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Components

21 Twig Components
178 Render Count
299 ms Render Time
16.0 MiB Memory Usage

Components

Name Metadata Render Count Render Time
date
"App\Twig\Components\DateComponent"
components/date.html.twig
22 3.75ms
user_inline
"App\Twig\Components\UserInlineComponent"
components/user_inline.html.twig
21 43.78ms
date_edited
"App\Twig\Components\DateEditedComponent"
components/date_edited.html.twig
21 2.57ms
vote
"App\Twig\Components\VoteComponent"
components/vote.html.twig
21 9.60ms
boost
"App\Twig\Components\BoostComponent"
components/boost.html.twig
21 24.38ms
settings_row_switch
"App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent"
components/_settings_row_switch.html.twig
15 2.36ms
entry_comment
"App\Twig\Components\EntryCommentComponent"
components/entry_comment.html.twig
14 107.16ms
user_avatar
"App\Twig\Components\UserAvatarComponent"
components/user_avatar.html.twig
14 5.72ms
entry
"App\Twig\Components\EntryComponent"
components/_cached.html.twig
7 143.20ms
magazine_inline
"App\Twig\Components\MagazineInlineComponent"
components/magazine_inline.html.twig
7 1.99ms
user_settings_row_switch
"App\Twig\Components\UserSettingsRowSwitchComponent"
components/_user_settings_row_switch.html.twig
4 0.81ms
settings_row_enum
"App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowEnumComponent"
components/_settings_row_enum.html.twig
2 0.42ms
user_box
"App\Twig\Components\UserBoxComponent"
components/user_box.html.twig
1 1.71ms
user_actions
"App\Twig\Components\UserActionsComponent"
components/user_actions.html.twig
1 1.10ms
related_magazines
"App\Twig\Components\RelatedMagazinesComponent"
components/_cached.html.twig
1 4.92ms
active_users
"App\Twig\Components\ActiveUsersComponent"
components/_cached.html.twig
1 3.31ms
related_categories
"App\Twig\Components\RelatedCategoriesComponent"
components/_cached.html.twig
1 8.44ms
related_posts
"App\Twig\Components\RelatedPostsComponent"
components/_cached.html.twig
1 6.57ms
related_entries
"App\Twig\Components\RelatedEntriesComponent"
components/_cached.html.twig
1 12.78ms
support_us_block
"App\Twig\Components\SupportUsBlock"
components/_cached.html.twig
1 0.65ms
featured_magazines
"App\Twig\Components\FeaturedMagazinesComponent"
components/_cached.html.twig
1 6.74ms

Render calls

user_box App\Twig\Components\UserBoxComponent 12.0 MiB 1.71 ms
Input props
[
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  "stretchedLink" => false
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\UserBoxComponent {#2650
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    +isBot: false
    +spamProtection: true
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    +moderatorRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#233 …}
    +entries: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#191 …}
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    +entryCommentVotes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#106 …}
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}
user_actions App\Twig\Components\UserActionsComponent 12.0 MiB 1.10 ms
Input props
[
  "user" => App\Entity\User {#261
    +avatar: null
    +cover: null
    +email: "Corngood@lemmy.ml"
    +username: "@Corngood@lemmy.ml"
    +roles: []
    +followersCount: 0
    +homepage: "front"
    +about: null
    +lastActive: DateTime @1723527320 {#269
      date: 2024-08-13 07:35:20.0 +02:00
    }
    +markedForDeletionAt: null
    +fields: null
    +oauthGithubId: null
    +oauthGoogleId: null
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    +showSubscribedMagazines: true
    +showSubscribedDomains: true
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    +showProfileFollowings: true
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]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\UserActionsComponent {#2832
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entry App\Twig\Components\EntryComponent 12.0 MiB 40.31 ms
Input props
[
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        A place to share alternatives to popular online services that can be self-hosted without giving up privacy or locking you into a service you don’t control.\n
        \n
        Rules:\n
        \n
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      I picked up a laptop a couple of months ago for the purpose of setting up Linux on (I chose NixOS for stability) to go with my existing desktop. It’s an *Infinity E15-5A165-BM* (Infinity being an Australian local manufacturer of gaming laptops) which features a Ryzen 5 6600H CPU and a GeForce 1650 GTX.\n
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      - I managed to find [this lore.kernel thread](https://lore.kernel.org/regressions/20230809085526.84913-1-hdegoede@redhat.com/T/) ‪‬ in which I believe my issue is discussed. This tells me that it’s known and being worked on and that I can maybe wait for a future kernel version, and that theoretically I *might* just be able to patch the kernel myself, if I learn how to do that and use the right settings?\n
      \n
      I’ve done a couple of commands and pulled some logs from the laptop, and detailed info - lshw, lspci, dmidecode, acpidump, etc - can be found in [this folder](https://files.neurario.com/.InfinityLaptop-Debugging/) on my web server.\n
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      To my understanding my options are to use the older kernel for now and figure out why the display manager is not working, or learn to patch the current kernel and hope that that works. What’s my best option, and is there anything else I might be missing ?
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          Could you do:\n
          \n
          > Please share the output of `grep -v /sys/class/dmi/id/*` as a normal user (not root)\n
          \n
          It looks like all the patches from that thread are in linux 6.6, so your board may still need quirks added.\n
          \n
          Once you know the board name you try something like this:\n
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          </span><span style="color:#323232;">--- a/drivers/acpi/resource.c\n
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          </span><span style="color:#323232;"> \t\t\tDMI_MATCH(DMI_BOARD_NAME, "GM6BG0Q"),\n
          </span><span style="color:#323232;"> \t\t},\n
          </span><span style="color:#323232;"> \t},\n
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          </span><span style="color:#323232;">+\t},\n
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          </span><span style="color:#323232;"> };\n
          </span><span style="color:#323232;">'';\n
          </span><span style="color:#323232;">  }];\n
          </span>\n
          ```\n
          \n
          Just be careful that the indentation of the patch part doesn’t get changed.
          """
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          Nice. Also it occurred to me that there might be a way to set that quirk through the kernel command line instead of having to compile a patched kernel. I haven’t had a chance to look it up though.\n
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          Edit: I couldn’t find anything obvious. This behaviour is buried pretty deep.
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          That’s great. If you get a chance, would you be able to test this patch?\n
          \n
          ```\n
          \n
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          </span><span style="color:#323232;"> };\n
          </span><span style="color:#323232;"> \n
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          ```\n
          \n
          I’d like to try to get it upstream, and that seems like the sanest way to do it.\n
          \n
          You might need to be on linux 6.5+ for this patch to apply, and if you could verify that it’s still broken on 6.6 without the patch, that would be nice.
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          Nice. Also it occurred to me that there might be a way to set that quirk through the kernel command line instead of having to compile a patched kernel. I haven’t had a chance to look it up though.\n
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          I’d like to try to get it upstream, and that seems like the sanest way to do it.\n
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          You might need to be on linux 6.5+ for this patch to apply, and if you could verify that it’s still broken on 6.6 without the patch, that would be nice.
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          Could you do:\n
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          \n
          It looks like all the patches from that thread are in linux 6.6, so your board may still need quirks added.\n
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          </span><span style="color:#323232;">  }];\n
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          ```\n
          \n
          Just be careful that the indentation of the patch part doesn’t get changed.
          """
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          Nice. Also it occurred to me that there might be a way to set that quirk through the kernel command line instead of having to compile a patched kernel. I haven’t had a chance to look it up though.\n
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          Edit: I couldn’t find anything obvious. This behaviour is buried pretty deep.
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          That’s great. If you get a chance, would you be able to test this patch?\n
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          ```\n
          \n
          I’d like to try to get it upstream, and that seems like the sanest way to do it.\n
          \n
          You might need to be on linux 6.5+ for this patch to apply, and if you could verify that it’s still broken on 6.6 without the patch, that would be nice.
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          [git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/…/commit/?h=b…](https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/rafael/linux-pm.git/commit/?h=bleeding-edge&id=e2605d4039a42a03000856b3229932455717b48b)\n
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      I picked up a laptop a couple of months ago for the purpose of setting up Linux on (I chose NixOS for stability) to go with my existing desktop. It’s an *Infinity E15-5A165-BM* (Infinity being an Australian local manufacturer of gaming laptops) which features a Ryzen 5 6600H CPU and a GeForce 1650 GTX.\n
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      - I managed to find [this lore.kernel thread](https://lore.kernel.org/regressions/20230809085526.84913-1-hdegoede@redhat.com/T/) ‪‬ in which I believe my issue is discussed. This tells me that it’s known and being worked on and that I can maybe wait for a future kernel version, and that theoretically I *might* just be able to patch the kernel myself, if I learn how to do that and use the right settings?\n
      \n
      I’ve done a couple of commands and pulled some logs from the laptop, and detailed info - lshw, lspci, dmidecode, acpidump, etc - can be found in [this folder](https://files.neurario.com/.InfinityLaptop-Debugging/) on my web server.\n
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      To my understanding my options are to use the older kernel for now and figure out why the display manager is not working, or learn to patch the current kernel and hope that that works. What’s my best option, and is there anything else I might be missing ?
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          Could you do:\n
          \n
          > Please share the output of `grep -v /sys/class/dmi/id/*` as a normal user (not root)\n
          \n
          It looks like all the patches from that thread are in linux 6.6, so your board may still need quirks added.\n
          \n
          Once you know the board name you try something like this:\n
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          </span><span style="color:#323232;"> \t\t},\n
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          </span><span style="color:#323232;"> };\n
          </span><span style="color:#323232;">'';\n
          </span><span style="color:#323232;">  }];\n
          </span>\n
          ```\n
          \n
          Just be careful that the indentation of the patch part doesn’t get changed.
          """
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          Nice. Also it occurred to me that there might be a way to set that quirk through the kernel command line instead of having to compile a patched kernel. I haven’t had a chance to look it up though.\n
          \n
          Edit: I couldn’t find anything obvious. This behaviour is buried pretty deep.
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          That’s great. If you get a chance, would you be able to test this patch?\n
          \n
          ```\n
          \n
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          </span><span style="color:#323232;"> };\n
          </span><span style="color:#323232;"> \n
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          ```\n
          \n
          I’d like to try to get it upstream, and that seems like the sanest way to do it.\n
          \n
          You might need to be on linux 6.5+ for this patch to apply, and if you could verify that it’s still broken on 6.6 without the patch, that would be nice.
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          > Please share the output of `grep -v /sys/class/dmi/id/*` as a normal user (not root)\n
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          It looks like all the patches from that thread are in linux 6.6, so your board may still need quirks added.\n
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          Nice. Also it occurred to me that there might be a way to set that quirk through the kernel command line instead of having to compile a patched kernel. I haven’t had a chance to look it up though.\n
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          That’s great. If you get a chance, would you be able to test this patch?\n
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          I’d like to try to get it upstream, and that seems like the sanest way to do it.\n
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          You might need to be on linux 6.5+ for this patch to apply, and if you could verify that it’s still broken on 6.6 without the patch, that would be nice.
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      I picked up a laptop a couple of months ago for the purpose of setting up Linux on (I chose NixOS for stability) to go with my existing desktop. It’s an *Infinity E15-5A165-BM* (Infinity being an Australian local manufacturer of gaming laptops) which features a Ryzen 5 6600H CPU and a GeForce 1650 GTX.\n
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      The keyboard uses a generic driver (i8042), which works great on Windows and when booting (including Grub/systemd-boot). However, once booted, I’ve found that the keyboard no longer responds to input - and in fact no longer shows up as an input device. Now, I’ve done a fair bit of debugging so far (for someone who’s not had to patch anything manually but knows how to do a proper search) and I’ve worked out the following:\n
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      - The latest available kernel in which the keyboard is recognised is 5.10 LTS - but setting this as the kernel to use in NixOS results in me no longer being able to boot into a graphical interface.\n
      - I managed to find [this lore.kernel thread](https://lore.kernel.org/regressions/20230809085526.84913-1-hdegoede@redhat.com/T/) ‪‬ in which I believe my issue is discussed. This tells me that it’s known and being worked on and that I can maybe wait for a future kernel version, and that theoretically I *might* just be able to patch the kernel myself, if I learn how to do that and use the right settings?\n
      \n
      I’ve done a couple of commands and pulled some logs from the laptop, and detailed info - lshw, lspci, dmidecode, acpidump, etc - can be found in [this folder](https://files.neurario.com/.InfinityLaptop-Debugging/) on my web server.\n
      \n
      To my understanding my options are to use the older kernel for now and figure out why the display manager is not working, or learn to patch the current kernel and hope that that works. What’s my best option, and is there anything else I might be missing ?
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          Could you do:\n
          \n
          > Please share the output of `grep -v /sys/class/dmi/id/*` as a normal user (not root)\n
          \n
          It looks like all the patches from that thread are in linux 6.6, so your board may still need quirks added.\n
          \n
          Once you know the board name you try something like this:\n
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          </span><span style="color:#323232;"> \t\t\tDMI_MATCH(DMI_BOARD_NAME, "GM6BG0Q"),\n
          </span><span style="color:#323232;"> \t\t},\n
          </span><span style="color:#323232;"> \t},\n
          </span><span style="color:#323232;">+\t{\n
          </span><span style="color:#323232;">+\t\t/* [COMPUTER DESCRIPTION] */\n
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          </span><span style="color:#323232;"> };\n
          </span><span style="color:#323232;">'';\n
          </span><span style="color:#323232;">  }];\n
          </span>\n
          ```\n
          \n
          Just be careful that the indentation of the patch part doesn’t get changed.
          """
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          Nice. Also it occurred to me that there might be a way to set that quirk through the kernel command line instead of having to compile a patched kernel. I haven’t had a chance to look it up though.\n
          \n
          Edit: I couldn’t find anything obvious. This behaviour is buried pretty deep.
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          That’s great. If you get a chance, would you be able to test this patch?\n
          \n
          ```\n
          \n
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          </span><span style="color:#323232;"> \n
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          ```\n
          \n
          I’d like to try to get it upstream, and that seems like the sanest way to do it.\n
          \n
          You might need to be on linux 6.5+ for this patch to apply, and if you could verify that it’s still broken on 6.6 without the patch, that would be nice.
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          [git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/…/commit/?h=b…](https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/rafael/linux-pm.git/commit/?h=bleeding-edge&id=e2605d4039a42a03000856b3229932455717b48b)\n
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            Nice. Also it occurred to me that there might be a way to set that quirk through the kernel command line instead of having to compile a patched kernel. I haven’t had a chance to look it up though.\n
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            That’s great. If you get a chance, would you be able to test this patch?\n
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            ```\n
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            I’d like to try to get it upstream, and that seems like the sanest way to do it.\n
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            You might need to be on linux 6.5+ for this patch to apply, and if you could verify that it’s still broken on 6.6 without the patch, that would be nice.
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        I picked up a laptop a couple of months ago for the purpose of setting up Linux on (I chose NixOS for stability) to go with my existing desktop. It’s an *Infinity E15-5A165-BM* (Infinity being an Australian local manufacturer of gaming laptops) which features a Ryzen 5 6600H CPU and a GeForce 1650 GTX.\n
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        The keyboard uses a generic driver (i8042), which works great on Windows and when booting (including Grub/systemd-boot). However, once booted, I’ve found that the keyboard no longer responds to input - and in fact no longer shows up as an input device. Now, I’ve done a fair bit of debugging so far (for someone who’s not had to patch anything manually but knows how to do a proper search) and I’ve worked out the following:\n
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        - I managed to find [this lore.kernel thread](https://lore.kernel.org/regressions/20230809085526.84913-1-hdegoede@redhat.com/T/) ‪‬ in which I believe my issue is discussed. This tells me that it’s known and being worked on and that I can maybe wait for a future kernel version, and that theoretically I *might* just be able to patch the kernel myself, if I learn how to do that and use the right settings?\n
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        I’ve done a couple of commands and pulled some logs from the laptop, and detailed info - lshw, lspci, dmidecode, acpidump, etc - can be found in [this folder](https://files.neurario.com/.InfinityLaptop-Debugging/) on my web server.\n
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        To my understanding my options are to use the older kernel for now and figure out why the display manager is not working, or learn to patch the current kernel and hope that that works. What’s my best option, and is there anything else I might be missing ?
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            Nice. Also it occurred to me that there might be a way to set that quirk through the kernel command line instead of having to compile a patched kernel. I haven’t had a chance to look it up though.\n
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            Edit: I couldn’t find anything obvious. This behaviour is buried pretty deep.
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            That’s great. If you get a chance, would you be able to test this patch?\n
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            ```\n
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            \n
            I’d like to try to get it upstream, and that seems like the sanest way to do it.\n
            \n
            You might need to be on linux 6.5+ for this patch to apply, and if you could verify that it’s still broken on 6.6 without the patch, that would be nice.
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            [git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/…/commit/?h=b…](https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/rafael/linux-pm.git/commit/?h=bleeding-edge&id=e2605d4039a42a03000856b3229932455717b48b)\n
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            FYI, I think the fix will make it into 6.8.
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      Could you do:\n
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      > Please share the output of `grep -v /sys/class/dmi/id/*` as a normal user (not root)\n
      \n
      It looks like all the patches from that thread are in linux 6.6, so your board may still need quirks added.\n
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      Once you know the board name you try something like this:\n
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        I picked up a laptop a couple of months ago for the purpose of setting up Linux on (I chose NixOS for stability) to go with my existing desktop. It’s an *Infinity E15-5A165-BM* (Infinity being an Australian local manufacturer of gaming laptops) which features a Ryzen 5 6600H CPU and a GeForce 1650 GTX.\n
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        The keyboard uses a generic driver (i8042), which works great on Windows and when booting (including Grub/systemd-boot). However, once booted, I’ve found that the keyboard no longer responds to input - and in fact no longer shows up as an input device. Now, I’ve done a fair bit of debugging so far (for someone who’s not had to patch anything manually but knows how to do a proper search) and I’ve worked out the following:\n
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        - I managed to find [this lore.kernel thread](https://lore.kernel.org/regressions/20230809085526.84913-1-hdegoede@redhat.com/T/) ‪‬ in which I believe my issue is discussed. This tells me that it’s known and being worked on and that I can maybe wait for a future kernel version, and that theoretically I *might* just be able to patch the kernel myself, if I learn how to do that and use the right settings?\n
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        I’ve done a couple of commands and pulled some logs from the laptop, and detailed info - lshw, lspci, dmidecode, acpidump, etc - can be found in [this folder](https://files.neurario.com/.InfinityLaptop-Debugging/) on my web server.\n
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        To my understanding my options are to use the older kernel for now and figure out why the display manager is not working, or learn to patch the current kernel and hope that that works. What’s my best option, and is there anything else I might be missing ?
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            Nice. Also it occurred to me that there might be a way to set that quirk through the kernel command line instead of having to compile a patched kernel. I haven’t had a chance to look it up though.\n
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            Edit: I couldn’t find anything obvious. This behaviour is buried pretty deep.
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            That’s great. If you get a chance, would you be able to test this patch?\n
            \n
            ```\n
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            \n
            I’d like to try to get it upstream, and that seems like the sanest way to do it.\n
            \n
            You might need to be on linux 6.5+ for this patch to apply, and if you could verify that it’s still broken on 6.6 without the patch, that would be nice.
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            [git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/…/commit/?h=b…](https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/rafael/linux-pm.git/commit/?h=bleeding-edge&id=e2605d4039a42a03000856b3229932455717b48b)\n
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            FYI, I think the fix will make it into 6.8.
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      Could you do:\n
      \n
      > Please share the output of `grep -v /sys/class/dmi/id/*` as a normal user (not root)\n
      \n
      It looks like all the patches from that thread are in linux 6.6, so your board may still need quirks added.\n
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      Once you know the board name you try something like this:\n
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            Nice. Also it occurred to me that there might be a way to set that quirk through the kernel command line instead of having to compile a patched kernel. I haven’t had a chance to look it up though.\n
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            That’s great. If you get a chance, would you be able to test this patch?\n
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            \n
            I’d like to try to get it upstream, and that seems like the sanest way to do it.\n
            \n
            You might need to be on linux 6.5+ for this patch to apply, and if you could verify that it’s still broken on 6.6 without the patch, that would be nice.
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        I picked up a laptop a couple of months ago for the purpose of setting up Linux on (I chose NixOS for stability) to go with my existing desktop. It’s an *Infinity E15-5A165-BM* (Infinity being an Australian local manufacturer of gaming laptops) which features a Ryzen 5 6600H CPU and a GeForce 1650 GTX.\n
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        The keyboard uses a generic driver (i8042), which works great on Windows and when booting (including Grub/systemd-boot). However, once booted, I’ve found that the keyboard no longer responds to input - and in fact no longer shows up as an input device. Now, I’ve done a fair bit of debugging so far (for someone who’s not had to patch anything manually but knows how to do a proper search) and I’ve worked out the following:\n
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        I’ve done a couple of commands and pulled some logs from the laptop, and detailed info - lshw, lspci, dmidecode, acpidump, etc - can be found in [this folder](https://files.neurario.com/.InfinityLaptop-Debugging/) on my web server.\n
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        To my understanding my options are to use the older kernel for now and figure out why the display manager is not working, or learn to patch the current kernel and hope that that works. What’s my best option, and is there anything else I might be missing ?
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            Nice. Also it occurred to me that there might be a way to set that quirk through the kernel command line instead of having to compile a patched kernel. I haven’t had a chance to look it up though.\n
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            Edit: I couldn’t find anything obvious. This behaviour is buried pretty deep.
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            That’s great. If you get a chance, would you be able to test this patch?\n
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            ```\n
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            \n
            I’d like to try to get it upstream, and that seems like the sanest way to do it.\n
            \n
            You might need to be on linux 6.5+ for this patch to apply, and if you could verify that it’s still broken on 6.6 without the patch, that would be nice.
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            [git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/…/commit/?h=b…](https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/rafael/linux-pm.git/commit/?h=bleeding-edge&id=e2605d4039a42a03000856b3229932455717b48b)\n
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      Could you do:\n
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      > Please share the output of `grep -v /sys/class/dmi/id/*` as a normal user (not root)\n
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      It looks like all the patches from that thread are in linux 6.6, so your board may still need quirks added.\n
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      Once you know the board name you try something like this:\n
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        I picked up a laptop a couple of months ago for the purpose of setting up Linux on (I chose NixOS for stability) to go with my existing desktop. It’s an *Infinity E15-5A165-BM* (Infinity being an Australian local manufacturer of gaming laptops) which features a Ryzen 5 6600H CPU and a GeForce 1650 GTX.\n
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        The keyboard uses a generic driver (i8042), which works great on Windows and when booting (including Grub/systemd-boot). However, once booted, I’ve found that the keyboard no longer responds to input - and in fact no longer shows up as an input device. Now, I’ve done a fair bit of debugging so far (for someone who’s not had to patch anything manually but knows how to do a proper search) and I’ve worked out the following:\n
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        - I managed to find [this lore.kernel thread](https://lore.kernel.org/regressions/20230809085526.84913-1-hdegoede@redhat.com/T/) ‪‬ in which I believe my issue is discussed. This tells me that it’s known and being worked on and that I can maybe wait for a future kernel version, and that theoretically I *might* just be able to patch the kernel myself, if I learn how to do that and use the right settings?\n
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        I’ve done a couple of commands and pulled some logs from the laptop, and detailed info - lshw, lspci, dmidecode, acpidump, etc - can be found in [this folder](https://files.neurario.com/.InfinityLaptop-Debugging/) on my web server.\n
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        To my understanding my options are to use the older kernel for now and figure out why the display manager is not working, or learn to patch the current kernel and hope that that works. What’s my best option, and is there anything else I might be missing ?
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            Nice. Also it occurred to me that there might be a way to set that quirk through the kernel command line instead of having to compile a patched kernel. I haven’t had a chance to look it up though.\n
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            Edit: I couldn’t find anything obvious. This behaviour is buried pretty deep.
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            That’s great. If you get a chance, would you be able to test this patch?\n
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            ```\n
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            I’d like to try to get it upstream, and that seems like the sanest way to do it.\n
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            You might need to be on linux 6.5+ for this patch to apply, and if you could verify that it’s still broken on 6.6 without the patch, that would be nice.
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            [git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/…/commit/?h=b…](https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/rafael/linux-pm.git/commit/?h=bleeding-edge&id=e2605d4039a42a03000856b3229932455717b48b)\n
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            Could you do:\n
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            > Please share the output of `grep -v /sys/class/dmi/id/*` as a normal user (not root)\n
            \n
            It looks like all the patches from that thread are in linux 6.6, so your board may still need quirks added.\n
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            </span><span style="color:#323232;">  }];\n
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            ```\n
            \n
            Just be careful that the indentation of the patch part doesn’t get changed.
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            That’s great. If you get a chance, would you be able to test this patch?\n
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            I’d like to try to get it upstream, and that seems like the sanest way to do it.\n
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            You might need to be on linux 6.5+ for this patch to apply, and if you could verify that it’s still broken on 6.6 without the patch, that would be nice.
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      Nice. Also it occurred to me that there might be a way to set that quirk through the kernel command line instead of having to compile a patched kernel. I haven’t had a chance to look it up though.\n
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        I picked up a laptop a couple of months ago for the purpose of setting up Linux on (I chose NixOS for stability) to go with my existing desktop. It’s an *Infinity E15-5A165-BM* (Infinity being an Australian local manufacturer of gaming laptops) which features a Ryzen 5 6600H CPU and a GeForce 1650 GTX.\n
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        The keyboard uses a generic driver (i8042), which works great on Windows and when booting (including Grub/systemd-boot). However, once booted, I’ve found that the keyboard no longer responds to input - and in fact no longer shows up as an input device. Now, I’ve done a fair bit of debugging so far (for someone who’s not had to patch anything manually but knows how to do a proper search) and I’ve worked out the following:\n
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        - I managed to find [this lore.kernel thread](https://lore.kernel.org/regressions/20230809085526.84913-1-hdegoede@redhat.com/T/) ‪‬ in which I believe my issue is discussed. This tells me that it’s known and being worked on and that I can maybe wait for a future kernel version, and that theoretically I *might* just be able to patch the kernel myself, if I learn how to do that and use the right settings?\n
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        I’ve done a couple of commands and pulled some logs from the laptop, and detailed info - lshw, lspci, dmidecode, acpidump, etc - can be found in [this folder](https://files.neurario.com/.InfinityLaptop-Debugging/) on my web server.\n
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        To my understanding my options are to use the older kernel for now and figure out why the display manager is not working, or learn to patch the current kernel and hope that that works. What’s my best option, and is there anything else I might be missing ?
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            Could you do:\n
            \n
            > Please share the output of `grep -v /sys/class/dmi/id/*` as a normal user (not root)\n
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            It looks like all the patches from that thread are in linux 6.6, so your board may still need quirks added.\n
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            Once you know the board name you try something like this:\n
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            </span><span style="color:#323232;"> \t\t},\n
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            </span><span style="color:#323232;">'';\n
            </span><span style="color:#323232;">  }];\n
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            ```\n
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            Just be careful that the indentation of the patch part doesn’t get changed.
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            That’s great. If you get a chance, would you be able to test this patch?\n
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            ```\n
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            \n
            I’d like to try to get it upstream, and that seems like the sanest way to do it.\n
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            You might need to be on linux 6.5+ for this patch to apply, and if you could verify that it’s still broken on 6.6 without the patch, that would be nice.
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            [git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/…/commit/?h=b…](https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/rafael/linux-pm.git/commit/?h=bleeding-edge&id=e2605d4039a42a03000856b3229932455717b48b)\n
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        I picked up a laptop a couple of months ago for the purpose of setting up Linux on (I chose NixOS for stability) to go with my existing desktop. It’s an *Infinity E15-5A165-BM* (Infinity being an Australian local manufacturer of gaming laptops) which features a Ryzen 5 6600H CPU and a GeForce 1650 GTX.\n
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        To my understanding my options are to use the older kernel for now and figure out why the display manager is not working, or learn to patch the current kernel and hope that that works. What’s my best option, and is there anything else I might be missing ?
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            Could you do:\n
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            > Please share the output of `grep -v /sys/class/dmi/id/*` as a normal user (not root)\n
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            It looks like all the patches from that thread are in linux 6.6, so your board may still need quirks added.\n
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            Just be careful that the indentation of the patch part doesn’t get changed.
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            That’s great. If you get a chance, would you be able to test this patch?\n
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            ```\n
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            I’d like to try to get it upstream, and that seems like the sanest way to do it.\n
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            You might need to be on linux 6.5+ for this patch to apply, and if you could verify that it’s still broken on 6.6 without the patch, that would be nice.
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        - I managed to find [this lore.kernel thread](https://lore.kernel.org/regressions/20230809085526.84913-1-hdegoede@redhat.com/T/) ‪‬ in which I believe my issue is discussed. This tells me that it’s known and being worked on and that I can maybe wait for a future kernel version, and that theoretically I *might* just be able to patch the kernel myself, if I learn how to do that and use the right settings?\n
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        I’ve done a couple of commands and pulled some logs from the laptop, and detailed info - lshw, lspci, dmidecode, acpidump, etc - can be found in [this folder](https://files.neurario.com/.InfinityLaptop-Debugging/) on my web server.\n
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        To my understanding my options are to use the older kernel for now and figure out why the display manager is not working, or learn to patch the current kernel and hope that that works. What’s my best option, and is there anything else I might be missing ?
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            Could you do:\n
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            > Please share the output of `grep -v /sys/class/dmi/id/*` as a normal user (not root)\n
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            It looks like all the patches from that thread are in linux 6.6, so your board may still need quirks added.\n
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            Just be careful that the indentation of the patch part doesn’t get changed.
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            That’s great. If you get a chance, would you be able to test this patch?\n
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            I’d like to try to get it upstream, and that seems like the sanest way to do it.\n
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            You might need to be on linux 6.5+ for this patch to apply, and if you could verify that it’s still broken on 6.6 without the patch, that would be nice.
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      Nice. Also it occurred to me that there might be a way to set that quirk through the kernel command line instead of having to compile a patched kernel. I haven’t had a chance to look it up though.\n
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        I picked up a laptop a couple of months ago for the purpose of setting up Linux on (I chose NixOS for stability) to go with my existing desktop. It’s an *Infinity E15-5A165-BM* (Infinity being an Australian local manufacturer of gaming laptops) which features a Ryzen 5 6600H CPU and a GeForce 1650 GTX.\n
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        The keyboard uses a generic driver (i8042), which works great on Windows and when booting (including Grub/systemd-boot). However, once booted, I’ve found that the keyboard no longer responds to input - and in fact no longer shows up as an input device. Now, I’ve done a fair bit of debugging so far (for someone who’s not had to patch anything manually but knows how to do a proper search) and I’ve worked out the following:\n
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        - I managed to find [this lore.kernel thread](https://lore.kernel.org/regressions/20230809085526.84913-1-hdegoede@redhat.com/T/) ‪‬ in which I believe my issue is discussed. This tells me that it’s known and being worked on and that I can maybe wait for a future kernel version, and that theoretically I *might* just be able to patch the kernel myself, if I learn how to do that and use the right settings?\n
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        I’ve done a couple of commands and pulled some logs from the laptop, and detailed info - lshw, lspci, dmidecode, acpidump, etc - can be found in [this folder](https://files.neurario.com/.InfinityLaptop-Debugging/) on my web server.\n
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        To my understanding my options are to use the older kernel for now and figure out why the display manager is not working, or learn to patch the current kernel and hope that that works. What’s my best option, and is there anything else I might be missing ?
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            Could you do:\n
            \n
            > Please share the output of `grep -v /sys/class/dmi/id/*` as a normal user (not root)\n
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            It looks like all the patches from that thread are in linux 6.6, so your board may still need quirks added.\n
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            Once you know the board name you try something like this:\n
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            </span><span style="color:#323232;">'';\n
            </span><span style="color:#323232;">  }];\n
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            ```\n
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            Just be careful that the indentation of the patch part doesn’t get changed.
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            That’s great. If you get a chance, would you be able to test this patch?\n
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            ```\n
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            I’d like to try to get it upstream, and that seems like the sanest way to do it.\n
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            You might need to be on linux 6.5+ for this patch to apply, and if you could verify that it’s still broken on 6.6 without the patch, that would be nice.
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            [git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/…/commit/?h=b…](https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/rafael/linux-pm.git/commit/?h=bleeding-edge&id=e2605d4039a42a03000856b3229932455717b48b)\n
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            Could you do:\n
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            > Please share the output of `grep -v /sys/class/dmi/id/*` as a normal user (not root)\n
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            It looks like all the patches from that thread are in linux 6.6, so your board may still need quirks added.\n
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            That’s great. If you get a chance, would you be able to test this patch?\n
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            I’d like to try to get it upstream, and that seems like the sanest way to do it.\n
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            You might need to be on linux 6.5+ for this patch to apply, and if you could verify that it’s still broken on 6.6 without the patch, that would be nice.
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            [git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/…/commit/?h=b…](https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/rafael/linux-pm.git/commit/?h=bleeding-edge&id=e2605d4039a42a03000856b3229932455717b48b)\n
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      Nice. Also it occurred to me that there might be a way to set that quirk through the kernel command line instead of having to compile a patched kernel. I haven’t had a chance to look it up though.\n
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        I picked up a laptop a couple of months ago for the purpose of setting up Linux on (I chose NixOS for stability) to go with my existing desktop. It’s an *Infinity E15-5A165-BM* (Infinity being an Australian local manufacturer of gaming laptops) which features a Ryzen 5 6600H CPU and a GeForce 1650 GTX.\n
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        The keyboard uses a generic driver (i8042), which works great on Windows and when booting (including Grub/systemd-boot). However, once booted, I’ve found that the keyboard no longer responds to input - and in fact no longer shows up as an input device. Now, I’ve done a fair bit of debugging so far (for someone who’s not had to patch anything manually but knows how to do a proper search) and I’ve worked out the following:\n
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        - I managed to find [this lore.kernel thread](https://lore.kernel.org/regressions/20230809085526.84913-1-hdegoede@redhat.com/T/) ‪‬ in which I believe my issue is discussed. This tells me that it’s known and being worked on and that I can maybe wait for a future kernel version, and that theoretically I *might* just be able to patch the kernel myself, if I learn how to do that and use the right settings?\n
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        I’ve done a couple of commands and pulled some logs from the laptop, and detailed info - lshw, lspci, dmidecode, acpidump, etc - can be found in [this folder](https://files.neurario.com/.InfinityLaptop-Debugging/) on my web server.\n
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        To my understanding my options are to use the older kernel for now and figure out why the display manager is not working, or learn to patch the current kernel and hope that that works. What’s my best option, and is there anything else I might be missing ?
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            Could you do:\n
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            > Please share the output of `grep -v /sys/class/dmi/id/*` as a normal user (not root)\n
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            It looks like all the patches from that thread are in linux 6.6, so your board may still need quirks added.\n
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            Once you know the board name you try something like this:\n
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            </span><span style="color:#323232;">'';\n
            </span><span style="color:#323232;">  }];\n
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            Just be careful that the indentation of the patch part doesn’t get changed.
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            Nice. Also it occurred to me that there might be a way to set that quirk through the kernel command line instead of having to compile a patched kernel. I haven’t had a chance to look it up though.\n
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            Edit: I couldn’t find anything obvious. This behaviour is buried pretty deep.
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            [git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/…/commit/?h=b…](https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/rafael/linux-pm.git/commit/?h=bleeding-edge&id=e2605d4039a42a03000856b3229932455717b48b)\n
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            FYI, I think the fix will make it into 6.8.
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      That’s great. If you get a chance, would you be able to test this patch?\n
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      ```\n
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            Could you do:\n
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            > Please share the output of `grep -v /sys/class/dmi/id/*` as a normal user (not root)\n
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            It looks like all the patches from that thread are in linux 6.6, so your board may still need quirks added.\n
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      That’s great. If you get a chance, would you be able to test this patch?\n
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      I’d like to try to get it upstream, and that seems like the sanest way to do it.\n
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      You might need to be on linux 6.5+ for this patch to apply, and if you could verify that it’s still broken on 6.6 without the patch, that would be nice.
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            Could you do:\n
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            > Please share the output of `grep -v /sys/class/dmi/id/*` as a normal user (not root)\n
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            It looks like all the patches from that thread are in linux 6.6, so your board may still need quirks added.\n
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            [git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/…/commit/?h=b…](https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/rafael/linux-pm.git/commit/?h=bleeding-edge&id=e2605d4039a42a03000856b3229932455717b48b)\n
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      I’d like to try to get it upstream, and that seems like the sanest way to do it.\n
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      You might need to be on linux 6.5+ for this patch to apply, and if you could verify that it’s still broken on 6.6 without the patch, that would be nice.
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        I picked up a laptop a couple of months ago for the purpose of setting up Linux on (I chose NixOS for stability) to go with my existing desktop. It’s an *Infinity E15-5A165-BM* (Infinity being an Australian local manufacturer of gaming laptops) which features a Ryzen 5 6600H CPU and a GeForce 1650 GTX.\n
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        The keyboard uses a generic driver (i8042), which works great on Windows and when booting (including Grub/systemd-boot). However, once booted, I’ve found that the keyboard no longer responds to input - and in fact no longer shows up as an input device. Now, I’ve done a fair bit of debugging so far (for someone who’s not had to patch anything manually but knows how to do a proper search) and I’ve worked out the following:\n
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        - I managed to find [this lore.kernel thread](https://lore.kernel.org/regressions/20230809085526.84913-1-hdegoede@redhat.com/T/) ‪‬ in which I believe my issue is discussed. This tells me that it’s known and being worked on and that I can maybe wait for a future kernel version, and that theoretically I *might* just be able to patch the kernel myself, if I learn how to do that and use the right settings?\n
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        I’ve done a couple of commands and pulled some logs from the laptop, and detailed info - lshw, lspci, dmidecode, acpidump, etc - can be found in [this folder](https://files.neurario.com/.InfinityLaptop-Debugging/) on my web server.\n
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        To my understanding my options are to use the older kernel for now and figure out why the display manager is not working, or learn to patch the current kernel and hope that that works. What’s my best option, and is there anything else I might be missing ?
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            Could you do:\n
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            > Please share the output of `grep -v /sys/class/dmi/id/*` as a normal user (not root)\n
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            It looks like all the patches from that thread are in linux 6.6, so your board may still need quirks added.\n
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            Once you know the board name you try something like this:\n
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            </span><span style="color:#323232;">'';\n
            </span><span style="color:#323232;">  }];\n
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            Just be careful that the indentation of the patch part doesn’t get changed.
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            Nice. Also it occurred to me that there might be a way to set that quirk through the kernel command line instead of having to compile a patched kernel. I haven’t had a chance to look it up though.\n
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            Edit: I couldn’t find anything obvious. This behaviour is buried pretty deep.
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            [git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/…/commit/?h=b…](https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/rafael/linux-pm.git/commit/?h=bleeding-edge&id=e2605d4039a42a03000856b3229932455717b48b)\n
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            FYI, I think the fix will make it into 6.8.
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      That’s great. If you get a chance, would you be able to test this patch?\n
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      ```\n
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            [git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/…/commit/?h=b…](https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/rafael/linux-pm.git/commit/?h=bleeding-edge&id=e2605d4039a42a03000856b3229932455717b48b)\n
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      That’s great. If you get a chance, would you be able to test this patch?\n
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      I’d like to try to get it upstream, and that seems like the sanest way to do it.\n
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      You might need to be on linux 6.5+ for this patch to apply, and if you could verify that it’s still broken on 6.6 without the patch, that would be nice.
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        I picked up a laptop a couple of months ago for the purpose of setting up Linux on (I chose NixOS for stability) to go with my existing desktop. It’s an *Infinity E15-5A165-BM* (Infinity being an Australian local manufacturer of gaming laptops) which features a Ryzen 5 6600H CPU and a GeForce 1650 GTX.\n
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        The keyboard uses a generic driver (i8042), which works great on Windows and when booting (including Grub/systemd-boot). However, once booted, I’ve found that the keyboard no longer responds to input - and in fact no longer shows up as an input device. Now, I’ve done a fair bit of debugging so far (for someone who’s not had to patch anything manually but knows how to do a proper search) and I’ve worked out the following:\n
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        - I managed to find [this lore.kernel thread](https://lore.kernel.org/regressions/20230809085526.84913-1-hdegoede@redhat.com/T/) ‪‬ in which I believe my issue is discussed. This tells me that it’s known and being worked on and that I can maybe wait for a future kernel version, and that theoretically I *might* just be able to patch the kernel myself, if I learn how to do that and use the right settings?\n
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        I’ve done a couple of commands and pulled some logs from the laptop, and detailed info - lshw, lspci, dmidecode, acpidump, etc - can be found in [this folder](https://files.neurario.com/.InfinityLaptop-Debugging/) on my web server.\n
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        To my understanding my options are to use the older kernel for now and figure out why the display manager is not working, or learn to patch the current kernel and hope that that works. What’s my best option, and is there anything else I might be missing ?
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            Could you do:\n
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            > Please share the output of `grep -v /sys/class/dmi/id/*` as a normal user (not root)\n
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            It looks like all the patches from that thread are in linux 6.6, so your board may still need quirks added.\n
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            Once you know the board name you try something like this:\n
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            </span><span style="color:#323232;">'';\n
            </span><span style="color:#323232;">  }];\n
            </span>\n
            ```\n
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            Just be careful that the indentation of the patch part doesn’t get changed.
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            Nice. Also it occurred to me that there might be a way to set that quirk through the kernel command line instead of having to compile a patched kernel. I haven’t had a chance to look it up though.\n
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            [git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/…/commit/?h=b…](https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/rafael/linux-pm.git/commit/?h=bleeding-edge&id=e2605d4039a42a03000856b3229932455717b48b)\n
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            FYI, I think the fix will make it into 6.8.
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      That’s great. If you get a chance, would you be able to test this patch?\n
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      ```\n
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      ```\n
      \n
      I’d like to try to get it upstream, and that seems like the sanest way to do it.\n
      \n
      You might need to be on linux 6.5+ for this patch to apply, and if you could verify that it’s still broken on 6.6 without the patch, that would be nice.
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        I picked up a laptop a couple of months ago for the purpose of setting up Linux on (I chose NixOS for stability) to go with my existing desktop. It’s an *Infinity E15-5A165-BM* (Infinity being an Australian local manufacturer of gaming laptops) which features a Ryzen 5 6600H CPU and a GeForce 1650 GTX.\n
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        The keyboard uses a generic driver (i8042), which works great on Windows and when booting (including Grub/systemd-boot). However, once booted, I’ve found that the keyboard no longer responds to input - and in fact no longer shows up as an input device. Now, I’ve done a fair bit of debugging so far (for someone who’s not had to patch anything manually but knows how to do a proper search) and I’ve worked out the following:\n
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        - I managed to find [this lore.kernel thread](https://lore.kernel.org/regressions/20230809085526.84913-1-hdegoede@redhat.com/T/) ‪‬ in which I believe my issue is discussed. This tells me that it’s known and being worked on and that I can maybe wait for a future kernel version, and that theoretically I *might* just be able to patch the kernel myself, if I learn how to do that and use the right settings?\n
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        I’ve done a couple of commands and pulled some logs from the laptop, and detailed info - lshw, lspci, dmidecode, acpidump, etc - can be found in [this folder](https://files.neurario.com/.InfinityLaptop-Debugging/) on my web server.\n
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        To my understanding my options are to use the older kernel for now and figure out why the display manager is not working, or learn to patch the current kernel and hope that that works. What’s my best option, and is there anything else I might be missing ?
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            Could you do:\n
            \n
            > Please share the output of `grep -v /sys/class/dmi/id/*` as a normal user (not root)\n
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            It looks like all the patches from that thread are in linux 6.6, so your board may still need quirks added.\n
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            Once you know the board name you try something like this:\n
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            <span style="color:#323232;">  boot.kernelPatches = [{\n
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            </span><span style="color:#323232;">--- a/drivers/acpi/resource.c\n
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            </span><span style="color:#323232;">'';\n
            </span><span style="color:#323232;">  }];\n
            </span>\n
            ```\n
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            Just be careful that the indentation of the patch part doesn’t get changed.
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            Nice. Also it occurred to me that there might be a way to set that quirk through the kernel command line instead of having to compile a patched kernel. I haven’t had a chance to look it up though.\n
            \n
            Edit: I couldn’t find anything obvious. This behaviour is buried pretty deep.
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            That’s great. If you get a chance, would you be able to test this patch?\n
            \n
            ```\n
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            </span><span style="color:#323232;">+\t{\n
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            </span><span style="color:#323232;">+\t\t.ident = "Infinity E15-5A305-1M"\n
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            </span><span style="color:#323232;"> \t{ }\n
            </span><span style="color:#323232;"> };\n
            </span><span style="color:#323232;"> \n
            </span>\n
            ```\n
            \n
            I’d like to try to get it upstream, and that seems like the sanest way to do it.\n
            \n
            You might need to be on linux 6.5+ for this patch to apply, and if you could verify that it’s still broken on 6.6 without the patch, that would be nice.
            """
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            Could you do:\n
            \n
            > Please share the output of `grep -v /sys/class/dmi/id/*` as a normal user (not root)\n
            \n
            It looks like all the patches from that thread are in linux 6.6, so your board may still need quirks added.\n
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            Once you know the board name you try something like this:\n
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            </span><span style="color:#323232;">'';\n
            </span><span style="color:#323232;">  }];\n
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            ```\n
            \n
            Just be careful that the indentation of the patch part doesn’t get changed.
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            Nice. Also it occurred to me that there might be a way to set that quirk through the kernel command line instead of having to compile a patched kernel. I haven’t had a chance to look it up though.\n
            \n
            Edit: I couldn’t find anything obvious. This behaviour is buried pretty deep.
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            That’s great. If you get a chance, would you be able to test this patch?\n
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            ```\n
            \n
            I’d like to try to get it upstream, and that seems like the sanest way to do it.\n
            \n
            You might need to be on linux 6.5+ for this patch to apply, and if you could verify that it’s still broken on 6.6 without the patch, that would be nice.
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            [git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/…/commit/?h=b…](https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/rafael/linux-pm.git/commit/?h=bleeding-edge&id=e2605d4039a42a03000856b3229932455717b48b)\n
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        I picked up a laptop a couple of months ago for the purpose of setting up Linux on (I chose NixOS for stability) to go with my existing desktop. It’s an *Infinity E15-5A165-BM* (Infinity being an Australian local manufacturer of gaming laptops) which features a Ryzen 5 6600H CPU and a GeForce 1650 GTX.\n
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        The keyboard uses a generic driver (i8042), which works great on Windows and when booting (including Grub/systemd-boot). However, once booted, I’ve found that the keyboard no longer responds to input - and in fact no longer shows up as an input device. Now, I’ve done a fair bit of debugging so far (for someone who’s not had to patch anything manually but knows how to do a proper search) and I’ve worked out the following:\n
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        - I managed to find [this lore.kernel thread](https://lore.kernel.org/regressions/20230809085526.84913-1-hdegoede@redhat.com/T/) ‪‬ in which I believe my issue is discussed. This tells me that it’s known and being worked on and that I can maybe wait for a future kernel version, and that theoretically I *might* just be able to patch the kernel myself, if I learn how to do that and use the right settings?\n
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        To my understanding my options are to use the older kernel for now and figure out why the display manager is not working, or learn to patch the current kernel and hope that that works. What’s my best option, and is there anything else I might be missing ?
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            Could you do:\n
            \n
            > Please share the output of `grep -v /sys/class/dmi/id/*` as a normal user (not root)\n
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            It looks like all the patches from that thread are in linux 6.6, so your board may still need quirks added.\n
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            Just be careful that the indentation of the patch part doesn’t get changed.
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            Nice. Also it occurred to me that there might be a way to set that quirk through the kernel command line instead of having to compile a patched kernel. I haven’t had a chance to look it up though.\n
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            Edit: I couldn’t find anything obvious. This behaviour is buried pretty deep.
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            That’s great. If you get a chance, would you be able to test this patch?\n
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            ```\n
            \n
            I’d like to try to get it upstream, and that seems like the sanest way to do it.\n
            \n
            You might need to be on linux 6.5+ for this patch to apply, and if you could verify that it’s still broken on 6.6 without the patch, that would be nice.
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            [git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/…/commit/?h=b…](https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/rafael/linux-pm.git/commit/?h=bleeding-edge&id=e2605d4039a42a03000856b3229932455717b48b)\n
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        I picked up a laptop a couple of months ago for the purpose of setting up Linux on (I chose NixOS for stability) to go with my existing desktop. It’s an *Infinity E15-5A165-BM* (Infinity being an Australian local manufacturer of gaming laptops) which features a Ryzen 5 6600H CPU and a GeForce 1650 GTX.\n
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        The keyboard uses a generic driver (i8042), which works great on Windows and when booting (including Grub/systemd-boot). However, once booted, I’ve found that the keyboard no longer responds to input - and in fact no longer shows up as an input device. Now, I’ve done a fair bit of debugging so far (for someone who’s not had to patch anything manually but knows how to do a proper search) and I’ve worked out the following:\n
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        - I managed to find [this lore.kernel thread](https://lore.kernel.org/regressions/20230809085526.84913-1-hdegoede@redhat.com/T/) ‪‬ in which I believe my issue is discussed. This tells me that it’s known and being worked on and that I can maybe wait for a future kernel version, and that theoretically I *might* just be able to patch the kernel myself, if I learn how to do that and use the right settings?\n
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        I’ve done a couple of commands and pulled some logs from the laptop, and detailed info - lshw, lspci, dmidecode, acpidump, etc - can be found in [this folder](https://files.neurario.com/.InfinityLaptop-Debugging/) on my web server.\n
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        To my understanding my options are to use the older kernel for now and figure out why the display manager is not working, or learn to patch the current kernel and hope that that works. What’s my best option, and is there anything else I might be missing ?
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            Could you do:\n
            \n
            > Please share the output of `grep -v /sys/class/dmi/id/*` as a normal user (not root)\n
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            It looks like all the patches from that thread are in linux 6.6, so your board may still need quirks added.\n
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            Once you know the board name you try something like this:\n
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            </span><span style="color:#323232;">'';\n
            </span><span style="color:#323232;">  }];\n
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            ```\n
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            Just be careful that the indentation of the patch part doesn’t get changed.
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            Nice. Also it occurred to me that there might be a way to set that quirk through the kernel command line instead of having to compile a patched kernel. I haven’t had a chance to look it up though.\n
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            Edit: I couldn’t find anything obvious. This behaviour is buried pretty deep.
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            That’s great. If you get a chance, would you be able to test this patch?\n
            \n
            ```\n
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            </span><span style="color:#323232;">+\t\t.ident = "Infinity E15-5A305-1M"\n
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            </span><span style="color:#323232;"> \n
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            ```\n
            \n
            I’d like to try to get it upstream, and that seems like the sanest way to do it.\n
            \n
            You might need to be on linux 6.5+ for this patch to apply, and if you could verify that it’s still broken on 6.6 without the patch, that would be nice.
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            Could you do:\n
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            > Please share the output of `grep -v /sys/class/dmi/id/*` as a normal user (not root)\n
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            It looks like all the patches from that thread are in linux 6.6, so your board may still need quirks added.\n
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            Once you know the board name you try something like this:\n
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            </span><span style="color:#323232;">'';\n
            </span><span style="color:#323232;">  }];\n
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            Just be careful that the indentation of the patch part doesn’t get changed.
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            Nice. Also it occurred to me that there might be a way to set that quirk through the kernel command line instead of having to compile a patched kernel. I haven’t had a chance to look it up though.\n
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            Edit: I couldn’t find anything obvious. This behaviour is buried pretty deep.
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            That’s great. If you get a chance, would you be able to test this patch?\n
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            I’d like to try to get it upstream, and that seems like the sanest way to do it.\n
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            You might need to be on linux 6.5+ for this patch to apply, and if you could verify that it’s still broken on 6.6 without the patch, that would be nice.
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        I picked up a laptop a couple of months ago for the purpose of setting up Linux on (I chose NixOS for stability) to go with my existing desktop. It’s an *Infinity E15-5A165-BM* (Infinity being an Australian local manufacturer of gaming laptops) which features a Ryzen 5 6600H CPU and a GeForce 1650 GTX.\n
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        The keyboard uses a generic driver (i8042), which works great on Windows and when booting (including Grub/systemd-boot). However, once booted, I’ve found that the keyboard no longer responds to input - and in fact no longer shows up as an input device. Now, I’ve done a fair bit of debugging so far (for someone who’s not had to patch anything manually but knows how to do a proper search) and I’ve worked out the following:\n
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        - I managed to find [this lore.kernel thread](https://lore.kernel.org/regressions/20230809085526.84913-1-hdegoede@redhat.com/T/) ‪‬ in which I believe my issue is discussed. This tells me that it’s known and being worked on and that I can maybe wait for a future kernel version, and that theoretically I *might* just be able to patch the kernel myself, if I learn how to do that and use the right settings?\n
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        I’ve done a couple of commands and pulled some logs from the laptop, and detailed info - lshw, lspci, dmidecode, acpidump, etc - can be found in [this folder](https://files.neurario.com/.InfinityLaptop-Debugging/) on my web server.\n
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        To my understanding my options are to use the older kernel for now and figure out why the display manager is not working, or learn to patch the current kernel and hope that that works. What’s my best option, and is there anything else I might be missing ?
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            Could you do:\n
            \n
            > Please share the output of `grep -v /sys/class/dmi/id/*` as a normal user (not root)\n
            \n
            It looks like all the patches from that thread are in linux 6.6, so your board may still need quirks added.\n
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            Once you know the board name you try something like this:\n
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            </span><span style="color:#323232;"> \t\t},\n
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            </span><span style="color:#323232;">'';\n
            </span><span style="color:#323232;">  }];\n
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            ```\n
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            Just be careful that the indentation of the patch part doesn’t get changed.
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            Nice. Also it occurred to me that there might be a way to set that quirk through the kernel command line instead of having to compile a patched kernel. I haven’t had a chance to look it up though.\n
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            Edit: I couldn’t find anything obvious. This behaviour is buried pretty deep.
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            That’s great. If you get a chance, would you be able to test this patch?\n
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            ```\n
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            ```\n
            \n
            I’d like to try to get it upstream, and that seems like the sanest way to do it.\n
            \n
            You might need to be on linux 6.5+ for this patch to apply, and if you could verify that it’s still broken on 6.6 without the patch, that would be nice.
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            [git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/…/commit/?h=b…](https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/rafael/linux-pm.git/commit/?h=bleeding-edge&id=e2605d4039a42a03000856b3229932455717b48b)\n
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            > Please share the output of `grep -v /sys/class/dmi/id/*` as a normal user (not root)\n
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            It looks like all the patches from that thread are in linux 6.6, so your board may still need quirks added.\n
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            Nice. Also it occurred to me that there might be a way to set that quirk through the kernel command line instead of having to compile a patched kernel. I haven’t had a chance to look it up though.\n
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            That’s great. If you get a chance, would you be able to test this patch?\n
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            I’d like to try to get it upstream, and that seems like the sanest way to do it.\n
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            You might need to be on linux 6.5+ for this patch to apply, and if you could verify that it’s still broken on 6.6 without the patch, that would be nice.
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        I picked up a laptop a couple of months ago for the purpose of setting up Linux on (I chose NixOS for stability) to go with my existing desktop. It’s an *Infinity E15-5A165-BM* (Infinity being an Australian local manufacturer of gaming laptops) which features a Ryzen 5 6600H CPU and a GeForce 1650 GTX.\n
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        The keyboard uses a generic driver (i8042), which works great on Windows and when booting (including Grub/systemd-boot). However, once booted, I’ve found that the keyboard no longer responds to input - and in fact no longer shows up as an input device. Now, I’ve done a fair bit of debugging so far (for someone who’s not had to patch anything manually but knows how to do a proper search) and I’ve worked out the following:\n
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        - I managed to find [this lore.kernel thread](https://lore.kernel.org/regressions/20230809085526.84913-1-hdegoede@redhat.com/T/) ‪‬ in which I believe my issue is discussed. This tells me that it’s known and being worked on and that I can maybe wait for a future kernel version, and that theoretically I *might* just be able to patch the kernel myself, if I learn how to do that and use the right settings?\n
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        I’ve done a couple of commands and pulled some logs from the laptop, and detailed info - lshw, lspci, dmidecode, acpidump, etc - can be found in [this folder](https://files.neurario.com/.InfinityLaptop-Debugging/) on my web server.\n
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        To my understanding my options are to use the older kernel for now and figure out why the display manager is not working, or learn to patch the current kernel and hope that that works. What’s my best option, and is there anything else I might be missing ?
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            Could you do:\n
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            > Please share the output of `grep -v /sys/class/dmi/id/*` as a normal user (not root)\n
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            It looks like all the patches from that thread are in linux 6.6, so your board may still need quirks added.\n
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            Once you know the board name you try something like this:\n
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            </span><span style="color:#323232;">'';\n
            </span><span style="color:#323232;">  }];\n
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            ```\n
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            Just be careful that the indentation of the patch part doesn’t get changed.
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            Nice. Also it occurred to me that there might be a way to set that quirk through the kernel command line instead of having to compile a patched kernel. I haven’t had a chance to look it up though.\n
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            Edit: I couldn’t find anything obvious. This behaviour is buried pretty deep.
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            That’s great. If you get a chance, would you be able to test this patch?\n
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            ```\n
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            ```\n
            \n
            I’d like to try to get it upstream, and that seems like the sanest way to do it.\n
            \n
            You might need to be on linux 6.5+ for this patch to apply, and if you could verify that it’s still broken on 6.6 without the patch, that would be nice.
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        I picked up a laptop a couple of months ago for the purpose of setting up Linux on (I chose NixOS for stability) to go with my existing desktop. It’s an *Infinity E15-5A165-BM* (Infinity being an Australian local manufacturer of gaming laptops) which features a Ryzen 5 6600H CPU and a GeForce 1650 GTX.\n
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        The keyboard uses a generic driver (i8042), which works great on Windows and when booting (including Grub/systemd-boot). However, once booted, I’ve found that the keyboard no longer responds to input - and in fact no longer shows up as an input device. Now, I’ve done a fair bit of debugging so far (for someone who’s not had to patch anything manually but knows how to do a proper search) and I’ve worked out the following:\n
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        - I managed to find [this lore.kernel thread](https://lore.kernel.org/regressions/20230809085526.84913-1-hdegoede@redhat.com/T/) ‪‬ in which I believe my issue is discussed. This tells me that it’s known and being worked on and that I can maybe wait for a future kernel version, and that theoretically I *might* just be able to patch the kernel myself, if I learn how to do that and use the right settings?\n
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        I’ve done a couple of commands and pulled some logs from the laptop, and detailed info - lshw, lspci, dmidecode, acpidump, etc - can be found in [this folder](https://files.neurario.com/.InfinityLaptop-Debugging/) on my web server.\n
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        To my understanding my options are to use the older kernel for now and figure out why the display manager is not working, or learn to patch the current kernel and hope that that works. What’s my best option, and is there anything else I might be missing ?
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            Could you do:\n
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            > Please share the output of `grep -v /sys/class/dmi/id/*` as a normal user (not root)\n
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            It looks like all the patches from that thread are in linux 6.6, so your board may still need quirks added.\n
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            Once you know the board name you try something like this:\n
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            </span><span style="color:#323232;">'';\n
            </span><span style="color:#323232;">  }];\n
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            ```\n
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            Just be careful that the indentation of the patch part doesn’t get changed.
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            Nice. Also it occurred to me that there might be a way to set that quirk through the kernel command line instead of having to compile a patched kernel. I haven’t had a chance to look it up though.\n
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            Edit: I couldn’t find anything obvious. This behaviour is buried pretty deep.
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            That’s great. If you get a chance, would you be able to test this patch?\n
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            ```\n
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            ```\n
            \n
            I’d like to try to get it upstream, and that seems like the sanest way to do it.\n
            \n
            You might need to be on linux 6.5+ for this patch to apply, and if you could verify that it’s still broken on 6.6 without the patch, that would be nice.
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            Could you do:\n
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            > Please share the output of `grep -v /sys/class/dmi/id/*` as a normal user (not root)\n
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            It looks like all the patches from that thread are in linux 6.6, so your board may still need quirks added.\n
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            Nice. Also it occurred to me that there might be a way to set that quirk through the kernel command line instead of having to compile a patched kernel. I haven’t had a chance to look it up though.\n
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            That’s great. If you get a chance, would you be able to test this patch?\n
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            I’d like to try to get it upstream, and that seems like the sanest way to do it.\n
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            You might need to be on linux 6.5+ for this patch to apply, and if you could verify that it’s still broken on 6.6 without the patch, that would be nice.
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        I picked up a laptop a couple of months ago for the purpose of setting up Linux on (I chose NixOS for stability) to go with my existing desktop. It’s an *Infinity E15-5A165-BM* (Infinity being an Australian local manufacturer of gaming laptops) which features a Ryzen 5 6600H CPU and a GeForce 1650 GTX.\n
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        The keyboard uses a generic driver (i8042), which works great on Windows and when booting (including Grub/systemd-boot). However, once booted, I’ve found that the keyboard no longer responds to input - and in fact no longer shows up as an input device. Now, I’ve done a fair bit of debugging so far (for someone who’s not had to patch anything manually but knows how to do a proper search) and I’ve worked out the following:\n
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        - I managed to find [this lore.kernel thread](https://lore.kernel.org/regressions/20230809085526.84913-1-hdegoede@redhat.com/T/) ‪‬ in which I believe my issue is discussed. This tells me that it’s known and being worked on and that I can maybe wait for a future kernel version, and that theoretically I *might* just be able to patch the kernel myself, if I learn how to do that and use the right settings?\n
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        I’ve done a couple of commands and pulled some logs from the laptop, and detailed info - lshw, lspci, dmidecode, acpidump, etc - can be found in [this folder](https://files.neurario.com/.InfinityLaptop-Debugging/) on my web server.\n
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        To my understanding my options are to use the older kernel for now and figure out why the display manager is not working, or learn to patch the current kernel and hope that that works. What’s my best option, and is there anything else I might be missing ?
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            Could you do:\n
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            > Please share the output of `grep -v /sys/class/dmi/id/*` as a normal user (not root)\n
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            It looks like all the patches from that thread are in linux 6.6, so your board may still need quirks added.\n
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            Once you know the board name you try something like this:\n
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            </span><span style="color:#323232;">'';\n
            </span><span style="color:#323232;">  }];\n
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            ```\n
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            Just be careful that the indentation of the patch part doesn’t get changed.
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            Nice. Also it occurred to me that there might be a way to set that quirk through the kernel command line instead of having to compile a patched kernel. I haven’t had a chance to look it up though.\n
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            Edit: I couldn’t find anything obvious. This behaviour is buried pretty deep.
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            That’s great. If you get a chance, would you be able to test this patch?\n
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            ```\n
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            ```\n
            \n
            I’d like to try to get it upstream, and that seems like the sanest way to do it.\n
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            You might need to be on linux 6.5+ for this patch to apply, and if you could verify that it’s still broken on 6.6 without the patch, that would be nice.
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        I picked up a laptop a couple of months ago for the purpose of setting up Linux on (I chose NixOS for stability) to go with my existing desktop. It’s an *Infinity E15-5A165-BM* (Infinity being an Australian local manufacturer of gaming laptops) which features a Ryzen 5 6600H CPU and a GeForce 1650 GTX.\n
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            Could you do:\n
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            > Please share the output of `grep -v /sys/class/dmi/id/*` as a normal user (not root)\n
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            It looks like all the patches from that thread are in linux 6.6, so your board may still need quirks added.\n
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            Nice. Also it occurred to me that there might be a way to set that quirk through the kernel command line instead of having to compile a patched kernel. I haven’t had a chance to look it up though.\n
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            That’s great. If you get a chance, would you be able to test this patch?\n
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            \n
            I’d like to try to get it upstream, and that seems like the sanest way to do it.\n
            \n
            You might need to be on linux 6.5+ for this patch to apply, and if you could verify that it’s still broken on 6.6 without the patch, that would be nice.
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      cross-posted from: [lemmy.ml/post/9648279](https://lemmy.ml/post/9648279)\n
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      > I would like to premise this with the following:\n
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      > - The best approach is probably just testing out each and every editor that interests me until I’ve found what works best for me. \n
      >     - However, I wonder to what degree a test as such would be representative when the likes of Emacs and (Neo)Vim are considered; both of which are known for being a life time learning process.\n
      > - I don’t literally expect Emacs or (Neo)Vim to be drop-in replacements for any IDE. Some of the most basic IDE-functions are absent by default and some (perhaps more advanced) functionality might simply not be attainable at all.\n
      > - I am not interested in anything that remotely resembles a flame war. The community at Lemmy has so far been very kind to me; let’s keep it that way 😜.\n
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      > - I’m on a custom image of [uBlue](https://ublue.it) using their [startingpoint](https://github.com/ublue-os/startingpoint) as template. For those unaware; an oversimplification would be that it is Fedora Silverblue with some extras.\n
      > - As such, I would like to have my developer environments local and have used [Distrobox](https://github.com/89luca89/distrobox) to that extent using steps similar to the ones outlined over [here](https://blog.niklas.tech/intellij-and-java-on-immutable-linux). But I’m not married to that specific way of utilizing local containers. So please feel free to recommend me something that’s at least as good.\n
      > - If I go for Emacs, then I will definitely rely on Evil.\n
      > - If possible, I would like to use it for C#, Python and Rust. Furthermore, I engage in editing Bash scripts, Dockerfiles, Linux config files, texts written in Latex and/or Markdown and other files written in Nix or JSON. As both are very extensible, I don’t expect any issues, but I might be wrong.\n
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      > **Questions:**\n
      > \n
      > - First of all, does it make sense for me to only consider these two?\n
      > - Can the split between Vim and Neovim be interpreted as the first schism and as such be a forebode for what’s yet to come?\n
      > - [Google Trends](https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%205-y&q=%2Fm%2F07zh7,%2Fg%2F11f3w6p14d,%2Fm%2F01yp0m&hl=en-US) suggests that Neo(Vim) is ever-popular. On the other hand; not only is Emacs relatively less popular, but its popularity seems to be slightly declining. Should this worry me regarding their long-time future? Especially considering that a thriving community is literally the lifeline for both of them.\n
      > - For those that have used both extensively, which one do you prefer (if any) and why?\n
      > - While I understand that the power of both of them lies primarily in how one can literally make them behave however suits their workflow best. Therefore, the use of premade configs and/or starter kits/distributions should (ideally) only be used either temporary or as a starting point. However, at this point, they provide a decent showcase of what each *‘platform’* has to offer. So: \n
      >     - Regarding Emacs; [Doom Emacs](https://github.com/doomemacs/doomemacs) or [Spacemacs](https://github.com/syl20bnr/spacemacs)? And why?\n
      >     - Regarding Neovim; there are a lot, but the big ones seem to be [AstroNvim](https://github.com/AstroNvim/AstroNvim), [LazyVim](https://github.com/LazyVim/LazyVim), [LunarVim](https://github.com/LunarVim/LunarVim) and [NvChad](https://github.com/NvChad/NvChad). Which one and why?
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          I use Emacs + spacemacs in VI mode as a base for all my text editing on both Linux and windows (which is unfortunately required for work on occasion) machines.\n
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          For dev environments I mostly use nix + direnv + direnv-mode.\n
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          For C# I use the above plus omnisharp-roslyn + lsp-mode.\n
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          > Or is the usage of Spacemacs primarily attributable to it coming earlier to the scene?\n
          \n
          Yeah, pretty much just that. If was to start again now I’d consider other options, but I have no serious complaints about spacemacs. I probably would have never got into Emacs at all if I had to start with vanilla.\n
          \n
          > Furthermore, as you’re using it in “VI mode”, would it be fair to assume that you’ve got some experience/history with Neo(Vim) as well? If so, what led you to making the switch from (Neo)Vim to Emacs?\n
          \n
          Yeah, I used VIM (and I still do when I’m in an unfamiliar environment), but only before neovim existed. IMO Lisp is what makes Emacs great, and vimscript is (was?) an absolute nightmare for anything complex. I don’t think lua is a bad language, but I’ll still take Lisp any day for this purpose.\n
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          \n
          What I described isn’t using containers. Nix just provides an environment for processes to run in, and direnv-mode ensures it’s using the right environment for a given buffer in Emacs. So for example I don’t have `OmniSharp` or `dotnet` in my user $PATH, but they are provided by the nix expression in a particular project directory. That allows lsp-mode to start `OmniSharp` as a language server, or I can run `dotnet build` using the Emacs `compile` command.\n
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          You can define containers with nix and manage them with `nixos-container`. I do that for testing server deployments, or running sandboxed services, but I’ve never needed something that complex for a dev shell.
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          > I assume this is due to the amount of effort that would have been required for it to acquire some of the functionality you were expecting out of it. Am I right?\n
          \n
          I didn’t really understand what Emacs was at the time, I just got fed up with trying to make vim into an IDE. Out of the box, spacemacs had good language support, modal editing, and looked ‘modern’.\n
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          What I love about Emacs now is Lisp and the package ecosystem. I have 396 packages installed, and many of them interact in quite complex ways. When I do a package upgrade it pretty much pulls the latest from the development branch of each package. Some packages haven’t been changed in 10 years, some are changed daily. It’s bleeding edge everything, and things don’t actually break that much. Lisp makes for (obviously IMO) beautiful, simple code, so most packages are a pleasure to fix, extend, or automate.\n
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          > I intend to put my teeth in GNU Guix at some point in the future.\n
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          Me too, but I nix has served me well, so I haven’t been motivated.
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          > I want to have a better idea for much time is spend on ‘management’; fix, extend and/or automate etc.\n
          \n
          Not that much really. I usually upgrade everything once a month or so. The last couple of times were smooth. I think the last problem I hit was:\n
          \n
          [github.com/emacs-lsp/lsp-mode/issues/4153](https://github.com/emacs-lsp/lsp-mode/issues/4153)\n
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          This was actually triggered by upgrading omnisharp, which started sending a new notification that lsp-mode didn’t explicitly ignore.\n
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          By the time I hit it, that issue had already been reported, so I was able to quickly work around it with a snippet in my main config. I could have also just rolled back omnisharp.\n
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          Most problems I’ve had have been solved by upgrading spacemacs to latest.
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      >     - However, I wonder to what degree a test as such would be representative when the likes of Emacs and (Neo)Vim are considered; both of which are known for being a life time learning process.\n
      > - I don’t literally expect Emacs or (Neo)Vim to be drop-in replacements for any IDE. Some of the most basic IDE-functions are absent by default and some (perhaps more advanced) functionality might simply not be attainable at all.\n
      > - I am not interested in anything that remotely resembles a flame war. The community at Lemmy has so far been very kind to me; let’s keep it that way 😜.\n
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      > - As such, I would like to have my developer environments local and have used [Distrobox](https://github.com/89luca89/distrobox) to that extent using steps similar to the ones outlined over [here](https://blog.niklas.tech/intellij-and-java-on-immutable-linux). But I’m not married to that specific way of utilizing local containers. So please feel free to recommend me something that’s at least as good.\n
      > - If I go for Emacs, then I will definitely rely on Evil.\n
      > - If possible, I would like to use it for C#, Python and Rust. Furthermore, I engage in editing Bash scripts, Dockerfiles, Linux config files, texts written in Latex and/or Markdown and other files written in Nix or JSON. As both are very extensible, I don’t expect any issues, but I might be wrong.\n
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      > - Can the split between Vim and Neovim be interpreted as the first schism and as such be a forebode for what’s yet to come?\n
      > - [Google Trends](https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%205-y&q=%2Fm%2F07zh7,%2Fg%2F11f3w6p14d,%2Fm%2F01yp0m&hl=en-US) suggests that Neo(Vim) is ever-popular. On the other hand; not only is Emacs relatively less popular, but its popularity seems to be slightly declining. Should this worry me regarding their long-time future? Especially considering that a thriving community is literally the lifeline for both of them.\n
      > - For those that have used both extensively, which one do you prefer (if any) and why?\n
      > - While I understand that the power of both of them lies primarily in how one can literally make them behave however suits their workflow best. Therefore, the use of premade configs and/or starter kits/distributions should (ideally) only be used either temporary or as a starting point. However, at this point, they provide a decent showcase of what each *‘platform’* has to offer. So: \n
      >     - Regarding Emacs; [Doom Emacs](https://github.com/doomemacs/doomemacs) or [Spacemacs](https://github.com/syl20bnr/spacemacs)? And why?\n
      >     - Regarding Neovim; there are a lot, but the big ones seem to be [AstroNvim](https://github.com/AstroNvim/AstroNvim), [LazyVim](https://github.com/LazyVim/LazyVim), [LunarVim](https://github.com/LunarVim/LunarVim) and [NvChad](https://github.com/NvChad/NvChad). Which one and why?
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          > Or is the usage of Spacemacs primarily attributable to it coming earlier to the scene?\n
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          > I assume this is due to the amount of effort that would have been required for it to acquire some of the functionality you were expecting out of it. Am I right?\n
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          > I want to have a better idea for much time is spend on ‘management’; fix, extend and/or automate etc.\n
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      > I would like to premise this with the following:\n
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      > - The best approach is probably just testing out each and every editor that interests me until I’ve found what works best for me. \n
      >     - However, I wonder to what degree a test as such would be representative when the likes of Emacs and (Neo)Vim are considered; both of which are known for being a life time learning process.\n
      > - I don’t literally expect Emacs or (Neo)Vim to be drop-in replacements for any IDE. Some of the most basic IDE-functions are absent by default and some (perhaps more advanced) functionality might simply not be attainable at all.\n
      > - I am not interested in anything that remotely resembles a flame war. The community at Lemmy has so far been very kind to me; let’s keep it that way 😜.\n
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      > **Motivation**\n
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      > I’ve had experiences with Atom, VS Code and some of Jetbrains’ IDEs like Pycharm and Rider. While I’ve been generally content with all of them, it leaves a bad taste in my mouth whenever I’m forced to switch IDEs because their lifetimes and/or lack of extensibility doesn’t allow me to responsibly continue using them. As such, I’m interested in a long time investment that will grow as I will. Both Emacs and (Neo)Vim have passed the test of time and I honestly don’t think they’ll cease to exist in the upcoming decades, that’s why I would love to start using either one of them.\n
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      > Furthermore, Vi(m) keybindings seem to be somewhat ubiquitous and almost any IDE offers some support. As such, improving my Vi(m)-game should only net-positive my productivity (at least eventually). Also, fluency will benefit me whenever I’m remote accessing any random server as they will always have Vi(m) installed. Thankfully, this doesn’t force me to use Vi(m) (or Neovim) just yet, because Emacs offers with Evil perhaps the single best Vi(m) implementation; outside of native Vi(m)*.\n
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      > - I’m on a custom image of [uBlue](https://ublue.it) using their [startingpoint](https://github.com/ublue-os/startingpoint) as template. For those unaware; an oversimplification would be that it is Fedora Silverblue with some extras.\n
      > - As such, I would like to have my developer environments local and have used [Distrobox](https://github.com/89luca89/distrobox) to that extent using steps similar to the ones outlined over [here](https://blog.niklas.tech/intellij-and-java-on-immutable-linux). But I’m not married to that specific way of utilizing local containers. So please feel free to recommend me something that’s at least as good.\n
      > - If I go for Emacs, then I will definitely rely on Evil.\n
      > - If possible, I would like to use it for C#, Python and Rust. Furthermore, I engage in editing Bash scripts, Dockerfiles, Linux config files, texts written in Latex and/or Markdown and other files written in Nix or JSON. As both are very extensible, I don’t expect any issues, but I might be wrong.\n
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      > **Questions:**\n
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      > - First of all, does it make sense for me to only consider these two?\n
      > - Can the split between Vim and Neovim be interpreted as the first schism and as such be a forebode for what’s yet to come?\n
      > - [Google Trends](https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%205-y&q=%2Fm%2F07zh7,%2Fg%2F11f3w6p14d,%2Fm%2F01yp0m&hl=en-US) suggests that Neo(Vim) is ever-popular. On the other hand; not only is Emacs relatively less popular, but its popularity seems to be slightly declining. Should this worry me regarding their long-time future? Especially considering that a thriving community is literally the lifeline for both of them.\n
      > - For those that have used both extensively, which one do you prefer (if any) and why?\n
      > - While I understand that the power of both of them lies primarily in how one can literally make them behave however suits their workflow best. Therefore, the use of premade configs and/or starter kits/distributions should (ideally) only be used either temporary or as a starting point. However, at this point, they provide a decent showcase of what each *‘platform’* has to offer. So: \n
      >     - Regarding Emacs; [Doom Emacs](https://github.com/doomemacs/doomemacs) or [Spacemacs](https://github.com/syl20bnr/spacemacs)? And why?\n
      >     - Regarding Neovim; there are a lot, but the big ones seem to be [AstroNvim](https://github.com/AstroNvim/AstroNvim), [LazyVim](https://github.com/LazyVim/LazyVim), [LunarVim](https://github.com/LunarVim/LunarVim) and [NvChad](https://github.com/NvChad/NvChad). Which one and why?
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          I use Emacs + spacemacs in VI mode as a base for all my text editing on both Linux and windows (which is unfortunately required for work on occasion) machines.\n
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          For dev environments I mostly use nix + direnv + direnv-mode.\n
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          For C# I use the above plus omnisharp-roslyn + lsp-mode.\n
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          > Or is the usage of Spacemacs primarily attributable to it coming earlier to the scene?\n
          \n
          Yeah, pretty much just that. If was to start again now I’d consider other options, but I have no serious complaints about spacemacs. I probably would have never got into Emacs at all if I had to start with vanilla.\n
          \n
          > Furthermore, as you’re using it in “VI mode”, would it be fair to assume that you’ve got some experience/history with Neo(Vim) as well? If so, what led you to making the switch from (Neo)Vim to Emacs?\n
          \n
          Yeah, I used VIM (and I still do when I’m in an unfamiliar environment), but only before neovim existed. IMO Lisp is what makes Emacs great, and vimscript is (was?) an absolute nightmare for anything complex. I don’t think lua is a bad language, but I’ll still take Lisp any day for this purpose.\n
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          \n
          What I described isn’t using containers. Nix just provides an environment for processes to run in, and direnv-mode ensures it’s using the right environment for a given buffer in Emacs. So for example I don’t have `OmniSharp` or `dotnet` in my user $PATH, but they are provided by the nix expression in a particular project directory. That allows lsp-mode to start `OmniSharp` as a language server, or I can run `dotnet build` using the Emacs `compile` command.\n
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          You can define containers with nix and manage them with `nixos-container`. I do that for testing server deployments, or running sandboxed services, but I’ve never needed something that complex for a dev shell.
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          > I assume this is due to the amount of effort that would have been required for it to acquire some of the functionality you were expecting out of it. Am I right?\n
          \n
          I didn’t really understand what Emacs was at the time, I just got fed up with trying to make vim into an IDE. Out of the box, spacemacs had good language support, modal editing, and looked ‘modern’.\n
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          What I love about Emacs now is Lisp and the package ecosystem. I have 396 packages installed, and many of them interact in quite complex ways. When I do a package upgrade it pretty much pulls the latest from the development branch of each package. Some packages haven’t been changed in 10 years, some are changed daily. It’s bleeding edge everything, and things don’t actually break that much. Lisp makes for (obviously IMO) beautiful, simple code, so most packages are a pleasure to fix, extend, or automate.\n
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          > I intend to put my teeth in GNU Guix at some point in the future.\n
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          Me too, but I nix has served me well, so I haven’t been motivated.
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          > I want to have a better idea for much time is spend on ‘management’; fix, extend and/or automate etc.\n
          \n
          Not that much really. I usually upgrade everything once a month or so. The last couple of times were smooth. I think the last problem I hit was:\n
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          [github.com/emacs-lsp/lsp-mode/issues/4153](https://github.com/emacs-lsp/lsp-mode/issues/4153)\n
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          This was actually triggered by upgrading omnisharp, which started sending a new notification that lsp-mode didn’t explicitly ignore.\n
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          By the time I hit it, that issue had already been reported, so I was able to quickly work around it with a snippet in my main config. I could have also just rolled back omnisharp.\n
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          Most problems I’ve had have been solved by upgrading spacemacs to latest.
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      >     - However, I wonder to what degree a test as such would be representative when the likes of Emacs and (Neo)Vim are considered; both of which are known for being a life time learning process.\n
      > - I don’t literally expect Emacs or (Neo)Vim to be drop-in replacements for any IDE. Some of the most basic IDE-functions are absent by default and some (perhaps more advanced) functionality might simply not be attainable at all.\n
      > - I am not interested in anything that remotely resembles a flame war. The community at Lemmy has so far been very kind to me; let’s keep it that way 😜.\n
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      > - As such, I would like to have my developer environments local and have used [Distrobox](https://github.com/89luca89/distrobox) to that extent using steps similar to the ones outlined over [here](https://blog.niklas.tech/intellij-and-java-on-immutable-linux). But I’m not married to that specific way of utilizing local containers. So please feel free to recommend me something that’s at least as good.\n
      > - If I go for Emacs, then I will definitely rely on Evil.\n
      > - If possible, I would like to use it for C#, Python and Rust. Furthermore, I engage in editing Bash scripts, Dockerfiles, Linux config files, texts written in Latex and/or Markdown and other files written in Nix or JSON. As both are very extensible, I don’t expect any issues, but I might be wrong.\n
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      > - Can the split between Vim and Neovim be interpreted as the first schism and as such be a forebode for what’s yet to come?\n
      > - [Google Trends](https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%205-y&q=%2Fm%2F07zh7,%2Fg%2F11f3w6p14d,%2Fm%2F01yp0m&hl=en-US) suggests that Neo(Vim) is ever-popular. On the other hand; not only is Emacs relatively less popular, but its popularity seems to be slightly declining. Should this worry me regarding their long-time future? Especially considering that a thriving community is literally the lifeline for both of them.\n
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      > - While I understand that the power of both of them lies primarily in how one can literally make them behave however suits their workflow best. Therefore, the use of premade configs and/or starter kits/distributions should (ideally) only be used either temporary or as a starting point. However, at this point, they provide a decent showcase of what each *‘platform’* has to offer. So: \n
      >     - Regarding Emacs; [Doom Emacs](https://github.com/doomemacs/doomemacs) or [Spacemacs](https://github.com/syl20bnr/spacemacs)? And why?\n
      >     - Regarding Neovim; there are a lot, but the big ones seem to be [AstroNvim](https://github.com/AstroNvim/AstroNvim), [LazyVim](https://github.com/LazyVim/LazyVim), [LunarVim](https://github.com/LunarVim/LunarVim) and [NvChad](https://github.com/NvChad/NvChad). Which one and why?
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          > Or is the usage of Spacemacs primarily attributable to it coming earlier to the scene?\n
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          What I described isn’t using containers. Nix just provides an environment for processes to run in, and direnv-mode ensures it’s using the right environment for a given buffer in Emacs. So for example I don’t have `OmniSharp` or `dotnet` in my user $PATH, but they are provided by the nix expression in a particular project directory. That allows lsp-mode to start `OmniSharp` as a language server, or I can run `dotnet build` using the Emacs `compile` command.\n
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          > I assume this is due to the amount of effort that would have been required for it to acquire some of the functionality you were expecting out of it. Am I right?\n
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          > I want to have a better idea for much time is spend on ‘management’; fix, extend and/or automate etc.\n
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          Not that much really. I usually upgrade everything once a month or so. The last couple of times were smooth. I think the last problem I hit was:\n
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          [github.com/emacs-lsp/lsp-mode/issues/4153](https://github.com/emacs-lsp/lsp-mode/issues/4153)\n
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      cross-posted from: [lemmy.ml/post/9648279](https://lemmy.ml/post/9648279)\n
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      > I would like to premise this with the following:\n
      > \n
      > - The best approach is probably just testing out each and every editor that interests me until I’ve found what works best for me. \n
      >     - However, I wonder to what degree a test as such would be representative when the likes of Emacs and (Neo)Vim are considered; both of which are known for being a life time learning process.\n
      > - I don’t literally expect Emacs or (Neo)Vim to be drop-in replacements for any IDE. Some of the most basic IDE-functions are absent by default and some (perhaps more advanced) functionality might simply not be attainable at all.\n
      > - I am not interested in anything that remotely resembles a flame war. The community at Lemmy has so far been very kind to me; let’s keep it that way 😜.\n
      > \n
      > ---\n
      > \n
      > **Motivation**\n
      > \n
      > I’ve had experiences with Atom, VS Code and some of Jetbrains’ IDEs like Pycharm and Rider. While I’ve been generally content with all of them, it leaves a bad taste in my mouth whenever I’m forced to switch IDEs because their lifetimes and/or lack of extensibility doesn’t allow me to responsibly continue using them. As such, I’m interested in a long time investment that will grow as I will. Both Emacs and (Neo)Vim have passed the test of time and I honestly don’t think they’ll cease to exist in the upcoming decades, that’s why I would love to start using either one of them.\n
      > \n
      > Furthermore, Vi(m) keybindings seem to be somewhat ubiquitous and almost any IDE offers some support. As such, improving my Vi(m)-game should only net-positive my productivity (at least eventually). Also, fluency will benefit me whenever I’m remote accessing any random server as they will always have Vi(m) installed. Thankfully, this doesn’t force me to use Vi(m) (or Neovim) just yet, because Emacs offers with Evil perhaps the single best Vi(m) implementation; outside of native Vi(m)*.\n
      > \n
      > **My setup:**\n
      > \n
      > - I’m on a custom image of [uBlue](https://ublue.it) using their [startingpoint](https://github.com/ublue-os/startingpoint) as template. For those unaware; an oversimplification would be that it is Fedora Silverblue with some extras.\n
      > - As such, I would like to have my developer environments local and have used [Distrobox](https://github.com/89luca89/distrobox) to that extent using steps similar to the ones outlined over [here](https://blog.niklas.tech/intellij-and-java-on-immutable-linux). But I’m not married to that specific way of utilizing local containers. So please feel free to recommend me something that’s at least as good.\n
      > - If I go for Emacs, then I will definitely rely on Evil.\n
      > - If possible, I would like to use it for C#, Python and Rust. Furthermore, I engage in editing Bash scripts, Dockerfiles, Linux config files, texts written in Latex and/or Markdown and other files written in Nix or JSON. As both are very extensible, I don’t expect any issues, but I might be wrong.\n
      > \n
      > **Questions:**\n
      > \n
      > - First of all, does it make sense for me to only consider these two?\n
      > - Can the split between Vim and Neovim be interpreted as the first schism and as such be a forebode for what’s yet to come?\n
      > - [Google Trends](https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%205-y&q=%2Fm%2F07zh7,%2Fg%2F11f3w6p14d,%2Fm%2F01yp0m&hl=en-US) suggests that Neo(Vim) is ever-popular. On the other hand; not only is Emacs relatively less popular, but its popularity seems to be slightly declining. Should this worry me regarding their long-time future? Especially considering that a thriving community is literally the lifeline for both of them.\n
      > - For those that have used both extensively, which one do you prefer (if any) and why?\n
      > - While I understand that the power of both of them lies primarily in how one can literally make them behave however suits their workflow best. Therefore, the use of premade configs and/or starter kits/distributions should (ideally) only be used either temporary or as a starting point. However, at this point, they provide a decent showcase of what each *‘platform’* has to offer. So: \n
      >     - Regarding Emacs; [Doom Emacs](https://github.com/doomemacs/doomemacs) or [Spacemacs](https://github.com/syl20bnr/spacemacs)? And why?\n
      >     - Regarding Neovim; there are a lot, but the big ones seem to be [AstroNvim](https://github.com/AstroNvim/AstroNvim), [LazyVim](https://github.com/LazyVim/LazyVim), [LunarVim](https://github.com/LunarVim/LunarVim) and [NvChad](https://github.com/NvChad/NvChad). Which one and why?
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          I use Emacs + spacemacs in VI mode as a base for all my text editing on both Linux and windows (which is unfortunately required for work on occasion) machines.\n
          \n
          For dev environments I mostly use nix + direnv + direnv-mode.\n
          \n
          For C# I use the above plus omnisharp-roslyn + lsp-mode.\n
          \n
          I tinker in all sorts of languages, and they all have at least basic support in the Emacs ecosystem. The popular ones should have fully functional language servers and debugger adapters.
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          > Or is the usage of Spacemacs primarily attributable to it coming earlier to the scene?\n
          \n
          Yeah, pretty much just that. If was to start again now I’d consider other options, but I have no serious complaints about spacemacs. I probably would have never got into Emacs at all if I had to start with vanilla.\n
          \n
          > Furthermore, as you’re using it in “VI mode”, would it be fair to assume that you’ve got some experience/history with Neo(Vim) as well? If so, what led you to making the switch from (Neo)Vim to Emacs?\n
          \n
          Yeah, I used VIM (and I still do when I’m in an unfamiliar environment), but only before neovim existed. IMO Lisp is what makes Emacs great, and vimscript is (was?) an absolute nightmare for anything complex. I don’t think lua is a bad language, but I’ll still take Lisp any day for this purpose.\n
          \n
          > I’ve also got my concerns related to what degree the containers can be sandboxed. Do you happen to have some insights on this?\n
          \n
          What I described isn’t using containers. Nix just provides an environment for processes to run in, and direnv-mode ensures it’s using the right environment for a given buffer in Emacs. So for example I don’t have `OmniSharp` or `dotnet` in my user $PATH, but they are provided by the nix expression in a particular project directory. That allows lsp-mode to start `OmniSharp` as a language server, or I can run `dotnet build` using the Emacs `compile` command.\n
          \n
          You can define containers with nix and manage them with `nixos-container`. I do that for testing server deployments, or running sandboxed services, but I’ve never needed something that complex for a dev shell.
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          > I assume this is due to the amount of effort that would have been required for it to acquire some of the functionality you were expecting out of it. Am I right?\n
          \n
          I didn’t really understand what Emacs was at the time, I just got fed up with trying to make vim into an IDE. Out of the box, spacemacs had good language support, modal editing, and looked ‘modern’.\n
          \n
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          > I intend to put my teeth in GNU Guix at some point in the future.\n
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          Me too, but I nix has served me well, so I haven’t been motivated.
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          > I want to have a better idea for much time is spend on ‘management’; fix, extend and/or automate etc.\n
          \n
          Not that much really. I usually upgrade everything once a month or so. The last couple of times were smooth. I think the last problem I hit was:\n
          \n
          [github.com/emacs-lsp/lsp-mode/issues/4153](https://github.com/emacs-lsp/lsp-mode/issues/4153)\n
          \n
          This was actually triggered by upgrading omnisharp, which started sending a new notification that lsp-mode didn’t explicitly ignore.\n
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          By the time I hit it, that issue had already been reported, so I was able to quickly work around it with a snippet in my main config. I could have also just rolled back omnisharp.\n
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          Most problems I’ve had have been solved by upgrading spacemacs to latest.
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      >     - However, I wonder to what degree a test as such would be representative when the likes of Emacs and (Neo)Vim are considered; both of which are known for being a life time learning process.\n
      > - I don’t literally expect Emacs or (Neo)Vim to be drop-in replacements for any IDE. Some of the most basic IDE-functions are absent by default and some (perhaps more advanced) functionality might simply not be attainable at all.\n
      > - I am not interested in anything that remotely resembles a flame war. The community at Lemmy has so far been very kind to me; let’s keep it that way 😜.\n
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      > - If possible, I would like to use it for C#, Python and Rust. Furthermore, I engage in editing Bash scripts, Dockerfiles, Linux config files, texts written in Latex and/or Markdown and other files written in Nix or JSON. As both are very extensible, I don’t expect any issues, but I might be wrong.\n
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      > - [Google Trends](https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%205-y&q=%2Fm%2F07zh7,%2Fg%2F11f3w6p14d,%2Fm%2F01yp0m&hl=en-US) suggests that Neo(Vim) is ever-popular. On the other hand; not only is Emacs relatively less popular, but its popularity seems to be slightly declining. Should this worry me regarding their long-time future? Especially considering that a thriving community is literally the lifeline for both of them.\n
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      > - While I understand that the power of both of them lies primarily in how one can literally make them behave however suits their workflow best. Therefore, the use of premade configs and/or starter kits/distributions should (ideally) only be used either temporary or as a starting point. However, at this point, they provide a decent showcase of what each *‘platform’* has to offer. So: \n
      >     - Regarding Emacs; [Doom Emacs](https://github.com/doomemacs/doomemacs) or [Spacemacs](https://github.com/syl20bnr/spacemacs)? And why?\n
      >     - Regarding Neovim; there are a lot, but the big ones seem to be [AstroNvim](https://github.com/AstroNvim/AstroNvim), [LazyVim](https://github.com/LazyVim/LazyVim), [LunarVim](https://github.com/LunarVim/LunarVim) and [NvChad](https://github.com/NvChad/NvChad). Which one and why?
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          I use Emacs + spacemacs in VI mode as a base for all my text editing on both Linux and windows (which is unfortunately required for work on occasion) machines.\n
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          For dev environments I mostly use nix + direnv + direnv-mode.\n
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          > Or is the usage of Spacemacs primarily attributable to it coming earlier to the scene?\n
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          > Furthermore, as you’re using it in “VI mode”, would it be fair to assume that you’ve got some experience/history with Neo(Vim) as well? If so, what led you to making the switch from (Neo)Vim to Emacs?\n
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          What I described isn’t using containers. Nix just provides an environment for processes to run in, and direnv-mode ensures it’s using the right environment for a given buffer in Emacs. So for example I don’t have `OmniSharp` or `dotnet` in my user $PATH, but they are provided by the nix expression in a particular project directory. That allows lsp-mode to start `OmniSharp` as a language server, or I can run `dotnet build` using the Emacs `compile` command.\n
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          You can define containers with nix and manage them with `nixos-container`. I do that for testing server deployments, or running sandboxed services, but I’ve never needed something that complex for a dev shell.
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          > I assume this is due to the amount of effort that would have been required for it to acquire some of the functionality you were expecting out of it. Am I right?\n
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          > I want to have a better idea for much time is spend on ‘management’; fix, extend and/or automate etc.\n
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          Not that much really. I usually upgrade everything once a month or so. The last couple of times were smooth. I think the last problem I hit was:\n
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        cross-posted from: [lemmy.ml/post/9648279](https://lemmy.ml/post/9648279)\n
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        > I would like to premise this with the following:\n
        > \n
        > - The best approach is probably just testing out each and every editor that interests me until I’ve found what works best for me. \n
        >     - However, I wonder to what degree a test as such would be representative when the likes of Emacs and (Neo)Vim are considered; both of which are known for being a life time learning process.\n
        > - I don’t literally expect Emacs or (Neo)Vim to be drop-in replacements for any IDE. Some of the most basic IDE-functions are absent by default and some (perhaps more advanced) functionality might simply not be attainable at all.\n
        > - I am not interested in anything that remotely resembles a flame war. The community at Lemmy has so far been very kind to me; let’s keep it that way 😜.\n
        > \n
        > ---\n
        > \n
        > **Motivation**\n
        > \n
        > I’ve had experiences with Atom, VS Code and some of Jetbrains’ IDEs like Pycharm and Rider. While I’ve been generally content with all of them, it leaves a bad taste in my mouth whenever I’m forced to switch IDEs because their lifetimes and/or lack of extensibility doesn’t allow me to responsibly continue using them. As such, I’m interested in a long time investment that will grow as I will. Both Emacs and (Neo)Vim have passed the test of time and I honestly don’t think they’ll cease to exist in the upcoming decades, that’s why I would love to start using either one of them.\n
        > \n
        > Furthermore, Vi(m) keybindings seem to be somewhat ubiquitous and almost any IDE offers some support. As such, improving my Vi(m)-game should only net-positive my productivity (at least eventually). Also, fluency will benefit me whenever I’m remote accessing any random server as they will always have Vi(m) installed. Thankfully, this doesn’t force me to use Vi(m) (or Neovim) just yet, because Emacs offers with Evil perhaps the single best Vi(m) implementation; outside of native Vi(m)*.\n
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        > **My setup:**\n
        > \n
        > - I’m on a custom image of [uBlue](https://ublue.it) using their [startingpoint](https://github.com/ublue-os/startingpoint) as template. For those unaware; an oversimplification would be that it is Fedora Silverblue with some extras.\n
        > - As such, I would like to have my developer environments local and have used [Distrobox](https://github.com/89luca89/distrobox) to that extent using steps similar to the ones outlined over [here](https://blog.niklas.tech/intellij-and-java-on-immutable-linux). But I’m not married to that specific way of utilizing local containers. So please feel free to recommend me something that’s at least as good.\n
        > - If I go for Emacs, then I will definitely rely on Evil.\n
        > - If possible, I would like to use it for C#, Python and Rust. Furthermore, I engage in editing Bash scripts, Dockerfiles, Linux config files, texts written in Latex and/or Markdown and other files written in Nix or JSON. As both are very extensible, I don’t expect any issues, but I might be wrong.\n
        > \n
        > **Questions:**\n
        > \n
        > - First of all, does it make sense for me to only consider these two?\n
        > - Can the split between Vim and Neovim be interpreted as the first schism and as such be a forebode for what’s yet to come?\n
        > - [Google Trends](https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%205-y&q=%2Fm%2F07zh7,%2Fg%2F11f3w6p14d,%2Fm%2F01yp0m&hl=en-US) suggests that Neo(Vim) is ever-popular. On the other hand; not only is Emacs relatively less popular, but its popularity seems to be slightly declining. Should this worry me regarding their long-time future? Especially considering that a thriving community is literally the lifeline for both of them.\n
        > - For those that have used both extensively, which one do you prefer (if any) and why?\n
        > - While I understand that the power of both of them lies primarily in how one can literally make them behave however suits their workflow best. Therefore, the use of premade configs and/or starter kits/distributions should (ideally) only be used either temporary or as a starting point. However, at this point, they provide a decent showcase of what each *‘platform’* has to offer. So: \n
        >     - Regarding Emacs; [Doom Emacs](https://github.com/doomemacs/doomemacs) or [Spacemacs](https://github.com/syl20bnr/spacemacs)? And why?\n
        >     - Regarding Neovim; there are a lot, but the big ones seem to be [AstroNvim](https://github.com/AstroNvim/AstroNvim), [LazyVim](https://github.com/LazyVim/LazyVim), [LunarVim](https://github.com/LunarVim/LunarVim) and [NvChad](https://github.com/NvChad/NvChad). Which one and why?
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            > Or is the usage of Spacemacs primarily attributable to it coming earlier to the scene?\n
            \n
            Yeah, pretty much just that. If was to start again now I’d consider other options, but I have no serious complaints about spacemacs. I probably would have never got into Emacs at all if I had to start with vanilla.\n
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            > Furthermore, as you’re using it in “VI mode”, would it be fair to assume that you’ve got some experience/history with Neo(Vim) as well? If so, what led you to making the switch from (Neo)Vim to Emacs?\n
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            Yeah, I used VIM (and I still do when I’m in an unfamiliar environment), but only before neovim existed. IMO Lisp is what makes Emacs great, and vimscript is (was?) an absolute nightmare for anything complex. I don’t think lua is a bad language, but I’ll still take Lisp any day for this purpose.\n
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            > I’ve also got my concerns related to what degree the containers can be sandboxed. Do you happen to have some insights on this?\n
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            What I described isn’t using containers. Nix just provides an environment for processes to run in, and direnv-mode ensures it’s using the right environment for a given buffer in Emacs. So for example I don’t have `OmniSharp` or `dotnet` in my user $PATH, but they are provided by the nix expression in a particular project directory. That allows lsp-mode to start `OmniSharp` as a language server, or I can run `dotnet build` using the Emacs `compile` command.\n
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            You can define containers with nix and manage them with `nixos-container`. I do that for testing server deployments, or running sandboxed services, but I’ve never needed something that complex for a dev shell.
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            > I assume this is due to the amount of effort that would have been required for it to acquire some of the functionality you were expecting out of it. Am I right?\n
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            I didn’t really understand what Emacs was at the time, I just got fed up with trying to make vim into an IDE. Out of the box, spacemacs had good language support, modal editing, and looked ‘modern’.\n
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            > I intend to put my teeth in GNU Guix at some point in the future.\n
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            Me too, but I nix has served me well, so I haven’t been motivated.
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            > I want to have a better idea for much time is spend on ‘management’; fix, extend and/or automate etc.\n
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            Not that much really. I usually upgrade everything once a month or so. The last couple of times were smooth. I think the last problem I hit was:\n
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            [github.com/emacs-lsp/lsp-mode/issues/4153](https://github.com/emacs-lsp/lsp-mode/issues/4153)\n
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            This was actually triggered by upgrading omnisharp, which started sending a new notification that lsp-mode didn’t explicitly ignore.\n
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            By the time I hit it, that issue had already been reported, so I was able to quickly work around it with a snippet in my main config. I could have also just rolled back omnisharp.\n
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            Most problems I’ve had have been solved by upgrading spacemacs to latest.
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        > I would like to premise this with the following:\n
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        > - The best approach is probably just testing out each and every editor that interests me until I’ve found what works best for me. \n
        >     - However, I wonder to what degree a test as such would be representative when the likes of Emacs and (Neo)Vim are considered; both of which are known for being a life time learning process.\n
        > - I don’t literally expect Emacs or (Neo)Vim to be drop-in replacements for any IDE. Some of the most basic IDE-functions are absent by default and some (perhaps more advanced) functionality might simply not be attainable at all.\n
        > - I am not interested in anything that remotely resembles a flame war. The community at Lemmy has so far been very kind to me; let’s keep it that way 😜.\n
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        > Furthermore, Vi(m) keybindings seem to be somewhat ubiquitous and almost any IDE offers some support. As such, improving my Vi(m)-game should only net-positive my productivity (at least eventually). Also, fluency will benefit me whenever I’m remote accessing any random server as they will always have Vi(m) installed. Thankfully, this doesn’t force me to use Vi(m) (or Neovim) just yet, because Emacs offers with Evil perhaps the single best Vi(m) implementation; outside of native Vi(m)*.\n
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        > **My setup:**\n
        > \n
        > - I’m on a custom image of [uBlue](https://ublue.it) using their [startingpoint](https://github.com/ublue-os/startingpoint) as template. For those unaware; an oversimplification would be that it is Fedora Silverblue with some extras.\n
        > - As such, I would like to have my developer environments local and have used [Distrobox](https://github.com/89luca89/distrobox) to that extent using steps similar to the ones outlined over [here](https://blog.niklas.tech/intellij-and-java-on-immutable-linux). But I’m not married to that specific way of utilizing local containers. So please feel free to recommend me something that’s at least as good.\n
        > - If I go for Emacs, then I will definitely rely on Evil.\n
        > - If possible, I would like to use it for C#, Python and Rust. Furthermore, I engage in editing Bash scripts, Dockerfiles, Linux config files, texts written in Latex and/or Markdown and other files written in Nix or JSON. As both are very extensible, I don’t expect any issues, but I might be wrong.\n
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        > **Questions:**\n
        > \n
        > - First of all, does it make sense for me to only consider these two?\n
        > - Can the split between Vim and Neovim be interpreted as the first schism and as such be a forebode for what’s yet to come?\n
        > - [Google Trends](https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%205-y&q=%2Fm%2F07zh7,%2Fg%2F11f3w6p14d,%2Fm%2F01yp0m&hl=en-US) suggests that Neo(Vim) is ever-popular. On the other hand; not only is Emacs relatively less popular, but its popularity seems to be slightly declining. Should this worry me regarding their long-time future? Especially considering that a thriving community is literally the lifeline for both of them.\n
        > - For those that have used both extensively, which one do you prefer (if any) and why?\n
        > - While I understand that the power of both of them lies primarily in how one can literally make them behave however suits their workflow best. Therefore, the use of premade configs and/or starter kits/distributions should (ideally) only be used either temporary or as a starting point. However, at this point, they provide a decent showcase of what each *‘platform’* has to offer. So: \n
        >     - Regarding Emacs; [Doom Emacs](https://github.com/doomemacs/doomemacs) or [Spacemacs](https://github.com/syl20bnr/spacemacs)? And why?\n
        >     - Regarding Neovim; there are a lot, but the big ones seem to be [AstroNvim](https://github.com/AstroNvim/AstroNvim), [LazyVim](https://github.com/LazyVim/LazyVim), [LunarVim](https://github.com/LunarVim/LunarVim) and [NvChad](https://github.com/NvChad/NvChad). Which one and why?
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            > Or is the usage of Spacemacs primarily attributable to it coming earlier to the scene?\n
            \n
            Yeah, pretty much just that. If was to start again now I’d consider other options, but I have no serious complaints about spacemacs. I probably would have never got into Emacs at all if I had to start with vanilla.\n
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            > Furthermore, as you’re using it in “VI mode”, would it be fair to assume that you’ve got some experience/history with Neo(Vim) as well? If so, what led you to making the switch from (Neo)Vim to Emacs?\n
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            Yeah, I used VIM (and I still do when I’m in an unfamiliar environment), but only before neovim existed. IMO Lisp is what makes Emacs great, and vimscript is (was?) an absolute nightmare for anything complex. I don’t think lua is a bad language, but I’ll still take Lisp any day for this purpose.\n
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            What I described isn’t using containers. Nix just provides an environment for processes to run in, and direnv-mode ensures it’s using the right environment for a given buffer in Emacs. So for example I don’t have `OmniSharp` or `dotnet` in my user $PATH, but they are provided by the nix expression in a particular project directory. That allows lsp-mode to start `OmniSharp` as a language server, or I can run `dotnet build` using the Emacs `compile` command.\n
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            > I assume this is due to the amount of effort that would have been required for it to acquire some of the functionality you were expecting out of it. Am I right?\n
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            I didn’t really understand what Emacs was at the time, I just got fed up with trying to make vim into an IDE. Out of the box, spacemacs had good language support, modal editing, and looked ‘modern’.\n
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            > I intend to put my teeth in GNU Guix at some point in the future.\n
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            Me too, but I nix has served me well, so I haven’t been motivated.
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            > I want to have a better idea for much time is spend on ‘management’; fix, extend and/or automate etc.\n
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            Not that much really. I usually upgrade everything once a month or so. The last couple of times were smooth. I think the last problem I hit was:\n
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            This was actually triggered by upgrading omnisharp, which started sending a new notification that lsp-mode didn’t explicitly ignore.\n
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            By the time I hit it, that issue had already been reported, so I was able to quickly work around it with a snippet in my main config. I could have also just rolled back omnisharp.\n
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            Most problems I’ve had have been solved by upgrading spacemacs to latest.
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        cross-posted from: [lemmy.ml/post/9648279](https://lemmy.ml/post/9648279)\n
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        > I would like to premise this with the following:\n
        > \n
        > - The best approach is probably just testing out each and every editor that interests me until I’ve found what works best for me. \n
        >     - However, I wonder to what degree a test as such would be representative when the likes of Emacs and (Neo)Vim are considered; both of which are known for being a life time learning process.\n
        > - I don’t literally expect Emacs or (Neo)Vim to be drop-in replacements for any IDE. Some of the most basic IDE-functions are absent by default and some (perhaps more advanced) functionality might simply not be attainable at all.\n
        > - I am not interested in anything that remotely resembles a flame war. The community at Lemmy has so far been very kind to me; let’s keep it that way 😜.\n
        > \n
        > ---\n
        > \n
        > **Motivation**\n
        > \n
        > I’ve had experiences with Atom, VS Code and some of Jetbrains’ IDEs like Pycharm and Rider. While I’ve been generally content with all of them, it leaves a bad taste in my mouth whenever I’m forced to switch IDEs because their lifetimes and/or lack of extensibility doesn’t allow me to responsibly continue using them. As such, I’m interested in a long time investment that will grow as I will. Both Emacs and (Neo)Vim have passed the test of time and I honestly don’t think they’ll cease to exist in the upcoming decades, that’s why I would love to start using either one of them.\n
        > \n
        > Furthermore, Vi(m) keybindings seem to be somewhat ubiquitous and almost any IDE offers some support. As such, improving my Vi(m)-game should only net-positive my productivity (at least eventually). Also, fluency will benefit me whenever I’m remote accessing any random server as they will always have Vi(m) installed. Thankfully, this doesn’t force me to use Vi(m) (or Neovim) just yet, because Emacs offers with Evil perhaps the single best Vi(m) implementation; outside of native Vi(m)*.\n
        > \n
        > **My setup:**\n
        > \n
        > - I’m on a custom image of [uBlue](https://ublue.it) using their [startingpoint](https://github.com/ublue-os/startingpoint) as template. For those unaware; an oversimplification would be that it is Fedora Silverblue with some extras.\n
        > - As such, I would like to have my developer environments local and have used [Distrobox](https://github.com/89luca89/distrobox) to that extent using steps similar to the ones outlined over [here](https://blog.niklas.tech/intellij-and-java-on-immutable-linux). But I’m not married to that specific way of utilizing local containers. So please feel free to recommend me something that’s at least as good.\n
        > - If I go for Emacs, then I will definitely rely on Evil.\n
        > - If possible, I would like to use it for C#, Python and Rust. Furthermore, I engage in editing Bash scripts, Dockerfiles, Linux config files, texts written in Latex and/or Markdown and other files written in Nix or JSON. As both are very extensible, I don’t expect any issues, but I might be wrong.\n
        > \n
        > **Questions:**\n
        > \n
        > - First of all, does it make sense for me to only consider these two?\n
        > - Can the split between Vim and Neovim be interpreted as the first schism and as such be a forebode for what’s yet to come?\n
        > - [Google Trends](https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%205-y&q=%2Fm%2F07zh7,%2Fg%2F11f3w6p14d,%2Fm%2F01yp0m&hl=en-US) suggests that Neo(Vim) is ever-popular. On the other hand; not only is Emacs relatively less popular, but its popularity seems to be slightly declining. Should this worry me regarding their long-time future? Especially considering that a thriving community is literally the lifeline for both of them.\n
        > - For those that have used both extensively, which one do you prefer (if any) and why?\n
        > - While I understand that the power of both of them lies primarily in how one can literally make them behave however suits their workflow best. Therefore, the use of premade configs and/or starter kits/distributions should (ideally) only be used either temporary or as a starting point. However, at this point, they provide a decent showcase of what each *‘platform’* has to offer. So: \n
        >     - Regarding Emacs; [Doom Emacs](https://github.com/doomemacs/doomemacs) or [Spacemacs](https://github.com/syl20bnr/spacemacs)? And why?\n
        >     - Regarding Neovim; there are a lot, but the big ones seem to be [AstroNvim](https://github.com/AstroNvim/AstroNvim), [LazyVim](https://github.com/LazyVim/LazyVim), [LunarVim](https://github.com/LunarVim/LunarVim) and [NvChad](https://github.com/NvChad/NvChad). Which one and why?
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            > Or is the usage of Spacemacs primarily attributable to it coming earlier to the scene?\n
            \n
            Yeah, pretty much just that. If was to start again now I’d consider other options, but I have no serious complaints about spacemacs. I probably would have never got into Emacs at all if I had to start with vanilla.\n
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            > Furthermore, as you’re using it in “VI mode”, would it be fair to assume that you’ve got some experience/history with Neo(Vim) as well? If so, what led you to making the switch from (Neo)Vim to Emacs?\n
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            Yeah, I used VIM (and I still do when I’m in an unfamiliar environment), but only before neovim existed. IMO Lisp is what makes Emacs great, and vimscript is (was?) an absolute nightmare for anything complex. I don’t think lua is a bad language, but I’ll still take Lisp any day for this purpose.\n
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            What I described isn’t using containers. Nix just provides an environment for processes to run in, and direnv-mode ensures it’s using the right environment for a given buffer in Emacs. So for example I don’t have `OmniSharp` or `dotnet` in my user $PATH, but they are provided by the nix expression in a particular project directory. That allows lsp-mode to start `OmniSharp` as a language server, or I can run `dotnet build` using the Emacs `compile` command.\n
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            You can define containers with nix and manage them with `nixos-container`. I do that for testing server deployments, or running sandboxed services, but I’ve never needed something that complex for a dev shell.
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            > I assume this is due to the amount of effort that would have been required for it to acquire some of the functionality you were expecting out of it. Am I right?\n
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            I didn’t really understand what Emacs was at the time, I just got fed up with trying to make vim into an IDE. Out of the box, spacemacs had good language support, modal editing, and looked ‘modern’.\n
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            > I want to have a better idea for much time is spend on ‘management’; fix, extend and/or automate etc.\n
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            Not that much really. I usually upgrade everything once a month or so. The last couple of times were smooth. I think the last problem I hit was:\n
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            [github.com/emacs-lsp/lsp-mode/issues/4153](https://github.com/emacs-lsp/lsp-mode/issues/4153)\n
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            This was actually triggered by upgrading omnisharp, which started sending a new notification that lsp-mode didn’t explicitly ignore.\n
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            By the time I hit it, that issue had already been reported, so I was able to quickly work around it with a snippet in my main config. I could have also just rolled back omnisharp.\n
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            Most problems I’ve had have been solved by upgrading spacemacs to latest.
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        cross-posted from: [lemmy.ml/post/9648279](https://lemmy.ml/post/9648279)\n
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        > I would like to premise this with the following:\n
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        > - The best approach is probably just testing out each and every editor that interests me until I’ve found what works best for me. \n
        >     - However, I wonder to what degree a test as such would be representative when the likes of Emacs and (Neo)Vim are considered; both of which are known for being a life time learning process.\n
        > - I don’t literally expect Emacs or (Neo)Vim to be drop-in replacements for any IDE. Some of the most basic IDE-functions are absent by default and some (perhaps more advanced) functionality might simply not be attainable at all.\n
        > - I am not interested in anything that remotely resembles a flame war. The community at Lemmy has so far been very kind to me; let’s keep it that way 😜.\n
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        > **Motivation**\n
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        > I’ve had experiences with Atom, VS Code and some of Jetbrains’ IDEs like Pycharm and Rider. While I’ve been generally content with all of them, it leaves a bad taste in my mouth whenever I’m forced to switch IDEs because their lifetimes and/or lack of extensibility doesn’t allow me to responsibly continue using them. As such, I’m interested in a long time investment that will grow as I will. Both Emacs and (Neo)Vim have passed the test of time and I honestly don’t think they’ll cease to exist in the upcoming decades, that’s why I would love to start using either one of them.\n
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        > Furthermore, Vi(m) keybindings seem to be somewhat ubiquitous and almost any IDE offers some support. As such, improving my Vi(m)-game should only net-positive my productivity (at least eventually). Also, fluency will benefit me whenever I’m remote accessing any random server as they will always have Vi(m) installed. Thankfully, this doesn’t force me to use Vi(m) (or Neovim) just yet, because Emacs offers with Evil perhaps the single best Vi(m) implementation; outside of native Vi(m)*.\n
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        > **My setup:**\n
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        > - I’m on a custom image of [uBlue](https://ublue.it) using their [startingpoint](https://github.com/ublue-os/startingpoint) as template. For those unaware; an oversimplification would be that it is Fedora Silverblue with some extras.\n
        > - As such, I would like to have my developer environments local and have used [Distrobox](https://github.com/89luca89/distrobox) to that extent using steps similar to the ones outlined over [here](https://blog.niklas.tech/intellij-and-java-on-immutable-linux). But I’m not married to that specific way of utilizing local containers. So please feel free to recommend me something that’s at least as good.\n
        > - If I go for Emacs, then I will definitely rely on Evil.\n
        > - If possible, I would like to use it for C#, Python and Rust. Furthermore, I engage in editing Bash scripts, Dockerfiles, Linux config files, texts written in Latex and/or Markdown and other files written in Nix or JSON. As both are very extensible, I don’t expect any issues, but I might be wrong.\n
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        > - First of all, does it make sense for me to only consider these two?\n
        > - Can the split between Vim and Neovim be interpreted as the first schism and as such be a forebode for what’s yet to come?\n
        > - [Google Trends](https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%205-y&q=%2Fm%2F07zh7,%2Fg%2F11f3w6p14d,%2Fm%2F01yp0m&hl=en-US) suggests that Neo(Vim) is ever-popular. On the other hand; not only is Emacs relatively less popular, but its popularity seems to be slightly declining. Should this worry me regarding their long-time future? Especially considering that a thriving community is literally the lifeline for both of them.\n
        > - For those that have used both extensively, which one do you prefer (if any) and why?\n
        > - While I understand that the power of both of them lies primarily in how one can literally make them behave however suits their workflow best. Therefore, the use of premade configs and/or starter kits/distributions should (ideally) only be used either temporary or as a starting point. However, at this point, they provide a decent showcase of what each *‘platform’* has to offer. So: \n
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        >     - Regarding Neovim; there are a lot, but the big ones seem to be [AstroNvim](https://github.com/AstroNvim/AstroNvim), [LazyVim](https://github.com/LazyVim/LazyVim), [LunarVim](https://github.com/LunarVim/LunarVim) and [NvChad](https://github.com/NvChad/NvChad). Which one and why?
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            > Or is the usage of Spacemacs primarily attributable to it coming earlier to the scene?\n
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            Yeah, pretty much just that. If was to start again now I’d consider other options, but I have no serious complaints about spacemacs. I probably would have never got into Emacs at all if I had to start with vanilla.\n
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            > I assume this is due to the amount of effort that would have been required for it to acquire some of the functionality you were expecting out of it. Am I right?\n
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            > I want to have a better idea for much time is spend on ‘management’; fix, extend and/or automate etc.\n
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        cross-posted from: [lemmy.ml/post/9648279](https://lemmy.ml/post/9648279)\n
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        > I would like to premise this with the following:\n
        > \n
        > - The best approach is probably just testing out each and every editor that interests me until I’ve found what works best for me. \n
        >     - However, I wonder to what degree a test as such would be representative when the likes of Emacs and (Neo)Vim are considered; both of which are known for being a life time learning process.\n
        > - I don’t literally expect Emacs or (Neo)Vim to be drop-in replacements for any IDE. Some of the most basic IDE-functions are absent by default and some (perhaps more advanced) functionality might simply not be attainable at all.\n
        > - I am not interested in anything that remotely resembles a flame war. The community at Lemmy has so far been very kind to me; let’s keep it that way 😜.\n
        > \n
        > ---\n
        > \n
        > **Motivation**\n
        > \n
        > I’ve had experiences with Atom, VS Code and some of Jetbrains’ IDEs like Pycharm and Rider. While I’ve been generally content with all of them, it leaves a bad taste in my mouth whenever I’m forced to switch IDEs because their lifetimes and/or lack of extensibility doesn’t allow me to responsibly continue using them. As such, I’m interested in a long time investment that will grow as I will. Both Emacs and (Neo)Vim have passed the test of time and I honestly don’t think they’ll cease to exist in the upcoming decades, that’s why I would love to start using either one of them.\n
        > \n
        > Furthermore, Vi(m) keybindings seem to be somewhat ubiquitous and almost any IDE offers some support. As such, improving my Vi(m)-game should only net-positive my productivity (at least eventually). Also, fluency will benefit me whenever I’m remote accessing any random server as they will always have Vi(m) installed. Thankfully, this doesn’t force me to use Vi(m) (or Neovim) just yet, because Emacs offers with Evil perhaps the single best Vi(m) implementation; outside of native Vi(m)*.\n
        > \n
        > **My setup:**\n
        > \n
        > - I’m on a custom image of [uBlue](https://ublue.it) using their [startingpoint](https://github.com/ublue-os/startingpoint) as template. For those unaware; an oversimplification would be that it is Fedora Silverblue with some extras.\n
        > - As such, I would like to have my developer environments local and have used [Distrobox](https://github.com/89luca89/distrobox) to that extent using steps similar to the ones outlined over [here](https://blog.niklas.tech/intellij-and-java-on-immutable-linux). But I’m not married to that specific way of utilizing local containers. So please feel free to recommend me something that’s at least as good.\n
        > - If I go for Emacs, then I will definitely rely on Evil.\n
        > - If possible, I would like to use it for C#, Python and Rust. Furthermore, I engage in editing Bash scripts, Dockerfiles, Linux config files, texts written in Latex and/or Markdown and other files written in Nix or JSON. As both are very extensible, I don’t expect any issues, but I might be wrong.\n
        > \n
        > **Questions:**\n
        > \n
        > - First of all, does it make sense for me to only consider these two?\n
        > - Can the split between Vim and Neovim be interpreted as the first schism and as such be a forebode for what’s yet to come?\n
        > - [Google Trends](https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%205-y&q=%2Fm%2F07zh7,%2Fg%2F11f3w6p14d,%2Fm%2F01yp0m&hl=en-US) suggests that Neo(Vim) is ever-popular. On the other hand; not only is Emacs relatively less popular, but its popularity seems to be slightly declining. Should this worry me regarding their long-time future? Especially considering that a thriving community is literally the lifeline for both of them.\n
        > - For those that have used both extensively, which one do you prefer (if any) and why?\n
        > - While I understand that the power of both of them lies primarily in how one can literally make them behave however suits their workflow best. Therefore, the use of premade configs and/or starter kits/distributions should (ideally) only be used either temporary or as a starting point. However, at this point, they provide a decent showcase of what each *‘platform’* has to offer. So: \n
        >     - Regarding Emacs; [Doom Emacs](https://github.com/doomemacs/doomemacs) or [Spacemacs](https://github.com/syl20bnr/spacemacs)? And why?\n
        >     - Regarding Neovim; there are a lot, but the big ones seem to be [AstroNvim](https://github.com/AstroNvim/AstroNvim), [LazyVim](https://github.com/LazyVim/LazyVim), [LunarVim](https://github.com/LunarVim/LunarVim) and [NvChad](https://github.com/NvChad/NvChad). Which one and why?
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            > Or is the usage of Spacemacs primarily attributable to it coming earlier to the scene?\n
            \n
            Yeah, pretty much just that. If was to start again now I’d consider other options, but I have no serious complaints about spacemacs. I probably would have never got into Emacs at all if I had to start with vanilla.\n
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            > Furthermore, as you’re using it in “VI mode”, would it be fair to assume that you’ve got some experience/history with Neo(Vim) as well? If so, what led you to making the switch from (Neo)Vim to Emacs?\n
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            Yeah, I used VIM (and I still do when I’m in an unfamiliar environment), but only before neovim existed. IMO Lisp is what makes Emacs great, and vimscript is (was?) an absolute nightmare for anything complex. I don’t think lua is a bad language, but I’ll still take Lisp any day for this purpose.\n
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            > I’ve also got my concerns related to what degree the containers can be sandboxed. Do you happen to have some insights on this?\n
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            What I described isn’t using containers. Nix just provides an environment for processes to run in, and direnv-mode ensures it’s using the right environment for a given buffer in Emacs. So for example I don’t have `OmniSharp` or `dotnet` in my user $PATH, but they are provided by the nix expression in a particular project directory. That allows lsp-mode to start `OmniSharp` as a language server, or I can run `dotnet build` using the Emacs `compile` command.\n
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            You can define containers with nix and manage them with `nixos-container`. I do that for testing server deployments, or running sandboxed services, but I’ve never needed something that complex for a dev shell.
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            > I assume this is due to the amount of effort that would have been required for it to acquire some of the functionality you were expecting out of it. Am I right?\n
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            I didn’t really understand what Emacs was at the time, I just got fed up with trying to make vim into an IDE. Out of the box, spacemacs had good language support, modal editing, and looked ‘modern’.\n
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            > I intend to put my teeth in GNU Guix at some point in the future.\n
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            Me too, but I nix has served me well, so I haven’t been motivated.
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            > I want to have a better idea for much time is spend on ‘management’; fix, extend and/or automate etc.\n
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            Not that much really. I usually upgrade everything once a month or so. The last couple of times were smooth. I think the last problem I hit was:\n
            \n
            [github.com/emacs-lsp/lsp-mode/issues/4153](https://github.com/emacs-lsp/lsp-mode/issues/4153)\n
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            This was actually triggered by upgrading omnisharp, which started sending a new notification that lsp-mode didn’t explicitly ignore.\n
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            By the time I hit it, that issue had already been reported, so I was able to quickly work around it with a snippet in my main config. I could have also just rolled back omnisharp.\n
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        > - I am not interested in anything that remotely resembles a flame war. The community at Lemmy has so far been very kind to me; let’s keep it that way 😜.\n
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        > **Motivation**\n
        > \n
        > I’ve had experiences with Atom, VS Code and some of Jetbrains’ IDEs like Pycharm and Rider. While I’ve been generally content with all of them, it leaves a bad taste in my mouth whenever I’m forced to switch IDEs because their lifetimes and/or lack of extensibility doesn’t allow me to responsibly continue using them. As such, I’m interested in a long time investment that will grow as I will. Both Emacs and (Neo)Vim have passed the test of time and I honestly don’t think they’ll cease to exist in the upcoming decades, that’s why I would love to start using either one of them.\n
        > \n
        > Furthermore, Vi(m) keybindings seem to be somewhat ubiquitous and almost any IDE offers some support. As such, improving my Vi(m)-game should only net-positive my productivity (at least eventually). Also, fluency will benefit me whenever I’m remote accessing any random server as they will always have Vi(m) installed. Thankfully, this doesn’t force me to use Vi(m) (or Neovim) just yet, because Emacs offers with Evil perhaps the single best Vi(m) implementation; outside of native Vi(m)*.\n
        > \n
        > **My setup:**\n
        > \n
        > - I’m on a custom image of [uBlue](https://ublue.it) using their [startingpoint](https://github.com/ublue-os/startingpoint) as template. For those unaware; an oversimplification would be that it is Fedora Silverblue with some extras.\n
        > - As such, I would like to have my developer environments local and have used [Distrobox](https://github.com/89luca89/distrobox) to that extent using steps similar to the ones outlined over [here](https://blog.niklas.tech/intellij-and-java-on-immutable-linux). But I’m not married to that specific way of utilizing local containers. So please feel free to recommend me something that’s at least as good.\n
        > - If I go for Emacs, then I will definitely rely on Evil.\n
        > - If possible, I would like to use it for C#, Python and Rust. Furthermore, I engage in editing Bash scripts, Dockerfiles, Linux config files, texts written in Latex and/or Markdown and other files written in Nix or JSON. As both are very extensible, I don’t expect any issues, but I might be wrong.\n
        > \n
        > **Questions:**\n
        > \n
        > - First of all, does it make sense for me to only consider these two?\n
        > - Can the split between Vim and Neovim be interpreted as the first schism and as such be a forebode for what’s yet to come?\n
        > - [Google Trends](https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%205-y&q=%2Fm%2F07zh7,%2Fg%2F11f3w6p14d,%2Fm%2F01yp0m&hl=en-US) suggests that Neo(Vim) is ever-popular. On the other hand; not only is Emacs relatively less popular, but its popularity seems to be slightly declining. Should this worry me regarding their long-time future? Especially considering that a thriving community is literally the lifeline for both of them.\n
        > - For those that have used both extensively, which one do you prefer (if any) and why?\n
        > - While I understand that the power of both of them lies primarily in how one can literally make them behave however suits their workflow best. Therefore, the use of premade configs and/or starter kits/distributions should (ideally) only be used either temporary or as a starting point. However, at this point, they provide a decent showcase of what each *‘platform’* has to offer. So: \n
        >     - Regarding Emacs; [Doom Emacs](https://github.com/doomemacs/doomemacs) or [Spacemacs](https://github.com/syl20bnr/spacemacs)? And why?\n
        >     - Regarding Neovim; there are a lot, but the big ones seem to be [AstroNvim](https://github.com/AstroNvim/AstroNvim), [LazyVim](https://github.com/LazyVim/LazyVim), [LunarVim](https://github.com/LunarVim/LunarVim) and [NvChad](https://github.com/NvChad/NvChad). Which one and why?
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            > Or is the usage of Spacemacs primarily attributable to it coming earlier to the scene?\n
            \n
            Yeah, pretty much just that. If was to start again now I’d consider other options, but I have no serious complaints about spacemacs. I probably would have never got into Emacs at all if I had to start with vanilla.\n
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            > Furthermore, as you’re using it in “VI mode”, would it be fair to assume that you’ve got some experience/history with Neo(Vim) as well? If so, what led you to making the switch from (Neo)Vim to Emacs?\n
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            What I described isn’t using containers. Nix just provides an environment for processes to run in, and direnv-mode ensures it’s using the right environment for a given buffer in Emacs. So for example I don’t have `OmniSharp` or `dotnet` in my user $PATH, but they are provided by the nix expression in a particular project directory. That allows lsp-mode to start `OmniSharp` as a language server, or I can run `dotnet build` using the Emacs `compile` command.\n
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            You can define containers with nix and manage them with `nixos-container`. I do that for testing server deployments, or running sandboxed services, but I’ve never needed something that complex for a dev shell.
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            > I assume this is due to the amount of effort that would have been required for it to acquire some of the functionality you were expecting out of it. Am I right?\n
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            Me too, but I nix has served me well, so I haven’t been motivated.
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            > I want to have a better idea for much time is spend on ‘management’; fix, extend and/or automate etc.\n
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            Not that much really. I usually upgrade everything once a month or so. The last couple of times were smooth. I think the last problem I hit was:\n
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            [github.com/emacs-lsp/lsp-mode/issues/4153](https://github.com/emacs-lsp/lsp-mode/issues/4153)\n
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            This was actually triggered by upgrading omnisharp, which started sending a new notification that lsp-mode didn’t explicitly ignore.\n
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            By the time I hit it, that issue had already been reported, so I was able to quickly work around it with a snippet in my main config. I could have also just rolled back omnisharp.\n
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            Most problems I’ve had have been solved by upgrading spacemacs to latest.
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        cross-posted from: [lemmy.ml/post/9648279](https://lemmy.ml/post/9648279)\n
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        > I would like to premise this with the following:\n
        > \n
        > - The best approach is probably just testing out each and every editor that interests me until I’ve found what works best for me. \n
        >     - However, I wonder to what degree a test as such would be representative when the likes of Emacs and (Neo)Vim are considered; both of which are known for being a life time learning process.\n
        > - I don’t literally expect Emacs or (Neo)Vim to be drop-in replacements for any IDE. Some of the most basic IDE-functions are absent by default and some (perhaps more advanced) functionality might simply not be attainable at all.\n
        > - I am not interested in anything that remotely resembles a flame war. The community at Lemmy has so far been very kind to me; let’s keep it that way 😜.\n
        > \n
        > ---\n
        > \n
        > **Motivation**\n
        > \n
        > I’ve had experiences with Atom, VS Code and some of Jetbrains’ IDEs like Pycharm and Rider. While I’ve been generally content with all of them, it leaves a bad taste in my mouth whenever I’m forced to switch IDEs because their lifetimes and/or lack of extensibility doesn’t allow me to responsibly continue using them. As such, I’m interested in a long time investment that will grow as I will. Both Emacs and (Neo)Vim have passed the test of time and I honestly don’t think they’ll cease to exist in the upcoming decades, that’s why I would love to start using either one of them.\n
        > \n
        > Furthermore, Vi(m) keybindings seem to be somewhat ubiquitous and almost any IDE offers some support. As such, improving my Vi(m)-game should only net-positive my productivity (at least eventually). Also, fluency will benefit me whenever I’m remote accessing any random server as they will always have Vi(m) installed. Thankfully, this doesn’t force me to use Vi(m) (or Neovim) just yet, because Emacs offers with Evil perhaps the single best Vi(m) implementation; outside of native Vi(m)*.\n
        > \n
        > **My setup:**\n
        > \n
        > - I’m on a custom image of [uBlue](https://ublue.it) using their [startingpoint](https://github.com/ublue-os/startingpoint) as template. For those unaware; an oversimplification would be that it is Fedora Silverblue with some extras.\n
        > - As such, I would like to have my developer environments local and have used [Distrobox](https://github.com/89luca89/distrobox) to that extent using steps similar to the ones outlined over [here](https://blog.niklas.tech/intellij-and-java-on-immutable-linux). But I’m not married to that specific way of utilizing local containers. So please feel free to recommend me something that’s at least as good.\n
        > - If I go for Emacs, then I will definitely rely on Evil.\n
        > - If possible, I would like to use it for C#, Python and Rust. Furthermore, I engage in editing Bash scripts, Dockerfiles, Linux config files, texts written in Latex and/or Markdown and other files written in Nix or JSON. As both are very extensible, I don’t expect any issues, but I might be wrong.\n
        > \n
        > **Questions:**\n
        > \n
        > - First of all, does it make sense for me to only consider these two?\n
        > - Can the split between Vim and Neovim be interpreted as the first schism and as such be a forebode for what’s yet to come?\n
        > - [Google Trends](https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%205-y&q=%2Fm%2F07zh7,%2Fg%2F11f3w6p14d,%2Fm%2F01yp0m&hl=en-US) suggests that Neo(Vim) is ever-popular. On the other hand; not only is Emacs relatively less popular, but its popularity seems to be slightly declining. Should this worry me regarding their long-time future? Especially considering that a thriving community is literally the lifeline for both of them.\n
        > - For those that have used both extensively, which one do you prefer (if any) and why?\n
        > - While I understand that the power of both of them lies primarily in how one can literally make them behave however suits their workflow best. Therefore, the use of premade configs and/or starter kits/distributions should (ideally) only be used either temporary or as a starting point. However, at this point, they provide a decent showcase of what each *‘platform’* has to offer. So: \n
        >     - Regarding Emacs; [Doom Emacs](https://github.com/doomemacs/doomemacs) or [Spacemacs](https://github.com/syl20bnr/spacemacs)? And why?\n
        >     - Regarding Neovim; there are a lot, but the big ones seem to be [AstroNvim](https://github.com/AstroNvim/AstroNvim), [LazyVim](https://github.com/LazyVim/LazyVim), [LunarVim](https://github.com/LunarVim/LunarVim) and [NvChad](https://github.com/NvChad/NvChad). Which one and why?
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            I use Emacs + spacemacs in VI mode as a base for all my text editing on both Linux and windows (which is unfortunately required for work on occasion) machines.\n
            \n
            For dev environments I mostly use nix + direnv + direnv-mode.\n
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            For C# I use the above plus omnisharp-roslyn + lsp-mode.\n
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            I tinker in all sorts of languages, and they all have at least basic support in the Emacs ecosystem. The popular ones should have fully functional language servers and debugger adapters.
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            > I assume this is due to the amount of effort that would have been required for it to acquire some of the functionality you were expecting out of it. Am I right?\n
            \n
            I didn’t really understand what Emacs was at the time, I just got fed up with trying to make vim into an IDE. Out of the box, spacemacs had good language support, modal editing, and looked ‘modern’.\n
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            What I love about Emacs now is Lisp and the package ecosystem. I have 396 packages installed, and many of them interact in quite complex ways. When I do a package upgrade it pretty much pulls the latest from the development branch of each package. Some packages haven’t been changed in 10 years, some are changed daily. It’s bleeding edge everything, and things don’t actually break that much. Lisp makes for (obviously IMO) beautiful, simple code, so most packages are a pleasure to fix, extend, or automate.\n
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            > I intend to put my teeth in GNU Guix at some point in the future.\n
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            Me too, but I nix has served me well, so I haven’t been motivated.
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            > I want to have a better idea for much time is spend on ‘management’; fix, extend and/or automate etc.\n
            \n
            Not that much really. I usually upgrade everything once a month or so. The last couple of times were smooth. I think the last problem I hit was:\n
            \n
            [github.com/emacs-lsp/lsp-mode/issues/4153](https://github.com/emacs-lsp/lsp-mode/issues/4153)\n
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        cross-posted from: [lemmy.ml/post/9648279](https://lemmy.ml/post/9648279)\n
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        > I would like to premise this with the following:\n
        > \n
        > - The best approach is probably just testing out each and every editor that interests me until I’ve found what works best for me. \n
        >     - However, I wonder to what degree a test as such would be representative when the likes of Emacs and (Neo)Vim are considered; both of which are known for being a life time learning process.\n
        > - I don’t literally expect Emacs or (Neo)Vim to be drop-in replacements for any IDE. Some of the most basic IDE-functions are absent by default and some (perhaps more advanced) functionality might simply not be attainable at all.\n
        > - I am not interested in anything that remotely resembles a flame war. The community at Lemmy has so far been very kind to me; let’s keep it that way 😜.\n
        > \n
        > ---\n
        > \n
        > **Motivation**\n
        > \n
        > I’ve had experiences with Atom, VS Code and some of Jetbrains’ IDEs like Pycharm and Rider. While I’ve been generally content with all of them, it leaves a bad taste in my mouth whenever I’m forced to switch IDEs because their lifetimes and/or lack of extensibility doesn’t allow me to responsibly continue using them. As such, I’m interested in a long time investment that will grow as I will. Both Emacs and (Neo)Vim have passed the test of time and I honestly don’t think they’ll cease to exist in the upcoming decades, that’s why I would love to start using either one of them.\n
        > \n
        > Furthermore, Vi(m) keybindings seem to be somewhat ubiquitous and almost any IDE offers some support. As such, improving my Vi(m)-game should only net-positive my productivity (at least eventually). Also, fluency will benefit me whenever I’m remote accessing any random server as they will always have Vi(m) installed. Thankfully, this doesn’t force me to use Vi(m) (or Neovim) just yet, because Emacs offers with Evil perhaps the single best Vi(m) implementation; outside of native Vi(m)*.\n
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        > **My setup:**\n
        > \n
        > - I’m on a custom image of [uBlue](https://ublue.it) using their [startingpoint](https://github.com/ublue-os/startingpoint) as template. For those unaware; an oversimplification would be that it is Fedora Silverblue with some extras.\n
        > - As such, I would like to have my developer environments local and have used [Distrobox](https://github.com/89luca89/distrobox) to that extent using steps similar to the ones outlined over [here](https://blog.niklas.tech/intellij-and-java-on-immutable-linux). But I’m not married to that specific way of utilizing local containers. So please feel free to recommend me something that’s at least as good.\n
        > - If I go for Emacs, then I will definitely rely on Evil.\n
        > - If possible, I would like to use it for C#, Python and Rust. Furthermore, I engage in editing Bash scripts, Dockerfiles, Linux config files, texts written in Latex and/or Markdown and other files written in Nix or JSON. As both are very extensible, I don’t expect any issues, but I might be wrong.\n
        > \n
        > **Questions:**\n
        > \n
        > - First of all, does it make sense for me to only consider these two?\n
        > - Can the split between Vim and Neovim be interpreted as the first schism and as such be a forebode for what’s yet to come?\n
        > - [Google Trends](https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%205-y&q=%2Fm%2F07zh7,%2Fg%2F11f3w6p14d,%2Fm%2F01yp0m&hl=en-US) suggests that Neo(Vim) is ever-popular. On the other hand; not only is Emacs relatively less popular, but its popularity seems to be slightly declining. Should this worry me regarding their long-time future? Especially considering that a thriving community is literally the lifeline for both of them.\n
        > - For those that have used both extensively, which one do you prefer (if any) and why?\n
        > - While I understand that the power of both of them lies primarily in how one can literally make them behave however suits their workflow best. Therefore, the use of premade configs and/or starter kits/distributions should (ideally) only be used either temporary or as a starting point. However, at this point, they provide a decent showcase of what each *‘platform’* has to offer. So: \n
        >     - Regarding Emacs; [Doom Emacs](https://github.com/doomemacs/doomemacs) or [Spacemacs](https://github.com/syl20bnr/spacemacs)? And why?\n
        >     - Regarding Neovim; there are a lot, but the big ones seem to be [AstroNvim](https://github.com/AstroNvim/AstroNvim), [LazyVim](https://github.com/LazyVim/LazyVim), [LunarVim](https://github.com/LunarVim/LunarVim) and [NvChad](https://github.com/NvChad/NvChad). Which one and why?
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            I use Emacs + spacemacs in VI mode as a base for all my text editing on both Linux and windows (which is unfortunately required for work on occasion) machines.\n
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            For dev environments I mostly use nix + direnv + direnv-mode.\n
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            For C# I use the above plus omnisharp-roslyn + lsp-mode.\n
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            > I assume this is due to the amount of effort that would have been required for it to acquire some of the functionality you were expecting out of it. Am I right?\n
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            > I want to have a better idea for much time is spend on ‘management’; fix, extend and/or automate etc.\n
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      > Or is the usage of Spacemacs primarily attributable to it coming earlier to the scene?\n
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      Yeah, pretty much just that. If was to start again now I’d consider other options, but I have no serious complaints about spacemacs. I probably would have never got into Emacs at all if I had to start with vanilla.\n
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      > Furthermore, as you’re using it in “VI mode”, would it be fair to assume that you’ve got some experience/history with Neo(Vim) as well? If so, what led you to making the switch from (Neo)Vim to Emacs?\n
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      What I described isn’t using containers. Nix just provides an environment for processes to run in, and direnv-mode ensures it’s using the right environment for a given buffer in Emacs. So for example I don’t have `OmniSharp` or `dotnet` in my user $PATH, but they are provided by the nix expression in a particular project directory. That allows lsp-mode to start `OmniSharp` as a language server, or I can run `dotnet build` using the Emacs `compile` command.\n
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        cross-posted from: [lemmy.ml/post/9648279](https://lemmy.ml/post/9648279)\n
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        > I would like to premise this with the following:\n
        > \n
        > - The best approach is probably just testing out each and every editor that interests me until I’ve found what works best for me. \n
        >     - However, I wonder to what degree a test as such would be representative when the likes of Emacs and (Neo)Vim are considered; both of which are known for being a life time learning process.\n
        > - I don’t literally expect Emacs or (Neo)Vim to be drop-in replacements for any IDE. Some of the most basic IDE-functions are absent by default and some (perhaps more advanced) functionality might simply not be attainable at all.\n
        > - I am not interested in anything that remotely resembles a flame war. The community at Lemmy has so far been very kind to me; let’s keep it that way 😜.\n
        > \n
        > ---\n
        > \n
        > **Motivation**\n
        > \n
        > I’ve had experiences with Atom, VS Code and some of Jetbrains’ IDEs like Pycharm and Rider. While I’ve been generally content with all of them, it leaves a bad taste in my mouth whenever I’m forced to switch IDEs because their lifetimes and/or lack of extensibility doesn’t allow me to responsibly continue using them. As such, I’m interested in a long time investment that will grow as I will. Both Emacs and (Neo)Vim have passed the test of time and I honestly don’t think they’ll cease to exist in the upcoming decades, that’s why I would love to start using either one of them.\n
        > \n
        > Furthermore, Vi(m) keybindings seem to be somewhat ubiquitous and almost any IDE offers some support. As such, improving my Vi(m)-game should only net-positive my productivity (at least eventually). Also, fluency will benefit me whenever I’m remote accessing any random server as they will always have Vi(m) installed. Thankfully, this doesn’t force me to use Vi(m) (or Neovim) just yet, because Emacs offers with Evil perhaps the single best Vi(m) implementation; outside of native Vi(m)*.\n
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        > **My setup:**\n
        > \n
        > - I’m on a custom image of [uBlue](https://ublue.it) using their [startingpoint](https://github.com/ublue-os/startingpoint) as template. For those unaware; an oversimplification would be that it is Fedora Silverblue with some extras.\n
        > - As such, I would like to have my developer environments local and have used [Distrobox](https://github.com/89luca89/distrobox) to that extent using steps similar to the ones outlined over [here](https://blog.niklas.tech/intellij-and-java-on-immutable-linux). But I’m not married to that specific way of utilizing local containers. So please feel free to recommend me something that’s at least as good.\n
        > - If I go for Emacs, then I will definitely rely on Evil.\n
        > - If possible, I would like to use it for C#, Python and Rust. Furthermore, I engage in editing Bash scripts, Dockerfiles, Linux config files, texts written in Latex and/or Markdown and other files written in Nix or JSON. As both are very extensible, I don’t expect any issues, but I might be wrong.\n
        > \n
        > **Questions:**\n
        > \n
        > - First of all, does it make sense for me to only consider these two?\n
        > - Can the split between Vim and Neovim be interpreted as the first schism and as such be a forebode for what’s yet to come?\n
        > - [Google Trends](https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%205-y&q=%2Fm%2F07zh7,%2Fg%2F11f3w6p14d,%2Fm%2F01yp0m&hl=en-US) suggests that Neo(Vim) is ever-popular. On the other hand; not only is Emacs relatively less popular, but its popularity seems to be slightly declining. Should this worry me regarding their long-time future? Especially considering that a thriving community is literally the lifeline for both of them.\n
        > - For those that have used both extensively, which one do you prefer (if any) and why?\n
        > - While I understand that the power of both of them lies primarily in how one can literally make them behave however suits their workflow best. Therefore, the use of premade configs and/or starter kits/distributions should (ideally) only be used either temporary or as a starting point. However, at this point, they provide a decent showcase of what each *‘platform’* has to offer. So: \n
        >     - Regarding Emacs; [Doom Emacs](https://github.com/doomemacs/doomemacs) or [Spacemacs](https://github.com/syl20bnr/spacemacs)? And why?\n
        >     - Regarding Neovim; there are a lot, but the big ones seem to be [AstroNvim](https://github.com/AstroNvim/AstroNvim), [LazyVim](https://github.com/LazyVim/LazyVim), [LunarVim](https://github.com/LunarVim/LunarVim) and [NvChad](https://github.com/NvChad/NvChad). Which one and why?
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            I use Emacs + spacemacs in VI mode as a base for all my text editing on both Linux and windows (which is unfortunately required for work on occasion) machines.\n
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            For dev environments I mostly use nix + direnv + direnv-mode.\n
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            For C# I use the above plus omnisharp-roslyn + lsp-mode.\n
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            I tinker in all sorts of languages, and they all have at least basic support in the Emacs ecosystem. The popular ones should have fully functional language servers and debugger adapters.
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            > I assume this is due to the amount of effort that would have been required for it to acquire some of the functionality you were expecting out of it. Am I right?\n
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            > I want to have a better idea for much time is spend on ‘management’; fix, extend and/or automate etc.\n
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        > I would like to premise this with the following:\n
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        >     - However, I wonder to what degree a test as such would be representative when the likes of Emacs and (Neo)Vim are considered; both of which are known for being a life time learning process.\n
        > - I don’t literally expect Emacs or (Neo)Vim to be drop-in replacements for any IDE. Some of the most basic IDE-functions are absent by default and some (perhaps more advanced) functionality might simply not be attainable at all.\n
        > - I am not interested in anything that remotely resembles a flame war. The community at Lemmy has so far been very kind to me; let’s keep it that way 😜.\n
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        > I’ve had experiences with Atom, VS Code and some of Jetbrains’ IDEs like Pycharm and Rider. While I’ve been generally content with all of them, it leaves a bad taste in my mouth whenever I’m forced to switch IDEs because their lifetimes and/or lack of extensibility doesn’t allow me to responsibly continue using them. As such, I’m interested in a long time investment that will grow as I will. Both Emacs and (Neo)Vim have passed the test of time and I honestly don’t think they’ll cease to exist in the upcoming decades, that’s why I would love to start using either one of them.\n
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        > Furthermore, Vi(m) keybindings seem to be somewhat ubiquitous and almost any IDE offers some support. As such, improving my Vi(m)-game should only net-positive my productivity (at least eventually). Also, fluency will benefit me whenever I’m remote accessing any random server as they will always have Vi(m) installed. Thankfully, this doesn’t force me to use Vi(m) (or Neovim) just yet, because Emacs offers with Evil perhaps the single best Vi(m) implementation; outside of native Vi(m)*.\n
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        > **My setup:**\n
        > \n
        > - I’m on a custom image of [uBlue](https://ublue.it) using their [startingpoint](https://github.com/ublue-os/startingpoint) as template. For those unaware; an oversimplification would be that it is Fedora Silverblue with some extras.\n
        > - As such, I would like to have my developer environments local and have used [Distrobox](https://github.com/89luca89/distrobox) to that extent using steps similar to the ones outlined over [here](https://blog.niklas.tech/intellij-and-java-on-immutable-linux). But I’m not married to that specific way of utilizing local containers. So please feel free to recommend me something that’s at least as good.\n
        > - If I go for Emacs, then I will definitely rely on Evil.\n
        > - If possible, I would like to use it for C#, Python and Rust. Furthermore, I engage in editing Bash scripts, Dockerfiles, Linux config files, texts written in Latex and/or Markdown and other files written in Nix or JSON. As both are very extensible, I don’t expect any issues, but I might be wrong.\n
        > \n
        > **Questions:**\n
        > \n
        > - First of all, does it make sense for me to only consider these two?\n
        > - Can the split between Vim and Neovim be interpreted as the first schism and as such be a forebode for what’s yet to come?\n
        > - [Google Trends](https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%205-y&q=%2Fm%2F07zh7,%2Fg%2F11f3w6p14d,%2Fm%2F01yp0m&hl=en-US) suggests that Neo(Vim) is ever-popular. On the other hand; not only is Emacs relatively less popular, but its popularity seems to be slightly declining. Should this worry me regarding their long-time future? Especially considering that a thriving community is literally the lifeline for both of them.\n
        > - For those that have used both extensively, which one do you prefer (if any) and why?\n
        > - While I understand that the power of both of them lies primarily in how one can literally make them behave however suits their workflow best. Therefore, the use of premade configs and/or starter kits/distributions should (ideally) only be used either temporary or as a starting point. However, at this point, they provide a decent showcase of what each *‘platform’* has to offer. So: \n
        >     - Regarding Emacs; [Doom Emacs](https://github.com/doomemacs/doomemacs) or [Spacemacs](https://github.com/syl20bnr/spacemacs)? And why?\n
        >     - Regarding Neovim; there are a lot, but the big ones seem to be [AstroNvim](https://github.com/AstroNvim/AstroNvim), [LazyVim](https://github.com/LazyVim/LazyVim), [LunarVim](https://github.com/LunarVim/LunarVim) and [NvChad](https://github.com/NvChad/NvChad). Which one and why?
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            I use Emacs + spacemacs in VI mode as a base for all my text editing on both Linux and windows (which is unfortunately required for work on occasion) machines.\n
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            For dev environments I mostly use nix + direnv + direnv-mode.\n
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            For C# I use the above plus omnisharp-roslyn + lsp-mode.\n
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            I tinker in all sorts of languages, and they all have at least basic support in the Emacs ecosystem. The popular ones should have fully functional language servers and debugger adapters.
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            > I assume this is due to the amount of effort that would have been required for it to acquire some of the functionality you were expecting out of it. Am I right?\n
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            I didn’t really understand what Emacs was at the time, I just got fed up with trying to make vim into an IDE. Out of the box, spacemacs had good language support, modal editing, and looked ‘modern’.\n
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            Me too, but I nix has served me well, so I haven’t been motivated.
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            > I want to have a better idea for much time is spend on ‘management’; fix, extend and/or automate etc.\n
            \n
            Not that much really. I usually upgrade everything once a month or so. The last couple of times were smooth. I think the last problem I hit was:\n
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            [github.com/emacs-lsp/lsp-mode/issues/4153](https://github.com/emacs-lsp/lsp-mode/issues/4153)\n
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            This was actually triggered by upgrading omnisharp, which started sending a new notification that lsp-mode didn’t explicitly ignore.\n
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            By the time I hit it, that issue had already been reported, so I was able to quickly work around it with a snippet in my main config. I could have also just rolled back omnisharp.\n
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            Most problems I’ve had have been solved by upgrading spacemacs to latest.
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      > Or is the usage of Spacemacs primarily attributable to it coming earlier to the scene?\n
      \n
      Yeah, pretty much just that. If was to start again now I’d consider other options, but I have no serious complaints about spacemacs. I probably would have never got into Emacs at all if I had to start with vanilla.\n
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      > Furthermore, as you’re using it in “VI mode”, would it be fair to assume that you’ve got some experience/history with Neo(Vim) as well? If so, what led you to making the switch from (Neo)Vim to Emacs?\n
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      Yeah, I used VIM (and I still do when I’m in an unfamiliar environment), but only before neovim existed. IMO Lisp is what makes Emacs great, and vimscript is (was?) an absolute nightmare for anything complex. I don’t think lua is a bad language, but I’ll still take Lisp any day for this purpose.\n
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      What I described isn’t using containers. Nix just provides an environment for processes to run in, and direnv-mode ensures it’s using the right environment for a given buffer in Emacs. So for example I don’t have `OmniSharp` or `dotnet` in my user $PATH, but they are provided by the nix expression in a particular project directory. That allows lsp-mode to start `OmniSharp` as a language server, or I can run `dotnet build` using the Emacs `compile` command.\n
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      You can define containers with nix and manage them with `nixos-container`. I do that for testing server deployments, or running sandboxed services, but I’ve never needed something that complex for a dev shell.
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        cross-posted from: [lemmy.ml/post/9648279](https://lemmy.ml/post/9648279)\n
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        > I would like to premise this with the following:\n
        > \n
        > - The best approach is probably just testing out each and every editor that interests me until I’ve found what works best for me. \n
        >     - However, I wonder to what degree a test as such would be representative when the likes of Emacs and (Neo)Vim are considered; both of which are known for being a life time learning process.\n
        > - I don’t literally expect Emacs or (Neo)Vim to be drop-in replacements for any IDE. Some of the most basic IDE-functions are absent by default and some (perhaps more advanced) functionality might simply not be attainable at all.\n
        > - I am not interested in anything that remotely resembles a flame war. The community at Lemmy has so far been very kind to me; let’s keep it that way 😜.\n
        > \n
        > ---\n
        > \n
        > **Motivation**\n
        > \n
        > I’ve had experiences with Atom, VS Code and some of Jetbrains’ IDEs like Pycharm and Rider. While I’ve been generally content with all of them, it leaves a bad taste in my mouth whenever I’m forced to switch IDEs because their lifetimes and/or lack of extensibility doesn’t allow me to responsibly continue using them. As such, I’m interested in a long time investment that will grow as I will. Both Emacs and (Neo)Vim have passed the test of time and I honestly don’t think they’ll cease to exist in the upcoming decades, that’s why I would love to start using either one of them.\n
        > \n
        > Furthermore, Vi(m) keybindings seem to be somewhat ubiquitous and almost any IDE offers some support. As such, improving my Vi(m)-game should only net-positive my productivity (at least eventually). Also, fluency will benefit me whenever I’m remote accessing any random server as they will always have Vi(m) installed. Thankfully, this doesn’t force me to use Vi(m) (or Neovim) just yet, because Emacs offers with Evil perhaps the single best Vi(m) implementation; outside of native Vi(m)*.\n
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        > **My setup:**\n
        > \n
        > - I’m on a custom image of [uBlue](https://ublue.it) using their [startingpoint](https://github.com/ublue-os/startingpoint) as template. For those unaware; an oversimplification would be that it is Fedora Silverblue with some extras.\n
        > - As such, I would like to have my developer environments local and have used [Distrobox](https://github.com/89luca89/distrobox) to that extent using steps similar to the ones outlined over [here](https://blog.niklas.tech/intellij-and-java-on-immutable-linux). But I’m not married to that specific way of utilizing local containers. So please feel free to recommend me something that’s at least as good.\n
        > - If I go for Emacs, then I will definitely rely on Evil.\n
        > - If possible, I would like to use it for C#, Python and Rust. Furthermore, I engage in editing Bash scripts, Dockerfiles, Linux config files, texts written in Latex and/or Markdown and other files written in Nix or JSON. As both are very extensible, I don’t expect any issues, but I might be wrong.\n
        > \n
        > **Questions:**\n
        > \n
        > - First of all, does it make sense for me to only consider these two?\n
        > - Can the split between Vim and Neovim be interpreted as the first schism and as such be a forebode for what’s yet to come?\n
        > - [Google Trends](https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%205-y&q=%2Fm%2F07zh7,%2Fg%2F11f3w6p14d,%2Fm%2F01yp0m&hl=en-US) suggests that Neo(Vim) is ever-popular. On the other hand; not only is Emacs relatively less popular, but its popularity seems to be slightly declining. Should this worry me regarding their long-time future? Especially considering that a thriving community is literally the lifeline for both of them.\n
        > - For those that have used both extensively, which one do you prefer (if any) and why?\n
        > - While I understand that the power of both of them lies primarily in how one can literally make them behave however suits their workflow best. Therefore, the use of premade configs and/or starter kits/distributions should (ideally) only be used either temporary or as a starting point. However, at this point, they provide a decent showcase of what each *‘platform’* has to offer. So: \n
        >     - Regarding Emacs; [Doom Emacs](https://github.com/doomemacs/doomemacs) or [Spacemacs](https://github.com/syl20bnr/spacemacs)? And why?\n
        >     - Regarding Neovim; there are a lot, but the big ones seem to be [AstroNvim](https://github.com/AstroNvim/AstroNvim), [LazyVim](https://github.com/LazyVim/LazyVim), [LunarVim](https://github.com/LunarVim/LunarVim) and [NvChad](https://github.com/NvChad/NvChad). Which one and why?
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            I use Emacs + spacemacs in VI mode as a base for all my text editing on both Linux and windows (which is unfortunately required for work on occasion) machines.\n
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            For dev environments I mostly use nix + direnv + direnv-mode.\n
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            For C# I use the above plus omnisharp-roslyn + lsp-mode.\n
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            I tinker in all sorts of languages, and they all have at least basic support in the Emacs ecosystem. The popular ones should have fully functional language servers and debugger adapters.
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            > I assume this is due to the amount of effort that would have been required for it to acquire some of the functionality you were expecting out of it. Am I right?\n
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            I didn’t really understand what Emacs was at the time, I just got fed up with trying to make vim into an IDE. Out of the box, spacemacs had good language support, modal editing, and looked ‘modern’.\n
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            What I love about Emacs now is Lisp and the package ecosystem. I have 396 packages installed, and many of them interact in quite complex ways. When I do a package upgrade it pretty much pulls the latest from the development branch of each package. Some packages haven’t been changed in 10 years, some are changed daily. It’s bleeding edge everything, and things don’t actually break that much. Lisp makes for (obviously IMO) beautiful, simple code, so most packages are a pleasure to fix, extend, or automate.\n
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            Me too, but I nix has served me well, so I haven’t been motivated.
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            > I want to have a better idea for much time is spend on ‘management’; fix, extend and/or automate etc.\n
            \n
            Not that much really. I usually upgrade everything once a month or so. The last couple of times were smooth. I think the last problem I hit was:\n
            \n
            [github.com/emacs-lsp/lsp-mode/issues/4153](https://github.com/emacs-lsp/lsp-mode/issues/4153)\n
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        cross-posted from: [lemmy.ml/post/9648279](https://lemmy.ml/post/9648279)\n
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        > I would like to premise this with the following:\n
        > \n
        > - The best approach is probably just testing out each and every editor that interests me until I’ve found what works best for me. \n
        >     - However, I wonder to what degree a test as such would be representative when the likes of Emacs and (Neo)Vim are considered; both of which are known for being a life time learning process.\n
        > - I don’t literally expect Emacs or (Neo)Vim to be drop-in replacements for any IDE. Some of the most basic IDE-functions are absent by default and some (perhaps more advanced) functionality might simply not be attainable at all.\n
        > - I am not interested in anything that remotely resembles a flame war. The community at Lemmy has so far been very kind to me; let’s keep it that way 😜.\n
        > \n
        > ---\n
        > \n
        > **Motivation**\n
        > \n
        > I’ve had experiences with Atom, VS Code and some of Jetbrains’ IDEs like Pycharm and Rider. While I’ve been generally content with all of them, it leaves a bad taste in my mouth whenever I’m forced to switch IDEs because their lifetimes and/or lack of extensibility doesn’t allow me to responsibly continue using them. As such, I’m interested in a long time investment that will grow as I will. Both Emacs and (Neo)Vim have passed the test of time and I honestly don’t think they’ll cease to exist in the upcoming decades, that’s why I would love to start using either one of them.\n
        > \n
        > Furthermore, Vi(m) keybindings seem to be somewhat ubiquitous and almost any IDE offers some support. As such, improving my Vi(m)-game should only net-positive my productivity (at least eventually). Also, fluency will benefit me whenever I’m remote accessing any random server as they will always have Vi(m) installed. Thankfully, this doesn’t force me to use Vi(m) (or Neovim) just yet, because Emacs offers with Evil perhaps the single best Vi(m) implementation; outside of native Vi(m)*.\n
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        > **My setup:**\n
        > \n
        > - I’m on a custom image of [uBlue](https://ublue.it) using their [startingpoint](https://github.com/ublue-os/startingpoint) as template. For those unaware; an oversimplification would be that it is Fedora Silverblue with some extras.\n
        > - As such, I would like to have my developer environments local and have used [Distrobox](https://github.com/89luca89/distrobox) to that extent using steps similar to the ones outlined over [here](https://blog.niklas.tech/intellij-and-java-on-immutable-linux). But I’m not married to that specific way of utilizing local containers. So please feel free to recommend me something that’s at least as good.\n
        > - If I go for Emacs, then I will definitely rely on Evil.\n
        > - If possible, I would like to use it for C#, Python and Rust. Furthermore, I engage in editing Bash scripts, Dockerfiles, Linux config files, texts written in Latex and/or Markdown and other files written in Nix or JSON. As both are very extensible, I don’t expect any issues, but I might be wrong.\n
        > \n
        > **Questions:**\n
        > \n
        > - First of all, does it make sense for me to only consider these two?\n
        > - Can the split between Vim and Neovim be interpreted as the first schism and as such be a forebode for what’s yet to come?\n
        > - [Google Trends](https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%205-y&q=%2Fm%2F07zh7,%2Fg%2F11f3w6p14d,%2Fm%2F01yp0m&hl=en-US) suggests that Neo(Vim) is ever-popular. On the other hand; not only is Emacs relatively less popular, but its popularity seems to be slightly declining. Should this worry me regarding their long-time future? Especially considering that a thriving community is literally the lifeline for both of them.\n
        > - For those that have used both extensively, which one do you prefer (if any) and why?\n
        > - While I understand that the power of both of them lies primarily in how one can literally make them behave however suits their workflow best. Therefore, the use of premade configs and/or starter kits/distributions should (ideally) only be used either temporary or as a starting point. However, at this point, they provide a decent showcase of what each *‘platform’* has to offer. So: \n
        >     - Regarding Emacs; [Doom Emacs](https://github.com/doomemacs/doomemacs) or [Spacemacs](https://github.com/syl20bnr/spacemacs)? And why?\n
        >     - Regarding Neovim; there are a lot, but the big ones seem to be [AstroNvim](https://github.com/AstroNvim/AstroNvim), [LazyVim](https://github.com/LazyVim/LazyVim), [LunarVim](https://github.com/LunarVim/LunarVim) and [NvChad](https://github.com/NvChad/NvChad). Which one and why?
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            I use Emacs + spacemacs in VI mode as a base for all my text editing on both Linux and windows (which is unfortunately required for work on occasion) machines.\n
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            For dev environments I mostly use nix + direnv + direnv-mode.\n
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            For C# I use the above plus omnisharp-roslyn + lsp-mode.\n
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            > I assume this is due to the amount of effort that would have been required for it to acquire some of the functionality you were expecting out of it. Am I right?\n
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            > I want to have a better idea for much time is spend on ‘management’; fix, extend and/or automate etc.\n
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      > Or is the usage of Spacemacs primarily attributable to it coming earlier to the scene?\n
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      Yeah, pretty much just that. If was to start again now I’d consider other options, but I have no serious complaints about spacemacs. I probably would have never got into Emacs at all if I had to start with vanilla.\n
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      > Furthermore, as you’re using it in “VI mode”, would it be fair to assume that you’ve got some experience/history with Neo(Vim) as well? If so, what led you to making the switch from (Neo)Vim to Emacs?\n
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      What I described isn’t using containers. Nix just provides an environment for processes to run in, and direnv-mode ensures it’s using the right environment for a given buffer in Emacs. So for example I don’t have `OmniSharp` or `dotnet` in my user $PATH, but they are provided by the nix expression in a particular project directory. That allows lsp-mode to start `OmniSharp` as a language server, or I can run `dotnet build` using the Emacs `compile` command.\n
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        cross-posted from: [lemmy.ml/post/9648279](https://lemmy.ml/post/9648279)\n
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        > I would like to premise this with the following:\n
        > \n
        > - The best approach is probably just testing out each and every editor that interests me until I’ve found what works best for me. \n
        >     - However, I wonder to what degree a test as such would be representative when the likes of Emacs and (Neo)Vim are considered; both of which are known for being a life time learning process.\n
        > - I don’t literally expect Emacs or (Neo)Vim to be drop-in replacements for any IDE. Some of the most basic IDE-functions are absent by default and some (perhaps more advanced) functionality might simply not be attainable at all.\n
        > - I am not interested in anything that remotely resembles a flame war. The community at Lemmy has so far been very kind to me; let’s keep it that way 😜.\n
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        > **Motivation**\n
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        > I’ve had experiences with Atom, VS Code and some of Jetbrains’ IDEs like Pycharm and Rider. While I’ve been generally content with all of them, it leaves a bad taste in my mouth whenever I’m forced to switch IDEs because their lifetimes and/or lack of extensibility doesn’t allow me to responsibly continue using them. As such, I’m interested in a long time investment that will grow as I will. Both Emacs and (Neo)Vim have passed the test of time and I honestly don’t think they’ll cease to exist in the upcoming decades, that’s why I would love to start using either one of them.\n
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        > Furthermore, Vi(m) keybindings seem to be somewhat ubiquitous and almost any IDE offers some support. As such, improving my Vi(m)-game should only net-positive my productivity (at least eventually). Also, fluency will benefit me whenever I’m remote accessing any random server as they will always have Vi(m) installed. Thankfully, this doesn’t force me to use Vi(m) (or Neovim) just yet, because Emacs offers with Evil perhaps the single best Vi(m) implementation; outside of native Vi(m)*.\n
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        > **My setup:**\n
        > \n
        > - I’m on a custom image of [uBlue](https://ublue.it) using their [startingpoint](https://github.com/ublue-os/startingpoint) as template. For those unaware; an oversimplification would be that it is Fedora Silverblue with some extras.\n
        > - As such, I would like to have my developer environments local and have used [Distrobox](https://github.com/89luca89/distrobox) to that extent using steps similar to the ones outlined over [here](https://blog.niklas.tech/intellij-and-java-on-immutable-linux). But I’m not married to that specific way of utilizing local containers. So please feel free to recommend me something that’s at least as good.\n
        > - If I go for Emacs, then I will definitely rely on Evil.\n
        > - If possible, I would like to use it for C#, Python and Rust. Furthermore, I engage in editing Bash scripts, Dockerfiles, Linux config files, texts written in Latex and/or Markdown and other files written in Nix or JSON. As both are very extensible, I don’t expect any issues, but I might be wrong.\n
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        > **Questions:**\n
        > \n
        > - First of all, does it make sense for me to only consider these two?\n
        > - Can the split between Vim and Neovim be interpreted as the first schism and as such be a forebode for what’s yet to come?\n
        > - [Google Trends](https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%205-y&q=%2Fm%2F07zh7,%2Fg%2F11f3w6p14d,%2Fm%2F01yp0m&hl=en-US) suggests that Neo(Vim) is ever-popular. On the other hand; not only is Emacs relatively less popular, but its popularity seems to be slightly declining. Should this worry me regarding their long-time future? Especially considering that a thriving community is literally the lifeline for both of them.\n
        > - For those that have used both extensively, which one do you prefer (if any) and why?\n
        > - While I understand that the power of both of them lies primarily in how one can literally make them behave however suits their workflow best. Therefore, the use of premade configs and/or starter kits/distributions should (ideally) only be used either temporary or as a starting point. However, at this point, they provide a decent showcase of what each *‘platform’* has to offer. So: \n
        >     - Regarding Emacs; [Doom Emacs](https://github.com/doomemacs/doomemacs) or [Spacemacs](https://github.com/syl20bnr/spacemacs)? And why?\n
        >     - Regarding Neovim; there are a lot, but the big ones seem to be [AstroNvim](https://github.com/AstroNvim/AstroNvim), [LazyVim](https://github.com/LazyVim/LazyVim), [LunarVim](https://github.com/LunarVim/LunarVim) and [NvChad](https://github.com/NvChad/NvChad). Which one and why?
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            I use Emacs + spacemacs in VI mode as a base for all my text editing on both Linux and windows (which is unfortunately required for work on occasion) machines.\n
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            For dev environments I mostly use nix + direnv + direnv-mode.\n
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            For C# I use the above plus omnisharp-roslyn + lsp-mode.\n
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            > Or is the usage of Spacemacs primarily attributable to it coming earlier to the scene?\n
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            What I described isn’t using containers. Nix just provides an environment for processes to run in, and direnv-mode ensures it’s using the right environment for a given buffer in Emacs. So for example I don’t have `OmniSharp` or `dotnet` in my user $PATH, but they are provided by the nix expression in a particular project directory. That allows lsp-mode to start `OmniSharp` as a language server, or I can run `dotnet build` using the Emacs `compile` command.\n
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            You can define containers with nix and manage them with `nixos-container`. I do that for testing server deployments, or running sandboxed services, but I’ve never needed something that complex for a dev shell.
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            > I want to have a better idea for much time is spend on ‘management’; fix, extend and/or automate etc.\n
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      > I assume this is due to the amount of effort that would have been required for it to acquire some of the functionality you were expecting out of it. Am I right?\n
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      +title: "Looking for input regarding finding an IDE (spoilers: involves Emacs and Vim)"
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        cross-posted from: [lemmy.ml/post/9648279](https://lemmy.ml/post/9648279)\n
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        > I would like to premise this with the following:\n
        > \n
        > - The best approach is probably just testing out each and every editor that interests me until I’ve found what works best for me. \n
        >     - However, I wonder to what degree a test as such would be representative when the likes of Emacs and (Neo)Vim are considered; both of which are known for being a life time learning process.\n
        > - I don’t literally expect Emacs or (Neo)Vim to be drop-in replacements for any IDE. Some of the most basic IDE-functions are absent by default and some (perhaps more advanced) functionality might simply not be attainable at all.\n
        > - I am not interested in anything that remotely resembles a flame war. The community at Lemmy has so far been very kind to me; let’s keep it that way 😜.\n
        > \n
        > ---\n
        > \n
        > **Motivation**\n
        > \n
        > I’ve had experiences with Atom, VS Code and some of Jetbrains’ IDEs like Pycharm and Rider. While I’ve been generally content with all of them, it leaves a bad taste in my mouth whenever I’m forced to switch IDEs because their lifetimes and/or lack of extensibility doesn’t allow me to responsibly continue using them. As such, I’m interested in a long time investment that will grow as I will. Both Emacs and (Neo)Vim have passed the test of time and I honestly don’t think they’ll cease to exist in the upcoming decades, that’s why I would love to start using either one of them.\n
        > \n
        > Furthermore, Vi(m) keybindings seem to be somewhat ubiquitous and almost any IDE offers some support. As such, improving my Vi(m)-game should only net-positive my productivity (at least eventually). Also, fluency will benefit me whenever I’m remote accessing any random server as they will always have Vi(m) installed. Thankfully, this doesn’t force me to use Vi(m) (or Neovim) just yet, because Emacs offers with Evil perhaps the single best Vi(m) implementation; outside of native Vi(m)*.\n
        > \n
        > **My setup:**\n
        > \n
        > - I’m on a custom image of [uBlue](https://ublue.it) using their [startingpoint](https://github.com/ublue-os/startingpoint) as template. For those unaware; an oversimplification would be that it is Fedora Silverblue with some extras.\n
        > - As such, I would like to have my developer environments local and have used [Distrobox](https://github.com/89luca89/distrobox) to that extent using steps similar to the ones outlined over [here](https://blog.niklas.tech/intellij-and-java-on-immutable-linux). But I’m not married to that specific way of utilizing local containers. So please feel free to recommend me something that’s at least as good.\n
        > - If I go for Emacs, then I will definitely rely on Evil.\n
        > - If possible, I would like to use it for C#, Python and Rust. Furthermore, I engage in editing Bash scripts, Dockerfiles, Linux config files, texts written in Latex and/or Markdown and other files written in Nix or JSON. As both are very extensible, I don’t expect any issues, but I might be wrong.\n
        > \n
        > **Questions:**\n
        > \n
        > - First of all, does it make sense for me to only consider these two?\n
        > - Can the split between Vim and Neovim be interpreted as the first schism and as such be a forebode for what’s yet to come?\n
        > - [Google Trends](https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%205-y&q=%2Fm%2F07zh7,%2Fg%2F11f3w6p14d,%2Fm%2F01yp0m&hl=en-US) suggests that Neo(Vim) is ever-popular. On the other hand; not only is Emacs relatively less popular, but its popularity seems to be slightly declining. Should this worry me regarding their long-time future? Especially considering that a thriving community is literally the lifeline for both of them.\n
        > - For those that have used both extensively, which one do you prefer (if any) and why?\n
        > - While I understand that the power of both of them lies primarily in how one can literally make them behave however suits their workflow best. Therefore, the use of premade configs and/or starter kits/distributions should (ideally) only be used either temporary or as a starting point. However, at this point, they provide a decent showcase of what each *‘platform’* has to offer. So: \n
        >     - Regarding Emacs; [Doom Emacs](https://github.com/doomemacs/doomemacs) or [Spacemacs](https://github.com/syl20bnr/spacemacs)? And why?\n
        >     - Regarding Neovim; there are a lot, but the big ones seem to be [AstroNvim](https://github.com/AstroNvim/AstroNvim), [LazyVim](https://github.com/LazyVim/LazyVim), [LunarVim](https://github.com/LunarVim/LunarVim) and [NvChad](https://github.com/NvChad/NvChad). Which one and why?
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            I use Emacs + spacemacs in VI mode as a base for all my text editing on both Linux and windows (which is unfortunately required for work on occasion) machines.\n
            \n
            For dev environments I mostly use nix + direnv + direnv-mode.\n
            \n
            For C# I use the above plus omnisharp-roslyn + lsp-mode.\n
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            I tinker in all sorts of languages, and they all have at least basic support in the Emacs ecosystem. The popular ones should have fully functional language servers and debugger adapters.
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            > Or is the usage of Spacemacs primarily attributable to it coming earlier to the scene?\n
            \n
            Yeah, pretty much just that. If was to start again now I’d consider other options, but I have no serious complaints about spacemacs. I probably would have never got into Emacs at all if I had to start with vanilla.\n
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            > Furthermore, as you’re using it in “VI mode”, would it be fair to assume that you’ve got some experience/history with Neo(Vim) as well? If so, what led you to making the switch from (Neo)Vim to Emacs?\n
            \n
            Yeah, I used VIM (and I still do when I’m in an unfamiliar environment), but only before neovim existed. IMO Lisp is what makes Emacs great, and vimscript is (was?) an absolute nightmare for anything complex. I don’t think lua is a bad language, but I’ll still take Lisp any day for this purpose.\n
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            > I’ve also got my concerns related to what degree the containers can be sandboxed. Do you happen to have some insights on this?\n
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            What I described isn’t using containers. Nix just provides an environment for processes to run in, and direnv-mode ensures it’s using the right environment for a given buffer in Emacs. So for example I don’t have `OmniSharp` or `dotnet` in my user $PATH, but they are provided by the nix expression in a particular project directory. That allows lsp-mode to start `OmniSharp` as a language server, or I can run `dotnet build` using the Emacs `compile` command.\n
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            You can define containers with nix and manage them with `nixos-container`. I do that for testing server deployments, or running sandboxed services, but I’ve never needed something that complex for a dev shell.
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            > I want to have a better idea for much time is spend on ‘management’; fix, extend and/or automate etc.\n
            \n
            Not that much really. I usually upgrade everything once a month or so. The last couple of times were smooth. I think the last problem I hit was:\n
            \n
            [github.com/emacs-lsp/lsp-mode/issues/4153](https://github.com/emacs-lsp/lsp-mode/issues/4153)\n
            \n
            This was actually triggered by upgrading omnisharp, which started sending a new notification that lsp-mode didn’t explicitly ignore.\n
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            By the time I hit it, that issue had already been reported, so I was able to quickly work around it with a snippet in my main config. I could have also just rolled back omnisharp.\n
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            Most problems I’ve had have been solved by upgrading spacemacs to latest.
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        cross-posted from: [lemmy.ml/post/9648279](https://lemmy.ml/post/9648279)\n
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        > I would like to premise this with the following:\n
        > \n
        > - The best approach is probably just testing out each and every editor that interests me until I’ve found what works best for me. \n
        >     - However, I wonder to what degree a test as such would be representative when the likes of Emacs and (Neo)Vim are considered; both of which are known for being a life time learning process.\n
        > - I don’t literally expect Emacs or (Neo)Vim to be drop-in replacements for any IDE. Some of the most basic IDE-functions are absent by default and some (perhaps more advanced) functionality might simply not be attainable at all.\n
        > - I am not interested in anything that remotely resembles a flame war. The community at Lemmy has so far been very kind to me; let’s keep it that way 😜.\n
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        > ---\n
        > \n
        > **Motivation**\n
        > \n
        > I’ve had experiences with Atom, VS Code and some of Jetbrains’ IDEs like Pycharm and Rider. While I’ve been generally content with all of them, it leaves a bad taste in my mouth whenever I’m forced to switch IDEs because their lifetimes and/or lack of extensibility doesn’t allow me to responsibly continue using them. As such, I’m interested in a long time investment that will grow as I will. Both Emacs and (Neo)Vim have passed the test of time and I honestly don’t think they’ll cease to exist in the upcoming decades, that’s why I would love to start using either one of them.\n
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        > Furthermore, Vi(m) keybindings seem to be somewhat ubiquitous and almost any IDE offers some support. As such, improving my Vi(m)-game should only net-positive my productivity (at least eventually). Also, fluency will benefit me whenever I’m remote accessing any random server as they will always have Vi(m) installed. Thankfully, this doesn’t force me to use Vi(m) (or Neovim) just yet, because Emacs offers with Evil perhaps the single best Vi(m) implementation; outside of native Vi(m)*.\n
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        > **My setup:**\n
        > \n
        > - I’m on a custom image of [uBlue](https://ublue.it) using their [startingpoint](https://github.com/ublue-os/startingpoint) as template. For those unaware; an oversimplification would be that it is Fedora Silverblue with some extras.\n
        > - As such, I would like to have my developer environments local and have used [Distrobox](https://github.com/89luca89/distrobox) to that extent using steps similar to the ones outlined over [here](https://blog.niklas.tech/intellij-and-java-on-immutable-linux). But I’m not married to that specific way of utilizing local containers. So please feel free to recommend me something that’s at least as good.\n
        > - If I go for Emacs, then I will definitely rely on Evil.\n
        > - If possible, I would like to use it for C#, Python and Rust. Furthermore, I engage in editing Bash scripts, Dockerfiles, Linux config files, texts written in Latex and/or Markdown and other files written in Nix or JSON. As both are very extensible, I don’t expect any issues, but I might be wrong.\n
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        > **Questions:**\n
        > \n
        > - First of all, does it make sense for me to only consider these two?\n
        > - Can the split between Vim and Neovim be interpreted as the first schism and as such be a forebode for what’s yet to come?\n
        > - [Google Trends](https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%205-y&q=%2Fm%2F07zh7,%2Fg%2F11f3w6p14d,%2Fm%2F01yp0m&hl=en-US) suggests that Neo(Vim) is ever-popular. On the other hand; not only is Emacs relatively less popular, but its popularity seems to be slightly declining. Should this worry me regarding their long-time future? Especially considering that a thriving community is literally the lifeline for both of them.\n
        > - For those that have used both extensively, which one do you prefer (if any) and why?\n
        > - While I understand that the power of both of them lies primarily in how one can literally make them behave however suits their workflow best. Therefore, the use of premade configs and/or starter kits/distributions should (ideally) only be used either temporary or as a starting point. However, at this point, they provide a decent showcase of what each *‘platform’* has to offer. So: \n
        >     - Regarding Emacs; [Doom Emacs](https://github.com/doomemacs/doomemacs) or [Spacemacs](https://github.com/syl20bnr/spacemacs)? And why?\n
        >     - Regarding Neovim; there are a lot, but the big ones seem to be [AstroNvim](https://github.com/AstroNvim/AstroNvim), [LazyVim](https://github.com/LazyVim/LazyVim), [LunarVim](https://github.com/LunarVim/LunarVim) and [NvChad](https://github.com/NvChad/NvChad). Which one and why?
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            I use Emacs + spacemacs in VI mode as a base for all my text editing on both Linux and windows (which is unfortunately required for work on occasion) machines.\n
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            For dev environments I mostly use nix + direnv + direnv-mode.\n
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            For C# I use the above plus omnisharp-roslyn + lsp-mode.\n
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            > Or is the usage of Spacemacs primarily attributable to it coming earlier to the scene?\n
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            Yeah, pretty much just that. If was to start again now I’d consider other options, but I have no serious complaints about spacemacs. I probably would have never got into Emacs at all if I had to start with vanilla.\n
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            > I want to have a better idea for much time is spend on ‘management’; fix, extend and/or automate etc.\n
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        cross-posted from: [lemmy.ml/post/9648279](https://lemmy.ml/post/9648279)\n
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        > I would like to premise this with the following:\n
        > \n
        > - The best approach is probably just testing out each and every editor that interests me until I’ve found what works best for me. \n
        >     - However, I wonder to what degree a test as such would be representative when the likes of Emacs and (Neo)Vim are considered; both of which are known for being a life time learning process.\n
        > - I don’t literally expect Emacs or (Neo)Vim to be drop-in replacements for any IDE. Some of the most basic IDE-functions are absent by default and some (perhaps more advanced) functionality might simply not be attainable at all.\n
        > - I am not interested in anything that remotely resembles a flame war. The community at Lemmy has so far been very kind to me; let’s keep it that way 😜.\n
        > \n
        > ---\n
        > \n
        > **Motivation**\n
        > \n
        > I’ve had experiences with Atom, VS Code and some of Jetbrains’ IDEs like Pycharm and Rider. While I’ve been generally content with all of them, it leaves a bad taste in my mouth whenever I’m forced to switch IDEs because their lifetimes and/or lack of extensibility doesn’t allow me to responsibly continue using them. As such, I’m interested in a long time investment that will grow as I will. Both Emacs and (Neo)Vim have passed the test of time and I honestly don’t think they’ll cease to exist in the upcoming decades, that’s why I would love to start using either one of them.\n
        > \n
        > Furthermore, Vi(m) keybindings seem to be somewhat ubiquitous and almost any IDE offers some support. As such, improving my Vi(m)-game should only net-positive my productivity (at least eventually). Also, fluency will benefit me whenever I’m remote accessing any random server as they will always have Vi(m) installed. Thankfully, this doesn’t force me to use Vi(m) (or Neovim) just yet, because Emacs offers with Evil perhaps the single best Vi(m) implementation; outside of native Vi(m)*.\n
        > \n
        > **My setup:**\n
        > \n
        > - I’m on a custom image of [uBlue](https://ublue.it) using their [startingpoint](https://github.com/ublue-os/startingpoint) as template. For those unaware; an oversimplification would be that it is Fedora Silverblue with some extras.\n
        > - As such, I would like to have my developer environments local and have used [Distrobox](https://github.com/89luca89/distrobox) to that extent using steps similar to the ones outlined over [here](https://blog.niklas.tech/intellij-and-java-on-immutable-linux). But I’m not married to that specific way of utilizing local containers. So please feel free to recommend me something that’s at least as good.\n
        > - If I go for Emacs, then I will definitely rely on Evil.\n
        > - If possible, I would like to use it for C#, Python and Rust. Furthermore, I engage in editing Bash scripts, Dockerfiles, Linux config files, texts written in Latex and/or Markdown and other files written in Nix or JSON. As both are very extensible, I don’t expect any issues, but I might be wrong.\n
        > \n
        > **Questions:**\n
        > \n
        > - First of all, does it make sense for me to only consider these two?\n
        > - Can the split between Vim and Neovim be interpreted as the first schism and as such be a forebode for what’s yet to come?\n
        > - [Google Trends](https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%205-y&q=%2Fm%2F07zh7,%2Fg%2F11f3w6p14d,%2Fm%2F01yp0m&hl=en-US) suggests that Neo(Vim) is ever-popular. On the other hand; not only is Emacs relatively less popular, but its popularity seems to be slightly declining. Should this worry me regarding their long-time future? Especially considering that a thriving community is literally the lifeline for both of them.\n
        > - For those that have used both extensively, which one do you prefer (if any) and why?\n
        > - While I understand that the power of both of them lies primarily in how one can literally make them behave however suits their workflow best. Therefore, the use of premade configs and/or starter kits/distributions should (ideally) only be used either temporary or as a starting point. However, at this point, they provide a decent showcase of what each *‘platform’* has to offer. So: \n
        >     - Regarding Emacs; [Doom Emacs](https://github.com/doomemacs/doomemacs) or [Spacemacs](https://github.com/syl20bnr/spacemacs)? And why?\n
        >     - Regarding Neovim; there are a lot, but the big ones seem to be [AstroNvim](https://github.com/AstroNvim/AstroNvim), [LazyVim](https://github.com/LazyVim/LazyVim), [LunarVim](https://github.com/LunarVim/LunarVim) and [NvChad](https://github.com/NvChad/NvChad). Which one and why?
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            I use Emacs + spacemacs in VI mode as a base for all my text editing on both Linux and windows (which is unfortunately required for work on occasion) machines.\n
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            For dev environments I mostly use nix + direnv + direnv-mode.\n
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            For C# I use the above plus omnisharp-roslyn + lsp-mode.\n
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            I tinker in all sorts of languages, and they all have at least basic support in the Emacs ecosystem. The popular ones should have fully functional language servers and debugger adapters.
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            > Or is the usage of Spacemacs primarily attributable to it coming earlier to the scene?\n
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            Yeah, pretty much just that. If was to start again now I’d consider other options, but I have no serious complaints about spacemacs. I probably would have never got into Emacs at all if I had to start with vanilla.\n
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            > Furthermore, as you’re using it in “VI mode”, would it be fair to assume that you’ve got some experience/history with Neo(Vim) as well? If so, what led you to making the switch from (Neo)Vim to Emacs?\n
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            Yeah, I used VIM (and I still do when I’m in an unfamiliar environment), but only before neovim existed. IMO Lisp is what makes Emacs great, and vimscript is (was?) an absolute nightmare for anything complex. I don’t think lua is a bad language, but I’ll still take Lisp any day for this purpose.\n
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            What I described isn’t using containers. Nix just provides an environment for processes to run in, and direnv-mode ensures it’s using the right environment for a given buffer in Emacs. So for example I don’t have `OmniSharp` or `dotnet` in my user $PATH, but they are provided by the nix expression in a particular project directory. That allows lsp-mode to start `OmniSharp` as a language server, or I can run `dotnet build` using the Emacs `compile` command.\n
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            You can define containers with nix and manage them with `nixos-container`. I do that for testing server deployments, or running sandboxed services, but I’ve never needed something that complex for a dev shell.
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            > I want to have a better idea for much time is spend on ‘management’; fix, extend and/or automate etc.\n
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            Not that much really. I usually upgrade everything once a month or so. The last couple of times were smooth. I think the last problem I hit was:\n
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        > I would like to premise this with the following:\n
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        > - The best approach is probably just testing out each and every editor that interests me until I’ve found what works best for me. \n
        >     - However, I wonder to what degree a test as such would be representative when the likes of Emacs and (Neo)Vim are considered; both of which are known for being a life time learning process.\n
        > - I don’t literally expect Emacs or (Neo)Vim to be drop-in replacements for any IDE. Some of the most basic IDE-functions are absent by default and some (perhaps more advanced) functionality might simply not be attainable at all.\n
        > - I am not interested in anything that remotely resembles a flame war. The community at Lemmy has so far been very kind to me; let’s keep it that way 😜.\n
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        > I’ve had experiences with Atom, VS Code and some of Jetbrains’ IDEs like Pycharm and Rider. While I’ve been generally content with all of them, it leaves a bad taste in my mouth whenever I’m forced to switch IDEs because their lifetimes and/or lack of extensibility doesn’t allow me to responsibly continue using them. As such, I’m interested in a long time investment that will grow as I will. Both Emacs and (Neo)Vim have passed the test of time and I honestly don’t think they’ll cease to exist in the upcoming decades, that’s why I would love to start using either one of them.\n
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        > Furthermore, Vi(m) keybindings seem to be somewhat ubiquitous and almost any IDE offers some support. As such, improving my Vi(m)-game should only net-positive my productivity (at least eventually). Also, fluency will benefit me whenever I’m remote accessing any random server as they will always have Vi(m) installed. Thankfully, this doesn’t force me to use Vi(m) (or Neovim) just yet, because Emacs offers with Evil perhaps the single best Vi(m) implementation; outside of native Vi(m)*.\n
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        > **My setup:**\n
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        > - I’m on a custom image of [uBlue](https://ublue.it) using their [startingpoint](https://github.com/ublue-os/startingpoint) as template. For those unaware; an oversimplification would be that it is Fedora Silverblue with some extras.\n
        > - As such, I would like to have my developer environments local and have used [Distrobox](https://github.com/89luca89/distrobox) to that extent using steps similar to the ones outlined over [here](https://blog.niklas.tech/intellij-and-java-on-immutable-linux). But I’m not married to that specific way of utilizing local containers. So please feel free to recommend me something that’s at least as good.\n
        > - If I go for Emacs, then I will definitely rely on Evil.\n
        > - If possible, I would like to use it for C#, Python and Rust. Furthermore, I engage in editing Bash scripts, Dockerfiles, Linux config files, texts written in Latex and/or Markdown and other files written in Nix or JSON. As both are very extensible, I don’t expect any issues, but I might be wrong.\n
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        > **Questions:**\n
        > \n
        > - First of all, does it make sense for me to only consider these two?\n
        > - Can the split between Vim and Neovim be interpreted as the first schism and as such be a forebode for what’s yet to come?\n
        > - [Google Trends](https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%205-y&q=%2Fm%2F07zh7,%2Fg%2F11f3w6p14d,%2Fm%2F01yp0m&hl=en-US) suggests that Neo(Vim) is ever-popular. On the other hand; not only is Emacs relatively less popular, but its popularity seems to be slightly declining. Should this worry me regarding their long-time future? Especially considering that a thriving community is literally the lifeline for both of them.\n
        > - For those that have used both extensively, which one do you prefer (if any) and why?\n
        > - While I understand that the power of both of them lies primarily in how one can literally make them behave however suits their workflow best. Therefore, the use of premade configs and/or starter kits/distributions should (ideally) only be used either temporary or as a starting point. However, at this point, they provide a decent showcase of what each *‘platform’* has to offer. So: \n
        >     - Regarding Emacs; [Doom Emacs](https://github.com/doomemacs/doomemacs) or [Spacemacs](https://github.com/syl20bnr/spacemacs)? And why?\n
        >     - Regarding Neovim; there are a lot, but the big ones seem to be [AstroNvim](https://github.com/AstroNvim/AstroNvim), [LazyVim](https://github.com/LazyVim/LazyVim), [LunarVim](https://github.com/LunarVim/LunarVim) and [NvChad](https://github.com/NvChad/NvChad). Which one and why?
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            I use Emacs + spacemacs in VI mode as a base for all my text editing on both Linux and windows (which is unfortunately required for work on occasion) machines.\n
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            > Or is the usage of Spacemacs primarily attributable to it coming earlier to the scene?\n
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            > I want to have a better idea for much time is spend on ‘management’; fix, extend and/or automate etc.\n
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      > I assume this is due to the amount of effort that would have been required for it to acquire some of the functionality you were expecting out of it. Am I right?\n
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      I didn’t really understand what Emacs was at the time, I just got fed up with trying to make vim into an IDE. Out of the box, spacemacs had good language support, modal editing, and looked ‘modern’.\n
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        cross-posted from: [lemmy.ml/post/9648279](https://lemmy.ml/post/9648279)\n
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        > I would like to premise this with the following:\n
        > \n
        > - The best approach is probably just testing out each and every editor that interests me until I’ve found what works best for me. \n
        >     - However, I wonder to what degree a test as such would be representative when the likes of Emacs and (Neo)Vim are considered; both of which are known for being a life time learning process.\n
        > - I don’t literally expect Emacs or (Neo)Vim to be drop-in replacements for any IDE. Some of the most basic IDE-functions are absent by default and some (perhaps more advanced) functionality might simply not be attainable at all.\n
        > - I am not interested in anything that remotely resembles a flame war. The community at Lemmy has so far been very kind to me; let’s keep it that way 😜.\n
        > \n
        > ---\n
        > \n
        > **Motivation**\n
        > \n
        > I’ve had experiences with Atom, VS Code and some of Jetbrains’ IDEs like Pycharm and Rider. While I’ve been generally content with all of them, it leaves a bad taste in my mouth whenever I’m forced to switch IDEs because their lifetimes and/or lack of extensibility doesn’t allow me to responsibly continue using them. As such, I’m interested in a long time investment that will grow as I will. Both Emacs and (Neo)Vim have passed the test of time and I honestly don’t think they’ll cease to exist in the upcoming decades, that’s why I would love to start using either one of them.\n
        > \n
        > Furthermore, Vi(m) keybindings seem to be somewhat ubiquitous and almost any IDE offers some support. As such, improving my Vi(m)-game should only net-positive my productivity (at least eventually). Also, fluency will benefit me whenever I’m remote accessing any random server as they will always have Vi(m) installed. Thankfully, this doesn’t force me to use Vi(m) (or Neovim) just yet, because Emacs offers with Evil perhaps the single best Vi(m) implementation; outside of native Vi(m)*.\n
        > \n
        > **My setup:**\n
        > \n
        > - I’m on a custom image of [uBlue](https://ublue.it) using their [startingpoint](https://github.com/ublue-os/startingpoint) as template. For those unaware; an oversimplification would be that it is Fedora Silverblue with some extras.\n
        > - As such, I would like to have my developer environments local and have used [Distrobox](https://github.com/89luca89/distrobox) to that extent using steps similar to the ones outlined over [here](https://blog.niklas.tech/intellij-and-java-on-immutable-linux). But I’m not married to that specific way of utilizing local containers. So please feel free to recommend me something that’s at least as good.\n
        > - If I go for Emacs, then I will definitely rely on Evil.\n
        > - If possible, I would like to use it for C#, Python and Rust. Furthermore, I engage in editing Bash scripts, Dockerfiles, Linux config files, texts written in Latex and/or Markdown and other files written in Nix or JSON. As both are very extensible, I don’t expect any issues, but I might be wrong.\n
        > \n
        > **Questions:**\n
        > \n
        > - First of all, does it make sense for me to only consider these two?\n
        > - Can the split between Vim and Neovim be interpreted as the first schism and as such be a forebode for what’s yet to come?\n
        > - [Google Trends](https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%205-y&q=%2Fm%2F07zh7,%2Fg%2F11f3w6p14d,%2Fm%2F01yp0m&hl=en-US) suggests that Neo(Vim) is ever-popular. On the other hand; not only is Emacs relatively less popular, but its popularity seems to be slightly declining. Should this worry me regarding their long-time future? Especially considering that a thriving community is literally the lifeline for both of them.\n
        > - For those that have used both extensively, which one do you prefer (if any) and why?\n
        > - While I understand that the power of both of them lies primarily in how one can literally make them behave however suits their workflow best. Therefore, the use of premade configs and/or starter kits/distributions should (ideally) only be used either temporary or as a starting point. However, at this point, they provide a decent showcase of what each *‘platform’* has to offer. So: \n
        >     - Regarding Emacs; [Doom Emacs](https://github.com/doomemacs/doomemacs) or [Spacemacs](https://github.com/syl20bnr/spacemacs)? And why?\n
        >     - Regarding Neovim; there are a lot, but the big ones seem to be [AstroNvim](https://github.com/AstroNvim/AstroNvim), [LazyVim](https://github.com/LazyVim/LazyVim), [LunarVim](https://github.com/LunarVim/LunarVim) and [NvChad](https://github.com/NvChad/NvChad). Which one and why?
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            I use Emacs + spacemacs in VI mode as a base for all my text editing on both Linux and windows (which is unfortunately required for work on occasion) machines.\n
            \n
            For dev environments I mostly use nix + direnv + direnv-mode.\n
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            For C# I use the above plus omnisharp-roslyn + lsp-mode.\n
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            I tinker in all sorts of languages, and they all have at least basic support in the Emacs ecosystem. The popular ones should have fully functional language servers and debugger adapters.
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            > Or is the usage of Spacemacs primarily attributable to it coming earlier to the scene?\n
            \n
            Yeah, pretty much just that. If was to start again now I’d consider other options, but I have no serious complaints about spacemacs. I probably would have never got into Emacs at all if I had to start with vanilla.\n
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            > Furthermore, as you’re using it in “VI mode”, would it be fair to assume that you’ve got some experience/history with Neo(Vim) as well? If so, what led you to making the switch from (Neo)Vim to Emacs?\n
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            Yeah, I used VIM (and I still do when I’m in an unfamiliar environment), but only before neovim existed. IMO Lisp is what makes Emacs great, and vimscript is (was?) an absolute nightmare for anything complex. I don’t think lua is a bad language, but I’ll still take Lisp any day for this purpose.\n
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            > I’ve also got my concerns related to what degree the containers can be sandboxed. Do you happen to have some insights on this?\n
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            What I described isn’t using containers. Nix just provides an environment for processes to run in, and direnv-mode ensures it’s using the right environment for a given buffer in Emacs. So for example I don’t have `OmniSharp` or `dotnet` in my user $PATH, but they are provided by the nix expression in a particular project directory. That allows lsp-mode to start `OmniSharp` as a language server, or I can run `dotnet build` using the Emacs `compile` command.\n
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            You can define containers with nix and manage them with `nixos-container`. I do that for testing server deployments, or running sandboxed services, but I’ve never needed something that complex for a dev shell.
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            > I want to have a better idea for much time is spend on ‘management’; fix, extend and/or automate etc.\n
            \n
            Not that much really. I usually upgrade everything once a month or so. The last couple of times were smooth. I think the last problem I hit was:\n
            \n
            [github.com/emacs-lsp/lsp-mode/issues/4153](https://github.com/emacs-lsp/lsp-mode/issues/4153)\n
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      > I assume this is due to the amount of effort that would have been required for it to acquire some of the functionality you were expecting out of it. Am I right?\n
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        cross-posted from: [lemmy.ml/post/9648279](https://lemmy.ml/post/9648279)\n
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        > I would like to premise this with the following:\n
        > \n
        > - The best approach is probably just testing out each and every editor that interests me until I’ve found what works best for me. \n
        >     - However, I wonder to what degree a test as such would be representative when the likes of Emacs and (Neo)Vim are considered; both of which are known for being a life time learning process.\n
        > - I don’t literally expect Emacs or (Neo)Vim to be drop-in replacements for any IDE. Some of the most basic IDE-functions are absent by default and some (perhaps more advanced) functionality might simply not be attainable at all.\n
        > - I am not interested in anything that remotely resembles a flame war. The community at Lemmy has so far been very kind to me; let’s keep it that way 😜.\n
        > \n
        > ---\n
        > \n
        > **Motivation**\n
        > \n
        > I’ve had experiences with Atom, VS Code and some of Jetbrains’ IDEs like Pycharm and Rider. While I’ve been generally content with all of them, it leaves a bad taste in my mouth whenever I’m forced to switch IDEs because their lifetimes and/or lack of extensibility doesn’t allow me to responsibly continue using them. As such, I’m interested in a long time investment that will grow as I will. Both Emacs and (Neo)Vim have passed the test of time and I honestly don’t think they’ll cease to exist in the upcoming decades, that’s why I would love to start using either one of them.\n
        > \n
        > Furthermore, Vi(m) keybindings seem to be somewhat ubiquitous and almost any IDE offers some support. As such, improving my Vi(m)-game should only net-positive my productivity (at least eventually). Also, fluency will benefit me whenever I’m remote accessing any random server as they will always have Vi(m) installed. Thankfully, this doesn’t force me to use Vi(m) (or Neovim) just yet, because Emacs offers with Evil perhaps the single best Vi(m) implementation; outside of native Vi(m)*.\n
        > \n
        > **My setup:**\n
        > \n
        > - I’m on a custom image of [uBlue](https://ublue.it) using their [startingpoint](https://github.com/ublue-os/startingpoint) as template. For those unaware; an oversimplification would be that it is Fedora Silverblue with some extras.\n
        > - As such, I would like to have my developer environments local and have used [Distrobox](https://github.com/89luca89/distrobox) to that extent using steps similar to the ones outlined over [here](https://blog.niklas.tech/intellij-and-java-on-immutable-linux). But I’m not married to that specific way of utilizing local containers. So please feel free to recommend me something that’s at least as good.\n
        > - If I go for Emacs, then I will definitely rely on Evil.\n
        > - If possible, I would like to use it for C#, Python and Rust. Furthermore, I engage in editing Bash scripts, Dockerfiles, Linux config files, texts written in Latex and/or Markdown and other files written in Nix or JSON. As both are very extensible, I don’t expect any issues, but I might be wrong.\n
        > \n
        > **Questions:**\n
        > \n
        > - First of all, does it make sense for me to only consider these two?\n
        > - Can the split between Vim and Neovim be interpreted as the first schism and as such be a forebode for what’s yet to come?\n
        > - [Google Trends](https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%205-y&q=%2Fm%2F07zh7,%2Fg%2F11f3w6p14d,%2Fm%2F01yp0m&hl=en-US) suggests that Neo(Vim) is ever-popular. On the other hand; not only is Emacs relatively less popular, but its popularity seems to be slightly declining. Should this worry me regarding their long-time future? Especially considering that a thriving community is literally the lifeline for both of them.\n
        > - For those that have used both extensively, which one do you prefer (if any) and why?\n
        > - While I understand that the power of both of them lies primarily in how one can literally make them behave however suits their workflow best. Therefore, the use of premade configs and/or starter kits/distributions should (ideally) only be used either temporary or as a starting point. However, at this point, they provide a decent showcase of what each *‘platform’* has to offer. So: \n
        >     - Regarding Emacs; [Doom Emacs](https://github.com/doomemacs/doomemacs) or [Spacemacs](https://github.com/syl20bnr/spacemacs)? And why?\n
        >     - Regarding Neovim; there are a lot, but the big ones seem to be [AstroNvim](https://github.com/AstroNvim/AstroNvim), [LazyVim](https://github.com/LazyVim/LazyVim), [LunarVim](https://github.com/LunarVim/LunarVim) and [NvChad](https://github.com/NvChad/NvChad). Which one and why?
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            I use Emacs + spacemacs in VI mode as a base for all my text editing on both Linux and windows (which is unfortunately required for work on occasion) machines.\n
            \n
            For dev environments I mostly use nix + direnv + direnv-mode.\n
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            For C# I use the above plus omnisharp-roslyn + lsp-mode.\n
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            I tinker in all sorts of languages, and they all have at least basic support in the Emacs ecosystem. The popular ones should have fully functional language servers and debugger adapters.
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            > Or is the usage of Spacemacs primarily attributable to it coming earlier to the scene?\n
            \n
            Yeah, pretty much just that. If was to start again now I’d consider other options, but I have no serious complaints about spacemacs. I probably would have never got into Emacs at all if I had to start with vanilla.\n
            \n
            > Furthermore, as you’re using it in “VI mode”, would it be fair to assume that you’ve got some experience/history with Neo(Vim) as well? If so, what led you to making the switch from (Neo)Vim to Emacs?\n
            \n
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            What I described isn’t using containers. Nix just provides an environment for processes to run in, and direnv-mode ensures it’s using the right environment for a given buffer in Emacs. So for example I don’t have `OmniSharp` or `dotnet` in my user $PATH, but they are provided by the nix expression in a particular project directory. That allows lsp-mode to start `OmniSharp` as a language server, or I can run `dotnet build` using the Emacs `compile` command.\n
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            You can define containers with nix and manage them with `nixos-container`. I do that for testing server deployments, or running sandboxed services, but I’ve never needed something that complex for a dev shell.
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            > I assume this is due to the amount of effort that would have been required for it to acquire some of the functionality you were expecting out of it. Am I right?\n
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      > I want to have a better idea for much time is spend on ‘management’; fix, extend and/or automate etc.\n
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      Not that much really. I usually upgrade everything once a month or so. The last couple of times were smooth. I think the last problem I hit was:\n
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      [github.com/emacs-lsp/lsp-mode/issues/4153](https://github.com/emacs-lsp/lsp-mode/issues/4153)\n
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      By the time I hit it, that issue had already been reported, so I was able to quickly work around it with a snippet in my main config. I could have also just rolled back omnisharp.\n
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      Most problems I’ve had have been solved by upgrading spacemacs to latest.
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        cross-posted from: [lemmy.ml/post/9648279](https://lemmy.ml/post/9648279)\n
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        > I would like to premise this with the following:\n
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        > - The best approach is probably just testing out each and every editor that interests me until I’ve found what works best for me. \n
        >     - However, I wonder to what degree a test as such would be representative when the likes of Emacs and (Neo)Vim are considered; both of which are known for being a life time learning process.\n
        > - I don’t literally expect Emacs or (Neo)Vim to be drop-in replacements for any IDE. Some of the most basic IDE-functions are absent by default and some (perhaps more advanced) functionality might simply not be attainable at all.\n
        > - I am not interested in anything that remotely resembles a flame war. The community at Lemmy has so far been very kind to me; let’s keep it that way 😜.\n
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        > **Motivation**\n
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        > I’ve had experiences with Atom, VS Code and some of Jetbrains’ IDEs like Pycharm and Rider. While I’ve been generally content with all of them, it leaves a bad taste in my mouth whenever I’m forced to switch IDEs because their lifetimes and/or lack of extensibility doesn’t allow me to responsibly continue using them. As such, I’m interested in a long time investment that will grow as I will. Both Emacs and (Neo)Vim have passed the test of time and I honestly don’t think they’ll cease to exist in the upcoming decades, that’s why I would love to start using either one of them.\n
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        > Furthermore, Vi(m) keybindings seem to be somewhat ubiquitous and almost any IDE offers some support. As such, improving my Vi(m)-game should only net-positive my productivity (at least eventually). Also, fluency will benefit me whenever I’m remote accessing any random server as they will always have Vi(m) installed. Thankfully, this doesn’t force me to use Vi(m) (or Neovim) just yet, because Emacs offers with Evil perhaps the single best Vi(m) implementation; outside of native Vi(m)*.\n
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        > **My setup:**\n
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        > - I’m on a custom image of [uBlue](https://ublue.it) using their [startingpoint](https://github.com/ublue-os/startingpoint) as template. For those unaware; an oversimplification would be that it is Fedora Silverblue with some extras.\n
        > - As such, I would like to have my developer environments local and have used [Distrobox](https://github.com/89luca89/distrobox) to that extent using steps similar to the ones outlined over [here](https://blog.niklas.tech/intellij-and-java-on-immutable-linux). But I’m not married to that specific way of utilizing local containers. So please feel free to recommend me something that’s at least as good.\n
        > - If I go for Emacs, then I will definitely rely on Evil.\n
        > - If possible, I would like to use it for C#, Python and Rust. Furthermore, I engage in editing Bash scripts, Dockerfiles, Linux config files, texts written in Latex and/or Markdown and other files written in Nix or JSON. As both are very extensible, I don’t expect any issues, but I might be wrong.\n
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        > **Questions:**\n
        > \n
        > - First of all, does it make sense for me to only consider these two?\n
        > - Can the split between Vim and Neovim be interpreted as the first schism and as such be a forebode for what’s yet to come?\n
        > - [Google Trends](https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%205-y&q=%2Fm%2F07zh7,%2Fg%2F11f3w6p14d,%2Fm%2F01yp0m&hl=en-US) suggests that Neo(Vim) is ever-popular. On the other hand; not only is Emacs relatively less popular, but its popularity seems to be slightly declining. Should this worry me regarding their long-time future? Especially considering that a thriving community is literally the lifeline for both of them.\n
        > - For those that have used both extensively, which one do you prefer (if any) and why?\n
        > - While I understand that the power of both of them lies primarily in how one can literally make them behave however suits their workflow best. Therefore, the use of premade configs and/or starter kits/distributions should (ideally) only be used either temporary or as a starting point. However, at this point, they provide a decent showcase of what each *‘platform’* has to offer. So: \n
        >     - Regarding Emacs; [Doom Emacs](https://github.com/doomemacs/doomemacs) or [Spacemacs](https://github.com/syl20bnr/spacemacs)? And why?\n
        >     - Regarding Neovim; there are a lot, but the big ones seem to be [AstroNvim](https://github.com/AstroNvim/AstroNvim), [LazyVim](https://github.com/LazyVim/LazyVim), [LunarVim](https://github.com/LunarVim/LunarVim) and [NvChad](https://github.com/NvChad/NvChad). Which one and why?
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            I use Emacs + spacemacs in VI mode as a base for all my text editing on both Linux and windows (which is unfortunately required for work on occasion) machines.\n
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            For dev environments I mostly use nix + direnv + direnv-mode.\n
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            For C# I use the above plus omnisharp-roslyn + lsp-mode.\n
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            > Or is the usage of Spacemacs primarily attributable to it coming earlier to the scene?\n
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          Community icon by [Alpár-Etele Méder](https://www.iconfinder.com/pocike), licensed under [CC BY 3.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/)
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        cross-posted from: [lemmy.ml/post/9648279](https://lemmy.ml/post/9648279)\n
        \n
        > I would like to premise this with the following:\n
        > \n
        > - The best approach is probably just testing out each and every editor that interests me until I’ve found what works best for me. \n
        >     - However, I wonder to what degree a test as such would be representative when the likes of Emacs and (Neo)Vim are considered; both of which are known for being a life time learning process.\n
        > - I don’t literally expect Emacs or (Neo)Vim to be drop-in replacements for any IDE. Some of the most basic IDE-functions are absent by default and some (perhaps more advanced) functionality might simply not be attainable at all.\n
        > - I am not interested in anything that remotely resembles a flame war. The community at Lemmy has so far been very kind to me; let’s keep it that way 😜.\n
        > \n
        > ---\n
        > \n
        > **Motivation**\n
        > \n
        > I’ve had experiences with Atom, VS Code and some of Jetbrains’ IDEs like Pycharm and Rider. While I’ve been generally content with all of them, it leaves a bad taste in my mouth whenever I’m forced to switch IDEs because their lifetimes and/or lack of extensibility doesn’t allow me to responsibly continue using them. As such, I’m interested in a long time investment that will grow as I will. Both Emacs and (Neo)Vim have passed the test of time and I honestly don’t think they’ll cease to exist in the upcoming decades, that’s why I would love to start using either one of them.\n
        > \n
        > Furthermore, Vi(m) keybindings seem to be somewhat ubiquitous and almost any IDE offers some support. As such, improving my Vi(m)-game should only net-positive my productivity (at least eventually). Also, fluency will benefit me whenever I’m remote accessing any random server as they will always have Vi(m) installed. Thankfully, this doesn’t force me to use Vi(m) (or Neovim) just yet, because Emacs offers with Evil perhaps the single best Vi(m) implementation; outside of native Vi(m)*.\n
        > \n
        > **My setup:**\n
        > \n
        > - I’m on a custom image of [uBlue](https://ublue.it) using their [startingpoint](https://github.com/ublue-os/startingpoint) as template. For those unaware; an oversimplification would be that it is Fedora Silverblue with some extras.\n
        > - As such, I would like to have my developer environments local and have used [Distrobox](https://github.com/89luca89/distrobox) to that extent using steps similar to the ones outlined over [here](https://blog.niklas.tech/intellij-and-java-on-immutable-linux). But I’m not married to that specific way of utilizing local containers. So please feel free to recommend me something that’s at least as good.\n
        > - If I go for Emacs, then I will definitely rely on Evil.\n
        > - If possible, I would like to use it for C#, Python and Rust. Furthermore, I engage in editing Bash scripts, Dockerfiles, Linux config files, texts written in Latex and/or Markdown and other files written in Nix or JSON. As both are very extensible, I don’t expect any issues, but I might be wrong.\n
        > \n
        > **Questions:**\n
        > \n
        > - First of all, does it make sense for me to only consider these two?\n
        > - Can the split between Vim and Neovim be interpreted as the first schism and as such be a forebode for what’s yet to come?\n
        > - [Google Trends](https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%205-y&q=%2Fm%2F07zh7,%2Fg%2F11f3w6p14d,%2Fm%2F01yp0m&hl=en-US) suggests that Neo(Vim) is ever-popular. On the other hand; not only is Emacs relatively less popular, but its popularity seems to be slightly declining. Should this worry me regarding their long-time future? Especially considering that a thriving community is literally the lifeline for both of them.\n
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        >     - Regarding Emacs; [Doom Emacs](https://github.com/doomemacs/doomemacs) or [Spacemacs](https://github.com/syl20bnr/spacemacs)? And why?\n
        >     - Regarding Neovim; there are a lot, but the big ones seem to be [AstroNvim](https://github.com/AstroNvim/AstroNvim), [LazyVim](https://github.com/LazyVim/LazyVim), [LunarVim](https://github.com/LunarVim/LunarVim) and [NvChad](https://github.com/NvChad/NvChad). Which one and why?
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            I use Emacs + spacemacs in VI mode as a base for all my text editing on both Linux and windows (which is unfortunately required for work on occasion) machines.\n
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            > Or is the usage of Spacemacs primarily attributable to it coming earlier to the scene?\n
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            > I assume this is due to the amount of effort that would have been required for it to acquire some of the functionality you were expecting out of it. Am I right?\n
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        cross-posted from: [lemmy.ml/post/9648279](https://lemmy.ml/post/9648279)\n
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        > I would like to premise this with the following:\n
        > \n
        > - The best approach is probably just testing out each and every editor that interests me until I’ve found what works best for me. \n
        >     - However, I wonder to what degree a test as such would be representative when the likes of Emacs and (Neo)Vim are considered; both of which are known for being a life time learning process.\n
        > - I don’t literally expect Emacs or (Neo)Vim to be drop-in replacements for any IDE. Some of the most basic IDE-functions are absent by default and some (perhaps more advanced) functionality might simply not be attainable at all.\n
        > - I am not interested in anything that remotely resembles a flame war. The community at Lemmy has so far been very kind to me; let’s keep it that way 😜.\n
        > \n
        > ---\n
        > \n
        > **Motivation**\n
        > \n
        > I’ve had experiences with Atom, VS Code and some of Jetbrains’ IDEs like Pycharm and Rider. While I’ve been generally content with all of them, it leaves a bad taste in my mouth whenever I’m forced to switch IDEs because their lifetimes and/or lack of extensibility doesn’t allow me to responsibly continue using them. As such, I’m interested in a long time investment that will grow as I will. Both Emacs and (Neo)Vim have passed the test of time and I honestly don’t think they’ll cease to exist in the upcoming decades, that’s why I would love to start using either one of them.\n
        > \n
        > Furthermore, Vi(m) keybindings seem to be somewhat ubiquitous and almost any IDE offers some support. As such, improving my Vi(m)-game should only net-positive my productivity (at least eventually). Also, fluency will benefit me whenever I’m remote accessing any random server as they will always have Vi(m) installed. Thankfully, this doesn’t force me to use Vi(m) (or Neovim) just yet, because Emacs offers with Evil perhaps the single best Vi(m) implementation; outside of native Vi(m)*.\n
        > \n
        > **My setup:**\n
        > \n
        > - I’m on a custom image of [uBlue](https://ublue.it) using their [startingpoint](https://github.com/ublue-os/startingpoint) as template. For those unaware; an oversimplification would be that it is Fedora Silverblue with some extras.\n
        > - As such, I would like to have my developer environments local and have used [Distrobox](https://github.com/89luca89/distrobox) to that extent using steps similar to the ones outlined over [here](https://blog.niklas.tech/intellij-and-java-on-immutable-linux). But I’m not married to that specific way of utilizing local containers. So please feel free to recommend me something that’s at least as good.\n
        > - If I go for Emacs, then I will definitely rely on Evil.\n
        > - If possible, I would like to use it for C#, Python and Rust. Furthermore, I engage in editing Bash scripts, Dockerfiles, Linux config files, texts written in Latex and/or Markdown and other files written in Nix or JSON. As both are very extensible, I don’t expect any issues, but I might be wrong.\n
        > \n
        > **Questions:**\n
        > \n
        > - First of all, does it make sense for me to only consider these two?\n
        > - Can the split between Vim and Neovim be interpreted as the first schism and as such be a forebode for what’s yet to come?\n
        > - [Google Trends](https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%205-y&q=%2Fm%2F07zh7,%2Fg%2F11f3w6p14d,%2Fm%2F01yp0m&hl=en-US) suggests that Neo(Vim) is ever-popular. On the other hand; not only is Emacs relatively less popular, but its popularity seems to be slightly declining. Should this worry me regarding their long-time future? Especially considering that a thriving community is literally the lifeline for both of them.\n
        > - For those that have used both extensively, which one do you prefer (if any) and why?\n
        > - While I understand that the power of both of them lies primarily in how one can literally make them behave however suits their workflow best. Therefore, the use of premade configs and/or starter kits/distributions should (ideally) only be used either temporary or as a starting point. However, at this point, they provide a decent showcase of what each *‘platform’* has to offer. So: \n
        >     - Regarding Emacs; [Doom Emacs](https://github.com/doomemacs/doomemacs) or [Spacemacs](https://github.com/syl20bnr/spacemacs)? And why?\n
        >     - Regarding Neovim; there are a lot, but the big ones seem to be [AstroNvim](https://github.com/AstroNvim/AstroNvim), [LazyVim](https://github.com/LazyVim/LazyVim), [LunarVim](https://github.com/LunarVim/LunarVim) and [NvChad](https://github.com/NvChad/NvChad). Which one and why?
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            I use Emacs + spacemacs in VI mode as a base for all my text editing on both Linux and windows (which is unfortunately required for work on occasion) machines.\n
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            For dev environments I mostly use nix + direnv + direnv-mode.\n
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            For C# I use the above plus omnisharp-roslyn + lsp-mode.\n
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            I tinker in all sorts of languages, and they all have at least basic support in the Emacs ecosystem. The popular ones should have fully functional language servers and debugger adapters.
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            > Or is the usage of Spacemacs primarily attributable to it coming earlier to the scene?\n
            \n
            Yeah, pretty much just that. If was to start again now I’d consider other options, but I have no serious complaints about spacemacs. I probably would have never got into Emacs at all if I had to start with vanilla.\n
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            > Furthermore, as you’re using it in “VI mode”, would it be fair to assume that you’ve got some experience/history with Neo(Vim) as well? If so, what led you to making the switch from (Neo)Vim to Emacs?\n
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            Yeah, I used VIM (and I still do when I’m in an unfamiliar environment), but only before neovim existed. IMO Lisp is what makes Emacs great, and vimscript is (was?) an absolute nightmare for anything complex. I don’t think lua is a bad language, but I’ll still take Lisp any day for this purpose.\n
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            > I’ve also got my concerns related to what degree the containers can be sandboxed. Do you happen to have some insights on this?\n
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            What I described isn’t using containers. Nix just provides an environment for processes to run in, and direnv-mode ensures it’s using the right environment for a given buffer in Emacs. So for example I don’t have `OmniSharp` or `dotnet` in my user $PATH, but they are provided by the nix expression in a particular project directory. That allows lsp-mode to start `OmniSharp` as a language server, or I can run `dotnet build` using the Emacs `compile` command.\n
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            You can define containers with nix and manage them with `nixos-container`. I do that for testing server deployments, or running sandboxed services, but I’ve never needed something that complex for a dev shell.
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            > I assume this is due to the amount of effort that would have been required for it to acquire some of the functionality you were expecting out of it. Am I right?\n
            \n
            I didn’t really understand what Emacs was at the time, I just got fed up with trying to make vim into an IDE. Out of the box, spacemacs had good language support, modal editing, and looked ‘modern’.\n
            \n
            What I love about Emacs now is Lisp and the package ecosystem. I have 396 packages installed, and many of them interact in quite complex ways. When I do a package upgrade it pretty much pulls the latest from the development branch of each package. Some packages haven’t been changed in 10 years, some are changed daily. It’s bleeding edge everything, and things don’t actually break that much. Lisp makes for (obviously IMO) beautiful, simple code, so most packages are a pleasure to fix, extend, or automate.\n
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            > I intend to put my teeth in GNU Guix at some point in the future.\n
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            Me too, but I nix has served me well, so I haven’t been motivated.
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        > - I don’t literally expect Emacs or (Neo)Vim to be drop-in replacements for any IDE. Some of the most basic IDE-functions are absent by default and some (perhaps more advanced) functionality might simply not be attainable at all.\n
        > - I am not interested in anything that remotely resembles a flame war. The community at Lemmy has so far been very kind to me; let’s keep it that way 😜.\n
        > \n
        > ---\n
        > \n
        > **Motivation**\n
        > \n
        > I’ve had experiences with Atom, VS Code and some of Jetbrains’ IDEs like Pycharm and Rider. While I’ve been generally content with all of them, it leaves a bad taste in my mouth whenever I’m forced to switch IDEs because their lifetimes and/or lack of extensibility doesn’t allow me to responsibly continue using them. As such, I’m interested in a long time investment that will grow as I will. Both Emacs and (Neo)Vim have passed the test of time and I honestly don’t think they’ll cease to exist in the upcoming decades, that’s why I would love to start using either one of them.\n
        > \n
        > Furthermore, Vi(m) keybindings seem to be somewhat ubiquitous and almost any IDE offers some support. As such, improving my Vi(m)-game should only net-positive my productivity (at least eventually). Also, fluency will benefit me whenever I’m remote accessing any random server as they will always have Vi(m) installed. Thankfully, this doesn’t force me to use Vi(m) (or Neovim) just yet, because Emacs offers with Evil perhaps the single best Vi(m) implementation; outside of native Vi(m)*.\n
        > \n
        > **My setup:**\n
        > \n
        > - I’m on a custom image of [uBlue](https://ublue.it) using their [startingpoint](https://github.com/ublue-os/startingpoint) as template. For those unaware; an oversimplification would be that it is Fedora Silverblue with some extras.\n
        > - As such, I would like to have my developer environments local and have used [Distrobox](https://github.com/89luca89/distrobox) to that extent using steps similar to the ones outlined over [here](https://blog.niklas.tech/intellij-and-java-on-immutable-linux). But I’m not married to that specific way of utilizing local containers. So please feel free to recommend me something that’s at least as good.\n
        > - If I go for Emacs, then I will definitely rely on Evil.\n
        > - If possible, I would like to use it for C#, Python and Rust. Furthermore, I engage in editing Bash scripts, Dockerfiles, Linux config files, texts written in Latex and/or Markdown and other files written in Nix or JSON. As both are very extensible, I don’t expect any issues, but I might be wrong.\n
        > \n
        > **Questions:**\n
        > \n
        > - First of all, does it make sense for me to only consider these two?\n
        > - Can the split between Vim and Neovim be interpreted as the first schism and as such be a forebode for what’s yet to come?\n
        > - [Google Trends](https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%205-y&q=%2Fm%2F07zh7,%2Fg%2F11f3w6p14d,%2Fm%2F01yp0m&hl=en-US) suggests that Neo(Vim) is ever-popular. On the other hand; not only is Emacs relatively less popular, but its popularity seems to be slightly declining. Should this worry me regarding their long-time future? Especially considering that a thriving community is literally the lifeline for both of them.\n
        > - For those that have used both extensively, which one do you prefer (if any) and why?\n
        > - While I understand that the power of both of them lies primarily in how one can literally make them behave however suits their workflow best. Therefore, the use of premade configs and/or starter kits/distributions should (ideally) only be used either temporary or as a starting point. However, at this point, they provide a decent showcase of what each *‘platform’* has to offer. So: \n
        >     - Regarding Emacs; [Doom Emacs](https://github.com/doomemacs/doomemacs) or [Spacemacs](https://github.com/syl20bnr/spacemacs)? And why?\n
        >     - Regarding Neovim; there are a lot, but the big ones seem to be [AstroNvim](https://github.com/AstroNvim/AstroNvim), [LazyVim](https://github.com/LazyVim/LazyVim), [LunarVim](https://github.com/LunarVim/LunarVim) and [NvChad](https://github.com/NvChad/NvChad). Which one and why?
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            I use Emacs + spacemacs in VI mode as a base for all my text editing on both Linux and windows (which is unfortunately required for work on occasion) machines.\n
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            For dev environments I mostly use nix + direnv + direnv-mode.\n
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            For C# I use the above plus omnisharp-roslyn + lsp-mode.\n
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            > Or is the usage of Spacemacs primarily attributable to it coming earlier to the scene?\n
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            What I described isn’t using containers. Nix just provides an environment for processes to run in, and direnv-mode ensures it’s using the right environment for a given buffer in Emacs. So for example I don’t have `OmniSharp` or `dotnet` in my user $PATH, but they are provided by the nix expression in a particular project directory. That allows lsp-mode to start `OmniSharp` as a language server, or I can run `dotnet build` using the Emacs `compile` command.\n
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            > I assume this is due to the amount of effort that would have been required for it to acquire some of the functionality you were expecting out of it. Am I right?\n
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      > I want to have a better idea for much time is spend on ‘management’; fix, extend and/or automate etc.\n
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      Not that much really. I usually upgrade everything once a month or so. The last couple of times were smooth. I think the last problem I hit was:\n
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      [github.com/emacs-lsp/lsp-mode/issues/4153](https://github.com/emacs-lsp/lsp-mode/issues/4153)\n
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      By the time I hit it, that issue had already been reported, so I was able to quickly work around it with a snippet in my main config. I could have also just rolled back omnisharp.\n
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      Most problems I’ve had have been solved by upgrading spacemacs to latest.
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        cross-posted from: [lemmy.ml/post/9648279](https://lemmy.ml/post/9648279)\n
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        > I would like to premise this with the following:\n
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        > - The best approach is probably just testing out each and every editor that interests me until I’ve found what works best for me. \n
        >     - However, I wonder to what degree a test as such would be representative when the likes of Emacs and (Neo)Vim are considered; both of which are known for being a life time learning process.\n
        > - I don’t literally expect Emacs or (Neo)Vim to be drop-in replacements for any IDE. Some of the most basic IDE-functions are absent by default and some (perhaps more advanced) functionality might simply not be attainable at all.\n
        > - I am not interested in anything that remotely resembles a flame war. The community at Lemmy has so far been very kind to me; let’s keep it that way 😜.\n
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        > I’ve had experiences with Atom, VS Code and some of Jetbrains’ IDEs like Pycharm and Rider. While I’ve been generally content with all of them, it leaves a bad taste in my mouth whenever I’m forced to switch IDEs because their lifetimes and/or lack of extensibility doesn’t allow me to responsibly continue using them. As such, I’m interested in a long time investment that will grow as I will. Both Emacs and (Neo)Vim have passed the test of time and I honestly don’t think they’ll cease to exist in the upcoming decades, that’s why I would love to start using either one of them.\n
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        > Furthermore, Vi(m) keybindings seem to be somewhat ubiquitous and almost any IDE offers some support. As such, improving my Vi(m)-game should only net-positive my productivity (at least eventually). Also, fluency will benefit me whenever I’m remote accessing any random server as they will always have Vi(m) installed. Thankfully, this doesn’t force me to use Vi(m) (or Neovim) just yet, because Emacs offers with Evil perhaps the single best Vi(m) implementation; outside of native Vi(m)*.\n
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        > **My setup:**\n
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        > - I’m on a custom image of [uBlue](https://ublue.it) using their [startingpoint](https://github.com/ublue-os/startingpoint) as template. For those unaware; an oversimplification would be that it is Fedora Silverblue with some extras.\n
        > - As such, I would like to have my developer environments local and have used [Distrobox](https://github.com/89luca89/distrobox) to that extent using steps similar to the ones outlined over [here](https://blog.niklas.tech/intellij-and-java-on-immutable-linux). But I’m not married to that specific way of utilizing local containers. So please feel free to recommend me something that’s at least as good.\n
        > - If I go for Emacs, then I will definitely rely on Evil.\n
        > - If possible, I would like to use it for C#, Python and Rust. Furthermore, I engage in editing Bash scripts, Dockerfiles, Linux config files, texts written in Latex and/or Markdown and other files written in Nix or JSON. As both are very extensible, I don’t expect any issues, but I might be wrong.\n
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        > **Questions:**\n
        > \n
        > - First of all, does it make sense for me to only consider these two?\n
        > - Can the split between Vim and Neovim be interpreted as the first schism and as such be a forebode for what’s yet to come?\n
        > - [Google Trends](https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%205-y&q=%2Fm%2F07zh7,%2Fg%2F11f3w6p14d,%2Fm%2F01yp0m&hl=en-US) suggests that Neo(Vim) is ever-popular. On the other hand; not only is Emacs relatively less popular, but its popularity seems to be slightly declining. Should this worry me regarding their long-time future? Especially considering that a thriving community is literally the lifeline for both of them.\n
        > - For those that have used both extensively, which one do you prefer (if any) and why?\n
        > - While I understand that the power of both of them lies primarily in how one can literally make them behave however suits their workflow best. Therefore, the use of premade configs and/or starter kits/distributions should (ideally) only be used either temporary or as a starting point. However, at this point, they provide a decent showcase of what each *‘platform’* has to offer. So: \n
        >     - Regarding Emacs; [Doom Emacs](https://github.com/doomemacs/doomemacs) or [Spacemacs](https://github.com/syl20bnr/spacemacs)? And why?\n
        >     - Regarding Neovim; there are a lot, but the big ones seem to be [AstroNvim](https://github.com/AstroNvim/AstroNvim), [LazyVim](https://github.com/LazyVim/LazyVim), [LunarVim](https://github.com/LunarVim/LunarVim) and [NvChad](https://github.com/NvChad/NvChad). Which one and why?
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            I use Emacs + spacemacs in VI mode as a base for all my text editing on both Linux and windows (which is unfortunately required for work on occasion) machines.\n
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            For dev environments I mostly use nix + direnv + direnv-mode.\n
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            > Or is the usage of Spacemacs primarily attributable to it coming earlier to the scene?\n
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            > I assume this is due to the amount of effort that would have been required for it to acquire some of the functionality you were expecting out of it. Am I right?\n
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      > I want to have a better idea for much time is spend on ‘management’; fix, extend and/or automate etc.\n
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        - [!selfhosted@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/selfhosted)\n
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  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_GENERAL_ROUNDED_EDGES"
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#16406
  +label: "Rounded edges"
  +help: ""
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_GENERAL_ROUNDED_EDGES"
  +defaultValue: false
  +reloadRequired: true
}
settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent 16.0 MiB 0.16 ms
Input props
[
  "label" => "Infinite scrolling"
  "help" => "Automatically load more content when you reach the bottom of the page."
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_GENERAL_INFINITE_SCROLL"
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#16462
  +label: "Infinite scrolling"
  +help: "Automatically load more content when you reach the bottom of the page."
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_GENERAL_INFINITE_SCROLL"
  +defaultValue: false
  +reloadRequired: true
}
settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent 16.0 MiB 0.14 ms
Input props
[
  "label" => "Sticky navbar"
  "help" => "The navbar will stick to the top of the page when you scroll down."
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_GENERAL_FIXED_NAVBAR"
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#16521
  +label: "Sticky navbar"
  +help: "The navbar will stick to the top of the page when you scroll down."
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_GENERAL_FIXED_NAVBAR"
  +defaultValue: false
  +reloadRequired: true
}
settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent 16.0 MiB 0.14 ms
Input props
[
  "label" => "Show top bar"
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_GENERAL_TOPBAR"
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#16577
  +label: "Show top bar"
  +help: ""
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_GENERAL_TOPBAR"
  +defaultValue: false
  +reloadRequired: true
}
settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent 16.0 MiB 0.15 ms
Input props
[
  "label" => "Turbo mode (experimental)"
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_GENERAL_TURBO"
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#16633
  +label: "Turbo mode (experimental)"
  +help: ""
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_GENERAL_TURBO"
  +defaultValue: false
  +reloadRequired: true
}
user_settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\UserSettingsRowSwitchComponent 16.0 MiB 0.32 ms
Input props
[
  "label" => "Mark new comments"
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_MARK_NEW_COMMENTS"
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\UserSettingsRowSwitchComponent {#16691
  +label: "Mark new comments"
  +help: ""
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_MARK_NEW_COMMENTS"
  +defaultValue: false
  +reloadRequired: true
}
settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent 16.0 MiB 0.15 ms
Input props
[
  "label" => "Show "Support Us" block"
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_GENERAL_SUPPORT_US_BLOCK"
  "defaultValue" => true
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#16754
  +label: "Show "Support Us" block"
  +help: ""
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_GENERAL_SUPPORT_US_BLOCK"
  +defaultValue: true
  +reloadRequired: true
}
user_settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\UserSettingsRowSwitchComponent 16.0 MiB 0.18 ms
Input props
[
  "label" => "Show subscribed users"
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_SUB_CHANNEL_USERS"
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\UserSettingsRowSwitchComponent {#16812
  +label: "Show subscribed users"
  +help: ""
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_SUB_CHANNEL_USERS"
  +defaultValue: false
  +reloadRequired: true
}
user_settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\UserSettingsRowSwitchComponent 16.0 MiB 0.16 ms
Input props
[
  "label" => "Show subscribed magazines"
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_SUB_CHANNEL_MAGAZINES"
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\UserSettingsRowSwitchComponent {#16868
  +label: "Show subscribed magazines"
  +help: ""
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_SUB_CHANNEL_MAGAZINES"
  +defaultValue: false
  +reloadRequired: true
}
user_settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\UserSettingsRowSwitchComponent 16.0 MiB 0.15 ms
Input props
[
  "label" => "Show subscribed domains"
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_SUB_CHANNEL_DOMAINS"
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\UserSettingsRowSwitchComponent {#16924
  +label: "Show subscribed domains"
  +help: ""
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_SUB_CHANNEL_DOMAINS"
  +defaultValue: false
  +reloadRequired: true
}
settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent 16.0 MiB 0.13 ms
Input props
[
  "label" => "Auto media preview"
  "help" => "Automatically expand media previews."
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_ENTRIES_SHOW_PREVIEW"
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#16980
  +label: "Auto media preview"
  +help: "Automatically expand media previews."
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_ENTRIES_SHOW_PREVIEW"
  +defaultValue: false
  +reloadRequired: true
}
settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent 16.0 MiB 0.12 ms
Input props
[
  "label" => "Compact view"
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_ENTRIES_COMPACT"
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#17036
  +label: "Compact view"
  +help: ""
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_ENTRIES_COMPACT"
  +defaultValue: false
  +reloadRequired: true
}
settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent 16.0 MiB 0.12 ms
Input props
[
  "label" => "Show users’ avatars"
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_ENTRIES_SHOW_USERS_AVATARS"
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#17092
  +label: "Show users’ avatars"
  +help: ""
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_ENTRIES_SHOW_USERS_AVATARS"
  +defaultValue: false
  +reloadRequired: true
}
settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent 16.0 MiB 0.15 ms
Input props
[
  "label" => "Show magazines’ icons"
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_ENTRIES_SHOW_MAGAZINES_ICONS"
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#17148
  +label: "Show magazines’ icons"
  +help: ""
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_ENTRIES_SHOW_MAGAZINES_ICONS"
  +defaultValue: false
  +reloadRequired: true
}
settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent 16.0 MiB 0.17 ms
Input props
[
  "label" => "Show thumbnails"
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_ENTRIES_SHOW_THUMBNAILS"
  "defaultValue" => true
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#17204
  +label: "Show thumbnails"
  +help: ""
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_ENTRIES_SHOW_THUMBNAILS"
  +defaultValue: true
  +reloadRequired: true
}
settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent 16.0 MiB 0.14 ms
Input props
[
  "label" => "Auto media preview"
  "help" => "Automatically expand media previews."
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_POSTS_SHOW_PREVIEW"
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#17260
  +label: "Auto media preview"
  +help: "Automatically expand media previews."
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_POSTS_SHOW_PREVIEW"
  +defaultValue: false
  +reloadRequired: true
}
settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent 16.0 MiB 0.14 ms
Input props
[
  "label" => "Show users’ avatars"
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_POSTS_SHOW_USERS_AVATARS"
  "defaultValue" => true
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#17316
  +label: "Show users’ avatars"
  +help: ""
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_POSTS_SHOW_USERS_AVATARS"
  +defaultValue: true
  +reloadRequired: true
}
settings_row_enum App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowEnumComponent 16.0 MiB 0.18 ms
Input props
[
  "label" => "Comment reply position"
  "help" => "Display the comment reply form either at the top or bottom of the page. When 'infinite scroll' is enabled the position will always appear at the top."
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_COMMENTS_REPLY_POSITION"
  "values" => [
    [
      "name" => "top"
      "value" => "TOP"
    ]
    [
      "name" => "bottom"
      "value" => "BOTTOM"
    ]
  ]
  "defaultValue" => "TOP"
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowEnumComponent {#17372
  +label: "Comment reply position"
  +help: "Display the comment reply form either at the top or bottom of the page. When 'infinite scroll' is enabled the position will always appear at the top."
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_COMMENTS_REPLY_POSITION"
  +values: [
    [
      "name" => "top"
      "value" => "TOP"
    ]
    [
      "name" => "bottom"
      "value" => "BOTTOM"
    ]
  ]
  +defaultValue: "TOP"
  +reloadRequired: true
}
settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent 16.0 MiB 0.14 ms
Input props
[
  "label" => "Show Comment Avatars"
  "help" => "Display/hide user avatars when viewing comments on a single thread or post."
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_COMMENTS_SHOW_USER_AVATAR"
  "defaultValue" => true
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#17430
  +label: "Show Comment Avatars"
  +help: "Display/hide user avatars when viewing comments on a single thread or post."
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_COMMENTS_SHOW_USER_AVATAR"
  +defaultValue: true
  +reloadRequired: true
}
date App\Twig\Components\DateComponent 16.0 MiB 0.17 ms
Input props
[
  "date" => DateTimeImmutable @1689209779 {#275
    date: 2023-07-13 02:56:19.0 +02:00
  }
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\DateComponent {#17503
  +date: DateTimeImmutable @1689209779 {#275
    date: 2023-07-13 02:56:19.0 +02:00
  }
}
related_magazines App\Twig\Components\RelatedMagazinesComponent 16.0 MiB 4.92 ms
Input props
[
  "magazine" => null
  "tag" => null
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\RelatedMagazinesComponent {#17590
  +limit: 4
  +tag: null
  +magazine: null
  +type: "random"
  +title: "random_magazines"
  +refreshedRandom: false
  -repository: App\Repository\MagazineRepository {#2438 …}
  -cache: Symfony\Component\Cache\Adapter\TraceableTagAwareAdapter {#600 …}
  -twig: Twig\Environment {#1252 …}
  -requestStack: Symfony\Component\HttpFoundation\RequestStack {#1328 …}
}
active_users App\Twig\Components\ActiveUsersComponent 16.0 MiB 3.31 ms
Input props
[
  "magazine" => null
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\ActiveUsersComponent {#17655
  +magazine: null
  -userRepository: App\Repository\UserRepository {#603 …}
  -cache: Symfony\Component\Cache\Adapter\TraceableTagAwareAdapter {#600 …}
  -twig: Twig\Environment {#1252 …}
  -requestStack: Symfony\Component\HttpFoundation\RequestStack {#1328 …}
}
related_categories App\Twig\Components\RelatedCategoriesComponent 16.0 MiB 8.44 ms
Input props
[
  "magazine" => null
  "tag" => null
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\RelatedCategoriesComponent {#17714
  +limit: 4
  +tag: null
  +magazine: null
  +type: "random"
  +title: "random_categories"
  +refreshedRandom: false
  -repository: App\Repository\CategoryRepository {#17715 …}
  -cache: Symfony\Component\Cache\Adapter\TraceableTagAwareAdapter {#600 …}
  -twig: Twig\Environment {#1252 …}
  -requestStack: Symfony\Component\HttpFoundation\RequestStack {#1328 …}
}
related_posts App\Twig\Components\RelatedPostsComponent 16.0 MiB 6.57 ms
Input props
[
  "magazine" => null
  "tag" => null
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\RelatedPostsComponent {#17784
  +limit: 4
  +tag: null
  +magazine: null
  +type: "random"
  +post: null
  +title: "random_posts"
  +refreshedRandom: false
  -repository: App\Repository\PostRepository {#1466 …}
  -cache: Symfony\Component\Cache\Adapter\TraceableTagAwareAdapter {#600 …}
  -twig: Twig\Environment {#1252 …}
  -requestStack: Symfony\Component\HttpFoundation\RequestStack {#1328 …}
  -mentionManager: App\Service\MentionManager {#1539 …}
}
related_entries App\Twig\Components\RelatedEntriesComponent 16.0 MiB 12.78 ms
Input props
[
  "magazine" => null
  "tag" => null
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\RelatedEntriesComponent {#17853
  +limit: 4
  +tag: null
  +magazine: null
  +type: "random"
  +entry: null
  +title: "random_entries"
  +refreshedRandom: false
  -repository: App\Repository\EntryRepository {#1772 …}
  -cache: Symfony\Component\Cache\Adapter\TraceableTagAwareAdapter {#600 …}
  -twig: Twig\Environment {#1252 …}
  -requestStack: Symfony\Component\HttpFoundation\RequestStack {#1328 …}
  -mentionManager: App\Service\MentionManager {#1539 …}
}
support_us_block App\Twig\Components\SupportUsBlock 16.0 MiB 0.65 ms
Input props
[]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SupportUsBlock {#17922
  +subject: ? App\Entity\Contracts\VotableInterface
  +url: ? string
  -twig: Twig\Environment {#1252 …}
  -cache: Symfony\Component\Cache\Adapter\TraceableTagAwareAdapter {#600 …}
  -requestStack: Symfony\Component\HttpFoundation\RequestStack {#1328 …}
  -partnerBlockRepository: App\Repository\PartnerBlockRepository {#17923 …}
}
featured_magazines App\Twig\Components\FeaturedMagazinesComponent 16.0 MiB 6.74 ms
Input props
[
  "magazine" => null
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\FeaturedMagazinesComponent {#18015
  +magazine: null
  -twig: Twig\Environment {#1252 …}
  -repository: App\Repository\MagazineRepository {#2438 …}
}