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Security

Token

There is no security token.

Firewall

main Name
Security enabled
Stateless

Configuration

Key Value
provider security.user.provider.concrete.app_user_provider
context main
entry_point App\Security\KbinAuthenticator
user_checker App\Security\UserChecker
access_denied_handler (none)
access_denied_url (none)
authenticators
[
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  "remember_me"
  "App\Security\KbinAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\FacebookAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\GoogleAuthenticator"
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  "App\Security\KeycloakAuthenticator"
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Listeners

Listener Duration Response
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0.00 ms (none)
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\ContextListener {#706
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  -sessionKey: "_security_main"
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0.74 ms (none)
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\AuthenticatorManagerListener {#584
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0.00 ms (none)
Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Http\Firewall\TwoFactorAccessListener {#582
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0.04 ms (none)
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\AccessListener {#579
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0.00 ms (none)
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\LogoutListener {#786
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0.00 ms (none)

Authenticators

No authenticators have been recorded. Check previous profiles on your authentication endpoint.

Access Decision

affirmative Strategy
# Voter class
1
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\AuthenticatedVoter"
2
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
3
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
4
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5
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6
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
7
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
8
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
9
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
10
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
11
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
12
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
13
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
14
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"

Access decision log

# Result Attributes Object
1 DENIED ROLE_USER
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ACCESS ABSTAIN
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ACCESS DENIED
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ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
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ACCESS ABSTAIN
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2 DENIED moderate
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      - [awesome-sysadmin](https://github.com/awesome-foss/awesome-sysadmin) resources\n
      - [Self-Hosted Podcast from Jupiter Broadcasting](https://selfhosted.show)\n
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    Hey fellow Selfhosters! I need some help, I think, and searching isn’t yielding what I’m hoping for.\n
    \n
    I recently built a new NAS for my network with 4x 18TB drives in a ZFS raidz1 pool. I previously have been using an external USB 12TB harddrive attached to a different machine.\n
    \n
    I’ve been attempting to use rsync to get the 12TB drive copied over to the new pool and things go great for the first 30-45 minutes. At that point, the current copy speed diminishes and 4 current files in progress sit at 100% done. Eventually, I’ve had to reboot the machine, because the zpool doesn’t appear accessible any longer. After reboot, the pool appears fine, no faults, and I can resume rsync for a while.\n
    \n
    EDIT: Of note, the rsync process seems to stall and I can’t get it to respect SIGINT or Ctrl+C. I can SSH in separately and running `zpool status` hangs with no output.\n
    \n
    While the workaround seems to be partially successful, the point of using rsync is to make it fairly hands-free and it’s been a week long process to copy the 3TB that I have now. I don’t think my zpool should be disappearing like that! Makes me nervous about the long-term viability. I don’t think I’m ready to drop down on Unraid.\n
    \n
    rsync is being initiated from the NAS to copy from the old server, am I better off “pushing” than “pulling”? I can’t imagine it’d make much difference.\n
    \n
    Could my drives be bad? How could I tell? They’re attached to a 10 port SATA card, could that be defective? How would I tell?\n
    \n
    Thanks for any help! I’ve dabbled in linux for a long time, but I’m far from proficient, so I don’t really know the intricacies of dmesg et al.
    """
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ACCESS ABSTAIN
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ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
ACCESS DENIED
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
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ACCESS ABSTAIN
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ACCESS ABSTAIN
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ACCESS ABSTAIN
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ACCESS ABSTAIN
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ACCESS ABSTAIN
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3 DENIED edit
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      \n
      Rules:\n
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      - Be civil: we’re here to support and learn from one another. Insults won’t be tolerated. Flame wars are frowned upon.\n
      - No spam posting.\n
      - Don’t duplicate the full text of your blog or github here. Just post the link for folks to click.\n
      - Submission headline should match the article title (don’t cherry-pick information from the title to fit your agenda).\n
      - No trolling.\n
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      \n
      - [awesome-selfhosted software](https://github.com/awesome-selfhosted/awesome-selfhosted)\n
      - [awesome-sysadmin](https://github.com/awesome-foss/awesome-sysadmin) resources\n
      - [Self-Hosted Podcast from Jupiter Broadcasting](https://selfhosted.show)\n
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    Hey fellow Selfhosters! I need some help, I think, and searching isn’t yielding what I’m hoping for.\n
    \n
    I recently built a new NAS for my network with 4x 18TB drives in a ZFS raidz1 pool. I previously have been using an external USB 12TB harddrive attached to a different machine.\n
    \n
    I’ve been attempting to use rsync to get the 12TB drive copied over to the new pool and things go great for the first 30-45 minutes. At that point, the current copy speed diminishes and 4 current files in progress sit at 100% done. Eventually, I’ve had to reboot the machine, because the zpool doesn’t appear accessible any longer. After reboot, the pool appears fine, no faults, and I can resume rsync for a while.\n
    \n
    EDIT: Of note, the rsync process seems to stall and I can’t get it to respect SIGINT or Ctrl+C. I can SSH in separately and running `zpool status` hangs with no output.\n
    \n
    While the workaround seems to be partially successful, the point of using rsync is to make it fairly hands-free and it’s been a week long process to copy the 3TB that I have now. I don’t think my zpool should be disappearing like that! Makes me nervous about the long-term viability. I don’t think I’m ready to drop down on Unraid.\n
    \n
    rsync is being initiated from the NAS to copy from the old server, am I better off “pushing” than “pulling”? I can’t imagine it’d make much difference.\n
    \n
    Could my drives be bad? How could I tell? They’re attached to a 10 port SATA card, could that be defective? How would I tell?\n
    \n
    Thanks for any help! I’ve dabbled in linux for a long time, but I’m far from proficient, so I don’t really know the intricacies of dmesg et al.
    """
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ACCESS ABSTAIN
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ACCESS ABSTAIN
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ACCESS DENIED
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ACCESS ABSTAIN
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ACCESS ABSTAIN
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ACCESS ABSTAIN
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ACCESS ABSTAIN
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ACCESS ABSTAIN
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ACCESS ABSTAIN
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ACCESS ABSTAIN
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ACCESS ABSTAIN
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4 DENIED moderate
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      \n
      Rules:\n
      \n
      - Be civil: we’re here to support and learn from one another. Insults won’t be tolerated. Flame wars are frowned upon.\n
      - No spam posting.\n
      - Don’t duplicate the full text of your blog or github here. Just post the link for folks to click.\n
      - Submission headline should match the article title (don’t cherry-pick information from the title to fit your agenda).\n
      - No trolling.\n
      \n
      Resources:\n
      \n
      - [awesome-selfhosted software](https://github.com/awesome-selfhosted/awesome-selfhosted)\n
      - [awesome-sysadmin](https://github.com/awesome-foss/awesome-sysadmin) resources\n
      - [Self-Hosted Podcast from Jupiter Broadcasting](https://selfhosted.show)\n
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    > kill -9\n
    \n
    Just tested, thanks for the suggestion! It killed a few instances of `rsync`, but there are two apparently stuck open. I issued `reboot` and the system seemed to hang while waiting for `rsync` to be killed and failed to unmount the zpool.\n
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    </span><span style="color:#323232;">Jan  1 12:57:19 halnas systemd[1]: Condition check resulted in Process error reports when automatic reporting is enabled (timer based) being skipped.\n
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    </span><span style="color:#323232;">Jan  1 22:59:08 halnas systemd[1]: Condition check resulted in Process error reports when automatic reporting is enabled (file watch) being skipped.\n
    </span><span style="color:#323232;">Jan  1 22:59:08 halnas systemd[1]: Condition check resulted in Process error reports when automatic reporting is enabled (timer based) being skipped.\n
    </span><span style="color:#323232;">Jan  2 02:23:18 halnas kernel: [12293.792282] gdbus[2809399]: segfault at 7ff71a8272e8 ip 00007ff7186f8045 sp 00007fffd5088de0 error 4 in libgio-2.0.so.0.7200.4[7ff718688000+111000]\n
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    </span><span style="color:#323232;">Jan  2 12:37:50 halnas kernel: [49165.218100] #PF: error_code(0x0002) - not-present page\n
    </span><span style="color:#323232;">Jan  2 19:57:53 halnas kernel: [75568.443218] unattended-upgr[4110958]: segfault at 7fc4cab112e8 ip 00007fc4c89e2045 sp 00007fffb4ae2d90 error 4 in libgio-2.0.so.0.7200.4[7fc4c8972000+111000]\n
    </span><span style="color:#323232;">Jan  3 00:54:51 halnas snapd[1367]: stateengine.go:149: state ensure error: Post "https://api.snapcraft.io/v2/snaps/refresh": net/http: request canceled while waiting for connection (Client.Timeout exceeded while awaiting headers)\n
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      I recently built a new NAS for my network with 4x 18TB drives in a ZFS raidz1 pool. I previously have been using an external USB 12TB harddrive attached to a different machine.\n
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    > kill -9\n
    \n
    Just tested, thanks for the suggestion! It killed a few instances of `rsync`, but there are two apparently stuck open. I issued `reboot` and the system seemed to hang while waiting for `rsync` to be killed and failed to unmount the zpool.\n
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    </span><span style="color:#323232;">Jan  1 12:57:19 halnas systemd[1]: Condition check resulted in Process error reports when automatic reporting is enabled (timer based) being skipped.\n
    </span><span style="color:#323232;">Jan  1 12:57:19 halnas kernel: [    1.119609] pcieport 0000:00:1b.0: DPC: error containment capabilities: Int Msg #0, RPExt+ PoisonedTLP+ SwTrigger+ RP PIO Log 4, DL_ActiveErr+\n
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    </span><span style="color:#323232;">Jan  1 22:59:08 halnas systemd[1]: Condition check resulted in Process error reports when automatic reporting is enabled (file watch) being skipped.\n
    </span><span style="color:#323232;">Jan  1 22:59:08 halnas systemd[1]: Condition check resulted in Process error reports when automatic reporting is enabled (timer based) being skipped.\n
    </span><span style="color:#323232;">Jan  2 02:23:18 halnas kernel: [12293.792282] gdbus[2809399]: segfault at 7ff71a8272e8 ip 00007ff7186f8045 sp 00007fffd5088de0 error 4 in libgio-2.0.so.0.7200.4[7ff718688000+111000]\n
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      I recently built a new NAS for my network with 4x 18TB drives in a ZFS raidz1 pool. I previously have been using an external USB 12TB harddrive attached to a different machine.\n
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    > kill -9\n
    \n
    Just tested, thanks for the suggestion! It killed a few instances of `rsync`, but there are two apparently stuck open. I issued `reboot` and the system seemed to hang while waiting for `rsync` to be killed and failed to unmount the zpool.\n
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    </span><span style="color:#323232;">Jan  1 12:57:19 halnas systemd[1]: Condition check resulted in Process error reports when automatic reporting is enabled (file watch) being skipped.\n
    </span><span style="color:#323232;">Jan  1 12:57:19 halnas systemd[1]: Condition check resulted in Process error reports when automatic reporting is enabled (timer based) being skipped.\n
    </span><span style="color:#323232;">Jan  1 12:57:19 halnas kernel: [    1.119609] pcieport 0000:00:1b.0: DPC: error containment capabilities: Int Msg #0, RPExt+ PoisonedTLP+ SwTrigger+ RP PIO Log 4, DL_ActiveErr+\n
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    </span><span style="color:#323232;">Jan  1 22:59:08 halnas kernel: [    1.119415] pcieport 0000:00:1b.0: DPC: error containment capabilities: Int Msg #0, RPExt+ PoisonedTLP+ SwTrigger+ RP PIO Log 4, DL_ActiveErr+\n
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    </span><span style="color:#323232;">Jan  2 02:23:18 halnas kernel: [12293.792282] gdbus[2809399]: segfault at 7ff71a8272e8 ip 00007ff7186f8045 sp 00007fffd5088de0 error 4 in libgio-2.0.so.0.7200.4[7ff718688000+111000]\n
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    </span><span style="color:#323232;">Jan  2 07:07:53 halnas kernel: [29368.241593] unattended-upgr[4109637]: segfault at 7f73f756c2e8 ip 00007f73f543d045 sp 00007ffc61f04ea0 error 4 in libgio-2.0.so.0.7200.4[7f73f53cd000+111000]\n
    </span><span style="color:#323232;">Jan  2 09:12:52 halnas kernel: [36867.632220] pool-fwupdmgr[4109819]: segfault at 7fcf244832e8 ip 00007fcf22354045 sp 00007fcf1dc00770 error 4 in libgio-2.0.so.0.7200.4[7fcf222e4000+111000]\n
    </span><span style="color:#323232;">Jan  2 12:37:50 halnas kernel: [49165.218100] #PF: error_code(0x0002) - not-present page\n
    </span><span style="color:#323232;">Jan  2 19:57:53 halnas kernel: [75568.443218] unattended-upgr[4110958]: segfault at 7fc4cab112e8 ip 00007fc4c89e2045 sp 00007fffb4ae2d90 error 4 in libgio-2.0.so.0.7200.4[7fc4c8972000+111000]\n
    </span><span style="color:#323232;">Jan  3 00:54:51 halnas snapd[1367]: stateengine.go:149: state ensure error: Post "https://api.snapcraft.io/v2/snaps/refresh": net/http: request canceled while waiting for connection (Client.Timeout exceeded while awaiting headers)\n
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      Awesome, thanks for giving some clues. It’s a new build, but I didn’t focus hugely on RAM, I think it’s only 32GB. I’ll try this out.\n
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    Based on this [thread](https://serverfault.com/questions/569354/freenas-do-i-need-1gb-per-tb-of-usable-storage-or-1gb-of-memory-per-tb-of-phys) it’s the deduplication that requires a lot of RAM.\n
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      I recently built a new NAS for my network with 4x 18TB drives in a ZFS raidz1 pool. I previously have been using an external USB 12TB harddrive attached to a different machine.\n
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      Could my drives be bad? How could I tell? They’re attached to a 10 port SATA card, could that be defective? How would I tell?\n
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        Awesome, thanks for giving some clues. It’s a new build, but I didn’t focus hugely on RAM, I think it’s only 32GB. I’ll try this out.\n
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      Based on this [thread](https://serverfault.com/questions/569354/freenas-do-i-need-1gb-per-tb-of-usable-storage-or-1gb-of-memory-per-tb-of-phys) it’s the deduplication that requires a lot of RAM.\n
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      Edit2: here’s a guide to check whether your system is limited by zfs’ memory consumption: [github.com/openzfs/zfs/issues/10251](https://github.com/openzfs/zfs/issues/10251)
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      I recently built a new NAS for my network with 4x 18TB drives in a ZFS raidz1 pool. I previously have been using an external USB 12TB harddrive attached to a different machine.\n
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          I don’t have practical experience with ZFS, but my understanding is that it uses RAM a lot… if that’s new, it might be worth checking the RAM by booting up memtest (for example) and just ruling that out.\n
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        Awesome, thanks for giving some clues. It’s a new build, but I didn’t focus hugely on RAM, I think it’s only 32GB. I’ll try this out.\n
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      Based on this [thread](https://serverfault.com/questions/569354/freenas-do-i-need-1gb-per-tb-of-usable-storage-or-1gb-of-memory-per-tb-of-phys) it’s the deduplication that requires a lot of RAM.\n
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      Based on this [thread](https://serverfault.com/questions/569354/freenas-do-i-need-1gb-per-tb-of-usable-storage-or-1gb-of-memory-per-tb-of-phys) it’s the deduplication that requires a lot of RAM.\n
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          I don’t have practical experience with ZFS, but my understanding is that it uses RAM a lot… if that’s new, it might be worth checking the RAM by booting up memtest (for example) and just ruling that out.\n
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        Awesome, thanks for giving some clues. It’s a new build, but I didn’t focus hugely on RAM, I think it’s only 32GB. I’ll try this out.\n
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      Based on this [thread](https://serverfault.com/questions/569354/freenas-do-i-need-1gb-per-tb-of-usable-storage-or-1gb-of-memory-per-tb-of-phys) it’s the deduplication that requires a lot of RAM.\n
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        Awesome, thanks for giving some clues. It’s a new build, but I didn’t focus hugely on RAM, I think it’s only 32GB. I’ll try this out.\n
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      Based on this [thread](https://serverfault.com/questions/569354/freenas-do-i-need-1gb-per-tb-of-usable-storage-or-1gb-of-memory-per-tb-of-phys) it’s the deduplication that requires a lot of RAM.\n
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          I don’t have practical experience with ZFS, but my understanding is that it uses RAM a lot… if that’s new, it might be worth checking the RAM by booting up memtest (for example) and just ruling that out.\n
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        Awesome, thanks for giving some clues. It’s a new build, but I didn’t focus hugely on RAM, I think it’s only 32GB. I’ll try this out.\n
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      Based on this [thread](https://serverfault.com/questions/569354/freenas-do-i-need-1gb-per-tb-of-usable-storage-or-1gb-of-memory-per-tb-of-phys) it’s the deduplication that requires a lot of RAM.\n
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      Edit2: here’s a guide to check whether your system is limited by zfs’ memory consumption: [github.com/openzfs/zfs/issues/10251](https://github.com/openzfs/zfs/issues/10251)
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