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        - [*The Will To Change: Men, Masculinity, And Love* by bell hooks](https://archive.org/details/the-will-to-change-men-masculinity-and-love-by-bell-hooks-z-lib.org.epub/page/n43/mode/2up)\n
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        ##### Related Communities\n
        \n
        !feminism@beehaw.org  \n
        !askmen@lemmy.world  \n
        !mensmentalhealth@lemmy.world\n
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        ---
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          No brigading— Do not participate if you have been linked to this discussion from elsewhere. Similarly, links to elsewhere on the threadiverse must promote constructive discussion of men’s issues. —\n
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          \n
          - [*The Will To Change: Men, Masculinity, And Love* by bell hooks](https://archive.org/details/the-will-to-change-men-masculinity-and-love-by-bell-hooks-z-lib.org.epub/page/n43/mode/2up)\n
          - *Politics of Masculinities: Men in Movements* by Michael Messner\n
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          ##### Related Communities\n
          \n
          !feminism@beehaw.org  \n
          !askmen@lemmy.world  \n
          !mensmentalhealth@lemmy.world\n
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          **This community is first and foremost a feminist community for men and masc people, but it is also a place to talk about men’s issues with a particular focus on intersectionality.**\n
          \n
          ---\n
          \n
          Rules\n
          -----\n
          \n
          Everybody is welcome, but this is primarily a space for men and masc people— Non-masculine perspectives are incredibly important in making sure that the lived experiences of others are present in discussions on masculinity, but please remember that this is a space to discuss issues pertaining to men and masc individuals. Be kind, open-minded, and take care that you aren’t talking over men expressing their own lived experiences. —\n
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          Be productive— Be proactive in forming a productive discussion. Constructive criticism of our community is fine, but if you mainly criticize feminism or other people’s efforts to solve gender issues, your post/comment will be removed. Keep the following guidelines in mind when posting: * Build upon the OP * Discuss concepts rather than semantics * No low effort comments * No personal attacks —\n
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          Assume good faith— Do not call other submitters’ personal experiences into question. —\n
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          No bigotry— Slurs, hate speech, and negative stereotyping towards marginalized groups will not be tolerated. —\n
          \n
          No brigading— Do not participate if you have been linked to this discussion from elsewhere. Similarly, links to elsewhere on the threadiverse must promote constructive discussion of men’s issues. —\n
          \n
          ---\n
          \n
          ##### Recommended Reading\n
          \n
          - [*The Will To Change: Men, Masculinity, And Love* by bell hooks](https://archive.org/details/the-will-to-change-men-masculinity-and-love-by-bell-hooks-z-lib.org.epub/page/n43/mode/2up)\n
          - *Politics of Masculinities: Men in Movements* by Michael Messner\n
          \n
          ---\n
          \n
          ##### Related Communities\n
          \n
          !feminism@beehaw.org  \n
          !askmen@lemmy.world  \n
          !mensmentalhealth@lemmy.world\n
          \n
          ---
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        This is a tough piece, one that I share without fully endorsing. It lays out the problems that women experience with some men, like that men are not getting college degrees at the same rate as women or the lack of emotional modelling provided to boys and young men:\n
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        > For a variety of reasons — mixed messages from the broader culture about toughness and vulnerability, the activity-oriented nature of male friendships — it seems that by the time men begin dating, they are relatively “limited in their ability and willingness to be fully emotionally present and available,” he said.\n
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        Where I think it stops short is in thinking about the root causes of those things, and how supporting men can bring them into the feminist tent.
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      Locking as repost. Previous discussion here: [kbin.social/m/mensliberation@lemmy.ca/t/623593](https://kbin.social/m/mensliberation@lemmy.ca/t/623593)\n
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