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First of all, I apologize for the lack of a “formal” schematic… I tried to draw one out, but got buried in the nuances of it :)\n
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That’s interesting, so you can flip the relays all you like without trouble as long as the 24DC supply isn’t connected? If that’s true then your problem presumably isn’t the typical inductive kick from the relay coil. It looks like your relay board has stuff on it which is presumably drivers and snubbers so let’s assume all of that is adequate to the job.\n
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First of all, I apologize for the lack of a “formal” schematic… I tried to draw one out, but got buried in the nuances of it :)\n
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Second, I’ve done enough research to have [some idea](https://hstech.ro/HC595/) of what my problem is: namely, I need a [decoupling capacitor](https://www.reddit.com/r/AskElectronics/comments/6ubdyt/need_some_quick_helpclarification_on_power_supply/) in the mix. Problem is, I’m new enough to this that I’m not 100% sure where to put it, nor what capacitance I should use.\n
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That’s interesting, so you can flip the relays all you like without trouble as long as the 24DC supply isn’t connected? If that’s true then your problem presumably isn’t the typical inductive kick from the relay coil. It looks like your relay board has stuff on it which is presumably drivers and snubbers so let’s assume all of that is adequate to the job.\n
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First of all, I apologize for the lack of a “formal” schematic… I tried to draw one out, but got buried in the nuances of it :)\n
\n
Second, I’ve done enough research to have [some idea](https://hstech.ro/HC595/) of what my problem is: namely, I need a [decoupling capacitor](https://www.reddit.com/r/AskElectronics/comments/6ubdyt/need_some_quick_helpclarification_on_power_supply/) in the mix. Problem is, I’m new enough to this that I’m not 100% sure where to put it, nor what capacitance I should use.\n
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First of all, I apologize for the lack of a “formal” schematic… I tried to draw one out, but got buried in the nuances of it :)\n
\n
Second, I’ve done enough research to have [some idea](https://hstech.ro/HC595/) of what my problem is: namely, I need a [decoupling capacitor](https://www.reddit.com/r/AskElectronics/comments/6ubdyt/need_some_quick_helpclarification_on_power_supply/) in the mix. Problem is, I’m new enough to this that I’m not 100% sure where to put it, nor what capacitance I should use.\n
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So the setup: -I’m using a Wemos(like) D1 Mini to drive 8 relays via an HC595 shift register -The D1 Mini microcontroller, HC595, and relay module are all powered by the same 5V DC and ground -The microcontroller addresses the shift register via 3.3VDC data pins -The relays power a water valve via a separate 24VDC power supply and transformer - plugged into the same AC outlet\n
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Any guesses as to where I need to put some capacitor(s)? Thanks!!
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That’s interesting, so you can flip the relays all you like without trouble as long as the 24DC supply isn’t connected? If that’s true then your problem presumably isn’t the typical inductive kick from the relay coil. It looks like your relay board has stuff on it which is presumably drivers and snubbers so let’s assume all of that is adequate to the job.\n
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So, if it’s inductive kick from the valve solenoid it’s being coupled all the way from there, back through the 24DC supply to the outlet, then forward through the USB supply to your shift register, which is impressive! But not implausible.\n
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- Small decoupling cap on your breadboard, say 0.1µF on the power supply rails, to keep your logic happy.\n
- Larger decoupling cap on your 24VDC rails (the bus on the left), just to eat any transients the snubber doesn’t deal with. Maybe 1-10µF or so?
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First of all, I apologize for the lack of a “formal” schematic… I tried to draw one out, but got buried in the nuances of it :)\n
\n
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\n
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First of all, I apologize for the lack of a “formal” schematic… I tried to draw one out, but got buried in the nuances of it :)\n
\n
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\n
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That’s interesting, so you can flip the relays all you like without trouble as long as the 24DC supply isn’t connected? If that’s true then your problem presumably isn’t the typical inductive kick from the relay coil. It looks like your relay board has stuff on it which is presumably drivers and snubbers so let’s assume all of that is adequate to the job.\n
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So, if it’s inductive kick from the valve solenoid it’s being coupled all the way from there, back through the 24DC supply to the outlet, then forward through the USB supply to your shift register, which is impressive! But not implausible.\n
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Anyway, three places I’d add some stuff:\n
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- Larger decoupling cap on your 24VDC rails (the bus on the left), just to eat any transients the snubber doesn’t deal with. Maybe 1-10µF or so?
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First of all, I apologize for the lack of a “formal” schematic… I tried to draw one out, but got buried in the nuances of it :)\n
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That’s interesting, so you can flip the relays all you like without trouble as long as the 24DC supply isn’t connected? If that’s true then your problem presumably isn’t the typical inductive kick from the relay coil. It looks like your relay board has stuff on it which is presumably drivers and snubbers so let’s assume all of that is adequate to the job.\n
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First of all, I apologize for the lack of a “formal” schematic… I tried to draw one out, but got buried in the nuances of it :)\n
\n
Second, I’ve done enough research to have [some idea](https://hstech.ro/HC595/) of what my problem is: namely, I need a [decoupling capacitor](https://www.reddit.com/r/AskElectronics/comments/6ubdyt/need_some_quick_helpclarification_on_power_supply/) in the mix. Problem is, I’m new enough to this that I’m not 100% sure where to put it, nor what capacitance I should use.\n
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\n
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First of all, I apologize for the lack of a “formal” schematic… I tried to draw one out, but got buried in the nuances of it :)\n
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Second, I’ve done enough research to have [some idea](https://hstech.ro/HC595/) of what my problem is: namely, I need a [decoupling capacitor](https://www.reddit.com/r/AskElectronics/comments/6ubdyt/need_some_quick_helpclarification_on_power_supply/) in the mix. Problem is, I’m new enough to this that I’m not 100% sure where to put it, nor what capacitance I should use.\n
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So the setup: -I’m using a Wemos(like) D1 Mini to drive 8 relays via an HC595 shift register -The D1 Mini microcontroller, HC595, and relay module are all powered by the same 5V DC and ground -The microcontroller addresses the shift register via 3.3VDC data pins -The relays power a water valve via a separate 24VDC power supply and transformer - plugged into the same AC outlet\n
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And the problem: everything works just fine UNTIL I actually add the 24VDC power load. Once that’s done, the results are very erratic… usually turning on the correct valve correctly, but rarely turning it off in the same way. As I mentioned, I intuitively suspect noise in the data caused by the sudden power to the valve… but it doesn’t make too much sense since everything is on different power supplies.\n
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That’s interesting, so you can flip the relays all you like without trouble as long as the 24DC supply isn’t connected? If that’s true then your problem presumably isn’t the typical inductive kick from the relay coil. It looks like your relay board has stuff on it which is presumably drivers and snubbers so let’s assume all of that is adequate to the job.\n
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So, if it’s inductive kick from the valve solenoid it’s being coupled all the way from there, back through the 24DC supply to the outlet, then forward through the USB supply to your shift register, which is impressive! But not implausible.\n
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- Small decoupling cap on your breadboard, say 0.1µF on the power supply rails, to keep your logic happy.\n
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It is quite corroded and even peeling, and suspect replacing the clip would be better than devising a work-around.\n
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Right to the point: On a BPI-R3, should connecting the UART debug pins directly to the appropriate pins on a DB9 USB serial adapter (rx->tx, tx->rx, gnd->gnd) work? Because I’m just getting a garbled mess in my serial console. I’ve tried all different baud rates. I’m using a high quality serial adapter (Keyspan Tripp Lite). I’ve tried on Linux and Windows. I assume I’m missing something stupid.\n
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Right to the point: On a BPI-R3, should connecting the UART debug pins directly to the appropriate pins on a DB9 USB serial adapter (rx->tx, tx->rx, gnd->gnd) work? Because I’m just getting a garbled mess in my serial console. I’ve tried all different baud rates. I’m using a high quality serial adapter (Keyspan Tripp Lite). I’ve tried on Linux and Windows. I assume I’m missing something stupid.\n
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Right to the point: On a BPI-R3, should connecting the UART debug pins directly to the appropriate pins on a DB9 USB serial adapter (rx->tx, tx->rx, gnd->gnd) work? Because I’m just getting a garbled mess in my serial console. I’ve tried all different baud rates. I’m using a high quality serial adapter (Keyspan Tripp Lite). I’ve tried on Linux and Windows. I assume I’m missing something stupid.\n
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In addition to the voltages being different between real-RS232 and "TTL"-serial, they're also swapped. On a DB9 you probably have something approximating RS232, where mark=-9V and space=+9V, but the debug header is likely mark=+3V and space=0V. So even if your inputs can handle a wide voltage range, the sense is inverted, which is why you'll get garble.\n
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(For example, when the line is idle it's at the 'mark' voltage and the receiver knows a character is incoming when it transitions to 'space' for one period (the start-bit). If mark and space are swapped, the receiver will see 'space' most of the time and only detect a character starting when there are some 'mark' bits in the middle of a transmitted character. It'll never actually synchronize correctly with the transmitter.)\n
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You can figure out what you've got with a multimeter and checking what the voltage is on the TX pin when it's idle.
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