GET https://kbin.spritesserver.nl/u/@andrybak@startrek.website/comments/active

Response
200 OK
IP
3.137.171.71
Profiled on
Token
437d9d

Security

Token

There is no security token.

Firewall

main Name
Security enabled
Stateless

Configuration

Key Value
provider security.user.provider.concrete.app_user_provider
context main
entry_point App\Security\KbinAuthenticator
user_checker App\Security\UserChecker
access_denied_handler (none)
access_denied_url (none)
authenticators 
[
  "two_factor"
  "remember_me"
  "App\Security\KbinAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\FacebookAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\GoogleAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\GithubAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\KeycloakAuthenticator"
]

Listeners

Listener Duration Response 
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\ChannelListener {#723
  -map: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\AccessMap {#722 …}
  -logger: Monolog\Logger {#783 …}
  -httpPort: 80
  -httpsPort: 443
}
 0.00 ms (none) 
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\ContextListener {#706
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\TokenStorage {#1017 …}
  -sessionKey: "_security_main"
  -logger: Monolog\Logger {#783 …}
  -userProviders: Symfony\Component\DependencyInjection\Argument\RewindableGenerator {#705 …}
  -dispatcher: Symfony\Component\EventDispatcher\Debug\TraceableEventDispatcher {#747 …}
  -registered: false
  -trustResolver: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authentication\AuthenticationTrustResolver {#780 …}
  -sessionTrackerEnabler: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage::enableUsageTracking(): void {#703 …}
}
 0.23 ms (none) 
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\AuthenticatorManagerListener {#584
  -authenticatorManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Authentication\AuthenticatorManager {#595 …}
}
 0.00 ms (none) 
Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Http\Firewall\TwoFactorAccessListener {#582
  -twoFactorFirewallConfig: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\TwoFactor\TwoFactorFirewallConfig {#842 …}
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -twoFactorAccessDecider: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\TwoFactorAccessDecider {#581 …}
}
 0.05 ms (none) 
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\AccessListener {#579
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -accessDecisionManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\TraceableAccessDecisionManager {#937 …}
  -map: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\AccessMap {#722 …}
}
 0.00 ms (none) 
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\LogoutListener {#786
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -options: [
    "csrf_parameter" => "_csrf_token"
    "csrf_token_id" => "logout"
    "logout_path" => "app_logout"
  ]
  -httpUtils: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\HttpUtils {#841 …}
  -csrfTokenManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Csrf\CsrfTokenManager {#1015 …}
  -eventDispatcher: Symfony\Component\EventDispatcher\Debug\TraceableEventDispatcher {#747 …}
}
 0.00 ms (none)

Authenticators

No authenticators have been recorded. Check previous profiles on your authentication endpoint.

Access Decision

affirmative Strategy
# Voter class
1 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\AuthenticatedVoter"
2 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
3 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
4 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\ExpressionVoter"
5 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
6 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
7 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
8 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
9 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
10 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
11 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
12 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
13 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
14 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"

Access decision log

# Result Attributes Object
1 DENIED ROLE_USER 
null
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
2 DENIED moderate 
App\Entity\EntryComment {#2036
  +user: App\Entity\User {#265 …}
  +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1909 …}
  +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#2372 …}
  +image: null
  +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1402 …}
  +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1402 …}
  +body: "Rumpelstielchen looks like Andy Serkis to me."
  +lang: "en"
  +isAdult: false
  +favouriteCount: 1
  +score: 0
  +lastActive: DateTime @1700417997 {#2097
    date: 2023-11-19 19:19:57.0 +01:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +tags: null
  +mentions: [
    "@FauxPseudo@lemmy.world"
    "@avater@lemmy.world"
  ]
  +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1405 …}
  +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1401 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1363 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1362 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2377 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2360 …}
  -id: 140480
  -bodyTs: "'andi':4 'like':3 'look':2 'rumpelstielchen':1 'serki':5"
  +ranking: 0
  +commentCount: 0
  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://startrek.website/comment/4311499"
  +editedAt: null
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1700417997 {#1708
    date: 2023-11-19 19:19:57.0 +01:00
  }
}
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
3 DENIED edit 
App\Entity\EntryComment {#2036
  +user: App\Entity\User {#265 …}
  +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1909 …}
  +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#2372 …}
  +image: null
  +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1402 …}
  +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1402 …}
  +body: "Rumpelstielchen looks like Andy Serkis to me."
  +lang: "en"
  +isAdult: false
  +favouriteCount: 1
  +score: 0
  +lastActive: DateTime @1700417997 {#2097
    date: 2023-11-19 19:19:57.0 +01:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +tags: null
  +mentions: [
    "@FauxPseudo@lemmy.world"
    "@avater@lemmy.world"
  ]
  +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1405 …}
  +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1401 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1363 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1362 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2377 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2360 …}
  -id: 140480
  -bodyTs: "'andi':4 'like':3 'look':2 'rumpelstielchen':1 'serki':5"
  +ranking: 0
  +commentCount: 0
  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://startrek.website/comment/4311499"
  +editedAt: null
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1700417997 {#1708
    date: 2023-11-19 19:19:57.0 +01:00
  }
}
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
4 DENIED moderate 
App\Entity\EntryComment {#2036
  +user: App\Entity\User {#265 …}
  +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1909 …}
  +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#2372 …}
  +image: null
  +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1402 …}
  +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1402 …}
  +body: "Rumpelstielchen looks like Andy Serkis to me."
  +lang: "en"
  +isAdult: false
  +favouriteCount: 1
  +score: 0
  +lastActive: DateTime @1700417997 {#2097
    date: 2023-11-19 19:19:57.0 +01:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +tags: null
  +mentions: [
    "@FauxPseudo@lemmy.world"
    "@avater@lemmy.world"
  ]
  +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1405 …}
  +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1401 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1363 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1362 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2377 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2360 …}
  -id: 140480
  -bodyTs: "'andi':4 'like':3 'look':2 'rumpelstielchen':1 'serki':5"
  +ranking: 0
  +commentCount: 0
  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://startrek.website/comment/4311499"
  +editedAt: null
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1700417997 {#1708
    date: 2023-11-19 19:19:57.0 +01:00
  }
}
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
5 DENIED ROLE_USER 
null
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
6 DENIED moderate 
App\Entity\EntryComment {#2347
  +user: App\Entity\User {#265 …}
  +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#2191 …}
  +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#2328 …}
  +image: null
  +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#2092 …}
  +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#2078 …}
  +body: """
    I assume this will have to be a *streaming* service, as opposed to a *download* service for various reasons. Here are some points related to it:\n
    \n
    1. Skype (the video/voice call and chat application) used to be federated in a similar way on desktops until late 2000s. Users with available bandwidth were treated as nodes. People even reported, that sometimes, whenever Internet wasn’t working, Skype was the only thing that continued to work — because someone on the same network was a node at the time and their Internet was working.\n
        \n
        This all broke down due to the advent of mobile devices. Phones cannot be used as such nodes for traffic. Nobody was going to put up with Skype draining both your data (if your tariff/contract has data limit) and your phone battery. This feature of Skype is long gone now.\n
        \n
        Similarly, too many people are using Spotify on the go. People would have to pay way more for using such a “torrented” service via phone apps.\n
    2. The different nodes in such network will have vastly different bandwidth, which makes it more complicated to maintain a consistent stream (i.e. with not buffering, stuttering, etc). Regular BitTorrent downloads don’t care, because they usually aren’t streamed. However, it’s possible to make BitTorrent downloads more favorable to streaming the content by forcing downloads of chunks of files in order.\n
    3. The nodes in such service need to manage bandwidth for obvious reasons. They would also need to manage storage – the music, the audiobooks, and the podcasts need to be stored somewhere. Also, the nodes would need to manage CPU (or GPU or whatever) for encoding/reencoding/whatever. Managing resources (using them, allocating, throttling, deallocating) on a computer that you don’t control is extremely hard, which is an additional layer of complexity. It is even hard on computers that you do control ([this video explains why](https://vimeo.com/95066828)).\n
    4. Apparently podcast apps [Juice](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juice_(aggregator)) and [Miro](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miro_(video_software)) support [BitTorrent](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BitTorrent#Film,_video,_and_music), but I don’t know anything about it. They download the whole thing, i.e. don’t stream, as far as I can tell.\n
    5. See also:
    """
  +lang: "en"
  +isAdult: false
  +favouriteCount: 6
  +score: 0
  +lastActive: DateTime @1700275194 {#2144
    date: 2023-11-18 03:39:54.0 +01:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +tags: null
  +mentions: [
    "@WeebLife@lemmy.world"
    "@floofloof@lemmy.ca"
    "@Aatube@kbin.social"
    "@Kidplayer_666@lemm.ee"
    "@shalafi@lemmy.world"
  ]
  +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2333 …}
  +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2325 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2086 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2042 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2164 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2141 …}
  -id: 135762
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  +ranking: 0
  +commentCount: 0
  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://startrek.website/comment/4268646"
  +editedAt: DateTimeImmutable @1700583203 {#2061
    date: 2023-11-21 17:13:23.0 +01:00
  }
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1700275194 {#2076
    date: 2023-11-18 03:39:54.0 +01:00
  }
}
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
7 DENIED edit 
App\Entity\EntryComment {#2347
  +user: App\Entity\User {#265 …}
  +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#2191 …}
  +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#2328 …}
  +image: null
  +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#2092 …}
  +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#2078 …}
  +body: """
    I assume this will have to be a *streaming* service, as opposed to a *download* service for various reasons. Here are some points related to it:\n
    \n
    1. Skype (the video/voice call and chat application) used to be federated in a similar way on desktops until late 2000s. Users with available bandwidth were treated as nodes. People even reported, that sometimes, whenever Internet wasn’t working, Skype was the only thing that continued to work — because someone on the same network was a node at the time and their Internet was working.\n
        \n
        This all broke down due to the advent of mobile devices. Phones cannot be used as such nodes for traffic. Nobody was going to put up with Skype draining both your data (if your tariff/contract has data limit) and your phone battery. This feature of Skype is long gone now.\n
        \n
        Similarly, too many people are using Spotify on the go. People would have to pay way more for using such a “torrented” service via phone apps.\n
    2. The different nodes in such network will have vastly different bandwidth, which makes it more complicated to maintain a consistent stream (i.e. with not buffering, stuttering, etc). Regular BitTorrent downloads don’t care, because they usually aren’t streamed. However, it’s possible to make BitTorrent downloads more favorable to streaming the content by forcing downloads of chunks of files in order.\n
    3. The nodes in such service need to manage bandwidth for obvious reasons. They would also need to manage storage – the music, the audiobooks, and the podcasts need to be stored somewhere. Also, the nodes would need to manage CPU (or GPU or whatever) for encoding/reencoding/whatever. Managing resources (using them, allocating, throttling, deallocating) on a computer that you don’t control is extremely hard, which is an additional layer of complexity. It is even hard on computers that you do control ([this video explains why](https://vimeo.com/95066828)).\n
    4. Apparently podcast apps [Juice](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juice_(aggregator)) and [Miro](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miro_(video_software)) support [BitTorrent](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BitTorrent#Film,_video,_and_music), but I don’t know anything about it. They download the whole thing, i.e. don’t stream, as far as I can tell.\n
    5. See also:
    """
  +lang: "en"
  +isAdult: false
  +favouriteCount: 6
  +score: 0
  +lastActive: DateTime @1700275194 {#2144
    date: 2023-11-18 03:39:54.0 +01:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +tags: null
  +mentions: [
    "@WeebLife@lemmy.world"
    "@floofloof@lemmy.ca"
    "@Aatube@kbin.social"
    "@Kidplayer_666@lemm.ee"
    "@shalafi@lemmy.world"
  ]
  +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2333 …}
  +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2325 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2086 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2042 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2164 …}
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    I assume this will have to be a *streaming* service, as opposed to a *download* service for various reasons. Here are some points related to it:\n
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    1. Skype (the video/voice call and chat application) used to be federated in a similar way on desktops until late 2000s. Users with available bandwidth were treated as nodes. People even reported, that sometimes, whenever Internet wasn’t working, Skype was the only thing that continued to work — because someone on the same network was a node at the time and their Internet was working.\n
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        This all broke down due to the advent of mobile devices. Phones cannot be used as such nodes for traffic. Nobody was going to put up with Skype draining both your data (if your tariff/contract has data limit) and your phone battery. This feature of Skype is long gone now.\n
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        Similarly, too many people are using Spotify on the go. People would have to pay way more for using such a “torrented” service via phone apps.\n
    2. The different nodes in such network will have vastly different bandwidth, which makes it more complicated to maintain a consistent stream (i.e. with not buffering, stuttering, etc). Regular BitTorrent downloads don’t care, because they usually aren’t streamed. However, it’s possible to make BitTorrent downloads more favorable to streaming the content by forcing downloads of chunks of files in order.\n
    3. The nodes in such service need to manage bandwidth for obvious reasons. They would also need to manage storage – the music, the audiobooks, and the podcasts need to be stored somewhere. Also, the nodes would need to manage CPU (or GPU or whatever) for encoding/reencoding/whatever. Managing resources (using them, allocating, throttling, deallocating) on a computer that you don’t control is extremely hard, which is an additional layer of complexity. It is even hard on computers that you do control ([this video explains why](https://vimeo.com/95066828)).\n
    4. Apparently podcast apps [Juice](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juice_(aggregator)) and [Miro](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miro_(video_software)) support [BitTorrent](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BitTorrent#Film,_video,_and_music), but I don’t know anything about it. They download the whole thing, i.e. don’t stream, as far as I can tell.\n
    5. See also:
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