Components

24 Twig Components
90 Render Count
1042 ms Render Time
12.0 MiB Memory Usage

Components

Name Metadata Render Count Render Time
settings_row_switch
"App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent"
components/_settings_row_switch.html.twig
15 19.97ms
date
"App\Twig\Components\DateComponent"
components/date.html.twig
9 10.18ms
user_inline
"App\Twig\Components\UserInlineComponent"
components/user_inline.html.twig
8 11.79ms
date_edited
"App\Twig\Components\DateEditedComponent"
components/date_edited.html.twig
7 4.88ms
vote
"App\Twig\Components\VoteComponent"
components/vote.html.twig
7 7.92ms
boost
"App\Twig\Components\BoostComponent"
components/boost.html.twig
7 38.36ms
entry_comment
"App\Twig\Components\EntryCommentComponent"
components/entry_comment.html.twig
6 460.16ms
user_avatar
"App\Twig\Components\UserAvatarComponent"
components/user_avatar.html.twig
6 26.16ms
entry_comments_nested
"App\Twig\Components\EntryCommentsNestedComponent"
components/_cached.html.twig
6 114.43ms
user_settings_row_switch
"App\Twig\Components\UserSettingsRowSwitchComponent"
components/_user_settings_row_switch.html.twig
4 5.58ms
settings_row_enum
"App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowEnumComponent"
components/_settings_row_enum.html.twig
2 0.86ms
entry
"App\Twig\Components\EntryComponent"
components/_cached.html.twig
1 61.88ms
entries_cross
"App\Twig\Components\EntriesCrossComponent"
components/_cached.html.twig
1 244.37ms
editor_toolbar
"App\Twig\Components\EditorToolbarComponent"
components/editor_toolbar.html.twig
1 6.61ms
user_actions
"App\Twig\Components\UserActionsComponent"
components/user_actions.html.twig
1 0.68ms
magazine_box
"App\Twig\Components\MagazineBoxComponent"
components/magazine_box.html.twig
1 30.49ms
magazine_sub
"App\Twig\Components\MagazineSubComponent"
components/magazine_sub.html.twig
1 0.88ms
related_magazines
"App\Twig\Components\RelatedMagazinesComponent"
components/_cached.html.twig
1 15.38ms
active_users
"App\Twig\Components\ActiveUsersComponent"
components/_cached.html.twig
1 1.55ms
related_categories
"App\Twig\Components\RelatedCategoriesComponent"
components/_cached.html.twig
1 11.27ms
related_posts
"App\Twig\Components\RelatedPostsComponent"
components/_cached.html.twig
1 62.32ms
related_entries
"App\Twig\Components\RelatedEntriesComponent"
components/_cached.html.twig
1 166.14ms
support_us_block
"App\Twig\Components\SupportUsBlock"
components/_cached.html.twig
1 0.41ms
featured_magazines
"App\Twig\Components\FeaturedMagazinesComponent"
components/_cached.html.twig
1 3.53ms

Render calls

entry App\Twig\Components\EntryComponent 12.0 MiB 61.88 ms
Input props
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      +name: "asklemmy@lemmy.world"
      +title: "asklemmy"
      +description: """
        A Fediverse community for open-ended, thought provoking questions\n
        -----------------------------------------------------------------\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        **Rules: (interactive)**\n
        ------------------------\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        1) Be nice and; have funDoxxing, trolling, sealioning, racism, and toxicity are not welcomed in AskLemmy. Remember what your mother said: if you can’t say something nice, don’t say anything at all. In addition, the site-wide Lemmy.world terms of service also apply here. [Please familiarize yourself with them](https://legal.lemmy.world/tos/)\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        2) All posts must end with a '?'This is sort of like Jeopardy. Please phrase all post titles in the form of a proper question ending with ?\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        3) No spamPlease do not flood the community with nonsense. Actual suspected spammers will be banned on site. No astroturfing.\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        4) NSFW is okay, within reasonJust remember to tag posts with either a content warning or a [NSFW] tag. Overtly sexual posts are not allowed, please direct them to either [!asklemmyafterdark@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/asklemmyafterdark) or [!asklemmynsfw@lemmynsfw.com](https://lemmynsfw.com/c/asklemmynsfw). NSFW comments should be restricted to posts tagged [NSFW].\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        5) This is not a support community.It is not a place for ‘how do I?’, type questions. If you have any questions regarding the site itself or would like to report a community, please direct them to [Lemmy.world Support](https://lemmy.world/c/support) or email info@lemmy.world. For other questions check our partnered communities list, or use the search function.\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        Reminder: The [terms of service](https://legal.lemmy.world/tos/) apply here too.\n
        \n
        Partnered Communities:\n
        ----------------------\n
        \n
        [Tech Support](/c/techsupport@lemmy.world)\n
        \n
        [No Stupid Questions](/c/nostupidquestions@lemmy.world)\n
        \n
        [You Should Know](/c/youshouldknow@lemmy.world)\n
        \n
        [Reddit](/c/reddit@lemmy.world)\n
        \n
        [Jokes](/c/jokes@lemmy.world)\n
        \n
        [Ask Ouija](/c/askouija@lemmy.world)\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        Logo design credit goes to: [tubbadu](/u/tubbadu@lemmy.world)\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        ![](https://img.shields.io/lemmy/asklemmy%40lemmy.world?logo=lemmy&label=Total%20Subscribers)
        """
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    +slug: "Software-Developers-and-amp-Tech-Lemmings-I-Am-A-Returning-Student"
    +title: "Software Developers & Tech Lemmings - I Am A Returning Student Looking to Crowdsource Opinions on What College Program to Undertake"
    +url: null
    +body: """
      Greetings fellow Lemmings,\n
      \n
      I know this is a community that has a strong backbone in the Software and Technology space. I am a returning student in my mid-30’s that is returning to college as a way to pursue a career change. I am looking to crowdsource opinions from experienced tech professionals so I can make good quality, informed decisions about how I move forward with my educational and career goals.\n
      \n
      With that being said my question is how would you proceed between the programs I have linked below? I am starting at a STEM focused community college (***Bellevue College***) in the Pacific Northwest. My long term goal is to either transfer to another four year institution (like ***UW Bothell***) grade permitting, or perhaps finish a four year degree from this institution. This is where your advice comes in, and where I believe I need better outside perspective to make a good decision.\n
      \n
      **Option #1 (Software Development - Application Development Track)**This is where I have been leaning because it seems to afford me the largest number of future options with the direction I take my education. Most importantly I think it sets me up in the best position to make the potential transition to the University of Washington Bothell’s Computer Science & Software Engineering program. The Application Development track has a stronger focus on C# & .NET framework programming languages, which seems to provide a better foundation for more potential job opportunities at the moment.\n
      \n
      **Option #2 (Software Development - Artificial Intelligence Track)**Artificial Intelligence is obviously the buzzword of the moment. However, I am wondering if I am robbing myself of options by over-specializing this early in the process, and I also have concerns about focusing my learning process so heavily on Python when that seems to be something that is not used as a standard backbone language for more enterprise level businesses. I also don’t have any interest in the robotics area of this degree, as I don’t see that as being something I would look to pursue in my career. I do want to be conscientious about learning whatever is going to provide me the most future utility, therefore, I am wondering if this is the way to go for that reason.\n
      \n
      [Link to Program Information](https://catalog.bellevuecollege.edu/preview_program.php?catoid=12&poid=2932&returnto=594)\n
      \n
      Ultimately, I am open to any and all advice, recommendations, and wisdom that my fellow Lemmings have to provide. My previous background was in a completely unrelated field, but I have always had a passion for technology and I am a quick learner with a lean lifestyle and no external distractions. Completing this process and securing employment will be my focus 100% for the next 3-4 years. With that in mind, tell me what you think.\n
      \n
      - Where should I go with my education?\n
      - What pitfalls should I avoid?\n
      - When should I specialize?\n
      - Am I crazy for doing this later in life?\n
      \n
      **Hit me with anything you’ve got Lemmy, it is all appreciated!**\n
      \n
      **Edit:** I’m watching the NFC Championship Game, but I will respond to all of you as soon as it is over. Really appreciate all the responses so far!
      """
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Component
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      I know this is a community that has a strong backbone in the Software and Technology space. I am a returning student in my mid-30’s that is returning to college as a way to pursue a career change. I am looking to crowdsource opinions from experienced tech professionals so I can make good quality, informed decisions about how I move forward with my educational and career goals.\n
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      **Hit me with anything you’ve got Lemmy, it is all appreciated!**\n
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      **Edit:** I’m watching the NFC Championship Game, but I will respond to all of you as soon as it is over. Really appreciate all the responses so far!
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      With that being said my question is how would you proceed between the programs I have linked below? I am starting at a STEM focused community college (***Bellevue College***) in the Pacific Northwest. My long term goal is to either transfer to another four year institution (like ***UW Bothell***) grade permitting, or perhaps finish a four year degree from this institution. This is where your advice comes in, and where I believe I need better outside perspective to make a good decision.\n
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      **Edit:** I’m watching the NFC Championship Game, but I will respond to all of you as soon as it is over. Really appreciate all the responses so far!
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      **Hit me with anything you’ve got Lemmy, it is all appreciated!**\n
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      **Edit:** I’m watching the NFC Championship Game, but I will respond to all of you as soon as it is over. Really appreciate all the responses so far!
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      With that being said my question is how would you proceed between the programs I have linked below? I am starting at a STEM focused community college (***Bellevue College***) in the Pacific Northwest. My long term goal is to either transfer to another four year institution (like ***UW Bothell***) grade permitting, or perhaps finish a four year degree from this institution. This is where your advice comes in, and where I believe I need better outside perspective to make a good decision.\n
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      **Edit:** I’m watching the NFC Championship Game, but I will respond to all of you as soon as it is over. Really appreciate all the responses so far!
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      Greetings fellow Lemmings,\n
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      I know this is a community that has a strong backbone in the Software and Technology space. I am a returning student in my mid-30’s that is returning to college as a way to pursue a career change. I am looking to crowdsource opinions from experienced tech professionals so I can make good quality, informed decisions about how I move forward with my educational and career goals.\n
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      With that being said my question is how would you proceed between the programs I have linked below? I am starting at a STEM focused community college (***Bellevue College***) in the Pacific Northwest. My long term goal is to either transfer to another four year institution (like ***UW Bothell***) grade permitting, or perhaps finish a four year degree from this institution. This is where your advice comes in, and where I believe I need better outside perspective to make a good decision.\n
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      **Option #1 (Software Development - Application Development Track)**This is where I have been leaning because it seems to afford me the largest number of future options with the direction I take my education. Most importantly I think it sets me up in the best position to make the potential transition to the University of Washington Bothell’s Computer Science & Software Engineering program. The Application Development track has a stronger focus on C# & .NET framework programming languages, which seems to provide a better foundation for more potential job opportunities at the moment.\n
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      **Option #2 (Software Development - Artificial Intelligence Track)**Artificial Intelligence is obviously the buzzword of the moment. However, I am wondering if I am robbing myself of options by over-specializing this early in the process, and I also have concerns about focusing my learning process so heavily on Python when that seems to be something that is not used as a standard backbone language for more enterprise level businesses. I also don’t have any interest in the robotics area of this degree, as I don’t see that as being something I would look to pursue in my career. I do want to be conscientious about learning whatever is going to provide me the most future utility, therefore, I am wondering if this is the way to go for that reason.\n
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      [Link to Program Information](https://catalog.bellevuecollege.edu/preview_program.php?catoid=12&poid=2932&returnto=594)\n
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      Ultimately, I am open to any and all advice, recommendations, and wisdom that my fellow Lemmings have to provide. My previous background was in a completely unrelated field, but I have always had a passion for technology and I am a quick learner with a lean lifestyle and no external distractions. Completing this process and securing employment will be my focus 100% for the next 3-4 years. With that in mind, tell me what you think.\n
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      **Hit me with anything you’ve got Lemmy, it is all appreciated!**\n
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      **Edit:** I’m watching the NFC Championship Game, but I will respond to all of you as soon as it is over. Really appreciate all the responses so far!
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      **Option #1 (Software Development - Application Development Track)**This is where I have been leaning because it seems to afford me the largest number of future options with the direction I take my education. Most importantly I think it sets me up in the best position to make the potential transition to the University of Washington Bothell’s Computer Science & Software Engineering program. The Application Development track has a stronger focus on C# & .NET framework programming languages, which seems to provide a better foundation for more potential job opportunities at the moment.\n
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      **Option #2 (Software Development - Artificial Intelligence Track)**Artificial Intelligence is obviously the buzzword of the moment. However, I am wondering if I am robbing myself of options by over-specializing this early in the process, and I also have concerns about focusing my learning process so heavily on Python when that seems to be something that is not used as a standard backbone language for more enterprise level businesses. I also don’t have any interest in the robotics area of this degree, as I don’t see that as being something I would look to pursue in my career. I do want to be conscientious about learning whatever is going to provide me the most future utility, therefore, I am wondering if this is the way to go for that reason.\n
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      [Link to Program Information](https://catalog.bellevuecollege.edu/preview_program.php?catoid=12&poid=2932&returnto=594)\n
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      - What pitfalls should I avoid?\n
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      - Am I crazy for doing this later in life?\n
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      **Hit me with anything you’ve got Lemmy, it is all appreciated!**\n
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      **Edit:** I’m watching the NFC Championship Game, but I will respond to all of you as soon as it is over. Really appreciate all the responses so far!
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        Greetings fellow Lemmings,\n
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        I know this is a community that has a strong backbone in the Software and Technology space. I am a returning student in my mid-30’s that is returning to college as a way to pursue a career change. I am looking to crowdsource opinions from experienced tech professionals so I can make good quality, informed decisions about how I move forward with my educational and career goals.\n
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        With that being said my question is how would you proceed between the programs I have linked below? I am starting at a STEM focused community college (***Bellevue College***) in the Pacific Northwest. My long term goal is to either transfer to another four year institution (like ***UW Bothell***) grade permitting, or perhaps finish a four year degree from this institution. This is where your advice comes in, and where I believe I need better outside perspective to make a good decision.\n
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        **Option #1 (Software Development - Application Development Track)**This is where I have been leaning because it seems to afford me the largest number of future options with the direction I take my education. Most importantly I think it sets me up in the best position to make the potential transition to the University of Washington Bothell’s Computer Science & Software Engineering program. The Application Development track has a stronger focus on C# & .NET framework programming languages, which seems to provide a better foundation for more potential job opportunities at the moment.\n
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        **Option #2 (Software Development - Artificial Intelligence Track)**Artificial Intelligence is obviously the buzzword of the moment. However, I am wondering if I am robbing myself of options by over-specializing this early in the process, and I also have concerns about focusing my learning process so heavily on Python when that seems to be something that is not used as a standard backbone language for more enterprise level businesses. I also don’t have any interest in the robotics area of this degree, as I don’t see that as being something I would look to pursue in my career. I do want to be conscientious about learning whatever is going to provide me the most future utility, therefore, I am wondering if this is the way to go for that reason.\n
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        [Link to Program Information](https://catalog.bellevuecollege.edu/preview_program.php?catoid=12&poid=2932&returnto=594)\n
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        Ultimately, I am open to any and all advice, recommendations, and wisdom that my fellow Lemmings have to provide. My previous background was in a completely unrelated field, but I have always had a passion for technology and I am a quick learner with a lean lifestyle and no external distractions. Completing this process and securing employment will be my focus 100% for the next 3-4 years. With that in mind, tell me what you think.\n
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        - What pitfalls should I avoid?\n
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        - Am I crazy for doing this later in life?\n
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        **Hit me with anything you’ve got Lemmy, it is all appreciated!**\n
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        **Edit:** I’m watching the NFC Championship Game, but I will respond to all of you as soon as it is over. Really appreciate all the responses so far!
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      I got a BS in CS with an AI specialization about 10 years ago and the AI part resulted in absolutely nothing professionally, even though I applied to just as many AI jobs as non-AI. I don’t regret it though, because the classes interested me deeply on an academic level and going to college wasn’t solely about career prep for me.\n
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      > Python … seems to be something that is not used as a standard backbone language for more enterprise level businesses\n
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      This is just flat out incorrect. Sure, very few enterprise programs are built *entirely* with Python, but many have components written in Python (especially in web), and Python is also a popular choice for build scripts and other internal software development tools. Python makes the process of going from idea to working program faster than any other language, which the bean counters like, so trust me, you will see Python everywhere in the industry.\n
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      One last thing, we are 110% approaching another AI winter because businessmen oversold each other on what language models are capable of and now they’re all getting super pessimistic about AI. So unless it’s something you’re passionate about, maybe look elsewhere…
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        I know this is a community that has a strong backbone in the Software and Technology space. I am a returning student in my mid-30’s that is returning to college as a way to pursue a career change. I am looking to crowdsource opinions from experienced tech professionals so I can make good quality, informed decisions about how I move forward with my educational and career goals.\n
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        With that being said my question is how would you proceed between the programs I have linked below? I am starting at a STEM focused community college (***Bellevue College***) in the Pacific Northwest. My long term goal is to either transfer to another four year institution (like ***UW Bothell***) grade permitting, or perhaps finish a four year degree from this institution. This is where your advice comes in, and where I believe I need better outside perspective to make a good decision.\n
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        **Option #1 (Software Development - Application Development Track)**This is where I have been leaning because it seems to afford me the largest number of future options with the direction I take my education. Most importantly I think it sets me up in the best position to make the potential transition to the University of Washington Bothell’s Computer Science & Software Engineering program. The Application Development track has a stronger focus on C# & .NET framework programming languages, which seems to provide a better foundation for more potential job opportunities at the moment.\n
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        **Option #2 (Software Development - Artificial Intelligence Track)**Artificial Intelligence is obviously the buzzword of the moment. However, I am wondering if I am robbing myself of options by over-specializing this early in the process, and I also have concerns about focusing my learning process so heavily on Python when that seems to be something that is not used as a standard backbone language for more enterprise level businesses. I also don’t have any interest in the robotics area of this degree, as I don’t see that as being something I would look to pursue in my career. I do want to be conscientious about learning whatever is going to provide me the most future utility, therefore, I am wondering if this is the way to go for that reason.\n
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        [Link to Program Information](https://catalog.bellevuecollege.edu/preview_program.php?catoid=12&poid=2932&returnto=594)\n
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        **Hit me with anything you’ve got Lemmy, it is all appreciated!**\n
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        **Edit:** I’m watching the NFC Championship Game, but I will respond to all of you as soon as it is over. Really appreciate all the responses so far!
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      I got a BS in CS with an AI specialization about 10 years ago and the AI part resulted in absolutely nothing professionally, even though I applied to just as many AI jobs as non-AI. I don’t regret it though, because the classes interested me deeply on an academic level and going to college wasn’t solely about career prep for me.\n
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        Greetings fellow Lemmings,\n
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        I know this is a community that has a strong backbone in the Software and Technology space. I am a returning student in my mid-30’s that is returning to college as a way to pursue a career change. I am looking to crowdsource opinions from experienced tech professionals so I can make good quality, informed decisions about how I move forward with my educational and career goals.\n
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        With that being said my question is how would you proceed between the programs I have linked below? I am starting at a STEM focused community college (***Bellevue College***) in the Pacific Northwest. My long term goal is to either transfer to another four year institution (like ***UW Bothell***) grade permitting, or perhaps finish a four year degree from this institution. This is where your advice comes in, and where I believe I need better outside perspective to make a good decision.\n
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        **Option #1 (Software Development - Application Development Track)**This is where I have been leaning because it seems to afford me the largest number of future options with the direction I take my education. Most importantly I think it sets me up in the best position to make the potential transition to the University of Washington Bothell’s Computer Science & Software Engineering program. The Application Development track has a stronger focus on C# & .NET framework programming languages, which seems to provide a better foundation for more potential job opportunities at the moment.\n
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        **Option #2 (Software Development - Artificial Intelligence Track)**Artificial Intelligence is obviously the buzzword of the moment. However, I am wondering if I am robbing myself of options by over-specializing this early in the process, and I also have concerns about focusing my learning process so heavily on Python when that seems to be something that is not used as a standard backbone language for more enterprise level businesses. I also don’t have any interest in the robotics area of this degree, as I don’t see that as being something I would look to pursue in my career. I do want to be conscientious about learning whatever is going to provide me the most future utility, therefore, I am wondering if this is the way to go for that reason.\n
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        [Link to Program Information](https://catalog.bellevuecollege.edu/preview_program.php?catoid=12&poid=2932&returnto=594)\n
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        Ultimately, I am open to any and all advice, recommendations, and wisdom that my fellow Lemmings have to provide. My previous background was in a completely unrelated field, but I have always had a passion for technology and I am a quick learner with a lean lifestyle and no external distractions. Completing this process and securing employment will be my focus 100% for the next 3-4 years. With that in mind, tell me what you think.\n
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        **Hit me with anything you’ve got Lemmy, it is all appreciated!**\n
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        **Edit:** I’m watching the NFC Championship Game, but I will respond to all of you as soon as it is over. Really appreciate all the responses so far!
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        Greetings fellow Lemmings,\n
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        I know this is a community that has a strong backbone in the Software and Technology space. I am a returning student in my mid-30’s that is returning to college as a way to pursue a career change. I am looking to crowdsource opinions from experienced tech professionals so I can make good quality, informed decisions about how I move forward with my educational and career goals.\n
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        With that being said my question is how would you proceed between the programs I have linked below? I am starting at a STEM focused community college (***Bellevue College***) in the Pacific Northwest. My long term goal is to either transfer to another four year institution (like ***UW Bothell***) grade permitting, or perhaps finish a four year degree from this institution. This is where your advice comes in, and where I believe I need better outside perspective to make a good decision.\n
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        **Option #1 (Software Development - Application Development Track)**This is where I have been leaning because it seems to afford me the largest number of future options with the direction I take my education. Most importantly I think it sets me up in the best position to make the potential transition to the University of Washington Bothell’s Computer Science & Software Engineering program. The Application Development track has a stronger focus on C# & .NET framework programming languages, which seems to provide a better foundation for more potential job opportunities at the moment.\n
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        **Option #2 (Software Development - Artificial Intelligence Track)**Artificial Intelligence is obviously the buzzword of the moment. However, I am wondering if I am robbing myself of options by over-specializing this early in the process, and I also have concerns about focusing my learning process so heavily on Python when that seems to be something that is not used as a standard backbone language for more enterprise level businesses. I also don’t have any interest in the robotics area of this degree, as I don’t see that as being something I would look to pursue in my career. I do want to be conscientious about learning whatever is going to provide me the most future utility, therefore, I am wondering if this is the way to go for that reason.\n
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        [Link to Program Information](https://catalog.bellevuecollege.edu/preview_program.php?catoid=12&poid=2932&returnto=594)\n
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        Ultimately, I am open to any and all advice, recommendations, and wisdom that my fellow Lemmings have to provide. My previous background was in a completely unrelated field, but I have always had a passion for technology and I am a quick learner with a lean lifestyle and no external distractions. Completing this process and securing employment will be my focus 100% for the next 3-4 years. With that in mind, tell me what you think.\n
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        - Am I crazy for doing this later in life?\n
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        **Hit me with anything you’ve got Lemmy, it is all appreciated!**\n
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        **Edit:** I’m watching the NFC Championship Game, but I will respond to all of you as soon as it is over. Really appreciate all the responses so far!
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        Greetings fellow Lemmings,\n
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        I know this is a community that has a strong backbone in the Software and Technology space. I am a returning student in my mid-30’s that is returning to college as a way to pursue a career change. I am looking to crowdsource opinions from experienced tech professionals so I can make good quality, informed decisions about how I move forward with my educational and career goals.\n
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        With that being said my question is how would you proceed between the programs I have linked below? I am starting at a STEM focused community college (***Bellevue College***) in the Pacific Northwest. My long term goal is to either transfer to another four year institution (like ***UW Bothell***) grade permitting, or perhaps finish a four year degree from this institution. This is where your advice comes in, and where I believe I need better outside perspective to make a good decision.\n
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        **Option #1 (Software Development - Application Development Track)**This is where I have been leaning because it seems to afford me the largest number of future options with the direction I take my education. Most importantly I think it sets me up in the best position to make the potential transition to the University of Washington Bothell’s Computer Science & Software Engineering program. The Application Development track has a stronger focus on C# & .NET framework programming languages, which seems to provide a better foundation for more potential job opportunities at the moment.\n
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        **Option #2 (Software Development - Artificial Intelligence Track)**Artificial Intelligence is obviously the buzzword of the moment. However, I am wondering if I am robbing myself of options by over-specializing this early in the process, and I also have concerns about focusing my learning process so heavily on Python when that seems to be something that is not used as a standard backbone language for more enterprise level businesses. I also don’t have any interest in the robotics area of this degree, as I don’t see that as being something I would look to pursue in my career. I do want to be conscientious about learning whatever is going to provide me the most future utility, therefore, I am wondering if this is the way to go for that reason.\n
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        [Link to Program Information](https://catalog.bellevuecollege.edu/preview_program.php?catoid=12&poid=2932&returnto=594)\n
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        Ultimately, I am open to any and all advice, recommendations, and wisdom that my fellow Lemmings have to provide. My previous background was in a completely unrelated field, but I have always had a passion for technology and I am a quick learner with a lean lifestyle and no external distractions. Completing this process and securing employment will be my focus 100% for the next 3-4 years. With that in mind, tell me what you think.\n
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        **Hit me with anything you’ve got Lemmy, it is all appreciated!**\n
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        **Edit:** I’m watching the NFC Championship Game, but I will respond to all of you as soon as it is over. Really appreciate all the responses so far!
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        Greetings fellow Lemmings,\n
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        I know this is a community that has a strong backbone in the Software and Technology space. I am a returning student in my mid-30’s that is returning to college as a way to pursue a career change. I am looking to crowdsource opinions from experienced tech professionals so I can make good quality, informed decisions about how I move forward with my educational and career goals.\n
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        With that being said my question is how would you proceed between the programs I have linked below? I am starting at a STEM focused community college (***Bellevue College***) in the Pacific Northwest. My long term goal is to either transfer to another four year institution (like ***UW Bothell***) grade permitting, or perhaps finish a four year degree from this institution. This is where your advice comes in, and where I believe I need better outside perspective to make a good decision.\n
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        **Option #1 (Software Development - Application Development Track)**This is where I have been leaning because it seems to afford me the largest number of future options with the direction I take my education. Most importantly I think it sets me up in the best position to make the potential transition to the University of Washington Bothell’s Computer Science & Software Engineering program. The Application Development track has a stronger focus on C# & .NET framework programming languages, which seems to provide a better foundation for more potential job opportunities at the moment.\n
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        **Option #2 (Software Development - Artificial Intelligence Track)**Artificial Intelligence is obviously the buzzword of the moment. However, I am wondering if I am robbing myself of options by over-specializing this early in the process, and I also have concerns about focusing my learning process so heavily on Python when that seems to be something that is not used as a standard backbone language for more enterprise level businesses. I also don’t have any interest in the robotics area of this degree, as I don’t see that as being something I would look to pursue in my career. I do want to be conscientious about learning whatever is going to provide me the most future utility, therefore, I am wondering if this is the way to go for that reason.\n
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        [Link to Program Information](https://catalog.bellevuecollege.edu/preview_program.php?catoid=12&poid=2932&returnto=594)\n
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        Ultimately, I am open to any and all advice, recommendations, and wisdom that my fellow Lemmings have to provide. My previous background was in a completely unrelated field, but I have always had a passion for technology and I am a quick learner with a lean lifestyle and no external distractions. Completing this process and securing employment will be my focus 100% for the next 3-4 years. With that in mind, tell me what you think.\n
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        - What pitfalls should I avoid?\n
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        - Am I crazy for doing this later in life?\n
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        **Hit me with anything you’ve got Lemmy, it is all appreciated!**\n
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        **Edit:** I’m watching the NFC Championship Game, but I will respond to all of you as soon as it is over. Really appreciate all the responses so far!
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      I got a BS in CS with an AI specialization about 10 years ago and the AI part resulted in absolutely nothing professionally, even though I applied to just as many AI jobs as non-AI. I don’t regret it though, because the classes interested me deeply on an academic level and going to college wasn’t solely about career prep for me.\n
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        Greetings fellow Lemmings,\n
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        I know this is a community that has a strong backbone in the Software and Technology space. I am a returning student in my mid-30’s that is returning to college as a way to pursue a career change. I am looking to crowdsource opinions from experienced tech professionals so I can make good quality, informed decisions about how I move forward with my educational and career goals.\n
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        With that being said my question is how would you proceed between the programs I have linked below? I am starting at a STEM focused community college (***Bellevue College***) in the Pacific Northwest. My long term goal is to either transfer to another four year institution (like ***UW Bothell***) grade permitting, or perhaps finish a four year degree from this institution. This is where your advice comes in, and where I believe I need better outside perspective to make a good decision.\n
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        **Option #1 (Software Development - Application Development Track)**This is where I have been leaning because it seems to afford me the largest number of future options with the direction I take my education. Most importantly I think it sets me up in the best position to make the potential transition to the University of Washington Bothell’s Computer Science & Software Engineering program. The Application Development track has a stronger focus on C# & .NET framework programming languages, which seems to provide a better foundation for more potential job opportunities at the moment.\n
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        **Option #2 (Software Development - Artificial Intelligence Track)**Artificial Intelligence is obviously the buzzword of the moment. However, I am wondering if I am robbing myself of options by over-specializing this early in the process, and I also have concerns about focusing my learning process so heavily on Python when that seems to be something that is not used as a standard backbone language for more enterprise level businesses. I also don’t have any interest in the robotics area of this degree, as I don’t see that as being something I would look to pursue in my career. I do want to be conscientious about learning whatever is going to provide me the most future utility, therefore, I am wondering if this is the way to go for that reason.\n
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        [Link to Program Information](https://catalog.bellevuecollege.edu/preview_program.php?catoid=12&poid=2932&returnto=594)\n
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        Ultimately, I am open to any and all advice, recommendations, and wisdom that my fellow Lemmings have to provide. My previous background was in a completely unrelated field, but I have always had a passion for technology and I am a quick learner with a lean lifestyle and no external distractions. Completing this process and securing employment will be my focus 100% for the next 3-4 years. With that in mind, tell me what you think.\n
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        - Am I crazy for doing this later in life?\n
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        **Hit me with anything you’ve got Lemmy, it is all appreciated!**\n
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        **Edit:** I’m watching the NFC Championship Game, but I will respond to all of you as soon as it is over. Really appreciate all the responses so far!
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      I got a BS in CS with an AI specialization about 10 years ago and the AI part resulted in absolutely nothing professionally, even though I applied to just as many AI jobs as non-AI. I don’t regret it though, because the classes interested me deeply on an academic level and going to college wasn’t solely about career prep for me.\n
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        Greetings fellow Lemmings,\n
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        I know this is a community that has a strong backbone in the Software and Technology space. I am a returning student in my mid-30’s that is returning to college as a way to pursue a career change. I am looking to crowdsource opinions from experienced tech professionals so I can make good quality, informed decisions about how I move forward with my educational and career goals.\n
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        With that being said my question is how would you proceed between the programs I have linked below? I am starting at a STEM focused community college (***Bellevue College***) in the Pacific Northwest. My long term goal is to either transfer to another four year institution (like ***UW Bothell***) grade permitting, or perhaps finish a four year degree from this institution. This is where your advice comes in, and where I believe I need better outside perspective to make a good decision.\n
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        **Option #1 (Software Development - Application Development Track)**This is where I have been leaning because it seems to afford me the largest number of future options with the direction I take my education. Most importantly I think it sets me up in the best position to make the potential transition to the University of Washington Bothell’s Computer Science & Software Engineering program. The Application Development track has a stronger focus on C# & .NET framework programming languages, which seems to provide a better foundation for more potential job opportunities at the moment.\n
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        **Option #2 (Software Development - Artificial Intelligence Track)**Artificial Intelligence is obviously the buzzword of the moment. However, I am wondering if I am robbing myself of options by over-specializing this early in the process, and I also have concerns about focusing my learning process so heavily on Python when that seems to be something that is not used as a standard backbone language for more enterprise level businesses. I also don’t have any interest in the robotics area of this degree, as I don’t see that as being something I would look to pursue in my career. I do want to be conscientious about learning whatever is going to provide me the most future utility, therefore, I am wondering if this is the way to go for that reason.\n
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        [Link to Program Information](https://catalog.bellevuecollege.edu/preview_program.php?catoid=12&poid=2932&returnto=594)\n
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        Ultimately, I am open to any and all advice, recommendations, and wisdom that my fellow Lemmings have to provide. My previous background was in a completely unrelated field, but I have always had a passion for technology and I am a quick learner with a lean lifestyle and no external distractions. Completing this process and securing employment will be my focus 100% for the next 3-4 years. With that in mind, tell me what you think.\n
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        - Am I crazy for doing this later in life?\n
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        **Hit me with anything you’ve got Lemmy, it is all appreciated!**\n
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        **Edit:** I’m watching the NFC Championship Game, but I will respond to all of you as soon as it is over. Really appreciate all the responses so far!
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      I got a BS in CS with an AI specialization about 10 years ago and the AI part resulted in absolutely nothing professionally, even though I applied to just as many AI jobs as non-AI. I don’t regret it though, because the classes interested me deeply on an academic level and going to college wasn’t solely about career prep for me.\n
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      > Python … seems to be something that is not used as a standard backbone language for more enterprise level businesses\n
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      This is just flat out incorrect. Sure, very few enterprise programs are built *entirely* with Python, but many have components written in Python (especially in web), and Python is also a popular choice for build scripts and other internal software development tools. Python makes the process of going from idea to working program faster than any other language, which the bean counters like, so trust me, you will see Python everywhere in the industry.\n
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        Greetings fellow Lemmings,\n
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        I know this is a community that has a strong backbone in the Software and Technology space. I am a returning student in my mid-30’s that is returning to college as a way to pursue a career change. I am looking to crowdsource opinions from experienced tech professionals so I can make good quality, informed decisions about how I move forward with my educational and career goals.\n
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        With that being said my question is how would you proceed between the programs I have linked below? I am starting at a STEM focused community college (***Bellevue College***) in the Pacific Northwest. My long term goal is to either transfer to another four year institution (like ***UW Bothell***) grade permitting, or perhaps finish a four year degree from this institution. This is where your advice comes in, and where I believe I need better outside perspective to make a good decision.\n
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        **Option #1 (Software Development - Application Development Track)**This is where I have been leaning because it seems to afford me the largest number of future options with the direction I take my education. Most importantly I think it sets me up in the best position to make the potential transition to the University of Washington Bothell’s Computer Science & Software Engineering program. The Application Development track has a stronger focus on C# & .NET framework programming languages, which seems to provide a better foundation for more potential job opportunities at the moment.\n
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        **Option #2 (Software Development - Artificial Intelligence Track)**Artificial Intelligence is obviously the buzzword of the moment. However, I am wondering if I am robbing myself of options by over-specializing this early in the process, and I also have concerns about focusing my learning process so heavily on Python when that seems to be something that is not used as a standard backbone language for more enterprise level businesses. I also don’t have any interest in the robotics area of this degree, as I don’t see that as being something I would look to pursue in my career. I do want to be conscientious about learning whatever is going to provide me the most future utility, therefore, I am wondering if this is the way to go for that reason.\n
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        [Link to Program Information](https://catalog.bellevuecollege.edu/preview_program.php?catoid=12&poid=2932&returnto=594)\n
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        - Am I crazy for doing this later in life?\n
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        **Hit me with anything you’ve got Lemmy, it is all appreciated!**\n
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        **Edit:** I’m watching the NFC Championship Game, but I will respond to all of you as soon as it is over. Really appreciate all the responses so far!
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        I know this is a community that has a strong backbone in the Software and Technology space. I am a returning student in my mid-30’s that is returning to college as a way to pursue a career change. I am looking to crowdsource opinions from experienced tech professionals so I can make good quality, informed decisions about how I move forward with my educational and career goals.\n
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        With that being said my question is how would you proceed between the programs I have linked below? I am starting at a STEM focused community college (***Bellevue College***) in the Pacific Northwest. My long term goal is to either transfer to another four year institution (like ***UW Bothell***) grade permitting, or perhaps finish a four year degree from this institution. This is where your advice comes in, and where I believe I need better outside perspective to make a good decision.\n
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        **Option #1 (Software Development - Application Development Track)**This is where I have been leaning because it seems to afford me the largest number of future options with the direction I take my education. Most importantly I think it sets me up in the best position to make the potential transition to the University of Washington Bothell’s Computer Science & Software Engineering program. The Application Development track has a stronger focus on C# & .NET framework programming languages, which seems to provide a better foundation for more potential job opportunities at the moment.\n
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        **Option #2 (Software Development - Artificial Intelligence Track)**Artificial Intelligence is obviously the buzzword of the moment. However, I am wondering if I am robbing myself of options by over-specializing this early in the process, and I also have concerns about focusing my learning process so heavily on Python when that seems to be something that is not used as a standard backbone language for more enterprise level businesses. I also don’t have any interest in the robotics area of this degree, as I don’t see that as being something I would look to pursue in my career. I do want to be conscientious about learning whatever is going to provide me the most future utility, therefore, I am wondering if this is the way to go for that reason.\n
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        **Edit:** I’m watching the NFC Championship Game, but I will respond to all of you as soon as it is over. Really appreciate all the responses so far!
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        I know this is a community that has a strong backbone in the Software and Technology space. I am a returning student in my mid-30’s that is returning to college as a way to pursue a career change. I am looking to crowdsource opinions from experienced tech professionals so I can make good quality, informed decisions about how I move forward with my educational and career goals.\n
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        With that being said my question is how would you proceed between the programs I have linked below? I am starting at a STEM focused community college (***Bellevue College***) in the Pacific Northwest. My long term goal is to either transfer to another four year institution (like ***UW Bothell***) grade permitting, or perhaps finish a four year degree from this institution. This is where your advice comes in, and where I believe I need better outside perspective to make a good decision.\n
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        **Option #1 (Software Development - Application Development Track)**This is where I have been leaning because it seems to afford me the largest number of future options with the direction I take my education. Most importantly I think it sets me up in the best position to make the potential transition to the University of Washington Bothell’s Computer Science & Software Engineering program. The Application Development track has a stronger focus on C# & .NET framework programming languages, which seems to provide a better foundation for more potential job opportunities at the moment.\n
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        **Option #2 (Software Development - Artificial Intelligence Track)**Artificial Intelligence is obviously the buzzword of the moment. However, I am wondering if I am robbing myself of options by over-specializing this early in the process, and I also have concerns about focusing my learning process so heavily on Python when that seems to be something that is not used as a standard backbone language for more enterprise level businesses. I also don’t have any interest in the robotics area of this degree, as I don’t see that as being something I would look to pursue in my career. I do want to be conscientious about learning whatever is going to provide me the most future utility, therefore, I am wondering if this is the way to go for that reason.\n
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        [Link to Program Information](https://catalog.bellevuecollege.edu/preview_program.php?catoid=12&poid=2932&returnto=594)\n
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        Ultimately, I am open to any and all advice, recommendations, and wisdom that my fellow Lemmings have to provide. My previous background was in a completely unrelated field, but I have always had a passion for technology and I am a quick learner with a lean lifestyle and no external distractions. Completing this process and securing employment will be my focus 100% for the next 3-4 years. With that in mind, tell me what you think.\n
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        **Hit me with anything you’ve got Lemmy, it is all appreciated!**\n
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        **Edit:** I’m watching the NFC Championship Game, but I will respond to all of you as soon as it is over. Really appreciate all the responses so far!
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        Greetings fellow Lemmings,\n
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        I know this is a community that has a strong backbone in the Software and Technology space. I am a returning student in my mid-30’s that is returning to college as a way to pursue a career change. I am looking to crowdsource opinions from experienced tech professionals so I can make good quality, informed decisions about how I move forward with my educational and career goals.\n
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        With that being said my question is how would you proceed between the programs I have linked below? I am starting at a STEM focused community college (***Bellevue College***) in the Pacific Northwest. My long term goal is to either transfer to another four year institution (like ***UW Bothell***) grade permitting, or perhaps finish a four year degree from this institution. This is where your advice comes in, and where I believe I need better outside perspective to make a good decision.\n
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        **Option #1 (Software Development - Application Development Track)**This is where I have been leaning because it seems to afford me the largest number of future options with the direction I take my education. Most importantly I think it sets me up in the best position to make the potential transition to the University of Washington Bothell’s Computer Science & Software Engineering program. The Application Development track has a stronger focus on C# & .NET framework programming languages, which seems to provide a better foundation for more potential job opportunities at the moment.\n
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        **Option #2 (Software Development - Artificial Intelligence Track)**Artificial Intelligence is obviously the buzzword of the moment. However, I am wondering if I am robbing myself of options by over-specializing this early in the process, and I also have concerns about focusing my learning process so heavily on Python when that seems to be something that is not used as a standard backbone language for more enterprise level businesses. I also don’t have any interest in the robotics area of this degree, as I don’t see that as being something I would look to pursue in my career. I do want to be conscientious about learning whatever is going to provide me the most future utility, therefore, I am wondering if this is the way to go for that reason.\n
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        [Link to Program Information](https://catalog.bellevuecollege.edu/preview_program.php?catoid=12&poid=2932&returnto=594)\n
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        Ultimately, I am open to any and all advice, recommendations, and wisdom that my fellow Lemmings have to provide. My previous background was in a completely unrelated field, but I have always had a passion for technology and I am a quick learner with a lean lifestyle and no external distractions. Completing this process and securing employment will be my focus 100% for the next 3-4 years. With that in mind, tell me what you think.\n
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        **Hit me with anything you’ve got Lemmy, it is all appreciated!**\n
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        **Edit:** I’m watching the NFC Championship Game, but I will respond to all of you as soon as it is over. Really appreciate all the responses so far!
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        Greetings fellow Lemmings,\n
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        I know this is a community that has a strong backbone in the Software and Technology space. I am a returning student in my mid-30’s that is returning to college as a way to pursue a career change. I am looking to crowdsource opinions from experienced tech professionals so I can make good quality, informed decisions about how I move forward with my educational and career goals.\n
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        With that being said my question is how would you proceed between the programs I have linked below? I am starting at a STEM focused community college (***Bellevue College***) in the Pacific Northwest. My long term goal is to either transfer to another four year institution (like ***UW Bothell***) grade permitting, or perhaps finish a four year degree from this institution. This is where your advice comes in, and where I believe I need better outside perspective to make a good decision.\n
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        **Option #1 (Software Development - Application Development Track)**This is where I have been leaning because it seems to afford me the largest number of future options with the direction I take my education. Most importantly I think it sets me up in the best position to make the potential transition to the University of Washington Bothell’s Computer Science & Software Engineering program. The Application Development track has a stronger focus on C# & .NET framework programming languages, which seems to provide a better foundation for more potential job opportunities at the moment.\n
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        **Option #2 (Software Development - Artificial Intelligence Track)**Artificial Intelligence is obviously the buzzword of the moment. However, I am wondering if I am robbing myself of options by over-specializing this early in the process, and I also have concerns about focusing my learning process so heavily on Python when that seems to be something that is not used as a standard backbone language for more enterprise level businesses. I also don’t have any interest in the robotics area of this degree, as I don’t see that as being something I would look to pursue in my career. I do want to be conscientious about learning whatever is going to provide me the most future utility, therefore, I am wondering if this is the way to go for that reason.\n
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        [Link to Program Information](https://catalog.bellevuecollege.edu/preview_program.php?catoid=12&poid=2932&returnto=594)\n
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        Ultimately, I am open to any and all advice, recommendations, and wisdom that my fellow Lemmings have to provide. My previous background was in a completely unrelated field, but I have always had a passion for technology and I am a quick learner with a lean lifestyle and no external distractions. Completing this process and securing employment will be my focus 100% for the next 3-4 years. With that in mind, tell me what you think.\n
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        **Hit me with anything you’ve got Lemmy, it is all appreciated!**\n
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        **Edit:** I’m watching the NFC Championship Game, but I will respond to all of you as soon as it is over. Really appreciate all the responses so far!
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        Greetings fellow Lemmings,\n
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        I know this is a community that has a strong backbone in the Software and Technology space. I am a returning student in my mid-30’s that is returning to college as a way to pursue a career change. I am looking to crowdsource opinions from experienced tech professionals so I can make good quality, informed decisions about how I move forward with my educational and career goals.\n
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        With that being said my question is how would you proceed between the programs I have linked below? I am starting at a STEM focused community college (***Bellevue College***) in the Pacific Northwest. My long term goal is to either transfer to another four year institution (like ***UW Bothell***) grade permitting, or perhaps finish a four year degree from this institution. This is where your advice comes in, and where I believe I need better outside perspective to make a good decision.\n
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        **Option #1 (Software Development - Application Development Track)**This is where I have been leaning because it seems to afford me the largest number of future options with the direction I take my education. Most importantly I think it sets me up in the best position to make the potential transition to the University of Washington Bothell’s Computer Science & Software Engineering program. The Application Development track has a stronger focus on C# & .NET framework programming languages, which seems to provide a better foundation for more potential job opportunities at the moment.\n
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        **Option #2 (Software Development - Artificial Intelligence Track)**Artificial Intelligence is obviously the buzzword of the moment. However, I am wondering if I am robbing myself of options by over-specializing this early in the process, and I also have concerns about focusing my learning process so heavily on Python when that seems to be something that is not used as a standard backbone language for more enterprise level businesses. I also don’t have any interest in the robotics area of this degree, as I don’t see that as being something I would look to pursue in my career. I do want to be conscientious about learning whatever is going to provide me the most future utility, therefore, I am wondering if this is the way to go for that reason.\n
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        [Link to Program Information](https://catalog.bellevuecollege.edu/preview_program.php?catoid=12&poid=2932&returnto=594)\n
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        Ultimately, I am open to any and all advice, recommendations, and wisdom that my fellow Lemmings have to provide. My previous background was in a completely unrelated field, but I have always had a passion for technology and I am a quick learner with a lean lifestyle and no external distractions. Completing this process and securing employment will be my focus 100% for the next 3-4 years. With that in mind, tell me what you think.\n
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        - What pitfalls should I avoid?\n
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        - Am I crazy for doing this later in life?\n
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        **Hit me with anything you’ve got Lemmy, it is all appreciated!**\n
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        **Edit:** I’m watching the NFC Championship Game, but I will respond to all of you as soon as it is over. Really appreciate all the responses so far!
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        Greetings fellow Lemmings,\n
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        I know this is a community that has a strong backbone in the Software and Technology space. I am a returning student in my mid-30’s that is returning to college as a way to pursue a career change. I am looking to crowdsource opinions from experienced tech professionals so I can make good quality, informed decisions about how I move forward with my educational and career goals.\n
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        With that being said my question is how would you proceed between the programs I have linked below? I am starting at a STEM focused community college (***Bellevue College***) in the Pacific Northwest. My long term goal is to either transfer to another four year institution (like ***UW Bothell***) grade permitting, or perhaps finish a four year degree from this institution. This is where your advice comes in, and where I believe I need better outside perspective to make a good decision.\n
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        **Option #1 (Software Development - Application Development Track)**This is where I have been leaning because it seems to afford me the largest number of future options with the direction I take my education. Most importantly I think it sets me up in the best position to make the potential transition to the University of Washington Bothell’s Computer Science & Software Engineering program. The Application Development track has a stronger focus on C# & .NET framework programming languages, which seems to provide a better foundation for more potential job opportunities at the moment.\n
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        **Option #2 (Software Development - Artificial Intelligence Track)**Artificial Intelligence is obviously the buzzword of the moment. However, I am wondering if I am robbing myself of options by over-specializing this early in the process, and I also have concerns about focusing my learning process so heavily on Python when that seems to be something that is not used as a standard backbone language for more enterprise level businesses. I also don’t have any interest in the robotics area of this degree, as I don’t see that as being something I would look to pursue in my career. I do want to be conscientious about learning whatever is going to provide me the most future utility, therefore, I am wondering if this is the way to go for that reason.\n
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        [Link to Program Information](https://catalog.bellevuecollege.edu/preview_program.php?catoid=12&poid=2932&returnto=594)\n
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        Ultimately, I am open to any and all advice, recommendations, and wisdom that my fellow Lemmings have to provide. My previous background was in a completely unrelated field, but I have always had a passion for technology and I am a quick learner with a lean lifestyle and no external distractions. Completing this process and securing employment will be my focus 100% for the next 3-4 years. With that in mind, tell me what you think.\n
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        - Am I crazy for doing this later in life?\n
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        **Hit me with anything you’ve got Lemmy, it is all appreciated!**\n
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        **Edit:** I’m watching the NFC Championship Game, but I will respond to all of you as soon as it is over. Really appreciate all the responses so far!
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        Greetings fellow Lemmings,\n
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        I know this is a community that has a strong backbone in the Software and Technology space. I am a returning student in my mid-30’s that is returning to college as a way to pursue a career change. I am looking to crowdsource opinions from experienced tech professionals so I can make good quality, informed decisions about how I move forward with my educational and career goals.\n
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        With that being said my question is how would you proceed between the programs I have linked below? I am starting at a STEM focused community college (***Bellevue College***) in the Pacific Northwest. My long term goal is to either transfer to another four year institution (like ***UW Bothell***) grade permitting, or perhaps finish a four year degree from this institution. This is where your advice comes in, and where I believe I need better outside perspective to make a good decision.\n
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        **Option #1 (Software Development - Application Development Track)**This is where I have been leaning because it seems to afford me the largest number of future options with the direction I take my education. Most importantly I think it sets me up in the best position to make the potential transition to the University of Washington Bothell’s Computer Science & Software Engineering program. The Application Development track has a stronger focus on C# & .NET framework programming languages, which seems to provide a better foundation for more potential job opportunities at the moment.\n
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        **Option #2 (Software Development - Artificial Intelligence Track)**Artificial Intelligence is obviously the buzzword of the moment. However, I am wondering if I am robbing myself of options by over-specializing this early in the process, and I also have concerns about focusing my learning process so heavily on Python when that seems to be something that is not used as a standard backbone language for more enterprise level businesses. I also don’t have any interest in the robotics area of this degree, as I don’t see that as being something I would look to pursue in my career. I do want to be conscientious about learning whatever is going to provide me the most future utility, therefore, I am wondering if this is the way to go for that reason.\n
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        [Link to Program Information](https://catalog.bellevuecollege.edu/preview_program.php?catoid=12&poid=2932&returnto=594)\n
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        Ultimately, I am open to any and all advice, recommendations, and wisdom that my fellow Lemmings have to provide. My previous background was in a completely unrelated field, but I have always had a passion for technology and I am a quick learner with a lean lifestyle and no external distractions. Completing this process and securing employment will be my focus 100% for the next 3-4 years. With that in mind, tell me what you think.\n
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        **Hit me with anything you’ve got Lemmy, it is all appreciated!**\n
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        **Edit:** I’m watching the NFC Championship Game, but I will respond to all of you as soon as it is over. Really appreciate all the responses so far!
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      I’d lean towards the Software Development track, partly because that’s my background, and partially because it sounds like it would offer a better foundation in development fundamentals. I suspect AI is going to change significantly over the next couple of decades, so I suspect it would be less future proof.\n
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        Greetings fellow Lemmings,\n
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        I know this is a community that has a strong backbone in the Software and Technology space. I am a returning student in my mid-30’s that is returning to college as a way to pursue a career change. I am looking to crowdsource opinions from experienced tech professionals so I can make good quality, informed decisions about how I move forward with my educational and career goals.\n
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        With that being said my question is how would you proceed between the programs I have linked below? I am starting at a STEM focused community college (***Bellevue College***) in the Pacific Northwest. My long term goal is to either transfer to another four year institution (like ***UW Bothell***) grade permitting, or perhaps finish a four year degree from this institution. This is where your advice comes in, and where I believe I need better outside perspective to make a good decision.\n
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        **Option #1 (Software Development - Application Development Track)**This is where I have been leaning because it seems to afford me the largest number of future options with the direction I take my education. Most importantly I think it sets me up in the best position to make the potential transition to the University of Washington Bothell’s Computer Science & Software Engineering program. The Application Development track has a stronger focus on C# & .NET framework programming languages, which seems to provide a better foundation for more potential job opportunities at the moment.\n
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        **Option #2 (Software Development - Artificial Intelligence Track)**Artificial Intelligence is obviously the buzzword of the moment. However, I am wondering if I am robbing myself of options by over-specializing this early in the process, and I also have concerns about focusing my learning process so heavily on Python when that seems to be something that is not used as a standard backbone language for more enterprise level businesses. I also don’t have any interest in the robotics area of this degree, as I don’t see that as being something I would look to pursue in my career. I do want to be conscientious about learning whatever is going to provide me the most future utility, therefore, I am wondering if this is the way to go for that reason.\n
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        [Link to Program Information](https://catalog.bellevuecollege.edu/preview_program.php?catoid=12&poid=2932&returnto=594)\n
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        Ultimately, I am open to any and all advice, recommendations, and wisdom that my fellow Lemmings have to provide. My previous background was in a completely unrelated field, but I have always had a passion for technology and I am a quick learner with a lean lifestyle and no external distractions. Completing this process and securing employment will be my focus 100% for the next 3-4 years. With that in mind, tell me what you think.\n
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        **Hit me with anything you’ve got Lemmy, it is all appreciated!**\n
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        **Edit:** I’m watching the NFC Championship Game, but I will respond to all of you as soon as it is over. Really appreciate all the responses so far!
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      If you go to college without a clear mission, you’re going to be twiddling your thumbs in a place that costs more than continuous international travel. Like, *go travel internationally* if you want a mind-expanding experience of self discovery. That will help you pick a major.\n
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      Traveling the world, staying in hostels, learning bits of languages, meeting other travelers and locals, getting a little month to month apartment and waiting tables in a foreign city, partying with the locals, getting involved in whatever they’re doing, this is cheaper than college, and far more valuable, if you’re at a place where you don’t know which degree you want.\n
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      I know it takes a lot of courage to buck the trend and do what all the (foolish) grey-haired people in your life are doing.\n
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      College stopped being casual, and started being a very serious thing, and in that way it changed fundamentally from a place of exploration into a place of industry. It is not a place to fuck around. I mean, it is, but not wisely. There are far cheaper, far better places to explore yourself and the world.
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        Greetings fellow Lemmings,\n
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        I know this is a community that has a strong backbone in the Software and Technology space. I am a returning student in my mid-30’s that is returning to college as a way to pursue a career change. I am looking to crowdsource opinions from experienced tech professionals so I can make good quality, informed decisions about how I move forward with my educational and career goals.\n
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        With that being said my question is how would you proceed between the programs I have linked below? I am starting at a STEM focused community college (***Bellevue College***) in the Pacific Northwest. My long term goal is to either transfer to another four year institution (like ***UW Bothell***) grade permitting, or perhaps finish a four year degree from this institution. This is where your advice comes in, and where I believe I need better outside perspective to make a good decision.\n
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        **Option #1 (Software Development - Application Development Track)**This is where I have been leaning because it seems to afford me the largest number of future options with the direction I take my education. Most importantly I think it sets me up in the best position to make the potential transition to the University of Washington Bothell’s Computer Science & Software Engineering program. The Application Development track has a stronger focus on C# & .NET framework programming languages, which seems to provide a better foundation for more potential job opportunities at the moment.\n
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        **Option #2 (Software Development - Artificial Intelligence Track)**Artificial Intelligence is obviously the buzzword of the moment. However, I am wondering if I am robbing myself of options by over-specializing this early in the process, and I also have concerns about focusing my learning process so heavily on Python when that seems to be something that is not used as a standard backbone language for more enterprise level businesses. I also don’t have any interest in the robotics area of this degree, as I don’t see that as being something I would look to pursue in my career. I do want to be conscientious about learning whatever is going to provide me the most future utility, therefore, I am wondering if this is the way to go for that reason.\n
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        [Link to Program Information](https://catalog.bellevuecollege.edu/preview_program.php?catoid=12&poid=2932&returnto=594)\n
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        Ultimately, I am open to any and all advice, recommendations, and wisdom that my fellow Lemmings have to provide. My previous background was in a completely unrelated field, but I have always had a passion for technology and I am a quick learner with a lean lifestyle and no external distractions. Completing this process and securing employment will be my focus 100% for the next 3-4 years. With that in mind, tell me what you think.\n
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        - Where should I go with my education?\n
        - What pitfalls should I avoid?\n
        - When should I specialize?\n
        - Am I crazy for doing this later in life?\n
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        **Hit me with anything you’ve got Lemmy, it is all appreciated!**\n
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        **Edit:** I’m watching the NFC Championship Game, but I will respond to all of you as soon as it is over. Really appreciate all the responses so far!
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      If you need to crowdsource this decision *do not go to college immediately*.\n
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      College is expensive as fuck, and it is wasted on someone who doesn’t have a burning desire to be there for a specific course of study.\n
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      Instead, go live the life of a person without a degree. Just be a human for a while, and learn how to the world works. Then go to college.\n
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      If you go to college without a clear mission, you’re going to be twiddling your thumbs in a place that costs more than continuous international travel. Like, *go travel internationally* if you want a mind-expanding experience of self discovery. That will help you pick a major.\n
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      I say this as someone who went to college “as my destiny”. I went to college because it was always assumed I would go. I wasted time, money, energy, and opportunity by doing so.\n
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      College used to be a place to find yourself. Then it started costing five figures per year, and it became a place you go to get what you need to make more money. That’s what it still is, and will continue to be until it becomes inexpensive again.\n
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      Traveling the world, staying in hostels, learning bits of languages, meeting other travelers and locals, getting a little month to month apartment and waiting tables in a foreign city, partying with the locals, getting involved in whatever they’re doing, this is cheaper than college, and far more valuable, if you’re at a place where you don’t know which degree you want.\n
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      I know it takes a lot of courage to buck the trend and do what all the (foolish) grey-haired people in your life are doing.\n
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      But trust me. College is a different thing than it used to be, specifically because it got **super fucking expensive**.\n
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      College stopped being casual, and started being a very serious thing, and in that way it changed fundamentally from a place of exploration into a place of industry. It is not a place to fuck around. I mean, it is, but not wisely. There are far cheaper, far better places to explore yourself and the world.
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        With that being said my question is how would you proceed between the programs I have linked below? I am starting at a STEM focused community college (***Bellevue College***) in the Pacific Northwest. My long term goal is to either transfer to another four year institution (like ***UW Bothell***) grade permitting, or perhaps finish a four year degree from this institution. This is where your advice comes in, and where I believe I need better outside perspective to make a good decision.\n
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        **Option #1 (Software Development - Application Development Track)**This is where I have been leaning because it seems to afford me the largest number of future options with the direction I take my education. Most importantly I think it sets me up in the best position to make the potential transition to the University of Washington Bothell’s Computer Science & Software Engineering program. The Application Development track has a stronger focus on C# & .NET framework programming languages, which seems to provide a better foundation for more potential job opportunities at the moment.\n
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        **Option #2 (Software Development - Artificial Intelligence Track)**Artificial Intelligence is obviously the buzzword of the moment. However, I am wondering if I am robbing myself of options by over-specializing this early in the process, and I also have concerns about focusing my learning process so heavily on Python when that seems to be something that is not used as a standard backbone language for more enterprise level businesses. I also don’t have any interest in the robotics area of this degree, as I don’t see that as being something I would look to pursue in my career. I do want to be conscientious about learning whatever is going to provide me the most future utility, therefore, I am wondering if this is the way to go for that reason.\n
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        [Link to Program Information](https://catalog.bellevuecollege.edu/preview_program.php?catoid=12&poid=2932&returnto=594)\n
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        Ultimately, I am open to any and all advice, recommendations, and wisdom that my fellow Lemmings have to provide. My previous background was in a completely unrelated field, but I have always had a passion for technology and I am a quick learner with a lean lifestyle and no external distractions. Completing this process and securing employment will be my focus 100% for the next 3-4 years. With that in mind, tell me what you think.\n
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        - Where should I go with my education?\n
        - What pitfalls should I avoid?\n
        - When should I specialize?\n
        - Am I crazy for doing this later in life?\n
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        **Hit me with anything you’ve got Lemmy, it is all appreciated!**\n
        \n
        **Edit:** I’m watching the NFC Championship Game, but I will respond to all of you as soon as it is over. Really appreciate all the responses so far!
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      College is expensive as fuck, and it is wasted on someone who doesn’t have a burning desire to be there for a specific course of study.\n
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      Instead, go live the life of a person without a degree. Just be a human for a while, and learn how to the world works. Then go to college.\n
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      If you go to college without a clear mission, you’re going to be twiddling your thumbs in a place that costs more than continuous international travel. Like, *go travel internationally* if you want a mind-expanding experience of self discovery. That will help you pick a major.\n
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      I say this as someone who went to college “as my destiny”. I went to college because it was always assumed I would go. I wasted time, money, energy, and opportunity by doing so.\n
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      College used to be a place to find yourself. Then it started costing five figures per year, and it became a place you go to get what you need to make more money. That’s what it still is, and will continue to be until it becomes inexpensive again.\n
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      Traveling the world, staying in hostels, learning bits of languages, meeting other travelers and locals, getting a little month to month apartment and waiting tables in a foreign city, partying with the locals, getting involved in whatever they’re doing, this is cheaper than college, and far more valuable, if you’re at a place where you don’t know which degree you want.\n
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      I know it takes a lot of courage to buck the trend and do what all the (foolish) grey-haired people in your life are doing.\n
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      College stopped being casual, and started being a very serious thing, and in that way it changed fundamentally from a place of exploration into a place of industry. It is not a place to fuck around. I mean, it is, but not wisely. There are far cheaper, far better places to explore yourself and the world.
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        Greetings fellow Lemmings,\n
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        I know this is a community that has a strong backbone in the Software and Technology space. I am a returning student in my mid-30’s that is returning to college as a way to pursue a career change. I am looking to crowdsource opinions from experienced tech professionals so I can make good quality, informed decisions about how I move forward with my educational and career goals.\n
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        With that being said my question is how would you proceed between the programs I have linked below? I am starting at a STEM focused community college (***Bellevue College***) in the Pacific Northwest. My long term goal is to either transfer to another four year institution (like ***UW Bothell***) grade permitting, or perhaps finish a four year degree from this institution. This is where your advice comes in, and where I believe I need better outside perspective to make a good decision.\n
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        **Option #1 (Software Development - Application Development Track)**This is where I have been leaning because it seems to afford me the largest number of future options with the direction I take my education. Most importantly I think it sets me up in the best position to make the potential transition to the University of Washington Bothell’s Computer Science & Software Engineering program. The Application Development track has a stronger focus on C# & .NET framework programming languages, which seems to provide a better foundation for more potential job opportunities at the moment.\n
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        **Option #2 (Software Development - Artificial Intelligence Track)**Artificial Intelligence is obviously the buzzword of the moment. However, I am wondering if I am robbing myself of options by over-specializing this early in the process, and I also have concerns about focusing my learning process so heavily on Python when that seems to be something that is not used as a standard backbone language for more enterprise level businesses. I also don’t have any interest in the robotics area of this degree, as I don’t see that as being something I would look to pursue in my career. I do want to be conscientious about learning whatever is going to provide me the most future utility, therefore, I am wondering if this is the way to go for that reason.\n
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        [Link to Program Information](https://catalog.bellevuecollege.edu/preview_program.php?catoid=12&poid=2932&returnto=594)\n
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        Ultimately, I am open to any and all advice, recommendations, and wisdom that my fellow Lemmings have to provide. My previous background was in a completely unrelated field, but I have always had a passion for technology and I am a quick learner with a lean lifestyle and no external distractions. Completing this process and securing employment will be my focus 100% for the next 3-4 years. With that in mind, tell me what you think.\n
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        - Where should I go with my education?\n
        - What pitfalls should I avoid?\n
        - When should I specialize?\n
        - Am I crazy for doing this later in life?\n
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        **Hit me with anything you’ve got Lemmy, it is all appreciated!**\n
        \n
        **Edit:** I’m watching the NFC Championship Game, but I will respond to all of you as soon as it is over. Really appreciate all the responses so far!
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      College is expensive as fuck, and it is wasted on someone who doesn’t have a burning desire to be there for a specific course of study.\n
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      Instead, go live the life of a person without a degree. Just be a human for a while, and learn how to the world works. Then go to college.\n
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      If you go to college without a clear mission, you’re going to be twiddling your thumbs in a place that costs more than continuous international travel. Like, *go travel internationally* if you want a mind-expanding experience of self discovery. That will help you pick a major.\n
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      I say this as someone who went to college “as my destiny”. I went to college because it was always assumed I would go. I wasted time, money, energy, and opportunity by doing so.\n
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      College used to be a place to find yourself. Then it started costing five figures per year, and it became a place you go to get what you need to make more money. That’s what it still is, and will continue to be until it becomes inexpensive again.\n
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      Traveling the world, staying in hostels, learning bits of languages, meeting other travelers and locals, getting a little month to month apartment and waiting tables in a foreign city, partying with the locals, getting involved in whatever they’re doing, this is cheaper than college, and far more valuable, if you’re at a place where you don’t know which degree you want.\n
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      I know it takes a lot of courage to buck the trend and do what all the (foolish) grey-haired people in your life are doing.\n
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      But trust me. College is a different thing than it used to be, specifically because it got **super fucking expensive**.\n
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      College stopped being casual, and started being a very serious thing, and in that way it changed fundamentally from a place of exploration into a place of industry. It is not a place to fuck around. I mean, it is, but not wisely. There are far cheaper, far better places to explore yourself and the world.
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        Greetings fellow Lemmings,\n
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        I know this is a community that has a strong backbone in the Software and Technology space. I am a returning student in my mid-30’s that is returning to college as a way to pursue a career change. I am looking to crowdsource opinions from experienced tech professionals so I can make good quality, informed decisions about how I move forward with my educational and career goals.\n
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        With that being said my question is how would you proceed between the programs I have linked below? I am starting at a STEM focused community college (***Bellevue College***) in the Pacific Northwest. My long term goal is to either transfer to another four year institution (like ***UW Bothell***) grade permitting, or perhaps finish a four year degree from this institution. This is where your advice comes in, and where I believe I need better outside perspective to make a good decision.\n
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        **Option #1 (Software Development - Application Development Track)**This is where I have been leaning because it seems to afford me the largest number of future options with the direction I take my education. Most importantly I think it sets me up in the best position to make the potential transition to the University of Washington Bothell’s Computer Science & Software Engineering program. The Application Development track has a stronger focus on C# & .NET framework programming languages, which seems to provide a better foundation for more potential job opportunities at the moment.\n
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        **Option #2 (Software Development - Artificial Intelligence Track)**Artificial Intelligence is obviously the buzzword of the moment. However, I am wondering if I am robbing myself of options by over-specializing this early in the process, and I also have concerns about focusing my learning process so heavily on Python when that seems to be something that is not used as a standard backbone language for more enterprise level businesses. I also don’t have any interest in the robotics area of this degree, as I don’t see that as being something I would look to pursue in my career. I do want to be conscientious about learning whatever is going to provide me the most future utility, therefore, I am wondering if this is the way to go for that reason.\n
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        [Link to Program Information](https://catalog.bellevuecollege.edu/preview_program.php?catoid=12&poid=2932&returnto=594)\n
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        Ultimately, I am open to any and all advice, recommendations, and wisdom that my fellow Lemmings have to provide. My previous background was in a completely unrelated field, but I have always had a passion for technology and I am a quick learner with a lean lifestyle and no external distractions. Completing this process and securing employment will be my focus 100% for the next 3-4 years. With that in mind, tell me what you think.\n
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        - Where should I go with my education?\n
        - What pitfalls should I avoid?\n
        - When should I specialize?\n
        - Am I crazy for doing this later in life?\n
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        **Hit me with anything you’ve got Lemmy, it is all appreciated!**\n
        \n
        **Edit:** I’m watching the NFC Championship Game, but I will respond to all of you as soon as it is over. Really appreciate all the responses so far!
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      College is expensive as fuck, and it is wasted on someone who doesn’t have a burning desire to be there for a specific course of study.\n
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      Instead, go live the life of a person without a degree. Just be a human for a while, and learn how to the world works. Then go to college.\n
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      If you go to college without a clear mission, you’re going to be twiddling your thumbs in a place that costs more than continuous international travel. Like, *go travel internationally* if you want a mind-expanding experience of self discovery. That will help you pick a major.\n
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      I say this as someone who went to college “as my destiny”. I went to college because it was always assumed I would go. I wasted time, money, energy, and opportunity by doing so.\n
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      College used to be a place to find yourself. Then it started costing five figures per year, and it became a place you go to get what you need to make more money. That’s what it still is, and will continue to be until it becomes inexpensive again.\n
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      Traveling the world, staying in hostels, learning bits of languages, meeting other travelers and locals, getting a little month to month apartment and waiting tables in a foreign city, partying with the locals, getting involved in whatever they’re doing, this is cheaper than college, and far more valuable, if you’re at a place where you don’t know which degree you want.\n
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      I know it takes a lot of courage to buck the trend and do what all the (foolish) grey-haired people in your life are doing.\n
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      But trust me. College is a different thing than it used to be, specifically because it got **super fucking expensive**.\n
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      College stopped being casual, and started being a very serious thing, and in that way it changed fundamentally from a place of exploration into a place of industry. It is not a place to fuck around. I mean, it is, but not wisely. There are far cheaper, far better places to explore yourself and the world.
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        Greetings fellow Lemmings,\n
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        I know this is a community that has a strong backbone in the Software and Technology space. I am a returning student in my mid-30’s that is returning to college as a way to pursue a career change. I am looking to crowdsource opinions from experienced tech professionals so I can make good quality, informed decisions about how I move forward with my educational and career goals.\n
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        With that being said my question is how would you proceed between the programs I have linked below? I am starting at a STEM focused community college (***Bellevue College***) in the Pacific Northwest. My long term goal is to either transfer to another four year institution (like ***UW Bothell***) grade permitting, or perhaps finish a four year degree from this institution. This is where your advice comes in, and where I believe I need better outside perspective to make a good decision.\n
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        **Option #1 (Software Development - Application Development Track)**This is where I have been leaning because it seems to afford me the largest number of future options with the direction I take my education. Most importantly I think it sets me up in the best position to make the potential transition to the University of Washington Bothell’s Computer Science & Software Engineering program. The Application Development track has a stronger focus on C# & .NET framework programming languages, which seems to provide a better foundation for more potential job opportunities at the moment.\n
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        **Option #2 (Software Development - Artificial Intelligence Track)**Artificial Intelligence is obviously the buzzword of the moment. However, I am wondering if I am robbing myself of options by over-specializing this early in the process, and I also have concerns about focusing my learning process so heavily on Python when that seems to be something that is not used as a standard backbone language for more enterprise level businesses. I also don’t have any interest in the robotics area of this degree, as I don’t see that as being something I would look to pursue in my career. I do want to be conscientious about learning whatever is going to provide me the most future utility, therefore, I am wondering if this is the way to go for that reason.\n
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        [Link to Program Information](https://catalog.bellevuecollege.edu/preview_program.php?catoid=12&poid=2932&returnto=594)\n
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        Ultimately, I am open to any and all advice, recommendations, and wisdom that my fellow Lemmings have to provide. My previous background was in a completely unrelated field, but I have always had a passion for technology and I am a quick learner with a lean lifestyle and no external distractions. Completing this process and securing employment will be my focus 100% for the next 3-4 years. With that in mind, tell me what you think.\n
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        - Where should I go with my education?\n
        - What pitfalls should I avoid?\n
        - When should I specialize?\n
        - Am I crazy for doing this later in life?\n
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        **Hit me with anything you’ve got Lemmy, it is all appreciated!**\n
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        **Edit:** I’m watching the NFC Championship Game, but I will respond to all of you as soon as it is over. Really appreciate all the responses so far!
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      If you need to crowdsource this decision *do not go to college immediately*.\n
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      College is expensive as fuck, and it is wasted on someone who doesn’t have a burning desire to be there for a specific course of study.\n
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      Instead, go live the life of a person without a degree. Just be a human for a while, and learn how to the world works. Then go to college.\n
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      If you go to college without a clear mission, you’re going to be twiddling your thumbs in a place that costs more than continuous international travel. Like, *go travel internationally* if you want a mind-expanding experience of self discovery. That will help you pick a major.\n
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      I say this as someone who went to college “as my destiny”. I went to college because it was always assumed I would go. I wasted time, money, energy, and opportunity by doing so.\n
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      Traveling the world, staying in hostels, learning bits of languages, meeting other travelers and locals, getting a little month to month apartment and waiting tables in a foreign city, partying with the locals, getting involved in whatever they’re doing, this is cheaper than college, and far more valuable, if you’re at a place where you don’t know which degree you want.\n
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      I know it takes a lot of courage to buck the trend and do what all the (foolish) grey-haired people in your life are doing.\n
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      But trust me. College is a different thing than it used to be, specifically because it got **super fucking expensive**.\n
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      College stopped being casual, and started being a very serious thing, and in that way it changed fundamentally from a place of exploration into a place of industry. It is not a place to fuck around. I mean, it is, but not wisely. There are far cheaper, far better places to explore yourself and the world.
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        Greetings fellow Lemmings,\n
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        I know this is a community that has a strong backbone in the Software and Technology space. I am a returning student in my mid-30’s that is returning to college as a way to pursue a career change. I am looking to crowdsource opinions from experienced tech professionals so I can make good quality, informed decisions about how I move forward with my educational and career goals.\n
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        With that being said my question is how would you proceed between the programs I have linked below? I am starting at a STEM focused community college (***Bellevue College***) in the Pacific Northwest. My long term goal is to either transfer to another four year institution (like ***UW Bothell***) grade permitting, or perhaps finish a four year degree from this institution. This is where your advice comes in, and where I believe I need better outside perspective to make a good decision.\n
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        **Option #1 (Software Development - Application Development Track)**This is where I have been leaning because it seems to afford me the largest number of future options with the direction I take my education. Most importantly I think it sets me up in the best position to make the potential transition to the University of Washington Bothell’s Computer Science & Software Engineering program. The Application Development track has a stronger focus on C# & .NET framework programming languages, which seems to provide a better foundation for more potential job opportunities at the moment.\n
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        **Option #2 (Software Development - Artificial Intelligence Track)**Artificial Intelligence is obviously the buzzword of the moment. However, I am wondering if I am robbing myself of options by over-specializing this early in the process, and I also have concerns about focusing my learning process so heavily on Python when that seems to be something that is not used as a standard backbone language for more enterprise level businesses. I also don’t have any interest in the robotics area of this degree, as I don’t see that as being something I would look to pursue in my career. I do want to be conscientious about learning whatever is going to provide me the most future utility, therefore, I am wondering if this is the way to go for that reason.\n
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        [Link to Program Information](https://catalog.bellevuecollege.edu/preview_program.php?catoid=12&poid=2932&returnto=594)\n
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        Ultimately, I am open to any and all advice, recommendations, and wisdom that my fellow Lemmings have to provide. My previous background was in a completely unrelated field, but I have always had a passion for technology and I am a quick learner with a lean lifestyle and no external distractions. Completing this process and securing employment will be my focus 100% for the next 3-4 years. With that in mind, tell me what you think.\n
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        - Where should I go with my education?\n
        - What pitfalls should I avoid?\n
        - When should I specialize?\n
        - Am I crazy for doing this later in life?\n
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        **Hit me with anything you’ve got Lemmy, it is all appreciated!**\n
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        **Edit:** I’m watching the NFC Championship Game, but I will respond to all of you as soon as it is over. Really appreciate all the responses so far!
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      If you need to crowdsource this decision *do not go to college immediately*.\n
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      College is expensive as fuck, and it is wasted on someone who doesn’t have a burning desire to be there for a specific course of study.\n
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      Instead, go live the life of a person without a degree. Just be a human for a while, and learn how to the world works. Then go to college.\n
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      If you go to college without a clear mission, you’re going to be twiddling your thumbs in a place that costs more than continuous international travel. Like, *go travel internationally* if you want a mind-expanding experience of self discovery. That will help you pick a major.\n
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      I say this as someone who went to college “as my destiny”. I went to college because it was always assumed I would go. I wasted time, money, energy, and opportunity by doing so.\n
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      Traveling the world, staying in hostels, learning bits of languages, meeting other travelers and locals, getting a little month to month apartment and waiting tables in a foreign city, partying with the locals, getting involved in whatever they’re doing, this is cheaper than college, and far more valuable, if you’re at a place where you don’t know which degree you want.\n
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      I know it takes a lot of courage to buck the trend and do what all the (foolish) grey-haired people in your life are doing.\n
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      But trust me. College is a different thing than it used to be, specifically because it got **super fucking expensive**.\n
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      College stopped being casual, and started being a very serious thing, and in that way it changed fundamentally from a place of exploration into a place of industry. It is not a place to fuck around. I mean, it is, but not wisely. There are far cheaper, far better places to explore yourself and the world.
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        Greetings fellow Lemmings,\n
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        I know this is a community that has a strong backbone in the Software and Technology space. I am a returning student in my mid-30’s that is returning to college as a way to pursue a career change. I am looking to crowdsource opinions from experienced tech professionals so I can make good quality, informed decisions about how I move forward with my educational and career goals.\n
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        With that being said my question is how would you proceed between the programs I have linked below? I am starting at a STEM focused community college (***Bellevue College***) in the Pacific Northwest. My long term goal is to either transfer to another four year institution (like ***UW Bothell***) grade permitting, or perhaps finish a four year degree from this institution. This is where your advice comes in, and where I believe I need better outside perspective to make a good decision.\n
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        **Option #1 (Software Development - Application Development Track)**This is where I have been leaning because it seems to afford me the largest number of future options with the direction I take my education. Most importantly I think it sets me up in the best position to make the potential transition to the University of Washington Bothell’s Computer Science & Software Engineering program. The Application Development track has a stronger focus on C# & .NET framework programming languages, which seems to provide a better foundation for more potential job opportunities at the moment.\n
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        **Option #2 (Software Development - Artificial Intelligence Track)**Artificial Intelligence is obviously the buzzword of the moment. However, I am wondering if I am robbing myself of options by over-specializing this early in the process, and I also have concerns about focusing my learning process so heavily on Python when that seems to be something that is not used as a standard backbone language for more enterprise level businesses. I also don’t have any interest in the robotics area of this degree, as I don’t see that as being something I would look to pursue in my career. I do want to be conscientious about learning whatever is going to provide me the most future utility, therefore, I am wondering if this is the way to go for that reason.\n
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        [Link to Program Information](https://catalog.bellevuecollege.edu/preview_program.php?catoid=12&poid=2932&returnto=594)\n
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        Ultimately, I am open to any and all advice, recommendations, and wisdom that my fellow Lemmings have to provide. My previous background was in a completely unrelated field, but I have always had a passion for technology and I am a quick learner with a lean lifestyle and no external distractions. Completing this process and securing employment will be my focus 100% for the next 3-4 years. With that in mind, tell me what you think.\n
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        - Am I crazy for doing this later in life?\n
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        **Hit me with anything you’ve got Lemmy, it is all appreciated!**\n
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        **Edit:** I’m watching the NFC Championship Game, but I will respond to all of you as soon as it is over. Really appreciate all the responses so far!
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      If you need to crowdsource this decision *do not go to college immediately*.\n
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      College is expensive as fuck, and it is wasted on someone who doesn’t have a burning desire to be there for a specific course of study.\n
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      If you go to college without a clear mission, you’re going to be twiddling your thumbs in a place that costs more than continuous international travel. Like, *go travel internationally* if you want a mind-expanding experience of self discovery. That will help you pick a major.\n
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      I say this as someone who went to college “as my destiny”. I went to college because it was always assumed I would go. I wasted time, money, energy, and opportunity by doing so.\n
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      Traveling the world, staying in hostels, learning bits of languages, meeting other travelers and locals, getting a little month to month apartment and waiting tables in a foreign city, partying with the locals, getting involved in whatever they’re doing, this is cheaper than college, and far more valuable, if you’re at a place where you don’t know which degree you want.\n
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      I know it takes a lot of courage to buck the trend and do what all the (foolish) grey-haired people in your life are doing.\n
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      College stopped being casual, and started being a very serious thing, and in that way it changed fundamentally from a place of exploration into a place of industry. It is not a place to fuck around. I mean, it is, but not wisely. There are far cheaper, far better places to explore yourself and the world.
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        Greetings fellow Lemmings,\n
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        I know this is a community that has a strong backbone in the Software and Technology space. I am a returning student in my mid-30’s that is returning to college as a way to pursue a career change. I am looking to crowdsource opinions from experienced tech professionals so I can make good quality, informed decisions about how I move forward with my educational and career goals.\n
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        With that being said my question is how would you proceed between the programs I have linked below? I am starting at a STEM focused community college (***Bellevue College***) in the Pacific Northwest. My long term goal is to either transfer to another four year institution (like ***UW Bothell***) grade permitting, or perhaps finish a four year degree from this institution. This is where your advice comes in, and where I believe I need better outside perspective to make a good decision.\n
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        **Option #1 (Software Development - Application Development Track)**This is where I have been leaning because it seems to afford me the largest number of future options with the direction I take my education. Most importantly I think it sets me up in the best position to make the potential transition to the University of Washington Bothell’s Computer Science & Software Engineering program. The Application Development track has a stronger focus on C# & .NET framework programming languages, which seems to provide a better foundation for more potential job opportunities at the moment.\n
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        **Option #2 (Software Development - Artificial Intelligence Track)**Artificial Intelligence is obviously the buzzword of the moment. However, I am wondering if I am robbing myself of options by over-specializing this early in the process, and I also have concerns about focusing my learning process so heavily on Python when that seems to be something that is not used as a standard backbone language for more enterprise level businesses. I also don’t have any interest in the robotics area of this degree, as I don’t see that as being something I would look to pursue in my career. I do want to be conscientious about learning whatever is going to provide me the most future utility, therefore, I am wondering if this is the way to go for that reason.\n
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        [Link to Program Information](https://catalog.bellevuecollege.edu/preview_program.php?catoid=12&poid=2932&returnto=594)\n
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        Ultimately, I am open to any and all advice, recommendations, and wisdom that my fellow Lemmings have to provide. My previous background was in a completely unrelated field, but I have always had a passion for technology and I am a quick learner with a lean lifestyle and no external distractions. Completing this process and securing employment will be my focus 100% for the next 3-4 years. With that in mind, tell me what you think.\n
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        - Where should I go with my education?\n
        - What pitfalls should I avoid?\n
        - When should I specialize?\n
        - Am I crazy for doing this later in life?\n
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        **Hit me with anything you’ve got Lemmy, it is all appreciated!**\n
        \n
        **Edit:** I’m watching the NFC Championship Game, but I will respond to all of you as soon as it is over. Really appreciate all the responses so far!
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        If you need to crowdsource this decision *do not go to college immediately*.\n
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        College is expensive as fuck, and it is wasted on someone who doesn’t have a burning desire to be there for a specific course of study.\n
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        Instead, go live the life of a person without a degree. Just be a human for a while, and learn how to the world works. Then go to college.\n
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        If you go to college without a clear mission, you’re going to be twiddling your thumbs in a place that costs more than continuous international travel. Like, *go travel internationally* if you want a mind-expanding experience of self discovery. That will help you pick a major.\n
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        I say this as someone who went to college “as my destiny”. I went to college because it was always assumed I would go. I wasted time, money, energy, and opportunity by doing so.\n
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        College used to be a place to find yourself. Then it started costing five figures per year, and it became a place you go to get what you need to make more money. That’s what it still is, and will continue to be until it becomes inexpensive again.\n
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        Traveling the world, staying in hostels, learning bits of languages, meeting other travelers and locals, getting a little month to month apartment and waiting tables in a foreign city, partying with the locals, getting involved in whatever they’re doing, this is cheaper than college, and far more valuable, if you’re at a place where you don’t know which degree you want.\n
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        I know it takes a lot of courage to buck the trend and do what all the (foolish) grey-haired people in your life are doing.\n
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        But trust me. College is a different thing than it used to be, specifically because it got **super fucking expensive**.\n
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        College stopped being casual, and started being a very serious thing, and in that way it changed fundamentally from a place of exploration into a place of industry. It is not a place to fuck around. I mean, it is, but not wisely. There are far cheaper, far better places to explore yourself and the world.
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        I know this is a community that has a strong backbone in the Software and Technology space. I am a returning student in my mid-30’s that is returning to college as a way to pursue a career change. I am looking to crowdsource opinions from experienced tech professionals so I can make good quality, informed decisions about how I move forward with my educational and career goals.\n
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        With that being said my question is how would you proceed between the programs I have linked below? I am starting at a STEM focused community college (***Bellevue College***) in the Pacific Northwest. My long term goal is to either transfer to another four year institution (like ***UW Bothell***) grade permitting, or perhaps finish a four year degree from this institution. This is where your advice comes in, and where I believe I need better outside perspective to make a good decision.\n
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        **Option #1 (Software Development - Application Development Track)**This is where I have been leaning because it seems to afford me the largest number of future options with the direction I take my education. Most importantly I think it sets me up in the best position to make the potential transition to the University of Washington Bothell’s Computer Science & Software Engineering program. The Application Development track has a stronger focus on C# & .NET framework programming languages, which seems to provide a better foundation for more potential job opportunities at the moment.\n
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        **Option #2 (Software Development - Artificial Intelligence Track)**Artificial Intelligence is obviously the buzzword of the moment. However, I am wondering if I am robbing myself of options by over-specializing this early in the process, and I also have concerns about focusing my learning process so heavily on Python when that seems to be something that is not used as a standard backbone language for more enterprise level businesses. I also don’t have any interest in the robotics area of this degree, as I don’t see that as being something I would look to pursue in my career. I do want to be conscientious about learning whatever is going to provide me the most future utility, therefore, I am wondering if this is the way to go for that reason.\n
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        [Link to Program Information](https://catalog.bellevuecollege.edu/preview_program.php?catoid=12&poid=2932&returnto=594)\n
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        Ultimately, I am open to any and all advice, recommendations, and wisdom that my fellow Lemmings have to provide. My previous background was in a completely unrelated field, but I have always had a passion for technology and I am a quick learner with a lean lifestyle and no external distractions. Completing this process and securing employment will be my focus 100% for the next 3-4 years. With that in mind, tell me what you think.\n
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        **Hit me with anything you’ve got Lemmy, it is all appreciated!**\n
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        **Edit:** I’m watching the NFC Championship Game, but I will respond to all of you as soon as it is over. Really appreciate all the responses so far!
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        College is expensive as fuck, and it is wasted on someone who doesn’t have a burning desire to be there for a specific course of study.\n
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        Traveling the world, staying in hostels, learning bits of languages, meeting other travelers and locals, getting a little month to month apartment and waiting tables in a foreign city, partying with the locals, getting involved in whatever they’re doing, this is cheaper than college, and far more valuable, if you’re at a place where you don’t know which degree you want.\n
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        I know it takes a lot of courage to buck the trend and do what all the (foolish) grey-haired people in your life are doing.\n
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        College stopped being casual, and started being a very serious thing, and in that way it changed fundamentally from a place of exploration into a place of industry. It is not a place to fuck around. I mean, it is, but not wisely. There are far cheaper, far better places to explore yourself and the world.
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        Greetings fellow Lemmings,\n
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        I know this is a community that has a strong backbone in the Software and Technology space. I am a returning student in my mid-30’s that is returning to college as a way to pursue a career change. I am looking to crowdsource opinions from experienced tech professionals so I can make good quality, informed decisions about how I move forward with my educational and career goals.\n
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        With that being said my question is how would you proceed between the programs I have linked below? I am starting at a STEM focused community college (***Bellevue College***) in the Pacific Northwest. My long term goal is to either transfer to another four year institution (like ***UW Bothell***) grade permitting, or perhaps finish a four year degree from this institution. This is where your advice comes in, and where I believe I need better outside perspective to make a good decision.\n
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        **Option #1 (Software Development - Application Development Track)**This is where I have been leaning because it seems to afford me the largest number of future options with the direction I take my education. Most importantly I think it sets me up in the best position to make the potential transition to the University of Washington Bothell’s Computer Science & Software Engineering program. The Application Development track has a stronger focus on C# & .NET framework programming languages, which seems to provide a better foundation for more potential job opportunities at the moment.\n
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        **Option #2 (Software Development - Artificial Intelligence Track)**Artificial Intelligence is obviously the buzzword of the moment. However, I am wondering if I am robbing myself of options by over-specializing this early in the process, and I also have concerns about focusing my learning process so heavily on Python when that seems to be something that is not used as a standard backbone language for more enterprise level businesses. I also don’t have any interest in the robotics area of this degree, as I don’t see that as being something I would look to pursue in my career. I do want to be conscientious about learning whatever is going to provide me the most future utility, therefore, I am wondering if this is the way to go for that reason.\n
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        [Link to Program Information](https://catalog.bellevuecollege.edu/preview_program.php?catoid=12&poid=2932&returnto=594)\n
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        Ultimately, I am open to any and all advice, recommendations, and wisdom that my fellow Lemmings have to provide. My previous background was in a completely unrelated field, but I have always had a passion for technology and I am a quick learner with a lean lifestyle and no external distractions. Completing this process and securing employment will be my focus 100% for the next 3-4 years. With that in mind, tell me what you think.\n
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        **Hit me with anything you’ve got Lemmy, it is all appreciated!**\n
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        **Edit:** I’m watching the NFC Championship Game, but I will respond to all of you as soon as it is over. Really appreciate all the responses so far!
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        College is expensive as fuck, and it is wasted on someone who doesn’t have a burning desire to be there for a specific course of study.\n
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        Traveling the world, staying in hostels, learning bits of languages, meeting other travelers and locals, getting a little month to month apartment and waiting tables in a foreign city, partying with the locals, getting involved in whatever they’re doing, this is cheaper than college, and far more valuable, if you’re at a place where you don’t know which degree you want.\n
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        I know it takes a lot of courage to buck the trend and do what all the (foolish) grey-haired people in your life are doing.\n
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        College stopped being casual, and started being a very serious thing, and in that way it changed fundamentally from a place of exploration into a place of industry. It is not a place to fuck around. I mean, it is, but not wisely. There are far cheaper, far better places to explore yourself and the world.
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        I know this is a community that has a strong backbone in the Software and Technology space. I am a returning student in my mid-30’s that is returning to college as a way to pursue a career change. I am looking to crowdsource opinions from experienced tech professionals so I can make good quality, informed decisions about how I move forward with my educational and career goals.\n
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        With that being said my question is how would you proceed between the programs I have linked below? I am starting at a STEM focused community college (***Bellevue College***) in the Pacific Northwest. My long term goal is to either transfer to another four year institution (like ***UW Bothell***) grade permitting, or perhaps finish a four year degree from this institution. This is where your advice comes in, and where I believe I need better outside perspective to make a good decision.\n
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        **Option #1 (Software Development - Application Development Track)**This is where I have been leaning because it seems to afford me the largest number of future options with the direction I take my education. Most importantly I think it sets me up in the best position to make the potential transition to the University of Washington Bothell’s Computer Science & Software Engineering program. The Application Development track has a stronger focus on C# & .NET framework programming languages, which seems to provide a better foundation for more potential job opportunities at the moment.\n
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        **Option #2 (Software Development - Artificial Intelligence Track)**Artificial Intelligence is obviously the buzzword of the moment. However, I am wondering if I am robbing myself of options by over-specializing this early in the process, and I also have concerns about focusing my learning process so heavily on Python when that seems to be something that is not used as a standard backbone language for more enterprise level businesses. I also don’t have any interest in the robotics area of this degree, as I don’t see that as being something I would look to pursue in my career. I do want to be conscientious about learning whatever is going to provide me the most future utility, therefore, I am wondering if this is the way to go for that reason.\n
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        **Edit:** I’m watching the NFC Championship Game, but I will respond to all of you as soon as it is over. Really appreciate all the responses so far!
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        If you need to crowdsource this decision *do not go to college immediately*.\n
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        College is expensive as fuck, and it is wasted on someone who doesn’t have a burning desire to be there for a specific course of study.\n
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        Instead, go live the life of a person without a degree. Just be a human for a while, and learn how to the world works. Then go to college.\n
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        If you go to college without a clear mission, you’re going to be twiddling your thumbs in a place that costs more than continuous international travel. Like, *go travel internationally* if you want a mind-expanding experience of self discovery. That will help you pick a major.\n
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        I say this as someone who went to college “as my destiny”. I went to college because it was always assumed I would go. I wasted time, money, energy, and opportunity by doing so.\n
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        College used to be a place to find yourself. Then it started costing five figures per year, and it became a place you go to get what you need to make more money. That’s what it still is, and will continue to be until it becomes inexpensive again.\n
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        Traveling the world, staying in hostels, learning bits of languages, meeting other travelers and locals, getting a little month to month apartment and waiting tables in a foreign city, partying with the locals, getting involved in whatever they’re doing, this is cheaper than college, and far more valuable, if you’re at a place where you don’t know which degree you want.\n
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        I know it takes a lot of courage to buck the trend and do what all the (foolish) grey-haired people in your life are doing.\n
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        But trust me. College is a different thing than it used to be, specifically because it got **super fucking expensive**.\n
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        College stopped being casual, and started being a very serious thing, and in that way it changed fundamentally from a place of exploration into a place of industry. It is not a place to fuck around. I mean, it is, but not wisely. There are far cheaper, far better places to explore yourself and the world.
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        Greetings fellow Lemmings,\n
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        I know this is a community that has a strong backbone in the Software and Technology space. I am a returning student in my mid-30’s that is returning to college as a way to pursue a career change. I am looking to crowdsource opinions from experienced tech professionals so I can make good quality, informed decisions about how I move forward with my educational and career goals.\n
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        With that being said my question is how would you proceed between the programs I have linked below? I am starting at a STEM focused community college (***Bellevue College***) in the Pacific Northwest. My long term goal is to either transfer to another four year institution (like ***UW Bothell***) grade permitting, or perhaps finish a four year degree from this institution. This is where your advice comes in, and where I believe I need better outside perspective to make a good decision.\n
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        **Option #1 (Software Development - Application Development Track)**This is where I have been leaning because it seems to afford me the largest number of future options with the direction I take my education. Most importantly I think it sets me up in the best position to make the potential transition to the University of Washington Bothell’s Computer Science & Software Engineering program. The Application Development track has a stronger focus on C# & .NET framework programming languages, which seems to provide a better foundation for more potential job opportunities at the moment.\n
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        **Option #2 (Software Development - Artificial Intelligence Track)**Artificial Intelligence is obviously the buzzword of the moment. However, I am wondering if I am robbing myself of options by over-specializing this early in the process, and I also have concerns about focusing my learning process so heavily on Python when that seems to be something that is not used as a standard backbone language for more enterprise level businesses. I also don’t have any interest in the robotics area of this degree, as I don’t see that as being something I would look to pursue in my career. I do want to be conscientious about learning whatever is going to provide me the most future utility, therefore, I am wondering if this is the way to go for that reason.\n
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        [Link to Program Information](https://catalog.bellevuecollege.edu/preview_program.php?catoid=12&poid=2932&returnto=594)\n
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        Ultimately, I am open to any and all advice, recommendations, and wisdom that my fellow Lemmings have to provide. My previous background was in a completely unrelated field, but I have always had a passion for technology and I am a quick learner with a lean lifestyle and no external distractions. Completing this process and securing employment will be my focus 100% for the next 3-4 years. With that in mind, tell me what you think.\n
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        - What pitfalls should I avoid?\n
        - When should I specialize?\n
        - Am I crazy for doing this later in life?\n
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        **Hit me with anything you’ve got Lemmy, it is all appreciated!**\n
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        **Edit:** I’m watching the NFC Championship Game, but I will respond to all of you as soon as it is over. Really appreciate all the responses so far!
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        Instead, go live the life of a person without a degree. Just be a human for a while, and learn how to the world works. Then go to college.\n
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        Traveling the world, staying in hostels, learning bits of languages, meeting other travelers and locals, getting a little month to month apartment and waiting tables in a foreign city, partying with the locals, getting involved in whatever they’re doing, this is cheaper than college, and far more valuable, if you’re at a place where you don’t know which degree you want.\n
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        I know it takes a lot of courage to buck the trend and do what all the (foolish) grey-haired people in your life are doing.\n
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        College stopped being casual, and started being a very serious thing, and in that way it changed fundamentally from a place of exploration into a place of industry. It is not a place to fuck around. I mean, it is, but not wisely. There are far cheaper, far better places to explore yourself and the world.
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        Greetings fellow Lemmings,\n
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        I know this is a community that has a strong backbone in the Software and Technology space. I am a returning student in my mid-30’s that is returning to college as a way to pursue a career change. I am looking to crowdsource opinions from experienced tech professionals so I can make good quality, informed decisions about how I move forward with my educational and career goals.\n
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        With that being said my question is how would you proceed between the programs I have linked below? I am starting at a STEM focused community college (***Bellevue College***) in the Pacific Northwest. My long term goal is to either transfer to another four year institution (like ***UW Bothell***) grade permitting, or perhaps finish a four year degree from this institution. This is where your advice comes in, and where I believe I need better outside perspective to make a good decision.\n
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        **Option #1 (Software Development - Application Development Track)**This is where I have been leaning because it seems to afford me the largest number of future options with the direction I take my education. Most importantly I think it sets me up in the best position to make the potential transition to the University of Washington Bothell’s Computer Science & Software Engineering program. The Application Development track has a stronger focus on C# & .NET framework programming languages, which seems to provide a better foundation for more potential job opportunities at the moment.\n
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        **Option #2 (Software Development - Artificial Intelligence Track)**Artificial Intelligence is obviously the buzzword of the moment. However, I am wondering if I am robbing myself of options by over-specializing this early in the process, and I also have concerns about focusing my learning process so heavily on Python when that seems to be something that is not used as a standard backbone language for more enterprise level businesses. I also don’t have any interest in the robotics area of this degree, as I don’t see that as being something I would look to pursue in my career. I do want to be conscientious about learning whatever is going to provide me the most future utility, therefore, I am wondering if this is the way to go for that reason.\n
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        [Link to Program Information](https://catalog.bellevuecollege.edu/preview_program.php?catoid=12&poid=2932&returnto=594)\n
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        Ultimately, I am open to any and all advice, recommendations, and wisdom that my fellow Lemmings have to provide. My previous background was in a completely unrelated field, but I have always had a passion for technology and I am a quick learner with a lean lifestyle and no external distractions. Completing this process and securing employment will be my focus 100% for the next 3-4 years. With that in mind, tell me what you think.\n
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        - Where should I go with my education?\n
        - What pitfalls should I avoid?\n
        - When should I specialize?\n
        - Am I crazy for doing this later in life?\n
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        **Hit me with anything you’ve got Lemmy, it is all appreciated!**\n
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        **Edit:** I’m watching the NFC Championship Game, but I will respond to all of you as soon as it is over. Really appreciate all the responses so far!
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        If you need to crowdsource this decision *do not go to college immediately*.\n
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        College is expensive as fuck, and it is wasted on someone who doesn’t have a burning desire to be there for a specific course of study.\n
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        Instead, go live the life of a person without a degree. Just be a human for a while, and learn how to the world works. Then go to college.\n
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        If you go to college without a clear mission, you’re going to be twiddling your thumbs in a place that costs more than continuous international travel. Like, *go travel internationally* if you want a mind-expanding experience of self discovery. That will help you pick a major.\n
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        I say this as someone who went to college “as my destiny”. I went to college because it was always assumed I would go. I wasted time, money, energy, and opportunity by doing so.\n
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        College used to be a place to find yourself. Then it started costing five figures per year, and it became a place you go to get what you need to make more money. That’s what it still is, and will continue to be until it becomes inexpensive again.\n
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        Traveling the world, staying in hostels, learning bits of languages, meeting other travelers and locals, getting a little month to month apartment and waiting tables in a foreign city, partying with the locals, getting involved in whatever they’re doing, this is cheaper than college, and far more valuable, if you’re at a place where you don’t know which degree you want.\n
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        I know it takes a lot of courage to buck the trend and do what all the (foolish) grey-haired people in your life are doing.\n
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        But trust me. College is a different thing than it used to be, specifically because it got **super fucking expensive**.\n
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        College stopped being casual, and started being a very serious thing, and in that way it changed fundamentally from a place of exploration into a place of industry. It is not a place to fuck around. I mean, it is, but not wisely. There are far cheaper, far better places to explore yourself and the world.
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        Greetings fellow Lemmings,\n
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        I know this is a community that has a strong backbone in the Software and Technology space. I am a returning student in my mid-30’s that is returning to college as a way to pursue a career change. I am looking to crowdsource opinions from experienced tech professionals so I can make good quality, informed decisions about how I move forward with my educational and career goals.\n
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        With that being said my question is how would you proceed between the programs I have linked below? I am starting at a STEM focused community college (***Bellevue College***) in the Pacific Northwest. My long term goal is to either transfer to another four year institution (like ***UW Bothell***) grade permitting, or perhaps finish a four year degree from this institution. This is where your advice comes in, and where I believe I need better outside perspective to make a good decision.\n
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        **Option #1 (Software Development - Application Development Track)**This is where I have been leaning because it seems to afford me the largest number of future options with the direction I take my education. Most importantly I think it sets me up in the best position to make the potential transition to the University of Washington Bothell’s Computer Science & Software Engineering program. The Application Development track has a stronger focus on C# & .NET framework programming languages, which seems to provide a better foundation for more potential job opportunities at the moment.\n
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        **Option #2 (Software Development - Artificial Intelligence Track)**Artificial Intelligence is obviously the buzzword of the moment. However, I am wondering if I am robbing myself of options by over-specializing this early in the process, and I also have concerns about focusing my learning process so heavily on Python when that seems to be something that is not used as a standard backbone language for more enterprise level businesses. I also don’t have any interest in the robotics area of this degree, as I don’t see that as being something I would look to pursue in my career. I do want to be conscientious about learning whatever is going to provide me the most future utility, therefore, I am wondering if this is the way to go for that reason.\n
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        [Link to Program Information](https://catalog.bellevuecollege.edu/preview_program.php?catoid=12&poid=2932&returnto=594)\n
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        Ultimately, I am open to any and all advice, recommendations, and wisdom that my fellow Lemmings have to provide. My previous background was in a completely unrelated field, but I have always had a passion for technology and I am a quick learner with a lean lifestyle and no external distractions. Completing this process and securing employment will be my focus 100% for the next 3-4 years. With that in mind, tell me what you think.\n
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        - Where should I go with my education?\n
        - What pitfalls should I avoid?\n
        - When should I specialize?\n
        - Am I crazy for doing this later in life?\n
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        **Hit me with anything you’ve got Lemmy, it is all appreciated!**\n
        \n
        **Edit:** I’m watching the NFC Championship Game, but I will respond to all of you as soon as it is over. Really appreciate all the responses so far!
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        If you need to crowdsource this decision *do not go to college immediately*.\n
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        College is expensive as fuck, and it is wasted on someone who doesn’t have a burning desire to be there for a specific course of study.\n
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        Instead, go live the life of a person without a degree. Just be a human for a while, and learn how to the world works. Then go to college.\n
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        If you go to college without a clear mission, you’re going to be twiddling your thumbs in a place that costs more than continuous international travel. Like, *go travel internationally* if you want a mind-expanding experience of self discovery. That will help you pick a major.\n
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        I say this as someone who went to college “as my destiny”. I went to college because it was always assumed I would go. I wasted time, money, energy, and opportunity by doing so.\n
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        College used to be a place to find yourself. Then it started costing five figures per year, and it became a place you go to get what you need to make more money. That’s what it still is, and will continue to be until it becomes inexpensive again.\n
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        Traveling the world, staying in hostels, learning bits of languages, meeting other travelers and locals, getting a little month to month apartment and waiting tables in a foreign city, partying with the locals, getting involved in whatever they’re doing, this is cheaper than college, and far more valuable, if you’re at a place where you don’t know which degree you want.\n
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        I know it takes a lot of courage to buck the trend and do what all the (foolish) grey-haired people in your life are doing.\n
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        But trust me. College is a different thing than it used to be, specifically because it got **super fucking expensive**.\n
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        College stopped being casual, and started being a very serious thing, and in that way it changed fundamentally from a place of exploration into a place of industry. It is not a place to fuck around. I mean, it is, but not wisely. There are far cheaper, far better places to explore yourself and the world.
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        Greetings fellow Lemmings,\n
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        I know this is a community that has a strong backbone in the Software and Technology space. I am a returning student in my mid-30’s that is returning to college as a way to pursue a career change. I am looking to crowdsource opinions from experienced tech professionals so I can make good quality, informed decisions about how I move forward with my educational and career goals.\n
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        With that being said my question is how would you proceed between the programs I have linked below? I am starting at a STEM focused community college (***Bellevue College***) in the Pacific Northwest. My long term goal is to either transfer to another four year institution (like ***UW Bothell***) grade permitting, or perhaps finish a four year degree from this institution. This is where your advice comes in, and where I believe I need better outside perspective to make a good decision.\n
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        **Option #1 (Software Development - Application Development Track)**This is where I have been leaning because it seems to afford me the largest number of future options with the direction I take my education. Most importantly I think it sets me up in the best position to make the potential transition to the University of Washington Bothell’s Computer Science & Software Engineering program. The Application Development track has a stronger focus on C# & .NET framework programming languages, which seems to provide a better foundation for more potential job opportunities at the moment.\n
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        **Option #2 (Software Development - Artificial Intelligence Track)**Artificial Intelligence is obviously the buzzword of the moment. However, I am wondering if I am robbing myself of options by over-specializing this early in the process, and I also have concerns about focusing my learning process so heavily on Python when that seems to be something that is not used as a standard backbone language for more enterprise level businesses. I also don’t have any interest in the robotics area of this degree, as I don’t see that as being something I would look to pursue in my career. I do want to be conscientious about learning whatever is going to provide me the most future utility, therefore, I am wondering if this is the way to go for that reason.\n
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        [Link to Program Information](https://catalog.bellevuecollege.edu/preview_program.php?catoid=12&poid=2932&returnto=594)\n
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        Ultimately, I am open to any and all advice, recommendations, and wisdom that my fellow Lemmings have to provide. My previous background was in a completely unrelated field, but I have always had a passion for technology and I am a quick learner with a lean lifestyle and no external distractions. Completing this process and securing employment will be my focus 100% for the next 3-4 years. With that in mind, tell me what you think.\n
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        - What pitfalls should I avoid?\n
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        - Am I crazy for doing this later in life?\n
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        **Hit me with anything you’ve got Lemmy, it is all appreciated!**\n
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        **Edit:** I’m watching the NFC Championship Game, but I will respond to all of you as soon as it is over. Really appreciate all the responses so far!
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        College is expensive as fuck, and it is wasted on someone who doesn’t have a burning desire to be there for a specific course of study.\n
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        Instead, go live the life of a person without a degree. Just be a human for a while, and learn how to the world works. Then go to college.\n
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        Traveling the world, staying in hostels, learning bits of languages, meeting other travelers and locals, getting a little month to month apartment and waiting tables in a foreign city, partying with the locals, getting involved in whatever they’re doing, this is cheaper than college, and far more valuable, if you’re at a place where you don’t know which degree you want.\n
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        I know it takes a lot of courage to buck the trend and do what all the (foolish) grey-haired people in your life are doing.\n
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        College stopped being casual, and started being a very serious thing, and in that way it changed fundamentally from a place of exploration into a place of industry. It is not a place to fuck around. I mean, it is, but not wisely. There are far cheaper, far better places to explore yourself and the world.
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        Greetings fellow Lemmings,\n
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        I know this is a community that has a strong backbone in the Software and Technology space. I am a returning student in my mid-30’s that is returning to college as a way to pursue a career change. I am looking to crowdsource opinions from experienced tech professionals so I can make good quality, informed decisions about how I move forward with my educational and career goals.\n
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        With that being said my question is how would you proceed between the programs I have linked below? I am starting at a STEM focused community college (***Bellevue College***) in the Pacific Northwest. My long term goal is to either transfer to another four year institution (like ***UW Bothell***) grade permitting, or perhaps finish a four year degree from this institution. This is where your advice comes in, and where I believe I need better outside perspective to make a good decision.\n
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        **Option #1 (Software Development - Application Development Track)**This is where I have been leaning because it seems to afford me the largest number of future options with the direction I take my education. Most importantly I think it sets me up in the best position to make the potential transition to the University of Washington Bothell’s Computer Science & Software Engineering program. The Application Development track has a stronger focus on C# & .NET framework programming languages, which seems to provide a better foundation for more potential job opportunities at the moment.\n
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        **Option #2 (Software Development - Artificial Intelligence Track)**Artificial Intelligence is obviously the buzzword of the moment. However, I am wondering if I am robbing myself of options by over-specializing this early in the process, and I also have concerns about focusing my learning process so heavily on Python when that seems to be something that is not used as a standard backbone language for more enterprise level businesses. I also don’t have any interest in the robotics area of this degree, as I don’t see that as being something I would look to pursue in my career. I do want to be conscientious about learning whatever is going to provide me the most future utility, therefore, I am wondering if this is the way to go for that reason.\n
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        [Link to Program Information](https://catalog.bellevuecollege.edu/preview_program.php?catoid=12&poid=2932&returnto=594)\n
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        Ultimately, I am open to any and all advice, recommendations, and wisdom that my fellow Lemmings have to provide. My previous background was in a completely unrelated field, but I have always had a passion for technology and I am a quick learner with a lean lifestyle and no external distractions. Completing this process and securing employment will be my focus 100% for the next 3-4 years. With that in mind, tell me what you think.\n
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        - Am I crazy for doing this later in life?\n
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        **Hit me with anything you’ve got Lemmy, it is all appreciated!**\n
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        **Edit:** I’m watching the NFC Championship Game, but I will respond to all of you as soon as it is over. Really appreciate all the responses so far!
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        Greetings fellow Lemmings,\n
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        I know this is a community that has a strong backbone in the Software and Technology space. I am a returning student in my mid-30’s that is returning to college as a way to pursue a career change. I am looking to crowdsource opinions from experienced tech professionals so I can make good quality, informed decisions about how I move forward with my educational and career goals.\n
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        With that being said my question is how would you proceed between the programs I have linked below? I am starting at a STEM focused community college (***Bellevue College***) in the Pacific Northwest. My long term goal is to either transfer to another four year institution (like ***UW Bothell***) grade permitting, or perhaps finish a four year degree from this institution. This is where your advice comes in, and where I believe I need better outside perspective to make a good decision.\n
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        **Option #1 (Software Development - Application Development Track)**This is where I have been leaning because it seems to afford me the largest number of future options with the direction I take my education. Most importantly I think it sets me up in the best position to make the potential transition to the University of Washington Bothell’s Computer Science & Software Engineering program. The Application Development track has a stronger focus on C# & .NET framework programming languages, which seems to provide a better foundation for more potential job opportunities at the moment.\n
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        **Option #2 (Software Development - Artificial Intelligence Track)**Artificial Intelligence is obviously the buzzword of the moment. However, I am wondering if I am robbing myself of options by over-specializing this early in the process, and I also have concerns about focusing my learning process so heavily on Python when that seems to be something that is not used as a standard backbone language for more enterprise level businesses. I also don’t have any interest in the robotics area of this degree, as I don’t see that as being something I would look to pursue in my career. I do want to be conscientious about learning whatever is going to provide me the most future utility, therefore, I am wondering if this is the way to go for that reason.\n
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        [Link to Program Information](https://catalog.bellevuecollege.edu/preview_program.php?catoid=12&poid=2932&returnto=594)\n
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        Ultimately, I am open to any and all advice, recommendations, and wisdom that my fellow Lemmings have to provide. My previous background was in a completely unrelated field, but I have always had a passion for technology and I am a quick learner with a lean lifestyle and no external distractions. Completing this process and securing employment will be my focus 100% for the next 3-4 years. With that in mind, tell me what you think.\n
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        - Am I crazy for doing this later in life?\n
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        **Hit me with anything you’ve got Lemmy, it is all appreciated!**\n
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        **Edit:** I’m watching the NFC Championship Game, but I will respond to all of you as soon as it is over. Really appreciate all the responses so far!
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      I’m gonna ignore any future projections on where both fields are headed, but basically if you would apply for them rn, software development leaves the nature of your future job out in the open and basically opens you up with a huge number of opportunities.\n
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      The AI one sounds cool too, but as someone who works in a company focused on research in CS-related fields, I can tell you the skillset you are required to have in order to implement AIs in any way is vastly different from software development. You lean even more into math, things stay more theoretical and academic a lot of the time and AI also forces you to think more unconventional and counter-intuitively. Now this is not in itself a bad thing, but it does narrow you down to that very specific field and it does not sound like you wanna dig yourself down another rabbit hole of a profession.\n
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      Only do AI if you are really keen to do it and you are happy even if you might be stuck in that specific field later on.\n
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      TL;DR go software development. AI doesn’t sound like a fit for you from what I could gather.\n
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      P.s. you can always fuck with AIs in your free time if you want. That’s more fun anyway.
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        Greetings fellow Lemmings,\n
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        I know this is a community that has a strong backbone in the Software and Technology space. I am a returning student in my mid-30’s that is returning to college as a way to pursue a career change. I am looking to crowdsource opinions from experienced tech professionals so I can make good quality, informed decisions about how I move forward with my educational and career goals.\n
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        With that being said my question is how would you proceed between the programs I have linked below? I am starting at a STEM focused community college (***Bellevue College***) in the Pacific Northwest. My long term goal is to either transfer to another four year institution (like ***UW Bothell***) grade permitting, or perhaps finish a four year degree from this institution. This is where your advice comes in, and where I believe I need better outside perspective to make a good decision.\n
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        **Option #1 (Software Development - Application Development Track)**This is where I have been leaning because it seems to afford me the largest number of future options with the direction I take my education. Most importantly I think it sets me up in the best position to make the potential transition to the University of Washington Bothell’s Computer Science & Software Engineering program. The Application Development track has a stronger focus on C# & .NET framework programming languages, which seems to provide a better foundation for more potential job opportunities at the moment.\n
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        **Option #2 (Software Development - Artificial Intelligence Track)**Artificial Intelligence is obviously the buzzword of the moment. However, I am wondering if I am robbing myself of options by over-specializing this early in the process, and I also have concerns about focusing my learning process so heavily on Python when that seems to be something that is not used as a standard backbone language for more enterprise level businesses. I also don’t have any interest in the robotics area of this degree, as I don’t see that as being something I would look to pursue in my career. I do want to be conscientious about learning whatever is going to provide me the most future utility, therefore, I am wondering if this is the way to go for that reason.\n
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        [Link to Program Information](https://catalog.bellevuecollege.edu/preview_program.php?catoid=12&poid=2932&returnto=594)\n
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        Ultimately, I am open to any and all advice, recommendations, and wisdom that my fellow Lemmings have to provide. My previous background was in a completely unrelated field, but I have always had a passion for technology and I am a quick learner with a lean lifestyle and no external distractions. Completing this process and securing employment will be my focus 100% for the next 3-4 years. With that in mind, tell me what you think.\n
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        **Hit me with anything you’ve got Lemmy, it is all appreciated!**\n
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        **Edit:** I’m watching the NFC Championship Game, but I will respond to all of you as soon as it is over. Really appreciate all the responses so far!
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        I know this is a community that has a strong backbone in the Software and Technology space. I am a returning student in my mid-30’s that is returning to college as a way to pursue a career change. I am looking to crowdsource opinions from experienced tech professionals so I can make good quality, informed decisions about how I move forward with my educational and career goals.\n
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        With that being said my question is how would you proceed between the programs I have linked below? I am starting at a STEM focused community college (***Bellevue College***) in the Pacific Northwest. My long term goal is to either transfer to another four year institution (like ***UW Bothell***) grade permitting, or perhaps finish a four year degree from this institution. This is where your advice comes in, and where I believe I need better outside perspective to make a good decision.\n
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        **Option #2 (Software Development - Artificial Intelligence Track)**Artificial Intelligence is obviously the buzzword of the moment. However, I am wondering if I am robbing myself of options by over-specializing this early in the process, and I also have concerns about focusing my learning process so heavily on Python when that seems to be something that is not used as a standard backbone language for more enterprise level businesses. I also don’t have any interest in the robotics area of this degree, as I don’t see that as being something I would look to pursue in my career. I do want to be conscientious about learning whatever is going to provide me the most future utility, therefore, I am wondering if this is the way to go for that reason.\n
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        Ultimately, I am open to any and all advice, recommendations, and wisdom that my fellow Lemmings have to provide. My previous background was in a completely unrelated field, but I have always had a passion for technology and I am a quick learner with a lean lifestyle and no external distractions. Completing this process and securing employment will be my focus 100% for the next 3-4 years. With that in mind, tell me what you think.\n
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        **Edit:** I’m watching the NFC Championship Game, but I will respond to all of you as soon as it is over. Really appreciate all the responses so far!
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        Greetings fellow Lemmings,\n
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        I know this is a community that has a strong backbone in the Software and Technology space. I am a returning student in my mid-30’s that is returning to college as a way to pursue a career change. I am looking to crowdsource opinions from experienced tech professionals so I can make good quality, informed decisions about how I move forward with my educational and career goals.\n
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        With that being said my question is how would you proceed between the programs I have linked below? I am starting at a STEM focused community college (***Bellevue College***) in the Pacific Northwest. My long term goal is to either transfer to another four year institution (like ***UW Bothell***) grade permitting, or perhaps finish a four year degree from this institution. This is where your advice comes in, and where I believe I need better outside perspective to make a good decision.\n
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        **Option #1 (Software Development - Application Development Track)**This is where I have been leaning because it seems to afford me the largest number of future options with the direction I take my education. Most importantly I think it sets me up in the best position to make the potential transition to the University of Washington Bothell’s Computer Science & Software Engineering program. The Application Development track has a stronger focus on C# & .NET framework programming languages, which seems to provide a better foundation for more potential job opportunities at the moment.\n
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        **Option #2 (Software Development - Artificial Intelligence Track)**Artificial Intelligence is obviously the buzzword of the moment. However, I am wondering if I am robbing myself of options by over-specializing this early in the process, and I also have concerns about focusing my learning process so heavily on Python when that seems to be something that is not used as a standard backbone language for more enterprise level businesses. I also don’t have any interest in the robotics area of this degree, as I don’t see that as being something I would look to pursue in my career. I do want to be conscientious about learning whatever is going to provide me the most future utility, therefore, I am wondering if this is the way to go for that reason.\n
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        [Link to Program Information](https://catalog.bellevuecollege.edu/preview_program.php?catoid=12&poid=2932&returnto=594)\n
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        Ultimately, I am open to any and all advice, recommendations, and wisdom that my fellow Lemmings have to provide. My previous background was in a completely unrelated field, but I have always had a passion for technology and I am a quick learner with a lean lifestyle and no external distractions. Completing this process and securing employment will be my focus 100% for the next 3-4 years. With that in mind, tell me what you think.\n
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        **Hit me with anything you’ve got Lemmy, it is all appreciated!**\n
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        **Edit:** I’m watching the NFC Championship Game, but I will respond to all of you as soon as it is over. Really appreciate all the responses so far!
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        Greetings fellow Lemmings,\n
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        I know this is a community that has a strong backbone in the Software and Technology space. I am a returning student in my mid-30’s that is returning to college as a way to pursue a career change. I am looking to crowdsource opinions from experienced tech professionals so I can make good quality, informed decisions about how I move forward with my educational and career goals.\n
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        With that being said my question is how would you proceed between the programs I have linked below? I am starting at a STEM focused community college (***Bellevue College***) in the Pacific Northwest. My long term goal is to either transfer to another four year institution (like ***UW Bothell***) grade permitting, or perhaps finish a four year degree from this institution. This is where your advice comes in, and where I believe I need better outside perspective to make a good decision.\n
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        **Option #1 (Software Development - Application Development Track)**This is where I have been leaning because it seems to afford me the largest number of future options with the direction I take my education. Most importantly I think it sets me up in the best position to make the potential transition to the University of Washington Bothell’s Computer Science & Software Engineering program. The Application Development track has a stronger focus on C# & .NET framework programming languages, which seems to provide a better foundation for more potential job opportunities at the moment.\n
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        **Option #2 (Software Development - Artificial Intelligence Track)**Artificial Intelligence is obviously the buzzword of the moment. However, I am wondering if I am robbing myself of options by over-specializing this early in the process, and I also have concerns about focusing my learning process so heavily on Python when that seems to be something that is not used as a standard backbone language for more enterprise level businesses. I also don’t have any interest in the robotics area of this degree, as I don’t see that as being something I would look to pursue in my career. I do want to be conscientious about learning whatever is going to provide me the most future utility, therefore, I am wondering if this is the way to go for that reason.\n
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        [Link to Program Information](https://catalog.bellevuecollege.edu/preview_program.php?catoid=12&poid=2932&returnto=594)\n
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        Ultimately, I am open to any and all advice, recommendations, and wisdom that my fellow Lemmings have to provide. My previous background was in a completely unrelated field, but I have always had a passion for technology and I am a quick learner with a lean lifestyle and no external distractions. Completing this process and securing employment will be my focus 100% for the next 3-4 years. With that in mind, tell me what you think.\n
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        - Am I crazy for doing this later in life?\n
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        **Hit me with anything you’ve got Lemmy, it is all appreciated!**\n
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        **Edit:** I’m watching the NFC Championship Game, but I will respond to all of you as soon as it is over. Really appreciate all the responses so far!
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        Greetings fellow Lemmings,\n
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        I know this is a community that has a strong backbone in the Software and Technology space. I am a returning student in my mid-30’s that is returning to college as a way to pursue a career change. I am looking to crowdsource opinions from experienced tech professionals so I can make good quality, informed decisions about how I move forward with my educational and career goals.\n
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        With that being said my question is how would you proceed between the programs I have linked below? I am starting at a STEM focused community college (***Bellevue College***) in the Pacific Northwest. My long term goal is to either transfer to another four year institution (like ***UW Bothell***) grade permitting, or perhaps finish a four year degree from this institution. This is where your advice comes in, and where I believe I need better outside perspective to make a good decision.\n
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        **Option #1 (Software Development - Application Development Track)**This is where I have been leaning because it seems to afford me the largest number of future options with the direction I take my education. Most importantly I think it sets me up in the best position to make the potential transition to the University of Washington Bothell’s Computer Science & Software Engineering program. The Application Development track has a stronger focus on C# & .NET framework programming languages, which seems to provide a better foundation for more potential job opportunities at the moment.\n
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        **Option #2 (Software Development - Artificial Intelligence Track)**Artificial Intelligence is obviously the buzzword of the moment. However, I am wondering if I am robbing myself of options by over-specializing this early in the process, and I also have concerns about focusing my learning process so heavily on Python when that seems to be something that is not used as a standard backbone language for more enterprise level businesses. I also don’t have any interest in the robotics area of this degree, as I don’t see that as being something I would look to pursue in my career. I do want to be conscientious about learning whatever is going to provide me the most future utility, therefore, I am wondering if this is the way to go for that reason.\n
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        [Link to Program Information](https://catalog.bellevuecollege.edu/preview_program.php?catoid=12&poid=2932&returnto=594)\n
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        Ultimately, I am open to any and all advice, recommendations, and wisdom that my fellow Lemmings have to provide. My previous background was in a completely unrelated field, but I have always had a passion for technology and I am a quick learner with a lean lifestyle and no external distractions. Completing this process and securing employment will be my focus 100% for the next 3-4 years. With that in mind, tell me what you think.\n
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        **Hit me with anything you’ve got Lemmy, it is all appreciated!**\n
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        **Edit:** I’m watching the NFC Championship Game, but I will respond to all of you as soon as it is over. Really appreciate all the responses so far!
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        Greetings fellow Lemmings,\n
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        I know this is a community that has a strong backbone in the Software and Technology space. I am a returning student in my mid-30’s that is returning to college as a way to pursue a career change. I am looking to crowdsource opinions from experienced tech professionals so I can make good quality, informed decisions about how I move forward with my educational and career goals.\n
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        With that being said my question is how would you proceed between the programs I have linked below? I am starting at a STEM focused community college (***Bellevue College***) in the Pacific Northwest. My long term goal is to either transfer to another four year institution (like ***UW Bothell***) grade permitting, or perhaps finish a four year degree from this institution. This is where your advice comes in, and where I believe I need better outside perspective to make a good decision.\n
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        **Option #1 (Software Development - Application Development Track)**This is where I have been leaning because it seems to afford me the largest number of future options with the direction I take my education. Most importantly I think it sets me up in the best position to make the potential transition to the University of Washington Bothell’s Computer Science & Software Engineering program. The Application Development track has a stronger focus on C# & .NET framework programming languages, which seems to provide a better foundation for more potential job opportunities at the moment.\n
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        **Option #2 (Software Development - Artificial Intelligence Track)**Artificial Intelligence is obviously the buzzword of the moment. However, I am wondering if I am robbing myself of options by over-specializing this early in the process, and I also have concerns about focusing my learning process so heavily on Python when that seems to be something that is not used as a standard backbone language for more enterprise level businesses. I also don’t have any interest in the robotics area of this degree, as I don’t see that as being something I would look to pursue in my career. I do want to be conscientious about learning whatever is going to provide me the most future utility, therefore, I am wondering if this is the way to go for that reason.\n
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        [Link to Program Information](https://catalog.bellevuecollege.edu/preview_program.php?catoid=12&poid=2932&returnto=594)\n
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        Ultimately, I am open to any and all advice, recommendations, and wisdom that my fellow Lemmings have to provide. My previous background was in a completely unrelated field, but I have always had a passion for technology and I am a quick learner with a lean lifestyle and no external distractions. Completing this process and securing employment will be my focus 100% for the next 3-4 years. With that in mind, tell me what you think.\n
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        - Am I crazy for doing this later in life?\n
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        **Hit me with anything you’ve got Lemmy, it is all appreciated!**\n
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        **Edit:** I’m watching the NFC Championship Game, but I will respond to all of you as soon as it is over. Really appreciate all the responses so far!
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        Greetings fellow Lemmings,\n
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        I know this is a community that has a strong backbone in the Software and Technology space. I am a returning student in my mid-30’s that is returning to college as a way to pursue a career change. I am looking to crowdsource opinions from experienced tech professionals so I can make good quality, informed decisions about how I move forward with my educational and career goals.\n
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        With that being said my question is how would you proceed between the programs I have linked below? I am starting at a STEM focused community college (***Bellevue College***) in the Pacific Northwest. My long term goal is to either transfer to another four year institution (like ***UW Bothell***) grade permitting, or perhaps finish a four year degree from this institution. This is where your advice comes in, and where I believe I need better outside perspective to make a good decision.\n
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        **Option #1 (Software Development - Application Development Track)**This is where I have been leaning because it seems to afford me the largest number of future options with the direction I take my education. Most importantly I think it sets me up in the best position to make the potential transition to the University of Washington Bothell’s Computer Science & Software Engineering program. The Application Development track has a stronger focus on C# & .NET framework programming languages, which seems to provide a better foundation for more potential job opportunities at the moment.\n
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        **Option #2 (Software Development - Artificial Intelligence Track)**Artificial Intelligence is obviously the buzzword of the moment. However, I am wondering if I am robbing myself of options by over-specializing this early in the process, and I also have concerns about focusing my learning process so heavily on Python when that seems to be something that is not used as a standard backbone language for more enterprise level businesses. I also don’t have any interest in the robotics area of this degree, as I don’t see that as being something I would look to pursue in my career. I do want to be conscientious about learning whatever is going to provide me the most future utility, therefore, I am wondering if this is the way to go for that reason.\n
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        [Link to Program Information](https://catalog.bellevuecollege.edu/preview_program.php?catoid=12&poid=2932&returnto=594)\n
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        Ultimately, I am open to any and all advice, recommendations, and wisdom that my fellow Lemmings have to provide. My previous background was in a completely unrelated field, but I have always had a passion for technology and I am a quick learner with a lean lifestyle and no external distractions. Completing this process and securing employment will be my focus 100% for the next 3-4 years. With that in mind, tell me what you think.\n
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        - Am I crazy for doing this later in life?\n
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        **Hit me with anything you’ve got Lemmy, it is all appreciated!**\n
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        **Edit:** I’m watching the NFC Championship Game, but I will respond to all of you as soon as it is over. Really appreciate all the responses so far!
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      First of all, congrats on pursuing a career change, many are afraid to do so, that makes me believe that any path you choose you will find a way to make it work for you!\n
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      **You don’t need a degree** to pursue a computer science career, it’s common practise within the field to do so, and most companies/teams/interviewers don’t really care. I don’t want to imply that a degree or higher education has no value, on the contrary it can be a great opportunity to focus on the fundamentals and experiment with many different subjects. However, that depends on you, the field is ever changing and most colleges/universities aren’t doing a great job keeping up. That’s why, if you want to go that route, you need to not be afraid to lay off the path laid by the program and specialize on your interests.\n
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      Application development is a far broader subject, but the vast majority of it is pretty limited and standsrdized. It’s the domain of most developers out there and it can range from really interesting to soul crashing boredom. If you change jobs often enough and keep learning, it can be a really rewarding path, you can make decent money (100k-300k) and you will never lose interest. Each application you work on has a domain, and you will learn a tonne about it. For me, it has been fish farming, betting, and program analysis.\n
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        I know this is a community that has a strong backbone in the Software and Technology space. I am a returning student in my mid-30’s that is returning to college as a way to pursue a career change. I am looking to crowdsource opinions from experienced tech professionals so I can make good quality, informed decisions about how I move forward with my educational and career goals.\n
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        With that being said my question is how would you proceed between the programs I have linked below? I am starting at a STEM focused community college (***Bellevue College***) in the Pacific Northwest. My long term goal is to either transfer to another four year institution (like ***UW Bothell***) grade permitting, or perhaps finish a four year degree from this institution. This is where your advice comes in, and where I believe I need better outside perspective to make a good decision.\n
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        **Option #1 (Software Development - Application Development Track)**This is where I have been leaning because it seems to afford me the largest number of future options with the direction I take my education. Most importantly I think it sets me up in the best position to make the potential transition to the University of Washington Bothell’s Computer Science & Software Engineering program. The Application Development track has a stronger focus on C# & .NET framework programming languages, which seems to provide a better foundation for more potential job opportunities at the moment.\n
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        **Option #2 (Software Development - Artificial Intelligence Track)**Artificial Intelligence is obviously the buzzword of the moment. However, I am wondering if I am robbing myself of options by over-specializing this early in the process, and I also have concerns about focusing my learning process so heavily on Python when that seems to be something that is not used as a standard backbone language for more enterprise level businesses. I also don’t have any interest in the robotics area of this degree, as I don’t see that as being something I would look to pursue in my career. I do want to be conscientious about learning whatever is going to provide me the most future utility, therefore, I am wondering if this is the way to go for that reason.\n
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        [Link to Program Information](https://catalog.bellevuecollege.edu/preview_program.php?catoid=12&poid=2932&returnto=594)\n
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        **Hit me with anything you’ve got Lemmy, it is all appreciated!**\n
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        **Edit:** I’m watching the NFC Championship Game, but I will respond to all of you as soon as it is over. Really appreciate all the responses so far!
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      **You don’t need a degree** to pursue a computer science career, it’s common practise within the field to do so, and most companies/teams/interviewers don’t really care. I don’t want to imply that a degree or higher education has no value, on the contrary it can be a great opportunity to focus on the fundamentals and experiment with many different subjects. However, that depends on you, the field is ever changing and most colleges/universities aren’t doing a great job keeping up. That’s why, if you want to go that route, you need to not be afraid to lay off the path laid by the program and specialize on your interests.\n
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        Greetings fellow Lemmings,\n
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        I know this is a community that has a strong backbone in the Software and Technology space. I am a returning student in my mid-30’s that is returning to college as a way to pursue a career change. I am looking to crowdsource opinions from experienced tech professionals so I can make good quality, informed decisions about how I move forward with my educational and career goals.\n
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        With that being said my question is how would you proceed between the programs I have linked below? I am starting at a STEM focused community college (***Bellevue College***) in the Pacific Northwest. My long term goal is to either transfer to another four year institution (like ***UW Bothell***) grade permitting, or perhaps finish a four year degree from this institution. This is where your advice comes in, and where I believe I need better outside perspective to make a good decision.\n
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        **Option #1 (Software Development - Application Development Track)**This is where I have been leaning because it seems to afford me the largest number of future options with the direction I take my education. Most importantly I think it sets me up in the best position to make the potential transition to the University of Washington Bothell’s Computer Science & Software Engineering program. The Application Development track has a stronger focus on C# & .NET framework programming languages, which seems to provide a better foundation for more potential job opportunities at the moment.\n
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        **Option #2 (Software Development - Artificial Intelligence Track)**Artificial Intelligence is obviously the buzzword of the moment. However, I am wondering if I am robbing myself of options by over-specializing this early in the process, and I also have concerns about focusing my learning process so heavily on Python when that seems to be something that is not used as a standard backbone language for more enterprise level businesses. I also don’t have any interest in the robotics area of this degree, as I don’t see that as being something I would look to pursue in my career. I do want to be conscientious about learning whatever is going to provide me the most future utility, therefore, I am wondering if this is the way to go for that reason.\n
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        [Link to Program Information](https://catalog.bellevuecollege.edu/preview_program.php?catoid=12&poid=2932&returnto=594)\n
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        Ultimately, I am open to any and all advice, recommendations, and wisdom that my fellow Lemmings have to provide. My previous background was in a completely unrelated field, but I have always had a passion for technology and I am a quick learner with a lean lifestyle and no external distractions. Completing this process and securing employment will be my focus 100% for the next 3-4 years. With that in mind, tell me what you think.\n
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        - Am I crazy for doing this later in life?\n
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        **Hit me with anything you’ve got Lemmy, it is all appreciated!**\n
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        **Edit:** I’m watching the NFC Championship Game, but I will respond to all of you as soon as it is over. Really appreciate all the responses so far!
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      **You don’t need a degree** to pursue a computer science career, it’s common practise within the field to do so, and most companies/teams/interviewers don’t really care. I don’t want to imply that a degree or higher education has no value, on the contrary it can be a great opportunity to focus on the fundamentals and experiment with many different subjects. However, that depends on you, the field is ever changing and most colleges/universities aren’t doing a great job keeping up. That’s why, if you want to go that route, you need to not be afraid to lay off the path laid by the program and specialize on your interests.\n
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      Application development is a far broader subject, but the vast majority of it is pretty limited and standsrdized. It’s the domain of most developers out there and it can range from really interesting to soul crashing boredom. If you change jobs often enough and keep learning, it can be a really rewarding path, you can make decent money (100k-300k) and you will never lose interest. Each application you work on has a domain, and you will learn a tonne about it. For me, it has been fish farming, betting, and program analysis.\n
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        I know this is a community that has a strong backbone in the Software and Technology space. I am a returning student in my mid-30’s that is returning to college as a way to pursue a career change. I am looking to crowdsource opinions from experienced tech professionals so I can make good quality, informed decisions about how I move forward with my educational and career goals.\n
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        With that being said my question is how would you proceed between the programs I have linked below? I am starting at a STEM focused community college (***Bellevue College***) in the Pacific Northwest. My long term goal is to either transfer to another four year institution (like ***UW Bothell***) grade permitting, or perhaps finish a four year degree from this institution. This is where your advice comes in, and where I believe I need better outside perspective to make a good decision.\n
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        **Option #1 (Software Development - Application Development Track)**This is where I have been leaning because it seems to afford me the largest number of future options with the direction I take my education. Most importantly I think it sets me up in the best position to make the potential transition to the University of Washington Bothell’s Computer Science & Software Engineering program. The Application Development track has a stronger focus on C# & .NET framework programming languages, which seems to provide a better foundation for more potential job opportunities at the moment.\n
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        **Option #2 (Software Development - Artificial Intelligence Track)**Artificial Intelligence is obviously the buzzword of the moment. However, I am wondering if I am robbing myself of options by over-specializing this early in the process, and I also have concerns about focusing my learning process so heavily on Python when that seems to be something that is not used as a standard backbone language for more enterprise level businesses. I also don’t have any interest in the robotics area of this degree, as I don’t see that as being something I would look to pursue in my career. I do want to be conscientious about learning whatever is going to provide me the most future utility, therefore, I am wondering if this is the way to go for that reason.\n
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        [Link to Program Information](https://catalog.bellevuecollege.edu/preview_program.php?catoid=12&poid=2932&returnto=594)\n
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        **Edit:** I’m watching the NFC Championship Game, but I will respond to all of you as soon as it is over. Really appreciate all the responses so far!
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        I know this is a community that has a strong backbone in the Software and Technology space. I am a returning student in my mid-30’s that is returning to college as a way to pursue a career change. I am looking to crowdsource opinions from experienced tech professionals so I can make good quality, informed decisions about how I move forward with my educational and career goals.\n
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        With that being said my question is how would you proceed between the programs I have linked below? I am starting at a STEM focused community college (***Bellevue College***) in the Pacific Northwest. My long term goal is to either transfer to another four year institution (like ***UW Bothell***) grade permitting, or perhaps finish a four year degree from this institution. This is where your advice comes in, and where I believe I need better outside perspective to make a good decision.\n
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        **Option #1 (Software Development - Application Development Track)**This is where I have been leaning because it seems to afford me the largest number of future options with the direction I take my education. Most importantly I think it sets me up in the best position to make the potential transition to the University of Washington Bothell’s Computer Science & Software Engineering program. The Application Development track has a stronger focus on C# & .NET framework programming languages, which seems to provide a better foundation for more potential job opportunities at the moment.\n
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        **Option #2 (Software Development - Artificial Intelligence Track)**Artificial Intelligence is obviously the buzzword of the moment. However, I am wondering if I am robbing myself of options by over-specializing this early in the process, and I also have concerns about focusing my learning process so heavily on Python when that seems to be something that is not used as a standard backbone language for more enterprise level businesses. I also don’t have any interest in the robotics area of this degree, as I don’t see that as being something I would look to pursue in my career. I do want to be conscientious about learning whatever is going to provide me the most future utility, therefore, I am wondering if this is the way to go for that reason.\n
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        **Hit me with anything you’ve got Lemmy, it is all appreciated!**\n
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        **Edit:** I’m watching the NFC Championship Game, but I will respond to all of you as soon as it is over. Really appreciate all the responses so far!
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        I know this is a community that has a strong backbone in the Software and Technology space. I am a returning student in my mid-30’s that is returning to college as a way to pursue a career change. I am looking to crowdsource opinions from experienced tech professionals so I can make good quality, informed decisions about how I move forward with my educational and career goals.\n
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        With that being said my question is how would you proceed between the programs I have linked below? I am starting at a STEM focused community college (***Bellevue College***) in the Pacific Northwest. My long term goal is to either transfer to another four year institution (like ***UW Bothell***) grade permitting, or perhaps finish a four year degree from this institution. This is where your advice comes in, and where I believe I need better outside perspective to make a good decision.\n
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        **Option #1 (Software Development - Application Development Track)**This is where I have been leaning because it seems to afford me the largest number of future options with the direction I take my education. Most importantly I think it sets me up in the best position to make the potential transition to the University of Washington Bothell’s Computer Science & Software Engineering program. The Application Development track has a stronger focus on C# & .NET framework programming languages, which seems to provide a better foundation for more potential job opportunities at the moment.\n
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        **Option #2 (Software Development - Artificial Intelligence Track)**Artificial Intelligence is obviously the buzzword of the moment. However, I am wondering if I am robbing myself of options by over-specializing this early in the process, and I also have concerns about focusing my learning process so heavily on Python when that seems to be something that is not used as a standard backbone language for more enterprise level businesses. I also don’t have any interest in the robotics area of this degree, as I don’t see that as being something I would look to pursue in my career. I do want to be conscientious about learning whatever is going to provide me the most future utility, therefore, I am wondering if this is the way to go for that reason.\n
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        [Link to Program Information](https://catalog.bellevuecollege.edu/preview_program.php?catoid=12&poid=2932&returnto=594)\n
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        Ultimately, I am open to any and all advice, recommendations, and wisdom that my fellow Lemmings have to provide. My previous background was in a completely unrelated field, but I have always had a passion for technology and I am a quick learner with a lean lifestyle and no external distractions. Completing this process and securing employment will be my focus 100% for the next 3-4 years. With that in mind, tell me what you think.\n
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        - What pitfalls should I avoid?\n
        - When should I specialize?\n
        - Am I crazy for doing this later in life?\n
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        **Hit me with anything you’ve got Lemmy, it is all appreciated!**\n
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        **Edit:** I’m watching the NFC Championship Game, but I will respond to all of you as soon as it is over. Really appreciate all the responses so far!
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        Greetings fellow Lemmings,\n
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        I know this is a community that has a strong backbone in the Software and Technology space. I am a returning student in my mid-30’s that is returning to college as a way to pursue a career change. I am looking to crowdsource opinions from experienced tech professionals so I can make good quality, informed decisions about how I move forward with my educational and career goals.\n
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        With that being said my question is how would you proceed between the programs I have linked below? I am starting at a STEM focused community college (***Bellevue College***) in the Pacific Northwest. My long term goal is to either transfer to another four year institution (like ***UW Bothell***) grade permitting, or perhaps finish a four year degree from this institution. This is where your advice comes in, and where I believe I need better outside perspective to make a good decision.\n
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        **Option #1 (Software Development - Application Development Track)**This is where I have been leaning because it seems to afford me the largest number of future options with the direction I take my education. Most importantly I think it sets me up in the best position to make the potential transition to the University of Washington Bothell’s Computer Science & Software Engineering program. The Application Development track has a stronger focus on C# & .NET framework programming languages, which seems to provide a better foundation for more potential job opportunities at the moment.\n
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        **Option #2 (Software Development - Artificial Intelligence Track)**Artificial Intelligence is obviously the buzzword of the moment. However, I am wondering if I am robbing myself of options by over-specializing this early in the process, and I also have concerns about focusing my learning process so heavily on Python when that seems to be something that is not used as a standard backbone language for more enterprise level businesses. I also don’t have any interest in the robotics area of this degree, as I don’t see that as being something I would look to pursue in my career. I do want to be conscientious about learning whatever is going to provide me the most future utility, therefore, I am wondering if this is the way to go for that reason.\n
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        [Link to Program Information](https://catalog.bellevuecollege.edu/preview_program.php?catoid=12&poid=2932&returnto=594)\n
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        Ultimately, I am open to any and all advice, recommendations, and wisdom that my fellow Lemmings have to provide. My previous background was in a completely unrelated field, but I have always had a passion for technology and I am a quick learner with a lean lifestyle and no external distractions. Completing this process and securing employment will be my focus 100% for the next 3-4 years. With that in mind, tell me what you think.\n
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        **Hit me with anything you’ve got Lemmy, it is all appreciated!**\n
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        **Edit:** I’m watching the NFC Championship Game, but I will respond to all of you as soon as it is over. Really appreciate all the responses so far!
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      First of all, congrats on pursuing a career change, many are afraid to do so, that makes me believe that any path you choose you will find a way to make it work for you!\n
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      **You don’t need a degree** to pursue a computer science career, it’s common practise within the field to do so, and most companies/teams/interviewers don’t really care. I don’t want to imply that a degree or higher education has no value, on the contrary it can be a great opportunity to focus on the fundamentals and experiment with many different subjects. However, that depends on you, the field is ever changing and most colleges/universities aren’t doing a great job keeping up. That’s why, if you want to go that route, you need to not be afraid to lay off the path laid by the program and specialize on your interests.\n
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      Application development is a far broader subject, but the vast majority of it is pretty limited and standsrdized. It’s the domain of most developers out there and it can range from really interesting to soul crashing boredom. If you change jobs often enough and keep learning, it can be a really rewarding path, you can make decent money (100k-300k) and you will never lose interest. Each application you work on has a domain, and you will learn a tonne about it. For me, it has been fish farming, betting, and program analysis.\n
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        Greetings fellow Lemmings,\n
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        I know this is a community that has a strong backbone in the Software and Technology space. I am a returning student in my mid-30’s that is returning to college as a way to pursue a career change. I am looking to crowdsource opinions from experienced tech professionals so I can make good quality, informed decisions about how I move forward with my educational and career goals.\n
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        With that being said my question is how would you proceed between the programs I have linked below? I am starting at a STEM focused community college (***Bellevue College***) in the Pacific Northwest. My long term goal is to either transfer to another four year institution (like ***UW Bothell***) grade permitting, or perhaps finish a four year degree from this institution. This is where your advice comes in, and where I believe I need better outside perspective to make a good decision.\n
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        **Option #1 (Software Development - Application Development Track)**This is where I have been leaning because it seems to afford me the largest number of future options with the direction I take my education. Most importantly I think it sets me up in the best position to make the potential transition to the University of Washington Bothell’s Computer Science & Software Engineering program. The Application Development track has a stronger focus on C# & .NET framework programming languages, which seems to provide a better foundation for more potential job opportunities at the moment.\n
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        **Option #2 (Software Development - Artificial Intelligence Track)**Artificial Intelligence is obviously the buzzword of the moment. However, I am wondering if I am robbing myself of options by over-specializing this early in the process, and I also have concerns about focusing my learning process so heavily on Python when that seems to be something that is not used as a standard backbone language for more enterprise level businesses. I also don’t have any interest in the robotics area of this degree, as I don’t see that as being something I would look to pursue in my career. I do want to be conscientious about learning whatever is going to provide me the most future utility, therefore, I am wondering if this is the way to go for that reason.\n
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        [Link to Program Information](https://catalog.bellevuecollege.edu/preview_program.php?catoid=12&poid=2932&returnto=594)\n
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        Ultimately, I am open to any and all advice, recommendations, and wisdom that my fellow Lemmings have to provide. My previous background was in a completely unrelated field, but I have always had a passion for technology and I am a quick learner with a lean lifestyle and no external distractions. Completing this process and securing employment will be my focus 100% for the next 3-4 years. With that in mind, tell me what you think.\n
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        **Hit me with anything you’ve got Lemmy, it is all appreciated!**\n
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        **Edit:** I’m watching the NFC Championship Game, but I will respond to all of you as soon as it is over. Really appreciate all the responses so far!
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      First of all, congrats on pursuing a career change, many are afraid to do so, that makes me believe that any path you choose you will find a way to make it work for you!\n
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      **You don’t need a degree** to pursue a computer science career, it’s common practise within the field to do so, and most companies/teams/interviewers don’t really care. I don’t want to imply that a degree or higher education has no value, on the contrary it can be a great opportunity to focus on the fundamentals and experiment with many different subjects. However, that depends on you, the field is ever changing and most colleges/universities aren’t doing a great job keeping up. That’s why, if you want to go that route, you need to not be afraid to lay off the path laid by the program and specialize on your interests.\n
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      I would suggest AI if you like data science, it’s a broad subject ranging from working numbers on excel day in day out, to producing complex mathematical formulas to explain how a model is able to predict something considered impossible for humans. Don’t be discouraged because it’s a buzzword, it’s true; everyone is doing it and most are selling snake oil or worse, but there are still some really interesting/fascinating real world applications.\n
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      Application development is a far broader subject, but the vast majority of it is pretty limited and standsrdized. It’s the domain of most developers out there and it can range from really interesting to soul crashing boredom. If you change jobs often enough and keep learning, it can be a really rewarding path, you can make decent money (100k-300k) and you will never lose interest. Each application you work on has a domain, and you will learn a tonne about it. For me, it has been fish farming, betting, and program analysis.\n
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      Keep in mind that choosing a track is not restricting for your career, you can make changes in little to no time. Sometimes you accept a new job that seems a little out of your area of comfort, or you start helping out a colleague and slowly switch to a new role, or you just read an article and decide you want to do that.\n
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      Last but not least, the specific technologies are not important, but the time you finish they will be obsolete anyway. However, the skills you will gain while learning them, will be highly transferable. Once you learn your 3rd language there is no language you can learn within a few days.\n
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      PS if you are in it for the money, just go do a JavaScript 6month bootcamp and get a six figure salary.
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Input props
[
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[]
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Input props
[
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Attributes
[]
Component
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Input props
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[]
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Input props
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[]
Component
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[]
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      \n
      [No Stupid Questions](/c/nostupidquestions@lemmy.world)\n
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      [You Should Know](/c/youshouldknow@lemmy.world)\n
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      Logo design credit goes to: [tubbadu](/u/tubbadu@lemmy.world)\n
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      [No Stupid Questions](/c/nostupidquestions@lemmy.world)\n
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      \n
      [Tech Support](/c/techsupport@lemmy.world)\n
      \n
      [No Stupid Questions](/c/nostupidquestions@lemmy.world)\n
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      [You Should Know](/c/youshouldknow@lemmy.world)\n
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      \n
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      \n
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      \n
      [No Stupid Questions](/c/nostupidquestions@lemmy.world)\n
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[
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[]
Component
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Component
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      [Tech Support](/c/techsupport@lemmy.world)\n
      \n
      [No Stupid Questions](/c/nostupidquestions@lemmy.world)\n
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      [You Should Know](/c/youshouldknow@lemmy.world)\n
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      [Jokes](/c/jokes@lemmy.world)\n
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      Logo design credit goes to: [tubbadu](/u/tubbadu@lemmy.world)\n
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      Reminder: The [terms of service](https://legal.lemmy.world/tos/) apply here too.\n
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      [Tech Support](/c/techsupport@lemmy.world)\n
      \n
      [No Stupid Questions](/c/nostupidquestions@lemmy.world)\n
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      [You Should Know](/c/youshouldknow@lemmy.world)\n
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      [Reddit](/c/reddit@lemmy.world)\n
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      [Jokes](/c/jokes@lemmy.world)\n
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      [Ask Ouija](/c/askouija@lemmy.world)\n
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      Logo design credit goes to: [tubbadu](/u/tubbadu@lemmy.world)\n
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