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Components

22 Twig Components
206 Render Count
908 ms Render Time
16.0 MiB Memory Usage

Components

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components/user_inline.html.twig
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date
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components/date.html.twig
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date_edited
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components/date_edited.html.twig
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user_avatar
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components/user_avatar.html.twig
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vote
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components/vote.html.twig
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magazine_inline
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entry_inline
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user_settings_row_switch
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components/_settings_row_enum.html.twig
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featured_magazines
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          A place to discuss privacy and freedom in the digital world.\n
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          Privacy has become a very important issue in modern society, with companies and governments constantly abusing their power, more and more people are waking up to the importance of digital privacy.\n
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          - Posting a link to a website containing tracking isn’t great, if contents of the website are behind a paywall maybe copy them into the post\n
          - Don’t promote proprietary software\n
          - Try to keep things on topic\n
          - If you have a question, please try searching for previous discussions, maybe it has already been answered\n
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          - Be nice :)\n
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          ### Related communities\n
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          - [Lemmy.ml libre_culture](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_culture)\n
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          - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
          - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
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          ### Chat rooms\n
          \n
          - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
          - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
          \n
          much thanks to @gary_host_laptop for the logo design :)
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        > On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat. Unmentioned by Whittaker, this budget shortfall results in large part due to the US intelligence community, which lavishly financed Signal’s creation and maintenance over several years, severing its support for the app.\n
        > \n
        > Never acknowledged in any serious way by the mainstream media, Signal’s origins as a US government asset are a matter of extensive public record, even if the scope and scale of the funding provided has until now been secret. The app, brainchild of shadowy tech guru ‘Moxie Marlinspike’ (real name Matthew Rosenfeld), was launched in 2013 by his now-defunct Open Whisper Systems (OWS). The company never published financial statements or disclosed the identities of its funders at any point during its operation.\n
        > \n
        > Sums involved in developing, launching and running a messaging app used by countless people globally were nonetheless surely significant. The newly-published financial records indicate Signal’s operating costs for 2023 alone are $40 million, and projected to rise to $50 million by 2025. Rosenfeld boasted in 2018 that OWS “never [took] VC funding or sought investment” at any point, although mysteriously failed to mention millions were provided by Open Technology Fund (OTF).\n
        > \n
        > OTF was launched in 2012 as a pilot program of Radio Free Asia (RFA), an asset of US Agency for Global Media (USAGM), which is funded by US Congress to the tune of over $1 billion annually. In August 2018, its then-CEO openly acknowledged the Agency’s “global priorities…reflect US national security and public diplomacy interests.”\n
        > \n
        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
        \n
        Archive links:\n
        \n
        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
        - [ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV](https://ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV)
        """
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          \n
          - [Lemmy.ml libre_culture](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_culture)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
          - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
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          ### Chat rooms\n
          \n
          - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
          - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
          \n
          much thanks to @gary_host_laptop for the logo design :)
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        > On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat. Unmentioned by Whittaker, this budget shortfall results in large part due to the US intelligence community, which lavishly financed Signal’s creation and maintenance over several years, severing its support for the app.\n
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        > \n
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        > \n
        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
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        Archive links:\n
        \n
        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
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      > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
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      Archive links:\n
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      - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
      - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
      - [ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV](https://ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV)
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      > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
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          - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
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          - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
          - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
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        > On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat. Unmentioned by Whittaker, this budget shortfall results in large part due to the US intelligence community, which lavishly financed Signal’s creation and maintenance over several years, severing its support for the app.\n
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        > Sums involved in developing, launching and running a messaging app used by countless people globally were nonetheless surely significant. The newly-published financial records indicate Signal’s operating costs for 2023 alone are $40 million, and projected to rise to $50 million by 2025. Rosenfeld boasted in 2018 that OWS “never [took] VC funding or sought investment” at any point, although mysteriously failed to mention millions were provided by Open Technology Fund (OTF).\n
        > \n
        > OTF was launched in 2012 as a pilot program of Radio Free Asia (RFA), an asset of US Agency for Global Media (USAGM), which is funded by US Congress to the tune of over $1 billion annually. In August 2018, its then-CEO openly acknowledged the Agency’s “global priorities…reflect US national security and public diplomacy interests.”\n
        > \n
        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
        \n
        Archive links:\n
        \n
        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
        - [ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV](https://ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV)
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          - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
          - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
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          ### Chat rooms\n
          \n
          - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
          - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
          \n
          much thanks to @gary_host_laptop for the logo design :)
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        > On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat. Unmentioned by Whittaker, this budget shortfall results in large part due to the US intelligence community, which lavishly financed Signal’s creation and maintenance over several years, severing its support for the app.\n
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        > Never acknowledged in any serious way by the mainstream media, Signal’s origins as a US government asset are a matter of extensive public record, even if the scope and scale of the funding provided has until now been secret. The app, brainchild of shadowy tech guru ‘Moxie Marlinspike’ (real name Matthew Rosenfeld), was launched in 2013 by his now-defunct Open Whisper Systems (OWS). The company never published financial statements or disclosed the identities of its funders at any point during its operation.\n
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        > Sums involved in developing, launching and running a messaging app used by countless people globally were nonetheless surely significant. The newly-published financial records indicate Signal’s operating costs for 2023 alone are $40 million, and projected to rise to $50 million by 2025. Rosenfeld boasted in 2018 that OWS “never [took] VC funding or sought investment” at any point, although mysteriously failed to mention millions were provided by Open Technology Fund (OTF).\n
        > \n
        > OTF was launched in 2012 as a pilot program of Radio Free Asia (RFA), an asset of US Agency for Global Media (USAGM), which is funded by US Congress to the tune of over $1 billion annually. In August 2018, its then-CEO openly acknowledged the Agency’s “global priorities…reflect US national security and public diplomacy interests.”\n
        > \n
        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
        \n
        Archive links:\n
        \n
        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
        - [ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV](https://ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV)
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              - During most of it’s initial conception phase it was US gov funded\n
              - therefore some of the characteristics its users still suffer today (like reliance on strong selectors, pinky-promise of non-retaining metadata, centralized architecture based on the same “cloud” as the one of the CIA and other decisions hostile to free/libre software users and ethics) originate from that era.
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          “**Between 2013 and 2016**, Open Whisper Systems **received grants from** the Shuttleworth Foundation,[49] the Knight Foundation,[50] and **the Open Technology Fund.**[51]”\n
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          “Marlinspike launched Open Whisper Systems’ website in January 2013.[2][1]”\n
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          (from the page you linked)\n
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          How is that not the OTF (100% funded by Radio Free Asia) since its inception? how is it not its initial conception phase?
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        well before 2013 it wasnt “Signal” but some proprietary software. After 2016 it wasn’t anymore “the initial phase”\n
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        > Never acknowledged in any serious way by the mainstream media, Signal’s origins as a US government asset are a matter of extensive public record, even if the scope and scale of the funding provided has until now been secret. The app, brainchild of shadowy tech guru ‘Moxie Marlinspike’ (real name Matthew Rosenfeld), was launched in 2013 by his now-defunct Open Whisper Systems (OWS). The company never published financial statements or disclosed the identities of its funders at any point during its operation.\n
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        > Sums involved in developing, launching and running a messaging app used by countless people globally were nonetheless surely significant. The newly-published financial records indicate Signal’s operating costs for 2023 alone are $40 million, and projected to rise to $50 million by 2025. Rosenfeld boasted in 2018 that OWS “never [took] VC funding or sought investment” at any point, although mysteriously failed to mention millions were provided by Open Technology Fund (OTF).\n
        > \n
        > OTF was launched in 2012 as a pilot program of Radio Free Asia (RFA), an asset of US Agency for Global Media (USAGM), which is funded by US Congress to the tune of over $1 billion annually. In August 2018, its then-CEO openly acknowledged the Agency’s “global priorities…reflect US national security and public diplomacy interests.”\n
        > \n
        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
        \n
        Archive links:\n
        \n
        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
        - [ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV](https://ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV)
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          - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
          - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
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          ### Chat rooms\n
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          - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
          \n
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        > On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat. Unmentioned by Whittaker, this budget shortfall results in large part due to the US intelligence community, which lavishly financed Signal’s creation and maintenance over several years, severing its support for the app.\n
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        > Never acknowledged in any serious way by the mainstream media, Signal’s origins as a US government asset are a matter of extensive public record, even if the scope and scale of the funding provided has until now been secret. The app, brainchild of shadowy tech guru ‘Moxie Marlinspike’ (real name Matthew Rosenfeld), was launched in 2013 by his now-defunct Open Whisper Systems (OWS). The company never published financial statements or disclosed the identities of its funders at any point during its operation.\n
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        > Sums involved in developing, launching and running a messaging app used by countless people globally were nonetheless surely significant. The newly-published financial records indicate Signal’s operating costs for 2023 alone are $40 million, and projected to rise to $50 million by 2025. Rosenfeld boasted in 2018 that OWS “never [took] VC funding or sought investment” at any point, although mysteriously failed to mention millions were provided by Open Technology Fund (OTF).\n
        > \n
        > OTF was launched in 2012 as a pilot program of Radio Free Asia (RFA), an asset of US Agency for Global Media (USAGM), which is funded by US Congress to the tune of over $1 billion annually. In August 2018, its then-CEO openly acknowledged the Agency’s “global priorities…reflect US national security and public diplomacy interests.”\n
        > \n
        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
        \n
        Archive links:\n
        \n
        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
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          ### Related communities\n
          \n
          - [Lemmy.ml libre_culture](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_culture)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
          - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
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          ### Chat rooms\n
          \n
          - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
          - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
          \n
          much thanks to @gary_host_laptop for the logo design :)
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        > On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat. Unmentioned by Whittaker, this budget shortfall results in large part due to the US intelligence community, which lavishly financed Signal’s creation and maintenance over several years, severing its support for the app.\n
        > \n
        > Never acknowledged in any serious way by the mainstream media, Signal’s origins as a US government asset are a matter of extensive public record, even if the scope and scale of the funding provided has until now been secret. The app, brainchild of shadowy tech guru ‘Moxie Marlinspike’ (real name Matthew Rosenfeld), was launched in 2013 by his now-defunct Open Whisper Systems (OWS). The company never published financial statements or disclosed the identities of its funders at any point during its operation.\n
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        > Sums involved in developing, launching and running a messaging app used by countless people globally were nonetheless surely significant. The newly-published financial records indicate Signal’s operating costs for 2023 alone are $40 million, and projected to rise to $50 million by 2025. Rosenfeld boasted in 2018 that OWS “never [took] VC funding or sought investment” at any point, although mysteriously failed to mention millions were provided by Open Technology Fund (OTF).\n
        > \n
        > OTF was launched in 2012 as a pilot program of Radio Free Asia (RFA), an asset of US Agency for Global Media (USAGM), which is funded by US Congress to the tune of over $1 billion annually. In August 2018, its then-CEO openly acknowledged the Agency’s “global priorities…reflect US national security and public diplomacy interests.”\n
        > \n
        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
        \n
        Archive links:\n
        \n
        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
        - [ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV](https://ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV)
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          - [Lemmy.ml libre_culture](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_culture)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
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        > On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat. Unmentioned by Whittaker, this budget shortfall results in large part due to the US intelligence community, which lavishly financed Signal’s creation and maintenance over several years, severing its support for the app.\n
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        > Never acknowledged in any serious way by the mainstream media, Signal’s origins as a US government asset are a matter of extensive public record, even if the scope and scale of the funding provided has until now been secret. The app, brainchild of shadowy tech guru ‘Moxie Marlinspike’ (real name Matthew Rosenfeld), was launched in 2013 by his now-defunct Open Whisper Systems (OWS). The company never published financial statements or disclosed the identities of its funders at any point during its operation.\n
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        > Sums involved in developing, launching and running a messaging app used by countless people globally were nonetheless surely significant. The newly-published financial records indicate Signal’s operating costs for 2023 alone are $40 million, and projected to rise to $50 million by 2025. Rosenfeld boasted in 2018 that OWS “never [took] VC funding or sought investment” at any point, although mysteriously failed to mention millions were provided by Open Technology Fund (OTF).\n
        > \n
        > OTF was launched in 2012 as a pilot program of Radio Free Asia (RFA), an asset of US Agency for Global Media (USAGM), which is funded by US Congress to the tune of over $1 billion annually. In August 2018, its then-CEO openly acknowledged the Agency’s “global priorities…reflect US national security and public diplomacy interests.”\n
        > \n
        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
        \n
        Archive links:\n
        \n
        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
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        > On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat. Unmentioned by Whittaker, this budget shortfall results in large part due to the US intelligence community, which lavishly financed Signal’s creation and maintenance over several years, severing its support for the app.\n
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        > Never acknowledged in any serious way by the mainstream media, Signal’s origins as a US government asset are a matter of extensive public record, even if the scope and scale of the funding provided has until now been secret. The app, brainchild of shadowy tech guru ‘Moxie Marlinspike’ (real name Matthew Rosenfeld), was launched in 2013 by his now-defunct Open Whisper Systems (OWS). The company never published financial statements or disclosed the identities of its funders at any point during its operation.\n
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        > Sums involved in developing, launching and running a messaging app used by countless people globally were nonetheless surely significant. The newly-published financial records indicate Signal’s operating costs for 2023 alone are $40 million, and projected to rise to $50 million by 2025. Rosenfeld boasted in 2018 that OWS “never [took] VC funding or sought investment” at any point, although mysteriously failed to mention millions were provided by Open Technology Fund (OTF).\n
        > \n
        > OTF was launched in 2012 as a pilot program of Radio Free Asia (RFA), an asset of US Agency for Global Media (USAGM), which is funded by US Congress to the tune of over $1 billion annually. In August 2018, its then-CEO openly acknowledged the Agency’s “global priorities…reflect US national security and public diplomacy interests.”\n
        > \n
        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
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        Archive links:\n
        \n
        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
        - [ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV](https://ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV)
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          - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
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        > On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat. Unmentioned by Whittaker, this budget shortfall results in large part due to the US intelligence community, which lavishly financed Signal’s creation and maintenance over several years, severing its support for the app.\n
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        > Never acknowledged in any serious way by the mainstream media, Signal’s origins as a US government asset are a matter of extensive public record, even if the scope and scale of the funding provided has until now been secret. The app, brainchild of shadowy tech guru ‘Moxie Marlinspike’ (real name Matthew Rosenfeld), was launched in 2013 by his now-defunct Open Whisper Systems (OWS). The company never published financial statements or disclosed the identities of its funders at any point during its operation.\n
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        > Sums involved in developing, launching and running a messaging app used by countless people globally were nonetheless surely significant. The newly-published financial records indicate Signal’s operating costs for 2023 alone are $40 million, and projected to rise to $50 million by 2025. Rosenfeld boasted in 2018 that OWS “never [took] VC funding or sought investment” at any point, although mysteriously failed to mention millions were provided by Open Technology Fund (OTF).\n
        > \n
        > OTF was launched in 2012 as a pilot program of Radio Free Asia (RFA), an asset of US Agency for Global Media (USAGM), which is funded by US Congress to the tune of over $1 billion annually. In August 2018, its then-CEO openly acknowledged the Agency’s “global priorities…reflect US national security and public diplomacy interests.”\n
        > \n
        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
        \n
        Archive links:\n
        \n
        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
        - [ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV](https://ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV)
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          ### Related communities\n
          \n
          - [Lemmy.ml libre_culture](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_culture)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
          - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
          \n
          ### Chat rooms\n
          \n
          - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
          - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
          \n
          much thanks to @gary_host_laptop for the logo design :)
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        > On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat. Unmentioned by Whittaker, this budget shortfall results in large part due to the US intelligence community, which lavishly financed Signal’s creation and maintenance over several years, severing its support for the app.\n
        > \n
        > Never acknowledged in any serious way by the mainstream media, Signal’s origins as a US government asset are a matter of extensive public record, even if the scope and scale of the funding provided has until now been secret. The app, brainchild of shadowy tech guru ‘Moxie Marlinspike’ (real name Matthew Rosenfeld), was launched in 2013 by his now-defunct Open Whisper Systems (OWS). The company never published financial statements or disclosed the identities of its funders at any point during its operation.\n
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        > Sums involved in developing, launching and running a messaging app used by countless people globally were nonetheless surely significant. The newly-published financial records indicate Signal’s operating costs for 2023 alone are $40 million, and projected to rise to $50 million by 2025. Rosenfeld boasted in 2018 that OWS “never [took] VC funding or sought investment” at any point, although mysteriously failed to mention millions were provided by Open Technology Fund (OTF).\n
        > \n
        > OTF was launched in 2012 as a pilot program of Radio Free Asia (RFA), an asset of US Agency for Global Media (USAGM), which is funded by US Congress to the tune of over $1 billion annually. In August 2018, its then-CEO openly acknowledged the Agency’s “global priorities…reflect US national security and public diplomacy interests.”\n
        > \n
        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
        \n
        Archive links:\n
        \n
        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
        - [ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV](https://ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV)
        """
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          - [Lemmy.ml libre_culture](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_culture)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
          - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
          \n
          ### Chat rooms\n
          \n
          - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
          - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
          \n
          much thanks to @gary_host_laptop for the logo design :)
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        > On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat. Unmentioned by Whittaker, this budget shortfall results in large part due to the US intelligence community, which lavishly financed Signal’s creation and maintenance over several years, severing its support for the app.\n
        > \n
        > Never acknowledged in any serious way by the mainstream media, Signal’s origins as a US government asset are a matter of extensive public record, even if the scope and scale of the funding provided has until now been secret. The app, brainchild of shadowy tech guru ‘Moxie Marlinspike’ (real name Matthew Rosenfeld), was launched in 2013 by his now-defunct Open Whisper Systems (OWS). The company never published financial statements or disclosed the identities of its funders at any point during its operation.\n
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        > Sums involved in developing, launching and running a messaging app used by countless people globally were nonetheless surely significant. The newly-published financial records indicate Signal’s operating costs for 2023 alone are $40 million, and projected to rise to $50 million by 2025. Rosenfeld boasted in 2018 that OWS “never [took] VC funding or sought investment” at any point, although mysteriously failed to mention millions were provided by Open Technology Fund (OTF).\n
        > \n
        > OTF was launched in 2012 as a pilot program of Radio Free Asia (RFA), an asset of US Agency for Global Media (USAGM), which is funded by US Congress to the tune of over $1 billion annually. In August 2018, its then-CEO openly acknowledged the Agency’s “global priorities…reflect US national security and public diplomacy interests.”\n
        > \n
        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
        \n
        Archive links:\n
        \n
        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
        - [ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV](https://ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV)
        """
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      yet it’s fair to say that:\n
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          ### Related communities\n
          \n
          - [Lemmy.ml libre_culture](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_culture)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
          - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
          \n
          ### Chat rooms\n
          \n
          - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
          - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
          \n
          much thanks to @gary_host_laptop for the logo design :)
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        > On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat. Unmentioned by Whittaker, this budget shortfall results in large part due to the US intelligence community, which lavishly financed Signal’s creation and maintenance over several years, severing its support for the app.\n
        > \n
        > Never acknowledged in any serious way by the mainstream media, Signal’s origins as a US government asset are a matter of extensive public record, even if the scope and scale of the funding provided has until now been secret. The app, brainchild of shadowy tech guru ‘Moxie Marlinspike’ (real name Matthew Rosenfeld), was launched in 2013 by his now-defunct Open Whisper Systems (OWS). The company never published financial statements or disclosed the identities of its funders at any point during its operation.\n
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        > Sums involved in developing, launching and running a messaging app used by countless people globally were nonetheless surely significant. The newly-published financial records indicate Signal’s operating costs for 2023 alone are $40 million, and projected to rise to $50 million by 2025. Rosenfeld boasted in 2018 that OWS “never [took] VC funding or sought investment” at any point, although mysteriously failed to mention millions were provided by Open Technology Fund (OTF).\n
        > \n
        > OTF was launched in 2012 as a pilot program of Radio Free Asia (RFA), an asset of US Agency for Global Media (USAGM), which is funded by US Congress to the tune of over $1 billion annually. In August 2018, its then-CEO openly acknowledged the Agency’s “global priorities…reflect US national security and public diplomacy interests.”\n
        > \n
        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
        \n
        Archive links:\n
        \n
        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
        - [ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV](https://ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV)
        """
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          \n
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          - Try to keep things on topic\n
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          - Be nice :)\n
          \n
          ### Related communities\n
          \n
          - [Lemmy.ml libre_culture](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_culture)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
          - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
          \n
          ### Chat rooms\n
          \n
          - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
          - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
          \n
          much thanks to @gary_host_laptop for the logo design :)
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        > On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat. Unmentioned by Whittaker, this budget shortfall results in large part due to the US intelligence community, which lavishly financed Signal’s creation and maintenance over several years, severing its support for the app.\n
        > \n
        > Never acknowledged in any serious way by the mainstream media, Signal’s origins as a US government asset are a matter of extensive public record, even if the scope and scale of the funding provided has until now been secret. The app, brainchild of shadowy tech guru ‘Moxie Marlinspike’ (real name Matthew Rosenfeld), was launched in 2013 by his now-defunct Open Whisper Systems (OWS). The company never published financial statements or disclosed the identities of its funders at any point during its operation.\n
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        > Sums involved in developing, launching and running a messaging app used by countless people globally were nonetheless surely significant. The newly-published financial records indicate Signal’s operating costs for 2023 alone are $40 million, and projected to rise to $50 million by 2025. Rosenfeld boasted in 2018 that OWS “never [took] VC funding or sought investment” at any point, although mysteriously failed to mention millions were provided by Open Technology Fund (OTF).\n
        > \n
        > OTF was launched in 2012 as a pilot program of Radio Free Asia (RFA), an asset of US Agency for Global Media (USAGM), which is funded by US Congress to the tune of over $1 billion annually. In August 2018, its then-CEO openly acknowledged the Agency’s “global priorities…reflect US national security and public diplomacy interests.”\n
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        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
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        Archive links:\n
        \n
        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
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          ============================================================\n
          \n
          Privacy has become a very important issue in modern society, with companies and governments constantly abusing their power, more and more people are waking up to the importance of digital privacy.\n
          \n
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          \n
          ### Some Rules\n
          \n
          - Posting a link to a website containing tracking isn’t great, if contents of the website are behind a paywall maybe copy them into the post\n
          - Don’t promote proprietary software\n
          - Try to keep things on topic\n
          - If you have a question, please try searching for previous discussions, maybe it has already been answered\n
          - Reposts are fine, but should have at least a couple of weeks in between so that the post can reach a new audience\n
          - Be nice :)\n
          \n
          ### Related communities\n
          \n
          - [Lemmy.ml libre_culture](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_culture)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
          - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
          \n
          ### Chat rooms\n
          \n
          - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
          - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
          \n
          much thanks to @gary_host_laptop for the logo design :)
          """
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      +slug: "Signal-Facing-Collapse-After-CIA-Cuts-Funding"
      +title: "Signal Facing Collapse After CIA Cuts Funding"
      +url: "https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia"
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        > On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat. Unmentioned by Whittaker, this budget shortfall results in large part due to the US intelligence community, which lavishly financed Signal’s creation and maintenance over several years, severing its support for the app.\n
        > \n
        > Never acknowledged in any serious way by the mainstream media, Signal’s origins as a US government asset are a matter of extensive public record, even if the scope and scale of the funding provided has until now been secret. The app, brainchild of shadowy tech guru ‘Moxie Marlinspike’ (real name Matthew Rosenfeld), was launched in 2013 by his now-defunct Open Whisper Systems (OWS). The company never published financial statements or disclosed the identities of its funders at any point during its operation.\n
        > \n
        > Sums involved in developing, launching and running a messaging app used by countless people globally were nonetheless surely significant. The newly-published financial records indicate Signal’s operating costs for 2023 alone are $40 million, and projected to rise to $50 million by 2025. Rosenfeld boasted in 2018 that OWS “never [took] VC funding or sought investment” at any point, although mysteriously failed to mention millions were provided by Open Technology Fund (OTF).\n
        > \n
        > OTF was launched in 2012 as a pilot program of Radio Free Asia (RFA), an asset of US Agency for Global Media (USAGM), which is funded by US Congress to the tune of over $1 billion annually. In August 2018, its then-CEO openly acknowledged the Agency’s “global priorities…reflect US national security and public diplomacy interests.”\n
        > \n
        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
        \n
        Archive links:\n
        \n
        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
        - [ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV](https://ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV)
        """
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          ### Related communities\n
          \n
          - [Lemmy.ml libre_culture](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_culture)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
          - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
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          ### Chat rooms\n
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          - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
          - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
          \n
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        > On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat. Unmentioned by Whittaker, this budget shortfall results in large part due to the US intelligence community, which lavishly financed Signal’s creation and maintenance over several years, severing its support for the app.\n
        > \n
        > Never acknowledged in any serious way by the mainstream media, Signal’s origins as a US government asset are a matter of extensive public record, even if the scope and scale of the funding provided has until now been secret. The app, brainchild of shadowy tech guru ‘Moxie Marlinspike’ (real name Matthew Rosenfeld), was launched in 2013 by his now-defunct Open Whisper Systems (OWS). The company never published financial statements or disclosed the identities of its funders at any point during its operation.\n
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        > Sums involved in developing, launching and running a messaging app used by countless people globally were nonetheless surely significant. The newly-published financial records indicate Signal’s operating costs for 2023 alone are $40 million, and projected to rise to $50 million by 2025. Rosenfeld boasted in 2018 that OWS “never [took] VC funding or sought investment” at any point, although mysteriously failed to mention millions were provided by Open Technology Fund (OTF).\n
        > \n
        > OTF was launched in 2012 as a pilot program of Radio Free Asia (RFA), an asset of US Agency for Global Media (USAGM), which is funded by US Congress to the tune of over $1 billion annually. In August 2018, its then-CEO openly acknowledged the Agency’s “global priorities…reflect US national security and public diplomacy interests.”\n
        > \n
        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
        \n
        Archive links:\n
        \n
        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
        - [ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV](https://ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV)
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        > On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat. Unmentioned by Whittaker, this budget shortfall results in large part due to the US intelligence community, which lavishly financed Signal’s creation and maintenance over several years, severing its support for the app.\n
        > \n
        > Never acknowledged in any serious way by the mainstream media, Signal’s origins as a US government asset are a matter of extensive public record, even if the scope and scale of the funding provided has until now been secret. The app, brainchild of shadowy tech guru ‘Moxie Marlinspike’ (real name Matthew Rosenfeld), was launched in 2013 by his now-defunct Open Whisper Systems (OWS). The company never published financial statements or disclosed the identities of its funders at any point during its operation.\n
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        > Sums involved in developing, launching and running a messaging app used by countless people globally were nonetheless surely significant. The newly-published financial records indicate Signal’s operating costs for 2023 alone are $40 million, and projected to rise to $50 million by 2025. Rosenfeld boasted in 2018 that OWS “never [took] VC funding or sought investment” at any point, although mysteriously failed to mention millions were provided by Open Technology Fund (OTF).\n
        > \n
        > OTF was launched in 2012 as a pilot program of Radio Free Asia (RFA), an asset of US Agency for Global Media (USAGM), which is funded by US Congress to the tune of over $1 billion annually. In August 2018, its then-CEO openly acknowledged the Agency’s “global priorities…reflect US national security and public diplomacy interests.”\n
        > \n
        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
        \n
        Archive links:\n
        \n
        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
        - [ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV](https://ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV)
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      “**Between 2013 and 2016**, Open Whisper Systems **received grants from** the Shuttleworth Foundation,[49] the Knight Foundation,[50] and **the Open Technology Fund.**[51]”\n
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      “Marlinspike launched Open Whisper Systems’ website in January 2013.[2][1]”\n
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      (from the page you linked)\n
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      How is that not the OTF (100% funded by Radio Free Asia) since its inception? how is it not its initial conception phase?
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          - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
          - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
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        > On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat. Unmentioned by Whittaker, this budget shortfall results in large part due to the US intelligence community, which lavishly financed Signal’s creation and maintenance over several years, severing its support for the app.\n
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        > Never acknowledged in any serious way by the mainstream media, Signal’s origins as a US government asset are a matter of extensive public record, even if the scope and scale of the funding provided has until now been secret. The app, brainchild of shadowy tech guru ‘Moxie Marlinspike’ (real name Matthew Rosenfeld), was launched in 2013 by his now-defunct Open Whisper Systems (OWS). The company never published financial statements or disclosed the identities of its funders at any point during its operation.\n
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        > Sums involved in developing, launching and running a messaging app used by countless people globally were nonetheless surely significant. The newly-published financial records indicate Signal’s operating costs for 2023 alone are $40 million, and projected to rise to $50 million by 2025. Rosenfeld boasted in 2018 that OWS “never [took] VC funding or sought investment” at any point, although mysteriously failed to mention millions were provided by Open Technology Fund (OTF).\n
        > \n
        > OTF was launched in 2012 as a pilot program of Radio Free Asia (RFA), an asset of US Agency for Global Media (USAGM), which is funded by US Congress to the tune of over $1 billion annually. In August 2018, its then-CEO openly acknowledged the Agency’s “global priorities…reflect US national security and public diplomacy interests.”\n
        > \n
        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
        \n
        Archive links:\n
        \n
        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
        - [ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV](https://ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV)
        """
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      “**Between 2013 and 2016**, Open Whisper Systems **received grants from** the Shuttleworth Foundation,[49] the Knight Foundation,[50] and **the Open Technology Fund.**[51]”\n
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      “Marlinspike launched Open Whisper Systems’ website in January 2013.[2][1]”\n
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      How is that not the OTF (100% funded by Radio Free Asia) since its inception? how is it not its initial conception phase?
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          - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
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          - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
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        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
        \n
        Archive links:\n
        \n
        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
        - [ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV](https://ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV)
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      “**Between 2013 and 2016**, Open Whisper Systems **received grants from** the Shuttleworth Foundation,[49] the Knight Foundation,[50] and **the Open Technology Fund.**[51]”\n
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      “Marlinspike launched Open Whisper Systems’ website in January 2013.[2][1]”\n
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      How is that not the OTF (100% funded by Radio Free Asia) since its inception? how is it not its initial conception phase?
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        > On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat. Unmentioned by Whittaker, this budget shortfall results in large part due to the US intelligence community, which lavishly financed Signal’s creation and maintenance over several years, severing its support for the app.\n
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        > Never acknowledged in any serious way by the mainstream media, Signal’s origins as a US government asset are a matter of extensive public record, even if the scope and scale of the funding provided has until now been secret. The app, brainchild of shadowy tech guru ‘Moxie Marlinspike’ (real name Matthew Rosenfeld), was launched in 2013 by his now-defunct Open Whisper Systems (OWS). The company never published financial statements or disclosed the identities of its funders at any point during its operation.\n
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        > Sums involved in developing, launching and running a messaging app used by countless people globally were nonetheless surely significant. The newly-published financial records indicate Signal’s operating costs for 2023 alone are $40 million, and projected to rise to $50 million by 2025. Rosenfeld boasted in 2018 that OWS “never [took] VC funding or sought investment” at any point, although mysteriously failed to mention millions were provided by Open Technology Fund (OTF).\n
        > \n
        > OTF was launched in 2012 as a pilot program of Radio Free Asia (RFA), an asset of US Agency for Global Media (USAGM), which is funded by US Congress to the tune of over $1 billion annually. In August 2018, its then-CEO openly acknowledged the Agency’s “global priorities…reflect US national security and public diplomacy interests.”\n
        > \n
        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
        \n
        Archive links:\n
        \n
        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
        - [ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV](https://ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV)
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      “**Between 2013 and 2016**, Open Whisper Systems **received grants from** the Shuttleworth Foundation,[49] the Knight Foundation,[50] and **the Open Technology Fund.**[51]”\n
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      “Marlinspike launched Open Whisper Systems’ website in January 2013.[2][1]”\n
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      How is that not the OTF (100% funded by Radio Free Asia) since its inception? how is it not its initial conception phase?
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        > On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat. Unmentioned by Whittaker, this budget shortfall results in large part due to the US intelligence community, which lavishly financed Signal’s creation and maintenance over several years, severing its support for the app.\n
        > \n
        > Never acknowledged in any serious way by the mainstream media, Signal’s origins as a US government asset are a matter of extensive public record, even if the scope and scale of the funding provided has until now been secret. The app, brainchild of shadowy tech guru ‘Moxie Marlinspike’ (real name Matthew Rosenfeld), was launched in 2013 by his now-defunct Open Whisper Systems (OWS). The company never published financial statements or disclosed the identities of its funders at any point during its operation.\n
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        > Sums involved in developing, launching and running a messaging app used by countless people globally were nonetheless surely significant. The newly-published financial records indicate Signal’s operating costs for 2023 alone are $40 million, and projected to rise to $50 million by 2025. Rosenfeld boasted in 2018 that OWS “never [took] VC funding or sought investment” at any point, although mysteriously failed to mention millions were provided by Open Technology Fund (OTF).\n
        > \n
        > OTF was launched in 2012 as a pilot program of Radio Free Asia (RFA), an asset of US Agency for Global Media (USAGM), which is funded by US Congress to the tune of over $1 billion annually. In August 2018, its then-CEO openly acknowledged the Agency’s “global priorities…reflect US national security and public diplomacy interests.”\n
        > \n
        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
        \n
        Archive links:\n
        \n
        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
        - [ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV](https://ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV)
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      “**Between 2013 and 2016**, Open Whisper Systems **received grants from** the Shuttleworth Foundation,[49] the Knight Foundation,[50] and **the Open Technology Fund.**[51]”\n
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      “Marlinspike launched Open Whisper Systems’ website in January 2013.[2][1]”\n
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      (from the page you linked)\n
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      How is that not the OTF (100% funded by Radio Free Asia) since its inception? how is it not its initial conception phase?
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        > \n
        > OTF was launched in 2012 as a pilot program of Radio Free Asia (RFA), an asset of US Agency for Global Media (USAGM), which is funded by US Congress to the tune of over $1 billion annually. In August 2018, its then-CEO openly acknowledged the Agency’s “global priorities…reflect US national security and public diplomacy interests.”\n
        > \n
        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
        \n
        Archive links:\n
        \n
        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
        - [ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV](https://ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV)
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      “**Between 2013 and 2016**, Open Whisper Systems **received grants from** the Shuttleworth Foundation,[49] the Knight Foundation,[50] and **the Open Technology Fund.**[51]”\n
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      “Marlinspike launched Open Whisper Systems’ website in January 2013.[2][1]”\n
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      How is that not the OTF (100% funded by Radio Free Asia) since its inception? how is it not its initial conception phase?
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        > On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat. Unmentioned by Whittaker, this budget shortfall results in large part due to the US intelligence community, which lavishly financed Signal’s creation and maintenance over several years, severing its support for the app.\n
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        > Never acknowledged in any serious way by the mainstream media, Signal’s origins as a US government asset are a matter of extensive public record, even if the scope and scale of the funding provided has until now been secret. The app, brainchild of shadowy tech guru ‘Moxie Marlinspike’ (real name Matthew Rosenfeld), was launched in 2013 by his now-defunct Open Whisper Systems (OWS). The company never published financial statements or disclosed the identities of its funders at any point during its operation.\n
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        > Sums involved in developing, launching and running a messaging app used by countless people globally were nonetheless surely significant. The newly-published financial records indicate Signal’s operating costs for 2023 alone are $40 million, and projected to rise to $50 million by 2025. Rosenfeld boasted in 2018 that OWS “never [took] VC funding or sought investment” at any point, although mysteriously failed to mention millions were provided by Open Technology Fund (OTF).\n
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        > OTF was launched in 2012 as a pilot program of Radio Free Asia (RFA), an asset of US Agency for Global Media (USAGM), which is funded by US Congress to the tune of over $1 billion annually. In August 2018, its then-CEO openly acknowledged the Agency’s “global priorities…reflect US national security and public diplomacy interests.”\n
        > \n
        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
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        Archive links:\n
        \n
        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
        - [ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV](https://ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV)
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      “**Between 2013 and 2016**, Open Whisper Systems **received grants from** the Shuttleworth Foundation,[49] the Knight Foundation,[50] and **the Open Technology Fund.**[51]”\n
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      How is that not the OTF (100% funded by Radio Free Asia) since its inception? how is it not its initial conception phase?
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        > On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat. Unmentioned by Whittaker, this budget shortfall results in large part due to the US intelligence community, which lavishly financed Signal’s creation and maintenance over several years, severing its support for the app.\n
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        > Never acknowledged in any serious way by the mainstream media, Signal’s origins as a US government asset are a matter of extensive public record, even if the scope and scale of the funding provided has until now been secret. The app, brainchild of shadowy tech guru ‘Moxie Marlinspike’ (real name Matthew Rosenfeld), was launched in 2013 by his now-defunct Open Whisper Systems (OWS). The company never published financial statements or disclosed the identities of its funders at any point during its operation.\n
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        > Sums involved in developing, launching and running a messaging app used by countless people globally were nonetheless surely significant. The newly-published financial records indicate Signal’s operating costs for 2023 alone are $40 million, and projected to rise to $50 million by 2025. Rosenfeld boasted in 2018 that OWS “never [took] VC funding or sought investment” at any point, although mysteriously failed to mention millions were provided by Open Technology Fund (OTF).\n
        > \n
        > OTF was launched in 2012 as a pilot program of Radio Free Asia (RFA), an asset of US Agency for Global Media (USAGM), which is funded by US Congress to the tune of over $1 billion annually. In August 2018, its then-CEO openly acknowledged the Agency’s “global priorities…reflect US national security and public diplomacy interests.”\n
        > \n
        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
        \n
        Archive links:\n
        \n
        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
        - [ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV](https://ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV)
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      “**Between 2013 and 2016**, Open Whisper Systems **received grants from** the Shuttleworth Foundation,[49] the Knight Foundation,[50] and **the Open Technology Fund.**[51]”\n
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      “Marlinspike launched Open Whisper Systems’ website in January 2013.[2][1]”\n
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      How is that not the OTF (100% funded by Radio Free Asia) since its inception? how is it not its initial conception phase?
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          - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
          - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
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          ### Chat rooms\n
          \n
          - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
          - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
          \n
          much thanks to @gary_host_laptop for the logo design :)
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        > On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat. Unmentioned by Whittaker, this budget shortfall results in large part due to the US intelligence community, which lavishly financed Signal’s creation and maintenance over several years, severing its support for the app.\n
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        > Never acknowledged in any serious way by the mainstream media, Signal’s origins as a US government asset are a matter of extensive public record, even if the scope and scale of the funding provided has until now been secret. The app, brainchild of shadowy tech guru ‘Moxie Marlinspike’ (real name Matthew Rosenfeld), was launched in 2013 by his now-defunct Open Whisper Systems (OWS). The company never published financial statements or disclosed the identities of its funders at any point during its operation.\n
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        > Sums involved in developing, launching and running a messaging app used by countless people globally were nonetheless surely significant. The newly-published financial records indicate Signal’s operating costs for 2023 alone are $40 million, and projected to rise to $50 million by 2025. Rosenfeld boasted in 2018 that OWS “never [took] VC funding or sought investment” at any point, although mysteriously failed to mention millions were provided by Open Technology Fund (OTF).\n
        > \n
        > OTF was launched in 2012 as a pilot program of Radio Free Asia (RFA), an asset of US Agency for Global Media (USAGM), which is funded by US Congress to the tune of over $1 billion annually. In August 2018, its then-CEO openly acknowledged the Agency’s “global priorities…reflect US national security and public diplomacy interests.”\n
        > \n
        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
        \n
        Archive links:\n
        \n
        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
        - [ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV](https://ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV)
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            yet it’s fair to say that:\n
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            - therefore some of the characteristics its users still suffer today (like reliance on strong selectors, pinky-promise of non-retaining metadata, centralized architecture based on the same “cloud” as the one of the CIA and other decisions hostile to free/libre software users and ethics) originate from that era.
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        “**Between 2013 and 2016**, Open Whisper Systems **received grants from** the Shuttleworth Foundation,[49] the Knight Foundation,[50] and **the Open Technology Fund.**[51]”\n
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        “Marlinspike launched Open Whisper Systems’ website in January 2013.[2][1]”\n
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        How is that not the OTF (100% funded by Radio Free Asia) since its inception? how is it not its initial conception phase?
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        > On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat. Unmentioned by Whittaker, this budget shortfall results in large part due to the US intelligence community, which lavishly financed Signal’s creation and maintenance over several years, severing its support for the app.\n
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        > Never acknowledged in any serious way by the mainstream media, Signal’s origins as a US government asset are a matter of extensive public record, even if the scope and scale of the funding provided has until now been secret. The app, brainchild of shadowy tech guru ‘Moxie Marlinspike’ (real name Matthew Rosenfeld), was launched in 2013 by his now-defunct Open Whisper Systems (OWS). The company never published financial statements or disclosed the identities of its funders at any point during its operation.\n
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        > Sums involved in developing, launching and running a messaging app used by countless people globally were nonetheless surely significant. The newly-published financial records indicate Signal’s operating costs for 2023 alone are $40 million, and projected to rise to $50 million by 2025. Rosenfeld boasted in 2018 that OWS “never [took] VC funding or sought investment” at any point, although mysteriously failed to mention millions were provided by Open Technology Fund (OTF).\n
        > \n
        > OTF was launched in 2012 as a pilot program of Radio Free Asia (RFA), an asset of US Agency for Global Media (USAGM), which is funded by US Congress to the tune of over $1 billion annually. In August 2018, its then-CEO openly acknowledged the Agency’s “global priorities…reflect US national security and public diplomacy interests.”\n
        > \n
        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
        \n
        Archive links:\n
        \n
        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
        - [ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV](https://ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV)
        """
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        “**Between 2013 and 2016**, Open Whisper Systems **received grants from** the Shuttleworth Foundation,[49] the Knight Foundation,[50] and **the Open Technology Fund.**[51]”\n
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          ============================================================\n
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          Privacy has become a very important issue in modern society, with companies and governments constantly abusing their power, more and more people are waking up to the importance of digital privacy.\n
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          - Be nice :)\n
          \n
          ### Related communities\n
          \n
          - [Lemmy.ml libre_culture](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_culture)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
          - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
          \n
          ### Chat rooms\n
          \n
          - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
          - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
          \n
          much thanks to @gary_host_laptop for the logo design :)
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        > On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat. Unmentioned by Whittaker, this budget shortfall results in large part due to the US intelligence community, which lavishly financed Signal’s creation and maintenance over several years, severing its support for the app.\n
        > \n
        > Never acknowledged in any serious way by the mainstream media, Signal’s origins as a US government asset are a matter of extensive public record, even if the scope and scale of the funding provided has until now been secret. The app, brainchild of shadowy tech guru ‘Moxie Marlinspike’ (real name Matthew Rosenfeld), was launched in 2013 by his now-defunct Open Whisper Systems (OWS). The company never published financial statements or disclosed the identities of its funders at any point during its operation.\n
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        > Sums involved in developing, launching and running a messaging app used by countless people globally were nonetheless surely significant. The newly-published financial records indicate Signal’s operating costs for 2023 alone are $40 million, and projected to rise to $50 million by 2025. Rosenfeld boasted in 2018 that OWS “never [took] VC funding or sought investment” at any point, although mysteriously failed to mention millions were provided by Open Technology Fund (OTF).\n
        > \n
        > OTF was launched in 2012 as a pilot program of Radio Free Asia (RFA), an asset of US Agency for Global Media (USAGM), which is funded by US Congress to the tune of over $1 billion annually. In August 2018, its then-CEO openly acknowledged the Agency’s “global priorities…reflect US national security and public diplomacy interests.”\n
        > \n
        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
        \n
        Archive links:\n
        \n
        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
        - [ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV](https://ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV)
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        “**Between 2013 and 2016**, Open Whisper Systems **received grants from** the Shuttleworth Foundation,[49] the Knight Foundation,[50] and **the Open Technology Fund.**[51]”\n
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        “Marlinspike launched Open Whisper Systems’ website in January 2013.[2][1]”\n
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        (from the page you linked)\n
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        How is that not the OTF (100% funded by Radio Free Asia) since its inception? how is it not its initial conception phase?
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        > On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat. Unmentioned by Whittaker, this budget shortfall results in large part due to the US intelligence community, which lavishly financed Signal’s creation and maintenance over several years, severing its support for the app.\n
        > \n
        > Never acknowledged in any serious way by the mainstream media, Signal’s origins as a US government asset are a matter of extensive public record, even if the scope and scale of the funding provided has until now been secret. The app, brainchild of shadowy tech guru ‘Moxie Marlinspike’ (real name Matthew Rosenfeld), was launched in 2013 by his now-defunct Open Whisper Systems (OWS). The company never published financial statements or disclosed the identities of its funders at any point during its operation.\n
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        > Sums involved in developing, launching and running a messaging app used by countless people globally were nonetheless surely significant. The newly-published financial records indicate Signal’s operating costs for 2023 alone are $40 million, and projected to rise to $50 million by 2025. Rosenfeld boasted in 2018 that OWS “never [took] VC funding or sought investment” at any point, although mysteriously failed to mention millions were provided by Open Technology Fund (OTF).\n
        > \n
        > OTF was launched in 2012 as a pilot program of Radio Free Asia (RFA), an asset of US Agency for Global Media (USAGM), which is funded by US Congress to the tune of over $1 billion annually. In August 2018, its then-CEO openly acknowledged the Agency’s “global priorities…reflect US national security and public diplomacy interests.”\n
        > \n
        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
        \n
        Archive links:\n
        \n
        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
        - [ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV](https://ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV)
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            yet it’s fair to say that:\n
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        “**Between 2013 and 2016**, Open Whisper Systems **received grants from** the Shuttleworth Foundation,[49] the Knight Foundation,[50] and **the Open Technology Fund.**[51]”\n
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        “Marlinspike launched Open Whisper Systems’ website in January 2013.[2][1]”\n
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        (from the page you linked)\n
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        How is that not the OTF (100% funded by Radio Free Asia) since its inception? how is it not its initial conception phase?
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          - [Lemmy.ml libre_culture](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_culture)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
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          ### Chat rooms\n
          \n
          - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
          - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
          \n
          much thanks to @gary_host_laptop for the logo design :)
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        > On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat. Unmentioned by Whittaker, this budget shortfall results in large part due to the US intelligence community, which lavishly financed Signal’s creation and maintenance over several years, severing its support for the app.\n
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        > Never acknowledged in any serious way by the mainstream media, Signal’s origins as a US government asset are a matter of extensive public record, even if the scope and scale of the funding provided has until now been secret. The app, brainchild of shadowy tech guru ‘Moxie Marlinspike’ (real name Matthew Rosenfeld), was launched in 2013 by his now-defunct Open Whisper Systems (OWS). The company never published financial statements or disclosed the identities of its funders at any point during its operation.\n
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        > Sums involved in developing, launching and running a messaging app used by countless people globally were nonetheless surely significant. The newly-published financial records indicate Signal’s operating costs for 2023 alone are $40 million, and projected to rise to $50 million by 2025. Rosenfeld boasted in 2018 that OWS “never [took] VC funding or sought investment” at any point, although mysteriously failed to mention millions were provided by Open Technology Fund (OTF).\n
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        > OTF was launched in 2012 as a pilot program of Radio Free Asia (RFA), an asset of US Agency for Global Media (USAGM), which is funded by US Congress to the tune of over $1 billion annually. In August 2018, its then-CEO openly acknowledged the Agency’s “global priorities…reflect US national security and public diplomacy interests.”\n
        > \n
        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
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        Archive links:\n
        \n
        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
        - [ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV](https://ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV)
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              yet it’s fair to say that:\n
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          “**Between 2013 and 2016**, Open Whisper Systems **received grants from** the Shuttleworth Foundation,[49] the Knight Foundation,[50] and **the Open Technology Fund.**[51]”\n
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          “Marlinspike launched Open Whisper Systems’ website in January 2013.[2][1]”\n
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          (from the page you linked)\n
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          How is that not the OTF (100% funded by Radio Free Asia) since its inception? how is it not its initial conception phase?
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      well before 2013 it wasnt “Signal” but some proprietary software. After 2016 it wasn’t anymore “the initial phase”\n
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        > On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat. Unmentioned by Whittaker, this budget shortfall results in large part due to the US intelligence community, which lavishly financed Signal’s creation and maintenance over several years, severing its support for the app.\n
        > \n
        > Never acknowledged in any serious way by the mainstream media, Signal’s origins as a US government asset are a matter of extensive public record, even if the scope and scale of the funding provided has until now been secret. The app, brainchild of shadowy tech guru ‘Moxie Marlinspike’ (real name Matthew Rosenfeld), was launched in 2013 by his now-defunct Open Whisper Systems (OWS). The company never published financial statements or disclosed the identities of its funders at any point during its operation.\n
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        > Sums involved in developing, launching and running a messaging app used by countless people globally were nonetheless surely significant. The newly-published financial records indicate Signal’s operating costs for 2023 alone are $40 million, and projected to rise to $50 million by 2025. Rosenfeld boasted in 2018 that OWS “never [took] VC funding or sought investment” at any point, although mysteriously failed to mention millions were provided by Open Technology Fund (OTF).\n
        > \n
        > OTF was launched in 2012 as a pilot program of Radio Free Asia (RFA), an asset of US Agency for Global Media (USAGM), which is funded by US Congress to the tune of over $1 billion annually. In August 2018, its then-CEO openly acknowledged the Agency’s “global priorities…reflect US national security and public diplomacy interests.”\n
        > \n
        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
        \n
        Archive links:\n
        \n
        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
        - [ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV](https://ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV)
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              - therefore some of the characteristics its users still suffer today (like reliance on strong selectors, pinky-promise of non-retaining metadata, centralized architecture based on the same “cloud” as the one of the CIA and other decisions hostile to free/libre software users and ethics) originate from that era.
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          “**Between 2013 and 2016**, Open Whisper Systems **received grants from** the Shuttleworth Foundation,[49] the Knight Foundation,[50] and **the Open Technology Fund.**[51]”\n
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          “Marlinspike launched Open Whisper Systems’ website in January 2013.[2][1]”\n
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          (from the page you linked)\n
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          How is that not the OTF (100% funded by Radio Free Asia) since its inception? how is it not its initial conception phase?
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      well before 2013 it wasnt “Signal” but some proprietary software. After 2016 it wasn’t anymore “the initial phase”\n
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      Funny how you don’t seem to be wanting to see 2013-2016, but it’s OK. facts speak for themselves :)
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          - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
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        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
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        Archive links:\n
        \n
        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
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              - therefore some of the characteristics its users still suffer today (like reliance on strong selectors, pinky-promise of non-retaining metadata, centralized architecture based on the same “cloud” as the one of the CIA and other decisions hostile to free/libre software users and ethics) originate from that era.
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          “**Between 2013 and 2016**, Open Whisper Systems **received grants from** the Shuttleworth Foundation,[49] the Knight Foundation,[50] and **the Open Technology Fund.**[51]”\n
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          “Marlinspike launched Open Whisper Systems’ website in January 2013.[2][1]”\n
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          (from the page you linked)\n
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          How is that not the OTF (100% funded by Radio Free Asia) since its inception? how is it not its initial conception phase?
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      well before 2013 it wasnt “Signal” but some proprietary software. After 2016 it wasn’t anymore “the initial phase”\n
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        > On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat. Unmentioned by Whittaker, this budget shortfall results in large part due to the US intelligence community, which lavishly financed Signal’s creation and maintenance over several years, severing its support for the app.\n
        > \n
        > Never acknowledged in any serious way by the mainstream media, Signal’s origins as a US government asset are a matter of extensive public record, even if the scope and scale of the funding provided has until now been secret. The app, brainchild of shadowy tech guru ‘Moxie Marlinspike’ (real name Matthew Rosenfeld), was launched in 2013 by his now-defunct Open Whisper Systems (OWS). The company never published financial statements or disclosed the identities of its funders at any point during its operation.\n
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        > Sums involved in developing, launching and running a messaging app used by countless people globally were nonetheless surely significant. The newly-published financial records indicate Signal’s operating costs for 2023 alone are $40 million, and projected to rise to $50 million by 2025. Rosenfeld boasted in 2018 that OWS “never [took] VC funding or sought investment” at any point, although mysteriously failed to mention millions were provided by Open Technology Fund (OTF).\n
        > \n
        > OTF was launched in 2012 as a pilot program of Radio Free Asia (RFA), an asset of US Agency for Global Media (USAGM), which is funded by US Congress to the tune of over $1 billion annually. In August 2018, its then-CEO openly acknowledged the Agency’s “global priorities…reflect US national security and public diplomacy interests.”\n
        > \n
        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
        \n
        Archive links:\n
        \n
        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
        - [ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV](https://ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV)
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              yet it’s fair to say that:\n
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          “**Between 2013 and 2016**, Open Whisper Systems **received grants from** the Shuttleworth Foundation,[49] the Knight Foundation,[50] and **the Open Technology Fund.**[51]”\n
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          “Marlinspike launched Open Whisper Systems’ website in January 2013.[2][1]”\n
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          (from the page you linked)\n
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          How is that not the OTF (100% funded by Radio Free Asia) since its inception? how is it not its initial conception phase?
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      well before 2013 it wasnt “Signal” but some proprietary software. After 2016 it wasn’t anymore “the initial phase”\n
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      Funny how you don’t seem to be wanting to see 2013-2016, but it’s OK. facts speak for themselves :)
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          - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
          - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
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          ### Chat rooms\n
          \n
          - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
          - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
          \n
          much thanks to @gary_host_laptop for the logo design :)
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        > On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat. Unmentioned by Whittaker, this budget shortfall results in large part due to the US intelligence community, which lavishly financed Signal’s creation and maintenance over several years, severing its support for the app.\n
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        > Never acknowledged in any serious way by the mainstream media, Signal’s origins as a US government asset are a matter of extensive public record, even if the scope and scale of the funding provided has until now been secret. The app, brainchild of shadowy tech guru ‘Moxie Marlinspike’ (real name Matthew Rosenfeld), was launched in 2013 by his now-defunct Open Whisper Systems (OWS). The company never published financial statements or disclosed the identities of its funders at any point during its operation.\n
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        > Sums involved in developing, launching and running a messaging app used by countless people globally were nonetheless surely significant. The newly-published financial records indicate Signal’s operating costs for 2023 alone are $40 million, and projected to rise to $50 million by 2025. Rosenfeld boasted in 2018 that OWS “never [took] VC funding or sought investment” at any point, although mysteriously failed to mention millions were provided by Open Technology Fund (OTF).\n
        > \n
        > OTF was launched in 2012 as a pilot program of Radio Free Asia (RFA), an asset of US Agency for Global Media (USAGM), which is funded by US Congress to the tune of over $1 billion annually. In August 2018, its then-CEO openly acknowledged the Agency’s “global priorities…reflect US national security and public diplomacy interests.”\n
        > \n
        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
        \n
        Archive links:\n
        \n
        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
        - [ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV](https://ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV)
        """
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              yet it’s fair to say that:\n
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              - Signal was incepted by US gov funds\n
              - During most of it’s initial conception phase it was US gov funded\n
              - therefore some of the characteristics its users still suffer today (like reliance on strong selectors, pinky-promise of non-retaining metadata, centralized architecture based on the same “cloud” as the one of the CIA and other decisions hostile to free/libre software users and ethics) originate from that era.
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          “**Between 2013 and 2016**, Open Whisper Systems **received grants from** the Shuttleworth Foundation,[49] the Knight Foundation,[50] and **the Open Technology Fund.**[51]”\n
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          “Marlinspike launched Open Whisper Systems’ website in January 2013.[2][1]”\n
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          (from the page you linked)\n
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          How is that not the OTF (100% funded by Radio Free Asia) since its inception? how is it not its initial conception phase?
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      well before 2013 it wasnt “Signal” but some proprietary software. After 2016 it wasn’t anymore “the initial phase”\n
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      Funny how you don’t seem to be wanting to see 2013-2016, but it’s OK. facts speak for themselves :)
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          - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
          - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
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        > Never acknowledged in any serious way by the mainstream media, Signal’s origins as a US government asset are a matter of extensive public record, even if the scope and scale of the funding provided has until now been secret. The app, brainchild of shadowy tech guru ‘Moxie Marlinspike’ (real name Matthew Rosenfeld), was launched in 2013 by his now-defunct Open Whisper Systems (OWS). The company never published financial statements or disclosed the identities of its funders at any point during its operation.\n
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        > Sums involved in developing, launching and running a messaging app used by countless people globally were nonetheless surely significant. The newly-published financial records indicate Signal’s operating costs for 2023 alone are $40 million, and projected to rise to $50 million by 2025. Rosenfeld boasted in 2018 that OWS “never [took] VC funding or sought investment” at any point, although mysteriously failed to mention millions were provided by Open Technology Fund (OTF).\n
        > \n
        > OTF was launched in 2012 as a pilot program of Radio Free Asia (RFA), an asset of US Agency for Global Media (USAGM), which is funded by US Congress to the tune of over $1 billion annually. In August 2018, its then-CEO openly acknowledged the Agency’s “global priorities…reflect US national security and public diplomacy interests.”\n
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        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
        \n
        Archive links:\n
        \n
        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
        - [ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV](https://ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV)
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              - therefore some of the characteristics its users still suffer today (like reliance on strong selectors, pinky-promise of non-retaining metadata, centralized architecture based on the same “cloud” as the one of the CIA and other decisions hostile to free/libre software users and ethics) originate from that era.
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          “**Between 2013 and 2016**, Open Whisper Systems **received grants from** the Shuttleworth Foundation,[49] the Knight Foundation,[50] and **the Open Technology Fund.**[51]”\n
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          “Marlinspike launched Open Whisper Systems’ website in January 2013.[2][1]”\n
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          (from the page you linked)\n
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          How is that not the OTF (100% funded by Radio Free Asia) since its inception? how is it not its initial conception phase?
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      well before 2013 it wasnt “Signal” but some proprietary software. After 2016 it wasn’t anymore “the initial phase”\n
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        > On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat. Unmentioned by Whittaker, this budget shortfall results in large part due to the US intelligence community, which lavishly financed Signal’s creation and maintenance over several years, severing its support for the app.\n
        > \n
        > Never acknowledged in any serious way by the mainstream media, Signal’s origins as a US government asset are a matter of extensive public record, even if the scope and scale of the funding provided has until now been secret. The app, brainchild of shadowy tech guru ‘Moxie Marlinspike’ (real name Matthew Rosenfeld), was launched in 2013 by his now-defunct Open Whisper Systems (OWS). The company never published financial statements or disclosed the identities of its funders at any point during its operation.\n
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        > Sums involved in developing, launching and running a messaging app used by countless people globally were nonetheless surely significant. The newly-published financial records indicate Signal’s operating costs for 2023 alone are $40 million, and projected to rise to $50 million by 2025. Rosenfeld boasted in 2018 that OWS “never [took] VC funding or sought investment” at any point, although mysteriously failed to mention millions were provided by Open Technology Fund (OTF).\n
        > \n
        > OTF was launched in 2012 as a pilot program of Radio Free Asia (RFA), an asset of US Agency for Global Media (USAGM), which is funded by US Congress to the tune of over $1 billion annually. In August 2018, its then-CEO openly acknowledged the Agency’s “global priorities…reflect US national security and public diplomacy interests.”\n
        > \n
        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
        \n
        Archive links:\n
        \n
        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
        - [ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV](https://ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV)
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              yet it’s fair to say that:\n
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              - therefore some of the characteristics its users still suffer today (like reliance on strong selectors, pinky-promise of non-retaining metadata, centralized architecture based on the same “cloud” as the one of the CIA and other decisions hostile to free/libre software users and ethics) originate from that era.
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          “**Between 2013 and 2016**, Open Whisper Systems **received grants from** the Shuttleworth Foundation,[49] the Knight Foundation,[50] and **the Open Technology Fund.**[51]”\n
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          “Marlinspike launched Open Whisper Systems’ website in January 2013.[2][1]”\n
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          (from the page you linked)\n
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          How is that not the OTF (100% funded by Radio Free Asia) since its inception? how is it not its initial conception phase?
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      well before 2013 it wasnt “Signal” but some proprietary software. After 2016 it wasn’t anymore “the initial phase”\n
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          - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
          - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
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          ### Chat rooms\n
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          - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
          - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
          \n
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        > On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat. Unmentioned by Whittaker, this budget shortfall results in large part due to the US intelligence community, which lavishly financed Signal’s creation and maintenance over several years, severing its support for the app.\n
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        > Never acknowledged in any serious way by the mainstream media, Signal’s origins as a US government asset are a matter of extensive public record, even if the scope and scale of the funding provided has until now been secret. The app, brainchild of shadowy tech guru ‘Moxie Marlinspike’ (real name Matthew Rosenfeld), was launched in 2013 by his now-defunct Open Whisper Systems (OWS). The company never published financial statements or disclosed the identities of its funders at any point during its operation.\n
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        > Sums involved in developing, launching and running a messaging app used by countless people globally were nonetheless surely significant. The newly-published financial records indicate Signal’s operating costs for 2023 alone are $40 million, and projected to rise to $50 million by 2025. Rosenfeld boasted in 2018 that OWS “never [took] VC funding or sought investment” at any point, although mysteriously failed to mention millions were provided by Open Technology Fund (OTF).\n
        > \n
        > OTF was launched in 2012 as a pilot program of Radio Free Asia (RFA), an asset of US Agency for Global Media (USAGM), which is funded by US Congress to the tune of over $1 billion annually. In August 2018, its then-CEO openly acknowledged the Agency’s “global priorities…reflect US national security and public diplomacy interests.”\n
        > \n
        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
        \n
        Archive links:\n
        \n
        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
        - [ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV](https://ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV)
        """
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              yet it’s fair to say that:\n
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              - therefore some of the characteristics its users still suffer today (like reliance on strong selectors, pinky-promise of non-retaining metadata, centralized architecture based on the same “cloud” as the one of the CIA and other decisions hostile to free/libre software users and ethics) originate from that era.
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          “**Between 2013 and 2016**, Open Whisper Systems **received grants from** the Shuttleworth Foundation,[49] the Knight Foundation,[50] and **the Open Technology Fund.**[51]”\n
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          “Marlinspike launched Open Whisper Systems’ website in January 2013.[2][1]”\n
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          (from the page you linked)\n
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          How is that not the OTF (100% funded by Radio Free Asia) since its inception? how is it not its initial conception phase?
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      well before 2013 it wasnt “Signal” but some proprietary software. After 2016 it wasn’t anymore “the initial phase”\n
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      Funny how you don’t seem to be wanting to see 2013-2016, but it’s OK. facts speak for themselves :)
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          ### Related communities\n
          \n
          - [Lemmy.ml libre_culture](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_culture)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
          - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
          \n
          ### Chat rooms\n
          \n
          - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
          - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
          \n
          much thanks to @gary_host_laptop for the logo design :)
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        > On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat. Unmentioned by Whittaker, this budget shortfall results in large part due to the US intelligence community, which lavishly financed Signal’s creation and maintenance over several years, severing its support for the app.\n
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        > Never acknowledged in any serious way by the mainstream media, Signal’s origins as a US government asset are a matter of extensive public record, even if the scope and scale of the funding provided has until now been secret. The app, brainchild of shadowy tech guru ‘Moxie Marlinspike’ (real name Matthew Rosenfeld), was launched in 2013 by his now-defunct Open Whisper Systems (OWS). The company never published financial statements or disclosed the identities of its funders at any point during its operation.\n
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        > Sums involved in developing, launching and running a messaging app used by countless people globally were nonetheless surely significant. The newly-published financial records indicate Signal’s operating costs for 2023 alone are $40 million, and projected to rise to $50 million by 2025. Rosenfeld boasted in 2018 that OWS “never [took] VC funding or sought investment” at any point, although mysteriously failed to mention millions were provided by Open Technology Fund (OTF).\n
        > \n
        > OTF was launched in 2012 as a pilot program of Radio Free Asia (RFA), an asset of US Agency for Global Media (USAGM), which is funded by US Congress to the tune of over $1 billion annually. In August 2018, its then-CEO openly acknowledged the Agency’s “global priorities…reflect US national security and public diplomacy interests.”\n
        > \n
        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
        \n
        Archive links:\n
        \n
        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
        - [ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV](https://ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV)
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          ============================================================\n
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          \n
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          ### Related communities\n
          \n
          - [Lemmy.ml libre_culture](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_culture)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
          - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
          \n
          ### Chat rooms\n
          \n
          - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
          - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
          \n
          much thanks to @gary_host_laptop for the logo design :)
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        > On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat. Unmentioned by Whittaker, this budget shortfall results in large part due to the US intelligence community, which lavishly financed Signal’s creation and maintenance over several years, severing its support for the app.\n
        > \n
        > Never acknowledged in any serious way by the mainstream media, Signal’s origins as a US government asset are a matter of extensive public record, even if the scope and scale of the funding provided has until now been secret. The app, brainchild of shadowy tech guru ‘Moxie Marlinspike’ (real name Matthew Rosenfeld), was launched in 2013 by his now-defunct Open Whisper Systems (OWS). The company never published financial statements or disclosed the identities of its funders at any point during its operation.\n
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        > Sums involved in developing, launching and running a messaging app used by countless people globally were nonetheless surely significant. The newly-published financial records indicate Signal’s operating costs for 2023 alone are $40 million, and projected to rise to $50 million by 2025. Rosenfeld boasted in 2018 that OWS “never [took] VC funding or sought investment” at any point, although mysteriously failed to mention millions were provided by Open Technology Fund (OTF).\n
        > \n
        > OTF was launched in 2012 as a pilot program of Radio Free Asia (RFA), an asset of US Agency for Global Media (USAGM), which is funded by US Congress to the tune of over $1 billion annually. In August 2018, its then-CEO openly acknowledged the Agency’s “global priorities…reflect US national security and public diplomacy interests.”\n
        > \n
        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
        \n
        Archive links:\n
        \n
        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
        - [ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV](https://ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV)
        """
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      ============================================================\n
      \n
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      ### Related communities\n
      \n
      - [Lemmy.ml libre_culture](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_culture)\n
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        - [Lemmy.ml libre_culture](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_culture)\n
        - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
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        - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
        - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
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      > On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat. Unmentioned by Whittaker, this budget shortfall results in large part due to the US intelligence community, which lavishly financed Signal’s creation and maintenance over several years, severing its support for the app.\n
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      > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
      \n
      Archive links:\n
      \n
      - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
      - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
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          ### Related communities\n
          \n
          - [Lemmy.ml libre_culture](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_culture)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
          - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
          \n
          ### Chat rooms\n
          \n
          - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
          - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
          \n
          much thanks to @gary_host_laptop for the logo design :)
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        > On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat. Unmentioned by Whittaker, this budget shortfall results in large part due to the US intelligence community, which lavishly financed Signal’s creation and maintenance over several years, severing its support for the app.\n
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        > \n
        > OTF was launched in 2012 as a pilot program of Radio Free Asia (RFA), an asset of US Agency for Global Media (USAGM), which is funded by US Congress to the tune of over $1 billion annually. In August 2018, its then-CEO openly acknowledged the Agency’s “global priorities…reflect US national security and public diplomacy interests.”\n
        > \n
        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
        \n
        Archive links:\n
        \n
        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
        - [ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV](https://ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV)
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          - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
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        > \n
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        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
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        Archive links:\n
        \n
        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
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          \n
          - [Lemmy.ml libre_culture](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_culture)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
          - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
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        > Never acknowledged in any serious way by the mainstream media, Signal’s origins as a US government asset are a matter of extensive public record, even if the scope and scale of the funding provided has until now been secret. The app, brainchild of shadowy tech guru ‘Moxie Marlinspike’ (real name Matthew Rosenfeld), was launched in 2013 by his now-defunct Open Whisper Systems (OWS). The company never published financial statements or disclosed the identities of its funders at any point during its operation.\n
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        > Sums involved in developing, launching and running a messaging app used by countless people globally were nonetheless surely significant. The newly-published financial records indicate Signal’s operating costs for 2023 alone are $40 million, and projected to rise to $50 million by 2025. Rosenfeld boasted in 2018 that OWS “never [took] VC funding or sought investment” at any point, although mysteriously failed to mention millions were provided by Open Technology Fund (OTF).\n
        > \n
        > OTF was launched in 2012 as a pilot program of Radio Free Asia (RFA), an asset of US Agency for Global Media (USAGM), which is funded by US Congress to the tune of over $1 billion annually. In August 2018, its then-CEO openly acknowledged the Agency’s “global priorities…reflect US national security and public diplomacy interests.”\n
        > \n
        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
        \n
        Archive links:\n
        \n
        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
        - [ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV](https://ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV)
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          - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
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          - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
          - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
          \n
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        > On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat. Unmentioned by Whittaker, this budget shortfall results in large part due to the US intelligence community, which lavishly financed Signal’s creation and maintenance over several years, severing its support for the app.\n
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        > Never acknowledged in any serious way by the mainstream media, Signal’s origins as a US government asset are a matter of extensive public record, even if the scope and scale of the funding provided has until now been secret. The app, brainchild of shadowy tech guru ‘Moxie Marlinspike’ (real name Matthew Rosenfeld), was launched in 2013 by his now-defunct Open Whisper Systems (OWS). The company never published financial statements or disclosed the identities of its funders at any point during its operation.\n
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        > Sums involved in developing, launching and running a messaging app used by countless people globally were nonetheless surely significant. The newly-published financial records indicate Signal’s operating costs for 2023 alone are $40 million, and projected to rise to $50 million by 2025. Rosenfeld boasted in 2018 that OWS “never [took] VC funding or sought investment” at any point, although mysteriously failed to mention millions were provided by Open Technology Fund (OTF).\n
        > \n
        > OTF was launched in 2012 as a pilot program of Radio Free Asia (RFA), an asset of US Agency for Global Media (USAGM), which is funded by US Congress to the tune of over $1 billion annually. In August 2018, its then-CEO openly acknowledged the Agency’s “global priorities…reflect US national security and public diplomacy interests.”\n
        > \n
        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
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        > On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat. Unmentioned by Whittaker, this budget shortfall results in large part due to the US intelligence community, which lavishly financed Signal’s creation and maintenance over several years, severing its support for the app.\n
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        > Never acknowledged in any serious way by the mainstream media, Signal’s origins as a US government asset are a matter of extensive public record, even if the scope and scale of the funding provided has until now been secret. The app, brainchild of shadowy tech guru ‘Moxie Marlinspike’ (real name Matthew Rosenfeld), was launched in 2013 by his now-defunct Open Whisper Systems (OWS). The company never published financial statements or disclosed the identities of its funders at any point during its operation.\n
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        > Sums involved in developing, launching and running a messaging app used by countless people globally were nonetheless surely significant. The newly-published financial records indicate Signal’s operating costs for 2023 alone are $40 million, and projected to rise to $50 million by 2025. Rosenfeld boasted in 2018 that OWS “never [took] VC funding or sought investment” at any point, although mysteriously failed to mention millions were provided by Open Technology Fund (OTF).\n
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        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
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        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
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        > On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat. Unmentioned by Whittaker, this budget shortfall results in large part due to the US intelligence community, which lavishly financed Signal’s creation and maintenance over several years, severing its support for the app.\n
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        > Never acknowledged in any serious way by the mainstream media, Signal’s origins as a US government asset are a matter of extensive public record, even if the scope and scale of the funding provided has until now been secret. The app, brainchild of shadowy tech guru ‘Moxie Marlinspike’ (real name Matthew Rosenfeld), was launched in 2013 by his now-defunct Open Whisper Systems (OWS). The company never published financial statements or disclosed the identities of its funders at any point during its operation.\n
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        > Sums involved in developing, launching and running a messaging app used by countless people globally were nonetheless surely significant. The newly-published financial records indicate Signal’s operating costs for 2023 alone are $40 million, and projected to rise to $50 million by 2025. Rosenfeld boasted in 2018 that OWS “never [took] VC funding or sought investment” at any point, although mysteriously failed to mention millions were provided by Open Technology Fund (OTF).\n
        > \n
        > OTF was launched in 2012 as a pilot program of Radio Free Asia (RFA), an asset of US Agency for Global Media (USAGM), which is funded by US Congress to the tune of over $1 billion annually. In August 2018, its then-CEO openly acknowledged the Agency’s “global priorities…reflect US national security and public diplomacy interests.”\n
        > \n
        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
        \n
        Archive links:\n
        \n
        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
        - [ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV](https://ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV)
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          - [Lemmy.ml libre_culture](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_culture)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
          - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
          \n
          ### Chat rooms\n
          \n
          - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
          - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
          \n
          much thanks to @gary_host_laptop for the logo design :)
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        > On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat. Unmentioned by Whittaker, this budget shortfall results in large part due to the US intelligence community, which lavishly financed Signal’s creation and maintenance over several years, severing its support for the app.\n
        > \n
        > Never acknowledged in any serious way by the mainstream media, Signal’s origins as a US government asset are a matter of extensive public record, even if the scope and scale of the funding provided has until now been secret. The app, brainchild of shadowy tech guru ‘Moxie Marlinspike’ (real name Matthew Rosenfeld), was launched in 2013 by his now-defunct Open Whisper Systems (OWS). The company never published financial statements or disclosed the identities of its funders at any point during its operation.\n
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        > Sums involved in developing, launching and running a messaging app used by countless people globally were nonetheless surely significant. The newly-published financial records indicate Signal’s operating costs for 2023 alone are $40 million, and projected to rise to $50 million by 2025. Rosenfeld boasted in 2018 that OWS “never [took] VC funding or sought investment” at any point, although mysteriously failed to mention millions were provided by Open Technology Fund (OTF).\n
        > \n
        > OTF was launched in 2012 as a pilot program of Radio Free Asia (RFA), an asset of US Agency for Global Media (USAGM), which is funded by US Congress to the tune of over $1 billion annually. In August 2018, its then-CEO openly acknowledged the Agency’s “global priorities…reflect US national security and public diplomacy interests.”\n
        > \n
        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
        \n
        Archive links:\n
        \n
        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
        - [ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV](https://ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV)
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          - [Lemmy.ml libre_culture](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_culture)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
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          ### Chat rooms\n
          \n
          - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
          - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
          \n
          much thanks to @gary_host_laptop for the logo design :)
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        > On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat. Unmentioned by Whittaker, this budget shortfall results in large part due to the US intelligence community, which lavishly financed Signal’s creation and maintenance over several years, severing its support for the app.\n
        > \n
        > Never acknowledged in any serious way by the mainstream media, Signal’s origins as a US government asset are a matter of extensive public record, even if the scope and scale of the funding provided has until now been secret. The app, brainchild of shadowy tech guru ‘Moxie Marlinspike’ (real name Matthew Rosenfeld), was launched in 2013 by his now-defunct Open Whisper Systems (OWS). The company never published financial statements or disclosed the identities of its funders at any point during its operation.\n
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        > Sums involved in developing, launching and running a messaging app used by countless people globally were nonetheless surely significant. The newly-published financial records indicate Signal’s operating costs for 2023 alone are $40 million, and projected to rise to $50 million by 2025. Rosenfeld boasted in 2018 that OWS “never [took] VC funding or sought investment” at any point, although mysteriously failed to mention millions were provided by Open Technology Fund (OTF).\n
        > \n
        > OTF was launched in 2012 as a pilot program of Radio Free Asia (RFA), an asset of US Agency for Global Media (USAGM), which is funded by US Congress to the tune of over $1 billion annually. In August 2018, its then-CEO openly acknowledged the Agency’s “global priorities…reflect US national security and public diplomacy interests.”\n
        > \n
        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
        \n
        Archive links:\n
        \n
        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
        - [ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV](https://ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV)
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          ### Related communities\n
          \n
          - [Lemmy.ml libre_culture](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_culture)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
          - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
          \n
          ### Chat rooms\n
          \n
          - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
          - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
          \n
          much thanks to @gary_host_laptop for the logo design :)
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        > On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat. Unmentioned by Whittaker, this budget shortfall results in large part due to the US intelligence community, which lavishly financed Signal’s creation and maintenance over several years, severing its support for the app.\n
        > \n
        > Never acknowledged in any serious way by the mainstream media, Signal’s origins as a US government asset are a matter of extensive public record, even if the scope and scale of the funding provided has until now been secret. The app, brainchild of shadowy tech guru ‘Moxie Marlinspike’ (real name Matthew Rosenfeld), was launched in 2013 by his now-defunct Open Whisper Systems (OWS). The company never published financial statements or disclosed the identities of its funders at any point during its operation.\n
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        > Sums involved in developing, launching and running a messaging app used by countless people globally were nonetheless surely significant. The newly-published financial records indicate Signal’s operating costs for 2023 alone are $40 million, and projected to rise to $50 million by 2025. Rosenfeld boasted in 2018 that OWS “never [took] VC funding or sought investment” at any point, although mysteriously failed to mention millions were provided by Open Technology Fund (OTF).\n
        > \n
        > OTF was launched in 2012 as a pilot program of Radio Free Asia (RFA), an asset of US Agency for Global Media (USAGM), which is funded by US Congress to the tune of over $1 billion annually. In August 2018, its then-CEO openly acknowledged the Agency’s “global priorities…reflect US national security and public diplomacy interests.”\n
        > \n
        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
        \n
        Archive links:\n
        \n
        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
        - [ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV](https://ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV)
        """
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          - [Lemmy.ml libre_culture](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_culture)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
          - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
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          ### Chat rooms\n
          \n
          - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
          - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
          \n
          much thanks to @gary_host_laptop for the logo design :)
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        > On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat. Unmentioned by Whittaker, this budget shortfall results in large part due to the US intelligence community, which lavishly financed Signal’s creation and maintenance over several years, severing its support for the app.\n
        > \n
        > Never acknowledged in any serious way by the mainstream media, Signal’s origins as a US government asset are a matter of extensive public record, even if the scope and scale of the funding provided has until now been secret. The app, brainchild of shadowy tech guru ‘Moxie Marlinspike’ (real name Matthew Rosenfeld), was launched in 2013 by his now-defunct Open Whisper Systems (OWS). The company never published financial statements or disclosed the identities of its funders at any point during its operation.\n
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        > Sums involved in developing, launching and running a messaging app used by countless people globally were nonetheless surely significant. The newly-published financial records indicate Signal’s operating costs for 2023 alone are $40 million, and projected to rise to $50 million by 2025. Rosenfeld boasted in 2018 that OWS “never [took] VC funding or sought investment” at any point, although mysteriously failed to mention millions were provided by Open Technology Fund (OTF).\n
        > \n
        > OTF was launched in 2012 as a pilot program of Radio Free Asia (RFA), an asset of US Agency for Global Media (USAGM), which is funded by US Congress to the tune of over $1 billion annually. In August 2018, its then-CEO openly acknowledged the Agency’s “global priorities…reflect US national security and public diplomacy interests.”\n
        > \n
        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
        \n
        Archive links:\n
        \n
        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
        - [ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV](https://ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV)
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        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
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        Archive links:\n
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        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
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          \n
          - [Lemmy.ml libre_culture](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_culture)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
          - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
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          ### Chat rooms\n
          \n
          - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
          - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
          \n
          much thanks to @gary_host_laptop for the logo design :)
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        > On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat. Unmentioned by Whittaker, this budget shortfall results in large part due to the US intelligence community, which lavishly financed Signal’s creation and maintenance over several years, severing its support for the app.\n
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        > Never acknowledged in any serious way by the mainstream media, Signal’s origins as a US government asset are a matter of extensive public record, even if the scope and scale of the funding provided has until now been secret. The app, brainchild of shadowy tech guru ‘Moxie Marlinspike’ (real name Matthew Rosenfeld), was launched in 2013 by his now-defunct Open Whisper Systems (OWS). The company never published financial statements or disclosed the identities of its funders at any point during its operation.\n
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        > Sums involved in developing, launching and running a messaging app used by countless people globally were nonetheless surely significant. The newly-published financial records indicate Signal’s operating costs for 2023 alone are $40 million, and projected to rise to $50 million by 2025. Rosenfeld boasted in 2018 that OWS “never [took] VC funding or sought investment” at any point, although mysteriously failed to mention millions were provided by Open Technology Fund (OTF).\n
        > \n
        > OTF was launched in 2012 as a pilot program of Radio Free Asia (RFA), an asset of US Agency for Global Media (USAGM), which is funded by US Congress to the tune of over $1 billion annually. In August 2018, its then-CEO openly acknowledged the Agency’s “global priorities…reflect US national security and public diplomacy interests.”\n
        > \n
        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
        \n
        Archive links:\n
        \n
        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
        - [ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV](https://ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV)
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          ### Related communities\n
          \n
          - [Lemmy.ml libre_culture](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_culture)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
          - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
          \n
          ### Chat rooms\n
          \n
          - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
          - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
          \n
          much thanks to @gary_host_laptop for the logo design :)
          """
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        > On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat. Unmentioned by Whittaker, this budget shortfall results in large part due to the US intelligence community, which lavishly financed Signal’s creation and maintenance over several years, severing its support for the app.\n
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        > Never acknowledged in any serious way by the mainstream media, Signal’s origins as a US government asset are a matter of extensive public record, even if the scope and scale of the funding provided has until now been secret. The app, brainchild of shadowy tech guru ‘Moxie Marlinspike’ (real name Matthew Rosenfeld), was launched in 2013 by his now-defunct Open Whisper Systems (OWS). The company never published financial statements or disclosed the identities of its funders at any point during its operation.\n
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        > Sums involved in developing, launching and running a messaging app used by countless people globally were nonetheless surely significant. The newly-published financial records indicate Signal’s operating costs for 2023 alone are $40 million, and projected to rise to $50 million by 2025. Rosenfeld boasted in 2018 that OWS “never [took] VC funding or sought investment” at any point, although mysteriously failed to mention millions were provided by Open Technology Fund (OTF).\n
        > \n
        > OTF was launched in 2012 as a pilot program of Radio Free Asia (RFA), an asset of US Agency for Global Media (USAGM), which is funded by US Congress to the tune of over $1 billion annually. In August 2018, its then-CEO openly acknowledged the Agency’s “global priorities…reflect US national security and public diplomacy interests.”\n
        > \n
        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
        \n
        Archive links:\n
        \n
        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
        - [ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV](https://ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV)
        """
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          - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
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          - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
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        > On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat. Unmentioned by Whittaker, this budget shortfall results in large part due to the US intelligence community, which lavishly financed Signal’s creation and maintenance over several years, severing its support for the app.\n
        > \n
        > Never acknowledged in any serious way by the mainstream media, Signal’s origins as a US government asset are a matter of extensive public record, even if the scope and scale of the funding provided has until now been secret. The app, brainchild of shadowy tech guru ‘Moxie Marlinspike’ (real name Matthew Rosenfeld), was launched in 2013 by his now-defunct Open Whisper Systems (OWS). The company never published financial statements or disclosed the identities of its funders at any point during its operation.\n
        > \n
        > Sums involved in developing, launching and running a messaging app used by countless people globally were nonetheless surely significant. The newly-published financial records indicate Signal’s operating costs for 2023 alone are $40 million, and projected to rise to $50 million by 2025. Rosenfeld boasted in 2018 that OWS “never [took] VC funding or sought investment” at any point, although mysteriously failed to mention millions were provided by Open Technology Fund (OTF).\n
        > \n
        > OTF was launched in 2012 as a pilot program of Radio Free Asia (RFA), an asset of US Agency for Global Media (USAGM), which is funded by US Congress to the tune of over $1 billion annually. In August 2018, its then-CEO openly acknowledged the Agency’s “global priorities…reflect US national security and public diplomacy interests.”\n
        > \n
        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
        \n
        Archive links:\n
        \n
        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
        - [ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV](https://ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV)
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          ### Related communities\n
          \n
          - [Lemmy.ml libre_culture](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_culture)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
          - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
          \n
          ### Chat rooms\n
          \n
          - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
          - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
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        > On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat. Unmentioned by Whittaker, this budget shortfall results in large part due to the US intelligence community, which lavishly financed Signal’s creation and maintenance over several years, severing its support for the app.\n
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        > Never acknowledged in any serious way by the mainstream media, Signal’s origins as a US government asset are a matter of extensive public record, even if the scope and scale of the funding provided has until now been secret. The app, brainchild of shadowy tech guru ‘Moxie Marlinspike’ (real name Matthew Rosenfeld), was launched in 2013 by his now-defunct Open Whisper Systems (OWS). The company never published financial statements or disclosed the identities of its funders at any point during its operation.\n
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        > \n
        > OTF was launched in 2012 as a pilot program of Radio Free Asia (RFA), an asset of US Agency for Global Media (USAGM), which is funded by US Congress to the tune of over $1 billion annually. In August 2018, its then-CEO openly acknowledged the Agency’s “global priorities…reflect US national security and public diplomacy interests.”\n
        > \n
        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
        \n
        Archive links:\n
        \n
        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
        - [ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV](https://ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV)
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          \n
          - [Lemmy.ml libre_culture](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_culture)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
          - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
          \n
          ### Chat rooms\n
          \n
          - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
          - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
          \n
          much thanks to @gary_host_laptop for the logo design :)
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        > On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat. Unmentioned by Whittaker, this budget shortfall results in large part due to the US intelligence community, which lavishly financed Signal’s creation and maintenance over several years, severing its support for the app.\n
        > \n
        > Never acknowledged in any serious way by the mainstream media, Signal’s origins as a US government asset are a matter of extensive public record, even if the scope and scale of the funding provided has until now been secret. The app, brainchild of shadowy tech guru ‘Moxie Marlinspike’ (real name Matthew Rosenfeld), was launched in 2013 by his now-defunct Open Whisper Systems (OWS). The company never published financial statements or disclosed the identities of its funders at any point during its operation.\n
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        > Sums involved in developing, launching and running a messaging app used by countless people globally were nonetheless surely significant. The newly-published financial records indicate Signal’s operating costs for 2023 alone are $40 million, and projected to rise to $50 million by 2025. Rosenfeld boasted in 2018 that OWS “never [took] VC funding or sought investment” at any point, although mysteriously failed to mention millions were provided by Open Technology Fund (OTF).\n
        > \n
        > OTF was launched in 2012 as a pilot program of Radio Free Asia (RFA), an asset of US Agency for Global Media (USAGM), which is funded by US Congress to the tune of over $1 billion annually. In August 2018, its then-CEO openly acknowledged the Agency’s “global priorities…reflect US national security and public diplomacy interests.”\n
        > \n
        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
        \n
        Archive links:\n
        \n
        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
        - [ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV](https://ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV)
        """
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          - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
          - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
          \n
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        > On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat. Unmentioned by Whittaker, this budget shortfall results in large part due to the US intelligence community, which lavishly financed Signal’s creation and maintenance over several years, severing its support for the app.\n
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        > Never acknowledged in any serious way by the mainstream media, Signal’s origins as a US government asset are a matter of extensive public record, even if the scope and scale of the funding provided has until now been secret. The app, brainchild of shadowy tech guru ‘Moxie Marlinspike’ (real name Matthew Rosenfeld), was launched in 2013 by his now-defunct Open Whisper Systems (OWS). The company never published financial statements or disclosed the identities of its funders at any point during its operation.\n
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        > Sums involved in developing, launching and running a messaging app used by countless people globally were nonetheless surely significant. The newly-published financial records indicate Signal’s operating costs for 2023 alone are $40 million, and projected to rise to $50 million by 2025. Rosenfeld boasted in 2018 that OWS “never [took] VC funding or sought investment” at any point, although mysteriously failed to mention millions were provided by Open Technology Fund (OTF).\n
        > \n
        > OTF was launched in 2012 as a pilot program of Radio Free Asia (RFA), an asset of US Agency for Global Media (USAGM), which is funded by US Congress to the tune of over $1 billion annually. In August 2018, its then-CEO openly acknowledged the Agency’s “global priorities…reflect US national security and public diplomacy interests.”\n
        > \n
        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
        \n
        Archive links:\n
        \n
        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
        - [ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV](https://ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV)
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          ### Related communities\n
          \n
          - [Lemmy.ml libre_culture](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_culture)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
          - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
          \n
          ### Chat rooms\n
          \n
          - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
          - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
          \n
          much thanks to @gary_host_laptop for the logo design :)
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        > On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat. Unmentioned by Whittaker, this budget shortfall results in large part due to the US intelligence community, which lavishly financed Signal’s creation and maintenance over several years, severing its support for the app.\n
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        > Never acknowledged in any serious way by the mainstream media, Signal’s origins as a US government asset are a matter of extensive public record, even if the scope and scale of the funding provided has until now been secret. The app, brainchild of shadowy tech guru ‘Moxie Marlinspike’ (real name Matthew Rosenfeld), was launched in 2013 by his now-defunct Open Whisper Systems (OWS). The company never published financial statements or disclosed the identities of its funders at any point during its operation.\n
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        > Sums involved in developing, launching and running a messaging app used by countless people globally were nonetheless surely significant. The newly-published financial records indicate Signal’s operating costs for 2023 alone are $40 million, and projected to rise to $50 million by 2025. Rosenfeld boasted in 2018 that OWS “never [took] VC funding or sought investment” at any point, although mysteriously failed to mention millions were provided by Open Technology Fund (OTF).\n
        > \n
        > OTF was launched in 2012 as a pilot program of Radio Free Asia (RFA), an asset of US Agency for Global Media (USAGM), which is funded by US Congress to the tune of over $1 billion annually. In August 2018, its then-CEO openly acknowledged the Agency’s “global priorities…reflect US national security and public diplomacy interests.”\n
        > \n
        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
        \n
        Archive links:\n
        \n
        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
        - [ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV](https://ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV)
        """
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          ### Related communities\n
          \n
          - [Lemmy.ml libre_culture](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_culture)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
          - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
          \n
          ### Chat rooms\n
          \n
          - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
          - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
          \n
          much thanks to @gary_host_laptop for the logo design :)
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        > On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat. Unmentioned by Whittaker, this budget shortfall results in large part due to the US intelligence community, which lavishly financed Signal’s creation and maintenance over several years, severing its support for the app.\n
        > \n
        > Never acknowledged in any serious way by the mainstream media, Signal’s origins as a US government asset are a matter of extensive public record, even if the scope and scale of the funding provided has until now been secret. The app, brainchild of shadowy tech guru ‘Moxie Marlinspike’ (real name Matthew Rosenfeld), was launched in 2013 by his now-defunct Open Whisper Systems (OWS). The company never published financial statements or disclosed the identities of its funders at any point during its operation.\n
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        > Sums involved in developing, launching and running a messaging app used by countless people globally were nonetheless surely significant. The newly-published financial records indicate Signal’s operating costs for 2023 alone are $40 million, and projected to rise to $50 million by 2025. Rosenfeld boasted in 2018 that OWS “never [took] VC funding or sought investment” at any point, although mysteriously failed to mention millions were provided by Open Technology Fund (OTF).\n
        > \n
        > OTF was launched in 2012 as a pilot program of Radio Free Asia (RFA), an asset of US Agency for Global Media (USAGM), which is funded by US Congress to the tune of over $1 billion annually. In August 2018, its then-CEO openly acknowledged the Agency’s “global priorities…reflect US national security and public diplomacy interests.”\n
        > \n
        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
        \n
        Archive links:\n
        \n
        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
        - [ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV](https://ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV)
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      Bruce Schneier is also probably just a conspiracy theorist, when he writes in 2014:\n
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      "By the way, the Register noted that Whisper Systems (along with Tor and several other privacy projects) received $450,000 from Radio Free Asia – which is pretty much an official State Department / CIA propaganda organ, isn’t it? How exactly does this work as a coherent national security strategy, when State is funding ‘privacy’ while NSA is funding eavesdropping? [opentechfund.org/…/otf2013annualreportfinal.pdf](https://www.opentechfund.org/sites/default/files/attachments/otf2013annualreportfinal.pdf)"\n
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      [www.schneier.com/blog/…/whatsapp_is_now.html](https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2014/11/whatsapp_is_now.html)\n
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      oh and that linked annual report of the OTF, like the following ones, doesn’t seem to be online anymore… :))\n
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          ### Related communities\n
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          - [Lemmy.ml libre_culture](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_culture)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
          - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
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          ### Chat rooms\n
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          - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
          - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
          \n
          much thanks to @gary_host_laptop for the logo design :)
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        > On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat. Unmentioned by Whittaker, this budget shortfall results in large part due to the US intelligence community, which lavishly financed Signal’s creation and maintenance over several years, severing its support for the app.\n
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        > Never acknowledged in any serious way by the mainstream media, Signal’s origins as a US government asset are a matter of extensive public record, even if the scope and scale of the funding provided has until now been secret. The app, brainchild of shadowy tech guru ‘Moxie Marlinspike’ (real name Matthew Rosenfeld), was launched in 2013 by his now-defunct Open Whisper Systems (OWS). The company never published financial statements or disclosed the identities of its funders at any point during its operation.\n
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        > Sums involved in developing, launching and running a messaging app used by countless people globally were nonetheless surely significant. The newly-published financial records indicate Signal’s operating costs for 2023 alone are $40 million, and projected to rise to $50 million by 2025. Rosenfeld boasted in 2018 that OWS “never [took] VC funding or sought investment” at any point, although mysteriously failed to mention millions were provided by Open Technology Fund (OTF).\n
        > \n
        > OTF was launched in 2012 as a pilot program of Radio Free Asia (RFA), an asset of US Agency for Global Media (USAGM), which is funded by US Congress to the tune of over $1 billion annually. In August 2018, its then-CEO openly acknowledged the Agency’s “global priorities…reflect US national security and public diplomacy interests.”\n
        > \n
        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
        \n
        Archive links:\n
        \n
        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
        - [ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV](https://ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV)
        """
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      Bruce Schneier is also probably just a conspiracy theorist, when he writes in 2014:\n
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          ============================================================\n
          \n
          Privacy has become a very important issue in modern society, with companies and governments constantly abusing their power, more and more people are waking up to the importance of digital privacy.\n
          \n
          In this community everyone is welcome to post links and discuss topics related to privacy.\n
          \n
          ### Some Rules\n
          \n
          - Posting a link to a website containing tracking isn’t great, if contents of the website are behind a paywall maybe copy them into the post\n
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          \n
          ### Related communities\n
          \n
          - [Lemmy.ml libre_culture](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_culture)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
          - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
          \n
          ### Chat rooms\n
          \n
          - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
          - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
          \n
          much thanks to @gary_host_laptop for the logo design :)
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        > On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat. Unmentioned by Whittaker, this budget shortfall results in large part due to the US intelligence community, which lavishly financed Signal’s creation and maintenance over several years, severing its support for the app.\n
        > \n
        > Never acknowledged in any serious way by the mainstream media, Signal’s origins as a US government asset are a matter of extensive public record, even if the scope and scale of the funding provided has until now been secret. The app, brainchild of shadowy tech guru ‘Moxie Marlinspike’ (real name Matthew Rosenfeld), was launched in 2013 by his now-defunct Open Whisper Systems (OWS). The company never published financial statements or disclosed the identities of its funders at any point during its operation.\n
        > \n
        > Sums involved in developing, launching and running a messaging app used by countless people globally were nonetheless surely significant. The newly-published financial records indicate Signal’s operating costs for 2023 alone are $40 million, and projected to rise to $50 million by 2025. Rosenfeld boasted in 2018 that OWS “never [took] VC funding or sought investment” at any point, although mysteriously failed to mention millions were provided by Open Technology Fund (OTF).\n
        > \n
        > OTF was launched in 2012 as a pilot program of Radio Free Asia (RFA), an asset of US Agency for Global Media (USAGM), which is funded by US Congress to the tune of over $1 billion annually. In August 2018, its then-CEO openly acknowledged the Agency’s “global priorities…reflect US national security and public diplomacy interests.”\n
        > \n
        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
        \n
        Archive links:\n
        \n
        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
        - [ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV](https://ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV)
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      Bruce Schneier is also probably just a conspiracy theorist, when he writes in 2014:\n
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      [www.schneier.com/blog/…/whatsapp_is_now.html](https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2014/11/whatsapp_is_now.html)\n
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          - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
          \n
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        > On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat. Unmentioned by Whittaker, this budget shortfall results in large part due to the US intelligence community, which lavishly financed Signal’s creation and maintenance over several years, severing its support for the app.\n
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        > Never acknowledged in any serious way by the mainstream media, Signal’s origins as a US government asset are a matter of extensive public record, even if the scope and scale of the funding provided has until now been secret. The app, brainchild of shadowy tech guru ‘Moxie Marlinspike’ (real name Matthew Rosenfeld), was launched in 2013 by his now-defunct Open Whisper Systems (OWS). The company never published financial statements or disclosed the identities of its funders at any point during its operation.\n
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        > \n
        > OTF was launched in 2012 as a pilot program of Radio Free Asia (RFA), an asset of US Agency for Global Media (USAGM), which is funded by US Congress to the tune of over $1 billion annually. In August 2018, its then-CEO openly acknowledged the Agency’s “global priorities…reflect US national security and public diplomacy interests.”\n
        > \n
        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
        \n
        Archive links:\n
        \n
        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
        - [ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV](https://ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV)
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      Bruce Schneier is also probably just a conspiracy theorist, when he writes in 2014:\n
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          A place to discuss privacy and freedom in the digital world.\n
          ============================================================\n
          \n
          Privacy has become a very important issue in modern society, with companies and governments constantly abusing their power, more and more people are waking up to the importance of digital privacy.\n
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          In this community everyone is welcome to post links and discuss topics related to privacy.\n
          \n
          ### Some Rules\n
          \n
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          - Be nice :)\n
          \n
          ### Related communities\n
          \n
          - [Lemmy.ml libre_culture](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_culture)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
          - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
          \n
          ### Chat rooms\n
          \n
          - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
          - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
          \n
          much thanks to @gary_host_laptop for the logo design :)
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        > On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat. Unmentioned by Whittaker, this budget shortfall results in large part due to the US intelligence community, which lavishly financed Signal’s creation and maintenance over several years, severing its support for the app.\n
        > \n
        > Never acknowledged in any serious way by the mainstream media, Signal’s origins as a US government asset are a matter of extensive public record, even if the scope and scale of the funding provided has until now been secret. The app, brainchild of shadowy tech guru ‘Moxie Marlinspike’ (real name Matthew Rosenfeld), was launched in 2013 by his now-defunct Open Whisper Systems (OWS). The company never published financial statements or disclosed the identities of its funders at any point during its operation.\n
        > \n
        > Sums involved in developing, launching and running a messaging app used by countless people globally were nonetheless surely significant. The newly-published financial records indicate Signal’s operating costs for 2023 alone are $40 million, and projected to rise to $50 million by 2025. Rosenfeld boasted in 2018 that OWS “never [took] VC funding or sought investment” at any point, although mysteriously failed to mention millions were provided by Open Technology Fund (OTF).\n
        > \n
        > OTF was launched in 2012 as a pilot program of Radio Free Asia (RFA), an asset of US Agency for Global Media (USAGM), which is funded by US Congress to the tune of over $1 billion annually. In August 2018, its then-CEO openly acknowledged the Agency’s “global priorities…reflect US national security and public diplomacy interests.”\n
        > \n
        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
        \n
        Archive links:\n
        \n
        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
        - [ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV](https://ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV)
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      Bruce Schneier is also probably just a conspiracy theorist, when he writes in 2014:\n
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        > On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat. Unmentioned by Whittaker, this budget shortfall results in large part due to the US intelligence community, which lavishly financed Signal’s creation and maintenance over several years, severing its support for the app.\n
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        > Never acknowledged in any serious way by the mainstream media, Signal’s origins as a US government asset are a matter of extensive public record, even if the scope and scale of the funding provided has until now been secret. The app, brainchild of shadowy tech guru ‘Moxie Marlinspike’ (real name Matthew Rosenfeld), was launched in 2013 by his now-defunct Open Whisper Systems (OWS). The company never published financial statements or disclosed the identities of its funders at any point during its operation.\n
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        > Sums involved in developing, launching and running a messaging app used by countless people globally were nonetheless surely significant. The newly-published financial records indicate Signal’s operating costs for 2023 alone are $40 million, and projected to rise to $50 million by 2025. Rosenfeld boasted in 2018 that OWS “never [took] VC funding or sought investment” at any point, although mysteriously failed to mention millions were provided by Open Technology Fund (OTF).\n
        > \n
        > OTF was launched in 2012 as a pilot program of Radio Free Asia (RFA), an asset of US Agency for Global Media (USAGM), which is funded by US Congress to the tune of over $1 billion annually. In August 2018, its then-CEO openly acknowledged the Agency’s “global priorities…reflect US national security and public diplomacy interests.”\n
        > \n
        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
        \n
        Archive links:\n
        \n
        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
        - [ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV](https://ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV)
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            US government: “Make us an app that people can use to subvert suppressive regimes.”\n
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      Bruce Schneier is also probably just a conspiracy theorist, when he writes in 2014:\n
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          A place to discuss privacy and freedom in the digital world.\n
          ============================================================\n
          \n
          Privacy has become a very important issue in modern society, with companies and governments constantly abusing their power, more and more people are waking up to the importance of digital privacy.\n
          \n
          In this community everyone is welcome to post links and discuss topics related to privacy.\n
          \n
          ### Some Rules\n
          \n
          - Posting a link to a website containing tracking isn’t great, if contents of the website are behind a paywall maybe copy them into the post\n
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          - Try to keep things on topic\n
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          - Be nice :)\n
          \n
          ### Related communities\n
          \n
          - [Lemmy.ml libre_culture](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_culture)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
          - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
          \n
          ### Chat rooms\n
          \n
          - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
          - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
          \n
          much thanks to @gary_host_laptop for the logo design :)
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        > On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat. Unmentioned by Whittaker, this budget shortfall results in large part due to the US intelligence community, which lavishly financed Signal’s creation and maintenance over several years, severing its support for the app.\n
        > \n
        > Never acknowledged in any serious way by the mainstream media, Signal’s origins as a US government asset are a matter of extensive public record, even if the scope and scale of the funding provided has until now been secret. The app, brainchild of shadowy tech guru ‘Moxie Marlinspike’ (real name Matthew Rosenfeld), was launched in 2013 by his now-defunct Open Whisper Systems (OWS). The company never published financial statements or disclosed the identities of its funders at any point during its operation.\n
        > \n
        > Sums involved in developing, launching and running a messaging app used by countless people globally were nonetheless surely significant. The newly-published financial records indicate Signal’s operating costs for 2023 alone are $40 million, and projected to rise to $50 million by 2025. Rosenfeld boasted in 2018 that OWS “never [took] VC funding or sought investment” at any point, although mysteriously failed to mention millions were provided by Open Technology Fund (OTF).\n
        > \n
        > OTF was launched in 2012 as a pilot program of Radio Free Asia (RFA), an asset of US Agency for Global Media (USAGM), which is funded by US Congress to the tune of over $1 billion annually. In August 2018, its then-CEO openly acknowledged the Agency’s “global priorities…reflect US national security and public diplomacy interests.”\n
        > \n
        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
        \n
        Archive links:\n
        \n
        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
        - [ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV](https://ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV)
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      Bruce Schneier is also probably just a conspiracy theorist, when he writes in 2014:\n
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        > On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat. Unmentioned by Whittaker, this budget shortfall results in large part due to the US intelligence community, which lavishly financed Signal’s creation and maintenance over several years, severing its support for the app.\n
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        > Never acknowledged in any serious way by the mainstream media, Signal’s origins as a US government asset are a matter of extensive public record, even if the scope and scale of the funding provided has until now been secret. The app, brainchild of shadowy tech guru ‘Moxie Marlinspike’ (real name Matthew Rosenfeld), was launched in 2013 by his now-defunct Open Whisper Systems (OWS). The company never published financial statements or disclosed the identities of its funders at any point during its operation.\n
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        > Sums involved in developing, launching and running a messaging app used by countless people globally were nonetheless surely significant. The newly-published financial records indicate Signal’s operating costs for 2023 alone are $40 million, and projected to rise to $50 million by 2025. Rosenfeld boasted in 2018 that OWS “never [took] VC funding or sought investment” at any point, although mysteriously failed to mention millions were provided by Open Technology Fund (OTF).\n
        > \n
        > OTF was launched in 2012 as a pilot program of Radio Free Asia (RFA), an asset of US Agency for Global Media (USAGM), which is funded by US Congress to the tune of over $1 billion annually. In August 2018, its then-CEO openly acknowledged the Agency’s “global priorities…reflect US national security and public diplomacy interests.”\n
        > \n
        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
        \n
        Archive links:\n
        \n
        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
        - [ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV](https://ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV)
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      Bruce Schneier is also probably just a conspiracy theorist, when he writes in 2014:\n
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          ### Related communities\n
          \n
          - [Lemmy.ml libre_culture](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_culture)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
          - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
          \n
          ### Chat rooms\n
          \n
          - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
          - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
          \n
          much thanks to @gary_host_laptop for the logo design :)
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        > On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat. Unmentioned by Whittaker, this budget shortfall results in large part due to the US intelligence community, which lavishly financed Signal’s creation and maintenance over several years, severing its support for the app.\n
        > \n
        > Never acknowledged in any serious way by the mainstream media, Signal’s origins as a US government asset are a matter of extensive public record, even if the scope and scale of the funding provided has until now been secret. The app, brainchild of shadowy tech guru ‘Moxie Marlinspike’ (real name Matthew Rosenfeld), was launched in 2013 by his now-defunct Open Whisper Systems (OWS). The company never published financial statements or disclosed the identities of its funders at any point during its operation.\n
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        > Sums involved in developing, launching and running a messaging app used by countless people globally were nonetheless surely significant. The newly-published financial records indicate Signal’s operating costs for 2023 alone are $40 million, and projected to rise to $50 million by 2025. Rosenfeld boasted in 2018 that OWS “never [took] VC funding or sought investment” at any point, although mysteriously failed to mention millions were provided by Open Technology Fund (OTF).\n
        > \n
        > OTF was launched in 2012 as a pilot program of Radio Free Asia (RFA), an asset of US Agency for Global Media (USAGM), which is funded by US Congress to the tune of over $1 billion annually. In August 2018, its then-CEO openly acknowledged the Agency’s “global priorities…reflect US national security and public diplomacy interests.”\n
        > \n
        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
        \n
        Archive links:\n
        \n
        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
        - [ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV](https://ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV)
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        Bruce Schneier is also probably just a conspiracy theorist, when he writes in 2014:\n
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        "By the way, the Register noted that Whisper Systems (along with Tor and several other privacy projects) received $450,000 from Radio Free Asia – which is pretty much an official State Department / CIA propaganda organ, isn’t it? How exactly does this work as a coherent national security strategy, when State is funding ‘privacy’ while NSA is funding eavesdropping? [opentechfund.org/…/otf2013annualreportfinal.pdf](https://www.opentechfund.org/sites/default/files/attachments/otf2013annualreportfinal.pdf)"\n
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        [www.schneier.com/blog/…/whatsapp_is_now.html](https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2014/11/whatsapp_is_now.html)\n
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          ### Chat rooms\n
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          - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
          - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
          \n
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        > On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat. Unmentioned by Whittaker, this budget shortfall results in large part due to the US intelligence community, which lavishly financed Signal’s creation and maintenance over several years, severing its support for the app.\n
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        > Sums involved in developing, launching and running a messaging app used by countless people globally were nonetheless surely significant. The newly-published financial records indicate Signal’s operating costs for 2023 alone are $40 million, and projected to rise to $50 million by 2025. Rosenfeld boasted in 2018 that OWS “never [took] VC funding or sought investment” at any point, although mysteriously failed to mention millions were provided by Open Technology Fund (OTF).\n
        > \n
        > OTF was launched in 2012 as a pilot program of Radio Free Asia (RFA), an asset of US Agency for Global Media (USAGM), which is funded by US Congress to the tune of over $1 billion annually. In August 2018, its then-CEO openly acknowledged the Agency’s “global priorities…reflect US national security and public diplomacy interests.”\n
        > \n
        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
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        Archive links:\n
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        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
        - [ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV](https://ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV)
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          A place to discuss privacy and freedom in the digital world.\n
          ============================================================\n
          \n
          Privacy has become a very important issue in modern society, with companies and governments constantly abusing their power, more and more people are waking up to the importance of digital privacy.\n
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          In this community everyone is welcome to post links and discuss topics related to privacy.\n
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          ### Some Rules\n
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          - Don’t promote proprietary software\n
          - Try to keep things on topic\n
          - If you have a question, please try searching for previous discussions, maybe it has already been answered\n
          - Reposts are fine, but should have at least a couple of weeks in between so that the post can reach a new audience\n
          - Be nice :)\n
          \n
          ### Related communities\n
          \n
          - [Lemmy.ml libre_culture](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_culture)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
          - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
          \n
          ### Chat rooms\n
          \n
          - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
          - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
          \n
          much thanks to @gary_host_laptop for the logo design :)
          """
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        > On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat. Unmentioned by Whittaker, this budget shortfall results in large part due to the US intelligence community, which lavishly financed Signal’s creation and maintenance over several years, severing its support for the app.\n
        > \n
        > Never acknowledged in any serious way by the mainstream media, Signal’s origins as a US government asset are a matter of extensive public record, even if the scope and scale of the funding provided has until now been secret. The app, brainchild of shadowy tech guru ‘Moxie Marlinspike’ (real name Matthew Rosenfeld), was launched in 2013 by his now-defunct Open Whisper Systems (OWS). The company never published financial statements or disclosed the identities of its funders at any point during its operation.\n
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        > Sums involved in developing, launching and running a messaging app used by countless people globally were nonetheless surely significant. The newly-published financial records indicate Signal’s operating costs for 2023 alone are $40 million, and projected to rise to $50 million by 2025. Rosenfeld boasted in 2018 that OWS “never [took] VC funding or sought investment” at any point, although mysteriously failed to mention millions were provided by Open Technology Fund (OTF).\n
        > \n
        > OTF was launched in 2012 as a pilot program of Radio Free Asia (RFA), an asset of US Agency for Global Media (USAGM), which is funded by US Congress to the tune of over $1 billion annually. In August 2018, its then-CEO openly acknowledged the Agency’s “global priorities…reflect US national security and public diplomacy interests.”\n
        > \n
        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
        \n
        Archive links:\n
        \n
        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
        - [ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV](https://ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV)
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        Bruce Schneier is also probably just a conspiracy theorist, when he writes in 2014:\n
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          - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
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        > On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat. Unmentioned by Whittaker, this budget shortfall results in large part due to the US intelligence community, which lavishly financed Signal’s creation and maintenance over several years, severing its support for the app.\n
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        > Never acknowledged in any serious way by the mainstream media, Signal’s origins as a US government asset are a matter of extensive public record, even if the scope and scale of the funding provided has until now been secret. The app, brainchild of shadowy tech guru ‘Moxie Marlinspike’ (real name Matthew Rosenfeld), was launched in 2013 by his now-defunct Open Whisper Systems (OWS). The company never published financial statements or disclosed the identities of its funders at any point during its operation.\n
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        > Sums involved in developing, launching and running a messaging app used by countless people globally were nonetheless surely significant. The newly-published financial records indicate Signal’s operating costs for 2023 alone are $40 million, and projected to rise to $50 million by 2025. Rosenfeld boasted in 2018 that OWS “never [took] VC funding or sought investment” at any point, although mysteriously failed to mention millions were provided by Open Technology Fund (OTF).\n
        > \n
        > OTF was launched in 2012 as a pilot program of Radio Free Asia (RFA), an asset of US Agency for Global Media (USAGM), which is funded by US Congress to the tune of over $1 billion annually. In August 2018, its then-CEO openly acknowledged the Agency’s “global priorities…reflect US national security and public diplomacy interests.”\n
        > \n
        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
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        Archive links:\n
        \n
        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
        - [ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV](https://ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV)
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        Bruce Schneier is also probably just a conspiracy theorist, when he writes in 2014:\n
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          ### Related communities\n
          \n
          - [Lemmy.ml libre_culture](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_culture)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
          - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
          \n
          ### Chat rooms\n
          \n
          - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
          - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
          \n
          much thanks to @gary_host_laptop for the logo design :)
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        > On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat. Unmentioned by Whittaker, this budget shortfall results in large part due to the US intelligence community, which lavishly financed Signal’s creation and maintenance over several years, severing its support for the app.\n
        > \n
        > Never acknowledged in any serious way by the mainstream media, Signal’s origins as a US government asset are a matter of extensive public record, even if the scope and scale of the funding provided has until now been secret. The app, brainchild of shadowy tech guru ‘Moxie Marlinspike’ (real name Matthew Rosenfeld), was launched in 2013 by his now-defunct Open Whisper Systems (OWS). The company never published financial statements or disclosed the identities of its funders at any point during its operation.\n
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        > Sums involved in developing, launching and running a messaging app used by countless people globally were nonetheless surely significant. The newly-published financial records indicate Signal’s operating costs for 2023 alone are $40 million, and projected to rise to $50 million by 2025. Rosenfeld boasted in 2018 that OWS “never [took] VC funding or sought investment” at any point, although mysteriously failed to mention millions were provided by Open Technology Fund (OTF).\n
        > \n
        > OTF was launched in 2012 as a pilot program of Radio Free Asia (RFA), an asset of US Agency for Global Media (USAGM), which is funded by US Congress to the tune of over $1 billion annually. In August 2018, its then-CEO openly acknowledged the Agency’s “global priorities…reflect US national security and public diplomacy interests.”\n
        > \n
        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
        \n
        Archive links:\n
        \n
        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
        - [ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV](https://ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV)
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          Bruce Schneier is also probably just a conspiracy theorist, when he writes in 2014:\n
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          [www.schneier.com/blog/…/whatsapp_is_now.html](https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2014/11/whatsapp_is_now.html)\n
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          - [Lemmy.ml libre_culture](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_culture)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
          - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
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          ### Chat rooms\n
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          - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
          - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
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          much thanks to @gary_host_laptop for the logo design :)
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        > On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat. Unmentioned by Whittaker, this budget shortfall results in large part due to the US intelligence community, which lavishly financed Signal’s creation and maintenance over several years, severing its support for the app.\n
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        > Never acknowledged in any serious way by the mainstream media, Signal’s origins as a US government asset are a matter of extensive public record, even if the scope and scale of the funding provided has until now been secret. The app, brainchild of shadowy tech guru ‘Moxie Marlinspike’ (real name Matthew Rosenfeld), was launched in 2013 by his now-defunct Open Whisper Systems (OWS). The company never published financial statements or disclosed the identities of its funders at any point during its operation.\n
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        > Sums involved in developing, launching and running a messaging app used by countless people globally were nonetheless surely significant. The newly-published financial records indicate Signal’s operating costs for 2023 alone are $40 million, and projected to rise to $50 million by 2025. Rosenfeld boasted in 2018 that OWS “never [took] VC funding or sought investment” at any point, although mysteriously failed to mention millions were provided by Open Technology Fund (OTF).\n
        > \n
        > OTF was launched in 2012 as a pilot program of Radio Free Asia (RFA), an asset of US Agency for Global Media (USAGM), which is funded by US Congress to the tune of over $1 billion annually. In August 2018, its then-CEO openly acknowledged the Agency’s “global priorities…reflect US national security and public diplomacy interests.”\n
        > \n
        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
        \n
        Archive links:\n
        \n
        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
        - [ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV](https://ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV)
        """
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          Bruce Schneier is also probably just a conspiracy theorist, when he writes in 2014:\n
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          ### Related communities\n
          \n
          - [Lemmy.ml libre_culture](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_culture)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
          - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
          \n
          ### Chat rooms\n
          \n
          - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
          - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
          \n
          much thanks to @gary_host_laptop for the logo design :)
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        > On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat. Unmentioned by Whittaker, this budget shortfall results in large part due to the US intelligence community, which lavishly financed Signal’s creation and maintenance over several years, severing its support for the app.\n
        > \n
        > Never acknowledged in any serious way by the mainstream media, Signal’s origins as a US government asset are a matter of extensive public record, even if the scope and scale of the funding provided has until now been secret. The app, brainchild of shadowy tech guru ‘Moxie Marlinspike’ (real name Matthew Rosenfeld), was launched in 2013 by his now-defunct Open Whisper Systems (OWS). The company never published financial statements or disclosed the identities of its funders at any point during its operation.\n
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        > Sums involved in developing, launching and running a messaging app used by countless people globally were nonetheless surely significant. The newly-published financial records indicate Signal’s operating costs for 2023 alone are $40 million, and projected to rise to $50 million by 2025. Rosenfeld boasted in 2018 that OWS “never [took] VC funding or sought investment” at any point, although mysteriously failed to mention millions were provided by Open Technology Fund (OTF).\n
        > \n
        > OTF was launched in 2012 as a pilot program of Radio Free Asia (RFA), an asset of US Agency for Global Media (USAGM), which is funded by US Congress to the tune of over $1 billion annually. In August 2018, its then-CEO openly acknowledged the Agency’s “global priorities…reflect US national security and public diplomacy interests.”\n
        > \n
        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
        \n
        Archive links:\n
        \n
        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
        - [ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV](https://ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV)
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          Bruce Schneier is also probably just a conspiracy theorist, when he writes in 2014:\n
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          "By the way, the Register noted that Whisper Systems (along with Tor and several other privacy projects) received $450,000 from Radio Free Asia – which is pretty much an official State Department / CIA propaganda organ, isn’t it? How exactly does this work as a coherent national security strategy, when State is funding ‘privacy’ while NSA is funding eavesdropping? [opentechfund.org/…/otf2013annualreportfinal.pdf](https://www.opentechfund.org/sites/default/files/attachments/otf2013annualreportfinal.pdf)"\n
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          ### Related communities\n
          \n
          - [Lemmy.ml libre_culture](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_culture)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
          - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
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          ### Chat rooms\n
          \n
          - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
          - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
          \n
          much thanks to @gary_host_laptop for the logo design :)
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        > On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat. Unmentioned by Whittaker, this budget shortfall results in large part due to the US intelligence community, which lavishly financed Signal’s creation and maintenance over several years, severing its support for the app.\n
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        > OTF was launched in 2012 as a pilot program of Radio Free Asia (RFA), an asset of US Agency for Global Media (USAGM), which is funded by US Congress to the tune of over $1 billion annually. In August 2018, its then-CEO openly acknowledged the Agency’s “global priorities…reflect US national security and public diplomacy interests.”\n
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        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
        \n
        Archive links:\n
        \n
        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
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          - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
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          - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
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        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
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        Archive links:\n
        \n
        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
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          \n
          - [Lemmy.ml libre_culture](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_culture)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
          - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
          \n
          ### Chat rooms\n
          \n
          - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
          - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
          \n
          much thanks to @gary_host_laptop for the logo design :)
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        > On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat. Unmentioned by Whittaker, this budget shortfall results in large part due to the US intelligence community, which lavishly financed Signal’s creation and maintenance over several years, severing its support for the app.\n
        > \n
        > Never acknowledged in any serious way by the mainstream media, Signal’s origins as a US government asset are a matter of extensive public record, even if the scope and scale of the funding provided has until now been secret. The app, brainchild of shadowy tech guru ‘Moxie Marlinspike’ (real name Matthew Rosenfeld), was launched in 2013 by his now-defunct Open Whisper Systems (OWS). The company never published financial statements or disclosed the identities of its funders at any point during its operation.\n
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        > Sums involved in developing, launching and running a messaging app used by countless people globally were nonetheless surely significant. The newly-published financial records indicate Signal’s operating costs for 2023 alone are $40 million, and projected to rise to $50 million by 2025. Rosenfeld boasted in 2018 that OWS “never [took] VC funding or sought investment” at any point, although mysteriously failed to mention millions were provided by Open Technology Fund (OTF).\n
        > \n
        > OTF was launched in 2012 as a pilot program of Radio Free Asia (RFA), an asset of US Agency for Global Media (USAGM), which is funded by US Congress to the tune of over $1 billion annually. In August 2018, its then-CEO openly acknowledged the Agency’s “global priorities…reflect US national security and public diplomacy interests.”\n
        > \n
        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
        \n
        Archive links:\n
        \n
        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
        - [ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV](https://ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV)
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          Bruce Schneier is also probably just a conspiracy theorist, when he writes in 2014:\n
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          "By the way, the Register noted that Whisper Systems (along with Tor and several other privacy projects) received $450,000 from Radio Free Asia – which is pretty much an official State Department / CIA propaganda organ, isn’t it? How exactly does this work as a coherent national security strategy, when State is funding ‘privacy’ while NSA is funding eavesdropping? [opentechfund.org/…/otf2013annualreportfinal.pdf](https://www.opentechfund.org/sites/default/files/attachments/otf2013annualreportfinal.pdf)"\n
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          [www.schneier.com/blog/…/whatsapp_is_now.html](https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2014/11/whatsapp_is_now.html)\n
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      You’re right! I don’t know either.\n
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      The facts remain, though.
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          - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
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          - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
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        > On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat. Unmentioned by Whittaker, this budget shortfall results in large part due to the US intelligence community, which lavishly financed Signal’s creation and maintenance over several years, severing its support for the app.\n
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        > Never acknowledged in any serious way by the mainstream media, Signal’s origins as a US government asset are a matter of extensive public record, even if the scope and scale of the funding provided has until now been secret. The app, brainchild of shadowy tech guru ‘Moxie Marlinspike’ (real name Matthew Rosenfeld), was launched in 2013 by his now-defunct Open Whisper Systems (OWS). The company never published financial statements or disclosed the identities of its funders at any point during its operation.\n
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        > Sums involved in developing, launching and running a messaging app used by countless people globally were nonetheless surely significant. The newly-published financial records indicate Signal’s operating costs for 2023 alone are $40 million, and projected to rise to $50 million by 2025. Rosenfeld boasted in 2018 that OWS “never [took] VC funding or sought investment” at any point, although mysteriously failed to mention millions were provided by Open Technology Fund (OTF).\n
        > \n
        > OTF was launched in 2012 as a pilot program of Radio Free Asia (RFA), an asset of US Agency for Global Media (USAGM), which is funded by US Congress to the tune of over $1 billion annually. In August 2018, its then-CEO openly acknowledged the Agency’s “global priorities…reflect US national security and public diplomacy interests.”\n
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        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
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        Archive links:\n
        \n
        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
        - [ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV](https://ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV)
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          \n
          - [Lemmy.ml libre_culture](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_culture)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
          - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
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          ### Chat rooms\n
          \n
          - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
          - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
          \n
          much thanks to @gary_host_laptop for the logo design :)
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        > On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat. Unmentioned by Whittaker, this budget shortfall results in large part due to the US intelligence community, which lavishly financed Signal’s creation and maintenance over several years, severing its support for the app.\n
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        > Never acknowledged in any serious way by the mainstream media, Signal’s origins as a US government asset are a matter of extensive public record, even if the scope and scale of the funding provided has until now been secret. The app, brainchild of shadowy tech guru ‘Moxie Marlinspike’ (real name Matthew Rosenfeld), was launched in 2013 by his now-defunct Open Whisper Systems (OWS). The company never published financial statements or disclosed the identities of its funders at any point during its operation.\n
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        > Sums involved in developing, launching and running a messaging app used by countless people globally were nonetheless surely significant. The newly-published financial records indicate Signal’s operating costs for 2023 alone are $40 million, and projected to rise to $50 million by 2025. Rosenfeld boasted in 2018 that OWS “never [took] VC funding or sought investment” at any point, although mysteriously failed to mention millions were provided by Open Technology Fund (OTF).\n
        > \n
        > OTF was launched in 2012 as a pilot program of Radio Free Asia (RFA), an asset of US Agency for Global Media (USAGM), which is funded by US Congress to the tune of over $1 billion annually. In August 2018, its then-CEO openly acknowledged the Agency’s “global priorities…reflect US national security and public diplomacy interests.”\n
        > \n
        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
        \n
        Archive links:\n
        \n
        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
        - [ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV](https://ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV)
        """
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          Bruce Schneier is also probably just a conspiracy theorist, when he writes in 2014:\n
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      You’re right! I don’t know either.\n
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          - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
          - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
          \n
          ### Chat rooms\n
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          - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
          - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
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          much thanks to @gary_host_laptop for the logo design :)
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        > On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat. Unmentioned by Whittaker, this budget shortfall results in large part due to the US intelligence community, which lavishly financed Signal’s creation and maintenance over several years, severing its support for the app.\n
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        > Sums involved in developing, launching and running a messaging app used by countless people globally were nonetheless surely significant. The newly-published financial records indicate Signal’s operating costs for 2023 alone are $40 million, and projected to rise to $50 million by 2025. Rosenfeld boasted in 2018 that OWS “never [took] VC funding or sought investment” at any point, although mysteriously failed to mention millions were provided by Open Technology Fund (OTF).\n
        > \n
        > OTF was launched in 2012 as a pilot program of Radio Free Asia (RFA), an asset of US Agency for Global Media (USAGM), which is funded by US Congress to the tune of over $1 billion annually. In August 2018, its then-CEO openly acknowledged the Agency’s “global priorities…reflect US national security and public diplomacy interests.”\n
        > \n
        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
        \n
        Archive links:\n
        \n
        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
        - [ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV](https://ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV)
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          - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
          - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
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          - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
          - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
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        > On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat. Unmentioned by Whittaker, this budget shortfall results in large part due to the US intelligence community, which lavishly financed Signal’s creation and maintenance over several years, severing its support for the app.\n
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        > Never acknowledged in any serious way by the mainstream media, Signal’s origins as a US government asset are a matter of extensive public record, even if the scope and scale of the funding provided has until now been secret. The app, brainchild of shadowy tech guru ‘Moxie Marlinspike’ (real name Matthew Rosenfeld), was launched in 2013 by his now-defunct Open Whisper Systems (OWS). The company never published financial statements or disclosed the identities of its funders at any point during its operation.\n
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        > \n
        > OTF was launched in 2012 as a pilot program of Radio Free Asia (RFA), an asset of US Agency for Global Media (USAGM), which is funded by US Congress to the tune of over $1 billion annually. In August 2018, its then-CEO openly acknowledged the Agency’s “global priorities…reflect US national security and public diplomacy interests.”\n
        > \n
        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
        \n
        Archive links:\n
        \n
        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
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      > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
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      > On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat. Unmentioned by Whittaker, this budget shortfall results in large part due to the US intelligence community, which lavishly financed Signal’s creation and maintenance over several years, severing its support for the app.\n
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      > Never acknowledged in any serious way by the mainstream media, Signal’s origins as a US government asset are a matter of extensive public record, even if the scope and scale of the funding provided has until now been secret. The app, brainchild of shadowy tech guru ‘Moxie Marlinspike’ (real name Matthew Rosenfeld), was launched in 2013 by his now-defunct Open Whisper Systems (OWS). The company never published financial statements or disclosed the identities of its funders at any point during its operation.\n
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      > Sums involved in developing, launching and running a messaging app used by countless people globally were nonetheless surely significant. The newly-published financial records indicate Signal’s operating costs for 2023 alone are $40 million, and projected to rise to $50 million by 2025. Rosenfeld boasted in 2018 that OWS “never [took] VC funding or sought investment” at any point, although mysteriously failed to mention millions were provided by Open Technology Fund (OTF).\n
      > \n
      > OTF was launched in 2012 as a pilot program of Radio Free Asia (RFA), an asset of US Agency for Global Media (USAGM), which is funded by US Congress to the tune of over $1 billion annually. In August 2018, its then-CEO openly acknowledged the Agency’s “global priorities…reflect US national security and public diplomacy interests.”\n
      > \n
      > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
      \n
      Archive links:\n
      \n
      - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
      - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
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          \n
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          - [Lemmy.ml libre_culture](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_culture)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
          - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
          \n
          ### Chat rooms\n
          \n
          - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
          - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
          \n
          much thanks to @gary_host_laptop for the logo design :)
          """
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        > On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat. Unmentioned by Whittaker, this budget shortfall results in large part due to the US intelligence community, which lavishly financed Signal’s creation and maintenance over several years, severing its support for the app.\n
        > \n
        > Never acknowledged in any serious way by the mainstream media, Signal’s origins as a US government asset are a matter of extensive public record, even if the scope and scale of the funding provided has until now been secret. The app, brainchild of shadowy tech guru ‘Moxie Marlinspike’ (real name Matthew Rosenfeld), was launched in 2013 by his now-defunct Open Whisper Systems (OWS). The company never published financial statements or disclosed the identities of its funders at any point during its operation.\n
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        > Sums involved in developing, launching and running a messaging app used by countless people globally were nonetheless surely significant. The newly-published financial records indicate Signal’s operating costs for 2023 alone are $40 million, and projected to rise to $50 million by 2025. Rosenfeld boasted in 2018 that OWS “never [took] VC funding or sought investment” at any point, although mysteriously failed to mention millions were provided by Open Technology Fund (OTF).\n
        > \n
        > OTF was launched in 2012 as a pilot program of Radio Free Asia (RFA), an asset of US Agency for Global Media (USAGM), which is funded by US Congress to the tune of over $1 billion annually. In August 2018, its then-CEO openly acknowledged the Agency’s “global priorities…reflect US national security and public diplomacy interests.”\n
        > \n
        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
        \n
        Archive links:\n
        \n
        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
        - [ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV](https://ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV)
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          ============================================================\n
          \n
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          \n
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          \n
          ### Some Rules\n
          \n
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          - Don’t promote proprietary software\n
          - Try to keep things on topic\n
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          \n
          ### Related communities\n
          \n
          - [Lemmy.ml libre_culture](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_culture)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
          - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
          \n
          ### Chat rooms\n
          \n
          - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
          - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
          \n
          much thanks to @gary_host_laptop for the logo design :)
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        > \n
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        > \n
        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
        \n
        Archive links:\n
        \n
        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
        - [ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV](https://ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV)
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        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
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        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
        - [ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV](https://ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV)
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        > Never acknowledged in any serious way by the mainstream media, Signal’s origins as a US government asset are a matter of extensive public record, even if the scope and scale of the funding provided has until now been secret. The app, brainchild of shadowy tech guru ‘Moxie Marlinspike’ (real name Matthew Rosenfeld), was launched in 2013 by his now-defunct Open Whisper Systems (OWS). The company never published financial statements or disclosed the identities of its funders at any point during its operation.\n
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        > Sums involved in developing, launching and running a messaging app used by countless people globally were nonetheless surely significant. The newly-published financial records indicate Signal’s operating costs for 2023 alone are $40 million, and projected to rise to $50 million by 2025. Rosenfeld boasted in 2018 that OWS “never [took] VC funding or sought investment” at any point, although mysteriously failed to mention millions were provided by Open Technology Fund (OTF).\n
        > \n
        > OTF was launched in 2012 as a pilot program of Radio Free Asia (RFA), an asset of US Agency for Global Media (USAGM), which is funded by US Congress to the tune of over $1 billion annually. In August 2018, its then-CEO openly acknowledged the Agency’s “global priorities…reflect US national security and public diplomacy interests.”\n
        > \n
        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
        \n
        Archive links:\n
        \n
        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
        - [ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV](https://ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV)
        """
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          - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
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        > \n
        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
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        Archive links:\n
        \n
        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
        - [ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV](https://ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV)
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          Privacy has become a very important issue in modern society, with companies and governments constantly abusing their power, more and more people are waking up to the importance of digital privacy.\n
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          \n
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          \n
          - Posting a link to a website containing tracking isn’t great, if contents of the website are behind a paywall maybe copy them into the post\n
          - Don’t promote proprietary software\n
          - Try to keep things on topic\n
          - If you have a question, please try searching for previous discussions, maybe it has already been answered\n
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          \n
          ### Related communities\n
          \n
          - [Lemmy.ml libre_culture](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_culture)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
          - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
          \n
          ### Chat rooms\n
          \n
          - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
          - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
          \n
          much thanks to @gary_host_laptop for the logo design :)
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        > On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat. Unmentioned by Whittaker, this budget shortfall results in large part due to the US intelligence community, which lavishly financed Signal’s creation and maintenance over several years, severing its support for the app.\n
        > \n
        > Never acknowledged in any serious way by the mainstream media, Signal’s origins as a US government asset are a matter of extensive public record, even if the scope and scale of the funding provided has until now been secret. The app, brainchild of shadowy tech guru ‘Moxie Marlinspike’ (real name Matthew Rosenfeld), was launched in 2013 by his now-defunct Open Whisper Systems (OWS). The company never published financial statements or disclosed the identities of its funders at any point during its operation.\n
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        > Sums involved in developing, launching and running a messaging app used by countless people globally were nonetheless surely significant. The newly-published financial records indicate Signal’s operating costs for 2023 alone are $40 million, and projected to rise to $50 million by 2025. Rosenfeld boasted in 2018 that OWS “never [took] VC funding or sought investment” at any point, although mysteriously failed to mention millions were provided by Open Technology Fund (OTF).\n
        > \n
        > OTF was launched in 2012 as a pilot program of Radio Free Asia (RFA), an asset of US Agency for Global Media (USAGM), which is funded by US Congress to the tune of over $1 billion annually. In August 2018, its then-CEO openly acknowledged the Agency’s “global priorities…reflect US national security and public diplomacy interests.”\n
        > \n
        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
        \n
        Archive links:\n
        \n
        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
        - [ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV](https://ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV)
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        Sorry everyone, I did try searching the lemmyverse for any previous postings of this article using “signal” in the search feature on my instance, but it turned up nothing at the time.\n
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        Lemmy.world seems to have a handle on all the cross posts: [lemmy.world/post/9121235](https://lemmy.world/post/9121235)
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          A place to discuss privacy and freedom in the digital world.\n
          ============================================================\n
          \n
          Privacy has become a very important issue in modern society, with companies and governments constantly abusing their power, more and more people are waking up to the importance of digital privacy.\n
          \n
          In this community everyone is welcome to post links and discuss topics related to privacy.\n
          \n
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          ### Related communities\n
          \n
          - [Lemmy.ml libre_culture](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_culture)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
          - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
          \n
          ### Chat rooms\n
          \n
          - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
          - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
          \n
          much thanks to @gary_host_laptop for the logo design :)
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        > On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat. Unmentioned by Whittaker, this budget shortfall results in large part due to the US intelligence community, which lavishly financed Signal’s creation and maintenance over several years, severing its support for the app.\n
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        > Never acknowledged in any serious way by the mainstream media, Signal’s origins as a US government asset are a matter of extensive public record, even if the scope and scale of the funding provided has until now been secret. The app, brainchild of shadowy tech guru ‘Moxie Marlinspike’ (real name Matthew Rosenfeld), was launched in 2013 by his now-defunct Open Whisper Systems (OWS). The company never published financial statements or disclosed the identities of its funders at any point during its operation.\n
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        > Sums involved in developing, launching and running a messaging app used by countless people globally were nonetheless surely significant. The newly-published financial records indicate Signal’s operating costs for 2023 alone are $40 million, and projected to rise to $50 million by 2025. Rosenfeld boasted in 2018 that OWS “never [took] VC funding or sought investment” at any point, although mysteriously failed to mention millions were provided by Open Technology Fund (OTF).\n
        > \n
        > OTF was launched in 2012 as a pilot program of Radio Free Asia (RFA), an asset of US Agency for Global Media (USAGM), which is funded by US Congress to the tune of over $1 billion annually. In August 2018, its then-CEO openly acknowledged the Agency’s “global priorities…reflect US national security and public diplomacy interests.”\n
        > \n
        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
        \n
        Archive links:\n
        \n
        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
        - [ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV](https://ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV)
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      Lemmy.world seems to have a handle on all the cross posts: [lemmy.world/post/9121235](https://lemmy.world/post/9121235)
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          A place to discuss privacy and freedom in the digital world.\n
          ============================================================\n
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          Privacy has become a very important issue in modern society, with companies and governments constantly abusing their power, more and more people are waking up to the importance of digital privacy.\n
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          ### Related communities\n
          \n
          - [Lemmy.ml libre_culture](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_culture)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
          - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
          \n
          ### Chat rooms\n
          \n
          - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
          - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
          \n
          much thanks to @gary_host_laptop for the logo design :)
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        > On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat. Unmentioned by Whittaker, this budget shortfall results in large part due to the US intelligence community, which lavishly financed Signal’s creation and maintenance over several years, severing its support for the app.\n
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        > Never acknowledged in any serious way by the mainstream media, Signal’s origins as a US government asset are a matter of extensive public record, even if the scope and scale of the funding provided has until now been secret. The app, brainchild of shadowy tech guru ‘Moxie Marlinspike’ (real name Matthew Rosenfeld), was launched in 2013 by his now-defunct Open Whisper Systems (OWS). The company never published financial statements or disclosed the identities of its funders at any point during its operation.\n
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        > Sums involved in developing, launching and running a messaging app used by countless people globally were nonetheless surely significant. The newly-published financial records indicate Signal’s operating costs for 2023 alone are $40 million, and projected to rise to $50 million by 2025. Rosenfeld boasted in 2018 that OWS “never [took] VC funding or sought investment” at any point, although mysteriously failed to mention millions were provided by Open Technology Fund (OTF).\n
        > \n
        > OTF was launched in 2012 as a pilot program of Radio Free Asia (RFA), an asset of US Agency for Global Media (USAGM), which is funded by US Congress to the tune of over $1 billion annually. In August 2018, its then-CEO openly acknowledged the Agency’s “global priorities…reflect US national security and public diplomacy interests.”\n
        > \n
        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
        \n
        Archive links:\n
        \n
        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
        - [ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV](https://ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV)
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      Lemmy.world seems to have a handle on all the cross posts: [lemmy.world/post/9121235](https://lemmy.world/post/9121235)
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          ============================================================\n
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          ### Related communities\n
          \n
          - [Lemmy.ml libre_culture](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_culture)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
          - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
          \n
          ### Chat rooms\n
          \n
          - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
          - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
          \n
          much thanks to @gary_host_laptop for the logo design :)
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        > On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat. Unmentioned by Whittaker, this budget shortfall results in large part due to the US intelligence community, which lavishly financed Signal’s creation and maintenance over several years, severing its support for the app.\n
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        > Never acknowledged in any serious way by the mainstream media, Signal’s origins as a US government asset are a matter of extensive public record, even if the scope and scale of the funding provided has until now been secret. The app, brainchild of shadowy tech guru ‘Moxie Marlinspike’ (real name Matthew Rosenfeld), was launched in 2013 by his now-defunct Open Whisper Systems (OWS). The company never published financial statements or disclosed the identities of its funders at any point during its operation.\n
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        > Sums involved in developing, launching and running a messaging app used by countless people globally were nonetheless surely significant. The newly-published financial records indicate Signal’s operating costs for 2023 alone are $40 million, and projected to rise to $50 million by 2025. Rosenfeld boasted in 2018 that OWS “never [took] VC funding or sought investment” at any point, although mysteriously failed to mention millions were provided by Open Technology Fund (OTF).\n
        > \n
        > OTF was launched in 2012 as a pilot program of Radio Free Asia (RFA), an asset of US Agency for Global Media (USAGM), which is funded by US Congress to the tune of over $1 billion annually. In August 2018, its then-CEO openly acknowledged the Agency’s “global priorities…reflect US national security and public diplomacy interests.”\n
        > \n
        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
        \n
        Archive links:\n
        \n
        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
        - [ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV](https://ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV)
        """
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        > On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat. Unmentioned by Whittaker, this budget shortfall results in large part due to the US intelligence community, which lavishly financed Signal’s creation and maintenance over several years, severing its support for the app.\n
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        > \n
        > OTF was launched in 2012 as a pilot program of Radio Free Asia (RFA), an asset of US Agency for Global Media (USAGM), which is funded by US Congress to the tune of over $1 billion annually. In August 2018, its then-CEO openly acknowledged the Agency’s “global priorities…reflect US national security and public diplomacy interests.”\n
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        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
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        Archive links:\n
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        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
        - [ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV](https://ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV)
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        > On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat. Unmentioned by Whittaker, this budget shortfall results in large part due to the US intelligence community, which lavishly financed Signal’s creation and maintenance over several years, severing its support for the app.\n
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        > \n
        > OTF was launched in 2012 as a pilot program of Radio Free Asia (RFA), an asset of US Agency for Global Media (USAGM), which is funded by US Congress to the tune of over $1 billion annually. In August 2018, its then-CEO openly acknowledged the Agency’s “global priorities…reflect US national security and public diplomacy interests.”\n
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        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
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        Archive links:\n
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        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
        - [ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV](https://ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV)
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        > On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat. Unmentioned by Whittaker, this budget shortfall results in large part due to the US intelligence community, which lavishly financed Signal’s creation and maintenance over several years, severing its support for the app.\n
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        > \n
        > OTF was launched in 2012 as a pilot program of Radio Free Asia (RFA), an asset of US Agency for Global Media (USAGM), which is funded by US Congress to the tune of over $1 billion annually. In August 2018, its then-CEO openly acknowledged the Agency’s “global priorities…reflect US national security and public diplomacy interests.”\n
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        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
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        Archive links:\n
        \n
        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
        - [ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV](https://ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV)
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        > On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat. Unmentioned by Whittaker, this budget shortfall results in large part due to the US intelligence community, which lavishly financed Signal’s creation and maintenance over several years, severing its support for the app.\n
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        > \n
        > OTF was launched in 2012 as a pilot program of Radio Free Asia (RFA), an asset of US Agency for Global Media (USAGM), which is funded by US Congress to the tune of over $1 billion annually. In August 2018, its then-CEO openly acknowledged the Agency’s “global priorities…reflect US national security and public diplomacy interests.”\n
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        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
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        Archive links:\n
        \n
        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
        - [ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV](https://ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV)
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        > On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat. Unmentioned by Whittaker, this budget shortfall results in large part due to the US intelligence community, which lavishly financed Signal’s creation and maintenance over several years, severing its support for the app.\n
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        > \n
        > OTF was launched in 2012 as a pilot program of Radio Free Asia (RFA), an asset of US Agency for Global Media (USAGM), which is funded by US Congress to the tune of over $1 billion annually. In August 2018, its then-CEO openly acknowledged the Agency’s “global priorities…reflect US national security and public diplomacy interests.”\n
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        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
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        Archive links:\n
        \n
        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
        - [ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV](https://ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV)
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          - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
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          - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
          - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
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        > \n
        > OTF was launched in 2012 as a pilot program of Radio Free Asia (RFA), an asset of US Agency for Global Media (USAGM), which is funded by US Congress to the tune of over $1 billion annually. In August 2018, its then-CEO openly acknowledged the Agency’s “global priorities…reflect US national security and public diplomacy interests.”\n
        > \n
        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
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        Archive links:\n
        \n
        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
        - [ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV](https://ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV)
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          - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
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        > On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat. Unmentioned by Whittaker, this budget shortfall results in large part due to the US intelligence community, which lavishly financed Signal’s creation and maintenance over several years, severing its support for the app.\n
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        > Never acknowledged in any serious way by the mainstream media, Signal’s origins as a US government asset are a matter of extensive public record, even if the scope and scale of the funding provided has until now been secret. The app, brainchild of shadowy tech guru ‘Moxie Marlinspike’ (real name Matthew Rosenfeld), was launched in 2013 by his now-defunct Open Whisper Systems (OWS). The company never published financial statements or disclosed the identities of its funders at any point during its operation.\n
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        > Sums involved in developing, launching and running a messaging app used by countless people globally were nonetheless surely significant. The newly-published financial records indicate Signal’s operating costs for 2023 alone are $40 million, and projected to rise to $50 million by 2025. Rosenfeld boasted in 2018 that OWS “never [took] VC funding or sought investment” at any point, although mysteriously failed to mention millions were provided by Open Technology Fund (OTF).\n
        > \n
        > OTF was launched in 2012 as a pilot program of Radio Free Asia (RFA), an asset of US Agency for Global Media (USAGM), which is funded by US Congress to the tune of over $1 billion annually. In August 2018, its then-CEO openly acknowledged the Agency’s “global priorities…reflect US national security and public diplomacy interests.”\n
        > \n
        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
        \n
        Archive links:\n
        \n
        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
        - [ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV](https://ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV)
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      > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
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      - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
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        > \n
        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
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        Archive links:\n
        \n
        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
        - [ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV](https://ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV)
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          - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
          - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
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        > On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat. Unmentioned by Whittaker, this budget shortfall results in large part due to the US intelligence community, which lavishly financed Signal’s creation and maintenance over several years, severing its support for the app.\n
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        > Never acknowledged in any serious way by the mainstream media, Signal’s origins as a US government asset are a matter of extensive public record, even if the scope and scale of the funding provided has until now been secret. The app, brainchild of shadowy tech guru ‘Moxie Marlinspike’ (real name Matthew Rosenfeld), was launched in 2013 by his now-defunct Open Whisper Systems (OWS). The company never published financial statements or disclosed the identities of its funders at any point during its operation.\n
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        > Sums involved in developing, launching and running a messaging app used by countless people globally were nonetheless surely significant. The newly-published financial records indicate Signal’s operating costs for 2023 alone are $40 million, and projected to rise to $50 million by 2025. Rosenfeld boasted in 2018 that OWS “never [took] VC funding or sought investment” at any point, although mysteriously failed to mention millions were provided by Open Technology Fund (OTF).\n
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        > OTF was launched in 2012 as a pilot program of Radio Free Asia (RFA), an asset of US Agency for Global Media (USAGM), which is funded by US Congress to the tune of over $1 billion annually. In August 2018, its then-CEO openly acknowledged the Agency’s “global priorities…reflect US national security and public diplomacy interests.”\n
        > \n
        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
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        Archive links:\n
        \n
        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
        - [ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV](https://ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV)
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        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
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        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
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        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
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          \n
          - [Lemmy.ml libre_culture](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_culture)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
          - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
          \n
          ### Chat rooms\n
          \n
          - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
          - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
          \n
          much thanks to @gary_host_laptop for the logo design :)
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        > On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat. Unmentioned by Whittaker, this budget shortfall results in large part due to the US intelligence community, which lavishly financed Signal’s creation and maintenance over several years, severing its support for the app.\n
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        > \n
        > OTF was launched in 2012 as a pilot program of Radio Free Asia (RFA), an asset of US Agency for Global Media (USAGM), which is funded by US Congress to the tune of over $1 billion annually. In August 2018, its then-CEO openly acknowledged the Agency’s “global priorities…reflect US national security and public diplomacy interests.”\n
        > \n
        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
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        Archive links:\n
        \n
        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
        - [ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV](https://ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV)
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          \n
          - [Lemmy.ml libre_culture](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_culture)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
          - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
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          ### Chat rooms\n
          \n
          - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
          - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
          \n
          much thanks to @gary_host_laptop for the logo design :)
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        > OTF was launched in 2012 as a pilot program of Radio Free Asia (RFA), an asset of US Agency for Global Media (USAGM), which is funded by US Congress to the tune of over $1 billion annually. In August 2018, its then-CEO openly acknowledged the Agency’s “global priorities…reflect US national security and public diplomacy interests.”\n
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        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
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        Archive links:\n
        \n
        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
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          A place to discuss privacy and freedom in the digital world.\n
          ============================================================\n
          \n
          Privacy has become a very important issue in modern society, with companies and governments constantly abusing their power, more and more people are waking up to the importance of digital privacy.\n
          \n
          In this community everyone is welcome to post links and discuss topics related to privacy.\n
          \n
          ### Some Rules\n
          \n
          - Posting a link to a website containing tracking isn’t great, if contents of the website are behind a paywall maybe copy them into the post\n
          - Don’t promote proprietary software\n
          - Try to keep things on topic\n
          - If you have a question, please try searching for previous discussions, maybe it has already been answered\n
          - Reposts are fine, but should have at least a couple of weeks in between so that the post can reach a new audience\n
          - Be nice :)\n
          \n
          ### Related communities\n
          \n
          - [Lemmy.ml libre_culture](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_culture)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
          - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
          \n
          ### Chat rooms\n
          \n
          - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
          - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
          \n
          much thanks to @gary_host_laptop for the logo design :)
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        > On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat. Unmentioned by Whittaker, this budget shortfall results in large part due to the US intelligence community, which lavishly financed Signal’s creation and maintenance over several years, severing its support for the app.\n
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        > Never acknowledged in any serious way by the mainstream media, Signal’s origins as a US government asset are a matter of extensive public record, even if the scope and scale of the funding provided has until now been secret. The app, brainchild of shadowy tech guru ‘Moxie Marlinspike’ (real name Matthew Rosenfeld), was launched in 2013 by his now-defunct Open Whisper Systems (OWS). The company never published financial statements or disclosed the identities of its funders at any point during its operation.\n
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        > Sums involved in developing, launching and running a messaging app used by countless people globally were nonetheless surely significant. The newly-published financial records indicate Signal’s operating costs for 2023 alone are $40 million, and projected to rise to $50 million by 2025. Rosenfeld boasted in 2018 that OWS “never [took] VC funding or sought investment” at any point, although mysteriously failed to mention millions were provided by Open Technology Fund (OTF).\n
        > \n
        > OTF was launched in 2012 as a pilot program of Radio Free Asia (RFA), an asset of US Agency for Global Media (USAGM), which is funded by US Congress to the tune of over $1 billion annually. In August 2018, its then-CEO openly acknowledged the Agency’s “global priorities…reflect US national security and public diplomacy interests.”\n
        > \n
        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
        \n
        Archive links:\n
        \n
        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
        - [ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV](https://ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV)
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      - It doesn’t mention that Signal Foundation president Meredith Whittaker worked at Google for over a decade, and co-founded a department there that worked alongside OTF on various internet freedom projects (and was later on the OTF advisory board herself)\n
      - it doesn’t mention the salient properties of Signal which actually make it particularly beneficial to US interests (keeping the communications of privacy-desiring people associated with their *phone numbers* while concentrating their [metadata](https://lemmy.ml/comment/5882433) on Amazon servers)
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          ============================================================\n
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          Privacy has become a very important issue in modern society, with companies and governments constantly abusing their power, more and more people are waking up to the importance of digital privacy.\n
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          - Don’t promote proprietary software\n
          - Try to keep things on topic\n
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          - Reposts are fine, but should have at least a couple of weeks in between so that the post can reach a new audience\n
          - Be nice :)\n
          \n
          ### Related communities\n
          \n
          - [Lemmy.ml libre_culture](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_culture)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
          - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
          \n
          ### Chat rooms\n
          \n
          - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
          - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
          \n
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        > On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat. Unmentioned by Whittaker, this budget shortfall results in large part due to the US intelligence community, which lavishly financed Signal’s creation and maintenance over several years, severing its support for the app.\n
        > \n
        > Never acknowledged in any serious way by the mainstream media, Signal’s origins as a US government asset are a matter of extensive public record, even if the scope and scale of the funding provided has until now been secret. The app, brainchild of shadowy tech guru ‘Moxie Marlinspike’ (real name Matthew Rosenfeld), was launched in 2013 by his now-defunct Open Whisper Systems (OWS). The company never published financial statements or disclosed the identities of its funders at any point during its operation.\n
        > \n
        > Sums involved in developing, launching and running a messaging app used by countless people globally were nonetheless surely significant. The newly-published financial records indicate Signal’s operating costs for 2023 alone are $40 million, and projected to rise to $50 million by 2025. Rosenfeld boasted in 2018 that OWS “never [took] VC funding or sought investment” at any point, although mysteriously failed to mention millions were provided by Open Technology Fund (OTF).\n
        > \n
        > OTF was launched in 2012 as a pilot program of Radio Free Asia (RFA), an asset of US Agency for Global Media (USAGM), which is funded by US Congress to the tune of over $1 billion annually. In August 2018, its then-CEO openly acknowledged the Agency’s “global priorities…reflect US national security and public diplomacy interests.”\n
        > \n
        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
        \n
        Archive links:\n
        \n
        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
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      - I don’t think Signal has actually received money from OTF (Radio Free Asia) since 2015 or so; if it needed any today it would likely get it from one of the less transparent US government internet freedom funding vehicles. There is no indication they are “facing collapse” beyond a blog post talking about their expenses and soliciting donations.\n
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      - it doesn’t mention the salient properties of Signal which actually make it particularly beneficial to US interests (keeping the communications of privacy-desiring people associated with their *phone numbers* while concentrating their [metadata](https://lemmy.ml/comment/5882433) on Amazon servers)
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        \n
        - [Lemmy.ml libre_culture](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_culture)\n
        - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
        - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
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        \n
        - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
        - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
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      > On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat. Unmentioned by Whittaker, this budget shortfall results in large part due to the US intelligence community, which lavishly financed Signal’s creation and maintenance over several years, severing its support for the app.\n
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      > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
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      Archive links:\n
      \n
      - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
      - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
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          - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
          - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
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          ### Chat rooms\n
          \n
          - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
          - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
          \n
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        > On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat. Unmentioned by Whittaker, this budget shortfall results in large part due to the US intelligence community, which lavishly financed Signal’s creation and maintenance over several years, severing its support for the app.\n
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        > Never acknowledged in any serious way by the mainstream media, Signal’s origins as a US government asset are a matter of extensive public record, even if the scope and scale of the funding provided has until now been secret. The app, brainchild of shadowy tech guru ‘Moxie Marlinspike’ (real name Matthew Rosenfeld), was launched in 2013 by his now-defunct Open Whisper Systems (OWS). The company never published financial statements or disclosed the identities of its funders at any point during its operation.\n
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        > Sums involved in developing, launching and running a messaging app used by countless people globally were nonetheless surely significant. The newly-published financial records indicate Signal’s operating costs for 2023 alone are $40 million, and projected to rise to $50 million by 2025. Rosenfeld boasted in 2018 that OWS “never [took] VC funding or sought investment” at any point, although mysteriously failed to mention millions were provided by Open Technology Fund (OTF).\n
        > \n
        > OTF was launched in 2012 as a pilot program of Radio Free Asia (RFA), an asset of US Agency for Global Media (USAGM), which is funded by US Congress to the tune of over $1 billion annually. In August 2018, its then-CEO openly acknowledged the Agency’s “global priorities…reflect US national security and public diplomacy interests.”\n
        > \n
        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
        \n
        Archive links:\n
        \n
        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
        - [ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV](https://ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV)
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      - it doesn’t mention the salient properties of Signal which actually make it particularly beneficial to US interests (keeping the communications of privacy-desiring people associated with their *phone numbers* while concentrating their [metadata](https://lemmy.ml/comment/5882433) on Amazon servers)
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          - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
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          - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
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          \n
          - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
          - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
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        > On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat. Unmentioned by Whittaker, this budget shortfall results in large part due to the US intelligence community, which lavishly financed Signal’s creation and maintenance over several years, severing its support for the app.\n
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        > \n
        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
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        Archive links:\n
        \n
        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
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      - it doesn’t mention the salient properties of Signal which actually make it particularly beneficial to US interests (keeping the communications of privacy-desiring people associated with their *phone numbers* while concentrating their [metadata](https://lemmy.ml/comment/5882433) on Amazon servers)
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          - [Lemmy.ml libre_culture](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_culture)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
          - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
          \n
          ### Chat rooms\n
          \n
          - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
          - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
          \n
          much thanks to @gary_host_laptop for the logo design :)
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        > On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat. Unmentioned by Whittaker, this budget shortfall results in large part due to the US intelligence community, which lavishly financed Signal’s creation and maintenance over several years, severing its support for the app.\n
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        > Never acknowledged in any serious way by the mainstream media, Signal’s origins as a US government asset are a matter of extensive public record, even if the scope and scale of the funding provided has until now been secret. The app, brainchild of shadowy tech guru ‘Moxie Marlinspike’ (real name Matthew Rosenfeld), was launched in 2013 by his now-defunct Open Whisper Systems (OWS). The company never published financial statements or disclosed the identities of its funders at any point during its operation.\n
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        > Sums involved in developing, launching and running a messaging app used by countless people globally were nonetheless surely significant. The newly-published financial records indicate Signal’s operating costs for 2023 alone are $40 million, and projected to rise to $50 million by 2025. Rosenfeld boasted in 2018 that OWS “never [took] VC funding or sought investment” at any point, although mysteriously failed to mention millions were provided by Open Technology Fund (OTF).\n
        > \n
        > OTF was launched in 2012 as a pilot program of Radio Free Asia (RFA), an asset of US Agency for Global Media (USAGM), which is funded by US Congress to the tune of over $1 billion annually. In August 2018, its then-CEO openly acknowledged the Agency’s “global priorities…reflect US national security and public diplomacy interests.”\n
        > \n
        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
        \n
        Archive links:\n
        \n
        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
        - [ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV](https://ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV)
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      - it doesn’t mention the salient properties of Signal which actually make it particularly beneficial to US interests (keeping the communications of privacy-desiring people associated with their *phone numbers* while concentrating their [metadata](https://lemmy.ml/comment/5882433) on Amazon servers)
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          Privacy has become a very important issue in modern society, with companies and governments constantly abusing their power, more and more people are waking up to the importance of digital privacy.\n
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          ### Related communities\n
          \n
          - [Lemmy.ml libre_culture](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_culture)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
          - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
          \n
          ### Chat rooms\n
          \n
          - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
          - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
          \n
          much thanks to @gary_host_laptop for the logo design :)
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        > On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat. Unmentioned by Whittaker, this budget shortfall results in large part due to the US intelligence community, which lavishly financed Signal’s creation and maintenance over several years, severing its support for the app.\n
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        > Never acknowledged in any serious way by the mainstream media, Signal’s origins as a US government asset are a matter of extensive public record, even if the scope and scale of the funding provided has until now been secret. The app, brainchild of shadowy tech guru ‘Moxie Marlinspike’ (real name Matthew Rosenfeld), was launched in 2013 by his now-defunct Open Whisper Systems (OWS). The company never published financial statements or disclosed the identities of its funders at any point during its operation.\n
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        > Sums involved in developing, launching and running a messaging app used by countless people globally were nonetheless surely significant. The newly-published financial records indicate Signal’s operating costs for 2023 alone are $40 million, and projected to rise to $50 million by 2025. Rosenfeld boasted in 2018 that OWS “never [took] VC funding or sought investment” at any point, although mysteriously failed to mention millions were provided by Open Technology Fund (OTF).\n
        > \n
        > OTF was launched in 2012 as a pilot program of Radio Free Asia (RFA), an asset of US Agency for Global Media (USAGM), which is funded by US Congress to the tune of over $1 billion annually. In August 2018, its then-CEO openly acknowledged the Agency’s “global priorities…reflect US national security and public diplomacy interests.”\n
        > \n
        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
        \n
        Archive links:\n
        \n
        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
        - [ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV](https://ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV)
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      - it doesn’t mention the salient properties of Signal which actually make it particularly beneficial to US interests (keeping the communications of privacy-desiring people associated with their *phone numbers* while concentrating their [metadata](https://lemmy.ml/comment/5882433) on Amazon servers)
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          Privacy has become a very important issue in modern society, with companies and governments constantly abusing their power, more and more people are waking up to the importance of digital privacy.\n
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          - [Lemmy.ml libre_culture](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_culture)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
          - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
          \n
          ### Chat rooms\n
          \n
          - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
          - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
          \n
          much thanks to @gary_host_laptop for the logo design :)
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        > On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat. Unmentioned by Whittaker, this budget shortfall results in large part due to the US intelligence community, which lavishly financed Signal’s creation and maintenance over several years, severing its support for the app.\n
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        > Never acknowledged in any serious way by the mainstream media, Signal’s origins as a US government asset are a matter of extensive public record, even if the scope and scale of the funding provided has until now been secret. The app, brainchild of shadowy tech guru ‘Moxie Marlinspike’ (real name Matthew Rosenfeld), was launched in 2013 by his now-defunct Open Whisper Systems (OWS). The company never published financial statements or disclosed the identities of its funders at any point during its operation.\n
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        > Sums involved in developing, launching and running a messaging app used by countless people globally were nonetheless surely significant. The newly-published financial records indicate Signal’s operating costs for 2023 alone are $40 million, and projected to rise to $50 million by 2025. Rosenfeld boasted in 2018 that OWS “never [took] VC funding or sought investment” at any point, although mysteriously failed to mention millions were provided by Open Technology Fund (OTF).\n
        > \n
        > OTF was launched in 2012 as a pilot program of Radio Free Asia (RFA), an asset of US Agency for Global Media (USAGM), which is funded by US Congress to the tune of over $1 billion annually. In August 2018, its then-CEO openly acknowledged the Agency’s “global priorities…reflect US national security and public diplomacy interests.”\n
        > \n
        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
        \n
        Archive links:\n
        \n
        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
        - [ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV](https://ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV)
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      - I don’t think Signal has actually received money from OTF (Radio Free Asia) since 2015 or so; if it needed any today it would likely get it from one of the less transparent US government internet freedom funding vehicles. There is no indication they are “facing collapse” beyond a blog post talking about their expenses and soliciting donations.\n
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      - It doesn’t mention that Signal Foundation president Meredith Whittaker worked at Google for over a decade, and co-founded a department there that worked alongside OTF on various internet freedom projects (and was later on the OTF advisory board herself)\n
      - it doesn’t mention the salient properties of Signal which actually make it particularly beneficial to US interests (keeping the communications of privacy-desiring people associated with their *phone numbers* while concentrating their [metadata](https://lemmy.ml/comment/5882433) on Amazon servers)
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          ### Related communities\n
          \n
          - [Lemmy.ml libre_culture](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_culture)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
          - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
          \n
          ### Chat rooms\n
          \n
          - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
          - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
          \n
          much thanks to @gary_host_laptop for the logo design :)
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        > On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat. Unmentioned by Whittaker, this budget shortfall results in large part due to the US intelligence community, which lavishly financed Signal’s creation and maintenance over several years, severing its support for the app.\n
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        > Never acknowledged in any serious way by the mainstream media, Signal’s origins as a US government asset are a matter of extensive public record, even if the scope and scale of the funding provided has until now been secret. The app, brainchild of shadowy tech guru ‘Moxie Marlinspike’ (real name Matthew Rosenfeld), was launched in 2013 by his now-defunct Open Whisper Systems (OWS). The company never published financial statements or disclosed the identities of its funders at any point during its operation.\n
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        > Sums involved in developing, launching and running a messaging app used by countless people globally were nonetheless surely significant. The newly-published financial records indicate Signal’s operating costs for 2023 alone are $40 million, and projected to rise to $50 million by 2025. Rosenfeld boasted in 2018 that OWS “never [took] VC funding or sought investment” at any point, although mysteriously failed to mention millions were provided by Open Technology Fund (OTF).\n
        > \n
        > OTF was launched in 2012 as a pilot program of Radio Free Asia (RFA), an asset of US Agency for Global Media (USAGM), which is funded by US Congress to the tune of over $1 billion annually. In August 2018, its then-CEO openly acknowledged the Agency’s “global priorities…reflect US national security and public diplomacy interests.”\n
        > \n
        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
        \n
        Archive links:\n
        \n
        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
        - [ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV](https://ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV)
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      - I don’t think Signal has actually received money from OTF (Radio Free Asia) since 2015 or so; if it needed any today it would likely get it from one of the less transparent US government internet freedom funding vehicles. There is no indication they are “facing collapse” beyond a blog post talking about their expenses and soliciting donations.\n
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      - It doesn’t mention that Brian Acton (billionaire WhatsApp founder) gave them a $50M interest-free loan when he co-founded the Signal Foundation with Moxie in 2018, and became its “executive chairman” or whatever. That “loan” had increased to over $100M by the end of 2018, and is presumably much larger today.\n
      - It doesn’t mention that Signal Foundation president Meredith Whittaker worked at Google for over a decade, and co-founded a department there that worked alongside OTF on various internet freedom projects (and was later on the OTF advisory board herself)\n
      - it doesn’t mention the salient properties of Signal which actually make it particularly beneficial to US interests (keeping the communications of privacy-desiring people associated with their *phone numbers* while concentrating their [metadata](https://lemmy.ml/comment/5882433) on Amazon servers)
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          - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
          - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
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          - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
          - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
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        > On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat. Unmentioned by Whittaker, this budget shortfall results in large part due to the US intelligence community, which lavishly financed Signal’s creation and maintenance over several years, severing its support for the app.\n
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        > \n
        > OTF was launched in 2012 as a pilot program of Radio Free Asia (RFA), an asset of US Agency for Global Media (USAGM), which is funded by US Congress to the tune of over $1 billion annually. In August 2018, its then-CEO openly acknowledged the Agency’s “global priorities…reflect US national security and public diplomacy interests.”\n
        > \n
        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
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        Archive links:\n
        \n
        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
        - [ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV](https://ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV)
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          ============================================================\n
          \n
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          \n
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          \n
          ### Related communities\n
          \n
          - [Lemmy.ml libre_culture](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_culture)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
          - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
          \n
          ### Chat rooms\n
          \n
          - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
          - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
          \n
          much thanks to @gary_host_laptop for the logo design :)
          """
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        > On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat. Unmentioned by Whittaker, this budget shortfall results in large part due to the US intelligence community, which lavishly financed Signal’s creation and maintenance over several years, severing its support for the app.\n
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        > Never acknowledged in any serious way by the mainstream media, Signal’s origins as a US government asset are a matter of extensive public record, even if the scope and scale of the funding provided has until now been secret. The app, brainchild of shadowy tech guru ‘Moxie Marlinspike’ (real name Matthew Rosenfeld), was launched in 2013 by his now-defunct Open Whisper Systems (OWS). The company never published financial statements or disclosed the identities of its funders at any point during its operation.\n
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        > Sums involved in developing, launching and running a messaging app used by countless people globally were nonetheless surely significant. The newly-published financial records indicate Signal’s operating costs for 2023 alone are $40 million, and projected to rise to $50 million by 2025. Rosenfeld boasted in 2018 that OWS “never [took] VC funding or sought investment” at any point, although mysteriously failed to mention millions were provided by Open Technology Fund (OTF).\n
        > \n
        > OTF was launched in 2012 as a pilot program of Radio Free Asia (RFA), an asset of US Agency for Global Media (USAGM), which is funded by US Congress to the tune of over $1 billion annually. In August 2018, its then-CEO openly acknowledged the Agency’s “global priorities…reflect US national security and public diplomacy interests.”\n
        > \n
        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
        \n
        Archive links:\n
        \n
        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
        - [ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV](https://ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV)
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      ### Related communities\n
      \n
      - [Lemmy.ml libre_culture](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_culture)\n
      - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
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      - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
      - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
      \n
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      - [Lemmy.ml libre_culture](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_culture)\n
      - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
      - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
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      - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
      - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
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        - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
        - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
        - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
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        - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
        - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
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        - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
        - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
        - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
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        - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
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      > On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat. Unmentioned by Whittaker, this budget shortfall results in large part due to the US intelligence community, which lavishly financed Signal’s creation and maintenance over several years, severing its support for the app.\n
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      > OTF was launched in 2012 as a pilot program of Radio Free Asia (RFA), an asset of US Agency for Global Media (USAGM), which is funded by US Congress to the tune of over $1 billion annually. In August 2018, its then-CEO openly acknowledged the Agency’s “global priorities…reflect US national security and public diplomacy interests.”\n
      > \n
      > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
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      Archive links:\n
      \n
      - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
      - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
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          - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
          - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
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          - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
          - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
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          much thanks to @gary_host_laptop for the logo design :)
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        > On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat. Unmentioned by Whittaker, this budget shortfall results in large part due to the US intelligence community, which lavishly financed Signal’s creation and maintenance over several years, severing its support for the app.\n
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        > \n
        > OTF was launched in 2012 as a pilot program of Radio Free Asia (RFA), an asset of US Agency for Global Media (USAGM), which is funded by US Congress to the tune of over $1 billion annually. In August 2018, its then-CEO openly acknowledged the Agency’s “global priorities…reflect US national security and public diplomacy interests.”\n
        > \n
        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
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        Archive links:\n
        \n
        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
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          ============================================================\n
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          \n
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          \n
          - [Lemmy.ml libre_culture](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_culture)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
          - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
          \n
          ### Chat rooms\n
          \n
          - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
          - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
          \n
          much thanks to @gary_host_laptop for the logo design :)
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        > \n
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        > \n
        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
        \n
        Archive links:\n
        \n
        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
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          - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
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        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
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        Archive links:\n
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        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
        - [ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV](https://ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV)
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        > On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat. Unmentioned by Whittaker, this budget shortfall results in large part due to the US intelligence community, which lavishly financed Signal’s creation and maintenance over several years, severing its support for the app.\n
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        > \n
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        > \n
        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
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        Archive links:\n
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        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
        - [ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV](https://ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV)
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        > On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat. Unmentioned by Whittaker, this budget shortfall results in large part due to the US intelligence community, which lavishly financed Signal’s creation and maintenance over several years, severing its support for the app.\n
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        > \n
        > OTF was launched in 2012 as a pilot program of Radio Free Asia (RFA), an asset of US Agency for Global Media (USAGM), which is funded by US Congress to the tune of over $1 billion annually. In August 2018, its then-CEO openly acknowledged the Agency’s “global priorities…reflect US national security and public diplomacy interests.”\n
        > \n
        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
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        Archive links:\n
        \n
        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
        - [ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV](https://ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV)
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          - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
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          - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
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          ### Chat rooms\n
          \n
          - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
          - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
          \n
          much thanks to @gary_host_laptop for the logo design :)
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        > On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat. Unmentioned by Whittaker, this budget shortfall results in large part due to the US intelligence community, which lavishly financed Signal’s creation and maintenance over several years, severing its support for the app.\n
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        > Sums involved in developing, launching and running a messaging app used by countless people globally were nonetheless surely significant. The newly-published financial records indicate Signal’s operating costs for 2023 alone are $40 million, and projected to rise to $50 million by 2025. Rosenfeld boasted in 2018 that OWS “never [took] VC funding or sought investment” at any point, although mysteriously failed to mention millions were provided by Open Technology Fund (OTF).\n
        > \n
        > OTF was launched in 2012 as a pilot program of Radio Free Asia (RFA), an asset of US Agency for Global Media (USAGM), which is funded by US Congress to the tune of over $1 billion annually. In August 2018, its then-CEO openly acknowledged the Agency’s “global priorities…reflect US national security and public diplomacy interests.”\n
        > \n
        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
        \n
        Archive links:\n
        \n
        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
        - [ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV](https://ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV)
        """
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          ### Related communities\n
          \n
          - [Lemmy.ml libre_culture](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_culture)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
          - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
          \n
          ### Chat rooms\n
          \n
          - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
          - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
          \n
          much thanks to @gary_host_laptop for the logo design :)
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        > On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat. Unmentioned by Whittaker, this budget shortfall results in large part due to the US intelligence community, which lavishly financed Signal’s creation and maintenance over several years, severing its support for the app.\n
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        > Never acknowledged in any serious way by the mainstream media, Signal’s origins as a US government asset are a matter of extensive public record, even if the scope and scale of the funding provided has until now been secret. The app, brainchild of shadowy tech guru ‘Moxie Marlinspike’ (real name Matthew Rosenfeld), was launched in 2013 by his now-defunct Open Whisper Systems (OWS). The company never published financial statements or disclosed the identities of its funders at any point during its operation.\n
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        > Sums involved in developing, launching and running a messaging app used by countless people globally were nonetheless surely significant. The newly-published financial records indicate Signal’s operating costs for 2023 alone are $40 million, and projected to rise to $50 million by 2025. Rosenfeld boasted in 2018 that OWS “never [took] VC funding or sought investment” at any point, although mysteriously failed to mention millions were provided by Open Technology Fund (OTF).\n
        > \n
        > OTF was launched in 2012 as a pilot program of Radio Free Asia (RFA), an asset of US Agency for Global Media (USAGM), which is funded by US Congress to the tune of over $1 billion annually. In August 2018, its then-CEO openly acknowledged the Agency’s “global priorities…reflect US national security and public diplomacy interests.”\n
        > \n
        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
        \n
        Archive links:\n
        \n
        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
        - [ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV](https://ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV)
        """
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          Privacy has become a very important issue in modern society, with companies and governments constantly abusing their power, more and more people are waking up to the importance of digital privacy.\n
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          ### Related communities\n
          \n
          - [Lemmy.ml libre_culture](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_culture)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
          - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
          \n
          ### Chat rooms\n
          \n
          - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
          - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
          \n
          much thanks to @gary_host_laptop for the logo design :)
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        > On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat. Unmentioned by Whittaker, this budget shortfall results in large part due to the US intelligence community, which lavishly financed Signal’s creation and maintenance over several years, severing its support for the app.\n
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        > \n
        > OTF was launched in 2012 as a pilot program of Radio Free Asia (RFA), an asset of US Agency for Global Media (USAGM), which is funded by US Congress to the tune of over $1 billion annually. In August 2018, its then-CEO openly acknowledged the Agency’s “global priorities…reflect US national security and public diplomacy interests.”\n
        > \n
        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
        \n
        Archive links:\n
        \n
        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
        - [ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV](https://ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV)
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        \n
        - [Lemmy.ml libre_culture](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_culture)\n
        - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
        - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
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        ### Chat rooms\n
        \n
        - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
        - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
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      > On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat. Unmentioned by Whittaker, this budget shortfall results in large part due to the US intelligence community, which lavishly financed Signal’s creation and maintenance over several years, severing its support for the app.\n
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      > \n
      > OTF was launched in 2012 as a pilot program of Radio Free Asia (RFA), an asset of US Agency for Global Media (USAGM), which is funded by US Congress to the tune of over $1 billion annually. In August 2018, its then-CEO openly acknowledged the Agency’s “global priorities…reflect US national security and public diplomacy interests.”\n
      > \n
      > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
      \n
      Archive links:\n
      \n
      - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
      - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
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          \n
          - [Lemmy.ml libre_culture](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_culture)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
          - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
          \n
          ### Chat rooms\n
          \n
          - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
          - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
          \n
          much thanks to @gary_host_laptop for the logo design :)
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        > On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat. Unmentioned by Whittaker, this budget shortfall results in large part due to the US intelligence community, which lavishly financed Signal’s creation and maintenance over several years, severing its support for the app.\n
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        > \n
        > OTF was launched in 2012 as a pilot program of Radio Free Asia (RFA), an asset of US Agency for Global Media (USAGM), which is funded by US Congress to the tune of over $1 billion annually. In August 2018, its then-CEO openly acknowledged the Agency’s “global priorities…reflect US national security and public diplomacy interests.”\n
        > \n
        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
        \n
        Archive links:\n
        \n
        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
        - [ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV](https://ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV)
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          - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
          - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
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          - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
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        > On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat. Unmentioned by Whittaker, this budget shortfall results in large part due to the US intelligence community, which lavishly financed Signal’s creation and maintenance over several years, severing its support for the app.\n
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        > \n
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        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
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        Archive links:\n
        \n
        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
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          \n
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          \n
          ### Related communities\n
          \n
          - [Lemmy.ml libre_culture](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_culture)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
          - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
          \n
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        > \n
        > OTF was launched in 2012 as a pilot program of Radio Free Asia (RFA), an asset of US Agency for Global Media (USAGM), which is funded by US Congress to the tune of over $1 billion annually. In August 2018, its then-CEO openly acknowledged the Agency’s “global priorities…reflect US national security and public diplomacy interests.”\n
        > \n
        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
        \n
        Archive links:\n
        \n
        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
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        > On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat. Unmentioned by Whittaker, this budget shortfall results in large part due to the US intelligence community, which lavishly financed Signal’s creation and maintenance over several years, severing its support for the app.\n
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        > Never acknowledged in any serious way by the mainstream media, Signal’s origins as a US government asset are a matter of extensive public record, even if the scope and scale of the funding provided has until now been secret. The app, brainchild of shadowy tech guru ‘Moxie Marlinspike’ (real name Matthew Rosenfeld), was launched in 2013 by his now-defunct Open Whisper Systems (OWS). The company never published financial statements or disclosed the identities of its funders at any point during its operation.\n
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        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
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        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
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        > On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat. Unmentioned by Whittaker, this budget shortfall results in large part due to the US intelligence community, which lavishly financed Signal’s creation and maintenance over several years, severing its support for the app.\n
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        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
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        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
        - [ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV](https://ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV)
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        > On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat. Unmentioned by Whittaker, this budget shortfall results in large part due to the US intelligence community, which lavishly financed Signal’s creation and maintenance over several years, severing its support for the app.\n
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        > Never acknowledged in any serious way by the mainstream media, Signal’s origins as a US government asset are a matter of extensive public record, even if the scope and scale of the funding provided has until now been secret. The app, brainchild of shadowy tech guru ‘Moxie Marlinspike’ (real name Matthew Rosenfeld), was launched in 2013 by his now-defunct Open Whisper Systems (OWS). The company never published financial statements or disclosed the identities of its funders at any point during its operation.\n
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        > Sums involved in developing, launching and running a messaging app used by countless people globally were nonetheless surely significant. The newly-published financial records indicate Signal’s operating costs for 2023 alone are $40 million, and projected to rise to $50 million by 2025. Rosenfeld boasted in 2018 that OWS “never [took] VC funding or sought investment” at any point, although mysteriously failed to mention millions were provided by Open Technology Fund (OTF).\n
        > \n
        > OTF was launched in 2012 as a pilot program of Radio Free Asia (RFA), an asset of US Agency for Global Media (USAGM), which is funded by US Congress to the tune of over $1 billion annually. In August 2018, its then-CEO openly acknowledged the Agency’s “global priorities…reflect US national security and public diplomacy interests.”\n
        > \n
        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
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        Archive links:\n
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        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
        - [ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV](https://ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV)
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          ### Related communities\n
          \n
          - [Lemmy.ml libre_culture](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_culture)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
          - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
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          ### Chat rooms\n
          \n
          - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
          - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
          \n
          much thanks to @gary_host_laptop for the logo design :)
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        > On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat. Unmentioned by Whittaker, this budget shortfall results in large part due to the US intelligence community, which lavishly financed Signal’s creation and maintenance over several years, severing its support for the app.\n
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        > Sums involved in developing, launching and running a messaging app used by countless people globally were nonetheless surely significant. The newly-published financial records indicate Signal’s operating costs for 2023 alone are $40 million, and projected to rise to $50 million by 2025. Rosenfeld boasted in 2018 that OWS “never [took] VC funding or sought investment” at any point, although mysteriously failed to mention millions were provided by Open Technology Fund (OTF).\n
        > \n
        > OTF was launched in 2012 as a pilot program of Radio Free Asia (RFA), an asset of US Agency for Global Media (USAGM), which is funded by US Congress to the tune of over $1 billion annually. In August 2018, its then-CEO openly acknowledged the Agency’s “global priorities…reflect US national security and public diplomacy interests.”\n
        > \n
        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
        \n
        Archive links:\n
        \n
        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
        - [ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV](https://ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV)
        """
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          - [Lemmy.ml libre_culture](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_culture)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
          - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
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          ### Chat rooms\n
          \n
          - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
          - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
          \n
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        > Sums involved in developing, launching and running a messaging app used by countless people globally were nonetheless surely significant. The newly-published financial records indicate Signal’s operating costs for 2023 alone are $40 million, and projected to rise to $50 million by 2025. Rosenfeld boasted in 2018 that OWS “never [took] VC funding or sought investment” at any point, although mysteriously failed to mention millions were provided by Open Technology Fund (OTF).\n
        > \n
        > OTF was launched in 2012 as a pilot program of Radio Free Asia (RFA), an asset of US Agency for Global Media (USAGM), which is funded by US Congress to the tune of over $1 billion annually. In August 2018, its then-CEO openly acknowledged the Agency’s “global priorities…reflect US national security and public diplomacy interests.”\n
        > \n
        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
        \n
        Archive links:\n
        \n
        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
        - [ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV](https://ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV)
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          ### Related communities\n
          \n
          - [Lemmy.ml libre_culture](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_culture)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
          - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
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          ### Chat rooms\n
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          - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
          - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
          \n
          much thanks to @gary_host_laptop for the logo design :)
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        > On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat. Unmentioned by Whittaker, this budget shortfall results in large part due to the US intelligence community, which lavishly financed Signal’s creation and maintenance over several years, severing its support for the app.\n
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        > Never acknowledged in any serious way by the mainstream media, Signal’s origins as a US government asset are a matter of extensive public record, even if the scope and scale of the funding provided has until now been secret. The app, brainchild of shadowy tech guru ‘Moxie Marlinspike’ (real name Matthew Rosenfeld), was launched in 2013 by his now-defunct Open Whisper Systems (OWS). The company never published financial statements or disclosed the identities of its funders at any point during its operation.\n
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        > Sums involved in developing, launching and running a messaging app used by countless people globally were nonetheless surely significant. The newly-published financial records indicate Signal’s operating costs for 2023 alone are $40 million, and projected to rise to $50 million by 2025. Rosenfeld boasted in 2018 that OWS “never [took] VC funding or sought investment” at any point, although mysteriously failed to mention millions were provided by Open Technology Fund (OTF).\n
        > \n
        > OTF was launched in 2012 as a pilot program of Radio Free Asia (RFA), an asset of US Agency for Global Media (USAGM), which is funded by US Congress to the tune of over $1 billion annually. In August 2018, its then-CEO openly acknowledged the Agency’s “global priorities…reflect US national security and public diplomacy interests.”\n
        > \n
        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
        \n
        Archive links:\n
        \n
        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
        - [ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV](https://ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV)
        """
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          - [Lemmy.ml libre_culture](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_culture)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
          - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
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          ### Chat rooms\n
          \n
          - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
          - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
          \n
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        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
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        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
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        > On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat. Unmentioned by Whittaker, this budget shortfall results in large part due to the US intelligence community, which lavishly financed Signal’s creation and maintenance over several years, severing its support for the app.\n
        > \n
        > Never acknowledged in any serious way by the mainstream media, Signal’s origins as a US government asset are a matter of extensive public record, even if the scope and scale of the funding provided has until now been secret. The app, brainchild of shadowy tech guru ‘Moxie Marlinspike’ (real name Matthew Rosenfeld), was launched in 2013 by his now-defunct Open Whisper Systems (OWS). The company never published financial statements or disclosed the identities of its funders at any point during its operation.\n
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        > Sums involved in developing, launching and running a messaging app used by countless people globally were nonetheless surely significant. The newly-published financial records indicate Signal’s operating costs for 2023 alone are $40 million, and projected to rise to $50 million by 2025. Rosenfeld boasted in 2018 that OWS “never [took] VC funding or sought investment” at any point, although mysteriously failed to mention millions were provided by Open Technology Fund (OTF).\n
        > \n
        > OTF was launched in 2012 as a pilot program of Radio Free Asia (RFA), an asset of US Agency for Global Media (USAGM), which is funded by US Congress to the tune of over $1 billion annually. In August 2018, its then-CEO openly acknowledged the Agency’s “global priorities…reflect US national security and public diplomacy interests.”\n
        > \n
        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
        \n
        Archive links:\n
        \n
        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
        - [ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV](https://ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV)
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        > On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat. Unmentioned by Whittaker, this budget shortfall results in large part due to the US intelligence community, which lavishly financed Signal’s creation and maintenance over several years, severing its support for the app.\n
        > \n
        > Never acknowledged in any serious way by the mainstream media, Signal’s origins as a US government asset are a matter of extensive public record, even if the scope and scale of the funding provided has until now been secret. The app, brainchild of shadowy tech guru ‘Moxie Marlinspike’ (real name Matthew Rosenfeld), was launched in 2013 by his now-defunct Open Whisper Systems (OWS). The company never published financial statements or disclosed the identities of its funders at any point during its operation.\n
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        > Sums involved in developing, launching and running a messaging app used by countless people globally were nonetheless surely significant. The newly-published financial records indicate Signal’s operating costs for 2023 alone are $40 million, and projected to rise to $50 million by 2025. Rosenfeld boasted in 2018 that OWS “never [took] VC funding or sought investment” at any point, although mysteriously failed to mention millions were provided by Open Technology Fund (OTF).\n
        > \n
        > OTF was launched in 2012 as a pilot program of Radio Free Asia (RFA), an asset of US Agency for Global Media (USAGM), which is funded by US Congress to the tune of over $1 billion annually. In August 2018, its then-CEO openly acknowledged the Agency’s “global priorities…reflect US national security and public diplomacy interests.”\n
        > \n
        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
        \n
        Archive links:\n
        \n
        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
        - [ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV](https://ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV)
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          ### Related communities\n
          \n
          - [Lemmy.ml libre_culture](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_culture)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
          - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
          \n
          ### Chat rooms\n
          \n
          - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
          - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
          \n
          much thanks to @gary_host_laptop for the logo design :)
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        > On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat. Unmentioned by Whittaker, this budget shortfall results in large part due to the US intelligence community, which lavishly financed Signal’s creation and maintenance over several years, severing its support for the app.\n
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        > Never acknowledged in any serious way by the mainstream media, Signal’s origins as a US government asset are a matter of extensive public record, even if the scope and scale of the funding provided has until now been secret. The app, brainchild of shadowy tech guru ‘Moxie Marlinspike’ (real name Matthew Rosenfeld), was launched in 2013 by his now-defunct Open Whisper Systems (OWS). The company never published financial statements or disclosed the identities of its funders at any point during its operation.\n
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        > Sums involved in developing, launching and running a messaging app used by countless people globally were nonetheless surely significant. The newly-published financial records indicate Signal’s operating costs for 2023 alone are $40 million, and projected to rise to $50 million by 2025. Rosenfeld boasted in 2018 that OWS “never [took] VC funding or sought investment” at any point, although mysteriously failed to mention millions were provided by Open Technology Fund (OTF).\n
        > \n
        > OTF was launched in 2012 as a pilot program of Radio Free Asia (RFA), an asset of US Agency for Global Media (USAGM), which is funded by US Congress to the tune of over $1 billion annually. In August 2018, its then-CEO openly acknowledged the Agency’s “global priorities…reflect US national security and public diplomacy interests.”\n
        > \n
        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
        \n
        Archive links:\n
        \n
        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
        - [ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV](https://ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV)
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          \n
          - [Lemmy.ml libre_culture](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_culture)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
          - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
          \n
          ### Chat rooms\n
          \n
          - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
          - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
          \n
          much thanks to @gary_host_laptop for the logo design :)
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        > On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat. Unmentioned by Whittaker, this budget shortfall results in large part due to the US intelligence community, which lavishly financed Signal’s creation and maintenance over several years, severing its support for the app.\n
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        > Never acknowledged in any serious way by the mainstream media, Signal’s origins as a US government asset are a matter of extensive public record, even if the scope and scale of the funding provided has until now been secret. The app, brainchild of shadowy tech guru ‘Moxie Marlinspike’ (real name Matthew Rosenfeld), was launched in 2013 by his now-defunct Open Whisper Systems (OWS). The company never published financial statements or disclosed the identities of its funders at any point during its operation.\n
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        > Sums involved in developing, launching and running a messaging app used by countless people globally were nonetheless surely significant. The newly-published financial records indicate Signal’s operating costs for 2023 alone are $40 million, and projected to rise to $50 million by 2025. Rosenfeld boasted in 2018 that OWS “never [took] VC funding or sought investment” at any point, although mysteriously failed to mention millions were provided by Open Technology Fund (OTF).\n
        > \n
        > OTF was launched in 2012 as a pilot program of Radio Free Asia (RFA), an asset of US Agency for Global Media (USAGM), which is funded by US Congress to the tune of over $1 billion annually. In August 2018, its then-CEO openly acknowledged the Agency’s “global priorities…reflect US national security and public diplomacy interests.”\n
        > \n
        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
        \n
        Archive links:\n
        \n
        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
        - [ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV](https://ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV)
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          ### Related communities\n
          \n
          - [Lemmy.ml libre_culture](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_culture)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
          - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
          \n
          ### Chat rooms\n
          \n
          - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
          - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
          \n
          much thanks to @gary_host_laptop for the logo design :)
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        > On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat. Unmentioned by Whittaker, this budget shortfall results in large part due to the US intelligence community, which lavishly financed Signal’s creation and maintenance over several years, severing its support for the app.\n
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        > Never acknowledged in any serious way by the mainstream media, Signal’s origins as a US government asset are a matter of extensive public record, even if the scope and scale of the funding provided has until now been secret. The app, brainchild of shadowy tech guru ‘Moxie Marlinspike’ (real name Matthew Rosenfeld), was launched in 2013 by his now-defunct Open Whisper Systems (OWS). The company never published financial statements or disclosed the identities of its funders at any point during its operation.\n
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        > Sums involved in developing, launching and running a messaging app used by countless people globally were nonetheless surely significant. The newly-published financial records indicate Signal’s operating costs for 2023 alone are $40 million, and projected to rise to $50 million by 2025. Rosenfeld boasted in 2018 that OWS “never [took] VC funding or sought investment” at any point, although mysteriously failed to mention millions were provided by Open Technology Fund (OTF).\n
        > \n
        > OTF was launched in 2012 as a pilot program of Radio Free Asia (RFA), an asset of US Agency for Global Media (USAGM), which is funded by US Congress to the tune of over $1 billion annually. In August 2018, its then-CEO openly acknowledged the Agency’s “global priorities…reflect US national security and public diplomacy interests.”\n
        > \n
        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
        \n
        Archive links:\n
        \n
        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
        - [ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV](https://ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV)
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          ### Related communities\n
          \n
          - [Lemmy.ml libre_culture](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_culture)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
          - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
          \n
          ### Chat rooms\n
          \n
          - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
          - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
          \n
          much thanks to @gary_host_laptop for the logo design :)
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        > On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat. Unmentioned by Whittaker, this budget shortfall results in large part due to the US intelligence community, which lavishly financed Signal’s creation and maintenance over several years, severing its support for the app.\n
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        > Never acknowledged in any serious way by the mainstream media, Signal’s origins as a US government asset are a matter of extensive public record, even if the scope and scale of the funding provided has until now been secret. The app, brainchild of shadowy tech guru ‘Moxie Marlinspike’ (real name Matthew Rosenfeld), was launched in 2013 by his now-defunct Open Whisper Systems (OWS). The company never published financial statements or disclosed the identities of its funders at any point during its operation.\n
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        > Sums involved in developing, launching and running a messaging app used by countless people globally were nonetheless surely significant. The newly-published financial records indicate Signal’s operating costs for 2023 alone are $40 million, and projected to rise to $50 million by 2025. Rosenfeld boasted in 2018 that OWS “never [took] VC funding or sought investment” at any point, although mysteriously failed to mention millions were provided by Open Technology Fund (OTF).\n
        > \n
        > OTF was launched in 2012 as a pilot program of Radio Free Asia (RFA), an asset of US Agency for Global Media (USAGM), which is funded by US Congress to the tune of over $1 billion annually. In August 2018, its then-CEO openly acknowledged the Agency’s “global priorities…reflect US national security and public diplomacy interests.”\n
        > \n
        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
        \n
        Archive links:\n
        \n
        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
        - [ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV](https://ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV)
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      ============================================================\n
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        - [Lemmy.ml libre_culture](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_culture)\n
        - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
        - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
        - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
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        - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
        - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
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      > On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat. Unmentioned by Whittaker, this budget shortfall results in large part due to the US intelligence community, which lavishly financed Signal’s creation and maintenance over several years, severing its support for the app.\n
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      > Sums involved in developing, launching and running a messaging app used by countless people globally were nonetheless surely significant. The newly-published financial records indicate Signal’s operating costs for 2023 alone are $40 million, and projected to rise to $50 million by 2025. Rosenfeld boasted in 2018 that OWS “never [took] VC funding or sought investment” at any point, although mysteriously failed to mention millions were provided by Open Technology Fund (OTF).\n
      > \n
      > OTF was launched in 2012 as a pilot program of Radio Free Asia (RFA), an asset of US Agency for Global Media (USAGM), which is funded by US Congress to the tune of over $1 billion annually. In August 2018, its then-CEO openly acknowledged the Agency’s “global priorities…reflect US national security and public diplomacy interests.”\n
      > \n
      > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
      \n
      Archive links:\n
      \n
      - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
      - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
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          ### Related communities\n
          \n
          - [Lemmy.ml libre_culture](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_culture)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
          - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
          \n
          ### Chat rooms\n
          \n
          - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
          - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
          \n
          much thanks to @gary_host_laptop for the logo design :)
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        > On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat. Unmentioned by Whittaker, this budget shortfall results in large part due to the US intelligence community, which lavishly financed Signal’s creation and maintenance over several years, severing its support for the app.\n
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        > \n
        > OTF was launched in 2012 as a pilot program of Radio Free Asia (RFA), an asset of US Agency for Global Media (USAGM), which is funded by US Congress to the tune of over $1 billion annually. In August 2018, its then-CEO openly acknowledged the Agency’s “global priorities…reflect US national security and public diplomacy interests.”\n
        > \n
        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
        \n
        Archive links:\n
        \n
        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
        - [ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV](https://ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV)
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        > \n
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        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
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        Archive links:\n
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        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
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          - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
          - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
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        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
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        Archive links:\n
        \n
        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
        - [ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV](https://ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV)
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        > On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat. Unmentioned by Whittaker, this budget shortfall results in large part due to the US intelligence community, which lavishly financed Signal’s creation and maintenance over several years, severing its support for the app.\n
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        > Never acknowledged in any serious way by the mainstream media, Signal’s origins as a US government asset are a matter of extensive public record, even if the scope and scale of the funding provided has until now been secret. The app, brainchild of shadowy tech guru ‘Moxie Marlinspike’ (real name Matthew Rosenfeld), was launched in 2013 by his now-defunct Open Whisper Systems (OWS). The company never published financial statements or disclosed the identities of its funders at any point during its operation.\n
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        > Sums involved in developing, launching and running a messaging app used by countless people globally were nonetheless surely significant. The newly-published financial records indicate Signal’s operating costs for 2023 alone are $40 million, and projected to rise to $50 million by 2025. Rosenfeld boasted in 2018 that OWS “never [took] VC funding or sought investment” at any point, although mysteriously failed to mention millions were provided by Open Technology Fund (OTF).\n
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        > OTF was launched in 2012 as a pilot program of Radio Free Asia (RFA), an asset of US Agency for Global Media (USAGM), which is funded by US Congress to the tune of over $1 billion annually. In August 2018, its then-CEO openly acknowledged the Agency’s “global priorities…reflect US national security and public diplomacy interests.”\n
        > \n
        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
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        Archive links:\n
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        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
        - [ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV](https://ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV)
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        > On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat. Unmentioned by Whittaker, this budget shortfall results in large part due to the US intelligence community, which lavishly financed Signal’s creation and maintenance over several years, severing its support for the app.\n
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        > Never acknowledged in any serious way by the mainstream media, Signal’s origins as a US government asset are a matter of extensive public record, even if the scope and scale of the funding provided has until now been secret. The app, brainchild of shadowy tech guru ‘Moxie Marlinspike’ (real name Matthew Rosenfeld), was launched in 2013 by his now-defunct Open Whisper Systems (OWS). The company never published financial statements or disclosed the identities of its funders at any point during its operation.\n
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        > Sums involved in developing, launching and running a messaging app used by countless people globally were nonetheless surely significant. The newly-published financial records indicate Signal’s operating costs for 2023 alone are $40 million, and projected to rise to $50 million by 2025. Rosenfeld boasted in 2018 that OWS “never [took] VC funding or sought investment” at any point, although mysteriously failed to mention millions were provided by Open Technology Fund (OTF).\n
        > \n
        > OTF was launched in 2012 as a pilot program of Radio Free Asia (RFA), an asset of US Agency for Global Media (USAGM), which is funded by US Congress to the tune of over $1 billion annually. In August 2018, its then-CEO openly acknowledged the Agency’s “global priorities…reflect US national security and public diplomacy interests.”\n
        > \n
        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
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        Archive links:\n
        \n
        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
        - [ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV](https://ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV)
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        > On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat. Unmentioned by Whittaker, this budget shortfall results in large part due to the US intelligence community, which lavishly financed Signal’s creation and maintenance over several years, severing its support for the app.\n
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        > Never acknowledged in any serious way by the mainstream media, Signal’s origins as a US government asset are a matter of extensive public record, even if the scope and scale of the funding provided has until now been secret. The app, brainchild of shadowy tech guru ‘Moxie Marlinspike’ (real name Matthew Rosenfeld), was launched in 2013 by his now-defunct Open Whisper Systems (OWS). The company never published financial statements or disclosed the identities of its funders at any point during its operation.\n
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        > Sums involved in developing, launching and running a messaging app used by countless people globally were nonetheless surely significant. The newly-published financial records indicate Signal’s operating costs for 2023 alone are $40 million, and projected to rise to $50 million by 2025. Rosenfeld boasted in 2018 that OWS “never [took] VC funding or sought investment” at any point, although mysteriously failed to mention millions were provided by Open Technology Fund (OTF).\n
        > \n
        > OTF was launched in 2012 as a pilot program of Radio Free Asia (RFA), an asset of US Agency for Global Media (USAGM), which is funded by US Congress to the tune of over $1 billion annually. In August 2018, its then-CEO openly acknowledged the Agency’s “global priorities…reflect US national security and public diplomacy interests.”\n
        > \n
        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
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        Archive links:\n
        \n
        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
        - [ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV](https://ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV)
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          - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
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        > On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat. Unmentioned by Whittaker, this budget shortfall results in large part due to the US intelligence community, which lavishly financed Signal’s creation and maintenance over several years, severing its support for the app.\n
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        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
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        Archive links:\n
        \n
        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
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          - [Lemmy.ml libre_culture](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_culture)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
          - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
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          ### Chat rooms\n
          \n
          - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
          - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
          \n
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        > On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat. Unmentioned by Whittaker, this budget shortfall results in large part due to the US intelligence community, which lavishly financed Signal’s creation and maintenance over several years, severing its support for the app.\n
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        > OTF was launched in 2012 as a pilot program of Radio Free Asia (RFA), an asset of US Agency for Global Media (USAGM), which is funded by US Congress to the tune of over $1 billion annually. In August 2018, its then-CEO openly acknowledged the Agency’s “global priorities…reflect US national security and public diplomacy interests.”\n
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        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
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        Archive links:\n
        \n
        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
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      > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
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      Archive links:\n
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      - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
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      > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
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        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
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        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
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        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
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          ### Related communities\n
          \n
          - [Lemmy.ml libre_culture](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_culture)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
          - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
          \n
          ### Chat rooms\n
          \n
          - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
          - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
          \n
          much thanks to @gary_host_laptop for the logo design :)
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        > On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat. Unmentioned by Whittaker, this budget shortfall results in large part due to the US intelligence community, which lavishly financed Signal’s creation and maintenance over several years, severing its support for the app.\n
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        > \n
        > OTF was launched in 2012 as a pilot program of Radio Free Asia (RFA), an asset of US Agency for Global Media (USAGM), which is funded by US Congress to the tune of over $1 billion annually. In August 2018, its then-CEO openly acknowledged the Agency’s “global priorities…reflect US national security and public diplomacy interests.”\n
        > \n
        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
        \n
        Archive links:\n
        \n
        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
        - [ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV](https://ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV)
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          - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
          - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
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          - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
          - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
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          much thanks to @gary_host_laptop for the logo design :)
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        > On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat. Unmentioned by Whittaker, this budget shortfall results in large part due to the US intelligence community, which lavishly financed Signal’s creation and maintenance over several years, severing its support for the app.\n
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        > Never acknowledged in any serious way by the mainstream media, Signal’s origins as a US government asset are a matter of extensive public record, even if the scope and scale of the funding provided has until now been secret. The app, brainchild of shadowy tech guru ‘Moxie Marlinspike’ (real name Matthew Rosenfeld), was launched in 2013 by his now-defunct Open Whisper Systems (OWS). The company never published financial statements or disclosed the identities of its funders at any point during its operation.\n
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        > Sums involved in developing, launching and running a messaging app used by countless people globally were nonetheless surely significant. The newly-published financial records indicate Signal’s operating costs for 2023 alone are $40 million, and projected to rise to $50 million by 2025. Rosenfeld boasted in 2018 that OWS “never [took] VC funding or sought investment” at any point, although mysteriously failed to mention millions were provided by Open Technology Fund (OTF).\n
        > \n
        > OTF was launched in 2012 as a pilot program of Radio Free Asia (RFA), an asset of US Agency for Global Media (USAGM), which is funded by US Congress to the tune of over $1 billion annually. In August 2018, its then-CEO openly acknowledged the Agency’s “global priorities…reflect US national security and public diplomacy interests.”\n
        > \n
        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
        \n
        Archive links:\n
        \n
        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
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          \n
          - [Lemmy.ml libre_culture](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_culture)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
          - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
          - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
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          \n
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          - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
          \n
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        > On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat. Unmentioned by Whittaker, this budget shortfall results in large part due to the US intelligence community, which lavishly financed Signal’s creation and maintenance over several years, severing its support for the app.\n
        > \n
        > Never acknowledged in any serious way by the mainstream media, Signal’s origins as a US government asset are a matter of extensive public record, even if the scope and scale of the funding provided has until now been secret. The app, brainchild of shadowy tech guru ‘Moxie Marlinspike’ (real name Matthew Rosenfeld), was launched in 2013 by his now-defunct Open Whisper Systems (OWS). The company never published financial statements or disclosed the identities of its funders at any point during its operation.\n
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        > Sums involved in developing, launching and running a messaging app used by countless people globally were nonetheless surely significant. The newly-published financial records indicate Signal’s operating costs for 2023 alone are $40 million, and projected to rise to $50 million by 2025. Rosenfeld boasted in 2018 that OWS “never [took] VC funding or sought investment” at any point, although mysteriously failed to mention millions were provided by Open Technology Fund (OTF).\n
        > \n
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        > \n
        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
        \n
        Archive links:\n
        \n
        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
        - [ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV](https://ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV)
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        > On November 16th, Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal, published a detailed breakdown of the popular encrypted messaging app’s running costs for the very first time. The unprecedented disclosure’s motivation was simple - the platform is rapidly running out of money, and in dire need of donations to stay afloat. Unmentioned by Whittaker, this budget shortfall results in large part due to the US intelligence community, which lavishly financed Signal’s creation and maintenance over several years, severing its support for the app.\n
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        > Never acknowledged in any serious way by the mainstream media, Signal’s origins as a US government asset are a matter of extensive public record, even if the scope and scale of the funding provided has until now been secret. The app, brainchild of shadowy tech guru ‘Moxie Marlinspike’ (real name Matthew Rosenfeld), was launched in 2013 by his now-defunct Open Whisper Systems (OWS). The company never published financial statements or disclosed the identities of its funders at any point during its operation.\n
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        > Sums involved in developing, launching and running a messaging app used by countless people globally were nonetheless surely significant. The newly-published financial records indicate Signal’s operating costs for 2023 alone are $40 million, and projected to rise to $50 million by 2025. Rosenfeld boasted in 2018 that OWS “never [took] VC funding or sought investment” at any point, although mysteriously failed to mention millions were provided by Open Technology Fund (OTF).\n
        > \n
        > OTF was launched in 2012 as a pilot program of Radio Free Asia (RFA), an asset of US Agency for Global Media (USAGM), which is funded by US Congress to the tune of over $1 billion annually. In August 2018, its then-CEO openly acknowledged the Agency’s “global priorities…reflect US national security and public diplomacy interests.”\n
        > \n
        > [[Article continues…](https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)]\n
        \n
        Archive links:\n
        \n
        - [archive.md/DyfJB](https://archive.md/DyfJB)\n
        - [web.archive.org/…/signal-facing-collapse-after-ci…](https://web.archive.org/web/20231205063052/https://kitklarenberg.substack.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia)\n
        - [ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV](https://ghostarchive.org/archive/4ZzzV)
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App\Twig\Components\DomainComponent {#16000
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[
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Component
App\Twig\Components\DomainSubComponent {#16049
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[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowEnumComponent {#16179
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[
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Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#16251
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[
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Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#16314
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Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#16370
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Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#16429
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Input props
[
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Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#16485
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Input props
[
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Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#16541
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user_settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\UserSettingsRowSwitchComponent 16.0 MiB 0.28 ms
Input props
[
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]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\UserSettingsRowSwitchComponent {#16599
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Input props
[
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Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#16662
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Input props
[
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]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\UserSettingsRowSwitchComponent {#16720
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Input props
[
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Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\UserSettingsRowSwitchComponent {#16776
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Input props
[
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Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\UserSettingsRowSwitchComponent {#16832
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Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#16888
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Input props
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Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#16944
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Input props
[
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Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#17000
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Input props
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Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#17056
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[
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Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#17112
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Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#17168
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Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#17224
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[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowEnumComponent {#17280
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Input props
[
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Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#17338
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Input props
[
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Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\RelatedMagazinesComponent {#17403
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Input props
[
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Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\ActiveUsersComponent {#17491
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Input props
[
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]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\RelatedCategoriesComponent {#17550
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Input props
[
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Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\RelatedPostsComponent {#17621
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[
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Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\RelatedEntriesComponent {#17691
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Input props
[]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SupportUsBlock {#17760
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Input props
[
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Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\FeaturedMagazinesComponent {#17853
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