GET https://kbin.spritesserver.nl/u/@BearOfaTime@lemm.ee/top?p=3

Response
200 OK
IP
18.191.62.45
Profiled on
Token
2f9a9f

Security

Token

There is no security token.

Firewall

main Name
Security enabled
Stateless

Configuration

Key Value
provider security.user.provider.concrete.app_user_provider
context main
entry_point App\Security\KbinAuthenticator
user_checker App\Security\UserChecker
access_denied_handler (none)
access_denied_url (none)
authenticators 
[
  "two_factor"
  "remember_me"
  "App\Security\KbinAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\FacebookAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\GoogleAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\GithubAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\KeycloakAuthenticator"
]

Listeners

Listener Duration Response 
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\ChannelListener {#723
  -map: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\AccessMap {#722 …}
  -logger: Monolog\Logger {#783 …}
  -httpPort: 80
  -httpsPort: 443
}
 0.00 ms (none) 
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\ContextListener {#706
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\TokenStorage {#1017 …}
  -sessionKey: "_security_main"
  -logger: Monolog\Logger {#783 …}
  -userProviders: Symfony\Component\DependencyInjection\Argument\RewindableGenerator {#705 …}
  -dispatcher: Symfony\Component\EventDispatcher\Debug\TraceableEventDispatcher {#747 …}
  -registered: false
  -trustResolver: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authentication\AuthenticationTrustResolver {#780 …}
  -sessionTrackerEnabler: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage::enableUsageTracking(): void {#703 …}
}
 0.78 ms (none) 
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\AuthenticatorManagerListener {#584
  -authenticatorManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Authentication\AuthenticatorManager {#595 …}
}
 0.00 ms (none) 
Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Http\Firewall\TwoFactorAccessListener {#582
  -twoFactorFirewallConfig: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\TwoFactor\TwoFactorFirewallConfig {#842 …}
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -twoFactorAccessDecider: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\TwoFactorAccessDecider {#581 …}
}
 0.04 ms (none) 
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\AccessListener {#579
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -accessDecisionManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\TraceableAccessDecisionManager {#937 …}
  -map: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\AccessMap {#722 …}
}
 0.00 ms (none) 
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\LogoutListener {#786
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -options: [
    "csrf_parameter" => "_csrf_token"
    "csrf_token_id" => "logout"
    "logout_path" => "app_logout"
  ]
  -httpUtils: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\HttpUtils {#841 …}
  -csrfTokenManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Csrf\CsrfTokenManager {#1015 …}
  -eventDispatcher: Symfony\Component\EventDispatcher\Debug\TraceableEventDispatcher {#747 …}
}
 0.00 ms (none)

Authenticators

No authenticators have been recorded. Check previous profiles on your authentication endpoint.

Access Decision

affirmative Strategy
# Voter class
1 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\AuthenticatedVoter"
2 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
3 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
4 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\ExpressionVoter"
5 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
6 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
7 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
8 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
9 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
10 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
11 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
12 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
13 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
14 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"

Access decision log

# Result Attributes Object
1 DENIED ROLE_USER 
null
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
2 DENIED moderate 
Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#2201
  +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#2994 …}
  +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#2030 …}
  +image: null
  +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#2803 …}
  +slug: "Best-Method-for-Archiving-Articles"
  +title: "Best Method for Archiving Articles?"
  +url: null
  +body: "Sorry this feels like it should be obvious but I’m researching the best method to archive links mostly for personal use and potentially sending articles to my e-reader via Pocket which requires a URL."
  +type: "article"
  +lang: "en"
  +isOc: false
  +hasEmbed: false
  +commentCount: 11
  +favouriteCount: 52
  +score: 0
  +isAdult: false
  +sticky: false
  +lastActive: DateTime @1712577954 {#3031
    date: 2024-04-08 14:05:54.0 +02:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +adaAmount: 0
  +tags: null
  +mentions: null
  +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3036 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3039 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3041 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3043 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3045 …}
  +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3047 …}
  +children: [
    App\Entity\EntryComment {#2202
      +user: App\Entity\User {#265 …}
      +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#2201 …2}
      +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#2030 …}
      +image: null
      +parent: null
      +root: null
      +body: """
        This may be a good question for Self-hosting.\n
        \n
        I use a combo of OneNote (it’s pretty easy to put entire pages in OneNote, even from a mobile device) and Joplin. Obsidian works well too.\n
        \n
        What’s nice is all of them can take the full page, so it looks nearly identical to the website.\n
        \n
        Alternatively you can use reader mode in the browser, and send that to OneNote/Joplin, or send the link to [archive.ph](http://archive.ph) and save the archived version.\n
        \n
        Saving the full page enables search to work.\n
        \n
        Edit: forgot about your pocket url issue. Well both Joplin and OneNote save the url with the page info. Not sure how well Pocket utilizes pages archived on archive.ph. May need some testing.
        """
      +lang: "en"
      +isAdult: false
      +favouriteCount: 7
      +score: 0
      +lastActive: DateTime @1704358010 {#2197
        date: 2024-01-04 09:46:50.0 +01:00
      }
      +ip: null
      +tags: null
      +mentions: [
        "@bo5on@lemmy.world"
        "@bo5on@lemmy.world"
        "@bo5on@lemmy.world"
      ]
      +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2210 …}
      +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2207 …}
      +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2208 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2204 …}
      +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2211 …}
      +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2266 …}
      -id: 279018
      -bodyTs: "'altern':58 'archiv':82,118 'archive.ph':77,78,120 'browser':66 'combo':14 'devic':31 'easi':20 'edit':92 'enabl':88 'entir':23 'even':27 'forgot':93 'full':48,86 'good':5 'host':10 'ident':54 'info':110 'issu':98 'joplin':33,101 'link':75 'look':52 'may':2,121 'mobil':30 'mode':63 'near':53 'need':122 'nice':40 'obsidian':34 'onenot':16,26,103 'onenote/joplin':71 'page':24,49,87,109,117 'pocket':96,115 'pretti':19 'put':22 'question':6 'reader':62 'save':80,84,104 'search':89 'self':9 'self-host':8 'send':68,73 'sure':112 'take':46 'test':124 'url':97,106 'use':12,61 'util':116 'version':83 'websit':57 'well':36,99,114 'work':35,91"
      +ranking: 0
      +commentCount: 0
      +upVotes: 0
      +downVotes: 0
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7864693"
      +editedAt: DateTimeImmutable @1719168928 {#2205
        date: 2024-06-23 20:55:28.0 +02:00
      }
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1704358010 {#2206
        date: 2024-01-04 09:46:50.0 +01:00
      }
      +"title": 279018
    }
  ]
  -id: 27116
  -titleTs: "'archiv':4 'articl':5 'best':1 'method':2"
  -bodyTs: "'archiv':17 'articl':26 'best':14 'e':30 'e-read':29 'feel':3 'like':4 'link':18 'm':11 'method':15 'most':19 'obvious':8 'person':21 'pocket':33 'potenti':24 'reader':31 'requir':35 'research':12 'send':25 'sorri':1 'url':37 'use':22 'via':32"
  +cross: false
  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +ranking: 1704440511
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://lemmy.world/post/10298267"
  +editedAt: null
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1704354111 {#3017
    date: 2024-01-04 08:41:51.0 +01:00
  }
  +__isInitialized__: true
   …2
}
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
3 DENIED edit 
Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#2201
  +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#2994 …}
  +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#2030 …}
  +image: null
  +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#2803 …}
  +slug: "Best-Method-for-Archiving-Articles"
  +title: "Best Method for Archiving Articles?"
  +url: null
  +body: "Sorry this feels like it should be obvious but I’m researching the best method to archive links mostly for personal use and potentially sending articles to my e-reader via Pocket which requires a URL."
  +type: "article"
  +lang: "en"
  +isOc: false
  +hasEmbed: false
  +commentCount: 11
  +favouriteCount: 52
  +score: 0
  +isAdult: false
  +sticky: false
  +lastActive: DateTime @1712577954 {#3031
    date: 2024-04-08 14:05:54.0 +02:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +adaAmount: 0
  +tags: null
  +mentions: null
  +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3036 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3039 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3041 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3043 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3045 …}
  +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3047 …}
  +children: [
    App\Entity\EntryComment {#2202
      +user: App\Entity\User {#265 …}
      +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#2201 …2}
      +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#2030 …}
      +image: null
      +parent: null
      +root: null
      +body: """
        This may be a good question for Self-hosting.\n
        \n
        I use a combo of OneNote (it’s pretty easy to put entire pages in OneNote, even from a mobile device) and Joplin. Obsidian works well too.\n
        \n
        What’s nice is all of them can take the full page, so it looks nearly identical to the website.\n
        \n
        Alternatively you can use reader mode in the browser, and send that to OneNote/Joplin, or send the link to [archive.ph](http://archive.ph) and save the archived version.\n
        \n
        Saving the full page enables search to work.\n
        \n
        Edit: forgot about your pocket url issue. Well both Joplin and OneNote save the url with the page info. Not sure how well Pocket utilizes pages archived on archive.ph. May need some testing.
        """
      +lang: "en"
      +isAdult: false
      +favouriteCount: 7
      +score: 0
      +lastActive: DateTime @1704358010 {#2197
        date: 2024-01-04 09:46:50.0 +01:00
      }
      +ip: null
      +tags: null
      +mentions: [
        "@bo5on@lemmy.world"
        "@bo5on@lemmy.world"
        "@bo5on@lemmy.world"
      ]
      +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2210 …}
      +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2207 …}
      +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2208 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2204 …}
      +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2211 …}
      +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2266 …}
      -id: 279018
      -bodyTs: "'altern':58 'archiv':82,118 'archive.ph':77,78,120 'browser':66 'combo':14 'devic':31 'easi':20 'edit':92 'enabl':88 'entir':23 'even':27 'forgot':93 'full':48,86 'good':5 'host':10 'ident':54 'info':110 'issu':98 'joplin':33,101 'link':75 'look':52 'may':2,121 'mobil':30 'mode':63 'near':53 'need':122 'nice':40 'obsidian':34 'onenot':16,26,103 'onenote/joplin':71 'page':24,49,87,109,117 'pocket':96,115 'pretti':19 'put':22 'question':6 'reader':62 'save':80,84,104 'search':89 'self':9 'self-host':8 'send':68,73 'sure':112 'take':46 'test':124 'url':97,106 'use':12,61 'util':116 'version':83 'websit':57 'well':36,99,114 'work':35,91"
      +ranking: 0
      +commentCount: 0
      +upVotes: 0
      +downVotes: 0
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7864693"
      +editedAt: DateTimeImmutable @1719168928 {#2205
        date: 2024-06-23 20:55:28.0 +02:00
      }
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1704358010 {#2206
        date: 2024-01-04 09:46:50.0 +01:00
      }
      +"title": 279018
    }
  ]
  -id: 27116
  -titleTs: "'archiv':4 'articl':5 'best':1 'method':2"
  -bodyTs: "'archiv':17 'articl':26 'best':14 'e':30 'e-read':29 'feel':3 'like':4 'link':18 'm':11 'method':15 'most':19 'obvious':8 'person':21 'pocket':33 'potenti':24 'reader':31 'requir':35 'research':12 'send':25 'sorri':1 'url':37 'use':22 'via':32"
  +cross: false
  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +ranking: 1704440511
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://lemmy.world/post/10298267"
  +editedAt: null
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1704354111 {#3017
    date: 2024-01-04 08:41:51.0 +01:00
  }
  +__isInitialized__: true
   …2
}
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
4 DENIED moderate 
Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#2201
  +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#2994 …}
  +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#2030 …}
  +image: null
  +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#2803 …}
  +slug: "Best-Method-for-Archiving-Articles"
  +title: "Best Method for Archiving Articles?"
  +url: null
  +body: "Sorry this feels like it should be obvious but I’m researching the best method to archive links mostly for personal use and potentially sending articles to my e-reader via Pocket which requires a URL."
  +type: "article"
  +lang: "en"
  +isOc: false
  +hasEmbed: false
  +commentCount: 11
  +favouriteCount: 52
  +score: 0
  +isAdult: false
  +sticky: false
  +lastActive: DateTime @1712577954 {#3031
    date: 2024-04-08 14:05:54.0 +02:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +adaAmount: 0
  +tags: null
  +mentions: null
  +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3036 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3039 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3041 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3043 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3045 …}
  +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3047 …}
  +children: [
    App\Entity\EntryComment {#2202
      +user: App\Entity\User {#265 …}
      +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#2201 …2}
      +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#2030 …}
      +image: null
      +parent: null
      +root: null
      +body: """
        This may be a good question for Self-hosting.\n
        \n
        I use a combo of OneNote (it’s pretty easy to put entire pages in OneNote, even from a mobile device) and Joplin. Obsidian works well too.\n
        \n
        What’s nice is all of them can take the full page, so it looks nearly identical to the website.\n
        \n
        Alternatively you can use reader mode in the browser, and send that to OneNote/Joplin, or send the link to [archive.ph](http://archive.ph) and save the archived version.\n
        \n
        Saving the full page enables search to work.\n
        \n
        Edit: forgot about your pocket url issue. Well both Joplin and OneNote save the url with the page info. Not sure how well Pocket utilizes pages archived on archive.ph. May need some testing.
        """
      +lang: "en"
      +isAdult: false
      +favouriteCount: 7
      +score: 0
      +lastActive: DateTime @1704358010 {#2197
        date: 2024-01-04 09:46:50.0 +01:00
      }
      +ip: null
      +tags: null
      +mentions: [
        "@bo5on@lemmy.world"
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      ]
      +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2210 …}
      +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2207 …}
      +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2208 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2204 …}
      +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2211 …}
      +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2266 …}
      -id: 279018
      -bodyTs: "'altern':58 'archiv':82,118 'archive.ph':77,78,120 'browser':66 'combo':14 'devic':31 'easi':20 'edit':92 'enabl':88 'entir':23 'even':27 'forgot':93 'full':48,86 'good':5 'host':10 'ident':54 'info':110 'issu':98 'joplin':33,101 'link':75 'look':52 'may':2,121 'mobil':30 'mode':63 'near':53 'need':122 'nice':40 'obsidian':34 'onenot':16,26,103 'onenote/joplin':71 'page':24,49,87,109,117 'pocket':96,115 'pretti':19 'put':22 'question':6 'reader':62 'save':80,84,104 'search':89 'self':9 'self-host':8 'send':68,73 'sure':112 'take':46 'test':124 'url':97,106 'use':12,61 'util':116 'version':83 'websit':57 'well':36,99,114 'work':35,91"
      +ranking: 0
      +commentCount: 0
      +upVotes: 0
      +downVotes: 0
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7864693"
      +editedAt: DateTimeImmutable @1719168928 {#2205
        date: 2024-06-23 20:55:28.0 +02:00
      }
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1704358010 {#2206
        date: 2024-01-04 09:46:50.0 +01:00
      }
      +"title": 279018
    }
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  -id: 27116
  -titleTs: "'archiv':4 'articl':5 'best':1 'method':2"
  -bodyTs: "'archiv':17 'articl':26 'best':14 'e':30 'e-read':29 'feel':3 'like':4 'link':18 'm':11 'method':15 'most':19 'obvious':8 'person':21 'pocket':33 'potenti':24 'reader':31 'requir':35 'research':12 'send':25 'sorri':1 'url':37 'use':22 'via':32"
  +cross: false
  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +ranking: 1704440511
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://lemmy.world/post/10298267"
  +editedAt: null
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1704354111 {#3017
    date: 2024-01-04 08:41:51.0 +01:00
  }
  +__isInitialized__: true
   …2
}
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
5 DENIED ROLE_USER 
null
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
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    I wouldn’t doubt that it is, and we just don’t know about it.\n
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    The NSA (CIA?, well Fed assholes) installed surveillance gear in Verizon data centers in the 90’s so they could listen to any phone call or read any text message. It was reported about 1996ish.\n
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    Never heard that it was removed, or if they were in other telecom systems.\n
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    So yea, my guess is it’s already there. Even worse, people in the right positions are probably controllable (again, good old CIA/NSA at work, thanks Hoover, ya jackass). Don’t need a law or specialized gear when the right people are already compromised.\n
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    Just read up on why Bill Gates even got an audience with IBM…
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        What VPN? What’s its’ endpoint?\n
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        Sadly it’s only getting worse.\n
        \n
        Google and hardware manufacturers aren’t motivated to make open devices. Quite the opposite, really.\n
        \n
        They learned their lesson from the BIOS wars of the 80’s that resulted in standardized hardware interface, so any compliant OS could be installed. This is what gave MS the ability to beat IBM at their own game, and prevented strong DRM.\n
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        Phones don’t have a standardized BIOS like that, so each brand requires drivers built specifically for it (also a bit of a result of using Linux as the base, since it’s a monolithic OS). Without those drivers you can’t install an OS, and each device is different.\n
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        Google and friends like it this way, their long-term goal is fully locked down phones that you don’t control and can’t modify, so they can fully implement DRM.
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        Lol, having separate devices is more convenient?\n
        \n
        The smallest camera I can pocket weighs 5x my phone, is about 10x thicker.\n
        \n
        GPS, same.\n
        \n
        Mp3 player, about the same as my phone.\n
        \n
        Computer/web browser? Well, nothing is as small as a phone.\n
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        I get all that in a single device with a phone weighing 8oz, measuring 6"x3"x3/8".\n
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        Separate devices is better if your use-cases for them have strong independence (e.g. Only use GPS in the car/on motorcycle, only use a camera when doing dedicated photo shoots, etc). If anything I’d say multiple devices is *less* convenient even then, it’s just that those devices work better for those use-cases, making the tradeoff of less convenient worthwhile. I’d much rather use a dedicated camera sometimes (and do), when I’m taking lots of pics and want to go faster.\n
        \n
        But for most people, these activities are strongly related, and occur throughout their day. It would be far less convenient to carry multiple devices and have to pull them out and handle for these activities.
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        A normal phone doesn’t have AGPS download ephemeris (edit:they may today, I haven’t looked into it for a while), doesn’t have Google Services tracking everything, or third party apps phoning home.\n
        \n
        I’d say by default a smartphone is way worse, it has fsr more data collection by default, even without an account. Every data point a feature phone has, a smartphone has, plus more.\n
        \n
        Voice calls and SMS use the exact same infrastructure in exactly the same way on both types of phones.\n
        \n
        But it can be mitigated quite a bit on Android by not using an account on it, disabling GPS, wifi, Bluetooth.\n
        \n
        They could also debloat it to reduce some of the background nonsense (Universal Android Debloat has a “safe to disable” list). (I’m assuming it’s not an unlocked Pixel or a phone that’s on the Lineage list).\n
        \n
        If they don’t care about apps, I’d even add NoRoot Firewall, configure it for always on, and set it to block all network access by default. This would be a Global Pre-Filter using asterisk (*) for both the address and port fields with both Wifi and Cell boxes checked (system apps will still have network access, this only affects users apps on a non-rooted phone).\n
        \n
        Other than root or flashing a custom OS (like Lineage or Divest, Graphene if they were lucky enough to get an unlocked Pixel), this is about the best that can be done.\n
        \n
        [No Root Firewall](https://m.apkpure.com/noroot-firewall/app.greyshirts.firewall/download)\n
        \n
        [Universal Android Debloat Tool](https://github.com/0x192/universal-android-debloater)
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      +body: "You can setup Android without a user account. I’m not sure about iPhone, I don’t believe that’s an option in the setup process (but it’s been a while, since I set mine up)."
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        If you can’t get a Pixel, look for a phone on the DivestOS list (or the [Lineage](https://lineageos.org/) list, it can be way better than stock Android since it lacks Google anything).\n
        \n
        [DivestOS](https://divestos.org/) is Lineage, with some more work done, kind of between Lineage and Graphene. I really like it, actually prefer it over Graphene for my use-case (it can run MicroG as a user app in a work profile, so kind of a stepping stone for getting away from Google).
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        They can do so with a smartphone too, they both use the same cellular network, so same voice calls, same plain-text text messages (SMS is a feature of the cellular network management, messages are injected into the cell management frames).\n
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        Even worse, smartphones use AGPS, so download from AGPS servers (providing another point of location data) and using that ephemeris data to improve location update times.
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    I don’t like so called smartphones (flashy devices to mine your data and other reasons) but my regular no touchscreen phone’s microphone is no longer working as it should, making conversations difficult.\n
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    Enter a smartphone I received as a present, my phobia (for lack of a better word) to smartphones and my (misguided?) obsession with privacy: I don’t want to use this smartphone as my default phone because I’m scared the carrier, ISP or google are going to mine my data and trace my calls.\n
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        Sadly it’s only getting worse.\n
        \n
        Google and hardware manufacturers aren’t motivated to make open devices. Quite the opposite, really.\n
        \n
        They learned their lesson from the BIOS wars of the 80’s that resulted in standardized hardware interface, so any compliant OS could be installed. This is what gave MS the ability to beat IBM at their own game, and prevented strong DRM.\n
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        Phones don’t have a standardized BIOS like that, so each brand requires drivers built specifically for it (also a bit of a result of using Linux as the base, since it’s a monolithic OS). Without those drivers you can’t install an OS, and each device is different.\n
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        Lol, having separate devices is more convenient?\n
        \n
        The smallest camera I can pocket weighs 5x my phone, is about 10x thicker.\n
        \n
        GPS, same.\n
        \n
        Mp3 player, about the same as my phone.\n
        \n
        Computer/web browser? Well, nothing is as small as a phone.\n
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        I get all that in a single device with a phone weighing 8oz, measuring 6"x3"x3/8".\n
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        Separate devices is better if your use-cases for them have strong independence (e.g. Only use GPS in the car/on motorcycle, only use a camera when doing dedicated photo shoots, etc). If anything I’d say multiple devices is *less* convenient even then, it’s just that those devices work better for those use-cases, making the tradeoff of less convenient worthwhile. I’d much rather use a dedicated camera sometimes (and do), when I’m taking lots of pics and want to go faster.\n
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        But for most people, these activities are strongly related, and occur throughout their day. It would be far less convenient to carry multiple devices and have to pull them out and handle for these activities.
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        A normal phone doesn’t have AGPS download ephemeris (edit:they may today, I haven’t looked into it for a while), doesn’t have Google Services tracking everything, or third party apps phoning home.\n
        \n
        I’d say by default a smartphone is way worse, it has fsr more data collection by default, even without an account. Every data point a feature phone has, a smartphone has, plus more.\n
        \n
        Voice calls and SMS use the exact same infrastructure in exactly the same way on both types of phones.\n
        \n
        But it can be mitigated quite a bit on Android by not using an account on it, disabling GPS, wifi, Bluetooth.\n
        \n
        They could also debloat it to reduce some of the background nonsense (Universal Android Debloat has a “safe to disable” list). (I’m assuming it’s not an unlocked Pixel or a phone that’s on the Lineage list).\n
        \n
        If they don’t care about apps, I’d even add NoRoot Firewall, configure it for always on, and set it to block all network access by default. This would be a Global Pre-Filter using asterisk (*) for both the address and port fields with both Wifi and Cell boxes checked (system apps will still have network access, this only affects users apps on a non-rooted phone).\n
        \n
        Other than root or flashing a custom OS (like Lineage or Divest, Graphene if they were lucky enough to get an unlocked Pixel), this is about the best that can be done.\n
        \n
        [No Root Firewall](https://m.apkpure.com/noroot-firewall/app.greyshirts.firewall/download)\n
        \n
        [Universal Android Debloat Tool](https://github.com/0x192/universal-android-debloater)
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      +body: "You can setup Android without a user account. I’m not sure about iPhone, I don’t believe that’s an option in the setup process (but it’s been a while, since I set mine up)."
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        If you can’t get a Pixel, look for a phone on the DivestOS list (or the [Lineage](https://lineageos.org/) list, it can be way better than stock Android since it lacks Google anything).\n
        \n
        [DivestOS](https://divestos.org/) is Lineage, with some more work done, kind of between Lineage and Graphene. I really like it, actually prefer it over Graphene for my use-case (it can run MicroG as a user app in a work profile, so kind of a stepping stone for getting away from Google).
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        They can do so with a smartphone too, they both use the same cellular network, so same voice calls, same plain-text text messages (SMS is a feature of the cellular network management, messages are injected into the cell management frames).\n
        \n
        Even worse, smartphones use AGPS, so download from AGPS servers (providing another point of location data) and using that ephemeris data to improve location update times.
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    I don’t like so called smartphones (flashy devices to mine your data and other reasons) but my regular no touchscreen phone’s microphone is no longer working as it should, making conversations difficult.\n
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    Enter a smartphone I received as a present, my phobia (for lack of a better word) to smartphones and my (misguided?) obsession with privacy: I don’t want to use this smartphone as my default phone because I’m scared the carrier, ISP or google are going to mine my data and trace my calls.\n
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    Which might be an overreaction, because each time I use my regular cell phone, the carrier knows when I’m calling from, who I’m calling and how long the call lasts.\n
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        Sadly it’s only getting worse.\n
        \n
        Google and hardware manufacturers aren’t motivated to make open devices. Quite the opposite, really.\n
        \n
        They learned their lesson from the BIOS wars of the 80’s that resulted in standardized hardware interface, so any compliant OS could be installed. This is what gave MS the ability to beat IBM at their own game, and prevented strong DRM.\n
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        Phones don’t have a standardized BIOS like that, so each brand requires drivers built specifically for it (also a bit of a result of using Linux as the base, since it’s a monolithic OS). Without those drivers you can’t install an OS, and each device is different.\n
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        Lol, having separate devices is more convenient?\n
        \n
        The smallest camera I can pocket weighs 5x my phone, is about 10x thicker.\n
        \n
        GPS, same.\n
        \n
        Mp3 player, about the same as my phone.\n
        \n
        Computer/web browser? Well, nothing is as small as a phone.\n
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        I get all that in a single device with a phone weighing 8oz, measuring 6"x3"x3/8".\n
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        Separate devices is better if your use-cases for them have strong independence (e.g. Only use GPS in the car/on motorcycle, only use a camera when doing dedicated photo shoots, etc). If anything I’d say multiple devices is *less* convenient even then, it’s just that those devices work better for those use-cases, making the tradeoff of less convenient worthwhile. I’d much rather use a dedicated camera sometimes (and do), when I’m taking lots of pics and want to go faster.\n
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        But for most people, these activities are strongly related, and occur throughout their day. It would be far less convenient to carry multiple devices and have to pull them out and handle for these activities.
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        A normal phone doesn’t have AGPS download ephemeris (edit:they may today, I haven’t looked into it for a while), doesn’t have Google Services tracking everything, or third party apps phoning home.\n
        \n
        I’d say by default a smartphone is way worse, it has fsr more data collection by default, even without an account. Every data point a feature phone has, a smartphone has, plus more.\n
        \n
        Voice calls and SMS use the exact same infrastructure in exactly the same way on both types of phones.\n
        \n
        But it can be mitigated quite a bit on Android by not using an account on it, disabling GPS, wifi, Bluetooth.\n
        \n
        They could also debloat it to reduce some of the background nonsense (Universal Android Debloat has a “safe to disable” list). (I’m assuming it’s not an unlocked Pixel or a phone that’s on the Lineage list).\n
        \n
        If they don’t care about apps, I’d even add NoRoot Firewall, configure it for always on, and set it to block all network access by default. This would be a Global Pre-Filter using asterisk (*) for both the address and port fields with both Wifi and Cell boxes checked (system apps will still have network access, this only affects users apps on a non-rooted phone).\n
        \n
        Other than root or flashing a custom OS (like Lineage or Divest, Graphene if they were lucky enough to get an unlocked Pixel), this is about the best that can be done.\n
        \n
        [No Root Firewall](https://m.apkpure.com/noroot-firewall/app.greyshirts.firewall/download)\n
        \n
        [Universal Android Debloat Tool](https://github.com/0x192/universal-android-debloater)
        """
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      +body: "You can setup Android without a user account. I’m not sure about iPhone, I don’t believe that’s an option in the setup process (but it’s been a while, since I set mine up)."
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        If you can’t get a Pixel, look for a phone on the DivestOS list (or the [Lineage](https://lineageos.org/) list, it can be way better than stock Android since it lacks Google anything).\n
        \n
        [DivestOS](https://divestos.org/) is Lineage, with some more work done, kind of between Lineage and Graphene. I really like it, actually prefer it over Graphene for my use-case (it can run MicroG as a user app in a work profile, so kind of a stepping stone for getting away from Google).
        """
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        They can do so with a smartphone too, they both use the same cellular network, so same voice calls, same plain-text text messages (SMS is a feature of the cellular network management, messages are injected into the cell management frames).\n
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        Even worse, smartphones use AGPS, so download from AGPS servers (providing another point of location data) and using that ephemeris data to improve location update times.
        """
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      I don’t like so called smartphones (flashy devices to mine your data and other reasons) but my regular no touchscreen phone’s microphone is no longer working as it should, making conversations difficult.\n
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      Enter a smartphone I received as a present, my phobia (for lack of a better word) to smartphones and my (misguided?) obsession with privacy: I don’t want to use this smartphone as my default phone because I’m scared the carrier, ISP or google are going to mine my data and trace my calls.\n
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          Lol, having separate devices is more convenient?\n
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          The smallest camera I can pocket weighs 5x my phone, is about 10x thicker.\n
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          GPS, same.\n
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          Mp3 player, about the same as my phone.\n
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          Computer/web browser? Well, nothing is as small as a phone.\n
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          I get all that in a single device with a phone weighing 8oz, measuring 6"x3"x3/8".\n
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          Separate devices is better if your use-cases for them have strong independence (e.g. Only use GPS in the car/on motorcycle, only use a camera when doing dedicated photo shoots, etc). If anything I’d say multiple devices is *less* convenient even then, it’s just that those devices work better for those use-cases, making the tradeoff of less convenient worthwhile. I’d much rather use a dedicated camera sometimes (and do), when I’m taking lots of pics and want to go faster.\n
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          But for most people, these activities are strongly related, and occur throughout their day. It would be far less convenient to carry multiple devices and have to pull them out and handle for these activities.
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          A normal phone doesn’t have AGPS download ephemeris (edit:they may today, I haven’t looked into it for a while), doesn’t have Google Services tracking everything, or third party apps phoning home.\n
          \n
          I’d say by default a smartphone is way worse, it has fsr more data collection by default, even without an account. Every data point a feature phone has, a smartphone has, plus more.\n
          \n
          Voice calls and SMS use the exact same infrastructure in exactly the same way on both types of phones.\n
          \n
          But it can be mitigated quite a bit on Android by not using an account on it, disabling GPS, wifi, Bluetooth.\n
          \n
          They could also debloat it to reduce some of the background nonsense (Universal Android Debloat has a “safe to disable” list). (I’m assuming it’s not an unlocked Pixel or a phone that’s on the Lineage list).\n
          \n
          If they don’t care about apps, I’d even add NoRoot Firewall, configure it for always on, and set it to block all network access by default. This would be a Global Pre-Filter using asterisk (*) for both the address and port fields with both Wifi and Cell boxes checked (system apps will still have network access, this only affects users apps on a non-rooted phone).\n
          \n
          Other than root or flashing a custom OS (like Lineage or Divest, Graphene if they were lucky enough to get an unlocked Pixel), this is about the best that can be done.\n
          \n
          [No Root Firewall](https://m.apkpure.com/noroot-firewall/app.greyshirts.firewall/download)\n
          \n
          [Universal Android Debloat Tool](https://github.com/0x192/universal-android-debloater)
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        +body: "You can setup Android without a user account. I’m not sure about iPhone, I don’t believe that’s an option in the setup process (but it’s been a while, since I set mine up)."
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          If you can’t get a Pixel, look for a phone on the DivestOS list (or the [Lineage](https://lineageos.org/) list, it can be way better than stock Android since it lacks Google anything).\n
          \n
          [DivestOS](https://divestos.org/) is Lineage, with some more work done, kind of between Lineage and Graphene. I really like it, actually prefer it over Graphene for my use-case (it can run MicroG as a user app in a work profile, so kind of a stepping stone for getting away from Google).
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          They can do so with a smartphone too, they both use the same cellular network, so same voice calls, same plain-text text messages (SMS is a feature of the cellular network management, messages are injected into the cell management frames).\n
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          Even worse, smartphones use AGPS, so download from AGPS servers (providing another point of location data) and using that ephemeris data to improve location update times.
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    Sadly it’s only getting worse.\n
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    Google and hardware manufacturers aren’t motivated to make open devices. Quite the opposite, really.\n
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    They learned their lesson from the BIOS wars of the 80’s that resulted in standardized hardware interface, so any compliant OS could be installed. This is what gave MS the ability to beat IBM at their own game, and prevented strong DRM.\n
    \n
    Phones don’t have a standardized BIOS like that, so each brand requires drivers built specifically for it (also a bit of a result of using Linux as the base, since it’s a monolithic OS). Without those drivers you can’t install an OS, and each device is different.\n
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    Google and friends like it this way, their long-term goal is fully locked down phones that you don’t control and can’t modify, so they can fully implement DRM.
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      I don’t like so called smartphones (flashy devices to mine your data and other reasons) but my regular no touchscreen phone’s microphone is no longer working as it should, making conversations difficult.\n
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      Enter a smartphone I received as a present, my phobia (for lack of a better word) to smartphones and my (misguided?) obsession with privacy: I don’t want to use this smartphone as my default phone because I’m scared the carrier, ISP or google are going to mine my data and trace my calls.\n
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      Which might be an overreaction, because each time I use my regular cell phone, the carrier knows when I’m calling from, who I’m calling and how long the call lasts.\n
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          Lol, having separate devices is more convenient?\n
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          The smallest camera I can pocket weighs 5x my phone, is about 10x thicker.\n
          \n
          GPS, same.\n
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          Mp3 player, about the same as my phone.\n
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          Computer/web browser? Well, nothing is as small as a phone.\n
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          I get all that in a single device with a phone weighing 8oz, measuring 6"x3"x3/8".\n
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          Separate devices is better if your use-cases for them have strong independence (e.g. Only use GPS in the car/on motorcycle, only use a camera when doing dedicated photo shoots, etc). If anything I’d say multiple devices is *less* convenient even then, it’s just that those devices work better for those use-cases, making the tradeoff of less convenient worthwhile. I’d much rather use a dedicated camera sometimes (and do), when I’m taking lots of pics and want to go faster.\n
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          But for most people, these activities are strongly related, and occur throughout their day. It would be far less convenient to carry multiple devices and have to pull them out and handle for these activities.
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          A normal phone doesn’t have AGPS download ephemeris (edit:they may today, I haven’t looked into it for a while), doesn’t have Google Services tracking everything, or third party apps phoning home.\n
          \n
          I’d say by default a smartphone is way worse, it has fsr more data collection by default, even without an account. Every data point a feature phone has, a smartphone has, plus more.\n
          \n
          Voice calls and SMS use the exact same infrastructure in exactly the same way on both types of phones.\n
          \n
          But it can be mitigated quite a bit on Android by not using an account on it, disabling GPS, wifi, Bluetooth.\n
          \n
          They could also debloat it to reduce some of the background nonsense (Universal Android Debloat has a “safe to disable” list). (I’m assuming it’s not an unlocked Pixel or a phone that’s on the Lineage list).\n
          \n
          If they don’t care about apps, I’d even add NoRoot Firewall, configure it for always on, and set it to block all network access by default. This would be a Global Pre-Filter using asterisk (*) for both the address and port fields with both Wifi and Cell boxes checked (system apps will still have network access, this only affects users apps on a non-rooted phone).\n
          \n
          Other than root or flashing a custom OS (like Lineage or Divest, Graphene if they were lucky enough to get an unlocked Pixel), this is about the best that can be done.\n
          \n
          [No Root Firewall](https://m.apkpure.com/noroot-firewall/app.greyshirts.firewall/download)\n
          \n
          [Universal Android Debloat Tool](https://github.com/0x192/universal-android-debloater)
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        +body: "You can setup Android without a user account. I’m not sure about iPhone, I don’t believe that’s an option in the setup process (but it’s been a while, since I set mine up)."
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          If you can’t get a Pixel, look for a phone on the DivestOS list (or the [Lineage](https://lineageos.org/) list, it can be way better than stock Android since it lacks Google anything).\n
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          [DivestOS](https://divestos.org/) is Lineage, with some more work done, kind of between Lineage and Graphene. I really like it, actually prefer it over Graphene for my use-case (it can run MicroG as a user app in a work profile, so kind of a stepping stone for getting away from Google).
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          They can do so with a smartphone too, they both use the same cellular network, so same voice calls, same plain-text text messages (SMS is a feature of the cellular network management, messages are injected into the cell management frames).\n
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          Even worse, smartphones use AGPS, so download from AGPS servers (providing another point of location data) and using that ephemeris data to improve location update times.
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    Sadly it’s only getting worse.\n
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    Google and hardware manufacturers aren’t motivated to make open devices. Quite the opposite, really.\n
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    They learned their lesson from the BIOS wars of the 80’s that resulted in standardized hardware interface, so any compliant OS could be installed. This is what gave MS the ability to beat IBM at their own game, and prevented strong DRM.\n
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    Phones don’t have a standardized BIOS like that, so each brand requires drivers built specifically for it (also a bit of a result of using Linux as the base, since it’s a monolithic OS). Without those drivers you can’t install an OS, and each device is different.\n
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    Google and friends like it this way, their long-term goal is fully locked down phones that you don’t control and can’t modify, so they can fully implement DRM.
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      I don’t like so called smartphones (flashy devices to mine your data and other reasons) but my regular no touchscreen phone’s microphone is no longer working as it should, making conversations difficult.\n
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      Enter a smartphone I received as a present, my phobia (for lack of a better word) to smartphones and my (misguided?) obsession with privacy: I don’t want to use this smartphone as my default phone because I’m scared the carrier, ISP or google are going to mine my data and trace my calls.\n
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          Lol, having separate devices is more convenient?\n
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          The smallest camera I can pocket weighs 5x my phone, is about 10x thicker.\n
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          GPS, same.\n
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          Mp3 player, about the same as my phone.\n
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          Computer/web browser? Well, nothing is as small as a phone.\n
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          I get all that in a single device with a phone weighing 8oz, measuring 6"x3"x3/8".\n
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          Separate devices is better if your use-cases for them have strong independence (e.g. Only use GPS in the car/on motorcycle, only use a camera when doing dedicated photo shoots, etc). If anything I’d say multiple devices is *less* convenient even then, it’s just that those devices work better for those use-cases, making the tradeoff of less convenient worthwhile. I’d much rather use a dedicated camera sometimes (and do), when I’m taking lots of pics and want to go faster.\n
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          But for most people, these activities are strongly related, and occur throughout their day. It would be far less convenient to carry multiple devices and have to pull them out and handle for these activities.
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          A normal phone doesn’t have AGPS download ephemeris (edit:they may today, I haven’t looked into it for a while), doesn’t have Google Services tracking everything, or third party apps phoning home.\n
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          I’d say by default a smartphone is way worse, it has fsr more data collection by default, even without an account. Every data point a feature phone has, a smartphone has, plus more.\n
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          Voice calls and SMS use the exact same infrastructure in exactly the same way on both types of phones.\n
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          But it can be mitigated quite a bit on Android by not using an account on it, disabling GPS, wifi, Bluetooth.\n
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          They could also debloat it to reduce some of the background nonsense (Universal Android Debloat has a “safe to disable” list). (I’m assuming it’s not an unlocked Pixel or a phone that’s on the Lineage list).\n
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          If they don’t care about apps, I’d even add NoRoot Firewall, configure it for always on, and set it to block all network access by default. This would be a Global Pre-Filter using asterisk (*) for both the address and port fields with both Wifi and Cell boxes checked (system apps will still have network access, this only affects users apps on a non-rooted phone).\n
          \n
          Other than root or flashing a custom OS (like Lineage or Divest, Graphene if they were lucky enough to get an unlocked Pixel), this is about the best that can be done.\n
          \n
          [No Root Firewall](https://m.apkpure.com/noroot-firewall/app.greyshirts.firewall/download)\n
          \n
          [Universal Android Debloat Tool](https://github.com/0x192/universal-android-debloater)
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        +body: "You can setup Android without a user account. I’m not sure about iPhone, I don’t believe that’s an option in the setup process (but it’s been a while, since I set mine up)."
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          If you can’t get a Pixel, look for a phone on the DivestOS list (or the [Lineage](https://lineageos.org/) list, it can be way better than stock Android since it lacks Google anything).\n
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          [DivestOS](https://divestos.org/) is Lineage, with some more work done, kind of between Lineage and Graphene. I really like it, actually prefer it over Graphene for my use-case (it can run MicroG as a user app in a work profile, so kind of a stepping stone for getting away from Google).
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          They can do so with a smartphone too, they both use the same cellular network, so same voice calls, same plain-text text messages (SMS is a feature of the cellular network management, messages are injected into the cell management frames).\n
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          Even worse, smartphones use AGPS, so download from AGPS servers (providing another point of location data) and using that ephemeris data to improve location update times.
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    Sadly it’s only getting worse.\n
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    Google and hardware manufacturers aren’t motivated to make open devices. Quite the opposite, really.\n
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    They learned their lesson from the BIOS wars of the 80’s that resulted in standardized hardware interface, so any compliant OS could be installed. This is what gave MS the ability to beat IBM at their own game, and prevented strong DRM.\n
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    Phones don’t have a standardized BIOS like that, so each brand requires drivers built specifically for it (also a bit of a result of using Linux as the base, since it’s a monolithic OS). Without those drivers you can’t install an OS, and each device is different.\n
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    Google and friends like it this way, their long-term goal is fully locked down phones that you don’t control and can’t modify, so they can fully implement DRM.
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      I don’t like so called smartphones (flashy devices to mine your data and other reasons) but my regular no touchscreen phone’s microphone is no longer working as it should, making conversations difficult.\n
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          Sadly it’s only getting worse.\n
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          A normal phone doesn’t have AGPS download ephemeris (edit:they may today, I haven’t looked into it for a while), doesn’t have Google Services tracking everything, or third party apps phoning home.\n
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          I’d say by default a smartphone is way worse, it has fsr more data collection by default, even without an account. Every data point a feature phone has, a smartphone has, plus more.\n
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          Voice calls and SMS use the exact same infrastructure in exactly the same way on both types of phones.\n
          \n
          But it can be mitigated quite a bit on Android by not using an account on it, disabling GPS, wifi, Bluetooth.\n
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          They could also debloat it to reduce some of the background nonsense (Universal Android Debloat has a “safe to disable” list). (I’m assuming it’s not an unlocked Pixel or a phone that’s on the Lineage list).\n
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          If they don’t care about apps, I’d even add NoRoot Firewall, configure it for always on, and set it to block all network access by default. This would be a Global Pre-Filter using asterisk (*) for both the address and port fields with both Wifi and Cell boxes checked (system apps will still have network access, this only affects users apps on a non-rooted phone).\n
          \n
          Other than root or flashing a custom OS (like Lineage or Divest, Graphene if they were lucky enough to get an unlocked Pixel), this is about the best that can be done.\n
          \n
          [No Root Firewall](https://m.apkpure.com/noroot-firewall/app.greyshirts.firewall/download)\n
          \n
          [Universal Android Debloat Tool](https://github.com/0x192/universal-android-debloater)
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        +body: "You can setup Android without a user account. I’m not sure about iPhone, I don’t believe that’s an option in the setup process (but it’s been a while, since I set mine up)."
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          If you can’t get a Pixel, look for a phone on the DivestOS list (or the [Lineage](https://lineageos.org/) list, it can be way better than stock Android since it lacks Google anything).\n
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          [DivestOS](https://divestos.org/) is Lineage, with some more work done, kind of between Lineage and Graphene. I really like it, actually prefer it over Graphene for my use-case (it can run MicroG as a user app in a work profile, so kind of a stepping stone for getting away from Google).
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          They can do so with a smartphone too, they both use the same cellular network, so same voice calls, same plain-text text messages (SMS is a feature of the cellular network management, messages are injected into the cell management frames).\n
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          Even worse, smartphones use AGPS, so download from AGPS servers (providing another point of location data) and using that ephemeris data to improve location update times.
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    Lol, having separate devices is more convenient?\n
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    The smallest camera I can pocket weighs 5x my phone, is about 10x thicker.\n
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    GPS, same.\n
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    Mp3 player, about the same as my phone.\n
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    Computer/web browser? Well, nothing is as small as a phone.\n
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    I get all that in a single device with a phone weighing 8oz, measuring 6"x3"x3/8".\n
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    Separate devices is better if your use-cases for them have strong independence (e.g. Only use GPS in the car/on motorcycle, only use a camera when doing dedicated photo shoots, etc). If anything I’d say multiple devices is *less* convenient even then, it’s just that those devices work better for those use-cases, making the tradeoff of less convenient worthwhile. I’d much rather use a dedicated camera sometimes (and do), when I’m taking lots of pics and want to go faster.\n
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    But for most people, these activities are strongly related, and occur throughout their day. It would be far less convenient to carry multiple devices and have to pull them out and handle for these activities.
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      I don’t like so called smartphones (flashy devices to mine your data and other reasons) but my regular no touchscreen phone’s microphone is no longer working as it should, making conversations difficult.\n
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      Enter a smartphone I received as a present, my phobia (for lack of a better word) to smartphones and my (misguided?) obsession with privacy: I don’t want to use this smartphone as my default phone because I’m scared the carrier, ISP or google are going to mine my data and trace my calls.\n
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      Which might be an overreaction, because each time I use my regular cell phone, the carrier knows when I’m calling from, who I’m calling and how long the call lasts.\n
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          Sadly it’s only getting worse.\n
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          Google and hardware manufacturers aren’t motivated to make open devices. Quite the opposite, really.\n
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          They learned their lesson from the BIOS wars of the 80’s that resulted in standardized hardware interface, so any compliant OS could be installed. This is what gave MS the ability to beat IBM at their own game, and prevented strong DRM.\n
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          Phones don’t have a standardized BIOS like that, so each brand requires drivers built specifically for it (also a bit of a result of using Linux as the base, since it’s a monolithic OS). Without those drivers you can’t install an OS, and each device is different.\n
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          Google and friends like it this way, their long-term goal is fully locked down phones that you don’t control and can’t modify, so they can fully implement DRM.
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          A normal phone doesn’t have AGPS download ephemeris (edit:they may today, I haven’t looked into it for a while), doesn’t have Google Services tracking everything, or third party apps phoning home.\n
          \n
          I’d say by default a smartphone is way worse, it has fsr more data collection by default, even without an account. Every data point a feature phone has, a smartphone has, plus more.\n
          \n
          Voice calls and SMS use the exact same infrastructure in exactly the same way on both types of phones.\n
          \n
          But it can be mitigated quite a bit on Android by not using an account on it, disabling GPS, wifi, Bluetooth.\n
          \n
          They could also debloat it to reduce some of the background nonsense (Universal Android Debloat has a “safe to disable” list). (I’m assuming it’s not an unlocked Pixel or a phone that’s on the Lineage list).\n
          \n
          If they don’t care about apps, I’d even add NoRoot Firewall, configure it for always on, and set it to block all network access by default. This would be a Global Pre-Filter using asterisk (*) for both the address and port fields with both Wifi and Cell boxes checked (system apps will still have network access, this only affects users apps on a non-rooted phone).\n
          \n
          Other than root or flashing a custom OS (like Lineage or Divest, Graphene if they were lucky enough to get an unlocked Pixel), this is about the best that can be done.\n
          \n
          [No Root Firewall](https://m.apkpure.com/noroot-firewall/app.greyshirts.firewall/download)\n
          \n
          [Universal Android Debloat Tool](https://github.com/0x192/universal-android-debloater)
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        +body: "You can setup Android without a user account. I’m not sure about iPhone, I don’t believe that’s an option in the setup process (but it’s been a while, since I set mine up)."
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          If you can’t get a Pixel, look for a phone on the DivestOS list (or the [Lineage](https://lineageos.org/) list, it can be way better than stock Android since it lacks Google anything).\n
          \n
          [DivestOS](https://divestos.org/) is Lineage, with some more work done, kind of between Lineage and Graphene. I really like it, actually prefer it over Graphene for my use-case (it can run MicroG as a user app in a work profile, so kind of a stepping stone for getting away from Google).
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          They can do so with a smartphone too, they both use the same cellular network, so same voice calls, same plain-text text messages (SMS is a feature of the cellular network management, messages are injected into the cell management frames).\n
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          Even worse, smartphones use AGPS, so download from AGPS servers (providing another point of location data) and using that ephemeris data to improve location update times.
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    Lol, having separate devices is more convenient?\n
    \n
    The smallest camera I can pocket weighs 5x my phone, is about 10x thicker.\n
    \n
    GPS, same.\n
    \n
    Mp3 player, about the same as my phone.\n
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    Computer/web browser? Well, nothing is as small as a phone.\n
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    I get all that in a single device with a phone weighing 8oz, measuring 6"x3"x3/8".\n
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    Separate devices is better if your use-cases for them have strong independence (e.g. Only use GPS in the car/on motorcycle, only use a camera when doing dedicated photo shoots, etc). If anything I’d say multiple devices is *less* convenient even then, it’s just that those devices work better for those use-cases, making the tradeoff of less convenient worthwhile. I’d much rather use a dedicated camera sometimes (and do), when I’m taking lots of pics and want to go faster.\n
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    But for most people, these activities are strongly related, and occur throughout their day. It would be far less convenient to carry multiple devices and have to pull them out and handle for these activities.
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      I don’t like so called smartphones (flashy devices to mine your data and other reasons) but my regular no touchscreen phone’s microphone is no longer working as it should, making conversations difficult.\n
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      Enter a smartphone I received as a present, my phobia (for lack of a better word) to smartphones and my (misguided?) obsession with privacy: I don’t want to use this smartphone as my default phone because I’m scared the carrier, ISP or google are going to mine my data and trace my calls.\n
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      Which might be an overreaction, because each time I use my regular cell phone, the carrier knows when I’m calling from, who I’m calling and how long the call lasts.\n
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      So I ask you: how much more data would I be leaking if I use my new smartphone for calls only, compared to a regular, no touchscreen phone?
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          Sadly it’s only getting worse.\n
          \n
          Google and hardware manufacturers aren’t motivated to make open devices. Quite the opposite, really.\n
          \n
          They learned their lesson from the BIOS wars of the 80’s that resulted in standardized hardware interface, so any compliant OS could be installed. This is what gave MS the ability to beat IBM at their own game, and prevented strong DRM.\n
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          Phones don’t have a standardized BIOS like that, so each brand requires drivers built specifically for it (also a bit of a result of using Linux as the base, since it’s a monolithic OS). Without those drivers you can’t install an OS, and each device is different.\n
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          Google and friends like it this way, their long-term goal is fully locked down phones that you don’t control and can’t modify, so they can fully implement DRM.
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          A normal phone doesn’t have AGPS download ephemeris (edit:they may today, I haven’t looked into it for a while), doesn’t have Google Services tracking everything, or third party apps phoning home.\n
          \n
          I’d say by default a smartphone is way worse, it has fsr more data collection by default, even without an account. Every data point a feature phone has, a smartphone has, plus more.\n
          \n
          Voice calls and SMS use the exact same infrastructure in exactly the same way on both types of phones.\n
          \n
          But it can be mitigated quite a bit on Android by not using an account on it, disabling GPS, wifi, Bluetooth.\n
          \n
          They could also debloat it to reduce some of the background nonsense (Universal Android Debloat has a “safe to disable” list). (I’m assuming it’s not an unlocked Pixel or a phone that’s on the Lineage list).\n
          \n
          If they don’t care about apps, I’d even add NoRoot Firewall, configure it for always on, and set it to block all network access by default. This would be a Global Pre-Filter using asterisk (*) for both the address and port fields with both Wifi and Cell boxes checked (system apps will still have network access, this only affects users apps on a non-rooted phone).\n
          \n
          Other than root or flashing a custom OS (like Lineage or Divest, Graphene if they were lucky enough to get an unlocked Pixel), this is about the best that can be done.\n
          \n
          [No Root Firewall](https://m.apkpure.com/noroot-firewall/app.greyshirts.firewall/download)\n
          \n
          [Universal Android Debloat Tool](https://github.com/0x192/universal-android-debloater)
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        +body: "You can setup Android without a user account. I’m not sure about iPhone, I don’t believe that’s an option in the setup process (but it’s been a while, since I set mine up)."
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          If you can’t get a Pixel, look for a phone on the DivestOS list (or the [Lineage](https://lineageos.org/) list, it can be way better than stock Android since it lacks Google anything).\n
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          [DivestOS](https://divestos.org/) is Lineage, with some more work done, kind of between Lineage and Graphene. I really like it, actually prefer it over Graphene for my use-case (it can run MicroG as a user app in a work profile, so kind of a stepping stone for getting away from Google).
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          They can do so with a smartphone too, they both use the same cellular network, so same voice calls, same plain-text text messages (SMS is a feature of the cellular network management, messages are injected into the cell management frames).\n
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          Even worse, smartphones use AGPS, so download from AGPS servers (providing another point of location data) and using that ephemeris data to improve location update times.
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    Lol, having separate devices is more convenient?\n
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    The smallest camera I can pocket weighs 5x my phone, is about 10x thicker.\n
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    GPS, same.\n
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    Mp3 player, about the same as my phone.\n
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    Computer/web browser? Well, nothing is as small as a phone.\n
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    Separate devices is better if your use-cases for them have strong independence (e.g. Only use GPS in the car/on motorcycle, only use a camera when doing dedicated photo shoots, etc). If anything I’d say multiple devices is *less* convenient even then, it’s just that those devices work better for those use-cases, making the tradeoff of less convenient worthwhile. I’d much rather use a dedicated camera sometimes (and do), when I’m taking lots of pics and want to go faster.\n
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    But for most people, these activities are strongly related, and occur throughout their day. It would be far less convenient to carry multiple devices and have to pull them out and handle for these activities.
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      I don’t like so called smartphones (flashy devices to mine your data and other reasons) but my regular no touchscreen phone’s microphone is no longer working as it should, making conversations difficult.\n
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      Enter a smartphone I received as a present, my phobia (for lack of a better word) to smartphones and my (misguided?) obsession with privacy: I don’t want to use this smartphone as my default phone because I’m scared the carrier, ISP or google are going to mine my data and trace my calls.\n
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          Sadly it’s only getting worse.\n
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          Google and hardware manufacturers aren’t motivated to make open devices. Quite the opposite, really.\n
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          They learned their lesson from the BIOS wars of the 80’s that resulted in standardized hardware interface, so any compliant OS could be installed. This is what gave MS the ability to beat IBM at their own game, and prevented strong DRM.\n
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          Google and friends like it this way, their long-term goal is fully locked down phones that you don’t control and can’t modify, so they can fully implement DRM.
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          Lol, having separate devices is more convenient?\n
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          The smallest camera I can pocket weighs 5x my phone, is about 10x thicker.\n
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          GPS, same.\n
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          Mp3 player, about the same as my phone.\n
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          Computer/web browser? Well, nothing is as small as a phone.\n
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          I get all that in a single device with a phone weighing 8oz, measuring 6"x3"x3/8".\n
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          Separate devices is better if your use-cases for them have strong independence (e.g. Only use GPS in the car/on motorcycle, only use a camera when doing dedicated photo shoots, etc). If anything I’d say multiple devices is *less* convenient even then, it’s just that those devices work better for those use-cases, making the tradeoff of less convenient worthwhile. I’d much rather use a dedicated camera sometimes (and do), when I’m taking lots of pics and want to go faster.\n
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          But for most people, these activities are strongly related, and occur throughout their day. It would be far less convenient to carry multiple devices and have to pull them out and handle for these activities.
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        +body: "You can setup Android without a user account. I’m not sure about iPhone, I don’t believe that’s an option in the setup process (but it’s been a while, since I set mine up)."
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          If you can’t get a Pixel, look for a phone on the DivestOS list (or the [Lineage](https://lineageos.org/) list, it can be way better than stock Android since it lacks Google anything).\n
          \n
          [DivestOS](https://divestos.org/) is Lineage, with some more work done, kind of between Lineage and Graphene. I really like it, actually prefer it over Graphene for my use-case (it can run MicroG as a user app in a work profile, so kind of a stepping stone for getting away from Google).
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          They can do so with a smartphone too, they both use the same cellular network, so same voice calls, same plain-text text messages (SMS is a feature of the cellular network management, messages are injected into the cell management frames).\n
          \n
          Even worse, smartphones use AGPS, so download from AGPS servers (providing another point of location data) and using that ephemeris data to improve location update times.
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    A normal phone doesn’t have AGPS download ephemeris (edit:they may today, I haven’t looked into it for a while), doesn’t have Google Services tracking everything, or third party apps phoning home.\n
    \n
    I’d say by default a smartphone is way worse, it has fsr more data collection by default, even without an account. Every data point a feature phone has, a smartphone has, plus more.\n
    \n
    Voice calls and SMS use the exact same infrastructure in exactly the same way on both types of phones.\n
    \n
    But it can be mitigated quite a bit on Android by not using an account on it, disabling GPS, wifi, Bluetooth.\n
    \n
    They could also debloat it to reduce some of the background nonsense (Universal Android Debloat has a “safe to disable” list). (I’m assuming it’s not an unlocked Pixel or a phone that’s on the Lineage list).\n
    \n
    If they don’t care about apps, I’d even add NoRoot Firewall, configure it for always on, and set it to block all network access by default. This would be a Global Pre-Filter using asterisk (*) for both the address and port fields with both Wifi and Cell boxes checked (system apps will still have network access, this only affects users apps on a non-rooted phone).\n
    \n
    Other than root or flashing a custom OS (like Lineage or Divest, Graphene if they were lucky enough to get an unlocked Pixel), this is about the best that can be done.\n
    \n
    [No Root Firewall](https://m.apkpure.com/noroot-firewall/app.greyshirts.firewall/download)\n
    \n
    [Universal Android Debloat Tool](https://github.com/0x192/universal-android-debloater)
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      I don’t like so called smartphones (flashy devices to mine your data and other reasons) but my regular no touchscreen phone’s microphone is no longer working as it should, making conversations difficult.\n
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      Enter a smartphone I received as a present, my phobia (for lack of a better word) to smartphones and my (misguided?) obsession with privacy: I don’t want to use this smartphone as my default phone because I’m scared the carrier, ISP or google are going to mine my data and trace my calls.\n
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      Which might be an overreaction, because each time I use my regular cell phone, the carrier knows when I’m calling from, who I’m calling and how long the call lasts.\n
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          Sadly it’s only getting worse.\n
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          Google and hardware manufacturers aren’t motivated to make open devices. Quite the opposite, really.\n
          \n
          They learned their lesson from the BIOS wars of the 80’s that resulted in standardized hardware interface, so any compliant OS could be installed. This is what gave MS the ability to beat IBM at their own game, and prevented strong DRM.\n
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          Phones don’t have a standardized BIOS like that, so each brand requires drivers built specifically for it (also a bit of a result of using Linux as the base, since it’s a monolithic OS). Without those drivers you can’t install an OS, and each device is different.\n
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          Google and friends like it this way, their long-term goal is fully locked down phones that you don’t control and can’t modify, so they can fully implement DRM.
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          Lol, having separate devices is more convenient?\n
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          The smallest camera I can pocket weighs 5x my phone, is about 10x thicker.\n
          \n
          GPS, same.\n
          \n
          Mp3 player, about the same as my phone.\n
          \n
          Computer/web browser? Well, nothing is as small as a phone.\n
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          I get all that in a single device with a phone weighing 8oz, measuring 6"x3"x3/8".\n
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          Separate devices is better if your use-cases for them have strong independence (e.g. Only use GPS in the car/on motorcycle, only use a camera when doing dedicated photo shoots, etc). If anything I’d say multiple devices is *less* convenient even then, it’s just that those devices work better for those use-cases, making the tradeoff of less convenient worthwhile. I’d much rather use a dedicated camera sometimes (and do), when I’m taking lots of pics and want to go faster.\n
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          But for most people, these activities are strongly related, and occur throughout their day. It would be far less convenient to carry multiple devices and have to pull them out and handle for these activities.
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        +body: "You can setup Android without a user account. I’m not sure about iPhone, I don’t believe that’s an option in the setup process (but it’s been a while, since I set mine up)."
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          If you can’t get a Pixel, look for a phone on the DivestOS list (or the [Lineage](https://lineageos.org/) list, it can be way better than stock Android since it lacks Google anything).\n
          \n
          [DivestOS](https://divestos.org/) is Lineage, with some more work done, kind of between Lineage and Graphene. I really like it, actually prefer it over Graphene for my use-case (it can run MicroG as a user app in a work profile, so kind of a stepping stone for getting away from Google).
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          They can do so with a smartphone too, they both use the same cellular network, so same voice calls, same plain-text text messages (SMS is a feature of the cellular network management, messages are injected into the cell management frames).\n
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          Even worse, smartphones use AGPS, so download from AGPS servers (providing another point of location data) and using that ephemeris data to improve location update times.
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    A normal phone doesn’t have AGPS download ephemeris (edit:they may today, I haven’t looked into it for a while), doesn’t have Google Services tracking everything, or third party apps phoning home.\n
    \n
    I’d say by default a smartphone is way worse, it has fsr more data collection by default, even without an account. Every data point a feature phone has, a smartphone has, plus more.\n
    \n
    Voice calls and SMS use the exact same infrastructure in exactly the same way on both types of phones.\n
    \n
    But it can be mitigated quite a bit on Android by not using an account on it, disabling GPS, wifi, Bluetooth.\n
    \n
    They could also debloat it to reduce some of the background nonsense (Universal Android Debloat has a “safe to disable” list). (I’m assuming it’s not an unlocked Pixel or a phone that’s on the Lineage list).\n
    \n
    If they don’t care about apps, I’d even add NoRoot Firewall, configure it for always on, and set it to block all network access by default. This would be a Global Pre-Filter using asterisk (*) for both the address and port fields with both Wifi and Cell boxes checked (system apps will still have network access, this only affects users apps on a non-rooted phone).\n
    \n
    Other than root or flashing a custom OS (like Lineage or Divest, Graphene if they were lucky enough to get an unlocked Pixel), this is about the best that can be done.\n
    \n
    [No Root Firewall](https://m.apkpure.com/noroot-firewall/app.greyshirts.firewall/download)\n
    \n
    [Universal Android Debloat Tool](https://github.com/0x192/universal-android-debloater)
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      I don’t like so called smartphones (flashy devices to mine your data and other reasons) but my regular no touchscreen phone’s microphone is no longer working as it should, making conversations difficult.\n
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      Enter a smartphone I received as a present, my phobia (for lack of a better word) to smartphones and my (misguided?) obsession with privacy: I don’t want to use this smartphone as my default phone because I’m scared the carrier, ISP or google are going to mine my data and trace my calls.\n
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      Which might be an overreaction, because each time I use my regular cell phone, the carrier knows when I’m calling from, who I’m calling and how long the call lasts.\n
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      So I ask you: how much more data would I be leaking if I use my new smartphone for calls only, compared to a regular, no touchscreen phone?
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          Sadly it’s only getting worse.\n
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          Google and hardware manufacturers aren’t motivated to make open devices. Quite the opposite, really.\n
          \n
          They learned their lesson from the BIOS wars of the 80’s that resulted in standardized hardware interface, so any compliant OS could be installed. This is what gave MS the ability to beat IBM at their own game, and prevented strong DRM.\n
          \n
          Phones don’t have a standardized BIOS like that, so each brand requires drivers built specifically for it (also a bit of a result of using Linux as the base, since it’s a monolithic OS). Without those drivers you can’t install an OS, and each device is different.\n
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          Google and friends like it this way, their long-term goal is fully locked down phones that you don’t control and can’t modify, so they can fully implement DRM.
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          Lol, having separate devices is more convenient?\n
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          The smallest camera I can pocket weighs 5x my phone, is about 10x thicker.\n
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          GPS, same.\n
          \n
          Mp3 player, about the same as my phone.\n
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          Computer/web browser? Well, nothing is as small as a phone.\n
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          I get all that in a single device with a phone weighing 8oz, measuring 6"x3"x3/8".\n
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          Separate devices is better if your use-cases for them have strong independence (e.g. Only use GPS in the car/on motorcycle, only use a camera when doing dedicated photo shoots, etc). If anything I’d say multiple devices is *less* convenient even then, it’s just that those devices work better for those use-cases, making the tradeoff of less convenient worthwhile. I’d much rather use a dedicated camera sometimes (and do), when I’m taking lots of pics and want to go faster.\n
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          But for most people, these activities are strongly related, and occur throughout their day. It would be far less convenient to carry multiple devices and have to pull them out and handle for these activities.
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        +body: "You can setup Android without a user account. I’m not sure about iPhone, I don’t believe that’s an option in the setup process (but it’s been a while, since I set mine up)."
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          If you can’t get a Pixel, look for a phone on the DivestOS list (or the [Lineage](https://lineageos.org/) list, it can be way better than stock Android since it lacks Google anything).\n
          \n
          [DivestOS](https://divestos.org/) is Lineage, with some more work done, kind of between Lineage and Graphene. I really like it, actually prefer it over Graphene for my use-case (it can run MicroG as a user app in a work profile, so kind of a stepping stone for getting away from Google).
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          They can do so with a smartphone too, they both use the same cellular network, so same voice calls, same plain-text text messages (SMS is a feature of the cellular network management, messages are injected into the cell management frames).\n
          \n
          Even worse, smartphones use AGPS, so download from AGPS servers (providing another point of location data) and using that ephemeris data to improve location update times.
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    A normal phone doesn’t have AGPS download ephemeris (edit:they may today, I haven’t looked into it for a while), doesn’t have Google Services tracking everything, or third party apps phoning home.\n
    \n
    I’d say by default a smartphone is way worse, it has fsr more data collection by default, even without an account. Every data point a feature phone has, a smartphone has, plus more.\n
    \n
    Voice calls and SMS use the exact same infrastructure in exactly the same way on both types of phones.\n
    \n
    But it can be mitigated quite a bit on Android by not using an account on it, disabling GPS, wifi, Bluetooth.\n
    \n
    They could also debloat it to reduce some of the background nonsense (Universal Android Debloat has a “safe to disable” list). (I’m assuming it’s not an unlocked Pixel or a phone that’s on the Lineage list).\n
    \n
    If they don’t care about apps, I’d even add NoRoot Firewall, configure it for always on, and set it to block all network access by default. This would be a Global Pre-Filter using asterisk (*) for both the address and port fields with both Wifi and Cell boxes checked (system apps will still have network access, this only affects users apps on a non-rooted phone).\n
    \n
    Other than root or flashing a custom OS (like Lineage or Divest, Graphene if they were lucky enough to get an unlocked Pixel), this is about the best that can be done.\n
    \n
    [No Root Firewall](https://m.apkpure.com/noroot-firewall/app.greyshirts.firewall/download)\n
    \n
    [Universal Android Debloat Tool](https://github.com/0x192/universal-android-debloater)
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      I don’t like so called smartphones (flashy devices to mine your data and other reasons) but my regular no touchscreen phone’s microphone is no longer working as it should, making conversations difficult.\n
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      Enter a smartphone I received as a present, my phobia (for lack of a better word) to smartphones and my (misguided?) obsession with privacy: I don’t want to use this smartphone as my default phone because I’m scared the carrier, ISP or google are going to mine my data and trace my calls.\n
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      So I ask you: how much more data would I be leaking if I use my new smartphone for calls only, compared to a regular, no touchscreen phone?
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          Sadly it’s only getting worse.\n
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          Google and hardware manufacturers aren’t motivated to make open devices. Quite the opposite, really.\n
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          They learned their lesson from the BIOS wars of the 80’s that resulted in standardized hardware interface, so any compliant OS could be installed. This is what gave MS the ability to beat IBM at their own game, and prevented strong DRM.\n
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          Phones don’t have a standardized BIOS like that, so each brand requires drivers built specifically for it (also a bit of a result of using Linux as the base, since it’s a monolithic OS). Without those drivers you can’t install an OS, and each device is different.\n
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          Google and friends like it this way, their long-term goal is fully locked down phones that you don’t control and can’t modify, so they can fully implement DRM.
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          Lol, having separate devices is more convenient?\n
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          The smallest camera I can pocket weighs 5x my phone, is about 10x thicker.\n
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          GPS, same.\n
          \n
          Mp3 player, about the same as my phone.\n
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          Computer/web browser? Well, nothing is as small as a phone.\n
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          I get all that in a single device with a phone weighing 8oz, measuring 6"x3"x3/8".\n
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          Separate devices is better if your use-cases for them have strong independence (e.g. Only use GPS in the car/on motorcycle, only use a camera when doing dedicated photo shoots, etc). If anything I’d say multiple devices is *less* convenient even then, it’s just that those devices work better for those use-cases, making the tradeoff of less convenient worthwhile. I’d much rather use a dedicated camera sometimes (and do), when I’m taking lots of pics and want to go faster.\n
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          But for most people, these activities are strongly related, and occur throughout their day. It would be far less convenient to carry multiple devices and have to pull them out and handle for these activities.
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          A normal phone doesn’t have AGPS download ephemeris (edit:they may today, I haven’t looked into it for a while), doesn’t have Google Services tracking everything, or third party apps phoning home.\n
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          I’d say by default a smartphone is way worse, it has fsr more data collection by default, even without an account. Every data point a feature phone has, a smartphone has, plus more.\n
          \n
          Voice calls and SMS use the exact same infrastructure in exactly the same way on both types of phones.\n
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          But it can be mitigated quite a bit on Android by not using an account on it, disabling GPS, wifi, Bluetooth.\n
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          They could also debloat it to reduce some of the background nonsense (Universal Android Debloat has a “safe to disable” list). (I’m assuming it’s not an unlocked Pixel or a phone that’s on the Lineage list).\n
          \n
          If they don’t care about apps, I’d even add NoRoot Firewall, configure it for always on, and set it to block all network access by default. This would be a Global Pre-Filter using asterisk (*) for both the address and port fields with both Wifi and Cell boxes checked (system apps will still have network access, this only affects users apps on a non-rooted phone).\n
          \n
          Other than root or flashing a custom OS (like Lineage or Divest, Graphene if they were lucky enough to get an unlocked Pixel), this is about the best that can be done.\n
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          [No Root Firewall](https://m.apkpure.com/noroot-firewall/app.greyshirts.firewall/download)\n
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          [Universal Android Debloat Tool](https://github.com/0x192/universal-android-debloater)
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          If you can’t get a Pixel, look for a phone on the DivestOS list (or the [Lineage](https://lineageos.org/) list, it can be way better than stock Android since it lacks Google anything).\n
          \n
          [DivestOS](https://divestos.org/) is Lineage, with some more work done, kind of between Lineage and Graphene. I really like it, actually prefer it over Graphene for my use-case (it can run MicroG as a user app in a work profile, so kind of a stepping stone for getting away from Google).
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          They can do so with a smartphone too, they both use the same cellular network, so same voice calls, same plain-text text messages (SMS is a feature of the cellular network management, messages are injected into the cell management frames).\n
          \n
          Even worse, smartphones use AGPS, so download from AGPS servers (providing another point of location data) and using that ephemeris data to improve location update times.
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  +body: "You can setup Android without a user account. I’m not sure about iPhone, I don’t believe that’s an option in the setup process (but it’s been a while, since I set mine up)."
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      I don’t like so called smartphones (flashy devices to mine your data and other reasons) but my regular no touchscreen phone’s microphone is no longer working as it should, making conversations difficult.\n
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      Enter a smartphone I received as a present, my phobia (for lack of a better word) to smartphones and my (misguided?) obsession with privacy: I don’t want to use this smartphone as my default phone because I’m scared the carrier, ISP or google are going to mine my data and trace my calls.\n
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      Which might be an overreaction, because each time I use my regular cell phone, the carrier knows when I’m calling from, who I’m calling and how long the call lasts.\n
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      So I ask you: how much more data would I be leaking if I use my new smartphone for calls only, compared to a regular, no touchscreen phone?
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          Sadly it’s only getting worse.\n
          \n
          Google and hardware manufacturers aren’t motivated to make open devices. Quite the opposite, really.\n
          \n
          They learned their lesson from the BIOS wars of the 80’s that resulted in standardized hardware interface, so any compliant OS could be installed. This is what gave MS the ability to beat IBM at their own game, and prevented strong DRM.\n
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          Phones don’t have a standardized BIOS like that, so each brand requires drivers built specifically for it (also a bit of a result of using Linux as the base, since it’s a monolithic OS). Without those drivers you can’t install an OS, and each device is different.\n
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          Google and friends like it this way, their long-term goal is fully locked down phones that you don’t control and can’t modify, so they can fully implement DRM.
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          Lol, having separate devices is more convenient?\n
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          The smallest camera I can pocket weighs 5x my phone, is about 10x thicker.\n
          \n
          GPS, same.\n
          \n
          Mp3 player, about the same as my phone.\n
          \n
          Computer/web browser? Well, nothing is as small as a phone.\n
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          I get all that in a single device with a phone weighing 8oz, measuring 6"x3"x3/8".\n
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          Separate devices is better if your use-cases for them have strong independence (e.g. Only use GPS in the car/on motorcycle, only use a camera when doing dedicated photo shoots, etc). If anything I’d say multiple devices is *less* convenient even then, it’s just that those devices work better for those use-cases, making the tradeoff of less convenient worthwhile. I’d much rather use a dedicated camera sometimes (and do), when I’m taking lots of pics and want to go faster.\n
          \n
          But for most people, these activities are strongly related, and occur throughout their day. It would be far less convenient to carry multiple devices and have to pull them out and handle for these activities.
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          A normal phone doesn’t have AGPS download ephemeris (edit:they may today, I haven’t looked into it for a while), doesn’t have Google Services tracking everything, or third party apps phoning home.\n
          \n
          I’d say by default a smartphone is way worse, it has fsr more data collection by default, even without an account. Every data point a feature phone has, a smartphone has, plus more.\n
          \n
          Voice calls and SMS use the exact same infrastructure in exactly the same way on both types of phones.\n
          \n
          But it can be mitigated quite a bit on Android by not using an account on it, disabling GPS, wifi, Bluetooth.\n
          \n
          They could also debloat it to reduce some of the background nonsense (Universal Android Debloat has a “safe to disable” list). (I’m assuming it’s not an unlocked Pixel or a phone that’s on the Lineage list).\n
          \n
          If they don’t care about apps, I’d even add NoRoot Firewall, configure it for always on, and set it to block all network access by default. This would be a Global Pre-Filter using asterisk (*) for both the address and port fields with both Wifi and Cell boxes checked (system apps will still have network access, this only affects users apps on a non-rooted phone).\n
          \n
          Other than root or flashing a custom OS (like Lineage or Divest, Graphene if they were lucky enough to get an unlocked Pixel), this is about the best that can be done.\n
          \n
          [No Root Firewall](https://m.apkpure.com/noroot-firewall/app.greyshirts.firewall/download)\n
          \n
          [Universal Android Debloat Tool](https://github.com/0x192/universal-android-debloater)
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          If you can’t get a Pixel, look for a phone on the DivestOS list (or the [Lineage](https://lineageos.org/) list, it can be way better than stock Android since it lacks Google anything).\n
          \n
          [DivestOS](https://divestos.org/) is Lineage, with some more work done, kind of between Lineage and Graphene. I really like it, actually prefer it over Graphene for my use-case (it can run MicroG as a user app in a work profile, so kind of a stepping stone for getting away from Google).
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          They can do so with a smartphone too, they both use the same cellular network, so same voice calls, same plain-text text messages (SMS is a feature of the cellular network management, messages are injected into the cell management frames).\n
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          Even worse, smartphones use AGPS, so download from AGPS servers (providing another point of location data) and using that ephemeris data to improve location update times.
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  +body: "You can setup Android without a user account. I’m not sure about iPhone, I don’t believe that’s an option in the setup process (but it’s been a while, since I set mine up)."
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      I don’t like so called smartphones (flashy devices to mine your data and other reasons) but my regular no touchscreen phone’s microphone is no longer working as it should, making conversations difficult.\n
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      Enter a smartphone I received as a present, my phobia (for lack of a better word) to smartphones and my (misguided?) obsession with privacy: I don’t want to use this smartphone as my default phone because I’m scared the carrier, ISP or google are going to mine my data and trace my calls.\n
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      Which might be an overreaction, because each time I use my regular cell phone, the carrier knows when I’m calling from, who I’m calling and how long the call lasts.\n
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      So I ask you: how much more data would I be leaking if I use my new smartphone for calls only, compared to a regular, no touchscreen phone?
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          Sadly it’s only getting worse.\n
          \n
          Google and hardware manufacturers aren’t motivated to make open devices. Quite the opposite, really.\n
          \n
          They learned their lesson from the BIOS wars of the 80’s that resulted in standardized hardware interface, so any compliant OS could be installed. This is what gave MS the ability to beat IBM at their own game, and prevented strong DRM.\n
          \n
          Phones don’t have a standardized BIOS like that, so each brand requires drivers built specifically for it (also a bit of a result of using Linux as the base, since it’s a monolithic OS). Without those drivers you can’t install an OS, and each device is different.\n
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          Google and friends like it this way, their long-term goal is fully locked down phones that you don’t control and can’t modify, so they can fully implement DRM.
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          Lol, having separate devices is more convenient?\n
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          The smallest camera I can pocket weighs 5x my phone, is about 10x thicker.\n
          \n
          GPS, same.\n
          \n
          Mp3 player, about the same as my phone.\n
          \n
          Computer/web browser? Well, nothing is as small as a phone.\n
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          I get all that in a single device with a phone weighing 8oz, measuring 6"x3"x3/8".\n
          \n
          Separate devices is better if your use-cases for them have strong independence (e.g. Only use GPS in the car/on motorcycle, only use a camera when doing dedicated photo shoots, etc). If anything I’d say multiple devices is *less* convenient even then, it’s just that those devices work better for those use-cases, making the tradeoff of less convenient worthwhile. I’d much rather use a dedicated camera sometimes (and do), when I’m taking lots of pics and want to go faster.\n
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          But for most people, these activities are strongly related, and occur throughout their day. It would be far less convenient to carry multiple devices and have to pull them out and handle for these activities.
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          A normal phone doesn’t have AGPS download ephemeris (edit:they may today, I haven’t looked into it for a while), doesn’t have Google Services tracking everything, or third party apps phoning home.\n
          \n
          I’d say by default a smartphone is way worse, it has fsr more data collection by default, even without an account. Every data point a feature phone has, a smartphone has, plus more.\n
          \n
          Voice calls and SMS use the exact same infrastructure in exactly the same way on both types of phones.\n
          \n
          But it can be mitigated quite a bit on Android by not using an account on it, disabling GPS, wifi, Bluetooth.\n
          \n
          They could also debloat it to reduce some of the background nonsense (Universal Android Debloat has a “safe to disable” list). (I’m assuming it’s not an unlocked Pixel or a phone that’s on the Lineage list).\n
          \n
          If they don’t care about apps, I’d even add NoRoot Firewall, configure it for always on, and set it to block all network access by default. This would be a Global Pre-Filter using asterisk (*) for both the address and port fields with both Wifi and Cell boxes checked (system apps will still have network access, this only affects users apps on a non-rooted phone).\n
          \n
          Other than root or flashing a custom OS (like Lineage or Divest, Graphene if they were lucky enough to get an unlocked Pixel), this is about the best that can be done.\n
          \n
          [No Root Firewall](https://m.apkpure.com/noroot-firewall/app.greyshirts.firewall/download)\n
          \n
          [Universal Android Debloat Tool](https://github.com/0x192/universal-android-debloater)
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          If you can’t get a Pixel, look for a phone on the DivestOS list (or the [Lineage](https://lineageos.org/) list, it can be way better than stock Android since it lacks Google anything).\n
          \n
          [DivestOS](https://divestos.org/) is Lineage, with some more work done, kind of between Lineage and Graphene. I really like it, actually prefer it over Graphene for my use-case (it can run MicroG as a user app in a work profile, so kind of a stepping stone for getting away from Google).
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          They can do so with a smartphone too, they both use the same cellular network, so same voice calls, same plain-text text messages (SMS is a feature of the cellular network management, messages are injected into the cell management frames).\n
          \n
          Even worse, smartphones use AGPS, so download from AGPS servers (providing another point of location data) and using that ephemeris data to improve location update times.
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  +body: "You can setup Android without a user account. I’m not sure about iPhone, I don’t believe that’s an option in the setup process (but it’s been a while, since I set mine up)."
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      I don’t like so called smartphones (flashy devices to mine your data and other reasons) but my regular no touchscreen phone’s microphone is no longer working as it should, making conversations difficult.\n
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      Enter a smartphone I received as a present, my phobia (for lack of a better word) to smartphones and my (misguided?) obsession with privacy: I don’t want to use this smartphone as my default phone because I’m scared the carrier, ISP or google are going to mine my data and trace my calls.\n
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      Which might be an overreaction, because each time I use my regular cell phone, the carrier knows when I’m calling from, who I’m calling and how long the call lasts.\n
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      So I ask you: how much more data would I be leaking if I use my new smartphone for calls only, compared to a regular, no touchscreen phone?
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          Sadly it’s only getting worse.\n
          \n
          Google and hardware manufacturers aren’t motivated to make open devices. Quite the opposite, really.\n
          \n
          They learned their lesson from the BIOS wars of the 80’s that resulted in standardized hardware interface, so any compliant OS could be installed. This is what gave MS the ability to beat IBM at their own game, and prevented strong DRM.\n
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          Phones don’t have a standardized BIOS like that, so each brand requires drivers built specifically for it (also a bit of a result of using Linux as the base, since it’s a monolithic OS). Without those drivers you can’t install an OS, and each device is different.\n
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          Google and friends like it this way, their long-term goal is fully locked down phones that you don’t control and can’t modify, so they can fully implement DRM.
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          Lol, having separate devices is more convenient?\n
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          The smallest camera I can pocket weighs 5x my phone, is about 10x thicker.\n
          \n
          GPS, same.\n
          \n
          Mp3 player, about the same as my phone.\n
          \n
          Computer/web browser? Well, nothing is as small as a phone.\n
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          I get all that in a single device with a phone weighing 8oz, measuring 6"x3"x3/8".\n
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          Separate devices is better if your use-cases for them have strong independence (e.g. Only use GPS in the car/on motorcycle, only use a camera when doing dedicated photo shoots, etc). If anything I’d say multiple devices is *less* convenient even then, it’s just that those devices work better for those use-cases, making the tradeoff of less convenient worthwhile. I’d much rather use a dedicated camera sometimes (and do), when I’m taking lots of pics and want to go faster.\n
          \n
          But for most people, these activities are strongly related, and occur throughout their day. It would be far less convenient to carry multiple devices and have to pull them out and handle for these activities.
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          A normal phone doesn’t have AGPS download ephemeris (edit:they may today, I haven’t looked into it for a while), doesn’t have Google Services tracking everything, or third party apps phoning home.\n
          \n
          I’d say by default a smartphone is way worse, it has fsr more data collection by default, even without an account. Every data point a feature phone has, a smartphone has, plus more.\n
          \n
          Voice calls and SMS use the exact same infrastructure in exactly the same way on both types of phones.\n
          \n
          But it can be mitigated quite a bit on Android by not using an account on it, disabling GPS, wifi, Bluetooth.\n
          \n
          They could also debloat it to reduce some of the background nonsense (Universal Android Debloat has a “safe to disable” list). (I’m assuming it’s not an unlocked Pixel or a phone that’s on the Lineage list).\n
          \n
          If they don’t care about apps, I’d even add NoRoot Firewall, configure it for always on, and set it to block all network access by default. This would be a Global Pre-Filter using asterisk (*) for both the address and port fields with both Wifi and Cell boxes checked (system apps will still have network access, this only affects users apps on a non-rooted phone).\n
          \n
          Other than root or flashing a custom OS (like Lineage or Divest, Graphene if they were lucky enough to get an unlocked Pixel), this is about the best that can be done.\n
          \n
          [No Root Firewall](https://m.apkpure.com/noroot-firewall/app.greyshirts.firewall/download)\n
          \n
          [Universal Android Debloat Tool](https://github.com/0x192/universal-android-debloater)
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        +body: "You can setup Android without a user account. I’m not sure about iPhone, I don’t believe that’s an option in the setup process (but it’s been a while, since I set mine up)."
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          They can do so with a smartphone too, they both use the same cellular network, so same voice calls, same plain-text text messages (SMS is a feature of the cellular network management, messages are injected into the cell management frames).\n
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          Even worse, smartphones use AGPS, so download from AGPS servers (providing another point of location data) and using that ephemeris data to improve location update times.
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    If you can’t get a Pixel, look for a phone on the DivestOS list (or the [Lineage](https://lineageos.org/) list, it can be way better than stock Android since it lacks Google anything).\n
    \n
    [DivestOS](https://divestos.org/) is Lineage, with some more work done, kind of between Lineage and Graphene. I really like it, actually prefer it over Graphene for my use-case (it can run MicroG as a user app in a work profile, so kind of a stepping stone for getting away from Google).
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      I don’t like so called smartphones (flashy devices to mine your data and other reasons) but my regular no touchscreen phone’s microphone is no longer working as it should, making conversations difficult.\n
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      Enter a smartphone I received as a present, my phobia (for lack of a better word) to smartphones and my (misguided?) obsession with privacy: I don’t want to use this smartphone as my default phone because I’m scared the carrier, ISP or google are going to mine my data and trace my calls.\n
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      Which might be an overreaction, because each time I use my regular cell phone, the carrier knows when I’m calling from, who I’m calling and how long the call lasts.\n
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      So I ask you: how much more data would I be leaking if I use my new smartphone for calls only, compared to a regular, no touchscreen phone?
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          Sadly it’s only getting worse.\n
          \n
          Google and hardware manufacturers aren’t motivated to make open devices. Quite the opposite, really.\n
          \n
          They learned their lesson from the BIOS wars of the 80’s that resulted in standardized hardware interface, so any compliant OS could be installed. This is what gave MS the ability to beat IBM at their own game, and prevented strong DRM.\n
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          Phones don’t have a standardized BIOS like that, so each brand requires drivers built specifically for it (also a bit of a result of using Linux as the base, since it’s a monolithic OS). Without those drivers you can’t install an OS, and each device is different.\n
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          Google and friends like it this way, their long-term goal is fully locked down phones that you don’t control and can’t modify, so they can fully implement DRM.
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          Lol, having separate devices is more convenient?\n
          \n
          The smallest camera I can pocket weighs 5x my phone, is about 10x thicker.\n
          \n
          GPS, same.\n
          \n
          Mp3 player, about the same as my phone.\n
          \n
          Computer/web browser? Well, nothing is as small as a phone.\n
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          I get all that in a single device with a phone weighing 8oz, measuring 6"x3"x3/8".\n
          \n
          Separate devices is better if your use-cases for them have strong independence (e.g. Only use GPS in the car/on motorcycle, only use a camera when doing dedicated photo shoots, etc). If anything I’d say multiple devices is *less* convenient even then, it’s just that those devices work better for those use-cases, making the tradeoff of less convenient worthwhile. I’d much rather use a dedicated camera sometimes (and do), when I’m taking lots of pics and want to go faster.\n
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          But for most people, these activities are strongly related, and occur throughout their day. It would be far less convenient to carry multiple devices and have to pull them out and handle for these activities.
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          A normal phone doesn’t have AGPS download ephemeris (edit:they may today, I haven’t looked into it for a while), doesn’t have Google Services tracking everything, or third party apps phoning home.\n
          \n
          I’d say by default a smartphone is way worse, it has fsr more data collection by default, even without an account. Every data point a feature phone has, a smartphone has, plus more.\n
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          Voice calls and SMS use the exact same infrastructure in exactly the same way on both types of phones.\n
          \n
          But it can be mitigated quite a bit on Android by not using an account on it, disabling GPS, wifi, Bluetooth.\n
          \n
          They could also debloat it to reduce some of the background nonsense (Universal Android Debloat has a “safe to disable” list). (I’m assuming it’s not an unlocked Pixel or a phone that’s on the Lineage list).\n
          \n
          If they don’t care about apps, I’d even add NoRoot Firewall, configure it for always on, and set it to block all network access by default. This would be a Global Pre-Filter using asterisk (*) for both the address and port fields with both Wifi and Cell boxes checked (system apps will still have network access, this only affects users apps on a non-rooted phone).\n
          \n
          Other than root or flashing a custom OS (like Lineage or Divest, Graphene if they were lucky enough to get an unlocked Pixel), this is about the best that can be done.\n
          \n
          [No Root Firewall](https://m.apkpure.com/noroot-firewall/app.greyshirts.firewall/download)\n
          \n
          [Universal Android Debloat Tool](https://github.com/0x192/universal-android-debloater)
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        +body: "You can setup Android without a user account. I’m not sure about iPhone, I don’t believe that’s an option in the setup process (but it’s been a while, since I set mine up)."
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          They can do so with a smartphone too, they both use the same cellular network, so same voice calls, same plain-text text messages (SMS is a feature of the cellular network management, messages are injected into the cell management frames).\n
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          Even worse, smartphones use AGPS, so download from AGPS servers (providing another point of location data) and using that ephemeris data to improve location update times.
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    If you can’t get a Pixel, look for a phone on the DivestOS list (or the [Lineage](https://lineageos.org/) list, it can be way better than stock Android since it lacks Google anything).\n
    \n
    [DivestOS](https://divestos.org/) is Lineage, with some more work done, kind of between Lineage and Graphene. I really like it, actually prefer it over Graphene for my use-case (it can run MicroG as a user app in a work profile, so kind of a stepping stone for getting away from Google).
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      I don’t like so called smartphones (flashy devices to mine your data and other reasons) but my regular no touchscreen phone’s microphone is no longer working as it should, making conversations difficult.\n
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      Enter a smartphone I received as a present, my phobia (for lack of a better word) to smartphones and my (misguided?) obsession with privacy: I don’t want to use this smartphone as my default phone because I’m scared the carrier, ISP or google are going to mine my data and trace my calls.\n
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      Which might be an overreaction, because each time I use my regular cell phone, the carrier knows when I’m calling from, who I’m calling and how long the call lasts.\n
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      So I ask you: how much more data would I be leaking if I use my new smartphone for calls only, compared to a regular, no touchscreen phone?
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          Sadly it’s only getting worse.\n
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          Google and hardware manufacturers aren’t motivated to make open devices. Quite the opposite, really.\n
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          They learned their lesson from the BIOS wars of the 80’s that resulted in standardized hardware interface, so any compliant OS could be installed. This is what gave MS the ability to beat IBM at their own game, and prevented strong DRM.\n
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          Phones don’t have a standardized BIOS like that, so each brand requires drivers built specifically for it (also a bit of a result of using Linux as the base, since it’s a monolithic OS). Without those drivers you can’t install an OS, and each device is different.\n
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          Google and friends like it this way, their long-term goal is fully locked down phones that you don’t control and can’t modify, so they can fully implement DRM.
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          Lol, having separate devices is more convenient?\n
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          The smallest camera I can pocket weighs 5x my phone, is about 10x thicker.\n
          \n
          GPS, same.\n
          \n
          Mp3 player, about the same as my phone.\n
          \n
          Computer/web browser? Well, nothing is as small as a phone.\n
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          I get all that in a single device with a phone weighing 8oz, measuring 6"x3"x3/8".\n
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          Separate devices is better if your use-cases for them have strong independence (e.g. Only use GPS in the car/on motorcycle, only use a camera when doing dedicated photo shoots, etc). If anything I’d say multiple devices is *less* convenient even then, it’s just that those devices work better for those use-cases, making the tradeoff of less convenient worthwhile. I’d much rather use a dedicated camera sometimes (and do), when I’m taking lots of pics and want to go faster.\n
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          But for most people, these activities are strongly related, and occur throughout their day. It would be far less convenient to carry multiple devices and have to pull them out and handle for these activities.
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          A normal phone doesn’t have AGPS download ephemeris (edit:they may today, I haven’t looked into it for a while), doesn’t have Google Services tracking everything, or third party apps phoning home.\n
          \n
          I’d say by default a smartphone is way worse, it has fsr more data collection by default, even without an account. Every data point a feature phone has, a smartphone has, plus more.\n
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          Voice calls and SMS use the exact same infrastructure in exactly the same way on both types of phones.\n
          \n
          But it can be mitigated quite a bit on Android by not using an account on it, disabling GPS, wifi, Bluetooth.\n
          \n
          They could also debloat it to reduce some of the background nonsense (Universal Android Debloat has a “safe to disable” list). (I’m assuming it’s not an unlocked Pixel or a phone that’s on the Lineage list).\n
          \n
          If they don’t care about apps, I’d even add NoRoot Firewall, configure it for always on, and set it to block all network access by default. This would be a Global Pre-Filter using asterisk (*) for both the address and port fields with both Wifi and Cell boxes checked (system apps will still have network access, this only affects users apps on a non-rooted phone).\n
          \n
          Other than root or flashing a custom OS (like Lineage or Divest, Graphene if they were lucky enough to get an unlocked Pixel), this is about the best that can be done.\n
          \n
          [No Root Firewall](https://m.apkpure.com/noroot-firewall/app.greyshirts.firewall/download)\n
          \n
          [Universal Android Debloat Tool](https://github.com/0x192/universal-android-debloater)
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        +body: "You can setup Android without a user account. I’m not sure about iPhone, I don’t believe that’s an option in the setup process (but it’s been a while, since I set mine up)."
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          They can do so with a smartphone too, they both use the same cellular network, so same voice calls, same plain-text text messages (SMS is a feature of the cellular network management, messages are injected into the cell management frames).\n
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          Even worse, smartphones use AGPS, so download from AGPS servers (providing another point of location data) and using that ephemeris data to improve location update times.
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    If you can’t get a Pixel, look for a phone on the DivestOS list (or the [Lineage](https://lineageos.org/) list, it can be way better than stock Android since it lacks Google anything).\n
    \n
    [DivestOS](https://divestos.org/) is Lineage, with some more work done, kind of between Lineage and Graphene. I really like it, actually prefer it over Graphene for my use-case (it can run MicroG as a user app in a work profile, so kind of a stepping stone for getting away from Google).
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      I don’t like so called smartphones (flashy devices to mine your data and other reasons) but my regular no touchscreen phone’s microphone is no longer working as it should, making conversations difficult.\n
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      Enter a smartphone I received as a present, my phobia (for lack of a better word) to smartphones and my (misguided?) obsession with privacy: I don’t want to use this smartphone as my default phone because I’m scared the carrier, ISP or google are going to mine my data and trace my calls.\n
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      Which might be an overreaction, because each time I use my regular cell phone, the carrier knows when I’m calling from, who I’m calling and how long the call lasts.\n
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      So I ask you: how much more data would I be leaking if I use my new smartphone for calls only, compared to a regular, no touchscreen phone?
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          Sadly it’s only getting worse.\n
          \n
          Google and hardware manufacturers aren’t motivated to make open devices. Quite the opposite, really.\n
          \n
          They learned their lesson from the BIOS wars of the 80’s that resulted in standardized hardware interface, so any compliant OS could be installed. This is what gave MS the ability to beat IBM at their own game, and prevented strong DRM.\n
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          Phones don’t have a standardized BIOS like that, so each brand requires drivers built specifically for it (also a bit of a result of using Linux as the base, since it’s a monolithic OS). Without those drivers you can’t install an OS, and each device is different.\n
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          Google and friends like it this way, their long-term goal is fully locked down phones that you don’t control and can’t modify, so they can fully implement DRM.
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          Lol, having separate devices is more convenient?\n
          \n
          The smallest camera I can pocket weighs 5x my phone, is about 10x thicker.\n
          \n
          GPS, same.\n
          \n
          Mp3 player, about the same as my phone.\n
          \n
          Computer/web browser? Well, nothing is as small as a phone.\n
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          I get all that in a single device with a phone weighing 8oz, measuring 6"x3"x3/8".\n
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          Separate devices is better if your use-cases for them have strong independence (e.g. Only use GPS in the car/on motorcycle, only use a camera when doing dedicated photo shoots, etc). If anything I’d say multiple devices is *less* convenient even then, it’s just that those devices work better for those use-cases, making the tradeoff of less convenient worthwhile. I’d much rather use a dedicated camera sometimes (and do), when I’m taking lots of pics and want to go faster.\n
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          But for most people, these activities are strongly related, and occur throughout their day. It would be far less convenient to carry multiple devices and have to pull them out and handle for these activities.
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          A normal phone doesn’t have AGPS download ephemeris (edit:they may today, I haven’t looked into it for a while), doesn’t have Google Services tracking everything, or third party apps phoning home.\n
          \n
          I’d say by default a smartphone is way worse, it has fsr more data collection by default, even without an account. Every data point a feature phone has, a smartphone has, plus more.\n
          \n
          Voice calls and SMS use the exact same infrastructure in exactly the same way on both types of phones.\n
          \n
          But it can be mitigated quite a bit on Android by not using an account on it, disabling GPS, wifi, Bluetooth.\n
          \n
          They could also debloat it to reduce some of the background nonsense (Universal Android Debloat has a “safe to disable” list). (I’m assuming it’s not an unlocked Pixel or a phone that’s on the Lineage list).\n
          \n
          If they don’t care about apps, I’d even add NoRoot Firewall, configure it for always on, and set it to block all network access by default. This would be a Global Pre-Filter using asterisk (*) for both the address and port fields with both Wifi and Cell boxes checked (system apps will still have network access, this only affects users apps on a non-rooted phone).\n
          \n
          Other than root or flashing a custom OS (like Lineage or Divest, Graphene if they were lucky enough to get an unlocked Pixel), this is about the best that can be done.\n
          \n
          [No Root Firewall](https://m.apkpure.com/noroot-firewall/app.greyshirts.firewall/download)\n
          \n
          [Universal Android Debloat Tool](https://github.com/0x192/universal-android-debloater)
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        +body: "You can setup Android without a user account. I’m not sure about iPhone, I don’t believe that’s an option in the setup process (but it’s been a while, since I set mine up)."
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          If you can’t get a Pixel, look for a phone on the DivestOS list (or the [Lineage](https://lineageos.org/) list, it can be way better than stock Android since it lacks Google anything).\n
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          [DivestOS](https://divestos.org/) is Lineage, with some more work done, kind of between Lineage and Graphene. I really like it, actually prefer it over Graphene for my use-case (it can run MicroG as a user app in a work profile, so kind of a stepping stone for getting away from Google).
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    They can do so with a smartphone too, they both use the same cellular network, so same voice calls, same plain-text text messages (SMS is a feature of the cellular network management, messages are injected into the cell management frames).\n
    \n
    Even worse, smartphones use AGPS, so download from AGPS servers (providing another point of location data) and using that ephemeris data to improve location update times.
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      I don’t like so called smartphones (flashy devices to mine your data and other reasons) but my regular no touchscreen phone’s microphone is no longer working as it should, making conversations difficult.\n
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      Enter a smartphone I received as a present, my phobia (for lack of a better word) to smartphones and my (misguided?) obsession with privacy: I don’t want to use this smartphone as my default phone because I’m scared the carrier, ISP or google are going to mine my data and trace my calls.\n
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      Which might be an overreaction, because each time I use my regular cell phone, the carrier knows when I’m calling from, who I’m calling and how long the call lasts.\n
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      So I ask you: how much more data would I be leaking if I use my new smartphone for calls only, compared to a regular, no touchscreen phone?
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          Sadly it’s only getting worse.\n
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          Google and hardware manufacturers aren’t motivated to make open devices. Quite the opposite, really.\n
          \n
          They learned their lesson from the BIOS wars of the 80’s that resulted in standardized hardware interface, so any compliant OS could be installed. This is what gave MS the ability to beat IBM at their own game, and prevented strong DRM.\n
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          Phones don’t have a standardized BIOS like that, so each brand requires drivers built specifically for it (also a bit of a result of using Linux as the base, since it’s a monolithic OS). Without those drivers you can’t install an OS, and each device is different.\n
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          Google and friends like it this way, their long-term goal is fully locked down phones that you don’t control and can’t modify, so they can fully implement DRM.
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          Lol, having separate devices is more convenient?\n
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          The smallest camera I can pocket weighs 5x my phone, is about 10x thicker.\n
          \n
          GPS, same.\n
          \n
          Mp3 player, about the same as my phone.\n
          \n
          Computer/web browser? Well, nothing is as small as a phone.\n
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          I get all that in a single device with a phone weighing 8oz, measuring 6"x3"x3/8".\n
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          Separate devices is better if your use-cases for them have strong independence (e.g. Only use GPS in the car/on motorcycle, only use a camera when doing dedicated photo shoots, etc). If anything I’d say multiple devices is *less* convenient even then, it’s just that those devices work better for those use-cases, making the tradeoff of less convenient worthwhile. I’d much rather use a dedicated camera sometimes (and do), when I’m taking lots of pics and want to go faster.\n
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          But for most people, these activities are strongly related, and occur throughout their day. It would be far less convenient to carry multiple devices and have to pull them out and handle for these activities.
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          A normal phone doesn’t have AGPS download ephemeris (edit:they may today, I haven’t looked into it for a while), doesn’t have Google Services tracking everything, or third party apps phoning home.\n
          \n
          I’d say by default a smartphone is way worse, it has fsr more data collection by default, even without an account. Every data point a feature phone has, a smartphone has, plus more.\n
          \n
          Voice calls and SMS use the exact same infrastructure in exactly the same way on both types of phones.\n
          \n
          But it can be mitigated quite a bit on Android by not using an account on it, disabling GPS, wifi, Bluetooth.\n
          \n
          They could also debloat it to reduce some of the background nonsense (Universal Android Debloat has a “safe to disable” list). (I’m assuming it’s not an unlocked Pixel or a phone that’s on the Lineage list).\n
          \n
          If they don’t care about apps, I’d even add NoRoot Firewall, configure it for always on, and set it to block all network access by default. This would be a Global Pre-Filter using asterisk (*) for both the address and port fields with both Wifi and Cell boxes checked (system apps will still have network access, this only affects users apps on a non-rooted phone).\n
          \n
          Other than root or flashing a custom OS (like Lineage or Divest, Graphene if they were lucky enough to get an unlocked Pixel), this is about the best that can be done.\n
          \n
          [No Root Firewall](https://m.apkpure.com/noroot-firewall/app.greyshirts.firewall/download)\n
          \n
          [Universal Android Debloat Tool](https://github.com/0x192/universal-android-debloater)
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        +body: "You can setup Android without a user account. I’m not sure about iPhone, I don’t believe that’s an option in the setup process (but it’s been a while, since I set mine up)."
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          If you can’t get a Pixel, look for a phone on the DivestOS list (or the [Lineage](https://lineageos.org/) list, it can be way better than stock Android since it lacks Google anything).\n
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          [DivestOS](https://divestos.org/) is Lineage, with some more work done, kind of between Lineage and Graphene. I really like it, actually prefer it over Graphene for my use-case (it can run MicroG as a user app in a work profile, so kind of a stepping stone for getting away from Google).
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    They can do so with a smartphone too, they both use the same cellular network, so same voice calls, same plain-text text messages (SMS is a feature of the cellular network management, messages are injected into the cell management frames).\n
    \n
    Even worse, smartphones use AGPS, so download from AGPS servers (providing another point of location data) and using that ephemeris data to improve location update times.
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      I don’t like so called smartphones (flashy devices to mine your data and other reasons) but my regular no touchscreen phone’s microphone is no longer working as it should, making conversations difficult.\n
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      Enter a smartphone I received as a present, my phobia (for lack of a better word) to smartphones and my (misguided?) obsession with privacy: I don’t want to use this smartphone as my default phone because I’m scared the carrier, ISP or google are going to mine my data and trace my calls.\n
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      Which might be an overreaction, because each time I use my regular cell phone, the carrier knows when I’m calling from, who I’m calling and how long the call lasts.\n
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      So I ask you: how much more data would I be leaking if I use my new smartphone for calls only, compared to a regular, no touchscreen phone?
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          Sadly it’s only getting worse.\n
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          Google and hardware manufacturers aren’t motivated to make open devices. Quite the opposite, really.\n
          \n
          They learned their lesson from the BIOS wars of the 80’s that resulted in standardized hardware interface, so any compliant OS could be installed. This is what gave MS the ability to beat IBM at their own game, and prevented strong DRM.\n
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          Phones don’t have a standardized BIOS like that, so each brand requires drivers built specifically for it (also a bit of a result of using Linux as the base, since it’s a monolithic OS). Without those drivers you can’t install an OS, and each device is different.\n
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          Google and friends like it this way, their long-term goal is fully locked down phones that you don’t control and can’t modify, so they can fully implement DRM.
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          Lol, having separate devices is more convenient?\n
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          The smallest camera I can pocket weighs 5x my phone, is about 10x thicker.\n
          \n
          GPS, same.\n
          \n
          Mp3 player, about the same as my phone.\n
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          Computer/web browser? Well, nothing is as small as a phone.\n
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          I get all that in a single device with a phone weighing 8oz, measuring 6"x3"x3/8".\n
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          Separate devices is better if your use-cases for them have strong independence (e.g. Only use GPS in the car/on motorcycle, only use a camera when doing dedicated photo shoots, etc). If anything I’d say multiple devices is *less* convenient even then, it’s just that those devices work better for those use-cases, making the tradeoff of less convenient worthwhile. I’d much rather use a dedicated camera sometimes (and do), when I’m taking lots of pics and want to go faster.\n
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          But for most people, these activities are strongly related, and occur throughout their day. It would be far less convenient to carry multiple devices and have to pull them out and handle for these activities.
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          A normal phone doesn’t have AGPS download ephemeris (edit:they may today, I haven’t looked into it for a while), doesn’t have Google Services tracking everything, or third party apps phoning home.\n
          \n
          I’d say by default a smartphone is way worse, it has fsr more data collection by default, even without an account. Every data point a feature phone has, a smartphone has, plus more.\n
          \n
          Voice calls and SMS use the exact same infrastructure in exactly the same way on both types of phones.\n
          \n
          But it can be mitigated quite a bit on Android by not using an account on it, disabling GPS, wifi, Bluetooth.\n
          \n
          They could also debloat it to reduce some of the background nonsense (Universal Android Debloat has a “safe to disable” list). (I’m assuming it’s not an unlocked Pixel or a phone that’s on the Lineage list).\n
          \n
          If they don’t care about apps, I’d even add NoRoot Firewall, configure it for always on, and set it to block all network access by default. This would be a Global Pre-Filter using asterisk (*) for both the address and port fields with both Wifi and Cell boxes checked (system apps will still have network access, this only affects users apps on a non-rooted phone).\n
          \n
          Other than root or flashing a custom OS (like Lineage or Divest, Graphene if they were lucky enough to get an unlocked Pixel), this is about the best that can be done.\n
          \n
          [No Root Firewall](https://m.apkpure.com/noroot-firewall/app.greyshirts.firewall/download)\n
          \n
          [Universal Android Debloat Tool](https://github.com/0x192/universal-android-debloater)
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          If you can’t get a Pixel, look for a phone on the DivestOS list (or the [Lineage](https://lineageos.org/) list, it can be way better than stock Android since it lacks Google anything).\n
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          [DivestOS](https://divestos.org/) is Lineage, with some more work done, kind of between Lineage and Graphene. I really like it, actually prefer it over Graphene for my use-case (it can run MicroG as a user app in a work profile, so kind of a stepping stone for getting away from Google).
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    They can do so with a smartphone too, they both use the same cellular network, so same voice calls, same plain-text text messages (SMS is a feature of the cellular network management, messages are injected into the cell management frames).\n
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    Even worse, smartphones use AGPS, so download from AGPS servers (providing another point of location data) and using that ephemeris data to improve location update times.
    """
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        On the flip side, direct open ports to your home network isn’t really a great idea anyway.\n
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    So I was looking into getting port forwarding set up and I realized just how closed-off the internet has gotten since the early days. It’s concerning. It used to be you would buy your own router and connect it to the internet, and that router would control port-forwarding and what-have-you.\n
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    It’s frustrating.\n
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    I like to control my stuff. I don’t like to depend on other people or be in a position where I have to trust someone not to fuck with my shit. Like, if the only thing outside my apartment that mattered to my website was a DNS record, I’d be really happy with that.\n
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        Tailscale has a feature called Funnel that enables you to share a resource over Tailscale to users who don’t have Tailscale.\n
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        I don’t even *like* Tolkien (find his writing to be just excessive, I don’t need to know the color of the buttons on the shirt of the dead character with no name), and even I have to agree, lol.\n
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        Too many re-interpretations of authors’ works. Tolkien is highly detailed - not reflecting that (or worse, substituting your own details) in a movie or show is just hubris. If you’re so damn good why don’t you write your *own* shit. Oh, your name doesn’t sell instantly is why.
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          What was this guy thinking? He was clearly violating copyright.\n
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        He has a point about simplifications when it comes to media and art being approachable by the masses (and I say this with no insult intended, simplification of anything will always have broader appeal). See popular music vs avante-guard jazz (i.e. Miles Davis, probably the most-approachable of the type!)\n
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"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
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"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
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161 DENIED ROLE_ADMIN 
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"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
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"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
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162 DENIED ROLE_MODERATOR 
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"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details