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Access Decision

affirmative Strategy
# Voter class
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2 
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# Result Attributes Object
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2 DENIED moderate 
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  +slug: "What-is-a-beautiful-concept-or-idea-that-continues-to"
  +title: "What is a beautiful concept or idea that continues to blow your mind?"
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  +body: """
    For me it is **Cellular Automata**, and more precisely the **Game of Life**.\n
    \n
    Imagine a giant Excel spreadsheet where the cells are randomly chosen to be either “alive” or “dead”. Each cell then follows a handful of simple rules.\n
    \n
    For example, if a cell is “alive” but has less than 2 “alive” neighbors it “dies” by under-population. If the cell is “alive” and has more than three “alive” neighbors it “dies” from over-population, etc.\n
    \n
    Then you sit back and just watch things play out. It turns out that these basic rules at the individual level lead to incredibly complex behaviors at the community level when you zoom out.\n
    \n
    It kinda, sorta, maybe resembles… life.\n
    \n
    There is colonization, reproduction, evolution, and sometimes even [space flight](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IK7nBOLYzdE)!
    """
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    date: 2023-07-15 13:41:32.0 +02:00
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      +body: """
        I am focusing on the “blow my mind” part, rather than the “beautiful” part of your question, but I am certain many philosophically-minded people would consider the following “beautiful”.\n
        \n
        Peter Singer’s argument in “Famine, Affluence, and Morality (1972)” that *you and most everyone you know* are probably *immoral or evil* and you don’t even realize it. It really affected my ideas of how to *strive* to live.\n
        \n
        Here is a good video explaining the idea in detail, worth 30m of your time.\n
        \n
        [Peter Singer - ordinary people are evil](https://youtu.be/KVl5kMXz1vA)
        """
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        date: 2023-07-13 00:53:28.0 +02:00
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        date: 2023-07-12 15:11:18.0 +02:00
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      +body: """
        > That’s quite the claim.\n
        \n
        **Yes**, it is, and as explained in the video the original author (and also the person explaining it) *admit* it is quite a claim, then proceed to demonstrate the veracity of the claim. I suggest you grab a cup of jo, settle in, and watch it. It addresses the points you bring up *directly*.\n
        \n
        [EDIT: Re: Quite a Claim: Yes, and thus fitting the OP’s “mind-blowing” criteria for the thread :-)]\n
        \n
        The *very* short answer to “are you immoral for purchasing a cell phone” is “*probably* yes”.\n
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        The proposition is not an easy one (it accepts it is extreme), but it is hard to deny when you march down the logic.
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        date: 2023-07-12 16:37:29.0 +02:00
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      +body: """
        You’ve committed *reductio ad absurdum*.\n
        \n
        Yes, most people are *probably* acting immorally and they are not even aware of it.\n
        \n
        That doesn’t mean it is *a pointless exercise* to identify the immoral behavior and *strive* to reduce or eliminate it, even if it is impossible to completely do so.
        """
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      +body: """
        You are (deliberately?) skipping over the part of *awareness*.\n
        \n
        Take for example a person who is aware that they cannot act morally when making seemingly normal, banal decisions. For example, they may be aware that when they choose to buy a shiny new cell phone when they have an older-but-still-perfectly-working model, they *very likely* doing something immoral. Because they are aware of the moral implications of their choice, they can choose hold-off buying a new phone for as long as possible (a morally-positive choice) and *perhaps* - going a step further - even using that money they would have spent on a new phone to help another person in need directly.\n
        \n
        *Most* people probably don’t contemplate the moral implications of the purchase of a new phone, *this is true* and I accept your position this. But it is clearly not “literally every person” as you have said, since it only takes a single person with awareness to disprove your statement. I am certain *at least* one such person exists (even if anecdotally), so I rely on the word “most” rather than “literally every”.
        """
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      +apId: "https://lemmy.world/comment/1171725"
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      +body: """
        > I probably did a dozen immoral things before breakfast this morning.\n
        \n
        Sure, certainly, yes, I’ll accept your admission at face value, **but** could you have done fewer?
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      +body: """
        I do not take issue with anything you said (your opinion is as valid as mine) - up until your last sentence, which piqued my interest.\n
        \n
        You seem to be implying that Mr Singer’s “radical ideas” are weak, invalid, or beneath consideration because our society hasn’t embedded them yet. I would like to respond that I think the value of a radical idea cannot, and probably should not, be measured by how well society accepts it. For example, there are a some pretty famous, radical ideas from this rabbi a couple thousand years ago that have totally failed to be embedded in our society, yet his radical ideas arguably still have significant merit. I am thinking specifically of the radical idea of kindness and peace expressed in “turning the other cheek”, an idea we, as a society, have for all intents and purposes rejected.\n
        \n
        Otherwise, I would also like to remind you that the OP just asked for ideas that blew our minds. Mr Singer’s idea, when I heard it for the first time, blew mine and I thought it fit the brief.
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    For me it is **Cellular Automata**, and more precisely the **Game of Life**.\n
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        I am focusing on the “blow my mind” part, rather than the “beautiful” part of your question, but I am certain many philosophically-minded people would consider the following “beautiful”.\n
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        Peter Singer’s argument in “Famine, Affluence, and Morality (1972)” that *you and most everyone you know* are probably *immoral or evil* and you don’t even realize it. It really affected my ideas of how to *strive* to live.\n
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        Here is a good video explaining the idea in detail, worth 30m of your time.\n
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        > That’s quite the claim.\n
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        You’ve committed *reductio ad absurdum*.\n
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        You are (deliberately?) skipping over the part of *awareness*.\n
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        > I probably did a dozen immoral things before breakfast this morning.\n
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        Sure, certainly, yes, I’ll accept your admission at face value, **but** could you have done fewer?
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        I do not take issue with anything you said (your opinion is as valid as mine) - up until your last sentence, which piqued my interest.\n
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        You seem to be implying that Mr Singer’s “radical ideas” are weak, invalid, or beneath consideration because our society hasn’t embedded them yet. I would like to respond that I think the value of a radical idea cannot, and probably should not, be measured by how well society accepts it. For example, there are a some pretty famous, radical ideas from this rabbi a couple thousand years ago that have totally failed to be embedded in our society, yet his radical ideas arguably still have significant merit. I am thinking specifically of the radical idea of kindness and peace expressed in “turning the other cheek”, an idea we, as a society, have for all intents and purposes rejected.\n
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    For me it is **Cellular Automata**, and more precisely the **Game of Life**.\n
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    Imagine a giant Excel spreadsheet where the cells are randomly chosen to be either “alive” or “dead”. Each cell then follows a handful of simple rules.\n
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    For example, if a cell is “alive” but has less than 2 “alive” neighbors it “dies” by under-population. If the cell is “alive” and has more than three “alive” neighbors it “dies” from over-population, etc.\n
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    Then you sit back and just watch things play out. It turns out that these basic rules at the individual level lead to incredibly complex behaviors at the community level when you zoom out.\n
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    It kinda, sorta, maybe resembles… life.\n
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    There is colonization, reproduction, evolution, and sometimes even [space flight](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IK7nBOLYzdE)!
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        I am focusing on the “blow my mind” part, rather than the “beautiful” part of your question, but I am certain many philosophically-minded people would consider the following “beautiful”.\n
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        Peter Singer’s argument in “Famine, Affluence, and Morality (1972)” that *you and most everyone you know* are probably *immoral or evil* and you don’t even realize it. It really affected my ideas of how to *strive* to live.\n
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        Here is a good video explaining the idea in detail, worth 30m of your time.\n
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        [Peter Singer - ordinary people are evil](https://youtu.be/KVl5kMXz1vA)
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        > That’s quite the claim.\n
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        **Yes**, it is, and as explained in the video the original author (and also the person explaining it) *admit* it is quite a claim, then proceed to demonstrate the veracity of the claim. I suggest you grab a cup of jo, settle in, and watch it. It addresses the points you bring up *directly*.\n
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        You’ve committed *reductio ad absurdum*.\n
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        Yes, most people are *probably* acting immorally and they are not even aware of it.\n
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        That doesn’t mean it is *a pointless exercise* to identify the immoral behavior and *strive* to reduce or eliminate it, even if it is impossible to completely do so.
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        You are (deliberately?) skipping over the part of *awareness*.\n
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        > I probably did a dozen immoral things before breakfast this morning.\n
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        Sure, certainly, yes, I’ll accept your admission at face value, **but** could you have done fewer?
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        I do not take issue with anything you said (your opinion is as valid as mine) - up until your last sentence, which piqued my interest.\n
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        You seem to be implying that Mr Singer’s “radical ideas” are weak, invalid, or beneath consideration because our society hasn’t embedded them yet. I would like to respond that I think the value of a radical idea cannot, and probably should not, be measured by how well society accepts it. For example, there are a some pretty famous, radical ideas from this rabbi a couple thousand years ago that have totally failed to be embedded in our society, yet his radical ideas arguably still have significant merit. I am thinking specifically of the radical idea of kindness and peace expressed in “turning the other cheek”, an idea we, as a society, have for all intents and purposes rejected.\n
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          > That’s quite the claim.\n
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          **Yes**, it is, and as explained in the video the original author (and also the person explaining it) *admit* it is quite a claim, then proceed to demonstrate the veracity of the claim. I suggest you grab a cup of jo, settle in, and watch it. It addresses the points you bring up *directly*.\n
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          [EDIT: Re: Quite a Claim: Yes, and thus fitting the OP’s “mind-blowing” criteria for the thread :-)]\n
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          The *very* short answer to “are you immoral for purchasing a cell phone” is “*probably* yes”.\n
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          The proposition is not an easy one (it accepts it is extreme), but it is hard to deny when you march down the logic.
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          You’ve committed *reductio ad absurdum*.\n
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          Yes, most people are *probably* acting immorally and they are not even aware of it.\n
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          That doesn’t mean it is *a pointless exercise* to identify the immoral behavior and *strive* to reduce or eliminate it, even if it is impossible to completely do so.
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          You are (deliberately?) skipping over the part of *awareness*.\n
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          Take for example a person who is aware that they cannot act morally when making seemingly normal, banal decisions. For example, they may be aware that when they choose to buy a shiny new cell phone when they have an older-but-still-perfectly-working model, they *very likely* doing something immoral. Because they are aware of the moral implications of their choice, they can choose hold-off buying a new phone for as long as possible (a morally-positive choice) and *perhaps* - going a step further - even using that money they would have spent on a new phone to help another person in need directly.\n
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          *Most* people probably don’t contemplate the moral implications of the purchase of a new phone, *this is true* and I accept your position this. But it is clearly not “literally every person” as you have said, since it only takes a single person with awareness to disprove your statement. I am certain *at least* one such person exists (even if anecdotally), so I rely on the word “most” rather than “literally every”.
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          > I probably did a dozen immoral things before breakfast this morning.\n
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          Sure, certainly, yes, I’ll accept your admission at face value, **but** could you have done fewer?
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          I do not take issue with anything you said (your opinion is as valid as mine) - up until your last sentence, which piqued my interest.\n
          \n
          You seem to be implying that Mr Singer’s “radical ideas” are weak, invalid, or beneath consideration because our society hasn’t embedded them yet. I would like to respond that I think the value of a radical idea cannot, and probably should not, be measured by how well society accepts it. For example, there are a some pretty famous, radical ideas from this rabbi a couple thousand years ago that have totally failed to be embedded in our society, yet his radical ideas arguably still have significant merit. I am thinking specifically of the radical idea of kindness and peace expressed in “turning the other cheek”, an idea we, as a society, have for all intents and purposes rejected.\n
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          Otherwise, I would also like to remind you that the OP just asked for ideas that blew our minds. Mr Singer’s idea, when I heard it for the first time, blew mine and I thought it fit the brief.
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    I am focusing on the “blow my mind” part, rather than the “beautiful” part of your question, but I am certain many philosophically-minded people would consider the following “beautiful”.\n
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    Peter Singer’s argument in “Famine, Affluence, and Morality (1972)” that *you and most everyone you know* are probably *immoral or evil* and you don’t even realize it. It really affected my ideas of how to *strive* to live.\n
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    Here is a good video explaining the idea in detail, worth 30m of your time.\n
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    [Peter Singer - ordinary people are evil](https://youtu.be/KVl5kMXz1vA)
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      For me it is **Cellular Automata**, and more precisely the **Game of Life**.\n
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          > That’s quite the claim.\n
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          **Yes**, it is, and as explained in the video the original author (and also the person explaining it) *admit* it is quite a claim, then proceed to demonstrate the veracity of the claim. I suggest you grab a cup of jo, settle in, and watch it. It addresses the points you bring up *directly*.\n
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          [EDIT: Re: Quite a Claim: Yes, and thus fitting the OP’s “mind-blowing” criteria for the thread :-)]\n
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          The *very* short answer to “are you immoral for purchasing a cell phone” is “*probably* yes”.\n
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          The proposition is not an easy one (it accepts it is extreme), but it is hard to deny when you march down the logic.
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          You’ve committed *reductio ad absurdum*.\n
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          Yes, most people are *probably* acting immorally and they are not even aware of it.\n
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          That doesn’t mean it is *a pointless exercise* to identify the immoral behavior and *strive* to reduce or eliminate it, even if it is impossible to completely do so.
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          You are (deliberately?) skipping over the part of *awareness*.\n
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          Take for example a person who is aware that they cannot act morally when making seemingly normal, banal decisions. For example, they may be aware that when they choose to buy a shiny new cell phone when they have an older-but-still-perfectly-working model, they *very likely* doing something immoral. Because they are aware of the moral implications of their choice, they can choose hold-off buying a new phone for as long as possible (a morally-positive choice) and *perhaps* - going a step further - even using that money they would have spent on a new phone to help another person in need directly.\n
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          *Most* people probably don’t contemplate the moral implications of the purchase of a new phone, *this is true* and I accept your position this. But it is clearly not “literally every person” as you have said, since it only takes a single person with awareness to disprove your statement. I am certain *at least* one such person exists (even if anecdotally), so I rely on the word “most” rather than “literally every”.
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          > I probably did a dozen immoral things before breakfast this morning.\n
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          Sure, certainly, yes, I’ll accept your admission at face value, **but** could you have done fewer?
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          I do not take issue with anything you said (your opinion is as valid as mine) - up until your last sentence, which piqued my interest.\n
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          You seem to be implying that Mr Singer’s “radical ideas” are weak, invalid, or beneath consideration because our society hasn’t embedded them yet. I would like to respond that I think the value of a radical idea cannot, and probably should not, be measured by how well society accepts it. For example, there are a some pretty famous, radical ideas from this rabbi a couple thousand years ago that have totally failed to be embedded in our society, yet his radical ideas arguably still have significant merit. I am thinking specifically of the radical idea of kindness and peace expressed in “turning the other cheek”, an idea we, as a society, have for all intents and purposes rejected.\n
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          Otherwise, I would also like to remind you that the OP just asked for ideas that blew our minds. Mr Singer’s idea, when I heard it for the first time, blew mine and I thought it fit the brief.
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    I am focusing on the “blow my mind” part, rather than the “beautiful” part of your question, but I am certain many philosophically-minded people would consider the following “beautiful”.\n
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    Peter Singer’s argument in “Famine, Affluence, and Morality (1972)” that *you and most everyone you know* are probably *immoral or evil* and you don’t even realize it. It really affected my ideas of how to *strive* to live.\n
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    Here is a good video explaining the idea in detail, worth 30m of your time.\n
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    [Peter Singer - ordinary people are evil](https://youtu.be/KVl5kMXz1vA)
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      For me it is **Cellular Automata**, and more precisely the **Game of Life**.\n
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          > That’s quite the claim.\n
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          **Yes**, it is, and as explained in the video the original author (and also the person explaining it) *admit* it is quite a claim, then proceed to demonstrate the veracity of the claim. I suggest you grab a cup of jo, settle in, and watch it. It addresses the points you bring up *directly*.\n
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          [EDIT: Re: Quite a Claim: Yes, and thus fitting the OP’s “mind-blowing” criteria for the thread :-)]\n
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          The *very* short answer to “are you immoral for purchasing a cell phone” is “*probably* yes”.\n
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          You’ve committed *reductio ad absurdum*.\n
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          Yes, most people are *probably* acting immorally and they are not even aware of it.\n
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          That doesn’t mean it is *a pointless exercise* to identify the immoral behavior and *strive* to reduce or eliminate it, even if it is impossible to completely do so.
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          You are (deliberately?) skipping over the part of *awareness*.\n
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          Take for example a person who is aware that they cannot act morally when making seemingly normal, banal decisions. For example, they may be aware that when they choose to buy a shiny new cell phone when they have an older-but-still-perfectly-working model, they *very likely* doing something immoral. Because they are aware of the moral implications of their choice, they can choose hold-off buying a new phone for as long as possible (a morally-positive choice) and *perhaps* - going a step further - even using that money they would have spent on a new phone to help another person in need directly.\n
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          *Most* people probably don’t contemplate the moral implications of the purchase of a new phone, *this is true* and I accept your position this. But it is clearly not “literally every person” as you have said, since it only takes a single person with awareness to disprove your statement. I am certain *at least* one such person exists (even if anecdotally), so I rely on the word “most” rather than “literally every”.
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          > I probably did a dozen immoral things before breakfast this morning.\n
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          Sure, certainly, yes, I’ll accept your admission at face value, **but** could you have done fewer?
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          I do not take issue with anything you said (your opinion is as valid as mine) - up until your last sentence, which piqued my interest.\n
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          You seem to be implying that Mr Singer’s “radical ideas” are weak, invalid, or beneath consideration because our society hasn’t embedded them yet. I would like to respond that I think the value of a radical idea cannot, and probably should not, be measured by how well society accepts it. For example, there are a some pretty famous, radical ideas from this rabbi a couple thousand years ago that have totally failed to be embedded in our society, yet his radical ideas arguably still have significant merit. I am thinking specifically of the radical idea of kindness and peace expressed in “turning the other cheek”, an idea we, as a society, have for all intents and purposes rejected.\n
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          Otherwise, I would also like to remind you that the OP just asked for ideas that blew our minds. Mr Singer’s idea, when I heard it for the first time, blew mine and I thought it fit the brief.
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    I am focusing on the “blow my mind” part, rather than the “beautiful” part of your question, but I am certain many philosophically-minded people would consider the following “beautiful”.\n
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    Peter Singer’s argument in “Famine, Affluence, and Morality (1972)” that *you and most everyone you know* are probably *immoral or evil* and you don’t even realize it. It really affected my ideas of how to *strive* to live.\n
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    Here is a good video explaining the idea in detail, worth 30m of your time.\n
    \n
    [Peter Singer - ordinary people are evil](https://youtu.be/KVl5kMXz1vA)
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      For me it is **Cellular Automata**, and more precisely the **Game of Life**.\n
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          I am focusing on the “blow my mind” part, rather than the “beautiful” part of your question, but I am certain many philosophically-minded people would consider the following “beautiful”.\n
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          You’ve committed *reductio ad absurdum*.\n
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          You are (deliberately?) skipping over the part of *awareness*.\n
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          > I probably did a dozen immoral things before breakfast this morning.\n
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          Sure, certainly, yes, I’ll accept your admission at face value, **but** could you have done fewer?
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          I do not take issue with anything you said (your opinion is as valid as mine) - up until your last sentence, which piqued my interest.\n
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          You seem to be implying that Mr Singer’s “radical ideas” are weak, invalid, or beneath consideration because our society hasn’t embedded them yet. I would like to respond that I think the value of a radical idea cannot, and probably should not, be measured by how well society accepts it. For example, there are a some pretty famous, radical ideas from this rabbi a couple thousand years ago that have totally failed to be embedded in our society, yet his radical ideas arguably still have significant merit. I am thinking specifically of the radical idea of kindness and peace expressed in “turning the other cheek”, an idea we, as a society, have for all intents and purposes rejected.\n
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    > That’s quite the claim.\n
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    **Yes**, it is, and as explained in the video the original author (and also the person explaining it) *admit* it is quite a claim, then proceed to demonstrate the veracity of the claim. I suggest you grab a cup of jo, settle in, and watch it. It addresses the points you bring up *directly*.\n
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    [EDIT: Re: Quite a Claim: Yes, and thus fitting the OP’s “mind-blowing” criteria for the thread :-)]\n
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    The *very* short answer to “are you immoral for purchasing a cell phone” is “*probably* yes”.\n
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    The proposition is not an easy one (it accepts it is extreme), but it is hard to deny when you march down the logic.
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      For me it is **Cellular Automata**, and more precisely the **Game of Life**.\n
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          I am focusing on the “blow my mind” part, rather than the “beautiful” part of your question, but I am certain many philosophically-minded people would consider the following “beautiful”.\n
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          Peter Singer’s argument in “Famine, Affluence, and Morality (1972)” that *you and most everyone you know* are probably *immoral or evil* and you don’t even realize it. It really affected my ideas of how to *strive* to live.\n
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          Here is a good video explaining the idea in detail, worth 30m of your time.\n
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          [Peter Singer - ordinary people are evil](https://youtu.be/KVl5kMXz1vA)
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          You’ve committed *reductio ad absurdum*.\n
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          Yes, most people are *probably* acting immorally and they are not even aware of it.\n
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          That doesn’t mean it is *a pointless exercise* to identify the immoral behavior and *strive* to reduce or eliminate it, even if it is impossible to completely do so.
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          You are (deliberately?) skipping over the part of *awareness*.\n
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          Take for example a person who is aware that they cannot act morally when making seemingly normal, banal decisions. For example, they may be aware that when they choose to buy a shiny new cell phone when they have an older-but-still-perfectly-working model, they *very likely* doing something immoral. Because they are aware of the moral implications of their choice, they can choose hold-off buying a new phone for as long as possible (a morally-positive choice) and *perhaps* - going a step further - even using that money they would have spent on a new phone to help another person in need directly.\n
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          > I probably did a dozen immoral things before breakfast this morning.\n
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          Sure, certainly, yes, I’ll accept your admission at face value, **but** could you have done fewer?
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          I do not take issue with anything you said (your opinion is as valid as mine) - up until your last sentence, which piqued my interest.\n
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          You seem to be implying that Mr Singer’s “radical ideas” are weak, invalid, or beneath consideration because our society hasn’t embedded them yet. I would like to respond that I think the value of a radical idea cannot, and probably should not, be measured by how well society accepts it. For example, there are a some pretty famous, radical ideas from this rabbi a couple thousand years ago that have totally failed to be embedded in our society, yet his radical ideas arguably still have significant merit. I am thinking specifically of the radical idea of kindness and peace expressed in “turning the other cheek”, an idea we, as a society, have for all intents and purposes rejected.\n
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    > That’s quite the claim.\n
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    **Yes**, it is, and as explained in the video the original author (and also the person explaining it) *admit* it is quite a claim, then proceed to demonstrate the veracity of the claim. I suggest you grab a cup of jo, settle in, and watch it. It addresses the points you bring up *directly*.\n
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    [EDIT: Re: Quite a Claim: Yes, and thus fitting the OP’s “mind-blowing” criteria for the thread :-)]\n
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    The *very* short answer to “are you immoral for purchasing a cell phone” is “*probably* yes”.\n
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    The proposition is not an easy one (it accepts it is extreme), but it is hard to deny when you march down the logic.
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      For me it is **Cellular Automata**, and more precisely the **Game of Life**.\n
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          I am focusing on the “blow my mind” part, rather than the “beautiful” part of your question, but I am certain many philosophically-minded people would consider the following “beautiful”.\n
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          Peter Singer’s argument in “Famine, Affluence, and Morality (1972)” that *you and most everyone you know* are probably *immoral or evil* and you don’t even realize it. It really affected my ideas of how to *strive* to live.\n
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          Here is a good video explaining the idea in detail, worth 30m of your time.\n
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          [Peter Singer - ordinary people are evil](https://youtu.be/KVl5kMXz1vA)
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          You’ve committed *reductio ad absurdum*.\n
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          Yes, most people are *probably* acting immorally and they are not even aware of it.\n
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          That doesn’t mean it is *a pointless exercise* to identify the immoral behavior and *strive* to reduce or eliminate it, even if it is impossible to completely do so.
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          You are (deliberately?) skipping over the part of *awareness*.\n
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          Take for example a person who is aware that they cannot act morally when making seemingly normal, banal decisions. For example, they may be aware that when they choose to buy a shiny new cell phone when they have an older-but-still-perfectly-working model, they *very likely* doing something immoral. Because they are aware of the moral implications of their choice, they can choose hold-off buying a new phone for as long as possible (a morally-positive choice) and *perhaps* - going a step further - even using that money they would have spent on a new phone to help another person in need directly.\n
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          > I probably did a dozen immoral things before breakfast this morning.\n
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          Sure, certainly, yes, I’ll accept your admission at face value, **but** could you have done fewer?
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          I do not take issue with anything you said (your opinion is as valid as mine) - up until your last sentence, which piqued my interest.\n
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    > That’s quite the claim.\n
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    **Yes**, it is, and as explained in the video the original author (and also the person explaining it) *admit* it is quite a claim, then proceed to demonstrate the veracity of the claim. I suggest you grab a cup of jo, settle in, and watch it. It addresses the points you bring up *directly*.\n
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    The *very* short answer to “are you immoral for purchasing a cell phone” is “*probably* yes”.\n
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      For me it is **Cellular Automata**, and more precisely the **Game of Life**.\n
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          I am focusing on the “blow my mind” part, rather than the “beautiful” part of your question, but I am certain many philosophically-minded people would consider the following “beautiful”.\n
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          Peter Singer’s argument in “Famine, Affluence, and Morality (1972)” that *you and most everyone you know* are probably *immoral or evil* and you don’t even realize it. It really affected my ideas of how to *strive* to live.\n
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          > That’s quite the claim.\n
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          **Yes**, it is, and as explained in the video the original author (and also the person explaining it) *admit* it is quite a claim, then proceed to demonstrate the veracity of the claim. I suggest you grab a cup of jo, settle in, and watch it. It addresses the points you bring up *directly*.\n
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          You are (deliberately?) skipping over the part of *awareness*.\n
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          > I probably did a dozen immoral things before breakfast this morning.\n
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          I do not take issue with anything you said (your opinion is as valid as mine) - up until your last sentence, which piqued my interest.\n
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    You’ve committed *reductio ad absurdum*.\n
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    That doesn’t mean it is *a pointless exercise* to identify the immoral behavior and *strive* to reduce or eliminate it, even if it is impossible to completely do so.
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      For me it is **Cellular Automata**, and more precisely the **Game of Life**.\n
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          I am focusing on the “blow my mind” part, rather than the “beautiful” part of your question, but I am certain many philosophically-minded people would consider the following “beautiful”.\n
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          Peter Singer’s argument in “Famine, Affluence, and Morality (1972)” that *you and most everyone you know* are probably *immoral or evil* and you don’t even realize it. It really affected my ideas of how to *strive* to live.\n
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          Here is a good video explaining the idea in detail, worth 30m of your time.\n
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          [Peter Singer - ordinary people are evil](https://youtu.be/KVl5kMXz1vA)
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          > That’s quite the claim.\n
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          **Yes**, it is, and as explained in the video the original author (and also the person explaining it) *admit* it is quite a claim, then proceed to demonstrate the veracity of the claim. I suggest you grab a cup of jo, settle in, and watch it. It addresses the points you bring up *directly*.\n
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          You are (deliberately?) skipping over the part of *awareness*.\n
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          Take for example a person who is aware that they cannot act morally when making seemingly normal, banal decisions. For example, they may be aware that when they choose to buy a shiny new cell phone when they have an older-but-still-perfectly-working model, they *very likely* doing something immoral. Because they are aware of the moral implications of their choice, they can choose hold-off buying a new phone for as long as possible (a morally-positive choice) and *perhaps* - going a step further - even using that money they would have spent on a new phone to help another person in need directly.\n
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          > I probably did a dozen immoral things before breakfast this morning.\n
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          Sure, certainly, yes, I’ll accept your admission at face value, **but** could you have done fewer?
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          I do not take issue with anything you said (your opinion is as valid as mine) - up until your last sentence, which piqued my interest.\n
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          You seem to be implying that Mr Singer’s “radical ideas” are weak, invalid, or beneath consideration because our society hasn’t embedded them yet. I would like to respond that I think the value of a radical idea cannot, and probably should not, be measured by how well society accepts it. For example, there are a some pretty famous, radical ideas from this rabbi a couple thousand years ago that have totally failed to be embedded in our society, yet his radical ideas arguably still have significant merit. I am thinking specifically of the radical idea of kindness and peace expressed in “turning the other cheek”, an idea we, as a society, have for all intents and purposes rejected.\n
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    You’ve committed *reductio ad absurdum*.\n
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    Yes, most people are *probably* acting immorally and they are not even aware of it.\n
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    That doesn’t mean it is *a pointless exercise* to identify the immoral behavior and *strive* to reduce or eliminate it, even if it is impossible to completely do so.
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      For me it is **Cellular Automata**, and more precisely the **Game of Life**.\n
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          I am focusing on the “blow my mind” part, rather than the “beautiful” part of your question, but I am certain many philosophically-minded people would consider the following “beautiful”.\n
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          Peter Singer’s argument in “Famine, Affluence, and Morality (1972)” that *you and most everyone you know* are probably *immoral or evil* and you don’t even realize it. It really affected my ideas of how to *strive* to live.\n
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          Here is a good video explaining the idea in detail, worth 30m of your time.\n
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          [Peter Singer - ordinary people are evil](https://youtu.be/KVl5kMXz1vA)
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          > That’s quite the claim.\n
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          **Yes**, it is, and as explained in the video the original author (and also the person explaining it) *admit* it is quite a claim, then proceed to demonstrate the veracity of the claim. I suggest you grab a cup of jo, settle in, and watch it. It addresses the points you bring up *directly*.\n
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          You are (deliberately?) skipping over the part of *awareness*.\n
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          > I probably did a dozen immoral things before breakfast this morning.\n
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          Sure, certainly, yes, I’ll accept your admission at face value, **but** could you have done fewer?
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          I do not take issue with anything you said (your opinion is as valid as mine) - up until your last sentence, which piqued my interest.\n
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          You seem to be implying that Mr Singer’s “radical ideas” are weak, invalid, or beneath consideration because our society hasn’t embedded them yet. I would like to respond that I think the value of a radical idea cannot, and probably should not, be measured by how well society accepts it. For example, there are a some pretty famous, radical ideas from this rabbi a couple thousand years ago that have totally failed to be embedded in our society, yet his radical ideas arguably still have significant merit. I am thinking specifically of the radical idea of kindness and peace expressed in “turning the other cheek”, an idea we, as a society, have for all intents and purposes rejected.\n
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    You’ve committed *reductio ad absurdum*.\n
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    Yes, most people are *probably* acting immorally and they are not even aware of it.\n
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    That doesn’t mean it is *a pointless exercise* to identify the immoral behavior and *strive* to reduce or eliminate it, even if it is impossible to completely do so.
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      For me it is **Cellular Automata**, and more precisely the **Game of Life**.\n
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          I am focusing on the “blow my mind” part, rather than the “beautiful” part of your question, but I am certain many philosophically-minded people would consider the following “beautiful”.\n
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          Peter Singer’s argument in “Famine, Affluence, and Morality (1972)” that *you and most everyone you know* are probably *immoral or evil* and you don’t even realize it. It really affected my ideas of how to *strive* to live.\n
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          Here is a good video explaining the idea in detail, worth 30m of your time.\n
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          > That’s quite the claim.\n
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          **Yes**, it is, and as explained in the video the original author (and also the person explaining it) *admit* it is quite a claim, then proceed to demonstrate the veracity of the claim. I suggest you grab a cup of jo, settle in, and watch it. It addresses the points you bring up *directly*.\n
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          You’ve committed *reductio ad absurdum*.\n
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          > I probably did a dozen immoral things before breakfast this morning.\n
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          Sure, certainly, yes, I’ll accept your admission at face value, **but** could you have done fewer?
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          I do not take issue with anything you said (your opinion is as valid as mine) - up until your last sentence, which piqued my interest.\n
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          You seem to be implying that Mr Singer’s “radical ideas” are weak, invalid, or beneath consideration because our society hasn’t embedded them yet. I would like to respond that I think the value of a radical idea cannot, and probably should not, be measured by how well society accepts it. For example, there are a some pretty famous, radical ideas from this rabbi a couple thousand years ago that have totally failed to be embedded in our society, yet his radical ideas arguably still have significant merit. I am thinking specifically of the radical idea of kindness and peace expressed in “turning the other cheek”, an idea we, as a society, have for all intents and purposes rejected.\n
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    You are (deliberately?) skipping over the part of *awareness*.\n
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    Take for example a person who is aware that they cannot act morally when making seemingly normal, banal decisions. For example, they may be aware that when they choose to buy a shiny new cell phone when they have an older-but-still-perfectly-working model, they *very likely* doing something immoral. Because they are aware of the moral implications of their choice, they can choose hold-off buying a new phone for as long as possible (a morally-positive choice) and *perhaps* - going a step further - even using that money they would have spent on a new phone to help another person in need directly.\n
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      For me it is **Cellular Automata**, and more precisely the **Game of Life**.\n
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          I am focusing on the “blow my mind” part, rather than the “beautiful” part of your question, but I am certain many philosophically-minded people would consider the following “beautiful”.\n
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          Peter Singer’s argument in “Famine, Affluence, and Morality (1972)” that *you and most everyone you know* are probably *immoral or evil* and you don’t even realize it. It really affected my ideas of how to *strive* to live.\n
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          Here is a good video explaining the idea in detail, worth 30m of your time.\n
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          [Peter Singer - ordinary people are evil](https://youtu.be/KVl5kMXz1vA)
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          > That’s quite the claim.\n
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          **Yes**, it is, and as explained in the video the original author (and also the person explaining it) *admit* it is quite a claim, then proceed to demonstrate the veracity of the claim. I suggest you grab a cup of jo, settle in, and watch it. It addresses the points you bring up *directly*.\n
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          You’ve committed *reductio ad absurdum*.\n
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          Yes, most people are *probably* acting immorally and they are not even aware of it.\n
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          That doesn’t mean it is *a pointless exercise* to identify the immoral behavior and *strive* to reduce or eliminate it, even if it is impossible to completely do so.
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          > I probably did a dozen immoral things before breakfast this morning.\n
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          Sure, certainly, yes, I’ll accept your admission at face value, **but** could you have done fewer?
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          I do not take issue with anything you said (your opinion is as valid as mine) - up until your last sentence, which piqued my interest.\n
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          You seem to be implying that Mr Singer’s “radical ideas” are weak, invalid, or beneath consideration because our society hasn’t embedded them yet. I would like to respond that I think the value of a radical idea cannot, and probably should not, be measured by how well society accepts it. For example, there are a some pretty famous, radical ideas from this rabbi a couple thousand years ago that have totally failed to be embedded in our society, yet his radical ideas arguably still have significant merit. I am thinking specifically of the radical idea of kindness and peace expressed in “turning the other cheek”, an idea we, as a society, have for all intents and purposes rejected.\n
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    You are (deliberately?) skipping over the part of *awareness*.\n
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    Take for example a person who is aware that they cannot act morally when making seemingly normal, banal decisions. For example, they may be aware that when they choose to buy a shiny new cell phone when they have an older-but-still-perfectly-working model, they *very likely* doing something immoral. Because they are aware of the moral implications of their choice, they can choose hold-off buying a new phone for as long as possible (a morally-positive choice) and *perhaps* - going a step further - even using that money they would have spent on a new phone to help another person in need directly.\n
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    *Most* people probably don’t contemplate the moral implications of the purchase of a new phone, *this is true* and I accept your position this. But it is clearly not “literally every person” as you have said, since it only takes a single person with awareness to disprove your statement. I am certain *at least* one such person exists (even if anecdotally), so I rely on the word “most” rather than “literally every”.
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          I am focusing on the “blow my mind” part, rather than the “beautiful” part of your question, but I am certain many philosophically-minded people would consider the following “beautiful”.\n
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          Peter Singer’s argument in “Famine, Affluence, and Morality (1972)” that *you and most everyone you know* are probably *immoral or evil* and you don’t even realize it. It really affected my ideas of how to *strive* to live.\n
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          Here is a good video explaining the idea in detail, worth 30m of your time.\n
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          [Peter Singer - ordinary people are evil](https://youtu.be/KVl5kMXz1vA)
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          > That’s quite the claim.\n
          \n
          **Yes**, it is, and as explained in the video the original author (and also the person explaining it) *admit* it is quite a claim, then proceed to demonstrate the veracity of the claim. I suggest you grab a cup of jo, settle in, and watch it. It addresses the points you bring up *directly*.\n
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          [EDIT: Re: Quite a Claim: Yes, and thus fitting the OP’s “mind-blowing” criteria for the thread :-)]\n
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          The *very* short answer to “are you immoral for purchasing a cell phone” is “*probably* yes”.\n
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          You’ve committed *reductio ad absurdum*.\n
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          Yes, most people are *probably* acting immorally and they are not even aware of it.\n
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          That doesn’t mean it is *a pointless exercise* to identify the immoral behavior and *strive* to reduce or eliminate it, even if it is impossible to completely do so.
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          > I probably did a dozen immoral things before breakfast this morning.\n
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          Sure, certainly, yes, I’ll accept your admission at face value, **but** could you have done fewer?
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          I do not take issue with anything you said (your opinion is as valid as mine) - up until your last sentence, which piqued my interest.\n
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          You seem to be implying that Mr Singer’s “radical ideas” are weak, invalid, or beneath consideration because our society hasn’t embedded them yet. I would like to respond that I think the value of a radical idea cannot, and probably should not, be measured by how well society accepts it. For example, there are a some pretty famous, radical ideas from this rabbi a couple thousand years ago that have totally failed to be embedded in our society, yet his radical ideas arguably still have significant merit. I am thinking specifically of the radical idea of kindness and peace expressed in “turning the other cheek”, an idea we, as a society, have for all intents and purposes rejected.\n
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    You are (deliberately?) skipping over the part of *awareness*.\n
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    Take for example a person who is aware that they cannot act morally when making seemingly normal, banal decisions. For example, they may be aware that when they choose to buy a shiny new cell phone when they have an older-but-still-perfectly-working model, they *very likely* doing something immoral. Because they are aware of the moral implications of their choice, they can choose hold-off buying a new phone for as long as possible (a morally-positive choice) and *perhaps* - going a step further - even using that money they would have spent on a new phone to help another person in need directly.\n
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    *Most* people probably don’t contemplate the moral implications of the purchase of a new phone, *this is true* and I accept your position this. But it is clearly not “literally every person” as you have said, since it only takes a single person with awareness to disprove your statement. I am certain *at least* one such person exists (even if anecdotally), so I rely on the word “most” rather than “literally every”.
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      For me it is **Cellular Automata**, and more precisely the **Game of Life**.\n
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          I am focusing on the “blow my mind” part, rather than the “beautiful” part of your question, but I am certain many philosophically-minded people would consider the following “beautiful”.\n
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          Peter Singer’s argument in “Famine, Affluence, and Morality (1972)” that *you and most everyone you know* are probably *immoral or evil* and you don’t even realize it. It really affected my ideas of how to *strive* to live.\n
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          Here is a good video explaining the idea in detail, worth 30m of your time.\n
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          [Peter Singer - ordinary people are evil](https://youtu.be/KVl5kMXz1vA)
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          > That’s quite the claim.\n
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          **Yes**, it is, and as explained in the video the original author (and also the person explaining it) *admit* it is quite a claim, then proceed to demonstrate the veracity of the claim. I suggest you grab a cup of jo, settle in, and watch it. It addresses the points you bring up *directly*.\n
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          [EDIT: Re: Quite a Claim: Yes, and thus fitting the OP’s “mind-blowing” criteria for the thread :-)]\n
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          The *very* short answer to “are you immoral for purchasing a cell phone” is “*probably* yes”.\n
          \n
          The proposition is not an easy one (it accepts it is extreme), but it is hard to deny when you march down the logic.
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          You’ve committed *reductio ad absurdum*.\n
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          Yes, most people are *probably* acting immorally and they are not even aware of it.\n
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          That doesn’t mean it is *a pointless exercise* to identify the immoral behavior and *strive* to reduce or eliminate it, even if it is impossible to completely do so.
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          You are (deliberately?) skipping over the part of *awareness*.\n
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          Take for example a person who is aware that they cannot act morally when making seemingly normal, banal decisions. For example, they may be aware that when they choose to buy a shiny new cell phone when they have an older-but-still-perfectly-working model, they *very likely* doing something immoral. Because they are aware of the moral implications of their choice, they can choose hold-off buying a new phone for as long as possible (a morally-positive choice) and *perhaps* - going a step further - even using that money they would have spent on a new phone to help another person in need directly.\n
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          I do not take issue with anything you said (your opinion is as valid as mine) - up until your last sentence, which piqued my interest.\n
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          You seem to be implying that Mr Singer’s “radical ideas” are weak, invalid, or beneath consideration because our society hasn’t embedded them yet. I would like to respond that I think the value of a radical idea cannot, and probably should not, be measured by how well society accepts it. For example, there are a some pretty famous, radical ideas from this rabbi a couple thousand years ago that have totally failed to be embedded in our society, yet his radical ideas arguably still have significant merit. I am thinking specifically of the radical idea of kindness and peace expressed in “turning the other cheek”, an idea we, as a society, have for all intents and purposes rejected.\n
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    > I probably did a dozen immoral things before breakfast this morning.\n
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    Sure, certainly, yes, I’ll accept your admission at face value, **but** could you have done fewer?
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      For me it is **Cellular Automata**, and more precisely the **Game of Life**.\n
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          I am focusing on the “blow my mind” part, rather than the “beautiful” part of your question, but I am certain many philosophically-minded people would consider the following “beautiful”.\n
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          Peter Singer’s argument in “Famine, Affluence, and Morality (1972)” that *you and most everyone you know* are probably *immoral or evil* and you don’t even realize it. It really affected my ideas of how to *strive* to live.\n
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          Here is a good video explaining the idea in detail, worth 30m of your time.\n
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          [Peter Singer - ordinary people are evil](https://youtu.be/KVl5kMXz1vA)
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          > That’s quite the claim.\n
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          **Yes**, it is, and as explained in the video the original author (and also the person explaining it) *admit* it is quite a claim, then proceed to demonstrate the veracity of the claim. I suggest you grab a cup of jo, settle in, and watch it. It addresses the points you bring up *directly*.\n
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          [EDIT: Re: Quite a Claim: Yes, and thus fitting the OP’s “mind-blowing” criteria for the thread :-)]\n
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          The *very* short answer to “are you immoral for purchasing a cell phone” is “*probably* yes”.\n
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          You’ve committed *reductio ad absurdum*.\n
          \n
          Yes, most people are *probably* acting immorally and they are not even aware of it.\n
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          That doesn’t mean it is *a pointless exercise* to identify the immoral behavior and *strive* to reduce or eliminate it, even if it is impossible to completely do so.
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          You are (deliberately?) skipping over the part of *awareness*.\n
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          Take for example a person who is aware that they cannot act morally when making seemingly normal, banal decisions. For example, they may be aware that when they choose to buy a shiny new cell phone when they have an older-but-still-perfectly-working model, they *very likely* doing something immoral. Because they are aware of the moral implications of their choice, they can choose hold-off buying a new phone for as long as possible (a morally-positive choice) and *perhaps* - going a step further - even using that money they would have spent on a new phone to help another person in need directly.\n
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          *Most* people probably don’t contemplate the moral implications of the purchase of a new phone, *this is true* and I accept your position this. But it is clearly not “literally every person” as you have said, since it only takes a single person with awareness to disprove your statement. I am certain *at least* one such person exists (even if anecdotally), so I rely on the word “most” rather than “literally every”.
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          I do not take issue with anything you said (your opinion is as valid as mine) - up until your last sentence, which piqued my interest.\n
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          You seem to be implying that Mr Singer’s “radical ideas” are weak, invalid, or beneath consideration because our society hasn’t embedded them yet. I would like to respond that I think the value of a radical idea cannot, and probably should not, be measured by how well society accepts it. For example, there are a some pretty famous, radical ideas from this rabbi a couple thousand years ago that have totally failed to be embedded in our society, yet his radical ideas arguably still have significant merit. I am thinking specifically of the radical idea of kindness and peace expressed in “turning the other cheek”, an idea we, as a society, have for all intents and purposes rejected.\n
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          Otherwise, I would also like to remind you that the OP just asked for ideas that blew our minds. Mr Singer’s idea, when I heard it for the first time, blew mine and I thought it fit the brief.
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    > I probably did a dozen immoral things before breakfast this morning.\n
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    Sure, certainly, yes, I’ll accept your admission at face value, **but** could you have done fewer?
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      For me it is **Cellular Automata**, and more precisely the **Game of Life**.\n
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          I am focusing on the “blow my mind” part, rather than the “beautiful” part of your question, but I am certain many philosophically-minded people would consider the following “beautiful”.\n
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          Peter Singer’s argument in “Famine, Affluence, and Morality (1972)” that *you and most everyone you know* are probably *immoral or evil* and you don’t even realize it. It really affected my ideas of how to *strive* to live.\n
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          Here is a good video explaining the idea in detail, worth 30m of your time.\n
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          [Peter Singer - ordinary people are evil](https://youtu.be/KVl5kMXz1vA)
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          > That’s quite the claim.\n
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          **Yes**, it is, and as explained in the video the original author (and also the person explaining it) *admit* it is quite a claim, then proceed to demonstrate the veracity of the claim. I suggest you grab a cup of jo, settle in, and watch it. It addresses the points you bring up *directly*.\n
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          [EDIT: Re: Quite a Claim: Yes, and thus fitting the OP’s “mind-blowing” criteria for the thread :-)]\n
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          The *very* short answer to “are you immoral for purchasing a cell phone” is “*probably* yes”.\n
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          You’ve committed *reductio ad absurdum*.\n
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          Yes, most people are *probably* acting immorally and they are not even aware of it.\n
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          That doesn’t mean it is *a pointless exercise* to identify the immoral behavior and *strive* to reduce or eliminate it, even if it is impossible to completely do so.
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          You are (deliberately?) skipping over the part of *awareness*.\n
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          Take for example a person who is aware that they cannot act morally when making seemingly normal, banal decisions. For example, they may be aware that when they choose to buy a shiny new cell phone when they have an older-but-still-perfectly-working model, they *very likely* doing something immoral. Because they are aware of the moral implications of their choice, they can choose hold-off buying a new phone for as long as possible (a morally-positive choice) and *perhaps* - going a step further - even using that money they would have spent on a new phone to help another person in need directly.\n
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          *Most* people probably don’t contemplate the moral implications of the purchase of a new phone, *this is true* and I accept your position this. But it is clearly not “literally every person” as you have said, since it only takes a single person with awareness to disprove your statement. I am certain *at least* one such person exists (even if anecdotally), so I rely on the word “most” rather than “literally every”.
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          I do not take issue with anything you said (your opinion is as valid as mine) - up until your last sentence, which piqued my interest.\n
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    > I probably did a dozen immoral things before breakfast this morning.\n
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    Sure, certainly, yes, I’ll accept your admission at face value, **but** could you have done fewer?
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      For me it is **Cellular Automata**, and more precisely the **Game of Life**.\n
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          I am focusing on the “blow my mind” part, rather than the “beautiful” part of your question, but I am certain many philosophically-minded people would consider the following “beautiful”.\n
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          Peter Singer’s argument in “Famine, Affluence, and Morality (1972)” that *you and most everyone you know* are probably *immoral or evil* and you don’t even realize it. It really affected my ideas of how to *strive* to live.\n
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          Here is a good video explaining the idea in detail, worth 30m of your time.\n
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          [Peter Singer - ordinary people are evil](https://youtu.be/KVl5kMXz1vA)
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          > That’s quite the claim.\n
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          **Yes**, it is, and as explained in the video the original author (and also the person explaining it) *admit* it is quite a claim, then proceed to demonstrate the veracity of the claim. I suggest you grab a cup of jo, settle in, and watch it. It addresses the points you bring up *directly*.\n
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          You’ve committed *reductio ad absurdum*.\n
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          That doesn’t mean it is *a pointless exercise* to identify the immoral behavior and *strive* to reduce or eliminate it, even if it is impossible to completely do so.
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          You are (deliberately?) skipping over the part of *awareness*.\n
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          > I probably did a dozen immoral things before breakfast this morning.\n
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    I do not take issue with anything you said (your opinion is as valid as mine) - up until your last sentence, which piqued my interest.\n
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    You seem to be implying that Mr Singer’s “radical ideas” are weak, invalid, or beneath consideration because our society hasn’t embedded them yet. I would like to respond that I think the value of a radical idea cannot, and probably should not, be measured by how well society accepts it. For example, there are a some pretty famous, radical ideas from this rabbi a couple thousand years ago that have totally failed to be embedded in our society, yet his radical ideas arguably still have significant merit. I am thinking specifically of the radical idea of kindness and peace expressed in “turning the other cheek”, an idea we, as a society, have for all intents and purposes rejected.\n
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    Otherwise, I would also like to remind you that the OP just asked for ideas that blew our minds. Mr Singer’s idea, when I heard it for the first time, blew mine and I thought it fit the brief.
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      For me it is **Cellular Automata**, and more precisely the **Game of Life**.\n
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          I am focusing on the “blow my mind” part, rather than the “beautiful” part of your question, but I am certain many philosophically-minded people would consider the following “beautiful”.\n
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          Peter Singer’s argument in “Famine, Affluence, and Morality (1972)” that *you and most everyone you know* are probably *immoral or evil* and you don’t even realize it. It really affected my ideas of how to *strive* to live.\n
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          Here is a good video explaining the idea in detail, worth 30m of your time.\n
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          [Peter Singer - ordinary people are evil](https://youtu.be/KVl5kMXz1vA)
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          > That’s quite the claim.\n
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          **Yes**, it is, and as explained in the video the original author (and also the person explaining it) *admit* it is quite a claim, then proceed to demonstrate the veracity of the claim. I suggest you grab a cup of jo, settle in, and watch it. It addresses the points you bring up *directly*.\n
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          The *very* short answer to “are you immoral for purchasing a cell phone” is “*probably* yes”.\n
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          You’ve committed *reductio ad absurdum*.\n
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          Yes, most people are *probably* acting immorally and they are not even aware of it.\n
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          That doesn’t mean it is *a pointless exercise* to identify the immoral behavior and *strive* to reduce or eliminate it, even if it is impossible to completely do so.
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          You are (deliberately?) skipping over the part of *awareness*.\n
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          > I probably did a dozen immoral things before breakfast this morning.\n
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    I do not take issue with anything you said (your opinion is as valid as mine) - up until your last sentence, which piqued my interest.\n
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    You seem to be implying that Mr Singer’s “radical ideas” are weak, invalid, or beneath consideration because our society hasn’t embedded them yet. I would like to respond that I think the value of a radical idea cannot, and probably should not, be measured by how well society accepts it. For example, there are a some pretty famous, radical ideas from this rabbi a couple thousand years ago that have totally failed to be embedded in our society, yet his radical ideas arguably still have significant merit. I am thinking specifically of the radical idea of kindness and peace expressed in “turning the other cheek”, an idea we, as a society, have for all intents and purposes rejected.\n
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    Otherwise, I would also like to remind you that the OP just asked for ideas that blew our minds. Mr Singer’s idea, when I heard it for the first time, blew mine and I thought it fit the brief.
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      For me it is **Cellular Automata**, and more precisely the **Game of Life**.\n
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          I am focusing on the “blow my mind” part, rather than the “beautiful” part of your question, but I am certain many philosophically-minded people would consider the following “beautiful”.\n
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          Peter Singer’s argument in “Famine, Affluence, and Morality (1972)” that *you and most everyone you know* are probably *immoral or evil* and you don’t even realize it. It really affected my ideas of how to *strive* to live.\n
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          Here is a good video explaining the idea in detail, worth 30m of your time.\n
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          > That’s quite the claim.\n
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          **Yes**, it is, and as explained in the video the original author (and also the person explaining it) *admit* it is quite a claim, then proceed to demonstrate the veracity of the claim. I suggest you grab a cup of jo, settle in, and watch it. It addresses the points you bring up *directly*.\n
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          You’ve committed *reductio ad absurdum*.\n
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          You are (deliberately?) skipping over the part of *awareness*.\n
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          > I probably did a dozen immoral things before breakfast this morning.\n
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    I do not take issue with anything you said (your opinion is as valid as mine) - up until your last sentence, which piqued my interest.\n
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    You seem to be implying that Mr Singer’s “radical ideas” are weak, invalid, or beneath consideration because our society hasn’t embedded them yet. I would like to respond that I think the value of a radical idea cannot, and probably should not, be measured by how well society accepts it. For example, there are a some pretty famous, radical ideas from this rabbi a couple thousand years ago that have totally failed to be embedded in our society, yet his radical ideas arguably still have significant merit. I am thinking specifically of the radical idea of kindness and peace expressed in “turning the other cheek”, an idea we, as a society, have for all intents and purposes rejected.\n
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    Otherwise, I would also like to remind you that the OP just asked for ideas that blew our minds. Mr Singer’s idea, when I heard it for the first time, blew mine and I thought it fit the brief.
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