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Configuration

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authenticators 
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Access Decision

affirmative Strategy
# Voter class
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"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\AuthenticatedVoter"
2 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
3 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
4 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\ExpressionVoter"
5 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
6 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
7 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
8 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
9 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
10 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
11 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
12 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
13 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
14 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"

Access decision log

# Result Attributes Object
1 DENIED ROLE_USER 
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"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
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"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
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"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
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"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
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"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
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"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
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"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
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"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
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"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
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"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
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"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
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"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
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2 DENIED moderate 
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  +slug: "Crystals-good-fungus-bad"
  +title: "Crystals good, fungus bad"
  +url: "https://i.imgur.com/kUjS80M.png"
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  +lastActive: DateTime @1701039778 {#2240
    date: 2023-11-27 00:02:58.0 +01:00
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      +body: """
        > Mushrooms have significantly less mysticism associated with them\n
        \n
        Ah yes, psychedelics are famously not associated with mysticism.\n
        \n
        > The closest comparison to the mycelial network is Yggdrasil, which is solidly in the high fantasy category rather than sci-fi.\n
        \n
        The closest comparison is actual fungal networks that exist beneath forests supporting life through the transference of nutrients and biochemical communication, are some of the largest organisms on the planet, and are actual nonfiction science.\n
        \n
        > All that is to say, I think the mycelial network needed more time to set up than the show gave it.\n
        \n
        I think I can agree with you to some extent there. Stamets, by virtue of being standoffish and prickly when the character is introduced, is not the best at explaining things, and the concept could have used a better explanation early on to mitigate the response I’m complaining about with this post.
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        date: 2023-11-21 05:28:42.0 +01:00
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      +body: """
        Yeah, I like Disco because I think they’re at least trying to do something, and that’s interesting to me. They don’t always succeed, but I respect the attempt. However, I fully get why people don’t like it.\n
        \n
        My issue is with the silly complaints, not what amounts to a matter of taste.
        """
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      +body: """
        Fuckin’ jeepers, this is grasping at straws.\n
        \n
        There’s no “lore” regarding the spore drive or the uniforms, so nothing to disregard.\n
        \n
        What specific lore about the Klingons was abandoned by Disco. Just one specific thing. Any single, specific thing.
        """
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      +body: """
        Lorca’s not the only one who uses it in Disco, though. It actually happens relatively frequently in the first two season. Obviously for seasons three and four things have changed and it’s no longer an issue.\n
        \n
        Hell, in SNW while Kirk is on the *Enterprise* in “Subspace Rhapsody” he prepares some samples collected outside the ship to be beamed to engineering and thinks nothing of that instance of intra-ship beaming. I guess he forgot that whole event where people broke out into song by the time he was mid-way through his own five year mission.
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        Depends on the episode.\n
        \n
        When Quark is abducted from Deep Space 9 in “House of Quark” he’s taken clear across the entire Federation and into the Klingon Empire in about a day. And then D’Ghor sends someone to the station to grab Rom and get him back to Qo’noS the next day.\n
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        Trek moves at the speed of plot.
        """
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        But it’s not a trail of spores going through space, and nothing in the show would lead someone who’d been paying the slightest amount of attention to think that’s the case.\n
        \n
        The mycelial network is a layer of subspace, which the spore drive allows them to access because the specific fungus they cultivate exists partially in subspace. Stamets makes that clear in “Choose Your Pain”.\n
        \n
        Subspace is entirely made up facilitate the stories that Trek tells. It was first mentioned in “Mudd’s Women”, the fourth episode of TOS to be produced. It has since served as a means of instantaneous communication across lightyears, as well as long range imaging vis subspace telescope, such as in “The Nth Degree”. The sensors aboard the ships also operate via subspace, allowing them to detect things lightyears away, and detect things ahead of them while travelling faster than light.\n
        \n
        And we learned in the TNG episode “Schisms” that subspace can support life, and even has beings living there. Or at least some aspects of subspace do.\n
        \n
        The spore drive in based on the real science of mycology, and extrapolated through a Trek lens. Nothing about it requires any sort of special property that has not already been established as existing within older episodes of Trek.\n
        \n
        The only one insulting your intelligence is yourself by believing you’re not creative enough to figure out how the spore drive fits into the larger world of Trek.
        """
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        Not for the most part.\n
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        The big one – relatively speaking, of course – in my mind is the site to site transporting.\n
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        > In Discovery, instead of honorable warriors, the klingons are a bunch of sneaky backstabbing and coward warriors.\n
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        Like they are in TOS?\n
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        Ah yes, psychedelics are famously not associated with mysticism.\n
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        > The closest comparison to the mycelial network is Yggdrasil, which is solidly in the high fantasy category rather than sci-fi.\n
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        The closest comparison is actual fungal networks that exist beneath forests supporting life through the transference of nutrients and biochemical communication, are some of the largest organisms on the planet, and are actual nonfiction science.\n
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        > All that is to say, I think the mycelial network needed more time to set up than the show gave it.\n
        \n
        I think I can agree with you to some extent there. Stamets, by virtue of being standoffish and prickly when the character is introduced, is not the best at explaining things, and the concept could have used a better explanation early on to mitigate the response I’m complaining about with this post.
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        Yeah, I like Disco because I think they’re at least trying to do something, and that’s interesting to me. They don’t always succeed, but I respect the attempt. However, I fully get why people don’t like it.\n
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        My issue is with the silly complaints, not what amounts to a matter of taste.
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        Fuckin’ jeepers, this is grasping at straws.\n
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        There’s no “lore” regarding the spore drive or the uniforms, so nothing to disregard.\n
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        What specific lore about the Klingons was abandoned by Disco. Just one specific thing. Any single, specific thing.
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        Lorca’s not the only one who uses it in Disco, though. It actually happens relatively frequently in the first two season. Obviously for seasons three and four things have changed and it’s no longer an issue.\n
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        Hell, in SNW while Kirk is on the *Enterprise* in “Subspace Rhapsody” he prepares some samples collected outside the ship to be beamed to engineering and thinks nothing of that instance of intra-ship beaming. I guess he forgot that whole event where people broke out into song by the time he was mid-way through his own five year mission.
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        Depends on the episode.\n
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        When Quark is abducted from Deep Space 9 in “House of Quark” he’s taken clear across the entire Federation and into the Klingon Empire in about a day. And then D’Ghor sends someone to the station to grab Rom and get him back to Qo’noS the next day.\n
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        Trek moves at the speed of plot.
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        But it’s not a trail of spores going through space, and nothing in the show would lead someone who’d been paying the slightest amount of attention to think that’s the case.\n
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        The mycelial network is a layer of subspace, which the spore drive allows them to access because the specific fungus they cultivate exists partially in subspace. Stamets makes that clear in “Choose Your Pain”.\n
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        Subspace is entirely made up facilitate the stories that Trek tells. It was first mentioned in “Mudd’s Women”, the fourth episode of TOS to be produced. It has since served as a means of instantaneous communication across lightyears, as well as long range imaging vis subspace telescope, such as in “The Nth Degree”. The sensors aboard the ships also operate via subspace, allowing them to detect things lightyears away, and detect things ahead of them while travelling faster than light.\n
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        And we learned in the TNG episode “Schisms” that subspace can support life, and even has beings living there. Or at least some aspects of subspace do.\n
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        The spore drive in based on the real science of mycology, and extrapolated through a Trek lens. Nothing about it requires any sort of special property that has not already been established as existing within older episodes of Trek.\n
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        The only one insulting your intelligence is yourself by believing you’re not creative enough to figure out how the spore drive fits into the larger world of Trek.
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        Star Trek has never been hard science fiction, though.\n
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        How is the spore drive any more fantastical than half of what happens in Trek?
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        Not for the most part.\n
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        I would probably be more annoyed by the Klingon cloaking devices in season one if not for the fact that ship had already sailed when ENT established that the Romulans already had that technology a hundred years before “Balance of Terror”, and oh, so did the Suliban and the XyrIllians whom the crew of the *Nx-01* also encountered.\n
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        But yeah, the idea of a technology existing but not being widely used doesn’t bump me at all. This is like getting mad that when you go into watch the latest Marvel movie and they’re not using [Smell-O-Vision](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smell-O-Vision). The technology exists! Hell, I can’t remember the last movie I saw in theatre that was 3d. Obviously they still exist, but it’s not a technology that’s really taken off once the gimmick lost its lustre. Or think about how many people, especially young people, prefer to text over talking on the phone.\n
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        The big one – relatively speaking, of course – in my mind is the site to site transporting.\n
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        However, we see in Disco, starting with “Context is for Kings”, that they can just order the computer to transport them from one room of the ship to another without hesitation.\n
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        > In Discovery, instead of honorable warriors, the klingons are a bunch of sneaky backstabbing and coward warriors.\n
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        Like they are in TOS?\n
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        > They also don’t look like klingons at all\n
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        Are you similarly upset by the change in appearance the occurred between TOS and TMP?\n
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        > and architecture\n
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        Architecture? I don’t know, the House Mo’Kai fortress we see in season two doesn’t seem all that out of place. The rounded towers of the capital city seen in ENT is a greater divergence than anything we see in Disco. But that’s also fine, because architectural styles change over time.\n
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        > the speak like their mouth is full of potatoes\n
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        And apparently, according to experts in the language, that’s the best Klingon has ever sounded on screen. Not really sure how that qualifies as a lore thing, though.\n
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        > they make ships out of coffins.\n
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        One ship. The home of a cult leader.
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        > Mushrooms have significantly less mysticism associated with them\n
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        Ah yes, psychedelics are famously not associated with mysticism.\n
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        > The closest comparison to the mycelial network is Yggdrasil, which is solidly in the high fantasy category rather than sci-fi.\n
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        The closest comparison is actual fungal networks that exist beneath forests supporting life through the transference of nutrients and biochemical communication, are some of the largest organisms on the planet, and are actual nonfiction science.\n
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        > All that is to say, I think the mycelial network needed more time to set up than the show gave it.\n
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        I think I can agree with you to some extent there. Stamets, by virtue of being standoffish and prickly when the character is introduced, is not the best at explaining things, and the concept could have used a better explanation early on to mitigate the response I’m complaining about with this post.
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        Yeah, I like Disco because I think they’re at least trying to do something, and that’s interesting to me. They don’t always succeed, but I respect the attempt. However, I fully get why people don’t like it.\n
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        Fuckin’ jeepers, this is grasping at straws.\n
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        There’s no “lore” regarding the spore drive or the uniforms, so nothing to disregard.\n
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        What specific lore about the Klingons was abandoned by Disco. Just one specific thing. Any single, specific thing.
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        Lorca’s not the only one who uses it in Disco, though. It actually happens relatively frequently in the first two season. Obviously for seasons three and four things have changed and it’s no longer an issue.\n
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        Hell, in SNW while Kirk is on the *Enterprise* in “Subspace Rhapsody” he prepares some samples collected outside the ship to be beamed to engineering and thinks nothing of that instance of intra-ship beaming. I guess he forgot that whole event where people broke out into song by the time he was mid-way through his own five year mission.
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      +body: "What specific lore has been disregarded?"
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        Depends on the episode.\n
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        Trek moves at the speed of plot.
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        But it’s not a trail of spores going through space, and nothing in the show would lead someone who’d been paying the slightest amount of attention to think that’s the case.\n
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        Star Trek has never been hard science fiction, though.\n
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        How is the spore drive any more fantastical than half of what happens in Trek?
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      +body: "You’re not wrong, but I do feel like that’s an over correction. They might as well have had text flashing at the bottom of the screen which read, “Sorry for the holograms, we didn’t realize how angry some of you would get.”"
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        Not for the most part.\n
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        But yeah, the idea of a technology existing but not being widely used doesn’t bump me at all. This is like getting mad that when you go into watch the latest Marvel movie and they’re not using [Smell-O-Vision](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smell-O-Vision). The technology exists! Hell, I can’t remember the last movie I saw in theatre that was 3d. Obviously they still exist, but it’s not a technology that’s really taken off once the gimmick lost its lustre. Or think about how many people, especially young people, prefer to text over talking on the phone.\n
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        So yeah, I don’t think anything is cheapened by the idea that a technology exists by is not widely used, and I do think it’s silly that anyone would make that argument.
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        The big one – relatively speaking, of course – in my mind is the site to site transporting.\n
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        However, we see in Disco, starting with “Context is for Kings”, that they can just order the computer to transport them from one room of the ship to another without hesitation.\n
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        It’s a minor quibble all things considered. And clearly something most of the Disco detractors aren’t even aware of.
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        > In Discovery, instead of honorable warriors, the klingons are a bunch of sneaky backstabbing and coward warriors.\n
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        Like they are in TOS?\n
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        > They also don’t look like klingons at all\n
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        Are you similarly upset by the change in appearance the occurred between TOS and TMP?\n
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        > and architecture\n
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        Architecture? I don’t know, the House Mo’Kai fortress we see in season two doesn’t seem all that out of place. The rounded towers of the capital city seen in ENT is a greater divergence than anything we see in Disco. But that’s also fine, because architectural styles change over time.\n
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        One ship. The home of a cult leader.
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          Yeah, I like Disco because I think they’re at least trying to do something, and that’s interesting to me. They don’t always succeed, but I respect the attempt. However, I fully get why people don’t like it.\n
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          My issue is with the silly complaints, not what amounts to a matter of taste.
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          Fuckin’ jeepers, this is grasping at straws.\n
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          There’s no “lore” regarding the spore drive or the uniforms, so nothing to disregard.\n
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          What specific lore about the Klingons was abandoned by Disco. Just one specific thing. Any single, specific thing.
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          Lorca’s not the only one who uses it in Disco, though. It actually happens relatively frequently in the first two season. Obviously for seasons three and four things have changed and it’s no longer an issue.\n
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          Depends on the episode.\n
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          When Quark is abducted from Deep Space 9 in “House of Quark” he’s taken clear across the entire Federation and into the Klingon Empire in about a day. And then D’Ghor sends someone to the station to grab Rom and get him back to Qo’noS the next day.\n
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          But it’s not a trail of spores going through space, and nothing in the show would lead someone who’d been paying the slightest amount of attention to think that’s the case.\n
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          The mycelial network is a layer of subspace, which the spore drive allows them to access because the specific fungus they cultivate exists partially in subspace. Stamets makes that clear in “Choose Your Pain”.\n
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          Subspace is entirely made up facilitate the stories that Trek tells. It was first mentioned in “Mudd’s Women”, the fourth episode of TOS to be produced. It has since served as a means of instantaneous communication across lightyears, as well as long range imaging vis subspace telescope, such as in “The Nth Degree”. The sensors aboard the ships also operate via subspace, allowing them to detect things lightyears away, and detect things ahead of them while travelling faster than light.\n
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          Star Trek has never been hard science fiction, though.\n
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        +body: "You’re not wrong, but I do feel like that’s an over correction. They might as well have had text flashing at the bottom of the screen which read, “Sorry for the holograms, we didn’t realize how angry some of you would get.”"
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          Not for the most part.\n
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          The big one – relatively speaking, of course – in my mind is the site to site transporting.\n
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          > In Discovery, instead of honorable warriors, the klingons are a bunch of sneaky backstabbing and coward warriors.\n
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          Like they are in TOS?\n
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          > They also don’t look like klingons at all\n
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          Are you similarly upset by the change in appearance the occurred between TOS and TMP?\n
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          > and architecture\n
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          Architecture? I don’t know, the House Mo’Kai fortress we see in season two doesn’t seem all that out of place. The rounded towers of the capital city seen in ENT is a greater divergence than anything we see in Disco. But that’s also fine, because architectural styles change over time.\n
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          One ship. The home of a cult leader.
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    > Mushrooms have significantly less mysticism associated with them\n
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    > The closest comparison to the mycelial network is Yggdrasil, which is solidly in the high fantasy category rather than sci-fi.\n
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    The closest comparison is actual fungal networks that exist beneath forests supporting life through the transference of nutrients and biochemical communication, are some of the largest organisms on the planet, and are actual nonfiction science.\n
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    I think I can agree with you to some extent there. Stamets, by virtue of being standoffish and prickly when the character is introduced, is not the best at explaining things, and the concept could have used a better explanation early on to mitigate the response I’m complaining about with this post.
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          Yeah, I like Disco because I think they’re at least trying to do something, and that’s interesting to me. They don’t always succeed, but I respect the attempt. However, I fully get why people don’t like it.\n
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          My issue is with the silly complaints, not what amounts to a matter of taste.
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          Fuckin’ jeepers, this is grasping at straws.\n
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          There’s no “lore” regarding the spore drive or the uniforms, so nothing to disregard.\n
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          What specific lore about the Klingons was abandoned by Disco. Just one specific thing. Any single, specific thing.
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          Lorca’s not the only one who uses it in Disco, though. It actually happens relatively frequently in the first two season. Obviously for seasons three and four things have changed and it’s no longer an issue.\n
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          Hell, in SNW while Kirk is on the *Enterprise* in “Subspace Rhapsody” he prepares some samples collected outside the ship to be beamed to engineering and thinks nothing of that instance of intra-ship beaming. I guess he forgot that whole event where people broke out into song by the time he was mid-way through his own five year mission.
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          Depends on the episode.\n
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          When Quark is abducted from Deep Space 9 in “House of Quark” he’s taken clear across the entire Federation and into the Klingon Empire in about a day. And then D’Ghor sends someone to the station to grab Rom and get him back to Qo’noS the next day.\n
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          Trek moves at the speed of plot.
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          But it’s not a trail of spores going through space, and nothing in the show would lead someone who’d been paying the slightest amount of attention to think that’s the case.\n
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          The mycelial network is a layer of subspace, which the spore drive allows them to access because the specific fungus they cultivate exists partially in subspace. Stamets makes that clear in “Choose Your Pain”.\n
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          Subspace is entirely made up facilitate the stories that Trek tells. It was first mentioned in “Mudd’s Women”, the fourth episode of TOS to be produced. It has since served as a means of instantaneous communication across lightyears, as well as long range imaging vis subspace telescope, such as in “The Nth Degree”. The sensors aboard the ships also operate via subspace, allowing them to detect things lightyears away, and detect things ahead of them while travelling faster than light.\n
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          And we learned in the TNG episode “Schisms” that subspace can support life, and even has beings living there. Or at least some aspects of subspace do.\n
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          The spore drive in based on the real science of mycology, and extrapolated through a Trek lens. Nothing about it requires any sort of special property that has not already been established as existing within older episodes of Trek.\n
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          The only one insulting your intelligence is yourself by believing you’re not creative enough to figure out how the spore drive fits into the larger world of Trek.
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          Star Trek has never been hard science fiction, though.\n
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          How is the spore drive any more fantastical than half of what happens in Trek?
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        +body: "You’re not wrong, but I do feel like that’s an over correction. They might as well have had text flashing at the bottom of the screen which read, “Sorry for the holograms, we didn’t realize how angry some of you would get.”"
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          Not for the most part.\n
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          I would probably be more annoyed by the Klingon cloaking devices in season one if not for the fact that ship had already sailed when ENT established that the Romulans already had that technology a hundred years before “Balance of Terror”, and oh, so did the Suliban and the XyrIllians whom the crew of the *Nx-01* also encountered.\n
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          But yeah, the idea of a technology existing but not being widely used doesn’t bump me at all. This is like getting mad that when you go into watch the latest Marvel movie and they’re not using [Smell-O-Vision](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smell-O-Vision). The technology exists! Hell, I can’t remember the last movie I saw in theatre that was 3d. Obviously they still exist, but it’s not a technology that’s really taken off once the gimmick lost its lustre. Or think about how many people, especially young people, prefer to text over talking on the phone.\n
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          So yeah, I don’t think anything is cheapened by the idea that a technology exists by is not widely used, and I do think it’s silly that anyone would make that argument.
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          The big one – relatively speaking, of course – in my mind is the site to site transporting.\n
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        +body: "Not to mention the specific spores required for the drive to connect with the mycelial network come from one specific type of fungus that exists at least partially within subspace and doesn’t seem to be all that common."
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          > In Discovery, instead of honorable warriors, the klingons are a bunch of sneaky backstabbing and coward warriors.\n
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          Like they are in TOS?\n
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          > They also don’t look like klingons at all\n
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          Are you similarly upset by the change in appearance the occurred between TOS and TMP?\n
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          > and architecture\n
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          Architecture? I don’t know, the House Mo’Kai fortress we see in season two doesn’t seem all that out of place. The rounded towers of the capital city seen in ENT is a greater divergence than anything we see in Disco. But that’s also fine, because architectural styles change over time.\n
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          > the speak like their mouth is full of potatoes\n
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          One ship. The home of a cult leader.
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    > Mushrooms have significantly less mysticism associated with them\n
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    Ah yes, psychedelics are famously not associated with mysticism.\n
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    > The closest comparison to the mycelial network is Yggdrasil, which is solidly in the high fantasy category rather than sci-fi.\n
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    The closest comparison is actual fungal networks that exist beneath forests supporting life through the transference of nutrients and biochemical communication, are some of the largest organisms on the planet, and are actual nonfiction science.\n
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    > All that is to say, I think the mycelial network needed more time to set up than the show gave it.\n
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    I think I can agree with you to some extent there. Stamets, by virtue of being standoffish and prickly when the character is introduced, is not the best at explaining things, and the concept could have used a better explanation early on to mitigate the response I’m complaining about with this post.
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          Yeah, I like Disco because I think they’re at least trying to do something, and that’s interesting to me. They don’t always succeed, but I respect the attempt. However, I fully get why people don’t like it.\n
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          Fuckin’ jeepers, this is grasping at straws.\n
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          There’s no “lore” regarding the spore drive or the uniforms, so nothing to disregard.\n
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          What specific lore about the Klingons was abandoned by Disco. Just one specific thing. Any single, specific thing.
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          Lorca’s not the only one who uses it in Disco, though. It actually happens relatively frequently in the first two season. Obviously for seasons three and four things have changed and it’s no longer an issue.\n
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        +body: "What specific lore has been disregarded?"
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          Depends on the episode.\n
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          When Quark is abducted from Deep Space 9 in “House of Quark” he’s taken clear across the entire Federation and into the Klingon Empire in about a day. And then D’Ghor sends someone to the station to grab Rom and get him back to Qo’noS the next day.\n
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          Trek moves at the speed of plot.
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          But it’s not a trail of spores going through space, and nothing in the show would lead someone who’d been paying the slightest amount of attention to think that’s the case.\n
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          The mycelial network is a layer of subspace, which the spore drive allows them to access because the specific fungus they cultivate exists partially in subspace. Stamets makes that clear in “Choose Your Pain”.\n
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          Subspace is entirely made up facilitate the stories that Trek tells. It was first mentioned in “Mudd’s Women”, the fourth episode of TOS to be produced. It has since served as a means of instantaneous communication across lightyears, as well as long range imaging vis subspace telescope, such as in “The Nth Degree”. The sensors aboard the ships also operate via subspace, allowing them to detect things lightyears away, and detect things ahead of them while travelling faster than light.\n
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          And we learned in the TNG episode “Schisms” that subspace can support life, and even has beings living there. Or at least some aspects of subspace do.\n
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          The spore drive in based on the real science of mycology, and extrapolated through a Trek lens. Nothing about it requires any sort of special property that has not already been established as existing within older episodes of Trek.\n
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          The only one insulting your intelligence is yourself by believing you’re not creative enough to figure out how the spore drive fits into the larger world of Trek.
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          Star Trek has never been hard science fiction, though.\n
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          How is the spore drive any more fantastical than half of what happens in Trek?
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        +body: "You’re not wrong, but I do feel like that’s an over correction. They might as well have had text flashing at the bottom of the screen which read, “Sorry for the holograms, we didn’t realize how angry some of you would get.”"
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          Not for the most part.\n
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          I would probably be more annoyed by the Klingon cloaking devices in season one if not for the fact that ship had already sailed when ENT established that the Romulans already had that technology a hundred years before “Balance of Terror”, and oh, so did the Suliban and the XyrIllians whom the crew of the *Nx-01* also encountered.\n
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          Not to mention there’s a throw away line in one episode of season one about how the sensors are picking up massive power readings but can’t actually pinpoint the ships, and in “Balance of Terror” Spock notes that the Romulans must have figured out a way to bend light around their ship without the tremendous power draw. I have to assume someone on the writing team was trying to square that circle.\n
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          But yeah, the idea of a technology existing but not being widely used doesn’t bump me at all. This is like getting mad that when you go into watch the latest Marvel movie and they’re not using [Smell-O-Vision](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smell-O-Vision). The technology exists! Hell, I can’t remember the last movie I saw in theatre that was 3d. Obviously they still exist, but it’s not a technology that’s really taken off once the gimmick lost its lustre. Or think about how many people, especially young people, prefer to text over talking on the phone.\n
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          So yeah, I don’t think anything is cheapened by the idea that a technology exists by is not widely used, and I do think it’s silly that anyone would make that argument.
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          The big one – relatively speaking, of course – in my mind is the site to site transporting.\n
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          In “Day of the Dove”, Kirk asks Spock, *”Intra-ship beaming, is it possible?”* and Spock rattled off a litany of reasons why it was considered too dangerous in all but the most necessary circumstances.\n
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          However, we see in Disco, starting with “Context is for Kings”, that they can just order the computer to transport them from one room of the ship to another without hesitation.\n
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          It’s a minor quibble all things considered. And clearly something most of the Disco detractors aren’t even aware of.
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        +body: "Not to mention the specific spores required for the drive to connect with the mycelial network come from one specific type of fungus that exists at least partially within subspace and doesn’t seem to be all that common."
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          > In Discovery, instead of honorable warriors, the klingons are a bunch of sneaky backstabbing and coward warriors.\n
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          Like they are in TOS?\n
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          > They also don’t look like klingons at all\n
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          Are you similarly upset by the change in appearance the occurred between TOS and TMP?\n
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          > and architecture\n
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          Architecture? I don’t know, the House Mo’Kai fortress we see in season two doesn’t seem all that out of place. The rounded towers of the capital city seen in ENT is a greater divergence than anything we see in Disco. But that’s also fine, because architectural styles change over time.\n
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          > the speak like their mouth is full of potatoes\n
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          > they make ships out of coffins.\n
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          One ship. The home of a cult leader.
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    > Mushrooms have significantly less mysticism associated with them\n
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    Ah yes, psychedelics are famously not associated with mysticism.\n
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    > The closest comparison to the mycelial network is Yggdrasil, which is solidly in the high fantasy category rather than sci-fi.\n
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    The closest comparison is actual fungal networks that exist beneath forests supporting life through the transference of nutrients and biochemical communication, are some of the largest organisms on the planet, and are actual nonfiction science.\n
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    > All that is to say, I think the mycelial network needed more time to set up than the show gave it.\n
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    I think I can agree with you to some extent there. Stamets, by virtue of being standoffish and prickly when the character is introduced, is not the best at explaining things, and the concept could have used a better explanation early on to mitigate the response I’m complaining about with this post.
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          > Mushrooms have significantly less mysticism associated with them\n
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          Fuckin’ jeepers, this is grasping at straws.\n
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          Depends on the episode.\n
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          But it’s not a trail of spores going through space, and nothing in the show would lead someone who’d been paying the slightest amount of attention to think that’s the case.\n
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          Star Trek has never been hard science fiction, though.\n
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        +body: "You’re not wrong, but I do feel like that’s an over correction. They might as well have had text flashing at the bottom of the screen which read, “Sorry for the holograms, we didn’t realize how angry some of you would get.”"
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          Not for the most part.\n
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          I would probably be more annoyed by the Klingon cloaking devices in season one if not for the fact that ship had already sailed when ENT established that the Romulans already had that technology a hundred years before “Balance of Terror”, and oh, so did the Suliban and the XyrIllians whom the crew of the *Nx-01* also encountered.\n
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          The big one – relatively speaking, of course – in my mind is the site to site transporting.\n
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        +body: "Not to mention the specific spores required for the drive to connect with the mycelial network come from one specific type of fungus that exists at least partially within subspace and doesn’t seem to be all that common."
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          > In Discovery, instead of honorable warriors, the klingons are a bunch of sneaky backstabbing and coward warriors.\n
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          Like they are in TOS?\n
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          > They also don’t look like klingons at all\n
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          Are you similarly upset by the change in appearance the occurred between TOS and TMP?\n
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          > and architecture\n
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          Architecture? I don’t know, the House Mo’Kai fortress we see in season two doesn’t seem all that out of place. The rounded towers of the capital city seen in ENT is a greater divergence than anything we see in Disco. But that’s also fine, because architectural styles change over time.\n
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          > the speak like their mouth is full of potatoes\n
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          > they make ships out of coffins.\n
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          One ship. The home of a cult leader.
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    Yeah, I like Disco because I think they’re at least trying to do something, and that’s interesting to me. They don’t always succeed, but I respect the attempt. However, I fully get why people don’t like it.\n
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    My issue is with the silly complaints, not what amounts to a matter of taste.
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          > Mushrooms have significantly less mysticism associated with them\n
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          Ah yes, psychedelics are famously not associated with mysticism.\n
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          > The closest comparison to the mycelial network is Yggdrasil, which is solidly in the high fantasy category rather than sci-fi.\n
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          The closest comparison is actual fungal networks that exist beneath forests supporting life through the transference of nutrients and biochemical communication, are some of the largest organisms on the planet, and are actual nonfiction science.\n
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          > All that is to say, I think the mycelial network needed more time to set up than the show gave it.\n
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          I think I can agree with you to some extent there. Stamets, by virtue of being standoffish and prickly when the character is introduced, is not the best at explaining things, and the concept could have used a better explanation early on to mitigate the response I’m complaining about with this post.
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          Fuckin’ jeepers, this is grasping at straws.\n
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          There’s no “lore” regarding the spore drive or the uniforms, so nothing to disregard.\n
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          What specific lore about the Klingons was abandoned by Disco. Just one specific thing. Any single, specific thing.
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          Lorca’s not the only one who uses it in Disco, though. It actually happens relatively frequently in the first two season. Obviously for seasons three and four things have changed and it’s no longer an issue.\n
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          Hell, in SNW while Kirk is on the *Enterprise* in “Subspace Rhapsody” he prepares some samples collected outside the ship to be beamed to engineering and thinks nothing of that instance of intra-ship beaming. I guess he forgot that whole event where people broke out into song by the time he was mid-way through his own five year mission.
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          Depends on the episode.\n
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          When Quark is abducted from Deep Space 9 in “House of Quark” he’s taken clear across the entire Federation and into the Klingon Empire in about a day. And then D’Ghor sends someone to the station to grab Rom and get him back to Qo’noS the next day.\n
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          But it’s not a trail of spores going through space, and nothing in the show would lead someone who’d been paying the slightest amount of attention to think that’s the case.\n
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          The mycelial network is a layer of subspace, which the spore drive allows them to access because the specific fungus they cultivate exists partially in subspace. Stamets makes that clear in “Choose Your Pain”.\n
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          Subspace is entirely made up facilitate the stories that Trek tells. It was first mentioned in “Mudd’s Women”, the fourth episode of TOS to be produced. It has since served as a means of instantaneous communication across lightyears, as well as long range imaging vis subspace telescope, such as in “The Nth Degree”. The sensors aboard the ships also operate via subspace, allowing them to detect things lightyears away, and detect things ahead of them while travelling faster than light.\n
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          And we learned in the TNG episode “Schisms” that subspace can support life, and even has beings living there. Or at least some aspects of subspace do.\n
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          The spore drive in based on the real science of mycology, and extrapolated through a Trek lens. Nothing about it requires any sort of special property that has not already been established as existing within older episodes of Trek.\n
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          The only one insulting your intelligence is yourself by believing you’re not creative enough to figure out how the spore drive fits into the larger world of Trek.
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          Star Trek has never been hard science fiction, though.\n
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          How is the spore drive any more fantastical than half of what happens in Trek?
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          Not for the most part.\n
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          I would probably be more annoyed by the Klingon cloaking devices in season one if not for the fact that ship had already sailed when ENT established that the Romulans already had that technology a hundred years before “Balance of Terror”, and oh, so did the Suliban and the XyrIllians whom the crew of the *Nx-01* also encountered.\n
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          The big one – relatively speaking, of course – in my mind is the site to site transporting.\n
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          However, we see in Disco, starting with “Context is for Kings”, that they can just order the computer to transport them from one room of the ship to another without hesitation.\n
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        +body: "Not to mention the specific spores required for the drive to connect with the mycelial network come from one specific type of fungus that exists at least partially within subspace and doesn’t seem to be all that common."
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          > In Discovery, instead of honorable warriors, the klingons are a bunch of sneaky backstabbing and coward warriors.\n
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          Like they are in TOS?\n
          \n
          > They also don’t look like klingons at all\n
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          Are you similarly upset by the change in appearance the occurred between TOS and TMP?\n
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          > and architecture\n
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          Architecture? I don’t know, the House Mo’Kai fortress we see in season two doesn’t seem all that out of place. The rounded towers of the capital city seen in ENT is a greater divergence than anything we see in Disco. But that’s also fine, because architectural styles change over time.\n
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          > the speak like their mouth is full of potatoes\n
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          > they make ships out of coffins.\n
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          One ship. The home of a cult leader.
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    Yeah, I like Disco because I think they’re at least trying to do something, and that’s interesting to me. They don’t always succeed, but I respect the attempt. However, I fully get why people don’t like it.\n
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    My issue is with the silly complaints, not what amounts to a matter of taste.
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          > Mushrooms have significantly less mysticism associated with them\n
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          Ah yes, psychedelics are famously not associated with mysticism.\n
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          > The closest comparison to the mycelial network is Yggdrasil, which is solidly in the high fantasy category rather than sci-fi.\n
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          The closest comparison is actual fungal networks that exist beneath forests supporting life through the transference of nutrients and biochemical communication, are some of the largest organisms on the planet, and are actual nonfiction science.\n
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          I think I can agree with you to some extent there. Stamets, by virtue of being standoffish and prickly when the character is introduced, is not the best at explaining things, and the concept could have used a better explanation early on to mitigate the response I’m complaining about with this post.
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          Fuckin’ jeepers, this is grasping at straws.\n
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          There’s no “lore” regarding the spore drive or the uniforms, so nothing to disregard.\n
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          Lorca’s not the only one who uses it in Disco, though. It actually happens relatively frequently in the first two season. Obviously for seasons three and four things have changed and it’s no longer an issue.\n
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          Hell, in SNW while Kirk is on the *Enterprise* in “Subspace Rhapsody” he prepares some samples collected outside the ship to be beamed to engineering and thinks nothing of that instance of intra-ship beaming. I guess he forgot that whole event where people broke out into song by the time he was mid-way through his own five year mission.
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        +body: "What specific lore has been disregarded?"
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          Depends on the episode.\n
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          When Quark is abducted from Deep Space 9 in “House of Quark” he’s taken clear across the entire Federation and into the Klingon Empire in about a day. And then D’Ghor sends someone to the station to grab Rom and get him back to Qo’noS the next day.\n
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          Trek moves at the speed of plot.
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          But it’s not a trail of spores going through space, and nothing in the show would lead someone who’d been paying the slightest amount of attention to think that’s the case.\n
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          The mycelial network is a layer of subspace, which the spore drive allows them to access because the specific fungus they cultivate exists partially in subspace. Stamets makes that clear in “Choose Your Pain”.\n
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          Subspace is entirely made up facilitate the stories that Trek tells. It was first mentioned in “Mudd’s Women”, the fourth episode of TOS to be produced. It has since served as a means of instantaneous communication across lightyears, as well as long range imaging vis subspace telescope, such as in “The Nth Degree”. The sensors aboard the ships also operate via subspace, allowing them to detect things lightyears away, and detect things ahead of them while travelling faster than light.\n
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          And we learned in the TNG episode “Schisms” that subspace can support life, and even has beings living there. Or at least some aspects of subspace do.\n
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          The spore drive in based on the real science of mycology, and extrapolated through a Trek lens. Nothing about it requires any sort of special property that has not already been established as existing within older episodes of Trek.\n
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          The only one insulting your intelligence is yourself by believing you’re not creative enough to figure out how the spore drive fits into the larger world of Trek.
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          Star Trek has never been hard science fiction, though.\n
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          How is the spore drive any more fantastical than half of what happens in Trek?
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        +body: "You’re not wrong, but I do feel like that’s an over correction. They might as well have had text flashing at the bottom of the screen which read, “Sorry for the holograms, we didn’t realize how angry some of you would get.”"
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          Not for the most part.\n
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          I would probably be more annoyed by the Klingon cloaking devices in season one if not for the fact that ship had already sailed when ENT established that the Romulans already had that technology a hundred years before “Balance of Terror”, and oh, so did the Suliban and the XyrIllians whom the crew of the *Nx-01* also encountered.\n
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          Not to mention there’s a throw away line in one episode of season one about how the sensors are picking up massive power readings but can’t actually pinpoint the ships, and in “Balance of Terror” Spock notes that the Romulans must have figured out a way to bend light around their ship without the tremendous power draw. I have to assume someone on the writing team was trying to square that circle.\n
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          But yeah, the idea of a technology existing but not being widely used doesn’t bump me at all. This is like getting mad that when you go into watch the latest Marvel movie and they’re not using [Smell-O-Vision](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smell-O-Vision). The technology exists! Hell, I can’t remember the last movie I saw in theatre that was 3d. Obviously they still exist, but it’s not a technology that’s really taken off once the gimmick lost its lustre. Or think about how many people, especially young people, prefer to text over talking on the phone.\n
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          So yeah, I don’t think anything is cheapened by the idea that a technology exists by is not widely used, and I do think it’s silly that anyone would make that argument.
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          The big one – relatively speaking, of course – in my mind is the site to site transporting.\n
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          In “Day of the Dove”, Kirk asks Spock, *”Intra-ship beaming, is it possible?”* and Spock rattled off a litany of reasons why it was considered too dangerous in all but the most necessary circumstances.\n
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          However, we see in Disco, starting with “Context is for Kings”, that they can just order the computer to transport them from one room of the ship to another without hesitation.\n
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          It’s a minor quibble all things considered. And clearly something most of the Disco detractors aren’t even aware of.
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        +body: "Not to mention the specific spores required for the drive to connect with the mycelial network come from one specific type of fungus that exists at least partially within subspace and doesn’t seem to be all that common."
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          > In Discovery, instead of honorable warriors, the klingons are a bunch of sneaky backstabbing and coward warriors.\n
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          Like they are in TOS?\n
          \n
          > They also don’t look like klingons at all\n
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          Are you similarly upset by the change in appearance the occurred between TOS and TMP?\n
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          > and architecture\n
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          Architecture? I don’t know, the House Mo’Kai fortress we see in season two doesn’t seem all that out of place. The rounded towers of the capital city seen in ENT is a greater divergence than anything we see in Disco. But that’s also fine, because architectural styles change over time.\n
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          > they make ships out of coffins.\n
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          One ship. The home of a cult leader.
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    Yeah, I like Disco because I think they’re at least trying to do something, and that’s interesting to me. They don’t always succeed, but I respect the attempt. However, I fully get why people don’t like it.\n
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    My issue is with the silly complaints, not what amounts to a matter of taste.
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          > Mushrooms have significantly less mysticism associated with them\n
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          Ah yes, psychedelics are famously not associated with mysticism.\n
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          > The closest comparison to the mycelial network is Yggdrasil, which is solidly in the high fantasy category rather than sci-fi.\n
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          The closest comparison is actual fungal networks that exist beneath forests supporting life through the transference of nutrients and biochemical communication, are some of the largest organisms on the planet, and are actual nonfiction science.\n
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          > All that is to say, I think the mycelial network needed more time to set up than the show gave it.\n
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          I think I can agree with you to some extent there. Stamets, by virtue of being standoffish and prickly when the character is introduced, is not the best at explaining things, and the concept could have used a better explanation early on to mitigate the response I’m complaining about with this post.
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          Yeah, I like Disco because I think they’re at least trying to do something, and that’s interesting to me. They don’t always succeed, but I respect the attempt. However, I fully get why people don’t like it.\n
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          Lorca’s not the only one who uses it in Disco, though. It actually happens relatively frequently in the first two season. Obviously for seasons three and four things have changed and it’s no longer an issue.\n
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          Hell, in SNW while Kirk is on the *Enterprise* in “Subspace Rhapsody” he prepares some samples collected outside the ship to be beamed to engineering and thinks nothing of that instance of intra-ship beaming. I guess he forgot that whole event where people broke out into song by the time he was mid-way through his own five year mission.
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          Depends on the episode.\n
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          But it’s not a trail of spores going through space, and nothing in the show would lead someone who’d been paying the slightest amount of attention to think that’s the case.\n
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          The mycelial network is a layer of subspace, which the spore drive allows them to access because the specific fungus they cultivate exists partially in subspace. Stamets makes that clear in “Choose Your Pain”.\n
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          Subspace is entirely made up facilitate the stories that Trek tells. It was first mentioned in “Mudd’s Women”, the fourth episode of TOS to be produced. It has since served as a means of instantaneous communication across lightyears, as well as long range imaging vis subspace telescope, such as in “The Nth Degree”. The sensors aboard the ships also operate via subspace, allowing them to detect things lightyears away, and detect things ahead of them while travelling faster than light.\n
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          And we learned in the TNG episode “Schisms” that subspace can support life, and even has beings living there. Or at least some aspects of subspace do.\n
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          The spore drive in based on the real science of mycology, and extrapolated through a Trek lens. Nothing about it requires any sort of special property that has not already been established as existing within older episodes of Trek.\n
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          The only one insulting your intelligence is yourself by believing you’re not creative enough to figure out how the spore drive fits into the larger world of Trek.
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          Star Trek has never been hard science fiction, though.\n
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          How is the spore drive any more fantastical than half of what happens in Trek?
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        +body: "You’re not wrong, but I do feel like that’s an over correction. They might as well have had text flashing at the bottom of the screen which read, “Sorry for the holograms, we didn’t realize how angry some of you would get.”"
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          Not for the most part.\n
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          I would probably be more annoyed by the Klingon cloaking devices in season one if not for the fact that ship had already sailed when ENT established that the Romulans already had that technology a hundred years before “Balance of Terror”, and oh, so did the Suliban and the XyrIllians whom the crew of the *Nx-01* also encountered.\n
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          So yeah, I don’t think anything is cheapened by the idea that a technology exists by is not widely used, and I do think it’s silly that anyone would make that argument.
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          The big one – relatively speaking, of course – in my mind is the site to site transporting.\n
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          In “Day of the Dove”, Kirk asks Spock, *”Intra-ship beaming, is it possible?”* and Spock rattled off a litany of reasons why it was considered too dangerous in all but the most necessary circumstances.\n
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          However, we see in Disco, starting with “Context is for Kings”, that they can just order the computer to transport them from one room of the ship to another without hesitation.\n
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        +body: "Not to mention the specific spores required for the drive to connect with the mycelial network come from one specific type of fungus that exists at least partially within subspace and doesn’t seem to be all that common."
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          > In Discovery, instead of honorable warriors, the klingons are a bunch of sneaky backstabbing and coward warriors.\n
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          Like they are in TOS?\n
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          > They also don’t look like klingons at all\n
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          Are you similarly upset by the change in appearance the occurred between TOS and TMP?\n
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          > and architecture\n
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          Architecture? I don’t know, the House Mo’Kai fortress we see in season two doesn’t seem all that out of place. The rounded towers of the capital city seen in ENT is a greater divergence than anything we see in Disco. But that’s also fine, because architectural styles change over time.\n
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          > the speak like their mouth is full of potatoes\n
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          And apparently, according to experts in the language, that’s the best Klingon has ever sounded on screen. Not really sure how that qualifies as a lore thing, though.\n
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          > they make ships out of coffins.\n
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          One ship. The home of a cult leader.
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    Fuckin’ jeepers, this is grasping at straws.\n
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    There’s no “lore” regarding the spore drive or the uniforms, so nothing to disregard.\n
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    What specific lore about the Klingons was abandoned by Disco. Just one specific thing. Any single, specific thing.
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          > Mushrooms have significantly less mysticism associated with them\n
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          Ah yes, psychedelics are famously not associated with mysticism.\n
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          > The closest comparison to the mycelial network is Yggdrasil, which is solidly in the high fantasy category rather than sci-fi.\n
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          The closest comparison is actual fungal networks that exist beneath forests supporting life through the transference of nutrients and biochemical communication, are some of the largest organisms on the planet, and are actual nonfiction science.\n
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          > All that is to say, I think the mycelial network needed more time to set up than the show gave it.\n
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          I think I can agree with you to some extent there. Stamets, by virtue of being standoffish and prickly when the character is introduced, is not the best at explaining things, and the concept could have used a better explanation early on to mitigate the response I’m complaining about with this post.
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          Yeah, I like Disco because I think they’re at least trying to do something, and that’s interesting to me. They don’t always succeed, but I respect the attempt. However, I fully get why people don’t like it.\n
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          My issue is with the silly complaints, not what amounts to a matter of taste.
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          Lorca’s not the only one who uses it in Disco, though. It actually happens relatively frequently in the first two season. Obviously for seasons three and four things have changed and it’s no longer an issue.\n
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          Hell, in SNW while Kirk is on the *Enterprise* in “Subspace Rhapsody” he prepares some samples collected outside the ship to be beamed to engineering and thinks nothing of that instance of intra-ship beaming. I guess he forgot that whole event where people broke out into song by the time he was mid-way through his own five year mission.
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          Depends on the episode.\n
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          But it’s not a trail of spores going through space, and nothing in the show would lead someone who’d been paying the slightest amount of attention to think that’s the case.\n
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          The mycelial network is a layer of subspace, which the spore drive allows them to access because the specific fungus they cultivate exists partially in subspace. Stamets makes that clear in “Choose Your Pain”.\n
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          Subspace is entirely made up facilitate the stories that Trek tells. It was first mentioned in “Mudd’s Women”, the fourth episode of TOS to be produced. It has since served as a means of instantaneous communication across lightyears, as well as long range imaging vis subspace telescope, such as in “The Nth Degree”. The sensors aboard the ships also operate via subspace, allowing them to detect things lightyears away, and detect things ahead of them while travelling faster than light.\n
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          And we learned in the TNG episode “Schisms” that subspace can support life, and even has beings living there. Or at least some aspects of subspace do.\n
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          The spore drive in based on the real science of mycology, and extrapolated through a Trek lens. Nothing about it requires any sort of special property that has not already been established as existing within older episodes of Trek.\n
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          Star Trek has never been hard science fiction, though.\n
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        +body: "You’re not wrong, but I do feel like that’s an over correction. They might as well have had text flashing at the bottom of the screen which read, “Sorry for the holograms, we didn’t realize how angry some of you would get.”"
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          Not for the most part.\n
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          The big one – relatively speaking, of course – in my mind is the site to site transporting.\n
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        +body: "Not to mention the specific spores required for the drive to connect with the mycelial network come from one specific type of fungus that exists at least partially within subspace and doesn’t seem to be all that common."
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          > In Discovery, instead of honorable warriors, the klingons are a bunch of sneaky backstabbing and coward warriors.\n
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          Like they are in TOS?\n
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          > They also don’t look like klingons at all\n
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          Are you similarly upset by the change in appearance the occurred between TOS and TMP?\n
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          > and architecture\n
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          Architecture? I don’t know, the House Mo’Kai fortress we see in season two doesn’t seem all that out of place. The rounded towers of the capital city seen in ENT is a greater divergence than anything we see in Disco. But that’s also fine, because architectural styles change over time.\n
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          > the speak like their mouth is full of potatoes\n
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          > they make ships out of coffins.\n
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          One ship. The home of a cult leader.
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    Fuckin’ jeepers, this is grasping at straws.\n
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    There’s no “lore” regarding the spore drive or the uniforms, so nothing to disregard.\n
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    What specific lore about the Klingons was abandoned by Disco. Just one specific thing. Any single, specific thing.
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          > Mushrooms have significantly less mysticism associated with them\n
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          Ah yes, psychedelics are famously not associated with mysticism.\n
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          > The closest comparison to the mycelial network is Yggdrasil, which is solidly in the high fantasy category rather than sci-fi.\n
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          The closest comparison is actual fungal networks that exist beneath forests supporting life through the transference of nutrients and biochemical communication, are some of the largest organisms on the planet, and are actual nonfiction science.\n
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          I think I can agree with you to some extent there. Stamets, by virtue of being standoffish and prickly when the character is introduced, is not the best at explaining things, and the concept could have used a better explanation early on to mitigate the response I’m complaining about with this post.
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          Yeah, I like Disco because I think they’re at least trying to do something, and that’s interesting to me. They don’t always succeed, but I respect the attempt. However, I fully get why people don’t like it.\n
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          Lorca’s not the only one who uses it in Disco, though. It actually happens relatively frequently in the first two season. Obviously for seasons three and four things have changed and it’s no longer an issue.\n
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          Hell, in SNW while Kirk is on the *Enterprise* in “Subspace Rhapsody” he prepares some samples collected outside the ship to be beamed to engineering and thinks nothing of that instance of intra-ship beaming. I guess he forgot that whole event where people broke out into song by the time he was mid-way through his own five year mission.
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        +body: "What specific lore has been disregarded?"
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          Depends on the episode.\n
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          When Quark is abducted from Deep Space 9 in “House of Quark” he’s taken clear across the entire Federation and into the Klingon Empire in about a day. And then D’Ghor sends someone to the station to grab Rom and get him back to Qo’noS the next day.\n
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          Trek moves at the speed of plot.
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          But it’s not a trail of spores going through space, and nothing in the show would lead someone who’d been paying the slightest amount of attention to think that’s the case.\n
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          The mycelial network is a layer of subspace, which the spore drive allows them to access because the specific fungus they cultivate exists partially in subspace. Stamets makes that clear in “Choose Your Pain”.\n
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          Subspace is entirely made up facilitate the stories that Trek tells. It was first mentioned in “Mudd’s Women”, the fourth episode of TOS to be produced. It has since served as a means of instantaneous communication across lightyears, as well as long range imaging vis subspace telescope, such as in “The Nth Degree”. The sensors aboard the ships also operate via subspace, allowing them to detect things lightyears away, and detect things ahead of them while travelling faster than light.\n
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          And we learned in the TNG episode “Schisms” that subspace can support life, and even has beings living there. Or at least some aspects of subspace do.\n
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          The spore drive in based on the real science of mycology, and extrapolated through a Trek lens. Nothing about it requires any sort of special property that has not already been established as existing within older episodes of Trek.\n
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          The only one insulting your intelligence is yourself by believing you’re not creative enough to figure out how the spore drive fits into the larger world of Trek.
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          Star Trek has never been hard science fiction, though.\n
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          How is the spore drive any more fantastical than half of what happens in Trek?
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        +body: "You’re not wrong, but I do feel like that’s an over correction. They might as well have had text flashing at the bottom of the screen which read, “Sorry for the holograms, we didn’t realize how angry some of you would get.”"
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          Not for the most part.\n
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          I would probably be more annoyed by the Klingon cloaking devices in season one if not for the fact that ship had already sailed when ENT established that the Romulans already had that technology a hundred years before “Balance of Terror”, and oh, so did the Suliban and the XyrIllians whom the crew of the *Nx-01* also encountered.\n
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          Not to mention there’s a throw away line in one episode of season one about how the sensors are picking up massive power readings but can’t actually pinpoint the ships, and in “Balance of Terror” Spock notes that the Romulans must have figured out a way to bend light around their ship without the tremendous power draw. I have to assume someone on the writing team was trying to square that circle.\n
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          But yeah, the idea of a technology existing but not being widely used doesn’t bump me at all. This is like getting mad that when you go into watch the latest Marvel movie and they’re not using [Smell-O-Vision](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smell-O-Vision). The technology exists! Hell, I can’t remember the last movie I saw in theatre that was 3d. Obviously they still exist, but it’s not a technology that’s really taken off once the gimmick lost its lustre. Or think about how many people, especially young people, prefer to text over talking on the phone.\n
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          So yeah, I don’t think anything is cheapened by the idea that a technology exists by is not widely used, and I do think it’s silly that anyone would make that argument.
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          The big one – relatively speaking, of course – in my mind is the site to site transporting.\n
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          In “Day of the Dove”, Kirk asks Spock, *”Intra-ship beaming, is it possible?”* and Spock rattled off a litany of reasons why it was considered too dangerous in all but the most necessary circumstances.\n
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          However, we see in Disco, starting with “Context is for Kings”, that they can just order the computer to transport them from one room of the ship to another without hesitation.\n
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          It’s a minor quibble all things considered. And clearly something most of the Disco detractors aren’t even aware of.
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          > In Discovery, instead of honorable warriors, the klingons are a bunch of sneaky backstabbing and coward warriors.\n
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          Like they are in TOS?\n
          \n
          > They also don’t look like klingons at all\n
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          Are you similarly upset by the change in appearance the occurred between TOS and TMP?\n
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          > and architecture\n
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          Architecture? I don’t know, the House Mo’Kai fortress we see in season two doesn’t seem all that out of place. The rounded towers of the capital city seen in ENT is a greater divergence than anything we see in Disco. But that’s also fine, because architectural styles change over time.\n
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          > the speak like their mouth is full of potatoes\n
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          > they make ships out of coffins.\n
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          One ship. The home of a cult leader.
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    Fuckin’ jeepers, this is grasping at straws.\n
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    There’s no “lore” regarding the spore drive or the uniforms, so nothing to disregard.\n
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    What specific lore about the Klingons was abandoned by Disco. Just one specific thing. Any single, specific thing.
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          > Mushrooms have significantly less mysticism associated with them\n
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          Ah yes, psychedelics are famously not associated with mysticism.\n
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          > The closest comparison to the mycelial network is Yggdrasil, which is solidly in the high fantasy category rather than sci-fi.\n
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          The closest comparison is actual fungal networks that exist beneath forests supporting life through the transference of nutrients and biochemical communication, are some of the largest organisms on the planet, and are actual nonfiction science.\n
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          > All that is to say, I think the mycelial network needed more time to set up than the show gave it.\n
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          I think I can agree with you to some extent there. Stamets, by virtue of being standoffish and prickly when the character is introduced, is not the best at explaining things, and the concept could have used a better explanation early on to mitigate the response I’m complaining about with this post.
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          Yeah, I like Disco because I think they’re at least trying to do something, and that’s interesting to me. They don’t always succeed, but I respect the attempt. However, I fully get why people don’t like it.\n
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          My issue is with the silly complaints, not what amounts to a matter of taste.
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          Fuckin’ jeepers, this is grasping at straws.\n
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          There’s no “lore” regarding the spore drive or the uniforms, so nothing to disregard.\n
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          What specific lore about the Klingons was abandoned by Disco. Just one specific thing. Any single, specific thing.
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          Depends on the episode.\n
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          When Quark is abducted from Deep Space 9 in “House of Quark” he’s taken clear across the entire Federation and into the Klingon Empire in about a day. And then D’Ghor sends someone to the station to grab Rom and get him back to Qo’noS the next day.\n
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          But it’s not a trail of spores going through space, and nothing in the show would lead someone who’d been paying the slightest amount of attention to think that’s the case.\n
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          The mycelial network is a layer of subspace, which the spore drive allows them to access because the specific fungus they cultivate exists partially in subspace. Stamets makes that clear in “Choose Your Pain”.\n
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          Subspace is entirely made up facilitate the stories that Trek tells. It was first mentioned in “Mudd’s Women”, the fourth episode of TOS to be produced. It has since served as a means of instantaneous communication across lightyears, as well as long range imaging vis subspace telescope, such as in “The Nth Degree”. The sensors aboard the ships also operate via subspace, allowing them to detect things lightyears away, and detect things ahead of them while travelling faster than light.\n
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          Star Trek has never been hard science fiction, though.\n
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          How is the spore drive any more fantastical than half of what happens in Trek?
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        +body: "You’re not wrong, but I do feel like that’s an over correction. They might as well have had text flashing at the bottom of the screen which read, “Sorry for the holograms, we didn’t realize how angry some of you would get.”"
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          Not for the most part.\n
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          I would probably be more annoyed by the Klingon cloaking devices in season one if not for the fact that ship had already sailed when ENT established that the Romulans already had that technology a hundred years before “Balance of Terror”, and oh, so did the Suliban and the XyrIllians whom the crew of the *Nx-01* also encountered.\n
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          So yeah, I don’t think anything is cheapened by the idea that a technology exists by is not widely used, and I do think it’s silly that anyone would make that argument.
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          The big one – relatively speaking, of course – in my mind is the site to site transporting.\n
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        +body: "Not to mention the specific spores required for the drive to connect with the mycelial network come from one specific type of fungus that exists at least partially within subspace and doesn’t seem to be all that common."
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          > In Discovery, instead of honorable warriors, the klingons are a bunch of sneaky backstabbing and coward warriors.\n
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          Like they are in TOS?\n
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          > They also don’t look like klingons at all\n
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          Are you similarly upset by the change in appearance the occurred between TOS and TMP?\n
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          > and architecture\n
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          Architecture? I don’t know, the House Mo’Kai fortress we see in season two doesn’t seem all that out of place. The rounded towers of the capital city seen in ENT is a greater divergence than anything we see in Disco. But that’s also fine, because architectural styles change over time.\n
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          > the speak like their mouth is full of potatoes\n
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          > they make ships out of coffins.\n
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          One ship. The home of a cult leader.
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    Lorca’s not the only one who uses it in Disco, though. It actually happens relatively frequently in the first two season. Obviously for seasons three and four things have changed and it’s no longer an issue.\n
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    Hell, in SNW while Kirk is on the *Enterprise* in “Subspace Rhapsody” he prepares some samples collected outside the ship to be beamed to engineering and thinks nothing of that instance of intra-ship beaming. I guess he forgot that whole event where people broke out into song by the time he was mid-way through his own five year mission.
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          > Mushrooms have significantly less mysticism associated with them\n
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          Ah yes, psychedelics are famously not associated with mysticism.\n
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          > The closest comparison to the mycelial network is Yggdrasil, which is solidly in the high fantasy category rather than sci-fi.\n
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          The closest comparison is actual fungal networks that exist beneath forests supporting life through the transference of nutrients and biochemical communication, are some of the largest organisms on the planet, and are actual nonfiction science.\n
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          > All that is to say, I think the mycelial network needed more time to set up than the show gave it.\n
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          I think I can agree with you to some extent there. Stamets, by virtue of being standoffish and prickly when the character is introduced, is not the best at explaining things, and the concept could have used a better explanation early on to mitigate the response I’m complaining about with this post.
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          Yeah, I like Disco because I think they’re at least trying to do something, and that’s interesting to me. They don’t always succeed, but I respect the attempt. However, I fully get why people don’t like it.\n
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          Fuckin’ jeepers, this is grasping at straws.\n
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          There’s no “lore” regarding the spore drive or the uniforms, so nothing to disregard.\n
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          What specific lore about the Klingons was abandoned by Disco. Just one specific thing. Any single, specific thing.
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          Depends on the episode.\n
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          But it’s not a trail of spores going through space, and nothing in the show would lead someone who’d been paying the slightest amount of attention to think that’s the case.\n
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          Star Trek has never been hard science fiction, though.\n
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        +body: "You’re not wrong, but I do feel like that’s an over correction. They might as well have had text flashing at the bottom of the screen which read, “Sorry for the holograms, we didn’t realize how angry some of you would get.”"
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          Not for the most part.\n
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          The big one – relatively speaking, of course – in my mind is the site to site transporting.\n
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          > In Discovery, instead of honorable warriors, the klingons are a bunch of sneaky backstabbing and coward warriors.\n
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          Like they are in TOS?\n
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          > They also don’t look like klingons at all\n
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          Are you similarly upset by the change in appearance the occurred between TOS and TMP?\n
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          > and architecture\n
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          Architecture? I don’t know, the House Mo’Kai fortress we see in season two doesn’t seem all that out of place. The rounded towers of the capital city seen in ENT is a greater divergence than anything we see in Disco. But that’s also fine, because architectural styles change over time.\n
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          One ship. The home of a cult leader.
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    Lorca’s not the only one who uses it in Disco, though. It actually happens relatively frequently in the first two season. Obviously for seasons three and four things have changed and it’s no longer an issue.\n
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          > Mushrooms have significantly less mysticism associated with them\n
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          Ah yes, psychedelics are famously not associated with mysticism.\n
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          > The closest comparison to the mycelial network is Yggdrasil, which is solidly in the high fantasy category rather than sci-fi.\n
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          The closest comparison is actual fungal networks that exist beneath forests supporting life through the transference of nutrients and biochemical communication, are some of the largest organisms on the planet, and are actual nonfiction science.\n
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          I think I can agree with you to some extent there. Stamets, by virtue of being standoffish and prickly when the character is introduced, is not the best at explaining things, and the concept could have used a better explanation early on to mitigate the response I’m complaining about with this post.
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          Yeah, I like Disco because I think they’re at least trying to do something, and that’s interesting to me. They don’t always succeed, but I respect the attempt. However, I fully get why people don’t like it.\n
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          My issue is with the silly complaints, not what amounts to a matter of taste.
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          Fuckin’ jeepers, this is grasping at straws.\n
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          There’s no “lore” regarding the spore drive or the uniforms, so nothing to disregard.\n
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          What specific lore about the Klingons was abandoned by Disco. Just one specific thing. Any single, specific thing.
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        +body: "What specific lore has been disregarded?"
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          Depends on the episode.\n
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          When Quark is abducted from Deep Space 9 in “House of Quark” he’s taken clear across the entire Federation and into the Klingon Empire in about a day. And then D’Ghor sends someone to the station to grab Rom and get him back to Qo’noS the next day.\n
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          Trek moves at the speed of plot.
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          But it’s not a trail of spores going through space, and nothing in the show would lead someone who’d been paying the slightest amount of attention to think that’s the case.\n
          \n
          The mycelial network is a layer of subspace, which the spore drive allows them to access because the specific fungus they cultivate exists partially in subspace. Stamets makes that clear in “Choose Your Pain”.\n
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          Subspace is entirely made up facilitate the stories that Trek tells. It was first mentioned in “Mudd’s Women”, the fourth episode of TOS to be produced. It has since served as a means of instantaneous communication across lightyears, as well as long range imaging vis subspace telescope, such as in “The Nth Degree”. The sensors aboard the ships also operate via subspace, allowing them to detect things lightyears away, and detect things ahead of them while travelling faster than light.\n
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          And we learned in the TNG episode “Schisms” that subspace can support life, and even has beings living there. Or at least some aspects of subspace do.\n
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          The spore drive in based on the real science of mycology, and extrapolated through a Trek lens. Nothing about it requires any sort of special property that has not already been established as existing within older episodes of Trek.\n
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          The only one insulting your intelligence is yourself by believing you’re not creative enough to figure out how the spore drive fits into the larger world of Trek.
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          Star Trek has never been hard science fiction, though.\n
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          How is the spore drive any more fantastical than half of what happens in Trek?
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        +body: "You’re not wrong, but I do feel like that’s an over correction. They might as well have had text flashing at the bottom of the screen which read, “Sorry for the holograms, we didn’t realize how angry some of you would get.”"
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          Not for the most part.\n
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          I would probably be more annoyed by the Klingon cloaking devices in season one if not for the fact that ship had already sailed when ENT established that the Romulans already had that technology a hundred years before “Balance of Terror”, and oh, so did the Suliban and the XyrIllians whom the crew of the *Nx-01* also encountered.\n
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          Not to mention there’s a throw away line in one episode of season one about how the sensors are picking up massive power readings but can’t actually pinpoint the ships, and in “Balance of Terror” Spock notes that the Romulans must have figured out a way to bend light around their ship without the tremendous power draw. I have to assume someone on the writing team was trying to square that circle.\n
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          But yeah, the idea of a technology existing but not being widely used doesn’t bump me at all. This is like getting mad that when you go into watch the latest Marvel movie and they’re not using [Smell-O-Vision](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smell-O-Vision). The technology exists! Hell, I can’t remember the last movie I saw in theatre that was 3d. Obviously they still exist, but it’s not a technology that’s really taken off once the gimmick lost its lustre. Or think about how many people, especially young people, prefer to text over talking on the phone.\n
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          So yeah, I don’t think anything is cheapened by the idea that a technology exists by is not widely used, and I do think it’s silly that anyone would make that argument.
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          The big one – relatively speaking, of course – in my mind is the site to site transporting.\n
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          > In Discovery, instead of honorable warriors, the klingons are a bunch of sneaky backstabbing and coward warriors.\n
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          Like they are in TOS?\n
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          > They also don’t look like klingons at all\n
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          Are you similarly upset by the change in appearance the occurred between TOS and TMP?\n
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          > and architecture\n
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          Architecture? I don’t know, the House Mo’Kai fortress we see in season two doesn’t seem all that out of place. The rounded towers of the capital city seen in ENT is a greater divergence than anything we see in Disco. But that’s also fine, because architectural styles change over time.\n
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          > the speak like their mouth is full of potatoes\n
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          One ship. The home of a cult leader.
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    Lorca’s not the only one who uses it in Disco, though. It actually happens relatively frequently in the first two season. Obviously for seasons three and four things have changed and it’s no longer an issue.\n
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    Hell, in SNW while Kirk is on the *Enterprise* in “Subspace Rhapsody” he prepares some samples collected outside the ship to be beamed to engineering and thinks nothing of that instance of intra-ship beaming. I guess he forgot that whole event where people broke out into song by the time he was mid-way through his own five year mission.
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          > Mushrooms have significantly less mysticism associated with them\n
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          > The closest comparison to the mycelial network is Yggdrasil, which is solidly in the high fantasy category rather than sci-fi.\n
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          The closest comparison is actual fungal networks that exist beneath forests supporting life through the transference of nutrients and biochemical communication, are some of the largest organisms on the planet, and are actual nonfiction science.\n
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          Yeah, I like Disco because I think they’re at least trying to do something, and that’s interesting to me. They don’t always succeed, but I respect the attempt. However, I fully get why people don’t like it.\n
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          Fuckin’ jeepers, this is grasping at straws.\n
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          What specific lore about the Klingons was abandoned by Disco. Just one specific thing. Any single, specific thing.
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          Lorca’s not the only one who uses it in Disco, though. It actually happens relatively frequently in the first two season. Obviously for seasons three and four things have changed and it’s no longer an issue.\n
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          Depends on the episode.\n
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          When Quark is abducted from Deep Space 9 in “House of Quark” he’s taken clear across the entire Federation and into the Klingon Empire in about a day. And then D’Ghor sends someone to the station to grab Rom and get him back to Qo’noS the next day.\n
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          Trek moves at the speed of plot.
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          But it’s not a trail of spores going through space, and nothing in the show would lead someone who’d been paying the slightest amount of attention to think that’s the case.\n
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          The mycelial network is a layer of subspace, which the spore drive allows them to access because the specific fungus they cultivate exists partially in subspace. Stamets makes that clear in “Choose Your Pain”.\n
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          Subspace is entirely made up facilitate the stories that Trek tells. It was first mentioned in “Mudd’s Women”, the fourth episode of TOS to be produced. It has since served as a means of instantaneous communication across lightyears, as well as long range imaging vis subspace telescope, such as in “The Nth Degree”. The sensors aboard the ships also operate via subspace, allowing them to detect things lightyears away, and detect things ahead of them while travelling faster than light.\n
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          And we learned in the TNG episode “Schisms” that subspace can support life, and even has beings living there. Or at least some aspects of subspace do.\n
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          The spore drive in based on the real science of mycology, and extrapolated through a Trek lens. Nothing about it requires any sort of special property that has not already been established as existing within older episodes of Trek.\n
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          Star Trek has never been hard science fiction, though.\n
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          How is the spore drive any more fantastical than half of what happens in Trek?
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        +body: "You’re not wrong, but I do feel like that’s an over correction. They might as well have had text flashing at the bottom of the screen which read, “Sorry for the holograms, we didn’t realize how angry some of you would get.”"
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          Not for the most part.\n
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          I would probably be more annoyed by the Klingon cloaking devices in season one if not for the fact that ship had already sailed when ENT established that the Romulans already had that technology a hundred years before “Balance of Terror”, and oh, so did the Suliban and the XyrIllians whom the crew of the *Nx-01* also encountered.\n
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          But yeah, the idea of a technology existing but not being widely used doesn’t bump me at all. This is like getting mad that when you go into watch the latest Marvel movie and they’re not using [Smell-O-Vision](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smell-O-Vision). The technology exists! Hell, I can’t remember the last movie I saw in theatre that was 3d. Obviously they still exist, but it’s not a technology that’s really taken off once the gimmick lost its lustre. Or think about how many people, especially young people, prefer to text over talking on the phone.\n
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          So yeah, I don’t think anything is cheapened by the idea that a technology exists by is not widely used, and I do think it’s silly that anyone would make that argument.
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          The big one – relatively speaking, of course – in my mind is the site to site transporting.\n
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          However, we see in Disco, starting with “Context is for Kings”, that they can just order the computer to transport them from one room of the ship to another without hesitation.\n
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          It’s a minor quibble all things considered. And clearly something most of the Disco detractors aren’t even aware of.
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        +body: "Not to mention the specific spores required for the drive to connect with the mycelial network come from one specific type of fungus that exists at least partially within subspace and doesn’t seem to be all that common."
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          > In Discovery, instead of honorable warriors, the klingons are a bunch of sneaky backstabbing and coward warriors.\n
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          Like they are in TOS?\n
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          > They also don’t look like klingons at all\n
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          Are you similarly upset by the change in appearance the occurred between TOS and TMP?\n
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          > and architecture\n
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          Architecture? I don’t know, the House Mo’Kai fortress we see in season two doesn’t seem all that out of place. The rounded towers of the capital city seen in ENT is a greater divergence than anything we see in Disco. But that’s also fine, because architectural styles change over time.\n
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          > the speak like their mouth is full of potatoes\n
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          One ship. The home of a cult leader.
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          > Mushrooms have significantly less mysticism associated with them\n
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          Ah yes, psychedelics are famously not associated with mysticism.\n
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          > The closest comparison to the mycelial network is Yggdrasil, which is solidly in the high fantasy category rather than sci-fi.\n
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          The closest comparison is actual fungal networks that exist beneath forests supporting life through the transference of nutrients and biochemical communication, are some of the largest organisms on the planet, and are actual nonfiction science.\n
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          I think I can agree with you to some extent there. Stamets, by virtue of being standoffish and prickly when the character is introduced, is not the best at explaining things, and the concept could have used a better explanation early on to mitigate the response I’m complaining about with this post.
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          Yeah, I like Disco because I think they’re at least trying to do something, and that’s interesting to me. They don’t always succeed, but I respect the attempt. However, I fully get why people don’t like it.\n
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          Fuckin’ jeepers, this is grasping at straws.\n
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          There’s no “lore” regarding the spore drive or the uniforms, so nothing to disregard.\n
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          What specific lore about the Klingons was abandoned by Disco. Just one specific thing. Any single, specific thing.
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          Lorca’s not the only one who uses it in Disco, though. It actually happens relatively frequently in the first two season. Obviously for seasons three and four things have changed and it’s no longer an issue.\n
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          But it’s not a trail of spores going through space, and nothing in the show would lead someone who’d been paying the slightest amount of attention to think that’s the case.\n
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          The mycelial network is a layer of subspace, which the spore drive allows them to access because the specific fungus they cultivate exists partially in subspace. Stamets makes that clear in “Choose Your Pain”.\n
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          Star Trek has never been hard science fiction, though.\n
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        +body: "You’re not wrong, but I do feel like that’s an over correction. They might as well have had text flashing at the bottom of the screen which read, “Sorry for the holograms, we didn’t realize how angry some of you would get.”"
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          Not for the most part.\n
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          The big one – relatively speaking, of course – in my mind is the site to site transporting.\n
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        +body: "Not to mention the specific spores required for the drive to connect with the mycelial network come from one specific type of fungus that exists at least partially within subspace and doesn’t seem to be all that common."
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          > In Discovery, instead of honorable warriors, the klingons are a bunch of sneaky backstabbing and coward warriors.\n
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          Like they are in TOS?\n
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          > They also don’t look like klingons at all\n
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          Are you similarly upset by the change in appearance the occurred between TOS and TMP?\n
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          > and architecture\n
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          Architecture? I don’t know, the House Mo’Kai fortress we see in season two doesn’t seem all that out of place. The rounded towers of the capital city seen in ENT is a greater divergence than anything we see in Disco. But that’s also fine, because architectural styles change over time.\n
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          One ship. The home of a cult leader.
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          > Mushrooms have significantly less mysticism associated with them\n
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          Ah yes, psychedelics are famously not associated with mysticism.\n
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          > The closest comparison to the mycelial network is Yggdrasil, which is solidly in the high fantasy category rather than sci-fi.\n
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          The closest comparison is actual fungal networks that exist beneath forests supporting life through the transference of nutrients and biochemical communication, are some of the largest organisms on the planet, and are actual nonfiction science.\n
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          > All that is to say, I think the mycelial network needed more time to set up than the show gave it.\n
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          I think I can agree with you to some extent there. Stamets, by virtue of being standoffish and prickly when the character is introduced, is not the best at explaining things, and the concept could have used a better explanation early on to mitigate the response I’m complaining about with this post.
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          Yeah, I like Disco because I think they’re at least trying to do something, and that’s interesting to me. They don’t always succeed, but I respect the attempt. However, I fully get why people don’t like it.\n
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          My issue is with the silly complaints, not what amounts to a matter of taste.
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          Fuckin’ jeepers, this is grasping at straws.\n
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          There’s no “lore” regarding the spore drive or the uniforms, so nothing to disregard.\n
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          What specific lore about the Klingons was abandoned by Disco. Just one specific thing. Any single, specific thing.
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          Lorca’s not the only one who uses it in Disco, though. It actually happens relatively frequently in the first two season. Obviously for seasons three and four things have changed and it’s no longer an issue.\n
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          Hell, in SNW while Kirk is on the *Enterprise* in “Subspace Rhapsody” he prepares some samples collected outside the ship to be beamed to engineering and thinks nothing of that instance of intra-ship beaming. I guess he forgot that whole event where people broke out into song by the time he was mid-way through his own five year mission.
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          Depends on the episode.\n
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          When Quark is abducted from Deep Space 9 in “House of Quark” he’s taken clear across the entire Federation and into the Klingon Empire in about a day. And then D’Ghor sends someone to the station to grab Rom and get him back to Qo’noS the next day.\n
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          Trek moves at the speed of plot.
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          But it’s not a trail of spores going through space, and nothing in the show would lead someone who’d been paying the slightest amount of attention to think that’s the case.\n
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          The mycelial network is a layer of subspace, which the spore drive allows them to access because the specific fungus they cultivate exists partially in subspace. Stamets makes that clear in “Choose Your Pain”.\n
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          Subspace is entirely made up facilitate the stories that Trek tells. It was first mentioned in “Mudd’s Women”, the fourth episode of TOS to be produced. It has since served as a means of instantaneous communication across lightyears, as well as long range imaging vis subspace telescope, such as in “The Nth Degree”. The sensors aboard the ships also operate via subspace, allowing them to detect things lightyears away, and detect things ahead of them while travelling faster than light.\n
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          And we learned in the TNG episode “Schisms” that subspace can support life, and even has beings living there. Or at least some aspects of subspace do.\n
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          The spore drive in based on the real science of mycology, and extrapolated through a Trek lens. Nothing about it requires any sort of special property that has not already been established as existing within older episodes of Trek.\n
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          The only one insulting your intelligence is yourself by believing you’re not creative enough to figure out how the spore drive fits into the larger world of Trek.
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          Star Trek has never been hard science fiction, though.\n
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          How is the spore drive any more fantastical than half of what happens in Trek?
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        +body: "You’re not wrong, but I do feel like that’s an over correction. They might as well have had text flashing at the bottom of the screen which read, “Sorry for the holograms, we didn’t realize how angry some of you would get.”"
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          Not for the most part.\n
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          I would probably be more annoyed by the Klingon cloaking devices in season one if not for the fact that ship had already sailed when ENT established that the Romulans already had that technology a hundred years before “Balance of Terror”, and oh, so did the Suliban and the XyrIllians whom the crew of the *Nx-01* also encountered.\n
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          The big one – relatively speaking, of course – in my mind is the site to site transporting.\n
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          > In Discovery, instead of honorable warriors, the klingons are a bunch of sneaky backstabbing and coward warriors.\n
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          Like they are in TOS?\n
          \n
          > They also don’t look like klingons at all\n
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          Are you similarly upset by the change in appearance the occurred between TOS and TMP?\n
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          > and architecture\n
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          Architecture? I don’t know, the House Mo’Kai fortress we see in season two doesn’t seem all that out of place. The rounded towers of the capital city seen in ENT is a greater divergence than anything we see in Disco. But that’s also fine, because architectural styles change over time.\n
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          > the speak like their mouth is full of potatoes\n
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          > they make ships out of coffins.\n
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          One ship. The home of a cult leader.
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          > Mushrooms have significantly less mysticism associated with them\n
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          Fuckin’ jeepers, this is grasping at straws.\n
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          There’s no “lore” regarding the spore drive or the uniforms, so nothing to disregard.\n
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          What specific lore about the Klingons was abandoned by Disco. Just one specific thing. Any single, specific thing.
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          Lorca’s not the only one who uses it in Disco, though. It actually happens relatively frequently in the first two season. Obviously for seasons three and four things have changed and it’s no longer an issue.\n
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          Hell, in SNW while Kirk is on the *Enterprise* in “Subspace Rhapsody” he prepares some samples collected outside the ship to be beamed to engineering and thinks nothing of that instance of intra-ship beaming. I guess he forgot that whole event where people broke out into song by the time he was mid-way through his own five year mission.
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        +body: "What specific lore has been disregarded?"
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          But it’s not a trail of spores going through space, and nothing in the show would lead someone who’d been paying the slightest amount of attention to think that’s the case.\n
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          The mycelial network is a layer of subspace, which the spore drive allows them to access because the specific fungus they cultivate exists partially in subspace. Stamets makes that clear in “Choose Your Pain”.\n
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          Subspace is entirely made up facilitate the stories that Trek tells. It was first mentioned in “Mudd’s Women”, the fourth episode of TOS to be produced. It has since served as a means of instantaneous communication across lightyears, as well as long range imaging vis subspace telescope, such as in “The Nth Degree”. The sensors aboard the ships also operate via subspace, allowing them to detect things lightyears away, and detect things ahead of them while travelling faster than light.\n
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          And we learned in the TNG episode “Schisms” that subspace can support life, and even has beings living there. Or at least some aspects of subspace do.\n
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          The spore drive in based on the real science of mycology, and extrapolated through a Trek lens. Nothing about it requires any sort of special property that has not already been established as existing within older episodes of Trek.\n
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          The only one insulting your intelligence is yourself by believing you’re not creative enough to figure out how the spore drive fits into the larger world of Trek.
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          Star Trek has never been hard science fiction, though.\n
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          How is the spore drive any more fantastical than half of what happens in Trek?
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        +body: "You’re not wrong, but I do feel like that’s an over correction. They might as well have had text flashing at the bottom of the screen which read, “Sorry for the holograms, we didn’t realize how angry some of you would get.”"
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          Not for the most part.\n
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          I would probably be more annoyed by the Klingon cloaking devices in season one if not for the fact that ship had already sailed when ENT established that the Romulans already had that technology a hundred years before “Balance of Terror”, and oh, so did the Suliban and the XyrIllians whom the crew of the *Nx-01* also encountered.\n
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          But yeah, the idea of a technology existing but not being widely used doesn’t bump me at all. This is like getting mad that when you go into watch the latest Marvel movie and they’re not using [Smell-O-Vision](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smell-O-Vision). The technology exists! Hell, I can’t remember the last movie I saw in theatre that was 3d. Obviously they still exist, but it’s not a technology that’s really taken off once the gimmick lost its lustre. Or think about how many people, especially young people, prefer to text over talking on the phone.\n
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          So yeah, I don’t think anything is cheapened by the idea that a technology exists by is not widely used, and I do think it’s silly that anyone would make that argument.
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          The big one – relatively speaking, of course – in my mind is the site to site transporting.\n
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          However, we see in Disco, starting with “Context is for Kings”, that they can just order the computer to transport them from one room of the ship to another without hesitation.\n
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          It’s a minor quibble all things considered. And clearly something most of the Disco detractors aren’t even aware of.
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        +body: "Not to mention the specific spores required for the drive to connect with the mycelial network come from one specific type of fungus that exists at least partially within subspace and doesn’t seem to be all that common."
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          > In Discovery, instead of honorable warriors, the klingons are a bunch of sneaky backstabbing and coward warriors.\n
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          Like they are in TOS?\n
          \n
          > They also don’t look like klingons at all\n
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          Are you similarly upset by the change in appearance the occurred between TOS and TMP?\n
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          > and architecture\n
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          Architecture? I don’t know, the House Mo’Kai fortress we see in season two doesn’t seem all that out of place. The rounded towers of the capital city seen in ENT is a greater divergence than anything we see in Disco. But that’s also fine, because architectural styles change over time.\n
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          > the speak like their mouth is full of potatoes\n
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          One ship. The home of a cult leader.
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    Depends on the episode.\n
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    When Quark is abducted from Deep Space 9 in “House of Quark” he’s taken clear across the entire Federation and into the Klingon Empire in about a day. And then D’Ghor sends someone to the station to grab Rom and get him back to Qo’noS the next day.\n
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          > Mushrooms have significantly less mysticism associated with them\n
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          Ah yes, psychedelics are famously not associated with mysticism.\n
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          > The closest comparison to the mycelial network is Yggdrasil, which is solidly in the high fantasy category rather than sci-fi.\n
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          The closest comparison is actual fungal networks that exist beneath forests supporting life through the transference of nutrients and biochemical communication, are some of the largest organisms on the planet, and are actual nonfiction science.\n
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          > All that is to say, I think the mycelial network needed more time to set up than the show gave it.\n
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          I think I can agree with you to some extent there. Stamets, by virtue of being standoffish and prickly when the character is introduced, is not the best at explaining things, and the concept could have used a better explanation early on to mitigate the response I’m complaining about with this post.
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          Yeah, I like Disco because I think they’re at least trying to do something, and that’s interesting to me. They don’t always succeed, but I respect the attempt. However, I fully get why people don’t like it.\n
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          My issue is with the silly complaints, not what amounts to a matter of taste.
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          Fuckin’ jeepers, this is grasping at straws.\n
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          There’s no “lore” regarding the spore drive or the uniforms, so nothing to disregard.\n
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          What specific lore about the Klingons was abandoned by Disco. Just one specific thing. Any single, specific thing.
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          Lorca’s not the only one who uses it in Disco, though. It actually happens relatively frequently in the first two season. Obviously for seasons three and four things have changed and it’s no longer an issue.\n
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          But it’s not a trail of spores going through space, and nothing in the show would lead someone who’d been paying the slightest amount of attention to think that’s the case.\n
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          The mycelial network is a layer of subspace, which the spore drive allows them to access because the specific fungus they cultivate exists partially in subspace. Stamets makes that clear in “Choose Your Pain”.\n
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          Subspace is entirely made up facilitate the stories that Trek tells. It was first mentioned in “Mudd’s Women”, the fourth episode of TOS to be produced. It has since served as a means of instantaneous communication across lightyears, as well as long range imaging vis subspace telescope, such as in “The Nth Degree”. The sensors aboard the ships also operate via subspace, allowing them to detect things lightyears away, and detect things ahead of them while travelling faster than light.\n
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          The spore drive in based on the real science of mycology, and extrapolated through a Trek lens. Nothing about it requires any sort of special property that has not already been established as existing within older episodes of Trek.\n
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          Star Trek has never been hard science fiction, though.\n
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          How is the spore drive any more fantastical than half of what happens in Trek?
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        +body: "You’re not wrong, but I do feel like that’s an over correction. They might as well have had text flashing at the bottom of the screen which read, “Sorry for the holograms, we didn’t realize how angry some of you would get.”"
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          Not for the most part.\n
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          The big one – relatively speaking, of course – in my mind is the site to site transporting.\n
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        +body: "Not to mention the specific spores required for the drive to connect with the mycelial network come from one specific type of fungus that exists at least partially within subspace and doesn’t seem to be all that common."
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          > In Discovery, instead of honorable warriors, the klingons are a bunch of sneaky backstabbing and coward warriors.\n
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          Like they are in TOS?\n
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          > They also don’t look like klingons at all\n
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          Are you similarly upset by the change in appearance the occurred between TOS and TMP?\n
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          > and architecture\n
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          Architecture? I don’t know, the House Mo’Kai fortress we see in season two doesn’t seem all that out of place. The rounded towers of the capital city seen in ENT is a greater divergence than anything we see in Disco. But that’s also fine, because architectural styles change over time.\n
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          > they make ships out of coffins.\n
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          One ship. The home of a cult leader.
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    Depends on the episode.\n
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    Trek moves at the speed of plot.
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          > Mushrooms have significantly less mysticism associated with them\n
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          Ah yes, psychedelics are famously not associated with mysticism.\n
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          > The closest comparison to the mycelial network is Yggdrasil, which is solidly in the high fantasy category rather than sci-fi.\n
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          The closest comparison is actual fungal networks that exist beneath forests supporting life through the transference of nutrients and biochemical communication, are some of the largest organisms on the planet, and are actual nonfiction science.\n
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          > All that is to say, I think the mycelial network needed more time to set up than the show gave it.\n
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          I think I can agree with you to some extent there. Stamets, by virtue of being standoffish and prickly when the character is introduced, is not the best at explaining things, and the concept could have used a better explanation early on to mitigate the response I’m complaining about with this post.
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          Yeah, I like Disco because I think they’re at least trying to do something, and that’s interesting to me. They don’t always succeed, but I respect the attempt. However, I fully get why people don’t like it.\n
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          Fuckin’ jeepers, this is grasping at straws.\n
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          There’s no “lore” regarding the spore drive or the uniforms, so nothing to disregard.\n
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          What specific lore about the Klingons was abandoned by Disco. Just one specific thing. Any single, specific thing.
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          Lorca’s not the only one who uses it in Disco, though. It actually happens relatively frequently in the first two season. Obviously for seasons three and four things have changed and it’s no longer an issue.\n
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          Hell, in SNW while Kirk is on the *Enterprise* in “Subspace Rhapsody” he prepares some samples collected outside the ship to be beamed to engineering and thinks nothing of that instance of intra-ship beaming. I guess he forgot that whole event where people broke out into song by the time he was mid-way through his own five year mission.
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          But it’s not a trail of spores going through space, and nothing in the show would lead someone who’d been paying the slightest amount of attention to think that’s the case.\n
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          The mycelial network is a layer of subspace, which the spore drive allows them to access because the specific fungus they cultivate exists partially in subspace. Stamets makes that clear in “Choose Your Pain”.\n
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          Subspace is entirely made up facilitate the stories that Trek tells. It was first mentioned in “Mudd’s Women”, the fourth episode of TOS to be produced. It has since served as a means of instantaneous communication across lightyears, as well as long range imaging vis subspace telescope, such as in “The Nth Degree”. The sensors aboard the ships also operate via subspace, allowing them to detect things lightyears away, and detect things ahead of them while travelling faster than light.\n
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          The spore drive in based on the real science of mycology, and extrapolated through a Trek lens. Nothing about it requires any sort of special property that has not already been established as existing within older episodes of Trek.\n
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          Star Trek has never been hard science fiction, though.\n
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          Not for the most part.\n
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          The big one – relatively speaking, of course – in my mind is the site to site transporting.\n
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          > In Discovery, instead of honorable warriors, the klingons are a bunch of sneaky backstabbing and coward warriors.\n
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          Like they are in TOS?\n
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          > They also don’t look like klingons at all\n
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          Are you similarly upset by the change in appearance the occurred between TOS and TMP?\n
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          > and architecture\n
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          Architecture? I don’t know, the House Mo’Kai fortress we see in season two doesn’t seem all that out of place. The rounded towers of the capital city seen in ENT is a greater divergence than anything we see in Disco. But that’s also fine, because architectural styles change over time.\n
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          > the speak like their mouth is full of potatoes\n
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          One ship. The home of a cult leader.
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    Depends on the episode.\n
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          > Mushrooms have significantly less mysticism associated with them\n
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          > The closest comparison to the mycelial network is Yggdrasil, which is solidly in the high fantasy category rather than sci-fi.\n
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          Yeah, I like Disco because I think they’re at least trying to do something, and that’s interesting to me. They don’t always succeed, but I respect the attempt. However, I fully get why people don’t like it.\n
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          Fuckin’ jeepers, this is grasping at straws.\n
          \n
          There’s no “lore” regarding the spore drive or the uniforms, so nothing to disregard.\n
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          What specific lore about the Klingons was abandoned by Disco. Just one specific thing. Any single, specific thing.
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          Lorca’s not the only one who uses it in Disco, though. It actually happens relatively frequently in the first two season. Obviously for seasons three and four things have changed and it’s no longer an issue.\n
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          Hell, in SNW while Kirk is on the *Enterprise* in “Subspace Rhapsody” he prepares some samples collected outside the ship to be beamed to engineering and thinks nothing of that instance of intra-ship beaming. I guess he forgot that whole event where people broke out into song by the time he was mid-way through his own five year mission.
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        +body: "What specific lore has been disregarded?"
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          Depends on the episode.\n
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          When Quark is abducted from Deep Space 9 in “House of Quark” he’s taken clear across the entire Federation and into the Klingon Empire in about a day. And then D’Ghor sends someone to the station to grab Rom and get him back to Qo’noS the next day.\n
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          Trek moves at the speed of plot.
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          Star Trek has never been hard science fiction, though.\n
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          How is the spore drive any more fantastical than half of what happens in Trek?
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        +body: "You’re not wrong, but I do feel like that’s an over correction. They might as well have had text flashing at the bottom of the screen which read, “Sorry for the holograms, we didn’t realize how angry some of you would get.”"
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          Not for the most part.\n
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          I would probably be more annoyed by the Klingon cloaking devices in season one if not for the fact that ship had already sailed when ENT established that the Romulans already had that technology a hundred years before “Balance of Terror”, and oh, so did the Suliban and the XyrIllians whom the crew of the *Nx-01* also encountered.\n
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          Not to mention there’s a throw away line in one episode of season one about how the sensors are picking up massive power readings but can’t actually pinpoint the ships, and in “Balance of Terror” Spock notes that the Romulans must have figured out a way to bend light around their ship without the tremendous power draw. I have to assume someone on the writing team was trying to square that circle.\n
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          But yeah, the idea of a technology existing but not being widely used doesn’t bump me at all. This is like getting mad that when you go into watch the latest Marvel movie and they’re not using [Smell-O-Vision](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smell-O-Vision). The technology exists! Hell, I can’t remember the last movie I saw in theatre that was 3d. Obviously they still exist, but it’s not a technology that’s really taken off once the gimmick lost its lustre. Or think about how many people, especially young people, prefer to text over talking on the phone.\n
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          So yeah, I don’t think anything is cheapened by the idea that a technology exists by is not widely used, and I do think it’s silly that anyone would make that argument.
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          The big one – relatively speaking, of course – in my mind is the site to site transporting.\n
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          However, we see in Disco, starting with “Context is for Kings”, that they can just order the computer to transport them from one room of the ship to another without hesitation.\n
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          It’s a minor quibble all things considered. And clearly something most of the Disco detractors aren’t even aware of.
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          > In Discovery, instead of honorable warriors, the klingons are a bunch of sneaky backstabbing and coward warriors.\n
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          Like they are in TOS?\n
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          > They also don’t look like klingons at all\n
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          Are you similarly upset by the change in appearance the occurred between TOS and TMP?\n
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          > and architecture\n
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          Architecture? I don’t know, the House Mo’Kai fortress we see in season two doesn’t seem all that out of place. The rounded towers of the capital city seen in ENT is a greater divergence than anything we see in Disco. But that’s also fine, because architectural styles change over time.\n
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          One ship. The home of a cult leader.
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    But it’s not a trail of spores going through space, and nothing in the show would lead someone who’d been paying the slightest amount of attention to think that’s the case.\n
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    The mycelial network is a layer of subspace, which the spore drive allows them to access because the specific fungus they cultivate exists partially in subspace. Stamets makes that clear in “Choose Your Pain”.\n
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    Subspace is entirely made up facilitate the stories that Trek tells. It was first mentioned in “Mudd’s Women”, the fourth episode of TOS to be produced. It has since served as a means of instantaneous communication across lightyears, as well as long range imaging vis subspace telescope, such as in “The Nth Degree”. The sensors aboard the ships also operate via subspace, allowing them to detect things lightyears away, and detect things ahead of them while travelling faster than light.\n
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    And we learned in the TNG episode “Schisms” that subspace can support life, and even has beings living there. Or at least some aspects of subspace do.\n
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    The spore drive in based on the real science of mycology, and extrapolated through a Trek lens. Nothing about it requires any sort of special property that has not already been established as existing within older episodes of Trek.\n
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    The only one insulting your intelligence is yourself by believing you’re not creative enough to figure out how the spore drive fits into the larger world of Trek.
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          > Mushrooms have significantly less mysticism associated with them\n
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          Ah yes, psychedelics are famously not associated with mysticism.\n
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          > The closest comparison to the mycelial network is Yggdrasil, which is solidly in the high fantasy category rather than sci-fi.\n
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          The closest comparison is actual fungal networks that exist beneath forests supporting life through the transference of nutrients and biochemical communication, are some of the largest organisms on the planet, and are actual nonfiction science.\n
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          I think I can agree with you to some extent there. Stamets, by virtue of being standoffish and prickly when the character is introduced, is not the best at explaining things, and the concept could have used a better explanation early on to mitigate the response I’m complaining about with this post.
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          Yeah, I like Disco because I think they’re at least trying to do something, and that’s interesting to me. They don’t always succeed, but I respect the attempt. However, I fully get why people don’t like it.\n
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          Fuckin’ jeepers, this is grasping at straws.\n
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          There’s no “lore” regarding the spore drive or the uniforms, so nothing to disregard.\n
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          What specific lore about the Klingons was abandoned by Disco. Just one specific thing. Any single, specific thing.
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          Lorca’s not the only one who uses it in Disco, though. It actually happens relatively frequently in the first two season. Obviously for seasons three and four things have changed and it’s no longer an issue.\n
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          Depends on the episode.\n
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          When Quark is abducted from Deep Space 9 in “House of Quark” he’s taken clear across the entire Federation and into the Klingon Empire in about a day. And then D’Ghor sends someone to the station to grab Rom and get him back to Qo’noS the next day.\n
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          Trek moves at the speed of plot.
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          Star Trek has never been hard science fiction, though.\n
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          How is the spore drive any more fantastical than half of what happens in Trek?
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        +body: "You’re not wrong, but I do feel like that’s an over correction. They might as well have had text flashing at the bottom of the screen which read, “Sorry for the holograms, we didn’t realize how angry some of you would get.”"
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          Not for the most part.\n
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          I would probably be more annoyed by the Klingon cloaking devices in season one if not for the fact that ship had already sailed when ENT established that the Romulans already had that technology a hundred years before “Balance of Terror”, and oh, so did the Suliban and the XyrIllians whom the crew of the *Nx-01* also encountered.\n
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          So yeah, I don’t think anything is cheapened by the idea that a technology exists by is not widely used, and I do think it’s silly that anyone would make that argument.
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          The big one – relatively speaking, of course – in my mind is the site to site transporting.\n
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          However, we see in Disco, starting with “Context is for Kings”, that they can just order the computer to transport them from one room of the ship to another without hesitation.\n
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          It’s a minor quibble all things considered. And clearly something most of the Disco detractors aren’t even aware of.
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        +body: "Not to mention the specific spores required for the drive to connect with the mycelial network come from one specific type of fungus that exists at least partially within subspace and doesn’t seem to be all that common."
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          > In Discovery, instead of honorable warriors, the klingons are a bunch of sneaky backstabbing and coward warriors.\n
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          Like they are in TOS?\n
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          > They also don’t look like klingons at all\n
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          Are you similarly upset by the change in appearance the occurred between TOS and TMP?\n
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          > and architecture\n
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          Architecture? I don’t know, the House Mo’Kai fortress we see in season two doesn’t seem all that out of place. The rounded towers of the capital city seen in ENT is a greater divergence than anything we see in Disco. But that’s also fine, because architectural styles change over time.\n
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          > the speak like their mouth is full of potatoes\n
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          > they make ships out of coffins.\n
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          One ship. The home of a cult leader.
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    But it’s not a trail of spores going through space, and nothing in the show would lead someone who’d been paying the slightest amount of attention to think that’s the case.\n
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    The mycelial network is a layer of subspace, which the spore drive allows them to access because the specific fungus they cultivate exists partially in subspace. Stamets makes that clear in “Choose Your Pain”.\n
    \n
    Subspace is entirely made up facilitate the stories that Trek tells. It was first mentioned in “Mudd’s Women”, the fourth episode of TOS to be produced. It has since served as a means of instantaneous communication across lightyears, as well as long range imaging vis subspace telescope, such as in “The Nth Degree”. The sensors aboard the ships also operate via subspace, allowing them to detect things lightyears away, and detect things ahead of them while travelling faster than light.\n
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    And we learned in the TNG episode “Schisms” that subspace can support life, and even has beings living there. Or at least some aspects of subspace do.\n
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    The spore drive in based on the real science of mycology, and extrapolated through a Trek lens. Nothing about it requires any sort of special property that has not already been established as existing within older episodes of Trek.\n
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    The only one insulting your intelligence is yourself by believing you’re not creative enough to figure out how the spore drive fits into the larger world of Trek.
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          > Mushrooms have significantly less mysticism associated with them\n
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          Ah yes, psychedelics are famously not associated with mysticism.\n
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          > The closest comparison to the mycelial network is Yggdrasil, which is solidly in the high fantasy category rather than sci-fi.\n
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          The closest comparison is actual fungal networks that exist beneath forests supporting life through the transference of nutrients and biochemical communication, are some of the largest organisms on the planet, and are actual nonfiction science.\n
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          > All that is to say, I think the mycelial network needed more time to set up than the show gave it.\n
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          I think I can agree with you to some extent there. Stamets, by virtue of being standoffish and prickly when the character is introduced, is not the best at explaining things, and the concept could have used a better explanation early on to mitigate the response I’m complaining about with this post.
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          Yeah, I like Disco because I think they’re at least trying to do something, and that’s interesting to me. They don’t always succeed, but I respect the attempt. However, I fully get why people don’t like it.\n
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          Fuckin’ jeepers, this is grasping at straws.\n
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          There’s no “lore” regarding the spore drive or the uniforms, so nothing to disregard.\n
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          What specific lore about the Klingons was abandoned by Disco. Just one specific thing. Any single, specific thing.
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          Lorca’s not the only one who uses it in Disco, though. It actually happens relatively frequently in the first two season. Obviously for seasons three and four things have changed and it’s no longer an issue.\n
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          Hell, in SNW while Kirk is on the *Enterprise* in “Subspace Rhapsody” he prepares some samples collected outside the ship to be beamed to engineering and thinks nothing of that instance of intra-ship beaming. I guess he forgot that whole event where people broke out into song by the time he was mid-way through his own five year mission.
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          Depends on the episode.\n
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          When Quark is abducted from Deep Space 9 in “House of Quark” he’s taken clear across the entire Federation and into the Klingon Empire in about a day. And then D’Ghor sends someone to the station to grab Rom and get him back to Qo’noS the next day.\n
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          Star Trek has never been hard science fiction, though.\n
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        +body: "You’re not wrong, but I do feel like that’s an over correction. They might as well have had text flashing at the bottom of the screen which read, “Sorry for the holograms, we didn’t realize how angry some of you would get.”"
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          Not for the most part.\n
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          The big one – relatively speaking, of course – in my mind is the site to site transporting.\n
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          > In Discovery, instead of honorable warriors, the klingons are a bunch of sneaky backstabbing and coward warriors.\n
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          Like they are in TOS?\n
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          > They also don’t look like klingons at all\n
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          Are you similarly upset by the change in appearance the occurred between TOS and TMP?\n
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          > and architecture\n
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          Architecture? I don’t know, the House Mo’Kai fortress we see in season two doesn’t seem all that out of place. The rounded towers of the capital city seen in ENT is a greater divergence than anything we see in Disco. But that’s also fine, because architectural styles change over time.\n
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          One ship. The home of a cult leader.
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    But it’s not a trail of spores going through space, and nothing in the show would lead someone who’d been paying the slightest amount of attention to think that’s the case.\n
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    The mycelial network is a layer of subspace, which the spore drive allows them to access because the specific fungus they cultivate exists partially in subspace. Stamets makes that clear in “Choose Your Pain”.\n
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    Subspace is entirely made up facilitate the stories that Trek tells. It was first mentioned in “Mudd’s Women”, the fourth episode of TOS to be produced. It has since served as a means of instantaneous communication across lightyears, as well as long range imaging vis subspace telescope, such as in “The Nth Degree”. The sensors aboard the ships also operate via subspace, allowing them to detect things lightyears away, and detect things ahead of them while travelling faster than light.\n
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    The spore drive in based on the real science of mycology, and extrapolated through a Trek lens. Nothing about it requires any sort of special property that has not already been established as existing within older episodes of Trek.\n
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          > Mushrooms have significantly less mysticism associated with them\n
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          Yeah, I like Disco because I think they’re at least trying to do something, and that’s interesting to me. They don’t always succeed, but I respect the attempt. However, I fully get why people don’t like it.\n
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          My issue is with the silly complaints, not what amounts to a matter of taste.
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          Fuckin’ jeepers, this is grasping at straws.\n
          \n
          There’s no “lore” regarding the spore drive or the uniforms, so nothing to disregard.\n
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          What specific lore about the Klingons was abandoned by Disco. Just one specific thing. Any single, specific thing.
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          Lorca’s not the only one who uses it in Disco, though. It actually happens relatively frequently in the first two season. Obviously for seasons three and four things have changed and it’s no longer an issue.\n
          \n
          Hell, in SNW while Kirk is on the *Enterprise* in “Subspace Rhapsody” he prepares some samples collected outside the ship to be beamed to engineering and thinks nothing of that instance of intra-ship beaming. I guess he forgot that whole event where people broke out into song by the time he was mid-way through his own five year mission.
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        +body: "What specific lore has been disregarded?"
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          Depends on the episode.\n
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          When Quark is abducted from Deep Space 9 in “House of Quark” he’s taken clear across the entire Federation and into the Klingon Empire in about a day. And then D’Ghor sends someone to the station to grab Rom and get him back to Qo’noS the next day.\n
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          Trek moves at the speed of plot.
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          But it’s not a trail of spores going through space, and nothing in the show would lead someone who’d been paying the slightest amount of attention to think that’s the case.\n
          \n
          The mycelial network is a layer of subspace, which the spore drive allows them to access because the specific fungus they cultivate exists partially in subspace. Stamets makes that clear in “Choose Your Pain”.\n
          \n
          Subspace is entirely made up facilitate the stories that Trek tells. It was first mentioned in “Mudd’s Women”, the fourth episode of TOS to be produced. It has since served as a means of instantaneous communication across lightyears, as well as long range imaging vis subspace telescope, such as in “The Nth Degree”. The sensors aboard the ships also operate via subspace, allowing them to detect things lightyears away, and detect things ahead of them while travelling faster than light.\n
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          And we learned in the TNG episode “Schisms” that subspace can support life, and even has beings living there. Or at least some aspects of subspace do.\n
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          The spore drive in based on the real science of mycology, and extrapolated through a Trek lens. Nothing about it requires any sort of special property that has not already been established as existing within older episodes of Trek.\n
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          The only one insulting your intelligence is yourself by believing you’re not creative enough to figure out how the spore drive fits into the larger world of Trek.
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        +body: "You’re not wrong, but I do feel like that’s an over correction. They might as well have had text flashing at the bottom of the screen which read, “Sorry for the holograms, we didn’t realize how angry some of you would get.”"
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          Not for the most part.\n
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          I would probably be more annoyed by the Klingon cloaking devices in season one if not for the fact that ship had already sailed when ENT established that the Romulans already had that technology a hundred years before “Balance of Terror”, and oh, so did the Suliban and the XyrIllians whom the crew of the *Nx-01* also encountered.\n
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          Not to mention there’s a throw away line in one episode of season one about how the sensors are picking up massive power readings but can’t actually pinpoint the ships, and in “Balance of Terror” Spock notes that the Romulans must have figured out a way to bend light around their ship without the tremendous power draw. I have to assume someone on the writing team was trying to square that circle.\n
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          But yeah, the idea of a technology existing but not being widely used doesn’t bump me at all. This is like getting mad that when you go into watch the latest Marvel movie and they’re not using [Smell-O-Vision](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smell-O-Vision). The technology exists! Hell, I can’t remember the last movie I saw in theatre that was 3d. Obviously they still exist, but it’s not a technology that’s really taken off once the gimmick lost its lustre. Or think about how many people, especially young people, prefer to text over talking on the phone.\n
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          So yeah, I don’t think anything is cheapened by the idea that a technology exists by is not widely used, and I do think it’s silly that anyone would make that argument.
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          The big one – relatively speaking, of course – in my mind is the site to site transporting.\n
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          > In Discovery, instead of honorable warriors, the klingons are a bunch of sneaky backstabbing and coward warriors.\n
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          Like they are in TOS?\n
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          > They also don’t look like klingons at all\n
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          Are you similarly upset by the change in appearance the occurred between TOS and TMP?\n
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          > and architecture\n
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          Architecture? I don’t know, the House Mo’Kai fortress we see in season two doesn’t seem all that out of place. The rounded towers of the capital city seen in ENT is a greater divergence than anything we see in Disco. But that’s also fine, because architectural styles change over time.\n
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          One ship. The home of a cult leader.
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    Star Trek has never been hard science fiction, though.\n
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    How is the spore drive any more fantastical than half of what happens in Trek?
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          > Mushrooms have significantly less mysticism associated with them\n
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          Ah yes, psychedelics are famously not associated with mysticism.\n
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          > The closest comparison to the mycelial network is Yggdrasil, which is solidly in the high fantasy category rather than sci-fi.\n
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          The closest comparison is actual fungal networks that exist beneath forests supporting life through the transference of nutrients and biochemical communication, are some of the largest organisms on the planet, and are actual nonfiction science.\n
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          I think I can agree with you to some extent there. Stamets, by virtue of being standoffish and prickly when the character is introduced, is not the best at explaining things, and the concept could have used a better explanation early on to mitigate the response I’m complaining about with this post.
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          Yeah, I like Disco because I think they’re at least trying to do something, and that’s interesting to me. They don’t always succeed, but I respect the attempt. However, I fully get why people don’t like it.\n
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          Fuckin’ jeepers, this is grasping at straws.\n
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          There’s no “lore” regarding the spore drive or the uniforms, so nothing to disregard.\n
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          What specific lore about the Klingons was abandoned by Disco. Just one specific thing. Any single, specific thing.
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          Lorca’s not the only one who uses it in Disco, though. It actually happens relatively frequently in the first two season. Obviously for seasons three and four things have changed and it’s no longer an issue.\n
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        +body: "What specific lore has been disregarded?"
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          Depends on the episode.\n
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          Trek moves at the speed of plot.
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          But it’s not a trail of spores going through space, and nothing in the show would lead someone who’d been paying the slightest amount of attention to think that’s the case.\n
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          The mycelial network is a layer of subspace, which the spore drive allows them to access because the specific fungus they cultivate exists partially in subspace. Stamets makes that clear in “Choose Your Pain”.\n
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          Subspace is entirely made up facilitate the stories that Trek tells. It was first mentioned in “Mudd’s Women”, the fourth episode of TOS to be produced. It has since served as a means of instantaneous communication across lightyears, as well as long range imaging vis subspace telescope, such as in “The Nth Degree”. The sensors aboard the ships also operate via subspace, allowing them to detect things lightyears away, and detect things ahead of them while travelling faster than light.\n
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          And we learned in the TNG episode “Schisms” that subspace can support life, and even has beings living there. Or at least some aspects of subspace do.\n
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          The spore drive in based on the real science of mycology, and extrapolated through a Trek lens. Nothing about it requires any sort of special property that has not already been established as existing within older episodes of Trek.\n
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          The only one insulting your intelligence is yourself by believing you’re not creative enough to figure out how the spore drive fits into the larger world of Trek.
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        +body: "You’re not wrong, but I do feel like that’s an over correction. They might as well have had text flashing at the bottom of the screen which read, “Sorry for the holograms, we didn’t realize how angry some of you would get.”"
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          Not for the most part.\n
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          I would probably be more annoyed by the Klingon cloaking devices in season one if not for the fact that ship had already sailed when ENT established that the Romulans already had that technology a hundred years before “Balance of Terror”, and oh, so did the Suliban and the XyrIllians whom the crew of the *Nx-01* also encountered.\n
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          Not to mention there’s a throw away line in one episode of season one about how the sensors are picking up massive power readings but can’t actually pinpoint the ships, and in “Balance of Terror” Spock notes that the Romulans must have figured out a way to bend light around their ship without the tremendous power draw. I have to assume someone on the writing team was trying to square that circle.\n
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          But yeah, the idea of a technology existing but not being widely used doesn’t bump me at all. This is like getting mad that when you go into watch the latest Marvel movie and they’re not using [Smell-O-Vision](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smell-O-Vision). The technology exists! Hell, I can’t remember the last movie I saw in theatre that was 3d. Obviously they still exist, but it’s not a technology that’s really taken off once the gimmick lost its lustre. Or think about how many people, especially young people, prefer to text over talking on the phone.\n
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          So yeah, I don’t think anything is cheapened by the idea that a technology exists by is not widely used, and I do think it’s silly that anyone would make that argument.
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          The big one – relatively speaking, of course – in my mind is the site to site transporting.\n
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          In “Day of the Dove”, Kirk asks Spock, *”Intra-ship beaming, is it possible?”* and Spock rattled off a litany of reasons why it was considered too dangerous in all but the most necessary circumstances.\n
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          However, we see in Disco, starting with “Context is for Kings”, that they can just order the computer to transport them from one room of the ship to another without hesitation.\n
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          It’s a minor quibble all things considered. And clearly something most of the Disco detractors aren’t even aware of.
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        +body: "Not to mention the specific spores required for the drive to connect with the mycelial network come from one specific type of fungus that exists at least partially within subspace and doesn’t seem to be all that common."
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          > In Discovery, instead of honorable warriors, the klingons are a bunch of sneaky backstabbing and coward warriors.\n
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          Like they are in TOS?\n
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          > They also don’t look like klingons at all\n
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          Are you similarly upset by the change in appearance the occurred between TOS and TMP?\n
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          > and architecture\n
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          Architecture? I don’t know, the House Mo’Kai fortress we see in season two doesn’t seem all that out of place. The rounded towers of the capital city seen in ENT is a greater divergence than anything we see in Disco. But that’s also fine, because architectural styles change over time.\n
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          > the speak like their mouth is full of potatoes\n
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          And apparently, according to experts in the language, that’s the best Klingon has ever sounded on screen. Not really sure how that qualifies as a lore thing, though.\n
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          > they make ships out of coffins.\n
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          One ship. The home of a cult leader.
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    Star Trek has never been hard science fiction, though.\n
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    How is the spore drive any more fantastical than half of what happens in Trek?
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          > Mushrooms have significantly less mysticism associated with them\n
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          Ah yes, psychedelics are famously not associated with mysticism.\n
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          > The closest comparison to the mycelial network is Yggdrasil, which is solidly in the high fantasy category rather than sci-fi.\n
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          The closest comparison is actual fungal networks that exist beneath forests supporting life through the transference of nutrients and biochemical communication, are some of the largest organisms on the planet, and are actual nonfiction science.\n
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          Yeah, I like Disco because I think they’re at least trying to do something, and that’s interesting to me. They don’t always succeed, but I respect the attempt. However, I fully get why people don’t like it.\n
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          Fuckin’ jeepers, this is grasping at straws.\n
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          There’s no “lore” regarding the spore drive or the uniforms, so nothing to disregard.\n
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          What specific lore about the Klingons was abandoned by Disco. Just one specific thing. Any single, specific thing.
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          Lorca’s not the only one who uses it in Disco, though. It actually happens relatively frequently in the first two season. Obviously for seasons three and four things have changed and it’s no longer an issue.\n
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          Depends on the episode.\n
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          But it’s not a trail of spores going through space, and nothing in the show would lead someone who’d been paying the slightest amount of attention to think that’s the case.\n
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          The mycelial network is a layer of subspace, which the spore drive allows them to access because the specific fungus they cultivate exists partially in subspace. Stamets makes that clear in “Choose Your Pain”.\n
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          Subspace is entirely made up facilitate the stories that Trek tells. It was first mentioned in “Mudd’s Women”, the fourth episode of TOS to be produced. It has since served as a means of instantaneous communication across lightyears, as well as long range imaging vis subspace telescope, such as in “The Nth Degree”. The sensors aboard the ships also operate via subspace, allowing them to detect things lightyears away, and detect things ahead of them while travelling faster than light.\n
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        +body: "You’re not wrong, but I do feel like that’s an over correction. They might as well have had text flashing at the bottom of the screen which read, “Sorry for the holograms, we didn’t realize how angry some of you would get.”"
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          Not for the most part.\n
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          The big one – relatively speaking, of course – in my mind is the site to site transporting.\n
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          > In Discovery, instead of honorable warriors, the klingons are a bunch of sneaky backstabbing and coward warriors.\n
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          Like they are in TOS?\n
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          > They also don’t look like klingons at all\n
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          > Mushrooms have significantly less mysticism associated with them\n
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          Ah yes, psychedelics are famously not associated with mysticism.\n
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          > The closest comparison to the mycelial network is Yggdrasil, which is solidly in the high fantasy category rather than sci-fi.\n
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          The closest comparison is actual fungal networks that exist beneath forests supporting life through the transference of nutrients and biochemical communication, are some of the largest organisms on the planet, and are actual nonfiction science.\n
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          > All that is to say, I think the mycelial network needed more time to set up than the show gave it.\n
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          I think I can agree with you to some extent there. Stamets, by virtue of being standoffish and prickly when the character is introduced, is not the best at explaining things, and the concept could have used a better explanation early on to mitigate the response I’m complaining about with this post.
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          Yeah, I like Disco because I think they’re at least trying to do something, and that’s interesting to me. They don’t always succeed, but I respect the attempt. However, I fully get why people don’t like it.\n
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          My issue is with the silly complaints, not what amounts to a matter of taste.
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          Fuckin’ jeepers, this is grasping at straws.\n
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          There’s no “lore” regarding the spore drive or the uniforms, so nothing to disregard.\n
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          What specific lore about the Klingons was abandoned by Disco. Just one specific thing. Any single, specific thing.
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          Lorca’s not the only one who uses it in Disco, though. It actually happens relatively frequently in the first two season. Obviously for seasons three and four things have changed and it’s no longer an issue.\n
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          Hell, in SNW while Kirk is on the *Enterprise* in “Subspace Rhapsody” he prepares some samples collected outside the ship to be beamed to engineering and thinks nothing of that instance of intra-ship beaming. I guess he forgot that whole event where people broke out into song by the time he was mid-way through his own five year mission.
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        +body: "What specific lore has been disregarded?"
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          Depends on the episode.\n
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          When Quark is abducted from Deep Space 9 in “House of Quark” he’s taken clear across the entire Federation and into the Klingon Empire in about a day. And then D’Ghor sends someone to the station to grab Rom and get him back to Qo’noS the next day.\n
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          Trek moves at the speed of plot.
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          But it’s not a trail of spores going through space, and nothing in the show would lead someone who’d been paying the slightest amount of attention to think that’s the case.\n
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          The mycelial network is a layer of subspace, which the spore drive allows them to access because the specific fungus they cultivate exists partially in subspace. Stamets makes that clear in “Choose Your Pain”.\n
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          Subspace is entirely made up facilitate the stories that Trek tells. It was first mentioned in “Mudd’s Women”, the fourth episode of TOS to be produced. It has since served as a means of instantaneous communication across lightyears, as well as long range imaging vis subspace telescope, such as in “The Nth Degree”. The sensors aboard the ships also operate via subspace, allowing them to detect things lightyears away, and detect things ahead of them while travelling faster than light.\n
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          And we learned in the TNG episode “Schisms” that subspace can support life, and even has beings living there. Or at least some aspects of subspace do.\n
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          The spore drive in based on the real science of mycology, and extrapolated through a Trek lens. Nothing about it requires any sort of special property that has not already been established as existing within older episodes of Trek.\n
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          The only one insulting your intelligence is yourself by believing you’re not creative enough to figure out how the spore drive fits into the larger world of Trek.
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          Star Trek has never been hard science fiction, though.\n
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          How is the spore drive any more fantastical than half of what happens in Trek?
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        +body: "You’re not wrong, but I do feel like that’s an over correction. They might as well have had text flashing at the bottom of the screen which read, “Sorry for the holograms, we didn’t realize how angry some of you would get.”"
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          Not for the most part.\n
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          I would probably be more annoyed by the Klingon cloaking devices in season one if not for the fact that ship had already sailed when ENT established that the Romulans already had that technology a hundred years before “Balance of Terror”, and oh, so did the Suliban and the XyrIllians whom the crew of the *Nx-01* also encountered.\n
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          The big one – relatively speaking, of course – in my mind is the site to site transporting.\n
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          > In Discovery, instead of honorable warriors, the klingons are a bunch of sneaky backstabbing and coward warriors.\n
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          Like they are in TOS?\n
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          > They also don’t look like klingons at all\n
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          Are you similarly upset by the change in appearance the occurred between TOS and TMP?\n
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          > and architecture\n
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          Architecture? I don’t know, the House Mo’Kai fortress we see in season two doesn’t seem all that out of place. The rounded towers of the capital city seen in ENT is a greater divergence than anything we see in Disco. But that’s also fine, because architectural styles change over time.\n
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          > the speak like their mouth is full of potatoes\n
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          > Mushrooms have significantly less mysticism associated with them\n
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          Yeah, I like Disco because I think they’re at least trying to do something, and that’s interesting to me. They don’t always succeed, but I respect the attempt. However, I fully get why people don’t like it.\n
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          Fuckin’ jeepers, this is grasping at straws.\n
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          What specific lore about the Klingons was abandoned by Disco. Just one specific thing. Any single, specific thing.
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          Lorca’s not the only one who uses it in Disco, though. It actually happens relatively frequently in the first two season. Obviously for seasons three and four things have changed and it’s no longer an issue.\n
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          Hell, in SNW while Kirk is on the *Enterprise* in “Subspace Rhapsody” he prepares some samples collected outside the ship to be beamed to engineering and thinks nothing of that instance of intra-ship beaming. I guess he forgot that whole event where people broke out into song by the time he was mid-way through his own five year mission.
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        +body: "What specific lore has been disregarded?"
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          Depends on the episode.\n
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          When Quark is abducted from Deep Space 9 in “House of Quark” he’s taken clear across the entire Federation and into the Klingon Empire in about a day. And then D’Ghor sends someone to the station to grab Rom and get him back to Qo’noS the next day.\n
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          Trek moves at the speed of plot.
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          But it’s not a trail of spores going through space, and nothing in the show would lead someone who’d been paying the slightest amount of attention to think that’s the case.\n
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          The mycelial network is a layer of subspace, which the spore drive allows them to access because the specific fungus they cultivate exists partially in subspace. Stamets makes that clear in “Choose Your Pain”.\n
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          Subspace is entirely made up facilitate the stories that Trek tells. It was first mentioned in “Mudd’s Women”, the fourth episode of TOS to be produced. It has since served as a means of instantaneous communication across lightyears, as well as long range imaging vis subspace telescope, such as in “The Nth Degree”. The sensors aboard the ships also operate via subspace, allowing them to detect things lightyears away, and detect things ahead of them while travelling faster than light.\n
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          And we learned in the TNG episode “Schisms” that subspace can support life, and even has beings living there. Or at least some aspects of subspace do.\n
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          The spore drive in based on the real science of mycology, and extrapolated through a Trek lens. Nothing about it requires any sort of special property that has not already been established as existing within older episodes of Trek.\n
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          The only one insulting your intelligence is yourself by believing you’re not creative enough to figure out how the spore drive fits into the larger world of Trek.
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          Star Trek has never been hard science fiction, though.\n
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          How is the spore drive any more fantastical than half of what happens in Trek?
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        +body: "You’re not wrong, but I do feel like that’s an over correction. They might as well have had text flashing at the bottom of the screen which read, “Sorry for the holograms, we didn’t realize how angry some of you would get.”"
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          Not for the most part.\n
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          I would probably be more annoyed by the Klingon cloaking devices in season one if not for the fact that ship had already sailed when ENT established that the Romulans already had that technology a hundred years before “Balance of Terror”, and oh, so did the Suliban and the XyrIllians whom the crew of the *Nx-01* also encountered.\n
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          But yeah, the idea of a technology existing but not being widely used doesn’t bump me at all. This is like getting mad that when you go into watch the latest Marvel movie and they’re not using [Smell-O-Vision](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smell-O-Vision). The technology exists! Hell, I can’t remember the last movie I saw in theatre that was 3d. Obviously they still exist, but it’s not a technology that’s really taken off once the gimmick lost its lustre. Or think about how many people, especially young people, prefer to text over talking on the phone.\n
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          So yeah, I don’t think anything is cheapened by the idea that a technology exists by is not widely used, and I do think it’s silly that anyone would make that argument.
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          The big one – relatively speaking, of course – in my mind is the site to site transporting.\n
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          In “Day of the Dove”, Kirk asks Spock, *”Intra-ship beaming, is it possible?”* and Spock rattled off a litany of reasons why it was considered too dangerous in all but the most necessary circumstances.\n
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          However, we see in Disco, starting with “Context is for Kings”, that they can just order the computer to transport them from one room of the ship to another without hesitation.\n
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          It’s a minor quibble all things considered. And clearly something most of the Disco detractors aren’t even aware of.
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        +body: "Not to mention the specific spores required for the drive to connect with the mycelial network come from one specific type of fungus that exists at least partially within subspace and doesn’t seem to be all that common."
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          > In Discovery, instead of honorable warriors, the klingons are a bunch of sneaky backstabbing and coward warriors.\n
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          Like they are in TOS?\n
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          > They also don’t look like klingons at all\n
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          Are you similarly upset by the change in appearance the occurred between TOS and TMP?\n
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          > and architecture\n
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          Architecture? I don’t know, the House Mo’Kai fortress we see in season two doesn’t seem all that out of place. The rounded towers of the capital city seen in ENT is a greater divergence than anything we see in Disco. But that’s also fine, because architectural styles change over time.\n
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          > the speak like their mouth is full of potatoes\n
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          One ship. The home of a cult leader.
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          > Mushrooms have significantly less mysticism associated with them\n
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          Ah yes, psychedelics are famously not associated with mysticism.\n
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          > The closest comparison to the mycelial network is Yggdrasil, which is solidly in the high fantasy category rather than sci-fi.\n
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          The closest comparison is actual fungal networks that exist beneath forests supporting life through the transference of nutrients and biochemical communication, are some of the largest organisms on the planet, and are actual nonfiction science.\n
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          Yeah, I like Disco because I think they’re at least trying to do something, and that’s interesting to me. They don’t always succeed, but I respect the attempt. However, I fully get why people don’t like it.\n
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          Fuckin’ jeepers, this is grasping at straws.\n
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          There’s no “lore” regarding the spore drive or the uniforms, so nothing to disregard.\n
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          What specific lore about the Klingons was abandoned by Disco. Just one specific thing. Any single, specific thing.
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          Lorca’s not the only one who uses it in Disco, though. It actually happens relatively frequently in the first two season. Obviously for seasons three and four things have changed and it’s no longer an issue.\n
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          Depends on the episode.\n
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          But it’s not a trail of spores going through space, and nothing in the show would lead someone who’d been paying the slightest amount of attention to think that’s the case.\n
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          The mycelial network is a layer of subspace, which the spore drive allows them to access because the specific fungus they cultivate exists partially in subspace. Stamets makes that clear in “Choose Your Pain”.\n
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          Subspace is entirely made up facilitate the stories that Trek tells. It was first mentioned in “Mudd’s Women”, the fourth episode of TOS to be produced. It has since served as a means of instantaneous communication across lightyears, as well as long range imaging vis subspace telescope, such as in “The Nth Degree”. The sensors aboard the ships also operate via subspace, allowing them to detect things lightyears away, and detect things ahead of them while travelling faster than light.\n
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          And we learned in the TNG episode “Schisms” that subspace can support life, and even has beings living there. Or at least some aspects of subspace do.\n
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          The spore drive in based on the real science of mycology, and extrapolated through a Trek lens. Nothing about it requires any sort of special property that has not already been established as existing within older episodes of Trek.\n
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          Star Trek has never been hard science fiction, though.\n
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        +body: "You’re not wrong, but I do feel like that’s an over correction. They might as well have had text flashing at the bottom of the screen which read, “Sorry for the holograms, we didn’t realize how angry some of you would get.”"
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          Not for the most part.\n
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          I would probably be more annoyed by the Klingon cloaking devices in season one if not for the fact that ship had already sailed when ENT established that the Romulans already had that technology a hundred years before “Balance of Terror”, and oh, so did the Suliban and the XyrIllians whom the crew of the *Nx-01* also encountered.\n
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          So yeah, I don’t think anything is cheapened by the idea that a technology exists by is not widely used, and I do think it’s silly that anyone would make that argument.
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          The big one – relatively speaking, of course – in my mind is the site to site transporting.\n
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        +body: "Not to mention the specific spores required for the drive to connect with the mycelial network come from one specific type of fungus that exists at least partially within subspace and doesn’t seem to be all that common."
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          > In Discovery, instead of honorable warriors, the klingons are a bunch of sneaky backstabbing and coward warriors.\n
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          Like they are in TOS?\n
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          > They also don’t look like klingons at all\n
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          > and architecture\n
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          One ship. The home of a cult leader.
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          > Mushrooms have significantly less mysticism associated with them\n
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          Ah yes, psychedelics are famously not associated with mysticism.\n
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          > The closest comparison to the mycelial network is Yggdrasil, which is solidly in the high fantasy category rather than sci-fi.\n
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          The closest comparison is actual fungal networks that exist beneath forests supporting life through the transference of nutrients and biochemical communication, are some of the largest organisms on the planet, and are actual nonfiction science.\n
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          > All that is to say, I think the mycelial network needed more time to set up than the show gave it.\n
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          I think I can agree with you to some extent there. Stamets, by virtue of being standoffish and prickly when the character is introduced, is not the best at explaining things, and the concept could have used a better explanation early on to mitigate the response I’m complaining about with this post.
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          Yeah, I like Disco because I think they’re at least trying to do something, and that’s interesting to me. They don’t always succeed, but I respect the attempt. However, I fully get why people don’t like it.\n
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          My issue is with the silly complaints, not what amounts to a matter of taste.
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          Fuckin’ jeepers, this is grasping at straws.\n
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          There’s no “lore” regarding the spore drive or the uniforms, so nothing to disregard.\n
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          What specific lore about the Klingons was abandoned by Disco. Just one specific thing. Any single, specific thing.
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          Lorca’s not the only one who uses it in Disco, though. It actually happens relatively frequently in the first two season. Obviously for seasons three and four things have changed and it’s no longer an issue.\n
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          Hell, in SNW while Kirk is on the *Enterprise* in “Subspace Rhapsody” he prepares some samples collected outside the ship to be beamed to engineering and thinks nothing of that instance of intra-ship beaming. I guess he forgot that whole event where people broke out into song by the time he was mid-way through his own five year mission.
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        +body: "What specific lore has been disregarded?"
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          Depends on the episode.\n
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          When Quark is abducted from Deep Space 9 in “House of Quark” he’s taken clear across the entire Federation and into the Klingon Empire in about a day. And then D’Ghor sends someone to the station to grab Rom and get him back to Qo’noS the next day.\n
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          Trek moves at the speed of plot.
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          But it’s not a trail of spores going through space, and nothing in the show would lead someone who’d been paying the slightest amount of attention to think that’s the case.\n
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          The mycelial network is a layer of subspace, which the spore drive allows them to access because the specific fungus they cultivate exists partially in subspace. Stamets makes that clear in “Choose Your Pain”.\n
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          Subspace is entirely made up facilitate the stories that Trek tells. It was first mentioned in “Mudd’s Women”, the fourth episode of TOS to be produced. It has since served as a means of instantaneous communication across lightyears, as well as long range imaging vis subspace telescope, such as in “The Nth Degree”. The sensors aboard the ships also operate via subspace, allowing them to detect things lightyears away, and detect things ahead of them while travelling faster than light.\n
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          And we learned in the TNG episode “Schisms” that subspace can support life, and even has beings living there. Or at least some aspects of subspace do.\n
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          The spore drive in based on the real science of mycology, and extrapolated through a Trek lens. Nothing about it requires any sort of special property that has not already been established as existing within older episodes of Trek.\n
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          The only one insulting your intelligence is yourself by believing you’re not creative enough to figure out how the spore drive fits into the larger world of Trek.
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          Star Trek has never been hard science fiction, though.\n
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          How is the spore drive any more fantastical than half of what happens in Trek?
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          Not for the most part.\n
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          I would probably be more annoyed by the Klingon cloaking devices in season one if not for the fact that ship had already sailed when ENT established that the Romulans already had that technology a hundred years before “Balance of Terror”, and oh, so did the Suliban and the XyrIllians whom the crew of the *Nx-01* also encountered.\n
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          Not to mention there’s a throw away line in one episode of season one about how the sensors are picking up massive power readings but can’t actually pinpoint the ships, and in “Balance of Terror” Spock notes that the Romulans must have figured out a way to bend light around their ship without the tremendous power draw. I have to assume someone on the writing team was trying to square that circle.\n
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          But yeah, the idea of a technology existing but not being widely used doesn’t bump me at all. This is like getting mad that when you go into watch the latest Marvel movie and they’re not using [Smell-O-Vision](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smell-O-Vision). The technology exists! Hell, I can’t remember the last movie I saw in theatre that was 3d. Obviously they still exist, but it’s not a technology that’s really taken off once the gimmick lost its lustre. Or think about how many people, especially young people, prefer to text over talking on the phone.\n
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          So yeah, I don’t think anything is cheapened by the idea that a technology exists by is not widely used, and I do think it’s silly that anyone would make that argument.
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          The big one – relatively speaking, of course – in my mind is the site to site transporting.\n
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          > In Discovery, instead of honorable warriors, the klingons are a bunch of sneaky backstabbing and coward warriors.\n
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          Like they are in TOS?\n
          \n
          > They also don’t look like klingons at all\n
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          Are you similarly upset by the change in appearance the occurred between TOS and TMP?\n
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          > and architecture\n
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          Architecture? I don’t know, the House Mo’Kai fortress we see in season two doesn’t seem all that out of place. The rounded towers of the capital city seen in ENT is a greater divergence than anything we see in Disco. But that’s also fine, because architectural styles change over time.\n
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          > the speak like their mouth is full of potatoes\n
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          > they make ships out of coffins.\n
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          One ship. The home of a cult leader.
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          > Mushrooms have significantly less mysticism associated with them\n
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          Ah yes, psychedelics are famously not associated with mysticism.\n
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          > The closest comparison to the mycelial network is Yggdrasil, which is solidly in the high fantasy category rather than sci-fi.\n
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          The closest comparison is actual fungal networks that exist beneath forests supporting life through the transference of nutrients and biochemical communication, are some of the largest organisms on the planet, and are actual nonfiction science.\n
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          Yeah, I like Disco because I think they’re at least trying to do something, and that’s interesting to me. They don’t always succeed, but I respect the attempt. However, I fully get why people don’t like it.\n
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          Fuckin’ jeepers, this is grasping at straws.\n
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          There’s no “lore” regarding the spore drive or the uniforms, so nothing to disregard.\n
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          What specific lore about the Klingons was abandoned by Disco. Just one specific thing. Any single, specific thing.
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          Lorca’s not the only one who uses it in Disco, though. It actually happens relatively frequently in the first two season. Obviously for seasons three and four things have changed and it’s no longer an issue.\n
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          Hell, in SNW while Kirk is on the *Enterprise* in “Subspace Rhapsody” he prepares some samples collected outside the ship to be beamed to engineering and thinks nothing of that instance of intra-ship beaming. I guess he forgot that whole event where people broke out into song by the time he was mid-way through his own five year mission.
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        +body: "What specific lore has been disregarded?"
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          Depends on the episode.\n
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          When Quark is abducted from Deep Space 9 in “House of Quark” he’s taken clear across the entire Federation and into the Klingon Empire in about a day. And then D’Ghor sends someone to the station to grab Rom and get him back to Qo’noS the next day.\n
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          Trek moves at the speed of plot.
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          But it’s not a trail of spores going through space, and nothing in the show would lead someone who’d been paying the slightest amount of attention to think that’s the case.\n
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          The mycelial network is a layer of subspace, which the spore drive allows them to access because the specific fungus they cultivate exists partially in subspace. Stamets makes that clear in “Choose Your Pain”.\n
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          Subspace is entirely made up facilitate the stories that Trek tells. It was first mentioned in “Mudd’s Women”, the fourth episode of TOS to be produced. It has since served as a means of instantaneous communication across lightyears, as well as long range imaging vis subspace telescope, such as in “The Nth Degree”. The sensors aboard the ships also operate via subspace, allowing them to detect things lightyears away, and detect things ahead of them while travelling faster than light.\n
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          And we learned in the TNG episode “Schisms” that subspace can support life, and even has beings living there. Or at least some aspects of subspace do.\n
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          The spore drive in based on the real science of mycology, and extrapolated through a Trek lens. Nothing about it requires any sort of special property that has not already been established as existing within older episodes of Trek.\n
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          The only one insulting your intelligence is yourself by believing you’re not creative enough to figure out how the spore drive fits into the larger world of Trek.
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          Star Trek has never been hard science fiction, though.\n
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          How is the spore drive any more fantastical than half of what happens in Trek?
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          Not for the most part.\n
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          I would probably be more annoyed by the Klingon cloaking devices in season one if not for the fact that ship had already sailed when ENT established that the Romulans already had that technology a hundred years before “Balance of Terror”, and oh, so did the Suliban and the XyrIllians whom the crew of the *Nx-01* also encountered.\n
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          But yeah, the idea of a technology existing but not being widely used doesn’t bump me at all. This is like getting mad that when you go into watch the latest Marvel movie and they’re not using [Smell-O-Vision](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smell-O-Vision). The technology exists! Hell, I can’t remember the last movie I saw in theatre that was 3d. Obviously they still exist, but it’s not a technology that’s really taken off once the gimmick lost its lustre. Or think about how many people, especially young people, prefer to text over talking on the phone.\n
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          So yeah, I don’t think anything is cheapened by the idea that a technology exists by is not widely used, and I do think it’s silly that anyone would make that argument.
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          The big one – relatively speaking, of course – in my mind is the site to site transporting.\n
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          However, we see in Disco, starting with “Context is for Kings”, that they can just order the computer to transport them from one room of the ship to another without hesitation.\n
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          It’s a minor quibble all things considered. And clearly something most of the Disco detractors aren’t even aware of.
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        +body: "Not to mention the specific spores required for the drive to connect with the mycelial network come from one specific type of fungus that exists at least partially within subspace and doesn’t seem to be all that common."
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          > In Discovery, instead of honorable warriors, the klingons are a bunch of sneaky backstabbing and coward warriors.\n
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          Like they are in TOS?\n
          \n
          > They also don’t look like klingons at all\n
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          Are you similarly upset by the change in appearance the occurred between TOS and TMP?\n
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          > and architecture\n
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          Architecture? I don’t know, the House Mo’Kai fortress we see in season two doesn’t seem all that out of place. The rounded towers of the capital city seen in ENT is a greater divergence than anything we see in Disco. But that’s also fine, because architectural styles change over time.\n
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          > the speak like their mouth is full of potatoes\n
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          And apparently, according to experts in the language, that’s the best Klingon has ever sounded on screen. Not really sure how that qualifies as a lore thing, though.\n
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          > they make ships out of coffins.\n
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          One ship. The home of a cult leader.
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  +body: "You’re not wrong, but I do feel like that’s an over correction. They might as well have had text flashing at the bottom of the screen which read, “Sorry for the holograms, we didn’t realize how angry some of you would get.”"
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          > Mushrooms have significantly less mysticism associated with them\n
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          Ah yes, psychedelics are famously not associated with mysticism.\n
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          > The closest comparison to the mycelial network is Yggdrasil, which is solidly in the high fantasy category rather than sci-fi.\n
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          The closest comparison is actual fungal networks that exist beneath forests supporting life through the transference of nutrients and biochemical communication, are some of the largest organisms on the planet, and are actual nonfiction science.\n
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          > All that is to say, I think the mycelial network needed more time to set up than the show gave it.\n
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          I think I can agree with you to some extent there. Stamets, by virtue of being standoffish and prickly when the character is introduced, is not the best at explaining things, and the concept could have used a better explanation early on to mitigate the response I’m complaining about with this post.
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          Yeah, I like Disco because I think they’re at least trying to do something, and that’s interesting to me. They don’t always succeed, but I respect the attempt. However, I fully get why people don’t like it.\n
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          My issue is with the silly complaints, not what amounts to a matter of taste.
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          Fuckin’ jeepers, this is grasping at straws.\n
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          There’s no “lore” regarding the spore drive or the uniforms, so nothing to disregard.\n
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          What specific lore about the Klingons was abandoned by Disco. Just one specific thing. Any single, specific thing.
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          Lorca’s not the only one who uses it in Disco, though. It actually happens relatively frequently in the first two season. Obviously for seasons three and four things have changed and it’s no longer an issue.\n
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          Hell, in SNW while Kirk is on the *Enterprise* in “Subspace Rhapsody” he prepares some samples collected outside the ship to be beamed to engineering and thinks nothing of that instance of intra-ship beaming. I guess he forgot that whole event where people broke out into song by the time he was mid-way through his own five year mission.
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          Depends on the episode.\n
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          When Quark is abducted from Deep Space 9 in “House of Quark” he’s taken clear across the entire Federation and into the Klingon Empire in about a day. And then D’Ghor sends someone to the station to grab Rom and get him back to Qo’noS the next day.\n
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          But it’s not a trail of spores going through space, and nothing in the show would lead someone who’d been paying the slightest amount of attention to think that’s the case.\n
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          The mycelial network is a layer of subspace, which the spore drive allows them to access because the specific fungus they cultivate exists partially in subspace. Stamets makes that clear in “Choose Your Pain”.\n
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          Subspace is entirely made up facilitate the stories that Trek tells. It was first mentioned in “Mudd’s Women”, the fourth episode of TOS to be produced. It has since served as a means of instantaneous communication across lightyears, as well as long range imaging vis subspace telescope, such as in “The Nth Degree”. The sensors aboard the ships also operate via subspace, allowing them to detect things lightyears away, and detect things ahead of them while travelling faster than light.\n
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          Star Trek has never been hard science fiction, though.\n
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          Not for the most part.\n
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          I would probably be more annoyed by the Klingon cloaking devices in season one if not for the fact that ship had already sailed when ENT established that the Romulans already had that technology a hundred years before “Balance of Terror”, and oh, so did the Suliban and the XyrIllians whom the crew of the *Nx-01* also encountered.\n
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          The big one – relatively speaking, of course – in my mind is the site to site transporting.\n
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        +body: "Not to mention the specific spores required for the drive to connect with the mycelial network come from one specific type of fungus that exists at least partially within subspace and doesn’t seem to be all that common."
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          > In Discovery, instead of honorable warriors, the klingons are a bunch of sneaky backstabbing and coward warriors.\n
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          Like they are in TOS?\n
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          > They also don’t look like klingons at all\n
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          Are you similarly upset by the change in appearance the occurred between TOS and TMP?\n
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          > and architecture\n
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          One ship. The home of a cult leader.
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  +body: "You’re not wrong, but I do feel like that’s an over correction. They might as well have had text flashing at the bottom of the screen which read, “Sorry for the holograms, we didn’t realize how angry some of you would get.”"
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          > Mushrooms have significantly less mysticism associated with them\n
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          > The closest comparison to the mycelial network is Yggdrasil, which is solidly in the high fantasy category rather than sci-fi.\n
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          The closest comparison is actual fungal networks that exist beneath forests supporting life through the transference of nutrients and biochemical communication, are some of the largest organisms on the planet, and are actual nonfiction science.\n
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          > All that is to say, I think the mycelial network needed more time to set up than the show gave it.\n
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          I think I can agree with you to some extent there. Stamets, by virtue of being standoffish and prickly when the character is introduced, is not the best at explaining things, and the concept could have used a better explanation early on to mitigate the response I’m complaining about with this post.
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          Yeah, I like Disco because I think they’re at least trying to do something, and that’s interesting to me. They don’t always succeed, but I respect the attempt. However, I fully get why people don’t like it.\n
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          Fuckin’ jeepers, this is grasping at straws.\n
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          There’s no “lore” regarding the spore drive or the uniforms, so nothing to disregard.\n
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          What specific lore about the Klingons was abandoned by Disco. Just one specific thing. Any single, specific thing.
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          Lorca’s not the only one who uses it in Disco, though. It actually happens relatively frequently in the first two season. Obviously for seasons three and four things have changed and it’s no longer an issue.\n
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          Depends on the episode.\n
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          When Quark is abducted from Deep Space 9 in “House of Quark” he’s taken clear across the entire Federation and into the Klingon Empire in about a day. And then D’Ghor sends someone to the station to grab Rom and get him back to Qo’noS the next day.\n
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          But it’s not a trail of spores going through space, and nothing in the show would lead someone who’d been paying the slightest amount of attention to think that’s the case.\n
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          The mycelial network is a layer of subspace, which the spore drive allows them to access because the specific fungus they cultivate exists partially in subspace. Stamets makes that clear in “Choose Your Pain”.\n
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          Subspace is entirely made up facilitate the stories that Trek tells. It was first mentioned in “Mudd’s Women”, the fourth episode of TOS to be produced. It has since served as a means of instantaneous communication across lightyears, as well as long range imaging vis subspace telescope, such as in “The Nth Degree”. The sensors aboard the ships also operate via subspace, allowing them to detect things lightyears away, and detect things ahead of them while travelling faster than light.\n
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          The spore drive in based on the real science of mycology, and extrapolated through a Trek lens. Nothing about it requires any sort of special property that has not already been established as existing within older episodes of Trek.\n
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          Star Trek has never been hard science fiction, though.\n
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          How is the spore drive any more fantastical than half of what happens in Trek?
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          The big one – relatively speaking, of course – in my mind is the site to site transporting.\n
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          > In Discovery, instead of honorable warriors, the klingons are a bunch of sneaky backstabbing and coward warriors.\n
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          Like they are in TOS?\n
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          > They also don’t look like klingons at all\n
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          Are you similarly upset by the change in appearance the occurred between TOS and TMP?\n
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          > and architecture\n
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          Architecture? I don’t know, the House Mo’Kai fortress we see in season two doesn’t seem all that out of place. The rounded towers of the capital city seen in ENT is a greater divergence than anything we see in Disco. But that’s also fine, because architectural styles change over time.\n
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          One ship. The home of a cult leader.
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    Not for the most part.\n
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    I would probably be more annoyed by the Klingon cloaking devices in season one if not for the fact that ship had already sailed when ENT established that the Romulans already had that technology a hundred years before “Balance of Terror”, and oh, so did the Suliban and the XyrIllians whom the crew of the *Nx-01* also encountered.\n
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    But yeah, the idea of a technology existing but not being widely used doesn’t bump me at all. This is like getting mad that when you go into watch the latest Marvel movie and they’re not using [Smell-O-Vision](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smell-O-Vision). The technology exists! Hell, I can’t remember the last movie I saw in theatre that was 3d. Obviously they still exist, but it’s not a technology that’s really taken off once the gimmick lost its lustre. Or think about how many people, especially young people, prefer to text over talking on the phone.\n
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    So yeah, I don’t think anything is cheapened by the idea that a technology exists by is not widely used, and I do think it’s silly that anyone would make that argument.
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          > Mushrooms have significantly less mysticism associated with them\n
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          Ah yes, psychedelics are famously not associated with mysticism.\n
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          The closest comparison is actual fungal networks that exist beneath forests supporting life through the transference of nutrients and biochemical communication, are some of the largest organisms on the planet, and are actual nonfiction science.\n
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          I think I can agree with you to some extent there. Stamets, by virtue of being standoffish and prickly when the character is introduced, is not the best at explaining things, and the concept could have used a better explanation early on to mitigate the response I’m complaining about with this post.
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          Yeah, I like Disco because I think they’re at least trying to do something, and that’s interesting to me. They don’t always succeed, but I respect the attempt. However, I fully get why people don’t like it.\n
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          Fuckin’ jeepers, this is grasping at straws.\n
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          There’s no “lore” regarding the spore drive or the uniforms, so nothing to disregard.\n
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          What specific lore about the Klingons was abandoned by Disco. Just one specific thing. Any single, specific thing.
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          Lorca’s not the only one who uses it in Disco, though. It actually happens relatively frequently in the first two season. Obviously for seasons three and four things have changed and it’s no longer an issue.\n
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          Hell, in SNW while Kirk is on the *Enterprise* in “Subspace Rhapsody” he prepares some samples collected outside the ship to be beamed to engineering and thinks nothing of that instance of intra-ship beaming. I guess he forgot that whole event where people broke out into song by the time he was mid-way through his own five year mission.
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        +body: "What specific lore has been disregarded?"
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          Depends on the episode.\n
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          When Quark is abducted from Deep Space 9 in “House of Quark” he’s taken clear across the entire Federation and into the Klingon Empire in about a day. And then D’Ghor sends someone to the station to grab Rom and get him back to Qo’noS the next day.\n
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          Trek moves at the speed of plot.
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          But it’s not a trail of spores going through space, and nothing in the show would lead someone who’d been paying the slightest amount of attention to think that’s the case.\n
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          The mycelial network is a layer of subspace, which the spore drive allows them to access because the specific fungus they cultivate exists partially in subspace. Stamets makes that clear in “Choose Your Pain”.\n
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          Subspace is entirely made up facilitate the stories that Trek tells. It was first mentioned in “Mudd’s Women”, the fourth episode of TOS to be produced. It has since served as a means of instantaneous communication across lightyears, as well as long range imaging vis subspace telescope, such as in “The Nth Degree”. The sensors aboard the ships also operate via subspace, allowing them to detect things lightyears away, and detect things ahead of them while travelling faster than light.\n
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          And we learned in the TNG episode “Schisms” that subspace can support life, and even has beings living there. Or at least some aspects of subspace do.\n
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          The spore drive in based on the real science of mycology, and extrapolated through a Trek lens. Nothing about it requires any sort of special property that has not already been established as existing within older episodes of Trek.\n
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          The only one insulting your intelligence is yourself by believing you’re not creative enough to figure out how the spore drive fits into the larger world of Trek.
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          Star Trek has never been hard science fiction, though.\n
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          How is the spore drive any more fantastical than half of what happens in Trek?
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        +body: "You’re not wrong, but I do feel like that’s an over correction. They might as well have had text flashing at the bottom of the screen which read, “Sorry for the holograms, we didn’t realize how angry some of you would get.”"
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          The big one – relatively speaking, of course – in my mind is the site to site transporting.\n
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          In “Day of the Dove”, Kirk asks Spock, *”Intra-ship beaming, is it possible?”* and Spock rattled off a litany of reasons why it was considered too dangerous in all but the most necessary circumstances.\n
          \n
          However, we see in Disco, starting with “Context is for Kings”, that they can just order the computer to transport them from one room of the ship to another without hesitation.\n
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        +body: "Not to mention the specific spores required for the drive to connect with the mycelial network come from one specific type of fungus that exists at least partially within subspace and doesn’t seem to be all that common."
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          > In Discovery, instead of honorable warriors, the klingons are a bunch of sneaky backstabbing and coward warriors.\n
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          Like they are in TOS?\n
          \n
          > They also don’t look like klingons at all\n
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          Are you similarly upset by the change in appearance the occurred between TOS and TMP?\n
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          > and architecture\n
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          Architecture? I don’t know, the House Mo’Kai fortress we see in season two doesn’t seem all that out of place. The rounded towers of the capital city seen in ENT is a greater divergence than anything we see in Disco. But that’s also fine, because architectural styles change over time.\n
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          > the speak like their mouth is full of potatoes\n
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          > they make ships out of coffins.\n
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          One ship. The home of a cult leader.
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    Not for the most part.\n
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    I would probably be more annoyed by the Klingon cloaking devices in season one if not for the fact that ship had already sailed when ENT established that the Romulans already had that technology a hundred years before “Balance of Terror”, and oh, so did the Suliban and the XyrIllians whom the crew of the *Nx-01* also encountered.\n
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    Not to mention there’s a throw away line in one episode of season one about how the sensors are picking up massive power readings but can’t actually pinpoint the ships, and in “Balance of Terror” Spock notes that the Romulans must have figured out a way to bend light around their ship without the tremendous power draw. I have to assume someone on the writing team was trying to square that circle.\n
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    But yeah, the idea of a technology existing but not being widely used doesn’t bump me at all. This is like getting mad that when you go into watch the latest Marvel movie and they’re not using [Smell-O-Vision](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smell-O-Vision). The technology exists! Hell, I can’t remember the last movie I saw in theatre that was 3d. Obviously they still exist, but it’s not a technology that’s really taken off once the gimmick lost its lustre. Or think about how many people, especially young people, prefer to text over talking on the phone.\n
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    So yeah, I don’t think anything is cheapened by the idea that a technology exists by is not widely used, and I do think it’s silly that anyone would make that argument.
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          > Mushrooms have significantly less mysticism associated with them\n
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          Ah yes, psychedelics are famously not associated with mysticism.\n
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          > The closest comparison to the mycelial network is Yggdrasil, which is solidly in the high fantasy category rather than sci-fi.\n
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          The closest comparison is actual fungal networks that exist beneath forests supporting life through the transference of nutrients and biochemical communication, are some of the largest organisms on the planet, and are actual nonfiction science.\n
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          I think I can agree with you to some extent there. Stamets, by virtue of being standoffish and prickly when the character is introduced, is not the best at explaining things, and the concept could have used a better explanation early on to mitigate the response I’m complaining about with this post.
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          Yeah, I like Disco because I think they’re at least trying to do something, and that’s interesting to me. They don’t always succeed, but I respect the attempt. However, I fully get why people don’t like it.\n
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          Fuckin’ jeepers, this is grasping at straws.\n
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          There’s no “lore” regarding the spore drive or the uniforms, so nothing to disregard.\n
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          What specific lore about the Klingons was abandoned by Disco. Just one specific thing. Any single, specific thing.
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          Lorca’s not the only one who uses it in Disco, though. It actually happens relatively frequently in the first two season. Obviously for seasons three and four things have changed and it’s no longer an issue.\n
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          Depends on the episode.\n
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          When Quark is abducted from Deep Space 9 in “House of Quark” he’s taken clear across the entire Federation and into the Klingon Empire in about a day. And then D’Ghor sends someone to the station to grab Rom and get him back to Qo’noS the next day.\n
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          Trek moves at the speed of plot.
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          But it’s not a trail of spores going through space, and nothing in the show would lead someone who’d been paying the slightest amount of attention to think that’s the case.\n
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          The mycelial network is a layer of subspace, which the spore drive allows them to access because the specific fungus they cultivate exists partially in subspace. Stamets makes that clear in “Choose Your Pain”.\n
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          Subspace is entirely made up facilitate the stories that Trek tells. It was first mentioned in “Mudd’s Women”, the fourth episode of TOS to be produced. It has since served as a means of instantaneous communication across lightyears, as well as long range imaging vis subspace telescope, such as in “The Nth Degree”. The sensors aboard the ships also operate via subspace, allowing them to detect things lightyears away, and detect things ahead of them while travelling faster than light.\n
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          Star Trek has never been hard science fiction, though.\n
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          How is the spore drive any more fantastical than half of what happens in Trek?
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        +body: "You’re not wrong, but I do feel like that’s an over correction. They might as well have had text flashing at the bottom of the screen which read, “Sorry for the holograms, we didn’t realize how angry some of you would get.”"
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          The big one – relatively speaking, of course – in my mind is the site to site transporting.\n
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          In “Day of the Dove”, Kirk asks Spock, *”Intra-ship beaming, is it possible?”* and Spock rattled off a litany of reasons why it was considered too dangerous in all but the most necessary circumstances.\n
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          However, we see in Disco, starting with “Context is for Kings”, that they can just order the computer to transport them from one room of the ship to another without hesitation.\n
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          It’s a minor quibble all things considered. And clearly something most of the Disco detractors aren’t even aware of.
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        +body: "Not to mention the specific spores required for the drive to connect with the mycelial network come from one specific type of fungus that exists at least partially within subspace and doesn’t seem to be all that common."
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          > In Discovery, instead of honorable warriors, the klingons are a bunch of sneaky backstabbing and coward warriors.\n
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          Like they are in TOS?\n
          \n
          > They also don’t look like klingons at all\n
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          Are you similarly upset by the change in appearance the occurred between TOS and TMP?\n
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          > and architecture\n
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          Architecture? I don’t know, the House Mo’Kai fortress we see in season two doesn’t seem all that out of place. The rounded towers of the capital city seen in ENT is a greater divergence than anything we see in Disco. But that’s also fine, because architectural styles change over time.\n
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          > the speak like their mouth is full of potatoes\n
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          > they make ships out of coffins.\n
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          One ship. The home of a cult leader.
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    Not for the most part.\n
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    I would probably be more annoyed by the Klingon cloaking devices in season one if not for the fact that ship had already sailed when ENT established that the Romulans already had that technology a hundred years before “Balance of Terror”, and oh, so did the Suliban and the XyrIllians whom the crew of the *Nx-01* also encountered.\n
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    Not to mention there’s a throw away line in one episode of season one about how the sensors are picking up massive power readings but can’t actually pinpoint the ships, and in “Balance of Terror” Spock notes that the Romulans must have figured out a way to bend light around their ship without the tremendous power draw. I have to assume someone on the writing team was trying to square that circle.\n
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    But yeah, the idea of a technology existing but not being widely used doesn’t bump me at all. This is like getting mad that when you go into watch the latest Marvel movie and they’re not using [Smell-O-Vision](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smell-O-Vision). The technology exists! Hell, I can’t remember the last movie I saw in theatre that was 3d. Obviously they still exist, but it’s not a technology that’s really taken off once the gimmick lost its lustre. Or think about how many people, especially young people, prefer to text over talking on the phone.\n
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    So yeah, I don’t think anything is cheapened by the idea that a technology exists by is not widely used, and I do think it’s silly that anyone would make that argument.
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          > Mushrooms have significantly less mysticism associated with them\n
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          > The closest comparison to the mycelial network is Yggdrasil, which is solidly in the high fantasy category rather than sci-fi.\n
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          The closest comparison is actual fungal networks that exist beneath forests supporting life through the transference of nutrients and biochemical communication, are some of the largest organisms on the planet, and are actual nonfiction science.\n
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          I think I can agree with you to some extent there. Stamets, by virtue of being standoffish and prickly when the character is introduced, is not the best at explaining things, and the concept could have used a better explanation early on to mitigate the response I’m complaining about with this post.
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          Yeah, I like Disco because I think they’re at least trying to do something, and that’s interesting to me. They don’t always succeed, but I respect the attempt. However, I fully get why people don’t like it.\n
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          Fuckin’ jeepers, this is grasping at straws.\n
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          There’s no “lore” regarding the spore drive or the uniforms, so nothing to disregard.\n
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          What specific lore about the Klingons was abandoned by Disco. Just one specific thing. Any single, specific thing.
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          Lorca’s not the only one who uses it in Disco, though. It actually happens relatively frequently in the first two season. Obviously for seasons three and four things have changed and it’s no longer an issue.\n
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          Hell, in SNW while Kirk is on the *Enterprise* in “Subspace Rhapsody” he prepares some samples collected outside the ship to be beamed to engineering and thinks nothing of that instance of intra-ship beaming. I guess he forgot that whole event where people broke out into song by the time he was mid-way through his own five year mission.
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          Depends on the episode.\n
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          When Quark is abducted from Deep Space 9 in “House of Quark” he’s taken clear across the entire Federation and into the Klingon Empire in about a day. And then D’Ghor sends someone to the station to grab Rom and get him back to Qo’noS the next day.\n
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          But it’s not a trail of spores going through space, and nothing in the show would lead someone who’d been paying the slightest amount of attention to think that’s the case.\n
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          The mycelial network is a layer of subspace, which the spore drive allows them to access because the specific fungus they cultivate exists partially in subspace. Stamets makes that clear in “Choose Your Pain”.\n
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          Subspace is entirely made up facilitate the stories that Trek tells. It was first mentioned in “Mudd’s Women”, the fourth episode of TOS to be produced. It has since served as a means of instantaneous communication across lightyears, as well as long range imaging vis subspace telescope, such as in “The Nth Degree”. The sensors aboard the ships also operate via subspace, allowing them to detect things lightyears away, and detect things ahead of them while travelling faster than light.\n
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          And we learned in the TNG episode “Schisms” that subspace can support life, and even has beings living there. Or at least some aspects of subspace do.\n
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          The spore drive in based on the real science of mycology, and extrapolated through a Trek lens. Nothing about it requires any sort of special property that has not already been established as existing within older episodes of Trek.\n
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          The only one insulting your intelligence is yourself by believing you’re not creative enough to figure out how the spore drive fits into the larger world of Trek.
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          Star Trek has never been hard science fiction, though.\n
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          Not for the most part.\n
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          > In Discovery, instead of honorable warriors, the klingons are a bunch of sneaky backstabbing and coward warriors.\n
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          Like they are in TOS?\n
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          Are you similarly upset by the change in appearance the occurred between TOS and TMP?\n
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          > and architecture\n
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          Architecture? I don’t know, the House Mo’Kai fortress we see in season two doesn’t seem all that out of place. The rounded towers of the capital city seen in ENT is a greater divergence than anything we see in Disco. But that’s also fine, because architectural styles change over time.\n
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          One ship. The home of a cult leader.
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    The big one – relatively speaking, of course – in my mind is the site to site transporting.\n
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    However, we see in Disco, starting with “Context is for Kings”, that they can just order the computer to transport them from one room of the ship to another without hesitation.\n
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          > Mushrooms have significantly less mysticism associated with them\n
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          > The closest comparison to the mycelial network is Yggdrasil, which is solidly in the high fantasy category rather than sci-fi.\n
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          The closest comparison is actual fungal networks that exist beneath forests supporting life through the transference of nutrients and biochemical communication, are some of the largest organisms on the planet, and are actual nonfiction science.\n
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          Yeah, I like Disco because I think they’re at least trying to do something, and that’s interesting to me. They don’t always succeed, but I respect the attempt. However, I fully get why people don’t like it.\n
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          My issue is with the silly complaints, not what amounts to a matter of taste.
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          Fuckin’ jeepers, this is grasping at straws.\n
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          There’s no “lore” regarding the spore drive or the uniforms, so nothing to disregard.\n
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          What specific lore about the Klingons was abandoned by Disco. Just one specific thing. Any single, specific thing.
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          Lorca’s not the only one who uses it in Disco, though. It actually happens relatively frequently in the first two season. Obviously for seasons three and four things have changed and it’s no longer an issue.\n
          \n
          Hell, in SNW while Kirk is on the *Enterprise* in “Subspace Rhapsody” he prepares some samples collected outside the ship to be beamed to engineering and thinks nothing of that instance of intra-ship beaming. I guess he forgot that whole event where people broke out into song by the time he was mid-way through his own five year mission.
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        +body: "What specific lore has been disregarded?"
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          Depends on the episode.\n
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          When Quark is abducted from Deep Space 9 in “House of Quark” he’s taken clear across the entire Federation and into the Klingon Empire in about a day. And then D’Ghor sends someone to the station to grab Rom and get him back to Qo’noS the next day.\n
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          Trek moves at the speed of plot.
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          But it’s not a trail of spores going through space, and nothing in the show would lead someone who’d been paying the slightest amount of attention to think that’s the case.\n
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          The mycelial network is a layer of subspace, which the spore drive allows them to access because the specific fungus they cultivate exists partially in subspace. Stamets makes that clear in “Choose Your Pain”.\n
          \n
          Subspace is entirely made up facilitate the stories that Trek tells. It was first mentioned in “Mudd’s Women”, the fourth episode of TOS to be produced. It has since served as a means of instantaneous communication across lightyears, as well as long range imaging vis subspace telescope, such as in “The Nth Degree”. The sensors aboard the ships also operate via subspace, allowing them to detect things lightyears away, and detect things ahead of them while travelling faster than light.\n
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          And we learned in the TNG episode “Schisms” that subspace can support life, and even has beings living there. Or at least some aspects of subspace do.\n
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          The spore drive in based on the real science of mycology, and extrapolated through a Trek lens. Nothing about it requires any sort of special property that has not already been established as existing within older episodes of Trek.\n
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          The only one insulting your intelligence is yourself by believing you’re not creative enough to figure out how the spore drive fits into the larger world of Trek.
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          Star Trek has never been hard science fiction, though.\n
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          How is the spore drive any more fantastical than half of what happens in Trek?
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        +body: "I wouldn’t say they’re exactly logical…"
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        +body: "You’re not wrong, but I do feel like that’s an over correction. They might as well have had text flashing at the bottom of the screen which read, “Sorry for the holograms, we didn’t realize how angry some of you would get.”"
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          Not for the most part.\n
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          I would probably be more annoyed by the Klingon cloaking devices in season one if not for the fact that ship had already sailed when ENT established that the Romulans already had that technology a hundred years before “Balance of Terror”, and oh, so did the Suliban and the XyrIllians whom the crew of the *Nx-01* also encountered.\n
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          Not to mention there’s a throw away line in one episode of season one about how the sensors are picking up massive power readings but can’t actually pinpoint the ships, and in “Balance of Terror” Spock notes that the Romulans must have figured out a way to bend light around their ship without the tremendous power draw. I have to assume someone on the writing team was trying to square that circle.\n
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          > In Discovery, instead of honorable warriors, the klingons are a bunch of sneaky backstabbing and coward warriors.\n
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          Like they are in TOS?\n
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          > They also don’t look like klingons at all\n
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          Are you similarly upset by the change in appearance the occurred between TOS and TMP?\n
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          > and architecture\n
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          Architecture? I don’t know, the House Mo’Kai fortress we see in season two doesn’t seem all that out of place. The rounded towers of the capital city seen in ENT is a greater divergence than anything we see in Disco. But that’s also fine, because architectural styles change over time.\n
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          One ship. The home of a cult leader.
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    The big one – relatively speaking, of course – in my mind is the site to site transporting.\n
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    In “Day of the Dove”, Kirk asks Spock, *”Intra-ship beaming, is it possible?”* and Spock rattled off a litany of reasons why it was considered too dangerous in all but the most necessary circumstances.\n
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    However, we see in Disco, starting with “Context is for Kings”, that they can just order the computer to transport them from one room of the ship to another without hesitation.\n
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          > Mushrooms have significantly less mysticism associated with them\n
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          Ah yes, psychedelics are famously not associated with mysticism.\n
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          > The closest comparison to the mycelial network is Yggdrasil, which is solidly in the high fantasy category rather than sci-fi.\n
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          The closest comparison is actual fungal networks that exist beneath forests supporting life through the transference of nutrients and biochemical communication, are some of the largest organisms on the planet, and are actual nonfiction science.\n
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          I think I can agree with you to some extent there. Stamets, by virtue of being standoffish and prickly when the character is introduced, is not the best at explaining things, and the concept could have used a better explanation early on to mitigate the response I’m complaining about with this post.
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          Yeah, I like Disco because I think they’re at least trying to do something, and that’s interesting to me. They don’t always succeed, but I respect the attempt. However, I fully get why people don’t like it.\n
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          Fuckin’ jeepers, this is grasping at straws.\n
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          There’s no “lore” regarding the spore drive or the uniforms, so nothing to disregard.\n
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          What specific lore about the Klingons was abandoned by Disco. Just one specific thing. Any single, specific thing.
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          Lorca’s not the only one who uses it in Disco, though. It actually happens relatively frequently in the first two season. Obviously for seasons three and four things have changed and it’s no longer an issue.\n
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        +body: "What specific lore has been disregarded?"
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          Depends on the episode.\n
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          When Quark is abducted from Deep Space 9 in “House of Quark” he’s taken clear across the entire Federation and into the Klingon Empire in about a day. And then D’Ghor sends someone to the station to grab Rom and get him back to Qo’noS the next day.\n
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          Trek moves at the speed of plot.
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          But it’s not a trail of spores going through space, and nothing in the show would lead someone who’d been paying the slightest amount of attention to think that’s the case.\n
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          The mycelial network is a layer of subspace, which the spore drive allows them to access because the specific fungus they cultivate exists partially in subspace. Stamets makes that clear in “Choose Your Pain”.\n
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          Subspace is entirely made up facilitate the stories that Trek tells. It was first mentioned in “Mudd’s Women”, the fourth episode of TOS to be produced. It has since served as a means of instantaneous communication across lightyears, as well as long range imaging vis subspace telescope, such as in “The Nth Degree”. The sensors aboard the ships also operate via subspace, allowing them to detect things lightyears away, and detect things ahead of them while travelling faster than light.\n
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          And we learned in the TNG episode “Schisms” that subspace can support life, and even has beings living there. Or at least some aspects of subspace do.\n
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          The spore drive in based on the real science of mycology, and extrapolated through a Trek lens. Nothing about it requires any sort of special property that has not already been established as existing within older episodes of Trek.\n
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          The only one insulting your intelligence is yourself by believing you’re not creative enough to figure out how the spore drive fits into the larger world of Trek.
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          Star Trek has never been hard science fiction, though.\n
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          How is the spore drive any more fantastical than half of what happens in Trek?
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        +body: "You’re not wrong, but I do feel like that’s an over correction. They might as well have had text flashing at the bottom of the screen which read, “Sorry for the holograms, we didn’t realize how angry some of you would get.”"
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          Not for the most part.\n
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          I would probably be more annoyed by the Klingon cloaking devices in season one if not for the fact that ship had already sailed when ENT established that the Romulans already had that technology a hundred years before “Balance of Terror”, and oh, so did the Suliban and the XyrIllians whom the crew of the *Nx-01* also encountered.\n
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          But yeah, the idea of a technology existing but not being widely used doesn’t bump me at all. This is like getting mad that when you go into watch the latest Marvel movie and they’re not using [Smell-O-Vision](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smell-O-Vision). The technology exists! Hell, I can’t remember the last movie I saw in theatre that was 3d. Obviously they still exist, but it’s not a technology that’s really taken off once the gimmick lost its lustre. Or think about how many people, especially young people, prefer to text over talking on the phone.\n
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          So yeah, I don’t think anything is cheapened by the idea that a technology exists by is not widely used, and I do think it’s silly that anyone would make that argument.
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        +body: "Not to mention the specific spores required for the drive to connect with the mycelial network come from one specific type of fungus that exists at least partially within subspace and doesn’t seem to be all that common."
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          > In Discovery, instead of honorable warriors, the klingons are a bunch of sneaky backstabbing and coward warriors.\n
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          Like they are in TOS?\n
          \n
          > They also don’t look like klingons at all\n
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          Are you similarly upset by the change in appearance the occurred between TOS and TMP?\n
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          > and architecture\n
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          Architecture? I don’t know, the House Mo’Kai fortress we see in season two doesn’t seem all that out of place. The rounded towers of the capital city seen in ENT is a greater divergence than anything we see in Disco. But that’s also fine, because architectural styles change over time.\n
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          > the speak like their mouth is full of potatoes\n
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          > they make ships out of coffins.\n
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          One ship. The home of a cult leader.
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    The big one – relatively speaking, of course – in my mind is the site to site transporting.\n
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    However, we see in Disco, starting with “Context is for Kings”, that they can just order the computer to transport them from one room of the ship to another without hesitation.\n
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          > Mushrooms have significantly less mysticism associated with them\n
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          > The closest comparison to the mycelial network is Yggdrasil, which is solidly in the high fantasy category rather than sci-fi.\n
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          The closest comparison is actual fungal networks that exist beneath forests supporting life through the transference of nutrients and biochemical communication, are some of the largest organisms on the planet, and are actual nonfiction science.\n
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          Yeah, I like Disco because I think they’re at least trying to do something, and that’s interesting to me. They don’t always succeed, but I respect the attempt. However, I fully get why people don’t like it.\n
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          Fuckin’ jeepers, this is grasping at straws.\n
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          There’s no “lore” regarding the spore drive or the uniforms, so nothing to disregard.\n
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          What specific lore about the Klingons was abandoned by Disco. Just one specific thing. Any single, specific thing.
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          Lorca’s not the only one who uses it in Disco, though. It actually happens relatively frequently in the first two season. Obviously for seasons three and four things have changed and it’s no longer an issue.\n
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          Depends on the episode.\n
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          But it’s not a trail of spores going through space, and nothing in the show would lead someone who’d been paying the slightest amount of attention to think that’s the case.\n
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          The mycelial network is a layer of subspace, which the spore drive allows them to access because the specific fungus they cultivate exists partially in subspace. Stamets makes that clear in “Choose Your Pain”.\n
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          Subspace is entirely made up facilitate the stories that Trek tells. It was first mentioned in “Mudd’s Women”, the fourth episode of TOS to be produced. It has since served as a means of instantaneous communication across lightyears, as well as long range imaging vis subspace telescope, such as in “The Nth Degree”. The sensors aboard the ships also operate via subspace, allowing them to detect things lightyears away, and detect things ahead of them while travelling faster than light.\n
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          Not for the most part.\n
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          The big one – relatively speaking, of course – in my mind is the site to site transporting.\n
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          > In Discovery, instead of honorable warriors, the klingons are a bunch of sneaky backstabbing and coward warriors.\n
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          Like they are in TOS?\n
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          > Mushrooms have significantly less mysticism associated with them\n
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          Ah yes, psychedelics are famously not associated with mysticism.\n
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          > The closest comparison to the mycelial network is Yggdrasil, which is solidly in the high fantasy category rather than sci-fi.\n
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          The closest comparison is actual fungal networks that exist beneath forests supporting life through the transference of nutrients and biochemical communication, are some of the largest organisms on the planet, and are actual nonfiction science.\n
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          > All that is to say, I think the mycelial network needed more time to set up than the show gave it.\n
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          I think I can agree with you to some extent there. Stamets, by virtue of being standoffish and prickly when the character is introduced, is not the best at explaining things, and the concept could have used a better explanation early on to mitigate the response I’m complaining about with this post.
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          Yeah, I like Disco because I think they’re at least trying to do something, and that’s interesting to me. They don’t always succeed, but I respect the attempt. However, I fully get why people don’t like it.\n
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          My issue is with the silly complaints, not what amounts to a matter of taste.
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          Fuckin’ jeepers, this is grasping at straws.\n
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          There’s no “lore” regarding the spore drive or the uniforms, so nothing to disregard.\n
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          What specific lore about the Klingons was abandoned by Disco. Just one specific thing. Any single, specific thing.
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          Lorca’s not the only one who uses it in Disco, though. It actually happens relatively frequently in the first two season. Obviously for seasons three and four things have changed and it’s no longer an issue.\n
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          Hell, in SNW while Kirk is on the *Enterprise* in “Subspace Rhapsody” he prepares some samples collected outside the ship to be beamed to engineering and thinks nothing of that instance of intra-ship beaming. I guess he forgot that whole event where people broke out into song by the time he was mid-way through his own five year mission.
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        +body: "What specific lore has been disregarded?"
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          Depends on the episode.\n
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          When Quark is abducted from Deep Space 9 in “House of Quark” he’s taken clear across the entire Federation and into the Klingon Empire in about a day. And then D’Ghor sends someone to the station to grab Rom and get him back to Qo’noS the next day.\n
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          Trek moves at the speed of plot.
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          But it’s not a trail of spores going through space, and nothing in the show would lead someone who’d been paying the slightest amount of attention to think that’s the case.\n
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          The mycelial network is a layer of subspace, which the spore drive allows them to access because the specific fungus they cultivate exists partially in subspace. Stamets makes that clear in “Choose Your Pain”.\n
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          Subspace is entirely made up facilitate the stories that Trek tells. It was first mentioned in “Mudd’s Women”, the fourth episode of TOS to be produced. It has since served as a means of instantaneous communication across lightyears, as well as long range imaging vis subspace telescope, such as in “The Nth Degree”. The sensors aboard the ships also operate via subspace, allowing them to detect things lightyears away, and detect things ahead of them while travelling faster than light.\n
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          The spore drive in based on the real science of mycology, and extrapolated through a Trek lens. Nothing about it requires any sort of special property that has not already been established as existing within older episodes of Trek.\n
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          The only one insulting your intelligence is yourself by believing you’re not creative enough to figure out how the spore drive fits into the larger world of Trek.
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          Star Trek has never been hard science fiction, though.\n
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          How is the spore drive any more fantastical than half of what happens in Trek?
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        +body: "You’re not wrong, but I do feel like that’s an over correction. They might as well have had text flashing at the bottom of the screen which read, “Sorry for the holograms, we didn’t realize how angry some of you would get.”"
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          Not for the most part.\n
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          I would probably be more annoyed by the Klingon cloaking devices in season one if not for the fact that ship had already sailed when ENT established that the Romulans already had that technology a hundred years before “Balance of Terror”, and oh, so did the Suliban and the XyrIllians whom the crew of the *Nx-01* also encountered.\n
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          But yeah, the idea of a technology existing but not being widely used doesn’t bump me at all. This is like getting mad that when you go into watch the latest Marvel movie and they’re not using [Smell-O-Vision](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smell-O-Vision). The technology exists! Hell, I can’t remember the last movie I saw in theatre that was 3d. Obviously they still exist, but it’s not a technology that’s really taken off once the gimmick lost its lustre. Or think about how many people, especially young people, prefer to text over talking on the phone.\n
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          The big one – relatively speaking, of course – in my mind is the site to site transporting.\n
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          However, we see in Disco, starting with “Context is for Kings”, that they can just order the computer to transport them from one room of the ship to another without hesitation.\n
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          > In Discovery, instead of honorable warriors, the klingons are a bunch of sneaky backstabbing and coward warriors.\n
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          Like they are in TOS?\n
          \n
          > They also don’t look like klingons at all\n
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          Are you similarly upset by the change in appearance the occurred between TOS and TMP?\n
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          > and architecture\n
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          Architecture? I don’t know, the House Mo’Kai fortress we see in season two doesn’t seem all that out of place. The rounded towers of the capital city seen in ENT is a greater divergence than anything we see in Disco. But that’s also fine, because architectural styles change over time.\n
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          > the speak like their mouth is full of potatoes\n
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          And apparently, according to experts in the language, that’s the best Klingon has ever sounded on screen. Not really sure how that qualifies as a lore thing, though.\n
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          > they make ships out of coffins.\n
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          One ship. The home of a cult leader.
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          > Mushrooms have significantly less mysticism associated with them\n
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          Ah yes, psychedelics are famously not associated with mysticism.\n
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          > The closest comparison to the mycelial network is Yggdrasil, which is solidly in the high fantasy category rather than sci-fi.\n
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          The closest comparison is actual fungal networks that exist beneath forests supporting life through the transference of nutrients and biochemical communication, are some of the largest organisms on the planet, and are actual nonfiction science.\n
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          I think I can agree with you to some extent there. Stamets, by virtue of being standoffish and prickly when the character is introduced, is not the best at explaining things, and the concept could have used a better explanation early on to mitigate the response I’m complaining about with this post.
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          Yeah, I like Disco because I think they’re at least trying to do something, and that’s interesting to me. They don’t always succeed, but I respect the attempt. However, I fully get why people don’t like it.\n
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          Fuckin’ jeepers, this is grasping at straws.\n
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          What specific lore about the Klingons was abandoned by Disco. Just one specific thing. Any single, specific thing.
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          Lorca’s not the only one who uses it in Disco, though. It actually happens relatively frequently in the first two season. Obviously for seasons three and four things have changed and it’s no longer an issue.\n
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          Hell, in SNW while Kirk is on the *Enterprise* in “Subspace Rhapsody” he prepares some samples collected outside the ship to be beamed to engineering and thinks nothing of that instance of intra-ship beaming. I guess he forgot that whole event where people broke out into song by the time he was mid-way through his own five year mission.
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        +body: "What specific lore has been disregarded?"
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          Depends on the episode.\n
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          When Quark is abducted from Deep Space 9 in “House of Quark” he’s taken clear across the entire Federation and into the Klingon Empire in about a day. And then D’Ghor sends someone to the station to grab Rom and get him back to Qo’noS the next day.\n
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          Trek moves at the speed of plot.
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          But it’s not a trail of spores going through space, and nothing in the show would lead someone who’d been paying the slightest amount of attention to think that’s the case.\n
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          The mycelial network is a layer of subspace, which the spore drive allows them to access because the specific fungus they cultivate exists partially in subspace. Stamets makes that clear in “Choose Your Pain”.\n
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          Subspace is entirely made up facilitate the stories that Trek tells. It was first mentioned in “Mudd’s Women”, the fourth episode of TOS to be produced. It has since served as a means of instantaneous communication across lightyears, as well as long range imaging vis subspace telescope, such as in “The Nth Degree”. The sensors aboard the ships also operate via subspace, allowing them to detect things lightyears away, and detect things ahead of them while travelling faster than light.\n
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          And we learned in the TNG episode “Schisms” that subspace can support life, and even has beings living there. Or at least some aspects of subspace do.\n
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          The spore drive in based on the real science of mycology, and extrapolated through a Trek lens. Nothing about it requires any sort of special property that has not already been established as existing within older episodes of Trek.\n
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          The only one insulting your intelligence is yourself by believing you’re not creative enough to figure out how the spore drive fits into the larger world of Trek.
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          Star Trek has never been hard science fiction, though.\n
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          How is the spore drive any more fantastical than half of what happens in Trek?
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        +body: "You’re not wrong, but I do feel like that’s an over correction. They might as well have had text flashing at the bottom of the screen which read, “Sorry for the holograms, we didn’t realize how angry some of you would get.”"
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          Not for the most part.\n
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          I would probably be more annoyed by the Klingon cloaking devices in season one if not for the fact that ship had already sailed when ENT established that the Romulans already had that technology a hundred years before “Balance of Terror”, and oh, so did the Suliban and the XyrIllians whom the crew of the *Nx-01* also encountered.\n
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          Not to mention there’s a throw away line in one episode of season one about how the sensors are picking up massive power readings but can’t actually pinpoint the ships, and in “Balance of Terror” Spock notes that the Romulans must have figured out a way to bend light around their ship without the tremendous power draw. I have to assume someone on the writing team was trying to square that circle.\n
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          But yeah, the idea of a technology existing but not being widely used doesn’t bump me at all. This is like getting mad that when you go into watch the latest Marvel movie and they’re not using [Smell-O-Vision](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smell-O-Vision). The technology exists! Hell, I can’t remember the last movie I saw in theatre that was 3d. Obviously they still exist, but it’s not a technology that’s really taken off once the gimmick lost its lustre. Or think about how many people, especially young people, prefer to text over talking on the phone.\n
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          So yeah, I don’t think anything is cheapened by the idea that a technology exists by is not widely used, and I do think it’s silly that anyone would make that argument.
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          The big one – relatively speaking, of course – in my mind is the site to site transporting.\n
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          In “Day of the Dove”, Kirk asks Spock, *”Intra-ship beaming, is it possible?”* and Spock rattled off a litany of reasons why it was considered too dangerous in all but the most necessary circumstances.\n
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          However, we see in Disco, starting with “Context is for Kings”, that they can just order the computer to transport them from one room of the ship to another without hesitation.\n
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          It’s a minor quibble all things considered. And clearly something most of the Disco detractors aren’t even aware of.
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          > In Discovery, instead of honorable warriors, the klingons are a bunch of sneaky backstabbing and coward warriors.\n
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          Like they are in TOS?\n
          \n
          > They also don’t look like klingons at all\n
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          Are you similarly upset by the change in appearance the occurred between TOS and TMP?\n
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          > and architecture\n
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          Architecture? I don’t know, the House Mo’Kai fortress we see in season two doesn’t seem all that out of place. The rounded towers of the capital city seen in ENT is a greater divergence than anything we see in Disco. But that’s also fine, because architectural styles change over time.\n
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          > the speak like their mouth is full of potatoes\n
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          And apparently, according to experts in the language, that’s the best Klingon has ever sounded on screen. Not really sure how that qualifies as a lore thing, though.\n
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          > they make ships out of coffins.\n
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          One ship. The home of a cult leader.
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          > Mushrooms have significantly less mysticism associated with them\n
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          > The closest comparison to the mycelial network is Yggdrasil, which is solidly in the high fantasy category rather than sci-fi.\n
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          The closest comparison is actual fungal networks that exist beneath forests supporting life through the transference of nutrients and biochemical communication, are some of the largest organisms on the planet, and are actual nonfiction science.\n
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          I think I can agree with you to some extent there. Stamets, by virtue of being standoffish and prickly when the character is introduced, is not the best at explaining things, and the concept could have used a better explanation early on to mitigate the response I’m complaining about with this post.
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          Yeah, I like Disco because I think they’re at least trying to do something, and that’s interesting to me. They don’t always succeed, but I respect the attempt. However, I fully get why people don’t like it.\n
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          My issue is with the silly complaints, not what amounts to a matter of taste.
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          Fuckin’ jeepers, this is grasping at straws.\n
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          There’s no “lore” regarding the spore drive or the uniforms, so nothing to disregard.\n
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          What specific lore about the Klingons was abandoned by Disco. Just one specific thing. Any single, specific thing.
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          Lorca’s not the only one who uses it in Disco, though. It actually happens relatively frequently in the first two season. Obviously for seasons three and four things have changed and it’s no longer an issue.\n
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          Depends on the episode.\n
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          But it’s not a trail of spores going through space, and nothing in the show would lead someone who’d been paying the slightest amount of attention to think that’s the case.\n
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          Subspace is entirely made up facilitate the stories that Trek tells. It was first mentioned in “Mudd’s Women”, the fourth episode of TOS to be produced. It has since served as a means of instantaneous communication across lightyears, as well as long range imaging vis subspace telescope, such as in “The Nth Degree”. The sensors aboard the ships also operate via subspace, allowing them to detect things lightyears away, and detect things ahead of them while travelling faster than light.\n
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        +body: "You’re not wrong, but I do feel like that’s an over correction. They might as well have had text flashing at the bottom of the screen which read, “Sorry for the holograms, we didn’t realize how angry some of you would get.”"
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          Not for the most part.\n
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          I would probably be more annoyed by the Klingon cloaking devices in season one if not for the fact that ship had already sailed when ENT established that the Romulans already had that technology a hundred years before “Balance of Terror”, and oh, so did the Suliban and the XyrIllians whom the crew of the *Nx-01* also encountered.\n
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          The big one – relatively speaking, of course – in my mind is the site to site transporting.\n
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    > In Discovery, instead of honorable warriors, the klingons are a bunch of sneaky backstabbing and coward warriors.\n
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    Like they are in TOS?\n
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    > They also don’t look like klingons at all\n
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    Architecture? I don’t know, the House Mo’Kai fortress we see in season two doesn’t seem all that out of place. The rounded towers of the capital city seen in ENT is a greater divergence than anything we see in Disco. But that’s also fine, because architectural styles change over time.\n
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    > they make ships out of coffins.\n
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    One ship. The home of a cult leader.
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          > Mushrooms have significantly less mysticism associated with them\n
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          Ah yes, psychedelics are famously not associated with mysticism.\n
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          > The closest comparison to the mycelial network is Yggdrasil, which is solidly in the high fantasy category rather than sci-fi.\n
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          The closest comparison is actual fungal networks that exist beneath forests supporting life through the transference of nutrients and biochemical communication, are some of the largest organisms on the planet, and are actual nonfiction science.\n
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          > All that is to say, I think the mycelial network needed more time to set up than the show gave it.\n
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          I think I can agree with you to some extent there. Stamets, by virtue of being standoffish and prickly when the character is introduced, is not the best at explaining things, and the concept could have used a better explanation early on to mitigate the response I’m complaining about with this post.
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          Yeah, I like Disco because I think they’re at least trying to do something, and that’s interesting to me. They don’t always succeed, but I respect the attempt. However, I fully get why people don’t like it.\n
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          My issue is with the silly complaints, not what amounts to a matter of taste.
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          Fuckin’ jeepers, this is grasping at straws.\n
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          There’s no “lore” regarding the spore drive or the uniforms, so nothing to disregard.\n
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          What specific lore about the Klingons was abandoned by Disco. Just one specific thing. Any single, specific thing.
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          Lorca’s not the only one who uses it in Disco, though. It actually happens relatively frequently in the first two season. Obviously for seasons three and four things have changed and it’s no longer an issue.\n
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          Hell, in SNW while Kirk is on the *Enterprise* in “Subspace Rhapsody” he prepares some samples collected outside the ship to be beamed to engineering and thinks nothing of that instance of intra-ship beaming. I guess he forgot that whole event where people broke out into song by the time he was mid-way through his own five year mission.
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        +body: "What specific lore has been disregarded?"
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          Depends on the episode.\n
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          When Quark is abducted from Deep Space 9 in “House of Quark” he’s taken clear across the entire Federation and into the Klingon Empire in about a day. And then D’Ghor sends someone to the station to grab Rom and get him back to Qo’noS the next day.\n
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          Trek moves at the speed of plot.
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          But it’s not a trail of spores going through space, and nothing in the show would lead someone who’d been paying the slightest amount of attention to think that’s the case.\n
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          The mycelial network is a layer of subspace, which the spore drive allows them to access because the specific fungus they cultivate exists partially in subspace. Stamets makes that clear in “Choose Your Pain”.\n
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          Subspace is entirely made up facilitate the stories that Trek tells. It was first mentioned in “Mudd’s Women”, the fourth episode of TOS to be produced. It has since served as a means of instantaneous communication across lightyears, as well as long range imaging vis subspace telescope, such as in “The Nth Degree”. The sensors aboard the ships also operate via subspace, allowing them to detect things lightyears away, and detect things ahead of them while travelling faster than light.\n
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          And we learned in the TNG episode “Schisms” that subspace can support life, and even has beings living there. Or at least some aspects of subspace do.\n
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          The spore drive in based on the real science of mycology, and extrapolated through a Trek lens. Nothing about it requires any sort of special property that has not already been established as existing within older episodes of Trek.\n
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          The only one insulting your intelligence is yourself by believing you’re not creative enough to figure out how the spore drive fits into the larger world of Trek.
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          Star Trek has never been hard science fiction, though.\n
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          How is the spore drive any more fantastical than half of what happens in Trek?
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          Not for the most part.\n
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          I would probably be more annoyed by the Klingon cloaking devices in season one if not for the fact that ship had already sailed when ENT established that the Romulans already had that technology a hundred years before “Balance of Terror”, and oh, so did the Suliban and the XyrIllians whom the crew of the *Nx-01* also encountered.\n
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          But yeah, the idea of a technology existing but not being widely used doesn’t bump me at all. This is like getting mad that when you go into watch the latest Marvel movie and they’re not using [Smell-O-Vision](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smell-O-Vision). The technology exists! Hell, I can’t remember the last movie I saw in theatre that was 3d. Obviously they still exist, but it’s not a technology that’s really taken off once the gimmick lost its lustre. Or think about how many people, especially young people, prefer to text over talking on the phone.\n
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          The big one – relatively speaking, of course – in my mind is the site to site transporting.\n
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    > In Discovery, instead of honorable warriors, the klingons are a bunch of sneaky backstabbing and coward warriors.\n
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    Like they are in TOS?\n
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    > They also don’t look like klingons at all\n
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    Are you similarly upset by the change in appearance the occurred between TOS and TMP?\n
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    > and architecture\n
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    Architecture? I don’t know, the House Mo’Kai fortress we see in season two doesn’t seem all that out of place. The rounded towers of the capital city seen in ENT is a greater divergence than anything we see in Disco. But that’s also fine, because architectural styles change over time.\n
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    > the speak like their mouth is full of potatoes\n
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    And apparently, according to experts in the language, that’s the best Klingon has ever sounded on screen. Not really sure how that qualifies as a lore thing, though.\n
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    > they make ships out of coffins.\n
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    One ship. The home of a cult leader.
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          > Mushrooms have significantly less mysticism associated with them\n
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          > The closest comparison to the mycelial network is Yggdrasil, which is solidly in the high fantasy category rather than sci-fi.\n
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          The closest comparison is actual fungal networks that exist beneath forests supporting life through the transference of nutrients and biochemical communication, are some of the largest organisms on the planet, and are actual nonfiction science.\n
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          Yeah, I like Disco because I think they’re at least trying to do something, and that’s interesting to me. They don’t always succeed, but I respect the attempt. However, I fully get why people don’t like it.\n
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          Fuckin’ jeepers, this is grasping at straws.\n
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          What specific lore about the Klingons was abandoned by Disco. Just one specific thing. Any single, specific thing.
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          Lorca’s not the only one who uses it in Disco, though. It actually happens relatively frequently in the first two season. Obviously for seasons three and four things have changed and it’s no longer an issue.\n
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          Hell, in SNW while Kirk is on the *Enterprise* in “Subspace Rhapsody” he prepares some samples collected outside the ship to be beamed to engineering and thinks nothing of that instance of intra-ship beaming. I guess he forgot that whole event where people broke out into song by the time he was mid-way through his own five year mission.
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        +body: "What specific lore has been disregarded?"
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          Depends on the episode.\n
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          When Quark is abducted from Deep Space 9 in “House of Quark” he’s taken clear across the entire Federation and into the Klingon Empire in about a day. And then D’Ghor sends someone to the station to grab Rom and get him back to Qo’noS the next day.\n
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          Trek moves at the speed of plot.
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          But it’s not a trail of spores going through space, and nothing in the show would lead someone who’d been paying the slightest amount of attention to think that’s the case.\n
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          The mycelial network is a layer of subspace, which the spore drive allows them to access because the specific fungus they cultivate exists partially in subspace. Stamets makes that clear in “Choose Your Pain”.\n
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          Subspace is entirely made up facilitate the stories that Trek tells. It was first mentioned in “Mudd’s Women”, the fourth episode of TOS to be produced. It has since served as a means of instantaneous communication across lightyears, as well as long range imaging vis subspace telescope, such as in “The Nth Degree”. The sensors aboard the ships also operate via subspace, allowing them to detect things lightyears away, and detect things ahead of them while travelling faster than light.\n
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          And we learned in the TNG episode “Schisms” that subspace can support life, and even has beings living there. Or at least some aspects of subspace do.\n
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          The spore drive in based on the real science of mycology, and extrapolated through a Trek lens. Nothing about it requires any sort of special property that has not already been established as existing within older episodes of Trek.\n
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          The only one insulting your intelligence is yourself by believing you’re not creative enough to figure out how the spore drive fits into the larger world of Trek.
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          Star Trek has never been hard science fiction, though.\n
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          How is the spore drive any more fantastical than half of what happens in Trek?
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        +body: "You’re not wrong, but I do feel like that’s an over correction. They might as well have had text flashing at the bottom of the screen which read, “Sorry for the holograms, we didn’t realize how angry some of you would get.”"
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          Not for the most part.\n
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          I would probably be more annoyed by the Klingon cloaking devices in season one if not for the fact that ship had already sailed when ENT established that the Romulans already had that technology a hundred years before “Balance of Terror”, and oh, so did the Suliban and the XyrIllians whom the crew of the *Nx-01* also encountered.\n
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          But yeah, the idea of a technology existing but not being widely used doesn’t bump me at all. This is like getting mad that when you go into watch the latest Marvel movie and they’re not using [Smell-O-Vision](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smell-O-Vision). The technology exists! Hell, I can’t remember the last movie I saw in theatre that was 3d. Obviously they still exist, but it’s not a technology that’s really taken off once the gimmick lost its lustre. Or think about how many people, especially young people, prefer to text over talking on the phone.\n
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          So yeah, I don’t think anything is cheapened by the idea that a technology exists by is not widely used, and I do think it’s silly that anyone would make that argument.
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          The big one – relatively speaking, of course – in my mind is the site to site transporting.\n
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          In “Day of the Dove”, Kirk asks Spock, *”Intra-ship beaming, is it possible?”* and Spock rattled off a litany of reasons why it was considered too dangerous in all but the most necessary circumstances.\n
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          However, we see in Disco, starting with “Context is for Kings”, that they can just order the computer to transport them from one room of the ship to another without hesitation.\n
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          It’s a minor quibble all things considered. And clearly something most of the Disco detractors aren’t even aware of.
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