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        ##### Recommended Reading\n
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        !feminism@beehaw.org  \n
        !askmen@lemmy.world  \n
        !mensmentalhealth@lemmy.world\n
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      I’ve been thinking about this recently and it’s one of those innocent sayings that are quite insensitive. Growing up I heard this quite a lot, usually in response to being shy about asking someone out.\n
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    Or the best phrase ist: there is no point in generalizing literally half of human population.\n
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    ##### Recommended Reading\n
    \n
    - [*The Will To Change: Men, Masculinity, And Love* by bell hooks](https://archive.org/details/the-will-to-change-men-masculinity-and-love-by-bell-hooks-z-lib.org.epub/page/n43/mode/2up)\n
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