GET https://kbin.spritesserver.nl/m/memes@lemmy.ml/t/14799/Why-Are-we-not-doing-enough/comment/151079/votes/up

Security

Token

There is no security token.

Firewall

main Name
Security enabled
Stateless

Configuration

Key Value
provider security.user.provider.concrete.app_user_provider
context main
entry_point App\Security\KbinAuthenticator
user_checker App\Security\UserChecker
access_denied_handler (none)
access_denied_url (none)
authenticators
[
  "two_factor"
  "remember_me"
  "App\Security\KbinAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\FacebookAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\GoogleAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\GithubAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\KeycloakAuthenticator"
]

Listeners

Listener Duration Response
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\ChannelListener {#723
  -map: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\AccessMap {#722 …}
  -logger: Monolog\Logger {#783 …}
  -httpPort: 80
  -httpsPort: 443
}
0.00 ms (none)
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\ContextListener {#706
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\TokenStorage {#1017 …}
  -sessionKey: "_security_main"
  -logger: Monolog\Logger {#783 …}
  -userProviders: Symfony\Component\DependencyInjection\Argument\RewindableGenerator {#705 …}
  -dispatcher: Symfony\Component\EventDispatcher\Debug\TraceableEventDispatcher {#747 …}
  -registered: false
  -trustResolver: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authentication\AuthenticationTrustResolver {#780 …}
  -sessionTrackerEnabler: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage::enableUsageTracking(): void {#703 …}
}
0.72 ms (none)
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\AuthenticatorManagerListener {#584
  -authenticatorManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Authentication\AuthenticatorManager {#595 …}
}
0.00 ms (none)
Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Http\Firewall\TwoFactorAccessListener {#582
  -twoFactorFirewallConfig: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\TwoFactor\TwoFactorFirewallConfig {#842 …}
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -twoFactorAccessDecider: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\TwoFactorAccessDecider {#581 …}
}
0.04 ms (none)
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\AccessListener {#579
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -accessDecisionManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\TraceableAccessDecisionManager {#937 …}
  -map: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\AccessMap {#722 …}
}
0.00 ms (none)
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\LogoutListener {#786
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -options: [
    "csrf_parameter" => "_csrf_token"
    "csrf_token_id" => "logout"
    "logout_path" => "app_logout"
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  -httpUtils: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\HttpUtils {#841 …}
  -csrfTokenManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Csrf\CsrfTokenManager {#1015 …}
  -eventDispatcher: Symfony\Component\EventDispatcher\Debug\TraceableEventDispatcher {#747 …}
}
0.00 ms (none)

Authenticators

No authenticators have been recorded. Check previous profiles on your authentication endpoint.

Access Decision

affirmative Strategy
# Voter class
1
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\AuthenticatedVoter"
2
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
3
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
4
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\ExpressionVoter"
5
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
6
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
7
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
8
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
9
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
10
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
11
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
12
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
13
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
14
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"

Access decision log

# Result Attributes Object
1 DENIED ROLE_USER
null
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
ACCESS DENIED
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
2 DENIED moderate
App\Entity\EntryComment {#1369
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      #### Rules:\n
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    It’s about creating and keeping things moving rather than just consuming. I wouldn’t expect lemmy to move as fast as reddit because the focus isn’t in having an algorithm or creating a selection of communities to prop up the front page. It depends a lot more on the user’s curiosity to find an interesting space to comment or share links or media. Removing the commercial aspect of it, removes a big drive for engagement by design.\n
    \n
    Lemmy being free of modern engagement tools will always make it a slower, less interesting site than reddit or any other social website. It could have a similar fate to older web forums if we expect it to perform just like commercial social networks, we should be conscious of that and refrain from proprietary networks and visit lemmy or other fediverse alternatives when it’s interesting to us.\n
    \n
    The reality of most of this websites is that they aren’t really necessary in our lives, the reason they’re kept alive is because they’re designed to make us keep an eye on them and fill us with not actually necessary content. We aren’t users, we are used by corporations so they can put an ad in between, or to gather information about us, so that their customers (those who pay for ad space) can pay for their service making the best targeted ad campaigns possible.\n
    \n
    I’m not sure if you are really active on lemmy’s ML communities, but there’s plenty in lemmy.ml. I don’t participate in them, but I do try to keep posting in the instance I like, you’re welcome to post and comment wherever you like. :)
    """
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ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
ACCESS DENIED
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
3 DENIED edit
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      #### Rules:\n
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    It’s about creating and keeping things moving rather than just consuming. I wouldn’t expect lemmy to move as fast as reddit because the focus isn’t in having an algorithm or creating a selection of communities to prop up the front page. It depends a lot more on the user’s curiosity to find an interesting space to comment or share links or media. Removing the commercial aspect of it, removes a big drive for engagement by design.\n
    \n
    Lemmy being free of modern engagement tools will always make it a slower, less interesting site than reddit or any other social website. It could have a similar fate to older web forums if we expect it to perform just like commercial social networks, we should be conscious of that and refrain from proprietary networks and visit lemmy or other fediverse alternatives when it’s interesting to us.\n
    \n
    The reality of most of this websites is that they aren’t really necessary in our lives, the reason they’re kept alive is because they’re designed to make us keep an eye on them and fill us with not actually necessary content. We aren’t users, we are used by corporations so they can put an ad in between, or to gather information about us, so that their customers (those who pay for ad space) can pay for their service making the best targeted ad campaigns possible.\n
    \n
    I’m not sure if you are really active on lemmy’s ML communities, but there’s plenty in lemmy.ml. I don’t participate in them, but I do try to keep posting in the instance I like, you’re welcome to post and comment wherever you like. :)
    """
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ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
ACCESS DENIED
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
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ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
4 DENIED moderate
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    It’s about creating and keeping things moving rather than just consuming. I wouldn’t expect lemmy to move as fast as reddit because the focus isn’t in having an algorithm or creating a selection of communities to prop up the front page. It depends a lot more on the user’s curiosity to find an interesting space to comment or share links or media. Removing the commercial aspect of it, removes a big drive for engagement by design.\n
    \n
    Lemmy being free of modern engagement tools will always make it a slower, less interesting site than reddit or any other social website. It could have a similar fate to older web forums if we expect it to perform just like commercial social networks, we should be conscious of that and refrain from proprietary networks and visit lemmy or other fediverse alternatives when it’s interesting to us.\n
    \n
    The reality of most of this websites is that they aren’t really necessary in our lives, the reason they’re kept alive is because they’re designed to make us keep an eye on them and fill us with not actually necessary content. We aren’t users, we are used by corporations so they can put an ad in between, or to gather information about us, so that their customers (those who pay for ad space) can pay for their service making the best targeted ad campaigns possible.\n
    \n
    I’m not sure if you are really active on lemmy’s ML communities, but there’s plenty in lemmy.ml. I don’t participate in them, but I do try to keep posting in the instance I like, you’re welcome to post and comment wherever you like. :)
    """
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