GET https://kbin.spritesserver.nl/u/@acchariya@lemmy.world/active

Response
200 OK
IP
216.73.216.194
Profiled on
Token
2d96b9

Components

21 Twig Components
66 Render Count
53 ms Render Time
12.0 MiB Memory Usage

Components

Name Metadata Render Count Render Time
settings_row_switch 
"App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent"
components/_settings_row_switch.html.twig 		15 1.82ms
date 
"App\Twig\Components\DateComponent"
components/date.html.twig 		6 1.10ms
user_inline 
"App\Twig\Components\UserInlineComponent"
components/user_inline.html.twig 		5 2.01ms
date_edited 
"App\Twig\Components\DateEditedComponent"
components/date_edited.html.twig 		5 0.81ms
vote 
"App\Twig\Components\VoteComponent"
components/vote.html.twig 		5 2.41ms
boost 
"App\Twig\Components\BoostComponent"
components/boost.html.twig 		5 4.36ms
user_settings_row_switch 
"App\Twig\Components\UserSettingsRowSwitchComponent"
components/_user_settings_row_switch.html.twig 		4 0.60ms
entry_comment 
"App\Twig\Components\EntryCommentComponent"
components/entry_comment.html.twig 		3 21.79ms
user_avatar 
"App\Twig\Components\UserAvatarComponent"
components/user_avatar.html.twig 		3 1.53ms
entry 
"App\Twig\Components\EntryComponent"
components/_cached.html.twig 		2 20.10ms
magazine_inline 
"App\Twig\Components\MagazineInlineComponent"
components/magazine_inline.html.twig 		2 0.50ms
settings_row_enum 
"App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowEnumComponent"
components/_settings_row_enum.html.twig 		2 0.36ms
user_box 
"App\Twig\Components\UserBoxComponent"
components/user_box.html.twig 		1 1.57ms
user_actions 
"App\Twig\Components\UserActionsComponent"
components/user_actions.html.twig 		1 0.53ms
related_magazines 
"App\Twig\Components\RelatedMagazinesComponent"
components/_cached.html.twig 		1 1.63ms
active_users 
"App\Twig\Components\ActiveUsersComponent"
components/_cached.html.twig 		1 0.23ms
related_categories 
"App\Twig\Components\RelatedCategoriesComponent"
components/_cached.html.twig 		1 1.27ms
related_posts 
"App\Twig\Components\RelatedPostsComponent"
components/_cached.html.twig 		1 1.37ms
related_entries 
"App\Twig\Components\RelatedEntriesComponent"
components/_cached.html.twig 		1 1.33ms
support_us_block 
"App\Twig\Components\SupportUsBlock"
components/_cached.html.twig 		1 0.22ms
featured_magazines 
"App\Twig\Components\FeaturedMagazinesComponent"
components/_cached.html.twig 		1 0.83ms

Render calls

user_box App\Twig\Components\UserBoxComponent 12.0 MiB 1.57 ms
Input props 
[
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    +avatar: null
    +cover: null
    +email: "acchariya@lemmy.world"
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    +roles: []
    +followersCount: 0
    +homepage: "front"
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    +lastActive: DateTime @1729256634 {#274
      date: 2024-10-18 15:03:54.0 +02:00
    }
    +markedForDeletionAt: null
    +fields: null
    +oauthGithubId: null
    +oauthGoogleId: null
    +oauthFacebookId: null
    +oauthKeycloakId: null
    +hideAdult: true
    +showSubscribedUsers: true
    +showSubscribedMagazines: true
    +showSubscribedDomains: true
    +preferredLanguages: []
    +featuredMagazines: null
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    +showProfileFollowings: true
    +markNewComments: false
    +notifyOnNewEntry: false
    +notifyOnNewEntryReply: true
    +notifyOnNewEntryCommentReply: true
    +notifyOnNewPost: false
    +notifyOnNewPostReply: true
    +notifyOnNewPostCommentReply: true
    +addMentionsEntries: false
    +addMentionsPosts: true
    +isBanned: false
    +isVerified: false
    +isDeleted: false
    +isBot: false
    +spamProtection: true
    +customCss: null
    +ignoreMagazinesCustomCss: false
    +moderatorTokens: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#248 …}
    +magazineOwnershipRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#244 …}
    +moderatorRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#233 …}
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    +entryCommentVotes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#106 …}
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    +postVotes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#94 …}
    +postComments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1793 …}
    +postCommentVotes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1847 …}
    +subscriptions: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2478 …}
    +subscribedDomains: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1871 …}
    +follows: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1605 …}
    +followers: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1770 …}
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    +blockers: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1827 …}
    +blockedMagazines: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2415 …}
    +blockedDomains: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1794 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2421 …}
    +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1931 …}
    +violations: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2401 …}
    +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1885 …}
    +awards: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1951 …}
    +subscribedCategories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1886 …}
    +categories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1924 …}
    -id: 93890
    -password: "$2y$13$GMvuDc/dG5DZj9K8JQA4PemWQexLQV4eTPdLwM5DNncOgT2IowoLa"
    -totpSecret: null
    -totpBackupCodes: []
    -oAuth2UserConsents: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1896 …}
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    +apFollowersUrl: null
    +apInboxUrl: "https://lemmy.world/inbox"
    +apDomain: "lemmy.world"
    +apPreferredUsername: "acchariya"
    +apDiscoverable: true
    +apManuallyApprovesFollowers: false
    +privateKey: null
    +publicKey: null
    +apFetchedAt: DateTime @1729246568 {#277
      date: 2024-10-18 12:16:08.0 +02:00
    }
    +apDeletedAt: null
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    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1729246568 {#273
      date: 2024-10-18 12:16:08.0 +02:00
    }
  }
  "stretchedLink" => false
]
Attributes 
[]
Component 
App\Twig\Components\UserBoxComponent {#2087
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    +avatar: null
    +cover: null
    +email: "acchariya@lemmy.world"
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    +roles: []
    +followersCount: 0
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    +lastActive: DateTime @1729256634 {#274
      date: 2024-10-18 15:03:54.0 +02:00
    }
    +markedForDeletionAt: null
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    +oauthKeycloakId: null
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    +showSubscribedMagazines: true
    +showSubscribedDomains: true
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    +featuredMagazines: null
    +showProfileSubscriptions: false
    +showProfileFollowings: true
    +markNewComments: false
    +notifyOnNewEntry: false
    +notifyOnNewEntryReply: true
    +notifyOnNewEntryCommentReply: true
    +notifyOnNewPost: false
    +notifyOnNewPostReply: true
    +notifyOnNewPostCommentReply: true
    +addMentionsEntries: false
    +addMentionsPosts: true
    +isBanned: false
    +isVerified: false
    +isDeleted: false
    +isBot: false
    +spamProtection: true
    +customCss: null
    +ignoreMagazinesCustomCss: false
    +moderatorTokens: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#248 …}
    +magazineOwnershipRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#244 …}
    +moderatorRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#233 …}
    +entries: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#191 …}
    +entryVotes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#163 …}
    +entryComments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#136 …}
    +entryCommentVotes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#106 …}
    +posts: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#79 …}
    +postVotes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#94 …}
    +postComments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1793 …}
    +postCommentVotes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1847 …}
    +subscriptions: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2478 …}
    +subscribedDomains: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1871 …}
    +follows: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1605 …}
    +followers: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1770 …}
    +blocks: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1844 …}
    +blockers: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1827 …}
    +blockedMagazines: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2415 …}
    +blockedDomains: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1794 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2421 …}
    +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1931 …}
    +violations: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2401 …}
    +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1885 …}
    +awards: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1951 …}
    +subscribedCategories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1886 …}
    +categories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1924 …}
    -id: 93890
    -password: "$2y$13$GMvuDc/dG5DZj9K8JQA4PemWQexLQV4eTPdLwM5DNncOgT2IowoLa"
    -totpSecret: null
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    -oAuth2UserConsents: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1896 …}
    +apId: "acchariya@lemmy.world"
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    +apFollowersUrl: null
    +apInboxUrl: "https://lemmy.world/inbox"
    +apDomain: "lemmy.world"
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    +apDiscoverable: true
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    +privateKey: null
    +publicKey: null
    +apFetchedAt: DateTime @1729246568 {#277
      date: 2024-10-18 12:16:08.0 +02:00
    }
    +apDeletedAt: null
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    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1729246568 {#273
      date: 2024-10-18 12:16:08.0 +02:00
    }
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}
user_actions App\Twig\Components\UserActionsComponent 12.0 MiB 0.53 ms
Input props 
[
  "user" => App\Entity\User {#261
    +avatar: null
    +cover: null
    +email: "acchariya@lemmy.world"
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    +roles: []
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    +oauthGoogleId: null
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    +notifyOnNewPostCommentReply: true
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    +spamProtection: true
    +customCss: null
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    +moderatorTokens: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#248 …}
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]
Attributes 
[]
Component 
App\Twig\Components\UserActionsComponent {#2222
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Input props 
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        ##### ⚓ Community devoted to in-depth debate on topics concerning digital piracy, ethical problems, and legal advancements.\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        ### Rules • [Full Version](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
        \n
        **1**. Posts must be related to the discussion of digital piracy\n
        \n
        **2**. Don’t request invites, trade, sell, or self-promote\n
        \n
        **3**. Don’t request or link to specific pirated titles, including DMs\n
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        **4**. Don’t submit low-quality posts, be entitled, or harass others\n
        \n
        **5**. Don’t post questions already answered. READ THE [WIKI](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/10901)\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        [![](https://a.imagem.app/oZoQ1v.png)](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/10901)\n
        ---------------------------------------------------------------------------\n
        \n
        ### Loot, Pillage, & Plunder\n
        \n
        - [📜 Megathread](https://rentry.co/megathread)\n
        - [🪶 FAQ](https://rentry.co/piracy-faq)\n
        - [🪶 ISP Complaints](https://rentry.co/piracy-isp-complaints)\n
        - [🪶 Rules](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        💰 Please help cover server costs.\n
        \n
        [![Ko-Fi](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/4a2f073a-3dd8-492a-942d-72bd929c9f1d.png)](https://ko-fi.com/dbzer0)[![Liberapay](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/eec4659d-39be-4fc9-bc9e-66a96285ea2c.png)](https://liberapay.com/db0/)\n
        \n
        ---
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      I know this isn’t *strictly* piracy related, I apologise, but I think it is tangentally related in that piracy protects you from data theft by avoiding the services the biggest thieves operate. Also, I feel like people here might be very interested in this take.\n
      \n
      Apparently, the “legal” data brokerage industry was worth $319 billion in 2021, and is predicted to be worth $545 billion in 2028.[^1]\n
      \n
      Meanwhile, in 2021 there were only 7.9 billion people in the world[^2] - many of whom do not have internet access or have very little data being traded. If we generously assume 6 billion people have equal volumes of data being traded, that means **each person’s data is worth $53.17 per year on the market.**\n
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      Data is effectively stolen from people. We do not get anything in return for it. We may be offered access to a website free of charge, but that is a separate transaction - it is not appropriate for another transaction to be hidden in the fine print of the terms and conditions. When you buy insurance, the key terms have to be front and centre - you pay x, you get y service. Not “You can have y for free!!! ^(But^ ^also^ ^you^ ^give^ ^us^ ^x^ ^for^ ^free.)^” You’re supposed to be able to compare the value of the things being traded.\n
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      Bearing in mind that this is merely data brokerage, not actual processing or deriving any value from the data, a simple profit margin can be applied. They simply collect the data - easily and at low cost through automated processes - and then sell it. If businesses still took a very generous 30% profit (rather than a ludicrous infinite and pure profit) then **the value of an average person’s data that they are owed is around $40 per year.**\n
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      To run the other numbers to check, the global population in 2028 is predicted to be 8.4 billion - a growth of 6.329%. So our 6 billion population would become 6.38 billion, and with the $545 billion market value an individual’s data would be worth $85.43 on the market, or $65.71 to the individual. The value of user data is predicted to rise.\n
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      Obviously that 6 billion population figure I used is an approximation - a blind one at that. To give a worst case valuation for 2021, if we assume all 7.9 billion people equally have data being traded, then an individual’s data is worth $40.38 on the market, and $31.06 to the user. These are the minimum values, averaged evenly across the entire global population.\n
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      ---\n
      \n
      When Google and Facebook started out, data had very little value - there was no market for it. Thus it seemed reasonable to let them just take it, even if maybe it could be worth something. The service they offered was new and novel, a shiny new toy for everyone to play with. They then used this data to become some of the wealthiest businesses in the world. Now, even big players like Microsoft have joined in, in spite of the fact that their main products are paid products.\n
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      One form of bank fraud is where the criminal takes pennies out of multiple accounts, the idea being that people won’t notice such a small debit, and banks might write it off as some kind of error. This has been legislated against and proven illegal - yet these assholes take $40 each from *everyone* and get away with it!\n
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      [^1]:[knowledge-sourcing.com/…/global-data-broker-marke…](https://www.knowledge-sourcing.com/report/global-data-broker-market) Edit: lmao we broke it [web.archive.org/web/…/global-data-broker-market](https://web.archive.org/web/20240107042301/https://www.knowledge-sourcing.com/report/global-data-broker-market) …or did they maybe take it down?? /tinfoil Edit2: it’s back up lol [^2]:[www.populationpyramid.net/world/2021/](https://www.populationpyramid.net/world/2021/)
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            Disclosure: I’m affiliated with this company.\n
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            There’s a platform where you can add personal data in the form of questionnaires, documents, and integrations that pull profile data from social media, then allows you to sell the data to buyers at your discretion. The platform does not own your data, does not access it, and simply acts as a broker directly between you and the buyer. Not a ton of activity on it at the moment, but it’s picking up as clients shift spending from big tech to pay users for their own acquisition.\n
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            [tartle.co](https://tartle.co)
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        \n
        ### Rules • [Full Version](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
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        **1**. Posts must be related to the discussion of digital piracy\n
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        [![](https://a.imagem.app/oZoQ1v.png)](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/10901)\n
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        ### Loot, Pillage, & Plunder\n
        \n
        - [📜 Megathread](https://rentry.co/megathread)\n
        - [🪶 FAQ](https://rentry.co/piracy-faq)\n
        - [🪶 ISP Complaints](https://rentry.co/piracy-isp-complaints)\n
        - [🪶 Rules](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
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        [![Ko-Fi](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/4a2f073a-3dd8-492a-942d-72bd929c9f1d.png)](https://ko-fi.com/dbzer0)[![Liberapay](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/eec4659d-39be-4fc9-bc9e-66a96285ea2c.png)](https://liberapay.com/db0/)\n
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      I know this isn’t *strictly* piracy related, I apologise, but I think it is tangentally related in that piracy protects you from data theft by avoiding the services the biggest thieves operate. Also, I feel like people here might be very interested in this take.\n
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      To run the other numbers to check, the global population in 2028 is predicted to be 8.4 billion - a growth of 6.329%. So our 6 billion population would become 6.38 billion, and with the $545 billion market value an individual’s data would be worth $85.43 on the market, or $65.71 to the individual. The value of user data is predicted to rise.\n
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      When Google and Facebook started out, data had very little value - there was no market for it. Thus it seemed reasonable to let them just take it, even if maybe it could be worth something. The service they offered was new and novel, a shiny new toy for everyone to play with. They then used this data to become some of the wealthiest businesses in the world. Now, even big players like Microsoft have joined in, in spite of the fact that their main products are paid products.\n
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      [^1]:[knowledge-sourcing.com/…/global-data-broker-marke…](https://www.knowledge-sourcing.com/report/global-data-broker-market) Edit: lmao we broke it [web.archive.org/web/…/global-data-broker-market](https://web.archive.org/web/20240107042301/https://www.knowledge-sourcing.com/report/global-data-broker-market) …or did they maybe take it down?? /tinfoil Edit2: it’s back up lol [^2]:[www.populationpyramid.net/world/2021/](https://www.populationpyramid.net/world/2021/)
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        ##### ⚓ Community devoted to in-depth debate on topics concerning digital piracy, ethical problems, and legal advancements.\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        ### Rules • [Full Version](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
        \n
        **1**. Posts must be related to the discussion of digital piracy\n
        \n
        **2**. Don’t request invites, trade, sell, or self-promote\n
        \n
        **3**. Don’t request or link to specific pirated titles, including DMs\n
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        **4**. Don’t submit low-quality posts, be entitled, or harass others\n
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        **5**. Don’t post questions already answered. READ THE [WIKI](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/10901)\n
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        ---\n
        \n
        [![](https://a.imagem.app/oZoQ1v.png)](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/10901)\n
        ---------------------------------------------------------------------------\n
        \n
        ### Loot, Pillage, & Plunder\n
        \n
        - [📜 Megathread](https://rentry.co/megathread)\n
        - [🪶 FAQ](https://rentry.co/piracy-faq)\n
        - [🪶 ISP Complaints](https://rentry.co/piracy-isp-complaints)\n
        - [🪶 Rules](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        💰 Please help cover server costs.\n
        \n
        [![Ko-Fi](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/4a2f073a-3dd8-492a-942d-72bd929c9f1d.png)](https://ko-fi.com/dbzer0)[![Liberapay](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/eec4659d-39be-4fc9-bc9e-66a96285ea2c.png)](https://liberapay.com/db0/)\n
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      I know this isn’t *strictly* piracy related, I apologise, but I think it is tangentally related in that piracy protects you from data theft by avoiding the services the biggest thieves operate. Also, I feel like people here might be very interested in this take.\n
      \n
      Apparently, the “legal” data brokerage industry was worth $319 billion in 2021, and is predicted to be worth $545 billion in 2028.[^1]\n
      \n
      Meanwhile, in 2021 there were only 7.9 billion people in the world[^2] - many of whom do not have internet access or have very little data being traded. If we generously assume 6 billion people have equal volumes of data being traded, that means **each person’s data is worth $53.17 per year on the market.**\n
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      Data is effectively stolen from people. We do not get anything in return for it. We may be offered access to a website free of charge, but that is a separate transaction - it is not appropriate for another transaction to be hidden in the fine print of the terms and conditions. When you buy insurance, the key terms have to be front and centre - you pay x, you get y service. Not “You can have y for free!!! ^(But^ ^also^ ^you^ ^give^ ^us^ ^x^ ^for^ ^free.)^” You’re supposed to be able to compare the value of the things being traded.\n
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      Bearing in mind that this is merely data brokerage, not actual processing or deriving any value from the data, a simple profit margin can be applied. They simply collect the data - easily and at low cost through automated processes - and then sell it. If businesses still took a very generous 30% profit (rather than a ludicrous infinite and pure profit) then **the value of an average person’s data that they are owed is around $40 per year.**\n
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      To run the other numbers to check, the global population in 2028 is predicted to be 8.4 billion - a growth of 6.329%. So our 6 billion population would become 6.38 billion, and with the $545 billion market value an individual’s data would be worth $85.43 on the market, or $65.71 to the individual. The value of user data is predicted to rise.\n
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      Obviously that 6 billion population figure I used is an approximation - a blind one at that. To give a worst case valuation for 2021, if we assume all 7.9 billion people equally have data being traded, then an individual’s data is worth $40.38 on the market, and $31.06 to the user. These are the minimum values, averaged evenly across the entire global population.\n
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      When Google and Facebook started out, data had very little value - there was no market for it. Thus it seemed reasonable to let them just take it, even if maybe it could be worth something. The service they offered was new and novel, a shiny new toy for everyone to play with. They then used this data to become some of the wealthiest businesses in the world. Now, even big players like Microsoft have joined in, in spite of the fact that their main products are paid products.\n
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      One form of bank fraud is where the criminal takes pennies out of multiple accounts, the idea being that people won’t notice such a small debit, and banks might write it off as some kind of error. This has been legislated against and proven illegal - yet these assholes take $40 each from *everyone* and get away with it!\n
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      [^1]:[knowledge-sourcing.com/…/global-data-broker-marke…](https://www.knowledge-sourcing.com/report/global-data-broker-market) Edit: lmao we broke it [web.archive.org/web/…/global-data-broker-market](https://web.archive.org/web/20240107042301/https://www.knowledge-sourcing.com/report/global-data-broker-market) …or did they maybe take it down?? /tinfoil Edit2: it’s back up lol [^2]:[www.populationpyramid.net/world/2021/](https://www.populationpyramid.net/world/2021/)
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            Disclosure: I’m affiliated with this company.\n
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            There’s a platform where you can add personal data in the form of questionnaires, documents, and integrations that pull profile data from social media, then allows you to sell the data to buyers at your discretion. The platform does not own your data, does not access it, and simply acts as a broker directly between you and the buyer. Not a ton of activity on it at the moment, but it’s picking up as clients shift spending from big tech to pay users for their own acquisition.\n
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            [tartle.co](https://tartle.co)
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        ### Rules • [Full Version](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
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        ### Loot, Pillage, & Plunder\n
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        - [📜 Megathread](https://rentry.co/megathread)\n
        - [🪶 FAQ](https://rentry.co/piracy-faq)\n
        - [🪶 ISP Complaints](https://rentry.co/piracy-isp-complaints)\n
        - [🪶 Rules](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
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      I know this isn’t *strictly* piracy related, I apologise, but I think it is tangentally related in that piracy protects you from data theft by avoiding the services the biggest thieves operate. Also, I feel like people here might be very interested in this take.\n
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      When Google and Facebook started out, data had very little value - there was no market for it. Thus it seemed reasonable to let them just take it, even if maybe it could be worth something. The service they offered was new and novel, a shiny new toy for everyone to play with. They then used this data to become some of the wealthiest businesses in the world. Now, even big players like Microsoft have joined in, in spite of the fact that their main products are paid products.\n
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        ### Rules • [Full Version](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
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        ### Loot, Pillage, & Plunder\n
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        - [📜 Megathread](https://rentry.co/megathread)\n
        - [🪶 FAQ](https://rentry.co/piracy-faq)\n
        - [🪶 ISP Complaints](https://rentry.co/piracy-isp-complaints)\n
        - [🪶 Rules](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
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      I know this isn’t *strictly* piracy related, I apologise, but I think it is tangentally related in that piracy protects you from data theft by avoiding the services the biggest thieves operate. Also, I feel like people here might be very interested in this take.\n
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      To run the other numbers to check, the global population in 2028 is predicted to be 8.4 billion - a growth of 6.329%. So our 6 billion population would become 6.38 billion, and with the $545 billion market value an individual’s data would be worth $85.43 on the market, or $65.71 to the individual. The value of user data is predicted to rise.\n
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      When Google and Facebook started out, data had very little value - there was no market for it. Thus it seemed reasonable to let them just take it, even if maybe it could be worth something. The service they offered was new and novel, a shiny new toy for everyone to play with. They then used this data to become some of the wealthiest businesses in the world. Now, even big players like Microsoft have joined in, in spite of the fact that their main products are paid products.\n
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      One form of bank fraud is where the criminal takes pennies out of multiple accounts, the idea being that people won’t notice such a small debit, and banks might write it off as some kind of error. This has been legislated against and proven illegal - yet these assholes take $40 each from *everyone* and get away with it!\n
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      [^1]:[knowledge-sourcing.com/…/global-data-broker-marke…](https://www.knowledge-sourcing.com/report/global-data-broker-market) Edit: lmao we broke it [web.archive.org/web/…/global-data-broker-market](https://web.archive.org/web/20240107042301/https://www.knowledge-sourcing.com/report/global-data-broker-market) …or did they maybe take it down?? /tinfoil Edit2: it’s back up lol [^2]:[www.populationpyramid.net/world/2021/](https://www.populationpyramid.net/world/2021/)
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            There’s a platform where you can add personal data in the form of questionnaires, documents, and integrations that pull profile data from social media, then allows you to sell the data to buyers at your discretion. The platform does not own your data, does not access it, and simply acts as a broker directly between you and the buyer. Not a ton of activity on it at the moment, but it’s picking up as clients shift spending from big tech to pay users for their own acquisition.\n
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            [tartle.co](https://tartle.co)
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        ### Rules • [Full Version](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
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        [![](https://a.imagem.app/oZoQ1v.png)](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/10901)\n
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        ### Loot, Pillage, & Plunder\n
        \n
        - [📜 Megathread](https://rentry.co/megathread)\n
        - [🪶 FAQ](https://rentry.co/piracy-faq)\n
        - [🪶 ISP Complaints](https://rentry.co/piracy-isp-complaints)\n
        - [🪶 Rules](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
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      I know this isn’t *strictly* piracy related, I apologise, but I think it is tangentally related in that piracy protects you from data theft by avoiding the services the biggest thieves operate. Also, I feel like people here might be very interested in this take.\n
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      To run the other numbers to check, the global population in 2028 is predicted to be 8.4 billion - a growth of 6.329%. So our 6 billion population would become 6.38 billion, and with the $545 billion market value an individual’s data would be worth $85.43 on the market, or $65.71 to the individual. The value of user data is predicted to rise.\n
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      When Google and Facebook started out, data had very little value - there was no market for it. Thus it seemed reasonable to let them just take it, even if maybe it could be worth something. The service they offered was new and novel, a shiny new toy for everyone to play with. They then used this data to become some of the wealthiest businesses in the world. Now, even big players like Microsoft have joined in, in spite of the fact that their main products are paid products.\n
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      One form of bank fraud is where the criminal takes pennies out of multiple accounts, the idea being that people won’t notice such a small debit, and banks might write it off as some kind of error. This has been legislated against and proven illegal - yet these assholes take $40 each from *everyone* and get away with it!\n
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      [^1]:[knowledge-sourcing.com/…/global-data-broker-marke…](https://www.knowledge-sourcing.com/report/global-data-broker-market) Edit: lmao we broke it [web.archive.org/web/…/global-data-broker-market](https://web.archive.org/web/20240107042301/https://www.knowledge-sourcing.com/report/global-data-broker-market) …or did they maybe take it down?? /tinfoil Edit2: it’s back up lol [^2]:[www.populationpyramid.net/world/2021/](https://www.populationpyramid.net/world/2021/)
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          \n
          ### Rules • [Full Version](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
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          ### Loot, Pillage, & Plunder\n
          \n
          - [📜 Megathread](https://rentry.co/megathread)\n
          - [🪶 FAQ](https://rentry.co/piracy-faq)\n
          - [🪶 ISP Complaints](https://rentry.co/piracy-isp-complaints)\n
          - [🪶 Rules](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
          \n
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          \n
          💰 Please help cover server costs.\n
          \n
          [![Ko-Fi](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/4a2f073a-3dd8-492a-942d-72bd929c9f1d.png)](https://ko-fi.com/dbzer0)[![Liberapay](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/eec4659d-39be-4fc9-bc9e-66a96285ea2c.png)](https://liberapay.com/db0/)\n
          \n
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        I know this isn’t *strictly* piracy related, I apologise, but I think it is tangentally related in that piracy protects you from data theft by avoiding the services the biggest thieves operate. Also, I feel like people here might be very interested in this take.\n
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        When Google and Facebook started out, data had very little value - there was no market for it. Thus it seemed reasonable to let them just take it, even if maybe it could be worth something. The service they offered was new and novel, a shiny new toy for everyone to play with. They then used this data to become some of the wealthiest businesses in the world. Now, even big players like Microsoft have joined in, in spite of the fact that their main products are paid products.\n
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        One form of bank fraud is where the criminal takes pennies out of multiple accounts, the idea being that people won’t notice such a small debit, and banks might write it off as some kind of error. This has been legislated against and proven illegal - yet these assholes take $40 each from *everyone* and get away with it!\n
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        I know this isn’t *strictly* piracy related, I apologise, but I think it is tangentally related in that piracy protects you from data theft by avoiding the services the biggest thieves operate. Also, I feel like people here might be very interested in this take.\n
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        Apparently, the “legal” data brokerage industry was worth $319 billion in 2021, and is predicted to be worth $545 billion in 2028.[^1]\n
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        Meanwhile, in 2021 there were only 7.9 billion people in the world[^2] - many of whom do not have internet access or have very little data being traded. If we generously assume 6 billion people have equal volumes of data being traded, that means **each person’s data is worth $53.17 per year on the market.**\n
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        Data is effectively stolen from people. We do not get anything in return for it. We may be offered access to a website free of charge, but that is a separate transaction - it is not appropriate for another transaction to be hidden in the fine print of the terms and conditions. When you buy insurance, the key terms have to be front and centre - you pay x, you get y service. Not “You can have y for free!!! ^(But^ ^also^ ^you^ ^give^ ^us^ ^x^ ^for^ ^free.)^” You’re supposed to be able to compare the value of the things being traded.\n
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        To run the other numbers to check, the global population in 2028 is predicted to be 8.4 billion - a growth of 6.329%. So our 6 billion population would become 6.38 billion, and with the $545 billion market value an individual’s data would be worth $85.43 on the market, or $65.71 to the individual. The value of user data is predicted to rise.\n
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        Obviously that 6 billion population figure I used is an approximation - a blind one at that. To give a worst case valuation for 2021, if we assume all 7.9 billion people equally have data being traded, then an individual’s data is worth $40.38 on the market, and $31.06 to the user. These are the minimum values, averaged evenly across the entire global population.\n
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        When Google and Facebook started out, data had very little value - there was no market for it. Thus it seemed reasonable to let them just take it, even if maybe it could be worth something. The service they offered was new and novel, a shiny new toy for everyone to play with. They then used this data to become some of the wealthiest businesses in the world. Now, even big players like Microsoft have joined in, in spite of the fact that their main products are paid products.\n
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        One form of bank fraud is where the criminal takes pennies out of multiple accounts, the idea being that people won’t notice such a small debit, and banks might write it off as some kind of error. This has been legislated against and proven illegal - yet these assholes take $40 each from *everyone* and get away with it!\n
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        [^1]:[knowledge-sourcing.com/…/global-data-broker-marke…](https://www.knowledge-sourcing.com/report/global-data-broker-market) Edit: lmao we broke it [web.archive.org/web/…/global-data-broker-market](https://web.archive.org/web/20240107042301/https://www.knowledge-sourcing.com/report/global-data-broker-market) …or did they maybe take it down?? /tinfoil Edit2: it’s back up lol [^2]:[www.populationpyramid.net/world/2021/](https://www.populationpyramid.net/world/2021/)
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            Disclosure: I’m affiliated with this company.\n
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            There’s a platform where you can add personal data in the form of questionnaires, documents, and integrations that pull profile data from social media, then allows you to sell the data to buyers at your discretion. The platform does not own your data, does not access it, and simply acts as a broker directly between you and the buyer. Not a ton of activity on it at the moment, but it’s picking up as clients shift spending from big tech to pay users for their own acquisition.\n
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          ##### ⚓ Community devoted to in-depth debate on topics concerning digital piracy, ethical problems, and legal advancements.\n
          \n
          ---\n
          \n
          ### Rules • [Full Version](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
          \n
          **1**. Posts must be related to the discussion of digital piracy\n
          \n
          **2**. Don’t request invites, trade, sell, or self-promote\n
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          **3**. Don’t request or link to specific pirated titles, including DMs\n
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          **4**. Don’t submit low-quality posts, be entitled, or harass others\n
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          **5**. Don’t post questions already answered. READ THE [WIKI](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/10901)\n
          \n
          ---\n
          \n
          [![](https://a.imagem.app/oZoQ1v.png)](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/10901)\n
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          \n
          ### Loot, Pillage, & Plunder\n
          \n
          - [📜 Megathread](https://rentry.co/megathread)\n
          - [🪶 FAQ](https://rentry.co/piracy-faq)\n
          - [🪶 ISP Complaints](https://rentry.co/piracy-isp-complaints)\n
          - [🪶 Rules](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
          \n
          ---\n
          \n
          💰 Please help cover server costs.\n
          \n
          [![Ko-Fi](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/4a2f073a-3dd8-492a-942d-72bd929c9f1d.png)](https://ko-fi.com/dbzer0)[![Liberapay](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/eec4659d-39be-4fc9-bc9e-66a96285ea2c.png)](https://liberapay.com/db0/)\n
          \n
          ---
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        I know this isn’t *strictly* piracy related, I apologise, but I think it is tangentally related in that piracy protects you from data theft by avoiding the services the biggest thieves operate. Also, I feel like people here might be very interested in this take.\n
        \n
        Apparently, the “legal” data brokerage industry was worth $319 billion in 2021, and is predicted to be worth $545 billion in 2028.[^1]\n
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        Meanwhile, in 2021 there were only 7.9 billion people in the world[^2] - many of whom do not have internet access or have very little data being traded. If we generously assume 6 billion people have equal volumes of data being traded, that means **each person’s data is worth $53.17 per year on the market.**\n
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        Data is effectively stolen from people. We do not get anything in return for it. We may be offered access to a website free of charge, but that is a separate transaction - it is not appropriate for another transaction to be hidden in the fine print of the terms and conditions. When you buy insurance, the key terms have to be front and centre - you pay x, you get y service. Not “You can have y for free!!! ^(But^ ^also^ ^you^ ^give^ ^us^ ^x^ ^for^ ^free.)^” You’re supposed to be able to compare the value of the things being traded.\n
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        Bearing in mind that this is merely data brokerage, not actual processing or deriving any value from the data, a simple profit margin can be applied. They simply collect the data - easily and at low cost through automated processes - and then sell it. If businesses still took a very generous 30% profit (rather than a ludicrous infinite and pure profit) then **the value of an average person’s data that they are owed is around $40 per year.**\n
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        To run the other numbers to check, the global population in 2028 is predicted to be 8.4 billion - a growth of 6.329%. So our 6 billion population would become 6.38 billion, and with the $545 billion market value an individual’s data would be worth $85.43 on the market, or $65.71 to the individual. The value of user data is predicted to rise.\n
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        Obviously that 6 billion population figure I used is an approximation - a blind one at that. To give a worst case valuation for 2021, if we assume all 7.9 billion people equally have data being traded, then an individual’s data is worth $40.38 on the market, and $31.06 to the user. These are the minimum values, averaged evenly across the entire global population.\n
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        When Google and Facebook started out, data had very little value - there was no market for it. Thus it seemed reasonable to let them just take it, even if maybe it could be worth something. The service they offered was new and novel, a shiny new toy for everyone to play with. They then used this data to become some of the wealthiest businesses in the world. Now, even big players like Microsoft have joined in, in spite of the fact that their main products are paid products.\n
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          - [🪶 FAQ](https://rentry.co/piracy-faq)\n
          - [🪶 ISP Complaints](https://rentry.co/piracy-isp-complaints)\n
          - [🪶 Rules](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
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        To run the other numbers to check, the global population in 2028 is predicted to be 8.4 billion - a growth of 6.329%. So our 6 billion population would become 6.38 billion, and with the $545 billion market value an individual’s data would be worth $85.43 on the market, or $65.71 to the individual. The value of user data is predicted to rise.\n
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        When Google and Facebook started out, data had very little value - there was no market for it. Thus it seemed reasonable to let them just take it, even if maybe it could be worth something. The service they offered was new and novel, a shiny new toy for everyone to play with. They then used this data to become some of the wealthiest businesses in the world. Now, even big players like Microsoft have joined in, in spite of the fact that their main products are paid products.\n
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        One form of bank fraud is where the criminal takes pennies out of multiple accounts, the idea being that people won’t notice such a small debit, and banks might write it off as some kind of error. This has been legislated against and proven illegal - yet these assholes take $40 each from *everyone* and get away with it!\n
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        [^1]:[knowledge-sourcing.com/…/global-data-broker-marke…](https://www.knowledge-sourcing.com/report/global-data-broker-market) Edit: lmao we broke it [web.archive.org/web/…/global-data-broker-market](https://web.archive.org/web/20240107042301/https://www.knowledge-sourcing.com/report/global-data-broker-market) …or did they maybe take it down?? /tinfoil Edit2: it’s back up lol [^2]:[www.populationpyramid.net/world/2021/](https://www.populationpyramid.net/world/2021/)
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        I know this isn’t *strictly* piracy related, I apologise, but I think it is tangentally related in that piracy protects you from data theft by avoiding the services the biggest thieves operate. Also, I feel like people here might be very interested in this take.\n
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        Apparently, the “legal” data brokerage industry was worth $319 billion in 2021, and is predicted to be worth $545 billion in 2028.[^1]\n
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        Meanwhile, in 2021 there were only 7.9 billion people in the world[^2] - many of whom do not have internet access or have very little data being traded. If we generously assume 6 billion people have equal volumes of data being traded, that means **each person’s data is worth $53.17 per year on the market.**\n
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        Data is effectively stolen from people. We do not get anything in return for it. We may be offered access to a website free of charge, but that is a separate transaction - it is not appropriate for another transaction to be hidden in the fine print of the terms and conditions. When you buy insurance, the key terms have to be front and centre - you pay x, you get y service. Not “You can have y for free!!! ^(But^ ^also^ ^you^ ^give^ ^us^ ^x^ ^for^ ^free.)^” You’re supposed to be able to compare the value of the things being traded.\n
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        To run the other numbers to check, the global population in 2028 is predicted to be 8.4 billion - a growth of 6.329%. So our 6 billion population would become 6.38 billion, and with the $545 billion market value an individual’s data would be worth $85.43 on the market, or $65.71 to the individual. The value of user data is predicted to rise.\n
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        When Google and Facebook started out, data had very little value - there was no market for it. Thus it seemed reasonable to let them just take it, even if maybe it could be worth something. The service they offered was new and novel, a shiny new toy for everyone to play with. They then used this data to become some of the wealthiest businesses in the world. Now, even big players like Microsoft have joined in, in spite of the fact that their main products are paid products.\n
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        One form of bank fraud is where the criminal takes pennies out of multiple accounts, the idea being that people won’t notice such a small debit, and banks might write it off as some kind of error. This has been legislated against and proven illegal - yet these assholes take $40 each from *everyone* and get away with it!\n
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        [^1]:[knowledge-sourcing.com/…/global-data-broker-marke…](https://www.knowledge-sourcing.com/report/global-data-broker-market) Edit: lmao we broke it [web.archive.org/web/…/global-data-broker-market](https://web.archive.org/web/20240107042301/https://www.knowledge-sourcing.com/report/global-data-broker-market) …or did they maybe take it down?? /tinfoil Edit2: it’s back up lol [^2]:[www.populationpyramid.net/world/2021/](https://www.populationpyramid.net/world/2021/)
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            Disclosure: I’m affiliated with this company.\n
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            There’s a platform where you can add personal data in the form of questionnaires, documents, and integrations that pull profile data from social media, then allows you to sell the data to buyers at your discretion. The platform does not own your data, does not access it, and simply acts as a broker directly between you and the buyer. Not a ton of activity on it at the moment, but it’s picking up as clients shift spending from big tech to pay users for their own acquisition.\n
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        I know this isn’t *strictly* piracy related, I apologise, but I think it is tangentally related in that piracy protects you from data theft by avoiding the services the biggest thieves operate. Also, I feel like people here might be very interested in this take.\n
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        Apparently, the “legal” data brokerage industry was worth $319 billion in 2021, and is predicted to be worth $545 billion in 2028.[^1]\n
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        Meanwhile, in 2021 there were only 7.9 billion people in the world[^2] - many of whom do not have internet access or have very little data being traded. If we generously assume 6 billion people have equal volumes of data being traded, that means **each person’s data is worth $53.17 per year on the market.**\n
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        Data is effectively stolen from people. We do not get anything in return for it. We may be offered access to a website free of charge, but that is a separate transaction - it is not appropriate for another transaction to be hidden in the fine print of the terms and conditions. When you buy insurance, the key terms have to be front and centre - you pay x, you get y service. Not “You can have y for free!!! ^(But^ ^also^ ^you^ ^give^ ^us^ ^x^ ^for^ ^free.)^” You’re supposed to be able to compare the value of the things being traded.\n
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        To run the other numbers to check, the global population in 2028 is predicted to be 8.4 billion - a growth of 6.329%. So our 6 billion population would become 6.38 billion, and with the $545 billion market value an individual’s data would be worth $85.43 on the market, or $65.71 to the individual. The value of user data is predicted to rise.\n
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        Obviously that 6 billion population figure I used is an approximation - a blind one at that. To give a worst case valuation for 2021, if we assume all 7.9 billion people equally have data being traded, then an individual’s data is worth $40.38 on the market, and $31.06 to the user. These are the minimum values, averaged evenly across the entire global population.\n
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        When Google and Facebook started out, data had very little value - there was no market for it. Thus it seemed reasonable to let them just take it, even if maybe it could be worth something. The service they offered was new and novel, a shiny new toy for everyone to play with. They then used this data to become some of the wealthiest businesses in the world. Now, even big players like Microsoft have joined in, in spite of the fact that their main products are paid products.\n
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        One form of bank fraud is where the criminal takes pennies out of multiple accounts, the idea being that people won’t notice such a small debit, and banks might write it off as some kind of error. This has been legislated against and proven illegal - yet these assholes take $40 each from *everyone* and get away with it!\n
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        [^1]:[knowledge-sourcing.com/…/global-data-broker-marke…](https://www.knowledge-sourcing.com/report/global-data-broker-market) Edit: lmao we broke it [web.archive.org/web/…/global-data-broker-market](https://web.archive.org/web/20240107042301/https://www.knowledge-sourcing.com/report/global-data-broker-market) …or did they maybe take it down?? /tinfoil Edit2: it’s back up lol [^2]:[www.populationpyramid.net/world/2021/](https://www.populationpyramid.net/world/2021/)
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            There’s a platform where you can add personal data in the form of questionnaires, documents, and integrations that pull profile data from social media, then allows you to sell the data to buyers at your discretion. The platform does not own your data, does not access it, and simply acts as a broker directly between you and the buyer. Not a ton of activity on it at the moment, but it’s picking up as clients shift spending from big tech to pay users for their own acquisition.\n
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          ##### ⚓ Community devoted to in-depth debate on topics concerning digital piracy, ethical problems, and legal advancements.\n
          \n
          ---\n
          \n
          ### Rules • [Full Version](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
          \n
          **1**. Posts must be related to the discussion of digital piracy\n
          \n
          **2**. Don’t request invites, trade, sell, or self-promote\n
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          **3**. Don’t request or link to specific pirated titles, including DMs\n
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          **4**. Don’t submit low-quality posts, be entitled, or harass others\n
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          **5**. Don’t post questions already answered. READ THE [WIKI](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/10901)\n
          \n
          ---\n
          \n
          [![](https://a.imagem.app/oZoQ1v.png)](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/10901)\n
          ---------------------------------------------------------------------------\n
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          ### Loot, Pillage, & Plunder\n
          \n
          - [📜 Megathread](https://rentry.co/megathread)\n
          - [🪶 FAQ](https://rentry.co/piracy-faq)\n
          - [🪶 ISP Complaints](https://rentry.co/piracy-isp-complaints)\n
          - [🪶 Rules](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
          \n
          ---\n
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          💰 Please help cover server costs.\n
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          [![Ko-Fi](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/4a2f073a-3dd8-492a-942d-72bd929c9f1d.png)](https://ko-fi.com/dbzer0)[![Liberapay](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/eec4659d-39be-4fc9-bc9e-66a96285ea2c.png)](https://liberapay.com/db0/)\n
          \n
          ---
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        I know this isn’t *strictly* piracy related, I apologise, but I think it is tangentally related in that piracy protects you from data theft by avoiding the services the biggest thieves operate. Also, I feel like people here might be very interested in this take.\n
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        Apparently, the “legal” data brokerage industry was worth $319 billion in 2021, and is predicted to be worth $545 billion in 2028.[^1]\n
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        Meanwhile, in 2021 there were only 7.9 billion people in the world[^2] - many of whom do not have internet access or have very little data being traded. If we generously assume 6 billion people have equal volumes of data being traded, that means **each person’s data is worth $53.17 per year on the market.**\n
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        Data is effectively stolen from people. We do not get anything in return for it. We may be offered access to a website free of charge, but that is a separate transaction - it is not appropriate for another transaction to be hidden in the fine print of the terms and conditions. When you buy insurance, the key terms have to be front and centre - you pay x, you get y service. Not “You can have y for free!!! ^(But^ ^also^ ^you^ ^give^ ^us^ ^x^ ^for^ ^free.)^” You’re supposed to be able to compare the value of the things being traded.\n
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        To run the other numbers to check, the global population in 2028 is predicted to be 8.4 billion - a growth of 6.329%. So our 6 billion population would become 6.38 billion, and with the $545 billion market value an individual’s data would be worth $85.43 on the market, or $65.71 to the individual. The value of user data is predicted to rise.\n
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        Obviously that 6 billion population figure I used is an approximation - a blind one at that. To give a worst case valuation for 2021, if we assume all 7.9 billion people equally have data being traded, then an individual’s data is worth $40.38 on the market, and $31.06 to the user. These are the minimum values, averaged evenly across the entire global population.\n
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        When Google and Facebook started out, data had very little value - there was no market for it. Thus it seemed reasonable to let them just take it, even if maybe it could be worth something. The service they offered was new and novel, a shiny new toy for everyone to play with. They then used this data to become some of the wealthiest businesses in the world. Now, even big players like Microsoft have joined in, in spite of the fact that their main products are paid products.\n
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        One form of bank fraud is where the criminal takes pennies out of multiple accounts, the idea being that people won’t notice such a small debit, and banks might write it off as some kind of error. This has been legislated against and proven illegal - yet these assholes take $40 each from *everyone* and get away with it!\n
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        [^1]:[knowledge-sourcing.com/…/global-data-broker-marke…](https://www.knowledge-sourcing.com/report/global-data-broker-market) Edit: lmao we broke it [web.archive.org/web/…/global-data-broker-market](https://web.archive.org/web/20240107042301/https://www.knowledge-sourcing.com/report/global-data-broker-market) …or did they maybe take it down?? /tinfoil Edit2: it’s back up lol [^2]:[www.populationpyramid.net/world/2021/](https://www.populationpyramid.net/world/2021/)
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          ##### ⚓ Community devoted to in-depth debate on topics concerning digital piracy, ethical problems, and legal advancements.\n
          \n
          ---\n
          \n
          ### Rules • [Full Version](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
          \n
          **1**. Posts must be related to the discussion of digital piracy\n
          \n
          **2**. Don’t request invites, trade, sell, or self-promote\n
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          **3**. Don’t request or link to specific pirated titles, including DMs\n
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          **4**. Don’t submit low-quality posts, be entitled, or harass others\n
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          **5**. Don’t post questions already answered. READ THE [WIKI](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/10901)\n
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          ---\n
          \n
          [![](https://a.imagem.app/oZoQ1v.png)](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/10901)\n
          ---------------------------------------------------------------------------\n
          \n
          ### Loot, Pillage, & Plunder\n
          \n
          - [📜 Megathread](https://rentry.co/megathread)\n
          - [🪶 FAQ](https://rentry.co/piracy-faq)\n
          - [🪶 ISP Complaints](https://rentry.co/piracy-isp-complaints)\n
          - [🪶 Rules](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
          \n
          ---\n
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          💰 Please help cover server costs.\n
          \n
          [![Ko-Fi](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/4a2f073a-3dd8-492a-942d-72bd929c9f1d.png)](https://ko-fi.com/dbzer0)[![Liberapay](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/eec4659d-39be-4fc9-bc9e-66a96285ea2c.png)](https://liberapay.com/db0/)\n
          \n
          ---
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        I know this isn’t *strictly* piracy related, I apologise, but I think it is tangentally related in that piracy protects you from data theft by avoiding the services the biggest thieves operate. Also, I feel like people here might be very interested in this take.\n
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        Apparently, the “legal” data brokerage industry was worth $319 billion in 2021, and is predicted to be worth $545 billion in 2028.[^1]\n
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        Meanwhile, in 2021 there were only 7.9 billion people in the world[^2] - many of whom do not have internet access or have very little data being traded. If we generously assume 6 billion people have equal volumes of data being traded, that means **each person’s data is worth $53.17 per year on the market.**\n
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        Data is effectively stolen from people. We do not get anything in return for it. We may be offered access to a website free of charge, but that is a separate transaction - it is not appropriate for another transaction to be hidden in the fine print of the terms and conditions. When you buy insurance, the key terms have to be front and centre - you pay x, you get y service. Not “You can have y for free!!! ^(But^ ^also^ ^you^ ^give^ ^us^ ^x^ ^for^ ^free.)^” You’re supposed to be able to compare the value of the things being traded.\n
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        Bearing in mind that this is merely data brokerage, not actual processing or deriving any value from the data, a simple profit margin can be applied. They simply collect the data - easily and at low cost through automated processes - and then sell it. If businesses still took a very generous 30% profit (rather than a ludicrous infinite and pure profit) then **the value of an average person’s data that they are owed is around $40 per year.**\n
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        To run the other numbers to check, the global population in 2028 is predicted to be 8.4 billion - a growth of 6.329%. So our 6 billion population would become 6.38 billion, and with the $545 billion market value an individual’s data would be worth $85.43 on the market, or $65.71 to the individual. The value of user data is predicted to rise.\n
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        Obviously that 6 billion population figure I used is an approximation - a blind one at that. To give a worst case valuation for 2021, if we assume all 7.9 billion people equally have data being traded, then an individual’s data is worth $40.38 on the market, and $31.06 to the user. These are the minimum values, averaged evenly across the entire global population.\n
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        When Google and Facebook started out, data had very little value - there was no market for it. Thus it seemed reasonable to let them just take it, even if maybe it could be worth something. The service they offered was new and novel, a shiny new toy for everyone to play with. They then used this data to become some of the wealthiest businesses in the world. Now, even big players like Microsoft have joined in, in spite of the fact that their main products are paid products.\n
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        One form of bank fraud is where the criminal takes pennies out of multiple accounts, the idea being that people won’t notice such a small debit, and banks might write it off as some kind of error. This has been legislated against and proven illegal - yet these assholes take $40 each from *everyone* and get away with it!\n
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        [^1]:[knowledge-sourcing.com/…/global-data-broker-marke…](https://www.knowledge-sourcing.com/report/global-data-broker-market) Edit: lmao we broke it [web.archive.org/web/…/global-data-broker-market](https://web.archive.org/web/20240107042301/https://www.knowledge-sourcing.com/report/global-data-broker-market) …or did they maybe take it down?? /tinfoil Edit2: it’s back up lol [^2]:[www.populationpyramid.net/world/2021/](https://www.populationpyramid.net/world/2021/)
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        I know this isn’t *strictly* piracy related, I apologise, but I think it is tangentally related in that piracy protects you from data theft by avoiding the services the biggest thieves operate. Also, I feel like people here might be very interested in this take.\n
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        Apparently, the “legal” data brokerage industry was worth $319 billion in 2021, and is predicted to be worth $545 billion in 2028.[^1]\n
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        Meanwhile, in 2021 there were only 7.9 billion people in the world[^2] - many of whom do not have internet access or have very little data being traded. If we generously assume 6 billion people have equal volumes of data being traded, that means **each person’s data is worth $53.17 per year on the market.**\n
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        Data is effectively stolen from people. We do not get anything in return for it. We may be offered access to a website free of charge, but that is a separate transaction - it is not appropriate for another transaction to be hidden in the fine print of the terms and conditions. When you buy insurance, the key terms have to be front and centre - you pay x, you get y service. Not “You can have y for free!!! ^(But^ ^also^ ^you^ ^give^ ^us^ ^x^ ^for^ ^free.)^” You’re supposed to be able to compare the value of the things being traded.\n
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        To run the other numbers to check, the global population in 2028 is predicted to be 8.4 billion - a growth of 6.329%. So our 6 billion population would become 6.38 billion, and with the $545 billion market value an individual’s data would be worth $85.43 on the market, or $65.71 to the individual. The value of user data is predicted to rise.\n
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        Obviously that 6 billion population figure I used is an approximation - a blind one at that. To give a worst case valuation for 2021, if we assume all 7.9 billion people equally have data being traded, then an individual’s data is worth $40.38 on the market, and $31.06 to the user. These are the minimum values, averaged evenly across the entire global population.\n
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        When Google and Facebook started out, data had very little value - there was no market for it. Thus it seemed reasonable to let them just take it, even if maybe it could be worth something. The service they offered was new and novel, a shiny new toy for everyone to play with. They then used this data to become some of the wealthiest businesses in the world. Now, even big players like Microsoft have joined in, in spite of the fact that their main products are paid products.\n
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        One form of bank fraud is where the criminal takes pennies out of multiple accounts, the idea being that people won’t notice such a small debit, and banks might write it off as some kind of error. This has been legislated against and proven illegal - yet these assholes take $40 each from *everyone* and get away with it!\n
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        [^1]:[knowledge-sourcing.com/…/global-data-broker-marke…](https://www.knowledge-sourcing.com/report/global-data-broker-market) Edit: lmao we broke it [web.archive.org/web/…/global-data-broker-market](https://web.archive.org/web/20240107042301/https://www.knowledge-sourcing.com/report/global-data-broker-market) …or did they maybe take it down?? /tinfoil Edit2: it’s back up lol [^2]:[www.populationpyramid.net/world/2021/](https://www.populationpyramid.net/world/2021/)
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          ##### ⚓ Community devoted to in-depth debate on topics concerning digital piracy, ethical problems, and legal advancements.\n
          \n
          ---\n
          \n
          ### Rules • [Full Version](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
          \n
          **1**. Posts must be related to the discussion of digital piracy\n
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          **2**. Don’t request invites, trade, sell, or self-promote\n
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          **3**. Don’t request or link to specific pirated titles, including DMs\n
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          **4**. Don’t submit low-quality posts, be entitled, or harass others\n
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          ---\n
          \n
          [![](https://a.imagem.app/oZoQ1v.png)](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/10901)\n
          ---------------------------------------------------------------------------\n
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          ### Loot, Pillage, & Plunder\n
          \n
          - [📜 Megathread](https://rentry.co/megathread)\n
          - [🪶 FAQ](https://rentry.co/piracy-faq)\n
          - [🪶 ISP Complaints](https://rentry.co/piracy-isp-complaints)\n
          - [🪶 Rules](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
          \n
          ---\n
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          💰 Please help cover server costs.\n
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          [![Ko-Fi](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/4a2f073a-3dd8-492a-942d-72bd929c9f1d.png)](https://ko-fi.com/dbzer0)[![Liberapay](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/eec4659d-39be-4fc9-bc9e-66a96285ea2c.png)](https://liberapay.com/db0/)\n
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        I know this isn’t *strictly* piracy related, I apologise, but I think it is tangentally related in that piracy protects you from data theft by avoiding the services the biggest thieves operate. Also, I feel like people here might be very interested in this take.\n
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        Apparently, the “legal” data brokerage industry was worth $319 billion in 2021, and is predicted to be worth $545 billion in 2028.[^1]\n
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        Meanwhile, in 2021 there were only 7.9 billion people in the world[^2] - many of whom do not have internet access or have very little data being traded. If we generously assume 6 billion people have equal volumes of data being traded, that means **each person’s data is worth $53.17 per year on the market.**\n
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        To run the other numbers to check, the global population in 2028 is predicted to be 8.4 billion - a growth of 6.329%. So our 6 billion population would become 6.38 billion, and with the $545 billion market value an individual’s data would be worth $85.43 on the market, or $65.71 to the individual. The value of user data is predicted to rise.\n
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        When Google and Facebook started out, data had very little value - there was no market for it. Thus it seemed reasonable to let them just take it, even if maybe it could be worth something. The service they offered was new and novel, a shiny new toy for everyone to play with. They then used this data to become some of the wealthiest businesses in the world. Now, even big players like Microsoft have joined in, in spite of the fact that their main products are paid products.\n
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        One form of bank fraud is where the criminal takes pennies out of multiple accounts, the idea being that people won’t notice such a small debit, and banks might write it off as some kind of error. This has been legislated against and proven illegal - yet these assholes take $40 each from *everyone* and get away with it!\n
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        [^1]:[knowledge-sourcing.com/…/global-data-broker-marke…](https://www.knowledge-sourcing.com/report/global-data-broker-market) Edit: lmao we broke it [web.archive.org/web/…/global-data-broker-market](https://web.archive.org/web/20240107042301/https://www.knowledge-sourcing.com/report/global-data-broker-market) …or did they maybe take it down?? /tinfoil Edit2: it’s back up lol [^2]:[www.populationpyramid.net/world/2021/](https://www.populationpyramid.net/world/2021/)
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          ##### ⚓ Community devoted to in-depth debate on topics concerning digital piracy, ethical problems, and legal advancements.\n
          \n
          ---\n
          \n
          ### Rules • [Full Version](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
          \n
          **1**. Posts must be related to the discussion of digital piracy\n
          \n
          **2**. Don’t request invites, trade, sell, or self-promote\n
          \n
          **3**. Don’t request or link to specific pirated titles, including DMs\n
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          **4**. Don’t submit low-quality posts, be entitled, or harass others\n
          \n
          **5**. Don’t post questions already answered. READ THE [WIKI](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/10901)\n
          \n
          ---\n
          \n
          [![](https://a.imagem.app/oZoQ1v.png)](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/10901)\n
          ---------------------------------------------------------------------------\n
          \n
          ### Loot, Pillage, & Plunder\n
          \n
          - [📜 Megathread](https://rentry.co/megathread)\n
          - [🪶 FAQ](https://rentry.co/piracy-faq)\n
          - [🪶 ISP Complaints](https://rentry.co/piracy-isp-complaints)\n
          - [🪶 Rules](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
          \n
          ---\n
          \n
          💰 Please help cover server costs.\n
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          [![Ko-Fi](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/4a2f073a-3dd8-492a-942d-72bd929c9f1d.png)](https://ko-fi.com/dbzer0)[![Liberapay](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/eec4659d-39be-4fc9-bc9e-66a96285ea2c.png)](https://liberapay.com/db0/)\n
          \n
          ---
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        I know this isn’t *strictly* piracy related, I apologise, but I think it is tangentally related in that piracy protects you from data theft by avoiding the services the biggest thieves operate. Also, I feel like people here might be very interested in this take.\n
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        Apparently, the “legal” data brokerage industry was worth $319 billion in 2021, and is predicted to be worth $545 billion in 2028.[^1]\n
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        Meanwhile, in 2021 there were only 7.9 billion people in the world[^2] - many of whom do not have internet access or have very little data being traded. If we generously assume 6 billion people have equal volumes of data being traded, that means **each person’s data is worth $53.17 per year on the market.**\n
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        Data is effectively stolen from people. We do not get anything in return for it. We may be offered access to a website free of charge, but that is a separate transaction - it is not appropriate for another transaction to be hidden in the fine print of the terms and conditions. When you buy insurance, the key terms have to be front and centre - you pay x, you get y service. Not “You can have y for free!!! ^(But^ ^also^ ^you^ ^give^ ^us^ ^x^ ^for^ ^free.)^” You’re supposed to be able to compare the value of the things being traded.\n
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        Bearing in mind that this is merely data brokerage, not actual processing or deriving any value from the data, a simple profit margin can be applied. They simply collect the data - easily and at low cost through automated processes - and then sell it. If businesses still took a very generous 30% profit (rather than a ludicrous infinite and pure profit) then **the value of an average person’s data that they are owed is around $40 per year.**\n
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        To run the other numbers to check, the global population in 2028 is predicted to be 8.4 billion - a growth of 6.329%. So our 6 billion population would become 6.38 billion, and with the $545 billion market value an individual’s data would be worth $85.43 on the market, or $65.71 to the individual. The value of user data is predicted to rise.\n
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        Obviously that 6 billion population figure I used is an approximation - a blind one at that. To give a worst case valuation for 2021, if we assume all 7.9 billion people equally have data being traded, then an individual’s data is worth $40.38 on the market, and $31.06 to the user. These are the minimum values, averaged evenly across the entire global population.\n
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        When Google and Facebook started out, data had very little value - there was no market for it. Thus it seemed reasonable to let them just take it, even if maybe it could be worth something. The service they offered was new and novel, a shiny new toy for everyone to play with. They then used this data to become some of the wealthiest businesses in the world. Now, even big players like Microsoft have joined in, in spite of the fact that their main products are paid products.\n
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        One form of bank fraud is where the criminal takes pennies out of multiple accounts, the idea being that people won’t notice such a small debit, and banks might write it off as some kind of error. This has been legislated against and proven illegal - yet these assholes take $40 each from *everyone* and get away with it!\n
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        [^1]:[knowledge-sourcing.com/…/global-data-broker-marke…](https://www.knowledge-sourcing.com/report/global-data-broker-market) Edit: lmao we broke it [web.archive.org/web/…/global-data-broker-market](https://web.archive.org/web/20240107042301/https://www.knowledge-sourcing.com/report/global-data-broker-market) …or did they maybe take it down?? /tinfoil Edit2: it’s back up lol [^2]:[www.populationpyramid.net/world/2021/](https://www.populationpyramid.net/world/2021/)
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          ##### ⚓ Community devoted to in-depth debate on topics concerning digital piracy, ethical problems, and legal advancements.\n
          \n
          ---\n
          \n
          ### Rules • [Full Version](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
          \n
          **1**. Posts must be related to the discussion of digital piracy\n
          \n
          **2**. Don’t request invites, trade, sell, or self-promote\n
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          **3**. Don’t request or link to specific pirated titles, including DMs\n
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          **4**. Don’t submit low-quality posts, be entitled, or harass others\n
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          **5**. Don’t post questions already answered. READ THE [WIKI](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/10901)\n
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          ---\n
          \n
          [![](https://a.imagem.app/oZoQ1v.png)](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/10901)\n
          ---------------------------------------------------------------------------\n
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          ### Loot, Pillage, & Plunder\n
          \n
          - [📜 Megathread](https://rentry.co/megathread)\n
          - [🪶 FAQ](https://rentry.co/piracy-faq)\n
          - [🪶 ISP Complaints](https://rentry.co/piracy-isp-complaints)\n
          - [🪶 Rules](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
          \n
          ---\n
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          💰 Please help cover server costs.\n
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          [![Ko-Fi](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/4a2f073a-3dd8-492a-942d-72bd929c9f1d.png)](https://ko-fi.com/dbzer0)[![Liberapay](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/eec4659d-39be-4fc9-bc9e-66a96285ea2c.png)](https://liberapay.com/db0/)\n
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          ---
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        I know this isn’t *strictly* piracy related, I apologise, but I think it is tangentally related in that piracy protects you from data theft by avoiding the services the biggest thieves operate. Also, I feel like people here might be very interested in this take.\n
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        Apparently, the “legal” data brokerage industry was worth $319 billion in 2021, and is predicted to be worth $545 billion in 2028.[^1]\n
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        Meanwhile, in 2021 there were only 7.9 billion people in the world[^2] - many of whom do not have internet access or have very little data being traded. If we generously assume 6 billion people have equal volumes of data being traded, that means **each person’s data is worth $53.17 per year on the market.**\n
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        Data is effectively stolen from people. We do not get anything in return for it. We may be offered access to a website free of charge, but that is a separate transaction - it is not appropriate for another transaction to be hidden in the fine print of the terms and conditions. When you buy insurance, the key terms have to be front and centre - you pay x, you get y service. Not “You can have y for free!!! ^(But^ ^also^ ^you^ ^give^ ^us^ ^x^ ^for^ ^free.)^” You’re supposed to be able to compare the value of the things being traded.\n
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        To run the other numbers to check, the global population in 2028 is predicted to be 8.4 billion - a growth of 6.329%. So our 6 billion population would become 6.38 billion, and with the $545 billion market value an individual’s data would be worth $85.43 on the market, or $65.71 to the individual. The value of user data is predicted to rise.\n
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        Obviously that 6 billion population figure I used is an approximation - a blind one at that. To give a worst case valuation for 2021, if we assume all 7.9 billion people equally have data being traded, then an individual’s data is worth $40.38 on the market, and $31.06 to the user. These are the minimum values, averaged evenly across the entire global population.\n
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        When Google and Facebook started out, data had very little value - there was no market for it. Thus it seemed reasonable to let them just take it, even if maybe it could be worth something. The service they offered was new and novel, a shiny new toy for everyone to play with. They then used this data to become some of the wealthiest businesses in the world. Now, even big players like Microsoft have joined in, in spite of the fact that their main products are paid products.\n
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        One form of bank fraud is where the criminal takes pennies out of multiple accounts, the idea being that people won’t notice such a small debit, and banks might write it off as some kind of error. This has been legislated against and proven illegal - yet these assholes take $40 each from *everyone* and get away with it!\n
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        [^1]:[knowledge-sourcing.com/…/global-data-broker-marke…](https://www.knowledge-sourcing.com/report/global-data-broker-market) Edit: lmao we broke it [web.archive.org/web/…/global-data-broker-market](https://web.archive.org/web/20240107042301/https://www.knowledge-sourcing.com/report/global-data-broker-market) …or did they maybe take it down?? /tinfoil Edit2: it’s back up lol [^2]:[www.populationpyramid.net/world/2021/](https://www.populationpyramid.net/world/2021/)
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[]
Component 
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#6559
  +label: "Rounded edges"
  +help: ""
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_GENERAL_ROUNDED_EDGES"
  +defaultValue: false
  +reloadRequired: true
}
settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent 12.0 MiB 0.12 ms
Input props 
[
  "label" => "Infinite scrolling"
  "help" => "Automatically load more content when you reach the bottom of the page."
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_GENERAL_INFINITE_SCROLL"
]
Attributes 
[]
Component 
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#6615
  +label: "Infinite scrolling"
  +help: "Automatically load more content when you reach the bottom of the page."
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_GENERAL_INFINITE_SCROLL"
  +defaultValue: false
  +reloadRequired: true
}
settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent 12.0 MiB 0.12 ms
Input props 
[
  "label" => "Sticky navbar"
  "help" => "The navbar will stick to the top of the page when you scroll down."
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_GENERAL_FIXED_NAVBAR"
]
Attributes 
[]
Component 
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#6674
  +label: "Sticky navbar"
  +help: "The navbar will stick to the top of the page when you scroll down."
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_GENERAL_FIXED_NAVBAR"
  +defaultValue: false
  +reloadRequired: true
}
settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent 12.0 MiB 0.12 ms
Input props 
[
  "label" => "Show top bar"
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_GENERAL_TOPBAR"
]
Attributes 
[]
Component 
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#6730
  +label: "Show top bar"
  +help: ""
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_GENERAL_TOPBAR"
  +defaultValue: false
  +reloadRequired: true
}
settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent 12.0 MiB 0.11 ms
Input props 
[
  "label" => "Turbo mode (experimental)"
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_GENERAL_TURBO"
]
Attributes 
[]
Component 
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#6786
  +label: "Turbo mode (experimental)"
  +help: ""
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_GENERAL_TURBO"
  +defaultValue: false
  +reloadRequired: true
}
user_settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\UserSettingsRowSwitchComponent 12.0 MiB 0.20 ms
Input props 
[
  "label" => "Mark new comments"
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_MARK_NEW_COMMENTS"
]
Attributes 
[]
Component 
App\Twig\Components\UserSettingsRowSwitchComponent {#6844
  +label: "Mark new comments"
  +help: ""
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_MARK_NEW_COMMENTS"
  +defaultValue: false
  +reloadRequired: true
}
settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent 12.0 MiB 0.13 ms
Input props 
[
  "label" => "Show "Support Us" block"
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_GENERAL_SUPPORT_US_BLOCK"
  "defaultValue" => true
]
Attributes 
[]
Component 
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#6907
  +label: "Show "Support Us" block"
  +help: ""
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_GENERAL_SUPPORT_US_BLOCK"
  +defaultValue: true
  +reloadRequired: true
}
user_settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\UserSettingsRowSwitchComponent 12.0 MiB 0.13 ms
Input props 
[
  "label" => "Show subscribed users"
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_SUB_CHANNEL_USERS"
]
Attributes 
[]
Component 
App\Twig\Components\UserSettingsRowSwitchComponent {#6965
  +label: "Show subscribed users"
  +help: ""
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_SUB_CHANNEL_USERS"
  +defaultValue: false
  +reloadRequired: true
}
user_settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\UserSettingsRowSwitchComponent 12.0 MiB 0.13 ms
Input props 
[
  "label" => "Show subscribed magazines"
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_SUB_CHANNEL_MAGAZINES"
]
Attributes 
[]
Component 
App\Twig\Components\UserSettingsRowSwitchComponent {#7021
  +label: "Show subscribed magazines"
  +help: ""
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_SUB_CHANNEL_MAGAZINES"
  +defaultValue: false
  +reloadRequired: true
}
user_settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\UserSettingsRowSwitchComponent 12.0 MiB 0.13 ms
Input props 
[
  "label" => "Show subscribed domains"
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_SUB_CHANNEL_DOMAINS"
]
Attributes 
[]
Component 
App\Twig\Components\UserSettingsRowSwitchComponent {#7077
  +label: "Show subscribed domains"
  +help: ""
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_SUB_CHANNEL_DOMAINS"
  +defaultValue: false
  +reloadRequired: true
}
settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent 12.0 MiB 0.12 ms
Input props 
[
  "label" => "Auto media preview"
  "help" => "Automatically expand media previews."
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_ENTRIES_SHOW_PREVIEW"
]
Attributes 
[]
Component 
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#7133
  +label: "Auto media preview"
  +help: "Automatically expand media previews."
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_ENTRIES_SHOW_PREVIEW"
  +defaultValue: false
  +reloadRequired: true
}
settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent 12.0 MiB 0.11 ms
Input props 
[
  "label" => "Compact view"
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_ENTRIES_COMPACT"
]
Attributes 
[]
Component 
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#7189
  +label: "Compact view"
  +help: ""
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_ENTRIES_COMPACT"
  +defaultValue: false
  +reloadRequired: true
}
settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent 12.0 MiB 0.11 ms
Input props 
[
  "label" => "Show users’ avatars"
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_ENTRIES_SHOW_USERS_AVATARS"
]
Attributes 
[]
Component 
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#7245
  +label: "Show users’ avatars"
  +help: ""
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_ENTRIES_SHOW_USERS_AVATARS"
  +defaultValue: false
  +reloadRequired: true
}
settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent 12.0 MiB 0.11 ms
Input props 
[
  "label" => "Show magazines’ icons"
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_ENTRIES_SHOW_MAGAZINES_ICONS"
]
Attributes 
[]
Component 
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#7301
  +label: "Show magazines’ icons"
  +help: ""
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_ENTRIES_SHOW_MAGAZINES_ICONS"
  +defaultValue: false
  +reloadRequired: true
}
settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent 12.0 MiB 0.12 ms
Input props 
[
  "label" => "Show thumbnails"
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_ENTRIES_SHOW_THUMBNAILS"
  "defaultValue" => true
]
Attributes 
[]
Component 
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#7357
  +label: "Show thumbnails"
  +help: ""
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_ENTRIES_SHOW_THUMBNAILS"
  +defaultValue: true
  +reloadRequired: true
}
settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent 12.0 MiB 0.12 ms
Input props 
[
  "label" => "Auto media preview"
  "help" => "Automatically expand media previews."
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_POSTS_SHOW_PREVIEW"
]
Attributes 
[]
Component 
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#7413
  +label: "Auto media preview"
  +help: "Automatically expand media previews."
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_POSTS_SHOW_PREVIEW"
  +defaultValue: false
  +reloadRequired: true
}
settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent 12.0 MiB 0.12 ms
Input props 
[
  "label" => "Show users’ avatars"
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_POSTS_SHOW_USERS_AVATARS"
  "defaultValue" => true
]
Attributes 
[]
Component 
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#7469
  +label: "Show users’ avatars"
  +help: ""
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_POSTS_SHOW_USERS_AVATARS"
  +defaultValue: true
  +reloadRequired: true
}
settings_row_enum App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowEnumComponent 12.0 MiB 0.16 ms
Input props 
[
  "label" => "Comment reply position"
  "help" => "Display the comment reply form either at the top or bottom of the page. When 'infinite scroll' is enabled the position will always appear at the top."
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_COMMENTS_REPLY_POSITION"
  "values" => [
    [
      "name" => "top"
      "value" => "TOP"
    ]
    [
      "name" => "bottom"
      "value" => "BOTTOM"
    ]
  ]
  "defaultValue" => "TOP"
]
Attributes 
[]
Component 
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowEnumComponent {#7525
  +label: "Comment reply position"
  +help: "Display the comment reply form either at the top or bottom of the page. When 'infinite scroll' is enabled the position will always appear at the top."
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_COMMENTS_REPLY_POSITION"
  +values: [
    [
      "name" => "top"
      "value" => "TOP"
    ]
    [
      "name" => "bottom"
      "value" => "BOTTOM"
    ]
  ]
  +defaultValue: "TOP"
  +reloadRequired: true
}
settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent 12.0 MiB 0.12 ms
Input props 
[
  "label" => "Show Comment Avatars"
  "help" => "Display/hide user avatars when viewing comments on a single thread or post."
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_COMMENTS_SHOW_USER_AVATAR"
  "defaultValue" => true
]
Attributes 
[]
Component 
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#7583
  +label: "Show Comment Avatars"
  +help: "Display/hide user avatars when viewing comments on a single thread or post."
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_COMMENTS_SHOW_USER_AVATAR"
  +defaultValue: true
  +reloadRequired: true
}
date App\Twig\Components\DateComponent 12.0 MiB 0.12 ms
Input props 
[
  "date" => DateTimeImmutable @1729246568 {#273
    date: 2024-10-18 12:16:08.0 +02:00
  }
]
Attributes 
[]
Component 
App\Twig\Components\DateComponent {#7656
  +date: DateTimeImmutable @1729246568 {#273
    date: 2024-10-18 12:16:08.0 +02:00
  }
}
related_magazines App\Twig\Components\RelatedMagazinesComponent 12.0 MiB 1.63 ms
Input props 
[
  "magazine" => null
  "tag" => null
]
Attributes 
[]
Component 
App\Twig\Components\RelatedMagazinesComponent {#7743
  +limit: 4
  +tag: null
  +magazine: null
  +type: "random"
  +title: "random_magazines"
  +refreshedRandom: false
  -repository: App\Repository\MagazineRepository {#2438 …}
  -cache: Symfony\Component\Cache\Adapter\TraceableTagAwareAdapter {#600 …}
  -twig: Twig\Environment {#1252 …}
  -requestStack: Symfony\Component\HttpFoundation\RequestStack {#1328 …}
}
active_users App\Twig\Components\ActiveUsersComponent 12.0 MiB 0.23 ms
Input props 
[
  "magazine" => null
]
Attributes 
[]
Component 
App\Twig\Components\ActiveUsersComponent {#7808
  +magazine: null
  -userRepository: App\Repository\UserRepository {#603 …}
  -cache: Symfony\Component\Cache\Adapter\TraceableTagAwareAdapter {#600 …}
  -twig: Twig\Environment {#1252 …}
  -requestStack: Symfony\Component\HttpFoundation\RequestStack {#1328 …}
}
related_categories App\Twig\Components\RelatedCategoriesComponent 12.0 MiB 1.27 ms
Input props 
[
  "magazine" => null
  "tag" => null
]
Attributes 
[]
Component 
App\Twig\Components\RelatedCategoriesComponent {#7867
  +limit: 4
  +tag: null
  +magazine: null
  +type: "random"
  +title: "random_categories"
  +refreshedRandom: false
  -repository: App\Repository\CategoryRepository {#7868 …}
  -cache: Symfony\Component\Cache\Adapter\TraceableTagAwareAdapter {#600 …}
  -twig: Twig\Environment {#1252 …}
  -requestStack: Symfony\Component\HttpFoundation\RequestStack {#1328 …}
}
related_posts App\Twig\Components\RelatedPostsComponent 12.0 MiB 1.37 ms
Input props 
[
  "magazine" => null
  "tag" => null
]
Attributes 
[]
Component 
App\Twig\Components\RelatedPostsComponent {#7937
  +limit: 4
  +tag: null
  +magazine: null
  +type: "random"
  +post: null
  +title: "random_posts"
  +refreshedRandom: false
  -repository: App\Repository\PostRepository {#1466 …}
  -cache: Symfony\Component\Cache\Adapter\TraceableTagAwareAdapter {#600 …}
  -twig: Twig\Environment {#1252 …}
  -requestStack: Symfony\Component\HttpFoundation\RequestStack {#1328 …}
  -mentionManager: App\Service\MentionManager {#1539 …}
}
related_entries App\Twig\Components\RelatedEntriesComponent 12.0 MiB 1.33 ms
Input props 
[
  "magazine" => null
  "tag" => null
]
Attributes 
[]
Component 
App\Twig\Components\RelatedEntriesComponent {#8006
  +limit: 4
  +tag: null
  +magazine: null
  +type: "random"
  +entry: null
  +title: "random_entries"
  +refreshedRandom: false
  -repository: App\Repository\EntryRepository {#1772 …}
  -cache: Symfony\Component\Cache\Adapter\TraceableTagAwareAdapter {#600 …}
  -twig: Twig\Environment {#1252 …}
  -requestStack: Symfony\Component\HttpFoundation\RequestStack {#1328 …}
  -mentionManager: App\Service\MentionManager {#1539 …}
}
support_us_block App\Twig\Components\SupportUsBlock 12.0 MiB 0.22 ms
Input props 
[]
Attributes 
[]
Component 
App\Twig\Components\SupportUsBlock {#8075
  +subject: ? App\Entity\Contracts\VotableInterface
  +url: ? string
  -twig: Twig\Environment {#1252 …}
  -cache: Symfony\Component\Cache\Adapter\TraceableTagAwareAdapter {#600 …}
  -requestStack: Symfony\Component\HttpFoundation\RequestStack {#1328 …}
  -partnerBlockRepository: App\Repository\PartnerBlockRepository {#8076 …}
}
featured_magazines App\Twig\Components\FeaturedMagazinesComponent 12.0 MiB 0.83 ms
Input props 
[
  "magazine" => null
]
Attributes 
[]
Component 
App\Twig\Components\FeaturedMagazinesComponent {#8168
  +magazine: null
  -twig: Twig\Environment {#1252 …}
  -repository: App\Repository\MagazineRepository {#2438 …}
}