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> A governing board is supposed to slow down rash decisions, not generate them.\n
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I mean… what would it even mean to have equity in a non-profit?\n
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I think it brings up a very interesting test case for how this particular kind of ownership structure can fail. In another thread, it strikes the difference between authority and power, which I think was very clearly made here.\n
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That all being said, it seems like things have taken a turn for the worse, and if anything, this board has set the mission of a truly open AI world even further back. There seem to be some real Luddites on the board who seem to think they’ll some how be able to cram Pandora back in the box after it has well escaped control. If anything, the should swing the gate wide and at least open source the *everything else* so as to prevent Microsoft from having a complete monopoly on the future of AI (how things seem to be shaping up).
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