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Security

Token

There is no security token.

Firewall

main Name
Security enabled
Stateless

Configuration

Key Value
provider security.user.provider.concrete.app_user_provider
context main
entry_point App\Security\KbinAuthenticator
user_checker App\Security\UserChecker
access_denied_handler (none)
access_denied_url (none)
authenticators
[
  "two_factor"
  "remember_me"
  "App\Security\KbinAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\FacebookAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\GoogleAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\GithubAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\KeycloakAuthenticator"
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Listeners

Listener Duration Response
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  -httpsPort: 443
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0.00 ms (none)
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\ContextListener {#706
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0.87 ms (none)
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\AuthenticatorManagerListener {#584
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0.00 ms (none)
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0.03 ms (none)
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0.00 ms (none)
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  -options: [
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  -csrfTokenManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Csrf\CsrfTokenManager {#1015 …}
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}
0.00 ms (none)

Authenticators

No authenticators have been recorded. Check previous profiles on your authentication endpoint.

Access Decision

affirmative Strategy
# Voter class
1
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2
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3
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4
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5
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6
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
7
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
8
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
9
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
10
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
11
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12
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
13
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
14
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Access decision log

# Result Attributes Object
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ACCESS ABSTAIN
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
ACCESS DENIED
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ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
2 DENIED moderate
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      \n
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      \n
      Distributions include the Linux kernel and supporting system software and libraries, many of which are provided by the GNU Project. Many Linux distributions use the word “Linux” in their name, but the Free Software Foundation uses the name GNU/Linux to emphasize the importance of GNU software, causing some controversy.\n
      \n
      ### Rules\n
      \n
      - Posts must be relevant to operating systems running the Linux kernel. GNU/Linux or otherwise.\n
      - No misinformation\n
      - No NSFW content\n
      - No hate speech, bigotry, etc\n
      \n
      ### Related Communities\n
      \n
      - [!opensource@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/opensource)\n
      - [!libre_culture@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_culture)\n
      - [!technology@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/technology)\n
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      \n
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    I have this same issue, but not for a TV. Just a normal Asus monitor. If I use my laptop built-in panel and the gaming monitor, it happens less. If I enable a third monitor, it happens nearly every time I try to log back in.\n
    \n
    Sleep/standby is disabled on mine cuz no distro I’ve found can work properly with it so it’s just turning the monitors back on really.\n
    \n
    It also happens exiting a game sometimes.\n
    \n
    I’ve found waiting it out doesn’t work, I have to fight through it to open display settings and disable one of the external monitors, then hit revert. Then it’s back to normal.\n
    \n
    Edit adding some info since our hardware is different: Lenovo legion slim Nvidia 4050 ryzen 5 Kubuntu 23.10
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ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
ACCESS DENIED
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
3 DENIED edit
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      From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia\n
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      Linux is a family of open source Unix-like operating systems based on the Linux kernel, an operating system kernel first released on September 17, 1991 by Linus Torvalds. Linux is typically packaged in a Linux distribution (or distro for short).\n
      \n
      Distributions include the Linux kernel and supporting system software and libraries, many of which are provided by the GNU Project. Many Linux distributions use the word “Linux” in their name, but the Free Software Foundation uses the name GNU/Linux to emphasize the importance of GNU software, causing some controversy.\n
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      \n
      ### Related Communities\n
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      - [!opensource@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/opensource)\n
      - [!libre_culture@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_culture)\n
      - [!technology@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/technology)\n
      - [!libre_hardware@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_hardware)\n
      \n
      Community icon by [Alpár-Etele Méder](https://www.iconfinder.com/pocike), licensed under [CC BY 3.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/)
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    I have this same issue, but not for a TV. Just a normal Asus monitor. If I use my laptop built-in panel and the gaming monitor, it happens less. If I enable a third monitor, it happens nearly every time I try to log back in.\n
    \n
    Sleep/standby is disabled on mine cuz no distro I’ve found can work properly with it so it’s just turning the monitors back on really.\n
    \n
    It also happens exiting a game sometimes.\n
    \n
    I’ve found waiting it out doesn’t work, I have to fight through it to open display settings and disable one of the external monitors, then hit revert. Then it’s back to normal.\n
    \n
    Edit adding some info since our hardware is different: Lenovo legion slim Nvidia 4050 ryzen 5 Kubuntu 23.10
    """
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ACCESS ABSTAIN
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ACCESS DENIED
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ACCESS ABSTAIN
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ACCESS ABSTAIN
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ACCESS ABSTAIN
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ACCESS ABSTAIN
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ACCESS ABSTAIN
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ACCESS ABSTAIN
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ACCESS ABSTAIN
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ACCESS ABSTAIN
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ACCESS ABSTAIN
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      \n
      Distributions include the Linux kernel and supporting system software and libraries, many of which are provided by the GNU Project. Many Linux distributions use the word “Linux” in their name, but the Free Software Foundation uses the name GNU/Linux to emphasize the importance of GNU software, causing some controversy.\n
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      - No misinformation\n
      - No NSFW content\n
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      \n
      ### Related Communities\n
      \n
      - [!opensource@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/opensource)\n
      - [!libre_culture@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_culture)\n
      - [!technology@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/technology)\n
      - [!libre_hardware@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_hardware)\n
      \n
      Community icon by [Alpár-Etele Méder](https://www.iconfinder.com/pocike), licensed under [CC BY 3.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/)
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    I have this same issue, but not for a TV. Just a normal Asus monitor. If I use my laptop built-in panel and the gaming monitor, it happens less. If I enable a third monitor, it happens nearly every time I try to log back in.\n
    \n
    Sleep/standby is disabled on mine cuz no distro I’ve found can work properly with it so it’s just turning the monitors back on really.\n
    \n
    It also happens exiting a game sometimes.\n
    \n
    I’ve found waiting it out doesn’t work, I have to fight through it to open display settings and disable one of the external monitors, then hit revert. Then it’s back to normal.\n
    \n
    Edit adding some info since our hardware is different: Lenovo legion slim Nvidia 4050 ryzen 5 Kubuntu 23.10
    """
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    Thx.\n
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    Um… I’m going to choose to phone a friend on this one…\n
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          I’m curious about this too.\n
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            > In addition, we’re going to develop the tools that give people choices other than the big three.\n
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            This sentence at the very end makes me very curious. Is this a hint for a Thunderbird mail service or something similar?\n
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          I’m curious about this too.\n
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          I’d be ecstatic if they did something here, but I’m not really clear on what a solution would look like. On top of them spreading thin as you mentioned\n
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          *edited ‘domain’ service to ‘hosting’ service
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            I’m curious about this too.\n
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            I’m curious about this too.\n
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              > In addition, we’re going to develop the tools that give people choices other than the big three.\n
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              This sentence at the very end makes me very curious. Is this a hint for a Thunderbird mail service or something similar?\n
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            I’m curious about this too.\n
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            I’d be ecstatic if they did something here, but I’m not really clear on what a solution would look like. On top of them spreading thin as you mentioned\n
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            *edited ‘domain’ service to ‘hosting’ service
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            > In addition, we’re going to develop the tools that give people choices other than the big three.\n
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          I’m curious about this too.\n
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          I’d be ecstatic if they did something here, but I’m not really clear on what a solution would look like. On top of them spreading thin as you mentioned\n
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          *edited ‘domain’ service to ‘hosting’ service
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          I’m curious about this too.\n
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    I use Mailcow and it works well. Easy to configure, and it uses Docker so it’s self-contained and very easy to move to a new server if you ever need to do that.\n
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    I’m using an SMTP relay for outbound emails, though. I didn’t want to have to deal with IP reputation issues, especially with Microsoft/Hotmail. I’m hosting my server on a VPS, and spammers in the same subnet can result in the entire subnet getting blocklisted. Configuring a relay is easy in Mailcow’s UI, and can be configured per domain.
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            > In addition, we’re going to develop the tools that give people choices other than the big three.\n
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          I’m curious about this too.\n
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    I edited the comment, I really meant hosting server, not domain.\n
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    I edited the comment, I really meant hosting server, not domain.\n
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        I’m curious about this too.\n
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    I edited the comment, I really meant hosting server, not domain.\n
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          I’m curious about this too.\n
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      I edited the comment, I really meant hosting server, not domain.\n
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            > In addition, we’re going to develop the tools that give people choices other than the big three.\n
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          I’m curious about this too.\n
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          *edited ‘domain’ service to ‘hosting’ service
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      I edited the comment, I really meant hosting server, not domain.\n
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              > In addition, we’re going to develop the tools that give people choices other than the big three.\n
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              This sentence at the very end makes me very curious. Is this a hint for a Thunderbird mail service or something similar?\n
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            I’m curious about this too.\n
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            A lot of self-hosted FOSS people draw the line at hosting their own mail servers. Even if Mozilla created a new domain hosting server for handling, the big three could still reject the traffic like they do for people hosting outside the three now, under the guise of spam filtering.\n
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            I’d be ecstatic if they did something here, but I’m not really clear on what a solution would look like. On top of them spreading thin as you mentioned\n
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            *edited ‘domain’ service to ‘hosting’ service
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        I edited the comment, I really meant hosting server, not domain.\n
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        Having a custom domain isn’t a big deal, it’s really where that domain is hosted that creates forwarding issues. Since the majority of email is handled by the ‘big three’, anything that’s hosted outside of that is often flagged as spam or is refused to be delivered. That’s allegedly because there are malicious senders also hosted on third party servers (and fair enough, there likely are), but this causes a bit of a potential monopoly that could easily be abused, and there’s obvious motivation to push people into a particular service for data collection.\n
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        Even if it doesn’t happen often, occasional failures can be a huge problem if you’re sending critical communication and it isn’t reaching target inboxes because of filtering. It’s enough of a headache that even most avid self-hosters tend to avoid it.
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    My understanding is that it’s a combination of correctly deploying authentication (DMARC, DKIM, and SPF) and the actual IP address of the server that can get you into trouble. If you incorrectly set up authentication, OR if a malicious sender spoofs you (likely because you didn’t set up auth correctly), it can get your IP blocklisted. And unless you’re monitoring if you’re blocklisted, you often don’t know that things aren’t getting delivered until someone tells you.\n
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              > In addition, we’re going to develop the tools that give people choices other than the big three.\n
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              This sentence at the very end makes me very curious. Is this a hint for a Thunderbird mail service or something similar?\n
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            I’m curious about this too.\n
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            A lot of self-hosted FOSS people draw the line at hosting their own mail servers. Even if Mozilla created a new domain hosting server for handling, the big three could still reject the traffic like they do for people hosting outside the three now, under the guise of spam filtering.\n
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            I’d be ecstatic if they did something here, but I’m not really clear on what a solution would look like. On top of them spreading thin as you mentioned\n
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        +body: "I have my own domain (even if hosted on a relatively small provider) and I don’t have that much of an issue tbh?"
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        I edited the comment, I really meant hosting server, not domain.\n
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        Having a custom domain isn’t a big deal, it’s really where that domain is hosted that creates forwarding issues. Since the majority of email is handled by the ‘big three’, anything that’s hosted outside of that is often flagged as spam or is refused to be delivered. That’s allegedly because there are malicious senders also hosted on third party servers (and fair enough, there likely are), but this causes a bit of a potential monopoly that could easily be abused, and there’s obvious motivation to push people into a particular service for data collection.\n
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        Even if it doesn’t happen often, occasional failures can be a huge problem if you’re sending critical communication and it isn’t reaching target inboxes because of filtering. It’s enough of a headache that even most avid self-hosters tend to avoid it.
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    My understanding is that it’s a combination of correctly deploying authentication (DMARC, DKIM, and SPF) and the actual IP address of the server that can get you into trouble. If you incorrectly set up authentication, OR if a malicious sender spoofs you (likely because you didn’t set up auth correctly), it can get your IP blocklisted. And unless you’re monitoring if you’re blocklisted, you often don’t know that things aren’t getting delivered until someone tells you.\n
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    And then you’re still kind of at the whim of the big players, because they could change or update their authentication standards, and if you’re not on top of it you can find yourself in the same boat, even if you’re doing everything else right.\n
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    It’s not impossible, it’s just a headache. But if i’m being honest, i’m a bit of a novice so it could be easier to a more trained network administrator.
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              > In addition, we’re going to develop the tools that give people choices other than the big three.\n
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              This sentence at the very end makes me very curious. Is this a hint for a Thunderbird mail service or something similar?\n
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            I’m curious about this too.\n
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            A lot of self-hosted FOSS people draw the line at hosting their own mail servers. Even if Mozilla created a new domain hosting server for handling, the big three could still reject the traffic like they do for people hosting outside the three now, under the guise of spam filtering.\n
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            I’d be ecstatic if they did something here, but I’m not really clear on what a solution would look like. On top of them spreading thin as you mentioned\n
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            *edited ‘domain’ service to ‘hosting’ service
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        I edited the comment, I really meant hosting server, not domain.\n
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    My understanding is that it’s a combination of correctly deploying authentication (DMARC, DKIM, and SPF) and the actual IP address of the server that can get you into trouble. If you incorrectly set up authentication, OR if a malicious sender spoofs you (likely because you didn’t set up auth correctly), it can get your IP blocklisted. And unless you’re monitoring if you’re blocklisted, you often don’t know that things aren’t getting delivered until someone tells you.\n
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