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Well, one context I’m already familiar with is the counter-terrorism duty in the UK. There is a program called [Prevent](https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/prevent-duty-guidance/revised-prevent-duty-guidance-for-england-and-wales) that is designed to tackle radicalisation risk that could result in terrorism or non-violent extremism.\n
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In what context?\n
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Well, one context I’m already familiar with is the counter-terrorism duty in the UK. There is a program called [Prevent](https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/prevent-duty-guidance/revised-prevent-duty-guidance-for-england-and-wales) that is designed to tackle radicalisation risk that could result in terrorism or non-violent extremism.\n
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Absolutely agree! I don’t have the answers to those questions\n
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Well, one context I’m already familiar with is the counter-terrorism duty in the UK. There is a program called [Prevent](https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/prevent-duty-guidance/revised-prevent-duty-guidance-for-england-and-wales) that is designed to tackle radicalisation risk that could result in terrorism or non-violent extremism.\n
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In what context?\n
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Well, one context I’m already familiar with is the counter-terrorism duty in the UK. There is a program called [Prevent](https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/prevent-duty-guidance/revised-prevent-duty-guidance-for-england-and-wales) that is designed to tackle radicalisation risk that could result in terrorism or non-violent extremism.\n
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Well, one context I’m already familiar with is the counter-terrorism duty in the UK. There is a program called [Prevent](https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/prevent-duty-guidance/revised-prevent-duty-guidance-for-england-and-wales) that is designed to tackle radicalisation risk that could result in terrorism or non-violent extremism.\n
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In what context?\n
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Absolutely agree! I don’t have the answers to those questions\n
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Well, one context I’m already familiar with is the counter-terrorism duty in the UK. There is a program called [Prevent](https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/prevent-duty-guidance/revised-prevent-duty-guidance-for-england-and-wales) that is designed to tackle radicalisation risk that could result in terrorism or non-violent extremism.\n
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