GET https://kbin.spritesserver.nl/u/@hi_its_me@lemmy.world

Response
200 OK
IP
123.17.121.123
Profiled on
Token
361c4c

Components

21 Twig Components
87 Render Count
224 ms Render Time
12.0 MiB Memory Usage

Components

Name Metadata Render Count Render Time
settings_row_switch 
"App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent"
components/_settings_row_switch.html.twig 		15 10.07ms
date 
"App\Twig\Components\DateComponent"
components/date.html.twig 		9 1.97ms
user_inline 
"App\Twig\Components\UserInlineComponent"
components/user_inline.html.twig 		8 5.08ms
date_edited 
"App\Twig\Components\DateEditedComponent"
components/date_edited.html.twig 		8 1.16ms
vote 
"App\Twig\Components\VoteComponent"
components/vote.html.twig 		8 12.28ms
boost 
"App\Twig\Components\BoostComponent"
components/boost.html.twig 		8 12.06ms
entry 
"App\Twig\Components\EntryComponent"
components/_cached.html.twig 		4 77.38ms
magazine_inline 
"App\Twig\Components\MagazineInlineComponent"
components/magazine_inline.html.twig 		4 1.20ms
entry_comment 
"App\Twig\Components\EntryCommentComponent"
components/entry_comment.html.twig 		4 54.89ms
user_avatar 
"App\Twig\Components\UserAvatarComponent"
components/user_avatar.html.twig 		4 1.44ms
user_settings_row_switch 
"App\Twig\Components\UserSettingsRowSwitchComponent"
components/_user_settings_row_switch.html.twig 		4 0.97ms
settings_row_enum 
"App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowEnumComponent"
components/_settings_row_enum.html.twig 		2 0.45ms
user_box 
"App\Twig\Components\UserBoxComponent"
components/user_box.html.twig 		1 2.85ms
user_actions 
"App\Twig\Components\UserActionsComponent"
components/user_actions.html.twig 		1 1.70ms
related_magazines 
"App\Twig\Components\RelatedMagazinesComponent"
components/_cached.html.twig 		1 18.14ms
active_users 
"App\Twig\Components\ActiveUsersComponent"
components/_cached.html.twig 		1 2.42ms
related_categories 
"App\Twig\Components\RelatedCategoriesComponent"
components/_cached.html.twig 		1 33.34ms
related_posts 
"App\Twig\Components\RelatedPostsComponent"
components/_cached.html.twig 		1 2.44ms
related_entries 
"App\Twig\Components\RelatedEntriesComponent"
components/_cached.html.twig 		1 3.33ms
support_us_block 
"App\Twig\Components\SupportUsBlock"
components/_cached.html.twig 		1 0.24ms
featured_magazines 
"App\Twig\Components\FeaturedMagazinesComponent"
components/_cached.html.twig 		1 17.90ms

Render calls

user_box App\Twig\Components\UserBoxComponent 12.0 MiB 2.85 ms
Input props 
[
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    +lastActive: DateTime @1719652262 {#269
      date: 2024-06-29 11:11:02.0 +02:00
    }
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    +notifyOnNewPostReply: false
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    +spamProtection: true
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    +magazineOwnershipRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#244 …}
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      date: 2024-10-21 20:38:04.0 +02:00
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    +apDeletedAt: null
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      date: 2023-07-11 01:22:52.0 +02:00
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  "stretchedLink" => false
]
Attributes 
[]
Component 
App\Twig\Components\UserBoxComponent {#2099
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      date: 2024-06-29 11:11:02.0 +02:00
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    +notifyOnNewPostReply: false
    +notifyOnNewPostCommentReply: false
    +addMentionsEntries: false
    +addMentionsPosts: true
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    +isDeleted: false
    +isBot: false
    +spamProtection: true
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    +moderatorTokens: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#248 …}
    +magazineOwnershipRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#244 …}
    +moderatorRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#233 …}
    +entries: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#191 …}
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    +entryCommentVotes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#106 …}
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    +postVotes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#94 …}
    +postComments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1793 …}
    +postCommentVotes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1847 …}
    +subscriptions: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2478 …}
    +subscribedDomains: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1871 …}
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    +blockers: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1827 …}
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    +blockedDomains: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1794 …}
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    +violations: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2401 …}
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    +subscribedCategories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1886 …}
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      date: 2024-10-21 20:38:04.0 +02:00
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      date: 2023-07-11 01:22:52.0 +02:00
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}
user_actions App\Twig\Components\UserActionsComponent 12.0 MiB 1.70 ms
Input props 
[
  "user" => App\Entity\User {#261
    +avatar: null
    +cover: null
    +email: "hi_its_me@lemmy.world"
    +username: "@hi_its_me@lemmy.world"
    +roles: []
    +followersCount: 0
    +homepage: "front"
    +about: null
    +lastActive: DateTime @1719652262 {#269
      date: 2024-06-29 11:11:02.0 +02:00
    }
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    +showSubscribedMagazines: true
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    +moderatorTokens: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#248 …}
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]
Attributes 
[]
Component 
App\Twig\Components\UserActionsComponent {#2181
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Input props 
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        A place to share alternatives to popular online services that can be self-hosted without giving up privacy or locking you into a service you don’t control.\n
        \n
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          - [awesome-sysadmin](https://github.com/awesome-foss/awesome-sysadmin) resources\n
          - [Self-Hosted Podcast from Jupiter Broadcasting](https://selfhosted.show)\n
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        Hoping to mirror the great community of r/espresso.\n
        \n
        We are a kind and accepting community for those who love, want to love, are getting into, or are interested in espresso and espresso accessories.\n
        \n
        Rules\n
        -----\n
        \n
        I didn’t think we needed this section on Lemmy, but…\n
        \n
        - All of the rules of this instance.\n
        - Be nice.\n
        - Be respectful.\n
        - No trolling.\n
        - Basically, don’t be a dick.\n
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        (No exceptions)\n
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        ---\n
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        Resources\n
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        Here is the [main resource](https://www.home-barista.com/resources.html) from the same sub, since it’s amazing.\n
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        ---\n
        \n
        (I tried to grab all of the links from it, please let me know if I missed any)\n
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        <Wiki from r/espresso>\n
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        Links\n
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        [Google Sheets List of Espresso Machines](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vJv2AGJ1ZSm1TSdoixfJADh5z1CAZjzqjmTz5vrKEj4/edit?usp=sharing)\n
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        [Espresso Aficionados - Discord](https://discord.gg/espresso)\n
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        [Espresso Aficionados - Wiki](https://espressoaf.com/) (as of May 2023, this is the most up-to-date resource for machine recommendations and it has a bunch of detailed guides for how to dial in espresso, puck prep & troubleshooting, and more advanced techniques!)\n
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        Espresso 101 Espresso starts with the coffee bean. Fresher is better. As u/Beans_McGhee says, “The beans really need to be roasted within the month you use them for perfect espresso.” Store-bought beans are fine, really—but part of the “fun” of espresso is trying different beans.\n
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        You grind your coffee beans using a grinder. This sub has lots of opinions on grinders.\n
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        The amount of ground coffee you use is called the dose. So when u/SingularLattice says, “Make sure you have the right dose for your basket”, that’s what he means.\n
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        You would use dual-wall if you are using pre-ground coffee. Almost everyone will make (“pull”) double shots—when you get into weights and times, it’s all based on a double. So you should likely use the unpressurized (single wall) double basket.\n
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        Advanced practitioners will dose by weight. Typically, you’d want ~7g for a single shot and ~18g for a double shot. Automatic grinders may dose by time: this will get you “close enough”. Thus, the “single” dose will be around 7g and the “double” will be around 18g. (You can fine-tune these amounts—more on that later.)\n
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        Coffee grounds are light and fluffy, but you want them to be compact for espresso, so you tamp them (with your tamper). Advanced practitioners will calibrate their tamping pressure (e.g., with spring-loaded tampers)—don’t worry about that. Just give it a reasonable amount of force. If you’re putting your whole body weight on your tamper, that’s too much.\n
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        If the pressure is low, you either need more grounds (higher dose)—which you can get by adjusting the grind amount—or a finer grind—which you can get by adjusting grind size. You may also need to tamp harder, but typically this isn’t the problem.\n
        \n
        (If your pressure is too high, the inverse is true… but this doesn’t happen very often.)\n
        \n
        Every bean is different, and so needs different settings to produce a good result—in your case, to keep that pressure dial where you want it. The process of adjusting these different settings is called dialing in.\n
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        Your goal here is a well-extracted shot. That’s all about how it tastes! Espresso should be sweet and balanced. If it’s sour, it’s under-extracted (to which you would grind more and/or finer); if it’s bitter or astringent, it’s over-extracted (to which you would do the opposite).\n
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        Everyone here is adjusting all these variables (bean, pressure, grind size, dose, ratio, extraction time, and more) in search of the perfect shot!\n
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        (Derived from this post by u/basseq.)\n
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        What espresso machine should I buy? Great question, and a very common one. Generally, there are two key inputs:\n
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        How much do you want to “tinker” with your espresso? Do you want to play with different variables, or just wake up to a good coffee?\n
        \n
        How much do you want to spend?\n
        \n
        Espresso can be a very expensive hobby, so the answer to the second question can you get to the best bang for your buck.\n
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        Remember that espresso is not just the machine. The other notable expense is the grinder, which can be as much as—if not more expensive—than the machine itself. There’s also some key accessories (notably a scale) and the cost of good coffee itself ($15+/lb).\n
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        Recommendations by Budget <$500 – Bare Bones If you’re looking to step up from a Nespresso or just drink less Starbucks, start here. There are really two ways to go:\n
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        Manual ($250–$300) – Flair Neo ($125) + 1Zpresso JX ($130).\n
        \n
        Automatic ($450–$500) – Breville Bambino ($350) + Baratza Encore ($170).\n
        \n
        The DeLonghi Dedica ($350) is also a solid choice. For grinders, you can also check out the Breville Dose Control ($150), or upgrade to the 1Zpresso J-Max ($230). The Sette 30 ($300) and Mignon Notte ($320) grinders are solid, but may put you above $500.\n
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        If you’re really looking to do espresso on the cheap, forego the grinder and work with pressurized portafilters on the Neo or Bambino. Many of us started with things like the DeLonghi EC155 ($100), but it’s hard to recommend.\n
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        Keep in mind that the espresso you get in a cafe was ground on a grinder that cost around $2000 and brewed on a machine that cost at least $15,000. You can’t shrink all of that into a sub $300 setup without a huge loss of quality. –u/MyCatsNameIsBernie\n
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        $500–900 – Entry Level If you think you’re “serious” about espresso, this may be a better entry point than above, which you might outgrow sooner than later. There are two common choices here:\n
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        All-In-One – Breville Barista Express ($750) or Pro ($850). While the community sees the built-in grinder as the weak spot (no upgrade path), and long-term reliability can be spotty, it an easy and popular entry point into the prosumer market.\n
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        Separate Setup ($800–900) – Gaggia Classic Pro ($500) + Baratza Sette 270 ($400) – The Gaggia is a classic and time-tested, with lots of options in the used market.\n
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        Something like a Bambino Plus ($500) or Lelit Anna ($570) might also work. There are a lot of good grinders in this range: the DF64 ($400), Eureka Mignon Silenzio ($470), Baratza Vario ($480), and Rancilio Rocky ($430) are all well-regarded.\n
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        If you’re strapped for cash, the r/espresso guidance is to prioritize the grinder. Better to run a cheaper machine (Bambino/Dedica) with a nicer grinder than the other way around.\n
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        Grinders – Eureka Atom 75 ($1,400), Mahlkonig E65S ($2,300), KafaTek Monolith Flat ($2,500), Weber EG-1 ($3,700).
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        Strong, potent coffee news for strong, potent coffee lovers.\n
        ============================================================\n
        \n
        Hoping to mirror the great community of r/espresso.\n
        \n
        We are a kind and accepting community for those who love, want to love, are getting into, or are interested in espresso and espresso accessories.\n
        \n
        Rules\n
        -----\n
        \n
        I didn’t think we needed this section on Lemmy, but…\n
        \n
        - All of the rules of this instance.\n
        - Be nice.\n
        - Be respectful.\n
        - No trolling.\n
        - Basically, don’t be a dick.\n
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        (No exceptions)\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        Resources\n
        ---------\n
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        Here is the [main resource](https://www.home-barista.com/resources.html) from the same sub, since it’s amazing.\n
        \n
        If any of the original mods, or anyone else who loves espresso, would like to take control or help mod, please let me know. I’d be as happy to help as to pass the reigns.\n
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        A gracious community member has added[ some of the resources](https://lemmy.world/post/66717) from the Reddit sub.\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        (I tried to grab all of the links from it, please let me know if I missed any)\n
        \n
        <Wiki from r/espresso>\n
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        Links\n
        \n
        [Google Sheets List of Espresso Machines](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vJv2AGJ1ZSm1TSdoixfJADh5z1CAZjzqjmTz5vrKEj4/edit?usp=sharing)\n
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        [Espresso Aficionados - Discord](https://discord.gg/espresso)\n
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        [Espresso Aficionados - Wiki](https://espressoaf.com/) (as of May 2023, this is the most up-to-date resource for machine recommendations and it has a bunch of detailed guides for how to dial in espresso, puck prep & troubleshooting, and more advanced techniques!)\n
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        Espresso 101 Espresso starts with the coffee bean. Fresher is better. As u/Beans_McGhee says, “The beans really need to be roasted within the month you use them for perfect espresso.” Store-bought beans are fine, really—but part of the “fun” of espresso is trying different beans.\n
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        You grind your coffee beans using a grinder. This sub has lots of opinions on grinders.\n
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        The amount of ground coffee you use is called the dose. So when u/SingularLattice says, “Make sure you have the right dose for your basket”, that’s what he means.\n
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        A basket is the little metal cup that goes in your portafilter—that’s the metal thing with a handle on it. Espresso machines often come with 4 baskets: a single and a double in both unpressurized and pressurized. Doubles are the larger ones; pressurized variants are a different shape and may say “dual wall” on the bottom.\n
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        You would use dual-wall if you are using pre-ground coffee. Almost everyone will make (“pull”) double shots—when you get into weights and times, it’s all based on a double. So you should likely use the unpressurized (single wall) double basket.\n
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        Advanced practitioners will dose by weight. Typically, you’d want ~7g for a single shot and ~18g for a double shot. Automatic grinders may dose by time: this will get you “close enough”. Thus, the “single” dose will be around 7g and the “double” will be around 18g. (You can fine-tune these amounts—more on that later.)\n
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        Coffee grounds are light and fluffy, but you want them to be compact for espresso, so you tamp them (with your tamper). Advanced practitioners will calibrate their tamping pressure (e.g., with spring-loaded tampers)—don’t worry about that. Just give it a reasonable amount of force. If you’re putting your whole body weight on your tamper, that’s too much.\n
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        Many espresso machines will do this for you! When you press the double shot button, it will dispense enough water to make the “right” amount of espresso… presuming you’re using the right basket and the right dose! With such machines (e.g., the Breville Barista Express, or BBE), what you should do is watch the pressure gauge. It should be in the “espresso range”. (Advanced practitioners will measure pressure in bars—you want ~9 bars in an ideal world.)\n
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        If the pressure is low, you either need more grounds (higher dose)—which you can get by adjusting the grind amount—or a finer grind—which you can get by adjusting grind size. You may also need to tamp harder, but typically this isn’t the problem.\n
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        (If your pressure is too high, the inverse is true… but this doesn’t happen very often.)\n
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        Every bean is different, and so needs different settings to produce a good result—in your case, to keep that pressure dial where you want it. The process of adjusting these different settings is called dialing in.\n
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        Your goal here is a well-extracted shot. That’s all about how it tastes! Espresso should be sweet and balanced. If it’s sour, it’s under-extracted (to which you would grind more and/or finer); if it’s bitter or astringent, it’s over-extracted (to which you would do the opposite).\n
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        Everyone here is adjusting all these variables (bean, pressure, grind size, dose, ratio, extraction time, and more) in search of the perfect shot!\n
        \n
        (Derived from this post by u/basseq.)\n
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        What espresso machine should I buy? Great question, and a very common one. Generally, there are two key inputs:\n
        \n
        How much do you want to “tinker” with your espresso? Do you want to play with different variables, or just wake up to a good coffee?\n
        \n
        How much do you want to spend?\n
        \n
        Espresso can be a very expensive hobby, so the answer to the second question can you get to the best bang for your buck.\n
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        Remember that espresso is not just the machine. The other notable expense is the grinder, which can be as much as—if not more expensive—than the machine itself. There’s also some key accessories (notably a scale) and the cost of good coffee itself ($15+/lb).\n
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        Recommendations by Budget <$500 – Bare Bones If you’re looking to step up from a Nespresso or just drink less Starbucks, start here. There are really two ways to go:\n
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        Manual ($250–$300) – Flair Neo ($125) + 1Zpresso JX ($130).\n
        \n
        Automatic ($450–$500) – Breville Bambino ($350) + Baratza Encore ($170).\n
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        The DeLonghi Dedica ($350) is also a solid choice. For grinders, you can also check out the Breville Dose Control ($150), or upgrade to the 1Zpresso J-Max ($230). The Sette 30 ($300) and Mignon Notte ($320) grinders are solid, but may put you above $500.\n
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        If you’re really looking to do espresso on the cheap, forego the grinder and work with pressurized portafilters on the Neo or Bambino. Many of us started with things like the DeLonghi EC155 ($100), but it’s hard to recommend.\n
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        Keep in mind that the espresso you get in a cafe was ground on a grinder that cost around $2000 and brewed on a machine that cost at least $15,000. You can’t shrink all of that into a sub $300 setup without a huge loss of quality. –u/MyCatsNameIsBernie\n
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      Here is the [main resource](https://www.home-barista.com/resources.html) from the same sub, since it’s amazing.\n
      \n
      If any of the original mods, or anyone else who loves espresso, would like to take control or help mod, please let me know. I’d be as happy to help as to pass the reigns.\n
      \n
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      \n
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      \n
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      \n
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      Hoping to mirror the great community of r/espresso.\n
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      \n
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      \n
      Here is the [main resource](https://www.home-barista.com/resources.html) from the same sub, since it’s amazing.\n
      \n
      If any of the original mods, or anyone else who loves espresso, would like to take control or help mod, please let me know. I’d be as happy to help as to pass the reigns.\n
      \n
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      \n
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      (I tried to grab all of the links from it, please let me know if I missed any)\n
      \n
      <Wiki from r/espresso>\n
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      \n
      [Google Sheets List of Espresso Machines](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vJv2AGJ1ZSm1TSdoixfJADh5z1CAZjzqjmTz5vrKEj4/edit?usp=sharing)\n
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      [Espresso Aficionados - Wiki](https://espressoaf.com/) (as of May 2023, this is the most up-to-date resource for machine recommendations and it has a bunch of detailed guides for how to dial in espresso, puck prep & troubleshooting, and more advanced techniques!)\n
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      Espresso 101 Espresso starts with the coffee bean. Fresher is better. As u/Beans_McGhee says, “The beans really need to be roasted within the month you use them for perfect espresso.” Store-bought beans are fine, really—but part of the “fun” of espresso is trying different beans.\n
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      \n
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      \n
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      \n
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      \n
      Advanced practitioners will dose by weight. Typically, you’d want ~7g for a single shot and ~18g for a double shot. Automatic grinders may dose by time: this will get you “close enough”. Thus, the “single” dose will be around 7g and the “double” will be around 18g. (You can fine-tune these amounts—more on that later.)\n
      \n
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      \n
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      \n
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      \n
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      \n
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      \n
      Every bean is different, and so needs different settings to produce a good result—in your case, to keep that pressure dial where you want it. The process of adjusting these different settings is called dialing in.\n
      \n
      Your goal here is a well-extracted shot. That’s all about how it tastes! Espresso should be sweet and balanced. If it’s sour, it’s under-extracted (to which you would grind more and/or finer); if it’s bitter or astringent, it’s over-extracted (to which you would do the opposite).\n
      \n
      Everyone here is adjusting all these variables (bean, pressure, grind size, dose, ratio, extraction time, and more) in search of the perfect shot!\n
      \n
      (Derived from this post by u/basseq.)\n
      \n
      What espresso machine should I buy? Great question, and a very common one. Generally, there are two key inputs:\n
      \n
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      \n
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      \n
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      \n
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      \n
      Recommendations by Budget <$500 – Bare Bones If you’re looking to step up from a Nespresso or just drink less Starbucks, start here. There are really two ways to go:\n
      \n
      Manual ($250–$300) – Flair Neo ($125) + 1Zpresso JX ($130).\n
      \n
      Automatic ($450–$500) – Breville Bambino ($350) + Baratza Encore ($170).\n
      \n
      The DeLonghi Dedica ($350) is also a solid choice. For grinders, you can also check out the Breville Dose Control ($150), or upgrade to the 1Zpresso J-Max ($230). The Sette 30 ($300) and Mignon Notte ($320) grinders are solid, but may put you above $500.\n
      \n
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      Keep in mind that the espresso you get in a cafe was ground on a grinder that cost around $2000 and brewed on a machine that cost at least $15,000. You can’t shrink all of that into a sub $300 setup without a huge loss of quality. –u/MyCatsNameIsBernie\n
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      \n
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      Machines – Profitec Pro ($1,800), ECM Classika ($1,600), Lelit Elizabeth ($1,700), Rocket Appartamento ($1,700). The land of shiny chrome and lots of knobs. The Breville Dual Boiler ($1,600) is in this range too.\n
      \n
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      \n
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        Hoping to mirror the great community of r/espresso.\n
        \n
        We are a kind and accepting community for those who love, want to love, are getting into, or are interested in espresso and espresso accessories.\n
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        \n
        I didn’t think we needed this section on Lemmy, but…\n
        \n
        - All of the rules of this instance.\n
        - Be nice.\n
        - Be respectful.\n
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        - Basically, don’t be a dick.\n
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        ---\n
        \n
        (I tried to grab all of the links from it, please let me know if I missed any)\n
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        <Wiki from r/espresso>\n
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        [Google Sheets List of Espresso Machines](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vJv2AGJ1ZSm1TSdoixfJADh5z1CAZjzqjmTz5vrKEj4/edit?usp=sharing)\n
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        Advanced practitioners will dose by weight. Typically, you’d want ~7g for a single shot and ~18g for a double shot. Automatic grinders may dose by time: this will get you “close enough”. Thus, the “single” dose will be around 7g and the “double” will be around 18g. (You can fine-tune these amounts—more on that later.)\n
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        Coffee grounds are light and fluffy, but you want them to be compact for espresso, so you tamp them (with your tamper). Advanced practitioners will calibrate their tamping pressure (e.g., with spring-loaded tampers)—don’t worry about that. Just give it a reasonable amount of force. If you’re putting your whole body weight on your tamper, that’s too much.\n
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        You will get a feel for the right amount of force. You can also look at the level of the grounds in the basket. Use shape of your tamper or other tool to estimate how much space should be between your (tamped) grounds and the top of the basket.\n
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        Many espresso machines will do this for you! When you press the double shot button, it will dispense enough water to make the “right” amount of espresso… presuming you’re using the right basket and the right dose! With such machines (e.g., the Breville Barista Express, or BBE), what you should do is watch the pressure gauge. It should be in the “espresso range”. (Advanced practitioners will measure pressure in bars—you want ~9 bars in an ideal world.)\n
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        (If your pressure is too high, the inverse is true… but this doesn’t happen very often.)\n
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        Every bean is different, and so needs different settings to produce a good result—in your case, to keep that pressure dial where you want it. The process of adjusting these different settings is called dialing in.\n
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        Your goal here is a well-extracted shot. That’s all about how it tastes! Espresso should be sweet and balanced. If it’s sour, it’s under-extracted (to which you would grind more and/or finer); if it’s bitter or astringent, it’s over-extracted (to which you would do the opposite).\n
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        Everyone here is adjusting all these variables (bean, pressure, grind size, dose, ratio, extraction time, and more) in search of the perfect shot!\n
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        (Derived from this post by u/basseq.)\n
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        What espresso machine should I buy? Great question, and a very common one. Generally, there are two key inputs:\n
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        How much do you want to spend?\n
        \n
        Espresso can be a very expensive hobby, so the answer to the second question can you get to the best bang for your buck.\n
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        Remember that espresso is not just the machine. The other notable expense is the grinder, which can be as much as—if not more expensive—than the machine itself. There’s also some key accessories (notably a scale) and the cost of good coffee itself ($15+/lb).\n
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        Recommendations by Budget <$500 – Bare Bones If you’re looking to step up from a Nespresso or just drink less Starbucks, start here. There are really two ways to go:\n
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        Manual ($250–$300) – Flair Neo ($125) + 1Zpresso JX ($130).\n
        \n
        Automatic ($450–$500) – Breville Bambino ($350) + Baratza Encore ($170).\n
        \n
        The DeLonghi Dedica ($350) is also a solid choice. For grinders, you can also check out the Breville Dose Control ($150), or upgrade to the 1Zpresso J-Max ($230). The Sette 30 ($300) and Mignon Notte ($320) grinders are solid, but may put you above $500.\n
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        If you’re really looking to do espresso on the cheap, forego the grinder and work with pressurized portafilters on the Neo or Bambino. Many of us started with things like the DeLonghi EC155 ($100), but it’s hard to recommend.\n
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        Keep in mind that the espresso you get in a cafe was ground on a grinder that cost around $2000 and brewed on a machine that cost at least $15,000. You can’t shrink all of that into a sub $300 setup without a huge loss of quality. –u/MyCatsNameIsBernie\n
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        All-In-One – Breville Barista Express ($750) or Pro ($850). While the community sees the built-in grinder as the weak spot (no upgrade path), and long-term reliability can be spotty, it an easy and popular entry point into the prosumer market.\n
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        Separate Setup ($800–900) – Gaggia Classic Pro ($500) + Baratza Sette 270 ($400) – The Gaggia is a classic and time-tested, with lots of options in the used market.\n
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        Something like a Bambino Plus ($500) or Lelit Anna ($570) might also work. There are a lot of good grinders in this range: the DF64 ($400), Eureka Mignon Silenzio ($470), Baratza Vario ($480), and Rancilio Rocky ($430) are all well-regarded.\n
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        If you’re strapped for cash, the r/espresso guidance is to prioritize the grinder. Better to run a cheaper machine (Bambino/Dedica) with a nicer grinder than the other way around.\n
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        $900–$1,500 – The Standard The endgame for many people, this range is probably the “sweet spot” for great espresso without going over the deep-end.\n
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        The r/espresso Standard – Rancilio Silvia ($850) + Niche Zero ($680) – The Silvia is a classic, moddable, and can be found used. For this price range, the alternate choice might be something like a Lelit Glenda ($900), or pairing a Gaggia with a nicer grinder. For grinders, ECM and Profitec both have offerings ($550), Baratza Vario W+ ($600), Eureka Mignon Specialita ($700), or any of the ones in the previous category. You can start mixing and matching machines and features and specs.\n
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        $1,500–3,000 – Prosumer We’re getting heavily into the “prosumer” market now, and there are less common machine+grinder pairings, so we’ll start looking at them separately.\n
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        Machines – Profitec Pro ($1,800), ECM Classika ($1,600), Lelit Elizabeth ($1,700), Rocket Appartamento ($1,700). The land of shiny chrome and lots of knobs. The Breville Dual Boiler ($1,600) is in this range too.\n
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        Grinders – Mazzer Mini ($800), Mahlkonig X54 ($750), Eureka Oro ($800).\n
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        $3,000+ – Dream Machines From here, it’s dream machine land and the art of the possible. If you’re asking, “What should I buy,” you probably shouldn’t start here.\n
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        Machines – Lelit Bianca ($2,900), ECM Synchronika ($3,200), Decent DE1 ($3,500), plus some offerings from Isomac, Rocket, Elektra, or Nuova Simonelli. You get into true “endgame” machines like La Marzocco Linea Mini ($5,900) or Slayer Single Group ($10,000).\n
        \n
        Grinders – Eureka Atom 75 ($1,400), Mahlkonig E65S ($2,300), KafaTek Monolith Flat ($2,500), Weber EG-1 ($3,700).
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        ============================================================\n
        \n
        Hoping to mirror the great community of r/espresso.\n
        \n
        We are a kind and accepting community for those who love, want to love, are getting into, or are interested in espresso and espresso accessories.\n
        \n
        Rules\n
        -----\n
        \n
        I didn’t think we needed this section on Lemmy, but…\n
        \n
        - All of the rules of this instance.\n
        - Be nice.\n
        - Be respectful.\n
        - No trolling.\n
        - Basically, don’t be a dick.\n
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        (No exceptions)\n
        \n
        ---\n
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        Resources\n
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        Here is the [main resource](https://www.home-barista.com/resources.html) from the same sub, since it’s amazing.\n
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        A gracious community member has added[ some of the resources](https://lemmy.world/post/66717) from the Reddit sub.\n
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        ---\n
        \n
        (I tried to grab all of the links from it, please let me know if I missed any)\n
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        <Wiki from r/espresso>\n
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        Links\n
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        [Google Sheets List of Espresso Machines](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vJv2AGJ1ZSm1TSdoixfJADh5z1CAZjzqjmTz5vrKEj4/edit?usp=sharing)\n
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        [Espresso Aficionados - Discord](https://discord.gg/espresso)\n
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        [Espresso Aficionados - Wiki](https://espressoaf.com/) (as of May 2023, this is the most up-to-date resource for machine recommendations and it has a bunch of detailed guides for how to dial in espresso, puck prep & troubleshooting, and more advanced techniques!)\n
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        You would use dual-wall if you are using pre-ground coffee. Almost everyone will make (“pull”) double shots—when you get into weights and times, it’s all based on a double. So you should likely use the unpressurized (single wall) double basket.\n
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        Advanced practitioners will dose by weight. Typically, you’d want ~7g for a single shot and ~18g for a double shot. Automatic grinders may dose by time: this will get you “close enough”. Thus, the “single” dose will be around 7g and the “double” will be around 18g. (You can fine-tune these amounts—more on that later.)\n
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        Coffee grounds are light and fluffy, but you want them to be compact for espresso, so you tamp them (with your tamper). Advanced practitioners will calibrate their tamping pressure (e.g., with spring-loaded tampers)—don’t worry about that. Just give it a reasonable amount of force. If you’re putting your whole body weight on your tamper, that’s too much.\n
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        You will get a feel for the right amount of force. You can also look at the level of the grounds in the basket. Use shape of your tamper or other tool to estimate how much space should be between your (tamped) grounds and the top of the basket.\n
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        Many espresso machines will do this for you! When you press the double shot button, it will dispense enough water to make the “right” amount of espresso… presuming you’re using the right basket and the right dose! With such machines (e.g., the Breville Barista Express, or BBE), what you should do is watch the pressure gauge. It should be in the “espresso range”. (Advanced practitioners will measure pressure in bars—you want ~9 bars in an ideal world.)\n
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        (If your pressure is too high, the inverse is true… but this doesn’t happen very often.)\n
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        Every bean is different, and so needs different settings to produce a good result—in your case, to keep that pressure dial where you want it. The process of adjusting these different settings is called dialing in.\n
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        Your goal here is a well-extracted shot. That’s all about how it tastes! Espresso should be sweet and balanced. If it’s sour, it’s under-extracted (to which you would grind more and/or finer); if it’s bitter or astringent, it’s over-extracted (to which you would do the opposite).\n
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        Everyone here is adjusting all these variables (bean, pressure, grind size, dose, ratio, extraction time, and more) in search of the perfect shot!\n
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        (Derived from this post by u/basseq.)\n
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        What espresso machine should I buy? Great question, and a very common one. Generally, there are two key inputs:\n
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        How much do you want to spend?\n
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        Espresso can be a very expensive hobby, so the answer to the second question can you get to the best bang for your buck.\n
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        Recommendations by Budget <$500 – Bare Bones If you’re looking to step up from a Nespresso or just drink less Starbucks, start here. There are really two ways to go:\n
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        Manual ($250–$300) – Flair Neo ($125) + 1Zpresso JX ($130).\n
        \n
        Automatic ($450–$500) – Breville Bambino ($350) + Baratza Encore ($170).\n
        \n
        The DeLonghi Dedica ($350) is also a solid choice. For grinders, you can also check out the Breville Dose Control ($150), or upgrade to the 1Zpresso J-Max ($230). The Sette 30 ($300) and Mignon Notte ($320) grinders are solid, but may put you above $500.\n
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        If you’re really looking to do espresso on the cheap, forego the grinder and work with pressurized portafilters on the Neo or Bambino. Many of us started with things like the DeLonghi EC155 ($100), but it’s hard to recommend.\n
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        Keep in mind that the espresso you get in a cafe was ground on a grinder that cost around $2000 and brewed on a machine that cost at least $15,000. You can’t shrink all of that into a sub $300 setup without a huge loss of quality. –u/MyCatsNameIsBernie\n
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        $500–900 – Entry Level If you think you’re “serious” about espresso, this may be a better entry point than above, which you might outgrow sooner than later. There are two common choices here:\n
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        All-In-One – Breville Barista Express ($750) or Pro ($850). While the community sees the built-in grinder as the weak spot (no upgrade path), and long-term reliability can be spotty, it an easy and popular entry point into the prosumer market.\n
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        Separate Setup ($800–900) – Gaggia Classic Pro ($500) + Baratza Sette 270 ($400) – The Gaggia is a classic and time-tested, with lots of options in the used market.\n
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        Something like a Bambino Plus ($500) or Lelit Anna ($570) might also work. There are a lot of good grinders in this range: the DF64 ($400), Eureka Mignon Silenzio ($470), Baratza Vario ($480), and Rancilio Rocky ($430) are all well-regarded.\n
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        If you’re strapped for cash, the r/espresso guidance is to prioritize the grinder. Better to run a cheaper machine (Bambino/Dedica) with a nicer grinder than the other way around.\n
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        $900–$1,500 – The Standard The endgame for many people, this range is probably the “sweet spot” for great espresso without going over the deep-end.\n
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        The r/espresso Standard – Rancilio Silvia ($850) + Niche Zero ($680) – The Silvia is a classic, moddable, and can be found used. For this price range, the alternate choice might be something like a Lelit Glenda ($900), or pairing a Gaggia with a nicer grinder. For grinders, ECM and Profitec both have offerings ($550), Baratza Vario W+ ($600), Eureka Mignon Specialita ($700), or any of the ones in the previous category. You can start mixing and matching machines and features and specs.\n
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        $1,500–3,000 – Prosumer We’re getting heavily into the “prosumer” market now, and there are less common machine+grinder pairings, so we’ll start looking at them separately.\n
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        Machines – Profitec Pro ($1,800), ECM Classika ($1,600), Lelit Elizabeth ($1,700), Rocket Appartamento ($1,700). The land of shiny chrome and lots of knobs. The Breville Dual Boiler ($1,600) is in this range too.\n
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        Grinders – Mazzer Mini ($800), Mahlkonig X54 ($750), Eureka Oro ($800).\n
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        $3,000+ – Dream Machines From here, it’s dream machine land and the art of the possible. If you’re asking, “What should I buy,” you probably shouldn’t start here.\n
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        Machines – Lelit Bianca ($2,900), ECM Synchronika ($3,200), Decent DE1 ($3,500), plus some offerings from Isomac, Rocket, Elektra, or Nuova Simonelli. You get into true “endgame” machines like La Marzocco Linea Mini ($5,900) or Slayer Single Group ($10,000).\n
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        Grinders – Eureka Atom 75 ($1,400), Mahlkonig E65S ($2,300), KafaTek Monolith Flat ($2,500), Weber EG-1 ($3,700).
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        Strong, potent coffee news for strong, potent coffee lovers.\n
        ============================================================\n
        \n
        Hoping to mirror the great community of r/espresso.\n
        \n
        We are a kind and accepting community for those who love, want to love, are getting into, or are interested in espresso and espresso accessories.\n
        \n
        Rules\n
        -----\n
        \n
        I didn’t think we needed this section on Lemmy, but…\n
        \n
        - All of the rules of this instance.\n
        - Be nice.\n
        - Be respectful.\n
        - No trolling.\n
        - Basically, don’t be a dick.\n
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        (No exceptions)\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        Resources\n
        ---------\n
        \n
        Here is the [main resource](https://www.home-barista.com/resources.html) from the same sub, since it’s amazing.\n
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        A gracious community member has added[ some of the resources](https://lemmy.world/post/66717) from the Reddit sub.\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        (I tried to grab all of the links from it, please let me know if I missed any)\n
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        <Wiki from r/espresso>\n
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        Links\n
        \n
        [Google Sheets List of Espresso Machines](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vJv2AGJ1ZSm1TSdoixfJADh5z1CAZjzqjmTz5vrKEj4/edit?usp=sharing)\n
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        [Espresso Aficionados - Discord](https://discord.gg/espresso)\n
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        [Espresso Aficionados - Wiki](https://espressoaf.com/) (as of May 2023, this is the most up-to-date resource for machine recommendations and it has a bunch of detailed guides for how to dial in espresso, puck prep & troubleshooting, and more advanced techniques!)\n
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        Espresso 101 Espresso starts with the coffee bean. Fresher is better. As u/Beans_McGhee says, “The beans really need to be roasted within the month you use them for perfect espresso.” Store-bought beans are fine, really—but part of the “fun” of espresso is trying different beans.\n
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        You grind your coffee beans using a grinder. This sub has lots of opinions on grinders.\n
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        The amount of ground coffee you use is called the dose. So when u/SingularLattice says, “Make sure you have the right dose for your basket”, that’s what he means.\n
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        You would use dual-wall if you are using pre-ground coffee. Almost everyone will make (“pull”) double shots—when you get into weights and times, it’s all based on a double. So you should likely use the unpressurized (single wall) double basket.\n
        \n
        Advanced practitioners will dose by weight. Typically, you’d want ~7g for a single shot and ~18g for a double shot. Automatic grinders may dose by time: this will get you “close enough”. Thus, the “single” dose will be around 7g and the “double” will be around 18g. (You can fine-tune these amounts—more on that later.)\n
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        Coffee grounds are light and fluffy, but you want them to be compact for espresso, so you tamp them (with your tamper). Advanced practitioners will calibrate their tamping pressure (e.g., with spring-loaded tampers)—don’t worry about that. Just give it a reasonable amount of force. If you’re putting your whole body weight on your tamper, that’s too much.\n
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        You will get a feel for the right amount of force. You can also look at the level of the grounds in the basket. Use shape of your tamper or other tool to estimate how much space should be between your (tamped) grounds and the top of the basket.\n
        \n
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        At the advanced level, preparing espresso is all about ratios, namely weight and time. Generally, you want a 2:1 ratio in about 30 seconds. The 2:1 ratio means the ratio of your dose (i.e., ~18g) to the resulting espresso (i.e., ~36g). The process of brewing espresso is called extraction.\n
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        Many espresso machines will do this for you! When you press the double shot button, it will dispense enough water to make the “right” amount of espresso… presuming you’re using the right basket and the right dose! With such machines (e.g., the Breville Barista Express, or BBE), what you should do is watch the pressure gauge. It should be in the “espresso range”. (Advanced practitioners will measure pressure in bars—you want ~9 bars in an ideal world.)\n
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        If the pressure is low, you either need more grounds (higher dose)—which you can get by adjusting the grind amount—or a finer grind—which you can get by adjusting grind size. You may also need to tamp harder, but typically this isn’t the problem.\n
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        (If your pressure is too high, the inverse is true… but this doesn’t happen very often.)\n
        \n
        Every bean is different, and so needs different settings to produce a good result—in your case, to keep that pressure dial where you want it. The process of adjusting these different settings is called dialing in.\n
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        Your goal here is a well-extracted shot. That’s all about how it tastes! Espresso should be sweet and balanced. If it’s sour, it’s under-extracted (to which you would grind more and/or finer); if it’s bitter or astringent, it’s over-extracted (to which you would do the opposite).\n
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        Everyone here is adjusting all these variables (bean, pressure, grind size, dose, ratio, extraction time, and more) in search of the perfect shot!\n
        \n
        (Derived from this post by u/basseq.)\n
        \n
        What espresso machine should I buy? Great question, and a very common one. Generally, there are two key inputs:\n
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        How much do you want to “tinker” with your espresso? Do you want to play with different variables, or just wake up to a good coffee?\n
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        How much do you want to spend?\n
        \n
        Espresso can be a very expensive hobby, so the answer to the second question can you get to the best bang for your buck.\n
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        Remember that espresso is not just the machine. The other notable expense is the grinder, which can be as much as—if not more expensive—than the machine itself. There’s also some key accessories (notably a scale) and the cost of good coffee itself ($15+/lb).\n
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        Recommendations by Budget <$500 – Bare Bones If you’re looking to step up from a Nespresso or just drink less Starbucks, start here. There are really two ways to go:\n
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        Manual ($250–$300) – Flair Neo ($125) + 1Zpresso JX ($130).\n
        \n
        Automatic ($450–$500) – Breville Bambino ($350) + Baratza Encore ($170).\n
        \n
        The DeLonghi Dedica ($350) is also a solid choice. For grinders, you can also check out the Breville Dose Control ($150), or upgrade to the 1Zpresso J-Max ($230). The Sette 30 ($300) and Mignon Notte ($320) grinders are solid, but may put you above $500.\n
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        If you’re really looking to do espresso on the cheap, forego the grinder and work with pressurized portafilters on the Neo or Bambino. Many of us started with things like the DeLonghi EC155 ($100), but it’s hard to recommend.\n
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        Keep in mind that the espresso you get in a cafe was ground on a grinder that cost around $2000 and brewed on a machine that cost at least $15,000. You can’t shrink all of that into a sub $300 setup without a huge loss of quality. –u/MyCatsNameIsBernie\n
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        $500–900 – Entry Level If you think you’re “serious” about espresso, this may be a better entry point than above, which you might outgrow sooner than later. There are two common choices here:\n
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        All-In-One – Breville Barista Express ($750) or Pro ($850). While the community sees the built-in grinder as the weak spot (no upgrade path), and long-term reliability can be spotty, it an easy and popular entry point into the prosumer market.\n
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        Separate Setup ($800–900) – Gaggia Classic Pro ($500) + Baratza Sette 270 ($400) – The Gaggia is a classic and time-tested, with lots of options in the used market.\n
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        Something like a Bambino Plus ($500) or Lelit Anna ($570) might also work. There are a lot of good grinders in this range: the DF64 ($400), Eureka Mignon Silenzio ($470), Baratza Vario ($480), and Rancilio Rocky ($430) are all well-regarded.\n
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        If you’re strapped for cash, the r/espresso guidance is to prioritize the grinder. Better to run a cheaper machine (Bambino/Dedica) with a nicer grinder than the other way around.\n
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        $900–$1,500 – The Standard The endgame for many people, this range is probably the “sweet spot” for great espresso without going over the deep-end.\n
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        The r/espresso Standard – Rancilio Silvia ($850) + Niche Zero ($680) – The Silvia is a classic, moddable, and can be found used. For this price range, the alternate choice might be something like a Lelit Glenda ($900), or pairing a Gaggia with a nicer grinder. For grinders, ECM and Profitec both have offerings ($550), Baratza Vario W+ ($600), Eureka Mignon Specialita ($700), or any of the ones in the previous category. You can start mixing and matching machines and features and specs.\n
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        $1,500–3,000 – Prosumer We’re getting heavily into the “prosumer” market now, and there are less common machine+grinder pairings, so we’ll start looking at them separately.\n
        \n
        Machines – Profitec Pro ($1,800), ECM Classika ($1,600), Lelit Elizabeth ($1,700), Rocket Appartamento ($1,700). The land of shiny chrome and lots of knobs. The Breville Dual Boiler ($1,600) is in this range too.\n
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        Grinders – Mazzer Mini ($800), Mahlkonig X54 ($750), Eureka Oro ($800).\n
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        $3,000+ – Dream Machines From here, it’s dream machine land and the art of the possible. If you’re asking, “What should I buy,” you probably shouldn’t start here.\n
        \n
        Machines – Lelit Bianca ($2,900), ECM Synchronika ($3,200), Decent DE1 ($3,500), plus some offerings from Isomac, Rocket, Elektra, or Nuova Simonelli. You get into true “endgame” machines like La Marzocco Linea Mini ($5,900) or Slayer Single Group ($10,000).\n
        \n
        Grinders – Eureka Atom 75 ($1,400), Mahlkonig E65S ($2,300), KafaTek Monolith Flat ($2,500), Weber EG-1 ($3,700).
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        Hoping to mirror the great community of r/espresso.\n
        \n
        We are a kind and accepting community for those who love, want to love, are getting into, or are interested in espresso and espresso accessories.\n
        \n
        Rules\n
        -----\n
        \n
        I didn’t think we needed this section on Lemmy, but…\n
        \n
        - All of the rules of this instance.\n
        - Be nice.\n
        - Be respectful.\n
        - No trolling.\n
        - Basically, don’t be a dick.\n
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        (No exceptions)\n
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        Here is the [main resource](https://www.home-barista.com/resources.html) from the same sub, since it’s amazing.\n
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        A gracious community member has added[ some of the resources](https://lemmy.world/post/66717) from the Reddit sub.\n
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        ---\n
        \n
        (I tried to grab all of the links from it, please let me know if I missed any)\n
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        <Wiki from r/espresso>\n
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        Links\n
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        [Google Sheets List of Espresso Machines](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vJv2AGJ1ZSm1TSdoixfJADh5z1CAZjzqjmTz5vrKEj4/edit?usp=sharing)\n
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        [Espresso Aficionados - Discord](https://discord.gg/espresso)\n
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        [Espresso Aficionados - Wiki](https://espressoaf.com/) (as of May 2023, this is the most up-to-date resource for machine recommendations and it has a bunch of detailed guides for how to dial in espresso, puck prep & troubleshooting, and more advanced techniques!)\n
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        Espresso 101 Espresso starts with the coffee bean. Fresher is better. As u/Beans_McGhee says, “The beans really need to be roasted within the month you use them for perfect espresso.” Store-bought beans are fine, really—but part of the “fun” of espresso is trying different beans.\n
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        \n
        Advanced practitioners will dose by weight. Typically, you’d want ~7g for a single shot and ~18g for a double shot. Automatic grinders may dose by time: this will get you “close enough”. Thus, the “single” dose will be around 7g and the “double” will be around 18g. (You can fine-tune these amounts—more on that later.)\n
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        Coffee grounds are light and fluffy, but you want them to be compact for espresso, so you tamp them (with your tamper). Advanced practitioners will calibrate their tamping pressure (e.g., with spring-loaded tampers)—don’t worry about that. Just give it a reasonable amount of force. If you’re putting your whole body weight on your tamper, that’s too much.\n
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        Many espresso machines will do this for you! When you press the double shot button, it will dispense enough water to make the “right” amount of espresso… presuming you’re using the right basket and the right dose! With such machines (e.g., the Breville Barista Express, or BBE), what you should do is watch the pressure gauge. It should be in the “espresso range”. (Advanced practitioners will measure pressure in bars—you want ~9 bars in an ideal world.)\n
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        If the pressure is low, you either need more grounds (higher dose)—which you can get by adjusting the grind amount—or a finer grind—which you can get by adjusting grind size. You may also need to tamp harder, but typically this isn’t the problem.\n
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        (If your pressure is too high, the inverse is true… but this doesn’t happen very often.)\n
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        Every bean is different, and so needs different settings to produce a good result—in your case, to keep that pressure dial where you want it. The process of adjusting these different settings is called dialing in.\n
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        Your goal here is a well-extracted shot. That’s all about how it tastes! Espresso should be sweet and balanced. If it’s sour, it’s under-extracted (to which you would grind more and/or finer); if it’s bitter or astringent, it’s over-extracted (to which you would do the opposite).\n
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        Everyone here is adjusting all these variables (bean, pressure, grind size, dose, ratio, extraction time, and more) in search of the perfect shot!\n
        \n
        (Derived from this post by u/basseq.)\n
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        What espresso machine should I buy? Great question, and a very common one. Generally, there are two key inputs:\n
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        How much do you want to “tinker” with your espresso? Do you want to play with different variables, or just wake up to a good coffee?\n
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        How much do you want to spend?\n
        \n
        Espresso can be a very expensive hobby, so the answer to the second question can you get to the best bang for your buck.\n
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        Remember that espresso is not just the machine. The other notable expense is the grinder, which can be as much as—if not more expensive—than the machine itself. There’s also some key accessories (notably a scale) and the cost of good coffee itself ($15+/lb).\n
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        Recommendations by Budget <$500 – Bare Bones If you’re looking to step up from a Nespresso or just drink less Starbucks, start here. There are really two ways to go:\n
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        Manual ($250–$300) – Flair Neo ($125) + 1Zpresso JX ($130).\n
        \n
        Automatic ($450–$500) – Breville Bambino ($350) + Baratza Encore ($170).\n
        \n
        The DeLonghi Dedica ($350) is also a solid choice. For grinders, you can also check out the Breville Dose Control ($150), or upgrade to the 1Zpresso J-Max ($230). The Sette 30 ($300) and Mignon Notte ($320) grinders are solid, but may put you above $500.\n
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        If you’re really looking to do espresso on the cheap, forego the grinder and work with pressurized portafilters on the Neo or Bambino. Many of us started with things like the DeLonghi EC155 ($100), but it’s hard to recommend.\n
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        Keep in mind that the espresso you get in a cafe was ground on a grinder that cost around $2000 and brewed on a machine that cost at least $15,000. You can’t shrink all of that into a sub $300 setup without a huge loss of quality. –u/MyCatsNameIsBernie\n
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        $500–900 – Entry Level If you think you’re “serious” about espresso, this may be a better entry point than above, which you might outgrow sooner than later. There are two common choices here:\n
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        All-In-One – Breville Barista Express ($750) or Pro ($850). While the community sees the built-in grinder as the weak spot (no upgrade path), and long-term reliability can be spotty, it an easy and popular entry point into the prosumer market.\n
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        Separate Setup ($800–900) – Gaggia Classic Pro ($500) + Baratza Sette 270 ($400) – The Gaggia is a classic and time-tested, with lots of options in the used market.\n
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        Something like a Bambino Plus ($500) or Lelit Anna ($570) might also work. There are a lot of good grinders in this range: the DF64 ($400), Eureka Mignon Silenzio ($470), Baratza Vario ($480), and Rancilio Rocky ($430) are all well-regarded.\n
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        If you’re strapped for cash, the r/espresso guidance is to prioritize the grinder. Better to run a cheaper machine (Bambino/Dedica) with a nicer grinder than the other way around.\n
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        $900–$1,500 – The Standard The endgame for many people, this range is probably the “sweet spot” for great espresso without going over the deep-end.\n
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        The r/espresso Standard – Rancilio Silvia ($850) + Niche Zero ($680) – The Silvia is a classic, moddable, and can be found used. For this price range, the alternate choice might be something like a Lelit Glenda ($900), or pairing a Gaggia with a nicer grinder. For grinders, ECM and Profitec both have offerings ($550), Baratza Vario W+ ($600), Eureka Mignon Specialita ($700), or any of the ones in the previous category. You can start mixing and matching machines and features and specs.\n
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        $1,500–3,000 – Prosumer We’re getting heavily into the “prosumer” market now, and there are less common machine+grinder pairings, so we’ll start looking at them separately.\n
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        Machines – Profitec Pro ($1,800), ECM Classika ($1,600), Lelit Elizabeth ($1,700), Rocket Appartamento ($1,700). The land of shiny chrome and lots of knobs. The Breville Dual Boiler ($1,600) is in this range too.\n
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        Grinders – Mazzer Mini ($800), Mahlkonig X54 ($750), Eureka Oro ($800).\n
        \n
        $3,000+ – Dream Machines From here, it’s dream machine land and the art of the possible. If you’re asking, “What should I buy,” you probably shouldn’t start here.\n
        \n
        Machines – Lelit Bianca ($2,900), ECM Synchronika ($3,200), Decent DE1 ($3,500), plus some offerings from Isomac, Rocket, Elektra, or Nuova Simonelli. You get into true “endgame” machines like La Marzocco Linea Mini ($5,900) or Slayer Single Group ($10,000).\n
        \n
        Grinders – Eureka Atom 75 ($1,400), Mahlkonig E65S ($2,300), KafaTek Monolith Flat ($2,500), Weber EG-1 ($3,700).
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          Strong, potent coffee news for strong, potent coffee lovers.\n
          ============================================================\n
          \n
          Hoping to mirror the great community of r/espresso.\n
          \n
          We are a kind and accepting community for those who love, want to love, are getting into, or are interested in espresso and espresso accessories.\n
          \n
          Rules\n
          -----\n
          \n
          I didn’t think we needed this section on Lemmy, but…\n
          \n
          - All of the rules of this instance.\n
          - Be nice.\n
          - Be respectful.\n
          - No trolling.\n
          - Basically, don’t be a dick.\n
          \n
          (No exceptions)\n
          \n
          ---\n
          \n
          Resources\n
          ---------\n
          \n
          Here is the [main resource](https://www.home-barista.com/resources.html) from the same sub, since it’s amazing.\n
          \n
          If any of the original mods, or anyone else who loves espresso, would like to take control or help mod, please let me know. I’d be as happy to help as to pass the reigns.\n
          \n
          A gracious community member has added[ some of the resources](https://lemmy.world/post/66717) from the Reddit sub.\n
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          ---\n
          \n
          (I tried to grab all of the links from it, please let me know if I missed any)\n
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          <Wiki from r/espresso>\n
          \n
          Links\n
          \n
          [Google Sheets List of Espresso Machines](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vJv2AGJ1ZSm1TSdoixfJADh5z1CAZjzqjmTz5vrKEj4/edit?usp=sharing)\n
          \n
          [Espresso Aficionados - Discord](https://discord.gg/espresso)\n
          \n
          [Espresso Aficionados - Wiki](https://espressoaf.com/) (as of May 2023, this is the most up-to-date resource for machine recommendations and it has a bunch of detailed guides for how to dial in espresso, puck prep & troubleshooting, and more advanced techniques!)\n
          \n
          Espresso 101 Espresso starts with the coffee bean. Fresher is better. As u/Beans_McGhee says, “The beans really need to be roasted within the month you use them for perfect espresso.” Store-bought beans are fine, really—but part of the “fun” of espresso is trying different beans.\n
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          You grind your coffee beans using a grinder. This sub has lots of opinions on grinders.\n
          \n
          The amount of ground coffee you use is called the dose. So when u/SingularLattice says, “Make sure you have the right dose for your basket”, that’s what he means.\n
          \n
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          You would use dual-wall if you are using pre-ground coffee. Almost everyone will make (“pull”) double shots—when you get into weights and times, it’s all based on a double. So you should likely use the unpressurized (single wall) double basket.\n
          \n
          Advanced practitioners will dose by weight. Typically, you’d want ~7g for a single shot and ~18g for a double shot. Automatic grinders may dose by time: this will get you “close enough”. Thus, the “single” dose will be around 7g and the “double” will be around 18g. (You can fine-tune these amounts—more on that later.)\n
          \n
          Coffee grounds are light and fluffy, but you want them to be compact for espresso, so you tamp them (with your tamper). Advanced practitioners will calibrate their tamping pressure (e.g., with spring-loaded tampers)—don’t worry about that. Just give it a reasonable amount of force. If you’re putting your whole body weight on your tamper, that’s too much.\n
          \n
          You will get a feel for the right amount of force. You can also look at the level of the grounds in the basket. Use shape of your tamper or other tool to estimate how much space should be between your (tamped) grounds and the top of the basket.\n
          \n
          As u/SingularLattice says, “You need to tamp FLAT, not hard. So long as it’s firm, you’re good.”\n
          \n
          At the advanced level, preparing espresso is all about ratios, namely weight and time. Generally, you want a 2:1 ratio in about 30 seconds. The 2:1 ratio means the ratio of your dose (i.e., ~18g) to the resulting espresso (i.e., ~36g). The process of brewing espresso is called extraction.\n
          \n
          Many espresso machines will do this for you! When you press the double shot button, it will dispense enough water to make the “right” amount of espresso… presuming you’re using the right basket and the right dose! With such machines (e.g., the Breville Barista Express, or BBE), what you should do is watch the pressure gauge. It should be in the “espresso range”. (Advanced practitioners will measure pressure in bars—you want ~9 bars in an ideal world.)\n
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          If the pressure is low, you either need more grounds (higher dose)—which you can get by adjusting the grind amount—or a finer grind—which you can get by adjusting grind size. You may also need to tamp harder, but typically this isn’t the problem.\n
          \n
          (If your pressure is too high, the inverse is true… but this doesn’t happen very often.)\n
          \n
          Every bean is different, and so needs different settings to produce a good result—in your case, to keep that pressure dial where you want it. The process of adjusting these different settings is called dialing in.\n
          \n
          Your goal here is a well-extracted shot. That’s all about how it tastes! Espresso should be sweet and balanced. If it’s sour, it’s under-extracted (to which you would grind more and/or finer); if it’s bitter or astringent, it’s over-extracted (to which you would do the opposite).\n
          \n
          Everyone here is adjusting all these variables (bean, pressure, grind size, dose, ratio, extraction time, and more) in search of the perfect shot!\n
          \n
          (Derived from this post by u/basseq.)\n
          \n
          What espresso machine should I buy? Great question, and a very common one. Generally, there are two key inputs:\n
          \n
          How much do you want to “tinker” with your espresso? Do you want to play with different variables, or just wake up to a good coffee?\n
          \n
          How much do you want to spend?\n
          \n
          Espresso can be a very expensive hobby, so the answer to the second question can you get to the best bang for your buck.\n
          \n
          Remember that espresso is not just the machine. The other notable expense is the grinder, which can be as much as—if not more expensive—than the machine itself. There’s also some key accessories (notably a scale) and the cost of good coffee itself ($15+/lb).\n
          \n
          Recommendations by Budget <$500 – Bare Bones If you’re looking to step up from a Nespresso or just drink less Starbucks, start here. There are really two ways to go:\n
          \n
          Manual ($250–$300) – Flair Neo ($125) + 1Zpresso JX ($130).\n
          \n
          Automatic ($450–$500) – Breville Bambino ($350) + Baratza Encore ($170).\n
          \n
          The DeLonghi Dedica ($350) is also a solid choice. For grinders, you can also check out the Breville Dose Control ($150), or upgrade to the 1Zpresso J-Max ($230). The Sette 30 ($300) and Mignon Notte ($320) grinders are solid, but may put you above $500.\n
          \n
          If you’re really looking to do espresso on the cheap, forego the grinder and work with pressurized portafilters on the Neo or Bambino. Many of us started with things like the DeLonghi EC155 ($100), but it’s hard to recommend.\n
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          Keep in mind that the espresso you get in a cafe was ground on a grinder that cost around $2000 and brewed on a machine that cost at least $15,000. You can’t shrink all of that into a sub $300 setup without a huge loss of quality. –u/MyCatsNameIsBernie\n
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          $500–900 – Entry Level If you think you’re “serious” about espresso, this may be a better entry point than above, which you might outgrow sooner than later. There are two common choices here:\n
          \n
          All-In-One – Breville Barista Express ($750) or Pro ($850). While the community sees the built-in grinder as the weak spot (no upgrade path), and long-term reliability can be spotty, it an easy and popular entry point into the prosumer market.\n
          \n
          Separate Setup ($800–900) – Gaggia Classic Pro ($500) + Baratza Sette 270 ($400) – The Gaggia is a classic and time-tested, with lots of options in the used market.\n
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          Something like a Bambino Plus ($500) or Lelit Anna ($570) might also work. There are a lot of good grinders in this range: the DF64 ($400), Eureka Mignon Silenzio ($470), Baratza Vario ($480), and Rancilio Rocky ($430) are all well-regarded.\n
          \n
          If you’re strapped for cash, the r/espresso guidance is to prioritize the grinder. Better to run a cheaper machine (Bambino/Dedica) with a nicer grinder than the other way around.\n
          \n
          $900–$1,500 – The Standard The endgame for many people, this range is probably the “sweet spot” for great espresso without going over the deep-end.\n
          \n
          The r/espresso Standard – Rancilio Silvia ($850) + Niche Zero ($680) – The Silvia is a classic, moddable, and can be found used. For this price range, the alternate choice might be something like a Lelit Glenda ($900), or pairing a Gaggia with a nicer grinder. For grinders, ECM and Profitec both have offerings ($550), Baratza Vario W+ ($600), Eureka Mignon Specialita ($700), or any of the ones in the previous category. You can start mixing and matching machines and features and specs.\n
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          $1,500–3,000 – Prosumer We’re getting heavily into the “prosumer” market now, and there are less common machine+grinder pairings, so we’ll start looking at them separately.\n
          \n
          Machines – Profitec Pro ($1,800), ECM Classika ($1,600), Lelit Elizabeth ($1,700), Rocket Appartamento ($1,700). The land of shiny chrome and lots of knobs. The Breville Dual Boiler ($1,600) is in this range too.\n
          \n
          Grinders – Mazzer Mini ($800), Mahlkonig X54 ($750), Eureka Oro ($800).\n
          \n
          $3,000+ – Dream Machines From here, it’s dream machine land and the art of the possible. If you’re asking, “What should I buy,” you probably shouldn’t start here.\n
          \n
          Machines – Lelit Bianca ($2,900), ECM Synchronika ($3,200), Decent DE1 ($3,500), plus some offerings from Isomac, Rocket, Elektra, or Nuova Simonelli. You get into true “endgame” machines like La Marzocco Linea Mini ($5,900) or Slayer Single Group ($10,000).\n
          \n
          Grinders – Eureka Atom 75 ($1,400), Mahlkonig E65S ($2,300), KafaTek Monolith Flat ($2,500), Weber EG-1 ($3,700).
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          Strong, potent coffee news for strong, potent coffee lovers.\n
          ============================================================\n
          \n
          Hoping to mirror the great community of r/espresso.\n
          \n
          We are a kind and accepting community for those who love, want to love, are getting into, or are interested in espresso and espresso accessories.\n
          \n
          Rules\n
          -----\n
          \n
          I didn’t think we needed this section on Lemmy, but…\n
          \n
          - All of the rules of this instance.\n
          - Be nice.\n
          - Be respectful.\n
          - No trolling.\n
          - Basically, don’t be a dick.\n
          \n
          (No exceptions)\n
          \n
          ---\n
          \n
          Resources\n
          ---------\n
          \n
          Here is the [main resource](https://www.home-barista.com/resources.html) from the same sub, since it’s amazing.\n
          \n
          If any of the original mods, or anyone else who loves espresso, would like to take control or help mod, please let me know. I’d be as happy to help as to pass the reigns.\n
          \n
          A gracious community member has added[ some of the resources](https://lemmy.world/post/66717) from the Reddit sub.\n
          \n
          ---\n
          \n
          (I tried to grab all of the links from it, please let me know if I missed any)\n
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          <Wiki from r/espresso>\n
          \n
          Links\n
          \n
          [Google Sheets List of Espresso Machines](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vJv2AGJ1ZSm1TSdoixfJADh5z1CAZjzqjmTz5vrKEj4/edit?usp=sharing)\n
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          [Espresso Aficionados - Discord](https://discord.gg/espresso)\n
          \n
          [Espresso Aficionados - Wiki](https://espressoaf.com/) (as of May 2023, this is the most up-to-date resource for machine recommendations and it has a bunch of detailed guides for how to dial in espresso, puck prep & troubleshooting, and more advanced techniques!)\n
          \n
          Espresso 101 Espresso starts with the coffee bean. Fresher is better. As u/Beans_McGhee says, “The beans really need to be roasted within the month you use them for perfect espresso.” Store-bought beans are fine, really—but part of the “fun” of espresso is trying different beans.\n
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          You grind your coffee beans using a grinder. This sub has lots of opinions on grinders.\n
          \n
          The amount of ground coffee you use is called the dose. So when u/SingularLattice says, “Make sure you have the right dose for your basket”, that’s what he means.\n
          \n
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          You would use dual-wall if you are using pre-ground coffee. Almost everyone will make (“pull”) double shots—when you get into weights and times, it’s all based on a double. So you should likely use the unpressurized (single wall) double basket.\n
          \n
          Advanced practitioners will dose by weight. Typically, you’d want ~7g for a single shot and ~18g for a double shot. Automatic grinders may dose by time: this will get you “close enough”. Thus, the “single” dose will be around 7g and the “double” will be around 18g. (You can fine-tune these amounts—more on that later.)\n
          \n
          Coffee grounds are light and fluffy, but you want them to be compact for espresso, so you tamp them (with your tamper). Advanced practitioners will calibrate their tamping pressure (e.g., with spring-loaded tampers)—don’t worry about that. Just give it a reasonable amount of force. If you’re putting your whole body weight on your tamper, that’s too much.\n
          \n
          You will get a feel for the right amount of force. You can also look at the level of the grounds in the basket. Use shape of your tamper or other tool to estimate how much space should be between your (tamped) grounds and the top of the basket.\n
          \n
          As u/SingularLattice says, “You need to tamp FLAT, not hard. So long as it’s firm, you’re good.”\n
          \n
          At the advanced level, preparing espresso is all about ratios, namely weight and time. Generally, you want a 2:1 ratio in about 30 seconds. The 2:1 ratio means the ratio of your dose (i.e., ~18g) to the resulting espresso (i.e., ~36g). The process of brewing espresso is called extraction.\n
          \n
          Many espresso machines will do this for you! When you press the double shot button, it will dispense enough water to make the “right” amount of espresso… presuming you’re using the right basket and the right dose! With such machines (e.g., the Breville Barista Express, or BBE), what you should do is watch the pressure gauge. It should be in the “espresso range”. (Advanced practitioners will measure pressure in bars—you want ~9 bars in an ideal world.)\n
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          If the pressure is low, you either need more grounds (higher dose)—which you can get by adjusting the grind amount—or a finer grind—which you can get by adjusting grind size. You may also need to tamp harder, but typically this isn’t the problem.\n
          \n
          (If your pressure is too high, the inverse is true… but this doesn’t happen very often.)\n
          \n
          Every bean is different, and so needs different settings to produce a good result—in your case, to keep that pressure dial where you want it. The process of adjusting these different settings is called dialing in.\n
          \n
          Your goal here is a well-extracted shot. That’s all about how it tastes! Espresso should be sweet and balanced. If it’s sour, it’s under-extracted (to which you would grind more and/or finer); if it’s bitter or astringent, it’s over-extracted (to which you would do the opposite).\n
          \n
          Everyone here is adjusting all these variables (bean, pressure, grind size, dose, ratio, extraction time, and more) in search of the perfect shot!\n
          \n
          (Derived from this post by u/basseq.)\n
          \n
          What espresso machine should I buy? Great question, and a very common one. Generally, there are two key inputs:\n
          \n
          How much do you want to “tinker” with your espresso? Do you want to play with different variables, or just wake up to a good coffee?\n
          \n
          How much do you want to spend?\n
          \n
          Espresso can be a very expensive hobby, so the answer to the second question can you get to the best bang for your buck.\n
          \n
          Remember that espresso is not just the machine. The other notable expense is the grinder, which can be as much as—if not more expensive—than the machine itself. There’s also some key accessories (notably a scale) and the cost of good coffee itself ($15+/lb).\n
          \n
          Recommendations by Budget <$500 – Bare Bones If you’re looking to step up from a Nespresso or just drink less Starbucks, start here. There are really two ways to go:\n
          \n
          Manual ($250–$300) – Flair Neo ($125) + 1Zpresso JX ($130).\n
          \n
          Automatic ($450–$500) – Breville Bambino ($350) + Baratza Encore ($170).\n
          \n
          The DeLonghi Dedica ($350) is also a solid choice. For grinders, you can also check out the Breville Dose Control ($150), or upgrade to the 1Zpresso J-Max ($230). The Sette 30 ($300) and Mignon Notte ($320) grinders are solid, but may put you above $500.\n
          \n
          If you’re really looking to do espresso on the cheap, forego the grinder and work with pressurized portafilters on the Neo or Bambino. Many of us started with things like the DeLonghi EC155 ($100), but it’s hard to recommend.\n
          \n
          Keep in mind that the espresso you get in a cafe was ground on a grinder that cost around $2000 and brewed on a machine that cost at least $15,000. You can’t shrink all of that into a sub $300 setup without a huge loss of quality. –u/MyCatsNameIsBernie\n
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          $500–900 – Entry Level If you think you’re “serious” about espresso, this may be a better entry point than above, which you might outgrow sooner than later. There are two common choices here:\n
          \n
          All-In-One – Breville Barista Express ($750) or Pro ($850). While the community sees the built-in grinder as the weak spot (no upgrade path), and long-term reliability can be spotty, it an easy and popular entry point into the prosumer market.\n
          \n
          Separate Setup ($800–900) – Gaggia Classic Pro ($500) + Baratza Sette 270 ($400) – The Gaggia is a classic and time-tested, with lots of options in the used market.\n
          \n
          Something like a Bambino Plus ($500) or Lelit Anna ($570) might also work. There are a lot of good grinders in this range: the DF64 ($400), Eureka Mignon Silenzio ($470), Baratza Vario ($480), and Rancilio Rocky ($430) are all well-regarded.\n
          \n
          If you’re strapped for cash, the r/espresso guidance is to prioritize the grinder. Better to run a cheaper machine (Bambino/Dedica) with a nicer grinder than the other way around.\n
          \n
          $900–$1,500 – The Standard The endgame for many people, this range is probably the “sweet spot” for great espresso without going over the deep-end.\n
          \n
          The r/espresso Standard – Rancilio Silvia ($850) + Niche Zero ($680) – The Silvia is a classic, moddable, and can be found used. For this price range, the alternate choice might be something like a Lelit Glenda ($900), or pairing a Gaggia with a nicer grinder. For grinders, ECM and Profitec both have offerings ($550), Baratza Vario W+ ($600), Eureka Mignon Specialita ($700), or any of the ones in the previous category. You can start mixing and matching machines and features and specs.\n
          \n
          $1,500–3,000 – Prosumer We’re getting heavily into the “prosumer” market now, and there are less common machine+grinder pairings, so we’ll start looking at them separately.\n
          \n
          Machines – Profitec Pro ($1,800), ECM Classika ($1,600), Lelit Elizabeth ($1,700), Rocket Appartamento ($1,700). The land of shiny chrome and lots of knobs. The Breville Dual Boiler ($1,600) is in this range too.\n
          \n
          Grinders – Mazzer Mini ($800), Mahlkonig X54 ($750), Eureka Oro ($800).\n
          \n
          $3,000+ – Dream Machines From here, it’s dream machine land and the art of the possible. If you’re asking, “What should I buy,” you probably shouldn’t start here.\n
          \n
          Machines – Lelit Bianca ($2,900), ECM Synchronika ($3,200), Decent DE1 ($3,500), plus some offerings from Isomac, Rocket, Elektra, or Nuova Simonelli. You get into true “endgame” machines like La Marzocco Linea Mini ($5,900) or Slayer Single Group ($10,000).\n
          \n
          Grinders – Eureka Atom 75 ($1,400), Mahlkonig E65S ($2,300), KafaTek Monolith Flat ($2,500), Weber EG-1 ($3,700).
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          Strong, potent coffee news for strong, potent coffee lovers.\n
          ============================================================\n
          \n
          Hoping to mirror the great community of r/espresso.\n
          \n
          We are a kind and accepting community for those who love, want to love, are getting into, or are interested in espresso and espresso accessories.\n
          \n
          Rules\n
          -----\n
          \n
          I didn’t think we needed this section on Lemmy, but…\n
          \n
          - All of the rules of this instance.\n
          - Be nice.\n
          - Be respectful.\n
          - No trolling.\n
          - Basically, don’t be a dick.\n
          \n
          (No exceptions)\n
          \n
          ---\n
          \n
          Resources\n
          ---------\n
          \n
          Here is the [main resource](https://www.home-barista.com/resources.html) from the same sub, since it’s amazing.\n
          \n
          If any of the original mods, or anyone else who loves espresso, would like to take control or help mod, please let me know. I’d be as happy to help as to pass the reigns.\n
          \n
          A gracious community member has added[ some of the resources](https://lemmy.world/post/66717) from the Reddit sub.\n
          \n
          ---\n
          \n
          (I tried to grab all of the links from it, please let me know if I missed any)\n
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          <Wiki from r/espresso>\n
          \n
          Links\n
          \n
          [Google Sheets List of Espresso Machines](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vJv2AGJ1ZSm1TSdoixfJADh5z1CAZjzqjmTz5vrKEj4/edit?usp=sharing)\n
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          [Espresso Aficionados - Discord](https://discord.gg/espresso)\n
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          [Espresso Aficionados - Wiki](https://espressoaf.com/) (as of May 2023, this is the most up-to-date resource for machine recommendations and it has a bunch of detailed guides for how to dial in espresso, puck prep & troubleshooting, and more advanced techniques!)\n
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          Espresso 101 Espresso starts with the coffee bean. Fresher is better. As u/Beans_McGhee says, “The beans really need to be roasted within the month you use them for perfect espresso.” Store-bought beans are fine, really—but part of the “fun” of espresso is trying different beans.\n
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          You grind your coffee beans using a grinder. This sub has lots of opinions on grinders.\n
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          \n
          Advanced practitioners will dose by weight. Typically, you’d want ~7g for a single shot and ~18g for a double shot. Automatic grinders may dose by time: this will get you “close enough”. Thus, the “single” dose will be around 7g and the “double” will be around 18g. (You can fine-tune these amounts—more on that later.)\n
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          Coffee grounds are light and fluffy, but you want them to be compact for espresso, so you tamp them (with your tamper). Advanced practitioners will calibrate their tamping pressure (e.g., with spring-loaded tampers)—don’t worry about that. Just give it a reasonable amount of force. If you’re putting your whole body weight on your tamper, that’s too much.\n
          \n
          You will get a feel for the right amount of force. You can also look at the level of the grounds in the basket. Use shape of your tamper or other tool to estimate how much space should be between your (tamped) grounds and the top of the basket.\n
          \n
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          \n
          At the advanced level, preparing espresso is all about ratios, namely weight and time. Generally, you want a 2:1 ratio in about 30 seconds. The 2:1 ratio means the ratio of your dose (i.e., ~18g) to the resulting espresso (i.e., ~36g). The process of brewing espresso is called extraction.\n
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          Many espresso machines will do this for you! When you press the double shot button, it will dispense enough water to make the “right” amount of espresso… presuming you’re using the right basket and the right dose! With such machines (e.g., the Breville Barista Express, or BBE), what you should do is watch the pressure gauge. It should be in the “espresso range”. (Advanced practitioners will measure pressure in bars—you want ~9 bars in an ideal world.)\n
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          If the pressure is low, you either need more grounds (higher dose)—which you can get by adjusting the grind amount—or a finer grind—which you can get by adjusting grind size. You may also need to tamp harder, but typically this isn’t the problem.\n
          \n
          (If your pressure is too high, the inverse is true… but this doesn’t happen very often.)\n
          \n
          Every bean is different, and so needs different settings to produce a good result—in your case, to keep that pressure dial where you want it. The process of adjusting these different settings is called dialing in.\n
          \n
          Your goal here is a well-extracted shot. That’s all about how it tastes! Espresso should be sweet and balanced. If it’s sour, it’s under-extracted (to which you would grind more and/or finer); if it’s bitter or astringent, it’s over-extracted (to which you would do the opposite).\n
          \n
          Everyone here is adjusting all these variables (bean, pressure, grind size, dose, ratio, extraction time, and more) in search of the perfect shot!\n
          \n
          (Derived from this post by u/basseq.)\n
          \n
          What espresso machine should I buy? Great question, and a very common one. Generally, there are two key inputs:\n
          \n
          How much do you want to “tinker” with your espresso? Do you want to play with different variables, or just wake up to a good coffee?\n
          \n
          How much do you want to spend?\n
          \n
          Espresso can be a very expensive hobby, so the answer to the second question can you get to the best bang for your buck.\n
          \n
          Remember that espresso is not just the machine. The other notable expense is the grinder, which can be as much as—if not more expensive—than the machine itself. There’s also some key accessories (notably a scale) and the cost of good coffee itself ($15+/lb).\n
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          Recommendations by Budget <$500 – Bare Bones If you’re looking to step up from a Nespresso or just drink less Starbucks, start here. There are really two ways to go:\n
          \n
          Manual ($250–$300) – Flair Neo ($125) + 1Zpresso JX ($130).\n
          \n
          Automatic ($450–$500) – Breville Bambino ($350) + Baratza Encore ($170).\n
          \n
          The DeLonghi Dedica ($350) is also a solid choice. For grinders, you can also check out the Breville Dose Control ($150), or upgrade to the 1Zpresso J-Max ($230). The Sette 30 ($300) and Mignon Notte ($320) grinders are solid, but may put you above $500.\n
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          If you’re really looking to do espresso on the cheap, forego the grinder and work with pressurized portafilters on the Neo or Bambino. Many of us started with things like the DeLonghi EC155 ($100), but it’s hard to recommend.\n
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          Keep in mind that the espresso you get in a cafe was ground on a grinder that cost around $2000 and brewed on a machine that cost at least $15,000. You can’t shrink all of that into a sub $300 setup without a huge loss of quality. –u/MyCatsNameIsBernie\n
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          $500–900 – Entry Level If you think you’re “serious” about espresso, this may be a better entry point than above, which you might outgrow sooner than later. There are two common choices here:\n
          \n
          All-In-One – Breville Barista Express ($750) or Pro ($850). While the community sees the built-in grinder as the weak spot (no upgrade path), and long-term reliability can be spotty, it an easy and popular entry point into the prosumer market.\n
          \n
          Separate Setup ($800–900) – Gaggia Classic Pro ($500) + Baratza Sette 270 ($400) – The Gaggia is a classic and time-tested, with lots of options in the used market.\n
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          Something like a Bambino Plus ($500) or Lelit Anna ($570) might also work. There are a lot of good grinders in this range: the DF64 ($400), Eureka Mignon Silenzio ($470), Baratza Vario ($480), and Rancilio Rocky ($430) are all well-regarded.\n
          \n
          If you’re strapped for cash, the r/espresso guidance is to prioritize the grinder. Better to run a cheaper machine (Bambino/Dedica) with a nicer grinder than the other way around.\n
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          $900–$1,500 – The Standard The endgame for many people, this range is probably the “sweet spot” for great espresso without going over the deep-end.\n
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          The r/espresso Standard – Rancilio Silvia ($850) + Niche Zero ($680) – The Silvia is a classic, moddable, and can be found used. For this price range, the alternate choice might be something like a Lelit Glenda ($900), or pairing a Gaggia with a nicer grinder. For grinders, ECM and Profitec both have offerings ($550), Baratza Vario W+ ($600), Eureka Mignon Specialita ($700), or any of the ones in the previous category. You can start mixing and matching machines and features and specs.\n
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          $1,500–3,000 – Prosumer We’re getting heavily into the “prosumer” market now, and there are less common machine+grinder pairings, so we’ll start looking at them separately.\n
          \n
          Machines – Profitec Pro ($1,800), ECM Classika ($1,600), Lelit Elizabeth ($1,700), Rocket Appartamento ($1,700). The land of shiny chrome and lots of knobs. The Breville Dual Boiler ($1,600) is in this range too.\n
          \n
          Grinders – Mazzer Mini ($800), Mahlkonig X54 ($750), Eureka Oro ($800).\n
          \n
          $3,000+ – Dream Machines From here, it’s dream machine land and the art of the possible. If you’re asking, “What should I buy,” you probably shouldn’t start here.\n
          \n
          Machines – Lelit Bianca ($2,900), ECM Synchronika ($3,200), Decent DE1 ($3,500), plus some offerings from Isomac, Rocket, Elektra, or Nuova Simonelli. You get into true “endgame” machines like La Marzocco Linea Mini ($5,900) or Slayer Single Group ($10,000).\n
          \n
          Grinders – Eureka Atom 75 ($1,400), Mahlkonig E65S ($2,300), KafaTek Monolith Flat ($2,500), Weber EG-1 ($3,700).
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          ============================================================\n
          \n
          Hoping to mirror the great community of r/espresso.\n
          \n
          We are a kind and accepting community for those who love, want to love, are getting into, or are interested in espresso and espresso accessories.\n
          \n
          Rules\n
          -----\n
          \n
          I didn’t think we needed this section on Lemmy, but…\n
          \n
          - All of the rules of this instance.\n
          - Be nice.\n
          - Be respectful.\n
          - No trolling.\n
          - Basically, don’t be a dick.\n
          \n
          (No exceptions)\n
          \n
          ---\n
          \n
          Resources\n
          ---------\n
          \n
          Here is the [main resource](https://www.home-barista.com/resources.html) from the same sub, since it’s amazing.\n
          \n
          If any of the original mods, or anyone else who loves espresso, would like to take control or help mod, please let me know. I’d be as happy to help as to pass the reigns.\n
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          A gracious community member has added[ some of the resources](https://lemmy.world/post/66717) from the Reddit sub.\n
          \n
          ---\n
          \n
          (I tried to grab all of the links from it, please let me know if I missed any)\n
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          <Wiki from r/espresso>\n
          \n
          Links\n
          \n
          [Google Sheets List of Espresso Machines](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vJv2AGJ1ZSm1TSdoixfJADh5z1CAZjzqjmTz5vrKEj4/edit?usp=sharing)\n
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          [Espresso Aficionados - Discord](https://discord.gg/espresso)\n
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          [Espresso Aficionados - Wiki](https://espressoaf.com/) (as of May 2023, this is the most up-to-date resource for machine recommendations and it has a bunch of detailed guides for how to dial in espresso, puck prep & troubleshooting, and more advanced techniques!)\n
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          Espresso 101 Espresso starts with the coffee bean. Fresher is better. As u/Beans_McGhee says, “The beans really need to be roasted within the month you use them for perfect espresso.” Store-bought beans are fine, really—but part of the “fun” of espresso is trying different beans.\n
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          \n
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          You would use dual-wall if you are using pre-ground coffee. Almost everyone will make (“pull”) double shots—when you get into weights and times, it’s all based on a double. So you should likely use the unpressurized (single wall) double basket.\n
          \n
          Advanced practitioners will dose by weight. Typically, you’d want ~7g for a single shot and ~18g for a double shot. Automatic grinders may dose by time: this will get you “close enough”. Thus, the “single” dose will be around 7g and the “double” will be around 18g. (You can fine-tune these amounts—more on that later.)\n
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          Coffee grounds are light and fluffy, but you want them to be compact for espresso, so you tamp them (with your tamper). Advanced practitioners will calibrate their tamping pressure (e.g., with spring-loaded tampers)—don’t worry about that. Just give it a reasonable amount of force. If you’re putting your whole body weight on your tamper, that’s too much.\n
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          You will get a feel for the right amount of force. You can also look at the level of the grounds in the basket. Use shape of your tamper or other tool to estimate how much space should be between your (tamped) grounds and the top of the basket.\n
          \n
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          \n
          At the advanced level, preparing espresso is all about ratios, namely weight and time. Generally, you want a 2:1 ratio in about 30 seconds. The 2:1 ratio means the ratio of your dose (i.e., ~18g) to the resulting espresso (i.e., ~36g). The process of brewing espresso is called extraction.\n
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          Many espresso machines will do this for you! When you press the double shot button, it will dispense enough water to make the “right” amount of espresso… presuming you’re using the right basket and the right dose! With such machines (e.g., the Breville Barista Express, or BBE), what you should do is watch the pressure gauge. It should be in the “espresso range”. (Advanced practitioners will measure pressure in bars—you want ~9 bars in an ideal world.)\n
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          \n
          (If your pressure is too high, the inverse is true… but this doesn’t happen very often.)\n
          \n
          Every bean is different, and so needs different settings to produce a good result—in your case, to keep that pressure dial where you want it. The process of adjusting these different settings is called dialing in.\n
          \n
          Your goal here is a well-extracted shot. That’s all about how it tastes! Espresso should be sweet and balanced. If it’s sour, it’s under-extracted (to which you would grind more and/or finer); if it’s bitter or astringent, it’s over-extracted (to which you would do the opposite).\n
          \n
          Everyone here is adjusting all these variables (bean, pressure, grind size, dose, ratio, extraction time, and more) in search of the perfect shot!\n
          \n
          (Derived from this post by u/basseq.)\n
          \n
          What espresso machine should I buy? Great question, and a very common one. Generally, there are two key inputs:\n
          \n
          How much do you want to “tinker” with your espresso? Do you want to play with different variables, or just wake up to a good coffee?\n
          \n
          How much do you want to spend?\n
          \n
          Espresso can be a very expensive hobby, so the answer to the second question can you get to the best bang for your buck.\n
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          Remember that espresso is not just the machine. The other notable expense is the grinder, which can be as much as—if not more expensive—than the machine itself. There’s also some key accessories (notably a scale) and the cost of good coffee itself ($15+/lb).\n
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          Recommendations by Budget <$500 – Bare Bones If you’re looking to step up from a Nespresso or just drink less Starbucks, start here. There are really two ways to go:\n
          \n
          Manual ($250–$300) – Flair Neo ($125) + 1Zpresso JX ($130).\n
          \n
          Automatic ($450–$500) – Breville Bambino ($350) + Baratza Encore ($170).\n
          \n
          The DeLonghi Dedica ($350) is also a solid choice. For grinders, you can also check out the Breville Dose Control ($150), or upgrade to the 1Zpresso J-Max ($230). The Sette 30 ($300) and Mignon Notte ($320) grinders are solid, but may put you above $500.\n
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          If you’re really looking to do espresso on the cheap, forego the grinder and work with pressurized portafilters on the Neo or Bambino. Many of us started with things like the DeLonghi EC155 ($100), but it’s hard to recommend.\n
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          Keep in mind that the espresso you get in a cafe was ground on a grinder that cost around $2000 and brewed on a machine that cost at least $15,000. You can’t shrink all of that into a sub $300 setup without a huge loss of quality. –u/MyCatsNameIsBernie\n
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          $500–900 – Entry Level If you think you’re “serious” about espresso, this may be a better entry point than above, which you might outgrow sooner than later. There are two common choices here:\n
          \n
          All-In-One – Breville Barista Express ($750) or Pro ($850). While the community sees the built-in grinder as the weak spot (no upgrade path), and long-term reliability can be spotty, it an easy and popular entry point into the prosumer market.\n
          \n
          Separate Setup ($800–900) – Gaggia Classic Pro ($500) + Baratza Sette 270 ($400) – The Gaggia is a classic and time-tested, with lots of options in the used market.\n
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          Something like a Bambino Plus ($500) or Lelit Anna ($570) might also work. There are a lot of good grinders in this range: the DF64 ($400), Eureka Mignon Silenzio ($470), Baratza Vario ($480), and Rancilio Rocky ($430) are all well-regarded.\n
          \n
          If you’re strapped for cash, the r/espresso guidance is to prioritize the grinder. Better to run a cheaper machine (Bambino/Dedica) with a nicer grinder than the other way around.\n
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          $900–$1,500 – The Standard The endgame for many people, this range is probably the “sweet spot” for great espresso without going over the deep-end.\n
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          The r/espresso Standard – Rancilio Silvia ($850) + Niche Zero ($680) – The Silvia is a classic, moddable, and can be found used. For this price range, the alternate choice might be something like a Lelit Glenda ($900), or pairing a Gaggia with a nicer grinder. For grinders, ECM and Profitec both have offerings ($550), Baratza Vario W+ ($600), Eureka Mignon Specialita ($700), or any of the ones in the previous category. You can start mixing and matching machines and features and specs.\n
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          $1,500–3,000 – Prosumer We’re getting heavily into the “prosumer” market now, and there are less common machine+grinder pairings, so we’ll start looking at them separately.\n
          \n
          Machines – Profitec Pro ($1,800), ECM Classika ($1,600), Lelit Elizabeth ($1,700), Rocket Appartamento ($1,700). The land of shiny chrome and lots of knobs. The Breville Dual Boiler ($1,600) is in this range too.\n
          \n
          Grinders – Mazzer Mini ($800), Mahlkonig X54 ($750), Eureka Oro ($800).\n
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          $3,000+ – Dream Machines From here, it’s dream machine land and the art of the possible. If you’re asking, “What should I buy,” you probably shouldn’t start here.\n
          \n
          Machines – Lelit Bianca ($2,900), ECM Synchronika ($3,200), Decent DE1 ($3,500), plus some offerings from Isomac, Rocket, Elektra, or Nuova Simonelli. You get into true “endgame” machines like La Marzocco Linea Mini ($5,900) or Slayer Single Group ($10,000).\n
          \n
          Grinders – Eureka Atom 75 ($1,400), Mahlkonig E65S ($2,300), KafaTek Monolith Flat ($2,500), Weber EG-1 ($3,700).
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          Strong, potent coffee news for strong, potent coffee lovers.\n
          ============================================================\n
          \n
          Hoping to mirror the great community of r/espresso.\n
          \n
          We are a kind and accepting community for those who love, want to love, are getting into, or are interested in espresso and espresso accessories.\n
          \n
          Rules\n
          -----\n
          \n
          I didn’t think we needed this section on Lemmy, but…\n
          \n
          - All of the rules of this instance.\n
          - Be nice.\n
          - Be respectful.\n
          - No trolling.\n
          - Basically, don’t be a dick.\n
          \n
          (No exceptions)\n
          \n
          ---\n
          \n
          Resources\n
          ---------\n
          \n
          Here is the [main resource](https://www.home-barista.com/resources.html) from the same sub, since it’s amazing.\n
          \n
          If any of the original mods, or anyone else who loves espresso, would like to take control or help mod, please let me know. I’d be as happy to help as to pass the reigns.\n
          \n
          A gracious community member has added[ some of the resources](https://lemmy.world/post/66717) from the Reddit sub.\n
          \n
          ---\n
          \n
          (I tried to grab all of the links from it, please let me know if I missed any)\n
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          <Wiki from r/espresso>\n
          \n
          Links\n
          \n
          [Google Sheets List of Espresso Machines](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vJv2AGJ1ZSm1TSdoixfJADh5z1CAZjzqjmTz5vrKEj4/edit?usp=sharing)\n
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          [Espresso Aficionados - Discord](https://discord.gg/espresso)\n
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          [Espresso Aficionados - Wiki](https://espressoaf.com/) (as of May 2023, this is the most up-to-date resource for machine recommendations and it has a bunch of detailed guides for how to dial in espresso, puck prep & troubleshooting, and more advanced techniques!)\n
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          Espresso 101 Espresso starts with the coffee bean. Fresher is better. As u/Beans_McGhee says, “The beans really need to be roasted within the month you use them for perfect espresso.” Store-bought beans are fine, really—but part of the “fun” of espresso is trying different beans.\n
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          You grind your coffee beans using a grinder. This sub has lots of opinions on grinders.\n
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          \n
          Advanced practitioners will dose by weight. Typically, you’d want ~7g for a single shot and ~18g for a double shot. Automatic grinders may dose by time: this will get you “close enough”. Thus, the “single” dose will be around 7g and the “double” will be around 18g. (You can fine-tune these amounts—more on that later.)\n
          \n
          Coffee grounds are light and fluffy, but you want them to be compact for espresso, so you tamp them (with your tamper). Advanced practitioners will calibrate their tamping pressure (e.g., with spring-loaded tampers)—don’t worry about that. Just give it a reasonable amount of force. If you’re putting your whole body weight on your tamper, that’s too much.\n
          \n
          You will get a feel for the right amount of force. You can also look at the level of the grounds in the basket. Use shape of your tamper or other tool to estimate how much space should be between your (tamped) grounds and the top of the basket.\n
          \n
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          \n
          At the advanced level, preparing espresso is all about ratios, namely weight and time. Generally, you want a 2:1 ratio in about 30 seconds. The 2:1 ratio means the ratio of your dose (i.e., ~18g) to the resulting espresso (i.e., ~36g). The process of brewing espresso is called extraction.\n
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          Many espresso machines will do this for you! When you press the double shot button, it will dispense enough water to make the “right” amount of espresso… presuming you’re using the right basket and the right dose! With such machines (e.g., the Breville Barista Express, or BBE), what you should do is watch the pressure gauge. It should be in the “espresso range”. (Advanced practitioners will measure pressure in bars—you want ~9 bars in an ideal world.)\n
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          If the pressure is low, you either need more grounds (higher dose)—which you can get by adjusting the grind amount—or a finer grind—which you can get by adjusting grind size. You may also need to tamp harder, but typically this isn’t the problem.\n
          \n
          (If your pressure is too high, the inverse is true… but this doesn’t happen very often.)\n
          \n
          Every bean is different, and so needs different settings to produce a good result—in your case, to keep that pressure dial where you want it. The process of adjusting these different settings is called dialing in.\n
          \n
          Your goal here is a well-extracted shot. That’s all about how it tastes! Espresso should be sweet and balanced. If it’s sour, it’s under-extracted (to which you would grind more and/or finer); if it’s bitter or astringent, it’s over-extracted (to which you would do the opposite).\n
          \n
          Everyone here is adjusting all these variables (bean, pressure, grind size, dose, ratio, extraction time, and more) in search of the perfect shot!\n
          \n
          (Derived from this post by u/basseq.)\n
          \n
          What espresso machine should I buy? Great question, and a very common one. Generally, there are two key inputs:\n
          \n
          How much do you want to “tinker” with your espresso? Do you want to play with different variables, or just wake up to a good coffee?\n
          \n
          How much do you want to spend?\n
          \n
          Espresso can be a very expensive hobby, so the answer to the second question can you get to the best bang for your buck.\n
          \n
          Remember that espresso is not just the machine. The other notable expense is the grinder, which can be as much as—if not more expensive—than the machine itself. There’s also some key accessories (notably a scale) and the cost of good coffee itself ($15+/lb).\n
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          Recommendations by Budget <$500 – Bare Bones If you’re looking to step up from a Nespresso or just drink less Starbucks, start here. There are really two ways to go:\n
          \n
          Manual ($250–$300) – Flair Neo ($125) + 1Zpresso JX ($130).\n
          \n
          Automatic ($450–$500) – Breville Bambino ($350) + Baratza Encore ($170).\n
          \n
          The DeLonghi Dedica ($350) is also a solid choice. For grinders, you can also check out the Breville Dose Control ($150), or upgrade to the 1Zpresso J-Max ($230). The Sette 30 ($300) and Mignon Notte ($320) grinders are solid, but may put you above $500.\n
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          If you’re really looking to do espresso on the cheap, forego the grinder and work with pressurized portafilters on the Neo or Bambino. Many of us started with things like the DeLonghi EC155 ($100), but it’s hard to recommend.\n
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          Keep in mind that the espresso you get in a cafe was ground on a grinder that cost around $2000 and brewed on a machine that cost at least $15,000. You can’t shrink all of that into a sub $300 setup without a huge loss of quality. –u/MyCatsNameIsBernie\n
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          $500–900 – Entry Level If you think you’re “serious” about espresso, this may be a better entry point than above, which you might outgrow sooner than later. There are two common choices here:\n
          \n
          All-In-One – Breville Barista Express ($750) or Pro ($850). While the community sees the built-in grinder as the weak spot (no upgrade path), and long-term reliability can be spotty, it an easy and popular entry point into the prosumer market.\n
          \n
          Separate Setup ($800–900) – Gaggia Classic Pro ($500) + Baratza Sette 270 ($400) – The Gaggia is a classic and time-tested, with lots of options in the used market.\n
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          Something like a Bambino Plus ($500) or Lelit Anna ($570) might also work. There are a lot of good grinders in this range: the DF64 ($400), Eureka Mignon Silenzio ($470), Baratza Vario ($480), and Rancilio Rocky ($430) are all well-regarded.\n
          \n
          If you’re strapped for cash, the r/espresso guidance is to prioritize the grinder. Better to run a cheaper machine (Bambino/Dedica) with a nicer grinder than the other way around.\n
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          $900–$1,500 – The Standard The endgame for many people, this range is probably the “sweet spot” for great espresso without going over the deep-end.\n
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          The r/espresso Standard – Rancilio Silvia ($850) + Niche Zero ($680) – The Silvia is a classic, moddable, and can be found used. For this price range, the alternate choice might be something like a Lelit Glenda ($900), or pairing a Gaggia with a nicer grinder. For grinders, ECM and Profitec both have offerings ($550), Baratza Vario W+ ($600), Eureka Mignon Specialita ($700), or any of the ones in the previous category. You can start mixing and matching machines and features and specs.\n
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          $1,500–3,000 – Prosumer We’re getting heavily into the “prosumer” market now, and there are less common machine+grinder pairings, so we’ll start looking at them separately.\n
          \n
          Machines – Profitec Pro ($1,800), ECM Classika ($1,600), Lelit Elizabeth ($1,700), Rocket Appartamento ($1,700). The land of shiny chrome and lots of knobs. The Breville Dual Boiler ($1,600) is in this range too.\n
          \n
          Grinders – Mazzer Mini ($800), Mahlkonig X54 ($750), Eureka Oro ($800).\n
          \n
          $3,000+ – Dream Machines From here, it’s dream machine land and the art of the possible. If you’re asking, “What should I buy,” you probably shouldn’t start here.\n
          \n
          Machines – Lelit Bianca ($2,900), ECM Synchronika ($3,200), Decent DE1 ($3,500), plus some offerings from Isomac, Rocket, Elektra, or Nuova Simonelli. You get into true “endgame” machines like La Marzocco Linea Mini ($5,900) or Slayer Single Group ($10,000).\n
          \n
          Grinders – Eureka Atom 75 ($1,400), Mahlkonig E65S ($2,300), KafaTek Monolith Flat ($2,500), Weber EG-1 ($3,700).
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          Strong, potent coffee news for strong, potent coffee lovers.\n
          ============================================================\n
          \n
          Hoping to mirror the great community of r/espresso.\n
          \n
          We are a kind and accepting community for those who love, want to love, are getting into, or are interested in espresso and espresso accessories.\n
          \n
          Rules\n
          -----\n
          \n
          I didn’t think we needed this section on Lemmy, but…\n
          \n
          - All of the rules of this instance.\n
          - Be nice.\n
          - Be respectful.\n
          - No trolling.\n
          - Basically, don’t be a dick.\n
          \n
          (No exceptions)\n
          \n
          ---\n
          \n
          Resources\n
          ---------\n
          \n
          Here is the [main resource](https://www.home-barista.com/resources.html) from the same sub, since it’s amazing.\n
          \n
          If any of the original mods, or anyone else who loves espresso, would like to take control or help mod, please let me know. I’d be as happy to help as to pass the reigns.\n
          \n
          A gracious community member has added[ some of the resources](https://lemmy.world/post/66717) from the Reddit sub.\n
          \n
          ---\n
          \n
          (I tried to grab all of the links from it, please let me know if I missed any)\n
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          <Wiki from r/espresso>\n
          \n
          Links\n
          \n
          [Google Sheets List of Espresso Machines](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vJv2AGJ1ZSm1TSdoixfJADh5z1CAZjzqjmTz5vrKEj4/edit?usp=sharing)\n
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          [Espresso Aficionados - Discord](https://discord.gg/espresso)\n
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          [Espresso Aficionados - Wiki](https://espressoaf.com/) (as of May 2023, this is the most up-to-date resource for machine recommendations and it has a bunch of detailed guides for how to dial in espresso, puck prep & troubleshooting, and more advanced techniques!)\n
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          Espresso 101 Espresso starts with the coffee bean. Fresher is better. As u/Beans_McGhee says, “The beans really need to be roasted within the month you use them for perfect espresso.” Store-bought beans are fine, really—but part of the “fun” of espresso is trying different beans.\n
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          \n
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          You would use dual-wall if you are using pre-ground coffee. Almost everyone will make (“pull”) double shots—when you get into weights and times, it’s all based on a double. So you should likely use the unpressurized (single wall) double basket.\n
          \n
          Advanced practitioners will dose by weight. Typically, you’d want ~7g for a single shot and ~18g for a double shot. Automatic grinders may dose by time: this will get you “close enough”. Thus, the “single” dose will be around 7g and the “double” will be around 18g. (You can fine-tune these amounts—more on that later.)\n
          \n
          Coffee grounds are light and fluffy, but you want them to be compact for espresso, so you tamp them (with your tamper). Advanced practitioners will calibrate their tamping pressure (e.g., with spring-loaded tampers)—don’t worry about that. Just give it a reasonable amount of force. If you’re putting your whole body weight on your tamper, that’s too much.\n
          \n
          You will get a feel for the right amount of force. You can also look at the level of the grounds in the basket. Use shape of your tamper or other tool to estimate how much space should be between your (tamped) grounds and the top of the basket.\n
          \n
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          \n
          At the advanced level, preparing espresso is all about ratios, namely weight and time. Generally, you want a 2:1 ratio in about 30 seconds. The 2:1 ratio means the ratio of your dose (i.e., ~18g) to the resulting espresso (i.e., ~36g). The process of brewing espresso is called extraction.\n
          \n
          Many espresso machines will do this for you! When you press the double shot button, it will dispense enough water to make the “right” amount of espresso… presuming you’re using the right basket and the right dose! With such machines (e.g., the Breville Barista Express, or BBE), what you should do is watch the pressure gauge. It should be in the “espresso range”. (Advanced practitioners will measure pressure in bars—you want ~9 bars in an ideal world.)\n
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          If the pressure is low, you either need more grounds (higher dose)—which you can get by adjusting the grind amount—or a finer grind—which you can get by adjusting grind size. You may also need to tamp harder, but typically this isn’t the problem.\n
          \n
          (If your pressure is too high, the inverse is true… but this doesn’t happen very often.)\n
          \n
          Every bean is different, and so needs different settings to produce a good result—in your case, to keep that pressure dial where you want it. The process of adjusting these different settings is called dialing in.\n
          \n
          Your goal here is a well-extracted shot. That’s all about how it tastes! Espresso should be sweet and balanced. If it’s sour, it’s under-extracted (to which you would grind more and/or finer); if it’s bitter or astringent, it’s over-extracted (to which you would do the opposite).\n
          \n
          Everyone here is adjusting all these variables (bean, pressure, grind size, dose, ratio, extraction time, and more) in search of the perfect shot!\n
          \n
          (Derived from this post by u/basseq.)\n
          \n
          What espresso machine should I buy? Great question, and a very common one. Generally, there are two key inputs:\n
          \n
          How much do you want to “tinker” with your espresso? Do you want to play with different variables, or just wake up to a good coffee?\n
          \n
          How much do you want to spend?\n
          \n
          Espresso can be a very expensive hobby, so the answer to the second question can you get to the best bang for your buck.\n
          \n
          Remember that espresso is not just the machine. The other notable expense is the grinder, which can be as much as—if not more expensive—than the machine itself. There’s also some key accessories (notably a scale) and the cost of good coffee itself ($15+/lb).\n
          \n
          Recommendations by Budget <$500 – Bare Bones If you’re looking to step up from a Nespresso or just drink less Starbucks, start here. There are really two ways to go:\n
          \n
          Manual ($250–$300) – Flair Neo ($125) + 1Zpresso JX ($130).\n
          \n
          Automatic ($450–$500) – Breville Bambino ($350) + Baratza Encore ($170).\n
          \n
          The DeLonghi Dedica ($350) is also a solid choice. For grinders, you can also check out the Breville Dose Control ($150), or upgrade to the 1Zpresso J-Max ($230). The Sette 30 ($300) and Mignon Notte ($320) grinders are solid, but may put you above $500.\n
          \n
          If you’re really looking to do espresso on the cheap, forego the grinder and work with pressurized portafilters on the Neo or Bambino. Many of us started with things like the DeLonghi EC155 ($100), but it’s hard to recommend.\n
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          Keep in mind that the espresso you get in a cafe was ground on a grinder that cost around $2000 and brewed on a machine that cost at least $15,000. You can’t shrink all of that into a sub $300 setup without a huge loss of quality. –u/MyCatsNameIsBernie\n
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          $500–900 – Entry Level If you think you’re “serious” about espresso, this may be a better entry point than above, which you might outgrow sooner than later. There are two common choices here:\n
          \n
          All-In-One – Breville Barista Express ($750) or Pro ($850). While the community sees the built-in grinder as the weak spot (no upgrade path), and long-term reliability can be spotty, it an easy and popular entry point into the prosumer market.\n
          \n
          Separate Setup ($800–900) – Gaggia Classic Pro ($500) + Baratza Sette 270 ($400) – The Gaggia is a classic and time-tested, with lots of options in the used market.\n
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          Something like a Bambino Plus ($500) or Lelit Anna ($570) might also work. There are a lot of good grinders in this range: the DF64 ($400), Eureka Mignon Silenzio ($470), Baratza Vario ($480), and Rancilio Rocky ($430) are all well-regarded.\n
          \n
          If you’re strapped for cash, the r/espresso guidance is to prioritize the grinder. Better to run a cheaper machine (Bambino/Dedica) with a nicer grinder than the other way around.\n
          \n
          $900–$1,500 – The Standard The endgame for many people, this range is probably the “sweet spot” for great espresso without going over the deep-end.\n
          \n
          The r/espresso Standard – Rancilio Silvia ($850) + Niche Zero ($680) – The Silvia is a classic, moddable, and can be found used. For this price range, the alternate choice might be something like a Lelit Glenda ($900), or pairing a Gaggia with a nicer grinder. For grinders, ECM and Profitec both have offerings ($550), Baratza Vario W+ ($600), Eureka Mignon Specialita ($700), or any of the ones in the previous category. You can start mixing and matching machines and features and specs.\n
          \n
          $1,500–3,000 – Prosumer We’re getting heavily into the “prosumer” market now, and there are less common machine+grinder pairings, so we’ll start looking at them separately.\n
          \n
          Machines – Profitec Pro ($1,800), ECM Classika ($1,600), Lelit Elizabeth ($1,700), Rocket Appartamento ($1,700). The land of shiny chrome and lots of knobs. The Breville Dual Boiler ($1,600) is in this range too.\n
          \n
          Grinders – Mazzer Mini ($800), Mahlkonig X54 ($750), Eureka Oro ($800).\n
          \n
          $3,000+ – Dream Machines From here, it’s dream machine land and the art of the possible. If you’re asking, “What should I buy,” you probably shouldn’t start here.\n
          \n
          Machines – Lelit Bianca ($2,900), ECM Synchronika ($3,200), Decent DE1 ($3,500), plus some offerings from Isomac, Rocket, Elektra, or Nuova Simonelli. You get into true “endgame” machines like La Marzocco Linea Mini ($5,900) or Slayer Single Group ($10,000).\n
          \n
          Grinders – Eureka Atom 75 ($1,400), Mahlkonig E65S ($2,300), KafaTek Monolith Flat ($2,500), Weber EG-1 ($3,700).
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        ### Other Cooking Communities:\n
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        [!bbq@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/bbq) - Lemmy.world’s home for BBQ.\n
        \n
        [!foodporn@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/foodporn) - Showcasing your best culinary creations.\n
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        [!bbq@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/bbq) - Lemmy.world’s home for BBQ.\n
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        [!foodporn@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/foodporn) - Showcasing your best culinary creations.\n
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        [!foodporn@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/foodporn) - Showcasing your best culinary creations.\n
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          ### Other Cooking Communities:\n
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          [!bbq@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/bbq) - Lemmy.world’s home for BBQ.\n
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          [!foodporn@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/foodporn) - Showcasing your best culinary creations.\n
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          [!sousvide@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/sousvide) - All things sous vide precision cooking.\n
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          [!koreanfood@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/koreanfood) - Celebrating Korean cuisine!\n
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          [!foodporn@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/foodporn) - Showcasing your best culinary creations.\n
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          ### Other Cooking Communities:\n
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          [!bbq@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/bbq) - Lemmy.world’s home for BBQ.\n
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          [!foodporn@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/foodporn) - Showcasing your best culinary creations.\n
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          ### Other Cooking Communities:\n
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          Taken a nice photo of your creation? We highly encourage sharing with our friends over at [!foodporn@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/foodporn).\n
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          - [DISCUSSION] - For general culinary discussion.\n
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          ### Other Cooking Communities:\n
          \n
          [!bbq@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/bbq) - Lemmy.world’s home for BBQ.\n
          \n
          [!foodporn@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/foodporn) - Showcasing your best culinary creations.\n
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          [!sousvide@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/sousvide) - All things sous vide precision cooking.\n
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          [!koreanfood@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/koreanfood) - Celebrating Korean cuisine!\n
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          While posting and commenting in this community, you must abide by the Lemmy.World Terms of Service: [legal.lemmy.world/tos/](https://legal.lemmy.world/tos/)\n
          \n
          1. Posts or comments that are homophobic, transphobic, racist, sexist, ableist, or advocating violence will be removed.\n
          2. Be civil: disagreements happen, but that doesn’t provide the right to personally insult others.\n
          3. Spam, self promotion, trolling, and bots are not allowed\n
          4. Shitposts and memes are allowed until they prove to be a problem.\n
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        ============================================================\n
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        Hoping to mirror the great community of r/espresso.\n
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        We are a kind and accepting community for those who love, want to love, are getting into, or are interested in espresso and espresso accessories.\n
        \n
        Rules\n
        -----\n
        \n
        I didn’t think we needed this section on Lemmy, but…\n
        \n
        - All of the rules of this instance.\n
        - Be nice.\n
        - Be respectful.\n
        - No trolling.\n
        - Basically, don’t be a dick.\n
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        (No exceptions)\n
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        Resources\n
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        Here is the [main resource](https://www.home-barista.com/resources.html) from the same sub, since it’s amazing.\n
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        A gracious community member has added[ some of the resources](https://lemmy.world/post/66717) from the Reddit sub.\n
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        ---\n
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        (I tried to grab all of the links from it, please let me know if I missed any)\n
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        &lt;Wiki from r/espresso&gt;\n
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        Links\n
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        [Google Sheets List of Espresso Machines](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vJv2AGJ1ZSm1TSdoixfJADh5z1CAZjzqjmTz5vrKEj4/edit?usp=sharing)\n
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        [Espresso Aficionados - Discord](https://discord.gg/espresso)\n
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        [Espresso Aficionados - Wiki](https://espressoaf.com/) (as of May 2023, this is the most up-to-date resource for machine recommendations and it has a bunch of detailed guides for how to dial in espresso, puck prep &amp; troubleshooting, and more advanced techniques!)\n
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        Coffee grounds are light and fluffy, but you want them to be compact for espresso, so you tamp them (with your tamper). Advanced practitioners will calibrate their tamping pressure (e.g., with spring-loaded tampers)—don’t worry about that. Just give it a reasonable amount of force. If you’re putting your whole body weight on your tamper, that’s too much.\n
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        (If your pressure is too high, the inverse is true… but this doesn’t happen very often.)\n
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        Every bean is different, and so needs different settings to produce a good result—in your case, to keep that pressure dial where you want it. The process of adjusting these different settings is called dialing in.\n
        \n
        Your goal here is a well-extracted shot. That’s all about how it tastes! Espresso should be sweet and balanced. If it’s sour, it’s under-extracted (to which you would grind more and/or finer); if it’s bitter or astringent, it’s over-extracted (to which you would do the opposite).\n
        \n
        Everyone here is adjusting all these variables (bean, pressure, grind size, dose, ratio, extraction time, and more) in search of the perfect shot!\n
        \n
        (Derived from this post by u/basseq.)\n
        \n
        What espresso machine should I buy? Great question, and a very common one. Generally, there are two key inputs:\n
        \n
        How much do you want to “tinker” with your espresso? Do you want to play with different variables, or just wake up to a good coffee?\n
        \n
        How much do you want to spend?\n
        \n
        Espresso can be a very expensive hobby, so the answer to the second question can you get to the best bang for your buck.\n
        \n
        Remember that espresso is not just the machine. The other notable expense is the grinder, which can be as much as—if not more expensive—than the machine itself. There’s also some key accessories (notably a scale) and the cost of good coffee itself ($15+/lb).\n
        \n
        Recommendations by Budget &lt;$500 – Bare Bones If you’re looking to step up from a Nespresso or just drink less Starbucks, start here. There are really two ways to go:\n
        \n
        Manual ($250–$300) – Flair Neo ($125) + 1Zpresso JX ($130).\n
        \n
        Automatic ($450–$500) – Breville Bambino ($350) + Baratza Encore ($170).\n
        \n
        The DeLonghi Dedica ($350) is also a solid choice. For grinders, you can also check out the Breville Dose Control ($150), or upgrade to the 1Zpresso J-Max ($230). The Sette 30 ($300) and Mignon Notte ($320) grinders are solid, but may put you above $500.\n
        \n
        If you’re really looking to do espresso on the cheap, forego the grinder and work with pressurized portafilters on the Neo or Bambino. Many of us started with things like the DeLonghi EC155 ($100), but it’s hard to recommend.\n
        \n
        Keep in mind that the espresso you get in a cafe was ground on a grinder that cost around $2000 and brewed on a machine that cost at least $15,000. You can’t shrink all of that into a sub $300 setup without a huge loss of quality. –u/MyCatsNameIsBernie\n
        \n
        $500–900 – Entry Level If you think you’re “serious” about espresso, this may be a better entry point than above, which you might outgrow sooner than later. There are two common choices here:\n
        \n
        All-In-One – Breville Barista Express ($750) or Pro ($850). While the community sees the built-in grinder as the weak spot (no upgrade path), and long-term reliability can be spotty, it an easy and popular entry point into the prosumer market.\n
        \n
        Separate Setup ($800–900) – Gaggia Classic Pro ($500) + Baratza Sette 270 ($400) – The Gaggia is a classic and time-tested, with lots of options in the used market.\n
        \n
        Something like a Bambino Plus ($500) or Lelit Anna ($570) might also work. There are a lot of good grinders in this range: the DF64 ($400), Eureka Mignon Silenzio ($470), Baratza Vario ($480), and Rancilio Rocky ($430) are all well-regarded.\n
        \n
        If you’re strapped for cash, the r/espresso guidance is to prioritize the grinder. Better to run a cheaper machine (Bambino/Dedica) with a nicer grinder than the other way around.\n
        \n
        $900–$1,500 – The Standard The endgame for many people, this range is probably the “sweet spot” for great espresso without going over the deep-end.\n
        \n
        The r/espresso Standard – Rancilio Silvia ($850) + Niche Zero ($680) – The Silvia is a classic, moddable, and can be found used. For this price range, the alternate choice might be something like a Lelit Glenda ($900), or pairing a Gaggia with a nicer grinder. For grinders, ECM and Profitec both have offerings ($550), Baratza Vario W+ ($600), Eureka Mignon Specialita ($700), or any of the ones in the previous category. You can start mixing and matching machines and features and specs.\n
        \n
        $1,500–3,000 – Prosumer We’re getting heavily into the “prosumer” market now, and there are less common machine+grinder pairings, so we’ll start looking at them separately.\n
        \n
        Machines – Profitec Pro ($1,800), ECM Classika ($1,600), Lelit Elizabeth ($1,700), Rocket Appartamento ($1,700). The land of shiny chrome and lots of knobs. The Breville Dual Boiler ($1,600) is in this range too.\n
        \n
        Grinders – Mazzer Mini ($800), Mahlkonig X54 ($750), Eureka Oro ($800).\n
        \n
        $3,000+ – Dream Machines From here, it’s dream machine land and the art of the possible. If you’re asking, “What should I buy,” you probably shouldn’t start here.\n
        \n
        Machines – Lelit Bianca ($2,900), ECM Synchronika ($3,200), Decent DE1 ($3,500), plus some offerings from Isomac, Rocket, Elektra, or Nuova Simonelli. You get into true “endgame” machines like La Marzocco Linea Mini ($5,900) or Slayer Single Group ($10,000).\n
        \n
        Grinders – Eureka Atom 75 ($1,400), Mahlkonig E65S ($2,300), KafaTek Monolith Flat ($2,500), Weber EG-1 ($3,700).
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        Strong, potent coffee news for strong, potent coffee lovers.\n
        ============================================================\n
        \n
        Hoping to mirror the great community of r/espresso.\n
        \n
        We are a kind and accepting community for those who love, want to love, are getting into, or are interested in espresso and espresso accessories.\n
        \n
        Rules\n
        -----\n
        \n
        I didn’t think we needed this section on Lemmy, but…\n
        \n
        - All of the rules of this instance.\n
        - Be nice.\n
        - Be respectful.\n
        - No trolling.\n
        - Basically, don’t be a dick.\n
        \n
        (No exceptions)\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        Resources\n
        ---------\n
        \n
        Here is the [main resource](https://www.home-barista.com/resources.html) from the same sub, since it’s amazing.\n
        \n
        If any of the original mods, or anyone else who loves espresso, would like to take control or help mod, please let me know. I’d be as happy to help as to pass the reigns.\n
        \n
        A gracious community member has added[ some of the resources](https://lemmy.world/post/66717) from the Reddit sub.\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        (I tried to grab all of the links from it, please let me know if I missed any)\n
        \n
        &lt;Wiki from r/espresso&gt;\n
        \n
        Links\n
        \n
        [Google Sheets List of Espresso Machines](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vJv2AGJ1ZSm1TSdoixfJADh5z1CAZjzqjmTz5vrKEj4/edit?usp=sharing)\n
        \n
        [Espresso Aficionados - Discord](https://discord.gg/espresso)\n
        \n
        [Espresso Aficionados - Wiki](https://espressoaf.com/) (as of May 2023, this is the most up-to-date resource for machine recommendations and it has a bunch of detailed guides for how to dial in espresso, puck prep &amp; troubleshooting, and more advanced techniques!)\n
        \n
        Espresso 101 Espresso starts with the coffee bean. Fresher is better. As u/Beans_McGhee says, “The beans really need to be roasted within the month you use them for perfect espresso.” Store-bought beans are fine, really—but part of the “fun” of espresso is trying different beans.\n
        \n
        You grind your coffee beans using a grinder. This sub has lots of opinions on grinders.\n
        \n
        The amount of ground coffee you use is called the dose. So when u/SingularLattice says, “Make sure you have the right dose for your basket”, that’s what he means.\n
        \n
        A basket is the little metal cup that goes in your portafilter—that’s the metal thing with a handle on it. Espresso machines often come with 4 baskets: a single and a double in both unpressurized and pressurized. Doubles are the larger ones; pressurized variants are a different shape and may say “dual wall” on the bottom.\n
        \n
        You would use dual-wall if you are using pre-ground coffee. Almost everyone will make (“pull”) double shots—when you get into weights and times, it’s all based on a double. So you should likely use the unpressurized (single wall) double basket.\n
        \n
        Advanced practitioners will dose by weight. Typically, you’d want ~7g for a single shot and ~18g for a double shot. Automatic grinders may dose by time: this will get you “close enough”. Thus, the “single” dose will be around 7g and the “double” will be around 18g. (You can fine-tune these amounts—more on that later.)\n
        \n
        Coffee grounds are light and fluffy, but you want them to be compact for espresso, so you tamp them (with your tamper). Advanced practitioners will calibrate their tamping pressure (e.g., with spring-loaded tampers)—don’t worry about that. Just give it a reasonable amount of force. If you’re putting your whole body weight on your tamper, that’s too much.\n
        \n
        You will get a feel for the right amount of force. You can also look at the level of the grounds in the basket. Use shape of your tamper or other tool to estimate how much space should be between your (tamped) grounds and the top of the basket.\n
        \n
        As u/SingularLattice says, “You need to tamp FLAT, not hard. So long as it’s firm, you’re good.”\n
        \n
        At the advanced level, preparing espresso is all about ratios, namely weight and time. Generally, you want a 2:1 ratio in about 30 seconds. The 2:1 ratio means the ratio of your dose (i.e., ~18g) to the resulting espresso (i.e., ~36g). The process of brewing espresso is called extraction.\n
        \n
        Many espresso machines will do this for you! When you press the double shot button, it will dispense enough water to make the “right” amount of espresso… presuming you’re using the right basket and the right dose! With such machines (e.g., the Breville Barista Express, or BBE), what you should do is watch the pressure gauge. It should be in the “espresso range”. (Advanced practitioners will measure pressure in bars—you want ~9 bars in an ideal world.)\n
        \n
        If the pressure is low, you either need more grounds (higher dose)—which you can get by adjusting the grind amount—or a finer grind—which you can get by adjusting grind size. You may also need to tamp harder, but typically this isn’t the problem.\n
        \n
        (If your pressure is too high, the inverse is true… but this doesn’t happen very often.)\n
        \n
        Every bean is different, and so needs different settings to produce a good result—in your case, to keep that pressure dial where you want it. The process of adjusting these different settings is called dialing in.\n
        \n
        Your goal here is a well-extracted shot. That’s all about how it tastes! Espresso should be sweet and balanced. If it’s sour, it’s under-extracted (to which you would grind more and/or finer); if it’s bitter or astringent, it’s over-extracted (to which you would do the opposite).\n
        \n
        Everyone here is adjusting all these variables (bean, pressure, grind size, dose, ratio, extraction time, and more) in search of the perfect shot!\n
        \n
        (Derived from this post by u/basseq.)\n
        \n
        What espresso machine should I buy? Great question, and a very common one. Generally, there are two key inputs:\n
        \n
        How much do you want to “tinker” with your espresso? Do you want to play with different variables, or just wake up to a good coffee?\n
        \n
        How much do you want to spend?\n
        \n
        Espresso can be a very expensive hobby, so the answer to the second question can you get to the best bang for your buck.\n
        \n
        Remember that espresso is not just the machine. The other notable expense is the grinder, which can be as much as—if not more expensive—than the machine itself. There’s also some key accessories (notably a scale) and the cost of good coffee itself ($15+/lb).\n
        \n
        Recommendations by Budget &lt;$500 – Bare Bones If you’re looking to step up from a Nespresso or just drink less Starbucks, start here. There are really two ways to go:\n
        \n
        Manual ($250–$300) – Flair Neo ($125) + 1Zpresso JX ($130).\n
        \n
        Automatic ($450–$500) – Breville Bambino ($350) + Baratza Encore ($170).\n
        \n
        The DeLonghi Dedica ($350) is also a solid choice. For grinders, you can also check out the Breville Dose Control ($150), or upgrade to the 1Zpresso J-Max ($230). The Sette 30 ($300) and Mignon Notte ($320) grinders are solid, but may put you above $500.\n
        \n
        If you’re really looking to do espresso on the cheap, forego the grinder and work with pressurized portafilters on the Neo or Bambino. Many of us started with things like the DeLonghi EC155 ($100), but it’s hard to recommend.\n
        \n
        Keep in mind that the espresso you get in a cafe was ground on a grinder that cost around $2000 and brewed on a machine that cost at least $15,000. You can’t shrink all of that into a sub $300 setup without a huge loss of quality. –u/MyCatsNameIsBernie\n
        \n
        $500–900 – Entry Level If you think you’re “serious” about espresso, this may be a better entry point than above, which you might outgrow sooner than later. There are two common choices here:\n
        \n
        All-In-One – Breville Barista Express ($750) or Pro ($850). While the community sees the built-in grinder as the weak spot (no upgrade path), and long-term reliability can be spotty, it an easy and popular entry point into the prosumer market.\n
        \n
        Separate Setup ($800–900) – Gaggia Classic Pro ($500) + Baratza Sette 270 ($400) – The Gaggia is a classic and time-tested, with lots of options in the used market.\n
        \n
        Something like a Bambino Plus ($500) or Lelit Anna ($570) might also work. There are a lot of good grinders in this range: the DF64 ($400), Eureka Mignon Silenzio ($470), Baratza Vario ($480), and Rancilio Rocky ($430) are all well-regarded.\n
        \n
        If you’re strapped for cash, the r/espresso guidance is to prioritize the grinder. Better to run a cheaper machine (Bambino/Dedica) with a nicer grinder than the other way around.\n
        \n
        $900–$1,500 – The Standard The endgame for many people, this range is probably the “sweet spot” for great espresso without going over the deep-end.\n
        \n
        The r/espresso Standard – Rancilio Silvia ($850) + Niche Zero ($680) – The Silvia is a classic, moddable, and can be found used. For this price range, the alternate choice might be something like a Lelit Glenda ($900), or pairing a Gaggia with a nicer grinder. For grinders, ECM and Profitec both have offerings ($550), Baratza Vario W+ ($600), Eureka Mignon Specialita ($700), or any of the ones in the previous category. You can start mixing and matching machines and features and specs.\n
        \n
        $1,500–3,000 – Prosumer We’re getting heavily into the “prosumer” market now, and there are less common machine+grinder pairings, so we’ll start looking at them separately.\n
        \n
        Machines – Profitec Pro ($1,800), ECM Classika ($1,600), Lelit Elizabeth ($1,700), Rocket Appartamento ($1,700). The land of shiny chrome and lots of knobs. The Breville Dual Boiler ($1,600) is in this range too.\n
        \n
        Grinders – Mazzer Mini ($800), Mahlkonig X54 ($750), Eureka Oro ($800).\n
        \n
        $3,000+ – Dream Machines From here, it’s dream machine land and the art of the possible. If you’re asking, “What should I buy,” you probably shouldn’t start here.\n
        \n
        Machines – Lelit Bianca ($2,900), ECM Synchronika ($3,200), Decent DE1 ($3,500), plus some offerings from Isomac, Rocket, Elektra, or Nuova Simonelli. You get into true “endgame” machines like La Marzocco Linea Mini ($5,900) or Slayer Single Group ($10,000).\n
        \n
        Grinders – Eureka Atom 75 ($1,400), Mahlkonig E65S ($2,300), KafaTek Monolith Flat ($2,500), Weber EG-1 ($3,700).
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      Strong, potent coffee news for strong, potent coffee lovers.\n
      ============================================================\n
      \n
      Hoping to mirror the great community of r/espresso.\n
      \n
      We are a kind and accepting community for those who love, want to love, are getting into, or are interested in espresso and espresso accessories.\n
      \n
      Rules\n
      -----\n
      \n
      I didn’t think we needed this section on Lemmy, but…\n
      \n
      - All of the rules of this instance.\n
      - Be nice.\n
      - Be respectful.\n
      - No trolling.\n
      - Basically, don’t be a dick.\n
      \n
      (No exceptions)\n
      \n
      ---\n
      \n
      Resources\n
      ---------\n
      \n
      Here is the [main resource](https://www.home-barista.com/resources.html) from the same sub, since it’s amazing.\n
      \n
      If any of the original mods, or anyone else who loves espresso, would like to take control or help mod, please let me know. I’d be as happy to help as to pass the reigns.\n
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      A gracious community member has added[ some of the resources](https://lemmy.world/post/66717) from the Reddit sub.\n
      \n
      ---\n
      \n
      (I tried to grab all of the links from it, please let me know if I missed any)\n
      \n
      &lt;Wiki from r/espresso&gt;\n
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      Links\n
      \n
      [Google Sheets List of Espresso Machines](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vJv2AGJ1ZSm1TSdoixfJADh5z1CAZjzqjmTz5vrKEj4/edit?usp=sharing)\n
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      [Espresso Aficionados - Discord](https://discord.gg/espresso)\n
      \n
      [Espresso Aficionados - Wiki](https://espressoaf.com/) (as of May 2023, this is the most up-to-date resource for machine recommendations and it has a bunch of detailed guides for how to dial in espresso, puck prep &amp; troubleshooting, and more advanced techniques!)\n
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      Espresso 101 Espresso starts with the coffee bean. Fresher is better. As u/Beans_McGhee says, “The beans really need to be roasted within the month you use them for perfect espresso.” Store-bought beans are fine, really—but part of the “fun” of espresso is trying different beans.\n
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      You grind your coffee beans using a grinder. This sub has lots of opinions on grinders.\n
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      The amount of ground coffee you use is called the dose. So when u/SingularLattice says, “Make sure you have the right dose for your basket”, that’s what he means.\n
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      A basket is the little metal cup that goes in your portafilter—that’s the metal thing with a handle on it. Espresso machines often come with 4 baskets: a single and a double in both unpressurized and pressurized. Doubles are the larger ones; pressurized variants are a different shape and may say “dual wall” on the bottom.\n
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      You would use dual-wall if you are using pre-ground coffee. Almost everyone will make (“pull”) double shots—when you get into weights and times, it’s all based on a double. So you should likely use the unpressurized (single wall) double basket.\n
      \n
      Advanced practitioners will dose by weight. Typically, you’d want ~7g for a single shot and ~18g for a double shot. Automatic grinders may dose by time: this will get you “close enough”. Thus, the “single” dose will be around 7g and the “double” will be around 18g. (You can fine-tune these amounts—more on that later.)\n
      \n
      Coffee grounds are light and fluffy, but you want them to be compact for espresso, so you tamp them (with your tamper). Advanced practitioners will calibrate their tamping pressure (e.g., with spring-loaded tampers)—don’t worry about that. Just give it a reasonable amount of force. If you’re putting your whole body weight on your tamper, that’s too much.\n
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      You will get a feel for the right amount of force. You can also look at the level of the grounds in the basket. Use shape of your tamper or other tool to estimate how much space should be between your (tamped) grounds and the top of the basket.\n
      \n
      As u/SingularLattice says, “You need to tamp FLAT, not hard. So long as it’s firm, you’re good.”\n
      \n
      At the advanced level, preparing espresso is all about ratios, namely weight and time. Generally, you want a 2:1 ratio in about 30 seconds. The 2:1 ratio means the ratio of your dose (i.e., ~18g) to the resulting espresso (i.e., ~36g). The process of brewing espresso is called extraction.\n
      \n
      Many espresso machines will do this for you! When you press the double shot button, it will dispense enough water to make the “right” amount of espresso… presuming you’re using the right basket and the right dose! With such machines (e.g., the Breville Barista Express, or BBE), what you should do is watch the pressure gauge. It should be in the “espresso range”. (Advanced practitioners will measure pressure in bars—you want ~9 bars in an ideal world.)\n
      \n
      If the pressure is low, you either need more grounds (higher dose)—which you can get by adjusting the grind amount—or a finer grind—which you can get by adjusting grind size. You may also need to tamp harder, but typically this isn’t the problem.\n
      \n
      (If your pressure is too high, the inverse is true… but this doesn’t happen very often.)\n
      \n
      Every bean is different, and so needs different settings to produce a good result—in your case, to keep that pressure dial where you want it. The process of adjusting these different settings is called dialing in.\n
      \n
      Your goal here is a well-extracted shot. That’s all about how it tastes! Espresso should be sweet and balanced. If it’s sour, it’s under-extracted (to which you would grind more and/or finer); if it’s bitter or astringent, it’s over-extracted (to which you would do the opposite).\n
      \n
      Everyone here is adjusting all these variables (bean, pressure, grind size, dose, ratio, extraction time, and more) in search of the perfect shot!\n
      \n
      (Derived from this post by u/basseq.)\n
      \n
      What espresso machine should I buy? Great question, and a very common one. Generally, there are two key inputs:\n
      \n
      How much do you want to “tinker” with your espresso? Do you want to play with different variables, or just wake up to a good coffee?\n
      \n
      How much do you want to spend?\n
      \n
      Espresso can be a very expensive hobby, so the answer to the second question can you get to the best bang for your buck.\n
      \n
      Remember that espresso is not just the machine. The other notable expense is the grinder, which can be as much as—if not more expensive—than the machine itself. There’s also some key accessories (notably a scale) and the cost of good coffee itself ($15+/lb).\n
      \n
      Recommendations by Budget &lt;$500 – Bare Bones If you’re looking to step up from a Nespresso or just drink less Starbucks, start here. There are really two ways to go:\n
      \n
      Manual ($250–$300) – Flair Neo ($125) + 1Zpresso JX ($130).\n
      \n
      Automatic ($450–$500) – Breville Bambino ($350) + Baratza Encore ($170).\n
      \n
      The DeLonghi Dedica ($350) is also a solid choice. For grinders, you can also check out the Breville Dose Control ($150), or upgrade to the 1Zpresso J-Max ($230). The Sette 30 ($300) and Mignon Notte ($320) grinders are solid, but may put you above $500.\n
      \n
      If you’re really looking to do espresso on the cheap, forego the grinder and work with pressurized portafilters on the Neo or Bambino. Many of us started with things like the DeLonghi EC155 ($100), but it’s hard to recommend.\n
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      Keep in mind that the espresso you get in a cafe was ground on a grinder that cost around $2000 and brewed on a machine that cost at least $15,000. You can’t shrink all of that into a sub $300 setup without a huge loss of quality. –u/MyCatsNameIsBernie\n
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      $500–900 – Entry Level If you think you’re “serious” about espresso, this may be a better entry point than above, which you might outgrow sooner than later. There are two common choices here:\n
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      All-In-One – Breville Barista Express ($750) or Pro ($850). While the community sees the built-in grinder as the weak spot (no upgrade path), and long-term reliability can be spotty, it an easy and popular entry point into the prosumer market.\n
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      Separate Setup ($800–900) – Gaggia Classic Pro ($500) + Baratza Sette 270 ($400) – The Gaggia is a classic and time-tested, with lots of options in the used market.\n
      \n
      Something like a Bambino Plus ($500) or Lelit Anna ($570) might also work. There are a lot of good grinders in this range: the DF64 ($400), Eureka Mignon Silenzio ($470), Baratza Vario ($480), and Rancilio Rocky ($430) are all well-regarded.\n
      \n
      If you’re strapped for cash, the r/espresso guidance is to prioritize the grinder. Better to run a cheaper machine (Bambino/Dedica) with a nicer grinder than the other way around.\n
      \n
      $900–$1,500 – The Standard The endgame for many people, this range is probably the “sweet spot” for great espresso without going over the deep-end.\n
      \n
      The r/espresso Standard – Rancilio Silvia ($850) + Niche Zero ($680) – The Silvia is a classic, moddable, and can be found used. For this price range, the alternate choice might be something like a Lelit Glenda ($900), or pairing a Gaggia with a nicer grinder. For grinders, ECM and Profitec both have offerings ($550), Baratza Vario W+ ($600), Eureka Mignon Specialita ($700), or any of the ones in the previous category. You can start mixing and matching machines and features and specs.\n
      \n
      $1,500–3,000 – Prosumer We’re getting heavily into the “prosumer” market now, and there are less common machine+grinder pairings, so we’ll start looking at them separately.\n
      \n
      Machines – Profitec Pro ($1,800), ECM Classika ($1,600), Lelit Elizabeth ($1,700), Rocket Appartamento ($1,700). The land of shiny chrome and lots of knobs. The Breville Dual Boiler ($1,600) is in this range too.\n
      \n
      Grinders – Mazzer Mini ($800), Mahlkonig X54 ($750), Eureka Oro ($800).\n
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      Hoping to mirror the great community of r/espresso.\n
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      \n
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      \n
      If any of the original mods, or anyone else who loves espresso, would like to take control or help mod, please let me know. I’d be as happy to help as to pass the reigns.\n
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      &lt;Wiki from r/espresso&gt;\n
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      Links\n
      \n
      [Google Sheets List of Espresso Machines](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vJv2AGJ1ZSm1TSdoixfJADh5z1CAZjzqjmTz5vrKEj4/edit?usp=sharing)\n
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      [Espresso Aficionados - Discord](https://discord.gg/espresso)\n
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      [Espresso Aficionados - Wiki](https://espressoaf.com/) (as of May 2023, this is the most up-to-date resource for machine recommendations and it has a bunch of detailed guides for how to dial in espresso, puck prep &amp; troubleshooting, and more advanced techniques!)\n
      \n
      Espresso 101 Espresso starts with the coffee bean. Fresher is better. As u/Beans_McGhee says, “The beans really need to be roasted within the month you use them for perfect espresso.” Store-bought beans are fine, really—but part of the “fun” of espresso is trying different beans.\n
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      \n
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      \n
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      \n
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      \n
      At the advanced level, preparing espresso is all about ratios, namely weight and time. Generally, you want a 2:1 ratio in about 30 seconds. The 2:1 ratio means the ratio of your dose (i.e., ~18g) to the resulting espresso (i.e., ~36g). The process of brewing espresso is called extraction.\n
      \n
      Many espresso machines will do this for you! When you press the double shot button, it will dispense enough water to make the “right” amount of espresso… presuming you’re using the right basket and the right dose! With such machines (e.g., the Breville Barista Express, or BBE), what you should do is watch the pressure gauge. It should be in the “espresso range”. (Advanced practitioners will measure pressure in bars—you want ~9 bars in an ideal world.)\n
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      \n
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      \n
      Every bean is different, and so needs different settings to produce a good result—in your case, to keep that pressure dial where you want it. The process of adjusting these different settings is called dialing in.\n
      \n
      Your goal here is a well-extracted shot. That’s all about how it tastes! Espresso should be sweet and balanced. If it’s sour, it’s under-extracted (to which you would grind more and/or finer); if it’s bitter or astringent, it’s over-extracted (to which you would do the opposite).\n
      \n
      Everyone here is adjusting all these variables (bean, pressure, grind size, dose, ratio, extraction time, and more) in search of the perfect shot!\n
      \n
      (Derived from this post by u/basseq.)\n
      \n
      What espresso machine should I buy? Great question, and a very common one. Generally, there are two key inputs:\n
      \n
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      \n
      Recommendations by Budget &lt;$500 – Bare Bones If you’re looking to step up from a Nespresso or just drink less Starbucks, start here. There are really two ways to go:\n
      \n
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      \n
      Automatic ($450–$500) – Breville Bambino ($350) + Baratza Encore ($170).\n
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      The DeLonghi Dedica ($350) is also a solid choice. For grinders, you can also check out the Breville Dose Control ($150), or upgrade to the 1Zpresso J-Max ($230). The Sette 30 ($300) and Mignon Notte ($320) grinders are solid, but may put you above $500.\n
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      If you’re really looking to do espresso on the cheap, forego the grinder and work with pressurized portafilters on the Neo or Bambino. Many of us started with things like the DeLonghi EC155 ($100), but it’s hard to recommend.\n
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      Keep in mind that the espresso you get in a cafe was ground on a grinder that cost around $2000 and brewed on a machine that cost at least $15,000. You can’t shrink all of that into a sub $300 setup without a huge loss of quality. –u/MyCatsNameIsBernie\n
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      Grinders – Mazzer Mini ($800), Mahlkonig X54 ($750), Eureka Oro ($800).\n
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        \n
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        \n
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        \n
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        - Basically, don’t be a dick.\n
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        \n
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        \n
        Espresso 101 Espresso starts with the coffee bean. Fresher is better. As u/Beans_McGhee says, “The beans really need to be roasted within the month you use them for perfect espresso.” Store-bought beans are fine, really—but part of the “fun” of espresso is trying different beans.\n
        \n
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        \n
        As u/SingularLattice says, “You need to tamp FLAT, not hard. So long as it’s firm, you’re good.”\n
        \n
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        \n
        Your goal here is a well-extracted shot. That’s all about how it tastes! Espresso should be sweet and balanced. If it’s sour, it’s under-extracted (to which you would grind more and/or finer); if it’s bitter or astringent, it’s over-extracted (to which you would do the opposite).\n
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        \n
        (Derived from this post by u/basseq.)\n
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        What espresso machine should I buy? Great question, and a very common one. Generally, there are two key inputs:\n
        \n
        How much do you want to “tinker” with your espresso? Do you want to play with different variables, or just wake up to a good coffee?\n
        \n
        How much do you want to spend?\n
        \n
        Espresso can be a very expensive hobby, so the answer to the second question can you get to the best bang for your buck.\n
        \n
        Remember that espresso is not just the machine. The other notable expense is the grinder, which can be as much as—if not more expensive—than the machine itself. There’s also some key accessories (notably a scale) and the cost of good coffee itself ($15+/lb).\n
        \n
        Recommendations by Budget &lt;$500 – Bare Bones If you’re looking to step up from a Nespresso or just drink less Starbucks, start here. There are really two ways to go:\n
        \n
        Manual ($250–$300) – Flair Neo ($125) + 1Zpresso JX ($130).\n
        \n
        Automatic ($450–$500) – Breville Bambino ($350) + Baratza Encore ($170).\n
        \n
        The DeLonghi Dedica ($350) is also a solid choice. For grinders, you can also check out the Breville Dose Control ($150), or upgrade to the 1Zpresso J-Max ($230). The Sette 30 ($300) and Mignon Notte ($320) grinders are solid, but may put you above $500.\n
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        If you’re really looking to do espresso on the cheap, forego the grinder and work with pressurized portafilters on the Neo or Bambino. Many of us started with things like the DeLonghi EC155 ($100), but it’s hard to recommend.\n
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        Keep in mind that the espresso you get in a cafe was ground on a grinder that cost around $2000 and brewed on a machine that cost at least $15,000. You can’t shrink all of that into a sub $300 setup without a huge loss of quality. –u/MyCatsNameIsBernie\n
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        \n
        All-In-One – Breville Barista Express ($750) or Pro ($850). While the community sees the built-in grinder as the weak spot (no upgrade path), and long-term reliability can be spotty, it an easy and popular entry point into the prosumer market.\n
        \n
        Separate Setup ($800–900) – Gaggia Classic Pro ($500) + Baratza Sette 270 ($400) – The Gaggia is a classic and time-tested, with lots of options in the used market.\n
        \n
        Something like a Bambino Plus ($500) or Lelit Anna ($570) might also work. There are a lot of good grinders in this range: the DF64 ($400), Eureka Mignon Silenzio ($470), Baratza Vario ($480), and Rancilio Rocky ($430) are all well-regarded.\n
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        If you’re strapped for cash, the r/espresso guidance is to prioritize the grinder. Better to run a cheaper machine (Bambino/Dedica) with a nicer grinder than the other way around.\n
        \n
        $900–$1,500 – The Standard The endgame for many people, this range is probably the “sweet spot” for great espresso without going over the deep-end.\n
        \n
        The r/espresso Standard – Rancilio Silvia ($850) + Niche Zero ($680) – The Silvia is a classic, moddable, and can be found used. For this price range, the alternate choice might be something like a Lelit Glenda ($900), or pairing a Gaggia with a nicer grinder. For grinders, ECM and Profitec both have offerings ($550), Baratza Vario W+ ($600), Eureka Mignon Specialita ($700), or any of the ones in the previous category. You can start mixing and matching machines and features and specs.\n
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        $1,500–3,000 – Prosumer We’re getting heavily into the “prosumer” market now, and there are less common machine+grinder pairings, so we’ll start looking at them separately.\n
        \n
        Machines – Profitec Pro ($1,800), ECM Classika ($1,600), Lelit Elizabeth ($1,700), Rocket Appartamento ($1,700). The land of shiny chrome and lots of knobs. The Breville Dual Boiler ($1,600) is in this range too.\n
        \n
        Grinders – Mazzer Mini ($800), Mahlkonig X54 ($750), Eureka Oro ($800).\n
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        $3,000+ – Dream Machines From here, it’s dream machine land and the art of the possible. If you’re asking, “What should I buy,” you probably shouldn’t start here.\n
        \n
        Machines – Lelit Bianca ($2,900), ECM Synchronika ($3,200), Decent DE1 ($3,500), plus some offerings from Isomac, Rocket, Elektra, or Nuova Simonelli. You get into true “endgame” machines like La Marzocco Linea Mini ($5,900) or Slayer Single Group ($10,000).\n
        \n
        Grinders – Eureka Atom 75 ($1,400), Mahlkonig E65S ($2,300), KafaTek Monolith Flat ($2,500), Weber EG-1 ($3,700).
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        Strong, potent coffee news for strong, potent coffee lovers.\n
        ============================================================\n
        \n
        Hoping to mirror the great community of r/espresso.\n
        \n
        We are a kind and accepting community for those who love, want to love, are getting into, or are interested in espresso and espresso accessories.\n
        \n
        Rules\n
        -----\n
        \n
        I didn’t think we needed this section on Lemmy, but…\n
        \n
        - All of the rules of this instance.\n
        - Be nice.\n
        - Be respectful.\n
        - No trolling.\n
        - Basically, don’t be a dick.\n
        \n
        (No exceptions)\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        Resources\n
        ---------\n
        \n
        Here is the [main resource](https://www.home-barista.com/resources.html) from the same sub, since it’s amazing.\n
        \n
        If any of the original mods, or anyone else who loves espresso, would like to take control or help mod, please let me know. I’d be as happy to help as to pass the reigns.\n
        \n
        A gracious community member has added[ some of the resources](https://lemmy.world/post/66717) from the Reddit sub.\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        (I tried to grab all of the links from it, please let me know if I missed any)\n
        \n
        &lt;Wiki from r/espresso&gt;\n
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        Links\n
        \n
        [Google Sheets List of Espresso Machines](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vJv2AGJ1ZSm1TSdoixfJADh5z1CAZjzqjmTz5vrKEj4/edit?usp=sharing)\n
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        [Espresso Aficionados - Discord](https://discord.gg/espresso)\n
        \n
        [Espresso Aficionados - Wiki](https://espressoaf.com/) (as of May 2023, this is the most up-to-date resource for machine recommendations and it has a bunch of detailed guides for how to dial in espresso, puck prep &amp; troubleshooting, and more advanced techniques!)\n
        \n
        Espresso 101 Espresso starts with the coffee bean. Fresher is better. As u/Beans_McGhee says, “The beans really need to be roasted within the month you use them for perfect espresso.” Store-bought beans are fine, really—but part of the “fun” of espresso is trying different beans.\n
        \n
        You grind your coffee beans using a grinder. This sub has lots of opinions on grinders.\n
        \n
        The amount of ground coffee you use is called the dose. So when u/SingularLattice says, “Make sure you have the right dose for your basket”, that’s what he means.\n
        \n
        A basket is the little metal cup that goes in your portafilter—that’s the metal thing with a handle on it. Espresso machines often come with 4 baskets: a single and a double in both unpressurized and pressurized. Doubles are the larger ones; pressurized variants are a different shape and may say “dual wall” on the bottom.\n
        \n
        You would use dual-wall if you are using pre-ground coffee. Almost everyone will make (“pull”) double shots—when you get into weights and times, it’s all based on a double. So you should likely use the unpressurized (single wall) double basket.\n
        \n
        Advanced practitioners will dose by weight. Typically, you’d want ~7g for a single shot and ~18g for a double shot. Automatic grinders may dose by time: this will get you “close enough”. Thus, the “single” dose will be around 7g and the “double” will be around 18g. (You can fine-tune these amounts—more on that later.)\n
        \n
        Coffee grounds are light and fluffy, but you want them to be compact for espresso, so you tamp them (with your tamper). Advanced practitioners will calibrate their tamping pressure (e.g., with spring-loaded tampers)—don’t worry about that. Just give it a reasonable amount of force. If you’re putting your whole body weight on your tamper, that’s too much.\n
        \n
        You will get a feel for the right amount of force. You can also look at the level of the grounds in the basket. Use shape of your tamper or other tool to estimate how much space should be between your (tamped) grounds and the top of the basket.\n
        \n
        As u/SingularLattice says, “You need to tamp FLAT, not hard. So long as it’s firm, you’re good.”\n
        \n
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        \n
        Many espresso machines will do this for you! When you press the double shot button, it will dispense enough water to make the “right” amount of espresso… presuming you’re using the right basket and the right dose! With such machines (e.g., the Breville Barista Express, or BBE), what you should do is watch the pressure gauge. It should be in the “espresso range”. (Advanced practitioners will measure pressure in bars—you want ~9 bars in an ideal world.)\n
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        If the pressure is low, you either need more grounds (higher dose)—which you can get by adjusting the grind amount—or a finer grind—which you can get by adjusting grind size. You may also need to tamp harder, but typically this isn’t the problem.\n
        \n
        (If your pressure is too high, the inverse is true… but this doesn’t happen very often.)\n
        \n
        Every bean is different, and so needs different settings to produce a good result—in your case, to keep that pressure dial where you want it. The process of adjusting these different settings is called dialing in.\n
        \n
        Your goal here is a well-extracted shot. That’s all about how it tastes! Espresso should be sweet and balanced. If it’s sour, it’s under-extracted (to which you would grind more and/or finer); if it’s bitter or astringent, it’s over-extracted (to which you would do the opposite).\n
        \n
        Everyone here is adjusting all these variables (bean, pressure, grind size, dose, ratio, extraction time, and more) in search of the perfect shot!\n
        \n
        (Derived from this post by u/basseq.)\n
        \n
        What espresso machine should I buy? Great question, and a very common one. Generally, there are two key inputs:\n
        \n
        How much do you want to “tinker” with your espresso? Do you want to play with different variables, or just wake up to a good coffee?\n
        \n
        How much do you want to spend?\n
        \n
        Espresso can be a very expensive hobby, so the answer to the second question can you get to the best bang for your buck.\n
        \n
        Remember that espresso is not just the machine. The other notable expense is the grinder, which can be as much as—if not more expensive—than the machine itself. There’s also some key accessories (notably a scale) and the cost of good coffee itself ($15+/lb).\n
        \n
        Recommendations by Budget &lt;$500 – Bare Bones If you’re looking to step up from a Nespresso or just drink less Starbucks, start here. There are really two ways to go:\n
        \n
        Manual ($250–$300) – Flair Neo ($125) + 1Zpresso JX ($130).\n
        \n
        Automatic ($450–$500) – Breville Bambino ($350) + Baratza Encore ($170).\n
        \n
        The DeLonghi Dedica ($350) is also a solid choice. For grinders, you can also check out the Breville Dose Control ($150), or upgrade to the 1Zpresso J-Max ($230). The Sette 30 ($300) and Mignon Notte ($320) grinders are solid, but may put you above $500.\n
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        If you’re really looking to do espresso on the cheap, forego the grinder and work with pressurized portafilters on the Neo or Bambino. Many of us started with things like the DeLonghi EC155 ($100), but it’s hard to recommend.\n
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        Keep in mind that the espresso you get in a cafe was ground on a grinder that cost around $2000 and brewed on a machine that cost at least $15,000. You can’t shrink all of that into a sub $300 setup without a huge loss of quality. –u/MyCatsNameIsBernie\n
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        $500–900 – Entry Level If you think you’re “serious” about espresso, this may be a better entry point than above, which you might outgrow sooner than later. There are two common choices here:\n
        \n
        All-In-One – Breville Barista Express ($750) or Pro ($850). While the community sees the built-in grinder as the weak spot (no upgrade path), and long-term reliability can be spotty, it an easy and popular entry point into the prosumer market.\n
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        Separate Setup ($800–900) – Gaggia Classic Pro ($500) + Baratza Sette 270 ($400) – The Gaggia is a classic and time-tested, with lots of options in the used market.\n
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        Something like a Bambino Plus ($500) or Lelit Anna ($570) might also work. There are a lot of good grinders in this range: the DF64 ($400), Eureka Mignon Silenzio ($470), Baratza Vario ($480), and Rancilio Rocky ($430) are all well-regarded.\n
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        If you’re strapped for cash, the r/espresso guidance is to prioritize the grinder. Better to run a cheaper machine (Bambino/Dedica) with a nicer grinder than the other way around.\n
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        $900–$1,500 – The Standard The endgame for many people, this range is probably the “sweet spot” for great espresso without going over the deep-end.\n
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        The r/espresso Standard – Rancilio Silvia ($850) + Niche Zero ($680) – The Silvia is a classic, moddable, and can be found used. For this price range, the alternate choice might be something like a Lelit Glenda ($900), or pairing a Gaggia with a nicer grinder. For grinders, ECM and Profitec both have offerings ($550), Baratza Vario W+ ($600), Eureka Mignon Specialita ($700), or any of the ones in the previous category. You can start mixing and matching machines and features and specs.\n
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        $1,500–3,000 – Prosumer We’re getting heavily into the “prosumer” market now, and there are less common machine+grinder pairings, so we’ll start looking at them separately.\n
        \n
        Machines – Profitec Pro ($1,800), ECM Classika ($1,600), Lelit Elizabeth ($1,700), Rocket Appartamento ($1,700). The land of shiny chrome and lots of knobs. The Breville Dual Boiler ($1,600) is in this range too.\n
        \n
        Grinders – Mazzer Mini ($800), Mahlkonig X54 ($750), Eureka Oro ($800).\n
        \n
        $3,000+ – Dream Machines From here, it’s dream machine land and the art of the possible. If you’re asking, “What should I buy,” you probably shouldn’t start here.\n
        \n
        Machines – Lelit Bianca ($2,900), ECM Synchronika ($3,200), Decent DE1 ($3,500), plus some offerings from Isomac, Rocket, Elektra, or Nuova Simonelli. You get into true “endgame” machines like La Marzocco Linea Mini ($5,900) or Slayer Single Group ($10,000).\n
        \n
        Grinders – Eureka Atom 75 ($1,400), Mahlkonig E65S ($2,300), KafaTek Monolith Flat ($2,500), Weber EG-1 ($3,700).
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        Strong, potent coffee news for strong, potent coffee lovers.\n
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        Hoping to mirror the great community of r/espresso.\n
        \n
        We are a kind and accepting community for those who love, want to love, are getting into, or are interested in espresso and espresso accessories.\n
        \n
        Rules\n
        -----\n
        \n
        I didn’t think we needed this section on Lemmy, but…\n
        \n
        - All of the rules of this instance.\n
        - Be nice.\n
        - Be respectful.\n
        - No trolling.\n
        - Basically, don’t be a dick.\n
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        (No exceptions)\n
        \n
        ---\n
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        Resources\n
        ---------\n
        \n
        Here is the [main resource](https://www.home-barista.com/resources.html) from the same sub, since it’s amazing.\n
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        If any of the original mods, or anyone else who loves espresso, would like to take control or help mod, please let me know. I’d be as happy to help as to pass the reigns.\n
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        A gracious community member has added[ some of the resources](https://lemmy.world/post/66717) from the Reddit sub.\n
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        ---\n
        \n
        (I tried to grab all of the links from it, please let me know if I missed any)\n
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        &lt;Wiki from r/espresso&gt;\n
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        Links\n
        \n
        [Google Sheets List of Espresso Machines](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vJv2AGJ1ZSm1TSdoixfJADh5z1CAZjzqjmTz5vrKEj4/edit?usp=sharing)\n
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        [Espresso Aficionados - Discord](https://discord.gg/espresso)\n
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        [Espresso Aficionados - Wiki](https://espressoaf.com/) (as of May 2023, this is the most up-to-date resource for machine recommendations and it has a bunch of detailed guides for how to dial in espresso, puck prep &amp; troubleshooting, and more advanced techniques!)\n
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        Espresso 101 Espresso starts with the coffee bean. Fresher is better. As u/Beans_McGhee says, “The beans really need to be roasted within the month you use them for perfect espresso.” Store-bought beans are fine, really—but part of the “fun” of espresso is trying different beans.\n
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        Many espresso machines will do this for you! When you press the double shot button, it will dispense enough water to make the “right” amount of espresso… presuming you’re using the right basket and the right dose! With such machines (e.g., the Breville Barista Express, or BBE), what you should do is watch the pressure gauge. It should be in the “espresso range”. (Advanced practitioners will measure pressure in bars—you want ~9 bars in an ideal world.)\n
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        Your goal here is a well-extracted shot. That’s all about how it tastes! Espresso should be sweet and balanced. If it’s sour, it’s under-extracted (to which you would grind more and/or finer); if it’s bitter or astringent, it’s over-extracted (to which you would do the opposite).\n
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        Everyone here is adjusting all these variables (bean, pressure, grind size, dose, ratio, extraction time, and more) in search of the perfect shot!\n
        \n
        (Derived from this post by u/basseq.)\n
        \n
        What espresso machine should I buy? Great question, and a very common one. Generally, there are two key inputs:\n
        \n
        How much do you want to “tinker” with your espresso? Do you want to play with different variables, or just wake up to a good coffee?\n
        \n
        How much do you want to spend?\n
        \n
        Espresso can be a very expensive hobby, so the answer to the second question can you get to the best bang for your buck.\n
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        Remember that espresso is not just the machine. The other notable expense is the grinder, which can be as much as—if not more expensive—than the machine itself. There’s also some key accessories (notably a scale) and the cost of good coffee itself ($15+/lb).\n
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        Recommendations by Budget &lt;$500 – Bare Bones If you’re looking to step up from a Nespresso or just drink less Starbucks, start here. There are really two ways to go:\n
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        Manual ($250–$300) – Flair Neo ($125) + 1Zpresso JX ($130).\n
        \n
        Automatic ($450–$500) – Breville Bambino ($350) + Baratza Encore ($170).\n
        \n
        The DeLonghi Dedica ($350) is also a solid choice. For grinders, you can also check out the Breville Dose Control ($150), or upgrade to the 1Zpresso J-Max ($230). The Sette 30 ($300) and Mignon Notte ($320) grinders are solid, but may put you above $500.\n
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        If you’re really looking to do espresso on the cheap, forego the grinder and work with pressurized portafilters on the Neo or Bambino. Many of us started with things like the DeLonghi EC155 ($100), but it’s hard to recommend.\n
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        Keep in mind that the espresso you get in a cafe was ground on a grinder that cost around $2000 and brewed on a machine that cost at least $15,000. You can’t shrink all of that into a sub $300 setup without a huge loss of quality. –u/MyCatsNameIsBernie\n
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        $500–900 – Entry Level If you think you’re “serious” about espresso, this may be a better entry point than above, which you might outgrow sooner than later. There are two common choices here:\n
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        All-In-One – Breville Barista Express ($750) or Pro ($850). While the community sees the built-in grinder as the weak spot (no upgrade path), and long-term reliability can be spotty, it an easy and popular entry point into the prosumer market.\n
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        Separate Setup ($800–900) – Gaggia Classic Pro ($500) + Baratza Sette 270 ($400) – The Gaggia is a classic and time-tested, with lots of options in the used market.\n
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        Something like a Bambino Plus ($500) or Lelit Anna ($570) might also work. There are a lot of good grinders in this range: the DF64 ($400), Eureka Mignon Silenzio ($470), Baratza Vario ($480), and Rancilio Rocky ($430) are all well-regarded.\n
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        If you’re strapped for cash, the r/espresso guidance is to prioritize the grinder. Better to run a cheaper machine (Bambino/Dedica) with a nicer grinder than the other way around.\n
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        $900–$1,500 – The Standard The endgame for many people, this range is probably the “sweet spot” for great espresso without going over the deep-end.\n
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        The r/espresso Standard – Rancilio Silvia ($850) + Niche Zero ($680) – The Silvia is a classic, moddable, and can be found used. For this price range, the alternate choice might be something like a Lelit Glenda ($900), or pairing a Gaggia with a nicer grinder. For grinders, ECM and Profitec both have offerings ($550), Baratza Vario W+ ($600), Eureka Mignon Specialita ($700), or any of the ones in the previous category. You can start mixing and matching machines and features and specs.\n
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        $1,500–3,000 – Prosumer We’re getting heavily into the “prosumer” market now, and there are less common machine+grinder pairings, so we’ll start looking at them separately.\n
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        Machines – Profitec Pro ($1,800), ECM Classika ($1,600), Lelit Elizabeth ($1,700), Rocket Appartamento ($1,700). The land of shiny chrome and lots of knobs. The Breville Dual Boiler ($1,600) is in this range too.\n
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        Grinders – Mazzer Mini ($800), Mahlkonig X54 ($750), Eureka Oro ($800).\n
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        $3,000+ – Dream Machines From here, it’s dream machine land and the art of the possible. If you’re asking, “What should I buy,” you probably shouldn’t start here.\n
        \n
        Machines – Lelit Bianca ($2,900), ECM Synchronika ($3,200), Decent DE1 ($3,500), plus some offerings from Isomac, Rocket, Elektra, or Nuova Simonelli. You get into true “endgame” machines like La Marzocco Linea Mini ($5,900) or Slayer Single Group ($10,000).\n
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        Grinders – Eureka Atom 75 ($1,400), Mahlkonig E65S ($2,300), KafaTek Monolith Flat ($2,500), Weber EG-1 ($3,700).
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        Strong, potent coffee news for strong, potent coffee lovers.\n
        ============================================================\n
        \n
        Hoping to mirror the great community of r/espresso.\n
        \n
        We are a kind and accepting community for those who love, want to love, are getting into, or are interested in espresso and espresso accessories.\n
        \n
        Rules\n
        -----\n
        \n
        I didn’t think we needed this section on Lemmy, but…\n
        \n
        - All of the rules of this instance.\n
        - Be nice.\n
        - Be respectful.\n
        - No trolling.\n
        - Basically, don’t be a dick.\n
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        (No exceptions)\n
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        ---\n
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        Resources\n
        ---------\n
        \n
        Here is the [main resource](https://www.home-barista.com/resources.html) from the same sub, since it’s amazing.\n
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        A gracious community member has added[ some of the resources](https://lemmy.world/post/66717) from the Reddit sub.\n
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        ---\n
        \n
        (I tried to grab all of the links from it, please let me know if I missed any)\n
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        &lt;Wiki from r/espresso&gt;\n
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        Links\n
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        [Google Sheets List of Espresso Machines](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vJv2AGJ1ZSm1TSdoixfJADh5z1CAZjzqjmTz5vrKEj4/edit?usp=sharing)\n
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        [Espresso Aficionados - Discord](https://discord.gg/espresso)\n
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        [Espresso Aficionados - Wiki](https://espressoaf.com/) (as of May 2023, this is the most up-to-date resource for machine recommendations and it has a bunch of detailed guides for how to dial in espresso, puck prep &amp; troubleshooting, and more advanced techniques!)\n
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        Advanced practitioners will dose by weight. Typically, you’d want ~7g for a single shot and ~18g for a double shot. Automatic grinders may dose by time: this will get you “close enough”. Thus, the “single” dose will be around 7g and the “double” will be around 18g. (You can fine-tune these amounts—more on that later.)\n
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        Coffee grounds are light and fluffy, but you want them to be compact for espresso, so you tamp them (with your tamper). Advanced practitioners will calibrate their tamping pressure (e.g., with spring-loaded tampers)—don’t worry about that. Just give it a reasonable amount of force. If you’re putting your whole body weight on your tamper, that’s too much.\n
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        Many espresso machines will do this for you! When you press the double shot button, it will dispense enough water to make the “right” amount of espresso… presuming you’re using the right basket and the right dose! With such machines (e.g., the Breville Barista Express, or BBE), what you should do is watch the pressure gauge. It should be in the “espresso range”. (Advanced practitioners will measure pressure in bars—you want ~9 bars in an ideal world.)\n
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        \n
        Every bean is different, and so needs different settings to produce a good result—in your case, to keep that pressure dial where you want it. The process of adjusting these different settings is called dialing in.\n
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        Your goal here is a well-extracted shot. That’s all about how it tastes! Espresso should be sweet and balanced. If it’s sour, it’s under-extracted (to which you would grind more and/or finer); if it’s bitter or astringent, it’s over-extracted (to which you would do the opposite).\n
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        Everyone here is adjusting all these variables (bean, pressure, grind size, dose, ratio, extraction time, and more) in search of the perfect shot!\n
        \n
        (Derived from this post by u/basseq.)\n
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        What espresso machine should I buy? Great question, and a very common one. Generally, there are two key inputs:\n
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        How much do you want to spend?\n
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        Espresso can be a very expensive hobby, so the answer to the second question can you get to the best bang for your buck.\n
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        Recommendations by Budget &lt;$500 – Bare Bones If you’re looking to step up from a Nespresso or just drink less Starbucks, start here. There are really two ways to go:\n
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        Manual ($250–$300) – Flair Neo ($125) + 1Zpresso JX ($130).\n
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        Automatic ($450–$500) – Breville Bambino ($350) + Baratza Encore ($170).\n
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        The DeLonghi Dedica ($350) is also a solid choice. For grinders, you can also check out the Breville Dose Control ($150), or upgrade to the 1Zpresso J-Max ($230). The Sette 30 ($300) and Mignon Notte ($320) grinders are solid, but may put you above $500.\n
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        If you’re really looking to do espresso on the cheap, forego the grinder and work with pressurized portafilters on the Neo or Bambino. Many of us started with things like the DeLonghi EC155 ($100), but it’s hard to recommend.\n
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        Keep in mind that the espresso you get in a cafe was ground on a grinder that cost around $2000 and brewed on a machine that cost at least $15,000. You can’t shrink all of that into a sub $300 setup without a huge loss of quality. –u/MyCatsNameIsBernie\n
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        $500–900 – Entry Level If you think you’re “serious” about espresso, this may be a better entry point than above, which you might outgrow sooner than later. There are two common choices here:\n
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        All-In-One – Breville Barista Express ($750) or Pro ($850). While the community sees the built-in grinder as the weak spot (no upgrade path), and long-term reliability can be spotty, it an easy and popular entry point into the prosumer market.\n
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        Separate Setup ($800–900) – Gaggia Classic Pro ($500) + Baratza Sette 270 ($400) – The Gaggia is a classic and time-tested, with lots of options in the used market.\n
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        Something like a Bambino Plus ($500) or Lelit Anna ($570) might also work. There are a lot of good grinders in this range: the DF64 ($400), Eureka Mignon Silenzio ($470), Baratza Vario ($480), and Rancilio Rocky ($430) are all well-regarded.\n
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        If you’re strapped for cash, the r/espresso guidance is to prioritize the grinder. Better to run a cheaper machine (Bambino/Dedica) with a nicer grinder than the other way around.\n
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        $900–$1,500 – The Standard The endgame for many people, this range is probably the “sweet spot” for great espresso without going over the deep-end.\n
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        The r/espresso Standard – Rancilio Silvia ($850) + Niche Zero ($680) – The Silvia is a classic, moddable, and can be found used. For this price range, the alternate choice might be something like a Lelit Glenda ($900), or pairing a Gaggia with a nicer grinder. For grinders, ECM and Profitec both have offerings ($550), Baratza Vario W+ ($600), Eureka Mignon Specialita ($700), or any of the ones in the previous category. You can start mixing and matching machines and features and specs.\n
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        $1,500–3,000 – Prosumer We’re getting heavily into the “prosumer” market now, and there are less common machine+grinder pairings, so we’ll start looking at them separately.\n
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        Machines – Profitec Pro ($1,800), ECM Classika ($1,600), Lelit Elizabeth ($1,700), Rocket Appartamento ($1,700). The land of shiny chrome and lots of knobs. The Breville Dual Boiler ($1,600) is in this range too.\n
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        Grinders – Mazzer Mini ($800), Mahlkonig X54 ($750), Eureka Oro ($800).\n
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        $3,000+ – Dream Machines From here, it’s dream machine land and the art of the possible. If you’re asking, “What should I buy,” you probably shouldn’t start here.\n
        \n
        Machines – Lelit Bianca ($2,900), ECM Synchronika ($3,200), Decent DE1 ($3,500), plus some offerings from Isomac, Rocket, Elektra, or Nuova Simonelli. You get into true “endgame” machines like La Marzocco Linea Mini ($5,900) or Slayer Single Group ($10,000).\n
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        Grinders – Eureka Atom 75 ($1,400), Mahlkonig E65S ($2,300), KafaTek Monolith Flat ($2,500), Weber EG-1 ($3,700).
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  +settingsKey: "KBIN_SUB_CHANNEL_MAGAZINES"
  +defaultValue: false
  +reloadRequired: true
}
user_settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\UserSettingsRowSwitchComponent 12.0 MiB 0.19 ms
Input props 
[
  "label" => "Show subscribed domains"
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_SUB_CHANNEL_DOMAINS"
]
Attributes 
[]
Component 
App\Twig\Components\UserSettingsRowSwitchComponent {#8676
  +label: "Show subscribed domains"
  +help: ""
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_SUB_CHANNEL_DOMAINS"
  +defaultValue: false
  +reloadRequired: true
}
settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent 12.0 MiB 0.21 ms
Input props 
[
  "label" => "Auto media preview"
  "help" => "Automatically expand media previews."
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_ENTRIES_SHOW_PREVIEW"
]
Attributes 
[]
Component 
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#8732
  +label: "Auto media preview"
  +help: "Automatically expand media previews."
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_ENTRIES_SHOW_PREVIEW"
  +defaultValue: false
  +reloadRequired: true
}
settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent 12.0 MiB 0.18 ms
Input props 
[
  "label" => "Compact view"
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_ENTRIES_COMPACT"
]
Attributes 
[]
Component 
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#8788
  +label: "Compact view"
  +help: ""
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_ENTRIES_COMPACT"
  +defaultValue: false
  +reloadRequired: true
}
settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent 12.0 MiB 0.18 ms
Input props 
[
  "label" => "Show users’ avatars"
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_ENTRIES_SHOW_USERS_AVATARS"
]
Attributes 
[]
Component 
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#8844
  +label: "Show users’ avatars"
  +help: ""
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_ENTRIES_SHOW_USERS_AVATARS"
  +defaultValue: false
  +reloadRequired: true
}
settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent 12.0 MiB 0.18 ms
Input props 
[
  "label" => "Show magazines’ icons"
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_ENTRIES_SHOW_MAGAZINES_ICONS"
]
Attributes 
[]
Component 
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#8900
  +label: "Show magazines’ icons"
  +help: ""
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_ENTRIES_SHOW_MAGAZINES_ICONS"
  +defaultValue: false
  +reloadRequired: true
}
settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent 12.0 MiB 0.24 ms
Input props 
[
  "label" => "Show thumbnails"
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_ENTRIES_SHOW_THUMBNAILS"
  "defaultValue" => true
]
Attributes 
[]
Component 
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#8956
  +label: "Show thumbnails"
  +help: ""
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_ENTRIES_SHOW_THUMBNAILS"
  +defaultValue: true
  +reloadRequired: true
}
settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent 12.0 MiB 0.19 ms
Input props 
[
  "label" => "Auto media preview"
  "help" => "Automatically expand media previews."
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_POSTS_SHOW_PREVIEW"
]
Attributes 
[]
Component 
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#9012
  +label: "Auto media preview"
  +help: "Automatically expand media previews."
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_POSTS_SHOW_PREVIEW"
  +defaultValue: false
  +reloadRequired: true
}
settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent 12.0 MiB 0.17 ms
Input props 
[
  "label" => "Show users’ avatars"
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_POSTS_SHOW_USERS_AVATARS"
  "defaultValue" => true
]
Attributes 
[]
Component 
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#9068
  +label: "Show users’ avatars"
  +help: ""
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_POSTS_SHOW_USERS_AVATARS"
  +defaultValue: true
  +reloadRequired: true
}
settings_row_enum App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowEnumComponent 12.0 MiB 0.22 ms
Input props 
[
  "label" => "Comment reply position"
  "help" => "Display the comment reply form either at the top or bottom of the page. When 'infinite scroll' is enabled the position will always appear at the top."
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_COMMENTS_REPLY_POSITION"
  "values" => [
    [
      "name" => "top"
      "value" => "TOP"
    ]
    [
      "name" => "bottom"
      "value" => "BOTTOM"
    ]
  ]
  "defaultValue" => "TOP"
]
Attributes 
[]
Component 
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowEnumComponent {#9124
  +label: "Comment reply position"
  +help: "Display the comment reply form either at the top or bottom of the page. When 'infinite scroll' is enabled the position will always appear at the top."
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_COMMENTS_REPLY_POSITION"
  +values: [
    [
      "name" => "top"
      "value" => "TOP"
    ]
    [
      "name" => "bottom"
      "value" => "BOTTOM"
    ]
  ]
  +defaultValue: "TOP"
  +reloadRequired: true
}
settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent 12.0 MiB 0.19 ms
Input props 
[
  "label" => "Show Comment Avatars"
  "help" => "Display/hide user avatars when viewing comments on a single thread or post."
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_COMMENTS_SHOW_USER_AVATAR"
  "defaultValue" => true
]
Attributes 
[]
Component 
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#9182
  +label: "Show Comment Avatars"
  +help: "Display/hide user avatars when viewing comments on a single thread or post."
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_COMMENTS_SHOW_USER_AVATAR"
  +defaultValue: true
  +reloadRequired: true
}
date App\Twig\Components\DateComponent 12.0 MiB 0.18 ms
Input props 
[
  "date" => DateTimeImmutable @1689031372 {#275
    date: 2023-07-11 01:22:52.0 +02:00
  }
]
Attributes 
[]
Component 
App\Twig\Components\DateComponent {#9255
  +date: DateTimeImmutable @1689031372 {#275
    date: 2023-07-11 01:22:52.0 +02:00
  }
}
related_magazines App\Twig\Components\RelatedMagazinesComponent 12.0 MiB 18.14 ms
Input props 
[
  "magazine" => null
  "tag" => null
]
Attributes 
[]
Component 
App\Twig\Components\RelatedMagazinesComponent {#9342
  +limit: 4
  +tag: null
  +magazine: null
  +type: "random"
  +title: "random_magazines"
  +refreshedRandom: false
  -repository: App\Repository\MagazineRepository {#1904 …}
  -cache: Symfony\Component\Cache\Adapter\TraceableTagAwareAdapter {#600 …}
  -twig: Twig\Environment {#1252 …}
  -requestStack: Symfony\Component\HttpFoundation\RequestStack {#1328 …}
}
active_users App\Twig\Components\ActiveUsersComponent 12.0 MiB 2.42 ms
Input props 
[
  "magazine" => null
]
Attributes 
[]
Component 
App\Twig\Components\ActiveUsersComponent {#9407
  +magazine: null
  -userRepository: App\Repository\UserRepository {#603 …}
  -cache: Symfony\Component\Cache\Adapter\TraceableTagAwareAdapter {#600 …}
  -twig: Twig\Environment {#1252 …}
  -requestStack: Symfony\Component\HttpFoundation\RequestStack {#1328 …}
}
related_categories App\Twig\Components\RelatedCategoriesComponent 12.0 MiB 33.34 ms
Input props 
[
  "magazine" => null
  "tag" => null
]
Attributes 
[]
Component 
App\Twig\Components\RelatedCategoriesComponent {#9466
  +limit: 4
  +tag: null
  +magazine: null
  +type: "random"
  +title: "random_categories"
  +refreshedRandom: false
  -repository: App\Repository\CategoryRepository {#9467 …}
  -cache: Symfony\Component\Cache\Adapter\TraceableTagAwareAdapter {#600 …}
  -twig: Twig\Environment {#1252 …}
  -requestStack: Symfony\Component\HttpFoundation\RequestStack {#1328 …}
}
related_posts App\Twig\Components\RelatedPostsComponent 12.0 MiB 2.44 ms
Input props 
[
  "magazine" => null
  "tag" => null
]
Attributes 
[]
Component 
App\Twig\Components\RelatedPostsComponent {#9536
  +limit: 4
  +tag: null
  +magazine: null
  +type: "random"
  +post: null
  +title: "random_posts"
  +refreshedRandom: false
  -repository: App\Repository\PostRepository {#1681 …}
  -cache: Symfony\Component\Cache\Adapter\TraceableTagAwareAdapter {#600 …}
  -twig: Twig\Environment {#1252 …}
  -requestStack: Symfony\Component\HttpFoundation\RequestStack {#1328 …}
  -mentionManager: App\Service\MentionManager {#1538 …}
}
related_entries App\Twig\Components\RelatedEntriesComponent 12.0 MiB 3.33 ms
Input props 
[
  "magazine" => null
  "tag" => null
]
Attributes 
[]
Component 
App\Twig\Components\RelatedEntriesComponent {#9605
  +limit: 4
  +tag: null
  +magazine: null
  +type: "random"
  +entry: null
  +title: "random_entries"
  +refreshedRandom: false
  -repository: App\Repository\EntryRepository {#1751 …}
  -cache: Symfony\Component\Cache\Adapter\TraceableTagAwareAdapter {#600 …}
  -twig: Twig\Environment {#1252 …}
  -requestStack: Symfony\Component\HttpFoundation\RequestStack {#1328 …}
  -mentionManager: App\Service\MentionManager {#1538 …}
}
support_us_block App\Twig\Components\SupportUsBlock 12.0 MiB 0.24 ms
Input props 
[]
Attributes 
[]
Component 
App\Twig\Components\SupportUsBlock {#9674
  +subject: ? App\Entity\Contracts\VotableInterface
  +url: ? string
  -twig: Twig\Environment {#1252 …}
  -cache: Symfony\Component\Cache\Adapter\TraceableTagAwareAdapter {#600 …}
  -requestStack: Symfony\Component\HttpFoundation\RequestStack {#1328 …}
  -partnerBlockRepository: App\Repository\PartnerBlockRepository {#9675 …}
}
featured_magazines App\Twig\Components\FeaturedMagazinesComponent 12.0 MiB 17.90 ms
Input props 
[
  "magazine" => null
]
Attributes 
[]
Component 
App\Twig\Components\FeaturedMagazinesComponent {#9767
  +magazine: null
  -twig: Twig\Environment {#1252 …}
  -repository: App\Repository\MagazineRepository {#1904 …}
}