GET https://kbin.spritesserver.nl/u/@HelixDab@kbin.social/newest/2023-07-18::2023-07-18

Response
200 OK
IP
216.73.216.170
Profiled on
Token
13b51a

Components

21 Twig Components
73 Render Count
113 ms Render Time
14.0 MiB Memory Usage

Components

Name Metadata Render Count Render Time
settings_row_switch 
"App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent"
components/_settings_row_switch.html.twig 		15 2.07ms
date 
"App\Twig\Components\DateComponent"
components/date.html.twig 		7 1.54ms
user_inline 
"App\Twig\Components\UserInlineComponent"
components/user_inline.html.twig 		6 7.26ms
date_edited 
"App\Twig\Components\DateEditedComponent"
components/date_edited.html.twig 		6 1.14ms
vote 
"App\Twig\Components\VoteComponent"
components/vote.html.twig 		6 5.97ms
boost 
"App\Twig\Components\BoostComponent"
components/boost.html.twig 		6 7.67ms
entry_comment 
"App\Twig\Components\EntryCommentComponent"
components/entry_comment.html.twig 		4 45.77ms
user_avatar 
"App\Twig\Components\UserAvatarComponent"
components/user_avatar.html.twig 		4 0.87ms
user_settings_row_switch 
"App\Twig\Components\UserSettingsRowSwitchComponent"
components/_user_settings_row_switch.html.twig 		4 1.01ms
entry 
"App\Twig\Components\EntryComponent"
components/_cached.html.twig 		2 33.41ms
magazine_inline 
"App\Twig\Components\MagazineInlineComponent"
components/magazine_inline.html.twig 		2 0.51ms
settings_row_enum 
"App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowEnumComponent"
components/_settings_row_enum.html.twig 		2 16.86ms
user_box 
"App\Twig\Components\UserBoxComponent"
components/user_box.html.twig 		1 1.11ms
user_actions 
"App\Twig\Components\UserActionsComponent"
components/user_actions.html.twig 		1 0.50ms
related_magazines 
"App\Twig\Components\RelatedMagazinesComponent"
components/_cached.html.twig 		1 2.07ms
active_users 
"App\Twig\Components\ActiveUsersComponent"
components/_cached.html.twig 		1 0.26ms
related_categories 
"App\Twig\Components\RelatedCategoriesComponent"
components/_cached.html.twig 		1 1.30ms
related_posts 
"App\Twig\Components\RelatedPostsComponent"
components/_cached.html.twig 		1 1.82ms
related_entries 
"App\Twig\Components\RelatedEntriesComponent"
components/_cached.html.twig 		1 3.50ms
support_us_block 
"App\Twig\Components\SupportUsBlock"
components/_cached.html.twig 		1 1.00ms
featured_magazines 
"App\Twig\Components\FeaturedMagazinesComponent"
components/_cached.html.twig 		1 3.32ms

Render calls

user_box App\Twig\Components\UserBoxComponent 14.0 MiB 1.11 ms
Input props 
[
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    +cover: null
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    +about: null
    +lastActive: DateTime @1694638544 {#273
      date: 2023-09-13 22:55:44.0 +02:00
    }
    +markedForDeletionAt: null
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    +notifyOnNewEntry: false
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    +notifyOnNewEntryCommentReply: false
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    +notifyOnNewPostReply: false
    +notifyOnNewPostCommentReply: false
    +addMentionsEntries: false
    +addMentionsPosts: true
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    +isVerified: false
    +isDeleted: false
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    +spamProtection: true
    +customCss: null
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    +privateKey: null
    +publicKey: null
    +apFetchedAt: DateTime @1694638544 {#276
      date: 2023-09-13 22:55:44.0 +02:00
    }
    +apDeletedAt: null
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  "stretchedLink" => false
]
Attributes 
[]
Component 
App\Twig\Components\UserBoxComponent {#2665
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      date: 2023-09-13 22:55:44.0 +02:00
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    +notifyOnNewPostReply: false
    +notifyOnNewPostCommentReply: false
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    +addMentionsPosts: true
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    +isVerified: false
    +isDeleted: false
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    +spamProtection: true
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    +moderatorTokens: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#247 …}
    +magazineOwnershipRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#243 …}
    +moderatorRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#232 …}
    +entries: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#190 …}
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    +entryCommentVotes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#105 …}
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    +postVotes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#93 …}
    +postComments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1858 …}
    +postCommentVotes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2431 …}
    +subscriptions: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1569 …}
    +subscribedDomains: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1870 …}
    +follows: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1769 …}
    +followers: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1771 …}
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    +blockers: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1819 …}
    +blockedMagazines: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2486 …}
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    +violations: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2421 …}
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    +subscribedCategories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1866 …}
    +categories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1912 …}
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    -oAuth2UserConsents: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1395 …}
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      date: 2023-09-13 22:55:44.0 +02:00
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      date: 2023-06-29 05:38:30.0 +02:00
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user_actions App\Twig\Components\UserActionsComponent 14.0 MiB 0.50 ms
Input props 
[
  "user" => App\Entity\User {#260
    +avatar: null
    +cover: null
    +email: "HelixDab@kbin.social"
    +username: "@HelixDab@kbin.social"
    +roles: []
    +followersCount: 0
    +homepage: "front"
    +about: null
    +lastActive: DateTime @1694638544 {#273
      date: 2023-09-13 22:55:44.0 +02:00
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    +oauthGoogleId: null
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    +showSubscribedMagazines: true
    +showSubscribedDomains: true
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]
Attributes 
[]
Component 
App\Twig\Components\UserActionsComponent {#2847
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Input props 
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        It is difficult for me to ascertain when the person I am communicating is using a logical fallacy to trick me into believing him or doubting my judgement, even when I realise it hours after the argument.\n
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        I have seen countless arguments in Reddit threads and I couldn’t figure out who was in the right or wrong unless I looked at the upvote counts. Even if the person is uttering a blatant lie, they somehow make it sound in a way that is completely believable to me. If it weren’t for those people that could exactly point out the irrationality behind these arguments, my mind would have been lobotomised long ago.\n
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          First: How do you reconcile that view with the idea that animals also experience the world as people do with the idea that animals kill and eat other animals? Bears, for instance, are roughly as intelligent as a kindergartener, and yet happily kill and eat any other animals that they can. Pigs and crows are also omnivorous, and will eat any source of meat that they come across. They can all likewise avoid killing if they choose, yet they don't. Are they immoral? Or does morality only apply to humans? (Even animals that we traditionally think of as herbivorous are opportunistic meat eaters.)\n
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          First: How do you reconcile that view with the idea that animals also experience the world as people do with the idea that animals kill and eat other animals? Bears, for instance, are roughly as intelligent as a kindergartener, and yet happily kill and eat any other animals that they can. Pigs and crows are also omnivorous, and will eat any source of meat that they come across. They can all likewise avoid killing if they choose, yet they don't. Are they immoral? Or does morality only apply to humans? (Even animals that we traditionally think of as herbivorous are opportunistic meat eaters.)\n
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          First: How do you reconcile that view with the idea that animals also experience the world as people do with the idea that animals kill and eat other animals? Bears, for instance, are roughly as intelligent as a kindergartener, and yet happily kill and eat any other animals that they can. Pigs and crows are also omnivorous, and will eat any source of meat that they come across. They can all likewise avoid killing if they choose, yet they don't. Are they immoral? Or does morality only apply to humans? (Even animals that we traditionally think of as herbivorous are opportunistic meat eaters.)\n
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          ...And how exactly do you think people are going to be able to eat meat otherwise? Or have dairy, eggs, wool, etc.? Do you think that people should e.g., raise chickens in the city?\n
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          First: How do you reconcile that view with the idea that animals also experience the world as people do with the idea that animals kill and eat other animals? Bears, for instance, are roughly as intelligent as a kindergartener, and yet happily kill and eat any other animals that they can. Pigs and crows are also omnivorous, and will eat any source of meat that they come across. They can all likewise avoid killing if they choose, yet they don't. Are they immoral? Or does morality only apply to humans? (Even animals that we traditionally think of as herbivorous are opportunistic meat eaters.)\n
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          ...And how exactly do you think people are going to be able to eat meat otherwise? Or have dairy, eggs, wool, etc.? Do you think that people should e.g., raise chickens in the city?\n
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          First: How do you reconcile that view with the idea that animals also experience the world as people do with the idea that animals kill and eat other animals? Bears, for instance, are roughly as intelligent as a kindergartener, and yet happily kill and eat any other animals that they can. Pigs and crows are also omnivorous, and will eat any source of meat that they come across. They can all likewise avoid killing if they choose, yet they don't. Are they immoral? Or does morality only apply to humans? (Even animals that we traditionally think of as herbivorous are opportunistic meat eaters.)\n
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            First: How do you reconcile that view with the idea that animals also experience the world as people do with the idea that animals kill and eat other animals? Bears, for instance, are roughly as intelligent as a kindergartener, and yet happily kill and eat any other animals that they can. Pigs and crows are also omnivorous, and will eat any source of meat that they come across. They can all likewise avoid killing if they choose, yet they don't. Are they immoral? Or does morality only apply to humans? (Even animals that we traditionally think of as herbivorous are opportunistic meat eaters.)\n
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            First: How do you reconcile that view with the idea that animals also experience the world as people do with the idea that animals kill and eat other animals? Bears, for instance, are roughly as intelligent as a kindergartener, and yet happily kill and eat any other animals that they can. Pigs and crows are also omnivorous, and will eat any source of meat that they come across. They can all likewise avoid killing if they choose, yet they don't. Are they immoral? Or does morality only apply to humans? (Even animals that we traditionally think of as herbivorous are opportunistic meat eaters.)\n
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            First: How do you reconcile that view with the idea that animals also experience the world as people do with the idea that animals kill and eat other animals? Bears, for instance, are roughly as intelligent as a kindergartener, and yet happily kill and eat any other animals that they can. Pigs and crows are also omnivorous, and will eat any source of meat that they come across. They can all likewise avoid killing if they choose, yet they don't. Are they immoral? Or does morality only apply to humans? (Even animals that we traditionally think of as herbivorous are opportunistic meat eaters.)\n
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            First: How do you reconcile that view with the idea that animals also experience the world as people do with the idea that animals kill and eat other animals? Bears, for instance, are roughly as intelligent as a kindergartener, and yet happily kill and eat any other animals that they can. Pigs and crows are also omnivorous, and will eat any source of meat that they come across. They can all likewise avoid killing if they choose, yet they don't. Are they immoral? Or does morality only apply to humans? (Even animals that we traditionally think of as herbivorous are opportunistic meat eaters.)\n
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            First: How do you reconcile that view with the idea that animals also experience the world as people do with the idea that animals kill and eat other animals? Bears, for instance, are roughly as intelligent as a kindergartener, and yet happily kill and eat any other animals that they can. Pigs and crows are also omnivorous, and will eat any source of meat that they come across. They can all likewise avoid killing if they choose, yet they don't. Are they immoral? Or does morality only apply to humans? (Even animals that we traditionally think of as herbivorous are opportunistic meat eaters.)\n
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      ...And how exactly do you think people are going to be able to eat meat otherwise? Or have dairy, eggs, wool, etc.? Do you think that people should e.g., raise chickens in the city?\n
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            ...And how exactly do you think people are going to be able to eat meat otherwise? Or have dairy, eggs, wool, etc.? Do you think that people should e.g., raise chickens in the city?\n
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      First: How do you reconcile that view with the idea that animals also experience the world as people do with the idea that animals kill and eat other animals? Bears, for instance, are roughly as intelligent as a kindergartener, and yet happily kill and eat any other animals that they can. Pigs and crows are also omnivorous, and will eat any source of meat that they come across. They can all likewise avoid killing if they choose, yet they don't. Are they immoral? Or does morality only apply to humans? (Even animals that we traditionally think of as herbivorous are opportunistic meat eaters.)\n
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            ...And how exactly do you think people are going to be able to eat meat otherwise? Or have dairy, eggs, wool, etc.? Do you think that people should e.g., raise chickens in the city?\n
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      First: How do you reconcile that view with the idea that animals also experience the world as people do with the idea that animals kill and eat other animals? Bears, for instance, are roughly as intelligent as a kindergartener, and yet happily kill and eat any other animals that they can. Pigs and crows are also omnivorous, and will eat any source of meat that they come across. They can all likewise avoid killing if they choose, yet they don't. Are they immoral? Or does morality only apply to humans? (Even animals that we traditionally think of as herbivorous are opportunistic meat eaters.)\n
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            ...And how exactly do you think people are going to be able to eat meat otherwise? Or have dairy, eggs, wool, etc.? Do you think that people should e.g., raise chickens in the city?\n
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      First: How do you reconcile that view with the idea that animals also experience the world as people do with the idea that animals kill and eat other animals? Bears, for instance, are roughly as intelligent as a kindergartener, and yet happily kill and eat any other animals that they can. Pigs and crows are also omnivorous, and will eat any source of meat that they come across. They can all likewise avoid killing if they choose, yet they don't. Are they immoral? Or does morality only apply to humans? (Even animals that we traditionally think of as herbivorous are opportunistic meat eaters.)\n
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            ...And how exactly do you think people are going to be able to eat meat otherwise? Or have dairy, eggs, wool, etc.? Do you think that people should e.g., raise chickens in the city?\n
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            And that's ignoring the small obligate carnivores that make up most of the pets in the world.\n
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            Hey, I'd rather hunt my own food too, but we no longer live in tribal or feudal societies where you can reasonably expect to engage in animal husbandry yourself.
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      First: How do you reconcile that view with the idea that animals also experience the world as people do with the idea that animals kill and eat other animals? Bears, for instance, are roughly as intelligent as a kindergartener, and yet happily kill and eat any other animals that they can. Pigs and crows are also omnivorous, and will eat any source of meat that they come across. They can all likewise avoid killing if they choose, yet they don't. Are they immoral? Or does morality only apply to humans? (Even animals that we traditionally think of as herbivorous are opportunistic meat eaters.)\n
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            ...And how exactly do you think people are going to be able to eat meat otherwise? Or have dairy, eggs, wool, etc.? Do you think that people should e.g., raise chickens in the city?\n
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      First: How do you reconcile that view with the idea that animals also experience the world as people do with the idea that animals kill and eat other animals? Bears, for instance, are roughly as intelligent as a kindergartener, and yet happily kill and eat any other animals that they can. Pigs and crows are also omnivorous, and will eat any source of meat that they come across. They can all likewise avoid killing if they choose, yet they don't. Are they immoral? Or does morality only apply to humans? (Even animals that we traditionally think of as herbivorous are opportunistic meat eaters.)\n
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      Fourth: "Exploiting" is such an interesting claim. Vegans are typically opposed to honey, since they view it as an exploitative product. Are you aware that without commercial apiaries, agriculture would collapse? That is, without exploiting honey bees, we are not capable of pollinating crops?\n
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Component 
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowEnumComponent {#7457
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[]
Component 
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#7529
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[]
Component 
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#7592
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Attributes 
[]
Component 
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#7648
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[]
Component 
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#7707
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[
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]
Attributes 
[]
Component 
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#7763
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Input props 
[
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]
Attributes 
[]
Component 
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#7819
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Input props 
[
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Attributes 
[]
Component 
App\Twig\Components\UserSettingsRowSwitchComponent {#7877
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Input props 
[
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Attributes 
[]
Component 
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#7940
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Input props 
[
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]
Attributes 
[]
Component 
App\Twig\Components\UserSettingsRowSwitchComponent {#7998
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Input props 
[
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Attributes 
[]
Component 
App\Twig\Components\UserSettingsRowSwitchComponent {#8054
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[
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Attributes 
[]
Component 
App\Twig\Components\UserSettingsRowSwitchComponent {#8110
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settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent 14.0 MiB 0.13 ms
Input props 
[
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Attributes 
[]
Component 
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#8166
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settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent 14.0 MiB 0.12 ms
Input props 
[
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]
Attributes 
[]
Component 
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#8222
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  +help: ""
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settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent 14.0 MiB 0.13 ms
Input props 
[
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Attributes 
[]
Component 
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#8278
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Input props 
[
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Attributes 
[]
Component 
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#8334
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Input props 
[
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Attributes 
[]
Component 
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#8390
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Input props 
[
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Attributes 
[]
Component 
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#8446
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Input props 
[
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Attributes 
[]
Component 
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#8502
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[
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Attributes 
[]
Component 
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowEnumComponent {#8558
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Input props 
[
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Attributes 
[]
Component 
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#8616
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[
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]
Attributes 
[]
Component 
App\Twig\Components\DateComponent {#8689
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related_magazines App\Twig\Components\RelatedMagazinesComponent 14.0 MiB 2.07 ms
Input props 
[
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Attributes 
[]
Component 
App\Twig\Components\RelatedMagazinesComponent {#8776
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[
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Attributes 
[]
Component 
App\Twig\Components\ActiveUsersComponent {#8841
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[
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Attributes 
[]
Component 
App\Twig\Components\RelatedCategoriesComponent {#8900
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related_posts App\Twig\Components\RelatedPostsComponent 14.0 MiB 1.82 ms
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[
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Attributes 
[]
Component 
App\Twig\Components\RelatedPostsComponent {#8970
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[
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Attributes 
[]
Component 
App\Twig\Components\RelatedEntriesComponent {#9039
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Input props 
[]
Attributes 
[]
Component 
App\Twig\Components\SupportUsBlock {#9108
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[
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Attributes 
[]
Component 
App\Twig\Components\FeaturedMagazinesComponent {#9201
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