GET https://kbin.spritesserver.nl/u/@actual_patience@programming.dev/active

Response
200 OK
IP
136.243.228.194
Profiled on
Token
0e7e77

Components

21 Twig Components
227 Render Count
260 ms Render Time
20.0 MiB Memory Usage

Components

Name Metadata Render Count Render Time
date 
"App\Twig\Components\DateComponent"
components/date.html.twig 		29 4.58ms
user_inline 
"App\Twig\Components\UserInlineComponent"
components/user_inline.html.twig 		28 13.33ms
date_edited 
"App\Twig\Components\DateEditedComponent"
components/date_edited.html.twig 		28 6.98ms
vote 
"App\Twig\Components\VoteComponent"
components/vote.html.twig 		28 10.83ms
boost 
"App\Twig\Components\BoostComponent"
components/boost.html.twig 		28 34.16ms
entry_comment 
"App\Twig\Components\EntryCommentComponent"
components/entry_comment.html.twig 		20 128.65ms
user_avatar 
"App\Twig\Components\UserAvatarComponent"
components/user_avatar.html.twig 		20 3.08ms
settings_row_switch 
"App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent"
components/_settings_row_switch.html.twig 		15 22.12ms
entry 
"App\Twig\Components\EntryComponent"
components/_cached.html.twig 		8 85.31ms
magazine_inline 
"App\Twig\Components\MagazineInlineComponent"
components/magazine_inline.html.twig 		8 1.22ms
user_settings_row_switch 
"App\Twig\Components\UserSettingsRowSwitchComponent"
components/_user_settings_row_switch.html.twig 		4 0.71ms
settings_row_enum 
"App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowEnumComponent"
components/_settings_row_enum.html.twig 		2 0.41ms
user_box 
"App\Twig\Components\UserBoxComponent"
components/user_box.html.twig 		1 16.29ms
user_actions 
"App\Twig\Components\UserActionsComponent"
components/user_actions.html.twig 		1 15.69ms
related_magazines 
"App\Twig\Components\RelatedMagazinesComponent"
components/_cached.html.twig 		1 2.00ms
active_users 
"App\Twig\Components\ActiveUsersComponent"
components/_cached.html.twig 		1 0.20ms
related_categories 
"App\Twig\Components\RelatedCategoriesComponent"
components/_cached.html.twig 		1 1.25ms
related_posts 
"App\Twig\Components\RelatedPostsComponent"
components/_cached.html.twig 		1 1.29ms
related_entries 
"App\Twig\Components\RelatedEntriesComponent"
components/_cached.html.twig 		1 1.29ms
support_us_block 
"App\Twig\Components\SupportUsBlock"
components/_cached.html.twig 		1 0.19ms
featured_magazines 
"App\Twig\Components\FeaturedMagazinesComponent"
components/_cached.html.twig 		1 0.78ms

Render calls

user_box App\Twig\Components\UserBoxComponent 12.0 MiB 16.29 ms
Input props 
[
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      date: 2024-10-19 16:52:34.0 +02:00
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    +notifyOnNewPostReply: true
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]
Attributes 
[]
Component 
App\Twig\Components\UserBoxComponent {#2885
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    +magazineOwnershipRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#249 …}
    +moderatorRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#238 …}
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    +postCommentVotes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1479 …}
    +subscriptions: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1658 …}
    +subscribedDomains: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1868 …}
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user_actions App\Twig\Components\UserActionsComponent 12.0 MiB 15.69 ms
Input props 
[
  "user" => App\Entity\User {#265
    +avatar: null
    +cover: null
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    +roles: []
    +followersCount: 0
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    +lastActive: DateTime @1729349554 {#275
      date: 2024-10-19 16:52:34.0 +02:00
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Attributes 
[]
Component 
App\Twig\Components\UserActionsComponent {#3067
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          Olvid, a French alternative to WhatsApp, was made in 2019. It took a law passing last month **banning all ministers from using non in-house messaging services** to stop people from using WhatsApp. I wouldn’t consider that “trivially easy”.\n
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        - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
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        - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
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        - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
        - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
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          When businesses ask you to contact their help-desk via WhatsApp, it’s a utility. When people call and message friends, family, and colleagues *almost exclusively* on WhatsApp or Messenger, it’s a utility.\n
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          > It’s also putting the government in a position in which it functionally would have to provide a platform for everyone equally, Neo-Nazis […]\n
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          [Godwin’s Law](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law) People preaching [insert terrible belief] on a government platform would be removed and charged for hate speech *just as much as* they would be if preaching these things in public spaces. If your government gives people with terrible_belief.jpg the chance to preach on public property, that’s not a public property issue, **that’s a government issue**.\n
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          First off, I think you are being very rude. I didn’t call you names or make assumptions, so please treat this with more respect than a Twitter thread.\n
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          > WhatsApp, by comparison, is trivially easy to replace.\n
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          Olvid, a French alternative to WhatsApp, was made in 2019. It took a law passing last month **banning all ministers from using non in-house messaging services** to stop people from using WhatsApp. I wouldn’t consider that “trivially easy”.\n
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      - [Lemmy.ml libre_culture](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_culture)\n
      - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
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      - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
      - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
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        - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
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          > WhatsApp, by comparison, is trivially easy to replace.\n
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          Olvid, a French alternative to WhatsApp, was made in 2019. It took a law passing last month **banning all ministers from using non in-house messaging services** to stop people from using WhatsApp. I wouldn’t consider that “trivially easy”.\n
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          First off, I think you are being very rude. I didn’t call you names or make assumptions, so please treat this with more respect than a Twitter thread.\n
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          > WhatsApp, by comparison, is trivially easy to replace.\n
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          Olvid, a French alternative to WhatsApp, was made in 2019. It took a law passing last month **banning all ministers from using non in-house messaging services** to stop people from using WhatsApp. I wouldn’t consider that “trivially easy”.\n
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          You didn’t mention Internet access and so neither did I. I’m happy we both agree it should be a utility.\n
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        - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
        - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
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        - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
        - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
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          Olvid, a French alternative to WhatsApp, was made in 2019. It took a law passing last month **banning all ministers from using non in-house messaging services** to stop people from using WhatsApp. I wouldn’t consider that “trivially easy”.\n
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        ### Related communities\n
        \n
        - [Lemmy.ml libre_culture](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_culture)\n
        - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
        - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
        - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
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        \n
        - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
        - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
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          Olvid, a French alternative to WhatsApp, was made in 2019. It took a law passing last month **banning all ministers from using non in-house messaging services** to stop people from using WhatsApp. I wouldn’t consider that “trivially easy”.\n
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          - [Lemmy.ml libre_culture](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_culture)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
          - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
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          - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
          - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
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        cross-posted from: [lemmy.ml/post/11136426](https://lemmy.ml/post/11136426)\n
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        > [nitter.d420.de](https://nitter.d420.de)\n
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        > Goodbye twitter I guess. There’s no longer any way to see twitter things people send you without an account
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            First off, I think you are being very rude. I didn’t call you names or make assumptions, so please treat this with more respect than a Twitter thread.\n
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            > WhatsApp, by comparison, is trivially easy to replace.\n
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            Olvid, a French alternative to WhatsApp, was made in 2019. It took a law passing last month **banning all ministers from using non in-house messaging services** to stop people from using WhatsApp. I wouldn’t consider that “trivially easy”.\n
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          Privacy has become a very important issue in modern society, with companies and governments constantly abusing their power, more and more people are waking up to the importance of digital privacy.\n
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          ### Related communities\n
          \n
          - [Lemmy.ml libre_culture](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_culture)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
          - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
          \n
          ### Chat rooms\n
          \n
          - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
          - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
          \n
          much thanks to @gary_host_laptop for the logo design :)
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        cross-posted from: [lemmy.ml/post/11136426](https://lemmy.ml/post/11136426)\n
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        > [nitter.d420.de](https://nitter.d420.de)\n
        > \n
        > Goodbye twitter I guess. There’s no longer any way to see twitter things people send you without an account
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            First off, I think you are being very rude. I didn’t call you names or make assumptions, so please treat this with more respect than a Twitter thread.\n
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            > WhatsApp, by comparison, is trivially easy to replace.\n
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            Olvid, a French alternative to WhatsApp, was made in 2019. It took a law passing last month **banning all ministers from using non in-house messaging services** to stop people from using WhatsApp. I wouldn’t consider that “trivially easy”.\n
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            I already said this is a “government problem”. I said this *in reference* to the US government, because this isn’t really an issue for most countries :/
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      When businesses ask you to contact their help-desk via WhatsApp, it’s a utility. When people call and message friends, family, and colleagues *almost exclusively* on WhatsApp or Messenger, it’s a utility.\n
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      [Godwin’s Law](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law) People preaching [insert terrible belief] on a government platform would be removed and charged for hate speech *just as much as* they would be if preaching these things in public spaces. If your government gives people with terrible_belief.jpg the chance to preach on public property, that’s not a public property issue, **that’s a government issue**.\n
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          ### Related communities\n
          \n
          - [Lemmy.ml libre_culture](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_culture)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
          - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
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          \n
          - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
          - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
          \n
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        cross-posted from: [lemmy.ml/post/11136426](https://lemmy.ml/post/11136426)\n
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        > [nitter.d420.de](https://nitter.d420.de)\n
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        > Goodbye twitter I guess. There’s no longer any way to see twitter things people send you without an account
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            First off, I think you are being very rude. I didn’t call you names or make assumptions, so please treat this with more respect than a Twitter thread.\n
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            Olvid, a French alternative to WhatsApp, was made in 2019. It took a law passing last month **banning all ministers from using non in-house messaging services** to stop people from using WhatsApp. I wouldn’t consider that “trivially easy”.\n
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            You didn’t mention Internet access and so neither did I. I’m happy we both agree it should be a utility.\n
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            I already said this is a “government problem”. I said this *in reference* to the US government, because this isn’t really an issue for most countries :/
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      [Godwin’s Law](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law) People preaching [insert terrible belief] on a government platform would be removed and charged for hate speech *just as much as* they would be if preaching these things in public spaces. If your government gives people with terrible_belief.jpg the chance to preach on public property, that’s not a public property issue, **that’s a government issue**.\n
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          - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
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            > WhatsApp, by comparison, is trivially easy to replace.\n
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          - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
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          \n
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          - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
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        cross-posted from: [lemmy.ml/post/11136426](https://lemmy.ml/post/11136426)\n
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        > [nitter.d420.de](https://nitter.d420.de)\n
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        > Goodbye twitter I guess. There’s no longer any way to see twitter things people send you without an account
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            First off, I think you are being very rude. I didn’t call you names or make assumptions, so please treat this with more respect than a Twitter thread.\n
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            > WhatsApp, by comparison, is trivially easy to replace.\n
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            Olvid, a French alternative to WhatsApp, was made in 2019. It took a law passing last month **banning all ministers from using non in-house messaging services** to stop people from using WhatsApp. I wouldn’t consider that “trivially easy”.\n
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          - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
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          - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
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        > [nitter.d420.de](https://nitter.d420.de)\n
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            When businesses ask you to contact their help-desk via WhatsApp, it’s a utility. When people call and message friends, family, and colleagues *almost exclusively* on WhatsApp or Messenger, it’s a utility.\n
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            [Godwin’s Law](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law) People preaching [insert terrible belief] on a government platform would be removed and charged for hate speech *just as much as* they would be if preaching these things in public spaces. If your government gives people with terrible_belief.jpg the chance to preach on public property, that’s not a public property issue, **that’s a government issue**.\n
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      First off, I think you are being very rude. I didn’t call you names or make assumptions, so please treat this with more respect than a Twitter thread.\n
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      Olvid, a French alternative to WhatsApp, was made in 2019. It took a law passing last month **banning all ministers from using non in-house messaging services** to stop people from using WhatsApp. I wouldn’t consider that “trivially easy”.\n
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          - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
          - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
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          \n
          - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
          - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
          \n
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        cross-posted from: [lemmy.ml/post/11136426](https://lemmy.ml/post/11136426)\n
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            When businesses ask you to contact their help-desk via WhatsApp, it’s a utility. When people call and message friends, family, and colleagues *almost exclusively* on WhatsApp or Messenger, it’s a utility.\n
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            [Godwin’s Law](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law) People preaching [insert terrible belief] on a government platform would be removed and charged for hate speech *just as much as* they would be if preaching these things in public spaces. If your government gives people with terrible_belief.jpg the chance to preach on public property, that’s not a public property issue, **that’s a government issue**.\n
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      First off, I think you are being very rude. I didn’t call you names or make assumptions, so please treat this with more respect than a Twitter thread.\n
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      Olvid, a French alternative to WhatsApp, was made in 2019. It took a law passing last month **banning all ministers from using non in-house messaging services** to stop people from using WhatsApp. I wouldn’t consider that “trivially easy”.\n
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          - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
          - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
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          \n
          - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
          - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
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        cross-posted from: [lemmy.ml/post/11136426](https://lemmy.ml/post/11136426)\n
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        > [nitter.d420.de](https://nitter.d420.de)\n
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        > Goodbye twitter I guess. There’s no longer any way to see twitter things people send you without an account
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          ### Related communities\n
          \n
          - [Lemmy.ml libre_culture](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_culture)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
          - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
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          ### Chat rooms\n
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          - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
          - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
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            When businesses ask you to contact their help-desk via WhatsApp, it’s a utility. When people call and message friends, family, and colleagues *almost exclusively* on WhatsApp or Messenger, it’s a utility.\n
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      Olvid, a French alternative to WhatsApp, was made in 2019. It took a law passing last month **banning all ministers from using non in-house messaging services** to stop people from using WhatsApp. I wouldn’t consider that “trivially easy”.\n
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          - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
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        cross-posted from: [lemmy.ml/post/11136426](https://lemmy.ml/post/11136426)\n
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        > [nitter.d420.de](https://nitter.d420.de)\n
        > \n
        > Goodbye twitter I guess. There’s no longer any way to see twitter things people send you without an account
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            When businesses ask you to contact their help-desk via WhatsApp, it’s a utility. When people call and message friends, family, and colleagues *almost exclusively* on WhatsApp or Messenger, it’s a utility.\n
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            > It’s also putting the government in a position in which it functionally would have to provide a platform for everyone equally, Neo-Nazis […]\n
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            [Godwin’s Law](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law) People preaching [insert terrible belief] on a government platform would be removed and charged for hate speech *just as much as* they would be if preaching these things in public spaces. If your government gives people with terrible_belief.jpg the chance to preach on public property, that’s not a public property issue, **that’s a government issue**.\n
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          - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
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            [Godwin’s Law](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law) People preaching [insert terrible belief] on a government platform would be removed and charged for hate speech *just as much as* they would be if preaching these things in public spaces. If your government gives people with terrible_belief.jpg the chance to preach on public property, that’s not a public property issue, **that’s a government issue**.\n
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            No, it isn’t. If anything, turning certain popular social media apps into public utilities would **limit** them from being pure dopamine hits. Let other websites exist to fill the cesspool void. Not the one my grandma uses.
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      First off, I think you are being very rude. I didn’t call you names or make assumptions, so please treat this with more respect than a Twitter thread.\n
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      > WhatsApp, by comparison, is trivially easy to replace.\n
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      Olvid, a French alternative to WhatsApp, was made in 2019. It took a law passing last month **banning all ministers from using non in-house messaging services** to stop people from using WhatsApp. I wouldn’t consider that “trivially easy”.\n
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      You didn’t mention Internet access and so neither did I. I’m happy we both agree it should be a utility.\n
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          Community icon by [Alpár-Etele Méder](https://www.iconfinder.com/pocike), licensed under [CC BY 3.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/)
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        > It is by design non-invasive and should work on any distro which meets the requirements; Btrfs root and systemd-boot bootloader. With non-invasive I mean; it doesn’t mess with your normal OS and its configuration, it can be rolled out, toyed around with and just as easily be removed again.\n
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            > “subvolume - cannot be snapshotted if it contains any active swapfiles”\n
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          > If current licenses have the problem that big companies just ignore the terms set out in the license, I wouldn’t imagine making a new sort of license with different terms like “big companies have to pay to get the benefit of using Pots-Open Source software” is really going to work.\n
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          > In my opinion, the issue is that a cell phone is such a free-software-hostile environment that arguably GPL software shouldn’t “be allowed to” come into contact with it in any capacity if the spirit of the GPL were being upheld.\n
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          How are phones free-software-hostile? I know IOS is, but Android not really. There’s a list of open source Android distributions. Although not very good, they are viable.\n
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          > they only use Linux because it’s free. Companies create hardware on Linux because it’s free\n
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          > Nearly all of FOSS is funded by corporations whether you like it or not\n
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      TLDR: Companies should be required to pay developers for any open source software they use.\n
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      It’s an interesting concept, but I don’t really see any feasible means to get this to kick off.\n
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          If you had also read the article BTW you would have realized that **spoilers**: it’s not about source code availability.\n
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          > If current licenses have the problem that big companies just ignore the terms set out in the license, I wouldn’t imagine making a new sort of license with different terms like “big companies have to pay to get the benefit of using Pots-Open Source software” is really going to work.\n
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          > In my opinion, the issue is that a cell phone is such a free-software-hostile environment that arguably GPL software shouldn’t “be allowed to” come into contact with it in any capacity if the spirit of the GPL were being upheld.\n
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          How are phones free-software-hostile? I know IOS is, but Android not really. There’s a list of open source Android distributions. Although not very good, they are viable.\n
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          > they only use Linux because it’s free. Companies create hardware on Linux because it’s free\n
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          Companies use open source software because it’s the cheapest option. It’s all about margins.\n
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          > Nearly all of FOSS is funded by corporations whether you like it or not\n
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          Well the question is, how would such a license look like? Or would it be a contract and not a license?\n
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      TLDR: Companies should be required to pay developers for any open source software they use.\n
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          > If current licenses have the problem that big companies just ignore the terms set out in the license, I wouldn’t imagine making a new sort of license with different terms like “big companies have to pay to get the benefit of using Pots-Open Source software” is really going to work.\n
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          > In my opinion, the issue is that a cell phone is such a free-software-hostile environment that arguably GPL software shouldn’t “be allowed to” come into contact with it in any capacity if the spirit of the GPL were being upheld.\n
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          > they only use Linux because it’s free. Companies create hardware on Linux because it’s free\n
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          Well the question is, how would such a license look like? Or would it be a contract and not a license?\n
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      TLDR: Companies should be required to pay developers for any open source software they use.\n
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      It’s an interesting concept, but I don’t really see any feasible means to get this to kick off.\n
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          If you had also read the article BTW you would have realized that **spoilers**: it’s not about source code availability.\n
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          > If current licenses have the problem that big companies just ignore the terms set out in the license, I wouldn’t imagine making a new sort of license with different terms like “big companies have to pay to get the benefit of using Pots-Open Source software” is really going to work.\n
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          > In my opinion, the issue is that a cell phone is such a free-software-hostile environment that arguably GPL software shouldn’t “be allowed to” come into contact with it in any capacity if the spirit of the GPL were being upheld.\n
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          How are phones free-software-hostile? I know IOS is, but Android not really. There’s a list of open source Android distributions. Although not very good, they are viable.\n
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          > they only use Linux because it’s free. Companies create hardware on Linux because it’s free\n
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          Companies use open source software because it’s the cheapest option. It’s all about margins.\n
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          > Nearly all of FOSS is funded by corporations whether you like it or not\n
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          Well the question is, how would such a license look like? Or would it be a contract and not a license?\n
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          > If current licenses have the problem that big companies just ignore the terms set out in the license, I wouldn’t imagine making a new sort of license with different terms like “big companies have to pay to get the benefit of using Pots-Open Source software” is really going to work.\n
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          > In my opinion, the issue is that a cell phone is such a free-software-hostile environment that arguably GPL software shouldn’t “be allowed to” come into contact with it in any capacity if the spirit of the GPL were being upheld.\n
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          How are phones free-software-hostile? I know IOS is, but Android not really. There’s a list of open source Android distributions. Although not very good, they are viable.\n
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          > they only use Linux because it’s free. Companies create hardware on Linux because it’s free\n
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          > Nearly all of FOSS is funded by corporations whether you like it or not\n
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          > If current licenses have the problem that big companies just ignore the terms set out in the license, I wouldn’t imagine making a new sort of license with different terms like “big companies have to pay to get the benefit of using Pots-Open Source software” is really going to work.\n
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          > In my opinion, the issue is that a cell phone is such a free-software-hostile environment that arguably GPL software shouldn’t “be allowed to” come into contact with it in any capacity if the spirit of the GPL were being upheld.\n
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          > they only use Linux because it’s free. Companies create hardware on Linux because it’s free\n
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            > If current licenses have the problem that big companies just ignore the terms set out in the license, I wouldn’t imagine making a new sort of license with different terms like “big companies have to pay to get the benefit of using Pots-Open Source software” is really going to work.\n
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            > In my opinion, the issue is that a cell phone is such a free-software-hostile environment that arguably GPL software shouldn’t “be allowed to” come into contact with it in any capacity if the spirit of the GPL were being upheld.\n
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            Well the question is, how would such a license look like? Or would it be a contract and not a license?\n
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            > If current licenses have the problem that big companies just ignore the terms set out in the license, I wouldn’t imagine making a new sort of license with different terms like “big companies have to pay to get the benefit of using Pots-Open Source software” is really going to work.\n
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            It’s more that they avoid the spirit of the licensing, not the terms (except Red Hat of course).\n
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            > In my opinion, the issue is that a cell phone is such a free-software-hostile environment that arguably GPL software shouldn’t “be allowed to” come into contact with it in any capacity if the spirit of the GPL were being upheld.\n
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            How are phones free-software-hostile? I know IOS is, but Android not really. There’s a list of open source Android distributions. Although not very good, they are viable.\n
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            > they only use Linux because it’s free. Companies create hardware on Linux because it’s free\n
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            Companies use open source software because it’s the cheapest option. It’s all about margins.\n
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            > Nearly all of FOSS is funded by corporations whether you like it or not\n
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            Yes, and FOSS can get a lot more funding if they charged companies even a little bit.\n
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            Well the question is, how would such a license look like? Or would it be a contract and not a license?\n
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            I guess I should ask a lawyer these questions, but I wanted to see what others here thought about the idea.
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      If you had also read the article BTW you would have realized that **spoilers**: it’s not about source code availability.\n
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            > If current licenses have the problem that big companies just ignore the terms set out in the license, I wouldn’t imagine making a new sort of license with different terms like “big companies have to pay to get the benefit of using Pots-Open Source software” is really going to work.\n
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            > they only use Linux because it’s free. Companies create hardware on Linux because it’s free\n
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            > Nearly all of FOSS is funded by corporations whether you like it or not\n
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            Well the question is, how would such a license look like? Or would it be a contract and not a license?\n
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            > If current licenses have the problem that big companies just ignore the terms set out in the license, I wouldn’t imagine making a new sort of license with different terms like “big companies have to pay to get the benefit of using Pots-Open Source software” is really going to work.\n
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            > In my opinion, the issue is that a cell phone is such a free-software-hostile environment that arguably GPL software shouldn’t “be allowed to” come into contact with it in any capacity if the spirit of the GPL were being upheld.\n
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            How are phones free-software-hostile? I know IOS is, but Android not really. There’s a list of open source Android distributions. Although not very good, they are viable.\n
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            > they only use Linux because it’s free. Companies create hardware on Linux because it’s free\n
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            > Nearly all of FOSS is funded by corporations whether you like it or not\n
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            Well the question is, how would such a license look like? Or would it be a contract and not a license?\n
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      If you had also read the article BTW you would have realized that **spoilers**: it’s not about source code availability.\n
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            > If current licenses have the problem that big companies just ignore the terms set out in the license, I wouldn’t imagine making a new sort of license with different terms like “big companies have to pay to get the benefit of using Pots-Open Source software” is really going to work.\n
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            > In my opinion, the issue is that a cell phone is such a free-software-hostile environment that arguably GPL software shouldn’t “be allowed to” come into contact with it in any capacity if the spirit of the GPL were being upheld.\n
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            > they only use Linux because it’s free. Companies create hardware on Linux because it’s free\n
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            Well the question is, how would such a license look like? Or would it be a contract and not a license?\n
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        TLDR: Companies should be required to pay developers for any open source software they use.\n
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        > He imagines a simple yearly compliance process that gets companies all the rights they need to use Post-Open software. And they’d fund developers who would be encouraged to write software that’s usable by the common person, as opposed to technical experts.\n
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        It’s an interesting concept, but I don’t really see any feasible means to get this to kick off.\n
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            > If current licenses have the problem that big companies just ignore the terms set out in the license, I wouldn’t imagine making a new sort of license with different terms like “big companies have to pay to get the benefit of using Pots-Open Source software” is really going to work.\n
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            > In my opinion, the issue is that a cell phone is such a free-software-hostile environment that arguably GPL software shouldn’t “be allowed to” come into contact with it in any capacity if the spirit of the GPL were being upheld.\n
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            How are phones free-software-hostile? I know IOS is, but Android not really. There’s a list of open source Android distributions. Although not very good, they are viable.\n
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            > they only use Linux because it’s free. Companies create hardware on Linux because it’s free\n
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            Companies use open source software because it’s the cheapest option. It’s all about margins.\n
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            > Nearly all of FOSS is funded by corporations whether you like it or not\n
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            Yes, and FOSS can get a lot more funding if they charged companies even a little bit.\n
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            Well the question is, how would such a license look like? Or would it be a contract and not a license?\n
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            > If current licenses have the problem that big companies just ignore the terms set out in the license, I wouldn’t imagine making a new sort of license with different terms like “big companies have to pay to get the benefit of using Pots-Open Source software” is really going to work.\n
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            > In my opinion, the issue is that a cell phone is such a free-software-hostile environment that arguably GPL software shouldn’t “be allowed to” come into contact with it in any capacity if the spirit of the GPL were being upheld.\n
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            > they only use Linux because it’s free. Companies create hardware on Linux because it’s free\n
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            If you had also read the article BTW you would have realized that **spoilers**: it’s not about source code availability.\n
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            > If current licenses have the problem that big companies just ignore the terms set out in the license, I wouldn’t imagine making a new sort of license with different terms like “big companies have to pay to get the benefit of using Pots-Open Source software” is really going to work.\n
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            > In my opinion, the issue is that a cell phone is such a free-software-hostile environment that arguably GPL software shouldn’t “be allowed to” come into contact with it in any capacity if the spirit of the GPL were being upheld.\n
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            How are phones free-software-hostile? I know IOS is, but Android not really. There’s a list of open source Android distributions. Although not very good, they are viable.\n
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            > they only use Linux because it’s free. Companies create hardware on Linux because it’s free\n
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            Companies use open source software because it’s the cheapest option. It’s all about margins.\n
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            If you had also read the article BTW you would have realized that **spoilers**: it’s not about source code availability.\n
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            > If current licenses have the problem that big companies just ignore the terms set out in the license, I wouldn’t imagine making a new sort of license with different terms like “big companies have to pay to get the benefit of using Pots-Open Source software” is really going to work.\n
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            > In my opinion, the issue is that a cell phone is such a free-software-hostile environment that arguably GPL software shouldn’t “be allowed to” come into contact with it in any capacity if the spirit of the GPL were being upheld.\n
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            How are phones free-software-hostile? I know IOS is, but Android not really. There’s a list of open source Android distributions. Although not very good, they are viable.\n
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            > they only use Linux because it’s free. Companies create hardware on Linux because it’s free\n
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            Companies use open source software because it’s the cheapest option. It’s all about margins.\n
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            > Nearly all of FOSS is funded by corporations whether you like it or not\n
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            If you had also read the article BTW you would have realized that **spoilers**: it’s not about source code availability.\n
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            > If current licenses have the problem that big companies just ignore the terms set out in the license, I wouldn’t imagine making a new sort of license with different terms like “big companies have to pay to get the benefit of using Pots-Open Source software” is really going to work.\n
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            > If current licenses have the problem that big companies just ignore the terms set out in the license, I wouldn’t imagine making a new sort of license with different terms like “big companies have to pay to get the benefit of using Pots-Open Source software” is really going to work.\n
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            It’s more that they avoid the spirit of the licensing, not the terms (except Red Hat of course).\n
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            > In my opinion, the issue is that a cell phone is such a free-software-hostile environment that arguably GPL software shouldn’t “be allowed to” come into contact with it in any capacity if the spirit of the GPL were being upheld.\n
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            How are phones free-software-hostile? I know IOS is, but Android not really. There’s a list of open source Android distributions. Although not very good, they are viable.\n
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            > they only use Linux because it’s free. Companies create hardware on Linux because it’s free\n
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            > Nearly all of FOSS is funded by corporations whether you like it or not\n
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            Well the question is, how would such a license look like? Or would it be a contract and not a license?\n
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            If you had also read the article BTW you would have realized that **spoilers**: it’s not about source code availability.\n
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            Reading the whole thing you’d realize it’s a list of reasons why open source software hasn’t become popular with the wider public, and his proposed solution to this.\n
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            > If current licenses have the problem that big companies just ignore the terms set out in the license, I wouldn’t imagine making a new sort of license with different terms like “big companies have to pay to get the benefit of using Pots-Open Source software” is really going to work.\n
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            It’s more that they avoid the spirit of the licensing, not the terms (except Red Hat of course).\n
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            > In my opinion, the issue is that a cell phone is such a free-software-hostile environment that arguably GPL software shouldn’t “be allowed to” come into contact with it in any capacity if the spirit of the GPL were being upheld.\n
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            How are phones free-software-hostile? I know IOS is, but Android not really. There’s a list of open source Android distributions. Although not very good, they are viable.\n
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            > they only use Linux because it’s free. Companies create hardware on Linux because it’s free\n
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            Companies use open source software because it’s the cheapest option. It’s all about margins.\n
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            Well the question is, how would such a license look like? Or would it be a contract and not a license?\n
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        TLDR: Companies should be required to pay developers for any open source software they use.\n
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        It’s an interesting concept, but I don’t really see any feasible means to get this to kick off.\n
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            If you had also read the article BTW you would have realized that **spoilers**: it’s not about source code availability.\n
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            > In my opinion, the issue is that a cell phone is such a free-software-hostile environment that arguably GPL software shouldn’t “be allowed to” come into contact with it in any capacity if the spirit of the GPL were being upheld.\n
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            > they only use Linux because it’s free. Companies create hardware on Linux because it’s free\n
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            Companies use open source software because it’s the cheapest option. It’s all about margins.\n
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            Well the question is, how would such a license look like? Or would it be a contract and not a license?\n
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            I guess I should ask a lawyer these questions, but I wanted to see what others here thought about the idea.
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      > If current licenses have the problem that big companies just ignore the terms set out in the license, I wouldn’t imagine making a new sort of license with different terms like “big companies have to pay to get the benefit of using Pots-Open Source software” is really going to work.\n
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      It’s more that they avoid the spirit of the licensing, not the terms (except Red Hat of course).\n
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        TLDR: Companies should be required to pay developers for any open source software they use.\n
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        > He imagines a simple yearly compliance process that gets companies all the rights they need to use Post-Open software. And they’d fund developers who would be encouraged to write software that’s usable by the common person, as opposed to technical experts.\n
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        It’s an interesting concept, but I don’t really see any feasible means to get this to kick off.\n
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        What are your thoughts on it?
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            If you had also read the article BTW you would have realized that **spoilers**: it’s not about source code availability.\n
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            > In my opinion, the issue is that a cell phone is such a free-software-hostile environment that arguably GPL software shouldn’t “be allowed to” come into contact with it in any capacity if the spirit of the GPL were being upheld.\n
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            How are phones free-software-hostile? I know IOS is, but Android not really. There’s a list of open source Android distributions. Although not very good, they are viable.\n
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            > they only use Linux because it’s free. Companies create hardware on Linux because it’s free\n
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            Companies use open source software because it’s the cheapest option. It’s all about margins.\n
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            > Nearly all of FOSS is funded by corporations whether you like it or not\n
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            Yes, and FOSS can get a lot more funding if they charged companies even a little bit.\n
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          +body: "Let’s not be nihilist here. It’s better to come up with solutions than to give up."
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            Well the question is, how would such a license look like? Or would it be a contract and not a license?\n
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        TLDR: Companies should be required to pay developers for any open source software they use.\n
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        > He imagines a simple yearly compliance process that gets companies all the rights they need to use Post-Open software. And they’d fund developers who would be encouraged to write software that’s usable by the common person, as opposed to technical experts.\n
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        It’s an interesting concept, but I don’t really see any feasible means to get this to kick off.\n
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        What are your thoughts on it?
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            If you had also read the article BTW you would have realized that **spoilers**: it’s not about source code availability.\n
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            > In my opinion, the issue is that a cell phone is such a free-software-hostile environment that arguably GPL software shouldn’t “be allowed to” come into contact with it in any capacity if the spirit of the GPL were being upheld.\n
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            How are phones free-software-hostile? I know IOS is, but Android not really. There’s a list of open source Android distributions. Although not very good, they are viable.\n
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            > they only use Linux because it’s free. Companies create hardware on Linux because it’s free\n
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            Companies use open source software because it’s the cheapest option. It’s all about margins.\n
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          +body: "Let’s not be nihilist here. It’s better to come up with solutions than to give up."
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            Well the question is, how would such a license look like? Or would it be a contract and not a license?\n
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            I guess I should ask a lawyer these questions, but I wanted to see what others here thought about the idea.
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          +body: "The fee could be really small but scale depending on factors like business size. Or there could be no fee outright for businesses smaller than a certain size."
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      > If current licenses have the problem that big companies just ignore the terms set out in the license, I wouldn’t imagine making a new sort of license with different terms like “big companies have to pay to get the benefit of using Pots-Open Source software” is really going to work.\n
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      It’s more that they avoid the spirit of the licensing, not the terms (except Red Hat of course).\n
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            > In my opinion, the issue is that a cell phone is such a free-software-hostile environment that arguably GPL software shouldn’t “be allowed to” come into contact with it in any capacity if the spirit of the GPL were being upheld.\n
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            > they only use Linux because it’s free. Companies create hardware on Linux because it’s free\n
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            Well the question is, how would such a license look like? Or would it be a contract and not a license?\n
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            > In my opinion, the issue is that a cell phone is such a free-software-hostile environment that arguably GPL software shouldn’t “be allowed to” come into contact with it in any capacity if the spirit of the GPL were being upheld.\n
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            Well the question is, how would such a license look like? Or would it be a contract and not a license?\n
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            > In my opinion, the issue is that a cell phone is such a free-software-hostile environment that arguably GPL software shouldn’t “be allowed to” come into contact with it in any capacity if the spirit of the GPL were being upheld.\n
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            > they only use Linux because it’s free. Companies create hardware on Linux because it’s free\n
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            Well the question is, how would such a license look like? Or would it be a contract and not a license?\n
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      > If current licenses have the problem that big companies just ignore the terms set out in the license, I wouldn’t imagine making a new sort of license with different terms like “big companies have to pay to get the benefit of using Pots-Open Source software” is really going to work.\n
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            > If current licenses have the problem that big companies just ignore the terms set out in the license, I wouldn’t imagine making a new sort of license with different terms like “big companies have to pay to get the benefit of using Pots-Open Source software” is really going to work.\n
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            > they only use Linux because it’s free. Companies create hardware on Linux because it’s free\n
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            > Nearly all of FOSS is funded by corporations whether you like it or not\n
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            Well the question is, how would such a license look like? Or would it be a contract and not a license?\n
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      > In my opinion, the issue is that a cell phone is such a free-software-hostile environment that arguably GPL software shouldn’t “be allowed to” come into contact with it in any capacity if the spirit of the GPL were being upheld.\n
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      How are phones free-software-hostile? I know IOS is, but Android not really. There’s a list of open source Android distributions. Although not very good, they are viable.\n
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        TLDR: Companies should be required to pay developers for any open source software they use.\n
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            If you had also read the article BTW you would have realized that **spoilers**: it’s not about source code availability.\n
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            > If current licenses have the problem that big companies just ignore the terms set out in the license, I wouldn’t imagine making a new sort of license with different terms like “big companies have to pay to get the benefit of using Pots-Open Source software” is really going to work.\n
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            > they only use Linux because it’s free. Companies create hardware on Linux because it’s free\n
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            Companies use open source software because it’s the cheapest option. It’s all about margins.\n
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            Well the question is, how would such a license look like? Or would it be a contract and not a license?\n
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            I guess I should ask a lawyer these questions, but I wanted to see what others here thought about the idea.
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      > In my opinion, the issue is that a cell phone is such a free-software-hostile environment that arguably GPL software shouldn’t “be allowed to” come into contact with it in any capacity if the spirit of the GPL were being upheld.\n
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            If you had also read the article BTW you would have realized that **spoilers**: it’s not about source code availability.\n
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            > If current licenses have the problem that big companies just ignore the terms set out in the license, I wouldn’t imagine making a new sort of license with different terms like “big companies have to pay to get the benefit of using Pots-Open Source software” is really going to work.\n
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            > they only use Linux because it’s free. Companies create hardware on Linux because it’s free\n
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            Companies use open source software because it’s the cheapest option. It’s all about margins.\n
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            > Nearly all of FOSS is funded by corporations whether you like it or not\n
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            Well the question is, how would such a license look like? Or would it be a contract and not a license?\n
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      > In my opinion, the issue is that a cell phone is such a free-software-hostile environment that arguably GPL software shouldn’t “be allowed to” come into contact with it in any capacity if the spirit of the GPL were being upheld.\n
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      How are phones free-software-hostile? I know IOS is, but Android not really. There’s a list of open source Android distributions. Although not very good, they are viable.\n
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            If you had also read the article BTW you would have realized that **spoilers**: it’s not about source code availability.\n
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            > If current licenses have the problem that big companies just ignore the terms set out in the license, I wouldn’t imagine making a new sort of license with different terms like “big companies have to pay to get the benefit of using Pots-Open Source software” is really going to work.\n
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            > they only use Linux because it’s free. Companies create hardware on Linux because it’s free\n
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            Well the question is, how would such a license look like? Or would it be a contract and not a license?\n
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      > In my opinion, the issue is that a cell phone is such a free-software-hostile environment that arguably GPL software shouldn’t “be allowed to” come into contact with it in any capacity if the spirit of the GPL were being upheld.\n
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        TLDR: Companies should be required to pay developers for any open source software they use.\n
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        > He imagines a simple yearly compliance process that gets companies all the rights they need to use Post-Open software. And they’d fund developers who would be encouraged to write software that’s usable by the common person, as opposed to technical experts.\n
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        It’s an interesting concept, but I don’t really see any feasible means to get this to kick off.\n
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        What are your thoughts on it?
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            If you had also read the article BTW you would have realized that **spoilers**: it’s not about source code availability.\n
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            Reading the whole thing you’d realize it’s a list of reasons why open source software hasn’t become popular with the wider public, and his proposed solution to this.\n
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            > If current licenses have the problem that big companies just ignore the terms set out in the license, I wouldn’t imagine making a new sort of license with different terms like “big companies have to pay to get the benefit of using Pots-Open Source software” is really going to work.\n
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            > they only use Linux because it’s free. Companies create hardware on Linux because it’s free\n
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            Companies use open source software because it’s the cheapest option. It’s all about margins.\n
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            > Nearly all of FOSS is funded by corporations whether you like it or not\n
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            Yes, and FOSS can get a lot more funding if they charged companies even a little bit.\n
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          +body: "Let’s not be nihilist here. It’s better to come up with solutions than to give up."
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            Well the question is, how would such a license look like? Or would it be a contract and not a license?\n
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            I guess I should ask a lawyer these questions, but I wanted to see what others here thought about the idea.
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            If you had also read the article BTW you would have realized that **spoilers**: it’s not about source code availability.\n
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            > If current licenses have the problem that big companies just ignore the terms set out in the license, I wouldn’t imagine making a new sort of license with different terms like “big companies have to pay to get the benefit of using Pots-Open Source software” is really going to work.\n
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            > they only use Linux because it’s free. Companies create hardware on Linux because it’s free\n
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            Well the question is, how would such a license look like? Or would it be a contract and not a license?\n
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            > If current licenses have the problem that big companies just ignore the terms set out in the license, I wouldn’t imagine making a new sort of license with different terms like “big companies have to pay to get the benefit of using Pots-Open Source software” is really going to work.\n
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            > If current licenses have the problem that big companies just ignore the terms set out in the license, I wouldn’t imagine making a new sort of license with different terms like “big companies have to pay to get the benefit of using Pots-Open Source software” is really going to work.\n
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            It’s more that they avoid the spirit of the licensing, not the terms (except Red Hat of course).\n
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            > In my opinion, the issue is that a cell phone is such a free-software-hostile environment that arguably GPL software shouldn’t “be allowed to” come into contact with it in any capacity if the spirit of the GPL were being upheld.\n
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            How are phones free-software-hostile? I know IOS is, but Android not really. There’s a list of open source Android distributions. Although not very good, they are viable.\n
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            > Actually, maybe making it a realistic possibility to drop in a recompiled replacement should be a part of the GPL. I remember people were talking about this decades ago\n
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            It does feel out of place how that isn’t in the GPL.
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            Well the question is, how would such a license look like? Or would it be a contract and not a license?\n
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            I guess I should ask a lawyer these questions, but I wanted to see what others here thought about the idea.
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      > they only use Linux because it’s free. Companies create hardware on Linux because it’s free\n
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      > Nearly all of FOSS is funded by corporations whether you like it or not\n
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            If you had also read the article BTW you would have realized that **spoilers**: it’s not about source code availability.\n
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            Reading the whole thing you’d realize it’s a list of reasons why open source software hasn’t become popular with the wider public, and his proposed solution to this.\n
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            > If current licenses have the problem that big companies just ignore the terms set out in the license, I wouldn’t imagine making a new sort of license with different terms like “big companies have to pay to get the benefit of using Pots-Open Source software” is really going to work.\n
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            It’s more that they avoid the spirit of the licensing, not the terms (except Red Hat of course).\n
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            > If current licenses have the problem that big companies just ignore the terms set out in the license, I wouldn’t imagine making a new sort of license with different terms like “big companies have to pay to get the benefit of using Pots-Open Source software” is really going to work.\n
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            > In my opinion, the issue is that a cell phone is such a free-software-hostile environment that arguably GPL software shouldn’t “be allowed to” come into contact with it in any capacity if the spirit of the GPL were being upheld.\n
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            How are phones free-software-hostile? I know IOS is, but Android not really. There’s a list of open source Android distributions. Although not very good, they are viable.\n
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            Well the question is, how would such a license look like? Or would it be a contract and not a license?\n
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            I guess I should ask a lawyer these questions, but I wanted to see what others here thought about the idea.
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            If you had also read the article BTW you would have realized that **spoilers**: it’s not about source code availability.\n
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            > If current licenses have the problem that big companies just ignore the terms set out in the license, I wouldn’t imagine making a new sort of license with different terms like “big companies have to pay to get the benefit of using Pots-Open Source software” is really going to work.\n
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            > In my opinion, the issue is that a cell phone is such a free-software-hostile environment that arguably GPL software shouldn’t “be allowed to” come into contact with it in any capacity if the spirit of the GPL were being upheld.\n
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            Well the question is, how would such a license look like? Or would it be a contract and not a license?\n
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        TLDR: Companies should be required to pay developers for any open source software they use.\n
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        > He imagines a simple yearly compliance process that gets companies all the rights they need to use Post-Open software. And they’d fund developers who would be encouraged to write software that’s usable by the common person, as opposed to technical experts.\n
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        It’s an interesting concept, but I don’t really see any feasible means to get this to kick off.\n
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            If you had also read the article BTW you would have realized that **spoilers**: it’s not about source code availability.\n
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            You saw the first few paragraphs about the Red Hat drama and didn’t read further.\n
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            Reading the whole thing you’d realize it’s a list of reasons why open source software hasn’t become popular with the wider public, and his proposed solution to this.\n
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            > If current licenses have the problem that big companies just ignore the terms set out in the license, I wouldn’t imagine making a new sort of license with different terms like “big companies have to pay to get the benefit of using Pots-Open Source software” is really going to work.\n
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            > In my opinion, the issue is that a cell phone is such a free-software-hostile environment that arguably GPL software shouldn’t “be allowed to” come into contact with it in any capacity if the spirit of the GPL were being upheld.\n
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            How are phones free-software-hostile? I know IOS is, but Android not really. There’s a list of open source Android distributions. Although not very good, they are viable.\n
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            Well the question is, how would such a license look like? Or would it be a contract and not a license?\n
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            I guess I should ask a lawyer these questions, but I wanted to see what others here thought about the idea.
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      > they only use Linux because it’s free. Companies create hardware on Linux because it’s free\n
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      > Nearly all of FOSS is funded by corporations whether you like it or not\n
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        TLDR: Companies should be required to pay developers for any open source software they use.\n
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        > He imagines a simple yearly compliance process that gets companies all the rights they need to use Post-Open software. And they’d fund developers who would be encouraged to write software that’s usable by the common person, as opposed to technical experts.\n
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        It’s an interesting concept, but I don’t really see any feasible means to get this to kick off.\n
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        What are your thoughts on it?
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            If you had also read the article BTW you would have realized that **spoilers**: it’s not about source code availability.\n
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            You saw the first few paragraphs about the Red Hat drama and didn’t read further.\n
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            Reading the whole thing you’d realize it’s a list of reasons why open source software hasn’t become popular with the wider public, and his proposed solution to this.\n
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            I just included the idea he is proposing, others can read the article to see his reasoning.
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          +body: "Yeah pretty much"
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            > If current licenses have the problem that big companies just ignore the terms set out in the license, I wouldn’t imagine making a new sort of license with different terms like “big companies have to pay to get the benefit of using Pots-Open Source software” is really going to work.\n
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            It’s more that they avoid the spirit of the licensing, not the terms (except Red Hat of course).\n
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            I suppose you can split this into two separate arguments:\n
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            > In my opinion, the issue is that a cell phone is such a free-software-hostile environment that arguably GPL software shouldn’t “be allowed to” come into contact with it in any capacity if the spirit of the GPL were being upheld.\n
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            How are phones free-software-hostile? I know IOS is, but Android not really. There’s a list of open source Android distributions. Although not very good, they are viable.\n
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            > Actually, maybe making it a realistic possibility to drop in a recompiled replacement should be a part of the GPL. I remember people were talking about this decades ago\n
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            It does feel out of place how that isn’t in the GPL.
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            > they only use Linux because it’s free. Companies create hardware on Linux because it’s free\n
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            Companies use open source software because it’s the cheapest option. It’s all about margins.\n
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            > Nearly all of FOSS is funded by corporations whether you like it or not\n
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            Yes, and FOSS can get a lot more funding if they charged companies even a little bit.\n
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            So as long as it’s cheaper to pay a fee to continue to use an open-source software than it is to hire a group of developers to produce and maintain the same thing, the idea is viable.
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            Well the question is, how would such a license look like? Or would it be a contract and not a license?\n
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            I guess I should ask a lawyer these questions, but I wanted to see what others here thought about the idea.
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          +body: "The fee could be really small but scale depending on factors like business size. Or there could be no fee outright for businesses smaller than a certain size."
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            > If current licenses have the problem that big companies just ignore the terms set out in the license, I wouldn’t imagine making a new sort of license with different terms like “big companies have to pay to get the benefit of using Pots-Open Source software” is really going to work.\n
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            > In my opinion, the issue is that a cell phone is such a free-software-hostile environment that arguably GPL software shouldn’t “be allowed to” come into contact with it in any capacity if the spirit of the GPL were being upheld.\n
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            How are phones free-software-hostile? I know IOS is, but Android not really. There’s a list of open source Android distributions. Although not very good, they are viable.\n
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            > they only use Linux because it’s free. Companies create hardware on Linux because it’s free\n
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            If you had also read the article BTW you would have realized that **spoilers**: it’s not about source code availability.\n
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            > If current licenses have the problem that big companies just ignore the terms set out in the license, I wouldn’t imagine making a new sort of license with different terms like “big companies have to pay to get the benefit of using Pots-Open Source software” is really going to work.\n
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            > In my opinion, the issue is that a cell phone is such a free-software-hostile environment that arguably GPL software shouldn’t “be allowed to” come into contact with it in any capacity if the spirit of the GPL were being upheld.\n
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            How are phones free-software-hostile? I know IOS is, but Android not really. There’s a list of open source Android distributions. Although not very good, they are viable.\n
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            > they only use Linux because it’s free. Companies create hardware on Linux because it’s free\n
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            Companies use open source software because it’s the cheapest option. It’s all about margins.\n
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            > Nearly all of FOSS is funded by corporations whether you like it or not\n
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            Yes, and FOSS can get a lot more funding if they charged companies even a little bit.\n
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            Well the question is, how would such a license look like? Or would it be a contract and not a license?\n
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            > If current licenses have the problem that big companies just ignore the terms set out in the license, I wouldn’t imagine making a new sort of license with different terms like “big companies have to pay to get the benefit of using Pots-Open Source software” is really going to work.\n
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            > In my opinion, the issue is that a cell phone is such a free-software-hostile environment that arguably GPL software shouldn’t “be allowed to” come into contact with it in any capacity if the spirit of the GPL were being upheld.\n
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            > they only use Linux because it’s free. Companies create hardware on Linux because it’s free\n
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            Well the question is, how would such a license look like? Or would it be a contract and not a license?\n
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            > If current licenses have the problem that big companies just ignore the terms set out in the license, I wouldn’t imagine making a new sort of license with different terms like “big companies have to pay to get the benefit of using Pots-Open Source software” is really going to work.\n
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            > they only use Linux because it’s free. Companies create hardware on Linux because it’s free\n
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            Well the question is, how would such a license look like? Or would it be a contract and not a license?\n
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            > If current licenses have the problem that big companies just ignore the terms set out in the license, I wouldn’t imagine making a new sort of license with different terms like “big companies have to pay to get the benefit of using Pots-Open Source software” is really going to work.\n
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            It’s more that they avoid the spirit of the licensing, not the terms (except Red Hat of course).\n
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            > In my opinion, the issue is that a cell phone is such a free-software-hostile environment that arguably GPL software shouldn’t “be allowed to” come into contact with it in any capacity if the spirit of the GPL were being upheld.\n
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            How are phones free-software-hostile? I know IOS is, but Android not really. There’s a list of open source Android distributions. Although not very good, they are viable.\n
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            > Actually, maybe making it a realistic possibility to drop in a recompiled replacement should be a part of the GPL. I remember people were talking about this decades ago\n
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            > they only use Linux because it’s free. Companies create hardware on Linux because it’s free\n
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            Companies use open source software because it’s the cheapest option. It’s all about margins.\n
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            > Nearly all of FOSS is funded by corporations whether you like it or not\n
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            Yes, and FOSS can get a lot more funding if they charged companies even a little bit.\n
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            Well the question is, how would such a license look like? Or would it be a contract and not a license?\n
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            > If current licenses have the problem that big companies just ignore the terms set out in the license, I wouldn’t imagine making a new sort of license with different terms like “big companies have to pay to get the benefit of using Pots-Open Source software” is really going to work.\n
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            > In my opinion, the issue is that a cell phone is such a free-software-hostile environment that arguably GPL software shouldn’t “be allowed to” come into contact with it in any capacity if the spirit of the GPL were being upheld.\n
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            How are phones free-software-hostile? I know IOS is, but Android not really. There’s a list of open source Android distributions. Although not very good, they are viable.\n
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            > they only use Linux because it’s free. Companies create hardware on Linux because it’s free\n
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        TLDR: Companies should be required to pay developers for any open source software they use.\n
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        > He imagines a simple yearly compliance process that gets companies all the rights they need to use Post-Open software. And they’d fund developers who would be encouraged to write software that’s usable by the common person, as opposed to technical experts.\n
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        It’s an interesting concept, but I don’t really see any feasible means to get this to kick off.\n
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            If you had also read the article BTW you would have realized that **spoilers**: it’s not about source code availability.\n
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            > If current licenses have the problem that big companies just ignore the terms set out in the license, I wouldn’t imagine making a new sort of license with different terms like “big companies have to pay to get the benefit of using Pots-Open Source software” is really going to work.\n
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            It’s more that they avoid the spirit of the licensing, not the terms (except Red Hat of course).\n
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            > In my opinion, the issue is that a cell phone is such a free-software-hostile environment that arguably GPL software shouldn’t “be allowed to” come into contact with it in any capacity if the spirit of the GPL were being upheld.\n
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            How are phones free-software-hostile? I know IOS is, but Android not really. There’s a list of open source Android distributions. Although not very good, they are viable.\n
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            > they only use Linux because it’s free. Companies create hardware on Linux because it’s free\n
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            Companies use open source software because it’s the cheapest option. It’s all about margins.\n
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            > Nearly all of FOSS is funded by corporations whether you like it or not\n
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      Well the question is, how would such a license look like? Or would it be a contract and not a license?\n
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            > If current licenses have the problem that big companies just ignore the terms set out in the license, I wouldn’t imagine making a new sort of license with different terms like “big companies have to pay to get the benefit of using Pots-Open Source software” is really going to work.\n
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            > In my opinion, the issue is that a cell phone is such a free-software-hostile environment that arguably GPL software shouldn’t “be allowed to” come into contact with it in any capacity if the spirit of the GPL were being upheld.\n
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            > they only use Linux because it’s free. Companies create hardware on Linux because it’s free\n
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        TLDR: Companies should be required to pay developers for any open source software they use.\n
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        > He imagines a simple yearly compliance process that gets companies all the rights they need to use Post-Open software. And they’d fund developers who would be encouraged to write software that’s usable by the common person, as opposed to technical experts.\n
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        It’s an interesting concept, but I don’t really see any feasible means to get this to kick off.\n
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            If you had also read the article BTW you would have realized that **spoilers**: it’s not about source code availability.\n
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            > If current licenses have the problem that big companies just ignore the terms set out in the license, I wouldn’t imagine making a new sort of license with different terms like “big companies have to pay to get the benefit of using Pots-Open Source software” is really going to work.\n
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            It’s more that they avoid the spirit of the licensing, not the terms (except Red Hat of course).\n
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            I suppose you can split this into two separate arguments:\n
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            > In my opinion, the issue is that a cell phone is such a free-software-hostile environment that arguably GPL software shouldn’t “be allowed to” come into contact with it in any capacity if the spirit of the GPL were being upheld.\n
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            How are phones free-software-hostile? I know IOS is, but Android not really. There’s a list of open source Android distributions. Although not very good, they are viable.\n
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            > they only use Linux because it’s free. Companies create hardware on Linux because it’s free\n
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            Companies use open source software because it’s the cheapest option. It’s all about margins.\n
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            > Nearly all of FOSS is funded by corporations whether you like it or not\n
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            > If current licenses have the problem that big companies just ignore the terms set out in the license, I wouldn’t imagine making a new sort of license with different terms like “big companies have to pay to get the benefit of using Pots-Open Source software” is really going to work.\n
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            > In my opinion, the issue is that a cell phone is such a free-software-hostile environment that arguably GPL software shouldn’t “be allowed to” come into contact with it in any capacity if the spirit of the GPL were being upheld.\n
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            > they only use Linux because it’s free. Companies create hardware on Linux because it’s free\n
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            > If current licenses have the problem that big companies just ignore the terms set out in the license, I wouldn’t imagine making a new sort of license with different terms like “big companies have to pay to get the benefit of using Pots-Open Source software” is really going to work.\n
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            > In my opinion, the issue is that a cell phone is such a free-software-hostile environment that arguably GPL software shouldn’t “be allowed to” come into contact with it in any capacity if the spirit of the GPL were being upheld.\n
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            > If current licenses have the problem that big companies just ignore the terms set out in the license, I wouldn’t imagine making a new sort of license with different terms like “big companies have to pay to get the benefit of using Pots-Open Source software” is really going to work.\n
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            > In my opinion, the issue is that a cell phone is such a free-software-hostile environment that arguably GPL software shouldn’t “be allowed to” come into contact with it in any capacity if the spirit of the GPL were being upheld.\n
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            How are phones free-software-hostile? I know IOS is, but Android not really. There’s a list of open source Android distributions. Although not very good, they are viable.\n
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            > they only use Linux because it’s free. Companies create hardware on Linux because it’s free\n
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            If you had also read the article BTW you would have realized that **spoilers**: it’s not about source code availability.\n
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            Reading the whole thing you’d realize it’s a list of reasons why open source software hasn’t become popular with the wider public, and his proposed solution to this.\n
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            > If current licenses have the problem that big companies just ignore the terms set out in the license, I wouldn’t imagine making a new sort of license with different terms like “big companies have to pay to get the benefit of using Pots-Open Source software” is really going to work.\n
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            It’s more that they avoid the spirit of the licensing, not the terms (except Red Hat of course).\n
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            > In my opinion, the issue is that a cell phone is such a free-software-hostile environment that arguably GPL software shouldn’t “be allowed to” come into contact with it in any capacity if the spirit of the GPL were being upheld.\n
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            How are phones free-software-hostile? I know IOS is, but Android not really. There’s a list of open source Android distributions. Although not very good, they are viable.\n
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            > Actually, maybe making it a realistic possibility to drop in a recompiled replacement should be a part of the GPL. I remember people were talking about this decades ago\n
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            It does feel out of place how that isn’t in the GPL.
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            > they only use Linux because it’s free. Companies create hardware on Linux because it’s free\n
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            Companies use open source software because it’s the cheapest option. It’s all about margins.\n
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            > Nearly all of FOSS is funded by corporations whether you like it or not\n
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            Yes, and FOSS can get a lot more funding if they charged companies even a little bit.\n
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            Well the question is, how would such a license look like? Or would it be a contract and not a license?\n
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            > If current licenses have the problem that big companies just ignore the terms set out in the license, I wouldn’t imagine making a new sort of license with different terms like “big companies have to pay to get the benefit of using Pots-Open Source software” is really going to work.\n
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            > In my opinion, the issue is that a cell phone is such a free-software-hostile environment that arguably GPL software shouldn’t “be allowed to” come into contact with it in any capacity if the spirit of the GPL were being upheld.\n
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            How are phones free-software-hostile? I know IOS is, but Android not really. There’s a list of open source Android distributions. Although not very good, they are viable.\n
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            > they only use Linux because it’s free. Companies create hardware on Linux because it’s free\n
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            > Nearly all of FOSS is funded by corporations whether you like it or not\n
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            Well the question is, how would such a license look like? Or would it be a contract and not a license?\n
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        TLDR: Companies should be required to pay developers for any open source software they use.\n
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            If you had also read the article BTW you would have realized that **spoilers**: it’s not about source code availability.\n
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            > If current licenses have the problem that big companies just ignore the terms set out in the license, I wouldn’t imagine making a new sort of license with different terms like “big companies have to pay to get the benefit of using Pots-Open Source software” is really going to work.\n
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            > In my opinion, the issue is that a cell phone is such a free-software-hostile environment that arguably GPL software shouldn’t “be allowed to” come into contact with it in any capacity if the spirit of the GPL were being upheld.\n
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            How are phones free-software-hostile? I know IOS is, but Android not really. There’s a list of open source Android distributions. Although not very good, they are viable.\n
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            > they only use Linux because it’s free. Companies create hardware on Linux because it’s free\n
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            Well the question is, how would such a license look like? Or would it be a contract and not a license?\n
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        TLDR: Companies should be required to pay developers for any open source software they use.\n
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        > He imagines a simple yearly compliance process that gets companies all the rights they need to use Post-Open software. And they’d fund developers who would be encouraged to write software that’s usable by the common person, as opposed to technical experts.\n
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        It’s an interesting concept, but I don’t really see any feasible means to get this to kick off.\n
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            If you had also read the article BTW you would have realized that **spoilers**: it’s not about source code availability.\n
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            > If current licenses have the problem that big companies just ignore the terms set out in the license, I wouldn’t imagine making a new sort of license with different terms like “big companies have to pay to get the benefit of using Pots-Open Source software” is really going to work.\n
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            It’s more that they avoid the spirit of the licensing, not the terms (except Red Hat of course).\n
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            > In my opinion, the issue is that a cell phone is such a free-software-hostile environment that arguably GPL software shouldn’t “be allowed to” come into contact with it in any capacity if the spirit of the GPL were being upheld.\n
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            How are phones free-software-hostile? I know IOS is, but Android not really. There’s a list of open source Android distributions. Although not very good, they are viable.\n
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            > they only use Linux because it’s free. Companies create hardware on Linux because it’s free\n
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            Companies use open source software because it’s the cheapest option. It’s all about margins.\n
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            > Nearly all of FOSS is funded by corporations whether you like it or not\n
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            Well the question is, how would such a license look like? Or would it be a contract and not a license?\n
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            > If current licenses have the problem that big companies just ignore the terms set out in the license, I wouldn’t imagine making a new sort of license with different terms like “big companies have to pay to get the benefit of using Pots-Open Source software” is really going to work.\n
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            > In my opinion, the issue is that a cell phone is such a free-software-hostile environment that arguably GPL software shouldn’t “be allowed to” come into contact with it in any capacity if the spirit of the GPL were being upheld.\n
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            How are phones free-software-hostile? I know IOS is, but Android not really. There’s a list of open source Android distributions. Although not very good, they are viable.\n
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            > they only use Linux because it’s free. Companies create hardware on Linux because it’s free\n
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            Companies use open source software because it’s the cheapest option. It’s all about margins.\n
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            > Nearly all of FOSS is funded by corporations whether you like it or not\n
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            Well the question is, how would such a license look like? Or would it be a contract and not a license?\n
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      - I kept asking for supernatural things to happen, or to win something like a small school lottery. The fact nothing happened, let alone a clear punishment, did disappoint me.\n
      - When I discovered that Santa was fake was when my faith started to really crumble.\n
      - Sometimes listening to the Pastors speak gives me a nice sensation on the back of my neck. I later discovered ASMR. I sometimes still listen to old religious people speak, but I’m not actually paying attention.\n
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      Here’s the real reasons why:\n
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      - Finding too many things I disagreed with or did not understand from the text.\n
      - Having a religious preacher fail to explain them to me.\n
      - Discovering other religions exist.\n
      - Learning what a cult is and making 1:1 comparisons to most religious entities.\n
      - Discovering how shitty the real world is.\n
      - Science (like, all of it)\n
      - History (also, all of it)\n
      - Discovering philosophy
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  "label" => "Show top bar"
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_GENERAL_TOPBAR"
]
Attributes 
[]
Component 
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#20842
  +label: "Show top bar"
  +help: ""
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_GENERAL_TOPBAR"
  +defaultValue: false
  +reloadRequired: true
}
settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent 18.0 MiB 0.16 ms
Input props 
[
  "label" => "Turbo mode (experimental)"
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_GENERAL_TURBO"
]
Attributes 
[]
Component 
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#20898
  +label: "Turbo mode (experimental)"
  +help: ""
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_GENERAL_TURBO"
  +defaultValue: false
  +reloadRequired: true
}
user_settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\UserSettingsRowSwitchComponent 18.0 MiB 0.28 ms
Input props 
[
  "label" => "Mark new comments"
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_MARK_NEW_COMMENTS"
]
Attributes 
[]
Component 
App\Twig\Components\UserSettingsRowSwitchComponent {#20956
  +label: "Mark new comments"
  +help: ""
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_MARK_NEW_COMMENTS"
  +defaultValue: false
  +reloadRequired: true
}
settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent 18.0 MiB 0.14 ms
Input props 
[
  "label" => "Show "Support Us" block"
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_GENERAL_SUPPORT_US_BLOCK"
  "defaultValue" => true
]
Attributes 
[]
Component 
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#21019
  +label: "Show "Support Us" block"
  +help: ""
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_GENERAL_SUPPORT_US_BLOCK"
  +defaultValue: true
  +reloadRequired: true
}
user_settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\UserSettingsRowSwitchComponent 18.0 MiB 0.14 ms
Input props 
[
  "label" => "Show subscribed users"
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_SUB_CHANNEL_USERS"
]
Attributes 
[]
Component 
App\Twig\Components\UserSettingsRowSwitchComponent {#21077
  +label: "Show subscribed users"
  +help: ""
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_SUB_CHANNEL_USERS"
  +defaultValue: false
  +reloadRequired: true
}
user_settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\UserSettingsRowSwitchComponent 18.0 MiB 0.14 ms
Input props 
[
  "label" => "Show subscribed magazines"
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_SUB_CHANNEL_MAGAZINES"
]
Attributes 
[]
Component 
App\Twig\Components\UserSettingsRowSwitchComponent {#21133
  +label: "Show subscribed magazines"
  +help: ""
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_SUB_CHANNEL_MAGAZINES"
  +defaultValue: false
  +reloadRequired: true
}
user_settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\UserSettingsRowSwitchComponent 18.0 MiB 0.14 ms
Input props 
[
  "label" => "Show subscribed domains"
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_SUB_CHANNEL_DOMAINS"
]
Attributes 
[]
Component 
App\Twig\Components\UserSettingsRowSwitchComponent {#21189
  +label: "Show subscribed domains"
  +help: ""
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_SUB_CHANNEL_DOMAINS"
  +defaultValue: false
  +reloadRequired: true
}
settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent 18.0 MiB 0.12 ms
Input props 
[
  "label" => "Auto media preview"
  "help" => "Automatically expand media previews."
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_ENTRIES_SHOW_PREVIEW"
]
Attributes 
[]
Component 
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#21245
  +label: "Auto media preview"
  +help: "Automatically expand media previews."
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_ENTRIES_SHOW_PREVIEW"
  +defaultValue: false
  +reloadRequired: true
}
settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent 18.0 MiB 0.13 ms
Input props 
[
  "label" => "Compact view"
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_ENTRIES_COMPACT"
]
Attributes 
[]
Component 
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#21301
  +label: "Compact view"
  +help: ""
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_ENTRIES_COMPACT"
  +defaultValue: false
  +reloadRequired: true
}
settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent 18.0 MiB 0.14 ms
Input props 
[
  "label" => "Show users’ avatars"
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_ENTRIES_SHOW_USERS_AVATARS"
]
Attributes 
[]
Component 
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#21357
  +label: "Show users’ avatars"
  +help: ""
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_ENTRIES_SHOW_USERS_AVATARS"
  +defaultValue: false
  +reloadRequired: true
}
settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent 18.0 MiB 0.14 ms
Input props 
[
  "label" => "Show magazines’ icons"
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_ENTRIES_SHOW_MAGAZINES_ICONS"
]
Attributes 
[]
Component 
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#21413
  +label: "Show magazines’ icons"
  +help: ""
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_ENTRIES_SHOW_MAGAZINES_ICONS"
  +defaultValue: false
  +reloadRequired: true
}
settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent 18.0 MiB 19.85 ms
Input props 
[
  "label" => "Show thumbnails"
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_ENTRIES_SHOW_THUMBNAILS"
  "defaultValue" => true
]
Attributes 
[]
Component 
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#21469
  +label: "Show thumbnails"
  +help: ""
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_ENTRIES_SHOW_THUMBNAILS"
  +defaultValue: true
  +reloadRequired: true
}
settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent 18.0 MiB 0.13 ms
Input props 
[
  "label" => "Auto media preview"
  "help" => "Automatically expand media previews."
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_POSTS_SHOW_PREVIEW"
]
Attributes 
[]
Component 
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#15155
  +label: "Auto media preview"
  +help: "Automatically expand media previews."
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_POSTS_SHOW_PREVIEW"
  +defaultValue: false
  +reloadRequired: true
}
settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent 18.0 MiB 0.18 ms
Input props 
[
  "label" => "Show users’ avatars"
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_POSTS_SHOW_USERS_AVATARS"
  "defaultValue" => true
]
Attributes 
[]
Component 
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#18770
  +label: "Show users’ avatars"
  +help: ""
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_POSTS_SHOW_USERS_AVATARS"
  +defaultValue: true
  +reloadRequired: true
}
settings_row_enum App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowEnumComponent 18.0 MiB 0.16 ms
Input props 
[
  "label" => "Comment reply position"
  "help" => "Display the comment reply form either at the top or bottom of the page. When 'infinite scroll' is enabled the position will always appear at the top."
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_COMMENTS_REPLY_POSITION"
  "values" => [
    [
      "name" => "top"
      "value" => "TOP"
    ]
    [
      "name" => "bottom"
      "value" => "BOTTOM"
    ]
  ]
  "defaultValue" => "TOP"
]
Attributes 
[]
Component 
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowEnumComponent {#20016
  +label: "Comment reply position"
  +help: "Display the comment reply form either at the top or bottom of the page. When 'infinite scroll' is enabled the position will always appear at the top."
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_COMMENTS_REPLY_POSITION"
  +values: [
    [
      "name" => "top"
      "value" => "TOP"
    ]
    [
      "name" => "bottom"
      "value" => "BOTTOM"
    ]
  ]
  +defaultValue: "TOP"
  +reloadRequired: true
}
settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent 18.0 MiB 0.15 ms
Input props 
[
  "label" => "Show Comment Avatars"
  "help" => "Display/hide user avatars when viewing comments on a single thread or post."
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_COMMENTS_SHOW_USER_AVATAR"
  "defaultValue" => true
]
Attributes 
[]
Component 
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#15132
  +label: "Show Comment Avatars"
  +help: "Display/hide user avatars when viewing comments on a single thread or post."
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_COMMENTS_SHOW_USER_AVATAR"
  +defaultValue: true
  +reloadRequired: true
}
date App\Twig\Components\DateComponent 18.0 MiB 0.15 ms
Input props 
[
  "date" => DateTimeImmutable @1702792734 {#268
    date: 2023-12-17 06:58:54.0 +01:00
  }
]
Attributes 
[]
Component 
App\Twig\Components\DateComponent {#18007
  +date: DateTimeImmutable @1702792734 {#268
    date: 2023-12-17 06:58:54.0 +01:00
  }
}
related_magazines App\Twig\Components\RelatedMagazinesComponent 20.0 MiB 2.00 ms
Input props 
[
  "magazine" => null
  "tag" => null
]
Attributes 
[]
Component 
App\Twig\Components\RelatedMagazinesComponent {#21112
  +limit: 4
  +tag: null
  +magazine: null
  +type: "random"
  +title: "random_magazines"
  +refreshedRandom: false
  -repository: App\Repository\MagazineRepository {#1370 …}
  -cache: Symfony\Component\Cache\Adapter\TraceableTagAwareAdapter {#600 …}
  -twig: Twig\Environment {#1252 …}
  -requestStack: Symfony\Component\HttpFoundation\RequestStack {#1328 …}
}
active_users App\Twig\Components\ActiveUsersComponent 20.0 MiB 0.20 ms
Input props 
[
  "magazine" => null
]
Attributes 
[]
Component 
App\Twig\Components\ActiveUsersComponent {#21553
  +magazine: null
  -userRepository: App\Repository\UserRepository {#603 …}
  -cache: Symfony\Component\Cache\Adapter\TraceableTagAwareAdapter {#600 …}
  -twig: Twig\Environment {#1252 …}
  -requestStack: Symfony\Component\HttpFoundation\RequestStack {#1328 …}
}
related_categories App\Twig\Components\RelatedCategoriesComponent 20.0 MiB 1.25 ms
Input props 
[
  "magazine" => null
  "tag" => null
]
Attributes 
[]
Component 
App\Twig\Components\RelatedCategoriesComponent {#21612
  +limit: 4
  +tag: null
  +magazine: null
  +type: "random"
  +title: "random_categories"
  +refreshedRandom: false
  -repository: App\Repository\CategoryRepository {#21613 …}
  -cache: Symfony\Component\Cache\Adapter\TraceableTagAwareAdapter {#600 …}
  -twig: Twig\Environment {#1252 …}
  -requestStack: Symfony\Component\HttpFoundation\RequestStack {#1328 …}
}
related_posts App\Twig\Components\RelatedPostsComponent 20.0 MiB 1.29 ms
Input props 
[
  "magazine" => null
  "tag" => null
]
Attributes 
[]
Component 
App\Twig\Components\RelatedPostsComponent {#21682
  +limit: 4
  +tag: null
  +magazine: null
  +type: "random"
  +post: null
  +title: "random_posts"
  +refreshedRandom: false
  -repository: App\Repository\PostRepository {#1764 …}
  -cache: Symfony\Component\Cache\Adapter\TraceableTagAwareAdapter {#600 …}
  -twig: Twig\Environment {#1252 …}
  -requestStack: Symfony\Component\HttpFoundation\RequestStack {#1328 …}
  -mentionManager: App\Service\MentionManager {#1504 …}
}
related_entries App\Twig\Components\RelatedEntriesComponent 20.0 MiB 1.29 ms
Input props 
[
  "magazine" => null
  "tag" => null
]
Attributes 
[]
Component 
App\Twig\Components\RelatedEntriesComponent {#21751
  +limit: 4
  +tag: null
  +magazine: null
  +type: "random"
  +entry: null
  +title: "random_entries"
  +refreshedRandom: false
  -repository: App\Repository\EntryRepository {#1763 …}
  -cache: Symfony\Component\Cache\Adapter\TraceableTagAwareAdapter {#600 …}
  -twig: Twig\Environment {#1252 …}
  -requestStack: Symfony\Component\HttpFoundation\RequestStack {#1328 …}
  -mentionManager: App\Service\MentionManager {#1504 …}
}
support_us_block App\Twig\Components\SupportUsBlock 20.0 MiB 0.19 ms
Input props 
[]
Attributes 
[]
Component 
App\Twig\Components\SupportUsBlock {#21820
  +subject: ? App\Entity\Contracts\VotableInterface
  +url: ? string
  -twig: Twig\Environment {#1252 …}
  -cache: Symfony\Component\Cache\Adapter\TraceableTagAwareAdapter {#600 …}
  -requestStack: Symfony\Component\HttpFoundation\RequestStack {#1328 …}
  -partnerBlockRepository: App\Repository\PartnerBlockRepository {#21821 …}
}
featured_magazines App\Twig\Components\FeaturedMagazinesComponent 20.0 MiB 0.78 ms
Input props 
[
  "magazine" => null
]
Attributes 
[]
Component 
App\Twig\Components\FeaturedMagazinesComponent {#21913
  +magazine: null
  -twig: Twig\Environment {#1252 …}
  -repository: App\Repository\MagazineRepository {#1370 …}
}