GET https://kbin.spritesserver.nl/u/@desconectado@lemm.ee/active

Response
200 OK
IP
52.15.142.255
Profiled on
Token
2dd951

Security

Token

There is no security token.

Firewall

main Name
Security enabled
Stateless

Configuration

Key Value
provider security.user.provider.concrete.app_user_provider
context main
entry_point App\Security\KbinAuthenticator
user_checker App\Security\UserChecker
access_denied_handler (none)
access_denied_url (none)
authenticators 
[
  "two_factor"
  "remember_me"
  "App\Security\KbinAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\FacebookAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\GoogleAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\GithubAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\KeycloakAuthenticator"
]

Listeners

Listener Duration Response 
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\ChannelListener {#723
  -map: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\AccessMap {#722 …}
  -logger: Monolog\Logger {#783 …}
  -httpPort: 80
  -httpsPort: 443
}
 0.00 ms (none) 
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\ContextListener {#706
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\TokenStorage {#1017 …}
  -sessionKey: "_security_main"
  -logger: Monolog\Logger {#783 …}
  -userProviders: Symfony\Component\DependencyInjection\Argument\RewindableGenerator {#705 …}
  -dispatcher: Symfony\Component\EventDispatcher\Debug\TraceableEventDispatcher {#747 …}
  -registered: false
  -trustResolver: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authentication\AuthenticationTrustResolver {#780 …}
  -sessionTrackerEnabler: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage::enableUsageTracking(): void {#703 …}
}
 0.27 ms (none) 
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\AuthenticatorManagerListener {#584
  -authenticatorManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Authentication\AuthenticatorManager {#595 …}
}
 0.00 ms (none) 
Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Http\Firewall\TwoFactorAccessListener {#582
  -twoFactorFirewallConfig: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\TwoFactor\TwoFactorFirewallConfig {#842 …}
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -twoFactorAccessDecider: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\TwoFactorAccessDecider {#581 …}
}
 0.06 ms (none) 
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\AccessListener {#579
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -accessDecisionManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\TraceableAccessDecisionManager {#937 …}
  -map: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\AccessMap {#722 …}
}
 0.00 ms (none) 
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\LogoutListener {#786
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -options: [
    "csrf_parameter" => "_csrf_token"
    "csrf_token_id" => "logout"
    "logout_path" => "app_logout"
  ]
  -httpUtils: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\HttpUtils {#841 …}
  -csrfTokenManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Csrf\CsrfTokenManager {#1015 …}
  -eventDispatcher: Symfony\Component\EventDispatcher\Debug\TraceableEventDispatcher {#747 …}
}
 0.00 ms (none)

Authenticators

No authenticators have been recorded. Check previous profiles on your authentication endpoint.

Access Decision

affirmative Strategy
# Voter class
1 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\AuthenticatedVoter"
2 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
3 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
4 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\ExpressionVoter"
5 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
6 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
7 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
8 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
9 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
10 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
11 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
12 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
13 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
14 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"

Access decision log

# Result Attributes Object
1 DENIED ROLE_USER 
null
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
2 DENIED moderate 
Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#2135
  +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#2535 …}
  +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#2136 …}
  +image: null
  +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#2821 …}
  +slug: "If-purchasing-isn-t-owning-then-piracy-isn-t-stealing"
  +title: "If purchasing isn’t owning, then piracy isn’t stealing"
  +url: "https://fosstodon.org/@jordan_kendrick/111507438180912593"
  +body: "I am ashamed that I hadn’t reasoned this through given all the rubbish digital services have pulled with “purchases” being lies."
  +type: "link"
  +lang: "en"
  +isOc: false
  +hasEmbed: true
  +commentCount: 154
  +favouriteCount: 1107
  +score: 0
  +isAdult: false
  +sticky: false
  +lastActive: DateTime @1702456674 {#2816
    date: 2023-12-13 09:37:54.0 +01:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +adaAmount: 0
  +tags: null
  +mentions: null
  +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2822 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2832 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2834 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2836 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2838 …}
  +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2840 …}
  +children: [
    2 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#2143
      +user: App\Entity\User {#265 …}
      +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#2135 …2}
      +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#2136 …}
      +image: null
      +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#2137 …}
      +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#2073 …}
      +body: "So salary theft by employers is not really theft. Got it."
      +lang: "en"
      +isAdult: false
      +favouriteCount: 1
      +score: 0
      +lastActive: DateTime @1701633290 {#2338
        date: 2023-12-03 20:54:50.0 +01:00
      }
      +ip: null
      +tags: null
      +mentions: [
        "@maegul@lemmy.ml"
        "@Stuka@lemmy.world"
        "@merc@sh.itjust.works"
      ]
      +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2068 …}
      +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2069 …}
      +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2074 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2071 …}
      +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2070 …}
      +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2048 …}
      -id: 193200
      -bodyTs: "'employ':5 'got':10 'realli':8 'salari':2 'theft':3,9"
      +ranking: 0
      +commentCount: 0
      +upVotes: 0
      +downVotes: 0
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/6931663"
      +editedAt: null
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701633290 {#2159
        date: 2023-12-03 20:54:50.0 +01:00
      }
      +"title": 193200
    }
    1 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#2046
      +user: App\Entity\User {#265 …}
      +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#2135 …2}
      +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#2136 …}
      +image: null
      +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#2047 …}
      +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#2073 …}
      +body: """
        Stealing services doesn’t necessarily have to do with copyright infringement.\n
        \n
        My point is that OP over simplification of theft is not even worth considering, from a legal or personal point of view.
        """
      +lang: "en"
      +isAdult: false
      +favouriteCount: 0
      +score: 0
      +lastActive: DateTime @1701636991 {#2056
        date: 2023-12-03 21:56:31.0 +01:00
      }
      +ip: null
      +tags: null
      +mentions: [
        "@maegul@lemmy.ml"
        "@Stuka@lemmy.world"
        "@merc@sh.itjust.works"
        "@desconectado@lemm.ee"
      ]
      +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2045 …}
      +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2050 …}
      +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2052 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2058 …}
      +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2125 …}
      +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2041 …}
      -id: 193397
      -bodyTs: "'consid':25 'copyright':10 'doesn':3 'even':23 'infring':11 'legal':28 'necessarili':5 'op':16 'person':30 'point':13,31 'servic':2 'simplif':18 'steal':1 'theft':20 'view':33 'worth':24"
      +ranking: 0
      +commentCount: 0
      +upVotes: 0
      +downVotes: 0
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/6933668"
      +editedAt: null
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701636991 {#2059
        date: 2023-12-03 21:56:31.0 +01:00
      }
      +"title": 193397
    }
    0 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#2108
      +user: App\Entity\User {#265 …}
      +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#2135 …2}
      +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#2136 …}
      +image: null
      +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#2111 …}
      +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#2073 …}
      +body: "You were the one who quoted that wage theft is a form or fraud, so I’m not sure what’s your point. Yes, some theft can be fraud… but still theft."
      +lang: "en"
      +isAdult: false
      +favouriteCount: 0
      +score: 0
      +lastActive: DateTime @1701683592 {#2100
        date: 2023-12-04 10:53:12.0 +01:00
      }
      +ip: null
      +tags: null
      +mentions: [
        "@maegul@lemmy.ml"
        "@Stuka@lemmy.world"
        "@merc@sh.itjust.works"
        "@desconectado@lemm.ee"
      ]
      +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2101 …}
      +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2109 …}
      +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2106 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2107 …}
      +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2124 …}
      +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2118 …}
      -id: 195006
      -bodyTs: "'form':12 'fraud':14,29 'm':17 'one':4 'point':23 'quot':6 'still':31 'sure':19 'theft':9,26,32 'wage':8 'yes':24"
      +ranking: 0
      +commentCount: 0
      +upVotes: 0
      +downVotes: 0
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/6961909"
      +editedAt: DateTimeImmutable @1702881891 {#2099
        date: 2023-12-18 07:44:51.0 +01:00
      }
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701683592 {#2105
        date: 2023-12-04 10:53:12.0 +01:00
      }
      +"title": 195006
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  -titleTs: "'isn':3,8 'own':5 'piraci':7 'purchas':2 'steal':10"
  -bodyTs: "'asham':3 'digit':15 'given':11 'hadn':6 'lie':22 'pull':18 'purchas':20 'reason':8 'rubbish':14 'servic':16"
  +cross: false
  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +ranking: 1701556801
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://lemmy.ml/post/8752666"
  +editedAt: null
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701470401 {#2734
    date: 2023-12-01 23:40:01.0 +01:00
  }
  +__isInitialized__: true
   …2
}
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
3 DENIED edit 
Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#2135
  +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#2535 …}
  +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#2136 …}
  +image: null
  +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#2821 …}
  +slug: "If-purchasing-isn-t-owning-then-piracy-isn-t-stealing"
  +title: "If purchasing isn’t owning, then piracy isn’t stealing"
  +url: "https://fosstodon.org/@jordan_kendrick/111507438180912593"
  +body: "I am ashamed that I hadn’t reasoned this through given all the rubbish digital services have pulled with “purchases” being lies."
  +type: "link"
  +lang: "en"
  +isOc: false
  +hasEmbed: true
  +commentCount: 154
  +favouriteCount: 1107
  +score: 0
  +isAdult: false
  +sticky: false
  +lastActive: DateTime @1702456674 {#2816
    date: 2023-12-13 09:37:54.0 +01:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +adaAmount: 0
  +tags: null
  +mentions: null
  +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2822 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2832 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2834 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2836 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2838 …}
  +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2840 …}
  +children: [
    2 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#2143
      +user: App\Entity\User {#265 …}
      +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#2135 …2}
      +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#2136 …}
      +image: null
      +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#2137 …}
      +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#2073 …}
      +body: "So salary theft by employers is not really theft. Got it."
      +lang: "en"
      +isAdult: false
      +favouriteCount: 1
      +score: 0
      +lastActive: DateTime @1701633290 {#2338
        date: 2023-12-03 20:54:50.0 +01:00
      }
      +ip: null
      +tags: null
      +mentions: [
        "@maegul@lemmy.ml"
        "@Stuka@lemmy.world"
        "@merc@sh.itjust.works"
      ]
      +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2068 …}
      +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2069 …}
      +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2074 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2071 …}
      +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2070 …}
      +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2048 …}
      -id: 193200
      -bodyTs: "'employ':5 'got':10 'realli':8 'salari':2 'theft':3,9"
      +ranking: 0
      +commentCount: 0
      +upVotes: 0
      +downVotes: 0
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/6931663"
      +editedAt: null
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701633290 {#2159
        date: 2023-12-03 20:54:50.0 +01:00
      }
      +"title": 193200
    }
    1 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#2046
      +user: App\Entity\User {#265 …}
      +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#2135 …2}
      +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#2136 …}
      +image: null
      +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#2047 …}
      +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#2073 …}
      +body: """
        Stealing services doesn’t necessarily have to do with copyright infringement.\n
        \n
        My point is that OP over simplification of theft is not even worth considering, from a legal or personal point of view.
        """
      +lang: "en"
      +isAdult: false
      +favouriteCount: 0
      +score: 0
      +lastActive: DateTime @1701636991 {#2056
        date: 2023-12-03 21:56:31.0 +01:00
      }
      +ip: null
      +tags: null
      +mentions: [
        "@maegul@lemmy.ml"
        "@Stuka@lemmy.world"
        "@merc@sh.itjust.works"
        "@desconectado@lemm.ee"
      ]
      +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2045 …}
      +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2050 …}
      +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2052 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2058 …}
      +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2125 …}
      +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2041 …}
      -id: 193397
      -bodyTs: "'consid':25 'copyright':10 'doesn':3 'even':23 'infring':11 'legal':28 'necessarili':5 'op':16 'person':30 'point':13,31 'servic':2 'simplif':18 'steal':1 'theft':20 'view':33 'worth':24"
      +ranking: 0
      +commentCount: 0
      +upVotes: 0
      +downVotes: 0
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/6933668"
      +editedAt: null
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701636991 {#2059
        date: 2023-12-03 21:56:31.0 +01:00
      }
      +"title": 193397
    }
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      +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#2136 …}
      +image: null
      +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#2111 …}
      +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#2073 …}
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      +lang: "en"
      +isAdult: false
      +favouriteCount: 0
      +score: 0
      +lastActive: DateTime @1701683592 {#2100
        date: 2023-12-04 10:53:12.0 +01:00
      }
      +ip: null
      +tags: null
      +mentions: [
        "@maegul@lemmy.ml"
        "@Stuka@lemmy.world"
        "@merc@sh.itjust.works"
        "@desconectado@lemm.ee"
      ]
      +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2101 …}
      +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2109 …}
      +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2106 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2107 …}
      +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2124 …}
      +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2118 …}
      -id: 195006
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      +ranking: 0
      +commentCount: 0
      +upVotes: 0
      +downVotes: 0
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/6961909"
      +editedAt: DateTimeImmutable @1702881891 {#2099
        date: 2023-12-18 07:44:51.0 +01:00
      }
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701683592 {#2105
        date: 2023-12-04 10:53:12.0 +01:00
      }
      +"title": 195006
    }
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  -id: 19211
  -titleTs: "'isn':3,8 'own':5 'piraci':7 'purchas':2 'steal':10"
  -bodyTs: "'asham':3 'digit':15 'given':11 'hadn':6 'lie':22 'pull':18 'purchas':20 'reason':8 'rubbish':14 'servic':16"
  +cross: false
  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +ranking: 1701556801
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://lemmy.ml/post/8752666"
  +editedAt: null
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701470401 {#2734
    date: 2023-12-01 23:40:01.0 +01:00
  }
  +__isInitialized__: true
   …2
}
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
4 DENIED moderate 
Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#2135
  +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#2535 …}
  +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#2136 …}
  +image: null
  +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#2821 …}
  +slug: "If-purchasing-isn-t-owning-then-piracy-isn-t-stealing"
  +title: "If purchasing isn’t owning, then piracy isn’t stealing"
  +url: "https://fosstodon.org/@jordan_kendrick/111507438180912593"
  +body: "I am ashamed that I hadn’t reasoned this through given all the rubbish digital services have pulled with “purchases” being lies."
  +type: "link"
  +lang: "en"
  +isOc: false
  +hasEmbed: true
  +commentCount: 154
  +favouriteCount: 1107
  +score: 0
  +isAdult: false
  +sticky: false
  +lastActive: DateTime @1702456674 {#2816
    date: 2023-12-13 09:37:54.0 +01:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +adaAmount: 0
  +tags: null
  +mentions: null
  +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2822 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2832 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2834 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2836 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2838 …}
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        But can it run proprietary software used in the industry? From Excel to Photoshop, if you are in a collaborative professional environment, you can’t run away from those, and don’t tell me you can use the alternatives in Linux, because no, you can’t. This is not linux fault, but it’s still an issue you can’t handwave.\n
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        But can it run proprietary software used in the industry? From Excel to Photoshop, if you are in a collaborative professional environment, you can’t run away from those, and don’t tell me you can use the alternatives in Linux, because no, you can’t. This is not linux fault, but it’s still an issue you can’t handwave.\n
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        I wish Wine worked well enough to use Excel. We are not talking about adding up numbers in a cell. Once you include macros, or a reference manager in Word, Wine is not good enough. The same can be said about propietary software, like autocad, or software used to control equipment. Also, good luck convincing a regular user to get familiar with wine.\n
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        But can it run proprietary software used in the industry? From Excel to Photoshop, if you are in a collaborative professional environment, you can’t run away from those, and don’t tell me you can use the alternatives in Linux, because no, you can’t. This is not linux fault, but it’s still an issue you can’t handwave.\n
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        I wish Wine worked well enough to use Excel. We are not talking about adding up numbers in a cell. Once you include macros, or a reference manager in Word, Wine is not good enough. The same can be said about propietary software, like autocad, or software used to control equipment. Also, good luck convincing a regular user to get familiar with wine.\n
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    But can it run proprietary software used in the industry? From Excel to Photoshop, if you are in a collaborative professional environment, you can’t run away from those, and don’t tell me you can use the alternatives in Linux, because no, you can’t. This is not linux fault, but it’s still an issue you can’t handwave.\n
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          I wish Wine worked well enough to use Excel. We are not talking about adding up numbers in a cell. Once you include macros, or a reference manager in Word, Wine is not good enough. The same can be said about propietary software, like autocad, or software used to control equipment. Also, good luck convincing a regular user to get familiar with wine.\n
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          Read my other replies. 1 and 2 don’t really work, the performance of using wine, or the alternatives, is just not there, if you do amateur work, maybe that’s fine, but for professional collaborative work, good luck using freecad instead of autocad.\n
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          I wish Wine worked well enough to use Excel. We are not talking about adding up numbers in a cell. Once you include macros, or a reference manager in Word, Wine is not good enough. The same can be said about propietary software, like autocad, or software used to control equipment. Also, good luck convincing a regular user to get familiar with wine.\n
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          Read my other replies. 1 and 2 don’t really work, the performance of using wine, or the alternatives, is just not there, if you do amateur work, maybe that’s fine, but for professional collaborative work, good luck using freecad instead of autocad.\n
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    But can it run proprietary software used in the industry? From Excel to Photoshop, if you are in a collaborative professional environment, you can’t run away from those, and don’t tell me you can use the alternatives in Linux, because no, you can’t. This is not linux fault, but it’s still an issue you can’t handwave.\n
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          But can it run proprietary software used in the industry? From Excel to Photoshop, if you are in a collaborative professional environment, you can’t run away from those, and don’t tell me you can use the alternatives in Linux, because no, you can’t. This is not linux fault, but it’s still an issue you can’t handwave.\n
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          Read my other replies. 1 and 2 don’t really work, the performance of using wine, or the alternatives, is just not there, if you do amateur work, maybe that’s fine, but for professional collaborative work, good luck using freecad instead of autocad.\n
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    I wish Wine worked well enough to use Excel. We are not talking about adding up numbers in a cell. Once you include macros, or a reference manager in Word, Wine is not good enough. The same can be said about propietary software, like autocad, or software used to control equipment. Also, good luck convincing a regular user to get familiar with wine.\n
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          Read my other replies. 1 and 2 don’t really work, the performance of using wine, or the alternatives, is just not there, if you do amateur work, maybe that’s fine, but for professional collaborative work, good luck using freecad instead of autocad.\n
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    I wish Wine worked well enough to use Excel. We are not talking about adding up numbers in a cell. Once you include macros, or a reference manager in Word, Wine is not good enough. The same can be said about propietary software, like autocad, or software used to control equipment. Also, good luck convincing a regular user to get familiar with wine.\n
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          But can it run proprietary software used in the industry? From Excel to Photoshop, if you are in a collaborative professional environment, you can’t run away from those, and don’t tell me you can use the alternatives in Linux, because no, you can’t. This is not linux fault, but it’s still an issue you can’t handwave.\n
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          But can it run proprietary software used in the industry? From Excel to Photoshop, if you are in a collaborative professional environment, you can’t run away from those, and don’t tell me you can use the alternatives in Linux, because no, you can’t. This is not linux fault, but it’s still an issue you can’t handwave.\n
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          I wish Wine worked well enough to use Excel. We are not talking about adding up numbers in a cell. Once you include macros, or a reference manager in Word, Wine is not good enough. The same can be said about propietary software, like autocad, or software used to control equipment. Also, good luck convincing a regular user to get familiar with wine.\n
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          Read my other replies. 1 and 2 don’t really work, the performance of using wine, or the alternatives, is just not there, if you do amateur work, maybe that’s fine, but for professional collaborative work, good luck using freecad instead of autocad.\n
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          But can it run proprietary software used in the industry? From Excel to Photoshop, if you are in a collaborative professional environment, you can’t run away from those, and don’t tell me you can use the alternatives in Linux, because no, you can’t. This is not linux fault, but it’s still an issue you can’t handwave.\n
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          But can it run proprietary software used in the industry? From Excel to Photoshop, if you are in a collaborative professional environment, you can’t run away from those, and don’t tell me you can use the alternatives in Linux, because no, you can’t. This is not linux fault, but it’s still an issue you can’t handwave.\n
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          I wish Wine worked well enough to use Excel. We are not talking about adding up numbers in a cell. Once you include macros, or a reference manager in Word, Wine is not good enough. The same can be said about propietary software, like autocad, or software used to control equipment. Also, good luck convincing a regular user to get familiar with wine.\n
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          Read my other replies. 1 and 2 don’t really work, the performance of using wine, or the alternatives, is just not there, if you do amateur work, maybe that’s fine, but for professional collaborative work, good luck using freecad instead of autocad.\n
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          But can it run proprietary software used in the industry? From Excel to Photoshop, if you are in a collaborative professional environment, you can’t run away from those, and don’t tell me you can use the alternatives in Linux, because no, you can’t. This is not linux fault, but it’s still an issue you can’t handwave.\n
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          I wish Wine worked well enough to use Excel. We are not talking about adding up numbers in a cell. Once you include macros, or a reference manager in Word, Wine is not good enough. The same can be said about propietary software, like autocad, or software used to control equipment. Also, good luck convincing a regular user to get familiar with wine.\n
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          Read my other replies. 1 and 2 don’t really work, the performance of using wine, or the alternatives, is just not there, if you do amateur work, maybe that’s fine, but for professional collaborative work, good luck using freecad instead of autocad.\n
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          But can it run proprietary software used in the industry? From Excel to Photoshop, if you are in a collaborative professional environment, you can’t run away from those, and don’t tell me you can use the alternatives in Linux, because no, you can’t. This is not linux fault, but it’s still an issue you can’t handwave.\n
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          I wish Wine worked well enough to use Excel. We are not talking about adding up numbers in a cell. Once you include macros, or a reference manager in Word, Wine is not good enough. The same can be said about propietary software, like autocad, or software used to control equipment. Also, good luck convincing a regular user to get familiar with wine.\n
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          Read my other replies. 1 and 2 don’t really work, the performance of using wine, or the alternatives, is just not there, if you do amateur work, maybe that’s fine, but for professional collaborative work, good luck using freecad instead of autocad.\n
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          But can it run proprietary software used in the industry? From Excel to Photoshop, if you are in a collaborative professional environment, you can’t run away from those, and don’t tell me you can use the alternatives in Linux, because no, you can’t. This is not linux fault, but it’s still an issue you can’t handwave.\n
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          I wish Wine worked well enough to use Excel. We are not talking about adding up numbers in a cell. Once you include macros, or a reference manager in Word, Wine is not good enough. The same can be said about propietary software, like autocad, or software used to control equipment. Also, good luck convincing a regular user to get familiar with wine.\n
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          Read my other replies. 1 and 2 don’t really work, the performance of using wine, or the alternatives, is just not there, if you do amateur work, maybe that’s fine, but for professional collaborative work, good luck using freecad instead of autocad.\n
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          But can it run proprietary software used in the industry? From Excel to Photoshop, if you are in a collaborative professional environment, you can’t run away from those, and don’t tell me you can use the alternatives in Linux, because no, you can’t. This is not linux fault, but it’s still an issue you can’t handwave.\n
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          I wish Wine worked well enough to use Excel. We are not talking about adding up numbers in a cell. Once you include macros, or a reference manager in Word, Wine is not good enough. The same can be said about propietary software, like autocad, or software used to control equipment. Also, good luck convincing a regular user to get familiar with wine.\n
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          Read my other replies. 1 and 2 don’t really work, the performance of using wine, or the alternatives, is just not there, if you do amateur work, maybe that’s fine, but for professional collaborative work, good luck using freecad instead of autocad.\n
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          But can it run proprietary software used in the industry? From Excel to Photoshop, if you are in a collaborative professional environment, you can’t run away from those, and don’t tell me you can use the alternatives in Linux, because no, you can’t. This is not linux fault, but it’s still an issue you can’t handwave.\n
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          I wish Wine worked well enough to use Excel. We are not talking about adding up numbers in a cell. Once you include macros, or a reference manager in Word, Wine is not good enough. The same can be said about propietary software, like autocad, or software used to control equipment. Also, good luck convincing a regular user to get familiar with wine.\n
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          But can it run proprietary software used in the industry? From Excel to Photoshop, if you are in a collaborative professional environment, you can’t run away from those, and don’t tell me you can use the alternatives in Linux, because no, you can’t. This is not linux fault, but it’s still an issue you can’t handwave.\n
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          I wish Wine worked well enough to use Excel. We are not talking about adding up numbers in a cell. Once you include macros, or a reference manager in Word, Wine is not good enough. The same can be said about propietary software, like autocad, or software used to control equipment. Also, good luck convincing a regular user to get familiar with wine.\n
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          Read my other replies. 1 and 2 don’t really work, the performance of using wine, or the alternatives, is just not there, if you do amateur work, maybe that’s fine, but for professional collaborative work, good luck using freecad instead of autocad.\n
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          But can it run proprietary software used in the industry? From Excel to Photoshop, if you are in a collaborative professional environment, you can’t run away from those, and don’t tell me you can use the alternatives in Linux, because no, you can’t. This is not linux fault, but it’s still an issue you can’t handwave.\n
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          I wish Wine worked well enough to use Excel. We are not talking about adding up numbers in a cell. Once you include macros, or a reference manager in Word, Wine is not good enough. The same can be said about propietary software, like autocad, or software used to control equipment. Also, good luck convincing a regular user to get familiar with wine.\n
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    Read my other replies. 1 and 2 don’t really work, the performance of using wine, or the alternatives, is just not there, if you do amateur work, maybe that’s fine, but for professional collaborative work, good luck using freecad instead of autocad.\n
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          But can it run proprietary software used in the industry? From Excel to Photoshop, if you are in a collaborative professional environment, you can’t run away from those, and don’t tell me you can use the alternatives in Linux, because no, you can’t. This is not linux fault, but it’s still an issue you can’t handwave.\n
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          I wish Wine worked well enough to use Excel. We are not talking about adding up numbers in a cell. Once you include macros, or a reference manager in Word, Wine is not good enough. The same can be said about propietary software, like autocad, or software used to control equipment. Also, good luck convincing a regular user to get familiar with wine.\n
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    Read my other replies. 1 and 2 don’t really work, the performance of using wine, or the alternatives, is just not there, if you do amateur work, maybe that’s fine, but for professional collaborative work, good luck using freecad instead of autocad.\n
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          But can it run proprietary software used in the industry? From Excel to Photoshop, if you are in a collaborative professional environment, you can’t run away from those, and don’t tell me you can use the alternatives in Linux, because no, you can’t. This is not linux fault, but it’s still an issue you can’t handwave.\n
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          I wish Wine worked well enough to use Excel. We are not talking about adding up numbers in a cell. Once you include macros, or a reference manager in Word, Wine is not good enough. The same can be said about propietary software, like autocad, or software used to control equipment. Also, good luck convincing a regular user to get familiar with wine.\n
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    Read my other replies. 1 and 2 don’t really work, the performance of using wine, or the alternatives, is just not there, if you do amateur work, maybe that’s fine, but for professional collaborative work, good luck using freecad instead of autocad.\n
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          But can it run proprietary software used in the industry? From Excel to Photoshop, if you are in a collaborative professional environment, you can’t run away from those, and don’t tell me you can use the alternatives in Linux, because no, you can’t. This is not linux fault, but it’s still an issue you can’t handwave.\n
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          I wish Wine worked well enough to use Excel. We are not talking about adding up numbers in a cell. Once you include macros, or a reference manager in Word, Wine is not good enough. The same can be said about propietary software, like autocad, or software used to control equipment. Also, good luck convincing a regular user to get familiar with wine.\n
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          But can it run proprietary software used in the industry? From Excel to Photoshop, if you are in a collaborative professional environment, you can’t run away from those, and don’t tell me you can use the alternatives in Linux, because no, you can’t. This is not linux fault, but it’s still an issue you can’t handwave.\n
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          I wish Wine worked well enough to use Excel. We are not talking about adding up numbers in a cell. Once you include macros, or a reference manager in Word, Wine is not good enough. The same can be said about propietary software, like autocad, or software used to control equipment. Also, good luck convincing a regular user to get familiar with wine.\n
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          Read my other replies. 1 and 2 don’t really work, the performance of using wine, or the alternatives, is just not there, if you do amateur work, maybe that’s fine, but for professional collaborative work, good luck using freecad instead of autocad.\n
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          I wish Wine worked well enough to use Excel. We are not talking about adding up numbers in a cell. Once you include macros, or a reference manager in Word, Wine is not good enough. The same can be said about propietary software, like autocad, or software used to control equipment. Also, good luck convincing a regular user to get familiar with wine.\n
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          WPS is great for simple files. Again, not good enough for complex files, especially if it is a corporate collaboration environment. I have lost count on the amount of ppt files that didn’t display well when it used WPS.\n
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          Every other year I try all the alternatives you mention, hoping they got better, and I always come back to use a dual boot or a virtual machine, which is not a thing your regular user wants to do.
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          Read my other replies. 1 and 2 don’t really work, the performance of using wine, or the alternatives, is just not there, if you do amateur work, maybe that’s fine, but for professional collaborative work, good luck using freecad instead of autocad.\n
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