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    Generally speaking I agree; I like how Perens is thinking about it.\n
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    I do think it’s pretty well established that the GPL “has teeth” though. [The FSF has a list](https://wiki.fsfe.org/Migrated/GPL%20Enforcement%20Cases) of enforcement cases against fairly large defendants; it looks like their record is 2 for 2 in the US. I think it rarely comes up, just because complying with the terms of the license is so no-brainer-ly easier than trying to make the legal argument that you can use someone else’s stuff for free while thumbing your nose at the terms and conditions they want you to abide by in order to do that.\n
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      - [Free Software Foundation](https://www.fsf.org/)\n
      - [Electronic Frontier Foundation](https://www.eff.org/)\n
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