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299 ms Render Time
16.0 MiB Memory Usage

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components/date.html.twig
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magazine_inline
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components/magazine_inline.html.twig
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entry_comment
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components/entry_comment.html.twig
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user_inline
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components/user_inline.html.twig
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components/date_edited.html.twig
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entry_inline
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components/entry_inline.html.twig
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user_avatar
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components/user_avatar.html.twig
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vote
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components/vote.html.twig
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components/boost.html.twig
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settings_row_switch
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components/_settings_row_switch.html.twig
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user_settings_row_switch
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components/_user_settings_row_switch.html.twig
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components/_settings_row_enum.html.twig
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user_actions
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components/user_actions.html.twig
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related_magazines
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related_categories
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components/_cached.html.twig
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related_posts
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components/_cached.html.twig
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related_entries
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components/_cached.html.twig
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support_us_block
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components/_cached.html.twig
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featured_magazines
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      As for an exhaustive list on the matter, unfortunately, I don’t think something like that is out there. Though both [Canoeboot](https://canoeboot.org/docs/hardware/) (formerly known as Libreboot) and [Dasharo](https://docs.dasharo.com/variants/overview/) do have their own respective lists.
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      > a few commenters pointed out that the highest rated VPN providers in this table just happen to be the ones that advertise most aggressively and are well-known for buying positive reviews from tech blogs, which are pretty clearly designed to be misleading\n
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          ### Related communities\n
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          - [Lemmy.ml libre_culture](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_culture)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
          - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
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          - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
          - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
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        I’m shopping for a VPN providers, and really struggling to find a detailed and non-biased breakdown of the various options. A number of years ago, I recall finding an extremely detailed VPN comparison spreadsheet that had 30+ columns, which were contained criteria by which the VPNs were judged both quantitatively and qualitatively. I can no longer find that table, so I suspect it has been removed, but I did find the less-comprehensive table, below:\n
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      > a few commenters pointed out that the highest rated VPN providers in this table just happen to be the ones that advertise most aggressively and are well-known for buying positive reviews from tech blogs, which are pretty clearly designed to be misleading\n
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      Exactly. This is unfortunately common practice, so this breakdown can be dismissed as they’re obviously biased due to monetary motivations.\n
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      (Perhaps personal) TL;DR would be that [Mullvad VPN](https://mullvad.net/en/download/vpn/linux) in combination with [Mullvad Browser](https://mullvad.net/en/download/browser/linux) offers the most private internet browsing experience for people who don’t desire to connect to the Tor Network. Furthermore, [Proton](https://proton.me/) offers a suite of privacy-friendly services for mail, drive, password manager etc. Therefore, for the sake of trusting the least amount of parties for these services (at the cost of putting all eggs in one basket), one might consider [Proton VPN](https://protonvpn.com/) instead; additionally it includes a free tier and some support to port forwarding (read: allows the use of torrent applications).
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      > a few commenters pointed out that the highest rated VPN providers in this table just happen to be the ones that advertise most aggressively and are well-known for buying positive reviews from tech blogs, which are pretty clearly designed to be misleading\n
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      > a few commenters pointed out that the highest rated VPN providers in this table just happen to be the ones that advertise most aggressively and are well-known for buying positive reviews from tech blogs, which are pretty clearly designed to be misleading\n
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      Exactly. This is unfortunately common practice, so this breakdown can be dismissed as they’re obviously biased due to monetary motivations.\n
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      Consider to read [Privacy Guides](https://www.privacyguides.org/en/vpn/)’ take on the matter instead.\n
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      (Perhaps personal) TL;DR would be that [Mullvad VPN](https://mullvad.net/en/download/vpn/linux) in combination with [Mullvad Browser](https://mullvad.net/en/download/browser/linux) offers the most private internet browsing experience for people who don’t desire to connect to the Tor Network. Furthermore, [Proton](https://proton.me/) offers a suite of privacy-friendly services for mail, drive, password manager etc. Therefore, for the sake of trusting the least amount of parties for these services (at the cost of putting all eggs in one basket), one might consider [Proton VPN](https://protonvpn.com/) instead; additionally it includes a free tier and some support to port forwarding (read: allows the use of torrent applications).
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      - Go look elsewhere. There are hundreds of actively maintained distros out there. While not all of them are worth considering, there are at least a dozen of them that are worthy contenders. In case you’re interested to get the community’s help in finding a distro, consider answering the following questions: \n
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      A shortlist of distros worth considering for a beginner (from easiest to hardest): [Linux Mint](https://linuxmint.com/), [Ubuntu](https://ubuntu.com/), [Debian](https://www.debian.org/)/[Fedora](https://fedoraproject.org/)/[openSUSE](https://www.opensuse.org/) and [Arch](https://archlinux.org/).
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      Pop!_OS is definitely worth considering as it’s one of the few distros that goes as far as providing a [recovery partition](https://support.system76.com/articles/pop-recovery/) and offers one of the best experiences for those with Nvidia GPUs. Furthermore, Pop!_OS’ maintainers (read: System76) are actually financially incentivized to make their distro very polished and newbie-friendly as their distro is used on the hardware they sell.\n
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      On the flip side, Pop!_OS is currently in a major overhaul to replace GNOME with COSMIC; their own homebuilt Desktop Environment. As the Desktop Environment is arguably the most important contributor to how one experiences their Linux system, the eventual change might disrupt your workflow and you might even be too accustomed to GNOME to consider COSMIC at that point. The ongoing work on COSMIC has even meant that Pop!_OS has missed three major releases and are still clinging on their release from April 2022; thankfully it’s based on Ubuntu’s LTS (read: Long Term Support) release, so they aren’t particularly in rush to get a new release out and can rely on Ubuntu for security updates.\n
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      - Wait until April next year; when they’re supposed to release a new version. If you like what you see and the update and the changes are well-received by the community, then consider installing that one instead. It should be supported for 5 years, which is plenty to not worry about your system in the mean time.\n
      - Go look elsewhere. There are hundreds of actively maintained distros out there. While not all of them are worth considering, there are at least a dozen of them that are worthy contenders. In case you’re interested to get the community’s help in finding a distro, consider answering the following questions: \n
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          - How eager are you to learn and/or invest time to use your Linux system?\n
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          - Opinionated or blank slate?\n
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      A shortlist of distros worth considering for a beginner (from easiest to hardest): [Linux Mint](https://linuxmint.com/), [Ubuntu](https://ubuntu.com/), [Debian](https://www.debian.org/)/[Fedora](https://fedoraproject.org/)/[openSUSE](https://www.opensuse.org/) and [Arch](https://archlinux.org/).
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      [Star Labs’ take on the matter](https://support.starlabs.systems/kb/faqs/ami-aptio-v-vs-coreboot).\n
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      Furthermore, if one is sensitive regarding their **cybersecurity**, then one is likely to adhere to the [zero trust security model](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero_trust_security_model) and thus choose to simply not trust; which would include the closed source BIOS. coreboot, on the other hand, at least allows one to audit it themselves. As [Linus Torvalds has been approached for implementing backdoors](https://yewtu.be/watch?v=7gRsgkdfYJ8), it should surprise nobody that (some) of the vendors we buy our devices from have been as well and thus our BIOSes might not have been as safe as one would like to believe. [Qubes OS](https://www.qubes-os.org/), [the most secure OS on desktop](https://twitter.com/Snowden/status/781493632293605376), [shares the view that coreboot is preferred over closed source BIOSes due to reasons related to trust](https://www.qubes-os.org/faq/#do-you-recommend-coreboot-as-an-alternative-to-vendor-bios).
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      In general, consider setting up any kind of **rollback** functionality; this will enable you to get right back to action without any downtime when you’re time-restricted. This can be achieved by configuring your system with **(GRUB-)Btrfs+TImeshift/Snapper**. Please bear in mind that it’s likely that you have to come back to solve it eventually, though*. (Perhaps it’s worth thinking about what can be done to ensure that you don’t end up with a broken system in the first place. ***cough*** ~‘immutable’~ ~distro~ ***cough***)\n
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      - openSUSE’s offerings are generally speaking very polished, therefore being highly suitable to replace Linux Mint or Ubuntu. It’s its own thing though, therefore you might not be able to access packages that are exclusively found in Debian’s/Ubuntu’s repos (though [Distrobox](https://github.com/89luca89/distrobox) solves that trivially). Tumbleweed if you like rolling release, Slowroll if you prefer updates only once every 1-2 months and finally Leap if you lean more towards Stable/LTS releases.\n
      - siduction for being based on Debian; but it’s strictly on the Unstable(/Sid) branch.\n
      - SpiralLinux for being based on Debian; this one -however- has proper support for [switching branches](https://github.com/SpiralLinux/SpiralLinux-project/wiki#switching-from-debian-stable-to-the-testing-or-unstable-branch).\n
      - Vanilla OS for being based on Debian; this one is very ambitious. But, because it’s an *‘immutable’* distro, it might require the biggest changes to your workflow.\n
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      > nvidia drivers are absent\n
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      While any of the aforementioned distros do a decent job at ‘*supporting*’ Nvidia, perhaps you might be best off with [uBlue](https://universal-blue.org/)’s [Nvidia images](https://github.com/ublue-os/nvidia). As these are images relying on the same technology that Fedora’s immutable distros do, rollback functionality and all the other good stuff we’ve come to love -like automatic upgrades in the background- are present as well. In case you’re interested to know how these actually provide improved Nvidia support:\n
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      *No more building drivers on your laptop, dealing with signing, akmods, third party repo conflicts, or any of that. We’ve fully automated it so that if there’s an issue, we fix it in GitHub, for everyone.*\n
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      *But it’s not just installation and configuration: We provide Nvidia driver versions 525, 520, and 470 for each of these. You can atomically switch between any of these, so if your driver worked perfectly on a certain day and you find a regression you just rebase to that image.*\n
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      *Or switch to another desktop entirely.*\n
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      *No other desktop Linux does this, and we’re just getting started.”*\n
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      In general, consider setting up any kind of **rollback** functionality; this will enable you to get right back to action without any downtime when you’re time-restricted. This can be achieved by configuring your system with **(GRUB-)Btrfs+TImeshift/Snapper**. Please bear in mind that it’s likely that you have to come back to solve it eventually, though*. (Perhaps it’s worth thinking about what can be done to ensure that you don’t end up with a broken system in the first place. ***cough*** ~‘immutable’~ ~distro~ ***cough***)\n
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      - siduction for being based on Debian; but it’s strictly on the Unstable(/Sid) branch.\n
      - SpiralLinux for being based on Debian; this one -however- has proper support for [switching branches](https://github.com/SpiralLinux/SpiralLinux-project/wiki#switching-from-debian-stable-to-the-testing-or-unstable-branch).\n
      - Vanilla OS for being based on Debian; this one is very ambitious. But, because it’s an *‘immutable’* distro, it might require the biggest changes to your workflow.\n
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      > nvidia drivers are absent\n
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      While any of the aforementioned distros do a decent job at ‘*supporting*’ Nvidia, perhaps you might be best off with [uBlue](https://universal-blue.org/)’s [Nvidia images](https://github.com/ublue-os/nvidia). As these are images relying on the same technology that Fedora’s immutable distros do, rollback functionality and all the other good stuff we’ve come to love -like automatic upgrades in the background- are present as well. In case you’re interested to know how these actually provide improved Nvidia support:\n
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      *But it’s not just installation and configuration: We provide Nvidia driver versions 525, 520, and 470 for each of these. You can atomically switch between any of these, so if your driver worked perfectly on a certain day and you find a regression you just rebase to that image.*\n
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      *Or switch to another desktop entirely.*\n
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      *No other desktop Linux does this, and we’re just getting started.”*\n
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      In general, consider setting up any kind of **rollback** functionality; this will enable you to get right back to action without any downtime when you’re time-restricted. This can be achieved by configuring your system with **(GRUB-)Btrfs+TImeshift/Snapper**. Please bear in mind that it’s likely that you have to come back to solve it eventually, though*. (Perhaps it’s worth thinking about what can be done to ensure that you don’t end up with a broken system in the first place. ***cough*** ~‘immutable’~ ~distro~ ***cough***)\n
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      - openSUSE’s offerings are generally speaking very polished, therefore being highly suitable to replace Linux Mint or Ubuntu. It’s its own thing though, therefore you might not be able to access packages that are exclusively found in Debian’s/Ubuntu’s repos (though [Distrobox](https://github.com/89luca89/distrobox) solves that trivially). Tumbleweed if you like rolling release, Slowroll if you prefer updates only once every 1-2 months and finally Leap if you lean more towards Stable/LTS releases.\n
      - siduction for being based on Debian; but it’s strictly on the Unstable(/Sid) branch.\n
      - SpiralLinux for being based on Debian; this one -however- has proper support for [switching branches](https://github.com/SpiralLinux/SpiralLinux-project/wiki#switching-from-debian-stable-to-the-testing-or-unstable-branch).\n
      - Vanilla OS for being based on Debian; this one is very ambitious. But, because it’s an *‘immutable’* distro, it might require the biggest changes to your workflow.\n
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      > nvidia drivers are absent\n
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      While any of the aforementioned distros do a decent job at ‘*supporting*’ Nvidia, perhaps you might be best off with [uBlue](https://universal-blue.org/)’s [Nvidia images](https://github.com/ublue-os/nvidia). As these are images relying on the same technology that Fedora’s immutable distros do, rollback functionality and all the other good stuff we’ve come to love -like automatic upgrades in the background- are present as well. In case you’re interested to know how these actually provide improved Nvidia support:\n
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      *“We’ve slipstreamed the Nvidia drivers right onto the operating system image. Steps that once took place on your local laptop are now done in a continuous integration system in GitHub. Once they are complete, the system stamps out an image which then makes its way to your PC.*\n
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      *No more building drivers on your laptop, dealing with signing, akmods, third party repo conflicts, or any of that. We’ve fully automated it so that if there’s an issue, we fix it in GitHub, for everyone.*\n
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      *But it’s not just installation and configuration: We provide Nvidia driver versions 525, 520, and 470 for each of these. You can atomically switch between any of these, so if your driver worked perfectly on a certain day and you find a regression you just rebase to that image.*\n
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      *Or switch to another desktop entirely.*\n
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      *No other desktop Linux does this, and we’re just getting started.”*\n
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      [Source](https://github.com/orgs/ublue-os/discussions/108)
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      In general, consider setting up any kind of **rollback** functionality; this will enable you to get right back to action without any downtime when you’re time-restricted. This can be achieved by configuring your system with **(GRUB-)Btrfs+TImeshift/Snapper**. Please bear in mind that it’s likely that you have to come back to solve it eventually, though*. (Perhaps it’s worth thinking about what can be done to ensure that you don’t end up with a broken system in the first place. ***cough*** ~‘immutable’~ ~distro~ ***cough***)\n
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      - siduction for being based on Debian; but it’s strictly on the Unstable(/Sid) branch.\n
      - SpiralLinux for being based on Debian; this one -however- has proper support for [switching branches](https://github.com/SpiralLinux/SpiralLinux-project/wiki#switching-from-debian-stable-to-the-testing-or-unstable-branch).\n
      - Vanilla OS for being based on Debian; this one is very ambitious. But, because it’s an *‘immutable’* distro, it might require the biggest changes to your workflow.\n
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      While any of the aforementioned distros do a decent job at ‘*supporting*’ Nvidia, perhaps you might be best off with [uBlue](https://universal-blue.org/)’s [Nvidia images](https://github.com/ublue-os/nvidia). As these are images relying on the same technology that Fedora’s immutable distros do, rollback functionality and all the other good stuff we’ve come to love -like automatic upgrades in the background- are present as well. In case you’re interested to know how these actually provide improved Nvidia support:\n
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      *Or switch to another desktop entirely.*\n
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      *No other desktop Linux does this, and we’re just getting started.”*\n
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      In general, consider setting up any kind of **rollback** functionality; this will enable you to get right back to action without any downtime when you’re time-restricted. This can be achieved by configuring your system with **(GRUB-)Btrfs+TImeshift/Snapper**. Please bear in mind that it’s likely that you have to come back to solve it eventually, though*. (Perhaps it’s worth thinking about what can be done to ensure that you don’t end up with a broken system in the first place. ***cough*** ~‘immutable’~ ~distro~ ***cough***)\n
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      - siduction for being based on Debian; but it’s strictly on the Unstable(/Sid) branch.\n
      - SpiralLinux for being based on Debian; this one -however- has proper support for [switching branches](https://github.com/SpiralLinux/SpiralLinux-project/wiki#switching-from-debian-stable-to-the-testing-or-unstable-branch).\n
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      *Or switch to another desktop entirely.*\n
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      *No other desktop Linux does this, and we’re just getting started.”*\n
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      In general, consider setting up any kind of **rollback** functionality; this will enable you to get right back to action without any downtime when you’re time-restricted. This can be achieved by configuring your system with **(GRUB-)Btrfs+TImeshift/Snapper**. Please bear in mind that it’s likely that you have to come back to solve it eventually, though*. (Perhaps it’s worth thinking about what can be done to ensure that you don’t end up with a broken system in the first place. ***cough*** ~‘immutable’~ ~distro~ ***cough***)\n
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      - siduction for being based on Debian; but it’s strictly on the Unstable(/Sid) branch.\n
      - SpiralLinux for being based on Debian; this one -however- has proper support for [switching branches](https://github.com/SpiralLinux/SpiralLinux-project/wiki#switching-from-debian-stable-to-the-testing-or-unstable-branch).\n
      - Vanilla OS for being based on Debian; this one is very ambitious. But, because it’s an *‘immutable’* distro, it might require the biggest changes to your workflow.\n
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      While any of the aforementioned distros do a decent job at ‘*supporting*’ Nvidia, perhaps you might be best off with [uBlue](https://universal-blue.org/)’s [Nvidia images](https://github.com/ublue-os/nvidia). As these are images relying on the same technology that Fedora’s immutable distros do, rollback functionality and all the other good stuff we’ve come to love -like automatic upgrades in the background- are present as well. In case you’re interested to know how these actually provide improved Nvidia support:\n
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      *But it’s not just installation and configuration: We provide Nvidia driver versions 525, 520, and 470 for each of these. You can atomically switch between any of these, so if your driver worked perfectly on a certain day and you find a regression you just rebase to that image.*\n
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      *Or switch to another desktop entirely.*\n
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      *No other desktop Linux does this, and we’re just getting started.”*\n
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        - [NixOS](NixOS)\n
        - [blendOS](https://blendos.co/)\n
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        I haven’t distro hopped yet, as I’m still on [Manjaro GNOME](https://manjaro.org/) on my devices.\n
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        What are your thoughts on the three distros mentioned above?  \n
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      Lots of great answers here already so I will only address a couple of things that haven’t been mentioned:\n
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      Regarding Fedora Silverblue:\n
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      - Currently, Fedora Atomic Desktops are in a major shift to accept OCI container images for delivery of packages. This means that the built image becomes one compliant to OCI and that we boot into an OCI container as our system. As OCI images are relatively declarative (not to the extent that NixOS does (yet)), it becomes possible to have a set of config files (most importantly, the so-called Containerfile) in which your system is ‘declared’/‘configd’. In case you’re interested into how this looks/works, consider taking a look at uBlue’s [startingpoint](https://www.github.com/ublue-os/startingpoint/) or if you’re more interested in the scope of configuration into [Bazzite](https://www.github.com/ublue-os/bazzite/) and/or [Bluefin](https://www.github.com/ublue-os/bluefin/).\n
      - apx is available as a COPR on Fedora Atomic Desktops.\n
      - Nix can be installed on Fedora Atomic Desktops using Determinate Systems’ installer.\n
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      Regarding Vanilla OS:\n
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      - They’re also moving to a model that’s very close to where Fedora Atomic Desktops is heading towards. So, expect a similar way to config/‘declare’ your system.\n
      \n
      > What are your thoughts on the three four distros mentioned above?\n
      \n
      It’s a question of polish if you’d ask me. With Fedora Atomic Desktops and NixOS being advantageous due to being more established and better funded. I wouldn’t write off Vanilla OS yet as they seem to know what they’re doing. Though, I wouldn’t keep my hopes up for blendOS as its main developer was unaware of which MAC was configured by default on blendOS (spoiler alert: none, at least at the time).\n
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      Furthermore, NixOS is literally its own thing and unfortunately infamous for its steep learning curve. If you can afford to learn and conquer NixOS, then NixOS should be the recommendation; unless (like me) you seek SELinux on your systems.\n
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      Between Fedora Atomic Desktops and Vanilla OS; Vanilla OS is still in its major rewrite/revamp. The alpha builds are there, but I wouldn’t recommend using those on production machines. Fedora Atomic Desktops, on the other hand, has been going strong for a while now and the uBlue-team has even succeeded in making the OCI-stuff accessible for the general (Linux) public. So if you want to switch now and NixOS is/seems too hard; then Fedora Atomic Desktops it is. On that note, I recommend to check out the [uBlue](https://ublue.it/) project.\n
      \n
      > Which ones are the most interesting, and for what reasons?\n
      \n
      Honestly, all of them are really interesting, but NixOS does the most unique stuff; with only Guix doing something similar within the Linux landscape. To give you a taste of some of the wild stuff found on NixOS; there’s the so-called [Impermanence](https://nixos.wiki/wiki/Impermanence) module which -to my knowledge- happens to be the closest thing to a usable stateless system we’ve got; period. Consider reading [this excellent blog post](https://grahamc.com/blog/erase-your-darlings/) in case you’re interested to know what this entails.
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        - [blendOS](https://blendos.co/)\n
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        What are your thoughts on the three distros mentioned above?  \n
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      Lots of great answers here already so I will only address a couple of things that haven’t been mentioned:\n
      \n
      Regarding Fedora Silverblue:\n
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      - Currently, Fedora Atomic Desktops are in a major shift to accept OCI container images for delivery of packages. This means that the built image becomes one compliant to OCI and that we boot into an OCI container as our system. As OCI images are relatively declarative (not to the extent that NixOS does (yet)), it becomes possible to have a set of config files (most importantly, the so-called Containerfile) in which your system is ‘declared’/‘configd’. In case you’re interested into how this looks/works, consider taking a look at uBlue’s [startingpoint](https://www.github.com/ublue-os/startingpoint/) or if you’re more interested in the scope of configuration into [Bazzite](https://www.github.com/ublue-os/bazzite/) and/or [Bluefin](https://www.github.com/ublue-os/bluefin/).\n
      - apx is available as a COPR on Fedora Atomic Desktops.\n
      - Nix can be installed on Fedora Atomic Desktops using Determinate Systems’ installer.\n
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      Regarding Vanilla OS:\n
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      - They’re also moving to a model that’s very close to where Fedora Atomic Desktops is heading towards. So, expect a similar way to config/‘declare’ your system.\n
      \n
      > What are your thoughts on the three four distros mentioned above?\n
      \n
      It’s a question of polish if you’d ask me. With Fedora Atomic Desktops and NixOS being advantageous due to being more established and better funded. I wouldn’t write off Vanilla OS yet as they seem to know what they’re doing. Though, I wouldn’t keep my hopes up for blendOS as its main developer was unaware of which MAC was configured by default on blendOS (spoiler alert: none, at least at the time).\n
      \n
      Furthermore, NixOS is literally its own thing and unfortunately infamous for its steep learning curve. If you can afford to learn and conquer NixOS, then NixOS should be the recommendation; unless (like me) you seek SELinux on your systems.\n
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      Between Fedora Atomic Desktops and Vanilla OS; Vanilla OS is still in its major rewrite/revamp. The alpha builds are there, but I wouldn’t recommend using those on production machines. Fedora Atomic Desktops, on the other hand, has been going strong for a while now and the uBlue-team has even succeeded in making the OCI-stuff accessible for the general (Linux) public. So if you want to switch now and NixOS is/seems too hard; then Fedora Atomic Desktops it is. On that note, I recommend to check out the [uBlue](https://ublue.it/) project.\n
      \n
      > Which ones are the most interesting, and for what reasons?\n
      \n
      Honestly, all of them are really interesting, but NixOS does the most unique stuff; with only Guix doing something similar within the Linux landscape. To give you a taste of some of the wild stuff found on NixOS; there’s the so-called [Impermanence](https://nixos.wiki/wiki/Impermanence) module which -to my knowledge- happens to be the closest thing to a usable stateless system we’ve got; period. Consider reading [this excellent blog post](https://grahamc.com/blog/erase-your-darlings/) in case you’re interested to know what this entails.
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        So I’ve recently taken an interest in these three distros:\n
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        - [NixOS](NixOS)\n
        - [blendOS](https://blendos.co/)\n
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        I haven’t distro hopped yet, as I’m still on [Manjaro GNOME](https://manjaro.org/) on my devices.\n
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        What are your thoughts on the three distros mentioned above?  \n
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        Personally, I’m mostly interested in NixOS & blendOS, as I believe they may have more advantages compared to Arch;\n
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        What do you think?
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      Lots of great answers here already so I will only address a couple of things that haven’t been mentioned:\n
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      Regarding Fedora Silverblue:\n
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      - Currently, Fedora Atomic Desktops are in a major shift to accept OCI container images for delivery of packages. This means that the built image becomes one compliant to OCI and that we boot into an OCI container as our system. As OCI images are relatively declarative (not to the extent that NixOS does (yet)), it becomes possible to have a set of config files (most importantly, the so-called Containerfile) in which your system is ‘declared’/‘configd’. In case you’re interested into how this looks/works, consider taking a look at uBlue’s [startingpoint](https://www.github.com/ublue-os/startingpoint/) or if you’re more interested in the scope of configuration into [Bazzite](https://www.github.com/ublue-os/bazzite/) and/or [Bluefin](https://www.github.com/ublue-os/bluefin/).\n
      - apx is available as a COPR on Fedora Atomic Desktops.\n
      - Nix can be installed on Fedora Atomic Desktops using Determinate Systems’ installer.\n
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      Regarding Vanilla OS:\n
      \n
      - They’re also moving to a model that’s very close to where Fedora Atomic Desktops is heading towards. So, expect a similar way to config/‘declare’ your system.\n
      \n
      > What are your thoughts on the three four distros mentioned above?\n
      \n
      It’s a question of polish if you’d ask me. With Fedora Atomic Desktops and NixOS being advantageous due to being more established and better funded. I wouldn’t write off Vanilla OS yet as they seem to know what they’re doing. Though, I wouldn’t keep my hopes up for blendOS as its main developer was unaware of which MAC was configured by default on blendOS (spoiler alert: none, at least at the time).\n
      \n
      Furthermore, NixOS is literally its own thing and unfortunately infamous for its steep learning curve. If you can afford to learn and conquer NixOS, then NixOS should be the recommendation; unless (like me) you seek SELinux on your systems.\n
      \n
      Between Fedora Atomic Desktops and Vanilla OS; Vanilla OS is still in its major rewrite/revamp. The alpha builds are there, but I wouldn’t recommend using those on production machines. Fedora Atomic Desktops, on the other hand, has been going strong for a while now and the uBlue-team has even succeeded in making the OCI-stuff accessible for the general (Linux) public. So if you want to switch now and NixOS is/seems too hard; then Fedora Atomic Desktops it is. On that note, I recommend to check out the [uBlue](https://ublue.it/) project.\n
      \n
      > Which ones are the most interesting, and for what reasons?\n
      \n
      Honestly, all of them are really interesting, but NixOS does the most unique stuff; with only Guix doing something similar within the Linux landscape. To give you a taste of some of the wild stuff found on NixOS; there’s the so-called [Impermanence](https://nixos.wiki/wiki/Impermanence) module which -to my knowledge- happens to be the closest thing to a usable stateless system we’ve got; period. Consider reading [this excellent blog post](https://grahamc.com/blog/erase-your-darlings/) in case you’re interested to know what this entails.
      """
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      Lots of great answers here already so I will only address a couple of things that haven’t been mentioned:\n
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        - [blendOS](https://blendos.co/)\n
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        I haven’t distro hopped yet, as I’m still on [Manjaro GNOME](https://manjaro.org/) on my devices.\n
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        What are your thoughts on the three distros mentioned above?  \n
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      Lots of great answers here already so I will only address a couple of things that haven’t been mentioned:\n
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      Regarding Fedora Silverblue:\n
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      - Currently, Fedora Atomic Desktops are in a major shift to accept OCI container images for delivery of packages. This means that the built image becomes one compliant to OCI and that we boot into an OCI container as our system. As OCI images are relatively declarative (not to the extent that NixOS does (yet)), it becomes possible to have a set of config files (most importantly, the so-called Containerfile) in which your system is ‘declared’/‘configd’. In case you’re interested into how this looks/works, consider taking a look at uBlue’s [startingpoint](https://www.github.com/ublue-os/startingpoint/) or if you’re more interested in the scope of configuration into [Bazzite](https://www.github.com/ublue-os/bazzite/) and/or [Bluefin](https://www.github.com/ublue-os/bluefin/).\n
      - apx is available as a COPR on Fedora Atomic Desktops.\n
      - Nix can be installed on Fedora Atomic Desktops using Determinate Systems’ installer.\n
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      Regarding Vanilla OS:\n
      \n
      - They’re also moving to a model that’s very close to where Fedora Atomic Desktops is heading towards. So, expect a similar way to config/‘declare’ your system.\n
      \n
      > What are your thoughts on the three four distros mentioned above?\n
      \n
      It’s a question of polish if you’d ask me. With Fedora Atomic Desktops and NixOS being advantageous due to being more established and better funded. I wouldn’t write off Vanilla OS yet as they seem to know what they’re doing. Though, I wouldn’t keep my hopes up for blendOS as its main developer was unaware of which MAC was configured by default on blendOS (spoiler alert: none, at least at the time).\n
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      Furthermore, NixOS is literally its own thing and unfortunately infamous for its steep learning curve. If you can afford to learn and conquer NixOS, then NixOS should be the recommendation; unless (like me) you seek SELinux on your systems.\n
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      Between Fedora Atomic Desktops and Vanilla OS; Vanilla OS is still in its major rewrite/revamp. The alpha builds are there, but I wouldn’t recommend using those on production machines. Fedora Atomic Desktops, on the other hand, has been going strong for a while now and the uBlue-team has even succeeded in making the OCI-stuff accessible for the general (Linux) public. So if you want to switch now and NixOS is/seems too hard; then Fedora Atomic Desktops it is. On that note, I recommend to check out the [uBlue](https://ublue.it/) project.\n
      \n
      > Which ones are the most interesting, and for what reasons?\n
      \n
      Honestly, all of them are really interesting, but NixOS does the most unique stuff; with only Guix doing something similar within the Linux landscape. To give you a taste of some of the wild stuff found on NixOS; there’s the so-called [Impermanence](https://nixos.wiki/wiki/Impermanence) module which -to my knowledge- happens to be the closest thing to a usable stateless system we’ve got; period. Consider reading [this excellent blog post](https://grahamc.com/blog/erase-your-darlings/) in case you’re interested to know what this entails.
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        - [blendOS](https://blendos.co/)\n
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        I haven’t distro hopped yet, as I’m still on [Manjaro GNOME](https://manjaro.org/) on my devices.\n
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        What are your thoughts on the three distros mentioned above?  \n
        Which ones are the most interesting, and for what reasons?\n
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      Lots of great answers here already so I will only address a couple of things that haven’t been mentioned:\n
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      Regarding Fedora Silverblue:\n
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      - Currently, Fedora Atomic Desktops are in a major shift to accept OCI container images for delivery of packages. This means that the built image becomes one compliant to OCI and that we boot into an OCI container as our system. As OCI images are relatively declarative (not to the extent that NixOS does (yet)), it becomes possible to have a set of config files (most importantly, the so-called Containerfile) in which your system is ‘declared’/‘configd’. In case you’re interested into how this looks/works, consider taking a look at uBlue’s [startingpoint](https://www.github.com/ublue-os/startingpoint/) or if you’re more interested in the scope of configuration into [Bazzite](https://www.github.com/ublue-os/bazzite/) and/or [Bluefin](https://www.github.com/ublue-os/bluefin/).\n
      - apx is available as a COPR on Fedora Atomic Desktops.\n
      - Nix can be installed on Fedora Atomic Desktops using Determinate Systems’ installer.\n
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      Regarding Vanilla OS:\n
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      - They’re also moving to a model that’s very close to where Fedora Atomic Desktops is heading towards. So, expect a similar way to config/‘declare’ your system.\n
      \n
      > What are your thoughts on the three four distros mentioned above?\n
      \n
      It’s a question of polish if you’d ask me. With Fedora Atomic Desktops and NixOS being advantageous due to being more established and better funded. I wouldn’t write off Vanilla OS yet as they seem to know what they’re doing. Though, I wouldn’t keep my hopes up for blendOS as its main developer was unaware of which MAC was configured by default on blendOS (spoiler alert: none, at least at the time).\n
      \n
      Furthermore, NixOS is literally its own thing and unfortunately infamous for its steep learning curve. If you can afford to learn and conquer NixOS, then NixOS should be the recommendation; unless (like me) you seek SELinux on your systems.\n
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      Between Fedora Atomic Desktops and Vanilla OS; Vanilla OS is still in its major rewrite/revamp. The alpha builds are there, but I wouldn’t recommend using those on production machines. Fedora Atomic Desktops, on the other hand, has been going strong for a while now and the uBlue-team has even succeeded in making the OCI-stuff accessible for the general (Linux) public. So if you want to switch now and NixOS is/seems too hard; then Fedora Atomic Desktops it is. On that note, I recommend to check out the [uBlue](https://ublue.it/) project.\n
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      > Which ones are the most interesting, and for what reasons?\n
      \n
      Honestly, all of them are really interesting, but NixOS does the most unique stuff; with only Guix doing something similar within the Linux landscape. To give you a taste of some of the wild stuff found on NixOS; there’s the so-called [Impermanence](https://nixos.wiki/wiki/Impermanence) module which -to my knowledge- happens to be the closest thing to a usable stateless system we’ve got; period. Consider reading [this excellent blog post](https://grahamc.com/blog/erase-your-darlings/) in case you’re interested to know what this entails.
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        Hi guys!\n
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        I am currently trying Arch in a VM and I like it a lot. Wanted to try the hardened kernel all the time, but it has the problem of forbidding custom namespaces.\n
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        Tbh I dont even know what that is, but on arch, installing `bubblewrap-suid` fixes the flatpak problem.\n
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      Basically, you want to not disable `kernel.unprivileged_userns_clone`.\n
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      Not OP. But for me, **atomic updates**, **reproducibility**, **(to some degree) declarative system configuration**, **increased security**, **built-in rollback functionality** and their consequences; **rock solid system even with relatively up to date packages**, **possibility to enable automatic updates in background without fearing breakage**, **(quasi) factory reset feature**, **setting up a new system in just a fraction of the time required otherwise** are the primary reasons why I absolutely adore atomic^[1]^ distros.\n
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      Not OP. But for me, **atomic updates**, **reproducibility**, **(to some degree) declarative system configuration**, **increased security**, **built-in rollback functionality** and their consequences; **rock solid system even with relatively up to date packages**, **possibility to enable automatic updates in background without fearing breakage**, **(quasi) factory reset feature**, **setting up a new system in just a fraction of the time required otherwise** are the primary reasons why I absolutely adore atomic^[1]^ distros.\n
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      Based on this, you’re basically looking for the ‘game console experience on your couch’. If that’s the case, honestly you shouldn’t look beyond^[1]^ [Bazzite](https://github.com/ublue-os/bazzite/).\n
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      1. While [ChimeraOS](https://chimeraos.org/) and [HoloISO](https://github.com/HoloISO/holoiso) also offer the ‘game console experience’, they don’t support Nvidia GPUs. So you would be on your own at best; which would be a horrible experience for a new user. If you feel particularly adventurous, then [Jovian-NixOS](https://github.com/Jovian-Experiments/Jovian-NixOS) is actually another option. But arguably less newbie-friendly compared to Bazzite.
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      - Updates are **atomic**; it either happens or doesn’t, there’s no in-between state. Even a power outage or a random crash doesn’t change that. This ensures your system isn’t broken if something unfortunate befalls it.\n
      - Additionally, the system (for the most part) is **reproducible**; I can rebuild my system from scratch (barring configs; unless your dotfiles management is sublime) and it is exactly the same as the one that has been running since the inception of Silverblue. Cruft, state, bitrot etc can finally be left behind…, *but we’re not their yet*. There’s still some amount of these present in Silverblue’s current model. But we’re embracing OCIs and Silverblue’s primary contributors know what’s up over at NixOS and (hopefully) are working to make Silverblue ever so slightly more stateless. Even if a lot of work is still required, it’s infinitely better than the traditional model as it has gone from an uncountable amount of possible states to a countable amount. And the mathematicians under us know that such an improvement is infinitely times better. Another benefit of where we are currently with reproducibility would be that it allows us to combat bugs effectively.\n
      - **Security** benefits due to more parts of the system being read-only. This is however (somewhat) offset due to lack of the aforementioned UKI support. Hopefully, the well-defined nature of an image-based distro will eventually make more robust system-integrity checks possible.\n
      - Not necessarily exclusively granted through/by ‘immutability’, but **system maintenance** has been a joy. Most of the time, it just works anyways. But, if somehow something breaks, then I can easily **rollback**; either through the terminal if I was able to get inside. Or through the GRUB-menu if the ‘broken’ deployment doesn’t allow me to get inside. Furthermore, you can even **pin** a confirmed working deployment through `sudo ostree admin pin *number*` to select the deployment to keep around for longer. I recommend everyone to keep around their first deployment after installing Silverblue, if used wisely it’s one of the closest things to a factory reset we’ve got within the Linux space.\n
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      > Am I going off the deep end by considering Fedora Silverblue or Kinoite?\n
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      I started my Linux journey on Kinoite, which unfortunately had some issues at the time of installing; after which I rebased to Silverblue, I have since ‘mained’ Silverblue while experimenting with a couple of other distros through dual-boot or on spare devices. The first two weeks were really hard as I literally knew nothing about Linux. The fact that documentation is -generally speaking- lacking doesn’t help either. But if I was able to surpass that initial barrier, then I’m sure you can too.\n
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      > I don’t really understand what new I would need to learn\n
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      - Not necessarily exclusively granted through/by ‘immutability’, but **system maintenance** has been a joy. Most of the time, it just works anyways. But, if somehow something breaks, then I can easily **rollback**; either through the terminal if I was able to get inside. Or through the GRUB-menu if the ‘broken’ deployment doesn’t allow me to get inside. Furthermore, you can even **pin** a confirmed working deployment through `sudo ostree admin pin *number*` to select the deployment to keep around for longer. I recommend everyone to keep around their first deployment after installing Silverblue, if used wisely it’s one of the closest things to a factory reset we’ve got within the Linux space.\n
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      I started my Linux journey on Kinoite, which unfortunately had some issues at the time of installing; after which I rebased to Silverblue, I have since ‘mained’ Silverblue while experimenting with a couple of other distros through dual-boot or on spare devices. The first two weeks were really hard as I literally knew nothing about Linux. The fact that documentation is -generally speaking- lacking doesn’t help either. But if I was able to surpass that initial barrier, then I’m sure you can too.\n
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      > I don’t really understand what new I would need to learn\n
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      - **Security** benefits due to more parts of the system being read-only. This is however (somewhat) offset due to lack of the aforementioned UKI support. Hopefully, the well-defined nature of an image-based distro will eventually make more robust system-integrity checks possible.\n
      - Not necessarily exclusively granted through/by ‘immutability’, but **system maintenance** has been a joy. Most of the time, it just works anyways. But, if somehow something breaks, then I can easily **rollback**; either through the terminal if I was able to get inside. Or through the GRUB-menu if the ‘broken’ deployment doesn’t allow me to get inside. Furthermore, you can even **pin** a confirmed working deployment through `sudo ostree admin pin *number*` to select the deployment to keep around for longer. I recommend everyone to keep around their first deployment after installing Silverblue, if used wisely it’s one of the closest things to a factory reset we’ve got within the Linux space.\n
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      > Am I going off the deep end by considering Fedora Silverblue or Kinoite?\n
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      I started my Linux journey on Kinoite, which unfortunately had some issues at the time of installing; after which I rebased to Silverblue, I have since ‘mained’ Silverblue while experimenting with a couple of other distros through dual-boot or on spare devices. The first two weeks were really hard as I literally knew nothing about Linux. The fact that documentation is -generally speaking- lacking doesn’t help either. But if I was able to surpass that initial barrier, then I’m sure you can too.\n
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      But, motivation is important! Why do you even consider an ‘immutable’ distro?\n
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      > I don’t really understand what new I would need to learn\n
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      You’d have to replace `sudo dnf install *package-name*` with `flatpak install *package-name*`. If, however, the package is not available as a flatpak, then -following Fedora’s initial guidelines- one should install it within a container through Toolbx(/Distrobox). After a container has been created (`toolbox create *pick name for container*`) and entered (`toolbox enter *chosen name for container*`), one simply behaves within the container as though how they would in a traditional distro. As a last resort -in case installing within a container is not possible, well supported or doesn’t work as intended- one can layer it (`rpm-ostree install *package-name*`).\n
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      Furthermore, `/usr` can’t be touched (at least not easily), except for `/usr/local`. And some features, like UKI, aren’t supported yet.\n
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      - Updates are **atomic**; it either happens or doesn’t, there’s no in-between state. Even a power outage or a random crash doesn’t change that. This ensures your system isn’t broken if something unfortunate befalls it.\n
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      - **Security** benefits due to more parts of the system being read-only. This is however (somewhat) offset due to lack of the aforementioned UKI support. Hopefully, the well-defined nature of an image-based distro will eventually make more robust system-integrity checks possible.\n
      - Not necessarily exclusively granted through/by ‘immutability’, but **system maintenance** has been a joy. Most of the time, it just works anyways. But, if somehow something breaks, then I can easily **rollback**; either through the terminal if I was able to get inside. Or through the GRUB-menu if the ‘broken’ deployment doesn’t allow me to get inside. Furthermore, you can even **pin** a confirmed working deployment through `sudo ostree admin pin *number*` to select the deployment to keep around for longer. I recommend everyone to keep around their first deployment after installing Silverblue, if used wisely it’s one of the closest things to a factory reset we’ve got within the Linux space.\n
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      I started my Linux journey on Kinoite, which unfortunately had some issues at the time of installing; after which I rebased to Silverblue, I have since ‘mained’ Silverblue while experimenting with a couple of other distros through dual-boot or on spare devices. The first two weeks were really hard as I literally knew nothing about Linux. The fact that documentation is -generally speaking- lacking doesn’t help either. But if I was able to surpass that initial barrier, then I’m sure you can too.\n
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      - Updates are **atomic**; it either happens or doesn’t, there’s no in-between state. Even a power outage or a random crash doesn’t change that. This ensures your system isn’t broken if something unfortunate befalls it.\n
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      - Not necessarily exclusively granted through/by ‘immutability’, but **system maintenance** has been a joy. Most of the time, it just works anyways. But, if somehow something breaks, then I can easily **rollback**; either through the terminal if I was able to get inside. Or through the GRUB-menu if the ‘broken’ deployment doesn’t allow me to get inside. Furthermore, you can even **pin** a confirmed working deployment through `sudo ostree admin pin *number*` to select the deployment to keep around for longer. I recommend everyone to keep around their first deployment after installing Silverblue, if used wisely it’s one of the closest things to a factory reset we’ve got within the Linux space.\n
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        I apologize if this has been asked a ton, still migrating to lemmy. Still stuck on crappy reddit out of habbit, but i’ve found the lemmy universe to be much more helpful.\n
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        Basically I’ve had a Dell Xps 13 9310 laptop for 4-5 years maybe? and I’ve put the thing through hell and back. Always (I believe) fixing it though and bringing it back to life. However, it seemed as if any linux distro i ever installed always had some sort of problems. I don’t know Linux well enough yet to be able to trouble shoot because it seems there’s many different routes to do it in Linux.\n
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        I’ve gone through so many distros and DEs and have tried everything on this thing. Well I think I finally bricked it after tinkering around with it. So I’m trying to plan a new budget setup.\n
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        I’ve always been a laptop guy because I love being able to lay on the couch by the TV and also have my laptop right there in front of me. I suppose im open to a small form or mini form desktop or box and just get a small display and a wireless keyboard/touchpad combo.\n
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        I just don’t know how to find what’s better compatible with linux. I see so much talk about “X” computers being great for Linux and to avoid “Y” computers because they dont work well with Linux (which I found out the newer Dells kinda suck. becoming more locked down and proprietary like Apple). I know there’s companys like Tuxedo or Pine or Pop Os that sell their specific Linux friendly devices, but those are all too expensive for me.\n
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        I’m looking for a machine that can easily handle Linux but also handle I guess a system or network, basically something strong enough to be a stable link in my entire network; if that makes sense. Because I have many plans for things I want to learn about and add to my network or system down the road. Also something durable and fairly user friendly.\n
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        The million dollar question(s)… how am I supposed to know which machines are better or even “compatible” with Linux? like all linux distros or flavors? I ran into a firmware/driver issue with my Dell and linux… they provided only a handful of drivers/firmware for ONLY Ubuntu 20.04. super limited and meant as a windows machine. As far as ram and storage, those are probably not pertinent and more of personal preference. But I guess it boils down to things like the cpu, gpu, ram, idk, whatever is important for Linux? any tips or advice is greatly appreciated. I want to finally take this serious and ensure I have the right equipment for what I want to do instead of falling for the newest, shiny things lol. Thanks
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        I apologize if this has been asked a ton, still migrating to lemmy. Still stuck on crappy reddit out of habbit, but i’ve found the lemmy universe to be much more helpful.\n
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        Basically I’ve had a Dell Xps 13 9310 laptop for 4-5 years maybe? and I’ve put the thing through hell and back. Always (I believe) fixing it though and bringing it back to life. However, it seemed as if any linux distro i ever installed always had some sort of problems. I don’t know Linux well enough yet to be able to trouble shoot because it seems there’s many different routes to do it in Linux.\n
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        I’ve gone through so many distros and DEs and have tried everything on this thing. Well I think I finally bricked it after tinkering around with it. So I’m trying to plan a new budget setup.\n
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        I’ve always been a laptop guy because I love being able to lay on the couch by the TV and also have my laptop right there in front of me. I suppose im open to a small form or mini form desktop or box and just get a small display and a wireless keyboard/touchpad combo.\n
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        I just don’t know how to find what’s better compatible with linux. I see so much talk about “X” computers being great for Linux and to avoid “Y” computers because they dont work well with Linux (which I found out the newer Dells kinda suck. becoming more locked down and proprietary like Apple). I know there’s companys like Tuxedo or Pine or Pop Os that sell their specific Linux friendly devices, but those are all too expensive for me.\n
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        I’m looking for a machine that can easily handle Linux but also handle I guess a system or network, basically something strong enough to be a stable link in my entire network; if that makes sense. Because I have many plans for things I want to learn about and add to my network or system down the road. Also something durable and fairly user friendly.\n
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        The million dollar question(s)… how am I supposed to know which machines are better or even “compatible” with Linux? like all linux distros or flavors? I ran into a firmware/driver issue with my Dell and linux… they provided only a handful of drivers/firmware for ONLY Ubuntu 20.04. super limited and meant as a windows machine. As far as ram and storage, those are probably not pertinent and more of personal preference. But I guess it boils down to things like the cpu, gpu, ram, idk, whatever is important for Linux? any tips or advice is greatly appreciated. I want to finally take this serious and ensure I have the right equipment for what I want to do instead of falling for the newest, shiny things lol. Thanks
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        I apologize if this has been asked a ton, still migrating to lemmy. Still stuck on crappy reddit out of habbit, but i’ve found the lemmy universe to be much more helpful.\n
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}
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Input props
[
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  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_SUB_CHANNEL_MAGAZINES"
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\UserSettingsRowSwitchComponent {#13377
  +label: "Show subscribed magazines"
  +help: ""
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  +defaultValue: false
  +reloadRequired: true
}
user_settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\UserSettingsRowSwitchComponent 14.0 MiB 0.18 ms
Input props
[
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  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_SUB_CHANNEL_DOMAINS"
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\UserSettingsRowSwitchComponent {#13333
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  +help: ""
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  +reloadRequired: true
}
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Input props
[
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]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#14867
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}
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Input props
[
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  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_ENTRIES_COMPACT"
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#9464
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  +reloadRequired: true
}
settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent 14.0 MiB 0.15 ms
Input props
[
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  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_ENTRIES_SHOW_USERS_AVATARS"
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#11862
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  +help: ""
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  +defaultValue: false
  +reloadRequired: true
}
settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent 14.0 MiB 0.15 ms
Input props
[
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  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_ENTRIES_SHOW_MAGAZINES_ICONS"
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#14716
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  +help: ""
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  +reloadRequired: true
}
settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent 16.0 MiB 0.14 ms
Input props
[
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  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_ENTRIES_SHOW_THUMBNAILS"
  "defaultValue" => true
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#15229
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  +reloadRequired: true
}
settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent 16.0 MiB 0.14 ms
Input props
[
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  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_POSTS_SHOW_PREVIEW"
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#15285
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}
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Input props
[
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  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_POSTS_SHOW_USERS_AVATARS"
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]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#15341
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}
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Input props
[
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]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowEnumComponent {#15397
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}
settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent 16.0 MiB 0.13 ms
Input props
[
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]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#15455
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}
user_actions App\Twig\Components\UserActionsComponent 16.0 MiB 0.46 ms
Input props
[
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App\Twig\Components\UserActionsComponent {#15531
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[
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]
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[]
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related_magazines App\Twig\Components\RelatedMagazinesComponent 16.0 MiB 5.76 ms
Input props
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]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\RelatedMagazinesComponent {#15679
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App\Twig\Components\MagazineInlineComponent {#15783
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}
active_users App\Twig\Components\ActiveUsersComponent 16.0 MiB 65.44 ms
Input props
[
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]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\ActiveUsersComponent {#15852
  +magazine: null
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  -cache: Symfony\Component\Cache\Adapter\TraceableTagAwareAdapter {#600 …}
  -twig: Twig\Environment {#1252 …}
  -requestStack: Symfony\Component\HttpFoundation\RequestStack {#1328 …}
}
related_categories App\Twig\Components\RelatedCategoriesComponent 16.0 MiB 3.85 ms
Input props
[
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  "tag" => null
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\RelatedCategoriesComponent {#15934
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  +magazine: null
  +type: "random"
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}
related_posts App\Twig\Components\RelatedPostsComponent 16.0 MiB 3.52 ms
Input props
[
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  "tag" => null
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\RelatedPostsComponent {#15988
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  +magazine: null
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}
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Input props
[
  "magazine" => null
  "tag" => null
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\RelatedEntriesComponent {#16075
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  +magazine: null
  +type: "random"
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  -twig: Twig\Environment {#1252 …}
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}
support_us_block App\Twig\Components\SupportUsBlock 16.0 MiB 0.25 ms
Input props
[]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SupportUsBlock {#16144
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  -requestStack: Symfony\Component\HttpFoundation\RequestStack {#1328 …}
  -partnerBlockRepository: App\Repository\PartnerBlockRepository {#16145 …}
}
featured_magazines App\Twig\Components\FeaturedMagazinesComponent 16.0 MiB 0.80 ms
Input props
[
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]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\FeaturedMagazinesComponent {#16237
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  -repository: App\Repository\MagazineRepository {#2438 …}
}