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Components

21 Twig Components
227 Render Count
237 ms Render Time
20.0 MiB Memory Usage

Components

Name Metadata Render Count Render Time
date
"App\Twig\Components\DateComponent"
components/date.html.twig
29 4.53ms
user_inline
"App\Twig\Components\UserInlineComponent"
components/user_inline.html.twig
28 7.69ms
date_edited
"App\Twig\Components\DateEditedComponent"
components/date_edited.html.twig
28 5.31ms
vote
"App\Twig\Components\VoteComponent"
components/vote.html.twig
28 11.10ms
boost
"App\Twig\Components\BoostComponent"
components/boost.html.twig
28 19.81ms
entry_comment
"App\Twig\Components\EntryCommentComponent"
components/entry_comment.html.twig
25 157.77ms
user_avatar
"App\Twig\Components\UserAvatarComponent"
components/user_avatar.html.twig
25 3.60ms
settings_row_switch
"App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent"
components/_settings_row_switch.html.twig
15 11.93ms
user_settings_row_switch
"App\Twig\Components\UserSettingsRowSwitchComponent"
components/_user_settings_row_switch.html.twig
4 0.85ms
entry
"App\Twig\Components\EntryComponent"
components/_cached.html.twig
3 32.06ms
magazine_inline
"App\Twig\Components\MagazineInlineComponent"
components/magazine_inline.html.twig
3 0.48ms
settings_row_enum
"App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowEnumComponent"
components/_settings_row_enum.html.twig
2 0.61ms
user_box
"App\Twig\Components\UserBoxComponent"
components/user_box.html.twig
1 1.36ms
user_actions
"App\Twig\Components\UserActionsComponent"
components/user_actions.html.twig
1 0.82ms
related_magazines
"App\Twig\Components\RelatedMagazinesComponent"
components/_cached.html.twig
1 7.36ms
active_users
"App\Twig\Components\ActiveUsersComponent"
components/_cached.html.twig
1 0.25ms
related_categories
"App\Twig\Components\RelatedCategoriesComponent"
components/_cached.html.twig
1 5.12ms
related_posts
"App\Twig\Components\RelatedPostsComponent"
components/_cached.html.twig
1 9.19ms
related_entries
"App\Twig\Components\RelatedEntriesComponent"
components/_cached.html.twig
1 7.54ms
support_us_block
"App\Twig\Components\SupportUsBlock"
components/_cached.html.twig
1 1.89ms
featured_magazines
"App\Twig\Components\FeaturedMagazinesComponent"
components/_cached.html.twig
1 1.02ms

Render calls

user_box App\Twig\Components\UserBoxComponent 12.0 MiB 1.36 ms
Input props
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]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\UserBoxComponent {#3016
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user_actions App\Twig\Components\UserActionsComponent 12.0 MiB 0.82 ms
Input props
[
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    +email: "OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml"
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    +roles: []
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    +lastActive: DateTime @1728127024 {#275
      date: 2024-10-05 13:17:04.0 +02:00
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]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\UserActionsComponent {#3198
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Input props
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          > But to summarize. You basically want to wreck the current system on the basis that everyone will be diligent, reading all the time, just for the “greater good”, more so than their own profit.\n
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          No, that’s a strawman. People won’t all be diligent. But they will be more productive in general when they are not alienated from their labor. This has been proven with a bunch of economic data on socialist countries and data on cooperatives even within a capitalist environment.\n
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          > And btw, about the “bare minimum”. No one has a reason to not do the bare minimum as they don’t get fired (consequences). There will always be the lazy guy who does the bare minimum, and everyone will get lazier because they’ll get jealous with zero consequences.\n
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          You’re just literally describing capitalism and being like, what about this problem under socialism? The consequences are youre not contributing. Do you think everyone is suddenly going to be less motivated when they’re actually able to realize the product of their labor, instead of having a parasite on top taking it?
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          Thats it interesting scenario, but why are you assuming that there is a significant segment that won’t want to learn, especially when they’re no longer alienated from their labor? And why are you assuming that the total laborers will increase with new technology, when you can retrain existing workers?\n
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          I dont think your scenario is realistic, it kinda reads as really misanthropic
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          No, overthrowing capitalism and beginning a transition to a more rational economic system increases your life expectancy. You can literally look up graphs.\n
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          [statista.com/…/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041395/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/)
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        +body: "Yes. All of those countries had more civil rights and longer life expectancy after the revolution"
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          See you’re still trapped within the logic of capitalism which maximizes profits and expansion over other concerns.\n
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          > So, assuming we want to keep everyone (including useless people who’d rather have beer instead of reading a book to learn the new stuff), the income of everyone will just go down over time. Eventually, with no one getting fire there won’t be enough money to go around to feed them. What am I missing here?\n
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          These are all massive assumptions
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          Unfortunately in the case of econ 101, you are taught that 2+2=5 most modern econ is neoclassical, which means operating on pre-marx economics and just ignoring marxist critiques of the political economy.\n
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          > and money falls from the sky, and everyone being lazy leads to growth, I’ll ask them to justify.\n
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          Thats a mighty strawman you invented. Workers are going to do the bare minimum to not get fired when it literally doesn’t matter how much they work, their income will be the same. When workers are invested in an organization, they do more work.
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        +body: "THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves."
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        +body: """
          Literally sharing nazi propaganda from Hearst press lol\n
          \n
          Anyway, capitalism is known for never having famines or economic crises, especially not cyclical ones
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          You literally only have one question, the rest of it is opining.\n
          \n
          You’re assuming a wage labor model and that people working twice as efficiently and at half intensity would result in decreased production.\n
          \n
          1. wage labor models aren’t universal\n
          2. there is no reasoning stated for why production would go down\n
          \n
          You’re assuming people would have to be fired to maintain competitive growth. This is based on the logic of firms competing to capture market share. There isn’t really a rational reason for this to need to happen under systems were the point is to accommodate human need, not to maximize profit.
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        +body: "Do you think the shareholders are active in problem solving? Workers include basically everyone but the shareholders. The tech guys, the executives, the managers."
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        +body: "Read the economy and class structure of german fascism if you want a detailed explanation for “scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds”"
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        +body: """
          > And yes, the only pro-Western nation ever falling into a serious Food-Crisis was… Haiti.\n
          \n
          Read Late Victorian Holocausts if you want to be less wrong.\n
          \n
          > Well, actually I am sharing “Wikipedia Propaganda” but if you want to call Wikipedia Nazi-Propaganda…\n
          \n
          The holodomor was originally fabricated by a hearst press associate at a time when Mr Hearst and the third Reich were openly collaborating on spreading nazi propaganda in the US. The famine was bad but the myth that it was a genocide needs to die as it is literally nazi propaganda and was used as a justification for collaborating with the holocaust in Eastern Europe\n
          \n
          This is in fact the mainstream academic position. You may look to Conquest, Davies, and Wheatcroft, who are genuinely anticommunist historians, for their analysis (they all say it wasn’t a genocide)
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          > Because the fraction of the current world that reads every day and learns every day is extremely small.\n
          \n
          Socialist countries are famous for literacy and education drives\n
          \n
          > Again, like I said before, how many people around you come back from work and want to read technical books and watch courses instead of chilling, or hanging out with friends? I have two friends who are nut jobs like me and work all the time. EVERYONE else is lazy and just wants to have fun after work, and that’s in my circle. This spans over decades in the different jobs and sectors I worked at, in different countries. Do you have a different experience around you? I have trouble convincing people to read for 30 minutes every day.\n
          \n
          I dont think it is reasonable to assume humans will act the same way in all conditions. I know people who just slack off, and its generally because there is no incentive not to do the bare minimum when you are alienated from your labor
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          Better to have them making the decision than capitalists, who make more money for paying employees less\n
          \n
          Also who says half of them have to be fired? Can’t everyone just work less?
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          Your only question is “what am I missing” and the answer is an economics education.\n
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          But to address your “concerns” you’re operating on the mindset of maximizing profit to compete against other firms maximizing profit, which is only a problem under capitalism (until you reach the monopoly stage)
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          > Late Victorian Age\n
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          It is literally a book about western liberal democracies committing genocide, including through intentionally creating famines.\n
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          > But to summarize. You basically want to wreck the current system on the basis that everyone will be diligent, reading all the time, just for the “greater good”, more so than their own profit.\n
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          No, that’s a strawman. People won’t all be diligent. But they will be more productive in general when they are not alienated from their labor. This has been proven with a bunch of economic data on socialist countries and data on cooperatives even within a capitalist environment.\n
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          You’re just literally describing capitalism and being like, what about this problem under socialism? The consequences are youre not contributing. Do you think everyone is suddenly going to be less motivated when they’re actually able to realize the product of their labor, instead of having a parasite on top taking it?
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          Thats it interesting scenario, but why are you assuming that there is a significant segment that won’t want to learn, especially when they’re no longer alienated from their labor? And why are you assuming that the total laborers will increase with new technology, when you can retrain existing workers?\n
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          I dont think your scenario is realistic, it kinda reads as really misanthropic
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          No, overthrowing capitalism and beginning a transition to a more rational economic system increases your life expectancy. You can literally look up graphs.\n
          \n
          [statista.com/…/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041395/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/)
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        +body: "Yes. All of those countries had more civil rights and longer life expectancy after the revolution"
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          See you’re still trapped within the logic of capitalism which maximizes profits and expansion over other concerns.\n
          \n
          > So, assuming we want to keep everyone (including useless people who’d rather have beer instead of reading a book to learn the new stuff), the income of everyone will just go down over time. Eventually, with no one getting fire there won’t be enough money to go around to feed them. What am I missing here?\n
          \n
          These are all massive assumptions
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          Unfortunately in the case of econ 101, you are taught that 2+2=5 most modern econ is neoclassical, which means operating on pre-marx economics and just ignoring marxist critiques of the political economy.\n
          \n
          > and money falls from the sky, and everyone being lazy leads to growth, I’ll ask them to justify.\n
          \n
          Thats a mighty strawman you invented. Workers are going to do the bare minimum to not get fired when it literally doesn’t matter how much they work, their income will be the same. When workers are invested in an organization, they do more work.
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        +body: "THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves."
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          Literally sharing nazi propaganda from Hearst press lol\n
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          Anyway, capitalism is known for never having famines or economic crises, especially not cyclical ones
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          You literally only have one question, the rest of it is opining.\n
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          You’re assuming a wage labor model and that people working twice as efficiently and at half intensity would result in decreased production.\n
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          1. wage labor models aren’t universal\n
          2. there is no reasoning stated for why production would go down\n
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          You’re assuming people would have to be fired to maintain competitive growth. This is based on the logic of firms competing to capture market share. There isn’t really a rational reason for this to need to happen under systems were the point is to accommodate human need, not to maximize profit.
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        +body: "Do you think the shareholders are active in problem solving? Workers include basically everyone but the shareholders. The tech guys, the executives, the managers."
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        +body: "Read the economy and class structure of german fascism if you want a detailed explanation for “scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds”"
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        +body: """
          > And yes, the only pro-Western nation ever falling into a serious Food-Crisis was… Haiti.\n
          \n
          Read Late Victorian Holocausts if you want to be less wrong.\n
          \n
          > Well, actually I am sharing “Wikipedia Propaganda” but if you want to call Wikipedia Nazi-Propaganda…\n
          \n
          The holodomor was originally fabricated by a hearst press associate at a time when Mr Hearst and the third Reich were openly collaborating on spreading nazi propaganda in the US. The famine was bad but the myth that it was a genocide needs to die as it is literally nazi propaganda and was used as a justification for collaborating with the holocaust in Eastern Europe\n
          \n
          This is in fact the mainstream academic position. You may look to Conquest, Davies, and Wheatcroft, who are genuinely anticommunist historians, for their analysis (they all say it wasn’t a genocide)
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          > Because the fraction of the current world that reads every day and learns every day is extremely small.\n
          \n
          Socialist countries are famous for literacy and education drives\n
          \n
          > Again, like I said before, how many people around you come back from work and want to read technical books and watch courses instead of chilling, or hanging out with friends? I have two friends who are nut jobs like me and work all the time. EVERYONE else is lazy and just wants to have fun after work, and that’s in my circle. This spans over decades in the different jobs and sectors I worked at, in different countries. Do you have a different experience around you? I have trouble convincing people to read for 30 minutes every day.\n
          \n
          I dont think it is reasonable to assume humans will act the same way in all conditions. I know people who just slack off, and its generally because there is no incentive not to do the bare minimum when you are alienated from your labor
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          Better to have them making the decision than capitalists, who make more money for paying employees less\n
          \n
          Also who says half of them have to be fired? Can’t everyone just work less?
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          Your only question is “what am I missing” and the answer is an economics education.\n
          \n
          But to address your “concerns” you’re operating on the mindset of maximizing profit to compete against other firms maximizing profit, which is only a problem under capitalism (until you reach the monopoly stage)
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          > Late Victorian Age\n
          \n
          It is literally a book about western liberal democracies committing genocide, including through intentionally creating famines.\n
          \n
          > Oh, and you claim the Holodomor didn’t happen? Well, let me guess, Stalin also didn’t got 30 million sowiet people killed?\n
          \n
          Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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        +body: "Read “riding the wave” fo learn about how Scandinavian countries are beneficiaries of the imperialist system"
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      19 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#2193
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        +body: """
          I will repeat:\n
          \n
          Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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      0 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#2094
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        +body: """
          > Maybe you’ll change your mind one day and understand why the world we live in is the way we live in.\n
          \n
          This from the person who is spouting econ 101 nonsense.
          """
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          > But to summarize. You basically want to wreck the current system on the basis that everyone will be diligent, reading all the time, just for the “greater good”, more so than their own profit.\n
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          No, that’s a strawman. People won’t all be diligent. But they will be more productive in general when they are not alienated from their labor. This has been proven with a bunch of economic data on socialist countries and data on cooperatives even within a capitalist environment.\n
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          > And btw, about the “bare minimum”. No one has a reason to not do the bare minimum as they don’t get fired (consequences). There will always be the lazy guy who does the bare minimum, and everyone will get lazier because they’ll get jealous with zero consequences.\n
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          You’re just literally describing capitalism and being like, what about this problem under socialism? The consequences are youre not contributing. Do you think everyone is suddenly going to be less motivated when they’re actually able to realize the product of their labor, instead of having a parasite on top taking it?
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          Thats it interesting scenario, but why are you assuming that there is a significant segment that won’t want to learn, especially when they’re no longer alienated from their labor? And why are you assuming that the total laborers will increase with new technology, when you can retrain existing workers?\n
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          I dont think your scenario is realistic, it kinda reads as really misanthropic
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          No, overthrowing capitalism and beginning a transition to a more rational economic system increases your life expectancy. You can literally look up graphs.\n
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          [statista.com/…/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041395/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/)
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        +body: "Yes. All of those countries had more civil rights and longer life expectancy after the revolution"
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          See you’re still trapped within the logic of capitalism which maximizes profits and expansion over other concerns.\n
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          > So, assuming we want to keep everyone (including useless people who’d rather have beer instead of reading a book to learn the new stuff), the income of everyone will just go down over time. Eventually, with no one getting fire there won’t be enough money to go around to feed them. What am I missing here?\n
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          These are all massive assumptions
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          Unfortunately in the case of econ 101, you are taught that 2+2=5 most modern econ is neoclassical, which means operating on pre-marx economics and just ignoring marxist critiques of the political economy.\n
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          > and money falls from the sky, and everyone being lazy leads to growth, I’ll ask them to justify.\n
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          Thats a mighty strawman you invented. Workers are going to do the bare minimum to not get fired when it literally doesn’t matter how much they work, their income will be the same. When workers are invested in an organization, they do more work.
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          Literally sharing nazi propaganda from Hearst press lol\n
          \n
          Anyway, capitalism is known for never having famines or economic crises, especially not cyclical ones
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          You literally only have one question, the rest of it is opining.\n
          \n
          You’re assuming a wage labor model and that people working twice as efficiently and at half intensity would result in decreased production.\n
          \n
          1. wage labor models aren’t universal\n
          2. there is no reasoning stated for why production would go down\n
          \n
          You’re assuming people would have to be fired to maintain competitive growth. This is based on the logic of firms competing to capture market share. There isn’t really a rational reason for this to need to happen under systems were the point is to accommodate human need, not to maximize profit.
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        +body: "Do you think the shareholders are active in problem solving? Workers include basically everyone but the shareholders. The tech guys, the executives, the managers."
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        +body: "Read the economy and class structure of german fascism if you want a detailed explanation for “scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds”"
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          > And yes, the only pro-Western nation ever falling into a serious Food-Crisis was… Haiti.\n
          \n
          Read Late Victorian Holocausts if you want to be less wrong.\n
          \n
          > Well, actually I am sharing “Wikipedia Propaganda” but if you want to call Wikipedia Nazi-Propaganda…\n
          \n
          The holodomor was originally fabricated by a hearst press associate at a time when Mr Hearst and the third Reich were openly collaborating on spreading nazi propaganda in the US. The famine was bad but the myth that it was a genocide needs to die as it is literally nazi propaganda and was used as a justification for collaborating with the holocaust in Eastern Europe\n
          \n
          This is in fact the mainstream academic position. You may look to Conquest, Davies, and Wheatcroft, who are genuinely anticommunist historians, for their analysis (they all say it wasn’t a genocide)
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          > Because the fraction of the current world that reads every day and learns every day is extremely small.\n
          \n
          Socialist countries are famous for literacy and education drives\n
          \n
          > Again, like I said before, how many people around you come back from work and want to read technical books and watch courses instead of chilling, or hanging out with friends? I have two friends who are nut jobs like me and work all the time. EVERYONE else is lazy and just wants to have fun after work, and that’s in my circle. This spans over decades in the different jobs and sectors I worked at, in different countries. Do you have a different experience around you? I have trouble convincing people to read for 30 minutes every day.\n
          \n
          I dont think it is reasonable to assume humans will act the same way in all conditions. I know people who just slack off, and its generally because there is no incentive not to do the bare minimum when you are alienated from your labor
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          Better to have them making the decision than capitalists, who make more money for paying employees less\n
          \n
          Also who says half of them have to be fired? Can’t everyone just work less?
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          Your only question is “what am I missing” and the answer is an economics education.\n
          \n
          But to address your “concerns” you’re operating on the mindset of maximizing profit to compete against other firms maximizing profit, which is only a problem under capitalism (until you reach the monopoly stage)
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          > Late Victorian Age\n
          \n
          It is literally a book about western liberal democracies committing genocide, including through intentionally creating famines.\n
          \n
          > Oh, and you claim the Holodomor didn’t happen? Well, let me guess, Stalin also didn’t got 30 million sowiet people killed?\n
          \n
          Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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          > But to summarize. You basically want to wreck the current system on the basis that everyone will be diligent, reading all the time, just for the “greater good”, more so than their own profit.\n
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          You’re just literally describing capitalism and being like, what about this problem under socialism? The consequences are youre not contributing. Do you think everyone is suddenly going to be less motivated when they’re actually able to realize the product of their labor, instead of having a parasite on top taking it?
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          Thats it interesting scenario, but why are you assuming that there is a significant segment that won’t want to learn, especially when they’re no longer alienated from their labor? And why are you assuming that the total laborers will increase with new technology, when you can retrain existing workers?\n
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          I dont think your scenario is realistic, it kinda reads as really misanthropic
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          No, overthrowing capitalism and beginning a transition to a more rational economic system increases your life expectancy. You can literally look up graphs.\n
          \n
          [statista.com/…/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041395/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/)
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        +body: "Yes. All of those countries had more civil rights and longer life expectancy after the revolution"
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          See you’re still trapped within the logic of capitalism which maximizes profits and expansion over other concerns.\n
          \n
          > So, assuming we want to keep everyone (including useless people who’d rather have beer instead of reading a book to learn the new stuff), the income of everyone will just go down over time. Eventually, with no one getting fire there won’t be enough money to go around to feed them. What am I missing here?\n
          \n
          These are all massive assumptions
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          Unfortunately in the case of econ 101, you are taught that 2+2=5 most modern econ is neoclassical, which means operating on pre-marx economics and just ignoring marxist critiques of the political economy.\n
          \n
          > and money falls from the sky, and everyone being lazy leads to growth, I’ll ask them to justify.\n
          \n
          Thats a mighty strawman you invented. Workers are going to do the bare minimum to not get fired when it literally doesn’t matter how much they work, their income will be the same. When workers are invested in an organization, they do more work.
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        +body: "THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves."
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          Literally sharing nazi propaganda from Hearst press lol\n
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          Anyway, capitalism is known for never having famines or economic crises, especially not cyclical ones
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          You literally only have one question, the rest of it is opining.\n
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          You’re assuming a wage labor model and that people working twice as efficiently and at half intensity would result in decreased production.\n
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          1. wage labor models aren’t universal\n
          2. there is no reasoning stated for why production would go down\n
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          You’re assuming people would have to be fired to maintain competitive growth. This is based on the logic of firms competing to capture market share. There isn’t really a rational reason for this to need to happen under systems were the point is to accommodate human need, not to maximize profit.
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        +body: "Do you think the shareholders are active in problem solving? Workers include basically everyone but the shareholders. The tech guys, the executives, the managers."
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        +body: "Read the economy and class structure of german fascism if you want a detailed explanation for “scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds”"
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          > And yes, the only pro-Western nation ever falling into a serious Food-Crisis was… Haiti.\n
          \n
          Read Late Victorian Holocausts if you want to be less wrong.\n
          \n
          > Well, actually I am sharing “Wikipedia Propaganda” but if you want to call Wikipedia Nazi-Propaganda…\n
          \n
          The holodomor was originally fabricated by a hearst press associate at a time when Mr Hearst and the third Reich were openly collaborating on spreading nazi propaganda in the US. The famine was bad but the myth that it was a genocide needs to die as it is literally nazi propaganda and was used as a justification for collaborating with the holocaust in Eastern Europe\n
          \n
          This is in fact the mainstream academic position. You may look to Conquest, Davies, and Wheatcroft, who are genuinely anticommunist historians, for their analysis (they all say it wasn’t a genocide)
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          > Because the fraction of the current world that reads every day and learns every day is extremely small.\n
          \n
          Socialist countries are famous for literacy and education drives\n
          \n
          > Again, like I said before, how many people around you come back from work and want to read technical books and watch courses instead of chilling, or hanging out with friends? I have two friends who are nut jobs like me and work all the time. EVERYONE else is lazy and just wants to have fun after work, and that’s in my circle. This spans over decades in the different jobs and sectors I worked at, in different countries. Do you have a different experience around you? I have trouble convincing people to read for 30 minutes every day.\n
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          I dont think it is reasonable to assume humans will act the same way in all conditions. I know people who just slack off, and its generally because there is no incentive not to do the bare minimum when you are alienated from your labor
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          Better to have them making the decision than capitalists, who make more money for paying employees less\n
          \n
          Also who says half of them have to be fired? Can’t everyone just work less?
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          Your only question is “what am I missing” and the answer is an economics education.\n
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          But to address your “concerns” you’re operating on the mindset of maximizing profit to compete against other firms maximizing profit, which is only a problem under capitalism (until you reach the monopoly stage)
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          > Late Victorian Age\n
          \n
          It is literally a book about western liberal democracies committing genocide, including through intentionally creating famines.\n
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          > Oh, and you claim the Holodomor didn’t happen? Well, let me guess, Stalin also didn’t got 30 million sowiet people killed?\n
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          Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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        +body: "Read “riding the wave” fo learn about how Scandinavian countries are beneficiaries of the imperialist system"
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          I will repeat:\n
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          Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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          > Maybe you’ll change your mind one day and understand why the world we live in is the way we live in.\n
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          This from the person who is spouting econ 101 nonsense.
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          > But to summarize. You basically want to wreck the current system on the basis that everyone will be diligent, reading all the time, just for the “greater good”, more so than their own profit.\n
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          No, that’s a strawman. People won’t all be diligent. But they will be more productive in general when they are not alienated from their labor. This has been proven with a bunch of economic data on socialist countries and data on cooperatives even within a capitalist environment.\n
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          > And btw, about the “bare minimum”. No one has a reason to not do the bare minimum as they don’t get fired (consequences). There will always be the lazy guy who does the bare minimum, and everyone will get lazier because they’ll get jealous with zero consequences.\n
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          You’re just literally describing capitalism and being like, what about this problem under socialism? The consequences are youre not contributing. Do you think everyone is suddenly going to be less motivated when they’re actually able to realize the product of their labor, instead of having a parasite on top taking it?
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          Thats it interesting scenario, but why are you assuming that there is a significant segment that won’t want to learn, especially when they’re no longer alienated from their labor? And why are you assuming that the total laborers will increase with new technology, when you can retrain existing workers?\n
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          I dont think your scenario is realistic, it kinda reads as really misanthropic
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          No, overthrowing capitalism and beginning a transition to a more rational economic system increases your life expectancy. You can literally look up graphs.\n
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          [statista.com/…/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041395/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/)
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          See you’re still trapped within the logic of capitalism which maximizes profits and expansion over other concerns.\n
          \n
          > So, assuming we want to keep everyone (including useless people who’d rather have beer instead of reading a book to learn the new stuff), the income of everyone will just go down over time. Eventually, with no one getting fire there won’t be enough money to go around to feed them. What am I missing here?\n
          \n
          These are all massive assumptions
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          Unfortunately in the case of econ 101, you are taught that 2+2=5 most modern econ is neoclassical, which means operating on pre-marx economics and just ignoring marxist critiques of the political economy.\n
          \n
          > and money falls from the sky, and everyone being lazy leads to growth, I’ll ask them to justify.\n
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          Thats a mighty strawman you invented. Workers are going to do the bare minimum to not get fired when it literally doesn’t matter how much they work, their income will be the same. When workers are invested in an organization, they do more work.
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        +body: "THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves."
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          Literally sharing nazi propaganda from Hearst press lol\n
          \n
          Anyway, capitalism is known for never having famines or economic crises, especially not cyclical ones
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          You literally only have one question, the rest of it is opining.\n
          \n
          You’re assuming a wage labor model and that people working twice as efficiently and at half intensity would result in decreased production.\n
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          1. wage labor models aren’t universal\n
          2. there is no reasoning stated for why production would go down\n
          \n
          You’re assuming people would have to be fired to maintain competitive growth. This is based on the logic of firms competing to capture market share. There isn’t really a rational reason for this to need to happen under systems were the point is to accommodate human need, not to maximize profit.
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        +body: "Do you think the shareholders are active in problem solving? Workers include basically everyone but the shareholders. The tech guys, the executives, the managers."
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        +body: "Read the economy and class structure of german fascism if you want a detailed explanation for “scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds”"
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          > And yes, the only pro-Western nation ever falling into a serious Food-Crisis was… Haiti.\n
          \n
          Read Late Victorian Holocausts if you want to be less wrong.\n
          \n
          > Well, actually I am sharing “Wikipedia Propaganda” but if you want to call Wikipedia Nazi-Propaganda…\n
          \n
          The holodomor was originally fabricated by a hearst press associate at a time when Mr Hearst and the third Reich were openly collaborating on spreading nazi propaganda in the US. The famine was bad but the myth that it was a genocide needs to die as it is literally nazi propaganda and was used as a justification for collaborating with the holocaust in Eastern Europe\n
          \n
          This is in fact the mainstream academic position. You may look to Conquest, Davies, and Wheatcroft, who are genuinely anticommunist historians, for their analysis (they all say it wasn’t a genocide)
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          > Because the fraction of the current world that reads every day and learns every day is extremely small.\n
          \n
          Socialist countries are famous for literacy and education drives\n
          \n
          > Again, like I said before, how many people around you come back from work and want to read technical books and watch courses instead of chilling, or hanging out with friends? I have two friends who are nut jobs like me and work all the time. EVERYONE else is lazy and just wants to have fun after work, and that’s in my circle. This spans over decades in the different jobs and sectors I worked at, in different countries. Do you have a different experience around you? I have trouble convincing people to read for 30 minutes every day.\n
          \n
          I dont think it is reasonable to assume humans will act the same way in all conditions. I know people who just slack off, and its generally because there is no incentive not to do the bare minimum when you are alienated from your labor
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          Better to have them making the decision than capitalists, who make more money for paying employees less\n
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          Also who says half of them have to be fired? Can’t everyone just work less?
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          Your only question is “what am I missing” and the answer is an economics education.\n
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          But to address your “concerns” you’re operating on the mindset of maximizing profit to compete against other firms maximizing profit, which is only a problem under capitalism (until you reach the monopoly stage)
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          > Late Victorian Age\n
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          It is literally a book about western liberal democracies committing genocide, including through intentionally creating famines.\n
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          > Oh, and you claim the Holodomor didn’t happen? Well, let me guess, Stalin also didn’t got 30 million sowiet people killed?\n
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          > But to summarize. You basically want to wreck the current system on the basis that everyone will be diligent, reading all the time, just for the “greater good”, more so than their own profit.\n
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          No, that’s a strawman. People won’t all be diligent. But they will be more productive in general when they are not alienated from their labor. This has been proven with a bunch of economic data on socialist countries and data on cooperatives even within a capitalist environment.\n
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          > And btw, about the “bare minimum”. No one has a reason to not do the bare minimum as they don’t get fired (consequences). There will always be the lazy guy who does the bare minimum, and everyone will get lazier because they’ll get jealous with zero consequences.\n
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          You’re just literally describing capitalism and being like, what about this problem under socialism? The consequences are youre not contributing. Do you think everyone is suddenly going to be less motivated when they’re actually able to realize the product of their labor, instead of having a parasite on top taking it?
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          Thats it interesting scenario, but why are you assuming that there is a significant segment that won’t want to learn, especially when they’re no longer alienated from their labor? And why are you assuming that the total laborers will increase with new technology, when you can retrain existing workers?\n
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          I dont think your scenario is realistic, it kinda reads as really misanthropic
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          No, overthrowing capitalism and beginning a transition to a more rational economic system increases your life expectancy. You can literally look up graphs.\n
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          [statista.com/…/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041395/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/)
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        +body: "Yes. All of those countries had more civil rights and longer life expectancy after the revolution"
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          See you’re still trapped within the logic of capitalism which maximizes profits and expansion over other concerns.\n
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          > So, assuming we want to keep everyone (including useless people who’d rather have beer instead of reading a book to learn the new stuff), the income of everyone will just go down over time. Eventually, with no one getting fire there won’t be enough money to go around to feed them. What am I missing here?\n
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          These are all massive assumptions
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          Unfortunately in the case of econ 101, you are taught that 2+2=5 most modern econ is neoclassical, which means operating on pre-marx economics and just ignoring marxist critiques of the political economy.\n
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          > and money falls from the sky, and everyone being lazy leads to growth, I’ll ask them to justify.\n
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          Thats a mighty strawman you invented. Workers are going to do the bare minimum to not get fired when it literally doesn’t matter how much they work, their income will be the same. When workers are invested in an organization, they do more work.
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        +body: "THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves."
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          Literally sharing nazi propaganda from Hearst press lol\n
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          Anyway, capitalism is known for never having famines or economic crises, especially not cyclical ones
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          You literally only have one question, the rest of it is opining.\n
          \n
          You’re assuming a wage labor model and that people working twice as efficiently and at half intensity would result in decreased production.\n
          \n
          1. wage labor models aren’t universal\n
          2. there is no reasoning stated for why production would go down\n
          \n
          You’re assuming people would have to be fired to maintain competitive growth. This is based on the logic of firms competing to capture market share. There isn’t really a rational reason for this to need to happen under systems were the point is to accommodate human need, not to maximize profit.
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        +body: "Do you think the shareholders are active in problem solving? Workers include basically everyone but the shareholders. The tech guys, the executives, the managers."
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        +body: "Read the economy and class structure of german fascism if you want a detailed explanation for “scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds”"
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          > And yes, the only pro-Western nation ever falling into a serious Food-Crisis was… Haiti.\n
          \n
          Read Late Victorian Holocausts if you want to be less wrong.\n
          \n
          > Well, actually I am sharing “Wikipedia Propaganda” but if you want to call Wikipedia Nazi-Propaganda…\n
          \n
          The holodomor was originally fabricated by a hearst press associate at a time when Mr Hearst and the third Reich were openly collaborating on spreading nazi propaganda in the US. The famine was bad but the myth that it was a genocide needs to die as it is literally nazi propaganda and was used as a justification for collaborating with the holocaust in Eastern Europe\n
          \n
          This is in fact the mainstream academic position. You may look to Conquest, Davies, and Wheatcroft, who are genuinely anticommunist historians, for their analysis (they all say it wasn’t a genocide)
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          > Because the fraction of the current world that reads every day and learns every day is extremely small.\n
          \n
          Socialist countries are famous for literacy and education drives\n
          \n
          > Again, like I said before, how many people around you come back from work and want to read technical books and watch courses instead of chilling, or hanging out with friends? I have two friends who are nut jobs like me and work all the time. EVERYONE else is lazy and just wants to have fun after work, and that’s in my circle. This spans over decades in the different jobs and sectors I worked at, in different countries. Do you have a different experience around you? I have trouble convincing people to read for 30 minutes every day.\n
          \n
          I dont think it is reasonable to assume humans will act the same way in all conditions. I know people who just slack off, and its generally because there is no incentive not to do the bare minimum when you are alienated from your labor
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          Better to have them making the decision than capitalists, who make more money for paying employees less\n
          \n
          Also who says half of them have to be fired? Can’t everyone just work less?
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          Your only question is “what am I missing” and the answer is an economics education.\n
          \n
          But to address your “concerns” you’re operating on the mindset of maximizing profit to compete against other firms maximizing profit, which is only a problem under capitalism (until you reach the monopoly stage)
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          > Late Victorian Age\n
          \n
          It is literally a book about western liberal democracies committing genocide, including through intentionally creating famines.\n
          \n
          > Oh, and you claim the Holodomor didn’t happen? Well, let me guess, Stalin also didn’t got 30 million sowiet people killed?\n
          \n
          Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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        +body: "Read “riding the wave” fo learn about how Scandinavian countries are beneficiaries of the imperialist system"
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          I will repeat:\n
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          Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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          > Maybe you’ll change your mind one day and understand why the world we live in is the way we live in.\n
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          This from the person who is spouting econ 101 nonsense.
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            Thats it interesting scenario, but why are you assuming that there is a significant segment that won’t want to learn, especially when they’re no longer alienated from their labor? And why are you assuming that the total laborers will increase with new technology, when you can retrain existing workers?\n
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            No, overthrowing capitalism and beginning a transition to a more rational economic system increases your life expectancy. You can literally look up graphs.\n
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            [statista.com/…/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041395/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/)
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          +body: "Yes. All of those countries had more civil rights and longer life expectancy after the revolution"
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            See you’re still trapped within the logic of capitalism which maximizes profits and expansion over other concerns.\n
            \n
            > So, assuming we want to keep everyone (including useless people who’d rather have beer instead of reading a book to learn the new stuff), the income of everyone will just go down over time. Eventually, with no one getting fire there won’t be enough money to go around to feed them. What am I missing here?\n
            \n
            These are all massive assumptions
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            Unfortunately in the case of econ 101, you are taught that 2+2=5 most modern econ is neoclassical, which means operating on pre-marx economics and just ignoring marxist critiques of the political economy.\n
            \n
            > and money falls from the sky, and everyone being lazy leads to growth, I’ll ask them to justify.\n
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            Thats a mighty strawman you invented. Workers are going to do the bare minimum to not get fired when it literally doesn’t matter how much they work, their income will be the same. When workers are invested in an organization, they do more work.
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          +body: "THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves."
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            Literally sharing nazi propaganda from Hearst press lol\n
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            Anyway, capitalism is known for never having famines or economic crises, especially not cyclical ones
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            You literally only have one question, the rest of it is opining.\n
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            You’re assuming a wage labor model and that people working twice as efficiently and at half intensity would result in decreased production.\n
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            1. wage labor models aren’t universal\n
            2. there is no reasoning stated for why production would go down\n
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            You’re assuming people would have to be fired to maintain competitive growth. This is based on the logic of firms competing to capture market share. There isn’t really a rational reason for this to need to happen under systems were the point is to accommodate human need, not to maximize profit.
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          +body: "Do you think the shareholders are active in problem solving? Workers include basically everyone but the shareholders. The tech guys, the executives, the managers."
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          +body: "Read the economy and class structure of german fascism if you want a detailed explanation for “scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds”"
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          +body: """
            > And yes, the only pro-Western nation ever falling into a serious Food-Crisis was… Haiti.\n
            \n
            Read Late Victorian Holocausts if you want to be less wrong.\n
            \n
            > Well, actually I am sharing “Wikipedia Propaganda” but if you want to call Wikipedia Nazi-Propaganda…\n
            \n
            The holodomor was originally fabricated by a hearst press associate at a time when Mr Hearst and the third Reich were openly collaborating on spreading nazi propaganda in the US. The famine was bad but the myth that it was a genocide needs to die as it is literally nazi propaganda and was used as a justification for collaborating with the holocaust in Eastern Europe\n
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            This is in fact the mainstream academic position. You may look to Conquest, Davies, and Wheatcroft, who are genuinely anticommunist historians, for their analysis (they all say it wasn’t a genocide)
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            > Because the fraction of the current world that reads every day and learns every day is extremely small.\n
            \n
            Socialist countries are famous for literacy and education drives\n
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            Better to have them making the decision than capitalists, who make more money for paying employees less\n
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            Also who says half of them have to be fired? Can’t everyone just work less?
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            Your only question is “what am I missing” and the answer is an economics education.\n
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            But to address your “concerns” you’re operating on the mindset of maximizing profit to compete against other firms maximizing profit, which is only a problem under capitalism (until you reach the monopoly stage)
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            > Late Victorian Age\n
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            It is literally a book about western liberal democracies committing genocide, including through intentionally creating famines.\n
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            > Oh, and you claim the Holodomor didn’t happen? Well, let me guess, Stalin also didn’t got 30 million sowiet people killed?\n
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            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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          +body: "Read “riding the wave” fo learn about how Scandinavian countries are beneficiaries of the imperialist system"
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            I will repeat:\n
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            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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            > Maybe you’ll change your mind one day and understand why the world we live in is the way we live in.\n
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            This from the person who is spouting econ 101 nonsense.
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      > But to summarize. You basically want to wreck the current system on the basis that everyone will be diligent, reading all the time, just for the “greater good”, more so than their own profit.\n
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      No, that’s a strawman. People won’t all be diligent. But they will be more productive in general when they are not alienated from their labor. This has been proven with a bunch of economic data on socialist countries and data on cooperatives even within a capitalist environment.\n
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      You’re just literally describing capitalism and being like, what about this problem under socialism? The consequences are youre not contributing. Do you think everyone is suddenly going to be less motivated when they’re actually able to realize the product of their labor, instead of having a parasite on top taking it?
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            Thats it interesting scenario, but why are you assuming that there is a significant segment that won’t want to learn, especially when they’re no longer alienated from their labor? And why are you assuming that the total laborers will increase with new technology, when you can retrain existing workers?\n
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            No, overthrowing capitalism and beginning a transition to a more rational economic system increases your life expectancy. You can literally look up graphs.\n
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            [statista.com/…/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041395/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/)
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          +body: "Yes. All of those countries had more civil rights and longer life expectancy after the revolution"
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            See you’re still trapped within the logic of capitalism which maximizes profits and expansion over other concerns.\n
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            > So, assuming we want to keep everyone (including useless people who’d rather have beer instead of reading a book to learn the new stuff), the income of everyone will just go down over time. Eventually, with no one getting fire there won’t be enough money to go around to feed them. What am I missing here?\n
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            These are all massive assumptions
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            Unfortunately in the case of econ 101, you are taught that 2+2=5 most modern econ is neoclassical, which means operating on pre-marx economics and just ignoring marxist critiques of the political economy.\n
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            > and money falls from the sky, and everyone being lazy leads to growth, I’ll ask them to justify.\n
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            Thats a mighty strawman you invented. Workers are going to do the bare minimum to not get fired when it literally doesn’t matter how much they work, their income will be the same. When workers are invested in an organization, they do more work.
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          +body: "THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves."
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            Literally sharing nazi propaganda from Hearst press lol\n
            \n
            Anyway, capitalism is known for never having famines or economic crises, especially not cyclical ones
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            You literally only have one question, the rest of it is opining.\n
            \n
            You’re assuming a wage labor model and that people working twice as efficiently and at half intensity would result in decreased production.\n
            \n
            1. wage labor models aren’t universal\n
            2. there is no reasoning stated for why production would go down\n
            \n
            You’re assuming people would have to be fired to maintain competitive growth. This is based on the logic of firms competing to capture market share. There isn’t really a rational reason for this to need to happen under systems were the point is to accommodate human need, not to maximize profit.
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          +body: "Do you think the shareholders are active in problem solving? Workers include basically everyone but the shareholders. The tech guys, the executives, the managers."
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          +body: "Read the economy and class structure of german fascism if you want a detailed explanation for “scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds”"
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            > And yes, the only pro-Western nation ever falling into a serious Food-Crisis was… Haiti.\n
            \n
            Read Late Victorian Holocausts if you want to be less wrong.\n
            \n
            > Well, actually I am sharing “Wikipedia Propaganda” but if you want to call Wikipedia Nazi-Propaganda…\n
            \n
            The holodomor was originally fabricated by a hearst press associate at a time when Mr Hearst and the third Reich were openly collaborating on spreading nazi propaganda in the US. The famine was bad but the myth that it was a genocide needs to die as it is literally nazi propaganda and was used as a justification for collaborating with the holocaust in Eastern Europe\n
            \n
            This is in fact the mainstream academic position. You may look to Conquest, Davies, and Wheatcroft, who are genuinely anticommunist historians, for their analysis (they all say it wasn’t a genocide)
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            > Because the fraction of the current world that reads every day and learns every day is extremely small.\n
            \n
            Socialist countries are famous for literacy and education drives\n
            \n
            > Again, like I said before, how many people around you come back from work and want to read technical books and watch courses instead of chilling, or hanging out with friends? I have two friends who are nut jobs like me and work all the time. EVERYONE else is lazy and just wants to have fun after work, and that’s in my circle. This spans over decades in the different jobs and sectors I worked at, in different countries. Do you have a different experience around you? I have trouble convincing people to read for 30 minutes every day.\n
            \n
            I dont think it is reasonable to assume humans will act the same way in all conditions. I know people who just slack off, and its generally because there is no incentive not to do the bare minimum when you are alienated from your labor
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            Better to have them making the decision than capitalists, who make more money for paying employees less\n
            \n
            Also who says half of them have to be fired? Can’t everyone just work less?
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            Your only question is “what am I missing” and the answer is an economics education.\n
            \n
            But to address your “concerns” you’re operating on the mindset of maximizing profit to compete against other firms maximizing profit, which is only a problem under capitalism (until you reach the monopoly stage)
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            > Late Victorian Age\n
            \n
            It is literally a book about western liberal democracies committing genocide, including through intentionally creating famines.\n
            \n
            > Oh, and you claim the Holodomor didn’t happen? Well, let me guess, Stalin also didn’t got 30 million sowiet people killed?\n
            \n
            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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            I will repeat:\n
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            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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            > Maybe you’ll change your mind one day and understand why the world we live in is the way we live in.\n
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            This from the person who is spouting econ 101 nonsense.
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      > But to summarize. You basically want to wreck the current system on the basis that everyone will be diligent, reading all the time, just for the “greater good”, more so than their own profit.\n
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      No, that’s a strawman. People won’t all be diligent. But they will be more productive in general when they are not alienated from their labor. This has been proven with a bunch of economic data on socialist countries and data on cooperatives even within a capitalist environment.\n
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      > And btw, about the “bare minimum”. No one has a reason to not do the bare minimum as they don’t get fired (consequences). There will always be the lazy guy who does the bare minimum, and everyone will get lazier because they’ll get jealous with zero consequences.\n
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      You’re just literally describing capitalism and being like, what about this problem under socialism? The consequences are youre not contributing. Do you think everyone is suddenly going to be less motivated when they’re actually able to realize the product of their labor, instead of having a parasite on top taking it?
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            Thats it interesting scenario, but why are you assuming that there is a significant segment that won’t want to learn, especially when they’re no longer alienated from their labor? And why are you assuming that the total laborers will increase with new technology, when you can retrain existing workers?\n
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            No, overthrowing capitalism and beginning a transition to a more rational economic system increases your life expectancy. You can literally look up graphs.\n
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            [statista.com/…/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041395/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/)
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          +body: "Yes. All of those countries had more civil rights and longer life expectancy after the revolution"
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            See you’re still trapped within the logic of capitalism which maximizes profits and expansion over other concerns.\n
            \n
            > So, assuming we want to keep everyone (including useless people who’d rather have beer instead of reading a book to learn the new stuff), the income of everyone will just go down over time. Eventually, with no one getting fire there won’t be enough money to go around to feed them. What am I missing here?\n
            \n
            These are all massive assumptions
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            Unfortunately in the case of econ 101, you are taught that 2+2=5 most modern econ is neoclassical, which means operating on pre-marx economics and just ignoring marxist critiques of the political economy.\n
            \n
            > and money falls from the sky, and everyone being lazy leads to growth, I’ll ask them to justify.\n
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            Thats a mighty strawman you invented. Workers are going to do the bare minimum to not get fired when it literally doesn’t matter how much they work, their income will be the same. When workers are invested in an organization, they do more work.
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          +body: "THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves."
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            Literally sharing nazi propaganda from Hearst press lol\n
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            Anyway, capitalism is known for never having famines or economic crises, especially not cyclical ones
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            You literally only have one question, the rest of it is opining.\n
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            You’re assuming a wage labor model and that people working twice as efficiently and at half intensity would result in decreased production.\n
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            1. wage labor models aren’t universal\n
            2. there is no reasoning stated for why production would go down\n
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            You’re assuming people would have to be fired to maintain competitive growth. This is based on the logic of firms competing to capture market share. There isn’t really a rational reason for this to need to happen under systems were the point is to accommodate human need, not to maximize profit.
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          +body: "Do you think the shareholders are active in problem solving? Workers include basically everyone but the shareholders. The tech guys, the executives, the managers."
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          +body: "Read the economy and class structure of german fascism if you want a detailed explanation for “scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds”"
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          +body: """
            > And yes, the only pro-Western nation ever falling into a serious Food-Crisis was… Haiti.\n
            \n
            Read Late Victorian Holocausts if you want to be less wrong.\n
            \n
            > Well, actually I am sharing “Wikipedia Propaganda” but if you want to call Wikipedia Nazi-Propaganda…\n
            \n
            The holodomor was originally fabricated by a hearst press associate at a time when Mr Hearst and the third Reich were openly collaborating on spreading nazi propaganda in the US. The famine was bad but the myth that it was a genocide needs to die as it is literally nazi propaganda and was used as a justification for collaborating with the holocaust in Eastern Europe\n
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            This is in fact the mainstream academic position. You may look to Conquest, Davies, and Wheatcroft, who are genuinely anticommunist historians, for their analysis (they all say it wasn’t a genocide)
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            > Because the fraction of the current world that reads every day and learns every day is extremely small.\n
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            Socialist countries are famous for literacy and education drives\n
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            > Again, like I said before, how many people around you come back from work and want to read technical books and watch courses instead of chilling, or hanging out with friends? I have two friends who are nut jobs like me and work all the time. EVERYONE else is lazy and just wants to have fun after work, and that’s in my circle. This spans over decades in the different jobs and sectors I worked at, in different countries. Do you have a different experience around you? I have trouble convincing people to read for 30 minutes every day.\n
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            Better to have them making the decision than capitalists, who make more money for paying employees less\n
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            Also who says half of them have to be fired? Can’t everyone just work less?
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            Your only question is “what am I missing” and the answer is an economics education.\n
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            But to address your “concerns” you’re operating on the mindset of maximizing profit to compete against other firms maximizing profit, which is only a problem under capitalism (until you reach the monopoly stage)
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            > Late Victorian Age\n
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            It is literally a book about western liberal democracies committing genocide, including through intentionally creating famines.\n
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            > Oh, and you claim the Holodomor didn’t happen? Well, let me guess, Stalin also didn’t got 30 million sowiet people killed?\n
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            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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          +body: "Read “riding the wave” fo learn about how Scandinavian countries are beneficiaries of the imperialist system"
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            I will repeat:\n
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            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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            > Maybe you’ll change your mind one day and understand why the world we live in is the way we live in.\n
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            This from the person who is spouting econ 101 nonsense.
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      > But to summarize. You basically want to wreck the current system on the basis that everyone will be diligent, reading all the time, just for the “greater good”, more so than their own profit.\n
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      No, that’s a strawman. People won’t all be diligent. But they will be more productive in general when they are not alienated from their labor. This has been proven with a bunch of economic data on socialist countries and data on cooperatives even within a capitalist environment.\n
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      You’re just literally describing capitalism and being like, what about this problem under socialism? The consequences are youre not contributing. Do you think everyone is suddenly going to be less motivated when they’re actually able to realize the product of their labor, instead of having a parasite on top taking it?
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            Thats it interesting scenario, but why are you assuming that there is a significant segment that won’t want to learn, especially when they’re no longer alienated from their labor? And why are you assuming that the total laborers will increase with new technology, when you can retrain existing workers?\n
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            No, overthrowing capitalism and beginning a transition to a more rational economic system increases your life expectancy. You can literally look up graphs.\n
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            [statista.com/…/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041395/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/)
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          +body: "Yes. All of those countries had more civil rights and longer life expectancy after the revolution"
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            See you’re still trapped within the logic of capitalism which maximizes profits and expansion over other concerns.\n
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            > So, assuming we want to keep everyone (including useless people who’d rather have beer instead of reading a book to learn the new stuff), the income of everyone will just go down over time. Eventually, with no one getting fire there won’t be enough money to go around to feed them. What am I missing here?\n
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            These are all massive assumptions
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            Unfortunately in the case of econ 101, you are taught that 2+2=5 most modern econ is neoclassical, which means operating on pre-marx economics and just ignoring marxist critiques of the political economy.\n
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            > and money falls from the sky, and everyone being lazy leads to growth, I’ll ask them to justify.\n
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            Thats a mighty strawman you invented. Workers are going to do the bare minimum to not get fired when it literally doesn’t matter how much they work, their income will be the same. When workers are invested in an organization, they do more work.
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          +body: "THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves."
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            Literally sharing nazi propaganda from Hearst press lol\n
            \n
            Anyway, capitalism is known for never having famines or economic crises, especially not cyclical ones
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            You literally only have one question, the rest of it is opining.\n
            \n
            You’re assuming a wage labor model and that people working twice as efficiently and at half intensity would result in decreased production.\n
            \n
            1. wage labor models aren’t universal\n
            2. there is no reasoning stated for why production would go down\n
            \n
            You’re assuming people would have to be fired to maintain competitive growth. This is based on the logic of firms competing to capture market share. There isn’t really a rational reason for this to need to happen under systems were the point is to accommodate human need, not to maximize profit.
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          +body: "Do you think the shareholders are active in problem solving? Workers include basically everyone but the shareholders. The tech guys, the executives, the managers."
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          +body: "Read the economy and class structure of german fascism if you want a detailed explanation for “scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds”"
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            > And yes, the only pro-Western nation ever falling into a serious Food-Crisis was… Haiti.\n
            \n
            Read Late Victorian Holocausts if you want to be less wrong.\n
            \n
            > Well, actually I am sharing “Wikipedia Propaganda” but if you want to call Wikipedia Nazi-Propaganda…\n
            \n
            The holodomor was originally fabricated by a hearst press associate at a time when Mr Hearst and the third Reich were openly collaborating on spreading nazi propaganda in the US. The famine was bad but the myth that it was a genocide needs to die as it is literally nazi propaganda and was used as a justification for collaborating with the holocaust in Eastern Europe\n
            \n
            This is in fact the mainstream academic position. You may look to Conquest, Davies, and Wheatcroft, who are genuinely anticommunist historians, for their analysis (they all say it wasn’t a genocide)
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            > Because the fraction of the current world that reads every day and learns every day is extremely small.\n
            \n
            Socialist countries are famous for literacy and education drives\n
            \n
            > Again, like I said before, how many people around you come back from work and want to read technical books and watch courses instead of chilling, or hanging out with friends? I have two friends who are nut jobs like me and work all the time. EVERYONE else is lazy and just wants to have fun after work, and that’s in my circle. This spans over decades in the different jobs and sectors I worked at, in different countries. Do you have a different experience around you? I have trouble convincing people to read for 30 minutes every day.\n
            \n
            I dont think it is reasonable to assume humans will act the same way in all conditions. I know people who just slack off, and its generally because there is no incentive not to do the bare minimum when you are alienated from your labor
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            Better to have them making the decision than capitalists, who make more money for paying employees less\n
            \n
            Also who says half of them have to be fired? Can’t everyone just work less?
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            Your only question is “what am I missing” and the answer is an economics education.\n
            \n
            But to address your “concerns” you’re operating on the mindset of maximizing profit to compete against other firms maximizing profit, which is only a problem under capitalism (until you reach the monopoly stage)
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            > Late Victorian Age\n
            \n
            It is literally a book about western liberal democracies committing genocide, including through intentionally creating famines.\n
            \n
            > Oh, and you claim the Holodomor didn’t happen? Well, let me guess, Stalin also didn’t got 30 million sowiet people killed?\n
            \n
            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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            I will repeat:\n
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            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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            > Maybe you’ll change your mind one day and understand why the world we live in is the way we live in.\n
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            This from the person who is spouting econ 101 nonsense.
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      > But to summarize. You basically want to wreck the current system on the basis that everyone will be diligent, reading all the time, just for the “greater good”, more so than their own profit.\n
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      No, that’s a strawman. People won’t all be diligent. But they will be more productive in general when they are not alienated from their labor. This has been proven with a bunch of economic data on socialist countries and data on cooperatives even within a capitalist environment.\n
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            Thats it interesting scenario, but why are you assuming that there is a significant segment that won’t want to learn, especially when they’re no longer alienated from their labor? And why are you assuming that the total laborers will increase with new technology, when you can retrain existing workers?\n
            \n
            I dont think your scenario is realistic, it kinda reads as really misanthropic
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            No, overthrowing capitalism and beginning a transition to a more rational economic system increases your life expectancy. You can literally look up graphs.\n
            \n
            [statista.com/…/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041395/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/)
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          +body: "Yes. All of those countries had more civil rights and longer life expectancy after the revolution"
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            See you’re still trapped within the logic of capitalism which maximizes profits and expansion over other concerns.\n
            \n
            > So, assuming we want to keep everyone (including useless people who’d rather have beer instead of reading a book to learn the new stuff), the income of everyone will just go down over time. Eventually, with no one getting fire there won’t be enough money to go around to feed them. What am I missing here?\n
            \n
            These are all massive assumptions
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            Unfortunately in the case of econ 101, you are taught that 2+2=5 most modern econ is neoclassical, which means operating on pre-marx economics and just ignoring marxist critiques of the political economy.\n
            \n
            > and money falls from the sky, and everyone being lazy leads to growth, I’ll ask them to justify.\n
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            Thats a mighty strawman you invented. Workers are going to do the bare minimum to not get fired when it literally doesn’t matter how much they work, their income will be the same. When workers are invested in an organization, they do more work.
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          +body: "THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves."
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            Literally sharing nazi propaganda from Hearst press lol\n
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            Anyway, capitalism is known for never having famines or economic crises, especially not cyclical ones
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            You literally only have one question, the rest of it is opining.\n
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            You’re assuming a wage labor model and that people working twice as efficiently and at half intensity would result in decreased production.\n
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            1. wage labor models aren’t universal\n
            2. there is no reasoning stated for why production would go down\n
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            You’re assuming people would have to be fired to maintain competitive growth. This is based on the logic of firms competing to capture market share. There isn’t really a rational reason for this to need to happen under systems were the point is to accommodate human need, not to maximize profit.
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          +body: "Do you think the shareholders are active in problem solving? Workers include basically everyone but the shareholders. The tech guys, the executives, the managers."
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          +body: "Read the economy and class structure of german fascism if you want a detailed explanation for “scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds”"
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            > And yes, the only pro-Western nation ever falling into a serious Food-Crisis was… Haiti.\n
            \n
            Read Late Victorian Holocausts if you want to be less wrong.\n
            \n
            > Well, actually I am sharing “Wikipedia Propaganda” but if you want to call Wikipedia Nazi-Propaganda…\n
            \n
            The holodomor was originally fabricated by a hearst press associate at a time when Mr Hearst and the third Reich were openly collaborating on spreading nazi propaganda in the US. The famine was bad but the myth that it was a genocide needs to die as it is literally nazi propaganda and was used as a justification for collaborating with the holocaust in Eastern Europe\n
            \n
            This is in fact the mainstream academic position. You may look to Conquest, Davies, and Wheatcroft, who are genuinely anticommunist historians, for their analysis (they all say it wasn’t a genocide)
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            > Because the fraction of the current world that reads every day and learns every day is extremely small.\n
            \n
            Socialist countries are famous for literacy and education drives\n
            \n
            > Again, like I said before, how many people around you come back from work and want to read technical books and watch courses instead of chilling, or hanging out with friends? I have two friends who are nut jobs like me and work all the time. EVERYONE else is lazy and just wants to have fun after work, and that’s in my circle. This spans over decades in the different jobs and sectors I worked at, in different countries. Do you have a different experience around you? I have trouble convincing people to read for 30 minutes every day.\n
            \n
            I dont think it is reasonable to assume humans will act the same way in all conditions. I know people who just slack off, and its generally because there is no incentive not to do the bare minimum when you are alienated from your labor
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            Better to have them making the decision than capitalists, who make more money for paying employees less\n
            \n
            Also who says half of them have to be fired? Can’t everyone just work less?
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            Your only question is “what am I missing” and the answer is an economics education.\n
            \n
            But to address your “concerns” you’re operating on the mindset of maximizing profit to compete against other firms maximizing profit, which is only a problem under capitalism (until you reach the monopoly stage)
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            > Late Victorian Age\n
            \n
            It is literally a book about western liberal democracies committing genocide, including through intentionally creating famines.\n
            \n
            > Oh, and you claim the Holodomor didn’t happen? Well, let me guess, Stalin also didn’t got 30 million sowiet people killed?\n
            \n
            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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          +body: "Read “riding the wave” fo learn about how Scandinavian countries are beneficiaries of the imperialist system"
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            I will repeat:\n
            \n
            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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            > Maybe you’ll change your mind one day and understand why the world we live in is the way we live in.\n
            \n
            This from the person who is spouting econ 101 nonsense.
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      > But to summarize. You basically want to wreck the current system on the basis that everyone will be diligent, reading all the time, just for the “greater good”, more so than their own profit.\n
      \n
      No, that’s a strawman. People won’t all be diligent. But they will be more productive in general when they are not alienated from their labor. This has been proven with a bunch of economic data on socialist countries and data on cooperatives even within a capitalist environment.\n
      \n
      > And btw, about the “bare minimum”. No one has a reason to not do the bare minimum as they don’t get fired (consequences). There will always be the lazy guy who does the bare minimum, and everyone will get lazier because they’ll get jealous with zero consequences.\n
      \n
      You’re just literally describing capitalism and being like, what about this problem under socialism? The consequences are youre not contributing. Do you think everyone is suddenly going to be less motivated when they’re actually able to realize the product of their labor, instead of having a parasite on top taking it?
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            Thats it interesting scenario, but why are you assuming that there is a significant segment that won’t want to learn, especially when they’re no longer alienated from their labor? And why are you assuming that the total laborers will increase with new technology, when you can retrain existing workers?\n
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            No, overthrowing capitalism and beginning a transition to a more rational economic system increases your life expectancy. You can literally look up graphs.\n
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            See you’re still trapped within the logic of capitalism which maximizes profits and expansion over other concerns.\n
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            Unfortunately in the case of econ 101, you are taught that 2+2=5 most modern econ is neoclassical, which means operating on pre-marx economics and just ignoring marxist critiques of the political economy.\n
            \n
            > and money falls from the sky, and everyone being lazy leads to growth, I’ll ask them to justify.\n
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            Thats a mighty strawman you invented. Workers are going to do the bare minimum to not get fired when it literally doesn’t matter how much they work, their income will be the same. When workers are invested in an organization, they do more work.
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          +body: "THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves."
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            Literally sharing nazi propaganda from Hearst press lol\n
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            Anyway, capitalism is known for never having famines or economic crises, especially not cyclical ones
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            You literally only have one question, the rest of it is opining.\n
            \n
            You’re assuming a wage labor model and that people working twice as efficiently and at half intensity would result in decreased production.\n
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            1. wage labor models aren’t universal\n
            2. there is no reasoning stated for why production would go down\n
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            You’re assuming people would have to be fired to maintain competitive growth. This is based on the logic of firms competing to capture market share. There isn’t really a rational reason for this to need to happen under systems were the point is to accommodate human need, not to maximize profit.
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          +body: "Do you think the shareholders are active in problem solving? Workers include basically everyone but the shareholders. The tech guys, the executives, the managers."
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          +body: "Read the economy and class structure of german fascism if you want a detailed explanation for “scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds”"
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          +body: """
            > And yes, the only pro-Western nation ever falling into a serious Food-Crisis was… Haiti.\n
            \n
            Read Late Victorian Holocausts if you want to be less wrong.\n
            \n
            > Well, actually I am sharing “Wikipedia Propaganda” but if you want to call Wikipedia Nazi-Propaganda…\n
            \n
            The holodomor was originally fabricated by a hearst press associate at a time when Mr Hearst and the third Reich were openly collaborating on spreading nazi propaganda in the US. The famine was bad but the myth that it was a genocide needs to die as it is literally nazi propaganda and was used as a justification for collaborating with the holocaust in Eastern Europe\n
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            This is in fact the mainstream academic position. You may look to Conquest, Davies, and Wheatcroft, who are genuinely anticommunist historians, for their analysis (they all say it wasn’t a genocide)
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            > Because the fraction of the current world that reads every day and learns every day is extremely small.\n
            \n
            Socialist countries are famous for literacy and education drives\n
            \n
            > Again, like I said before, how many people around you come back from work and want to read technical books and watch courses instead of chilling, or hanging out with friends? I have two friends who are nut jobs like me and work all the time. EVERYONE else is lazy and just wants to have fun after work, and that’s in my circle. This spans over decades in the different jobs and sectors I worked at, in different countries. Do you have a different experience around you? I have trouble convincing people to read for 30 minutes every day.\n
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            I dont think it is reasonable to assume humans will act the same way in all conditions. I know people who just slack off, and its generally because there is no incentive not to do the bare minimum when you are alienated from your labor
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            Better to have them making the decision than capitalists, who make more money for paying employees less\n
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            Also who says half of them have to be fired? Can’t everyone just work less?
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            Your only question is “what am I missing” and the answer is an economics education.\n
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            But to address your “concerns” you’re operating on the mindset of maximizing profit to compete against other firms maximizing profit, which is only a problem under capitalism (until you reach the monopoly stage)
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            > Late Victorian Age\n
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            It is literally a book about western liberal democracies committing genocide, including through intentionally creating famines.\n
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            > Oh, and you claim the Holodomor didn’t happen? Well, let me guess, Stalin also didn’t got 30 million sowiet people killed?\n
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            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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          +body: "Read “riding the wave” fo learn about how Scandinavian countries are beneficiaries of the imperialist system"
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            I will repeat:\n
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            > Maybe you’ll change your mind one day and understand why the world we live in is the way we live in.\n
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            This from the person who is spouting econ 101 nonsense.
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      > But to summarize. You basically want to wreck the current system on the basis that everyone will be diligent, reading all the time, just for the “greater good”, more so than their own profit.\n
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      No, that’s a strawman. People won’t all be diligent. But they will be more productive in general when they are not alienated from their labor. This has been proven with a bunch of economic data on socialist countries and data on cooperatives even within a capitalist environment.\n
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      You’re just literally describing capitalism and being like, what about this problem under socialism? The consequences are youre not contributing. Do you think everyone is suddenly going to be less motivated when they’re actually able to realize the product of their labor, instead of having a parasite on top taking it?
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            > But to summarize. You basically want to wreck the current system on the basis that everyone will be diligent, reading all the time, just for the “greater good”, more so than their own profit.\n
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            No, that’s a strawman. People won’t all be diligent. But they will be more productive in general when they are not alienated from their labor. This has been proven with a bunch of economic data on socialist countries and data on cooperatives even within a capitalist environment.\n
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            You’re just literally describing capitalism and being like, what about this problem under socialism? The consequences are youre not contributing. Do you think everyone is suddenly going to be less motivated when they’re actually able to realize the product of their labor, instead of having a parasite on top taking it?
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            No, overthrowing capitalism and beginning a transition to a more rational economic system increases your life expectancy. You can literally look up graphs.\n
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            [statista.com/…/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041395/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/)
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          +body: "Yes. All of those countries had more civil rights and longer life expectancy after the revolution"
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            See you’re still trapped within the logic of capitalism which maximizes profits and expansion over other concerns.\n
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            > So, assuming we want to keep everyone (including useless people who’d rather have beer instead of reading a book to learn the new stuff), the income of everyone will just go down over time. Eventually, with no one getting fire there won’t be enough money to go around to feed them. What am I missing here?\n
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            These are all massive assumptions
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            Unfortunately in the case of econ 101, you are taught that 2+2=5 most modern econ is neoclassical, which means operating on pre-marx economics and just ignoring marxist critiques of the political economy.\n
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            > and money falls from the sky, and everyone being lazy leads to growth, I’ll ask them to justify.\n
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            Thats a mighty strawman you invented. Workers are going to do the bare minimum to not get fired when it literally doesn’t matter how much they work, their income will be the same. When workers are invested in an organization, they do more work.
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          +body: """
            Literally sharing nazi propaganda from Hearst press lol\n
            \n
            Anyway, capitalism is known for never having famines or economic crises, especially not cyclical ones
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            You literally only have one question, the rest of it is opining.\n
            \n
            You’re assuming a wage labor model and that people working twice as efficiently and at half intensity would result in decreased production.\n
            \n
            1. wage labor models aren’t universal\n
            2. there is no reasoning stated for why production would go down\n
            \n
            You’re assuming people would have to be fired to maintain competitive growth. This is based on the logic of firms competing to capture market share. There isn’t really a rational reason for this to need to happen under systems were the point is to accommodate human need, not to maximize profit.
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          +body: "Do you think the shareholders are active in problem solving? Workers include basically everyone but the shareholders. The tech guys, the executives, the managers."
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          +body: "Read the economy and class structure of german fascism if you want a detailed explanation for “scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds”"
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            > And yes, the only pro-Western nation ever falling into a serious Food-Crisis was… Haiti.\n
            \n
            Read Late Victorian Holocausts if you want to be less wrong.\n
            \n
            > Well, actually I am sharing “Wikipedia Propaganda” but if you want to call Wikipedia Nazi-Propaganda…\n
            \n
            The holodomor was originally fabricated by a hearst press associate at a time when Mr Hearst and the third Reich were openly collaborating on spreading nazi propaganda in the US. The famine was bad but the myth that it was a genocide needs to die as it is literally nazi propaganda and was used as a justification for collaborating with the holocaust in Eastern Europe\n
            \n
            This is in fact the mainstream academic position. You may look to Conquest, Davies, and Wheatcroft, who are genuinely anticommunist historians, for their analysis (they all say it wasn’t a genocide)
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            > Because the fraction of the current world that reads every day and learns every day is extremely small.\n
            \n
            Socialist countries are famous for literacy and education drives\n
            \n
            > Again, like I said before, how many people around you come back from work and want to read technical books and watch courses instead of chilling, or hanging out with friends? I have two friends who are nut jobs like me and work all the time. EVERYONE else is lazy and just wants to have fun after work, and that’s in my circle. This spans over decades in the different jobs and sectors I worked at, in different countries. Do you have a different experience around you? I have trouble convincing people to read for 30 minutes every day.\n
            \n
            I dont think it is reasonable to assume humans will act the same way in all conditions. I know people who just slack off, and its generally because there is no incentive not to do the bare minimum when you are alienated from your labor
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            Better to have them making the decision than capitalists, who make more money for paying employees less\n
            \n
            Also who says half of them have to be fired? Can’t everyone just work less?
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            Your only question is “what am I missing” and the answer is an economics education.\n
            \n
            But to address your “concerns” you’re operating on the mindset of maximizing profit to compete against other firms maximizing profit, which is only a problem under capitalism (until you reach the monopoly stage)
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            > Late Victorian Age\n
            \n
            It is literally a book about western liberal democracies committing genocide, including through intentionally creating famines.\n
            \n
            > Oh, and you claim the Holodomor didn’t happen? Well, let me guess, Stalin also didn’t got 30 million sowiet people killed?\n
            \n
            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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          +body: "Read “riding the wave” fo learn about how Scandinavian countries are beneficiaries of the imperialist system"
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            I will repeat:\n
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            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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            > Maybe you’ll change your mind one day and understand why the world we live in is the way we live in.\n
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            This from the person who is spouting econ 101 nonsense.
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      Thats it interesting scenario, but why are you assuming that there is a significant segment that won’t want to learn, especially when they’re no longer alienated from their labor? And why are you assuming that the total laborers will increase with new technology, when you can retrain existing workers?\n
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            > But to summarize. You basically want to wreck the current system on the basis that everyone will be diligent, reading all the time, just for the “greater good”, more so than their own profit.\n
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            You’re just literally describing capitalism and being like, what about this problem under socialism? The consequences are youre not contributing. Do you think everyone is suddenly going to be less motivated when they’re actually able to realize the product of their labor, instead of having a parasite on top taking it?
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            No, overthrowing capitalism and beginning a transition to a more rational economic system increases your life expectancy. You can literally look up graphs.\n
            \n
            [statista.com/…/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041395/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/)
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          +body: "Yes. All of those countries had more civil rights and longer life expectancy after the revolution"
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            See you’re still trapped within the logic of capitalism which maximizes profits and expansion over other concerns.\n
            \n
            > So, assuming we want to keep everyone (including useless people who’d rather have beer instead of reading a book to learn the new stuff), the income of everyone will just go down over time. Eventually, with no one getting fire there won’t be enough money to go around to feed them. What am I missing here?\n
            \n
            These are all massive assumptions
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            Unfortunately in the case of econ 101, you are taught that 2+2=5 most modern econ is neoclassical, which means operating on pre-marx economics and just ignoring marxist critiques of the political economy.\n
            \n
            > and money falls from the sky, and everyone being lazy leads to growth, I’ll ask them to justify.\n
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            Thats a mighty strawman you invented. Workers are going to do the bare minimum to not get fired when it literally doesn’t matter how much they work, their income will be the same. When workers are invested in an organization, they do more work.
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          +body: "THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves."
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            Literally sharing nazi propaganda from Hearst press lol\n
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            Anyway, capitalism is known for never having famines or economic crises, especially not cyclical ones
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            You literally only have one question, the rest of it is opining.\n
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            You’re assuming a wage labor model and that people working twice as efficiently and at half intensity would result in decreased production.\n
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            1. wage labor models aren’t universal\n
            2. there is no reasoning stated for why production would go down\n
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            You’re assuming people would have to be fired to maintain competitive growth. This is based on the logic of firms competing to capture market share. There isn’t really a rational reason for this to need to happen under systems were the point is to accommodate human need, not to maximize profit.
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          +body: "Do you think the shareholders are active in problem solving? Workers include basically everyone but the shareholders. The tech guys, the executives, the managers."
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            > And yes, the only pro-Western nation ever falling into a serious Food-Crisis was… Haiti.\n
            \n
            Read Late Victorian Holocausts if you want to be less wrong.\n
            \n
            > Well, actually I am sharing “Wikipedia Propaganda” but if you want to call Wikipedia Nazi-Propaganda…\n
            \n
            The holodomor was originally fabricated by a hearst press associate at a time when Mr Hearst and the third Reich were openly collaborating on spreading nazi propaganda in the US. The famine was bad but the myth that it was a genocide needs to die as it is literally nazi propaganda and was used as a justification for collaborating with the holocaust in Eastern Europe\n
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            This is in fact the mainstream academic position. You may look to Conquest, Davies, and Wheatcroft, who are genuinely anticommunist historians, for their analysis (they all say it wasn’t a genocide)
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            > Because the fraction of the current world that reads every day and learns every day is extremely small.\n
            \n
            Socialist countries are famous for literacy and education drives\n
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            > Again, like I said before, how many people around you come back from work and want to read technical books and watch courses instead of chilling, or hanging out with friends? I have two friends who are nut jobs like me and work all the time. EVERYONE else is lazy and just wants to have fun after work, and that’s in my circle. This spans over decades in the different jobs and sectors I worked at, in different countries. Do you have a different experience around you? I have trouble convincing people to read for 30 minutes every day.\n
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            I dont think it is reasonable to assume humans will act the same way in all conditions. I know people who just slack off, and its generally because there is no incentive not to do the bare minimum when you are alienated from your labor
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            Better to have them making the decision than capitalists, who make more money for paying employees less\n
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            Also who says half of them have to be fired? Can’t everyone just work less?
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            Your only question is “what am I missing” and the answer is an economics education.\n
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            But to address your “concerns” you’re operating on the mindset of maximizing profit to compete against other firms maximizing profit, which is only a problem under capitalism (until you reach the monopoly stage)
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            > Late Victorian Age\n
            \n
            It is literally a book about western liberal democracies committing genocide, including through intentionally creating famines.\n
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            > Oh, and you claim the Holodomor didn’t happen? Well, let me guess, Stalin also didn’t got 30 million sowiet people killed?\n
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            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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          +body: "Read “riding the wave” fo learn about how Scandinavian countries are beneficiaries of the imperialist system"
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            I will repeat:\n
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            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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            > Maybe you’ll change your mind one day and understand why the world we live in is the way we live in.\n
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            This from the person who is spouting econ 101 nonsense.
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      Thats it interesting scenario, but why are you assuming that there is a significant segment that won’t want to learn, especially when they’re no longer alienated from their labor? And why are you assuming that the total laborers will increase with new technology, when you can retrain existing workers?\n
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      I dont think your scenario is realistic, it kinda reads as really misanthropic
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            > But to summarize. You basically want to wreck the current system on the basis that everyone will be diligent, reading all the time, just for the “greater good”, more so than their own profit.\n
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            No, that’s a strawman. People won’t all be diligent. But they will be more productive in general when they are not alienated from their labor. This has been proven with a bunch of economic data on socialist countries and data on cooperatives even within a capitalist environment.\n
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            You’re just literally describing capitalism and being like, what about this problem under socialism? The consequences are youre not contributing. Do you think everyone is suddenly going to be less motivated when they’re actually able to realize the product of their labor, instead of having a parasite on top taking it?
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            No, overthrowing capitalism and beginning a transition to a more rational economic system increases your life expectancy. You can literally look up graphs.\n
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            [statista.com/…/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041395/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/)
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          +body: "Yes. All of those countries had more civil rights and longer life expectancy after the revolution"
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            See you’re still trapped within the logic of capitalism which maximizes profits and expansion over other concerns.\n
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            > So, assuming we want to keep everyone (including useless people who’d rather have beer instead of reading a book to learn the new stuff), the income of everyone will just go down over time. Eventually, with no one getting fire there won’t be enough money to go around to feed them. What am I missing here?\n
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            These are all massive assumptions
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            Unfortunately in the case of econ 101, you are taught that 2+2=5 most modern econ is neoclassical, which means operating on pre-marx economics and just ignoring marxist critiques of the political economy.\n
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            > and money falls from the sky, and everyone being lazy leads to growth, I’ll ask them to justify.\n
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            Thats a mighty strawman you invented. Workers are going to do the bare minimum to not get fired when it literally doesn’t matter how much they work, their income will be the same. When workers are invested in an organization, they do more work.
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          +body: """
            Literally sharing nazi propaganda from Hearst press lol\n
            \n
            Anyway, capitalism is known for never having famines or economic crises, especially not cyclical ones
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            You literally only have one question, the rest of it is opining.\n
            \n
            You’re assuming a wage labor model and that people working twice as efficiently and at half intensity would result in decreased production.\n
            \n
            1. wage labor models aren’t universal\n
            2. there is no reasoning stated for why production would go down\n
            \n
            You’re assuming people would have to be fired to maintain competitive growth. This is based on the logic of firms competing to capture market share. There isn’t really a rational reason for this to need to happen under systems were the point is to accommodate human need, not to maximize profit.
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          +body: "Do you think the shareholders are active in problem solving? Workers include basically everyone but the shareholders. The tech guys, the executives, the managers."
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          +body: "Read the economy and class structure of german fascism if you want a detailed explanation for “scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds”"
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            > And yes, the only pro-Western nation ever falling into a serious Food-Crisis was… Haiti.\n
            \n
            Read Late Victorian Holocausts if you want to be less wrong.\n
            \n
            > Well, actually I am sharing “Wikipedia Propaganda” but if you want to call Wikipedia Nazi-Propaganda…\n
            \n
            The holodomor was originally fabricated by a hearst press associate at a time when Mr Hearst and the third Reich were openly collaborating on spreading nazi propaganda in the US. The famine was bad but the myth that it was a genocide needs to die as it is literally nazi propaganda and was used as a justification for collaborating with the holocaust in Eastern Europe\n
            \n
            This is in fact the mainstream academic position. You may look to Conquest, Davies, and Wheatcroft, who are genuinely anticommunist historians, for their analysis (they all say it wasn’t a genocide)
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            > Because the fraction of the current world that reads every day and learns every day is extremely small.\n
            \n
            Socialist countries are famous for literacy and education drives\n
            \n
            > Again, like I said before, how many people around you come back from work and want to read technical books and watch courses instead of chilling, or hanging out with friends? I have two friends who are nut jobs like me and work all the time. EVERYONE else is lazy and just wants to have fun after work, and that’s in my circle. This spans over decades in the different jobs and sectors I worked at, in different countries. Do you have a different experience around you? I have trouble convincing people to read for 30 minutes every day.\n
            \n
            I dont think it is reasonable to assume humans will act the same way in all conditions. I know people who just slack off, and its generally because there is no incentive not to do the bare minimum when you are alienated from your labor
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            Better to have them making the decision than capitalists, who make more money for paying employees less\n
            \n
            Also who says half of them have to be fired? Can’t everyone just work less?
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            Your only question is “what am I missing” and the answer is an economics education.\n
            \n
            But to address your “concerns” you’re operating on the mindset of maximizing profit to compete against other firms maximizing profit, which is only a problem under capitalism (until you reach the monopoly stage)
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            > Late Victorian Age\n
            \n
            It is literally a book about western liberal democracies committing genocide, including through intentionally creating famines.\n
            \n
            > Oh, and you claim the Holodomor didn’t happen? Well, let me guess, Stalin also didn’t got 30 million sowiet people killed?\n
            \n
            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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          +body: "Read “riding the wave” fo learn about how Scandinavian countries are beneficiaries of the imperialist system"
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            I will repeat:\n
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            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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            > Maybe you’ll change your mind one day and understand why the world we live in is the way we live in.\n
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            This from the person who is spouting econ 101 nonsense.
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      Thats it interesting scenario, but why are you assuming that there is a significant segment that won’t want to learn, especially when they’re no longer alienated from their labor? And why are you assuming that the total laborers will increase with new technology, when you can retrain existing workers?\n
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            > But to summarize. You basically want to wreck the current system on the basis that everyone will be diligent, reading all the time, just for the “greater good”, more so than their own profit.\n
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            No, overthrowing capitalism and beginning a transition to a more rational economic system increases your life expectancy. You can literally look up graphs.\n
            \n
            [statista.com/…/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041395/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/)
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          +body: "Yes. All of those countries had more civil rights and longer life expectancy after the revolution"
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            See you’re still trapped within the logic of capitalism which maximizes profits and expansion over other concerns.\n
            \n
            > So, assuming we want to keep everyone (including useless people who’d rather have beer instead of reading a book to learn the new stuff), the income of everyone will just go down over time. Eventually, with no one getting fire there won’t be enough money to go around to feed them. What am I missing here?\n
            \n
            These are all massive assumptions
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            Unfortunately in the case of econ 101, you are taught that 2+2=5 most modern econ is neoclassical, which means operating on pre-marx economics and just ignoring marxist critiques of the political economy.\n
            \n
            > and money falls from the sky, and everyone being lazy leads to growth, I’ll ask them to justify.\n
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            Thats a mighty strawman you invented. Workers are going to do the bare minimum to not get fired when it literally doesn’t matter how much they work, their income will be the same. When workers are invested in an organization, they do more work.
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          +body: "THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves."
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            Literally sharing nazi propaganda from Hearst press lol\n
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            Anyway, capitalism is known for never having famines or economic crises, especially not cyclical ones
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            You literally only have one question, the rest of it is opining.\n
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            You’re assuming a wage labor model and that people working twice as efficiently and at half intensity would result in decreased production.\n
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            1. wage labor models aren’t universal\n
            2. there is no reasoning stated for why production would go down\n
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            You’re assuming people would have to be fired to maintain competitive growth. This is based on the logic of firms competing to capture market share. There isn’t really a rational reason for this to need to happen under systems were the point is to accommodate human need, not to maximize profit.
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          +body: "Do you think the shareholders are active in problem solving? Workers include basically everyone but the shareholders. The tech guys, the executives, the managers."
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            > And yes, the only pro-Western nation ever falling into a serious Food-Crisis was… Haiti.\n
            \n
            Read Late Victorian Holocausts if you want to be less wrong.\n
            \n
            > Well, actually I am sharing “Wikipedia Propaganda” but if you want to call Wikipedia Nazi-Propaganda…\n
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            The holodomor was originally fabricated by a hearst press associate at a time when Mr Hearst and the third Reich were openly collaborating on spreading nazi propaganda in the US. The famine was bad but the myth that it was a genocide needs to die as it is literally nazi propaganda and was used as a justification for collaborating with the holocaust in Eastern Europe\n
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            This is in fact the mainstream academic position. You may look to Conquest, Davies, and Wheatcroft, who are genuinely anticommunist historians, for their analysis (they all say it wasn’t a genocide)
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            > Because the fraction of the current world that reads every day and learns every day is extremely small.\n
            \n
            Socialist countries are famous for literacy and education drives\n
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            > Again, like I said before, how many people around you come back from work and want to read technical books and watch courses instead of chilling, or hanging out with friends? I have two friends who are nut jobs like me and work all the time. EVERYONE else is lazy and just wants to have fun after work, and that’s in my circle. This spans over decades in the different jobs and sectors I worked at, in different countries. Do you have a different experience around you? I have trouble convincing people to read for 30 minutes every day.\n
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            I dont think it is reasonable to assume humans will act the same way in all conditions. I know people who just slack off, and its generally because there is no incentive not to do the bare minimum when you are alienated from your labor
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            Better to have them making the decision than capitalists, who make more money for paying employees less\n
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            Also who says half of them have to be fired? Can’t everyone just work less?
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            Your only question is “what am I missing” and the answer is an economics education.\n
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            But to address your “concerns” you’re operating on the mindset of maximizing profit to compete against other firms maximizing profit, which is only a problem under capitalism (until you reach the monopoly stage)
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            > Late Victorian Age\n
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            It is literally a book about western liberal democracies committing genocide, including through intentionally creating famines.\n
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            > Oh, and you claim the Holodomor didn’t happen? Well, let me guess, Stalin also didn’t got 30 million sowiet people killed?\n
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            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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            I will repeat:\n
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            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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            > Maybe you’ll change your mind one day and understand why the world we live in is the way we live in.\n
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            This from the person who is spouting econ 101 nonsense.
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      Thats it interesting scenario, but why are you assuming that there is a significant segment that won’t want to learn, especially when they’re no longer alienated from their labor? And why are you assuming that the total laborers will increase with new technology, when you can retrain existing workers?\n
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      I dont think your scenario is realistic, it kinda reads as really misanthropic
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            > But to summarize. You basically want to wreck the current system on the basis that everyone will be diligent, reading all the time, just for the “greater good”, more so than their own profit.\n
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            No, that’s a strawman. People won’t all be diligent. But they will be more productive in general when they are not alienated from their labor. This has been proven with a bunch of economic data on socialist countries and data on cooperatives even within a capitalist environment.\n
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            > And btw, about the “bare minimum”. No one has a reason to not do the bare minimum as they don’t get fired (consequences). There will always be the lazy guy who does the bare minimum, and everyone will get lazier because they’ll get jealous with zero consequences.\n
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            You’re just literally describing capitalism and being like, what about this problem under socialism? The consequences are youre not contributing. Do you think everyone is suddenly going to be less motivated when they’re actually able to realize the product of their labor, instead of having a parasite on top taking it?
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            No, overthrowing capitalism and beginning a transition to a more rational economic system increases your life expectancy. You can literally look up graphs.\n
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            [statista.com/…/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041395/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/)
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            See you’re still trapped within the logic of capitalism which maximizes profits and expansion over other concerns.\n
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            > So, assuming we want to keep everyone (including useless people who’d rather have beer instead of reading a book to learn the new stuff), the income of everyone will just go down over time. Eventually, with no one getting fire there won’t be enough money to go around to feed them. What am I missing here?\n
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            Unfortunately in the case of econ 101, you are taught that 2+2=5 most modern econ is neoclassical, which means operating on pre-marx economics and just ignoring marxist critiques of the political economy.\n
            \n
            > and money falls from the sky, and everyone being lazy leads to growth, I’ll ask them to justify.\n
            \n
            Thats a mighty strawman you invented. Workers are going to do the bare minimum to not get fired when it literally doesn’t matter how much they work, their income will be the same. When workers are invested in an organization, they do more work.
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          +body: "THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves."
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            Literally sharing nazi propaganda from Hearst press lol\n
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            Anyway, capitalism is known for never having famines or economic crises, especially not cyclical ones
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            You literally only have one question, the rest of it is opining.\n
            \n
            You’re assuming a wage labor model and that people working twice as efficiently and at half intensity would result in decreased production.\n
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            1. wage labor models aren’t universal\n
            2. there is no reasoning stated for why production would go down\n
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            You’re assuming people would have to be fired to maintain competitive growth. This is based on the logic of firms competing to capture market share. There isn’t really a rational reason for this to need to happen under systems were the point is to accommodate human need, not to maximize profit.
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          +body: "Do you think the shareholders are active in problem solving? Workers include basically everyone but the shareholders. The tech guys, the executives, the managers."
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          +body: "Read the economy and class structure of german fascism if you want a detailed explanation for “scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds”"
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            > And yes, the only pro-Western nation ever falling into a serious Food-Crisis was… Haiti.\n
            \n
            Read Late Victorian Holocausts if you want to be less wrong.\n
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            > Well, actually I am sharing “Wikipedia Propaganda” but if you want to call Wikipedia Nazi-Propaganda…\n
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            The holodomor was originally fabricated by a hearst press associate at a time when Mr Hearst and the third Reich were openly collaborating on spreading nazi propaganda in the US. The famine was bad but the myth that it was a genocide needs to die as it is literally nazi propaganda and was used as a justification for collaborating with the holocaust in Eastern Europe\n
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            This is in fact the mainstream academic position. You may look to Conquest, Davies, and Wheatcroft, who are genuinely anticommunist historians, for their analysis (they all say it wasn’t a genocide)
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            > Because the fraction of the current world that reads every day and learns every day is extremely small.\n
            \n
            Socialist countries are famous for literacy and education drives\n
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            > Again, like I said before, how many people around you come back from work and want to read technical books and watch courses instead of chilling, or hanging out with friends? I have two friends who are nut jobs like me and work all the time. EVERYONE else is lazy and just wants to have fun after work, and that’s in my circle. This spans over decades in the different jobs and sectors I worked at, in different countries. Do you have a different experience around you? I have trouble convincing people to read for 30 minutes every day.\n
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            I dont think it is reasonable to assume humans will act the same way in all conditions. I know people who just slack off, and its generally because there is no incentive not to do the bare minimum when you are alienated from your labor
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            Better to have them making the decision than capitalists, who make more money for paying employees less\n
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            Also who says half of them have to be fired? Can’t everyone just work less?
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            Your only question is “what am I missing” and the answer is an economics education.\n
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            But to address your “concerns” you’re operating on the mindset of maximizing profit to compete against other firms maximizing profit, which is only a problem under capitalism (until you reach the monopoly stage)
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            > Late Victorian Age\n
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            It is literally a book about western liberal democracies committing genocide, including through intentionally creating famines.\n
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            > Oh, and you claim the Holodomor didn’t happen? Well, let me guess, Stalin also didn’t got 30 million sowiet people killed?\n
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            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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          +body: "Read “riding the wave” fo learn about how Scandinavian countries are beneficiaries of the imperialist system"
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            I will repeat:\n
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            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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            > Maybe you’ll change your mind one day and understand why the world we live in is the way we live in.\n
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            This from the person who is spouting econ 101 nonsense.
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      Thats it interesting scenario, but why are you assuming that there is a significant segment that won’t want to learn, especially when they’re no longer alienated from their labor? And why are you assuming that the total laborers will increase with new technology, when you can retrain existing workers?\n
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            > But to summarize. You basically want to wreck the current system on the basis that everyone will be diligent, reading all the time, just for the “greater good”, more so than their own profit.\n
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            No, that’s a strawman. People won’t all be diligent. But they will be more productive in general when they are not alienated from their labor. This has been proven with a bunch of economic data on socialist countries and data on cooperatives even within a capitalist environment.\n
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            > And btw, about the “bare minimum”. No one has a reason to not do the bare minimum as they don’t get fired (consequences). There will always be the lazy guy who does the bare minimum, and everyone will get lazier because they’ll get jealous with zero consequences.\n
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            You’re just literally describing capitalism and being like, what about this problem under socialism? The consequences are youre not contributing. Do you think everyone is suddenly going to be less motivated when they’re actually able to realize the product of their labor, instead of having a parasite on top taking it?
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            No, overthrowing capitalism and beginning a transition to a more rational economic system increases your life expectancy. You can literally look up graphs.\n
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            [statista.com/…/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041395/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/)
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          +body: "Yes. All of those countries had more civil rights and longer life expectancy after the revolution"
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            See you’re still trapped within the logic of capitalism which maximizes profits and expansion over other concerns.\n
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            > So, assuming we want to keep everyone (including useless people who’d rather have beer instead of reading a book to learn the new stuff), the income of everyone will just go down over time. Eventually, with no one getting fire there won’t be enough money to go around to feed them. What am I missing here?\n
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            These are all massive assumptions
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            Unfortunately in the case of econ 101, you are taught that 2+2=5 most modern econ is neoclassical, which means operating on pre-marx economics and just ignoring marxist critiques of the political economy.\n
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            > and money falls from the sky, and everyone being lazy leads to growth, I’ll ask them to justify.\n
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            Thats a mighty strawman you invented. Workers are going to do the bare minimum to not get fired when it literally doesn’t matter how much they work, their income will be the same. When workers are invested in an organization, they do more work.
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            Literally sharing nazi propaganda from Hearst press lol\n
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            Anyway, capitalism is known for never having famines or economic crises, especially not cyclical ones
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            You literally only have one question, the rest of it is opining.\n
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            You’re assuming a wage labor model and that people working twice as efficiently and at half intensity would result in decreased production.\n
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            1. wage labor models aren’t universal\n
            2. there is no reasoning stated for why production would go down\n
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            You’re assuming people would have to be fired to maintain competitive growth. This is based on the logic of firms competing to capture market share. There isn’t really a rational reason for this to need to happen under systems were the point is to accommodate human need, not to maximize profit.
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          +body: "Do you think the shareholders are active in problem solving? Workers include basically everyone but the shareholders. The tech guys, the executives, the managers."
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          +body: "Read the economy and class structure of german fascism if you want a detailed explanation for “scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds”"
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            > And yes, the only pro-Western nation ever falling into a serious Food-Crisis was… Haiti.\n
            \n
            Read Late Victorian Holocausts if you want to be less wrong.\n
            \n
            > Well, actually I am sharing “Wikipedia Propaganda” but if you want to call Wikipedia Nazi-Propaganda…\n
            \n
            The holodomor was originally fabricated by a hearst press associate at a time when Mr Hearst and the third Reich were openly collaborating on spreading nazi propaganda in the US. The famine was bad but the myth that it was a genocide needs to die as it is literally nazi propaganda and was used as a justification for collaborating with the holocaust in Eastern Europe\n
            \n
            This is in fact the mainstream academic position. You may look to Conquest, Davies, and Wheatcroft, who are genuinely anticommunist historians, for their analysis (they all say it wasn’t a genocide)
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            > Because the fraction of the current world that reads every day and learns every day is extremely small.\n
            \n
            Socialist countries are famous for literacy and education drives\n
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            > Again, like I said before, how many people around you come back from work and want to read technical books and watch courses instead of chilling, or hanging out with friends? I have two friends who are nut jobs like me and work all the time. EVERYONE else is lazy and just wants to have fun after work, and that’s in my circle. This spans over decades in the different jobs and sectors I worked at, in different countries. Do you have a different experience around you? I have trouble convincing people to read for 30 minutes every day.\n
            \n
            I dont think it is reasonable to assume humans will act the same way in all conditions. I know people who just slack off, and its generally because there is no incentive not to do the bare minimum when you are alienated from your labor
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            Better to have them making the decision than capitalists, who make more money for paying employees less\n
            \n
            Also who says half of them have to be fired? Can’t everyone just work less?
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            Your only question is “what am I missing” and the answer is an economics education.\n
            \n
            But to address your “concerns” you’re operating on the mindset of maximizing profit to compete against other firms maximizing profit, which is only a problem under capitalism (until you reach the monopoly stage)
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            > Late Victorian Age\n
            \n
            It is literally a book about western liberal democracies committing genocide, including through intentionally creating famines.\n
            \n
            > Oh, and you claim the Holodomor didn’t happen? Well, let me guess, Stalin also didn’t got 30 million sowiet people killed?\n
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            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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          +body: "Read “riding the wave” fo learn about how Scandinavian countries are beneficiaries of the imperialist system"
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            I will repeat:\n
            \n
            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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            This from the person who is spouting econ 101 nonsense.
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            Thats it interesting scenario, but why are you assuming that there is a significant segment that won’t want to learn, especially when they’re no longer alienated from their labor? And why are you assuming that the total laborers will increase with new technology, when you can retrain existing workers?\n
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          +body: "Yes. All of those countries had more civil rights and longer life expectancy after the revolution"
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            See you’re still trapped within the logic of capitalism which maximizes profits and expansion over other concerns.\n
            \n
            > So, assuming we want to keep everyone (including useless people who’d rather have beer instead of reading a book to learn the new stuff), the income of everyone will just go down over time. Eventually, with no one getting fire there won’t be enough money to go around to feed them. What am I missing here?\n
            \n
            These are all massive assumptions
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            Unfortunately in the case of econ 101, you are taught that 2+2=5 most modern econ is neoclassical, which means operating on pre-marx economics and just ignoring marxist critiques of the political economy.\n
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            > and money falls from the sky, and everyone being lazy leads to growth, I’ll ask them to justify.\n
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            Thats a mighty strawman you invented. Workers are going to do the bare minimum to not get fired when it literally doesn’t matter how much they work, their income will be the same. When workers are invested in an organization, they do more work.
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          +body: "THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves."
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            Literally sharing nazi propaganda from Hearst press lol\n
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            Anyway, capitalism is known for never having famines or economic crises, especially not cyclical ones
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            You literally only have one question, the rest of it is opining.\n
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            You’re assuming a wage labor model and that people working twice as efficiently and at half intensity would result in decreased production.\n
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            1. wage labor models aren’t universal\n
            2. there is no reasoning stated for why production would go down\n
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            You’re assuming people would have to be fired to maintain competitive growth. This is based on the logic of firms competing to capture market share. There isn’t really a rational reason for this to need to happen under systems were the point is to accommodate human need, not to maximize profit.
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          +body: "Do you think the shareholders are active in problem solving? Workers include basically everyone but the shareholders. The tech guys, the executives, the managers."
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          +body: "Read the economy and class structure of german fascism if you want a detailed explanation for “scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds”"
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          +body: """
            > And yes, the only pro-Western nation ever falling into a serious Food-Crisis was… Haiti.\n
            \n
            Read Late Victorian Holocausts if you want to be less wrong.\n
            \n
            > Well, actually I am sharing “Wikipedia Propaganda” but if you want to call Wikipedia Nazi-Propaganda…\n
            \n
            The holodomor was originally fabricated by a hearst press associate at a time when Mr Hearst and the third Reich were openly collaborating on spreading nazi propaganda in the US. The famine was bad but the myth that it was a genocide needs to die as it is literally nazi propaganda and was used as a justification for collaborating with the holocaust in Eastern Europe\n
            \n
            This is in fact the mainstream academic position. You may look to Conquest, Davies, and Wheatcroft, who are genuinely anticommunist historians, for their analysis (they all say it wasn’t a genocide)
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            > Because the fraction of the current world that reads every day and learns every day is extremely small.\n
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            Socialist countries are famous for literacy and education drives\n
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            > Again, like I said before, how many people around you come back from work and want to read technical books and watch courses instead of chilling, or hanging out with friends? I have two friends who are nut jobs like me and work all the time. EVERYONE else is lazy and just wants to have fun after work, and that’s in my circle. This spans over decades in the different jobs and sectors I worked at, in different countries. Do you have a different experience around you? I have trouble convincing people to read for 30 minutes every day.\n
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            Better to have them making the decision than capitalists, who make more money for paying employees less\n
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            Also who says half of them have to be fired? Can’t everyone just work less?
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            Your only question is “what am I missing” and the answer is an economics education.\n
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            But to address your “concerns” you’re operating on the mindset of maximizing profit to compete against other firms maximizing profit, which is only a problem under capitalism (until you reach the monopoly stage)
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            > Late Victorian Age\n
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            It is literally a book about western liberal democracies committing genocide, including through intentionally creating famines.\n
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            > Oh, and you claim the Holodomor didn’t happen? Well, let me guess, Stalin also didn’t got 30 million sowiet people killed?\n
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            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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          +body: "Read “riding the wave” fo learn about how Scandinavian countries are beneficiaries of the imperialist system"
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            I will repeat:\n
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            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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            > Maybe you’ll change your mind one day and understand why the world we live in is the way we live in.\n
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            This from the person who is spouting econ 101 nonsense.
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      No, overthrowing capitalism and beginning a transition to a more rational economic system increases your life expectancy. You can literally look up graphs.\n
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      [statista.com/…/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041395/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/)
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            > But to summarize. You basically want to wreck the current system on the basis that everyone will be diligent, reading all the time, just for the “greater good”, more so than their own profit.\n
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            No, that’s a strawman. People won’t all be diligent. But they will be more productive in general when they are not alienated from their labor. This has been proven with a bunch of economic data on socialist countries and data on cooperatives even within a capitalist environment.\n
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            You’re just literally describing capitalism and being like, what about this problem under socialism? The consequences are youre not contributing. Do you think everyone is suddenly going to be less motivated when they’re actually able to realize the product of their labor, instead of having a parasite on top taking it?
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            Thats it interesting scenario, but why are you assuming that there is a significant segment that won’t want to learn, especially when they’re no longer alienated from their labor? And why are you assuming that the total laborers will increase with new technology, when you can retrain existing workers?\n
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            I dont think your scenario is realistic, it kinda reads as really misanthropic
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          +body: "Yes. All of those countries had more civil rights and longer life expectancy after the revolution"
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            See you’re still trapped within the logic of capitalism which maximizes profits and expansion over other concerns.\n
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            > So, assuming we want to keep everyone (including useless people who’d rather have beer instead of reading a book to learn the new stuff), the income of everyone will just go down over time. Eventually, with no one getting fire there won’t be enough money to go around to feed them. What am I missing here?\n
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            These are all massive assumptions
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            Unfortunately in the case of econ 101, you are taught that 2+2=5 most modern econ is neoclassical, which means operating on pre-marx economics and just ignoring marxist critiques of the political economy.\n
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            > and money falls from the sky, and everyone being lazy leads to growth, I’ll ask them to justify.\n
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            Thats a mighty strawman you invented. Workers are going to do the bare minimum to not get fired when it literally doesn’t matter how much they work, their income will be the same. When workers are invested in an organization, they do more work.
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          +body: "THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves."
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            Literally sharing nazi propaganda from Hearst press lol\n
            \n
            Anyway, capitalism is known for never having famines or economic crises, especially not cyclical ones
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            You literally only have one question, the rest of it is opining.\n
            \n
            You’re assuming a wage labor model and that people working twice as efficiently and at half intensity would result in decreased production.\n
            \n
            1. wage labor models aren’t universal\n
            2. there is no reasoning stated for why production would go down\n
            \n
            You’re assuming people would have to be fired to maintain competitive growth. This is based on the logic of firms competing to capture market share. There isn’t really a rational reason for this to need to happen under systems were the point is to accommodate human need, not to maximize profit.
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          +body: "Do you think the shareholders are active in problem solving? Workers include basically everyone but the shareholders. The tech guys, the executives, the managers."
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          +body: "Read the economy and class structure of german fascism if you want a detailed explanation for “scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds”"
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          +body: """
            > And yes, the only pro-Western nation ever falling into a serious Food-Crisis was… Haiti.\n
            \n
            Read Late Victorian Holocausts if you want to be less wrong.\n
            \n
            > Well, actually I am sharing “Wikipedia Propaganda” but if you want to call Wikipedia Nazi-Propaganda…\n
            \n
            The holodomor was originally fabricated by a hearst press associate at a time when Mr Hearst and the third Reich were openly collaborating on spreading nazi propaganda in the US. The famine was bad but the myth that it was a genocide needs to die as it is literally nazi propaganda and was used as a justification for collaborating with the holocaust in Eastern Europe\n
            \n
            This is in fact the mainstream academic position. You may look to Conquest, Davies, and Wheatcroft, who are genuinely anticommunist historians, for their analysis (they all say it wasn’t a genocide)
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            > Because the fraction of the current world that reads every day and learns every day is extremely small.\n
            \n
            Socialist countries are famous for literacy and education drives\n
            \n
            > Again, like I said before, how many people around you come back from work and want to read technical books and watch courses instead of chilling, or hanging out with friends? I have two friends who are nut jobs like me and work all the time. EVERYONE else is lazy and just wants to have fun after work, and that’s in my circle. This spans over decades in the different jobs and sectors I worked at, in different countries. Do you have a different experience around you? I have trouble convincing people to read for 30 minutes every day.\n
            \n
            I dont think it is reasonable to assume humans will act the same way in all conditions. I know people who just slack off, and its generally because there is no incentive not to do the bare minimum when you are alienated from your labor
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            Better to have them making the decision than capitalists, who make more money for paying employees less\n
            \n
            Also who says half of them have to be fired? Can’t everyone just work less?
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            Your only question is “what am I missing” and the answer is an economics education.\n
            \n
            But to address your “concerns” you’re operating on the mindset of maximizing profit to compete against other firms maximizing profit, which is only a problem under capitalism (until you reach the monopoly stage)
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            > Late Victorian Age\n
            \n
            It is literally a book about western liberal democracies committing genocide, including through intentionally creating famines.\n
            \n
            > Oh, and you claim the Holodomor didn’t happen? Well, let me guess, Stalin also didn’t got 30 million sowiet people killed?\n
            \n
            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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            > Maybe you’ll change your mind one day and understand why the world we live in is the way we live in.\n
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      No, overthrowing capitalism and beginning a transition to a more rational economic system increases your life expectancy. You can literally look up graphs.\n
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      [statista.com/…/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041395/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/)
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            > But to summarize. You basically want to wreck the current system on the basis that everyone will be diligent, reading all the time, just for the “greater good”, more so than their own profit.\n
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            No, that’s a strawman. People won’t all be diligent. But they will be more productive in general when they are not alienated from their labor. This has been proven with a bunch of economic data on socialist countries and data on cooperatives even within a capitalist environment.\n
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            > And btw, about the “bare minimum”. No one has a reason to not do the bare minimum as they don’t get fired (consequences). There will always be the lazy guy who does the bare minimum, and everyone will get lazier because they’ll get jealous with zero consequences.\n
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            You’re just literally describing capitalism and being like, what about this problem under socialism? The consequences are youre not contributing. Do you think everyone is suddenly going to be less motivated when they’re actually able to realize the product of their labor, instead of having a parasite on top taking it?
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            Thats it interesting scenario, but why are you assuming that there is a significant segment that won’t want to learn, especially when they’re no longer alienated from their labor? And why are you assuming that the total laborers will increase with new technology, when you can retrain existing workers?\n
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            I dont think your scenario is realistic, it kinda reads as really misanthropic
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          +body: "Yes. All of those countries had more civil rights and longer life expectancy after the revolution"
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            See you’re still trapped within the logic of capitalism which maximizes profits and expansion over other concerns.\n
            \n
            > So, assuming we want to keep everyone (including useless people who’d rather have beer instead of reading a book to learn the new stuff), the income of everyone will just go down over time. Eventually, with no one getting fire there won’t be enough money to go around to feed them. What am I missing here?\n
            \n
            These are all massive assumptions
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            Unfortunately in the case of econ 101, you are taught that 2+2=5 most modern econ is neoclassical, which means operating on pre-marx economics and just ignoring marxist critiques of the political economy.\n
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            > and money falls from the sky, and everyone being lazy leads to growth, I’ll ask them to justify.\n
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            Thats a mighty strawman you invented. Workers are going to do the bare minimum to not get fired when it literally doesn’t matter how much they work, their income will be the same. When workers are invested in an organization, they do more work.
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          +body: "THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves."
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            Literally sharing nazi propaganda from Hearst press lol\n
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            Anyway, capitalism is known for never having famines or economic crises, especially not cyclical ones
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            You literally only have one question, the rest of it is opining.\n
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            You’re assuming a wage labor model and that people working twice as efficiently and at half intensity would result in decreased production.\n
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            1. wage labor models aren’t universal\n
            2. there is no reasoning stated for why production would go down\n
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            You’re assuming people would have to be fired to maintain competitive growth. This is based on the logic of firms competing to capture market share. There isn’t really a rational reason for this to need to happen under systems were the point is to accommodate human need, not to maximize profit.
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          +body: "Do you think the shareholders are active in problem solving? Workers include basically everyone but the shareholders. The tech guys, the executives, the managers."
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          +body: "Read the economy and class structure of german fascism if you want a detailed explanation for “scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds”"
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          +body: """
            > And yes, the only pro-Western nation ever falling into a serious Food-Crisis was… Haiti.\n
            \n
            Read Late Victorian Holocausts if you want to be less wrong.\n
            \n
            > Well, actually I am sharing “Wikipedia Propaganda” but if you want to call Wikipedia Nazi-Propaganda…\n
            \n
            The holodomor was originally fabricated by a hearst press associate at a time when Mr Hearst and the third Reich were openly collaborating on spreading nazi propaganda in the US. The famine was bad but the myth that it was a genocide needs to die as it is literally nazi propaganda and was used as a justification for collaborating with the holocaust in Eastern Europe\n
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            This is in fact the mainstream academic position. You may look to Conquest, Davies, and Wheatcroft, who are genuinely anticommunist historians, for their analysis (they all say it wasn’t a genocide)
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            > Because the fraction of the current world that reads every day and learns every day is extremely small.\n
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            Socialist countries are famous for literacy and education drives\n
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            > Again, like I said before, how many people around you come back from work and want to read technical books and watch courses instead of chilling, or hanging out with friends? I have two friends who are nut jobs like me and work all the time. EVERYONE else is lazy and just wants to have fun after work, and that’s in my circle. This spans over decades in the different jobs and sectors I worked at, in different countries. Do you have a different experience around you? I have trouble convincing people to read for 30 minutes every day.\n
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            Better to have them making the decision than capitalists, who make more money for paying employees less\n
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            Also who says half of them have to be fired? Can’t everyone just work less?
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            Your only question is “what am I missing” and the answer is an economics education.\n
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            But to address your “concerns” you’re operating on the mindset of maximizing profit to compete against other firms maximizing profit, which is only a problem under capitalism (until you reach the monopoly stage)
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            > Late Victorian Age\n
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            It is literally a book about western liberal democracies committing genocide, including through intentionally creating famines.\n
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            > Oh, and you claim the Holodomor didn’t happen? Well, let me guess, Stalin also didn’t got 30 million sowiet people killed?\n
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            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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          +body: "Read “riding the wave” fo learn about how Scandinavian countries are beneficiaries of the imperialist system"
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            I will repeat:\n
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            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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            > Maybe you’ll change your mind one day and understand why the world we live in is the way we live in.\n
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            This from the person who is spouting econ 101 nonsense.
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      No, overthrowing capitalism and beginning a transition to a more rational economic system increases your life expectancy. You can literally look up graphs.\n
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      [statista.com/…/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041395/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/)
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            > But to summarize. You basically want to wreck the current system on the basis that everyone will be diligent, reading all the time, just for the “greater good”, more so than their own profit.\n
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            No, that’s a strawman. People won’t all be diligent. But they will be more productive in general when they are not alienated from their labor. This has been proven with a bunch of economic data on socialist countries and data on cooperatives even within a capitalist environment.\n
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            > And btw, about the “bare minimum”. No one has a reason to not do the bare minimum as they don’t get fired (consequences). There will always be the lazy guy who does the bare minimum, and everyone will get lazier because they’ll get jealous with zero consequences.\n
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            You’re just literally describing capitalism and being like, what about this problem under socialism? The consequences are youre not contributing. Do you think everyone is suddenly going to be less motivated when they’re actually able to realize the product of their labor, instead of having a parasite on top taking it?
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            Thats it interesting scenario, but why are you assuming that there is a significant segment that won’t want to learn, especially when they’re no longer alienated from their labor? And why are you assuming that the total laborers will increase with new technology, when you can retrain existing workers?\n
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            I dont think your scenario is realistic, it kinda reads as really misanthropic
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          +body: "Yes. All of those countries had more civil rights and longer life expectancy after the revolution"
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            See you’re still trapped within the logic of capitalism which maximizes profits and expansion over other concerns.\n
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            > So, assuming we want to keep everyone (including useless people who’d rather have beer instead of reading a book to learn the new stuff), the income of everyone will just go down over time. Eventually, with no one getting fire there won’t be enough money to go around to feed them. What am I missing here?\n
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            These are all massive assumptions
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            Unfortunately in the case of econ 101, you are taught that 2+2=5 most modern econ is neoclassical, which means operating on pre-marx economics and just ignoring marxist critiques of the political economy.\n
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            > and money falls from the sky, and everyone being lazy leads to growth, I’ll ask them to justify.\n
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            Thats a mighty strawman you invented. Workers are going to do the bare minimum to not get fired when it literally doesn’t matter how much they work, their income will be the same. When workers are invested in an organization, they do more work.
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          +body: "THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves."
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            Literally sharing nazi propaganda from Hearst press lol\n
            \n
            Anyway, capitalism is known for never having famines or economic crises, especially not cyclical ones
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            You literally only have one question, the rest of it is opining.\n
            \n
            You’re assuming a wage labor model and that people working twice as efficiently and at half intensity would result in decreased production.\n
            \n
            1. wage labor models aren’t universal\n
            2. there is no reasoning stated for why production would go down\n
            \n
            You’re assuming people would have to be fired to maintain competitive growth. This is based on the logic of firms competing to capture market share. There isn’t really a rational reason for this to need to happen under systems were the point is to accommodate human need, not to maximize profit.
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          +body: "Do you think the shareholders are active in problem solving? Workers include basically everyone but the shareholders. The tech guys, the executives, the managers."
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          +body: "Read the economy and class structure of german fascism if you want a detailed explanation for “scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds”"
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          +body: """
            > And yes, the only pro-Western nation ever falling into a serious Food-Crisis was… Haiti.\n
            \n
            Read Late Victorian Holocausts if you want to be less wrong.\n
            \n
            > Well, actually I am sharing “Wikipedia Propaganda” but if you want to call Wikipedia Nazi-Propaganda…\n
            \n
            The holodomor was originally fabricated by a hearst press associate at a time when Mr Hearst and the third Reich were openly collaborating on spreading nazi propaganda in the US. The famine was bad but the myth that it was a genocide needs to die as it is literally nazi propaganda and was used as a justification for collaborating with the holocaust in Eastern Europe\n
            \n
            This is in fact the mainstream academic position. You may look to Conquest, Davies, and Wheatcroft, who are genuinely anticommunist historians, for their analysis (they all say it wasn’t a genocide)
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            > Because the fraction of the current world that reads every day and learns every day is extremely small.\n
            \n
            Socialist countries are famous for literacy and education drives\n
            \n
            > Again, like I said before, how many people around you come back from work and want to read technical books and watch courses instead of chilling, or hanging out with friends? I have two friends who are nut jobs like me and work all the time. EVERYONE else is lazy and just wants to have fun after work, and that’s in my circle. This spans over decades in the different jobs and sectors I worked at, in different countries. Do you have a different experience around you? I have trouble convincing people to read for 30 minutes every day.\n
            \n
            I dont think it is reasonable to assume humans will act the same way in all conditions. I know people who just slack off, and its generally because there is no incentive not to do the bare minimum when you are alienated from your labor
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            Better to have them making the decision than capitalists, who make more money for paying employees less\n
            \n
            Also who says half of them have to be fired? Can’t everyone just work less?
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            Your only question is “what am I missing” and the answer is an economics education.\n
            \n
            But to address your “concerns” you’re operating on the mindset of maximizing profit to compete against other firms maximizing profit, which is only a problem under capitalism (until you reach the monopoly stage)
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            > Late Victorian Age\n
            \n
            It is literally a book about western liberal democracies committing genocide, including through intentionally creating famines.\n
            \n
            > Oh, and you claim the Holodomor didn’t happen? Well, let me guess, Stalin also didn’t got 30 million sowiet people killed?\n
            \n
            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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            I will repeat:\n
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            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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            > Maybe you’ll change your mind one day and understand why the world we live in is the way we live in.\n
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            This from the person who is spouting econ 101 nonsense.
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      No, overthrowing capitalism and beginning a transition to a more rational economic system increases your life expectancy. You can literally look up graphs.\n
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            No, that’s a strawman. People won’t all be diligent. But they will be more productive in general when they are not alienated from their labor. This has been proven with a bunch of economic data on socialist countries and data on cooperatives even within a capitalist environment.\n
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            > And btw, about the “bare minimum”. No one has a reason to not do the bare minimum as they don’t get fired (consequences). There will always be the lazy guy who does the bare minimum, and everyone will get lazier because they’ll get jealous with zero consequences.\n
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            You’re just literally describing capitalism and being like, what about this problem under socialism? The consequences are youre not contributing. Do you think everyone is suddenly going to be less motivated when they’re actually able to realize the product of their labor, instead of having a parasite on top taking it?
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            Thats it interesting scenario, but why are you assuming that there is a significant segment that won’t want to learn, especially when they’re no longer alienated from their labor? And why are you assuming that the total laborers will increase with new technology, when you can retrain existing workers?\n
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            I dont think your scenario is realistic, it kinda reads as really misanthropic
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          +body: "Yes. All of those countries had more civil rights and longer life expectancy after the revolution"
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            See you’re still trapped within the logic of capitalism which maximizes profits and expansion over other concerns.\n
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            > So, assuming we want to keep everyone (including useless people who’d rather have beer instead of reading a book to learn the new stuff), the income of everyone will just go down over time. Eventually, with no one getting fire there won’t be enough money to go around to feed them. What am I missing here?\n
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            These are all massive assumptions
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            Unfortunately in the case of econ 101, you are taught that 2+2=5 most modern econ is neoclassical, which means operating on pre-marx economics and just ignoring marxist critiques of the political economy.\n
            \n
            > and money falls from the sky, and everyone being lazy leads to growth, I’ll ask them to justify.\n
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            Thats a mighty strawman you invented. Workers are going to do the bare minimum to not get fired when it literally doesn’t matter how much they work, their income will be the same. When workers are invested in an organization, they do more work.
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          +body: "THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves."
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            Literally sharing nazi propaganda from Hearst press lol\n
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            Anyway, capitalism is known for never having famines or economic crises, especially not cyclical ones
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            You literally only have one question, the rest of it is opining.\n
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            You’re assuming a wage labor model and that people working twice as efficiently and at half intensity would result in decreased production.\n
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            1. wage labor models aren’t universal\n
            2. there is no reasoning stated for why production would go down\n
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            You’re assuming people would have to be fired to maintain competitive growth. This is based on the logic of firms competing to capture market share. There isn’t really a rational reason for this to need to happen under systems were the point is to accommodate human need, not to maximize profit.
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          +body: "Do you think the shareholders are active in problem solving? Workers include basically everyone but the shareholders. The tech guys, the executives, the managers."
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          +body: "Read the economy and class structure of german fascism if you want a detailed explanation for “scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds”"
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            > And yes, the only pro-Western nation ever falling into a serious Food-Crisis was… Haiti.\n
            \n
            Read Late Victorian Holocausts if you want to be less wrong.\n
            \n
            > Well, actually I am sharing “Wikipedia Propaganda” but if you want to call Wikipedia Nazi-Propaganda…\n
            \n
            The holodomor was originally fabricated by a hearst press associate at a time when Mr Hearst and the third Reich were openly collaborating on spreading nazi propaganda in the US. The famine was bad but the myth that it was a genocide needs to die as it is literally nazi propaganda and was used as a justification for collaborating with the holocaust in Eastern Europe\n
            \n
            This is in fact the mainstream academic position. You may look to Conquest, Davies, and Wheatcroft, who are genuinely anticommunist historians, for their analysis (they all say it wasn’t a genocide)
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            > Because the fraction of the current world that reads every day and learns every day is extremely small.\n
            \n
            Socialist countries are famous for literacy and education drives\n
            \n
            > Again, like I said before, how many people around you come back from work and want to read technical books and watch courses instead of chilling, or hanging out with friends? I have two friends who are nut jobs like me and work all the time. EVERYONE else is lazy and just wants to have fun after work, and that’s in my circle. This spans over decades in the different jobs and sectors I worked at, in different countries. Do you have a different experience around you? I have trouble convincing people to read for 30 minutes every day.\n
            \n
            I dont think it is reasonable to assume humans will act the same way in all conditions. I know people who just slack off, and its generally because there is no incentive not to do the bare minimum when you are alienated from your labor
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            Better to have them making the decision than capitalists, who make more money for paying employees less\n
            \n
            Also who says half of them have to be fired? Can’t everyone just work less?
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            Your only question is “what am I missing” and the answer is an economics education.\n
            \n
            But to address your “concerns” you’re operating on the mindset of maximizing profit to compete against other firms maximizing profit, which is only a problem under capitalism (until you reach the monopoly stage)
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            > Late Victorian Age\n
            \n
            It is literally a book about western liberal democracies committing genocide, including through intentionally creating famines.\n
            \n
            > Oh, and you claim the Holodomor didn’t happen? Well, let me guess, Stalin also didn’t got 30 million sowiet people killed?\n
            \n
            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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          +body: "Read “riding the wave” fo learn about how Scandinavian countries are beneficiaries of the imperialist system"
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            I will repeat:\n
            \n
            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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            > Maybe you’ll change your mind one day and understand why the world we live in is the way we live in.\n
            \n
            This from the person who is spouting econ 101 nonsense.
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            > But to summarize. You basically want to wreck the current system on the basis that everyone will be diligent, reading all the time, just for the “greater good”, more so than their own profit.\n
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            You’re just literally describing capitalism and being like, what about this problem under socialism? The consequences are youre not contributing. Do you think everyone is suddenly going to be less motivated when they’re actually able to realize the product of their labor, instead of having a parasite on top taking it?
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            Thats it interesting scenario, but why are you assuming that there is a significant segment that won’t want to learn, especially when they’re no longer alienated from their labor? And why are you assuming that the total laborers will increase with new technology, when you can retrain existing workers?\n
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            See you’re still trapped within the logic of capitalism which maximizes profits and expansion over other concerns.\n
            \n
            > So, assuming we want to keep everyone (including useless people who’d rather have beer instead of reading a book to learn the new stuff), the income of everyone will just go down over time. Eventually, with no one getting fire there won’t be enough money to go around to feed them. What am I missing here?\n
            \n
            These are all massive assumptions
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            Unfortunately in the case of econ 101, you are taught that 2+2=5 most modern econ is neoclassical, which means operating on pre-marx economics and just ignoring marxist critiques of the political economy.\n
            \n
            > and money falls from the sky, and everyone being lazy leads to growth, I’ll ask them to justify.\n
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            Thats a mighty strawman you invented. Workers are going to do the bare minimum to not get fired when it literally doesn’t matter how much they work, their income will be the same. When workers are invested in an organization, they do more work.
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          +body: "THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves."
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            Literally sharing nazi propaganda from Hearst press lol\n
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            Anyway, capitalism is known for never having famines or economic crises, especially not cyclical ones
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            You literally only have one question, the rest of it is opining.\n
            \n
            You’re assuming a wage labor model and that people working twice as efficiently and at half intensity would result in decreased production.\n
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            1. wage labor models aren’t universal\n
            2. there is no reasoning stated for why production would go down\n
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            You’re assuming people would have to be fired to maintain competitive growth. This is based on the logic of firms competing to capture market share. There isn’t really a rational reason for this to need to happen under systems were the point is to accommodate human need, not to maximize profit.
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          +body: "Do you think the shareholders are active in problem solving? Workers include basically everyone but the shareholders. The tech guys, the executives, the managers."
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          +body: "Read the economy and class structure of german fascism if you want a detailed explanation for “scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds”"
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          +body: """
            > And yes, the only pro-Western nation ever falling into a serious Food-Crisis was… Haiti.\n
            \n
            Read Late Victorian Holocausts if you want to be less wrong.\n
            \n
            > Well, actually I am sharing “Wikipedia Propaganda” but if you want to call Wikipedia Nazi-Propaganda…\n
            \n
            The holodomor was originally fabricated by a hearst press associate at a time when Mr Hearst and the third Reich were openly collaborating on spreading nazi propaganda in the US. The famine was bad but the myth that it was a genocide needs to die as it is literally nazi propaganda and was used as a justification for collaborating with the holocaust in Eastern Europe\n
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            This is in fact the mainstream academic position. You may look to Conquest, Davies, and Wheatcroft, who are genuinely anticommunist historians, for their analysis (they all say it wasn’t a genocide)
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            > Because the fraction of the current world that reads every day and learns every day is extremely small.\n
            \n
            Socialist countries are famous for literacy and education drives\n
            \n
            > Again, like I said before, how many people around you come back from work and want to read technical books and watch courses instead of chilling, or hanging out with friends? I have two friends who are nut jobs like me and work all the time. EVERYONE else is lazy and just wants to have fun after work, and that’s in my circle. This spans over decades in the different jobs and sectors I worked at, in different countries. Do you have a different experience around you? I have trouble convincing people to read for 30 minutes every day.\n
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            I dont think it is reasonable to assume humans will act the same way in all conditions. I know people who just slack off, and its generally because there is no incentive not to do the bare minimum when you are alienated from your labor
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            Better to have them making the decision than capitalists, who make more money for paying employees less\n
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            Also who says half of them have to be fired? Can’t everyone just work less?
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            Your only question is “what am I missing” and the answer is an economics education.\n
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            But to address your “concerns” you’re operating on the mindset of maximizing profit to compete against other firms maximizing profit, which is only a problem under capitalism (until you reach the monopoly stage)
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            > Late Victorian Age\n
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            It is literally a book about western liberal democracies committing genocide, including through intentionally creating famines.\n
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            > Oh, and you claim the Holodomor didn’t happen? Well, let me guess, Stalin also didn’t got 30 million sowiet people killed?\n
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            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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            I will repeat:\n
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            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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            > Maybe you’ll change your mind one day and understand why the world we live in is the way we live in.\n
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            This from the person who is spouting econ 101 nonsense.
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      No, overthrowing capitalism and beginning a transition to a more rational economic system increases your life expectancy. You can literally look up graphs.\n
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      [statista.com/…/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041395/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/)
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            > But to summarize. You basically want to wreck the current system on the basis that everyone will be diligent, reading all the time, just for the “greater good”, more so than their own profit.\n
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            No, that’s a strawman. People won’t all be diligent. But they will be more productive in general when they are not alienated from their labor. This has been proven with a bunch of economic data on socialist countries and data on cooperatives even within a capitalist environment.\n
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            > And btw, about the “bare minimum”. No one has a reason to not do the bare minimum as they don’t get fired (consequences). There will always be the lazy guy who does the bare minimum, and everyone will get lazier because they’ll get jealous with zero consequences.\n
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            You’re just literally describing capitalism and being like, what about this problem under socialism? The consequences are youre not contributing. Do you think everyone is suddenly going to be less motivated when they’re actually able to realize the product of their labor, instead of having a parasite on top taking it?
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            Thats it interesting scenario, but why are you assuming that there is a significant segment that won’t want to learn, especially when they’re no longer alienated from their labor? And why are you assuming that the total laborers will increase with new technology, when you can retrain existing workers?\n
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            I dont think your scenario is realistic, it kinda reads as really misanthropic
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            No, overthrowing capitalism and beginning a transition to a more rational economic system increases your life expectancy. You can literally look up graphs.\n
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            [statista.com/…/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041395/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/)
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          +body: "Yes. All of those countries had more civil rights and longer life expectancy after the revolution"
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            See you’re still trapped within the logic of capitalism which maximizes profits and expansion over other concerns.\n
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            > So, assuming we want to keep everyone (including useless people who’d rather have beer instead of reading a book to learn the new stuff), the income of everyone will just go down over time. Eventually, with no one getting fire there won’t be enough money to go around to feed them. What am I missing here?\n
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            These are all massive assumptions
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            Unfortunately in the case of econ 101, you are taught that 2+2=5 most modern econ is neoclassical, which means operating on pre-marx economics and just ignoring marxist critiques of the political economy.\n
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            > and money falls from the sky, and everyone being lazy leads to growth, I’ll ask them to justify.\n
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            Thats a mighty strawman you invented. Workers are going to do the bare minimum to not get fired when it literally doesn’t matter how much they work, their income will be the same. When workers are invested in an organization, they do more work.
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          +body: "THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves."
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            Literally sharing nazi propaganda from Hearst press lol\n
            \n
            Anyway, capitalism is known for never having famines or economic crises, especially not cyclical ones
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            You literally only have one question, the rest of it is opining.\n
            \n
            You’re assuming a wage labor model and that people working twice as efficiently and at half intensity would result in decreased production.\n
            \n
            1. wage labor models aren’t universal\n
            2. there is no reasoning stated for why production would go down\n
            \n
            You’re assuming people would have to be fired to maintain competitive growth. This is based on the logic of firms competing to capture market share. There isn’t really a rational reason for this to need to happen under systems were the point is to accommodate human need, not to maximize profit.
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          +body: "Do you think the shareholders are active in problem solving? Workers include basically everyone but the shareholders. The tech guys, the executives, the managers."
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          +body: "Read the economy and class structure of german fascism if you want a detailed explanation for “scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds”"
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            > And yes, the only pro-Western nation ever falling into a serious Food-Crisis was… Haiti.\n
            \n
            Read Late Victorian Holocausts if you want to be less wrong.\n
            \n
            > Well, actually I am sharing “Wikipedia Propaganda” but if you want to call Wikipedia Nazi-Propaganda…\n
            \n
            The holodomor was originally fabricated by a hearst press associate at a time when Mr Hearst and the third Reich were openly collaborating on spreading nazi propaganda in the US. The famine was bad but the myth that it was a genocide needs to die as it is literally nazi propaganda and was used as a justification for collaborating with the holocaust in Eastern Europe\n
            \n
            This is in fact the mainstream academic position. You may look to Conquest, Davies, and Wheatcroft, who are genuinely anticommunist historians, for their analysis (they all say it wasn’t a genocide)
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            > Because the fraction of the current world that reads every day and learns every day is extremely small.\n
            \n
            Socialist countries are famous for literacy and education drives\n
            \n
            > Again, like I said before, how many people around you come back from work and want to read technical books and watch courses instead of chilling, or hanging out with friends? I have two friends who are nut jobs like me and work all the time. EVERYONE else is lazy and just wants to have fun after work, and that’s in my circle. This spans over decades in the different jobs and sectors I worked at, in different countries. Do you have a different experience around you? I have trouble convincing people to read for 30 minutes every day.\n
            \n
            I dont think it is reasonable to assume humans will act the same way in all conditions. I know people who just slack off, and its generally because there is no incentive not to do the bare minimum when you are alienated from your labor
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            Better to have them making the decision than capitalists, who make more money for paying employees less\n
            \n
            Also who says half of them have to be fired? Can’t everyone just work less?
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            Your only question is “what am I missing” and the answer is an economics education.\n
            \n
            But to address your “concerns” you’re operating on the mindset of maximizing profit to compete against other firms maximizing profit, which is only a problem under capitalism (until you reach the monopoly stage)
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            > Late Victorian Age\n
            \n
            It is literally a book about western liberal democracies committing genocide, including through intentionally creating famines.\n
            \n
            > Oh, and you claim the Holodomor didn’t happen? Well, let me guess, Stalin also didn’t got 30 million sowiet people killed?\n
            \n
            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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            > But to summarize. You basically want to wreck the current system on the basis that everyone will be diligent, reading all the time, just for the “greater good”, more so than their own profit.\n
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            Thats it interesting scenario, but why are you assuming that there is a significant segment that won’t want to learn, especially when they’re no longer alienated from their labor? And why are you assuming that the total laborers will increase with new technology, when you can retrain existing workers?\n
            \n
            I dont think your scenario is realistic, it kinda reads as really misanthropic
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            No, overthrowing capitalism and beginning a transition to a more rational economic system increases your life expectancy. You can literally look up graphs.\n
            \n
            [statista.com/…/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041395/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/)
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          +body: "Yes. All of those countries had more civil rights and longer life expectancy after the revolution"
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            See you’re still trapped within the logic of capitalism which maximizes profits and expansion over other concerns.\n
            \n
            > So, assuming we want to keep everyone (including useless people who’d rather have beer instead of reading a book to learn the new stuff), the income of everyone will just go down over time. Eventually, with no one getting fire there won’t be enough money to go around to feed them. What am I missing here?\n
            \n
            These are all massive assumptions
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            Unfortunately in the case of econ 101, you are taught that 2+2=5 most modern econ is neoclassical, which means operating on pre-marx economics and just ignoring marxist critiques of the political economy.\n
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            > and money falls from the sky, and everyone being lazy leads to growth, I’ll ask them to justify.\n
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            Thats a mighty strawman you invented. Workers are going to do the bare minimum to not get fired when it literally doesn’t matter how much they work, their income will be the same. When workers are invested in an organization, they do more work.
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          +body: "THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves."
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            Literally sharing nazi propaganda from Hearst press lol\n
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            Anyway, capitalism is known for never having famines or economic crises, especially not cyclical ones
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            You literally only have one question, the rest of it is opining.\n
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            You’re assuming a wage labor model and that people working twice as efficiently and at half intensity would result in decreased production.\n
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            1. wage labor models aren’t universal\n
            2. there is no reasoning stated for why production would go down\n
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            You’re assuming people would have to be fired to maintain competitive growth. This is based on the logic of firms competing to capture market share. There isn’t really a rational reason for this to need to happen under systems were the point is to accommodate human need, not to maximize profit.
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          +body: "Do you think the shareholders are active in problem solving? Workers include basically everyone but the shareholders. The tech guys, the executives, the managers."
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            > And yes, the only pro-Western nation ever falling into a serious Food-Crisis was… Haiti.\n
            \n
            Read Late Victorian Holocausts if you want to be less wrong.\n
            \n
            > Well, actually I am sharing “Wikipedia Propaganda” but if you want to call Wikipedia Nazi-Propaganda…\n
            \n
            The holodomor was originally fabricated by a hearst press associate at a time when Mr Hearst and the third Reich were openly collaborating on spreading nazi propaganda in the US. The famine was bad but the myth that it was a genocide needs to die as it is literally nazi propaganda and was used as a justification for collaborating with the holocaust in Eastern Europe\n
            \n
            This is in fact the mainstream academic position. You may look to Conquest, Davies, and Wheatcroft, who are genuinely anticommunist historians, for their analysis (they all say it wasn’t a genocide)
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            > Because the fraction of the current world that reads every day and learns every day is extremely small.\n
            \n
            Socialist countries are famous for literacy and education drives\n
            \n
            > Again, like I said before, how many people around you come back from work and want to read technical books and watch courses instead of chilling, or hanging out with friends? I have two friends who are nut jobs like me and work all the time. EVERYONE else is lazy and just wants to have fun after work, and that’s in my circle. This spans over decades in the different jobs and sectors I worked at, in different countries. Do you have a different experience around you? I have trouble convincing people to read for 30 minutes every day.\n
            \n
            I dont think it is reasonable to assume humans will act the same way in all conditions. I know people who just slack off, and its generally because there is no incentive not to do the bare minimum when you are alienated from your labor
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            Better to have them making the decision than capitalists, who make more money for paying employees less\n
            \n
            Also who says half of them have to be fired? Can’t everyone just work less?
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            Your only question is “what am I missing” and the answer is an economics education.\n
            \n
            But to address your “concerns” you’re operating on the mindset of maximizing profit to compete against other firms maximizing profit, which is only a problem under capitalism (until you reach the monopoly stage)
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            > Late Victorian Age\n
            \n
            It is literally a book about western liberal democracies committing genocide, including through intentionally creating famines.\n
            \n
            > Oh, and you claim the Holodomor didn’t happen? Well, let me guess, Stalin also didn’t got 30 million sowiet people killed?\n
            \n
            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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          +body: "Read “riding the wave” fo learn about how Scandinavian countries are beneficiaries of the imperialist system"
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            I will repeat:\n
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            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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            > Maybe you’ll change your mind one day and understand why the world we live in is the way we live in.\n
            \n
            This from the person who is spouting econ 101 nonsense.
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            > But to summarize. You basically want to wreck the current system on the basis that everyone will be diligent, reading all the time, just for the “greater good”, more so than their own profit.\n
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            No, that’s a strawman. People won’t all be diligent. But they will be more productive in general when they are not alienated from their labor. This has been proven with a bunch of economic data on socialist countries and data on cooperatives even within a capitalist environment.\n
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            > And btw, about the “bare minimum”. No one has a reason to not do the bare minimum as they don’t get fired (consequences). There will always be the lazy guy who does the bare minimum, and everyone will get lazier because they’ll get jealous with zero consequences.\n
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            You’re just literally describing capitalism and being like, what about this problem under socialism? The consequences are youre not contributing. Do you think everyone is suddenly going to be less motivated when they’re actually able to realize the product of their labor, instead of having a parasite on top taking it?
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            Thats it interesting scenario, but why are you assuming that there is a significant segment that won’t want to learn, especially when they’re no longer alienated from their labor? And why are you assuming that the total laborers will increase with new technology, when you can retrain existing workers?\n
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            I dont think your scenario is realistic, it kinda reads as really misanthropic
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            No, overthrowing capitalism and beginning a transition to a more rational economic system increases your life expectancy. You can literally look up graphs.\n
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            [statista.com/…/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041395/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/)
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          +body: "Yes. All of those countries had more civil rights and longer life expectancy after the revolution"
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            See you’re still trapped within the logic of capitalism which maximizes profits and expansion over other concerns.\n
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            > So, assuming we want to keep everyone (including useless people who’d rather have beer instead of reading a book to learn the new stuff), the income of everyone will just go down over time. Eventually, with no one getting fire there won’t be enough money to go around to feed them. What am I missing here?\n
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            These are all massive assumptions
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            Unfortunately in the case of econ 101, you are taught that 2+2=5 most modern econ is neoclassical, which means operating on pre-marx economics and just ignoring marxist critiques of the political economy.\n
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            > and money falls from the sky, and everyone being lazy leads to growth, I’ll ask them to justify.\n
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            Thats a mighty strawman you invented. Workers are going to do the bare minimum to not get fired when it literally doesn’t matter how much they work, their income will be the same. When workers are invested in an organization, they do more work.
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          +body: "THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves."
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            Literally sharing nazi propaganda from Hearst press lol\n
            \n
            Anyway, capitalism is known for never having famines or economic crises, especially not cyclical ones
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            You literally only have one question, the rest of it is opining.\n
            \n
            You’re assuming a wage labor model and that people working twice as efficiently and at half intensity would result in decreased production.\n
            \n
            1. wage labor models aren’t universal\n
            2. there is no reasoning stated for why production would go down\n
            \n
            You’re assuming people would have to be fired to maintain competitive growth. This is based on the logic of firms competing to capture market share. There isn’t really a rational reason for this to need to happen under systems were the point is to accommodate human need, not to maximize profit.
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          +body: "Do you think the shareholders are active in problem solving? Workers include basically everyone but the shareholders. The tech guys, the executives, the managers."
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          +body: "Read the economy and class structure of german fascism if you want a detailed explanation for “scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds”"
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            > And yes, the only pro-Western nation ever falling into a serious Food-Crisis was… Haiti.\n
            \n
            Read Late Victorian Holocausts if you want to be less wrong.\n
            \n
            > Well, actually I am sharing “Wikipedia Propaganda” but if you want to call Wikipedia Nazi-Propaganda…\n
            \n
            The holodomor was originally fabricated by a hearst press associate at a time when Mr Hearst and the third Reich were openly collaborating on spreading nazi propaganda in the US. The famine was bad but the myth that it was a genocide needs to die as it is literally nazi propaganda and was used as a justification for collaborating with the holocaust in Eastern Europe\n
            \n
            This is in fact the mainstream academic position. You may look to Conquest, Davies, and Wheatcroft, who are genuinely anticommunist historians, for their analysis (they all say it wasn’t a genocide)
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            > Because the fraction of the current world that reads every day and learns every day is extremely small.\n
            \n
            Socialist countries are famous for literacy and education drives\n
            \n
            > Again, like I said before, how many people around you come back from work and want to read technical books and watch courses instead of chilling, or hanging out with friends? I have two friends who are nut jobs like me and work all the time. EVERYONE else is lazy and just wants to have fun after work, and that’s in my circle. This spans over decades in the different jobs and sectors I worked at, in different countries. Do you have a different experience around you? I have trouble convincing people to read for 30 minutes every day.\n
            \n
            I dont think it is reasonable to assume humans will act the same way in all conditions. I know people who just slack off, and its generally because there is no incentive not to do the bare minimum when you are alienated from your labor
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            Better to have them making the decision than capitalists, who make more money for paying employees less\n
            \n
            Also who says half of them have to be fired? Can’t everyone just work less?
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            Your only question is “what am I missing” and the answer is an economics education.\n
            \n
            But to address your “concerns” you’re operating on the mindset of maximizing profit to compete against other firms maximizing profit, which is only a problem under capitalism (until you reach the monopoly stage)
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            > Late Victorian Age\n
            \n
            It is literally a book about western liberal democracies committing genocide, including through intentionally creating famines.\n
            \n
            > Oh, and you claim the Holodomor didn’t happen? Well, let me guess, Stalin also didn’t got 30 million sowiet people killed?\n
            \n
            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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            Thats it interesting scenario, but why are you assuming that there is a significant segment that won’t want to learn, especially when they’re no longer alienated from their labor? And why are you assuming that the total laborers will increase with new technology, when you can retrain existing workers?\n
            \n
            I dont think your scenario is realistic, it kinda reads as really misanthropic
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            No, overthrowing capitalism and beginning a transition to a more rational economic system increases your life expectancy. You can literally look up graphs.\n
            \n
            [statista.com/…/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041395/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/)
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          +body: "Yes. All of those countries had more civil rights and longer life expectancy after the revolution"
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            See you’re still trapped within the logic of capitalism which maximizes profits and expansion over other concerns.\n
            \n
            > So, assuming we want to keep everyone (including useless people who’d rather have beer instead of reading a book to learn the new stuff), the income of everyone will just go down over time. Eventually, with no one getting fire there won’t be enough money to go around to feed them. What am I missing here?\n
            \n
            These are all massive assumptions
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            Unfortunately in the case of econ 101, you are taught that 2+2=5 most modern econ is neoclassical, which means operating on pre-marx economics and just ignoring marxist critiques of the political economy.\n
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            > and money falls from the sky, and everyone being lazy leads to growth, I’ll ask them to justify.\n
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            Thats a mighty strawman you invented. Workers are going to do the bare minimum to not get fired when it literally doesn’t matter how much they work, their income will be the same. When workers are invested in an organization, they do more work.
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          +body: "THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves."
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            Literally sharing nazi propaganda from Hearst press lol\n
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            Anyway, capitalism is known for never having famines or economic crises, especially not cyclical ones
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            You literally only have one question, the rest of it is opining.\n
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            You’re assuming a wage labor model and that people working twice as efficiently and at half intensity would result in decreased production.\n
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            1. wage labor models aren’t universal\n
            2. there is no reasoning stated for why production would go down\n
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            You’re assuming people would have to be fired to maintain competitive growth. This is based on the logic of firms competing to capture market share. There isn’t really a rational reason for this to need to happen under systems were the point is to accommodate human need, not to maximize profit.
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          +body: "Do you think the shareholders are active in problem solving? Workers include basically everyone but the shareholders. The tech guys, the executives, the managers."
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            > And yes, the only pro-Western nation ever falling into a serious Food-Crisis was… Haiti.\n
            \n
            Read Late Victorian Holocausts if you want to be less wrong.\n
            \n
            > Well, actually I am sharing “Wikipedia Propaganda” but if you want to call Wikipedia Nazi-Propaganda…\n
            \n
            The holodomor was originally fabricated by a hearst press associate at a time when Mr Hearst and the third Reich were openly collaborating on spreading nazi propaganda in the US. The famine was bad but the myth that it was a genocide needs to die as it is literally nazi propaganda and was used as a justification for collaborating with the holocaust in Eastern Europe\n
            \n
            This is in fact the mainstream academic position. You may look to Conquest, Davies, and Wheatcroft, who are genuinely anticommunist historians, for their analysis (they all say it wasn’t a genocide)
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            > Because the fraction of the current world that reads every day and learns every day is extremely small.\n
            \n
            Socialist countries are famous for literacy and education drives\n
            \n
            > Again, like I said before, how many people around you come back from work and want to read technical books and watch courses instead of chilling, or hanging out with friends? I have two friends who are nut jobs like me and work all the time. EVERYONE else is lazy and just wants to have fun after work, and that’s in my circle. This spans over decades in the different jobs and sectors I worked at, in different countries. Do you have a different experience around you? I have trouble convincing people to read for 30 minutes every day.\n
            \n
            I dont think it is reasonable to assume humans will act the same way in all conditions. I know people who just slack off, and its generally because there is no incentive not to do the bare minimum when you are alienated from your labor
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            Better to have them making the decision than capitalists, who make more money for paying employees less\n
            \n
            Also who says half of them have to be fired? Can’t everyone just work less?
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            Your only question is “what am I missing” and the answer is an economics education.\n
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            But to address your “concerns” you’re operating on the mindset of maximizing profit to compete against other firms maximizing profit, which is only a problem under capitalism (until you reach the monopoly stage)
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            > Late Victorian Age\n
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            It is literally a book about western liberal democracies committing genocide, including through intentionally creating famines.\n
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            > Oh, and you claim the Holodomor didn’t happen? Well, let me guess, Stalin also didn’t got 30 million sowiet people killed?\n
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            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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          +body: "Read “riding the wave” fo learn about how Scandinavian countries are beneficiaries of the imperialist system"
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            I will repeat:\n
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            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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            > Maybe you’ll change your mind one day and understand why the world we live in is the way we live in.\n
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            This from the person who is spouting econ 101 nonsense.
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            > But to summarize. You basically want to wreck the current system on the basis that everyone will be diligent, reading all the time, just for the “greater good”, more so than their own profit.\n
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            No, that’s a strawman. People won’t all be diligent. But they will be more productive in general when they are not alienated from their labor. This has been proven with a bunch of economic data on socialist countries and data on cooperatives even within a capitalist environment.\n
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            > And btw, about the “bare minimum”. No one has a reason to not do the bare minimum as they don’t get fired (consequences). There will always be the lazy guy who does the bare minimum, and everyone will get lazier because they’ll get jealous with zero consequences.\n
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            You’re just literally describing capitalism and being like, what about this problem under socialism? The consequences are youre not contributing. Do you think everyone is suddenly going to be less motivated when they’re actually able to realize the product of their labor, instead of having a parasite on top taking it?
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            Thats it interesting scenario, but why are you assuming that there is a significant segment that won’t want to learn, especially when they’re no longer alienated from their labor? And why are you assuming that the total laborers will increase with new technology, when you can retrain existing workers?\n
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            I dont think your scenario is realistic, it kinda reads as really misanthropic
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            No, overthrowing capitalism and beginning a transition to a more rational economic system increases your life expectancy. You can literally look up graphs.\n
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            [statista.com/…/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041395/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/)
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          +body: "Yes. All of those countries had more civil rights and longer life expectancy after the revolution"
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            See you’re still trapped within the logic of capitalism which maximizes profits and expansion over other concerns.\n
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            > So, assuming we want to keep everyone (including useless people who’d rather have beer instead of reading a book to learn the new stuff), the income of everyone will just go down over time. Eventually, with no one getting fire there won’t be enough money to go around to feed them. What am I missing here?\n
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            These are all massive assumptions
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            Unfortunately in the case of econ 101, you are taught that 2+2=5 most modern econ is neoclassical, which means operating on pre-marx economics and just ignoring marxist critiques of the political economy.\n
            \n
            > and money falls from the sky, and everyone being lazy leads to growth, I’ll ask them to justify.\n
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            Thats a mighty strawman you invented. Workers are going to do the bare minimum to not get fired when it literally doesn’t matter how much they work, their income will be the same. When workers are invested in an organization, they do more work.
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          +body: "THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves."
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            Literally sharing nazi propaganda from Hearst press lol\n
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            Anyway, capitalism is known for never having famines or economic crises, especially not cyclical ones
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            You literally only have one question, the rest of it is opining.\n
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            You’re assuming a wage labor model and that people working twice as efficiently and at half intensity would result in decreased production.\n
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            1. wage labor models aren’t universal\n
            2. there is no reasoning stated for why production would go down\n
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            You’re assuming people would have to be fired to maintain competitive growth. This is based on the logic of firms competing to capture market share. There isn’t really a rational reason for this to need to happen under systems were the point is to accommodate human need, not to maximize profit.
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          +body: "Do you think the shareholders are active in problem solving? Workers include basically everyone but the shareholders. The tech guys, the executives, the managers."
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          +body: "Read the economy and class structure of german fascism if you want a detailed explanation for “scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds”"
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          +body: """
            > And yes, the only pro-Western nation ever falling into a serious Food-Crisis was… Haiti.\n
            \n
            Read Late Victorian Holocausts if you want to be less wrong.\n
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            > Well, actually I am sharing “Wikipedia Propaganda” but if you want to call Wikipedia Nazi-Propaganda…\n
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            The holodomor was originally fabricated by a hearst press associate at a time when Mr Hearst and the third Reich were openly collaborating on spreading nazi propaganda in the US. The famine was bad but the myth that it was a genocide needs to die as it is literally nazi propaganda and was used as a justification for collaborating with the holocaust in Eastern Europe\n
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            This is in fact the mainstream academic position. You may look to Conquest, Davies, and Wheatcroft, who are genuinely anticommunist historians, for their analysis (they all say it wasn’t a genocide)
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            > Because the fraction of the current world that reads every day and learns every day is extremely small.\n
            \n
            Socialist countries are famous for literacy and education drives\n
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            > Again, like I said before, how many people around you come back from work and want to read technical books and watch courses instead of chilling, or hanging out with friends? I have two friends who are nut jobs like me and work all the time. EVERYONE else is lazy and just wants to have fun after work, and that’s in my circle. This spans over decades in the different jobs and sectors I worked at, in different countries. Do you have a different experience around you? I have trouble convincing people to read for 30 minutes every day.\n
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            I dont think it is reasonable to assume humans will act the same way in all conditions. I know people who just slack off, and its generally because there is no incentive not to do the bare minimum when you are alienated from your labor
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            Better to have them making the decision than capitalists, who make more money for paying employees less\n
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            Also who says half of them have to be fired? Can’t everyone just work less?
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            Your only question is “what am I missing” and the answer is an economics education.\n
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            But to address your “concerns” you’re operating on the mindset of maximizing profit to compete against other firms maximizing profit, which is only a problem under capitalism (until you reach the monopoly stage)
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            > Late Victorian Age\n
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            It is literally a book about western liberal democracies committing genocide, including through intentionally creating famines.\n
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            > Oh, and you claim the Holodomor didn’t happen? Well, let me guess, Stalin also didn’t got 30 million sowiet people killed?\n
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          +body: "Read “riding the wave” fo learn about how Scandinavian countries are beneficiaries of the imperialist system"
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            > Maybe you’ll change your mind one day and understand why the world we live in is the way we live in.\n
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            > But to summarize. You basically want to wreck the current system on the basis that everyone will be diligent, reading all the time, just for the “greater good”, more so than their own profit.\n
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            No, that’s a strawman. People won’t all be diligent. But they will be more productive in general when they are not alienated from their labor. This has been proven with a bunch of economic data on socialist countries and data on cooperatives even within a capitalist environment.\n
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            > And btw, about the “bare minimum”. No one has a reason to not do the bare minimum as they don’t get fired (consequences). There will always be the lazy guy who does the bare minimum, and everyone will get lazier because they’ll get jealous with zero consequences.\n
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            You’re just literally describing capitalism and being like, what about this problem under socialism? The consequences are youre not contributing. Do you think everyone is suddenly going to be less motivated when they’re actually able to realize the product of their labor, instead of having a parasite on top taking it?
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            Thats it interesting scenario, but why are you assuming that there is a significant segment that won’t want to learn, especially when they’re no longer alienated from their labor? And why are you assuming that the total laborers will increase with new technology, when you can retrain existing workers?\n
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            I dont think your scenario is realistic, it kinda reads as really misanthropic
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            No, overthrowing capitalism and beginning a transition to a more rational economic system increases your life expectancy. You can literally look up graphs.\n
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            [statista.com/…/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041395/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/)
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          +body: "Yes. All of those countries had more civil rights and longer life expectancy after the revolution"
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            See you’re still trapped within the logic of capitalism which maximizes profits and expansion over other concerns.\n
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            > So, assuming we want to keep everyone (including useless people who’d rather have beer instead of reading a book to learn the new stuff), the income of everyone will just go down over time. Eventually, with no one getting fire there won’t be enough money to go around to feed them. What am I missing here?\n
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            These are all massive assumptions
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            Unfortunately in the case of econ 101, you are taught that 2+2=5 most modern econ is neoclassical, which means operating on pre-marx economics and just ignoring marxist critiques of the political economy.\n
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            > and money falls from the sky, and everyone being lazy leads to growth, I’ll ask them to justify.\n
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            Thats a mighty strawman you invented. Workers are going to do the bare minimum to not get fired when it literally doesn’t matter how much they work, their income will be the same. When workers are invested in an organization, they do more work.
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          +body: "THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves."
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            Literally sharing nazi propaganda from Hearst press lol\n
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            Anyway, capitalism is known for never having famines or economic crises, especially not cyclical ones
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            You literally only have one question, the rest of it is opining.\n
            \n
            You’re assuming a wage labor model and that people working twice as efficiently and at half intensity would result in decreased production.\n
            \n
            1. wage labor models aren’t universal\n
            2. there is no reasoning stated for why production would go down\n
            \n
            You’re assuming people would have to be fired to maintain competitive growth. This is based on the logic of firms competing to capture market share. There isn’t really a rational reason for this to need to happen under systems were the point is to accommodate human need, not to maximize profit.
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          +body: "Do you think the shareholders are active in problem solving? Workers include basically everyone but the shareholders. The tech guys, the executives, the managers."
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          +body: "Read the economy and class structure of german fascism if you want a detailed explanation for “scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds”"
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            > And yes, the only pro-Western nation ever falling into a serious Food-Crisis was… Haiti.\n
            \n
            Read Late Victorian Holocausts if you want to be less wrong.\n
            \n
            > Well, actually I am sharing “Wikipedia Propaganda” but if you want to call Wikipedia Nazi-Propaganda…\n
            \n
            The holodomor was originally fabricated by a hearst press associate at a time when Mr Hearst and the third Reich were openly collaborating on spreading nazi propaganda in the US. The famine was bad but the myth that it was a genocide needs to die as it is literally nazi propaganda and was used as a justification for collaborating with the holocaust in Eastern Europe\n
            \n
            This is in fact the mainstream academic position. You may look to Conquest, Davies, and Wheatcroft, who are genuinely anticommunist historians, for their analysis (they all say it wasn’t a genocide)
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            > Because the fraction of the current world that reads every day and learns every day is extremely small.\n
            \n
            Socialist countries are famous for literacy and education drives\n
            \n
            > Again, like I said before, how many people around you come back from work and want to read technical books and watch courses instead of chilling, or hanging out with friends? I have two friends who are nut jobs like me and work all the time. EVERYONE else is lazy and just wants to have fun after work, and that’s in my circle. This spans over decades in the different jobs and sectors I worked at, in different countries. Do you have a different experience around you? I have trouble convincing people to read for 30 minutes every day.\n
            \n
            I dont think it is reasonable to assume humans will act the same way in all conditions. I know people who just slack off, and its generally because there is no incentive not to do the bare minimum when you are alienated from your labor
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            Better to have them making the decision than capitalists, who make more money for paying employees less\n
            \n
            Also who says half of them have to be fired? Can’t everyone just work less?
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            Your only question is “what am I missing” and the answer is an economics education.\n
            \n
            But to address your “concerns” you’re operating on the mindset of maximizing profit to compete against other firms maximizing profit, which is only a problem under capitalism (until you reach the monopoly stage)
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            > Late Victorian Age\n
            \n
            It is literally a book about western liberal democracies committing genocide, including through intentionally creating famines.\n
            \n
            > Oh, and you claim the Holodomor didn’t happen? Well, let me guess, Stalin also didn’t got 30 million sowiet people killed?\n
            \n
            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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          +body: "Read “riding the wave” fo learn about how Scandinavian countries are beneficiaries of the imperialist system"
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            I will repeat:\n
            \n
            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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            > But to summarize. You basically want to wreck the current system on the basis that everyone will be diligent, reading all the time, just for the “greater good”, more so than their own profit.\n
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            You’re just literally describing capitalism and being like, what about this problem under socialism? The consequences are youre not contributing. Do you think everyone is suddenly going to be less motivated when they’re actually able to realize the product of their labor, instead of having a parasite on top taking it?
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            Thats it interesting scenario, but why are you assuming that there is a significant segment that won’t want to learn, especially when they’re no longer alienated from their labor? And why are you assuming that the total laborers will increase with new technology, when you can retrain existing workers?\n
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            No, overthrowing capitalism and beginning a transition to a more rational economic system increases your life expectancy. You can literally look up graphs.\n
            \n
            [statista.com/…/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041395/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/)
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            See you’re still trapped within the logic of capitalism which maximizes profits and expansion over other concerns.\n
            \n
            > So, assuming we want to keep everyone (including useless people who’d rather have beer instead of reading a book to learn the new stuff), the income of everyone will just go down over time. Eventually, with no one getting fire there won’t be enough money to go around to feed them. What am I missing here?\n
            \n
            These are all massive assumptions
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            Unfortunately in the case of econ 101, you are taught that 2+2=5 most modern econ is neoclassical, which means operating on pre-marx economics and just ignoring marxist critiques of the political economy.\n
            \n
            > and money falls from the sky, and everyone being lazy leads to growth, I’ll ask them to justify.\n
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            Thats a mighty strawman you invented. Workers are going to do the bare minimum to not get fired when it literally doesn’t matter how much they work, their income will be the same. When workers are invested in an organization, they do more work.
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          +body: "THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves."
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            Literally sharing nazi propaganda from Hearst press lol\n
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            Anyway, capitalism is known for never having famines or economic crises, especially not cyclical ones
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            You literally only have one question, the rest of it is opining.\n
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            You’re assuming a wage labor model and that people working twice as efficiently and at half intensity would result in decreased production.\n
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            1. wage labor models aren’t universal\n
            2. there is no reasoning stated for why production would go down\n
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            You’re assuming people would have to be fired to maintain competitive growth. This is based on the logic of firms competing to capture market share. There isn’t really a rational reason for this to need to happen under systems were the point is to accommodate human need, not to maximize profit.
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          +body: "Do you think the shareholders are active in problem solving? Workers include basically everyone but the shareholders. The tech guys, the executives, the managers."
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          +body: "Read the economy and class structure of german fascism if you want a detailed explanation for “scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds”"
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          +body: """
            > And yes, the only pro-Western nation ever falling into a serious Food-Crisis was… Haiti.\n
            \n
            Read Late Victorian Holocausts if you want to be less wrong.\n
            \n
            > Well, actually I am sharing “Wikipedia Propaganda” but if you want to call Wikipedia Nazi-Propaganda…\n
            \n
            The holodomor was originally fabricated by a hearst press associate at a time when Mr Hearst and the third Reich were openly collaborating on spreading nazi propaganda in the US. The famine was bad but the myth that it was a genocide needs to die as it is literally nazi propaganda and was used as a justification for collaborating with the holocaust in Eastern Europe\n
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            This is in fact the mainstream academic position. You may look to Conquest, Davies, and Wheatcroft, who are genuinely anticommunist historians, for their analysis (they all say it wasn’t a genocide)
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            > Because the fraction of the current world that reads every day and learns every day is extremely small.\n
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            Socialist countries are famous for literacy and education drives\n
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            > Again, like I said before, how many people around you come back from work and want to read technical books and watch courses instead of chilling, or hanging out with friends? I have two friends who are nut jobs like me and work all the time. EVERYONE else is lazy and just wants to have fun after work, and that’s in my circle. This spans over decades in the different jobs and sectors I worked at, in different countries. Do you have a different experience around you? I have trouble convincing people to read for 30 minutes every day.\n
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            Better to have them making the decision than capitalists, who make more money for paying employees less\n
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            Also who says half of them have to be fired? Can’t everyone just work less?
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            Your only question is “what am I missing” and the answer is an economics education.\n
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            But to address your “concerns” you’re operating on the mindset of maximizing profit to compete against other firms maximizing profit, which is only a problem under capitalism (until you reach the monopoly stage)
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            > Late Victorian Age\n
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            It is literally a book about western liberal democracies committing genocide, including through intentionally creating famines.\n
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            > Oh, and you claim the Holodomor didn’t happen? Well, let me guess, Stalin also didn’t got 30 million sowiet people killed?\n
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            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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          +body: "Read “riding the wave” fo learn about how Scandinavian countries are beneficiaries of the imperialist system"
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            I will repeat:\n
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            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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            > Maybe you’ll change your mind one day and understand why the world we live in is the way we live in.\n
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            This from the person who is spouting econ 101 nonsense.
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            > But to summarize. You basically want to wreck the current system on the basis that everyone will be diligent, reading all the time, just for the “greater good”, more so than their own profit.\n
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            No, that’s a strawman. People won’t all be diligent. But they will be more productive in general when they are not alienated from their labor. This has been proven with a bunch of economic data on socialist countries and data on cooperatives even within a capitalist environment.\n
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            > And btw, about the “bare minimum”. No one has a reason to not do the bare minimum as they don’t get fired (consequences). There will always be the lazy guy who does the bare minimum, and everyone will get lazier because they’ll get jealous with zero consequences.\n
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            You’re just literally describing capitalism and being like, what about this problem under socialism? The consequences are youre not contributing. Do you think everyone is suddenly going to be less motivated when they’re actually able to realize the product of their labor, instead of having a parasite on top taking it?
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            Thats it interesting scenario, but why are you assuming that there is a significant segment that won’t want to learn, especially when they’re no longer alienated from their labor? And why are you assuming that the total laborers will increase with new technology, when you can retrain existing workers?\n
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            I dont think your scenario is realistic, it kinda reads as really misanthropic
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            No, overthrowing capitalism and beginning a transition to a more rational economic system increases your life expectancy. You can literally look up graphs.\n
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            [statista.com/…/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041395/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/)
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            See you’re still trapped within the logic of capitalism which maximizes profits and expansion over other concerns.\n
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            > So, assuming we want to keep everyone (including useless people who’d rather have beer instead of reading a book to learn the new stuff), the income of everyone will just go down over time. Eventually, with no one getting fire there won’t be enough money to go around to feed them. What am I missing here?\n
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            These are all massive assumptions
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            Unfortunately in the case of econ 101, you are taught that 2+2=5 most modern econ is neoclassical, which means operating on pre-marx economics and just ignoring marxist critiques of the political economy.\n
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            > and money falls from the sky, and everyone being lazy leads to growth, I’ll ask them to justify.\n
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            Thats a mighty strawman you invented. Workers are going to do the bare minimum to not get fired when it literally doesn’t matter how much they work, their income will be the same. When workers are invested in an organization, they do more work.
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          +body: "THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves."
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            Literally sharing nazi propaganda from Hearst press lol\n
            \n
            Anyway, capitalism is known for never having famines or economic crises, especially not cyclical ones
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            You literally only have one question, the rest of it is opining.\n
            \n
            You’re assuming a wage labor model and that people working twice as efficiently and at half intensity would result in decreased production.\n
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            1. wage labor models aren’t universal\n
            2. there is no reasoning stated for why production would go down\n
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            You’re assuming people would have to be fired to maintain competitive growth. This is based on the logic of firms competing to capture market share. There isn’t really a rational reason for this to need to happen under systems were the point is to accommodate human need, not to maximize profit.
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          +body: "Do you think the shareholders are active in problem solving? Workers include basically everyone but the shareholders. The tech guys, the executives, the managers."
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          +body: "Read the economy and class structure of german fascism if you want a detailed explanation for “scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds”"
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          +body: """
            > And yes, the only pro-Western nation ever falling into a serious Food-Crisis was… Haiti.\n
            \n
            Read Late Victorian Holocausts if you want to be less wrong.\n
            \n
            > Well, actually I am sharing “Wikipedia Propaganda” but if you want to call Wikipedia Nazi-Propaganda…\n
            \n
            The holodomor was originally fabricated by a hearst press associate at a time when Mr Hearst and the third Reich were openly collaborating on spreading nazi propaganda in the US. The famine was bad but the myth that it was a genocide needs to die as it is literally nazi propaganda and was used as a justification for collaborating with the holocaust in Eastern Europe\n
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            This is in fact the mainstream academic position. You may look to Conquest, Davies, and Wheatcroft, who are genuinely anticommunist historians, for their analysis (they all say it wasn’t a genocide)
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            > Because the fraction of the current world that reads every day and learns every day is extremely small.\n
            \n
            Socialist countries are famous for literacy and education drives\n
            \n
            > Again, like I said before, how many people around you come back from work and want to read technical books and watch courses instead of chilling, or hanging out with friends? I have two friends who are nut jobs like me and work all the time. EVERYONE else is lazy and just wants to have fun after work, and that’s in my circle. This spans over decades in the different jobs and sectors I worked at, in different countries. Do you have a different experience around you? I have trouble convincing people to read for 30 minutes every day.\n
            \n
            I dont think it is reasonable to assume humans will act the same way in all conditions. I know people who just slack off, and its generally because there is no incentive not to do the bare minimum when you are alienated from your labor
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            Better to have them making the decision than capitalists, who make more money for paying employees less\n
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            Also who says half of them have to be fired? Can’t everyone just work less?
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            Your only question is “what am I missing” and the answer is an economics education.\n
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            But to address your “concerns” you’re operating on the mindset of maximizing profit to compete against other firms maximizing profit, which is only a problem under capitalism (until you reach the monopoly stage)
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            > Late Victorian Age\n
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            It is literally a book about western liberal democracies committing genocide, including through intentionally creating famines.\n
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            > But to summarize. You basically want to wreck the current system on the basis that everyone will be diligent, reading all the time, just for the “greater good”, more so than their own profit.\n
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            No, that’s a strawman. People won’t all be diligent. But they will be more productive in general when they are not alienated from their labor. This has been proven with a bunch of economic data on socialist countries and data on cooperatives even within a capitalist environment.\n
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            You’re just literally describing capitalism and being like, what about this problem under socialism? The consequences are youre not contributing. Do you think everyone is suddenly going to be less motivated when they’re actually able to realize the product of their labor, instead of having a parasite on top taking it?
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            Thats it interesting scenario, but why are you assuming that there is a significant segment that won’t want to learn, especially when they’re no longer alienated from their labor? And why are you assuming that the total laborers will increase with new technology, when you can retrain existing workers?\n
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            I dont think your scenario is realistic, it kinda reads as really misanthropic
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            No, overthrowing capitalism and beginning a transition to a more rational economic system increases your life expectancy. You can literally look up graphs.\n
            \n
            [statista.com/…/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041395/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/)
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            See you’re still trapped within the logic of capitalism which maximizes profits and expansion over other concerns.\n
            \n
            > So, assuming we want to keep everyone (including useless people who’d rather have beer instead of reading a book to learn the new stuff), the income of everyone will just go down over time. Eventually, with no one getting fire there won’t be enough money to go around to feed them. What am I missing here?\n
            \n
            These are all massive assumptions
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            Unfortunately in the case of econ 101, you are taught that 2+2=5 most modern econ is neoclassical, which means operating on pre-marx economics and just ignoring marxist critiques of the political economy.\n
            \n
            > and money falls from the sky, and everyone being lazy leads to growth, I’ll ask them to justify.\n
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            Thats a mighty strawman you invented. Workers are going to do the bare minimum to not get fired when it literally doesn’t matter how much they work, their income will be the same. When workers are invested in an organization, they do more work.
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          +body: "THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves."
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            Literally sharing nazi propaganda from Hearst press lol\n
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            Anyway, capitalism is known for never having famines or economic crises, especially not cyclical ones
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            You literally only have one question, the rest of it is opining.\n
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            You’re assuming a wage labor model and that people working twice as efficiently and at half intensity would result in decreased production.\n
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            1. wage labor models aren’t universal\n
            2. there is no reasoning stated for why production would go down\n
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            You’re assuming people would have to be fired to maintain competitive growth. This is based on the logic of firms competing to capture market share. There isn’t really a rational reason for this to need to happen under systems were the point is to accommodate human need, not to maximize profit.
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          +body: "Do you think the shareholders are active in problem solving? Workers include basically everyone but the shareholders. The tech guys, the executives, the managers."
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          +body: "Read the economy and class structure of german fascism if you want a detailed explanation for “scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds”"
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          +body: """
            > And yes, the only pro-Western nation ever falling into a serious Food-Crisis was… Haiti.\n
            \n
            Read Late Victorian Holocausts if you want to be less wrong.\n
            \n
            > Well, actually I am sharing “Wikipedia Propaganda” but if you want to call Wikipedia Nazi-Propaganda…\n
            \n
            The holodomor was originally fabricated by a hearst press associate at a time when Mr Hearst and the third Reich were openly collaborating on spreading nazi propaganda in the US. The famine was bad but the myth that it was a genocide needs to die as it is literally nazi propaganda and was used as a justification for collaborating with the holocaust in Eastern Europe\n
            \n
            This is in fact the mainstream academic position. You may look to Conquest, Davies, and Wheatcroft, who are genuinely anticommunist historians, for their analysis (they all say it wasn’t a genocide)
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            > Because the fraction of the current world that reads every day and learns every day is extremely small.\n
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            Socialist countries are famous for literacy and education drives\n
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            Better to have them making the decision than capitalists, who make more money for paying employees less\n
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            Also who says half of them have to be fired? Can’t everyone just work less?
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            Your only question is “what am I missing” and the answer is an economics education.\n
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            But to address your “concerns” you’re operating on the mindset of maximizing profit to compete against other firms maximizing profit, which is only a problem under capitalism (until you reach the monopoly stage)
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            > Late Victorian Age\n
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            It is literally a book about western liberal democracies committing genocide, including through intentionally creating famines.\n
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            > Oh, and you claim the Holodomor didn’t happen? Well, let me guess, Stalin also didn’t got 30 million sowiet people killed?\n
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            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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          +body: "Read “riding the wave” fo learn about how Scandinavian countries are beneficiaries of the imperialist system"
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            I will repeat:\n
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            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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            > Maybe you’ll change your mind one day and understand why the world we live in is the way we live in.\n
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            This from the person who is spouting econ 101 nonsense.
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            > But to summarize. You basically want to wreck the current system on the basis that everyone will be diligent, reading all the time, just for the “greater good”, more so than their own profit.\n
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            No, that’s a strawman. People won’t all be diligent. But they will be more productive in general when they are not alienated from their labor. This has been proven with a bunch of economic data on socialist countries and data on cooperatives even within a capitalist environment.\n
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            > And btw, about the “bare minimum”. No one has a reason to not do the bare minimum as they don’t get fired (consequences). There will always be the lazy guy who does the bare minimum, and everyone will get lazier because they’ll get jealous with zero consequences.\n
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            You’re just literally describing capitalism and being like, what about this problem under socialism? The consequences are youre not contributing. Do you think everyone is suddenly going to be less motivated when they’re actually able to realize the product of their labor, instead of having a parasite on top taking it?
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            Thats it interesting scenario, but why are you assuming that there is a significant segment that won’t want to learn, especially when they’re no longer alienated from their labor? And why are you assuming that the total laborers will increase with new technology, when you can retrain existing workers?\n
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            I dont think your scenario is realistic, it kinda reads as really misanthropic
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            No, overthrowing capitalism and beginning a transition to a more rational economic system increases your life expectancy. You can literally look up graphs.\n
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            [statista.com/…/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041395/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/)
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            See you’re still trapped within the logic of capitalism which maximizes profits and expansion over other concerns.\n
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            > So, assuming we want to keep everyone (including useless people who’d rather have beer instead of reading a book to learn the new stuff), the income of everyone will just go down over time. Eventually, with no one getting fire there won’t be enough money to go around to feed them. What am I missing here?\n
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            These are all massive assumptions
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            Unfortunately in the case of econ 101, you are taught that 2+2=5 most modern econ is neoclassical, which means operating on pre-marx economics and just ignoring marxist critiques of the political economy.\n
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            > and money falls from the sky, and everyone being lazy leads to growth, I’ll ask them to justify.\n
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            Thats a mighty strawman you invented. Workers are going to do the bare minimum to not get fired when it literally doesn’t matter how much they work, their income will be the same. When workers are invested in an organization, they do more work.
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          +body: "THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves."
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            Literally sharing nazi propaganda from Hearst press lol\n
            \n
            Anyway, capitalism is known for never having famines or economic crises, especially not cyclical ones
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            You literally only have one question, the rest of it is opining.\n
            \n
            You’re assuming a wage labor model and that people working twice as efficiently and at half intensity would result in decreased production.\n
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            1. wage labor models aren’t universal\n
            2. there is no reasoning stated for why production would go down\n
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            You’re assuming people would have to be fired to maintain competitive growth. This is based on the logic of firms competing to capture market share. There isn’t really a rational reason for this to need to happen under systems were the point is to accommodate human need, not to maximize profit.
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          +body: "Do you think the shareholders are active in problem solving? Workers include basically everyone but the shareholders. The tech guys, the executives, the managers."
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          +body: "Read the economy and class structure of german fascism if you want a detailed explanation for “scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds”"
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          +body: """
            > And yes, the only pro-Western nation ever falling into a serious Food-Crisis was… Haiti.\n
            \n
            Read Late Victorian Holocausts if you want to be less wrong.\n
            \n
            > Well, actually I am sharing “Wikipedia Propaganda” but if you want to call Wikipedia Nazi-Propaganda…\n
            \n
            The holodomor was originally fabricated by a hearst press associate at a time when Mr Hearst and the third Reich were openly collaborating on spreading nazi propaganda in the US. The famine was bad but the myth that it was a genocide needs to die as it is literally nazi propaganda and was used as a justification for collaborating with the holocaust in Eastern Europe\n
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            This is in fact the mainstream academic position. You may look to Conquest, Davies, and Wheatcroft, who are genuinely anticommunist historians, for their analysis (they all say it wasn’t a genocide)
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            > Because the fraction of the current world that reads every day and learns every day is extremely small.\n
            \n
            Socialist countries are famous for literacy and education drives\n
            \n
            > Again, like I said before, how many people around you come back from work and want to read technical books and watch courses instead of chilling, or hanging out with friends? I have two friends who are nut jobs like me and work all the time. EVERYONE else is lazy and just wants to have fun after work, and that’s in my circle. This spans over decades in the different jobs and sectors I worked at, in different countries. Do you have a different experience around you? I have trouble convincing people to read for 30 minutes every day.\n
            \n
            I dont think it is reasonable to assume humans will act the same way in all conditions. I know people who just slack off, and its generally because there is no incentive not to do the bare minimum when you are alienated from your labor
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            Better to have them making the decision than capitalists, who make more money for paying employees less\n
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            Also who says half of them have to be fired? Can’t everyone just work less?
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            Your only question is “what am I missing” and the answer is an economics education.\n
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            But to address your “concerns” you’re operating on the mindset of maximizing profit to compete against other firms maximizing profit, which is only a problem under capitalism (until you reach the monopoly stage)
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            > Late Victorian Age\n
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            > But to summarize. You basically want to wreck the current system on the basis that everyone will be diligent, reading all the time, just for the “greater good”, more so than their own profit.\n
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            No, that’s a strawman. People won’t all be diligent. But they will be more productive in general when they are not alienated from their labor. This has been proven with a bunch of economic data on socialist countries and data on cooperatives even within a capitalist environment.\n
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            > And btw, about the “bare minimum”. No one has a reason to not do the bare minimum as they don’t get fired (consequences). There will always be the lazy guy who does the bare minimum, and everyone will get lazier because they’ll get jealous with zero consequences.\n
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            You’re just literally describing capitalism and being like, what about this problem under socialism? The consequences are youre not contributing. Do you think everyone is suddenly going to be less motivated when they’re actually able to realize the product of their labor, instead of having a parasite on top taking it?
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            Thats it interesting scenario, but why are you assuming that there is a significant segment that won’t want to learn, especially when they’re no longer alienated from their labor? And why are you assuming that the total laborers will increase with new technology, when you can retrain existing workers?\n
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            I dont think your scenario is realistic, it kinda reads as really misanthropic
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            No, overthrowing capitalism and beginning a transition to a more rational economic system increases your life expectancy. You can literally look up graphs.\n
            \n
            [statista.com/…/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041395/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/)
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            See you’re still trapped within the logic of capitalism which maximizes profits and expansion over other concerns.\n
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            > So, assuming we want to keep everyone (including useless people who’d rather have beer instead of reading a book to learn the new stuff), the income of everyone will just go down over time. Eventually, with no one getting fire there won’t be enough money to go around to feed them. What am I missing here?\n
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            These are all massive assumptions
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            Unfortunately in the case of econ 101, you are taught that 2+2=5 most modern econ is neoclassical, which means operating on pre-marx economics and just ignoring marxist critiques of the political economy.\n
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            > and money falls from the sky, and everyone being lazy leads to growth, I’ll ask them to justify.\n
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            Thats a mighty strawman you invented. Workers are going to do the bare minimum to not get fired when it literally doesn’t matter how much they work, their income will be the same. When workers are invested in an organization, they do more work.
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          +body: "THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves."
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            Literally sharing nazi propaganda from Hearst press lol\n
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            Anyway, capitalism is known for never having famines or economic crises, especially not cyclical ones
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            You literally only have one question, the rest of it is opining.\n
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            You’re assuming a wage labor model and that people working twice as efficiently and at half intensity would result in decreased production.\n
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            1. wage labor models aren’t universal\n
            2. there is no reasoning stated for why production would go down\n
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            You’re assuming people would have to be fired to maintain competitive growth. This is based on the logic of firms competing to capture market share. There isn’t really a rational reason for this to need to happen under systems were the point is to accommodate human need, not to maximize profit.
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          +body: "Do you think the shareholders are active in problem solving? Workers include basically everyone but the shareholders. The tech guys, the executives, the managers."
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          +body: "Read the economy and class structure of german fascism if you want a detailed explanation for “scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds”"
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            > And yes, the only pro-Western nation ever falling into a serious Food-Crisis was… Haiti.\n
            \n
            Read Late Victorian Holocausts if you want to be less wrong.\n
            \n
            > Well, actually I am sharing “Wikipedia Propaganda” but if you want to call Wikipedia Nazi-Propaganda…\n
            \n
            The holodomor was originally fabricated by a hearst press associate at a time when Mr Hearst and the third Reich were openly collaborating on spreading nazi propaganda in the US. The famine was bad but the myth that it was a genocide needs to die as it is literally nazi propaganda and was used as a justification for collaborating with the holocaust in Eastern Europe\n
            \n
            This is in fact the mainstream academic position. You may look to Conquest, Davies, and Wheatcroft, who are genuinely anticommunist historians, for their analysis (they all say it wasn’t a genocide)
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            > Because the fraction of the current world that reads every day and learns every day is extremely small.\n
            \n
            Socialist countries are famous for literacy and education drives\n
            \n
            > Again, like I said before, how many people around you come back from work and want to read technical books and watch courses instead of chilling, or hanging out with friends? I have two friends who are nut jobs like me and work all the time. EVERYONE else is lazy and just wants to have fun after work, and that’s in my circle. This spans over decades in the different jobs and sectors I worked at, in different countries. Do you have a different experience around you? I have trouble convincing people to read for 30 minutes every day.\n
            \n
            I dont think it is reasonable to assume humans will act the same way in all conditions. I know people who just slack off, and its generally because there is no incentive not to do the bare minimum when you are alienated from your labor
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            Better to have them making the decision than capitalists, who make more money for paying employees less\n
            \n
            Also who says half of them have to be fired? Can’t everyone just work less?
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            Your only question is “what am I missing” and the answer is an economics education.\n
            \n
            But to address your “concerns” you’re operating on the mindset of maximizing profit to compete against other firms maximizing profit, which is only a problem under capitalism (until you reach the monopoly stage)
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            > Late Victorian Age\n
            \n
            It is literally a book about western liberal democracies committing genocide, including through intentionally creating famines.\n
            \n
            > Oh, and you claim the Holodomor didn’t happen? Well, let me guess, Stalin also didn’t got 30 million sowiet people killed?\n
            \n
            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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          +body: "Read “riding the wave” fo learn about how Scandinavian countries are beneficiaries of the imperialist system"
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          +body: """
            I will repeat:\n
            \n
            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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          +body: """
            > Maybe you’ll change your mind one day and understand why the world we live in is the way we live in.\n
            \n
            This from the person who is spouting econ 101 nonsense.
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            > But to summarize. You basically want to wreck the current system on the basis that everyone will be diligent, reading all the time, just for the “greater good”, more so than their own profit.\n
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            You’re just literally describing capitalism and being like, what about this problem under socialism? The consequences are youre not contributing. Do you think everyone is suddenly going to be less motivated when they’re actually able to realize the product of their labor, instead of having a parasite on top taking it?
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            Thats it interesting scenario, but why are you assuming that there is a significant segment that won’t want to learn, especially when they’re no longer alienated from their labor? And why are you assuming that the total laborers will increase with new technology, when you can retrain existing workers?\n
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            No, overthrowing capitalism and beginning a transition to a more rational economic system increases your life expectancy. You can literally look up graphs.\n
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            [statista.com/…/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041395/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/)
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          +body: "Oof, too real"
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            See you’re still trapped within the logic of capitalism which maximizes profits and expansion over other concerns.\n
            \n
            > So, assuming we want to keep everyone (including useless people who’d rather have beer instead of reading a book to learn the new stuff), the income of everyone will just go down over time. Eventually, with no one getting fire there won’t be enough money to go around to feed them. What am I missing here?\n
            \n
            These are all massive assumptions
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            Unfortunately in the case of econ 101, you are taught that 2+2=5 most modern econ is neoclassical, which means operating on pre-marx economics and just ignoring marxist critiques of the political economy.\n
            \n
            > and money falls from the sky, and everyone being lazy leads to growth, I’ll ask them to justify.\n
            \n
            Thats a mighty strawman you invented. Workers are going to do the bare minimum to not get fired when it literally doesn’t matter how much they work, their income will be the same. When workers are invested in an organization, they do more work.
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          +body: "THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves."
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            Literally sharing nazi propaganda from Hearst press lol\n
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            Anyway, capitalism is known for never having famines or economic crises, especially not cyclical ones
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            You literally only have one question, the rest of it is opining.\n
            \n
            You’re assuming a wage labor model and that people working twice as efficiently and at half intensity would result in decreased production.\n
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            1. wage labor models aren’t universal\n
            2. there is no reasoning stated for why production would go down\n
            \n
            You’re assuming people would have to be fired to maintain competitive growth. This is based on the logic of firms competing to capture market share. There isn’t really a rational reason for this to need to happen under systems were the point is to accommodate human need, not to maximize profit.
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          +body: "Do you think the shareholders are active in problem solving? Workers include basically everyone but the shareholders. The tech guys, the executives, the managers."
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          +body: "Read the economy and class structure of german fascism if you want a detailed explanation for “scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds”"
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          +body: """
            > And yes, the only pro-Western nation ever falling into a serious Food-Crisis was… Haiti.\n
            \n
            Read Late Victorian Holocausts if you want to be less wrong.\n
            \n
            > Well, actually I am sharing “Wikipedia Propaganda” but if you want to call Wikipedia Nazi-Propaganda…\n
            \n
            The holodomor was originally fabricated by a hearst press associate at a time when Mr Hearst and the third Reich were openly collaborating on spreading nazi propaganda in the US. The famine was bad but the myth that it was a genocide needs to die as it is literally nazi propaganda and was used as a justification for collaborating with the holocaust in Eastern Europe\n
            \n
            This is in fact the mainstream academic position. You may look to Conquest, Davies, and Wheatcroft, who are genuinely anticommunist historians, for their analysis (they all say it wasn’t a genocide)
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            > Because the fraction of the current world that reads every day and learns every day is extremely small.\n
            \n
            Socialist countries are famous for literacy and education drives\n
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            I dont think it is reasonable to assume humans will act the same way in all conditions. I know people who just slack off, and its generally because there is no incentive not to do the bare minimum when you are alienated from your labor
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            Better to have them making the decision than capitalists, who make more money for paying employees less\n
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            Also who says half of them have to be fired? Can’t everyone just work less?
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            Your only question is “what am I missing” and the answer is an economics education.\n
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            But to address your “concerns” you’re operating on the mindset of maximizing profit to compete against other firms maximizing profit, which is only a problem under capitalism (until you reach the monopoly stage)
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            > Late Victorian Age\n
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            It is literally a book about western liberal democracies committing genocide, including through intentionally creating famines.\n
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            > Oh, and you claim the Holodomor didn’t happen? Well, let me guess, Stalin also didn’t got 30 million sowiet people killed?\n
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            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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            I will repeat:\n
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            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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            > Maybe you’ll change your mind one day and understand why the world we live in is the way we live in.\n
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            This from the person who is spouting econ 101 nonsense.
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            > But to summarize. You basically want to wreck the current system on the basis that everyone will be diligent, reading all the time, just for the “greater good”, more so than their own profit.\n
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            No, that’s a strawman. People won’t all be diligent. But they will be more productive in general when they are not alienated from their labor. This has been proven with a bunch of economic data on socialist countries and data on cooperatives even within a capitalist environment.\n
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            > And btw, about the “bare minimum”. No one has a reason to not do the bare minimum as they don’t get fired (consequences). There will always be the lazy guy who does the bare minimum, and everyone will get lazier because they’ll get jealous with zero consequences.\n
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            You’re just literally describing capitalism and being like, what about this problem under socialism? The consequences are youre not contributing. Do you think everyone is suddenly going to be less motivated when they’re actually able to realize the product of their labor, instead of having a parasite on top taking it?
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            Thats it interesting scenario, but why are you assuming that there is a significant segment that won’t want to learn, especially when they’re no longer alienated from their labor? And why are you assuming that the total laborers will increase with new technology, when you can retrain existing workers?\n
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            I dont think your scenario is realistic, it kinda reads as really misanthropic
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            No, overthrowing capitalism and beginning a transition to a more rational economic system increases your life expectancy. You can literally look up graphs.\n
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            [statista.com/…/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041395/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/)
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          +body: "Yes. All of those countries had more civil rights and longer life expectancy after the revolution"
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            Unfortunately in the case of econ 101, you are taught that 2+2=5 most modern econ is neoclassical, which means operating on pre-marx economics and just ignoring marxist critiques of the political economy.\n
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            > and money falls from the sky, and everyone being lazy leads to growth, I’ll ask them to justify.\n
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            Thats a mighty strawman you invented. Workers are going to do the bare minimum to not get fired when it literally doesn’t matter how much they work, their income will be the same. When workers are invested in an organization, they do more work.
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            Literally sharing nazi propaganda from Hearst press lol\n
            \n
            Anyway, capitalism is known for never having famines or economic crises, especially not cyclical ones
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            You literally only have one question, the rest of it is opining.\n
            \n
            You’re assuming a wage labor model and that people working twice as efficiently and at half intensity would result in decreased production.\n
            \n
            1. wage labor models aren’t universal\n
            2. there is no reasoning stated for why production would go down\n
            \n
            You’re assuming people would have to be fired to maintain competitive growth. This is based on the logic of firms competing to capture market share. There isn’t really a rational reason for this to need to happen under systems were the point is to accommodate human need, not to maximize profit.
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          +body: "Do you think the shareholders are active in problem solving? Workers include basically everyone but the shareholders. The tech guys, the executives, the managers."
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          +body: "Read the economy and class structure of german fascism if you want a detailed explanation for “scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds”"
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            > And yes, the only pro-Western nation ever falling into a serious Food-Crisis was… Haiti.\n
            \n
            Read Late Victorian Holocausts if you want to be less wrong.\n
            \n
            > Well, actually I am sharing “Wikipedia Propaganda” but if you want to call Wikipedia Nazi-Propaganda…\n
            \n
            The holodomor was originally fabricated by a hearst press associate at a time when Mr Hearst and the third Reich were openly collaborating on spreading nazi propaganda in the US. The famine was bad but the myth that it was a genocide needs to die as it is literally nazi propaganda and was used as a justification for collaborating with the holocaust in Eastern Europe\n
            \n
            This is in fact the mainstream academic position. You may look to Conquest, Davies, and Wheatcroft, who are genuinely anticommunist historians, for their analysis (they all say it wasn’t a genocide)
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            > Because the fraction of the current world that reads every day and learns every day is extremely small.\n
            \n
            Socialist countries are famous for literacy and education drives\n
            \n
            > Again, like I said before, how many people around you come back from work and want to read technical books and watch courses instead of chilling, or hanging out with friends? I have two friends who are nut jobs like me and work all the time. EVERYONE else is lazy and just wants to have fun after work, and that’s in my circle. This spans over decades in the different jobs and sectors I worked at, in different countries. Do you have a different experience around you? I have trouble convincing people to read for 30 minutes every day.\n
            \n
            I dont think it is reasonable to assume humans will act the same way in all conditions. I know people who just slack off, and its generally because there is no incentive not to do the bare minimum when you are alienated from your labor
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            Better to have them making the decision than capitalists, who make more money for paying employees less\n
            \n
            Also who says half of them have to be fired? Can’t everyone just work less?
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            Your only question is “what am I missing” and the answer is an economics education.\n
            \n
            But to address your “concerns” you’re operating on the mindset of maximizing profit to compete against other firms maximizing profit, which is only a problem under capitalism (until you reach the monopoly stage)
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            > Late Victorian Age\n
            \n
            It is literally a book about western liberal democracies committing genocide, including through intentionally creating famines.\n
            \n
            > Oh, and you claim the Holodomor didn’t happen? Well, let me guess, Stalin also didn’t got 30 million sowiet people killed?\n
            \n
            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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            > Maybe you’ll change your mind one day and understand why the world we live in is the way we live in.\n
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            This from the person who is spouting econ 101 nonsense.
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      See you’re still trapped within the logic of capitalism which maximizes profits and expansion over other concerns.\n
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            > But to summarize. You basically want to wreck the current system on the basis that everyone will be diligent, reading all the time, just for the “greater good”, more so than their own profit.\n
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            Thats it interesting scenario, but why are you assuming that there is a significant segment that won’t want to learn, especially when they’re no longer alienated from their labor? And why are you assuming that the total laborers will increase with new technology, when you can retrain existing workers?\n
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            I dont think your scenario is realistic, it kinda reads as really misanthropic
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            No, overthrowing capitalism and beginning a transition to a more rational economic system increases your life expectancy. You can literally look up graphs.\n
            \n
            [statista.com/…/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041395/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/)
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          +body: "Oof, too real"
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          +body: "Yes. All of those countries had more civil rights and longer life expectancy after the revolution"
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            Unfortunately in the case of econ 101, you are taught that 2+2=5 most modern econ is neoclassical, which means operating on pre-marx economics and just ignoring marxist critiques of the political economy.\n
            \n
            > and money falls from the sky, and everyone being lazy leads to growth, I’ll ask them to justify.\n
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            Thats a mighty strawman you invented. Workers are going to do the bare minimum to not get fired when it literally doesn’t matter how much they work, their income will be the same. When workers are invested in an organization, they do more work.
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          +body: "THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves."
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            Literally sharing nazi propaganda from Hearst press lol\n
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            Anyway, capitalism is known for never having famines or economic crises, especially not cyclical ones
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            You literally only have one question, the rest of it is opining.\n
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            You’re assuming a wage labor model and that people working twice as efficiently and at half intensity would result in decreased production.\n
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            1. wage labor models aren’t universal\n
            2. there is no reasoning stated for why production would go down\n
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            You’re assuming people would have to be fired to maintain competitive growth. This is based on the logic of firms competing to capture market share. There isn’t really a rational reason for this to need to happen under systems were the point is to accommodate human need, not to maximize profit.
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          +body: "Do you think the shareholders are active in problem solving? Workers include basically everyone but the shareholders. The tech guys, the executives, the managers."
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          +body: "Read the economy and class structure of german fascism if you want a detailed explanation for “scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds”"
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            > And yes, the only pro-Western nation ever falling into a serious Food-Crisis was… Haiti.\n
            \n
            Read Late Victorian Holocausts if you want to be less wrong.\n
            \n
            > Well, actually I am sharing “Wikipedia Propaganda” but if you want to call Wikipedia Nazi-Propaganda…\n
            \n
            The holodomor was originally fabricated by a hearst press associate at a time when Mr Hearst and the third Reich were openly collaborating on spreading nazi propaganda in the US. The famine was bad but the myth that it was a genocide needs to die as it is literally nazi propaganda and was used as a justification for collaborating with the holocaust in Eastern Europe\n
            \n
            This is in fact the mainstream academic position. You may look to Conquest, Davies, and Wheatcroft, who are genuinely anticommunist historians, for their analysis (they all say it wasn’t a genocide)
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            > Because the fraction of the current world that reads every day and learns every day is extremely small.\n
            \n
            Socialist countries are famous for literacy and education drives\n
            \n
            > Again, like I said before, how many people around you come back from work and want to read technical books and watch courses instead of chilling, or hanging out with friends? I have two friends who are nut jobs like me and work all the time. EVERYONE else is lazy and just wants to have fun after work, and that’s in my circle. This spans over decades in the different jobs and sectors I worked at, in different countries. Do you have a different experience around you? I have trouble convincing people to read for 30 minutes every day.\n
            \n
            I dont think it is reasonable to assume humans will act the same way in all conditions. I know people who just slack off, and its generally because there is no incentive not to do the bare minimum when you are alienated from your labor
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            Better to have them making the decision than capitalists, who make more money for paying employees less\n
            \n
            Also who says half of them have to be fired? Can’t everyone just work less?
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            Your only question is “what am I missing” and the answer is an economics education.\n
            \n
            But to address your “concerns” you’re operating on the mindset of maximizing profit to compete against other firms maximizing profit, which is only a problem under capitalism (until you reach the monopoly stage)
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            > Late Victorian Age\n
            \n
            It is literally a book about western liberal democracies committing genocide, including through intentionally creating famines.\n
            \n
            > Oh, and you claim the Holodomor didn’t happen? Well, let me guess, Stalin also didn’t got 30 million sowiet people killed?\n
            \n
            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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          +body: "Read “riding the wave” fo learn about how Scandinavian countries are beneficiaries of the imperialist system"
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            I will repeat:\n
            \n
            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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            > Maybe you’ll change your mind one day and understand why the world we live in is the way we live in.\n
            \n
            This from the person who is spouting econ 101 nonsense.
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      See you’re still trapped within the logic of capitalism which maximizes profits and expansion over other concerns.\n
      \n
      > So, assuming we want to keep everyone (including useless people who’d rather have beer instead of reading a book to learn the new stuff), the income of everyone will just go down over time. Eventually, with no one getting fire there won’t be enough money to go around to feed them. What am I missing here?\n
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      These are all massive assumptions
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            > But to summarize. You basically want to wreck the current system on the basis that everyone will be diligent, reading all the time, just for the “greater good”, more so than their own profit.\n
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            No, that’s a strawman. People won’t all be diligent. But they will be more productive in general when they are not alienated from their labor. This has been proven with a bunch of economic data on socialist countries and data on cooperatives even within a capitalist environment.\n
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            > And btw, about the “bare minimum”. No one has a reason to not do the bare minimum as they don’t get fired (consequences). There will always be the lazy guy who does the bare minimum, and everyone will get lazier because they’ll get jealous with zero consequences.\n
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            You’re just literally describing capitalism and being like, what about this problem under socialism? The consequences are youre not contributing. Do you think everyone is suddenly going to be less motivated when they’re actually able to realize the product of their labor, instead of having a parasite on top taking it?
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            Thats it interesting scenario, but why are you assuming that there is a significant segment that won’t want to learn, especially when they’re no longer alienated from their labor? And why are you assuming that the total laborers will increase with new technology, when you can retrain existing workers?\n
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            I dont think your scenario is realistic, it kinda reads as really misanthropic
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            No, overthrowing capitalism and beginning a transition to a more rational economic system increases your life expectancy. You can literally look up graphs.\n
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            [statista.com/…/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041395/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/)
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          +body: "Yes. All of those countries had more civil rights and longer life expectancy after the revolution"
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            Unfortunately in the case of econ 101, you are taught that 2+2=5 most modern econ is neoclassical, which means operating on pre-marx economics and just ignoring marxist critiques of the political economy.\n
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            > and money falls from the sky, and everyone being lazy leads to growth, I’ll ask them to justify.\n
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            Thats a mighty strawman you invented. Workers are going to do the bare minimum to not get fired when it literally doesn’t matter how much they work, their income will be the same. When workers are invested in an organization, they do more work.
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            Literally sharing nazi propaganda from Hearst press lol\n
            \n
            Anyway, capitalism is known for never having famines or economic crises, especially not cyclical ones
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            You literally only have one question, the rest of it is opining.\n
            \n
            You’re assuming a wage labor model and that people working twice as efficiently and at half intensity would result in decreased production.\n
            \n
            1. wage labor models aren’t universal\n
            2. there is no reasoning stated for why production would go down\n
            \n
            You’re assuming people would have to be fired to maintain competitive growth. This is based on the logic of firms competing to capture market share. There isn’t really a rational reason for this to need to happen under systems were the point is to accommodate human need, not to maximize profit.
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          +body: "Do you think the shareholders are active in problem solving? Workers include basically everyone but the shareholders. The tech guys, the executives, the managers."
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          +body: "Read the economy and class structure of german fascism if you want a detailed explanation for “scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds”"
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            > And yes, the only pro-Western nation ever falling into a serious Food-Crisis was… Haiti.\n
            \n
            Read Late Victorian Holocausts if you want to be less wrong.\n
            \n
            > Well, actually I am sharing “Wikipedia Propaganda” but if you want to call Wikipedia Nazi-Propaganda…\n
            \n
            The holodomor was originally fabricated by a hearst press associate at a time when Mr Hearst and the third Reich were openly collaborating on spreading nazi propaganda in the US. The famine was bad but the myth that it was a genocide needs to die as it is literally nazi propaganda and was used as a justification for collaborating with the holocaust in Eastern Europe\n
            \n
            This is in fact the mainstream academic position. You may look to Conquest, Davies, and Wheatcroft, who are genuinely anticommunist historians, for their analysis (they all say it wasn’t a genocide)
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            > Because the fraction of the current world that reads every day and learns every day is extremely small.\n
            \n
            Socialist countries are famous for literacy and education drives\n
            \n
            > Again, like I said before, how many people around you come back from work and want to read technical books and watch courses instead of chilling, or hanging out with friends? I have two friends who are nut jobs like me and work all the time. EVERYONE else is lazy and just wants to have fun after work, and that’s in my circle. This spans over decades in the different jobs and sectors I worked at, in different countries. Do you have a different experience around you? I have trouble convincing people to read for 30 minutes every day.\n
            \n
            I dont think it is reasonable to assume humans will act the same way in all conditions. I know people who just slack off, and its generally because there is no incentive not to do the bare minimum when you are alienated from your labor
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            Better to have them making the decision than capitalists, who make more money for paying employees less\n
            \n
            Also who says half of them have to be fired? Can’t everyone just work less?
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            Your only question is “what am I missing” and the answer is an economics education.\n
            \n
            But to address your “concerns” you’re operating on the mindset of maximizing profit to compete against other firms maximizing profit, which is only a problem under capitalism (until you reach the monopoly stage)
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            > Late Victorian Age\n
            \n
            It is literally a book about western liberal democracies committing genocide, including through intentionally creating famines.\n
            \n
            > Oh, and you claim the Holodomor didn’t happen? Well, let me guess, Stalin also didn’t got 30 million sowiet people killed?\n
            \n
            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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            > Maybe you’ll change your mind one day and understand why the world we live in is the way we live in.\n
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      See you’re still trapped within the logic of capitalism which maximizes profits and expansion over other concerns.\n
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            > But to summarize. You basically want to wreck the current system on the basis that everyone will be diligent, reading all the time, just for the “greater good”, more so than their own profit.\n
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            Thats it interesting scenario, but why are you assuming that there is a significant segment that won’t want to learn, especially when they’re no longer alienated from their labor? And why are you assuming that the total laborers will increase with new technology, when you can retrain existing workers?\n
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            I dont think your scenario is realistic, it kinda reads as really misanthropic
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            No, overthrowing capitalism and beginning a transition to a more rational economic system increases your life expectancy. You can literally look up graphs.\n
            \n
            [statista.com/…/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041395/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/)
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          +body: "Yes. All of those countries had more civil rights and longer life expectancy after the revolution"
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            Unfortunately in the case of econ 101, you are taught that 2+2=5 most modern econ is neoclassical, which means operating on pre-marx economics and just ignoring marxist critiques of the political economy.\n
            \n
            > and money falls from the sky, and everyone being lazy leads to growth, I’ll ask them to justify.\n
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            Thats a mighty strawman you invented. Workers are going to do the bare minimum to not get fired when it literally doesn’t matter how much they work, their income will be the same. When workers are invested in an organization, they do more work.
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          +body: "THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves."
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            Literally sharing nazi propaganda from Hearst press lol\n
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            Anyway, capitalism is known for never having famines or economic crises, especially not cyclical ones
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            You literally only have one question, the rest of it is opining.\n
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            You’re assuming a wage labor model and that people working twice as efficiently and at half intensity would result in decreased production.\n
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            1. wage labor models aren’t universal\n
            2. there is no reasoning stated for why production would go down\n
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            You’re assuming people would have to be fired to maintain competitive growth. This is based on the logic of firms competing to capture market share. There isn’t really a rational reason for this to need to happen under systems were the point is to accommodate human need, not to maximize profit.
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          +body: "Do you think the shareholders are active in problem solving? Workers include basically everyone but the shareholders. The tech guys, the executives, the managers."
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          +body: "Read the economy and class structure of german fascism if you want a detailed explanation for “scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds”"
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            > And yes, the only pro-Western nation ever falling into a serious Food-Crisis was… Haiti.\n
            \n
            Read Late Victorian Holocausts if you want to be less wrong.\n
            \n
            > Well, actually I am sharing “Wikipedia Propaganda” but if you want to call Wikipedia Nazi-Propaganda…\n
            \n
            The holodomor was originally fabricated by a hearst press associate at a time when Mr Hearst and the third Reich were openly collaborating on spreading nazi propaganda in the US. The famine was bad but the myth that it was a genocide needs to die as it is literally nazi propaganda and was used as a justification for collaborating with the holocaust in Eastern Europe\n
            \n
            This is in fact the mainstream academic position. You may look to Conquest, Davies, and Wheatcroft, who are genuinely anticommunist historians, for their analysis (they all say it wasn’t a genocide)
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            > Because the fraction of the current world that reads every day and learns every day is extremely small.\n
            \n
            Socialist countries are famous for literacy and education drives\n
            \n
            > Again, like I said before, how many people around you come back from work and want to read technical books and watch courses instead of chilling, or hanging out with friends? I have two friends who are nut jobs like me and work all the time. EVERYONE else is lazy and just wants to have fun after work, and that’s in my circle. This spans over decades in the different jobs and sectors I worked at, in different countries. Do you have a different experience around you? I have trouble convincing people to read for 30 minutes every day.\n
            \n
            I dont think it is reasonable to assume humans will act the same way in all conditions. I know people who just slack off, and its generally because there is no incentive not to do the bare minimum when you are alienated from your labor
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            Better to have them making the decision than capitalists, who make more money for paying employees less\n
            \n
            Also who says half of them have to be fired? Can’t everyone just work less?
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            Your only question is “what am I missing” and the answer is an economics education.\n
            \n
            But to address your “concerns” you’re operating on the mindset of maximizing profit to compete against other firms maximizing profit, which is only a problem under capitalism (until you reach the monopoly stage)
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            > Late Victorian Age\n
            \n
            It is literally a book about western liberal democracies committing genocide, including through intentionally creating famines.\n
            \n
            > Oh, and you claim the Holodomor didn’t happen? Well, let me guess, Stalin also didn’t got 30 million sowiet people killed?\n
            \n
            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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          +body: "Read “riding the wave” fo learn about how Scandinavian countries are beneficiaries of the imperialist system"
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            I will repeat:\n
            \n
            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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            > Maybe you’ll change your mind one day and understand why the world we live in is the way we live in.\n
            \n
            This from the person who is spouting econ 101 nonsense.
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      See you’re still trapped within the logic of capitalism which maximizes profits and expansion over other concerns.\n
      \n
      > So, assuming we want to keep everyone (including useless people who’d rather have beer instead of reading a book to learn the new stuff), the income of everyone will just go down over time. Eventually, with no one getting fire there won’t be enough money to go around to feed them. What am I missing here?\n
      \n
      These are all massive assumptions
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            > But to summarize. You basically want to wreck the current system on the basis that everyone will be diligent, reading all the time, just for the “greater good”, more so than their own profit.\n
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            You’re just literally describing capitalism and being like, what about this problem under socialism? The consequences are youre not contributing. Do you think everyone is suddenly going to be less motivated when they’re actually able to realize the product of their labor, instead of having a parasite on top taking it?
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            Thats it interesting scenario, but why are you assuming that there is a significant segment that won’t want to learn, especially when they’re no longer alienated from their labor? And why are you assuming that the total laborers will increase with new technology, when you can retrain existing workers?\n
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            No, overthrowing capitalism and beginning a transition to a more rational economic system increases your life expectancy. You can literally look up graphs.\n
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            [statista.com/…/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041395/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/)
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          +body: "Yes. All of those countries had more civil rights and longer life expectancy after the revolution"
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            Unfortunately in the case of econ 101, you are taught that 2+2=5 most modern econ is neoclassical, which means operating on pre-marx economics and just ignoring marxist critiques of the political economy.\n
            \n
            > and money falls from the sky, and everyone being lazy leads to growth, I’ll ask them to justify.\n
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            Thats a mighty strawman you invented. Workers are going to do the bare minimum to not get fired when it literally doesn’t matter how much they work, their income will be the same. When workers are invested in an organization, they do more work.
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          +body: "THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves."
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            Literally sharing nazi propaganda from Hearst press lol\n
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            Anyway, capitalism is known for never having famines or economic crises, especially not cyclical ones
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            You literally only have one question, the rest of it is opining.\n
            \n
            You’re assuming a wage labor model and that people working twice as efficiently and at half intensity would result in decreased production.\n
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            1. wage labor models aren’t universal\n
            2. there is no reasoning stated for why production would go down\n
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            You’re assuming people would have to be fired to maintain competitive growth. This is based on the logic of firms competing to capture market share. There isn’t really a rational reason for this to need to happen under systems were the point is to accommodate human need, not to maximize profit.
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          +body: "Do you think the shareholders are active in problem solving? Workers include basically everyone but the shareholders. The tech guys, the executives, the managers."
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          +body: "Read the economy and class structure of german fascism if you want a detailed explanation for “scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds”"
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            > And yes, the only pro-Western nation ever falling into a serious Food-Crisis was… Haiti.\n
            \n
            Read Late Victorian Holocausts if you want to be less wrong.\n
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            > Well, actually I am sharing “Wikipedia Propaganda” but if you want to call Wikipedia Nazi-Propaganda…\n
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            The holodomor was originally fabricated by a hearst press associate at a time when Mr Hearst and the third Reich were openly collaborating on spreading nazi propaganda in the US. The famine was bad but the myth that it was a genocide needs to die as it is literally nazi propaganda and was used as a justification for collaborating with the holocaust in Eastern Europe\n
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            This is in fact the mainstream academic position. You may look to Conquest, Davies, and Wheatcroft, who are genuinely anticommunist historians, for their analysis (they all say it wasn’t a genocide)
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            > Because the fraction of the current world that reads every day and learns every day is extremely small.\n
            \n
            Socialist countries are famous for literacy and education drives\n
            \n
            > Again, like I said before, how many people around you come back from work and want to read technical books and watch courses instead of chilling, or hanging out with friends? I have two friends who are nut jobs like me and work all the time. EVERYONE else is lazy and just wants to have fun after work, and that’s in my circle. This spans over decades in the different jobs and sectors I worked at, in different countries. Do you have a different experience around you? I have trouble convincing people to read for 30 minutes every day.\n
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            I dont think it is reasonable to assume humans will act the same way in all conditions. I know people who just slack off, and its generally because there is no incentive not to do the bare minimum when you are alienated from your labor
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            Better to have them making the decision than capitalists, who make more money for paying employees less\n
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            Also who says half of them have to be fired? Can’t everyone just work less?
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            Your only question is “what am I missing” and the answer is an economics education.\n
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            But to address your “concerns” you’re operating on the mindset of maximizing profit to compete against other firms maximizing profit, which is only a problem under capitalism (until you reach the monopoly stage)
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            > Late Victorian Age\n
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            It is literally a book about western liberal democracies committing genocide, including through intentionally creating famines.\n
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            > Oh, and you claim the Holodomor didn’t happen? Well, let me guess, Stalin also didn’t got 30 million sowiet people killed?\n
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            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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          +body: "Read “riding the wave” fo learn about how Scandinavian countries are beneficiaries of the imperialist system"
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            I will repeat:\n
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            > Maybe you’ll change your mind one day and understand why the world we live in is the way we live in.\n
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            This from the person who is spouting econ 101 nonsense.
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      See you’re still trapped within the logic of capitalism which maximizes profits and expansion over other concerns.\n
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      > So, assuming we want to keep everyone (including useless people who’d rather have beer instead of reading a book to learn the new stuff), the income of everyone will just go down over time. Eventually, with no one getting fire there won’t be enough money to go around to feed them. What am I missing here?\n
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            > But to summarize. You basically want to wreck the current system on the basis that everyone will be diligent, reading all the time, just for the “greater good”, more so than their own profit.\n
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            No, that’s a strawman. People won’t all be diligent. But they will be more productive in general when they are not alienated from their labor. This has been proven with a bunch of economic data on socialist countries and data on cooperatives even within a capitalist environment.\n
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            > And btw, about the “bare minimum”. No one has a reason to not do the bare minimum as they don’t get fired (consequences). There will always be the lazy guy who does the bare minimum, and everyone will get lazier because they’ll get jealous with zero consequences.\n
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            You’re just literally describing capitalism and being like, what about this problem under socialism? The consequences are youre not contributing. Do you think everyone is suddenly going to be less motivated when they’re actually able to realize the product of their labor, instead of having a parasite on top taking it?
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            Thats it interesting scenario, but why are you assuming that there is a significant segment that won’t want to learn, especially when they’re no longer alienated from their labor? And why are you assuming that the total laborers will increase with new technology, when you can retrain existing workers?\n
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            I dont think your scenario is realistic, it kinda reads as really misanthropic
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            No, overthrowing capitalism and beginning a transition to a more rational economic system increases your life expectancy. You can literally look up graphs.\n
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            [statista.com/…/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041395/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/)
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          +body: "Yes. All of those countries had more civil rights and longer life expectancy after the revolution"
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            Unfortunately in the case of econ 101, you are taught that 2+2=5 most modern econ is neoclassical, which means operating on pre-marx economics and just ignoring marxist critiques of the political economy.\n
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            > and money falls from the sky, and everyone being lazy leads to growth, I’ll ask them to justify.\n
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            Thats a mighty strawman you invented. Workers are going to do the bare minimum to not get fired when it literally doesn’t matter how much they work, their income will be the same. When workers are invested in an organization, they do more work.
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            Literally sharing nazi propaganda from Hearst press lol\n
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            Anyway, capitalism is known for never having famines or economic crises, especially not cyclical ones
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            You literally only have one question, the rest of it is opining.\n
            \n
            You’re assuming a wage labor model and that people working twice as efficiently and at half intensity would result in decreased production.\n
            \n
            1. wage labor models aren’t universal\n
            2. there is no reasoning stated for why production would go down\n
            \n
            You’re assuming people would have to be fired to maintain competitive growth. This is based on the logic of firms competing to capture market share. There isn’t really a rational reason for this to need to happen under systems were the point is to accommodate human need, not to maximize profit.
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          +body: "Do you think the shareholders are active in problem solving? Workers include basically everyone but the shareholders. The tech guys, the executives, the managers."
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          +body: "Read the economy and class structure of german fascism if you want a detailed explanation for “scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds”"
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            > And yes, the only pro-Western nation ever falling into a serious Food-Crisis was… Haiti.\n
            \n
            Read Late Victorian Holocausts if you want to be less wrong.\n
            \n
            > Well, actually I am sharing “Wikipedia Propaganda” but if you want to call Wikipedia Nazi-Propaganda…\n
            \n
            The holodomor was originally fabricated by a hearst press associate at a time when Mr Hearst and the third Reich were openly collaborating on spreading nazi propaganda in the US. The famine was bad but the myth that it was a genocide needs to die as it is literally nazi propaganda and was used as a justification for collaborating with the holocaust in Eastern Europe\n
            \n
            This is in fact the mainstream academic position. You may look to Conquest, Davies, and Wheatcroft, who are genuinely anticommunist historians, for their analysis (they all say it wasn’t a genocide)
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            > Because the fraction of the current world that reads every day and learns every day is extremely small.\n
            \n
            Socialist countries are famous for literacy and education drives\n
            \n
            > Again, like I said before, how many people around you come back from work and want to read technical books and watch courses instead of chilling, or hanging out with friends? I have two friends who are nut jobs like me and work all the time. EVERYONE else is lazy and just wants to have fun after work, and that’s in my circle. This spans over decades in the different jobs and sectors I worked at, in different countries. Do you have a different experience around you? I have trouble convincing people to read for 30 minutes every day.\n
            \n
            I dont think it is reasonable to assume humans will act the same way in all conditions. I know people who just slack off, and its generally because there is no incentive not to do the bare minimum when you are alienated from your labor
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            Better to have them making the decision than capitalists, who make more money for paying employees less\n
            \n
            Also who says half of them have to be fired? Can’t everyone just work less?
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          +body: """
            Your only question is “what am I missing” and the answer is an economics education.\n
            \n
            But to address your “concerns” you’re operating on the mindset of maximizing profit to compete against other firms maximizing profit, which is only a problem under capitalism (until you reach the monopoly stage)
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            > Late Victorian Age\n
            \n
            It is literally a book about western liberal democracies committing genocide, including through intentionally creating famines.\n
            \n
            > Oh, and you claim the Holodomor didn’t happen? Well, let me guess, Stalin also didn’t got 30 million sowiet people killed?\n
            \n
            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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          +body: "Read “riding the wave” fo learn about how Scandinavian countries are beneficiaries of the imperialist system"
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            I will repeat:\n
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            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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            > Maybe you’ll change your mind one day and understand why the world we live in is the way we live in.\n
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            This from the person who is spouting econ 101 nonsense.
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      See you’re still trapped within the logic of capitalism which maximizes profits and expansion over other concerns.\n
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      > So, assuming we want to keep everyone (including useless people who’d rather have beer instead of reading a book to learn the new stuff), the income of everyone will just go down over time. Eventually, with no one getting fire there won’t be enough money to go around to feed them. What am I missing here?\n
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            > But to summarize. You basically want to wreck the current system on the basis that everyone will be diligent, reading all the time, just for the “greater good”, more so than their own profit.\n
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            You’re just literally describing capitalism and being like, what about this problem under socialism? The consequences are youre not contributing. Do you think everyone is suddenly going to be less motivated when they’re actually able to realize the product of their labor, instead of having a parasite on top taking it?
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            Thats it interesting scenario, but why are you assuming that there is a significant segment that won’t want to learn, especially when they’re no longer alienated from their labor? And why are you assuming that the total laborers will increase with new technology, when you can retrain existing workers?\n
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            I dont think your scenario is realistic, it kinda reads as really misanthropic
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            No, overthrowing capitalism and beginning a transition to a more rational economic system increases your life expectancy. You can literally look up graphs.\n
            \n
            [statista.com/…/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041395/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/)
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          +body: "Yes. All of those countries had more civil rights and longer life expectancy after the revolution"
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            See you’re still trapped within the logic of capitalism which maximizes profits and expansion over other concerns.\n
            \n
            > So, assuming we want to keep everyone (including useless people who’d rather have beer instead of reading a book to learn the new stuff), the income of everyone will just go down over time. Eventually, with no one getting fire there won’t be enough money to go around to feed them. What am I missing here?\n
            \n
            These are all massive assumptions
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          +body: "THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves."
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            Literally sharing nazi propaganda from Hearst press lol\n
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            Anyway, capitalism is known for never having famines or economic crises, especially not cyclical ones
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            You literally only have one question, the rest of it is opining.\n
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            You’re assuming a wage labor model and that people working twice as efficiently and at half intensity would result in decreased production.\n
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            1. wage labor models aren’t universal\n
            2. there is no reasoning stated for why production would go down\n
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            You’re assuming people would have to be fired to maintain competitive growth. This is based on the logic of firms competing to capture market share. There isn’t really a rational reason for this to need to happen under systems were the point is to accommodate human need, not to maximize profit.
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          +body: "Do you think the shareholders are active in problem solving? Workers include basically everyone but the shareholders. The tech guys, the executives, the managers."
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          +body: "Read the economy and class structure of german fascism if you want a detailed explanation for “scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds”"
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          +body: """
            > And yes, the only pro-Western nation ever falling into a serious Food-Crisis was… Haiti.\n
            \n
            Read Late Victorian Holocausts if you want to be less wrong.\n
            \n
            > Well, actually I am sharing “Wikipedia Propaganda” but if you want to call Wikipedia Nazi-Propaganda…\n
            \n
            The holodomor was originally fabricated by a hearst press associate at a time when Mr Hearst and the third Reich were openly collaborating on spreading nazi propaganda in the US. The famine was bad but the myth that it was a genocide needs to die as it is literally nazi propaganda and was used as a justification for collaborating with the holocaust in Eastern Europe\n
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            This is in fact the mainstream academic position. You may look to Conquest, Davies, and Wheatcroft, who are genuinely anticommunist historians, for their analysis (they all say it wasn’t a genocide)
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            > Because the fraction of the current world that reads every day and learns every day is extremely small.\n
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            Socialist countries are famous for literacy and education drives\n
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            > Again, like I said before, how many people around you come back from work and want to read technical books and watch courses instead of chilling, or hanging out with friends? I have two friends who are nut jobs like me and work all the time. EVERYONE else is lazy and just wants to have fun after work, and that’s in my circle. This spans over decades in the different jobs and sectors I worked at, in different countries. Do you have a different experience around you? I have trouble convincing people to read for 30 minutes every day.\n
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            Better to have them making the decision than capitalists, who make more money for paying employees less\n
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            Also who says half of them have to be fired? Can’t everyone just work less?
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            Your only question is “what am I missing” and the answer is an economics education.\n
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            But to address your “concerns” you’re operating on the mindset of maximizing profit to compete against other firms maximizing profit, which is only a problem under capitalism (until you reach the monopoly stage)
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            > Late Victorian Age\n
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            It is literally a book about western liberal democracies committing genocide, including through intentionally creating famines.\n
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            > Oh, and you claim the Holodomor didn’t happen? Well, let me guess, Stalin also didn’t got 30 million sowiet people killed?\n
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            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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          +body: "Read “riding the wave” fo learn about how Scandinavian countries are beneficiaries of the imperialist system"
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            I will repeat:\n
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            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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            > Maybe you’ll change your mind one day and understand why the world we live in is the way we live in.\n
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            This from the person who is spouting econ 101 nonsense.
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      Unfortunately in the case of econ 101, you are taught that 2+2=5 most modern econ is neoclassical, which means operating on pre-marx economics and just ignoring marxist critiques of the political economy.\n
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      > and money falls from the sky, and everyone being lazy leads to growth, I’ll ask them to justify.\n
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            > But to summarize. You basically want to wreck the current system on the basis that everyone will be diligent, reading all the time, just for the “greater good”, more so than their own profit.\n
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            No, that’s a strawman. People won’t all be diligent. But they will be more productive in general when they are not alienated from their labor. This has been proven with a bunch of economic data on socialist countries and data on cooperatives even within a capitalist environment.\n
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            > And btw, about the “bare minimum”. No one has a reason to not do the bare minimum as they don’t get fired (consequences). There will always be the lazy guy who does the bare minimum, and everyone will get lazier because they’ll get jealous with zero consequences.\n
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            You’re just literally describing capitalism and being like, what about this problem under socialism? The consequences are youre not contributing. Do you think everyone is suddenly going to be less motivated when they’re actually able to realize the product of their labor, instead of having a parasite on top taking it?
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            Thats it interesting scenario, but why are you assuming that there is a significant segment that won’t want to learn, especially when they’re no longer alienated from their labor? And why are you assuming that the total laborers will increase with new technology, when you can retrain existing workers?\n
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            I dont think your scenario is realistic, it kinda reads as really misanthropic
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            No, overthrowing capitalism and beginning a transition to a more rational economic system increases your life expectancy. You can literally look up graphs.\n
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            [statista.com/…/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041395/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/)
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            See you’re still trapped within the logic of capitalism which maximizes profits and expansion over other concerns.\n
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            > So, assuming we want to keep everyone (including useless people who’d rather have beer instead of reading a book to learn the new stuff), the income of everyone will just go down over time. Eventually, with no one getting fire there won’t be enough money to go around to feed them. What am I missing here?\n
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            These are all massive assumptions
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          +body: "THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves."
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            Literally sharing nazi propaganda from Hearst press lol\n
            \n
            Anyway, capitalism is known for never having famines or economic crises, especially not cyclical ones
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            You literally only have one question, the rest of it is opining.\n
            \n
            You’re assuming a wage labor model and that people working twice as efficiently and at half intensity would result in decreased production.\n
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            1. wage labor models aren’t universal\n
            2. there is no reasoning stated for why production would go down\n
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            You’re assuming people would have to be fired to maintain competitive growth. This is based on the logic of firms competing to capture market share. There isn’t really a rational reason for this to need to happen under systems were the point is to accommodate human need, not to maximize profit.
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          +body: "Do you think the shareholders are active in problem solving? Workers include basically everyone but the shareholders. The tech guys, the executives, the managers."
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          +body: "Read the economy and class structure of german fascism if you want a detailed explanation for “scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds”"
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          +body: """
            > And yes, the only pro-Western nation ever falling into a serious Food-Crisis was… Haiti.\n
            \n
            Read Late Victorian Holocausts if you want to be less wrong.\n
            \n
            > Well, actually I am sharing “Wikipedia Propaganda” but if you want to call Wikipedia Nazi-Propaganda…\n
            \n
            The holodomor was originally fabricated by a hearst press associate at a time when Mr Hearst and the third Reich were openly collaborating on spreading nazi propaganda in the US. The famine was bad but the myth that it was a genocide needs to die as it is literally nazi propaganda and was used as a justification for collaborating with the holocaust in Eastern Europe\n
            \n
            This is in fact the mainstream academic position. You may look to Conquest, Davies, and Wheatcroft, who are genuinely anticommunist historians, for their analysis (they all say it wasn’t a genocide)
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            > Because the fraction of the current world that reads every day and learns every day is extremely small.\n
            \n
            Socialist countries are famous for literacy and education drives\n
            \n
            > Again, like I said before, how many people around you come back from work and want to read technical books and watch courses instead of chilling, or hanging out with friends? I have two friends who are nut jobs like me and work all the time. EVERYONE else is lazy and just wants to have fun after work, and that’s in my circle. This spans over decades in the different jobs and sectors I worked at, in different countries. Do you have a different experience around you? I have trouble convincing people to read for 30 minutes every day.\n
            \n
            I dont think it is reasonable to assume humans will act the same way in all conditions. I know people who just slack off, and its generally because there is no incentive not to do the bare minimum when you are alienated from your labor
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            Better to have them making the decision than capitalists, who make more money for paying employees less\n
            \n
            Also who says half of them have to be fired? Can’t everyone just work less?
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            Your only question is “what am I missing” and the answer is an economics education.\n
            \n
            But to address your “concerns” you’re operating on the mindset of maximizing profit to compete against other firms maximizing profit, which is only a problem under capitalism (until you reach the monopoly stage)
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            > Late Victorian Age\n
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            It is literally a book about western liberal democracies committing genocide, including through intentionally creating famines.\n
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            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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            > Maybe you’ll change your mind one day and understand why the world we live in is the way we live in.\n
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            This from the person who is spouting econ 101 nonsense.
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      Unfortunately in the case of econ 101, you are taught that 2+2=5 most modern econ is neoclassical, which means operating on pre-marx economics and just ignoring marxist critiques of the political economy.\n
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            > But to summarize. You basically want to wreck the current system on the basis that everyone will be diligent, reading all the time, just for the “greater good”, more so than their own profit.\n
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            No, that’s a strawman. People won’t all be diligent. But they will be more productive in general when they are not alienated from their labor. This has been proven with a bunch of economic data on socialist countries and data on cooperatives even within a capitalist environment.\n
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            You’re just literally describing capitalism and being like, what about this problem under socialism? The consequences are youre not contributing. Do you think everyone is suddenly going to be less motivated when they’re actually able to realize the product of their labor, instead of having a parasite on top taking it?
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            Thats it interesting scenario, but why are you assuming that there is a significant segment that won’t want to learn, especially when they’re no longer alienated from their labor? And why are you assuming that the total laborers will increase with new technology, when you can retrain existing workers?\n
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            I dont think your scenario is realistic, it kinda reads as really misanthropic
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            No, overthrowing capitalism and beginning a transition to a more rational economic system increases your life expectancy. You can literally look up graphs.\n
            \n
            [statista.com/…/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041395/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/)
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          +body: "Yes. All of those countries had more civil rights and longer life expectancy after the revolution"
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            See you’re still trapped within the logic of capitalism which maximizes profits and expansion over other concerns.\n
            \n
            > So, assuming we want to keep everyone (including useless people who’d rather have beer instead of reading a book to learn the new stuff), the income of everyone will just go down over time. Eventually, with no one getting fire there won’t be enough money to go around to feed them. What am I missing here?\n
            \n
            These are all massive assumptions
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          +body: "THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves."
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            Literally sharing nazi propaganda from Hearst press lol\n
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            Anyway, capitalism is known for never having famines or economic crises, especially not cyclical ones
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            You literally only have one question, the rest of it is opining.\n
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            You’re assuming a wage labor model and that people working twice as efficiently and at half intensity would result in decreased production.\n
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            1. wage labor models aren’t universal\n
            2. there is no reasoning stated for why production would go down\n
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            You’re assuming people would have to be fired to maintain competitive growth. This is based on the logic of firms competing to capture market share. There isn’t really a rational reason for this to need to happen under systems were the point is to accommodate human need, not to maximize profit.
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          +body: "Do you think the shareholders are active in problem solving? Workers include basically everyone but the shareholders. The tech guys, the executives, the managers."
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          +body: "Read the economy and class structure of german fascism if you want a detailed explanation for “scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds”"
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          +body: """
            > And yes, the only pro-Western nation ever falling into a serious Food-Crisis was… Haiti.\n
            \n
            Read Late Victorian Holocausts if you want to be less wrong.\n
            \n
            > Well, actually I am sharing “Wikipedia Propaganda” but if you want to call Wikipedia Nazi-Propaganda…\n
            \n
            The holodomor was originally fabricated by a hearst press associate at a time when Mr Hearst and the third Reich were openly collaborating on spreading nazi propaganda in the US. The famine was bad but the myth that it was a genocide needs to die as it is literally nazi propaganda and was used as a justification for collaborating with the holocaust in Eastern Europe\n
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            This is in fact the mainstream academic position. You may look to Conquest, Davies, and Wheatcroft, who are genuinely anticommunist historians, for their analysis (they all say it wasn’t a genocide)
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            > Because the fraction of the current world that reads every day and learns every day is extremely small.\n
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            Socialist countries are famous for literacy and education drives\n
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            > Again, like I said before, how many people around you come back from work and want to read technical books and watch courses instead of chilling, or hanging out with friends? I have two friends who are nut jobs like me and work all the time. EVERYONE else is lazy and just wants to have fun after work, and that’s in my circle. This spans over decades in the different jobs and sectors I worked at, in different countries. Do you have a different experience around you? I have trouble convincing people to read for 30 minutes every day.\n
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            Better to have them making the decision than capitalists, who make more money for paying employees less\n
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            Also who says half of them have to be fired? Can’t everyone just work less?
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            Your only question is “what am I missing” and the answer is an economics education.\n
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            But to address your “concerns” you’re operating on the mindset of maximizing profit to compete against other firms maximizing profit, which is only a problem under capitalism (until you reach the monopoly stage)
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            > Late Victorian Age\n
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            It is literally a book about western liberal democracies committing genocide, including through intentionally creating famines.\n
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            > Oh, and you claim the Holodomor didn’t happen? Well, let me guess, Stalin also didn’t got 30 million sowiet people killed?\n
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            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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          +body: "Read “riding the wave” fo learn about how Scandinavian countries are beneficiaries of the imperialist system"
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            I will repeat:\n
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            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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            > Maybe you’ll change your mind one day and understand why the world we live in is the way we live in.\n
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            This from the person who is spouting econ 101 nonsense.
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      Unfortunately in the case of econ 101, you are taught that 2+2=5 most modern econ is neoclassical, which means operating on pre-marx economics and just ignoring marxist critiques of the political economy.\n
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      > and money falls from the sky, and everyone being lazy leads to growth, I’ll ask them to justify.\n
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            > But to summarize. You basically want to wreck the current system on the basis that everyone will be diligent, reading all the time, just for the “greater good”, more so than their own profit.\n
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            No, that’s a strawman. People won’t all be diligent. But they will be more productive in general when they are not alienated from their labor. This has been proven with a bunch of economic data on socialist countries and data on cooperatives even within a capitalist environment.\n
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            > And btw, about the “bare minimum”. No one has a reason to not do the bare minimum as they don’t get fired (consequences). There will always be the lazy guy who does the bare minimum, and everyone will get lazier because they’ll get jealous with zero consequences.\n
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            You’re just literally describing capitalism and being like, what about this problem under socialism? The consequences are youre not contributing. Do you think everyone is suddenly going to be less motivated when they’re actually able to realize the product of their labor, instead of having a parasite on top taking it?
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            Thats it interesting scenario, but why are you assuming that there is a significant segment that won’t want to learn, especially when they’re no longer alienated from their labor? And why are you assuming that the total laborers will increase with new technology, when you can retrain existing workers?\n
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            I dont think your scenario is realistic, it kinda reads as really misanthropic
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            No, overthrowing capitalism and beginning a transition to a more rational economic system increases your life expectancy. You can literally look up graphs.\n
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            [statista.com/…/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041395/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/)
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            See you’re still trapped within the logic of capitalism which maximizes profits and expansion over other concerns.\n
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            > So, assuming we want to keep everyone (including useless people who’d rather have beer instead of reading a book to learn the new stuff), the income of everyone will just go down over time. Eventually, with no one getting fire there won’t be enough money to go around to feed them. What am I missing here?\n
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            These are all massive assumptions
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          +body: "THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves."
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            Literally sharing nazi propaganda from Hearst press lol\n
            \n
            Anyway, capitalism is known for never having famines or economic crises, especially not cyclical ones
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            You literally only have one question, the rest of it is opining.\n
            \n
            You’re assuming a wage labor model and that people working twice as efficiently and at half intensity would result in decreased production.\n
            \n
            1. wage labor models aren’t universal\n
            2. there is no reasoning stated for why production would go down\n
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            You’re assuming people would have to be fired to maintain competitive growth. This is based on the logic of firms competing to capture market share. There isn’t really a rational reason for this to need to happen under systems were the point is to accommodate human need, not to maximize profit.
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          +body: "Do you think the shareholders are active in problem solving? Workers include basically everyone but the shareholders. The tech guys, the executives, the managers."
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          +body: "Read the economy and class structure of german fascism if you want a detailed explanation for “scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds”"
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          +body: """
            > And yes, the only pro-Western nation ever falling into a serious Food-Crisis was… Haiti.\n
            \n
            Read Late Victorian Holocausts if you want to be less wrong.\n
            \n
            > Well, actually I am sharing “Wikipedia Propaganda” but if you want to call Wikipedia Nazi-Propaganda…\n
            \n
            The holodomor was originally fabricated by a hearst press associate at a time when Mr Hearst and the third Reich were openly collaborating on spreading nazi propaganda in the US. The famine was bad but the myth that it was a genocide needs to die as it is literally nazi propaganda and was used as a justification for collaborating with the holocaust in Eastern Europe\n
            \n
            This is in fact the mainstream academic position. You may look to Conquest, Davies, and Wheatcroft, who are genuinely anticommunist historians, for their analysis (they all say it wasn’t a genocide)
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            > Because the fraction of the current world that reads every day and learns every day is extremely small.\n
            \n
            Socialist countries are famous for literacy and education drives\n
            \n
            > Again, like I said before, how many people around you come back from work and want to read technical books and watch courses instead of chilling, or hanging out with friends? I have two friends who are nut jobs like me and work all the time. EVERYONE else is lazy and just wants to have fun after work, and that’s in my circle. This spans over decades in the different jobs and sectors I worked at, in different countries. Do you have a different experience around you? I have trouble convincing people to read for 30 minutes every day.\n
            \n
            I dont think it is reasonable to assume humans will act the same way in all conditions. I know people who just slack off, and its generally because there is no incentive not to do the bare minimum when you are alienated from your labor
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            Better to have them making the decision than capitalists, who make more money for paying employees less\n
            \n
            Also who says half of them have to be fired? Can’t everyone just work less?
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            Your only question is “what am I missing” and the answer is an economics education.\n
            \n
            But to address your “concerns” you’re operating on the mindset of maximizing profit to compete against other firms maximizing profit, which is only a problem under capitalism (until you reach the monopoly stage)
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            > Late Victorian Age\n
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            It is literally a book about western liberal democracies committing genocide, including through intentionally creating famines.\n
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            > Maybe you’ll change your mind one day and understand why the world we live in is the way we live in.\n
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            This from the person who is spouting econ 101 nonsense.
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      Unfortunately in the case of econ 101, you are taught that 2+2=5 most modern econ is neoclassical, which means operating on pre-marx economics and just ignoring marxist critiques of the political economy.\n
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            > But to summarize. You basically want to wreck the current system on the basis that everyone will be diligent, reading all the time, just for the “greater good”, more so than their own profit.\n
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            No, that’s a strawman. People won’t all be diligent. But they will be more productive in general when they are not alienated from their labor. This has been proven with a bunch of economic data on socialist countries and data on cooperatives even within a capitalist environment.\n
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            > And btw, about the “bare minimum”. No one has a reason to not do the bare minimum as they don’t get fired (consequences). There will always be the lazy guy who does the bare minimum, and everyone will get lazier because they’ll get jealous with zero consequences.\n
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            You’re just literally describing capitalism and being like, what about this problem under socialism? The consequences are youre not contributing. Do you think everyone is suddenly going to be less motivated when they’re actually able to realize the product of their labor, instead of having a parasite on top taking it?
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            Thats it interesting scenario, but why are you assuming that there is a significant segment that won’t want to learn, especially when they’re no longer alienated from their labor? And why are you assuming that the total laborers will increase with new technology, when you can retrain existing workers?\n
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            I dont think your scenario is realistic, it kinda reads as really misanthropic
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            No, overthrowing capitalism and beginning a transition to a more rational economic system increases your life expectancy. You can literally look up graphs.\n
            \n
            [statista.com/…/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041395/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/)
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          +body: "Yes. All of those countries had more civil rights and longer life expectancy after the revolution"
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            See you’re still trapped within the logic of capitalism which maximizes profits and expansion over other concerns.\n
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            > So, assuming we want to keep everyone (including useless people who’d rather have beer instead of reading a book to learn the new stuff), the income of everyone will just go down over time. Eventually, with no one getting fire there won’t be enough money to go around to feed them. What am I missing here?\n
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            These are all massive assumptions
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          +body: "THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves."
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            Literally sharing nazi propaganda from Hearst press lol\n
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            Anyway, capitalism is known for never having famines or economic crises, especially not cyclical ones
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            You literally only have one question, the rest of it is opining.\n
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            You’re assuming a wage labor model and that people working twice as efficiently and at half intensity would result in decreased production.\n
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            1. wage labor models aren’t universal\n
            2. there is no reasoning stated for why production would go down\n
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            You’re assuming people would have to be fired to maintain competitive growth. This is based on the logic of firms competing to capture market share. There isn’t really a rational reason for this to need to happen under systems were the point is to accommodate human need, not to maximize profit.
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          +body: "Do you think the shareholders are active in problem solving? Workers include basically everyone but the shareholders. The tech guys, the executives, the managers."
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          +body: "Read the economy and class structure of german fascism if you want a detailed explanation for “scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds”"
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            > And yes, the only pro-Western nation ever falling into a serious Food-Crisis was… Haiti.\n
            \n
            Read Late Victorian Holocausts if you want to be less wrong.\n
            \n
            > Well, actually I am sharing “Wikipedia Propaganda” but if you want to call Wikipedia Nazi-Propaganda…\n
            \n
            The holodomor was originally fabricated by a hearst press associate at a time when Mr Hearst and the third Reich were openly collaborating on spreading nazi propaganda in the US. The famine was bad but the myth that it was a genocide needs to die as it is literally nazi propaganda and was used as a justification for collaborating with the holocaust in Eastern Europe\n
            \n
            This is in fact the mainstream academic position. You may look to Conquest, Davies, and Wheatcroft, who are genuinely anticommunist historians, for their analysis (they all say it wasn’t a genocide)
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            > Because the fraction of the current world that reads every day and learns every day is extremely small.\n
            \n
            Socialist countries are famous for literacy and education drives\n
            \n
            > Again, like I said before, how many people around you come back from work and want to read technical books and watch courses instead of chilling, or hanging out with friends? I have two friends who are nut jobs like me and work all the time. EVERYONE else is lazy and just wants to have fun after work, and that’s in my circle. This spans over decades in the different jobs and sectors I worked at, in different countries. Do you have a different experience around you? I have trouble convincing people to read for 30 minutes every day.\n
            \n
            I dont think it is reasonable to assume humans will act the same way in all conditions. I know people who just slack off, and its generally because there is no incentive not to do the bare minimum when you are alienated from your labor
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            Better to have them making the decision than capitalists, who make more money for paying employees less\n
            \n
            Also who says half of them have to be fired? Can’t everyone just work less?
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            Your only question is “what am I missing” and the answer is an economics education.\n
            \n
            But to address your “concerns” you’re operating on the mindset of maximizing profit to compete against other firms maximizing profit, which is only a problem under capitalism (until you reach the monopoly stage)
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            > Late Victorian Age\n
            \n
            It is literally a book about western liberal democracies committing genocide, including through intentionally creating famines.\n
            \n
            > Oh, and you claim the Holodomor didn’t happen? Well, let me guess, Stalin also didn’t got 30 million sowiet people killed?\n
            \n
            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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          +body: "Read “riding the wave” fo learn about how Scandinavian countries are beneficiaries of the imperialist system"
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          +body: """
            I will repeat:\n
            \n
            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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          +body: """
            > Maybe you’ll change your mind one day and understand why the world we live in is the way we live in.\n
            \n
            This from the person who is spouting econ 101 nonsense.
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      > and money falls from the sky, and everyone being lazy leads to growth, I’ll ask them to justify.\n
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            > But to summarize. You basically want to wreck the current system on the basis that everyone will be diligent, reading all the time, just for the “greater good”, more so than their own profit.\n
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            Thats it interesting scenario, but why are you assuming that there is a significant segment that won’t want to learn, especially when they’re no longer alienated from their labor? And why are you assuming that the total laborers will increase with new technology, when you can retrain existing workers?\n
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            No, overthrowing capitalism and beginning a transition to a more rational economic system increases your life expectancy. You can literally look up graphs.\n
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            [statista.com/…/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041395/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/)
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          +body: "Oof, too real"
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          +body: "Yes. All of those countries had more civil rights and longer life expectancy after the revolution"
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            See you’re still trapped within the logic of capitalism which maximizes profits and expansion over other concerns.\n
            \n
            > So, assuming we want to keep everyone (including useless people who’d rather have beer instead of reading a book to learn the new stuff), the income of everyone will just go down over time. Eventually, with no one getting fire there won’t be enough money to go around to feed them. What am I missing here?\n
            \n
            These are all massive assumptions
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          +body: "THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves."
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            Literally sharing nazi propaganda from Hearst press lol\n
            \n
            Anyway, capitalism is known for never having famines or economic crises, especially not cyclical ones
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            You literally only have one question, the rest of it is opining.\n
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            You’re assuming a wage labor model and that people working twice as efficiently and at half intensity would result in decreased production.\n
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            1. wage labor models aren’t universal\n
            2. there is no reasoning stated for why production would go down\n
            \n
            You’re assuming people would have to be fired to maintain competitive growth. This is based on the logic of firms competing to capture market share. There isn’t really a rational reason for this to need to happen under systems were the point is to accommodate human need, not to maximize profit.
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          +body: "Do you think the shareholders are active in problem solving? Workers include basically everyone but the shareholders. The tech guys, the executives, the managers."
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          +body: "Read the economy and class structure of german fascism if you want a detailed explanation for “scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds”"
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          +body: """
            > And yes, the only pro-Western nation ever falling into a serious Food-Crisis was… Haiti.\n
            \n
            Read Late Victorian Holocausts if you want to be less wrong.\n
            \n
            > Well, actually I am sharing “Wikipedia Propaganda” but if you want to call Wikipedia Nazi-Propaganda…\n
            \n
            The holodomor was originally fabricated by a hearst press associate at a time when Mr Hearst and the third Reich were openly collaborating on spreading nazi propaganda in the US. The famine was bad but the myth that it was a genocide needs to die as it is literally nazi propaganda and was used as a justification for collaborating with the holocaust in Eastern Europe\n
            \n
            This is in fact the mainstream academic position. You may look to Conquest, Davies, and Wheatcroft, who are genuinely anticommunist historians, for their analysis (they all say it wasn’t a genocide)
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          +body: """
            > Because the fraction of the current world that reads every day and learns every day is extremely small.\n
            \n
            Socialist countries are famous for literacy and education drives\n
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            Better to have them making the decision than capitalists, who make more money for paying employees less\n
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            Also who says half of them have to be fired? Can’t everyone just work less?
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            Your only question is “what am I missing” and the answer is an economics education.\n
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            But to address your “concerns” you’re operating on the mindset of maximizing profit to compete against other firms maximizing profit, which is only a problem under capitalism (until you reach the monopoly stage)
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            > Late Victorian Age\n
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            It is literally a book about western liberal democracies committing genocide, including through intentionally creating famines.\n
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            > Oh, and you claim the Holodomor didn’t happen? Well, let me guess, Stalin also didn’t got 30 million sowiet people killed?\n
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            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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          +body: "Read “riding the wave” fo learn about how Scandinavian countries are beneficiaries of the imperialist system"
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            I will repeat:\n
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            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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            > Maybe you’ll change your mind one day and understand why the world we live in is the way we live in.\n
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            This from the person who is spouting econ 101 nonsense.
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      Unfortunately in the case of econ 101, you are taught that 2+2=5 most modern econ is neoclassical, which means operating on pre-marx economics and just ignoring marxist critiques of the political economy.\n
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      > and money falls from the sky, and everyone being lazy leads to growth, I’ll ask them to justify.\n
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            > But to summarize. You basically want to wreck the current system on the basis that everyone will be diligent, reading all the time, just for the “greater good”, more so than their own profit.\n
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            No, that’s a strawman. People won’t all be diligent. But they will be more productive in general when they are not alienated from their labor. This has been proven with a bunch of economic data on socialist countries and data on cooperatives even within a capitalist environment.\n
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            > And btw, about the “bare minimum”. No one has a reason to not do the bare minimum as they don’t get fired (consequences). There will always be the lazy guy who does the bare minimum, and everyone will get lazier because they’ll get jealous with zero consequences.\n
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            You’re just literally describing capitalism and being like, what about this problem under socialism? The consequences are youre not contributing. Do you think everyone is suddenly going to be less motivated when they’re actually able to realize the product of their labor, instead of having a parasite on top taking it?
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            Thats it interesting scenario, but why are you assuming that there is a significant segment that won’t want to learn, especially when they’re no longer alienated from their labor? And why are you assuming that the total laborers will increase with new technology, when you can retrain existing workers?\n
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            I dont think your scenario is realistic, it kinda reads as really misanthropic
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            No, overthrowing capitalism and beginning a transition to a more rational economic system increases your life expectancy. You can literally look up graphs.\n
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            [statista.com/…/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041395/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/)
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            See you’re still trapped within the logic of capitalism which maximizes profits and expansion over other concerns.\n
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            > So, assuming we want to keep everyone (including useless people who’d rather have beer instead of reading a book to learn the new stuff), the income of everyone will just go down over time. Eventually, with no one getting fire there won’t be enough money to go around to feed them. What am I missing here?\n
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            These are all massive assumptions
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            Unfortunately in the case of econ 101, you are taught that 2+2=5 most modern econ is neoclassical, which means operating on pre-marx economics and just ignoring marxist critiques of the political economy.\n
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            Thats a mighty strawman you invented. Workers are going to do the bare minimum to not get fired when it literally doesn’t matter how much they work, their income will be the same. When workers are invested in an organization, they do more work.
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            Literally sharing nazi propaganda from Hearst press lol\n
            \n
            Anyway, capitalism is known for never having famines or economic crises, especially not cyclical ones
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            You literally only have one question, the rest of it is opining.\n
            \n
            You’re assuming a wage labor model and that people working twice as efficiently and at half intensity would result in decreased production.\n
            \n
            1. wage labor models aren’t universal\n
            2. there is no reasoning stated for why production would go down\n
            \n
            You’re assuming people would have to be fired to maintain competitive growth. This is based on the logic of firms competing to capture market share. There isn’t really a rational reason for this to need to happen under systems were the point is to accommodate human need, not to maximize profit.
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          +body: "Do you think the shareholders are active in problem solving? Workers include basically everyone but the shareholders. The tech guys, the executives, the managers."
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          +body: "Read the economy and class structure of german fascism if you want a detailed explanation for “scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds”"
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            > And yes, the only pro-Western nation ever falling into a serious Food-Crisis was… Haiti.\n
            \n
            Read Late Victorian Holocausts if you want to be less wrong.\n
            \n
            > Well, actually I am sharing “Wikipedia Propaganda” but if you want to call Wikipedia Nazi-Propaganda…\n
            \n
            The holodomor was originally fabricated by a hearst press associate at a time when Mr Hearst and the third Reich were openly collaborating on spreading nazi propaganda in the US. The famine was bad but the myth that it was a genocide needs to die as it is literally nazi propaganda and was used as a justification for collaborating with the holocaust in Eastern Europe\n
            \n
            This is in fact the mainstream academic position. You may look to Conquest, Davies, and Wheatcroft, who are genuinely anticommunist historians, for their analysis (they all say it wasn’t a genocide)
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            > Because the fraction of the current world that reads every day and learns every day is extremely small.\n
            \n
            Socialist countries are famous for literacy and education drives\n
            \n
            > Again, like I said before, how many people around you come back from work and want to read technical books and watch courses instead of chilling, or hanging out with friends? I have two friends who are nut jobs like me and work all the time. EVERYONE else is lazy and just wants to have fun after work, and that’s in my circle. This spans over decades in the different jobs and sectors I worked at, in different countries. Do you have a different experience around you? I have trouble convincing people to read for 30 minutes every day.\n
            \n
            I dont think it is reasonable to assume humans will act the same way in all conditions. I know people who just slack off, and its generally because there is no incentive not to do the bare minimum when you are alienated from your labor
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            Better to have them making the decision than capitalists, who make more money for paying employees less\n
            \n
            Also who says half of them have to be fired? Can’t everyone just work less?
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            Your only question is “what am I missing” and the answer is an economics education.\n
            \n
            But to address your “concerns” you’re operating on the mindset of maximizing profit to compete against other firms maximizing profit, which is only a problem under capitalism (until you reach the monopoly stage)
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            > Late Victorian Age\n
            \n
            It is literally a book about western liberal democracies committing genocide, including through intentionally creating famines.\n
            \n
            > Oh, and you claim the Holodomor didn’t happen? Well, let me guess, Stalin also didn’t got 30 million sowiet people killed?\n
            \n
            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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            > Maybe you’ll change your mind one day and understand why the world we live in is the way we live in.\n
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            This from the person who is spouting econ 101 nonsense.
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            > But to summarize. You basically want to wreck the current system on the basis that everyone will be diligent, reading all the time, just for the “greater good”, more so than their own profit.\n
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            No, that’s a strawman. People won’t all be diligent. But they will be more productive in general when they are not alienated from their labor. This has been proven with a bunch of economic data on socialist countries and data on cooperatives even within a capitalist environment.\n
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            You’re just literally describing capitalism and being like, what about this problem under socialism? The consequences are youre not contributing. Do you think everyone is suddenly going to be less motivated when they’re actually able to realize the product of their labor, instead of having a parasite on top taking it?
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            Thats it interesting scenario, but why are you assuming that there is a significant segment that won’t want to learn, especially when they’re no longer alienated from their labor? And why are you assuming that the total laborers will increase with new technology, when you can retrain existing workers?\n
            \n
            I dont think your scenario is realistic, it kinda reads as really misanthropic
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            No, overthrowing capitalism and beginning a transition to a more rational economic system increases your life expectancy. You can literally look up graphs.\n
            \n
            [statista.com/…/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041395/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/)
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          +body: "Yes. All of those countries had more civil rights and longer life expectancy after the revolution"
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            See you’re still trapped within the logic of capitalism which maximizes profits and expansion over other concerns.\n
            \n
            > So, assuming we want to keep everyone (including useless people who’d rather have beer instead of reading a book to learn the new stuff), the income of everyone will just go down over time. Eventually, with no one getting fire there won’t be enough money to go around to feed them. What am I missing here?\n
            \n
            These are all massive assumptions
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            Unfortunately in the case of econ 101, you are taught that 2+2=5 most modern econ is neoclassical, which means operating on pre-marx economics and just ignoring marxist critiques of the political economy.\n
            \n
            > and money falls from the sky, and everyone being lazy leads to growth, I’ll ask them to justify.\n
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            Thats a mighty strawman you invented. Workers are going to do the bare minimum to not get fired when it literally doesn’t matter how much they work, their income will be the same. When workers are invested in an organization, they do more work.
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            Literally sharing nazi propaganda from Hearst press lol\n
            \n
            Anyway, capitalism is known for never having famines or economic crises, especially not cyclical ones
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            You literally only have one question, the rest of it is opining.\n
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            You’re assuming a wage labor model and that people working twice as efficiently and at half intensity would result in decreased production.\n
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            1. wage labor models aren’t universal\n
            2. there is no reasoning stated for why production would go down\n
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            You’re assuming people would have to be fired to maintain competitive growth. This is based on the logic of firms competing to capture market share. There isn’t really a rational reason for this to need to happen under systems were the point is to accommodate human need, not to maximize profit.
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          +body: "Do you think the shareholders are active in problem solving? Workers include basically everyone but the shareholders. The tech guys, the executives, the managers."
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          +body: "Read the economy and class structure of german fascism if you want a detailed explanation for “scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds”"
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            > And yes, the only pro-Western nation ever falling into a serious Food-Crisis was… Haiti.\n
            \n
            Read Late Victorian Holocausts if you want to be less wrong.\n
            \n
            > Well, actually I am sharing “Wikipedia Propaganda” but if you want to call Wikipedia Nazi-Propaganda…\n
            \n
            The holodomor was originally fabricated by a hearst press associate at a time when Mr Hearst and the third Reich were openly collaborating on spreading nazi propaganda in the US. The famine was bad but the myth that it was a genocide needs to die as it is literally nazi propaganda and was used as a justification for collaborating with the holocaust in Eastern Europe\n
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            This is in fact the mainstream academic position. You may look to Conquest, Davies, and Wheatcroft, who are genuinely anticommunist historians, for their analysis (they all say it wasn’t a genocide)
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            > Because the fraction of the current world that reads every day and learns every day is extremely small.\n
            \n
            Socialist countries are famous for literacy and education drives\n
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            > Again, like I said before, how many people around you come back from work and want to read technical books and watch courses instead of chilling, or hanging out with friends? I have two friends who are nut jobs like me and work all the time. EVERYONE else is lazy and just wants to have fun after work, and that’s in my circle. This spans over decades in the different jobs and sectors I worked at, in different countries. Do you have a different experience around you? I have trouble convincing people to read for 30 minutes every day.\n
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            I dont think it is reasonable to assume humans will act the same way in all conditions. I know people who just slack off, and its generally because there is no incentive not to do the bare minimum when you are alienated from your labor
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            Better to have them making the decision than capitalists, who make more money for paying employees less\n
            \n
            Also who says half of them have to be fired? Can’t everyone just work less?
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            Your only question is “what am I missing” and the answer is an economics education.\n
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            But to address your “concerns” you’re operating on the mindset of maximizing profit to compete against other firms maximizing profit, which is only a problem under capitalism (until you reach the monopoly stage)
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            > Late Victorian Age\n
            \n
            It is literally a book about western liberal democracies committing genocide, including through intentionally creating famines.\n
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            > Oh, and you claim the Holodomor didn’t happen? Well, let me guess, Stalin also didn’t got 30 million sowiet people killed?\n
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            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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          +body: "Read “riding the wave” fo learn about how Scandinavian countries are beneficiaries of the imperialist system"
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          +body: """
            I will repeat:\n
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            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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            > Maybe you’ll change your mind one day and understand why the world we live in is the way we live in.\n
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            This from the person who is spouting econ 101 nonsense.
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    +body: "THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves."
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            > But to summarize. You basically want to wreck the current system on the basis that everyone will be diligent, reading all the time, just for the “greater good”, more so than their own profit.\n
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            No, that’s a strawman. People won’t all be diligent. But they will be more productive in general when they are not alienated from their labor. This has been proven with a bunch of economic data on socialist countries and data on cooperatives even within a capitalist environment.\n
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            > And btw, about the “bare minimum”. No one has a reason to not do the bare minimum as they don’t get fired (consequences). There will always be the lazy guy who does the bare minimum, and everyone will get lazier because they’ll get jealous with zero consequences.\n
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            You’re just literally describing capitalism and being like, what about this problem under socialism? The consequences are youre not contributing. Do you think everyone is suddenly going to be less motivated when they’re actually able to realize the product of their labor, instead of having a parasite on top taking it?
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            Thats it interesting scenario, but why are you assuming that there is a significant segment that won’t want to learn, especially when they’re no longer alienated from their labor? And why are you assuming that the total laborers will increase with new technology, when you can retrain existing workers?\n
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            I dont think your scenario is realistic, it kinda reads as really misanthropic
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            No, overthrowing capitalism and beginning a transition to a more rational economic system increases your life expectancy. You can literally look up graphs.\n
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            [statista.com/…/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041395/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/)
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            See you’re still trapped within the logic of capitalism which maximizes profits and expansion over other concerns.\n
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            > So, assuming we want to keep everyone (including useless people who’d rather have beer instead of reading a book to learn the new stuff), the income of everyone will just go down over time. Eventually, with no one getting fire there won’t be enough money to go around to feed them. What am I missing here?\n
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            These are all massive assumptions
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            Unfortunately in the case of econ 101, you are taught that 2+2=5 most modern econ is neoclassical, which means operating on pre-marx economics and just ignoring marxist critiques of the political economy.\n
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            Literally sharing nazi propaganda from Hearst press lol\n
            \n
            Anyway, capitalism is known for never having famines or economic crises, especially not cyclical ones
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            You literally only have one question, the rest of it is opining.\n
            \n
            You’re assuming a wage labor model and that people working twice as efficiently and at half intensity would result in decreased production.\n
            \n
            1. wage labor models aren’t universal\n
            2. there is no reasoning stated for why production would go down\n
            \n
            You’re assuming people would have to be fired to maintain competitive growth. This is based on the logic of firms competing to capture market share. There isn’t really a rational reason for this to need to happen under systems were the point is to accommodate human need, not to maximize profit.
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          +body: "Do you think the shareholders are active in problem solving? Workers include basically everyone but the shareholders. The tech guys, the executives, the managers."
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          +body: "Read the economy and class structure of german fascism if you want a detailed explanation for “scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds”"
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            > And yes, the only pro-Western nation ever falling into a serious Food-Crisis was… Haiti.\n
            \n
            Read Late Victorian Holocausts if you want to be less wrong.\n
            \n
            > Well, actually I am sharing “Wikipedia Propaganda” but if you want to call Wikipedia Nazi-Propaganda…\n
            \n
            The holodomor was originally fabricated by a hearst press associate at a time when Mr Hearst and the third Reich were openly collaborating on spreading nazi propaganda in the US. The famine was bad but the myth that it was a genocide needs to die as it is literally nazi propaganda and was used as a justification for collaborating with the holocaust in Eastern Europe\n
            \n
            This is in fact the mainstream academic position. You may look to Conquest, Davies, and Wheatcroft, who are genuinely anticommunist historians, for their analysis (they all say it wasn’t a genocide)
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            > Because the fraction of the current world that reads every day and learns every day is extremely small.\n
            \n
            Socialist countries are famous for literacy and education drives\n
            \n
            > Again, like I said before, how many people around you come back from work and want to read technical books and watch courses instead of chilling, or hanging out with friends? I have two friends who are nut jobs like me and work all the time. EVERYONE else is lazy and just wants to have fun after work, and that’s in my circle. This spans over decades in the different jobs and sectors I worked at, in different countries. Do you have a different experience around you? I have trouble convincing people to read for 30 minutes every day.\n
            \n
            I dont think it is reasonable to assume humans will act the same way in all conditions. I know people who just slack off, and its generally because there is no incentive not to do the bare minimum when you are alienated from your labor
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            Better to have them making the decision than capitalists, who make more money for paying employees less\n
            \n
            Also who says half of them have to be fired? Can’t everyone just work less?
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            Your only question is “what am I missing” and the answer is an economics education.\n
            \n
            But to address your “concerns” you’re operating on the mindset of maximizing profit to compete against other firms maximizing profit, which is only a problem under capitalism (until you reach the monopoly stage)
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            > Late Victorian Age\n
            \n
            It is literally a book about western liberal democracies committing genocide, including through intentionally creating famines.\n
            \n
            > Oh, and you claim the Holodomor didn’t happen? Well, let me guess, Stalin also didn’t got 30 million sowiet people killed?\n
            \n
            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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            > But to summarize. You basically want to wreck the current system on the basis that everyone will be diligent, reading all the time, just for the “greater good”, more so than their own profit.\n
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            Thats it interesting scenario, but why are you assuming that there is a significant segment that won’t want to learn, especially when they’re no longer alienated from their labor? And why are you assuming that the total laborers will increase with new technology, when you can retrain existing workers?\n
            \n
            I dont think your scenario is realistic, it kinda reads as really misanthropic
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            No, overthrowing capitalism and beginning a transition to a more rational economic system increases your life expectancy. You can literally look up graphs.\n
            \n
            [statista.com/…/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041395/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/)
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          +body: "Yes. All of those countries had more civil rights and longer life expectancy after the revolution"
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            See you’re still trapped within the logic of capitalism which maximizes profits and expansion over other concerns.\n
            \n
            > So, assuming we want to keep everyone (including useless people who’d rather have beer instead of reading a book to learn the new stuff), the income of everyone will just go down over time. Eventually, with no one getting fire there won’t be enough money to go around to feed them. What am I missing here?\n
            \n
            These are all massive assumptions
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            Unfortunately in the case of econ 101, you are taught that 2+2=5 most modern econ is neoclassical, which means operating on pre-marx economics and just ignoring marxist critiques of the political economy.\n
            \n
            > and money falls from the sky, and everyone being lazy leads to growth, I’ll ask them to justify.\n
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            Thats a mighty strawman you invented. Workers are going to do the bare minimum to not get fired when it literally doesn’t matter how much they work, their income will be the same. When workers are invested in an organization, they do more work.
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            Literally sharing nazi propaganda from Hearst press lol\n
            \n
            Anyway, capitalism is known for never having famines or economic crises, especially not cyclical ones
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            You literally only have one question, the rest of it is opining.\n
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            You’re assuming a wage labor model and that people working twice as efficiently and at half intensity would result in decreased production.\n
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            1. wage labor models aren’t universal\n
            2. there is no reasoning stated for why production would go down\n
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            You’re assuming people would have to be fired to maintain competitive growth. This is based on the logic of firms competing to capture market share. There isn’t really a rational reason for this to need to happen under systems were the point is to accommodate human need, not to maximize profit.
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            > And yes, the only pro-Western nation ever falling into a serious Food-Crisis was… Haiti.\n
            \n
            Read Late Victorian Holocausts if you want to be less wrong.\n
            \n
            > Well, actually I am sharing “Wikipedia Propaganda” but if you want to call Wikipedia Nazi-Propaganda…\n
            \n
            The holodomor was originally fabricated by a hearst press associate at a time when Mr Hearst and the third Reich were openly collaborating on spreading nazi propaganda in the US. The famine was bad but the myth that it was a genocide needs to die as it is literally nazi propaganda and was used as a justification for collaborating with the holocaust in Eastern Europe\n
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            This is in fact the mainstream academic position. You may look to Conquest, Davies, and Wheatcroft, who are genuinely anticommunist historians, for their analysis (they all say it wasn’t a genocide)
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            > Because the fraction of the current world that reads every day and learns every day is extremely small.\n
            \n
            Socialist countries are famous for literacy and education drives\n
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            > Again, like I said before, how many people around you come back from work and want to read technical books and watch courses instead of chilling, or hanging out with friends? I have two friends who are nut jobs like me and work all the time. EVERYONE else is lazy and just wants to have fun after work, and that’s in my circle. This spans over decades in the different jobs and sectors I worked at, in different countries. Do you have a different experience around you? I have trouble convincing people to read for 30 minutes every day.\n
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            I dont think it is reasonable to assume humans will act the same way in all conditions. I know people who just slack off, and its generally because there is no incentive not to do the bare minimum when you are alienated from your labor
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            Better to have them making the decision than capitalists, who make more money for paying employees less\n
            \n
            Also who says half of them have to be fired? Can’t everyone just work less?
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            Your only question is “what am I missing” and the answer is an economics education.\n
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            But to address your “concerns” you’re operating on the mindset of maximizing profit to compete against other firms maximizing profit, which is only a problem under capitalism (until you reach the monopoly stage)
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            > Late Victorian Age\n
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            It is literally a book about western liberal democracies committing genocide, including through intentionally creating famines.\n
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            > Oh, and you claim the Holodomor didn’t happen? Well, let me guess, Stalin also didn’t got 30 million sowiet people killed?\n
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            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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          +body: "Read “riding the wave” fo learn about how Scandinavian countries are beneficiaries of the imperialist system"
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            I will repeat:\n
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            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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            > Maybe you’ll change your mind one day and understand why the world we live in is the way we live in.\n
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            This from the person who is spouting econ 101 nonsense.
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    +body: "THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves."
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            > But to summarize. You basically want to wreck the current system on the basis that everyone will be diligent, reading all the time, just for the “greater good”, more so than their own profit.\n
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            You’re just literally describing capitalism and being like, what about this problem under socialism? The consequences are youre not contributing. Do you think everyone is suddenly going to be less motivated when they’re actually able to realize the product of their labor, instead of having a parasite on top taking it?
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            Thats it interesting scenario, but why are you assuming that there is a significant segment that won’t want to learn, especially when they’re no longer alienated from their labor? And why are you assuming that the total laborers will increase with new technology, when you can retrain existing workers?\n
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            No, overthrowing capitalism and beginning a transition to a more rational economic system increases your life expectancy. You can literally look up graphs.\n
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            [statista.com/…/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041395/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/)
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          +body: "Yes. All of those countries had more civil rights and longer life expectancy after the revolution"
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            See you’re still trapped within the logic of capitalism which maximizes profits and expansion over other concerns.\n
            \n
            > So, assuming we want to keep everyone (including useless people who’d rather have beer instead of reading a book to learn the new stuff), the income of everyone will just go down over time. Eventually, with no one getting fire there won’t be enough money to go around to feed them. What am I missing here?\n
            \n
            These are all massive assumptions
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            Unfortunately in the case of econ 101, you are taught that 2+2=5 most modern econ is neoclassical, which means operating on pre-marx economics and just ignoring marxist critiques of the political economy.\n
            \n
            > and money falls from the sky, and everyone being lazy leads to growth, I’ll ask them to justify.\n
            \n
            Thats a mighty strawman you invented. Workers are going to do the bare minimum to not get fired when it literally doesn’t matter how much they work, their income will be the same. When workers are invested in an organization, they do more work.
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            Literally sharing nazi propaganda from Hearst press lol\n
            \n
            Anyway, capitalism is known for never having famines or economic crises, especially not cyclical ones
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            You literally only have one question, the rest of it is opining.\n
            \n
            You’re assuming a wage labor model and that people working twice as efficiently and at half intensity would result in decreased production.\n
            \n
            1. wage labor models aren’t universal\n
            2. there is no reasoning stated for why production would go down\n
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            You’re assuming people would have to be fired to maintain competitive growth. This is based on the logic of firms competing to capture market share. There isn’t really a rational reason for this to need to happen under systems were the point is to accommodate human need, not to maximize profit.
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          +body: "Do you think the shareholders are active in problem solving? Workers include basically everyone but the shareholders. The tech guys, the executives, the managers."
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          +body: "Read the economy and class structure of german fascism if you want a detailed explanation for “scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds”"
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            > And yes, the only pro-Western nation ever falling into a serious Food-Crisis was… Haiti.\n
            \n
            Read Late Victorian Holocausts if you want to be less wrong.\n
            \n
            > Well, actually I am sharing “Wikipedia Propaganda” but if you want to call Wikipedia Nazi-Propaganda…\n
            \n
            The holodomor was originally fabricated by a hearst press associate at a time when Mr Hearst and the third Reich were openly collaborating on spreading nazi propaganda in the US. The famine was bad but the myth that it was a genocide needs to die as it is literally nazi propaganda and was used as a justification for collaborating with the holocaust in Eastern Europe\n
            \n
            This is in fact the mainstream academic position. You may look to Conquest, Davies, and Wheatcroft, who are genuinely anticommunist historians, for their analysis (they all say it wasn’t a genocide)
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            > Because the fraction of the current world that reads every day and learns every day is extremely small.\n
            \n
            Socialist countries are famous for literacy and education drives\n
            \n
            > Again, like I said before, how many people around you come back from work and want to read technical books and watch courses instead of chilling, or hanging out with friends? I have two friends who are nut jobs like me and work all the time. EVERYONE else is lazy and just wants to have fun after work, and that’s in my circle. This spans over decades in the different jobs and sectors I worked at, in different countries. Do you have a different experience around you? I have trouble convincing people to read for 30 minutes every day.\n
            \n
            I dont think it is reasonable to assume humans will act the same way in all conditions. I know people who just slack off, and its generally because there is no incentive not to do the bare minimum when you are alienated from your labor
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            Better to have them making the decision than capitalists, who make more money for paying employees less\n
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            Also who says half of them have to be fired? Can’t everyone just work less?
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            Your only question is “what am I missing” and the answer is an economics education.\n
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            But to address your “concerns” you’re operating on the mindset of maximizing profit to compete against other firms maximizing profit, which is only a problem under capitalism (until you reach the monopoly stage)
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            > Late Victorian Age\n
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            It is literally a book about western liberal democracies committing genocide, including through intentionally creating famines.\n
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            > Oh, and you claim the Holodomor didn’t happen? Well, let me guess, Stalin also didn’t got 30 million sowiet people killed?\n
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            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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          +body: "Read “riding the wave” fo learn about how Scandinavian countries are beneficiaries of the imperialist system"
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            I will repeat:\n
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            > Maybe you’ll change your mind one day and understand why the world we live in is the way we live in.\n
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            This from the person who is spouting econ 101 nonsense.
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            > But to summarize. You basically want to wreck the current system on the basis that everyone will be diligent, reading all the time, just for the “greater good”, more so than their own profit.\n
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            No, that’s a strawman. People won’t all be diligent. But they will be more productive in general when they are not alienated from their labor. This has been proven with a bunch of economic data on socialist countries and data on cooperatives even within a capitalist environment.\n
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            > And btw, about the “bare minimum”. No one has a reason to not do the bare minimum as they don’t get fired (consequences). There will always be the lazy guy who does the bare minimum, and everyone will get lazier because they’ll get jealous with zero consequences.\n
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            You’re just literally describing capitalism and being like, what about this problem under socialism? The consequences are youre not contributing. Do you think everyone is suddenly going to be less motivated when they’re actually able to realize the product of their labor, instead of having a parasite on top taking it?
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            Thats it interesting scenario, but why are you assuming that there is a significant segment that won’t want to learn, especially when they’re no longer alienated from their labor? And why are you assuming that the total laborers will increase with new technology, when you can retrain existing workers?\n
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            I dont think your scenario is realistic, it kinda reads as really misanthropic
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            No, overthrowing capitalism and beginning a transition to a more rational economic system increases your life expectancy. You can literally look up graphs.\n
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            [statista.com/…/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041395/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/)
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          +body: "Yes. All of those countries had more civil rights and longer life expectancy after the revolution"
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            See you’re still trapped within the logic of capitalism which maximizes profits and expansion over other concerns.\n
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            > So, assuming we want to keep everyone (including useless people who’d rather have beer instead of reading a book to learn the new stuff), the income of everyone will just go down over time. Eventually, with no one getting fire there won’t be enough money to go around to feed them. What am I missing here?\n
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            These are all massive assumptions
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            Unfortunately in the case of econ 101, you are taught that 2+2=5 most modern econ is neoclassical, which means operating on pre-marx economics and just ignoring marxist critiques of the political economy.\n
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            > and money falls from the sky, and everyone being lazy leads to growth, I’ll ask them to justify.\n
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            Thats a mighty strawman you invented. Workers are going to do the bare minimum to not get fired when it literally doesn’t matter how much they work, their income will be the same. When workers are invested in an organization, they do more work.
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            Literally sharing nazi propaganda from Hearst press lol\n
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            Anyway, capitalism is known for never having famines or economic crises, especially not cyclical ones
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            You literally only have one question, the rest of it is opining.\n
            \n
            You’re assuming a wage labor model and that people working twice as efficiently and at half intensity would result in decreased production.\n
            \n
            1. wage labor models aren’t universal\n
            2. there is no reasoning stated for why production would go down\n
            \n
            You’re assuming people would have to be fired to maintain competitive growth. This is based on the logic of firms competing to capture market share. There isn’t really a rational reason for this to need to happen under systems were the point is to accommodate human need, not to maximize profit.
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          +body: "Do you think the shareholders are active in problem solving? Workers include basically everyone but the shareholders. The tech guys, the executives, the managers."
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          +body: "Read the economy and class structure of german fascism if you want a detailed explanation for “scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds”"
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          +body: """
            > And yes, the only pro-Western nation ever falling into a serious Food-Crisis was… Haiti.\n
            \n
            Read Late Victorian Holocausts if you want to be less wrong.\n
            \n
            > Well, actually I am sharing “Wikipedia Propaganda” but if you want to call Wikipedia Nazi-Propaganda…\n
            \n
            The holodomor was originally fabricated by a hearst press associate at a time when Mr Hearst and the third Reich were openly collaborating on spreading nazi propaganda in the US. The famine was bad but the myth that it was a genocide needs to die as it is literally nazi propaganda and was used as a justification for collaborating with the holocaust in Eastern Europe\n
            \n
            This is in fact the mainstream academic position. You may look to Conquest, Davies, and Wheatcroft, who are genuinely anticommunist historians, for their analysis (they all say it wasn’t a genocide)
            """
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          +body: """
            > Because the fraction of the current world that reads every day and learns every day is extremely small.\n
            \n
            Socialist countries are famous for literacy and education drives\n
            \n
            > Again, like I said before, how many people around you come back from work and want to read technical books and watch courses instead of chilling, or hanging out with friends? I have two friends who are nut jobs like me and work all the time. EVERYONE else is lazy and just wants to have fun after work, and that’s in my circle. This spans over decades in the different jobs and sectors I worked at, in different countries. Do you have a different experience around you? I have trouble convincing people to read for 30 minutes every day.\n
            \n
            I dont think it is reasonable to assume humans will act the same way in all conditions. I know people who just slack off, and its generally because there is no incentive not to do the bare minimum when you are alienated from your labor
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            Better to have them making the decision than capitalists, who make more money for paying employees less\n
            \n
            Also who says half of them have to be fired? Can’t everyone just work less?
            """
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          +body: """
            Your only question is “what am I missing” and the answer is an economics education.\n
            \n
            But to address your “concerns” you’re operating on the mindset of maximizing profit to compete against other firms maximizing profit, which is only a problem under capitalism (until you reach the monopoly stage)
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            > Late Victorian Age\n
            \n
            It is literally a book about western liberal democracies committing genocide, including through intentionally creating famines.\n
            \n
            > Oh, and you claim the Holodomor didn’t happen? Well, let me guess, Stalin also didn’t got 30 million sowiet people killed?\n
            \n
            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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          +body: "Read “riding the wave” fo learn about how Scandinavian countries are beneficiaries of the imperialist system"
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            I will repeat:\n
            \n
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            > Maybe you’ll change your mind one day and understand why the world we live in is the way we live in.\n
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            This from the person who is spouting econ 101 nonsense.
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            > But to summarize. You basically want to wreck the current system on the basis that everyone will be diligent, reading all the time, just for the “greater good”, more so than their own profit.\n
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            You’re just literally describing capitalism and being like, what about this problem under socialism? The consequences are youre not contributing. Do you think everyone is suddenly going to be less motivated when they’re actually able to realize the product of their labor, instead of having a parasite on top taking it?
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            Thats it interesting scenario, but why are you assuming that there is a significant segment that won’t want to learn, especially when they’re no longer alienated from their labor? And why are you assuming that the total laborers will increase with new technology, when you can retrain existing workers?\n
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            No, overthrowing capitalism and beginning a transition to a more rational economic system increases your life expectancy. You can literally look up graphs.\n
            \n
            [statista.com/…/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041395/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/)
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          +body: "Yes. All of those countries had more civil rights and longer life expectancy after the revolution"
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            See you’re still trapped within the logic of capitalism which maximizes profits and expansion over other concerns.\n
            \n
            > So, assuming we want to keep everyone (including useless people who’d rather have beer instead of reading a book to learn the new stuff), the income of everyone will just go down over time. Eventually, with no one getting fire there won’t be enough money to go around to feed them. What am I missing here?\n
            \n
            These are all massive assumptions
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            Unfortunately in the case of econ 101, you are taught that 2+2=5 most modern econ is neoclassical, which means operating on pre-marx economics and just ignoring marxist critiques of the political economy.\n
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            > and money falls from the sky, and everyone being lazy leads to growth, I’ll ask them to justify.\n
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            Thats a mighty strawman you invented. Workers are going to do the bare minimum to not get fired when it literally doesn’t matter how much they work, their income will be the same. When workers are invested in an organization, they do more work.
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          +body: "THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves."
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            You literally only have one question, the rest of it is opining.\n
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            You’re assuming a wage labor model and that people working twice as efficiently and at half intensity would result in decreased production.\n
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            1. wage labor models aren’t universal\n
            2. there is no reasoning stated for why production would go down\n
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            You’re assuming people would have to be fired to maintain competitive growth. This is based on the logic of firms competing to capture market share. There isn’t really a rational reason for this to need to happen under systems were the point is to accommodate human need, not to maximize profit.
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            > And yes, the only pro-Western nation ever falling into a serious Food-Crisis was… Haiti.\n
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            Read Late Victorian Holocausts if you want to be less wrong.\n
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            > Well, actually I am sharing “Wikipedia Propaganda” but if you want to call Wikipedia Nazi-Propaganda…\n
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            The holodomor was originally fabricated by a hearst press associate at a time when Mr Hearst and the third Reich were openly collaborating on spreading nazi propaganda in the US. The famine was bad but the myth that it was a genocide needs to die as it is literally nazi propaganda and was used as a justification for collaborating with the holocaust in Eastern Europe\n
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            This is in fact the mainstream academic position. You may look to Conquest, Davies, and Wheatcroft, who are genuinely anticommunist historians, for their analysis (they all say it wasn’t a genocide)
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            > Because the fraction of the current world that reads every day and learns every day is extremely small.\n
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            Socialist countries are famous for literacy and education drives\n
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            > Again, like I said before, how many people around you come back from work and want to read technical books and watch courses instead of chilling, or hanging out with friends? I have two friends who are nut jobs like me and work all the time. EVERYONE else is lazy and just wants to have fun after work, and that’s in my circle. This spans over decades in the different jobs and sectors I worked at, in different countries. Do you have a different experience around you? I have trouble convincing people to read for 30 minutes every day.\n
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            I dont think it is reasonable to assume humans will act the same way in all conditions. I know people who just slack off, and its generally because there is no incentive not to do the bare minimum when you are alienated from your labor
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            Better to have them making the decision than capitalists, who make more money for paying employees less\n
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            Also who says half of them have to be fired? Can’t everyone just work less?
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            Your only question is “what am I missing” and the answer is an economics education.\n
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            But to address your “concerns” you’re operating on the mindset of maximizing profit to compete against other firms maximizing profit, which is only a problem under capitalism (until you reach the monopoly stage)
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            > Late Victorian Age\n
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            It is literally a book about western liberal democracies committing genocide, including through intentionally creating famines.\n
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            > Oh, and you claim the Holodomor didn’t happen? Well, let me guess, Stalin also didn’t got 30 million sowiet people killed?\n
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            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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          +body: "Read “riding the wave” fo learn about how Scandinavian countries are beneficiaries of the imperialist system"
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            I will repeat:\n
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            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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            > Maybe you’ll change your mind one day and understand why the world we live in is the way we live in.\n
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            This from the person who is spouting econ 101 nonsense.
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      Literally sharing nazi propaganda from Hearst press lol\n
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      Anyway, capitalism is known for never having famines or economic crises, especially not cyclical ones
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            > But to summarize. You basically want to wreck the current system on the basis that everyone will be diligent, reading all the time, just for the “greater good”, more so than their own profit.\n
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            No, that’s a strawman. People won’t all be diligent. But they will be more productive in general when they are not alienated from their labor. This has been proven with a bunch of economic data on socialist countries and data on cooperatives even within a capitalist environment.\n
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            > And btw, about the “bare minimum”. No one has a reason to not do the bare minimum as they don’t get fired (consequences). There will always be the lazy guy who does the bare minimum, and everyone will get lazier because they’ll get jealous with zero consequences.\n
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            You’re just literally describing capitalism and being like, what about this problem under socialism? The consequences are youre not contributing. Do you think everyone is suddenly going to be less motivated when they’re actually able to realize the product of their labor, instead of having a parasite on top taking it?
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            Thats it interesting scenario, but why are you assuming that there is a significant segment that won’t want to learn, especially when they’re no longer alienated from their labor? And why are you assuming that the total laborers will increase with new technology, when you can retrain existing workers?\n
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            I dont think your scenario is realistic, it kinda reads as really misanthropic
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            No, overthrowing capitalism and beginning a transition to a more rational economic system increases your life expectancy. You can literally look up graphs.\n
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            [statista.com/…/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041395/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/)
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            See you’re still trapped within the logic of capitalism which maximizes profits and expansion over other concerns.\n
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            > So, assuming we want to keep everyone (including useless people who’d rather have beer instead of reading a book to learn the new stuff), the income of everyone will just go down over time. Eventually, with no one getting fire there won’t be enough money to go around to feed them. What am I missing here?\n
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            These are all massive assumptions
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            Unfortunately in the case of econ 101, you are taught that 2+2=5 most modern econ is neoclassical, which means operating on pre-marx economics and just ignoring marxist critiques of the political economy.\n
            \n
            > and money falls from the sky, and everyone being lazy leads to growth, I’ll ask them to justify.\n
            \n
            Thats a mighty strawman you invented. Workers are going to do the bare minimum to not get fired when it literally doesn’t matter how much they work, their income will be the same. When workers are invested in an organization, they do more work.
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          +body: "THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves."
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            You literally only have one question, the rest of it is opining.\n
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            You’re assuming a wage labor model and that people working twice as efficiently and at half intensity would result in decreased production.\n
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            1. wage labor models aren’t universal\n
            2. there is no reasoning stated for why production would go down\n
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            You’re assuming people would have to be fired to maintain competitive growth. This is based on the logic of firms competing to capture market share. There isn’t really a rational reason for this to need to happen under systems were the point is to accommodate human need, not to maximize profit.
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          +body: "Do you think the shareholders are active in problem solving? Workers include basically everyone but the shareholders. The tech guys, the executives, the managers."
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          +body: "Read the economy and class structure of german fascism if you want a detailed explanation for “scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds”"
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            > And yes, the only pro-Western nation ever falling into a serious Food-Crisis was… Haiti.\n
            \n
            Read Late Victorian Holocausts if you want to be less wrong.\n
            \n
            > Well, actually I am sharing “Wikipedia Propaganda” but if you want to call Wikipedia Nazi-Propaganda…\n
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            The holodomor was originally fabricated by a hearst press associate at a time when Mr Hearst and the third Reich were openly collaborating on spreading nazi propaganda in the US. The famine was bad but the myth that it was a genocide needs to die as it is literally nazi propaganda and was used as a justification for collaborating with the holocaust in Eastern Europe\n
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            This is in fact the mainstream academic position. You may look to Conquest, Davies, and Wheatcroft, who are genuinely anticommunist historians, for their analysis (they all say it wasn’t a genocide)
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            > Because the fraction of the current world that reads every day and learns every day is extremely small.\n
            \n
            Socialist countries are famous for literacy and education drives\n
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            > Again, like I said before, how many people around you come back from work and want to read technical books and watch courses instead of chilling, or hanging out with friends? I have two friends who are nut jobs like me and work all the time. EVERYONE else is lazy and just wants to have fun after work, and that’s in my circle. This spans over decades in the different jobs and sectors I worked at, in different countries. Do you have a different experience around you? I have trouble convincing people to read for 30 minutes every day.\n
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            I dont think it is reasonable to assume humans will act the same way in all conditions. I know people who just slack off, and its generally because there is no incentive not to do the bare minimum when you are alienated from your labor
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            Better to have them making the decision than capitalists, who make more money for paying employees less\n
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            Also who says half of them have to be fired? Can’t everyone just work less?
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            Your only question is “what am I missing” and the answer is an economics education.\n
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            But to address your “concerns” you’re operating on the mindset of maximizing profit to compete against other firms maximizing profit, which is only a problem under capitalism (until you reach the monopoly stage)
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            > Late Victorian Age\n
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            It is literally a book about western liberal democracies committing genocide, including through intentionally creating famines.\n
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            > Oh, and you claim the Holodomor didn’t happen? Well, let me guess, Stalin also didn’t got 30 million sowiet people killed?\n
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            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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            I will repeat:\n
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            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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            > Maybe you’ll change your mind one day and understand why the world we live in is the way we live in.\n
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            This from the person who is spouting econ 101 nonsense.
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      Literally sharing nazi propaganda from Hearst press lol\n
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      Anyway, capitalism is known for never having famines or economic crises, especially not cyclical ones
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            > But to summarize. You basically want to wreck the current system on the basis that everyone will be diligent, reading all the time, just for the “greater good”, more so than their own profit.\n
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            No, that’s a strawman. People won’t all be diligent. But they will be more productive in general when they are not alienated from their labor. This has been proven with a bunch of economic data on socialist countries and data on cooperatives even within a capitalist environment.\n
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            You’re just literally describing capitalism and being like, what about this problem under socialism? The consequences are youre not contributing. Do you think everyone is suddenly going to be less motivated when they’re actually able to realize the product of their labor, instead of having a parasite on top taking it?
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            Thats it interesting scenario, but why are you assuming that there is a significant segment that won’t want to learn, especially when they’re no longer alienated from their labor? And why are you assuming that the total laborers will increase with new technology, when you can retrain existing workers?\n
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            I dont think your scenario is realistic, it kinda reads as really misanthropic
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            No, overthrowing capitalism and beginning a transition to a more rational economic system increases your life expectancy. You can literally look up graphs.\n
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            [statista.com/…/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041395/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/)
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          +body: "Yes. All of those countries had more civil rights and longer life expectancy after the revolution"
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            See you’re still trapped within the logic of capitalism which maximizes profits and expansion over other concerns.\n
            \n
            > So, assuming we want to keep everyone (including useless people who’d rather have beer instead of reading a book to learn the new stuff), the income of everyone will just go down over time. Eventually, with no one getting fire there won’t be enough money to go around to feed them. What am I missing here?\n
            \n
            These are all massive assumptions
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            Unfortunately in the case of econ 101, you are taught that 2+2=5 most modern econ is neoclassical, which means operating on pre-marx economics and just ignoring marxist critiques of the political economy.\n
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            > and money falls from the sky, and everyone being lazy leads to growth, I’ll ask them to justify.\n
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            Thats a mighty strawman you invented. Workers are going to do the bare minimum to not get fired when it literally doesn’t matter how much they work, their income will be the same. When workers are invested in an organization, they do more work.
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          +body: "THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves."
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            You literally only have one question, the rest of it is opining.\n
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            You’re assuming a wage labor model and that people working twice as efficiently and at half intensity would result in decreased production.\n
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            1. wage labor models aren’t universal\n
            2. there is no reasoning stated for why production would go down\n
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            You’re assuming people would have to be fired to maintain competitive growth. This is based on the logic of firms competing to capture market share. There isn’t really a rational reason for this to need to happen under systems were the point is to accommodate human need, not to maximize profit.
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            > And yes, the only pro-Western nation ever falling into a serious Food-Crisis was… Haiti.\n
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            Read Late Victorian Holocausts if you want to be less wrong.\n
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            > Well, actually I am sharing “Wikipedia Propaganda” but if you want to call Wikipedia Nazi-Propaganda…\n
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            The holodomor was originally fabricated by a hearst press associate at a time when Mr Hearst and the third Reich were openly collaborating on spreading nazi propaganda in the US. The famine was bad but the myth that it was a genocide needs to die as it is literally nazi propaganda and was used as a justification for collaborating with the holocaust in Eastern Europe\n
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            This is in fact the mainstream academic position. You may look to Conquest, Davies, and Wheatcroft, who are genuinely anticommunist historians, for their analysis (they all say it wasn’t a genocide)
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            > Because the fraction of the current world that reads every day and learns every day is extremely small.\n
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            Socialist countries are famous for literacy and education drives\n
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            > Again, like I said before, how many people around you come back from work and want to read technical books and watch courses instead of chilling, or hanging out with friends? I have two friends who are nut jobs like me and work all the time. EVERYONE else is lazy and just wants to have fun after work, and that’s in my circle. This spans over decades in the different jobs and sectors I worked at, in different countries. Do you have a different experience around you? I have trouble convincing people to read for 30 minutes every day.\n
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            I dont think it is reasonable to assume humans will act the same way in all conditions. I know people who just slack off, and its generally because there is no incentive not to do the bare minimum when you are alienated from your labor
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            Better to have them making the decision than capitalists, who make more money for paying employees less\n
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            Also who says half of them have to be fired? Can’t everyone just work less?
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            Your only question is “what am I missing” and the answer is an economics education.\n
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            But to address your “concerns” you’re operating on the mindset of maximizing profit to compete against other firms maximizing profit, which is only a problem under capitalism (until you reach the monopoly stage)
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            > Late Victorian Age\n
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            It is literally a book about western liberal democracies committing genocide, including through intentionally creating famines.\n
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            > Oh, and you claim the Holodomor didn’t happen? Well, let me guess, Stalin also didn’t got 30 million sowiet people killed?\n
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            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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          +body: "Read “riding the wave” fo learn about how Scandinavian countries are beneficiaries of the imperialist system"
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            I will repeat:\n
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            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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            > Maybe you’ll change your mind one day and understand why the world we live in is the way we live in.\n
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            This from the person who is spouting econ 101 nonsense.
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      Literally sharing nazi propaganda from Hearst press lol\n
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      Anyway, capitalism is known for never having famines or economic crises, especially not cyclical ones
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            > But to summarize. You basically want to wreck the current system on the basis that everyone will be diligent, reading all the time, just for the “greater good”, more so than their own profit.\n
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            No, that’s a strawman. People won’t all be diligent. But they will be more productive in general when they are not alienated from their labor. This has been proven with a bunch of economic data on socialist countries and data on cooperatives even within a capitalist environment.\n
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            > And btw, about the “bare minimum”. No one has a reason to not do the bare minimum as they don’t get fired (consequences). There will always be the lazy guy who does the bare minimum, and everyone will get lazier because they’ll get jealous with zero consequences.\n
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            You’re just literally describing capitalism and being like, what about this problem under socialism? The consequences are youre not contributing. Do you think everyone is suddenly going to be less motivated when they’re actually able to realize the product of their labor, instead of having a parasite on top taking it?
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            Thats it interesting scenario, but why are you assuming that there is a significant segment that won’t want to learn, especially when they’re no longer alienated from their labor? And why are you assuming that the total laborers will increase with new technology, when you can retrain existing workers?\n
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            I dont think your scenario is realistic, it kinda reads as really misanthropic
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            No, overthrowing capitalism and beginning a transition to a more rational economic system increases your life expectancy. You can literally look up graphs.\n
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            [statista.com/…/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041395/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/)
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            See you’re still trapped within the logic of capitalism which maximizes profits and expansion over other concerns.\n
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            > So, assuming we want to keep everyone (including useless people who’d rather have beer instead of reading a book to learn the new stuff), the income of everyone will just go down over time. Eventually, with no one getting fire there won’t be enough money to go around to feed them. What am I missing here?\n
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            These are all massive assumptions
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            Unfortunately in the case of econ 101, you are taught that 2+2=5 most modern econ is neoclassical, which means operating on pre-marx economics and just ignoring marxist critiques of the political economy.\n
            \n
            > and money falls from the sky, and everyone being lazy leads to growth, I’ll ask them to justify.\n
            \n
            Thats a mighty strawman you invented. Workers are going to do the bare minimum to not get fired when it literally doesn’t matter how much they work, their income will be the same. When workers are invested in an organization, they do more work.
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          +body: "THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves."
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            You literally only have one question, the rest of it is opining.\n
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            You’re assuming a wage labor model and that people working twice as efficiently and at half intensity would result in decreased production.\n
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            1. wage labor models aren’t universal\n
            2. there is no reasoning stated for why production would go down\n
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            You’re assuming people would have to be fired to maintain competitive growth. This is based on the logic of firms competing to capture market share. There isn’t really a rational reason for this to need to happen under systems were the point is to accommodate human need, not to maximize profit.
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          +body: "Do you think the shareholders are active in problem solving? Workers include basically everyone but the shareholders. The tech guys, the executives, the managers."
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          +body: "Read the economy and class structure of german fascism if you want a detailed explanation for “scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds”"
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            > And yes, the only pro-Western nation ever falling into a serious Food-Crisis was… Haiti.\n
            \n
            Read Late Victorian Holocausts if you want to be less wrong.\n
            \n
            > Well, actually I am sharing “Wikipedia Propaganda” but if you want to call Wikipedia Nazi-Propaganda…\n
            \n
            The holodomor was originally fabricated by a hearst press associate at a time when Mr Hearst and the third Reich were openly collaborating on spreading nazi propaganda in the US. The famine was bad but the myth that it was a genocide needs to die as it is literally nazi propaganda and was used as a justification for collaborating with the holocaust in Eastern Europe\n
            \n
            This is in fact the mainstream academic position. You may look to Conquest, Davies, and Wheatcroft, who are genuinely anticommunist historians, for their analysis (they all say it wasn’t a genocide)
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            > Because the fraction of the current world that reads every day and learns every day is extremely small.\n
            \n
            Socialist countries are famous for literacy and education drives\n
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            > Again, like I said before, how many people around you come back from work and want to read technical books and watch courses instead of chilling, or hanging out with friends? I have two friends who are nut jobs like me and work all the time. EVERYONE else is lazy and just wants to have fun after work, and that’s in my circle. This spans over decades in the different jobs and sectors I worked at, in different countries. Do you have a different experience around you? I have trouble convincing people to read for 30 minutes every day.\n
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            I dont think it is reasonable to assume humans will act the same way in all conditions. I know people who just slack off, and its generally because there is no incentive not to do the bare minimum when you are alienated from your labor
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            Better to have them making the decision than capitalists, who make more money for paying employees less\n
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            Also who says half of them have to be fired? Can’t everyone just work less?
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            Your only question is “what am I missing” and the answer is an economics education.\n
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            But to address your “concerns” you’re operating on the mindset of maximizing profit to compete against other firms maximizing profit, which is only a problem under capitalism (until you reach the monopoly stage)
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            > Late Victorian Age\n
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            It is literally a book about western liberal democracies committing genocide, including through intentionally creating famines.\n
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            > Oh, and you claim the Holodomor didn’t happen? Well, let me guess, Stalin also didn’t got 30 million sowiet people killed?\n
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            I will repeat:\n
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            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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            > Maybe you’ll change your mind one day and understand why the world we live in is the way we live in.\n
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            This from the person who is spouting econ 101 nonsense.
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      Literally sharing nazi propaganda from Hearst press lol\n
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      Anyway, capitalism is known for never having famines or economic crises, especially not cyclical ones
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            > But to summarize. You basically want to wreck the current system on the basis that everyone will be diligent, reading all the time, just for the “greater good”, more so than their own profit.\n
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            No, that’s a strawman. People won’t all be diligent. But they will be more productive in general when they are not alienated from their labor. This has been proven with a bunch of economic data on socialist countries and data on cooperatives even within a capitalist environment.\n
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            > And btw, about the “bare minimum”. No one has a reason to not do the bare minimum as they don’t get fired (consequences). There will always be the lazy guy who does the bare minimum, and everyone will get lazier because they’ll get jealous with zero consequences.\n
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            You’re just literally describing capitalism and being like, what about this problem under socialism? The consequences are youre not contributing. Do you think everyone is suddenly going to be less motivated when they’re actually able to realize the product of their labor, instead of having a parasite on top taking it?
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            Thats it interesting scenario, but why are you assuming that there is a significant segment that won’t want to learn, especially when they’re no longer alienated from their labor? And why are you assuming that the total laborers will increase with new technology, when you can retrain existing workers?\n
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            I dont think your scenario is realistic, it kinda reads as really misanthropic
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            No, overthrowing capitalism and beginning a transition to a more rational economic system increases your life expectancy. You can literally look up graphs.\n
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            [statista.com/…/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041395/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/)
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          +body: "Yes. All of those countries had more civil rights and longer life expectancy after the revolution"
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            See you’re still trapped within the logic of capitalism which maximizes profits and expansion over other concerns.\n
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            > So, assuming we want to keep everyone (including useless people who’d rather have beer instead of reading a book to learn the new stuff), the income of everyone will just go down over time. Eventually, with no one getting fire there won’t be enough money to go around to feed them. What am I missing here?\n
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            These are all massive assumptions
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            Unfortunately in the case of econ 101, you are taught that 2+2=5 most modern econ is neoclassical, which means operating on pre-marx economics and just ignoring marxist critiques of the political economy.\n
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            > and money falls from the sky, and everyone being lazy leads to growth, I’ll ask them to justify.\n
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            Thats a mighty strawman you invented. Workers are going to do the bare minimum to not get fired when it literally doesn’t matter how much they work, their income will be the same. When workers are invested in an organization, they do more work.
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          +body: "THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves."
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            You literally only have one question, the rest of it is opining.\n
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            You’re assuming a wage labor model and that people working twice as efficiently and at half intensity would result in decreased production.\n
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            1. wage labor models aren’t universal\n
            2. there is no reasoning stated for why production would go down\n
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            You’re assuming people would have to be fired to maintain competitive growth. This is based on the logic of firms competing to capture market share. There isn’t really a rational reason for this to need to happen under systems were the point is to accommodate human need, not to maximize profit.
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          +body: "Do you think the shareholders are active in problem solving? Workers include basically everyone but the shareholders. The tech guys, the executives, the managers."
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          +body: "Read the economy and class structure of german fascism if you want a detailed explanation for “scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds”"
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            > And yes, the only pro-Western nation ever falling into a serious Food-Crisis was… Haiti.\n
            \n
            Read Late Victorian Holocausts if you want to be less wrong.\n
            \n
            > Well, actually I am sharing “Wikipedia Propaganda” but if you want to call Wikipedia Nazi-Propaganda…\n
            \n
            The holodomor was originally fabricated by a hearst press associate at a time when Mr Hearst and the third Reich were openly collaborating on spreading nazi propaganda in the US. The famine was bad but the myth that it was a genocide needs to die as it is literally nazi propaganda and was used as a justification for collaborating with the holocaust in Eastern Europe\n
            \n
            This is in fact the mainstream academic position. You may look to Conquest, Davies, and Wheatcroft, who are genuinely anticommunist historians, for their analysis (they all say it wasn’t a genocide)
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            > Because the fraction of the current world that reads every day and learns every day is extremely small.\n
            \n
            Socialist countries are famous for literacy and education drives\n
            \n
            > Again, like I said before, how many people around you come back from work and want to read technical books and watch courses instead of chilling, or hanging out with friends? I have two friends who are nut jobs like me and work all the time. EVERYONE else is lazy and just wants to have fun after work, and that’s in my circle. This spans over decades in the different jobs and sectors I worked at, in different countries. Do you have a different experience around you? I have trouble convincing people to read for 30 minutes every day.\n
            \n
            I dont think it is reasonable to assume humans will act the same way in all conditions. I know people who just slack off, and its generally because there is no incentive not to do the bare minimum when you are alienated from your labor
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            Better to have them making the decision than capitalists, who make more money for paying employees less\n
            \n
            Also who says half of them have to be fired? Can’t everyone just work less?
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            Your only question is “what am I missing” and the answer is an economics education.\n
            \n
            But to address your “concerns” you’re operating on the mindset of maximizing profit to compete against other firms maximizing profit, which is only a problem under capitalism (until you reach the monopoly stage)
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            > Late Victorian Age\n
            \n
            It is literally a book about western liberal democracies committing genocide, including through intentionally creating famines.\n
            \n
            > Oh, and you claim the Holodomor didn’t happen? Well, let me guess, Stalin also didn’t got 30 million sowiet people killed?\n
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            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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          +body: "Read “riding the wave” fo learn about how Scandinavian countries are beneficiaries of the imperialist system"
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            I will repeat:\n
            \n
            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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            > Maybe you’ll change your mind one day and understand why the world we live in is the way we live in.\n
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      Literally sharing nazi propaganda from Hearst press lol\n
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            > But to summarize. You basically want to wreck the current system on the basis that everyone will be diligent, reading all the time, just for the “greater good”, more so than their own profit.\n
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            You’re just literally describing capitalism and being like, what about this problem under socialism? The consequences are youre not contributing. Do you think everyone is suddenly going to be less motivated when they’re actually able to realize the product of their labor, instead of having a parasite on top taking it?
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            Thats it interesting scenario, but why are you assuming that there is a significant segment that won’t want to learn, especially when they’re no longer alienated from their labor? And why are you assuming that the total laborers will increase with new technology, when you can retrain existing workers?\n
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            No, overthrowing capitalism and beginning a transition to a more rational economic system increases your life expectancy. You can literally look up graphs.\n
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            [statista.com/…/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041395/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/)
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          +body: "Yes. All of those countries had more civil rights and longer life expectancy after the revolution"
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            See you’re still trapped within the logic of capitalism which maximizes profits and expansion over other concerns.\n
            \n
            > So, assuming we want to keep everyone (including useless people who’d rather have beer instead of reading a book to learn the new stuff), the income of everyone will just go down over time. Eventually, with no one getting fire there won’t be enough money to go around to feed them. What am I missing here?\n
            \n
            These are all massive assumptions
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            Unfortunately in the case of econ 101, you are taught that 2+2=5 most modern econ is neoclassical, which means operating on pre-marx economics and just ignoring marxist critiques of the political economy.\n
            \n
            > and money falls from the sky, and everyone being lazy leads to growth, I’ll ask them to justify.\n
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            Thats a mighty strawman you invented. Workers are going to do the bare minimum to not get fired when it literally doesn’t matter how much they work, their income will be the same. When workers are invested in an organization, they do more work.
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          +body: "THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves."
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            You literally only have one question, the rest of it is opining.\n
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            You’re assuming a wage labor model and that people working twice as efficiently and at half intensity would result in decreased production.\n
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            1. wage labor models aren’t universal\n
            2. there is no reasoning stated for why production would go down\n
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            You’re assuming people would have to be fired to maintain competitive growth. This is based on the logic of firms competing to capture market share. There isn’t really a rational reason for this to need to happen under systems were the point is to accommodate human need, not to maximize profit.
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          +body: "Do you think the shareholders are active in problem solving? Workers include basically everyone but the shareholders. The tech guys, the executives, the managers."
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          +body: "Read the economy and class structure of german fascism if you want a detailed explanation for “scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds”"
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          +body: """
            > And yes, the only pro-Western nation ever falling into a serious Food-Crisis was… Haiti.\n
            \n
            Read Late Victorian Holocausts if you want to be less wrong.\n
            \n
            > Well, actually I am sharing “Wikipedia Propaganda” but if you want to call Wikipedia Nazi-Propaganda…\n
            \n
            The holodomor was originally fabricated by a hearst press associate at a time when Mr Hearst and the third Reich were openly collaborating on spreading nazi propaganda in the US. The famine was bad but the myth that it was a genocide needs to die as it is literally nazi propaganda and was used as a justification for collaborating with the holocaust in Eastern Europe\n
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            This is in fact the mainstream academic position. You may look to Conquest, Davies, and Wheatcroft, who are genuinely anticommunist historians, for their analysis (they all say it wasn’t a genocide)
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            > Because the fraction of the current world that reads every day and learns every day is extremely small.\n
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            Socialist countries are famous for literacy and education drives\n
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            > Again, like I said before, how many people around you come back from work and want to read technical books and watch courses instead of chilling, or hanging out with friends? I have two friends who are nut jobs like me and work all the time. EVERYONE else is lazy and just wants to have fun after work, and that’s in my circle. This spans over decades in the different jobs and sectors I worked at, in different countries. Do you have a different experience around you? I have trouble convincing people to read for 30 minutes every day.\n
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            Better to have them making the decision than capitalists, who make more money for paying employees less\n
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            Also who says half of them have to be fired? Can’t everyone just work less?
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            Your only question is “what am I missing” and the answer is an economics education.\n
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            But to address your “concerns” you’re operating on the mindset of maximizing profit to compete against other firms maximizing profit, which is only a problem under capitalism (until you reach the monopoly stage)
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            > Late Victorian Age\n
            \n
            It is literally a book about western liberal democracies committing genocide, including through intentionally creating famines.\n
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            > Oh, and you claim the Holodomor didn’t happen? Well, let me guess, Stalin also didn’t got 30 million sowiet people killed?\n
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            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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          +body: "Read “riding the wave” fo learn about how Scandinavian countries are beneficiaries of the imperialist system"
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            I will repeat:\n
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            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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            > Maybe you’ll change your mind one day and understand why the world we live in is the way we live in.\n
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            This from the person who is spouting econ 101 nonsense.
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      Literally sharing nazi propaganda from Hearst press lol\n
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      Anyway, capitalism is known for never having famines or economic crises, especially not cyclical ones
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            > But to summarize. You basically want to wreck the current system on the basis that everyone will be diligent, reading all the time, just for the “greater good”, more so than their own profit.\n
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            No, that’s a strawman. People won’t all be diligent. But they will be more productive in general when they are not alienated from their labor. This has been proven with a bunch of economic data on socialist countries and data on cooperatives even within a capitalist environment.\n
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            > And btw, about the “bare minimum”. No one has a reason to not do the bare minimum as they don’t get fired (consequences). There will always be the lazy guy who does the bare minimum, and everyone will get lazier because they’ll get jealous with zero consequences.\n
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            You’re just literally describing capitalism and being like, what about this problem under socialism? The consequences are youre not contributing. Do you think everyone is suddenly going to be less motivated when they’re actually able to realize the product of their labor, instead of having a parasite on top taking it?
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            Thats it interesting scenario, but why are you assuming that there is a significant segment that won’t want to learn, especially when they’re no longer alienated from their labor? And why are you assuming that the total laborers will increase with new technology, when you can retrain existing workers?\n
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            I dont think your scenario is realistic, it kinda reads as really misanthropic
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            No, overthrowing capitalism and beginning a transition to a more rational economic system increases your life expectancy. You can literally look up graphs.\n
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            [statista.com/…/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041395/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/)
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            See you’re still trapped within the logic of capitalism which maximizes profits and expansion over other concerns.\n
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            > So, assuming we want to keep everyone (including useless people who’d rather have beer instead of reading a book to learn the new stuff), the income of everyone will just go down over time. Eventually, with no one getting fire there won’t be enough money to go around to feed them. What am I missing here?\n
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            These are all massive assumptions
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            Unfortunately in the case of econ 101, you are taught that 2+2=5 most modern econ is neoclassical, which means operating on pre-marx economics and just ignoring marxist critiques of the political economy.\n
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            Thats a mighty strawman you invented. Workers are going to do the bare minimum to not get fired when it literally doesn’t matter how much they work, their income will be the same. When workers are invested in an organization, they do more work.
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          +body: "THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves."
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            Literally sharing nazi propaganda from Hearst press lol\n
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            Anyway, capitalism is known for never having famines or economic crises, especially not cyclical ones
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          +body: "Do you think the shareholders are active in problem solving? Workers include basically everyone but the shareholders. The tech guys, the executives, the managers."
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          +body: "Read the economy and class structure of german fascism if you want a detailed explanation for “scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds”"
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            > And yes, the only pro-Western nation ever falling into a serious Food-Crisis was… Haiti.\n
            \n
            Read Late Victorian Holocausts if you want to be less wrong.\n
            \n
            > Well, actually I am sharing “Wikipedia Propaganda” but if you want to call Wikipedia Nazi-Propaganda…\n
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            The holodomor was originally fabricated by a hearst press associate at a time when Mr Hearst and the third Reich were openly collaborating on spreading nazi propaganda in the US. The famine was bad but the myth that it was a genocide needs to die as it is literally nazi propaganda and was used as a justification for collaborating with the holocaust in Eastern Europe\n
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            This is in fact the mainstream academic position. You may look to Conquest, Davies, and Wheatcroft, who are genuinely anticommunist historians, for their analysis (they all say it wasn’t a genocide)
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            > Because the fraction of the current world that reads every day and learns every day is extremely small.\n
            \n
            Socialist countries are famous for literacy and education drives\n
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            > Again, like I said before, how many people around you come back from work and want to read technical books and watch courses instead of chilling, or hanging out with friends? I have two friends who are nut jobs like me and work all the time. EVERYONE else is lazy and just wants to have fun after work, and that’s in my circle. This spans over decades in the different jobs and sectors I worked at, in different countries. Do you have a different experience around you? I have trouble convincing people to read for 30 minutes every day.\n
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            I dont think it is reasonable to assume humans will act the same way in all conditions. I know people who just slack off, and its generally because there is no incentive not to do the bare minimum when you are alienated from your labor
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            Better to have them making the decision than capitalists, who make more money for paying employees less\n
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            Also who says half of them have to be fired? Can’t everyone just work less?
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            Your only question is “what am I missing” and the answer is an economics education.\n
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            But to address your “concerns” you’re operating on the mindset of maximizing profit to compete against other firms maximizing profit, which is only a problem under capitalism (until you reach the monopoly stage)
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            > Late Victorian Age\n
            \n
            It is literally a book about western liberal democracies committing genocide, including through intentionally creating famines.\n
            \n
            > Oh, and you claim the Holodomor didn’t happen? Well, let me guess, Stalin also didn’t got 30 million sowiet people killed?\n
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            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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            I will repeat:\n
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            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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            > Maybe you’ll change your mind one day and understand why the world we live in is the way we live in.\n
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            This from the person who is spouting econ 101 nonsense.
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      You literally only have one question, the rest of it is opining.\n
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      1. wage labor models aren’t universal\n
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            > But to summarize. You basically want to wreck the current system on the basis that everyone will be diligent, reading all the time, just for the “greater good”, more so than their own profit.\n
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            No, that’s a strawman. People won’t all be diligent. But they will be more productive in general when they are not alienated from their labor. This has been proven with a bunch of economic data on socialist countries and data on cooperatives even within a capitalist environment.\n
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            You’re just literally describing capitalism and being like, what about this problem under socialism? The consequences are youre not contributing. Do you think everyone is suddenly going to be less motivated when they’re actually able to realize the product of their labor, instead of having a parasite on top taking it?
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            Thats it interesting scenario, but why are you assuming that there is a significant segment that won’t want to learn, especially when they’re no longer alienated from their labor? And why are you assuming that the total laborers will increase with new technology, when you can retrain existing workers?\n
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            I dont think your scenario is realistic, it kinda reads as really misanthropic
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            No, overthrowing capitalism and beginning a transition to a more rational economic system increases your life expectancy. You can literally look up graphs.\n
            \n
            [statista.com/…/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041395/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/)
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          +body: "Yes. All of those countries had more civil rights and longer life expectancy after the revolution"
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            See you’re still trapped within the logic of capitalism which maximizes profits and expansion over other concerns.\n
            \n
            > So, assuming we want to keep everyone (including useless people who’d rather have beer instead of reading a book to learn the new stuff), the income of everyone will just go down over time. Eventually, with no one getting fire there won’t be enough money to go around to feed them. What am I missing here?\n
            \n
            These are all massive assumptions
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            Unfortunately in the case of econ 101, you are taught that 2+2=5 most modern econ is neoclassical, which means operating on pre-marx economics and just ignoring marxist critiques of the political economy.\n
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            > and money falls from the sky, and everyone being lazy leads to growth, I’ll ask them to justify.\n
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            Thats a mighty strawman you invented. Workers are going to do the bare minimum to not get fired when it literally doesn’t matter how much they work, their income will be the same. When workers are invested in an organization, they do more work.
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          +body: "THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves."
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            Literally sharing nazi propaganda from Hearst press lol\n
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            Anyway, capitalism is known for never having famines or economic crises, especially not cyclical ones
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          +body: "Do you think the shareholders are active in problem solving? Workers include basically everyone but the shareholders. The tech guys, the executives, the managers."
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          +body: "Read the economy and class structure of german fascism if you want a detailed explanation for “scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds”"
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          +body: """
            > And yes, the only pro-Western nation ever falling into a serious Food-Crisis was… Haiti.\n
            \n
            Read Late Victorian Holocausts if you want to be less wrong.\n
            \n
            > Well, actually I am sharing “Wikipedia Propaganda” but if you want to call Wikipedia Nazi-Propaganda…\n
            \n
            The holodomor was originally fabricated by a hearst press associate at a time when Mr Hearst and the third Reich were openly collaborating on spreading nazi propaganda in the US. The famine was bad but the myth that it was a genocide needs to die as it is literally nazi propaganda and was used as a justification for collaborating with the holocaust in Eastern Europe\n
            \n
            This is in fact the mainstream academic position. You may look to Conquest, Davies, and Wheatcroft, who are genuinely anticommunist historians, for their analysis (they all say it wasn’t a genocide)
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            > Because the fraction of the current world that reads every day and learns every day is extremely small.\n
            \n
            Socialist countries are famous for literacy and education drives\n
            \n
            > Again, like I said before, how many people around you come back from work and want to read technical books and watch courses instead of chilling, or hanging out with friends? I have two friends who are nut jobs like me and work all the time. EVERYONE else is lazy and just wants to have fun after work, and that’s in my circle. This spans over decades in the different jobs and sectors I worked at, in different countries. Do you have a different experience around you? I have trouble convincing people to read for 30 minutes every day.\n
            \n
            I dont think it is reasonable to assume humans will act the same way in all conditions. I know people who just slack off, and its generally because there is no incentive not to do the bare minimum when you are alienated from your labor
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            Better to have them making the decision than capitalists, who make more money for paying employees less\n
            \n
            Also who says half of them have to be fired? Can’t everyone just work less?
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            Your only question is “what am I missing” and the answer is an economics education.\n
            \n
            But to address your “concerns” you’re operating on the mindset of maximizing profit to compete against other firms maximizing profit, which is only a problem under capitalism (until you reach the monopoly stage)
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            > Late Victorian Age\n
            \n
            It is literally a book about western liberal democracies committing genocide, including through intentionally creating famines.\n
            \n
            > Oh, and you claim the Holodomor didn’t happen? Well, let me guess, Stalin also didn’t got 30 million sowiet people killed?\n
            \n
            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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          +body: "Read “riding the wave” fo learn about how Scandinavian countries are beneficiaries of the imperialist system"
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            I will repeat:\n
            \n
            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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            > Maybe you’ll change your mind one day and understand why the world we live in is the way we live in.\n
            \n
            This from the person who is spouting econ 101 nonsense.
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      You literally only have one question, the rest of it is opining.\n
      \n
      You’re assuming a wage labor model and that people working twice as efficiently and at half intensity would result in decreased production.\n
      \n
      1. wage labor models aren’t universal\n
      2. there is no reasoning stated for why production would go down\n
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      You’re assuming people would have to be fired to maintain competitive growth. This is based on the logic of firms competing to capture market share. There isn’t really a rational reason for this to need to happen under systems were the point is to accommodate human need, not to maximize profit.
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            > But to summarize. You basically want to wreck the current system on the basis that everyone will be diligent, reading all the time, just for the “greater good”, more so than their own profit.\n
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            No, that’s a strawman. People won’t all be diligent. But they will be more productive in general when they are not alienated from their labor. This has been proven with a bunch of economic data on socialist countries and data on cooperatives even within a capitalist environment.\n
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            > And btw, about the “bare minimum”. No one has a reason to not do the bare minimum as they don’t get fired (consequences). There will always be the lazy guy who does the bare minimum, and everyone will get lazier because they’ll get jealous with zero consequences.\n
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            You’re just literally describing capitalism and being like, what about this problem under socialism? The consequences are youre not contributing. Do you think everyone is suddenly going to be less motivated when they’re actually able to realize the product of their labor, instead of having a parasite on top taking it?
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            Thats it interesting scenario, but why are you assuming that there is a significant segment that won’t want to learn, especially when they’re no longer alienated from their labor? And why are you assuming that the total laborers will increase with new technology, when you can retrain existing workers?\n
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            I dont think your scenario is realistic, it kinda reads as really misanthropic
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            No, overthrowing capitalism and beginning a transition to a more rational economic system increases your life expectancy. You can literally look up graphs.\n
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            [statista.com/…/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041395/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/)
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          +body: "Yes. All of those countries had more civil rights and longer life expectancy after the revolution"
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            See you’re still trapped within the logic of capitalism which maximizes profits and expansion over other concerns.\n
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            > So, assuming we want to keep everyone (including useless people who’d rather have beer instead of reading a book to learn the new stuff), the income of everyone will just go down over time. Eventually, with no one getting fire there won’t be enough money to go around to feed them. What am I missing here?\n
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            These are all massive assumptions
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            Unfortunately in the case of econ 101, you are taught that 2+2=5 most modern econ is neoclassical, which means operating on pre-marx economics and just ignoring marxist critiques of the political economy.\n
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            > and money falls from the sky, and everyone being lazy leads to growth, I’ll ask them to justify.\n
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            Thats a mighty strawman you invented. Workers are going to do the bare minimum to not get fired when it literally doesn’t matter how much they work, their income will be the same. When workers are invested in an organization, they do more work.
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          +body: "THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves."
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            Literally sharing nazi propaganda from Hearst press lol\n
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            Anyway, capitalism is known for never having famines or economic crises, especially not cyclical ones
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          +body: "Do you think the shareholders are active in problem solving? Workers include basically everyone but the shareholders. The tech guys, the executives, the managers."
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          +body: "Read the economy and class structure of german fascism if you want a detailed explanation for “scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds”"
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            > And yes, the only pro-Western nation ever falling into a serious Food-Crisis was… Haiti.\n
            \n
            Read Late Victorian Holocausts if you want to be less wrong.\n
            \n
            > Well, actually I am sharing “Wikipedia Propaganda” but if you want to call Wikipedia Nazi-Propaganda…\n
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            The holodomor was originally fabricated by a hearst press associate at a time when Mr Hearst and the third Reich were openly collaborating on spreading nazi propaganda in the US. The famine was bad but the myth that it was a genocide needs to die as it is literally nazi propaganda and was used as a justification for collaborating with the holocaust in Eastern Europe\n
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            This is in fact the mainstream academic position. You may look to Conquest, Davies, and Wheatcroft, who are genuinely anticommunist historians, for their analysis (they all say it wasn’t a genocide)
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            > Because the fraction of the current world that reads every day and learns every day is extremely small.\n
            \n
            Socialist countries are famous for literacy and education drives\n
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            > Again, like I said before, how many people around you come back from work and want to read technical books and watch courses instead of chilling, or hanging out with friends? I have two friends who are nut jobs like me and work all the time. EVERYONE else is lazy and just wants to have fun after work, and that’s in my circle. This spans over decades in the different jobs and sectors I worked at, in different countries. Do you have a different experience around you? I have trouble convincing people to read for 30 minutes every day.\n
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            I dont think it is reasonable to assume humans will act the same way in all conditions. I know people who just slack off, and its generally because there is no incentive not to do the bare minimum when you are alienated from your labor
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            Better to have them making the decision than capitalists, who make more money for paying employees less\n
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            Also who says half of them have to be fired? Can’t everyone just work less?
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            Your only question is “what am I missing” and the answer is an economics education.\n
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            But to address your “concerns” you’re operating on the mindset of maximizing profit to compete against other firms maximizing profit, which is only a problem under capitalism (until you reach the monopoly stage)
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            > Late Victorian Age\n
            \n
            It is literally a book about western liberal democracies committing genocide, including through intentionally creating famines.\n
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            > Oh, and you claim the Holodomor didn’t happen? Well, let me guess, Stalin also didn’t got 30 million sowiet people killed?\n
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            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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            > Maybe you’ll change your mind one day and understand why the world we live in is the way we live in.\n
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            This from the person who is spouting econ 101 nonsense.
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      1. wage labor models aren’t universal\n
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            > But to summarize. You basically want to wreck the current system on the basis that everyone will be diligent, reading all the time, just for the “greater good”, more so than their own profit.\n
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            Thats it interesting scenario, but why are you assuming that there is a significant segment that won’t want to learn, especially when they’re no longer alienated from their labor? And why are you assuming that the total laborers will increase with new technology, when you can retrain existing workers?\n
            \n
            I dont think your scenario is realistic, it kinda reads as really misanthropic
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            No, overthrowing capitalism and beginning a transition to a more rational economic system increases your life expectancy. You can literally look up graphs.\n
            \n
            [statista.com/…/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041395/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/)
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          +body: "Yes. All of those countries had more civil rights and longer life expectancy after the revolution"
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            See you’re still trapped within the logic of capitalism which maximizes profits and expansion over other concerns.\n
            \n
            > So, assuming we want to keep everyone (including useless people who’d rather have beer instead of reading a book to learn the new stuff), the income of everyone will just go down over time. Eventually, with no one getting fire there won’t be enough money to go around to feed them. What am I missing here?\n
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            These are all massive assumptions
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            Unfortunately in the case of econ 101, you are taught that 2+2=5 most modern econ is neoclassical, which means operating on pre-marx economics and just ignoring marxist critiques of the political economy.\n
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            > and money falls from the sky, and everyone being lazy leads to growth, I’ll ask them to justify.\n
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            Thats a mighty strawman you invented. Workers are going to do the bare minimum to not get fired when it literally doesn’t matter how much they work, their income will be the same. When workers are invested in an organization, they do more work.
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          +body: "THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves."
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            Literally sharing nazi propaganda from Hearst press lol\n
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            Anyway, capitalism is known for never having famines or economic crises, especially not cyclical ones
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          +body: "Read the economy and class structure of german fascism if you want a detailed explanation for “scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds”"
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            > And yes, the only pro-Western nation ever falling into a serious Food-Crisis was… Haiti.\n
            \n
            Read Late Victorian Holocausts if you want to be less wrong.\n
            \n
            > Well, actually I am sharing “Wikipedia Propaganda” but if you want to call Wikipedia Nazi-Propaganda…\n
            \n
            The holodomor was originally fabricated by a hearst press associate at a time when Mr Hearst and the third Reich were openly collaborating on spreading nazi propaganda in the US. The famine was bad but the myth that it was a genocide needs to die as it is literally nazi propaganda and was used as a justification for collaborating with the holocaust in Eastern Europe\n
            \n
            This is in fact the mainstream academic position. You may look to Conquest, Davies, and Wheatcroft, who are genuinely anticommunist historians, for their analysis (they all say it wasn’t a genocide)
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            > Because the fraction of the current world that reads every day and learns every day is extremely small.\n
            \n
            Socialist countries are famous for literacy and education drives\n
            \n
            > Again, like I said before, how many people around you come back from work and want to read technical books and watch courses instead of chilling, or hanging out with friends? I have two friends who are nut jobs like me and work all the time. EVERYONE else is lazy and just wants to have fun after work, and that’s in my circle. This spans over decades in the different jobs and sectors I worked at, in different countries. Do you have a different experience around you? I have trouble convincing people to read for 30 minutes every day.\n
            \n
            I dont think it is reasonable to assume humans will act the same way in all conditions. I know people who just slack off, and its generally because there is no incentive not to do the bare minimum when you are alienated from your labor
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            Better to have them making the decision than capitalists, who make more money for paying employees less\n
            \n
            Also who says half of them have to be fired? Can’t everyone just work less?
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            Your only question is “what am I missing” and the answer is an economics education.\n
            \n
            But to address your “concerns” you’re operating on the mindset of maximizing profit to compete against other firms maximizing profit, which is only a problem under capitalism (until you reach the monopoly stage)
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            > Late Victorian Age\n
            \n
            It is literally a book about western liberal democracies committing genocide, including through intentionally creating famines.\n
            \n
            > Oh, and you claim the Holodomor didn’t happen? Well, let me guess, Stalin also didn’t got 30 million sowiet people killed?\n
            \n
            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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          +body: "Read “riding the wave” fo learn about how Scandinavian countries are beneficiaries of the imperialist system"
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            I will repeat:\n
            \n
            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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            > Maybe you’ll change your mind one day and understand why the world we live in is the way we live in.\n
            \n
            This from the person who is spouting econ 101 nonsense.
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      You literally only have one question, the rest of it is opining.\n
      \n
      You’re assuming a wage labor model and that people working twice as efficiently and at half intensity would result in decreased production.\n
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      1. wage labor models aren’t universal\n
      2. there is no reasoning stated for why production would go down\n
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      You’re assuming people would have to be fired to maintain competitive growth. This is based on the logic of firms competing to capture market share. There isn’t really a rational reason for this to need to happen under systems were the point is to accommodate human need, not to maximize profit.
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            > But to summarize. You basically want to wreck the current system on the basis that everyone will be diligent, reading all the time, just for the “greater good”, more so than their own profit.\n
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            You’re just literally describing capitalism and being like, what about this problem under socialism? The consequences are youre not contributing. Do you think everyone is suddenly going to be less motivated when they’re actually able to realize the product of their labor, instead of having a parasite on top taking it?
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            Thats it interesting scenario, but why are you assuming that there is a significant segment that won’t want to learn, especially when they’re no longer alienated from their labor? And why are you assuming that the total laborers will increase with new technology, when you can retrain existing workers?\n
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            No, overthrowing capitalism and beginning a transition to a more rational economic system increases your life expectancy. You can literally look up graphs.\n
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            [statista.com/…/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041395/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/)
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          +body: "Yes. All of those countries had more civil rights and longer life expectancy after the revolution"
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            See you’re still trapped within the logic of capitalism which maximizes profits and expansion over other concerns.\n
            \n
            > So, assuming we want to keep everyone (including useless people who’d rather have beer instead of reading a book to learn the new stuff), the income of everyone will just go down over time. Eventually, with no one getting fire there won’t be enough money to go around to feed them. What am I missing here?\n
            \n
            These are all massive assumptions
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            Unfortunately in the case of econ 101, you are taught that 2+2=5 most modern econ is neoclassical, which means operating on pre-marx economics and just ignoring marxist critiques of the political economy.\n
            \n
            > and money falls from the sky, and everyone being lazy leads to growth, I’ll ask them to justify.\n
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            Thats a mighty strawman you invented. Workers are going to do the bare minimum to not get fired when it literally doesn’t matter how much they work, their income will be the same. When workers are invested in an organization, they do more work.
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          +body: "THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves."
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            Literally sharing nazi propaganda from Hearst press lol\n
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            Anyway, capitalism is known for never having famines or economic crises, especially not cyclical ones
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          +body: "Do you think the shareholders are active in problem solving? Workers include basically everyone but the shareholders. The tech guys, the executives, the managers."
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          +body: "Read the economy and class structure of german fascism if you want a detailed explanation for “scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds”"
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            > And yes, the only pro-Western nation ever falling into a serious Food-Crisis was… Haiti.\n
            \n
            Read Late Victorian Holocausts if you want to be less wrong.\n
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            > Well, actually I am sharing “Wikipedia Propaganda” but if you want to call Wikipedia Nazi-Propaganda…\n
            \n
            The holodomor was originally fabricated by a hearst press associate at a time when Mr Hearst and the third Reich were openly collaborating on spreading nazi propaganda in the US. The famine was bad but the myth that it was a genocide needs to die as it is literally nazi propaganda and was used as a justification for collaborating with the holocaust in Eastern Europe\n
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            This is in fact the mainstream academic position. You may look to Conquest, Davies, and Wheatcroft, who are genuinely anticommunist historians, for their analysis (they all say it wasn’t a genocide)
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            > Because the fraction of the current world that reads every day and learns every day is extremely small.\n
            \n
            Socialist countries are famous for literacy and education drives\n
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            > Again, like I said before, how many people around you come back from work and want to read technical books and watch courses instead of chilling, or hanging out with friends? I have two friends who are nut jobs like me and work all the time. EVERYONE else is lazy and just wants to have fun after work, and that’s in my circle. This spans over decades in the different jobs and sectors I worked at, in different countries. Do you have a different experience around you? I have trouble convincing people to read for 30 minutes every day.\n
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            I dont think it is reasonable to assume humans will act the same way in all conditions. I know people who just slack off, and its generally because there is no incentive not to do the bare minimum when you are alienated from your labor
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            Better to have them making the decision than capitalists, who make more money for paying employees less\n
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            Also who says half of them have to be fired? Can’t everyone just work less?
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            Your only question is “what am I missing” and the answer is an economics education.\n
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            But to address your “concerns” you’re operating on the mindset of maximizing profit to compete against other firms maximizing profit, which is only a problem under capitalism (until you reach the monopoly stage)
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            > Late Victorian Age\n
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            It is literally a book about western liberal democracies committing genocide, including through intentionally creating famines.\n
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            > Oh, and you claim the Holodomor didn’t happen? Well, let me guess, Stalin also didn’t got 30 million sowiet people killed?\n
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            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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          +body: "Read “riding the wave” fo learn about how Scandinavian countries are beneficiaries of the imperialist system"
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            > Maybe you’ll change your mind one day and understand why the world we live in is the way we live in.\n
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            This from the person who is spouting econ 101 nonsense.
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      You literally only have one question, the rest of it is opining.\n
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      1. wage labor models aren’t universal\n
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            > But to summarize. You basically want to wreck the current system on the basis that everyone will be diligent, reading all the time, just for the “greater good”, more so than their own profit.\n
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            No, that’s a strawman. People won’t all be diligent. But they will be more productive in general when they are not alienated from their labor. This has been proven with a bunch of economic data on socialist countries and data on cooperatives even within a capitalist environment.\n
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            > And btw, about the “bare minimum”. No one has a reason to not do the bare minimum as they don’t get fired (consequences). There will always be the lazy guy who does the bare minimum, and everyone will get lazier because they’ll get jealous with zero consequences.\n
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            You’re just literally describing capitalism and being like, what about this problem under socialism? The consequences are youre not contributing. Do you think everyone is suddenly going to be less motivated when they’re actually able to realize the product of their labor, instead of having a parasite on top taking it?
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            Thats it interesting scenario, but why are you assuming that there is a significant segment that won’t want to learn, especially when they’re no longer alienated from their labor? And why are you assuming that the total laborers will increase with new technology, when you can retrain existing workers?\n
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            I dont think your scenario is realistic, it kinda reads as really misanthropic
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            No, overthrowing capitalism and beginning a transition to a more rational economic system increases your life expectancy. You can literally look up graphs.\n
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            [statista.com/…/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041395/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/)
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          +body: "Yes. All of those countries had more civil rights and longer life expectancy after the revolution"
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            See you’re still trapped within the logic of capitalism which maximizes profits and expansion over other concerns.\n
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            > So, assuming we want to keep everyone (including useless people who’d rather have beer instead of reading a book to learn the new stuff), the income of everyone will just go down over time. Eventually, with no one getting fire there won’t be enough money to go around to feed them. What am I missing here?\n
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            These are all massive assumptions
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            Unfortunately in the case of econ 101, you are taught that 2+2=5 most modern econ is neoclassical, which means operating on pre-marx economics and just ignoring marxist critiques of the political economy.\n
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            > and money falls from the sky, and everyone being lazy leads to growth, I’ll ask them to justify.\n
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            Thats a mighty strawman you invented. Workers are going to do the bare minimum to not get fired when it literally doesn’t matter how much they work, their income will be the same. When workers are invested in an organization, they do more work.
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          +body: "THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves."
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            Literally sharing nazi propaganda from Hearst press lol\n
            \n
            Anyway, capitalism is known for never having famines or economic crises, especially not cyclical ones
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          +body: "Do you think the shareholders are active in problem solving? Workers include basically everyone but the shareholders. The tech guys, the executives, the managers."
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          +body: "Read the economy and class structure of german fascism if you want a detailed explanation for “scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds”"
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            > And yes, the only pro-Western nation ever falling into a serious Food-Crisis was… Haiti.\n
            \n
            Read Late Victorian Holocausts if you want to be less wrong.\n
            \n
            > Well, actually I am sharing “Wikipedia Propaganda” but if you want to call Wikipedia Nazi-Propaganda…\n
            \n
            The holodomor was originally fabricated by a hearst press associate at a time when Mr Hearst and the third Reich were openly collaborating on spreading nazi propaganda in the US. The famine was bad but the myth that it was a genocide needs to die as it is literally nazi propaganda and was used as a justification for collaborating with the holocaust in Eastern Europe\n
            \n
            This is in fact the mainstream academic position. You may look to Conquest, Davies, and Wheatcroft, who are genuinely anticommunist historians, for their analysis (they all say it wasn’t a genocide)
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            > Because the fraction of the current world that reads every day and learns every day is extremely small.\n
            \n
            Socialist countries are famous for literacy and education drives\n
            \n
            > Again, like I said before, how many people around you come back from work and want to read technical books and watch courses instead of chilling, or hanging out with friends? I have two friends who are nut jobs like me and work all the time. EVERYONE else is lazy and just wants to have fun after work, and that’s in my circle. This spans over decades in the different jobs and sectors I worked at, in different countries. Do you have a different experience around you? I have trouble convincing people to read for 30 minutes every day.\n
            \n
            I dont think it is reasonable to assume humans will act the same way in all conditions. I know people who just slack off, and its generally because there is no incentive not to do the bare minimum when you are alienated from your labor
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            Better to have them making the decision than capitalists, who make more money for paying employees less\n
            \n
            Also who says half of them have to be fired? Can’t everyone just work less?
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            Your only question is “what am I missing” and the answer is an economics education.\n
            \n
            But to address your “concerns” you’re operating on the mindset of maximizing profit to compete against other firms maximizing profit, which is only a problem under capitalism (until you reach the monopoly stage)
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            > Late Victorian Age\n
            \n
            It is literally a book about western liberal democracies committing genocide, including through intentionally creating famines.\n
            \n
            > Oh, and you claim the Holodomor didn’t happen? Well, let me guess, Stalin also didn’t got 30 million sowiet people killed?\n
            \n
            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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          +body: "Read “riding the wave” fo learn about how Scandinavian countries are beneficiaries of the imperialist system"
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            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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            > Maybe you’ll change your mind one day and understand why the world we live in is the way we live in.\n
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            This from the person who is spouting econ 101 nonsense.
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      You literally only have one question, the rest of it is opining.\n
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      You’re assuming a wage labor model and that people working twice as efficiently and at half intensity would result in decreased production.\n
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      1. wage labor models aren’t universal\n
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            > But to summarize. You basically want to wreck the current system on the basis that everyone will be diligent, reading all the time, just for the “greater good”, more so than their own profit.\n
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            You’re just literally describing capitalism and being like, what about this problem under socialism? The consequences are youre not contributing. Do you think everyone is suddenly going to be less motivated when they’re actually able to realize the product of their labor, instead of having a parasite on top taking it?
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            Thats it interesting scenario, but why are you assuming that there is a significant segment that won’t want to learn, especially when they’re no longer alienated from their labor? And why are you assuming that the total laborers will increase with new technology, when you can retrain existing workers?\n
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            No, overthrowing capitalism and beginning a transition to a more rational economic system increases your life expectancy. You can literally look up graphs.\n
            \n
            [statista.com/…/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041395/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/)
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          +body: "Yes. All of those countries had more civil rights and longer life expectancy after the revolution"
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            See you’re still trapped within the logic of capitalism which maximizes profits and expansion over other concerns.\n
            \n
            > So, assuming we want to keep everyone (including useless people who’d rather have beer instead of reading a book to learn the new stuff), the income of everyone will just go down over time. Eventually, with no one getting fire there won’t be enough money to go around to feed them. What am I missing here?\n
            \n
            These are all massive assumptions
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            Unfortunately in the case of econ 101, you are taught that 2+2=5 most modern econ is neoclassical, which means operating on pre-marx economics and just ignoring marxist critiques of the political economy.\n
            \n
            > and money falls from the sky, and everyone being lazy leads to growth, I’ll ask them to justify.\n
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            Thats a mighty strawman you invented. Workers are going to do the bare minimum to not get fired when it literally doesn’t matter how much they work, their income will be the same. When workers are invested in an organization, they do more work.
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          +body: "THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves."
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            Literally sharing nazi propaganda from Hearst press lol\n
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            Anyway, capitalism is known for never having famines or economic crises, especially not cyclical ones
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            You literally only have one question, the rest of it is opining.\n
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            You’re assuming a wage labor model and that people working twice as efficiently and at half intensity would result in decreased production.\n
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            1. wage labor models aren’t universal\n
            2. there is no reasoning stated for why production would go down\n
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            You’re assuming people would have to be fired to maintain competitive growth. This is based on the logic of firms competing to capture market share. There isn’t really a rational reason for this to need to happen under systems were the point is to accommodate human need, not to maximize profit.
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          +body: "Read the economy and class structure of german fascism if you want a detailed explanation for “scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds”"
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            > And yes, the only pro-Western nation ever falling into a serious Food-Crisis was… Haiti.\n
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            Read Late Victorian Holocausts if you want to be less wrong.\n
            \n
            > Well, actually I am sharing “Wikipedia Propaganda” but if you want to call Wikipedia Nazi-Propaganda…\n
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            The holodomor was originally fabricated by a hearst press associate at a time when Mr Hearst and the third Reich were openly collaborating on spreading nazi propaganda in the US. The famine was bad but the myth that it was a genocide needs to die as it is literally nazi propaganda and was used as a justification for collaborating with the holocaust in Eastern Europe\n
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            This is in fact the mainstream academic position. You may look to Conquest, Davies, and Wheatcroft, who are genuinely anticommunist historians, for their analysis (they all say it wasn’t a genocide)
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            > Because the fraction of the current world that reads every day and learns every day is extremely small.\n
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            Socialist countries are famous for literacy and education drives\n
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            > Again, like I said before, how many people around you come back from work and want to read technical books and watch courses instead of chilling, or hanging out with friends? I have two friends who are nut jobs like me and work all the time. EVERYONE else is lazy and just wants to have fun after work, and that’s in my circle. This spans over decades in the different jobs and sectors I worked at, in different countries. Do you have a different experience around you? I have trouble convincing people to read for 30 minutes every day.\n
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            I dont think it is reasonable to assume humans will act the same way in all conditions. I know people who just slack off, and its generally because there is no incentive not to do the bare minimum when you are alienated from your labor
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            Better to have them making the decision than capitalists, who make more money for paying employees less\n
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            Also who says half of them have to be fired? Can’t everyone just work less?
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            Your only question is “what am I missing” and the answer is an economics education.\n
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            But to address your “concerns” you’re operating on the mindset of maximizing profit to compete against other firms maximizing profit, which is only a problem under capitalism (until you reach the monopoly stage)
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            > Late Victorian Age\n
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            It is literally a book about western liberal democracies committing genocide, including through intentionally creating famines.\n
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            > Oh, and you claim the Holodomor didn’t happen? Well, let me guess, Stalin also didn’t got 30 million sowiet people killed?\n
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            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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          +body: "Read “riding the wave” fo learn about how Scandinavian countries are beneficiaries of the imperialist system"
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            I will repeat:\n
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            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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            > Maybe you’ll change your mind one day and understand why the world we live in is the way we live in.\n
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            This from the person who is spouting econ 101 nonsense.
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            > But to summarize. You basically want to wreck the current system on the basis that everyone will be diligent, reading all the time, just for the “greater good”, more so than their own profit.\n
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            No, that’s a strawman. People won’t all be diligent. But they will be more productive in general when they are not alienated from their labor. This has been proven with a bunch of economic data on socialist countries and data on cooperatives even within a capitalist environment.\n
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            > And btw, about the “bare minimum”. No one has a reason to not do the bare minimum as they don’t get fired (consequences). There will always be the lazy guy who does the bare minimum, and everyone will get lazier because they’ll get jealous with zero consequences.\n
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            You’re just literally describing capitalism and being like, what about this problem under socialism? The consequences are youre not contributing. Do you think everyone is suddenly going to be less motivated when they’re actually able to realize the product of their labor, instead of having a parasite on top taking it?
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            Thats it interesting scenario, but why are you assuming that there is a significant segment that won’t want to learn, especially when they’re no longer alienated from their labor? And why are you assuming that the total laborers will increase with new technology, when you can retrain existing workers?\n
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            I dont think your scenario is realistic, it kinda reads as really misanthropic
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            No, overthrowing capitalism and beginning a transition to a more rational economic system increases your life expectancy. You can literally look up graphs.\n
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            [statista.com/…/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041395/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/)
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            See you’re still trapped within the logic of capitalism which maximizes profits and expansion over other concerns.\n
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            > So, assuming we want to keep everyone (including useless people who’d rather have beer instead of reading a book to learn the new stuff), the income of everyone will just go down over time. Eventually, with no one getting fire there won’t be enough money to go around to feed them. What am I missing here?\n
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            These are all massive assumptions
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            Unfortunately in the case of econ 101, you are taught that 2+2=5 most modern econ is neoclassical, which means operating on pre-marx economics and just ignoring marxist critiques of the political economy.\n
            \n
            > and money falls from the sky, and everyone being lazy leads to growth, I’ll ask them to justify.\n
            \n
            Thats a mighty strawman you invented. Workers are going to do the bare minimum to not get fired when it literally doesn’t matter how much they work, their income will be the same. When workers are invested in an organization, they do more work.
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          +body: "THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves."
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            Literally sharing nazi propaganda from Hearst press lol\n
            \n
            Anyway, capitalism is known for never having famines or economic crises, especially not cyclical ones
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            You literally only have one question, the rest of it is opining.\n
            \n
            You’re assuming a wage labor model and that people working twice as efficiently and at half intensity would result in decreased production.\n
            \n
            1. wage labor models aren’t universal\n
            2. there is no reasoning stated for why production would go down\n
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            You’re assuming people would have to be fired to maintain competitive growth. This is based on the logic of firms competing to capture market share. There isn’t really a rational reason for this to need to happen under systems were the point is to accommodate human need, not to maximize profit.
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          +body: "Read the economy and class structure of german fascism if you want a detailed explanation for “scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds”"
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          +body: """
            > And yes, the only pro-Western nation ever falling into a serious Food-Crisis was… Haiti.\n
            \n
            Read Late Victorian Holocausts if you want to be less wrong.\n
            \n
            > Well, actually I am sharing “Wikipedia Propaganda” but if you want to call Wikipedia Nazi-Propaganda…\n
            \n
            The holodomor was originally fabricated by a hearst press associate at a time when Mr Hearst and the third Reich were openly collaborating on spreading nazi propaganda in the US. The famine was bad but the myth that it was a genocide needs to die as it is literally nazi propaganda and was used as a justification for collaborating with the holocaust in Eastern Europe\n
            \n
            This is in fact the mainstream academic position. You may look to Conquest, Davies, and Wheatcroft, who are genuinely anticommunist historians, for their analysis (they all say it wasn’t a genocide)
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            > Because the fraction of the current world that reads every day and learns every day is extremely small.\n
            \n
            Socialist countries are famous for literacy and education drives\n
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            > Again, like I said before, how many people around you come back from work and want to read technical books and watch courses instead of chilling, or hanging out with friends? I have two friends who are nut jobs like me and work all the time. EVERYONE else is lazy and just wants to have fun after work, and that’s in my circle. This spans over decades in the different jobs and sectors I worked at, in different countries. Do you have a different experience around you? I have trouble convincing people to read for 30 minutes every day.\n
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            I dont think it is reasonable to assume humans will act the same way in all conditions. I know people who just slack off, and its generally because there is no incentive not to do the bare minimum when you are alienated from your labor
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            Better to have them making the decision than capitalists, who make more money for paying employees less\n
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            Also who says half of them have to be fired? Can’t everyone just work less?
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            Your only question is “what am I missing” and the answer is an economics education.\n
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            But to address your “concerns” you’re operating on the mindset of maximizing profit to compete against other firms maximizing profit, which is only a problem under capitalism (until you reach the monopoly stage)
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            > Late Victorian Age\n
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            It is literally a book about western liberal democracies committing genocide, including through intentionally creating famines.\n
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            > Oh, and you claim the Holodomor didn’t happen? Well, let me guess, Stalin also didn’t got 30 million sowiet people killed?\n
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            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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            > Maybe you’ll change your mind one day and understand why the world we live in is the way we live in.\n
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            > But to summarize. You basically want to wreck the current system on the basis that everyone will be diligent, reading all the time, just for the “greater good”, more so than their own profit.\n
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            No, that’s a strawman. People won’t all be diligent. But they will be more productive in general when they are not alienated from their labor. This has been proven with a bunch of economic data on socialist countries and data on cooperatives even within a capitalist environment.\n
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            You’re just literally describing capitalism and being like, what about this problem under socialism? The consequences are youre not contributing. Do you think everyone is suddenly going to be less motivated when they’re actually able to realize the product of their labor, instead of having a parasite on top taking it?
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            Thats it interesting scenario, but why are you assuming that there is a significant segment that won’t want to learn, especially when they’re no longer alienated from their labor? And why are you assuming that the total laborers will increase with new technology, when you can retrain existing workers?\n
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            I dont think your scenario is realistic, it kinda reads as really misanthropic
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            No, overthrowing capitalism and beginning a transition to a more rational economic system increases your life expectancy. You can literally look up graphs.\n
            \n
            [statista.com/…/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041395/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/)
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          +body: "Yes. All of those countries had more civil rights and longer life expectancy after the revolution"
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            See you’re still trapped within the logic of capitalism which maximizes profits and expansion over other concerns.\n
            \n
            > So, assuming we want to keep everyone (including useless people who’d rather have beer instead of reading a book to learn the new stuff), the income of everyone will just go down over time. Eventually, with no one getting fire there won’t be enough money to go around to feed them. What am I missing here?\n
            \n
            These are all massive assumptions
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            Unfortunately in the case of econ 101, you are taught that 2+2=5 most modern econ is neoclassical, which means operating on pre-marx economics and just ignoring marxist critiques of the political economy.\n
            \n
            > and money falls from the sky, and everyone being lazy leads to growth, I’ll ask them to justify.\n
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            Thats a mighty strawman you invented. Workers are going to do the bare minimum to not get fired when it literally doesn’t matter how much they work, their income will be the same. When workers are invested in an organization, they do more work.
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          +body: "THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves."
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            Literally sharing nazi propaganda from Hearst press lol\n
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            Anyway, capitalism is known for never having famines or economic crises, especially not cyclical ones
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            You literally only have one question, the rest of it is opining.\n
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            You’re assuming a wage labor model and that people working twice as efficiently and at half intensity would result in decreased production.\n
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            1. wage labor models aren’t universal\n
            2. there is no reasoning stated for why production would go down\n
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            You’re assuming people would have to be fired to maintain competitive growth. This is based on the logic of firms competing to capture market share. There isn’t really a rational reason for this to need to happen under systems were the point is to accommodate human need, not to maximize profit.
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          +body: "Read the economy and class structure of german fascism if you want a detailed explanation for “scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds”"
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            > And yes, the only pro-Western nation ever falling into a serious Food-Crisis was… Haiti.\n
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            Read Late Victorian Holocausts if you want to be less wrong.\n
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            > Well, actually I am sharing “Wikipedia Propaganda” but if you want to call Wikipedia Nazi-Propaganda…\n
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            The holodomor was originally fabricated by a hearst press associate at a time when Mr Hearst and the third Reich were openly collaborating on spreading nazi propaganda in the US. The famine was bad but the myth that it was a genocide needs to die as it is literally nazi propaganda and was used as a justification for collaborating with the holocaust in Eastern Europe\n
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            This is in fact the mainstream academic position. You may look to Conquest, Davies, and Wheatcroft, who are genuinely anticommunist historians, for their analysis (they all say it wasn’t a genocide)
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            > Because the fraction of the current world that reads every day and learns every day is extremely small.\n
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            Socialist countries are famous for literacy and education drives\n
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            > Again, like I said before, how many people around you come back from work and want to read technical books and watch courses instead of chilling, or hanging out with friends? I have two friends who are nut jobs like me and work all the time. EVERYONE else is lazy and just wants to have fun after work, and that’s in my circle. This spans over decades in the different jobs and sectors I worked at, in different countries. Do you have a different experience around you? I have trouble convincing people to read for 30 minutes every day.\n
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            I dont think it is reasonable to assume humans will act the same way in all conditions. I know people who just slack off, and its generally because there is no incentive not to do the bare minimum when you are alienated from your labor
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            Better to have them making the decision than capitalists, who make more money for paying employees less\n
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            Also who says half of them have to be fired? Can’t everyone just work less?
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            Your only question is “what am I missing” and the answer is an economics education.\n
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            But to address your “concerns” you’re operating on the mindset of maximizing profit to compete against other firms maximizing profit, which is only a problem under capitalism (until you reach the monopoly stage)
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            > Late Victorian Age\n
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            It is literally a book about western liberal democracies committing genocide, including through intentionally creating famines.\n
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            > Oh, and you claim the Holodomor didn’t happen? Well, let me guess, Stalin also didn’t got 30 million sowiet people killed?\n
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            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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          +body: "Read “riding the wave” fo learn about how Scandinavian countries are beneficiaries of the imperialist system"
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            I will repeat:\n
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            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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            > Maybe you’ll change your mind one day and understand why the world we live in is the way we live in.\n
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            This from the person who is spouting econ 101 nonsense.
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            > But to summarize. You basically want to wreck the current system on the basis that everyone will be diligent, reading all the time, just for the “greater good”, more so than their own profit.\n
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            No, that’s a strawman. People won’t all be diligent. But they will be more productive in general when they are not alienated from their labor. This has been proven with a bunch of economic data on socialist countries and data on cooperatives even within a capitalist environment.\n
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            > And btw, about the “bare minimum”. No one has a reason to not do the bare minimum as they don’t get fired (consequences). There will always be the lazy guy who does the bare minimum, and everyone will get lazier because they’ll get jealous with zero consequences.\n
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            You’re just literally describing capitalism and being like, what about this problem under socialism? The consequences are youre not contributing. Do you think everyone is suddenly going to be less motivated when they’re actually able to realize the product of their labor, instead of having a parasite on top taking it?
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            Thats it interesting scenario, but why are you assuming that there is a significant segment that won’t want to learn, especially when they’re no longer alienated from their labor? And why are you assuming that the total laborers will increase with new technology, when you can retrain existing workers?\n
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            I dont think your scenario is realistic, it kinda reads as really misanthropic
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            No, overthrowing capitalism and beginning a transition to a more rational economic system increases your life expectancy. You can literally look up graphs.\n
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            [statista.com/…/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041395/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/)
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            See you’re still trapped within the logic of capitalism which maximizes profits and expansion over other concerns.\n
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            > So, assuming we want to keep everyone (including useless people who’d rather have beer instead of reading a book to learn the new stuff), the income of everyone will just go down over time. Eventually, with no one getting fire there won’t be enough money to go around to feed them. What am I missing here?\n
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            These are all massive assumptions
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            Unfortunately in the case of econ 101, you are taught that 2+2=5 most modern econ is neoclassical, which means operating on pre-marx economics and just ignoring marxist critiques of the political economy.\n
            \n
            > and money falls from the sky, and everyone being lazy leads to growth, I’ll ask them to justify.\n
            \n
            Thats a mighty strawman you invented. Workers are going to do the bare minimum to not get fired when it literally doesn’t matter how much they work, their income will be the same. When workers are invested in an organization, they do more work.
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          +body: "THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves."
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            Literally sharing nazi propaganda from Hearst press lol\n
            \n
            Anyway, capitalism is known for never having famines or economic crises, especially not cyclical ones
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            You literally only have one question, the rest of it is opining.\n
            \n
            You’re assuming a wage labor model and that people working twice as efficiently and at half intensity would result in decreased production.\n
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            1. wage labor models aren’t universal\n
            2. there is no reasoning stated for why production would go down\n
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            You’re assuming people would have to be fired to maintain competitive growth. This is based on the logic of firms competing to capture market share. There isn’t really a rational reason for this to need to happen under systems were the point is to accommodate human need, not to maximize profit.
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          +body: "Read the economy and class structure of german fascism if you want a detailed explanation for “scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds”"
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          +body: """
            > And yes, the only pro-Western nation ever falling into a serious Food-Crisis was… Haiti.\n
            \n
            Read Late Victorian Holocausts if you want to be less wrong.\n
            \n
            > Well, actually I am sharing “Wikipedia Propaganda” but if you want to call Wikipedia Nazi-Propaganda…\n
            \n
            The holodomor was originally fabricated by a hearst press associate at a time when Mr Hearst and the third Reich were openly collaborating on spreading nazi propaganda in the US. The famine was bad but the myth that it was a genocide needs to die as it is literally nazi propaganda and was used as a justification for collaborating with the holocaust in Eastern Europe\n
            \n
            This is in fact the mainstream academic position. You may look to Conquest, Davies, and Wheatcroft, who are genuinely anticommunist historians, for their analysis (they all say it wasn’t a genocide)
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            > Because the fraction of the current world that reads every day and learns every day is extremely small.\n
            \n
            Socialist countries are famous for literacy and education drives\n
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            > Again, like I said before, how many people around you come back from work and want to read technical books and watch courses instead of chilling, or hanging out with friends? I have two friends who are nut jobs like me and work all the time. EVERYONE else is lazy and just wants to have fun after work, and that’s in my circle. This spans over decades in the different jobs and sectors I worked at, in different countries. Do you have a different experience around you? I have trouble convincing people to read for 30 minutes every day.\n
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            I dont think it is reasonable to assume humans will act the same way in all conditions. I know people who just slack off, and its generally because there is no incentive not to do the bare minimum when you are alienated from your labor
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            Better to have them making the decision than capitalists, who make more money for paying employees less\n
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            Also who says half of them have to be fired? Can’t everyone just work less?
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            Your only question is “what am I missing” and the answer is an economics education.\n
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            > Late Victorian Age\n
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            It is literally a book about western liberal democracies committing genocide, including through intentionally creating famines.\n
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            > Maybe you’ll change your mind one day and understand why the world we live in is the way we live in.\n
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            > But to summarize. You basically want to wreck the current system on the basis that everyone will be diligent, reading all the time, just for the “greater good”, more so than their own profit.\n
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            No, that’s a strawman. People won’t all be diligent. But they will be more productive in general when they are not alienated from their labor. This has been proven with a bunch of economic data on socialist countries and data on cooperatives even within a capitalist environment.\n
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            > And btw, about the “bare minimum”. No one has a reason to not do the bare minimum as they don’t get fired (consequences). There will always be the lazy guy who does the bare minimum, and everyone will get lazier because they’ll get jealous with zero consequences.\n
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            You’re just literally describing capitalism and being like, what about this problem under socialism? The consequences are youre not contributing. Do you think everyone is suddenly going to be less motivated when they’re actually able to realize the product of their labor, instead of having a parasite on top taking it?
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            Thats it interesting scenario, but why are you assuming that there is a significant segment that won’t want to learn, especially when they’re no longer alienated from their labor? And why are you assuming that the total laborers will increase with new technology, when you can retrain existing workers?\n
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            I dont think your scenario is realistic, it kinda reads as really misanthropic
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            No, overthrowing capitalism and beginning a transition to a more rational economic system increases your life expectancy. You can literally look up graphs.\n
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            [statista.com/…/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041395/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/)
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          +body: "Yes. All of those countries had more civil rights and longer life expectancy after the revolution"
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            See you’re still trapped within the logic of capitalism which maximizes profits and expansion over other concerns.\n
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            > So, assuming we want to keep everyone (including useless people who’d rather have beer instead of reading a book to learn the new stuff), the income of everyone will just go down over time. Eventually, with no one getting fire there won’t be enough money to go around to feed them. What am I missing here?\n
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            These are all massive assumptions
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            Unfortunately in the case of econ 101, you are taught that 2+2=5 most modern econ is neoclassical, which means operating on pre-marx economics and just ignoring marxist critiques of the political economy.\n
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            > and money falls from the sky, and everyone being lazy leads to growth, I’ll ask them to justify.\n
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            Thats a mighty strawman you invented. Workers are going to do the bare minimum to not get fired when it literally doesn’t matter how much they work, their income will be the same. When workers are invested in an organization, they do more work.
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          +body: "THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves."
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            Literally sharing nazi propaganda from Hearst press lol\n
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            Anyway, capitalism is known for never having famines or economic crises, especially not cyclical ones
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            You literally only have one question, the rest of it is opining.\n
            \n
            You’re assuming a wage labor model and that people working twice as efficiently and at half intensity would result in decreased production.\n
            \n
            1. wage labor models aren’t universal\n
            2. there is no reasoning stated for why production would go down\n
            \n
            You’re assuming people would have to be fired to maintain competitive growth. This is based on the logic of firms competing to capture market share. There isn’t really a rational reason for this to need to happen under systems were the point is to accommodate human need, not to maximize profit.
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          +body: "Read the economy and class structure of german fascism if you want a detailed explanation for “scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds”"
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          +body: """
            > And yes, the only pro-Western nation ever falling into a serious Food-Crisis was… Haiti.\n
            \n
            Read Late Victorian Holocausts if you want to be less wrong.\n
            \n
            > Well, actually I am sharing “Wikipedia Propaganda” but if you want to call Wikipedia Nazi-Propaganda…\n
            \n
            The holodomor was originally fabricated by a hearst press associate at a time when Mr Hearst and the third Reich were openly collaborating on spreading nazi propaganda in the US. The famine was bad but the myth that it was a genocide needs to die as it is literally nazi propaganda and was used as a justification for collaborating with the holocaust in Eastern Europe\n
            \n
            This is in fact the mainstream academic position. You may look to Conquest, Davies, and Wheatcroft, who are genuinely anticommunist historians, for their analysis (they all say it wasn’t a genocide)
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            > Because the fraction of the current world that reads every day and learns every day is extremely small.\n
            \n
            Socialist countries are famous for literacy and education drives\n
            \n
            > Again, like I said before, how many people around you come back from work and want to read technical books and watch courses instead of chilling, or hanging out with friends? I have two friends who are nut jobs like me and work all the time. EVERYONE else is lazy and just wants to have fun after work, and that’s in my circle. This spans over decades in the different jobs and sectors I worked at, in different countries. Do you have a different experience around you? I have trouble convincing people to read for 30 minutes every day.\n
            \n
            I dont think it is reasonable to assume humans will act the same way in all conditions. I know people who just slack off, and its generally because there is no incentive not to do the bare minimum when you are alienated from your labor
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            Better to have them making the decision than capitalists, who make more money for paying employees less\n
            \n
            Also who says half of them have to be fired? Can’t everyone just work less?
            """
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          +body: """
            Your only question is “what am I missing” and the answer is an economics education.\n
            \n
            But to address your “concerns” you’re operating on the mindset of maximizing profit to compete against other firms maximizing profit, which is only a problem under capitalism (until you reach the monopoly stage)
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            > Late Victorian Age\n
            \n
            It is literally a book about western liberal democracies committing genocide, including through intentionally creating famines.\n
            \n
            > Oh, and you claim the Holodomor didn’t happen? Well, let me guess, Stalin also didn’t got 30 million sowiet people killed?\n
            \n
            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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          +body: "Read “riding the wave” fo learn about how Scandinavian countries are beneficiaries of the imperialist system"
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            I will repeat:\n
            \n
            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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            > But to summarize. You basically want to wreck the current system on the basis that everyone will be diligent, reading all the time, just for the “greater good”, more so than their own profit.\n
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            You’re just literally describing capitalism and being like, what about this problem under socialism? The consequences are youre not contributing. Do you think everyone is suddenly going to be less motivated when they’re actually able to realize the product of their labor, instead of having a parasite on top taking it?
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            Thats it interesting scenario, but why are you assuming that there is a significant segment that won’t want to learn, especially when they’re no longer alienated from their labor? And why are you assuming that the total laborers will increase with new technology, when you can retrain existing workers?\n
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            No, overthrowing capitalism and beginning a transition to a more rational economic system increases your life expectancy. You can literally look up graphs.\n
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            [statista.com/…/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041395/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/)
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          +body: "Yes. All of those countries had more civil rights and longer life expectancy after the revolution"
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            See you’re still trapped within the logic of capitalism which maximizes profits and expansion over other concerns.\n
            \n
            > So, assuming we want to keep everyone (including useless people who’d rather have beer instead of reading a book to learn the new stuff), the income of everyone will just go down over time. Eventually, with no one getting fire there won’t be enough money to go around to feed them. What am I missing here?\n
            \n
            These are all massive assumptions
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            Unfortunately in the case of econ 101, you are taught that 2+2=5 most modern econ is neoclassical, which means operating on pre-marx economics and just ignoring marxist critiques of the political economy.\n
            \n
            > and money falls from the sky, and everyone being lazy leads to growth, I’ll ask them to justify.\n
            \n
            Thats a mighty strawman you invented. Workers are going to do the bare minimum to not get fired when it literally doesn’t matter how much they work, their income will be the same. When workers are invested in an organization, they do more work.
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          +body: "THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves."
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            Literally sharing nazi propaganda from Hearst press lol\n
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            Anyway, capitalism is known for never having famines or economic crises, especially not cyclical ones
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            You literally only have one question, the rest of it is opining.\n
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            You’re assuming a wage labor model and that people working twice as efficiently and at half intensity would result in decreased production.\n
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            1. wage labor models aren’t universal\n
            2. there is no reasoning stated for why production would go down\n
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            You’re assuming people would have to be fired to maintain competitive growth. This is based on the logic of firms competing to capture market share. There isn’t really a rational reason for this to need to happen under systems were the point is to accommodate human need, not to maximize profit.
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          +body: "Read the economy and class structure of german fascism if you want a detailed explanation for “scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds”"
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          +body: """
            > And yes, the only pro-Western nation ever falling into a serious Food-Crisis was… Haiti.\n
            \n
            Read Late Victorian Holocausts if you want to be less wrong.\n
            \n
            > Well, actually I am sharing “Wikipedia Propaganda” but if you want to call Wikipedia Nazi-Propaganda…\n
            \n
            The holodomor was originally fabricated by a hearst press associate at a time when Mr Hearst and the third Reich were openly collaborating on spreading nazi propaganda in the US. The famine was bad but the myth that it was a genocide needs to die as it is literally nazi propaganda and was used as a justification for collaborating with the holocaust in Eastern Europe\n
            \n
            This is in fact the mainstream academic position. You may look to Conquest, Davies, and Wheatcroft, who are genuinely anticommunist historians, for their analysis (they all say it wasn’t a genocide)
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            > Because the fraction of the current world that reads every day and learns every day is extremely small.\n
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            Socialist countries are famous for literacy and education drives\n
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            > Again, like I said before, how many people around you come back from work and want to read technical books and watch courses instead of chilling, or hanging out with friends? I have two friends who are nut jobs like me and work all the time. EVERYONE else is lazy and just wants to have fun after work, and that’s in my circle. This spans over decades in the different jobs and sectors I worked at, in different countries. Do you have a different experience around you? I have trouble convincing people to read for 30 minutes every day.\n
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            Better to have them making the decision than capitalists, who make more money for paying employees less\n
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            Also who says half of them have to be fired? Can’t everyone just work less?
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            Your only question is “what am I missing” and the answer is an economics education.\n
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            But to address your “concerns” you’re operating on the mindset of maximizing profit to compete against other firms maximizing profit, which is only a problem under capitalism (until you reach the monopoly stage)
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            > Late Victorian Age\n
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            It is literally a book about western liberal democracies committing genocide, including through intentionally creating famines.\n
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            > Oh, and you claim the Holodomor didn’t happen? Well, let me guess, Stalin also didn’t got 30 million sowiet people killed?\n
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            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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          +body: "Read “riding the wave” fo learn about how Scandinavian countries are beneficiaries of the imperialist system"
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            I will repeat:\n
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            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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            > Maybe you’ll change your mind one day and understand why the world we live in is the way we live in.\n
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            This from the person who is spouting econ 101 nonsense.
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            > But to summarize. You basically want to wreck the current system on the basis that everyone will be diligent, reading all the time, just for the “greater good”, more so than their own profit.\n
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            No, that’s a strawman. People won’t all be diligent. But they will be more productive in general when they are not alienated from their labor. This has been proven with a bunch of economic data on socialist countries and data on cooperatives even within a capitalist environment.\n
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            > And btw, about the “bare minimum”. No one has a reason to not do the bare minimum as they don’t get fired (consequences). There will always be the lazy guy who does the bare minimum, and everyone will get lazier because they’ll get jealous with zero consequences.\n
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            You’re just literally describing capitalism and being like, what about this problem under socialism? The consequences are youre not contributing. Do you think everyone is suddenly going to be less motivated when they’re actually able to realize the product of their labor, instead of having a parasite on top taking it?
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            Thats it interesting scenario, but why are you assuming that there is a significant segment that won’t want to learn, especially when they’re no longer alienated from their labor? And why are you assuming that the total laborers will increase with new technology, when you can retrain existing workers?\n
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            I dont think your scenario is realistic, it kinda reads as really misanthropic
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            No, overthrowing capitalism and beginning a transition to a more rational economic system increases your life expectancy. You can literally look up graphs.\n
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            [statista.com/…/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041395/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/)
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            See you’re still trapped within the logic of capitalism which maximizes profits and expansion over other concerns.\n
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            > So, assuming we want to keep everyone (including useless people who’d rather have beer instead of reading a book to learn the new stuff), the income of everyone will just go down over time. Eventually, with no one getting fire there won’t be enough money to go around to feed them. What am I missing here?\n
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            These are all massive assumptions
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            Unfortunately in the case of econ 101, you are taught that 2+2=5 most modern econ is neoclassical, which means operating on pre-marx economics and just ignoring marxist critiques of the political economy.\n
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            Thats a mighty strawman you invented. Workers are going to do the bare minimum to not get fired when it literally doesn’t matter how much they work, their income will be the same. When workers are invested in an organization, they do more work.
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          +body: "THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves."
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            Literally sharing nazi propaganda from Hearst press lol\n
            \n
            Anyway, capitalism is known for never having famines or economic crises, especially not cyclical ones
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            You literally only have one question, the rest of it is opining.\n
            \n
            You’re assuming a wage labor model and that people working twice as efficiently and at half intensity would result in decreased production.\n
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            1. wage labor models aren’t universal\n
            2. there is no reasoning stated for why production would go down\n
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            You’re assuming people would have to be fired to maintain competitive growth. This is based on the logic of firms competing to capture market share. There isn’t really a rational reason for this to need to happen under systems were the point is to accommodate human need, not to maximize profit.
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          +body: "Do you think the shareholders are active in problem solving? Workers include basically everyone but the shareholders. The tech guys, the executives, the managers."
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            > And yes, the only pro-Western nation ever falling into a serious Food-Crisis was… Haiti.\n
            \n
            Read Late Victorian Holocausts if you want to be less wrong.\n
            \n
            > Well, actually I am sharing “Wikipedia Propaganda” but if you want to call Wikipedia Nazi-Propaganda…\n
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            The holodomor was originally fabricated by a hearst press associate at a time when Mr Hearst and the third Reich were openly collaborating on spreading nazi propaganda in the US. The famine was bad but the myth that it was a genocide needs to die as it is literally nazi propaganda and was used as a justification for collaborating with the holocaust in Eastern Europe\n
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            This is in fact the mainstream academic position. You may look to Conquest, Davies, and Wheatcroft, who are genuinely anticommunist historians, for their analysis (they all say it wasn’t a genocide)
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            > Because the fraction of the current world that reads every day and learns every day is extremely small.\n
            \n
            Socialist countries are famous for literacy and education drives\n
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            > Again, like I said before, how many people around you come back from work and want to read technical books and watch courses instead of chilling, or hanging out with friends? I have two friends who are nut jobs like me and work all the time. EVERYONE else is lazy and just wants to have fun after work, and that’s in my circle. This spans over decades in the different jobs and sectors I worked at, in different countries. Do you have a different experience around you? I have trouble convincing people to read for 30 minutes every day.\n
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            I dont think it is reasonable to assume humans will act the same way in all conditions. I know people who just slack off, and its generally because there is no incentive not to do the bare minimum when you are alienated from your labor
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            Better to have them making the decision than capitalists, who make more money for paying employees less\n
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            Also who says half of them have to be fired? Can’t everyone just work less?
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            Your only question is “what am I missing” and the answer is an economics education.\n
            \n
            But to address your “concerns” you’re operating on the mindset of maximizing profit to compete against other firms maximizing profit, which is only a problem under capitalism (until you reach the monopoly stage)
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            > Late Victorian Age\n
            \n
            It is literally a book about western liberal democracies committing genocide, including through intentionally creating famines.\n
            \n
            > Oh, and you claim the Holodomor didn’t happen? Well, let me guess, Stalin also didn’t got 30 million sowiet people killed?\n
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            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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            I will repeat:\n
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            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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            > Maybe you’ll change your mind one day and understand why the world we live in is the way we live in.\n
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            > But to summarize. You basically want to wreck the current system on the basis that everyone will be diligent, reading all the time, just for the “greater good”, more so than their own profit.\n
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            Thats it interesting scenario, but why are you assuming that there is a significant segment that won’t want to learn, especially when they’re no longer alienated from their labor? And why are you assuming that the total laborers will increase with new technology, when you can retrain existing workers?\n
            \n
            I dont think your scenario is realistic, it kinda reads as really misanthropic
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            No, overthrowing capitalism and beginning a transition to a more rational economic system increases your life expectancy. You can literally look up graphs.\n
            \n
            [statista.com/…/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041395/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/)
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          +body: "Yes. All of those countries had more civil rights and longer life expectancy after the revolution"
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            See you’re still trapped within the logic of capitalism which maximizes profits and expansion over other concerns.\n
            \n
            > So, assuming we want to keep everyone (including useless people who’d rather have beer instead of reading a book to learn the new stuff), the income of everyone will just go down over time. Eventually, with no one getting fire there won’t be enough money to go around to feed them. What am I missing here?\n
            \n
            These are all massive assumptions
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            Unfortunately in the case of econ 101, you are taught that 2+2=5 most modern econ is neoclassical, which means operating on pre-marx economics and just ignoring marxist critiques of the political economy.\n
            \n
            > and money falls from the sky, and everyone being lazy leads to growth, I’ll ask them to justify.\n
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            Thats a mighty strawman you invented. Workers are going to do the bare minimum to not get fired when it literally doesn’t matter how much they work, their income will be the same. When workers are invested in an organization, they do more work.
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          +body: "THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves."
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            Literally sharing nazi propaganda from Hearst press lol\n
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            Anyway, capitalism is known for never having famines or economic crises, especially not cyclical ones
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            You literally only have one question, the rest of it is opining.\n
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            You’re assuming a wage labor model and that people working twice as efficiently and at half intensity would result in decreased production.\n
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            1. wage labor models aren’t universal\n
            2. there is no reasoning stated for why production would go down\n
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            You’re assuming people would have to be fired to maintain competitive growth. This is based on the logic of firms competing to capture market share. There isn’t really a rational reason for this to need to happen under systems were the point is to accommodate human need, not to maximize profit.
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          +body: "Do you think the shareholders are active in problem solving? Workers include basically everyone but the shareholders. The tech guys, the executives, the managers."
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            > And yes, the only pro-Western nation ever falling into a serious Food-Crisis was… Haiti.\n
            \n
            Read Late Victorian Holocausts if you want to be less wrong.\n
            \n
            > Well, actually I am sharing “Wikipedia Propaganda” but if you want to call Wikipedia Nazi-Propaganda…\n
            \n
            The holodomor was originally fabricated by a hearst press associate at a time when Mr Hearst and the third Reich were openly collaborating on spreading nazi propaganda in the US. The famine was bad but the myth that it was a genocide needs to die as it is literally nazi propaganda and was used as a justification for collaborating with the holocaust in Eastern Europe\n
            \n
            This is in fact the mainstream academic position. You may look to Conquest, Davies, and Wheatcroft, who are genuinely anticommunist historians, for their analysis (they all say it wasn’t a genocide)
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            > Because the fraction of the current world that reads every day and learns every day is extremely small.\n
            \n
            Socialist countries are famous for literacy and education drives\n
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            > Again, like I said before, how many people around you come back from work and want to read technical books and watch courses instead of chilling, or hanging out with friends? I have two friends who are nut jobs like me and work all the time. EVERYONE else is lazy and just wants to have fun after work, and that’s in my circle. This spans over decades in the different jobs and sectors I worked at, in different countries. Do you have a different experience around you? I have trouble convincing people to read for 30 minutes every day.\n
            \n
            I dont think it is reasonable to assume humans will act the same way in all conditions. I know people who just slack off, and its generally because there is no incentive not to do the bare minimum when you are alienated from your labor
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            Better to have them making the decision than capitalists, who make more money for paying employees less\n
            \n
            Also who says half of them have to be fired? Can’t everyone just work less?
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            Your only question is “what am I missing” and the answer is an economics education.\n
            \n
            But to address your “concerns” you’re operating on the mindset of maximizing profit to compete against other firms maximizing profit, which is only a problem under capitalism (until you reach the monopoly stage)
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            > Late Victorian Age\n
            \n
            It is literally a book about western liberal democracies committing genocide, including through intentionally creating famines.\n
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            > Oh, and you claim the Holodomor didn’t happen? Well, let me guess, Stalin also didn’t got 30 million sowiet people killed?\n
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            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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          +body: "Read “riding the wave” fo learn about how Scandinavian countries are beneficiaries of the imperialist system"
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            I will repeat:\n
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            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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            > Maybe you’ll change your mind one day and understand why the world we live in is the way we live in.\n
            \n
            This from the person who is spouting econ 101 nonsense.
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            > But to summarize. You basically want to wreck the current system on the basis that everyone will be diligent, reading all the time, just for the “greater good”, more so than their own profit.\n
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            No, that’s a strawman. People won’t all be diligent. But they will be more productive in general when they are not alienated from their labor. This has been proven with a bunch of economic data on socialist countries and data on cooperatives even within a capitalist environment.\n
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            > And btw, about the “bare minimum”. No one has a reason to not do the bare minimum as they don’t get fired (consequences). There will always be the lazy guy who does the bare minimum, and everyone will get lazier because they’ll get jealous with zero consequences.\n
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            You’re just literally describing capitalism and being like, what about this problem under socialism? The consequences are youre not contributing. Do you think everyone is suddenly going to be less motivated when they’re actually able to realize the product of their labor, instead of having a parasite on top taking it?
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            Thats it interesting scenario, but why are you assuming that there is a significant segment that won’t want to learn, especially when they’re no longer alienated from their labor? And why are you assuming that the total laborers will increase with new technology, when you can retrain existing workers?\n
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            I dont think your scenario is realistic, it kinda reads as really misanthropic
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            No, overthrowing capitalism and beginning a transition to a more rational economic system increases your life expectancy. You can literally look up graphs.\n
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            [statista.com/…/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041395/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/)
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          +body: "Yes. All of those countries had more civil rights and longer life expectancy after the revolution"
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            See you’re still trapped within the logic of capitalism which maximizes profits and expansion over other concerns.\n
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            > So, assuming we want to keep everyone (including useless people who’d rather have beer instead of reading a book to learn the new stuff), the income of everyone will just go down over time. Eventually, with no one getting fire there won’t be enough money to go around to feed them. What am I missing here?\n
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            These are all massive assumptions
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            Unfortunately in the case of econ 101, you are taught that 2+2=5 most modern econ is neoclassical, which means operating on pre-marx economics and just ignoring marxist critiques of the political economy.\n
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            > and money falls from the sky, and everyone being lazy leads to growth, I’ll ask them to justify.\n
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            Thats a mighty strawman you invented. Workers are going to do the bare minimum to not get fired when it literally doesn’t matter how much they work, their income will be the same. When workers are invested in an organization, they do more work.
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          +body: "THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves."
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            Literally sharing nazi propaganda from Hearst press lol\n
            \n
            Anyway, capitalism is known for never having famines or economic crises, especially not cyclical ones
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            You literally only have one question, the rest of it is opining.\n
            \n
            You’re assuming a wage labor model and that people working twice as efficiently and at half intensity would result in decreased production.\n
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            1. wage labor models aren’t universal\n
            2. there is no reasoning stated for why production would go down\n
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            You’re assuming people would have to be fired to maintain competitive growth. This is based on the logic of firms competing to capture market share. There isn’t really a rational reason for this to need to happen under systems were the point is to accommodate human need, not to maximize profit.
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          +body: "Do you think the shareholders are active in problem solving? Workers include basically everyone but the shareholders. The tech guys, the executives, the managers."
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            > And yes, the only pro-Western nation ever falling into a serious Food-Crisis was… Haiti.\n
            \n
            Read Late Victorian Holocausts if you want to be less wrong.\n
            \n
            > Well, actually I am sharing “Wikipedia Propaganda” but if you want to call Wikipedia Nazi-Propaganda…\n
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            The holodomor was originally fabricated by a hearst press associate at a time when Mr Hearst and the third Reich were openly collaborating on spreading nazi propaganda in the US. The famine was bad but the myth that it was a genocide needs to die as it is literally nazi propaganda and was used as a justification for collaborating with the holocaust in Eastern Europe\n
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            This is in fact the mainstream academic position. You may look to Conquest, Davies, and Wheatcroft, who are genuinely anticommunist historians, for their analysis (they all say it wasn’t a genocide)
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            > Because the fraction of the current world that reads every day and learns every day is extremely small.\n
            \n
            Socialist countries are famous for literacy and education drives\n
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            > Again, like I said before, how many people around you come back from work and want to read technical books and watch courses instead of chilling, or hanging out with friends? I have two friends who are nut jobs like me and work all the time. EVERYONE else is lazy and just wants to have fun after work, and that’s in my circle. This spans over decades in the different jobs and sectors I worked at, in different countries. Do you have a different experience around you? I have trouble convincing people to read for 30 minutes every day.\n
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            I dont think it is reasonable to assume humans will act the same way in all conditions. I know people who just slack off, and its generally because there is no incentive not to do the bare minimum when you are alienated from your labor
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            Better to have them making the decision than capitalists, who make more money for paying employees less\n
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            Also who says half of them have to be fired? Can’t everyone just work less?
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            Your only question is “what am I missing” and the answer is an economics education.\n
            \n
            But to address your “concerns” you’re operating on the mindset of maximizing profit to compete against other firms maximizing profit, which is only a problem under capitalism (until you reach the monopoly stage)
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            > Late Victorian Age\n
            \n
            It is literally a book about western liberal democracies committing genocide, including through intentionally creating famines.\n
            \n
            > Oh, and you claim the Holodomor didn’t happen? Well, let me guess, Stalin also didn’t got 30 million sowiet people killed?\n
            \n
            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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            > But to summarize. You basically want to wreck the current system on the basis that everyone will be diligent, reading all the time, just for the “greater good”, more so than their own profit.\n
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            Thats it interesting scenario, but why are you assuming that there is a significant segment that won’t want to learn, especially when they’re no longer alienated from their labor? And why are you assuming that the total laborers will increase with new technology, when you can retrain existing workers?\n
            \n
            I dont think your scenario is realistic, it kinda reads as really misanthropic
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            No, overthrowing capitalism and beginning a transition to a more rational economic system increases your life expectancy. You can literally look up graphs.\n
            \n
            [statista.com/…/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041395/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/)
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          +body: "Yes. All of those countries had more civil rights and longer life expectancy after the revolution"
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            See you’re still trapped within the logic of capitalism which maximizes profits and expansion over other concerns.\n
            \n
            > So, assuming we want to keep everyone (including useless people who’d rather have beer instead of reading a book to learn the new stuff), the income of everyone will just go down over time. Eventually, with no one getting fire there won’t be enough money to go around to feed them. What am I missing here?\n
            \n
            These are all massive assumptions
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            Unfortunately in the case of econ 101, you are taught that 2+2=5 most modern econ is neoclassical, which means operating on pre-marx economics and just ignoring marxist critiques of the political economy.\n
            \n
            > and money falls from the sky, and everyone being lazy leads to growth, I’ll ask them to justify.\n
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            Thats a mighty strawman you invented. Workers are going to do the bare minimum to not get fired when it literally doesn’t matter how much they work, their income will be the same. When workers are invested in an organization, they do more work.
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          +body: "THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves."
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            Literally sharing nazi propaganda from Hearst press lol\n
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            Anyway, capitalism is known for never having famines or economic crises, especially not cyclical ones
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            You literally only have one question, the rest of it is opining.\n
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            You’re assuming a wage labor model and that people working twice as efficiently and at half intensity would result in decreased production.\n
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            1. wage labor models aren’t universal\n
            2. there is no reasoning stated for why production would go down\n
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            You’re assuming people would have to be fired to maintain competitive growth. This is based on the logic of firms competing to capture market share. There isn’t really a rational reason for this to need to happen under systems were the point is to accommodate human need, not to maximize profit.
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          +body: "Do you think the shareholders are active in problem solving? Workers include basically everyone but the shareholders. The tech guys, the executives, the managers."
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            > And yes, the only pro-Western nation ever falling into a serious Food-Crisis was… Haiti.\n
            \n
            Read Late Victorian Holocausts if you want to be less wrong.\n
            \n
            > Well, actually I am sharing “Wikipedia Propaganda” but if you want to call Wikipedia Nazi-Propaganda…\n
            \n
            The holodomor was originally fabricated by a hearst press associate at a time when Mr Hearst and the third Reich were openly collaborating on spreading nazi propaganda in the US. The famine was bad but the myth that it was a genocide needs to die as it is literally nazi propaganda and was used as a justification for collaborating with the holocaust in Eastern Europe\n
            \n
            This is in fact the mainstream academic position. You may look to Conquest, Davies, and Wheatcroft, who are genuinely anticommunist historians, for their analysis (they all say it wasn’t a genocide)
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            > Because the fraction of the current world that reads every day and learns every day is extremely small.\n
            \n
            Socialist countries are famous for literacy and education drives\n
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            > Again, like I said before, how many people around you come back from work and want to read technical books and watch courses instead of chilling, or hanging out with friends? I have two friends who are nut jobs like me and work all the time. EVERYONE else is lazy and just wants to have fun after work, and that’s in my circle. This spans over decades in the different jobs and sectors I worked at, in different countries. Do you have a different experience around you? I have trouble convincing people to read for 30 minutes every day.\n
            \n
            I dont think it is reasonable to assume humans will act the same way in all conditions. I know people who just slack off, and its generally because there is no incentive not to do the bare minimum when you are alienated from your labor
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            Better to have them making the decision than capitalists, who make more money for paying employees less\n
            \n
            Also who says half of them have to be fired? Can’t everyone just work less?
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            Your only question is “what am I missing” and the answer is an economics education.\n
            \n
            But to address your “concerns” you’re operating on the mindset of maximizing profit to compete against other firms maximizing profit, which is only a problem under capitalism (until you reach the monopoly stage)
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            > Late Victorian Age\n
            \n
            It is literally a book about western liberal democracies committing genocide, including through intentionally creating famines.\n
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            > Oh, and you claim the Holodomor didn’t happen? Well, let me guess, Stalin also didn’t got 30 million sowiet people killed?\n
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            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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          +body: "Read “riding the wave” fo learn about how Scandinavian countries are beneficiaries of the imperialist system"
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            I will repeat:\n
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            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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            > Maybe you’ll change your mind one day and understand why the world we live in is the way we live in.\n
            \n
            This from the person who is spouting econ 101 nonsense.
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            > But to summarize. You basically want to wreck the current system on the basis that everyone will be diligent, reading all the time, just for the “greater good”, more so than their own profit.\n
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            You’re just literally describing capitalism and being like, what about this problem under socialism? The consequences are youre not contributing. Do you think everyone is suddenly going to be less motivated when they’re actually able to realize the product of their labor, instead of having a parasite on top taking it?
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            Thats it interesting scenario, but why are you assuming that there is a significant segment that won’t want to learn, especially when they’re no longer alienated from their labor? And why are you assuming that the total laborers will increase with new technology, when you can retrain existing workers?\n
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            No, overthrowing capitalism and beginning a transition to a more rational economic system increases your life expectancy. You can literally look up graphs.\n
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            [statista.com/…/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041395/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/)
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          +body: "Yes. All of those countries had more civil rights and longer life expectancy after the revolution"
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            See you’re still trapped within the logic of capitalism which maximizes profits and expansion over other concerns.\n
            \n
            > So, assuming we want to keep everyone (including useless people who’d rather have beer instead of reading a book to learn the new stuff), the income of everyone will just go down over time. Eventually, with no one getting fire there won’t be enough money to go around to feed them. What am I missing here?\n
            \n
            These are all massive assumptions
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            Unfortunately in the case of econ 101, you are taught that 2+2=5 most modern econ is neoclassical, which means operating on pre-marx economics and just ignoring marxist critiques of the political economy.\n
            \n
            > and money falls from the sky, and everyone being lazy leads to growth, I’ll ask them to justify.\n
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            Thats a mighty strawman you invented. Workers are going to do the bare minimum to not get fired when it literally doesn’t matter how much they work, their income will be the same. When workers are invested in an organization, they do more work.
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          +body: "THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves."
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            Literally sharing nazi propaganda from Hearst press lol\n
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            Anyway, capitalism is known for never having famines or economic crises, especially not cyclical ones
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            You literally only have one question, the rest of it is opining.\n
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            You’re assuming a wage labor model and that people working twice as efficiently and at half intensity would result in decreased production.\n
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            1. wage labor models aren’t universal\n
            2. there is no reasoning stated for why production would go down\n
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            You’re assuming people would have to be fired to maintain competitive growth. This is based on the logic of firms competing to capture market share. There isn’t really a rational reason for this to need to happen under systems were the point is to accommodate human need, not to maximize profit.
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          +body: "Do you think the shareholders are active in problem solving? Workers include basically everyone but the shareholders. The tech guys, the executives, the managers."
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            > And yes, the only pro-Western nation ever falling into a serious Food-Crisis was… Haiti.\n
            \n
            Read Late Victorian Holocausts if you want to be less wrong.\n
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            > Well, actually I am sharing “Wikipedia Propaganda” but if you want to call Wikipedia Nazi-Propaganda…\n
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            The holodomor was originally fabricated by a hearst press associate at a time when Mr Hearst and the third Reich were openly collaborating on spreading nazi propaganda in the US. The famine was bad but the myth that it was a genocide needs to die as it is literally nazi propaganda and was used as a justification for collaborating with the holocaust in Eastern Europe\n
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            This is in fact the mainstream academic position. You may look to Conquest, Davies, and Wheatcroft, who are genuinely anticommunist historians, for their analysis (they all say it wasn’t a genocide)
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            > Because the fraction of the current world that reads every day and learns every day is extremely small.\n
            \n
            Socialist countries are famous for literacy and education drives\n
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            > Again, like I said before, how many people around you come back from work and want to read technical books and watch courses instead of chilling, or hanging out with friends? I have two friends who are nut jobs like me and work all the time. EVERYONE else is lazy and just wants to have fun after work, and that’s in my circle. This spans over decades in the different jobs and sectors I worked at, in different countries. Do you have a different experience around you? I have trouble convincing people to read for 30 minutes every day.\n
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            I dont think it is reasonable to assume humans will act the same way in all conditions. I know people who just slack off, and its generally because there is no incentive not to do the bare minimum when you are alienated from your labor
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            Better to have them making the decision than capitalists, who make more money for paying employees less\n
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            Also who says half of them have to be fired? Can’t everyone just work less?
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            Your only question is “what am I missing” and the answer is an economics education.\n
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            But to address your “concerns” you’re operating on the mindset of maximizing profit to compete against other firms maximizing profit, which is only a problem under capitalism (until you reach the monopoly stage)
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            > Late Victorian Age\n
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            It is literally a book about western liberal democracies committing genocide, including through intentionally creating famines.\n
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            > Oh, and you claim the Holodomor didn’t happen? Well, let me guess, Stalin also didn’t got 30 million sowiet people killed?\n
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            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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          +body: "Read “riding the wave” fo learn about how Scandinavian countries are beneficiaries of the imperialist system"
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            I will repeat:\n
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            > Maybe you’ll change your mind one day and understand why the world we live in is the way we live in.\n
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            This from the person who is spouting econ 101 nonsense.
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            > But to summarize. You basically want to wreck the current system on the basis that everyone will be diligent, reading all the time, just for the “greater good”, more so than their own profit.\n
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            No, that’s a strawman. People won’t all be diligent. But they will be more productive in general when they are not alienated from their labor. This has been proven with a bunch of economic data on socialist countries and data on cooperatives even within a capitalist environment.\n
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            > And btw, about the “bare minimum”. No one has a reason to not do the bare minimum as they don’t get fired (consequences). There will always be the lazy guy who does the bare minimum, and everyone will get lazier because they’ll get jealous with zero consequences.\n
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            You’re just literally describing capitalism and being like, what about this problem under socialism? The consequences are youre not contributing. Do you think everyone is suddenly going to be less motivated when they’re actually able to realize the product of their labor, instead of having a parasite on top taking it?
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            Thats it interesting scenario, but why are you assuming that there is a significant segment that won’t want to learn, especially when they’re no longer alienated from their labor? And why are you assuming that the total laborers will increase with new technology, when you can retrain existing workers?\n
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            I dont think your scenario is realistic, it kinda reads as really misanthropic
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            No, overthrowing capitalism and beginning a transition to a more rational economic system increases your life expectancy. You can literally look up graphs.\n
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            [statista.com/…/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041395/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/)
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          +body: "Yes. All of those countries had more civil rights and longer life expectancy after the revolution"
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            See you’re still trapped within the logic of capitalism which maximizes profits and expansion over other concerns.\n
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            > So, assuming we want to keep everyone (including useless people who’d rather have beer instead of reading a book to learn the new stuff), the income of everyone will just go down over time. Eventually, with no one getting fire there won’t be enough money to go around to feed them. What am I missing here?\n
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            These are all massive assumptions
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            Unfortunately in the case of econ 101, you are taught that 2+2=5 most modern econ is neoclassical, which means operating on pre-marx economics and just ignoring marxist critiques of the political economy.\n
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            > and money falls from the sky, and everyone being lazy leads to growth, I’ll ask them to justify.\n
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            Thats a mighty strawman you invented. Workers are going to do the bare minimum to not get fired when it literally doesn’t matter how much they work, their income will be the same. When workers are invested in an organization, they do more work.
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          +body: "THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves."
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            Literally sharing nazi propaganda from Hearst press lol\n
            \n
            Anyway, capitalism is known for never having famines or economic crises, especially not cyclical ones
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            You literally only have one question, the rest of it is opining.\n
            \n
            You’re assuming a wage labor model and that people working twice as efficiently and at half intensity would result in decreased production.\n
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            1. wage labor models aren’t universal\n
            2. there is no reasoning stated for why production would go down\n
            \n
            You’re assuming people would have to be fired to maintain competitive growth. This is based on the logic of firms competing to capture market share. There isn’t really a rational reason for this to need to happen under systems were the point is to accommodate human need, not to maximize profit.
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          +body: "Do you think the shareholders are active in problem solving? Workers include basically everyone but the shareholders. The tech guys, the executives, the managers."
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            > And yes, the only pro-Western nation ever falling into a serious Food-Crisis was… Haiti.\n
            \n
            Read Late Victorian Holocausts if you want to be less wrong.\n
            \n
            > Well, actually I am sharing “Wikipedia Propaganda” but if you want to call Wikipedia Nazi-Propaganda…\n
            \n
            The holodomor was originally fabricated by a hearst press associate at a time when Mr Hearst and the third Reich were openly collaborating on spreading nazi propaganda in the US. The famine was bad but the myth that it was a genocide needs to die as it is literally nazi propaganda and was used as a justification for collaborating with the holocaust in Eastern Europe\n
            \n
            This is in fact the mainstream academic position. You may look to Conquest, Davies, and Wheatcroft, who are genuinely anticommunist historians, for their analysis (they all say it wasn’t a genocide)
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            > Because the fraction of the current world that reads every day and learns every day is extremely small.\n
            \n
            Socialist countries are famous for literacy and education drives\n
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            > Again, like I said before, how many people around you come back from work and want to read technical books and watch courses instead of chilling, or hanging out with friends? I have two friends who are nut jobs like me and work all the time. EVERYONE else is lazy and just wants to have fun after work, and that’s in my circle. This spans over decades in the different jobs and sectors I worked at, in different countries. Do you have a different experience around you? I have trouble convincing people to read for 30 minutes every day.\n
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            I dont think it is reasonable to assume humans will act the same way in all conditions. I know people who just slack off, and its generally because there is no incentive not to do the bare minimum when you are alienated from your labor
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            Better to have them making the decision than capitalists, who make more money for paying employees less\n
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            Also who says half of them have to be fired? Can’t everyone just work less?
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            Your only question is “what am I missing” and the answer is an economics education.\n
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            But to address your “concerns” you’re operating on the mindset of maximizing profit to compete against other firms maximizing profit, which is only a problem under capitalism (until you reach the monopoly stage)
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            > Late Victorian Age\n
            \n
            It is literally a book about western liberal democracies committing genocide, including through intentionally creating famines.\n
            \n
            > Oh, and you claim the Holodomor didn’t happen? Well, let me guess, Stalin also didn’t got 30 million sowiet people killed?\n
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            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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            I will repeat:\n
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            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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            > Maybe you’ll change your mind one day and understand why the world we live in is the way we live in.\n
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            > But to summarize. You basically want to wreck the current system on the basis that everyone will be diligent, reading all the time, just for the “greater good”, more so than their own profit.\n
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            Thats it interesting scenario, but why are you assuming that there is a significant segment that won’t want to learn, especially when they’re no longer alienated from their labor? And why are you assuming that the total laborers will increase with new technology, when you can retrain existing workers?\n
            \n
            I dont think your scenario is realistic, it kinda reads as really misanthropic
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            No, overthrowing capitalism and beginning a transition to a more rational economic system increases your life expectancy. You can literally look up graphs.\n
            \n
            [statista.com/…/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041395/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/)
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          +body: "Yes. All of those countries had more civil rights and longer life expectancy after the revolution"
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            See you’re still trapped within the logic of capitalism which maximizes profits and expansion over other concerns.\n
            \n
            > So, assuming we want to keep everyone (including useless people who’d rather have beer instead of reading a book to learn the new stuff), the income of everyone will just go down over time. Eventually, with no one getting fire there won’t be enough money to go around to feed them. What am I missing here?\n
            \n
            These are all massive assumptions
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            Unfortunately in the case of econ 101, you are taught that 2+2=5 most modern econ is neoclassical, which means operating on pre-marx economics and just ignoring marxist critiques of the political economy.\n
            \n
            > and money falls from the sky, and everyone being lazy leads to growth, I’ll ask them to justify.\n
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            Thats a mighty strawman you invented. Workers are going to do the bare minimum to not get fired when it literally doesn’t matter how much they work, their income will be the same. When workers are invested in an organization, they do more work.
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          +body: "THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves."
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            Literally sharing nazi propaganda from Hearst press lol\n
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            Anyway, capitalism is known for never having famines or economic crises, especially not cyclical ones
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            You literally only have one question, the rest of it is opining.\n
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            You’re assuming a wage labor model and that people working twice as efficiently and at half intensity would result in decreased production.\n
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            1. wage labor models aren’t universal\n
            2. there is no reasoning stated for why production would go down\n
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            You’re assuming people would have to be fired to maintain competitive growth. This is based on the logic of firms competing to capture market share. There isn’t really a rational reason for this to need to happen under systems were the point is to accommodate human need, not to maximize profit.
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          +body: "Do you think the shareholders are active in problem solving? Workers include basically everyone but the shareholders. The tech guys, the executives, the managers."
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          +body: "Read the economy and class structure of german fascism if you want a detailed explanation for “scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds”"
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            > Because the fraction of the current world that reads every day and learns every day is extremely small.\n
            \n
            Socialist countries are famous for literacy and education drives\n
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            > Again, like I said before, how many people around you come back from work and want to read technical books and watch courses instead of chilling, or hanging out with friends? I have two friends who are nut jobs like me and work all the time. EVERYONE else is lazy and just wants to have fun after work, and that’s in my circle. This spans over decades in the different jobs and sectors I worked at, in different countries. Do you have a different experience around you? I have trouble convincing people to read for 30 minutes every day.\n
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            I dont think it is reasonable to assume humans will act the same way in all conditions. I know people who just slack off, and its generally because there is no incentive not to do the bare minimum when you are alienated from your labor
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            Better to have them making the decision than capitalists, who make more money for paying employees less\n
            \n
            Also who says half of them have to be fired? Can’t everyone just work less?
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            Your only question is “what am I missing” and the answer is an economics education.\n
            \n
            But to address your “concerns” you’re operating on the mindset of maximizing profit to compete against other firms maximizing profit, which is only a problem under capitalism (until you reach the monopoly stage)
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            > Late Victorian Age\n
            \n
            It is literally a book about western liberal democracies committing genocide, including through intentionally creating famines.\n
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            > Oh, and you claim the Holodomor didn’t happen? Well, let me guess, Stalin also didn’t got 30 million sowiet people killed?\n
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            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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          +body: "Read “riding the wave” fo learn about how Scandinavian countries are beneficiaries of the imperialist system"
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            I will repeat:\n
            \n
            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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            > Maybe you’ll change your mind one day and understand why the world we live in is the way we live in.\n
            \n
            This from the person who is spouting econ 101 nonsense.
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      > And yes, the only pro-Western nation ever falling into a serious Food-Crisis was… Haiti.\n
      \n
      Read Late Victorian Holocausts if you want to be less wrong.\n
      \n
      > Well, actually I am sharing “Wikipedia Propaganda” but if you want to call Wikipedia Nazi-Propaganda…\n
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      The holodomor was originally fabricated by a hearst press associate at a time when Mr Hearst and the third Reich were openly collaborating on spreading nazi propaganda in the US. The famine was bad but the myth that it was a genocide needs to die as it is literally nazi propaganda and was used as a justification for collaborating with the holocaust in Eastern Europe\n
      \n
      This is in fact the mainstream academic position. You may look to Conquest, Davies, and Wheatcroft, who are genuinely anticommunist historians, for their analysis (they all say it wasn’t a genocide)
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            > But to summarize. You basically want to wreck the current system on the basis that everyone will be diligent, reading all the time, just for the “greater good”, more so than their own profit.\n
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            No, that’s a strawman. People won’t all be diligent. But they will be more productive in general when they are not alienated from their labor. This has been proven with a bunch of economic data on socialist countries and data on cooperatives even within a capitalist environment.\n
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            > And btw, about the “bare minimum”. No one has a reason to not do the bare minimum as they don’t get fired (consequences). There will always be the lazy guy who does the bare minimum, and everyone will get lazier because they’ll get jealous with zero consequences.\n
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            You’re just literally describing capitalism and being like, what about this problem under socialism? The consequences are youre not contributing. Do you think everyone is suddenly going to be less motivated when they’re actually able to realize the product of their labor, instead of having a parasite on top taking it?
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            Thats it interesting scenario, but why are you assuming that there is a significant segment that won’t want to learn, especially when they’re no longer alienated from their labor? And why are you assuming that the total laborers will increase with new technology, when you can retrain existing workers?\n
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            I dont think your scenario is realistic, it kinda reads as really misanthropic
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            No, overthrowing capitalism and beginning a transition to a more rational economic system increases your life expectancy. You can literally look up graphs.\n
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            [statista.com/…/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041395/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/)
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            See you’re still trapped within the logic of capitalism which maximizes profits and expansion over other concerns.\n
            \n
            > So, assuming we want to keep everyone (including useless people who’d rather have beer instead of reading a book to learn the new stuff), the income of everyone will just go down over time. Eventually, with no one getting fire there won’t be enough money to go around to feed them. What am I missing here?\n
            \n
            These are all massive assumptions
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            Unfortunately in the case of econ 101, you are taught that 2+2=5 most modern econ is neoclassical, which means operating on pre-marx economics and just ignoring marxist critiques of the political economy.\n
            \n
            > and money falls from the sky, and everyone being lazy leads to growth, I’ll ask them to justify.\n
            \n
            Thats a mighty strawman you invented. Workers are going to do the bare minimum to not get fired when it literally doesn’t matter how much they work, their income will be the same. When workers are invested in an organization, they do more work.
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          +body: "THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves."
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            Literally sharing nazi propaganda from Hearst press lol\n
            \n
            Anyway, capitalism is known for never having famines or economic crises, especially not cyclical ones
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            You literally only have one question, the rest of it is opining.\n
            \n
            You’re assuming a wage labor model and that people working twice as efficiently and at half intensity would result in decreased production.\n
            \n
            1. wage labor models aren’t universal\n
            2. there is no reasoning stated for why production would go down\n
            \n
            You’re assuming people would have to be fired to maintain competitive growth. This is based on the logic of firms competing to capture market share. There isn’t really a rational reason for this to need to happen under systems were the point is to accommodate human need, not to maximize profit.
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          +body: "Do you think the shareholders are active in problem solving? Workers include basically everyone but the shareholders. The tech guys, the executives, the managers."
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          +body: "Read the economy and class structure of german fascism if you want a detailed explanation for “scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds”"
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          +body: """
            > Because the fraction of the current world that reads every day and learns every day is extremely small.\n
            \n
            Socialist countries are famous for literacy and education drives\n
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            > Again, like I said before, how many people around you come back from work and want to read technical books and watch courses instead of chilling, or hanging out with friends? I have two friends who are nut jobs like me and work all the time. EVERYONE else is lazy and just wants to have fun after work, and that’s in my circle. This spans over decades in the different jobs and sectors I worked at, in different countries. Do you have a different experience around you? I have trouble convincing people to read for 30 minutes every day.\n
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            I dont think it is reasonable to assume humans will act the same way in all conditions. I know people who just slack off, and its generally because there is no incentive not to do the bare minimum when you are alienated from your labor
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            Better to have them making the decision than capitalists, who make more money for paying employees less\n
            \n
            Also who says half of them have to be fired? Can’t everyone just work less?
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          +body: """
            Your only question is “what am I missing” and the answer is an economics education.\n
            \n
            But to address your “concerns” you’re operating on the mindset of maximizing profit to compete against other firms maximizing profit, which is only a problem under capitalism (until you reach the monopoly stage)
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            > Late Victorian Age\n
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            It is literally a book about western liberal democracies committing genocide, including through intentionally creating famines.\n
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            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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          +body: "Read “riding the wave” fo learn about how Scandinavian countries are beneficiaries of the imperialist system"
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            I will repeat:\n
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            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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            > Maybe you’ll change your mind one day and understand why the world we live in is the way we live in.\n
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            This from the person who is spouting econ 101 nonsense.
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      > And yes, the only pro-Western nation ever falling into a serious Food-Crisis was… Haiti.\n
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      Read Late Victorian Holocausts if you want to be less wrong.\n
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      > Well, actually I am sharing “Wikipedia Propaganda” but if you want to call Wikipedia Nazi-Propaganda…\n
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      The holodomor was originally fabricated by a hearst press associate at a time when Mr Hearst and the third Reich were openly collaborating on spreading nazi propaganda in the US. The famine was bad but the myth that it was a genocide needs to die as it is literally nazi propaganda and was used as a justification for collaborating with the holocaust in Eastern Europe\n
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            > But to summarize. You basically want to wreck the current system on the basis that everyone will be diligent, reading all the time, just for the “greater good”, more so than their own profit.\n
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            No, that’s a strawman. People won’t all be diligent. But they will be more productive in general when they are not alienated from their labor. This has been proven with a bunch of economic data on socialist countries and data on cooperatives even within a capitalist environment.\n
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            You’re just literally describing capitalism and being like, what about this problem under socialism? The consequences are youre not contributing. Do you think everyone is suddenly going to be less motivated when they’re actually able to realize the product of their labor, instead of having a parasite on top taking it?
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            Thats it interesting scenario, but why are you assuming that there is a significant segment that won’t want to learn, especially when they’re no longer alienated from their labor? And why are you assuming that the total laborers will increase with new technology, when you can retrain existing workers?\n
            \n
            I dont think your scenario is realistic, it kinda reads as really misanthropic
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            No, overthrowing capitalism and beginning a transition to a more rational economic system increases your life expectancy. You can literally look up graphs.\n
            \n
            [statista.com/…/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041395/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/)
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          +body: "Yes. All of those countries had more civil rights and longer life expectancy after the revolution"
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            See you’re still trapped within the logic of capitalism which maximizes profits and expansion over other concerns.\n
            \n
            > So, assuming we want to keep everyone (including useless people who’d rather have beer instead of reading a book to learn the new stuff), the income of everyone will just go down over time. Eventually, with no one getting fire there won’t be enough money to go around to feed them. What am I missing here?\n
            \n
            These are all massive assumptions
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            Unfortunately in the case of econ 101, you are taught that 2+2=5 most modern econ is neoclassical, which means operating on pre-marx economics and just ignoring marxist critiques of the political economy.\n
            \n
            > and money falls from the sky, and everyone being lazy leads to growth, I’ll ask them to justify.\n
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            Thats a mighty strawman you invented. Workers are going to do the bare minimum to not get fired when it literally doesn’t matter how much they work, their income will be the same. When workers are invested in an organization, they do more work.
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          +body: "THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves."
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            Literally sharing nazi propaganda from Hearst press lol\n
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            Anyway, capitalism is known for never having famines or economic crises, especially not cyclical ones
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            You literally only have one question, the rest of it is opining.\n
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            You’re assuming a wage labor model and that people working twice as efficiently and at half intensity would result in decreased production.\n
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            1. wage labor models aren’t universal\n
            2. there is no reasoning stated for why production would go down\n
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            You’re assuming people would have to be fired to maintain competitive growth. This is based on the logic of firms competing to capture market share. There isn’t really a rational reason for this to need to happen under systems were the point is to accommodate human need, not to maximize profit.
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          +body: "Do you think the shareholders are active in problem solving? Workers include basically everyone but the shareholders. The tech guys, the executives, the managers."
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          +body: "Read the economy and class structure of german fascism if you want a detailed explanation for “scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds”"
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            > Because the fraction of the current world that reads every day and learns every day is extremely small.\n
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            Socialist countries are famous for literacy and education drives\n
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            > Again, like I said before, how many people around you come back from work and want to read technical books and watch courses instead of chilling, or hanging out with friends? I have two friends who are nut jobs like me and work all the time. EVERYONE else is lazy and just wants to have fun after work, and that’s in my circle. This spans over decades in the different jobs and sectors I worked at, in different countries. Do you have a different experience around you? I have trouble convincing people to read for 30 minutes every day.\n
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            I dont think it is reasonable to assume humans will act the same way in all conditions. I know people who just slack off, and its generally because there is no incentive not to do the bare minimum when you are alienated from your labor
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            Better to have them making the decision than capitalists, who make more money for paying employees less\n
            \n
            Also who says half of them have to be fired? Can’t everyone just work less?
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            Your only question is “what am I missing” and the answer is an economics education.\n
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            But to address your “concerns” you’re operating on the mindset of maximizing profit to compete against other firms maximizing profit, which is only a problem under capitalism (until you reach the monopoly stage)
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            > Late Victorian Age\n
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            It is literally a book about western liberal democracies committing genocide, including through intentionally creating famines.\n
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            > Oh, and you claim the Holodomor didn’t happen? Well, let me guess, Stalin also didn’t got 30 million sowiet people killed?\n
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            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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          +body: "Read “riding the wave” fo learn about how Scandinavian countries are beneficiaries of the imperialist system"
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            I will repeat:\n
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            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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            > Maybe you’ll change your mind one day and understand why the world we live in is the way we live in.\n
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            This from the person who is spouting econ 101 nonsense.
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      > And yes, the only pro-Western nation ever falling into a serious Food-Crisis was… Haiti.\n
      \n
      Read Late Victorian Holocausts if you want to be less wrong.\n
      \n
      > Well, actually I am sharing “Wikipedia Propaganda” but if you want to call Wikipedia Nazi-Propaganda…\n
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      The holodomor was originally fabricated by a hearst press associate at a time when Mr Hearst and the third Reich were openly collaborating on spreading nazi propaganda in the US. The famine was bad but the myth that it was a genocide needs to die as it is literally nazi propaganda and was used as a justification for collaborating with the holocaust in Eastern Europe\n
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      This is in fact the mainstream academic position. You may look to Conquest, Davies, and Wheatcroft, who are genuinely anticommunist historians, for their analysis (they all say it wasn’t a genocide)
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            > But to summarize. You basically want to wreck the current system on the basis that everyone will be diligent, reading all the time, just for the “greater good”, more so than their own profit.\n
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            No, that’s a strawman. People won’t all be diligent. But they will be more productive in general when they are not alienated from their labor. This has been proven with a bunch of economic data on socialist countries and data on cooperatives even within a capitalist environment.\n
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            > And btw, about the “bare minimum”. No one has a reason to not do the bare minimum as they don’t get fired (consequences). There will always be the lazy guy who does the bare minimum, and everyone will get lazier because they’ll get jealous with zero consequences.\n
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            You’re just literally describing capitalism and being like, what about this problem under socialism? The consequences are youre not contributing. Do you think everyone is suddenly going to be less motivated when they’re actually able to realize the product of their labor, instead of having a parasite on top taking it?
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            Thats it interesting scenario, but why are you assuming that there is a significant segment that won’t want to learn, especially when they’re no longer alienated from their labor? And why are you assuming that the total laborers will increase with new technology, when you can retrain existing workers?\n
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            I dont think your scenario is realistic, it kinda reads as really misanthropic
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            No, overthrowing capitalism and beginning a transition to a more rational economic system increases your life expectancy. You can literally look up graphs.\n
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            [statista.com/…/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041395/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/)
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            See you’re still trapped within the logic of capitalism which maximizes profits and expansion over other concerns.\n
            \n
            > So, assuming we want to keep everyone (including useless people who’d rather have beer instead of reading a book to learn the new stuff), the income of everyone will just go down over time. Eventually, with no one getting fire there won’t be enough money to go around to feed them. What am I missing here?\n
            \n
            These are all massive assumptions
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            Unfortunately in the case of econ 101, you are taught that 2+2=5 most modern econ is neoclassical, which means operating on pre-marx economics and just ignoring marxist critiques of the political economy.\n
            \n
            > and money falls from the sky, and everyone being lazy leads to growth, I’ll ask them to justify.\n
            \n
            Thats a mighty strawman you invented. Workers are going to do the bare minimum to not get fired when it literally doesn’t matter how much they work, their income will be the same. When workers are invested in an organization, they do more work.
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          +body: "THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves."
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            Literally sharing nazi propaganda from Hearst press lol\n
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            Anyway, capitalism is known for never having famines or economic crises, especially not cyclical ones
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            You literally only have one question, the rest of it is opining.\n
            \n
            You’re assuming a wage labor model and that people working twice as efficiently and at half intensity would result in decreased production.\n
            \n
            1. wage labor models aren’t universal\n
            2. there is no reasoning stated for why production would go down\n
            \n
            You’re assuming people would have to be fired to maintain competitive growth. This is based on the logic of firms competing to capture market share. There isn’t really a rational reason for this to need to happen under systems were the point is to accommodate human need, not to maximize profit.
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          +body: "Do you think the shareholders are active in problem solving? Workers include basically everyone but the shareholders. The tech guys, the executives, the managers."
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          +body: "Read the economy and class structure of german fascism if you want a detailed explanation for “scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds”"
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            > Because the fraction of the current world that reads every day and learns every day is extremely small.\n
            \n
            Socialist countries are famous for literacy and education drives\n
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            > Again, like I said before, how many people around you come back from work and want to read technical books and watch courses instead of chilling, or hanging out with friends? I have two friends who are nut jobs like me and work all the time. EVERYONE else is lazy and just wants to have fun after work, and that’s in my circle. This spans over decades in the different jobs and sectors I worked at, in different countries. Do you have a different experience around you? I have trouble convincing people to read for 30 minutes every day.\n
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            I dont think it is reasonable to assume humans will act the same way in all conditions. I know people who just slack off, and its generally because there is no incentive not to do the bare minimum when you are alienated from your labor
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            Better to have them making the decision than capitalists, who make more money for paying employees less\n
            \n
            Also who says half of them have to be fired? Can’t everyone just work less?
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            Your only question is “what am I missing” and the answer is an economics education.\n
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            But to address your “concerns” you’re operating on the mindset of maximizing profit to compete against other firms maximizing profit, which is only a problem under capitalism (until you reach the monopoly stage)
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            > Late Victorian Age\n
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            It is literally a book about western liberal democracies committing genocide, including through intentionally creating famines.\n
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            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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            > Maybe you’ll change your mind one day and understand why the world we live in is the way we live in.\n
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            This from the person who is spouting econ 101 nonsense.
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      > And yes, the only pro-Western nation ever falling into a serious Food-Crisis was… Haiti.\n
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      Read Late Victorian Holocausts if you want to be less wrong.\n
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      The holodomor was originally fabricated by a hearst press associate at a time when Mr Hearst and the third Reich were openly collaborating on spreading nazi propaganda in the US. The famine was bad but the myth that it was a genocide needs to die as it is literally nazi propaganda and was used as a justification for collaborating with the holocaust in Eastern Europe\n
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            > But to summarize. You basically want to wreck the current system on the basis that everyone will be diligent, reading all the time, just for the “greater good”, more so than their own profit.\n
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            No, that’s a strawman. People won’t all be diligent. But they will be more productive in general when they are not alienated from their labor. This has been proven with a bunch of economic data on socialist countries and data on cooperatives even within a capitalist environment.\n
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            You’re just literally describing capitalism and being like, what about this problem under socialism? The consequences are youre not contributing. Do you think everyone is suddenly going to be less motivated when they’re actually able to realize the product of their labor, instead of having a parasite on top taking it?
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            Thats it interesting scenario, but why are you assuming that there is a significant segment that won’t want to learn, especially when they’re no longer alienated from their labor? And why are you assuming that the total laborers will increase with new technology, when you can retrain existing workers?\n
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            I dont think your scenario is realistic, it kinda reads as really misanthropic
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            No, overthrowing capitalism and beginning a transition to a more rational economic system increases your life expectancy. You can literally look up graphs.\n
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            [statista.com/…/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041395/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/)
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          +body: "Yes. All of those countries had more civil rights and longer life expectancy after the revolution"
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            See you’re still trapped within the logic of capitalism which maximizes profits and expansion over other concerns.\n
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            > So, assuming we want to keep everyone (including useless people who’d rather have beer instead of reading a book to learn the new stuff), the income of everyone will just go down over time. Eventually, with no one getting fire there won’t be enough money to go around to feed them. What am I missing here?\n
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            These are all massive assumptions
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            Unfortunately in the case of econ 101, you are taught that 2+2=5 most modern econ is neoclassical, which means operating on pre-marx economics and just ignoring marxist critiques of the political economy.\n
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            > and money falls from the sky, and everyone being lazy leads to growth, I’ll ask them to justify.\n
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            Thats a mighty strawman you invented. Workers are going to do the bare minimum to not get fired when it literally doesn’t matter how much they work, their income will be the same. When workers are invested in an organization, they do more work.
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          +body: "THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves."
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            Literally sharing nazi propaganda from Hearst press lol\n
            \n
            Anyway, capitalism is known for never having famines or economic crises, especially not cyclical ones
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            You literally only have one question, the rest of it is opining.\n
            \n
            You’re assuming a wage labor model and that people working twice as efficiently and at half intensity would result in decreased production.\n
            \n
            1. wage labor models aren’t universal\n
            2. there is no reasoning stated for why production would go down\n
            \n
            You’re assuming people would have to be fired to maintain competitive growth. This is based on the logic of firms competing to capture market share. There isn’t really a rational reason for this to need to happen under systems were the point is to accommodate human need, not to maximize profit.
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          +body: "Do you think the shareholders are active in problem solving? Workers include basically everyone but the shareholders. The tech guys, the executives, the managers."
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          +body: "Read the economy and class structure of german fascism if you want a detailed explanation for “scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds”"
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        2 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#2115
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          +body: """
            > Because the fraction of the current world that reads every day and learns every day is extremely small.\n
            \n
            Socialist countries are famous for literacy and education drives\n
            \n
            > Again, like I said before, how many people around you come back from work and want to read technical books and watch courses instead of chilling, or hanging out with friends? I have two friends who are nut jobs like me and work all the time. EVERYONE else is lazy and just wants to have fun after work, and that’s in my circle. This spans over decades in the different jobs and sectors I worked at, in different countries. Do you have a different experience around you? I have trouble convincing people to read for 30 minutes every day.\n
            \n
            I dont think it is reasonable to assume humans will act the same way in all conditions. I know people who just slack off, and its generally because there is no incentive not to do the bare minimum when you are alienated from your labor
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            Better to have them making the decision than capitalists, who make more money for paying employees less\n
            \n
            Also who says half of them have to be fired? Can’t everyone just work less?
            """
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          +body: """
            Your only question is “what am I missing” and the answer is an economics education.\n
            \n
            But to address your “concerns” you’re operating on the mindset of maximizing profit to compete against other firms maximizing profit, which is only a problem under capitalism (until you reach the monopoly stage)
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          +body: """
            > Late Victorian Age\n
            \n
            It is literally a book about western liberal democracies committing genocide, including through intentionally creating famines.\n
            \n
            > Oh, and you claim the Holodomor didn’t happen? Well, let me guess, Stalin also didn’t got 30 million sowiet people killed?\n
            \n
            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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          +body: "Read “riding the wave” fo learn about how Scandinavian countries are beneficiaries of the imperialist system"
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          +body: """
            I will repeat:\n
            \n
            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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        0 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#2094
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          +body: """
            > Maybe you’ll change your mind one day and understand why the world we live in is the way we live in.\n
            \n
            This from the person who is spouting econ 101 nonsense.
            """
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      > And yes, the only pro-Western nation ever falling into a serious Food-Crisis was… Haiti.\n
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      Read Late Victorian Holocausts if you want to be less wrong.\n
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      > Well, actually I am sharing “Wikipedia Propaganda” but if you want to call Wikipedia Nazi-Propaganda…\n
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      The holodomor was originally fabricated by a hearst press associate at a time when Mr Hearst and the third Reich were openly collaborating on spreading nazi propaganda in the US. The famine was bad but the myth that it was a genocide needs to die as it is literally nazi propaganda and was used as a justification for collaborating with the holocaust in Eastern Europe\n
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            > But to summarize. You basically want to wreck the current system on the basis that everyone will be diligent, reading all the time, just for the “greater good”, more so than their own profit.\n
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            You’re just literally describing capitalism and being like, what about this problem under socialism? The consequences are youre not contributing. Do you think everyone is suddenly going to be less motivated when they’re actually able to realize the product of their labor, instead of having a parasite on top taking it?
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            Thats it interesting scenario, but why are you assuming that there is a significant segment that won’t want to learn, especially when they’re no longer alienated from their labor? And why are you assuming that the total laborers will increase with new technology, when you can retrain existing workers?\n
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            No, overthrowing capitalism and beginning a transition to a more rational economic system increases your life expectancy. You can literally look up graphs.\n
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            [statista.com/…/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041395/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/)
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          +body: "Yes. All of those countries had more civil rights and longer life expectancy after the revolution"
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            See you’re still trapped within the logic of capitalism which maximizes profits and expansion over other concerns.\n
            \n
            > So, assuming we want to keep everyone (including useless people who’d rather have beer instead of reading a book to learn the new stuff), the income of everyone will just go down over time. Eventually, with no one getting fire there won’t be enough money to go around to feed them. What am I missing here?\n
            \n
            These are all massive assumptions
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            Unfortunately in the case of econ 101, you are taught that 2+2=5 most modern econ is neoclassical, which means operating on pre-marx economics and just ignoring marxist critiques of the political economy.\n
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            > and money falls from the sky, and everyone being lazy leads to growth, I’ll ask them to justify.\n
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            Thats a mighty strawman you invented. Workers are going to do the bare minimum to not get fired when it literally doesn’t matter how much they work, their income will be the same. When workers are invested in an organization, they do more work.
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          +body: "THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves."
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            Literally sharing nazi propaganda from Hearst press lol\n
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            Anyway, capitalism is known for never having famines or economic crises, especially not cyclical ones
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            You literally only have one question, the rest of it is opining.\n
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            You’re assuming a wage labor model and that people working twice as efficiently and at half intensity would result in decreased production.\n
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            1. wage labor models aren’t universal\n
            2. there is no reasoning stated for why production would go down\n
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            You’re assuming people would have to be fired to maintain competitive growth. This is based on the logic of firms competing to capture market share. There isn’t really a rational reason for this to need to happen under systems were the point is to accommodate human need, not to maximize profit.
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            > Because the fraction of the current world that reads every day and learns every day is extremely small.\n
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            Socialist countries are famous for literacy and education drives\n
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            > Again, like I said before, how many people around you come back from work and want to read technical books and watch courses instead of chilling, or hanging out with friends? I have two friends who are nut jobs like me and work all the time. EVERYONE else is lazy and just wants to have fun after work, and that’s in my circle. This spans over decades in the different jobs and sectors I worked at, in different countries. Do you have a different experience around you? I have trouble convincing people to read for 30 minutes every day.\n
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            Better to have them making the decision than capitalists, who make more money for paying employees less\n
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            Also who says half of them have to be fired? Can’t everyone just work less?
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            Your only question is “what am I missing” and the answer is an economics education.\n
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            But to address your “concerns” you’re operating on the mindset of maximizing profit to compete against other firms maximizing profit, which is only a problem under capitalism (until you reach the monopoly stage)
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            > Late Victorian Age\n
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            It is literally a book about western liberal democracies committing genocide, including through intentionally creating famines.\n
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            > Oh, and you claim the Holodomor didn’t happen? Well, let me guess, Stalin also didn’t got 30 million sowiet people killed?\n
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            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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          +body: "Read “riding the wave” fo learn about how Scandinavian countries are beneficiaries of the imperialist system"
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            I will repeat:\n
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            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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            > Maybe you’ll change your mind one day and understand why the world we live in is the way we live in.\n
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            This from the person who is spouting econ 101 nonsense.
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      > And yes, the only pro-Western nation ever falling into a serious Food-Crisis was… Haiti.\n
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      Read Late Victorian Holocausts if you want to be less wrong.\n
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      > Well, actually I am sharing “Wikipedia Propaganda” but if you want to call Wikipedia Nazi-Propaganda…\n
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      The holodomor was originally fabricated by a hearst press associate at a time when Mr Hearst and the third Reich were openly collaborating on spreading nazi propaganda in the US. The famine was bad but the myth that it was a genocide needs to die as it is literally nazi propaganda and was used as a justification for collaborating with the holocaust in Eastern Europe\n
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            > But to summarize. You basically want to wreck the current system on the basis that everyone will be diligent, reading all the time, just for the “greater good”, more so than their own profit.\n
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            No, that’s a strawman. People won’t all be diligent. But they will be more productive in general when they are not alienated from their labor. This has been proven with a bunch of economic data on socialist countries and data on cooperatives even within a capitalist environment.\n
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            > And btw, about the “bare minimum”. No one has a reason to not do the bare minimum as they don’t get fired (consequences). There will always be the lazy guy who does the bare minimum, and everyone will get lazier because they’ll get jealous with zero consequences.\n
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            You’re just literally describing capitalism and being like, what about this problem under socialism? The consequences are youre not contributing. Do you think everyone is suddenly going to be less motivated when they’re actually able to realize the product of their labor, instead of having a parasite on top taking it?
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            Thats it interesting scenario, but why are you assuming that there is a significant segment that won’t want to learn, especially when they’re no longer alienated from their labor? And why are you assuming that the total laborers will increase with new technology, when you can retrain existing workers?\n
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            I dont think your scenario is realistic, it kinda reads as really misanthropic
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            No, overthrowing capitalism and beginning a transition to a more rational economic system increases your life expectancy. You can literally look up graphs.\n
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            [statista.com/…/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041395/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/)
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            See you’re still trapped within the logic of capitalism which maximizes profits and expansion over other concerns.\n
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            > So, assuming we want to keep everyone (including useless people who’d rather have beer instead of reading a book to learn the new stuff), the income of everyone will just go down over time. Eventually, with no one getting fire there won’t be enough money to go around to feed them. What am I missing here?\n
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            These are all massive assumptions
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            Unfortunately in the case of econ 101, you are taught that 2+2=5 most modern econ is neoclassical, which means operating on pre-marx economics and just ignoring marxist critiques of the political economy.\n
            \n
            > and money falls from the sky, and everyone being lazy leads to growth, I’ll ask them to justify.\n
            \n
            Thats a mighty strawman you invented. Workers are going to do the bare minimum to not get fired when it literally doesn’t matter how much they work, their income will be the same. When workers are invested in an organization, they do more work.
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          +body: "THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves."
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            Literally sharing nazi propaganda from Hearst press lol\n
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            Anyway, capitalism is known for never having famines or economic crises, especially not cyclical ones
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            You literally only have one question, the rest of it is opining.\n
            \n
            You’re assuming a wage labor model and that people working twice as efficiently and at half intensity would result in decreased production.\n
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            1. wage labor models aren’t universal\n
            2. there is no reasoning stated for why production would go down\n
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            You’re assuming people would have to be fired to maintain competitive growth. This is based on the logic of firms competing to capture market share. There isn’t really a rational reason for this to need to happen under systems were the point is to accommodate human need, not to maximize profit.
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          +body: "Do you think the shareholders are active in problem solving? Workers include basically everyone but the shareholders. The tech guys, the executives, the managers."
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          +body: "Read the economy and class structure of german fascism if you want a detailed explanation for “scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds”"
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          +body: """
            > And yes, the only pro-Western nation ever falling into a serious Food-Crisis was… Haiti.\n
            \n
            Read Late Victorian Holocausts if you want to be less wrong.\n
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            > Well, actually I am sharing “Wikipedia Propaganda” but if you want to call Wikipedia Nazi-Propaganda…\n
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            The holodomor was originally fabricated by a hearst press associate at a time when Mr Hearst and the third Reich were openly collaborating on spreading nazi propaganda in the US. The famine was bad but the myth that it was a genocide needs to die as it is literally nazi propaganda and was used as a justification for collaborating with the holocaust in Eastern Europe\n
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            This is in fact the mainstream academic position. You may look to Conquest, Davies, and Wheatcroft, who are genuinely anticommunist historians, for their analysis (they all say it wasn’t a genocide)
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            Better to have them making the decision than capitalists, who make more money for paying employees less\n
            \n
            Also who says half of them have to be fired? Can’t everyone just work less?
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            Your only question is “what am I missing” and the answer is an economics education.\n
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            But to address your “concerns” you’re operating on the mindset of maximizing profit to compete against other firms maximizing profit, which is only a problem under capitalism (until you reach the monopoly stage)
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            > Late Victorian Age\n
            \n
            It is literally a book about western liberal democracies committing genocide, including through intentionally creating famines.\n
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            > Oh, and you claim the Holodomor didn’t happen? Well, let me guess, Stalin also didn’t got 30 million sowiet people killed?\n
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            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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            I will repeat:\n
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            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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            > Maybe you’ll change your mind one day and understand why the world we live in is the way we live in.\n
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            This from the person who is spouting econ 101 nonsense.
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      > Because the fraction of the current world that reads every day and learns every day is extremely small.\n
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      Socialist countries are famous for literacy and education drives\n
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      > Again, like I said before, how many people around you come back from work and want to read technical books and watch courses instead of chilling, or hanging out with friends? I have two friends who are nut jobs like me and work all the time. EVERYONE else is lazy and just wants to have fun after work, and that’s in my circle. This spans over decades in the different jobs and sectors I worked at, in different countries. Do you have a different experience around you? I have trouble convincing people to read for 30 minutes every day.\n
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            > But to summarize. You basically want to wreck the current system on the basis that everyone will be diligent, reading all the time, just for the “greater good”, more so than their own profit.\n
            \n
            No, that’s a strawman. People won’t all be diligent. But they will be more productive in general when they are not alienated from their labor. This has been proven with a bunch of economic data on socialist countries and data on cooperatives even within a capitalist environment.\n
            \n
            > And btw, about the “bare minimum”. No one has a reason to not do the bare minimum as they don’t get fired (consequences). There will always be the lazy guy who does the bare minimum, and everyone will get lazier because they’ll get jealous with zero consequences.\n
            \n
            You’re just literally describing capitalism and being like, what about this problem under socialism? The consequences are youre not contributing. Do you think everyone is suddenly going to be less motivated when they’re actually able to realize the product of their labor, instead of having a parasite on top taking it?
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            Thats it interesting scenario, but why are you assuming that there is a significant segment that won’t want to learn, especially when they’re no longer alienated from their labor? And why are you assuming that the total laborers will increase with new technology, when you can retrain existing workers?\n
            \n
            I dont think your scenario is realistic, it kinda reads as really misanthropic
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            No, overthrowing capitalism and beginning a transition to a more rational economic system increases your life expectancy. You can literally look up graphs.\n
            \n
            [statista.com/…/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041395/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/)
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          +body: "Yes. All of those countries had more civil rights and longer life expectancy after the revolution"
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            See you’re still trapped within the logic of capitalism which maximizes profits and expansion over other concerns.\n
            \n
            > So, assuming we want to keep everyone (including useless people who’d rather have beer instead of reading a book to learn the new stuff), the income of everyone will just go down over time. Eventually, with no one getting fire there won’t be enough money to go around to feed them. What am I missing here?\n
            \n
            These are all massive assumptions
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            Unfortunately in the case of econ 101, you are taught that 2+2=5 most modern econ is neoclassical, which means operating on pre-marx economics and just ignoring marxist critiques of the political economy.\n
            \n
            > and money falls from the sky, and everyone being lazy leads to growth, I’ll ask them to justify.\n
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            Thats a mighty strawman you invented. Workers are going to do the bare minimum to not get fired when it literally doesn’t matter how much they work, their income will be the same. When workers are invested in an organization, they do more work.
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          +body: "THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves."
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            Literally sharing nazi propaganda from Hearst press lol\n
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            Anyway, capitalism is known for never having famines or economic crises, especially not cyclical ones
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            You literally only have one question, the rest of it is opining.\n
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            You’re assuming a wage labor model and that people working twice as efficiently and at half intensity would result in decreased production.\n
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            1. wage labor models aren’t universal\n
            2. there is no reasoning stated for why production would go down\n
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            You’re assuming people would have to be fired to maintain competitive growth. This is based on the logic of firms competing to capture market share. There isn’t really a rational reason for this to need to happen under systems were the point is to accommodate human need, not to maximize profit.
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          +body: "Do you think the shareholders are active in problem solving? Workers include basically everyone but the shareholders. The tech guys, the executives, the managers."
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          +body: "Read the economy and class structure of german fascism if you want a detailed explanation for “scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds”"
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            > And yes, the only pro-Western nation ever falling into a serious Food-Crisis was… Haiti.\n
            \n
            Read Late Victorian Holocausts if you want to be less wrong.\n
            \n
            > Well, actually I am sharing “Wikipedia Propaganda” but if you want to call Wikipedia Nazi-Propaganda…\n
            \n
            The holodomor was originally fabricated by a hearst press associate at a time when Mr Hearst and the third Reich were openly collaborating on spreading nazi propaganda in the US. The famine was bad but the myth that it was a genocide needs to die as it is literally nazi propaganda and was used as a justification for collaborating with the holocaust in Eastern Europe\n
            \n
            This is in fact the mainstream academic position. You may look to Conquest, Davies, and Wheatcroft, who are genuinely anticommunist historians, for their analysis (they all say it wasn’t a genocide)
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            Better to have them making the decision than capitalists, who make more money for paying employees less\n
            \n
            Also who says half of them have to be fired? Can’t everyone just work less?
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            Your only question is “what am I missing” and the answer is an economics education.\n
            \n
            But to address your “concerns” you’re operating on the mindset of maximizing profit to compete against other firms maximizing profit, which is only a problem under capitalism (until you reach the monopoly stage)
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            > Late Victorian Age\n
            \n
            It is literally a book about western liberal democracies committing genocide, including through intentionally creating famines.\n
            \n
            > Oh, and you claim the Holodomor didn’t happen? Well, let me guess, Stalin also didn’t got 30 million sowiet people killed?\n
            \n
            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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          +body: "Read “riding the wave” fo learn about how Scandinavian countries are beneficiaries of the imperialist system"
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          +body: """
            I will repeat:\n
            \n
            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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        0 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#2094
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          +body: """
            > Maybe you’ll change your mind one day and understand why the world we live in is the way we live in.\n
            \n
            This from the person who is spouting econ 101 nonsense.
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      > Because the fraction of the current world that reads every day and learns every day is extremely small.\n
      \n
      Socialist countries are famous for literacy and education drives\n
      \n
      > Again, like I said before, how many people around you come back from work and want to read technical books and watch courses instead of chilling, or hanging out with friends? I have two friends who are nut jobs like me and work all the time. EVERYONE else is lazy and just wants to have fun after work, and that’s in my circle. This spans over decades in the different jobs and sectors I worked at, in different countries. Do you have a different experience around you? I have trouble convincing people to read for 30 minutes every day.\n
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            > But to summarize. You basically want to wreck the current system on the basis that everyone will be diligent, reading all the time, just for the “greater good”, more so than their own profit.\n
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            No, that’s a strawman. People won’t all be diligent. But they will be more productive in general when they are not alienated from their labor. This has been proven with a bunch of economic data on socialist countries and data on cooperatives even within a capitalist environment.\n
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            > And btw, about the “bare minimum”. No one has a reason to not do the bare minimum as they don’t get fired (consequences). There will always be the lazy guy who does the bare minimum, and everyone will get lazier because they’ll get jealous with zero consequences.\n
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            You’re just literally describing capitalism and being like, what about this problem under socialism? The consequences are youre not contributing. Do you think everyone is suddenly going to be less motivated when they’re actually able to realize the product of their labor, instead of having a parasite on top taking it?
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            Thats it interesting scenario, but why are you assuming that there is a significant segment that won’t want to learn, especially when they’re no longer alienated from their labor? And why are you assuming that the total laborers will increase with new technology, when you can retrain existing workers?\n
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            I dont think your scenario is realistic, it kinda reads as really misanthropic
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            No, overthrowing capitalism and beginning a transition to a more rational economic system increases your life expectancy. You can literally look up graphs.\n
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            [statista.com/…/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041395/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/)
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          +body: "Yes. All of those countries had more civil rights and longer life expectancy after the revolution"
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            See you’re still trapped within the logic of capitalism which maximizes profits and expansion over other concerns.\n
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            > So, assuming we want to keep everyone (including useless people who’d rather have beer instead of reading a book to learn the new stuff), the income of everyone will just go down over time. Eventually, with no one getting fire there won’t be enough money to go around to feed them. What am I missing here?\n
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            These are all massive assumptions
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            Unfortunately in the case of econ 101, you are taught that 2+2=5 most modern econ is neoclassical, which means operating on pre-marx economics and just ignoring marxist critiques of the political economy.\n
            \n
            > and money falls from the sky, and everyone being lazy leads to growth, I’ll ask them to justify.\n
            \n
            Thats a mighty strawman you invented. Workers are going to do the bare minimum to not get fired when it literally doesn’t matter how much they work, their income will be the same. When workers are invested in an organization, they do more work.
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          +body: "THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves."
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            Literally sharing nazi propaganda from Hearst press lol\n
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            Anyway, capitalism is known for never having famines or economic crises, especially not cyclical ones
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            You literally only have one question, the rest of it is opining.\n
            \n
            You’re assuming a wage labor model and that people working twice as efficiently and at half intensity would result in decreased production.\n
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            1. wage labor models aren’t universal\n
            2. there is no reasoning stated for why production would go down\n
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            You’re assuming people would have to be fired to maintain competitive growth. This is based on the logic of firms competing to capture market share. There isn’t really a rational reason for this to need to happen under systems were the point is to accommodate human need, not to maximize profit.
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          +body: "Do you think the shareholders are active in problem solving? Workers include basically everyone but the shareholders. The tech guys, the executives, the managers."
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          +body: "Read the economy and class structure of german fascism if you want a detailed explanation for “scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds”"
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            > And yes, the only pro-Western nation ever falling into a serious Food-Crisis was… Haiti.\n
            \n
            Read Late Victorian Holocausts if you want to be less wrong.\n
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            > Well, actually I am sharing “Wikipedia Propaganda” but if you want to call Wikipedia Nazi-Propaganda…\n
            \n
            The holodomor was originally fabricated by a hearst press associate at a time when Mr Hearst and the third Reich were openly collaborating on spreading nazi propaganda in the US. The famine was bad but the myth that it was a genocide needs to die as it is literally nazi propaganda and was used as a justification for collaborating with the holocaust in Eastern Europe\n
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            This is in fact the mainstream academic position. You may look to Conquest, Davies, and Wheatcroft, who are genuinely anticommunist historians, for their analysis (they all say it wasn’t a genocide)
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            Better to have them making the decision than capitalists, who make more money for paying employees less\n
            \n
            Also who says half of them have to be fired? Can’t everyone just work less?
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            Your only question is “what am I missing” and the answer is an economics education.\n
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            But to address your “concerns” you’re operating on the mindset of maximizing profit to compete against other firms maximizing profit, which is only a problem under capitalism (until you reach the monopoly stage)
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            > Late Victorian Age\n
            \n
            It is literally a book about western liberal democracies committing genocide, including through intentionally creating famines.\n
            \n
            > Oh, and you claim the Holodomor didn’t happen? Well, let me guess, Stalin also didn’t got 30 million sowiet people killed?\n
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            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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            > Maybe you’ll change your mind one day and understand why the world we live in is the way we live in.\n
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            This from the person who is spouting econ 101 nonsense.
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      > Because the fraction of the current world that reads every day and learns every day is extremely small.\n
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      Socialist countries are famous for literacy and education drives\n
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      > Again, like I said before, how many people around you come back from work and want to read technical books and watch courses instead of chilling, or hanging out with friends? I have two friends who are nut jobs like me and work all the time. EVERYONE else is lazy and just wants to have fun after work, and that’s in my circle. This spans over decades in the different jobs and sectors I worked at, in different countries. Do you have a different experience around you? I have trouble convincing people to read for 30 minutes every day.\n
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            > But to summarize. You basically want to wreck the current system on the basis that everyone will be diligent, reading all the time, just for the “greater good”, more so than their own profit.\n
            \n
            No, that’s a strawman. People won’t all be diligent. But they will be more productive in general when they are not alienated from their labor. This has been proven with a bunch of economic data on socialist countries and data on cooperatives even within a capitalist environment.\n
            \n
            > And btw, about the “bare minimum”. No one has a reason to not do the bare minimum as they don’t get fired (consequences). There will always be the lazy guy who does the bare minimum, and everyone will get lazier because they’ll get jealous with zero consequences.\n
            \n
            You’re just literally describing capitalism and being like, what about this problem under socialism? The consequences are youre not contributing. Do you think everyone is suddenly going to be less motivated when they’re actually able to realize the product of their labor, instead of having a parasite on top taking it?
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            Thats it interesting scenario, but why are you assuming that there is a significant segment that won’t want to learn, especially when they’re no longer alienated from their labor? And why are you assuming that the total laborers will increase with new technology, when you can retrain existing workers?\n
            \n
            I dont think your scenario is realistic, it kinda reads as really misanthropic
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            No, overthrowing capitalism and beginning a transition to a more rational economic system increases your life expectancy. You can literally look up graphs.\n
            \n
            [statista.com/…/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041395/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/)
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          +body: "Yes. All of those countries had more civil rights and longer life expectancy after the revolution"
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            See you’re still trapped within the logic of capitalism which maximizes profits and expansion over other concerns.\n
            \n
            > So, assuming we want to keep everyone (including useless people who’d rather have beer instead of reading a book to learn the new stuff), the income of everyone will just go down over time. Eventually, with no one getting fire there won’t be enough money to go around to feed them. What am I missing here?\n
            \n
            These are all massive assumptions
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            Unfortunately in the case of econ 101, you are taught that 2+2=5 most modern econ is neoclassical, which means operating on pre-marx economics and just ignoring marxist critiques of the political economy.\n
            \n
            > and money falls from the sky, and everyone being lazy leads to growth, I’ll ask them to justify.\n
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            Thats a mighty strawman you invented. Workers are going to do the bare minimum to not get fired when it literally doesn’t matter how much they work, their income will be the same. When workers are invested in an organization, they do more work.
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          +body: "THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves."
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            Literally sharing nazi propaganda from Hearst press lol\n
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            Anyway, capitalism is known for never having famines or economic crises, especially not cyclical ones
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            You literally only have one question, the rest of it is opining.\n
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            You’re assuming a wage labor model and that people working twice as efficiently and at half intensity would result in decreased production.\n
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            1. wage labor models aren’t universal\n
            2. there is no reasoning stated for why production would go down\n
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            You’re assuming people would have to be fired to maintain competitive growth. This is based on the logic of firms competing to capture market share. There isn’t really a rational reason for this to need to happen under systems were the point is to accommodate human need, not to maximize profit.
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          +body: "Do you think the shareholders are active in problem solving? Workers include basically everyone but the shareholders. The tech guys, the executives, the managers."
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          +body: "Read the economy and class structure of german fascism if you want a detailed explanation for “scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds”"
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            > And yes, the only pro-Western nation ever falling into a serious Food-Crisis was… Haiti.\n
            \n
            Read Late Victorian Holocausts if you want to be less wrong.\n
            \n
            > Well, actually I am sharing “Wikipedia Propaganda” but if you want to call Wikipedia Nazi-Propaganda…\n
            \n
            The holodomor was originally fabricated by a hearst press associate at a time when Mr Hearst and the third Reich were openly collaborating on spreading nazi propaganda in the US. The famine was bad but the myth that it was a genocide needs to die as it is literally nazi propaganda and was used as a justification for collaborating with the holocaust in Eastern Europe\n
            \n
            This is in fact the mainstream academic position. You may look to Conquest, Davies, and Wheatcroft, who are genuinely anticommunist historians, for their analysis (they all say it wasn’t a genocide)
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            Better to have them making the decision than capitalists, who make more money for paying employees less\n
            \n
            Also who says half of them have to be fired? Can’t everyone just work less?
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            Your only question is “what am I missing” and the answer is an economics education.\n
            \n
            But to address your “concerns” you’re operating on the mindset of maximizing profit to compete against other firms maximizing profit, which is only a problem under capitalism (until you reach the monopoly stage)
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            > Late Victorian Age\n
            \n
            It is literally a book about western liberal democracies committing genocide, including through intentionally creating famines.\n
            \n
            > Oh, and you claim the Holodomor didn’t happen? Well, let me guess, Stalin also didn’t got 30 million sowiet people killed?\n
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            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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          +body: "Read “riding the wave” fo learn about how Scandinavian countries are beneficiaries of the imperialist system"
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            I will repeat:\n
            \n
            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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        0 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#2094
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          +body: """
            > Maybe you’ll change your mind one day and understand why the world we live in is the way we live in.\n
            \n
            This from the person who is spouting econ 101 nonsense.
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      > Because the fraction of the current world that reads every day and learns every day is extremely small.\n
      \n
      Socialist countries are famous for literacy and education drives\n
      \n
      > Again, like I said before, how many people around you come back from work and want to read technical books and watch courses instead of chilling, or hanging out with friends? I have two friends who are nut jobs like me and work all the time. EVERYONE else is lazy and just wants to have fun after work, and that’s in my circle. This spans over decades in the different jobs and sectors I worked at, in different countries. Do you have a different experience around you? I have trouble convincing people to read for 30 minutes every day.\n
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            > But to summarize. You basically want to wreck the current system on the basis that everyone will be diligent, reading all the time, just for the “greater good”, more so than their own profit.\n
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            You’re just literally describing capitalism and being like, what about this problem under socialism? The consequences are youre not contributing. Do you think everyone is suddenly going to be less motivated when they’re actually able to realize the product of their labor, instead of having a parasite on top taking it?
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            Thats it interesting scenario, but why are you assuming that there is a significant segment that won’t want to learn, especially when they’re no longer alienated from their labor? And why are you assuming that the total laborers will increase with new technology, when you can retrain existing workers?\n
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            No, overthrowing capitalism and beginning a transition to a more rational economic system increases your life expectancy. You can literally look up graphs.\n
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            [statista.com/…/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041395/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/)
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          +body: "Yes. All of those countries had more civil rights and longer life expectancy after the revolution"
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            See you’re still trapped within the logic of capitalism which maximizes profits and expansion over other concerns.\n
            \n
            > So, assuming we want to keep everyone (including useless people who’d rather have beer instead of reading a book to learn the new stuff), the income of everyone will just go down over time. Eventually, with no one getting fire there won’t be enough money to go around to feed them. What am I missing here?\n
            \n
            These are all massive assumptions
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            Unfortunately in the case of econ 101, you are taught that 2+2=5 most modern econ is neoclassical, which means operating on pre-marx economics and just ignoring marxist critiques of the political economy.\n
            \n
            > and money falls from the sky, and everyone being lazy leads to growth, I’ll ask them to justify.\n
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            Thats a mighty strawman you invented. Workers are going to do the bare minimum to not get fired when it literally doesn’t matter how much they work, their income will be the same. When workers are invested in an organization, they do more work.
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          +body: "THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves."
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            Literally sharing nazi propaganda from Hearst press lol\n
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            Anyway, capitalism is known for never having famines or economic crises, especially not cyclical ones
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            You literally only have one question, the rest of it is opining.\n
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            You’re assuming a wage labor model and that people working twice as efficiently and at half intensity would result in decreased production.\n
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            1. wage labor models aren’t universal\n
            2. there is no reasoning stated for why production would go down\n
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            You’re assuming people would have to be fired to maintain competitive growth. This is based on the logic of firms competing to capture market share. There isn’t really a rational reason for this to need to happen under systems were the point is to accommodate human need, not to maximize profit.
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          +body: "Do you think the shareholders are active in problem solving? Workers include basically everyone but the shareholders. The tech guys, the executives, the managers."
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          +body: "Read the economy and class structure of german fascism if you want a detailed explanation for “scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds”"
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          +body: """
            > And yes, the only pro-Western nation ever falling into a serious Food-Crisis was… Haiti.\n
            \n
            Read Late Victorian Holocausts if you want to be less wrong.\n
            \n
            > Well, actually I am sharing “Wikipedia Propaganda” but if you want to call Wikipedia Nazi-Propaganda…\n
            \n
            The holodomor was originally fabricated by a hearst press associate at a time when Mr Hearst and the third Reich were openly collaborating on spreading nazi propaganda in the US. The famine was bad but the myth that it was a genocide needs to die as it is literally nazi propaganda and was used as a justification for collaborating with the holocaust in Eastern Europe\n
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            This is in fact the mainstream academic position. You may look to Conquest, Davies, and Wheatcroft, who are genuinely anticommunist historians, for their analysis (they all say it wasn’t a genocide)
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            Better to have them making the decision than capitalists, who make more money for paying employees less\n
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            Also who says half of them have to be fired? Can’t everyone just work less?
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            Your only question is “what am I missing” and the answer is an economics education.\n
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            But to address your “concerns” you’re operating on the mindset of maximizing profit to compete against other firms maximizing profit, which is only a problem under capitalism (until you reach the monopoly stage)
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            > Late Victorian Age\n
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            It is literally a book about western liberal democracies committing genocide, including through intentionally creating famines.\n
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            > Oh, and you claim the Holodomor didn’t happen? Well, let me guess, Stalin also didn’t got 30 million sowiet people killed?\n
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            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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          +body: "Read “riding the wave” fo learn about how Scandinavian countries are beneficiaries of the imperialist system"
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            I will repeat:\n
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            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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            > Maybe you’ll change your mind one day and understand why the world we live in is the way we live in.\n
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            This from the person who is spouting econ 101 nonsense.
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      > Because the fraction of the current world that reads every day and learns every day is extremely small.\n
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      Socialist countries are famous for literacy and education drives\n
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      > Again, like I said before, how many people around you come back from work and want to read technical books and watch courses instead of chilling, or hanging out with friends? I have two friends who are nut jobs like me and work all the time. EVERYONE else is lazy and just wants to have fun after work, and that’s in my circle. This spans over decades in the different jobs and sectors I worked at, in different countries. Do you have a different experience around you? I have trouble convincing people to read for 30 minutes every day.\n
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            > But to summarize. You basically want to wreck the current system on the basis that everyone will be diligent, reading all the time, just for the “greater good”, more so than their own profit.\n
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            No, that’s a strawman. People won’t all be diligent. But they will be more productive in general when they are not alienated from their labor. This has been proven with a bunch of economic data on socialist countries and data on cooperatives even within a capitalist environment.\n
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            > And btw, about the “bare minimum”. No one has a reason to not do the bare minimum as they don’t get fired (consequences). There will always be the lazy guy who does the bare minimum, and everyone will get lazier because they’ll get jealous with zero consequences.\n
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            You’re just literally describing capitalism and being like, what about this problem under socialism? The consequences are youre not contributing. Do you think everyone is suddenly going to be less motivated when they’re actually able to realize the product of their labor, instead of having a parasite on top taking it?
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            Thats it interesting scenario, but why are you assuming that there is a significant segment that won’t want to learn, especially when they’re no longer alienated from their labor? And why are you assuming that the total laborers will increase with new technology, when you can retrain existing workers?\n
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            I dont think your scenario is realistic, it kinda reads as really misanthropic
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            No, overthrowing capitalism and beginning a transition to a more rational economic system increases your life expectancy. You can literally look up graphs.\n
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            [statista.com/…/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041395/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/)
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            See you’re still trapped within the logic of capitalism which maximizes profits and expansion over other concerns.\n
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            > So, assuming we want to keep everyone (including useless people who’d rather have beer instead of reading a book to learn the new stuff), the income of everyone will just go down over time. Eventually, with no one getting fire there won’t be enough money to go around to feed them. What am I missing here?\n
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            These are all massive assumptions
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            Unfortunately in the case of econ 101, you are taught that 2+2=5 most modern econ is neoclassical, which means operating on pre-marx economics and just ignoring marxist critiques of the political economy.\n
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          +body: "THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves."
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            Literally sharing nazi propaganda from Hearst press lol\n
            \n
            Anyway, capitalism is known for never having famines or economic crises, especially not cyclical ones
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            You literally only have one question, the rest of it is opining.\n
            \n
            You’re assuming a wage labor model and that people working twice as efficiently and at half intensity would result in decreased production.\n
            \n
            1. wage labor models aren’t universal\n
            2. there is no reasoning stated for why production would go down\n
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            You’re assuming people would have to be fired to maintain competitive growth. This is based on the logic of firms competing to capture market share. There isn’t really a rational reason for this to need to happen under systems were the point is to accommodate human need, not to maximize profit.
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          +body: "Do you think the shareholders are active in problem solving? Workers include basically everyone but the shareholders. The tech guys, the executives, the managers."
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          +body: "Read the economy and class structure of german fascism if you want a detailed explanation for “scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds”"
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          +body: """
            > And yes, the only pro-Western nation ever falling into a serious Food-Crisis was… Haiti.\n
            \n
            Read Late Victorian Holocausts if you want to be less wrong.\n
            \n
            > Well, actually I am sharing “Wikipedia Propaganda” but if you want to call Wikipedia Nazi-Propaganda…\n
            \n
            The holodomor was originally fabricated by a hearst press associate at a time when Mr Hearst and the third Reich were openly collaborating on spreading nazi propaganda in the US. The famine was bad but the myth that it was a genocide needs to die as it is literally nazi propaganda and was used as a justification for collaborating with the holocaust in Eastern Europe\n
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            This is in fact the mainstream academic position. You may look to Conquest, Davies, and Wheatcroft, who are genuinely anticommunist historians, for their analysis (they all say it wasn’t a genocide)
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            Better to have them making the decision than capitalists, who make more money for paying employees less\n
            \n
            Also who says half of them have to be fired? Can’t everyone just work less?
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            Your only question is “what am I missing” and the answer is an economics education.\n
            \n
            But to address your “concerns” you’re operating on the mindset of maximizing profit to compete against other firms maximizing profit, which is only a problem under capitalism (until you reach the monopoly stage)
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            > Late Victorian Age\n
            \n
            It is literally a book about western liberal democracies committing genocide, including through intentionally creating famines.\n
            \n
            > Oh, and you claim the Holodomor didn’t happen? Well, let me guess, Stalin also didn’t got 30 million sowiet people killed?\n
            \n
            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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            I will repeat:\n
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            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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            > Maybe you’ll change your mind one day and understand why the world we live in is the way we live in.\n
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            This from the person who is spouting econ 101 nonsense.
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      > Because the fraction of the current world that reads every day and learns every day is extremely small.\n
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      Socialist countries are famous for literacy and education drives\n
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      > Again, like I said before, how many people around you come back from work and want to read technical books and watch courses instead of chilling, or hanging out with friends? I have two friends who are nut jobs like me and work all the time. EVERYONE else is lazy and just wants to have fun after work, and that’s in my circle. This spans over decades in the different jobs and sectors I worked at, in different countries. Do you have a different experience around you? I have trouble convincing people to read for 30 minutes every day.\n
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            > But to summarize. You basically want to wreck the current system on the basis that everyone will be diligent, reading all the time, just for the “greater good”, more so than their own profit.\n
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            Thats it interesting scenario, but why are you assuming that there is a significant segment that won’t want to learn, especially when they’re no longer alienated from their labor? And why are you assuming that the total laborers will increase with new technology, when you can retrain existing workers?\n
            \n
            I dont think your scenario is realistic, it kinda reads as really misanthropic
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            No, overthrowing capitalism and beginning a transition to a more rational economic system increases your life expectancy. You can literally look up graphs.\n
            \n
            [statista.com/…/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041395/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/)
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          +body: "Yes. All of those countries had more civil rights and longer life expectancy after the revolution"
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            See you’re still trapped within the logic of capitalism which maximizes profits and expansion over other concerns.\n
            \n
            > So, assuming we want to keep everyone (including useless people who’d rather have beer instead of reading a book to learn the new stuff), the income of everyone will just go down over time. Eventually, with no one getting fire there won’t be enough money to go around to feed them. What am I missing here?\n
            \n
            These are all massive assumptions
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            Unfortunately in the case of econ 101, you are taught that 2+2=5 most modern econ is neoclassical, which means operating on pre-marx economics and just ignoring marxist critiques of the political economy.\n
            \n
            > and money falls from the sky, and everyone being lazy leads to growth, I’ll ask them to justify.\n
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            Thats a mighty strawman you invented. Workers are going to do the bare minimum to not get fired when it literally doesn’t matter how much they work, their income will be the same. When workers are invested in an organization, they do more work.
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          +body: "THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves."
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            Literally sharing nazi propaganda from Hearst press lol\n
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            Anyway, capitalism is known for never having famines or economic crises, especially not cyclical ones
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            You literally only have one question, the rest of it is opining.\n
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            You’re assuming a wage labor model and that people working twice as efficiently and at half intensity would result in decreased production.\n
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            1. wage labor models aren’t universal\n
            2. there is no reasoning stated for why production would go down\n
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            You’re assuming people would have to be fired to maintain competitive growth. This is based on the logic of firms competing to capture market share. There isn’t really a rational reason for this to need to happen under systems were the point is to accommodate human need, not to maximize profit.
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          +body: "Do you think the shareholders are active in problem solving? Workers include basically everyone but the shareholders. The tech guys, the executives, the managers."
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          +body: "Read the economy and class structure of german fascism if you want a detailed explanation for “scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds”"
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            > And yes, the only pro-Western nation ever falling into a serious Food-Crisis was… Haiti.\n
            \n
            Read Late Victorian Holocausts if you want to be less wrong.\n
            \n
            > Well, actually I am sharing “Wikipedia Propaganda” but if you want to call Wikipedia Nazi-Propaganda…\n
            \n
            The holodomor was originally fabricated by a hearst press associate at a time when Mr Hearst and the third Reich were openly collaborating on spreading nazi propaganda in the US. The famine was bad but the myth that it was a genocide needs to die as it is literally nazi propaganda and was used as a justification for collaborating with the holocaust in Eastern Europe\n
            \n
            This is in fact the mainstream academic position. You may look to Conquest, Davies, and Wheatcroft, who are genuinely anticommunist historians, for their analysis (they all say it wasn’t a genocide)
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            > Because the fraction of the current world that reads every day and learns every day is extremely small.\n
            \n
            Socialist countries are famous for literacy and education drives\n
            \n
            > Again, like I said before, how many people around you come back from work and want to read technical books and watch courses instead of chilling, or hanging out with friends? I have two friends who are nut jobs like me and work all the time. EVERYONE else is lazy and just wants to have fun after work, and that’s in my circle. This spans over decades in the different jobs and sectors I worked at, in different countries. Do you have a different experience around you? I have trouble convincing people to read for 30 minutes every day.\n
            \n
            I dont think it is reasonable to assume humans will act the same way in all conditions. I know people who just slack off, and its generally because there is no incentive not to do the bare minimum when you are alienated from your labor
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            Your only question is “what am I missing” and the answer is an economics education.\n
            \n
            But to address your “concerns” you’re operating on the mindset of maximizing profit to compete against other firms maximizing profit, which is only a problem under capitalism (until you reach the monopoly stage)
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            > Late Victorian Age\n
            \n
            It is literally a book about western liberal democracies committing genocide, including through intentionally creating famines.\n
            \n
            > Oh, and you claim the Holodomor didn’t happen? Well, let me guess, Stalin also didn’t got 30 million sowiet people killed?\n
            \n
            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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          +body: "Read “riding the wave” fo learn about how Scandinavian countries are beneficiaries of the imperialist system"
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            I will repeat:\n
            \n
            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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            > Maybe you’ll change your mind one day and understand why the world we live in is the way we live in.\n
            \n
            This from the person who is spouting econ 101 nonsense.
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            > But to summarize. You basically want to wreck the current system on the basis that everyone will be diligent, reading all the time, just for the “greater good”, more so than their own profit.\n
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            You’re just literally describing capitalism and being like, what about this problem under socialism? The consequences are youre not contributing. Do you think everyone is suddenly going to be less motivated when they’re actually able to realize the product of their labor, instead of having a parasite on top taking it?
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            Thats it interesting scenario, but why are you assuming that there is a significant segment that won’t want to learn, especially when they’re no longer alienated from their labor? And why are you assuming that the total laborers will increase with new technology, when you can retrain existing workers?\n
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            No, overthrowing capitalism and beginning a transition to a more rational economic system increases your life expectancy. You can literally look up graphs.\n
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            [statista.com/…/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041395/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/)
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          +body: "Yes. All of those countries had more civil rights and longer life expectancy after the revolution"
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            See you’re still trapped within the logic of capitalism which maximizes profits and expansion over other concerns.\n
            \n
            > So, assuming we want to keep everyone (including useless people who’d rather have beer instead of reading a book to learn the new stuff), the income of everyone will just go down over time. Eventually, with no one getting fire there won’t be enough money to go around to feed them. What am I missing here?\n
            \n
            These are all massive assumptions
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            Unfortunately in the case of econ 101, you are taught that 2+2=5 most modern econ is neoclassical, which means operating on pre-marx economics and just ignoring marxist critiques of the political economy.\n
            \n
            > and money falls from the sky, and everyone being lazy leads to growth, I’ll ask them to justify.\n
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            Thats a mighty strawman you invented. Workers are going to do the bare minimum to not get fired when it literally doesn’t matter how much they work, their income will be the same. When workers are invested in an organization, they do more work.
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          +body: "THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves."
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            Literally sharing nazi propaganda from Hearst press lol\n
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            Anyway, capitalism is known for never having famines or economic crises, especially not cyclical ones
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            You literally only have one question, the rest of it is opining.\n
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            You’re assuming a wage labor model and that people working twice as efficiently and at half intensity would result in decreased production.\n
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            1. wage labor models aren’t universal\n
            2. there is no reasoning stated for why production would go down\n
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            You’re assuming people would have to be fired to maintain competitive growth. This is based on the logic of firms competing to capture market share. There isn’t really a rational reason for this to need to happen under systems were the point is to accommodate human need, not to maximize profit.
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          +body: "Do you think the shareholders are active in problem solving? Workers include basically everyone but the shareholders. The tech guys, the executives, the managers."
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          +body: "Read the economy and class structure of german fascism if you want a detailed explanation for “scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds”"
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            > And yes, the only pro-Western nation ever falling into a serious Food-Crisis was… Haiti.\n
            \n
            Read Late Victorian Holocausts if you want to be less wrong.\n
            \n
            > Well, actually I am sharing “Wikipedia Propaganda” but if you want to call Wikipedia Nazi-Propaganda…\n
            \n
            The holodomor was originally fabricated by a hearst press associate at a time when Mr Hearst and the third Reich were openly collaborating on spreading nazi propaganda in the US. The famine was bad but the myth that it was a genocide needs to die as it is literally nazi propaganda and was used as a justification for collaborating with the holocaust in Eastern Europe\n
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            This is in fact the mainstream academic position. You may look to Conquest, Davies, and Wheatcroft, who are genuinely anticommunist historians, for their analysis (they all say it wasn’t a genocide)
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            > Because the fraction of the current world that reads every day and learns every day is extremely small.\n
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            Socialist countries are famous for literacy and education drives\n
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            > Again, like I said before, how many people around you come back from work and want to read technical books and watch courses instead of chilling, or hanging out with friends? I have two friends who are nut jobs like me and work all the time. EVERYONE else is lazy and just wants to have fun after work, and that’s in my circle. This spans over decades in the different jobs and sectors I worked at, in different countries. Do you have a different experience around you? I have trouble convincing people to read for 30 minutes every day.\n
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            I dont think it is reasonable to assume humans will act the same way in all conditions. I know people who just slack off, and its generally because there is no incentive not to do the bare minimum when you are alienated from your labor
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            Your only question is “what am I missing” and the answer is an economics education.\n
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            But to address your “concerns” you’re operating on the mindset of maximizing profit to compete against other firms maximizing profit, which is only a problem under capitalism (until you reach the monopoly stage)
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            > Late Victorian Age\n
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            It is literally a book about western liberal democracies committing genocide, including through intentionally creating famines.\n
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            > Oh, and you claim the Holodomor didn’t happen? Well, let me guess, Stalin also didn’t got 30 million sowiet people killed?\n
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            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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          +body: "Read “riding the wave” fo learn about how Scandinavian countries are beneficiaries of the imperialist system"
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            I will repeat:\n
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            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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            > Maybe you’ll change your mind one day and understand why the world we live in is the way we live in.\n
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            This from the person who is spouting econ 101 nonsense.
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      Better to have them making the decision than capitalists, who make more money for paying employees less\n
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      Also who says half of them have to be fired? Can’t everyone just work less?
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            > But to summarize. You basically want to wreck the current system on the basis that everyone will be diligent, reading all the time, just for the “greater good”, more so than their own profit.\n
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            > And btw, about the “bare minimum”. No one has a reason to not do the bare minimum as they don’t get fired (consequences). There will always be the lazy guy who does the bare minimum, and everyone will get lazier because they’ll get jealous with zero consequences.\n
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            You’re just literally describing capitalism and being like, what about this problem under socialism? The consequences are youre not contributing. Do you think everyone is suddenly going to be less motivated when they’re actually able to realize the product of their labor, instead of having a parasite on top taking it?
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            Thats it interesting scenario, but why are you assuming that there is a significant segment that won’t want to learn, especially when they’re no longer alienated from their labor? And why are you assuming that the total laborers will increase with new technology, when you can retrain existing workers?\n
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            I dont think your scenario is realistic, it kinda reads as really misanthropic
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            No, overthrowing capitalism and beginning a transition to a more rational economic system increases your life expectancy. You can literally look up graphs.\n
            \n
            [statista.com/…/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041395/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/)
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          +body: "Yes. All of those countries had more civil rights and longer life expectancy after the revolution"
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            See you’re still trapped within the logic of capitalism which maximizes profits and expansion over other concerns.\n
            \n
            > So, assuming we want to keep everyone (including useless people who’d rather have beer instead of reading a book to learn the new stuff), the income of everyone will just go down over time. Eventually, with no one getting fire there won’t be enough money to go around to feed them. What am I missing here?\n
            \n
            These are all massive assumptions
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            Unfortunately in the case of econ 101, you are taught that 2+2=5 most modern econ is neoclassical, which means operating on pre-marx economics and just ignoring marxist critiques of the political economy.\n
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            > and money falls from the sky, and everyone being lazy leads to growth, I’ll ask them to justify.\n
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            Thats a mighty strawman you invented. Workers are going to do the bare minimum to not get fired when it literally doesn’t matter how much they work, their income will be the same. When workers are invested in an organization, they do more work.
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          +body: "THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves."
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            Literally sharing nazi propaganda from Hearst press lol\n
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            Anyway, capitalism is known for never having famines or economic crises, especially not cyclical ones
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            You literally only have one question, the rest of it is opining.\n
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            You’re assuming a wage labor model and that people working twice as efficiently and at half intensity would result in decreased production.\n
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            1. wage labor models aren’t universal\n
            2. there is no reasoning stated for why production would go down\n
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            You’re assuming people would have to be fired to maintain competitive growth. This is based on the logic of firms competing to capture market share. There isn’t really a rational reason for this to need to happen under systems were the point is to accommodate human need, not to maximize profit.
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          +body: "Do you think the shareholders are active in problem solving? Workers include basically everyone but the shareholders. The tech guys, the executives, the managers."
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          +body: "Read the economy and class structure of german fascism if you want a detailed explanation for “scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds”"
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            > And yes, the only pro-Western nation ever falling into a serious Food-Crisis was… Haiti.\n
            \n
            Read Late Victorian Holocausts if you want to be less wrong.\n
            \n
            > Well, actually I am sharing “Wikipedia Propaganda” but if you want to call Wikipedia Nazi-Propaganda…\n
            \n
            The holodomor was originally fabricated by a hearst press associate at a time when Mr Hearst and the third Reich were openly collaborating on spreading nazi propaganda in the US. The famine was bad but the myth that it was a genocide needs to die as it is literally nazi propaganda and was used as a justification for collaborating with the holocaust in Eastern Europe\n
            \n
            This is in fact the mainstream academic position. You may look to Conquest, Davies, and Wheatcroft, who are genuinely anticommunist historians, for their analysis (they all say it wasn’t a genocide)
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            > Because the fraction of the current world that reads every day and learns every day is extremely small.\n
            \n
            Socialist countries are famous for literacy and education drives\n
            \n
            > Again, like I said before, how many people around you come back from work and want to read technical books and watch courses instead of chilling, or hanging out with friends? I have two friends who are nut jobs like me and work all the time. EVERYONE else is lazy and just wants to have fun after work, and that’s in my circle. This spans over decades in the different jobs and sectors I worked at, in different countries. Do you have a different experience around you? I have trouble convincing people to read for 30 minutes every day.\n
            \n
            I dont think it is reasonable to assume humans will act the same way in all conditions. I know people who just slack off, and its generally because there is no incentive not to do the bare minimum when you are alienated from your labor
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            Your only question is “what am I missing” and the answer is an economics education.\n
            \n
            But to address your “concerns” you’re operating on the mindset of maximizing profit to compete against other firms maximizing profit, which is only a problem under capitalism (until you reach the monopoly stage)
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            > Late Victorian Age\n
            \n
            It is literally a book about western liberal democracies committing genocide, including through intentionally creating famines.\n
            \n
            > Oh, and you claim the Holodomor didn’t happen? Well, let me guess, Stalin also didn’t got 30 million sowiet people killed?\n
            \n
            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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          +body: "Read “riding the wave” fo learn about how Scandinavian countries are beneficiaries of the imperialist system"
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            I will repeat:\n
            \n
            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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            > Maybe you’ll change your mind one day and understand why the world we live in is the way we live in.\n
            \n
            This from the person who is spouting econ 101 nonsense.
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            > But to summarize. You basically want to wreck the current system on the basis that everyone will be diligent, reading all the time, just for the “greater good”, more so than their own profit.\n
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            You’re just literally describing capitalism and being like, what about this problem under socialism? The consequences are youre not contributing. Do you think everyone is suddenly going to be less motivated when they’re actually able to realize the product of their labor, instead of having a parasite on top taking it?
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            Thats it interesting scenario, but why are you assuming that there is a significant segment that won’t want to learn, especially when they’re no longer alienated from their labor? And why are you assuming that the total laborers will increase with new technology, when you can retrain existing workers?\n
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            No, overthrowing capitalism and beginning a transition to a more rational economic system increases your life expectancy. You can literally look up graphs.\n
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            [statista.com/…/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041395/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/)
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          +body: "Yes. All of those countries had more civil rights and longer life expectancy after the revolution"
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            See you’re still trapped within the logic of capitalism which maximizes profits and expansion over other concerns.\n
            \n
            > So, assuming we want to keep everyone (including useless people who’d rather have beer instead of reading a book to learn the new stuff), the income of everyone will just go down over time. Eventually, with no one getting fire there won’t be enough money to go around to feed them. What am I missing here?\n
            \n
            These are all massive assumptions
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            Unfortunately in the case of econ 101, you are taught that 2+2=5 most modern econ is neoclassical, which means operating on pre-marx economics and just ignoring marxist critiques of the political economy.\n
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            > and money falls from the sky, and everyone being lazy leads to growth, I’ll ask them to justify.\n
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            Thats a mighty strawman you invented. Workers are going to do the bare minimum to not get fired when it literally doesn’t matter how much they work, their income will be the same. When workers are invested in an organization, they do more work.
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          +body: "THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves."
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            Literally sharing nazi propaganda from Hearst press lol\n
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            Anyway, capitalism is known for never having famines or economic crises, especially not cyclical ones
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            You literally only have one question, the rest of it is opining.\n
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            You’re assuming a wage labor model and that people working twice as efficiently and at half intensity would result in decreased production.\n
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            1. wage labor models aren’t universal\n
            2. there is no reasoning stated for why production would go down\n
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            You’re assuming people would have to be fired to maintain competitive growth. This is based on the logic of firms competing to capture market share. There isn’t really a rational reason for this to need to happen under systems were the point is to accommodate human need, not to maximize profit.
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          +body: "Do you think the shareholders are active in problem solving? Workers include basically everyone but the shareholders. The tech guys, the executives, the managers."
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          +body: "Read the economy and class structure of german fascism if you want a detailed explanation for “scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds”"
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          +body: """
            > And yes, the only pro-Western nation ever falling into a serious Food-Crisis was… Haiti.\n
            \n
            Read Late Victorian Holocausts if you want to be less wrong.\n
            \n
            > Well, actually I am sharing “Wikipedia Propaganda” but if you want to call Wikipedia Nazi-Propaganda…\n
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            The holodomor was originally fabricated by a hearst press associate at a time when Mr Hearst and the third Reich were openly collaborating on spreading nazi propaganda in the US. The famine was bad but the myth that it was a genocide needs to die as it is literally nazi propaganda and was used as a justification for collaborating with the holocaust in Eastern Europe\n
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            This is in fact the mainstream academic position. You may look to Conquest, Davies, and Wheatcroft, who are genuinely anticommunist historians, for their analysis (they all say it wasn’t a genocide)
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            > Because the fraction of the current world that reads every day and learns every day is extremely small.\n
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            Socialist countries are famous for literacy and education drives\n
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            > Again, like I said before, how many people around you come back from work and want to read technical books and watch courses instead of chilling, or hanging out with friends? I have two friends who are nut jobs like me and work all the time. EVERYONE else is lazy and just wants to have fun after work, and that’s in my circle. This spans over decades in the different jobs and sectors I worked at, in different countries. Do you have a different experience around you? I have trouble convincing people to read for 30 minutes every day.\n
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            Your only question is “what am I missing” and the answer is an economics education.\n
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            But to address your “concerns” you’re operating on the mindset of maximizing profit to compete against other firms maximizing profit, which is only a problem under capitalism (until you reach the monopoly stage)
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            > Late Victorian Age\n
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            It is literally a book about western liberal democracies committing genocide, including through intentionally creating famines.\n
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            > Oh, and you claim the Holodomor didn’t happen? Well, let me guess, Stalin also didn’t got 30 million sowiet people killed?\n
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            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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            I will repeat:\n
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            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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            > Maybe you’ll change your mind one day and understand why the world we live in is the way we live in.\n
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            This from the person who is spouting econ 101 nonsense.
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      Better to have them making the decision than capitalists, who make more money for paying employees less\n
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            > But to summarize. You basically want to wreck the current system on the basis that everyone will be diligent, reading all the time, just for the “greater good”, more so than their own profit.\n
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            No, that’s a strawman. People won’t all be diligent. But they will be more productive in general when they are not alienated from their labor. This has been proven with a bunch of economic data on socialist countries and data on cooperatives even within a capitalist environment.\n
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            You’re just literally describing capitalism and being like, what about this problem under socialism? The consequences are youre not contributing. Do you think everyone is suddenly going to be less motivated when they’re actually able to realize the product of their labor, instead of having a parasite on top taking it?
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            Thats it interesting scenario, but why are you assuming that there is a significant segment that won’t want to learn, especially when they’re no longer alienated from their labor? And why are you assuming that the total laborers will increase with new technology, when you can retrain existing workers?\n
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            I dont think your scenario is realistic, it kinda reads as really misanthropic
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            No, overthrowing capitalism and beginning a transition to a more rational economic system increases your life expectancy. You can literally look up graphs.\n
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            [statista.com/…/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041395/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/)
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          +body: "Yes. All of those countries had more civil rights and longer life expectancy after the revolution"
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            See you’re still trapped within the logic of capitalism which maximizes profits and expansion over other concerns.\n
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            > So, assuming we want to keep everyone (including useless people who’d rather have beer instead of reading a book to learn the new stuff), the income of everyone will just go down over time. Eventually, with no one getting fire there won’t be enough money to go around to feed them. What am I missing here?\n
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            These are all massive assumptions
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            Unfortunately in the case of econ 101, you are taught that 2+2=5 most modern econ is neoclassical, which means operating on pre-marx economics and just ignoring marxist critiques of the political economy.\n
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            > and money falls from the sky, and everyone being lazy leads to growth, I’ll ask them to justify.\n
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            Thats a mighty strawman you invented. Workers are going to do the bare minimum to not get fired when it literally doesn’t matter how much they work, their income will be the same. When workers are invested in an organization, they do more work.
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          +body: "THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves."
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            Literally sharing nazi propaganda from Hearst press lol\n
            \n
            Anyway, capitalism is known for never having famines or economic crises, especially not cyclical ones
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            You literally only have one question, the rest of it is opining.\n
            \n
            You’re assuming a wage labor model and that people working twice as efficiently and at half intensity would result in decreased production.\n
            \n
            1. wage labor models aren’t universal\n
            2. there is no reasoning stated for why production would go down\n
            \n
            You’re assuming people would have to be fired to maintain competitive growth. This is based on the logic of firms competing to capture market share. There isn’t really a rational reason for this to need to happen under systems were the point is to accommodate human need, not to maximize profit.
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          +body: "Do you think the shareholders are active in problem solving? Workers include basically everyone but the shareholders. The tech guys, the executives, the managers."
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          +body: "Read the economy and class structure of german fascism if you want a detailed explanation for “scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds”"
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          +body: """
            > And yes, the only pro-Western nation ever falling into a serious Food-Crisis was… Haiti.\n
            \n
            Read Late Victorian Holocausts if you want to be less wrong.\n
            \n
            > Well, actually I am sharing “Wikipedia Propaganda” but if you want to call Wikipedia Nazi-Propaganda…\n
            \n
            The holodomor was originally fabricated by a hearst press associate at a time when Mr Hearst and the third Reich were openly collaborating on spreading nazi propaganda in the US. The famine was bad but the myth that it was a genocide needs to die as it is literally nazi propaganda and was used as a justification for collaborating with the holocaust in Eastern Europe\n
            \n
            This is in fact the mainstream academic position. You may look to Conquest, Davies, and Wheatcroft, who are genuinely anticommunist historians, for their analysis (they all say it wasn’t a genocide)
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            > Because the fraction of the current world that reads every day and learns every day is extremely small.\n
            \n
            Socialist countries are famous for literacy and education drives\n
            \n
            > Again, like I said before, how many people around you come back from work and want to read technical books and watch courses instead of chilling, or hanging out with friends? I have two friends who are nut jobs like me and work all the time. EVERYONE else is lazy and just wants to have fun after work, and that’s in my circle. This spans over decades in the different jobs and sectors I worked at, in different countries. Do you have a different experience around you? I have trouble convincing people to read for 30 minutes every day.\n
            \n
            I dont think it is reasonable to assume humans will act the same way in all conditions. I know people who just slack off, and its generally because there is no incentive not to do the bare minimum when you are alienated from your labor
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            Your only question is “what am I missing” and the answer is an economics education.\n
            \n
            But to address your “concerns” you’re operating on the mindset of maximizing profit to compete against other firms maximizing profit, which is only a problem under capitalism (until you reach the monopoly stage)
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            > Late Victorian Age\n
            \n
            It is literally a book about western liberal democracies committing genocide, including through intentionally creating famines.\n
            \n
            > Oh, and you claim the Holodomor didn’t happen? Well, let me guess, Stalin also didn’t got 30 million sowiet people killed?\n
            \n
            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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            > Maybe you’ll change your mind one day and understand why the world we live in is the way we live in.\n
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      Better to have them making the decision than capitalists, who make more money for paying employees less\n
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            > But to summarize. You basically want to wreck the current system on the basis that everyone will be diligent, reading all the time, just for the “greater good”, more so than their own profit.\n
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            Thats it interesting scenario, but why are you assuming that there is a significant segment that won’t want to learn, especially when they’re no longer alienated from their labor? And why are you assuming that the total laborers will increase with new technology, when you can retrain existing workers?\n
            \n
            I dont think your scenario is realistic, it kinda reads as really misanthropic
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            No, overthrowing capitalism and beginning a transition to a more rational economic system increases your life expectancy. You can literally look up graphs.\n
            \n
            [statista.com/…/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041395/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/)
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          +body: "Yes. All of those countries had more civil rights and longer life expectancy after the revolution"
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            See you’re still trapped within the logic of capitalism which maximizes profits and expansion over other concerns.\n
            \n
            > So, assuming we want to keep everyone (including useless people who’d rather have beer instead of reading a book to learn the new stuff), the income of everyone will just go down over time. Eventually, with no one getting fire there won’t be enough money to go around to feed them. What am I missing here?\n
            \n
            These are all massive assumptions
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            Unfortunately in the case of econ 101, you are taught that 2+2=5 most modern econ is neoclassical, which means operating on pre-marx economics and just ignoring marxist critiques of the political economy.\n
            \n
            > and money falls from the sky, and everyone being lazy leads to growth, I’ll ask them to justify.\n
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            Thats a mighty strawman you invented. Workers are going to do the bare minimum to not get fired when it literally doesn’t matter how much they work, their income will be the same. When workers are invested in an organization, they do more work.
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          +body: "THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves."
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            Literally sharing nazi propaganda from Hearst press lol\n
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            Anyway, capitalism is known for never having famines or economic crises, especially not cyclical ones
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            You literally only have one question, the rest of it is opining.\n
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            You’re assuming a wage labor model and that people working twice as efficiently and at half intensity would result in decreased production.\n
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            1. wage labor models aren’t universal\n
            2. there is no reasoning stated for why production would go down\n
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            You’re assuming people would have to be fired to maintain competitive growth. This is based on the logic of firms competing to capture market share. There isn’t really a rational reason for this to need to happen under systems were the point is to accommodate human need, not to maximize profit.
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          +body: "Do you think the shareholders are active in problem solving? Workers include basically everyone but the shareholders. The tech guys, the executives, the managers."
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          +body: "Read the economy and class structure of german fascism if you want a detailed explanation for “scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds”"
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            > And yes, the only pro-Western nation ever falling into a serious Food-Crisis was… Haiti.\n
            \n
            Read Late Victorian Holocausts if you want to be less wrong.\n
            \n
            > Well, actually I am sharing “Wikipedia Propaganda” but if you want to call Wikipedia Nazi-Propaganda…\n
            \n
            The holodomor was originally fabricated by a hearst press associate at a time when Mr Hearst and the third Reich were openly collaborating on spreading nazi propaganda in the US. The famine was bad but the myth that it was a genocide needs to die as it is literally nazi propaganda and was used as a justification for collaborating with the holocaust in Eastern Europe\n
            \n
            This is in fact the mainstream academic position. You may look to Conquest, Davies, and Wheatcroft, who are genuinely anticommunist historians, for their analysis (they all say it wasn’t a genocide)
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            > Because the fraction of the current world that reads every day and learns every day is extremely small.\n
            \n
            Socialist countries are famous for literacy and education drives\n
            \n
            > Again, like I said before, how many people around you come back from work and want to read technical books and watch courses instead of chilling, or hanging out with friends? I have two friends who are nut jobs like me and work all the time. EVERYONE else is lazy and just wants to have fun after work, and that’s in my circle. This spans over decades in the different jobs and sectors I worked at, in different countries. Do you have a different experience around you? I have trouble convincing people to read for 30 minutes every day.\n
            \n
            I dont think it is reasonable to assume humans will act the same way in all conditions. I know people who just slack off, and its generally because there is no incentive not to do the bare minimum when you are alienated from your labor
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            Your only question is “what am I missing” and the answer is an economics education.\n
            \n
            But to address your “concerns” you’re operating on the mindset of maximizing profit to compete against other firms maximizing profit, which is only a problem under capitalism (until you reach the monopoly stage)
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            > Late Victorian Age\n
            \n
            It is literally a book about western liberal democracies committing genocide, including through intentionally creating famines.\n
            \n
            > Oh, and you claim the Holodomor didn’t happen? Well, let me guess, Stalin also didn’t got 30 million sowiet people killed?\n
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            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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          +body: "Read “riding the wave” fo learn about how Scandinavian countries are beneficiaries of the imperialist system"
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            I will repeat:\n
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            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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            > Maybe you’ll change your mind one day and understand why the world we live in is the way we live in.\n
            \n
            This from the person who is spouting econ 101 nonsense.
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      Better to have them making the decision than capitalists, who make more money for paying employees less\n
      \n
      Also who says half of them have to be fired? Can’t everyone just work less?
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            > But to summarize. You basically want to wreck the current system on the basis that everyone will be diligent, reading all the time, just for the “greater good”, more so than their own profit.\n
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            No, that’s a strawman. People won’t all be diligent. But they will be more productive in general when they are not alienated from their labor. This has been proven with a bunch of economic data on socialist countries and data on cooperatives even within a capitalist environment.\n
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            > And btw, about the “bare minimum”. No one has a reason to not do the bare minimum as they don’t get fired (consequences). There will always be the lazy guy who does the bare minimum, and everyone will get lazier because they’ll get jealous with zero consequences.\n
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            You’re just literally describing capitalism and being like, what about this problem under socialism? The consequences are youre not contributing. Do you think everyone is suddenly going to be less motivated when they’re actually able to realize the product of their labor, instead of having a parasite on top taking it?
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            Thats it interesting scenario, but why are you assuming that there is a significant segment that won’t want to learn, especially when they’re no longer alienated from their labor? And why are you assuming that the total laborers will increase with new technology, when you can retrain existing workers?\n
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            I dont think your scenario is realistic, it kinda reads as really misanthropic
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            No, overthrowing capitalism and beginning a transition to a more rational economic system increases your life expectancy. You can literally look up graphs.\n
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            [statista.com/…/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041395/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/)
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            See you’re still trapped within the logic of capitalism which maximizes profits and expansion over other concerns.\n
            \n
            > So, assuming we want to keep everyone (including useless people who’d rather have beer instead of reading a book to learn the new stuff), the income of everyone will just go down over time. Eventually, with no one getting fire there won’t be enough money to go around to feed them. What am I missing here?\n
            \n
            These are all massive assumptions
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            Unfortunately in the case of econ 101, you are taught that 2+2=5 most modern econ is neoclassical, which means operating on pre-marx economics and just ignoring marxist critiques of the political economy.\n
            \n
            > and money falls from the sky, and everyone being lazy leads to growth, I’ll ask them to justify.\n
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            Thats a mighty strawman you invented. Workers are going to do the bare minimum to not get fired when it literally doesn’t matter how much they work, their income will be the same. When workers are invested in an organization, they do more work.
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          +body: "THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves."
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            Literally sharing nazi propaganda from Hearst press lol\n
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            Anyway, capitalism is known for never having famines or economic crises, especially not cyclical ones
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            You literally only have one question, the rest of it is opining.\n
            \n
            You’re assuming a wage labor model and that people working twice as efficiently and at half intensity would result in decreased production.\n
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            1. wage labor models aren’t universal\n
            2. there is no reasoning stated for why production would go down\n
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            You’re assuming people would have to be fired to maintain competitive growth. This is based on the logic of firms competing to capture market share. There isn’t really a rational reason for this to need to happen under systems were the point is to accommodate human need, not to maximize profit.
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          +body: "Do you think the shareholders are active in problem solving? Workers include basically everyone but the shareholders. The tech guys, the executives, the managers."
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          +body: "Read the economy and class structure of german fascism if you want a detailed explanation for “scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds”"
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          +body: """
            > And yes, the only pro-Western nation ever falling into a serious Food-Crisis was… Haiti.\n
            \n
            Read Late Victorian Holocausts if you want to be less wrong.\n
            \n
            > Well, actually I am sharing “Wikipedia Propaganda” but if you want to call Wikipedia Nazi-Propaganda…\n
            \n
            The holodomor was originally fabricated by a hearst press associate at a time when Mr Hearst and the third Reich were openly collaborating on spreading nazi propaganda in the US. The famine was bad but the myth that it was a genocide needs to die as it is literally nazi propaganda and was used as a justification for collaborating with the holocaust in Eastern Europe\n
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            This is in fact the mainstream academic position. You may look to Conquest, Davies, and Wheatcroft, who are genuinely anticommunist historians, for their analysis (they all say it wasn’t a genocide)
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            > Because the fraction of the current world that reads every day and learns every day is extremely small.\n
            \n
            Socialist countries are famous for literacy and education drives\n
            \n
            > Again, like I said before, how many people around you come back from work and want to read technical books and watch courses instead of chilling, or hanging out with friends? I have two friends who are nut jobs like me and work all the time. EVERYONE else is lazy and just wants to have fun after work, and that’s in my circle. This spans over decades in the different jobs and sectors I worked at, in different countries. Do you have a different experience around you? I have trouble convincing people to read for 30 minutes every day.\n
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            I dont think it is reasonable to assume humans will act the same way in all conditions. I know people who just slack off, and its generally because there is no incentive not to do the bare minimum when you are alienated from your labor
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            Better to have them making the decision than capitalists, who make more money for paying employees less\n
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            Also who says half of them have to be fired? Can’t everyone just work less?
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            > Late Victorian Age\n
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            It is literally a book about western liberal democracies committing genocide, including through intentionally creating famines.\n
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            > Oh, and you claim the Holodomor didn’t happen? Well, let me guess, Stalin also didn’t got 30 million sowiet people killed?\n
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            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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          +body: "Read “riding the wave” fo learn about how Scandinavian countries are beneficiaries of the imperialist system"
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            I will repeat:\n
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            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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            > Maybe you’ll change your mind one day and understand why the world we live in is the way we live in.\n
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            This from the person who is spouting econ 101 nonsense.
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      Your only question is “what am I missing” and the answer is an economics education.\n
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            > But to summarize. You basically want to wreck the current system on the basis that everyone will be diligent, reading all the time, just for the “greater good”, more so than their own profit.\n
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            No, that’s a strawman. People won’t all be diligent. But they will be more productive in general when they are not alienated from their labor. This has been proven with a bunch of economic data on socialist countries and data on cooperatives even within a capitalist environment.\n
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            You’re just literally describing capitalism and being like, what about this problem under socialism? The consequences are youre not contributing. Do you think everyone is suddenly going to be less motivated when they’re actually able to realize the product of their labor, instead of having a parasite on top taking it?
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            Thats it interesting scenario, but why are you assuming that there is a significant segment that won’t want to learn, especially when they’re no longer alienated from their labor? And why are you assuming that the total laborers will increase with new technology, when you can retrain existing workers?\n
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            I dont think your scenario is realistic, it kinda reads as really misanthropic
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            No, overthrowing capitalism and beginning a transition to a more rational economic system increases your life expectancy. You can literally look up graphs.\n
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            [statista.com/…/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041395/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/)
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          +body: "Yes. All of those countries had more civil rights and longer life expectancy after the revolution"
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            See you’re still trapped within the logic of capitalism which maximizes profits and expansion over other concerns.\n
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            > So, assuming we want to keep everyone (including useless people who’d rather have beer instead of reading a book to learn the new stuff), the income of everyone will just go down over time. Eventually, with no one getting fire there won’t be enough money to go around to feed them. What am I missing here?\n
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            These are all massive assumptions
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            Unfortunately in the case of econ 101, you are taught that 2+2=5 most modern econ is neoclassical, which means operating on pre-marx economics and just ignoring marxist critiques of the political economy.\n
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            > and money falls from the sky, and everyone being lazy leads to growth, I’ll ask them to justify.\n
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            Thats a mighty strawman you invented. Workers are going to do the bare minimum to not get fired when it literally doesn’t matter how much they work, their income will be the same. When workers are invested in an organization, they do more work.
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          +body: "THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves."
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            Literally sharing nazi propaganda from Hearst press lol\n
            \n
            Anyway, capitalism is known for never having famines or economic crises, especially not cyclical ones
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            You literally only have one question, the rest of it is opining.\n
            \n
            You’re assuming a wage labor model and that people working twice as efficiently and at half intensity would result in decreased production.\n
            \n
            1. wage labor models aren’t universal\n
            2. there is no reasoning stated for why production would go down\n
            \n
            You’re assuming people would have to be fired to maintain competitive growth. This is based on the logic of firms competing to capture market share. There isn’t really a rational reason for this to need to happen under systems were the point is to accommodate human need, not to maximize profit.
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          +body: "Do you think the shareholders are active in problem solving? Workers include basically everyone but the shareholders. The tech guys, the executives, the managers."
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          +body: "Read the economy and class structure of german fascism if you want a detailed explanation for “scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds”"
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            > And yes, the only pro-Western nation ever falling into a serious Food-Crisis was… Haiti.\n
            \n
            Read Late Victorian Holocausts if you want to be less wrong.\n
            \n
            > Well, actually I am sharing “Wikipedia Propaganda” but if you want to call Wikipedia Nazi-Propaganda…\n
            \n
            The holodomor was originally fabricated by a hearst press associate at a time when Mr Hearst and the third Reich were openly collaborating on spreading nazi propaganda in the US. The famine was bad but the myth that it was a genocide needs to die as it is literally nazi propaganda and was used as a justification for collaborating with the holocaust in Eastern Europe\n
            \n
            This is in fact the mainstream academic position. You may look to Conquest, Davies, and Wheatcroft, who are genuinely anticommunist historians, for their analysis (they all say it wasn’t a genocide)
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            > Because the fraction of the current world that reads every day and learns every day is extremely small.\n
            \n
            Socialist countries are famous for literacy and education drives\n
            \n
            > Again, like I said before, how many people around you come back from work and want to read technical books and watch courses instead of chilling, or hanging out with friends? I have two friends who are nut jobs like me and work all the time. EVERYONE else is lazy and just wants to have fun after work, and that’s in my circle. This spans over decades in the different jobs and sectors I worked at, in different countries. Do you have a different experience around you? I have trouble convincing people to read for 30 minutes every day.\n
            \n
            I dont think it is reasonable to assume humans will act the same way in all conditions. I know people who just slack off, and its generally because there is no incentive not to do the bare minimum when you are alienated from your labor
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            Better to have them making the decision than capitalists, who make more money for paying employees less\n
            \n
            Also who says half of them have to be fired? Can’t everyone just work less?
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            > Late Victorian Age\n
            \n
            It is literally a book about western liberal democracies committing genocide, including through intentionally creating famines.\n
            \n
            > Oh, and you claim the Holodomor didn’t happen? Well, let me guess, Stalin also didn’t got 30 million sowiet people killed?\n
            \n
            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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          +body: "Read “riding the wave” fo learn about how Scandinavian countries are beneficiaries of the imperialist system"
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            > But to summarize. You basically want to wreck the current system on the basis that everyone will be diligent, reading all the time, just for the “greater good”, more so than their own profit.\n
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            No, that’s a strawman. People won’t all be diligent. But they will be more productive in general when they are not alienated from their labor. This has been proven with a bunch of economic data on socialist countries and data on cooperatives even within a capitalist environment.\n
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            > And btw, about the “bare minimum”. No one has a reason to not do the bare minimum as they don’t get fired (consequences). There will always be the lazy guy who does the bare minimum, and everyone will get lazier because they’ll get jealous with zero consequences.\n
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            You’re just literally describing capitalism and being like, what about this problem under socialism? The consequences are youre not contributing. Do you think everyone is suddenly going to be less motivated when they’re actually able to realize the product of their labor, instead of having a parasite on top taking it?
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            Thats it interesting scenario, but why are you assuming that there is a significant segment that won’t want to learn, especially when they’re no longer alienated from their labor? And why are you assuming that the total laborers will increase with new technology, when you can retrain existing workers?\n
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            I dont think your scenario is realistic, it kinda reads as really misanthropic
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            No, overthrowing capitalism and beginning a transition to a more rational economic system increases your life expectancy. You can literally look up graphs.\n
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            [statista.com/…/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041395/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/)
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          +body: "Yes. All of those countries had more civil rights and longer life expectancy after the revolution"
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            See you’re still trapped within the logic of capitalism which maximizes profits and expansion over other concerns.\n
            \n
            > So, assuming we want to keep everyone (including useless people who’d rather have beer instead of reading a book to learn the new stuff), the income of everyone will just go down over time. Eventually, with no one getting fire there won’t be enough money to go around to feed them. What am I missing here?\n
            \n
            These are all massive assumptions
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            Unfortunately in the case of econ 101, you are taught that 2+2=5 most modern econ is neoclassical, which means operating on pre-marx economics and just ignoring marxist critiques of the political economy.\n
            \n
            > and money falls from the sky, and everyone being lazy leads to growth, I’ll ask them to justify.\n
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            Thats a mighty strawman you invented. Workers are going to do the bare minimum to not get fired when it literally doesn’t matter how much they work, their income will be the same. When workers are invested in an organization, they do more work.
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          +body: "THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves."
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            Literally sharing nazi propaganda from Hearst press lol\n
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            Anyway, capitalism is known for never having famines or economic crises, especially not cyclical ones
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            You literally only have one question, the rest of it is opining.\n
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            You’re assuming a wage labor model and that people working twice as efficiently and at half intensity would result in decreased production.\n
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            1. wage labor models aren’t universal\n
            2. there is no reasoning stated for why production would go down\n
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            You’re assuming people would have to be fired to maintain competitive growth. This is based on the logic of firms competing to capture market share. There isn’t really a rational reason for this to need to happen under systems were the point is to accommodate human need, not to maximize profit.
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          +body: "Do you think the shareholders are active in problem solving? Workers include basically everyone but the shareholders. The tech guys, the executives, the managers."
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          +body: "Read the economy and class structure of german fascism if you want a detailed explanation for “scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds”"
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            > And yes, the only pro-Western nation ever falling into a serious Food-Crisis was… Haiti.\n
            \n
            Read Late Victorian Holocausts if you want to be less wrong.\n
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            > Well, actually I am sharing “Wikipedia Propaganda” but if you want to call Wikipedia Nazi-Propaganda…\n
            \n
            The holodomor was originally fabricated by a hearst press associate at a time when Mr Hearst and the third Reich were openly collaborating on spreading nazi propaganda in the US. The famine was bad but the myth that it was a genocide needs to die as it is literally nazi propaganda and was used as a justification for collaborating with the holocaust in Eastern Europe\n
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            This is in fact the mainstream academic position. You may look to Conquest, Davies, and Wheatcroft, who are genuinely anticommunist historians, for their analysis (they all say it wasn’t a genocide)
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            > Because the fraction of the current world that reads every day and learns every day is extremely small.\n
            \n
            Socialist countries are famous for literacy and education drives\n
            \n
            > Again, like I said before, how many people around you come back from work and want to read technical books and watch courses instead of chilling, or hanging out with friends? I have two friends who are nut jobs like me and work all the time. EVERYONE else is lazy and just wants to have fun after work, and that’s in my circle. This spans over decades in the different jobs and sectors I worked at, in different countries. Do you have a different experience around you? I have trouble convincing people to read for 30 minutes every day.\n
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            Better to have them making the decision than capitalists, who make more money for paying employees less\n
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            Also who says half of them have to be fired? Can’t everyone just work less?
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            > Late Victorian Age\n
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            It is literally a book about western liberal democracies committing genocide, including through intentionally creating famines.\n
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            > Oh, and you claim the Holodomor didn’t happen? Well, let me guess, Stalin also didn’t got 30 million sowiet people killed?\n
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            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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          +body: "Read “riding the wave” fo learn about how Scandinavian countries are beneficiaries of the imperialist system"
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            > Maybe you’ll change your mind one day and understand why the world we live in is the way we live in.\n
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            This from the person who is spouting econ 101 nonsense.
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      Your only question is “what am I missing” and the answer is an economics education.\n
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            > But to summarize. You basically want to wreck the current system on the basis that everyone will be diligent, reading all the time, just for the “greater good”, more so than their own profit.\n
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            No, that’s a strawman. People won’t all be diligent. But they will be more productive in general when they are not alienated from their labor. This has been proven with a bunch of economic data on socialist countries and data on cooperatives even within a capitalist environment.\n
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            > And btw, about the “bare minimum”. No one has a reason to not do the bare minimum as they don’t get fired (consequences). There will always be the lazy guy who does the bare minimum, and everyone will get lazier because they’ll get jealous with zero consequences.\n
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            You’re just literally describing capitalism and being like, what about this problem under socialism? The consequences are youre not contributing. Do you think everyone is suddenly going to be less motivated when they’re actually able to realize the product of their labor, instead of having a parasite on top taking it?
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            Thats it interesting scenario, but why are you assuming that there is a significant segment that won’t want to learn, especially when they’re no longer alienated from their labor? And why are you assuming that the total laborers will increase with new technology, when you can retrain existing workers?\n
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            I dont think your scenario is realistic, it kinda reads as really misanthropic
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            No, overthrowing capitalism and beginning a transition to a more rational economic system increases your life expectancy. You can literally look up graphs.\n
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            [statista.com/…/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041395/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/)
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          +body: "Yes. All of those countries had more civil rights and longer life expectancy after the revolution"
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            See you’re still trapped within the logic of capitalism which maximizes profits and expansion over other concerns.\n
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            > So, assuming we want to keep everyone (including useless people who’d rather have beer instead of reading a book to learn the new stuff), the income of everyone will just go down over time. Eventually, with no one getting fire there won’t be enough money to go around to feed them. What am I missing here?\n
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            These are all massive assumptions
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            Unfortunately in the case of econ 101, you are taught that 2+2=5 most modern econ is neoclassical, which means operating on pre-marx economics and just ignoring marxist critiques of the political economy.\n
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            > and money falls from the sky, and everyone being lazy leads to growth, I’ll ask them to justify.\n
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            Thats a mighty strawman you invented. Workers are going to do the bare minimum to not get fired when it literally doesn’t matter how much they work, their income will be the same. When workers are invested in an organization, they do more work.
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          +body: "THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves."
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            Literally sharing nazi propaganda from Hearst press lol\n
            \n
            Anyway, capitalism is known for never having famines or economic crises, especially not cyclical ones
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            You literally only have one question, the rest of it is opining.\n
            \n
            You’re assuming a wage labor model and that people working twice as efficiently and at half intensity would result in decreased production.\n
            \n
            1. wage labor models aren’t universal\n
            2. there is no reasoning stated for why production would go down\n
            \n
            You’re assuming people would have to be fired to maintain competitive growth. This is based on the logic of firms competing to capture market share. There isn’t really a rational reason for this to need to happen under systems were the point is to accommodate human need, not to maximize profit.
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          +body: "Do you think the shareholders are active in problem solving? Workers include basically everyone but the shareholders. The tech guys, the executives, the managers."
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          +body: "Read the economy and class structure of german fascism if you want a detailed explanation for “scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds”"
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            > And yes, the only pro-Western nation ever falling into a serious Food-Crisis was… Haiti.\n
            \n
            Read Late Victorian Holocausts if you want to be less wrong.\n
            \n
            > Well, actually I am sharing “Wikipedia Propaganda” but if you want to call Wikipedia Nazi-Propaganda…\n
            \n
            The holodomor was originally fabricated by a hearst press associate at a time when Mr Hearst and the third Reich were openly collaborating on spreading nazi propaganda in the US. The famine was bad but the myth that it was a genocide needs to die as it is literally nazi propaganda and was used as a justification for collaborating with the holocaust in Eastern Europe\n
            \n
            This is in fact the mainstream academic position. You may look to Conquest, Davies, and Wheatcroft, who are genuinely anticommunist historians, for their analysis (they all say it wasn’t a genocide)
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            > Because the fraction of the current world that reads every day and learns every day is extremely small.\n
            \n
            Socialist countries are famous for literacy and education drives\n
            \n
            > Again, like I said before, how many people around you come back from work and want to read technical books and watch courses instead of chilling, or hanging out with friends? I have two friends who are nut jobs like me and work all the time. EVERYONE else is lazy and just wants to have fun after work, and that’s in my circle. This spans over decades in the different jobs and sectors I worked at, in different countries. Do you have a different experience around you? I have trouble convincing people to read for 30 minutes every day.\n
            \n
            I dont think it is reasonable to assume humans will act the same way in all conditions. I know people who just slack off, and its generally because there is no incentive not to do the bare minimum when you are alienated from your labor
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            Better to have them making the decision than capitalists, who make more money for paying employees less\n
            \n
            Also who says half of them have to be fired? Can’t everyone just work less?
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            > Late Victorian Age\n
            \n
            It is literally a book about western liberal democracies committing genocide, including through intentionally creating famines.\n
            \n
            > Oh, and you claim the Holodomor didn’t happen? Well, let me guess, Stalin also didn’t got 30 million sowiet people killed?\n
            \n
            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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          +body: "Read “riding the wave” fo learn about how Scandinavian countries are beneficiaries of the imperialist system"
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            I will repeat:\n
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            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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            > Maybe you’ll change your mind one day and understand why the world we live in is the way we live in.\n
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            This from the person who is spouting econ 101 nonsense.
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      Your only question is “what am I missing” and the answer is an economics education.\n
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            > But to summarize. You basically want to wreck the current system on the basis that everyone will be diligent, reading all the time, just for the “greater good”, more so than their own profit.\n
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            You’re just literally describing capitalism and being like, what about this problem under socialism? The consequences are youre not contributing. Do you think everyone is suddenly going to be less motivated when they’re actually able to realize the product of their labor, instead of having a parasite on top taking it?
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            Thats it interesting scenario, but why are you assuming that there is a significant segment that won’t want to learn, especially when they’re no longer alienated from their labor? And why are you assuming that the total laborers will increase with new technology, when you can retrain existing workers?\n
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            I dont think your scenario is realistic, it kinda reads as really misanthropic
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            No, overthrowing capitalism and beginning a transition to a more rational economic system increases your life expectancy. You can literally look up graphs.\n
            \n
            [statista.com/…/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041395/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/)
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          +body: "Yes. All of those countries had more civil rights and longer life expectancy after the revolution"
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            See you’re still trapped within the logic of capitalism which maximizes profits and expansion over other concerns.\n
            \n
            > So, assuming we want to keep everyone (including useless people who’d rather have beer instead of reading a book to learn the new stuff), the income of everyone will just go down over time. Eventually, with no one getting fire there won’t be enough money to go around to feed them. What am I missing here?\n
            \n
            These are all massive assumptions
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            Unfortunately in the case of econ 101, you are taught that 2+2=5 most modern econ is neoclassical, which means operating on pre-marx economics and just ignoring marxist critiques of the political economy.\n
            \n
            > and money falls from the sky, and everyone being lazy leads to growth, I’ll ask them to justify.\n
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            Thats a mighty strawman you invented. Workers are going to do the bare minimum to not get fired when it literally doesn’t matter how much they work, their income will be the same. When workers are invested in an organization, they do more work.
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          +body: "THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves."
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            Literally sharing nazi propaganda from Hearst press lol\n
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            Anyway, capitalism is known for never having famines or economic crises, especially not cyclical ones
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            You literally only have one question, the rest of it is opining.\n
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            You’re assuming a wage labor model and that people working twice as efficiently and at half intensity would result in decreased production.\n
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            1. wage labor models aren’t universal\n
            2. there is no reasoning stated for why production would go down\n
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            You’re assuming people would have to be fired to maintain competitive growth. This is based on the logic of firms competing to capture market share. There isn’t really a rational reason for this to need to happen under systems were the point is to accommodate human need, not to maximize profit.
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          +body: "Do you think the shareholders are active in problem solving? Workers include basically everyone but the shareholders. The tech guys, the executives, the managers."
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          +body: "Read the economy and class structure of german fascism if you want a detailed explanation for “scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds”"
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            > And yes, the only pro-Western nation ever falling into a serious Food-Crisis was… Haiti.\n
            \n
            Read Late Victorian Holocausts if you want to be less wrong.\n
            \n
            > Well, actually I am sharing “Wikipedia Propaganda” but if you want to call Wikipedia Nazi-Propaganda…\n
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            The holodomor was originally fabricated by a hearst press associate at a time when Mr Hearst and the third Reich were openly collaborating on spreading nazi propaganda in the US. The famine was bad but the myth that it was a genocide needs to die as it is literally nazi propaganda and was used as a justification for collaborating with the holocaust in Eastern Europe\n
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            This is in fact the mainstream academic position. You may look to Conquest, Davies, and Wheatcroft, who are genuinely anticommunist historians, for their analysis (they all say it wasn’t a genocide)
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            > Because the fraction of the current world that reads every day and learns every day is extremely small.\n
            \n
            Socialist countries are famous for literacy and education drives\n
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            > Again, like I said before, how many people around you come back from work and want to read technical books and watch courses instead of chilling, or hanging out with friends? I have two friends who are nut jobs like me and work all the time. EVERYONE else is lazy and just wants to have fun after work, and that’s in my circle. This spans over decades in the different jobs and sectors I worked at, in different countries. Do you have a different experience around you? I have trouble convincing people to read for 30 minutes every day.\n
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            I dont think it is reasonable to assume humans will act the same way in all conditions. I know people who just slack off, and its generally because there is no incentive not to do the bare minimum when you are alienated from your labor
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            Better to have them making the decision than capitalists, who make more money for paying employees less\n
            \n
            Also who says half of them have to be fired? Can’t everyone just work less?
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            > Late Victorian Age\n
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            It is literally a book about western liberal democracies committing genocide, including through intentionally creating famines.\n
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            > Oh, and you claim the Holodomor didn’t happen? Well, let me guess, Stalin also didn’t got 30 million sowiet people killed?\n
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            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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          +body: "Read “riding the wave” fo learn about how Scandinavian countries are beneficiaries of the imperialist system"
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            I will repeat:\n
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            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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            > Maybe you’ll change your mind one day and understand why the world we live in is the way we live in.\n
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            This from the person who is spouting econ 101 nonsense.
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      Your only question is “what am I missing” and the answer is an economics education.\n
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      But to address your “concerns” you’re operating on the mindset of maximizing profit to compete against other firms maximizing profit, which is only a problem under capitalism (until you reach the monopoly stage)
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            > But to summarize. You basically want to wreck the current system on the basis that everyone will be diligent, reading all the time, just for the “greater good”, more so than their own profit.\n
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            No, that’s a strawman. People won’t all be diligent. But they will be more productive in general when they are not alienated from their labor. This has been proven with a bunch of economic data on socialist countries and data on cooperatives even within a capitalist environment.\n
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            > And btw, about the “bare minimum”. No one has a reason to not do the bare minimum as they don’t get fired (consequences). There will always be the lazy guy who does the bare minimum, and everyone will get lazier because they’ll get jealous with zero consequences.\n
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            You’re just literally describing capitalism and being like, what about this problem under socialism? The consequences are youre not contributing. Do you think everyone is suddenly going to be less motivated when they’re actually able to realize the product of their labor, instead of having a parasite on top taking it?
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            Thats it interesting scenario, but why are you assuming that there is a significant segment that won’t want to learn, especially when they’re no longer alienated from their labor? And why are you assuming that the total laborers will increase with new technology, when you can retrain existing workers?\n
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            I dont think your scenario is realistic, it kinda reads as really misanthropic
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            No, overthrowing capitalism and beginning a transition to a more rational economic system increases your life expectancy. You can literally look up graphs.\n
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            [statista.com/…/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041395/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/)
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            See you’re still trapped within the logic of capitalism which maximizes profits and expansion over other concerns.\n
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            > So, assuming we want to keep everyone (including useless people who’d rather have beer instead of reading a book to learn the new stuff), the income of everyone will just go down over time. Eventually, with no one getting fire there won’t be enough money to go around to feed them. What am I missing here?\n
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            These are all massive assumptions
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            Unfortunately in the case of econ 101, you are taught that 2+2=5 most modern econ is neoclassical, which means operating on pre-marx economics and just ignoring marxist critiques of the political economy.\n
            \n
            > and money falls from the sky, and everyone being lazy leads to growth, I’ll ask them to justify.\n
            \n
            Thats a mighty strawman you invented. Workers are going to do the bare minimum to not get fired when it literally doesn’t matter how much they work, their income will be the same. When workers are invested in an organization, they do more work.
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          +body: "THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves."
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            Literally sharing nazi propaganda from Hearst press lol\n
            \n
            Anyway, capitalism is known for never having famines or economic crises, especially not cyclical ones
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            You literally only have one question, the rest of it is opining.\n
            \n
            You’re assuming a wage labor model and that people working twice as efficiently and at half intensity would result in decreased production.\n
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            1. wage labor models aren’t universal\n
            2. there is no reasoning stated for why production would go down\n
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            You’re assuming people would have to be fired to maintain competitive growth. This is based on the logic of firms competing to capture market share. There isn’t really a rational reason for this to need to happen under systems were the point is to accommodate human need, not to maximize profit.
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          +body: "Do you think the shareholders are active in problem solving? Workers include basically everyone but the shareholders. The tech guys, the executives, the managers."
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          +body: "Read the economy and class structure of german fascism if you want a detailed explanation for “scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds”"
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          +body: """
            > And yes, the only pro-Western nation ever falling into a serious Food-Crisis was… Haiti.\n
            \n
            Read Late Victorian Holocausts if you want to be less wrong.\n
            \n
            > Well, actually I am sharing “Wikipedia Propaganda” but if you want to call Wikipedia Nazi-Propaganda…\n
            \n
            The holodomor was originally fabricated by a hearst press associate at a time when Mr Hearst and the third Reich were openly collaborating on spreading nazi propaganda in the US. The famine was bad but the myth that it was a genocide needs to die as it is literally nazi propaganda and was used as a justification for collaborating with the holocaust in Eastern Europe\n
            \n
            This is in fact the mainstream academic position. You may look to Conquest, Davies, and Wheatcroft, who are genuinely anticommunist historians, for their analysis (they all say it wasn’t a genocide)
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            > Because the fraction of the current world that reads every day and learns every day is extremely small.\n
            \n
            Socialist countries are famous for literacy and education drives\n
            \n
            > Again, like I said before, how many people around you come back from work and want to read technical books and watch courses instead of chilling, or hanging out with friends? I have two friends who are nut jobs like me and work all the time. EVERYONE else is lazy and just wants to have fun after work, and that’s in my circle. This spans over decades in the different jobs and sectors I worked at, in different countries. Do you have a different experience around you? I have trouble convincing people to read for 30 minutes every day.\n
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            I dont think it is reasonable to assume humans will act the same way in all conditions. I know people who just slack off, and its generally because there is no incentive not to do the bare minimum when you are alienated from your labor
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            Better to have them making the decision than capitalists, who make more money for paying employees less\n
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            Also who says half of them have to be fired? Can’t everyone just work less?
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            > Late Victorian Age\n
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            It is literally a book about western liberal democracies committing genocide, including through intentionally creating famines.\n
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            > Oh, and you claim the Holodomor didn’t happen? Well, let me guess, Stalin also didn’t got 30 million sowiet people killed?\n
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            I will repeat:\n
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            > Maybe you’ll change your mind one day and understand why the world we live in is the way we live in.\n
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            This from the person who is spouting econ 101 nonsense.
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      Your only question is “what am I missing” and the answer is an economics education.\n
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            > But to summarize. You basically want to wreck the current system on the basis that everyone will be diligent, reading all the time, just for the “greater good”, more so than their own profit.\n
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            No, that’s a strawman. People won’t all be diligent. But they will be more productive in general when they are not alienated from their labor. This has been proven with a bunch of economic data on socialist countries and data on cooperatives even within a capitalist environment.\n
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            > And btw, about the “bare minimum”. No one has a reason to not do the bare minimum as they don’t get fired (consequences). There will always be the lazy guy who does the bare minimum, and everyone will get lazier because they’ll get jealous with zero consequences.\n
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            You’re just literally describing capitalism and being like, what about this problem under socialism? The consequences are youre not contributing. Do you think everyone is suddenly going to be less motivated when they’re actually able to realize the product of their labor, instead of having a parasite on top taking it?
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            Thats it interesting scenario, but why are you assuming that there is a significant segment that won’t want to learn, especially when they’re no longer alienated from their labor? And why are you assuming that the total laborers will increase with new technology, when you can retrain existing workers?\n
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            I dont think your scenario is realistic, it kinda reads as really misanthropic
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            No, overthrowing capitalism and beginning a transition to a more rational economic system increases your life expectancy. You can literally look up graphs.\n
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            [statista.com/…/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041395/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/)
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          +body: "Yes. All of those countries had more civil rights and longer life expectancy after the revolution"
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            See you’re still trapped within the logic of capitalism which maximizes profits and expansion over other concerns.\n
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            > So, assuming we want to keep everyone (including useless people who’d rather have beer instead of reading a book to learn the new stuff), the income of everyone will just go down over time. Eventually, with no one getting fire there won’t be enough money to go around to feed them. What am I missing here?\n
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            These are all massive assumptions
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            Unfortunately in the case of econ 101, you are taught that 2+2=5 most modern econ is neoclassical, which means operating on pre-marx economics and just ignoring marxist critiques of the political economy.\n
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            > and money falls from the sky, and everyone being lazy leads to growth, I’ll ask them to justify.\n
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            Thats a mighty strawman you invented. Workers are going to do the bare minimum to not get fired when it literally doesn’t matter how much they work, their income will be the same. When workers are invested in an organization, they do more work.
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          +body: "THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves."
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            Literally sharing nazi propaganda from Hearst press lol\n
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            Anyway, capitalism is known for never having famines or economic crises, especially not cyclical ones
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            You literally only have one question, the rest of it is opining.\n
            \n
            You’re assuming a wage labor model and that people working twice as efficiently and at half intensity would result in decreased production.\n
            \n
            1. wage labor models aren’t universal\n
            2. there is no reasoning stated for why production would go down\n
            \n
            You’re assuming people would have to be fired to maintain competitive growth. This is based on the logic of firms competing to capture market share. There isn’t really a rational reason for this to need to happen under systems were the point is to accommodate human need, not to maximize profit.
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          +body: "Do you think the shareholders are active in problem solving? Workers include basically everyone but the shareholders. The tech guys, the executives, the managers."
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          +body: "Read the economy and class structure of german fascism if you want a detailed explanation for “scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds”"
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          +body: """
            > And yes, the only pro-Western nation ever falling into a serious Food-Crisis was… Haiti.\n
            \n
            Read Late Victorian Holocausts if you want to be less wrong.\n
            \n
            > Well, actually I am sharing “Wikipedia Propaganda” but if you want to call Wikipedia Nazi-Propaganda…\n
            \n
            The holodomor was originally fabricated by a hearst press associate at a time when Mr Hearst and the third Reich were openly collaborating on spreading nazi propaganda in the US. The famine was bad but the myth that it was a genocide needs to die as it is literally nazi propaganda and was used as a justification for collaborating with the holocaust in Eastern Europe\n
            \n
            This is in fact the mainstream academic position. You may look to Conquest, Davies, and Wheatcroft, who are genuinely anticommunist historians, for their analysis (they all say it wasn’t a genocide)
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          +body: """
            > Because the fraction of the current world that reads every day and learns every day is extremely small.\n
            \n
            Socialist countries are famous for literacy and education drives\n
            \n
            > Again, like I said before, how many people around you come back from work and want to read technical books and watch courses instead of chilling, or hanging out with friends? I have two friends who are nut jobs like me and work all the time. EVERYONE else is lazy and just wants to have fun after work, and that’s in my circle. This spans over decades in the different jobs and sectors I worked at, in different countries. Do you have a different experience around you? I have trouble convincing people to read for 30 minutes every day.\n
            \n
            I dont think it is reasonable to assume humans will act the same way in all conditions. I know people who just slack off, and its generally because there is no incentive not to do the bare minimum when you are alienated from your labor
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            Better to have them making the decision than capitalists, who make more money for paying employees less\n
            \n
            Also who says half of them have to be fired? Can’t everyone just work less?
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          +body: """
            Your only question is “what am I missing” and the answer is an economics education.\n
            \n
            But to address your “concerns” you’re operating on the mindset of maximizing profit to compete against other firms maximizing profit, which is only a problem under capitalism (until you reach the monopoly stage)
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          +body: "Read “riding the wave” fo learn about how Scandinavian countries are beneficiaries of the imperialist system"
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          +body: """
            I will repeat:\n
            \n
            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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          +body: """
            > Maybe you’ll change your mind one day and understand why the world we live in is the way we live in.\n
            \n
            This from the person who is spouting econ 101 nonsense.
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      > Late Victorian Age\n
      \n
      It is literally a book about western liberal democracies committing genocide, including through intentionally creating famines.\n
      \n
      > Oh, and you claim the Holodomor didn’t happen? Well, let me guess, Stalin also didn’t got 30 million sowiet people killed?\n
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      Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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            > But to summarize. You basically want to wreck the current system on the basis that everyone will be diligent, reading all the time, just for the “greater good”, more so than their own profit.\n
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            You’re just literally describing capitalism and being like, what about this problem under socialism? The consequences are youre not contributing. Do you think everyone is suddenly going to be less motivated when they’re actually able to realize the product of their labor, instead of having a parasite on top taking it?
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            Thats it interesting scenario, but why are you assuming that there is a significant segment that won’t want to learn, especially when they’re no longer alienated from their labor? And why are you assuming that the total laborers will increase with new technology, when you can retrain existing workers?\n
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            No, overthrowing capitalism and beginning a transition to a more rational economic system increases your life expectancy. You can literally look up graphs.\n
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            [statista.com/…/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041395/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/)
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          +body: "Yes. All of those countries had more civil rights and longer life expectancy after the revolution"
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            See you’re still trapped within the logic of capitalism which maximizes profits and expansion over other concerns.\n
            \n
            > So, assuming we want to keep everyone (including useless people who’d rather have beer instead of reading a book to learn the new stuff), the income of everyone will just go down over time. Eventually, with no one getting fire there won’t be enough money to go around to feed them. What am I missing here?\n
            \n
            These are all massive assumptions
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            Unfortunately in the case of econ 101, you are taught that 2+2=5 most modern econ is neoclassical, which means operating on pre-marx economics and just ignoring marxist critiques of the political economy.\n
            \n
            > and money falls from the sky, and everyone being lazy leads to growth, I’ll ask them to justify.\n
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            Thats a mighty strawman you invented. Workers are going to do the bare minimum to not get fired when it literally doesn’t matter how much they work, their income will be the same. When workers are invested in an organization, they do more work.
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          +body: "THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves."
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            Literally sharing nazi propaganda from Hearst press lol\n
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            Anyway, capitalism is known for never having famines or economic crises, especially not cyclical ones
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            You literally only have one question, the rest of it is opining.\n
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            You’re assuming a wage labor model and that people working twice as efficiently and at half intensity would result in decreased production.\n
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            1. wage labor models aren’t universal\n
            2. there is no reasoning stated for why production would go down\n
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            You’re assuming people would have to be fired to maintain competitive growth. This is based on the logic of firms competing to capture market share. There isn’t really a rational reason for this to need to happen under systems were the point is to accommodate human need, not to maximize profit.
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          +body: "Do you think the shareholders are active in problem solving? Workers include basically everyone but the shareholders. The tech guys, the executives, the managers."
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          +body: "Read the economy and class structure of german fascism if you want a detailed explanation for “scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds”"
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          +body: """
            > And yes, the only pro-Western nation ever falling into a serious Food-Crisis was… Haiti.\n
            \n
            Read Late Victorian Holocausts if you want to be less wrong.\n
            \n
            > Well, actually I am sharing “Wikipedia Propaganda” but if you want to call Wikipedia Nazi-Propaganda…\n
            \n
            The holodomor was originally fabricated by a hearst press associate at a time when Mr Hearst and the third Reich were openly collaborating on spreading nazi propaganda in the US. The famine was bad but the myth that it was a genocide needs to die as it is literally nazi propaganda and was used as a justification for collaborating with the holocaust in Eastern Europe\n
            \n
            This is in fact the mainstream academic position. You may look to Conquest, Davies, and Wheatcroft, who are genuinely anticommunist historians, for their analysis (they all say it wasn’t a genocide)
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            > Because the fraction of the current world that reads every day and learns every day is extremely small.\n
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            Socialist countries are famous for literacy and education drives\n
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            > Again, like I said before, how many people around you come back from work and want to read technical books and watch courses instead of chilling, or hanging out with friends? I have two friends who are nut jobs like me and work all the time. EVERYONE else is lazy and just wants to have fun after work, and that’s in my circle. This spans over decades in the different jobs and sectors I worked at, in different countries. Do you have a different experience around you? I have trouble convincing people to read for 30 minutes every day.\n
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            I dont think it is reasonable to assume humans will act the same way in all conditions. I know people who just slack off, and its generally because there is no incentive not to do the bare minimum when you are alienated from your labor
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            Better to have them making the decision than capitalists, who make more money for paying employees less\n
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            Also who says half of them have to be fired? Can’t everyone just work less?
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            Your only question is “what am I missing” and the answer is an economics education.\n
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            But to address your “concerns” you’re operating on the mindset of maximizing profit to compete against other firms maximizing profit, which is only a problem under capitalism (until you reach the monopoly stage)
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          +body: "Read “riding the wave” fo learn about how Scandinavian countries are beneficiaries of the imperialist system"
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            I will repeat:\n
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            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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            > Maybe you’ll change your mind one day and understand why the world we live in is the way we live in.\n
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            This from the person who is spouting econ 101 nonsense.
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      > Late Victorian Age\n
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      It is literally a book about western liberal democracies committing genocide, including through intentionally creating famines.\n
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      > Oh, and you claim the Holodomor didn’t happen? Well, let me guess, Stalin also didn’t got 30 million sowiet people killed?\n
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            > But to summarize. You basically want to wreck the current system on the basis that everyone will be diligent, reading all the time, just for the “greater good”, more so than their own profit.\n
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            No, that’s a strawman. People won’t all be diligent. But they will be more productive in general when they are not alienated from their labor. This has been proven with a bunch of economic data on socialist countries and data on cooperatives even within a capitalist environment.\n
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            > And btw, about the “bare minimum”. No one has a reason to not do the bare minimum as they don’t get fired (consequences). There will always be the lazy guy who does the bare minimum, and everyone will get lazier because they’ll get jealous with zero consequences.\n
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            You’re just literally describing capitalism and being like, what about this problem under socialism? The consequences are youre not contributing. Do you think everyone is suddenly going to be less motivated when they’re actually able to realize the product of their labor, instead of having a parasite on top taking it?
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            Thats it interesting scenario, but why are you assuming that there is a significant segment that won’t want to learn, especially when they’re no longer alienated from their labor? And why are you assuming that the total laborers will increase with new technology, when you can retrain existing workers?\n
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            I dont think your scenario is realistic, it kinda reads as really misanthropic
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            No, overthrowing capitalism and beginning a transition to a more rational economic system increases your life expectancy. You can literally look up graphs.\n
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            [statista.com/…/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041395/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/)
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          +body: "Yes. All of those countries had more civil rights and longer life expectancy after the revolution"
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            See you’re still trapped within the logic of capitalism which maximizes profits and expansion over other concerns.\n
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            > So, assuming we want to keep everyone (including useless people who’d rather have beer instead of reading a book to learn the new stuff), the income of everyone will just go down over time. Eventually, with no one getting fire there won’t be enough money to go around to feed them. What am I missing here?\n
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            These are all massive assumptions
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            Unfortunately in the case of econ 101, you are taught that 2+2=5 most modern econ is neoclassical, which means operating on pre-marx economics and just ignoring marxist critiques of the political economy.\n
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            > and money falls from the sky, and everyone being lazy leads to growth, I’ll ask them to justify.\n
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            Thats a mighty strawman you invented. Workers are going to do the bare minimum to not get fired when it literally doesn’t matter how much they work, their income will be the same. When workers are invested in an organization, they do more work.
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          +body: "THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves."
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            Literally sharing nazi propaganda from Hearst press lol\n
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            Anyway, capitalism is known for never having famines or economic crises, especially not cyclical ones
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            You literally only have one question, the rest of it is opining.\n
            \n
            You’re assuming a wage labor model and that people working twice as efficiently and at half intensity would result in decreased production.\n
            \n
            1. wage labor models aren’t universal\n
            2. there is no reasoning stated for why production would go down\n
            \n
            You’re assuming people would have to be fired to maintain competitive growth. This is based on the logic of firms competing to capture market share. There isn’t really a rational reason for this to need to happen under systems were the point is to accommodate human need, not to maximize profit.
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          +body: "Do you think the shareholders are active in problem solving? Workers include basically everyone but the shareholders. The tech guys, the executives, the managers."
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          +body: "Read the economy and class structure of german fascism if you want a detailed explanation for “scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds”"
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          +body: """
            > And yes, the only pro-Western nation ever falling into a serious Food-Crisis was… Haiti.\n
            \n
            Read Late Victorian Holocausts if you want to be less wrong.\n
            \n
            > Well, actually I am sharing “Wikipedia Propaganda” but if you want to call Wikipedia Nazi-Propaganda…\n
            \n
            The holodomor was originally fabricated by a hearst press associate at a time when Mr Hearst and the third Reich were openly collaborating on spreading nazi propaganda in the US. The famine was bad but the myth that it was a genocide needs to die as it is literally nazi propaganda and was used as a justification for collaborating with the holocaust in Eastern Europe\n
            \n
            This is in fact the mainstream academic position. You may look to Conquest, Davies, and Wheatcroft, who are genuinely anticommunist historians, for their analysis (they all say it wasn’t a genocide)
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          +body: """
            > Because the fraction of the current world that reads every day and learns every day is extremely small.\n
            \n
            Socialist countries are famous for literacy and education drives\n
            \n
            > Again, like I said before, how many people around you come back from work and want to read technical books and watch courses instead of chilling, or hanging out with friends? I have two friends who are nut jobs like me and work all the time. EVERYONE else is lazy and just wants to have fun after work, and that’s in my circle. This spans over decades in the different jobs and sectors I worked at, in different countries. Do you have a different experience around you? I have trouble convincing people to read for 30 minutes every day.\n
            \n
            I dont think it is reasonable to assume humans will act the same way in all conditions. I know people who just slack off, and its generally because there is no incentive not to do the bare minimum when you are alienated from your labor
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            Better to have them making the decision than capitalists, who make more money for paying employees less\n
            \n
            Also who says half of them have to be fired? Can’t everyone just work less?
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          +body: """
            Your only question is “what am I missing” and the answer is an economics education.\n
            \n
            But to address your “concerns” you’re operating on the mindset of maximizing profit to compete against other firms maximizing profit, which is only a problem under capitalism (until you reach the monopoly stage)
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          +body: "Read “riding the wave” fo learn about how Scandinavian countries are beneficiaries of the imperialist system"
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          +body: """
            I will repeat:\n
            \n
            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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          +body: """
            > Maybe you’ll change your mind one day and understand why the world we live in is the way we live in.\n
            \n
            This from the person who is spouting econ 101 nonsense.
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      > Late Victorian Age\n
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      It is literally a book about western liberal democracies committing genocide, including through intentionally creating famines.\n
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      > Oh, and you claim the Holodomor didn’t happen? Well, let me guess, Stalin also didn’t got 30 million sowiet people killed?\n
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            > But to summarize. You basically want to wreck the current system on the basis that everyone will be diligent, reading all the time, just for the “greater good”, more so than their own profit.\n
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            You’re just literally describing capitalism and being like, what about this problem under socialism? The consequences are youre not contributing. Do you think everyone is suddenly going to be less motivated when they’re actually able to realize the product of their labor, instead of having a parasite on top taking it?
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            Thats it interesting scenario, but why are you assuming that there is a significant segment that won’t want to learn, especially when they’re no longer alienated from their labor? And why are you assuming that the total laborers will increase with new technology, when you can retrain existing workers?\n
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            No, overthrowing capitalism and beginning a transition to a more rational economic system increases your life expectancy. You can literally look up graphs.\n
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            [statista.com/…/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041395/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/)
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          +body: "Yes. All of those countries had more civil rights and longer life expectancy after the revolution"
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            See you’re still trapped within the logic of capitalism which maximizes profits and expansion over other concerns.\n
            \n
            > So, assuming we want to keep everyone (including useless people who’d rather have beer instead of reading a book to learn the new stuff), the income of everyone will just go down over time. Eventually, with no one getting fire there won’t be enough money to go around to feed them. What am I missing here?\n
            \n
            These are all massive assumptions
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            Unfortunately in the case of econ 101, you are taught that 2+2=5 most modern econ is neoclassical, which means operating on pre-marx economics and just ignoring marxist critiques of the political economy.\n
            \n
            > and money falls from the sky, and everyone being lazy leads to growth, I’ll ask them to justify.\n
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            Thats a mighty strawman you invented. Workers are going to do the bare minimum to not get fired when it literally doesn’t matter how much they work, their income will be the same. When workers are invested in an organization, they do more work.
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          +body: "THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves."
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            Literally sharing nazi propaganda from Hearst press lol\n
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            Anyway, capitalism is known for never having famines or economic crises, especially not cyclical ones
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            You literally only have one question, the rest of it is opining.\n
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            You’re assuming a wage labor model and that people working twice as efficiently and at half intensity would result in decreased production.\n
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            1. wage labor models aren’t universal\n
            2. there is no reasoning stated for why production would go down\n
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            You’re assuming people would have to be fired to maintain competitive growth. This is based on the logic of firms competing to capture market share. There isn’t really a rational reason for this to need to happen under systems were the point is to accommodate human need, not to maximize profit.
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          +body: "Do you think the shareholders are active in problem solving? Workers include basically everyone but the shareholders. The tech guys, the executives, the managers."
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          +body: "Read the economy and class structure of german fascism if you want a detailed explanation for “scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds”"
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          +body: """
            > And yes, the only pro-Western nation ever falling into a serious Food-Crisis was… Haiti.\n
            \n
            Read Late Victorian Holocausts if you want to be less wrong.\n
            \n
            > Well, actually I am sharing “Wikipedia Propaganda” but if you want to call Wikipedia Nazi-Propaganda…\n
            \n
            The holodomor was originally fabricated by a hearst press associate at a time when Mr Hearst and the third Reich were openly collaborating on spreading nazi propaganda in the US. The famine was bad but the myth that it was a genocide needs to die as it is literally nazi propaganda and was used as a justification for collaborating with the holocaust in Eastern Europe\n
            \n
            This is in fact the mainstream academic position. You may look to Conquest, Davies, and Wheatcroft, who are genuinely anticommunist historians, for their analysis (they all say it wasn’t a genocide)
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            > Because the fraction of the current world that reads every day and learns every day is extremely small.\n
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            Socialist countries are famous for literacy and education drives\n
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            > Again, like I said before, how many people around you come back from work and want to read technical books and watch courses instead of chilling, or hanging out with friends? I have two friends who are nut jobs like me and work all the time. EVERYONE else is lazy and just wants to have fun after work, and that’s in my circle. This spans over decades in the different jobs and sectors I worked at, in different countries. Do you have a different experience around you? I have trouble convincing people to read for 30 minutes every day.\n
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            Better to have them making the decision than capitalists, who make more money for paying employees less\n
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            Also who says half of them have to be fired? Can’t everyone just work less?
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            Your only question is “what am I missing” and the answer is an economics education.\n
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            But to address your “concerns” you’re operating on the mindset of maximizing profit to compete against other firms maximizing profit, which is only a problem under capitalism (until you reach the monopoly stage)
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            I will repeat:\n
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            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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            > Maybe you’ll change your mind one day and understand why the world we live in is the way we live in.\n
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            This from the person who is spouting econ 101 nonsense.
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      > Late Victorian Age\n
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      It is literally a book about western liberal democracies committing genocide, including through intentionally creating famines.\n
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            > But to summarize. You basically want to wreck the current system on the basis that everyone will be diligent, reading all the time, just for the “greater good”, more so than their own profit.\n
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            No, that’s a strawman. People won’t all be diligent. But they will be more productive in general when they are not alienated from their labor. This has been proven with a bunch of economic data on socialist countries and data on cooperatives even within a capitalist environment.\n
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            > And btw, about the “bare minimum”. No one has a reason to not do the bare minimum as they don’t get fired (consequences). There will always be the lazy guy who does the bare minimum, and everyone will get lazier because they’ll get jealous with zero consequences.\n
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            You’re just literally describing capitalism and being like, what about this problem under socialism? The consequences are youre not contributing. Do you think everyone is suddenly going to be less motivated when they’re actually able to realize the product of their labor, instead of having a parasite on top taking it?
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            Thats it interesting scenario, but why are you assuming that there is a significant segment that won’t want to learn, especially when they’re no longer alienated from their labor? And why are you assuming that the total laborers will increase with new technology, when you can retrain existing workers?\n
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            I dont think your scenario is realistic, it kinda reads as really misanthropic
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            No, overthrowing capitalism and beginning a transition to a more rational economic system increases your life expectancy. You can literally look up graphs.\n
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            [statista.com/…/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041395/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/)
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          +body: "Yes. All of those countries had more civil rights and longer life expectancy after the revolution"
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            See you’re still trapped within the logic of capitalism which maximizes profits and expansion over other concerns.\n
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            > So, assuming we want to keep everyone (including useless people who’d rather have beer instead of reading a book to learn the new stuff), the income of everyone will just go down over time. Eventually, with no one getting fire there won’t be enough money to go around to feed them. What am I missing here?\n
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            These are all massive assumptions
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            Unfortunately in the case of econ 101, you are taught that 2+2=5 most modern econ is neoclassical, which means operating on pre-marx economics and just ignoring marxist critiques of the political economy.\n
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            Thats a mighty strawman you invented. Workers are going to do the bare minimum to not get fired when it literally doesn’t matter how much they work, their income will be the same. When workers are invested in an organization, they do more work.
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          +body: "THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves."
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            Literally sharing nazi propaganda from Hearst press lol\n
            \n
            Anyway, capitalism is known for never having famines or economic crises, especially not cyclical ones
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            You literally only have one question, the rest of it is opining.\n
            \n
            You’re assuming a wage labor model and that people working twice as efficiently and at half intensity would result in decreased production.\n
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            1. wage labor models aren’t universal\n
            2. there is no reasoning stated for why production would go down\n
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            You’re assuming people would have to be fired to maintain competitive growth. This is based on the logic of firms competing to capture market share. There isn’t really a rational reason for this to need to happen under systems were the point is to accommodate human need, not to maximize profit.
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          +body: "Do you think the shareholders are active in problem solving? Workers include basically everyone but the shareholders. The tech guys, the executives, the managers."
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          +body: "Read the economy and class structure of german fascism if you want a detailed explanation for “scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds”"
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          +body: """
            > And yes, the only pro-Western nation ever falling into a serious Food-Crisis was… Haiti.\n
            \n
            Read Late Victorian Holocausts if you want to be less wrong.\n
            \n
            > Well, actually I am sharing “Wikipedia Propaganda” but if you want to call Wikipedia Nazi-Propaganda…\n
            \n
            The holodomor was originally fabricated by a hearst press associate at a time when Mr Hearst and the third Reich were openly collaborating on spreading nazi propaganda in the US. The famine was bad but the myth that it was a genocide needs to die as it is literally nazi propaganda and was used as a justification for collaborating with the holocaust in Eastern Europe\n
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            This is in fact the mainstream academic position. You may look to Conquest, Davies, and Wheatcroft, who are genuinely anticommunist historians, for their analysis (they all say it wasn’t a genocide)
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            > Because the fraction of the current world that reads every day and learns every day is extremely small.\n
            \n
            Socialist countries are famous for literacy and education drives\n
            \n
            > Again, like I said before, how many people around you come back from work and want to read technical books and watch courses instead of chilling, or hanging out with friends? I have two friends who are nut jobs like me and work all the time. EVERYONE else is lazy and just wants to have fun after work, and that’s in my circle. This spans over decades in the different jobs and sectors I worked at, in different countries. Do you have a different experience around you? I have trouble convincing people to read for 30 minutes every day.\n
            \n
            I dont think it is reasonable to assume humans will act the same way in all conditions. I know people who just slack off, and its generally because there is no incentive not to do the bare minimum when you are alienated from your labor
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            Better to have them making the decision than capitalists, who make more money for paying employees less\n
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            Also who says half of them have to be fired? Can’t everyone just work less?
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            Your only question is “what am I missing” and the answer is an economics education.\n
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            But to address your “concerns” you’re operating on the mindset of maximizing profit to compete against other firms maximizing profit, which is only a problem under capitalism (until you reach the monopoly stage)
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            > Maybe you’ll change your mind one day and understand why the world we live in is the way we live in.\n
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            This from the person who is spouting econ 101 nonsense.
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      > Late Victorian Age\n
      \n
      It is literally a book about western liberal democracies committing genocide, including through intentionally creating famines.\n
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            Thats it interesting scenario, but why are you assuming that there is a significant segment that won’t want to learn, especially when they’re no longer alienated from their labor? And why are you assuming that the total laborers will increase with new technology, when you can retrain existing workers?\n
            \n
            I dont think your scenario is realistic, it kinda reads as really misanthropic
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            No, overthrowing capitalism and beginning a transition to a more rational economic system increases your life expectancy. You can literally look up graphs.\n
            \n
            [statista.com/…/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041395/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/)
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          +body: "Yes. All of those countries had more civil rights and longer life expectancy after the revolution"
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            See you’re still trapped within the logic of capitalism which maximizes profits and expansion over other concerns.\n
            \n
            > So, assuming we want to keep everyone (including useless people who’d rather have beer instead of reading a book to learn the new stuff), the income of everyone will just go down over time. Eventually, with no one getting fire there won’t be enough money to go around to feed them. What am I missing here?\n
            \n
            These are all massive assumptions
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            Unfortunately in the case of econ 101, you are taught that 2+2=5 most modern econ is neoclassical, which means operating on pre-marx economics and just ignoring marxist critiques of the political economy.\n
            \n
            > and money falls from the sky, and everyone being lazy leads to growth, I’ll ask them to justify.\n
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            Thats a mighty strawman you invented. Workers are going to do the bare minimum to not get fired when it literally doesn’t matter how much they work, their income will be the same. When workers are invested in an organization, they do more work.
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          +body: "THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves."
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            Literally sharing nazi propaganda from Hearst press lol\n
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            Anyway, capitalism is known for never having famines or economic crises, especially not cyclical ones
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            You literally only have one question, the rest of it is opining.\n
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            You’re assuming a wage labor model and that people working twice as efficiently and at half intensity would result in decreased production.\n
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            1. wage labor models aren’t universal\n
            2. there is no reasoning stated for why production would go down\n
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            You’re assuming people would have to be fired to maintain competitive growth. This is based on the logic of firms competing to capture market share. There isn’t really a rational reason for this to need to happen under systems were the point is to accommodate human need, not to maximize profit.
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          +body: "Do you think the shareholders are active in problem solving? Workers include basically everyone but the shareholders. The tech guys, the executives, the managers."
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          +body: "Read the economy and class structure of german fascism if you want a detailed explanation for “scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds”"
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            > And yes, the only pro-Western nation ever falling into a serious Food-Crisis was… Haiti.\n
            \n
            Read Late Victorian Holocausts if you want to be less wrong.\n
            \n
            > Well, actually I am sharing “Wikipedia Propaganda” but if you want to call Wikipedia Nazi-Propaganda…\n
            \n
            The holodomor was originally fabricated by a hearst press associate at a time when Mr Hearst and the third Reich were openly collaborating on spreading nazi propaganda in the US. The famine was bad but the myth that it was a genocide needs to die as it is literally nazi propaganda and was used as a justification for collaborating with the holocaust in Eastern Europe\n
            \n
            This is in fact the mainstream academic position. You may look to Conquest, Davies, and Wheatcroft, who are genuinely anticommunist historians, for their analysis (they all say it wasn’t a genocide)
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            > Because the fraction of the current world that reads every day and learns every day is extremely small.\n
            \n
            Socialist countries are famous for literacy and education drives\n
            \n
            > Again, like I said before, how many people around you come back from work and want to read technical books and watch courses instead of chilling, or hanging out with friends? I have two friends who are nut jobs like me and work all the time. EVERYONE else is lazy and just wants to have fun after work, and that’s in my circle. This spans over decades in the different jobs and sectors I worked at, in different countries. Do you have a different experience around you? I have trouble convincing people to read for 30 minutes every day.\n
            \n
            I dont think it is reasonable to assume humans will act the same way in all conditions. I know people who just slack off, and its generally because there is no incentive not to do the bare minimum when you are alienated from your labor
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            Better to have them making the decision than capitalists, who make more money for paying employees less\n
            \n
            Also who says half of them have to be fired? Can’t everyone just work less?
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            Your only question is “what am I missing” and the answer is an economics education.\n
            \n
            But to address your “concerns” you’re operating on the mindset of maximizing profit to compete against other firms maximizing profit, which is only a problem under capitalism (until you reach the monopoly stage)
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          +body: "Read “riding the wave” fo learn about how Scandinavian countries are beneficiaries of the imperialist system"
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            I will repeat:\n
            \n
            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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            > Maybe you’ll change your mind one day and understand why the world we live in is the way we live in.\n
            \n
            This from the person who is spouting econ 101 nonsense.
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      > Late Victorian Age\n
      \n
      It is literally a book about western liberal democracies committing genocide, including through intentionally creating famines.\n
      \n
      > Oh, and you claim the Holodomor didn’t happen? Well, let me guess, Stalin also didn’t got 30 million sowiet people killed?\n
      \n
      Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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            > But to summarize. You basically want to wreck the current system on the basis that everyone will be diligent, reading all the time, just for the “greater good”, more so than their own profit.\n
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            No, that’s a strawman. People won’t all be diligent. But they will be more productive in general when they are not alienated from their labor. This has been proven with a bunch of economic data on socialist countries and data on cooperatives even within a capitalist environment.\n
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            > And btw, about the “bare minimum”. No one has a reason to not do the bare minimum as they don’t get fired (consequences). There will always be the lazy guy who does the bare minimum, and everyone will get lazier because they’ll get jealous with zero consequences.\n
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            You’re just literally describing capitalism and being like, what about this problem under socialism? The consequences are youre not contributing. Do you think everyone is suddenly going to be less motivated when they’re actually able to realize the product of their labor, instead of having a parasite on top taking it?
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            Thats it interesting scenario, but why are you assuming that there is a significant segment that won’t want to learn, especially when they’re no longer alienated from their labor? And why are you assuming that the total laborers will increase with new technology, when you can retrain existing workers?\n
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            No, overthrowing capitalism and beginning a transition to a more rational economic system increases your life expectancy. You can literally look up graphs.\n
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            [statista.com/…/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041395/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/)
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          +body: "Yes. All of those countries had more civil rights and longer life expectancy after the revolution"
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            See you’re still trapped within the logic of capitalism which maximizes profits and expansion over other concerns.\n
            \n
            > So, assuming we want to keep everyone (including useless people who’d rather have beer instead of reading a book to learn the new stuff), the income of everyone will just go down over time. Eventually, with no one getting fire there won’t be enough money to go around to feed them. What am I missing here?\n
            \n
            These are all massive assumptions
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            Unfortunately in the case of econ 101, you are taught that 2+2=5 most modern econ is neoclassical, which means operating on pre-marx economics and just ignoring marxist critiques of the political economy.\n
            \n
            > and money falls from the sky, and everyone being lazy leads to growth, I’ll ask them to justify.\n
            \n
            Thats a mighty strawman you invented. Workers are going to do the bare minimum to not get fired when it literally doesn’t matter how much they work, their income will be the same. When workers are invested in an organization, they do more work.
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          +body: "THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves."
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            Literally sharing nazi propaganda from Hearst press lol\n
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            Anyway, capitalism is known for never having famines or economic crises, especially not cyclical ones
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            You literally only have one question, the rest of it is opining.\n
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            You’re assuming a wage labor model and that people working twice as efficiently and at half intensity would result in decreased production.\n
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            1. wage labor models aren’t universal\n
            2. there is no reasoning stated for why production would go down\n
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            You’re assuming people would have to be fired to maintain competitive growth. This is based on the logic of firms competing to capture market share. There isn’t really a rational reason for this to need to happen under systems were the point is to accommodate human need, not to maximize profit.
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          +body: "Do you think the shareholders are active in problem solving? Workers include basically everyone but the shareholders. The tech guys, the executives, the managers."
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          +body: "Read the economy and class structure of german fascism if you want a detailed explanation for “scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds”"
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          +body: """
            > And yes, the only pro-Western nation ever falling into a serious Food-Crisis was… Haiti.\n
            \n
            Read Late Victorian Holocausts if you want to be less wrong.\n
            \n
            > Well, actually I am sharing “Wikipedia Propaganda” but if you want to call Wikipedia Nazi-Propaganda…\n
            \n
            The holodomor was originally fabricated by a hearst press associate at a time when Mr Hearst and the third Reich were openly collaborating on spreading nazi propaganda in the US. The famine was bad but the myth that it was a genocide needs to die as it is literally nazi propaganda and was used as a justification for collaborating with the holocaust in Eastern Europe\n
            \n
            This is in fact the mainstream academic position. You may look to Conquest, Davies, and Wheatcroft, who are genuinely anticommunist historians, for their analysis (they all say it wasn’t a genocide)
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            > Because the fraction of the current world that reads every day and learns every day is extremely small.\n
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            Socialist countries are famous for literacy and education drives\n
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            > Again, like I said before, how many people around you come back from work and want to read technical books and watch courses instead of chilling, or hanging out with friends? I have two friends who are nut jobs like me and work all the time. EVERYONE else is lazy and just wants to have fun after work, and that’s in my circle. This spans over decades in the different jobs and sectors I worked at, in different countries. Do you have a different experience around you? I have trouble convincing people to read for 30 minutes every day.\n
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            Better to have them making the decision than capitalists, who make more money for paying employees less\n
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            Also who says half of them have to be fired? Can’t everyone just work less?
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            Your only question is “what am I missing” and the answer is an economics education.\n
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            But to address your “concerns” you’re operating on the mindset of maximizing profit to compete against other firms maximizing profit, which is only a problem under capitalism (until you reach the monopoly stage)
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            > Late Victorian Age\n
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            It is literally a book about western liberal democracies committing genocide, including through intentionally creating famines.\n
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            > Oh, and you claim the Holodomor didn’t happen? Well, let me guess, Stalin also didn’t got 30 million sowiet people killed?\n
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            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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            I will repeat:\n
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            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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            > Maybe you’ll change your mind one day and understand why the world we live in is the way we live in.\n
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            This from the person who is spouting econ 101 nonsense.
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            > But to summarize. You basically want to wreck the current system on the basis that everyone will be diligent, reading all the time, just for the “greater good”, more so than their own profit.\n
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            No, that’s a strawman. People won’t all be diligent. But they will be more productive in general when they are not alienated from their labor. This has been proven with a bunch of economic data on socialist countries and data on cooperatives even within a capitalist environment.\n
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            You’re just literally describing capitalism and being like, what about this problem under socialism? The consequences are youre not contributing. Do you think everyone is suddenly going to be less motivated when they’re actually able to realize the product of their labor, instead of having a parasite on top taking it?
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            Thats it interesting scenario, but why are you assuming that there is a significant segment that won’t want to learn, especially when they’re no longer alienated from their labor? And why are you assuming that the total laborers will increase with new technology, when you can retrain existing workers?\n
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            I dont think your scenario is realistic, it kinda reads as really misanthropic
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            No, overthrowing capitalism and beginning a transition to a more rational economic system increases your life expectancy. You can literally look up graphs.\n
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            [statista.com/…/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041395/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/)
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          +body: "Yes. All of those countries had more civil rights and longer life expectancy after the revolution"
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            See you’re still trapped within the logic of capitalism which maximizes profits and expansion over other concerns.\n
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            > So, assuming we want to keep everyone (including useless people who’d rather have beer instead of reading a book to learn the new stuff), the income of everyone will just go down over time. Eventually, with no one getting fire there won’t be enough money to go around to feed them. What am I missing here?\n
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            These are all massive assumptions
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            Unfortunately in the case of econ 101, you are taught that 2+2=5 most modern econ is neoclassical, which means operating on pre-marx economics and just ignoring marxist critiques of the political economy.\n
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            > and money falls from the sky, and everyone being lazy leads to growth, I’ll ask them to justify.\n
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            Thats a mighty strawman you invented. Workers are going to do the bare minimum to not get fired when it literally doesn’t matter how much they work, their income will be the same. When workers are invested in an organization, they do more work.
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            Literally sharing nazi propaganda from Hearst press lol\n
            \n
            Anyway, capitalism is known for never having famines or economic crises, especially not cyclical ones
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            You literally only have one question, the rest of it is opining.\n
            \n
            You’re assuming a wage labor model and that people working twice as efficiently and at half intensity would result in decreased production.\n
            \n
            1. wage labor models aren’t universal\n
            2. there is no reasoning stated for why production would go down\n
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            You’re assuming people would have to be fired to maintain competitive growth. This is based on the logic of firms competing to capture market share. There isn’t really a rational reason for this to need to happen under systems were the point is to accommodate human need, not to maximize profit.
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          +body: "Do you think the shareholders are active in problem solving? Workers include basically everyone but the shareholders. The tech guys, the executives, the managers."
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          +body: "Read the economy and class structure of german fascism if you want a detailed explanation for “scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds”"
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            > And yes, the only pro-Western nation ever falling into a serious Food-Crisis was… Haiti.\n
            \n
            Read Late Victorian Holocausts if you want to be less wrong.\n
            \n
            > Well, actually I am sharing “Wikipedia Propaganda” but if you want to call Wikipedia Nazi-Propaganda…\n
            \n
            The holodomor was originally fabricated by a hearst press associate at a time when Mr Hearst and the third Reich were openly collaborating on spreading nazi propaganda in the US. The famine was bad but the myth that it was a genocide needs to die as it is literally nazi propaganda and was used as a justification for collaborating with the holocaust in Eastern Europe\n
            \n
            This is in fact the mainstream academic position. You may look to Conquest, Davies, and Wheatcroft, who are genuinely anticommunist historians, for their analysis (they all say it wasn’t a genocide)
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            > Because the fraction of the current world that reads every day and learns every day is extremely small.\n
            \n
            Socialist countries are famous for literacy and education drives\n
            \n
            > Again, like I said before, how many people around you come back from work and want to read technical books and watch courses instead of chilling, or hanging out with friends? I have two friends who are nut jobs like me and work all the time. EVERYONE else is lazy and just wants to have fun after work, and that’s in my circle. This spans over decades in the different jobs and sectors I worked at, in different countries. Do you have a different experience around you? I have trouble convincing people to read for 30 minutes every day.\n
            \n
            I dont think it is reasonable to assume humans will act the same way in all conditions. I know people who just slack off, and its generally because there is no incentive not to do the bare minimum when you are alienated from your labor
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            Better to have them making the decision than capitalists, who make more money for paying employees less\n
            \n
            Also who says half of them have to be fired? Can’t everyone just work less?
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            Your only question is “what am I missing” and the answer is an economics education.\n
            \n
            But to address your “concerns” you’re operating on the mindset of maximizing profit to compete against other firms maximizing profit, which is only a problem under capitalism (until you reach the monopoly stage)
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            > Late Victorian Age\n
            \n
            It is literally a book about western liberal democracies committing genocide, including through intentionally creating famines.\n
            \n
            > Oh, and you claim the Holodomor didn’t happen? Well, let me guess, Stalin also didn’t got 30 million sowiet people killed?\n
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            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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            > But to summarize. You basically want to wreck the current system on the basis that everyone will be diligent, reading all the time, just for the “greater good”, more so than their own profit.\n
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            You’re just literally describing capitalism and being like, what about this problem under socialism? The consequences are youre not contributing. Do you think everyone is suddenly going to be less motivated when they’re actually able to realize the product of their labor, instead of having a parasite on top taking it?
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            Thats it interesting scenario, but why are you assuming that there is a significant segment that won’t want to learn, especially when they’re no longer alienated from their labor? And why are you assuming that the total laborers will increase with new technology, when you can retrain existing workers?\n
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            No, overthrowing capitalism and beginning a transition to a more rational economic system increases your life expectancy. You can literally look up graphs.\n
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            [statista.com/…/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041395/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/)
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          +body: "Yes. All of those countries had more civil rights and longer life expectancy after the revolution"
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            See you’re still trapped within the logic of capitalism which maximizes profits and expansion over other concerns.\n
            \n
            > So, assuming we want to keep everyone (including useless people who’d rather have beer instead of reading a book to learn the new stuff), the income of everyone will just go down over time. Eventually, with no one getting fire there won’t be enough money to go around to feed them. What am I missing here?\n
            \n
            These are all massive assumptions
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            Unfortunately in the case of econ 101, you are taught that 2+2=5 most modern econ is neoclassical, which means operating on pre-marx economics and just ignoring marxist critiques of the political economy.\n
            \n
            > and money falls from the sky, and everyone being lazy leads to growth, I’ll ask them to justify.\n
            \n
            Thats a mighty strawman you invented. Workers are going to do the bare minimum to not get fired when it literally doesn’t matter how much they work, their income will be the same. When workers are invested in an organization, they do more work.
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          +body: "THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves."
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            Literally sharing nazi propaganda from Hearst press lol\n
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            Anyway, capitalism is known for never having famines or economic crises, especially not cyclical ones
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            You literally only have one question, the rest of it is opining.\n
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            You’re assuming a wage labor model and that people working twice as efficiently and at half intensity would result in decreased production.\n
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            1. wage labor models aren’t universal\n
            2. there is no reasoning stated for why production would go down\n
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            You’re assuming people would have to be fired to maintain competitive growth. This is based on the logic of firms competing to capture market share. There isn’t really a rational reason for this to need to happen under systems were the point is to accommodate human need, not to maximize profit.
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          +body: "Do you think the shareholders are active in problem solving? Workers include basically everyone but the shareholders. The tech guys, the executives, the managers."
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          +body: "Read the economy and class structure of german fascism if you want a detailed explanation for “scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds”"
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          +body: """
            > And yes, the only pro-Western nation ever falling into a serious Food-Crisis was… Haiti.\n
            \n
            Read Late Victorian Holocausts if you want to be less wrong.\n
            \n
            > Well, actually I am sharing “Wikipedia Propaganda” but if you want to call Wikipedia Nazi-Propaganda…\n
            \n
            The holodomor was originally fabricated by a hearst press associate at a time when Mr Hearst and the third Reich were openly collaborating on spreading nazi propaganda in the US. The famine was bad but the myth that it was a genocide needs to die as it is literally nazi propaganda and was used as a justification for collaborating with the holocaust in Eastern Europe\n
            \n
            This is in fact the mainstream academic position. You may look to Conquest, Davies, and Wheatcroft, who are genuinely anticommunist historians, for their analysis (they all say it wasn’t a genocide)
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            > Because the fraction of the current world that reads every day and learns every day is extremely small.\n
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            Socialist countries are famous for literacy and education drives\n
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            > Again, like I said before, how many people around you come back from work and want to read technical books and watch courses instead of chilling, or hanging out with friends? I have two friends who are nut jobs like me and work all the time. EVERYONE else is lazy and just wants to have fun after work, and that’s in my circle. This spans over decades in the different jobs and sectors I worked at, in different countries. Do you have a different experience around you? I have trouble convincing people to read for 30 minutes every day.\n
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            Better to have them making the decision than capitalists, who make more money for paying employees less\n
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            Also who says half of them have to be fired? Can’t everyone just work less?
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            Your only question is “what am I missing” and the answer is an economics education.\n
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            But to address your “concerns” you’re operating on the mindset of maximizing profit to compete against other firms maximizing profit, which is only a problem under capitalism (until you reach the monopoly stage)
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            > Late Victorian Age\n
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            It is literally a book about western liberal democracies committing genocide, including through intentionally creating famines.\n
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            > Oh, and you claim the Holodomor didn’t happen? Well, let me guess, Stalin also didn’t got 30 million sowiet people killed?\n
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            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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            I will repeat:\n
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            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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            > Maybe you’ll change your mind one day and understand why the world we live in is the way we live in.\n
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            This from the person who is spouting econ 101 nonsense.
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            > But to summarize. You basically want to wreck the current system on the basis that everyone will be diligent, reading all the time, just for the “greater good”, more so than their own profit.\n
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            No, that’s a strawman. People won’t all be diligent. But they will be more productive in general when they are not alienated from their labor. This has been proven with a bunch of economic data on socialist countries and data on cooperatives even within a capitalist environment.\n
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            > And btw, about the “bare minimum”. No one has a reason to not do the bare minimum as they don’t get fired (consequences). There will always be the lazy guy who does the bare minimum, and everyone will get lazier because they’ll get jealous with zero consequences.\n
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            You’re just literally describing capitalism and being like, what about this problem under socialism? The consequences are youre not contributing. Do you think everyone is suddenly going to be less motivated when they’re actually able to realize the product of their labor, instead of having a parasite on top taking it?
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            Thats it interesting scenario, but why are you assuming that there is a significant segment that won’t want to learn, especially when they’re no longer alienated from their labor? And why are you assuming that the total laborers will increase with new technology, when you can retrain existing workers?\n
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            I dont think your scenario is realistic, it kinda reads as really misanthropic
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            No, overthrowing capitalism and beginning a transition to a more rational economic system increases your life expectancy. You can literally look up graphs.\n
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            [statista.com/…/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041395/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/)
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          +body: "Yes. All of those countries had more civil rights and longer life expectancy after the revolution"
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            See you’re still trapped within the logic of capitalism which maximizes profits and expansion over other concerns.\n
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            > So, assuming we want to keep everyone (including useless people who’d rather have beer instead of reading a book to learn the new stuff), the income of everyone will just go down over time. Eventually, with no one getting fire there won’t be enough money to go around to feed them. What am I missing here?\n
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            These are all massive assumptions
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            Unfortunately in the case of econ 101, you are taught that 2+2=5 most modern econ is neoclassical, which means operating on pre-marx economics and just ignoring marxist critiques of the political economy.\n
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            > and money falls from the sky, and everyone being lazy leads to growth, I’ll ask them to justify.\n
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            Thats a mighty strawman you invented. Workers are going to do the bare minimum to not get fired when it literally doesn’t matter how much they work, their income will be the same. When workers are invested in an organization, they do more work.
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          +body: "THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves."
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            Literally sharing nazi propaganda from Hearst press lol\n
            \n
            Anyway, capitalism is known for never having famines or economic crises, especially not cyclical ones
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            You literally only have one question, the rest of it is opining.\n
            \n
            You’re assuming a wage labor model and that people working twice as efficiently and at half intensity would result in decreased production.\n
            \n
            1. wage labor models aren’t universal\n
            2. there is no reasoning stated for why production would go down\n
            \n
            You’re assuming people would have to be fired to maintain competitive growth. This is based on the logic of firms competing to capture market share. There isn’t really a rational reason for this to need to happen under systems were the point is to accommodate human need, not to maximize profit.
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          +body: "Do you think the shareholders are active in problem solving? Workers include basically everyone but the shareholders. The tech guys, the executives, the managers."
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          +body: "Read the economy and class structure of german fascism if you want a detailed explanation for “scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds”"
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            > And yes, the only pro-Western nation ever falling into a serious Food-Crisis was… Haiti.\n
            \n
            Read Late Victorian Holocausts if you want to be less wrong.\n
            \n
            > Well, actually I am sharing “Wikipedia Propaganda” but if you want to call Wikipedia Nazi-Propaganda…\n
            \n
            The holodomor was originally fabricated by a hearst press associate at a time when Mr Hearst and the third Reich were openly collaborating on spreading nazi propaganda in the US. The famine was bad but the myth that it was a genocide needs to die as it is literally nazi propaganda and was used as a justification for collaborating with the holocaust in Eastern Europe\n
            \n
            This is in fact the mainstream academic position. You may look to Conquest, Davies, and Wheatcroft, who are genuinely anticommunist historians, for their analysis (they all say it wasn’t a genocide)
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            > Because the fraction of the current world that reads every day and learns every day is extremely small.\n
            \n
            Socialist countries are famous for literacy and education drives\n
            \n
            > Again, like I said before, how many people around you come back from work and want to read technical books and watch courses instead of chilling, or hanging out with friends? I have two friends who are nut jobs like me and work all the time. EVERYONE else is lazy and just wants to have fun after work, and that’s in my circle. This spans over decades in the different jobs and sectors I worked at, in different countries. Do you have a different experience around you? I have trouble convincing people to read for 30 minutes every day.\n
            \n
            I dont think it is reasonable to assume humans will act the same way in all conditions. I know people who just slack off, and its generally because there is no incentive not to do the bare minimum when you are alienated from your labor
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            Better to have them making the decision than capitalists, who make more money for paying employees less\n
            \n
            Also who says half of them have to be fired? Can’t everyone just work less?
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            Your only question is “what am I missing” and the answer is an economics education.\n
            \n
            But to address your “concerns” you’re operating on the mindset of maximizing profit to compete against other firms maximizing profit, which is only a problem under capitalism (until you reach the monopoly stage)
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            > Late Victorian Age\n
            \n
            It is literally a book about western liberal democracies committing genocide, including through intentionally creating famines.\n
            \n
            > Oh, and you claim the Holodomor didn’t happen? Well, let me guess, Stalin also didn’t got 30 million sowiet people killed?\n
            \n
            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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            I will repeat:\n
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            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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            Thats it interesting scenario, but why are you assuming that there is a significant segment that won’t want to learn, especially when they’re no longer alienated from their labor? And why are you assuming that the total laborers will increase with new technology, when you can retrain existing workers?\n
            \n
            I dont think your scenario is realistic, it kinda reads as really misanthropic
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            No, overthrowing capitalism and beginning a transition to a more rational economic system increases your life expectancy. You can literally look up graphs.\n
            \n
            [statista.com/…/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041395/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/)
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          +body: "Yes. All of those countries had more civil rights and longer life expectancy after the revolution"
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            See you’re still trapped within the logic of capitalism which maximizes profits and expansion over other concerns.\n
            \n
            > So, assuming we want to keep everyone (including useless people who’d rather have beer instead of reading a book to learn the new stuff), the income of everyone will just go down over time. Eventually, with no one getting fire there won’t be enough money to go around to feed them. What am I missing here?\n
            \n
            These are all massive assumptions
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            Unfortunately in the case of econ 101, you are taught that 2+2=5 most modern econ is neoclassical, which means operating on pre-marx economics and just ignoring marxist critiques of the political economy.\n
            \n
            > and money falls from the sky, and everyone being lazy leads to growth, I’ll ask them to justify.\n
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            Thats a mighty strawman you invented. Workers are going to do the bare minimum to not get fired when it literally doesn’t matter how much they work, their income will be the same. When workers are invested in an organization, they do more work.
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          +body: "THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves."
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            Literally sharing nazi propaganda from Hearst press lol\n
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            Anyway, capitalism is known for never having famines or economic crises, especially not cyclical ones
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            You literally only have one question, the rest of it is opining.\n
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            You’re assuming a wage labor model and that people working twice as efficiently and at half intensity would result in decreased production.\n
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            1. wage labor models aren’t universal\n
            2. there is no reasoning stated for why production would go down\n
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            You’re assuming people would have to be fired to maintain competitive growth. This is based on the logic of firms competing to capture market share. There isn’t really a rational reason for this to need to happen under systems were the point is to accommodate human need, not to maximize profit.
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          +body: "Do you think the shareholders are active in problem solving? Workers include basically everyone but the shareholders. The tech guys, the executives, the managers."
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          +body: "Read the economy and class structure of german fascism if you want a detailed explanation for “scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds”"
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            > And yes, the only pro-Western nation ever falling into a serious Food-Crisis was… Haiti.\n
            \n
            Read Late Victorian Holocausts if you want to be less wrong.\n
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            > Well, actually I am sharing “Wikipedia Propaganda” but if you want to call Wikipedia Nazi-Propaganda…\n
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            The holodomor was originally fabricated by a hearst press associate at a time when Mr Hearst and the third Reich were openly collaborating on spreading nazi propaganda in the US. The famine was bad but the myth that it was a genocide needs to die as it is literally nazi propaganda and was used as a justification for collaborating with the holocaust in Eastern Europe\n
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            This is in fact the mainstream academic position. You may look to Conquest, Davies, and Wheatcroft, who are genuinely anticommunist historians, for their analysis (they all say it wasn’t a genocide)
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            > Because the fraction of the current world that reads every day and learns every day is extremely small.\n
            \n
            Socialist countries are famous for literacy and education drives\n
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            > Again, like I said before, how many people around you come back from work and want to read technical books and watch courses instead of chilling, or hanging out with friends? I have two friends who are nut jobs like me and work all the time. EVERYONE else is lazy and just wants to have fun after work, and that’s in my circle. This spans over decades in the different jobs and sectors I worked at, in different countries. Do you have a different experience around you? I have trouble convincing people to read for 30 minutes every day.\n
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            I dont think it is reasonable to assume humans will act the same way in all conditions. I know people who just slack off, and its generally because there is no incentive not to do the bare minimum when you are alienated from your labor
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            Better to have them making the decision than capitalists, who make more money for paying employees less\n
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            Also who says half of them have to be fired? Can’t everyone just work less?
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            Your only question is “what am I missing” and the answer is an economics education.\n
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            But to address your “concerns” you’re operating on the mindset of maximizing profit to compete against other firms maximizing profit, which is only a problem under capitalism (until you reach the monopoly stage)
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            > Late Victorian Age\n
            \n
            It is literally a book about western liberal democracies committing genocide, including through intentionally creating famines.\n
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            > Oh, and you claim the Holodomor didn’t happen? Well, let me guess, Stalin also didn’t got 30 million sowiet people killed?\n
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            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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            I will repeat:\n
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            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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            > Maybe you’ll change your mind one day and understand why the world we live in is the way we live in.\n
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            This from the person who is spouting econ 101 nonsense.
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            > But to summarize. You basically want to wreck the current system on the basis that everyone will be diligent, reading all the time, just for the “greater good”, more so than their own profit.\n
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            No, that’s a strawman. People won’t all be diligent. But they will be more productive in general when they are not alienated from their labor. This has been proven with a bunch of economic data on socialist countries and data on cooperatives even within a capitalist environment.\n
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            > And btw, about the “bare minimum”. No one has a reason to not do the bare minimum as they don’t get fired (consequences). There will always be the lazy guy who does the bare minimum, and everyone will get lazier because they’ll get jealous with zero consequences.\n
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            You’re just literally describing capitalism and being like, what about this problem under socialism? The consequences are youre not contributing. Do you think everyone is suddenly going to be less motivated when they’re actually able to realize the product of their labor, instead of having a parasite on top taking it?
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            Thats it interesting scenario, but why are you assuming that there is a significant segment that won’t want to learn, especially when they’re no longer alienated from their labor? And why are you assuming that the total laborers will increase with new technology, when you can retrain existing workers?\n
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            I dont think your scenario is realistic, it kinda reads as really misanthropic
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            No, overthrowing capitalism and beginning a transition to a more rational economic system increases your life expectancy. You can literally look up graphs.\n
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            [statista.com/…/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041395/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/)
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            See you’re still trapped within the logic of capitalism which maximizes profits and expansion over other concerns.\n
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            > So, assuming we want to keep everyone (including useless people who’d rather have beer instead of reading a book to learn the new stuff), the income of everyone will just go down over time. Eventually, with no one getting fire there won’t be enough money to go around to feed them. What am I missing here?\n
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            These are all massive assumptions
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            Unfortunately in the case of econ 101, you are taught that 2+2=5 most modern econ is neoclassical, which means operating on pre-marx economics and just ignoring marxist critiques of the political economy.\n
            \n
            > and money falls from the sky, and everyone being lazy leads to growth, I’ll ask them to justify.\n
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            Thats a mighty strawman you invented. Workers are going to do the bare minimum to not get fired when it literally doesn’t matter how much they work, their income will be the same. When workers are invested in an organization, they do more work.
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          +body: "THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves."
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            Literally sharing nazi propaganda from Hearst press lol\n
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            Anyway, capitalism is known for never having famines or economic crises, especially not cyclical ones
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            You literally only have one question, the rest of it is opining.\n
            \n
            You’re assuming a wage labor model and that people working twice as efficiently and at half intensity would result in decreased production.\n
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            1. wage labor models aren’t universal\n
            2. there is no reasoning stated for why production would go down\n
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            You’re assuming people would have to be fired to maintain competitive growth. This is based on the logic of firms competing to capture market share. There isn’t really a rational reason for this to need to happen under systems were the point is to accommodate human need, not to maximize profit.
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          +body: "Do you think the shareholders are active in problem solving? Workers include basically everyone but the shareholders. The tech guys, the executives, the managers."
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          +body: "Read the economy and class structure of german fascism if you want a detailed explanation for “scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds”"
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          +body: """
            > And yes, the only pro-Western nation ever falling into a serious Food-Crisis was… Haiti.\n
            \n
            Read Late Victorian Holocausts if you want to be less wrong.\n
            \n
            > Well, actually I am sharing “Wikipedia Propaganda” but if you want to call Wikipedia Nazi-Propaganda…\n
            \n
            The holodomor was originally fabricated by a hearst press associate at a time when Mr Hearst and the third Reich were openly collaborating on spreading nazi propaganda in the US. The famine was bad but the myth that it was a genocide needs to die as it is literally nazi propaganda and was used as a justification for collaborating with the holocaust in Eastern Europe\n
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            This is in fact the mainstream academic position. You may look to Conquest, Davies, and Wheatcroft, who are genuinely anticommunist historians, for their analysis (they all say it wasn’t a genocide)
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            > Because the fraction of the current world that reads every day and learns every day is extremely small.\n
            \n
            Socialist countries are famous for literacy and education drives\n
            \n
            > Again, like I said before, how many people around you come back from work and want to read technical books and watch courses instead of chilling, or hanging out with friends? I have two friends who are nut jobs like me and work all the time. EVERYONE else is lazy and just wants to have fun after work, and that’s in my circle. This spans over decades in the different jobs and sectors I worked at, in different countries. Do you have a different experience around you? I have trouble convincing people to read for 30 minutes every day.\n
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            I dont think it is reasonable to assume humans will act the same way in all conditions. I know people who just slack off, and its generally because there is no incentive not to do the bare minimum when you are alienated from your labor
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            Better to have them making the decision than capitalists, who make more money for paying employees less\n
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            Also who says half of them have to be fired? Can’t everyone just work less?
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            Your only question is “what am I missing” and the answer is an economics education.\n
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            But to address your “concerns” you’re operating on the mindset of maximizing profit to compete against other firms maximizing profit, which is only a problem under capitalism (until you reach the monopoly stage)
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            > Late Victorian Age\n
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            It is literally a book about western liberal democracies committing genocide, including through intentionally creating famines.\n
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            > Oh, and you claim the Holodomor didn’t happen? Well, let me guess, Stalin also didn’t got 30 million sowiet people killed?\n
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            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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            I will repeat:\n
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            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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            > Maybe you’ll change your mind one day and understand why the world we live in is the way we live in.\n
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            This from the person who is spouting econ 101 nonsense.
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            > But to summarize. You basically want to wreck the current system on the basis that everyone will be diligent, reading all the time, just for the “greater good”, more so than their own profit.\n
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            No, that’s a strawman. People won’t all be diligent. But they will be more productive in general when they are not alienated from their labor. This has been proven with a bunch of economic data on socialist countries and data on cooperatives even within a capitalist environment.\n
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            > And btw, about the “bare minimum”. No one has a reason to not do the bare minimum as they don’t get fired (consequences). There will always be the lazy guy who does the bare minimum, and everyone will get lazier because they’ll get jealous with zero consequences.\n
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            You’re just literally describing capitalism and being like, what about this problem under socialism? The consequences are youre not contributing. Do you think everyone is suddenly going to be less motivated when they’re actually able to realize the product of their labor, instead of having a parasite on top taking it?
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            Thats it interesting scenario, but why are you assuming that there is a significant segment that won’t want to learn, especially when they’re no longer alienated from their labor? And why are you assuming that the total laborers will increase with new technology, when you can retrain existing workers?\n
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            I dont think your scenario is realistic, it kinda reads as really misanthropic
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            No, overthrowing capitalism and beginning a transition to a more rational economic system increases your life expectancy. You can literally look up graphs.\n
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            [statista.com/…/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041395/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/)
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          +body: "Yes. All of those countries had more civil rights and longer life expectancy after the revolution"
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            See you’re still trapped within the logic of capitalism which maximizes profits and expansion over other concerns.\n
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            > So, assuming we want to keep everyone (including useless people who’d rather have beer instead of reading a book to learn the new stuff), the income of everyone will just go down over time. Eventually, with no one getting fire there won’t be enough money to go around to feed them. What am I missing here?\n
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            These are all massive assumptions
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            Unfortunately in the case of econ 101, you are taught that 2+2=5 most modern econ is neoclassical, which means operating on pre-marx economics and just ignoring marxist critiques of the political economy.\n
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            > and money falls from the sky, and everyone being lazy leads to growth, I’ll ask them to justify.\n
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            Thats a mighty strawman you invented. Workers are going to do the bare minimum to not get fired when it literally doesn’t matter how much they work, their income will be the same. When workers are invested in an organization, they do more work.
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          +body: "THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves."
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            Literally sharing nazi propaganda from Hearst press lol\n
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            Anyway, capitalism is known for never having famines or economic crises, especially not cyclical ones
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            You literally only have one question, the rest of it is opining.\n
            \n
            You’re assuming a wage labor model and that people working twice as efficiently and at half intensity would result in decreased production.\n
            \n
            1. wage labor models aren’t universal\n
            2. there is no reasoning stated for why production would go down\n
            \n
            You’re assuming people would have to be fired to maintain competitive growth. This is based on the logic of firms competing to capture market share. There isn’t really a rational reason for this to need to happen under systems were the point is to accommodate human need, not to maximize profit.
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          +body: "Do you think the shareholders are active in problem solving? Workers include basically everyone but the shareholders. The tech guys, the executives, the managers."
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          +body: "Read the economy and class structure of german fascism if you want a detailed explanation for “scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds”"
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            > And yes, the only pro-Western nation ever falling into a serious Food-Crisis was… Haiti.\n
            \n
            Read Late Victorian Holocausts if you want to be less wrong.\n
            \n
            > Well, actually I am sharing “Wikipedia Propaganda” but if you want to call Wikipedia Nazi-Propaganda…\n
            \n
            The holodomor was originally fabricated by a hearst press associate at a time when Mr Hearst and the third Reich were openly collaborating on spreading nazi propaganda in the US. The famine was bad but the myth that it was a genocide needs to die as it is literally nazi propaganda and was used as a justification for collaborating with the holocaust in Eastern Europe\n
            \n
            This is in fact the mainstream academic position. You may look to Conquest, Davies, and Wheatcroft, who are genuinely anticommunist historians, for their analysis (they all say it wasn’t a genocide)
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            > Because the fraction of the current world that reads every day and learns every day is extremely small.\n
            \n
            Socialist countries are famous for literacy and education drives\n
            \n
            > Again, like I said before, how many people around you come back from work and want to read technical books and watch courses instead of chilling, or hanging out with friends? I have two friends who are nut jobs like me and work all the time. EVERYONE else is lazy and just wants to have fun after work, and that’s in my circle. This spans over decades in the different jobs and sectors I worked at, in different countries. Do you have a different experience around you? I have trouble convincing people to read for 30 minutes every day.\n
            \n
            I dont think it is reasonable to assume humans will act the same way in all conditions. I know people who just slack off, and its generally because there is no incentive not to do the bare minimum when you are alienated from your labor
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            Better to have them making the decision than capitalists, who make more money for paying employees less\n
            \n
            Also who says half of them have to be fired? Can’t everyone just work less?
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            Your only question is “what am I missing” and the answer is an economics education.\n
            \n
            But to address your “concerns” you’re operating on the mindset of maximizing profit to compete against other firms maximizing profit, which is only a problem under capitalism (until you reach the monopoly stage)
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            > Late Victorian Age\n
            \n
            It is literally a book about western liberal democracies committing genocide, including through intentionally creating famines.\n
            \n
            > Oh, and you claim the Holodomor didn’t happen? Well, let me guess, Stalin also didn’t got 30 million sowiet people killed?\n
            \n
            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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          +body: "Read “riding the wave” fo learn about how Scandinavian countries are beneficiaries of the imperialist system"
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            > Maybe you’ll change your mind one day and understand why the world we live in is the way we live in.\n
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            This from the person who is spouting econ 101 nonsense.
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      I will repeat:\n
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      Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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            > But to summarize. You basically want to wreck the current system on the basis that everyone will be diligent, reading all the time, just for the “greater good”, more so than their own profit.\n
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            No, that’s a strawman. People won’t all be diligent. But they will be more productive in general when they are not alienated from their labor. This has been proven with a bunch of economic data on socialist countries and data on cooperatives even within a capitalist environment.\n
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            You’re just literally describing capitalism and being like, what about this problem under socialism? The consequences are youre not contributing. Do you think everyone is suddenly going to be less motivated when they’re actually able to realize the product of their labor, instead of having a parasite on top taking it?
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            Thats it interesting scenario, but why are you assuming that there is a significant segment that won’t want to learn, especially when they’re no longer alienated from their labor? And why are you assuming that the total laborers will increase with new technology, when you can retrain existing workers?\n
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            No, overthrowing capitalism and beginning a transition to a more rational economic system increases your life expectancy. You can literally look up graphs.\n
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            [statista.com/…/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041395/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/)
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          +body: "Yes. All of those countries had more civil rights and longer life expectancy after the revolution"
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            See you’re still trapped within the logic of capitalism which maximizes profits and expansion over other concerns.\n
            \n
            > So, assuming we want to keep everyone (including useless people who’d rather have beer instead of reading a book to learn the new stuff), the income of everyone will just go down over time. Eventually, with no one getting fire there won’t be enough money to go around to feed them. What am I missing here?\n
            \n
            These are all massive assumptions
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            Unfortunately in the case of econ 101, you are taught that 2+2=5 most modern econ is neoclassical, which means operating on pre-marx economics and just ignoring marxist critiques of the political economy.\n
            \n
            > and money falls from the sky, and everyone being lazy leads to growth, I’ll ask them to justify.\n
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            Thats a mighty strawman you invented. Workers are going to do the bare minimum to not get fired when it literally doesn’t matter how much they work, their income will be the same. When workers are invested in an organization, they do more work.
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          +body: "THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves."
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            Literally sharing nazi propaganda from Hearst press lol\n
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            Anyway, capitalism is known for never having famines or economic crises, especially not cyclical ones
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            You literally only have one question, the rest of it is opining.\n
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            You’re assuming a wage labor model and that people working twice as efficiently and at half intensity would result in decreased production.\n
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            1. wage labor models aren’t universal\n
            2. there is no reasoning stated for why production would go down\n
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            You’re assuming people would have to be fired to maintain competitive growth. This is based on the logic of firms competing to capture market share. There isn’t really a rational reason for this to need to happen under systems were the point is to accommodate human need, not to maximize profit.
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          +body: "Do you think the shareholders are active in problem solving? Workers include basically everyone but the shareholders. The tech guys, the executives, the managers."
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          +body: "Read the economy and class structure of german fascism if you want a detailed explanation for “scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds”"
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          +body: """
            > And yes, the only pro-Western nation ever falling into a serious Food-Crisis was… Haiti.\n
            \n
            Read Late Victorian Holocausts if you want to be less wrong.\n
            \n
            > Well, actually I am sharing “Wikipedia Propaganda” but if you want to call Wikipedia Nazi-Propaganda…\n
            \n
            The holodomor was originally fabricated by a hearst press associate at a time when Mr Hearst and the third Reich were openly collaborating on spreading nazi propaganda in the US. The famine was bad but the myth that it was a genocide needs to die as it is literally nazi propaganda and was used as a justification for collaborating with the holocaust in Eastern Europe\n
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            This is in fact the mainstream academic position. You may look to Conquest, Davies, and Wheatcroft, who are genuinely anticommunist historians, for their analysis (they all say it wasn’t a genocide)
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            > Because the fraction of the current world that reads every day and learns every day is extremely small.\n
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            Socialist countries are famous for literacy and education drives\n
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            > Again, like I said before, how many people around you come back from work and want to read technical books and watch courses instead of chilling, or hanging out with friends? I have two friends who are nut jobs like me and work all the time. EVERYONE else is lazy and just wants to have fun after work, and that’s in my circle. This spans over decades in the different jobs and sectors I worked at, in different countries. Do you have a different experience around you? I have trouble convincing people to read for 30 minutes every day.\n
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            I dont think it is reasonable to assume humans will act the same way in all conditions. I know people who just slack off, and its generally because there is no incentive not to do the bare minimum when you are alienated from your labor
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            Better to have them making the decision than capitalists, who make more money for paying employees less\n
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            Also who says half of them have to be fired? Can’t everyone just work less?
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            Your only question is “what am I missing” and the answer is an economics education.\n
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            But to address your “concerns” you’re operating on the mindset of maximizing profit to compete against other firms maximizing profit, which is only a problem under capitalism (until you reach the monopoly stage)
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            > Late Victorian Age\n
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            It is literally a book about western liberal democracies committing genocide, including through intentionally creating famines.\n
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            > Oh, and you claim the Holodomor didn’t happen? Well, let me guess, Stalin also didn’t got 30 million sowiet people killed?\n
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            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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          +body: "Read “riding the wave” fo learn about how Scandinavian countries are beneficiaries of the imperialist system"
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            > Maybe you’ll change your mind one day and understand why the world we live in is the way we live in.\n
            \n
            This from the person who is spouting econ 101 nonsense.
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            > But to summarize. You basically want to wreck the current system on the basis that everyone will be diligent, reading all the time, just for the “greater good”, more so than their own profit.\n
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            No, that’s a strawman. People won’t all be diligent. But they will be more productive in general when they are not alienated from their labor. This has been proven with a bunch of economic data on socialist countries and data on cooperatives even within a capitalist environment.\n
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            > And btw, about the “bare minimum”. No one has a reason to not do the bare minimum as they don’t get fired (consequences). There will always be the lazy guy who does the bare minimum, and everyone will get lazier because they’ll get jealous with zero consequences.\n
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            You’re just literally describing capitalism and being like, what about this problem under socialism? The consequences are youre not contributing. Do you think everyone is suddenly going to be less motivated when they’re actually able to realize the product of their labor, instead of having a parasite on top taking it?
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            Thats it interesting scenario, but why are you assuming that there is a significant segment that won’t want to learn, especially when they’re no longer alienated from their labor? And why are you assuming that the total laborers will increase with new technology, when you can retrain existing workers?\n
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            I dont think your scenario is realistic, it kinda reads as really misanthropic
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            No, overthrowing capitalism and beginning a transition to a more rational economic system increases your life expectancy. You can literally look up graphs.\n
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            [statista.com/…/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041395/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/)
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          +body: "Yes. All of those countries had more civil rights and longer life expectancy after the revolution"
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            See you’re still trapped within the logic of capitalism which maximizes profits and expansion over other concerns.\n
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            > So, assuming we want to keep everyone (including useless people who’d rather have beer instead of reading a book to learn the new stuff), the income of everyone will just go down over time. Eventually, with no one getting fire there won’t be enough money to go around to feed them. What am I missing here?\n
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            These are all massive assumptions
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            Unfortunately in the case of econ 101, you are taught that 2+2=5 most modern econ is neoclassical, which means operating on pre-marx economics and just ignoring marxist critiques of the political economy.\n
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            > and money falls from the sky, and everyone being lazy leads to growth, I’ll ask them to justify.\n
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            Thats a mighty strawman you invented. Workers are going to do the bare minimum to not get fired when it literally doesn’t matter how much they work, their income will be the same. When workers are invested in an organization, they do more work.
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          +body: "THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves."
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            Literally sharing nazi propaganda from Hearst press lol\n
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            Anyway, capitalism is known for never having famines or economic crises, especially not cyclical ones
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            You literally only have one question, the rest of it is opining.\n
            \n
            You’re assuming a wage labor model and that people working twice as efficiently and at half intensity would result in decreased production.\n
            \n
            1. wage labor models aren’t universal\n
            2. there is no reasoning stated for why production would go down\n
            \n
            You’re assuming people would have to be fired to maintain competitive growth. This is based on the logic of firms competing to capture market share. There isn’t really a rational reason for this to need to happen under systems were the point is to accommodate human need, not to maximize profit.
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          +body: "Do you think the shareholders are active in problem solving? Workers include basically everyone but the shareholders. The tech guys, the executives, the managers."
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          +body: "Read the economy and class structure of german fascism if you want a detailed explanation for “scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds”"
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            > And yes, the only pro-Western nation ever falling into a serious Food-Crisis was… Haiti.\n
            \n
            Read Late Victorian Holocausts if you want to be less wrong.\n
            \n
            > Well, actually I am sharing “Wikipedia Propaganda” but if you want to call Wikipedia Nazi-Propaganda…\n
            \n
            The holodomor was originally fabricated by a hearst press associate at a time when Mr Hearst and the third Reich were openly collaborating on spreading nazi propaganda in the US. The famine was bad but the myth that it was a genocide needs to die as it is literally nazi propaganda and was used as a justification for collaborating with the holocaust in Eastern Europe\n
            \n
            This is in fact the mainstream academic position. You may look to Conquest, Davies, and Wheatcroft, who are genuinely anticommunist historians, for their analysis (they all say it wasn’t a genocide)
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            > Because the fraction of the current world that reads every day and learns every day is extremely small.\n
            \n
            Socialist countries are famous for literacy and education drives\n
            \n
            > Again, like I said before, how many people around you come back from work and want to read technical books and watch courses instead of chilling, or hanging out with friends? I have two friends who are nut jobs like me and work all the time. EVERYONE else is lazy and just wants to have fun after work, and that’s in my circle. This spans over decades in the different jobs and sectors I worked at, in different countries. Do you have a different experience around you? I have trouble convincing people to read for 30 minutes every day.\n
            \n
            I dont think it is reasonable to assume humans will act the same way in all conditions. I know people who just slack off, and its generally because there is no incentive not to do the bare minimum when you are alienated from your labor
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            Better to have them making the decision than capitalists, who make more money for paying employees less\n
            \n
            Also who says half of them have to be fired? Can’t everyone just work less?
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            Your only question is “what am I missing” and the answer is an economics education.\n
            \n
            But to address your “concerns” you’re operating on the mindset of maximizing profit to compete against other firms maximizing profit, which is only a problem under capitalism (until you reach the monopoly stage)
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            > Late Victorian Age\n
            \n
            It is literally a book about western liberal democracies committing genocide, including through intentionally creating famines.\n
            \n
            > Oh, and you claim the Holodomor didn’t happen? Well, let me guess, Stalin also didn’t got 30 million sowiet people killed?\n
            \n
            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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          +body: "Read “riding the wave” fo learn about how Scandinavian countries are beneficiaries of the imperialist system"
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            > Maybe you’ll change your mind one day and understand why the world we live in is the way we live in.\n
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            This from the person who is spouting econ 101 nonsense.
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            > But to summarize. You basically want to wreck the current system on the basis that everyone will be diligent, reading all the time, just for the “greater good”, more so than their own profit.\n
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            Thats it interesting scenario, but why are you assuming that there is a significant segment that won’t want to learn, especially when they’re no longer alienated from their labor? And why are you assuming that the total laborers will increase with new technology, when you can retrain existing workers?\n
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            No, overthrowing capitalism and beginning a transition to a more rational economic system increases your life expectancy. You can literally look up graphs.\n
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            [statista.com/…/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041395/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/)
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          +body: "Yes. All of those countries had more civil rights and longer life expectancy after the revolution"
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            See you’re still trapped within the logic of capitalism which maximizes profits and expansion over other concerns.\n
            \n
            > So, assuming we want to keep everyone (including useless people who’d rather have beer instead of reading a book to learn the new stuff), the income of everyone will just go down over time. Eventually, with no one getting fire there won’t be enough money to go around to feed them. What am I missing here?\n
            \n
            These are all massive assumptions
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            Unfortunately in the case of econ 101, you are taught that 2+2=5 most modern econ is neoclassical, which means operating on pre-marx economics and just ignoring marxist critiques of the political economy.\n
            \n
            > and money falls from the sky, and everyone being lazy leads to growth, I’ll ask them to justify.\n
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            Thats a mighty strawman you invented. Workers are going to do the bare minimum to not get fired when it literally doesn’t matter how much they work, their income will be the same. When workers are invested in an organization, they do more work.
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          +body: "THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves."
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            Literally sharing nazi propaganda from Hearst press lol\n
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            Anyway, capitalism is known for never having famines or economic crises, especially not cyclical ones
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            You literally only have one question, the rest of it is opining.\n
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            You’re assuming a wage labor model and that people working twice as efficiently and at half intensity would result in decreased production.\n
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            1. wage labor models aren’t universal\n
            2. there is no reasoning stated for why production would go down\n
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            You’re assuming people would have to be fired to maintain competitive growth. This is based on the logic of firms competing to capture market share. There isn’t really a rational reason for this to need to happen under systems were the point is to accommodate human need, not to maximize profit.
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          +body: "Do you think the shareholders are active in problem solving? Workers include basically everyone but the shareholders. The tech guys, the executives, the managers."
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          +body: "Read the economy and class structure of german fascism if you want a detailed explanation for “scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds”"
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          +body: """
            > And yes, the only pro-Western nation ever falling into a serious Food-Crisis was… Haiti.\n
            \n
            Read Late Victorian Holocausts if you want to be less wrong.\n
            \n
            > Well, actually I am sharing “Wikipedia Propaganda” but if you want to call Wikipedia Nazi-Propaganda…\n
            \n
            The holodomor was originally fabricated by a hearst press associate at a time when Mr Hearst and the third Reich were openly collaborating on spreading nazi propaganda in the US. The famine was bad but the myth that it was a genocide needs to die as it is literally nazi propaganda and was used as a justification for collaborating with the holocaust in Eastern Europe\n
            \n
            This is in fact the mainstream academic position. You may look to Conquest, Davies, and Wheatcroft, who are genuinely anticommunist historians, for their analysis (they all say it wasn’t a genocide)
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            > Because the fraction of the current world that reads every day and learns every day is extremely small.\n
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            Socialist countries are famous for literacy and education drives\n
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            > Again, like I said before, how many people around you come back from work and want to read technical books and watch courses instead of chilling, or hanging out with friends? I have two friends who are nut jobs like me and work all the time. EVERYONE else is lazy and just wants to have fun after work, and that’s in my circle. This spans over decades in the different jobs and sectors I worked at, in different countries. Do you have a different experience around you? I have trouble convincing people to read for 30 minutes every day.\n
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            Better to have them making the decision than capitalists, who make more money for paying employees less\n
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            Also who says half of them have to be fired? Can’t everyone just work less?
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            Your only question is “what am I missing” and the answer is an economics education.\n
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            But to address your “concerns” you’re operating on the mindset of maximizing profit to compete against other firms maximizing profit, which is only a problem under capitalism (until you reach the monopoly stage)
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            > Late Victorian Age\n
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            It is literally a book about western liberal democracies committing genocide, including through intentionally creating famines.\n
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            > Oh, and you claim the Holodomor didn’t happen? Well, let me guess, Stalin also didn’t got 30 million sowiet people killed?\n
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            > Maybe you’ll change your mind one day and understand why the world we live in is the way we live in.\n
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            This from the person who is spouting econ 101 nonsense.
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            > But to summarize. You basically want to wreck the current system on the basis that everyone will be diligent, reading all the time, just for the “greater good”, more so than their own profit.\n
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            No, that’s a strawman. People won’t all be diligent. But they will be more productive in general when they are not alienated from their labor. This has been proven with a bunch of economic data on socialist countries and data on cooperatives even within a capitalist environment.\n
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            > And btw, about the “bare minimum”. No one has a reason to not do the bare minimum as they don’t get fired (consequences). There will always be the lazy guy who does the bare minimum, and everyone will get lazier because they’ll get jealous with zero consequences.\n
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            You’re just literally describing capitalism and being like, what about this problem under socialism? The consequences are youre not contributing. Do you think everyone is suddenly going to be less motivated when they’re actually able to realize the product of their labor, instead of having a parasite on top taking it?
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            Thats it interesting scenario, but why are you assuming that there is a significant segment that won’t want to learn, especially when they’re no longer alienated from their labor? And why are you assuming that the total laborers will increase with new technology, when you can retrain existing workers?\n
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            I dont think your scenario is realistic, it kinda reads as really misanthropic
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            No, overthrowing capitalism and beginning a transition to a more rational economic system increases your life expectancy. You can literally look up graphs.\n
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            [statista.com/…/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041395/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/)
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          +body: "Yes. All of those countries had more civil rights and longer life expectancy after the revolution"
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            See you’re still trapped within the logic of capitalism which maximizes profits and expansion over other concerns.\n
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            > So, assuming we want to keep everyone (including useless people who’d rather have beer instead of reading a book to learn the new stuff), the income of everyone will just go down over time. Eventually, with no one getting fire there won’t be enough money to go around to feed them. What am I missing here?\n
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            These are all massive assumptions
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            Unfortunately in the case of econ 101, you are taught that 2+2=5 most modern econ is neoclassical, which means operating on pre-marx economics and just ignoring marxist critiques of the political economy.\n
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            > and money falls from the sky, and everyone being lazy leads to growth, I’ll ask them to justify.\n
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            Thats a mighty strawman you invented. Workers are going to do the bare minimum to not get fired when it literally doesn’t matter how much they work, their income will be the same. When workers are invested in an organization, they do more work.
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          +body: "THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves."
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            Literally sharing nazi propaganda from Hearst press lol\n
            \n
            Anyway, capitalism is known for never having famines or economic crises, especially not cyclical ones
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            You literally only have one question, the rest of it is opining.\n
            \n
            You’re assuming a wage labor model and that people working twice as efficiently and at half intensity would result in decreased production.\n
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            1. wage labor models aren’t universal\n
            2. there is no reasoning stated for why production would go down\n
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            You’re assuming people would have to be fired to maintain competitive growth. This is based on the logic of firms competing to capture market share. There isn’t really a rational reason for this to need to happen under systems were the point is to accommodate human need, not to maximize profit.
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          +body: "Do you think the shareholders are active in problem solving? Workers include basically everyone but the shareholders. The tech guys, the executives, the managers."
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          +body: "Read the economy and class structure of german fascism if you want a detailed explanation for “scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds”"
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          +body: """
            > And yes, the only pro-Western nation ever falling into a serious Food-Crisis was… Haiti.\n
            \n
            Read Late Victorian Holocausts if you want to be less wrong.\n
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            > Well, actually I am sharing “Wikipedia Propaganda” but if you want to call Wikipedia Nazi-Propaganda…\n
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            The holodomor was originally fabricated by a hearst press associate at a time when Mr Hearst and the third Reich were openly collaborating on spreading nazi propaganda in the US. The famine was bad but the myth that it was a genocide needs to die as it is literally nazi propaganda and was used as a justification for collaborating with the holocaust in Eastern Europe\n
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            This is in fact the mainstream academic position. You may look to Conquest, Davies, and Wheatcroft, who are genuinely anticommunist historians, for their analysis (they all say it wasn’t a genocide)
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            > Because the fraction of the current world that reads every day and learns every day is extremely small.\n
            \n
            Socialist countries are famous for literacy and education drives\n
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            > Again, like I said before, how many people around you come back from work and want to read technical books and watch courses instead of chilling, or hanging out with friends? I have two friends who are nut jobs like me and work all the time. EVERYONE else is lazy and just wants to have fun after work, and that’s in my circle. This spans over decades in the different jobs and sectors I worked at, in different countries. Do you have a different experience around you? I have trouble convincing people to read for 30 minutes every day.\n
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            I dont think it is reasonable to assume humans will act the same way in all conditions. I know people who just slack off, and its generally because there is no incentive not to do the bare minimum when you are alienated from your labor
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            Better to have them making the decision than capitalists, who make more money for paying employees less\n
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            Also who says half of them have to be fired? Can’t everyone just work less?
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            Your only question is “what am I missing” and the answer is an economics education.\n
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            But to address your “concerns” you’re operating on the mindset of maximizing profit to compete against other firms maximizing profit, which is only a problem under capitalism (until you reach the monopoly stage)
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            > Late Victorian Age\n
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            It is literally a book about western liberal democracies committing genocide, including through intentionally creating famines.\n
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            > Maybe you’ll change your mind one day and understand why the world we live in is the way we live in.\n
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            This from the person who is spouting econ 101 nonsense.
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            > But to summarize. You basically want to wreck the current system on the basis that everyone will be diligent, reading all the time, just for the “greater good”, more so than their own profit.\n
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            Thats it interesting scenario, but why are you assuming that there is a significant segment that won’t want to learn, especially when they’re no longer alienated from their labor? And why are you assuming that the total laborers will increase with new technology, when you can retrain existing workers?\n
            \n
            I dont think your scenario is realistic, it kinda reads as really misanthropic
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            No, overthrowing capitalism and beginning a transition to a more rational economic system increases your life expectancy. You can literally look up graphs.\n
            \n
            [statista.com/…/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041395/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/)
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          +body: "Yes. All of those countries had more civil rights and longer life expectancy after the revolution"
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            See you’re still trapped within the logic of capitalism which maximizes profits and expansion over other concerns.\n
            \n
            > So, assuming we want to keep everyone (including useless people who’d rather have beer instead of reading a book to learn the new stuff), the income of everyone will just go down over time. Eventually, with no one getting fire there won’t be enough money to go around to feed them. What am I missing here?\n
            \n
            These are all massive assumptions
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            Unfortunately in the case of econ 101, you are taught that 2+2=5 most modern econ is neoclassical, which means operating on pre-marx economics and just ignoring marxist critiques of the political economy.\n
            \n
            > and money falls from the sky, and everyone being lazy leads to growth, I’ll ask them to justify.\n
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            Thats a mighty strawman you invented. Workers are going to do the bare minimum to not get fired when it literally doesn’t matter how much they work, their income will be the same. When workers are invested in an organization, they do more work.
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          +body: "THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves."
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            Literally sharing nazi propaganda from Hearst press lol\n
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            Anyway, capitalism is known for never having famines or economic crises, especially not cyclical ones
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            You literally only have one question, the rest of it is opining.\n
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            You’re assuming a wage labor model and that people working twice as efficiently and at half intensity would result in decreased production.\n
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            1. wage labor models aren’t universal\n
            2. there is no reasoning stated for why production would go down\n
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            You’re assuming people would have to be fired to maintain competitive growth. This is based on the logic of firms competing to capture market share. There isn’t really a rational reason for this to need to happen under systems were the point is to accommodate human need, not to maximize profit.
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          +body: "Do you think the shareholders are active in problem solving? Workers include basically everyone but the shareholders. The tech guys, the executives, the managers."
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          +body: "Read the economy and class structure of german fascism if you want a detailed explanation for “scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds”"
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            > And yes, the only pro-Western nation ever falling into a serious Food-Crisis was… Haiti.\n
            \n
            Read Late Victorian Holocausts if you want to be less wrong.\n
            \n
            > Well, actually I am sharing “Wikipedia Propaganda” but if you want to call Wikipedia Nazi-Propaganda…\n
            \n
            The holodomor was originally fabricated by a hearst press associate at a time when Mr Hearst and the third Reich were openly collaborating on spreading nazi propaganda in the US. The famine was bad but the myth that it was a genocide needs to die as it is literally nazi propaganda and was used as a justification for collaborating with the holocaust in Eastern Europe\n
            \n
            This is in fact the mainstream academic position. You may look to Conquest, Davies, and Wheatcroft, who are genuinely anticommunist historians, for their analysis (they all say it wasn’t a genocide)
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            > Because the fraction of the current world that reads every day and learns every day is extremely small.\n
            \n
            Socialist countries are famous for literacy and education drives\n
            \n
            > Again, like I said before, how many people around you come back from work and want to read technical books and watch courses instead of chilling, or hanging out with friends? I have two friends who are nut jobs like me and work all the time. EVERYONE else is lazy and just wants to have fun after work, and that’s in my circle. This spans over decades in the different jobs and sectors I worked at, in different countries. Do you have a different experience around you? I have trouble convincing people to read for 30 minutes every day.\n
            \n
            I dont think it is reasonable to assume humans will act the same way in all conditions. I know people who just slack off, and its generally because there is no incentive not to do the bare minimum when you are alienated from your labor
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            Better to have them making the decision than capitalists, who make more money for paying employees less\n
            \n
            Also who says half of them have to be fired? Can’t everyone just work less?
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          -id: 77159
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            Your only question is “what am I missing” and the answer is an economics education.\n
            \n
            But to address your “concerns” you’re operating on the mindset of maximizing profit to compete against other firms maximizing profit, which is only a problem under capitalism (until you reach the monopoly stage)
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            > Late Victorian Age\n
            \n
            It is literally a book about western liberal democracies committing genocide, including through intentionally creating famines.\n
            \n
            > Oh, and you claim the Holodomor didn’t happen? Well, let me guess, Stalin also didn’t got 30 million sowiet people killed?\n
            \n
            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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          +body: "Read “riding the wave” fo learn about how Scandinavian countries are beneficiaries of the imperialist system"
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          +body: """
            > Maybe you’ll change your mind one day and understand why the world we live in is the way we live in.\n
            \n
            This from the person who is spouting econ 101 nonsense.
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      I will repeat:\n
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            > But to summarize. You basically want to wreck the current system on the basis that everyone will be diligent, reading all the time, just for the “greater good”, more so than their own profit.\n
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            No, that’s a strawman. People won’t all be diligent. But they will be more productive in general when they are not alienated from their labor. This has been proven with a bunch of economic data on socialist countries and data on cooperatives even within a capitalist environment.\n
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            You’re just literally describing capitalism and being like, what about this problem under socialism? The consequences are youre not contributing. Do you think everyone is suddenly going to be less motivated when they’re actually able to realize the product of their labor, instead of having a parasite on top taking it?
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            Thats it interesting scenario, but why are you assuming that there is a significant segment that won’t want to learn, especially when they’re no longer alienated from their labor? And why are you assuming that the total laborers will increase with new technology, when you can retrain existing workers?\n
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            No, overthrowing capitalism and beginning a transition to a more rational economic system increases your life expectancy. You can literally look up graphs.\n
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            [statista.com/…/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041395/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/)
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          +body: "Yes. All of those countries had more civil rights and longer life expectancy after the revolution"
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            See you’re still trapped within the logic of capitalism which maximizes profits and expansion over other concerns.\n
            \n
            > So, assuming we want to keep everyone (including useless people who’d rather have beer instead of reading a book to learn the new stuff), the income of everyone will just go down over time. Eventually, with no one getting fire there won’t be enough money to go around to feed them. What am I missing here?\n
            \n
            These are all massive assumptions
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            Unfortunately in the case of econ 101, you are taught that 2+2=5 most modern econ is neoclassical, which means operating on pre-marx economics and just ignoring marxist critiques of the political economy.\n
            \n
            > and money falls from the sky, and everyone being lazy leads to growth, I’ll ask them to justify.\n
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            Thats a mighty strawman you invented. Workers are going to do the bare minimum to not get fired when it literally doesn’t matter how much they work, their income will be the same. When workers are invested in an organization, they do more work.
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          +body: "THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves."
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            Literally sharing nazi propaganda from Hearst press lol\n
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            Anyway, capitalism is known for never having famines or economic crises, especially not cyclical ones
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            You literally only have one question, the rest of it is opining.\n
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            You’re assuming a wage labor model and that people working twice as efficiently and at half intensity would result in decreased production.\n
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            1. wage labor models aren’t universal\n
            2. there is no reasoning stated for why production would go down\n
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            You’re assuming people would have to be fired to maintain competitive growth. This is based on the logic of firms competing to capture market share. There isn’t really a rational reason for this to need to happen under systems were the point is to accommodate human need, not to maximize profit.
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          +body: "Do you think the shareholders are active in problem solving? Workers include basically everyone but the shareholders. The tech guys, the executives, the managers."
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          +body: "Read the economy and class structure of german fascism if you want a detailed explanation for “scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds”"
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          +body: """
            > And yes, the only pro-Western nation ever falling into a serious Food-Crisis was… Haiti.\n
            \n
            Read Late Victorian Holocausts if you want to be less wrong.\n
            \n
            > Well, actually I am sharing “Wikipedia Propaganda” but if you want to call Wikipedia Nazi-Propaganda…\n
            \n
            The holodomor was originally fabricated by a hearst press associate at a time when Mr Hearst and the third Reich were openly collaborating on spreading nazi propaganda in the US. The famine was bad but the myth that it was a genocide needs to die as it is literally nazi propaganda and was used as a justification for collaborating with the holocaust in Eastern Europe\n
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            This is in fact the mainstream academic position. You may look to Conquest, Davies, and Wheatcroft, who are genuinely anticommunist historians, for their analysis (they all say it wasn’t a genocide)
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            > Because the fraction of the current world that reads every day and learns every day is extremely small.\n
            \n
            Socialist countries are famous for literacy and education drives\n
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            > Again, like I said before, how many people around you come back from work and want to read technical books and watch courses instead of chilling, or hanging out with friends? I have two friends who are nut jobs like me and work all the time. EVERYONE else is lazy and just wants to have fun after work, and that’s in my circle. This spans over decades in the different jobs and sectors I worked at, in different countries. Do you have a different experience around you? I have trouble convincing people to read for 30 minutes every day.\n
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            Better to have them making the decision than capitalists, who make more money for paying employees less\n
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            Also who says half of them have to be fired? Can’t everyone just work less?
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            Your only question is “what am I missing” and the answer is an economics education.\n
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            But to address your “concerns” you’re operating on the mindset of maximizing profit to compete against other firms maximizing profit, which is only a problem under capitalism (until you reach the monopoly stage)
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            > Late Victorian Age\n
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            It is literally a book about western liberal democracies committing genocide, including through intentionally creating famines.\n
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            > Oh, and you claim the Holodomor didn’t happen? Well, let me guess, Stalin also didn’t got 30 million sowiet people killed?\n
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            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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          +body: "Read “riding the wave” fo learn about how Scandinavian countries are beneficiaries of the imperialist system"
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      > Maybe you’ll change your mind one day and understand why the world we live in is the way we live in.\n
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            > But to summarize. You basically want to wreck the current system on the basis that everyone will be diligent, reading all the time, just for the “greater good”, more so than their own profit.\n
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            No, that’s a strawman. People won’t all be diligent. But they will be more productive in general when they are not alienated from their labor. This has been proven with a bunch of economic data on socialist countries and data on cooperatives even within a capitalist environment.\n
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            > And btw, about the “bare minimum”. No one has a reason to not do the bare minimum as they don’t get fired (consequences). There will always be the lazy guy who does the bare minimum, and everyone will get lazier because they’ll get jealous with zero consequences.\n
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            You’re just literally describing capitalism and being like, what about this problem under socialism? The consequences are youre not contributing. Do you think everyone is suddenly going to be less motivated when they’re actually able to realize the product of their labor, instead of having a parasite on top taking it?
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            Thats it interesting scenario, but why are you assuming that there is a significant segment that won’t want to learn, especially when they’re no longer alienated from their labor? And why are you assuming that the total laborers will increase with new technology, when you can retrain existing workers?\n
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            I dont think your scenario is realistic, it kinda reads as really misanthropic
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            No, overthrowing capitalism and beginning a transition to a more rational economic system increases your life expectancy. You can literally look up graphs.\n
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            [statista.com/…/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041395/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/)
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          +body: "Yes. All of those countries had more civil rights and longer life expectancy after the revolution"
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            See you’re still trapped within the logic of capitalism which maximizes profits and expansion over other concerns.\n
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            > So, assuming we want to keep everyone (including useless people who’d rather have beer instead of reading a book to learn the new stuff), the income of everyone will just go down over time. Eventually, with no one getting fire there won’t be enough money to go around to feed them. What am I missing here?\n
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            These are all massive assumptions
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            Unfortunately in the case of econ 101, you are taught that 2+2=5 most modern econ is neoclassical, which means operating on pre-marx economics and just ignoring marxist critiques of the political economy.\n
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            > and money falls from the sky, and everyone being lazy leads to growth, I’ll ask them to justify.\n
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            Thats a mighty strawman you invented. Workers are going to do the bare minimum to not get fired when it literally doesn’t matter how much they work, their income will be the same. When workers are invested in an organization, they do more work.
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          +body: "THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves."
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            Literally sharing nazi propaganda from Hearst press lol\n
            \n
            Anyway, capitalism is known for never having famines or economic crises, especially not cyclical ones
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            You literally only have one question, the rest of it is opining.\n
            \n
            You’re assuming a wage labor model and that people working twice as efficiently and at half intensity would result in decreased production.\n
            \n
            1. wage labor models aren’t universal\n
            2. there is no reasoning stated for why production would go down\n
            \n
            You’re assuming people would have to be fired to maintain competitive growth. This is based on the logic of firms competing to capture market share. There isn’t really a rational reason for this to need to happen under systems were the point is to accommodate human need, not to maximize profit.
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          +body: "Do you think the shareholders are active in problem solving? Workers include basically everyone but the shareholders. The tech guys, the executives, the managers."
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          +body: "Read the economy and class structure of german fascism if you want a detailed explanation for “scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds”"
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            > And yes, the only pro-Western nation ever falling into a serious Food-Crisis was… Haiti.\n
            \n
            Read Late Victorian Holocausts if you want to be less wrong.\n
            \n
            > Well, actually I am sharing “Wikipedia Propaganda” but if you want to call Wikipedia Nazi-Propaganda…\n
            \n
            The holodomor was originally fabricated by a hearst press associate at a time when Mr Hearst and the third Reich were openly collaborating on spreading nazi propaganda in the US. The famine was bad but the myth that it was a genocide needs to die as it is literally nazi propaganda and was used as a justification for collaborating with the holocaust in Eastern Europe\n
            \n
            This is in fact the mainstream academic position. You may look to Conquest, Davies, and Wheatcroft, who are genuinely anticommunist historians, for their analysis (they all say it wasn’t a genocide)
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            > Because the fraction of the current world that reads every day and learns every day is extremely small.\n
            \n
            Socialist countries are famous for literacy and education drives\n
            \n
            > Again, like I said before, how many people around you come back from work and want to read technical books and watch courses instead of chilling, or hanging out with friends? I have two friends who are nut jobs like me and work all the time. EVERYONE else is lazy and just wants to have fun after work, and that’s in my circle. This spans over decades in the different jobs and sectors I worked at, in different countries. Do you have a different experience around you? I have trouble convincing people to read for 30 minutes every day.\n
            \n
            I dont think it is reasonable to assume humans will act the same way in all conditions. I know people who just slack off, and its generally because there is no incentive not to do the bare minimum when you are alienated from your labor
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            Better to have them making the decision than capitalists, who make more money for paying employees less\n
            \n
            Also who says half of them have to be fired? Can’t everyone just work less?
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            Your only question is “what am I missing” and the answer is an economics education.\n
            \n
            But to address your “concerns” you’re operating on the mindset of maximizing profit to compete against other firms maximizing profit, which is only a problem under capitalism (until you reach the monopoly stage)
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            > Late Victorian Age\n
            \n
            It is literally a book about western liberal democracies committing genocide, including through intentionally creating famines.\n
            \n
            > Oh, and you claim the Holodomor didn’t happen? Well, let me guess, Stalin also didn’t got 30 million sowiet people killed?\n
            \n
            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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            > But to summarize. You basically want to wreck the current system on the basis that everyone will be diligent, reading all the time, just for the “greater good”, more so than their own profit.\n
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            You’re just literally describing capitalism and being like, what about this problem under socialism? The consequences are youre not contributing. Do you think everyone is suddenly going to be less motivated when they’re actually able to realize the product of their labor, instead of having a parasite on top taking it?
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            Thats it interesting scenario, but why are you assuming that there is a significant segment that won’t want to learn, especially when they’re no longer alienated from their labor? And why are you assuming that the total laborers will increase with new technology, when you can retrain existing workers?\n
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            No, overthrowing capitalism and beginning a transition to a more rational economic system increases your life expectancy. You can literally look up graphs.\n
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            [statista.com/…/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041395/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/)
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          +body: "Yes. All of those countries had more civil rights and longer life expectancy after the revolution"
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            See you’re still trapped within the logic of capitalism which maximizes profits and expansion over other concerns.\n
            \n
            > So, assuming we want to keep everyone (including useless people who’d rather have beer instead of reading a book to learn the new stuff), the income of everyone will just go down over time. Eventually, with no one getting fire there won’t be enough money to go around to feed them. What am I missing here?\n
            \n
            These are all massive assumptions
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            Unfortunately in the case of econ 101, you are taught that 2+2=5 most modern econ is neoclassical, which means operating on pre-marx economics and just ignoring marxist critiques of the political economy.\n
            \n
            > and money falls from the sky, and everyone being lazy leads to growth, I’ll ask them to justify.\n
            \n
            Thats a mighty strawman you invented. Workers are going to do the bare minimum to not get fired when it literally doesn’t matter how much they work, their income will be the same. When workers are invested in an organization, they do more work.
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          +body: "THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves."
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            Literally sharing nazi propaganda from Hearst press lol\n
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            Anyway, capitalism is known for never having famines or economic crises, especially not cyclical ones
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            You literally only have one question, the rest of it is opining.\n
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            You’re assuming a wage labor model and that people working twice as efficiently and at half intensity would result in decreased production.\n
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            1. wage labor models aren’t universal\n
            2. there is no reasoning stated for why production would go down\n
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            You’re assuming people would have to be fired to maintain competitive growth. This is based on the logic of firms competing to capture market share. There isn’t really a rational reason for this to need to happen under systems were the point is to accommodate human need, not to maximize profit.
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          +body: "Do you think the shareholders are active in problem solving? Workers include basically everyone but the shareholders. The tech guys, the executives, the managers."
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          +body: "Read the economy and class structure of german fascism if you want a detailed explanation for “scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds”"
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          +body: """
            > And yes, the only pro-Western nation ever falling into a serious Food-Crisis was… Haiti.\n
            \n
            Read Late Victorian Holocausts if you want to be less wrong.\n
            \n
            > Well, actually I am sharing “Wikipedia Propaganda” but if you want to call Wikipedia Nazi-Propaganda…\n
            \n
            The holodomor was originally fabricated by a hearst press associate at a time when Mr Hearst and the third Reich were openly collaborating on spreading nazi propaganda in the US. The famine was bad but the myth that it was a genocide needs to die as it is literally nazi propaganda and was used as a justification for collaborating with the holocaust in Eastern Europe\n
            \n
            This is in fact the mainstream academic position. You may look to Conquest, Davies, and Wheatcroft, who are genuinely anticommunist historians, for their analysis (they all say it wasn’t a genocide)
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            > Because the fraction of the current world that reads every day and learns every day is extremely small.\n
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            > Again, like I said before, how many people around you come back from work and want to read technical books and watch courses instead of chilling, or hanging out with friends? I have two friends who are nut jobs like me and work all the time. EVERYONE else is lazy and just wants to have fun after work, and that’s in my circle. This spans over decades in the different jobs and sectors I worked at, in different countries. Do you have a different experience around you? I have trouble convincing people to read for 30 minutes every day.\n
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            Better to have them making the decision than capitalists, who make more money for paying employees less\n
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            Also who says half of them have to be fired? Can’t everyone just work less?
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            Your only question is “what am I missing” and the answer is an economics education.\n
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            But to address your “concerns” you’re operating on the mindset of maximizing profit to compete against other firms maximizing profit, which is only a problem under capitalism (until you reach the monopoly stage)
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            > Late Victorian Age\n
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            It is literally a book about western liberal democracies committing genocide, including through intentionally creating famines.\n
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            > Oh, and you claim the Holodomor didn’t happen? Well, let me guess, Stalin also didn’t got 30 million sowiet people killed?\n
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            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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      > Maybe you’ll change your mind one day and understand why the world we live in is the way we live in.\n
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            > But to summarize. You basically want to wreck the current system on the basis that everyone will be diligent, reading all the time, just for the “greater good”, more so than their own profit.\n
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            No, that’s a strawman. People won’t all be diligent. But they will be more productive in general when they are not alienated from their labor. This has been proven with a bunch of economic data on socialist countries and data on cooperatives even within a capitalist environment.\n
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            > And btw, about the “bare minimum”. No one has a reason to not do the bare minimum as they don’t get fired (consequences). There will always be the lazy guy who does the bare minimum, and everyone will get lazier because they’ll get jealous with zero consequences.\n
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            You’re just literally describing capitalism and being like, what about this problem under socialism? The consequences are youre not contributing. Do you think everyone is suddenly going to be less motivated when they’re actually able to realize the product of their labor, instead of having a parasite on top taking it?
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            Thats it interesting scenario, but why are you assuming that there is a significant segment that won’t want to learn, especially when they’re no longer alienated from their labor? And why are you assuming that the total laborers will increase with new technology, when you can retrain existing workers?\n
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            I dont think your scenario is realistic, it kinda reads as really misanthropic
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            No, overthrowing capitalism and beginning a transition to a more rational economic system increases your life expectancy. You can literally look up graphs.\n
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            [statista.com/…/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041395/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/)
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          +body: "Yes. All of those countries had more civil rights and longer life expectancy after the revolution"
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            See you’re still trapped within the logic of capitalism which maximizes profits and expansion over other concerns.\n
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            > So, assuming we want to keep everyone (including useless people who’d rather have beer instead of reading a book to learn the new stuff), the income of everyone will just go down over time. Eventually, with no one getting fire there won’t be enough money to go around to feed them. What am I missing here?\n
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            These are all massive assumptions
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            Unfortunately in the case of econ 101, you are taught that 2+2=5 most modern econ is neoclassical, which means operating on pre-marx economics and just ignoring marxist critiques of the political economy.\n
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            > and money falls from the sky, and everyone being lazy leads to growth, I’ll ask them to justify.\n
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            Thats a mighty strawman you invented. Workers are going to do the bare minimum to not get fired when it literally doesn’t matter how much they work, their income will be the same. When workers are invested in an organization, they do more work.
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          +body: "THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves."
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            Literally sharing nazi propaganda from Hearst press lol\n
            \n
            Anyway, capitalism is known for never having famines or economic crises, especially not cyclical ones
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            You literally only have one question, the rest of it is opining.\n
            \n
            You’re assuming a wage labor model and that people working twice as efficiently and at half intensity would result in decreased production.\n
            \n
            1. wage labor models aren’t universal\n
            2. there is no reasoning stated for why production would go down\n
            \n
            You’re assuming people would have to be fired to maintain competitive growth. This is based on the logic of firms competing to capture market share. There isn’t really a rational reason for this to need to happen under systems were the point is to accommodate human need, not to maximize profit.
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          +body: "Do you think the shareholders are active in problem solving? Workers include basically everyone but the shareholders. The tech guys, the executives, the managers."
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          +body: "Read the economy and class structure of german fascism if you want a detailed explanation for “scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds”"
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            > And yes, the only pro-Western nation ever falling into a serious Food-Crisis was… Haiti.\n
            \n
            Read Late Victorian Holocausts if you want to be less wrong.\n
            \n
            > Well, actually I am sharing “Wikipedia Propaganda” but if you want to call Wikipedia Nazi-Propaganda…\n
            \n
            The holodomor was originally fabricated by a hearst press associate at a time when Mr Hearst and the third Reich were openly collaborating on spreading nazi propaganda in the US. The famine was bad but the myth that it was a genocide needs to die as it is literally nazi propaganda and was used as a justification for collaborating with the holocaust in Eastern Europe\n
            \n
            This is in fact the mainstream academic position. You may look to Conquest, Davies, and Wheatcroft, who are genuinely anticommunist historians, for their analysis (they all say it wasn’t a genocide)
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            > Because the fraction of the current world that reads every day and learns every day is extremely small.\n
            \n
            Socialist countries are famous for literacy and education drives\n
            \n
            > Again, like I said before, how many people around you come back from work and want to read technical books and watch courses instead of chilling, or hanging out with friends? I have two friends who are nut jobs like me and work all the time. EVERYONE else is lazy and just wants to have fun after work, and that’s in my circle. This spans over decades in the different jobs and sectors I worked at, in different countries. Do you have a different experience around you? I have trouble convincing people to read for 30 minutes every day.\n
            \n
            I dont think it is reasonable to assume humans will act the same way in all conditions. I know people who just slack off, and its generally because there is no incentive not to do the bare minimum when you are alienated from your labor
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            Better to have them making the decision than capitalists, who make more money for paying employees less\n
            \n
            Also who says half of them have to be fired? Can’t everyone just work less?
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            Your only question is “what am I missing” and the answer is an economics education.\n
            \n
            But to address your “concerns” you’re operating on the mindset of maximizing profit to compete against other firms maximizing profit, which is only a problem under capitalism (until you reach the monopoly stage)
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            > Late Victorian Age\n
            \n
            It is literally a book about western liberal democracies committing genocide, including through intentionally creating famines.\n
            \n
            > Oh, and you claim the Holodomor didn’t happen? Well, let me guess, Stalin also didn’t got 30 million sowiet people killed?\n
            \n
            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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            I will repeat:\n
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      > Maybe you’ll change your mind one day and understand why the world we live in is the way we live in.\n
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            Thats it interesting scenario, but why are you assuming that there is a significant segment that won’t want to learn, especially when they’re no longer alienated from their labor? And why are you assuming that the total laborers will increase with new technology, when you can retrain existing workers?\n
            \n
            I dont think your scenario is realistic, it kinda reads as really misanthropic
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            No, overthrowing capitalism and beginning a transition to a more rational economic system increases your life expectancy. You can literally look up graphs.\n
            \n
            [statista.com/…/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041395/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/)
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          +body: "Yes. All of those countries had more civil rights and longer life expectancy after the revolution"
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            See you’re still trapped within the logic of capitalism which maximizes profits and expansion over other concerns.\n
            \n
            > So, assuming we want to keep everyone (including useless people who’d rather have beer instead of reading a book to learn the new stuff), the income of everyone will just go down over time. Eventually, with no one getting fire there won’t be enough money to go around to feed them. What am I missing here?\n
            \n
            These are all massive assumptions
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            Unfortunately in the case of econ 101, you are taught that 2+2=5 most modern econ is neoclassical, which means operating on pre-marx economics and just ignoring marxist critiques of the political economy.\n
            \n
            > and money falls from the sky, and everyone being lazy leads to growth, I’ll ask them to justify.\n
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            Thats a mighty strawman you invented. Workers are going to do the bare minimum to not get fired when it literally doesn’t matter how much they work, their income will be the same. When workers are invested in an organization, they do more work.
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          +body: "THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves."
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            Literally sharing nazi propaganda from Hearst press lol\n
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            Anyway, capitalism is known for never having famines or economic crises, especially not cyclical ones
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            You literally only have one question, the rest of it is opining.\n
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            You’re assuming a wage labor model and that people working twice as efficiently and at half intensity would result in decreased production.\n
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            1. wage labor models aren’t universal\n
            2. there is no reasoning stated for why production would go down\n
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            You’re assuming people would have to be fired to maintain competitive growth. This is based on the logic of firms competing to capture market share. There isn’t really a rational reason for this to need to happen under systems were the point is to accommodate human need, not to maximize profit.
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          +body: "Do you think the shareholders are active in problem solving? Workers include basically everyone but the shareholders. The tech guys, the executives, the managers."
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          +body: "Read the economy and class structure of german fascism if you want a detailed explanation for “scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds”"
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            > And yes, the only pro-Western nation ever falling into a serious Food-Crisis was… Haiti.\n
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            Read Late Victorian Holocausts if you want to be less wrong.\n
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            > Well, actually I am sharing “Wikipedia Propaganda” but if you want to call Wikipedia Nazi-Propaganda…\n
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            The holodomor was originally fabricated by a hearst press associate at a time when Mr Hearst and the third Reich were openly collaborating on spreading nazi propaganda in the US. The famine was bad but the myth that it was a genocide needs to die as it is literally nazi propaganda and was used as a justification for collaborating with the holocaust in Eastern Europe\n
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            This is in fact the mainstream academic position. You may look to Conquest, Davies, and Wheatcroft, who are genuinely anticommunist historians, for their analysis (they all say it wasn’t a genocide)
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            > Because the fraction of the current world that reads every day and learns every day is extremely small.\n
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            Socialist countries are famous for literacy and education drives\n
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            > Again, like I said before, how many people around you come back from work and want to read technical books and watch courses instead of chilling, or hanging out with friends? I have two friends who are nut jobs like me and work all the time. EVERYONE else is lazy and just wants to have fun after work, and that’s in my circle. This spans over decades in the different jobs and sectors I worked at, in different countries. Do you have a different experience around you? I have trouble convincing people to read for 30 minutes every day.\n
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            I dont think it is reasonable to assume humans will act the same way in all conditions. I know people who just slack off, and its generally because there is no incentive not to do the bare minimum when you are alienated from your labor
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            Better to have them making the decision than capitalists, who make more money for paying employees less\n
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            Also who says half of them have to be fired? Can’t everyone just work less?
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            Your only question is “what am I missing” and the answer is an economics education.\n
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            But to address your “concerns” you’re operating on the mindset of maximizing profit to compete against other firms maximizing profit, which is only a problem under capitalism (until you reach the monopoly stage)
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            > Late Victorian Age\n
            \n
            It is literally a book about western liberal democracies committing genocide, including through intentionally creating famines.\n
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            > Oh, and you claim the Holodomor didn’t happen? Well, let me guess, Stalin also didn’t got 30 million sowiet people killed?\n
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            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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          +body: "Read “riding the wave” fo learn about how Scandinavian countries are beneficiaries of the imperialist system"
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            I will repeat:\n
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            Listen if you want to believe nazi propaganda that was used to justify collaborating with the holocaust you can be my guest. You just won’t be in line with the mainstream academic concensus on the subject.
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      > Maybe you’ll change your mind one day and understand why the world we live in is the way we live in.\n
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      This from the person who is spouting econ 101 nonsense.
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            > But to summarize. You basically want to wreck the current system on the basis that everyone will be diligent, reading all the time, just for the “greater good”, more so than their own profit.\n
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            No, that’s a strawman. People won’t all be diligent. But they will be more productive in general when they are not alienated from their labor. This has been proven with a bunch of economic data on socialist countries and data on cooperatives even within a capitalist environment.\n
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            > And btw, about the “bare minimum”. No one has a reason to not do the bare minimum as they don’t get fired (consequences). There will always be the lazy guy who does the bare minimum, and everyone will get lazier because they’ll get jealous with zero consequences.\n
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            You’re just literally describing capitalism and being like, what about this problem under socialism? The consequences are youre not contributing. Do you think everyone is suddenly going to be less motivated when they’re actually able to realize the product of their labor, instead of having a parasite on top taking it?
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            Thats it interesting scenario, but why are you assuming that there is a significant segment that won’t want to learn, especially when they’re no longer alienated from their labor? And why are you assuming that the total laborers will increase with new technology, when you can retrain existing workers?\n
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            I dont think your scenario is realistic, it kinda reads as really misanthropic
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            No, overthrowing capitalism and beginning a transition to a more rational economic system increases your life expectancy. You can literally look up graphs.\n
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            [statista.com/…/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041395/life-expectancy-russia-all-time/)
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            See you’re still trapped within the logic of capitalism which maximizes profits and expansion over other concerns.\n
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            > So, assuming we want to keep everyone (including useless people who’d rather have beer instead of reading a book to learn the new stuff), the income of everyone will just go down over time. Eventually, with no one getting fire there won’t be enough money to go around to feed them. What am I missing here?\n
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            These are all massive assumptions
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            Unfortunately in the case of econ 101, you are taught that 2+2=5 most modern econ is neoclassical, which means operating on pre-marx economics and just ignoring marxist critiques of the political economy.\n
            \n
            > and money falls from the sky, and everyone being lazy leads to growth, I’ll ask them to justify.\n
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            Thats a mighty strawman you invented. Workers are going to do the bare minimum to not get fired when it literally doesn’t matter how much they work, their income will be the same. When workers are invested in an organization, they do more work.
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          +body: "THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves."
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            Literally sharing nazi propaganda from Hearst press lol\n
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            Anyway, capitalism is known for never having famines or economic crises, especially not cyclical ones
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            You literally only have one question, the rest of it is opining.\n
            \n
            You’re assuming a wage labor model and that people working twice as efficiently and at half intensity would result in decreased production.\n
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            1. wage labor models aren’t universal\n
            2. there is no reasoning stated for why production would go down\n
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            You’re assuming people would have to be fired to maintain competitive growth. This is based on the logic of firms competing to capture market share. There isn’t really a rational reason for this to need to happen under systems were the point is to accommodate human need, not to maximize profit.
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          +body: "Do you think the shareholders are active in problem solving? Workers include basically everyone but the shareholders. The tech guys, the executives, the managers."
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          +body: "Read the economy and class structure of german fascism if you want a detailed explanation for “scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds”"
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          +body: """
            > And yes, the only pro-Western nation ever falling into a serious Food-Crisis was… Haiti.\n
            \n
            Read Late Victorian Holocausts if you want to be less wrong.\n
            \n
            > Well, actually I am sharing “Wikipedia Propaganda” but if you want to call Wikipedia Nazi-Propaganda…\n
            \n
            The holodomor was originally fabricated by a hearst press associate at a time when Mr Hearst and the third Reich were openly collaborating on spreading nazi propaganda in the US. The famine was bad but the myth that it was a genocide needs to die as it is literally nazi propaganda and was used as a justification for collaborating with the holocaust in Eastern Europe\n
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            This is in fact the mainstream academic position. You may look to Conquest, Davies, and Wheatcroft, who are genuinely anticommunist historians, for their analysis (they all say it wasn’t a genocide)
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            > Because the fraction of the current world that reads every day and learns every day is extremely small.\n
            \n
            Socialist countries are famous for literacy and education drives\n
            \n
            > Again, like I said before, how many people around you come back from work and want to read technical books and watch courses instead of chilling, or hanging out with friends? I have two friends who are nut jobs like me and work all the time. EVERYONE else is lazy and just wants to have fun after work, and that’s in my circle. This spans over decades in the different jobs and sectors I worked at, in different countries. Do you have a different experience around you? I have trouble convincing people to read for 30 minutes every day.\n
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            I dont think it is reasonable to assume humans will act the same way in all conditions. I know people who just slack off, and its generally because there is no incentive not to do the bare minimum when you are alienated from your labor
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            Better to have them making the decision than capitalists, who make more money for paying employees less\n
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            Also who says half of them have to be fired? Can’t everyone just work less?
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            Your only question is “what am I missing” and the answer is an economics education.\n
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            But to address your “concerns” you’re operating on the mindset of maximizing profit to compete against other firms maximizing profit, which is only a problem under capitalism (until you reach the monopoly stage)
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            > Late Victorian Age\n
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            It is literally a book about western liberal democracies committing genocide, including through intentionally creating famines.\n
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            > Oh, and you claim the Holodomor didn’t happen? Well, let me guess, Stalin also didn’t got 30 million sowiet people killed?\n
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            I will repeat:\n
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      > Maybe you’ll change your mind one day and understand why the world we live in is the way we live in.\n
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          Mfw the liberals who acknowledge that the Republicans are fascists want only the fascists to have guns (if you think gun control will be enforced by fascist cops to disarm their fascist buddies you’ve got another thing coming)\n
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          Mfw liberals don’t acknowledge that mass shootings are caused by white supremacy, misogyny, and abuse culture in addition to guns because they don’t want to or are incapable of addressing white supremacy, misogyny, and abuse culture, but they are capable of pushing gun control (that doesn’t prevent mass shootings (see my first point) but does further criminalize poc, poor people, queer people, and women owning guns)\n
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          Mfw liberals have never heard of the mulford act and understood its political implications\n
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          Mfw liberals haven’t read any anti-colonial history or civil rights history, even basic stuff like “this nonviolent stuff will get you killed” which shows how an armed movement has been necessary for both violent and nonviolent liberatory movements\n
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          > The Prolitariat cant flourish if the party in power are actively genociding trans folks and minorities.\n
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          Democrats are also actively genociding minorities, the concentration camps and wars are bipartisan.\n
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          I’ve said nothing in my previous comments about voting. For me I do not see it as significant enough of a political act to bother discussing.
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          Read “this nonviolent stuff will get you killed”\n
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          Look up how the left won in Vietnam, and beat the nazis
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          Do you honestly want Republicans to pass gun control? What do you think a republican gun control bill would look like?\n
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          Mfw the liberals who acknowledge that the Republicans are fascists want only the fascists to have guns (if you think gun control will be enforced by fascist cops to disarm their fascist buddies you’ve got another thing coming)\n
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          Mfw liberals don’t acknowledge that mass shootings are caused by white supremacy, misogyny, and abuse culture in addition to guns because they don’t want to or are incapable of addressing white supremacy, misogyny, and abuse culture, but they are capable of pushing gun control (that doesn’t prevent mass shootings (see my first point) but does further criminalize poc, poor people, queer people, and women owning guns)\n
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          > The Prolitariat cant flourish if the party in power are actively genociding trans folks and minorities.\n
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          Democrats are also actively genociding minorities, the concentration camps and wars are bipartisan.\n
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          I’ve said nothing in my previous comments about voting. For me I do not see it as significant enough of a political act to bother discussing.
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          Read “this nonviolent stuff will get you killed”\n
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          Look up how the left won in Vietnam, and beat the nazis
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          Do you honestly want Republicans to pass gun control? What do you think a republican gun control bill would look like?\n
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          Do you think Republicans are capable of addressing mass shootings? They are literally caused by things that benefit Republicans and democrats
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          Mfw the liberals who acknowledge that the Republicans are fascists want only the fascists to have guns (if you think gun control will be enforced by fascist cops to disarm their fascist buddies you’ve got another thing coming)\n
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          Mfw liberals don’t acknowledge that mass shootings are caused by white supremacy, misogyny, and abuse culture in addition to guns because they don’t want to or are incapable of addressing white supremacy, misogyny, and abuse culture, but they are capable of pushing gun control (that doesn’t prevent mass shootings (see my first point) but does further criminalize poc, poor people, queer people, and women owning guns)\n
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          Mfw liberals have never heard of the mulford act and understood its political implications\n
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          Mfw liberals haven’t read any anti-colonial history or civil rights history, even basic stuff like “this nonviolent stuff will get you killed” which shows how an armed movement has been necessary for both violent and nonviolent liberatory movements\n
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          > The Prolitariat cant flourish if the party in power are actively genociding trans folks and minorities.\n
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          Democrats are also actively genociding minorities, the concentration camps and wars are bipartisan.\n
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          I’ve said nothing in my previous comments about voting. For me I do not see it as significant enough of a political act to bother discussing.
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          Read “this nonviolent stuff will get you killed”\n
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          Look up how the left won in Vietnam, and beat the nazis
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          Do you honestly want Republicans to pass gun control? What do you think a republican gun control bill would look like?\n
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          Mfw the liberals who acknowledge that the Republicans are fascists want only the fascists to have guns (if you think gun control will be enforced by fascist cops to disarm their fascist buddies you’ve got another thing coming)\n
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          Mfw liberals don’t acknowledge that mass shootings are caused by white supremacy, misogyny, and abuse culture in addition to guns because they don’t want to or are incapable of addressing white supremacy, misogyny, and abuse culture, but they are capable of pushing gun control (that doesn’t prevent mass shootings (see my first point) but does further criminalize poc, poor people, queer people, and women owning guns)\n
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          Mfw liberals have never heard of the mulford act and understood its political implications\n
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          Mfw liberals haven’t read any anti-colonial history or civil rights history, even basic stuff like “this nonviolent stuff will get you killed” which shows how an armed movement has been necessary for both violent and nonviolent liberatory movements\n
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          > The Prolitariat cant flourish if the party in power are actively genociding trans folks and minorities.\n
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          Democrats are also actively genociding minorities, the concentration camps and wars are bipartisan.\n
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          I’ve said nothing in my previous comments about voting. For me I do not see it as significant enough of a political act to bother discussing.
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          Read “this nonviolent stuff will get you killed”\n
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          Look up how the left won in Vietnam, and beat the nazis
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          Do you honestly want Republicans to pass gun control? What do you think a republican gun control bill would look like?\n
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          Do you think Republicans are capable of addressing mass shootings? They are literally caused by things that benefit Republicans and democrats
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          Mfw the liberals who acknowledge that the Republicans are fascists want only the fascists to have guns (if you think gun control will be enforced by fascist cops to disarm their fascist buddies you’ve got another thing coming)\n
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          Mfw liberals don’t acknowledge that mass shootings are caused by white supremacy, misogyny, and abuse culture in addition to guns because they don’t want to or are incapable of addressing white supremacy, misogyny, and abuse culture, but they are capable of pushing gun control (that doesn’t prevent mass shootings (see my first point) but does further criminalize poc, poor people, queer people, and women owning guns)\n
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          Mfw liberals have never heard of the mulford act and understood its political implications\n
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          Mfw liberals haven’t read any anti-colonial history or civil rights history, even basic stuff like “this nonviolent stuff will get you killed” which shows how an armed movement has been necessary for both violent and nonviolent liberatory movements\n
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          > The Prolitariat cant flourish if the party in power are actively genociding trans folks and minorities.\n
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          Democrats are also actively genociding minorities, the concentration camps and wars are bipartisan.\n
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          I’ve said nothing in my previous comments about voting. For me I do not see it as significant enough of a political act to bother discussing.
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          Read “this nonviolent stuff will get you killed”\n
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          Look up how the left won in Vietnam, and beat the nazis
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          Do you honestly want Republicans to pass gun control? What do you think a republican gun control bill would look like?\n
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          Mfw the liberals who acknowledge that the Republicans are fascists want only the fascists to have guns (if you think gun control will be enforced by fascist cops to disarm their fascist buddies you’ve got another thing coming)\n
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          Mfw liberals don’t acknowledge that mass shootings are caused by white supremacy, misogyny, and abuse culture in addition to guns because they don’t want to or are incapable of addressing white supremacy, misogyny, and abuse culture, but they are capable of pushing gun control (that doesn’t prevent mass shootings (see my first point) but does further criminalize poc, poor people, queer people, and women owning guns)\n
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          Mfw liberals have never heard of the mulford act and understood its political implications\n
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          Mfw liberals haven’t read any anti-colonial history or civil rights history, even basic stuff like “this nonviolent stuff will get you killed” which shows how an armed movement has been necessary for both violent and nonviolent liberatory movements\n
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          > The Prolitariat cant flourish if the party in power are actively genociding trans folks and minorities.\n
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          Democrats are also actively genociding minorities, the concentration camps and wars are bipartisan.\n
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          I’ve said nothing in my previous comments about voting. For me I do not see it as significant enough of a political act to bother discussing.
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          Read “this nonviolent stuff will get you killed”\n
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          Look up how the left won in Vietnam, and beat the nazis
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          Do you honestly want Republicans to pass gun control? What do you think a republican gun control bill would look like?\n
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          Do you think Republicans are capable of addressing mass shootings? They are literally caused by things that benefit Republicans and democrats
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            > The Prolitariat cant flourish if the party in power are actively genociding trans folks and minorities.\n
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            Democrats are also actively genociding minorities, the concentration camps and wars are bipartisan.\n
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            Read “this nonviolent stuff will get you killed”\n
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            Look up how the left won in Vietnam, and beat the nazis
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            Do you honestly want Republicans to pass gun control? What do you think a republican gun control bill would look like?\n
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            Do you think Republicans are capable of addressing mass shootings? They are literally caused by things that benefit Republicans and democrats
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      Mfw the liberals who acknowledge that the Republicans are fascists want only the fascists to have guns (if you think gun control will be enforced by fascist cops to disarm their fascist buddies you’ve got another thing coming)\n
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      Mfw liberals don’t acknowledge that mass shootings are caused by white supremacy, misogyny, and abuse culture in addition to guns because they don’t want to or are incapable of addressing white supremacy, misogyny, and abuse culture, but they are capable of pushing gun control (that doesn’t prevent mass shootings (see my first point) but does further criminalize poc, poor people, queer people, and women owning guns)\n
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      Mfw liberals have never heard of the mulford act and understood its political implications\n
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      Mfw liberals haven’t read any anti-colonial history or civil rights history, even basic stuff like “this nonviolent stuff will get you killed” which shows how an armed movement has been necessary for both violent and nonviolent liberatory movements\n
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            > The Prolitariat cant flourish if the party in power are actively genociding trans folks and minorities.\n
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            Democrats are also actively genociding minorities, the concentration camps and wars are bipartisan.\n
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            I’ve said nothing in my previous comments about voting. For me I do not see it as significant enough of a political act to bother discussing.
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            Read “this nonviolent stuff will get you killed”\n
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            Look up how the left won in Vietnam, and beat the nazis
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            Do you honestly want Republicans to pass gun control? What do you think a republican gun control bill would look like?\n
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            Do you think Republicans are capable of addressing mass shootings? They are literally caused by things that benefit Republicans and democrats
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      Mfw the liberals who acknowledge that the Republicans are fascists want only the fascists to have guns (if you think gun control will be enforced by fascist cops to disarm their fascist buddies you’ve got another thing coming)\n
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      Mfw liberals don’t acknowledge that mass shootings are caused by white supremacy, misogyny, and abuse culture in addition to guns because they don’t want to or are incapable of addressing white supremacy, misogyny, and abuse culture, but they are capable of pushing gun control (that doesn’t prevent mass shootings (see my first point) but does further criminalize poc, poor people, queer people, and women owning guns)\n
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      Mfw liberals have never heard of the mulford act and understood its political implications\n
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      Mfw liberals haven’t read any anti-colonial history or civil rights history, even basic stuff like “this nonviolent stuff will get you killed” which shows how an armed movement has been necessary for both violent and nonviolent liberatory movements\n
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            > The Prolitariat cant flourish if the party in power are actively genociding trans folks and minorities.\n
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            Democrats are also actively genociding minorities, the concentration camps and wars are bipartisan.\n
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            I’ve said nothing in my previous comments about voting. For me I do not see it as significant enough of a political act to bother discussing.
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            Read “this nonviolent stuff will get you killed”\n
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            Look up how the left won in Vietnam, and beat the nazis
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            Do you honestly want Republicans to pass gun control? What do you think a republican gun control bill would look like?\n
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            Do you think Republicans are capable of addressing mass shootings? They are literally caused by things that benefit Republicans and democrats
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      Mfw the liberals who acknowledge that the Republicans are fascists want only the fascists to have guns (if you think gun control will be enforced by fascist cops to disarm their fascist buddies you’ve got another thing coming)\n
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      Mfw liberals don’t acknowledge that mass shootings are caused by white supremacy, misogyny, and abuse culture in addition to guns because they don’t want to or are incapable of addressing white supremacy, misogyny, and abuse culture, but they are capable of pushing gun control (that doesn’t prevent mass shootings (see my first point) but does further criminalize poc, poor people, queer people, and women owning guns)\n
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      Mfw liberals have never heard of the mulford act and understood its political implications\n
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      Mfw liberals haven’t read any anti-colonial history or civil rights history, even basic stuff like “this nonviolent stuff will get you killed” which shows how an armed movement has been necessary for both violent and nonviolent liberatory movements\n
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            > The Prolitariat cant flourish if the party in power are actively genociding trans folks and minorities.\n
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            Democrats are also actively genociding minorities, the concentration camps and wars are bipartisan.\n
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            I’ve said nothing in my previous comments about voting. For me I do not see it as significant enough of a political act to bother discussing.
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            Read “this nonviolent stuff will get you killed”\n
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            Look up how the left won in Vietnam, and beat the nazis
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            Do you honestly want Republicans to pass gun control? What do you think a republican gun control bill would look like?\n
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            Do you think Republicans are capable of addressing mass shootings? They are literally caused by things that benefit Republicans and democrats
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      Mfw the liberals who acknowledge that the Republicans are fascists want only the fascists to have guns (if you think gun control will be enforced by fascist cops to disarm their fascist buddies you’ve got another thing coming)\n
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      Mfw liberals don’t acknowledge that mass shootings are caused by white supremacy, misogyny, and abuse culture in addition to guns because they don’t want to or are incapable of addressing white supremacy, misogyny, and abuse culture, but they are capable of pushing gun control (that doesn’t prevent mass shootings (see my first point) but does further criminalize poc, poor people, queer people, and women owning guns)\n
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      Mfw liberals have never heard of the mulford act and understood its political implications\n
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      Mfw liberals haven’t read any anti-colonial history or civil rights history, even basic stuff like “this nonviolent stuff will get you killed” which shows how an armed movement has been necessary for both violent and nonviolent liberatory movements\n
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            > The Prolitariat cant flourish if the party in power are actively genociding trans folks and minorities.\n
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            Democrats are also actively genociding minorities, the concentration camps and wars are bipartisan.\n
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            I’ve said nothing in my previous comments about voting. For me I do not see it as significant enough of a political act to bother discussing.
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            Read “this nonviolent stuff will get you killed”\n
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            Look up how the left won in Vietnam, and beat the nazis
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            Do you honestly want Republicans to pass gun control? What do you think a republican gun control bill would look like?\n
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      Mfw the liberals who acknowledge that the Republicans are fascists want only the fascists to have guns (if you think gun control will be enforced by fascist cops to disarm their fascist buddies you’ve got another thing coming)\n
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      Mfw liberals don’t acknowledge that mass shootings are caused by white supremacy, misogyny, and abuse culture in addition to guns because they don’t want to or are incapable of addressing white supremacy, misogyny, and abuse culture, but they are capable of pushing gun control (that doesn’t prevent mass shootings (see my first point) but does further criminalize poc, poor people, queer people, and women owning guns)\n
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            > The Prolitariat cant flourish if the party in power are actively genociding trans folks and minorities.\n
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            Democrats are also actively genociding minorities, the concentration camps and wars are bipartisan.\n
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            I’ve said nothing in my previous comments about voting. For me I do not see it as significant enough of a political act to bother discussing.
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            Read “this nonviolent stuff will get you killed”\n
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            Look up how the left won in Vietnam, and beat the nazis
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            Do you honestly want Republicans to pass gun control? What do you think a republican gun control bill would look like?\n
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      Mfw the liberals who acknowledge that the Republicans are fascists want only the fascists to have guns (if you think gun control will be enforced by fascist cops to disarm their fascist buddies you’ve got another thing coming)\n
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      Mfw liberals don’t acknowledge that mass shootings are caused by white supremacy, misogyny, and abuse culture in addition to guns because they don’t want to or are incapable of addressing white supremacy, misogyny, and abuse culture, but they are capable of pushing gun control (that doesn’t prevent mass shootings (see my first point) but does further criminalize poc, poor people, queer people, and women owning guns)\n
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            Mfw the liberals who acknowledge that the Republicans are fascists want only the fascists to have guns (if you think gun control will be enforced by fascist cops to disarm their fascist buddies you’ve got another thing coming)\n
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            Mfw liberals don’t acknowledge that mass shootings are caused by white supremacy, misogyny, and abuse culture in addition to guns because they don’t want to or are incapable of addressing white supremacy, misogyny, and abuse culture, but they are capable of pushing gun control (that doesn’t prevent mass shootings (see my first point) but does further criminalize poc, poor people, queer people, and women owning guns)\n
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            Do you honestly want Republicans to pass gun control? What do you think a republican gun control bill would look like?\n
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            Mfw the liberals who acknowledge that the Republicans are fascists want only the fascists to have guns (if you think gun control will be enforced by fascist cops to disarm their fascist buddies you’ve got another thing coming)\n
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            Mfw liberals don’t acknowledge that mass shootings are caused by white supremacy, misogyny, and abuse culture in addition to guns because they don’t want to or are incapable of addressing white supremacy, misogyny, and abuse culture, but they are capable of pushing gun control (that doesn’t prevent mass shootings (see my first point) but does further criminalize poc, poor people, queer people, and women owning guns)\n
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            Mfw liberals have never heard of the mulford act and understood its political implications\n
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            Mfw liberals haven’t read any anti-colonial history or civil rights history, even basic stuff like “this nonviolent stuff will get you killed” which shows how an armed movement has been necessary for both violent and nonviolent liberatory movements\n
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            Do you honestly want Republicans to pass gun control? What do you think a republican gun control bill would look like?\n
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      > The Prolitariat cant flourish if the party in power are actively genociding trans folks and minorities.\n
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      I’ve said nothing in my previous comments about voting. For me I do not see it as significant enough of a political act to bother discussing.
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            Mfw the liberals who acknowledge that the Republicans are fascists want only the fascists to have guns (if you think gun control will be enforced by fascist cops to disarm their fascist buddies you’ve got another thing coming)\n
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            Mfw liberals don’t acknowledge that mass shootings are caused by white supremacy, misogyny, and abuse culture in addition to guns because they don’t want to or are incapable of addressing white supremacy, misogyny, and abuse culture, but they are capable of pushing gun control (that doesn’t prevent mass shootings (see my first point) but does further criminalize poc, poor people, queer people, and women owning guns)\n
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            Mfw liberals have never heard of the mulford act and understood its political implications\n
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            Mfw liberals haven’t read any anti-colonial history or civil rights history, even basic stuff like “this nonviolent stuff will get you killed” which shows how an armed movement has been necessary for both violent and nonviolent liberatory movements\n
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            Read “this nonviolent stuff will get you killed”\n
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            Do you honestly want Republicans to pass gun control? What do you think a republican gun control bill would look like?\n
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      > The Prolitariat cant flourish if the party in power are actively genociding trans folks and minorities.\n
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      Democrats are also actively genociding minorities, the concentration camps and wars are bipartisan.\n
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      I’ve said nothing in my previous comments about voting. For me I do not see it as significant enough of a political act to bother discussing.
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            Mfw the liberals who acknowledge that the Republicans are fascists want only the fascists to have guns (if you think gun control will be enforced by fascist cops to disarm their fascist buddies you’ve got another thing coming)\n
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            Read “this nonviolent stuff will get you killed”\n
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            Look up how the left won in Vietnam, and beat the nazis
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            Do you honestly want Republicans to pass gun control? What do you think a republican gun control bill would look like?\n
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      > The Prolitariat cant flourish if the party in power are actively genociding trans folks and minorities.\n
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      Democrats are also actively genociding minorities, the concentration camps and wars are bipartisan.\n
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      I’ve said nothing in my previous comments about voting. For me I do not see it as significant enough of a political act to bother discussing.
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            Mfw the liberals who acknowledge that the Republicans are fascists want only the fascists to have guns (if you think gun control will be enforced by fascist cops to disarm their fascist buddies you’ve got another thing coming)\n
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            Mfw liberals don’t acknowledge that mass shootings are caused by white supremacy, misogyny, and abuse culture in addition to guns because they don’t want to or are incapable of addressing white supremacy, misogyny, and abuse culture, but they are capable of pushing gun control (that doesn’t prevent mass shootings (see my first point) but does further criminalize poc, poor people, queer people, and women owning guns)\n
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            Read “this nonviolent stuff will get you killed”\n
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            Look up how the left won in Vietnam, and beat the nazis
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            Do you honestly want Republicans to pass gun control? What do you think a republican gun control bill would look like?\n
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      > The Prolitariat cant flourish if the party in power are actively genociding trans folks and minorities.\n
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      Democrats are also actively genociding minorities, the concentration camps and wars are bipartisan.\n
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      I’ve said nothing in my previous comments about voting. For me I do not see it as significant enough of a political act to bother discussing.
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            Mfw the liberals who acknowledge that the Republicans are fascists want only the fascists to have guns (if you think gun control will be enforced by fascist cops to disarm their fascist buddies you’ve got another thing coming)\n
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            Mfw liberals don’t acknowledge that mass shootings are caused by white supremacy, misogyny, and abuse culture in addition to guns because they don’t want to or are incapable of addressing white supremacy, misogyny, and abuse culture, but they are capable of pushing gun control (that doesn’t prevent mass shootings (see my first point) but does further criminalize poc, poor people, queer people, and women owning guns)\n
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            Do you honestly want Republicans to pass gun control? What do you think a republican gun control bill would look like?\n
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      > The Prolitariat cant flourish if the party in power are actively genociding trans folks and minorities.\n
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            Mfw the liberals who acknowledge that the Republicans are fascists want only the fascists to have guns (if you think gun control will be enforced by fascist cops to disarm their fascist buddies you’ve got another thing coming)\n
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            Mfw liberals don’t acknowledge that mass shootings are caused by white supremacy, misogyny, and abuse culture in addition to guns because they don’t want to or are incapable of addressing white supremacy, misogyny, and abuse culture, but they are capable of pushing gun control (that doesn’t prevent mass shootings (see my first point) but does further criminalize poc, poor people, queer people, and women owning guns)\n
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            > The Prolitariat cant flourish if the party in power are actively genociding trans folks and minorities.\n
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            Democrats are also actively genociding minorities, the concentration camps and wars are bipartisan.\n
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            I’ve said nothing in my previous comments about voting. For me I do not see it as significant enough of a political act to bother discussing.
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            Do you honestly want Republicans to pass gun control? What do you think a republican gun control bill would look like?\n
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            Mfw the liberals who acknowledge that the Republicans are fascists want only the fascists to have guns (if you think gun control will be enforced by fascist cops to disarm their fascist buddies you’ve got another thing coming)\n
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            Mfw liberals don’t acknowledge that mass shootings are caused by white supremacy, misogyny, and abuse culture in addition to guns because they don’t want to or are incapable of addressing white supremacy, misogyny, and abuse culture, but they are capable of pushing gun control (that doesn’t prevent mass shootings (see my first point) but does further criminalize poc, poor people, queer people, and women owning guns)\n
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            Mfw liberals have never heard of the mulford act and understood its political implications\n
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            Mfw liberals haven’t read any anti-colonial history or civil rights history, even basic stuff like “this nonviolent stuff will get you killed” which shows how an armed movement has been necessary for both violent and nonviolent liberatory movements\n
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            > The Prolitariat cant flourish if the party in power are actively genociding trans folks and minorities.\n
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            Democrats are also actively genociding minorities, the concentration camps and wars are bipartisan.\n
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            I’ve said nothing in my previous comments about voting. For me I do not see it as significant enough of a political act to bother discussing.
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            Do you honestly want Republicans to pass gun control? What do you think a republican gun control bill would look like?\n
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            Do you think Republicans are capable of addressing mass shootings? They are literally caused by things that benefit Republicans and democrats
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            Mfw the liberals who acknowledge that the Republicans are fascists want only the fascists to have guns (if you think gun control will be enforced by fascist cops to disarm their fascist buddies you’ve got another thing coming)\n
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            Mfw liberals don’t acknowledge that mass shootings are caused by white supremacy, misogyny, and abuse culture in addition to guns because they don’t want to or are incapable of addressing white supremacy, misogyny, and abuse culture, but they are capable of pushing gun control (that doesn’t prevent mass shootings (see my first point) but does further criminalize poc, poor people, queer people, and women owning guns)\n
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            Mfw liberals have never heard of the mulford act and understood its political implications\n
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            Mfw liberals haven’t read any anti-colonial history or civil rights history, even basic stuff like “this nonviolent stuff will get you killed” which shows how an armed movement has been necessary for both violent and nonviolent liberatory movements\n
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            > The Prolitariat cant flourish if the party in power are actively genociding trans folks and minorities.\n
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            Democrats are also actively genociding minorities, the concentration camps and wars are bipartisan.\n
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            I’ve said nothing in my previous comments about voting. For me I do not see it as significant enough of a political act to bother discussing.
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            Do you honestly want Republicans to pass gun control? What do you think a republican gun control bill would look like?\n
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            Do you think Republicans are capable of addressing mass shootings? They are literally caused by things that benefit Republicans and democrats
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            Mfw the liberals who acknowledge that the Republicans are fascists want only the fascists to have guns (if you think gun control will be enforced by fascist cops to disarm their fascist buddies you’ve got another thing coming)\n
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            Mfw liberals don’t acknowledge that mass shootings are caused by white supremacy, misogyny, and abuse culture in addition to guns because they don’t want to or are incapable of addressing white supremacy, misogyny, and abuse culture, but they are capable of pushing gun control (that doesn’t prevent mass shootings (see my first point) but does further criminalize poc, poor people, queer people, and women owning guns)\n
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            Mfw liberals haven’t read any anti-colonial history or civil rights history, even basic stuff like “this nonviolent stuff will get you killed” which shows how an armed movement has been necessary for both violent and nonviolent liberatory movements\n
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            > The Prolitariat cant flourish if the party in power are actively genociding trans folks and minorities.\n
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            Democrats are also actively genociding minorities, the concentration camps and wars are bipartisan.\n
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            I’ve said nothing in my previous comments about voting. For me I do not see it as significant enough of a political act to bother discussing.
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            Do you honestly want Republicans to pass gun control? What do you think a republican gun control bill would look like?\n
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            Mfw the liberals who acknowledge that the Republicans are fascists want only the fascists to have guns (if you think gun control will be enforced by fascist cops to disarm their fascist buddies you’ve got another thing coming)\n
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            Mfw liberals don’t acknowledge that mass shootings are caused by white supremacy, misogyny, and abuse culture in addition to guns because they don’t want to or are incapable of addressing white supremacy, misogyny, and abuse culture, but they are capable of pushing gun control (that doesn’t prevent mass shootings (see my first point) but does further criminalize poc, poor people, queer people, and women owning guns)\n
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            Mfw liberals have never heard of the mulford act and understood its political implications\n
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            Mfw liberals haven’t read any anti-colonial history or civil rights history, even basic stuff like “this nonviolent stuff will get you killed” which shows how an armed movement has been necessary for both violent and nonviolent liberatory movements\n
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            > The Prolitariat cant flourish if the party in power are actively genociding trans folks and minorities.\n
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            Democrats are also actively genociding minorities, the concentration camps and wars are bipartisan.\n
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            I’ve said nothing in my previous comments about voting. For me I do not see it as significant enough of a political act to bother discussing.
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            Do you honestly want Republicans to pass gun control? What do you think a republican gun control bill would look like?\n
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            Mfw the liberals who acknowledge that the Republicans are fascists want only the fascists to have guns (if you think gun control will be enforced by fascist cops to disarm their fascist buddies you’ve got another thing coming)\n
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            Mfw liberals don’t acknowledge that mass shootings are caused by white supremacy, misogyny, and abuse culture in addition to guns because they don’t want to or are incapable of addressing white supremacy, misogyny, and abuse culture, but they are capable of pushing gun control (that doesn’t prevent mass shootings (see my first point) but does further criminalize poc, poor people, queer people, and women owning guns)\n
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            Mfw liberals have never heard of the mulford act and understood its political implications\n
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            Mfw liberals haven’t read any anti-colonial history or civil rights history, even basic stuff like “this nonviolent stuff will get you killed” which shows how an armed movement has been necessary for both violent and nonviolent liberatory movements\n
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            > The Prolitariat cant flourish if the party in power are actively genociding trans folks and minorities.\n
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            Democrats are also actively genociding minorities, the concentration camps and wars are bipartisan.\n
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            I’ve said nothing in my previous comments about voting. For me I do not see it as significant enough of a political act to bother discussing.
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            Do you honestly want Republicans to pass gun control? What do you think a republican gun control bill would look like?\n
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            Do you think Republicans are capable of addressing mass shootings? They are literally caused by things that benefit Republicans and democrats
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      Read “this nonviolent stuff will get you killed”\n
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            Mfw the liberals who acknowledge that the Republicans are fascists want only the fascists to have guns (if you think gun control will be enforced by fascist cops to disarm their fascist buddies you’ve got another thing coming)\n
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            Mfw liberals don’t acknowledge that mass shootings are caused by white supremacy, misogyny, and abuse culture in addition to guns because they don’t want to or are incapable of addressing white supremacy, misogyny, and abuse culture, but they are capable of pushing gun control (that doesn’t prevent mass shootings (see my first point) but does further criminalize poc, poor people, queer people, and women owning guns)\n
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            Mfw liberals have never heard of the mulford act and understood its political implications\n
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            Mfw liberals haven’t read any anti-colonial history or civil rights history, even basic stuff like “this nonviolent stuff will get you killed” which shows how an armed movement has been necessary for both violent and nonviolent liberatory movements\n
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            > The Prolitariat cant flourish if the party in power are actively genociding trans folks and minorities.\n
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            Democrats are also actively genociding minorities, the concentration camps and wars are bipartisan.\n
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            I’ve said nothing in my previous comments about voting. For me I do not see it as significant enough of a political act to bother discussing.
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            Read “this nonviolent stuff will get you killed”\n
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            Look up how the left won in Vietnam, and beat the nazis
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      Do you honestly want Republicans to pass gun control? What do you think a republican gun control bill would look like?\n
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            Mfw the liberals who acknowledge that the Republicans are fascists want only the fascists to have guns (if you think gun control will be enforced by fascist cops to disarm their fascist buddies you’ve got another thing coming)\n
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            Mfw liberals don’t acknowledge that mass shootings are caused by white supremacy, misogyny, and abuse culture in addition to guns because they don’t want to or are incapable of addressing white supremacy, misogyny, and abuse culture, but they are capable of pushing gun control (that doesn’t prevent mass shootings (see my first point) but does further criminalize poc, poor people, queer people, and women owning guns)\n
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            > The Prolitariat cant flourish if the party in power are actively genociding trans folks and minorities.\n
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            Democrats are also actively genociding minorities, the concentration camps and wars are bipartisan.\n
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            I’ve said nothing in my previous comments about voting. For me I do not see it as significant enough of a political act to bother discussing.
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            Read “this nonviolent stuff will get you killed”\n
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            Look up how the left won in Vietnam, and beat the nazis
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      Do you honestly want Republicans to pass gun control? What do you think a republican gun control bill would look like?\n
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            Mfw the liberals who acknowledge that the Republicans are fascists want only the fascists to have guns (if you think gun control will be enforced by fascist cops to disarm their fascist buddies you’ve got another thing coming)\n
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            Mfw liberals don’t acknowledge that mass shootings are caused by white supremacy, misogyny, and abuse culture in addition to guns because they don’t want to or are incapable of addressing white supremacy, misogyny, and abuse culture, but they are capable of pushing gun control (that doesn’t prevent mass shootings (see my first point) but does further criminalize poc, poor people, queer people, and women owning guns)\n
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            Mfw liberals have never heard of the mulford act and understood its political implications\n
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            Mfw liberals haven’t read any anti-colonial history or civil rights history, even basic stuff like “this nonviolent stuff will get you killed” which shows how an armed movement has been necessary for both violent and nonviolent liberatory movements\n
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            > The Prolitariat cant flourish if the party in power are actively genociding trans folks and minorities.\n
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            Democrats are also actively genociding minorities, the concentration camps and wars are bipartisan.\n
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            I’ve said nothing in my previous comments about voting. For me I do not see it as significant enough of a political act to bother discussing.
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            Read “this nonviolent stuff will get you killed”\n
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            Look up how the left won in Vietnam, and beat the nazis
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            Mfw the liberals who acknowledge that the Republicans are fascists want only the fascists to have guns (if you think gun control will be enforced by fascist cops to disarm their fascist buddies you’ve got another thing coming)\n
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            Mfw liberals don’t acknowledge that mass shootings are caused by white supremacy, misogyny, and abuse culture in addition to guns because they don’t want to or are incapable of addressing white supremacy, misogyny, and abuse culture, but they are capable of pushing gun control (that doesn’t prevent mass shootings (see my first point) but does further criminalize poc, poor people, queer people, and women owning guns)\n
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            > The Prolitariat cant flourish if the party in power are actively genociding trans folks and minorities.\n
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            Mfw the liberals who acknowledge that the Republicans are fascists want only the fascists to have guns (if you think gun control will be enforced by fascist cops to disarm their fascist buddies you’ve got another thing coming)\n
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            Mfw liberals don’t acknowledge that mass shootings are caused by white supremacy, misogyny, and abuse culture in addition to guns because they don’t want to or are incapable of addressing white supremacy, misogyny, and abuse culture, but they are capable of pushing gun control (that doesn’t prevent mass shootings (see my first point) but does further criminalize poc, poor people, queer people, and women owning guns)\n
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            > The Prolitariat cant flourish if the party in power are actively genociding trans folks and minorities.\n
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            Mfw the liberals who acknowledge that the Republicans are fascists want only the fascists to have guns (if you think gun control will be enforced by fascist cops to disarm their fascist buddies you’ve got another thing coming)\n
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            Mfw liberals don’t acknowledge that mass shootings are caused by white supremacy, misogyny, and abuse culture in addition to guns because they don’t want to or are incapable of addressing white supremacy, misogyny, and abuse culture, but they are capable of pushing gun control (that doesn’t prevent mass shootings (see my first point) but does further criminalize poc, poor people, queer people, and women owning guns)\n
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            > The Prolitariat cant flourish if the party in power are actively genociding trans folks and minorities.\n
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            I’ve said nothing in my previous comments about voting. For me I do not see it as significant enough of a political act to bother discussing.
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            Read “this nonviolent stuff will get you killed”\n
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            Look up how the left won in Vietnam, and beat the nazis
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      Do you honestly want Republicans to pass gun control? What do you think a republican gun control bill would look like?\n
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Input props
[
  "label" => "Rounded edges"
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_GENERAL_ROUNDED_EDGES"
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#20583
  +label: "Rounded edges"
  +help: ""
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_GENERAL_ROUNDED_EDGES"
  +defaultValue: false
  +reloadRequired: true
}
settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent 18.0 MiB 0.17 ms
Input props
[
  "label" => "Infinite scrolling"
  "help" => "Automatically load more content when you reach the bottom of the page."
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_GENERAL_INFINITE_SCROLL"
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#20639
  +label: "Infinite scrolling"
  +help: "Automatically load more content when you reach the bottom of the page."
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_GENERAL_INFINITE_SCROLL"
  +defaultValue: false
  +reloadRequired: true
}
settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent 18.0 MiB 0.15 ms
Input props
[
  "label" => "Sticky navbar"
  "help" => "The navbar will stick to the top of the page when you scroll down."
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_GENERAL_FIXED_NAVBAR"
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#20698
  +label: "Sticky navbar"
  +help: "The navbar will stick to the top of the page when you scroll down."
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_GENERAL_FIXED_NAVBAR"
  +defaultValue: false
  +reloadRequired: true
}
settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent 18.0 MiB 0.15 ms
Input props
[
  "label" => "Show top bar"
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_GENERAL_TOPBAR"
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#20754
  +label: "Show top bar"
  +help: ""
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_GENERAL_TOPBAR"
  +defaultValue: false
  +reloadRequired: true
}
settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent 18.0 MiB 0.14 ms
Input props
[
  "label" => "Turbo mode (experimental)"
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_GENERAL_TURBO"
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#20810
  +label: "Turbo mode (experimental)"
  +help: ""
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_GENERAL_TURBO"
  +defaultValue: false
  +reloadRequired: true
}
user_settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\UserSettingsRowSwitchComponent 18.0 MiB 0.25 ms
Input props
[
  "label" => "Mark new comments"
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_MARK_NEW_COMMENTS"
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\UserSettingsRowSwitchComponent {#20868
  +label: "Mark new comments"
  +help: ""
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_MARK_NEW_COMMENTS"
  +defaultValue: false
  +reloadRequired: true
}
settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent 18.0 MiB 0.15 ms
Input props
[
  "label" => "Show "Support Us" block"
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_GENERAL_SUPPORT_US_BLOCK"
  "defaultValue" => true
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#20931
  +label: "Show "Support Us" block"
  +help: ""
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_GENERAL_SUPPORT_US_BLOCK"
  +defaultValue: true
  +reloadRequired: true
}
user_settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\UserSettingsRowSwitchComponent 18.0 MiB 0.18 ms
Input props
[
  "label" => "Show subscribed users"
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_SUB_CHANNEL_USERS"
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\UserSettingsRowSwitchComponent {#20989
  +label: "Show subscribed users"
  +help: ""
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_SUB_CHANNEL_USERS"
  +defaultValue: false
  +reloadRequired: true
}
user_settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\UserSettingsRowSwitchComponent 18.0 MiB 0.18 ms
Input props
[
  "label" => "Show subscribed magazines"
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_SUB_CHANNEL_MAGAZINES"
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\UserSettingsRowSwitchComponent {#21045
  +label: "Show subscribed magazines"
  +help: ""
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_SUB_CHANNEL_MAGAZINES"
  +defaultValue: false
  +reloadRequired: true
}
user_settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\UserSettingsRowSwitchComponent 18.0 MiB 0.24 ms
Input props
[
  "label" => "Show subscribed domains"
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_SUB_CHANNEL_DOMAINS"
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\UserSettingsRowSwitchComponent {#21101
  +label: "Show subscribed domains"
  +help: ""
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_SUB_CHANNEL_DOMAINS"
  +defaultValue: false
  +reloadRequired: true
}
settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent 18.0 MiB 0.17 ms
Input props
[
  "label" => "Auto media preview"
  "help" => "Automatically expand media previews."
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_ENTRIES_SHOW_PREVIEW"
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#21157
  +label: "Auto media preview"
  +help: "Automatically expand media previews."
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_ENTRIES_SHOW_PREVIEW"
  +defaultValue: false
  +reloadRequired: true
}
settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent 18.0 MiB 0.15 ms
Input props
[
  "label" => "Compact view"
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_ENTRIES_COMPACT"
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#21213
  +label: "Compact view"
  +help: ""
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_ENTRIES_COMPACT"
  +defaultValue: false
  +reloadRequired: true
}
settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent 18.0 MiB 0.14 ms
Input props
[
  "label" => "Show users’ avatars"
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_ENTRIES_SHOW_USERS_AVATARS"
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#21269
  +label: "Show users’ avatars"
  +help: ""
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_ENTRIES_SHOW_USERS_AVATARS"
  +defaultValue: false
  +reloadRequired: true
}
settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent 18.0 MiB 0.14 ms
Input props
[
  "label" => "Show magazines’ icons"
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_ENTRIES_SHOW_MAGAZINES_ICONS"
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#21325
  +label: "Show magazines’ icons"
  +help: ""
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_ENTRIES_SHOW_MAGAZINES_ICONS"
  +defaultValue: false
  +reloadRequired: true
}
settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent 18.0 MiB 0.16 ms
Input props
[
  "label" => "Show thumbnails"
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_ENTRIES_SHOW_THUMBNAILS"
  "defaultValue" => true
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#21381
  +label: "Show thumbnails"
  +help: ""
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_ENTRIES_SHOW_THUMBNAILS"
  +defaultValue: true
  +reloadRequired: true
}
settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent 18.0 MiB 0.16 ms
Input props
[
  "label" => "Auto media preview"
  "help" => "Automatically expand media previews."
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_POSTS_SHOW_PREVIEW"
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#21437
  +label: "Auto media preview"
  +help: "Automatically expand media previews."
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_POSTS_SHOW_PREVIEW"
  +defaultValue: false
  +reloadRequired: true
}
settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent 18.0 MiB 0.15 ms
Input props
[
  "label" => "Show users’ avatars"
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_POSTS_SHOW_USERS_AVATARS"
  "defaultValue" => true
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#21493
  +label: "Show users’ avatars"
  +help: ""
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_POSTS_SHOW_USERS_AVATARS"
  +defaultValue: true
  +reloadRequired: true
}
settings_row_enum App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowEnumComponent 18.0 MiB 0.22 ms
Input props
[
  "label" => "Comment reply position"
  "help" => "Display the comment reply form either at the top or bottom of the page. When 'infinite scroll' is enabled the position will always appear at the top."
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_COMMENTS_REPLY_POSITION"
  "values" => [
    [
      "name" => "top"
      "value" => "TOP"
    ]
    [
      "name" => "bottom"
      "value" => "BOTTOM"
    ]
  ]
  "defaultValue" => "TOP"
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowEnumComponent {#15128
  +label: "Comment reply position"
  +help: "Display the comment reply form either at the top or bottom of the page. When 'infinite scroll' is enabled the position will always appear at the top."
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_COMMENTS_REPLY_POSITION"
  +values: [
    [
      "name" => "top"
      "value" => "TOP"
    ]
    [
      "name" => "bottom"
      "value" => "BOTTOM"
    ]
  ]
  +defaultValue: "TOP"
  +reloadRequired: true
}
settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent 18.0 MiB 0.16 ms
Input props
[
  "label" => "Show Comment Avatars"
  "help" => "Display/hide user avatars when viewing comments on a single thread or post."
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_COMMENTS_SHOW_USER_AVATAR"
  "defaultValue" => true
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#19379
  +label: "Show Comment Avatars"
  +help: "Display/hide user avatars when viewing comments on a single thread or post."
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_COMMENTS_SHOW_USER_AVATAR"
  +defaultValue: true
  +reloadRequired: true
}
date App\Twig\Components\DateComponent 18.0 MiB 0.20 ms
Input props
[
  "date" => DateTimeImmutable @1696445179 {#268
    date: 2023-10-04 20:46:19.0 +02:00
  }
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\DateComponent {#16995
  +date: DateTimeImmutable @1696445179 {#268
    date: 2023-10-04 20:46:19.0 +02:00
  }
}
related_magazines App\Twig\Components\RelatedMagazinesComponent 18.0 MiB 7.36 ms
Input props
[
  "magazine" => null
  "tag" => null
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\RelatedMagazinesComponent {#20417
  +limit: 4
  +tag: null
  +magazine: null
  +type: "random"
  +title: "random_magazines"
  +refreshedRandom: false
  -repository: App\Repository\MagazineRepository {#1370 …}
  -cache: Symfony\Component\Cache\Adapter\TraceableTagAwareAdapter {#600 …}
  -twig: Twig\Environment {#1252 …}
  -requestStack: Symfony\Component\HttpFoundation\RequestStack {#1328 …}
}
active_users App\Twig\Components\ActiveUsersComponent 18.0 MiB 0.25 ms
Input props
[
  "magazine" => null
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\ActiveUsersComponent {#21559
  +magazine: null
  -userRepository: App\Repository\UserRepository {#603 …}
  -cache: Symfony\Component\Cache\Adapter\TraceableTagAwareAdapter {#600 …}
  -twig: Twig\Environment {#1252 …}
  -requestStack: Symfony\Component\HttpFoundation\RequestStack {#1328 …}
}
related_categories App\Twig\Components\RelatedCategoriesComponent 18.0 MiB 5.12 ms
Input props
[
  "magazine" => null
  "tag" => null
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\RelatedCategoriesComponent {#21618
  +limit: 4
  +tag: null
  +magazine: null
  +type: "random"
  +title: "random_categories"
  +refreshedRandom: false
  -repository: App\Repository\CategoryRepository {#21619 …}
  -cache: Symfony\Component\Cache\Adapter\TraceableTagAwareAdapter {#600 …}
  -twig: Twig\Environment {#1252 …}
  -requestStack: Symfony\Component\HttpFoundation\RequestStack {#1328 …}
}
related_posts App\Twig\Components\RelatedPostsComponent 20.0 MiB 9.19 ms
Input props
[
  "magazine" => null
  "tag" => null
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\RelatedPostsComponent {#21688
  +limit: 4
  +tag: null
  +magazine: null
  +type: "random"
  +post: null
  +title: "random_posts"
  +refreshedRandom: false
  -repository: App\Repository\PostRepository {#1764 …}
  -cache: Symfony\Component\Cache\Adapter\TraceableTagAwareAdapter {#600 …}
  -twig: Twig\Environment {#1252 …}
  -requestStack: Symfony\Component\HttpFoundation\RequestStack {#1328 …}
  -mentionManager: App\Service\MentionManager {#1504 …}
}
related_entries App\Twig\Components\RelatedEntriesComponent 20.0 MiB 7.54 ms
Input props
[
  "magazine" => null
  "tag" => null
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\RelatedEntriesComponent {#21757
  +limit: 4
  +tag: null
  +magazine: null
  +type: "random"
  +entry: null
  +title: "random_entries"
  +refreshedRandom: false
  -repository: App\Repository\EntryRepository {#1763 …}
  -cache: Symfony\Component\Cache\Adapter\TraceableTagAwareAdapter {#600 …}
  -twig: Twig\Environment {#1252 …}
  -requestStack: Symfony\Component\HttpFoundation\RequestStack {#1328 …}
  -mentionManager: App\Service\MentionManager {#1504 …}
}
support_us_block App\Twig\Components\SupportUsBlock 20.0 MiB 1.89 ms
Input props
[]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SupportUsBlock {#21826
  +subject: ? App\Entity\Contracts\VotableInterface
  +url: ? string
  -twig: Twig\Environment {#1252 …}
  -cache: Symfony\Component\Cache\Adapter\TraceableTagAwareAdapter {#600 …}
  -requestStack: Symfony\Component\HttpFoundation\RequestStack {#1328 …}
  -partnerBlockRepository: App\Repository\PartnerBlockRepository {#21827 …}
}
featured_magazines App\Twig\Components\FeaturedMagazinesComponent 20.0 MiB 1.02 ms
Input props
[
  "magazine" => null
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\FeaturedMagazinesComponent {#21919
  +magazine: null
  -twig: Twig\Environment {#1252 …}
  -repository: App\Repository\MagazineRepository {#1370 …}
}