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Components

21 Twig Components
81 Render Count
71 ms Render Time
12.0 MiB Memory Usage

Components

Name Metadata Render Count Render Time
settings_row_switch
"App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent"
components/_settings_row_switch.html.twig
15 2.29ms
date
"App\Twig\Components\DateComponent"
components/date.html.twig
8 1.82ms
user_avatar
"App\Twig\Components\UserAvatarComponent"
components/user_avatar.html.twig
7 5.30ms
user_inline
"App\Twig\Components\UserInlineComponent"
components/user_inline.html.twig
7 3.40ms
date_edited
"App\Twig\Components\DateEditedComponent"
components/date_edited.html.twig
7 0.76ms
vote
"App\Twig\Components\VoteComponent"
components/vote.html.twig
7 2.63ms
boost
"App\Twig\Components\BoostComponent"
components/boost.html.twig
7 5.41ms
entry_comment
"App\Twig\Components\EntryCommentComponent"
components/entry_comment.html.twig
6 43.55ms
user_settings_row_switch
"App\Twig\Components\UserSettingsRowSwitchComponent"
components/_user_settings_row_switch.html.twig
4 0.63ms
settings_row_enum
"App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowEnumComponent"
components/_settings_row_enum.html.twig
2 0.35ms
user_box
"App\Twig\Components\UserBoxComponent"
components/user_box.html.twig
1 8.64ms
user_actions
"App\Twig\Components\UserActionsComponent"
components/user_actions.html.twig
1 0.87ms
entry
"App\Twig\Components\EntryComponent"
components/_cached.html.twig
1 9.07ms
magazine_inline
"App\Twig\Components\MagazineInlineComponent"
components/magazine_inline.html.twig
1 0.17ms
related_magazines
"App\Twig\Components\RelatedMagazinesComponent"
components/_cached.html.twig
1 1.85ms
active_users
"App\Twig\Components\ActiveUsersComponent"
components/_cached.html.twig
1 0.22ms
related_categories
"App\Twig\Components\RelatedCategoriesComponent"
components/_cached.html.twig
1 1.25ms
related_posts
"App\Twig\Components\RelatedPostsComponent"
components/_cached.html.twig
1 1.31ms
related_entries
"App\Twig\Components\RelatedEntriesComponent"
components/_cached.html.twig
1 1.33ms
support_us_block
"App\Twig\Components\SupportUsBlock"
components/_cached.html.twig
1 0.19ms
featured_magazines
"App\Twig\Components\FeaturedMagazinesComponent"
components/_cached.html.twig
1 0.88ms

Render calls

user_box App\Twig\Components\UserBoxComponent 12.0 MiB 8.64 ms
Input props
[
  "user" => App\Entity\User {#261
    +avatar: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#241 …}
    +cover: null
    +email: "claycle@lemmy.world"
    +username: "@claycle@lemmy.world"
    +roles: []
    +followersCount: 0
    +homepage: "front"
    +about: "I am an independent film director and producer who likes to ride his motorcycle in dusty places."
    +lastActive: DateTime @1689185341 {#269
      date: 2023-07-12 20:09:01.0 +02:00
    }
    +markedForDeletionAt: null
    +fields: null
    +oauthGithubId: null
    +oauthGoogleId: null
    +oauthFacebookId: null
    +oauthKeycloakId: null
    +hideAdult: true
    +showSubscribedUsers: true
    +showSubscribedMagazines: true
    +showSubscribedDomains: true
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    +showProfileFollowings: true
    +markNewComments: false
    +notifyOnNewEntry: false
    +notifyOnNewEntryReply: false
    +notifyOnNewEntryCommentReply: false
    +notifyOnNewPost: false
    +notifyOnNewPostReply: false
    +notifyOnNewPostCommentReply: false
    +addMentionsEntries: false
    +addMentionsPosts: true
    +isBanned: false
    +isVerified: false
    +isDeleted: false
    +isBot: false
    +spamProtection: true
    +customCss: null
    +ignoreMagazinesCustomCss: false
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    +magazineOwnershipRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#228 …}
    +moderatorRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#217 …}
    +entries: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#175 …}
    +entryVotes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#147 …}
    +entryComments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#120 …}
    +entryCommentVotes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#90 …}
    +posts: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#63 …}
    +postVotes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#78 …}
    +postComments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2423 …}
    +postCommentVotes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1917 …}
    +subscriptions: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1771 …}
    +subscribedDomains: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1608 …}
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    +followers: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1790 …}
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    +blockers: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1860 …}
    +blockedMagazines: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2401 …}
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    +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1876 …}
    +awards: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1888 …}
    +subscribedCategories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1889 …}
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    -oAuth2UserConsents: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1970 …}
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    +apFollowersUrl: null
    +apInboxUrl: "https://lemmy.world/inbox"
    +apDomain: "lemmy.world"
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    +apDiscoverable: true
    +apManuallyApprovesFollowers: false
    +privateKey: null
    +publicKey: null
    +apFetchedAt: DateTime @1689185341 {#272
      date: 2023-07-12 20:09:01.0 +02:00
    }
    +apDeletedAt: null
    +apTimeoutAt: null
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    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689167480 {#275
      date: 2023-07-12 15:11:20.0 +02:00
    }
  }
  "stretchedLink" => false
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\UserBoxComponent {#1989
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    +avatar: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#241 …}
    +cover: null
    +email: "claycle@lemmy.world"
    +username: "@claycle@lemmy.world"
    +roles: []
    +followersCount: 0
    +homepage: "front"
    +about: "I am an independent film director and producer who likes to ride his motorcycle in dusty places."
    +lastActive: DateTime @1689185341 {#269
      date: 2023-07-12 20:09:01.0 +02:00
    }
    +markedForDeletionAt: null
    +fields: null
    +oauthGithubId: null
    +oauthGoogleId: null
    +oauthFacebookId: null
    +oauthKeycloakId: null
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    +showSubscribedUsers: true
    +showSubscribedMagazines: true
    +showSubscribedDomains: true
    +preferredLanguages: []
    +featuredMagazines: null
    +showProfileSubscriptions: true
    +showProfileFollowings: true
    +markNewComments: false
    +notifyOnNewEntry: false
    +notifyOnNewEntryReply: false
    +notifyOnNewEntryCommentReply: false
    +notifyOnNewPost: false
    +notifyOnNewPostReply: false
    +notifyOnNewPostCommentReply: false
    +addMentionsEntries: false
    +addMentionsPosts: true
    +isBanned: false
    +isVerified: false
    +isDeleted: false
    +isBot: false
    +spamProtection: true
    +customCss: null
    +ignoreMagazinesCustomCss: false
    +moderatorTokens: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#232 …}
    +magazineOwnershipRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#228 …}
    +moderatorRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#217 …}
    +entries: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#175 …}
    +entryVotes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#147 …}
    +entryComments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#120 …}
    +entryCommentVotes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#90 …}
    +posts: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#63 …}
    +postVotes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#78 …}
    +postComments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2423 …}
    +postCommentVotes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1917 …}
    +subscriptions: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1771 …}
    +subscribedDomains: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1608 …}
    +follows: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1832 …}
    +followers: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1790 …}
    +blocks: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1799 …}
    +blockers: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1860 …}
    +blockedMagazines: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2401 …}
    +blockedDomains: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2414 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1834 …}
    +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1887 …}
    +violations: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2482 …}
    +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1876 …}
    +awards: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1888 …}
    +subscribedCategories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1889 …}
    +categories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1944 …}
    -id: 24984
    -password: "$2y$13$NXMGjVEzVyZHg4LQ89jXzOYynqY6.hB4n3oRRy/ak/7kQiZXPA/b2"
    -totpSecret: null
    -totpBackupCodes: []
    -oAuth2UserConsents: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1970 …}
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    +apProfileId: "https://lemmy.world/u/claycle"
    +apPublicUrl: "https://lemmy.world/u/claycle"
    +apFollowersUrl: null
    +apInboxUrl: "https://lemmy.world/inbox"
    +apDomain: "lemmy.world"
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    +apDiscoverable: true
    +apManuallyApprovesFollowers: false
    +privateKey: null
    +publicKey: null
    +apFetchedAt: DateTime @1689185341 {#272
      date: 2023-07-12 20:09:01.0 +02:00
    }
    +apDeletedAt: null
    +apTimeoutAt: null
    +visibility: "visible             "
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689167480 {#275
      date: 2023-07-12 15:11:20.0 +02:00
    }
  }
  +stretchedLink: false
}
user_avatar App\Twig\Components\UserAvatarComponent 12.0 MiB 2.40 ms
Input props
[
  "user" => App\Entity\User {#261
    +avatar: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#241 …}
    +cover: null
    +email: "claycle@lemmy.world"
    +username: "@claycle@lemmy.world"
    +roles: []
    +followersCount: 0
    +homepage: "front"
    +about: "I am an independent film director and producer who likes to ride his motorcycle in dusty places."
    +lastActive: DateTime @1689185341 {#269
      date: 2023-07-12 20:09:01.0 +02:00
    }
    +markedForDeletionAt: null
    +fields: null
    +oauthGithubId: null
    +oauthGoogleId: null
    +oauthFacebookId: null
    +oauthKeycloakId: null
    +hideAdult: true
    +showSubscribedUsers: true
    +showSubscribedMagazines: true
    +showSubscribedDomains: true
    +preferredLanguages: []
    +featuredMagazines: null
    +showProfileSubscriptions: true
    +showProfileFollowings: true
    +markNewComments: false
    +notifyOnNewEntry: false
    +notifyOnNewEntryReply: false
    +notifyOnNewEntryCommentReply: false
    +notifyOnNewPost: false
    +notifyOnNewPostReply: false
    +notifyOnNewPostCommentReply: false
    +addMentionsEntries: false
    +addMentionsPosts: true
    +isBanned: false
    +isVerified: false
    +isDeleted: false
    +isBot: false
    +spamProtection: true
    +customCss: null
    +ignoreMagazinesCustomCss: false
    +moderatorTokens: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#232 …}
    +magazineOwnershipRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#228 …}
    +moderatorRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#217 …}
    +entries: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#175 …}
    +entryVotes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#147 …}
    +entryComments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#120 …}
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    +postComments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2423 …}
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    +subscriptions: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1771 …}
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    +publicKey: null
    +apFetchedAt: DateTime @1689185341 {#272
      date: 2023-07-12 20:09:01.0 +02:00
    }
    +apDeletedAt: null
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    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689167480 {#275
      date: 2023-07-12 15:11:20.0 +02:00
    }
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  "width" => 100
  "height" => 100
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\UserAvatarComponent {#2632
  +width: 100
  +height: 100
  +user: App\Entity\User {#261
    +avatar: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#241 …}
    +cover: null
    +email: "claycle@lemmy.world"
    +username: "@claycle@lemmy.world"
    +roles: []
    +followersCount: 0
    +homepage: "front"
    +about: "I am an independent film director and producer who likes to ride his motorcycle in dusty places."
    +lastActive: DateTime @1689185341 {#269
      date: 2023-07-12 20:09:01.0 +02:00
    }
    +markedForDeletionAt: null
    +fields: null
    +oauthGithubId: null
    +oauthGoogleId: null
    +oauthFacebookId: null
    +oauthKeycloakId: null
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    +showSubscribedMagazines: true
    +showSubscribedDomains: true
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      date: 2023-07-12 15:11:20.0 +02:00
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user_actions App\Twig\Components\UserActionsComponent 12.0 MiB 0.87 ms
Input props
[
  "user" => App\Entity\User {#261
    +avatar: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#241 …}
    +cover: null
    +email: "claycle@lemmy.world"
    +username: "@claycle@lemmy.world"
    +roles: []
    +followersCount: 0
    +homepage: "front"
    +about: "I am an independent film director and producer who likes to ride his motorcycle in dusty places."
    +lastActive: DateTime @1689185341 {#269
      date: 2023-07-12 20:09:01.0 +02:00
    }
    +markedForDeletionAt: null
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      date: 2023-07-12 20:09:01.0 +02:00
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      date: 2023-07-12 15:11:20.0 +02:00
    }
  }
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\UserActionsComponent {#2708
  +user: App\Entity\User {#261
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    +cover: null
    +email: "claycle@lemmy.world"
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        3. **Not regarding using or support for Lemmy**: [context](https://lemmy.ml/post/1223478), find help in the list of support alternatives below\n
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        ~Icon~ ~by~ ~@Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de~
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      For me it is **Cellular Automata**, and more precisely the **Game of Life**.\n
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          I am focusing on the “blow my mind” part, rather than the “beautiful” part of your question, but I am certain many philosophically-minded people would consider the following “beautiful”.\n
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          Peter Singer’s argument in “Famine, Affluence, and Morality (1972)” that *you and most everyone you know* are probably *immoral or evil* and you don’t even realize it. It really affected my ideas of how to *strive* to live.\n
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          Here is a good video explaining the idea in detail, worth 30m of your time.\n
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          [Peter Singer - ordinary people are evil](https://youtu.be/KVl5kMXz1vA)
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          > That’s quite the claim.\n
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          **Yes**, it is, and as explained in the video the original author (and also the person explaining it) *admit* it is quite a claim, then proceed to demonstrate the veracity of the claim. I suggest you grab a cup of jo, settle in, and watch it. It addresses the points you bring up *directly*.\n
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          [EDIT: Re: Quite a Claim: Yes, and thus fitting the OP’s “mind-blowing” criteria for the thread :-)]\n
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          The *very* short answer to “are you immoral for purchasing a cell phone” is “*probably* yes”.\n
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          You’ve committed *reductio ad absurdum*.\n
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          Yes, most people are *probably* acting immorally and they are not even aware of it.\n
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          That doesn’t mean it is *a pointless exercise* to identify the immoral behavior and *strive* to reduce or eliminate it, even if it is impossible to completely do so.
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          You are (deliberately?) skipping over the part of *awareness*.\n
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          > I probably did a dozen immoral things before breakfast this morning.\n
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          Sure, certainly, yes, I’ll accept your admission at face value, **but** could you have done fewer?
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          I do not take issue with anything you said (your opinion is as valid as mine) - up until your last sentence, which piqued my interest.\n
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          You seem to be implying that Mr Singer’s “radical ideas” are weak, invalid, or beneath consideration because our society hasn’t embedded them yet. I would like to respond that I think the value of a radical idea cannot, and probably should not, be measured by how well society accepts it. For example, there are a some pretty famous, radical ideas from this rabbi a couple thousand years ago that have totally failed to be embedded in our society, yet his radical ideas arguably still have significant merit. I am thinking specifically of the radical idea of kindness and peace expressed in “turning the other cheek”, an idea we, as a society, have for all intents and purposes rejected.\n
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          I am focusing on the “blow my mind” part, rather than the “beautiful” part of your question, but I am certain many philosophically-minded people would consider the following “beautiful”.\n
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          Peter Singer’s argument in “Famine, Affluence, and Morality (1972)” that *you and most everyone you know* are probably *immoral or evil* and you don’t even realize it. It really affected my ideas of how to *strive* to live.\n
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          Here is a good video explaining the idea in detail, worth 30m of your time.\n
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          > That’s quite the claim.\n
          \n
          **Yes**, it is, and as explained in the video the original author (and also the person explaining it) *admit* it is quite a claim, then proceed to demonstrate the veracity of the claim. I suggest you grab a cup of jo, settle in, and watch it. It addresses the points you bring up *directly*.\n
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          You’ve committed *reductio ad absurdum*.\n
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          You are (deliberately?) skipping over the part of *awareness*.\n
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          Take for example a person who is aware that they cannot act morally when making seemingly normal, banal decisions. For example, they may be aware that when they choose to buy a shiny new cell phone when they have an older-but-still-perfectly-working model, they *very likely* doing something immoral. Because they are aware of the moral implications of their choice, they can choose hold-off buying a new phone for as long as possible (a morally-positive choice) and *perhaps* - going a step further - even using that money they would have spent on a new phone to help another person in need directly.\n
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          > I probably did a dozen immoral things before breakfast this morning.\n
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          Sure, certainly, yes, I’ll accept your admission at face value, **but** could you have done fewer?
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          I do not take issue with anything you said (your opinion is as valid as mine) - up until your last sentence, which piqued my interest.\n
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          You seem to be implying that Mr Singer’s “radical ideas” are weak, invalid, or beneath consideration because our society hasn’t embedded them yet. I would like to respond that I think the value of a radical idea cannot, and probably should not, be measured by how well society accepts it. For example, there are a some pretty famous, radical ideas from this rabbi a couple thousand years ago that have totally failed to be embedded in our society, yet his radical ideas arguably still have significant merit. I am thinking specifically of the radical idea of kindness and peace expressed in “turning the other cheek”, an idea we, as a society, have for all intents and purposes rejected.\n
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          I am focusing on the “blow my mind” part, rather than the “beautiful” part of your question, but I am certain many philosophically-minded people would consider the following “beautiful”.\n
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          Peter Singer’s argument in “Famine, Affluence, and Morality (1972)” that *you and most everyone you know* are probably *immoral or evil* and you don’t even realize it. It really affected my ideas of how to *strive* to live.\n
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          > That’s quite the claim.\n
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          **Yes**, it is, and as explained in the video the original author (and also the person explaining it) *admit* it is quite a claim, then proceed to demonstrate the veracity of the claim. I suggest you grab a cup of jo, settle in, and watch it. It addresses the points you bring up *directly*.\n
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          You’ve committed *reductio ad absurdum*.\n
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          That doesn’t mean it is *a pointless exercise* to identify the immoral behavior and *strive* to reduce or eliminate it, even if it is impossible to completely do so.
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          You are (deliberately?) skipping over the part of *awareness*.\n
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          Take for example a person who is aware that they cannot act morally when making seemingly normal, banal decisions. For example, they may be aware that when they choose to buy a shiny new cell phone when they have an older-but-still-perfectly-working model, they *very likely* doing something immoral. Because they are aware of the moral implications of their choice, they can choose hold-off buying a new phone for as long as possible (a morally-positive choice) and *perhaps* - going a step further - even using that money they would have spent on a new phone to help another person in need directly.\n
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          > I probably did a dozen immoral things before breakfast this morning.\n
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          Sure, certainly, yes, I’ll accept your admission at face value, **but** could you have done fewer?
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          I do not take issue with anything you said (your opinion is as valid as mine) - up until your last sentence, which piqued my interest.\n
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          You seem to be implying that Mr Singer’s “radical ideas” are weak, invalid, or beneath consideration because our society hasn’t embedded them yet. I would like to respond that I think the value of a radical idea cannot, and probably should not, be measured by how well society accepts it. For example, there are a some pretty famous, radical ideas from this rabbi a couple thousand years ago that have totally failed to be embedded in our society, yet his radical ideas arguably still have significant merit. I am thinking specifically of the radical idea of kindness and peace expressed in “turning the other cheek”, an idea we, as a society, have for all intents and purposes rejected.\n
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      For me it is **Cellular Automata**, and more precisely the **Game of Life**.\n
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      There is colonization, reproduction, evolution, and sometimes even [space flight](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IK7nBOLYzdE)!
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          I am focusing on the “blow my mind” part, rather than the “beautiful” part of your question, but I am certain many philosophically-minded people would consider the following “beautiful”.\n
          \n
          Peter Singer’s argument in “Famine, Affluence, and Morality (1972)” that *you and most everyone you know* are probably *immoral or evil* and you don’t even realize it. It really affected my ideas of how to *strive* to live.\n
          \n
          Here is a good video explaining the idea in detail, worth 30m of your time.\n
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          [Peter Singer - ordinary people are evil](https://youtu.be/KVl5kMXz1vA)
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          > That’s quite the claim.\n
          \n
          **Yes**, it is, and as explained in the video the original author (and also the person explaining it) *admit* it is quite a claim, then proceed to demonstrate the veracity of the claim. I suggest you grab a cup of jo, settle in, and watch it. It addresses the points you bring up *directly*.\n
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          [EDIT: Re: Quite a Claim: Yes, and thus fitting the OP’s “mind-blowing” criteria for the thread :-)]\n
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          The *very* short answer to “are you immoral for purchasing a cell phone” is “*probably* yes”.\n
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          You’ve committed *reductio ad absurdum*.\n
          \n
          Yes, most people are *probably* acting immorally and they are not even aware of it.\n
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          That doesn’t mean it is *a pointless exercise* to identify the immoral behavior and *strive* to reduce or eliminate it, even if it is impossible to completely do so.
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          You are (deliberately?) skipping over the part of *awareness*.\n
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          Take for example a person who is aware that they cannot act morally when making seemingly normal, banal decisions. For example, they may be aware that when they choose to buy a shiny new cell phone when they have an older-but-still-perfectly-working model, they *very likely* doing something immoral. Because they are aware of the moral implications of their choice, they can choose hold-off buying a new phone for as long as possible (a morally-positive choice) and *perhaps* - going a step further - even using that money they would have spent on a new phone to help another person in need directly.\n
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          *Most* people probably don’t contemplate the moral implications of the purchase of a new phone, *this is true* and I accept your position this. But it is clearly not “literally every person” as you have said, since it only takes a single person with awareness to disprove your statement. I am certain *at least* one such person exists (even if anecdotally), so I rely on the word “most” rather than “literally every”.
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          > I probably did a dozen immoral things before breakfast this morning.\n
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          Sure, certainly, yes, I’ll accept your admission at face value, **but** could you have done fewer?
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          I do not take issue with anything you said (your opinion is as valid as mine) - up until your last sentence, which piqued my interest.\n
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          You seem to be implying that Mr Singer’s “radical ideas” are weak, invalid, or beneath consideration because our society hasn’t embedded them yet. I would like to respond that I think the value of a radical idea cannot, and probably should not, be measured by how well society accepts it. For example, there are a some pretty famous, radical ideas from this rabbi a couple thousand years ago that have totally failed to be embedded in our society, yet his radical ideas arguably still have significant merit. I am thinking specifically of the radical idea of kindness and peace expressed in “turning the other cheek”, an idea we, as a society, have for all intents and purposes rejected.\n
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          I am focusing on the “blow my mind” part, rather than the “beautiful” part of your question, but I am certain many philosophically-minded people would consider the following “beautiful”.\n
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          Peter Singer’s argument in “Famine, Affluence, and Morality (1972)” that *you and most everyone you know* are probably *immoral or evil* and you don’t even realize it. It really affected my ideas of how to *strive* to live.\n
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          [Peter Singer - ordinary people are evil](https://youtu.be/KVl5kMXz1vA)
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          > That’s quite the claim.\n
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          You’ve committed *reductio ad absurdum*.\n
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          You are (deliberately?) skipping over the part of *awareness*.\n
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          *Most* people probably don’t contemplate the moral implications of the purchase of a new phone, *this is true* and I accept your position this. But it is clearly not “literally every person” as you have said, since it only takes a single person with awareness to disprove your statement. I am certain *at least* one such person exists (even if anecdotally), so I rely on the word “most” rather than “literally every”.
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          > I probably did a dozen immoral things before breakfast this morning.\n
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          Sure, certainly, yes, I’ll accept your admission at face value, **but** could you have done fewer?
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          I do not take issue with anything you said (your opinion is as valid as mine) - up until your last sentence, which piqued my interest.\n
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          You seem to be implying that Mr Singer’s “radical ideas” are weak, invalid, or beneath consideration because our society hasn’t embedded them yet. I would like to respond that I think the value of a radical idea cannot, and probably should not, be measured by how well society accepts it. For example, there are a some pretty famous, radical ideas from this rabbi a couple thousand years ago that have totally failed to be embedded in our society, yet his radical ideas arguably still have significant merit. I am thinking specifically of the radical idea of kindness and peace expressed in “turning the other cheek”, an idea we, as a society, have for all intents and purposes rejected.\n
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          I am focusing on the “blow my mind” part, rather than the “beautiful” part of your question, but I am certain many philosophically-minded people would consider the following “beautiful”.\n
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          Peter Singer’s argument in “Famine, Affluence, and Morality (1972)” that *you and most everyone you know* are probably *immoral or evil* and you don’t even realize it. It really affected my ideas of how to *strive* to live.\n
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          > That’s quite the claim.\n
          \n
          **Yes**, it is, and as explained in the video the original author (and also the person explaining it) *admit* it is quite a claim, then proceed to demonstrate the veracity of the claim. I suggest you grab a cup of jo, settle in, and watch it. It addresses the points you bring up *directly*.\n
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          You’ve committed *reductio ad absurdum*.\n
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          Yes, most people are *probably* acting immorally and they are not even aware of it.\n
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          That doesn’t mean it is *a pointless exercise* to identify the immoral behavior and *strive* to reduce or eliminate it, even if it is impossible to completely do so.
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          You are (deliberately?) skipping over the part of *awareness*.\n
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          Take for example a person who is aware that they cannot act morally when making seemingly normal, banal decisions. For example, they may be aware that when they choose to buy a shiny new cell phone when they have an older-but-still-perfectly-working model, they *very likely* doing something immoral. Because they are aware of the moral implications of their choice, they can choose hold-off buying a new phone for as long as possible (a morally-positive choice) and *perhaps* - going a step further - even using that money they would have spent on a new phone to help another person in need directly.\n
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          *Most* people probably don’t contemplate the moral implications of the purchase of a new phone, *this is true* and I accept your position this. But it is clearly not “literally every person” as you have said, since it only takes a single person with awareness to disprove your statement. I am certain *at least* one such person exists (even if anecdotally), so I rely on the word “most” rather than “literally every”.
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          > I probably did a dozen immoral things before breakfast this morning.\n
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          Sure, certainly, yes, I’ll accept your admission at face value, **but** could you have done fewer?
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          I do not take issue with anything you said (your opinion is as valid as mine) - up until your last sentence, which piqued my interest.\n
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          You seem to be implying that Mr Singer’s “radical ideas” are weak, invalid, or beneath consideration because our society hasn’t embedded them yet. I would like to respond that I think the value of a radical idea cannot, and probably should not, be measured by how well society accepts it. For example, there are a some pretty famous, radical ideas from this rabbi a couple thousand years ago that have totally failed to be embedded in our society, yet his radical ideas arguably still have significant merit. I am thinking specifically of the radical idea of kindness and peace expressed in “turning the other cheek”, an idea we, as a society, have for all intents and purposes rejected.\n
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          Otherwise, I would also like to remind you that the OP just asked for ideas that blew our minds. Mr Singer’s idea, when I heard it for the first time, blew mine and I thought it fit the brief.
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        For me it is **Cellular Automata**, and more precisely the **Game of Life**.\n
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        Imagine a giant Excel spreadsheet where the cells are randomly chosen to be either “alive” or “dead”. Each cell then follows a handful of simple rules.\n
        \n
        For example, if a cell is “alive” but has less than 2 “alive” neighbors it “dies” by under-population. If the cell is “alive” and has more than three “alive” neighbors it “dies” from over-population, etc.\n
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        Then you sit back and just watch things play out. It turns out that these basic rules at the individual level lead to incredibly complex behaviors at the community level when you zoom out.\n
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        It kinda, sorta, maybe resembles… life.\n
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        There is colonization, reproduction, evolution, and sometimes even [space flight](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IK7nBOLYzdE)!
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            > That’s quite the claim.\n
            \n
            **Yes**, it is, and as explained in the video the original author (and also the person explaining it) *admit* it is quite a claim, then proceed to demonstrate the veracity of the claim. I suggest you grab a cup of jo, settle in, and watch it. It addresses the points you bring up *directly*.\n
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            The *very* short answer to “are you immoral for purchasing a cell phone” is “*probably* yes”.\n
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            You’ve committed *reductio ad absurdum*.\n
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            Yes, most people are *probably* acting immorally and they are not even aware of it.\n
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            That doesn’t mean it is *a pointless exercise* to identify the immoral behavior and *strive* to reduce or eliminate it, even if it is impossible to completely do so.
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            You are (deliberately?) skipping over the part of *awareness*.\n
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            Take for example a person who is aware that they cannot act morally when making seemingly normal, banal decisions. For example, they may be aware that when they choose to buy a shiny new cell phone when they have an older-but-still-perfectly-working model, they *very likely* doing something immoral. Because they are aware of the moral implications of their choice, they can choose hold-off buying a new phone for as long as possible (a morally-positive choice) and *perhaps* - going a step further - even using that money they would have spent on a new phone to help another person in need directly.\n
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            *Most* people probably don’t contemplate the moral implications of the purchase of a new phone, *this is true* and I accept your position this. But it is clearly not “literally every person” as you have said, since it only takes a single person with awareness to disprove your statement. I am certain *at least* one such person exists (even if anecdotally), so I rely on the word “most” rather than “literally every”.
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            > I probably did a dozen immoral things before breakfast this morning.\n
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            Sure, certainly, yes, I’ll accept your admission at face value, **but** could you have done fewer?
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            I do not take issue with anything you said (your opinion is as valid as mine) - up until your last sentence, which piqued my interest.\n
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            You seem to be implying that Mr Singer’s “radical ideas” are weak, invalid, or beneath consideration because our society hasn’t embedded them yet. I would like to respond that I think the value of a radical idea cannot, and probably should not, be measured by how well society accepts it. For example, there are a some pretty famous, radical ideas from this rabbi a couple thousand years ago that have totally failed to be embedded in our society, yet his radical ideas arguably still have significant merit. I am thinking specifically of the radical idea of kindness and peace expressed in “turning the other cheek”, an idea we, as a society, have for all intents and purposes rejected.\n
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            Otherwise, I would also like to remind you that the OP just asked for ideas that blew our minds. Mr Singer’s idea, when I heard it for the first time, blew mine and I thought it fit the brief.
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      I am focusing on the “blow my mind” part, rather than the “beautiful” part of your question, but I am certain many philosophically-minded people would consider the following “beautiful”.\n
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            > That’s quite the claim.\n
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            You’ve committed *reductio ad absurdum*.\n
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            Yes, most people are *probably* acting immorally and they are not even aware of it.\n
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            That doesn’t mean it is *a pointless exercise* to identify the immoral behavior and *strive* to reduce or eliminate it, even if it is impossible to completely do so.
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            You are (deliberately?) skipping over the part of *awareness*.\n
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            Take for example a person who is aware that they cannot act morally when making seemingly normal, banal decisions. For example, they may be aware that when they choose to buy a shiny new cell phone when they have an older-but-still-perfectly-working model, they *very likely* doing something immoral. Because they are aware of the moral implications of their choice, they can choose hold-off buying a new phone for as long as possible (a morally-positive choice) and *perhaps* - going a step further - even using that money they would have spent on a new phone to help another person in need directly.\n
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            *Most* people probably don’t contemplate the moral implications of the purchase of a new phone, *this is true* and I accept your position this. But it is clearly not “literally every person” as you have said, since it only takes a single person with awareness to disprove your statement. I am certain *at least* one such person exists (even if anecdotally), so I rely on the word “most” rather than “literally every”.
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            > I probably did a dozen immoral things before breakfast this morning.\n
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            Sure, certainly, yes, I’ll accept your admission at face value, **but** could you have done fewer?
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            I do not take issue with anything you said (your opinion is as valid as mine) - up until your last sentence, which piqued my interest.\n
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            You seem to be implying that Mr Singer’s “radical ideas” are weak, invalid, or beneath consideration because our society hasn’t embedded them yet. I would like to respond that I think the value of a radical idea cannot, and probably should not, be measured by how well society accepts it. For example, there are a some pretty famous, radical ideas from this rabbi a couple thousand years ago that have totally failed to be embedded in our society, yet his radical ideas arguably still have significant merit. I am thinking specifically of the radical idea of kindness and peace expressed in “turning the other cheek”, an idea we, as a society, have for all intents and purposes rejected.\n
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            Otherwise, I would also like to remind you that the OP just asked for ideas that blew our minds. Mr Singer’s idea, when I heard it for the first time, blew mine and I thought it fit the brief.
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      I am focusing on the “blow my mind” part, rather than the “beautiful” part of your question, but I am certain many philosophically-minded people would consider the following “beautiful”.\n
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      Peter Singer’s argument in “Famine, Affluence, and Morality (1972)” that *you and most everyone you know* are probably *immoral or evil* and you don’t even realize it. It really affected my ideas of how to *strive* to live.\n
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      Here is a good video explaining the idea in detail, worth 30m of your time.\n
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      [Peter Singer - ordinary people are evil](https://youtu.be/KVl5kMXz1vA)
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          \n
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          If your post meets the following criteria, it’s welcome here!\n
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          2. Not offensive: at this point, we do not have the bandwidth to moderate overtly political discussions\n
          3. **Not regarding using or support for Lemmy**: [context](https://lemmy.ml/post/1223478), find help in the list of support alternatives below\n
          4. Not ad nauseam inducing: please make sure it is a question that would be new to most members\n
          5. [An actual topic of discussion](https://lemmy.ml/post/1239589)\n
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          Support alternatives:\n
          \n
          - [!lemmy_support@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/lemmy_support)\n
          - [!nostupidlemmyquestions@lemmy.dbzer0.com](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/nostupidlemmyquestions)\n
          - [!selfhosted@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/selfhosted)\n
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          ~Icon~ ~by~ ~@Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de~
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        For me it is **Cellular Automata**, and more precisely the **Game of Life**.\n
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        There is colonization, reproduction, evolution, and sometimes even [space flight](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IK7nBOLYzdE)!
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            > That’s quite the claim.\n
            \n
            **Yes**, it is, and as explained in the video the original author (and also the person explaining it) *admit* it is quite a claim, then proceed to demonstrate the veracity of the claim. I suggest you grab a cup of jo, settle in, and watch it. It addresses the points you bring up *directly*.\n
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            You’ve committed *reductio ad absurdum*.\n
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            Yes, most people are *probably* acting immorally and they are not even aware of it.\n
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            That doesn’t mean it is *a pointless exercise* to identify the immoral behavior and *strive* to reduce or eliminate it, even if it is impossible to completely do so.
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            You are (deliberately?) skipping over the part of *awareness*.\n
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            *Most* people probably don’t contemplate the moral implications of the purchase of a new phone, *this is true* and I accept your position this. But it is clearly not “literally every person” as you have said, since it only takes a single person with awareness to disprove your statement. I am certain *at least* one such person exists (even if anecdotally), so I rely on the word “most” rather than “literally every”.
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            > I probably did a dozen immoral things before breakfast this morning.\n
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            Sure, certainly, yes, I’ll accept your admission at face value, **but** could you have done fewer?
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            I do not take issue with anything you said (your opinion is as valid as mine) - up until your last sentence, which piqued my interest.\n
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            You seem to be implying that Mr Singer’s “radical ideas” are weak, invalid, or beneath consideration because our society hasn’t embedded them yet. I would like to respond that I think the value of a radical idea cannot, and probably should not, be measured by how well society accepts it. For example, there are a some pretty famous, radical ideas from this rabbi a couple thousand years ago that have totally failed to be embedded in our society, yet his radical ideas arguably still have significant merit. I am thinking specifically of the radical idea of kindness and peace expressed in “turning the other cheek”, an idea we, as a society, have for all intents and purposes rejected.\n
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      I am focusing on the “blow my mind” part, rather than the “beautiful” part of your question, but I am certain many philosophically-minded people would consider the following “beautiful”.\n
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      Peter Singer’s argument in “Famine, Affluence, and Morality (1972)” that *you and most everyone you know* are probably *immoral or evil* and you don’t even realize it. It really affected my ideas of how to *strive* to live.\n
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      Here is a good video explaining the idea in detail, worth 30m of your time.\n
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      [Peter Singer - ordinary people are evil](https://youtu.be/KVl5kMXz1vA)
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        For me it is **Cellular Automata**, and more precisely the **Game of Life**.\n
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        Imagine a giant Excel spreadsheet where the cells are randomly chosen to be either “alive” or “dead”. Each cell then follows a handful of simple rules.\n
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        For example, if a cell is “alive” but has less than 2 “alive” neighbors it “dies” by under-population. If the cell is “alive” and has more than three “alive” neighbors it “dies” from over-population, etc.\n
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        There is colonization, reproduction, evolution, and sometimes even [space flight](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IK7nBOLYzdE)!
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            > That’s quite the claim.\n
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            **Yes**, it is, and as explained in the video the original author (and also the person explaining it) *admit* it is quite a claim, then proceed to demonstrate the veracity of the claim. I suggest you grab a cup of jo, settle in, and watch it. It addresses the points you bring up *directly*.\n
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            The *very* short answer to “are you immoral for purchasing a cell phone” is “*probably* yes”.\n
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            You’ve committed *reductio ad absurdum*.\n
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            Yes, most people are *probably* acting immorally and they are not even aware of it.\n
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            That doesn’t mean it is *a pointless exercise* to identify the immoral behavior and *strive* to reduce or eliminate it, even if it is impossible to completely do so.
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            You are (deliberately?) skipping over the part of *awareness*.\n
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            > I probably did a dozen immoral things before breakfast this morning.\n
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            Sure, certainly, yes, I’ll accept your admission at face value, **but** could you have done fewer?
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            I do not take issue with anything you said (your opinion is as valid as mine) - up until your last sentence, which piqued my interest.\n
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            You seem to be implying that Mr Singer’s “radical ideas” are weak, invalid, or beneath consideration because our society hasn’t embedded them yet. I would like to respond that I think the value of a radical idea cannot, and probably should not, be measured by how well society accepts it. For example, there are a some pretty famous, radical ideas from this rabbi a couple thousand years ago that have totally failed to be embedded in our society, yet his radical ideas arguably still have significant merit. I am thinking specifically of the radical idea of kindness and peace expressed in “turning the other cheek”, an idea we, as a society, have for all intents and purposes rejected.\n
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            Otherwise, I would also like to remind you that the OP just asked for ideas that blew our minds. Mr Singer’s idea, when I heard it for the first time, blew mine and I thought it fit the brief.
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      I am focusing on the “blow my mind” part, rather than the “beautiful” part of your question, but I am certain many philosophically-minded people would consider the following “beautiful”.\n
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      Peter Singer’s argument in “Famine, Affluence, and Morality (1972)” that *you and most everyone you know* are probably *immoral or evil* and you don’t even realize it. It really affected my ideas of how to *strive* to live.\n
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      Here is a good video explaining the idea in detail, worth 30m of your time.\n
      \n
      [Peter Singer - ordinary people are evil](https://youtu.be/KVl5kMXz1vA)
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            > That’s quite the claim.\n
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            You’ve committed *reductio ad absurdum*.\n
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            Yes, most people are *probably* acting immorally and they are not even aware of it.\n
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            You are (deliberately?) skipping over the part of *awareness*.\n
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            *Most* people probably don’t contemplate the moral implications of the purchase of a new phone, *this is true* and I accept your position this. But it is clearly not “literally every person” as you have said, since it only takes a single person with awareness to disprove your statement. I am certain *at least* one such person exists (even if anecdotally), so I rely on the word “most” rather than “literally every”.
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            > I probably did a dozen immoral things before breakfast this morning.\n
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            Sure, certainly, yes, I’ll accept your admission at face value, **but** could you have done fewer?
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            I do not take issue with anything you said (your opinion is as valid as mine) - up until your last sentence, which piqued my interest.\n
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            You seem to be implying that Mr Singer’s “radical ideas” are weak, invalid, or beneath consideration because our society hasn’t embedded them yet. I would like to respond that I think the value of a radical idea cannot, and probably should not, be measured by how well society accepts it. For example, there are a some pretty famous, radical ideas from this rabbi a couple thousand years ago that have totally failed to be embedded in our society, yet his radical ideas arguably still have significant merit. I am thinking specifically of the radical idea of kindness and peace expressed in “turning the other cheek”, an idea we, as a society, have for all intents and purposes rejected.\n
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      I am focusing on the “blow my mind” part, rather than the “beautiful” part of your question, but I am certain many philosophically-minded people would consider the following “beautiful”.\n
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      Peter Singer’s argument in “Famine, Affluence, and Morality (1972)” that *you and most everyone you know* are probably *immoral or evil* and you don’t even realize it. It really affected my ideas of how to *strive* to live.\n
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            > That’s quite the claim.\n
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            **Yes**, it is, and as explained in the video the original author (and also the person explaining it) *admit* it is quite a claim, then proceed to demonstrate the veracity of the claim. I suggest you grab a cup of jo, settle in, and watch it. It addresses the points you bring up *directly*.\n
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            You’ve committed *reductio ad absurdum*.\n
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            Yes, most people are *probably* acting immorally and they are not even aware of it.\n
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            You are (deliberately?) skipping over the part of *awareness*.\n
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            > I probably did a dozen immoral things before breakfast this morning.\n
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            Sure, certainly, yes, I’ll accept your admission at face value, **but** could you have done fewer?
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            I do not take issue with anything you said (your opinion is as valid as mine) - up until your last sentence, which piqued my interest.\n
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            You seem to be implying that Mr Singer’s “radical ideas” are weak, invalid, or beneath consideration because our society hasn’t embedded them yet. I would like to respond that I think the value of a radical idea cannot, and probably should not, be measured by how well society accepts it. For example, there are a some pretty famous, radical ideas from this rabbi a couple thousand years ago that have totally failed to be embedded in our society, yet his radical ideas arguably still have significant merit. I am thinking specifically of the radical idea of kindness and peace expressed in “turning the other cheek”, an idea we, as a society, have for all intents and purposes rejected.\n
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      I am focusing on the “blow my mind” part, rather than the “beautiful” part of your question, but I am certain many philosophically-minded people would consider the following “beautiful”.\n
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      Peter Singer’s argument in “Famine, Affluence, and Morality (1972)” that *you and most everyone you know* are probably *immoral or evil* and you don’t even realize it. It really affected my ideas of how to *strive* to live.\n
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      [Peter Singer - ordinary people are evil](https://youtu.be/KVl5kMXz1vA)
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        For me it is **Cellular Automata**, and more precisely the **Game of Life**.\n
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        Imagine a giant Excel spreadsheet where the cells are randomly chosen to be either “alive” or “dead”. Each cell then follows a handful of simple rules.\n
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        There is colonization, reproduction, evolution, and sometimes even [space flight](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IK7nBOLYzdE)!
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            I am focusing on the “blow my mind” part, rather than the “beautiful” part of your question, but I am certain many philosophically-minded people would consider the following “beautiful”.\n
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            Peter Singer’s argument in “Famine, Affluence, and Morality (1972)” that *you and most everyone you know* are probably *immoral or evil* and you don’t even realize it. It really affected my ideas of how to *strive* to live.\n
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            Here is a good video explaining the idea in detail, worth 30m of your time.\n
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            [Peter Singer - ordinary people are evil](https://youtu.be/KVl5kMXz1vA)
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            You’ve committed *reductio ad absurdum*.\n
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            Yes, most people are *probably* acting immorally and they are not even aware of it.\n
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            You are (deliberately?) skipping over the part of *awareness*.\n
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            Take for example a person who is aware that they cannot act morally when making seemingly normal, banal decisions. For example, they may be aware that when they choose to buy a shiny new cell phone when they have an older-but-still-perfectly-working model, they *very likely* doing something immoral. Because they are aware of the moral implications of their choice, they can choose hold-off buying a new phone for as long as possible (a morally-positive choice) and *perhaps* - going a step further - even using that money they would have spent on a new phone to help another person in need directly.\n
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            > I probably did a dozen immoral things before breakfast this morning.\n
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            Sure, certainly, yes, I’ll accept your admission at face value, **but** could you have done fewer?
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            I do not take issue with anything you said (your opinion is as valid as mine) - up until your last sentence, which piqued my interest.\n
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            You seem to be implying that Mr Singer’s “radical ideas” are weak, invalid, or beneath consideration because our society hasn’t embedded them yet. I would like to respond that I think the value of a radical idea cannot, and probably should not, be measured by how well society accepts it. For example, there are a some pretty famous, radical ideas from this rabbi a couple thousand years ago that have totally failed to be embedded in our society, yet his radical ideas arguably still have significant merit. I am thinking specifically of the radical idea of kindness and peace expressed in “turning the other cheek”, an idea we, as a society, have for all intents and purposes rejected.\n
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      > That’s quite the claim.\n
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          3. **Not regarding using or support for Lemmy**: [context](https://lemmy.ml/post/1223478), find help in the list of support alternatives below\n
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            I am focusing on the “blow my mind” part, rather than the “beautiful” part of your question, but I am certain many philosophically-minded people would consider the following “beautiful”.\n
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            Peter Singer’s argument in “Famine, Affluence, and Morality (1972)” that *you and most everyone you know* are probably *immoral or evil* and you don’t even realize it. It really affected my ideas of how to *strive* to live.\n
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            [Peter Singer - ordinary people are evil](https://youtu.be/KVl5kMXz1vA)
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            You’ve committed *reductio ad absurdum*.\n
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            Yes, most people are *probably* acting immorally and they are not even aware of it.\n
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            You are (deliberately?) skipping over the part of *awareness*.\n
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            Take for example a person who is aware that they cannot act morally when making seemingly normal, banal decisions. For example, they may be aware that when they choose to buy a shiny new cell phone when they have an older-but-still-perfectly-working model, they *very likely* doing something immoral. Because they are aware of the moral implications of their choice, they can choose hold-off buying a new phone for as long as possible (a morally-positive choice) and *perhaps* - going a step further - even using that money they would have spent on a new phone to help another person in need directly.\n
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            *Most* people probably don’t contemplate the moral implications of the purchase of a new phone, *this is true* and I accept your position this. But it is clearly not “literally every person” as you have said, since it only takes a single person with awareness to disprove your statement. I am certain *at least* one such person exists (even if anecdotally), so I rely on the word “most” rather than “literally every”.
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            > I probably did a dozen immoral things before breakfast this morning.\n
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            Sure, certainly, yes, I’ll accept your admission at face value, **but** could you have done fewer?
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            I do not take issue with anything you said (your opinion is as valid as mine) - up until your last sentence, which piqued my interest.\n
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            You seem to be implying that Mr Singer’s “radical ideas” are weak, invalid, or beneath consideration because our society hasn’t embedded them yet. I would like to respond that I think the value of a radical idea cannot, and probably should not, be measured by how well society accepts it. For example, there are a some pretty famous, radical ideas from this rabbi a couple thousand years ago that have totally failed to be embedded in our society, yet his radical ideas arguably still have significant merit. I am thinking specifically of the radical idea of kindness and peace expressed in “turning the other cheek”, an idea we, as a society, have for all intents and purposes rejected.\n
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      > That’s quite the claim.\n
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      **Yes**, it is, and as explained in the video the original author (and also the person explaining it) *admit* it is quite a claim, then proceed to demonstrate the veracity of the claim. I suggest you grab a cup of jo, settle in, and watch it. It addresses the points you bring up *directly*.\n
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          3. **Not regarding using or support for Lemmy**: [context](https://lemmy.ml/post/1223478), find help in the list of support alternatives below\n
          4. Not ad nauseam inducing: please make sure it is a question that would be new to most members\n
          5. [An actual topic of discussion](https://lemmy.ml/post/1239589)\n
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          Support alternatives:\n
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          - [!nostupidlemmyquestions@lemmy.dbzer0.com](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/nostupidlemmyquestions)\n
          - [!selfhosted@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/selfhosted)\n
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          ~Icon~ ~by~ ~@Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de~
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        For me it is **Cellular Automata**, and more precisely the **Game of Life**.\n
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            I am focusing on the “blow my mind” part, rather than the “beautiful” part of your question, but I am certain many philosophically-minded people would consider the following “beautiful”.\n
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            Peter Singer’s argument in “Famine, Affluence, and Morality (1972)” that *you and most everyone you know* are probably *immoral or evil* and you don’t even realize it. It really affected my ideas of how to *strive* to live.\n
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            You’ve committed *reductio ad absurdum*.\n
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            Yes, most people are *probably* acting immorally and they are not even aware of it.\n
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            You are (deliberately?) skipping over the part of *awareness*.\n
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            Take for example a person who is aware that they cannot act morally when making seemingly normal, banal decisions. For example, they may be aware that when they choose to buy a shiny new cell phone when they have an older-but-still-perfectly-working model, they *very likely* doing something immoral. Because they are aware of the moral implications of their choice, they can choose hold-off buying a new phone for as long as possible (a morally-positive choice) and *perhaps* - going a step further - even using that money they would have spent on a new phone to help another person in need directly.\n
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            > I probably did a dozen immoral things before breakfast this morning.\n
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            Sure, certainly, yes, I’ll accept your admission at face value, **but** could you have done fewer?
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            I do not take issue with anything you said (your opinion is as valid as mine) - up until your last sentence, which piqued my interest.\n
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            You seem to be implying that Mr Singer’s “radical ideas” are weak, invalid, or beneath consideration because our society hasn’t embedded them yet. I would like to respond that I think the value of a radical idea cannot, and probably should not, be measured by how well society accepts it. For example, there are a some pretty famous, radical ideas from this rabbi a couple thousand years ago that have totally failed to be embedded in our society, yet his radical ideas arguably still have significant merit. I am thinking specifically of the radical idea of kindness and peace expressed in “turning the other cheek”, an idea we, as a society, have for all intents and purposes rejected.\n
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      > That’s quite the claim.\n
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      **Yes**, it is, and as explained in the video the original author (and also the person explaining it) *admit* it is quite a claim, then proceed to demonstrate the veracity of the claim. I suggest you grab a cup of jo, settle in, and watch it. It addresses the points you bring up *directly*.\n
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        For me it is **Cellular Automata**, and more precisely the **Game of Life**.\n
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        Imagine a giant Excel spreadsheet where the cells are randomly chosen to be either “alive” or “dead”. Each cell then follows a handful of simple rules.\n
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        There is colonization, reproduction, evolution, and sometimes even [space flight](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IK7nBOLYzdE)!
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            I am focusing on the “blow my mind” part, rather than the “beautiful” part of your question, but I am certain many philosophically-minded people would consider the following “beautiful”.\n
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            Peter Singer’s argument in “Famine, Affluence, and Morality (1972)” that *you and most everyone you know* are probably *immoral or evil* and you don’t even realize it. It really affected my ideas of how to *strive* to live.\n
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            Here is a good video explaining the idea in detail, worth 30m of your time.\n
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            [Peter Singer - ordinary people are evil](https://youtu.be/KVl5kMXz1vA)
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            You’ve committed *reductio ad absurdum*.\n
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            Yes, most people are *probably* acting immorally and they are not even aware of it.\n
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            That doesn’t mean it is *a pointless exercise* to identify the immoral behavior and *strive* to reduce or eliminate it, even if it is impossible to completely do so.
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            You are (deliberately?) skipping over the part of *awareness*.\n
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            Take for example a person who is aware that they cannot act morally when making seemingly normal, banal decisions. For example, they may be aware that when they choose to buy a shiny new cell phone when they have an older-but-still-perfectly-working model, they *very likely* doing something immoral. Because they are aware of the moral implications of their choice, they can choose hold-off buying a new phone for as long as possible (a morally-positive choice) and *perhaps* - going a step further - even using that money they would have spent on a new phone to help another person in need directly.\n
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            > I probably did a dozen immoral things before breakfast this morning.\n
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            Sure, certainly, yes, I’ll accept your admission at face value, **but** could you have done fewer?
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            I do not take issue with anything you said (your opinion is as valid as mine) - up until your last sentence, which piqued my interest.\n
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            You seem to be implying that Mr Singer’s “radical ideas” are weak, invalid, or beneath consideration because our society hasn’t embedded them yet. I would like to respond that I think the value of a radical idea cannot, and probably should not, be measured by how well society accepts it. For example, there are a some pretty famous, radical ideas from this rabbi a couple thousand years ago that have totally failed to be embedded in our society, yet his radical ideas arguably still have significant merit. I am thinking specifically of the radical idea of kindness and peace expressed in “turning the other cheek”, an idea we, as a society, have for all intents and purposes rejected.\n
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      > That’s quite the claim.\n
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      **Yes**, it is, and as explained in the video the original author (and also the person explaining it) *admit* it is quite a claim, then proceed to demonstrate the veracity of the claim. I suggest you grab a cup of jo, settle in, and watch it. It addresses the points you bring up *directly*.\n
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        For me it is **Cellular Automata**, and more precisely the **Game of Life**.\n
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        Imagine a giant Excel spreadsheet where the cells are randomly chosen to be either “alive” or “dead”. Each cell then follows a handful of simple rules.\n
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        For example, if a cell is “alive” but has less than 2 “alive” neighbors it “dies” by under-population. If the cell is “alive” and has more than three “alive” neighbors it “dies” from over-population, etc.\n
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        There is colonization, reproduction, evolution, and sometimes even [space flight](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IK7nBOLYzdE)!
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            I am focusing on the “blow my mind” part, rather than the “beautiful” part of your question, but I am certain many philosophically-minded people would consider the following “beautiful”.\n
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            Peter Singer’s argument in “Famine, Affluence, and Morality (1972)” that *you and most everyone you know* are probably *immoral or evil* and you don’t even realize it. It really affected my ideas of how to *strive* to live.\n
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            Here is a good video explaining the idea in detail, worth 30m of your time.\n
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            [Peter Singer - ordinary people are evil](https://youtu.be/KVl5kMXz1vA)
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            You’ve committed *reductio ad absurdum*.\n
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            Yes, most people are *probably* acting immorally and they are not even aware of it.\n
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            That doesn’t mean it is *a pointless exercise* to identify the immoral behavior and *strive* to reduce or eliminate it, even if it is impossible to completely do so.
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            You are (deliberately?) skipping over the part of *awareness*.\n
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            *Most* people probably don’t contemplate the moral implications of the purchase of a new phone, *this is true* and I accept your position this. But it is clearly not “literally every person” as you have said, since it only takes a single person with awareness to disprove your statement. I am certain *at least* one such person exists (even if anecdotally), so I rely on the word “most” rather than “literally every”.
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            > I probably did a dozen immoral things before breakfast this morning.\n
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            Sure, certainly, yes, I’ll accept your admission at face value, **but** could you have done fewer?
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            I do not take issue with anything you said (your opinion is as valid as mine) - up until your last sentence, which piqued my interest.\n
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            You seem to be implying that Mr Singer’s “radical ideas” are weak, invalid, or beneath consideration because our society hasn’t embedded them yet. I would like to respond that I think the value of a radical idea cannot, and probably should not, be measured by how well society accepts it. For example, there are a some pretty famous, radical ideas from this rabbi a couple thousand years ago that have totally failed to be embedded in our society, yet his radical ideas arguably still have significant merit. I am thinking specifically of the radical idea of kindness and peace expressed in “turning the other cheek”, an idea we, as a society, have for all intents and purposes rejected.\n
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            Otherwise, I would also like to remind you that the OP just asked for ideas that blew our minds. Mr Singer’s idea, when I heard it for the first time, blew mine and I thought it fit the brief.
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      > That’s quite the claim.\n
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      **Yes**, it is, and as explained in the video the original author (and also the person explaining it) *admit* it is quite a claim, then proceed to demonstrate the veracity of the claim. I suggest you grab a cup of jo, settle in, and watch it. It addresses the points you bring up *directly*.\n
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            You’ve committed *reductio ad absurdum*.\n
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            Yes, most people are *probably* acting immorally and they are not even aware of it.\n
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            That doesn’t mean it is *a pointless exercise* to identify the immoral behavior and *strive* to reduce or eliminate it, even if it is impossible to completely do so.
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            You are (deliberately?) skipping over the part of *awareness*.\n
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            Take for example a person who is aware that they cannot act morally when making seemingly normal, banal decisions. For example, they may be aware that when they choose to buy a shiny new cell phone when they have an older-but-still-perfectly-working model, they *very likely* doing something immoral. Because they are aware of the moral implications of their choice, they can choose hold-off buying a new phone for as long as possible (a morally-positive choice) and *perhaps* - going a step further - even using that money they would have spent on a new phone to help another person in need directly.\n
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            *Most* people probably don’t contemplate the moral implications of the purchase of a new phone, *this is true* and I accept your position this. But it is clearly not “literally every person” as you have said, since it only takes a single person with awareness to disprove your statement. I am certain *at least* one such person exists (even if anecdotally), so I rely on the word “most” rather than “literally every”.
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            > I probably did a dozen immoral things before breakfast this morning.\n
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            Sure, certainly, yes, I’ll accept your admission at face value, **but** could you have done fewer?
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            I do not take issue with anything you said (your opinion is as valid as mine) - up until your last sentence, which piqued my interest.\n
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            You seem to be implying that Mr Singer’s “radical ideas” are weak, invalid, or beneath consideration because our society hasn’t embedded them yet. I would like to respond that I think the value of a radical idea cannot, and probably should not, be measured by how well society accepts it. For example, there are a some pretty famous, radical ideas from this rabbi a couple thousand years ago that have totally failed to be embedded in our society, yet his radical ideas arguably still have significant merit. I am thinking specifically of the radical idea of kindness and peace expressed in “turning the other cheek”, an idea we, as a society, have for all intents and purposes rejected.\n
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            Otherwise, I would also like to remind you that the OP just asked for ideas that blew our minds. Mr Singer’s idea, when I heard it for the first time, blew mine and I thought it fit the brief.
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      > That’s quite the claim.\n
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      **Yes**, it is, and as explained in the video the original author (and also the person explaining it) *admit* it is quite a claim, then proceed to demonstrate the veracity of the claim. I suggest you grab a cup of jo, settle in, and watch it. It addresses the points you bring up *directly*.\n
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        For me it is **Cellular Automata**, and more precisely the **Game of Life**.\n
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        Imagine a giant Excel spreadsheet where the cells are randomly chosen to be either “alive” or “dead”. Each cell then follows a handful of simple rules.\n
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        There is colonization, reproduction, evolution, and sometimes even [space flight](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IK7nBOLYzdE)!
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            I am focusing on the “blow my mind” part, rather than the “beautiful” part of your question, but I am certain many philosophically-minded people would consider the following “beautiful”.\n
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            Peter Singer’s argument in “Famine, Affluence, and Morality (1972)” that *you and most everyone you know* are probably *immoral or evil* and you don’t even realize it. It really affected my ideas of how to *strive* to live.\n
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            Here is a good video explaining the idea in detail, worth 30m of your time.\n
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            [Peter Singer - ordinary people are evil](https://youtu.be/KVl5kMXz1vA)
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            > That’s quite the claim.\n
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            **Yes**, it is, and as explained in the video the original author (and also the person explaining it) *admit* it is quite a claim, then proceed to demonstrate the veracity of the claim. I suggest you grab a cup of jo, settle in, and watch it. It addresses the points you bring up *directly*.\n
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            You are (deliberately?) skipping over the part of *awareness*.\n
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            Take for example a person who is aware that they cannot act morally when making seemingly normal, banal decisions. For example, they may be aware that when they choose to buy a shiny new cell phone when they have an older-but-still-perfectly-working model, they *very likely* doing something immoral. Because they are aware of the moral implications of their choice, they can choose hold-off buying a new phone for as long as possible (a morally-positive choice) and *perhaps* - going a step further - even using that money they would have spent on a new phone to help another person in need directly.\n
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            > I probably did a dozen immoral things before breakfast this morning.\n
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            Sure, certainly, yes, I’ll accept your admission at face value, **but** could you have done fewer?
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            I do not take issue with anything you said (your opinion is as valid as mine) - up until your last sentence, which piqued my interest.\n
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            You seem to be implying that Mr Singer’s “radical ideas” are weak, invalid, or beneath consideration because our society hasn’t embedded them yet. I would like to respond that I think the value of a radical idea cannot, and probably should not, be measured by how well society accepts it. For example, there are a some pretty famous, radical ideas from this rabbi a couple thousand years ago that have totally failed to be embedded in our society, yet his radical ideas arguably still have significant merit. I am thinking specifically of the radical idea of kindness and peace expressed in “turning the other cheek”, an idea we, as a society, have for all intents and purposes rejected.\n
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      You’ve committed *reductio ad absurdum*.\n
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      Yes, most people are *probably* acting immorally and they are not even aware of it.\n
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      That doesn’t mean it is *a pointless exercise* to identify the immoral behavior and *strive* to reduce or eliminate it, even if it is impossible to completely do so.
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          \n
          If your post meets the following criteria, it’s welcome here!\n
          \n
          1. Open-ended\n
          2. Not offensive: at this point, we do not have the bandwidth to moderate overtly political discussions\n
          3. **Not regarding using or support for Lemmy**: [context](https://lemmy.ml/post/1223478), find help in the list of support alternatives below\n
          4. Not ad nauseam inducing: please make sure it is a question that would be new to most members\n
          5. [An actual topic of discussion](https://lemmy.ml/post/1239589)\n
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          Support alternatives:\n
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          - [!lemmy_support@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/lemmy_support)\n
          - [!nostupidlemmyquestions@lemmy.dbzer0.com](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/nostupidlemmyquestions)\n
          - [!selfhosted@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/selfhosted)\n
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          ~Icon~ ~by~ ~@Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de~
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        For me it is **Cellular Automata**, and more precisely the **Game of Life**.\n
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        Imagine a giant Excel spreadsheet where the cells are randomly chosen to be either “alive” or “dead”. Each cell then follows a handful of simple rules.\n
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        There is colonization, reproduction, evolution, and sometimes even [space flight](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IK7nBOLYzdE)!
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            I am focusing on the “blow my mind” part, rather than the “beautiful” part of your question, but I am certain many philosophically-minded people would consider the following “beautiful”.\n
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            Peter Singer’s argument in “Famine, Affluence, and Morality (1972)” that *you and most everyone you know* are probably *immoral or evil* and you don’t even realize it. It really affected my ideas of how to *strive* to live.\n
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            Here is a good video explaining the idea in detail, worth 30m of your time.\n
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            [Peter Singer - ordinary people are evil](https://youtu.be/KVl5kMXz1vA)
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            > That’s quite the claim.\n
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            **Yes**, it is, and as explained in the video the original author (and also the person explaining it) *admit* it is quite a claim, then proceed to demonstrate the veracity of the claim. I suggest you grab a cup of jo, settle in, and watch it. It addresses the points you bring up *directly*.\n
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            The *very* short answer to “are you immoral for purchasing a cell phone” is “*probably* yes”.\n
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            You are (deliberately?) skipping over the part of *awareness*.\n
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            Take for example a person who is aware that they cannot act morally when making seemingly normal, banal decisions. For example, they may be aware that when they choose to buy a shiny new cell phone when they have an older-but-still-perfectly-working model, they *very likely* doing something immoral. Because they are aware of the moral implications of their choice, they can choose hold-off buying a new phone for as long as possible (a morally-positive choice) and *perhaps* - going a step further - even using that money they would have spent on a new phone to help another person in need directly.\n
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            *Most* people probably don’t contemplate the moral implications of the purchase of a new phone, *this is true* and I accept your position this. But it is clearly not “literally every person” as you have said, since it only takes a single person with awareness to disprove your statement. I am certain *at least* one such person exists (even if anecdotally), so I rely on the word “most” rather than “literally every”.
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            > I probably did a dozen immoral things before breakfast this morning.\n
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            Sure, certainly, yes, I’ll accept your admission at face value, **but** could you have done fewer?
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            I do not take issue with anything you said (your opinion is as valid as mine) - up until your last sentence, which piqued my interest.\n
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            You seem to be implying that Mr Singer’s “radical ideas” are weak, invalid, or beneath consideration because our society hasn’t embedded them yet. I would like to respond that I think the value of a radical idea cannot, and probably should not, be measured by how well society accepts it. For example, there are a some pretty famous, radical ideas from this rabbi a couple thousand years ago that have totally failed to be embedded in our society, yet his radical ideas arguably still have significant merit. I am thinking specifically of the radical idea of kindness and peace expressed in “turning the other cheek”, an idea we, as a society, have for all intents and purposes rejected.\n
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      You’ve committed *reductio ad absurdum*.\n
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          5. [An actual topic of discussion](https://lemmy.ml/post/1239589)\n
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          ~Icon~ ~by~ ~@Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de~
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        For me it is **Cellular Automata**, and more precisely the **Game of Life**.\n
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            I am focusing on the “blow my mind” part, rather than the “beautiful” part of your question, but I am certain many philosophically-minded people would consider the following “beautiful”.\n
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            Peter Singer’s argument in “Famine, Affluence, and Morality (1972)” that *you and most everyone you know* are probably *immoral or evil* and you don’t even realize it. It really affected my ideas of how to *strive* to live.\n
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            Here is a good video explaining the idea in detail, worth 30m of your time.\n
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            [Peter Singer - ordinary people are evil](https://youtu.be/KVl5kMXz1vA)
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            > That’s quite the claim.\n
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            **Yes**, it is, and as explained in the video the original author (and also the person explaining it) *admit* it is quite a claim, then proceed to demonstrate the veracity of the claim. I suggest you grab a cup of jo, settle in, and watch it. It addresses the points you bring up *directly*.\n
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            You are (deliberately?) skipping over the part of *awareness*.\n
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            *Most* people probably don’t contemplate the moral implications of the purchase of a new phone, *this is true* and I accept your position this. But it is clearly not “literally every person” as you have said, since it only takes a single person with awareness to disprove your statement. I am certain *at least* one such person exists (even if anecdotally), so I rely on the word “most” rather than “literally every”.
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            > I probably did a dozen immoral things before breakfast this morning.\n
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            Sure, certainly, yes, I’ll accept your admission at face value, **but** could you have done fewer?
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            I do not take issue with anything you said (your opinion is as valid as mine) - up until your last sentence, which piqued my interest.\n
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            You seem to be implying that Mr Singer’s “radical ideas” are weak, invalid, or beneath consideration because our society hasn’t embedded them yet. I would like to respond that I think the value of a radical idea cannot, and probably should not, be measured by how well society accepts it. For example, there are a some pretty famous, radical ideas from this rabbi a couple thousand years ago that have totally failed to be embedded in our society, yet his radical ideas arguably still have significant merit. I am thinking specifically of the radical idea of kindness and peace expressed in “turning the other cheek”, an idea we, as a society, have for all intents and purposes rejected.\n
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            I am focusing on the “blow my mind” part, rather than the “beautiful” part of your question, but I am certain many philosophically-minded people would consider the following “beautiful”.\n
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            Peter Singer’s argument in “Famine, Affluence, and Morality (1972)” that *you and most everyone you know* are probably *immoral or evil* and you don’t even realize it. It really affected my ideas of how to *strive* to live.\n
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            > That’s quite the claim.\n
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            **Yes**, it is, and as explained in the video the original author (and also the person explaining it) *admit* it is quite a claim, then proceed to demonstrate the veracity of the claim. I suggest you grab a cup of jo, settle in, and watch it. It addresses the points you bring up *directly*.\n
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            You are (deliberately?) skipping over the part of *awareness*.\n
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            > I probably did a dozen immoral things before breakfast this morning.\n
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            Sure, certainly, yes, I’ll accept your admission at face value, **but** could you have done fewer?
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            I do not take issue with anything you said (your opinion is as valid as mine) - up until your last sentence, which piqued my interest.\n
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            You seem to be implying that Mr Singer’s “radical ideas” are weak, invalid, or beneath consideration because our society hasn’t embedded them yet. I would like to respond that I think the value of a radical idea cannot, and probably should not, be measured by how well society accepts it. For example, there are a some pretty famous, radical ideas from this rabbi a couple thousand years ago that have totally failed to be embedded in our society, yet his radical ideas arguably still have significant merit. I am thinking specifically of the radical idea of kindness and peace expressed in “turning the other cheek”, an idea we, as a society, have for all intents and purposes rejected.\n
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        For me it is **Cellular Automata**, and more precisely the **Game of Life**.\n
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        Imagine a giant Excel spreadsheet where the cells are randomly chosen to be either “alive” or “dead”. Each cell then follows a handful of simple rules.\n
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            I am focusing on the “blow my mind” part, rather than the “beautiful” part of your question, but I am certain many philosophically-minded people would consider the following “beautiful”.\n
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            Peter Singer’s argument in “Famine, Affluence, and Morality (1972)” that *you and most everyone you know* are probably *immoral or evil* and you don’t even realize it. It really affected my ideas of how to *strive* to live.\n
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            Here is a good video explaining the idea in detail, worth 30m of your time.\n
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            [Peter Singer - ordinary people are evil](https://youtu.be/KVl5kMXz1vA)
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            > That’s quite the claim.\n
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            **Yes**, it is, and as explained in the video the original author (and also the person explaining it) *admit* it is quite a claim, then proceed to demonstrate the veracity of the claim. I suggest you grab a cup of jo, settle in, and watch it. It addresses the points you bring up *directly*.\n
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            You are (deliberately?) skipping over the part of *awareness*.\n
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            Take for example a person who is aware that they cannot act morally when making seemingly normal, banal decisions. For example, they may be aware that when they choose to buy a shiny new cell phone when they have an older-but-still-perfectly-working model, they *very likely* doing something immoral. Because they are aware of the moral implications of their choice, they can choose hold-off buying a new phone for as long as possible (a morally-positive choice) and *perhaps* - going a step further - even using that money they would have spent on a new phone to help another person in need directly.\n
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            > I probably did a dozen immoral things before breakfast this morning.\n
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            Sure, certainly, yes, I’ll accept your admission at face value, **but** could you have done fewer?
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            I do not take issue with anything you said (your opinion is as valid as mine) - up until your last sentence, which piqued my interest.\n
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            You seem to be implying that Mr Singer’s “radical ideas” are weak, invalid, or beneath consideration because our society hasn’t embedded them yet. I would like to respond that I think the value of a radical idea cannot, and probably should not, be measured by how well society accepts it. For example, there are a some pretty famous, radical ideas from this rabbi a couple thousand years ago that have totally failed to be embedded in our society, yet his radical ideas arguably still have significant merit. I am thinking specifically of the radical idea of kindness and peace expressed in “turning the other cheek”, an idea we, as a society, have for all intents and purposes rejected.\n
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            Otherwise, I would also like to remind you that the OP just asked for ideas that blew our minds. Mr Singer’s idea, when I heard it for the first time, blew mine and I thought it fit the brief.
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        For me it is **Cellular Automata**, and more precisely the **Game of Life**.\n
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            I am focusing on the “blow my mind” part, rather than the “beautiful” part of your question, but I am certain many philosophically-minded people would consider the following “beautiful”.\n
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            Peter Singer’s argument in “Famine, Affluence, and Morality (1972)” that *you and most everyone you know* are probably *immoral or evil* and you don’t even realize it. It really affected my ideas of how to *strive* to live.\n
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            Here is a good video explaining the idea in detail, worth 30m of your time.\n
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            [Peter Singer - ordinary people are evil](https://youtu.be/KVl5kMXz1vA)
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            > That’s quite the claim.\n
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            **Yes**, it is, and as explained in the video the original author (and also the person explaining it) *admit* it is quite a claim, then proceed to demonstrate the veracity of the claim. I suggest you grab a cup of jo, settle in, and watch it. It addresses the points you bring up *directly*.\n
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            You are (deliberately?) skipping over the part of *awareness*.\n
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            Take for example a person who is aware that they cannot act morally when making seemingly normal, banal decisions. For example, they may be aware that when they choose to buy a shiny new cell phone when they have an older-but-still-perfectly-working model, they *very likely* doing something immoral. Because they are aware of the moral implications of their choice, they can choose hold-off buying a new phone for as long as possible (a morally-positive choice) and *perhaps* - going a step further - even using that money they would have spent on a new phone to help another person in need directly.\n
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            *Most* people probably don’t contemplate the moral implications of the purchase of a new phone, *this is true* and I accept your position this. But it is clearly not “literally every person” as you have said, since it only takes a single person with awareness to disprove your statement. I am certain *at least* one such person exists (even if anecdotally), so I rely on the word “most” rather than “literally every”.
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            > I probably did a dozen immoral things before breakfast this morning.\n
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            Sure, certainly, yes, I’ll accept your admission at face value, **but** could you have done fewer?
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            I do not take issue with anything you said (your opinion is as valid as mine) - up until your last sentence, which piqued my interest.\n
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            You seem to be implying that Mr Singer’s “radical ideas” are weak, invalid, or beneath consideration because our society hasn’t embedded them yet. I would like to respond that I think the value of a radical idea cannot, and probably should not, be measured by how well society accepts it. For example, there are a some pretty famous, radical ideas from this rabbi a couple thousand years ago that have totally failed to be embedded in our society, yet his radical ideas arguably still have significant merit. I am thinking specifically of the radical idea of kindness and peace expressed in “turning the other cheek”, an idea we, as a society, have for all intents and purposes rejected.\n
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      You’ve committed *reductio ad absurdum*.\n
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        For me it is **Cellular Automata**, and more precisely the **Game of Life**.\n
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        Imagine a giant Excel spreadsheet where the cells are randomly chosen to be either “alive” or “dead”. Each cell then follows a handful of simple rules.\n
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        There is colonization, reproduction, evolution, and sometimes even [space flight](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IK7nBOLYzdE)!
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            I am focusing on the “blow my mind” part, rather than the “beautiful” part of your question, but I am certain many philosophically-minded people would consider the following “beautiful”.\n
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            Peter Singer’s argument in “Famine, Affluence, and Morality (1972)” that *you and most everyone you know* are probably *immoral or evil* and you don’t even realize it. It really affected my ideas of how to *strive* to live.\n
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            Here is a good video explaining the idea in detail, worth 30m of your time.\n
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            [Peter Singer - ordinary people are evil](https://youtu.be/KVl5kMXz1vA)
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            > That’s quite the claim.\n
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            **Yes**, it is, and as explained in the video the original author (and also the person explaining it) *admit* it is quite a claim, then proceed to demonstrate the veracity of the claim. I suggest you grab a cup of jo, settle in, and watch it. It addresses the points you bring up *directly*.\n
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            [EDIT: Re: Quite a Claim: Yes, and thus fitting the OP’s “mind-blowing” criteria for the thread :-)]\n
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            The *very* short answer to “are you immoral for purchasing a cell phone” is “*probably* yes”.\n
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            The proposition is not an easy one (it accepts it is extreme), but it is hard to deny when you march down the logic.
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            You’ve committed *reductio ad absurdum*.\n
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            Yes, most people are *probably* acting immorally and they are not even aware of it.\n
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            That doesn’t mean it is *a pointless exercise* to identify the immoral behavior and *strive* to reduce or eliminate it, even if it is impossible to completely do so.
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            > I probably did a dozen immoral things before breakfast this morning.\n
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            Sure, certainly, yes, I’ll accept your admission at face value, **but** could you have done fewer?
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            I do not take issue with anything you said (your opinion is as valid as mine) - up until your last sentence, which piqued my interest.\n
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            You seem to be implying that Mr Singer’s “radical ideas” are weak, invalid, or beneath consideration because our society hasn’t embedded them yet. I would like to respond that I think the value of a radical idea cannot, and probably should not, be measured by how well society accepts it. For example, there are a some pretty famous, radical ideas from this rabbi a couple thousand years ago that have totally failed to be embedded in our society, yet his radical ideas arguably still have significant merit. I am thinking specifically of the radical idea of kindness and peace expressed in “turning the other cheek”, an idea we, as a society, have for all intents and purposes rejected.\n
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            Otherwise, I would also like to remind you that the OP just asked for ideas that blew our minds. Mr Singer’s idea, when I heard it for the first time, blew mine and I thought it fit the brief.
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      You are (deliberately?) skipping over the part of *awareness*.\n
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      Take for example a person who is aware that they cannot act morally when making seemingly normal, banal decisions. For example, they may be aware that when they choose to buy a shiny new cell phone when they have an older-but-still-perfectly-working model, they *very likely* doing something immoral. Because they are aware of the moral implications of their choice, they can choose hold-off buying a new phone for as long as possible (a morally-positive choice) and *perhaps* - going a step further - even using that money they would have spent on a new phone to help another person in need directly.\n
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      *Most* people probably don’t contemplate the moral implications of the purchase of a new phone, *this is true* and I accept your position this. But it is clearly not “literally every person” as you have said, since it only takes a single person with awareness to disprove your statement. I am certain *at least* one such person exists (even if anecdotally), so I rely on the word “most” rather than “literally every”.
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        For me it is **Cellular Automata**, and more precisely the **Game of Life**.\n
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        Imagine a giant Excel spreadsheet where the cells are randomly chosen to be either “alive” or “dead”. Each cell then follows a handful of simple rules.\n
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        There is colonization, reproduction, evolution, and sometimes even [space flight](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IK7nBOLYzdE)!
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            I am focusing on the “blow my mind” part, rather than the “beautiful” part of your question, but I am certain many philosophically-minded people would consider the following “beautiful”.\n
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            Peter Singer’s argument in “Famine, Affluence, and Morality (1972)” that *you and most everyone you know* are probably *immoral or evil* and you don’t even realize it. It really affected my ideas of how to *strive* to live.\n
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            Here is a good video explaining the idea in detail, worth 30m of your time.\n
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            [Peter Singer - ordinary people are evil](https://youtu.be/KVl5kMXz1vA)
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            > That’s quite the claim.\n
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            **Yes**, it is, and as explained in the video the original author (and also the person explaining it) *admit* it is quite a claim, then proceed to demonstrate the veracity of the claim. I suggest you grab a cup of jo, settle in, and watch it. It addresses the points you bring up *directly*.\n
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            You’ve committed *reductio ad absurdum*.\n
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            Yes, most people are *probably* acting immorally and they are not even aware of it.\n
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            > I probably did a dozen immoral things before breakfast this morning.\n
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            Sure, certainly, yes, I’ll accept your admission at face value, **but** could you have done fewer?
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            I do not take issue with anything you said (your opinion is as valid as mine) - up until your last sentence, which piqued my interest.\n
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            You seem to be implying that Mr Singer’s “radical ideas” are weak, invalid, or beneath consideration because our society hasn’t embedded them yet. I would like to respond that I think the value of a radical idea cannot, and probably should not, be measured by how well society accepts it. For example, there are a some pretty famous, radical ideas from this rabbi a couple thousand years ago that have totally failed to be embedded in our society, yet his radical ideas arguably still have significant merit. I am thinking specifically of the radical idea of kindness and peace expressed in “turning the other cheek”, an idea we, as a society, have for all intents and purposes rejected.\n
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      You are (deliberately?) skipping over the part of *awareness*.\n
      \n
      Take for example a person who is aware that they cannot act morally when making seemingly normal, banal decisions. For example, they may be aware that when they choose to buy a shiny new cell phone when they have an older-but-still-perfectly-working model, they *very likely* doing something immoral. Because they are aware of the moral implications of their choice, they can choose hold-off buying a new phone for as long as possible (a morally-positive choice) and *perhaps* - going a step further - even using that money they would have spent on a new phone to help another person in need directly.\n
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      *Most* people probably don’t contemplate the moral implications of the purchase of a new phone, *this is true* and I accept your position this. But it is clearly not “literally every person” as you have said, since it only takes a single person with awareness to disprove your statement. I am certain *at least* one such person exists (even if anecdotally), so I rely on the word “most” rather than “literally every”.
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        For me it is **Cellular Automata**, and more precisely the **Game of Life**.\n
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        Imagine a giant Excel spreadsheet where the cells are randomly chosen to be either “alive” or “dead”. Each cell then follows a handful of simple rules.\n
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            I am focusing on the “blow my mind” part, rather than the “beautiful” part of your question, but I am certain many philosophically-minded people would consider the following “beautiful”.\n
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            Peter Singer’s argument in “Famine, Affluence, and Morality (1972)” that *you and most everyone you know* are probably *immoral or evil* and you don’t even realize it. It really affected my ideas of how to *strive* to live.\n
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            Here is a good video explaining the idea in detail, worth 30m of your time.\n
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            [Peter Singer - ordinary people are evil](https://youtu.be/KVl5kMXz1vA)
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            > That’s quite the claim.\n
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            **Yes**, it is, and as explained in the video the original author (and also the person explaining it) *admit* it is quite a claim, then proceed to demonstrate the veracity of the claim. I suggest you grab a cup of jo, settle in, and watch it. It addresses the points you bring up *directly*.\n
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            You’ve committed *reductio ad absurdum*.\n
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            Yes, most people are *probably* acting immorally and they are not even aware of it.\n
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            > I probably did a dozen immoral things before breakfast this morning.\n
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            Sure, certainly, yes, I’ll accept your admission at face value, **but** could you have done fewer?
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            I do not take issue with anything you said (your opinion is as valid as mine) - up until your last sentence, which piqued my interest.\n
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            You seem to be implying that Mr Singer’s “radical ideas” are weak, invalid, or beneath consideration because our society hasn’t embedded them yet. I would like to respond that I think the value of a radical idea cannot, and probably should not, be measured by how well society accepts it. For example, there are a some pretty famous, radical ideas from this rabbi a couple thousand years ago that have totally failed to be embedded in our society, yet his radical ideas arguably still have significant merit. I am thinking specifically of the radical idea of kindness and peace expressed in “turning the other cheek”, an idea we, as a society, have for all intents and purposes rejected.\n
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      You are (deliberately?) skipping over the part of *awareness*.\n
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      Take for example a person who is aware that they cannot act morally when making seemingly normal, banal decisions. For example, they may be aware that when they choose to buy a shiny new cell phone when they have an older-but-still-perfectly-working model, they *very likely* doing something immoral. Because they are aware of the moral implications of their choice, they can choose hold-off buying a new phone for as long as possible (a morally-positive choice) and *perhaps* - going a step further - even using that money they would have spent on a new phone to help another person in need directly.\n
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      *Most* people probably don’t contemplate the moral implications of the purchase of a new phone, *this is true* and I accept your position this. But it is clearly not “literally every person” as you have said, since it only takes a single person with awareness to disprove your statement. I am certain *at least* one such person exists (even if anecdotally), so I rely on the word “most” rather than “literally every”.
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          5. [An actual topic of discussion](https://lemmy.ml/post/1239589)\n
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            I am focusing on the “blow my mind” part, rather than the “beautiful” part of your question, but I am certain many philosophically-minded people would consider the following “beautiful”.\n
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            > That’s quite the claim.\n
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            **Yes**, it is, and as explained in the video the original author (and also the person explaining it) *admit* it is quite a claim, then proceed to demonstrate the veracity of the claim. I suggest you grab a cup of jo, settle in, and watch it. It addresses the points you bring up *directly*.\n
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            [EDIT: Re: Quite a Claim: Yes, and thus fitting the OP’s “mind-blowing” criteria for the thread :-)]\n
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            The *very* short answer to “are you immoral for purchasing a cell phone” is “*probably* yes”.\n
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            The proposition is not an easy one (it accepts it is extreme), but it is hard to deny when you march down the logic.
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            You’ve committed *reductio ad absurdum*.\n
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            Yes, most people are *probably* acting immorally and they are not even aware of it.\n
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            > I probably did a dozen immoral things before breakfast this morning.\n
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            Sure, certainly, yes, I’ll accept your admission at face value, **but** could you have done fewer?
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            I do not take issue with anything you said (your opinion is as valid as mine) - up until your last sentence, which piqued my interest.\n
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            You seem to be implying that Mr Singer’s “radical ideas” are weak, invalid, or beneath consideration because our society hasn’t embedded them yet. I would like to respond that I think the value of a radical idea cannot, and probably should not, be measured by how well society accepts it. For example, there are a some pretty famous, radical ideas from this rabbi a couple thousand years ago that have totally failed to be embedded in our society, yet his radical ideas arguably still have significant merit. I am thinking specifically of the radical idea of kindness and peace expressed in “turning the other cheek”, an idea we, as a society, have for all intents and purposes rejected.\n
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      You are (deliberately?) skipping over the part of *awareness*.\n
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      Take for example a person who is aware that they cannot act morally when making seemingly normal, banal decisions. For example, they may be aware that when they choose to buy a shiny new cell phone when they have an older-but-still-perfectly-working model, they *very likely* doing something immoral. Because they are aware of the moral implications of their choice, they can choose hold-off buying a new phone for as long as possible (a morally-positive choice) and *perhaps* - going a step further - even using that money they would have spent on a new phone to help another person in need directly.\n
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        For me it is **Cellular Automata**, and more precisely the **Game of Life**.\n
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        Imagine a giant Excel spreadsheet where the cells are randomly chosen to be either “alive” or “dead”. Each cell then follows a handful of simple rules.\n
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            I am focusing on the “blow my mind” part, rather than the “beautiful” part of your question, but I am certain many philosophically-minded people would consider the following “beautiful”.\n
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            Peter Singer’s argument in “Famine, Affluence, and Morality (1972)” that *you and most everyone you know* are probably *immoral or evil* and you don’t even realize it. It really affected my ideas of how to *strive* to live.\n
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            Here is a good video explaining the idea in detail, worth 30m of your time.\n
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            [Peter Singer - ordinary people are evil](https://youtu.be/KVl5kMXz1vA)
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            > That’s quite the claim.\n
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            **Yes**, it is, and as explained in the video the original author (and also the person explaining it) *admit* it is quite a claim, then proceed to demonstrate the veracity of the claim. I suggest you grab a cup of jo, settle in, and watch it. It addresses the points you bring up *directly*.\n
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            [EDIT: Re: Quite a Claim: Yes, and thus fitting the OP’s “mind-blowing” criteria for the thread :-)]\n
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            The *very* short answer to “are you immoral for purchasing a cell phone” is “*probably* yes”.\n
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            You’ve committed *reductio ad absurdum*.\n
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            Yes, most people are *probably* acting immorally and they are not even aware of it.\n
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            > I probably did a dozen immoral things before breakfast this morning.\n
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            Sure, certainly, yes, I’ll accept your admission at face value, **but** could you have done fewer?
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            I do not take issue with anything you said (your opinion is as valid as mine) - up until your last sentence, which piqued my interest.\n
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            You seem to be implying that Mr Singer’s “radical ideas” are weak, invalid, or beneath consideration because our society hasn’t embedded them yet. I would like to respond that I think the value of a radical idea cannot, and probably should not, be measured by how well society accepts it. For example, there are a some pretty famous, radical ideas from this rabbi a couple thousand years ago that have totally failed to be embedded in our society, yet his radical ideas arguably still have significant merit. I am thinking specifically of the radical idea of kindness and peace expressed in “turning the other cheek”, an idea we, as a society, have for all intents and purposes rejected.\n
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            Otherwise, I would also like to remind you that the OP just asked for ideas that blew our minds. Mr Singer’s idea, when I heard it for the first time, blew mine and I thought it fit the brief.
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      You are (deliberately?) skipping over the part of *awareness*.\n
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      Take for example a person who is aware that they cannot act morally when making seemingly normal, banal decisions. For example, they may be aware that when they choose to buy a shiny new cell phone when they have an older-but-still-perfectly-working model, they *very likely* doing something immoral. Because they are aware of the moral implications of their choice, they can choose hold-off buying a new phone for as long as possible (a morally-positive choice) and *perhaps* - going a step further - even using that money they would have spent on a new phone to help another person in need directly.\n
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      *Most* people probably don’t contemplate the moral implications of the purchase of a new phone, *this is true* and I accept your position this. But it is clearly not “literally every person” as you have said, since it only takes a single person with awareness to disprove your statement. I am certain *at least* one such person exists (even if anecdotally), so I rely on the word “most” rather than “literally every”.
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        For me it is **Cellular Automata**, and more precisely the **Game of Life**.\n
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        Imagine a giant Excel spreadsheet where the cells are randomly chosen to be either “alive” or “dead”. Each cell then follows a handful of simple rules.\n
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        For example, if a cell is “alive” but has less than 2 “alive” neighbors it “dies” by under-population. If the cell is “alive” and has more than three “alive” neighbors it “dies” from over-population, etc.\n
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        It kinda, sorta, maybe resembles… life.\n
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        There is colonization, reproduction, evolution, and sometimes even [space flight](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IK7nBOLYzdE)!
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            I am focusing on the “blow my mind” part, rather than the “beautiful” part of your question, but I am certain many philosophically-minded people would consider the following “beautiful”.\n
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            Peter Singer’s argument in “Famine, Affluence, and Morality (1972)” that *you and most everyone you know* are probably *immoral or evil* and you don’t even realize it. It really affected my ideas of how to *strive* to live.\n
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            Here is a good video explaining the idea in detail, worth 30m of your time.\n
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            [Peter Singer - ordinary people are evil](https://youtu.be/KVl5kMXz1vA)
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            > That’s quite the claim.\n
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            **Yes**, it is, and as explained in the video the original author (and also the person explaining it) *admit* it is quite a claim, then proceed to demonstrate the veracity of the claim. I suggest you grab a cup of jo, settle in, and watch it. It addresses the points you bring up *directly*.\n
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            [EDIT: Re: Quite a Claim: Yes, and thus fitting the OP’s “mind-blowing” criteria for the thread :-)]\n
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            The *very* short answer to “are you immoral for purchasing a cell phone” is “*probably* yes”.\n
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            You’ve committed *reductio ad absurdum*.\n
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            Yes, most people are *probably* acting immorally and they are not even aware of it.\n
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            That doesn’t mean it is *a pointless exercise* to identify the immoral behavior and *strive* to reduce or eliminate it, even if it is impossible to completely do so.
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            > I probably did a dozen immoral things before breakfast this morning.\n
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            Sure, certainly, yes, I’ll accept your admission at face value, **but** could you have done fewer?
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            I do not take issue with anything you said (your opinion is as valid as mine) - up until your last sentence, which piqued my interest.\n
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            You seem to be implying that Mr Singer’s “radical ideas” are weak, invalid, or beneath consideration because our society hasn’t embedded them yet. I would like to respond that I think the value of a radical idea cannot, and probably should not, be measured by how well society accepts it. For example, there are a some pretty famous, radical ideas from this rabbi a couple thousand years ago that have totally failed to be embedded in our society, yet his radical ideas arguably still have significant merit. I am thinking specifically of the radical idea of kindness and peace expressed in “turning the other cheek”, an idea we, as a society, have for all intents and purposes rejected.\n
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            Otherwise, I would also like to remind you that the OP just asked for ideas that blew our minds. Mr Singer’s idea, when I heard it for the first time, blew mine and I thought it fit the brief.
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      You are (deliberately?) skipping over the part of *awareness*.\n
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      Take for example a person who is aware that they cannot act morally when making seemingly normal, banal decisions. For example, they may be aware that when they choose to buy a shiny new cell phone when they have an older-but-still-perfectly-working model, they *very likely* doing something immoral. Because they are aware of the moral implications of their choice, they can choose hold-off buying a new phone for as long as possible (a morally-positive choice) and *perhaps* - going a step further - even using that money they would have spent on a new phone to help another person in need directly.\n
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      *Most* people probably don’t contemplate the moral implications of the purchase of a new phone, *this is true* and I accept your position this. But it is clearly not “literally every person” as you have said, since it only takes a single person with awareness to disprove your statement. I am certain *at least* one such person exists (even if anecdotally), so I rely on the word “most” rather than “literally every”.
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            > That’s quite the claim.\n
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            **Yes**, it is, and as explained in the video the original author (and also the person explaining it) *admit* it is quite a claim, then proceed to demonstrate the veracity of the claim. I suggest you grab a cup of jo, settle in, and watch it. It addresses the points you bring up *directly*.\n
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            [EDIT: Re: Quite a Claim: Yes, and thus fitting the OP’s “mind-blowing” criteria for the thread :-)]\n
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            The *very* short answer to “are you immoral for purchasing a cell phone” is “*probably* yes”.\n
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            You’ve committed *reductio ad absurdum*.\n
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            Yes, most people are *probably* acting immorally and they are not even aware of it.\n
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            That doesn’t mean it is *a pointless exercise* to identify the immoral behavior and *strive* to reduce or eliminate it, even if it is impossible to completely do so.
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            You are (deliberately?) skipping over the part of *awareness*.\n
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            Take for example a person who is aware that they cannot act morally when making seemingly normal, banal decisions. For example, they may be aware that when they choose to buy a shiny new cell phone when they have an older-but-still-perfectly-working model, they *very likely* doing something immoral. Because they are aware of the moral implications of their choice, they can choose hold-off buying a new phone for as long as possible (a morally-positive choice) and *perhaps* - going a step further - even using that money they would have spent on a new phone to help another person in need directly.\n
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            *Most* people probably don’t contemplate the moral implications of the purchase of a new phone, *this is true* and I accept your position this. But it is clearly not “literally every person” as you have said, since it only takes a single person with awareness to disprove your statement. I am certain *at least* one such person exists (even if anecdotally), so I rely on the word “most” rather than “literally every”.
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            I do not take issue with anything you said (your opinion is as valid as mine) - up until your last sentence, which piqued my interest.\n
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            You seem to be implying that Mr Singer’s “radical ideas” are weak, invalid, or beneath consideration because our society hasn’t embedded them yet. I would like to respond that I think the value of a radical idea cannot, and probably should not, be measured by how well society accepts it. For example, there are a some pretty famous, radical ideas from this rabbi a couple thousand years ago that have totally failed to be embedded in our society, yet his radical ideas arguably still have significant merit. I am thinking specifically of the radical idea of kindness and peace expressed in “turning the other cheek”, an idea we, as a society, have for all intents and purposes rejected.\n
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      > I probably did a dozen immoral things before breakfast this morning.\n
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      Sure, certainly, yes, I’ll accept your admission at face value, **but** could you have done fewer?
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        For me it is **Cellular Automata**, and more precisely the **Game of Life**.\n
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        Imagine a giant Excel spreadsheet where the cells are randomly chosen to be either “alive” or “dead”. Each cell then follows a handful of simple rules.\n
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            I am focusing on the “blow my mind” part, rather than the “beautiful” part of your question, but I am certain many philosophically-minded people would consider the following “beautiful”.\n
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            Peter Singer’s argument in “Famine, Affluence, and Morality (1972)” that *you and most everyone you know* are probably *immoral or evil* and you don’t even realize it. It really affected my ideas of how to *strive* to live.\n
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            Here is a good video explaining the idea in detail, worth 30m of your time.\n
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            [Peter Singer - ordinary people are evil](https://youtu.be/KVl5kMXz1vA)
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            > That’s quite the claim.\n
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            **Yes**, it is, and as explained in the video the original author (and also the person explaining it) *admit* it is quite a claim, then proceed to demonstrate the veracity of the claim. I suggest you grab a cup of jo, settle in, and watch it. It addresses the points you bring up *directly*.\n
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            You’ve committed *reductio ad absurdum*.\n
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            Yes, most people are *probably* acting immorally and they are not even aware of it.\n
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            That doesn’t mean it is *a pointless exercise* to identify the immoral behavior and *strive* to reduce or eliminate it, even if it is impossible to completely do so.
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            You are (deliberately?) skipping over the part of *awareness*.\n
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            Take for example a person who is aware that they cannot act morally when making seemingly normal, banal decisions. For example, they may be aware that when they choose to buy a shiny new cell phone when they have an older-but-still-perfectly-working model, they *very likely* doing something immoral. Because they are aware of the moral implications of their choice, they can choose hold-off buying a new phone for as long as possible (a morally-positive choice) and *perhaps* - going a step further - even using that money they would have spent on a new phone to help another person in need directly.\n
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            I do not take issue with anything you said (your opinion is as valid as mine) - up until your last sentence, which piqued my interest.\n
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            You seem to be implying that Mr Singer’s “radical ideas” are weak, invalid, or beneath consideration because our society hasn’t embedded them yet. I would like to respond that I think the value of a radical idea cannot, and probably should not, be measured by how well society accepts it. For example, there are a some pretty famous, radical ideas from this rabbi a couple thousand years ago that have totally failed to be embedded in our society, yet his radical ideas arguably still have significant merit. I am thinking specifically of the radical idea of kindness and peace expressed in “turning the other cheek”, an idea we, as a society, have for all intents and purposes rejected.\n
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      > I probably did a dozen immoral things before breakfast this morning.\n
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      Sure, certainly, yes, I’ll accept your admission at face value, **but** could you have done fewer?
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        For me it is **Cellular Automata**, and more precisely the **Game of Life**.\n
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        Imagine a giant Excel spreadsheet where the cells are randomly chosen to be either “alive” or “dead”. Each cell then follows a handful of simple rules.\n
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            I am focusing on the “blow my mind” part, rather than the “beautiful” part of your question, but I am certain many philosophically-minded people would consider the following “beautiful”.\n
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            Peter Singer’s argument in “Famine, Affluence, and Morality (1972)” that *you and most everyone you know* are probably *immoral or evil* and you don’t even realize it. It really affected my ideas of how to *strive* to live.\n
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            Here is a good video explaining the idea in detail, worth 30m of your time.\n
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            [Peter Singer - ordinary people are evil](https://youtu.be/KVl5kMXz1vA)
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            > That’s quite the claim.\n
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            **Yes**, it is, and as explained in the video the original author (and also the person explaining it) *admit* it is quite a claim, then proceed to demonstrate the veracity of the claim. I suggest you grab a cup of jo, settle in, and watch it. It addresses the points you bring up *directly*.\n
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            You’ve committed *reductio ad absurdum*.\n
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            Yes, most people are *probably* acting immorally and they are not even aware of it.\n
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            That doesn’t mean it is *a pointless exercise* to identify the immoral behavior and *strive* to reduce or eliminate it, even if it is impossible to completely do so.
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            You are (deliberately?) skipping over the part of *awareness*.\n
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            Take for example a person who is aware that they cannot act morally when making seemingly normal, banal decisions. For example, they may be aware that when they choose to buy a shiny new cell phone when they have an older-but-still-perfectly-working model, they *very likely* doing something immoral. Because they are aware of the moral implications of their choice, they can choose hold-off buying a new phone for as long as possible (a morally-positive choice) and *perhaps* - going a step further - even using that money they would have spent on a new phone to help another person in need directly.\n
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            *Most* people probably don’t contemplate the moral implications of the purchase of a new phone, *this is true* and I accept your position this. But it is clearly not “literally every person” as you have said, since it only takes a single person with awareness to disprove your statement. I am certain *at least* one such person exists (even if anecdotally), so I rely on the word “most” rather than “literally every”.
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            I do not take issue with anything you said (your opinion is as valid as mine) - up until your last sentence, which piqued my interest.\n
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            You seem to be implying that Mr Singer’s “radical ideas” are weak, invalid, or beneath consideration because our society hasn’t embedded them yet. I would like to respond that I think the value of a radical idea cannot, and probably should not, be measured by how well society accepts it. For example, there are a some pretty famous, radical ideas from this rabbi a couple thousand years ago that have totally failed to be embedded in our society, yet his radical ideas arguably still have significant merit. I am thinking specifically of the radical idea of kindness and peace expressed in “turning the other cheek”, an idea we, as a society, have for all intents and purposes rejected.\n
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            Otherwise, I would also like to remind you that the OP just asked for ideas that blew our minds. Mr Singer’s idea, when I heard it for the first time, blew mine and I thought it fit the brief.
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            I am focusing on the “blow my mind” part, rather than the “beautiful” part of your question, but I am certain many philosophically-minded people would consider the following “beautiful”.\n
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            > That’s quite the claim.\n
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            You’ve committed *reductio ad absurdum*.\n
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            You are (deliberately?) skipping over the part of *awareness*.\n
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            I do not take issue with anything you said (your opinion is as valid as mine) - up until your last sentence, which piqued my interest.\n
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            You seem to be implying that Mr Singer’s “radical ideas” are weak, invalid, or beneath consideration because our society hasn’t embedded them yet. I would like to respond that I think the value of a radical idea cannot, and probably should not, be measured by how well society accepts it. For example, there are a some pretty famous, radical ideas from this rabbi a couple thousand years ago that have totally failed to be embedded in our society, yet his radical ideas arguably still have significant merit. I am thinking specifically of the radical idea of kindness and peace expressed in “turning the other cheek”, an idea we, as a society, have for all intents and purposes rejected.\n
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      > I probably did a dozen immoral things before breakfast this morning.\n
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        Then you sit back and just watch things play out. It turns out that these basic rules at the individual level lead to incredibly complex behaviors at the community level when you zoom out.\n
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        It kinda, sorta, maybe resembles… life.\n
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        There is colonization, reproduction, evolution, and sometimes even [space flight](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IK7nBOLYzdE)!
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            I am focusing on the “blow my mind” part, rather than the “beautiful” part of your question, but I am certain many philosophically-minded people would consider the following “beautiful”.\n
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            Peter Singer’s argument in “Famine, Affluence, and Morality (1972)” that *you and most everyone you know* are probably *immoral or evil* and you don’t even realize it. It really affected my ideas of how to *strive* to live.\n
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            Here is a good video explaining the idea in detail, worth 30m of your time.\n
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            [Peter Singer - ordinary people are evil](https://youtu.be/KVl5kMXz1vA)
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            > That’s quite the claim.\n
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            **Yes**, it is, and as explained in the video the original author (and also the person explaining it) *admit* it is quite a claim, then proceed to demonstrate the veracity of the claim. I suggest you grab a cup of jo, settle in, and watch it. It addresses the points you bring up *directly*.\n
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            You’ve committed *reductio ad absurdum*.\n
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            Yes, most people are *probably* acting immorally and they are not even aware of it.\n
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            That doesn’t mean it is *a pointless exercise* to identify the immoral behavior and *strive* to reduce or eliminate it, even if it is impossible to completely do so.
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            You are (deliberately?) skipping over the part of *awareness*.\n
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            Take for example a person who is aware that they cannot act morally when making seemingly normal, banal decisions. For example, they may be aware that when they choose to buy a shiny new cell phone when they have an older-but-still-perfectly-working model, they *very likely* doing something immoral. Because they are aware of the moral implications of their choice, they can choose hold-off buying a new phone for as long as possible (a morally-positive choice) and *perhaps* - going a step further - even using that money they would have spent on a new phone to help another person in need directly.\n
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            I do not take issue with anything you said (your opinion is as valid as mine) - up until your last sentence, which piqued my interest.\n
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            You seem to be implying that Mr Singer’s “radical ideas” are weak, invalid, or beneath consideration because our society hasn’t embedded them yet. I would like to respond that I think the value of a radical idea cannot, and probably should not, be measured by how well society accepts it. For example, there are a some pretty famous, radical ideas from this rabbi a couple thousand years ago that have totally failed to be embedded in our society, yet his radical ideas arguably still have significant merit. I am thinking specifically of the radical idea of kindness and peace expressed in “turning the other cheek”, an idea we, as a society, have for all intents and purposes rejected.\n
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      > I probably did a dozen immoral things before breakfast this morning.\n
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        For me it is **Cellular Automata**, and more precisely the **Game of Life**.\n
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        Imagine a giant Excel spreadsheet where the cells are randomly chosen to be either “alive” or “dead”. Each cell then follows a handful of simple rules.\n
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        There is colonization, reproduction, evolution, and sometimes even [space flight](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IK7nBOLYzdE)!
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            I am focusing on the “blow my mind” part, rather than the “beautiful” part of your question, but I am certain many philosophically-minded people would consider the following “beautiful”.\n
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            Peter Singer’s argument in “Famine, Affluence, and Morality (1972)” that *you and most everyone you know* are probably *immoral or evil* and you don’t even realize it. It really affected my ideas of how to *strive* to live.\n
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            Here is a good video explaining the idea in detail, worth 30m of your time.\n
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            [Peter Singer - ordinary people are evil](https://youtu.be/KVl5kMXz1vA)
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            > That’s quite the claim.\n
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            **Yes**, it is, and as explained in the video the original author (and also the person explaining it) *admit* it is quite a claim, then proceed to demonstrate the veracity of the claim. I suggest you grab a cup of jo, settle in, and watch it. It addresses the points you bring up *directly*.\n
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            You’ve committed *reductio ad absurdum*.\n
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            Yes, most people are *probably* acting immorally and they are not even aware of it.\n
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            That doesn’t mean it is *a pointless exercise* to identify the immoral behavior and *strive* to reduce or eliminate it, even if it is impossible to completely do so.
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            You are (deliberately?) skipping over the part of *awareness*.\n
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            Take for example a person who is aware that they cannot act morally when making seemingly normal, banal decisions. For example, they may be aware that when they choose to buy a shiny new cell phone when they have an older-but-still-perfectly-working model, they *very likely* doing something immoral. Because they are aware of the moral implications of their choice, they can choose hold-off buying a new phone for as long as possible (a morally-positive choice) and *perhaps* - going a step further - even using that money they would have spent on a new phone to help another person in need directly.\n
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            *Most* people probably don’t contemplate the moral implications of the purchase of a new phone, *this is true* and I accept your position this. But it is clearly not “literally every person” as you have said, since it only takes a single person with awareness to disprove your statement. I am certain *at least* one such person exists (even if anecdotally), so I rely on the word “most” rather than “literally every”.
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            I do not take issue with anything you said (your opinion is as valid as mine) - up until your last sentence, which piqued my interest.\n
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            You seem to be implying that Mr Singer’s “radical ideas” are weak, invalid, or beneath consideration because our society hasn’t embedded them yet. I would like to respond that I think the value of a radical idea cannot, and probably should not, be measured by how well society accepts it. For example, there are a some pretty famous, radical ideas from this rabbi a couple thousand years ago that have totally failed to be embedded in our society, yet his radical ideas arguably still have significant merit. I am thinking specifically of the radical idea of kindness and peace expressed in “turning the other cheek”, an idea we, as a society, have for all intents and purposes rejected.\n
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            I am focusing on the “blow my mind” part, rather than the “beautiful” part of your question, but I am certain many philosophically-minded people would consider the following “beautiful”.\n
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            > That’s quite the claim.\n
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            You’ve committed *reductio ad absurdum*.\n
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            Yes, most people are *probably* acting immorally and they are not even aware of it.\n
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            That doesn’t mean it is *a pointless exercise* to identify the immoral behavior and *strive* to reduce or eliminate it, even if it is impossible to completely do so.
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            You are (deliberately?) skipping over the part of *awareness*.\n
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            Take for example a person who is aware that they cannot act morally when making seemingly normal, banal decisions. For example, they may be aware that when they choose to buy a shiny new cell phone when they have an older-but-still-perfectly-working model, they *very likely* doing something immoral. Because they are aware of the moral implications of their choice, they can choose hold-off buying a new phone for as long as possible (a morally-positive choice) and *perhaps* - going a step further - even using that money they would have spent on a new phone to help another person in need directly.\n
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            *Most* people probably don’t contemplate the moral implications of the purchase of a new phone, *this is true* and I accept your position this. But it is clearly not “literally every person” as you have said, since it only takes a single person with awareness to disprove your statement. I am certain *at least* one such person exists (even if anecdotally), so I rely on the word “most” rather than “literally every”.
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            > I probably did a dozen immoral things before breakfast this morning.\n
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            Sure, certainly, yes, I’ll accept your admission at face value, **but** could you have done fewer?
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      I do not take issue with anything you said (your opinion is as valid as mine) - up until your last sentence, which piqued my interest.\n
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      You seem to be implying that Mr Singer’s “radical ideas” are weak, invalid, or beneath consideration because our society hasn’t embedded them yet. I would like to respond that I think the value of a radical idea cannot, and probably should not, be measured by how well society accepts it. For example, there are a some pretty famous, radical ideas from this rabbi a couple thousand years ago that have totally failed to be embedded in our society, yet his radical ideas arguably still have significant merit. I am thinking specifically of the radical idea of kindness and peace expressed in “turning the other cheek”, an idea we, as a society, have for all intents and purposes rejected.\n
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        For me it is **Cellular Automata**, and more precisely the **Game of Life**.\n
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        Imagine a giant Excel spreadsheet where the cells are randomly chosen to be either “alive” or “dead”. Each cell then follows a handful of simple rules.\n
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            I am focusing on the “blow my mind” part, rather than the “beautiful” part of your question, but I am certain many philosophically-minded people would consider the following “beautiful”.\n
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            Peter Singer’s argument in “Famine, Affluence, and Morality (1972)” that *you and most everyone you know* are probably *immoral or evil* and you don’t even realize it. It really affected my ideas of how to *strive* to live.\n
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            Here is a good video explaining the idea in detail, worth 30m of your time.\n
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            [Peter Singer - ordinary people are evil](https://youtu.be/KVl5kMXz1vA)
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            > That’s quite the claim.\n
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            **Yes**, it is, and as explained in the video the original author (and also the person explaining it) *admit* it is quite a claim, then proceed to demonstrate the veracity of the claim. I suggest you grab a cup of jo, settle in, and watch it. It addresses the points you bring up *directly*.\n
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            [EDIT: Re: Quite a Claim: Yes, and thus fitting the OP’s “mind-blowing” criteria for the thread :-)]\n
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            The *very* short answer to “are you immoral for purchasing a cell phone” is “*probably* yes”.\n
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            You’ve committed *reductio ad absurdum*.\n
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            Yes, most people are *probably* acting immorally and they are not even aware of it.\n
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            That doesn’t mean it is *a pointless exercise* to identify the immoral behavior and *strive* to reduce or eliminate it, even if it is impossible to completely do so.
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            You are (deliberately?) skipping over the part of *awareness*.\n
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            Take for example a person who is aware that they cannot act morally when making seemingly normal, banal decisions. For example, they may be aware that when they choose to buy a shiny new cell phone when they have an older-but-still-perfectly-working model, they *very likely* doing something immoral. Because they are aware of the moral implications of their choice, they can choose hold-off buying a new phone for as long as possible (a morally-positive choice) and *perhaps* - going a step further - even using that money they would have spent on a new phone to help another person in need directly.\n
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            *Most* people probably don’t contemplate the moral implications of the purchase of a new phone, *this is true* and I accept your position this. But it is clearly not “literally every person” as you have said, since it only takes a single person with awareness to disprove your statement. I am certain *at least* one such person exists (even if anecdotally), so I rely on the word “most” rather than “literally every”.
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            > I probably did a dozen immoral things before breakfast this morning.\n
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            Sure, certainly, yes, I’ll accept your admission at face value, **but** could you have done fewer?
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      I do not take issue with anything you said (your opinion is as valid as mine) - up until your last sentence, which piqued my interest.\n
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      You seem to be implying that Mr Singer’s “radical ideas” are weak, invalid, or beneath consideration because our society hasn’t embedded them yet. I would like to respond that I think the value of a radical idea cannot, and probably should not, be measured by how well society accepts it. For example, there are a some pretty famous, radical ideas from this rabbi a couple thousand years ago that have totally failed to be embedded in our society, yet his radical ideas arguably still have significant merit. I am thinking specifically of the radical idea of kindness and peace expressed in “turning the other cheek”, an idea we, as a society, have for all intents and purposes rejected.\n
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        For me it is **Cellular Automata**, and more precisely the **Game of Life**.\n
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        Imagine a giant Excel spreadsheet where the cells are randomly chosen to be either “alive” or “dead”. Each cell then follows a handful of simple rules.\n
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        There is colonization, reproduction, evolution, and sometimes even [space flight](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IK7nBOLYzdE)!
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            I am focusing on the “blow my mind” part, rather than the “beautiful” part of your question, but I am certain many philosophically-minded people would consider the following “beautiful”.\n
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            Peter Singer’s argument in “Famine, Affluence, and Morality (1972)” that *you and most everyone you know* are probably *immoral or evil* and you don’t even realize it. It really affected my ideas of how to *strive* to live.\n
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            Here is a good video explaining the idea in detail, worth 30m of your time.\n
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            [Peter Singer - ordinary people are evil](https://youtu.be/KVl5kMXz1vA)
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            > That’s quite the claim.\n
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            **Yes**, it is, and as explained in the video the original author (and also the person explaining it) *admit* it is quite a claim, then proceed to demonstrate the veracity of the claim. I suggest you grab a cup of jo, settle in, and watch it. It addresses the points you bring up *directly*.\n
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            The *very* short answer to “are you immoral for purchasing a cell phone” is “*probably* yes”.\n
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            You’ve committed *reductio ad absurdum*.\n
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            Yes, most people are *probably* acting immorally and they are not even aware of it.\n
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            That doesn’t mean it is *a pointless exercise* to identify the immoral behavior and *strive* to reduce or eliminate it, even if it is impossible to completely do so.
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            You are (deliberately?) skipping over the part of *awareness*.\n
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            Take for example a person who is aware that they cannot act morally when making seemingly normal, banal decisions. For example, they may be aware that when they choose to buy a shiny new cell phone when they have an older-but-still-perfectly-working model, they *very likely* doing something immoral. Because they are aware of the moral implications of their choice, they can choose hold-off buying a new phone for as long as possible (a morally-positive choice) and *perhaps* - going a step further - even using that money they would have spent on a new phone to help another person in need directly.\n
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            *Most* people probably don’t contemplate the moral implications of the purchase of a new phone, *this is true* and I accept your position this. But it is clearly not “literally every person” as you have said, since it only takes a single person with awareness to disprove your statement. I am certain *at least* one such person exists (even if anecdotally), so I rely on the word “most” rather than “literally every”.
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            > I probably did a dozen immoral things before breakfast this morning.\n
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            Sure, certainly, yes, I’ll accept your admission at face value, **but** could you have done fewer?
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      I do not take issue with anything you said (your opinion is as valid as mine) - up until your last sentence, which piqued my interest.\n
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      You seem to be implying that Mr Singer’s “radical ideas” are weak, invalid, or beneath consideration because our society hasn’t embedded them yet. I would like to respond that I think the value of a radical idea cannot, and probably should not, be measured by how well society accepts it. For example, there are a some pretty famous, radical ideas from this rabbi a couple thousand years ago that have totally failed to be embedded in our society, yet his radical ideas arguably still have significant merit. I am thinking specifically of the radical idea of kindness and peace expressed in “turning the other cheek”, an idea we, as a society, have for all intents and purposes rejected.\n
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      Otherwise, I would also like to remind you that the OP just asked for ideas that blew our minds. Mr Singer’s idea, when I heard it for the first time, blew mine and I thought it fit the brief.
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          A loosely moderated place to ask open-ended questions\n
          \n
          **[Search asklemmy](https://lemmy.ml/search?q=&type=Posts&listingType=All&communityId=8&page=1&sort=TopAll) 🔍**\n
          \n
          If your post meets the following criteria, it’s welcome here!\n
          \n
          1. Open-ended\n
          2. Not offensive: at this point, we do not have the bandwidth to moderate overtly political discussions\n
          3. **Not regarding using or support for Lemmy**: [context](https://lemmy.ml/post/1223478), find help in the list of support alternatives below\n
          4. Not ad nauseam inducing: please make sure it is a question that would be new to most members\n
          5. [An actual topic of discussion](https://lemmy.ml/post/1239589)\n
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          Support alternatives:\n
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          ~Icon~ ~by~ ~@Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de~
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      +slug: "What-is-a-beautiful-concept-or-idea-that-continues-to"
      +title: "What is a beautiful concept or idea that continues to blow your mind?"
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        For me it is **Cellular Automata**, and more precisely the **Game of Life**.\n
        \n
        Imagine a giant Excel spreadsheet where the cells are randomly chosen to be either “alive” or “dead”. Each cell then follows a handful of simple rules.\n
        \n
        For example, if a cell is “alive” but has less than 2 “alive” neighbors it “dies” by under-population. If the cell is “alive” and has more than three “alive” neighbors it “dies” from over-population, etc.\n
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        Then you sit back and just watch things play out. It turns out that these basic rules at the individual level lead to incredibly complex behaviors at the community level when you zoom out.\n
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        It kinda, sorta, maybe resembles… life.\n
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        There is colonization, reproduction, evolution, and sometimes even [space flight](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IK7nBOLYzdE)!
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            I am focusing on the “blow my mind” part, rather than the “beautiful” part of your question, but I am certain many philosophically-minded people would consider the following “beautiful”.\n
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            Peter Singer’s argument in “Famine, Affluence, and Morality (1972)” that *you and most everyone you know* are probably *immoral or evil* and you don’t even realize it. It really affected my ideas of how to *strive* to live.\n
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            Here is a good video explaining the idea in detail, worth 30m of your time.\n
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            [Peter Singer - ordinary people are evil](https://youtu.be/KVl5kMXz1vA)
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            > That’s quite the claim.\n
            \n
            **Yes**, it is, and as explained in the video the original author (and also the person explaining it) *admit* it is quite a claim, then proceed to demonstrate the veracity of the claim. I suggest you grab a cup of jo, settle in, and watch it. It addresses the points you bring up *directly*.\n
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            [EDIT: Re: Quite a Claim: Yes, and thus fitting the OP’s “mind-blowing” criteria for the thread :-)]\n
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            The *very* short answer to “are you immoral for purchasing a cell phone” is “*probably* yes”.\n
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            You’ve committed *reductio ad absurdum*.\n
            \n
            Yes, most people are *probably* acting immorally and they are not even aware of it.\n
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            That doesn’t mean it is *a pointless exercise* to identify the immoral behavior and *strive* to reduce or eliminate it, even if it is impossible to completely do so.
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            You are (deliberately?) skipping over the part of *awareness*.\n
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            Take for example a person who is aware that they cannot act morally when making seemingly normal, banal decisions. For example, they may be aware that when they choose to buy a shiny new cell phone when they have an older-but-still-perfectly-working model, they *very likely* doing something immoral. Because they are aware of the moral implications of their choice, they can choose hold-off buying a new phone for as long as possible (a morally-positive choice) and *perhaps* - going a step further - even using that money they would have spent on a new phone to help another person in need directly.\n
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            *Most* people probably don’t contemplate the moral implications of the purchase of a new phone, *this is true* and I accept your position this. But it is clearly not “literally every person” as you have said, since it only takes a single person with awareness to disprove your statement. I am certain *at least* one such person exists (even if anecdotally), so I rely on the word “most” rather than “literally every”.
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            > I probably did a dozen immoral things before breakfast this morning.\n
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      I do not take issue with anything you said (your opinion is as valid as mine) - up until your last sentence, which piqued my interest.\n
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      You seem to be implying that Mr Singer’s “radical ideas” are weak, invalid, or beneath consideration because our society hasn’t embedded them yet. I would like to respond that I think the value of a radical idea cannot, and probably should not, be measured by how well society accepts it. For example, there are a some pretty famous, radical ideas from this rabbi a couple thousand years ago that have totally failed to be embedded in our society, yet his radical ideas arguably still have significant merit. I am thinking specifically of the radical idea of kindness and peace expressed in “turning the other cheek”, an idea we, as a society, have for all intents and purposes rejected.\n
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            > That’s quite the claim.\n
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            **Yes**, it is, and as explained in the video the original author (and also the person explaining it) *admit* it is quite a claim, then proceed to demonstrate the veracity of the claim. I suggest you grab a cup of jo, settle in, and watch it. It addresses the points you bring up *directly*.\n
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            [EDIT: Re: Quite a Claim: Yes, and thus fitting the OP’s “mind-blowing” criteria for the thread :-)]\n
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            The *very* short answer to “are you immoral for purchasing a cell phone” is “*probably* yes”.\n
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            You’ve committed *reductio ad absurdum*.\n
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            Yes, most people are *probably* acting immorally and they are not even aware of it.\n
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            That doesn’t mean it is *a pointless exercise* to identify the immoral behavior and *strive* to reduce or eliminate it, even if it is impossible to completely do so.
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            You are (deliberately?) skipping over the part of *awareness*.\n
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            Take for example a person who is aware that they cannot act morally when making seemingly normal, banal decisions. For example, they may be aware that when they choose to buy a shiny new cell phone when they have an older-but-still-perfectly-working model, they *very likely* doing something immoral. Because they are aware of the moral implications of their choice, they can choose hold-off buying a new phone for as long as possible (a morally-positive choice) and *perhaps* - going a step further - even using that money they would have spent on a new phone to help another person in need directly.\n
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            *Most* people probably don’t contemplate the moral implications of the purchase of a new phone, *this is true* and I accept your position this. But it is clearly not “literally every person” as you have said, since it only takes a single person with awareness to disprove your statement. I am certain *at least* one such person exists (even if anecdotally), so I rely on the word “most” rather than “literally every”.
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            > I probably did a dozen immoral things before breakfast this morning.\n
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            Sure, certainly, yes, I’ll accept your admission at face value, **but** could you have done fewer?
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      I do not take issue with anything you said (your opinion is as valid as mine) - up until your last sentence, which piqued my interest.\n
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      You seem to be implying that Mr Singer’s “radical ideas” are weak, invalid, or beneath consideration because our society hasn’t embedded them yet. I would like to respond that I think the value of a radical idea cannot, and probably should not, be measured by how well society accepts it. For example, there are a some pretty famous, radical ideas from this rabbi a couple thousand years ago that have totally failed to be embedded in our society, yet his radical ideas arguably still have significant merit. I am thinking specifically of the radical idea of kindness and peace expressed in “turning the other cheek”, an idea we, as a society, have for all intents and purposes rejected.\n
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        For me it is **Cellular Automata**, and more precisely the **Game of Life**.\n
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        Imagine a giant Excel spreadsheet where the cells are randomly chosen to be either “alive” or “dead”. Each cell then follows a handful of simple rules.\n
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            I am focusing on the “blow my mind” part, rather than the “beautiful” part of your question, but I am certain many philosophically-minded people would consider the following “beautiful”.\n
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            Peter Singer’s argument in “Famine, Affluence, and Morality (1972)” that *you and most everyone you know* are probably *immoral or evil* and you don’t even realize it. It really affected my ideas of how to *strive* to live.\n
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            Here is a good video explaining the idea in detail, worth 30m of your time.\n
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            [Peter Singer - ordinary people are evil](https://youtu.be/KVl5kMXz1vA)
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            > That’s quite the claim.\n
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            **Yes**, it is, and as explained in the video the original author (and also the person explaining it) *admit* it is quite a claim, then proceed to demonstrate the veracity of the claim. I suggest you grab a cup of jo, settle in, and watch it. It addresses the points you bring up *directly*.\n
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            You’ve committed *reductio ad absurdum*.\n
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            Yes, most people are *probably* acting immorally and they are not even aware of it.\n
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            That doesn’t mean it is *a pointless exercise* to identify the immoral behavior and *strive* to reduce or eliminate it, even if it is impossible to completely do so.
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            You are (deliberately?) skipping over the part of *awareness*.\n
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            *Most* people probably don’t contemplate the moral implications of the purchase of a new phone, *this is true* and I accept your position this. But it is clearly not “literally every person” as you have said, since it only takes a single person with awareness to disprove your statement. I am certain *at least* one such person exists (even if anecdotally), so I rely on the word “most” rather than “literally every”.
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            > I probably did a dozen immoral things before breakfast this morning.\n
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            Sure, certainly, yes, I’ll accept your admission at face value, **but** could you have done fewer?
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      I do not take issue with anything you said (your opinion is as valid as mine) - up until your last sentence, which piqued my interest.\n
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      You seem to be implying that Mr Singer’s “radical ideas” are weak, invalid, or beneath consideration because our society hasn’t embedded them yet. I would like to respond that I think the value of a radical idea cannot, and probably should not, be measured by how well society accepts it. For example, there are a some pretty famous, radical ideas from this rabbi a couple thousand years ago that have totally failed to be embedded in our society, yet his radical ideas arguably still have significant merit. I am thinking specifically of the radical idea of kindness and peace expressed in “turning the other cheek”, an idea we, as a society, have for all intents and purposes rejected.\n
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      Otherwise, I would also like to remind you that the OP just asked for ideas that blew our minds. Mr Singer’s idea, when I heard it for the first time, blew mine and I thought it fit the brief.
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settings_row_enum App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowEnumComponent 12.0 MiB 0.20 ms
Input props
[
  "label" => "Sidebar position"
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_GENERAL_SIDEBAR_POSITION"
  "values" => [
    [
      "name" => "Left"
      "value" => "LEFT"
    ]
    [
      "name" => "Right"
      "value" => "RIGHT"
    ]
  ]
  "defaultValue" => "RIGHT"
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowEnumComponent {#7673
  +label: "Sidebar position"
  +help: ""
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_GENERAL_SIDEBAR_POSITION"
  +values: [
    [
      "name" => "Left"
      "value" => "LEFT"
    ]
    [
      "name" => "Right"
      "value" => "RIGHT"
    ]
  ]
  +defaultValue: "RIGHT"
  +reloadRequired: true
}
settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent 12.0 MiB 0.20 ms
Input props
[
  "label" => "Dynamic lists"
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_GENERAL_DYNAMIC_LISTS"
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#7745
  +label: "Dynamic lists"
  +help: ""
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_GENERAL_DYNAMIC_LISTS"
  +defaultValue: false
  +reloadRequired: true
}
settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent 12.0 MiB 0.12 ms
Input props
[
  "label" => "Rounded edges"
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_GENERAL_ROUNDED_EDGES"
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#7808
  +label: "Rounded edges"
  +help: ""
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_GENERAL_ROUNDED_EDGES"
  +defaultValue: false
  +reloadRequired: true
}
settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent 12.0 MiB 0.12 ms
Input props
[
  "label" => "Infinite scrolling"
  "help" => "Automatically load more content when you reach the bottom of the page."
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_GENERAL_INFINITE_SCROLL"
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#7864
  +label: "Infinite scrolling"
  +help: "Automatically load more content when you reach the bottom of the page."
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_GENERAL_INFINITE_SCROLL"
  +defaultValue: false
  +reloadRequired: true
}
settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent 12.0 MiB 0.16 ms
Input props
[
  "label" => "Sticky navbar"
  "help" => "The navbar will stick to the top of the page when you scroll down."
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_GENERAL_FIXED_NAVBAR"
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#7923
  +label: "Sticky navbar"
  +help: "The navbar will stick to the top of the page when you scroll down."
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_GENERAL_FIXED_NAVBAR"
  +defaultValue: false
  +reloadRequired: true
}
settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent 12.0 MiB 0.15 ms
Input props
[
  "label" => "Show top bar"
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_GENERAL_TOPBAR"
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#7979
  +label: "Show top bar"
  +help: ""
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_GENERAL_TOPBAR"
  +defaultValue: false
  +reloadRequired: true
}
settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent 12.0 MiB 0.12 ms
Input props
[
  "label" => "Turbo mode (experimental)"
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_GENERAL_TURBO"
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#8035
  +label: "Turbo mode (experimental)"
  +help: ""
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_GENERAL_TURBO"
  +defaultValue: false
  +reloadRequired: true
}
user_settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\UserSettingsRowSwitchComponent 12.0 MiB 0.21 ms
Input props
[
  "label" => "Mark new comments"
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_MARK_NEW_COMMENTS"
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\UserSettingsRowSwitchComponent {#8093
  +label: "Mark new comments"
  +help: ""
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_MARK_NEW_COMMENTS"
  +defaultValue: false
  +reloadRequired: true
}
settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent 12.0 MiB 0.14 ms
Input props
[
  "label" => "Show "Support Us" block"
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_GENERAL_SUPPORT_US_BLOCK"
  "defaultValue" => true
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#8156
  +label: "Show "Support Us" block"
  +help: ""
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_GENERAL_SUPPORT_US_BLOCK"
  +defaultValue: true
  +reloadRequired: true
}
user_settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\UserSettingsRowSwitchComponent 12.0 MiB 0.14 ms
Input props
[
  "label" => "Show subscribed users"
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_SUB_CHANNEL_USERS"
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\UserSettingsRowSwitchComponent {#8214
  +label: "Show subscribed users"
  +help: ""
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_SUB_CHANNEL_USERS"
  +defaultValue: false
  +reloadRequired: true
}
user_settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\UserSettingsRowSwitchComponent 12.0 MiB 0.14 ms
Input props
[
  "label" => "Show subscribed magazines"
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_SUB_CHANNEL_MAGAZINES"
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\UserSettingsRowSwitchComponent {#8270
  +label: "Show subscribed magazines"
  +help: ""
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_SUB_CHANNEL_MAGAZINES"
  +defaultValue: false
  +reloadRequired: true
}
user_settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\UserSettingsRowSwitchComponent 12.0 MiB 0.15 ms
Input props
[
  "label" => "Show subscribed domains"
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_SUB_CHANNEL_DOMAINS"
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\UserSettingsRowSwitchComponent {#8326
  +label: "Show subscribed domains"
  +help: ""
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_SUB_CHANNEL_DOMAINS"
  +defaultValue: false
  +reloadRequired: true
}
settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent 12.0 MiB 0.15 ms
Input props
[
  "label" => "Auto media preview"
  "help" => "Automatically expand media previews."
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_ENTRIES_SHOW_PREVIEW"
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#8382
  +label: "Auto media preview"
  +help: "Automatically expand media previews."
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_ENTRIES_SHOW_PREVIEW"
  +defaultValue: false
  +reloadRequired: true
}
settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent 12.0 MiB 0.38 ms
Input props
[
  "label" => "Compact view"
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_ENTRIES_COMPACT"
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#8438
  +label: "Compact view"
  +help: ""
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_ENTRIES_COMPACT"
  +defaultValue: false
  +reloadRequired: true
}
settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent 12.0 MiB 0.13 ms
Input props
[
  "label" => "Show users’ avatars"
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_ENTRIES_SHOW_USERS_AVATARS"
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#8494
  +label: "Show users’ avatars"
  +help: ""
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_ENTRIES_SHOW_USERS_AVATARS"
  +defaultValue: false
  +reloadRequired: true
}
settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent 12.0 MiB 0.13 ms
Input props
[
  "label" => "Show magazines’ icons"
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_ENTRIES_SHOW_MAGAZINES_ICONS"
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#8550
  +label: "Show magazines’ icons"
  +help: ""
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_ENTRIES_SHOW_MAGAZINES_ICONS"
  +defaultValue: false
  +reloadRequired: true
}
settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent 12.0 MiB 0.12 ms
Input props
[
  "label" => "Show thumbnails"
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_ENTRIES_SHOW_THUMBNAILS"
  "defaultValue" => true
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#8606
  +label: "Show thumbnails"
  +help: ""
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_ENTRIES_SHOW_THUMBNAILS"
  +defaultValue: true
  +reloadRequired: true
}
settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent 12.0 MiB 0.12 ms
Input props
[
  "label" => "Auto media preview"
  "help" => "Automatically expand media previews."
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_POSTS_SHOW_PREVIEW"
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#8662
  +label: "Auto media preview"
  +help: "Automatically expand media previews."
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_POSTS_SHOW_PREVIEW"
  +defaultValue: false
  +reloadRequired: true
}
settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent 12.0 MiB 0.12 ms
Input props
[
  "label" => "Show users’ avatars"
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_POSTS_SHOW_USERS_AVATARS"
  "defaultValue" => true
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#8718
  +label: "Show users’ avatars"
  +help: ""
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_POSTS_SHOW_USERS_AVATARS"
  +defaultValue: true
  +reloadRequired: true
}
settings_row_enum App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowEnumComponent 12.0 MiB 0.15 ms
Input props
[
  "label" => "Comment reply position"
  "help" => "Display the comment reply form either at the top or bottom of the page. When 'infinite scroll' is enabled the position will always appear at the top."
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_COMMENTS_REPLY_POSITION"
  "values" => [
    [
      "name" => "top"
      "value" => "TOP"
    ]
    [
      "name" => "bottom"
      "value" => "BOTTOM"
    ]
  ]
  "defaultValue" => "TOP"
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowEnumComponent {#8774
  +label: "Comment reply position"
  +help: "Display the comment reply form either at the top or bottom of the page. When 'infinite scroll' is enabled the position will always appear at the top."
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_COMMENTS_REPLY_POSITION"
  +values: [
    [
      "name" => "top"
      "value" => "TOP"
    ]
    [
      "name" => "bottom"
      "value" => "BOTTOM"
    ]
  ]
  +defaultValue: "TOP"
  +reloadRequired: true
}
settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent 12.0 MiB 0.13 ms
Input props
[
  "label" => "Show Comment Avatars"
  "help" => "Display/hide user avatars when viewing comments on a single thread or post."
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_COMMENTS_SHOW_USER_AVATAR"
  "defaultValue" => true
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#8832
  +label: "Show Comment Avatars"
  +help: "Display/hide user avatars when viewing comments on a single thread or post."
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_COMMENTS_SHOW_USER_AVATAR"
  +defaultValue: true
  +reloadRequired: true
}
date App\Twig\Components\DateComponent 12.0 MiB 0.13 ms
Input props
[
  "date" => DateTimeImmutable @1689167480 {#275
    date: 2023-07-12 15:11:20.0 +02:00
  }
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\DateComponent {#8905
  +date: DateTimeImmutable @1689167480 {#275
    date: 2023-07-12 15:11:20.0 +02:00
  }
}
related_magazines App\Twig\Components\RelatedMagazinesComponent 12.0 MiB 1.85 ms
Input props
[
  "magazine" => null
  "tag" => null
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\RelatedMagazinesComponent {#8992
  +limit: 4
  +tag: null
  +magazine: null
  +type: "random"
  +title: "random_magazines"
  +refreshedRandom: false
  -repository: App\Repository\MagazineRepository {#2436 …}
  -cache: Symfony\Component\Cache\Adapter\TraceableTagAwareAdapter {#600 …}
  -twig: Twig\Environment {#1252 …}
  -requestStack: Symfony\Component\HttpFoundation\RequestStack {#1328 …}
}
active_users App\Twig\Components\ActiveUsersComponent 12.0 MiB 0.22 ms
Input props
[
  "magazine" => null
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\ActiveUsersComponent {#9057
  +magazine: null
  -userRepository: App\Repository\UserRepository {#603 …}
  -cache: Symfony\Component\Cache\Adapter\TraceableTagAwareAdapter {#600 …}
  -twig: Twig\Environment {#1252 …}
  -requestStack: Symfony\Component\HttpFoundation\RequestStack {#1328 …}
}
related_categories App\Twig\Components\RelatedCategoriesComponent 12.0 MiB 1.25 ms
Input props
[
  "magazine" => null
  "tag" => null
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\RelatedCategoriesComponent {#9116
  +limit: 4
  +tag: null
  +magazine: null
  +type: "random"
  +title: "random_categories"
  +refreshedRandom: false
  -repository: App\Repository\CategoryRepository {#9117 …}
  -cache: Symfony\Component\Cache\Adapter\TraceableTagAwareAdapter {#600 …}
  -twig: Twig\Environment {#1252 …}
  -requestStack: Symfony\Component\HttpFoundation\RequestStack {#1328 …}
}
related_posts App\Twig\Components\RelatedPostsComponent 12.0 MiB 1.31 ms
Input props
[
  "magazine" => null
  "tag" => null
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\RelatedPostsComponent {#9186
  +limit: 4
  +tag: null
  +magazine: null
  +type: "random"
  +post: null
  +title: "random_posts"
  +refreshedRandom: false
  -repository: App\Repository\PostRepository {#1660 …}
  -cache: Symfony\Component\Cache\Adapter\TraceableTagAwareAdapter {#600 …}
  -twig: Twig\Environment {#1252 …}
  -requestStack: Symfony\Component\HttpFoundation\RequestStack {#1328 …}
  -mentionManager: App\Service\MentionManager {#1406 …}
}
related_entries App\Twig\Components\RelatedEntriesComponent 12.0 MiB 1.33 ms
Input props
[
  "magazine" => null
  "tag" => null
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\RelatedEntriesComponent {#9255
  +limit: 4
  +tag: null
  +magazine: null
  +type: "random"
  +entry: null
  +title: "random_entries"
  +refreshedRandom: false
  -repository: App\Repository\EntryRepository {#1764 …}
  -cache: Symfony\Component\Cache\Adapter\TraceableTagAwareAdapter {#600 …}
  -twig: Twig\Environment {#1252 …}
  -requestStack: Symfony\Component\HttpFoundation\RequestStack {#1328 …}
  -mentionManager: App\Service\MentionManager {#1406 …}
}
support_us_block App\Twig\Components\SupportUsBlock 12.0 MiB 0.19 ms
Input props
[]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SupportUsBlock {#9324
  +subject: ? App\Entity\Contracts\VotableInterface
  +url: ? string
  -twig: Twig\Environment {#1252 …}
  -cache: Symfony\Component\Cache\Adapter\TraceableTagAwareAdapter {#600 …}
  -requestStack: Symfony\Component\HttpFoundation\RequestStack {#1328 …}
  -partnerBlockRepository: App\Repository\PartnerBlockRepository {#9325 …}
}
featured_magazines App\Twig\Components\FeaturedMagazinesComponent 12.0 MiB 0.88 ms
Input props
[
  "magazine" => null
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\FeaturedMagazinesComponent {#9417
  +magazine: null
  -twig: Twig\Environment {#1252 …}
  -repository: App\Repository\MagazineRepository {#2436 …}
}