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Components

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165 Render Count
384 ms Render Time
14.0 MiB Memory Usage

Components

Name Metadata Render Count Render Time
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"App\Twig\Components\DateComponent"
components/date.html.twig
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entry_comment
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components/entry_comment.html.twig
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user_inline
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date_edited
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magazine_inline
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entry_inline
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components/entry_inline.html.twig
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user_avatar
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vote
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boost
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settings_row_switch
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user_settings_row_switch
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components/_user_settings_row_switch.html.twig
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settings_row_enum
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components/_settings_row_enum.html.twig
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user_actions
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components/user_actions.html.twig
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related_magazines
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active_users
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components/_cached.html.twig
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related_categories
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components/_cached.html.twig
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related_posts
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related_entries
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components/_cached.html.twig
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support_us_block
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components/_cached.html.twig
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featured_magazines
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components/_cached.html.twig
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          Community icon by [Alpár-Etele Méder](https://www.iconfinder.com/pocike), licensed under [CC BY 3.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/)
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        I have been having such a difficult time getting a 2018 Dell Latitude 7930 to run any Linux distro stably. Maybe there is something obvious I am missing or maybe it really is dying hardware that’s the root cause of the issue.\n
        \n
        The silly thing is I had a stable install of openSUSE Tumbleweed running for a few months but because I made some poor choices on disk partition when I installed it I was eventually backed into a corner where I had to wipe the SSD and install from scratch.\n
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        I since then have tried Tumbleweed again as well as Ubuntu, Mint, and finally Manjaro to no avail. The Debian based distros completely freeze at some point, either immediately upon login and loading the desktop or when running apt update. Tumbleweed gets a kernel panic within an hour or so, even though I changed kernel options to a previous known-good config. Now after quite a frustrating time installing Manjaro it freezes within an hour as well and the diagnostic light code indicates a CPU issue.\n
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        Strangely enough none of these issues are apparent when running from a LiveUSB, but occur on two different M.2 SATA SSDs with proper installs.\n
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        At this point I don’t really care which distro I use, as long as it doesn’t crash constantly. Does anyone have any suggestions on other things I can try?\n
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        Edit: seems to be solved with the kernel options I already mentioned. For whatever reason it didn’t work for the Tumbleweed reinstall but Manjaro has run for a couple days without crashing.\n
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        [wiki.archlinux.org/title/Intel_graphics#Crash/fre…](https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Intel_graphics#Crash/freeze_on_low_power_Intel_CPUs)
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          - [!technology@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/technology)\n
          - [!libre_hardware@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_hardware)\n
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          Community icon by [Alpár-Etele Méder](https://www.iconfinder.com/pocike), licensed under [CC BY 3.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/)
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        - No way to create multiple profile of the tablet configuration, so that artist can choose different configuration like shortcuts , pen pressure etc for different workflow like inking a comic or doing vector art - Bug report - [https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=477671](https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=477671)\n
        - No way to fine tune pressure curve of the tablet, various people draw with varying pressure some people draw with heavy hand some use light touch, configuring pressure curve helps artist to get nice lines. - bug report - [https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=457705](https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=477671)\n
        - Often graphic tablets have a touch strip or ring but on plasma wayland there is no way to assign shortcut to touch rings - bug report - [https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=477752](https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=477752)\n
        - Related to the above some tablets allow users to switch the modes of the touch ring for example you can click a button and change the mode from one set of shortcuts like scrolling to another set of shortcut like changing hue or zooming in and out. but this is not available in plasma wayland - [https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=477787](https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=477787)\n
        - Creative applications often have use of single modifier shortcuts, artists map this to their pen buttons for example holding ctrl to colour pick while painting but this is not possible on plasma wayland - [https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=461259](https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=461259)\n
        - There is no way to calibrate a display tablet so that there is no wierd offset - [https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=476982](https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=476982) this is in the works and there is an open [MR](https://invent.kde.org/plasma/plasma-desktop/-/merge_requests/1833) by an awesome KDE contributor but it will probably be in 6.1\n
        - There is no way to switch between absolute and relative mode of the graphic tablet - bug report - [https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=477898](https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=477898)\n
        - There is no way to assign mouse click presses to pen button as shortcuts, For example you want to change the default and assign a different button on a pen to do middle mouse click to pan the canvas in krita it won’t accept middle mouse click as a shortcut- [https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=457636](https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=457636)\n
        - The pointer for the graphic tablet is a cross in plasma wayland, it doesn’t even change to resize handle cursor or any other things depending on the context. So if you want to resize a window with your pen it will be troublesome to use this pointer. - [https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=477570](https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=477570) I am not sure how this was gone unnoticed until now.\n
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        I hope some kind volunteer developer notices these shortcomings which were possible earlier on X11 and are not possible on plasma Wayland and help us artists types who rely on these features to use and enjoy wayland like it is intended without worry. Some of these things were possible on X11 for a decade and yet wayland takes us back to square 1.
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      I have no direct experience with any pen related issues but kudos for taking the time to open all them reports. sooner or later, someone is going to tackle those issues. let’s hope it’s soon.\n
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        - No way to create multiple profile of the tablet configuration, so that artist can choose different configuration like shortcuts , pen pressure etc for different workflow like inking a comic or doing vector art - Bug report - [https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=477671](https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=477671)\n
        - No way to fine tune pressure curve of the tablet, various people draw with varying pressure some people draw with heavy hand some use light touch, configuring pressure curve helps artist to get nice lines. - bug report - [https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=457705](https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=477671)\n
        - Often graphic tablets have a touch strip or ring but on plasma wayland there is no way to assign shortcut to touch rings - bug report - [https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=477752](https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=477752)\n
        - Related to the above some tablets allow users to switch the modes of the touch ring for example you can click a button and change the mode from one set of shortcuts like scrolling to another set of shortcut like changing hue or zooming in and out. but this is not available in plasma wayland - [https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=477787](https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=477787)\n
        - Creative applications often have use of single modifier shortcuts, artists map this to their pen buttons for example holding ctrl to colour pick while painting but this is not possible on plasma wayland - [https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=461259](https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=461259)\n
        - There is no way to calibrate a display tablet so that there is no wierd offset - [https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=476982](https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=476982) this is in the works and there is an open [MR](https://invent.kde.org/plasma/plasma-desktop/-/merge_requests/1833) by an awesome KDE contributor but it will probably be in 6.1\n
        - There is no way to switch between absolute and relative mode of the graphic tablet - bug report - [https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=477898](https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=477898)\n
        - There is no way to assign mouse click presses to pen button as shortcuts, For example you want to change the default and assign a different button on a pen to do middle mouse click to pan the canvas in krita it won’t accept middle mouse click as a shortcut- [https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=457636](https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=457636)\n
        - The pointer for the graphic tablet is a cross in plasma wayland, it doesn’t even change to resize handle cursor or any other things depending on the context. So if you want to resize a window with your pen it will be troublesome to use this pointer. - [https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=477570](https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=477570) I am not sure how this was gone unnoticed until now.\n
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      While cutting edge testing distribution such as Fedora are going Wayland only and the proponents of such move say that this push is required to shake things out. I would like to highlight some of the things which are not there yet on the graphic tablet configuration front on plasma wayland. Although the basic support for the tablet is provided through libinput and those who are content with the default will have no issues, those who rely on configuring the tablet will have hard time on wayland.\n
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      I am not sure if these deficiencies will be fixed in plasma 6 release as most of them are marked as wish list or extra things. Thus making the transition from plasma 5 to plasma 6 a regression for people depending on these things. If you compare the current graphic tablet configuration section on X11 to that of plasma wayland you will understand what I am saying.\n
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      - No way to map a portion of the tablet are to the screen - Some people have large tablet and sometime they want to map a portion of the tablet to the monitor - bug report - [https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=457703](https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=457703). Moreover the UI for mapping tablet area and its buttons is slightly inferior to the UI of the same functionality in X11 KCM. - Bug report - [https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=477750](https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=477750)\n
      - No way to create multiple profile of the tablet configuration, so that artist can choose different configuration like shortcuts , pen pressure etc for different workflow like inking a comic or doing vector art - Bug report - [https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=477671](https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=477671)\n
      - No way to fine tune pressure curve of the tablet, various people draw with varying pressure some people draw with heavy hand some use light touch, configuring pressure curve helps artist to get nice lines. - bug report - [https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=457705](https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=477671)\n
      - Often graphic tablets have a touch strip or ring but on plasma wayland there is no way to assign shortcut to touch rings - bug report - [https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=477752](https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=477752)\n
      - Related to the above some tablets allow users to switch the modes of the touch ring for example you can click a button and change the mode from one set of shortcuts like scrolling to another set of shortcut like changing hue or zooming in and out. but this is not available in plasma wayland - [https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=477787](https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=477787)\n
      - Creative applications often have use of single modifier shortcuts, artists map this to their pen buttons for example holding ctrl to colour pick while painting but this is not possible on plasma wayland - [https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=461259](https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=461259)\n
      - There is no way to calibrate a display tablet so that there is no wierd offset - [https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=476982](https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=476982) this is in the works and there is an open [MR](https://invent.kde.org/plasma/plasma-desktop/-/merge_requests/1833) by an awesome KDE contributor but it will probably be in 6.1\n
      - There is no way to switch between absolute and relative mode of the graphic tablet - bug report - [https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=477898](https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=477898)\n
      - There is no way to assign mouse click presses to pen button as shortcuts, For example you want to change the default and assign a different button on a pen to do middle mouse click to pan the canvas in krita it won’t accept middle mouse click as a shortcut- [https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=457636](https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=457636)\n
      - The pointer for the graphic tablet is a cross in plasma wayland, it doesn’t even change to resize handle cursor or any other things depending on the context. So if you want to resize a window with your pen it will be troublesome to use this pointer. - [https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=477570](https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=477570) I am not sure how this was gone unnoticed until now.\n
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      I hope some kind volunteer developer notices these shortcomings which were possible earlier on X11 and are not possible on plasma Wayland and help us artists types who rely on these features to use and enjoy wayland like it is intended without worry. Some of these things were possible on X11 for a decade and yet wayland takes us back to square 1.
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        While cutting edge testing distribution such as Fedora are going Wayland only and the proponents of such move say that this push is required to shake things out. I would like to highlight some of the things which are not there yet on the graphic tablet configuration front on plasma wayland. Although the basic support for the tablet is provided through libinput and those who are content with the default will have no issues, those who rely on configuring the tablet will have hard time on wayland.\n
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        - Often graphic tablets have a touch strip or ring but on plasma wayland there is no way to assign shortcut to touch rings - bug report - [https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=477752](https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=477752)\n
        - Related to the above some tablets allow users to switch the modes of the touch ring for example you can click a button and change the mode from one set of shortcuts like scrolling to another set of shortcut like changing hue or zooming in and out. but this is not available in plasma wayland - [https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=477787](https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=477787)\n
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        - There is no way to calibrate a display tablet so that there is no wierd offset - [https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=476982](https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=476982) this is in the works and there is an open [MR](https://invent.kde.org/plasma/plasma-desktop/-/merge_requests/1833) by an awesome KDE contributor but it will probably be in 6.1\n
        - There is no way to switch between absolute and relative mode of the graphic tablet - bug report - [https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=477898](https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=477898)\n
        - There is no way to assign mouse click presses to pen button as shortcuts, For example you want to change the default and assign a different button on a pen to do middle mouse click to pan the canvas in krita it won’t accept middle mouse click as a shortcut- [https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=457636](https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=457636)\n
        - The pointer for the graphic tablet is a cross in plasma wayland, it doesn’t even change to resize handle cursor or any other things depending on the context. So if you want to resize a window with your pen it will be troublesome to use this pointer. - [https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=477570](https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=477570) I am not sure how this was gone unnoticed until now.\n
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        I hope some kind volunteer developer notices these shortcomings which were possible earlier on X11 and are not possible on plasma Wayland and help us artists types who rely on these features to use and enjoy wayland like it is intended without worry. Some of these things were possible on X11 for a decade and yet wayland takes us back to square 1.
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        - Often graphic tablets have a touch strip or ring but on plasma wayland there is no way to assign shortcut to touch rings - bug report - [https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=477752](https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=477752)\n
        - Related to the above some tablets allow users to switch the modes of the touch ring for example you can click a button and change the mode from one set of shortcuts like scrolling to another set of shortcut like changing hue or zooming in and out. but this is not available in plasma wayland - [https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=477787](https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=477787)\n
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        - There is no way to switch between absolute and relative mode of the graphic tablet - bug report - [https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=477898](https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=477898)\n
        - There is no way to assign mouse click presses to pen button as shortcuts, For example you want to change the default and assign a different button on a pen to do middle mouse click to pan the canvas in krita it won’t accept middle mouse click as a shortcut- [https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=457636](https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=457636)\n
        - The pointer for the graphic tablet is a cross in plasma wayland, it doesn’t even change to resize handle cursor or any other things depending on the context. So if you want to resize a window with your pen it will be troublesome to use this pointer. - [https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=477570](https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=477570) I am not sure how this was gone unnoticed until now.\n
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        I hope some kind volunteer developer notices these shortcomings which were possible earlier on X11 and are not possible on plasma Wayland and help us artists types who rely on these features to use and enjoy wayland like it is intended without worry. Some of these things were possible on X11 for a decade and yet wayland takes us back to square 1.
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        While cutting edge testing distribution such as Fedora are going Wayland only and the proponents of such move say that this push is required to shake things out. I would like to highlight some of the things which are not there yet on the graphic tablet configuration front on plasma wayland. Although the basic support for the tablet is provided through libinput and those who are content with the default will have no issues, those who rely on configuring the tablet will have hard time on wayland.\n
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        I was told that fedora making this move will help us get up to speed and it will pressurize developers to fix broken and non implemented things in plasma wayland soon. But sadly I do not see this happening in the graphic tablet configuration side of things. Hope this post gets the attention from the developers and they pay some attention towards the needs of us less lucky people who do not know to code it ourselves.\n
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        I am not sure if these deficiencies will be fixed in plasma 6 release as most of them are marked as wish list or extra things. Thus making the transition from plasma 5 to plasma 6 a regression for people depending on these things. If you compare the current graphic tablet configuration section on X11 to that of plasma wayland you will understand what I am saying.\n
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        - No way to create multiple profile of the tablet configuration, so that artist can choose different configuration like shortcuts , pen pressure etc for different workflow like inking a comic or doing vector art - Bug report - [https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=477671](https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=477671)\n
        - No way to fine tune pressure curve of the tablet, various people draw with varying pressure some people draw with heavy hand some use light touch, configuring pressure curve helps artist to get nice lines. - bug report - [https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=457705](https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=477671)\n
        - Often graphic tablets have a touch strip or ring but on plasma wayland there is no way to assign shortcut to touch rings - bug report - [https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=477752](https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=477752)\n
        - Related to the above some tablets allow users to switch the modes of the touch ring for example you can click a button and change the mode from one set of shortcuts like scrolling to another set of shortcut like changing hue or zooming in and out. but this is not available in plasma wayland - [https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=477787](https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=477787)\n
        - Creative applications often have use of single modifier shortcuts, artists map this to their pen buttons for example holding ctrl to colour pick while painting but this is not possible on plasma wayland - [https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=461259](https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=461259)\n
        - There is no way to calibrate a display tablet so that there is no wierd offset - [https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=476982](https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=476982) this is in the works and there is an open [MR](https://invent.kde.org/plasma/plasma-desktop/-/merge_requests/1833) by an awesome KDE contributor but it will probably be in 6.1\n
        - There is no way to switch between absolute and relative mode of the graphic tablet - bug report - [https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=477898](https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=477898)\n
        - There is no way to assign mouse click presses to pen button as shortcuts, For example you want to change the default and assign a different button on a pen to do middle mouse click to pan the canvas in krita it won’t accept middle mouse click as a shortcut- [https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=457636](https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=457636)\n
        - The pointer for the graphic tablet is a cross in plasma wayland, it doesn’t even change to resize handle cursor or any other things depending on the context. So if you want to resize a window with your pen it will be troublesome to use this pointer. - [https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=477570](https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=477570) I am not sure how this was gone unnoticed until now.\n
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        I hope some kind volunteer developer notices these shortcomings which were possible earlier on X11 and are not possible on plasma Wayland and help us artists types who rely on these features to use and enjoy wayland like it is intended without worry. Some of these things were possible on X11 for a decade and yet wayland takes us back to square 1.
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      I have no direct experience with any pen related issues but kudos for taking the time to open all them reports. sooner or later, someone is going to tackle those issues. let’s hope it’s soon.\n
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        While cutting edge testing distribution such as Fedora are going Wayland only and the proponents of such move say that this push is required to shake things out. I would like to highlight some of the things which are not there yet on the graphic tablet configuration front on plasma wayland. Although the basic support for the tablet is provided through libinput and those who are content with the default will have no issues, those who rely on configuring the tablet will have hard time on wayland.\n
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        I am not sure if these deficiencies will be fixed in plasma 6 release as most of them are marked as wish list or extra things. Thus making the transition from plasma 5 to plasma 6 a regression for people depending on these things. If you compare the current graphic tablet configuration section on X11 to that of plasma wayland you will understand what I am saying.\n
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        - No way to fine tune pressure curve of the tablet, various people draw with varying pressure some people draw with heavy hand some use light touch, configuring pressure curve helps artist to get nice lines. - bug report - [https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=457705](https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=477671)\n
        - Often graphic tablets have a touch strip or ring but on plasma wayland there is no way to assign shortcut to touch rings - bug report - [https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=477752](https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=477752)\n
        - Related to the above some tablets allow users to switch the modes of the touch ring for example you can click a button and change the mode from one set of shortcuts like scrolling to another set of shortcut like changing hue or zooming in and out. but this is not available in plasma wayland - [https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=477787](https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=477787)\n
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        - There is no way to calibrate a display tablet so that there is no wierd offset - [https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=476982](https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=476982) this is in the works and there is an open [MR](https://invent.kde.org/plasma/plasma-desktop/-/merge_requests/1833) by an awesome KDE contributor but it will probably be in 6.1\n
        - There is no way to switch between absolute and relative mode of the graphic tablet - bug report - [https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=477898](https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=477898)\n
        - There is no way to assign mouse click presses to pen button as shortcuts, For example you want to change the default and assign a different button on a pen to do middle mouse click to pan the canvas in krita it won’t accept middle mouse click as a shortcut- [https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=457636](https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=457636)\n
        - The pointer for the graphic tablet is a cross in plasma wayland, it doesn’t even change to resize handle cursor or any other things depending on the context. So if you want to resize a window with your pen it will be troublesome to use this pointer. - [https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=477570](https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=477570) I am not sure how this was gone unnoticed until now.\n
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        I hope some kind volunteer developer notices these shortcomings which were possible earlier on X11 and are not possible on plasma Wayland and help us artists types who rely on these features to use and enjoy wayland like it is intended without worry. Some of these things were possible on X11 for a decade and yet wayland takes us back to square 1.
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      I have no direct experience with any pen related issues but kudos for taking the time to open all them reports. sooner or later, someone is going to tackle those issues. let’s hope it’s soon.\n
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        you have faulty hardware, whether it’s RAM or cooling or storage related, no way to tell but crashes like that don’t happen nowadays.\n
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        edit: I recall having some issues with a 7490 a few years back, it needed some special module for the fan or the sensors, not sure. don’t know if that’s your issue, but look it up.
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      thanks. unfortunately, didn’t fix [my problem](https://lemmy.ml/post/9835892).\n
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        [wiki.archlinux.org/title/Intel_graphics#Crash/fre…](https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Intel_graphics#Crash/freeze_on_low_power_Intel_CPUs)
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        you have faulty hardware, whether it’s RAM or cooling or storage related, no way to tell but crashes like that don’t happen nowadays.\n
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      thanks. unfortunately, didn’t fix [my problem](https://lemmy.ml/post/9835892).\n
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      I also have a T480s with similar hardware to your Dell and it works without issues, no kernel switches necessary.
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        you have faulty hardware, whether it’s RAM or cooling or storage related, no way to tell but crashes like that don’t happen nowadays.\n
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        edit: I recall having some issues with a 7490 a few years back, it needed some special module for the fan or the sensors, not sure. don’t know if that’s your issue, but look it up.
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        so, I have a weird problem with a Dell Latitude 5285, that’s a 2-in-1 with a detachable keyboard akin to the MS Surface Pro 5. it has an i5-7300u, 16 GB LPDDR3 (on-board), 500 GB NVMe, 12.3" 1920x1280 3:2 touch screen.\n
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        I got it second-hand, unknown history, without a battery. they’re stuck at 400 MHz without one, but Thottlestop in Windows and msr-tools in Linux fix the BD_PROCHOT throttling and the machine performed adequately for months.\n
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        I’ve sourced a replacement battery, removed the patch and my problems started. there’s weird screen flickering, looks like bad video ram or a flaky connection. it’s intermittent, sometimes it runs without issues for hours, sometimes minutes and sometimes it flickers from the start, so troubleshooting and checking if this or that fixed things takes days.\n
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        the artefacts are inconsistent with anything that is or isn’t happening (load, temps, etc) or power source. the problem is mostly exacerbated when the battery is full and/or when waking from sleep, it’s almost always super glitchy then.\n
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        [here’s a demonstration:](https://imgur.com/a/WnsL2Jj)\n
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        would be great if I could try a different battery or try this one in another device, but don’t have that option.\n
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        at no point are there ANY glitches on the external display (tried DP-Alt over USB Type-C and HDMI over Dell WD19 Dock), regardless if the internal screen is enabled or not.\n
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        so, bad luck - faulty screen or backlight or RAM or something, right?\n
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        except, when I unplug the battery (but leave it in place) and connect it to power and reenable the BD_PROCHOT patch - zero glitches! it runs for hours - videos, GPU and CPU stress test, not one hiccup, tear, nothing!\n
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        - fresh paste on CPU, clean vent\n
        - latest firmware, tried downgrading, no change\n
        - memtest passed twice on thorough, all clear\n
        - internal diagnostics also\n
        - it never froze or crashed\n
        - screenshot during glitches doesn’t contain them\n
        - disabling turbo, upping/lowering the max/boost GPU clock, forcing cores offline, limiting max frequencies with TLP\n
        - the battery isn’t deformed and doesn’t exert pressure on the screen or any cables; also tried running it with the screen slightly lifted from the case, no change\n
        - pressing, jerking, wiggling of the internal display cable/connector, no change\n
        - same issues in Windows 11, Ubuntu 23.04 and Fedora WS 38; rarely but sometimes in BIOS/during boot\n
        - sadly, can’t undervolt the CPU/GPU (Throttlestop FIVER says it’s locked) but some MSR writes are apparently OK (like disabling BD_PROCHOT works).\n
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        at some point, it had both charger and dock with PD attached at the same time to both USB Type-C ports; it’s possible this fried something, although I have no evidence of that.\n
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        so, I’m sure this is NOT a linux hardware problem, but I would like to use linux to fix the problem. at this point, I am sure it’s defective, whether it’s age or physical or manufacturing defect or whatever; but since it definitely works perfectly without the battery, I’m looking for some tweaks that makes it perform *with* the battery the same as *without* it.\n
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        seriously doubt anyone’s seen anything similar but are there any ideas what to look at? what to try?\n
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        edit: I’m not asking for free hardware troubleshooting, maybe I haven’t expressed myself succintly. what I’d like is some sort of snapshot of all relevant registers with battery working. and then one without. and then have somehow the difference between those two computed, so I can see which setting I need to tweak. would this be doable?
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        so, I have a weird problem with a Dell Latitude 5285, that’s a 2-in-1 with a detachable keyboard akin to the MS Surface Pro 5. it has an i5-7300u, 16 GB LPDDR3 (on-board), 500 GB NVMe, 12.3" 1920x1280 3:2 touch screen.\n
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        I’ve sourced a replacement battery, removed the patch and my problems started. there’s weird screen flickering, looks like bad video ram or a flaky connection. it’s intermittent, sometimes it runs without issues for hours, sometimes minutes and sometimes it flickers from the start, so troubleshooting and checking if this or that fixed things takes days.\n
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        the artefacts are inconsistent with anything that is or isn’t happening (load, temps, etc) or power source. the problem is mostly exacerbated when the battery is full and/or when waking from sleep, it’s almost always super glitchy then.\n
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        [here’s a demonstration:](https://imgur.com/a/WnsL2Jj)\n
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        would be great if I could try a different battery or try this one in another device, but don’t have that option.\n
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        if it were a normal laptop, I’d just leave it be and use it as a desktop. it feels like such a waste with the functional touchscreen though.\n
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        what I’ve tried:\n
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        - fresh paste on CPU, clean vent\n
        - latest firmware, tried downgrading, no change\n
        - memtest passed twice on thorough, all clear\n
        - internal diagnostics also\n
        - it never froze or crashed\n
        - screenshot during glitches doesn’t contain them\n
        - disabling turbo, upping/lowering the max/boost GPU clock, forcing cores offline, limiting max frequencies with TLP\n
        - the battery isn’t deformed and doesn’t exert pressure on the screen or any cables; also tried running it with the screen slightly lifted from the case, no change\n
        - pressing, jerking, wiggling of the internal display cable/connector, no change\n
        - same issues in Windows 11, Ubuntu 23.04 and Fedora WS 38; rarely but sometimes in BIOS/during boot\n
        - sadly, can’t undervolt the CPU/GPU (Throttlestop FIVER says it’s locked) but some MSR writes are apparently OK (like disabling BD_PROCHOT works).\n
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        so, I’m sure this is NOT a linux hardware problem, but I would like to use linux to fix the problem. at this point, I am sure it’s defective, whether it’s age or physical or manufacturing defect or whatever; but since it definitely works perfectly without the battery, I’m looking for some tweaks that makes it perform *with* the battery the same as *without* it.\n
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        seriously doubt anyone’s seen anything similar but are there any ideas what to look at? what to try?\n
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        edit: I’m not asking for free hardware troubleshooting, maybe I haven’t expressed myself succintly. what I’d like is some sort of snapshot of all relevant registers with battery working. and then one without. and then have somehow the difference between those two computed, so I can see which setting I need to tweak. would this be doable?
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      so, I have a weird problem with a Dell Latitude 5285, that’s a 2-in-1 with a detachable keyboard akin to the MS Surface Pro 5. it has an i5-7300u, 16 GB LPDDR3 (on-board), 500 GB NVMe, 12.3" 1920x1280 3:2 touch screen.\n
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      I got it second-hand, unknown history, without a battery. they’re stuck at 400 MHz without one, but Thottlestop in Windows and msr-tools in Linux fix the BD_PROCHOT throttling and the machine performed adequately for months.\n
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      would be great if I could try a different battery or try this one in another device, but don’t have that option.\n
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      so, I’m sure this is NOT a linux hardware problem, but I would like to use linux to fix the problem. at this point, I am sure it’s defective, whether it’s age or physical or manufacturing defect or whatever; but since it definitely works perfectly without the battery, I’m looking for some tweaks that makes it perform *with* the battery the same as *without* it.\n
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      seriously doubt anyone’s seen anything similar but are there any ideas what to look at? what to try?\n
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        so, I have a weird problem with a Dell Latitude 5285, that’s a 2-in-1 with a detachable keyboard akin to the MS Surface Pro 5. it has an i5-7300u, 16 GB LPDDR3 (on-board), 500 GB NVMe, 12.3" 1920x1280 3:2 touch screen.\n
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        I got it second-hand, unknown history, without a battery. they’re stuck at 400 MHz without one, but Thottlestop in Windows and msr-tools in Linux fix the BD_PROCHOT throttling and the machine performed adequately for months.\n
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        I’ve sourced a replacement battery, removed the patch and my problems started. there’s weird screen flickering, looks like bad video ram or a flaky connection. it’s intermittent, sometimes it runs without issues for hours, sometimes minutes and sometimes it flickers from the start, so troubleshooting and checking if this or that fixed things takes days.\n
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        the artefacts are inconsistent with anything that is or isn’t happening (load, temps, etc) or power source. the problem is mostly exacerbated when the battery is full and/or when waking from sleep, it’s almost always super glitchy then.\n
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        [here’s a demonstration:](https://imgur.com/a/WnsL2Jj)\n
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        would be great if I could try a different battery or try this one in another device, but don’t have that option.\n
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        at no point are there ANY glitches on the external display (tried DP-Alt over USB Type-C and HDMI over Dell WD19 Dock), regardless if the internal screen is enabled or not.\n
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        so, bad luck - faulty screen or backlight or RAM or something, right?\n
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        except, when I unplug the battery (but leave it in place) and connect it to power and reenable the BD_PROCHOT patch - zero glitches! it runs for hours - videos, GPU and CPU stress test, not one hiccup, tear, nothing!\n
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        what I’ve tried:\n
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        - fresh paste on CPU, clean vent\n
        - latest firmware, tried downgrading, no change\n
        - memtest passed twice on thorough, all clear\n
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        - it never froze or crashed\n
        - screenshot during glitches doesn’t contain them\n
        - disabling turbo, upping/lowering the max/boost GPU clock, forcing cores offline, limiting max frequencies with TLP\n
        - the battery isn’t deformed and doesn’t exert pressure on the screen or any cables; also tried running it with the screen slightly lifted from the case, no change\n
        - pressing, jerking, wiggling of the internal display cable/connector, no change\n
        - same issues in Windows 11, Ubuntu 23.04 and Fedora WS 38; rarely but sometimes in BIOS/during boot\n
        - sadly, can’t undervolt the CPU/GPU (Throttlestop FIVER says it’s locked) but some MSR writes are apparently OK (like disabling BD_PROCHOT works).\n
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        so, I’m sure this is NOT a linux hardware problem, but I would like to use linux to fix the problem. at this point, I am sure it’s defective, whether it’s age or physical or manufacturing defect or whatever; but since it definitely works perfectly without the battery, I’m looking for some tweaks that makes it perform *with* the battery the same as *without* it.\n
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        seriously doubt anyone’s seen anything similar but are there any ideas what to look at? what to try?\n
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        edit: I’m not asking for free hardware troubleshooting, maybe I haven’t expressed myself succintly. what I’d like is some sort of snapshot of all relevant registers with battery working. and then one without. and then have somehow the difference between those two computed, so I can see which setting I need to tweak. would this be doable?
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        so, I have a weird problem with a Dell Latitude 5285, that’s a 2-in-1 with a detachable keyboard akin to the MS Surface Pro 5. it has an i5-7300u, 16 GB LPDDR3 (on-board), 500 GB NVMe, 12.3" 1920x1280 3:2 touch screen.\n
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        - latest firmware, tried downgrading, no change\n
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        - the battery isn’t deformed and doesn’t exert pressure on the screen or any cables; also tried running it with the screen slightly lifted from the case, no change\n
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        - same issues in Windows 11, Ubuntu 23.04 and Fedora WS 38; rarely but sometimes in BIOS/during boot\n
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        so, I have a weird problem with a Dell Latitude 5285, that’s a 2-in-1 with a detachable keyboard akin to the MS Surface Pro 5. it has an i5-7300u, 16 GB LPDDR3 (on-board), 500 GB NVMe, 12.3" 1920x1280 3:2 touch screen.\n
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        - latest firmware, tried downgrading, no change\n
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        - internal diagnostics also\n
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        - sadly, can’t undervolt the CPU/GPU (Throttlestop FIVER says it’s locked) but some MSR writes are apparently OK (like disabling BD_PROCHOT works).\n
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        so, I have a weird problem with a Dell Latitude 5285, that’s a 2-in-1 with a detachable keyboard akin to the MS Surface Pro 5. it has an i5-7300u, 16 GB LPDDR3 (on-board), 500 GB NVMe, 12.3" 1920x1280 3:2 touch screen.\n
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        so, I have a weird problem with a Dell Latitude 5285, that’s a 2-in-1 with a detachable keyboard akin to the MS Surface Pro 5. it has an i5-7300u, 16 GB LPDDR3 (on-board), 500 GB NVMe, 12.3" 1920x1280 3:2 touch screen.\n
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        - sadly, can’t undervolt the CPU/GPU (Throttlestop FIVER says it’s locked) but some MSR writes are apparently OK (like disabling BD_PROCHOT works).\n
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      seriously doubt anyone’s seen anything similar but are there any ideas what to look at? what to try?\n
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        so, I have a weird problem with a Dell Latitude 5285, that’s a 2-in-1 with a detachable keyboard akin to the MS Surface Pro 5. it has an i5-7300u, 16 GB LPDDR3 (on-board), 500 GB NVMe, 12.3" 1920x1280 3:2 touch screen.\n
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        [here’s a demonstration:](https://imgur.com/a/WnsL2Jj)\n
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        would be great if I could try a different battery or try this one in another device, but don’t have that option.\n
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        - fresh paste on CPU, clean vent\n
        - latest firmware, tried downgrading, no change\n
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        - internal diagnostics also\n
        - it never froze or crashed\n
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        - disabling turbo, upping/lowering the max/boost GPU clock, forcing cores offline, limiting max frequencies with TLP\n
        - the battery isn’t deformed and doesn’t exert pressure on the screen or any cables; also tried running it with the screen slightly lifted from the case, no change\n
        - pressing, jerking, wiggling of the internal display cable/connector, no change\n
        - same issues in Windows 11, Ubuntu 23.04 and Fedora WS 38; rarely but sometimes in BIOS/during boot\n
        - sadly, can’t undervolt the CPU/GPU (Throttlestop FIVER says it’s locked) but some MSR writes are apparently OK (like disabling BD_PROCHOT works).\n
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        at some point, it had both charger and dock with PD attached at the same time to both USB Type-C ports; it’s possible this fried something, although I have no evidence of that.\n
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        so, I’m sure this is NOT a linux hardware problem, but I would like to use linux to fix the problem. at this point, I am sure it’s defective, whether it’s age or physical or manufacturing defect or whatever; but since it definitely works perfectly without the battery, I’m looking for some tweaks that makes it perform *with* the battery the same as *without* it.\n
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        seriously doubt anyone’s seen anything similar but are there any ideas what to look at? what to try?\n
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        edit: I’m not asking for free hardware troubleshooting, maybe I haven’t expressed myself succintly. what I’d like is some sort of snapshot of all relevant registers with battery working. and then one without. and then have somehow the difference between those two computed, so I can see which setting I need to tweak. would this be doable?
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        so, I have a weird problem with a Dell Latitude 5285, that’s a 2-in-1 with a detachable keyboard akin to the MS Surface Pro 5. it has an i5-7300u, 16 GB LPDDR3 (on-board), 500 GB NVMe, 12.3" 1920x1280 3:2 touch screen.\n
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        so, I have a weird problem with a Dell Latitude 5285, that’s a 2-in-1 with a detachable keyboard akin to the MS Surface Pro 5. it has an i5-7300u, 16 GB LPDDR3 (on-board), 500 GB NVMe, 12.3" 1920x1280 3:2 touch screen.\n
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        - sadly, can’t undervolt the CPU/GPU (Throttlestop FIVER says it’s locked) but some MSR writes are apparently OK (like disabling BD_PROCHOT works).\n
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        so, I have a weird problem with a Dell Latitude 5285, that’s a 2-in-1 with a detachable keyboard akin to the MS Surface Pro 5. it has an i5-7300u, 16 GB LPDDR3 (on-board), 500 GB NVMe, 12.3" 1920x1280 3:2 touch screen.\n
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        so, I have a weird problem with a Dell Latitude 5285, that’s a 2-in-1 with a detachable keyboard akin to the MS Surface Pro 5. it has an i5-7300u, 16 GB LPDDR3 (on-board), 500 GB NVMe, 12.3" 1920x1280 3:2 touch screen.\n
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        - latest firmware, tried downgrading, no change\n
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        - pressing, jerking, wiggling of the internal display cable/connector, no change\n
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        - sadly, can’t undervolt the CPU/GPU (Throttlestop FIVER says it’s locked) but some MSR writes are apparently OK (like disabling BD_PROCHOT works).\n
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      so, I have a weird problem with a Dell Latitude 5285, that’s a 2-in-1 with a detachable keyboard akin to the MS Surface Pro 5. it has an i5-7300u, 16 GB LPDDR3 (on-board), 500 GB NVMe, 12.3" 1920x1280 3:2 touch screen.\n
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      - disabling turbo, upping/lowering the max/boost GPU clock, forcing cores offline, limiting max frequencies with TLP\n
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      - pressing, jerking, wiggling of the internal display cable/connector, no change\n
      - same issues in Windows 11, Ubuntu 23.04 and Fedora WS 38; rarely but sometimes in BIOS/during boot\n
      - sadly, can’t undervolt the CPU/GPU (Throttlestop FIVER says it’s locked) but some MSR writes are apparently OK (like disabling BD_PROCHOT works).\n
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      seriously doubt anyone’s seen anything similar but are there any ideas what to look at? what to try?\n
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      edit: I’m not asking for free hardware troubleshooting, maybe I haven’t expressed myself succintly. what I’d like is some sort of snapshot of all relevant registers with battery working. and then one without. and then have somehow the difference between those two computed, so I can see which setting I need to tweak. would this be doable?
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      so, I have a weird problem with a Dell Latitude 5285, that’s a 2-in-1 with a detachable keyboard akin to the MS Surface Pro 5. it has an i5-7300u, 16 GB LPDDR3 (on-board), 500 GB NVMe, 12.3" 1920x1280 3:2 touch screen.\n
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      I got it second-hand, unknown history, without a battery. they’re stuck at 400 MHz without one, but Thottlestop in Windows and msr-tools in Linux fix the BD_PROCHOT throttling and the machine performed adequately for months.\n
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      I’ve sourced a replacement battery, removed the patch and my problems started. there’s weird screen flickering, looks like bad video ram or a flaky connection. it’s intermittent, sometimes it runs without issues for hours, sometimes minutes and sometimes it flickers from the start, so troubleshooting and checking if this or that fixed things takes days.\n
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      - same issues in Windows 11, Ubuntu 23.04 and Fedora WS 38; rarely but sometimes in BIOS/during boot\n
      - sadly, can’t undervolt the CPU/GPU (Throttlestop FIVER says it’s locked) but some MSR writes are apparently OK (like disabling BD_PROCHOT works).\n
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      at some point, it had both charger and dock with PD attached at the same time to both USB Type-C ports; it’s possible this fried something, although I have no evidence of that.\n
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      so, I’m sure this is NOT a linux hardware problem, but I would like to use linux to fix the problem. at this point, I am sure it’s defective, whether it’s age or physical or manufacturing defect or whatever; but since it definitely works perfectly without the battery, I’m looking for some tweaks that makes it perform *with* the battery the same as *without* it.\n
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      seriously doubt anyone’s seen anything similar but are there any ideas what to look at? what to try?\n
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      edit: I’m not asking for free hardware troubleshooting, maybe I haven’t expressed myself succintly. what I’d like is some sort of snapshot of all relevant registers with battery working. and then one without. and then have somehow the difference between those two computed, so I can see which setting I need to tweak. would this be doable?
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        so, I have a weird problem with a Dell Latitude 5285, that’s a 2-in-1 with a detachable keyboard akin to the MS Surface Pro 5. it has an i5-7300u, 16 GB LPDDR3 (on-board), 500 GB NVMe, 12.3" 1920x1280 3:2 touch screen.\n
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        I got it second-hand, unknown history, without a battery. they’re stuck at 400 MHz without one, but Thottlestop in Windows and msr-tools in Linux fix the BD_PROCHOT throttling and the machine performed adequately for months.\n
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        I’ve sourced a replacement battery, removed the patch and my problems started. there’s weird screen flickering, looks like bad video ram or a flaky connection. it’s intermittent, sometimes it runs without issues for hours, sometimes minutes and sometimes it flickers from the start, so troubleshooting and checking if this or that fixed things takes days.\n
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        [here’s a demonstration:](https://imgur.com/a/WnsL2Jj)\n
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        would be great if I could try a different battery or try this one in another device, but don’t have that option.\n
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        - the battery isn’t deformed and doesn’t exert pressure on the screen or any cables; also tried running it with the screen slightly lifted from the case, no change\n
        - pressing, jerking, wiggling of the internal display cable/connector, no change\n
        - same issues in Windows 11, Ubuntu 23.04 and Fedora WS 38; rarely but sometimes in BIOS/during boot\n
        - sadly, can’t undervolt the CPU/GPU (Throttlestop FIVER says it’s locked) but some MSR writes are apparently OK (like disabling BD_PROCHOT works).\n
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        so, I have a weird problem with a Dell Latitude 5285, that’s a 2-in-1 with a detachable keyboard akin to the MS Surface Pro 5. it has an i5-7300u, 16 GB LPDDR3 (on-board), 500 GB NVMe, 12.3" 1920x1280 3:2 touch screen.\n
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        - internal diagnostics also\n
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        - disabling turbo, upping/lowering the max/boost GPU clock, forcing cores offline, limiting max frequencies with TLP\n
        - the battery isn’t deformed and doesn’t exert pressure on the screen or any cables; also tried running it with the screen slightly lifted from the case, no change\n
        - pressing, jerking, wiggling of the internal display cable/connector, no change\n
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        - sadly, can’t undervolt the CPU/GPU (Throttlestop FIVER says it’s locked) but some MSR writes are apparently OK (like disabling BD_PROCHOT works).\n
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        seriously doubt anyone’s seen anything similar but are there any ideas what to look at? what to try?\n
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        so, I have a weird problem with a Dell Latitude 5285, that’s a 2-in-1 with a detachable keyboard akin to the MS Surface Pro 5. it has an i5-7300u, 16 GB LPDDR3 (on-board), 500 GB NVMe, 12.3" 1920x1280 3:2 touch screen.\n
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        I’ve sourced a replacement battery, removed the patch and my problems started. there’s weird screen flickering, looks like bad video ram or a flaky connection. it’s intermittent, sometimes it runs without issues for hours, sometimes minutes and sometimes it flickers from the start, so troubleshooting and checking if this or that fixed things takes days.\n
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        would be great if I could try a different battery or try this one in another device, but don’t have that option.\n
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        so, bad luck - faulty screen or backlight or RAM or something, right?\n
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        - latest firmware, tried downgrading, no change\n
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        - sadly, can’t undervolt the CPU/GPU (Throttlestop FIVER says it’s locked) but some MSR writes are apparently OK (like disabling BD_PROCHOT works).\n
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        so, I’m sure this is NOT a linux hardware problem, but I would like to use linux to fix the problem. at this point, I am sure it’s defective, whether it’s age or physical or manufacturing defect or whatever; but since it definitely works perfectly without the battery, I’m looking for some tweaks that makes it perform *with* the battery the same as *without* it.\n
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        seriously doubt anyone’s seen anything similar but are there any ideas what to look at? what to try?\n
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        edit: I’m not asking for free hardware troubleshooting, maybe I haven’t expressed myself succintly. what I’d like is some sort of snapshot of all relevant registers with battery working. and then one without. and then have somehow the difference between those two computed, so I can see which setting I need to tweak. would this be doable?
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        so, I have a weird problem with a Dell Latitude 5285, that’s a 2-in-1 with a detachable keyboard akin to the MS Surface Pro 5. it has an i5-7300u, 16 GB LPDDR3 (on-board), 500 GB NVMe, 12.3" 1920x1280 3:2 touch screen.\n
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        - sadly, can’t undervolt the CPU/GPU (Throttlestop FIVER says it’s locked) but some MSR writes are apparently OK (like disabling BD_PROCHOT works).\n
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        so, I’m sure this is NOT a linux hardware problem, but I would like to use linux to fix the problem. at this point, I am sure it’s defective, whether it’s age or physical or manufacturing defect or whatever; but since it definitely works perfectly without the battery, I’m looking for some tweaks that makes it perform *with* the battery the same as *without* it.\n
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        seriously doubt anyone’s seen anything similar but are there any ideas what to look at? what to try?\n
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      so, I have a weird problem with a Dell Latitude 5285, that’s a 2-in-1 with a detachable keyboard akin to the MS Surface Pro 5. it has an i5-7300u, 16 GB LPDDR3 (on-board), 500 GB NVMe, 12.3" 1920x1280 3:2 touch screen.\n
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      seriously doubt anyone’s seen anything similar but are there any ideas what to look at? what to try?\n
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        so, I have a weird problem with a Dell Latitude 5285, that’s a 2-in-1 with a detachable keyboard akin to the MS Surface Pro 5. it has an i5-7300u, 16 GB LPDDR3 (on-board), 500 GB NVMe, 12.3" 1920x1280 3:2 touch screen.\n
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        I got it second-hand, unknown history, without a battery. they’re stuck at 400 MHz without one, but Thottlestop in Windows and msr-tools in Linux fix the BD_PROCHOT throttling and the machine performed adequately for months.\n
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        I’ve sourced a replacement battery, removed the patch and my problems started. there’s weird screen flickering, looks like bad video ram or a flaky connection. it’s intermittent, sometimes it runs without issues for hours, sometimes minutes and sometimes it flickers from the start, so troubleshooting and checking if this or that fixed things takes days.\n
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        would be great if I could try a different battery or try this one in another device, but don’t have that option.\n
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        so, bad luck - faulty screen or backlight or RAM or something, right?\n
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        except, when I unplug the battery (but leave it in place) and connect it to power and reenable the BD_PROCHOT patch - zero glitches! it runs for hours - videos, GPU and CPU stress test, not one hiccup, tear, nothing!\n
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        - latest firmware, tried downgrading, no change\n
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        - the battery isn’t deformed and doesn’t exert pressure on the screen or any cables; also tried running it with the screen slightly lifted from the case, no change\n
        - pressing, jerking, wiggling of the internal display cable/connector, no change\n
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        - sadly, can’t undervolt the CPU/GPU (Throttlestop FIVER says it’s locked) but some MSR writes are apparently OK (like disabling BD_PROCHOT works).\n
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        so, I’m sure this is NOT a linux hardware problem, but I would like to use linux to fix the problem. at this point, I am sure it’s defective, whether it’s age or physical or manufacturing defect or whatever; but since it definitely works perfectly without the battery, I’m looking for some tweaks that makes it perform *with* the battery the same as *without* it.\n
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        seriously doubt anyone’s seen anything similar but are there any ideas what to look at? what to try?\n
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        edit: I’m not asking for free hardware troubleshooting, maybe I haven’t expressed myself succintly. what I’d like is some sort of snapshot of all relevant registers with battery working. and then one without. and then have somehow the difference between those two computed, so I can see which setting I need to tweak. would this be doable?
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        so, I have a weird problem with a Dell Latitude 5285, that’s a 2-in-1 with a detachable keyboard akin to the MS Surface Pro 5. it has an i5-7300u, 16 GB LPDDR3 (on-board), 500 GB NVMe, 12.3" 1920x1280 3:2 touch screen.\n
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        seriously doubt anyone’s seen anything similar but are there any ideas what to look at? what to try?\n
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        - sadly, can’t undervolt the CPU/GPU (Throttlestop FIVER says it’s locked) but some MSR writes are apparently OK (like disabling BD_PROCHOT works).\n
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      hmm, there’s an idea. I’ll try to shield the cable from the battery with cardboard and aluminium foil.\n
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        so, I have a weird problem with a Dell Latitude 5285, that’s a 2-in-1 with a detachable keyboard akin to the MS Surface Pro 5. it has an i5-7300u, 16 GB LPDDR3 (on-board), 500 GB NVMe, 12.3" 1920x1280 3:2 touch screen.\n
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        - fresh paste on CPU, clean vent\n
        - latest firmware, tried downgrading, no change\n
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        - the battery isn’t deformed and doesn’t exert pressure on the screen or any cables; also tried running it with the screen slightly lifted from the case, no change\n
        - pressing, jerking, wiggling of the internal display cable/connector, no change\n
        - same issues in Windows 11, Ubuntu 23.04 and Fedora WS 38; rarely but sometimes in BIOS/during boot\n
        - sadly, can’t undervolt the CPU/GPU (Throttlestop FIVER says it’s locked) but some MSR writes are apparently OK (like disabling BD_PROCHOT works).\n
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        seriously doubt anyone’s seen anything similar but are there any ideas what to look at? what to try?\n
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        so, I have a weird problem with a Dell Latitude 5285, that’s a 2-in-1 with a detachable keyboard akin to the MS Surface Pro 5. it has an i5-7300u, 16 GB LPDDR3 (on-board), 500 GB NVMe, 12.3" 1920x1280 3:2 touch screen.\n
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        - latest firmware, tried downgrading, no change\n
        - memtest passed twice on thorough, all clear\n
        - internal diagnostics also\n
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        - the battery isn’t deformed and doesn’t exert pressure on the screen or any cables; also tried running it with the screen slightly lifted from the case, no change\n
        - pressing, jerking, wiggling of the internal display cable/connector, no change\n
        - same issues in Windows 11, Ubuntu 23.04 and Fedora WS 38; rarely but sometimes in BIOS/during boot\n
        - sadly, can’t undervolt the CPU/GPU (Throttlestop FIVER says it’s locked) but some MSR writes are apparently OK (like disabling BD_PROCHOT works).\n
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      so, I have a weird problem with a Dell Latitude 5285, that’s a 2-in-1 with a detachable keyboard akin to the MS Surface Pro 5. it has an i5-7300u, 16 GB LPDDR3 (on-board), 500 GB NVMe, 12.3" 1920x1280 3:2 touch screen.\n
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      - same issues in Windows 11, Ubuntu 23.04 and Fedora WS 38; rarely but sometimes in BIOS/during boot\n
      - sadly, can’t undervolt the CPU/GPU (Throttlestop FIVER says it’s locked) but some MSR writes are apparently OK (like disabling BD_PROCHOT works).\n
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      seriously doubt anyone’s seen anything similar but are there any ideas what to look at? what to try?\n
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      edit: I’m not asking for free hardware troubleshooting, maybe I haven’t expressed myself succintly. what I’d like is some sort of snapshot of all relevant registers with battery working. and then one without. and then have somehow the difference between those two computed, so I can see which setting I need to tweak. would this be doable?
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      so, I have a weird problem with a Dell Latitude 5285, that’s a 2-in-1 with a detachable keyboard akin to the MS Surface Pro 5. it has an i5-7300u, 16 GB LPDDR3 (on-board), 500 GB NVMe, 12.3" 1920x1280 3:2 touch screen.\n
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      - fresh paste on CPU, clean vent\n
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      - same issues in Windows 11, Ubuntu 23.04 and Fedora WS 38; rarely but sometimes in BIOS/during boot\n
      - sadly, can’t undervolt the CPU/GPU (Throttlestop FIVER says it’s locked) but some MSR writes are apparently OK (like disabling BD_PROCHOT works).\n
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      at some point, it had both charger and dock with PD attached at the same time to both USB Type-C ports; it’s possible this fried something, although I have no evidence of that.\n
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      so, I’m sure this is NOT a linux hardware problem, but I would like to use linux to fix the problem. at this point, I am sure it’s defective, whether it’s age or physical or manufacturing defect or whatever; but since it definitely works perfectly without the battery, I’m looking for some tweaks that makes it perform *with* the battery the same as *without* it.\n
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      seriously doubt anyone’s seen anything similar but are there any ideas what to look at? what to try?\n
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      edit: I’m not asking for free hardware troubleshooting, maybe I haven’t expressed myself succintly. what I’d like is some sort of snapshot of all relevant registers with battery working. and then one without. and then have somehow the difference between those two computed, so I can see which setting I need to tweak. would this be doable?
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        so, I have a weird problem with a Dell Latitude 5285, that’s a 2-in-1 with a detachable keyboard akin to the MS Surface Pro 5. it has an i5-7300u, 16 GB LPDDR3 (on-board), 500 GB NVMe, 12.3" 1920x1280 3:2 touch screen.\n
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        I got it second-hand, unknown history, without a battery. they’re stuck at 400 MHz without one, but Thottlestop in Windows and msr-tools in Linux fix the BD_PROCHOT throttling and the machine performed adequately for months.\n
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        I’ve sourced a replacement battery, removed the patch and my problems started. there’s weird screen flickering, looks like bad video ram or a flaky connection. it’s intermittent, sometimes it runs without issues for hours, sometimes minutes and sometimes it flickers from the start, so troubleshooting and checking if this or that fixed things takes days.\n
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        [here’s a demonstration:](https://imgur.com/a/WnsL2Jj)\n
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        would be great if I could try a different battery or try this one in another device, but don’t have that option.\n
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        except, when I unplug the battery (but leave it in place) and connect it to power and reenable the BD_PROCHOT patch - zero glitches! it runs for hours - videos, GPU and CPU stress test, not one hiccup, tear, nothing!\n
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        so, I have a weird problem with a Dell Latitude 5285, that’s a 2-in-1 with a detachable keyboard akin to the MS Surface Pro 5. it has an i5-7300u, 16 GB LPDDR3 (on-board), 500 GB NVMe, 12.3" 1920x1280 3:2 touch screen.\n
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        - latest firmware, tried downgrading, no change\n
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        - the battery isn’t deformed and doesn’t exert pressure on the screen or any cables; also tried running it with the screen slightly lifted from the case, no change\n
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        - sadly, can’t undervolt the CPU/GPU (Throttlestop FIVER says it’s locked) but some MSR writes are apparently OK (like disabling BD_PROCHOT works).\n
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        - latest firmware, tried downgrading, no change\n
        - memtest passed twice on thorough, all clear\n
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        - the battery isn’t deformed and doesn’t exert pressure on the screen or any cables; also tried running it with the screen slightly lifted from the case, no change\n
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        - sadly, can’t undervolt the CPU/GPU (Throttlestop FIVER says it’s locked) but some MSR writes are apparently OK (like disabling BD_PROCHOT works).\n
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        - latest firmware, tried downgrading, no change\n
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        - sadly, can’t undervolt the CPU/GPU (Throttlestop FIVER says it’s locked) but some MSR writes are apparently OK (like disabling BD_PROCHOT works).\n
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        so, I have a weird problem with a Dell Latitude 5285, that’s a 2-in-1 with a detachable keyboard akin to the MS Surface Pro 5. it has an i5-7300u, 16 GB LPDDR3 (on-board), 500 GB NVMe, 12.3" 1920x1280 3:2 touch screen.\n
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      naturally, it began again after waking from sleep. that’s why it’s so darn tiresome diagnosing it, you never know if the tweak you’ve made has any effect, sometimes it works for hours, sometimes it freaks out after seconds.\n
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      if the battery is the culprit, shouldn’t it stop being a problem when running the device on external power? it’s not like it’s constantly charging the battery and simultaneously draining it; at least, no laptop I know of does that. and if the display cable is faulty, then it should also have those flickers when running it without battery. that never happens.
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        so, I have a weird problem with a Dell Latitude 5285, that’s a 2-in-1 with a detachable keyboard akin to the MS Surface Pro 5. it has an i5-7300u, 16 GB LPDDR3 (on-board), 500 GB NVMe, 12.3" 1920x1280 3:2 touch screen.\n
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      seriously doubt anyone’s seen anything similar but are there any ideas what to look at? what to try?\n
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        so, I have a weird problem with a Dell Latitude 5285, that’s a 2-in-1 with a detachable keyboard akin to the MS Surface Pro 5. it has an i5-7300u, 16 GB LPDDR3 (on-board), 500 GB NVMe, 12.3" 1920x1280 3:2 touch screen.\n
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        I got it second-hand, unknown history, without a battery. they’re stuck at 400 MHz without one, but Thottlestop in Windows and msr-tools in Linux fix the BD_PROCHOT throttling and the machine performed adequately for months.\n
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        I’ve sourced a replacement battery, removed the patch and my problems started. there’s weird screen flickering, looks like bad video ram or a flaky connection. it’s intermittent, sometimes it runs without issues for hours, sometimes minutes and sometimes it flickers from the start, so troubleshooting and checking if this or that fixed things takes days.\n
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        the artefacts are inconsistent with anything that is or isn’t happening (load, temps, etc) or power source. the problem is mostly exacerbated when the battery is full and/or when waking from sleep, it’s almost always super glitchy then.\n
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        [here’s a demonstration:](https://imgur.com/a/WnsL2Jj)\n
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        would be great if I could try a different battery or try this one in another device, but don’t have that option.\n
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        at no point are there ANY glitches on the external display (tried DP-Alt over USB Type-C and HDMI over Dell WD19 Dock), regardless if the internal screen is enabled or not.\n
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        except, when I unplug the battery (but leave it in place) and connect it to power and reenable the BD_PROCHOT patch - zero glitches! it runs for hours - videos, GPU and CPU stress test, not one hiccup, tear, nothing!\n
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        - fresh paste on CPU, clean vent\n
        - latest firmware, tried downgrading, no change\n
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        - internal diagnostics also\n
        - it never froze or crashed\n
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        - disabling turbo, upping/lowering the max/boost GPU clock, forcing cores offline, limiting max frequencies with TLP\n
        - the battery isn’t deformed and doesn’t exert pressure on the screen or any cables; also tried running it with the screen slightly lifted from the case, no change\n
        - pressing, jerking, wiggling of the internal display cable/connector, no change\n
        - same issues in Windows 11, Ubuntu 23.04 and Fedora WS 38; rarely but sometimes in BIOS/during boot\n
        - sadly, can’t undervolt the CPU/GPU (Throttlestop FIVER says it’s locked) but some MSR writes are apparently OK (like disabling BD_PROCHOT works).\n
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        so, I’m sure this is NOT a linux hardware problem, but I would like to use linux to fix the problem. at this point, I am sure it’s defective, whether it’s age or physical or manufacturing defect or whatever; but since it definitely works perfectly without the battery, I’m looking for some tweaks that makes it perform *with* the battery the same as *without* it.\n
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        seriously doubt anyone’s seen anything similar but are there any ideas what to look at? what to try?\n
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        edit: I’m not asking for free hardware troubleshooting, maybe I haven’t expressed myself succintly. what I’d like is some sort of snapshot of all relevant registers with battery working. and then one without. and then have somehow the difference between those two computed, so I can see which setting I need to tweak. would this be doable?
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        so, I have a weird problem with a Dell Latitude 5285, that’s a 2-in-1 with a detachable keyboard akin to the MS Surface Pro 5. it has an i5-7300u, 16 GB LPDDR3 (on-board), 500 GB NVMe, 12.3" 1920x1280 3:2 touch screen.\n
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        so, I have a weird problem with a Dell Latitude 5285, that’s a 2-in-1 with a detachable keyboard akin to the MS Surface Pro 5. it has an i5-7300u, 16 GB LPDDR3 (on-board), 500 GB NVMe, 12.3" 1920x1280 3:2 touch screen.\n
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        - latest firmware, tried downgrading, no change\n
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        - sadly, can’t undervolt the CPU/GPU (Throttlestop FIVER says it’s locked) but some MSR writes are apparently OK (like disabling BD_PROCHOT works).\n
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      if the battery is the culprit, shouldn’t it stop being a problem when running the device on external power? it’s not like it’s constantly charging the battery and simultaneously draining it; at least, no laptop I know of does that. and if the display cable is faulty, then it should also have those flickers when running it without battery. that never happens.
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        so, I have a weird problem with a Dell Latitude 5285, that’s a 2-in-1 with a detachable keyboard akin to the MS Surface Pro 5. it has an i5-7300u, 16 GB LPDDR3 (on-board), 500 GB NVMe, 12.3" 1920x1280 3:2 touch screen.\n
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        I’ve sourced a replacement battery, removed the patch and my problems started. there’s weird screen flickering, looks like bad video ram or a flaky connection. it’s intermittent, sometimes it runs without issues for hours, sometimes minutes and sometimes it flickers from the start, so troubleshooting and checking if this or that fixed things takes days.\n
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        the artefacts are inconsistent with anything that is or isn’t happening (load, temps, etc) or power source. the problem is mostly exacerbated when the battery is full and/or when waking from sleep, it’s almost always super glitchy then.\n
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        [here’s a demonstration:](https://imgur.com/a/WnsL2Jj)\n
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        would be great if I could try a different battery or try this one in another device, but don’t have that option.\n
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        - fresh paste on CPU, clean vent\n
        - latest firmware, tried downgrading, no change\n
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        - it never froze or crashed\n
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        - disabling turbo, upping/lowering the max/boost GPU clock, forcing cores offline, limiting max frequencies with TLP\n
        - the battery isn’t deformed and doesn’t exert pressure on the screen or any cables; also tried running it with the screen slightly lifted from the case, no change\n
        - pressing, jerking, wiggling of the internal display cable/connector, no change\n
        - same issues in Windows 11, Ubuntu 23.04 and Fedora WS 38; rarely but sometimes in BIOS/during boot\n
        - sadly, can’t undervolt the CPU/GPU (Throttlestop FIVER says it’s locked) but some MSR writes are apparently OK (like disabling BD_PROCHOT works).\n
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      naturally, it began again after waking from sleep. that’s why it’s so darn tiresome diagnosing it, you never know if the tweak you’ve made has any effect, sometimes it works for hours, sometimes it freaks out after seconds.\n
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      if the battery is the culprit, shouldn’t it stop being a problem when running the device on external power? it’s not like it’s constantly charging the battery and simultaneously draining it; at least, no laptop I know of does that. and if the display cable is faulty, then it should also have those flickers when running it without battery. that never happens.
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        so, I have a weird problem with a Dell Latitude 5285, that’s a 2-in-1 with a detachable keyboard akin to the MS Surface Pro 5. it has an i5-7300u, 16 GB LPDDR3 (on-board), 500 GB NVMe, 12.3" 1920x1280 3:2 touch screen.\n
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        the artefacts are inconsistent with anything that is or isn’t happening (load, temps, etc) or power source. the problem is mostly exacerbated when the battery is full and/or when waking from sleep, it’s almost always super glitchy then.\n
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        [here’s a demonstration:](https://imgur.com/a/WnsL2Jj)\n
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        if it were a normal laptop, I’d just leave it be and use it as a desktop. it feels like such a waste with the functional touchscreen though.\n
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        what I’ve tried:\n
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        - fresh paste on CPU, clean vent\n
        - latest firmware, tried downgrading, no change\n
        - memtest passed twice on thorough, all clear\n
        - internal diagnostics also\n
        - it never froze or crashed\n
        - screenshot during glitches doesn’t contain them\n
        - disabling turbo, upping/lowering the max/boost GPU clock, forcing cores offline, limiting max frequencies with TLP\n
        - the battery isn’t deformed and doesn’t exert pressure on the screen or any cables; also tried running it with the screen slightly lifted from the case, no change\n
        - pressing, jerking, wiggling of the internal display cable/connector, no change\n
        - same issues in Windows 11, Ubuntu 23.04 and Fedora WS 38; rarely but sometimes in BIOS/during boot\n
        - sadly, can’t undervolt the CPU/GPU (Throttlestop FIVER says it’s locked) but some MSR writes are apparently OK (like disabling BD_PROCHOT works).\n
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        at some point, it had both charger and dock with PD attached at the same time to both USB Type-C ports; it’s possible this fried something, although I have no evidence of that.\n
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        so, I’m sure this is NOT a linux hardware problem, but I would like to use linux to fix the problem. at this point, I am sure it’s defective, whether it’s age or physical or manufacturing defect or whatever; but since it definitely works perfectly without the battery, I’m looking for some tweaks that makes it perform *with* the battery the same as *without* it.\n
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        so, I have a weird problem with a Dell Latitude 5285, that’s a 2-in-1 with a detachable keyboard akin to the MS Surface Pro 5. it has an i5-7300u, 16 GB LPDDR3 (on-board), 500 GB NVMe, 12.3" 1920x1280 3:2 touch screen.\n
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        - fresh paste on CPU, clean vent\n
        - latest firmware, tried downgrading, no change\n
        - memtest passed twice on thorough, all clear\n
        - internal diagnostics also\n
        - it never froze or crashed\n
        - screenshot during glitches doesn’t contain them\n
        - disabling turbo, upping/lowering the max/boost GPU clock, forcing cores offline, limiting max frequencies with TLP\n
        - the battery isn’t deformed and doesn’t exert pressure on the screen or any cables; also tried running it with the screen slightly lifted from the case, no change\n
        - pressing, jerking, wiggling of the internal display cable/connector, no change\n
        - same issues in Windows 11, Ubuntu 23.04 and Fedora WS 38; rarely but sometimes in BIOS/during boot\n
        - sadly, can’t undervolt the CPU/GPU (Throttlestop FIVER says it’s locked) but some MSR writes are apparently OK (like disabling BD_PROCHOT works).\n
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        so, I’m sure this is NOT a linux hardware problem, but I would like to use linux to fix the problem. at this point, I am sure it’s defective, whether it’s age or physical or manufacturing defect or whatever; but since it definitely works perfectly without the battery, I’m looking for some tweaks that makes it perform *with* the battery the same as *without* it.\n
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        seriously doubt anyone’s seen anything similar but are there any ideas what to look at? what to try?\n
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      so, I have a weird problem with a Dell Latitude 5285, that’s a 2-in-1 with a detachable keyboard akin to the MS Surface Pro 5. it has an i5-7300u, 16 GB LPDDR3 (on-board), 500 GB NVMe, 12.3" 1920x1280 3:2 touch screen.\n
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      - sadly, can’t undervolt the CPU/GPU (Throttlestop FIVER says it’s locked) but some MSR writes are apparently OK (like disabling BD_PROCHOT works).\n
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      seriously doubt anyone’s seen anything similar but are there any ideas what to look at? what to try?\n
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      so, I have a weird problem with a Dell Latitude 5285, that’s a 2-in-1 with a detachable keyboard akin to the MS Surface Pro 5. it has an i5-7300u, 16 GB LPDDR3 (on-board), 500 GB NVMe, 12.3" 1920x1280 3:2 touch screen.\n
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      I got it second-hand, unknown history, without a battery. they’re stuck at 400 MHz without one, but Thottlestop in Windows and msr-tools in Linux fix the BD_PROCHOT throttling and the machine performed adequately for months.\n
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      I’ve sourced a replacement battery, removed the patch and my problems started. there’s weird screen flickering, looks like bad video ram or a flaky connection. it’s intermittent, sometimes it runs without issues for hours, sometimes minutes and sometimes it flickers from the start, so troubleshooting and checking if this or that fixed things takes days.\n
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      the artefacts are inconsistent with anything that is or isn’t happening (load, temps, etc) or power source. the problem is mostly exacerbated when the battery is full and/or when waking from sleep, it’s almost always super glitchy then.\n
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      [here’s a demonstration:](https://imgur.com/a/WnsL2Jj)\n
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      would be great if I could try a different battery or try this one in another device, but don’t have that option.\n
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      at no point are there ANY glitches on the external display (tried DP-Alt over USB Type-C and HDMI over Dell WD19 Dock), regardless if the internal screen is enabled or not.\n
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      except, when I unplug the battery (but leave it in place) and connect it to power and reenable the BD_PROCHOT patch - zero glitches! it runs for hours - videos, GPU and CPU stress test, not one hiccup, tear, nothing!\n
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      if it were a normal laptop, I’d just leave it be and use it as a desktop. it feels like such a waste with the functional touchscreen though.\n
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      - latest firmware, tried downgrading, no change\n
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      - internal diagnostics also\n
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      - the battery isn’t deformed and doesn’t exert pressure on the screen or any cables; also tried running it with the screen slightly lifted from the case, no change\n
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      - same issues in Windows 11, Ubuntu 23.04 and Fedora WS 38; rarely but sometimes in BIOS/during boot\n
      - sadly, can’t undervolt the CPU/GPU (Throttlestop FIVER says it’s locked) but some MSR writes are apparently OK (like disabling BD_PROCHOT works).\n
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      at some point, it had both charger and dock with PD attached at the same time to both USB Type-C ports; it’s possible this fried something, although I have no evidence of that.\n
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      so, I’m sure this is NOT a linux hardware problem, but I would like to use linux to fix the problem. at this point, I am sure it’s defective, whether it’s age or physical or manufacturing defect or whatever; but since it definitely works perfectly without the battery, I’m looking for some tweaks that makes it perform *with* the battery the same as *without* it.\n
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      seriously doubt anyone’s seen anything similar but are there any ideas what to look at? what to try?\n
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      edit: I’m not asking for free hardware troubleshooting, maybe I haven’t expressed myself succintly. what I’d like is some sort of snapshot of all relevant registers with battery working. and then one without. and then have somehow the difference between those two computed, so I can see which setting I need to tweak. would this be doable?
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        so, I have a weird problem with a Dell Latitude 5285, that’s a 2-in-1 with a detachable keyboard akin to the MS Surface Pro 5. it has an i5-7300u, 16 GB LPDDR3 (on-board), 500 GB NVMe, 12.3" 1920x1280 3:2 touch screen.\n
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        the artefacts are inconsistent with anything that is or isn’t happening (load, temps, etc) or power source. the problem is mostly exacerbated when the battery is full and/or when waking from sleep, it’s almost always super glitchy then.\n
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        - sadly, can’t undervolt the CPU/GPU (Throttlestop FIVER says it’s locked) but some MSR writes are apparently OK (like disabling BD_PROCHOT works).\n
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        edit: I’m not asking for free hardware troubleshooting, maybe I haven’t expressed myself succintly. what I’d like is some sort of snapshot of all relevant registers with battery working. and then one without. and then have somehow the difference between those two computed, so I can see which setting I need to tweak. would this be doable?
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        so, I have a weird problem with a Dell Latitude 5285, that’s a 2-in-1 with a detachable keyboard akin to the MS Surface Pro 5. it has an i5-7300u, 16 GB LPDDR3 (on-board), 500 GB NVMe, 12.3" 1920x1280 3:2 touch screen.\n
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        - the battery isn’t deformed and doesn’t exert pressure on the screen or any cables; also tried running it with the screen slightly lifted from the case, no change\n
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        - same issues in Windows 11, Ubuntu 23.04 and Fedora WS 38; rarely but sometimes in BIOS/during boot\n
        - sadly, can’t undervolt the CPU/GPU (Throttlestop FIVER says it’s locked) but some MSR writes are apparently OK (like disabling BD_PROCHOT works).\n
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        so, I’m sure this is NOT a linux hardware problem, but I would like to use linux to fix the problem. at this point, I am sure it’s defective, whether it’s age or physical or manufacturing defect or whatever; but since it definitely works perfectly without the battery, I’m looking for some tweaks that makes it perform *with* the battery the same as *without* it.\n
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        seriously doubt anyone’s seen anything similar but are there any ideas what to look at? what to try?\n
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        so, I have a weird problem with a Dell Latitude 5285, that’s a 2-in-1 with a detachable keyboard akin to the MS Surface Pro 5. it has an i5-7300u, 16 GB LPDDR3 (on-board), 500 GB NVMe, 12.3" 1920x1280 3:2 touch screen.\n
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        - pressing, jerking, wiggling of the internal display cable/connector, no change\n
        - same issues in Windows 11, Ubuntu 23.04 and Fedora WS 38; rarely but sometimes in BIOS/during boot\n
        - sadly, can’t undervolt the CPU/GPU (Throttlestop FIVER says it’s locked) but some MSR writes are apparently OK (like disabling BD_PROCHOT works).\n
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        so, I’m sure this is NOT a linux hardware problem, but I would like to use linux to fix the problem. at this point, I am sure it’s defective, whether it’s age or physical or manufacturing defect or whatever; but since it definitely works perfectly without the battery, I’m looking for some tweaks that makes it perform *with* the battery the same as *without* it.\n
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        seriously doubt anyone’s seen anything similar but are there any ideas what to look at? what to try?\n
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        so, I have a weird problem with a Dell Latitude 5285, that’s a 2-in-1 with a detachable keyboard akin to the MS Surface Pro 5. it has an i5-7300u, 16 GB LPDDR3 (on-board), 500 GB NVMe, 12.3" 1920x1280 3:2 touch screen.\n
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      so, I have a weird problem with a Dell Latitude 5285, that’s a 2-in-1 with a detachable keyboard akin to the MS Surface Pro 5. it has an i5-7300u, 16 GB LPDDR3 (on-board), 500 GB NVMe, 12.3" 1920x1280 3:2 touch screen.\n
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        so, I have a weird problem with a Dell Latitude 5285, that’s a 2-in-1 with a detachable keyboard akin to the MS Surface Pro 5. it has an i5-7300u, 16 GB LPDDR3 (on-board), 500 GB NVMe, 12.3" 1920x1280 3:2 touch screen.\n
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        so, I have a weird problem with a Dell Latitude 5285, that’s a 2-in-1 with a detachable keyboard akin to the MS Surface Pro 5. it has an i5-7300u, 16 GB LPDDR3 (on-board), 500 GB NVMe, 12.3" 1920x1280 3:2 touch screen.\n
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        - latest firmware, tried downgrading, no change\n
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        - sadly, can’t undervolt the CPU/GPU (Throttlestop FIVER says it’s locked) but some MSR writes are apparently OK (like disabling BD_PROCHOT works).\n
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        so, I’m sure this is NOT a linux hardware problem, but I would like to use linux to fix the problem. at this point, I am sure it’s defective, whether it’s age or physical or manufacturing defect or whatever; but since it definitely works perfectly without the battery, I’m looking for some tweaks that makes it perform *with* the battery the same as *without* it.\n
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        seriously doubt anyone’s seen anything similar but are there any ideas what to look at? what to try?\n
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        so, I have a weird problem with a Dell Latitude 5285, that’s a 2-in-1 with a detachable keyboard akin to the MS Surface Pro 5. it has an i5-7300u, 16 GB LPDDR3 (on-board), 500 GB NVMe, 12.3" 1920x1280 3:2 touch screen.\n
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        so, I have a weird problem with a Dell Latitude 5285, that’s a 2-in-1 with a detachable keyboard akin to the MS Surface Pro 5. it has an i5-7300u, 16 GB LPDDR3 (on-board), 500 GB NVMe, 12.3" 1920x1280 3:2 touch screen.\n
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        - the battery isn’t deformed and doesn’t exert pressure on the screen or any cables; also tried running it with the screen slightly lifted from the case, no change\n
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        so, I have a weird problem with a Dell Latitude 5285, that’s a 2-in-1 with a detachable keyboard akin to the MS Surface Pro 5. it has an i5-7300u, 16 GB LPDDR3 (on-board), 500 GB NVMe, 12.3" 1920x1280 3:2 touch screen.\n
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        - latest firmware, tried downgrading, no change\n
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        - internal diagnostics also\n
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        - the battery isn’t deformed and doesn’t exert pressure on the screen or any cables; also tried running it with the screen slightly lifted from the case, no change\n
        - pressing, jerking, wiggling of the internal display cable/connector, no change\n
        - same issues in Windows 11, Ubuntu 23.04 and Fedora WS 38; rarely but sometimes in BIOS/during boot\n
        - sadly, can’t undervolt the CPU/GPU (Throttlestop FIVER says it’s locked) but some MSR writes are apparently OK (like disabling BD_PROCHOT works).\n
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        so, I’m sure this is NOT a linux hardware problem, but I would like to use linux to fix the problem. at this point, I am sure it’s defective, whether it’s age or physical or manufacturing defect or whatever; but since it definitely works perfectly without the battery, I’m looking for some tweaks that makes it perform *with* the battery the same as *without* it.\n
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        seriously doubt anyone’s seen anything similar but are there any ideas what to look at? what to try?\n
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      so, I have a weird problem with a Dell Latitude 5285, that’s a 2-in-1 with a detachable keyboard akin to the MS Surface Pro 5. it has an i5-7300u, 16 GB LPDDR3 (on-board), 500 GB NVMe, 12.3" 1920x1280 3:2 touch screen.\n
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      - sadly, can’t undervolt the CPU/GPU (Throttlestop FIVER says it’s locked) but some MSR writes are apparently OK (like disabling BD_PROCHOT works).\n
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      seriously doubt anyone’s seen anything similar but are there any ideas what to look at? what to try?\n
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      so, I have a weird problem with a Dell Latitude 5285, that’s a 2-in-1 with a detachable keyboard akin to the MS Surface Pro 5. it has an i5-7300u, 16 GB LPDDR3 (on-board), 500 GB NVMe, 12.3" 1920x1280 3:2 touch screen.\n
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      would be great if I could try a different battery or try this one in another device, but don’t have that option.\n
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      - latest firmware, tried downgrading, no change\n
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      - sadly, can’t undervolt the CPU/GPU (Throttlestop FIVER says it’s locked) but some MSR writes are apparently OK (like disabling BD_PROCHOT works).\n
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      so, I’m sure this is NOT a linux hardware problem, but I would like to use linux to fix the problem. at this point, I am sure it’s defective, whether it’s age or physical or manufacturing defect or whatever; but since it definitely works perfectly without the battery, I’m looking for some tweaks that makes it perform *with* the battery the same as *without* it.\n
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      seriously doubt anyone’s seen anything similar but are there any ideas what to look at? what to try?\n
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      edit: I’m not asking for free hardware troubleshooting, maybe I haven’t expressed myself succintly. what I’d like is some sort of snapshot of all relevant registers with battery working. and then one without. and then have somehow the difference between those two computed, so I can see which setting I need to tweak. would this be doable?
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        so, I have a weird problem with a Dell Latitude 5285, that’s a 2-in-1 with a detachable keyboard akin to the MS Surface Pro 5. it has an i5-7300u, 16 GB LPDDR3 (on-board), 500 GB NVMe, 12.3" 1920x1280 3:2 touch screen.\n
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        the artefacts are inconsistent with anything that is or isn’t happening (load, temps, etc) or power source. the problem is mostly exacerbated when the battery is full and/or when waking from sleep, it’s almost always super glitchy then.\n
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        - sadly, can’t undervolt the CPU/GPU (Throttlestop FIVER says it’s locked) but some MSR writes are apparently OK (like disabling BD_PROCHOT works).\n
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        edit: I’m not asking for free hardware troubleshooting, maybe I haven’t expressed myself succintly. what I’d like is some sort of snapshot of all relevant registers with battery working. and then one without. and then have somehow the difference between those two computed, so I can see which setting I need to tweak. would this be doable?
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        so, I have a weird problem with a Dell Latitude 5285, that’s a 2-in-1 with a detachable keyboard akin to the MS Surface Pro 5. it has an i5-7300u, 16 GB LPDDR3 (on-board), 500 GB NVMe, 12.3" 1920x1280 3:2 touch screen.\n
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        - disabling turbo, upping/lowering the max/boost GPU clock, forcing cores offline, limiting max frequencies with TLP\n
        - the battery isn’t deformed and doesn’t exert pressure on the screen or any cables; also tried running it with the screen slightly lifted from the case, no change\n
        - pressing, jerking, wiggling of the internal display cable/connector, no change\n
        - same issues in Windows 11, Ubuntu 23.04 and Fedora WS 38; rarely but sometimes in BIOS/during boot\n
        - sadly, can’t undervolt the CPU/GPU (Throttlestop FIVER says it’s locked) but some MSR writes are apparently OK (like disabling BD_PROCHOT works).\n
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        so, I’m sure this is NOT a linux hardware problem, but I would like to use linux to fix the problem. at this point, I am sure it’s defective, whether it’s age or physical or manufacturing defect or whatever; but since it definitely works perfectly without the battery, I’m looking for some tweaks that makes it perform *with* the battery the same as *without* it.\n
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        seriously doubt anyone’s seen anything similar but are there any ideas what to look at? what to try?\n
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        you have faulty hardware, whether it’s RAM or cooling or storage related, no way to tell but crashes like that don’t happen nowadays.\n
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App\Twig\Components\UserSettingsRowSwitchComponent {#13930
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App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#14266
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App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#14322
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App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#10821
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App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowEnumComponent {#7501
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App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#10170
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App\Twig\Components\RelatedCategoriesComponent {#14570
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App\Twig\Components\RelatedPostsComponent {#14641
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App\Twig\Components\RelatedEntriesComponent {#14711
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