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Security

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Firewall

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      - [Free Software Foundation](https://www.fsf.org/)\n
      - [Electronic Frontier Foundation](https://www.eff.org/)\n
      - [Software Freedom Conservancy](https://sfconservancy.org/)\n
      - [It’s FOSS](https://itsfoss.com/)\n
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      - No hate speech, bigotry, etc\n
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