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        EDIT: Submarine power transportation is indeed on the list\n
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        Not transoceanic, but there are two projects currently proposed that will – when constructed – break the current record for the “longest undersea power transmission cable” (a record currently held by the North Sea Link at 720 km, or 450 miles.)\n
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        One of these projects is [the Xlinks Morocco-UK Power Project](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xlinks_Morocco%E2%80%93UK_Power_Project) which aims to lay 3,800 km (2,400 miles) of cable and sell Morocco’s solar power to England.\n
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        There is, as of yet, not enough cable in the world to even begin this project. The company proposing the project is building factories to produce this cable.\n
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        The other is the [Australia-Asia Power Link](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australia-Asia_Power_Link), which aims to provide Australian solar power to Singapore using a 4,500 km (2,800 miles) undersea cable.\n
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        Where the Xlinks project ran into a “not enough cable in the world” problem, Sun Cable’s AAPL has apparently been running into a “not enough money in the world” problem, as it has repeatedly gotten into trouble with its investors.\n
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        EDIT: But also, storage is scaling up\n
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        @ProfessorGumby@midwest.social provided a fantastic link to a lot of energy storage mediums that are already in use in various grids across the world. These include (and [the link the professor provided](https://science.howstuffworks.com/environmental/green-tech/sustainable/grid-energy-storage.htm) gives an excellent short summary on each)\n
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        - Pumped hydroelectric\n
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        Also, this wasn’t in the Gumby’s answer, but [Finland’s Vatajankoski power plant uses a hot sand battery](https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20221102-how-a-sand-battery-could-transform-clean-energy) during its high-demand, low-production hours.\n
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        Hydrogen is projected to grow\n
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        @Hypx@kbin.social noted that hydrogen has advantages no other energy storage medium possesses: duration of storage and ease of piping/shipping. This is probably why numerous governments are investing in hydrogen production, and why [Wood Mackenzie projects](https://www.woodmac.com/news/the-edge/hydrogens-critical-role-in-the-energy-transition/) what looks like a 200-fold increase in production by the year 2050. (It’s a graph. I’m looking at a graph, so I am only estimating.)
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      I was referring to the comment that transoceanic electrical transmission is too expensive and impractical.\n
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      In the case of the NT - Singapore project, it is probably the most practical and cost effective option IF solar is the way they want to go.
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        EDIT: Submarine power transportation is indeed on the list\n
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        Not transoceanic, but there are two projects currently proposed that will – when constructed – break the current record for the “longest undersea power transmission cable” (a record currently held by the North Sea Link at 720 km, or 450 miles.)\n
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        One of these projects is [the Xlinks Morocco-UK Power Project](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xlinks_Morocco%E2%80%93UK_Power_Project) which aims to lay 3,800 km (2,400 miles) of cable and sell Morocco’s solar power to England.\n
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        The other is the [Australia-Asia Power Link](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australia-Asia_Power_Link), which aims to provide Australian solar power to Singapore using a 4,500 km (2,800 miles) undersea cable.\n
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        Where the Xlinks project ran into a “not enough cable in the world” problem, Sun Cable’s AAPL has apparently been running into a “not enough money in the world” problem, as it has repeatedly gotten into trouble with its investors.\n
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        EDIT: But also, storage is scaling up\n
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        @ProfessorGumby@midwest.social provided a fantastic link to a lot of energy storage mediums that are already in use in various grids across the world. These include (and [the link the professor provided](https://science.howstuffworks.com/environmental/green-tech/sustainable/grid-energy-storage.htm) gives an excellent short summary on each)\n
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        - Pumped hydroelectric\n
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        Hydrogen is projected to grow\n
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        @Hypx@kbin.social noted that hydrogen has advantages no other energy storage medium possesses: duration of storage and ease of piping/shipping. This is probably why numerous governments are investing in hydrogen production, and why [Wood Mackenzie projects](https://www.woodmac.com/news/the-edge/hydrogens-critical-role-in-the-energy-transition/) what looks like a 200-fold increase in production by the year 2050. (It’s a graph. I’m looking at a graph, so I am only estimating.)
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      EDIT: Submarine power transportation is indeed on the list\n
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      Not transoceanic, but there are two projects currently proposed that will – when constructed – break the current record for the “longest undersea power transmission cable” (a record currently held by the North Sea Link at 720 km, or 450 miles.)\n
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      One of these projects is [the Xlinks Morocco-UK Power Project](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xlinks_Morocco%E2%80%93UK_Power_Project) which aims to lay 3,800 km (2,400 miles) of cable and sell Morocco’s solar power to England.\n
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      There is, as of yet, not enough cable in the world to even begin this project. The company proposing the project is building factories to produce this cable.\n
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      The other is the [Australia-Asia Power Link](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australia-Asia_Power_Link), which aims to provide Australian solar power to Singapore using a 4,500 km (2,800 miles) undersea cable.\n
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      Where the Xlinks project ran into a “not enough cable in the world” problem, Sun Cable’s AAPL has apparently been running into a “not enough money in the world” problem, as it has repeatedly gotten into trouble with its investors.\n
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      EDIT: But also, storage is scaling up\n
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      @ProfessorGumby@midwest.social provided a fantastic link to a lot of energy storage mediums that are already in use in various grids across the world. These include (and [the link the professor provided](https://science.howstuffworks.com/environmental/green-tech/sustainable/grid-energy-storage.htm) gives an excellent short summary on each)\n
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      @Hypx@kbin.social noted that hydrogen has advantages no other energy storage medium possesses: duration of storage and ease of piping/shipping. This is probably why numerous governments are investing in hydrogen production, and why [Wood Mackenzie projects](https://www.woodmac.com/news/the-edge/hydrogens-critical-role-in-the-energy-transition/) what looks like a 200-fold increase in production by the year 2050. (It’s a graph. I’m looking at a graph, so I am only estimating.)
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        One of these projects is [the Xlinks Morocco-UK Power Project](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xlinks_Morocco%E2%80%93UK_Power_Project) which aims to lay 3,800 km (2,400 miles) of cable and sell Morocco’s solar power to England.\n
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        Not transoceanic, but there are two projects currently proposed that will – when constructed – break the current record for the “longest undersea power transmission cable” (a record currently held by the North Sea Link at 720 km, or 450 miles.)\n
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        One of these projects is [the Xlinks Morocco-UK Power Project](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xlinks_Morocco%E2%80%93UK_Power_Project) which aims to lay 3,800 km (2,400 miles) of cable and sell Morocco’s solar power to England.\n
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        The other is the [Australia-Asia Power Link](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australia-Asia_Power_Link), which aims to provide Australian solar power to Singapore using a 4,500 km (2,800 miles) undersea cable.\n
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        Where the Xlinks project ran into a “not enough cable in the world” problem, Sun Cable’s AAPL has apparently been running into a “not enough money in the world” problem, as it has repeatedly gotten into trouble with its investors.\n
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        @ProfessorGumby@midwest.social provided a fantastic link to a lot of energy storage mediums that are already in use in various grids across the world. These include (and [the link the professor provided](https://science.howstuffworks.com/environmental/green-tech/sustainable/grid-energy-storage.htm) gives an excellent short summary on each)\n
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        Also, this wasn’t in the Gumby’s answer, but [Finland’s Vatajankoski power plant uses a hot sand battery](https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20221102-how-a-sand-battery-could-transform-clean-energy) during its high-demand, low-production hours.\n
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        @Hypx@kbin.social noted that hydrogen has advantages no other energy storage medium possesses: duration of storage and ease of piping/shipping. This is probably why numerous governments are investing in hydrogen production, and why [Wood Mackenzie projects](https://www.woodmac.com/news/the-edge/hydrogens-critical-role-in-the-energy-transition/) what looks like a 200-fold increase in production by the year 2050. (It’s a graph. I’m looking at a graph, so I am only estimating.)
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      I was referring to the comment that transoceanic electrical transmission is too expensive and impractical.\n
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        One of these projects is [the Xlinks Morocco-UK Power Project](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xlinks_Morocco%E2%80%93UK_Power_Project) which aims to lay 3,800 km (2,400 miles) of cable and sell Morocco’s solar power to England.\n
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        The other is the [Australia-Asia Power Link](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australia-Asia_Power_Link), which aims to provide Australian solar power to Singapore using a 4,500 km (2,800 miles) undersea cable.\n
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        Where the Xlinks project ran into a “not enough cable in the world” problem, Sun Cable’s AAPL has apparently been running into a “not enough money in the world” problem, as it has repeatedly gotten into trouble with its investors.\n
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        @ProfessorGumby@midwest.social provided a fantastic link to a lot of energy storage mediums that are already in use in various grids across the world. These include (and [the link the professor provided](https://science.howstuffworks.com/environmental/green-tech/sustainable/grid-energy-storage.htm) gives an excellent short summary on each)\n
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        Hydrogen is projected to grow\n
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        @Hypx@kbin.social noted that hydrogen has advantages no other energy storage medium possesses: duration of storage and ease of piping/shipping. This is probably why numerous governments are investing in hydrogen production, and why [Wood Mackenzie projects](https://www.woodmac.com/news/the-edge/hydrogens-critical-role-in-the-energy-transition/) what looks like a 200-fold increase in production by the year 2050. (It’s a graph. I’m looking at a graph, so I am only estimating.)
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        Not transoceanic, but there are two projects currently proposed that will – when constructed – break the current record for the “longest undersea power transmission cable” (a record currently held by the North Sea Link at 720 km, or 450 miles.)\n
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        One of these projects is [the Xlinks Morocco-UK Power Project](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xlinks_Morocco%E2%80%93UK_Power_Project) which aims to lay 3,800 km (2,400 miles) of cable and sell Morocco’s solar power to England.\n
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        The other is the [Australia-Asia Power Link](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australia-Asia_Power_Link), which aims to provide Australian solar power to Singapore using a 4,500 km (2,800 miles) undersea cable.\n
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        Where the Xlinks project ran into a “not enough cable in the world” problem, Sun Cable’s AAPL has apparently been running into a “not enough money in the world” problem, as it has repeatedly gotten into trouble with its investors.\n
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