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      - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
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      > \n
      > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
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      Archive links:\n
      \n
      - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
      - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
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        - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
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      > On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat. Unmentioned by Whittaker, this budget shortfall results in large part due to the US intelligence community, which lavishly financed Signal’s creation and maintenance over several years, severing its support for the app.\n
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      > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
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      - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
      - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
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      > OTF was launched in 2012 as a pilot program of Radio Free Asia (RFA), an asset of US Agency for Global Media (USAGM), which is funded by US Congress to the tune of over $1 billion annually. In August 2018, its then-CEO openly acknowledged the Agency’s “global priorities…reflect US national security and public diplomacy interests.”\n
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      > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
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    "By the way, the Register noted that Whisper Systems (along with Tor and several other privacy projects) received $450,000 from Radio Free Asia – which is pretty much an official State Department / CIA propaganda organ, isn’t it? How exactly does this work as a coherent national security strategy, when State is funding ‘privacy’ while NSA is funding eavesdropping? [opentechfund.org/…/otf2013annualreportfinal.pdf](https://www.opentechfund.org/sites/default/files/attachments/otf2013annualreportfinal.pdf)"\n
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    [www.schneier.com/blog/…/whatsapp_is_now.html](https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2014/11/whatsapp_is_now.html)\n
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      > Sums involved in developing, launching and running a messaging app used by countless people globally were nonetheless surely significant. The newly-published financial records indicate Signal’s operating costs for 2023 alone are $40 million, and projected to rise to $50 million by 2025. Rosenfeld boasted in 2018 that OWS “never [took] VC funding or sought investment” at any point, although mysteriously failed to mention millions were provided by Open Technology Fund (OTF).\n
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      > OTF was launched in 2012 as a pilot program of Radio Free Asia (RFA), an asset of US Agency for Global Media (USAGM), which is funded by US Congress to the tune of over $1 billion annually. In August 2018, its then-CEO openly acknowledged the Agency’s “global priorities…reflect US national security and public diplomacy interests.”\n
      > \n
      > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
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      - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
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    [www.schneier.com/blog/…/whatsapp_is_now.html](https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2014/11/whatsapp_is_now.html)\n
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      > On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat. Unmentioned by Whittaker, this budget shortfall results in large part due to the US intelligence community, which lavishly financed Signal’s creation and maintenance over several years, severing its support for the app.\n
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      - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
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    [www.schneier.com/blog/…/whatsapp_is_now.html](https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2014/11/whatsapp_is_now.html)\n
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      > OTF was launched in 2012 as a pilot program of Radio Free Asia (RFA), an asset of US Agency for Global Media (USAGM), which is funded by US Congress to the tune of over $1 billion annually. In August 2018, its then-CEO openly acknowledged the Agency’s “global priorities…reflect US national security and public diplomacy interests.”\n
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      > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
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      > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
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      Archive links:\n
      \n
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      - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
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      > On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat. Unmentioned by Whittaker, this budget shortfall results in large part due to the US intelligence community, which lavishly financed Signal’s creation and maintenance over several years, severing its support for the app.\n
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      > \n
      > OTF was launched in 2012 as a pilot program of Radio Free Asia (RFA), an asset of US Agency for Global Media (USAGM), which is funded by US Congress to the tune of over $1 billion annually. In August 2018, its then-CEO openly acknowledged the Agency’s “global priorities…reflect US national security and public diplomacy interests.”\n
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      > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
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      - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
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      - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
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      > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
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      - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
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      > On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat. Unmentioned by Whittaker, this budget shortfall results in large part due to the US intelligence community, which lavishly financed Signal’s creation and maintenance over several years, severing its support for the app.\n
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      > \n
      > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
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      - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
      - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
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        - [Lemmy.ml libre_culture](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_culture)\n
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        - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
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        - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
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      > \n
      > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
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      Archive links:\n
      \n
      - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
      - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
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    Sorry everyone, I did try searching the lemmyverse for any previous postings of this article using “signal” in the search feature on my instance, but it turned up nothing at the time.\n
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    Lemmy.world seems to have a handle on all the cross posts: [lemmy.world/post/9121235](https://lemmy.world/post/9121235)
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        - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
        - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
        - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
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        ### Chat rooms\n
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        - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
        - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
        \n
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      > On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat. Unmentioned by Whittaker, this budget shortfall results in large part due to the US intelligence community, which lavishly financed Signal’s creation and maintenance over several years, severing its support for the app.\n
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      > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
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      - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
      - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
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      > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
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      - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
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      > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
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      - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
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      > On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat. Unmentioned by Whittaker, this budget shortfall results in large part due to the US intelligence community, which lavishly financed Signal’s creation and maintenance over several years, severing its support for the app.\n
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      - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
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      > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
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    - it doesn’t mention the salient properties of Signal which actually make it particularly beneficial to US interests (keeping the communications of privacy-desiring people associated with their *phone numbers* while concentrating their [metadata](https://lemmy.ml/comment/5882433) on Amazon servers)
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      > On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat. Unmentioned by Whittaker, this budget shortfall results in large part due to the US intelligence community, which lavishly financed Signal’s creation and maintenance over several years, severing its support for the app.\n
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    - I don’t think Signal has actually received money from OTF (Radio Free Asia) since 2015 or so; if it needed any today it would likely get it from one of the less transparent US government internet freedom funding vehicles. There is no indication they are “facing collapse” beyond a blog post talking about their expenses and soliciting donations.\n
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    - It doesn’t mention that Brian Acton (billionaire WhatsApp founder) gave them a $50M interest-free loan when he co-founded the Signal Foundation with Moxie in 2018, and became its “executive chairman” or whatever. That “loan” had increased to over $100M by the end of 2018, and is presumably much larger today.\n
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    - it doesn’t mention the salient properties of Signal which actually make it particularly beneficial to US interests (keeping the communications of privacy-desiring people associated with their *phone numbers* while concentrating their [metadata](https://lemmy.ml/comment/5882433) on Amazon servers)
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      > On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat. Unmentioned by Whittaker, this budget shortfall results in large part due to the US intelligence community, which lavishly financed Signal’s creation and maintenance over several years, severing its support for the app.\n
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      > Never acknowledged in any serious way by the mainstream media, Signal’s origins as a US government asset are a matter of extensive public record, even if the scope and scale of the funding provided has until now been secret. The app, brainchild of shadowy tech guru ‘Moxie Marlinspike’ (real name Matthew Rosenfeld), was launched in 2013 by his now-defunct Open Whisper Systems (OWS). The company never published financial statements or disclosed the identities of its funders at any point during its operation.\n
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      > OTF was launched in 2012 as a pilot program of Radio Free Asia (RFA), an asset of US Agency for Global Media (USAGM), which is funded by US Congress to the tune of over $1 billion annually. In August 2018, its then-CEO openly acknowledged the Agency’s “global priorities…reflect US national security and public diplomacy interests.”\n
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      > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
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      Archive links:\n
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      - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
      - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
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    - it doesn’t mention the salient properties of Signal which actually make it particularly beneficial to US interests (keeping the communications of privacy-desiring people associated with their *phone numbers* while concentrating their [metadata](https://lemmy.ml/comment/5882433) on Amazon servers)
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