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Firewall

main Name
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Configuration

Key Value
provider security.user.provider.concrete.app_user_provider
context main
entry_point App\Security\KbinAuthenticator
user_checker App\Security\UserChecker
access_denied_handler (none)
access_denied_url (none)
authenticators 
[
  "two_factor"
  "remember_me"
  "App\Security\KbinAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\FacebookAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\GoogleAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\GithubAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\KeycloakAuthenticator"
]

Listeners

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Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\ChannelListener {#723
  -map: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\AccessMap {#722 …}
  -logger: Monolog\Logger {#783 …}
  -httpPort: 80
  -httpsPort: 443
}
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Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\ContextListener {#706
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  -sessionKey: "_security_main"
  -logger: Monolog\Logger {#783 …}
  -userProviders: Symfony\Component\DependencyInjection\Argument\RewindableGenerator {#705 …}
  -dispatcher: Symfony\Component\EventDispatcher\Debug\TraceableEventDispatcher {#747 …}
  -registered: false
  -trustResolver: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authentication\AuthenticationTrustResolver {#780 …}
  -sessionTrackerEnabler: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage::enableUsageTracking(): void {#703 …}
}
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Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\AuthenticatorManagerListener {#584
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}
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Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Http\Firewall\TwoFactorAccessListener {#582
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  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
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}
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Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\AccessListener {#579
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  -accessDecisionManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\TraceableAccessDecisionManager {#937 …}
  -map: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\AccessMap {#722 …}
}
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Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\LogoutListener {#786
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -options: [
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    "csrf_token_id" => "logout"
    "logout_path" => "app_logout"
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  -csrfTokenManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Csrf\CsrfTokenManager {#1015 …}
  -eventDispatcher: Symfony\Component\EventDispatcher\Debug\TraceableEventDispatcher {#747 …}
}
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Access Decision

affirmative Strategy
# Voter class
1 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\AuthenticatedVoter"
2 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
3 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
4 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\ExpressionVoter"
5 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
6 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
7 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
8 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
9 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
10 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
11 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
12 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
13 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
14 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"

Access decision log

# Result Attributes Object
1 DENIED ROLE_USER 
null
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
2 DENIED moderate 
Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1403
  +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#2563 …}
  +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1733 …}
  +image: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#2593 …}
  +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#2615 …}
  +slug: "Get-to-work-crackheads"
  +title: "Get to work, crackheads"
  +url: "https://lemmy.today/pictrs/image/a34d3253-2dfc-440c-aa63-2d492c4d1b66.jpeg"
  +body: """
    EDIT: since apparently a bunch of people woke up with the wrong foot this morning or forgot to check the group they’re in:\n
    \n
    This is a joke. Do not steal or vandalize speed enforcement cameras (or anything else for that matter). That’s against the law and you will likely get arrested.\n
    \n
    If you’re addicted to crack or any other drugs, please seek professional help.
    """
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  +isOc: false
  +hasEmbed: true
  +commentCount: 230
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    date: 2024-09-21 03:56:29.0 +02:00
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  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2609 …}
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  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2639 …}
  +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2656 …}
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      +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1403 …2}
      +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1733 …}
      +image: null
      +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#2092 …}
      +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#2023 …}
      +body: """
        > You have one bus going in one direction to a school passing another bus going to another school.\n
        \n
        In front of a school? Are your schools connected directly to highways or something?\n
        \n
        > Have you only lived in an inner city where roads can be one way because they alternate in direction every block?\n
        \n
        We don’t have blocks.
        """
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        date: 2024-01-18 22:45:35.0 +01:00
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        "@Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world"
        "@barsoap@lemm.ee"
      ]
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        date: 2024-01-18 22:45:35.0 +01:00
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    }
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      +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1403 …2}
      +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1733 …}
      +image: null
      +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#2271 …}
      +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#2023 …}
      +body: """
        > Cost. That separate road means buying land from someone and turning it into road. Do they have one way roads for rural schools in Germany? Because I looked at a few Grundschule in Bavaria on Google maps and didn’t see any.\n
        \n
        You’ll have a hard time finding a village with *literally* one single road. Certainly not one 1-2k which is the size that gets the school for the surrounding ones.\n
        \n
        > It is cheaper and more convenient to have a speed camera that is active only during school hours.\n
        \n
        And also completely ineffective at preventing anything.Heck at least use road bumps. Narrow the road only in spots so that two monster trucks if you please fit on comfortably side by side for 50-100m or such, but then it narrows down to half that for just 5m. While you’re at it build a crossing there, narrowing the roads at pedestrian crossing is standard practice in many places and it makes a hell a lot of sense. Yes, that slows down traffic because you might have to negotiate with oncoming traffic who goes first. Yes, that’s precisely the point.
        """
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        date: 2024-01-19 22:28:38.0 +01:00
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      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2263 …}
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        date: 2024-01-19 22:28:38.0 +01:00
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      +user: App\Entity\User {#259 …}
      +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1403 …2}
      +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1733 …}
      +image: null
      +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#2096 …}
      +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#2023 …}
      +body: """
        > Schools have more than one bus and they have to pass each other.\n
        \n
        No they don’t they can enter from the same side. You’re just looking for excuses. Also why do you need buses in the first place why aren’t the kids walking or biking.
        """
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      +favouriteCount: 3
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        "@byroon@lemmy.world"
        "@Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world"
      ]
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      +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2063 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2064 …}
      +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2088 …}
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      +ranking: 0
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      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1705610331 {#2082
        date: 2024-01-18 21:38:51.0 +01:00
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      +"title": 320302
    }
    8 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#2276
      +user: App\Entity\User {#259 …}
      +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1403 …2}
      +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1733 …}
      +image: null
      +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#2279 …}
      +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#2023 …}
      +body: """
        Why can’t you have one-way streets in a rural area? Fork off the main street on one end, merge on the other. Pedestrian and bicycle traffic can be bidirectional, cars can take a little detour they don’t use muscle energy.\n
        \n
        > > Wide enough for one pickup and no opposing traffic, but so narrow that two pickups are going to really have to negotiate to move around each other."\n
        \n
        How does that translate to "block the street for buses? If a street fits two pickups it fits two buses. They’ll have to negotiate to move around each other so if you have many (which, as I told you a lot, you shouldn’t) you should consider a one-way road, or maybe a meeting bay, or a wider street with choke points, or whatever. But it’s not “blocking the road for buses”.
        """
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      +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#2023 …}
      +body: "[Relevant Not Just Bikes](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bglWCuCMSWc)."
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    6 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#2013
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      +body: """
        Not an issue in Europe. Though granted the US would probably need to replace their fire trucks with sanely-sized ones. You also don’t need to haul a big-ass ladder in a low-density area what’s your plan use it to do a header into a suburban pool.\n
        \n
        Regarding response time absence of gridlock will be more important than the last hundred metres on a residential street, consider investing in public transportation, walkable cities, and generally everything that abolishes owning and using a car being mandatory.
        """
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        Things aren’t done differently, in principle, in villages. You were the one brining up blocks or did you mean “buildings surrounded by roads *and fields*”.\n
        \n
        [This is Wacken](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.0275469,9.3755654,169m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) (*the* Wacken), I zoomed you in on the primary school. There’s surrounding villages without school so it’s bound to get bus traffic. Note how it’s on a street that’s wide enough for that, but not the main road, the one with all the through-traffic. Can you understand that principle. (Main Roads, actually, Wacken has two, Schenefelder and Hauptstraße).\n
        \n
        > I only took issue with the ridiculous idea that the roads in front of rural US schools could be made safer by making them impassable by busses.\n
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        Noone ever said that? At least I didn’t.
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        > A block in the US doesn’t mean a square either.\n
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        Yes, great, blame a non native speaker for expressing himself incorrectly, correcting himself, and then quadruple down on it. I was thinking of unprioritised NY-style blocks you see all over the place in US cities, gridlock magnets. You know, places where people say “down the block” and generally measure distances in blocks.\n
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        > It is required that children do not cross two lane roads to be picked up by school buses. I don’t make the rules. I don’t have a solution to US car culture. But making roads unpassable by school buses isn’t an answer.\n
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        If you look back at that Hamburg link, at those streets internal to the superblock, you’ll notice that they *are* wide enough for buses to go through. There’s no regular bus lines through there (there’s two metro stations and plenty of bus stops surrounding it) but a school bus isn’t regular service, it doesn’t need to play by the same rules. You can make a pickup at one of those very spacious intersections. It’s not being done because there’s schools in walking distance and German kids can cross roads but it *could* be done. Would you, however, ever speed on those roads.
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        US suburbia has a higher density than the German countryside, having to travel 24km is nuts. That’d be defensible if you live in a tiny settlement 24km from a place with more than two dozen houses – I’m sure those exist in the US but suburbia isn’t that.\n
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        How many pupils were there at your school? My state has 106240 pupils in 393 primary schools, that’s an average of 270. Minimum size under ordinary circumstances is 80, the smallest is on Nordstrandischmoor: An island, 18 inhabitants, five families, one school, one teacher, two students, [here it is](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.5518864,8.8108853,16z?entry=ttu). That’s because we don’t do boarding in primary education so there’s a maximum tolerable commute time/distance, once those kids are old enough they’ll spend Monday through Friday on the mainland.\n
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        If your system insists that a school have at least 2k students or such then, yes, of course, walking to school will be an impossibility for most. Fix your school sizes and like 99% of students will be able to walk or bike, use buses or minivans or whatnot for the rest we do that too (not really possible in Nordstrandischmoor, thing doesn’t even have a ferry but a rail link that’s only usable when the tide is low).\n
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        And no it wasn’t my school it was my Kindergarten, which wasn’t, by a long shot, the closest to home it was the one my parents chose. I mentioned it to say that biking 3.5km is something a 4yold can do, physically, without any issue at all really.
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        > Roads are typically 2 lanes one in each direction. You already know this because you said a solution would be to remove the lane marker.\n
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        I’m someone else.\n
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        > So you have a road with an elementary school, and 2 miles further down is a middle school. Even without that you have buses passing each other during pickup because busses only pickup kids on one side of the street so you don’t have young kids crossing roads.\n
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        Lots of questions here: Why can’t kids walk 500m to the next bus stop? Why are streets so unsafe so that kids can’t cross them?\n
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        Why assume that there’s no larger road in between those smaller roads? Roads generally form a hierarchy, you have big ones feeding into middle ones feeding into small ones. Small ones should absolutely be safe to cross, also without explicit crossings, because they’re traffic calmed and don’t have much traffic in the first place. That’s where houses and schools are, where there’s no through-traffic because even if they aren’t cul de sacs who would drive through a road you can’t drive fast on when there’s a mid-level road that you could take.\n
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        > What do you call a section of inner city bounded on all sides by a road in your country?\n
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        Straßenblock. Let me put it differently: We don’t have grids and nothing is regular. [This is about as grid-y as it gets](https://www.google.com/maps/@53.5753832,9.9851206,1090m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) and if you zoom in you’ll notice that the interior streets have no lane markers and some even are cobbled. Those connect to a street ( south, Hallerstraße) with bike lanes (don’t need those on smaller streets because there’s not enough traffic to warrant them), which connects to a four-lane (plus bus lane) street, Grindelalle, west. The intersection looks a bit crazy but it’s actually safe for pedestrians and you should’ve learned how to cross streets safely and what traffic lights are in Kindergarten. You’ve also been there with your parents (going shopping or whatever) a lot of times, nothing scary really. That kind of density and housing is probably illegal to build where you are (it’s illegal pretty much everywhere in the US and Canada).\n
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        And mind you Hamburg is awful when it comes to urbanism, way too car-centric. Not because of lack of public transport but because politicians are unwilling to kill off car traffic and the whole city is full of rich fucks with too much disposable income.
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        Let me look at a map… maybe 1km max anywhere in my 30k town to the next primary school and that’s when you’re living on the very very edge of town. Should be under 500m for most pupils.\n
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        If you’re living in a rural area, outside of the next village (which will have a school), which is an absolute exception as things tend to cluster into villages in rural areas, it might be 5km. Not really an issue with a bike, I biked what 3.5km to Kindergarten (together with my mom). If you have less density than that you probably should have boarding schools.\n
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        For secondary education, if you’re living in a village you’ll probably have to take the bus to the nearest city. Regular public transport though the schedule will take school times into account. Yes, kids can walk 500m to the nearest station.\n
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        Bonus: All that school density – smaller but way more of them – means that there’s obvious places to hold elections as there’s a municipality-owned place in Sunday stroll distance to pretty much everywhere. The only downside are the ludicrously low tables.
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  +slug: "Get-to-work-crackheads"
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    EDIT: since apparently a bunch of people woke up with the wrong foot this morning or forgot to check the group they’re in:\n
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    This is a joke. Do not steal or vandalize speed enforcement cameras (or anything else for that matter). That’s against the law and you will likely get arrested.\n
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    If you’re addicted to crack or any other drugs, please seek professional help.
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        > You have one bus going in one direction to a school passing another bus going to another school.\n
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        In front of a school? Are your schools connected directly to highways or something?\n
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        > Have you only lived in an inner city where roads can be one way because they alternate in direction every block?\n
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        We don’t have blocks.
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        > Cost. That separate road means buying land from someone and turning it into road. Do they have one way roads for rural schools in Germany? Because I looked at a few Grundschule in Bavaria on Google maps and didn’t see any.\n
        \n
        You’ll have a hard time finding a village with *literally* one single road. Certainly not one 1-2k which is the size that gets the school for the surrounding ones.\n
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        > It is cheaper and more convenient to have a speed camera that is active only during school hours.\n
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        And also completely ineffective at preventing anything.Heck at least use road bumps. Narrow the road only in spots so that two monster trucks if you please fit on comfortably side by side for 50-100m or such, but then it narrows down to half that for just 5m. While you’re at it build a crossing there, narrowing the roads at pedestrian crossing is standard practice in many places and it makes a hell a lot of sense. Yes, that slows down traffic because you might have to negotiate with oncoming traffic who goes first. Yes, that’s precisely the point.
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        > Schools have more than one bus and they have to pass each other.\n
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        No they don’t they can enter from the same side. You’re just looking for excuses. Also why do you need buses in the first place why aren’t the kids walking or biking.
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        Why can’t you have one-way streets in a rural area? Fork off the main street on one end, merge on the other. Pedestrian and bicycle traffic can be bidirectional, cars can take a little detour they don’t use muscle energy.\n
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        > > Wide enough for one pickup and no opposing traffic, but so narrow that two pickups are going to really have to negotiate to move around each other."\n
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        How does that translate to "block the street for buses? If a street fits two pickups it fits two buses. They’ll have to negotiate to move around each other so if you have many (which, as I told you a lot, you shouldn’t) you should consider a one-way road, or maybe a meeting bay, or a wider street with choke points, or whatever. But it’s not “blocking the road for buses”.
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      +body: "[Relevant Not Just Bikes](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bglWCuCMSWc)."
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        Not an issue in Europe. Though granted the US would probably need to replace their fire trucks with sanely-sized ones. You also don’t need to haul a big-ass ladder in a low-density area what’s your plan use it to do a header into a suburban pool.\n
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        Regarding response time absence of gridlock will be more important than the last hundred metres on a residential street, consider investing in public transportation, walkable cities, and generally everything that abolishes owning and using a car being mandatory.
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        Things aren’t done differently, in principle, in villages. You were the one brining up blocks or did you mean “buildings surrounded by roads *and fields*”.\n
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        [This is Wacken](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.0275469,9.3755654,169m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) (*the* Wacken), I zoomed you in on the primary school. There’s surrounding villages without school so it’s bound to get bus traffic. Note how it’s on a street that’s wide enough for that, but not the main road, the one with all the through-traffic. Can you understand that principle. (Main Roads, actually, Wacken has two, Schenefelder and Hauptstraße).\n
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        > I only took issue with the ridiculous idea that the roads in front of rural US schools could be made safer by making them impassable by busses.\n
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        Noone ever said that? At least I didn’t.
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        > A block in the US doesn’t mean a square either.\n
        \n
        Yes, great, blame a non native speaker for expressing himself incorrectly, correcting himself, and then quadruple down on it. I was thinking of unprioritised NY-style blocks you see all over the place in US cities, gridlock magnets. You know, places where people say “down the block” and generally measure distances in blocks.\n
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        > It is required that children do not cross two lane roads to be picked up by school buses. I don’t make the rules. I don’t have a solution to US car culture. But making roads unpassable by school buses isn’t an answer.\n
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        If you look back at that Hamburg link, at those streets internal to the superblock, you’ll notice that they *are* wide enough for buses to go through. There’s no regular bus lines through there (there’s two metro stations and plenty of bus stops surrounding it) but a school bus isn’t regular service, it doesn’t need to play by the same rules. You can make a pickup at one of those very spacious intersections. It’s not being done because there’s schools in walking distance and German kids can cross roads but it *could* be done. Would you, however, ever speed on those roads.
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        US suburbia has a higher density than the German countryside, having to travel 24km is nuts. That’d be defensible if you live in a tiny settlement 24km from a place with more than two dozen houses – I’m sure those exist in the US but suburbia isn’t that.\n
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        How many pupils were there at your school? My state has 106240 pupils in 393 primary schools, that’s an average of 270. Minimum size under ordinary circumstances is 80, the smallest is on Nordstrandischmoor: An island, 18 inhabitants, five families, one school, one teacher, two students, [here it is](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.5518864,8.8108853,16z?entry=ttu). That’s because we don’t do boarding in primary education so there’s a maximum tolerable commute time/distance, once those kids are old enough they’ll spend Monday through Friday on the mainland.\n
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        If your system insists that a school have at least 2k students or such then, yes, of course, walking to school will be an impossibility for most. Fix your school sizes and like 99% of students will be able to walk or bike, use buses or minivans or whatnot for the rest we do that too (not really possible in Nordstrandischmoor, thing doesn’t even have a ferry but a rail link that’s only usable when the tide is low).\n
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        And no it wasn’t my school it was my Kindergarten, which wasn’t, by a long shot, the closest to home it was the one my parents chose. I mentioned it to say that biking 3.5km is something a 4yold can do, physically, without any issue at all really.
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        > Roads are typically 2 lanes one in each direction. You already know this because you said a solution would be to remove the lane marker.\n
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        I’m someone else.\n
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        > So you have a road with an elementary school, and 2 miles further down is a middle school. Even without that you have buses passing each other during pickup because busses only pickup kids on one side of the street so you don’t have young kids crossing roads.\n
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        Lots of questions here: Why can’t kids walk 500m to the next bus stop? Why are streets so unsafe so that kids can’t cross them?\n
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        Why assume that there’s no larger road in between those smaller roads? Roads generally form a hierarchy, you have big ones feeding into middle ones feeding into small ones. Small ones should absolutely be safe to cross, also without explicit crossings, because they’re traffic calmed and don’t have much traffic in the first place. That’s where houses and schools are, where there’s no through-traffic because even if they aren’t cul de sacs who would drive through a road you can’t drive fast on when there’s a mid-level road that you could take.\n
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        > What do you call a section of inner city bounded on all sides by a road in your country?\n
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        Straßenblock. Let me put it differently: We don’t have grids and nothing is regular. [This is about as grid-y as it gets](https://www.google.com/maps/@53.5753832,9.9851206,1090m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) and if you zoom in you’ll notice that the interior streets have no lane markers and some even are cobbled. Those connect to a street ( south, Hallerstraße) with bike lanes (don’t need those on smaller streets because there’s not enough traffic to warrant them), which connects to a four-lane (plus bus lane) street, Grindelalle, west. The intersection looks a bit crazy but it’s actually safe for pedestrians and you should’ve learned how to cross streets safely and what traffic lights are in Kindergarten. You’ve also been there with your parents (going shopping or whatever) a lot of times, nothing scary really. That kind of density and housing is probably illegal to build where you are (it’s illegal pretty much everywhere in the US and Canada).\n
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        And mind you Hamburg is awful when it comes to urbanism, way too car-centric. Not because of lack of public transport but because politicians are unwilling to kill off car traffic and the whole city is full of rich fucks with too much disposable income.
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        Let me look at a map… maybe 1km max anywhere in my 30k town to the next primary school and that’s when you’re living on the very very edge of town. Should be under 500m for most pupils.\n
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        If you’re living in a rural area, outside of the next village (which will have a school), which is an absolute exception as things tend to cluster into villages in rural areas, it might be 5km. Not really an issue with a bike, I biked what 3.5km to Kindergarten (together with my mom). If you have less density than that you probably should have boarding schools.\n
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        For secondary education, if you’re living in a village you’ll probably have to take the bus to the nearest city. Regular public transport though the schedule will take school times into account. Yes, kids can walk 500m to the nearest station.\n
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        Bonus: All that school density – smaller but way more of them – means that there’s obvious places to hold elections as there’s a municipality-owned place in Sunday stroll distance to pretty much everywhere. The only downside are the ludicrously low tables.
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    EDIT: since apparently a bunch of people woke up with the wrong foot this morning or forgot to check the group they’re in:\n
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    If you’re addicted to crack or any other drugs, please seek professional help.
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        > You have one bus going in one direction to a school passing another bus going to another school.\n
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        In front of a school? Are your schools connected directly to highways or something?\n
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        We don’t have blocks.
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        > Cost. That separate road means buying land from someone and turning it into road. Do they have one way roads for rural schools in Germany? Because I looked at a few Grundschule in Bavaria on Google maps and didn’t see any.\n
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        You’ll have a hard time finding a village with *literally* one single road. Certainly not one 1-2k which is the size that gets the school for the surrounding ones.\n
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        And also completely ineffective at preventing anything.Heck at least use road bumps. Narrow the road only in spots so that two monster trucks if you please fit on comfortably side by side for 50-100m or such, but then it narrows down to half that for just 5m. While you’re at it build a crossing there, narrowing the roads at pedestrian crossing is standard practice in many places and it makes a hell a lot of sense. Yes, that slows down traffic because you might have to negotiate with oncoming traffic who goes first. Yes, that’s precisely the point.
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        > Schools have more than one bus and they have to pass each other.\n
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        No they don’t they can enter from the same side. You’re just looking for excuses. Also why do you need buses in the first place why aren’t the kids walking or biking.
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        Why can’t you have one-way streets in a rural area? Fork off the main street on one end, merge on the other. Pedestrian and bicycle traffic can be bidirectional, cars can take a little detour they don’t use muscle energy.\n
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        > > Wide enough for one pickup and no opposing traffic, but so narrow that two pickups are going to really have to negotiate to move around each other."\n
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        How does that translate to "block the street for buses? If a street fits two pickups it fits two buses. They’ll have to negotiate to move around each other so if you have many (which, as I told you a lot, you shouldn’t) you should consider a one-way road, or maybe a meeting bay, or a wider street with choke points, or whatever. But it’s not “blocking the road for buses”.
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      +body: "[Relevant Not Just Bikes](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bglWCuCMSWc)."
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        Not an issue in Europe. Though granted the US would probably need to replace their fire trucks with sanely-sized ones. You also don’t need to haul a big-ass ladder in a low-density area what’s your plan use it to do a header into a suburban pool.\n
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        Regarding response time absence of gridlock will be more important than the last hundred metres on a residential street, consider investing in public transportation, walkable cities, and generally everything that abolishes owning and using a car being mandatory.
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        Things aren’t done differently, in principle, in villages. You were the one brining up blocks or did you mean “buildings surrounded by roads *and fields*”.\n
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        [This is Wacken](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.0275469,9.3755654,169m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) (*the* Wacken), I zoomed you in on the primary school. There’s surrounding villages without school so it’s bound to get bus traffic. Note how it’s on a street that’s wide enough for that, but not the main road, the one with all the through-traffic. Can you understand that principle. (Main Roads, actually, Wacken has two, Schenefelder and Hauptstraße).\n
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        Noone ever said that? At least I didn’t.
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        > A block in the US doesn’t mean a square either.\n
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        Yes, great, blame a non native speaker for expressing himself incorrectly, correcting himself, and then quadruple down on it. I was thinking of unprioritised NY-style blocks you see all over the place in US cities, gridlock magnets. You know, places where people say “down the block” and generally measure distances in blocks.\n
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        If you look back at that Hamburg link, at those streets internal to the superblock, you’ll notice that they *are* wide enough for buses to go through. There’s no regular bus lines through there (there’s two metro stations and plenty of bus stops surrounding it) but a school bus isn’t regular service, it doesn’t need to play by the same rules. You can make a pickup at one of those very spacious intersections. It’s not being done because there’s schools in walking distance and German kids can cross roads but it *could* be done. Would you, however, ever speed on those roads.
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        US suburbia has a higher density than the German countryside, having to travel 24km is nuts. That’d be defensible if you live in a tiny settlement 24km from a place with more than two dozen houses – I’m sure those exist in the US but suburbia isn’t that.\n
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        How many pupils were there at your school? My state has 106240 pupils in 393 primary schools, that’s an average of 270. Minimum size under ordinary circumstances is 80, the smallest is on Nordstrandischmoor: An island, 18 inhabitants, five families, one school, one teacher, two students, [here it is](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.5518864,8.8108853,16z?entry=ttu). That’s because we don’t do boarding in primary education so there’s a maximum tolerable commute time/distance, once those kids are old enough they’ll spend Monday through Friday on the mainland.\n
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        If your system insists that a school have at least 2k students or such then, yes, of course, walking to school will be an impossibility for most. Fix your school sizes and like 99% of students will be able to walk or bike, use buses or minivans or whatnot for the rest we do that too (not really possible in Nordstrandischmoor, thing doesn’t even have a ferry but a rail link that’s only usable when the tide is low).\n
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        And no it wasn’t my school it was my Kindergarten, which wasn’t, by a long shot, the closest to home it was the one my parents chose. I mentioned it to say that biking 3.5km is something a 4yold can do, physically, without any issue at all really.
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        > Roads are typically 2 lanes one in each direction. You already know this because you said a solution would be to remove the lane marker.\n
        \n
        I’m someone else.\n
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        > So you have a road with an elementary school, and 2 miles further down is a middle school. Even without that you have buses passing each other during pickup because busses only pickup kids on one side of the street so you don’t have young kids crossing roads.\n
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        Lots of questions here: Why can’t kids walk 500m to the next bus stop? Why are streets so unsafe so that kids can’t cross them?\n
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        Why assume that there’s no larger road in between those smaller roads? Roads generally form a hierarchy, you have big ones feeding into middle ones feeding into small ones. Small ones should absolutely be safe to cross, also without explicit crossings, because they’re traffic calmed and don’t have much traffic in the first place. That’s where houses and schools are, where there’s no through-traffic because even if they aren’t cul de sacs who would drive through a road you can’t drive fast on when there’s a mid-level road that you could take.\n
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        > What do you call a section of inner city bounded on all sides by a road in your country?\n
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        Straßenblock. Let me put it differently: We don’t have grids and nothing is regular. [This is about as grid-y as it gets](https://www.google.com/maps/@53.5753832,9.9851206,1090m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) and if you zoom in you’ll notice that the interior streets have no lane markers and some even are cobbled. Those connect to a street ( south, Hallerstraße) with bike lanes (don’t need those on smaller streets because there’s not enough traffic to warrant them), which connects to a four-lane (plus bus lane) street, Grindelalle, west. The intersection looks a bit crazy but it’s actually safe for pedestrians and you should’ve learned how to cross streets safely and what traffic lights are in Kindergarten. You’ve also been there with your parents (going shopping or whatever) a lot of times, nothing scary really. That kind of density and housing is probably illegal to build where you are (it’s illegal pretty much everywhere in the US and Canada).\n
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        And mind you Hamburg is awful when it comes to urbanism, way too car-centric. Not because of lack of public transport but because politicians are unwilling to kill off car traffic and the whole city is full of rich fucks with too much disposable income.
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        Let me look at a map… maybe 1km max anywhere in my 30k town to the next primary school and that’s when you’re living on the very very edge of town. Should be under 500m for most pupils.\n
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        If you’re living in a rural area, outside of the next village (which will have a school), which is an absolute exception as things tend to cluster into villages in rural areas, it might be 5km. Not really an issue with a bike, I biked what 3.5km to Kindergarten (together with my mom). If you have less density than that you probably should have boarding schools.\n
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        For secondary education, if you’re living in a village you’ll probably have to take the bus to the nearest city. Regular public transport though the schedule will take school times into account. Yes, kids can walk 500m to the nearest station.\n
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        Bonus: All that school density – smaller but way more of them – means that there’s obvious places to hold elections as there’s a municipality-owned place in Sunday stroll distance to pretty much everywhere. The only downside are the ludicrously low tables.
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          > Cost. That separate road means buying land from someone and turning it into road. Do they have one way roads for rural schools in Germany? Because I looked at a few Grundschule in Bavaria on Google maps and didn’t see any.\n
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          You’ll have a hard time finding a village with *literally* one single road. Certainly not one 1-2k which is the size that gets the school for the surrounding ones.\n
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          > It is cheaper and more convenient to have a speed camera that is active only during school hours.\n
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          > Schools have more than one bus and they have to pass each other.\n
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          No they don’t they can enter from the same side. You’re just looking for excuses. Also why do you need buses in the first place why aren’t the kids walking or biking.
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          Why can’t you have one-way streets in a rural area? Fork off the main street on one end, merge on the other. Pedestrian and bicycle traffic can be bidirectional, cars can take a little detour they don’t use muscle energy.\n
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          > > Wide enough for one pickup and no opposing traffic, but so narrow that two pickups are going to really have to negotiate to move around each other."\n
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          How does that translate to "block the street for buses? If a street fits two pickups it fits two buses. They’ll have to negotiate to move around each other so if you have many (which, as I told you a lot, you shouldn’t) you should consider a one-way road, or maybe a meeting bay, or a wider street with choke points, or whatever. But it’s not “blocking the road for buses”.
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        +body: "[Relevant Not Just Bikes](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bglWCuCMSWc)."
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          Not an issue in Europe. Though granted the US would probably need to replace their fire trucks with sanely-sized ones. You also don’t need to haul a big-ass ladder in a low-density area what’s your plan use it to do a header into a suburban pool.\n
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          Regarding response time absence of gridlock will be more important than the last hundred metres on a residential street, consider investing in public transportation, walkable cities, and generally everything that abolishes owning and using a car being mandatory.
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          Things aren’t done differently, in principle, in villages. You were the one brining up blocks or did you mean “buildings surrounded by roads *and fields*”.\n
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          [This is Wacken](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.0275469,9.3755654,169m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) (*the* Wacken), I zoomed you in on the primary school. There’s surrounding villages without school so it’s bound to get bus traffic. Note how it’s on a street that’s wide enough for that, but not the main road, the one with all the through-traffic. Can you understand that principle. (Main Roads, actually, Wacken has two, Schenefelder and Hauptstraße).\n
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          > I only took issue with the ridiculous idea that the roads in front of rural US schools could be made safer by making them impassable by busses.\n
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          Noone ever said that? At least I didn’t.
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          > A block in the US doesn’t mean a square either.\n
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          Yes, great, blame a non native speaker for expressing himself incorrectly, correcting himself, and then quadruple down on it. I was thinking of unprioritised NY-style blocks you see all over the place in US cities, gridlock magnets. You know, places where people say “down the block” and generally measure distances in blocks.\n
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          > It is required that children do not cross two lane roads to be picked up by school buses. I don’t make the rules. I don’t have a solution to US car culture. But making roads unpassable by school buses isn’t an answer.\n
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          If you look back at that Hamburg link, at those streets internal to the superblock, you’ll notice that they *are* wide enough for buses to go through. There’s no regular bus lines through there (there’s two metro stations and plenty of bus stops surrounding it) but a school bus isn’t regular service, it doesn’t need to play by the same rules. You can make a pickup at one of those very spacious intersections. It’s not being done because there’s schools in walking distance and German kids can cross roads but it *could* be done. Would you, however, ever speed on those roads.
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          US suburbia has a higher density than the German countryside, having to travel 24km is nuts. That’d be defensible if you live in a tiny settlement 24km from a place with more than two dozen houses – I’m sure those exist in the US but suburbia isn’t that.\n
          \n
          How many pupils were there at your school? My state has 106240 pupils in 393 primary schools, that’s an average of 270. Minimum size under ordinary circumstances is 80, the smallest is on Nordstrandischmoor: An island, 18 inhabitants, five families, one school, one teacher, two students, [here it is](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.5518864,8.8108853,16z?entry=ttu). That’s because we don’t do boarding in primary education so there’s a maximum tolerable commute time/distance, once those kids are old enough they’ll spend Monday through Friday on the mainland.\n
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          If your system insists that a school have at least 2k students or such then, yes, of course, walking to school will be an impossibility for most. Fix your school sizes and like 99% of students will be able to walk or bike, use buses or minivans or whatnot for the rest we do that too (not really possible in Nordstrandischmoor, thing doesn’t even have a ferry but a rail link that’s only usable when the tide is low).\n
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          And no it wasn’t my school it was my Kindergarten, which wasn’t, by a long shot, the closest to home it was the one my parents chose. I mentioned it to say that biking 3.5km is something a 4yold can do, physically, without any issue at all really.
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          > Roads are typically 2 lanes one in each direction. You already know this because you said a solution would be to remove the lane marker.\n
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          I’m someone else.\n
          \n
          > So you have a road with an elementary school, and 2 miles further down is a middle school. Even without that you have buses passing each other during pickup because busses only pickup kids on one side of the street so you don’t have young kids crossing roads.\n
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          Lots of questions here: Why can’t kids walk 500m to the next bus stop? Why are streets so unsafe so that kids can’t cross them?\n
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          Why assume that there’s no larger road in between those smaller roads? Roads generally form a hierarchy, you have big ones feeding into middle ones feeding into small ones. Small ones should absolutely be safe to cross, also without explicit crossings, because they’re traffic calmed and don’t have much traffic in the first place. That’s where houses and schools are, where there’s no through-traffic because even if they aren’t cul de sacs who would drive through a road you can’t drive fast on when there’s a mid-level road that you could take.\n
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          > What do you call a section of inner city bounded on all sides by a road in your country?\n
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          Straßenblock. Let me put it differently: We don’t have grids and nothing is regular. [This is about as grid-y as it gets](https://www.google.com/maps/@53.5753832,9.9851206,1090m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) and if you zoom in you’ll notice that the interior streets have no lane markers and some even are cobbled. Those connect to a street ( south, Hallerstraße) with bike lanes (don’t need those on smaller streets because there’s not enough traffic to warrant them), which connects to a four-lane (plus bus lane) street, Grindelalle, west. The intersection looks a bit crazy but it’s actually safe for pedestrians and you should’ve learned how to cross streets safely and what traffic lights are in Kindergarten. You’ve also been there with your parents (going shopping or whatever) a lot of times, nothing scary really. That kind of density and housing is probably illegal to build where you are (it’s illegal pretty much everywhere in the US and Canada).\n
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          And mind you Hamburg is awful when it comes to urbanism, way too car-centric. Not because of lack of public transport but because politicians are unwilling to kill off car traffic and the whole city is full of rich fucks with too much disposable income.
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          Let me look at a map… maybe 1km max anywhere in my 30k town to the next primary school and that’s when you’re living on the very very edge of town. Should be under 500m for most pupils.\n
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          If you’re living in a rural area, outside of the next village (which will have a school), which is an absolute exception as things tend to cluster into villages in rural areas, it might be 5km. Not really an issue with a bike, I biked what 3.5km to Kindergarten (together with my mom). If you have less density than that you probably should have boarding schools.\n
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          For secondary education, if you’re living in a village you’ll probably have to take the bus to the nearest city. Regular public transport though the schedule will take school times into account. Yes, kids can walk 500m to the nearest station.\n
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          Bonus: All that school density – smaller but way more of them – means that there’s obvious places to hold elections as there’s a municipality-owned place in Sunday stroll distance to pretty much everywhere. The only downside are the ludicrously low tables.
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    > You have one bus going in one direction to a school passing another bus going to another school.\n
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    In front of a school? Are your schools connected directly to highways or something?\n
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    > Have you only lived in an inner city where roads can be one way because they alternate in direction every block?\n
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    We don’t have blocks.
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      EDIT: since apparently a bunch of people woke up with the wrong foot this morning or forgot to check the group they’re in:\n
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      If you’re addicted to crack or any other drugs, please seek professional help.
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          > Cost. That separate road means buying land from someone and turning it into road. Do they have one way roads for rural schools in Germany? Because I looked at a few Grundschule in Bavaria on Google maps and didn’t see any.\n
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          You’ll have a hard time finding a village with *literally* one single road. Certainly not one 1-2k which is the size that gets the school for the surrounding ones.\n
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          > It is cheaper and more convenient to have a speed camera that is active only during school hours.\n
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          And also completely ineffective at preventing anything.Heck at least use road bumps. Narrow the road only in spots so that two monster trucks if you please fit on comfortably side by side for 50-100m or such, but then it narrows down to half that for just 5m. While you’re at it build a crossing there, narrowing the roads at pedestrian crossing is standard practice in many places and it makes a hell a lot of sense. Yes, that slows down traffic because you might have to negotiate with oncoming traffic who goes first. Yes, that’s precisely the point.
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          > Schools have more than one bus and they have to pass each other.\n
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          No they don’t they can enter from the same side. You’re just looking for excuses. Also why do you need buses in the first place why aren’t the kids walking or biking.
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          Why can’t you have one-way streets in a rural area? Fork off the main street on one end, merge on the other. Pedestrian and bicycle traffic can be bidirectional, cars can take a little detour they don’t use muscle energy.\n
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          > > Wide enough for one pickup and no opposing traffic, but so narrow that two pickups are going to really have to negotiate to move around each other."\n
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          How does that translate to "block the street for buses? If a street fits two pickups it fits two buses. They’ll have to negotiate to move around each other so if you have many (which, as I told you a lot, you shouldn’t) you should consider a one-way road, or maybe a meeting bay, or a wider street with choke points, or whatever. But it’s not “blocking the road for buses”.
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        +body: "[Relevant Not Just Bikes](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bglWCuCMSWc)."
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          Not an issue in Europe. Though granted the US would probably need to replace their fire trucks with sanely-sized ones. You also don’t need to haul a big-ass ladder in a low-density area what’s your plan use it to do a header into a suburban pool.\n
          \n
          Regarding response time absence of gridlock will be more important than the last hundred metres on a residential street, consider investing in public transportation, walkable cities, and generally everything that abolishes owning and using a car being mandatory.
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          Things aren’t done differently, in principle, in villages. You were the one brining up blocks or did you mean “buildings surrounded by roads *and fields*”.\n
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          [This is Wacken](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.0275469,9.3755654,169m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) (*the* Wacken), I zoomed you in on the primary school. There’s surrounding villages without school so it’s bound to get bus traffic. Note how it’s on a street that’s wide enough for that, but not the main road, the one with all the through-traffic. Can you understand that principle. (Main Roads, actually, Wacken has two, Schenefelder and Hauptstraße).\n
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          > I only took issue with the ridiculous idea that the roads in front of rural US schools could be made safer by making them impassable by busses.\n
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          Noone ever said that? At least I didn’t.
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          > A block in the US doesn’t mean a square either.\n
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          Yes, great, blame a non native speaker for expressing himself incorrectly, correcting himself, and then quadruple down on it. I was thinking of unprioritised NY-style blocks you see all over the place in US cities, gridlock magnets. You know, places where people say “down the block” and generally measure distances in blocks.\n
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          > It is required that children do not cross two lane roads to be picked up by school buses. I don’t make the rules. I don’t have a solution to US car culture. But making roads unpassable by school buses isn’t an answer.\n
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          If you look back at that Hamburg link, at those streets internal to the superblock, you’ll notice that they *are* wide enough for buses to go through. There’s no regular bus lines through there (there’s two metro stations and plenty of bus stops surrounding it) but a school bus isn’t regular service, it doesn’t need to play by the same rules. You can make a pickup at one of those very spacious intersections. It’s not being done because there’s schools in walking distance and German kids can cross roads but it *could* be done. Would you, however, ever speed on those roads.
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          US suburbia has a higher density than the German countryside, having to travel 24km is nuts. That’d be defensible if you live in a tiny settlement 24km from a place with more than two dozen houses – I’m sure those exist in the US but suburbia isn’t that.\n
          \n
          How many pupils were there at your school? My state has 106240 pupils in 393 primary schools, that’s an average of 270. Minimum size under ordinary circumstances is 80, the smallest is on Nordstrandischmoor: An island, 18 inhabitants, five families, one school, one teacher, two students, [here it is](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.5518864,8.8108853,16z?entry=ttu). That’s because we don’t do boarding in primary education so there’s a maximum tolerable commute time/distance, once those kids are old enough they’ll spend Monday through Friday on the mainland.\n
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          If your system insists that a school have at least 2k students or such then, yes, of course, walking to school will be an impossibility for most. Fix your school sizes and like 99% of students will be able to walk or bike, use buses or minivans or whatnot for the rest we do that too (not really possible in Nordstrandischmoor, thing doesn’t even have a ferry but a rail link that’s only usable when the tide is low).\n
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          And no it wasn’t my school it was my Kindergarten, which wasn’t, by a long shot, the closest to home it was the one my parents chose. I mentioned it to say that biking 3.5km is something a 4yold can do, physically, without any issue at all really.
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          > Roads are typically 2 lanes one in each direction. You already know this because you said a solution would be to remove the lane marker.\n
          \n
          I’m someone else.\n
          \n
          > So you have a road with an elementary school, and 2 miles further down is a middle school. Even without that you have buses passing each other during pickup because busses only pickup kids on one side of the street so you don’t have young kids crossing roads.\n
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          Lots of questions here: Why can’t kids walk 500m to the next bus stop? Why are streets so unsafe so that kids can’t cross them?\n
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          Why assume that there’s no larger road in between those smaller roads? Roads generally form a hierarchy, you have big ones feeding into middle ones feeding into small ones. Small ones should absolutely be safe to cross, also without explicit crossings, because they’re traffic calmed and don’t have much traffic in the first place. That’s where houses and schools are, where there’s no through-traffic because even if they aren’t cul de sacs who would drive through a road you can’t drive fast on when there’s a mid-level road that you could take.\n
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          > What do you call a section of inner city bounded on all sides by a road in your country?\n
          \n
          Straßenblock. Let me put it differently: We don’t have grids and nothing is regular. [This is about as grid-y as it gets](https://www.google.com/maps/@53.5753832,9.9851206,1090m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) and if you zoom in you’ll notice that the interior streets have no lane markers and some even are cobbled. Those connect to a street ( south, Hallerstraße) with bike lanes (don’t need those on smaller streets because there’s not enough traffic to warrant them), which connects to a four-lane (plus bus lane) street, Grindelalle, west. The intersection looks a bit crazy but it’s actually safe for pedestrians and you should’ve learned how to cross streets safely and what traffic lights are in Kindergarten. You’ve also been there with your parents (going shopping or whatever) a lot of times, nothing scary really. That kind of density and housing is probably illegal to build where you are (it’s illegal pretty much everywhere in the US and Canada).\n
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          And mind you Hamburg is awful when it comes to urbanism, way too car-centric. Not because of lack of public transport but because politicians are unwilling to kill off car traffic and the whole city is full of rich fucks with too much disposable income.
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          Let me look at a map… maybe 1km max anywhere in my 30k town to the next primary school and that’s when you’re living on the very very edge of town. Should be under 500m for most pupils.\n
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          If you’re living in a rural area, outside of the next village (which will have a school), which is an absolute exception as things tend to cluster into villages in rural areas, it might be 5km. Not really an issue with a bike, I biked what 3.5km to Kindergarten (together with my mom). If you have less density than that you probably should have boarding schools.\n
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    > You have one bus going in one direction to a school passing another bus going to another school.\n
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    In front of a school? Are your schools connected directly to highways or something?\n
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    > Have you only lived in an inner city where roads can be one way because they alternate in direction every block?\n
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    We don’t have blocks.
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      If you’re addicted to crack or any other drugs, please seek professional help.
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          > Cost. That separate road means buying land from someone and turning it into road. Do they have one way roads for rural schools in Germany? Because I looked at a few Grundschule in Bavaria on Google maps and didn’t see any.\n
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          You’ll have a hard time finding a village with *literally* one single road. Certainly not one 1-2k which is the size that gets the school for the surrounding ones.\n
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          > It is cheaper and more convenient to have a speed camera that is active only during school hours.\n
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          And also completely ineffective at preventing anything.Heck at least use road bumps. Narrow the road only in spots so that two monster trucks if you please fit on comfortably side by side for 50-100m or such, but then it narrows down to half that for just 5m. While you’re at it build a crossing there, narrowing the roads at pedestrian crossing is standard practice in many places and it makes a hell a lot of sense. Yes, that slows down traffic because you might have to negotiate with oncoming traffic who goes first. Yes, that’s precisely the point.
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          > Schools have more than one bus and they have to pass each other.\n
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          No they don’t they can enter from the same side. You’re just looking for excuses. Also why do you need buses in the first place why aren’t the kids walking or biking.
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          Why can’t you have one-way streets in a rural area? Fork off the main street on one end, merge on the other. Pedestrian and bicycle traffic can be bidirectional, cars can take a little detour they don’t use muscle energy.\n
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          > > Wide enough for one pickup and no opposing traffic, but so narrow that two pickups are going to really have to negotiate to move around each other."\n
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          How does that translate to "block the street for buses? If a street fits two pickups it fits two buses. They’ll have to negotiate to move around each other so if you have many (which, as I told you a lot, you shouldn’t) you should consider a one-way road, or maybe a meeting bay, or a wider street with choke points, or whatever. But it’s not “blocking the road for buses”.
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          Not an issue in Europe. Though granted the US would probably need to replace their fire trucks with sanely-sized ones. You also don’t need to haul a big-ass ladder in a low-density area what’s your plan use it to do a header into a suburban pool.\n
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          Regarding response time absence of gridlock will be more important than the last hundred metres on a residential street, consider investing in public transportation, walkable cities, and generally everything that abolishes owning and using a car being mandatory.
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          Things aren’t done differently, in principle, in villages. You were the one brining up blocks or did you mean “buildings surrounded by roads *and fields*”.\n
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          [This is Wacken](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.0275469,9.3755654,169m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) (*the* Wacken), I zoomed you in on the primary school. There’s surrounding villages without school so it’s bound to get bus traffic. Note how it’s on a street that’s wide enough for that, but not the main road, the one with all the through-traffic. Can you understand that principle. (Main Roads, actually, Wacken has two, Schenefelder and Hauptstraße).\n
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          > I only took issue with the ridiculous idea that the roads in front of rural US schools could be made safer by making them impassable by busses.\n
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          Noone ever said that? At least I didn’t.
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          > A block in the US doesn’t mean a square either.\n
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          Yes, great, blame a non native speaker for expressing himself incorrectly, correcting himself, and then quadruple down on it. I was thinking of unprioritised NY-style blocks you see all over the place in US cities, gridlock magnets. You know, places where people say “down the block” and generally measure distances in blocks.\n
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          > It is required that children do not cross two lane roads to be picked up by school buses. I don’t make the rules. I don’t have a solution to US car culture. But making roads unpassable by school buses isn’t an answer.\n
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          If you look back at that Hamburg link, at those streets internal to the superblock, you’ll notice that they *are* wide enough for buses to go through. There’s no regular bus lines through there (there’s two metro stations and plenty of bus stops surrounding it) but a school bus isn’t regular service, it doesn’t need to play by the same rules. You can make a pickup at one of those very spacious intersections. It’s not being done because there’s schools in walking distance and German kids can cross roads but it *could* be done. Would you, however, ever speed on those roads.
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          US suburbia has a higher density than the German countryside, having to travel 24km is nuts. That’d be defensible if you live in a tiny settlement 24km from a place with more than two dozen houses – I’m sure those exist in the US but suburbia isn’t that.\n
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          How many pupils were there at your school? My state has 106240 pupils in 393 primary schools, that’s an average of 270. Minimum size under ordinary circumstances is 80, the smallest is on Nordstrandischmoor: An island, 18 inhabitants, five families, one school, one teacher, two students, [here it is](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.5518864,8.8108853,16z?entry=ttu). That’s because we don’t do boarding in primary education so there’s a maximum tolerable commute time/distance, once those kids are old enough they’ll spend Monday through Friday on the mainland.\n
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          If your system insists that a school have at least 2k students or such then, yes, of course, walking to school will be an impossibility for most. Fix your school sizes and like 99% of students will be able to walk or bike, use buses or minivans or whatnot for the rest we do that too (not really possible in Nordstrandischmoor, thing doesn’t even have a ferry but a rail link that’s only usable when the tide is low).\n
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          And no it wasn’t my school it was my Kindergarten, which wasn’t, by a long shot, the closest to home it was the one my parents chose. I mentioned it to say that biking 3.5km is something a 4yold can do, physically, without any issue at all really.
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          > Roads are typically 2 lanes one in each direction. You already know this because you said a solution would be to remove the lane marker.\n
          \n
          I’m someone else.\n
          \n
          > So you have a road with an elementary school, and 2 miles further down is a middle school. Even without that you have buses passing each other during pickup because busses only pickup kids on one side of the street so you don’t have young kids crossing roads.\n
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          Lots of questions here: Why can’t kids walk 500m to the next bus stop? Why are streets so unsafe so that kids can’t cross them?\n
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          Why assume that there’s no larger road in between those smaller roads? Roads generally form a hierarchy, you have big ones feeding into middle ones feeding into small ones. Small ones should absolutely be safe to cross, also without explicit crossings, because they’re traffic calmed and don’t have much traffic in the first place. That’s where houses and schools are, where there’s no through-traffic because even if they aren’t cul de sacs who would drive through a road you can’t drive fast on when there’s a mid-level road that you could take.\n
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          > What do you call a section of inner city bounded on all sides by a road in your country?\n
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          Straßenblock. Let me put it differently: We don’t have grids and nothing is regular. [This is about as grid-y as it gets](https://www.google.com/maps/@53.5753832,9.9851206,1090m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) and if you zoom in you’ll notice that the interior streets have no lane markers and some even are cobbled. Those connect to a street ( south, Hallerstraße) with bike lanes (don’t need those on smaller streets because there’s not enough traffic to warrant them), which connects to a four-lane (plus bus lane) street, Grindelalle, west. The intersection looks a bit crazy but it’s actually safe for pedestrians and you should’ve learned how to cross streets safely and what traffic lights are in Kindergarten. You’ve also been there with your parents (going shopping or whatever) a lot of times, nothing scary really. That kind of density and housing is probably illegal to build where you are (it’s illegal pretty much everywhere in the US and Canada).\n
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          And mind you Hamburg is awful when it comes to urbanism, way too car-centric. Not because of lack of public transport but because politicians are unwilling to kill off car traffic and the whole city is full of rich fucks with too much disposable income.
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          Let me look at a map… maybe 1km max anywhere in my 30k town to the next primary school and that’s when you’re living on the very very edge of town. Should be under 500m for most pupils.\n
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          If you’re living in a rural area, outside of the next village (which will have a school), which is an absolute exception as things tend to cluster into villages in rural areas, it might be 5km. Not really an issue with a bike, I biked what 3.5km to Kindergarten (together with my mom). If you have less density than that you probably should have boarding schools.\n
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          For secondary education, if you’re living in a village you’ll probably have to take the bus to the nearest city. Regular public transport though the schedule will take school times into account. Yes, kids can walk 500m to the nearest station.\n
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          Bonus: All that school density – smaller but way more of them – means that there’s obvious places to hold elections as there’s a municipality-owned place in Sunday stroll distance to pretty much everywhere. The only downside are the ludicrously low tables.
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    > You have one bus going in one direction to a school passing another bus going to another school.\n
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    In front of a school? Are your schools connected directly to highways or something?\n
    \n
    > Have you only lived in an inner city where roads can be one way because they alternate in direction every block?\n
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    We don’t have blocks.
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      EDIT: since apparently a bunch of people woke up with the wrong foot this morning or forgot to check the group they’re in:\n
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      This is a joke. Do not steal or vandalize speed enforcement cameras (or anything else for that matter). That’s against the law and you will likely get arrested.\n
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      If you’re addicted to crack or any other drugs, please seek professional help.
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          > You have one bus going in one direction to a school passing another bus going to another school.\n
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          In front of a school? Are your schools connected directly to highways or something?\n
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          > Have you only lived in an inner city where roads can be one way because they alternate in direction every block?\n
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          We don’t have blocks.
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          > Schools have more than one bus and they have to pass each other.\n
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          No they don’t they can enter from the same side. You’re just looking for excuses. Also why do you need buses in the first place why aren’t the kids walking or biking.
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          Why can’t you have one-way streets in a rural area? Fork off the main street on one end, merge on the other. Pedestrian and bicycle traffic can be bidirectional, cars can take a little detour they don’t use muscle energy.\n
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          How does that translate to "block the street for buses? If a street fits two pickups it fits two buses. They’ll have to negotiate to move around each other so if you have many (which, as I told you a lot, you shouldn’t) you should consider a one-way road, or maybe a meeting bay, or a wider street with choke points, or whatever. But it’s not “blocking the road for buses”.
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          Not an issue in Europe. Though granted the US would probably need to replace their fire trucks with sanely-sized ones. You also don’t need to haul a big-ass ladder in a low-density area what’s your plan use it to do a header into a suburban pool.\n
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          Regarding response time absence of gridlock will be more important than the last hundred metres on a residential street, consider investing in public transportation, walkable cities, and generally everything that abolishes owning and using a car being mandatory.
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          Things aren’t done differently, in principle, in villages. You were the one brining up blocks or did you mean “buildings surrounded by roads *and fields*”.\n
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          [This is Wacken](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.0275469,9.3755654,169m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) (*the* Wacken), I zoomed you in on the primary school. There’s surrounding villages without school so it’s bound to get bus traffic. Note how it’s on a street that’s wide enough for that, but not the main road, the one with all the through-traffic. Can you understand that principle. (Main Roads, actually, Wacken has two, Schenefelder and Hauptstraße).\n
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          > I only took issue with the ridiculous idea that the roads in front of rural US schools could be made safer by making them impassable by busses.\n
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          Noone ever said that? At least I didn’t.
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          > A block in the US doesn’t mean a square either.\n
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          Yes, great, blame a non native speaker for expressing himself incorrectly, correcting himself, and then quadruple down on it. I was thinking of unprioritised NY-style blocks you see all over the place in US cities, gridlock magnets. You know, places where people say “down the block” and generally measure distances in blocks.\n
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          > It is required that children do not cross two lane roads to be picked up by school buses. I don’t make the rules. I don’t have a solution to US car culture. But making roads unpassable by school buses isn’t an answer.\n
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          If you look back at that Hamburg link, at those streets internal to the superblock, you’ll notice that they *are* wide enough for buses to go through. There’s no regular bus lines through there (there’s two metro stations and plenty of bus stops surrounding it) but a school bus isn’t regular service, it doesn’t need to play by the same rules. You can make a pickup at one of those very spacious intersections. It’s not being done because there’s schools in walking distance and German kids can cross roads but it *could* be done. Would you, however, ever speed on those roads.
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          US suburbia has a higher density than the German countryside, having to travel 24km is nuts. That’d be defensible if you live in a tiny settlement 24km from a place with more than two dozen houses – I’m sure those exist in the US but suburbia isn’t that.\n
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          How many pupils were there at your school? My state has 106240 pupils in 393 primary schools, that’s an average of 270. Minimum size under ordinary circumstances is 80, the smallest is on Nordstrandischmoor: An island, 18 inhabitants, five families, one school, one teacher, two students, [here it is](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.5518864,8.8108853,16z?entry=ttu). That’s because we don’t do boarding in primary education so there’s a maximum tolerable commute time/distance, once those kids are old enough they’ll spend Monday through Friday on the mainland.\n
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          If your system insists that a school have at least 2k students or such then, yes, of course, walking to school will be an impossibility for most. Fix your school sizes and like 99% of students will be able to walk or bike, use buses or minivans or whatnot for the rest we do that too (not really possible in Nordstrandischmoor, thing doesn’t even have a ferry but a rail link that’s only usable when the tide is low).\n
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          And no it wasn’t my school it was my Kindergarten, which wasn’t, by a long shot, the closest to home it was the one my parents chose. I mentioned it to say that biking 3.5km is something a 4yold can do, physically, without any issue at all really.
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          > Roads are typically 2 lanes one in each direction. You already know this because you said a solution would be to remove the lane marker.\n
          \n
          I’m someone else.\n
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          > So you have a road with an elementary school, and 2 miles further down is a middle school. Even without that you have buses passing each other during pickup because busses only pickup kids on one side of the street so you don’t have young kids crossing roads.\n
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          Lots of questions here: Why can’t kids walk 500m to the next bus stop? Why are streets so unsafe so that kids can’t cross them?\n
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          Why assume that there’s no larger road in between those smaller roads? Roads generally form a hierarchy, you have big ones feeding into middle ones feeding into small ones. Small ones should absolutely be safe to cross, also without explicit crossings, because they’re traffic calmed and don’t have much traffic in the first place. That’s where houses and schools are, where there’s no through-traffic because even if they aren’t cul de sacs who would drive through a road you can’t drive fast on when there’s a mid-level road that you could take.\n
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          > What do you call a section of inner city bounded on all sides by a road in your country?\n
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          Straßenblock. Let me put it differently: We don’t have grids and nothing is regular. [This is about as grid-y as it gets](https://www.google.com/maps/@53.5753832,9.9851206,1090m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) and if you zoom in you’ll notice that the interior streets have no lane markers and some even are cobbled. Those connect to a street ( south, Hallerstraße) with bike lanes (don’t need those on smaller streets because there’s not enough traffic to warrant them), which connects to a four-lane (plus bus lane) street, Grindelalle, west. The intersection looks a bit crazy but it’s actually safe for pedestrians and you should’ve learned how to cross streets safely and what traffic lights are in Kindergarten. You’ve also been there with your parents (going shopping or whatever) a lot of times, nothing scary really. That kind of density and housing is probably illegal to build where you are (it’s illegal pretty much everywhere in the US and Canada).\n
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          And mind you Hamburg is awful when it comes to urbanism, way too car-centric. Not because of lack of public transport but because politicians are unwilling to kill off car traffic and the whole city is full of rich fucks with too much disposable income.
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          Let me look at a map… maybe 1km max anywhere in my 30k town to the next primary school and that’s when you’re living on the very very edge of town. Should be under 500m for most pupils.\n
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          If you’re living in a rural area, outside of the next village (which will have a school), which is an absolute exception as things tend to cluster into villages in rural areas, it might be 5km. Not really an issue with a bike, I biked what 3.5km to Kindergarten (together with my mom). If you have less density than that you probably should have boarding schools.\n
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          For secondary education, if you’re living in a village you’ll probably have to take the bus to the nearest city. Regular public transport though the schedule will take school times into account. Yes, kids can walk 500m to the nearest station.\n
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          Bonus: All that school density – smaller but way more of them – means that there’s obvious places to hold elections as there’s a municipality-owned place in Sunday stroll distance to pretty much everywhere. The only downside are the ludicrously low tables.
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    > Cost. That separate road means buying land from someone and turning it into road. Do they have one way roads for rural schools in Germany? Because I looked at a few Grundschule in Bavaria on Google maps and didn’t see any.\n
    \n
    You’ll have a hard time finding a village with *literally* one single road. Certainly not one 1-2k which is the size that gets the school for the surrounding ones.\n
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    > It is cheaper and more convenient to have a speed camera that is active only during school hours.\n
    \n
    And also completely ineffective at preventing anything.Heck at least use road bumps. Narrow the road only in spots so that two monster trucks if you please fit on comfortably side by side for 50-100m or such, but then it narrows down to half that for just 5m. While you’re at it build a crossing there, narrowing the roads at pedestrian crossing is standard practice in many places and it makes a hell a lot of sense. Yes, that slows down traffic because you might have to negotiate with oncoming traffic who goes first. Yes, that’s precisely the point.
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      EDIT: since apparently a bunch of people woke up with the wrong foot this morning or forgot to check the group they’re in:\n
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      This is a joke. Do not steal or vandalize speed enforcement cameras (or anything else for that matter). That’s against the law and you will likely get arrested.\n
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      If you’re addicted to crack or any other drugs, please seek professional help.
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          > You have one bus going in one direction to a school passing another bus going to another school.\n
          \n
          In front of a school? Are your schools connected directly to highways or something?\n
          \n
          > Have you only lived in an inner city where roads can be one way because they alternate in direction every block?\n
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          We don’t have blocks.
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          > Schools have more than one bus and they have to pass each other.\n
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          No they don’t they can enter from the same side. You’re just looking for excuses. Also why do you need buses in the first place why aren’t the kids walking or biking.
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          Why can’t you have one-way streets in a rural area? Fork off the main street on one end, merge on the other. Pedestrian and bicycle traffic can be bidirectional, cars can take a little detour they don’t use muscle energy.\n
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          How does that translate to "block the street for buses? If a street fits two pickups it fits two buses. They’ll have to negotiate to move around each other so if you have many (which, as I told you a lot, you shouldn’t) you should consider a one-way road, or maybe a meeting bay, or a wider street with choke points, or whatever. But it’s not “blocking the road for buses”.
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        +body: "[Relevant Not Just Bikes](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bglWCuCMSWc)."
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          Not an issue in Europe. Though granted the US would probably need to replace their fire trucks with sanely-sized ones. You also don’t need to haul a big-ass ladder in a low-density area what’s your plan use it to do a header into a suburban pool.\n
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          Regarding response time absence of gridlock will be more important than the last hundred metres on a residential street, consider investing in public transportation, walkable cities, and generally everything that abolishes owning and using a car being mandatory.
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          Things aren’t done differently, in principle, in villages. You were the one brining up blocks or did you mean “buildings surrounded by roads *and fields*”.\n
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          [This is Wacken](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.0275469,9.3755654,169m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) (*the* Wacken), I zoomed you in on the primary school. There’s surrounding villages without school so it’s bound to get bus traffic. Note how it’s on a street that’s wide enough for that, but not the main road, the one with all the through-traffic. Can you understand that principle. (Main Roads, actually, Wacken has two, Schenefelder and Hauptstraße).\n
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          > I only took issue with the ridiculous idea that the roads in front of rural US schools could be made safer by making them impassable by busses.\n
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          Noone ever said that? At least I didn’t.
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          > A block in the US doesn’t mean a square either.\n
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          Yes, great, blame a non native speaker for expressing himself incorrectly, correcting himself, and then quadruple down on it. I was thinking of unprioritised NY-style blocks you see all over the place in US cities, gridlock magnets. You know, places where people say “down the block” and generally measure distances in blocks.\n
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          > It is required that children do not cross two lane roads to be picked up by school buses. I don’t make the rules. I don’t have a solution to US car culture. But making roads unpassable by school buses isn’t an answer.\n
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          If you look back at that Hamburg link, at those streets internal to the superblock, you’ll notice that they *are* wide enough for buses to go through. There’s no regular bus lines through there (there’s two metro stations and plenty of bus stops surrounding it) but a school bus isn’t regular service, it doesn’t need to play by the same rules. You can make a pickup at one of those very spacious intersections. It’s not being done because there’s schools in walking distance and German kids can cross roads but it *could* be done. Would you, however, ever speed on those roads.
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          US suburbia has a higher density than the German countryside, having to travel 24km is nuts. That’d be defensible if you live in a tiny settlement 24km from a place with more than two dozen houses – I’m sure those exist in the US but suburbia isn’t that.\n
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          How many pupils were there at your school? My state has 106240 pupils in 393 primary schools, that’s an average of 270. Minimum size under ordinary circumstances is 80, the smallest is on Nordstrandischmoor: An island, 18 inhabitants, five families, one school, one teacher, two students, [here it is](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.5518864,8.8108853,16z?entry=ttu). That’s because we don’t do boarding in primary education so there’s a maximum tolerable commute time/distance, once those kids are old enough they’ll spend Monday through Friday on the mainland.\n
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          If your system insists that a school have at least 2k students or such then, yes, of course, walking to school will be an impossibility for most. Fix your school sizes and like 99% of students will be able to walk or bike, use buses or minivans or whatnot for the rest we do that too (not really possible in Nordstrandischmoor, thing doesn’t even have a ferry but a rail link that’s only usable when the tide is low).\n
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          And no it wasn’t my school it was my Kindergarten, which wasn’t, by a long shot, the closest to home it was the one my parents chose. I mentioned it to say that biking 3.5km is something a 4yold can do, physically, without any issue at all really.
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          > Roads are typically 2 lanes one in each direction. You already know this because you said a solution would be to remove the lane marker.\n
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          I’m someone else.\n
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          > So you have a road with an elementary school, and 2 miles further down is a middle school. Even without that you have buses passing each other during pickup because busses only pickup kids on one side of the street so you don’t have young kids crossing roads.\n
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          Lots of questions here: Why can’t kids walk 500m to the next bus stop? Why are streets so unsafe so that kids can’t cross them?\n
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          Why assume that there’s no larger road in between those smaller roads? Roads generally form a hierarchy, you have big ones feeding into middle ones feeding into small ones. Small ones should absolutely be safe to cross, also without explicit crossings, because they’re traffic calmed and don’t have much traffic in the first place. That’s where houses and schools are, where there’s no through-traffic because even if they aren’t cul de sacs who would drive through a road you can’t drive fast on when there’s a mid-level road that you could take.\n
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          > What do you call a section of inner city bounded on all sides by a road in your country?\n
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          Straßenblock. Let me put it differently: We don’t have grids and nothing is regular. [This is about as grid-y as it gets](https://www.google.com/maps/@53.5753832,9.9851206,1090m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) and if you zoom in you’ll notice that the interior streets have no lane markers and some even are cobbled. Those connect to a street ( south, Hallerstraße) with bike lanes (don’t need those on smaller streets because there’s not enough traffic to warrant them), which connects to a four-lane (plus bus lane) street, Grindelalle, west. The intersection looks a bit crazy but it’s actually safe for pedestrians and you should’ve learned how to cross streets safely and what traffic lights are in Kindergarten. You’ve also been there with your parents (going shopping or whatever) a lot of times, nothing scary really. That kind of density and housing is probably illegal to build where you are (it’s illegal pretty much everywhere in the US and Canada).\n
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          And mind you Hamburg is awful when it comes to urbanism, way too car-centric. Not because of lack of public transport but because politicians are unwilling to kill off car traffic and the whole city is full of rich fucks with too much disposable income.
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          Let me look at a map… maybe 1km max anywhere in my 30k town to the next primary school and that’s when you’re living on the very very edge of town. Should be under 500m for most pupils.\n
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          If you’re living in a rural area, outside of the next village (which will have a school), which is an absolute exception as things tend to cluster into villages in rural areas, it might be 5km. Not really an issue with a bike, I biked what 3.5km to Kindergarten (together with my mom). If you have less density than that you probably should have boarding schools.\n
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          For secondary education, if you’re living in a village you’ll probably have to take the bus to the nearest city. Regular public transport though the schedule will take school times into account. Yes, kids can walk 500m to the nearest station.\n
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          Bonus: All that school density – smaller but way more of them – means that there’s obvious places to hold elections as there’s a municipality-owned place in Sunday stroll distance to pretty much everywhere. The only downside are the ludicrously low tables.
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    > Cost. That separate road means buying land from someone and turning it into road. Do they have one way roads for rural schools in Germany? Because I looked at a few Grundschule in Bavaria on Google maps and didn’t see any.\n
    \n
    You’ll have a hard time finding a village with *literally* one single road. Certainly not one 1-2k which is the size that gets the school for the surrounding ones.\n
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    > It is cheaper and more convenient to have a speed camera that is active only during school hours.\n
    \n
    And also completely ineffective at preventing anything.Heck at least use road bumps. Narrow the road only in spots so that two monster trucks if you please fit on comfortably side by side for 50-100m or such, but then it narrows down to half that for just 5m. While you’re at it build a crossing there, narrowing the roads at pedestrian crossing is standard practice in many places and it makes a hell a lot of sense. Yes, that slows down traffic because you might have to negotiate with oncoming traffic who goes first. Yes, that’s precisely the point.
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      EDIT: since apparently a bunch of people woke up with the wrong foot this morning or forgot to check the group they’re in:\n
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      If you’re addicted to crack or any other drugs, please seek professional help.
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          > You have one bus going in one direction to a school passing another bus going to another school.\n
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          In front of a school? Are your schools connected directly to highways or something?\n
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          > Have you only lived in an inner city where roads can be one way because they alternate in direction every block?\n
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          We don’t have blocks.
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          > Schools have more than one bus and they have to pass each other.\n
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          No they don’t they can enter from the same side. You’re just looking for excuses. Also why do you need buses in the first place why aren’t the kids walking or biking.
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          Why can’t you have one-way streets in a rural area? Fork off the main street on one end, merge on the other. Pedestrian and bicycle traffic can be bidirectional, cars can take a little detour they don’t use muscle energy.\n
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          How does that translate to "block the street for buses? If a street fits two pickups it fits two buses. They’ll have to negotiate to move around each other so if you have many (which, as I told you a lot, you shouldn’t) you should consider a one-way road, or maybe a meeting bay, or a wider street with choke points, or whatever. But it’s not “blocking the road for buses”.
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        +body: "[Relevant Not Just Bikes](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bglWCuCMSWc)."
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          Not an issue in Europe. Though granted the US would probably need to replace their fire trucks with sanely-sized ones. You also don’t need to haul a big-ass ladder in a low-density area what’s your plan use it to do a header into a suburban pool.\n
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          Regarding response time absence of gridlock will be more important than the last hundred metres on a residential street, consider investing in public transportation, walkable cities, and generally everything that abolishes owning and using a car being mandatory.
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          Things aren’t done differently, in principle, in villages. You were the one brining up blocks or did you mean “buildings surrounded by roads *and fields*”.\n
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          [This is Wacken](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.0275469,9.3755654,169m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) (*the* Wacken), I zoomed you in on the primary school. There’s surrounding villages without school so it’s bound to get bus traffic. Note how it’s on a street that’s wide enough for that, but not the main road, the one with all the through-traffic. Can you understand that principle. (Main Roads, actually, Wacken has two, Schenefelder and Hauptstraße).\n
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          Noone ever said that? At least I didn’t.
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          > A block in the US doesn’t mean a square either.\n
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          Yes, great, blame a non native speaker for expressing himself incorrectly, correcting himself, and then quadruple down on it. I was thinking of unprioritised NY-style blocks you see all over the place in US cities, gridlock magnets. You know, places where people say “down the block” and generally measure distances in blocks.\n
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          > It is required that children do not cross two lane roads to be picked up by school buses. I don’t make the rules. I don’t have a solution to US car culture. But making roads unpassable by school buses isn’t an answer.\n
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          If you look back at that Hamburg link, at those streets internal to the superblock, you’ll notice that they *are* wide enough for buses to go through. There’s no regular bus lines through there (there’s two metro stations and plenty of bus stops surrounding it) but a school bus isn’t regular service, it doesn’t need to play by the same rules. You can make a pickup at one of those very spacious intersections. It’s not being done because there’s schools in walking distance and German kids can cross roads but it *could* be done. Would you, however, ever speed on those roads.
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          US suburbia has a higher density than the German countryside, having to travel 24km is nuts. That’d be defensible if you live in a tiny settlement 24km from a place with more than two dozen houses – I’m sure those exist in the US but suburbia isn’t that.\n
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          How many pupils were there at your school? My state has 106240 pupils in 393 primary schools, that’s an average of 270. Minimum size under ordinary circumstances is 80, the smallest is on Nordstrandischmoor: An island, 18 inhabitants, five families, one school, one teacher, two students, [here it is](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.5518864,8.8108853,16z?entry=ttu). That’s because we don’t do boarding in primary education so there’s a maximum tolerable commute time/distance, once those kids are old enough they’ll spend Monday through Friday on the mainland.\n
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          If your system insists that a school have at least 2k students or such then, yes, of course, walking to school will be an impossibility for most. Fix your school sizes and like 99% of students will be able to walk or bike, use buses or minivans or whatnot for the rest we do that too (not really possible in Nordstrandischmoor, thing doesn’t even have a ferry but a rail link that’s only usable when the tide is low).\n
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          And no it wasn’t my school it was my Kindergarten, which wasn’t, by a long shot, the closest to home it was the one my parents chose. I mentioned it to say that biking 3.5km is something a 4yold can do, physically, without any issue at all really.
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          > Roads are typically 2 lanes one in each direction. You already know this because you said a solution would be to remove the lane marker.\n
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          I’m someone else.\n
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          > So you have a road with an elementary school, and 2 miles further down is a middle school. Even without that you have buses passing each other during pickup because busses only pickup kids on one side of the street so you don’t have young kids crossing roads.\n
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          Lots of questions here: Why can’t kids walk 500m to the next bus stop? Why are streets so unsafe so that kids can’t cross them?\n
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          Why assume that there’s no larger road in between those smaller roads? Roads generally form a hierarchy, you have big ones feeding into middle ones feeding into small ones. Small ones should absolutely be safe to cross, also without explicit crossings, because they’re traffic calmed and don’t have much traffic in the first place. That’s where houses and schools are, where there’s no through-traffic because even if they aren’t cul de sacs who would drive through a road you can’t drive fast on when there’s a mid-level road that you could take.\n
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          > What do you call a section of inner city bounded on all sides by a road in your country?\n
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          Straßenblock. Let me put it differently: We don’t have grids and nothing is regular. [This is about as grid-y as it gets](https://www.google.com/maps/@53.5753832,9.9851206,1090m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) and if you zoom in you’ll notice that the interior streets have no lane markers and some even are cobbled. Those connect to a street ( south, Hallerstraße) with bike lanes (don’t need those on smaller streets because there’s not enough traffic to warrant them), which connects to a four-lane (plus bus lane) street, Grindelalle, west. The intersection looks a bit crazy but it’s actually safe for pedestrians and you should’ve learned how to cross streets safely and what traffic lights are in Kindergarten. You’ve also been there with your parents (going shopping or whatever) a lot of times, nothing scary really. That kind of density and housing is probably illegal to build where you are (it’s illegal pretty much everywhere in the US and Canada).\n
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          And mind you Hamburg is awful when it comes to urbanism, way too car-centric. Not because of lack of public transport but because politicians are unwilling to kill off car traffic and the whole city is full of rich fucks with too much disposable income.
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          Let me look at a map… maybe 1km max anywhere in my 30k town to the next primary school and that’s when you’re living on the very very edge of town. Should be under 500m for most pupils.\n
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          If you’re living in a rural area, outside of the next village (which will have a school), which is an absolute exception as things tend to cluster into villages in rural areas, it might be 5km. Not really an issue with a bike, I biked what 3.5km to Kindergarten (together with my mom). If you have less density than that you probably should have boarding schools.\n
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          For secondary education, if you’re living in a village you’ll probably have to take the bus to the nearest city. Regular public transport though the schedule will take school times into account. Yes, kids can walk 500m to the nearest station.\n
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          Bonus: All that school density – smaller but way more of them – means that there’s obvious places to hold elections as there’s a municipality-owned place in Sunday stroll distance to pretty much everywhere. The only downside are the ludicrously low tables.
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    > Cost. That separate road means buying land from someone and turning it into road. Do they have one way roads for rural schools in Germany? Because I looked at a few Grundschule in Bavaria on Google maps and didn’t see any.\n
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    You’ll have a hard time finding a village with *literally* one single road. Certainly not one 1-2k which is the size that gets the school for the surrounding ones.\n
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    > It is cheaper and more convenient to have a speed camera that is active only during school hours.\n
    \n
    And also completely ineffective at preventing anything.Heck at least use road bumps. Narrow the road only in spots so that two monster trucks if you please fit on comfortably side by side for 50-100m or such, but then it narrows down to half that for just 5m. While you’re at it build a crossing there, narrowing the roads at pedestrian crossing is standard practice in many places and it makes a hell a lot of sense. Yes, that slows down traffic because you might have to negotiate with oncoming traffic who goes first. Yes, that’s precisely the point.
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          > You have one bus going in one direction to a school passing another bus going to another school.\n
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          In front of a school? Are your schools connected directly to highways or something?\n
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          > Have you only lived in an inner city where roads can be one way because they alternate in direction every block?\n
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          We don’t have blocks.
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          > Cost. That separate road means buying land from someone and turning it into road. Do they have one way roads for rural schools in Germany? Because I looked at a few Grundschule in Bavaria on Google maps and didn’t see any.\n
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          You’ll have a hard time finding a village with *literally* one single road. Certainly not one 1-2k which is the size that gets the school for the surrounding ones.\n
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          Why can’t you have one-way streets in a rural area? Fork off the main street on one end, merge on the other. Pedestrian and bicycle traffic can be bidirectional, cars can take a little detour they don’t use muscle energy.\n
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        +body: "[Relevant Not Just Bikes](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bglWCuCMSWc)."
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          Not an issue in Europe. Though granted the US would probably need to replace their fire trucks with sanely-sized ones. You also don’t need to haul a big-ass ladder in a low-density area what’s your plan use it to do a header into a suburban pool.\n
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          Regarding response time absence of gridlock will be more important than the last hundred metres on a residential street, consider investing in public transportation, walkable cities, and generally everything that abolishes owning and using a car being mandatory.
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          Things aren’t done differently, in principle, in villages. You were the one brining up blocks or did you mean “buildings surrounded by roads *and fields*”.\n
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          [This is Wacken](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.0275469,9.3755654,169m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) (*the* Wacken), I zoomed you in on the primary school. There’s surrounding villages without school so it’s bound to get bus traffic. Note how it’s on a street that’s wide enough for that, but not the main road, the one with all the through-traffic. Can you understand that principle. (Main Roads, actually, Wacken has two, Schenefelder and Hauptstraße).\n
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          > I only took issue with the ridiculous idea that the roads in front of rural US schools could be made safer by making them impassable by busses.\n
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          Noone ever said that? At least I didn’t.
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          > A block in the US doesn’t mean a square either.\n
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          Yes, great, blame a non native speaker for expressing himself incorrectly, correcting himself, and then quadruple down on it. I was thinking of unprioritised NY-style blocks you see all over the place in US cities, gridlock magnets. You know, places where people say “down the block” and generally measure distances in blocks.\n
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          > It is required that children do not cross two lane roads to be picked up by school buses. I don’t make the rules. I don’t have a solution to US car culture. But making roads unpassable by school buses isn’t an answer.\n
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          If you look back at that Hamburg link, at those streets internal to the superblock, you’ll notice that they *are* wide enough for buses to go through. There’s no regular bus lines through there (there’s two metro stations and plenty of bus stops surrounding it) but a school bus isn’t regular service, it doesn’t need to play by the same rules. You can make a pickup at one of those very spacious intersections. It’s not being done because there’s schools in walking distance and German kids can cross roads but it *could* be done. Would you, however, ever speed on those roads.
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          US suburbia has a higher density than the German countryside, having to travel 24km is nuts. That’d be defensible if you live in a tiny settlement 24km from a place with more than two dozen houses – I’m sure those exist in the US but suburbia isn’t that.\n
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          How many pupils were there at your school? My state has 106240 pupils in 393 primary schools, that’s an average of 270. Minimum size under ordinary circumstances is 80, the smallest is on Nordstrandischmoor: An island, 18 inhabitants, five families, one school, one teacher, two students, [here it is](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.5518864,8.8108853,16z?entry=ttu). That’s because we don’t do boarding in primary education so there’s a maximum tolerable commute time/distance, once those kids are old enough they’ll spend Monday through Friday on the mainland.\n
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          If your system insists that a school have at least 2k students or such then, yes, of course, walking to school will be an impossibility for most. Fix your school sizes and like 99% of students will be able to walk or bike, use buses or minivans or whatnot for the rest we do that too (not really possible in Nordstrandischmoor, thing doesn’t even have a ferry but a rail link that’s only usable when the tide is low).\n
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          And no it wasn’t my school it was my Kindergarten, which wasn’t, by a long shot, the closest to home it was the one my parents chose. I mentioned it to say that biking 3.5km is something a 4yold can do, physically, without any issue at all really.
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          > Roads are typically 2 lanes one in each direction. You already know this because you said a solution would be to remove the lane marker.\n
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          I’m someone else.\n
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          > So you have a road with an elementary school, and 2 miles further down is a middle school. Even without that you have buses passing each other during pickup because busses only pickup kids on one side of the street so you don’t have young kids crossing roads.\n
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          Lots of questions here: Why can’t kids walk 500m to the next bus stop? Why are streets so unsafe so that kids can’t cross them?\n
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          Why assume that there’s no larger road in between those smaller roads? Roads generally form a hierarchy, you have big ones feeding into middle ones feeding into small ones. Small ones should absolutely be safe to cross, also without explicit crossings, because they’re traffic calmed and don’t have much traffic in the first place. That’s where houses and schools are, where there’s no through-traffic because even if they aren’t cul de sacs who would drive through a road you can’t drive fast on when there’s a mid-level road that you could take.\n
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          > What do you call a section of inner city bounded on all sides by a road in your country?\n
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          Straßenblock. Let me put it differently: We don’t have grids and nothing is regular. [This is about as grid-y as it gets](https://www.google.com/maps/@53.5753832,9.9851206,1090m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) and if you zoom in you’ll notice that the interior streets have no lane markers and some even are cobbled. Those connect to a street ( south, Hallerstraße) with bike lanes (don’t need those on smaller streets because there’s not enough traffic to warrant them), which connects to a four-lane (plus bus lane) street, Grindelalle, west. The intersection looks a bit crazy but it’s actually safe for pedestrians and you should’ve learned how to cross streets safely and what traffic lights are in Kindergarten. You’ve also been there with your parents (going shopping or whatever) a lot of times, nothing scary really. That kind of density and housing is probably illegal to build where you are (it’s illegal pretty much everywhere in the US and Canada).\n
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          And mind you Hamburg is awful when it comes to urbanism, way too car-centric. Not because of lack of public transport but because politicians are unwilling to kill off car traffic and the whole city is full of rich fucks with too much disposable income.
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          Let me look at a map… maybe 1km max anywhere in my 30k town to the next primary school and that’s when you’re living on the very very edge of town. Should be under 500m for most pupils.\n
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          If you’re living in a rural area, outside of the next village (which will have a school), which is an absolute exception as things tend to cluster into villages in rural areas, it might be 5km. Not really an issue with a bike, I biked what 3.5km to Kindergarten (together with my mom). If you have less density than that you probably should have boarding schools.\n
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          For secondary education, if you’re living in a village you’ll probably have to take the bus to the nearest city. Regular public transport though the schedule will take school times into account. Yes, kids can walk 500m to the nearest station.\n
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          Bonus: All that school density – smaller but way more of them – means that there’s obvious places to hold elections as there’s a municipality-owned place in Sunday stroll distance to pretty much everywhere. The only downside are the ludicrously low tables.
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    > Schools have more than one bus and they have to pass each other.\n
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    No they don’t they can enter from the same side. You’re just looking for excuses. Also why do you need buses in the first place why aren’t the kids walking or biking.
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      EDIT: since apparently a bunch of people woke up with the wrong foot this morning or forgot to check the group they’re in:\n
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      This is a joke. Do not steal or vandalize speed enforcement cameras (or anything else for that matter). That’s against the law and you will likely get arrested.\n
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      If you’re addicted to crack or any other drugs, please seek professional help.
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          > You have one bus going in one direction to a school passing another bus going to another school.\n
          \n
          In front of a school? Are your schools connected directly to highways or something?\n
          \n
          > Have you only lived in an inner city where roads can be one way because they alternate in direction every block?\n
          \n
          We don’t have blocks.
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          > Cost. That separate road means buying land from someone and turning it into road. Do they have one way roads for rural schools in Germany? Because I looked at a few Grundschule in Bavaria on Google maps and didn’t see any.\n
          \n
          You’ll have a hard time finding a village with *literally* one single road. Certainly not one 1-2k which is the size that gets the school for the surrounding ones.\n
          \n
          > It is cheaper and more convenient to have a speed camera that is active only during school hours.\n
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          And also completely ineffective at preventing anything.Heck at least use road bumps. Narrow the road only in spots so that two monster trucks if you please fit on comfortably side by side for 50-100m or such, but then it narrows down to half that for just 5m. While you’re at it build a crossing there, narrowing the roads at pedestrian crossing is standard practice in many places and it makes a hell a lot of sense. Yes, that slows down traffic because you might have to negotiate with oncoming traffic who goes first. Yes, that’s precisely the point.
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          Why can’t you have one-way streets in a rural area? Fork off the main street on one end, merge on the other. Pedestrian and bicycle traffic can be bidirectional, cars can take a little detour they don’t use muscle energy.\n
          \n
          > > Wide enough for one pickup and no opposing traffic, but so narrow that two pickups are going to really have to negotiate to move around each other."\n
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          How does that translate to "block the street for buses? If a street fits two pickups it fits two buses. They’ll have to negotiate to move around each other so if you have many (which, as I told you a lot, you shouldn’t) you should consider a one-way road, or maybe a meeting bay, or a wider street with choke points, or whatever. But it’s not “blocking the road for buses”.
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        +body: "[Relevant Not Just Bikes](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bglWCuCMSWc)."
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          Not an issue in Europe. Though granted the US would probably need to replace their fire trucks with sanely-sized ones. You also don’t need to haul a big-ass ladder in a low-density area what’s your plan use it to do a header into a suburban pool.\n
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          Regarding response time absence of gridlock will be more important than the last hundred metres on a residential street, consider investing in public transportation, walkable cities, and generally everything that abolishes owning and using a car being mandatory.
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          Things aren’t done differently, in principle, in villages. You were the one brining up blocks or did you mean “buildings surrounded by roads *and fields*”.\n
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          [This is Wacken](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.0275469,9.3755654,169m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) (*the* Wacken), I zoomed you in on the primary school. There’s surrounding villages without school so it’s bound to get bus traffic. Note how it’s on a street that’s wide enough for that, but not the main road, the one with all the through-traffic. Can you understand that principle. (Main Roads, actually, Wacken has two, Schenefelder and Hauptstraße).\n
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          > I only took issue with the ridiculous idea that the roads in front of rural US schools could be made safer by making them impassable by busses.\n
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          Noone ever said that? At least I didn’t.
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          > A block in the US doesn’t mean a square either.\n
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          Yes, great, blame a non native speaker for expressing himself incorrectly, correcting himself, and then quadruple down on it. I was thinking of unprioritised NY-style blocks you see all over the place in US cities, gridlock magnets. You know, places where people say “down the block” and generally measure distances in blocks.\n
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          > It is required that children do not cross two lane roads to be picked up by school buses. I don’t make the rules. I don’t have a solution to US car culture. But making roads unpassable by school buses isn’t an answer.\n
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          If you look back at that Hamburg link, at those streets internal to the superblock, you’ll notice that they *are* wide enough for buses to go through. There’s no regular bus lines through there (there’s two metro stations and plenty of bus stops surrounding it) but a school bus isn’t regular service, it doesn’t need to play by the same rules. You can make a pickup at one of those very spacious intersections. It’s not being done because there’s schools in walking distance and German kids can cross roads but it *could* be done. Would you, however, ever speed on those roads.
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          US suburbia has a higher density than the German countryside, having to travel 24km is nuts. That’d be defensible if you live in a tiny settlement 24km from a place with more than two dozen houses – I’m sure those exist in the US but suburbia isn’t that.\n
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          How many pupils were there at your school? My state has 106240 pupils in 393 primary schools, that’s an average of 270. Minimum size under ordinary circumstances is 80, the smallest is on Nordstrandischmoor: An island, 18 inhabitants, five families, one school, one teacher, two students, [here it is](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.5518864,8.8108853,16z?entry=ttu). That’s because we don’t do boarding in primary education so there’s a maximum tolerable commute time/distance, once those kids are old enough they’ll spend Monday through Friday on the mainland.\n
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          If your system insists that a school have at least 2k students or such then, yes, of course, walking to school will be an impossibility for most. Fix your school sizes and like 99% of students will be able to walk or bike, use buses or minivans or whatnot for the rest we do that too (not really possible in Nordstrandischmoor, thing doesn’t even have a ferry but a rail link that’s only usable when the tide is low).\n
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          And no it wasn’t my school it was my Kindergarten, which wasn’t, by a long shot, the closest to home it was the one my parents chose. I mentioned it to say that biking 3.5km is something a 4yold can do, physically, without any issue at all really.
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          > Roads are typically 2 lanes one in each direction. You already know this because you said a solution would be to remove the lane marker.\n
          \n
          I’m someone else.\n
          \n
          > So you have a road with an elementary school, and 2 miles further down is a middle school. Even without that you have buses passing each other during pickup because busses only pickup kids on one side of the street so you don’t have young kids crossing roads.\n
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          Lots of questions here: Why can’t kids walk 500m to the next bus stop? Why are streets so unsafe so that kids can’t cross them?\n
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          Why assume that there’s no larger road in between those smaller roads? Roads generally form a hierarchy, you have big ones feeding into middle ones feeding into small ones. Small ones should absolutely be safe to cross, also without explicit crossings, because they’re traffic calmed and don’t have much traffic in the first place. That’s where houses and schools are, where there’s no through-traffic because even if they aren’t cul de sacs who would drive through a road you can’t drive fast on when there’s a mid-level road that you could take.\n
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          > What do you call a section of inner city bounded on all sides by a road in your country?\n
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          Straßenblock. Let me put it differently: We don’t have grids and nothing is regular. [This is about as grid-y as it gets](https://www.google.com/maps/@53.5753832,9.9851206,1090m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) and if you zoom in you’ll notice that the interior streets have no lane markers and some even are cobbled. Those connect to a street ( south, Hallerstraße) with bike lanes (don’t need those on smaller streets because there’s not enough traffic to warrant them), which connects to a four-lane (plus bus lane) street, Grindelalle, west. The intersection looks a bit crazy but it’s actually safe for pedestrians and you should’ve learned how to cross streets safely and what traffic lights are in Kindergarten. You’ve also been there with your parents (going shopping or whatever) a lot of times, nothing scary really. That kind of density and housing is probably illegal to build where you are (it’s illegal pretty much everywhere in the US and Canada).\n
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          And mind you Hamburg is awful when it comes to urbanism, way too car-centric. Not because of lack of public transport but because politicians are unwilling to kill off car traffic and the whole city is full of rich fucks with too much disposable income.
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          Let me look at a map… maybe 1km max anywhere in my 30k town to the next primary school and that’s when you’re living on the very very edge of town. Should be under 500m for most pupils.\n
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          If you’re living in a rural area, outside of the next village (which will have a school), which is an absolute exception as things tend to cluster into villages in rural areas, it might be 5km. Not really an issue with a bike, I biked what 3.5km to Kindergarten (together with my mom). If you have less density than that you probably should have boarding schools.\n
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          For secondary education, if you’re living in a village you’ll probably have to take the bus to the nearest city. Regular public transport though the schedule will take school times into account. Yes, kids can walk 500m to the nearest station.\n
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          Bonus: All that school density – smaller but way more of them – means that there’s obvious places to hold elections as there’s a municipality-owned place in Sunday stroll distance to pretty much everywhere. The only downside are the ludicrously low tables.
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    No they don’t they can enter from the same side. You’re just looking for excuses. Also why do you need buses in the first place why aren’t the kids walking or biking.
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          > You have one bus going in one direction to a school passing another bus going to another school.\n
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          In front of a school? Are your schools connected directly to highways or something?\n
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          > Have you only lived in an inner city where roads can be one way because they alternate in direction every block?\n
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          We don’t have blocks.
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          > Cost. That separate road means buying land from someone and turning it into road. Do they have one way roads for rural schools in Germany? Because I looked at a few Grundschule in Bavaria on Google maps and didn’t see any.\n
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          You’ll have a hard time finding a village with *literally* one single road. Certainly not one 1-2k which is the size that gets the school for the surrounding ones.\n
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          > It is cheaper and more convenient to have a speed camera that is active only during school hours.\n
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          And also completely ineffective at preventing anything.Heck at least use road bumps. Narrow the road only in spots so that two monster trucks if you please fit on comfortably side by side for 50-100m or such, but then it narrows down to half that for just 5m. While you’re at it build a crossing there, narrowing the roads at pedestrian crossing is standard practice in many places and it makes a hell a lot of sense. Yes, that slows down traffic because you might have to negotiate with oncoming traffic who goes first. Yes, that’s precisely the point.
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          Why can’t you have one-way streets in a rural area? Fork off the main street on one end, merge on the other. Pedestrian and bicycle traffic can be bidirectional, cars can take a little detour they don’t use muscle energy.\n
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          > > Wide enough for one pickup and no opposing traffic, but so narrow that two pickups are going to really have to negotiate to move around each other."\n
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          How does that translate to "block the street for buses? If a street fits two pickups it fits two buses. They’ll have to negotiate to move around each other so if you have many (which, as I told you a lot, you shouldn’t) you should consider a one-way road, or maybe a meeting bay, or a wider street with choke points, or whatever. But it’s not “blocking the road for buses”.
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        +body: "[Relevant Not Just Bikes](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bglWCuCMSWc)."
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          Not an issue in Europe. Though granted the US would probably need to replace their fire trucks with sanely-sized ones. You also don’t need to haul a big-ass ladder in a low-density area what’s your plan use it to do a header into a suburban pool.\n
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          Regarding response time absence of gridlock will be more important than the last hundred metres on a residential street, consider investing in public transportation, walkable cities, and generally everything that abolishes owning and using a car being mandatory.
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          Things aren’t done differently, in principle, in villages. You were the one brining up blocks or did you mean “buildings surrounded by roads *and fields*”.\n
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          [This is Wacken](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.0275469,9.3755654,169m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) (*the* Wacken), I zoomed you in on the primary school. There’s surrounding villages without school so it’s bound to get bus traffic. Note how it’s on a street that’s wide enough for that, but not the main road, the one with all the through-traffic. Can you understand that principle. (Main Roads, actually, Wacken has two, Schenefelder and Hauptstraße).\n
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          > I only took issue with the ridiculous idea that the roads in front of rural US schools could be made safer by making them impassable by busses.\n
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          Noone ever said that? At least I didn’t.
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          > A block in the US doesn’t mean a square either.\n
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          Yes, great, blame a non native speaker for expressing himself incorrectly, correcting himself, and then quadruple down on it. I was thinking of unprioritised NY-style blocks you see all over the place in US cities, gridlock magnets. You know, places where people say “down the block” and generally measure distances in blocks.\n
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          > It is required that children do not cross two lane roads to be picked up by school buses. I don’t make the rules. I don’t have a solution to US car culture. But making roads unpassable by school buses isn’t an answer.\n
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          If you look back at that Hamburg link, at those streets internal to the superblock, you’ll notice that they *are* wide enough for buses to go through. There’s no regular bus lines through there (there’s two metro stations and plenty of bus stops surrounding it) but a school bus isn’t regular service, it doesn’t need to play by the same rules. You can make a pickup at one of those very spacious intersections. It’s not being done because there’s schools in walking distance and German kids can cross roads but it *could* be done. Would you, however, ever speed on those roads.
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          US suburbia has a higher density than the German countryside, having to travel 24km is nuts. That’d be defensible if you live in a tiny settlement 24km from a place with more than two dozen houses – I’m sure those exist in the US but suburbia isn’t that.\n
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          How many pupils were there at your school? My state has 106240 pupils in 393 primary schools, that’s an average of 270. Minimum size under ordinary circumstances is 80, the smallest is on Nordstrandischmoor: An island, 18 inhabitants, five families, one school, one teacher, two students, [here it is](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.5518864,8.8108853,16z?entry=ttu). That’s because we don’t do boarding in primary education so there’s a maximum tolerable commute time/distance, once those kids are old enough they’ll spend Monday through Friday on the mainland.\n
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          If your system insists that a school have at least 2k students or such then, yes, of course, walking to school will be an impossibility for most. Fix your school sizes and like 99% of students will be able to walk or bike, use buses or minivans or whatnot for the rest we do that too (not really possible in Nordstrandischmoor, thing doesn’t even have a ferry but a rail link that’s only usable when the tide is low).\n
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          And no it wasn’t my school it was my Kindergarten, which wasn’t, by a long shot, the closest to home it was the one my parents chose. I mentioned it to say that biking 3.5km is something a 4yold can do, physically, without any issue at all really.
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          > Roads are typically 2 lanes one in each direction. You already know this because you said a solution would be to remove the lane marker.\n
          \n
          I’m someone else.\n
          \n
          > So you have a road with an elementary school, and 2 miles further down is a middle school. Even without that you have buses passing each other during pickup because busses only pickup kids on one side of the street so you don’t have young kids crossing roads.\n
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          Lots of questions here: Why can’t kids walk 500m to the next bus stop? Why are streets so unsafe so that kids can’t cross them?\n
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          Why assume that there’s no larger road in between those smaller roads? Roads generally form a hierarchy, you have big ones feeding into middle ones feeding into small ones. Small ones should absolutely be safe to cross, also without explicit crossings, because they’re traffic calmed and don’t have much traffic in the first place. That’s where houses and schools are, where there’s no through-traffic because even if they aren’t cul de sacs who would drive through a road you can’t drive fast on when there’s a mid-level road that you could take.\n
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          > What do you call a section of inner city bounded on all sides by a road in your country?\n
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          Straßenblock. Let me put it differently: We don’t have grids and nothing is regular. [This is about as grid-y as it gets](https://www.google.com/maps/@53.5753832,9.9851206,1090m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) and if you zoom in you’ll notice that the interior streets have no lane markers and some even are cobbled. Those connect to a street ( south, Hallerstraße) with bike lanes (don’t need those on smaller streets because there’s not enough traffic to warrant them), which connects to a four-lane (plus bus lane) street, Grindelalle, west. The intersection looks a bit crazy but it’s actually safe for pedestrians and you should’ve learned how to cross streets safely and what traffic lights are in Kindergarten. You’ve also been there with your parents (going shopping or whatever) a lot of times, nothing scary really. That kind of density and housing is probably illegal to build where you are (it’s illegal pretty much everywhere in the US and Canada).\n
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          And mind you Hamburg is awful when it comes to urbanism, way too car-centric. Not because of lack of public transport but because politicians are unwilling to kill off car traffic and the whole city is full of rich fucks with too much disposable income.
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          Let me look at a map… maybe 1km max anywhere in my 30k town to the next primary school and that’s when you’re living on the very very edge of town. Should be under 500m for most pupils.\n
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          If you’re living in a rural area, outside of the next village (which will have a school), which is an absolute exception as things tend to cluster into villages in rural areas, it might be 5km. Not really an issue with a bike, I biked what 3.5km to Kindergarten (together with my mom). If you have less density than that you probably should have boarding schools.\n
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          For secondary education, if you’re living in a village you’ll probably have to take the bus to the nearest city. Regular public transport though the schedule will take school times into account. Yes, kids can walk 500m to the nearest station.\n
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          Bonus: All that school density – smaller but way more of them – means that there’s obvious places to hold elections as there’s a municipality-owned place in Sunday stroll distance to pretty much everywhere. The only downside are the ludicrously low tables.
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    No they don’t they can enter from the same side. You’re just looking for excuses. Also why do you need buses in the first place why aren’t the kids walking or biking.
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          > Cost. That separate road means buying land from someone and turning it into road. Do they have one way roads for rural schools in Germany? Because I looked at a few Grundschule in Bavaria on Google maps and didn’t see any.\n
          \n
          You’ll have a hard time finding a village with *literally* one single road. Certainly not one 1-2k which is the size that gets the school for the surrounding ones.\n
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          > It is cheaper and more convenient to have a speed camera that is active only during school hours.\n
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          And also completely ineffective at preventing anything.Heck at least use road bumps. Narrow the road only in spots so that two monster trucks if you please fit on comfortably side by side for 50-100m or such, but then it narrows down to half that for just 5m. While you’re at it build a crossing there, narrowing the roads at pedestrian crossing is standard practice in many places and it makes a hell a lot of sense. Yes, that slows down traffic because you might have to negotiate with oncoming traffic who goes first. Yes, that’s precisely the point.
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          > Schools have more than one bus and they have to pass each other.\n
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          No they don’t they can enter from the same side. You’re just looking for excuses. Also why do you need buses in the first place why aren’t the kids walking or biking.
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        +body: "[Relevant Not Just Bikes](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bglWCuCMSWc)."
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          Not an issue in Europe. Though granted the US would probably need to replace their fire trucks with sanely-sized ones. You also don’t need to haul a big-ass ladder in a low-density area what’s your plan use it to do a header into a suburban pool.\n
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          Regarding response time absence of gridlock will be more important than the last hundred metres on a residential street, consider investing in public transportation, walkable cities, and generally everything that abolishes owning and using a car being mandatory.
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          Things aren’t done differently, in principle, in villages. You were the one brining up blocks or did you mean “buildings surrounded by roads *and fields*”.\n
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          [This is Wacken](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.0275469,9.3755654,169m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) (*the* Wacken), I zoomed you in on the primary school. There’s surrounding villages without school so it’s bound to get bus traffic. Note how it’s on a street that’s wide enough for that, but not the main road, the one with all the through-traffic. Can you understand that principle. (Main Roads, actually, Wacken has two, Schenefelder and Hauptstraße).\n
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          > I only took issue with the ridiculous idea that the roads in front of rural US schools could be made safer by making them impassable by busses.\n
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          Noone ever said that? At least I didn’t.
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          > A block in the US doesn’t mean a square either.\n
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          Yes, great, blame a non native speaker for expressing himself incorrectly, correcting himself, and then quadruple down on it. I was thinking of unprioritised NY-style blocks you see all over the place in US cities, gridlock magnets. You know, places where people say “down the block” and generally measure distances in blocks.\n
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          > It is required that children do not cross two lane roads to be picked up by school buses. I don’t make the rules. I don’t have a solution to US car culture. But making roads unpassable by school buses isn’t an answer.\n
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          If you look back at that Hamburg link, at those streets internal to the superblock, you’ll notice that they *are* wide enough for buses to go through. There’s no regular bus lines through there (there’s two metro stations and plenty of bus stops surrounding it) but a school bus isn’t regular service, it doesn’t need to play by the same rules. You can make a pickup at one of those very spacious intersections. It’s not being done because there’s schools in walking distance and German kids can cross roads but it *could* be done. Would you, however, ever speed on those roads.
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          US suburbia has a higher density than the German countryside, having to travel 24km is nuts. That’d be defensible if you live in a tiny settlement 24km from a place with more than two dozen houses – I’m sure those exist in the US but suburbia isn’t that.\n
          \n
          How many pupils were there at your school? My state has 106240 pupils in 393 primary schools, that’s an average of 270. Minimum size under ordinary circumstances is 80, the smallest is on Nordstrandischmoor: An island, 18 inhabitants, five families, one school, one teacher, two students, [here it is](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.5518864,8.8108853,16z?entry=ttu). That’s because we don’t do boarding in primary education so there’s a maximum tolerable commute time/distance, once those kids are old enough they’ll spend Monday through Friday on the mainland.\n
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          If your system insists that a school have at least 2k students or such then, yes, of course, walking to school will be an impossibility for most. Fix your school sizes and like 99% of students will be able to walk or bike, use buses or minivans or whatnot for the rest we do that too (not really possible in Nordstrandischmoor, thing doesn’t even have a ferry but a rail link that’s only usable when the tide is low).\n
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          And no it wasn’t my school it was my Kindergarten, which wasn’t, by a long shot, the closest to home it was the one my parents chose. I mentioned it to say that biking 3.5km is something a 4yold can do, physically, without any issue at all really.
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          > Roads are typically 2 lanes one in each direction. You already know this because you said a solution would be to remove the lane marker.\n
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          I’m someone else.\n
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          > So you have a road with an elementary school, and 2 miles further down is a middle school. Even without that you have buses passing each other during pickup because busses only pickup kids on one side of the street so you don’t have young kids crossing roads.\n
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          Lots of questions here: Why can’t kids walk 500m to the next bus stop? Why are streets so unsafe so that kids can’t cross them?\n
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          Why assume that there’s no larger road in between those smaller roads? Roads generally form a hierarchy, you have big ones feeding into middle ones feeding into small ones. Small ones should absolutely be safe to cross, also without explicit crossings, because they’re traffic calmed and don’t have much traffic in the first place. That’s where houses and schools are, where there’s no through-traffic because even if they aren’t cul de sacs who would drive through a road you can’t drive fast on when there’s a mid-level road that you could take.\n
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          > What do you call a section of inner city bounded on all sides by a road in your country?\n
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          Straßenblock. Let me put it differently: We don’t have grids and nothing is regular. [This is about as grid-y as it gets](https://www.google.com/maps/@53.5753832,9.9851206,1090m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) and if you zoom in you’ll notice that the interior streets have no lane markers and some even are cobbled. Those connect to a street ( south, Hallerstraße) with bike lanes (don’t need those on smaller streets because there’s not enough traffic to warrant them), which connects to a four-lane (plus bus lane) street, Grindelalle, west. The intersection looks a bit crazy but it’s actually safe for pedestrians and you should’ve learned how to cross streets safely and what traffic lights are in Kindergarten. You’ve also been there with your parents (going shopping or whatever) a lot of times, nothing scary really. That kind of density and housing is probably illegal to build where you are (it’s illegal pretty much everywhere in the US and Canada).\n
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          And mind you Hamburg is awful when it comes to urbanism, way too car-centric. Not because of lack of public transport but because politicians are unwilling to kill off car traffic and the whole city is full of rich fucks with too much disposable income.
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          Let me look at a map… maybe 1km max anywhere in my 30k town to the next primary school and that’s when you’re living on the very very edge of town. Should be under 500m for most pupils.\n
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          If you’re living in a rural area, outside of the next village (which will have a school), which is an absolute exception as things tend to cluster into villages in rural areas, it might be 5km. Not really an issue with a bike, I biked what 3.5km to Kindergarten (together with my mom). If you have less density than that you probably should have boarding schools.\n
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          For secondary education, if you’re living in a village you’ll probably have to take the bus to the nearest city. Regular public transport though the schedule will take school times into account. Yes, kids can walk 500m to the nearest station.\n
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          Bonus: All that school density – smaller but way more of them – means that there’s obvious places to hold elections as there’s a municipality-owned place in Sunday stroll distance to pretty much everywhere. The only downside are the ludicrously low tables.
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    Why can’t you have one-way streets in a rural area? Fork off the main street on one end, merge on the other. Pedestrian and bicycle traffic can be bidirectional, cars can take a little detour they don’t use muscle energy.\n
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    > > Wide enough for one pickup and no opposing traffic, but so narrow that two pickups are going to really have to negotiate to move around each other."\n
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    How does that translate to "block the street for buses? If a street fits two pickups it fits two buses. They’ll have to negotiate to move around each other so if you have many (which, as I told you a lot, you shouldn’t) you should consider a one-way road, or maybe a meeting bay, or a wider street with choke points, or whatever. But it’s not “blocking the road for buses”.
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      EDIT: since apparently a bunch of people woke up with the wrong foot this morning or forgot to check the group they’re in:\n
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          > You have one bus going in one direction to a school passing another bus going to another school.\n
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          In front of a school? Are your schools connected directly to highways or something?\n
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          > Have you only lived in an inner city where roads can be one way because they alternate in direction every block?\n
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          We don’t have blocks.
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          > Cost. That separate road means buying land from someone and turning it into road. Do they have one way roads for rural schools in Germany? Because I looked at a few Grundschule in Bavaria on Google maps and didn’t see any.\n
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          You’ll have a hard time finding a village with *literally* one single road. Certainly not one 1-2k which is the size that gets the school for the surrounding ones.\n
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          > It is cheaper and more convenient to have a speed camera that is active only during school hours.\n
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          And also completely ineffective at preventing anything.Heck at least use road bumps. Narrow the road only in spots so that two monster trucks if you please fit on comfortably side by side for 50-100m or such, but then it narrows down to half that for just 5m. While you’re at it build a crossing there, narrowing the roads at pedestrian crossing is standard practice in many places and it makes a hell a lot of sense. Yes, that slows down traffic because you might have to negotiate with oncoming traffic who goes first. Yes, that’s precisely the point.
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          > Schools have more than one bus and they have to pass each other.\n
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          No they don’t they can enter from the same side. You’re just looking for excuses. Also why do you need buses in the first place why aren’t the kids walking or biking.
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        +body: "[Relevant Not Just Bikes](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bglWCuCMSWc)."
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          Not an issue in Europe. Though granted the US would probably need to replace their fire trucks with sanely-sized ones. You also don’t need to haul a big-ass ladder in a low-density area what’s your plan use it to do a header into a suburban pool.\n
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          Regarding response time absence of gridlock will be more important than the last hundred metres on a residential street, consider investing in public transportation, walkable cities, and generally everything that abolishes owning and using a car being mandatory.
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          Things aren’t done differently, in principle, in villages. You were the one brining up blocks or did you mean “buildings surrounded by roads *and fields*”.\n
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          [This is Wacken](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.0275469,9.3755654,169m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) (*the* Wacken), I zoomed you in on the primary school. There’s surrounding villages without school so it’s bound to get bus traffic. Note how it’s on a street that’s wide enough for that, but not the main road, the one with all the through-traffic. Can you understand that principle. (Main Roads, actually, Wacken has two, Schenefelder and Hauptstraße).\n
          \n
          > I only took issue with the ridiculous idea that the roads in front of rural US schools could be made safer by making them impassable by busses.\n
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          Noone ever said that? At least I didn’t.
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          > A block in the US doesn’t mean a square either.\n
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          Yes, great, blame a non native speaker for expressing himself incorrectly, correcting himself, and then quadruple down on it. I was thinking of unprioritised NY-style blocks you see all over the place in US cities, gridlock magnets. You know, places where people say “down the block” and generally measure distances in blocks.\n
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          > It is required that children do not cross two lane roads to be picked up by school buses. I don’t make the rules. I don’t have a solution to US car culture. But making roads unpassable by school buses isn’t an answer.\n
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          If you look back at that Hamburg link, at those streets internal to the superblock, you’ll notice that they *are* wide enough for buses to go through. There’s no regular bus lines through there (there’s two metro stations and plenty of bus stops surrounding it) but a school bus isn’t regular service, it doesn’t need to play by the same rules. You can make a pickup at one of those very spacious intersections. It’s not being done because there’s schools in walking distance and German kids can cross roads but it *could* be done. Would you, however, ever speed on those roads.
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          US suburbia has a higher density than the German countryside, having to travel 24km is nuts. That’d be defensible if you live in a tiny settlement 24km from a place with more than two dozen houses – I’m sure those exist in the US but suburbia isn’t that.\n
          \n
          How many pupils were there at your school? My state has 106240 pupils in 393 primary schools, that’s an average of 270. Minimum size under ordinary circumstances is 80, the smallest is on Nordstrandischmoor: An island, 18 inhabitants, five families, one school, one teacher, two students, [here it is](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.5518864,8.8108853,16z?entry=ttu). That’s because we don’t do boarding in primary education so there’s a maximum tolerable commute time/distance, once those kids are old enough they’ll spend Monday through Friday on the mainland.\n
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          If your system insists that a school have at least 2k students or such then, yes, of course, walking to school will be an impossibility for most. Fix your school sizes and like 99% of students will be able to walk or bike, use buses or minivans or whatnot for the rest we do that too (not really possible in Nordstrandischmoor, thing doesn’t even have a ferry but a rail link that’s only usable when the tide is low).\n
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          And no it wasn’t my school it was my Kindergarten, which wasn’t, by a long shot, the closest to home it was the one my parents chose. I mentioned it to say that biking 3.5km is something a 4yold can do, physically, without any issue at all really.
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          > Roads are typically 2 lanes one in each direction. You already know this because you said a solution would be to remove the lane marker.\n
          \n
          I’m someone else.\n
          \n
          > So you have a road with an elementary school, and 2 miles further down is a middle school. Even without that you have buses passing each other during pickup because busses only pickup kids on one side of the street so you don’t have young kids crossing roads.\n
          \n
          Lots of questions here: Why can’t kids walk 500m to the next bus stop? Why are streets so unsafe so that kids can’t cross them?\n
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          Why assume that there’s no larger road in between those smaller roads? Roads generally form a hierarchy, you have big ones feeding into middle ones feeding into small ones. Small ones should absolutely be safe to cross, also without explicit crossings, because they’re traffic calmed and don’t have much traffic in the first place. That’s where houses and schools are, where there’s no through-traffic because even if they aren’t cul de sacs who would drive through a road you can’t drive fast on when there’s a mid-level road that you could take.\n
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          > What do you call a section of inner city bounded on all sides by a road in your country?\n
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          Straßenblock. Let me put it differently: We don’t have grids and nothing is regular. [This is about as grid-y as it gets](https://www.google.com/maps/@53.5753832,9.9851206,1090m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) and if you zoom in you’ll notice that the interior streets have no lane markers and some even are cobbled. Those connect to a street ( south, Hallerstraße) with bike lanes (don’t need those on smaller streets because there’s not enough traffic to warrant them), which connects to a four-lane (plus bus lane) street, Grindelalle, west. The intersection looks a bit crazy but it’s actually safe for pedestrians and you should’ve learned how to cross streets safely and what traffic lights are in Kindergarten. You’ve also been there with your parents (going shopping or whatever) a lot of times, nothing scary really. That kind of density and housing is probably illegal to build where you are (it’s illegal pretty much everywhere in the US and Canada).\n
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          And mind you Hamburg is awful when it comes to urbanism, way too car-centric. Not because of lack of public transport but because politicians are unwilling to kill off car traffic and the whole city is full of rich fucks with too much disposable income.
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          Let me look at a map… maybe 1km max anywhere in my 30k town to the next primary school and that’s when you’re living on the very very edge of town. Should be under 500m for most pupils.\n
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    Why can’t you have one-way streets in a rural area? Fork off the main street on one end, merge on the other. Pedestrian and bicycle traffic can be bidirectional, cars can take a little detour they don’t use muscle energy.\n
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    > > Wide enough for one pickup and no opposing traffic, but so narrow that two pickups are going to really have to negotiate to move around each other."\n
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    How does that translate to "block the street for buses? If a street fits two pickups it fits two buses. They’ll have to negotiate to move around each other so if you have many (which, as I told you a lot, you shouldn’t) you should consider a one-way road, or maybe a meeting bay, or a wider street with choke points, or whatever. But it’s not “blocking the road for buses”.
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          > You have one bus going in one direction to a school passing another bus going to another school.\n
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          In front of a school? Are your schools connected directly to highways or something?\n
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          > Have you only lived in an inner city where roads can be one way because they alternate in direction every block?\n
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          We don’t have blocks.
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          > Cost. That separate road means buying land from someone and turning it into road. Do they have one way roads for rural schools in Germany? Because I looked at a few Grundschule in Bavaria on Google maps and didn’t see any.\n
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          You’ll have a hard time finding a village with *literally* one single road. Certainly not one 1-2k which is the size that gets the school for the surrounding ones.\n
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          > Schools have more than one bus and they have to pass each other.\n
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          Not an issue in Europe. Though granted the US would probably need to replace their fire trucks with sanely-sized ones. You also don’t need to haul a big-ass ladder in a low-density area what’s your plan use it to do a header into a suburban pool.\n
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          Regarding response time absence of gridlock will be more important than the last hundred metres on a residential street, consider investing in public transportation, walkable cities, and generally everything that abolishes owning and using a car being mandatory.
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          Things aren’t done differently, in principle, in villages. You were the one brining up blocks or did you mean “buildings surrounded by roads *and fields*”.\n
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          [This is Wacken](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.0275469,9.3755654,169m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) (*the* Wacken), I zoomed you in on the primary school. There’s surrounding villages without school so it’s bound to get bus traffic. Note how it’s on a street that’s wide enough for that, but not the main road, the one with all the through-traffic. Can you understand that principle. (Main Roads, actually, Wacken has two, Schenefelder and Hauptstraße).\n
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          > I only took issue with the ridiculous idea that the roads in front of rural US schools could be made safer by making them impassable by busses.\n
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          Noone ever said that? At least I didn’t.
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          > A block in the US doesn’t mean a square either.\n
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          Yes, great, blame a non native speaker for expressing himself incorrectly, correcting himself, and then quadruple down on it. I was thinking of unprioritised NY-style blocks you see all over the place in US cities, gridlock magnets. You know, places where people say “down the block” and generally measure distances in blocks.\n
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          > It is required that children do not cross two lane roads to be picked up by school buses. I don’t make the rules. I don’t have a solution to US car culture. But making roads unpassable by school buses isn’t an answer.\n
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          If you look back at that Hamburg link, at those streets internal to the superblock, you’ll notice that they *are* wide enough for buses to go through. There’s no regular bus lines through there (there’s two metro stations and plenty of bus stops surrounding it) but a school bus isn’t regular service, it doesn’t need to play by the same rules. You can make a pickup at one of those very spacious intersections. It’s not being done because there’s schools in walking distance and German kids can cross roads but it *could* be done. Would you, however, ever speed on those roads.
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          US suburbia has a higher density than the German countryside, having to travel 24km is nuts. That’d be defensible if you live in a tiny settlement 24km from a place with more than two dozen houses – I’m sure those exist in the US but suburbia isn’t that.\n
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          How many pupils were there at your school? My state has 106240 pupils in 393 primary schools, that’s an average of 270. Minimum size under ordinary circumstances is 80, the smallest is on Nordstrandischmoor: An island, 18 inhabitants, five families, one school, one teacher, two students, [here it is](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.5518864,8.8108853,16z?entry=ttu). That’s because we don’t do boarding in primary education so there’s a maximum tolerable commute time/distance, once those kids are old enough they’ll spend Monday through Friday on the mainland.\n
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          If your system insists that a school have at least 2k students or such then, yes, of course, walking to school will be an impossibility for most. Fix your school sizes and like 99% of students will be able to walk or bike, use buses or minivans or whatnot for the rest we do that too (not really possible in Nordstrandischmoor, thing doesn’t even have a ferry but a rail link that’s only usable when the tide is low).\n
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          And no it wasn’t my school it was my Kindergarten, which wasn’t, by a long shot, the closest to home it was the one my parents chose. I mentioned it to say that biking 3.5km is something a 4yold can do, physically, without any issue at all really.
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          > Roads are typically 2 lanes one in each direction. You already know this because you said a solution would be to remove the lane marker.\n
          \n
          I’m someone else.\n
          \n
          > So you have a road with an elementary school, and 2 miles further down is a middle school. Even without that you have buses passing each other during pickup because busses only pickup kids on one side of the street so you don’t have young kids crossing roads.\n
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          Lots of questions here: Why can’t kids walk 500m to the next bus stop? Why are streets so unsafe so that kids can’t cross them?\n
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          Why assume that there’s no larger road in between those smaller roads? Roads generally form a hierarchy, you have big ones feeding into middle ones feeding into small ones. Small ones should absolutely be safe to cross, also without explicit crossings, because they’re traffic calmed and don’t have much traffic in the first place. That’s where houses and schools are, where there’s no through-traffic because even if they aren’t cul de sacs who would drive through a road you can’t drive fast on when there’s a mid-level road that you could take.\n
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          > What do you call a section of inner city bounded on all sides by a road in your country?\n
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          Straßenblock. Let me put it differently: We don’t have grids and nothing is regular. [This is about as grid-y as it gets](https://www.google.com/maps/@53.5753832,9.9851206,1090m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) and if you zoom in you’ll notice that the interior streets have no lane markers and some even are cobbled. Those connect to a street ( south, Hallerstraße) with bike lanes (don’t need those on smaller streets because there’s not enough traffic to warrant them), which connects to a four-lane (plus bus lane) street, Grindelalle, west. The intersection looks a bit crazy but it’s actually safe for pedestrians and you should’ve learned how to cross streets safely and what traffic lights are in Kindergarten. You’ve also been there with your parents (going shopping or whatever) a lot of times, nothing scary really. That kind of density and housing is probably illegal to build where you are (it’s illegal pretty much everywhere in the US and Canada).\n
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          And mind you Hamburg is awful when it comes to urbanism, way too car-centric. Not because of lack of public transport but because politicians are unwilling to kill off car traffic and the whole city is full of rich fucks with too much disposable income.
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          Let me look at a map… maybe 1km max anywhere in my 30k town to the next primary school and that’s when you’re living on the very very edge of town. Should be under 500m for most pupils.\n
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          If you’re living in a rural area, outside of the next village (which will have a school), which is an absolute exception as things tend to cluster into villages in rural areas, it might be 5km. Not really an issue with a bike, I biked what 3.5km to Kindergarten (together with my mom). If you have less density than that you probably should have boarding schools.\n
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          For secondary education, if you’re living in a village you’ll probably have to take the bus to the nearest city. Regular public transport though the schedule will take school times into account. Yes, kids can walk 500m to the nearest station.\n
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          Bonus: All that school density – smaller but way more of them – means that there’s obvious places to hold elections as there’s a municipality-owned place in Sunday stroll distance to pretty much everywhere. The only downside are the ludicrously low tables.
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    Why can’t you have one-way streets in a rural area? Fork off the main street on one end, merge on the other. Pedestrian and bicycle traffic can be bidirectional, cars can take a little detour they don’t use muscle energy.\n
    \n
    > > Wide enough for one pickup and no opposing traffic, but so narrow that two pickups are going to really have to negotiate to move around each other."\n
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    How does that translate to "block the street for buses? If a street fits two pickups it fits two buses. They’ll have to negotiate to move around each other so if you have many (which, as I told you a lot, you shouldn’t) you should consider a one-way road, or maybe a meeting bay, or a wider street with choke points, or whatever. But it’s not “blocking the road for buses”.
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      EDIT: since apparently a bunch of people woke up with the wrong foot this morning or forgot to check the group they’re in:\n
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      If you’re addicted to crack or any other drugs, please seek professional help.
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          > You have one bus going in one direction to a school passing another bus going to another school.\n
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          In front of a school? Are your schools connected directly to highways or something?\n
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          > Have you only lived in an inner city where roads can be one way because they alternate in direction every block?\n
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          We don’t have blocks.
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          > Cost. That separate road means buying land from someone and turning it into road. Do they have one way roads for rural schools in Germany? Because I looked at a few Grundschule in Bavaria on Google maps and didn’t see any.\n
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          You’ll have a hard time finding a village with *literally* one single road. Certainly not one 1-2k which is the size that gets the school for the surrounding ones.\n
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          > It is cheaper and more convenient to have a speed camera that is active only during school hours.\n
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          And also completely ineffective at preventing anything.Heck at least use road bumps. Narrow the road only in spots so that two monster trucks if you please fit on comfortably side by side for 50-100m or such, but then it narrows down to half that for just 5m. While you’re at it build a crossing there, narrowing the roads at pedestrian crossing is standard practice in many places and it makes a hell a lot of sense. Yes, that slows down traffic because you might have to negotiate with oncoming traffic who goes first. Yes, that’s precisely the point.
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          > Schools have more than one bus and they have to pass each other.\n
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          No they don’t they can enter from the same side. You’re just looking for excuses. Also why do you need buses in the first place why aren’t the kids walking or biking.
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          Why can’t you have one-way streets in a rural area? Fork off the main street on one end, merge on the other. Pedestrian and bicycle traffic can be bidirectional, cars can take a little detour they don’t use muscle energy.\n
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          > > Wide enough for one pickup and no opposing traffic, but so narrow that two pickups are going to really have to negotiate to move around each other."\n
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          How does that translate to "block the street for buses? If a street fits two pickups it fits two buses. They’ll have to negotiate to move around each other so if you have many (which, as I told you a lot, you shouldn’t) you should consider a one-way road, or maybe a meeting bay, or a wider street with choke points, or whatever. But it’s not “blocking the road for buses”.
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          Not an issue in Europe. Though granted the US would probably need to replace their fire trucks with sanely-sized ones. You also don’t need to haul a big-ass ladder in a low-density area what’s your plan use it to do a header into a suburban pool.\n
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          Regarding response time absence of gridlock will be more important than the last hundred metres on a residential street, consider investing in public transportation, walkable cities, and generally everything that abolishes owning and using a car being mandatory.
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          Things aren’t done differently, in principle, in villages. You were the one brining up blocks or did you mean “buildings surrounded by roads *and fields*”.\n
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          [This is Wacken](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.0275469,9.3755654,169m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) (*the* Wacken), I zoomed you in on the primary school. There’s surrounding villages without school so it’s bound to get bus traffic. Note how it’s on a street that’s wide enough for that, but not the main road, the one with all the through-traffic. Can you understand that principle. (Main Roads, actually, Wacken has two, Schenefelder and Hauptstraße).\n
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          > I only took issue with the ridiculous idea that the roads in front of rural US schools could be made safer by making them impassable by busses.\n
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          Noone ever said that? At least I didn’t.
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          > A block in the US doesn’t mean a square either.\n
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          Yes, great, blame a non native speaker for expressing himself incorrectly, correcting himself, and then quadruple down on it. I was thinking of unprioritised NY-style blocks you see all over the place in US cities, gridlock magnets. You know, places where people say “down the block” and generally measure distances in blocks.\n
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          > It is required that children do not cross two lane roads to be picked up by school buses. I don’t make the rules. I don’t have a solution to US car culture. But making roads unpassable by school buses isn’t an answer.\n
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          If you look back at that Hamburg link, at those streets internal to the superblock, you’ll notice that they *are* wide enough for buses to go through. There’s no regular bus lines through there (there’s two metro stations and plenty of bus stops surrounding it) but a school bus isn’t regular service, it doesn’t need to play by the same rules. You can make a pickup at one of those very spacious intersections. It’s not being done because there’s schools in walking distance and German kids can cross roads but it *could* be done. Would you, however, ever speed on those roads.
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          US suburbia has a higher density than the German countryside, having to travel 24km is nuts. That’d be defensible if you live in a tiny settlement 24km from a place with more than two dozen houses – I’m sure those exist in the US but suburbia isn’t that.\n
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          How many pupils were there at your school? My state has 106240 pupils in 393 primary schools, that’s an average of 270. Minimum size under ordinary circumstances is 80, the smallest is on Nordstrandischmoor: An island, 18 inhabitants, five families, one school, one teacher, two students, [here it is](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.5518864,8.8108853,16z?entry=ttu). That’s because we don’t do boarding in primary education so there’s a maximum tolerable commute time/distance, once those kids are old enough they’ll spend Monday through Friday on the mainland.\n
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          If your system insists that a school have at least 2k students or such then, yes, of course, walking to school will be an impossibility for most. Fix your school sizes and like 99% of students will be able to walk or bike, use buses or minivans or whatnot for the rest we do that too (not really possible in Nordstrandischmoor, thing doesn’t even have a ferry but a rail link that’s only usable when the tide is low).\n
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          And no it wasn’t my school it was my Kindergarten, which wasn’t, by a long shot, the closest to home it was the one my parents chose. I mentioned it to say that biking 3.5km is something a 4yold can do, physically, without any issue at all really.
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          > Roads are typically 2 lanes one in each direction. You already know this because you said a solution would be to remove the lane marker.\n
          \n
          I’m someone else.\n
          \n
          > So you have a road with an elementary school, and 2 miles further down is a middle school. Even without that you have buses passing each other during pickup because busses only pickup kids on one side of the street so you don’t have young kids crossing roads.\n
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          Lots of questions here: Why can’t kids walk 500m to the next bus stop? Why are streets so unsafe so that kids can’t cross them?\n
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          Why assume that there’s no larger road in between those smaller roads? Roads generally form a hierarchy, you have big ones feeding into middle ones feeding into small ones. Small ones should absolutely be safe to cross, also without explicit crossings, because they’re traffic calmed and don’t have much traffic in the first place. That’s where houses and schools are, where there’s no through-traffic because even if they aren’t cul de sacs who would drive through a road you can’t drive fast on when there’s a mid-level road that you could take.\n
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          > What do you call a section of inner city bounded on all sides by a road in your country?\n
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          Straßenblock. Let me put it differently: We don’t have grids and nothing is regular. [This is about as grid-y as it gets](https://www.google.com/maps/@53.5753832,9.9851206,1090m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) and if you zoom in you’ll notice that the interior streets have no lane markers and some even are cobbled. Those connect to a street ( south, Hallerstraße) with bike lanes (don’t need those on smaller streets because there’s not enough traffic to warrant them), which connects to a four-lane (plus bus lane) street, Grindelalle, west. The intersection looks a bit crazy but it’s actually safe for pedestrians and you should’ve learned how to cross streets safely and what traffic lights are in Kindergarten. You’ve also been there with your parents (going shopping or whatever) a lot of times, nothing scary really. That kind of density and housing is probably illegal to build where you are (it’s illegal pretty much everywhere in the US and Canada).\n
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          And mind you Hamburg is awful when it comes to urbanism, way too car-centric. Not because of lack of public transport but because politicians are unwilling to kill off car traffic and the whole city is full of rich fucks with too much disposable income.
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          Let me look at a map… maybe 1km max anywhere in my 30k town to the next primary school and that’s when you’re living on the very very edge of town. Should be under 500m for most pupils.\n
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          If you’re living in a rural area, outside of the next village (which will have a school), which is an absolute exception as things tend to cluster into villages in rural areas, it might be 5km. Not really an issue with a bike, I biked what 3.5km to Kindergarten (together with my mom). If you have less density than that you probably should have boarding schools.\n
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          For secondary education, if you’re living in a village you’ll probably have to take the bus to the nearest city. Regular public transport though the schedule will take school times into account. Yes, kids can walk 500m to the nearest station.\n
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          Bonus: All that school density – smaller but way more of them – means that there’s obvious places to hold elections as there’s a municipality-owned place in Sunday stroll distance to pretty much everywhere. The only downside are the ludicrously low tables.
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      EDIT: since apparently a bunch of people woke up with the wrong foot this morning or forgot to check the group they’re in:\n
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      This is a joke. Do not steal or vandalize speed enforcement cameras (or anything else for that matter). That’s against the law and you will likely get arrested.\n
      \n
      If you’re addicted to crack or any other drugs, please seek professional help.
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          > You have one bus going in one direction to a school passing another bus going to another school.\n
          \n
          In front of a school? Are your schools connected directly to highways or something?\n
          \n
          > Have you only lived in an inner city where roads can be one way because they alternate in direction every block?\n
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          We don’t have blocks.
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          > Cost. That separate road means buying land from someone and turning it into road. Do they have one way roads for rural schools in Germany? Because I looked at a few Grundschule in Bavaria on Google maps and didn’t see any.\n
          \n
          You’ll have a hard time finding a village with *literally* one single road. Certainly not one 1-2k which is the size that gets the school for the surrounding ones.\n
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          > It is cheaper and more convenient to have a speed camera that is active only during school hours.\n
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          And also completely ineffective at preventing anything.Heck at least use road bumps. Narrow the road only in spots so that two monster trucks if you please fit on comfortably side by side for 50-100m or such, but then it narrows down to half that for just 5m. While you’re at it build a crossing there, narrowing the roads at pedestrian crossing is standard practice in many places and it makes a hell a lot of sense. Yes, that slows down traffic because you might have to negotiate with oncoming traffic who goes first. Yes, that’s precisely the point.
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          > Schools have more than one bus and they have to pass each other.\n
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          No they don’t they can enter from the same side. You’re just looking for excuses. Also why do you need buses in the first place why aren’t the kids walking or biking.
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          Why can’t you have one-way streets in a rural area? Fork off the main street on one end, merge on the other. Pedestrian and bicycle traffic can be bidirectional, cars can take a little detour they don’t use muscle energy.\n
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          > > Wide enough for one pickup and no opposing traffic, but so narrow that two pickups are going to really have to negotiate to move around each other."\n
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          How does that translate to "block the street for buses? If a street fits two pickups it fits two buses. They’ll have to negotiate to move around each other so if you have many (which, as I told you a lot, you shouldn’t) you should consider a one-way road, or maybe a meeting bay, or a wider street with choke points, or whatever. But it’s not “blocking the road for buses”.
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          Not an issue in Europe. Though granted the US would probably need to replace their fire trucks with sanely-sized ones. You also don’t need to haul a big-ass ladder in a low-density area what’s your plan use it to do a header into a suburban pool.\n
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          Regarding response time absence of gridlock will be more important than the last hundred metres on a residential street, consider investing in public transportation, walkable cities, and generally everything that abolishes owning and using a car being mandatory.
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          Things aren’t done differently, in principle, in villages. You were the one brining up blocks or did you mean “buildings surrounded by roads *and fields*”.\n
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          [This is Wacken](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.0275469,9.3755654,169m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) (*the* Wacken), I zoomed you in on the primary school. There’s surrounding villages without school so it’s bound to get bus traffic. Note how it’s on a street that’s wide enough for that, but not the main road, the one with all the through-traffic. Can you understand that principle. (Main Roads, actually, Wacken has two, Schenefelder and Hauptstraße).\n
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          > I only took issue with the ridiculous idea that the roads in front of rural US schools could be made safer by making them impassable by busses.\n
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          Noone ever said that? At least I didn’t.
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          > A block in the US doesn’t mean a square either.\n
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          Yes, great, blame a non native speaker for expressing himself incorrectly, correcting himself, and then quadruple down on it. I was thinking of unprioritised NY-style blocks you see all over the place in US cities, gridlock magnets. You know, places where people say “down the block” and generally measure distances in blocks.\n
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          > It is required that children do not cross two lane roads to be picked up by school buses. I don’t make the rules. I don’t have a solution to US car culture. But making roads unpassable by school buses isn’t an answer.\n
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          If you look back at that Hamburg link, at those streets internal to the superblock, you’ll notice that they *are* wide enough for buses to go through. There’s no regular bus lines through there (there’s two metro stations and plenty of bus stops surrounding it) but a school bus isn’t regular service, it doesn’t need to play by the same rules. You can make a pickup at one of those very spacious intersections. It’s not being done because there’s schools in walking distance and German kids can cross roads but it *could* be done. Would you, however, ever speed on those roads.
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          US suburbia has a higher density than the German countryside, having to travel 24km is nuts. That’d be defensible if you live in a tiny settlement 24km from a place with more than two dozen houses – I’m sure those exist in the US but suburbia isn’t that.\n
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          How many pupils were there at your school? My state has 106240 pupils in 393 primary schools, that’s an average of 270. Minimum size under ordinary circumstances is 80, the smallest is on Nordstrandischmoor: An island, 18 inhabitants, five families, one school, one teacher, two students, [here it is](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.5518864,8.8108853,16z?entry=ttu). That’s because we don’t do boarding in primary education so there’s a maximum tolerable commute time/distance, once those kids are old enough they’ll spend Monday through Friday on the mainland.\n
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          If your system insists that a school have at least 2k students or such then, yes, of course, walking to school will be an impossibility for most. Fix your school sizes and like 99% of students will be able to walk or bike, use buses or minivans or whatnot for the rest we do that too (not really possible in Nordstrandischmoor, thing doesn’t even have a ferry but a rail link that’s only usable when the tide is low).\n
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          And no it wasn’t my school it was my Kindergarten, which wasn’t, by a long shot, the closest to home it was the one my parents chose. I mentioned it to say that biking 3.5km is something a 4yold can do, physically, without any issue at all really.
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          > Roads are typically 2 lanes one in each direction. You already know this because you said a solution would be to remove the lane marker.\n
          \n
          I’m someone else.\n
          \n
          > So you have a road with an elementary school, and 2 miles further down is a middle school. Even without that you have buses passing each other during pickup because busses only pickup kids on one side of the street so you don’t have young kids crossing roads.\n
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          Lots of questions here: Why can’t kids walk 500m to the next bus stop? Why are streets so unsafe so that kids can’t cross them?\n
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          Why assume that there’s no larger road in between those smaller roads? Roads generally form a hierarchy, you have big ones feeding into middle ones feeding into small ones. Small ones should absolutely be safe to cross, also without explicit crossings, because they’re traffic calmed and don’t have much traffic in the first place. That’s where houses and schools are, where there’s no through-traffic because even if they aren’t cul de sacs who would drive through a road you can’t drive fast on when there’s a mid-level road that you could take.\n
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          > What do you call a section of inner city bounded on all sides by a road in your country?\n
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          Straßenblock. Let me put it differently: We don’t have grids and nothing is regular. [This is about as grid-y as it gets](https://www.google.com/maps/@53.5753832,9.9851206,1090m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) and if you zoom in you’ll notice that the interior streets have no lane markers and some even are cobbled. Those connect to a street ( south, Hallerstraße) with bike lanes (don’t need those on smaller streets because there’s not enough traffic to warrant them), which connects to a four-lane (plus bus lane) street, Grindelalle, west. The intersection looks a bit crazy but it’s actually safe for pedestrians and you should’ve learned how to cross streets safely and what traffic lights are in Kindergarten. You’ve also been there with your parents (going shopping or whatever) a lot of times, nothing scary really. That kind of density and housing is probably illegal to build where you are (it’s illegal pretty much everywhere in the US and Canada).\n
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          And mind you Hamburg is awful when it comes to urbanism, way too car-centric. Not because of lack of public transport but because politicians are unwilling to kill off car traffic and the whole city is full of rich fucks with too much disposable income.
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          Let me look at a map… maybe 1km max anywhere in my 30k town to the next primary school and that’s when you’re living on the very very edge of town. Should be under 500m for most pupils.\n
          \n
          If you’re living in a rural area, outside of the next village (which will have a school), which is an absolute exception as things tend to cluster into villages in rural areas, it might be 5km. Not really an issue with a bike, I biked what 3.5km to Kindergarten (together with my mom). If you have less density than that you probably should have boarding schools.\n
          \n
          For secondary education, if you’re living in a village you’ll probably have to take the bus to the nearest city. Regular public transport though the schedule will take school times into account. Yes, kids can walk 500m to the nearest station.\n
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          Bonus: All that school density – smaller but way more of them – means that there’s obvious places to hold elections as there’s a municipality-owned place in Sunday stroll distance to pretty much everywhere. The only downside are the ludicrously low tables.
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    +slug: "Get-to-work-crackheads"
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      EDIT: since apparently a bunch of people woke up with the wrong foot this morning or forgot to check the group they’re in:\n
      \n
      This is a joke. Do not steal or vandalize speed enforcement cameras (or anything else for that matter). That’s against the law and you will likely get arrested.\n
      \n
      If you’re addicted to crack or any other drugs, please seek professional help.
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          > You have one bus going in one direction to a school passing another bus going to another school.\n
          \n
          In front of a school? Are your schools connected directly to highways or something?\n
          \n
          > Have you only lived in an inner city where roads can be one way because they alternate in direction every block?\n
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          We don’t have blocks.
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          > Cost. That separate road means buying land from someone and turning it into road. Do they have one way roads for rural schools in Germany? Because I looked at a few Grundschule in Bavaria on Google maps and didn’t see any.\n
          \n
          You’ll have a hard time finding a village with *literally* one single road. Certainly not one 1-2k which is the size that gets the school for the surrounding ones.\n
          \n
          > It is cheaper and more convenient to have a speed camera that is active only during school hours.\n
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          And also completely ineffective at preventing anything.Heck at least use road bumps. Narrow the road only in spots so that two monster trucks if you please fit on comfortably side by side for 50-100m or such, but then it narrows down to half that for just 5m. While you’re at it build a crossing there, narrowing the roads at pedestrian crossing is standard practice in many places and it makes a hell a lot of sense. Yes, that slows down traffic because you might have to negotiate with oncoming traffic who goes first. Yes, that’s precisely the point.
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          > Schools have more than one bus and they have to pass each other.\n
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          No they don’t they can enter from the same side. You’re just looking for excuses. Also why do you need buses in the first place why aren’t the kids walking or biking.
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          Why can’t you have one-way streets in a rural area? Fork off the main street on one end, merge on the other. Pedestrian and bicycle traffic can be bidirectional, cars can take a little detour they don’t use muscle energy.\n
          \n
          > > Wide enough for one pickup and no opposing traffic, but so narrow that two pickups are going to really have to negotiate to move around each other."\n
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          How does that translate to "block the street for buses? If a street fits two pickups it fits two buses. They’ll have to negotiate to move around each other so if you have many (which, as I told you a lot, you shouldn’t) you should consider a one-way road, or maybe a meeting bay, or a wider street with choke points, or whatever. But it’s not “blocking the road for buses”.
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          Not an issue in Europe. Though granted the US would probably need to replace their fire trucks with sanely-sized ones. You also don’t need to haul a big-ass ladder in a low-density area what’s your plan use it to do a header into a suburban pool.\n
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          Regarding response time absence of gridlock will be more important than the last hundred metres on a residential street, consider investing in public transportation, walkable cities, and generally everything that abolishes owning and using a car being mandatory.
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          Things aren’t done differently, in principle, in villages. You were the one brining up blocks or did you mean “buildings surrounded by roads *and fields*”.\n
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          [This is Wacken](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.0275469,9.3755654,169m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) (*the* Wacken), I zoomed you in on the primary school. There’s surrounding villages without school so it’s bound to get bus traffic. Note how it’s on a street that’s wide enough for that, but not the main road, the one with all the through-traffic. Can you understand that principle. (Main Roads, actually, Wacken has two, Schenefelder and Hauptstraße).\n
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          > I only took issue with the ridiculous idea that the roads in front of rural US schools could be made safer by making them impassable by busses.\n
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          Noone ever said that? At least I didn’t.
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          > A block in the US doesn’t mean a square either.\n
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          Yes, great, blame a non native speaker for expressing himself incorrectly, correcting himself, and then quadruple down on it. I was thinking of unprioritised NY-style blocks you see all over the place in US cities, gridlock magnets. You know, places where people say “down the block” and generally measure distances in blocks.\n
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          > It is required that children do not cross two lane roads to be picked up by school buses. I don’t make the rules. I don’t have a solution to US car culture. But making roads unpassable by school buses isn’t an answer.\n
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          If you look back at that Hamburg link, at those streets internal to the superblock, you’ll notice that they *are* wide enough for buses to go through. There’s no regular bus lines through there (there’s two metro stations and plenty of bus stops surrounding it) but a school bus isn’t regular service, it doesn’t need to play by the same rules. You can make a pickup at one of those very spacious intersections. It’s not being done because there’s schools in walking distance and German kids can cross roads but it *could* be done. Would you, however, ever speed on those roads.
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          US suburbia has a higher density than the German countryside, having to travel 24km is nuts. That’d be defensible if you live in a tiny settlement 24km from a place with more than two dozen houses – I’m sure those exist in the US but suburbia isn’t that.\n
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          How many pupils were there at your school? My state has 106240 pupils in 393 primary schools, that’s an average of 270. Minimum size under ordinary circumstances is 80, the smallest is on Nordstrandischmoor: An island, 18 inhabitants, five families, one school, one teacher, two students, [here it is](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.5518864,8.8108853,16z?entry=ttu). That’s because we don’t do boarding in primary education so there’s a maximum tolerable commute time/distance, once those kids are old enough they’ll spend Monday through Friday on the mainland.\n
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          If your system insists that a school have at least 2k students or such then, yes, of course, walking to school will be an impossibility for most. Fix your school sizes and like 99% of students will be able to walk or bike, use buses or minivans or whatnot for the rest we do that too (not really possible in Nordstrandischmoor, thing doesn’t even have a ferry but a rail link that’s only usable when the tide is low).\n
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          And no it wasn’t my school it was my Kindergarten, which wasn’t, by a long shot, the closest to home it was the one my parents chose. I mentioned it to say that biking 3.5km is something a 4yold can do, physically, without any issue at all really.
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          > Roads are typically 2 lanes one in each direction. You already know this because you said a solution would be to remove the lane marker.\n
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          I’m someone else.\n
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          > So you have a road with an elementary school, and 2 miles further down is a middle school. Even without that you have buses passing each other during pickup because busses only pickup kids on one side of the street so you don’t have young kids crossing roads.\n
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          Lots of questions here: Why can’t kids walk 500m to the next bus stop? Why are streets so unsafe so that kids can’t cross them?\n
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          Why assume that there’s no larger road in between those smaller roads? Roads generally form a hierarchy, you have big ones feeding into middle ones feeding into small ones. Small ones should absolutely be safe to cross, also without explicit crossings, because they’re traffic calmed and don’t have much traffic in the first place. That’s where houses and schools are, where there’s no through-traffic because even if they aren’t cul de sacs who would drive through a road you can’t drive fast on when there’s a mid-level road that you could take.\n
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          > What do you call a section of inner city bounded on all sides by a road in your country?\n
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          Straßenblock. Let me put it differently: We don’t have grids and nothing is regular. [This is about as grid-y as it gets](https://www.google.com/maps/@53.5753832,9.9851206,1090m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) and if you zoom in you’ll notice that the interior streets have no lane markers and some even are cobbled. Those connect to a street ( south, Hallerstraße) with bike lanes (don’t need those on smaller streets because there’s not enough traffic to warrant them), which connects to a four-lane (plus bus lane) street, Grindelalle, west. The intersection looks a bit crazy but it’s actually safe for pedestrians and you should’ve learned how to cross streets safely and what traffic lights are in Kindergarten. You’ve also been there with your parents (going shopping or whatever) a lot of times, nothing scary really. That kind of density and housing is probably illegal to build where you are (it’s illegal pretty much everywhere in the US and Canada).\n
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          And mind you Hamburg is awful when it comes to urbanism, way too car-centric. Not because of lack of public transport but because politicians are unwilling to kill off car traffic and the whole city is full of rich fucks with too much disposable income.
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          Let me look at a map… maybe 1km max anywhere in my 30k town to the next primary school and that’s when you’re living on the very very edge of town. Should be under 500m for most pupils.\n
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          If you’re living in a rural area, outside of the next village (which will have a school), which is an absolute exception as things tend to cluster into villages in rural areas, it might be 5km. Not really an issue with a bike, I biked what 3.5km to Kindergarten (together with my mom). If you have less density than that you probably should have boarding schools.\n
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          For secondary education, if you’re living in a village you’ll probably have to take the bus to the nearest city. Regular public transport though the schedule will take school times into account. Yes, kids can walk 500m to the nearest station.\n
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          Bonus: All that school density – smaller but way more of them – means that there’s obvious places to hold elections as there’s a municipality-owned place in Sunday stroll distance to pretty much everywhere. The only downside are the ludicrously low tables.
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      If you’re addicted to crack or any other drugs, please seek professional help.
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          > You have one bus going in one direction to a school passing another bus going to another school.\n
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          In front of a school? Are your schools connected directly to highways or something?\n
          \n
          > Have you only lived in an inner city where roads can be one way because they alternate in direction every block?\n
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          We don’t have blocks.
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          > Cost. That separate road means buying land from someone and turning it into road. Do they have one way roads for rural schools in Germany? Because I looked at a few Grundschule in Bavaria on Google maps and didn’t see any.\n
          \n
          You’ll have a hard time finding a village with *literally* one single road. Certainly not one 1-2k which is the size that gets the school for the surrounding ones.\n
          \n
          > It is cheaper and more convenient to have a speed camera that is active only during school hours.\n
          \n
          And also completely ineffective at preventing anything.Heck at least use road bumps. Narrow the road only in spots so that two monster trucks if you please fit on comfortably side by side for 50-100m or such, but then it narrows down to half that for just 5m. While you’re at it build a crossing there, narrowing the roads at pedestrian crossing is standard practice in many places and it makes a hell a lot of sense. Yes, that slows down traffic because you might have to negotiate with oncoming traffic who goes first. Yes, that’s precisely the point.
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          > Schools have more than one bus and they have to pass each other.\n
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          No they don’t they can enter from the same side. You’re just looking for excuses. Also why do you need buses in the first place why aren’t the kids walking or biking.
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          Why can’t you have one-way streets in a rural area? Fork off the main street on one end, merge on the other. Pedestrian and bicycle traffic can be bidirectional, cars can take a little detour they don’t use muscle energy.\n
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          > > Wide enough for one pickup and no opposing traffic, but so narrow that two pickups are going to really have to negotiate to move around each other."\n
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          How does that translate to "block the street for buses? If a street fits two pickups it fits two buses. They’ll have to negotiate to move around each other so if you have many (which, as I told you a lot, you shouldn’t) you should consider a one-way road, or maybe a meeting bay, or a wider street with choke points, or whatever. But it’s not “blocking the road for buses”.
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        +body: "[Relevant Not Just Bikes](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bglWCuCMSWc)."
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          Things aren’t done differently, in principle, in villages. You were the one brining up blocks or did you mean “buildings surrounded by roads *and fields*”.\n
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          [This is Wacken](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.0275469,9.3755654,169m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) (*the* Wacken), I zoomed you in on the primary school. There’s surrounding villages without school so it’s bound to get bus traffic. Note how it’s on a street that’s wide enough for that, but not the main road, the one with all the through-traffic. Can you understand that principle. (Main Roads, actually, Wacken has two, Schenefelder and Hauptstraße).\n
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          > I only took issue with the ridiculous idea that the roads in front of rural US schools could be made safer by making them impassable by busses.\n
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          Noone ever said that? At least I didn’t.
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          > A block in the US doesn’t mean a square either.\n
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          Yes, great, blame a non native speaker for expressing himself incorrectly, correcting himself, and then quadruple down on it. I was thinking of unprioritised NY-style blocks you see all over the place in US cities, gridlock magnets. You know, places where people say “down the block” and generally measure distances in blocks.\n
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          > It is required that children do not cross two lane roads to be picked up by school buses. I don’t make the rules. I don’t have a solution to US car culture. But making roads unpassable by school buses isn’t an answer.\n
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          If you look back at that Hamburg link, at those streets internal to the superblock, you’ll notice that they *are* wide enough for buses to go through. There’s no regular bus lines through there (there’s two metro stations and plenty of bus stops surrounding it) but a school bus isn’t regular service, it doesn’t need to play by the same rules. You can make a pickup at one of those very spacious intersections. It’s not being done because there’s schools in walking distance and German kids can cross roads but it *could* be done. Would you, however, ever speed on those roads.
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          US suburbia has a higher density than the German countryside, having to travel 24km is nuts. That’d be defensible if you live in a tiny settlement 24km from a place with more than two dozen houses – I’m sure those exist in the US but suburbia isn’t that.\n
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          How many pupils were there at your school? My state has 106240 pupils in 393 primary schools, that’s an average of 270. Minimum size under ordinary circumstances is 80, the smallest is on Nordstrandischmoor: An island, 18 inhabitants, five families, one school, one teacher, two students, [here it is](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.5518864,8.8108853,16z?entry=ttu). That’s because we don’t do boarding in primary education so there’s a maximum tolerable commute time/distance, once those kids are old enough they’ll spend Monday through Friday on the mainland.\n
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          If your system insists that a school have at least 2k students or such then, yes, of course, walking to school will be an impossibility for most. Fix your school sizes and like 99% of students will be able to walk or bike, use buses or minivans or whatnot for the rest we do that too (not really possible in Nordstrandischmoor, thing doesn’t even have a ferry but a rail link that’s only usable when the tide is low).\n
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          And no it wasn’t my school it was my Kindergarten, which wasn’t, by a long shot, the closest to home it was the one my parents chose. I mentioned it to say that biking 3.5km is something a 4yold can do, physically, without any issue at all really.
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          > Roads are typically 2 lanes one in each direction. You already know this because you said a solution would be to remove the lane marker.\n
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          I’m someone else.\n
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          > So you have a road with an elementary school, and 2 miles further down is a middle school. Even without that you have buses passing each other during pickup because busses only pickup kids on one side of the street so you don’t have young kids crossing roads.\n
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          Lots of questions here: Why can’t kids walk 500m to the next bus stop? Why are streets so unsafe so that kids can’t cross them?\n
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          Why assume that there’s no larger road in between those smaller roads? Roads generally form a hierarchy, you have big ones feeding into middle ones feeding into small ones. Small ones should absolutely be safe to cross, also without explicit crossings, because they’re traffic calmed and don’t have much traffic in the first place. That’s where houses and schools are, where there’s no through-traffic because even if they aren’t cul de sacs who would drive through a road you can’t drive fast on when there’s a mid-level road that you could take.\n
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          > What do you call a section of inner city bounded on all sides by a road in your country?\n
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          Straßenblock. Let me put it differently: We don’t have grids and nothing is regular. [This is about as grid-y as it gets](https://www.google.com/maps/@53.5753832,9.9851206,1090m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) and if you zoom in you’ll notice that the interior streets have no lane markers and some even are cobbled. Those connect to a street ( south, Hallerstraße) with bike lanes (don’t need those on smaller streets because there’s not enough traffic to warrant them), which connects to a four-lane (plus bus lane) street, Grindelalle, west. The intersection looks a bit crazy but it’s actually safe for pedestrians and you should’ve learned how to cross streets safely and what traffic lights are in Kindergarten. You’ve also been there with your parents (going shopping or whatever) a lot of times, nothing scary really. That kind of density and housing is probably illegal to build where you are (it’s illegal pretty much everywhere in the US and Canada).\n
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          And mind you Hamburg is awful when it comes to urbanism, way too car-centric. Not because of lack of public transport but because politicians are unwilling to kill off car traffic and the whole city is full of rich fucks with too much disposable income.
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          Let me look at a map… maybe 1km max anywhere in my 30k town to the next primary school and that’s when you’re living on the very very edge of town. Should be under 500m for most pupils.\n
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          If you’re living in a rural area, outside of the next village (which will have a school), which is an absolute exception as things tend to cluster into villages in rural areas, it might be 5km. Not really an issue with a bike, I biked what 3.5km to Kindergarten (together with my mom). If you have less density than that you probably should have boarding schools.\n
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          For secondary education, if you’re living in a village you’ll probably have to take the bus to the nearest city. Regular public transport though the schedule will take school times into account. Yes, kids can walk 500m to the nearest station.\n
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          Bonus: All that school density – smaller but way more of them – means that there’s obvious places to hold elections as there’s a municipality-owned place in Sunday stroll distance to pretty much everywhere. The only downside are the ludicrously low tables.
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    Not an issue in Europe. Though granted the US would probably need to replace their fire trucks with sanely-sized ones. You also don’t need to haul a big-ass ladder in a low-density area what’s your plan use it to do a header into a suburban pool.\n
    \n
    Regarding response time absence of gridlock will be more important than the last hundred metres on a residential street, consider investing in public transportation, walkable cities, and generally everything that abolishes owning and using a car being mandatory.
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      EDIT: since apparently a bunch of people woke up with the wrong foot this morning or forgot to check the group they’re in:\n
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      If you’re addicted to crack or any other drugs, please seek professional help.
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          > You have one bus going in one direction to a school passing another bus going to another school.\n
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          In front of a school? Are your schools connected directly to highways or something?\n
          \n
          > Have you only lived in an inner city where roads can be one way because they alternate in direction every block?\n
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          We don’t have blocks.
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          > Cost. That separate road means buying land from someone and turning it into road. Do they have one way roads for rural schools in Germany? Because I looked at a few Grundschule in Bavaria on Google maps and didn’t see any.\n
          \n
          You’ll have a hard time finding a village with *literally* one single road. Certainly not one 1-2k which is the size that gets the school for the surrounding ones.\n
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          > It is cheaper and more convenient to have a speed camera that is active only during school hours.\n
          \n
          And also completely ineffective at preventing anything.Heck at least use road bumps. Narrow the road only in spots so that two monster trucks if you please fit on comfortably side by side for 50-100m or such, but then it narrows down to half that for just 5m. While you’re at it build a crossing there, narrowing the roads at pedestrian crossing is standard practice in many places and it makes a hell a lot of sense. Yes, that slows down traffic because you might have to negotiate with oncoming traffic who goes first. Yes, that’s precisely the point.
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          > Schools have more than one bus and they have to pass each other.\n
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          No they don’t they can enter from the same side. You’re just looking for excuses. Also why do you need buses in the first place why aren’t the kids walking or biking.
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          Why can’t you have one-way streets in a rural area? Fork off the main street on one end, merge on the other. Pedestrian and bicycle traffic can be bidirectional, cars can take a little detour they don’t use muscle energy.\n
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          > > Wide enough for one pickup and no opposing traffic, but so narrow that two pickups are going to really have to negotiate to move around each other."\n
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          How does that translate to "block the street for buses? If a street fits two pickups it fits two buses. They’ll have to negotiate to move around each other so if you have many (which, as I told you a lot, you shouldn’t) you should consider a one-way road, or maybe a meeting bay, or a wider street with choke points, or whatever. But it’s not “blocking the road for buses”.
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        +body: "[Relevant Not Just Bikes](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bglWCuCMSWc)."
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          Things aren’t done differently, in principle, in villages. You were the one brining up blocks or did you mean “buildings surrounded by roads *and fields*”.\n
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          [This is Wacken](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.0275469,9.3755654,169m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) (*the* Wacken), I zoomed you in on the primary school. There’s surrounding villages without school so it’s bound to get bus traffic. Note how it’s on a street that’s wide enough for that, but not the main road, the one with all the through-traffic. Can you understand that principle. (Main Roads, actually, Wacken has two, Schenefelder and Hauptstraße).\n
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          > I only took issue with the ridiculous idea that the roads in front of rural US schools could be made safer by making them impassable by busses.\n
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          Noone ever said that? At least I didn’t.
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          > A block in the US doesn’t mean a square either.\n
          \n
          Yes, great, blame a non native speaker for expressing himself incorrectly, correcting himself, and then quadruple down on it. I was thinking of unprioritised NY-style blocks you see all over the place in US cities, gridlock magnets. You know, places where people say “down the block” and generally measure distances in blocks.\n
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          > It is required that children do not cross two lane roads to be picked up by school buses. I don’t make the rules. I don’t have a solution to US car culture. But making roads unpassable by school buses isn’t an answer.\n
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          If you look back at that Hamburg link, at those streets internal to the superblock, you’ll notice that they *are* wide enough for buses to go through. There’s no regular bus lines through there (there’s two metro stations and plenty of bus stops surrounding it) but a school bus isn’t regular service, it doesn’t need to play by the same rules. You can make a pickup at one of those very spacious intersections. It’s not being done because there’s schools in walking distance and German kids can cross roads but it *could* be done. Would you, however, ever speed on those roads.
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          US suburbia has a higher density than the German countryside, having to travel 24km is nuts. That’d be defensible if you live in a tiny settlement 24km from a place with more than two dozen houses – I’m sure those exist in the US but suburbia isn’t that.\n
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          How many pupils were there at your school? My state has 106240 pupils in 393 primary schools, that’s an average of 270. Minimum size under ordinary circumstances is 80, the smallest is on Nordstrandischmoor: An island, 18 inhabitants, five families, one school, one teacher, two students, [here it is](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.5518864,8.8108853,16z?entry=ttu). That’s because we don’t do boarding in primary education so there’s a maximum tolerable commute time/distance, once those kids are old enough they’ll spend Monday through Friday on the mainland.\n
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          If your system insists that a school have at least 2k students or such then, yes, of course, walking to school will be an impossibility for most. Fix your school sizes and like 99% of students will be able to walk or bike, use buses or minivans or whatnot for the rest we do that too (not really possible in Nordstrandischmoor, thing doesn’t even have a ferry but a rail link that’s only usable when the tide is low).\n
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          And no it wasn’t my school it was my Kindergarten, which wasn’t, by a long shot, the closest to home it was the one my parents chose. I mentioned it to say that biking 3.5km is something a 4yold can do, physically, without any issue at all really.
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          > Roads are typically 2 lanes one in each direction. You already know this because you said a solution would be to remove the lane marker.\n
          \n
          I’m someone else.\n
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          > So you have a road with an elementary school, and 2 miles further down is a middle school. Even without that you have buses passing each other during pickup because busses only pickup kids on one side of the street so you don’t have young kids crossing roads.\n
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          Lots of questions here: Why can’t kids walk 500m to the next bus stop? Why are streets so unsafe so that kids can’t cross them?\n
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          Why assume that there’s no larger road in between those smaller roads? Roads generally form a hierarchy, you have big ones feeding into middle ones feeding into small ones. Small ones should absolutely be safe to cross, also without explicit crossings, because they’re traffic calmed and don’t have much traffic in the first place. That’s where houses and schools are, where there’s no through-traffic because even if they aren’t cul de sacs who would drive through a road you can’t drive fast on when there’s a mid-level road that you could take.\n
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          > What do you call a section of inner city bounded on all sides by a road in your country?\n
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          Straßenblock. Let me put it differently: We don’t have grids and nothing is regular. [This is about as grid-y as it gets](https://www.google.com/maps/@53.5753832,9.9851206,1090m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) and if you zoom in you’ll notice that the interior streets have no lane markers and some even are cobbled. Those connect to a street ( south, Hallerstraße) with bike lanes (don’t need those on smaller streets because there’s not enough traffic to warrant them), which connects to a four-lane (plus bus lane) street, Grindelalle, west. The intersection looks a bit crazy but it’s actually safe for pedestrians and you should’ve learned how to cross streets safely and what traffic lights are in Kindergarten. You’ve also been there with your parents (going shopping or whatever) a lot of times, nothing scary really. That kind of density and housing is probably illegal to build where you are (it’s illegal pretty much everywhere in the US and Canada).\n
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          And mind you Hamburg is awful when it comes to urbanism, way too car-centric. Not because of lack of public transport but because politicians are unwilling to kill off car traffic and the whole city is full of rich fucks with too much disposable income.
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          Let me look at a map… maybe 1km max anywhere in my 30k town to the next primary school and that’s when you’re living on the very very edge of town. Should be under 500m for most pupils.\n
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          If you’re living in a rural area, outside of the next village (which will have a school), which is an absolute exception as things tend to cluster into villages in rural areas, it might be 5km. Not really an issue with a bike, I biked what 3.5km to Kindergarten (together with my mom). If you have less density than that you probably should have boarding schools.\n
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          For secondary education, if you’re living in a village you’ll probably have to take the bus to the nearest city. Regular public transport though the schedule will take school times into account. Yes, kids can walk 500m to the nearest station.\n
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          Bonus: All that school density – smaller but way more of them – means that there’s obvious places to hold elections as there’s a municipality-owned place in Sunday stroll distance to pretty much everywhere. The only downside are the ludicrously low tables.
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    Not an issue in Europe. Though granted the US would probably need to replace their fire trucks with sanely-sized ones. You also don’t need to haul a big-ass ladder in a low-density area what’s your plan use it to do a header into a suburban pool.\n
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    Regarding response time absence of gridlock will be more important than the last hundred metres on a residential street, consider investing in public transportation, walkable cities, and generally everything that abolishes owning and using a car being mandatory.
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    +slug: "Get-to-work-crackheads"
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      EDIT: since apparently a bunch of people woke up with the wrong foot this morning or forgot to check the group they’re in:\n
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      This is a joke. Do not steal or vandalize speed enforcement cameras (or anything else for that matter). That’s against the law and you will likely get arrested.\n
      \n
      If you’re addicted to crack or any other drugs, please seek professional help.
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          > You have one bus going in one direction to a school passing another bus going to another school.\n
          \n
          In front of a school? Are your schools connected directly to highways or something?\n
          \n
          > Have you only lived in an inner city where roads can be one way because they alternate in direction every block?\n
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          We don’t have blocks.
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          > Cost. That separate road means buying land from someone and turning it into road. Do they have one way roads for rural schools in Germany? Because I looked at a few Grundschule in Bavaria on Google maps and didn’t see any.\n
          \n
          You’ll have a hard time finding a village with *literally* one single road. Certainly not one 1-2k which is the size that gets the school for the surrounding ones.\n
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          > It is cheaper and more convenient to have a speed camera that is active only during school hours.\n
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          And also completely ineffective at preventing anything.Heck at least use road bumps. Narrow the road only in spots so that two monster trucks if you please fit on comfortably side by side for 50-100m or such, but then it narrows down to half that for just 5m. While you’re at it build a crossing there, narrowing the roads at pedestrian crossing is standard practice in many places and it makes a hell a lot of sense. Yes, that slows down traffic because you might have to negotiate with oncoming traffic who goes first. Yes, that’s precisely the point.
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          > Schools have more than one bus and they have to pass each other.\n
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          No they don’t they can enter from the same side. You’re just looking for excuses. Also why do you need buses in the first place why aren’t the kids walking or biking.
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          Why can’t you have one-way streets in a rural area? Fork off the main street on one end, merge on the other. Pedestrian and bicycle traffic can be bidirectional, cars can take a little detour they don’t use muscle energy.\n
          \n
          > > Wide enough for one pickup and no opposing traffic, but so narrow that two pickups are going to really have to negotiate to move around each other."\n
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          How does that translate to "block the street for buses? If a street fits two pickups it fits two buses. They’ll have to negotiate to move around each other so if you have many (which, as I told you a lot, you shouldn’t) you should consider a one-way road, or maybe a meeting bay, or a wider street with choke points, or whatever. But it’s not “blocking the road for buses”.
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        +body: "[Relevant Not Just Bikes](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bglWCuCMSWc)."
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          Things aren’t done differently, in principle, in villages. You were the one brining up blocks or did you mean “buildings surrounded by roads *and fields*”.\n
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          [This is Wacken](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.0275469,9.3755654,169m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) (*the* Wacken), I zoomed you in on the primary school. There’s surrounding villages without school so it’s bound to get bus traffic. Note how it’s on a street that’s wide enough for that, but not the main road, the one with all the through-traffic. Can you understand that principle. (Main Roads, actually, Wacken has two, Schenefelder and Hauptstraße).\n
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          > I only took issue with the ridiculous idea that the roads in front of rural US schools could be made safer by making them impassable by busses.\n
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          Noone ever said that? At least I didn’t.
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          > A block in the US doesn’t mean a square either.\n
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          Yes, great, blame a non native speaker for expressing himself incorrectly, correcting himself, and then quadruple down on it. I was thinking of unprioritised NY-style blocks you see all over the place in US cities, gridlock magnets. You know, places where people say “down the block” and generally measure distances in blocks.\n
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          If you look back at that Hamburg link, at those streets internal to the superblock, you’ll notice that they *are* wide enough for buses to go through. There’s no regular bus lines through there (there’s two metro stations and plenty of bus stops surrounding it) but a school bus isn’t regular service, it doesn’t need to play by the same rules. You can make a pickup at one of those very spacious intersections. It’s not being done because there’s schools in walking distance and German kids can cross roads but it *could* be done. Would you, however, ever speed on those roads.
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          US suburbia has a higher density than the German countryside, having to travel 24km is nuts. That’d be defensible if you live in a tiny settlement 24km from a place with more than two dozen houses – I’m sure those exist in the US but suburbia isn’t that.\n
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          How many pupils were there at your school? My state has 106240 pupils in 393 primary schools, that’s an average of 270. Minimum size under ordinary circumstances is 80, the smallest is on Nordstrandischmoor: An island, 18 inhabitants, five families, one school, one teacher, two students, [here it is](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.5518864,8.8108853,16z?entry=ttu). That’s because we don’t do boarding in primary education so there’s a maximum tolerable commute time/distance, once those kids are old enough they’ll spend Monday through Friday on the mainland.\n
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          If your system insists that a school have at least 2k students or such then, yes, of course, walking to school will be an impossibility for most. Fix your school sizes and like 99% of students will be able to walk or bike, use buses or minivans or whatnot for the rest we do that too (not really possible in Nordstrandischmoor, thing doesn’t even have a ferry but a rail link that’s only usable when the tide is low).\n
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          And no it wasn’t my school it was my Kindergarten, which wasn’t, by a long shot, the closest to home it was the one my parents chose. I mentioned it to say that biking 3.5km is something a 4yold can do, physically, without any issue at all really.
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          > Roads are typically 2 lanes one in each direction. You already know this because you said a solution would be to remove the lane marker.\n
          \n
          I’m someone else.\n
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          > So you have a road with an elementary school, and 2 miles further down is a middle school. Even without that you have buses passing each other during pickup because busses only pickup kids on one side of the street so you don’t have young kids crossing roads.\n
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          Lots of questions here: Why can’t kids walk 500m to the next bus stop? Why are streets so unsafe so that kids can’t cross them?\n
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          Why assume that there’s no larger road in between those smaller roads? Roads generally form a hierarchy, you have big ones feeding into middle ones feeding into small ones. Small ones should absolutely be safe to cross, also without explicit crossings, because they’re traffic calmed and don’t have much traffic in the first place. That’s where houses and schools are, where there’s no through-traffic because even if they aren’t cul de sacs who would drive through a road you can’t drive fast on when there’s a mid-level road that you could take.\n
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          > What do you call a section of inner city bounded on all sides by a road in your country?\n
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          Straßenblock. Let me put it differently: We don’t have grids and nothing is regular. [This is about as grid-y as it gets](https://www.google.com/maps/@53.5753832,9.9851206,1090m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) and if you zoom in you’ll notice that the interior streets have no lane markers and some even are cobbled. Those connect to a street ( south, Hallerstraße) with bike lanes (don’t need those on smaller streets because there’s not enough traffic to warrant them), which connects to a four-lane (plus bus lane) street, Grindelalle, west. The intersection looks a bit crazy but it’s actually safe for pedestrians and you should’ve learned how to cross streets safely and what traffic lights are in Kindergarten. You’ve also been there with your parents (going shopping or whatever) a lot of times, nothing scary really. That kind of density and housing is probably illegal to build where you are (it’s illegal pretty much everywhere in the US and Canada).\n
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          And mind you Hamburg is awful when it comes to urbanism, way too car-centric. Not because of lack of public transport but because politicians are unwilling to kill off car traffic and the whole city is full of rich fucks with too much disposable income.
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          Let me look at a map… maybe 1km max anywhere in my 30k town to the next primary school and that’s when you’re living on the very very edge of town. Should be under 500m for most pupils.\n
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          If you’re living in a rural area, outside of the next village (which will have a school), which is an absolute exception as things tend to cluster into villages in rural areas, it might be 5km. Not really an issue with a bike, I biked what 3.5km to Kindergarten (together with my mom). If you have less density than that you probably should have boarding schools.\n
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          For secondary education, if you’re living in a village you’ll probably have to take the bus to the nearest city. Regular public transport though the schedule will take school times into account. Yes, kids can walk 500m to the nearest station.\n
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          Bonus: All that school density – smaller but way more of them – means that there’s obvious places to hold elections as there’s a municipality-owned place in Sunday stroll distance to pretty much everywhere. The only downside are the ludicrously low tables.
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    Not an issue in Europe. Though granted the US would probably need to replace their fire trucks with sanely-sized ones. You also don’t need to haul a big-ass ladder in a low-density area what’s your plan use it to do a header into a suburban pool.\n
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    Regarding response time absence of gridlock will be more important than the last hundred metres on a residential street, consider investing in public transportation, walkable cities, and generally everything that abolishes owning and using a car being mandatory.
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          > You have one bus going in one direction to a school passing another bus going to another school.\n
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          > Have you only lived in an inner city where roads can be one way because they alternate in direction every block?\n
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          We don’t have blocks.
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          > Cost. That separate road means buying land from someone and turning it into road. Do they have one way roads for rural schools in Germany? Because I looked at a few Grundschule in Bavaria on Google maps and didn’t see any.\n
          \n
          You’ll have a hard time finding a village with *literally* one single road. Certainly not one 1-2k which is the size that gets the school for the surrounding ones.\n
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          > It is cheaper and more convenient to have a speed camera that is active only during school hours.\n
          \n
          And also completely ineffective at preventing anything.Heck at least use road bumps. Narrow the road only in spots so that two monster trucks if you please fit on comfortably side by side for 50-100m or such, but then it narrows down to half that for just 5m. While you’re at it build a crossing there, narrowing the roads at pedestrian crossing is standard practice in many places and it makes a hell a lot of sense. Yes, that slows down traffic because you might have to negotiate with oncoming traffic who goes first. Yes, that’s precisely the point.
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          > Schools have more than one bus and they have to pass each other.\n
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          No they don’t they can enter from the same side. You’re just looking for excuses. Also why do you need buses in the first place why aren’t the kids walking or biking.
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          Why can’t you have one-way streets in a rural area? Fork off the main street on one end, merge on the other. Pedestrian and bicycle traffic can be bidirectional, cars can take a little detour they don’t use muscle energy.\n
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          > > Wide enough for one pickup and no opposing traffic, but so narrow that two pickups are going to really have to negotiate to move around each other."\n
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          How does that translate to "block the street for buses? If a street fits two pickups it fits two buses. They’ll have to negotiate to move around each other so if you have many (which, as I told you a lot, you shouldn’t) you should consider a one-way road, or maybe a meeting bay, or a wider street with choke points, or whatever. But it’s not “blocking the road for buses”.
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        +body: "[Relevant Not Just Bikes](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bglWCuCMSWc)."
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          Not an issue in Europe. Though granted the US would probably need to replace their fire trucks with sanely-sized ones. You also don’t need to haul a big-ass ladder in a low-density area what’s your plan use it to do a header into a suburban pool.\n
          \n
          Regarding response time absence of gridlock will be more important than the last hundred metres on a residential street, consider investing in public transportation, walkable cities, and generally everything that abolishes owning and using a car being mandatory.
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          > A block in the US doesn’t mean a square either.\n
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          Yes, great, blame a non native speaker for expressing himself incorrectly, correcting himself, and then quadruple down on it. I was thinking of unprioritised NY-style blocks you see all over the place in US cities, gridlock magnets. You know, places where people say “down the block” and generally measure distances in blocks.\n
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          If you look back at that Hamburg link, at those streets internal to the superblock, you’ll notice that they *are* wide enough for buses to go through. There’s no regular bus lines through there (there’s two metro stations and plenty of bus stops surrounding it) but a school bus isn’t regular service, it doesn’t need to play by the same rules. You can make a pickup at one of those very spacious intersections. It’s not being done because there’s schools in walking distance and German kids can cross roads but it *could* be done. Would you, however, ever speed on those roads.
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          US suburbia has a higher density than the German countryside, having to travel 24km is nuts. That’d be defensible if you live in a tiny settlement 24km from a place with more than two dozen houses – I’m sure those exist in the US but suburbia isn’t that.\n
          \n
          How many pupils were there at your school? My state has 106240 pupils in 393 primary schools, that’s an average of 270. Minimum size under ordinary circumstances is 80, the smallest is on Nordstrandischmoor: An island, 18 inhabitants, five families, one school, one teacher, two students, [here it is](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.5518864,8.8108853,16z?entry=ttu). That’s because we don’t do boarding in primary education so there’s a maximum tolerable commute time/distance, once those kids are old enough they’ll spend Monday through Friday on the mainland.\n
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          If your system insists that a school have at least 2k students or such then, yes, of course, walking to school will be an impossibility for most. Fix your school sizes and like 99% of students will be able to walk or bike, use buses or minivans or whatnot for the rest we do that too (not really possible in Nordstrandischmoor, thing doesn’t even have a ferry but a rail link that’s only usable when the tide is low).\n
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          And no it wasn’t my school it was my Kindergarten, which wasn’t, by a long shot, the closest to home it was the one my parents chose. I mentioned it to say that biking 3.5km is something a 4yold can do, physically, without any issue at all really.
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          > Roads are typically 2 lanes one in each direction. You already know this because you said a solution would be to remove the lane marker.\n
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          I’m someone else.\n
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          > So you have a road with an elementary school, and 2 miles further down is a middle school. Even without that you have buses passing each other during pickup because busses only pickup kids on one side of the street so you don’t have young kids crossing roads.\n
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          Lots of questions here: Why can’t kids walk 500m to the next bus stop? Why are streets so unsafe so that kids can’t cross them?\n
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          Why assume that there’s no larger road in between those smaller roads? Roads generally form a hierarchy, you have big ones feeding into middle ones feeding into small ones. Small ones should absolutely be safe to cross, also without explicit crossings, because they’re traffic calmed and don’t have much traffic in the first place. That’s where houses and schools are, where there’s no through-traffic because even if they aren’t cul de sacs who would drive through a road you can’t drive fast on when there’s a mid-level road that you could take.\n
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          > What do you call a section of inner city bounded on all sides by a road in your country?\n
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          Straßenblock. Let me put it differently: We don’t have grids and nothing is regular. [This is about as grid-y as it gets](https://www.google.com/maps/@53.5753832,9.9851206,1090m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) and if you zoom in you’ll notice that the interior streets have no lane markers and some even are cobbled. Those connect to a street ( south, Hallerstraße) with bike lanes (don’t need those on smaller streets because there’s not enough traffic to warrant them), which connects to a four-lane (plus bus lane) street, Grindelalle, west. The intersection looks a bit crazy but it’s actually safe for pedestrians and you should’ve learned how to cross streets safely and what traffic lights are in Kindergarten. You’ve also been there with your parents (going shopping or whatever) a lot of times, nothing scary really. That kind of density and housing is probably illegal to build where you are (it’s illegal pretty much everywhere in the US and Canada).\n
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          And mind you Hamburg is awful when it comes to urbanism, way too car-centric. Not because of lack of public transport but because politicians are unwilling to kill off car traffic and the whole city is full of rich fucks with too much disposable income.
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          Let me look at a map… maybe 1km max anywhere in my 30k town to the next primary school and that’s when you’re living on the very very edge of town. Should be under 500m for most pupils.\n
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          If you’re living in a rural area, outside of the next village (which will have a school), which is an absolute exception as things tend to cluster into villages in rural areas, it might be 5km. Not really an issue with a bike, I biked what 3.5km to Kindergarten (together with my mom). If you have less density than that you probably should have boarding schools.\n
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          For secondary education, if you’re living in a village you’ll probably have to take the bus to the nearest city. Regular public transport though the schedule will take school times into account. Yes, kids can walk 500m to the nearest station.\n
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    Things aren’t done differently, in principle, in villages. You were the one brining up blocks or did you mean “buildings surrounded by roads *and fields*”.\n
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    [This is Wacken](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.0275469,9.3755654,169m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) (*the* Wacken), I zoomed you in on the primary school. There’s surrounding villages without school so it’s bound to get bus traffic. Note how it’s on a street that’s wide enough for that, but not the main road, the one with all the through-traffic. Can you understand that principle. (Main Roads, actually, Wacken has two, Schenefelder and Hauptstraße).\n
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    > I only took issue with the ridiculous idea that the roads in front of rural US schools could be made safer by making them impassable by busses.\n
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    Noone ever said that? At least I didn’t.
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          > You have one bus going in one direction to a school passing another bus going to another school.\n
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          In front of a school? Are your schools connected directly to highways or something?\n
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          > Have you only lived in an inner city where roads can be one way because they alternate in direction every block?\n
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          We don’t have blocks.
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          > Cost. That separate road means buying land from someone and turning it into road. Do they have one way roads for rural schools in Germany? Because I looked at a few Grundschule in Bavaria on Google maps and didn’t see any.\n
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          You’ll have a hard time finding a village with *literally* one single road. Certainly not one 1-2k which is the size that gets the school for the surrounding ones.\n
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          > It is cheaper and more convenient to have a speed camera that is active only during school hours.\n
          \n
          And also completely ineffective at preventing anything.Heck at least use road bumps. Narrow the road only in spots so that two monster trucks if you please fit on comfortably side by side for 50-100m or such, but then it narrows down to half that for just 5m. While you’re at it build a crossing there, narrowing the roads at pedestrian crossing is standard practice in many places and it makes a hell a lot of sense. Yes, that slows down traffic because you might have to negotiate with oncoming traffic who goes first. Yes, that’s precisely the point.
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          > Schools have more than one bus and they have to pass each other.\n
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          No they don’t they can enter from the same side. You’re just looking for excuses. Also why do you need buses in the first place why aren’t the kids walking or biking.
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          Why can’t you have one-way streets in a rural area? Fork off the main street on one end, merge on the other. Pedestrian and bicycle traffic can be bidirectional, cars can take a little detour they don’t use muscle energy.\n
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          > > Wide enough for one pickup and no opposing traffic, but so narrow that two pickups are going to really have to negotiate to move around each other."\n
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          How does that translate to "block the street for buses? If a street fits two pickups it fits two buses. They’ll have to negotiate to move around each other so if you have many (which, as I told you a lot, you shouldn’t) you should consider a one-way road, or maybe a meeting bay, or a wider street with choke points, or whatever. But it’s not “blocking the road for buses”.
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        +body: "[Relevant Not Just Bikes](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bglWCuCMSWc)."
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          Not an issue in Europe. Though granted the US would probably need to replace their fire trucks with sanely-sized ones. You also don’t need to haul a big-ass ladder in a low-density area what’s your plan use it to do a header into a suburban pool.\n
          \n
          Regarding response time absence of gridlock will be more important than the last hundred metres on a residential street, consider investing in public transportation, walkable cities, and generally everything that abolishes owning and using a car being mandatory.
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          > A block in the US doesn’t mean a square either.\n
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          Yes, great, blame a non native speaker for expressing himself incorrectly, correcting himself, and then quadruple down on it. I was thinking of unprioritised NY-style blocks you see all over the place in US cities, gridlock magnets. You know, places where people say “down the block” and generally measure distances in blocks.\n
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          > It is required that children do not cross two lane roads to be picked up by school buses. I don’t make the rules. I don’t have a solution to US car culture. But making roads unpassable by school buses isn’t an answer.\n
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          If you look back at that Hamburg link, at those streets internal to the superblock, you’ll notice that they *are* wide enough for buses to go through. There’s no regular bus lines through there (there’s two metro stations and plenty of bus stops surrounding it) but a school bus isn’t regular service, it doesn’t need to play by the same rules. You can make a pickup at one of those very spacious intersections. It’s not being done because there’s schools in walking distance and German kids can cross roads but it *could* be done. Would you, however, ever speed on those roads.
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          US suburbia has a higher density than the German countryside, having to travel 24km is nuts. That’d be defensible if you live in a tiny settlement 24km from a place with more than two dozen houses – I’m sure those exist in the US but suburbia isn’t that.\n
          \n
          How many pupils were there at your school? My state has 106240 pupils in 393 primary schools, that’s an average of 270. Minimum size under ordinary circumstances is 80, the smallest is on Nordstrandischmoor: An island, 18 inhabitants, five families, one school, one teacher, two students, [here it is](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.5518864,8.8108853,16z?entry=ttu). That’s because we don’t do boarding in primary education so there’s a maximum tolerable commute time/distance, once those kids are old enough they’ll spend Monday through Friday on the mainland.\n
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          If your system insists that a school have at least 2k students or such then, yes, of course, walking to school will be an impossibility for most. Fix your school sizes and like 99% of students will be able to walk or bike, use buses or minivans or whatnot for the rest we do that too (not really possible in Nordstrandischmoor, thing doesn’t even have a ferry but a rail link that’s only usable when the tide is low).\n
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          And no it wasn’t my school it was my Kindergarten, which wasn’t, by a long shot, the closest to home it was the one my parents chose. I mentioned it to say that biking 3.5km is something a 4yold can do, physically, without any issue at all really.
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          > Roads are typically 2 lanes one in each direction. You already know this because you said a solution would be to remove the lane marker.\n
          \n
          I’m someone else.\n
          \n
          > So you have a road with an elementary school, and 2 miles further down is a middle school. Even without that you have buses passing each other during pickup because busses only pickup kids on one side of the street so you don’t have young kids crossing roads.\n
          \n
          Lots of questions here: Why can’t kids walk 500m to the next bus stop? Why are streets so unsafe so that kids can’t cross them?\n
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          Why assume that there’s no larger road in between those smaller roads? Roads generally form a hierarchy, you have big ones feeding into middle ones feeding into small ones. Small ones should absolutely be safe to cross, also without explicit crossings, because they’re traffic calmed and don’t have much traffic in the first place. That’s where houses and schools are, where there’s no through-traffic because even if they aren’t cul de sacs who would drive through a road you can’t drive fast on when there’s a mid-level road that you could take.\n
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          > What do you call a section of inner city bounded on all sides by a road in your country?\n
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          Straßenblock. Let me put it differently: We don’t have grids and nothing is regular. [This is about as grid-y as it gets](https://www.google.com/maps/@53.5753832,9.9851206,1090m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) and if you zoom in you’ll notice that the interior streets have no lane markers and some even are cobbled. Those connect to a street ( south, Hallerstraße) with bike lanes (don’t need those on smaller streets because there’s not enough traffic to warrant them), which connects to a four-lane (plus bus lane) street, Grindelalle, west. The intersection looks a bit crazy but it’s actually safe for pedestrians and you should’ve learned how to cross streets safely and what traffic lights are in Kindergarten. You’ve also been there with your parents (going shopping or whatever) a lot of times, nothing scary really. That kind of density and housing is probably illegal to build where you are (it’s illegal pretty much everywhere in the US and Canada).\n
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          And mind you Hamburg is awful when it comes to urbanism, way too car-centric. Not because of lack of public transport but because politicians are unwilling to kill off car traffic and the whole city is full of rich fucks with too much disposable income.
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          Let me look at a map… maybe 1km max anywhere in my 30k town to the next primary school and that’s when you’re living on the very very edge of town. Should be under 500m for most pupils.\n
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          If you’re living in a rural area, outside of the next village (which will have a school), which is an absolute exception as things tend to cluster into villages in rural areas, it might be 5km. Not really an issue with a bike, I biked what 3.5km to Kindergarten (together with my mom). If you have less density than that you probably should have boarding schools.\n
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    Things aren’t done differently, in principle, in villages. You were the one brining up blocks or did you mean “buildings surrounded by roads *and fields*”.\n
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    [This is Wacken](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.0275469,9.3755654,169m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) (*the* Wacken), I zoomed you in on the primary school. There’s surrounding villages without school so it’s bound to get bus traffic. Note how it’s on a street that’s wide enough for that, but not the main road, the one with all the through-traffic. Can you understand that principle. (Main Roads, actually, Wacken has two, Schenefelder and Hauptstraße).\n
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    > I only took issue with the ridiculous idea that the roads in front of rural US schools could be made safer by making them impassable by busses.\n
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    Noone ever said that? At least I didn’t.
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          > You have one bus going in one direction to a school passing another bus going to another school.\n
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          In front of a school? Are your schools connected directly to highways or something?\n
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          > Have you only lived in an inner city where roads can be one way because they alternate in direction every block?\n
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          > Cost. That separate road means buying land from someone and turning it into road. Do they have one way roads for rural schools in Germany? Because I looked at a few Grundschule in Bavaria on Google maps and didn’t see any.\n
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          You’ll have a hard time finding a village with *literally* one single road. Certainly not one 1-2k which is the size that gets the school for the surrounding ones.\n
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          > Schools have more than one bus and they have to pass each other.\n
          \n
          No they don’t they can enter from the same side. You’re just looking for excuses. Also why do you need buses in the first place why aren’t the kids walking or biking.
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          Why can’t you have one-way streets in a rural area? Fork off the main street on one end, merge on the other. Pedestrian and bicycle traffic can be bidirectional, cars can take a little detour they don’t use muscle energy.\n
          \n
          > > Wide enough for one pickup and no opposing traffic, but so narrow that two pickups are going to really have to negotiate to move around each other."\n
          \n
          How does that translate to "block the street for buses? If a street fits two pickups it fits two buses. They’ll have to negotiate to move around each other so if you have many (which, as I told you a lot, you shouldn’t) you should consider a one-way road, or maybe a meeting bay, or a wider street with choke points, or whatever. But it’s not “blocking the road for buses”.
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        +body: "[Relevant Not Just Bikes](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bglWCuCMSWc)."
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          Not an issue in Europe. Though granted the US would probably need to replace their fire trucks with sanely-sized ones. You also don’t need to haul a big-ass ladder in a low-density area what’s your plan use it to do a header into a suburban pool.\n
          \n
          Regarding response time absence of gridlock will be more important than the last hundred metres on a residential street, consider investing in public transportation, walkable cities, and generally everything that abolishes owning and using a car being mandatory.
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          > A block in the US doesn’t mean a square either.\n
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          Yes, great, blame a non native speaker for expressing himself incorrectly, correcting himself, and then quadruple down on it. I was thinking of unprioritised NY-style blocks you see all over the place in US cities, gridlock magnets. You know, places where people say “down the block” and generally measure distances in blocks.\n
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          > It is required that children do not cross two lane roads to be picked up by school buses. I don’t make the rules. I don’t have a solution to US car culture. But making roads unpassable by school buses isn’t an answer.\n
          \n
          If you look back at that Hamburg link, at those streets internal to the superblock, you’ll notice that they *are* wide enough for buses to go through. There’s no regular bus lines through there (there’s two metro stations and plenty of bus stops surrounding it) but a school bus isn’t regular service, it doesn’t need to play by the same rules. You can make a pickup at one of those very spacious intersections. It’s not being done because there’s schools in walking distance and German kids can cross roads but it *could* be done. Would you, however, ever speed on those roads.
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          US suburbia has a higher density than the German countryside, having to travel 24km is nuts. That’d be defensible if you live in a tiny settlement 24km from a place with more than two dozen houses – I’m sure those exist in the US but suburbia isn’t that.\n
          \n
          How many pupils were there at your school? My state has 106240 pupils in 393 primary schools, that’s an average of 270. Minimum size under ordinary circumstances is 80, the smallest is on Nordstrandischmoor: An island, 18 inhabitants, five families, one school, one teacher, two students, [here it is](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.5518864,8.8108853,16z?entry=ttu). That’s because we don’t do boarding in primary education so there’s a maximum tolerable commute time/distance, once those kids are old enough they’ll spend Monday through Friday on the mainland.\n
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          If your system insists that a school have at least 2k students or such then, yes, of course, walking to school will be an impossibility for most. Fix your school sizes and like 99% of students will be able to walk or bike, use buses or minivans or whatnot for the rest we do that too (not really possible in Nordstrandischmoor, thing doesn’t even have a ferry but a rail link that’s only usable when the tide is low).\n
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          And no it wasn’t my school it was my Kindergarten, which wasn’t, by a long shot, the closest to home it was the one my parents chose. I mentioned it to say that biking 3.5km is something a 4yold can do, physically, without any issue at all really.
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          > Roads are typically 2 lanes one in each direction. You already know this because you said a solution would be to remove the lane marker.\n
          \n
          I’m someone else.\n
          \n
          > So you have a road with an elementary school, and 2 miles further down is a middle school. Even without that you have buses passing each other during pickup because busses only pickup kids on one side of the street so you don’t have young kids crossing roads.\n
          \n
          Lots of questions here: Why can’t kids walk 500m to the next bus stop? Why are streets so unsafe so that kids can’t cross them?\n
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          Why assume that there’s no larger road in between those smaller roads? Roads generally form a hierarchy, you have big ones feeding into middle ones feeding into small ones. Small ones should absolutely be safe to cross, also without explicit crossings, because they’re traffic calmed and don’t have much traffic in the first place. That’s where houses and schools are, where there’s no through-traffic because even if they aren’t cul de sacs who would drive through a road you can’t drive fast on when there’s a mid-level road that you could take.\n
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          > What do you call a section of inner city bounded on all sides by a road in your country?\n
          \n
          Straßenblock. Let me put it differently: We don’t have grids and nothing is regular. [This is about as grid-y as it gets](https://www.google.com/maps/@53.5753832,9.9851206,1090m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) and if you zoom in you’ll notice that the interior streets have no lane markers and some even are cobbled. Those connect to a street ( south, Hallerstraße) with bike lanes (don’t need those on smaller streets because there’s not enough traffic to warrant them), which connects to a four-lane (plus bus lane) street, Grindelalle, west. The intersection looks a bit crazy but it’s actually safe for pedestrians and you should’ve learned how to cross streets safely and what traffic lights are in Kindergarten. You’ve also been there with your parents (going shopping or whatever) a lot of times, nothing scary really. That kind of density and housing is probably illegal to build where you are (it’s illegal pretty much everywhere in the US and Canada).\n
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          And mind you Hamburg is awful when it comes to urbanism, way too car-centric. Not because of lack of public transport but because politicians are unwilling to kill off car traffic and the whole city is full of rich fucks with too much disposable income.
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          Let me look at a map… maybe 1km max anywhere in my 30k town to the next primary school and that’s when you’re living on the very very edge of town. Should be under 500m for most pupils.\n
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          If you’re living in a rural area, outside of the next village (which will have a school), which is an absolute exception as things tend to cluster into villages in rural areas, it might be 5km. Not really an issue with a bike, I biked what 3.5km to Kindergarten (together with my mom). If you have less density than that you probably should have boarding schools.\n
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          For secondary education, if you’re living in a village you’ll probably have to take the bus to the nearest city. Regular public transport though the schedule will take school times into account. Yes, kids can walk 500m to the nearest station.\n
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          Bonus: All that school density – smaller but way more of them – means that there’s obvious places to hold elections as there’s a municipality-owned place in Sunday stroll distance to pretty much everywhere. The only downside are the ludicrously low tables.
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    Things aren’t done differently, in principle, in villages. You were the one brining up blocks or did you mean “buildings surrounded by roads *and fields*”.\n
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    [This is Wacken](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.0275469,9.3755654,169m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) (*the* Wacken), I zoomed you in on the primary school. There’s surrounding villages without school so it’s bound to get bus traffic. Note how it’s on a street that’s wide enough for that, but not the main road, the one with all the through-traffic. Can you understand that principle. (Main Roads, actually, Wacken has two, Schenefelder and Hauptstraße).\n
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    > I only took issue with the ridiculous idea that the roads in front of rural US schools could be made safer by making them impassable by busses.\n
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    Noone ever said that? At least I didn’t.
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      EDIT: since apparently a bunch of people woke up with the wrong foot this morning or forgot to check the group they’re in:\n
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          > You have one bus going in one direction to a school passing another bus going to another school.\n
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          In front of a school? Are your schools connected directly to highways or something?\n
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          > Have you only lived in an inner city where roads can be one way because they alternate in direction every block?\n
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          We don’t have blocks.
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          > Cost. That separate road means buying land from someone and turning it into road. Do they have one way roads for rural schools in Germany? Because I looked at a few Grundschule in Bavaria on Google maps and didn’t see any.\n
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          You’ll have a hard time finding a village with *literally* one single road. Certainly not one 1-2k which is the size that gets the school for the surrounding ones.\n
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          > Schools have more than one bus and they have to pass each other.\n
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          Why can’t you have one-way streets in a rural area? Fork off the main street on one end, merge on the other. Pedestrian and bicycle traffic can be bidirectional, cars can take a little detour they don’t use muscle energy.\n
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          > > Wide enough for one pickup and no opposing traffic, but so narrow that two pickups are going to really have to negotiate to move around each other."\n
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          How does that translate to "block the street for buses? If a street fits two pickups it fits two buses. They’ll have to negotiate to move around each other so if you have many (which, as I told you a lot, you shouldn’t) you should consider a one-way road, or maybe a meeting bay, or a wider street with choke points, or whatever. But it’s not “blocking the road for buses”.
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        +body: "[Relevant Not Just Bikes](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bglWCuCMSWc)."
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          Not an issue in Europe. Though granted the US would probably need to replace their fire trucks with sanely-sized ones. You also don’t need to haul a big-ass ladder in a low-density area what’s your plan use it to do a header into a suburban pool.\n
          \n
          Regarding response time absence of gridlock will be more important than the last hundred metres on a residential street, consider investing in public transportation, walkable cities, and generally everything that abolishes owning and using a car being mandatory.
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          Things aren’t done differently, in principle, in villages. You were the one brining up blocks or did you mean “buildings surrounded by roads *and fields*”.\n
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          [This is Wacken](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.0275469,9.3755654,169m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) (*the* Wacken), I zoomed you in on the primary school. There’s surrounding villages without school so it’s bound to get bus traffic. Note how it’s on a street that’s wide enough for that, but not the main road, the one with all the through-traffic. Can you understand that principle. (Main Roads, actually, Wacken has two, Schenefelder and Hauptstraße).\n
          \n
          > I only took issue with the ridiculous idea that the roads in front of rural US schools could be made safer by making them impassable by busses.\n
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          Noone ever said that? At least I didn’t.
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          US suburbia has a higher density than the German countryside, having to travel 24km is nuts. That’d be defensible if you live in a tiny settlement 24km from a place with more than two dozen houses – I’m sure those exist in the US but suburbia isn’t that.\n
          \n
          How many pupils were there at your school? My state has 106240 pupils in 393 primary schools, that’s an average of 270. Minimum size under ordinary circumstances is 80, the smallest is on Nordstrandischmoor: An island, 18 inhabitants, five families, one school, one teacher, two students, [here it is](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.5518864,8.8108853,16z?entry=ttu). That’s because we don’t do boarding in primary education so there’s a maximum tolerable commute time/distance, once those kids are old enough they’ll spend Monday through Friday on the mainland.\n
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          If your system insists that a school have at least 2k students or such then, yes, of course, walking to school will be an impossibility for most. Fix your school sizes and like 99% of students will be able to walk or bike, use buses or minivans or whatnot for the rest we do that too (not really possible in Nordstrandischmoor, thing doesn’t even have a ferry but a rail link that’s only usable when the tide is low).\n
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          And no it wasn’t my school it was my Kindergarten, which wasn’t, by a long shot, the closest to home it was the one my parents chose. I mentioned it to say that biking 3.5km is something a 4yold can do, physically, without any issue at all really.
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          > Roads are typically 2 lanes one in each direction. You already know this because you said a solution would be to remove the lane marker.\n
          \n
          I’m someone else.\n
          \n
          > So you have a road with an elementary school, and 2 miles further down is a middle school. Even without that you have buses passing each other during pickup because busses only pickup kids on one side of the street so you don’t have young kids crossing roads.\n
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          Lots of questions here: Why can’t kids walk 500m to the next bus stop? Why are streets so unsafe so that kids can’t cross them?\n
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          Why assume that there’s no larger road in between those smaller roads? Roads generally form a hierarchy, you have big ones feeding into middle ones feeding into small ones. Small ones should absolutely be safe to cross, also without explicit crossings, because they’re traffic calmed and don’t have much traffic in the first place. That’s where houses and schools are, where there’s no through-traffic because even if they aren’t cul de sacs who would drive through a road you can’t drive fast on when there’s a mid-level road that you could take.\n
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          > What do you call a section of inner city bounded on all sides by a road in your country?\n
          \n
          Straßenblock. Let me put it differently: We don’t have grids and nothing is regular. [This is about as grid-y as it gets](https://www.google.com/maps/@53.5753832,9.9851206,1090m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) and if you zoom in you’ll notice that the interior streets have no lane markers and some even are cobbled. Those connect to a street ( south, Hallerstraße) with bike lanes (don’t need those on smaller streets because there’s not enough traffic to warrant them), which connects to a four-lane (plus bus lane) street, Grindelalle, west. The intersection looks a bit crazy but it’s actually safe for pedestrians and you should’ve learned how to cross streets safely and what traffic lights are in Kindergarten. You’ve also been there with your parents (going shopping or whatever) a lot of times, nothing scary really. That kind of density and housing is probably illegal to build where you are (it’s illegal pretty much everywhere in the US and Canada).\n
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          And mind you Hamburg is awful when it comes to urbanism, way too car-centric. Not because of lack of public transport but because politicians are unwilling to kill off car traffic and the whole city is full of rich fucks with too much disposable income.
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          Let me look at a map… maybe 1km max anywhere in my 30k town to the next primary school and that’s when you’re living on the very very edge of town. Should be under 500m for most pupils.\n
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          If you’re living in a rural area, outside of the next village (which will have a school), which is an absolute exception as things tend to cluster into villages in rural areas, it might be 5km. Not really an issue with a bike, I biked what 3.5km to Kindergarten (together with my mom). If you have less density than that you probably should have boarding schools.\n
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          For secondary education, if you’re living in a village you’ll probably have to take the bus to the nearest city. Regular public transport though the schedule will take school times into account. Yes, kids can walk 500m to the nearest station.\n
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          Bonus: All that school density – smaller but way more of them – means that there’s obvious places to hold elections as there’s a municipality-owned place in Sunday stroll distance to pretty much everywhere. The only downside are the ludicrously low tables.
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    > A block in the US doesn’t mean a square either.\n
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    Yes, great, blame a non native speaker for expressing himself incorrectly, correcting himself, and then quadruple down on it. I was thinking of unprioritised NY-style blocks you see all over the place in US cities, gridlock magnets. You know, places where people say “down the block” and generally measure distances in blocks.\n
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    > It is required that children do not cross two lane roads to be picked up by school buses. I don’t make the rules. I don’t have a solution to US car culture. But making roads unpassable by school buses isn’t an answer.\n
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    If you look back at that Hamburg link, at those streets internal to the superblock, you’ll notice that they *are* wide enough for buses to go through. There’s no regular bus lines through there (there’s two metro stations and plenty of bus stops surrounding it) but a school bus isn’t regular service, it doesn’t need to play by the same rules. You can make a pickup at one of those very spacious intersections. It’s not being done because there’s schools in walking distance and German kids can cross roads but it *could* be done. Would you, however, ever speed on those roads.
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      EDIT: since apparently a bunch of people woke up with the wrong foot this morning or forgot to check the group they’re in:\n
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      This is a joke. Do not steal or vandalize speed enforcement cameras (or anything else for that matter). That’s against the law and you will likely get arrested.\n
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      If you’re addicted to crack or any other drugs, please seek professional help.
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          > You have one bus going in one direction to a school passing another bus going to another school.\n
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          In front of a school? Are your schools connected directly to highways or something?\n
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          > Have you only lived in an inner city where roads can be one way because they alternate in direction every block?\n
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          We don’t have blocks.
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          > Cost. That separate road means buying land from someone and turning it into road. Do they have one way roads for rural schools in Germany? Because I looked at a few Grundschule in Bavaria on Google maps and didn’t see any.\n
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          You’ll have a hard time finding a village with *literally* one single road. Certainly not one 1-2k which is the size that gets the school for the surrounding ones.\n
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          > It is cheaper and more convenient to have a speed camera that is active only during school hours.\n
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          And also completely ineffective at preventing anything.Heck at least use road bumps. Narrow the road only in spots so that two monster trucks if you please fit on comfortably side by side for 50-100m or such, but then it narrows down to half that for just 5m. While you’re at it build a crossing there, narrowing the roads at pedestrian crossing is standard practice in many places and it makes a hell a lot of sense. Yes, that slows down traffic because you might have to negotiate with oncoming traffic who goes first. Yes, that’s precisely the point.
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          > Schools have more than one bus and they have to pass each other.\n
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          No they don’t they can enter from the same side. You’re just looking for excuses. Also why do you need buses in the first place why aren’t the kids walking or biking.
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          Why can’t you have one-way streets in a rural area? Fork off the main street on one end, merge on the other. Pedestrian and bicycle traffic can be bidirectional, cars can take a little detour they don’t use muscle energy.\n
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          > > Wide enough for one pickup and no opposing traffic, but so narrow that two pickups are going to really have to negotiate to move around each other."\n
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          How does that translate to "block the street for buses? If a street fits two pickups it fits two buses. They’ll have to negotiate to move around each other so if you have many (which, as I told you a lot, you shouldn’t) you should consider a one-way road, or maybe a meeting bay, or a wider street with choke points, or whatever. But it’s not “blocking the road for buses”.
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        +body: "[Relevant Not Just Bikes](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bglWCuCMSWc)."
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          Not an issue in Europe. Though granted the US would probably need to replace their fire trucks with sanely-sized ones. You also don’t need to haul a big-ass ladder in a low-density area what’s your plan use it to do a header into a suburban pool.\n
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          Regarding response time absence of gridlock will be more important than the last hundred metres on a residential street, consider investing in public transportation, walkable cities, and generally everything that abolishes owning and using a car being mandatory.
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          Things aren’t done differently, in principle, in villages. You were the one brining up blocks or did you mean “buildings surrounded by roads *and fields*”.\n
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          [This is Wacken](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.0275469,9.3755654,169m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) (*the* Wacken), I zoomed you in on the primary school. There’s surrounding villages without school so it’s bound to get bus traffic. Note how it’s on a street that’s wide enough for that, but not the main road, the one with all the through-traffic. Can you understand that principle. (Main Roads, actually, Wacken has two, Schenefelder and Hauptstraße).\n
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          > I only took issue with the ridiculous idea that the roads in front of rural US schools could be made safer by making them impassable by busses.\n
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          Noone ever said that? At least I didn’t.
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          US suburbia has a higher density than the German countryside, having to travel 24km is nuts. That’d be defensible if you live in a tiny settlement 24km from a place with more than two dozen houses – I’m sure those exist in the US but suburbia isn’t that.\n
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          How many pupils were there at your school? My state has 106240 pupils in 393 primary schools, that’s an average of 270. Minimum size under ordinary circumstances is 80, the smallest is on Nordstrandischmoor: An island, 18 inhabitants, five families, one school, one teacher, two students, [here it is](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.5518864,8.8108853,16z?entry=ttu). That’s because we don’t do boarding in primary education so there’s a maximum tolerable commute time/distance, once those kids are old enough they’ll spend Monday through Friday on the mainland.\n
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          If your system insists that a school have at least 2k students or such then, yes, of course, walking to school will be an impossibility for most. Fix your school sizes and like 99% of students will be able to walk or bike, use buses or minivans or whatnot for the rest we do that too (not really possible in Nordstrandischmoor, thing doesn’t even have a ferry but a rail link that’s only usable when the tide is low).\n
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          And no it wasn’t my school it was my Kindergarten, which wasn’t, by a long shot, the closest to home it was the one my parents chose. I mentioned it to say that biking 3.5km is something a 4yold can do, physically, without any issue at all really.
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          > Roads are typically 2 lanes one in each direction. You already know this because you said a solution would be to remove the lane marker.\n
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          I’m someone else.\n
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          > So you have a road with an elementary school, and 2 miles further down is a middle school. Even without that you have buses passing each other during pickup because busses only pickup kids on one side of the street so you don’t have young kids crossing roads.\n
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          Lots of questions here: Why can’t kids walk 500m to the next bus stop? Why are streets so unsafe so that kids can’t cross them?\n
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          Why assume that there’s no larger road in between those smaller roads? Roads generally form a hierarchy, you have big ones feeding into middle ones feeding into small ones. Small ones should absolutely be safe to cross, also without explicit crossings, because they’re traffic calmed and don’t have much traffic in the first place. That’s where houses and schools are, where there’s no through-traffic because even if they aren’t cul de sacs who would drive through a road you can’t drive fast on when there’s a mid-level road that you could take.\n
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          > What do you call a section of inner city bounded on all sides by a road in your country?\n
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          Straßenblock. Let me put it differently: We don’t have grids and nothing is regular. [This is about as grid-y as it gets](https://www.google.com/maps/@53.5753832,9.9851206,1090m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) and if you zoom in you’ll notice that the interior streets have no lane markers and some even are cobbled. Those connect to a street ( south, Hallerstraße) with bike lanes (don’t need those on smaller streets because there’s not enough traffic to warrant them), which connects to a four-lane (plus bus lane) street, Grindelalle, west. The intersection looks a bit crazy but it’s actually safe for pedestrians and you should’ve learned how to cross streets safely and what traffic lights are in Kindergarten. You’ve also been there with your parents (going shopping or whatever) a lot of times, nothing scary really. That kind of density and housing is probably illegal to build where you are (it’s illegal pretty much everywhere in the US and Canada).\n
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          And mind you Hamburg is awful when it comes to urbanism, way too car-centric. Not because of lack of public transport but because politicians are unwilling to kill off car traffic and the whole city is full of rich fucks with too much disposable income.
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          Let me look at a map… maybe 1km max anywhere in my 30k town to the next primary school and that’s when you’re living on the very very edge of town. Should be under 500m for most pupils.\n
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          If you’re living in a rural area, outside of the next village (which will have a school), which is an absolute exception as things tend to cluster into villages in rural areas, it might be 5km. Not really an issue with a bike, I biked what 3.5km to Kindergarten (together with my mom). If you have less density than that you probably should have boarding schools.\n
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          For secondary education, if you’re living in a village you’ll probably have to take the bus to the nearest city. Regular public transport though the schedule will take school times into account. Yes, kids can walk 500m to the nearest station.\n
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          Bonus: All that school density – smaller but way more of them – means that there’s obvious places to hold elections as there’s a municipality-owned place in Sunday stroll distance to pretty much everywhere. The only downside are the ludicrously low tables.
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    > A block in the US doesn’t mean a square either.\n
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    Yes, great, blame a non native speaker for expressing himself incorrectly, correcting himself, and then quadruple down on it. I was thinking of unprioritised NY-style blocks you see all over the place in US cities, gridlock magnets. You know, places where people say “down the block” and generally measure distances in blocks.\n
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    > It is required that children do not cross two lane roads to be picked up by school buses. I don’t make the rules. I don’t have a solution to US car culture. But making roads unpassable by school buses isn’t an answer.\n
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    If you look back at that Hamburg link, at those streets internal to the superblock, you’ll notice that they *are* wide enough for buses to go through. There’s no regular bus lines through there (there’s two metro stations and plenty of bus stops surrounding it) but a school bus isn’t regular service, it doesn’t need to play by the same rules. You can make a pickup at one of those very spacious intersections. It’s not being done because there’s schools in walking distance and German kids can cross roads but it *could* be done. Would you, however, ever speed on those roads.
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      EDIT: since apparently a bunch of people woke up with the wrong foot this morning or forgot to check the group they’re in:\n
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      If you’re addicted to crack or any other drugs, please seek professional help.
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          > You have one bus going in one direction to a school passing another bus going to another school.\n
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          In front of a school? Are your schools connected directly to highways or something?\n
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          > Have you only lived in an inner city where roads can be one way because they alternate in direction every block?\n
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          We don’t have blocks.
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          > Cost. That separate road means buying land from someone and turning it into road. Do they have one way roads for rural schools in Germany? Because I looked at a few Grundschule in Bavaria on Google maps and didn’t see any.\n
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          You’ll have a hard time finding a village with *literally* one single road. Certainly not one 1-2k which is the size that gets the school for the surrounding ones.\n
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          > It is cheaper and more convenient to have a speed camera that is active only during school hours.\n
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          And also completely ineffective at preventing anything.Heck at least use road bumps. Narrow the road only in spots so that two monster trucks if you please fit on comfortably side by side for 50-100m or such, but then it narrows down to half that for just 5m. While you’re at it build a crossing there, narrowing the roads at pedestrian crossing is standard practice in many places and it makes a hell a lot of sense. Yes, that slows down traffic because you might have to negotiate with oncoming traffic who goes first. Yes, that’s precisely the point.
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          > Schools have more than one bus and they have to pass each other.\n
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          No they don’t they can enter from the same side. You’re just looking for excuses. Also why do you need buses in the first place why aren’t the kids walking or biking.
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          Why can’t you have one-way streets in a rural area? Fork off the main street on one end, merge on the other. Pedestrian and bicycle traffic can be bidirectional, cars can take a little detour they don’t use muscle energy.\n
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          > > Wide enough for one pickup and no opposing traffic, but so narrow that two pickups are going to really have to negotiate to move around each other."\n
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          How does that translate to "block the street for buses? If a street fits two pickups it fits two buses. They’ll have to negotiate to move around each other so if you have many (which, as I told you a lot, you shouldn’t) you should consider a one-way road, or maybe a meeting bay, or a wider street with choke points, or whatever. But it’s not “blocking the road for buses”.
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        +body: "[Relevant Not Just Bikes](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bglWCuCMSWc)."
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          Not an issue in Europe. Though granted the US would probably need to replace their fire trucks with sanely-sized ones. You also don’t need to haul a big-ass ladder in a low-density area what’s your plan use it to do a header into a suburban pool.\n
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          Regarding response time absence of gridlock will be more important than the last hundred metres on a residential street, consider investing in public transportation, walkable cities, and generally everything that abolishes owning and using a car being mandatory.
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          Things aren’t done differently, in principle, in villages. You were the one brining up blocks or did you mean “buildings surrounded by roads *and fields*”.\n
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          [This is Wacken](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.0275469,9.3755654,169m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) (*the* Wacken), I zoomed you in on the primary school. There’s surrounding villages without school so it’s bound to get bus traffic. Note how it’s on a street that’s wide enough for that, but not the main road, the one with all the through-traffic. Can you understand that principle. (Main Roads, actually, Wacken has two, Schenefelder and Hauptstraße).\n
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          > I only took issue with the ridiculous idea that the roads in front of rural US schools could be made safer by making them impassable by busses.\n
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          Noone ever said that? At least I didn’t.
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          US suburbia has a higher density than the German countryside, having to travel 24km is nuts. That’d be defensible if you live in a tiny settlement 24km from a place with more than two dozen houses – I’m sure those exist in the US but suburbia isn’t that.\n
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          How many pupils were there at your school? My state has 106240 pupils in 393 primary schools, that’s an average of 270. Minimum size under ordinary circumstances is 80, the smallest is on Nordstrandischmoor: An island, 18 inhabitants, five families, one school, one teacher, two students, [here it is](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.5518864,8.8108853,16z?entry=ttu). That’s because we don’t do boarding in primary education so there’s a maximum tolerable commute time/distance, once those kids are old enough they’ll spend Monday through Friday on the mainland.\n
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          If your system insists that a school have at least 2k students or such then, yes, of course, walking to school will be an impossibility for most. Fix your school sizes and like 99% of students will be able to walk or bike, use buses or minivans or whatnot for the rest we do that too (not really possible in Nordstrandischmoor, thing doesn’t even have a ferry but a rail link that’s only usable when the tide is low).\n
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          And no it wasn’t my school it was my Kindergarten, which wasn’t, by a long shot, the closest to home it was the one my parents chose. I mentioned it to say that biking 3.5km is something a 4yold can do, physically, without any issue at all really.
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          > Roads are typically 2 lanes one in each direction. You already know this because you said a solution would be to remove the lane marker.\n
          \n
          I’m someone else.\n
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          > So you have a road with an elementary school, and 2 miles further down is a middle school. Even without that you have buses passing each other during pickup because busses only pickup kids on one side of the street so you don’t have young kids crossing roads.\n
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          Lots of questions here: Why can’t kids walk 500m to the next bus stop? Why are streets so unsafe so that kids can’t cross them?\n
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          Why assume that there’s no larger road in between those smaller roads? Roads generally form a hierarchy, you have big ones feeding into middle ones feeding into small ones. Small ones should absolutely be safe to cross, also without explicit crossings, because they’re traffic calmed and don’t have much traffic in the first place. That’s where houses and schools are, where there’s no through-traffic because even if they aren’t cul de sacs who would drive through a road you can’t drive fast on when there’s a mid-level road that you could take.\n
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          > What do you call a section of inner city bounded on all sides by a road in your country?\n
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          Straßenblock. Let me put it differently: We don’t have grids and nothing is regular. [This is about as grid-y as it gets](https://www.google.com/maps/@53.5753832,9.9851206,1090m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) and if you zoom in you’ll notice that the interior streets have no lane markers and some even are cobbled. Those connect to a street ( south, Hallerstraße) with bike lanes (don’t need those on smaller streets because there’s not enough traffic to warrant them), which connects to a four-lane (plus bus lane) street, Grindelalle, west. The intersection looks a bit crazy but it’s actually safe for pedestrians and you should’ve learned how to cross streets safely and what traffic lights are in Kindergarten. You’ve also been there with your parents (going shopping or whatever) a lot of times, nothing scary really. That kind of density and housing is probably illegal to build where you are (it’s illegal pretty much everywhere in the US and Canada).\n
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          And mind you Hamburg is awful when it comes to urbanism, way too car-centric. Not because of lack of public transport but because politicians are unwilling to kill off car traffic and the whole city is full of rich fucks with too much disposable income.
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          Let me look at a map… maybe 1km max anywhere in my 30k town to the next primary school and that’s when you’re living on the very very edge of town. Should be under 500m for most pupils.\n
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          If you’re living in a rural area, outside of the next village (which will have a school), which is an absolute exception as things tend to cluster into villages in rural areas, it might be 5km. Not really an issue with a bike, I biked what 3.5km to Kindergarten (together with my mom). If you have less density than that you probably should have boarding schools.\n
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          For secondary education, if you’re living in a village you’ll probably have to take the bus to the nearest city. Regular public transport though the schedule will take school times into account. Yes, kids can walk 500m to the nearest station.\n
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          Bonus: All that school density – smaller but way more of them – means that there’s obvious places to hold elections as there’s a municipality-owned place in Sunday stroll distance to pretty much everywhere. The only downside are the ludicrously low tables.
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    > A block in the US doesn’t mean a square either.\n
    \n
    Yes, great, blame a non native speaker for expressing himself incorrectly, correcting himself, and then quadruple down on it. I was thinking of unprioritised NY-style blocks you see all over the place in US cities, gridlock magnets. You know, places where people say “down the block” and generally measure distances in blocks.\n
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    > It is required that children do not cross two lane roads to be picked up by school buses. I don’t make the rules. I don’t have a solution to US car culture. But making roads unpassable by school buses isn’t an answer.\n
    \n
    If you look back at that Hamburg link, at those streets internal to the superblock, you’ll notice that they *are* wide enough for buses to go through. There’s no regular bus lines through there (there’s two metro stations and plenty of bus stops surrounding it) but a school bus isn’t regular service, it doesn’t need to play by the same rules. You can make a pickup at one of those very spacious intersections. It’s not being done because there’s schools in walking distance and German kids can cross roads but it *could* be done. Would you, however, ever speed on those roads.
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      EDIT: since apparently a bunch of people woke up with the wrong foot this morning or forgot to check the group they’re in:\n
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      If you’re addicted to crack or any other drugs, please seek professional help.
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          > You have one bus going in one direction to a school passing another bus going to another school.\n
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          In front of a school? Are your schools connected directly to highways or something?\n
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          > Have you only lived in an inner city where roads can be one way because they alternate in direction every block?\n
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          We don’t have blocks.
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          > Cost. That separate road means buying land from someone and turning it into road. Do they have one way roads for rural schools in Germany? Because I looked at a few Grundschule in Bavaria on Google maps and didn’t see any.\n
          \n
          You’ll have a hard time finding a village with *literally* one single road. Certainly not one 1-2k which is the size that gets the school for the surrounding ones.\n
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          > It is cheaper and more convenient to have a speed camera that is active only during school hours.\n
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          And also completely ineffective at preventing anything.Heck at least use road bumps. Narrow the road only in spots so that two monster trucks if you please fit on comfortably side by side for 50-100m or such, but then it narrows down to half that for just 5m. While you’re at it build a crossing there, narrowing the roads at pedestrian crossing is standard practice in many places and it makes a hell a lot of sense. Yes, that slows down traffic because you might have to negotiate with oncoming traffic who goes first. Yes, that’s precisely the point.
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          > Schools have more than one bus and they have to pass each other.\n
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          No they don’t they can enter from the same side. You’re just looking for excuses. Also why do you need buses in the first place why aren’t the kids walking or biking.
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          Why can’t you have one-way streets in a rural area? Fork off the main street on one end, merge on the other. Pedestrian and bicycle traffic can be bidirectional, cars can take a little detour they don’t use muscle energy.\n
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          How does that translate to "block the street for buses? If a street fits two pickups it fits two buses. They’ll have to negotiate to move around each other so if you have many (which, as I told you a lot, you shouldn’t) you should consider a one-way road, or maybe a meeting bay, or a wider street with choke points, or whatever. But it’s not “blocking the road for buses”.
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          Not an issue in Europe. Though granted the US would probably need to replace their fire trucks with sanely-sized ones. You also don’t need to haul a big-ass ladder in a low-density area what’s your plan use it to do a header into a suburban pool.\n
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          Regarding response time absence of gridlock will be more important than the last hundred metres on a residential street, consider investing in public transportation, walkable cities, and generally everything that abolishes owning and using a car being mandatory.
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          Things aren’t done differently, in principle, in villages. You were the one brining up blocks or did you mean “buildings surrounded by roads *and fields*”.\n
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          [This is Wacken](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.0275469,9.3755654,169m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) (*the* Wacken), I zoomed you in on the primary school. There’s surrounding villages without school so it’s bound to get bus traffic. Note how it’s on a street that’s wide enough for that, but not the main road, the one with all the through-traffic. Can you understand that principle. (Main Roads, actually, Wacken has two, Schenefelder and Hauptstraße).\n
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          > I only took issue with the ridiculous idea that the roads in front of rural US schools could be made safer by making them impassable by busses.\n
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          Noone ever said that? At least I didn’t.
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          > A block in the US doesn’t mean a square either.\n
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          Yes, great, blame a non native speaker for expressing himself incorrectly, correcting himself, and then quadruple down on it. I was thinking of unprioritised NY-style blocks you see all over the place in US cities, gridlock magnets. You know, places where people say “down the block” and generally measure distances in blocks.\n
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          > It is required that children do not cross two lane roads to be picked up by school buses. I don’t make the rules. I don’t have a solution to US car culture. But making roads unpassable by school buses isn’t an answer.\n
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          If you look back at that Hamburg link, at those streets internal to the superblock, you’ll notice that they *are* wide enough for buses to go through. There’s no regular bus lines through there (there’s two metro stations and plenty of bus stops surrounding it) but a school bus isn’t regular service, it doesn’t need to play by the same rules. You can make a pickup at one of those very spacious intersections. It’s not being done because there’s schools in walking distance and German kids can cross roads but it *could* be done. Would you, however, ever speed on those roads.
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          > Roads are typically 2 lanes one in each direction. You already know this because you said a solution would be to remove the lane marker.\n
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          I’m someone else.\n
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          > So you have a road with an elementary school, and 2 miles further down is a middle school. Even without that you have buses passing each other during pickup because busses only pickup kids on one side of the street so you don’t have young kids crossing roads.\n
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          Lots of questions here: Why can’t kids walk 500m to the next bus stop? Why are streets so unsafe so that kids can’t cross them?\n
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          Why assume that there’s no larger road in between those smaller roads? Roads generally form a hierarchy, you have big ones feeding into middle ones feeding into small ones. Small ones should absolutely be safe to cross, also without explicit crossings, because they’re traffic calmed and don’t have much traffic in the first place. That’s where houses and schools are, where there’s no through-traffic because even if they aren’t cul de sacs who would drive through a road you can’t drive fast on when there’s a mid-level road that you could take.\n
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          > What do you call a section of inner city bounded on all sides by a road in your country?\n
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          Straßenblock. Let me put it differently: We don’t have grids and nothing is regular. [This is about as grid-y as it gets](https://www.google.com/maps/@53.5753832,9.9851206,1090m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) and if you zoom in you’ll notice that the interior streets have no lane markers and some even are cobbled. Those connect to a street ( south, Hallerstraße) with bike lanes (don’t need those on smaller streets because there’s not enough traffic to warrant them), which connects to a four-lane (plus bus lane) street, Grindelalle, west. The intersection looks a bit crazy but it’s actually safe for pedestrians and you should’ve learned how to cross streets safely and what traffic lights are in Kindergarten. You’ve also been there with your parents (going shopping or whatever) a lot of times, nothing scary really. That kind of density and housing is probably illegal to build where you are (it’s illegal pretty much everywhere in the US and Canada).\n
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          And mind you Hamburg is awful when it comes to urbanism, way too car-centric. Not because of lack of public transport but because politicians are unwilling to kill off car traffic and the whole city is full of rich fucks with too much disposable income.
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          Let me look at a map… maybe 1km max anywhere in my 30k town to the next primary school and that’s when you’re living on the very very edge of town. Should be under 500m for most pupils.\n
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          If you’re living in a rural area, outside of the next village (which will have a school), which is an absolute exception as things tend to cluster into villages in rural areas, it might be 5km. Not really an issue with a bike, I biked what 3.5km to Kindergarten (together with my mom). If you have less density than that you probably should have boarding schools.\n
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          For secondary education, if you’re living in a village you’ll probably have to take the bus to the nearest city. Regular public transport though the schedule will take school times into account. Yes, kids can walk 500m to the nearest station.\n
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          Bonus: All that school density – smaller but way more of them – means that there’s obvious places to hold elections as there’s a municipality-owned place in Sunday stroll distance to pretty much everywhere. The only downside are the ludicrously low tables.
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    US suburbia has a higher density than the German countryside, having to travel 24km is nuts. That’d be defensible if you live in a tiny settlement 24km from a place with more than two dozen houses – I’m sure those exist in the US but suburbia isn’t that.\n
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    How many pupils were there at your school? My state has 106240 pupils in 393 primary schools, that’s an average of 270. Minimum size under ordinary circumstances is 80, the smallest is on Nordstrandischmoor: An island, 18 inhabitants, five families, one school, one teacher, two students, [here it is](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.5518864,8.8108853,16z?entry=ttu). That’s because we don’t do boarding in primary education so there’s a maximum tolerable commute time/distance, once those kids are old enough they’ll spend Monday through Friday on the mainland.\n
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    If your system insists that a school have at least 2k students or such then, yes, of course, walking to school will be an impossibility for most. Fix your school sizes and like 99% of students will be able to walk or bike, use buses or minivans or whatnot for the rest we do that too (not really possible in Nordstrandischmoor, thing doesn’t even have a ferry but a rail link that’s only usable when the tide is low).\n
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    And no it wasn’t my school it was my Kindergarten, which wasn’t, by a long shot, the closest to home it was the one my parents chose. I mentioned it to say that biking 3.5km is something a 4yold can do, physically, without any issue at all really.
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      EDIT: since apparently a bunch of people woke up with the wrong foot this morning or forgot to check the group they’re in:\n
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      If you’re addicted to crack or any other drugs, please seek professional help.
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          > You have one bus going in one direction to a school passing another bus going to another school.\n
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          In front of a school? Are your schools connected directly to highways or something?\n
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          > Have you only lived in an inner city where roads can be one way because they alternate in direction every block?\n
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          We don’t have blocks.
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          > Cost. That separate road means buying land from someone and turning it into road. Do they have one way roads for rural schools in Germany? Because I looked at a few Grundschule in Bavaria on Google maps and didn’t see any.\n
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          You’ll have a hard time finding a village with *literally* one single road. Certainly not one 1-2k which is the size that gets the school for the surrounding ones.\n
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          > It is cheaper and more convenient to have a speed camera that is active only during school hours.\n
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          And also completely ineffective at preventing anything.Heck at least use road bumps. Narrow the road only in spots so that two monster trucks if you please fit on comfortably side by side for 50-100m or such, but then it narrows down to half that for just 5m. While you’re at it build a crossing there, narrowing the roads at pedestrian crossing is standard practice in many places and it makes a hell a lot of sense. Yes, that slows down traffic because you might have to negotiate with oncoming traffic who goes first. Yes, that’s precisely the point.
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          > Schools have more than one bus and they have to pass each other.\n
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          No they don’t they can enter from the same side. You’re just looking for excuses. Also why do you need buses in the first place why aren’t the kids walking or biking.
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          Why can’t you have one-way streets in a rural area? Fork off the main street on one end, merge on the other. Pedestrian and bicycle traffic can be bidirectional, cars can take a little detour they don’t use muscle energy.\n
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          > > Wide enough for one pickup and no opposing traffic, but so narrow that two pickups are going to really have to negotiate to move around each other."\n
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          How does that translate to "block the street for buses? If a street fits two pickups it fits two buses. They’ll have to negotiate to move around each other so if you have many (which, as I told you a lot, you shouldn’t) you should consider a one-way road, or maybe a meeting bay, or a wider street with choke points, or whatever. But it’s not “blocking the road for buses”.
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        +body: "[Relevant Not Just Bikes](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bglWCuCMSWc)."
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          Not an issue in Europe. Though granted the US would probably need to replace their fire trucks with sanely-sized ones. You also don’t need to haul a big-ass ladder in a low-density area what’s your plan use it to do a header into a suburban pool.\n
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          Regarding response time absence of gridlock will be more important than the last hundred metres on a residential street, consider investing in public transportation, walkable cities, and generally everything that abolishes owning and using a car being mandatory.
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          Things aren’t done differently, in principle, in villages. You were the one brining up blocks or did you mean “buildings surrounded by roads *and fields*”.\n
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          [This is Wacken](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.0275469,9.3755654,169m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) (*the* Wacken), I zoomed you in on the primary school. There’s surrounding villages without school so it’s bound to get bus traffic. Note how it’s on a street that’s wide enough for that, but not the main road, the one with all the through-traffic. Can you understand that principle. (Main Roads, actually, Wacken has two, Schenefelder and Hauptstraße).\n
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          > I only took issue with the ridiculous idea that the roads in front of rural US schools could be made safer by making them impassable by busses.\n
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          Noone ever said that? At least I didn’t.
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          > A block in the US doesn’t mean a square either.\n
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          Yes, great, blame a non native speaker for expressing himself incorrectly, correcting himself, and then quadruple down on it. I was thinking of unprioritised NY-style blocks you see all over the place in US cities, gridlock magnets. You know, places where people say “down the block” and generally measure distances in blocks.\n
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          > It is required that children do not cross two lane roads to be picked up by school buses. I don’t make the rules. I don’t have a solution to US car culture. But making roads unpassable by school buses isn’t an answer.\n
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          If you look back at that Hamburg link, at those streets internal to the superblock, you’ll notice that they *are* wide enough for buses to go through. There’s no regular bus lines through there (there’s two metro stations and plenty of bus stops surrounding it) but a school bus isn’t regular service, it doesn’t need to play by the same rules. You can make a pickup at one of those very spacious intersections. It’s not being done because there’s schools in walking distance and German kids can cross roads but it *could* be done. Would you, however, ever speed on those roads.
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          > Roads are typically 2 lanes one in each direction. You already know this because you said a solution would be to remove the lane marker.\n
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          I’m someone else.\n
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          > So you have a road with an elementary school, and 2 miles further down is a middle school. Even without that you have buses passing each other during pickup because busses only pickup kids on one side of the street so you don’t have young kids crossing roads.\n
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          Lots of questions here: Why can’t kids walk 500m to the next bus stop? Why are streets so unsafe so that kids can’t cross them?\n
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          Why assume that there’s no larger road in between those smaller roads? Roads generally form a hierarchy, you have big ones feeding into middle ones feeding into small ones. Small ones should absolutely be safe to cross, also without explicit crossings, because they’re traffic calmed and don’t have much traffic in the first place. That’s where houses and schools are, where there’s no through-traffic because even if they aren’t cul de sacs who would drive through a road you can’t drive fast on when there’s a mid-level road that you could take.\n
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          > What do you call a section of inner city bounded on all sides by a road in your country?\n
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          Straßenblock. Let me put it differently: We don’t have grids and nothing is regular. [This is about as grid-y as it gets](https://www.google.com/maps/@53.5753832,9.9851206,1090m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) and if you zoom in you’ll notice that the interior streets have no lane markers and some even are cobbled. Those connect to a street ( south, Hallerstraße) with bike lanes (don’t need those on smaller streets because there’s not enough traffic to warrant them), which connects to a four-lane (plus bus lane) street, Grindelalle, west. The intersection looks a bit crazy but it’s actually safe for pedestrians and you should’ve learned how to cross streets safely and what traffic lights are in Kindergarten. You’ve also been there with your parents (going shopping or whatever) a lot of times, nothing scary really. That kind of density and housing is probably illegal to build where you are (it’s illegal pretty much everywhere in the US and Canada).\n
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          And mind you Hamburg is awful when it comes to urbanism, way too car-centric. Not because of lack of public transport but because politicians are unwilling to kill off car traffic and the whole city is full of rich fucks with too much disposable income.
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          Let me look at a map… maybe 1km max anywhere in my 30k town to the next primary school and that’s when you’re living on the very very edge of town. Should be under 500m for most pupils.\n
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          If you’re living in a rural area, outside of the next village (which will have a school), which is an absolute exception as things tend to cluster into villages in rural areas, it might be 5km. Not really an issue with a bike, I biked what 3.5km to Kindergarten (together with my mom). If you have less density than that you probably should have boarding schools.\n
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          For secondary education, if you’re living in a village you’ll probably have to take the bus to the nearest city. Regular public transport though the schedule will take school times into account. Yes, kids can walk 500m to the nearest station.\n
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          Bonus: All that school density – smaller but way more of them – means that there’s obvious places to hold elections as there’s a municipality-owned place in Sunday stroll distance to pretty much everywhere. The only downside are the ludicrously low tables.
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    US suburbia has a higher density than the German countryside, having to travel 24km is nuts. That’d be defensible if you live in a tiny settlement 24km from a place with more than two dozen houses – I’m sure those exist in the US but suburbia isn’t that.\n
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    How many pupils were there at your school? My state has 106240 pupils in 393 primary schools, that’s an average of 270. Minimum size under ordinary circumstances is 80, the smallest is on Nordstrandischmoor: An island, 18 inhabitants, five families, one school, one teacher, two students, [here it is](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.5518864,8.8108853,16z?entry=ttu). That’s because we don’t do boarding in primary education so there’s a maximum tolerable commute time/distance, once those kids are old enough they’ll spend Monday through Friday on the mainland.\n
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    If your system insists that a school have at least 2k students or such then, yes, of course, walking to school will be an impossibility for most. Fix your school sizes and like 99% of students will be able to walk or bike, use buses or minivans or whatnot for the rest we do that too (not really possible in Nordstrandischmoor, thing doesn’t even have a ferry but a rail link that’s only usable when the tide is low).\n
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    And no it wasn’t my school it was my Kindergarten, which wasn’t, by a long shot, the closest to home it was the one my parents chose. I mentioned it to say that biking 3.5km is something a 4yold can do, physically, without any issue at all really.
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    +slug: "Get-to-work-crackheads"
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      EDIT: since apparently a bunch of people woke up with the wrong foot this morning or forgot to check the group they’re in:\n
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      This is a joke. Do not steal or vandalize speed enforcement cameras (or anything else for that matter). That’s against the law and you will likely get arrested.\n
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      If you’re addicted to crack or any other drugs, please seek professional help.
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          > You have one bus going in one direction to a school passing another bus going to another school.\n
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          In front of a school? Are your schools connected directly to highways or something?\n
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          > Have you only lived in an inner city where roads can be one way because they alternate in direction every block?\n
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          We don’t have blocks.
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          > Cost. That separate road means buying land from someone and turning it into road. Do they have one way roads for rural schools in Germany? Because I looked at a few Grundschule in Bavaria on Google maps and didn’t see any.\n
          \n
          You’ll have a hard time finding a village with *literally* one single road. Certainly not one 1-2k which is the size that gets the school for the surrounding ones.\n
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          > It is cheaper and more convenient to have a speed camera that is active only during school hours.\n
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          And also completely ineffective at preventing anything.Heck at least use road bumps. Narrow the road only in spots so that two monster trucks if you please fit on comfortably side by side for 50-100m or such, but then it narrows down to half that for just 5m. While you’re at it build a crossing there, narrowing the roads at pedestrian crossing is standard practice in many places and it makes a hell a lot of sense. Yes, that slows down traffic because you might have to negotiate with oncoming traffic who goes first. Yes, that’s precisely the point.
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          > Schools have more than one bus and they have to pass each other.\n
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          No they don’t they can enter from the same side. You’re just looking for excuses. Also why do you need buses in the first place why aren’t the kids walking or biking.
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          Why can’t you have one-way streets in a rural area? Fork off the main street on one end, merge on the other. Pedestrian and bicycle traffic can be bidirectional, cars can take a little detour they don’t use muscle energy.\n
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          > > Wide enough for one pickup and no opposing traffic, but so narrow that two pickups are going to really have to negotiate to move around each other."\n
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          How does that translate to "block the street for buses? If a street fits two pickups it fits two buses. They’ll have to negotiate to move around each other so if you have many (which, as I told you a lot, you shouldn’t) you should consider a one-way road, or maybe a meeting bay, or a wider street with choke points, or whatever. But it’s not “blocking the road for buses”.
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        +body: "[Relevant Not Just Bikes](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bglWCuCMSWc)."
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          Not an issue in Europe. Though granted the US would probably need to replace their fire trucks with sanely-sized ones. You also don’t need to haul a big-ass ladder in a low-density area what’s your plan use it to do a header into a suburban pool.\n
          \n
          Regarding response time absence of gridlock will be more important than the last hundred metres on a residential street, consider investing in public transportation, walkable cities, and generally everything that abolishes owning and using a car being mandatory.
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          Things aren’t done differently, in principle, in villages. You were the one brining up blocks or did you mean “buildings surrounded by roads *and fields*”.\n
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          [This is Wacken](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.0275469,9.3755654,169m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) (*the* Wacken), I zoomed you in on the primary school. There’s surrounding villages without school so it’s bound to get bus traffic. Note how it’s on a street that’s wide enough for that, but not the main road, the one with all the through-traffic. Can you understand that principle. (Main Roads, actually, Wacken has two, Schenefelder and Hauptstraße).\n
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          > I only took issue with the ridiculous idea that the roads in front of rural US schools could be made safer by making them impassable by busses.\n
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          Noone ever said that? At least I didn’t.
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          > A block in the US doesn’t mean a square either.\n
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          Yes, great, blame a non native speaker for expressing himself incorrectly, correcting himself, and then quadruple down on it. I was thinking of unprioritised NY-style blocks you see all over the place in US cities, gridlock magnets. You know, places where people say “down the block” and generally measure distances in blocks.\n
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          > It is required that children do not cross two lane roads to be picked up by school buses. I don’t make the rules. I don’t have a solution to US car culture. But making roads unpassable by school buses isn’t an answer.\n
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          If you look back at that Hamburg link, at those streets internal to the superblock, you’ll notice that they *are* wide enough for buses to go through. There’s no regular bus lines through there (there’s two metro stations and plenty of bus stops surrounding it) but a school bus isn’t regular service, it doesn’t need to play by the same rules. You can make a pickup at one of those very spacious intersections. It’s not being done because there’s schools in walking distance and German kids can cross roads but it *could* be done. Would you, however, ever speed on those roads.
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          > Roads are typically 2 lanes one in each direction. You already know this because you said a solution would be to remove the lane marker.\n
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          I’m someone else.\n
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          > So you have a road with an elementary school, and 2 miles further down is a middle school. Even without that you have buses passing each other during pickup because busses only pickup kids on one side of the street so you don’t have young kids crossing roads.\n
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          Lots of questions here: Why can’t kids walk 500m to the next bus stop? Why are streets so unsafe so that kids can’t cross them?\n
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          Why assume that there’s no larger road in between those smaller roads? Roads generally form a hierarchy, you have big ones feeding into middle ones feeding into small ones. Small ones should absolutely be safe to cross, also without explicit crossings, because they’re traffic calmed and don’t have much traffic in the first place. That’s where houses and schools are, where there’s no through-traffic because even if they aren’t cul de sacs who would drive through a road you can’t drive fast on when there’s a mid-level road that you could take.\n
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          > What do you call a section of inner city bounded on all sides by a road in your country?\n
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          Straßenblock. Let me put it differently: We don’t have grids and nothing is regular. [This is about as grid-y as it gets](https://www.google.com/maps/@53.5753832,9.9851206,1090m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) and if you zoom in you’ll notice that the interior streets have no lane markers and some even are cobbled. Those connect to a street ( south, Hallerstraße) with bike lanes (don’t need those on smaller streets because there’s not enough traffic to warrant them), which connects to a four-lane (plus bus lane) street, Grindelalle, west. The intersection looks a bit crazy but it’s actually safe for pedestrians and you should’ve learned how to cross streets safely and what traffic lights are in Kindergarten. You’ve also been there with your parents (going shopping or whatever) a lot of times, nothing scary really. That kind of density and housing is probably illegal to build where you are (it’s illegal pretty much everywhere in the US and Canada).\n
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          And mind you Hamburg is awful when it comes to urbanism, way too car-centric. Not because of lack of public transport but because politicians are unwilling to kill off car traffic and the whole city is full of rich fucks with too much disposable income.
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          Let me look at a map… maybe 1km max anywhere in my 30k town to the next primary school and that’s when you’re living on the very very edge of town. Should be under 500m for most pupils.\n
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          If you’re living in a rural area, outside of the next village (which will have a school), which is an absolute exception as things tend to cluster into villages in rural areas, it might be 5km. Not really an issue with a bike, I biked what 3.5km to Kindergarten (together with my mom). If you have less density than that you probably should have boarding schools.\n
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          For secondary education, if you’re living in a village you’ll probably have to take the bus to the nearest city. Regular public transport though the schedule will take school times into account. Yes, kids can walk 500m to the nearest station.\n
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          Bonus: All that school density – smaller but way more of them – means that there’s obvious places to hold elections as there’s a municipality-owned place in Sunday stroll distance to pretty much everywhere. The only downside are the ludicrously low tables.
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    US suburbia has a higher density than the German countryside, having to travel 24km is nuts. That’d be defensible if you live in a tiny settlement 24km from a place with more than two dozen houses – I’m sure those exist in the US but suburbia isn’t that.\n
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    How many pupils were there at your school? My state has 106240 pupils in 393 primary schools, that’s an average of 270. Minimum size under ordinary circumstances is 80, the smallest is on Nordstrandischmoor: An island, 18 inhabitants, five families, one school, one teacher, two students, [here it is](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.5518864,8.8108853,16z?entry=ttu). That’s because we don’t do boarding in primary education so there’s a maximum tolerable commute time/distance, once those kids are old enough they’ll spend Monday through Friday on the mainland.\n
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    If your system insists that a school have at least 2k students or such then, yes, of course, walking to school will be an impossibility for most. Fix your school sizes and like 99% of students will be able to walk or bike, use buses or minivans or whatnot for the rest we do that too (not really possible in Nordstrandischmoor, thing doesn’t even have a ferry but a rail link that’s only usable when the tide is low).\n
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    And no it wasn’t my school it was my Kindergarten, which wasn’t, by a long shot, the closest to home it was the one my parents chose. I mentioned it to say that biking 3.5km is something a 4yold can do, physically, without any issue at all really.
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      EDIT: since apparently a bunch of people woke up with the wrong foot this morning or forgot to check the group they’re in:\n
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      This is a joke. Do not steal or vandalize speed enforcement cameras (or anything else for that matter). That’s against the law and you will likely get arrested.\n
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      If you’re addicted to crack or any other drugs, please seek professional help.
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          > You have one bus going in one direction to a school passing another bus going to another school.\n
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          In front of a school? Are your schools connected directly to highways or something?\n
          \n
          > Have you only lived in an inner city where roads can be one way because they alternate in direction every block?\n
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          We don’t have blocks.
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          > Cost. That separate road means buying land from someone and turning it into road. Do they have one way roads for rural schools in Germany? Because I looked at a few Grundschule in Bavaria on Google maps and didn’t see any.\n
          \n
          You’ll have a hard time finding a village with *literally* one single road. Certainly not one 1-2k which is the size that gets the school for the surrounding ones.\n
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          > It is cheaper and more convenient to have a speed camera that is active only during school hours.\n
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          And also completely ineffective at preventing anything.Heck at least use road bumps. Narrow the road only in spots so that two monster trucks if you please fit on comfortably side by side for 50-100m or such, but then it narrows down to half that for just 5m. While you’re at it build a crossing there, narrowing the roads at pedestrian crossing is standard practice in many places and it makes a hell a lot of sense. Yes, that slows down traffic because you might have to negotiate with oncoming traffic who goes first. Yes, that’s precisely the point.
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          > Schools have more than one bus and they have to pass each other.\n
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          No they don’t they can enter from the same side. You’re just looking for excuses. Also why do you need buses in the first place why aren’t the kids walking or biking.
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          Why can’t you have one-way streets in a rural area? Fork off the main street on one end, merge on the other. Pedestrian and bicycle traffic can be bidirectional, cars can take a little detour they don’t use muscle energy.\n
          \n
          > > Wide enough for one pickup and no opposing traffic, but so narrow that two pickups are going to really have to negotiate to move around each other."\n
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          How does that translate to "block the street for buses? If a street fits two pickups it fits two buses. They’ll have to negotiate to move around each other so if you have many (which, as I told you a lot, you shouldn’t) you should consider a one-way road, or maybe a meeting bay, or a wider street with choke points, or whatever. But it’s not “blocking the road for buses”.
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        +body: "[Relevant Not Just Bikes](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bglWCuCMSWc)."
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          Not an issue in Europe. Though granted the US would probably need to replace their fire trucks with sanely-sized ones. You also don’t need to haul a big-ass ladder in a low-density area what’s your plan use it to do a header into a suburban pool.\n
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          Regarding response time absence of gridlock will be more important than the last hundred metres on a residential street, consider investing in public transportation, walkable cities, and generally everything that abolishes owning and using a car being mandatory.
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          Things aren’t done differently, in principle, in villages. You were the one brining up blocks or did you mean “buildings surrounded by roads *and fields*”.\n
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          [This is Wacken](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.0275469,9.3755654,169m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) (*the* Wacken), I zoomed you in on the primary school. There’s surrounding villages without school so it’s bound to get bus traffic. Note how it’s on a street that’s wide enough for that, but not the main road, the one with all the through-traffic. Can you understand that principle. (Main Roads, actually, Wacken has two, Schenefelder and Hauptstraße).\n
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          > I only took issue with the ridiculous idea that the roads in front of rural US schools could be made safer by making them impassable by busses.\n
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          Noone ever said that? At least I didn’t.
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          > A block in the US doesn’t mean a square either.\n
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          Yes, great, blame a non native speaker for expressing himself incorrectly, correcting himself, and then quadruple down on it. I was thinking of unprioritised NY-style blocks you see all over the place in US cities, gridlock magnets. You know, places where people say “down the block” and generally measure distances in blocks.\n
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          > It is required that children do not cross two lane roads to be picked up by school buses. I don’t make the rules. I don’t have a solution to US car culture. But making roads unpassable by school buses isn’t an answer.\n
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          If you look back at that Hamburg link, at those streets internal to the superblock, you’ll notice that they *are* wide enough for buses to go through. There’s no regular bus lines through there (there’s two metro stations and plenty of bus stops surrounding it) but a school bus isn’t regular service, it doesn’t need to play by the same rules. You can make a pickup at one of those very spacious intersections. It’s not being done because there’s schools in walking distance and German kids can cross roads but it *could* be done. Would you, however, ever speed on those roads.
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          US suburbia has a higher density than the German countryside, having to travel 24km is nuts. That’d be defensible if you live in a tiny settlement 24km from a place with more than two dozen houses – I’m sure those exist in the US but suburbia isn’t that.\n
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          How many pupils were there at your school? My state has 106240 pupils in 393 primary schools, that’s an average of 270. Minimum size under ordinary circumstances is 80, the smallest is on Nordstrandischmoor: An island, 18 inhabitants, five families, one school, one teacher, two students, [here it is](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.5518864,8.8108853,16z?entry=ttu). That’s because we don’t do boarding in primary education so there’s a maximum tolerable commute time/distance, once those kids are old enough they’ll spend Monday through Friday on the mainland.\n
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          If your system insists that a school have at least 2k students or such then, yes, of course, walking to school will be an impossibility for most. Fix your school sizes and like 99% of students will be able to walk or bike, use buses or minivans or whatnot for the rest we do that too (not really possible in Nordstrandischmoor, thing doesn’t even have a ferry but a rail link that’s only usable when the tide is low).\n
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          And no it wasn’t my school it was my Kindergarten, which wasn’t, by a long shot, the closest to home it was the one my parents chose. I mentioned it to say that biking 3.5km is something a 4yold can do, physically, without any issue at all really.
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          Let me look at a map… maybe 1km max anywhere in my 30k town to the next primary school and that’s when you’re living on the very very edge of town. Should be under 500m for most pupils.\n
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          If you’re living in a rural area, outside of the next village (which will have a school), which is an absolute exception as things tend to cluster into villages in rural areas, it might be 5km. Not really an issue with a bike, I biked what 3.5km to Kindergarten (together with my mom). If you have less density than that you probably should have boarding schools.\n
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          For secondary education, if you’re living in a village you’ll probably have to take the bus to the nearest city. Regular public transport though the schedule will take school times into account. Yes, kids can walk 500m to the nearest station.\n
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          Bonus: All that school density – smaller but way more of them – means that there’s obvious places to hold elections as there’s a municipality-owned place in Sunday stroll distance to pretty much everywhere. The only downside are the ludicrously low tables.
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    > Roads are typically 2 lanes one in each direction. You already know this because you said a solution would be to remove the lane marker.\n
    \n
    I’m someone else.\n
    \n
    > So you have a road with an elementary school, and 2 miles further down is a middle school. Even without that you have buses passing each other during pickup because busses only pickup kids on one side of the street so you don’t have young kids crossing roads.\n
    \n
    Lots of questions here: Why can’t kids walk 500m to the next bus stop? Why are streets so unsafe so that kids can’t cross them?\n
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    Why assume that there’s no larger road in between those smaller roads? Roads generally form a hierarchy, you have big ones feeding into middle ones feeding into small ones. Small ones should absolutely be safe to cross, also without explicit crossings, because they’re traffic calmed and don’t have much traffic in the first place. That’s where houses and schools are, where there’s no through-traffic because even if they aren’t cul de sacs who would drive through a road you can’t drive fast on when there’s a mid-level road that you could take.\n
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    > What do you call a section of inner city bounded on all sides by a road in your country?\n
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    Straßenblock. Let me put it differently: We don’t have grids and nothing is regular. [This is about as grid-y as it gets](https://www.google.com/maps/@53.5753832,9.9851206,1090m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) and if you zoom in you’ll notice that the interior streets have no lane markers and some even are cobbled. Those connect to a street ( south, Hallerstraße) with bike lanes (don’t need those on smaller streets because there’s not enough traffic to warrant them), which connects to a four-lane (plus bus lane) street, Grindelalle, west. The intersection looks a bit crazy but it’s actually safe for pedestrians and you should’ve learned how to cross streets safely and what traffic lights are in Kindergarten. You’ve also been there with your parents (going shopping or whatever) a lot of times, nothing scary really. That kind of density and housing is probably illegal to build where you are (it’s illegal pretty much everywhere in the US and Canada).\n
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    And mind you Hamburg is awful when it comes to urbanism, way too car-centric. Not because of lack of public transport but because politicians are unwilling to kill off car traffic and the whole city is full of rich fucks with too much disposable income.
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      If you’re addicted to crack or any other drugs, please seek professional help.
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          > You have one bus going in one direction to a school passing another bus going to another school.\n
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          In front of a school? Are your schools connected directly to highways or something?\n
          \n
          > Have you only lived in an inner city where roads can be one way because they alternate in direction every block?\n
          \n
          We don’t have blocks.
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          > Cost. That separate road means buying land from someone and turning it into road. Do they have one way roads for rural schools in Germany? Because I looked at a few Grundschule in Bavaria on Google maps and didn’t see any.\n
          \n
          You’ll have a hard time finding a village with *literally* one single road. Certainly not one 1-2k which is the size that gets the school for the surrounding ones.\n
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          > It is cheaper and more convenient to have a speed camera that is active only during school hours.\n
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          And also completely ineffective at preventing anything.Heck at least use road bumps. Narrow the road only in spots so that two monster trucks if you please fit on comfortably side by side for 50-100m or such, but then it narrows down to half that for just 5m. While you’re at it build a crossing there, narrowing the roads at pedestrian crossing is standard practice in many places and it makes a hell a lot of sense. Yes, that slows down traffic because you might have to negotiate with oncoming traffic who goes first. Yes, that’s precisely the point.
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          > Schools have more than one bus and they have to pass each other.\n
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          No they don’t they can enter from the same side. You’re just looking for excuses. Also why do you need buses in the first place why aren’t the kids walking or biking.
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          Why can’t you have one-way streets in a rural area? Fork off the main street on one end, merge on the other. Pedestrian and bicycle traffic can be bidirectional, cars can take a little detour they don’t use muscle energy.\n
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          > > Wide enough for one pickup and no opposing traffic, but so narrow that two pickups are going to really have to negotiate to move around each other."\n
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          How does that translate to "block the street for buses? If a street fits two pickups it fits two buses. They’ll have to negotiate to move around each other so if you have many (which, as I told you a lot, you shouldn’t) you should consider a one-way road, or maybe a meeting bay, or a wider street with choke points, or whatever. But it’s not “blocking the road for buses”.
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        +body: "[Relevant Not Just Bikes](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bglWCuCMSWc)."
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          Not an issue in Europe. Though granted the US would probably need to replace their fire trucks with sanely-sized ones. You also don’t need to haul a big-ass ladder in a low-density area what’s your plan use it to do a header into a suburban pool.\n
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          Regarding response time absence of gridlock will be more important than the last hundred metres on a residential street, consider investing in public transportation, walkable cities, and generally everything that abolishes owning and using a car being mandatory.
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          Things aren’t done differently, in principle, in villages. You were the one brining up blocks or did you mean “buildings surrounded by roads *and fields*”.\n
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          [This is Wacken](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.0275469,9.3755654,169m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) (*the* Wacken), I zoomed you in on the primary school. There’s surrounding villages without school so it’s bound to get bus traffic. Note how it’s on a street that’s wide enough for that, but not the main road, the one with all the through-traffic. Can you understand that principle. (Main Roads, actually, Wacken has two, Schenefelder and Hauptstraße).\n
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          > I only took issue with the ridiculous idea that the roads in front of rural US schools could be made safer by making them impassable by busses.\n
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          Noone ever said that? At least I didn’t.
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          > A block in the US doesn’t mean a square either.\n
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          Yes, great, blame a non native speaker for expressing himself incorrectly, correcting himself, and then quadruple down on it. I was thinking of unprioritised NY-style blocks you see all over the place in US cities, gridlock magnets. You know, places where people say “down the block” and generally measure distances in blocks.\n
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          > It is required that children do not cross two lane roads to be picked up by school buses. I don’t make the rules. I don’t have a solution to US car culture. But making roads unpassable by school buses isn’t an answer.\n
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          If you look back at that Hamburg link, at those streets internal to the superblock, you’ll notice that they *are* wide enough for buses to go through. There’s no regular bus lines through there (there’s two metro stations and plenty of bus stops surrounding it) but a school bus isn’t regular service, it doesn’t need to play by the same rules. You can make a pickup at one of those very spacious intersections. It’s not being done because there’s schools in walking distance and German kids can cross roads but it *could* be done. Would you, however, ever speed on those roads.
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          US suburbia has a higher density than the German countryside, having to travel 24km is nuts. That’d be defensible if you live in a tiny settlement 24km from a place with more than two dozen houses – I’m sure those exist in the US but suburbia isn’t that.\n
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          How many pupils were there at your school? My state has 106240 pupils in 393 primary schools, that’s an average of 270. Minimum size under ordinary circumstances is 80, the smallest is on Nordstrandischmoor: An island, 18 inhabitants, five families, one school, one teacher, two students, [here it is](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.5518864,8.8108853,16z?entry=ttu). That’s because we don’t do boarding in primary education so there’s a maximum tolerable commute time/distance, once those kids are old enough they’ll spend Monday through Friday on the mainland.\n
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          If your system insists that a school have at least 2k students or such then, yes, of course, walking to school will be an impossibility for most. Fix your school sizes and like 99% of students will be able to walk or bike, use buses or minivans or whatnot for the rest we do that too (not really possible in Nordstrandischmoor, thing doesn’t even have a ferry but a rail link that’s only usable when the tide is low).\n
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          And no it wasn’t my school it was my Kindergarten, which wasn’t, by a long shot, the closest to home it was the one my parents chose. I mentioned it to say that biking 3.5km is something a 4yold can do, physically, without any issue at all really.
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          Let me look at a map… maybe 1km max anywhere in my 30k town to the next primary school and that’s when you’re living on the very very edge of town. Should be under 500m for most pupils.\n
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          If you’re living in a rural area, outside of the next village (which will have a school), which is an absolute exception as things tend to cluster into villages in rural areas, it might be 5km. Not really an issue with a bike, I biked what 3.5km to Kindergarten (together with my mom). If you have less density than that you probably should have boarding schools.\n
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          For secondary education, if you’re living in a village you’ll probably have to take the bus to the nearest city. Regular public transport though the schedule will take school times into account. Yes, kids can walk 500m to the nearest station.\n
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          Bonus: All that school density – smaller but way more of them – means that there’s obvious places to hold elections as there’s a municipality-owned place in Sunday stroll distance to pretty much everywhere. The only downside are the ludicrously low tables.
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    > Roads are typically 2 lanes one in each direction. You already know this because you said a solution would be to remove the lane marker.\n
    \n
    I’m someone else.\n
    \n
    > So you have a road with an elementary school, and 2 miles further down is a middle school. Even without that you have buses passing each other during pickup because busses only pickup kids on one side of the street so you don’t have young kids crossing roads.\n
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    Lots of questions here: Why can’t kids walk 500m to the next bus stop? Why are streets so unsafe so that kids can’t cross them?\n
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    Why assume that there’s no larger road in between those smaller roads? Roads generally form a hierarchy, you have big ones feeding into middle ones feeding into small ones. Small ones should absolutely be safe to cross, also without explicit crossings, because they’re traffic calmed and don’t have much traffic in the first place. That’s where houses and schools are, where there’s no through-traffic because even if they aren’t cul de sacs who would drive through a road you can’t drive fast on when there’s a mid-level road that you could take.\n
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    > What do you call a section of inner city bounded on all sides by a road in your country?\n
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    Straßenblock. Let me put it differently: We don’t have grids and nothing is regular. [This is about as grid-y as it gets](https://www.google.com/maps/@53.5753832,9.9851206,1090m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) and if you zoom in you’ll notice that the interior streets have no lane markers and some even are cobbled. Those connect to a street ( south, Hallerstraße) with bike lanes (don’t need those on smaller streets because there’s not enough traffic to warrant them), which connects to a four-lane (plus bus lane) street, Grindelalle, west. The intersection looks a bit crazy but it’s actually safe for pedestrians and you should’ve learned how to cross streets safely and what traffic lights are in Kindergarten. You’ve also been there with your parents (going shopping or whatever) a lot of times, nothing scary really. That kind of density and housing is probably illegal to build where you are (it’s illegal pretty much everywhere in the US and Canada).\n
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    And mind you Hamburg is awful when it comes to urbanism, way too car-centric. Not because of lack of public transport but because politicians are unwilling to kill off car traffic and the whole city is full of rich fucks with too much disposable income.
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          > You have one bus going in one direction to a school passing another bus going to another school.\n
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          In front of a school? Are your schools connected directly to highways or something?\n
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          > Have you only lived in an inner city where roads can be one way because they alternate in direction every block?\n
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          > Cost. That separate road means buying land from someone and turning it into road. Do they have one way roads for rural schools in Germany? Because I looked at a few Grundschule in Bavaria on Google maps and didn’t see any.\n
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          You’ll have a hard time finding a village with *literally* one single road. Certainly not one 1-2k which is the size that gets the school for the surrounding ones.\n
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          > It is cheaper and more convenient to have a speed camera that is active only during school hours.\n
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          And also completely ineffective at preventing anything.Heck at least use road bumps. Narrow the road only in spots so that two monster trucks if you please fit on comfortably side by side for 50-100m or such, but then it narrows down to half that for just 5m. While you’re at it build a crossing there, narrowing the roads at pedestrian crossing is standard practice in many places and it makes a hell a lot of sense. Yes, that slows down traffic because you might have to negotiate with oncoming traffic who goes first. Yes, that’s precisely the point.
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          > Schools have more than one bus and they have to pass each other.\n
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          No they don’t they can enter from the same side. You’re just looking for excuses. Also why do you need buses in the first place why aren’t the kids walking or biking.
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          Why can’t you have one-way streets in a rural area? Fork off the main street on one end, merge on the other. Pedestrian and bicycle traffic can be bidirectional, cars can take a little detour they don’t use muscle energy.\n
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          > > Wide enough for one pickup and no opposing traffic, but so narrow that two pickups are going to really have to negotiate to move around each other."\n
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          How does that translate to "block the street for buses? If a street fits two pickups it fits two buses. They’ll have to negotiate to move around each other so if you have many (which, as I told you a lot, you shouldn’t) you should consider a one-way road, or maybe a meeting bay, or a wider street with choke points, or whatever. But it’s not “blocking the road for buses”.
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        +body: "[Relevant Not Just Bikes](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bglWCuCMSWc)."
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          Not an issue in Europe. Though granted the US would probably need to replace their fire trucks with sanely-sized ones. You also don’t need to haul a big-ass ladder in a low-density area what’s your plan use it to do a header into a suburban pool.\n
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          Regarding response time absence of gridlock will be more important than the last hundred metres on a residential street, consider investing in public transportation, walkable cities, and generally everything that abolishes owning and using a car being mandatory.
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          Things aren’t done differently, in principle, in villages. You were the one brining up blocks or did you mean “buildings surrounded by roads *and fields*”.\n
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          [This is Wacken](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.0275469,9.3755654,169m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) (*the* Wacken), I zoomed you in on the primary school. There’s surrounding villages without school so it’s bound to get bus traffic. Note how it’s on a street that’s wide enough for that, but not the main road, the one with all the through-traffic. Can you understand that principle. (Main Roads, actually, Wacken has two, Schenefelder and Hauptstraße).\n
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          > I only took issue with the ridiculous idea that the roads in front of rural US schools could be made safer by making them impassable by busses.\n
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          Noone ever said that? At least I didn’t.
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          > A block in the US doesn’t mean a square either.\n
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          Yes, great, blame a non native speaker for expressing himself incorrectly, correcting himself, and then quadruple down on it. I was thinking of unprioritised NY-style blocks you see all over the place in US cities, gridlock magnets. You know, places where people say “down the block” and generally measure distances in blocks.\n
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          > It is required that children do not cross two lane roads to be picked up by school buses. I don’t make the rules. I don’t have a solution to US car culture. But making roads unpassable by school buses isn’t an answer.\n
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          If you look back at that Hamburg link, at those streets internal to the superblock, you’ll notice that they *are* wide enough for buses to go through. There’s no regular bus lines through there (there’s two metro stations and plenty of bus stops surrounding it) but a school bus isn’t regular service, it doesn’t need to play by the same rules. You can make a pickup at one of those very spacious intersections. It’s not being done because there’s schools in walking distance and German kids can cross roads but it *could* be done. Would you, however, ever speed on those roads.
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          US suburbia has a higher density than the German countryside, having to travel 24km is nuts. That’d be defensible if you live in a tiny settlement 24km from a place with more than two dozen houses – I’m sure those exist in the US but suburbia isn’t that.\n
          \n
          How many pupils were there at your school? My state has 106240 pupils in 393 primary schools, that’s an average of 270. Minimum size under ordinary circumstances is 80, the smallest is on Nordstrandischmoor: An island, 18 inhabitants, five families, one school, one teacher, two students, [here it is](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.5518864,8.8108853,16z?entry=ttu). That’s because we don’t do boarding in primary education so there’s a maximum tolerable commute time/distance, once those kids are old enough they’ll spend Monday through Friday on the mainland.\n
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          If your system insists that a school have at least 2k students or such then, yes, of course, walking to school will be an impossibility for most. Fix your school sizes and like 99% of students will be able to walk or bike, use buses or minivans or whatnot for the rest we do that too (not really possible in Nordstrandischmoor, thing doesn’t even have a ferry but a rail link that’s only usable when the tide is low).\n
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          And no it wasn’t my school it was my Kindergarten, which wasn’t, by a long shot, the closest to home it was the one my parents chose. I mentioned it to say that biking 3.5km is something a 4yold can do, physically, without any issue at all really.
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          Let me look at a map… maybe 1km max anywhere in my 30k town to the next primary school and that’s when you’re living on the very very edge of town. Should be under 500m for most pupils.\n
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          If you’re living in a rural area, outside of the next village (which will have a school), which is an absolute exception as things tend to cluster into villages in rural areas, it might be 5km. Not really an issue with a bike, I biked what 3.5km to Kindergarten (together with my mom). If you have less density than that you probably should have boarding schools.\n
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          For secondary education, if you’re living in a village you’ll probably have to take the bus to the nearest city. Regular public transport though the schedule will take school times into account. Yes, kids can walk 500m to the nearest station.\n
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          Bonus: All that school density – smaller but way more of them – means that there’s obvious places to hold elections as there’s a municipality-owned place in Sunday stroll distance to pretty much everywhere. The only downside are the ludicrously low tables.
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    > Roads are typically 2 lanes one in each direction. You already know this because you said a solution would be to remove the lane marker.\n
    \n
    I’m someone else.\n
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    > So you have a road with an elementary school, and 2 miles further down is a middle school. Even without that you have buses passing each other during pickup because busses only pickup kids on one side of the street so you don’t have young kids crossing roads.\n
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    Lots of questions here: Why can’t kids walk 500m to the next bus stop? Why are streets so unsafe so that kids can’t cross them?\n
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    Why assume that there’s no larger road in between those smaller roads? Roads generally form a hierarchy, you have big ones feeding into middle ones feeding into small ones. Small ones should absolutely be safe to cross, also without explicit crossings, because they’re traffic calmed and don’t have much traffic in the first place. That’s where houses and schools are, where there’s no through-traffic because even if they aren’t cul de sacs who would drive through a road you can’t drive fast on when there’s a mid-level road that you could take.\n
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    > What do you call a section of inner city bounded on all sides by a road in your country?\n
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    Straßenblock. Let me put it differently: We don’t have grids and nothing is regular. [This is about as grid-y as it gets](https://www.google.com/maps/@53.5753832,9.9851206,1090m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) and if you zoom in you’ll notice that the interior streets have no lane markers and some even are cobbled. Those connect to a street ( south, Hallerstraße) with bike lanes (don’t need those on smaller streets because there’s not enough traffic to warrant them), which connects to a four-lane (plus bus lane) street, Grindelalle, west. The intersection looks a bit crazy but it’s actually safe for pedestrians and you should’ve learned how to cross streets safely and what traffic lights are in Kindergarten. You’ve also been there with your parents (going shopping or whatever) a lot of times, nothing scary really. That kind of density and housing is probably illegal to build where you are (it’s illegal pretty much everywhere in the US and Canada).\n
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    And mind you Hamburg is awful when it comes to urbanism, way too car-centric. Not because of lack of public transport but because politicians are unwilling to kill off car traffic and the whole city is full of rich fucks with too much disposable income.
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          > You have one bus going in one direction to a school passing another bus going to another school.\n
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          In front of a school? Are your schools connected directly to highways or something?\n
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          > Cost. That separate road means buying land from someone and turning it into road. Do they have one way roads for rural schools in Germany? Because I looked at a few Grundschule in Bavaria on Google maps and didn’t see any.\n
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          You’ll have a hard time finding a village with *literally* one single road. Certainly not one 1-2k which is the size that gets the school for the surrounding ones.\n
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          > Schools have more than one bus and they have to pass each other.\n
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          No they don’t they can enter from the same side. You’re just looking for excuses. Also why do you need buses in the first place why aren’t the kids walking or biking.
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          Why can’t you have one-way streets in a rural area? Fork off the main street on one end, merge on the other. Pedestrian and bicycle traffic can be bidirectional, cars can take a little detour they don’t use muscle energy.\n
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          > > Wide enough for one pickup and no opposing traffic, but so narrow that two pickups are going to really have to negotiate to move around each other."\n
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          How does that translate to "block the street for buses? If a street fits two pickups it fits two buses. They’ll have to negotiate to move around each other so if you have many (which, as I told you a lot, you shouldn’t) you should consider a one-way road, or maybe a meeting bay, or a wider street with choke points, or whatever. But it’s not “blocking the road for buses”.
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        +body: "[Relevant Not Just Bikes](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bglWCuCMSWc)."
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          Not an issue in Europe. Though granted the US would probably need to replace their fire trucks with sanely-sized ones. You also don’t need to haul a big-ass ladder in a low-density area what’s your plan use it to do a header into a suburban pool.\n
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          Regarding response time absence of gridlock will be more important than the last hundred metres on a residential street, consider investing in public transportation, walkable cities, and generally everything that abolishes owning and using a car being mandatory.
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          Things aren’t done differently, in principle, in villages. You were the one brining up blocks or did you mean “buildings surrounded by roads *and fields*”.\n
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          [This is Wacken](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.0275469,9.3755654,169m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) (*the* Wacken), I zoomed you in on the primary school. There’s surrounding villages without school so it’s bound to get bus traffic. Note how it’s on a street that’s wide enough for that, but not the main road, the one with all the through-traffic. Can you understand that principle. (Main Roads, actually, Wacken has two, Schenefelder and Hauptstraße).\n
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          > I only took issue with the ridiculous idea that the roads in front of rural US schools could be made safer by making them impassable by busses.\n
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          Noone ever said that? At least I didn’t.
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          > A block in the US doesn’t mean a square either.\n
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          Yes, great, blame a non native speaker for expressing himself incorrectly, correcting himself, and then quadruple down on it. I was thinking of unprioritised NY-style blocks you see all over the place in US cities, gridlock magnets. You know, places where people say “down the block” and generally measure distances in blocks.\n
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          > It is required that children do not cross two lane roads to be picked up by school buses. I don’t make the rules. I don’t have a solution to US car culture. But making roads unpassable by school buses isn’t an answer.\n
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          If you look back at that Hamburg link, at those streets internal to the superblock, you’ll notice that they *are* wide enough for buses to go through. There’s no regular bus lines through there (there’s two metro stations and plenty of bus stops surrounding it) but a school bus isn’t regular service, it doesn’t need to play by the same rules. You can make a pickup at one of those very spacious intersections. It’s not being done because there’s schools in walking distance and German kids can cross roads but it *could* be done. Would you, however, ever speed on those roads.
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          US suburbia has a higher density than the German countryside, having to travel 24km is nuts. That’d be defensible if you live in a tiny settlement 24km from a place with more than two dozen houses – I’m sure those exist in the US but suburbia isn’t that.\n
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          How many pupils were there at your school? My state has 106240 pupils in 393 primary schools, that’s an average of 270. Minimum size under ordinary circumstances is 80, the smallest is on Nordstrandischmoor: An island, 18 inhabitants, five families, one school, one teacher, two students, [here it is](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.5518864,8.8108853,16z?entry=ttu). That’s because we don’t do boarding in primary education so there’s a maximum tolerable commute time/distance, once those kids are old enough they’ll spend Monday through Friday on the mainland.\n
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          If your system insists that a school have at least 2k students or such then, yes, of course, walking to school will be an impossibility for most. Fix your school sizes and like 99% of students will be able to walk or bike, use buses or minivans or whatnot for the rest we do that too (not really possible in Nordstrandischmoor, thing doesn’t even have a ferry but a rail link that’s only usable when the tide is low).\n
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          And no it wasn’t my school it was my Kindergarten, which wasn’t, by a long shot, the closest to home it was the one my parents chose. I mentioned it to say that biking 3.5km is something a 4yold can do, physically, without any issue at all really.
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          > Roads are typically 2 lanes one in each direction. You already know this because you said a solution would be to remove the lane marker.\n
          \n
          I’m someone else.\n
          \n
          > So you have a road with an elementary school, and 2 miles further down is a middle school. Even without that you have buses passing each other during pickup because busses only pickup kids on one side of the street so you don’t have young kids crossing roads.\n
          \n
          Lots of questions here: Why can’t kids walk 500m to the next bus stop? Why are streets so unsafe so that kids can’t cross them?\n
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          Why assume that there’s no larger road in between those smaller roads? Roads generally form a hierarchy, you have big ones feeding into middle ones feeding into small ones. Small ones should absolutely be safe to cross, also without explicit crossings, because they’re traffic calmed and don’t have much traffic in the first place. That’s where houses and schools are, where there’s no through-traffic because even if they aren’t cul de sacs who would drive through a road you can’t drive fast on when there’s a mid-level road that you could take.\n
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          > What do you call a section of inner city bounded on all sides by a road in your country?\n
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          Straßenblock. Let me put it differently: We don’t have grids and nothing is regular. [This is about as grid-y as it gets](https://www.google.com/maps/@53.5753832,9.9851206,1090m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) and if you zoom in you’ll notice that the interior streets have no lane markers and some even are cobbled. Those connect to a street ( south, Hallerstraße) with bike lanes (don’t need those on smaller streets because there’s not enough traffic to warrant them), which connects to a four-lane (plus bus lane) street, Grindelalle, west. The intersection looks a bit crazy but it’s actually safe for pedestrians and you should’ve learned how to cross streets safely and what traffic lights are in Kindergarten. You’ve also been there with your parents (going shopping or whatever) a lot of times, nothing scary really. That kind of density and housing is probably illegal to build where you are (it’s illegal pretty much everywhere in the US and Canada).\n
          \n
          And mind you Hamburg is awful when it comes to urbanism, way too car-centric. Not because of lack of public transport but because politicians are unwilling to kill off car traffic and the whole city is full of rich fucks with too much disposable income.
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    Let me look at a map… maybe 1km max anywhere in my 30k town to the next primary school and that’s when you’re living on the very very edge of town. Should be under 500m for most pupils.\n
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    If you’re living in a rural area, outside of the next village (which will have a school), which is an absolute exception as things tend to cluster into villages in rural areas, it might be 5km. Not really an issue with a bike, I biked what 3.5km to Kindergarten (together with my mom). If you have less density than that you probably should have boarding schools.\n
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    For secondary education, if you’re living in a village you’ll probably have to take the bus to the nearest city. Regular public transport though the schedule will take school times into account. Yes, kids can walk 500m to the nearest station.\n
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    Bonus: All that school density – smaller but way more of them – means that there’s obvious places to hold elections as there’s a municipality-owned place in Sunday stroll distance to pretty much everywhere. The only downside are the ludicrously low tables.
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      EDIT: since apparently a bunch of people woke up with the wrong foot this morning or forgot to check the group they’re in:\n
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      This is a joke. Do not steal or vandalize speed enforcement cameras (or anything else for that matter). That’s against the law and you will likely get arrested.\n
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      If you’re addicted to crack or any other drugs, please seek professional help.
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          > You have one bus going in one direction to a school passing another bus going to another school.\n
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          In front of a school? Are your schools connected directly to highways or something?\n
          \n
          > Have you only lived in an inner city where roads can be one way because they alternate in direction every block?\n
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          We don’t have blocks.
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          > Cost. That separate road means buying land from someone and turning it into road. Do they have one way roads for rural schools in Germany? Because I looked at a few Grundschule in Bavaria on Google maps and didn’t see any.\n
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          You’ll have a hard time finding a village with *literally* one single road. Certainly not one 1-2k which is the size that gets the school for the surrounding ones.\n
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          > It is cheaper and more convenient to have a speed camera that is active only during school hours.\n
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          And also completely ineffective at preventing anything.Heck at least use road bumps. Narrow the road only in spots so that two monster trucks if you please fit on comfortably side by side for 50-100m or such, but then it narrows down to half that for just 5m. While you’re at it build a crossing there, narrowing the roads at pedestrian crossing is standard practice in many places and it makes a hell a lot of sense. Yes, that slows down traffic because you might have to negotiate with oncoming traffic who goes first. Yes, that’s precisely the point.
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          > Schools have more than one bus and they have to pass each other.\n
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          No they don’t they can enter from the same side. You’re just looking for excuses. Also why do you need buses in the first place why aren’t the kids walking or biking.
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          Why can’t you have one-way streets in a rural area? Fork off the main street on one end, merge on the other. Pedestrian and bicycle traffic can be bidirectional, cars can take a little detour they don’t use muscle energy.\n
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          > > Wide enough for one pickup and no opposing traffic, but so narrow that two pickups are going to really have to negotiate to move around each other."\n
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          How does that translate to "block the street for buses? If a street fits two pickups it fits two buses. They’ll have to negotiate to move around each other so if you have many (which, as I told you a lot, you shouldn’t) you should consider a one-way road, or maybe a meeting bay, or a wider street with choke points, or whatever. But it’s not “blocking the road for buses”.
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          Not an issue in Europe. Though granted the US would probably need to replace their fire trucks with sanely-sized ones. You also don’t need to haul a big-ass ladder in a low-density area what’s your plan use it to do a header into a suburban pool.\n
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          Regarding response time absence of gridlock will be more important than the last hundred metres on a residential street, consider investing in public transportation, walkable cities, and generally everything that abolishes owning and using a car being mandatory.
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          Things aren’t done differently, in principle, in villages. You were the one brining up blocks or did you mean “buildings surrounded by roads *and fields*”.\n
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          [This is Wacken](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.0275469,9.3755654,169m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) (*the* Wacken), I zoomed you in on the primary school. There’s surrounding villages without school so it’s bound to get bus traffic. Note how it’s on a street that’s wide enough for that, but not the main road, the one with all the through-traffic. Can you understand that principle. (Main Roads, actually, Wacken has two, Schenefelder and Hauptstraße).\n
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          > I only took issue with the ridiculous idea that the roads in front of rural US schools could be made safer by making them impassable by busses.\n
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          Noone ever said that? At least I didn’t.
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          > A block in the US doesn’t mean a square either.\n
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          Yes, great, blame a non native speaker for expressing himself incorrectly, correcting himself, and then quadruple down on it. I was thinking of unprioritised NY-style blocks you see all over the place in US cities, gridlock magnets. You know, places where people say “down the block” and generally measure distances in blocks.\n
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          > It is required that children do not cross two lane roads to be picked up by school buses. I don’t make the rules. I don’t have a solution to US car culture. But making roads unpassable by school buses isn’t an answer.\n
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          If you look back at that Hamburg link, at those streets internal to the superblock, you’ll notice that they *are* wide enough for buses to go through. There’s no regular bus lines through there (there’s two metro stations and plenty of bus stops surrounding it) but a school bus isn’t regular service, it doesn’t need to play by the same rules. You can make a pickup at one of those very spacious intersections. It’s not being done because there’s schools in walking distance and German kids can cross roads but it *could* be done. Would you, however, ever speed on those roads.
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          US suburbia has a higher density than the German countryside, having to travel 24km is nuts. That’d be defensible if you live in a tiny settlement 24km from a place with more than two dozen houses – I’m sure those exist in the US but suburbia isn’t that.\n
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          How many pupils were there at your school? My state has 106240 pupils in 393 primary schools, that’s an average of 270. Minimum size under ordinary circumstances is 80, the smallest is on Nordstrandischmoor: An island, 18 inhabitants, five families, one school, one teacher, two students, [here it is](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.5518864,8.8108853,16z?entry=ttu). That’s because we don’t do boarding in primary education so there’s a maximum tolerable commute time/distance, once those kids are old enough they’ll spend Monday through Friday on the mainland.\n
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          If your system insists that a school have at least 2k students or such then, yes, of course, walking to school will be an impossibility for most. Fix your school sizes and like 99% of students will be able to walk or bike, use buses or minivans or whatnot for the rest we do that too (not really possible in Nordstrandischmoor, thing doesn’t even have a ferry but a rail link that’s only usable when the tide is low).\n
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          And no it wasn’t my school it was my Kindergarten, which wasn’t, by a long shot, the closest to home it was the one my parents chose. I mentioned it to say that biking 3.5km is something a 4yold can do, physically, without any issue at all really.
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          > Roads are typically 2 lanes one in each direction. You already know this because you said a solution would be to remove the lane marker.\n
          \n
          I’m someone else.\n
          \n
          > So you have a road with an elementary school, and 2 miles further down is a middle school. Even without that you have buses passing each other during pickup because busses only pickup kids on one side of the street so you don’t have young kids crossing roads.\n
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          Lots of questions here: Why can’t kids walk 500m to the next bus stop? Why are streets so unsafe so that kids can’t cross them?\n
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          Why assume that there’s no larger road in between those smaller roads? Roads generally form a hierarchy, you have big ones feeding into middle ones feeding into small ones. Small ones should absolutely be safe to cross, also without explicit crossings, because they’re traffic calmed and don’t have much traffic in the first place. That’s where houses and schools are, where there’s no through-traffic because even if they aren’t cul de sacs who would drive through a road you can’t drive fast on when there’s a mid-level road that you could take.\n
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          > What do you call a section of inner city bounded on all sides by a road in your country?\n
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          Straßenblock. Let me put it differently: We don’t have grids and nothing is regular. [This is about as grid-y as it gets](https://www.google.com/maps/@53.5753832,9.9851206,1090m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) and if you zoom in you’ll notice that the interior streets have no lane markers and some even are cobbled. Those connect to a street ( south, Hallerstraße) with bike lanes (don’t need those on smaller streets because there’s not enough traffic to warrant them), which connects to a four-lane (plus bus lane) street, Grindelalle, west. The intersection looks a bit crazy but it’s actually safe for pedestrians and you should’ve learned how to cross streets safely and what traffic lights are in Kindergarten. You’ve also been there with your parents (going shopping or whatever) a lot of times, nothing scary really. That kind of density and housing is probably illegal to build where you are (it’s illegal pretty much everywhere in the US and Canada).\n
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          And mind you Hamburg is awful when it comes to urbanism, way too car-centric. Not because of lack of public transport but because politicians are unwilling to kill off car traffic and the whole city is full of rich fucks with too much disposable income.
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    Let me look at a map… maybe 1km max anywhere in my 30k town to the next primary school and that’s when you’re living on the very very edge of town. Should be under 500m for most pupils.\n
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    If you’re living in a rural area, outside of the next village (which will have a school), which is an absolute exception as things tend to cluster into villages in rural areas, it might be 5km. Not really an issue with a bike, I biked what 3.5km to Kindergarten (together with my mom). If you have less density than that you probably should have boarding schools.\n
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    For secondary education, if you’re living in a village you’ll probably have to take the bus to the nearest city. Regular public transport though the schedule will take school times into account. Yes, kids can walk 500m to the nearest station.\n
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    Bonus: All that school density – smaller but way more of them – means that there’s obvious places to hold elections as there’s a municipality-owned place in Sunday stroll distance to pretty much everywhere. The only downside are the ludicrously low tables.
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      EDIT: since apparently a bunch of people woke up with the wrong foot this morning or forgot to check the group they’re in:\n
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      If you’re addicted to crack or any other drugs, please seek professional help.
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          > You have one bus going in one direction to a school passing another bus going to another school.\n
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          In front of a school? Are your schools connected directly to highways or something?\n
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          > Have you only lived in an inner city where roads can be one way because they alternate in direction every block?\n
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          We don’t have blocks.
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          > Cost. That separate road means buying land from someone and turning it into road. Do they have one way roads for rural schools in Germany? Because I looked at a few Grundschule in Bavaria on Google maps and didn’t see any.\n
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          You’ll have a hard time finding a village with *literally* one single road. Certainly not one 1-2k which is the size that gets the school for the surrounding ones.\n
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          > It is cheaper and more convenient to have a speed camera that is active only during school hours.\n
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          And also completely ineffective at preventing anything.Heck at least use road bumps. Narrow the road only in spots so that two monster trucks if you please fit on comfortably side by side for 50-100m or such, but then it narrows down to half that for just 5m. While you’re at it build a crossing there, narrowing the roads at pedestrian crossing is standard practice in many places and it makes a hell a lot of sense. Yes, that slows down traffic because you might have to negotiate with oncoming traffic who goes first. Yes, that’s precisely the point.
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          > Schools have more than one bus and they have to pass each other.\n
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          No they don’t they can enter from the same side. You’re just looking for excuses. Also why do you need buses in the first place why aren’t the kids walking or biking.
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          Why can’t you have one-way streets in a rural area? Fork off the main street on one end, merge on the other. Pedestrian and bicycle traffic can be bidirectional, cars can take a little detour they don’t use muscle energy.\n
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          > > Wide enough for one pickup and no opposing traffic, but so narrow that two pickups are going to really have to negotiate to move around each other."\n
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          How does that translate to "block the street for buses? If a street fits two pickups it fits two buses. They’ll have to negotiate to move around each other so if you have many (which, as I told you a lot, you shouldn’t) you should consider a one-way road, or maybe a meeting bay, or a wider street with choke points, or whatever. But it’s not “blocking the road for buses”.
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          Not an issue in Europe. Though granted the US would probably need to replace their fire trucks with sanely-sized ones. You also don’t need to haul a big-ass ladder in a low-density area what’s your plan use it to do a header into a suburban pool.\n
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          Regarding response time absence of gridlock will be more important than the last hundred metres on a residential street, consider investing in public transportation, walkable cities, and generally everything that abolishes owning and using a car being mandatory.
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          Things aren’t done differently, in principle, in villages. You were the one brining up blocks or did you mean “buildings surrounded by roads *and fields*”.\n
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          [This is Wacken](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.0275469,9.3755654,169m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) (*the* Wacken), I zoomed you in on the primary school. There’s surrounding villages without school so it’s bound to get bus traffic. Note how it’s on a street that’s wide enough for that, but not the main road, the one with all the through-traffic. Can you understand that principle. (Main Roads, actually, Wacken has two, Schenefelder and Hauptstraße).\n
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          > I only took issue with the ridiculous idea that the roads in front of rural US schools could be made safer by making them impassable by busses.\n
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          Noone ever said that? At least I didn’t.
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          > A block in the US doesn’t mean a square either.\n
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          Yes, great, blame a non native speaker for expressing himself incorrectly, correcting himself, and then quadruple down on it. I was thinking of unprioritised NY-style blocks you see all over the place in US cities, gridlock magnets. You know, places where people say “down the block” and generally measure distances in blocks.\n
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          > It is required that children do not cross two lane roads to be picked up by school buses. I don’t make the rules. I don’t have a solution to US car culture. But making roads unpassable by school buses isn’t an answer.\n
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          If you look back at that Hamburg link, at those streets internal to the superblock, you’ll notice that they *are* wide enough for buses to go through. There’s no regular bus lines through there (there’s two metro stations and plenty of bus stops surrounding it) but a school bus isn’t regular service, it doesn’t need to play by the same rules. You can make a pickup at one of those very spacious intersections. It’s not being done because there’s schools in walking distance and German kids can cross roads but it *could* be done. Would you, however, ever speed on those roads.
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          US suburbia has a higher density than the German countryside, having to travel 24km is nuts. That’d be defensible if you live in a tiny settlement 24km from a place with more than two dozen houses – I’m sure those exist in the US but suburbia isn’t that.\n
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          How many pupils were there at your school? My state has 106240 pupils in 393 primary schools, that’s an average of 270. Minimum size under ordinary circumstances is 80, the smallest is on Nordstrandischmoor: An island, 18 inhabitants, five families, one school, one teacher, two students, [here it is](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.5518864,8.8108853,16z?entry=ttu). That’s because we don’t do boarding in primary education so there’s a maximum tolerable commute time/distance, once those kids are old enough they’ll spend Monday through Friday on the mainland.\n
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          If your system insists that a school have at least 2k students or such then, yes, of course, walking to school will be an impossibility for most. Fix your school sizes and like 99% of students will be able to walk or bike, use buses or minivans or whatnot for the rest we do that too (not really possible in Nordstrandischmoor, thing doesn’t even have a ferry but a rail link that’s only usable when the tide is low).\n
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          And no it wasn’t my school it was my Kindergarten, which wasn’t, by a long shot, the closest to home it was the one my parents chose. I mentioned it to say that biking 3.5km is something a 4yold can do, physically, without any issue at all really.
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          > Roads are typically 2 lanes one in each direction. You already know this because you said a solution would be to remove the lane marker.\n
          \n
          I’m someone else.\n
          \n
          > So you have a road with an elementary school, and 2 miles further down is a middle school. Even without that you have buses passing each other during pickup because busses only pickup kids on one side of the street so you don’t have young kids crossing roads.\n
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          Lots of questions here: Why can’t kids walk 500m to the next bus stop? Why are streets so unsafe so that kids can’t cross them?\n
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          Why assume that there’s no larger road in between those smaller roads? Roads generally form a hierarchy, you have big ones feeding into middle ones feeding into small ones. Small ones should absolutely be safe to cross, also without explicit crossings, because they’re traffic calmed and don’t have much traffic in the first place. That’s where houses and schools are, where there’s no through-traffic because even if they aren’t cul de sacs who would drive through a road you can’t drive fast on when there’s a mid-level road that you could take.\n
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          > What do you call a section of inner city bounded on all sides by a road in your country?\n
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          Straßenblock. Let me put it differently: We don’t have grids and nothing is regular. [This is about as grid-y as it gets](https://www.google.com/maps/@53.5753832,9.9851206,1090m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) and if you zoom in you’ll notice that the interior streets have no lane markers and some even are cobbled. Those connect to a street ( south, Hallerstraße) with bike lanes (don’t need those on smaller streets because there’s not enough traffic to warrant them), which connects to a four-lane (plus bus lane) street, Grindelalle, west. The intersection looks a bit crazy but it’s actually safe for pedestrians and you should’ve learned how to cross streets safely and what traffic lights are in Kindergarten. You’ve also been there with your parents (going shopping or whatever) a lot of times, nothing scary really. That kind of density and housing is probably illegal to build where you are (it’s illegal pretty much everywhere in the US and Canada).\n
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          And mind you Hamburg is awful when it comes to urbanism, way too car-centric. Not because of lack of public transport but because politicians are unwilling to kill off car traffic and the whole city is full of rich fucks with too much disposable income.
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        > I’m still grateful I don’t have to jump inside one every time I need to write a python script.\n
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    Also, it *is* a time management issue, on a cultural level. Try getting Germans to stay past their shift they’ll tell you to get better at managing. Not their department, not their problem.\n
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    Thinking “fixing this requires a socialist revolution” honestly is part of the problem: Organise to fix the issue, there, workers will see that issues can be fixed, fix more that comes up, and they’ll both be emboldened and educated about their strength. Foreplay before sex.
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    It’s ultimately easy to tell apart because the things in our control have vastly different qualities from those which are not. [Quoth Epictetus](https://classics.mit.edu/Epictetus/epicench.html):\n
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    > Some things are in our control and others not. Things in our control are opinion, pursuit, desire, aversion, and, in a word, whatever are our own actions. Things not in our control are body, property, reputation, command, and, in one word, whatever are not our own actions.\n
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    > The things in our control are by nature free, unrestrained, unhindered; but those not in our control are weak, slavish, restrained, belonging to others. Remember, then, that if you suppose that things which are slavish by nature are also free, and that what belongs to others is your own, then you will be hindered. You will lament, you will be disturbed, and you will find fault both with gods and men. But if you suppose that only to be your own which is your own, and what belongs to others such as it really is, then no one will ever compel you or restrain you. Further, you will find fault with no one or accuse no one. You will do nothing against your will. No one will hurt you, you will have no enemies, and you not be harmed.\n
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    > Aiming therefore at such great things, remember that you must not allow yourself to be carried, even with a slight tendency, towards the attainment of lesser things. Instead, you must entirely quit some things and for the present postpone the rest. But if you would both have these great things, along with power and riches, then you will not gain even the latter, because you aim at the former too: but you will absolutely fail of the former, by which alone happiness and freedom are achieved.\n
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    > Work, therefore to be able to say to every harsh appearance, “You are but an appearance, and not absolutely the thing you appear to be.” And then examine it by those rules which you have, and first, and chiefly, by this: whether it concerns the things which are in our own control, or those which are not; and, if it concerns anything not in our control, be prepared to say that it is nothing to you.\n
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    Now the list of things under our control might seem small – but it’s actually *real* control. You can’t control that an arrow you shoot will hit the target, a gust of wind may take it away and you’re not controlling the wind. Have the opinion (under your control) that you shall hit, and that gust of wind comes, and when you miss you’ll be wretched, so don’t have that opinion. But still do take that shot unless it’s impossible, in which case find a possible one.
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        If we carry this to the meta level: The same people also decided that Leia kills Jabba in that very outfit and generally break a ton of damsel in distress tropes. Now you could say “But Ellen Ripley is just as if not even more badass, why not do that”, well, then you wouldn’t be messaging that getting demeaned by your captors doesn’t change anything about your capacity to badass, that the outfit, or Jabba’s general grossness, does not need to have power over your mind, just as horror doesn’t have power over Ripley’s mind. And you can’t just turn Star Wars into body horror so it has to have different hero characteristics.\n
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        > Didn’t Carrie Fisher say in an interview that Lucas said she couldn’t wear a bra because they don’t have bras in space?\n
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          > Didn’t Carrie Fisher say in an interview that Lucas said she couldn’t wear a bra because they don’t have bras in space?\n
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    > Didn’t Carrie Fisher say in an interview that Lucas said she couldn’t wear a bra because they don’t have bras in space?\n
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