GET https://kbin.spritesserver.nl/u/@kromem@lemmy.world/hot?p=2

Response
200 OK
IP
188.239.9.203
Profiled on
Token
34dba7

Security

Token

There is no security token.

Firewall

main Name
Security enabled
Stateless

Configuration

Key Value
provider security.user.provider.concrete.app_user_provider
context main
entry_point App\Security\KbinAuthenticator
user_checker App\Security\UserChecker
access_denied_handler (none)
access_denied_url (none)
authenticators 
[
  "two_factor"
  "remember_me"
  "App\Security\KbinAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\FacebookAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\GoogleAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\GithubAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\KeycloakAuthenticator"
]

Listeners

Listener Duration Response 
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\ChannelListener {#723
  -map: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\AccessMap {#722 …}
  -logger: Monolog\Logger {#783 …}
  -httpPort: 80
  -httpsPort: 443
}
 0.00 ms (none) 
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\ContextListener {#706
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\TokenStorage {#1017 …}
  -sessionKey: "_security_main"
  -logger: Monolog\Logger {#783 …}
  -userProviders: Symfony\Component\DependencyInjection\Argument\RewindableGenerator {#705 …}
  -dispatcher: Symfony\Component\EventDispatcher\Debug\TraceableEventDispatcher {#747 …}
  -registered: false
  -trustResolver: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authentication\AuthenticationTrustResolver {#780 …}
  -sessionTrackerEnabler: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage::enableUsageTracking(): void {#703 …}
}
 0.21 ms (none) 
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\AuthenticatorManagerListener {#584
  -authenticatorManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Authentication\AuthenticatorManager {#595 …}
}
 0.00 ms (none) 
Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Http\Firewall\TwoFactorAccessListener {#582
  -twoFactorFirewallConfig: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\TwoFactor\TwoFactorFirewallConfig {#842 …}
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -twoFactorAccessDecider: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\TwoFactorAccessDecider {#581 …}
}
 0.04 ms (none) 
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\AccessListener {#579
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -accessDecisionManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\TraceableAccessDecisionManager {#937 …}
  -map: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\AccessMap {#722 …}
}
 0.00 ms (none) 
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\LogoutListener {#786
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -options: [
    "csrf_parameter" => "_csrf_token"
    "csrf_token_id" => "logout"
    "logout_path" => "app_logout"
  ]
  -httpUtils: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\HttpUtils {#841 …}
  -csrfTokenManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Csrf\CsrfTokenManager {#1015 …}
  -eventDispatcher: Symfony\Component\EventDispatcher\Debug\TraceableEventDispatcher {#747 …}
}
 0.00 ms (none)

Authenticators

No authenticators have been recorded. Check previous profiles on your authentication endpoint.

Access Decision

affirmative Strategy
# Voter class
1 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\AuthenticatedVoter"
2 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
3 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
4 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\ExpressionVoter"
5 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
6 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
7 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
8 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
9 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
10 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
11 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
12 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
13 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
14 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"

Access decision log

# Result Attributes Object
1 DENIED ROLE_USER 
null
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
2 DENIED moderate 
Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#2266
  +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#3331 …}
  +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#2257 …}
  +image: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#3372 …}
  +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#3374 …}
  +slug: "We-must-record-everything"
  +title: "We must record everything"
  +url: "https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/89a47613-b78e-4525-ad75-a8c00d8a1228.jpeg"
  +body: "Via [Poorly Drawn Lines](https://poorlydrawnlines.com)"
  +type: "image"
  +lang: "en"
  +isOc: false
  +hasEmbed: true
  +commentCount: 20
  +favouriteCount: 792
  +score: 0
  +isAdult: false
  +sticky: false
  +lastActive: DateTime @1729269791 {#3367
    date: 2024-10-18 18:43:11.0 +02:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +adaAmount: 0
  +tags: null
  +mentions: null
  +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3375 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3377 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3379 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3381 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3383 …}
  +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3385 …}
  +children: [
    App\Entity\EntryComment {#2270
      +user: App\Entity\User {#261 …}
      +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#2266 …2}
      +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#2257 …}
      +image: null
      +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#2268 …}
      +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#2267 …}
      +body: """
        Yeah, cuneiform was interesting in terms of the medium and how much and how broadly it survived. Their folk tale in terms of how they received the writing was that someone from the ocean arrived and was trying to communicate and pressed reeds into the wet mud.\n
        \n
        I sometimes wonder if there was an Aegean earlier Bronze Age/prehistory writing system (like the one found on the [Dispilio tablet](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proto-writing#/media/File%3ADispilio_signs.jpg)) that has been lost to the ages because it was on a temporary medium and then the Sumerians ended up with a version of writing that persisted in a loosely similar way to their folk history.
        """
      +lang: "en"
      +isAdult: false
      +favouriteCount: 2
      +score: 0
      +lastActive: DateTime @1706487639 {#2204
        date: 2024-01-29 01:20:39.0 +01:00
      }
      +ip: null
      +tags: null
      +mentions: [
        "@realitista@lemmy.world"
        "@kromem@lemmy.world"
        "@tetris11@lemmy.ml"
        "@realitista@lemmy.world"
        "@kromem@lemmy.world"
        "@tetris11@lemmy.ml"
      ]
      +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2273 …}
      +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2274 …}
      +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2190 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2265 …}
      +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2263 …}
      +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2235 …}
      -id: 348389
      -bodyTs: "'/wiki/proto-writing#/media/file%3adispilio_signs.jpg))':71 'aegean':55 'age':78 'age/prehistory':58 'arriv':35 'broad':15 'bronz':57 'communic':40 'cuneiform':2 'dispilio':67 'earlier':56 'en.m.wikipedia.org':70 'en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/proto-writing#/media/file%3adispilio_signs.jpg))':69 'end':90 'folk':19,106 'found':64 'histori':107 'interest':4 'like':61 'loos':101 'lost':75 'medium':9,85 'much':12 'mud':47 'ocean':34 'one':63 'persist':98 'press':42 'receiv':26 'reed':43 'similar':102 'someon':31 'sometim':49 'sumerian':89 'surviv':17 'system':60 'tablet':68 'tale':20 'temporari':84 'term':6,22 'tri':38 'version':94 'way':103 'wet':46 'wonder':50 'write':28,59,96 'yeah':1"
      +ranking: 0
      +commentCount: 0
      +upVotes: 0
      +downVotes: 0
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +apId: "https://lemmy.world/comment/7113436"
      +editedAt: DateTimeImmutable @1729251045 {#2200
        date: 2024-10-18 13:30:45.0 +02:00
      }
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1706487639 {#2211
        date: 2024-01-29 01:20:39.0 +01:00
      }
      +"title": 348389
    }
  ]
  -id: 33496
  -titleTs: "'everyth':4 'must':2 'record':3"
  -bodyTs: "'drawn':3 'line':4 'poor':2 'poorlydrawnlines.com':5 'via':1"
  +cross: false
  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +ranking: 1706467953
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://lemmy.world/post/11255987"
  +editedAt: null
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1706381553 {#3354
    date: 2024-01-27 19:52:33.0 +01:00
  }
  +__isInitialized__: true
   …2
}
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
3 DENIED edit 
Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#2266
  +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#3331 …}
  +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#2257 …}
  +image: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#3372 …}
  +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#3374 …}
  +slug: "We-must-record-everything"
  +title: "We must record everything"
  +url: "https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/89a47613-b78e-4525-ad75-a8c00d8a1228.jpeg"
  +body: "Via [Poorly Drawn Lines](https://poorlydrawnlines.com)"
  +type: "image"
  +lang: "en"
  +isOc: false
  +hasEmbed: true
  +commentCount: 20
  +favouriteCount: 792
  +score: 0
  +isAdult: false
  +sticky: false
  +lastActive: DateTime @1729269791 {#3367
    date: 2024-10-18 18:43:11.0 +02:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +adaAmount: 0
  +tags: null
  +mentions: null
  +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3375 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3377 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3379 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3381 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3383 …}
  +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3385 …}
  +children: [
    App\Entity\EntryComment {#2270
      +user: App\Entity\User {#261 …}
      +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#2266 …2}
      +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#2257 …}
      +image: null
      +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#2268 …}
      +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#2267 …}
      +body: """
        Yeah, cuneiform was interesting in terms of the medium and how much and how broadly it survived. Their folk tale in terms of how they received the writing was that someone from the ocean arrived and was trying to communicate and pressed reeds into the wet mud.\n
        \n
        I sometimes wonder if there was an Aegean earlier Bronze Age/prehistory writing system (like the one found on the [Dispilio tablet](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proto-writing#/media/File%3ADispilio_signs.jpg)) that has been lost to the ages because it was on a temporary medium and then the Sumerians ended up with a version of writing that persisted in a loosely similar way to their folk history.
        """
      +lang: "en"
      +isAdult: false
      +favouriteCount: 2
      +score: 0
      +lastActive: DateTime @1706487639 {#2204
        date: 2024-01-29 01:20:39.0 +01:00
      }
      +ip: null
      +tags: null
      +mentions: [
        "@realitista@lemmy.world"
        "@kromem@lemmy.world"
        "@tetris11@lemmy.ml"
        "@realitista@lemmy.world"
        "@kromem@lemmy.world"
        "@tetris11@lemmy.ml"
      ]
      +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2273 …}
      +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2274 …}
      +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2190 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2265 …}
      +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2263 …}
      +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2235 …}
      -id: 348389
      -bodyTs: "'/wiki/proto-writing#/media/file%3adispilio_signs.jpg))':71 'aegean':55 'age':78 'age/prehistory':58 'arriv':35 'broad':15 'bronz':57 'communic':40 'cuneiform':2 'dispilio':67 'earlier':56 'en.m.wikipedia.org':70 'en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/proto-writing#/media/file%3adispilio_signs.jpg))':69 'end':90 'folk':19,106 'found':64 'histori':107 'interest':4 'like':61 'loos':101 'lost':75 'medium':9,85 'much':12 'mud':47 'ocean':34 'one':63 'persist':98 'press':42 'receiv':26 'reed':43 'similar':102 'someon':31 'sometim':49 'sumerian':89 'surviv':17 'system':60 'tablet':68 'tale':20 'temporari':84 'term':6,22 'tri':38 'version':94 'way':103 'wet':46 'wonder':50 'write':28,59,96 'yeah':1"
      +ranking: 0
      +commentCount: 0
      +upVotes: 0
      +downVotes: 0
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +apId: "https://lemmy.world/comment/7113436"
      +editedAt: DateTimeImmutable @1729251045 {#2200
        date: 2024-10-18 13:30:45.0 +02:00
      }
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1706487639 {#2211
        date: 2024-01-29 01:20:39.0 +01:00
      }
      +"title": 348389
    }
  ]
  -id: 33496
  -titleTs: "'everyth':4 'must':2 'record':3"
  -bodyTs: "'drawn':3 'line':4 'poor':2 'poorlydrawnlines.com':5 'via':1"
  +cross: false
  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +ranking: 1706467953
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://lemmy.world/post/11255987"
  +editedAt: null
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1706381553 {#3354
    date: 2024-01-27 19:52:33.0 +01:00
  }
  +__isInitialized__: true
   …2
}
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
4 DENIED moderate 
Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#2266
  +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#3331 …}
  +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#2257 …}
  +image: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#3372 …}
  +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#3374 …}
  +slug: "We-must-record-everything"
  +title: "We must record everything"
  +url: "https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/89a47613-b78e-4525-ad75-a8c00d8a1228.jpeg"
  +body: "Via [Poorly Drawn Lines](https://poorlydrawnlines.com)"
  +type: "image"
  +lang: "en"
  +isOc: false
  +hasEmbed: true
  +commentCount: 20
  +favouriteCount: 792
  +score: 0
  +isAdult: false
  +sticky: false
  +lastActive: DateTime @1729269791 {#3367
    date: 2024-10-18 18:43:11.0 +02:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +adaAmount: 0
  +tags: null
  +mentions: null
  +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3375 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3377 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3379 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3381 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3383 …}
  +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3385 …}
  +children: [
    App\Entity\EntryComment {#2270
      +user: App\Entity\User {#261 …}
      +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#2266 …2}
      +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#2257 …}
      +image: null
      +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#2268 …}
      +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#2267 …}
      +body: """
        Yeah, cuneiform was interesting in terms of the medium and how much and how broadly it survived. Their folk tale in terms of how they received the writing was that someone from the ocean arrived and was trying to communicate and pressed reeds into the wet mud.\n
        \n
        I sometimes wonder if there was an Aegean earlier Bronze Age/prehistory writing system (like the one found on the [Dispilio tablet](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proto-writing#/media/File%3ADispilio_signs.jpg)) that has been lost to the ages because it was on a temporary medium and then the Sumerians ended up with a version of writing that persisted in a loosely similar way to their folk history.
        """
      +lang: "en"
      +isAdult: false
      +favouriteCount: 2
      +score: 0
      +lastActive: DateTime @1706487639 {#2204
        date: 2024-01-29 01:20:39.0 +01:00
      }
      +ip: null
      +tags: null
      +mentions: [
        "@realitista@lemmy.world"
        "@kromem@lemmy.world"
        "@tetris11@lemmy.ml"
        "@realitista@lemmy.world"
        "@kromem@lemmy.world"
        "@tetris11@lemmy.ml"
      ]
      +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2273 …}
      +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2274 …}
      +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2190 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2265 …}
      +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2263 …}
      +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2235 …}
      -id: 348389
      -bodyTs: "'/wiki/proto-writing#/media/file%3adispilio_signs.jpg))':71 'aegean':55 'age':78 'age/prehistory':58 'arriv':35 'broad':15 'bronz':57 'communic':40 'cuneiform':2 'dispilio':67 'earlier':56 'en.m.wikipedia.org':70 'en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/proto-writing#/media/file%3adispilio_signs.jpg))':69 'end':90 'folk':19,106 'found':64 'histori':107 'interest':4 'like':61 'loos':101 'lost':75 'medium':9,85 'much':12 'mud':47 'ocean':34 'one':63 'persist':98 'press':42 'receiv':26 'reed':43 'similar':102 'someon':31 'sometim':49 'sumerian':89 'surviv':17 'system':60 'tablet':68 'tale':20 'temporari':84 'term':6,22 'tri':38 'version':94 'way':103 'wet':46 'wonder':50 'write':28,59,96 'yeah':1"
      +ranking: 0
      +commentCount: 0
      +upVotes: 0
      +downVotes: 0
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +apId: "https://lemmy.world/comment/7113436"
      +editedAt: DateTimeImmutable @1729251045 {#2200
        date: 2024-10-18 13:30:45.0 +02:00
      }
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1706487639 {#2211
        date: 2024-01-29 01:20:39.0 +01:00
      }
      +"title": 348389
    }
  ]
  -id: 33496
  -titleTs: "'everyth':4 'must':2 'record':3"
  -bodyTs: "'drawn':3 'line':4 'poor':2 'poorlydrawnlines.com':5 'via':1"
  +cross: false
  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +ranking: 1706467953
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://lemmy.world/post/11255987"
  +editedAt: null
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1706381553 {#3354
    date: 2024-01-27 19:52:33.0 +01:00
  }
  +__isInitialized__: true
   …2
}
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
5 DENIED ROLE_USER 
null
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
6 DENIED moderate 
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        > I don’t get why you buy into Bible Literalism.\n
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        I don’t, and I’m not sure where you get the sense that I do.\n
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        There’s a very wide gulf between thinking that a historical person named Jesus existed and that the New Testament depiction of that person is accurate.\n
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        There’s a ton of things in there that are pretty clearly BS, but the way in which they are BS seems much more like an attempt to spin historical events than to invent them from scratch.\n
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        Dude is nicknamed after a [“hollow rock”](https://www.biblestudytools.com/lexicons/hebrew/nas/keph.html) which is actually a terrible thing to try to use as a foundation, but it’s an incredible nickname for someone regularly missing the point and arguing with you.\n
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        Then around the time Jesus is being tried approximately three times Cephas is also denying Jesus three times, even seen going back into a guarded area where a trial is taking place to do so.\n
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        That sounds a lot more like there had been earlier eyewitness testimony or rumors about “hollow rock” having had a more prominent role in testifying against a historical figure which needed to be spun to be a lesser offense which was explained away as acceptable than it sounds like a fabrication originated by a religious organization owing itself to “hollow rock.”\n
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        There’s many places where the earliest layers of the NT are sort of engaged with a phantom tradition we can no longer see directly, and only in reflection of its opposition. Things like Mark pointing out that the women saw the empty tomb but didn’t tell anyone or that Thomas doubted the resurrection but then changed his mind. Given Paul was combating the disbelief in physical resurrection in Corinth in 1 Cor 15 among what was a community following *some* version of Jesus, maybe traditions later on that owed themselves to female teachers, prominently had females receiving sayings from Jesus separate from the other disciples, and had an over-realized eschatology such that it rejected physical resurrection like the proto-Thomasine group were a bigger deal earlier on than the church would like to let on?\n
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        My point is that this kind of undermining and spin - “yes Cephas denied him but it was prophesied” or “no, the women *actually* saw the empty tomb they just didn’t tell anyone, we pinky swear” - is the kind of thing we should expect from a very early split around a cultush origin and not something like Mithraism where a mythologized narrative is adapted and embellished from purely fictional origins.\n
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        As for publishing - I’d like to and plan to one day probably at least do a video series on the topic. But this is a hobby and people take religion *very* seriously to an irrational degree so I’m probably not going to be comfortable linking my real world self to a counter-cannonical Christian public stance until I’m retired. On the upside that gives me many more years to continue to find out more nuances.
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        > For if someone comes and proclaims another Jesus than the one we proclaimed, or if you receive a different spirit from the one you received, or a different gospel from the one you accepted, you put up with it readily enough. I think that I am not in the least inferior to these super-apostles.\n
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        > I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you in the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel— not that there is another gospel, but there are some who are confusing you and want to pervert the gospel of Christ. But even if we or an angel from heaven should proclaim to you a gospel contrary to what we proclaimed to you, let that one be accursed! As we have said before, so now I repeat, if anyone proclaims to you a gospel contrary to what you received, let that one be accursed!\n
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        - Galatians 1:6-9\n
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        > As to the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered together to him, we beg you, brothers and sisters, not to be quickly shaken in mind or alarmed, either by spirit or by word or by letter, as though from us, to the effect that the day of the Lord is already here.\n
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        - 2 Thessalonians 2:1-2 (likely a bit later than Paul)\n
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        > Avoid profane chatter, for it will lead people into more and more impiety, and their talk will spread like gangrene. Among them are Hymenaeus and Philetus, who have swerved from the truth, saying resurrection has already occurred. They are upsetting the faith of some.\n
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        - 2 Timothy 2:16-18\n
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        So I’m not sure where you get the notion there was one big happy family of Christian thought in Paul’s time and the later 1st century CE when literally the earliest records of Christianity we have are so concerned with competing traditions and ideas. You may be mistaking the survivorship bias of cannonical Christianity eradicating most competing thought later on for a picture of unity (as that’s what they try to project) which is why a closer read is warranted.\n
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        > Plus you know we have no evidence that Buddhism had that fighting after Siddharth death\n
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        It had that fighting even *before* Siddhartha’s death when his brother in law [Devadatta](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devadatta) broke away to form his own group.\n
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        > Mormons didn’t break out into civil war after Smith died.\n
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        You might want to read up on the [succession crisis](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Succession_crisis_(Latter_Day_Saints))\n
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        > Scientologists are also doing fine.\n
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        You might want to look into the [Free Zone](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Zone_(Scientology)) schisms from Scientology near and after L Ron’s death.
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        > I don’t get why you buy into Bible Literalism.\n
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        I don’t, and I’m not sure where you get the sense that I do.\n
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        There’s a very wide gulf between thinking that a historical person named Jesus existed and that the New Testament depiction of that person is accurate.\n
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        There’s a ton of things in there that are pretty clearly BS, but the way in which they are BS seems much more like an attempt to spin historical events than to invent them from scratch.\n
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        For example, Peter’s denials.\n
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        Dude is nicknamed after a [“hollow rock”](https://www.biblestudytools.com/lexicons/hebrew/nas/keph.html) which is actually a terrible thing to try to use as a foundation, but it’s an incredible nickname for someone regularly missing the point and arguing with you.\n
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        Then around the time Jesus is being tried approximately three times Cephas is also denying Jesus three times, even seen going back into a guarded area where a trial is taking place to do so.\n
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        But it’s all okay because a rooster crowed?\n
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        That sounds a lot more like there had been earlier eyewitness testimony or rumors about “hollow rock” having had a more prominent role in testifying against a historical figure which needed to be spun to be a lesser offense which was explained away as acceptable than it sounds like a fabrication originated by a religious organization owing itself to “hollow rock.”\n
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        There’s many places where the earliest layers of the NT are sort of engaged with a phantom tradition we can no longer see directly, and only in reflection of its opposition. Things like Mark pointing out that the women saw the empty tomb but didn’t tell anyone or that Thomas doubted the resurrection but then changed his mind. Given Paul was combating the disbelief in physical resurrection in Corinth in 1 Cor 15 among what was a community following *some* version of Jesus, maybe traditions later on that owed themselves to female teachers, prominently had females receiving sayings from Jesus separate from the other disciples, and had an over-realized eschatology such that it rejected physical resurrection like the proto-Thomasine group were a bigger deal earlier on than the church would like to let on?\n
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        My point is that this kind of undermining and spin - “yes Cephas denied him but it was prophesied” or “no, the women *actually* saw the empty tomb they just didn’t tell anyone, we pinky swear” - is the kind of thing we should expect from a very early split around a cultush origin and not something like Mithraism where a mythologized narrative is adapted and embellished from purely fictional origins.\n
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        As for publishing - I’d like to and plan to one day probably at least do a video series on the topic. But this is a hobby and people take religion *very* seriously to an irrational degree so I’m probably not going to be comfortable linking my real world self to a counter-cannonical Christian public stance until I’m retired. On the upside that gives me many more years to continue to find out more nuances.
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        Extra-canonically he was certainly talking a lot about dank images:\n
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        > Jesus said, "When you see your likeness, you are happy. But when you see your images that came into being before you and that neither die nor become visible, how much you will have to bear!"\n
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        - Gospel of Thomas saying 84\n
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        - Gospel of Thomas saying 22\n
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        > For if someone comes and proclaims another Jesus than the one we proclaimed, or if you receive a different spirit from the one you received, or a different gospel from the one you accepted, you put up with it readily enough. I think that I am not in the least inferior to these super-apostles.\n
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        - 2 Cor 11:4-5\n
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        > I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you in the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel— not that there is another gospel, but there are some who are confusing you and want to pervert the gospel of Christ. But even if we or an angel from heaven should proclaim to you a gospel contrary to what we proclaimed to you, let that one be accursed! As we have said before, so now I repeat, if anyone proclaims to you a gospel contrary to what you received, let that one be accursed!\n
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        - Galatians 1:6-9\n
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        > As to the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered together to him, we beg you, brothers and sisters, not to be quickly shaken in mind or alarmed, either by spirit or by word or by letter, as though from us, to the effect that the day of the Lord is already here.\n
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        - 2 Thessalonians 2:1-2 (likely a bit later than Paul)\n
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        > Avoid profane chatter, for it will lead people into more and more impiety, and their talk will spread like gangrene. Among them are Hymenaeus and Philetus, who have swerved from the truth, saying resurrection has already occurred. They are upsetting the faith of some.\n
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        - 2 Timothy 2:16-18\n
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        So I’m not sure where you get the notion there was one big happy family of Christian thought in Paul’s time and the later 1st century CE when literally the earliest records of Christianity we have are so concerned with competing traditions and ideas. You may be mistaking the survivorship bias of cannonical Christianity eradicating most competing thought later on for a picture of unity (as that’s what they try to project) which is why a closer read is warranted.\n
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        > Plus you know we have no evidence that Buddhism had that fighting after Siddharth death\n
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        It had that fighting even *before* Siddhartha’s death when his brother in law [Devadatta](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devadatta) broke away to form his own group.\n
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        > Mormons didn’t break out into civil war after Smith died.\n
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        You might want to read up on the [succession crisis](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Succession_crisis_(Latter_Day_Saints))\n
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        > Scientologists are also doing fine.\n
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        You might want to look into the [Free Zone](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Zone_(Scientology)) schisms from Scientology near and after L Ron’s death.
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        > I don’t get why you buy into Bible Literalism.\n
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        I don’t, and I’m not sure where you get the sense that I do.\n
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        There’s a ton of things in there that are pretty clearly BS, but the way in which they are BS seems much more like an attempt to spin historical events than to invent them from scratch.\n
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        Dude is nicknamed after a [“hollow rock”](https://www.biblestudytools.com/lexicons/hebrew/nas/keph.html) which is actually a terrible thing to try to use as a foundation, but it’s an incredible nickname for someone regularly missing the point and arguing with you.\n
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        Then around the time Jesus is being tried approximately three times Cephas is also denying Jesus three times, even seen going back into a guarded area where a trial is taking place to do so.\n
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        That sounds a lot more like there had been earlier eyewitness testimony or rumors about “hollow rock” having had a more prominent role in testifying against a historical figure which needed to be spun to be a lesser offense which was explained away as acceptable than it sounds like a fabrication originated by a religious organization owing itself to “hollow rock.”\n
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        As for publishing - I’d like to and plan to one day probably at least do a video series on the topic. But this is a hobby and people take religion *very* seriously to an irrational degree so I’m probably not going to be comfortable linking my real world self to a counter-cannonical Christian public stance until I’m retired. On the upside that gives me many more years to continue to find out more nuances.
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        You might want to read up on the [succession crisis](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Succession_crisis_(Latter_Day_Saints))\n
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        > Scientologists are also doing fine.\n
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        You might want to look into the [Free Zone](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Zone_(Scientology)) schisms from Scientology near and after L Ron’s death.
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          > For if someone comes and proclaims another Jesus than the one we proclaimed, or if you receive a different spirit from the one you received, or a different gospel from the one you accepted, you put up with it readily enough. I think that I am not in the least inferior to these super-apostles.\n
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          - 2 Cor 11:4-5\n
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          Corinth then later on full on deposed Rome’s appointees which led to the letter from the bishop of Rome, *1 Clement* that’s almost entirely devoted to trying to damage control the schism.\n
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          > And why not say (as some people slander us by saying that we say), “Let us do evil so that good may come”? Their judgment is deserved!\n
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          - Galatians 1:6-9\n
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          You can even see some of the specific concepts that there was a schism about, such as whether there was an over-realized eschatology:\n
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          > As to the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered together to him, we beg you, brothers and sisters, not to be quickly shaken in mind or alarmed, either by spirit or by word or by letter, as though from us, to the effect that the day of the Lord is already here.\n
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          - 2 Thessalonians 2:1-2 (likely a bit later than Paul)\n
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          > Avoid profane chatter, for it will lead people into more and more impiety, and their talk will spread like gangrene. Among them are Hymenaeus and Philetus, who have swerved from the truth, saying resurrection has already occurred. They are upsetting the faith of some.\n
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          - 2 Timothy 2:16-18\n
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          So I’m not sure where you get the notion there was one big happy family of Christian thought in Paul’s time and the later 1st century CE when literally the earliest records of Christianity we have are so concerned with competing traditions and ideas. You may be mistaking the survivorship bias of cannonical Christianity eradicating most competing thought later on for a picture of unity (as that’s what they try to project) which is why a closer read is warranted.\n
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          > Plus you know we have no evidence that Buddhism had that fighting after Siddharth death\n
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          It had that fighting even *before* Siddhartha’s death when his brother in law [Devadatta](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devadatta) broke away to form his own group.\n
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          > Mormons didn’t break out into civil war after Smith died.\n
          \n
          You might want to read up on the [succession crisis](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Succession_crisis_(Latter_Day_Saints))\n
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          > Scientologists are also doing fine.\n
          \n
          You might want to look into the [Free Zone](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Zone_(Scientology)) schisms from Scientology near and after L Ron’s death.
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          He was almost certainly not fictional.\n
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          Fictional constructs don’t end up having bitterly opposed factions splintering off within decades of their supposed death, but that’s an extremely common feature of nearly every cult organized around a historical central figure.\n
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          The specific depiction of Jesus canonized likely has many fictional elements, but the idea that there was no historical figure in the first place is pretty ludicrous.
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    > I don’t get why you buy into Bible Literalism.\n
    \n
    I don’t, and I’m not sure where you get the sense that I do.\n
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    There’s a very wide gulf between thinking that a historical person named Jesus existed and that the New Testament depiction of that person is accurate.\n
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    There’s a ton of things in there that are pretty clearly BS, but the way in which they are BS seems much more like an attempt to spin historical events than to invent them from scratch.\n
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    For example, Peter’s denials.\n
    \n
    Dude is nicknamed after a [“hollow rock”](https://www.biblestudytools.com/lexicons/hebrew/nas/keph.html) which is actually a terrible thing to try to use as a foundation, but it’s an incredible nickname for someone regularly missing the point and arguing with you.\n
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    Then around the time Jesus is being tried approximately three times Cephas is also denying Jesus three times, even seen going back into a guarded area where a trial is taking place to do so.\n
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    But it’s all okay because a rooster crowed?\n
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    That sounds a lot more like there had been earlier eyewitness testimony or rumors about “hollow rock” having had a more prominent role in testifying against a historical figure which needed to be spun to be a lesser offense which was explained away as acceptable than it sounds like a fabrication originated by a religious organization owing itself to “hollow rock.”\n
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    There’s many places where the earliest layers of the NT are sort of engaged with a phantom tradition we can no longer see directly, and only in reflection of its opposition. Things like Mark pointing out that the women saw the empty tomb but didn’t tell anyone or that Thomas doubted the resurrection but then changed his mind. Given Paul was combating the disbelief in physical resurrection in Corinth in 1 Cor 15 among what was a community following *some* version of Jesus, maybe traditions later on that owed themselves to female teachers, prominently had females receiving sayings from Jesus separate from the other disciples, and had an over-realized eschatology such that it rejected physical resurrection like the proto-Thomasine group were a bigger deal earlier on than the church would like to let on?\n
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    My point is that this kind of undermining and spin - “yes Cephas denied him but it was prophesied” or “no, the women *actually* saw the empty tomb they just didn’t tell anyone, we pinky swear” - is the kind of thing we should expect from a very early split around a cultush origin and not something like Mithraism where a mythologized narrative is adapted and embellished from purely fictional origins.\n
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    As for publishing - I’d like to and plan to one day probably at least do a video series on the topic. But this is a hobby and people take religion *very* seriously to an irrational degree so I’m probably not going to be comfortable linking my real world self to a counter-cannonical Christian public stance until I’m retired. On the upside that gives me many more years to continue to find out more nuances.
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          Extra-canonically he was certainly talking a lot about dank images:\n
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          > For if someone comes and proclaims another Jesus than the one we proclaimed, or if you receive a different spirit from the one you received, or a different gospel from the one you accepted, you put up with it readily enough. I think that I am not in the least inferior to these super-apostles.\n
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          - 2 Cor 11:4-5\n
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          Corinth then later on full on deposed Rome’s appointees which led to the letter from the bishop of Rome, *1 Clement* that’s almost entirely devoted to trying to damage control the schism.\n
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          > As to the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered together to him, we beg you, brothers and sisters, not to be quickly shaken in mind or alarmed, either by spirit or by word or by letter, as though from us, to the effect that the day of the Lord is already here.\n
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          - 2 Thessalonians 2:1-2 (likely a bit later than Paul)\n
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          > Avoid profane chatter, for it will lead people into more and more impiety, and their talk will spread like gangrene. Among them are Hymenaeus and Philetus, who have swerved from the truth, saying resurrection has already occurred. They are upsetting the faith of some.\n
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          - 2 Timothy 2:16-18\n
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          So I’m not sure where you get the notion there was one big happy family of Christian thought in Paul’s time and the later 1st century CE when literally the earliest records of Christianity we have are so concerned with competing traditions and ideas. You may be mistaking the survivorship bias of cannonical Christianity eradicating most competing thought later on for a picture of unity (as that’s what they try to project) which is why a closer read is warranted.\n
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          > Plus you know we have no evidence that Buddhism had that fighting after Siddharth death\n
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          It had that fighting even *before* Siddhartha’s death when his brother in law [Devadatta](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devadatta) broke away to form his own group.\n
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          > Mormons didn’t break out into civil war after Smith died.\n
          \n
          You might want to read up on the [succession crisis](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Succession_crisis_(Latter_Day_Saints))\n
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          > Scientologists are also doing fine.\n
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          You might want to look into the [Free Zone](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Zone_(Scientology)) schisms from Scientology near and after L Ron’s death.
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          He was almost certainly not fictional.\n
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          Fictional constructs don’t end up having bitterly opposed factions splintering off within decades of their supposed death, but that’s an extremely common feature of nearly every cult organized around a historical central figure.\n
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          The specific depiction of Jesus canonized likely has many fictional elements, but the idea that there was no historical figure in the first place is pretty ludicrous.
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    > I don’t get why you buy into Bible Literalism.\n
    \n
    I don’t, and I’m not sure where you get the sense that I do.\n
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    There’s a very wide gulf between thinking that a historical person named Jesus existed and that the New Testament depiction of that person is accurate.\n
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    There’s a ton of things in there that are pretty clearly BS, but the way in which they are BS seems much more like an attempt to spin historical events than to invent them from scratch.\n
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    For example, Peter’s denials.\n
    \n
    Dude is nicknamed after a [“hollow rock”](https://www.biblestudytools.com/lexicons/hebrew/nas/keph.html) which is actually a terrible thing to try to use as a foundation, but it’s an incredible nickname for someone regularly missing the point and arguing with you.\n
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    Then around the time Jesus is being tried approximately three times Cephas is also denying Jesus three times, even seen going back into a guarded area where a trial is taking place to do so.\n
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    But it’s all okay because a rooster crowed?\n
    \n
    That sounds a lot more like there had been earlier eyewitness testimony or rumors about “hollow rock” having had a more prominent role in testifying against a historical figure which needed to be spun to be a lesser offense which was explained away as acceptable than it sounds like a fabrication originated by a religious organization owing itself to “hollow rock.”\n
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    There’s many places where the earliest layers of the NT are sort of engaged with a phantom tradition we can no longer see directly, and only in reflection of its opposition. Things like Mark pointing out that the women saw the empty tomb but didn’t tell anyone or that Thomas doubted the resurrection but then changed his mind. Given Paul was combating the disbelief in physical resurrection in Corinth in 1 Cor 15 among what was a community following *some* version of Jesus, maybe traditions later on that owed themselves to female teachers, prominently had females receiving sayings from Jesus separate from the other disciples, and had an over-realized eschatology such that it rejected physical resurrection like the proto-Thomasine group were a bigger deal earlier on than the church would like to let on?\n
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    My point is that this kind of undermining and spin - “yes Cephas denied him but it was prophesied” or “no, the women *actually* saw the empty tomb they just didn’t tell anyone, we pinky swear” - is the kind of thing we should expect from a very early split around a cultush origin and not something like Mithraism where a mythologized narrative is adapted and embellished from purely fictional origins.\n
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    As for publishing - I’d like to and plan to one day probably at least do a video series on the topic. But this is a hobby and people take religion *very* seriously to an irrational degree so I’m probably not going to be comfortable linking my real world self to a counter-cannonical Christian public stance until I’m retired. On the upside that gives me many more years to continue to find out more nuances.
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          > For if someone comes and proclaims another Jesus than the one we proclaimed, or if you receive a different spirit from the one you received, or a different gospel from the one you accepted, you put up with it readily enough. I think that I am not in the least inferior to these super-apostles.\n
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          - 2 Cor 11:4-5\n
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          Corinth then later on full on deposed Rome’s appointees which led to the letter from the bishop of Rome, *1 Clement* that’s almost entirely devoted to trying to damage control the schism.\n
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          > Avoid profane chatter, for it will lead people into more and more impiety, and their talk will spread like gangrene. Among them are Hymenaeus and Philetus, who have swerved from the truth, saying resurrection has already occurred. They are upsetting the faith of some.\n
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          So I’m not sure where you get the notion there was one big happy family of Christian thought in Paul’s time and the later 1st century CE when literally the earliest records of Christianity we have are so concerned with competing traditions and ideas. You may be mistaking the survivorship bias of cannonical Christianity eradicating most competing thought later on for a picture of unity (as that’s what they try to project) which is why a closer read is warranted.\n
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          > Plus you know we have no evidence that Buddhism had that fighting after Siddharth death\n
          \n
          It had that fighting even *before* Siddhartha’s death when his brother in law [Devadatta](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devadatta) broke away to form his own group.\n
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          > Mormons didn’t break out into civil war after Smith died.\n
          \n
          You might want to read up on the [succession crisis](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Succession_crisis_(Latter_Day_Saints))\n
          \n
          > Scientologists are also doing fine.\n
          \n
          You might want to look into the [Free Zone](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Zone_(Scientology)) schisms from Scientology near and after L Ron’s death.
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          He was almost certainly not fictional.\n
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          Fictional constructs don’t end up having bitterly opposed factions splintering off within decades of their supposed death, but that’s an extremely common feature of nearly every cult organized around a historical central figure.\n
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    > I don’t get why you buy into Bible Literalism.\n
    \n
    I don’t, and I’m not sure where you get the sense that I do.\n
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    There’s a very wide gulf between thinking that a historical person named Jesus existed and that the New Testament depiction of that person is accurate.\n
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    There’s a ton of things in there that are pretty clearly BS, but the way in which they are BS seems much more like an attempt to spin historical events than to invent them from scratch.\n
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    For example, Peter’s denials.\n
    \n
    Dude is nicknamed after a [“hollow rock”](https://www.biblestudytools.com/lexicons/hebrew/nas/keph.html) which is actually a terrible thing to try to use as a foundation, but it’s an incredible nickname for someone regularly missing the point and arguing with you.\n
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    Then around the time Jesus is being tried approximately three times Cephas is also denying Jesus three times, even seen going back into a guarded area where a trial is taking place to do so.\n
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    But it’s all okay because a rooster crowed?\n
    \n
    That sounds a lot more like there had been earlier eyewitness testimony or rumors about “hollow rock” having had a more prominent role in testifying against a historical figure which needed to be spun to be a lesser offense which was explained away as acceptable than it sounds like a fabrication originated by a religious organization owing itself to “hollow rock.”\n
    \n
    There’s many places where the earliest layers of the NT are sort of engaged with a phantom tradition we can no longer see directly, and only in reflection of its opposition. Things like Mark pointing out that the women saw the empty tomb but didn’t tell anyone or that Thomas doubted the resurrection but then changed his mind. Given Paul was combating the disbelief in physical resurrection in Corinth in 1 Cor 15 among what was a community following *some* version of Jesus, maybe traditions later on that owed themselves to female teachers, prominently had females receiving sayings from Jesus separate from the other disciples, and had an over-realized eschatology such that it rejected physical resurrection like the proto-Thomasine group were a bigger deal earlier on than the church would like to let on?\n
    \n
    My point is that this kind of undermining and spin - “yes Cephas denied him but it was prophesied” or “no, the women *actually* saw the empty tomb they just didn’t tell anyone, we pinky swear” - is the kind of thing we should expect from a very early split around a cultush origin and not something like Mithraism where a mythologized narrative is adapted and embellished from purely fictional origins.\n
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    As for publishing - I’d like to and plan to one day probably at least do a video series on the topic. But this is a hobby and people take religion *very* seriously to an irrational degree so I’m probably not going to be comfortable linking my real world self to a counter-cannonical Christian public stance until I’m retired. On the upside that gives me many more years to continue to find out more nuances.
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          > I don’t get why you buy into Bible Literalism.\n
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          I don’t, and I’m not sure where you get the sense that I do.\n
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          Dude is nicknamed after a [“hollow rock”](https://www.biblestudytools.com/lexicons/hebrew/nas/keph.html) which is actually a terrible thing to try to use as a foundation, but it’s an incredible nickname for someone regularly missing the point and arguing with you.\n
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          Then around the time Jesus is being tried approximately three times Cephas is also denying Jesus three times, even seen going back into a guarded area where a trial is taking place to do so.\n
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          But it’s all okay because a rooster crowed?\n
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          That sounds a lot more like there had been earlier eyewitness testimony or rumors about “hollow rock” having had a more prominent role in testifying against a historical figure which needed to be spun to be a lesser offense which was explained away as acceptable than it sounds like a fabrication originated by a religious organization owing itself to “hollow rock.”\n
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          There’s many places where the earliest layers of the NT are sort of engaged with a phantom tradition we can no longer see directly, and only in reflection of its opposition. Things like Mark pointing out that the women saw the empty tomb but didn’t tell anyone or that Thomas doubted the resurrection but then changed his mind. Given Paul was combating the disbelief in physical resurrection in Corinth in 1 Cor 15 among what was a community following *some* version of Jesus, maybe traditions later on that owed themselves to female teachers, prominently had females receiving sayings from Jesus separate from the other disciples, and had an over-realized eschatology such that it rejected physical resurrection like the proto-Thomasine group were a bigger deal earlier on than the church would like to let on?\n
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          My point is that this kind of undermining and spin - “yes Cephas denied him but it was prophesied” or “no, the women *actually* saw the empty tomb they just didn’t tell anyone, we pinky swear” - is the kind of thing we should expect from a very early split around a cultush origin and not something like Mithraism where a mythologized narrative is adapted and embellished from purely fictional origins.\n
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          As for publishing - I’d like to and plan to one day probably at least do a video series on the topic. But this is a hobby and people take religion *very* seriously to an irrational degree so I’m probably not going to be comfortable linking my real world self to a counter-cannonical Christian public stance until I’m retired. On the upside that gives me many more years to continue to find out more nuances.
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          > For if someone comes and proclaims another Jesus than the one we proclaimed, or if you receive a different spirit from the one you received, or a different gospel from the one you accepted, you put up with it readily enough. I think that I am not in the least inferior to these super-apostles.\n
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          - 2 Cor 11:4-5\n
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          Corinth then later on full on deposed Rome’s appointees which led to the letter from the bishop of Rome, *1 Clement* that’s almost entirely devoted to trying to damage control the schism.\n
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          > And why not say (as some people slander us by saying that we say), “Let us do evil so that good may come”? Their judgment is deserved!\n
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          > Avoid profane chatter, for it will lead people into more and more impiety, and their talk will spread like gangrene. Among them are Hymenaeus and Philetus, who have swerved from the truth, saying resurrection has already occurred. They are upsetting the faith of some.\n
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          So I’m not sure where you get the notion there was one big happy family of Christian thought in Paul’s time and the later 1st century CE when literally the earliest records of Christianity we have are so concerned with competing traditions and ideas. You may be mistaking the survivorship bias of cannonical Christianity eradicating most competing thought later on for a picture of unity (as that’s what they try to project) which is why a closer read is warranted.\n
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          > Plus you know we have no evidence that Buddhism had that fighting after Siddharth death\n
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          > Mormons didn’t break out into civil war after Smith died.\n
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          You might want to read up on the [succession crisis](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Succession_crisis_(Latter_Day_Saints))\n
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          > Scientologists are also doing fine.\n
          \n
          You might want to look into the [Free Zone](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Zone_(Scientology)) schisms from Scientology near and after L Ron’s death.
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          He was almost certainly not fictional.\n
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    - Gospel of Thomas saying 22\n
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          > I don’t get why you buy into Bible Literalism.\n
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          I don’t, and I’m not sure where you get the sense that I do.\n
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          There’s a very wide gulf between thinking that a historical person named Jesus existed and that the New Testament depiction of that person is accurate.\n
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          Dude is nicknamed after a [“hollow rock”](https://www.biblestudytools.com/lexicons/hebrew/nas/keph.html) which is actually a terrible thing to try to use as a foundation, but it’s an incredible nickname for someone regularly missing the point and arguing with you.\n
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          But it’s all okay because a rooster crowed?\n
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          That sounds a lot more like there had been earlier eyewitness testimony or rumors about “hollow rock” having had a more prominent role in testifying against a historical figure which needed to be spun to be a lesser offense which was explained away as acceptable than it sounds like a fabrication originated by a religious organization owing itself to “hollow rock.”\n
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          There’s many places where the earliest layers of the NT are sort of engaged with a phantom tradition we can no longer see directly, and only in reflection of its opposition. Things like Mark pointing out that the women saw the empty tomb but didn’t tell anyone or that Thomas doubted the resurrection but then changed his mind. Given Paul was combating the disbelief in physical resurrection in Corinth in 1 Cor 15 among what was a community following *some* version of Jesus, maybe traditions later on that owed themselves to female teachers, prominently had females receiving sayings from Jesus separate from the other disciples, and had an over-realized eschatology such that it rejected physical resurrection like the proto-Thomasine group were a bigger deal earlier on than the church would like to let on?\n
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          My point is that this kind of undermining and spin - “yes Cephas denied him but it was prophesied” or “no, the women *actually* saw the empty tomb they just didn’t tell anyone, we pinky swear” - is the kind of thing we should expect from a very early split around a cultush origin and not something like Mithraism where a mythologized narrative is adapted and embellished from purely fictional origins.\n
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          As for publishing - I’d like to and plan to one day probably at least do a video series on the topic. But this is a hobby and people take religion *very* seriously to an irrational degree so I’m probably not going to be comfortable linking my real world self to a counter-cannonical Christian public stance until I’m retired. On the upside that gives me many more years to continue to find out more nuances.
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          > For if someone comes and proclaims another Jesus than the one we proclaimed, or if you receive a different spirit from the one you received, or a different gospel from the one you accepted, you put up with it readily enough. I think that I am not in the least inferior to these super-apostles.\n
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          - 2 Cor 11:4-5\n
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          Corinth then later on full on deposed Rome’s appointees which led to the letter from the bishop of Rome, *1 Clement* that’s almost entirely devoted to trying to damage control the schism.\n
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          > And why not say (as some people slander us by saying that we say), “Let us do evil so that good may come”? Their judgment is deserved!\n
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          > Avoid profane chatter, for it will lead people into more and more impiety, and their talk will spread like gangrene. Among them are Hymenaeus and Philetus, who have swerved from the truth, saying resurrection has already occurred. They are upsetting the faith of some.\n
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          So I’m not sure where you get the notion there was one big happy family of Christian thought in Paul’s time and the later 1st century CE when literally the earliest records of Christianity we have are so concerned with competing traditions and ideas. You may be mistaking the survivorship bias of cannonical Christianity eradicating most competing thought later on for a picture of unity (as that’s what they try to project) which is why a closer read is warranted.\n
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          > Plus you know we have no evidence that Buddhism had that fighting after Siddharth death\n
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          > Mormons didn’t break out into civil war after Smith died.\n
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          You might want to read up on the [succession crisis](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Succession_crisis_(Latter_Day_Saints))\n
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          > Scientologists are also doing fine.\n
          \n
          You might want to look into the [Free Zone](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Zone_(Scientology)) schisms from Scientology near and after L Ron’s death.
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          He was almost certainly not fictional.\n
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          > I don’t get why you buy into Bible Literalism.\n
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          I don’t, and I’m not sure where you get the sense that I do.\n
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          There’s a very wide gulf between thinking that a historical person named Jesus existed and that the New Testament depiction of that person is accurate.\n
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          Dude is nicknamed after a [“hollow rock”](https://www.biblestudytools.com/lexicons/hebrew/nas/keph.html) which is actually a terrible thing to try to use as a foundation, but it’s an incredible nickname for someone regularly missing the point and arguing with you.\n
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          But it’s all okay because a rooster crowed?\n
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          That sounds a lot more like there had been earlier eyewitness testimony or rumors about “hollow rock” having had a more prominent role in testifying against a historical figure which needed to be spun to be a lesser offense which was explained away as acceptable than it sounds like a fabrication originated by a religious organization owing itself to “hollow rock.”\n
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          There’s many places where the earliest layers of the NT are sort of engaged with a phantom tradition we can no longer see directly, and only in reflection of its opposition. Things like Mark pointing out that the women saw the empty tomb but didn’t tell anyone or that Thomas doubted the resurrection but then changed his mind. Given Paul was combating the disbelief in physical resurrection in Corinth in 1 Cor 15 among what was a community following *some* version of Jesus, maybe traditions later on that owed themselves to female teachers, prominently had females receiving sayings from Jesus separate from the other disciples, and had an over-realized eschatology such that it rejected physical resurrection like the proto-Thomasine group were a bigger deal earlier on than the church would like to let on?\n
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          My point is that this kind of undermining and spin - “yes Cephas denied him but it was prophesied” or “no, the women *actually* saw the empty tomb they just didn’t tell anyone, we pinky swear” - is the kind of thing we should expect from a very early split around a cultush origin and not something like Mithraism where a mythologized narrative is adapted and embellished from purely fictional origins.\n
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          As for publishing - I’d like to and plan to one day probably at least do a video series on the topic. But this is a hobby and people take religion *very* seriously to an irrational degree so I’m probably not going to be comfortable linking my real world self to a counter-cannonical Christian public stance until I’m retired. On the upside that gives me many more years to continue to find out more nuances.
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          > For if someone comes and proclaims another Jesus than the one we proclaimed, or if you receive a different spirit from the one you received, or a different gospel from the one you accepted, you put up with it readily enough. I think that I am not in the least inferior to these super-apostles.\n
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          - 2 Cor 11:4-5\n
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          Corinth then later on full on deposed Rome’s appointees which led to the letter from the bishop of Rome, *1 Clement* that’s almost entirely devoted to trying to damage control the schism.\n
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          > And why not say (as some people slander us by saying that we say), “Let us do evil so that good may come”? Their judgment is deserved!\n
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          - 2 Thessalonians 2:1-2 (likely a bit later than Paul)\n
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          > Avoid profane chatter, for it will lead people into more and more impiety, and their talk will spread like gangrene. Among them are Hymenaeus and Philetus, who have swerved from the truth, saying resurrection has already occurred. They are upsetting the faith of some.\n
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          So I’m not sure where you get the notion there was one big happy family of Christian thought in Paul’s time and the later 1st century CE when literally the earliest records of Christianity we have are so concerned with competing traditions and ideas. You may be mistaking the survivorship bias of cannonical Christianity eradicating most competing thought later on for a picture of unity (as that’s what they try to project) which is why a closer read is warranted.\n
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          > Plus you know we have no evidence that Buddhism had that fighting after Siddharth death\n
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          > Mormons didn’t break out into civil war after Smith died.\n
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          You might want to read up on the [succession crisis](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Succession_crisis_(Latter_Day_Saints))\n
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          > Scientologists are also doing fine.\n
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          You might want to look into the [Free Zone](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Zone_(Scientology)) schisms from Scientology near and after L Ron’s death.
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          > I don’t get why you buy into Bible Literalism.\n
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          I don’t, and I’m not sure where you get the sense that I do.\n
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          There’s a very wide gulf between thinking that a historical person named Jesus existed and that the New Testament depiction of that person is accurate.\n
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          Then around the time Jesus is being tried approximately three times Cephas is also denying Jesus three times, even seen going back into a guarded area where a trial is taking place to do so.\n
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          That sounds a lot more like there had been earlier eyewitness testimony or rumors about “hollow rock” having had a more prominent role in testifying against a historical figure which needed to be spun to be a lesser offense which was explained away as acceptable than it sounds like a fabrication originated by a religious organization owing itself to “hollow rock.”\n
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          There’s many places where the earliest layers of the NT are sort of engaged with a phantom tradition we can no longer see directly, and only in reflection of its opposition. Things like Mark pointing out that the women saw the empty tomb but didn’t tell anyone or that Thomas doubted the resurrection but then changed his mind. Given Paul was combating the disbelief in physical resurrection in Corinth in 1 Cor 15 among what was a community following *some* version of Jesus, maybe traditions later on that owed themselves to female teachers, prominently had females receiving sayings from Jesus separate from the other disciples, and had an over-realized eschatology such that it rejected physical resurrection like the proto-Thomasine group were a bigger deal earlier on than the church would like to let on?\n
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          My point is that this kind of undermining and spin - “yes Cephas denied him but it was prophesied” or “no, the women *actually* saw the empty tomb they just didn’t tell anyone, we pinky swear” - is the kind of thing we should expect from a very early split around a cultush origin and not something like Mithraism where a mythologized narrative is adapted and embellished from purely fictional origins.\n
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          As for publishing - I’d like to and plan to one day probably at least do a video series on the topic. But this is a hobby and people take religion *very* seriously to an irrational degree so I’m probably not going to be comfortable linking my real world self to a counter-cannonical Christian public stance until I’m retired. On the upside that gives me many more years to continue to find out more nuances.
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          - Gospel of Thomas saying 84\n
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          He was almost certainly not fictional.\n
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    > For if someone comes and proclaims another Jesus than the one we proclaimed, or if you receive a different spirit from the one you received, or a different gospel from the one you accepted, you put up with it readily enough. I think that I am not in the least inferior to these super-apostles.\n
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    - 2 Cor 11:4-5\n
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    Corinth then later on full on deposed Rome’s appointees which led to the letter from the bishop of Rome, *1 Clement* that’s almost entirely devoted to trying to damage control the schism.\n
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    > And why not say (as some people slander us by saying that we say), “Let us do evil so that good may come”? Their judgment is deserved!\n
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    - Romans 3:8\n
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    > I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you in the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel— not that there is another gospel, but there are some who are confusing you and want to pervert the gospel of Christ. But even if we or an angel from heaven should proclaim to you a gospel contrary to what we proclaimed to you, let that one be accursed! As we have said before, so now I repeat, if anyone proclaims to you a gospel contrary to what you received, let that one be accursed!\n
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    - Galatians 1:6-9\n
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    You can even see some of the specific concepts that there was a schism about, such as whether there was an over-realized eschatology:\n
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    > As to the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered together to him, we beg you, brothers and sisters, not to be quickly shaken in mind or alarmed, either by spirit or by word or by letter, as though from us, to the effect that the day of the Lord is already here.\n
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    - 2 Thessalonians 2:1-2 (likely a bit later than Paul)\n
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    > Avoid profane chatter, for it will lead people into more and more impiety, and their talk will spread like gangrene. Among them are Hymenaeus and Philetus, who have swerved from the truth, saying resurrection has already occurred. They are upsetting the faith of some.\n
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    - 2 Timothy 2:16-18\n
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    So I’m not sure where you get the notion there was one big happy family of Christian thought in Paul’s time and the later 1st century CE when literally the earliest records of Christianity we have are so concerned with competing traditions and ideas. You may be mistaking the survivorship bias of cannonical Christianity eradicating most competing thought later on for a picture of unity (as that’s what they try to project) which is why a closer read is warranted.\n
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    > Plus you know we have no evidence that Buddhism had that fighting after Siddharth death\n
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    It had that fighting even *before* Siddhartha’s death when his brother in law [Devadatta](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devadatta) broke away to form his own group.\n
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    > Mormons didn’t break out into civil war after Smith died.\n
    \n
    You might want to read up on the [succession crisis](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Succession_crisis_(Latter_Day_Saints))\n
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    > Scientologists are also doing fine.\n
    \n
    You might want to look into the [Free Zone](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Zone_(Scientology)) schisms from Scientology near and after L Ron’s death.
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          > I don’t get why you buy into Bible Literalism.\n
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          I don’t, and I’m not sure where you get the sense that I do.\n
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          There’s a very wide gulf between thinking that a historical person named Jesus existed and that the New Testament depiction of that person is accurate.\n
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          For example, Peter’s denials.\n
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          Dude is nicknamed after a [“hollow rock”](https://www.biblestudytools.com/lexicons/hebrew/nas/keph.html) which is actually a terrible thing to try to use as a foundation, but it’s an incredible nickname for someone regularly missing the point and arguing with you.\n
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          But it’s all okay because a rooster crowed?\n
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          That sounds a lot more like there had been earlier eyewitness testimony or rumors about “hollow rock” having had a more prominent role in testifying against a historical figure which needed to be spun to be a lesser offense which was explained away as acceptable than it sounds like a fabrication originated by a religious organization owing itself to “hollow rock.”\n
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          There’s many places where the earliest layers of the NT are sort of engaged with a phantom tradition we can no longer see directly, and only in reflection of its opposition. Things like Mark pointing out that the women saw the empty tomb but didn’t tell anyone or that Thomas doubted the resurrection but then changed his mind. Given Paul was combating the disbelief in physical resurrection in Corinth in 1 Cor 15 among what was a community following *some* version of Jesus, maybe traditions later on that owed themselves to female teachers, prominently had females receiving sayings from Jesus separate from the other disciples, and had an over-realized eschatology such that it rejected physical resurrection like the proto-Thomasine group were a bigger deal earlier on than the church would like to let on?\n
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          My point is that this kind of undermining and spin - “yes Cephas denied him but it was prophesied” or “no, the women *actually* saw the empty tomb they just didn’t tell anyone, we pinky swear” - is the kind of thing we should expect from a very early split around a cultush origin and not something like Mithraism where a mythologized narrative is adapted and embellished from purely fictional origins.\n
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          As for publishing - I’d like to and plan to one day probably at least do a video series on the topic. But this is a hobby and people take religion *very* seriously to an irrational degree so I’m probably not going to be comfortable linking my real world self to a counter-cannonical Christian public stance until I’m retired. On the upside that gives me many more years to continue to find out more nuances.
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          - Gospel of Thomas saying 84\n
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          He was almost certainly not fictional.\n
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    > For if someone comes and proclaims another Jesus than the one we proclaimed, or if you receive a different spirit from the one you received, or a different gospel from the one you accepted, you put up with it readily enough. I think that I am not in the least inferior to these super-apostles.\n
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    Corinth then later on full on deposed Rome’s appointees which led to the letter from the bishop of Rome, *1 Clement* that’s almost entirely devoted to trying to damage control the schism.\n
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    > And why not say (as some people slander us by saying that we say), “Let us do evil so that good may come”? Their judgment is deserved!\n
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    - Romans 3:8\n
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    > I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you in the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel— not that there is another gospel, but there are some who are confusing you and want to pervert the gospel of Christ. But even if we or an angel from heaven should proclaim to you a gospel contrary to what we proclaimed to you, let that one be accursed! As we have said before, so now I repeat, if anyone proclaims to you a gospel contrary to what you received, let that one be accursed!\n
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    - Galatians 1:6-9\n
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    You can even see some of the specific concepts that there was a schism about, such as whether there was an over-realized eschatology:\n
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    > As to the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered together to him, we beg you, brothers and sisters, not to be quickly shaken in mind or alarmed, either by spirit or by word or by letter, as though from us, to the effect that the day of the Lord is already here.\n
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    - 2 Thessalonians 2:1-2 (likely a bit later than Paul)\n
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    > Avoid profane chatter, for it will lead people into more and more impiety, and their talk will spread like gangrene. Among them are Hymenaeus and Philetus, who have swerved from the truth, saying resurrection has already occurred. They are upsetting the faith of some.\n
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    - 2 Timothy 2:16-18\n
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    So I’m not sure where you get the notion there was one big happy family of Christian thought in Paul’s time and the later 1st century CE when literally the earliest records of Christianity we have are so concerned with competing traditions and ideas. You may be mistaking the survivorship bias of cannonical Christianity eradicating most competing thought later on for a picture of unity (as that’s what they try to project) which is why a closer read is warranted.\n
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    > Plus you know we have no evidence that Buddhism had that fighting after Siddharth death\n
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    It had that fighting even *before* Siddhartha’s death when his brother in law [Devadatta](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devadatta) broke away to form his own group.\n
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    > Mormons didn’t break out into civil war after Smith died.\n
    \n
    You might want to read up on the [succession crisis](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Succession_crisis_(Latter_Day_Saints))\n
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    > Scientologists are also doing fine.\n
    \n
    You might want to look into the [Free Zone](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Zone_(Scientology)) schisms from Scientology near and after L Ron’s death.
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          > I don’t get why you buy into Bible Literalism.\n
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          I don’t, and I’m not sure where you get the sense that I do.\n
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          There’s a very wide gulf between thinking that a historical person named Jesus existed and that the New Testament depiction of that person is accurate.\n
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          There’s a ton of things in there that are pretty clearly BS, but the way in which they are BS seems much more like an attempt to spin historical events than to invent them from scratch.\n
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          For example, Peter’s denials.\n
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          Dude is nicknamed after a [“hollow rock”](https://www.biblestudytools.com/lexicons/hebrew/nas/keph.html) which is actually a terrible thing to try to use as a foundation, but it’s an incredible nickname for someone regularly missing the point and arguing with you.\n
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          But it’s all okay because a rooster crowed?\n
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          That sounds a lot more like there had been earlier eyewitness testimony or rumors about “hollow rock” having had a more prominent role in testifying against a historical figure which needed to be spun to be a lesser offense which was explained away as acceptable than it sounds like a fabrication originated by a religious organization owing itself to “hollow rock.”\n
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          My point is that this kind of undermining and spin - “yes Cephas denied him but it was prophesied” or “no, the women *actually* saw the empty tomb they just didn’t tell anyone, we pinky swear” - is the kind of thing we should expect from a very early split around a cultush origin and not something like Mithraism where a mythologized narrative is adapted and embellished from purely fictional origins.\n
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          As for publishing - I’d like to and plan to one day probably at least do a video series on the topic. But this is a hobby and people take religion *very* seriously to an irrational degree so I’m probably not going to be comfortable linking my real world self to a counter-cannonical Christian public stance until I’m retired. On the upside that gives me many more years to continue to find out more nuances.
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          - Gospel of Thomas saying 84\n
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    > For if someone comes and proclaims another Jesus than the one we proclaimed, or if you receive a different spirit from the one you received, or a different gospel from the one you accepted, you put up with it readily enough. I think that I am not in the least inferior to these super-apostles.\n
    \n
    - 2 Cor 11:4-5\n
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    Corinth then later on full on deposed Rome’s appointees which led to the letter from the bishop of Rome, *1 Clement* that’s almost entirely devoted to trying to damage control the schism.\n
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    > And why not say (as some people slander us by saying that we say), “Let us do evil so that good may come”? Their judgment is deserved!\n
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    - Romans 3:8\n
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    > I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you in the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel— not that there is another gospel, but there are some who are confusing you and want to pervert the gospel of Christ. But even if we or an angel from heaven should proclaim to you a gospel contrary to what we proclaimed to you, let that one be accursed! As we have said before, so now I repeat, if anyone proclaims to you a gospel contrary to what you received, let that one be accursed!\n
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    - Galatians 1:6-9\n
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    You can even see some of the specific concepts that there was a schism about, such as whether there was an over-realized eschatology:\n
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    > As to the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered together to him, we beg you, brothers and sisters, not to be quickly shaken in mind or alarmed, either by spirit or by word or by letter, as though from us, to the effect that the day of the Lord is already here.\n
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    - 2 Thessalonians 2:1-2 (likely a bit later than Paul)\n
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    > Avoid profane chatter, for it will lead people into more and more impiety, and their talk will spread like gangrene. Among them are Hymenaeus and Philetus, who have swerved from the truth, saying resurrection has already occurred. They are upsetting the faith of some.\n
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    - 2 Timothy 2:16-18\n
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    So I’m not sure where you get the notion there was one big happy family of Christian thought in Paul’s time and the later 1st century CE when literally the earliest records of Christianity we have are so concerned with competing traditions and ideas. You may be mistaking the survivorship bias of cannonical Christianity eradicating most competing thought later on for a picture of unity (as that’s what they try to project) which is why a closer read is warranted.\n
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    > Plus you know we have no evidence that Buddhism had that fighting after Siddharth death\n
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    It had that fighting even *before* Siddhartha’s death when his brother in law [Devadatta](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devadatta) broke away to form his own group.\n
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    > Mormons didn’t break out into civil war after Smith died.\n
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    You might want to read up on the [succession crisis](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Succession_crisis_(Latter_Day_Saints))\n
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    > Scientologists are also doing fine.\n
    \n
    You might want to look into the [Free Zone](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Zone_(Scientology)) schisms from Scientology near and after L Ron’s death.
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          > I don’t get why you buy into Bible Literalism.\n
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          I don’t, and I’m not sure where you get the sense that I do.\n
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          There’s a very wide gulf between thinking that a historical person named Jesus existed and that the New Testament depiction of that person is accurate.\n
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          Dude is nicknamed after a [“hollow rock”](https://www.biblestudytools.com/lexicons/hebrew/nas/keph.html) which is actually a terrible thing to try to use as a foundation, but it’s an incredible nickname for someone regularly missing the point and arguing with you.\n
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          Then around the time Jesus is being tried approximately three times Cephas is also denying Jesus three times, even seen going back into a guarded area where a trial is taking place to do so.\n
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          But it’s all okay because a rooster crowed?\n
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          That sounds a lot more like there had been earlier eyewitness testimony or rumors about “hollow rock” having had a more prominent role in testifying against a historical figure which needed to be spun to be a lesser offense which was explained away as acceptable than it sounds like a fabrication originated by a religious organization owing itself to “hollow rock.”\n
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          There’s many places where the earliest layers of the NT are sort of engaged with a phantom tradition we can no longer see directly, and only in reflection of its opposition. Things like Mark pointing out that the women saw the empty tomb but didn’t tell anyone or that Thomas doubted the resurrection but then changed his mind. Given Paul was combating the disbelief in physical resurrection in Corinth in 1 Cor 15 among what was a community following *some* version of Jesus, maybe traditions later on that owed themselves to female teachers, prominently had females receiving sayings from Jesus separate from the other disciples, and had an over-realized eschatology such that it rejected physical resurrection like the proto-Thomasine group were a bigger deal earlier on than the church would like to let on?\n
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          My point is that this kind of undermining and spin - “yes Cephas denied him but it was prophesied” or “no, the women *actually* saw the empty tomb they just didn’t tell anyone, we pinky swear” - is the kind of thing we should expect from a very early split around a cultush origin and not something like Mithraism where a mythologized narrative is adapted and embellished from purely fictional origins.\n
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          As for publishing - I’d like to and plan to one day probably at least do a video series on the topic. But this is a hobby and people take religion *very* seriously to an irrational degree so I’m probably not going to be comfortable linking my real world self to a counter-cannonical Christian public stance until I’m retired. On the upside that gives me many more years to continue to find out more nuances.
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          Extra-canonically he was certainly talking a lot about dank images:\n
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          - Gospel of Thomas saying 84\n
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          > For if someone comes and proclaims another Jesus than the one we proclaimed, or if you receive a different spirit from the one you received, or a different gospel from the one you accepted, you put up with it readily enough. I think that I am not in the least inferior to these super-apostles.\n
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          - 2 Cor 11:4-5\n
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          Corinth then later on full on deposed Rome’s appointees which led to the letter from the bishop of Rome, *1 Clement* that’s almost entirely devoted to trying to damage control the schism.\n
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          You can even see some of the specific concepts that there was a schism about, such as whether there was an over-realized eschatology:\n
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          - 2 Thessalonians 2:1-2 (likely a bit later than Paul)\n
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          - 2 Timothy 2:16-18\n
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          So I’m not sure where you get the notion there was one big happy family of Christian thought in Paul’s time and the later 1st century CE when literally the earliest records of Christianity we have are so concerned with competing traditions and ideas. You may be mistaking the survivorship bias of cannonical Christianity eradicating most competing thought later on for a picture of unity (as that’s what they try to project) which is why a closer read is warranted.\n
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          > Plus you know we have no evidence that Buddhism had that fighting after Siddharth death\n
          \n
          It had that fighting even *before* Siddhartha’s death when his brother in law [Devadatta](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devadatta) broke away to form his own group.\n
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          > Mormons didn’t break out into civil war after Smith died.\n
          \n
          You might want to read up on the [succession crisis](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Succession_crisis_(Latter_Day_Saints))\n
          \n
          > Scientologists are also doing fine.\n
          \n
          You might want to look into the [Free Zone](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Zone_(Scientology)) schisms from Scientology near and after L Ron’s death.
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    He was almost certainly not fictional.\n
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          > I don’t get why you buy into Bible Literalism.\n
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          I don’t, and I’m not sure where you get the sense that I do.\n
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          There’s a very wide gulf between thinking that a historical person named Jesus existed and that the New Testament depiction of that person is accurate.\n
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          Dude is nicknamed after a [“hollow rock”](https://www.biblestudytools.com/lexicons/hebrew/nas/keph.html) which is actually a terrible thing to try to use as a foundation, but it’s an incredible nickname for someone regularly missing the point and arguing with you.\n
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          Then around the time Jesus is being tried approximately three times Cephas is also denying Jesus three times, even seen going back into a guarded area where a trial is taking place to do so.\n
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          But it’s all okay because a rooster crowed?\n
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          That sounds a lot more like there had been earlier eyewitness testimony or rumors about “hollow rock” having had a more prominent role in testifying against a historical figure which needed to be spun to be a lesser offense which was explained away as acceptable than it sounds like a fabrication originated by a religious organization owing itself to “hollow rock.”\n
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          There’s many places where the earliest layers of the NT are sort of engaged with a phantom tradition we can no longer see directly, and only in reflection of its opposition. Things like Mark pointing out that the women saw the empty tomb but didn’t tell anyone or that Thomas doubted the resurrection but then changed his mind. Given Paul was combating the disbelief in physical resurrection in Corinth in 1 Cor 15 among what was a community following *some* version of Jesus, maybe traditions later on that owed themselves to female teachers, prominently had females receiving sayings from Jesus separate from the other disciples, and had an over-realized eschatology such that it rejected physical resurrection like the proto-Thomasine group were a bigger deal earlier on than the church would like to let on?\n
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          My point is that this kind of undermining and spin - “yes Cephas denied him but it was prophesied” or “no, the women *actually* saw the empty tomb they just didn’t tell anyone, we pinky swear” - is the kind of thing we should expect from a very early split around a cultush origin and not something like Mithraism where a mythologized narrative is adapted and embellished from purely fictional origins.\n
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          As for publishing - I’d like to and plan to one day probably at least do a video series on the topic. But this is a hobby and people take religion *very* seriously to an irrational degree so I’m probably not going to be comfortable linking my real world self to a counter-cannonical Christian public stance until I’m retired. On the upside that gives me many more years to continue to find out more nuances.
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          Extra-canonically he was certainly talking a lot about dank images:\n
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          - Gospel of Thomas saying 84\n
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          > For if someone comes and proclaims another Jesus than the one we proclaimed, or if you receive a different spirit from the one you received, or a different gospel from the one you accepted, you put up with it readily enough. I think that I am not in the least inferior to these super-apostles.\n
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          - 2 Cor 11:4-5\n
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          Corinth then later on full on deposed Rome’s appointees which led to the letter from the bishop of Rome, *1 Clement* that’s almost entirely devoted to trying to damage control the schism.\n
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          You can even see some of the specific concepts that there was a schism about, such as whether there was an over-realized eschatology:\n
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          - 2 Thessalonians 2:1-2 (likely a bit later than Paul)\n
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          So I’m not sure where you get the notion there was one big happy family of Christian thought in Paul’s time and the later 1st century CE when literally the earliest records of Christianity we have are so concerned with competing traditions and ideas. You may be mistaking the survivorship bias of cannonical Christianity eradicating most competing thought later on for a picture of unity (as that’s what they try to project) which is why a closer read is warranted.\n
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          > Plus you know we have no evidence that Buddhism had that fighting after Siddharth death\n
          \n
          It had that fighting even *before* Siddhartha’s death when his brother in law [Devadatta](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devadatta) broke away to form his own group.\n
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          > Mormons didn’t break out into civil war after Smith died.\n
          \n
          You might want to read up on the [succession crisis](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Succession_crisis_(Latter_Day_Saints))\n
          \n
          > Scientologists are also doing fine.\n
          \n
          You might want to look into the [Free Zone](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Zone_(Scientology)) schisms from Scientology near and after L Ron’s death.
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    He was almost certainly not fictional.\n
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          > I don’t get why you buy into Bible Literalism.\n
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          I don’t, and I’m not sure where you get the sense that I do.\n
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          There’s a very wide gulf between thinking that a historical person named Jesus existed and that the New Testament depiction of that person is accurate.\n
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          There’s a ton of things in there that are pretty clearly BS, but the way in which they are BS seems much more like an attempt to spin historical events than to invent them from scratch.\n
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          But it’s all okay because a rooster crowed?\n
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          That sounds a lot more like there had been earlier eyewitness testimony or rumors about “hollow rock” having had a more prominent role in testifying against a historical figure which needed to be spun to be a lesser offense which was explained away as acceptable than it sounds like a fabrication originated by a religious organization owing itself to “hollow rock.”\n
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          My point is that this kind of undermining and spin - “yes Cephas denied him but it was prophesied” or “no, the women *actually* saw the empty tomb they just didn’t tell anyone, we pinky swear” - is the kind of thing we should expect from a very early split around a cultush origin and not something like Mithraism where a mythologized narrative is adapted and embellished from purely fictional origins.\n
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          As for publishing - I’d like to and plan to one day probably at least do a video series on the topic. But this is a hobby and people take religion *very* seriously to an irrational degree so I’m probably not going to be comfortable linking my real world self to a counter-cannonical Christian public stance until I’m retired. On the upside that gives me many more years to continue to find out more nuances.
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          - Gospel of Thomas saying 84\n
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          > For if someone comes and proclaims another Jesus than the one we proclaimed, or if you receive a different spirit from the one you received, or a different gospel from the one you accepted, you put up with it readily enough. I think that I am not in the least inferior to these super-apostles.\n
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          > Plus you know we have no evidence that Buddhism had that fighting after Siddharth death\n
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          You might want to read up on the [succession crisis](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Succession_crisis_(Latter_Day_Saints))\n
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          > Scientologists are also doing fine.\n
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          You might want to look into the [Free Zone](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Zone_(Scientology)) schisms from Scientology near and after L Ron’s death.
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        While it doesn’t address the topic of consciousness, you might find some of how this sort of “backwards in time change” is being applied today interesting:\n
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        Which is why QM interpretations are considered to be part of Physics *philosophy* as you can see the link to the weighty writeup on the Copenhagen Interpretation is part of Stanford’s *Encyclopedia of Philosophy*.\n
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        Also, their interpretation of what’s happening largely falls apart with the quantum eraser variations.\n
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        Right, Roger Penrose and Eugene Wigner and a host of other physicists who subscribe/d to consciousness collapse interpretations aren’t people who care about evidence…\n
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        It’s wild how many people are so quick to be confidently incorrect about something that *sounds* correct and science-ish but doesn’t at all reflect the actual subspecialty nuances.\n
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        **Literally none of the QM interpretations have evidence supporting their particular interpretation.**\n
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        Young’s double slit experiment.\n
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        When which slit a photon goes through is unobserved, it behaves like a wave and self interferes so many photons create an interference pattern with stripes where self-interactions prevented any photons from appearing.\n
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        When the photon is interacted with in a way which leaves permanent information about which slit it went through, it behaves like a particle and the pattern from many photons looks ‘ballistic’ like you were shooting tiny balls through each slit.\n
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        While it doesn’t address the topic of consciousness, you might find some of how this sort of “backwards in time change” is being applied today interesting:\n
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        [phys.org/…/2023-10-simulations-scientific.html](https://phys.org/news/2023-10-simulations-scientific.html)\n
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        Which is why QM interpretations are considered to be part of Physics *philosophy* as you can see the link to the weighty writeup on the Copenhagen Interpretation is part of Stanford’s *Encyclopedia of Philosophy*.\n
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        Also, their interpretation of what’s happening largely falls apart with the quantum eraser variations.\n
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        If it’s collapse from mechanical measurement side effects, why does it go back to an interference pattern when which path information is erased by a polarizer?
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      +body: "So how do you explain the [quantum eraser experiment](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_eraser_experiment) (note for those who might be excited to respond with recent YouTube physics videos, this is **not** the *delayed choice* quantum eraser, and has nothing to do with retrocausality claims)?"
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        Right, Roger Penrose and Eugene Wigner and a host of other physicists who subscribe/d to consciousness collapse interpretations aren’t people who care about evidence…\n
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        It’s wild how many people are so quick to be confidently incorrect about something that *sounds* correct and science-ish but doesn’t at all reflect the actual subspecialty nuances.\n
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        **Literally none of the QM interpretations have evidence supporting their particular interpretation.**\n
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        Young’s double slit experiment.\n
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        While it doesn’t address the topic of consciousness, you might find some of how this sort of “backwards in time change” is being applied today interesting:\n
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        [phys.org/…/2023-10-simulations-scientific.html](https://phys.org/news/2023-10-simulations-scientific.html)\n
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        Which is why QM interpretations are considered to be part of Physics *philosophy* as you can see the link to the weighty writeup on the Copenhagen Interpretation is part of Stanford’s *Encyclopedia of Philosophy*.\n
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        Also, their interpretation of what’s happening largely falls apart with the quantum eraser variations.\n
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      +body: "So how do you explain the [quantum eraser experiment](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_eraser_experiment) (note for those who might be excited to respond with recent YouTube physics videos, this is **not** the *delayed choice* quantum eraser, and has nothing to do with retrocausality claims)?"
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        Right, Roger Penrose and Eugene Wigner and a host of other physicists who subscribe/d to consciousness collapse interpretations aren’t people who care about evidence…\n
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        It’s wild how many people are so quick to be confidently incorrect about something that *sounds* correct and science-ish but doesn’t at all reflect the actual subspecialty nuances.\n
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        Young’s double slit experiment.\n
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          Which is why QM interpretations are considered to be part of Physics *philosophy* as you can see the link to the weighty writeup on the Copenhagen Interpretation is part of Stanford’s *Encyclopedia of Philosophy*.\n
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          Also, their interpretation of what’s happening largely falls apart with the quantum eraser variations.\n
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        +body: "Yes, effectively the photon goes through both slits, and the interference pattern or ballistic pattern relates to when decoherence occurs, either at the point a which slit measurement is made or at the point it hits the detector."
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        +body: "So how do you explain the [quantum eraser experiment](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_eraser_experiment) (note for those who might be excited to respond with recent YouTube physics videos, this is **not** the *delayed choice* quantum eraser, and has nothing to do with retrocausality claims)?"
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          Right, Roger Penrose and Eugene Wigner and a host of other physicists who subscribe/d to consciousness collapse interpretations aren’t people who care about evidence…\n
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          It’s wild how many people are so quick to be confidently incorrect about something that *sounds* correct and science-ish but doesn’t at all reflect the actual subspecialty nuances.\n
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          **Literally none of the QM interpretations have evidence supporting their particular interpretation.**\n
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          There’s simply different inherent assumptions that different physicists are willing to entertain, but it’s entirely a personal choice and ultimately not evidence driven.\n
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          Young’s double slit experiment.\n
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          When which slit a photon goes through is unobserved, it behaves like a wave and self interferes so many photons create an interference pattern with stripes where self-interactions prevented any photons from appearing.\n
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    While it doesn’t address the topic of consciousness, you might find some of how this sort of “backwards in time change” is being applied today interesting:\n
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    [phys.org/…/2023-10-simulations-scientific.html](https://phys.org/news/2023-10-simulations-scientific.html)\n
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    Which led to what’s currently my favorite titled paper, *Stable facts, relative facts*: [arxiv.org/abs/2006.15543](https://arxiv.org/abs/2006.15543)\n
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    So one of the challenges that would arise from layers of delayed/hidden observations would be whether you’d even have universal agreement at the final review. i.e. The computer might have observed the cat as alive and baked a cake celebrating it, but then you open the box to a dead cat, each having correctly observed a result, just separated enough that they didn’t need to agree.
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          Which is why QM interpretations are considered to be part of Physics *philosophy* as you can see the link to the weighty writeup on the Copenhagen Interpretation is part of Stanford’s *Encyclopedia of Philosophy*.\n
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          Also, their interpretation of what’s happening largely falls apart with the quantum eraser variations.\n
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        +body: "So how do you explain the [quantum eraser experiment](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_eraser_experiment) (note for those who might be excited to respond with recent YouTube physics videos, this is **not** the *delayed choice* quantum eraser, and has nothing to do with retrocausality claims)?"
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          Right, Roger Penrose and Eugene Wigner and a host of other physicists who subscribe/d to consciousness collapse interpretations aren’t people who care about evidence…\n
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          Young’s double slit experiment.\n
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    While it doesn’t address the topic of consciousness, you might find some of how this sort of “backwards in time change” is being applied today interesting:\n
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    Which led to what’s currently my favorite titled paper, *Stable facts, relative facts*: [arxiv.org/abs/2006.15543](https://arxiv.org/abs/2006.15543)\n
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    So one of the challenges that would arise from layers of delayed/hidden observations would be whether you’d even have universal agreement at the final review. i.e. The computer might have observed the cat as alive and baked a cake celebrating it, but then you open the box to a dead cat, each having correctly observed a result, just separated enough that they didn’t need to agree.
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          Which is why QM interpretations are considered to be part of Physics *philosophy* as you can see the link to the weighty writeup on the Copenhagen Interpretation is part of Stanford’s *Encyclopedia of Philosophy*.\n
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          Also, their interpretation of what’s happening largely falls apart with the quantum eraser variations.\n
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        +body: "Yes, effectively the photon goes through both slits, and the interference pattern or ballistic pattern relates to when decoherence occurs, either at the point a which slit measurement is made or at the point it hits the detector."
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        +body: "So how do you explain the [quantum eraser experiment](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_eraser_experiment) (note for those who might be excited to respond with recent YouTube physics videos, this is **not** the *delayed choice* quantum eraser, and has nothing to do with retrocausality claims)?"
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          Right, Roger Penrose and Eugene Wigner and a host of other physicists who subscribe/d to consciousness collapse interpretations aren’t people who care about evidence…\n
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          It’s wild how many people are so quick to be confidently incorrect about something that *sounds* correct and science-ish but doesn’t at all reflect the actual subspecialty nuances.\n
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          **Literally none of the QM interpretations have evidence supporting their particular interpretation.**\n
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          Young’s double slit experiment.\n
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    While it doesn’t address the topic of consciousness, you might find some of how this sort of “backwards in time change” is being applied today interesting:\n
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    [phys.org/…/2023-10-simulations-scientific.html](https://phys.org/news/2023-10-simulations-scientific.html)\n
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    Additionally, the philosophy of quantum measurement is kind of up in the air after a 2020 experiment:\n
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    [science.org/…/quantum-paradox-points-shaky-founda…](https://www.science.org/content/article/quantum-paradox-points-shaky-foundations-reality)\n
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    Which led to what’s currently my favorite titled paper, *Stable facts, relative facts*: [arxiv.org/abs/2006.15543](https://arxiv.org/abs/2006.15543)\n
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    So one of the challenges that would arise from layers of delayed/hidden observations would be whether you’d even have universal agreement at the final review. i.e. The computer might have observed the cat as alive and baked a cake celebrating it, but then you open the box to a dead cat, each having correctly observed a result, just separated enough that they didn’t need to agree.
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          While it doesn’t address the topic of consciousness, you might find some of how this sort of “backwards in time change” is being applied today interesting:\n
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          [phys.org/…/2023-10-simulations-scientific.html](https://phys.org/news/2023-10-simulations-scientific.html)\n
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          Additionally, the philosophy of quantum measurement is kind of up in the air after a 2020 experiment:\n
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          Also, their interpretation of what’s happening largely falls apart with the quantum eraser variations.\n
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        +body: "Yes, effectively the photon goes through both slits, and the interference pattern or ballistic pattern relates to when decoherence occurs, either at the point a which slit measurement is made or at the point it hits the detector."
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        +body: "So how do you explain the [quantum eraser experiment](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_eraser_experiment) (note for those who might be excited to respond with recent YouTube physics videos, this is **not** the *delayed choice* quantum eraser, and has nothing to do with retrocausality claims)?"
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          Right, Roger Penrose and Eugene Wigner and a host of other physicists who subscribe/d to consciousness collapse interpretations aren’t people who care about evidence…\n
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          It’s wild how many people are so quick to be confidently incorrect about something that *sounds* correct and science-ish but doesn’t at all reflect the actual subspecialty nuances.\n
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          **Literally none of the QM interpretations have evidence supporting their particular interpretation.**\n
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          **There’s no more evidence for Copenhagen or many worlds than there is for consciousness collapse.**\n
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          There’s simply different inherent assumptions that different physicists are willing to entertain, but it’s entirely a personal choice and ultimately not evidence driven.\n
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          And the picture of assumptions changes over time. For example, post-2018 all popular interpretations other than many worlds have a new “pick at least one of three” assumptions that must be embraced following a new paradox. But currently that’s pretty much the only guiding factor, is what assumptions one is willing to entertain.
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          Young’s double slit experiment.\n
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    Which is why QM interpretations are considered to be part of Physics *philosophy* as you can see the link to the weighty writeup on the Copenhagen Interpretation is part of Stanford’s *Encyclopedia of Philosophy*.\n
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          While it doesn’t address the topic of consciousness, you might find some of how this sort of “backwards in time change” is being applied today interesting:\n
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          [phys.org/…/2023-10-simulations-scientific.html](https://phys.org/news/2023-10-simulations-scientific.html)\n
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          Also, their interpretation of what’s happening largely falls apart with the quantum eraser variations.\n
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        +body: "So how do you explain the [quantum eraser experiment](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_eraser_experiment) (note for those who might be excited to respond with recent YouTube physics videos, this is **not** the *delayed choice* quantum eraser, and has nothing to do with retrocausality claims)?"
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          Right, Roger Penrose and Eugene Wigner and a host of other physicists who subscribe/d to consciousness collapse interpretations aren’t people who care about evidence…\n
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          **Literally none of the QM interpretations have evidence supporting their particular interpretation.**\n
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          Young’s double slit experiment.\n
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    Which is why QM interpretations are considered to be part of Physics *philosophy* as you can see the link to the weighty writeup on the Copenhagen Interpretation is part of Stanford’s *Encyclopedia of Philosophy*.\n
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          While it doesn’t address the topic of consciousness, you might find some of how this sort of “backwards in time change” is being applied today interesting:\n
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          [phys.org/…/2023-10-simulations-scientific.html](https://phys.org/news/2023-10-simulations-scientific.html)\n
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          Additionally, the philosophy of quantum measurement is kind of up in the air after a 2020 experiment:\n
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          [science.org/…/quantum-paradox-points-shaky-founda…](https://www.science.org/content/article/quantum-paradox-points-shaky-foundations-reality)\n
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          Which led to what’s currently my favorite titled paper, *Stable facts, relative facts*: [arxiv.org/abs/2006.15543](https://arxiv.org/abs/2006.15543)\n
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          So one of the challenges that would arise from layers of delayed/hidden observations would be whether you’d even have universal agreement at the final review. i.e. The computer might have observed the cat as alive and baked a cake celebrating it, but then you open the box to a dead cat, each having correctly observed a result, just separated enough that they didn’t need to agree.
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          Also, their interpretation of what’s happening largely falls apart with the quantum eraser variations.\n
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          If it’s collapse from mechanical measurement side effects, why does it go back to an interference pattern when which path information is erased by a polarizer?
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        +body: "Yes, effectively the photon goes through both slits, and the interference pattern or ballistic pattern relates to when decoherence occurs, either at the point a which slit measurement is made or at the point it hits the detector."
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        +body: "So how do you explain the [quantum eraser experiment](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_eraser_experiment) (note for those who might be excited to respond with recent YouTube physics videos, this is **not** the *delayed choice* quantum eraser, and has nothing to do with retrocausality claims)?"
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          Right, Roger Penrose and Eugene Wigner and a host of other physicists who subscribe/d to consciousness collapse interpretations aren’t people who care about evidence…\n
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          It’s wild how many people are so quick to be confidently incorrect about something that *sounds* correct and science-ish but doesn’t at all reflect the actual subspecialty nuances.\n
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          **Literally none of the QM interpretations have evidence supporting their particular interpretation.**\n
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          At best there’s a handful that have been abandoned due to falsification, like interpretations predicated on local hidden variables.\n
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          **There’s no more evidence for Copenhagen or many worlds than there is for consciousness collapse.**\n
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          There’s simply different inherent assumptions that different physicists are willing to entertain, but it’s entirely a personal choice and ultimately not evidence driven.\n
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          And the picture of assumptions changes over time. For example, post-2018 all popular interpretations other than many worlds have a new “pick at least one of three” assumptions that must be embraced following a new paradox. But currently that’s pretty much the only guiding factor, is what assumptions one is willing to entertain.
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          Young’s double slit experiment.\n
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          When which slit a photon goes through is unobserved, it behaves like a wave and self interferes so many photons create an interference pattern with stripes where self-interactions prevented any photons from appearing.\n
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          When the photon is interacted with in a way which leaves permanent information about which slit it went through, it behaves like a particle and the pattern from many photons looks ‘ballistic’ like you were shooting tiny balls through each slit.\n
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          So in the meme when he’s not looking at the slits, there’s stripes, and when he’s looking it’s a ballistic pattern.
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    Which is why QM interpretations are considered to be part of Physics *philosophy* as you can see the link to the weighty writeup on the Copenhagen Interpretation is part of Stanford’s *Encyclopedia of Philosophy*.\n
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    But *all* interpretations are part of philosophy and are currently not falsifiable. Not just the ones someone may not like.
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          While it doesn’t address the topic of consciousness, you might find some of how this sort of “backwards in time change” is being applied today interesting:\n
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          [phys.org/…/2023-10-simulations-scientific.html](https://phys.org/news/2023-10-simulations-scientific.html)\n
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          Which led to what’s currently my favorite titled paper, *Stable facts, relative facts*: [arxiv.org/abs/2006.15543](https://arxiv.org/abs/2006.15543)\n
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          Which is why QM interpretations are considered to be part of Physics *philosophy* as you can see the link to the weighty writeup on the Copenhagen Interpretation is part of Stanford’s *Encyclopedia of Philosophy*.\n
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        +body: "Yes, effectively the photon goes through both slits, and the interference pattern or ballistic pattern relates to when decoherence occurs, either at the point a which slit measurement is made or at the point it hits the detector."
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        +body: "So how do you explain the [quantum eraser experiment](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_eraser_experiment) (note for those who might be excited to respond with recent YouTube physics videos, this is **not** the *delayed choice* quantum eraser, and has nothing to do with retrocausality claims)?"
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          Right, Roger Penrose and Eugene Wigner and a host of other physicists who subscribe/d to consciousness collapse interpretations aren’t people who care about evidence…\n
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          **Literally none of the QM interpretations have evidence supporting their particular interpretation.**\n
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          And the picture of assumptions changes over time. For example, post-2018 all popular interpretations other than many worlds have a new “pick at least one of three” assumptions that must be embraced following a new paradox. But currently that’s pretty much the only guiding factor, is what assumptions one is willing to entertain.
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          Young’s double slit experiment.\n
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    Also, their interpretation of what’s happening largely falls apart with the quantum eraser variations.\n
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          While it doesn’t address the topic of consciousness, you might find some of how this sort of “backwards in time change” is being applied today interesting:\n
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          [phys.org/…/2023-10-simulations-scientific.html](https://phys.org/news/2023-10-simulations-scientific.html)\n
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          Which led to what’s currently my favorite titled paper, *Stable facts, relative facts*: [arxiv.org/abs/2006.15543](https://arxiv.org/abs/2006.15543)\n
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          Which is why QM interpretations are considered to be part of Physics *philosophy* as you can see the link to the weighty writeup on the Copenhagen Interpretation is part of Stanford’s *Encyclopedia of Philosophy*.\n
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        +body: "Yes, effectively the photon goes through both slits, and the interference pattern or ballistic pattern relates to when decoherence occurs, either at the point a which slit measurement is made or at the point it hits the detector."
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        +body: "So how do you explain the [quantum eraser experiment](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_eraser_experiment) (note for those who might be excited to respond with recent YouTube physics videos, this is **not** the *delayed choice* quantum eraser, and has nothing to do with retrocausality claims)?"
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          Right, Roger Penrose and Eugene Wigner and a host of other physicists who subscribe/d to consciousness collapse interpretations aren’t people who care about evidence…\n
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          It’s wild how many people are so quick to be confidently incorrect about something that *sounds* correct and science-ish but doesn’t at all reflect the actual subspecialty nuances.\n
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          **Literally none of the QM interpretations have evidence supporting their particular interpretation.**\n
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          Young’s double slit experiment.\n
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    Also, their interpretation of what’s happening largely falls apart with the quantum eraser variations.\n
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    If it’s collapse from mechanical measurement side effects, why does it go back to an interference pattern when which path information is erased by a polarizer?
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          While it doesn’t address the topic of consciousness, you might find some of how this sort of “backwards in time change” is being applied today interesting:\n
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          Which is why QM interpretations are considered to be part of Physics *philosophy* as you can see the link to the weighty writeup on the Copenhagen Interpretation is part of Stanford’s *Encyclopedia of Philosophy*.\n
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        +body: "Yes, effectively the photon goes through both slits, and the interference pattern or ballistic pattern relates to when decoherence occurs, either at the point a which slit measurement is made or at the point it hits the detector."
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        +body: "So how do you explain the [quantum eraser experiment](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_eraser_experiment) (note for those who might be excited to respond with recent YouTube physics videos, this is **not** the *delayed choice* quantum eraser, and has nothing to do with retrocausality claims)?"
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          Right, Roger Penrose and Eugene Wigner and a host of other physicists who subscribe/d to consciousness collapse interpretations aren’t people who care about evidence…\n
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          It’s wild how many people are so quick to be confidently incorrect about something that *sounds* correct and science-ish but doesn’t at all reflect the actual subspecialty nuances.\n
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          **Literally none of the QM interpretations have evidence supporting their particular interpretation.**\n
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          At best there’s a handful that have been abandoned due to falsification, like interpretations predicated on local hidden variables.\n
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          **There’s no more evidence for Copenhagen or many worlds than there is for consciousness collapse.**\n
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          There’s simply different inherent assumptions that different physicists are willing to entertain, but it’s entirely a personal choice and ultimately not evidence driven.\n
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          And the picture of assumptions changes over time. For example, post-2018 all popular interpretations other than many worlds have a new “pick at least one of three” assumptions that must be embraced following a new paradox. But currently that’s pretty much the only guiding factor, is what assumptions one is willing to entertain.
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          Young’s double slit experiment.\n
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          When which slit a photon goes through is unobserved, it behaves like a wave and self interferes so many photons create an interference pattern with stripes where self-interactions prevented any photons from appearing.\n
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          When the photon is interacted with in a way which leaves permanent information about which slit it went through, it behaves like a particle and the pattern from many photons looks ‘ballistic’ like you were shooting tiny balls through each slit.\n
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    Also, their interpretation of what’s happening largely falls apart with the quantum eraser variations.\n
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    If it’s collapse from mechanical measurement side effects, why does it go back to an interference pattern when which path information is erased by a polarizer?
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          While it doesn’t address the topic of consciousness, you might find some of how this sort of “backwards in time change” is being applied today interesting:\n
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          [phys.org/…/2023-10-simulations-scientific.html](https://phys.org/news/2023-10-simulations-scientific.html)\n
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          [science.org/…/quantum-paradox-points-shaky-founda…](https://www.science.org/content/article/quantum-paradox-points-shaky-foundations-reality)\n
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          Which led to what’s currently my favorite titled paper, *Stable facts, relative facts*: [arxiv.org/abs/2006.15543](https://arxiv.org/abs/2006.15543)\n
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          So one of the challenges that would arise from layers of delayed/hidden observations would be whether you’d even have universal agreement at the final review. i.e. The computer might have observed the cat as alive and baked a cake celebrating it, but then you open the box to a dead cat, each having correctly observed a result, just separated enough that they didn’t need to agree.
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          Which is why QM interpretations are considered to be part of Physics *philosophy* as you can see the link to the weighty writeup on the Copenhagen Interpretation is part of Stanford’s *Encyclopedia of Philosophy*.\n
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          Also, their interpretation of what’s happening largely falls apart with the quantum eraser variations.\n
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          If it’s collapse from mechanical measurement side effects, why does it go back to an interference pattern when which path information is erased by a polarizer?
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        +body: "So how do you explain the [quantum eraser experiment](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_eraser_experiment) (note for those who might be excited to respond with recent YouTube physics videos, this is **not** the *delayed choice* quantum eraser, and has nothing to do with retrocausality claims)?"
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          Right, Roger Penrose and Eugene Wigner and a host of other physicists who subscribe/d to consciousness collapse interpretations aren’t people who care about evidence…\n
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          It’s wild how many people are so quick to be confidently incorrect about something that *sounds* correct and science-ish but doesn’t at all reflect the actual subspecialty nuances.\n
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          **Literally none of the QM interpretations have evidence supporting their particular interpretation.**\n
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          At best there’s a handful that have been abandoned due to falsification, like interpretations predicated on local hidden variables.\n
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          **There’s no more evidence for Copenhagen or many worlds than there is for consciousness collapse.**\n
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          There’s simply different inherent assumptions that different physicists are willing to entertain, but it’s entirely a personal choice and ultimately not evidence driven.\n
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          And the picture of assumptions changes over time. For example, post-2018 all popular interpretations other than many worlds have a new “pick at least one of three” assumptions that must be embraced following a new paradox. But currently that’s pretty much the only guiding factor, is what assumptions one is willing to entertain.
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          Young’s double slit experiment.\n
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          When the photon is interacted with in a way which leaves permanent information about which slit it went through, it behaves like a particle and the pattern from many photons looks ‘ballistic’ like you were shooting tiny balls through each slit.\n
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          While it doesn’t address the topic of consciousness, you might find some of how this sort of “backwards in time change” is being applied today interesting:\n
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          Which led to what’s currently my favorite titled paper, *Stable facts, relative facts*: [arxiv.org/abs/2006.15543](https://arxiv.org/abs/2006.15543)\n
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          Which is why QM interpretations are considered to be part of Physics *philosophy* as you can see the link to the weighty writeup on the Copenhagen Interpretation is part of Stanford’s *Encyclopedia of Philosophy*.\n
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          Also, their interpretation of what’s happening largely falls apart with the quantum eraser variations.\n
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          If it’s collapse from mechanical measurement side effects, why does it go back to an interference pattern when which path information is erased by a polarizer?
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        +body: "So how do you explain the [quantum eraser experiment](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_eraser_experiment) (note for those who might be excited to respond with recent YouTube physics videos, this is **not** the *delayed choice* quantum eraser, and has nothing to do with retrocausality claims)?"
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          Right, Roger Penrose and Eugene Wigner and a host of other physicists who subscribe/d to consciousness collapse interpretations aren’t people who care about evidence…\n
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          It’s wild how many people are so quick to be confidently incorrect about something that *sounds* correct and science-ish but doesn’t at all reflect the actual subspecialty nuances.\n
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          **Literally none of the QM interpretations have evidence supporting their particular interpretation.**\n
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          Young’s double slit experiment.\n
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          While it doesn’t address the topic of consciousness, you might find some of how this sort of “backwards in time change” is being applied today interesting:\n
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          Which is why QM interpretations are considered to be part of Physics *philosophy* as you can see the link to the weighty writeup on the Copenhagen Interpretation is part of Stanford’s *Encyclopedia of Philosophy*.\n
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          Also, their interpretation of what’s happening largely falls apart with the quantum eraser variations.\n
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          If it’s collapse from mechanical measurement side effects, why does it go back to an interference pattern when which path information is erased by a polarizer?
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        +body: "So how do you explain the [quantum eraser experiment](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_eraser_experiment) (note for those who might be excited to respond with recent YouTube physics videos, this is **not** the *delayed choice* quantum eraser, and has nothing to do with retrocausality claims)?"
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          Right, Roger Penrose and Eugene Wigner and a host of other physicists who subscribe/d to consciousness collapse interpretations aren’t people who care about evidence…\n
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          It’s wild how many people are so quick to be confidently incorrect about something that *sounds* correct and science-ish but doesn’t at all reflect the actual subspecialty nuances.\n
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          **Literally none of the QM interpretations have evidence supporting their particular interpretation.**\n
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          At best there’s a handful that have been abandoned due to falsification, like interpretations predicated on local hidden variables.\n
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          **There’s no more evidence for Copenhagen or many worlds than there is for consciousness collapse.**\n
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          There’s simply different inherent assumptions that different physicists are willing to entertain, but it’s entirely a personal choice and ultimately not evidence driven.\n
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          And the picture of assumptions changes over time. For example, post-2018 all popular interpretations other than many worlds have a new “pick at least one of three” assumptions that must be embraced following a new paradox. But currently that’s pretty much the only guiding factor, is what assumptions one is willing to entertain.
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          Young’s double slit experiment.\n
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          When the photon is interacted with in a way which leaves permanent information about which slit it went through, it behaves like a particle and the pattern from many photons looks ‘ballistic’ like you were shooting tiny balls through each slit.\n
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          While it doesn’t address the topic of consciousness, you might find some of how this sort of “backwards in time change” is being applied today interesting:\n
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          Which is why QM interpretations are considered to be part of Physics *philosophy* as you can see the link to the weighty writeup on the Copenhagen Interpretation is part of Stanford’s *Encyclopedia of Philosophy*.\n
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          Also, their interpretation of what’s happening largely falls apart with the quantum eraser variations.\n
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        +body: "Yes, effectively the photon goes through both slits, and the interference pattern or ballistic pattern relates to when decoherence occurs, either at the point a which slit measurement is made or at the point it hits the detector."
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          Right, Roger Penrose and Eugene Wigner and a host of other physicists who subscribe/d to consciousness collapse interpretations aren’t people who care about evidence…\n
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          It’s wild how many people are so quick to be confidently incorrect about something that *sounds* correct and science-ish but doesn’t at all reflect the actual subspecialty nuances.\n
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          **Literally none of the QM interpretations have evidence supporting their particular interpretation.**\n
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          And the picture of assumptions changes over time. For example, post-2018 all popular interpretations other than many worlds have a new “pick at least one of three” assumptions that must be embraced following a new paradox. But currently that’s pretty much the only guiding factor, is what assumptions one is willing to entertain.
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          Young’s double slit experiment.\n
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          When which slit a photon goes through is unobserved, it behaves like a wave and self interferes so many photons create an interference pattern with stripes where self-interactions prevented any photons from appearing.\n
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          When the photon is interacted with in a way which leaves permanent information about which slit it went through, it behaves like a particle and the pattern from many photons looks ‘ballistic’ like you were shooting tiny balls through each slit.\n
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          So in the meme when he’s not looking at the slits, there’s stripes, and when he’s looking it’s a ballistic pattern.
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  +body: "So how do you explain the [quantum eraser experiment](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_eraser_experiment) (note for those who might be excited to respond with recent YouTube physics videos, this is **not** the *delayed choice* quantum eraser, and has nothing to do with retrocausality claims)?"
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          While it doesn’t address the topic of consciousness, you might find some of how this sort of “backwards in time change” is being applied today interesting:\n
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          [phys.org/…/2023-10-simulations-scientific.html](https://phys.org/news/2023-10-simulations-scientific.html)\n
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          Which led to what’s currently my favorite titled paper, *Stable facts, relative facts*: [arxiv.org/abs/2006.15543](https://arxiv.org/abs/2006.15543)\n
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          Which is why QM interpretations are considered to be part of Physics *philosophy* as you can see the link to the weighty writeup on the Copenhagen Interpretation is part of Stanford’s *Encyclopedia of Philosophy*.\n
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          But *all* interpretations are part of philosophy and are currently not falsifiable. Not just the ones someone may not like.
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          Also, their interpretation of what’s happening largely falls apart with the quantum eraser variations.\n
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          If it’s collapse from mechanical measurement side effects, why does it go back to an interference pattern when which path information is erased by a polarizer?
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        +body: "Yes, effectively the photon goes through both slits, and the interference pattern or ballistic pattern relates to when decoherence occurs, either at the point a which slit measurement is made or at the point it hits the detector."
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          Right, Roger Penrose and Eugene Wigner and a host of other physicists who subscribe/d to consciousness collapse interpretations aren’t people who care about evidence…\n
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          It’s wild how many people are so quick to be confidently incorrect about something that *sounds* correct and science-ish but doesn’t at all reflect the actual subspecialty nuances.\n
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          **Literally none of the QM interpretations have evidence supporting their particular interpretation.**\n
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          **There’s no more evidence for Copenhagen or many worlds than there is for consciousness collapse.**\n
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          There’s simply different inherent assumptions that different physicists are willing to entertain, but it’s entirely a personal choice and ultimately not evidence driven.\n
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          And the picture of assumptions changes over time. For example, post-2018 all popular interpretations other than many worlds have a new “pick at least one of three” assumptions that must be embraced following a new paradox. But currently that’s pretty much the only guiding factor, is what assumptions one is willing to entertain.
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          Young’s double slit experiment.\n
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          When which slit a photon goes through is unobserved, it behaves like a wave and self interferes so many photons create an interference pattern with stripes where self-interactions prevented any photons from appearing.\n
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          When the photon is interacted with in a way which leaves permanent information about which slit it went through, it behaves like a particle and the pattern from many photons looks ‘ballistic’ like you were shooting tiny balls through each slit.\n
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          So in the meme when he’s not looking at the slits, there’s stripes, and when he’s looking it’s a ballistic pattern.
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          While it doesn’t address the topic of consciousness, you might find some of how this sort of “backwards in time change” is being applied today interesting:\n
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          [phys.org/…/2023-10-simulations-scientific.html](https://phys.org/news/2023-10-simulations-scientific.html)\n
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          So one of the challenges that would arise from layers of delayed/hidden observations would be whether you’d even have universal agreement at the final review. i.e. The computer might have observed the cat as alive and baked a cake celebrating it, but then you open the box to a dead cat, each having correctly observed a result, just separated enough that they didn’t need to agree.
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          Which is why QM interpretations are considered to be part of Physics *philosophy* as you can see the link to the weighty writeup on the Copenhagen Interpretation is part of Stanford’s *Encyclopedia of Philosophy*.\n
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          Also, their interpretation of what’s happening largely falls apart with the quantum eraser variations.\n
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          Right, Roger Penrose and Eugene Wigner and a host of other physicists who subscribe/d to consciousness collapse interpretations aren’t people who care about evidence…\n
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          It’s wild how many people are so quick to be confidently incorrect about something that *sounds* correct and science-ish but doesn’t at all reflect the actual subspecialty nuances.\n
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          **Literally none of the QM interpretations have evidence supporting their particular interpretation.**\n
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          **There’s no more evidence for Copenhagen or many worlds than there is for consciousness collapse.**\n
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          There’s simply different inherent assumptions that different physicists are willing to entertain, but it’s entirely a personal choice and ultimately not evidence driven.\n
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          And the picture of assumptions changes over time. For example, post-2018 all popular interpretations other than many worlds have a new “pick at least one of three” assumptions that must be embraced following a new paradox. But currently that’s pretty much the only guiding factor, is what assumptions one is willing to entertain.
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          Young’s double slit experiment.\n
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          When which slit a photon goes through is unobserved, it behaves like a wave and self interferes so many photons create an interference pattern with stripes where self-interactions prevented any photons from appearing.\n
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          When the photon is interacted with in a way which leaves permanent information about which slit it went through, it behaves like a particle and the pattern from many photons looks ‘ballistic’ like you were shooting tiny balls through each slit.\n
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          While it doesn’t address the topic of consciousness, you might find some of how this sort of “backwards in time change” is being applied today interesting:\n
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          Which is why QM interpretations are considered to be part of Physics *philosophy* as you can see the link to the weighty writeup on the Copenhagen Interpretation is part of Stanford’s *Encyclopedia of Philosophy*.\n
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          Also, their interpretation of what’s happening largely falls apart with the quantum eraser variations.\n
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          If it’s collapse from mechanical measurement side effects, why does it go back to an interference pattern when which path information is erased by a polarizer?
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        +body: "So how do you explain the [quantum eraser experiment](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_eraser_experiment) (note for those who might be excited to respond with recent YouTube physics videos, this is **not** the *delayed choice* quantum eraser, and has nothing to do with retrocausality claims)?"
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          Young’s double slit experiment.\n
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          When which slit a photon goes through is unobserved, it behaves like a wave and self interferes so many photons create an interference pattern with stripes where self-interactions prevented any photons from appearing.\n
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    Right, Roger Penrose and Eugene Wigner and a host of other physicists who subscribe/d to consciousness collapse interpretations aren’t people who care about evidence…\n
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    It’s wild how many people are so quick to be confidently incorrect about something that *sounds* correct and science-ish but doesn’t at all reflect the actual subspecialty nuances.\n
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    **Literally none of the QM interpretations have evidence supporting their particular interpretation.**\n
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    At best there’s a handful that have been abandoned due to falsification, like interpretations predicated on local hidden variables.\n
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    **There’s no more evidence for Copenhagen or many worlds than there is for consciousness collapse.**\n
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    There’s simply different inherent assumptions that different physicists are willing to entertain, but it’s entirely a personal choice and ultimately not evidence driven.\n
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    And the picture of assumptions changes over time. For example, post-2018 all popular interpretations other than many worlds have a new “pick at least one of three” assumptions that must be embraced following a new paradox. But currently that’s pretty much the only guiding factor, is what assumptions one is willing to entertain.
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          While it doesn’t address the topic of consciousness, you might find some of how this sort of “backwards in time change” is being applied today interesting:\n
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          [phys.org/…/2023-10-simulations-scientific.html](https://phys.org/news/2023-10-simulations-scientific.html)\n
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          Which is why QM interpretations are considered to be part of Physics *philosophy* as you can see the link to the weighty writeup on the Copenhagen Interpretation is part of Stanford’s *Encyclopedia of Philosophy*.\n
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          Also, their interpretation of what’s happening largely falls apart with the quantum eraser variations.\n
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          If it’s collapse from mechanical measurement side effects, why does it go back to an interference pattern when which path information is erased by a polarizer?
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          Young’s double slit experiment.\n
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          When which slit a photon goes through is unobserved, it behaves like a wave and self interferes so many photons create an interference pattern with stripes where self-interactions prevented any photons from appearing.\n
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    Right, Roger Penrose and Eugene Wigner and a host of other physicists who subscribe/d to consciousness collapse interpretations aren’t people who care about evidence…\n
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    It’s wild how many people are so quick to be confidently incorrect about something that *sounds* correct and science-ish but doesn’t at all reflect the actual subspecialty nuances.\n
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    **Literally none of the QM interpretations have evidence supporting their particular interpretation.**\n
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    At best there’s a handful that have been abandoned due to falsification, like interpretations predicated on local hidden variables.\n
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    **There’s no more evidence for Copenhagen or many worlds than there is for consciousness collapse.**\n
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    There’s simply different inherent assumptions that different physicists are willing to entertain, but it’s entirely a personal choice and ultimately not evidence driven.\n
    \n
    And the picture of assumptions changes over time. For example, post-2018 all popular interpretations other than many worlds have a new “pick at least one of three” assumptions that must be embraced following a new paradox. But currently that’s pretty much the only guiding factor, is what assumptions one is willing to entertain.
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          While it doesn’t address the topic of consciousness, you might find some of how this sort of “backwards in time change” is being applied today interesting:\n
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          [phys.org/…/2023-10-simulations-scientific.html](https://phys.org/news/2023-10-simulations-scientific.html)\n
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          Which is why QM interpretations are considered to be part of Physics *philosophy* as you can see the link to the weighty writeup on the Copenhagen Interpretation is part of Stanford’s *Encyclopedia of Philosophy*.\n
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          Also, their interpretation of what’s happening largely falls apart with the quantum eraser variations.\n
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          If it’s collapse from mechanical measurement side effects, why does it go back to an interference pattern when which path information is erased by a polarizer?
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        +body: "Yes, effectively the photon goes through both slits, and the interference pattern or ballistic pattern relates to when decoherence occurs, either at the point a which slit measurement is made or at the point it hits the detector."
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        +body: "So how do you explain the [quantum eraser experiment](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_eraser_experiment) (note for those who might be excited to respond with recent YouTube physics videos, this is **not** the *delayed choice* quantum eraser, and has nothing to do with retrocausality claims)?"
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          Young’s double slit experiment.\n
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    Right, Roger Penrose and Eugene Wigner and a host of other physicists who subscribe/d to consciousness collapse interpretations aren’t people who care about evidence…\n
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    It’s wild how many people are so quick to be confidently incorrect about something that *sounds* correct and science-ish but doesn’t at all reflect the actual subspecialty nuances.\n
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    **Literally none of the QM interpretations have evidence supporting their particular interpretation.**\n
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    And the picture of assumptions changes over time. For example, post-2018 all popular interpretations other than many worlds have a new “pick at least one of three” assumptions that must be embraced following a new paradox. But currently that’s pretty much the only guiding factor, is what assumptions one is willing to entertain.
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          While it doesn’t address the topic of consciousness, you might find some of how this sort of “backwards in time change” is being applied today interesting:\n
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          Which is why QM interpretations are considered to be part of Physics *philosophy* as you can see the link to the weighty writeup on the Copenhagen Interpretation is part of Stanford’s *Encyclopedia of Philosophy*.\n
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          Also, their interpretation of what’s happening largely falls apart with the quantum eraser variations.\n
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        +body: "So how do you explain the [quantum eraser experiment](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_eraser_experiment) (note for those who might be excited to respond with recent YouTube physics videos, this is **not** the *delayed choice* quantum eraser, and has nothing to do with retrocausality claims)?"
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          Right, Roger Penrose and Eugene Wigner and a host of other physicists who subscribe/d to consciousness collapse interpretations aren’t people who care about evidence…\n
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          It’s wild how many people are so quick to be confidently incorrect about something that *sounds* correct and science-ish but doesn’t at all reflect the actual subspecialty nuances.\n
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          **Literally none of the QM interpretations have evidence supporting their particular interpretation.**\n
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    Young’s double slit experiment.\n
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          While it doesn’t address the topic of consciousness, you might find some of how this sort of “backwards in time change” is being applied today interesting:\n
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          [phys.org/…/2023-10-simulations-scientific.html](https://phys.org/news/2023-10-simulations-scientific.html)\n
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          Which is why QM interpretations are considered to be part of Physics *philosophy* as you can see the link to the weighty writeup on the Copenhagen Interpretation is part of Stanford’s *Encyclopedia of Philosophy*.\n
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          Also, their interpretation of what’s happening largely falls apart with the quantum eraser variations.\n
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          If it’s collapse from mechanical measurement side effects, why does it go back to an interference pattern when which path information is erased by a polarizer?
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        +body: "So how do you explain the [quantum eraser experiment](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_eraser_experiment) (note for those who might be excited to respond with recent YouTube physics videos, this is **not** the *delayed choice* quantum eraser, and has nothing to do with retrocausality claims)?"
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          Right, Roger Penrose and Eugene Wigner and a host of other physicists who subscribe/d to consciousness collapse interpretations aren’t people who care about evidence…\n
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          **Literally none of the QM interpretations have evidence supporting their particular interpretation.**\n
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    Young’s double slit experiment.\n
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    When which slit a photon goes through is unobserved, it behaves like a wave and self interferes so many photons create an interference pattern with stripes where self-interactions prevented any photons from appearing.\n
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          While it doesn’t address the topic of consciousness, you might find some of how this sort of “backwards in time change” is being applied today interesting:\n
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          [phys.org/…/2023-10-simulations-scientific.html](https://phys.org/news/2023-10-simulations-scientific.html)\n
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          Which is why QM interpretations are considered to be part of Physics *philosophy* as you can see the link to the weighty writeup on the Copenhagen Interpretation is part of Stanford’s *Encyclopedia of Philosophy*.\n
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          Also, their interpretation of what’s happening largely falls apart with the quantum eraser variations.\n
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          If it’s collapse from mechanical measurement side effects, why does it go back to an interference pattern when which path information is erased by a polarizer?
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        +body: "Yes, effectively the photon goes through both slits, and the interference pattern or ballistic pattern relates to when decoherence occurs, either at the point a which slit measurement is made or at the point it hits the detector."
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        +body: "So how do you explain the [quantum eraser experiment](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_eraser_experiment) (note for those who might be excited to respond with recent YouTube physics videos, this is **not** the *delayed choice* quantum eraser, and has nothing to do with retrocausality claims)?"
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          Right, Roger Penrose and Eugene Wigner and a host of other physicists who subscribe/d to consciousness collapse interpretations aren’t people who care about evidence…\n
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          **Literally none of the QM interpretations have evidence supporting their particular interpretation.**\n
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    Young’s double slit experiment.\n
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"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
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"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
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