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        Hope these kinds of questions are allowed here. On this occasion I’m just looking for a straight answer.\n
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        For a university course I need to install ROS - software for doing robotics stuff. Specifically, I need ROS 1 - which is no longer being updated, as ROS 2 is now the focus. The installation instructions are here: [wiki.ros.org/Installation/Ubuntu](https://wiki.ros.org/Installation/Ubuntu)\n
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        The instructions from the course material say that only Ubuntu 18 would work, though [the ROS wiki says Ubuntu 20.04 is the target](https://wiki.ros.org/noetic). Either way, it doesn’t seem to be available for Ubuntu 22.04 and therefore Linux Mint 21, which is what I’m running.\n
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        The course instructions generally gives 3 options:\n
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        3. Install on a real Ubuntu 18 system\n
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        Right now I’m going to use VirtualBox to get started, but I’d really prefer to run it natively and I’m worried about performance. Is there a simple way to download and run software intended for Ubuntu 20.04 on Linux Mint 21.3?\n
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        Edit: thank you all for the great suggestions! I got stuck on an unrelated problem (ran out of storage space) but I’m sure your suggestions will work once I fix that. Forgive me for not replying individually, you’re all awesome and I don’t have anything to add other than “thank you” :)
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        I don’t have much to comment on native installs that hasn’t already been said, but if you go with a VM, please don’t use VirtualBox. It’s a pile of hot garbage that pales in comparison to the already existing, kernel-level virtualization offered by KVM/QEMU. Use a package like `virt-manager` for KVM/QEMU based VMs and your experience and performance will be infinitely better. The Linux kernel has KVM built in for a reason, so take advantage of that.\n
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        Hope these kinds of questions are allowed here. On this occasion I’m just looking for a straight answer.\n
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        For a university course I need to install ROS - software for doing robotics stuff. Specifically, I need ROS 1 - which is no longer being updated, as ROS 2 is now the focus. The installation instructions are here: [wiki.ros.org/Installation/Ubuntu](https://wiki.ros.org/Installation/Ubuntu)\n
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        Edit: thank you all for the great suggestions! I got stuck on an unrelated problem (ran out of storage space) but I’m sure your suggestions will work once I fix that. Forgive me for not replying individually, you’re all awesome and I don’t have anything to add other than “thank you” :)
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        I don’t have much to comment on native installs that hasn’t already been said, but if you go with a VM, please don’t use VirtualBox. It’s a pile of hot garbage that pales in comparison to the already existing, kernel-level virtualization offered by KVM/QEMU. Use a package like `virt-manager` for KVM/QEMU based VMs and your experience and performance will be infinitely better. The Linux kernel has KVM built in for a reason, so take advantage of that.\n
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        Hope these kinds of questions are allowed here. On this occasion I’m just looking for a straight answer.\n
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        For a university course I need to install ROS - software for doing robotics stuff. Specifically, I need ROS 1 - which is no longer being updated, as ROS 2 is now the focus. The installation instructions are here: [wiki.ros.org/Installation/Ubuntu](https://wiki.ros.org/Installation/Ubuntu)\n
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        The instructions from the course material say that only Ubuntu 18 would work, though [the ROS wiki says Ubuntu 20.04 is the target](https://wiki.ros.org/noetic). Either way, it doesn’t seem to be available for Ubuntu 22.04 and therefore Linux Mint 21, which is what I’m running.\n
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        Edit: thank you all for the great suggestions! I got stuck on an unrelated problem (ran out of storage space) but I’m sure your suggestions will work once I fix that. Forgive me for not replying individually, you’re all awesome and I don’t have anything to add other than “thank you” :)
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        I don’t have much to comment on native installs that hasn’t already been said, but if you go with a VM, please don’t use VirtualBox. It’s a pile of hot garbage that pales in comparison to the already existing, kernel-level virtualization offered by KVM/QEMU. Use a package like `virt-manager` for KVM/QEMU based VMs and your experience and performance will be infinitely better. The Linux kernel has KVM built in for a reason, so take advantage of that.\n
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        Hope these kinds of questions are allowed here. On this occasion I’m just looking for a straight answer.\n
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        For a university course I need to install ROS - software for doing robotics stuff. Specifically, I need ROS 1 - which is no longer being updated, as ROS 2 is now the focus. The installation instructions are here: [wiki.ros.org/Installation/Ubuntu](https://wiki.ros.org/Installation/Ubuntu)\n
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        Edit: thank you all for the great suggestions! I got stuck on an unrelated problem (ran out of storage space) but I’m sure your suggestions will work once I fix that. Forgive me for not replying individually, you’re all awesome and I don’t have anything to add other than “thank you” :)
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        I don’t have much to comment on native installs that hasn’t already been said, but if you go with a VM, please don’t use VirtualBox. It’s a pile of hot garbage that pales in comparison to the already existing, kernel-level virtualization offered by KVM/QEMU. Use a package like `virt-manager` for KVM/QEMU based VMs and your experience and performance will be infinitely better. The Linux kernel has KVM built in for a reason, so take advantage of that.\n
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        Hope these kinds of questions are allowed here. On this occasion I’m just looking for a straight answer.\n
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        \n
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