GET https://kbin.spritesserver.nl/m/linux@lemmy.ml/t/13243/How-to-fix/comment/131955/votes/up

Response
200 OK
IP
3.138.124.40
Profiled on
Token
4541dd

Security

Token

There is no security token.

Firewall

main Name
Security enabled
Stateless

Configuration

Key Value
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context main
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user_checker App\Security\UserChecker
access_denied_handler (none)
access_denied_url (none)
authenticators 
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Authenticators

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Access Decision

affirmative Strategy
# Voter class
1 
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2 
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3 
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4 
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5 
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6 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
7 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
8 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
9 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
10 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
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12 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
13 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
14 
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"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
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"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
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    That’s not what I’m saying. I’m saying that if you hate the project, don’t hate on the developer. Poettering has made a project that is universally considered an improvement to the Linux desktop space. You don’t like it? There are other projects out there. The Linux space is one of those spaces where there are always alternatives. You don’t like MS Office Online? Use LibreOffice? You don’t like that either? There is only office and others? You don’t like the direction Firefox is heading in? Use Brave. You don’t want to use Chromium because you want to prevent the domination of their browser engine? Use Librewolf. All the above applies to you, and you have simple browsing needs? Use Epiphany. You don’t like GNOME but love vim and keyboard-driven setups? Use qutebrowser or vimb (yes, there is a browser named vimb, vim with a b at the end). The point is, there is choice. You don’t like Arch because it uses systemd? Use Artix. You like runit which you used with Artix but you want more stable software? Use Void. You liked openrc instead? Use Devuan or Alpine. You don’t mind compiling from source? Use Gentoo. You want something FSF-approved? Use Guix. You like the ideas behind Guix but got tired of the software freedom stuff? Use NixOS (oh wait, that one uses systemd).\n
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    Point is, there is choice in the Linux world. It’s one of rhe things we’re famous on. You don’t like a project? Use something else. You want to share your experience and reasoning as to why you don’t like a project? Go ahead, I’d love to read about it. But looking down on and insulting developers for projects they have made, for their contributions and improvements they have brought to the space, whether you agree with them or not, is not right. People should be applauded for improving Linux. Most of them do it in their free time and do not get paid for it (not sure if Poettering started systemd as a part of his job at RedHat or in his free time, though). What I’m saying is, share your opinion on the project, and move on. If someone asks you to elaborate, you’re welcome to do so. Just don’t get the dev involved. I don’t hear of people abandoning Hyprland because of some controversial things Vaxry has said (I can no longer recall what he said exactly but I remember hearing something hadistribution).\n
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    Anyways, I’m just wasting one of, if not THE most precious resource of our lives: my time, so I’ll be wrapping up here. If you have any responses, I might read them if I get around to it, and if I find it meaningful, I might post a response. For now, I wish you all the best in your endeavours, whatever they may be, and I hope that some of the examples I gave above can be useful in guiding you towards finding a systemd-free distribution, if you choose to do so. Cheers.
    """
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 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
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3 DENIED edit 
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    That’s not what I’m saying. I’m saying that if you hate the project, don’t hate on the developer. Poettering has made a project that is universally considered an improvement to the Linux desktop space. You don’t like it? There are other projects out there. The Linux space is one of those spaces where there are always alternatives. You don’t like MS Office Online? Use LibreOffice? You don’t like that either? There is only office and others? You don’t like the direction Firefox is heading in? Use Brave. You don’t want to use Chromium because you want to prevent the domination of their browser engine? Use Librewolf. All the above applies to you, and you have simple browsing needs? Use Epiphany. You don’t like GNOME but love vim and keyboard-driven setups? Use qutebrowser or vimb (yes, there is a browser named vimb, vim with a b at the end). The point is, there is choice. You don’t like Arch because it uses systemd? Use Artix. You like runit which you used with Artix but you want more stable software? Use Void. You liked openrc instead? Use Devuan or Alpine. You don’t mind compiling from source? Use Gentoo. You want something FSF-approved? Use Guix. You like the ideas behind Guix but got tired of the software freedom stuff? Use NixOS (oh wait, that one uses systemd).\n
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    That’s not what I’m saying. I’m saying that if you hate the project, don’t hate on the developer. Poettering has made a project that is universally considered an improvement to the Linux desktop space. You don’t like it? There are other projects out there. The Linux space is one of those spaces where there are always alternatives. You don’t like MS Office Online? Use LibreOffice? You don’t like that either? There is only office and others? You don’t like the direction Firefox is heading in? Use Brave. You don’t want to use Chromium because you want to prevent the domination of their browser engine? Use Librewolf. All the above applies to you, and you have simple browsing needs? Use Epiphany. You don’t like GNOME but love vim and keyboard-driven setups? Use qutebrowser or vimb (yes, there is a browser named vimb, vim with a b at the end). The point is, there is choice. You don’t like Arch because it uses systemd? Use Artix. You like runit which you used with Artix but you want more stable software? Use Void. You liked openrc instead? Use Devuan or Alpine. You don’t mind compiling from source? Use Gentoo. You want something FSF-approved? Use Guix. You like the ideas behind Guix but got tired of the software freedom stuff? Use NixOS (oh wait, that one uses systemd).\n
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