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Components

21 Twig Components
256 Render Count
597 ms Render Time
22.0 MiB Memory Usage

Components

Name Metadata Render Count Render Time
date
"App\Twig\Components\DateComponent"
components/date.html.twig
33 27.01ms
user_inline
"App\Twig\Components\UserInlineComponent"
components/user_inline.html.twig
32 16.98ms
date_edited
"App\Twig\Components\DateEditedComponent"
components/date_edited.html.twig
32 14.45ms
vote
"App\Twig\Components\VoteComponent"
components/vote.html.twig
32 16.35ms
boost
"App\Twig\Components\BoostComponent"
components/boost.html.twig
32 46.04ms
user_avatar
"App\Twig\Components\UserAvatarComponent"
components/user_avatar.html.twig
23 15.59ms
entry_comment
"App\Twig\Components\EntryCommentComponent"
components/entry_comment.html.twig
22 343.04ms
settings_row_switch
"App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent"
components/_settings_row_switch.html.twig
15 5.33ms
entry
"App\Twig\Components\EntryComponent"
components/_cached.html.twig
10 181.65ms
magazine_inline
"App\Twig\Components\MagazineInlineComponent"
components/magazine_inline.html.twig
10 1.52ms
user_settings_row_switch
"App\Twig\Components\UserSettingsRowSwitchComponent"
components/_user_settings_row_switch.html.twig
4 0.80ms
settings_row_enum
"App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowEnumComponent"
components/_settings_row_enum.html.twig
2 1.39ms
user_box
"App\Twig\Components\UserBoxComponent"
components/user_box.html.twig
1 56.20ms
user_actions
"App\Twig\Components\UserActionsComponent"
components/user_actions.html.twig
1 0.65ms
related_magazines
"App\Twig\Components\RelatedMagazinesComponent"
components/_cached.html.twig
1 3.13ms
active_users
"App\Twig\Components\ActiveUsersComponent"
components/_cached.html.twig
1 0.20ms
related_categories
"App\Twig\Components\RelatedCategoriesComponent"
components/_cached.html.twig
1 1.45ms
related_posts
"App\Twig\Components\RelatedPostsComponent"
components/_cached.html.twig
1 1.54ms
related_entries
"App\Twig\Components\RelatedEntriesComponent"
components/_cached.html.twig
1 1.73ms
support_us_block
"App\Twig\Components\SupportUsBlock"
components/_cached.html.twig
1 0.20ms
featured_magazines
"App\Twig\Components\FeaturedMagazinesComponent"
components/_cached.html.twig
1 0.89ms

Render calls

user_box App\Twig\Components\UserBoxComponent 16.0 MiB 56.20 ms
Input props
[
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    +cover: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#241 …}
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      date: 2024-10-21 20:30:27.0 +02:00
    }
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      date: 2023-06-23 04:03:35.0 +02:00
    }
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  "stretchedLink" => false
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\UserBoxComponent {#2945
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    +email: "yogthos@lemmy.ml"
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      date: 2024-10-21 20:30:27.0 +02:00
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    +showSubscribedDomains: true
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    +notifyOnNewEntryReply: false
    +notifyOnNewEntryCommentReply: false
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    +notifyOnNewPostReply: false
    +notifyOnNewPostCommentReply: false
    +addMentionsEntries: false
    +addMentionsPosts: true
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    +isDeleted: false
    +isBot: false
    +spamProtection: true
    +customCss: null
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    +moderatorTokens: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#230 …}
    +magazineOwnershipRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#226 …}
    +moderatorRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#215 …}
    +entries: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#173 …}
    +entryVotes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#145 …}
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    +entryCommentVotes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#88 …}
    +posts: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#61 …}
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    +postComments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2397 …}
    +postCommentVotes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1770 …}
    +subscriptions: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1605 …}
    +subscribedDomains: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2435 …}
    +follows: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1805 …}
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    +blockedDomains: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2420 …}
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      date: 2023-06-23 04:03:35.0 +02:00
    }
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}
user_avatar App\Twig\Components\UserAvatarComponent 16.0 MiB 2.17 ms
Input props
[
  "user" => App\Entity\User {#260
    +avatar: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#240 …}
    +cover: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#241 …}
    +email: "yogthos@lemmy.ml"
    +username: "@yogthos@lemmy.ml"
    +roles: []
    +followersCount: 0
    +homepage: "front"
    +about: null
    +lastActive: DateTime @1729535427 {#273
      date: 2024-10-21 20:30:27.0 +02:00
    }
    +markedForDeletionAt: null
    +fields: null
    +oauthGithubId: null
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    +showSubscribedMagazines: true
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]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\UserAvatarComponent {#3135
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      date: 2024-10-21 20:30:27.0 +02:00
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user_actions App\Twig\Components\UserActionsComponent 16.0 MiB 0.65 ms
Input props
[
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]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\UserActionsComponent {#3205
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        +body: "After two years, it’s pretty clear that the west is not capable of doing anything of the sort. All the west managed to achieve was to ensure that hundreds of thousands of people died, and that Ukraine lost large parts of its territory in the process. We now have admissions from Ukrainian negotiators that a peace deal was close to being reached last March before the west sabotaged it."
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          The actual truth is that it’s NATO that’s been constantly expanding towards Russia. It’s also NATO that’s been invading and destroying countries since the end of USSR. Syria, Libya, and Yugoslavia being some prominent examples.\n
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          Meanwhile, Russia tried to resolve this situation diplomatically since 2008 with Minsk agreements that western leaders now openly admit were a delaying tactic by the west.\n
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          Finally, section IX of Ukraine’s 1990 Declaration of State Sovereignty states the following:\n
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          [The Ukrainian SSR solemnly declares its intention of becoming a permanently neutral state that does not participate in military blocs and adheres to three nuclear free principles: to accept, to produce and to purchase no nuclear weapons.](https://web.archive.org/web/20130615031823/https://static.rada.gov.ua/site/postanova_eng/Declaration_of_State_Sovereignty_of_Ukraine_rev1.htm)\n
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          The whole legal basis for the existence of state of Ukraine is predicated on Ukraine staying neutral and not joining military blocs. Ukraine broke the very basis of this agreement when it tried to join NATO.\n
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          Now, thanks to western “help”, Ukraine will lose far more territory than it would have if the deal was done last year, and it may even cease to exist as a state. I can’t wait for you to explain how this actually helps people of Ukraine.
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        +body: "NATO is an aggressive alliance that has invaded and destroyed numerous countries. The fact that you keep pretending that it’s a defensive alliance just shows how utterly dishonest you are."
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          > False equivalence.\n
          \n
          It’s not.\n
          \n
          > Because Russia attacked them.\n
          \n
          No, Ukraine has been engaged in atrocities in Donbas since 2014 as even western media reported at the time.\n
          \n
          > It is in fact the opposite. No neutral country stays that way for long when Russia wants it’s territory.\n
          \n
          I see you have problems with reading comprehension.\n
          \n
          > If the West had not helped, there would be no Ukraine either. We would be condemning them to a decade of guerilla warfare and oppression. Emboldened by his victory, Putin would look further west.\n
          \n
          If the west didn’t run a coup to overthrow a democratically elected government then there would’ve been no troubles in Ukraine. Period.\n
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          > Ukrainians now fight Russia, both sides are getting exhausted and it all depends on what help Ukraine gets. Your magical peace treaty would just mean Russia trying this again in 5 years or less.\n
          \n
          That’s complete and utter nonsense, and even western media now admits this.\n
          \n
          > You could have used the same arguments to make peace with the Nazis in 1941 and the world would only be worse for it.\n
          \n
          Now that’s what actual false equivalence looks like.
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          > Russian propaganda talking point.\n
          \n
          Ah yes, Russian propaganda point as reported by CNN back in 2014 [twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296](https://twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296)\n
          \n
          There’s even an hour long documentary from France on this [www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs)\n
          \n
          Pretending this just didn’t happen is the height of intellectual dishonesty.\n
          \n
          > Euromaidan was not a coup.\n
          \n
          Yes, it was and there’s overwhelming evidence for it.\n
          \n
          > Cite sources for the first point and military strategy analysts for the second.\n
          \n
          Are you just incapable of using google, I guess that would explain why you believe in nonsense. Here you go. First of all Russian economy is now rapidly growing while the west is going into a recession. This is not a country that’s showing any signs of being exhausted:\n
          \n
          - [newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-op…](https://www.newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-opinion-1861645)\n
          - [reuters.com/…/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-rosstat-2023-12-13/)\n
          - [reuters.com/…/russian-factory-activity-expands-fa…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russian-factory-activity-expands-fastest-pace-seven-years-dec-pmi-2023-12-29/)\n
          \n
          and here’s some recent mainstream media reporting on the state of the war for you to chew on\n
          \n
          - [www.nytimes.com/2024/…/ukraine-russia-war.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/13/world/europe/ukraine-russia-war.html)\n
          - [reuters.com/…/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defen…](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defence-minister-says-2024-01-10/)\n
          - [lepoint.fr/…/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d…](https://www.lepoint.fr/monde/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d-une-debacle-05-01-2024-2549049_24.php)\n
          - [lemonde.fr/…/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-ex…](https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2023/09/27/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-express-discontent-i-repeatedly-told-them-nato-manuals-didn-t-apply_6140349_4.html)\n
          - [spiegel.de/…/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-…](https://www.spiegel.de/politik/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-deutschen-pannen-panzern-a-cd9421ae-4a96-4d4f-983a-6205a063ae15)\n
          - [archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73](https://archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73)\n
          - [telegraph.co.uk/…/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-…](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/12/27/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-tide-war-ukraine/)\n
          - [www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/…/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/ukraine-war-victory-hopes-dim-intl/index.html)\n
          - [cbc.ca/…/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232](https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232)\n
          \n
          and here’s some analysis from military strategists for you\n
          \n
          - [www.russiamatters.org/…/whats-ahead-war-ukraine](https://www.russiamatters.org/analysis/whats-ahead-war-ukraine)\n
          - […substack.com/…/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukra…](https://mearsheimer.substack.com/p/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukraine)\n
          - [rusi.org/…/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challeng…](https://www.rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challenges-and-innovations)\n
          \n
          Russia will win this war, and the only thing the west has achieved was to help destroy Ukraine by sabotaging negotiations in 2022.
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        +body: "Share a source for NATO invading Yugoslavia, Libya, Syria, and Afghanistan, is that what you’re asking there little buddy?"
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        +body: "No, I’m saying that anybody can type in words NATO and Yugoslavia or NATO and Libya into Google and see that you’re a liar."
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          Russian economy is growing while the west is going into a recession. [Russian factory activity grows at fastest pace in over six years](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-factory-activity-grows-fastest-pace-over-six-years-sept-pmi-2023-10-02/), meanwhile [while US manufacturing activity shrinks the most in three years.](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-07-03/us-manufacturing-activity-shrinks-by-most-in-three-years). UK now [can’t even make steel from raw materials.](https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/jan/18/tata-steel-to-shut-down-port-talbot-blast-furnaces-3000-jobs-at-risk)\n
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          Yes, people still bleat about a weaker Russia. 🤡
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        +body: "Here’s an idea go sign up as a volunteer in Ukraine and fight yourself instead of cheering on for other people to die for you, you disgusting sack of shit."
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        +body: "I see somebody is projecting"
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          The fact that the west was deeply involved in the coup is well documented even in western media\n
          \n
          - [quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukr…](https://www.quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukraines-2014-revolution-was-due-to-a-CIA-coup) ([archive.ph/BAxYc](https://archive.ph/BAxYc))\n
          - [consortiumnews.com/…/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-i…](https://consortiumnews.com/2022/12/29/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-in-kiev/)\n
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          The foundations of my beliefs are that the west saw itself as the winner of the cold war after USSR dissolved, and decided to renege on all the promises that were made in the 90s. This created increasing tensions with Russia, and eventually led to the war we’re seeing play out in Ukraine. This is a proxy war between NATO and Russia, and it’s following the script that [was outlined by RAND](https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR3063.html).\n
          \n
          The west made a huge miscalculation thinking that it could defeat Russia militarily and economically, and now the whole thing is starting to backfire. NATO is finding that it lacks the industrial base to sustain the conflict. Russia managed to reroute its trade away from the west, which caused immeasurable economic damage to Europe. The world outside the G7 has been increasingly aligning towards Russia and China and away from the west. This proxy war is heralding the end of the unipolar moment that US enjoyed and ushering in multipolarity.\n
          \n
          > I have been using Google for long enough to know that it often shows us what we want to see, not that which is most likely to be correct. :)\n
          \n
          Have you considered that this might be why you still think that Ukraine is winning despite all the evidence to the contrary?\n
          \n
          > Regarding Russian economic data you seem to be flaunting, Russia has made it hard for outside sources to verify any of it.\n
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        +body: "NATO is an aggressive alliance that has invaded and destroyed numerous countries. The fact that you keep pretending that it’s a defensive alliance just shows how utterly dishonest you are."
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          > False equivalence.\n
          \n
          It’s not.\n
          \n
          > Because Russia attacked them.\n
          \n
          No, Ukraine has been engaged in atrocities in Donbas since 2014 as even western media reported at the time.\n
          \n
          > It is in fact the opposite. No neutral country stays that way for long when Russia wants it’s territory.\n
          \n
          I see you have problems with reading comprehension.\n
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          > If the West had not helped, there would be no Ukraine either. We would be condemning them to a decade of guerilla warfare and oppression. Emboldened by his victory, Putin would look further west.\n
          \n
          If the west didn’t run a coup to overthrow a democratically elected government then there would’ve been no troubles in Ukraine. Period.\n
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          > Ukrainians now fight Russia, both sides are getting exhausted and it all depends on what help Ukraine gets. Your magical peace treaty would just mean Russia trying this again in 5 years or less.\n
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          That’s complete and utter nonsense, and even western media now admits this.\n
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          > You could have used the same arguments to make peace with the Nazis in 1941 and the world would only be worse for it.\n
          \n
          Now that’s what actual false equivalence looks like.
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          > Russian propaganda talking point.\n
          \n
          Ah yes, Russian propaganda point as reported by CNN back in 2014 [twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296](https://twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296)\n
          \n
          There’s even an hour long documentary from France on this [www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs)\n
          \n
          Pretending this just didn’t happen is the height of intellectual dishonesty.\n
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          > Euromaidan was not a coup.\n
          \n
          Yes, it was and there’s overwhelming evidence for it.\n
          \n
          > Cite sources for the first point and military strategy analysts for the second.\n
          \n
          Are you just incapable of using google, I guess that would explain why you believe in nonsense. Here you go. First of all Russian economy is now rapidly growing while the west is going into a recession. This is not a country that’s showing any signs of being exhausted:\n
          \n
          - [newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-op…](https://www.newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-opinion-1861645)\n
          - [reuters.com/…/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-rosstat-2023-12-13/)\n
          - [reuters.com/…/russian-factory-activity-expands-fa…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russian-factory-activity-expands-fastest-pace-seven-years-dec-pmi-2023-12-29/)\n
          \n
          and here’s some recent mainstream media reporting on the state of the war for you to chew on\n
          \n
          - [www.nytimes.com/2024/…/ukraine-russia-war.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/13/world/europe/ukraine-russia-war.html)\n
          - [reuters.com/…/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defen…](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defence-minister-says-2024-01-10/)\n
          - [lepoint.fr/…/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d…](https://www.lepoint.fr/monde/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d-une-debacle-05-01-2024-2549049_24.php)\n
          - [lemonde.fr/…/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-ex…](https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2023/09/27/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-express-discontent-i-repeatedly-told-them-nato-manuals-didn-t-apply_6140349_4.html)\n
          - [spiegel.de/…/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-…](https://www.spiegel.de/politik/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-deutschen-pannen-panzern-a-cd9421ae-4a96-4d4f-983a-6205a063ae15)\n
          - [archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73](https://archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73)\n
          - [telegraph.co.uk/…/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-…](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/12/27/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-tide-war-ukraine/)\n
          - [www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/…/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/ukraine-war-victory-hopes-dim-intl/index.html)\n
          - [cbc.ca/…/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232](https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232)\n
          \n
          and here’s some analysis from military strategists for you\n
          \n
          - [www.russiamatters.org/…/whats-ahead-war-ukraine](https://www.russiamatters.org/analysis/whats-ahead-war-ukraine)\n
          - […substack.com/…/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukra…](https://mearsheimer.substack.com/p/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukraine)\n
          - [rusi.org/…/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challeng…](https://www.rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challenges-and-innovations)\n
          \n
          Russia will win this war, and the only thing the west has achieved was to help destroy Ukraine by sabotaging negotiations in 2022.
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        +body: "Share a source for NATO invading Yugoslavia, Libya, Syria, and Afghanistan, is that what you’re asking there little buddy?"
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        +body: "No, I’m saying that anybody can type in words NATO and Yugoslavia or NATO and Libya into Google and see that you’re a liar."
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          Russian economy is growing while the west is going into a recession. [Russian factory activity grows at fastest pace in over six years](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-factory-activity-grows-fastest-pace-over-six-years-sept-pmi-2023-10-02/), meanwhile [while US manufacturing activity shrinks the most in three years.](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-07-03/us-manufacturing-activity-shrinks-by-most-in-three-years). UK now [can’t even make steel from raw materials.](https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/jan/18/tata-steel-to-shut-down-port-talbot-blast-furnaces-3000-jobs-at-risk)\n
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          Yes, people still bleat about a weaker Russia. 🤡
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          The fact that the west was deeply involved in the coup is well documented even in western media\n
          \n
          - [quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukr…](https://www.quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukraines-2014-revolution-was-due-to-a-CIA-coup) ([archive.ph/BAxYc](https://archive.ph/BAxYc))\n
          - [consortiumnews.com/…/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-i…](https://consortiumnews.com/2022/12/29/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-in-kiev/)\n
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          The foundations of my beliefs are that the west saw itself as the winner of the cold war after USSR dissolved, and decided to renege on all the promises that were made in the 90s. This created increasing tensions with Russia, and eventually led to the war we’re seeing play out in Ukraine. This is a proxy war between NATO and Russia, and it’s following the script that [was outlined by RAND](https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR3063.html).\n
          \n
          The west made a huge miscalculation thinking that it could defeat Russia militarily and economically, and now the whole thing is starting to backfire. NATO is finding that it lacks the industrial base to sustain the conflict. Russia managed to reroute its trade away from the west, which caused immeasurable economic damage to Europe. The world outside the G7 has been increasingly aligning towards Russia and China and away from the west. This proxy war is heralding the end of the unipolar moment that US enjoyed and ushering in multipolarity.\n
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          > I have been using Google for long enough to know that it often shows us what we want to see, not that which is most likely to be correct. :)\n
          \n
          Have you considered that this might be why you still think that Ukraine is winning despite all the evidence to the contrary?\n
          \n
          > Regarding Russian economic data you seem to be flaunting, Russia has made it hard for outside sources to verify any of it.\n
          \n
          Every mainstream western outlet, including the IMF, agrees that Russian economy is growing. No serious economists dispute this.\n
          \n
          > You seem to derive a lot of your opinions from mearsheimer.substack.com source but the sources the author uses to prove your points often come from rt.com which is like, the worst source for this discussion.\n
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          Mearsheimer is just one example, and he is a preeminent political scientist in the US. The reality is that there is propaganda in the west just like there is in Russia, and western media often omits covering things that RT covers. Simply dismissing information based on the source is frankly absurd.\n
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          Incidentally, Mearsheimer gave an entire lecture back in 2014 predicting the events in Ukraine that are currently unfolding, seems to me that he might know what he’s talking about [www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4)\n
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          > I will, however, refrain from posting on lemmy.ml in the future, because I can see that you are a mod of several communities on this instance and your overall conduct in this post has been rather childish and disrespectful. I feel like mods should hold themselves to a higher standard.\n
          \n
          Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
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        +body: "After two years, it’s pretty clear that the west is not capable of doing anything of the sort. All the west managed to achieve was to ensure that hundreds of thousands of people died, and that Ukraine lost large parts of its territory in the process. We now have admissions from Ukrainian negotiators that a peace deal was close to being reached last March before the west sabotaged it."
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          The actual truth is that it’s NATO that’s been constantly expanding towards Russia. It’s also NATO that’s been invading and destroying countries since the end of USSR. Syria, Libya, and Yugoslavia being some prominent examples.\n
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          Meanwhile, Russia tried to resolve this situation diplomatically since 2008 with Minsk agreements that western leaders now openly admit were a delaying tactic by the west.\n
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          Finally, section IX of Ukraine’s 1990 Declaration of State Sovereignty states the following:\n
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          [The Ukrainian SSR solemnly declares its intention of becoming a permanently neutral state that does not participate in military blocs and adheres to three nuclear free principles: to accept, to produce and to purchase no nuclear weapons.](https://web.archive.org/web/20130615031823/https://static.rada.gov.ua/site/postanova_eng/Declaration_of_State_Sovereignty_of_Ukraine_rev1.htm)\n
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          The whole legal basis for the existence of state of Ukraine is predicated on Ukraine staying neutral and not joining military blocs. Ukraine broke the very basis of this agreement when it tried to join NATO.\n
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          Now, thanks to western “help”, Ukraine will lose far more territory than it would have if the deal was done last year, and it may even cease to exist as a state. I can’t wait for you to explain how this actually helps people of Ukraine.
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        +body: "NATO is an aggressive alliance that has invaded and destroyed numerous countries. The fact that you keep pretending that it’s a defensive alliance just shows how utterly dishonest you are."
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          > False equivalence.\n
          \n
          It’s not.\n
          \n
          > Because Russia attacked them.\n
          \n
          No, Ukraine has been engaged in atrocities in Donbas since 2014 as even western media reported at the time.\n
          \n
          > It is in fact the opposite. No neutral country stays that way for long when Russia wants it’s territory.\n
          \n
          I see you have problems with reading comprehension.\n
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          > If the West had not helped, there would be no Ukraine either. We would be condemning them to a decade of guerilla warfare and oppression. Emboldened by his victory, Putin would look further west.\n
          \n
          If the west didn’t run a coup to overthrow a democratically elected government then there would’ve been no troubles in Ukraine. Period.\n
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          > Ukrainians now fight Russia, both sides are getting exhausted and it all depends on what help Ukraine gets. Your magical peace treaty would just mean Russia trying this again in 5 years or less.\n
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          That’s complete and utter nonsense, and even western media now admits this.\n
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          > You could have used the same arguments to make peace with the Nazis in 1941 and the world would only be worse for it.\n
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          Now that’s what actual false equivalence looks like.
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          > Russian propaganda talking point.\n
          \n
          Ah yes, Russian propaganda point as reported by CNN back in 2014 [twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296](https://twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296)\n
          \n
          There’s even an hour long documentary from France on this [www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs)\n
          \n
          Pretending this just didn’t happen is the height of intellectual dishonesty.\n
          \n
          > Euromaidan was not a coup.\n
          \n
          Yes, it was and there’s overwhelming evidence for it.\n
          \n
          > Cite sources for the first point and military strategy analysts for the second.\n
          \n
          Are you just incapable of using google, I guess that would explain why you believe in nonsense. Here you go. First of all Russian economy is now rapidly growing while the west is going into a recession. This is not a country that’s showing any signs of being exhausted:\n
          \n
          - [newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-op…](https://www.newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-opinion-1861645)\n
          - [reuters.com/…/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-rosstat-2023-12-13/)\n
          - [reuters.com/…/russian-factory-activity-expands-fa…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russian-factory-activity-expands-fastest-pace-seven-years-dec-pmi-2023-12-29/)\n
          \n
          and here’s some recent mainstream media reporting on the state of the war for you to chew on\n
          \n
          - [www.nytimes.com/2024/…/ukraine-russia-war.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/13/world/europe/ukraine-russia-war.html)\n
          - [reuters.com/…/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defen…](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defence-minister-says-2024-01-10/)\n
          - [lepoint.fr/…/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d…](https://www.lepoint.fr/monde/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d-une-debacle-05-01-2024-2549049_24.php)\n
          - [lemonde.fr/…/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-ex…](https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2023/09/27/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-express-discontent-i-repeatedly-told-them-nato-manuals-didn-t-apply_6140349_4.html)\n
          - [spiegel.de/…/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-…](https://www.spiegel.de/politik/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-deutschen-pannen-panzern-a-cd9421ae-4a96-4d4f-983a-6205a063ae15)\n
          - [archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73](https://archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73)\n
          - [telegraph.co.uk/…/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-…](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/12/27/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-tide-war-ukraine/)\n
          - [www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/…/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/ukraine-war-victory-hopes-dim-intl/index.html)\n
          - [cbc.ca/…/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232](https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232)\n
          \n
          and here’s some analysis from military strategists for you\n
          \n
          - [www.russiamatters.org/…/whats-ahead-war-ukraine](https://www.russiamatters.org/analysis/whats-ahead-war-ukraine)\n
          - […substack.com/…/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukra…](https://mearsheimer.substack.com/p/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukraine)\n
          - [rusi.org/…/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challeng…](https://www.rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challenges-and-innovations)\n
          \n
          Russia will win this war, and the only thing the west has achieved was to help destroy Ukraine by sabotaging negotiations in 2022.
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        +body: "Share a source for NATO invading Yugoslavia, Libya, Syria, and Afghanistan, is that what you’re asking there little buddy?"
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          Russian economy is growing while the west is going into a recession. [Russian factory activity grows at fastest pace in over six years](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-factory-activity-grows-fastest-pace-over-six-years-sept-pmi-2023-10-02/), meanwhile [while US manufacturing activity shrinks the most in three years.](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-07-03/us-manufacturing-activity-shrinks-by-most-in-three-years). UK now [can’t even make steel from raw materials.](https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/jan/18/tata-steel-to-shut-down-port-talbot-blast-furnaces-3000-jobs-at-risk)\n
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          Yes, people still bleat about a weaker Russia. 🤡
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        +body: "Here’s an idea go sign up as a volunteer in Ukraine and fight yourself instead of cheering on for other people to die for you, you disgusting sack of shit."
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          The fact that the west was deeply involved in the coup is well documented even in western media\n
          \n
          - [quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukr…](https://www.quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukraines-2014-revolution-was-due-to-a-CIA-coup) ([archive.ph/BAxYc](https://archive.ph/BAxYc))\n
          - [consortiumnews.com/…/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-i…](https://consortiumnews.com/2022/12/29/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-in-kiev/)\n
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          The foundations of my beliefs are that the west saw itself as the winner of the cold war after USSR dissolved, and decided to renege on all the promises that were made in the 90s. This created increasing tensions with Russia, and eventually led to the war we’re seeing play out in Ukraine. This is a proxy war between NATO and Russia, and it’s following the script that [was outlined by RAND](https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR3063.html).\n
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          The west made a huge miscalculation thinking that it could defeat Russia militarily and economically, and now the whole thing is starting to backfire. NATO is finding that it lacks the industrial base to sustain the conflict. Russia managed to reroute its trade away from the west, which caused immeasurable economic damage to Europe. The world outside the G7 has been increasingly aligning towards Russia and China and away from the west. This proxy war is heralding the end of the unipolar moment that US enjoyed and ushering in multipolarity.\n
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          > I have been using Google for long enough to know that it often shows us what we want to see, not that which is most likely to be correct. :)\n
          \n
          Have you considered that this might be why you still think that Ukraine is winning despite all the evidence to the contrary?\n
          \n
          > Regarding Russian economic data you seem to be flaunting, Russia has made it hard for outside sources to verify any of it.\n
          \n
          Every mainstream western outlet, including the IMF, agrees that Russian economy is growing. No serious economists dispute this.\n
          \n
          > You seem to derive a lot of your opinions from mearsheimer.substack.com source but the sources the author uses to prove your points often come from rt.com which is like, the worst source for this discussion.\n
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          Mearsheimer is just one example, and he is a preeminent political scientist in the US. The reality is that there is propaganda in the west just like there is in Russia, and western media often omits covering things that RT covers. Simply dismissing information based on the source is frankly absurd.\n
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          Incidentally, Mearsheimer gave an entire lecture back in 2014 predicting the events in Ukraine that are currently unfolding, seems to me that he might know what he’s talking about [www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4)\n
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          > I will, however, refrain from posting on lemmy.ml in the future, because I can see that you are a mod of several communities on this instance and your overall conduct in this post has been rather childish and disrespectful. I feel like mods should hold themselves to a higher standard.\n
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          Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
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          The actual truth is that it’s NATO that’s been constantly expanding towards Russia. It’s also NATO that’s been invading and destroying countries since the end of USSR. Syria, Libya, and Yugoslavia being some prominent examples.\n
          \n
          Meanwhile, Russia tried to resolve this situation diplomatically since 2008 with Minsk agreements that western leaders now openly admit were a delaying tactic by the west.\n
          \n
          Finally, section IX of Ukraine’s 1990 Declaration of State Sovereignty states the following:\n
          \n
          [The Ukrainian SSR solemnly declares its intention of becoming a permanently neutral state that does not participate in military blocs and adheres to three nuclear free principles: to accept, to produce and to purchase no nuclear weapons.](https://web.archive.org/web/20130615031823/https://static.rada.gov.ua/site/postanova_eng/Declaration_of_State_Sovereignty_of_Ukraine_rev1.htm)\n
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          The whole legal basis for the existence of state of Ukraine is predicated on Ukraine staying neutral and not joining military blocs. Ukraine broke the very basis of this agreement when it tried to join NATO.\n
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          Now, thanks to western “help”, Ukraine will lose far more territory than it would have if the deal was done last year, and it may even cease to exist as a state. I can’t wait for you to explain how this actually helps people of Ukraine.
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        +body: "NATO is an aggressive alliance that has invaded and destroyed numerous countries. The fact that you keep pretending that it’s a defensive alliance just shows how utterly dishonest you are."
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          > False equivalence.\n
          \n
          It’s not.\n
          \n
          > Because Russia attacked them.\n
          \n
          No, Ukraine has been engaged in atrocities in Donbas since 2014 as even western media reported at the time.\n
          \n
          > It is in fact the opposite. No neutral country stays that way for long when Russia wants it’s territory.\n
          \n
          I see you have problems with reading comprehension.\n
          \n
          > If the West had not helped, there would be no Ukraine either. We would be condemning them to a decade of guerilla warfare and oppression. Emboldened by his victory, Putin would look further west.\n
          \n
          If the west didn’t run a coup to overthrow a democratically elected government then there would’ve been no troubles in Ukraine. Period.\n
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          > Ukrainians now fight Russia, both sides are getting exhausted and it all depends on what help Ukraine gets. Your magical peace treaty would just mean Russia trying this again in 5 years or less.\n
          \n
          That’s complete and utter nonsense, and even western media now admits this.\n
          \n
          > You could have used the same arguments to make peace with the Nazis in 1941 and the world would only be worse for it.\n
          \n
          Now that’s what actual false equivalence looks like.
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          > Russian propaganda talking point.\n
          \n
          Ah yes, Russian propaganda point as reported by CNN back in 2014 [twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296](https://twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296)\n
          \n
          There’s even an hour long documentary from France on this [www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs)\n
          \n
          Pretending this just didn’t happen is the height of intellectual dishonesty.\n
          \n
          > Euromaidan was not a coup.\n
          \n
          Yes, it was and there’s overwhelming evidence for it.\n
          \n
          > Cite sources for the first point and military strategy analysts for the second.\n
          \n
          Are you just incapable of using google, I guess that would explain why you believe in nonsense. Here you go. First of all Russian economy is now rapidly growing while the west is going into a recession. This is not a country that’s showing any signs of being exhausted:\n
          \n
          - [newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-op…](https://www.newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-opinion-1861645)\n
          - [reuters.com/…/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-rosstat-2023-12-13/)\n
          - [reuters.com/…/russian-factory-activity-expands-fa…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russian-factory-activity-expands-fastest-pace-seven-years-dec-pmi-2023-12-29/)\n
          \n
          and here’s some recent mainstream media reporting on the state of the war for you to chew on\n
          \n
          - [www.nytimes.com/2024/…/ukraine-russia-war.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/13/world/europe/ukraine-russia-war.html)\n
          - [reuters.com/…/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defen…](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defence-minister-says-2024-01-10/)\n
          - [lepoint.fr/…/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d…](https://www.lepoint.fr/monde/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d-une-debacle-05-01-2024-2549049_24.php)\n
          - [lemonde.fr/…/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-ex…](https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2023/09/27/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-express-discontent-i-repeatedly-told-them-nato-manuals-didn-t-apply_6140349_4.html)\n
          - [spiegel.de/…/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-…](https://www.spiegel.de/politik/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-deutschen-pannen-panzern-a-cd9421ae-4a96-4d4f-983a-6205a063ae15)\n
          - [archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73](https://archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73)\n
          - [telegraph.co.uk/…/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-…](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/12/27/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-tide-war-ukraine/)\n
          - [www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/…/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/ukraine-war-victory-hopes-dim-intl/index.html)\n
          - [cbc.ca/…/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232](https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232)\n
          \n
          and here’s some analysis from military strategists for you\n
          \n
          - [www.russiamatters.org/…/whats-ahead-war-ukraine](https://www.russiamatters.org/analysis/whats-ahead-war-ukraine)\n
          - […substack.com/…/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukra…](https://mearsheimer.substack.com/p/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukraine)\n
          - [rusi.org/…/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challeng…](https://www.rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challenges-and-innovations)\n
          \n
          Russia will win this war, and the only thing the west has achieved was to help destroy Ukraine by sabotaging negotiations in 2022.
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        +body: "Share a source for NATO invading Yugoslavia, Libya, Syria, and Afghanistan, is that what you’re asking there little buddy?"
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        +body: "No, I’m saying that anybody can type in words NATO and Yugoslavia or NATO and Libya into Google and see that you’re a liar."
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        +body: "😂"
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        +body: "Do you perhaps make bad faith arguments when you have nothing of value to add to the discussion?"
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          Russian economy is growing while the west is going into a recession. [Russian factory activity grows at fastest pace in over six years](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-factory-activity-grows-fastest-pace-over-six-years-sept-pmi-2023-10-02/), meanwhile [while US manufacturing activity shrinks the most in three years.](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-07-03/us-manufacturing-activity-shrinks-by-most-in-three-years). UK now [can’t even make steel from raw materials.](https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/jan/18/tata-steel-to-shut-down-port-talbot-blast-furnaces-3000-jobs-at-risk)\n
          \n
          Yes, people still bleat about a weaker Russia. 🤡
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        +body: "Here’s an idea go sign up as a volunteer in Ukraine and fight yourself instead of cheering on for other people to die for you, you disgusting sack of shit."
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        +body: "I see somebody is projecting"
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          The fact that the west was deeply involved in the coup is well documented even in western media\n
          \n
          - [quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukr…](https://www.quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukraines-2014-revolution-was-due-to-a-CIA-coup) ([archive.ph/BAxYc](https://archive.ph/BAxYc))\n
          - [consortiumnews.com/…/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-i…](https://consortiumnews.com/2022/12/29/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-in-kiev/)\n
          \n
          The foundations of my beliefs are that the west saw itself as the winner of the cold war after USSR dissolved, and decided to renege on all the promises that were made in the 90s. This created increasing tensions with Russia, and eventually led to the war we’re seeing play out in Ukraine. This is a proxy war between NATO and Russia, and it’s following the script that [was outlined by RAND](https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR3063.html).\n
          \n
          The west made a huge miscalculation thinking that it could defeat Russia militarily and economically, and now the whole thing is starting to backfire. NATO is finding that it lacks the industrial base to sustain the conflict. Russia managed to reroute its trade away from the west, which caused immeasurable economic damage to Europe. The world outside the G7 has been increasingly aligning towards Russia and China and away from the west. This proxy war is heralding the end of the unipolar moment that US enjoyed and ushering in multipolarity.\n
          \n
          > I have been using Google for long enough to know that it often shows us what we want to see, not that which is most likely to be correct. :)\n
          \n
          Have you considered that this might be why you still think that Ukraine is winning despite all the evidence to the contrary?\n
          \n
          > Regarding Russian economic data you seem to be flaunting, Russia has made it hard for outside sources to verify any of it.\n
          \n
          Every mainstream western outlet, including the IMF, agrees that Russian economy is growing. No serious economists dispute this.\n
          \n
          > You seem to derive a lot of your opinions from mearsheimer.substack.com source but the sources the author uses to prove your points often come from rt.com which is like, the worst source for this discussion.\n
          \n
          Mearsheimer is just one example, and he is a preeminent political scientist in the US. The reality is that there is propaganda in the west just like there is in Russia, and western media often omits covering things that RT covers. Simply dismissing information based on the source is frankly absurd.\n
          \n
          Incidentally, Mearsheimer gave an entire lecture back in 2014 predicting the events in Ukraine that are currently unfolding, seems to me that he might know what he’s talking about [www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4)\n
          \n
          > I will, however, refrain from posting on lemmy.ml in the future, because I can see that you are a mod of several communities on this instance and your overall conduct in this post has been rather childish and disrespectful. I feel like mods should hold themselves to a higher standard.\n
          \n
          Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
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        +body: "NATO is an aggressive alliance that has invaded and destroyed numerous countries. The fact that you keep pretending that it’s a defensive alliance just shows how utterly dishonest you are."
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          > False equivalence.\n
          \n
          It’s not.\n
          \n
          > Because Russia attacked them.\n
          \n
          No, Ukraine has been engaged in atrocities in Donbas since 2014 as even western media reported at the time.\n
          \n
          > It is in fact the opposite. No neutral country stays that way for long when Russia wants it’s territory.\n
          \n
          I see you have problems with reading comprehension.\n
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          > If the West had not helped, there would be no Ukraine either. We would be condemning them to a decade of guerilla warfare and oppression. Emboldened by his victory, Putin would look further west.\n
          \n
          If the west didn’t run a coup to overthrow a democratically elected government then there would’ve been no troubles in Ukraine. Period.\n
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          > Ukrainians now fight Russia, both sides are getting exhausted and it all depends on what help Ukraine gets. Your magical peace treaty would just mean Russia trying this again in 5 years or less.\n
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          That’s complete and utter nonsense, and even western media now admits this.\n
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          > You could have used the same arguments to make peace with the Nazis in 1941 and the world would only be worse for it.\n
          \n
          Now that’s what actual false equivalence looks like.
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          > Russian propaganda talking point.\n
          \n
          Ah yes, Russian propaganda point as reported by CNN back in 2014 [twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296](https://twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296)\n
          \n
          There’s even an hour long documentary from France on this [www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs)\n
          \n
          Pretending this just didn’t happen is the height of intellectual dishonesty.\n
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          > Euromaidan was not a coup.\n
          \n
          Yes, it was and there’s overwhelming evidence for it.\n
          \n
          > Cite sources for the first point and military strategy analysts for the second.\n
          \n
          Are you just incapable of using google, I guess that would explain why you believe in nonsense. Here you go. First of all Russian economy is now rapidly growing while the west is going into a recession. This is not a country that’s showing any signs of being exhausted:\n
          \n
          - [newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-op…](https://www.newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-opinion-1861645)\n
          - [reuters.com/…/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-rosstat-2023-12-13/)\n
          - [reuters.com/…/russian-factory-activity-expands-fa…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russian-factory-activity-expands-fastest-pace-seven-years-dec-pmi-2023-12-29/)\n
          \n
          and here’s some recent mainstream media reporting on the state of the war for you to chew on\n
          \n
          - [www.nytimes.com/2024/…/ukraine-russia-war.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/13/world/europe/ukraine-russia-war.html)\n
          - [reuters.com/…/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defen…](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defence-minister-says-2024-01-10/)\n
          - [lepoint.fr/…/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d…](https://www.lepoint.fr/monde/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d-une-debacle-05-01-2024-2549049_24.php)\n
          - [lemonde.fr/…/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-ex…](https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2023/09/27/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-express-discontent-i-repeatedly-told-them-nato-manuals-didn-t-apply_6140349_4.html)\n
          - [spiegel.de/…/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-…](https://www.spiegel.de/politik/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-deutschen-pannen-panzern-a-cd9421ae-4a96-4d4f-983a-6205a063ae15)\n
          - [archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73](https://archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73)\n
          - [telegraph.co.uk/…/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-…](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/12/27/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-tide-war-ukraine/)\n
          - [www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/…/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/ukraine-war-victory-hopes-dim-intl/index.html)\n
          - [cbc.ca/…/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232](https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232)\n
          \n
          and here’s some analysis from military strategists for you\n
          \n
          - [www.russiamatters.org/…/whats-ahead-war-ukraine](https://www.russiamatters.org/analysis/whats-ahead-war-ukraine)\n
          - […substack.com/…/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukra…](https://mearsheimer.substack.com/p/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukraine)\n
          - [rusi.org/…/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challeng…](https://www.rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challenges-and-innovations)\n
          \n
          Russia will win this war, and the only thing the west has achieved was to help destroy Ukraine by sabotaging negotiations in 2022.
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        +body: "Share a source for NATO invading Yugoslavia, Libya, Syria, and Afghanistan, is that what you’re asking there little buddy?"
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        +body: "🤡"
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          Russian economy is growing while the west is going into a recession. [Russian factory activity grows at fastest pace in over six years](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-factory-activity-grows-fastest-pace-over-six-years-sept-pmi-2023-10-02/), meanwhile [while US manufacturing activity shrinks the most in three years.](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-07-03/us-manufacturing-activity-shrinks-by-most-in-three-years). UK now [can’t even make steel from raw materials.](https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/jan/18/tata-steel-to-shut-down-port-talbot-blast-furnaces-3000-jobs-at-risk)\n
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          Yes, people still bleat about a weaker Russia. 🤡
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          The fact that the west was deeply involved in the coup is well documented even in western media\n
          \n
          - [quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukr…](https://www.quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukraines-2014-revolution-was-due-to-a-CIA-coup) ([archive.ph/BAxYc](https://archive.ph/BAxYc))\n
          - [consortiumnews.com/…/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-i…](https://consortiumnews.com/2022/12/29/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-in-kiev/)\n
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          The foundations of my beliefs are that the west saw itself as the winner of the cold war after USSR dissolved, and decided to renege on all the promises that were made in the 90s. This created increasing tensions with Russia, and eventually led to the war we’re seeing play out in Ukraine. This is a proxy war between NATO and Russia, and it’s following the script that [was outlined by RAND](https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR3063.html).\n
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          The west made a huge miscalculation thinking that it could defeat Russia militarily and economically, and now the whole thing is starting to backfire. NATO is finding that it lacks the industrial base to sustain the conflict. Russia managed to reroute its trade away from the west, which caused immeasurable economic damage to Europe. The world outside the G7 has been increasingly aligning towards Russia and China and away from the west. This proxy war is heralding the end of the unipolar moment that US enjoyed and ushering in multipolarity.\n
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          > I have been using Google for long enough to know that it often shows us what we want to see, not that which is most likely to be correct. :)\n
          \n
          Have you considered that this might be why you still think that Ukraine is winning despite all the evidence to the contrary?\n
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          > Regarding Russian economic data you seem to be flaunting, Russia has made it hard for outside sources to verify any of it.\n
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          Every mainstream western outlet, including the IMF, agrees that Russian economy is growing. No serious economists dispute this.\n
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          > You seem to derive a lot of your opinions from mearsheimer.substack.com source but the sources the author uses to prove your points often come from rt.com which is like, the worst source for this discussion.\n
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          Mearsheimer is just one example, and he is a preeminent political scientist in the US. The reality is that there is propaganda in the west just like there is in Russia, and western media often omits covering things that RT covers. Simply dismissing information based on the source is frankly absurd.\n
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          Incidentally, Mearsheimer gave an entire lecture back in 2014 predicting the events in Ukraine that are currently unfolding, seems to me that he might know what he’s talking about [www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4)\n
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          > I will, however, refrain from posting on lemmy.ml in the future, because I can see that you are a mod of several communities on this instance and your overall conduct in this post has been rather childish and disrespectful. I feel like mods should hold themselves to a higher standard.\n
          \n
          Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
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        +body: "After two years, it’s pretty clear that the west is not capable of doing anything of the sort. All the west managed to achieve was to ensure that hundreds of thousands of people died, and that Ukraine lost large parts of its territory in the process. We now have admissions from Ukrainian negotiators that a peace deal was close to being reached last March before the west sabotaged it."
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          The actual truth is that it’s NATO that’s been constantly expanding towards Russia. It’s also NATO that’s been invading and destroying countries since the end of USSR. Syria, Libya, and Yugoslavia being some prominent examples.\n
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          Meanwhile, Russia tried to resolve this situation diplomatically since 2008 with Minsk agreements that western leaders now openly admit were a delaying tactic by the west.\n
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          Finally, section IX of Ukraine’s 1990 Declaration of State Sovereignty states the following:\n
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          [The Ukrainian SSR solemnly declares its intention of becoming a permanently neutral state that does not participate in military blocs and adheres to three nuclear free principles: to accept, to produce and to purchase no nuclear weapons.](https://web.archive.org/web/20130615031823/https://static.rada.gov.ua/site/postanova_eng/Declaration_of_State_Sovereignty_of_Ukraine_rev1.htm)\n
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          The whole legal basis for the existence of state of Ukraine is predicated on Ukraine staying neutral and not joining military blocs. Ukraine broke the very basis of this agreement when it tried to join NATO.\n
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          Now, thanks to western “help”, Ukraine will lose far more territory than it would have if the deal was done last year, and it may even cease to exist as a state. I can’t wait for you to explain how this actually helps people of Ukraine.
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        +body: "NATO is an aggressive alliance that has invaded and destroyed numerous countries. The fact that you keep pretending that it’s a defensive alliance just shows how utterly dishonest you are."
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          > False equivalence.\n
          \n
          It’s not.\n
          \n
          > Because Russia attacked them.\n
          \n
          No, Ukraine has been engaged in atrocities in Donbas since 2014 as even western media reported at the time.\n
          \n
          > It is in fact the opposite. No neutral country stays that way for long when Russia wants it’s territory.\n
          \n
          I see you have problems with reading comprehension.\n
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          > If the West had not helped, there would be no Ukraine either. We would be condemning them to a decade of guerilla warfare and oppression. Emboldened by his victory, Putin would look further west.\n
          \n
          If the west didn’t run a coup to overthrow a democratically elected government then there would’ve been no troubles in Ukraine. Period.\n
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          > Ukrainians now fight Russia, both sides are getting exhausted and it all depends on what help Ukraine gets. Your magical peace treaty would just mean Russia trying this again in 5 years or less.\n
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          That’s complete and utter nonsense, and even western media now admits this.\n
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          > You could have used the same arguments to make peace with the Nazis in 1941 and the world would only be worse for it.\n
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          Now that’s what actual false equivalence looks like.
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          > Russian propaganda talking point.\n
          \n
          Ah yes, Russian propaganda point as reported by CNN back in 2014 [twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296](https://twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296)\n
          \n
          There’s even an hour long documentary from France on this [www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs)\n
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          Pretending this just didn’t happen is the height of intellectual dishonesty.\n
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          > Euromaidan was not a coup.\n
          \n
          Yes, it was and there’s overwhelming evidence for it.\n
          \n
          > Cite sources for the first point and military strategy analysts for the second.\n
          \n
          Are you just incapable of using google, I guess that would explain why you believe in nonsense. Here you go. First of all Russian economy is now rapidly growing while the west is going into a recession. This is not a country that’s showing any signs of being exhausted:\n
          \n
          - [newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-op…](https://www.newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-opinion-1861645)\n
          - [reuters.com/…/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-rosstat-2023-12-13/)\n
          - [reuters.com/…/russian-factory-activity-expands-fa…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russian-factory-activity-expands-fastest-pace-seven-years-dec-pmi-2023-12-29/)\n
          \n
          and here’s some recent mainstream media reporting on the state of the war for you to chew on\n
          \n
          - [www.nytimes.com/2024/…/ukraine-russia-war.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/13/world/europe/ukraine-russia-war.html)\n
          - [reuters.com/…/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defen…](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defence-minister-says-2024-01-10/)\n
          - [lepoint.fr/…/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d…](https://www.lepoint.fr/monde/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d-une-debacle-05-01-2024-2549049_24.php)\n
          - [lemonde.fr/…/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-ex…](https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2023/09/27/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-express-discontent-i-repeatedly-told-them-nato-manuals-didn-t-apply_6140349_4.html)\n
          - [spiegel.de/…/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-…](https://www.spiegel.de/politik/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-deutschen-pannen-panzern-a-cd9421ae-4a96-4d4f-983a-6205a063ae15)\n
          - [archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73](https://archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73)\n
          - [telegraph.co.uk/…/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-…](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/12/27/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-tide-war-ukraine/)\n
          - [www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/…/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/ukraine-war-victory-hopes-dim-intl/index.html)\n
          - [cbc.ca/…/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232](https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232)\n
          \n
          and here’s some analysis from military strategists for you\n
          \n
          - [www.russiamatters.org/…/whats-ahead-war-ukraine](https://www.russiamatters.org/analysis/whats-ahead-war-ukraine)\n
          - […substack.com/…/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukra…](https://mearsheimer.substack.com/p/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukraine)\n
          - [rusi.org/…/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challeng…](https://www.rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challenges-and-innovations)\n
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          Russia will win this war, and the only thing the west has achieved was to help destroy Ukraine by sabotaging negotiations in 2022.
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          Russian economy is growing while the west is going into a recession. [Russian factory activity grows at fastest pace in over six years](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-factory-activity-grows-fastest-pace-over-six-years-sept-pmi-2023-10-02/), meanwhile [while US manufacturing activity shrinks the most in three years.](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-07-03/us-manufacturing-activity-shrinks-by-most-in-three-years). UK now [can’t even make steel from raw materials.](https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/jan/18/tata-steel-to-shut-down-port-talbot-blast-furnaces-3000-jobs-at-risk)\n
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          The fact that the west was deeply involved in the coup is well documented even in western media\n
          \n
          - [quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukr…](https://www.quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukraines-2014-revolution-was-due-to-a-CIA-coup) ([archive.ph/BAxYc](https://archive.ph/BAxYc))\n
          - [consortiumnews.com/…/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-i…](https://consortiumnews.com/2022/12/29/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-in-kiev/)\n
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          The foundations of my beliefs are that the west saw itself as the winner of the cold war after USSR dissolved, and decided to renege on all the promises that were made in the 90s. This created increasing tensions with Russia, and eventually led to the war we’re seeing play out in Ukraine. This is a proxy war between NATO and Russia, and it’s following the script that [was outlined by RAND](https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR3063.html).\n
          \n
          The west made a huge miscalculation thinking that it could defeat Russia militarily and economically, and now the whole thing is starting to backfire. NATO is finding that it lacks the industrial base to sustain the conflict. Russia managed to reroute its trade away from the west, which caused immeasurable economic damage to Europe. The world outside the G7 has been increasingly aligning towards Russia and China and away from the west. This proxy war is heralding the end of the unipolar moment that US enjoyed and ushering in multipolarity.\n
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          > I have been using Google for long enough to know that it often shows us what we want to see, not that which is most likely to be correct. :)\n
          \n
          Have you considered that this might be why you still think that Ukraine is winning despite all the evidence to the contrary?\n
          \n
          > Regarding Russian economic data you seem to be flaunting, Russia has made it hard for outside sources to verify any of it.\n
          \n
          Every mainstream western outlet, including the IMF, agrees that Russian economy is growing. No serious economists dispute this.\n
          \n
          > You seem to derive a lot of your opinions from mearsheimer.substack.com source but the sources the author uses to prove your points often come from rt.com which is like, the worst source for this discussion.\n
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          Mearsheimer is just one example, and he is a preeminent political scientist in the US. The reality is that there is propaganda in the west just like there is in Russia, and western media often omits covering things that RT covers. Simply dismissing information based on the source is frankly absurd.\n
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          Incidentally, Mearsheimer gave an entire lecture back in 2014 predicting the events in Ukraine that are currently unfolding, seems to me that he might know what he’s talking about [www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4)\n
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          > I will, however, refrain from posting on lemmy.ml in the future, because I can see that you are a mod of several communities on this instance and your overall conduct in this post has been rather childish and disrespectful. I feel like mods should hold themselves to a higher standard.\n
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          Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
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            The actual truth is that it’s NATO that’s been constantly expanding towards Russia. It’s also NATO that’s been invading and destroying countries since the end of USSR. Syria, Libya, and Yugoslavia being some prominent examples.\n
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            Meanwhile, Russia tried to resolve this situation diplomatically since 2008 with Minsk agreements that western leaders now openly admit were a delaying tactic by the west.\n
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            Finally, section IX of Ukraine’s 1990 Declaration of State Sovereignty states the following:\n
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            [The Ukrainian SSR solemnly declares its intention of becoming a permanently neutral state that does not participate in military blocs and adheres to three nuclear free principles: to accept, to produce and to purchase no nuclear weapons.](https://web.archive.org/web/20130615031823/https://static.rada.gov.ua/site/postanova_eng/Declaration_of_State_Sovereignty_of_Ukraine_rev1.htm)\n
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            The whole legal basis for the existence of state of Ukraine is predicated on Ukraine staying neutral and not joining military blocs. Ukraine broke the very basis of this agreement when it tried to join NATO.\n
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            Now, thanks to western “help”, Ukraine will lose far more territory than it would have if the deal was done last year, and it may even cease to exist as a state. I can’t wait for you to explain how this actually helps people of Ukraine.
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          +body: "NATO is an aggressive alliance that has invaded and destroyed numerous countries. The fact that you keep pretending that it’s a defensive alliance just shows how utterly dishonest you are."
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            > False equivalence.\n
            \n
            It’s not.\n
            \n
            > Because Russia attacked them.\n
            \n
            No, Ukraine has been engaged in atrocities in Donbas since 2014 as even western media reported at the time.\n
            \n
            > It is in fact the opposite. No neutral country stays that way for long when Russia wants it’s territory.\n
            \n
            I see you have problems with reading comprehension.\n
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            > If the West had not helped, there would be no Ukraine either. We would be condemning them to a decade of guerilla warfare and oppression. Emboldened by his victory, Putin would look further west.\n
            \n
            If the west didn’t run a coup to overthrow a democratically elected government then there would’ve been no troubles in Ukraine. Period.\n
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            > Ukrainians now fight Russia, both sides are getting exhausted and it all depends on what help Ukraine gets. Your magical peace treaty would just mean Russia trying this again in 5 years or less.\n
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            That’s complete and utter nonsense, and even western media now admits this.\n
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            > You could have used the same arguments to make peace with the Nazis in 1941 and the world would only be worse for it.\n
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            Now that’s what actual false equivalence looks like.
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            > Russian propaganda talking point.\n
            \n
            Ah yes, Russian propaganda point as reported by CNN back in 2014 [twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296](https://twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296)\n
            \n
            There’s even an hour long documentary from France on this [www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs)\n
            \n
            Pretending this just didn’t happen is the height of intellectual dishonesty.\n
            \n
            > Euromaidan was not a coup.\n
            \n
            Yes, it was and there’s overwhelming evidence for it.\n
            \n
            > Cite sources for the first point and military strategy analysts for the second.\n
            \n
            Are you just incapable of using google, I guess that would explain why you believe in nonsense. Here you go. First of all Russian economy is now rapidly growing while the west is going into a recession. This is not a country that’s showing any signs of being exhausted:\n
            \n
            - [newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-op…](https://www.newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-opinion-1861645)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-rosstat-2023-12-13/)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russian-factory-activity-expands-fa…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russian-factory-activity-expands-fastest-pace-seven-years-dec-pmi-2023-12-29/)\n
            \n
            and here’s some recent mainstream media reporting on the state of the war for you to chew on\n
            \n
            - [www.nytimes.com/2024/…/ukraine-russia-war.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/13/world/europe/ukraine-russia-war.html)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defen…](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defence-minister-says-2024-01-10/)\n
            - [lepoint.fr/…/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d…](https://www.lepoint.fr/monde/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d-une-debacle-05-01-2024-2549049_24.php)\n
            - [lemonde.fr/…/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-ex…](https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2023/09/27/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-express-discontent-i-repeatedly-told-them-nato-manuals-didn-t-apply_6140349_4.html)\n
            - [spiegel.de/…/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-…](https://www.spiegel.de/politik/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-deutschen-pannen-panzern-a-cd9421ae-4a96-4d4f-983a-6205a063ae15)\n
            - [archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73](https://archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73)\n
            - [telegraph.co.uk/…/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-…](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/12/27/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-tide-war-ukraine/)\n
            - [www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/…/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/ukraine-war-victory-hopes-dim-intl/index.html)\n
            - [cbc.ca/…/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232](https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232)\n
            \n
            and here’s some analysis from military strategists for you\n
            \n
            - [www.russiamatters.org/…/whats-ahead-war-ukraine](https://www.russiamatters.org/analysis/whats-ahead-war-ukraine)\n
            - […substack.com/…/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukra…](https://mearsheimer.substack.com/p/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukraine)\n
            - [rusi.org/…/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challeng…](https://www.rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challenges-and-innovations)\n
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            Russia will win this war, and the only thing the west has achieved was to help destroy Ukraine by sabotaging negotiations in 2022.
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          +body: "Share a source for NATO invading Yugoslavia, Libya, Syria, and Afghanistan, is that what you’re asking there little buddy?"
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            Russian economy is growing while the west is going into a recession. [Russian factory activity grows at fastest pace in over six years](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-factory-activity-grows-fastest-pace-over-six-years-sept-pmi-2023-10-02/), meanwhile [while US manufacturing activity shrinks the most in three years.](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-07-03/us-manufacturing-activity-shrinks-by-most-in-three-years). UK now [can’t even make steel from raw materials.](https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/jan/18/tata-steel-to-shut-down-port-talbot-blast-furnaces-3000-jobs-at-risk)\n
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            Yes, people still bleat about a weaker Russia. 🤡
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          +body: "Here’s an idea go sign up as a volunteer in Ukraine and fight yourself instead of cheering on for other people to die for you, you disgusting sack of shit."
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            The fact that the west was deeply involved in the coup is well documented even in western media\n
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            - [quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukr…](https://www.quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukraines-2014-revolution-was-due-to-a-CIA-coup) ([archive.ph/BAxYc](https://archive.ph/BAxYc))\n
            - [consortiumnews.com/…/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-i…](https://consortiumnews.com/2022/12/29/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-in-kiev/)\n
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            The foundations of my beliefs are that the west saw itself as the winner of the cold war after USSR dissolved, and decided to renege on all the promises that were made in the 90s. This created increasing tensions with Russia, and eventually led to the war we’re seeing play out in Ukraine. This is a proxy war between NATO and Russia, and it’s following the script that [was outlined by RAND](https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR3063.html).\n
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            The west made a huge miscalculation thinking that it could defeat Russia militarily and economically, and now the whole thing is starting to backfire. NATO is finding that it lacks the industrial base to sustain the conflict. Russia managed to reroute its trade away from the west, which caused immeasurable economic damage to Europe. The world outside the G7 has been increasingly aligning towards Russia and China and away from the west. This proxy war is heralding the end of the unipolar moment that US enjoyed and ushering in multipolarity.\n
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            > I have been using Google for long enough to know that it often shows us what we want to see, not that which is most likely to be correct. :)\n
            \n
            Have you considered that this might be why you still think that Ukraine is winning despite all the evidence to the contrary?\n
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            > Regarding Russian economic data you seem to be flaunting, Russia has made it hard for outside sources to verify any of it.\n
            \n
            Every mainstream western outlet, including the IMF, agrees that Russian economy is growing. No serious economists dispute this.\n
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            > You seem to derive a lot of your opinions from mearsheimer.substack.com source but the sources the author uses to prove your points often come from rt.com which is like, the worst source for this discussion.\n
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            Mearsheimer is just one example, and he is a preeminent political scientist in the US. The reality is that there is propaganda in the west just like there is in Russia, and western media often omits covering things that RT covers. Simply dismissing information based on the source is frankly absurd.\n
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            Incidentally, Mearsheimer gave an entire lecture back in 2014 predicting the events in Ukraine that are currently unfolding, seems to me that he might know what he’s talking about [www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4)\n
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            > I will, however, refrain from posting on lemmy.ml in the future, because I can see that you are a mod of several communities on this instance and your overall conduct in this post has been rather childish and disrespectful. I feel like mods should hold themselves to a higher standard.\n
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            Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
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            The actual truth is that it’s NATO that’s been constantly expanding towards Russia. It’s also NATO that’s been invading and destroying countries since the end of USSR. Syria, Libya, and Yugoslavia being some prominent examples.\n
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            The whole legal basis for the existence of state of Ukraine is predicated on Ukraine staying neutral and not joining military blocs. Ukraine broke the very basis of this agreement when it tried to join NATO.\n
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            Now, thanks to western “help”, Ukraine will lose far more territory than it would have if the deal was done last year, and it may even cease to exist as a state. I can’t wait for you to explain how this actually helps people of Ukraine.
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          +body: "NATO is an aggressive alliance that has invaded and destroyed numerous countries. The fact that you keep pretending that it’s a defensive alliance just shows how utterly dishonest you are."
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            > False equivalence.\n
            \n
            It’s not.\n
            \n
            > Because Russia attacked them.\n
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            No, Ukraine has been engaged in atrocities in Donbas since 2014 as even western media reported at the time.\n
            \n
            > It is in fact the opposite. No neutral country stays that way for long when Russia wants it’s territory.\n
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            I see you have problems with reading comprehension.\n
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            > If the West had not helped, there would be no Ukraine either. We would be condemning them to a decade of guerilla warfare and oppression. Emboldened by his victory, Putin would look further west.\n
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            If the west didn’t run a coup to overthrow a democratically elected government then there would’ve been no troubles in Ukraine. Period.\n
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            > Ukrainians now fight Russia, both sides are getting exhausted and it all depends on what help Ukraine gets. Your magical peace treaty would just mean Russia trying this again in 5 years or less.\n
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            That’s complete and utter nonsense, and even western media now admits this.\n
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            > You could have used the same arguments to make peace with the Nazis in 1941 and the world would only be worse for it.\n
            \n
            Now that’s what actual false equivalence looks like.
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            > Russian propaganda talking point.\n
            \n
            Ah yes, Russian propaganda point as reported by CNN back in 2014 [twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296](https://twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296)\n
            \n
            There’s even an hour long documentary from France on this [www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs)\n
            \n
            Pretending this just didn’t happen is the height of intellectual dishonesty.\n
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            > Euromaidan was not a coup.\n
            \n
            Yes, it was and there’s overwhelming evidence for it.\n
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            > Cite sources for the first point and military strategy analysts for the second.\n
            \n
            Are you just incapable of using google, I guess that would explain why you believe in nonsense. Here you go. First of all Russian economy is now rapidly growing while the west is going into a recession. This is not a country that’s showing any signs of being exhausted:\n
            \n
            - [newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-op…](https://www.newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-opinion-1861645)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-rosstat-2023-12-13/)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russian-factory-activity-expands-fa…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russian-factory-activity-expands-fastest-pace-seven-years-dec-pmi-2023-12-29/)\n
            \n
            and here’s some recent mainstream media reporting on the state of the war for you to chew on\n
            \n
            - [www.nytimes.com/2024/…/ukraine-russia-war.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/13/world/europe/ukraine-russia-war.html)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defen…](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defence-minister-says-2024-01-10/)\n
            - [lepoint.fr/…/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d…](https://www.lepoint.fr/monde/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d-une-debacle-05-01-2024-2549049_24.php)\n
            - [lemonde.fr/…/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-ex…](https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2023/09/27/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-express-discontent-i-repeatedly-told-them-nato-manuals-didn-t-apply_6140349_4.html)\n
            - [spiegel.de/…/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-…](https://www.spiegel.de/politik/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-deutschen-pannen-panzern-a-cd9421ae-4a96-4d4f-983a-6205a063ae15)\n
            - [archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73](https://archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73)\n
            - [telegraph.co.uk/…/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-…](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/12/27/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-tide-war-ukraine/)\n
            - [www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/…/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/ukraine-war-victory-hopes-dim-intl/index.html)\n
            - [cbc.ca/…/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232](https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232)\n
            \n
            and here’s some analysis from military strategists for you\n
            \n
            - [www.russiamatters.org/…/whats-ahead-war-ukraine](https://www.russiamatters.org/analysis/whats-ahead-war-ukraine)\n
            - […substack.com/…/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukra…](https://mearsheimer.substack.com/p/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukraine)\n
            - [rusi.org/…/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challeng…](https://www.rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challenges-and-innovations)\n
            \n
            Russia will win this war, and the only thing the west has achieved was to help destroy Ukraine by sabotaging negotiations in 2022.
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          +body: "No, I’m saying that anybody can type in words NATO and Yugoslavia or NATO and Libya into Google and see that you’re a liar."
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            Russian economy is growing while the west is going into a recession. [Russian factory activity grows at fastest pace in over six years](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-factory-activity-grows-fastest-pace-over-six-years-sept-pmi-2023-10-02/), meanwhile [while US manufacturing activity shrinks the most in three years.](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-07-03/us-manufacturing-activity-shrinks-by-most-in-three-years). UK now [can’t even make steel from raw materials.](https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/jan/18/tata-steel-to-shut-down-port-talbot-blast-furnaces-3000-jobs-at-risk)\n
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            Yes, people still bleat about a weaker Russia. 🤡
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          +body: "Here’s an idea go sign up as a volunteer in Ukraine and fight yourself instead of cheering on for other people to die for you, you disgusting sack of shit."
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            The fact that the west was deeply involved in the coup is well documented even in western media\n
            \n
            - [quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukr…](https://www.quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukraines-2014-revolution-was-due-to-a-CIA-coup) ([archive.ph/BAxYc](https://archive.ph/BAxYc))\n
            - [consortiumnews.com/…/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-i…](https://consortiumnews.com/2022/12/29/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-in-kiev/)\n
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            The foundations of my beliefs are that the west saw itself as the winner of the cold war after USSR dissolved, and decided to renege on all the promises that were made in the 90s. This created increasing tensions with Russia, and eventually led to the war we’re seeing play out in Ukraine. This is a proxy war between NATO and Russia, and it’s following the script that [was outlined by RAND](https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR3063.html).\n
            \n
            The west made a huge miscalculation thinking that it could defeat Russia militarily and economically, and now the whole thing is starting to backfire. NATO is finding that it lacks the industrial base to sustain the conflict. Russia managed to reroute its trade away from the west, which caused immeasurable economic damage to Europe. The world outside the G7 has been increasingly aligning towards Russia and China and away from the west. This proxy war is heralding the end of the unipolar moment that US enjoyed and ushering in multipolarity.\n
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            > I have been using Google for long enough to know that it often shows us what we want to see, not that which is most likely to be correct. :)\n
            \n
            Have you considered that this might be why you still think that Ukraine is winning despite all the evidence to the contrary?\n
            \n
            > Regarding Russian economic data you seem to be flaunting, Russia has made it hard for outside sources to verify any of it.\n
            \n
            Every mainstream western outlet, including the IMF, agrees that Russian economy is growing. No serious economists dispute this.\n
            \n
            > You seem to derive a lot of your opinions from mearsheimer.substack.com source but the sources the author uses to prove your points often come from rt.com which is like, the worst source for this discussion.\n
            \n
            Mearsheimer is just one example, and he is a preeminent political scientist in the US. The reality is that there is propaganda in the west just like there is in Russia, and western media often omits covering things that RT covers. Simply dismissing information based on the source is frankly absurd.\n
            \n
            Incidentally, Mearsheimer gave an entire lecture back in 2014 predicting the events in Ukraine that are currently unfolding, seems to me that he might know what he’s talking about [www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4)\n
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            > I will, however, refrain from posting on lemmy.ml in the future, because I can see that you are a mod of several communities on this instance and your overall conduct in this post has been rather childish and disrespectful. I feel like mods should hold themselves to a higher standard.\n
            \n
            Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
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            The actual truth is that it’s NATO that’s been constantly expanding towards Russia. It’s also NATO that’s been invading and destroying countries since the end of USSR. Syria, Libya, and Yugoslavia being some prominent examples.\n
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            Meanwhile, Russia tried to resolve this situation diplomatically since 2008 with Minsk agreements that western leaders now openly admit were a delaying tactic by the west.\n
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            Finally, section IX of Ukraine’s 1990 Declaration of State Sovereignty states the following:\n
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            The whole legal basis for the existence of state of Ukraine is predicated on Ukraine staying neutral and not joining military blocs. Ukraine broke the very basis of this agreement when it tried to join NATO.\n
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            Now, thanks to western “help”, Ukraine will lose far more territory than it would have if the deal was done last year, and it may even cease to exist as a state. I can’t wait for you to explain how this actually helps people of Ukraine.
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          +body: "NATO is an aggressive alliance that has invaded and destroyed numerous countries. The fact that you keep pretending that it’s a defensive alliance just shows how utterly dishonest you are."
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            > False equivalence.\n
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            It’s not.\n
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            > Because Russia attacked them.\n
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            No, Ukraine has been engaged in atrocities in Donbas since 2014 as even western media reported at the time.\n
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            > It is in fact the opposite. No neutral country stays that way for long when Russia wants it’s territory.\n
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            I see you have problems with reading comprehension.\n
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            If the west didn’t run a coup to overthrow a democratically elected government then there would’ve been no troubles in Ukraine. Period.\n
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            That’s complete and utter nonsense, and even western media now admits this.\n
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            Now that’s what actual false equivalence looks like.
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            > Russian propaganda talking point.\n
            \n
            Ah yes, Russian propaganda point as reported by CNN back in 2014 [twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296](https://twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296)\n
            \n
            There’s even an hour long documentary from France on this [www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs)\n
            \n
            Pretending this just didn’t happen is the height of intellectual dishonesty.\n
            \n
            > Euromaidan was not a coup.\n
            \n
            Yes, it was and there’s overwhelming evidence for it.\n
            \n
            > Cite sources for the first point and military strategy analysts for the second.\n
            \n
            Are you just incapable of using google, I guess that would explain why you believe in nonsense. Here you go. First of all Russian economy is now rapidly growing while the west is going into a recession. This is not a country that’s showing any signs of being exhausted:\n
            \n
            - [newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-op…](https://www.newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-opinion-1861645)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-rosstat-2023-12-13/)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russian-factory-activity-expands-fa…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russian-factory-activity-expands-fastest-pace-seven-years-dec-pmi-2023-12-29/)\n
            \n
            and here’s some recent mainstream media reporting on the state of the war for you to chew on\n
            \n
            - [www.nytimes.com/2024/…/ukraine-russia-war.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/13/world/europe/ukraine-russia-war.html)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defen…](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defence-minister-says-2024-01-10/)\n
            - [lepoint.fr/…/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d…](https://www.lepoint.fr/monde/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d-une-debacle-05-01-2024-2549049_24.php)\n
            - [lemonde.fr/…/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-ex…](https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2023/09/27/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-express-discontent-i-repeatedly-told-them-nato-manuals-didn-t-apply_6140349_4.html)\n
            - [spiegel.de/…/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-…](https://www.spiegel.de/politik/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-deutschen-pannen-panzern-a-cd9421ae-4a96-4d4f-983a-6205a063ae15)\n
            - [archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73](https://archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73)\n
            - [telegraph.co.uk/…/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-…](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/12/27/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-tide-war-ukraine/)\n
            - [www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/…/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/ukraine-war-victory-hopes-dim-intl/index.html)\n
            - [cbc.ca/…/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232](https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232)\n
            \n
            and here’s some analysis from military strategists for you\n
            \n
            - [www.russiamatters.org/…/whats-ahead-war-ukraine](https://www.russiamatters.org/analysis/whats-ahead-war-ukraine)\n
            - […substack.com/…/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukra…](https://mearsheimer.substack.com/p/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukraine)\n
            - [rusi.org/…/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challeng…](https://www.rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challenges-and-innovations)\n
            \n
            Russia will win this war, and the only thing the west has achieved was to help destroy Ukraine by sabotaging negotiations in 2022.
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            Russian economy is growing while the west is going into a recession. [Russian factory activity grows at fastest pace in over six years](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-factory-activity-grows-fastest-pace-over-six-years-sept-pmi-2023-10-02/), meanwhile [while US manufacturing activity shrinks the most in three years.](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-07-03/us-manufacturing-activity-shrinks-by-most-in-three-years). UK now [can’t even make steel from raw materials.](https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/jan/18/tata-steel-to-shut-down-port-talbot-blast-furnaces-3000-jobs-at-risk)\n
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            Yes, people still bleat about a weaker Russia. 🤡
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            The fact that the west was deeply involved in the coup is well documented even in western media\n
            \n
            - [quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukr…](https://www.quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukraines-2014-revolution-was-due-to-a-CIA-coup) ([archive.ph/BAxYc](https://archive.ph/BAxYc))\n
            - [consortiumnews.com/…/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-i…](https://consortiumnews.com/2022/12/29/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-in-kiev/)\n
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            The foundations of my beliefs are that the west saw itself as the winner of the cold war after USSR dissolved, and decided to renege on all the promises that were made in the 90s. This created increasing tensions with Russia, and eventually led to the war we’re seeing play out in Ukraine. This is a proxy war between NATO and Russia, and it’s following the script that [was outlined by RAND](https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR3063.html).\n
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            The west made a huge miscalculation thinking that it could defeat Russia militarily and economically, and now the whole thing is starting to backfire. NATO is finding that it lacks the industrial base to sustain the conflict. Russia managed to reroute its trade away from the west, which caused immeasurable economic damage to Europe. The world outside the G7 has been increasingly aligning towards Russia and China and away from the west. This proxy war is heralding the end of the unipolar moment that US enjoyed and ushering in multipolarity.\n
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            > I have been using Google for long enough to know that it often shows us what we want to see, not that which is most likely to be correct. :)\n
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            Have you considered that this might be why you still think that Ukraine is winning despite all the evidence to the contrary?\n
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            > Regarding Russian economic data you seem to be flaunting, Russia has made it hard for outside sources to verify any of it.\n
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            Every mainstream western outlet, including the IMF, agrees that Russian economy is growing. No serious economists dispute this.\n
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            > You seem to derive a lot of your opinions from mearsheimer.substack.com source but the sources the author uses to prove your points often come from rt.com which is like, the worst source for this discussion.\n
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            Mearsheimer is just one example, and he is a preeminent political scientist in the US. The reality is that there is propaganda in the west just like there is in Russia, and western media often omits covering things that RT covers. Simply dismissing information based on the source is frankly absurd.\n
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            Incidentally, Mearsheimer gave an entire lecture back in 2014 predicting the events in Ukraine that are currently unfolding, seems to me that he might know what he’s talking about [www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4)\n
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            > I will, however, refrain from posting on lemmy.ml in the future, because I can see that you are a mod of several communities on this instance and your overall conduct in this post has been rather childish and disrespectful. I feel like mods should hold themselves to a higher standard.\n
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            Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
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            The actual truth is that it’s NATO that’s been constantly expanding towards Russia. It’s also NATO that’s been invading and destroying countries since the end of USSR. Syria, Libya, and Yugoslavia being some prominent examples.\n
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            Meanwhile, Russia tried to resolve this situation diplomatically since 2008 with Minsk agreements that western leaders now openly admit were a delaying tactic by the west.\n
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            Finally, section IX of Ukraine’s 1990 Declaration of State Sovereignty states the following:\n
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            The whole legal basis for the existence of state of Ukraine is predicated on Ukraine staying neutral and not joining military blocs. Ukraine broke the very basis of this agreement when it tried to join NATO.\n
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            Now, thanks to western “help”, Ukraine will lose far more territory than it would have if the deal was done last year, and it may even cease to exist as a state. I can’t wait for you to explain how this actually helps people of Ukraine.
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          +body: "NATO is an aggressive alliance that has invaded and destroyed numerous countries. The fact that you keep pretending that it’s a defensive alliance just shows how utterly dishonest you are."
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            > False equivalence.\n
            \n
            It’s not.\n
            \n
            > Because Russia attacked them.\n
            \n
            No, Ukraine has been engaged in atrocities in Donbas since 2014 as even western media reported at the time.\n
            \n
            > It is in fact the opposite. No neutral country stays that way for long when Russia wants it’s territory.\n
            \n
            I see you have problems with reading comprehension.\n
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            > If the West had not helped, there would be no Ukraine either. We would be condemning them to a decade of guerilla warfare and oppression. Emboldened by his victory, Putin would look further west.\n
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            If the west didn’t run a coup to overthrow a democratically elected government then there would’ve been no troubles in Ukraine. Period.\n
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            > Ukrainians now fight Russia, both sides are getting exhausted and it all depends on what help Ukraine gets. Your magical peace treaty would just mean Russia trying this again in 5 years or less.\n
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            That’s complete and utter nonsense, and even western media now admits this.\n
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            > You could have used the same arguments to make peace with the Nazis in 1941 and the world would only be worse for it.\n
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            Now that’s what actual false equivalence looks like.
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            > Russian propaganda talking point.\n
            \n
            Ah yes, Russian propaganda point as reported by CNN back in 2014 [twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296](https://twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296)\n
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            There’s even an hour long documentary from France on this [www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs)\n
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            Pretending this just didn’t happen is the height of intellectual dishonesty.\n
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            > Euromaidan was not a coup.\n
            \n
            Yes, it was and there’s overwhelming evidence for it.\n
            \n
            > Cite sources for the first point and military strategy analysts for the second.\n
            \n
            Are you just incapable of using google, I guess that would explain why you believe in nonsense. Here you go. First of all Russian economy is now rapidly growing while the west is going into a recession. This is not a country that’s showing any signs of being exhausted:\n
            \n
            - [newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-op…](https://www.newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-opinion-1861645)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-rosstat-2023-12-13/)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russian-factory-activity-expands-fa…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russian-factory-activity-expands-fastest-pace-seven-years-dec-pmi-2023-12-29/)\n
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            and here’s some recent mainstream media reporting on the state of the war for you to chew on\n
            \n
            - [www.nytimes.com/2024/…/ukraine-russia-war.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/13/world/europe/ukraine-russia-war.html)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defen…](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defence-minister-says-2024-01-10/)\n
            - [lepoint.fr/…/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d…](https://www.lepoint.fr/monde/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d-une-debacle-05-01-2024-2549049_24.php)\n
            - [lemonde.fr/…/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-ex…](https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2023/09/27/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-express-discontent-i-repeatedly-told-them-nato-manuals-didn-t-apply_6140349_4.html)\n
            - [spiegel.de/…/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-…](https://www.spiegel.de/politik/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-deutschen-pannen-panzern-a-cd9421ae-4a96-4d4f-983a-6205a063ae15)\n
            - [archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73](https://archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73)\n
            - [telegraph.co.uk/…/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-…](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/12/27/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-tide-war-ukraine/)\n
            - [www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/…/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/ukraine-war-victory-hopes-dim-intl/index.html)\n
            - [cbc.ca/…/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232](https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232)\n
            \n
            and here’s some analysis from military strategists for you\n
            \n
            - [www.russiamatters.org/…/whats-ahead-war-ukraine](https://www.russiamatters.org/analysis/whats-ahead-war-ukraine)\n
            - […substack.com/…/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukra…](https://mearsheimer.substack.com/p/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukraine)\n
            - [rusi.org/…/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challeng…](https://www.rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challenges-and-innovations)\n
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            Russia will win this war, and the only thing the west has achieved was to help destroy Ukraine by sabotaging negotiations in 2022.
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          +body: "Share a source for NATO invading Yugoslavia, Libya, Syria, and Afghanistan, is that what you’re asking there little buddy?"
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            Russian economy is growing while the west is going into a recession. [Russian factory activity grows at fastest pace in over six years](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-factory-activity-grows-fastest-pace-over-six-years-sept-pmi-2023-10-02/), meanwhile [while US manufacturing activity shrinks the most in three years.](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-07-03/us-manufacturing-activity-shrinks-by-most-in-three-years). UK now [can’t even make steel from raw materials.](https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/jan/18/tata-steel-to-shut-down-port-talbot-blast-furnaces-3000-jobs-at-risk)\n
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            Yes, people still bleat about a weaker Russia. 🤡
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          +body: "Here’s an idea go sign up as a volunteer in Ukraine and fight yourself instead of cheering on for other people to die for you, you disgusting sack of shit."
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            The fact that the west was deeply involved in the coup is well documented even in western media\n
            \n
            - [quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukr…](https://www.quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukraines-2014-revolution-was-due-to-a-CIA-coup) ([archive.ph/BAxYc](https://archive.ph/BAxYc))\n
            - [consortiumnews.com/…/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-i…](https://consortiumnews.com/2022/12/29/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-in-kiev/)\n
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            The foundations of my beliefs are that the west saw itself as the winner of the cold war after USSR dissolved, and decided to renege on all the promises that were made in the 90s. This created increasing tensions with Russia, and eventually led to the war we’re seeing play out in Ukraine. This is a proxy war between NATO and Russia, and it’s following the script that [was outlined by RAND](https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR3063.html).\n
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            The west made a huge miscalculation thinking that it could defeat Russia militarily and economically, and now the whole thing is starting to backfire. NATO is finding that it lacks the industrial base to sustain the conflict. Russia managed to reroute its trade away from the west, which caused immeasurable economic damage to Europe. The world outside the G7 has been increasingly aligning towards Russia and China and away from the west. This proxy war is heralding the end of the unipolar moment that US enjoyed and ushering in multipolarity.\n
            \n
            > I have been using Google for long enough to know that it often shows us what we want to see, not that which is most likely to be correct. :)\n
            \n
            Have you considered that this might be why you still think that Ukraine is winning despite all the evidence to the contrary?\n
            \n
            > Regarding Russian economic data you seem to be flaunting, Russia has made it hard for outside sources to verify any of it.\n
            \n
            Every mainstream western outlet, including the IMF, agrees that Russian economy is growing. No serious economists dispute this.\n
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            > You seem to derive a lot of your opinions from mearsheimer.substack.com source but the sources the author uses to prove your points often come from rt.com which is like, the worst source for this discussion.\n
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            Mearsheimer is just one example, and he is a preeminent political scientist in the US. The reality is that there is propaganda in the west just like there is in Russia, and western media often omits covering things that RT covers. Simply dismissing information based on the source is frankly absurd.\n
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            Incidentally, Mearsheimer gave an entire lecture back in 2014 predicting the events in Ukraine that are currently unfolding, seems to me that he might know what he’s talking about [www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4)\n
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            > I will, however, refrain from posting on lemmy.ml in the future, because I can see that you are a mod of several communities on this instance and your overall conduct in this post has been rather childish and disrespectful. I feel like mods should hold themselves to a higher standard.\n
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            Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
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            The actual truth is that it’s NATO that’s been constantly expanding towards Russia. It’s also NATO that’s been invading and destroying countries since the end of USSR. Syria, Libya, and Yugoslavia being some prominent examples.\n
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            Meanwhile, Russia tried to resolve this situation diplomatically since 2008 with Minsk agreements that western leaders now openly admit were a delaying tactic by the west.\n
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            Finally, section IX of Ukraine’s 1990 Declaration of State Sovereignty states the following:\n
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            [The Ukrainian SSR solemnly declares its intention of becoming a permanently neutral state that does not participate in military blocs and adheres to three nuclear free principles: to accept, to produce and to purchase no nuclear weapons.](https://web.archive.org/web/20130615031823/https://static.rada.gov.ua/site/postanova_eng/Declaration_of_State_Sovereignty_of_Ukraine_rev1.htm)\n
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            The whole legal basis for the existence of state of Ukraine is predicated on Ukraine staying neutral and not joining military blocs. Ukraine broke the very basis of this agreement when it tried to join NATO.\n
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            Now, thanks to western “help”, Ukraine will lose far more territory than it would have if the deal was done last year, and it may even cease to exist as a state. I can’t wait for you to explain how this actually helps people of Ukraine.
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          +body: "NATO is an aggressive alliance that has invaded and destroyed numerous countries. The fact that you keep pretending that it’s a defensive alliance just shows how utterly dishonest you are."
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            > False equivalence.\n
            \n
            It’s not.\n
            \n
            > Because Russia attacked them.\n
            \n
            No, Ukraine has been engaged in atrocities in Donbas since 2014 as even western media reported at the time.\n
            \n
            > It is in fact the opposite. No neutral country stays that way for long when Russia wants it’s territory.\n
            \n
            I see you have problems with reading comprehension.\n
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            > If the West had not helped, there would be no Ukraine either. We would be condemning them to a decade of guerilla warfare and oppression. Emboldened by his victory, Putin would look further west.\n
            \n
            If the west didn’t run a coup to overthrow a democratically elected government then there would’ve been no troubles in Ukraine. Period.\n
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            > Ukrainians now fight Russia, both sides are getting exhausted and it all depends on what help Ukraine gets. Your magical peace treaty would just mean Russia trying this again in 5 years or less.\n
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            That’s complete and utter nonsense, and even western media now admits this.\n
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            > You could have used the same arguments to make peace with the Nazis in 1941 and the world would only be worse for it.\n
            \n
            Now that’s what actual false equivalence looks like.
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            > Russian propaganda talking point.\n
            \n
            Ah yes, Russian propaganda point as reported by CNN back in 2014 [twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296](https://twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296)\n
            \n
            There’s even an hour long documentary from France on this [www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs)\n
            \n
            Pretending this just didn’t happen is the height of intellectual dishonesty.\n
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            > Euromaidan was not a coup.\n
            \n
            Yes, it was and there’s overwhelming evidence for it.\n
            \n
            > Cite sources for the first point and military strategy analysts for the second.\n
            \n
            Are you just incapable of using google, I guess that would explain why you believe in nonsense. Here you go. First of all Russian economy is now rapidly growing while the west is going into a recession. This is not a country that’s showing any signs of being exhausted:\n
            \n
            - [newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-op…](https://www.newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-opinion-1861645)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-rosstat-2023-12-13/)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russian-factory-activity-expands-fa…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russian-factory-activity-expands-fastest-pace-seven-years-dec-pmi-2023-12-29/)\n
            \n
            and here’s some recent mainstream media reporting on the state of the war for you to chew on\n
            \n
            - [www.nytimes.com/2024/…/ukraine-russia-war.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/13/world/europe/ukraine-russia-war.html)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defen…](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defence-minister-says-2024-01-10/)\n
            - [lepoint.fr/…/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d…](https://www.lepoint.fr/monde/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d-une-debacle-05-01-2024-2549049_24.php)\n
            - [lemonde.fr/…/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-ex…](https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2023/09/27/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-express-discontent-i-repeatedly-told-them-nato-manuals-didn-t-apply_6140349_4.html)\n
            - [spiegel.de/…/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-…](https://www.spiegel.de/politik/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-deutschen-pannen-panzern-a-cd9421ae-4a96-4d4f-983a-6205a063ae15)\n
            - [archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73](https://archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73)\n
            - [telegraph.co.uk/…/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-…](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/12/27/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-tide-war-ukraine/)\n
            - [www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/…/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/ukraine-war-victory-hopes-dim-intl/index.html)\n
            - [cbc.ca/…/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232](https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232)\n
            \n
            and here’s some analysis from military strategists for you\n
            \n
            - [www.russiamatters.org/…/whats-ahead-war-ukraine](https://www.russiamatters.org/analysis/whats-ahead-war-ukraine)\n
            - […substack.com/…/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukra…](https://mearsheimer.substack.com/p/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukraine)\n
            - [rusi.org/…/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challeng…](https://www.rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challenges-and-innovations)\n
            \n
            Russia will win this war, and the only thing the west has achieved was to help destroy Ukraine by sabotaging negotiations in 2022.
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          +body: "Share a source for NATO invading Yugoslavia, Libya, Syria, and Afghanistan, is that what you’re asking there little buddy?"
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          +body: "No, I’m saying that anybody can type in words NATO and Yugoslavia or NATO and Libya into Google and see that you’re a liar."
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          +body: "Do you perhaps make bad faith arguments when you have nothing of value to add to the discussion?"
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            Russian economy is growing while the west is going into a recession. [Russian factory activity grows at fastest pace in over six years](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-factory-activity-grows-fastest-pace-over-six-years-sept-pmi-2023-10-02/), meanwhile [while US manufacturing activity shrinks the most in three years.](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-07-03/us-manufacturing-activity-shrinks-by-most-in-three-years). UK now [can’t even make steel from raw materials.](https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/jan/18/tata-steel-to-shut-down-port-talbot-blast-furnaces-3000-jobs-at-risk)\n
            \n
            Yes, people still bleat about a weaker Russia. 🤡
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          +body: "Here’s an idea go sign up as a volunteer in Ukraine and fight yourself instead of cheering on for other people to die for you, you disgusting sack of shit."
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          +body: "I see somebody is projecting"
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            The fact that the west was deeply involved in the coup is well documented even in western media\n
            \n
            - [quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukr…](https://www.quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukraines-2014-revolution-was-due-to-a-CIA-coup) ([archive.ph/BAxYc](https://archive.ph/BAxYc))\n
            - [consortiumnews.com/…/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-i…](https://consortiumnews.com/2022/12/29/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-in-kiev/)\n
            \n
            The foundations of my beliefs are that the west saw itself as the winner of the cold war after USSR dissolved, and decided to renege on all the promises that were made in the 90s. This created increasing tensions with Russia, and eventually led to the war we’re seeing play out in Ukraine. This is a proxy war between NATO and Russia, and it’s following the script that [was outlined by RAND](https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR3063.html).\n
            \n
            The west made a huge miscalculation thinking that it could defeat Russia militarily and economically, and now the whole thing is starting to backfire. NATO is finding that it lacks the industrial base to sustain the conflict. Russia managed to reroute its trade away from the west, which caused immeasurable economic damage to Europe. The world outside the G7 has been increasingly aligning towards Russia and China and away from the west. This proxy war is heralding the end of the unipolar moment that US enjoyed and ushering in multipolarity.\n
            \n
            > I have been using Google for long enough to know that it often shows us what we want to see, not that which is most likely to be correct. :)\n
            \n
            Have you considered that this might be why you still think that Ukraine is winning despite all the evidence to the contrary?\n
            \n
            > Regarding Russian economic data you seem to be flaunting, Russia has made it hard for outside sources to verify any of it.\n
            \n
            Every mainstream western outlet, including the IMF, agrees that Russian economy is growing. No serious economists dispute this.\n
            \n
            > You seem to derive a lot of your opinions from mearsheimer.substack.com source but the sources the author uses to prove your points often come from rt.com which is like, the worst source for this discussion.\n
            \n
            Mearsheimer is just one example, and he is a preeminent political scientist in the US. The reality is that there is propaganda in the west just like there is in Russia, and western media often omits covering things that RT covers. Simply dismissing information based on the source is frankly absurd.\n
            \n
            Incidentally, Mearsheimer gave an entire lecture back in 2014 predicting the events in Ukraine that are currently unfolding, seems to me that he might know what he’s talking about [www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4)\n
            \n
            > I will, however, refrain from posting on lemmy.ml in the future, because I can see that you are a mod of several communities on this instance and your overall conduct in this post has been rather childish and disrespectful. I feel like mods should hold themselves to a higher standard.\n
            \n
            Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
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          +body: "NATO is an aggressive alliance that has invaded and destroyed numerous countries. The fact that you keep pretending that it’s a defensive alliance just shows how utterly dishonest you are."
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            > False equivalence.\n
            \n
            It’s not.\n
            \n
            > Because Russia attacked them.\n
            \n
            No, Ukraine has been engaged in atrocities in Donbas since 2014 as even western media reported at the time.\n
            \n
            > It is in fact the opposite. No neutral country stays that way for long when Russia wants it’s territory.\n
            \n
            I see you have problems with reading comprehension.\n
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            > If the West had not helped, there would be no Ukraine either. We would be condemning them to a decade of guerilla warfare and oppression. Emboldened by his victory, Putin would look further west.\n
            \n
            If the west didn’t run a coup to overthrow a democratically elected government then there would’ve been no troubles in Ukraine. Period.\n
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            > Ukrainians now fight Russia, both sides are getting exhausted and it all depends on what help Ukraine gets. Your magical peace treaty would just mean Russia trying this again in 5 years or less.\n
            \n
            That’s complete and utter nonsense, and even western media now admits this.\n
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            > You could have used the same arguments to make peace with the Nazis in 1941 and the world would only be worse for it.\n
            \n
            Now that’s what actual false equivalence looks like.
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            > Russian propaganda talking point.\n
            \n
            Ah yes, Russian propaganda point as reported by CNN back in 2014 [twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296](https://twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296)\n
            \n
            There’s even an hour long documentary from France on this [www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs)\n
            \n
            Pretending this just didn’t happen is the height of intellectual dishonesty.\n
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            > Euromaidan was not a coup.\n
            \n
            Yes, it was and there’s overwhelming evidence for it.\n
            \n
            > Cite sources for the first point and military strategy analysts for the second.\n
            \n
            Are you just incapable of using google, I guess that would explain why you believe in nonsense. Here you go. First of all Russian economy is now rapidly growing while the west is going into a recession. This is not a country that’s showing any signs of being exhausted:\n
            \n
            - [newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-op…](https://www.newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-opinion-1861645)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-rosstat-2023-12-13/)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russian-factory-activity-expands-fa…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russian-factory-activity-expands-fastest-pace-seven-years-dec-pmi-2023-12-29/)\n
            \n
            and here’s some recent mainstream media reporting on the state of the war for you to chew on\n
            \n
            - [www.nytimes.com/2024/…/ukraine-russia-war.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/13/world/europe/ukraine-russia-war.html)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defen…](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defence-minister-says-2024-01-10/)\n
            - [lepoint.fr/…/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d…](https://www.lepoint.fr/monde/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d-une-debacle-05-01-2024-2549049_24.php)\n
            - [lemonde.fr/…/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-ex…](https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2023/09/27/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-express-discontent-i-repeatedly-told-them-nato-manuals-didn-t-apply_6140349_4.html)\n
            - [spiegel.de/…/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-…](https://www.spiegel.de/politik/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-deutschen-pannen-panzern-a-cd9421ae-4a96-4d4f-983a-6205a063ae15)\n
            - [archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73](https://archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73)\n
            - [telegraph.co.uk/…/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-…](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/12/27/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-tide-war-ukraine/)\n
            - [www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/…/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/ukraine-war-victory-hopes-dim-intl/index.html)\n
            - [cbc.ca/…/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232](https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232)\n
            \n
            and here’s some analysis from military strategists for you\n
            \n
            - [www.russiamatters.org/…/whats-ahead-war-ukraine](https://www.russiamatters.org/analysis/whats-ahead-war-ukraine)\n
            - […substack.com/…/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukra…](https://mearsheimer.substack.com/p/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukraine)\n
            - [rusi.org/…/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challeng…](https://www.rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challenges-and-innovations)\n
            \n
            Russia will win this war, and the only thing the west has achieved was to help destroy Ukraine by sabotaging negotiations in 2022.
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          +body: "Share a source for NATO invading Yugoslavia, Libya, Syria, and Afghanistan, is that what you’re asking there little buddy?"
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          +body: "🤡"
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            Russian economy is growing while the west is going into a recession. [Russian factory activity grows at fastest pace in over six years](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-factory-activity-grows-fastest-pace-over-six-years-sept-pmi-2023-10-02/), meanwhile [while US manufacturing activity shrinks the most in three years.](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-07-03/us-manufacturing-activity-shrinks-by-most-in-three-years). UK now [can’t even make steel from raw materials.](https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/jan/18/tata-steel-to-shut-down-port-talbot-blast-furnaces-3000-jobs-at-risk)\n
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            Yes, people still bleat about a weaker Russia. 🤡
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            The fact that the west was deeply involved in the coup is well documented even in western media\n
            \n
            - [quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukr…](https://www.quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukraines-2014-revolution-was-due-to-a-CIA-coup) ([archive.ph/BAxYc](https://archive.ph/BAxYc))\n
            - [consortiumnews.com/…/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-i…](https://consortiumnews.com/2022/12/29/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-in-kiev/)\n
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            The foundations of my beliefs are that the west saw itself as the winner of the cold war after USSR dissolved, and decided to renege on all the promises that were made in the 90s. This created increasing tensions with Russia, and eventually led to the war we’re seeing play out in Ukraine. This is a proxy war between NATO and Russia, and it’s following the script that [was outlined by RAND](https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR3063.html).\n
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            The west made a huge miscalculation thinking that it could defeat Russia militarily and economically, and now the whole thing is starting to backfire. NATO is finding that it lacks the industrial base to sustain the conflict. Russia managed to reroute its trade away from the west, which caused immeasurable economic damage to Europe. The world outside the G7 has been increasingly aligning towards Russia and China and away from the west. This proxy war is heralding the end of the unipolar moment that US enjoyed and ushering in multipolarity.\n
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            > I have been using Google for long enough to know that it often shows us what we want to see, not that which is most likely to be correct. :)\n
            \n
            Have you considered that this might be why you still think that Ukraine is winning despite all the evidence to the contrary?\n
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            > Regarding Russian economic data you seem to be flaunting, Russia has made it hard for outside sources to verify any of it.\n
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            Every mainstream western outlet, including the IMF, agrees that Russian economy is growing. No serious economists dispute this.\n
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            > You seem to derive a lot of your opinions from mearsheimer.substack.com source but the sources the author uses to prove your points often come from rt.com which is like, the worst source for this discussion.\n
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            Mearsheimer is just one example, and he is a preeminent political scientist in the US. The reality is that there is propaganda in the west just like there is in Russia, and western media often omits covering things that RT covers. Simply dismissing information based on the source is frankly absurd.\n
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            Incidentally, Mearsheimer gave an entire lecture back in 2014 predicting the events in Ukraine that are currently unfolding, seems to me that he might know what he’s talking about [www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4)\n
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            > I will, however, refrain from posting on lemmy.ml in the future, because I can see that you are a mod of several communities on this instance and your overall conduct in this post has been rather childish and disrespectful. I feel like mods should hold themselves to a higher standard.\n
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            Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
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          +body: "NATO is an aggressive alliance that has invaded and destroyed numerous countries. The fact that you keep pretending that it’s a defensive alliance just shows how utterly dishonest you are."
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            > False equivalence.\n
            \n
            It’s not.\n
            \n
            > Because Russia attacked them.\n
            \n
            No, Ukraine has been engaged in atrocities in Donbas since 2014 as even western media reported at the time.\n
            \n
            > It is in fact the opposite. No neutral country stays that way for long when Russia wants it’s territory.\n
            \n
            I see you have problems with reading comprehension.\n
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            > If the West had not helped, there would be no Ukraine either. We would be condemning them to a decade of guerilla warfare and oppression. Emboldened by his victory, Putin would look further west.\n
            \n
            If the west didn’t run a coup to overthrow a democratically elected government then there would’ve been no troubles in Ukraine. Period.\n
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            That’s complete and utter nonsense, and even western media now admits this.\n
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            > You could have used the same arguments to make peace with the Nazis in 1941 and the world would only be worse for it.\n
            \n
            Now that’s what actual false equivalence looks like.
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            > Russian propaganda talking point.\n
            \n
            Ah yes, Russian propaganda point as reported by CNN back in 2014 [twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296](https://twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296)\n
            \n
            There’s even an hour long documentary from France on this [www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs)\n
            \n
            Pretending this just didn’t happen is the height of intellectual dishonesty.\n
            \n
            > Euromaidan was not a coup.\n
            \n
            Yes, it was and there’s overwhelming evidence for it.\n
            \n
            > Cite sources for the first point and military strategy analysts for the second.\n
            \n
            Are you just incapable of using google, I guess that would explain why you believe in nonsense. Here you go. First of all Russian economy is now rapidly growing while the west is going into a recession. This is not a country that’s showing any signs of being exhausted:\n
            \n
            - [newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-op…](https://www.newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-opinion-1861645)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-rosstat-2023-12-13/)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russian-factory-activity-expands-fa…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russian-factory-activity-expands-fastest-pace-seven-years-dec-pmi-2023-12-29/)\n
            \n
            and here’s some recent mainstream media reporting on the state of the war for you to chew on\n
            \n
            - [www.nytimes.com/2024/…/ukraine-russia-war.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/13/world/europe/ukraine-russia-war.html)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defen…](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defence-minister-says-2024-01-10/)\n
            - [lepoint.fr/…/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d…](https://www.lepoint.fr/monde/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d-une-debacle-05-01-2024-2549049_24.php)\n
            - [lemonde.fr/…/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-ex…](https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2023/09/27/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-express-discontent-i-repeatedly-told-them-nato-manuals-didn-t-apply_6140349_4.html)\n
            - [spiegel.de/…/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-…](https://www.spiegel.de/politik/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-deutschen-pannen-panzern-a-cd9421ae-4a96-4d4f-983a-6205a063ae15)\n
            - [archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73](https://archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73)\n
            - [telegraph.co.uk/…/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-…](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/12/27/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-tide-war-ukraine/)\n
            - [www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/…/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/ukraine-war-victory-hopes-dim-intl/index.html)\n
            - [cbc.ca/…/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232](https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232)\n
            \n
            and here’s some analysis from military strategists for you\n
            \n
            - [www.russiamatters.org/…/whats-ahead-war-ukraine](https://www.russiamatters.org/analysis/whats-ahead-war-ukraine)\n
            - […substack.com/…/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukra…](https://mearsheimer.substack.com/p/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukraine)\n
            - [rusi.org/…/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challeng…](https://www.rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challenges-and-innovations)\n
            \n
            Russia will win this war, and the only thing the west has achieved was to help destroy Ukraine by sabotaging negotiations in 2022.
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            Russian economy is growing while the west is going into a recession. [Russian factory activity grows at fastest pace in over six years](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-factory-activity-grows-fastest-pace-over-six-years-sept-pmi-2023-10-02/), meanwhile [while US manufacturing activity shrinks the most in three years.](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-07-03/us-manufacturing-activity-shrinks-by-most-in-three-years). UK now [can’t even make steel from raw materials.](https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/jan/18/tata-steel-to-shut-down-port-talbot-blast-furnaces-3000-jobs-at-risk)\n
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            Yes, people still bleat about a weaker Russia. 🤡
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            The fact that the west was deeply involved in the coup is well documented even in western media\n
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            - [quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukr…](https://www.quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukraines-2014-revolution-was-due-to-a-CIA-coup) ([archive.ph/BAxYc](https://archive.ph/BAxYc))\n
            - [consortiumnews.com/…/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-i…](https://consortiumnews.com/2022/12/29/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-in-kiev/)\n
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            The foundations of my beliefs are that the west saw itself as the winner of the cold war after USSR dissolved, and decided to renege on all the promises that were made in the 90s. This created increasing tensions with Russia, and eventually led to the war we’re seeing play out in Ukraine. This is a proxy war between NATO and Russia, and it’s following the script that [was outlined by RAND](https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR3063.html).\n
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            The west made a huge miscalculation thinking that it could defeat Russia militarily and economically, and now the whole thing is starting to backfire. NATO is finding that it lacks the industrial base to sustain the conflict. Russia managed to reroute its trade away from the west, which caused immeasurable economic damage to Europe. The world outside the G7 has been increasingly aligning towards Russia and China and away from the west. This proxy war is heralding the end of the unipolar moment that US enjoyed and ushering in multipolarity.\n
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            > I have been using Google for long enough to know that it often shows us what we want to see, not that which is most likely to be correct. :)\n
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            Have you considered that this might be why you still think that Ukraine is winning despite all the evidence to the contrary?\n
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            > Regarding Russian economic data you seem to be flaunting, Russia has made it hard for outside sources to verify any of it.\n
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            Every mainstream western outlet, including the IMF, agrees that Russian economy is growing. No serious economists dispute this.\n
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            > You seem to derive a lot of your opinions from mearsheimer.substack.com source but the sources the author uses to prove your points often come from rt.com which is like, the worst source for this discussion.\n
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            Mearsheimer is just one example, and he is a preeminent political scientist in the US. The reality is that there is propaganda in the west just like there is in Russia, and western media often omits covering things that RT covers. Simply dismissing information based on the source is frankly absurd.\n
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            Incidentally, Mearsheimer gave an entire lecture back in 2014 predicting the events in Ukraine that are currently unfolding, seems to me that he might know what he’s talking about [www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4)\n
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            > I will, however, refrain from posting on lemmy.ml in the future, because I can see that you are a mod of several communities on this instance and your overall conduct in this post has been rather childish and disrespectful. I feel like mods should hold themselves to a higher standard.\n
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            Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
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      The actual truth is that it’s NATO that’s been constantly expanding towards Russia. It’s also NATO that’s been invading and destroying countries since the end of USSR. Syria, Libya, and Yugoslavia being some prominent examples.\n
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      Meanwhile, Russia tried to resolve this situation diplomatically since 2008 with Minsk agreements that western leaders now openly admit were a delaying tactic by the west.\n
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      Finally, section IX of Ukraine’s 1990 Declaration of State Sovereignty states the following:\n
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      [The Ukrainian SSR solemnly declares its intention of becoming a permanently neutral state that does not participate in military blocs and adheres to three nuclear free principles: to accept, to produce and to purchase no nuclear weapons.](https://web.archive.org/web/20130615031823/https://static.rada.gov.ua/site/postanova_eng/Declaration_of_State_Sovereignty_of_Ukraine_rev1.htm)\n
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      The whole legal basis for the existence of state of Ukraine is predicated on Ukraine staying neutral and not joining military blocs. Ukraine broke the very basis of this agreement when it tried to join NATO.\n
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      Now, thanks to western “help”, Ukraine will lose far more territory than it would have if the deal was done last year, and it may even cease to exist as a state. I can’t wait for you to explain how this actually helps people of Ukraine.
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          +body: "NATO is an aggressive alliance that has invaded and destroyed numerous countries. The fact that you keep pretending that it’s a defensive alliance just shows how utterly dishonest you are."
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            > False equivalence.\n
            \n
            It’s not.\n
            \n
            > Because Russia attacked them.\n
            \n
            No, Ukraine has been engaged in atrocities in Donbas since 2014 as even western media reported at the time.\n
            \n
            > It is in fact the opposite. No neutral country stays that way for long when Russia wants it’s territory.\n
            \n
            I see you have problems with reading comprehension.\n
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            > If the West had not helped, there would be no Ukraine either. We would be condemning them to a decade of guerilla warfare and oppression. Emboldened by his victory, Putin would look further west.\n
            \n
            If the west didn’t run a coup to overthrow a democratically elected government then there would’ve been no troubles in Ukraine. Period.\n
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            That’s complete and utter nonsense, and even western media now admits this.\n
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            > You could have used the same arguments to make peace with the Nazis in 1941 and the world would only be worse for it.\n
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            Now that’s what actual false equivalence looks like.
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            > Russian propaganda talking point.\n
            \n
            Ah yes, Russian propaganda point as reported by CNN back in 2014 [twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296](https://twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296)\n
            \n
            There’s even an hour long documentary from France on this [www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs)\n
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            Pretending this just didn’t happen is the height of intellectual dishonesty.\n
            \n
            > Euromaidan was not a coup.\n
            \n
            Yes, it was and there’s overwhelming evidence for it.\n
            \n
            > Cite sources for the first point and military strategy analysts for the second.\n
            \n
            Are you just incapable of using google, I guess that would explain why you believe in nonsense. Here you go. First of all Russian economy is now rapidly growing while the west is going into a recession. This is not a country that’s showing any signs of being exhausted:\n
            \n
            - [newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-op…](https://www.newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-opinion-1861645)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-rosstat-2023-12-13/)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russian-factory-activity-expands-fa…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russian-factory-activity-expands-fastest-pace-seven-years-dec-pmi-2023-12-29/)\n
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            and here’s some recent mainstream media reporting on the state of the war for you to chew on\n
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            - [www.nytimes.com/2024/…/ukraine-russia-war.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/13/world/europe/ukraine-russia-war.html)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defen…](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defence-minister-says-2024-01-10/)\n
            - [lepoint.fr/…/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d…](https://www.lepoint.fr/monde/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d-une-debacle-05-01-2024-2549049_24.php)\n
            - [lemonde.fr/…/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-ex…](https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2023/09/27/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-express-discontent-i-repeatedly-told-them-nato-manuals-didn-t-apply_6140349_4.html)\n
            - [spiegel.de/…/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-…](https://www.spiegel.de/politik/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-deutschen-pannen-panzern-a-cd9421ae-4a96-4d4f-983a-6205a063ae15)\n
            - [archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73](https://archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73)\n
            - [telegraph.co.uk/…/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-…](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/12/27/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-tide-war-ukraine/)\n
            - [www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/…/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/ukraine-war-victory-hopes-dim-intl/index.html)\n
            - [cbc.ca/…/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232](https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232)\n
            \n
            and here’s some analysis from military strategists for you\n
            \n
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            - […substack.com/…/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukra…](https://mearsheimer.substack.com/p/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukraine)\n
            - [rusi.org/…/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challeng…](https://www.rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challenges-and-innovations)\n
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            Russia will win this war, and the only thing the west has achieved was to help destroy Ukraine by sabotaging negotiations in 2022.
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          +body: "Share a source for NATO invading Yugoslavia, Libya, Syria, and Afghanistan, is that what you’re asking there little buddy?"
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            Russian economy is growing while the west is going into a recession. [Russian factory activity grows at fastest pace in over six years](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-factory-activity-grows-fastest-pace-over-six-years-sept-pmi-2023-10-02/), meanwhile [while US manufacturing activity shrinks the most in three years.](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-07-03/us-manufacturing-activity-shrinks-by-most-in-three-years). UK now [can’t even make steel from raw materials.](https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/jan/18/tata-steel-to-shut-down-port-talbot-blast-furnaces-3000-jobs-at-risk)\n
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            Yes, people still bleat about a weaker Russia. 🤡
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          +body: "Here’s an idea go sign up as a volunteer in Ukraine and fight yourself instead of cheering on for other people to die for you, you disgusting sack of shit."
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            The fact that the west was deeply involved in the coup is well documented even in western media\n
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            - [quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukr…](https://www.quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukraines-2014-revolution-was-due-to-a-CIA-coup) ([archive.ph/BAxYc](https://archive.ph/BAxYc))\n
            - [consortiumnews.com/…/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-i…](https://consortiumnews.com/2022/12/29/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-in-kiev/)\n
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            The foundations of my beliefs are that the west saw itself as the winner of the cold war after USSR dissolved, and decided to renege on all the promises that were made in the 90s. This created increasing tensions with Russia, and eventually led to the war we’re seeing play out in Ukraine. This is a proxy war between NATO and Russia, and it’s following the script that [was outlined by RAND](https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR3063.html).\n
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            The west made a huge miscalculation thinking that it could defeat Russia militarily and economically, and now the whole thing is starting to backfire. NATO is finding that it lacks the industrial base to sustain the conflict. Russia managed to reroute its trade away from the west, which caused immeasurable economic damage to Europe. The world outside the G7 has been increasingly aligning towards Russia and China and away from the west. This proxy war is heralding the end of the unipolar moment that US enjoyed and ushering in multipolarity.\n
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            > I have been using Google for long enough to know that it often shows us what we want to see, not that which is most likely to be correct. :)\n
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            Have you considered that this might be why you still think that Ukraine is winning despite all the evidence to the contrary?\n
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            > Regarding Russian economic data you seem to be flaunting, Russia has made it hard for outside sources to verify any of it.\n
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            Every mainstream western outlet, including the IMF, agrees that Russian economy is growing. No serious economists dispute this.\n
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            > You seem to derive a lot of your opinions from mearsheimer.substack.com source but the sources the author uses to prove your points often come from rt.com which is like, the worst source for this discussion.\n
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            Mearsheimer is just one example, and he is a preeminent political scientist in the US. The reality is that there is propaganda in the west just like there is in Russia, and western media often omits covering things that RT covers. Simply dismissing information based on the source is frankly absurd.\n
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            Incidentally, Mearsheimer gave an entire lecture back in 2014 predicting the events in Ukraine that are currently unfolding, seems to me that he might know what he’s talking about [www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4)\n
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            > I will, however, refrain from posting on lemmy.ml in the future, because I can see that you are a mod of several communities on this instance and your overall conduct in this post has been rather childish and disrespectful. I feel like mods should hold themselves to a higher standard.\n
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      The actual truth is that it’s NATO that’s been constantly expanding towards Russia. It’s also NATO that’s been invading and destroying countries since the end of USSR. Syria, Libya, and Yugoslavia being some prominent examples.\n
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      Meanwhile, Russia tried to resolve this situation diplomatically since 2008 with Minsk agreements that western leaders now openly admit were a delaying tactic by the west.\n
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      Finally, section IX of Ukraine’s 1990 Declaration of State Sovereignty states the following:\n
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      [The Ukrainian SSR solemnly declares its intention of becoming a permanently neutral state that does not participate in military blocs and adheres to three nuclear free principles: to accept, to produce and to purchase no nuclear weapons.](https://web.archive.org/web/20130615031823/https://static.rada.gov.ua/site/postanova_eng/Declaration_of_State_Sovereignty_of_Ukraine_rev1.htm)\n
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      The whole legal basis for the existence of state of Ukraine is predicated on Ukraine staying neutral and not joining military blocs. Ukraine broke the very basis of this agreement when it tried to join NATO.\n
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            > It is in fact the opposite. No neutral country stays that way for long when Russia wants it’s territory.\n
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            I see you have problems with reading comprehension.\n
            \n
            > If the West had not helped, there would be no Ukraine either. We would be condemning them to a decade of guerilla warfare and oppression. Emboldened by his victory, Putin would look further west.\n
            \n
            If the west didn’t run a coup to overthrow a democratically elected government then there would’ve been no troubles in Ukraine. Period.\n
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            > Ukrainians now fight Russia, both sides are getting exhausted and it all depends on what help Ukraine gets. Your magical peace treaty would just mean Russia trying this again in 5 years or less.\n
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            That’s complete and utter nonsense, and even western media now admits this.\n
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            > You could have used the same arguments to make peace with the Nazis in 1941 and the world would only be worse for it.\n
            \n
            Now that’s what actual false equivalence looks like.
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            > Russian propaganda talking point.\n
            \n
            Ah yes, Russian propaganda point as reported by CNN back in 2014 [twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296](https://twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296)\n
            \n
            There’s even an hour long documentary from France on this [www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs)\n
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            Pretending this just didn’t happen is the height of intellectual dishonesty.\n
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            > Euromaidan was not a coup.\n
            \n
            Yes, it was and there’s overwhelming evidence for it.\n
            \n
            > Cite sources for the first point and military strategy analysts for the second.\n
            \n
            Are you just incapable of using google, I guess that would explain why you believe in nonsense. Here you go. First of all Russian economy is now rapidly growing while the west is going into a recession. This is not a country that’s showing any signs of being exhausted:\n
            \n
            - [newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-op…](https://www.newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-opinion-1861645)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-rosstat-2023-12-13/)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russian-factory-activity-expands-fa…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russian-factory-activity-expands-fastest-pace-seven-years-dec-pmi-2023-12-29/)\n
            \n
            and here’s some recent mainstream media reporting on the state of the war for you to chew on\n
            \n
            - [www.nytimes.com/2024/…/ukraine-russia-war.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/13/world/europe/ukraine-russia-war.html)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defen…](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defence-minister-says-2024-01-10/)\n
            - [lepoint.fr/…/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d…](https://www.lepoint.fr/monde/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d-une-debacle-05-01-2024-2549049_24.php)\n
            - [lemonde.fr/…/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-ex…](https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2023/09/27/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-express-discontent-i-repeatedly-told-them-nato-manuals-didn-t-apply_6140349_4.html)\n
            - [spiegel.de/…/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-…](https://www.spiegel.de/politik/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-deutschen-pannen-panzern-a-cd9421ae-4a96-4d4f-983a-6205a063ae15)\n
            - [archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73](https://archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73)\n
            - [telegraph.co.uk/…/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-…](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/12/27/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-tide-war-ukraine/)\n
            - [www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/…/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/ukraine-war-victory-hopes-dim-intl/index.html)\n
            - [cbc.ca/…/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232](https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232)\n
            \n
            and here’s some analysis from military strategists for you\n
            \n
            - [www.russiamatters.org/…/whats-ahead-war-ukraine](https://www.russiamatters.org/analysis/whats-ahead-war-ukraine)\n
            - […substack.com/…/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukra…](https://mearsheimer.substack.com/p/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukraine)\n
            - [rusi.org/…/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challeng…](https://www.rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challenges-and-innovations)\n
            \n
            Russia will win this war, and the only thing the west has achieved was to help destroy Ukraine by sabotaging negotiations in 2022.
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            Russian economy is growing while the west is going into a recession. [Russian factory activity grows at fastest pace in over six years](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-factory-activity-grows-fastest-pace-over-six-years-sept-pmi-2023-10-02/), meanwhile [while US manufacturing activity shrinks the most in three years.](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-07-03/us-manufacturing-activity-shrinks-by-most-in-three-years). UK now [can’t even make steel from raw materials.](https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/jan/18/tata-steel-to-shut-down-port-talbot-blast-furnaces-3000-jobs-at-risk)\n
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            The fact that the west was deeply involved in the coup is well documented even in western media\n
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            - [quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukr…](https://www.quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukraines-2014-revolution-was-due-to-a-CIA-coup) ([archive.ph/BAxYc](https://archive.ph/BAxYc))\n
            - [consortiumnews.com/…/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-i…](https://consortiumnews.com/2022/12/29/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-in-kiev/)\n
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            The foundations of my beliefs are that the west saw itself as the winner of the cold war after USSR dissolved, and decided to renege on all the promises that were made in the 90s. This created increasing tensions with Russia, and eventually led to the war we’re seeing play out in Ukraine. This is a proxy war between NATO and Russia, and it’s following the script that [was outlined by RAND](https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR3063.html).\n
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            The west made a huge miscalculation thinking that it could defeat Russia militarily and economically, and now the whole thing is starting to backfire. NATO is finding that it lacks the industrial base to sustain the conflict. Russia managed to reroute its trade away from the west, which caused immeasurable economic damage to Europe. The world outside the G7 has been increasingly aligning towards Russia and China and away from the west. This proxy war is heralding the end of the unipolar moment that US enjoyed and ushering in multipolarity.\n
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            > I have been using Google for long enough to know that it often shows us what we want to see, not that which is most likely to be correct. :)\n
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            Have you considered that this might be why you still think that Ukraine is winning despite all the evidence to the contrary?\n
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            > Regarding Russian economic data you seem to be flaunting, Russia has made it hard for outside sources to verify any of it.\n
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            Every mainstream western outlet, including the IMF, agrees that Russian economy is growing. No serious economists dispute this.\n
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            > You seem to derive a lot of your opinions from mearsheimer.substack.com source but the sources the author uses to prove your points often come from rt.com which is like, the worst source for this discussion.\n
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            Mearsheimer is just one example, and he is a preeminent political scientist in the US. The reality is that there is propaganda in the west just like there is in Russia, and western media often omits covering things that RT covers. Simply dismissing information based on the source is frankly absurd.\n
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            Incidentally, Mearsheimer gave an entire lecture back in 2014 predicting the events in Ukraine that are currently unfolding, seems to me that he might know what he’s talking about [www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4)\n
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            > I will, however, refrain from posting on lemmy.ml in the future, because I can see that you are a mod of several communities on this instance and your overall conduct in this post has been rather childish and disrespectful. I feel like mods should hold themselves to a higher standard.\n
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            Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
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      The actual truth is that it’s NATO that’s been constantly expanding towards Russia. It’s also NATO that’s been invading and destroying countries since the end of USSR. Syria, Libya, and Yugoslavia being some prominent examples.\n
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      Meanwhile, Russia tried to resolve this situation diplomatically since 2008 with Minsk agreements that western leaders now openly admit were a delaying tactic by the west.\n
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      Finally, section IX of Ukraine’s 1990 Declaration of State Sovereignty states the following:\n
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      [The Ukrainian SSR solemnly declares its intention of becoming a permanently neutral state that does not participate in military blocs and adheres to three nuclear free principles: to accept, to produce and to purchase no nuclear weapons.](https://web.archive.org/web/20130615031823/https://static.rada.gov.ua/site/postanova_eng/Declaration_of_State_Sovereignty_of_Ukraine_rev1.htm)\n
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      The whole legal basis for the existence of state of Ukraine is predicated on Ukraine staying neutral and not joining military blocs. Ukraine broke the very basis of this agreement when it tried to join NATO.\n
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      Now, thanks to western “help”, Ukraine will lose far more territory than it would have if the deal was done last year, and it may even cease to exist as a state. I can’t wait for you to explain how this actually helps people of Ukraine.
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          +body: "NATO is an aggressive alliance that has invaded and destroyed numerous countries. The fact that you keep pretending that it’s a defensive alliance just shows how utterly dishonest you are."
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            > False equivalence.\n
            \n
            It’s not.\n
            \n
            > Because Russia attacked them.\n
            \n
            No, Ukraine has been engaged in atrocities in Donbas since 2014 as even western media reported at the time.\n
            \n
            > It is in fact the opposite. No neutral country stays that way for long when Russia wants it’s territory.\n
            \n
            I see you have problems with reading comprehension.\n
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            > If the West had not helped, there would be no Ukraine either. We would be condemning them to a decade of guerilla warfare and oppression. Emboldened by his victory, Putin would look further west.\n
            \n
            If the west didn’t run a coup to overthrow a democratically elected government then there would’ve been no troubles in Ukraine. Period.\n
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            > Ukrainians now fight Russia, both sides are getting exhausted and it all depends on what help Ukraine gets. Your magical peace treaty would just mean Russia trying this again in 5 years or less.\n
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            That’s complete and utter nonsense, and even western media now admits this.\n
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            > You could have used the same arguments to make peace with the Nazis in 1941 and the world would only be worse for it.\n
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            Now that’s what actual false equivalence looks like.
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            > Russian propaganda talking point.\n
            \n
            Ah yes, Russian propaganda point as reported by CNN back in 2014 [twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296](https://twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296)\n
            \n
            There’s even an hour long documentary from France on this [www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs)\n
            \n
            Pretending this just didn’t happen is the height of intellectual dishonesty.\n
            \n
            > Euromaidan was not a coup.\n
            \n
            Yes, it was and there’s overwhelming evidence for it.\n
            \n
            > Cite sources for the first point and military strategy analysts for the second.\n
            \n
            Are you just incapable of using google, I guess that would explain why you believe in nonsense. Here you go. First of all Russian economy is now rapidly growing while the west is going into a recession. This is not a country that’s showing any signs of being exhausted:\n
            \n
            - [newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-op…](https://www.newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-opinion-1861645)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-rosstat-2023-12-13/)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russian-factory-activity-expands-fa…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russian-factory-activity-expands-fastest-pace-seven-years-dec-pmi-2023-12-29/)\n
            \n
            and here’s some recent mainstream media reporting on the state of the war for you to chew on\n
            \n
            - [www.nytimes.com/2024/…/ukraine-russia-war.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/13/world/europe/ukraine-russia-war.html)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defen…](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defence-minister-says-2024-01-10/)\n
            - [lepoint.fr/…/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d…](https://www.lepoint.fr/monde/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d-une-debacle-05-01-2024-2549049_24.php)\n
            - [lemonde.fr/…/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-ex…](https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2023/09/27/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-express-discontent-i-repeatedly-told-them-nato-manuals-didn-t-apply_6140349_4.html)\n
            - [spiegel.de/…/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-…](https://www.spiegel.de/politik/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-deutschen-pannen-panzern-a-cd9421ae-4a96-4d4f-983a-6205a063ae15)\n
            - [archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73](https://archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73)\n
            - [telegraph.co.uk/…/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-…](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/12/27/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-tide-war-ukraine/)\n
            - [www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/…/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/ukraine-war-victory-hopes-dim-intl/index.html)\n
            - [cbc.ca/…/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232](https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232)\n
            \n
            and here’s some analysis from military strategists for you\n
            \n
            - [www.russiamatters.org/…/whats-ahead-war-ukraine](https://www.russiamatters.org/analysis/whats-ahead-war-ukraine)\n
            - […substack.com/…/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukra…](https://mearsheimer.substack.com/p/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukraine)\n
            - [rusi.org/…/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challeng…](https://www.rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challenges-and-innovations)\n
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            Russia will win this war, and the only thing the west has achieved was to help destroy Ukraine by sabotaging negotiations in 2022.
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          +body: "Share a source for NATO invading Yugoslavia, Libya, Syria, and Afghanistan, is that what you’re asking there little buddy?"
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            Russian economy is growing while the west is going into a recession. [Russian factory activity grows at fastest pace in over six years](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-factory-activity-grows-fastest-pace-over-six-years-sept-pmi-2023-10-02/), meanwhile [while US manufacturing activity shrinks the most in three years.](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-07-03/us-manufacturing-activity-shrinks-by-most-in-three-years). UK now [can’t even make steel from raw materials.](https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/jan/18/tata-steel-to-shut-down-port-talbot-blast-furnaces-3000-jobs-at-risk)\n
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            Yes, people still bleat about a weaker Russia. 🤡
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          +body: "Here’s an idea go sign up as a volunteer in Ukraine and fight yourself instead of cheering on for other people to die for you, you disgusting sack of shit."
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            The fact that the west was deeply involved in the coup is well documented even in western media\n
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            - [quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukr…](https://www.quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukraines-2014-revolution-was-due-to-a-CIA-coup) ([archive.ph/BAxYc](https://archive.ph/BAxYc))\n
            - [consortiumnews.com/…/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-i…](https://consortiumnews.com/2022/12/29/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-in-kiev/)\n
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            The foundations of my beliefs are that the west saw itself as the winner of the cold war after USSR dissolved, and decided to renege on all the promises that were made in the 90s. This created increasing tensions with Russia, and eventually led to the war we’re seeing play out in Ukraine. This is a proxy war between NATO and Russia, and it’s following the script that [was outlined by RAND](https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR3063.html).\n
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            The west made a huge miscalculation thinking that it could defeat Russia militarily and economically, and now the whole thing is starting to backfire. NATO is finding that it lacks the industrial base to sustain the conflict. Russia managed to reroute its trade away from the west, which caused immeasurable economic damage to Europe. The world outside the G7 has been increasingly aligning towards Russia and China and away from the west. This proxy war is heralding the end of the unipolar moment that US enjoyed and ushering in multipolarity.\n
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            > I have been using Google for long enough to know that it often shows us what we want to see, not that which is most likely to be correct. :)\n
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            Have you considered that this might be why you still think that Ukraine is winning despite all the evidence to the contrary?\n
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            > Regarding Russian economic data you seem to be flaunting, Russia has made it hard for outside sources to verify any of it.\n
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            Every mainstream western outlet, including the IMF, agrees that Russian economy is growing. No serious economists dispute this.\n
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            > You seem to derive a lot of your opinions from mearsheimer.substack.com source but the sources the author uses to prove your points often come from rt.com which is like, the worst source for this discussion.\n
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            Mearsheimer is just one example, and he is a preeminent political scientist in the US. The reality is that there is propaganda in the west just like there is in Russia, and western media often omits covering things that RT covers. Simply dismissing information based on the source is frankly absurd.\n
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            Incidentally, Mearsheimer gave an entire lecture back in 2014 predicting the events in Ukraine that are currently unfolding, seems to me that he might know what he’s talking about [www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4)\n
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            > I will, however, refrain from posting on lemmy.ml in the future, because I can see that you are a mod of several communities on this instance and your overall conduct in this post has been rather childish and disrespectful. I feel like mods should hold themselves to a higher standard.\n
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            Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
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      The actual truth is that it’s NATO that’s been constantly expanding towards Russia. It’s also NATO that’s been invading and destroying countries since the end of USSR. Syria, Libya, and Yugoslavia being some prominent examples.\n
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      Meanwhile, Russia tried to resolve this situation diplomatically since 2008 with Minsk agreements that western leaders now openly admit were a delaying tactic by the west.\n
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      Finally, section IX of Ukraine’s 1990 Declaration of State Sovereignty states the following:\n
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      [The Ukrainian SSR solemnly declares its intention of becoming a permanently neutral state that does not participate in military blocs and adheres to three nuclear free principles: to accept, to produce and to purchase no nuclear weapons.](https://web.archive.org/web/20130615031823/https://static.rada.gov.ua/site/postanova_eng/Declaration_of_State_Sovereignty_of_Ukraine_rev1.htm)\n
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      The whole legal basis for the existence of state of Ukraine is predicated on Ukraine staying neutral and not joining military blocs. Ukraine broke the very basis of this agreement when it tried to join NATO.\n
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          +body: "NATO is an aggressive alliance that has invaded and destroyed numerous countries. The fact that you keep pretending that it’s a defensive alliance just shows how utterly dishonest you are."
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            > False equivalence.\n
            \n
            It’s not.\n
            \n
            > Because Russia attacked them.\n
            \n
            No, Ukraine has been engaged in atrocities in Donbas since 2014 as even western media reported at the time.\n
            \n
            > It is in fact the opposite. No neutral country stays that way for long when Russia wants it’s territory.\n
            \n
            I see you have problems with reading comprehension.\n
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            > If the West had not helped, there would be no Ukraine either. We would be condemning them to a decade of guerilla warfare and oppression. Emboldened by his victory, Putin would look further west.\n
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            If the west didn’t run a coup to overthrow a democratically elected government then there would’ve been no troubles in Ukraine. Period.\n
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            That’s complete and utter nonsense, and even western media now admits this.\n
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            > You could have used the same arguments to make peace with the Nazis in 1941 and the world would only be worse for it.\n
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            Now that’s what actual false equivalence looks like.
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            > Russian propaganda talking point.\n
            \n
            Ah yes, Russian propaganda point as reported by CNN back in 2014 [twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296](https://twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296)\n
            \n
            There’s even an hour long documentary from France on this [www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs)\n
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            Pretending this just didn’t happen is the height of intellectual dishonesty.\n
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            > Euromaidan was not a coup.\n
            \n
            Yes, it was and there’s overwhelming evidence for it.\n
            \n
            > Cite sources for the first point and military strategy analysts for the second.\n
            \n
            Are you just incapable of using google, I guess that would explain why you believe in nonsense. Here you go. First of all Russian economy is now rapidly growing while the west is going into a recession. This is not a country that’s showing any signs of being exhausted:\n
            \n
            - [newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-op…](https://www.newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-opinion-1861645)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-rosstat-2023-12-13/)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russian-factory-activity-expands-fa…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russian-factory-activity-expands-fastest-pace-seven-years-dec-pmi-2023-12-29/)\n
            \n
            and here’s some recent mainstream media reporting on the state of the war for you to chew on\n
            \n
            - [www.nytimes.com/2024/…/ukraine-russia-war.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/13/world/europe/ukraine-russia-war.html)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defen…](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defence-minister-says-2024-01-10/)\n
            - [lepoint.fr/…/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d…](https://www.lepoint.fr/monde/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d-une-debacle-05-01-2024-2549049_24.php)\n
            - [lemonde.fr/…/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-ex…](https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2023/09/27/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-express-discontent-i-repeatedly-told-them-nato-manuals-didn-t-apply_6140349_4.html)\n
            - [spiegel.de/…/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-…](https://www.spiegel.de/politik/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-deutschen-pannen-panzern-a-cd9421ae-4a96-4d4f-983a-6205a063ae15)\n
            - [archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73](https://archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73)\n
            - [telegraph.co.uk/…/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-…](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/12/27/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-tide-war-ukraine/)\n
            - [www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/…/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/ukraine-war-victory-hopes-dim-intl/index.html)\n
            - [cbc.ca/…/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232](https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232)\n
            \n
            and here’s some analysis from military strategists for you\n
            \n
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            - […substack.com/…/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukra…](https://mearsheimer.substack.com/p/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukraine)\n
            - [rusi.org/…/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challeng…](https://www.rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challenges-and-innovations)\n
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            Russia will win this war, and the only thing the west has achieved was to help destroy Ukraine by sabotaging negotiations in 2022.
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          +body: "Share a source for NATO invading Yugoslavia, Libya, Syria, and Afghanistan, is that what you’re asking there little buddy?"
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            Russian economy is growing while the west is going into a recession. [Russian factory activity grows at fastest pace in over six years](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-factory-activity-grows-fastest-pace-over-six-years-sept-pmi-2023-10-02/), meanwhile [while US manufacturing activity shrinks the most in three years.](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-07-03/us-manufacturing-activity-shrinks-by-most-in-three-years). UK now [can’t even make steel from raw materials.](https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/jan/18/tata-steel-to-shut-down-port-talbot-blast-furnaces-3000-jobs-at-risk)\n
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            Yes, people still bleat about a weaker Russia. 🤡
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          +body: "Here’s an idea go sign up as a volunteer in Ukraine and fight yourself instead of cheering on for other people to die for you, you disgusting sack of shit."
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            The fact that the west was deeply involved in the coup is well documented even in western media\n
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            - [quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukr…](https://www.quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukraines-2014-revolution-was-due-to-a-CIA-coup) ([archive.ph/BAxYc](https://archive.ph/BAxYc))\n
            - [consortiumnews.com/…/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-i…](https://consortiumnews.com/2022/12/29/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-in-kiev/)\n
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            The foundations of my beliefs are that the west saw itself as the winner of the cold war after USSR dissolved, and decided to renege on all the promises that were made in the 90s. This created increasing tensions with Russia, and eventually led to the war we’re seeing play out in Ukraine. This is a proxy war between NATO and Russia, and it’s following the script that [was outlined by RAND](https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR3063.html).\n
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            The west made a huge miscalculation thinking that it could defeat Russia militarily and economically, and now the whole thing is starting to backfire. NATO is finding that it lacks the industrial base to sustain the conflict. Russia managed to reroute its trade away from the west, which caused immeasurable economic damage to Europe. The world outside the G7 has been increasingly aligning towards Russia and China and away from the west. This proxy war is heralding the end of the unipolar moment that US enjoyed and ushering in multipolarity.\n
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            > I have been using Google for long enough to know that it often shows us what we want to see, not that which is most likely to be correct. :)\n
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            Have you considered that this might be why you still think that Ukraine is winning despite all the evidence to the contrary?\n
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            > Regarding Russian economic data you seem to be flaunting, Russia has made it hard for outside sources to verify any of it.\n
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            Every mainstream western outlet, including the IMF, agrees that Russian economy is growing. No serious economists dispute this.\n
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            > You seem to derive a lot of your opinions from mearsheimer.substack.com source but the sources the author uses to prove your points often come from rt.com which is like, the worst source for this discussion.\n
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            Mearsheimer is just one example, and he is a preeminent political scientist in the US. The reality is that there is propaganda in the west just like there is in Russia, and western media often omits covering things that RT covers. Simply dismissing information based on the source is frankly absurd.\n
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            Incidentally, Mearsheimer gave an entire lecture back in 2014 predicting the events in Ukraine that are currently unfolding, seems to me that he might know what he’s talking about [www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4)\n
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            > I will, however, refrain from posting on lemmy.ml in the future, because I can see that you are a mod of several communities on this instance and your overall conduct in this post has been rather childish and disrespectful. I feel like mods should hold themselves to a higher standard.\n
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            Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
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      The actual truth is that it’s NATO that’s been constantly expanding towards Russia. It’s also NATO that’s been invading and destroying countries since the end of USSR. Syria, Libya, and Yugoslavia being some prominent examples.\n
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      Meanwhile, Russia tried to resolve this situation diplomatically since 2008 with Minsk agreements that western leaders now openly admit were a delaying tactic by the west.\n
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      Finally, section IX of Ukraine’s 1990 Declaration of State Sovereignty states the following:\n
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      [The Ukrainian SSR solemnly declares its intention of becoming a permanently neutral state that does not participate in military blocs and adheres to three nuclear free principles: to accept, to produce and to purchase no nuclear weapons.](https://web.archive.org/web/20130615031823/https://static.rada.gov.ua/site/postanova_eng/Declaration_of_State_Sovereignty_of_Ukraine_rev1.htm)\n
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      The whole legal basis for the existence of state of Ukraine is predicated on Ukraine staying neutral and not joining military blocs. Ukraine broke the very basis of this agreement when it tried to join NATO.\n
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          +body: "After two years, it’s pretty clear that the west is not capable of doing anything of the sort. All the west managed to achieve was to ensure that hundreds of thousands of people died, and that Ukraine lost large parts of its territory in the process. We now have admissions from Ukrainian negotiators that a peace deal was close to being reached last March before the west sabotaged it."
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          +body: "NATO is an aggressive alliance that has invaded and destroyed numerous countries. The fact that you keep pretending that it’s a defensive alliance just shows how utterly dishonest you are."
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            > False equivalence.\n
            \n
            It’s not.\n
            \n
            > Because Russia attacked them.\n
            \n
            No, Ukraine has been engaged in atrocities in Donbas since 2014 as even western media reported at the time.\n
            \n
            > It is in fact the opposite. No neutral country stays that way for long when Russia wants it’s territory.\n
            \n
            I see you have problems with reading comprehension.\n
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            > If the West had not helped, there would be no Ukraine either. We would be condemning them to a decade of guerilla warfare and oppression. Emboldened by his victory, Putin would look further west.\n
            \n
            If the west didn’t run a coup to overthrow a democratically elected government then there would’ve been no troubles in Ukraine. Period.\n
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            > Ukrainians now fight Russia, both sides are getting exhausted and it all depends on what help Ukraine gets. Your magical peace treaty would just mean Russia trying this again in 5 years or less.\n
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            That’s complete and utter nonsense, and even western media now admits this.\n
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            > You could have used the same arguments to make peace with the Nazis in 1941 and the world would only be worse for it.\n
            \n
            Now that’s what actual false equivalence looks like.
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            > Russian propaganda talking point.\n
            \n
            Ah yes, Russian propaganda point as reported by CNN back in 2014 [twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296](https://twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296)\n
            \n
            There’s even an hour long documentary from France on this [www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs)\n
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            Pretending this just didn’t happen is the height of intellectual dishonesty.\n
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            > Euromaidan was not a coup.\n
            \n
            Yes, it was and there’s overwhelming evidence for it.\n
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            > Cite sources for the first point and military strategy analysts for the second.\n
            \n
            Are you just incapable of using google, I guess that would explain why you believe in nonsense. Here you go. First of all Russian economy is now rapidly growing while the west is going into a recession. This is not a country that’s showing any signs of being exhausted:\n
            \n
            - [newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-op…](https://www.newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-opinion-1861645)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-rosstat-2023-12-13/)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russian-factory-activity-expands-fa…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russian-factory-activity-expands-fastest-pace-seven-years-dec-pmi-2023-12-29/)\n
            \n
            and here’s some recent mainstream media reporting on the state of the war for you to chew on\n
            \n
            - [www.nytimes.com/2024/…/ukraine-russia-war.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/13/world/europe/ukraine-russia-war.html)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defen…](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defence-minister-says-2024-01-10/)\n
            - [lepoint.fr/…/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d…](https://www.lepoint.fr/monde/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d-une-debacle-05-01-2024-2549049_24.php)\n
            - [lemonde.fr/…/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-ex…](https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2023/09/27/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-express-discontent-i-repeatedly-told-them-nato-manuals-didn-t-apply_6140349_4.html)\n
            - [spiegel.de/…/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-…](https://www.spiegel.de/politik/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-deutschen-pannen-panzern-a-cd9421ae-4a96-4d4f-983a-6205a063ae15)\n
            - [archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73](https://archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73)\n
            - [telegraph.co.uk/…/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-…](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/12/27/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-tide-war-ukraine/)\n
            - [www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/…/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/ukraine-war-victory-hopes-dim-intl/index.html)\n
            - [cbc.ca/…/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232](https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232)\n
            \n
            and here’s some analysis from military strategists for you\n
            \n
            - [www.russiamatters.org/…/whats-ahead-war-ukraine](https://www.russiamatters.org/analysis/whats-ahead-war-ukraine)\n
            - […substack.com/…/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukra…](https://mearsheimer.substack.com/p/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukraine)\n
            - [rusi.org/…/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challeng…](https://www.rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challenges-and-innovations)\n
            \n
            Russia will win this war, and the only thing the west has achieved was to help destroy Ukraine by sabotaging negotiations in 2022.
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          +body: "Share a source for NATO invading Yugoslavia, Libya, Syria, and Afghanistan, is that what you’re asking there little buddy?"
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          +body: "No, I’m saying that anybody can type in words NATO and Yugoslavia or NATO and Libya into Google and see that you’re a liar."
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            Russian economy is growing while the west is going into a recession. [Russian factory activity grows at fastest pace in over six years](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-factory-activity-grows-fastest-pace-over-six-years-sept-pmi-2023-10-02/), meanwhile [while US manufacturing activity shrinks the most in three years.](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-07-03/us-manufacturing-activity-shrinks-by-most-in-three-years). UK now [can’t even make steel from raw materials.](https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/jan/18/tata-steel-to-shut-down-port-talbot-blast-furnaces-3000-jobs-at-risk)\n
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            Yes, people still bleat about a weaker Russia. 🤡
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          +body: "Here’s an idea go sign up as a volunteer in Ukraine and fight yourself instead of cheering on for other people to die for you, you disgusting sack of shit."
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            The fact that the west was deeply involved in the coup is well documented even in western media\n
            \n
            - [quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukr…](https://www.quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukraines-2014-revolution-was-due-to-a-CIA-coup) ([archive.ph/BAxYc](https://archive.ph/BAxYc))\n
            - [consortiumnews.com/…/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-i…](https://consortiumnews.com/2022/12/29/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-in-kiev/)\n
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            The foundations of my beliefs are that the west saw itself as the winner of the cold war after USSR dissolved, and decided to renege on all the promises that were made in the 90s. This created increasing tensions with Russia, and eventually led to the war we’re seeing play out in Ukraine. This is a proxy war between NATO and Russia, and it’s following the script that [was outlined by RAND](https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR3063.html).\n
            \n
            The west made a huge miscalculation thinking that it could defeat Russia militarily and economically, and now the whole thing is starting to backfire. NATO is finding that it lacks the industrial base to sustain the conflict. Russia managed to reroute its trade away from the west, which caused immeasurable economic damage to Europe. The world outside the G7 has been increasingly aligning towards Russia and China and away from the west. This proxy war is heralding the end of the unipolar moment that US enjoyed and ushering in multipolarity.\n
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            > I have been using Google for long enough to know that it often shows us what we want to see, not that which is most likely to be correct. :)\n
            \n
            Have you considered that this might be why you still think that Ukraine is winning despite all the evidence to the contrary?\n
            \n
            > Regarding Russian economic data you seem to be flaunting, Russia has made it hard for outside sources to verify any of it.\n
            \n
            Every mainstream western outlet, including the IMF, agrees that Russian economy is growing. No serious economists dispute this.\n
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            > You seem to derive a lot of your opinions from mearsheimer.substack.com source but the sources the author uses to prove your points often come from rt.com which is like, the worst source for this discussion.\n
            \n
            Mearsheimer is just one example, and he is a preeminent political scientist in the US. The reality is that there is propaganda in the west just like there is in Russia, and western media often omits covering things that RT covers. Simply dismissing information based on the source is frankly absurd.\n
            \n
            Incidentally, Mearsheimer gave an entire lecture back in 2014 predicting the events in Ukraine that are currently unfolding, seems to me that he might know what he’s talking about [www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4)\n
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            > I will, however, refrain from posting on lemmy.ml in the future, because I can see that you are a mod of several communities on this instance and your overall conduct in this post has been rather childish and disrespectful. I feel like mods should hold themselves to a higher standard.\n
            \n
            Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
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      The actual truth is that it’s NATO that’s been constantly expanding towards Russia. It’s also NATO that’s been invading and destroying countries since the end of USSR. Syria, Libya, and Yugoslavia being some prominent examples.\n
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      Meanwhile, Russia tried to resolve this situation diplomatically since 2008 with Minsk agreements that western leaders now openly admit were a delaying tactic by the west.\n
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      Finally, section IX of Ukraine’s 1990 Declaration of State Sovereignty states the following:\n
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            The actual truth is that it’s NATO that’s been constantly expanding towards Russia. It’s also NATO that’s been invading and destroying countries since the end of USSR. Syria, Libya, and Yugoslavia being some prominent examples.\n
            \n
            Meanwhile, Russia tried to resolve this situation diplomatically since 2008 with Minsk agreements that western leaders now openly admit were a delaying tactic by the west.\n
            \n
            Finally, section IX of Ukraine’s 1990 Declaration of State Sovereignty states the following:\n
            \n
            [The Ukrainian SSR solemnly declares its intention of becoming a permanently neutral state that does not participate in military blocs and adheres to three nuclear free principles: to accept, to produce and to purchase no nuclear weapons.](https://web.archive.org/web/20130615031823/https://static.rada.gov.ua/site/postanova_eng/Declaration_of_State_Sovereignty_of_Ukraine_rev1.htm)\n
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            The whole legal basis for the existence of state of Ukraine is predicated on Ukraine staying neutral and not joining military blocs. Ukraine broke the very basis of this agreement when it tried to join NATO.\n
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            Now, thanks to western “help”, Ukraine will lose far more territory than it would have if the deal was done last year, and it may even cease to exist as a state. I can’t wait for you to explain how this actually helps people of Ukraine.
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            > False equivalence.\n
            \n
            It’s not.\n
            \n
            > Because Russia attacked them.\n
            \n
            No, Ukraine has been engaged in atrocities in Donbas since 2014 as even western media reported at the time.\n
            \n
            > It is in fact the opposite. No neutral country stays that way for long when Russia wants it’s territory.\n
            \n
            I see you have problems with reading comprehension.\n
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            > If the West had not helped, there would be no Ukraine either. We would be condemning them to a decade of guerilla warfare and oppression. Emboldened by his victory, Putin would look further west.\n
            \n
            If the west didn’t run a coup to overthrow a democratically elected government then there would’ve been no troubles in Ukraine. Period.\n
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            > Ukrainians now fight Russia, both sides are getting exhausted and it all depends on what help Ukraine gets. Your magical peace treaty would just mean Russia trying this again in 5 years or less.\n
            \n
            That’s complete and utter nonsense, and even western media now admits this.\n
            \n
            > You could have used the same arguments to make peace with the Nazis in 1941 and the world would only be worse for it.\n
            \n
            Now that’s what actual false equivalence looks like.
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            > Russian propaganda talking point.\n
            \n
            Ah yes, Russian propaganda point as reported by CNN back in 2014 [twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296](https://twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296)\n
            \n
            There’s even an hour long documentary from France on this [www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs)\n
            \n
            Pretending this just didn’t happen is the height of intellectual dishonesty.\n
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            > Euromaidan was not a coup.\n
            \n
            Yes, it was and there’s overwhelming evidence for it.\n
            \n
            > Cite sources for the first point and military strategy analysts for the second.\n
            \n
            Are you just incapable of using google, I guess that would explain why you believe in nonsense. Here you go. First of all Russian economy is now rapidly growing while the west is going into a recession. This is not a country that’s showing any signs of being exhausted:\n
            \n
            - [newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-op…](https://www.newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-opinion-1861645)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-rosstat-2023-12-13/)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russian-factory-activity-expands-fa…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russian-factory-activity-expands-fastest-pace-seven-years-dec-pmi-2023-12-29/)\n
            \n
            and here’s some recent mainstream media reporting on the state of the war for you to chew on\n
            \n
            - [www.nytimes.com/2024/…/ukraine-russia-war.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/13/world/europe/ukraine-russia-war.html)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defen…](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defence-minister-says-2024-01-10/)\n
            - [lepoint.fr/…/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d…](https://www.lepoint.fr/monde/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d-une-debacle-05-01-2024-2549049_24.php)\n
            - [lemonde.fr/…/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-ex…](https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2023/09/27/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-express-discontent-i-repeatedly-told-them-nato-manuals-didn-t-apply_6140349_4.html)\n
            - [spiegel.de/…/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-…](https://www.spiegel.de/politik/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-deutschen-pannen-panzern-a-cd9421ae-4a96-4d4f-983a-6205a063ae15)\n
            - [archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73](https://archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73)\n
            - [telegraph.co.uk/…/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-…](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/12/27/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-tide-war-ukraine/)\n
            - [www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/…/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/ukraine-war-victory-hopes-dim-intl/index.html)\n
            - [cbc.ca/…/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232](https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232)\n
            \n
            and here’s some analysis from military strategists for you\n
            \n
            - [www.russiamatters.org/…/whats-ahead-war-ukraine](https://www.russiamatters.org/analysis/whats-ahead-war-ukraine)\n
            - […substack.com/…/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukra…](https://mearsheimer.substack.com/p/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukraine)\n
            - [rusi.org/…/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challeng…](https://www.rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challenges-and-innovations)\n
            \n
            Russia will win this war, and the only thing the west has achieved was to help destroy Ukraine by sabotaging negotiations in 2022.
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          +body: "Share a source for NATO invading Yugoslavia, Libya, Syria, and Afghanistan, is that what you’re asking there little buddy?"
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          +body: "No, I’m saying that anybody can type in words NATO and Yugoslavia or NATO and Libya into Google and see that you’re a liar."
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            Russian economy is growing while the west is going into a recession. [Russian factory activity grows at fastest pace in over six years](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-factory-activity-grows-fastest-pace-over-six-years-sept-pmi-2023-10-02/), meanwhile [while US manufacturing activity shrinks the most in three years.](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-07-03/us-manufacturing-activity-shrinks-by-most-in-three-years). UK now [can’t even make steel from raw materials.](https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/jan/18/tata-steel-to-shut-down-port-talbot-blast-furnaces-3000-jobs-at-risk)\n
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            Yes, people still bleat about a weaker Russia. 🤡
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            The fact that the west was deeply involved in the coup is well documented even in western media\n
            \n
            - [quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukr…](https://www.quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukraines-2014-revolution-was-due-to-a-CIA-coup) ([archive.ph/BAxYc](https://archive.ph/BAxYc))\n
            - [consortiumnews.com/…/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-i…](https://consortiumnews.com/2022/12/29/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-in-kiev/)\n
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            The foundations of my beliefs are that the west saw itself as the winner of the cold war after USSR dissolved, and decided to renege on all the promises that were made in the 90s. This created increasing tensions with Russia, and eventually led to the war we’re seeing play out in Ukraine. This is a proxy war between NATO and Russia, and it’s following the script that [was outlined by RAND](https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR3063.html).\n
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            The west made a huge miscalculation thinking that it could defeat Russia militarily and economically, and now the whole thing is starting to backfire. NATO is finding that it lacks the industrial base to sustain the conflict. Russia managed to reroute its trade away from the west, which caused immeasurable economic damage to Europe. The world outside the G7 has been increasingly aligning towards Russia and China and away from the west. This proxy war is heralding the end of the unipolar moment that US enjoyed and ushering in multipolarity.\n
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            > I have been using Google for long enough to know that it often shows us what we want to see, not that which is most likely to be correct. :)\n
            \n
            Have you considered that this might be why you still think that Ukraine is winning despite all the evidence to the contrary?\n
            \n
            > Regarding Russian economic data you seem to be flaunting, Russia has made it hard for outside sources to verify any of it.\n
            \n
            Every mainstream western outlet, including the IMF, agrees that Russian economy is growing. No serious economists dispute this.\n
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            > You seem to derive a lot of your opinions from mearsheimer.substack.com source but the sources the author uses to prove your points often come from rt.com which is like, the worst source for this discussion.\n
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            Mearsheimer is just one example, and he is a preeminent political scientist in the US. The reality is that there is propaganda in the west just like there is in Russia, and western media often omits covering things that RT covers. Simply dismissing information based on the source is frankly absurd.\n
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            Incidentally, Mearsheimer gave an entire lecture back in 2014 predicting the events in Ukraine that are currently unfolding, seems to me that he might know what he’s talking about [www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4)\n
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            > I will, however, refrain from posting on lemmy.ml in the future, because I can see that you are a mod of several communities on this instance and your overall conduct in this post has been rather childish and disrespectful. I feel like mods should hold themselves to a higher standard.\n
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            Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
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            The actual truth is that it’s NATO that’s been constantly expanding towards Russia. It’s also NATO that’s been invading and destroying countries since the end of USSR. Syria, Libya, and Yugoslavia being some prominent examples.\n
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            > False equivalence.\n
            \n
            It’s not.\n
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            > Because Russia attacked them.\n
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            No, Ukraine has been engaged in atrocities in Donbas since 2014 as even western media reported at the time.\n
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            > It is in fact the opposite. No neutral country stays that way for long when Russia wants it’s territory.\n
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            > Ukrainians now fight Russia, both sides are getting exhausted and it all depends on what help Ukraine gets. Your magical peace treaty would just mean Russia trying this again in 5 years or less.\n
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            That’s complete and utter nonsense, and even western media now admits this.\n
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            Now that’s what actual false equivalence looks like.
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            > Russian propaganda talking point.\n
            \n
            Ah yes, Russian propaganda point as reported by CNN back in 2014 [twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296](https://twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296)\n
            \n
            There’s even an hour long documentary from France on this [www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs)\n
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            Pretending this just didn’t happen is the height of intellectual dishonesty.\n
            \n
            > Euromaidan was not a coup.\n
            \n
            Yes, it was and there’s overwhelming evidence for it.\n
            \n
            > Cite sources for the first point and military strategy analysts for the second.\n
            \n
            Are you just incapable of using google, I guess that would explain why you believe in nonsense. Here you go. First of all Russian economy is now rapidly growing while the west is going into a recession. This is not a country that’s showing any signs of being exhausted:\n
            \n
            - [newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-op…](https://www.newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-opinion-1861645)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-rosstat-2023-12-13/)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russian-factory-activity-expands-fa…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russian-factory-activity-expands-fastest-pace-seven-years-dec-pmi-2023-12-29/)\n
            \n
            and here’s some recent mainstream media reporting on the state of the war for you to chew on\n
            \n
            - [www.nytimes.com/2024/…/ukraine-russia-war.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/13/world/europe/ukraine-russia-war.html)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defen…](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defence-minister-says-2024-01-10/)\n
            - [lepoint.fr/…/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d…](https://www.lepoint.fr/monde/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d-une-debacle-05-01-2024-2549049_24.php)\n
            - [lemonde.fr/…/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-ex…](https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2023/09/27/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-express-discontent-i-repeatedly-told-them-nato-manuals-didn-t-apply_6140349_4.html)\n
            - [spiegel.de/…/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-…](https://www.spiegel.de/politik/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-deutschen-pannen-panzern-a-cd9421ae-4a96-4d4f-983a-6205a063ae15)\n
            - [archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73](https://archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73)\n
            - [telegraph.co.uk/…/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-…](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/12/27/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-tide-war-ukraine/)\n
            - [www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/…/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/ukraine-war-victory-hopes-dim-intl/index.html)\n
            - [cbc.ca/…/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232](https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232)\n
            \n
            and here’s some analysis from military strategists for you\n
            \n
            - [www.russiamatters.org/…/whats-ahead-war-ukraine](https://www.russiamatters.org/analysis/whats-ahead-war-ukraine)\n
            - […substack.com/…/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukra…](https://mearsheimer.substack.com/p/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukraine)\n
            - [rusi.org/…/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challeng…](https://www.rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challenges-and-innovations)\n
            \n
            Russia will win this war, and the only thing the west has achieved was to help destroy Ukraine by sabotaging negotiations in 2022.
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            Russian economy is growing while the west is going into a recession. [Russian factory activity grows at fastest pace in over six years](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-factory-activity-grows-fastest-pace-over-six-years-sept-pmi-2023-10-02/), meanwhile [while US manufacturing activity shrinks the most in three years.](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-07-03/us-manufacturing-activity-shrinks-by-most-in-three-years). UK now [can’t even make steel from raw materials.](https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/jan/18/tata-steel-to-shut-down-port-talbot-blast-furnaces-3000-jobs-at-risk)\n
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            Yes, people still bleat about a weaker Russia. 🤡
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          +body: "Here’s an idea go sign up as a volunteer in Ukraine and fight yourself instead of cheering on for other people to die for you, you disgusting sack of shit."
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            The fact that the west was deeply involved in the coup is well documented even in western media\n
            \n
            - [quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukr…](https://www.quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukraines-2014-revolution-was-due-to-a-CIA-coup) ([archive.ph/BAxYc](https://archive.ph/BAxYc))\n
            - [consortiumnews.com/…/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-i…](https://consortiumnews.com/2022/12/29/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-in-kiev/)\n
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            The foundations of my beliefs are that the west saw itself as the winner of the cold war after USSR dissolved, and decided to renege on all the promises that were made in the 90s. This created increasing tensions with Russia, and eventually led to the war we’re seeing play out in Ukraine. This is a proxy war between NATO and Russia, and it’s following the script that [was outlined by RAND](https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR3063.html).\n
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            The west made a huge miscalculation thinking that it could defeat Russia militarily and economically, and now the whole thing is starting to backfire. NATO is finding that it lacks the industrial base to sustain the conflict. Russia managed to reroute its trade away from the west, which caused immeasurable economic damage to Europe. The world outside the G7 has been increasingly aligning towards Russia and China and away from the west. This proxy war is heralding the end of the unipolar moment that US enjoyed and ushering in multipolarity.\n
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            > I have been using Google for long enough to know that it often shows us what we want to see, not that which is most likely to be correct. :)\n
            \n
            Have you considered that this might be why you still think that Ukraine is winning despite all the evidence to the contrary?\n
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            > Regarding Russian economic data you seem to be flaunting, Russia has made it hard for outside sources to verify any of it.\n
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            Every mainstream western outlet, including the IMF, agrees that Russian economy is growing. No serious economists dispute this.\n
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            > You seem to derive a lot of your opinions from mearsheimer.substack.com source but the sources the author uses to prove your points often come from rt.com which is like, the worst source for this discussion.\n
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            Mearsheimer is just one example, and he is a preeminent political scientist in the US. The reality is that there is propaganda in the west just like there is in Russia, and western media often omits covering things that RT covers. Simply dismissing information based on the source is frankly absurd.\n
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            Incidentally, Mearsheimer gave an entire lecture back in 2014 predicting the events in Ukraine that are currently unfolding, seems to me that he might know what he’s talking about [www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4)\n
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            > I will, however, refrain from posting on lemmy.ml in the future, because I can see that you are a mod of several communities on this instance and your overall conduct in this post has been rather childish and disrespectful. I feel like mods should hold themselves to a higher standard.\n
            \n
            Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
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          +body: "After two years, it’s pretty clear that the west is not capable of doing anything of the sort. All the west managed to achieve was to ensure that hundreds of thousands of people died, and that Ukraine lost large parts of its territory in the process. We now have admissions from Ukrainian negotiators that a peace deal was close to being reached last March before the west sabotaged it."
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            The actual truth is that it’s NATO that’s been constantly expanding towards Russia. It’s also NATO that’s been invading and destroying countries since the end of USSR. Syria, Libya, and Yugoslavia being some prominent examples.\n
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            Meanwhile, Russia tried to resolve this situation diplomatically since 2008 with Minsk agreements that western leaders now openly admit were a delaying tactic by the west.\n
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            Finally, section IX of Ukraine’s 1990 Declaration of State Sovereignty states the following:\n
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            [The Ukrainian SSR solemnly declares its intention of becoming a permanently neutral state that does not participate in military blocs and adheres to three nuclear free principles: to accept, to produce and to purchase no nuclear weapons.](https://web.archive.org/web/20130615031823/https://static.rada.gov.ua/site/postanova_eng/Declaration_of_State_Sovereignty_of_Ukraine_rev1.htm)\n
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            Now, thanks to western “help”, Ukraine will lose far more territory than it would have if the deal was done last year, and it may even cease to exist as a state. I can’t wait for you to explain how this actually helps people of Ukraine.
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            > False equivalence.\n
            \n
            It’s not.\n
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            > Because Russia attacked them.\n
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            No, Ukraine has been engaged in atrocities in Donbas since 2014 as even western media reported at the time.\n
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            > It is in fact the opposite. No neutral country stays that way for long when Russia wants it’s territory.\n
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            I see you have problems with reading comprehension.\n
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            > If the West had not helped, there would be no Ukraine either. We would be condemning them to a decade of guerilla warfare and oppression. Emboldened by his victory, Putin would look further west.\n
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            If the west didn’t run a coup to overthrow a democratically elected government then there would’ve been no troubles in Ukraine. Period.\n
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            > Ukrainians now fight Russia, both sides are getting exhausted and it all depends on what help Ukraine gets. Your magical peace treaty would just mean Russia trying this again in 5 years or less.\n
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            That’s complete and utter nonsense, and even western media now admits this.\n
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            > You could have used the same arguments to make peace with the Nazis in 1941 and the world would only be worse for it.\n
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            Now that’s what actual false equivalence looks like.
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            > Russian propaganda talking point.\n
            \n
            Ah yes, Russian propaganda point as reported by CNN back in 2014 [twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296](https://twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296)\n
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            There’s even an hour long documentary from France on this [www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs)\n
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            Pretending this just didn’t happen is the height of intellectual dishonesty.\n
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            > Euromaidan was not a coup.\n
            \n
            Yes, it was and there’s overwhelming evidence for it.\n
            \n
            > Cite sources for the first point and military strategy analysts for the second.\n
            \n
            Are you just incapable of using google, I guess that would explain why you believe in nonsense. Here you go. First of all Russian economy is now rapidly growing while the west is going into a recession. This is not a country that’s showing any signs of being exhausted:\n
            \n
            - [newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-op…](https://www.newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-opinion-1861645)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-rosstat-2023-12-13/)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russian-factory-activity-expands-fa…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russian-factory-activity-expands-fastest-pace-seven-years-dec-pmi-2023-12-29/)\n
            \n
            and here’s some recent mainstream media reporting on the state of the war for you to chew on\n
            \n
            - [www.nytimes.com/2024/…/ukraine-russia-war.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/13/world/europe/ukraine-russia-war.html)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defen…](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defence-minister-says-2024-01-10/)\n
            - [lepoint.fr/…/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d…](https://www.lepoint.fr/monde/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d-une-debacle-05-01-2024-2549049_24.php)\n
            - [lemonde.fr/…/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-ex…](https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2023/09/27/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-express-discontent-i-repeatedly-told-them-nato-manuals-didn-t-apply_6140349_4.html)\n
            - [spiegel.de/…/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-…](https://www.spiegel.de/politik/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-deutschen-pannen-panzern-a-cd9421ae-4a96-4d4f-983a-6205a063ae15)\n
            - [archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73](https://archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73)\n
            - [telegraph.co.uk/…/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-…](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/12/27/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-tide-war-ukraine/)\n
            - [www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/…/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/ukraine-war-victory-hopes-dim-intl/index.html)\n
            - [cbc.ca/…/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232](https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232)\n
            \n
            and here’s some analysis from military strategists for you\n
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            - [www.russiamatters.org/…/whats-ahead-war-ukraine](https://www.russiamatters.org/analysis/whats-ahead-war-ukraine)\n
            - […substack.com/…/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukra…](https://mearsheimer.substack.com/p/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukraine)\n
            - [rusi.org/…/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challeng…](https://www.rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challenges-and-innovations)\n
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            Russia will win this war, and the only thing the west has achieved was to help destroy Ukraine by sabotaging negotiations in 2022.
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          +body: "Share a source for NATO invading Yugoslavia, Libya, Syria, and Afghanistan, is that what you’re asking there little buddy?"
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            Russian economy is growing while the west is going into a recession. [Russian factory activity grows at fastest pace in over six years](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-factory-activity-grows-fastest-pace-over-six-years-sept-pmi-2023-10-02/), meanwhile [while US manufacturing activity shrinks the most in three years.](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-07-03/us-manufacturing-activity-shrinks-by-most-in-three-years). UK now [can’t even make steel from raw materials.](https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/jan/18/tata-steel-to-shut-down-port-talbot-blast-furnaces-3000-jobs-at-risk)\n
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            Yes, people still bleat about a weaker Russia. 🤡
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          +body: "Here’s an idea go sign up as a volunteer in Ukraine and fight yourself instead of cheering on for other people to die for you, you disgusting sack of shit."
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            The fact that the west was deeply involved in the coup is well documented even in western media\n
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            - [quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukr…](https://www.quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukraines-2014-revolution-was-due-to-a-CIA-coup) ([archive.ph/BAxYc](https://archive.ph/BAxYc))\n
            - [consortiumnews.com/…/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-i…](https://consortiumnews.com/2022/12/29/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-in-kiev/)\n
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            The foundations of my beliefs are that the west saw itself as the winner of the cold war after USSR dissolved, and decided to renege on all the promises that were made in the 90s. This created increasing tensions with Russia, and eventually led to the war we’re seeing play out in Ukraine. This is a proxy war between NATO and Russia, and it’s following the script that [was outlined by RAND](https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR3063.html).\n
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            The west made a huge miscalculation thinking that it could defeat Russia militarily and economically, and now the whole thing is starting to backfire. NATO is finding that it lacks the industrial base to sustain the conflict. Russia managed to reroute its trade away from the west, which caused immeasurable economic damage to Europe. The world outside the G7 has been increasingly aligning towards Russia and China and away from the west. This proxy war is heralding the end of the unipolar moment that US enjoyed and ushering in multipolarity.\n
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            > I have been using Google for long enough to know that it often shows us what we want to see, not that which is most likely to be correct. :)\n
            \n
            Have you considered that this might be why you still think that Ukraine is winning despite all the evidence to the contrary?\n
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            > Regarding Russian economic data you seem to be flaunting, Russia has made it hard for outside sources to verify any of it.\n
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            Every mainstream western outlet, including the IMF, agrees that Russian economy is growing. No serious economists dispute this.\n
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            > You seem to derive a lot of your opinions from mearsheimer.substack.com source but the sources the author uses to prove your points often come from rt.com which is like, the worst source for this discussion.\n
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            Mearsheimer is just one example, and he is a preeminent political scientist in the US. The reality is that there is propaganda in the west just like there is in Russia, and western media often omits covering things that RT covers. Simply dismissing information based on the source is frankly absurd.\n
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            Incidentally, Mearsheimer gave an entire lecture back in 2014 predicting the events in Ukraine that are currently unfolding, seems to me that he might know what he’s talking about [www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4)\n
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            > I will, however, refrain from posting on lemmy.ml in the future, because I can see that you are a mod of several communities on this instance and your overall conduct in this post has been rather childish and disrespectful. I feel like mods should hold themselves to a higher standard.\n
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            The actual truth is that it’s NATO that’s been constantly expanding towards Russia. It’s also NATO that’s been invading and destroying countries since the end of USSR. Syria, Libya, and Yugoslavia being some prominent examples.\n
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            Meanwhile, Russia tried to resolve this situation diplomatically since 2008 with Minsk agreements that western leaders now openly admit were a delaying tactic by the west.\n
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            Finally, section IX of Ukraine’s 1990 Declaration of State Sovereignty states the following:\n
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            [The Ukrainian SSR solemnly declares its intention of becoming a permanently neutral state that does not participate in military blocs and adheres to three nuclear free principles: to accept, to produce and to purchase no nuclear weapons.](https://web.archive.org/web/20130615031823/https://static.rada.gov.ua/site/postanova_eng/Declaration_of_State_Sovereignty_of_Ukraine_rev1.htm)\n
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            The whole legal basis for the existence of state of Ukraine is predicated on Ukraine staying neutral and not joining military blocs. Ukraine broke the very basis of this agreement when it tried to join NATO.\n
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            Now, thanks to western “help”, Ukraine will lose far more territory than it would have if the deal was done last year, and it may even cease to exist as a state. I can’t wait for you to explain how this actually helps people of Ukraine.
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            > False equivalence.\n
            \n
            It’s not.\n
            \n
            > Because Russia attacked them.\n
            \n
            No, Ukraine has been engaged in atrocities in Donbas since 2014 as even western media reported at the time.\n
            \n
            > It is in fact the opposite. No neutral country stays that way for long when Russia wants it’s territory.\n
            \n
            I see you have problems with reading comprehension.\n
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            > If the West had not helped, there would be no Ukraine either. We would be condemning them to a decade of guerilla warfare and oppression. Emboldened by his victory, Putin would look further west.\n
            \n
            If the west didn’t run a coup to overthrow a democratically elected government then there would’ve been no troubles in Ukraine. Period.\n
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            > Ukrainians now fight Russia, both sides are getting exhausted and it all depends on what help Ukraine gets. Your magical peace treaty would just mean Russia trying this again in 5 years or less.\n
            \n
            That’s complete and utter nonsense, and even western media now admits this.\n
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            > You could have used the same arguments to make peace with the Nazis in 1941 and the world would only be worse for it.\n
            \n
            Now that’s what actual false equivalence looks like.
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            > Russian propaganda talking point.\n
            \n
            Ah yes, Russian propaganda point as reported by CNN back in 2014 [twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296](https://twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296)\n
            \n
            There’s even an hour long documentary from France on this [www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs)\n
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            Pretending this just didn’t happen is the height of intellectual dishonesty.\n
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            > Euromaidan was not a coup.\n
            \n
            Yes, it was and there’s overwhelming evidence for it.\n
            \n
            > Cite sources for the first point and military strategy analysts for the second.\n
            \n
            Are you just incapable of using google, I guess that would explain why you believe in nonsense. Here you go. First of all Russian economy is now rapidly growing while the west is going into a recession. This is not a country that’s showing any signs of being exhausted:\n
            \n
            - [newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-op…](https://www.newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-opinion-1861645)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-rosstat-2023-12-13/)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russian-factory-activity-expands-fa…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russian-factory-activity-expands-fastest-pace-seven-years-dec-pmi-2023-12-29/)\n
            \n
            and here’s some recent mainstream media reporting on the state of the war for you to chew on\n
            \n
            - [www.nytimes.com/2024/…/ukraine-russia-war.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/13/world/europe/ukraine-russia-war.html)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defen…](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defence-minister-says-2024-01-10/)\n
            - [lepoint.fr/…/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d…](https://www.lepoint.fr/monde/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d-une-debacle-05-01-2024-2549049_24.php)\n
            - [lemonde.fr/…/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-ex…](https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2023/09/27/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-express-discontent-i-repeatedly-told-them-nato-manuals-didn-t-apply_6140349_4.html)\n
            - [spiegel.de/…/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-…](https://www.spiegel.de/politik/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-deutschen-pannen-panzern-a-cd9421ae-4a96-4d4f-983a-6205a063ae15)\n
            - [archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73](https://archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73)\n
            - [telegraph.co.uk/…/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-…](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/12/27/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-tide-war-ukraine/)\n
            - [www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/…/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/ukraine-war-victory-hopes-dim-intl/index.html)\n
            - [cbc.ca/…/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232](https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232)\n
            \n
            and here’s some analysis from military strategists for you\n
            \n
            - [www.russiamatters.org/…/whats-ahead-war-ukraine](https://www.russiamatters.org/analysis/whats-ahead-war-ukraine)\n
            - […substack.com/…/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukra…](https://mearsheimer.substack.com/p/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukraine)\n
            - [rusi.org/…/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challeng…](https://www.rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challenges-and-innovations)\n
            \n
            Russia will win this war, and the only thing the west has achieved was to help destroy Ukraine by sabotaging negotiations in 2022.
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          +body: "No, I’m saying that anybody can type in words NATO and Yugoslavia or NATO and Libya into Google and see that you’re a liar."
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            Russian economy is growing while the west is going into a recession. [Russian factory activity grows at fastest pace in over six years](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-factory-activity-grows-fastest-pace-over-six-years-sept-pmi-2023-10-02/), meanwhile [while US manufacturing activity shrinks the most in three years.](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-07-03/us-manufacturing-activity-shrinks-by-most-in-three-years). UK now [can’t even make steel from raw materials.](https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/jan/18/tata-steel-to-shut-down-port-talbot-blast-furnaces-3000-jobs-at-risk)\n
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            Yes, people still bleat about a weaker Russia. 🤡
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          +body: "Here’s an idea go sign up as a volunteer in Ukraine and fight yourself instead of cheering on for other people to die for you, you disgusting sack of shit."
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            The fact that the west was deeply involved in the coup is well documented even in western media\n
            \n
            - [quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukr…](https://www.quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukraines-2014-revolution-was-due-to-a-CIA-coup) ([archive.ph/BAxYc](https://archive.ph/BAxYc))\n
            - [consortiumnews.com/…/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-i…](https://consortiumnews.com/2022/12/29/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-in-kiev/)\n
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            The foundations of my beliefs are that the west saw itself as the winner of the cold war after USSR dissolved, and decided to renege on all the promises that were made in the 90s. This created increasing tensions with Russia, and eventually led to the war we’re seeing play out in Ukraine. This is a proxy war between NATO and Russia, and it’s following the script that [was outlined by RAND](https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR3063.html).\n
            \n
            The west made a huge miscalculation thinking that it could defeat Russia militarily and economically, and now the whole thing is starting to backfire. NATO is finding that it lacks the industrial base to sustain the conflict. Russia managed to reroute its trade away from the west, which caused immeasurable economic damage to Europe. The world outside the G7 has been increasingly aligning towards Russia and China and away from the west. This proxy war is heralding the end of the unipolar moment that US enjoyed and ushering in multipolarity.\n
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            > I have been using Google for long enough to know that it often shows us what we want to see, not that which is most likely to be correct. :)\n
            \n
            Have you considered that this might be why you still think that Ukraine is winning despite all the evidence to the contrary?\n
            \n
            > Regarding Russian economic data you seem to be flaunting, Russia has made it hard for outside sources to verify any of it.\n
            \n
            Every mainstream western outlet, including the IMF, agrees that Russian economy is growing. No serious economists dispute this.\n
            \n
            > You seem to derive a lot of your opinions from mearsheimer.substack.com source but the sources the author uses to prove your points often come from rt.com which is like, the worst source for this discussion.\n
            \n
            Mearsheimer is just one example, and he is a preeminent political scientist in the US. The reality is that there is propaganda in the west just like there is in Russia, and western media often omits covering things that RT covers. Simply dismissing information based on the source is frankly absurd.\n
            \n
            Incidentally, Mearsheimer gave an entire lecture back in 2014 predicting the events in Ukraine that are currently unfolding, seems to me that he might know what he’s talking about [www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4)\n
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            > I will, however, refrain from posting on lemmy.ml in the future, because I can see that you are a mod of several communities on this instance and your overall conduct in this post has been rather childish and disrespectful. I feel like mods should hold themselves to a higher standard.\n
            \n
            Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
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            > False equivalence.\n
            \n
            It’s not.\n
            \n
            > Because Russia attacked them.\n
            \n
            No, Ukraine has been engaged in atrocities in Donbas since 2014 as even western media reported at the time.\n
            \n
            > It is in fact the opposite. No neutral country stays that way for long when Russia wants it’s territory.\n
            \n
            I see you have problems with reading comprehension.\n
            \n
            > If the West had not helped, there would be no Ukraine either. We would be condemning them to a decade of guerilla warfare and oppression. Emboldened by his victory, Putin would look further west.\n
            \n
            If the west didn’t run a coup to overthrow a democratically elected government then there would’ve been no troubles in Ukraine. Period.\n
            \n
            > Ukrainians now fight Russia, both sides are getting exhausted and it all depends on what help Ukraine gets. Your magical peace treaty would just mean Russia trying this again in 5 years or less.\n
            \n
            That’s complete and utter nonsense, and even western media now admits this.\n
            \n
            > You could have used the same arguments to make peace with the Nazis in 1941 and the world would only be worse for it.\n
            \n
            Now that’s what actual false equivalence looks like.
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            > Russian propaganda talking point.\n
            \n
            Ah yes, Russian propaganda point as reported by CNN back in 2014 [twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296](https://twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296)\n
            \n
            There’s even an hour long documentary from France on this [www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs)\n
            \n
            Pretending this just didn’t happen is the height of intellectual dishonesty.\n
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            > Euromaidan was not a coup.\n
            \n
            Yes, it was and there’s overwhelming evidence for it.\n
            \n
            > Cite sources for the first point and military strategy analysts for the second.\n
            \n
            Are you just incapable of using google, I guess that would explain why you believe in nonsense. Here you go. First of all Russian economy is now rapidly growing while the west is going into a recession. This is not a country that’s showing any signs of being exhausted:\n
            \n
            - [newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-op…](https://www.newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-opinion-1861645)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-rosstat-2023-12-13/)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russian-factory-activity-expands-fa…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russian-factory-activity-expands-fastest-pace-seven-years-dec-pmi-2023-12-29/)\n
            \n
            and here’s some recent mainstream media reporting on the state of the war for you to chew on\n
            \n
            - [www.nytimes.com/2024/…/ukraine-russia-war.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/13/world/europe/ukraine-russia-war.html)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defen…](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defence-minister-says-2024-01-10/)\n
            - [lepoint.fr/…/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d…](https://www.lepoint.fr/monde/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d-une-debacle-05-01-2024-2549049_24.php)\n
            - [lemonde.fr/…/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-ex…](https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2023/09/27/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-express-discontent-i-repeatedly-told-them-nato-manuals-didn-t-apply_6140349_4.html)\n
            - [spiegel.de/…/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-…](https://www.spiegel.de/politik/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-deutschen-pannen-panzern-a-cd9421ae-4a96-4d4f-983a-6205a063ae15)\n
            - [archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73](https://archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73)\n
            - [telegraph.co.uk/…/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-…](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/12/27/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-tide-war-ukraine/)\n
            - [www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/…/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/ukraine-war-victory-hopes-dim-intl/index.html)\n
            - [cbc.ca/…/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232](https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232)\n
            \n
            and here’s some analysis from military strategists for you\n
            \n
            - [www.russiamatters.org/…/whats-ahead-war-ukraine](https://www.russiamatters.org/analysis/whats-ahead-war-ukraine)\n
            - […substack.com/…/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukra…](https://mearsheimer.substack.com/p/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukraine)\n
            - [rusi.org/…/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challeng…](https://www.rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challenges-and-innovations)\n
            \n
            Russia will win this war, and the only thing the west has achieved was to help destroy Ukraine by sabotaging negotiations in 2022.
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          +body: "Share a source for NATO invading Yugoslavia, Libya, Syria, and Afghanistan, is that what you’re asking there little buddy?"
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            Russian economy is growing while the west is going into a recession. [Russian factory activity grows at fastest pace in over six years](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-factory-activity-grows-fastest-pace-over-six-years-sept-pmi-2023-10-02/), meanwhile [while US manufacturing activity shrinks the most in three years.](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-07-03/us-manufacturing-activity-shrinks-by-most-in-three-years). UK now [can’t even make steel from raw materials.](https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/jan/18/tata-steel-to-shut-down-port-talbot-blast-furnaces-3000-jobs-at-risk)\n
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            Yes, people still bleat about a weaker Russia. 🤡
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            The fact that the west was deeply involved in the coup is well documented even in western media\n
            \n
            - [quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukr…](https://www.quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukraines-2014-revolution-was-due-to-a-CIA-coup) ([archive.ph/BAxYc](https://archive.ph/BAxYc))\n
            - [consortiumnews.com/…/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-i…](https://consortiumnews.com/2022/12/29/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-in-kiev/)\n
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            The foundations of my beliefs are that the west saw itself as the winner of the cold war after USSR dissolved, and decided to renege on all the promises that were made in the 90s. This created increasing tensions with Russia, and eventually led to the war we’re seeing play out in Ukraine. This is a proxy war between NATO and Russia, and it’s following the script that [was outlined by RAND](https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR3063.html).\n
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            The west made a huge miscalculation thinking that it could defeat Russia militarily and economically, and now the whole thing is starting to backfire. NATO is finding that it lacks the industrial base to sustain the conflict. Russia managed to reroute its trade away from the west, which caused immeasurable economic damage to Europe. The world outside the G7 has been increasingly aligning towards Russia and China and away from the west. This proxy war is heralding the end of the unipolar moment that US enjoyed and ushering in multipolarity.\n
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            > I have been using Google for long enough to know that it often shows us what we want to see, not that which is most likely to be correct. :)\n
            \n
            Have you considered that this might be why you still think that Ukraine is winning despite all the evidence to the contrary?\n
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            > Regarding Russian economic data you seem to be flaunting, Russia has made it hard for outside sources to verify any of it.\n
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            Every mainstream western outlet, including the IMF, agrees that Russian economy is growing. No serious economists dispute this.\n
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            > You seem to derive a lot of your opinions from mearsheimer.substack.com source but the sources the author uses to prove your points often come from rt.com which is like, the worst source for this discussion.\n
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            Mearsheimer is just one example, and he is a preeminent political scientist in the US. The reality is that there is propaganda in the west just like there is in Russia, and western media often omits covering things that RT covers. Simply dismissing information based on the source is frankly absurd.\n
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            Incidentally, Mearsheimer gave an entire lecture back in 2014 predicting the events in Ukraine that are currently unfolding, seems to me that he might know what he’s talking about [www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4)\n
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            > I will, however, refrain from posting on lemmy.ml in the future, because I can see that you are a mod of several communities on this instance and your overall conduct in this post has been rather childish and disrespectful. I feel like mods should hold themselves to a higher standard.\n
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            Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
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            The actual truth is that it’s NATO that’s been constantly expanding towards Russia. It’s also NATO that’s been invading and destroying countries since the end of USSR. Syria, Libya, and Yugoslavia being some prominent examples.\n
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            Meanwhile, Russia tried to resolve this situation diplomatically since 2008 with Minsk agreements that western leaders now openly admit were a delaying tactic by the west.\n
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            > False equivalence.\n
            \n
            It’s not.\n
            \n
            > Because Russia attacked them.\n
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            No, Ukraine has been engaged in atrocities in Donbas since 2014 as even western media reported at the time.\n
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            > It is in fact the opposite. No neutral country stays that way for long when Russia wants it’s territory.\n
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            I see you have problems with reading comprehension.\n
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            > If the West had not helped, there would be no Ukraine either. We would be condemning them to a decade of guerilla warfare and oppression. Emboldened by his victory, Putin would look further west.\n
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            If the west didn’t run a coup to overthrow a democratically elected government then there would’ve been no troubles in Ukraine. Period.\n
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            > Ukrainians now fight Russia, both sides are getting exhausted and it all depends on what help Ukraine gets. Your magical peace treaty would just mean Russia trying this again in 5 years or less.\n
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            That’s complete and utter nonsense, and even western media now admits this.\n
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            > You could have used the same arguments to make peace with the Nazis in 1941 and the world would only be worse for it.\n
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            Now that’s what actual false equivalence looks like.
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            > Russian propaganda talking point.\n
            \n
            Ah yes, Russian propaganda point as reported by CNN back in 2014 [twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296](https://twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296)\n
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            There’s even an hour long documentary from France on this [www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs)\n
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            Pretending this just didn’t happen is the height of intellectual dishonesty.\n
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            > Euromaidan was not a coup.\n
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            Yes, it was and there’s overwhelming evidence for it.\n
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            > Cite sources for the first point and military strategy analysts for the second.\n
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            Are you just incapable of using google, I guess that would explain why you believe in nonsense. Here you go. First of all Russian economy is now rapidly growing while the west is going into a recession. This is not a country that’s showing any signs of being exhausted:\n
            \n
            - [newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-op…](https://www.newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-opinion-1861645)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-rosstat-2023-12-13/)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russian-factory-activity-expands-fa…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russian-factory-activity-expands-fastest-pace-seven-years-dec-pmi-2023-12-29/)\n
            \n
            and here’s some recent mainstream media reporting on the state of the war for you to chew on\n
            \n
            - [www.nytimes.com/2024/…/ukraine-russia-war.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/13/world/europe/ukraine-russia-war.html)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defen…](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defence-minister-says-2024-01-10/)\n
            - [lepoint.fr/…/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d…](https://www.lepoint.fr/monde/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d-une-debacle-05-01-2024-2549049_24.php)\n
            - [lemonde.fr/…/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-ex…](https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2023/09/27/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-express-discontent-i-repeatedly-told-them-nato-manuals-didn-t-apply_6140349_4.html)\n
            - [spiegel.de/…/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-…](https://www.spiegel.de/politik/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-deutschen-pannen-panzern-a-cd9421ae-4a96-4d4f-983a-6205a063ae15)\n
            - [archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73](https://archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73)\n
            - [telegraph.co.uk/…/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-…](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/12/27/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-tide-war-ukraine/)\n
            - [www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/…/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/ukraine-war-victory-hopes-dim-intl/index.html)\n
            - [cbc.ca/…/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232](https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232)\n
            \n
            and here’s some analysis from military strategists for you\n
            \n
            - [www.russiamatters.org/…/whats-ahead-war-ukraine](https://www.russiamatters.org/analysis/whats-ahead-war-ukraine)\n
            - […substack.com/…/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukra…](https://mearsheimer.substack.com/p/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukraine)\n
            - [rusi.org/…/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challeng…](https://www.rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challenges-and-innovations)\n
            \n
            Russia will win this war, and the only thing the west has achieved was to help destroy Ukraine by sabotaging negotiations in 2022.
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            Russian economy is growing while the west is going into a recession. [Russian factory activity grows at fastest pace in over six years](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-factory-activity-grows-fastest-pace-over-six-years-sept-pmi-2023-10-02/), meanwhile [while US manufacturing activity shrinks the most in three years.](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-07-03/us-manufacturing-activity-shrinks-by-most-in-three-years). UK now [can’t even make steel from raw materials.](https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/jan/18/tata-steel-to-shut-down-port-talbot-blast-furnaces-3000-jobs-at-risk)\n
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            The fact that the west was deeply involved in the coup is well documented even in western media\n
            \n
            - [quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukr…](https://www.quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukraines-2014-revolution-was-due-to-a-CIA-coup) ([archive.ph/BAxYc](https://archive.ph/BAxYc))\n
            - [consortiumnews.com/…/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-i…](https://consortiumnews.com/2022/12/29/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-in-kiev/)\n
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            The foundations of my beliefs are that the west saw itself as the winner of the cold war after USSR dissolved, and decided to renege on all the promises that were made in the 90s. This created increasing tensions with Russia, and eventually led to the war we’re seeing play out in Ukraine. This is a proxy war between NATO and Russia, and it’s following the script that [was outlined by RAND](https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR3063.html).\n
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            The west made a huge miscalculation thinking that it could defeat Russia militarily and economically, and now the whole thing is starting to backfire. NATO is finding that it lacks the industrial base to sustain the conflict. Russia managed to reroute its trade away from the west, which caused immeasurable economic damage to Europe. The world outside the G7 has been increasingly aligning towards Russia and China and away from the west. This proxy war is heralding the end of the unipolar moment that US enjoyed and ushering in multipolarity.\n
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            > I have been using Google for long enough to know that it often shows us what we want to see, not that which is most likely to be correct. :)\n
            \n
            Have you considered that this might be why you still think that Ukraine is winning despite all the evidence to the contrary?\n
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            > Regarding Russian economic data you seem to be flaunting, Russia has made it hard for outside sources to verify any of it.\n
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            Every mainstream western outlet, including the IMF, agrees that Russian economy is growing. No serious economists dispute this.\n
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            > You seem to derive a lot of your opinions from mearsheimer.substack.com source but the sources the author uses to prove your points often come from rt.com which is like, the worst source for this discussion.\n
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            Mearsheimer is just one example, and he is a preeminent political scientist in the US. The reality is that there is propaganda in the west just like there is in Russia, and western media often omits covering things that RT covers. Simply dismissing information based on the source is frankly absurd.\n
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            Incidentally, Mearsheimer gave an entire lecture back in 2014 predicting the events in Ukraine that are currently unfolding, seems to me that he might know what he’s talking about [www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4)\n
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            > I will, however, refrain from posting on lemmy.ml in the future, because I can see that you are a mod of several communities on this instance and your overall conduct in this post has been rather childish and disrespectful. I feel like mods should hold themselves to a higher standard.\n
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            Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
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          +body: "After two years, it’s pretty clear that the west is not capable of doing anything of the sort. All the west managed to achieve was to ensure that hundreds of thousands of people died, and that Ukraine lost large parts of its territory in the process. We now have admissions from Ukrainian negotiators that a peace deal was close to being reached last March before the west sabotaged it."
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            The actual truth is that it’s NATO that’s been constantly expanding towards Russia. It’s also NATO that’s been invading and destroying countries since the end of USSR. Syria, Libya, and Yugoslavia being some prominent examples.\n
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            Meanwhile, Russia tried to resolve this situation diplomatically since 2008 with Minsk agreements that western leaders now openly admit were a delaying tactic by the west.\n
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            Finally, section IX of Ukraine’s 1990 Declaration of State Sovereignty states the following:\n
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          +body: "NATO is an aggressive alliance that has invaded and destroyed numerous countries. The fact that you keep pretending that it’s a defensive alliance just shows how utterly dishonest you are."
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            > Russian propaganda talking point.\n
            \n
            Ah yes, Russian propaganda point as reported by CNN back in 2014 [twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296](https://twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296)\n
            \n
            There’s even an hour long documentary from France on this [www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs)\n
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            Pretending this just didn’t happen is the height of intellectual dishonesty.\n
            \n
            > Euromaidan was not a coup.\n
            \n
            Yes, it was and there’s overwhelming evidence for it.\n
            \n
            > Cite sources for the first point and military strategy analysts for the second.\n
            \n
            Are you just incapable of using google, I guess that would explain why you believe in nonsense. Here you go. First of all Russian economy is now rapidly growing while the west is going into a recession. This is not a country that’s showing any signs of being exhausted:\n
            \n
            - [newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-op…](https://www.newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-opinion-1861645)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-rosstat-2023-12-13/)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russian-factory-activity-expands-fa…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russian-factory-activity-expands-fastest-pace-seven-years-dec-pmi-2023-12-29/)\n
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            and here’s some recent mainstream media reporting on the state of the war for you to chew on\n
            \n
            - [www.nytimes.com/2024/…/ukraine-russia-war.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/13/world/europe/ukraine-russia-war.html)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defen…](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defence-minister-says-2024-01-10/)\n
            - [lepoint.fr/…/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d…](https://www.lepoint.fr/monde/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d-une-debacle-05-01-2024-2549049_24.php)\n
            - [lemonde.fr/…/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-ex…](https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2023/09/27/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-express-discontent-i-repeatedly-told-them-nato-manuals-didn-t-apply_6140349_4.html)\n
            - [spiegel.de/…/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-…](https://www.spiegel.de/politik/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-deutschen-pannen-panzern-a-cd9421ae-4a96-4d4f-983a-6205a063ae15)\n
            - [archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73](https://archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73)\n
            - [telegraph.co.uk/…/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-…](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/12/27/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-tide-war-ukraine/)\n
            - [www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/…/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/ukraine-war-victory-hopes-dim-intl/index.html)\n
            - [cbc.ca/…/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232](https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232)\n
            \n
            and here’s some analysis from military strategists for you\n
            \n
            - [www.russiamatters.org/…/whats-ahead-war-ukraine](https://www.russiamatters.org/analysis/whats-ahead-war-ukraine)\n
            - […substack.com/…/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukra…](https://mearsheimer.substack.com/p/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukraine)\n
            - [rusi.org/…/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challeng…](https://www.rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challenges-and-innovations)\n
            \n
            Russia will win this war, and the only thing the west has achieved was to help destroy Ukraine by sabotaging negotiations in 2022.
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          +body: "Share a source for NATO invading Yugoslavia, Libya, Syria, and Afghanistan, is that what you’re asking there little buddy?"
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            Russian economy is growing while the west is going into a recession. [Russian factory activity grows at fastest pace in over six years](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-factory-activity-grows-fastest-pace-over-six-years-sept-pmi-2023-10-02/), meanwhile [while US manufacturing activity shrinks the most in three years.](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-07-03/us-manufacturing-activity-shrinks-by-most-in-three-years). UK now [can’t even make steel from raw materials.](https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/jan/18/tata-steel-to-shut-down-port-talbot-blast-furnaces-3000-jobs-at-risk)\n
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            Yes, people still bleat about a weaker Russia. 🤡
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          +body: "Here’s an idea go sign up as a volunteer in Ukraine and fight yourself instead of cheering on for other people to die for you, you disgusting sack of shit."
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            The fact that the west was deeply involved in the coup is well documented even in western media\n
            \n
            - [quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukr…](https://www.quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukraines-2014-revolution-was-due-to-a-CIA-coup) ([archive.ph/BAxYc](https://archive.ph/BAxYc))\n
            - [consortiumnews.com/…/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-i…](https://consortiumnews.com/2022/12/29/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-in-kiev/)\n
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            The foundations of my beliefs are that the west saw itself as the winner of the cold war after USSR dissolved, and decided to renege on all the promises that were made in the 90s. This created increasing tensions with Russia, and eventually led to the war we’re seeing play out in Ukraine. This is a proxy war between NATO and Russia, and it’s following the script that [was outlined by RAND](https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR3063.html).\n
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            The west made a huge miscalculation thinking that it could defeat Russia militarily and economically, and now the whole thing is starting to backfire. NATO is finding that it lacks the industrial base to sustain the conflict. Russia managed to reroute its trade away from the west, which caused immeasurable economic damage to Europe. The world outside the G7 has been increasingly aligning towards Russia and China and away from the west. This proxy war is heralding the end of the unipolar moment that US enjoyed and ushering in multipolarity.\n
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            > I have been using Google for long enough to know that it often shows us what we want to see, not that which is most likely to be correct. :)\n
            \n
            Have you considered that this might be why you still think that Ukraine is winning despite all the evidence to the contrary?\n
            \n
            > Regarding Russian economic data you seem to be flaunting, Russia has made it hard for outside sources to verify any of it.\n
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            Every mainstream western outlet, including the IMF, agrees that Russian economy is growing. No serious economists dispute this.\n
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            > You seem to derive a lot of your opinions from mearsheimer.substack.com source but the sources the author uses to prove your points often come from rt.com which is like, the worst source for this discussion.\n
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            Mearsheimer is just one example, and he is a preeminent political scientist in the US. The reality is that there is propaganda in the west just like there is in Russia, and western media often omits covering things that RT covers. Simply dismissing information based on the source is frankly absurd.\n
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            Incidentally, Mearsheimer gave an entire lecture back in 2014 predicting the events in Ukraine that are currently unfolding, seems to me that he might know what he’s talking about [www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4)\n
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            > I will, however, refrain from posting on lemmy.ml in the future, because I can see that you are a mod of several communities on this instance and your overall conduct in this post has been rather childish and disrespectful. I feel like mods should hold themselves to a higher standard.\n
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            Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
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      > False equivalence.\n
      \n
      It’s not.\n
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      > Because Russia attacked them.\n
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      No, Ukraine has been engaged in atrocities in Donbas since 2014 as even western media reported at the time.\n
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      > It is in fact the opposite. No neutral country stays that way for long when Russia wants it’s territory.\n
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      I see you have problems with reading comprehension.\n
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      > If the West had not helped, there would be no Ukraine either. We would be condemning them to a decade of guerilla warfare and oppression. Emboldened by his victory, Putin would look further west.\n
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      If the west didn’t run a coup to overthrow a democratically elected government then there would’ve been no troubles in Ukraine. Period.\n
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      > Ukrainians now fight Russia, both sides are getting exhausted and it all depends on what help Ukraine gets. Your magical peace treaty would just mean Russia trying this again in 5 years or less.\n
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      That’s complete and utter nonsense, and even western media now admits this.\n
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          +body: "After two years, it’s pretty clear that the west is not capable of doing anything of the sort. All the west managed to achieve was to ensure that hundreds of thousands of people died, and that Ukraine lost large parts of its territory in the process. We now have admissions from Ukrainian negotiators that a peace deal was close to being reached last March before the west sabotaged it."
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            The actual truth is that it’s NATO that’s been constantly expanding towards Russia. It’s also NATO that’s been invading and destroying countries since the end of USSR. Syria, Libya, and Yugoslavia being some prominent examples.\n
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            Meanwhile, Russia tried to resolve this situation diplomatically since 2008 with Minsk agreements that western leaders now openly admit were a delaying tactic by the west.\n
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            Finally, section IX of Ukraine’s 1990 Declaration of State Sovereignty states the following:\n
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            [The Ukrainian SSR solemnly declares its intention of becoming a permanently neutral state that does not participate in military blocs and adheres to three nuclear free principles: to accept, to produce and to purchase no nuclear weapons.](https://web.archive.org/web/20130615031823/https://static.rada.gov.ua/site/postanova_eng/Declaration_of_State_Sovereignty_of_Ukraine_rev1.htm)\n
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            The whole legal basis for the existence of state of Ukraine is predicated on Ukraine staying neutral and not joining military blocs. Ukraine broke the very basis of this agreement when it tried to join NATO.\n
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            Now, thanks to western “help”, Ukraine will lose far more territory than it would have if the deal was done last year, and it may even cease to exist as a state. I can’t wait for you to explain how this actually helps people of Ukraine.
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          +body: "NATO is an aggressive alliance that has invaded and destroyed numerous countries. The fact that you keep pretending that it’s a defensive alliance just shows how utterly dishonest you are."
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            > Russian propaganda talking point.\n
            \n
            Ah yes, Russian propaganda point as reported by CNN back in 2014 [twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296](https://twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296)\n
            \n
            There’s even an hour long documentary from France on this [www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs)\n
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            Pretending this just didn’t happen is the height of intellectual dishonesty.\n
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            > Euromaidan was not a coup.\n
            \n
            Yes, it was and there’s overwhelming evidence for it.\n
            \n
            > Cite sources for the first point and military strategy analysts for the second.\n
            \n
            Are you just incapable of using google, I guess that would explain why you believe in nonsense. Here you go. First of all Russian economy is now rapidly growing while the west is going into a recession. This is not a country that’s showing any signs of being exhausted:\n
            \n
            - [newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-op…](https://www.newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-opinion-1861645)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-rosstat-2023-12-13/)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russian-factory-activity-expands-fa…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russian-factory-activity-expands-fastest-pace-seven-years-dec-pmi-2023-12-29/)\n
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            and here’s some recent mainstream media reporting on the state of the war for you to chew on\n
            \n
            - [www.nytimes.com/2024/…/ukraine-russia-war.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/13/world/europe/ukraine-russia-war.html)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defen…](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defence-minister-says-2024-01-10/)\n
            - [lepoint.fr/…/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d…](https://www.lepoint.fr/monde/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d-une-debacle-05-01-2024-2549049_24.php)\n
            - [lemonde.fr/…/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-ex…](https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2023/09/27/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-express-discontent-i-repeatedly-told-them-nato-manuals-didn-t-apply_6140349_4.html)\n
            - [spiegel.de/…/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-…](https://www.spiegel.de/politik/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-deutschen-pannen-panzern-a-cd9421ae-4a96-4d4f-983a-6205a063ae15)\n
            - [archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73](https://archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73)\n
            - [telegraph.co.uk/…/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-…](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/12/27/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-tide-war-ukraine/)\n
            - [www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/…/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/ukraine-war-victory-hopes-dim-intl/index.html)\n
            - [cbc.ca/…/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232](https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232)\n
            \n
            and here’s some analysis from military strategists for you\n
            \n
            - [www.russiamatters.org/…/whats-ahead-war-ukraine](https://www.russiamatters.org/analysis/whats-ahead-war-ukraine)\n
            - […substack.com/…/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukra…](https://mearsheimer.substack.com/p/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukraine)\n
            - [rusi.org/…/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challeng…](https://www.rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challenges-and-innovations)\n
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            Russia will win this war, and the only thing the west has achieved was to help destroy Ukraine by sabotaging negotiations in 2022.
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          +body: "Share a source for NATO invading Yugoslavia, Libya, Syria, and Afghanistan, is that what you’re asking there little buddy?"
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          +body: "No, I’m saying that anybody can type in words NATO and Yugoslavia or NATO and Libya into Google and see that you’re a liar."
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            Russian economy is growing while the west is going into a recession. [Russian factory activity grows at fastest pace in over six years](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-factory-activity-grows-fastest-pace-over-six-years-sept-pmi-2023-10-02/), meanwhile [while US manufacturing activity shrinks the most in three years.](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-07-03/us-manufacturing-activity-shrinks-by-most-in-three-years). UK now [can’t even make steel from raw materials.](https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/jan/18/tata-steel-to-shut-down-port-talbot-blast-furnaces-3000-jobs-at-risk)\n
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            Yes, people still bleat about a weaker Russia. 🤡
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          +body: "Here’s an idea go sign up as a volunteer in Ukraine and fight yourself instead of cheering on for other people to die for you, you disgusting sack of shit."
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            The fact that the west was deeply involved in the coup is well documented even in western media\n
            \n
            - [quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukr…](https://www.quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukraines-2014-revolution-was-due-to-a-CIA-coup) ([archive.ph/BAxYc](https://archive.ph/BAxYc))\n
            - [consortiumnews.com/…/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-i…](https://consortiumnews.com/2022/12/29/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-in-kiev/)\n
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            The foundations of my beliefs are that the west saw itself as the winner of the cold war after USSR dissolved, and decided to renege on all the promises that were made in the 90s. This created increasing tensions with Russia, and eventually led to the war we’re seeing play out in Ukraine. This is a proxy war between NATO and Russia, and it’s following the script that [was outlined by RAND](https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR3063.html).\n
            \n
            The west made a huge miscalculation thinking that it could defeat Russia militarily and economically, and now the whole thing is starting to backfire. NATO is finding that it lacks the industrial base to sustain the conflict. Russia managed to reroute its trade away from the west, which caused immeasurable economic damage to Europe. The world outside the G7 has been increasingly aligning towards Russia and China and away from the west. This proxy war is heralding the end of the unipolar moment that US enjoyed and ushering in multipolarity.\n
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            > I have been using Google for long enough to know that it often shows us what we want to see, not that which is most likely to be correct. :)\n
            \n
            Have you considered that this might be why you still think that Ukraine is winning despite all the evidence to the contrary?\n
            \n
            > Regarding Russian economic data you seem to be flaunting, Russia has made it hard for outside sources to verify any of it.\n
            \n
            Every mainstream western outlet, including the IMF, agrees that Russian economy is growing. No serious economists dispute this.\n
            \n
            > You seem to derive a lot of your opinions from mearsheimer.substack.com source but the sources the author uses to prove your points often come from rt.com which is like, the worst source for this discussion.\n
            \n
            Mearsheimer is just one example, and he is a preeminent political scientist in the US. The reality is that there is propaganda in the west just like there is in Russia, and western media often omits covering things that RT covers. Simply dismissing information based on the source is frankly absurd.\n
            \n
            Incidentally, Mearsheimer gave an entire lecture back in 2014 predicting the events in Ukraine that are currently unfolding, seems to me that he might know what he’s talking about [www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4)\n
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            > I will, however, refrain from posting on lemmy.ml in the future, because I can see that you are a mod of several communities on this instance and your overall conduct in this post has been rather childish and disrespectful. I feel like mods should hold themselves to a higher standard.\n
            \n
            Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
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      > False equivalence.\n
      \n
      It’s not.\n
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      > Because Russia attacked them.\n
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      No, Ukraine has been engaged in atrocities in Donbas since 2014 as even western media reported at the time.\n
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      > It is in fact the opposite. No neutral country stays that way for long when Russia wants it’s territory.\n
      \n
      I see you have problems with reading comprehension.\n
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      > If the West had not helped, there would be no Ukraine either. We would be condemning them to a decade of guerilla warfare and oppression. Emboldened by his victory, Putin would look further west.\n
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      If the west didn’t run a coup to overthrow a democratically elected government then there would’ve been no troubles in Ukraine. Period.\n
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      > Ukrainians now fight Russia, both sides are getting exhausted and it all depends on what help Ukraine gets. Your magical peace treaty would just mean Russia trying this again in 5 years or less.\n
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      That’s complete and utter nonsense, and even western media now admits this.\n
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      Now that’s what actual false equivalence looks like.
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            The actual truth is that it’s NATO that’s been constantly expanding towards Russia. It’s also NATO that’s been invading and destroying countries since the end of USSR. Syria, Libya, and Yugoslavia being some prominent examples.\n
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            > Russian propaganda talking point.\n
            \n
            Ah yes, Russian propaganda point as reported by CNN back in 2014 [twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296](https://twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296)\n
            \n
            There’s even an hour long documentary from France on this [www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs)\n
            \n
            Pretending this just didn’t happen is the height of intellectual dishonesty.\n
            \n
            > Euromaidan was not a coup.\n
            \n
            Yes, it was and there’s overwhelming evidence for it.\n
            \n
            > Cite sources for the first point and military strategy analysts for the second.\n
            \n
            Are you just incapable of using google, I guess that would explain why you believe in nonsense. Here you go. First of all Russian economy is now rapidly growing while the west is going into a recession. This is not a country that’s showing any signs of being exhausted:\n
            \n
            - [newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-op…](https://www.newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-opinion-1861645)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-rosstat-2023-12-13/)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russian-factory-activity-expands-fa…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russian-factory-activity-expands-fastest-pace-seven-years-dec-pmi-2023-12-29/)\n
            \n
            and here’s some recent mainstream media reporting on the state of the war for you to chew on\n
            \n
            - [www.nytimes.com/2024/…/ukraine-russia-war.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/13/world/europe/ukraine-russia-war.html)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defen…](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defence-minister-says-2024-01-10/)\n
            - [lepoint.fr/…/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d…](https://www.lepoint.fr/monde/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d-une-debacle-05-01-2024-2549049_24.php)\n
            - [lemonde.fr/…/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-ex…](https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2023/09/27/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-express-discontent-i-repeatedly-told-them-nato-manuals-didn-t-apply_6140349_4.html)\n
            - [spiegel.de/…/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-…](https://www.spiegel.de/politik/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-deutschen-pannen-panzern-a-cd9421ae-4a96-4d4f-983a-6205a063ae15)\n
            - [archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73](https://archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73)\n
            - [telegraph.co.uk/…/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-…](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/12/27/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-tide-war-ukraine/)\n
            - [www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/…/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/ukraine-war-victory-hopes-dim-intl/index.html)\n
            - [cbc.ca/…/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232](https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232)\n
            \n
            and here’s some analysis from military strategists for you\n
            \n
            - [www.russiamatters.org/…/whats-ahead-war-ukraine](https://www.russiamatters.org/analysis/whats-ahead-war-ukraine)\n
            - […substack.com/…/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukra…](https://mearsheimer.substack.com/p/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukraine)\n
            - [rusi.org/…/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challeng…](https://www.rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challenges-and-innovations)\n
            \n
            Russia will win this war, and the only thing the west has achieved was to help destroy Ukraine by sabotaging negotiations in 2022.
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            Russian economy is growing while the west is going into a recession. [Russian factory activity grows at fastest pace in over six years](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-factory-activity-grows-fastest-pace-over-six-years-sept-pmi-2023-10-02/), meanwhile [while US manufacturing activity shrinks the most in three years.](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-07-03/us-manufacturing-activity-shrinks-by-most-in-three-years). UK now [can’t even make steel from raw materials.](https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/jan/18/tata-steel-to-shut-down-port-talbot-blast-furnaces-3000-jobs-at-risk)\n
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            Yes, people still bleat about a weaker Russia. 🤡
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            The fact that the west was deeply involved in the coup is well documented even in western media\n
            \n
            - [quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukr…](https://www.quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukraines-2014-revolution-was-due-to-a-CIA-coup) ([archive.ph/BAxYc](https://archive.ph/BAxYc))\n
            - [consortiumnews.com/…/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-i…](https://consortiumnews.com/2022/12/29/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-in-kiev/)\n
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            The foundations of my beliefs are that the west saw itself as the winner of the cold war after USSR dissolved, and decided to renege on all the promises that were made in the 90s. This created increasing tensions with Russia, and eventually led to the war we’re seeing play out in Ukraine. This is a proxy war between NATO and Russia, and it’s following the script that [was outlined by RAND](https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR3063.html).\n
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            The west made a huge miscalculation thinking that it could defeat Russia militarily and economically, and now the whole thing is starting to backfire. NATO is finding that it lacks the industrial base to sustain the conflict. Russia managed to reroute its trade away from the west, which caused immeasurable economic damage to Europe. The world outside the G7 has been increasingly aligning towards Russia and China and away from the west. This proxy war is heralding the end of the unipolar moment that US enjoyed and ushering in multipolarity.\n
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            > I have been using Google for long enough to know that it often shows us what we want to see, not that which is most likely to be correct. :)\n
            \n
            Have you considered that this might be why you still think that Ukraine is winning despite all the evidence to the contrary?\n
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            > Regarding Russian economic data you seem to be flaunting, Russia has made it hard for outside sources to verify any of it.\n
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            Every mainstream western outlet, including the IMF, agrees that Russian economy is growing. No serious economists dispute this.\n
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            > You seem to derive a lot of your opinions from mearsheimer.substack.com source but the sources the author uses to prove your points often come from rt.com which is like, the worst source for this discussion.\n
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            Mearsheimer is just one example, and he is a preeminent political scientist in the US. The reality is that there is propaganda in the west just like there is in Russia, and western media often omits covering things that RT covers. Simply dismissing information based on the source is frankly absurd.\n
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            Incidentally, Mearsheimer gave an entire lecture back in 2014 predicting the events in Ukraine that are currently unfolding, seems to me that he might know what he’s talking about [www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4)\n
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            > I will, however, refrain from posting on lemmy.ml in the future, because I can see that you are a mod of several communities on this instance and your overall conduct in this post has been rather childish and disrespectful. I feel like mods should hold themselves to a higher standard.\n
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            Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
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      > False equivalence.\n
      \n
      It’s not.\n
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      > Because Russia attacked them.\n
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      No, Ukraine has been engaged in atrocities in Donbas since 2014 as even western media reported at the time.\n
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      > It is in fact the opposite. No neutral country stays that way for long when Russia wants it’s territory.\n
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      I see you have problems with reading comprehension.\n
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      > If the West had not helped, there would be no Ukraine either. We would be condemning them to a decade of guerilla warfare and oppression. Emboldened by his victory, Putin would look further west.\n
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      If the west didn’t run a coup to overthrow a democratically elected government then there would’ve been no troubles in Ukraine. Period.\n
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      > Ukrainians now fight Russia, both sides are getting exhausted and it all depends on what help Ukraine gets. Your magical peace treaty would just mean Russia trying this again in 5 years or less.\n
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      That’s complete and utter nonsense, and even western media now admits this.\n
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      > You could have used the same arguments to make peace with the Nazis in 1941 and the world would only be worse for it.\n
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      Now that’s what actual false equivalence looks like.
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          +body: "After two years, it’s pretty clear that the west is not capable of doing anything of the sort. All the west managed to achieve was to ensure that hundreds of thousands of people died, and that Ukraine lost large parts of its territory in the process. We now have admissions from Ukrainian negotiators that a peace deal was close to being reached last March before the west sabotaged it."
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            The actual truth is that it’s NATO that’s been constantly expanding towards Russia. It’s also NATO that’s been invading and destroying countries since the end of USSR. Syria, Libya, and Yugoslavia being some prominent examples.\n
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            Meanwhile, Russia tried to resolve this situation diplomatically since 2008 with Minsk agreements that western leaders now openly admit were a delaying tactic by the west.\n
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          +body: "NATO is an aggressive alliance that has invaded and destroyed numerous countries. The fact that you keep pretending that it’s a defensive alliance just shows how utterly dishonest you are."
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            > Russian propaganda talking point.\n
            \n
            Ah yes, Russian propaganda point as reported by CNN back in 2014 [twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296](https://twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296)\n
            \n
            There’s even an hour long documentary from France on this [www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs)\n
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            Pretending this just didn’t happen is the height of intellectual dishonesty.\n
            \n
            > Euromaidan was not a coup.\n
            \n
            Yes, it was and there’s overwhelming evidence for it.\n
            \n
            > Cite sources for the first point and military strategy analysts for the second.\n
            \n
            Are you just incapable of using google, I guess that would explain why you believe in nonsense. Here you go. First of all Russian economy is now rapidly growing while the west is going into a recession. This is not a country that’s showing any signs of being exhausted:\n
            \n
            - [newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-op…](https://www.newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-opinion-1861645)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-rosstat-2023-12-13/)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russian-factory-activity-expands-fa…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russian-factory-activity-expands-fastest-pace-seven-years-dec-pmi-2023-12-29/)\n
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            and here’s some recent mainstream media reporting on the state of the war for you to chew on\n
            \n
            - [www.nytimes.com/2024/…/ukraine-russia-war.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/13/world/europe/ukraine-russia-war.html)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defen…](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defence-minister-says-2024-01-10/)\n
            - [lepoint.fr/…/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d…](https://www.lepoint.fr/monde/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d-une-debacle-05-01-2024-2549049_24.php)\n
            - [lemonde.fr/…/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-ex…](https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2023/09/27/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-express-discontent-i-repeatedly-told-them-nato-manuals-didn-t-apply_6140349_4.html)\n
            - [spiegel.de/…/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-…](https://www.spiegel.de/politik/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-deutschen-pannen-panzern-a-cd9421ae-4a96-4d4f-983a-6205a063ae15)\n
            - [archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73](https://archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73)\n
            - [telegraph.co.uk/…/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-…](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/12/27/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-tide-war-ukraine/)\n
            - [www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/…/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/ukraine-war-victory-hopes-dim-intl/index.html)\n
            - [cbc.ca/…/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232](https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232)\n
            \n
            and here’s some analysis from military strategists for you\n
            \n
            - [www.russiamatters.org/…/whats-ahead-war-ukraine](https://www.russiamatters.org/analysis/whats-ahead-war-ukraine)\n
            - […substack.com/…/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukra…](https://mearsheimer.substack.com/p/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukraine)\n
            - [rusi.org/…/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challeng…](https://www.rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challenges-and-innovations)\n
            \n
            Russia will win this war, and the only thing the west has achieved was to help destroy Ukraine by sabotaging negotiations in 2022.
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          +body: "Share a source for NATO invading Yugoslavia, Libya, Syria, and Afghanistan, is that what you’re asking there little buddy?"
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            Russian economy is growing while the west is going into a recession. [Russian factory activity grows at fastest pace in over six years](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-factory-activity-grows-fastest-pace-over-six-years-sept-pmi-2023-10-02/), meanwhile [while US manufacturing activity shrinks the most in three years.](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-07-03/us-manufacturing-activity-shrinks-by-most-in-three-years). UK now [can’t even make steel from raw materials.](https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/jan/18/tata-steel-to-shut-down-port-talbot-blast-furnaces-3000-jobs-at-risk)\n
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            Yes, people still bleat about a weaker Russia. 🤡
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          +body: "Here’s an idea go sign up as a volunteer in Ukraine and fight yourself instead of cheering on for other people to die for you, you disgusting sack of shit."
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            The fact that the west was deeply involved in the coup is well documented even in western media\n
            \n
            - [quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukr…](https://www.quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukraines-2014-revolution-was-due-to-a-CIA-coup) ([archive.ph/BAxYc](https://archive.ph/BAxYc))\n
            - [consortiumnews.com/…/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-i…](https://consortiumnews.com/2022/12/29/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-in-kiev/)\n
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            The foundations of my beliefs are that the west saw itself as the winner of the cold war after USSR dissolved, and decided to renege on all the promises that were made in the 90s. This created increasing tensions with Russia, and eventually led to the war we’re seeing play out in Ukraine. This is a proxy war between NATO and Russia, and it’s following the script that [was outlined by RAND](https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR3063.html).\n
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            The west made a huge miscalculation thinking that it could defeat Russia militarily and economically, and now the whole thing is starting to backfire. NATO is finding that it lacks the industrial base to sustain the conflict. Russia managed to reroute its trade away from the west, which caused immeasurable economic damage to Europe. The world outside the G7 has been increasingly aligning towards Russia and China and away from the west. This proxy war is heralding the end of the unipolar moment that US enjoyed and ushering in multipolarity.\n
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            > I have been using Google for long enough to know that it often shows us what we want to see, not that which is most likely to be correct. :)\n
            \n
            Have you considered that this might be why you still think that Ukraine is winning despite all the evidence to the contrary?\n
            \n
            > Regarding Russian economic data you seem to be flaunting, Russia has made it hard for outside sources to verify any of it.\n
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            Every mainstream western outlet, including the IMF, agrees that Russian economy is growing. No serious economists dispute this.\n
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            > You seem to derive a lot of your opinions from mearsheimer.substack.com source but the sources the author uses to prove your points often come from rt.com which is like, the worst source for this discussion.\n
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            Mearsheimer is just one example, and he is a preeminent political scientist in the US. The reality is that there is propaganda in the west just like there is in Russia, and western media often omits covering things that RT covers. Simply dismissing information based on the source is frankly absurd.\n
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            Incidentally, Mearsheimer gave an entire lecture back in 2014 predicting the events in Ukraine that are currently unfolding, seems to me that he might know what he’s talking about [www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4)\n
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            > I will, however, refrain from posting on lemmy.ml in the future, because I can see that you are a mod of several communities on this instance and your overall conduct in this post has been rather childish and disrespectful. I feel like mods should hold themselves to a higher standard.\n
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            Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
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      > False equivalence.\n
      \n
      It’s not.\n
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      > Because Russia attacked them.\n
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      No, Ukraine has been engaged in atrocities in Donbas since 2014 as even western media reported at the time.\n
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      > It is in fact the opposite. No neutral country stays that way for long when Russia wants it’s territory.\n
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      I see you have problems with reading comprehension.\n
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      > If the West had not helped, there would be no Ukraine either. We would be condemning them to a decade of guerilla warfare and oppression. Emboldened by his victory, Putin would look further west.\n
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      If the west didn’t run a coup to overthrow a democratically elected government then there would’ve been no troubles in Ukraine. Period.\n
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      > Ukrainians now fight Russia, both sides are getting exhausted and it all depends on what help Ukraine gets. Your magical peace treaty would just mean Russia trying this again in 5 years or less.\n
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      That’s complete and utter nonsense, and even western media now admits this.\n
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          +body: "After two years, it’s pretty clear that the west is not capable of doing anything of the sort. All the west managed to achieve was to ensure that hundreds of thousands of people died, and that Ukraine lost large parts of its territory in the process. We now have admissions from Ukrainian negotiators that a peace deal was close to being reached last March before the west sabotaged it."
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            The actual truth is that it’s NATO that’s been constantly expanding towards Russia. It’s also NATO that’s been invading and destroying countries since the end of USSR. Syria, Libya, and Yugoslavia being some prominent examples.\n
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            Meanwhile, Russia tried to resolve this situation diplomatically since 2008 with Minsk agreements that western leaders now openly admit were a delaying tactic by the west.\n
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            Finally, section IX of Ukraine’s 1990 Declaration of State Sovereignty states the following:\n
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            Now, thanks to western “help”, Ukraine will lose far more territory than it would have if the deal was done last year, and it may even cease to exist as a state. I can’t wait for you to explain how this actually helps people of Ukraine.
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          +body: "NATO is an aggressive alliance that has invaded and destroyed numerous countries. The fact that you keep pretending that it’s a defensive alliance just shows how utterly dishonest you are."
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            > Russian propaganda talking point.\n
            \n
            Ah yes, Russian propaganda point as reported by CNN back in 2014 [twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296](https://twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296)\n
            \n
            There’s even an hour long documentary from France on this [www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs)\n
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            Pretending this just didn’t happen is the height of intellectual dishonesty.\n
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            > Euromaidan was not a coup.\n
            \n
            Yes, it was and there’s overwhelming evidence for it.\n
            \n
            > Cite sources for the first point and military strategy analysts for the second.\n
            \n
            Are you just incapable of using google, I guess that would explain why you believe in nonsense. Here you go. First of all Russian economy is now rapidly growing while the west is going into a recession. This is not a country that’s showing any signs of being exhausted:\n
            \n
            - [newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-op…](https://www.newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-opinion-1861645)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-rosstat-2023-12-13/)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russian-factory-activity-expands-fa…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russian-factory-activity-expands-fastest-pace-seven-years-dec-pmi-2023-12-29/)\n
            \n
            and here’s some recent mainstream media reporting on the state of the war for you to chew on\n
            \n
            - [www.nytimes.com/2024/…/ukraine-russia-war.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/13/world/europe/ukraine-russia-war.html)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defen…](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defence-minister-says-2024-01-10/)\n
            - [lepoint.fr/…/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d…](https://www.lepoint.fr/monde/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d-une-debacle-05-01-2024-2549049_24.php)\n
            - [lemonde.fr/…/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-ex…](https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2023/09/27/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-express-discontent-i-repeatedly-told-them-nato-manuals-didn-t-apply_6140349_4.html)\n
            - [spiegel.de/…/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-…](https://www.spiegel.de/politik/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-deutschen-pannen-panzern-a-cd9421ae-4a96-4d4f-983a-6205a063ae15)\n
            - [archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73](https://archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73)\n
            - [telegraph.co.uk/…/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-…](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/12/27/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-tide-war-ukraine/)\n
            - [www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/…/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/ukraine-war-victory-hopes-dim-intl/index.html)\n
            - [cbc.ca/…/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232](https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232)\n
            \n
            and here’s some analysis from military strategists for you\n
            \n
            - [www.russiamatters.org/…/whats-ahead-war-ukraine](https://www.russiamatters.org/analysis/whats-ahead-war-ukraine)\n
            - […substack.com/…/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukra…](https://mearsheimer.substack.com/p/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukraine)\n
            - [rusi.org/…/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challeng…](https://www.rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challenges-and-innovations)\n
            \n
            Russia will win this war, and the only thing the west has achieved was to help destroy Ukraine by sabotaging negotiations in 2022.
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          +body: "Share a source for NATO invading Yugoslavia, Libya, Syria, and Afghanistan, is that what you’re asking there little buddy?"
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          +body: "No, I’m saying that anybody can type in words NATO and Yugoslavia or NATO and Libya into Google and see that you’re a liar."
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          +body: "Do you perhaps make bad faith arguments when you have nothing of value to add to the discussion?"
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            Russian economy is growing while the west is going into a recession. [Russian factory activity grows at fastest pace in over six years](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-factory-activity-grows-fastest-pace-over-six-years-sept-pmi-2023-10-02/), meanwhile [while US manufacturing activity shrinks the most in three years.](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-07-03/us-manufacturing-activity-shrinks-by-most-in-three-years). UK now [can’t even make steel from raw materials.](https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/jan/18/tata-steel-to-shut-down-port-talbot-blast-furnaces-3000-jobs-at-risk)\n
            \n
            Yes, people still bleat about a weaker Russia. 🤡
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          +body: "Here’s an idea go sign up as a volunteer in Ukraine and fight yourself instead of cheering on for other people to die for you, you disgusting sack of shit."
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          +body: "I see somebody is projecting"
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            The fact that the west was deeply involved in the coup is well documented even in western media\n
            \n
            - [quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukr…](https://www.quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukraines-2014-revolution-was-due-to-a-CIA-coup) ([archive.ph/BAxYc](https://archive.ph/BAxYc))\n
            - [consortiumnews.com/…/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-i…](https://consortiumnews.com/2022/12/29/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-in-kiev/)\n
            \n
            The foundations of my beliefs are that the west saw itself as the winner of the cold war after USSR dissolved, and decided to renege on all the promises that were made in the 90s. This created increasing tensions with Russia, and eventually led to the war we’re seeing play out in Ukraine. This is a proxy war between NATO and Russia, and it’s following the script that [was outlined by RAND](https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR3063.html).\n
            \n
            The west made a huge miscalculation thinking that it could defeat Russia militarily and economically, and now the whole thing is starting to backfire. NATO is finding that it lacks the industrial base to sustain the conflict. Russia managed to reroute its trade away from the west, which caused immeasurable economic damage to Europe. The world outside the G7 has been increasingly aligning towards Russia and China and away from the west. This proxy war is heralding the end of the unipolar moment that US enjoyed and ushering in multipolarity.\n
            \n
            > I have been using Google for long enough to know that it often shows us what we want to see, not that which is most likely to be correct. :)\n
            \n
            Have you considered that this might be why you still think that Ukraine is winning despite all the evidence to the contrary?\n
            \n
            > Regarding Russian economic data you seem to be flaunting, Russia has made it hard for outside sources to verify any of it.\n
            \n
            Every mainstream western outlet, including the IMF, agrees that Russian economy is growing. No serious economists dispute this.\n
            \n
            > You seem to derive a lot of your opinions from mearsheimer.substack.com source but the sources the author uses to prove your points often come from rt.com which is like, the worst source for this discussion.\n
            \n
            Mearsheimer is just one example, and he is a preeminent political scientist in the US. The reality is that there is propaganda in the west just like there is in Russia, and western media often omits covering things that RT covers. Simply dismissing information based on the source is frankly absurd.\n
            \n
            Incidentally, Mearsheimer gave an entire lecture back in 2014 predicting the events in Ukraine that are currently unfolding, seems to me that he might know what he’s talking about [www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4)\n
            \n
            > I will, however, refrain from posting on lemmy.ml in the future, because I can see that you are a mod of several communities on this instance and your overall conduct in this post has been rather childish and disrespectful. I feel like mods should hold themselves to a higher standard.\n
            \n
            Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
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      > False equivalence.\n
      \n
      It’s not.\n
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      > Because Russia attacked them.\n
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      No, Ukraine has been engaged in atrocities in Donbas since 2014 as even western media reported at the time.\n
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      > It is in fact the opposite. No neutral country stays that way for long when Russia wants it’s territory.\n
      \n
      I see you have problems with reading comprehension.\n
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      If the west didn’t run a coup to overthrow a democratically elected government then there would’ve been no troubles in Ukraine. Period.\n
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      > Ukrainians now fight Russia, both sides are getting exhausted and it all depends on what help Ukraine gets. Your magical peace treaty would just mean Russia trying this again in 5 years or less.\n
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      That’s complete and utter nonsense, and even western media now admits this.\n
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            [The Ukrainian SSR solemnly declares its intention of becoming a permanently neutral state that does not participate in military blocs and adheres to three nuclear free principles: to accept, to produce and to purchase no nuclear weapons.](https://web.archive.org/web/20130615031823/https://static.rada.gov.ua/site/postanova_eng/Declaration_of_State_Sovereignty_of_Ukraine_rev1.htm)\n
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            The whole legal basis for the existence of state of Ukraine is predicated on Ukraine staying neutral and not joining military blocs. Ukraine broke the very basis of this agreement when it tried to join NATO.\n
            \n
            Now, thanks to western “help”, Ukraine will lose far more territory than it would have if the deal was done last year, and it may even cease to exist as a state. I can’t wait for you to explain how this actually helps people of Ukraine.
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          +body: "NATO is an aggressive alliance that has invaded and destroyed numerous countries. The fact that you keep pretending that it’s a defensive alliance just shows how utterly dishonest you are."
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            > Russian propaganda talking point.\n
            \n
            Ah yes, Russian propaganda point as reported by CNN back in 2014 [twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296](https://twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296)\n
            \n
            There’s even an hour long documentary from France on this [www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs)\n
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            Pretending this just didn’t happen is the height of intellectual dishonesty.\n
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            > Euromaidan was not a coup.\n
            \n
            Yes, it was and there’s overwhelming evidence for it.\n
            \n
            > Cite sources for the first point and military strategy analysts for the second.\n
            \n
            Are you just incapable of using google, I guess that would explain why you believe in nonsense. Here you go. First of all Russian economy is now rapidly growing while the west is going into a recession. This is not a country that’s showing any signs of being exhausted:\n
            \n
            - [newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-op…](https://www.newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-opinion-1861645)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-rosstat-2023-12-13/)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russian-factory-activity-expands-fa…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russian-factory-activity-expands-fastest-pace-seven-years-dec-pmi-2023-12-29/)\n
            \n
            and here’s some recent mainstream media reporting on the state of the war for you to chew on\n
            \n
            - [www.nytimes.com/2024/…/ukraine-russia-war.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/13/world/europe/ukraine-russia-war.html)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defen…](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defence-minister-says-2024-01-10/)\n
            - [lepoint.fr/…/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d…](https://www.lepoint.fr/monde/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d-une-debacle-05-01-2024-2549049_24.php)\n
            - [lemonde.fr/…/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-ex…](https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2023/09/27/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-express-discontent-i-repeatedly-told-them-nato-manuals-didn-t-apply_6140349_4.html)\n
            - [spiegel.de/…/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-…](https://www.spiegel.de/politik/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-deutschen-pannen-panzern-a-cd9421ae-4a96-4d4f-983a-6205a063ae15)\n
            - [archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73](https://archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73)\n
            - [telegraph.co.uk/…/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-…](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/12/27/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-tide-war-ukraine/)\n
            - [www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/…/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/ukraine-war-victory-hopes-dim-intl/index.html)\n
            - [cbc.ca/…/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232](https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232)\n
            \n
            and here’s some analysis from military strategists for you\n
            \n
            - [www.russiamatters.org/…/whats-ahead-war-ukraine](https://www.russiamatters.org/analysis/whats-ahead-war-ukraine)\n
            - […substack.com/…/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukra…](https://mearsheimer.substack.com/p/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukraine)\n
            - [rusi.org/…/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challeng…](https://www.rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challenges-and-innovations)\n
            \n
            Russia will win this war, and the only thing the west has achieved was to help destroy Ukraine by sabotaging negotiations in 2022.
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          +body: "Share a source for NATO invading Yugoslavia, Libya, Syria, and Afghanistan, is that what you’re asking there little buddy?"
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          +body: "🤡"
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            Russian economy is growing while the west is going into a recession. [Russian factory activity grows at fastest pace in over six years](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-factory-activity-grows-fastest-pace-over-six-years-sept-pmi-2023-10-02/), meanwhile [while US manufacturing activity shrinks the most in three years.](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-07-03/us-manufacturing-activity-shrinks-by-most-in-three-years). UK now [can’t even make steel from raw materials.](https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/jan/18/tata-steel-to-shut-down-port-talbot-blast-furnaces-3000-jobs-at-risk)\n
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            Yes, people still bleat about a weaker Russia. 🤡
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            The fact that the west was deeply involved in the coup is well documented even in western media\n
            \n
            - [quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukr…](https://www.quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukraines-2014-revolution-was-due-to-a-CIA-coup) ([archive.ph/BAxYc](https://archive.ph/BAxYc))\n
            - [consortiumnews.com/…/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-i…](https://consortiumnews.com/2022/12/29/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-in-kiev/)\n
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            The foundations of my beliefs are that the west saw itself as the winner of the cold war after USSR dissolved, and decided to renege on all the promises that were made in the 90s. This created increasing tensions with Russia, and eventually led to the war we’re seeing play out in Ukraine. This is a proxy war between NATO and Russia, and it’s following the script that [was outlined by RAND](https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR3063.html).\n
            \n
            The west made a huge miscalculation thinking that it could defeat Russia militarily and economically, and now the whole thing is starting to backfire. NATO is finding that it lacks the industrial base to sustain the conflict. Russia managed to reroute its trade away from the west, which caused immeasurable economic damage to Europe. The world outside the G7 has been increasingly aligning towards Russia and China and away from the west. This proxy war is heralding the end of the unipolar moment that US enjoyed and ushering in multipolarity.\n
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            > I have been using Google for long enough to know that it often shows us what we want to see, not that which is most likely to be correct. :)\n
            \n
            Have you considered that this might be why you still think that Ukraine is winning despite all the evidence to the contrary?\n
            \n
            > Regarding Russian economic data you seem to be flaunting, Russia has made it hard for outside sources to verify any of it.\n
            \n
            Every mainstream western outlet, including the IMF, agrees that Russian economy is growing. No serious economists dispute this.\n
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            > You seem to derive a lot of your opinions from mearsheimer.substack.com source but the sources the author uses to prove your points often come from rt.com which is like, the worst source for this discussion.\n
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            Mearsheimer is just one example, and he is a preeminent political scientist in the US. The reality is that there is propaganda in the west just like there is in Russia, and western media often omits covering things that RT covers. Simply dismissing information based on the source is frankly absurd.\n
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            Incidentally, Mearsheimer gave an entire lecture back in 2014 predicting the events in Ukraine that are currently unfolding, seems to me that he might know what he’s talking about [www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4)\n
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            > I will, however, refrain from posting on lemmy.ml in the future, because I can see that you are a mod of several communities on this instance and your overall conduct in this post has been rather childish and disrespectful. I feel like mods should hold themselves to a higher standard.\n
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            Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
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      > False equivalence.\n
      \n
      It’s not.\n
      \n
      > Because Russia attacked them.\n
      \n
      No, Ukraine has been engaged in atrocities in Donbas since 2014 as even western media reported at the time.\n
      \n
      > It is in fact the opposite. No neutral country stays that way for long when Russia wants it’s territory.\n
      \n
      I see you have problems with reading comprehension.\n
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      > If the West had not helped, there would be no Ukraine either. We would be condemning them to a decade of guerilla warfare and oppression. Emboldened by his victory, Putin would look further west.\n
      \n
      If the west didn’t run a coup to overthrow a democratically elected government then there would’ve been no troubles in Ukraine. Period.\n
      \n
      > Ukrainians now fight Russia, both sides are getting exhausted and it all depends on what help Ukraine gets. Your magical peace treaty would just mean Russia trying this again in 5 years or less.\n
      \n
      That’s complete and utter nonsense, and even western media now admits this.\n
      \n
      > You could have used the same arguments to make peace with the Nazis in 1941 and the world would only be worse for it.\n
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      Now that’s what actual false equivalence looks like.
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            The actual truth is that it’s NATO that’s been constantly expanding towards Russia. It’s also NATO that’s been invading and destroying countries since the end of USSR. Syria, Libya, and Yugoslavia being some prominent examples.\n
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            Meanwhile, Russia tried to resolve this situation diplomatically since 2008 with Minsk agreements that western leaders now openly admit were a delaying tactic by the west.\n
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            Now, thanks to western “help”, Ukraine will lose far more territory than it would have if the deal was done last year, and it may even cease to exist as a state. I can’t wait for you to explain how this actually helps people of Ukraine.
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          +body: "NATO is an aggressive alliance that has invaded and destroyed numerous countries. The fact that you keep pretending that it’s a defensive alliance just shows how utterly dishonest you are."
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            > False equivalence.\n
            \n
            It’s not.\n
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            > Because Russia attacked them.\n
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            No, Ukraine has been engaged in atrocities in Donbas since 2014 as even western media reported at the time.\n
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            > It is in fact the opposite. No neutral country stays that way for long when Russia wants it’s territory.\n
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            I see you have problems with reading comprehension.\n
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            If the west didn’t run a coup to overthrow a democratically elected government then there would’ve been no troubles in Ukraine. Period.\n
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            > Ukrainians now fight Russia, both sides are getting exhausted and it all depends on what help Ukraine gets. Your magical peace treaty would just mean Russia trying this again in 5 years or less.\n
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            That’s complete and utter nonsense, and even western media now admits this.\n
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            > You could have used the same arguments to make peace with the Nazis in 1941 and the world would only be worse for it.\n
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            Now that’s what actual false equivalence looks like.
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          +body: "Share a source for NATO invading Yugoslavia, Libya, Syria, and Afghanistan, is that what you’re asking there little buddy?"
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          +body: "No, I’m saying that anybody can type in words NATO and Yugoslavia or NATO and Libya into Google and see that you’re a liar."
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            Russian economy is growing while the west is going into a recession. [Russian factory activity grows at fastest pace in over six years](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-factory-activity-grows-fastest-pace-over-six-years-sept-pmi-2023-10-02/), meanwhile [while US manufacturing activity shrinks the most in three years.](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-07-03/us-manufacturing-activity-shrinks-by-most-in-three-years). UK now [can’t even make steel from raw materials.](https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/jan/18/tata-steel-to-shut-down-port-talbot-blast-furnaces-3000-jobs-at-risk)\n
            \n
            Yes, people still bleat about a weaker Russia. 🤡
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          +body: "Here’s an idea go sign up as a volunteer in Ukraine and fight yourself instead of cheering on for other people to die for you, you disgusting sack of shit."
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          +body: "I see somebody is projecting"
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            The fact that the west was deeply involved in the coup is well documented even in western media\n
            \n
            - [quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukr…](https://www.quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukraines-2014-revolution-was-due-to-a-CIA-coup) ([archive.ph/BAxYc](https://archive.ph/BAxYc))\n
            - [consortiumnews.com/…/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-i…](https://consortiumnews.com/2022/12/29/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-in-kiev/)\n
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            The foundations of my beliefs are that the west saw itself as the winner of the cold war after USSR dissolved, and decided to renege on all the promises that were made in the 90s. This created increasing tensions with Russia, and eventually led to the war we’re seeing play out in Ukraine. This is a proxy war between NATO and Russia, and it’s following the script that [was outlined by RAND](https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR3063.html).\n
            \n
            The west made a huge miscalculation thinking that it could defeat Russia militarily and economically, and now the whole thing is starting to backfire. NATO is finding that it lacks the industrial base to sustain the conflict. Russia managed to reroute its trade away from the west, which caused immeasurable economic damage to Europe. The world outside the G7 has been increasingly aligning towards Russia and China and away from the west. This proxy war is heralding the end of the unipolar moment that US enjoyed and ushering in multipolarity.\n
            \n
            > I have been using Google for long enough to know that it often shows us what we want to see, not that which is most likely to be correct. :)\n
            \n
            Have you considered that this might be why you still think that Ukraine is winning despite all the evidence to the contrary?\n
            \n
            > Regarding Russian economic data you seem to be flaunting, Russia has made it hard for outside sources to verify any of it.\n
            \n
            Every mainstream western outlet, including the IMF, agrees that Russian economy is growing. No serious economists dispute this.\n
            \n
            > You seem to derive a lot of your opinions from mearsheimer.substack.com source but the sources the author uses to prove your points often come from rt.com which is like, the worst source for this discussion.\n
            \n
            Mearsheimer is just one example, and he is a preeminent political scientist in the US. The reality is that there is propaganda in the west just like there is in Russia, and western media often omits covering things that RT covers. Simply dismissing information based on the source is frankly absurd.\n
            \n
            Incidentally, Mearsheimer gave an entire lecture back in 2014 predicting the events in Ukraine that are currently unfolding, seems to me that he might know what he’s talking about [www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4)\n
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            > I will, however, refrain from posting on lemmy.ml in the future, because I can see that you are a mod of several communities on this instance and your overall conduct in this post has been rather childish and disrespectful. I feel like mods should hold themselves to a higher standard.\n
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      > Russian propaganda talking point.\n
      \n
      Ah yes, Russian propaganda point as reported by CNN back in 2014 [twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296](https://twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296)\n
      \n
      There’s even an hour long documentary from France on this [www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs)\n
      \n
      Pretending this just didn’t happen is the height of intellectual dishonesty.\n
      \n
      > Euromaidan was not a coup.\n
      \n
      Yes, it was and there’s overwhelming evidence for it.\n
      \n
      > Cite sources for the first point and military strategy analysts for the second.\n
      \n
      Are you just incapable of using google, I guess that would explain why you believe in nonsense. Here you go. First of all Russian economy is now rapidly growing while the west is going into a recession. This is not a country that’s showing any signs of being exhausted:\n
      \n
      - [newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-op…](https://www.newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-opinion-1861645)\n
      - [reuters.com/…/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-rosstat-2023-12-13/)\n
      - [reuters.com/…/russian-factory-activity-expands-fa…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russian-factory-activity-expands-fastest-pace-seven-years-dec-pmi-2023-12-29/)\n
      \n
      and here’s some recent mainstream media reporting on the state of the war for you to chew on\n
      \n
      - [www.nytimes.com/2024/…/ukraine-russia-war.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/13/world/europe/ukraine-russia-war.html)\n
      - [reuters.com/…/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defen…](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defence-minister-says-2024-01-10/)\n
      - [lepoint.fr/…/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d…](https://www.lepoint.fr/monde/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d-une-debacle-05-01-2024-2549049_24.php)\n
      - [lemonde.fr/…/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-ex…](https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2023/09/27/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-express-discontent-i-repeatedly-told-them-nato-manuals-didn-t-apply_6140349_4.html)\n
      - [spiegel.de/…/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-…](https://www.spiegel.de/politik/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-deutschen-pannen-panzern-a-cd9421ae-4a96-4d4f-983a-6205a063ae15)\n
      - [archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73](https://archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73)\n
      - [telegraph.co.uk/…/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-…](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/12/27/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-tide-war-ukraine/)\n
      - [www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/…/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/ukraine-war-victory-hopes-dim-intl/index.html)\n
      - [cbc.ca/…/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232](https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232)\n
      \n
      and here’s some analysis from military strategists for you\n
      \n
      - [www.russiamatters.org/…/whats-ahead-war-ukraine](https://www.russiamatters.org/analysis/whats-ahead-war-ukraine)\n
      - […substack.com/…/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukra…](https://mearsheimer.substack.com/p/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukraine)\n
      - [rusi.org/…/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challeng…](https://www.rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challenges-and-innovations)\n
      \n
      Russia will win this war, and the only thing the west has achieved was to help destroy Ukraine by sabotaging negotiations in 2022.
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          +body: "After two years, it’s pretty clear that the west is not capable of doing anything of the sort. All the west managed to achieve was to ensure that hundreds of thousands of people died, and that Ukraine lost large parts of its territory in the process. We now have admissions from Ukrainian negotiators that a peace deal was close to being reached last March before the west sabotaged it."
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            The actual truth is that it’s NATO that’s been constantly expanding towards Russia. It’s also NATO that’s been invading and destroying countries since the end of USSR. Syria, Libya, and Yugoslavia being some prominent examples.\n
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            Meanwhile, Russia tried to resolve this situation diplomatically since 2008 with Minsk agreements that western leaders now openly admit were a delaying tactic by the west.\n
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            Finally, section IX of Ukraine’s 1990 Declaration of State Sovereignty states the following:\n
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            [The Ukrainian SSR solemnly declares its intention of becoming a permanently neutral state that does not participate in military blocs and adheres to three nuclear free principles: to accept, to produce and to purchase no nuclear weapons.](https://web.archive.org/web/20130615031823/https://static.rada.gov.ua/site/postanova_eng/Declaration_of_State_Sovereignty_of_Ukraine_rev1.htm)\n
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            The whole legal basis for the existence of state of Ukraine is predicated on Ukraine staying neutral and not joining military blocs. Ukraine broke the very basis of this agreement when it tried to join NATO.\n
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            Now, thanks to western “help”, Ukraine will lose far more territory than it would have if the deal was done last year, and it may even cease to exist as a state. I can’t wait for you to explain how this actually helps people of Ukraine.
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          +body: "NATO is an aggressive alliance that has invaded and destroyed numerous countries. The fact that you keep pretending that it’s a defensive alliance just shows how utterly dishonest you are."
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          +body: """
            > False equivalence.\n
            \n
            It’s not.\n
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            > Because Russia attacked them.\n
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            No, Ukraine has been engaged in atrocities in Donbas since 2014 as even western media reported at the time.\n
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            > It is in fact the opposite. No neutral country stays that way for long when Russia wants it’s territory.\n
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            I see you have problems with reading comprehension.\n
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            > If the West had not helped, there would be no Ukraine either. We would be condemning them to a decade of guerilla warfare and oppression. Emboldened by his victory, Putin would look further west.\n
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            If the west didn’t run a coup to overthrow a democratically elected government then there would’ve been no troubles in Ukraine. Period.\n
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            > Ukrainians now fight Russia, both sides are getting exhausted and it all depends on what help Ukraine gets. Your magical peace treaty would just mean Russia trying this again in 5 years or less.\n
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            That’s complete and utter nonsense, and even western media now admits this.\n
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            > You could have used the same arguments to make peace with the Nazis in 1941 and the world would only be worse for it.\n
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            Now that’s what actual false equivalence looks like.
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          +body: "Share a source for NATO invading Yugoslavia, Libya, Syria, and Afghanistan, is that what you’re asking there little buddy?"
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          +body: "No, I’m saying that anybody can type in words NATO and Yugoslavia or NATO and Libya into Google and see that you’re a liar."
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            Russian economy is growing while the west is going into a recession. [Russian factory activity grows at fastest pace in over six years](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-factory-activity-grows-fastest-pace-over-six-years-sept-pmi-2023-10-02/), meanwhile [while US manufacturing activity shrinks the most in three years.](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-07-03/us-manufacturing-activity-shrinks-by-most-in-three-years). UK now [can’t even make steel from raw materials.](https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/jan/18/tata-steel-to-shut-down-port-talbot-blast-furnaces-3000-jobs-at-risk)\n
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            Yes, people still bleat about a weaker Russia. 🤡
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            The fact that the west was deeply involved in the coup is well documented even in western media\n
            \n
            - [quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukr…](https://www.quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukraines-2014-revolution-was-due-to-a-CIA-coup) ([archive.ph/BAxYc](https://archive.ph/BAxYc))\n
            - [consortiumnews.com/…/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-i…](https://consortiumnews.com/2022/12/29/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-in-kiev/)\n
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            The foundations of my beliefs are that the west saw itself as the winner of the cold war after USSR dissolved, and decided to renege on all the promises that were made in the 90s. This created increasing tensions with Russia, and eventually led to the war we’re seeing play out in Ukraine. This is a proxy war between NATO and Russia, and it’s following the script that [was outlined by RAND](https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR3063.html).\n
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            The west made a huge miscalculation thinking that it could defeat Russia militarily and economically, and now the whole thing is starting to backfire. NATO is finding that it lacks the industrial base to sustain the conflict. Russia managed to reroute its trade away from the west, which caused immeasurable economic damage to Europe. The world outside the G7 has been increasingly aligning towards Russia and China and away from the west. This proxy war is heralding the end of the unipolar moment that US enjoyed and ushering in multipolarity.\n
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            > I have been using Google for long enough to know that it often shows us what we want to see, not that which is most likely to be correct. :)\n
            \n
            Have you considered that this might be why you still think that Ukraine is winning despite all the evidence to the contrary?\n
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            > Regarding Russian economic data you seem to be flaunting, Russia has made it hard for outside sources to verify any of it.\n
            \n
            Every mainstream western outlet, including the IMF, agrees that Russian economy is growing. No serious economists dispute this.\n
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            > You seem to derive a lot of your opinions from mearsheimer.substack.com source but the sources the author uses to prove your points often come from rt.com which is like, the worst source for this discussion.\n
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            Mearsheimer is just one example, and he is a preeminent political scientist in the US. The reality is that there is propaganda in the west just like there is in Russia, and western media often omits covering things that RT covers. Simply dismissing information based on the source is frankly absurd.\n
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            Incidentally, Mearsheimer gave an entire lecture back in 2014 predicting the events in Ukraine that are currently unfolding, seems to me that he might know what he’s talking about [www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4)\n
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            > I will, however, refrain from posting on lemmy.ml in the future, because I can see that you are a mod of several communities on this instance and your overall conduct in this post has been rather childish and disrespectful. I feel like mods should hold themselves to a higher standard.\n
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            Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
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      > Russian propaganda talking point.\n
      \n
      Ah yes, Russian propaganda point as reported by CNN back in 2014 [twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296](https://twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296)\n
      \n
      There’s even an hour long documentary from France on this [www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs)\n
      \n
      Pretending this just didn’t happen is the height of intellectual dishonesty.\n
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      > Euromaidan was not a coup.\n
      \n
      Yes, it was and there’s overwhelming evidence for it.\n
      \n
      > Cite sources for the first point and military strategy analysts for the second.\n
      \n
      Are you just incapable of using google, I guess that would explain why you believe in nonsense. Here you go. First of all Russian economy is now rapidly growing while the west is going into a recession. This is not a country that’s showing any signs of being exhausted:\n
      \n
      - [newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-op…](https://www.newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-opinion-1861645)\n
      - [reuters.com/…/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-rosstat-2023-12-13/)\n
      - [reuters.com/…/russian-factory-activity-expands-fa…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russian-factory-activity-expands-fastest-pace-seven-years-dec-pmi-2023-12-29/)\n
      \n
      and here’s some recent mainstream media reporting on the state of the war for you to chew on\n
      \n
      - [www.nytimes.com/2024/…/ukraine-russia-war.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/13/world/europe/ukraine-russia-war.html)\n
      - [reuters.com/…/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defen…](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defence-minister-says-2024-01-10/)\n
      - [lepoint.fr/…/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d…](https://www.lepoint.fr/monde/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d-une-debacle-05-01-2024-2549049_24.php)\n
      - [lemonde.fr/…/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-ex…](https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2023/09/27/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-express-discontent-i-repeatedly-told-them-nato-manuals-didn-t-apply_6140349_4.html)\n
      - [spiegel.de/…/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-…](https://www.spiegel.de/politik/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-deutschen-pannen-panzern-a-cd9421ae-4a96-4d4f-983a-6205a063ae15)\n
      - [archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73](https://archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73)\n
      - [telegraph.co.uk/…/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-…](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/12/27/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-tide-war-ukraine/)\n
      - [www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/…/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/ukraine-war-victory-hopes-dim-intl/index.html)\n
      - [cbc.ca/…/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232](https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232)\n
      \n
      and here’s some analysis from military strategists for you\n
      \n
      - [www.russiamatters.org/…/whats-ahead-war-ukraine](https://www.russiamatters.org/analysis/whats-ahead-war-ukraine)\n
      - […substack.com/…/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukra…](https://mearsheimer.substack.com/p/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukraine)\n
      - [rusi.org/…/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challeng…](https://www.rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challenges-and-innovations)\n
      \n
      Russia will win this war, and the only thing the west has achieved was to help destroy Ukraine by sabotaging negotiations in 2022.
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            The actual truth is that it’s NATO that’s been constantly expanding towards Russia. It’s also NATO that’s been invading and destroying countries since the end of USSR. Syria, Libya, and Yugoslavia being some prominent examples.\n
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          +body: "NATO is an aggressive alliance that has invaded and destroyed numerous countries. The fact that you keep pretending that it’s a defensive alliance just shows how utterly dishonest you are."
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            > False equivalence.\n
            \n
            It’s not.\n
            \n
            > Because Russia attacked them.\n
            \n
            No, Ukraine has been engaged in atrocities in Donbas since 2014 as even western media reported at the time.\n
            \n
            > It is in fact the opposite. No neutral country stays that way for long when Russia wants it’s territory.\n
            \n
            I see you have problems with reading comprehension.\n
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            > If the West had not helped, there would be no Ukraine either. We would be condemning them to a decade of guerilla warfare and oppression. Emboldened by his victory, Putin would look further west.\n
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            If the west didn’t run a coup to overthrow a democratically elected government then there would’ve been no troubles in Ukraine. Period.\n
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            > Ukrainians now fight Russia, both sides are getting exhausted and it all depends on what help Ukraine gets. Your magical peace treaty would just mean Russia trying this again in 5 years or less.\n
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            That’s complete and utter nonsense, and even western media now admits this.\n
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            > You could have used the same arguments to make peace with the Nazis in 1941 and the world would only be worse for it.\n
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            Now that’s what actual false equivalence looks like.
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          +body: "Share a source for NATO invading Yugoslavia, Libya, Syria, and Afghanistan, is that what you’re asking there little buddy?"
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          +body: "No, I’m saying that anybody can type in words NATO and Yugoslavia or NATO and Libya into Google and see that you’re a liar."
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            Russian economy is growing while the west is going into a recession. [Russian factory activity grows at fastest pace in over six years](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-factory-activity-grows-fastest-pace-over-six-years-sept-pmi-2023-10-02/), meanwhile [while US manufacturing activity shrinks the most in three years.](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-07-03/us-manufacturing-activity-shrinks-by-most-in-three-years). UK now [can’t even make steel from raw materials.](https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/jan/18/tata-steel-to-shut-down-port-talbot-blast-furnaces-3000-jobs-at-risk)\n
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            Yes, people still bleat about a weaker Russia. 🤡
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          +body: "Here’s an idea go sign up as a volunteer in Ukraine and fight yourself instead of cheering on for other people to die for you, you disgusting sack of shit."
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            The fact that the west was deeply involved in the coup is well documented even in western media\n
            \n
            - [quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukr…](https://www.quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukraines-2014-revolution-was-due-to-a-CIA-coup) ([archive.ph/BAxYc](https://archive.ph/BAxYc))\n
            - [consortiumnews.com/…/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-i…](https://consortiumnews.com/2022/12/29/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-in-kiev/)\n
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            The foundations of my beliefs are that the west saw itself as the winner of the cold war after USSR dissolved, and decided to renege on all the promises that were made in the 90s. This created increasing tensions with Russia, and eventually led to the war we’re seeing play out in Ukraine. This is a proxy war between NATO and Russia, and it’s following the script that [was outlined by RAND](https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR3063.html).\n
            \n
            The west made a huge miscalculation thinking that it could defeat Russia militarily and economically, and now the whole thing is starting to backfire. NATO is finding that it lacks the industrial base to sustain the conflict. Russia managed to reroute its trade away from the west, which caused immeasurable economic damage to Europe. The world outside the G7 has been increasingly aligning towards Russia and China and away from the west. This proxy war is heralding the end of the unipolar moment that US enjoyed and ushering in multipolarity.\n
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            > I have been using Google for long enough to know that it often shows us what we want to see, not that which is most likely to be correct. :)\n
            \n
            Have you considered that this might be why you still think that Ukraine is winning despite all the evidence to the contrary?\n
            \n
            > Regarding Russian economic data you seem to be flaunting, Russia has made it hard for outside sources to verify any of it.\n
            \n
            Every mainstream western outlet, including the IMF, agrees that Russian economy is growing. No serious economists dispute this.\n
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            > You seem to derive a lot of your opinions from mearsheimer.substack.com source but the sources the author uses to prove your points often come from rt.com which is like, the worst source for this discussion.\n
            \n
            Mearsheimer is just one example, and he is a preeminent political scientist in the US. The reality is that there is propaganda in the west just like there is in Russia, and western media often omits covering things that RT covers. Simply dismissing information based on the source is frankly absurd.\n
            \n
            Incidentally, Mearsheimer gave an entire lecture back in 2014 predicting the events in Ukraine that are currently unfolding, seems to me that he might know what he’s talking about [www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4)\n
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            > I will, however, refrain from posting on lemmy.ml in the future, because I can see that you are a mod of several communities on this instance and your overall conduct in this post has been rather childish and disrespectful. I feel like mods should hold themselves to a higher standard.\n
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            Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
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      > Russian propaganda talking point.\n
      \n
      Ah yes, Russian propaganda point as reported by CNN back in 2014 [twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296](https://twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296)\n
      \n
      There’s even an hour long documentary from France on this [www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs)\n
      \n
      Pretending this just didn’t happen is the height of intellectual dishonesty.\n
      \n
      > Euromaidan was not a coup.\n
      \n
      Yes, it was and there’s overwhelming evidence for it.\n
      \n
      > Cite sources for the first point and military strategy analysts for the second.\n
      \n
      Are you just incapable of using google, I guess that would explain why you believe in nonsense. Here you go. First of all Russian economy is now rapidly growing while the west is going into a recession. This is not a country that’s showing any signs of being exhausted:\n
      \n
      - [newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-op…](https://www.newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-opinion-1861645)\n
      - [reuters.com/…/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-rosstat-2023-12-13/)\n
      - [reuters.com/…/russian-factory-activity-expands-fa…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russian-factory-activity-expands-fastest-pace-seven-years-dec-pmi-2023-12-29/)\n
      \n
      and here’s some recent mainstream media reporting on the state of the war for you to chew on\n
      \n
      - [www.nytimes.com/2024/…/ukraine-russia-war.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/13/world/europe/ukraine-russia-war.html)\n
      - [reuters.com/…/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defen…](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defence-minister-says-2024-01-10/)\n
      - [lepoint.fr/…/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d…](https://www.lepoint.fr/monde/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d-une-debacle-05-01-2024-2549049_24.php)\n
      - [lemonde.fr/…/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-ex…](https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2023/09/27/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-express-discontent-i-repeatedly-told-them-nato-manuals-didn-t-apply_6140349_4.html)\n
      - [spiegel.de/…/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-…](https://www.spiegel.de/politik/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-deutschen-pannen-panzern-a-cd9421ae-4a96-4d4f-983a-6205a063ae15)\n
      - [archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73](https://archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73)\n
      - [telegraph.co.uk/…/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-…](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/12/27/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-tide-war-ukraine/)\n
      - [www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/…/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/ukraine-war-victory-hopes-dim-intl/index.html)\n
      - [cbc.ca/…/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232](https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232)\n
      \n
      and here’s some analysis from military strategists for you\n
      \n
      - [www.russiamatters.org/…/whats-ahead-war-ukraine](https://www.russiamatters.org/analysis/whats-ahead-war-ukraine)\n
      - […substack.com/…/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukra…](https://mearsheimer.substack.com/p/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukraine)\n
      - [rusi.org/…/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challeng…](https://www.rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challenges-and-innovations)\n
      \n
      Russia will win this war, and the only thing the west has achieved was to help destroy Ukraine by sabotaging negotiations in 2022.
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            The actual truth is that it’s NATO that’s been constantly expanding towards Russia. It’s also NATO that’s been invading and destroying countries since the end of USSR. Syria, Libya, and Yugoslavia being some prominent examples.\n
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          +body: "NATO is an aggressive alliance that has invaded and destroyed numerous countries. The fact that you keep pretending that it’s a defensive alliance just shows how utterly dishonest you are."
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            > False equivalence.\n
            \n
            It’s not.\n
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            > Because Russia attacked them.\n
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            No, Ukraine has been engaged in atrocities in Donbas since 2014 as even western media reported at the time.\n
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            > It is in fact the opposite. No neutral country stays that way for long when Russia wants it’s territory.\n
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            I see you have problems with reading comprehension.\n
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            If the west didn’t run a coup to overthrow a democratically elected government then there would’ve been no troubles in Ukraine. Period.\n
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            That’s complete and utter nonsense, and even western media now admits this.\n
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            > You could have used the same arguments to make peace with the Nazis in 1941 and the world would only be worse for it.\n
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            Now that’s what actual false equivalence looks like.
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          +body: "Share a source for NATO invading Yugoslavia, Libya, Syria, and Afghanistan, is that what you’re asking there little buddy?"
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          +body: "No, I’m saying that anybody can type in words NATO and Yugoslavia or NATO and Libya into Google and see that you’re a liar."
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            Russian economy is growing while the west is going into a recession. [Russian factory activity grows at fastest pace in over six years](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-factory-activity-grows-fastest-pace-over-six-years-sept-pmi-2023-10-02/), meanwhile [while US manufacturing activity shrinks the most in three years.](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-07-03/us-manufacturing-activity-shrinks-by-most-in-three-years). UK now [can’t even make steel from raw materials.](https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/jan/18/tata-steel-to-shut-down-port-talbot-blast-furnaces-3000-jobs-at-risk)\n
            \n
            Yes, people still bleat about a weaker Russia. 🤡
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          +body: "Here’s an idea go sign up as a volunteer in Ukraine and fight yourself instead of cheering on for other people to die for you, you disgusting sack of shit."
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          +body: "I see somebody is projecting"
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            The fact that the west was deeply involved in the coup is well documented even in western media\n
            \n
            - [quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukr…](https://www.quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukraines-2014-revolution-was-due-to-a-CIA-coup) ([archive.ph/BAxYc](https://archive.ph/BAxYc))\n
            - [consortiumnews.com/…/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-i…](https://consortiumnews.com/2022/12/29/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-in-kiev/)\n
            \n
            The foundations of my beliefs are that the west saw itself as the winner of the cold war after USSR dissolved, and decided to renege on all the promises that were made in the 90s. This created increasing tensions with Russia, and eventually led to the war we’re seeing play out in Ukraine. This is a proxy war between NATO and Russia, and it’s following the script that [was outlined by RAND](https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR3063.html).\n
            \n
            The west made a huge miscalculation thinking that it could defeat Russia militarily and economically, and now the whole thing is starting to backfire. NATO is finding that it lacks the industrial base to sustain the conflict. Russia managed to reroute its trade away from the west, which caused immeasurable economic damage to Europe. The world outside the G7 has been increasingly aligning towards Russia and China and away from the west. This proxy war is heralding the end of the unipolar moment that US enjoyed and ushering in multipolarity.\n
            \n
            > I have been using Google for long enough to know that it often shows us what we want to see, not that which is most likely to be correct. :)\n
            \n
            Have you considered that this might be why you still think that Ukraine is winning despite all the evidence to the contrary?\n
            \n
            > Regarding Russian economic data you seem to be flaunting, Russia has made it hard for outside sources to verify any of it.\n
            \n
            Every mainstream western outlet, including the IMF, agrees that Russian economy is growing. No serious economists dispute this.\n
            \n
            > You seem to derive a lot of your opinions from mearsheimer.substack.com source but the sources the author uses to prove your points often come from rt.com which is like, the worst source for this discussion.\n
            \n
            Mearsheimer is just one example, and he is a preeminent political scientist in the US. The reality is that there is propaganda in the west just like there is in Russia, and western media often omits covering things that RT covers. Simply dismissing information based on the source is frankly absurd.\n
            \n
            Incidentally, Mearsheimer gave an entire lecture back in 2014 predicting the events in Ukraine that are currently unfolding, seems to me that he might know what he’s talking about [www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4)\n
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            > I will, however, refrain from posting on lemmy.ml in the future, because I can see that you are a mod of several communities on this instance and your overall conduct in this post has been rather childish and disrespectful. I feel like mods should hold themselves to a higher standard.\n
            \n
            Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
            """
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      > Russian propaganda talking point.\n
      \n
      Ah yes, Russian propaganda point as reported by CNN back in 2014 [twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296](https://twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296)\n
      \n
      There’s even an hour long documentary from France on this [www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs)\n
      \n
      Pretending this just didn’t happen is the height of intellectual dishonesty.\n
      \n
      > Euromaidan was not a coup.\n
      \n
      Yes, it was and there’s overwhelming evidence for it.\n
      \n
      > Cite sources for the first point and military strategy analysts for the second.\n
      \n
      Are you just incapable of using google, I guess that would explain why you believe in nonsense. Here you go. First of all Russian economy is now rapidly growing while the west is going into a recession. This is not a country that’s showing any signs of being exhausted:\n
      \n
      - [newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-op…](https://www.newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-opinion-1861645)\n
      - [reuters.com/…/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-rosstat-2023-12-13/)\n
      - [reuters.com/…/russian-factory-activity-expands-fa…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russian-factory-activity-expands-fastest-pace-seven-years-dec-pmi-2023-12-29/)\n
      \n
      and here’s some recent mainstream media reporting on the state of the war for you to chew on\n
      \n
      - [www.nytimes.com/2024/…/ukraine-russia-war.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/13/world/europe/ukraine-russia-war.html)\n
      - [reuters.com/…/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defen…](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defence-minister-says-2024-01-10/)\n
      - [lepoint.fr/…/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d…](https://www.lepoint.fr/monde/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d-une-debacle-05-01-2024-2549049_24.php)\n
      - [lemonde.fr/…/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-ex…](https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2023/09/27/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-express-discontent-i-repeatedly-told-them-nato-manuals-didn-t-apply_6140349_4.html)\n
      - [spiegel.de/…/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-…](https://www.spiegel.de/politik/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-deutschen-pannen-panzern-a-cd9421ae-4a96-4d4f-983a-6205a063ae15)\n
      - [archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73](https://archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73)\n
      - [telegraph.co.uk/…/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-…](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/12/27/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-tide-war-ukraine/)\n
      - [www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/…/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/ukraine-war-victory-hopes-dim-intl/index.html)\n
      - [cbc.ca/…/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232](https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232)\n
      \n
      and here’s some analysis from military strategists for you\n
      \n
      - [www.russiamatters.org/…/whats-ahead-war-ukraine](https://www.russiamatters.org/analysis/whats-ahead-war-ukraine)\n
      - […substack.com/…/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukra…](https://mearsheimer.substack.com/p/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukraine)\n
      - [rusi.org/…/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challeng…](https://www.rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challenges-and-innovations)\n
      \n
      Russia will win this war, and the only thing the west has achieved was to help destroy Ukraine by sabotaging negotiations in 2022.
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          +body: "After two years, it’s pretty clear that the west is not capable of doing anything of the sort. All the west managed to achieve was to ensure that hundreds of thousands of people died, and that Ukraine lost large parts of its territory in the process. We now have admissions from Ukrainian negotiators that a peace deal was close to being reached last March before the west sabotaged it."
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            The actual truth is that it’s NATO that’s been constantly expanding towards Russia. It’s also NATO that’s been invading and destroying countries since the end of USSR. Syria, Libya, and Yugoslavia being some prominent examples.\n
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            Meanwhile, Russia tried to resolve this situation diplomatically since 2008 with Minsk agreements that western leaders now openly admit were a delaying tactic by the west.\n
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            Finally, section IX of Ukraine’s 1990 Declaration of State Sovereignty states the following:\n
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            [The Ukrainian SSR solemnly declares its intention of becoming a permanently neutral state that does not participate in military blocs and adheres to three nuclear free principles: to accept, to produce and to purchase no nuclear weapons.](https://web.archive.org/web/20130615031823/https://static.rada.gov.ua/site/postanova_eng/Declaration_of_State_Sovereignty_of_Ukraine_rev1.htm)\n
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            The whole legal basis for the existence of state of Ukraine is predicated on Ukraine staying neutral and not joining military blocs. Ukraine broke the very basis of this agreement when it tried to join NATO.\n
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            Now, thanks to western “help”, Ukraine will lose far more territory than it would have if the deal was done last year, and it may even cease to exist as a state. I can’t wait for you to explain how this actually helps people of Ukraine.
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          +body: "NATO is an aggressive alliance that has invaded and destroyed numerous countries. The fact that you keep pretending that it’s a defensive alliance just shows how utterly dishonest you are."
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            > False equivalence.\n
            \n
            It’s not.\n
            \n
            > Because Russia attacked them.\n
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            No, Ukraine has been engaged in atrocities in Donbas since 2014 as even western media reported at the time.\n
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            > It is in fact the opposite. No neutral country stays that way for long when Russia wants it’s territory.\n
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            I see you have problems with reading comprehension.\n
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            > If the West had not helped, there would be no Ukraine either. We would be condemning them to a decade of guerilla warfare and oppression. Emboldened by his victory, Putin would look further west.\n
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            If the west didn’t run a coup to overthrow a democratically elected government then there would’ve been no troubles in Ukraine. Period.\n
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            > Ukrainians now fight Russia, both sides are getting exhausted and it all depends on what help Ukraine gets. Your magical peace treaty would just mean Russia trying this again in 5 years or less.\n
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            That’s complete and utter nonsense, and even western media now admits this.\n
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            > You could have used the same arguments to make peace with the Nazis in 1941 and the world would only be worse for it.\n
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            Now that’s what actual false equivalence looks like.
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          +body: "Share a source for NATO invading Yugoslavia, Libya, Syria, and Afghanistan, is that what you’re asking there little buddy?"
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            Russian economy is growing while the west is going into a recession. [Russian factory activity grows at fastest pace in over six years](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-factory-activity-grows-fastest-pace-over-six-years-sept-pmi-2023-10-02/), meanwhile [while US manufacturing activity shrinks the most in three years.](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-07-03/us-manufacturing-activity-shrinks-by-most-in-three-years). UK now [can’t even make steel from raw materials.](https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/jan/18/tata-steel-to-shut-down-port-talbot-blast-furnaces-3000-jobs-at-risk)\n
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            Yes, people still bleat about a weaker Russia. 🤡
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            The fact that the west was deeply involved in the coup is well documented even in western media\n
            \n
            - [quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukr…](https://www.quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukraines-2014-revolution-was-due-to-a-CIA-coup) ([archive.ph/BAxYc](https://archive.ph/BAxYc))\n
            - [consortiumnews.com/…/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-i…](https://consortiumnews.com/2022/12/29/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-in-kiev/)\n
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            The foundations of my beliefs are that the west saw itself as the winner of the cold war after USSR dissolved, and decided to renege on all the promises that were made in the 90s. This created increasing tensions with Russia, and eventually led to the war we’re seeing play out in Ukraine. This is a proxy war between NATO and Russia, and it’s following the script that [was outlined by RAND](https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR3063.html).\n
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            The west made a huge miscalculation thinking that it could defeat Russia militarily and economically, and now the whole thing is starting to backfire. NATO is finding that it lacks the industrial base to sustain the conflict. Russia managed to reroute its trade away from the west, which caused immeasurable economic damage to Europe. The world outside the G7 has been increasingly aligning towards Russia and China and away from the west. This proxy war is heralding the end of the unipolar moment that US enjoyed and ushering in multipolarity.\n
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            > I have been using Google for long enough to know that it often shows us what we want to see, not that which is most likely to be correct. :)\n
            \n
            Have you considered that this might be why you still think that Ukraine is winning despite all the evidence to the contrary?\n
            \n
            > Regarding Russian economic data you seem to be flaunting, Russia has made it hard for outside sources to verify any of it.\n
            \n
            Every mainstream western outlet, including the IMF, agrees that Russian economy is growing. No serious economists dispute this.\n
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            > You seem to derive a lot of your opinions from mearsheimer.substack.com source but the sources the author uses to prove your points often come from rt.com which is like, the worst source for this discussion.\n
            \n
            Mearsheimer is just one example, and he is a preeminent political scientist in the US. The reality is that there is propaganda in the west just like there is in Russia, and western media often omits covering things that RT covers. Simply dismissing information based on the source is frankly absurd.\n
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            Incidentally, Mearsheimer gave an entire lecture back in 2014 predicting the events in Ukraine that are currently unfolding, seems to me that he might know what he’s talking about [www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4)\n
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            > I will, however, refrain from posting on lemmy.ml in the future, because I can see that you are a mod of several communities on this instance and your overall conduct in this post has been rather childish and disrespectful. I feel like mods should hold themselves to a higher standard.\n
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            Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
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      > Russian propaganda talking point.\n
      \n
      Ah yes, Russian propaganda point as reported by CNN back in 2014 [twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296](https://twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296)\n
      \n
      There’s even an hour long documentary from France on this [www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs)\n
      \n
      Pretending this just didn’t happen is the height of intellectual dishonesty.\n
      \n
      > Euromaidan was not a coup.\n
      \n
      Yes, it was and there’s overwhelming evidence for it.\n
      \n
      > Cite sources for the first point and military strategy analysts for the second.\n
      \n
      Are you just incapable of using google, I guess that would explain why you believe in nonsense. Here you go. First of all Russian economy is now rapidly growing while the west is going into a recession. This is not a country that’s showing any signs of being exhausted:\n
      \n
      - [newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-op…](https://www.newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-opinion-1861645)\n
      - [reuters.com/…/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-rosstat-2023-12-13/)\n
      - [reuters.com/…/russian-factory-activity-expands-fa…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russian-factory-activity-expands-fastest-pace-seven-years-dec-pmi-2023-12-29/)\n
      \n
      and here’s some recent mainstream media reporting on the state of the war for you to chew on\n
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      - [www.nytimes.com/2024/…/ukraine-russia-war.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/13/world/europe/ukraine-russia-war.html)\n
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      - [lepoint.fr/…/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d…](https://www.lepoint.fr/monde/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d-une-debacle-05-01-2024-2549049_24.php)\n
      - [lemonde.fr/…/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-ex…](https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2023/09/27/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-express-discontent-i-repeatedly-told-them-nato-manuals-didn-t-apply_6140349_4.html)\n
      - [spiegel.de/…/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-…](https://www.spiegel.de/politik/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-deutschen-pannen-panzern-a-cd9421ae-4a96-4d4f-983a-6205a063ae15)\n
      - [archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73](https://archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73)\n
      - [telegraph.co.uk/…/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-…](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/12/27/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-tide-war-ukraine/)\n
      - [www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/…/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/ukraine-war-victory-hopes-dim-intl/index.html)\n
      - [cbc.ca/…/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232](https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232)\n
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      - […substack.com/…/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukra…](https://mearsheimer.substack.com/p/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukraine)\n
      - [rusi.org/…/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challeng…](https://www.rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challenges-and-innovations)\n
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            The actual truth is that it’s NATO that’s been constantly expanding towards Russia. It’s also NATO that’s been invading and destroying countries since the end of USSR. Syria, Libya, and Yugoslavia being some prominent examples.\n
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            Meanwhile, Russia tried to resolve this situation diplomatically since 2008 with Minsk agreements that western leaders now openly admit were a delaying tactic by the west.\n
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            Finally, section IX of Ukraine’s 1990 Declaration of State Sovereignty states the following:\n
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            [The Ukrainian SSR solemnly declares its intention of becoming a permanently neutral state that does not participate in military blocs and adheres to three nuclear free principles: to accept, to produce and to purchase no nuclear weapons.](https://web.archive.org/web/20130615031823/https://static.rada.gov.ua/site/postanova_eng/Declaration_of_State_Sovereignty_of_Ukraine_rev1.htm)\n
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            The whole legal basis for the existence of state of Ukraine is predicated on Ukraine staying neutral and not joining military blocs. Ukraine broke the very basis of this agreement when it tried to join NATO.\n
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            Now, thanks to western “help”, Ukraine will lose far more territory than it would have if the deal was done last year, and it may even cease to exist as a state. I can’t wait for you to explain how this actually helps people of Ukraine.
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          +body: "NATO is an aggressive alliance that has invaded and destroyed numerous countries. The fact that you keep pretending that it’s a defensive alliance just shows how utterly dishonest you are."
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            > False equivalence.\n
            \n
            It’s not.\n
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            > Because Russia attacked them.\n
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            No, Ukraine has been engaged in atrocities in Donbas since 2014 as even western media reported at the time.\n
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            > It is in fact the opposite. No neutral country stays that way for long when Russia wants it’s territory.\n
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            I see you have problems with reading comprehension.\n
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            > If the West had not helped, there would be no Ukraine either. We would be condemning them to a decade of guerilla warfare and oppression. Emboldened by his victory, Putin would look further west.\n
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            If the west didn’t run a coup to overthrow a democratically elected government then there would’ve been no troubles in Ukraine. Period.\n
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            > Ukrainians now fight Russia, both sides are getting exhausted and it all depends on what help Ukraine gets. Your magical peace treaty would just mean Russia trying this again in 5 years or less.\n
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            That’s complete and utter nonsense, and even western media now admits this.\n
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            > You could have used the same arguments to make peace with the Nazis in 1941 and the world would only be worse for it.\n
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            Now that’s what actual false equivalence looks like.
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          +body: "Share a source for NATO invading Yugoslavia, Libya, Syria, and Afghanistan, is that what you’re asking there little buddy?"
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            Russian economy is growing while the west is going into a recession. [Russian factory activity grows at fastest pace in over six years](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-factory-activity-grows-fastest-pace-over-six-years-sept-pmi-2023-10-02/), meanwhile [while US manufacturing activity shrinks the most in three years.](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-07-03/us-manufacturing-activity-shrinks-by-most-in-three-years). UK now [can’t even make steel from raw materials.](https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/jan/18/tata-steel-to-shut-down-port-talbot-blast-furnaces-3000-jobs-at-risk)\n
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            Yes, people still bleat about a weaker Russia. 🤡
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            The fact that the west was deeply involved in the coup is well documented even in western media\n
            \n
            - [quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukr…](https://www.quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukraines-2014-revolution-was-due-to-a-CIA-coup) ([archive.ph/BAxYc](https://archive.ph/BAxYc))\n
            - [consortiumnews.com/…/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-i…](https://consortiumnews.com/2022/12/29/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-in-kiev/)\n
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            The foundations of my beliefs are that the west saw itself as the winner of the cold war after USSR dissolved, and decided to renege on all the promises that were made in the 90s. This created increasing tensions with Russia, and eventually led to the war we’re seeing play out in Ukraine. This is a proxy war between NATO and Russia, and it’s following the script that [was outlined by RAND](https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR3063.html).\n
            \n
            The west made a huge miscalculation thinking that it could defeat Russia militarily and economically, and now the whole thing is starting to backfire. NATO is finding that it lacks the industrial base to sustain the conflict. Russia managed to reroute its trade away from the west, which caused immeasurable economic damage to Europe. The world outside the G7 has been increasingly aligning towards Russia and China and away from the west. This proxy war is heralding the end of the unipolar moment that US enjoyed and ushering in multipolarity.\n
            \n
            > I have been using Google for long enough to know that it often shows us what we want to see, not that which is most likely to be correct. :)\n
            \n
            Have you considered that this might be why you still think that Ukraine is winning despite all the evidence to the contrary?\n
            \n
            > Regarding Russian economic data you seem to be flaunting, Russia has made it hard for outside sources to verify any of it.\n
            \n
            Every mainstream western outlet, including the IMF, agrees that Russian economy is growing. No serious economists dispute this.\n
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            > You seem to derive a lot of your opinions from mearsheimer.substack.com source but the sources the author uses to prove your points often come from rt.com which is like, the worst source for this discussion.\n
            \n
            Mearsheimer is just one example, and he is a preeminent political scientist in the US. The reality is that there is propaganda in the west just like there is in Russia, and western media often omits covering things that RT covers. Simply dismissing information based on the source is frankly absurd.\n
            \n
            Incidentally, Mearsheimer gave an entire lecture back in 2014 predicting the events in Ukraine that are currently unfolding, seems to me that he might know what he’s talking about [www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4)\n
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            > I will, however, refrain from posting on lemmy.ml in the future, because I can see that you are a mod of several communities on this instance and your overall conduct in this post has been rather childish and disrespectful. I feel like mods should hold themselves to a higher standard.\n
            \n
            Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
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      > Russian propaganda talking point.\n
      \n
      Ah yes, Russian propaganda point as reported by CNN back in 2014 [twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296](https://twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296)\n
      \n
      There’s even an hour long documentary from France on this [www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs)\n
      \n
      Pretending this just didn’t happen is the height of intellectual dishonesty.\n
      \n
      > Euromaidan was not a coup.\n
      \n
      Yes, it was and there’s overwhelming evidence for it.\n
      \n
      > Cite sources for the first point and military strategy analysts for the second.\n
      \n
      Are you just incapable of using google, I guess that would explain why you believe in nonsense. Here you go. First of all Russian economy is now rapidly growing while the west is going into a recession. This is not a country that’s showing any signs of being exhausted:\n
      \n
      - [newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-op…](https://www.newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-opinion-1861645)\n
      - [reuters.com/…/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-rosstat-2023-12-13/)\n
      - [reuters.com/…/russian-factory-activity-expands-fa…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russian-factory-activity-expands-fastest-pace-seven-years-dec-pmi-2023-12-29/)\n
      \n
      and here’s some recent mainstream media reporting on the state of the war for you to chew on\n
      \n
      - [www.nytimes.com/2024/…/ukraine-russia-war.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/13/world/europe/ukraine-russia-war.html)\n
      - [reuters.com/…/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defen…](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defence-minister-says-2024-01-10/)\n
      - [lepoint.fr/…/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d…](https://www.lepoint.fr/monde/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d-une-debacle-05-01-2024-2549049_24.php)\n
      - [lemonde.fr/…/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-ex…](https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2023/09/27/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-express-discontent-i-repeatedly-told-them-nato-manuals-didn-t-apply_6140349_4.html)\n
      - [spiegel.de/…/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-…](https://www.spiegel.de/politik/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-deutschen-pannen-panzern-a-cd9421ae-4a96-4d4f-983a-6205a063ae15)\n
      - [archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73](https://archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73)\n
      - [telegraph.co.uk/…/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-…](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/12/27/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-tide-war-ukraine/)\n
      - [www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/…/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/ukraine-war-victory-hopes-dim-intl/index.html)\n
      - [cbc.ca/…/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232](https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232)\n
      \n
      and here’s some analysis from military strategists for you\n
      \n
      - [www.russiamatters.org/…/whats-ahead-war-ukraine](https://www.russiamatters.org/analysis/whats-ahead-war-ukraine)\n
      - […substack.com/…/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukra…](https://mearsheimer.substack.com/p/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukraine)\n
      - [rusi.org/…/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challeng…](https://www.rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challenges-and-innovations)\n
      \n
      Russia will win this war, and the only thing the west has achieved was to help destroy Ukraine by sabotaging negotiations in 2022.
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          +body: "NATO is an aggressive alliance that has invaded and destroyed numerous countries. The fact that you keep pretending that it’s a defensive alliance just shows how utterly dishonest you are."
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            > False equivalence.\n
            \n
            It’s not.\n
            \n
            > Because Russia attacked them.\n
            \n
            No, Ukraine has been engaged in atrocities in Donbas since 2014 as even western media reported at the time.\n
            \n
            > It is in fact the opposite. No neutral country stays that way for long when Russia wants it’s territory.\n
            \n
            I see you have problems with reading comprehension.\n
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            > If the West had not helped, there would be no Ukraine either. We would be condemning them to a decade of guerilla warfare and oppression. Emboldened by his victory, Putin would look further west.\n
            \n
            If the west didn’t run a coup to overthrow a democratically elected government then there would’ve been no troubles in Ukraine. Period.\n
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            > Ukrainians now fight Russia, both sides are getting exhausted and it all depends on what help Ukraine gets. Your magical peace treaty would just mean Russia trying this again in 5 years or less.\n
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            That’s complete and utter nonsense, and even western media now admits this.\n
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            > You could have used the same arguments to make peace with the Nazis in 1941 and the world would only be worse for it.\n
            \n
            Now that’s what actual false equivalence looks like.
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            > Russian propaganda talking point.\n
            \n
            Ah yes, Russian propaganda point as reported by CNN back in 2014 [twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296](https://twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296)\n
            \n
            There’s even an hour long documentary from France on this [www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs)\n
            \n
            Pretending this just didn’t happen is the height of intellectual dishonesty.\n
            \n
            > Euromaidan was not a coup.\n
            \n
            Yes, it was and there’s overwhelming evidence for it.\n
            \n
            > Cite sources for the first point and military strategy analysts for the second.\n
            \n
            Are you just incapable of using google, I guess that would explain why you believe in nonsense. Here you go. First of all Russian economy is now rapidly growing while the west is going into a recession. This is not a country that’s showing any signs of being exhausted:\n
            \n
            - [newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-op…](https://www.newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-opinion-1861645)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-rosstat-2023-12-13/)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russian-factory-activity-expands-fa…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russian-factory-activity-expands-fastest-pace-seven-years-dec-pmi-2023-12-29/)\n
            \n
            and here’s some recent mainstream media reporting on the state of the war for you to chew on\n
            \n
            - [www.nytimes.com/2024/…/ukraine-russia-war.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/13/world/europe/ukraine-russia-war.html)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defen…](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defence-minister-says-2024-01-10/)\n
            - [lepoint.fr/…/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d…](https://www.lepoint.fr/monde/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d-une-debacle-05-01-2024-2549049_24.php)\n
            - [lemonde.fr/…/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-ex…](https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2023/09/27/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-express-discontent-i-repeatedly-told-them-nato-manuals-didn-t-apply_6140349_4.html)\n
            - [spiegel.de/…/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-…](https://www.spiegel.de/politik/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-deutschen-pannen-panzern-a-cd9421ae-4a96-4d4f-983a-6205a063ae15)\n
            - [archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73](https://archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73)\n
            - [telegraph.co.uk/…/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-…](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/12/27/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-tide-war-ukraine/)\n
            - [www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/…/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/ukraine-war-victory-hopes-dim-intl/index.html)\n
            - [cbc.ca/…/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232](https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232)\n
            \n
            and here’s some analysis from military strategists for you\n
            \n
            - [www.russiamatters.org/…/whats-ahead-war-ukraine](https://www.russiamatters.org/analysis/whats-ahead-war-ukraine)\n
            - […substack.com/…/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukra…](https://mearsheimer.substack.com/p/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukraine)\n
            - [rusi.org/…/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challeng…](https://www.rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challenges-and-innovations)\n
            \n
            Russia will win this war, and the only thing the west has achieved was to help destroy Ukraine by sabotaging negotiations in 2022.
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            Russian economy is growing while the west is going into a recession. [Russian factory activity grows at fastest pace in over six years](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-factory-activity-grows-fastest-pace-over-six-years-sept-pmi-2023-10-02/), meanwhile [while US manufacturing activity shrinks the most in three years.](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-07-03/us-manufacturing-activity-shrinks-by-most-in-three-years). UK now [can’t even make steel from raw materials.](https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/jan/18/tata-steel-to-shut-down-port-talbot-blast-furnaces-3000-jobs-at-risk)\n
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            Yes, people still bleat about a weaker Russia. 🤡
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            The fact that the west was deeply involved in the coup is well documented even in western media\n
            \n
            - [quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukr…](https://www.quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukraines-2014-revolution-was-due-to-a-CIA-coup) ([archive.ph/BAxYc](https://archive.ph/BAxYc))\n
            - [consortiumnews.com/…/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-i…](https://consortiumnews.com/2022/12/29/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-in-kiev/)\n
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            The foundations of my beliefs are that the west saw itself as the winner of the cold war after USSR dissolved, and decided to renege on all the promises that were made in the 90s. This created increasing tensions with Russia, and eventually led to the war we’re seeing play out in Ukraine. This is a proxy war between NATO and Russia, and it’s following the script that [was outlined by RAND](https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR3063.html).\n
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            The west made a huge miscalculation thinking that it could defeat Russia militarily and economically, and now the whole thing is starting to backfire. NATO is finding that it lacks the industrial base to sustain the conflict. Russia managed to reroute its trade away from the west, which caused immeasurable economic damage to Europe. The world outside the G7 has been increasingly aligning towards Russia and China and away from the west. This proxy war is heralding the end of the unipolar moment that US enjoyed and ushering in multipolarity.\n
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            > I have been using Google for long enough to know that it often shows us what we want to see, not that which is most likely to be correct. :)\n
            \n
            Have you considered that this might be why you still think that Ukraine is winning despite all the evidence to the contrary?\n
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            > Regarding Russian economic data you seem to be flaunting, Russia has made it hard for outside sources to verify any of it.\n
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            Every mainstream western outlet, including the IMF, agrees that Russian economy is growing. No serious economists dispute this.\n
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            > You seem to derive a lot of your opinions from mearsheimer.substack.com source but the sources the author uses to prove your points often come from rt.com which is like, the worst source for this discussion.\n
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            Mearsheimer is just one example, and he is a preeminent political scientist in the US. The reality is that there is propaganda in the west just like there is in Russia, and western media often omits covering things that RT covers. Simply dismissing information based on the source is frankly absurd.\n
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            Incidentally, Mearsheimer gave an entire lecture back in 2014 predicting the events in Ukraine that are currently unfolding, seems to me that he might know what he’s talking about [www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4)\n
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            > I will, however, refrain from posting on lemmy.ml in the future, because I can see that you are a mod of several communities on this instance and your overall conduct in this post has been rather childish and disrespectful. I feel like mods should hold themselves to a higher standard.\n
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            Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
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          +body: "After two years, it’s pretty clear that the west is not capable of doing anything of the sort. All the west managed to achieve was to ensure that hundreds of thousands of people died, and that Ukraine lost large parts of its territory in the process. We now have admissions from Ukrainian negotiators that a peace deal was close to being reached last March before the west sabotaged it."
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            The actual truth is that it’s NATO that’s been constantly expanding towards Russia. It’s also NATO that’s been invading and destroying countries since the end of USSR. Syria, Libya, and Yugoslavia being some prominent examples.\n
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            Meanwhile, Russia tried to resolve this situation diplomatically since 2008 with Minsk agreements that western leaders now openly admit were a delaying tactic by the west.\n
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          +body: "NATO is an aggressive alliance that has invaded and destroyed numerous countries. The fact that you keep pretending that it’s a defensive alliance just shows how utterly dishonest you are."
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            > False equivalence.\n
            \n
            It’s not.\n
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            > Because Russia attacked them.\n
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            No, Ukraine has been engaged in atrocities in Donbas since 2014 as even western media reported at the time.\n
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            > It is in fact the opposite. No neutral country stays that way for long when Russia wants it’s territory.\n
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            I see you have problems with reading comprehension.\n
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            If the west didn’t run a coup to overthrow a democratically elected government then there would’ve been no troubles in Ukraine. Period.\n
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            That’s complete and utter nonsense, and even western media now admits this.\n
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            > You could have used the same arguments to make peace with the Nazis in 1941 and the world would only be worse for it.\n
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            Now that’s what actual false equivalence looks like.
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            > Russian propaganda talking point.\n
            \n
            Ah yes, Russian propaganda point as reported by CNN back in 2014 [twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296](https://twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296)\n
            \n
            There’s even an hour long documentary from France on this [www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs)\n
            \n
            Pretending this just didn’t happen is the height of intellectual dishonesty.\n
            \n
            > Euromaidan was not a coup.\n
            \n
            Yes, it was and there’s overwhelming evidence for it.\n
            \n
            > Cite sources for the first point and military strategy analysts for the second.\n
            \n
            Are you just incapable of using google, I guess that would explain why you believe in nonsense. Here you go. First of all Russian economy is now rapidly growing while the west is going into a recession. This is not a country that’s showing any signs of being exhausted:\n
            \n
            - [newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-op…](https://www.newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-opinion-1861645)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-rosstat-2023-12-13/)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russian-factory-activity-expands-fa…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russian-factory-activity-expands-fastest-pace-seven-years-dec-pmi-2023-12-29/)\n
            \n
            and here’s some recent mainstream media reporting on the state of the war for you to chew on\n
            \n
            - [www.nytimes.com/2024/…/ukraine-russia-war.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/13/world/europe/ukraine-russia-war.html)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defen…](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defence-minister-says-2024-01-10/)\n
            - [lepoint.fr/…/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d…](https://www.lepoint.fr/monde/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d-une-debacle-05-01-2024-2549049_24.php)\n
            - [lemonde.fr/…/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-ex…](https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2023/09/27/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-express-discontent-i-repeatedly-told-them-nato-manuals-didn-t-apply_6140349_4.html)\n
            - [spiegel.de/…/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-…](https://www.spiegel.de/politik/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-deutschen-pannen-panzern-a-cd9421ae-4a96-4d4f-983a-6205a063ae15)\n
            - [archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73](https://archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73)\n
            - [telegraph.co.uk/…/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-…](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/12/27/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-tide-war-ukraine/)\n
            - [www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/…/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/ukraine-war-victory-hopes-dim-intl/index.html)\n
            - [cbc.ca/…/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232](https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232)\n
            \n
            and here’s some analysis from military strategists for you\n
            \n
            - [www.russiamatters.org/…/whats-ahead-war-ukraine](https://www.russiamatters.org/analysis/whats-ahead-war-ukraine)\n
            - […substack.com/…/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukra…](https://mearsheimer.substack.com/p/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukraine)\n
            - [rusi.org/…/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challeng…](https://www.rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challenges-and-innovations)\n
            \n
            Russia will win this war, and the only thing the west has achieved was to help destroy Ukraine by sabotaging negotiations in 2022.
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            Russian economy is growing while the west is going into a recession. [Russian factory activity grows at fastest pace in over six years](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-factory-activity-grows-fastest-pace-over-six-years-sept-pmi-2023-10-02/), meanwhile [while US manufacturing activity shrinks the most in three years.](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-07-03/us-manufacturing-activity-shrinks-by-most-in-three-years). UK now [can’t even make steel from raw materials.](https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/jan/18/tata-steel-to-shut-down-port-talbot-blast-furnaces-3000-jobs-at-risk)\n
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            The fact that the west was deeply involved in the coup is well documented even in western media\n
            \n
            - [quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukr…](https://www.quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukraines-2014-revolution-was-due-to-a-CIA-coup) ([archive.ph/BAxYc](https://archive.ph/BAxYc))\n
            - [consortiumnews.com/…/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-i…](https://consortiumnews.com/2022/12/29/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-in-kiev/)\n
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            The foundations of my beliefs are that the west saw itself as the winner of the cold war after USSR dissolved, and decided to renege on all the promises that were made in the 90s. This created increasing tensions with Russia, and eventually led to the war we’re seeing play out in Ukraine. This is a proxy war between NATO and Russia, and it’s following the script that [was outlined by RAND](https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR3063.html).\n
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            The west made a huge miscalculation thinking that it could defeat Russia militarily and economically, and now the whole thing is starting to backfire. NATO is finding that it lacks the industrial base to sustain the conflict. Russia managed to reroute its trade away from the west, which caused immeasurable economic damage to Europe. The world outside the G7 has been increasingly aligning towards Russia and China and away from the west. This proxy war is heralding the end of the unipolar moment that US enjoyed and ushering in multipolarity.\n
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            > I have been using Google for long enough to know that it often shows us what we want to see, not that which is most likely to be correct. :)\n
            \n
            Have you considered that this might be why you still think that Ukraine is winning despite all the evidence to the contrary?\n
            \n
            > Regarding Russian economic data you seem to be flaunting, Russia has made it hard for outside sources to verify any of it.\n
            \n
            Every mainstream western outlet, including the IMF, agrees that Russian economy is growing. No serious economists dispute this.\n
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            > You seem to derive a lot of your opinions from mearsheimer.substack.com source but the sources the author uses to prove your points often come from rt.com which is like, the worst source for this discussion.\n
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            Mearsheimer is just one example, and he is a preeminent political scientist in the US. The reality is that there is propaganda in the west just like there is in Russia, and western media often omits covering things that RT covers. Simply dismissing information based on the source is frankly absurd.\n
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            Incidentally, Mearsheimer gave an entire lecture back in 2014 predicting the events in Ukraine that are currently unfolding, seems to me that he might know what he’s talking about [www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4)\n
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            > I will, however, refrain from posting on lemmy.ml in the future, because I can see that you are a mod of several communities on this instance and your overall conduct in this post has been rather childish and disrespectful. I feel like mods should hold themselves to a higher standard.\n
            \n
            Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
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          +body: "After two years, it’s pretty clear that the west is not capable of doing anything of the sort. All the west managed to achieve was to ensure that hundreds of thousands of people died, and that Ukraine lost large parts of its territory in the process. We now have admissions from Ukrainian negotiators that a peace deal was close to being reached last March before the west sabotaged it."
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            The actual truth is that it’s NATO that’s been constantly expanding towards Russia. It’s also NATO that’s been invading and destroying countries since the end of USSR. Syria, Libya, and Yugoslavia being some prominent examples.\n
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            Meanwhile, Russia tried to resolve this situation diplomatically since 2008 with Minsk agreements that western leaders now openly admit were a delaying tactic by the west.\n
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            Finally, section IX of Ukraine’s 1990 Declaration of State Sovereignty states the following:\n
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            [The Ukrainian SSR solemnly declares its intention of becoming a permanently neutral state that does not participate in military blocs and adheres to three nuclear free principles: to accept, to produce and to purchase no nuclear weapons.](https://web.archive.org/web/20130615031823/https://static.rada.gov.ua/site/postanova_eng/Declaration_of_State_Sovereignty_of_Ukraine_rev1.htm)\n
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            The whole legal basis for the existence of state of Ukraine is predicated on Ukraine staying neutral and not joining military blocs. Ukraine broke the very basis of this agreement when it tried to join NATO.\n
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            Now, thanks to western “help”, Ukraine will lose far more territory than it would have if the deal was done last year, and it may even cease to exist as a state. I can’t wait for you to explain how this actually helps people of Ukraine.
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          +body: "NATO is an aggressive alliance that has invaded and destroyed numerous countries. The fact that you keep pretending that it’s a defensive alliance just shows how utterly dishonest you are."
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            > False equivalence.\n
            \n
            It’s not.\n
            \n
            > Because Russia attacked them.\n
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            No, Ukraine has been engaged in atrocities in Donbas since 2014 as even western media reported at the time.\n
            \n
            > It is in fact the opposite. No neutral country stays that way for long when Russia wants it’s territory.\n
            \n
            I see you have problems with reading comprehension.\n
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            > If the West had not helped, there would be no Ukraine either. We would be condemning them to a decade of guerilla warfare and oppression. Emboldened by his victory, Putin would look further west.\n
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            If the west didn’t run a coup to overthrow a democratically elected government then there would’ve been no troubles in Ukraine. Period.\n
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            > Ukrainians now fight Russia, both sides are getting exhausted and it all depends on what help Ukraine gets. Your magical peace treaty would just mean Russia trying this again in 5 years or less.\n
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            That’s complete and utter nonsense, and even western media now admits this.\n
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            > You could have used the same arguments to make peace with the Nazis in 1941 and the world would only be worse for it.\n
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            Now that’s what actual false equivalence looks like.
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            > Russian propaganda talking point.\n
            \n
            Ah yes, Russian propaganda point as reported by CNN back in 2014 [twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296](https://twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296)\n
            \n
            There’s even an hour long documentary from France on this [www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs)\n
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            Pretending this just didn’t happen is the height of intellectual dishonesty.\n
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            > Euromaidan was not a coup.\n
            \n
            Yes, it was and there’s overwhelming evidence for it.\n
            \n
            > Cite sources for the first point and military strategy analysts for the second.\n
            \n
            Are you just incapable of using google, I guess that would explain why you believe in nonsense. Here you go. First of all Russian economy is now rapidly growing while the west is going into a recession. This is not a country that’s showing any signs of being exhausted:\n
            \n
            - [newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-op…](https://www.newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-opinion-1861645)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-rosstat-2023-12-13/)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russian-factory-activity-expands-fa…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russian-factory-activity-expands-fastest-pace-seven-years-dec-pmi-2023-12-29/)\n
            \n
            and here’s some recent mainstream media reporting on the state of the war for you to chew on\n
            \n
            - [www.nytimes.com/2024/…/ukraine-russia-war.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/13/world/europe/ukraine-russia-war.html)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defen…](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defence-minister-says-2024-01-10/)\n
            - [lepoint.fr/…/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d…](https://www.lepoint.fr/monde/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d-une-debacle-05-01-2024-2549049_24.php)\n
            - [lemonde.fr/…/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-ex…](https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2023/09/27/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-express-discontent-i-repeatedly-told-them-nato-manuals-didn-t-apply_6140349_4.html)\n
            - [spiegel.de/…/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-…](https://www.spiegel.de/politik/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-deutschen-pannen-panzern-a-cd9421ae-4a96-4d4f-983a-6205a063ae15)\n
            - [archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73](https://archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73)\n
            - [telegraph.co.uk/…/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-…](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/12/27/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-tide-war-ukraine/)\n
            - [www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/…/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/ukraine-war-victory-hopes-dim-intl/index.html)\n
            - [cbc.ca/…/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232](https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232)\n
            \n
            and here’s some analysis from military strategists for you\n
            \n
            - [www.russiamatters.org/…/whats-ahead-war-ukraine](https://www.russiamatters.org/analysis/whats-ahead-war-ukraine)\n
            - […substack.com/…/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukra…](https://mearsheimer.substack.com/p/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukraine)\n
            - [rusi.org/…/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challeng…](https://www.rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challenges-and-innovations)\n
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            Russia will win this war, and the only thing the west has achieved was to help destroy Ukraine by sabotaging negotiations in 2022.
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          +body: "No, I’m saying that anybody can type in words NATO and Yugoslavia or NATO and Libya into Google and see that you’re a liar."
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            Russian economy is growing while the west is going into a recession. [Russian factory activity grows at fastest pace in over six years](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-factory-activity-grows-fastest-pace-over-six-years-sept-pmi-2023-10-02/), meanwhile [while US manufacturing activity shrinks the most in three years.](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-07-03/us-manufacturing-activity-shrinks-by-most-in-three-years). UK now [can’t even make steel from raw materials.](https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/jan/18/tata-steel-to-shut-down-port-talbot-blast-furnaces-3000-jobs-at-risk)\n
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            Yes, people still bleat about a weaker Russia. 🤡
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            The fact that the west was deeply involved in the coup is well documented even in western media\n
            \n
            - [quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukr…](https://www.quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukraines-2014-revolution-was-due-to-a-CIA-coup) ([archive.ph/BAxYc](https://archive.ph/BAxYc))\n
            - [consortiumnews.com/…/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-i…](https://consortiumnews.com/2022/12/29/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-in-kiev/)\n
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            The foundations of my beliefs are that the west saw itself as the winner of the cold war after USSR dissolved, and decided to renege on all the promises that were made in the 90s. This created increasing tensions with Russia, and eventually led to the war we’re seeing play out in Ukraine. This is a proxy war between NATO and Russia, and it’s following the script that [was outlined by RAND](https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR3063.html).\n
            \n
            The west made a huge miscalculation thinking that it could defeat Russia militarily and economically, and now the whole thing is starting to backfire. NATO is finding that it lacks the industrial base to sustain the conflict. Russia managed to reroute its trade away from the west, which caused immeasurable economic damage to Europe. The world outside the G7 has been increasingly aligning towards Russia and China and away from the west. This proxy war is heralding the end of the unipolar moment that US enjoyed and ushering in multipolarity.\n
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            > I have been using Google for long enough to know that it often shows us what we want to see, not that which is most likely to be correct. :)\n
            \n
            Have you considered that this might be why you still think that Ukraine is winning despite all the evidence to the contrary?\n
            \n
            > Regarding Russian economic data you seem to be flaunting, Russia has made it hard for outside sources to verify any of it.\n
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            Every mainstream western outlet, including the IMF, agrees that Russian economy is growing. No serious economists dispute this.\n
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            > You seem to derive a lot of your opinions from mearsheimer.substack.com source but the sources the author uses to prove your points often come from rt.com which is like, the worst source for this discussion.\n
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            Mearsheimer is just one example, and he is a preeminent political scientist in the US. The reality is that there is propaganda in the west just like there is in Russia, and western media often omits covering things that RT covers. Simply dismissing information based on the source is frankly absurd.\n
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            Now, thanks to western “help”, Ukraine will lose far more territory than it would have if the deal was done last year, and it may even cease to exist as a state. I can’t wait for you to explain how this actually helps people of Ukraine.
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          +body: "NATO is an aggressive alliance that has invaded and destroyed numerous countries. The fact that you keep pretending that it’s a defensive alliance just shows how utterly dishonest you are."
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            > False equivalence.\n
            \n
            It’s not.\n
            \n
            > Because Russia attacked them.\n
            \n
            No, Ukraine has been engaged in atrocities in Donbas since 2014 as even western media reported at the time.\n
            \n
            > It is in fact the opposite. No neutral country stays that way for long when Russia wants it’s territory.\n
            \n
            I see you have problems with reading comprehension.\n
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            > If the West had not helped, there would be no Ukraine either. We would be condemning them to a decade of guerilla warfare and oppression. Emboldened by his victory, Putin would look further west.\n
            \n
            If the west didn’t run a coup to overthrow a democratically elected government then there would’ve been no troubles in Ukraine. Period.\n
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            > Ukrainians now fight Russia, both sides are getting exhausted and it all depends on what help Ukraine gets. Your magical peace treaty would just mean Russia trying this again in 5 years or less.\n
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            That’s complete and utter nonsense, and even western media now admits this.\n
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            > You could have used the same arguments to make peace with the Nazis in 1941 and the world would only be worse for it.\n
            \n
            Now that’s what actual false equivalence looks like.
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            > Russian propaganda talking point.\n
            \n
            Ah yes, Russian propaganda point as reported by CNN back in 2014 [twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296](https://twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296)\n
            \n
            There’s even an hour long documentary from France on this [www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs)\n
            \n
            Pretending this just didn’t happen is the height of intellectual dishonesty.\n
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            > Euromaidan was not a coup.\n
            \n
            Yes, it was and there’s overwhelming evidence for it.\n
            \n
            > Cite sources for the first point and military strategy analysts for the second.\n
            \n
            Are you just incapable of using google, I guess that would explain why you believe in nonsense. Here you go. First of all Russian economy is now rapidly growing while the west is going into a recession. This is not a country that’s showing any signs of being exhausted:\n
            \n
            - [newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-op…](https://www.newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-opinion-1861645)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-rosstat-2023-12-13/)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russian-factory-activity-expands-fa…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russian-factory-activity-expands-fastest-pace-seven-years-dec-pmi-2023-12-29/)\n
            \n
            and here’s some recent mainstream media reporting on the state of the war for you to chew on\n
            \n
            - [www.nytimes.com/2024/…/ukraine-russia-war.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/13/world/europe/ukraine-russia-war.html)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defen…](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defence-minister-says-2024-01-10/)\n
            - [lepoint.fr/…/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d…](https://www.lepoint.fr/monde/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d-une-debacle-05-01-2024-2549049_24.php)\n
            - [lemonde.fr/…/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-ex…](https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2023/09/27/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-express-discontent-i-repeatedly-told-them-nato-manuals-didn-t-apply_6140349_4.html)\n
            - [spiegel.de/…/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-…](https://www.spiegel.de/politik/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-deutschen-pannen-panzern-a-cd9421ae-4a96-4d4f-983a-6205a063ae15)\n
            - [archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73](https://archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73)\n
            - [telegraph.co.uk/…/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-…](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/12/27/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-tide-war-ukraine/)\n
            - [www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/…/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/ukraine-war-victory-hopes-dim-intl/index.html)\n
            - [cbc.ca/…/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232](https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232)\n
            \n
            and here’s some analysis from military strategists for you\n
            \n
            - [www.russiamatters.org/…/whats-ahead-war-ukraine](https://www.russiamatters.org/analysis/whats-ahead-war-ukraine)\n
            - […substack.com/…/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukra…](https://mearsheimer.substack.com/p/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukraine)\n
            - [rusi.org/…/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challeng…](https://www.rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challenges-and-innovations)\n
            \n
            Russia will win this war, and the only thing the west has achieved was to help destroy Ukraine by sabotaging negotiations in 2022.
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            Russian economy is growing while the west is going into a recession. [Russian factory activity grows at fastest pace in over six years](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-factory-activity-grows-fastest-pace-over-six-years-sept-pmi-2023-10-02/), meanwhile [while US manufacturing activity shrinks the most in three years.](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-07-03/us-manufacturing-activity-shrinks-by-most-in-three-years). UK now [can’t even make steel from raw materials.](https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/jan/18/tata-steel-to-shut-down-port-talbot-blast-furnaces-3000-jobs-at-risk)\n
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            Yes, people still bleat about a weaker Russia. 🤡
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            The fact that the west was deeply involved in the coup is well documented even in western media\n
            \n
            - [quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukr…](https://www.quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukraines-2014-revolution-was-due-to-a-CIA-coup) ([archive.ph/BAxYc](https://archive.ph/BAxYc))\n
            - [consortiumnews.com/…/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-i…](https://consortiumnews.com/2022/12/29/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-in-kiev/)\n
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            The foundations of my beliefs are that the west saw itself as the winner of the cold war after USSR dissolved, and decided to renege on all the promises that were made in the 90s. This created increasing tensions with Russia, and eventually led to the war we’re seeing play out in Ukraine. This is a proxy war between NATO and Russia, and it’s following the script that [was outlined by RAND](https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR3063.html).\n
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            The west made a huge miscalculation thinking that it could defeat Russia militarily and economically, and now the whole thing is starting to backfire. NATO is finding that it lacks the industrial base to sustain the conflict. Russia managed to reroute its trade away from the west, which caused immeasurable economic damage to Europe. The world outside the G7 has been increasingly aligning towards Russia and China and away from the west. This proxy war is heralding the end of the unipolar moment that US enjoyed and ushering in multipolarity.\n
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            > I have been using Google for long enough to know that it often shows us what we want to see, not that which is most likely to be correct. :)\n
            \n
            Have you considered that this might be why you still think that Ukraine is winning despite all the evidence to the contrary?\n
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            > Regarding Russian economic data you seem to be flaunting, Russia has made it hard for outside sources to verify any of it.\n
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            Every mainstream western outlet, including the IMF, agrees that Russian economy is growing. No serious economists dispute this.\n
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            > You seem to derive a lot of your opinions from mearsheimer.substack.com source but the sources the author uses to prove your points often come from rt.com which is like, the worst source for this discussion.\n
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            Mearsheimer is just one example, and he is a preeminent political scientist in the US. The reality is that there is propaganda in the west just like there is in Russia, and western media often omits covering things that RT covers. Simply dismissing information based on the source is frankly absurd.\n
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            Incidentally, Mearsheimer gave an entire lecture back in 2014 predicting the events in Ukraine that are currently unfolding, seems to me that he might know what he’s talking about [www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4)\n
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            > I will, however, refrain from posting on lemmy.ml in the future, because I can see that you are a mod of several communities on this instance and your overall conduct in this post has been rather childish and disrespectful. I feel like mods should hold themselves to a higher standard.\n
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            Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
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            The actual truth is that it’s NATO that’s been constantly expanding towards Russia. It’s also NATO that’s been invading and destroying countries since the end of USSR. Syria, Libya, and Yugoslavia being some prominent examples.\n
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            > False equivalence.\n
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            It’s not.\n
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            > Because Russia attacked them.\n
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            Now that’s what actual false equivalence looks like.
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            > Russian propaganda talking point.\n
            \n
            Ah yes, Russian propaganda point as reported by CNN back in 2014 [twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296](https://twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296)\n
            \n
            There’s even an hour long documentary from France on this [www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs)\n
            \n
            Pretending this just didn’t happen is the height of intellectual dishonesty.\n
            \n
            > Euromaidan was not a coup.\n
            \n
            Yes, it was and there’s overwhelming evidence for it.\n
            \n
            > Cite sources for the first point and military strategy analysts for the second.\n
            \n
            Are you just incapable of using google, I guess that would explain why you believe in nonsense. Here you go. First of all Russian economy is now rapidly growing while the west is going into a recession. This is not a country that’s showing any signs of being exhausted:\n
            \n
            - [newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-op…](https://www.newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-opinion-1861645)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-rosstat-2023-12-13/)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russian-factory-activity-expands-fa…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russian-factory-activity-expands-fastest-pace-seven-years-dec-pmi-2023-12-29/)\n
            \n
            and here’s some recent mainstream media reporting on the state of the war for you to chew on\n
            \n
            - [www.nytimes.com/2024/…/ukraine-russia-war.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/13/world/europe/ukraine-russia-war.html)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defen…](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defence-minister-says-2024-01-10/)\n
            - [lepoint.fr/…/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d…](https://www.lepoint.fr/monde/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d-une-debacle-05-01-2024-2549049_24.php)\n
            - [lemonde.fr/…/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-ex…](https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2023/09/27/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-express-discontent-i-repeatedly-told-them-nato-manuals-didn-t-apply_6140349_4.html)\n
            - [spiegel.de/…/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-…](https://www.spiegel.de/politik/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-deutschen-pannen-panzern-a-cd9421ae-4a96-4d4f-983a-6205a063ae15)\n
            - [archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73](https://archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73)\n
            - [telegraph.co.uk/…/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-…](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/12/27/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-tide-war-ukraine/)\n
            - [www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/…/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/ukraine-war-victory-hopes-dim-intl/index.html)\n
            - [cbc.ca/…/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232](https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232)\n
            \n
            and here’s some analysis from military strategists for you\n
            \n
            - [www.russiamatters.org/…/whats-ahead-war-ukraine](https://www.russiamatters.org/analysis/whats-ahead-war-ukraine)\n
            - […substack.com/…/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukra…](https://mearsheimer.substack.com/p/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukraine)\n
            - [rusi.org/…/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challeng…](https://www.rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challenges-and-innovations)\n
            \n
            Russia will win this war, and the only thing the west has achieved was to help destroy Ukraine by sabotaging negotiations in 2022.
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            Russian economy is growing while the west is going into a recession. [Russian factory activity grows at fastest pace in over six years](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-factory-activity-grows-fastest-pace-over-six-years-sept-pmi-2023-10-02/), meanwhile [while US manufacturing activity shrinks the most in three years.](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-07-03/us-manufacturing-activity-shrinks-by-most-in-three-years). UK now [can’t even make steel from raw materials.](https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/jan/18/tata-steel-to-shut-down-port-talbot-blast-furnaces-3000-jobs-at-risk)\n
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            The fact that the west was deeply involved in the coup is well documented even in western media\n
            \n
            - [quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukr…](https://www.quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukraines-2014-revolution-was-due-to-a-CIA-coup) ([archive.ph/BAxYc](https://archive.ph/BAxYc))\n
            - [consortiumnews.com/…/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-i…](https://consortiumnews.com/2022/12/29/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-in-kiev/)\n
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            The foundations of my beliefs are that the west saw itself as the winner of the cold war after USSR dissolved, and decided to renege on all the promises that were made in the 90s. This created increasing tensions with Russia, and eventually led to the war we’re seeing play out in Ukraine. This is a proxy war between NATO and Russia, and it’s following the script that [was outlined by RAND](https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR3063.html).\n
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            The west made a huge miscalculation thinking that it could defeat Russia militarily and economically, and now the whole thing is starting to backfire. NATO is finding that it lacks the industrial base to sustain the conflict. Russia managed to reroute its trade away from the west, which caused immeasurable economic damage to Europe. The world outside the G7 has been increasingly aligning towards Russia and China and away from the west. This proxy war is heralding the end of the unipolar moment that US enjoyed and ushering in multipolarity.\n
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            > I have been using Google for long enough to know that it often shows us what we want to see, not that which is most likely to be correct. :)\n
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            Have you considered that this might be why you still think that Ukraine is winning despite all the evidence to the contrary?\n
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            > Regarding Russian economic data you seem to be flaunting, Russia has made it hard for outside sources to verify any of it.\n
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            Every mainstream western outlet, including the IMF, agrees that Russian economy is growing. No serious economists dispute this.\n
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            > You seem to derive a lot of your opinions from mearsheimer.substack.com source but the sources the author uses to prove your points often come from rt.com which is like, the worst source for this discussion.\n
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            Mearsheimer is just one example, and he is a preeminent political scientist in the US. The reality is that there is propaganda in the west just like there is in Russia, and western media often omits covering things that RT covers. Simply dismissing information based on the source is frankly absurd.\n
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            Incidentally, Mearsheimer gave an entire lecture back in 2014 predicting the events in Ukraine that are currently unfolding, seems to me that he might know what he’s talking about [www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4)\n
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            > I will, however, refrain from posting on lemmy.ml in the future, because I can see that you are a mod of several communities on this instance and your overall conduct in this post has been rather childish and disrespectful. I feel like mods should hold themselves to a higher standard.\n
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            Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
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          +body: "After two years, it’s pretty clear that the west is not capable of doing anything of the sort. All the west managed to achieve was to ensure that hundreds of thousands of people died, and that Ukraine lost large parts of its territory in the process. We now have admissions from Ukrainian negotiators that a peace deal was close to being reached last March before the west sabotaged it."
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            The actual truth is that it’s NATO that’s been constantly expanding towards Russia. It’s also NATO that’s been invading and destroying countries since the end of USSR. Syria, Libya, and Yugoslavia being some prominent examples.\n
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            Meanwhile, Russia tried to resolve this situation diplomatically since 2008 with Minsk agreements that western leaders now openly admit were a delaying tactic by the west.\n
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            Finally, section IX of Ukraine’s 1990 Declaration of State Sovereignty states the following:\n
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            The whole legal basis for the existence of state of Ukraine is predicated on Ukraine staying neutral and not joining military blocs. Ukraine broke the very basis of this agreement when it tried to join NATO.\n
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            Now, thanks to western “help”, Ukraine will lose far more territory than it would have if the deal was done last year, and it may even cease to exist as a state. I can’t wait for you to explain how this actually helps people of Ukraine.
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          +body: "NATO is an aggressive alliance that has invaded and destroyed numerous countries. The fact that you keep pretending that it’s a defensive alliance just shows how utterly dishonest you are."
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            > False equivalence.\n
            \n
            It’s not.\n
            \n
            > Because Russia attacked them.\n
            \n
            No, Ukraine has been engaged in atrocities in Donbas since 2014 as even western media reported at the time.\n
            \n
            > It is in fact the opposite. No neutral country stays that way for long when Russia wants it’s territory.\n
            \n
            I see you have problems with reading comprehension.\n
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            > If the West had not helped, there would be no Ukraine either. We would be condemning them to a decade of guerilla warfare and oppression. Emboldened by his victory, Putin would look further west.\n
            \n
            If the west didn’t run a coup to overthrow a democratically elected government then there would’ve been no troubles in Ukraine. Period.\n
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            > Ukrainians now fight Russia, both sides are getting exhausted and it all depends on what help Ukraine gets. Your magical peace treaty would just mean Russia trying this again in 5 years or less.\n
            \n
            That’s complete and utter nonsense, and even western media now admits this.\n
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            > You could have used the same arguments to make peace with the Nazis in 1941 and the world would only be worse for it.\n
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            Now that’s what actual false equivalence looks like.
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            > Russian propaganda talking point.\n
            \n
            Ah yes, Russian propaganda point as reported by CNN back in 2014 [twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296](https://twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296)\n
            \n
            There’s even an hour long documentary from France on this [www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs)\n
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            Pretending this just didn’t happen is the height of intellectual dishonesty.\n
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            > Euromaidan was not a coup.\n
            \n
            Yes, it was and there’s overwhelming evidence for it.\n
            \n
            > Cite sources for the first point and military strategy analysts for the second.\n
            \n
            Are you just incapable of using google, I guess that would explain why you believe in nonsense. Here you go. First of all Russian economy is now rapidly growing while the west is going into a recession. This is not a country that’s showing any signs of being exhausted:\n
            \n
            - [newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-op…](https://www.newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-opinion-1861645)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-rosstat-2023-12-13/)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russian-factory-activity-expands-fa…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russian-factory-activity-expands-fastest-pace-seven-years-dec-pmi-2023-12-29/)\n
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            and here’s some recent mainstream media reporting on the state of the war for you to chew on\n
            \n
            - [www.nytimes.com/2024/…/ukraine-russia-war.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/13/world/europe/ukraine-russia-war.html)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defen…](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defence-minister-says-2024-01-10/)\n
            - [lepoint.fr/…/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d…](https://www.lepoint.fr/monde/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d-une-debacle-05-01-2024-2549049_24.php)\n
            - [lemonde.fr/…/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-ex…](https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2023/09/27/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-express-discontent-i-repeatedly-told-them-nato-manuals-didn-t-apply_6140349_4.html)\n
            - [spiegel.de/…/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-…](https://www.spiegel.de/politik/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-deutschen-pannen-panzern-a-cd9421ae-4a96-4d4f-983a-6205a063ae15)\n
            - [archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73](https://archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73)\n
            - [telegraph.co.uk/…/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-…](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/12/27/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-tide-war-ukraine/)\n
            - [www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/…/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/ukraine-war-victory-hopes-dim-intl/index.html)\n
            - [cbc.ca/…/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232](https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232)\n
            \n
            and here’s some analysis from military strategists for you\n
            \n
            - [www.russiamatters.org/…/whats-ahead-war-ukraine](https://www.russiamatters.org/analysis/whats-ahead-war-ukraine)\n
            - […substack.com/…/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukra…](https://mearsheimer.substack.com/p/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukraine)\n
            - [rusi.org/…/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challeng…](https://www.rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challenges-and-innovations)\n
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            Russia will win this war, and the only thing the west has achieved was to help destroy Ukraine by sabotaging negotiations in 2022.
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            Russian economy is growing while the west is going into a recession. [Russian factory activity grows at fastest pace in over six years](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-factory-activity-grows-fastest-pace-over-six-years-sept-pmi-2023-10-02/), meanwhile [while US manufacturing activity shrinks the most in three years.](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-07-03/us-manufacturing-activity-shrinks-by-most-in-three-years). UK now [can’t even make steel from raw materials.](https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/jan/18/tata-steel-to-shut-down-port-talbot-blast-furnaces-3000-jobs-at-risk)\n
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            The fact that the west was deeply involved in the coup is well documented even in western media\n
            \n
            - [quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukr…](https://www.quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukraines-2014-revolution-was-due-to-a-CIA-coup) ([archive.ph/BAxYc](https://archive.ph/BAxYc))\n
            - [consortiumnews.com/…/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-i…](https://consortiumnews.com/2022/12/29/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-in-kiev/)\n
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            The foundations of my beliefs are that the west saw itself as the winner of the cold war after USSR dissolved, and decided to renege on all the promises that were made in the 90s. This created increasing tensions with Russia, and eventually led to the war we’re seeing play out in Ukraine. This is a proxy war between NATO and Russia, and it’s following the script that [was outlined by RAND](https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR3063.html).\n
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            The west made a huge miscalculation thinking that it could defeat Russia militarily and economically, and now the whole thing is starting to backfire. NATO is finding that it lacks the industrial base to sustain the conflict. Russia managed to reroute its trade away from the west, which caused immeasurable economic damage to Europe. The world outside the G7 has been increasingly aligning towards Russia and China and away from the west. This proxy war is heralding the end of the unipolar moment that US enjoyed and ushering in multipolarity.\n
            \n
            > I have been using Google for long enough to know that it often shows us what we want to see, not that which is most likely to be correct. :)\n
            \n
            Have you considered that this might be why you still think that Ukraine is winning despite all the evidence to the contrary?\n
            \n
            > Regarding Russian economic data you seem to be flaunting, Russia has made it hard for outside sources to verify any of it.\n
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            Every mainstream western outlet, including the IMF, agrees that Russian economy is growing. No serious economists dispute this.\n
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            > You seem to derive a lot of your opinions from mearsheimer.substack.com source but the sources the author uses to prove your points often come from rt.com which is like, the worst source for this discussion.\n
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            Mearsheimer is just one example, and he is a preeminent political scientist in the US. The reality is that there is propaganda in the west just like there is in Russia, and western media often omits covering things that RT covers. Simply dismissing information based on the source is frankly absurd.\n
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            Incidentally, Mearsheimer gave an entire lecture back in 2014 predicting the events in Ukraine that are currently unfolding, seems to me that he might know what he’s talking about [www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4)\n
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            > I will, however, refrain from posting on lemmy.ml in the future, because I can see that you are a mod of several communities on this instance and your overall conduct in this post has been rather childish and disrespectful. I feel like mods should hold themselves to a higher standard.\n
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            Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
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            The actual truth is that it’s NATO that’s been constantly expanding towards Russia. It’s also NATO that’s been invading and destroying countries since the end of USSR. Syria, Libya, and Yugoslavia being some prominent examples.\n
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            Meanwhile, Russia tried to resolve this situation diplomatically since 2008 with Minsk agreements that western leaders now openly admit were a delaying tactic by the west.\n
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            Finally, section IX of Ukraine’s 1990 Declaration of State Sovereignty states the following:\n
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            [The Ukrainian SSR solemnly declares its intention of becoming a permanently neutral state that does not participate in military blocs and adheres to three nuclear free principles: to accept, to produce and to purchase no nuclear weapons.](https://web.archive.org/web/20130615031823/https://static.rada.gov.ua/site/postanova_eng/Declaration_of_State_Sovereignty_of_Ukraine_rev1.htm)\n
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            The whole legal basis for the existence of state of Ukraine is predicated on Ukraine staying neutral and not joining military blocs. Ukraine broke the very basis of this agreement when it tried to join NATO.\n
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            Now, thanks to western “help”, Ukraine will lose far more territory than it would have if the deal was done last year, and it may even cease to exist as a state. I can’t wait for you to explain how this actually helps people of Ukraine.
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          +body: "NATO is an aggressive alliance that has invaded and destroyed numerous countries. The fact that you keep pretending that it’s a defensive alliance just shows how utterly dishonest you are."
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            > False equivalence.\n
            \n
            It’s not.\n
            \n
            > Because Russia attacked them.\n
            \n
            No, Ukraine has been engaged in atrocities in Donbas since 2014 as even western media reported at the time.\n
            \n
            > It is in fact the opposite. No neutral country stays that way for long when Russia wants it’s territory.\n
            \n
            I see you have problems with reading comprehension.\n
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            > If the West had not helped, there would be no Ukraine either. We would be condemning them to a decade of guerilla warfare and oppression. Emboldened by his victory, Putin would look further west.\n
            \n
            If the west didn’t run a coup to overthrow a democratically elected government then there would’ve been no troubles in Ukraine. Period.\n
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            > Ukrainians now fight Russia, both sides are getting exhausted and it all depends on what help Ukraine gets. Your magical peace treaty would just mean Russia trying this again in 5 years or less.\n
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            That’s complete and utter nonsense, and even western media now admits this.\n
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            > You could have used the same arguments to make peace with the Nazis in 1941 and the world would only be worse for it.\n
            \n
            Now that’s what actual false equivalence looks like.
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            > Russian propaganda talking point.\n
            \n
            Ah yes, Russian propaganda point as reported by CNN back in 2014 [twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296](https://twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296)\n
            \n
            There’s even an hour long documentary from France on this [www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs)\n
            \n
            Pretending this just didn’t happen is the height of intellectual dishonesty.\n
            \n
            > Euromaidan was not a coup.\n
            \n
            Yes, it was and there’s overwhelming evidence for it.\n
            \n
            > Cite sources for the first point and military strategy analysts for the second.\n
            \n
            Are you just incapable of using google, I guess that would explain why you believe in nonsense. Here you go. First of all Russian economy is now rapidly growing while the west is going into a recession. This is not a country that’s showing any signs of being exhausted:\n
            \n
            - [newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-op…](https://www.newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-opinion-1861645)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-rosstat-2023-12-13/)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russian-factory-activity-expands-fa…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russian-factory-activity-expands-fastest-pace-seven-years-dec-pmi-2023-12-29/)\n
            \n
            and here’s some recent mainstream media reporting on the state of the war for you to chew on\n
            \n
            - [www.nytimes.com/2024/…/ukraine-russia-war.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/13/world/europe/ukraine-russia-war.html)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defen…](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defence-minister-says-2024-01-10/)\n
            - [lepoint.fr/…/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d…](https://www.lepoint.fr/monde/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d-une-debacle-05-01-2024-2549049_24.php)\n
            - [lemonde.fr/…/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-ex…](https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2023/09/27/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-express-discontent-i-repeatedly-told-them-nato-manuals-didn-t-apply_6140349_4.html)\n
            - [spiegel.de/…/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-…](https://www.spiegel.de/politik/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-deutschen-pannen-panzern-a-cd9421ae-4a96-4d4f-983a-6205a063ae15)\n
            - [archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73](https://archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73)\n
            - [telegraph.co.uk/…/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-…](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/12/27/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-tide-war-ukraine/)\n
            - [www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/…/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/ukraine-war-victory-hopes-dim-intl/index.html)\n
            - [cbc.ca/…/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232](https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232)\n
            \n
            and here’s some analysis from military strategists for you\n
            \n
            - [www.russiamatters.org/…/whats-ahead-war-ukraine](https://www.russiamatters.org/analysis/whats-ahead-war-ukraine)\n
            - […substack.com/…/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukra…](https://mearsheimer.substack.com/p/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukraine)\n
            - [rusi.org/…/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challeng…](https://www.rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challenges-and-innovations)\n
            \n
            Russia will win this war, and the only thing the west has achieved was to help destroy Ukraine by sabotaging negotiations in 2022.
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          +body: "Share a source for NATO invading Yugoslavia, Libya, Syria, and Afghanistan, is that what you’re asking there little buddy?"
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            Russian economy is growing while the west is going into a recession. [Russian factory activity grows at fastest pace in over six years](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-factory-activity-grows-fastest-pace-over-six-years-sept-pmi-2023-10-02/), meanwhile [while US manufacturing activity shrinks the most in three years.](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-07-03/us-manufacturing-activity-shrinks-by-most-in-three-years). UK now [can’t even make steel from raw materials.](https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/jan/18/tata-steel-to-shut-down-port-talbot-blast-furnaces-3000-jobs-at-risk)\n
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            Yes, people still bleat about a weaker Russia. 🤡
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          +body: "Here’s an idea go sign up as a volunteer in Ukraine and fight yourself instead of cheering on for other people to die for you, you disgusting sack of shit."
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            The fact that the west was deeply involved in the coup is well documented even in western media\n
            \n
            - [quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukr…](https://www.quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukraines-2014-revolution-was-due-to-a-CIA-coup) ([archive.ph/BAxYc](https://archive.ph/BAxYc))\n
            - [consortiumnews.com/…/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-i…](https://consortiumnews.com/2022/12/29/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-in-kiev/)\n
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            The foundations of my beliefs are that the west saw itself as the winner of the cold war after USSR dissolved, and decided to renege on all the promises that were made in the 90s. This created increasing tensions with Russia, and eventually led to the war we’re seeing play out in Ukraine. This is a proxy war between NATO and Russia, and it’s following the script that [was outlined by RAND](https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR3063.html).\n
            \n
            The west made a huge miscalculation thinking that it could defeat Russia militarily and economically, and now the whole thing is starting to backfire. NATO is finding that it lacks the industrial base to sustain the conflict. Russia managed to reroute its trade away from the west, which caused immeasurable economic damage to Europe. The world outside the G7 has been increasingly aligning towards Russia and China and away from the west. This proxy war is heralding the end of the unipolar moment that US enjoyed and ushering in multipolarity.\n
            \n
            > I have been using Google for long enough to know that it often shows us what we want to see, not that which is most likely to be correct. :)\n
            \n
            Have you considered that this might be why you still think that Ukraine is winning despite all the evidence to the contrary?\n
            \n
            > Regarding Russian economic data you seem to be flaunting, Russia has made it hard for outside sources to verify any of it.\n
            \n
            Every mainstream western outlet, including the IMF, agrees that Russian economy is growing. No serious economists dispute this.\n
            \n
            > You seem to derive a lot of your opinions from mearsheimer.substack.com source but the sources the author uses to prove your points often come from rt.com which is like, the worst source for this discussion.\n
            \n
            Mearsheimer is just one example, and he is a preeminent political scientist in the US. The reality is that there is propaganda in the west just like there is in Russia, and western media often omits covering things that RT covers. Simply dismissing information based on the source is frankly absurd.\n
            \n
            Incidentally, Mearsheimer gave an entire lecture back in 2014 predicting the events in Ukraine that are currently unfolding, seems to me that he might know what he’s talking about [www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4)\n
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            > I will, however, refrain from posting on lemmy.ml in the future, because I can see that you are a mod of several communities on this instance and your overall conduct in this post has been rather childish and disrespectful. I feel like mods should hold themselves to a higher standard.\n
            \n
            Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
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          +body: "NATO is an aggressive alliance that has invaded and destroyed numerous countries. The fact that you keep pretending that it’s a defensive alliance just shows how utterly dishonest you are."
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            > False equivalence.\n
            \n
            It’s not.\n
            \n
            > Because Russia attacked them.\n
            \n
            No, Ukraine has been engaged in atrocities in Donbas since 2014 as even western media reported at the time.\n
            \n
            > It is in fact the opposite. No neutral country stays that way for long when Russia wants it’s territory.\n
            \n
            I see you have problems with reading comprehension.\n
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            > If the West had not helped, there would be no Ukraine either. We would be condemning them to a decade of guerilla warfare and oppression. Emboldened by his victory, Putin would look further west.\n
            \n
            If the west didn’t run a coup to overthrow a democratically elected government then there would’ve been no troubles in Ukraine. Period.\n
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            > Ukrainians now fight Russia, both sides are getting exhausted and it all depends on what help Ukraine gets. Your magical peace treaty would just mean Russia trying this again in 5 years or less.\n
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            That’s complete and utter nonsense, and even western media now admits this.\n
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            > You could have used the same arguments to make peace with the Nazis in 1941 and the world would only be worse for it.\n
            \n
            Now that’s what actual false equivalence looks like.
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            > Russian propaganda talking point.\n
            \n
            Ah yes, Russian propaganda point as reported by CNN back in 2014 [twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296](https://twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296)\n
            \n
            There’s even an hour long documentary from France on this [www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs)\n
            \n
            Pretending this just didn’t happen is the height of intellectual dishonesty.\n
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            > Euromaidan was not a coup.\n
            \n
            Yes, it was and there’s overwhelming evidence for it.\n
            \n
            > Cite sources for the first point and military strategy analysts for the second.\n
            \n
            Are you just incapable of using google, I guess that would explain why you believe in nonsense. Here you go. First of all Russian economy is now rapidly growing while the west is going into a recession. This is not a country that’s showing any signs of being exhausted:\n
            \n
            - [newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-op…](https://www.newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-opinion-1861645)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-rosstat-2023-12-13/)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russian-factory-activity-expands-fa…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russian-factory-activity-expands-fastest-pace-seven-years-dec-pmi-2023-12-29/)\n
            \n
            and here’s some recent mainstream media reporting on the state of the war for you to chew on\n
            \n
            - [www.nytimes.com/2024/…/ukraine-russia-war.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/13/world/europe/ukraine-russia-war.html)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defen…](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defence-minister-says-2024-01-10/)\n
            - [lepoint.fr/…/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d…](https://www.lepoint.fr/monde/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d-une-debacle-05-01-2024-2549049_24.php)\n
            - [lemonde.fr/…/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-ex…](https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2023/09/27/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-express-discontent-i-repeatedly-told-them-nato-manuals-didn-t-apply_6140349_4.html)\n
            - [spiegel.de/…/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-…](https://www.spiegel.de/politik/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-deutschen-pannen-panzern-a-cd9421ae-4a96-4d4f-983a-6205a063ae15)\n
            - [archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73](https://archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73)\n
            - [telegraph.co.uk/…/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-…](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/12/27/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-tide-war-ukraine/)\n
            - [www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/…/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/ukraine-war-victory-hopes-dim-intl/index.html)\n
            - [cbc.ca/…/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232](https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232)\n
            \n
            and here’s some analysis from military strategists for you\n
            \n
            - [www.russiamatters.org/…/whats-ahead-war-ukraine](https://www.russiamatters.org/analysis/whats-ahead-war-ukraine)\n
            - […substack.com/…/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukra…](https://mearsheimer.substack.com/p/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukraine)\n
            - [rusi.org/…/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challeng…](https://www.rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challenges-and-innovations)\n
            \n
            Russia will win this war, and the only thing the west has achieved was to help destroy Ukraine by sabotaging negotiations in 2022.
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            Russian economy is growing while the west is going into a recession. [Russian factory activity grows at fastest pace in over six years](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-factory-activity-grows-fastest-pace-over-six-years-sept-pmi-2023-10-02/), meanwhile [while US manufacturing activity shrinks the most in three years.](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-07-03/us-manufacturing-activity-shrinks-by-most-in-three-years). UK now [can’t even make steel from raw materials.](https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/jan/18/tata-steel-to-shut-down-port-talbot-blast-furnaces-3000-jobs-at-risk)\n
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            Yes, people still bleat about a weaker Russia. 🤡
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            The fact that the west was deeply involved in the coup is well documented even in western media\n
            \n
            - [quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukr…](https://www.quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukraines-2014-revolution-was-due-to-a-CIA-coup) ([archive.ph/BAxYc](https://archive.ph/BAxYc))\n
            - [consortiumnews.com/…/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-i…](https://consortiumnews.com/2022/12/29/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-in-kiev/)\n
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            The foundations of my beliefs are that the west saw itself as the winner of the cold war after USSR dissolved, and decided to renege on all the promises that were made in the 90s. This created increasing tensions with Russia, and eventually led to the war we’re seeing play out in Ukraine. This is a proxy war between NATO and Russia, and it’s following the script that [was outlined by RAND](https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR3063.html).\n
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            The west made a huge miscalculation thinking that it could defeat Russia militarily and economically, and now the whole thing is starting to backfire. NATO is finding that it lacks the industrial base to sustain the conflict. Russia managed to reroute its trade away from the west, which caused immeasurable economic damage to Europe. The world outside the G7 has been increasingly aligning towards Russia and China and away from the west. This proxy war is heralding the end of the unipolar moment that US enjoyed and ushering in multipolarity.\n
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            > I have been using Google for long enough to know that it often shows us what we want to see, not that which is most likely to be correct. :)\n
            \n
            Have you considered that this might be why you still think that Ukraine is winning despite all the evidence to the contrary?\n
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            > Regarding Russian economic data you seem to be flaunting, Russia has made it hard for outside sources to verify any of it.\n
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            Every mainstream western outlet, including the IMF, agrees that Russian economy is growing. No serious economists dispute this.\n
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            > You seem to derive a lot of your opinions from mearsheimer.substack.com source but the sources the author uses to prove your points often come from rt.com which is like, the worst source for this discussion.\n
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            Mearsheimer is just one example, and he is a preeminent political scientist in the US. The reality is that there is propaganda in the west just like there is in Russia, and western media often omits covering things that RT covers. Simply dismissing information based on the source is frankly absurd.\n
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            Incidentally, Mearsheimer gave an entire lecture back in 2014 predicting the events in Ukraine that are currently unfolding, seems to me that he might know what he’s talking about [www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4)\n
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            > I will, however, refrain from posting on lemmy.ml in the future, because I can see that you are a mod of several communities on this instance and your overall conduct in this post has been rather childish and disrespectful. I feel like mods should hold themselves to a higher standard.\n
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            Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
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          +body: "After two years, it’s pretty clear that the west is not capable of doing anything of the sort. All the west managed to achieve was to ensure that hundreds of thousands of people died, and that Ukraine lost large parts of its territory in the process. We now have admissions from Ukrainian negotiators that a peace deal was close to being reached last March before the west sabotaged it."
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            The actual truth is that it’s NATO that’s been constantly expanding towards Russia. It’s also NATO that’s been invading and destroying countries since the end of USSR. Syria, Libya, and Yugoslavia being some prominent examples.\n
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            Meanwhile, Russia tried to resolve this situation diplomatically since 2008 with Minsk agreements that western leaders now openly admit were a delaying tactic by the west.\n
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            Finally, section IX of Ukraine’s 1990 Declaration of State Sovereignty states the following:\n
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            The whole legal basis for the existence of state of Ukraine is predicated on Ukraine staying neutral and not joining military blocs. Ukraine broke the very basis of this agreement when it tried to join NATO.\n
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            Now, thanks to western “help”, Ukraine will lose far more territory than it would have if the deal was done last year, and it may even cease to exist as a state. I can’t wait for you to explain how this actually helps people of Ukraine.
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          +body: "NATO is an aggressive alliance that has invaded and destroyed numerous countries. The fact that you keep pretending that it’s a defensive alliance just shows how utterly dishonest you are."
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            > False equivalence.\n
            \n
            It’s not.\n
            \n
            > Because Russia attacked them.\n
            \n
            No, Ukraine has been engaged in atrocities in Donbas since 2014 as even western media reported at the time.\n
            \n
            > It is in fact the opposite. No neutral country stays that way for long when Russia wants it’s territory.\n
            \n
            I see you have problems with reading comprehension.\n
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            > If the West had not helped, there would be no Ukraine either. We would be condemning them to a decade of guerilla warfare and oppression. Emboldened by his victory, Putin would look further west.\n
            \n
            If the west didn’t run a coup to overthrow a democratically elected government then there would’ve been no troubles in Ukraine. Period.\n
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            > Ukrainians now fight Russia, both sides are getting exhausted and it all depends on what help Ukraine gets. Your magical peace treaty would just mean Russia trying this again in 5 years or less.\n
            \n
            That’s complete and utter nonsense, and even western media now admits this.\n
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            > You could have used the same arguments to make peace with the Nazis in 1941 and the world would only be worse for it.\n
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            Now that’s what actual false equivalence looks like.
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            > Russian propaganda talking point.\n
            \n
            Ah yes, Russian propaganda point as reported by CNN back in 2014 [twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296](https://twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296)\n
            \n
            There’s even an hour long documentary from France on this [www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs)\n
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            Pretending this just didn’t happen is the height of intellectual dishonesty.\n
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            > Euromaidan was not a coup.\n
            \n
            Yes, it was and there’s overwhelming evidence for it.\n
            \n
            > Cite sources for the first point and military strategy analysts for the second.\n
            \n
            Are you just incapable of using google, I guess that would explain why you believe in nonsense. Here you go. First of all Russian economy is now rapidly growing while the west is going into a recession. This is not a country that’s showing any signs of being exhausted:\n
            \n
            - [newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-op…](https://www.newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-opinion-1861645)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-rosstat-2023-12-13/)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russian-factory-activity-expands-fa…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russian-factory-activity-expands-fastest-pace-seven-years-dec-pmi-2023-12-29/)\n
            \n
            and here’s some recent mainstream media reporting on the state of the war for you to chew on\n
            \n
            - [www.nytimes.com/2024/…/ukraine-russia-war.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/13/world/europe/ukraine-russia-war.html)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defen…](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defence-minister-says-2024-01-10/)\n
            - [lepoint.fr/…/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d…](https://www.lepoint.fr/monde/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d-une-debacle-05-01-2024-2549049_24.php)\n
            - [lemonde.fr/…/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-ex…](https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2023/09/27/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-express-discontent-i-repeatedly-told-them-nato-manuals-didn-t-apply_6140349_4.html)\n
            - [spiegel.de/…/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-…](https://www.spiegel.de/politik/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-deutschen-pannen-panzern-a-cd9421ae-4a96-4d4f-983a-6205a063ae15)\n
            - [archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73](https://archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73)\n
            - [telegraph.co.uk/…/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-…](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/12/27/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-tide-war-ukraine/)\n
            - [www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/…/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/ukraine-war-victory-hopes-dim-intl/index.html)\n
            - [cbc.ca/…/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232](https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232)\n
            \n
            and here’s some analysis from military strategists for you\n
            \n
            - [www.russiamatters.org/…/whats-ahead-war-ukraine](https://www.russiamatters.org/analysis/whats-ahead-war-ukraine)\n
            - […substack.com/…/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukra…](https://mearsheimer.substack.com/p/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukraine)\n
            - [rusi.org/…/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challeng…](https://www.rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challenges-and-innovations)\n
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            Russia will win this war, and the only thing the west has achieved was to help destroy Ukraine by sabotaging negotiations in 2022.
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            Russian economy is growing while the west is going into a recession. [Russian factory activity grows at fastest pace in over six years](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-factory-activity-grows-fastest-pace-over-six-years-sept-pmi-2023-10-02/), meanwhile [while US manufacturing activity shrinks the most in three years.](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-07-03/us-manufacturing-activity-shrinks-by-most-in-three-years). UK now [can’t even make steel from raw materials.](https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/jan/18/tata-steel-to-shut-down-port-talbot-blast-furnaces-3000-jobs-at-risk)\n
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            The fact that the west was deeply involved in the coup is well documented even in western media\n
            \n
            - [quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukr…](https://www.quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukraines-2014-revolution-was-due-to-a-CIA-coup) ([archive.ph/BAxYc](https://archive.ph/BAxYc))\n
            - [consortiumnews.com/…/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-i…](https://consortiumnews.com/2022/12/29/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-in-kiev/)\n
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            The foundations of my beliefs are that the west saw itself as the winner of the cold war after USSR dissolved, and decided to renege on all the promises that were made in the 90s. This created increasing tensions with Russia, and eventually led to the war we’re seeing play out in Ukraine. This is a proxy war between NATO and Russia, and it’s following the script that [was outlined by RAND](https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR3063.html).\n
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            The west made a huge miscalculation thinking that it could defeat Russia militarily and economically, and now the whole thing is starting to backfire. NATO is finding that it lacks the industrial base to sustain the conflict. Russia managed to reroute its trade away from the west, which caused immeasurable economic damage to Europe. The world outside the G7 has been increasingly aligning towards Russia and China and away from the west. This proxy war is heralding the end of the unipolar moment that US enjoyed and ushering in multipolarity.\n
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            > I have been using Google for long enough to know that it often shows us what we want to see, not that which is most likely to be correct. :)\n
            \n
            Have you considered that this might be why you still think that Ukraine is winning despite all the evidence to the contrary?\n
            \n
            > Regarding Russian economic data you seem to be flaunting, Russia has made it hard for outside sources to verify any of it.\n
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            Every mainstream western outlet, including the IMF, agrees that Russian economy is growing. No serious economists dispute this.\n
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            > You seem to derive a lot of your opinions from mearsheimer.substack.com source but the sources the author uses to prove your points often come from rt.com which is like, the worst source for this discussion.\n
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            Mearsheimer is just one example, and he is a preeminent political scientist in the US. The reality is that there is propaganda in the west just like there is in Russia, and western media often omits covering things that RT covers. Simply dismissing information based on the source is frankly absurd.\n
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            Incidentally, Mearsheimer gave an entire lecture back in 2014 predicting the events in Ukraine that are currently unfolding, seems to me that he might know what he’s talking about [www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4)\n
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            > I will, however, refrain from posting on lemmy.ml in the future, because I can see that you are a mod of several communities on this instance and your overall conduct in this post has been rather childish and disrespectful. I feel like mods should hold themselves to a higher standard.\n
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            Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
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            The actual truth is that it’s NATO that’s been constantly expanding towards Russia. It’s also NATO that’s been invading and destroying countries since the end of USSR. Syria, Libya, and Yugoslavia being some prominent examples.\n
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            Meanwhile, Russia tried to resolve this situation diplomatically since 2008 with Minsk agreements that western leaders now openly admit were a delaying tactic by the west.\n
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            Finally, section IX of Ukraine’s 1990 Declaration of State Sovereignty states the following:\n
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            [The Ukrainian SSR solemnly declares its intention of becoming a permanently neutral state that does not participate in military blocs and adheres to three nuclear free principles: to accept, to produce and to purchase no nuclear weapons.](https://web.archive.org/web/20130615031823/https://static.rada.gov.ua/site/postanova_eng/Declaration_of_State_Sovereignty_of_Ukraine_rev1.htm)\n
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            The whole legal basis for the existence of state of Ukraine is predicated on Ukraine staying neutral and not joining military blocs. Ukraine broke the very basis of this agreement when it tried to join NATO.\n
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            Now, thanks to western “help”, Ukraine will lose far more territory than it would have if the deal was done last year, and it may even cease to exist as a state. I can’t wait for you to explain how this actually helps people of Ukraine.
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          +body: "NATO is an aggressive alliance that has invaded and destroyed numerous countries. The fact that you keep pretending that it’s a defensive alliance just shows how utterly dishonest you are."
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            > False equivalence.\n
            \n
            It’s not.\n
            \n
            > Because Russia attacked them.\n
            \n
            No, Ukraine has been engaged in atrocities in Donbas since 2014 as even western media reported at the time.\n
            \n
            > It is in fact the opposite. No neutral country stays that way for long when Russia wants it’s territory.\n
            \n
            I see you have problems with reading comprehension.\n
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            > If the West had not helped, there would be no Ukraine either. We would be condemning them to a decade of guerilla warfare and oppression. Emboldened by his victory, Putin would look further west.\n
            \n
            If the west didn’t run a coup to overthrow a democratically elected government then there would’ve been no troubles in Ukraine. Period.\n
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            > Ukrainians now fight Russia, both sides are getting exhausted and it all depends on what help Ukraine gets. Your magical peace treaty would just mean Russia trying this again in 5 years or less.\n
            \n
            That’s complete and utter nonsense, and even western media now admits this.\n
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            > You could have used the same arguments to make peace with the Nazis in 1941 and the world would only be worse for it.\n
            \n
            Now that’s what actual false equivalence looks like.
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            > Russian propaganda talking point.\n
            \n
            Ah yes, Russian propaganda point as reported by CNN back in 2014 [twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296](https://twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296)\n
            \n
            There’s even an hour long documentary from France on this [www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs)\n
            \n
            Pretending this just didn’t happen is the height of intellectual dishonesty.\n
            \n
            > Euromaidan was not a coup.\n
            \n
            Yes, it was and there’s overwhelming evidence for it.\n
            \n
            > Cite sources for the first point and military strategy analysts for the second.\n
            \n
            Are you just incapable of using google, I guess that would explain why you believe in nonsense. Here you go. First of all Russian economy is now rapidly growing while the west is going into a recession. This is not a country that’s showing any signs of being exhausted:\n
            \n
            - [newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-op…](https://www.newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-opinion-1861645)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-rosstat-2023-12-13/)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russian-factory-activity-expands-fa…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russian-factory-activity-expands-fastest-pace-seven-years-dec-pmi-2023-12-29/)\n
            \n
            and here’s some recent mainstream media reporting on the state of the war for you to chew on\n
            \n
            - [www.nytimes.com/2024/…/ukraine-russia-war.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/13/world/europe/ukraine-russia-war.html)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defen…](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defence-minister-says-2024-01-10/)\n
            - [lepoint.fr/…/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d…](https://www.lepoint.fr/monde/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d-une-debacle-05-01-2024-2549049_24.php)\n
            - [lemonde.fr/…/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-ex…](https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2023/09/27/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-express-discontent-i-repeatedly-told-them-nato-manuals-didn-t-apply_6140349_4.html)\n
            - [spiegel.de/…/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-…](https://www.spiegel.de/politik/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-deutschen-pannen-panzern-a-cd9421ae-4a96-4d4f-983a-6205a063ae15)\n
            - [archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73](https://archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73)\n
            - [telegraph.co.uk/…/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-…](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/12/27/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-tide-war-ukraine/)\n
            - [www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/…/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/ukraine-war-victory-hopes-dim-intl/index.html)\n
            - [cbc.ca/…/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232](https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232)\n
            \n
            and here’s some analysis from military strategists for you\n
            \n
            - [www.russiamatters.org/…/whats-ahead-war-ukraine](https://www.russiamatters.org/analysis/whats-ahead-war-ukraine)\n
            - […substack.com/…/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukra…](https://mearsheimer.substack.com/p/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukraine)\n
            - [rusi.org/…/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challeng…](https://www.rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challenges-and-innovations)\n
            \n
            Russia will win this war, and the only thing the west has achieved was to help destroy Ukraine by sabotaging negotiations in 2022.
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          +body: "Share a source for NATO invading Yugoslavia, Libya, Syria, and Afghanistan, is that what you’re asking there little buddy?"
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            Russian economy is growing while the west is going into a recession. [Russian factory activity grows at fastest pace in over six years](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-factory-activity-grows-fastest-pace-over-six-years-sept-pmi-2023-10-02/), meanwhile [while US manufacturing activity shrinks the most in three years.](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-07-03/us-manufacturing-activity-shrinks-by-most-in-three-years). UK now [can’t even make steel from raw materials.](https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/jan/18/tata-steel-to-shut-down-port-talbot-blast-furnaces-3000-jobs-at-risk)\n
            \n
            Yes, people still bleat about a weaker Russia. 🤡
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          +body: "Here’s an idea go sign up as a volunteer in Ukraine and fight yourself instead of cheering on for other people to die for you, you disgusting sack of shit."
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            The fact that the west was deeply involved in the coup is well documented even in western media\n
            \n
            - [quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukr…](https://www.quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukraines-2014-revolution-was-due-to-a-CIA-coup) ([archive.ph/BAxYc](https://archive.ph/BAxYc))\n
            - [consortiumnews.com/…/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-i…](https://consortiumnews.com/2022/12/29/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-in-kiev/)\n
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            The foundations of my beliefs are that the west saw itself as the winner of the cold war after USSR dissolved, and decided to renege on all the promises that were made in the 90s. This created increasing tensions with Russia, and eventually led to the war we’re seeing play out in Ukraine. This is a proxy war between NATO and Russia, and it’s following the script that [was outlined by RAND](https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR3063.html).\n
            \n
            The west made a huge miscalculation thinking that it could defeat Russia militarily and economically, and now the whole thing is starting to backfire. NATO is finding that it lacks the industrial base to sustain the conflict. Russia managed to reroute its trade away from the west, which caused immeasurable economic damage to Europe. The world outside the G7 has been increasingly aligning towards Russia and China and away from the west. This proxy war is heralding the end of the unipolar moment that US enjoyed and ushering in multipolarity.\n
            \n
            > I have been using Google for long enough to know that it often shows us what we want to see, not that which is most likely to be correct. :)\n
            \n
            Have you considered that this might be why you still think that Ukraine is winning despite all the evidence to the contrary?\n
            \n
            > Regarding Russian economic data you seem to be flaunting, Russia has made it hard for outside sources to verify any of it.\n
            \n
            Every mainstream western outlet, including the IMF, agrees that Russian economy is growing. No serious economists dispute this.\n
            \n
            > You seem to derive a lot of your opinions from mearsheimer.substack.com source but the sources the author uses to prove your points often come from rt.com which is like, the worst source for this discussion.\n
            \n
            Mearsheimer is just one example, and he is a preeminent political scientist in the US. The reality is that there is propaganda in the west just like there is in Russia, and western media often omits covering things that RT covers. Simply dismissing information based on the source is frankly absurd.\n
            \n
            Incidentally, Mearsheimer gave an entire lecture back in 2014 predicting the events in Ukraine that are currently unfolding, seems to me that he might know what he’s talking about [www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4)\n
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            > I will, however, refrain from posting on lemmy.ml in the future, because I can see that you are a mod of several communities on this instance and your overall conduct in this post has been rather childish and disrespectful. I feel like mods should hold themselves to a higher standard.\n
            \n
            Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
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          +body: "NATO is an aggressive alliance that has invaded and destroyed numerous countries. The fact that you keep pretending that it’s a defensive alliance just shows how utterly dishonest you are."
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            > False equivalence.\n
            \n
            It’s not.\n
            \n
            > Because Russia attacked them.\n
            \n
            No, Ukraine has been engaged in atrocities in Donbas since 2014 as even western media reported at the time.\n
            \n
            > It is in fact the opposite. No neutral country stays that way for long when Russia wants it’s territory.\n
            \n
            I see you have problems with reading comprehension.\n
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            > If the West had not helped, there would be no Ukraine either. We would be condemning them to a decade of guerilla warfare and oppression. Emboldened by his victory, Putin would look further west.\n
            \n
            If the west didn’t run a coup to overthrow a democratically elected government then there would’ve been no troubles in Ukraine. Period.\n
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            > Ukrainians now fight Russia, both sides are getting exhausted and it all depends on what help Ukraine gets. Your magical peace treaty would just mean Russia trying this again in 5 years or less.\n
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            That’s complete and utter nonsense, and even western media now admits this.\n
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            > You could have used the same arguments to make peace with the Nazis in 1941 and the world would only be worse for it.\n
            \n
            Now that’s what actual false equivalence looks like.
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            > Russian propaganda talking point.\n
            \n
            Ah yes, Russian propaganda point as reported by CNN back in 2014 [twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296](https://twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296)\n
            \n
            There’s even an hour long documentary from France on this [www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs)\n
            \n
            Pretending this just didn’t happen is the height of intellectual dishonesty.\n
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            > Euromaidan was not a coup.\n
            \n
            Yes, it was and there’s overwhelming evidence for it.\n
            \n
            > Cite sources for the first point and military strategy analysts for the second.\n
            \n
            Are you just incapable of using google, I guess that would explain why you believe in nonsense. Here you go. First of all Russian economy is now rapidly growing while the west is going into a recession. This is not a country that’s showing any signs of being exhausted:\n
            \n
            - [newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-op…](https://www.newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-opinion-1861645)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-rosstat-2023-12-13/)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russian-factory-activity-expands-fa…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russian-factory-activity-expands-fastest-pace-seven-years-dec-pmi-2023-12-29/)\n
            \n
            and here’s some recent mainstream media reporting on the state of the war for you to chew on\n
            \n
            - [www.nytimes.com/2024/…/ukraine-russia-war.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/13/world/europe/ukraine-russia-war.html)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defen…](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defence-minister-says-2024-01-10/)\n
            - [lepoint.fr/…/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d…](https://www.lepoint.fr/monde/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d-une-debacle-05-01-2024-2549049_24.php)\n
            - [lemonde.fr/…/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-ex…](https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2023/09/27/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-express-discontent-i-repeatedly-told-them-nato-manuals-didn-t-apply_6140349_4.html)\n
            - [spiegel.de/…/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-…](https://www.spiegel.de/politik/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-deutschen-pannen-panzern-a-cd9421ae-4a96-4d4f-983a-6205a063ae15)\n
            - [archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73](https://archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73)\n
            - [telegraph.co.uk/…/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-…](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/12/27/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-tide-war-ukraine/)\n
            - [www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/…/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/ukraine-war-victory-hopes-dim-intl/index.html)\n
            - [cbc.ca/…/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232](https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232)\n
            \n
            and here’s some analysis from military strategists for you\n
            \n
            - [www.russiamatters.org/…/whats-ahead-war-ukraine](https://www.russiamatters.org/analysis/whats-ahead-war-ukraine)\n
            - […substack.com/…/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukra…](https://mearsheimer.substack.com/p/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukraine)\n
            - [rusi.org/…/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challeng…](https://www.rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challenges-and-innovations)\n
            \n
            Russia will win this war, and the only thing the west has achieved was to help destroy Ukraine by sabotaging negotiations in 2022.
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            Russian economy is growing while the west is going into a recession. [Russian factory activity grows at fastest pace in over six years](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-factory-activity-grows-fastest-pace-over-six-years-sept-pmi-2023-10-02/), meanwhile [while US manufacturing activity shrinks the most in three years.](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-07-03/us-manufacturing-activity-shrinks-by-most-in-three-years). UK now [can’t even make steel from raw materials.](https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/jan/18/tata-steel-to-shut-down-port-talbot-blast-furnaces-3000-jobs-at-risk)\n
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            Yes, people still bleat about a weaker Russia. 🤡
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            The fact that the west was deeply involved in the coup is well documented even in western media\n
            \n
            - [quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukr…](https://www.quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukraines-2014-revolution-was-due-to-a-CIA-coup) ([archive.ph/BAxYc](https://archive.ph/BAxYc))\n
            - [consortiumnews.com/…/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-i…](https://consortiumnews.com/2022/12/29/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-in-kiev/)\n
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            The foundations of my beliefs are that the west saw itself as the winner of the cold war after USSR dissolved, and decided to renege on all the promises that were made in the 90s. This created increasing tensions with Russia, and eventually led to the war we’re seeing play out in Ukraine. This is a proxy war between NATO and Russia, and it’s following the script that [was outlined by RAND](https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR3063.html).\n
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            The west made a huge miscalculation thinking that it could defeat Russia militarily and economically, and now the whole thing is starting to backfire. NATO is finding that it lacks the industrial base to sustain the conflict. Russia managed to reroute its trade away from the west, which caused immeasurable economic damage to Europe. The world outside the G7 has been increasingly aligning towards Russia and China and away from the west. This proxy war is heralding the end of the unipolar moment that US enjoyed and ushering in multipolarity.\n
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            > I have been using Google for long enough to know that it often shows us what we want to see, not that which is most likely to be correct. :)\n
            \n
            Have you considered that this might be why you still think that Ukraine is winning despite all the evidence to the contrary?\n
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            > Regarding Russian economic data you seem to be flaunting, Russia has made it hard for outside sources to verify any of it.\n
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            Every mainstream western outlet, including the IMF, agrees that Russian economy is growing. No serious economists dispute this.\n
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            > You seem to derive a lot of your opinions from mearsheimer.substack.com source but the sources the author uses to prove your points often come from rt.com which is like, the worst source for this discussion.\n
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            Mearsheimer is just one example, and he is a preeminent political scientist in the US. The reality is that there is propaganda in the west just like there is in Russia, and western media often omits covering things that RT covers. Simply dismissing information based on the source is frankly absurd.\n
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            Incidentally, Mearsheimer gave an entire lecture back in 2014 predicting the events in Ukraine that are currently unfolding, seems to me that he might know what he’s talking about [www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4)\n
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            > I will, however, refrain from posting on lemmy.ml in the future, because I can see that you are a mod of several communities on this instance and your overall conduct in this post has been rather childish and disrespectful. I feel like mods should hold themselves to a higher standard.\n
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            Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
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            The actual truth is that it’s NATO that’s been constantly expanding towards Russia. It’s also NATO that’s been invading and destroying countries since the end of USSR. Syria, Libya, and Yugoslavia being some prominent examples.\n
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          +body: "NATO is an aggressive alliance that has invaded and destroyed numerous countries. The fact that you keep pretending that it’s a defensive alliance just shows how utterly dishonest you are."
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            > False equivalence.\n
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            It’s not.\n
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            > Because Russia attacked them.\n
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            No, Ukraine has been engaged in atrocities in Donbas since 2014 as even western media reported at the time.\n
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            > It is in fact the opposite. No neutral country stays that way for long when Russia wants it’s territory.\n
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            I see you have problems with reading comprehension.\n
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            If the west didn’t run a coup to overthrow a democratically elected government then there would’ve been no troubles in Ukraine. Period.\n
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            That’s complete and utter nonsense, and even western media now admits this.\n
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            > You could have used the same arguments to make peace with the Nazis in 1941 and the world would only be worse for it.\n
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            Now that’s what actual false equivalence looks like.
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            > Russian propaganda talking point.\n
            \n
            Ah yes, Russian propaganda point as reported by CNN back in 2014 [twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296](https://twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296)\n
            \n
            There’s even an hour long documentary from France on this [www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs)\n
            \n
            Pretending this just didn’t happen is the height of intellectual dishonesty.\n
            \n
            > Euromaidan was not a coup.\n
            \n
            Yes, it was and there’s overwhelming evidence for it.\n
            \n
            > Cite sources for the first point and military strategy analysts for the second.\n
            \n
            Are you just incapable of using google, I guess that would explain why you believe in nonsense. Here you go. First of all Russian economy is now rapidly growing while the west is going into a recession. This is not a country that’s showing any signs of being exhausted:\n
            \n
            - [newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-op…](https://www.newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-opinion-1861645)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-rosstat-2023-12-13/)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russian-factory-activity-expands-fa…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russian-factory-activity-expands-fastest-pace-seven-years-dec-pmi-2023-12-29/)\n
            \n
            and here’s some recent mainstream media reporting on the state of the war for you to chew on\n
            \n
            - [www.nytimes.com/2024/…/ukraine-russia-war.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/13/world/europe/ukraine-russia-war.html)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defen…](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defence-minister-says-2024-01-10/)\n
            - [lepoint.fr/…/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d…](https://www.lepoint.fr/monde/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d-une-debacle-05-01-2024-2549049_24.php)\n
            - [lemonde.fr/…/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-ex…](https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2023/09/27/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-express-discontent-i-repeatedly-told-them-nato-manuals-didn-t-apply_6140349_4.html)\n
            - [spiegel.de/…/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-…](https://www.spiegel.de/politik/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-deutschen-pannen-panzern-a-cd9421ae-4a96-4d4f-983a-6205a063ae15)\n
            - [archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73](https://archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73)\n
            - [telegraph.co.uk/…/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-…](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/12/27/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-tide-war-ukraine/)\n
            - [www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/…/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/ukraine-war-victory-hopes-dim-intl/index.html)\n
            - [cbc.ca/…/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232](https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232)\n
            \n
            and here’s some analysis from military strategists for you\n
            \n
            - [www.russiamatters.org/…/whats-ahead-war-ukraine](https://www.russiamatters.org/analysis/whats-ahead-war-ukraine)\n
            - […substack.com/…/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukra…](https://mearsheimer.substack.com/p/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukraine)\n
            - [rusi.org/…/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challeng…](https://www.rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challenges-and-innovations)\n
            \n
            Russia will win this war, and the only thing the west has achieved was to help destroy Ukraine by sabotaging negotiations in 2022.
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            Russian economy is growing while the west is going into a recession. [Russian factory activity grows at fastest pace in over six years](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-factory-activity-grows-fastest-pace-over-six-years-sept-pmi-2023-10-02/), meanwhile [while US manufacturing activity shrinks the most in three years.](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-07-03/us-manufacturing-activity-shrinks-by-most-in-three-years). UK now [can’t even make steel from raw materials.](https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/jan/18/tata-steel-to-shut-down-port-talbot-blast-furnaces-3000-jobs-at-risk)\n
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            The fact that the west was deeply involved in the coup is well documented even in western media\n
            \n
            - [quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukr…](https://www.quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukraines-2014-revolution-was-due-to-a-CIA-coup) ([archive.ph/BAxYc](https://archive.ph/BAxYc))\n
            - [consortiumnews.com/…/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-i…](https://consortiumnews.com/2022/12/29/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-in-kiev/)\n
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            The foundations of my beliefs are that the west saw itself as the winner of the cold war after USSR dissolved, and decided to renege on all the promises that were made in the 90s. This created increasing tensions with Russia, and eventually led to the war we’re seeing play out in Ukraine. This is a proxy war between NATO and Russia, and it’s following the script that [was outlined by RAND](https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR3063.html).\n
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            The west made a huge miscalculation thinking that it could defeat Russia militarily and economically, and now the whole thing is starting to backfire. NATO is finding that it lacks the industrial base to sustain the conflict. Russia managed to reroute its trade away from the west, which caused immeasurable economic damage to Europe. The world outside the G7 has been increasingly aligning towards Russia and China and away from the west. This proxy war is heralding the end of the unipolar moment that US enjoyed and ushering in multipolarity.\n
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            > I have been using Google for long enough to know that it often shows us what we want to see, not that which is most likely to be correct. :)\n
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            Have you considered that this might be why you still think that Ukraine is winning despite all the evidence to the contrary?\n
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            > Regarding Russian economic data you seem to be flaunting, Russia has made it hard for outside sources to verify any of it.\n
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            Every mainstream western outlet, including the IMF, agrees that Russian economy is growing. No serious economists dispute this.\n
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            > You seem to derive a lot of your opinions from mearsheimer.substack.com source but the sources the author uses to prove your points often come from rt.com which is like, the worst source for this discussion.\n
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            Mearsheimer is just one example, and he is a preeminent political scientist in the US. The reality is that there is propaganda in the west just like there is in Russia, and western media often omits covering things that RT covers. Simply dismissing information based on the source is frankly absurd.\n
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            Incidentally, Mearsheimer gave an entire lecture back in 2014 predicting the events in Ukraine that are currently unfolding, seems to me that he might know what he’s talking about [www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4)\n
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            > I will, however, refrain from posting on lemmy.ml in the future, because I can see that you are a mod of several communities on this instance and your overall conduct in this post has been rather childish and disrespectful. I feel like mods should hold themselves to a higher standard.\n
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            Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
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          +body: "After two years, it’s pretty clear that the west is not capable of doing anything of the sort. All the west managed to achieve was to ensure that hundreds of thousands of people died, and that Ukraine lost large parts of its territory in the process. We now have admissions from Ukrainian negotiators that a peace deal was close to being reached last March before the west sabotaged it."
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            The actual truth is that it’s NATO that’s been constantly expanding towards Russia. It’s also NATO that’s been invading and destroying countries since the end of USSR. Syria, Libya, and Yugoslavia being some prominent examples.\n
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            Meanwhile, Russia tried to resolve this situation diplomatically since 2008 with Minsk agreements that western leaders now openly admit were a delaying tactic by the west.\n
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            Finally, section IX of Ukraine’s 1990 Declaration of State Sovereignty states the following:\n
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            The whole legal basis for the existence of state of Ukraine is predicated on Ukraine staying neutral and not joining military blocs. Ukraine broke the very basis of this agreement when it tried to join NATO.\n
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            Now, thanks to western “help”, Ukraine will lose far more territory than it would have if the deal was done last year, and it may even cease to exist as a state. I can’t wait for you to explain how this actually helps people of Ukraine.
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          +body: "NATO is an aggressive alliance that has invaded and destroyed numerous countries. The fact that you keep pretending that it’s a defensive alliance just shows how utterly dishonest you are."
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            > False equivalence.\n
            \n
            It’s not.\n
            \n
            > Because Russia attacked them.\n
            \n
            No, Ukraine has been engaged in atrocities in Donbas since 2014 as even western media reported at the time.\n
            \n
            > It is in fact the opposite. No neutral country stays that way for long when Russia wants it’s territory.\n
            \n
            I see you have problems with reading comprehension.\n
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            > If the West had not helped, there would be no Ukraine either. We would be condemning them to a decade of guerilla warfare and oppression. Emboldened by his victory, Putin would look further west.\n
            \n
            If the west didn’t run a coup to overthrow a democratically elected government then there would’ve been no troubles in Ukraine. Period.\n
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            > Ukrainians now fight Russia, both sides are getting exhausted and it all depends on what help Ukraine gets. Your magical peace treaty would just mean Russia trying this again in 5 years or less.\n
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            That’s complete and utter nonsense, and even western media now admits this.\n
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            > You could have used the same arguments to make peace with the Nazis in 1941 and the world would only be worse for it.\n
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            Now that’s what actual false equivalence looks like.
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            > Russian propaganda talking point.\n
            \n
            Ah yes, Russian propaganda point as reported by CNN back in 2014 [twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296](https://twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296)\n
            \n
            There’s even an hour long documentary from France on this [www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs)\n
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            Pretending this just didn’t happen is the height of intellectual dishonesty.\n
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            > Euromaidan was not a coup.\n
            \n
            Yes, it was and there’s overwhelming evidence for it.\n
            \n
            > Cite sources for the first point and military strategy analysts for the second.\n
            \n
            Are you just incapable of using google, I guess that would explain why you believe in nonsense. Here you go. First of all Russian economy is now rapidly growing while the west is going into a recession. This is not a country that’s showing any signs of being exhausted:\n
            \n
            - [newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-op…](https://www.newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-opinion-1861645)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-rosstat-2023-12-13/)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russian-factory-activity-expands-fa…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russian-factory-activity-expands-fastest-pace-seven-years-dec-pmi-2023-12-29/)\n
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            and here’s some recent mainstream media reporting on the state of the war for you to chew on\n
            \n
            - [www.nytimes.com/2024/…/ukraine-russia-war.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/13/world/europe/ukraine-russia-war.html)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defen…](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defence-minister-says-2024-01-10/)\n
            - [lepoint.fr/…/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d…](https://www.lepoint.fr/monde/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d-une-debacle-05-01-2024-2549049_24.php)\n
            - [lemonde.fr/…/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-ex…](https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2023/09/27/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-express-discontent-i-repeatedly-told-them-nato-manuals-didn-t-apply_6140349_4.html)\n
            - [spiegel.de/…/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-…](https://www.spiegel.de/politik/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-deutschen-pannen-panzern-a-cd9421ae-4a96-4d4f-983a-6205a063ae15)\n
            - [archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73](https://archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73)\n
            - [telegraph.co.uk/…/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-…](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/12/27/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-tide-war-ukraine/)\n
            - [www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/…/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/ukraine-war-victory-hopes-dim-intl/index.html)\n
            - [cbc.ca/…/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232](https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232)\n
            \n
            and here’s some analysis from military strategists for you\n
            \n
            - [www.russiamatters.org/…/whats-ahead-war-ukraine](https://www.russiamatters.org/analysis/whats-ahead-war-ukraine)\n
            - […substack.com/…/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukra…](https://mearsheimer.substack.com/p/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukraine)\n
            - [rusi.org/…/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challeng…](https://www.rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challenges-and-innovations)\n
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            Russia will win this war, and the only thing the west has achieved was to help destroy Ukraine by sabotaging negotiations in 2022.
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          +body: "Share a source for NATO invading Yugoslavia, Libya, Syria, and Afghanistan, is that what you’re asking there little buddy?"
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            Russian economy is growing while the west is going into a recession. [Russian factory activity grows at fastest pace in over six years](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-factory-activity-grows-fastest-pace-over-six-years-sept-pmi-2023-10-02/), meanwhile [while US manufacturing activity shrinks the most in three years.](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-07-03/us-manufacturing-activity-shrinks-by-most-in-three-years). UK now [can’t even make steel from raw materials.](https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/jan/18/tata-steel-to-shut-down-port-talbot-blast-furnaces-3000-jobs-at-risk)\n
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            Yes, people still bleat about a weaker Russia. 🤡
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          +body: "Here’s an idea go sign up as a volunteer in Ukraine and fight yourself instead of cheering on for other people to die for you, you disgusting sack of shit."
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            The fact that the west was deeply involved in the coup is well documented even in western media\n
            \n
            - [quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukr…](https://www.quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukraines-2014-revolution-was-due-to-a-CIA-coup) ([archive.ph/BAxYc](https://archive.ph/BAxYc))\n
            - [consortiumnews.com/…/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-i…](https://consortiumnews.com/2022/12/29/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-in-kiev/)\n
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            The foundations of my beliefs are that the west saw itself as the winner of the cold war after USSR dissolved, and decided to renege on all the promises that were made in the 90s. This created increasing tensions with Russia, and eventually led to the war we’re seeing play out in Ukraine. This is a proxy war between NATO and Russia, and it’s following the script that [was outlined by RAND](https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR3063.html).\n
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            The west made a huge miscalculation thinking that it could defeat Russia militarily and economically, and now the whole thing is starting to backfire. NATO is finding that it lacks the industrial base to sustain the conflict. Russia managed to reroute its trade away from the west, which caused immeasurable economic damage to Europe. The world outside the G7 has been increasingly aligning towards Russia and China and away from the west. This proxy war is heralding the end of the unipolar moment that US enjoyed and ushering in multipolarity.\n
            \n
            > I have been using Google for long enough to know that it often shows us what we want to see, not that which is most likely to be correct. :)\n
            \n
            Have you considered that this might be why you still think that Ukraine is winning despite all the evidence to the contrary?\n
            \n
            > Regarding Russian economic data you seem to be flaunting, Russia has made it hard for outside sources to verify any of it.\n
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            Every mainstream western outlet, including the IMF, agrees that Russian economy is growing. No serious economists dispute this.\n
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            > You seem to derive a lot of your opinions from mearsheimer.substack.com source but the sources the author uses to prove your points often come from rt.com which is like, the worst source for this discussion.\n
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            Mearsheimer is just one example, and he is a preeminent political scientist in the US. The reality is that there is propaganda in the west just like there is in Russia, and western media often omits covering things that RT covers. Simply dismissing information based on the source is frankly absurd.\n
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            Incidentally, Mearsheimer gave an entire lecture back in 2014 predicting the events in Ukraine that are currently unfolding, seems to me that he might know what he’s talking about [www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4)\n
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            > I will, however, refrain from posting on lemmy.ml in the future, because I can see that you are a mod of several communities on this instance and your overall conduct in this post has been rather childish and disrespectful. I feel like mods should hold themselves to a higher standard.\n
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            Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
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          +body: "After two years, it’s pretty clear that the west is not capable of doing anything of the sort. All the west managed to achieve was to ensure that hundreds of thousands of people died, and that Ukraine lost large parts of its territory in the process. We now have admissions from Ukrainian negotiators that a peace deal was close to being reached last March before the west sabotaged it."
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            The actual truth is that it’s NATO that’s been constantly expanding towards Russia. It’s also NATO that’s been invading and destroying countries since the end of USSR. Syria, Libya, and Yugoslavia being some prominent examples.\n
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            Meanwhile, Russia tried to resolve this situation diplomatically since 2008 with Minsk agreements that western leaders now openly admit were a delaying tactic by the west.\n
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            Finally, section IX of Ukraine’s 1990 Declaration of State Sovereignty states the following:\n
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            [The Ukrainian SSR solemnly declares its intention of becoming a permanently neutral state that does not participate in military blocs and adheres to three nuclear free principles: to accept, to produce and to purchase no nuclear weapons.](https://web.archive.org/web/20130615031823/https://static.rada.gov.ua/site/postanova_eng/Declaration_of_State_Sovereignty_of_Ukraine_rev1.htm)\n
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            The whole legal basis for the existence of state of Ukraine is predicated on Ukraine staying neutral and not joining military blocs. Ukraine broke the very basis of this agreement when it tried to join NATO.\n
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            Now, thanks to western “help”, Ukraine will lose far more territory than it would have if the deal was done last year, and it may even cease to exist as a state. I can’t wait for you to explain how this actually helps people of Ukraine.
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          +body: "NATO is an aggressive alliance that has invaded and destroyed numerous countries. The fact that you keep pretending that it’s a defensive alliance just shows how utterly dishonest you are."
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            > False equivalence.\n
            \n
            It’s not.\n
            \n
            > Because Russia attacked them.\n
            \n
            No, Ukraine has been engaged in atrocities in Donbas since 2014 as even western media reported at the time.\n
            \n
            > It is in fact the opposite. No neutral country stays that way for long when Russia wants it’s territory.\n
            \n
            I see you have problems with reading comprehension.\n
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            > If the West had not helped, there would be no Ukraine either. We would be condemning them to a decade of guerilla warfare and oppression. Emboldened by his victory, Putin would look further west.\n
            \n
            If the west didn’t run a coup to overthrow a democratically elected government then there would’ve been no troubles in Ukraine. Period.\n
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            > Ukrainians now fight Russia, both sides are getting exhausted and it all depends on what help Ukraine gets. Your magical peace treaty would just mean Russia trying this again in 5 years or less.\n
            \n
            That’s complete and utter nonsense, and even western media now admits this.\n
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            > You could have used the same arguments to make peace with the Nazis in 1941 and the world would only be worse for it.\n
            \n
            Now that’s what actual false equivalence looks like.
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            > Russian propaganda talking point.\n
            \n
            Ah yes, Russian propaganda point as reported by CNN back in 2014 [twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296](https://twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296)\n
            \n
            There’s even an hour long documentary from France on this [www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs)\n
            \n
            Pretending this just didn’t happen is the height of intellectual dishonesty.\n
            \n
            > Euromaidan was not a coup.\n
            \n
            Yes, it was and there’s overwhelming evidence for it.\n
            \n
            > Cite sources for the first point and military strategy analysts for the second.\n
            \n
            Are you just incapable of using google, I guess that would explain why you believe in nonsense. Here you go. First of all Russian economy is now rapidly growing while the west is going into a recession. This is not a country that’s showing any signs of being exhausted:\n
            \n
            - [newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-op…](https://www.newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-opinion-1861645)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-rosstat-2023-12-13/)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russian-factory-activity-expands-fa…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russian-factory-activity-expands-fastest-pace-seven-years-dec-pmi-2023-12-29/)\n
            \n
            and here’s some recent mainstream media reporting on the state of the war for you to chew on\n
            \n
            - [www.nytimes.com/2024/…/ukraine-russia-war.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/13/world/europe/ukraine-russia-war.html)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defen…](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defence-minister-says-2024-01-10/)\n
            - [lepoint.fr/…/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d…](https://www.lepoint.fr/monde/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d-une-debacle-05-01-2024-2549049_24.php)\n
            - [lemonde.fr/…/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-ex…](https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2023/09/27/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-express-discontent-i-repeatedly-told-them-nato-manuals-didn-t-apply_6140349_4.html)\n
            - [spiegel.de/…/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-…](https://www.spiegel.de/politik/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-deutschen-pannen-panzern-a-cd9421ae-4a96-4d4f-983a-6205a063ae15)\n
            - [archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73](https://archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73)\n
            - [telegraph.co.uk/…/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-…](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/12/27/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-tide-war-ukraine/)\n
            - [www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/…/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/ukraine-war-victory-hopes-dim-intl/index.html)\n
            - [cbc.ca/…/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232](https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232)\n
            \n
            and here’s some analysis from military strategists for you\n
            \n
            - [www.russiamatters.org/…/whats-ahead-war-ukraine](https://www.russiamatters.org/analysis/whats-ahead-war-ukraine)\n
            - […substack.com/…/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukra…](https://mearsheimer.substack.com/p/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukraine)\n
            - [rusi.org/…/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challeng…](https://www.rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challenges-and-innovations)\n
            \n
            Russia will win this war, and the only thing the west has achieved was to help destroy Ukraine by sabotaging negotiations in 2022.
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          +body: "Share a source for NATO invading Yugoslavia, Libya, Syria, and Afghanistan, is that what you’re asking there little buddy?"
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          +body: "No, I’m saying that anybody can type in words NATO and Yugoslavia or NATO and Libya into Google and see that you’re a liar."
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            Russian economy is growing while the west is going into a recession. [Russian factory activity grows at fastest pace in over six years](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-factory-activity-grows-fastest-pace-over-six-years-sept-pmi-2023-10-02/), meanwhile [while US manufacturing activity shrinks the most in three years.](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-07-03/us-manufacturing-activity-shrinks-by-most-in-three-years). UK now [can’t even make steel from raw materials.](https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/jan/18/tata-steel-to-shut-down-port-talbot-blast-furnaces-3000-jobs-at-risk)\n
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            Yes, people still bleat about a weaker Russia. 🤡
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          +body: "Here’s an idea go sign up as a volunteer in Ukraine and fight yourself instead of cheering on for other people to die for you, you disgusting sack of shit."
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            The fact that the west was deeply involved in the coup is well documented even in western media\n
            \n
            - [quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukr…](https://www.quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukraines-2014-revolution-was-due-to-a-CIA-coup) ([archive.ph/BAxYc](https://archive.ph/BAxYc))\n
            - [consortiumnews.com/…/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-i…](https://consortiumnews.com/2022/12/29/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-in-kiev/)\n
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            The foundations of my beliefs are that the west saw itself as the winner of the cold war after USSR dissolved, and decided to renege on all the promises that were made in the 90s. This created increasing tensions with Russia, and eventually led to the war we’re seeing play out in Ukraine. This is a proxy war between NATO and Russia, and it’s following the script that [was outlined by RAND](https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR3063.html).\n
            \n
            The west made a huge miscalculation thinking that it could defeat Russia militarily and economically, and now the whole thing is starting to backfire. NATO is finding that it lacks the industrial base to sustain the conflict. Russia managed to reroute its trade away from the west, which caused immeasurable economic damage to Europe. The world outside the G7 has been increasingly aligning towards Russia and China and away from the west. This proxy war is heralding the end of the unipolar moment that US enjoyed and ushering in multipolarity.\n
            \n
            > I have been using Google for long enough to know that it often shows us what we want to see, not that which is most likely to be correct. :)\n
            \n
            Have you considered that this might be why you still think that Ukraine is winning despite all the evidence to the contrary?\n
            \n
            > Regarding Russian economic data you seem to be flaunting, Russia has made it hard for outside sources to verify any of it.\n
            \n
            Every mainstream western outlet, including the IMF, agrees that Russian economy is growing. No serious economists dispute this.\n
            \n
            > You seem to derive a lot of your opinions from mearsheimer.substack.com source but the sources the author uses to prove your points often come from rt.com which is like, the worst source for this discussion.\n
            \n
            Mearsheimer is just one example, and he is a preeminent political scientist in the US. The reality is that there is propaganda in the west just like there is in Russia, and western media often omits covering things that RT covers. Simply dismissing information based on the source is frankly absurd.\n
            \n
            Incidentally, Mearsheimer gave an entire lecture back in 2014 predicting the events in Ukraine that are currently unfolding, seems to me that he might know what he’s talking about [www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4)\n
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            > I will, however, refrain from posting on lemmy.ml in the future, because I can see that you are a mod of several communities on this instance and your overall conduct in this post has been rather childish and disrespectful. I feel like mods should hold themselves to a higher standard.\n
            \n
            Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
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            The actual truth is that it’s NATO that’s been constantly expanding towards Russia. It’s also NATO that’s been invading and destroying countries since the end of USSR. Syria, Libya, and Yugoslavia being some prominent examples.\n
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            Meanwhile, Russia tried to resolve this situation diplomatically since 2008 with Minsk agreements that western leaders now openly admit were a delaying tactic by the west.\n
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            > False equivalence.\n
            \n
            It’s not.\n
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            > Because Russia attacked them.\n
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            No, Ukraine has been engaged in atrocities in Donbas since 2014 as even western media reported at the time.\n
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            If the west didn’t run a coup to overthrow a democratically elected government then there would’ve been no troubles in Ukraine. Period.\n
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            That’s complete and utter nonsense, and even western media now admits this.\n
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            Now that’s what actual false equivalence looks like.
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            > Russian propaganda talking point.\n
            \n
            Ah yes, Russian propaganda point as reported by CNN back in 2014 [twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296](https://twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296)\n
            \n
            There’s even an hour long documentary from France on this [www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs)\n
            \n
            Pretending this just didn’t happen is the height of intellectual dishonesty.\n
            \n
            > Euromaidan was not a coup.\n
            \n
            Yes, it was and there’s overwhelming evidence for it.\n
            \n
            > Cite sources for the first point and military strategy analysts for the second.\n
            \n
            Are you just incapable of using google, I guess that would explain why you believe in nonsense. Here you go. First of all Russian economy is now rapidly growing while the west is going into a recession. This is not a country that’s showing any signs of being exhausted:\n
            \n
            - [newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-op…](https://www.newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-opinion-1861645)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-rosstat-2023-12-13/)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russian-factory-activity-expands-fa…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russian-factory-activity-expands-fastest-pace-seven-years-dec-pmi-2023-12-29/)\n
            \n
            and here’s some recent mainstream media reporting on the state of the war for you to chew on\n
            \n
            - [www.nytimes.com/2024/…/ukraine-russia-war.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/13/world/europe/ukraine-russia-war.html)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defen…](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defence-minister-says-2024-01-10/)\n
            - [lepoint.fr/…/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d…](https://www.lepoint.fr/monde/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d-une-debacle-05-01-2024-2549049_24.php)\n
            - [lemonde.fr/…/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-ex…](https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2023/09/27/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-express-discontent-i-repeatedly-told-them-nato-manuals-didn-t-apply_6140349_4.html)\n
            - [spiegel.de/…/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-…](https://www.spiegel.de/politik/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-deutschen-pannen-panzern-a-cd9421ae-4a96-4d4f-983a-6205a063ae15)\n
            - [archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73](https://archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73)\n
            - [telegraph.co.uk/…/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-…](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/12/27/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-tide-war-ukraine/)\n
            - [www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/…/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/ukraine-war-victory-hopes-dim-intl/index.html)\n
            - [cbc.ca/…/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232](https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232)\n
            \n
            and here’s some analysis from military strategists for you\n
            \n
            - [www.russiamatters.org/…/whats-ahead-war-ukraine](https://www.russiamatters.org/analysis/whats-ahead-war-ukraine)\n
            - […substack.com/…/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukra…](https://mearsheimer.substack.com/p/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukraine)\n
            - [rusi.org/…/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challeng…](https://www.rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challenges-and-innovations)\n
            \n
            Russia will win this war, and the only thing the west has achieved was to help destroy Ukraine by sabotaging negotiations in 2022.
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          +body: "Share a source for NATO invading Yugoslavia, Libya, Syria, and Afghanistan, is that what you’re asking there little buddy?"
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          +body: "No, I’m saying that anybody can type in words NATO and Yugoslavia or NATO and Libya into Google and see that you’re a liar."
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            Russian economy is growing while the west is going into a recession. [Russian factory activity grows at fastest pace in over six years](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-factory-activity-grows-fastest-pace-over-six-years-sept-pmi-2023-10-02/), meanwhile [while US manufacturing activity shrinks the most in three years.](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-07-03/us-manufacturing-activity-shrinks-by-most-in-three-years). UK now [can’t even make steel from raw materials.](https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/jan/18/tata-steel-to-shut-down-port-talbot-blast-furnaces-3000-jobs-at-risk)\n
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            Yes, people still bleat about a weaker Russia. 🤡
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            The fact that the west was deeply involved in the coup is well documented even in western media\n
            \n
            - [quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukr…](https://www.quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukraines-2014-revolution-was-due-to-a-CIA-coup) ([archive.ph/BAxYc](https://archive.ph/BAxYc))\n
            - [consortiumnews.com/…/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-i…](https://consortiumnews.com/2022/12/29/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-in-kiev/)\n
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            The foundations of my beliefs are that the west saw itself as the winner of the cold war after USSR dissolved, and decided to renege on all the promises that were made in the 90s. This created increasing tensions with Russia, and eventually led to the war we’re seeing play out in Ukraine. This is a proxy war between NATO and Russia, and it’s following the script that [was outlined by RAND](https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR3063.html).\n
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            The west made a huge miscalculation thinking that it could defeat Russia militarily and economically, and now the whole thing is starting to backfire. NATO is finding that it lacks the industrial base to sustain the conflict. Russia managed to reroute its trade away from the west, which caused immeasurable economic damage to Europe. The world outside the G7 has been increasingly aligning towards Russia and China and away from the west. This proxy war is heralding the end of the unipolar moment that US enjoyed and ushering in multipolarity.\n
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            > I have been using Google for long enough to know that it often shows us what we want to see, not that which is most likely to be correct. :)\n
            \n
            Have you considered that this might be why you still think that Ukraine is winning despite all the evidence to the contrary?\n
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            > Regarding Russian economic data you seem to be flaunting, Russia has made it hard for outside sources to verify any of it.\n
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            Every mainstream western outlet, including the IMF, agrees that Russian economy is growing. No serious economists dispute this.\n
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            > You seem to derive a lot of your opinions from mearsheimer.substack.com source but the sources the author uses to prove your points often come from rt.com which is like, the worst source for this discussion.\n
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            Mearsheimer is just one example, and he is a preeminent political scientist in the US. The reality is that there is propaganda in the west just like there is in Russia, and western media often omits covering things that RT covers. Simply dismissing information based on the source is frankly absurd.\n
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            Incidentally, Mearsheimer gave an entire lecture back in 2014 predicting the events in Ukraine that are currently unfolding, seems to me that he might know what he’s talking about [www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4)\n
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            > I will, however, refrain from posting on lemmy.ml in the future, because I can see that you are a mod of several communities on this instance and your overall conduct in this post has been rather childish and disrespectful. I feel like mods should hold themselves to a higher standard.\n
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            Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
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          +body: "After two years, it’s pretty clear that the west is not capable of doing anything of the sort. All the west managed to achieve was to ensure that hundreds of thousands of people died, and that Ukraine lost large parts of its territory in the process. We now have admissions from Ukrainian negotiators that a peace deal was close to being reached last March before the west sabotaged it."
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            The actual truth is that it’s NATO that’s been constantly expanding towards Russia. It’s also NATO that’s been invading and destroying countries since the end of USSR. Syria, Libya, and Yugoslavia being some prominent examples.\n
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            Meanwhile, Russia tried to resolve this situation diplomatically since 2008 with Minsk agreements that western leaders now openly admit were a delaying tactic by the west.\n
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            Finally, section IX of Ukraine’s 1990 Declaration of State Sovereignty states the following:\n
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            The whole legal basis for the existence of state of Ukraine is predicated on Ukraine staying neutral and not joining military blocs. Ukraine broke the very basis of this agreement when it tried to join NATO.\n
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            Now, thanks to western “help”, Ukraine will lose far more territory than it would have if the deal was done last year, and it may even cease to exist as a state. I can’t wait for you to explain how this actually helps people of Ukraine.
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          +body: "NATO is an aggressive alliance that has invaded and destroyed numerous countries. The fact that you keep pretending that it’s a defensive alliance just shows how utterly dishonest you are."
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            > False equivalence.\n
            \n
            It’s not.\n
            \n
            > Because Russia attacked them.\n
            \n
            No, Ukraine has been engaged in atrocities in Donbas since 2014 as even western media reported at the time.\n
            \n
            > It is in fact the opposite. No neutral country stays that way for long when Russia wants it’s territory.\n
            \n
            I see you have problems with reading comprehension.\n
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            > If the West had not helped, there would be no Ukraine either. We would be condemning them to a decade of guerilla warfare and oppression. Emboldened by his victory, Putin would look further west.\n
            \n
            If the west didn’t run a coup to overthrow a democratically elected government then there would’ve been no troubles in Ukraine. Period.\n
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            > Ukrainians now fight Russia, both sides are getting exhausted and it all depends on what help Ukraine gets. Your magical peace treaty would just mean Russia trying this again in 5 years or less.\n
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            That’s complete and utter nonsense, and even western media now admits this.\n
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            > You could have used the same arguments to make peace with the Nazis in 1941 and the world would only be worse for it.\n
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            Now that’s what actual false equivalence looks like.
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            > Russian propaganda talking point.\n
            \n
            Ah yes, Russian propaganda point as reported by CNN back in 2014 [twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296](https://twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296)\n
            \n
            There’s even an hour long documentary from France on this [www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs)\n
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            Pretending this just didn’t happen is the height of intellectual dishonesty.\n
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            > Euromaidan was not a coup.\n
            \n
            Yes, it was and there’s overwhelming evidence for it.\n
            \n
            > Cite sources for the first point and military strategy analysts for the second.\n
            \n
            Are you just incapable of using google, I guess that would explain why you believe in nonsense. Here you go. First of all Russian economy is now rapidly growing while the west is going into a recession. This is not a country that’s showing any signs of being exhausted:\n
            \n
            - [newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-op…](https://www.newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-opinion-1861645)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-rosstat-2023-12-13/)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russian-factory-activity-expands-fa…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russian-factory-activity-expands-fastest-pace-seven-years-dec-pmi-2023-12-29/)\n
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            and here’s some recent mainstream media reporting on the state of the war for you to chew on\n
            \n
            - [www.nytimes.com/2024/…/ukraine-russia-war.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/13/world/europe/ukraine-russia-war.html)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defen…](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defence-minister-says-2024-01-10/)\n
            - [lepoint.fr/…/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d…](https://www.lepoint.fr/monde/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d-une-debacle-05-01-2024-2549049_24.php)\n
            - [lemonde.fr/…/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-ex…](https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2023/09/27/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-express-discontent-i-repeatedly-told-them-nato-manuals-didn-t-apply_6140349_4.html)\n
            - [spiegel.de/…/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-…](https://www.spiegel.de/politik/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-deutschen-pannen-panzern-a-cd9421ae-4a96-4d4f-983a-6205a063ae15)\n
            - [archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73](https://archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73)\n
            - [telegraph.co.uk/…/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-…](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/12/27/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-tide-war-ukraine/)\n
            - [www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/…/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/ukraine-war-victory-hopes-dim-intl/index.html)\n
            - [cbc.ca/…/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232](https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232)\n
            \n
            and here’s some analysis from military strategists for you\n
            \n
            - [www.russiamatters.org/…/whats-ahead-war-ukraine](https://www.russiamatters.org/analysis/whats-ahead-war-ukraine)\n
            - […substack.com/…/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukra…](https://mearsheimer.substack.com/p/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukraine)\n
            - [rusi.org/…/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challeng…](https://www.rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challenges-and-innovations)\n
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            Russia will win this war, and the only thing the west has achieved was to help destroy Ukraine by sabotaging negotiations in 2022.
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          +body: "Share a source for NATO invading Yugoslavia, Libya, Syria, and Afghanistan, is that what you’re asking there little buddy?"
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            Russian economy is growing while the west is going into a recession. [Russian factory activity grows at fastest pace in over six years](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-factory-activity-grows-fastest-pace-over-six-years-sept-pmi-2023-10-02/), meanwhile [while US manufacturing activity shrinks the most in three years.](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-07-03/us-manufacturing-activity-shrinks-by-most-in-three-years). UK now [can’t even make steel from raw materials.](https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/jan/18/tata-steel-to-shut-down-port-talbot-blast-furnaces-3000-jobs-at-risk)\n
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            Yes, people still bleat about a weaker Russia. 🤡
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          +body: "Here’s an idea go sign up as a volunteer in Ukraine and fight yourself instead of cheering on for other people to die for you, you disgusting sack of shit."
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            The fact that the west was deeply involved in the coup is well documented even in western media\n
            \n
            - [quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukr…](https://www.quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukraines-2014-revolution-was-due-to-a-CIA-coup) ([archive.ph/BAxYc](https://archive.ph/BAxYc))\n
            - [consortiumnews.com/…/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-i…](https://consortiumnews.com/2022/12/29/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-in-kiev/)\n
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            The foundations of my beliefs are that the west saw itself as the winner of the cold war after USSR dissolved, and decided to renege on all the promises that were made in the 90s. This created increasing tensions with Russia, and eventually led to the war we’re seeing play out in Ukraine. This is a proxy war between NATO and Russia, and it’s following the script that [was outlined by RAND](https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR3063.html).\n
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            The west made a huge miscalculation thinking that it could defeat Russia militarily and economically, and now the whole thing is starting to backfire. NATO is finding that it lacks the industrial base to sustain the conflict. Russia managed to reroute its trade away from the west, which caused immeasurable economic damage to Europe. The world outside the G7 has been increasingly aligning towards Russia and China and away from the west. This proxy war is heralding the end of the unipolar moment that US enjoyed and ushering in multipolarity.\n
            \n
            > I have been using Google for long enough to know that it often shows us what we want to see, not that which is most likely to be correct. :)\n
            \n
            Have you considered that this might be why you still think that Ukraine is winning despite all the evidence to the contrary?\n
            \n
            > Regarding Russian economic data you seem to be flaunting, Russia has made it hard for outside sources to verify any of it.\n
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            Every mainstream western outlet, including the IMF, agrees that Russian economy is growing. No serious economists dispute this.\n
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            > You seem to derive a lot of your opinions from mearsheimer.substack.com source but the sources the author uses to prove your points often come from rt.com which is like, the worst source for this discussion.\n
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            Mearsheimer is just one example, and he is a preeminent political scientist in the US. The reality is that there is propaganda in the west just like there is in Russia, and western media often omits covering things that RT covers. Simply dismissing information based on the source is frankly absurd.\n
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            Incidentally, Mearsheimer gave an entire lecture back in 2014 predicting the events in Ukraine that are currently unfolding, seems to me that he might know what he’s talking about [www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4)\n
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            > I will, however, refrain from posting on lemmy.ml in the future, because I can see that you are a mod of several communities on this instance and your overall conduct in this post has been rather childish and disrespectful. I feel like mods should hold themselves to a higher standard.\n
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            Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
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            The actual truth is that it’s NATO that’s been constantly expanding towards Russia. It’s also NATO that’s been invading and destroying countries since the end of USSR. Syria, Libya, and Yugoslavia being some prominent examples.\n
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            Meanwhile, Russia tried to resolve this situation diplomatically since 2008 with Minsk agreements that western leaders now openly admit were a delaying tactic by the west.\n
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            Finally, section IX of Ukraine’s 1990 Declaration of State Sovereignty states the following:\n
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            [The Ukrainian SSR solemnly declares its intention of becoming a permanently neutral state that does not participate in military blocs and adheres to three nuclear free principles: to accept, to produce and to purchase no nuclear weapons.](https://web.archive.org/web/20130615031823/https://static.rada.gov.ua/site/postanova_eng/Declaration_of_State_Sovereignty_of_Ukraine_rev1.htm)\n
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            The whole legal basis for the existence of state of Ukraine is predicated on Ukraine staying neutral and not joining military blocs. Ukraine broke the very basis of this agreement when it tried to join NATO.\n
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            Now, thanks to western “help”, Ukraine will lose far more territory than it would have if the deal was done last year, and it may even cease to exist as a state. I can’t wait for you to explain how this actually helps people of Ukraine.
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          +body: "NATO is an aggressive alliance that has invaded and destroyed numerous countries. The fact that you keep pretending that it’s a defensive alliance just shows how utterly dishonest you are."
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            > False equivalence.\n
            \n
            It’s not.\n
            \n
            > Because Russia attacked them.\n
            \n
            No, Ukraine has been engaged in atrocities in Donbas since 2014 as even western media reported at the time.\n
            \n
            > It is in fact the opposite. No neutral country stays that way for long when Russia wants it’s territory.\n
            \n
            I see you have problems with reading comprehension.\n
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            > If the West had not helped, there would be no Ukraine either. We would be condemning them to a decade of guerilla warfare and oppression. Emboldened by his victory, Putin would look further west.\n
            \n
            If the west didn’t run a coup to overthrow a democratically elected government then there would’ve been no troubles in Ukraine. Period.\n
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            > Ukrainians now fight Russia, both sides are getting exhausted and it all depends on what help Ukraine gets. Your magical peace treaty would just mean Russia trying this again in 5 years or less.\n
            \n
            That’s complete and utter nonsense, and even western media now admits this.\n
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            > You could have used the same arguments to make peace with the Nazis in 1941 and the world would only be worse for it.\n
            \n
            Now that’s what actual false equivalence looks like.
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            > Russian propaganda talking point.\n
            \n
            Ah yes, Russian propaganda point as reported by CNN back in 2014 [twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296](https://twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296)\n
            \n
            There’s even an hour long documentary from France on this [www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs)\n
            \n
            Pretending this just didn’t happen is the height of intellectual dishonesty.\n
            \n
            > Euromaidan was not a coup.\n
            \n
            Yes, it was and there’s overwhelming evidence for it.\n
            \n
            > Cite sources for the first point and military strategy analysts for the second.\n
            \n
            Are you just incapable of using google, I guess that would explain why you believe in nonsense. Here you go. First of all Russian economy is now rapidly growing while the west is going into a recession. This is not a country that’s showing any signs of being exhausted:\n
            \n
            - [newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-op…](https://www.newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-opinion-1861645)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-rosstat-2023-12-13/)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russian-factory-activity-expands-fa…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russian-factory-activity-expands-fastest-pace-seven-years-dec-pmi-2023-12-29/)\n
            \n
            and here’s some recent mainstream media reporting on the state of the war for you to chew on\n
            \n
            - [www.nytimes.com/2024/…/ukraine-russia-war.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/13/world/europe/ukraine-russia-war.html)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defen…](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defence-minister-says-2024-01-10/)\n
            - [lepoint.fr/…/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d…](https://www.lepoint.fr/monde/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d-une-debacle-05-01-2024-2549049_24.php)\n
            - [lemonde.fr/…/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-ex…](https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2023/09/27/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-express-discontent-i-repeatedly-told-them-nato-manuals-didn-t-apply_6140349_4.html)\n
            - [spiegel.de/…/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-…](https://www.spiegel.de/politik/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-deutschen-pannen-panzern-a-cd9421ae-4a96-4d4f-983a-6205a063ae15)\n
            - [archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73](https://archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73)\n
            - [telegraph.co.uk/…/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-…](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/12/27/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-tide-war-ukraine/)\n
            - [www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/…/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/ukraine-war-victory-hopes-dim-intl/index.html)\n
            - [cbc.ca/…/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232](https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232)\n
            \n
            and here’s some analysis from military strategists for you\n
            \n
            - [www.russiamatters.org/…/whats-ahead-war-ukraine](https://www.russiamatters.org/analysis/whats-ahead-war-ukraine)\n
            - […substack.com/…/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukra…](https://mearsheimer.substack.com/p/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukraine)\n
            - [rusi.org/…/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challeng…](https://www.rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challenges-and-innovations)\n
            \n
            Russia will win this war, and the only thing the west has achieved was to help destroy Ukraine by sabotaging negotiations in 2022.
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          +body: "Share a source for NATO invading Yugoslavia, Libya, Syria, and Afghanistan, is that what you’re asking there little buddy?"
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          +body: "No, I’m saying that anybody can type in words NATO and Yugoslavia or NATO and Libya into Google and see that you’re a liar."
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          +body: "🤡"
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            Russian economy is growing while the west is going into a recession. [Russian factory activity grows at fastest pace in over six years](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-factory-activity-grows-fastest-pace-over-six-years-sept-pmi-2023-10-02/), meanwhile [while US manufacturing activity shrinks the most in three years.](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-07-03/us-manufacturing-activity-shrinks-by-most-in-three-years). UK now [can’t even make steel from raw materials.](https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/jan/18/tata-steel-to-shut-down-port-talbot-blast-furnaces-3000-jobs-at-risk)\n
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            Yes, people still bleat about a weaker Russia. 🤡
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          +body: "Here’s an idea go sign up as a volunteer in Ukraine and fight yourself instead of cheering on for other people to die for you, you disgusting sack of shit."
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            The fact that the west was deeply involved in the coup is well documented even in western media\n
            \n
            - [quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukr…](https://www.quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukraines-2014-revolution-was-due-to-a-CIA-coup) ([archive.ph/BAxYc](https://archive.ph/BAxYc))\n
            - [consortiumnews.com/…/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-i…](https://consortiumnews.com/2022/12/29/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-in-kiev/)\n
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            The foundations of my beliefs are that the west saw itself as the winner of the cold war after USSR dissolved, and decided to renege on all the promises that were made in the 90s. This created increasing tensions with Russia, and eventually led to the war we’re seeing play out in Ukraine. This is a proxy war between NATO and Russia, and it’s following the script that [was outlined by RAND](https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR3063.html).\n
            \n
            The west made a huge miscalculation thinking that it could defeat Russia militarily and economically, and now the whole thing is starting to backfire. NATO is finding that it lacks the industrial base to sustain the conflict. Russia managed to reroute its trade away from the west, which caused immeasurable economic damage to Europe. The world outside the G7 has been increasingly aligning towards Russia and China and away from the west. This proxy war is heralding the end of the unipolar moment that US enjoyed and ushering in multipolarity.\n
            \n
            > I have been using Google for long enough to know that it often shows us what we want to see, not that which is most likely to be correct. :)\n
            \n
            Have you considered that this might be why you still think that Ukraine is winning despite all the evidence to the contrary?\n
            \n
            > Regarding Russian economic data you seem to be flaunting, Russia has made it hard for outside sources to verify any of it.\n
            \n
            Every mainstream western outlet, including the IMF, agrees that Russian economy is growing. No serious economists dispute this.\n
            \n
            > You seem to derive a lot of your opinions from mearsheimer.substack.com source but the sources the author uses to prove your points often come from rt.com which is like, the worst source for this discussion.\n
            \n
            Mearsheimer is just one example, and he is a preeminent political scientist in the US. The reality is that there is propaganda in the west just like there is in Russia, and western media often omits covering things that RT covers. Simply dismissing information based on the source is frankly absurd.\n
            \n
            Incidentally, Mearsheimer gave an entire lecture back in 2014 predicting the events in Ukraine that are currently unfolding, seems to me that he might know what he’s talking about [www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4)\n
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            > I will, however, refrain from posting on lemmy.ml in the future, because I can see that you are a mod of several communities on this instance and your overall conduct in this post has been rather childish and disrespectful. I feel like mods should hold themselves to a higher standard.\n
            \n
            Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
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          +body: "NATO is an aggressive alliance that has invaded and destroyed numerous countries. The fact that you keep pretending that it’s a defensive alliance just shows how utterly dishonest you are."
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            > False equivalence.\n
            \n
            It’s not.\n
            \n
            > Because Russia attacked them.\n
            \n
            No, Ukraine has been engaged in atrocities in Donbas since 2014 as even western media reported at the time.\n
            \n
            > It is in fact the opposite. No neutral country stays that way for long when Russia wants it’s territory.\n
            \n
            I see you have problems with reading comprehension.\n
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            > If the West had not helped, there would be no Ukraine either. We would be condemning them to a decade of guerilla warfare and oppression. Emboldened by his victory, Putin would look further west.\n
            \n
            If the west didn’t run a coup to overthrow a democratically elected government then there would’ve been no troubles in Ukraine. Period.\n
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            > Ukrainians now fight Russia, both sides are getting exhausted and it all depends on what help Ukraine gets. Your magical peace treaty would just mean Russia trying this again in 5 years or less.\n
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            That’s complete and utter nonsense, and even western media now admits this.\n
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            > You could have used the same arguments to make peace with the Nazis in 1941 and the world would only be worse for it.\n
            \n
            Now that’s what actual false equivalence looks like.
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            > Russian propaganda talking point.\n
            \n
            Ah yes, Russian propaganda point as reported by CNN back in 2014 [twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296](https://twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296)\n
            \n
            There’s even an hour long documentary from France on this [www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs)\n
            \n
            Pretending this just didn’t happen is the height of intellectual dishonesty.\n
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            > Euromaidan was not a coup.\n
            \n
            Yes, it was and there’s overwhelming evidence for it.\n
            \n
            > Cite sources for the first point and military strategy analysts for the second.\n
            \n
            Are you just incapable of using google, I guess that would explain why you believe in nonsense. Here you go. First of all Russian economy is now rapidly growing while the west is going into a recession. This is not a country that’s showing any signs of being exhausted:\n
            \n
            - [newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-op…](https://www.newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-opinion-1861645)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-rosstat-2023-12-13/)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russian-factory-activity-expands-fa…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russian-factory-activity-expands-fastest-pace-seven-years-dec-pmi-2023-12-29/)\n
            \n
            and here’s some recent mainstream media reporting on the state of the war for you to chew on\n
            \n
            - [www.nytimes.com/2024/…/ukraine-russia-war.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/13/world/europe/ukraine-russia-war.html)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defen…](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defence-minister-says-2024-01-10/)\n
            - [lepoint.fr/…/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d…](https://www.lepoint.fr/monde/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d-une-debacle-05-01-2024-2549049_24.php)\n
            - [lemonde.fr/…/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-ex…](https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2023/09/27/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-express-discontent-i-repeatedly-told-them-nato-manuals-didn-t-apply_6140349_4.html)\n
            - [spiegel.de/…/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-…](https://www.spiegel.de/politik/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-deutschen-pannen-panzern-a-cd9421ae-4a96-4d4f-983a-6205a063ae15)\n
            - [archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73](https://archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73)\n
            - [telegraph.co.uk/…/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-…](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/12/27/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-tide-war-ukraine/)\n
            - [www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/…/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/ukraine-war-victory-hopes-dim-intl/index.html)\n
            - [cbc.ca/…/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232](https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232)\n
            \n
            and here’s some analysis from military strategists for you\n
            \n
            - [www.russiamatters.org/…/whats-ahead-war-ukraine](https://www.russiamatters.org/analysis/whats-ahead-war-ukraine)\n
            - […substack.com/…/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukra…](https://mearsheimer.substack.com/p/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukraine)\n
            - [rusi.org/…/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challeng…](https://www.rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challenges-and-innovations)\n
            \n
            Russia will win this war, and the only thing the west has achieved was to help destroy Ukraine by sabotaging negotiations in 2022.
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          +body: "Share a source for NATO invading Yugoslavia, Libya, Syria, and Afghanistan, is that what you’re asking there little buddy?"
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          +body: "No, I’m saying that anybody can type in words NATO and Yugoslavia or NATO and Libya into Google and see that you’re a liar."
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            Russian economy is growing while the west is going into a recession. [Russian factory activity grows at fastest pace in over six years](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-factory-activity-grows-fastest-pace-over-six-years-sept-pmi-2023-10-02/), meanwhile [while US manufacturing activity shrinks the most in three years.](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-07-03/us-manufacturing-activity-shrinks-by-most-in-three-years). UK now [can’t even make steel from raw materials.](https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/jan/18/tata-steel-to-shut-down-port-talbot-blast-furnaces-3000-jobs-at-risk)\n
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            Yes, people still bleat about a weaker Russia. 🤡
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            The fact that the west was deeply involved in the coup is well documented even in western media\n
            \n
            - [quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukr…](https://www.quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukraines-2014-revolution-was-due-to-a-CIA-coup) ([archive.ph/BAxYc](https://archive.ph/BAxYc))\n
            - [consortiumnews.com/…/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-i…](https://consortiumnews.com/2022/12/29/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-in-kiev/)\n
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            The foundations of my beliefs are that the west saw itself as the winner of the cold war after USSR dissolved, and decided to renege on all the promises that were made in the 90s. This created increasing tensions with Russia, and eventually led to the war we’re seeing play out in Ukraine. This is a proxy war between NATO and Russia, and it’s following the script that [was outlined by RAND](https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR3063.html).\n
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            The west made a huge miscalculation thinking that it could defeat Russia militarily and economically, and now the whole thing is starting to backfire. NATO is finding that it lacks the industrial base to sustain the conflict. Russia managed to reroute its trade away from the west, which caused immeasurable economic damage to Europe. The world outside the G7 has been increasingly aligning towards Russia and China and away from the west. This proxy war is heralding the end of the unipolar moment that US enjoyed and ushering in multipolarity.\n
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            > I have been using Google for long enough to know that it often shows us what we want to see, not that which is most likely to be correct. :)\n
            \n
            Have you considered that this might be why you still think that Ukraine is winning despite all the evidence to the contrary?\n
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            > Regarding Russian economic data you seem to be flaunting, Russia has made it hard for outside sources to verify any of it.\n
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            Every mainstream western outlet, including the IMF, agrees that Russian economy is growing. No serious economists dispute this.\n
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            > You seem to derive a lot of your opinions from mearsheimer.substack.com source but the sources the author uses to prove your points often come from rt.com which is like, the worst source for this discussion.\n
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            Mearsheimer is just one example, and he is a preeminent political scientist in the US. The reality is that there is propaganda in the west just like there is in Russia, and western media often omits covering things that RT covers. Simply dismissing information based on the source is frankly absurd.\n
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            Incidentally, Mearsheimer gave an entire lecture back in 2014 predicting the events in Ukraine that are currently unfolding, seems to me that he might know what he’s talking about [www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4)\n
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            > I will, however, refrain from posting on lemmy.ml in the future, because I can see that you are a mod of several communities on this instance and your overall conduct in this post has been rather childish and disrespectful. I feel like mods should hold themselves to a higher standard.\n
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            Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
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            The actual truth is that it’s NATO that’s been constantly expanding towards Russia. It’s also NATO that’s been invading and destroying countries since the end of USSR. Syria, Libya, and Yugoslavia being some prominent examples.\n
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            Meanwhile, Russia tried to resolve this situation diplomatically since 2008 with Minsk agreements that western leaders now openly admit were a delaying tactic by the west.\n
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            Finally, section IX of Ukraine’s 1990 Declaration of State Sovereignty states the following:\n
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            Now, thanks to western “help”, Ukraine will lose far more territory than it would have if the deal was done last year, and it may even cease to exist as a state. I can’t wait for you to explain how this actually helps people of Ukraine.
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          +body: "NATO is an aggressive alliance that has invaded and destroyed numerous countries. The fact that you keep pretending that it’s a defensive alliance just shows how utterly dishonest you are."
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            > False equivalence.\n
            \n
            It’s not.\n
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            > Because Russia attacked them.\n
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            No, Ukraine has been engaged in atrocities in Donbas since 2014 as even western media reported at the time.\n
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            > It is in fact the opposite. No neutral country stays that way for long when Russia wants it’s territory.\n
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            I see you have problems with reading comprehension.\n
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            If the west didn’t run a coup to overthrow a democratically elected government then there would’ve been no troubles in Ukraine. Period.\n
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            > Ukrainians now fight Russia, both sides are getting exhausted and it all depends on what help Ukraine gets. Your magical peace treaty would just mean Russia trying this again in 5 years or less.\n
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            That’s complete and utter nonsense, and even western media now admits this.\n
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            > You could have used the same arguments to make peace with the Nazis in 1941 and the world would only be worse for it.\n
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            Now that’s what actual false equivalence looks like.
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            > Russian propaganda talking point.\n
            \n
            Ah yes, Russian propaganda point as reported by CNN back in 2014 [twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296](https://twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296)\n
            \n
            There’s even an hour long documentary from France on this [www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs)\n
            \n
            Pretending this just didn’t happen is the height of intellectual dishonesty.\n
            \n
            > Euromaidan was not a coup.\n
            \n
            Yes, it was and there’s overwhelming evidence for it.\n
            \n
            > Cite sources for the first point and military strategy analysts for the second.\n
            \n
            Are you just incapable of using google, I guess that would explain why you believe in nonsense. Here you go. First of all Russian economy is now rapidly growing while the west is going into a recession. This is not a country that’s showing any signs of being exhausted:\n
            \n
            - [newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-op…](https://www.newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-opinion-1861645)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-rosstat-2023-12-13/)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russian-factory-activity-expands-fa…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russian-factory-activity-expands-fastest-pace-seven-years-dec-pmi-2023-12-29/)\n
            \n
            and here’s some recent mainstream media reporting on the state of the war for you to chew on\n
            \n
            - [www.nytimes.com/2024/…/ukraine-russia-war.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/13/world/europe/ukraine-russia-war.html)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defen…](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defence-minister-says-2024-01-10/)\n
            - [lepoint.fr/…/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d…](https://www.lepoint.fr/monde/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d-une-debacle-05-01-2024-2549049_24.php)\n
            - [lemonde.fr/…/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-ex…](https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2023/09/27/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-express-discontent-i-repeatedly-told-them-nato-manuals-didn-t-apply_6140349_4.html)\n
            - [spiegel.de/…/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-…](https://www.spiegel.de/politik/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-deutschen-pannen-panzern-a-cd9421ae-4a96-4d4f-983a-6205a063ae15)\n
            - [archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73](https://archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73)\n
            - [telegraph.co.uk/…/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-…](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/12/27/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-tide-war-ukraine/)\n
            - [www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/…/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/ukraine-war-victory-hopes-dim-intl/index.html)\n
            - [cbc.ca/…/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232](https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232)\n
            \n
            and here’s some analysis from military strategists for you\n
            \n
            - [www.russiamatters.org/…/whats-ahead-war-ukraine](https://www.russiamatters.org/analysis/whats-ahead-war-ukraine)\n
            - […substack.com/…/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukra…](https://mearsheimer.substack.com/p/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukraine)\n
            - [rusi.org/…/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challeng…](https://www.rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challenges-and-innovations)\n
            \n
            Russia will win this war, and the only thing the west has achieved was to help destroy Ukraine by sabotaging negotiations in 2022.
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          +body: "Share a source for NATO invading Yugoslavia, Libya, Syria, and Afghanistan, is that what you’re asking there little buddy?"
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            Russian economy is growing while the west is going into a recession. [Russian factory activity grows at fastest pace in over six years](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-factory-activity-grows-fastest-pace-over-six-years-sept-pmi-2023-10-02/), meanwhile [while US manufacturing activity shrinks the most in three years.](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-07-03/us-manufacturing-activity-shrinks-by-most-in-three-years). UK now [can’t even make steel from raw materials.](https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/jan/18/tata-steel-to-shut-down-port-talbot-blast-furnaces-3000-jobs-at-risk)\n
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            The fact that the west was deeply involved in the coup is well documented even in western media\n
            \n
            - [quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukr…](https://www.quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukraines-2014-revolution-was-due-to-a-CIA-coup) ([archive.ph/BAxYc](https://archive.ph/BAxYc))\n
            - [consortiumnews.com/…/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-i…](https://consortiumnews.com/2022/12/29/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-in-kiev/)\n
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            The foundations of my beliefs are that the west saw itself as the winner of the cold war after USSR dissolved, and decided to renege on all the promises that were made in the 90s. This created increasing tensions with Russia, and eventually led to the war we’re seeing play out in Ukraine. This is a proxy war between NATO and Russia, and it’s following the script that [was outlined by RAND](https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR3063.html).\n
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            The west made a huge miscalculation thinking that it could defeat Russia militarily and economically, and now the whole thing is starting to backfire. NATO is finding that it lacks the industrial base to sustain the conflict. Russia managed to reroute its trade away from the west, which caused immeasurable economic damage to Europe. The world outside the G7 has been increasingly aligning towards Russia and China and away from the west. This proxy war is heralding the end of the unipolar moment that US enjoyed and ushering in multipolarity.\n
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            > I have been using Google for long enough to know that it often shows us what we want to see, not that which is most likely to be correct. :)\n
            \n
            Have you considered that this might be why you still think that Ukraine is winning despite all the evidence to the contrary?\n
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            > Regarding Russian economic data you seem to be flaunting, Russia has made it hard for outside sources to verify any of it.\n
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            Every mainstream western outlet, including the IMF, agrees that Russian economy is growing. No serious economists dispute this.\n
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            > You seem to derive a lot of your opinions from mearsheimer.substack.com source but the sources the author uses to prove your points often come from rt.com which is like, the worst source for this discussion.\n
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            Mearsheimer is just one example, and he is a preeminent political scientist in the US. The reality is that there is propaganda in the west just like there is in Russia, and western media often omits covering things that RT covers. Simply dismissing information based on the source is frankly absurd.\n
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            Incidentally, Mearsheimer gave an entire lecture back in 2014 predicting the events in Ukraine that are currently unfolding, seems to me that he might know what he’s talking about [www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4)\n
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            > I will, however, refrain from posting on lemmy.ml in the future, because I can see that you are a mod of several communities on this instance and your overall conduct in this post has been rather childish and disrespectful. I feel like mods should hold themselves to a higher standard.\n
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            Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
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          +body: "After two years, it’s pretty clear that the west is not capable of doing anything of the sort. All the west managed to achieve was to ensure that hundreds of thousands of people died, and that Ukraine lost large parts of its territory in the process. We now have admissions from Ukrainian negotiators that a peace deal was close to being reached last March before the west sabotaged it."
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            The actual truth is that it’s NATO that’s been constantly expanding towards Russia. It’s also NATO that’s been invading and destroying countries since the end of USSR. Syria, Libya, and Yugoslavia being some prominent examples.\n
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            Meanwhile, Russia tried to resolve this situation diplomatically since 2008 with Minsk agreements that western leaders now openly admit were a delaying tactic by the west.\n
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            Finally, section IX of Ukraine’s 1990 Declaration of State Sovereignty states the following:\n
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            The whole legal basis for the existence of state of Ukraine is predicated on Ukraine staying neutral and not joining military blocs. Ukraine broke the very basis of this agreement when it tried to join NATO.\n
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            Now, thanks to western “help”, Ukraine will lose far more territory than it would have if the deal was done last year, and it may even cease to exist as a state. I can’t wait for you to explain how this actually helps people of Ukraine.
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          +body: "NATO is an aggressive alliance that has invaded and destroyed numerous countries. The fact that you keep pretending that it’s a defensive alliance just shows how utterly dishonest you are."
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            > False equivalence.\n
            \n
            It’s not.\n
            \n
            > Because Russia attacked them.\n
            \n
            No, Ukraine has been engaged in atrocities in Donbas since 2014 as even western media reported at the time.\n
            \n
            > It is in fact the opposite. No neutral country stays that way for long when Russia wants it’s territory.\n
            \n
            I see you have problems with reading comprehension.\n
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            > If the West had not helped, there would be no Ukraine either. We would be condemning them to a decade of guerilla warfare and oppression. Emboldened by his victory, Putin would look further west.\n
            \n
            If the west didn’t run a coup to overthrow a democratically elected government then there would’ve been no troubles in Ukraine. Period.\n
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            > Ukrainians now fight Russia, both sides are getting exhausted and it all depends on what help Ukraine gets. Your magical peace treaty would just mean Russia trying this again in 5 years or less.\n
            \n
            That’s complete and utter nonsense, and even western media now admits this.\n
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            > You could have used the same arguments to make peace with the Nazis in 1941 and the world would only be worse for it.\n
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            Now that’s what actual false equivalence looks like.
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            > Russian propaganda talking point.\n
            \n
            Ah yes, Russian propaganda point as reported by CNN back in 2014 [twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296](https://twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296)\n
            \n
            There’s even an hour long documentary from France on this [www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs)\n
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            Pretending this just didn’t happen is the height of intellectual dishonesty.\n
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            > Euromaidan was not a coup.\n
            \n
            Yes, it was and there’s overwhelming evidence for it.\n
            \n
            > Cite sources for the first point and military strategy analysts for the second.\n
            \n
            Are you just incapable of using google, I guess that would explain why you believe in nonsense. Here you go. First of all Russian economy is now rapidly growing while the west is going into a recession. This is not a country that’s showing any signs of being exhausted:\n
            \n
            - [newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-op…](https://www.newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-opinion-1861645)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-rosstat-2023-12-13/)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russian-factory-activity-expands-fa…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russian-factory-activity-expands-fastest-pace-seven-years-dec-pmi-2023-12-29/)\n
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            and here’s some recent mainstream media reporting on the state of the war for you to chew on\n
            \n
            - [www.nytimes.com/2024/…/ukraine-russia-war.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/13/world/europe/ukraine-russia-war.html)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defen…](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defence-minister-says-2024-01-10/)\n
            - [lepoint.fr/…/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d…](https://www.lepoint.fr/monde/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d-une-debacle-05-01-2024-2549049_24.php)\n
            - [lemonde.fr/…/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-ex…](https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2023/09/27/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-express-discontent-i-repeatedly-told-them-nato-manuals-didn-t-apply_6140349_4.html)\n
            - [spiegel.de/…/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-…](https://www.spiegel.de/politik/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-deutschen-pannen-panzern-a-cd9421ae-4a96-4d4f-983a-6205a063ae15)\n
            - [archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73](https://archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73)\n
            - [telegraph.co.uk/…/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-…](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/12/27/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-tide-war-ukraine/)\n
            - [www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/…/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/ukraine-war-victory-hopes-dim-intl/index.html)\n
            - [cbc.ca/…/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232](https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232)\n
            \n
            and here’s some analysis from military strategists for you\n
            \n
            - [www.russiamatters.org/…/whats-ahead-war-ukraine](https://www.russiamatters.org/analysis/whats-ahead-war-ukraine)\n
            - […substack.com/…/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukra…](https://mearsheimer.substack.com/p/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukraine)\n
            - [rusi.org/…/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challeng…](https://www.rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challenges-and-innovations)\n
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            Russia will win this war, and the only thing the west has achieved was to help destroy Ukraine by sabotaging negotiations in 2022.
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          +body: "Share a source for NATO invading Yugoslavia, Libya, Syria, and Afghanistan, is that what you’re asking there little buddy?"
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            Russian economy is growing while the west is going into a recession. [Russian factory activity grows at fastest pace in over six years](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-factory-activity-grows-fastest-pace-over-six-years-sept-pmi-2023-10-02/), meanwhile [while US manufacturing activity shrinks the most in three years.](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-07-03/us-manufacturing-activity-shrinks-by-most-in-three-years). UK now [can’t even make steel from raw materials.](https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/jan/18/tata-steel-to-shut-down-port-talbot-blast-furnaces-3000-jobs-at-risk)\n
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            Yes, people still bleat about a weaker Russia. 🤡
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          +body: "Here’s an idea go sign up as a volunteer in Ukraine and fight yourself instead of cheering on for other people to die for you, you disgusting sack of shit."
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            The fact that the west was deeply involved in the coup is well documented even in western media\n
            \n
            - [quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukr…](https://www.quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukraines-2014-revolution-was-due-to-a-CIA-coup) ([archive.ph/BAxYc](https://archive.ph/BAxYc))\n
            - [consortiumnews.com/…/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-i…](https://consortiumnews.com/2022/12/29/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-in-kiev/)\n
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            The foundations of my beliefs are that the west saw itself as the winner of the cold war after USSR dissolved, and decided to renege on all the promises that were made in the 90s. This created increasing tensions with Russia, and eventually led to the war we’re seeing play out in Ukraine. This is a proxy war between NATO and Russia, and it’s following the script that [was outlined by RAND](https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR3063.html).\n
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            The west made a huge miscalculation thinking that it could defeat Russia militarily and economically, and now the whole thing is starting to backfire. NATO is finding that it lacks the industrial base to sustain the conflict. Russia managed to reroute its trade away from the west, which caused immeasurable economic damage to Europe. The world outside the G7 has been increasingly aligning towards Russia and China and away from the west. This proxy war is heralding the end of the unipolar moment that US enjoyed and ushering in multipolarity.\n
            \n
            > I have been using Google for long enough to know that it often shows us what we want to see, not that which is most likely to be correct. :)\n
            \n
            Have you considered that this might be why you still think that Ukraine is winning despite all the evidence to the contrary?\n
            \n
            > Regarding Russian economic data you seem to be flaunting, Russia has made it hard for outside sources to verify any of it.\n
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            Every mainstream western outlet, including the IMF, agrees that Russian economy is growing. No serious economists dispute this.\n
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            > You seem to derive a lot of your opinions from mearsheimer.substack.com source but the sources the author uses to prove your points often come from rt.com which is like, the worst source for this discussion.\n
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            Mearsheimer is just one example, and he is a preeminent political scientist in the US. The reality is that there is propaganda in the west just like there is in Russia, and western media often omits covering things that RT covers. Simply dismissing information based on the source is frankly absurd.\n
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            Incidentally, Mearsheimer gave an entire lecture back in 2014 predicting the events in Ukraine that are currently unfolding, seems to me that he might know what he’s talking about [www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4)\n
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            > I will, however, refrain from posting on lemmy.ml in the future, because I can see that you are a mod of several communities on this instance and your overall conduct in this post has been rather childish and disrespectful. I feel like mods should hold themselves to a higher standard.\n
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            Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
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            The actual truth is that it’s NATO that’s been constantly expanding towards Russia. It’s also NATO that’s been invading and destroying countries since the end of USSR. Syria, Libya, and Yugoslavia being some prominent examples.\n
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          +body: "NATO is an aggressive alliance that has invaded and destroyed numerous countries. The fact that you keep pretending that it’s a defensive alliance just shows how utterly dishonest you are."
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            > False equivalence.\n
            \n
            It’s not.\n
            \n
            > Because Russia attacked them.\n
            \n
            No, Ukraine has been engaged in atrocities in Donbas since 2014 as even western media reported at the time.\n
            \n
            > It is in fact the opposite. No neutral country stays that way for long when Russia wants it’s territory.\n
            \n
            I see you have problems with reading comprehension.\n
            \n
            > If the West had not helped, there would be no Ukraine either. We would be condemning them to a decade of guerilla warfare and oppression. Emboldened by his victory, Putin would look further west.\n
            \n
            If the west didn’t run a coup to overthrow a democratically elected government then there would’ve been no troubles in Ukraine. Period.\n
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            > Ukrainians now fight Russia, both sides are getting exhausted and it all depends on what help Ukraine gets. Your magical peace treaty would just mean Russia trying this again in 5 years or less.\n
            \n
            That’s complete and utter nonsense, and even western media now admits this.\n
            \n
            > You could have used the same arguments to make peace with the Nazis in 1941 and the world would only be worse for it.\n
            \n
            Now that’s what actual false equivalence looks like.
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            > Russian propaganda talking point.\n
            \n
            Ah yes, Russian propaganda point as reported by CNN back in 2014 [twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296](https://twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296)\n
            \n
            There’s even an hour long documentary from France on this [www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs)\n
            \n
            Pretending this just didn’t happen is the height of intellectual dishonesty.\n
            \n
            > Euromaidan was not a coup.\n
            \n
            Yes, it was and there’s overwhelming evidence for it.\n
            \n
            > Cite sources for the first point and military strategy analysts for the second.\n
            \n
            Are you just incapable of using google, I guess that would explain why you believe in nonsense. Here you go. First of all Russian economy is now rapidly growing while the west is going into a recession. This is not a country that’s showing any signs of being exhausted:\n
            \n
            - [newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-op…](https://www.newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-opinion-1861645)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-rosstat-2023-12-13/)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russian-factory-activity-expands-fa…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russian-factory-activity-expands-fastest-pace-seven-years-dec-pmi-2023-12-29/)\n
            \n
            and here’s some recent mainstream media reporting on the state of the war for you to chew on\n
            \n
            - [www.nytimes.com/2024/…/ukraine-russia-war.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/13/world/europe/ukraine-russia-war.html)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defen…](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defence-minister-says-2024-01-10/)\n
            - [lepoint.fr/…/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d…](https://www.lepoint.fr/monde/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d-une-debacle-05-01-2024-2549049_24.php)\n
            - [lemonde.fr/…/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-ex…](https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2023/09/27/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-express-discontent-i-repeatedly-told-them-nato-manuals-didn-t-apply_6140349_4.html)\n
            - [spiegel.de/…/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-…](https://www.spiegel.de/politik/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-deutschen-pannen-panzern-a-cd9421ae-4a96-4d4f-983a-6205a063ae15)\n
            - [archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73](https://archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73)\n
            - [telegraph.co.uk/…/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-…](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/12/27/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-tide-war-ukraine/)\n
            - [www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/…/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/ukraine-war-victory-hopes-dim-intl/index.html)\n
            - [cbc.ca/…/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232](https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232)\n
            \n
            and here’s some analysis from military strategists for you\n
            \n
            - [www.russiamatters.org/…/whats-ahead-war-ukraine](https://www.russiamatters.org/analysis/whats-ahead-war-ukraine)\n
            - […substack.com/…/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukra…](https://mearsheimer.substack.com/p/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukraine)\n
            - [rusi.org/…/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challeng…](https://www.rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challenges-and-innovations)\n
            \n
            Russia will win this war, and the only thing the west has achieved was to help destroy Ukraine by sabotaging negotiations in 2022.
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          +body: "Share a source for NATO invading Yugoslavia, Libya, Syria, and Afghanistan, is that what you’re asking there little buddy?"
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            Russian economy is growing while the west is going into a recession. [Russian factory activity grows at fastest pace in over six years](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-factory-activity-grows-fastest-pace-over-six-years-sept-pmi-2023-10-02/), meanwhile [while US manufacturing activity shrinks the most in three years.](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-07-03/us-manufacturing-activity-shrinks-by-most-in-three-years). UK now [can’t even make steel from raw materials.](https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/jan/18/tata-steel-to-shut-down-port-talbot-blast-furnaces-3000-jobs-at-risk)\n
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            The fact that the west was deeply involved in the coup is well documented even in western media\n
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            - [quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukr…](https://www.quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukraines-2014-revolution-was-due-to-a-CIA-coup) ([archive.ph/BAxYc](https://archive.ph/BAxYc))\n
            - [consortiumnews.com/…/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-i…](https://consortiumnews.com/2022/12/29/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-in-kiev/)\n
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            The foundations of my beliefs are that the west saw itself as the winner of the cold war after USSR dissolved, and decided to renege on all the promises that were made in the 90s. This created increasing tensions with Russia, and eventually led to the war we’re seeing play out in Ukraine. This is a proxy war between NATO and Russia, and it’s following the script that [was outlined by RAND](https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR3063.html).\n
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            The west made a huge miscalculation thinking that it could defeat Russia militarily and economically, and now the whole thing is starting to backfire. NATO is finding that it lacks the industrial base to sustain the conflict. Russia managed to reroute its trade away from the west, which caused immeasurable economic damage to Europe. The world outside the G7 has been increasingly aligning towards Russia and China and away from the west. This proxy war is heralding the end of the unipolar moment that US enjoyed and ushering in multipolarity.\n
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            > I have been using Google for long enough to know that it often shows us what we want to see, not that which is most likely to be correct. :)\n
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            Have you considered that this might be why you still think that Ukraine is winning despite all the evidence to the contrary?\n
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            > Regarding Russian economic data you seem to be flaunting, Russia has made it hard for outside sources to verify any of it.\n
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            Every mainstream western outlet, including the IMF, agrees that Russian economy is growing. No serious economists dispute this.\n
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            > You seem to derive a lot of your opinions from mearsheimer.substack.com source but the sources the author uses to prove your points often come from rt.com which is like, the worst source for this discussion.\n
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            Mearsheimer is just one example, and he is a preeminent political scientist in the US. The reality is that there is propaganda in the west just like there is in Russia, and western media often omits covering things that RT covers. Simply dismissing information based on the source is frankly absurd.\n
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            Incidentally, Mearsheimer gave an entire lecture back in 2014 predicting the events in Ukraine that are currently unfolding, seems to me that he might know what he’s talking about [www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4)\n
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            > I will, however, refrain from posting on lemmy.ml in the future, because I can see that you are a mod of several communities on this instance and your overall conduct in this post has been rather childish and disrespectful. I feel like mods should hold themselves to a higher standard.\n
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            Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
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          +body: "After two years, it’s pretty clear that the west is not capable of doing anything of the sort. All the west managed to achieve was to ensure that hundreds of thousands of people died, and that Ukraine lost large parts of its territory in the process. We now have admissions from Ukrainian negotiators that a peace deal was close to being reached last March before the west sabotaged it."
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            The actual truth is that it’s NATO that’s been constantly expanding towards Russia. It’s also NATO that’s been invading and destroying countries since the end of USSR. Syria, Libya, and Yugoslavia being some prominent examples.\n
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            Meanwhile, Russia tried to resolve this situation diplomatically since 2008 with Minsk agreements that western leaders now openly admit were a delaying tactic by the west.\n
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            Finally, section IX of Ukraine’s 1990 Declaration of State Sovereignty states the following:\n
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            The whole legal basis for the existence of state of Ukraine is predicated on Ukraine staying neutral and not joining military blocs. Ukraine broke the very basis of this agreement when it tried to join NATO.\n
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            Now, thanks to western “help”, Ukraine will lose far more territory than it would have if the deal was done last year, and it may even cease to exist as a state. I can’t wait for you to explain how this actually helps people of Ukraine.
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          +body: "NATO is an aggressive alliance that has invaded and destroyed numerous countries. The fact that you keep pretending that it’s a defensive alliance just shows how utterly dishonest you are."
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            > False equivalence.\n
            \n
            It’s not.\n
            \n
            > Because Russia attacked them.\n
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            No, Ukraine has been engaged in atrocities in Donbas since 2014 as even western media reported at the time.\n
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            > It is in fact the opposite. No neutral country stays that way for long when Russia wants it’s territory.\n
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            I see you have problems with reading comprehension.\n
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            > If the West had not helped, there would be no Ukraine either. We would be condemning them to a decade of guerilla warfare and oppression. Emboldened by his victory, Putin would look further west.\n
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            If the west didn’t run a coup to overthrow a democratically elected government then there would’ve been no troubles in Ukraine. Period.\n
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            > Ukrainians now fight Russia, both sides are getting exhausted and it all depends on what help Ukraine gets. Your magical peace treaty would just mean Russia trying this again in 5 years or less.\n
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            That’s complete and utter nonsense, and even western media now admits this.\n
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            > You could have used the same arguments to make peace with the Nazis in 1941 and the world would only be worse for it.\n
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            Now that’s what actual false equivalence looks like.
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            > Russian propaganda talking point.\n
            \n
            Ah yes, Russian propaganda point as reported by CNN back in 2014 [twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296](https://twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296)\n
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            There’s even an hour long documentary from France on this [www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs)\n
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            Pretending this just didn’t happen is the height of intellectual dishonesty.\n
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            > Euromaidan was not a coup.\n
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            Yes, it was and there’s overwhelming evidence for it.\n
            \n
            > Cite sources for the first point and military strategy analysts for the second.\n
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            Are you just incapable of using google, I guess that would explain why you believe in nonsense. Here you go. First of all Russian economy is now rapidly growing while the west is going into a recession. This is not a country that’s showing any signs of being exhausted:\n
            \n
            - [newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-op…](https://www.newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-opinion-1861645)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-rosstat-2023-12-13/)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russian-factory-activity-expands-fa…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russian-factory-activity-expands-fastest-pace-seven-years-dec-pmi-2023-12-29/)\n
            \n
            and here’s some recent mainstream media reporting on the state of the war for you to chew on\n
            \n
            - [www.nytimes.com/2024/…/ukraine-russia-war.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/13/world/europe/ukraine-russia-war.html)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defen…](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defence-minister-says-2024-01-10/)\n
            - [lepoint.fr/…/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d…](https://www.lepoint.fr/monde/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d-une-debacle-05-01-2024-2549049_24.php)\n
            - [lemonde.fr/…/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-ex…](https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2023/09/27/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-express-discontent-i-repeatedly-told-them-nato-manuals-didn-t-apply_6140349_4.html)\n
            - [spiegel.de/…/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-…](https://www.spiegel.de/politik/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-deutschen-pannen-panzern-a-cd9421ae-4a96-4d4f-983a-6205a063ae15)\n
            - [archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73](https://archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73)\n
            - [telegraph.co.uk/…/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-…](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/12/27/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-tide-war-ukraine/)\n
            - [www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/…/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/ukraine-war-victory-hopes-dim-intl/index.html)\n
            - [cbc.ca/…/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232](https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232)\n
            \n
            and here’s some analysis from military strategists for you\n
            \n
            - [www.russiamatters.org/…/whats-ahead-war-ukraine](https://www.russiamatters.org/analysis/whats-ahead-war-ukraine)\n
            - […substack.com/…/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukra…](https://mearsheimer.substack.com/p/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukraine)\n
            - [rusi.org/…/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challeng…](https://www.rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challenges-and-innovations)\n
            \n
            Russia will win this war, and the only thing the west has achieved was to help destroy Ukraine by sabotaging negotiations in 2022.
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          +body: "Share a source for NATO invading Yugoslavia, Libya, Syria, and Afghanistan, is that what you’re asking there little buddy?"
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            Russian economy is growing while the west is going into a recession. [Russian factory activity grows at fastest pace in over six years](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-factory-activity-grows-fastest-pace-over-six-years-sept-pmi-2023-10-02/), meanwhile [while US manufacturing activity shrinks the most in three years.](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-07-03/us-manufacturing-activity-shrinks-by-most-in-three-years). UK now [can’t even make steel from raw materials.](https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/jan/18/tata-steel-to-shut-down-port-talbot-blast-furnaces-3000-jobs-at-risk)\n
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            The fact that the west was deeply involved in the coup is well documented even in western media\n
            \n
            - [quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukr…](https://www.quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukraines-2014-revolution-was-due-to-a-CIA-coup) ([archive.ph/BAxYc](https://archive.ph/BAxYc))\n
            - [consortiumnews.com/…/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-i…](https://consortiumnews.com/2022/12/29/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-in-kiev/)\n
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            The foundations of my beliefs are that the west saw itself as the winner of the cold war after USSR dissolved, and decided to renege on all the promises that were made in the 90s. This created increasing tensions with Russia, and eventually led to the war we’re seeing play out in Ukraine. This is a proxy war between NATO and Russia, and it’s following the script that [was outlined by RAND](https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR3063.html).\n
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            The west made a huge miscalculation thinking that it could defeat Russia militarily and economically, and now the whole thing is starting to backfire. NATO is finding that it lacks the industrial base to sustain the conflict. Russia managed to reroute its trade away from the west, which caused immeasurable economic damage to Europe. The world outside the G7 has been increasingly aligning towards Russia and China and away from the west. This proxy war is heralding the end of the unipolar moment that US enjoyed and ushering in multipolarity.\n
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            > I have been using Google for long enough to know that it often shows us what we want to see, not that which is most likely to be correct. :)\n
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            Have you considered that this might be why you still think that Ukraine is winning despite all the evidence to the contrary?\n
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            > Regarding Russian economic data you seem to be flaunting, Russia has made it hard for outside sources to verify any of it.\n
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            Every mainstream western outlet, including the IMF, agrees that Russian economy is growing. No serious economists dispute this.\n
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            > You seem to derive a lot of your opinions from mearsheimer.substack.com source but the sources the author uses to prove your points often come from rt.com which is like, the worst source for this discussion.\n
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            Mearsheimer is just one example, and he is a preeminent political scientist in the US. The reality is that there is propaganda in the west just like there is in Russia, and western media often omits covering things that RT covers. Simply dismissing information based on the source is frankly absurd.\n
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            Incidentally, Mearsheimer gave an entire lecture back in 2014 predicting the events in Ukraine that are currently unfolding, seems to me that he might know what he’s talking about [www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4)\n
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            > I will, however, refrain from posting on lemmy.ml in the future, because I can see that you are a mod of several communities on this instance and your overall conduct in this post has been rather childish and disrespectful. I feel like mods should hold themselves to a higher standard.\n
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            Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
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          +body: "After two years, it’s pretty clear that the west is not capable of doing anything of the sort. All the west managed to achieve was to ensure that hundreds of thousands of people died, and that Ukraine lost large parts of its territory in the process. We now have admissions from Ukrainian negotiators that a peace deal was close to being reached last March before the west sabotaged it."
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            The actual truth is that it’s NATO that’s been constantly expanding towards Russia. It’s also NATO that’s been invading and destroying countries since the end of USSR. Syria, Libya, and Yugoslavia being some prominent examples.\n
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            Meanwhile, Russia tried to resolve this situation diplomatically since 2008 with Minsk agreements that western leaders now openly admit were a delaying tactic by the west.\n
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            Finally, section IX of Ukraine’s 1990 Declaration of State Sovereignty states the following:\n
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            [The Ukrainian SSR solemnly declares its intention of becoming a permanently neutral state that does not participate in military blocs and adheres to three nuclear free principles: to accept, to produce and to purchase no nuclear weapons.](https://web.archive.org/web/20130615031823/https://static.rada.gov.ua/site/postanova_eng/Declaration_of_State_Sovereignty_of_Ukraine_rev1.htm)\n
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            The whole legal basis for the existence of state of Ukraine is predicated on Ukraine staying neutral and not joining military blocs. Ukraine broke the very basis of this agreement when it tried to join NATO.\n
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            Now, thanks to western “help”, Ukraine will lose far more territory than it would have if the deal was done last year, and it may even cease to exist as a state. I can’t wait for you to explain how this actually helps people of Ukraine.
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          +body: "NATO is an aggressive alliance that has invaded and destroyed numerous countries. The fact that you keep pretending that it’s a defensive alliance just shows how utterly dishonest you are."
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            > False equivalence.\n
            \n
            It’s not.\n
            \n
            > Because Russia attacked them.\n
            \n
            No, Ukraine has been engaged in atrocities in Donbas since 2014 as even western media reported at the time.\n
            \n
            > It is in fact the opposite. No neutral country stays that way for long when Russia wants it’s territory.\n
            \n
            I see you have problems with reading comprehension.\n
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            > If the West had not helped, there would be no Ukraine either. We would be condemning them to a decade of guerilla warfare and oppression. Emboldened by his victory, Putin would look further west.\n
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            If the west didn’t run a coup to overthrow a democratically elected government then there would’ve been no troubles in Ukraine. Period.\n
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            > Ukrainians now fight Russia, both sides are getting exhausted and it all depends on what help Ukraine gets. Your magical peace treaty would just mean Russia trying this again in 5 years or less.\n
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            That’s complete and utter nonsense, and even western media now admits this.\n
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            > You could have used the same arguments to make peace with the Nazis in 1941 and the world would only be worse for it.\n
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            Now that’s what actual false equivalence looks like.
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            > Russian propaganda talking point.\n
            \n
            Ah yes, Russian propaganda point as reported by CNN back in 2014 [twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296](https://twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296)\n
            \n
            There’s even an hour long documentary from France on this [www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs)\n
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            Pretending this just didn’t happen is the height of intellectual dishonesty.\n
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            > Euromaidan was not a coup.\n
            \n
            Yes, it was and there’s overwhelming evidence for it.\n
            \n
            > Cite sources for the first point and military strategy analysts for the second.\n
            \n
            Are you just incapable of using google, I guess that would explain why you believe in nonsense. Here you go. First of all Russian economy is now rapidly growing while the west is going into a recession. This is not a country that’s showing any signs of being exhausted:\n
            \n
            - [newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-op…](https://www.newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-opinion-1861645)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-rosstat-2023-12-13/)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russian-factory-activity-expands-fa…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russian-factory-activity-expands-fastest-pace-seven-years-dec-pmi-2023-12-29/)\n
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            and here’s some recent mainstream media reporting on the state of the war for you to chew on\n
            \n
            - [www.nytimes.com/2024/…/ukraine-russia-war.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/13/world/europe/ukraine-russia-war.html)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defen…](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defence-minister-says-2024-01-10/)\n
            - [lepoint.fr/…/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d…](https://www.lepoint.fr/monde/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d-une-debacle-05-01-2024-2549049_24.php)\n
            - [lemonde.fr/…/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-ex…](https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2023/09/27/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-express-discontent-i-repeatedly-told-them-nato-manuals-didn-t-apply_6140349_4.html)\n
            - [spiegel.de/…/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-…](https://www.spiegel.de/politik/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-deutschen-pannen-panzern-a-cd9421ae-4a96-4d4f-983a-6205a063ae15)\n
            - [archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73](https://archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73)\n
            - [telegraph.co.uk/…/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-…](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/12/27/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-tide-war-ukraine/)\n
            - [www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/…/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/ukraine-war-victory-hopes-dim-intl/index.html)\n
            - [cbc.ca/…/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232](https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232)\n
            \n
            and here’s some analysis from military strategists for you\n
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            - [www.russiamatters.org/…/whats-ahead-war-ukraine](https://www.russiamatters.org/analysis/whats-ahead-war-ukraine)\n
            - […substack.com/…/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukra…](https://mearsheimer.substack.com/p/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukraine)\n
            - [rusi.org/…/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challeng…](https://www.rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challenges-and-innovations)\n
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            Russia will win this war, and the only thing the west has achieved was to help destroy Ukraine by sabotaging negotiations in 2022.
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          +body: "Share a source for NATO invading Yugoslavia, Libya, Syria, and Afghanistan, is that what you’re asking there little buddy?"
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            Russian economy is growing while the west is going into a recession. [Russian factory activity grows at fastest pace in over six years](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-factory-activity-grows-fastest-pace-over-six-years-sept-pmi-2023-10-02/), meanwhile [while US manufacturing activity shrinks the most in three years.](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-07-03/us-manufacturing-activity-shrinks-by-most-in-three-years). UK now [can’t even make steel from raw materials.](https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/jan/18/tata-steel-to-shut-down-port-talbot-blast-furnaces-3000-jobs-at-risk)\n
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            Yes, people still bleat about a weaker Russia. 🤡
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          +body: "Here’s an idea go sign up as a volunteer in Ukraine and fight yourself instead of cheering on for other people to die for you, you disgusting sack of shit."
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            The fact that the west was deeply involved in the coup is well documented even in western media\n
            \n
            - [quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukr…](https://www.quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukraines-2014-revolution-was-due-to-a-CIA-coup) ([archive.ph/BAxYc](https://archive.ph/BAxYc))\n
            - [consortiumnews.com/…/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-i…](https://consortiumnews.com/2022/12/29/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-in-kiev/)\n
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            The foundations of my beliefs are that the west saw itself as the winner of the cold war after USSR dissolved, and decided to renege on all the promises that were made in the 90s. This created increasing tensions with Russia, and eventually led to the war we’re seeing play out in Ukraine. This is a proxy war between NATO and Russia, and it’s following the script that [was outlined by RAND](https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR3063.html).\n
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            The west made a huge miscalculation thinking that it could defeat Russia militarily and economically, and now the whole thing is starting to backfire. NATO is finding that it lacks the industrial base to sustain the conflict. Russia managed to reroute its trade away from the west, which caused immeasurable economic damage to Europe. The world outside the G7 has been increasingly aligning towards Russia and China and away from the west. This proxy war is heralding the end of the unipolar moment that US enjoyed and ushering in multipolarity.\n
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            > I have been using Google for long enough to know that it often shows us what we want to see, not that which is most likely to be correct. :)\n
            \n
            Have you considered that this might be why you still think that Ukraine is winning despite all the evidence to the contrary?\n
            \n
            > Regarding Russian economic data you seem to be flaunting, Russia has made it hard for outside sources to verify any of it.\n
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            Every mainstream western outlet, including the IMF, agrees that Russian economy is growing. No serious economists dispute this.\n
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            > You seem to derive a lot of your opinions from mearsheimer.substack.com source but the sources the author uses to prove your points often come from rt.com which is like, the worst source for this discussion.\n
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            Mearsheimer is just one example, and he is a preeminent political scientist in the US. The reality is that there is propaganda in the west just like there is in Russia, and western media often omits covering things that RT covers. Simply dismissing information based on the source is frankly absurd.\n
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            Incidentally, Mearsheimer gave an entire lecture back in 2014 predicting the events in Ukraine that are currently unfolding, seems to me that he might know what he’s talking about [www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4)\n
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            > I will, however, refrain from posting on lemmy.ml in the future, because I can see that you are a mod of several communities on this instance and your overall conduct in this post has been rather childish and disrespectful. I feel like mods should hold themselves to a higher standard.\n
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            Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
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            The actual truth is that it’s NATO that’s been constantly expanding towards Russia. It’s also NATO that’s been invading and destroying countries since the end of USSR. Syria, Libya, and Yugoslavia being some prominent examples.\n
            \n
            Meanwhile, Russia tried to resolve this situation diplomatically since 2008 with Minsk agreements that western leaders now openly admit were a delaying tactic by the west.\n
            \n
            Finally, section IX of Ukraine’s 1990 Declaration of State Sovereignty states the following:\n
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            [The Ukrainian SSR solemnly declares its intention of becoming a permanently neutral state that does not participate in military blocs and adheres to three nuclear free principles: to accept, to produce and to purchase no nuclear weapons.](https://web.archive.org/web/20130615031823/https://static.rada.gov.ua/site/postanova_eng/Declaration_of_State_Sovereignty_of_Ukraine_rev1.htm)\n
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            The whole legal basis for the existence of state of Ukraine is predicated on Ukraine staying neutral and not joining military blocs. Ukraine broke the very basis of this agreement when it tried to join NATO.\n
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            Now, thanks to western “help”, Ukraine will lose far more territory than it would have if the deal was done last year, and it may even cease to exist as a state. I can’t wait for you to explain how this actually helps people of Ukraine.
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          +body: "NATO is an aggressive alliance that has invaded and destroyed numerous countries. The fact that you keep pretending that it’s a defensive alliance just shows how utterly dishonest you are."
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            > False equivalence.\n
            \n
            It’s not.\n
            \n
            > Because Russia attacked them.\n
            \n
            No, Ukraine has been engaged in atrocities in Donbas since 2014 as even western media reported at the time.\n
            \n
            > It is in fact the opposite. No neutral country stays that way for long when Russia wants it’s territory.\n
            \n
            I see you have problems with reading comprehension.\n
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            > If the West had not helped, there would be no Ukraine either. We would be condemning them to a decade of guerilla warfare and oppression. Emboldened by his victory, Putin would look further west.\n
            \n
            If the west didn’t run a coup to overthrow a democratically elected government then there would’ve been no troubles in Ukraine. Period.\n
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            > Ukrainians now fight Russia, both sides are getting exhausted and it all depends on what help Ukraine gets. Your magical peace treaty would just mean Russia trying this again in 5 years or less.\n
            \n
            That’s complete and utter nonsense, and even western media now admits this.\n
            \n
            > You could have used the same arguments to make peace with the Nazis in 1941 and the world would only be worse for it.\n
            \n
            Now that’s what actual false equivalence looks like.
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            > Russian propaganda talking point.\n
            \n
            Ah yes, Russian propaganda point as reported by CNN back in 2014 [twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296](https://twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296)\n
            \n
            There’s even an hour long documentary from France on this [www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs)\n
            \n
            Pretending this just didn’t happen is the height of intellectual dishonesty.\n
            \n
            > Euromaidan was not a coup.\n
            \n
            Yes, it was and there’s overwhelming evidence for it.\n
            \n
            > Cite sources for the first point and military strategy analysts for the second.\n
            \n
            Are you just incapable of using google, I guess that would explain why you believe in nonsense. Here you go. First of all Russian economy is now rapidly growing while the west is going into a recession. This is not a country that’s showing any signs of being exhausted:\n
            \n
            - [newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-op…](https://www.newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-opinion-1861645)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-rosstat-2023-12-13/)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russian-factory-activity-expands-fa…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russian-factory-activity-expands-fastest-pace-seven-years-dec-pmi-2023-12-29/)\n
            \n
            and here’s some recent mainstream media reporting on the state of the war for you to chew on\n
            \n
            - [www.nytimes.com/2024/…/ukraine-russia-war.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/13/world/europe/ukraine-russia-war.html)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defen…](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defence-minister-says-2024-01-10/)\n
            - [lepoint.fr/…/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d…](https://www.lepoint.fr/monde/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d-une-debacle-05-01-2024-2549049_24.php)\n
            - [lemonde.fr/…/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-ex…](https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2023/09/27/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-express-discontent-i-repeatedly-told-them-nato-manuals-didn-t-apply_6140349_4.html)\n
            - [spiegel.de/…/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-…](https://www.spiegel.de/politik/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-deutschen-pannen-panzern-a-cd9421ae-4a96-4d4f-983a-6205a063ae15)\n
            - [archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73](https://archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73)\n
            - [telegraph.co.uk/…/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-…](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/12/27/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-tide-war-ukraine/)\n
            - [www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/…/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/ukraine-war-victory-hopes-dim-intl/index.html)\n
            - [cbc.ca/…/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232](https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232)\n
            \n
            and here’s some analysis from military strategists for you\n
            \n
            - [www.russiamatters.org/…/whats-ahead-war-ukraine](https://www.russiamatters.org/analysis/whats-ahead-war-ukraine)\n
            - […substack.com/…/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukra…](https://mearsheimer.substack.com/p/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukraine)\n
            - [rusi.org/…/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challeng…](https://www.rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challenges-and-innovations)\n
            \n
            Russia will win this war, and the only thing the west has achieved was to help destroy Ukraine by sabotaging negotiations in 2022.
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          +body: "Share a source for NATO invading Yugoslavia, Libya, Syria, and Afghanistan, is that what you’re asking there little buddy?"
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          +body: "No, I’m saying that anybody can type in words NATO and Yugoslavia or NATO and Libya into Google and see that you’re a liar."
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            Russian economy is growing while the west is going into a recession. [Russian factory activity grows at fastest pace in over six years](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-factory-activity-grows-fastest-pace-over-six-years-sept-pmi-2023-10-02/), meanwhile [while US manufacturing activity shrinks the most in three years.](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-07-03/us-manufacturing-activity-shrinks-by-most-in-three-years). UK now [can’t even make steel from raw materials.](https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/jan/18/tata-steel-to-shut-down-port-talbot-blast-furnaces-3000-jobs-at-risk)\n
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            Yes, people still bleat about a weaker Russia. 🤡
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          +body: "Here’s an idea go sign up as a volunteer in Ukraine and fight yourself instead of cheering on for other people to die for you, you disgusting sack of shit."
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          +body: "I see somebody is projecting"
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            The fact that the west was deeply involved in the coup is well documented even in western media\n
            \n
            - [quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukr…](https://www.quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukraines-2014-revolution-was-due-to-a-CIA-coup) ([archive.ph/BAxYc](https://archive.ph/BAxYc))\n
            - [consortiumnews.com/…/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-i…](https://consortiumnews.com/2022/12/29/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-in-kiev/)\n
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            The foundations of my beliefs are that the west saw itself as the winner of the cold war after USSR dissolved, and decided to renege on all the promises that were made in the 90s. This created increasing tensions with Russia, and eventually led to the war we’re seeing play out in Ukraine. This is a proxy war between NATO and Russia, and it’s following the script that [was outlined by RAND](https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR3063.html).\n
            \n
            The west made a huge miscalculation thinking that it could defeat Russia militarily and economically, and now the whole thing is starting to backfire. NATO is finding that it lacks the industrial base to sustain the conflict. Russia managed to reroute its trade away from the west, which caused immeasurable economic damage to Europe. The world outside the G7 has been increasingly aligning towards Russia and China and away from the west. This proxy war is heralding the end of the unipolar moment that US enjoyed and ushering in multipolarity.\n
            \n
            > I have been using Google for long enough to know that it often shows us what we want to see, not that which is most likely to be correct. :)\n
            \n
            Have you considered that this might be why you still think that Ukraine is winning despite all the evidence to the contrary?\n
            \n
            > Regarding Russian economic data you seem to be flaunting, Russia has made it hard for outside sources to verify any of it.\n
            \n
            Every mainstream western outlet, including the IMF, agrees that Russian economy is growing. No serious economists dispute this.\n
            \n
            > You seem to derive a lot of your opinions from mearsheimer.substack.com source but the sources the author uses to prove your points often come from rt.com which is like, the worst source for this discussion.\n
            \n
            Mearsheimer is just one example, and he is a preeminent political scientist in the US. The reality is that there is propaganda in the west just like there is in Russia, and western media often omits covering things that RT covers. Simply dismissing information based on the source is frankly absurd.\n
            \n
            Incidentally, Mearsheimer gave an entire lecture back in 2014 predicting the events in Ukraine that are currently unfolding, seems to me that he might know what he’s talking about [www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4)\n
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            > I will, however, refrain from posting on lemmy.ml in the future, because I can see that you are a mod of several communities on this instance and your overall conduct in this post has been rather childish and disrespectful. I feel like mods should hold themselves to a higher standard.\n
            \n
            Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
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          +body: "NATO is an aggressive alliance that has invaded and destroyed numerous countries. The fact that you keep pretending that it’s a defensive alliance just shows how utterly dishonest you are."
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            > False equivalence.\n
            \n
            It’s not.\n
            \n
            > Because Russia attacked them.\n
            \n
            No, Ukraine has been engaged in atrocities in Donbas since 2014 as even western media reported at the time.\n
            \n
            > It is in fact the opposite. No neutral country stays that way for long when Russia wants it’s territory.\n
            \n
            I see you have problems with reading comprehension.\n
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            > If the West had not helped, there would be no Ukraine either. We would be condemning them to a decade of guerilla warfare and oppression. Emboldened by his victory, Putin would look further west.\n
            \n
            If the west didn’t run a coup to overthrow a democratically elected government then there would’ve been no troubles in Ukraine. Period.\n
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            > Ukrainians now fight Russia, both sides are getting exhausted and it all depends on what help Ukraine gets. Your magical peace treaty would just mean Russia trying this again in 5 years or less.\n
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            That’s complete and utter nonsense, and even western media now admits this.\n
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            > You could have used the same arguments to make peace with the Nazis in 1941 and the world would only be worse for it.\n
            \n
            Now that’s what actual false equivalence looks like.
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            > Russian propaganda talking point.\n
            \n
            Ah yes, Russian propaganda point as reported by CNN back in 2014 [twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296](https://twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296)\n
            \n
            There’s even an hour long documentary from France on this [www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs)\n
            \n
            Pretending this just didn’t happen is the height of intellectual dishonesty.\n
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            > Euromaidan was not a coup.\n
            \n
            Yes, it was and there’s overwhelming evidence for it.\n
            \n
            > Cite sources for the first point and military strategy analysts for the second.\n
            \n
            Are you just incapable of using google, I guess that would explain why you believe in nonsense. Here you go. First of all Russian economy is now rapidly growing while the west is going into a recession. This is not a country that’s showing any signs of being exhausted:\n
            \n
            - [newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-op…](https://www.newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-opinion-1861645)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-rosstat-2023-12-13/)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russian-factory-activity-expands-fa…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russian-factory-activity-expands-fastest-pace-seven-years-dec-pmi-2023-12-29/)\n
            \n
            and here’s some recent mainstream media reporting on the state of the war for you to chew on\n
            \n
            - [www.nytimes.com/2024/…/ukraine-russia-war.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/13/world/europe/ukraine-russia-war.html)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defen…](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defence-minister-says-2024-01-10/)\n
            - [lepoint.fr/…/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d…](https://www.lepoint.fr/monde/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d-une-debacle-05-01-2024-2549049_24.php)\n
            - [lemonde.fr/…/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-ex…](https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2023/09/27/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-express-discontent-i-repeatedly-told-them-nato-manuals-didn-t-apply_6140349_4.html)\n
            - [spiegel.de/…/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-…](https://www.spiegel.de/politik/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-deutschen-pannen-panzern-a-cd9421ae-4a96-4d4f-983a-6205a063ae15)\n
            - [archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73](https://archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73)\n
            - [telegraph.co.uk/…/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-…](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/12/27/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-tide-war-ukraine/)\n
            - [www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/…/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/ukraine-war-victory-hopes-dim-intl/index.html)\n
            - [cbc.ca/…/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232](https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232)\n
            \n
            and here’s some analysis from military strategists for you\n
            \n
            - [www.russiamatters.org/…/whats-ahead-war-ukraine](https://www.russiamatters.org/analysis/whats-ahead-war-ukraine)\n
            - […substack.com/…/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukra…](https://mearsheimer.substack.com/p/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukraine)\n
            - [rusi.org/…/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challeng…](https://www.rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challenges-and-innovations)\n
            \n
            Russia will win this war, and the only thing the west has achieved was to help destroy Ukraine by sabotaging negotiations in 2022.
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          +body: "Share a source for NATO invading Yugoslavia, Libya, Syria, and Afghanistan, is that what you’re asking there little buddy?"
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          +body: "No, I’m saying that anybody can type in words NATO and Yugoslavia or NATO and Libya into Google and see that you’re a liar."
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          +body: "Do you perhaps make bad faith arguments when you have nothing of value to add to the discussion?"
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            Russian economy is growing while the west is going into a recession. [Russian factory activity grows at fastest pace in over six years](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-factory-activity-grows-fastest-pace-over-six-years-sept-pmi-2023-10-02/), meanwhile [while US manufacturing activity shrinks the most in three years.](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-07-03/us-manufacturing-activity-shrinks-by-most-in-three-years). UK now [can’t even make steel from raw materials.](https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/jan/18/tata-steel-to-shut-down-port-talbot-blast-furnaces-3000-jobs-at-risk)\n
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            Yes, people still bleat about a weaker Russia. 🤡
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            The fact that the west was deeply involved in the coup is well documented even in western media\n
            \n
            - [quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukr…](https://www.quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukraines-2014-revolution-was-due-to-a-CIA-coup) ([archive.ph/BAxYc](https://archive.ph/BAxYc))\n
            - [consortiumnews.com/…/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-i…](https://consortiumnews.com/2022/12/29/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-in-kiev/)\n
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            The foundations of my beliefs are that the west saw itself as the winner of the cold war after USSR dissolved, and decided to renege on all the promises that were made in the 90s. This created increasing tensions with Russia, and eventually led to the war we’re seeing play out in Ukraine. This is a proxy war between NATO and Russia, and it’s following the script that [was outlined by RAND](https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR3063.html).\n
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            The west made a huge miscalculation thinking that it could defeat Russia militarily and economically, and now the whole thing is starting to backfire. NATO is finding that it lacks the industrial base to sustain the conflict. Russia managed to reroute its trade away from the west, which caused immeasurable economic damage to Europe. The world outside the G7 has been increasingly aligning towards Russia and China and away from the west. This proxy war is heralding the end of the unipolar moment that US enjoyed and ushering in multipolarity.\n
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            > I have been using Google for long enough to know that it often shows us what we want to see, not that which is most likely to be correct. :)\n
            \n
            Have you considered that this might be why you still think that Ukraine is winning despite all the evidence to the contrary?\n
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            > Regarding Russian economic data you seem to be flaunting, Russia has made it hard for outside sources to verify any of it.\n
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            Every mainstream western outlet, including the IMF, agrees that Russian economy is growing. No serious economists dispute this.\n
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            > You seem to derive a lot of your opinions from mearsheimer.substack.com source but the sources the author uses to prove your points often come from rt.com which is like, the worst source for this discussion.\n
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            Mearsheimer is just one example, and he is a preeminent political scientist in the US. The reality is that there is propaganda in the west just like there is in Russia, and western media often omits covering things that RT covers. Simply dismissing information based on the source is frankly absurd.\n
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            Incidentally, Mearsheimer gave an entire lecture back in 2014 predicting the events in Ukraine that are currently unfolding, seems to me that he might know what he’s talking about [www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4)\n
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            > I will, however, refrain from posting on lemmy.ml in the future, because I can see that you are a mod of several communities on this instance and your overall conduct in this post has been rather childish and disrespectful. I feel like mods should hold themselves to a higher standard.\n
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            Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
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            The actual truth is that it’s NATO that’s been constantly expanding towards Russia. It’s also NATO that’s been invading and destroying countries since the end of USSR. Syria, Libya, and Yugoslavia being some prominent examples.\n
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            Meanwhile, Russia tried to resolve this situation diplomatically since 2008 with Minsk agreements that western leaders now openly admit were a delaying tactic by the west.\n
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          +body: "NATO is an aggressive alliance that has invaded and destroyed numerous countries. The fact that you keep pretending that it’s a defensive alliance just shows how utterly dishonest you are."
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            > False equivalence.\n
            \n
            It’s not.\n
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            > Because Russia attacked them.\n
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            No, Ukraine has been engaged in atrocities in Donbas since 2014 as even western media reported at the time.\n
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            > It is in fact the opposite. No neutral country stays that way for long when Russia wants it’s territory.\n
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            I see you have problems with reading comprehension.\n
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            If the west didn’t run a coup to overthrow a democratically elected government then there would’ve been no troubles in Ukraine. Period.\n
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            That’s complete and utter nonsense, and even western media now admits this.\n
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            > You could have used the same arguments to make peace with the Nazis in 1941 and the world would only be worse for it.\n
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            Now that’s what actual false equivalence looks like.
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            > Russian propaganda talking point.\n
            \n
            Ah yes, Russian propaganda point as reported by CNN back in 2014 [twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296](https://twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296)\n
            \n
            There’s even an hour long documentary from France on this [www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs)\n
            \n
            Pretending this just didn’t happen is the height of intellectual dishonesty.\n
            \n
            > Euromaidan was not a coup.\n
            \n
            Yes, it was and there’s overwhelming evidence for it.\n
            \n
            > Cite sources for the first point and military strategy analysts for the second.\n
            \n
            Are you just incapable of using google, I guess that would explain why you believe in nonsense. Here you go. First of all Russian economy is now rapidly growing while the west is going into a recession. This is not a country that’s showing any signs of being exhausted:\n
            \n
            - [newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-op…](https://www.newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-opinion-1861645)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-rosstat-2023-12-13/)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russian-factory-activity-expands-fa…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russian-factory-activity-expands-fastest-pace-seven-years-dec-pmi-2023-12-29/)\n
            \n
            and here’s some recent mainstream media reporting on the state of the war for you to chew on\n
            \n
            - [www.nytimes.com/2024/…/ukraine-russia-war.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/13/world/europe/ukraine-russia-war.html)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defen…](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defence-minister-says-2024-01-10/)\n
            - [lepoint.fr/…/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d…](https://www.lepoint.fr/monde/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d-une-debacle-05-01-2024-2549049_24.php)\n
            - [lemonde.fr/…/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-ex…](https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2023/09/27/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-express-discontent-i-repeatedly-told-them-nato-manuals-didn-t-apply_6140349_4.html)\n
            - [spiegel.de/…/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-…](https://www.spiegel.de/politik/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-deutschen-pannen-panzern-a-cd9421ae-4a96-4d4f-983a-6205a063ae15)\n
            - [archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73](https://archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73)\n
            - [telegraph.co.uk/…/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-…](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/12/27/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-tide-war-ukraine/)\n
            - [www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/…/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/ukraine-war-victory-hopes-dim-intl/index.html)\n
            - [cbc.ca/…/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232](https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232)\n
            \n
            and here’s some analysis from military strategists for you\n
            \n
            - [www.russiamatters.org/…/whats-ahead-war-ukraine](https://www.russiamatters.org/analysis/whats-ahead-war-ukraine)\n
            - […substack.com/…/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukra…](https://mearsheimer.substack.com/p/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukraine)\n
            - [rusi.org/…/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challeng…](https://www.rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challenges-and-innovations)\n
            \n
            Russia will win this war, and the only thing the west has achieved was to help destroy Ukraine by sabotaging negotiations in 2022.
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          +body: "Share a source for NATO invading Yugoslavia, Libya, Syria, and Afghanistan, is that what you’re asking there little buddy?"
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          +body: "No, I’m saying that anybody can type in words NATO and Yugoslavia or NATO and Libya into Google and see that you’re a liar."
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            Russian economy is growing while the west is going into a recession. [Russian factory activity grows at fastest pace in over six years](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-factory-activity-grows-fastest-pace-over-six-years-sept-pmi-2023-10-02/), meanwhile [while US manufacturing activity shrinks the most in three years.](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-07-03/us-manufacturing-activity-shrinks-by-most-in-three-years). UK now [can’t even make steel from raw materials.](https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/jan/18/tata-steel-to-shut-down-port-talbot-blast-furnaces-3000-jobs-at-risk)\n
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            The fact that the west was deeply involved in the coup is well documented even in western media\n
            \n
            - [quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukr…](https://www.quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukraines-2014-revolution-was-due-to-a-CIA-coup) ([archive.ph/BAxYc](https://archive.ph/BAxYc))\n
            - [consortiumnews.com/…/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-i…](https://consortiumnews.com/2022/12/29/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-in-kiev/)\n
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            The foundations of my beliefs are that the west saw itself as the winner of the cold war after USSR dissolved, and decided to renege on all the promises that were made in the 90s. This created increasing tensions with Russia, and eventually led to the war we’re seeing play out in Ukraine. This is a proxy war between NATO and Russia, and it’s following the script that [was outlined by RAND](https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR3063.html).\n
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            The west made a huge miscalculation thinking that it could defeat Russia militarily and economically, and now the whole thing is starting to backfire. NATO is finding that it lacks the industrial base to sustain the conflict. Russia managed to reroute its trade away from the west, which caused immeasurable economic damage to Europe. The world outside the G7 has been increasingly aligning towards Russia and China and away from the west. This proxy war is heralding the end of the unipolar moment that US enjoyed and ushering in multipolarity.\n
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            > I have been using Google for long enough to know that it often shows us what we want to see, not that which is most likely to be correct. :)\n
            \n
            Have you considered that this might be why you still think that Ukraine is winning despite all the evidence to the contrary?\n
            \n
            > Regarding Russian economic data you seem to be flaunting, Russia has made it hard for outside sources to verify any of it.\n
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            Every mainstream western outlet, including the IMF, agrees that Russian economy is growing. No serious economists dispute this.\n
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            > You seem to derive a lot of your opinions from mearsheimer.substack.com source but the sources the author uses to prove your points often come from rt.com which is like, the worst source for this discussion.\n
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            Mearsheimer is just one example, and he is a preeminent political scientist in the US. The reality is that there is propaganda in the west just like there is in Russia, and western media often omits covering things that RT covers. Simply dismissing information based on the source is frankly absurd.\n
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            Incidentally, Mearsheimer gave an entire lecture back in 2014 predicting the events in Ukraine that are currently unfolding, seems to me that he might know what he’s talking about [www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4)\n
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            > I will, however, refrain from posting on lemmy.ml in the future, because I can see that you are a mod of several communities on this instance and your overall conduct in this post has been rather childish and disrespectful. I feel like mods should hold themselves to a higher standard.\n
            \n
            Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
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          +body: "After two years, it’s pretty clear that the west is not capable of doing anything of the sort. All the west managed to achieve was to ensure that hundreds of thousands of people died, and that Ukraine lost large parts of its territory in the process. We now have admissions from Ukrainian negotiators that a peace deal was close to being reached last March before the west sabotaged it."
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            The actual truth is that it’s NATO that’s been constantly expanding towards Russia. It’s also NATO that’s been invading and destroying countries since the end of USSR. Syria, Libya, and Yugoslavia being some prominent examples.\n
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            Meanwhile, Russia tried to resolve this situation diplomatically since 2008 with Minsk agreements that western leaders now openly admit were a delaying tactic by the west.\n
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            Finally, section IX of Ukraine’s 1990 Declaration of State Sovereignty states the following:\n
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            [The Ukrainian SSR solemnly declares its intention of becoming a permanently neutral state that does not participate in military blocs and adheres to three nuclear free principles: to accept, to produce and to purchase no nuclear weapons.](https://web.archive.org/web/20130615031823/https://static.rada.gov.ua/site/postanova_eng/Declaration_of_State_Sovereignty_of_Ukraine_rev1.htm)\n
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            The whole legal basis for the existence of state of Ukraine is predicated on Ukraine staying neutral and not joining military blocs. Ukraine broke the very basis of this agreement when it tried to join NATO.\n
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            Now, thanks to western “help”, Ukraine will lose far more territory than it would have if the deal was done last year, and it may even cease to exist as a state. I can’t wait for you to explain how this actually helps people of Ukraine.
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          +body: "NATO is an aggressive alliance that has invaded and destroyed numerous countries. The fact that you keep pretending that it’s a defensive alliance just shows how utterly dishonest you are."
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            > False equivalence.\n
            \n
            It’s not.\n
            \n
            > Because Russia attacked them.\n
            \n
            No, Ukraine has been engaged in atrocities in Donbas since 2014 as even western media reported at the time.\n
            \n
            > It is in fact the opposite. No neutral country stays that way for long when Russia wants it’s territory.\n
            \n
            I see you have problems with reading comprehension.\n
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            > If the West had not helped, there would be no Ukraine either. We would be condemning them to a decade of guerilla warfare and oppression. Emboldened by his victory, Putin would look further west.\n
            \n
            If the west didn’t run a coup to overthrow a democratically elected government then there would’ve been no troubles in Ukraine. Period.\n
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            > Ukrainians now fight Russia, both sides are getting exhausted and it all depends on what help Ukraine gets. Your magical peace treaty would just mean Russia trying this again in 5 years or less.\n
            \n
            That’s complete and utter nonsense, and even western media now admits this.\n
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            > You could have used the same arguments to make peace with the Nazis in 1941 and the world would only be worse for it.\n
            \n
            Now that’s what actual false equivalence looks like.
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            > Russian propaganda talking point.\n
            \n
            Ah yes, Russian propaganda point as reported by CNN back in 2014 [twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296](https://twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296)\n
            \n
            There’s even an hour long documentary from France on this [www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs)\n
            \n
            Pretending this just didn’t happen is the height of intellectual dishonesty.\n
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            > Euromaidan was not a coup.\n
            \n
            Yes, it was and there’s overwhelming evidence for it.\n
            \n
            > Cite sources for the first point and military strategy analysts for the second.\n
            \n
            Are you just incapable of using google, I guess that would explain why you believe in nonsense. Here you go. First of all Russian economy is now rapidly growing while the west is going into a recession. This is not a country that’s showing any signs of being exhausted:\n
            \n
            - [newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-op…](https://www.newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-opinion-1861645)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-rosstat-2023-12-13/)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russian-factory-activity-expands-fa…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russian-factory-activity-expands-fastest-pace-seven-years-dec-pmi-2023-12-29/)\n
            \n
            and here’s some recent mainstream media reporting on the state of the war for you to chew on\n
            \n
            - [www.nytimes.com/2024/…/ukraine-russia-war.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/13/world/europe/ukraine-russia-war.html)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defen…](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defence-minister-says-2024-01-10/)\n
            - [lepoint.fr/…/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d…](https://www.lepoint.fr/monde/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d-une-debacle-05-01-2024-2549049_24.php)\n
            - [lemonde.fr/…/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-ex…](https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2023/09/27/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-express-discontent-i-repeatedly-told-them-nato-manuals-didn-t-apply_6140349_4.html)\n
            - [spiegel.de/…/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-…](https://www.spiegel.de/politik/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-deutschen-pannen-panzern-a-cd9421ae-4a96-4d4f-983a-6205a063ae15)\n
            - [archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73](https://archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73)\n
            - [telegraph.co.uk/…/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-…](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/12/27/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-tide-war-ukraine/)\n
            - [www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/…/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/ukraine-war-victory-hopes-dim-intl/index.html)\n
            - [cbc.ca/…/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232](https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232)\n
            \n
            and here’s some analysis from military strategists for you\n
            \n
            - [www.russiamatters.org/…/whats-ahead-war-ukraine](https://www.russiamatters.org/analysis/whats-ahead-war-ukraine)\n
            - […substack.com/…/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukra…](https://mearsheimer.substack.com/p/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukraine)\n
            - [rusi.org/…/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challeng…](https://www.rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challenges-and-innovations)\n
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            Russia will win this war, and the only thing the west has achieved was to help destroy Ukraine by sabotaging negotiations in 2022.
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          +body: "Share a source for NATO invading Yugoslavia, Libya, Syria, and Afghanistan, is that what you’re asking there little buddy?"
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          +body: "No, I’m saying that anybody can type in words NATO and Yugoslavia or NATO and Libya into Google and see that you’re a liar."
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          +body: "Do you perhaps make bad faith arguments when you have nothing of value to add to the discussion?"
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            Russian economy is growing while the west is going into a recession. [Russian factory activity grows at fastest pace in over six years](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-factory-activity-grows-fastest-pace-over-six-years-sept-pmi-2023-10-02/), meanwhile [while US manufacturing activity shrinks the most in three years.](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-07-03/us-manufacturing-activity-shrinks-by-most-in-three-years). UK now [can’t even make steel from raw materials.](https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/jan/18/tata-steel-to-shut-down-port-talbot-blast-furnaces-3000-jobs-at-risk)\n
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            Yes, people still bleat about a weaker Russia. 🤡
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          +body: "Here’s an idea go sign up as a volunteer in Ukraine and fight yourself instead of cheering on for other people to die for you, you disgusting sack of shit."
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            The fact that the west was deeply involved in the coup is well documented even in western media\n
            \n
            - [quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukr…](https://www.quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukraines-2014-revolution-was-due-to-a-CIA-coup) ([archive.ph/BAxYc](https://archive.ph/BAxYc))\n
            - [consortiumnews.com/…/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-i…](https://consortiumnews.com/2022/12/29/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-in-kiev/)\n
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            The foundations of my beliefs are that the west saw itself as the winner of the cold war after USSR dissolved, and decided to renege on all the promises that were made in the 90s. This created increasing tensions with Russia, and eventually led to the war we’re seeing play out in Ukraine. This is a proxy war between NATO and Russia, and it’s following the script that [was outlined by RAND](https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR3063.html).\n
            \n
            The west made a huge miscalculation thinking that it could defeat Russia militarily and economically, and now the whole thing is starting to backfire. NATO is finding that it lacks the industrial base to sustain the conflict. Russia managed to reroute its trade away from the west, which caused immeasurable economic damage to Europe. The world outside the G7 has been increasingly aligning towards Russia and China and away from the west. This proxy war is heralding the end of the unipolar moment that US enjoyed and ushering in multipolarity.\n
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            > I have been using Google for long enough to know that it often shows us what we want to see, not that which is most likely to be correct. :)\n
            \n
            Have you considered that this might be why you still think that Ukraine is winning despite all the evidence to the contrary?\n
            \n
            > Regarding Russian economic data you seem to be flaunting, Russia has made it hard for outside sources to verify any of it.\n
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            Every mainstream western outlet, including the IMF, agrees that Russian economy is growing. No serious economists dispute this.\n
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            > You seem to derive a lot of your opinions from mearsheimer.substack.com source but the sources the author uses to prove your points often come from rt.com which is like, the worst source for this discussion.\n
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            Now, thanks to western “help”, Ukraine will lose far more territory than it would have if the deal was done last year, and it may even cease to exist as a state. I can’t wait for you to explain how this actually helps people of Ukraine.
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          +body: "NATO is an aggressive alliance that has invaded and destroyed numerous countries. The fact that you keep pretending that it’s a defensive alliance just shows how utterly dishonest you are."
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            > False equivalence.\n
            \n
            It’s not.\n
            \n
            > Because Russia attacked them.\n
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            No, Ukraine has been engaged in atrocities in Donbas since 2014 as even western media reported at the time.\n
            \n
            > It is in fact the opposite. No neutral country stays that way for long when Russia wants it’s territory.\n
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            I see you have problems with reading comprehension.\n
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            > If the West had not helped, there would be no Ukraine either. We would be condemning them to a decade of guerilla warfare and oppression. Emboldened by his victory, Putin would look further west.\n
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            If the west didn’t run a coup to overthrow a democratically elected government then there would’ve been no troubles in Ukraine. Period.\n
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            > Ukrainians now fight Russia, both sides are getting exhausted and it all depends on what help Ukraine gets. Your magical peace treaty would just mean Russia trying this again in 5 years or less.\n
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            That’s complete and utter nonsense, and even western media now admits this.\n
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            > You could have used the same arguments to make peace with the Nazis in 1941 and the world would only be worse for it.\n
            \n
            Now that’s what actual false equivalence looks like.
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            > Russian propaganda talking point.\n
            \n
            Ah yes, Russian propaganda point as reported by CNN back in 2014 [twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296](https://twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296)\n
            \n
            There’s even an hour long documentary from France on this [www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs)\n
            \n
            Pretending this just didn’t happen is the height of intellectual dishonesty.\n
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            > Euromaidan was not a coup.\n
            \n
            Yes, it was and there’s overwhelming evidence for it.\n
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            > Cite sources for the first point and military strategy analysts for the second.\n
            \n
            Are you just incapable of using google, I guess that would explain why you believe in nonsense. Here you go. First of all Russian economy is now rapidly growing while the west is going into a recession. This is not a country that’s showing any signs of being exhausted:\n
            \n
            - [newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-op…](https://www.newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-opinion-1861645)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-rosstat-2023-12-13/)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russian-factory-activity-expands-fa…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russian-factory-activity-expands-fastest-pace-seven-years-dec-pmi-2023-12-29/)\n
            \n
            and here’s some recent mainstream media reporting on the state of the war for you to chew on\n
            \n
            - [www.nytimes.com/2024/…/ukraine-russia-war.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/13/world/europe/ukraine-russia-war.html)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defen…](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defence-minister-says-2024-01-10/)\n
            - [lepoint.fr/…/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d…](https://www.lepoint.fr/monde/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d-une-debacle-05-01-2024-2549049_24.php)\n
            - [lemonde.fr/…/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-ex…](https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2023/09/27/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-express-discontent-i-repeatedly-told-them-nato-manuals-didn-t-apply_6140349_4.html)\n
            - [spiegel.de/…/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-…](https://www.spiegel.de/politik/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-deutschen-pannen-panzern-a-cd9421ae-4a96-4d4f-983a-6205a063ae15)\n
            - [archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73](https://archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73)\n
            - [telegraph.co.uk/…/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-…](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/12/27/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-tide-war-ukraine/)\n
            - [www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/…/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/ukraine-war-victory-hopes-dim-intl/index.html)\n
            - [cbc.ca/…/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232](https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232)\n
            \n
            and here’s some analysis from military strategists for you\n
            \n
            - [www.russiamatters.org/…/whats-ahead-war-ukraine](https://www.russiamatters.org/analysis/whats-ahead-war-ukraine)\n
            - […substack.com/…/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukra…](https://mearsheimer.substack.com/p/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukraine)\n
            - [rusi.org/…/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challeng…](https://www.rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challenges-and-innovations)\n
            \n
            Russia will win this war, and the only thing the west has achieved was to help destroy Ukraine by sabotaging negotiations in 2022.
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          +body: "No, I’m saying that anybody can type in words NATO and Yugoslavia or NATO and Libya into Google and see that you’re a liar."
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          +body: "Do you perhaps make bad faith arguments when you have nothing of value to add to the discussion?"
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            Russian economy is growing while the west is going into a recession. [Russian factory activity grows at fastest pace in over six years](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-factory-activity-grows-fastest-pace-over-six-years-sept-pmi-2023-10-02/), meanwhile [while US manufacturing activity shrinks the most in three years.](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-07-03/us-manufacturing-activity-shrinks-by-most-in-three-years). UK now [can’t even make steel from raw materials.](https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/jan/18/tata-steel-to-shut-down-port-talbot-blast-furnaces-3000-jobs-at-risk)\n
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            Yes, people still bleat about a weaker Russia. 🤡
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            The fact that the west was deeply involved in the coup is well documented even in western media\n
            \n
            - [quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukr…](https://www.quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukraines-2014-revolution-was-due-to-a-CIA-coup) ([archive.ph/BAxYc](https://archive.ph/BAxYc))\n
            - [consortiumnews.com/…/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-i…](https://consortiumnews.com/2022/12/29/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-in-kiev/)\n
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            The foundations of my beliefs are that the west saw itself as the winner of the cold war after USSR dissolved, and decided to renege on all the promises that were made in the 90s. This created increasing tensions with Russia, and eventually led to the war we’re seeing play out in Ukraine. This is a proxy war between NATO and Russia, and it’s following the script that [was outlined by RAND](https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR3063.html).\n
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            The west made a huge miscalculation thinking that it could defeat Russia militarily and economically, and now the whole thing is starting to backfire. NATO is finding that it lacks the industrial base to sustain the conflict. Russia managed to reroute its trade away from the west, which caused immeasurable economic damage to Europe. The world outside the G7 has been increasingly aligning towards Russia and China and away from the west. This proxy war is heralding the end of the unipolar moment that US enjoyed and ushering in multipolarity.\n
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            > I have been using Google for long enough to know that it often shows us what we want to see, not that which is most likely to be correct. :)\n
            \n
            Have you considered that this might be why you still think that Ukraine is winning despite all the evidence to the contrary?\n
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            > Regarding Russian economic data you seem to be flaunting, Russia has made it hard for outside sources to verify any of it.\n
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            Every mainstream western outlet, including the IMF, agrees that Russian economy is growing. No serious economists dispute this.\n
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            > You seem to derive a lot of your opinions from mearsheimer.substack.com source but the sources the author uses to prove your points often come from rt.com which is like, the worst source for this discussion.\n
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            Mearsheimer is just one example, and he is a preeminent political scientist in the US. The reality is that there is propaganda in the west just like there is in Russia, and western media often omits covering things that RT covers. Simply dismissing information based on the source is frankly absurd.\n
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            Incidentally, Mearsheimer gave an entire lecture back in 2014 predicting the events in Ukraine that are currently unfolding, seems to me that he might know what he’s talking about [www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4)\n
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            > I will, however, refrain from posting on lemmy.ml in the future, because I can see that you are a mod of several communities on this instance and your overall conduct in this post has been rather childish and disrespectful. I feel like mods should hold themselves to a higher standard.\n
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            Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
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            The actual truth is that it’s NATO that’s been constantly expanding towards Russia. It’s also NATO that’s been invading and destroying countries since the end of USSR. Syria, Libya, and Yugoslavia being some prominent examples.\n
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            > False equivalence.\n
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            It’s not.\n
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            > Because Russia attacked them.\n
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            Now that’s what actual false equivalence looks like.
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            > Russian propaganda talking point.\n
            \n
            Ah yes, Russian propaganda point as reported by CNN back in 2014 [twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296](https://twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296)\n
            \n
            There’s even an hour long documentary from France on this [www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs)\n
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            Pretending this just didn’t happen is the height of intellectual dishonesty.\n
            \n
            > Euromaidan was not a coup.\n
            \n
            Yes, it was and there’s overwhelming evidence for it.\n
            \n
            > Cite sources for the first point and military strategy analysts for the second.\n
            \n
            Are you just incapable of using google, I guess that would explain why you believe in nonsense. Here you go. First of all Russian economy is now rapidly growing while the west is going into a recession. This is not a country that’s showing any signs of being exhausted:\n
            \n
            - [newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-op…](https://www.newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-opinion-1861645)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-rosstat-2023-12-13/)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russian-factory-activity-expands-fa…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russian-factory-activity-expands-fastest-pace-seven-years-dec-pmi-2023-12-29/)\n
            \n
            and here’s some recent mainstream media reporting on the state of the war for you to chew on\n
            \n
            - [www.nytimes.com/2024/…/ukraine-russia-war.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/13/world/europe/ukraine-russia-war.html)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defen…](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defence-minister-says-2024-01-10/)\n
            - [lepoint.fr/…/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d…](https://www.lepoint.fr/monde/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d-une-debacle-05-01-2024-2549049_24.php)\n
            - [lemonde.fr/…/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-ex…](https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2023/09/27/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-express-discontent-i-repeatedly-told-them-nato-manuals-didn-t-apply_6140349_4.html)\n
            - [spiegel.de/…/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-…](https://www.spiegel.de/politik/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-deutschen-pannen-panzern-a-cd9421ae-4a96-4d4f-983a-6205a063ae15)\n
            - [archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73](https://archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73)\n
            - [telegraph.co.uk/…/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-…](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/12/27/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-tide-war-ukraine/)\n
            - [www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/…/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/ukraine-war-victory-hopes-dim-intl/index.html)\n
            - [cbc.ca/…/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232](https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232)\n
            \n
            and here’s some analysis from military strategists for you\n
            \n
            - [www.russiamatters.org/…/whats-ahead-war-ukraine](https://www.russiamatters.org/analysis/whats-ahead-war-ukraine)\n
            - […substack.com/…/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukra…](https://mearsheimer.substack.com/p/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukraine)\n
            - [rusi.org/…/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challeng…](https://www.rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challenges-and-innovations)\n
            \n
            Russia will win this war, and the only thing the west has achieved was to help destroy Ukraine by sabotaging negotiations in 2022.
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          +body: "Share a source for NATO invading Yugoslavia, Libya, Syria, and Afghanistan, is that what you’re asking there little buddy?"
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          +body: "No, I’m saying that anybody can type in words NATO and Yugoslavia or NATO and Libya into Google and see that you’re a liar."
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            Russian economy is growing while the west is going into a recession. [Russian factory activity grows at fastest pace in over six years](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-factory-activity-grows-fastest-pace-over-six-years-sept-pmi-2023-10-02/), meanwhile [while US manufacturing activity shrinks the most in three years.](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-07-03/us-manufacturing-activity-shrinks-by-most-in-three-years). UK now [can’t even make steel from raw materials.](https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/jan/18/tata-steel-to-shut-down-port-talbot-blast-furnaces-3000-jobs-at-risk)\n
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            The fact that the west was deeply involved in the coup is well documented even in western media\n
            \n
            - [quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukr…](https://www.quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukraines-2014-revolution-was-due-to-a-CIA-coup) ([archive.ph/BAxYc](https://archive.ph/BAxYc))\n
            - [consortiumnews.com/…/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-i…](https://consortiumnews.com/2022/12/29/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-in-kiev/)\n
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            The foundations of my beliefs are that the west saw itself as the winner of the cold war after USSR dissolved, and decided to renege on all the promises that were made in the 90s. This created increasing tensions with Russia, and eventually led to the war we’re seeing play out in Ukraine. This is a proxy war between NATO and Russia, and it’s following the script that [was outlined by RAND](https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR3063.html).\n
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            The west made a huge miscalculation thinking that it could defeat Russia militarily and economically, and now the whole thing is starting to backfire. NATO is finding that it lacks the industrial base to sustain the conflict. Russia managed to reroute its trade away from the west, which caused immeasurable economic damage to Europe. The world outside the G7 has been increasingly aligning towards Russia and China and away from the west. This proxy war is heralding the end of the unipolar moment that US enjoyed and ushering in multipolarity.\n
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            > I have been using Google for long enough to know that it often shows us what we want to see, not that which is most likely to be correct. :)\n
            \n
            Have you considered that this might be why you still think that Ukraine is winning despite all the evidence to the contrary?\n
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            > Regarding Russian economic data you seem to be flaunting, Russia has made it hard for outside sources to verify any of it.\n
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            Every mainstream western outlet, including the IMF, agrees that Russian economy is growing. No serious economists dispute this.\n
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            > You seem to derive a lot of your opinions from mearsheimer.substack.com source but the sources the author uses to prove your points often come from rt.com which is like, the worst source for this discussion.\n
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            Mearsheimer is just one example, and he is a preeminent political scientist in the US. The reality is that there is propaganda in the west just like there is in Russia, and western media often omits covering things that RT covers. Simply dismissing information based on the source is frankly absurd.\n
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            Incidentally, Mearsheimer gave an entire lecture back in 2014 predicting the events in Ukraine that are currently unfolding, seems to me that he might know what he’s talking about [www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4)\n
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            > I will, however, refrain from posting on lemmy.ml in the future, because I can see that you are a mod of several communities on this instance and your overall conduct in this post has been rather childish and disrespectful. I feel like mods should hold themselves to a higher standard.\n
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            Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
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          +body: "After two years, it’s pretty clear that the west is not capable of doing anything of the sort. All the west managed to achieve was to ensure that hundreds of thousands of people died, and that Ukraine lost large parts of its territory in the process. We now have admissions from Ukrainian negotiators that a peace deal was close to being reached last March before the west sabotaged it."
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            The actual truth is that it’s NATO that’s been constantly expanding towards Russia. It’s also NATO that’s been invading and destroying countries since the end of USSR. Syria, Libya, and Yugoslavia being some prominent examples.\n
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            Meanwhile, Russia tried to resolve this situation diplomatically since 2008 with Minsk agreements that western leaders now openly admit were a delaying tactic by the west.\n
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            Finally, section IX of Ukraine’s 1990 Declaration of State Sovereignty states the following:\n
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            The whole legal basis for the existence of state of Ukraine is predicated on Ukraine staying neutral and not joining military blocs. Ukraine broke the very basis of this agreement when it tried to join NATO.\n
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            Now, thanks to western “help”, Ukraine will lose far more territory than it would have if the deal was done last year, and it may even cease to exist as a state. I can’t wait for you to explain how this actually helps people of Ukraine.
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          +body: "NATO is an aggressive alliance that has invaded and destroyed numerous countries. The fact that you keep pretending that it’s a defensive alliance just shows how utterly dishonest you are."
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            > False equivalence.\n
            \n
            It’s not.\n
            \n
            > Because Russia attacked them.\n
            \n
            No, Ukraine has been engaged in atrocities in Donbas since 2014 as even western media reported at the time.\n
            \n
            > It is in fact the opposite. No neutral country stays that way for long when Russia wants it’s territory.\n
            \n
            I see you have problems with reading comprehension.\n
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            > If the West had not helped, there would be no Ukraine either. We would be condemning them to a decade of guerilla warfare and oppression. Emboldened by his victory, Putin would look further west.\n
            \n
            If the west didn’t run a coup to overthrow a democratically elected government then there would’ve been no troubles in Ukraine. Period.\n
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            > Ukrainians now fight Russia, both sides are getting exhausted and it all depends on what help Ukraine gets. Your magical peace treaty would just mean Russia trying this again in 5 years or less.\n
            \n
            That’s complete and utter nonsense, and even western media now admits this.\n
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            > You could have used the same arguments to make peace with the Nazis in 1941 and the world would only be worse for it.\n
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            Now that’s what actual false equivalence looks like.
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            > Russian propaganda talking point.\n
            \n
            Ah yes, Russian propaganda point as reported by CNN back in 2014 [twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296](https://twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296)\n
            \n
            There’s even an hour long documentary from France on this [www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs)\n
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            Pretending this just didn’t happen is the height of intellectual dishonesty.\n
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            > Euromaidan was not a coup.\n
            \n
            Yes, it was and there’s overwhelming evidence for it.\n
            \n
            > Cite sources for the first point and military strategy analysts for the second.\n
            \n
            Are you just incapable of using google, I guess that would explain why you believe in nonsense. Here you go. First of all Russian economy is now rapidly growing while the west is going into a recession. This is not a country that’s showing any signs of being exhausted:\n
            \n
            - [newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-op…](https://www.newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-opinion-1861645)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-rosstat-2023-12-13/)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russian-factory-activity-expands-fa…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russian-factory-activity-expands-fastest-pace-seven-years-dec-pmi-2023-12-29/)\n
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            and here’s some recent mainstream media reporting on the state of the war for you to chew on\n
            \n
            - [www.nytimes.com/2024/…/ukraine-russia-war.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/13/world/europe/ukraine-russia-war.html)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defen…](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defence-minister-says-2024-01-10/)\n
            - [lepoint.fr/…/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d…](https://www.lepoint.fr/monde/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d-une-debacle-05-01-2024-2549049_24.php)\n
            - [lemonde.fr/…/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-ex…](https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2023/09/27/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-express-discontent-i-repeatedly-told-them-nato-manuals-didn-t-apply_6140349_4.html)\n
            - [spiegel.de/…/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-…](https://www.spiegel.de/politik/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-deutschen-pannen-panzern-a-cd9421ae-4a96-4d4f-983a-6205a063ae15)\n
            - [archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73](https://archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73)\n
            - [telegraph.co.uk/…/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-…](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/12/27/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-tide-war-ukraine/)\n
            - [www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/…/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/ukraine-war-victory-hopes-dim-intl/index.html)\n
            - [cbc.ca/…/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232](https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232)\n
            \n
            and here’s some analysis from military strategists for you\n
            \n
            - [www.russiamatters.org/…/whats-ahead-war-ukraine](https://www.russiamatters.org/analysis/whats-ahead-war-ukraine)\n
            - […substack.com/…/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukra…](https://mearsheimer.substack.com/p/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukraine)\n
            - [rusi.org/…/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challeng…](https://www.rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challenges-and-innovations)\n
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            Russia will win this war, and the only thing the west has achieved was to help destroy Ukraine by sabotaging negotiations in 2022.
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          +body: "Share a source for NATO invading Yugoslavia, Libya, Syria, and Afghanistan, is that what you’re asking there little buddy?"
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          +body: "Do you perhaps make bad faith arguments when you have nothing of value to add to the discussion?"
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            Russian economy is growing while the west is going into a recession. [Russian factory activity grows at fastest pace in over six years](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-factory-activity-grows-fastest-pace-over-six-years-sept-pmi-2023-10-02/), meanwhile [while US manufacturing activity shrinks the most in three years.](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-07-03/us-manufacturing-activity-shrinks-by-most-in-three-years). UK now [can’t even make steel from raw materials.](https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/jan/18/tata-steel-to-shut-down-port-talbot-blast-furnaces-3000-jobs-at-risk)\n
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            Yes, people still bleat about a weaker Russia. 🤡
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          +body: "Here’s an idea go sign up as a volunteer in Ukraine and fight yourself instead of cheering on for other people to die for you, you disgusting sack of shit."
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            The fact that the west was deeply involved in the coup is well documented even in western media\n
            \n
            - [quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukr…](https://www.quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukraines-2014-revolution-was-due-to-a-CIA-coup) ([archive.ph/BAxYc](https://archive.ph/BAxYc))\n
            - [consortiumnews.com/…/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-i…](https://consortiumnews.com/2022/12/29/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-in-kiev/)\n
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            The foundations of my beliefs are that the west saw itself as the winner of the cold war after USSR dissolved, and decided to renege on all the promises that were made in the 90s. This created increasing tensions with Russia, and eventually led to the war we’re seeing play out in Ukraine. This is a proxy war between NATO and Russia, and it’s following the script that [was outlined by RAND](https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR3063.html).\n
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            The west made a huge miscalculation thinking that it could defeat Russia militarily and economically, and now the whole thing is starting to backfire. NATO is finding that it lacks the industrial base to sustain the conflict. Russia managed to reroute its trade away from the west, which caused immeasurable economic damage to Europe. The world outside the G7 has been increasingly aligning towards Russia and China and away from the west. This proxy war is heralding the end of the unipolar moment that US enjoyed and ushering in multipolarity.\n
            \n
            > I have been using Google for long enough to know that it often shows us what we want to see, not that which is most likely to be correct. :)\n
            \n
            Have you considered that this might be why you still think that Ukraine is winning despite all the evidence to the contrary?\n
            \n
            > Regarding Russian economic data you seem to be flaunting, Russia has made it hard for outside sources to verify any of it.\n
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            Every mainstream western outlet, including the IMF, agrees that Russian economy is growing. No serious economists dispute this.\n
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            > You seem to derive a lot of your opinions from mearsheimer.substack.com source but the sources the author uses to prove your points often come from rt.com which is like, the worst source for this discussion.\n
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            Mearsheimer is just one example, and he is a preeminent political scientist in the US. The reality is that there is propaganda in the west just like there is in Russia, and western media often omits covering things that RT covers. Simply dismissing information based on the source is frankly absurd.\n
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            Incidentally, Mearsheimer gave an entire lecture back in 2014 predicting the events in Ukraine that are currently unfolding, seems to me that he might know what he’s talking about [www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4)\n
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            > I will, however, refrain from posting on lemmy.ml in the future, because I can see that you are a mod of several communities on this instance and your overall conduct in this post has been rather childish and disrespectful. I feel like mods should hold themselves to a higher standard.\n
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            Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
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            The actual truth is that it’s NATO that’s been constantly expanding towards Russia. It’s also NATO that’s been invading and destroying countries since the end of USSR. Syria, Libya, and Yugoslavia being some prominent examples.\n
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            Meanwhile, Russia tried to resolve this situation diplomatically since 2008 with Minsk agreements that western leaders now openly admit were a delaying tactic by the west.\n
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            Finally, section IX of Ukraine’s 1990 Declaration of State Sovereignty states the following:\n
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            [The Ukrainian SSR solemnly declares its intention of becoming a permanently neutral state that does not participate in military blocs and adheres to three nuclear free principles: to accept, to produce and to purchase no nuclear weapons.](https://web.archive.org/web/20130615031823/https://static.rada.gov.ua/site/postanova_eng/Declaration_of_State_Sovereignty_of_Ukraine_rev1.htm)\n
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            The whole legal basis for the existence of state of Ukraine is predicated on Ukraine staying neutral and not joining military blocs. Ukraine broke the very basis of this agreement when it tried to join NATO.\n
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            Now, thanks to western “help”, Ukraine will lose far more territory than it would have if the deal was done last year, and it may even cease to exist as a state. I can’t wait for you to explain how this actually helps people of Ukraine.
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          +body: "NATO is an aggressive alliance that has invaded and destroyed numerous countries. The fact that you keep pretending that it’s a defensive alliance just shows how utterly dishonest you are."
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            > False equivalence.\n
            \n
            It’s not.\n
            \n
            > Because Russia attacked them.\n
            \n
            No, Ukraine has been engaged in atrocities in Donbas since 2014 as even western media reported at the time.\n
            \n
            > It is in fact the opposite. No neutral country stays that way for long when Russia wants it’s territory.\n
            \n
            I see you have problems with reading comprehension.\n
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            > If the West had not helped, there would be no Ukraine either. We would be condemning them to a decade of guerilla warfare and oppression. Emboldened by his victory, Putin would look further west.\n
            \n
            If the west didn’t run a coup to overthrow a democratically elected government then there would’ve been no troubles in Ukraine. Period.\n
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            > Ukrainians now fight Russia, both sides are getting exhausted and it all depends on what help Ukraine gets. Your magical peace treaty would just mean Russia trying this again in 5 years or less.\n
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            That’s complete and utter nonsense, and even western media now admits this.\n
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            > You could have used the same arguments to make peace with the Nazis in 1941 and the world would only be worse for it.\n
            \n
            Now that’s what actual false equivalence looks like.
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            > Russian propaganda talking point.\n
            \n
            Ah yes, Russian propaganda point as reported by CNN back in 2014 [twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296](https://twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296)\n
            \n
            There’s even an hour long documentary from France on this [www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs)\n
            \n
            Pretending this just didn’t happen is the height of intellectual dishonesty.\n
            \n
            > Euromaidan was not a coup.\n
            \n
            Yes, it was and there’s overwhelming evidence for it.\n
            \n
            > Cite sources for the first point and military strategy analysts for the second.\n
            \n
            Are you just incapable of using google, I guess that would explain why you believe in nonsense. Here you go. First of all Russian economy is now rapidly growing while the west is going into a recession. This is not a country that’s showing any signs of being exhausted:\n
            \n
            - [newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-op…](https://www.newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-opinion-1861645)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-rosstat-2023-12-13/)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russian-factory-activity-expands-fa…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russian-factory-activity-expands-fastest-pace-seven-years-dec-pmi-2023-12-29/)\n
            \n
            and here’s some recent mainstream media reporting on the state of the war for you to chew on\n
            \n
            - [www.nytimes.com/2024/…/ukraine-russia-war.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/13/world/europe/ukraine-russia-war.html)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defen…](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defence-minister-says-2024-01-10/)\n
            - [lepoint.fr/…/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d…](https://www.lepoint.fr/monde/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d-une-debacle-05-01-2024-2549049_24.php)\n
            - [lemonde.fr/…/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-ex…](https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2023/09/27/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-express-discontent-i-repeatedly-told-them-nato-manuals-didn-t-apply_6140349_4.html)\n
            - [spiegel.de/…/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-…](https://www.spiegel.de/politik/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-deutschen-pannen-panzern-a-cd9421ae-4a96-4d4f-983a-6205a063ae15)\n
            - [archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73](https://archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73)\n
            - [telegraph.co.uk/…/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-…](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/12/27/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-tide-war-ukraine/)\n
            - [www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/…/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/ukraine-war-victory-hopes-dim-intl/index.html)\n
            - [cbc.ca/…/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232](https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232)\n
            \n
            and here’s some analysis from military strategists for you\n
            \n
            - [www.russiamatters.org/…/whats-ahead-war-ukraine](https://www.russiamatters.org/analysis/whats-ahead-war-ukraine)\n
            - […substack.com/…/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukra…](https://mearsheimer.substack.com/p/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukraine)\n
            - [rusi.org/…/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challeng…](https://www.rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challenges-and-innovations)\n
            \n
            Russia will win this war, and the only thing the west has achieved was to help destroy Ukraine by sabotaging negotiations in 2022.
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          +body: "Share a source for NATO invading Yugoslavia, Libya, Syria, and Afghanistan, is that what you’re asking there little buddy?"
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          +body: "No, I’m saying that anybody can type in words NATO and Yugoslavia or NATO and Libya into Google and see that you’re a liar."
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          +body: "Here’s an idea go sign up as a volunteer in Ukraine and fight yourself instead of cheering on for other people to die for you, you disgusting sack of shit."
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            The fact that the west was deeply involved in the coup is well documented even in western media\n
            \n
            - [quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukr…](https://www.quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukraines-2014-revolution-was-due-to-a-CIA-coup) ([archive.ph/BAxYc](https://archive.ph/BAxYc))\n
            - [consortiumnews.com/…/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-i…](https://consortiumnews.com/2022/12/29/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-in-kiev/)\n
            \n
            The foundations of my beliefs are that the west saw itself as the winner of the cold war after USSR dissolved, and decided to renege on all the promises that were made in the 90s. This created increasing tensions with Russia, and eventually led to the war we’re seeing play out in Ukraine. This is a proxy war between NATO and Russia, and it’s following the script that [was outlined by RAND](https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR3063.html).\n
            \n
            The west made a huge miscalculation thinking that it could defeat Russia militarily and economically, and now the whole thing is starting to backfire. NATO is finding that it lacks the industrial base to sustain the conflict. Russia managed to reroute its trade away from the west, which caused immeasurable economic damage to Europe. The world outside the G7 has been increasingly aligning towards Russia and China and away from the west. This proxy war is heralding the end of the unipolar moment that US enjoyed and ushering in multipolarity.\n
            \n
            > I have been using Google for long enough to know that it often shows us what we want to see, not that which is most likely to be correct. :)\n
            \n
            Have you considered that this might be why you still think that Ukraine is winning despite all the evidence to the contrary?\n
            \n
            > Regarding Russian economic data you seem to be flaunting, Russia has made it hard for outside sources to verify any of it.\n
            \n
            Every mainstream western outlet, including the IMF, agrees that Russian economy is growing. No serious economists dispute this.\n
            \n
            > You seem to derive a lot of your opinions from mearsheimer.substack.com source but the sources the author uses to prove your points often come from rt.com which is like, the worst source for this discussion.\n
            \n
            Mearsheimer is just one example, and he is a preeminent political scientist in the US. The reality is that there is propaganda in the west just like there is in Russia, and western media often omits covering things that RT covers. Simply dismissing information based on the source is frankly absurd.\n
            \n
            Incidentally, Mearsheimer gave an entire lecture back in 2014 predicting the events in Ukraine that are currently unfolding, seems to me that he might know what he’s talking about [www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4)\n
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            > I will, however, refrain from posting on lemmy.ml in the future, because I can see that you are a mod of several communities on this instance and your overall conduct in this post has been rather childish and disrespectful. I feel like mods should hold themselves to a higher standard.\n
            \n
            Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
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            The actual truth is that it’s NATO that’s been constantly expanding towards Russia. It’s also NATO that’s been invading and destroying countries since the end of USSR. Syria, Libya, and Yugoslavia being some prominent examples.\n
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            > False equivalence.\n
            \n
            It’s not.\n
            \n
            > Because Russia attacked them.\n
            \n
            No, Ukraine has been engaged in atrocities in Donbas since 2014 as even western media reported at the time.\n
            \n
            > It is in fact the opposite. No neutral country stays that way for long when Russia wants it’s territory.\n
            \n
            I see you have problems with reading comprehension.\n
            \n
            > If the West had not helped, there would be no Ukraine either. We would be condemning them to a decade of guerilla warfare and oppression. Emboldened by his victory, Putin would look further west.\n
            \n
            If the west didn’t run a coup to overthrow a democratically elected government then there would’ve been no troubles in Ukraine. Period.\n
            \n
            > Ukrainians now fight Russia, both sides are getting exhausted and it all depends on what help Ukraine gets. Your magical peace treaty would just mean Russia trying this again in 5 years or less.\n
            \n
            That’s complete and utter nonsense, and even western media now admits this.\n
            \n
            > You could have used the same arguments to make peace with the Nazis in 1941 and the world would only be worse for it.\n
            \n
            Now that’s what actual false equivalence looks like.
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            > Russian propaganda talking point.\n
            \n
            Ah yes, Russian propaganda point as reported by CNN back in 2014 [twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296](https://twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296)\n
            \n
            There’s even an hour long documentary from France on this [www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs)\n
            \n
            Pretending this just didn’t happen is the height of intellectual dishonesty.\n
            \n
            > Euromaidan was not a coup.\n
            \n
            Yes, it was and there’s overwhelming evidence for it.\n
            \n
            > Cite sources for the first point and military strategy analysts for the second.\n
            \n
            Are you just incapable of using google, I guess that would explain why you believe in nonsense. Here you go. First of all Russian economy is now rapidly growing while the west is going into a recession. This is not a country that’s showing any signs of being exhausted:\n
            \n
            - [newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-op…](https://www.newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-opinion-1861645)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-rosstat-2023-12-13/)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russian-factory-activity-expands-fa…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russian-factory-activity-expands-fastest-pace-seven-years-dec-pmi-2023-12-29/)\n
            \n
            and here’s some recent mainstream media reporting on the state of the war for you to chew on\n
            \n
            - [www.nytimes.com/2024/…/ukraine-russia-war.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/13/world/europe/ukraine-russia-war.html)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defen…](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defence-minister-says-2024-01-10/)\n
            - [lepoint.fr/…/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d…](https://www.lepoint.fr/monde/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d-une-debacle-05-01-2024-2549049_24.php)\n
            - [lemonde.fr/…/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-ex…](https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2023/09/27/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-express-discontent-i-repeatedly-told-them-nato-manuals-didn-t-apply_6140349_4.html)\n
            - [spiegel.de/…/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-…](https://www.spiegel.de/politik/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-deutschen-pannen-panzern-a-cd9421ae-4a96-4d4f-983a-6205a063ae15)\n
            - [archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73](https://archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73)\n
            - [telegraph.co.uk/…/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-…](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/12/27/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-tide-war-ukraine/)\n
            - [www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/…/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/ukraine-war-victory-hopes-dim-intl/index.html)\n
            - [cbc.ca/…/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232](https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232)\n
            \n
            and here’s some analysis from military strategists for you\n
            \n
            - [www.russiamatters.org/…/whats-ahead-war-ukraine](https://www.russiamatters.org/analysis/whats-ahead-war-ukraine)\n
            - […substack.com/…/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukra…](https://mearsheimer.substack.com/p/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukraine)\n
            - [rusi.org/…/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challeng…](https://www.rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challenges-and-innovations)\n
            \n
            Russia will win this war, and the only thing the west has achieved was to help destroy Ukraine by sabotaging negotiations in 2022.
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          +body: "Share a source for NATO invading Yugoslavia, Libya, Syria, and Afghanistan, is that what you’re asking there little buddy?"
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            The fact that the west was deeply involved in the coup is well documented even in western media\n
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            - [quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukr…](https://www.quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukraines-2014-revolution-was-due-to-a-CIA-coup) ([archive.ph/BAxYc](https://archive.ph/BAxYc))\n
            - [consortiumnews.com/…/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-i…](https://consortiumnews.com/2022/12/29/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-in-kiev/)\n
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            The foundations of my beliefs are that the west saw itself as the winner of the cold war after USSR dissolved, and decided to renege on all the promises that were made in the 90s. This created increasing tensions with Russia, and eventually led to the war we’re seeing play out in Ukraine. This is a proxy war between NATO and Russia, and it’s following the script that [was outlined by RAND](https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR3063.html).\n
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            The west made a huge miscalculation thinking that it could defeat Russia militarily and economically, and now the whole thing is starting to backfire. NATO is finding that it lacks the industrial base to sustain the conflict. Russia managed to reroute its trade away from the west, which caused immeasurable economic damage to Europe. The world outside the G7 has been increasingly aligning towards Russia and China and away from the west. This proxy war is heralding the end of the unipolar moment that US enjoyed and ushering in multipolarity.\n
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            > I have been using Google for long enough to know that it often shows us what we want to see, not that which is most likely to be correct. :)\n
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            Have you considered that this might be why you still think that Ukraine is winning despite all the evidence to the contrary?\n
            \n
            > Regarding Russian economic data you seem to be flaunting, Russia has made it hard for outside sources to verify any of it.\n
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            Every mainstream western outlet, including the IMF, agrees that Russian economy is growing. No serious economists dispute this.\n
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            > You seem to derive a lot of your opinions from mearsheimer.substack.com source but the sources the author uses to prove your points often come from rt.com which is like, the worst source for this discussion.\n
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            Mearsheimer is just one example, and he is a preeminent political scientist in the US. The reality is that there is propaganda in the west just like there is in Russia, and western media often omits covering things that RT covers. Simply dismissing information based on the source is frankly absurd.\n
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            Incidentally, Mearsheimer gave an entire lecture back in 2014 predicting the events in Ukraine that are currently unfolding, seems to me that he might know what he’s talking about [www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4)\n
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            > I will, however, refrain from posting on lemmy.ml in the future, because I can see that you are a mod of several communities on this instance and your overall conduct in this post has been rather childish and disrespectful. I feel like mods should hold themselves to a higher standard.\n
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            Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
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      Russian economy is growing while the west is going into a recession. [Russian factory activity grows at fastest pace in over six years](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-factory-activity-grows-fastest-pace-over-six-years-sept-pmi-2023-10-02/), meanwhile [while US manufacturing activity shrinks the most in three years.](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-07-03/us-manufacturing-activity-shrinks-by-most-in-three-years). UK now [can’t even make steel from raw materials.](https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/jan/18/tata-steel-to-shut-down-port-talbot-blast-furnaces-3000-jobs-at-risk)\n
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      Yes, people still bleat about a weaker Russia. 🤡
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          +body: "After two years, it’s pretty clear that the west is not capable of doing anything of the sort. All the west managed to achieve was to ensure that hundreds of thousands of people died, and that Ukraine lost large parts of its territory in the process. We now have admissions from Ukrainian negotiators that a peace deal was close to being reached last March before the west sabotaged it."
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            The actual truth is that it’s NATO that’s been constantly expanding towards Russia. It’s also NATO that’s been invading and destroying countries since the end of USSR. Syria, Libya, and Yugoslavia being some prominent examples.\n
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            Meanwhile, Russia tried to resolve this situation diplomatically since 2008 with Minsk agreements that western leaders now openly admit were a delaying tactic by the west.\n
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            Finally, section IX of Ukraine’s 1990 Declaration of State Sovereignty states the following:\n
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            [The Ukrainian SSR solemnly declares its intention of becoming a permanently neutral state that does not participate in military blocs and adheres to three nuclear free principles: to accept, to produce and to purchase no nuclear weapons.](https://web.archive.org/web/20130615031823/https://static.rada.gov.ua/site/postanova_eng/Declaration_of_State_Sovereignty_of_Ukraine_rev1.htm)\n
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            The whole legal basis for the existence of state of Ukraine is predicated on Ukraine staying neutral and not joining military blocs. Ukraine broke the very basis of this agreement when it tried to join NATO.\n
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            Now, thanks to western “help”, Ukraine will lose far more territory than it would have if the deal was done last year, and it may even cease to exist as a state. I can’t wait for you to explain how this actually helps people of Ukraine.
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          +body: "NATO is an aggressive alliance that has invaded and destroyed numerous countries. The fact that you keep pretending that it’s a defensive alliance just shows how utterly dishonest you are."
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            > False equivalence.\n
            \n
            It’s not.\n
            \n
            > Because Russia attacked them.\n
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            No, Ukraine has been engaged in atrocities in Donbas since 2014 as even western media reported at the time.\n
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            > It is in fact the opposite. No neutral country stays that way for long when Russia wants it’s territory.\n
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            I see you have problems with reading comprehension.\n
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            > If the West had not helped, there would be no Ukraine either. We would be condemning them to a decade of guerilla warfare and oppression. Emboldened by his victory, Putin would look further west.\n
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            If the west didn’t run a coup to overthrow a democratically elected government then there would’ve been no troubles in Ukraine. Period.\n
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            > Ukrainians now fight Russia, both sides are getting exhausted and it all depends on what help Ukraine gets. Your magical peace treaty would just mean Russia trying this again in 5 years or less.\n
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            That’s complete and utter nonsense, and even western media now admits this.\n
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            > You could have used the same arguments to make peace with the Nazis in 1941 and the world would only be worse for it.\n
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            Now that’s what actual false equivalence looks like.
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            > Russian propaganda talking point.\n
            \n
            Ah yes, Russian propaganda point as reported by CNN back in 2014 [twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296](https://twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296)\n
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            There’s even an hour long documentary from France on this [www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs)\n
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            Pretending this just didn’t happen is the height of intellectual dishonesty.\n
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            > Euromaidan was not a coup.\n
            \n
            Yes, it was and there’s overwhelming evidence for it.\n
            \n
            > Cite sources for the first point and military strategy analysts for the second.\n
            \n
            Are you just incapable of using google, I guess that would explain why you believe in nonsense. Here you go. First of all Russian economy is now rapidly growing while the west is going into a recession. This is not a country that’s showing any signs of being exhausted:\n
            \n
            - [newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-op…](https://www.newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-opinion-1861645)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-rosstat-2023-12-13/)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russian-factory-activity-expands-fa…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russian-factory-activity-expands-fastest-pace-seven-years-dec-pmi-2023-12-29/)\n
            \n
            and here’s some recent mainstream media reporting on the state of the war for you to chew on\n
            \n
            - [www.nytimes.com/2024/…/ukraine-russia-war.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/13/world/europe/ukraine-russia-war.html)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defen…](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defence-minister-says-2024-01-10/)\n
            - [lepoint.fr/…/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d…](https://www.lepoint.fr/monde/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d-une-debacle-05-01-2024-2549049_24.php)\n
            - [lemonde.fr/…/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-ex…](https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2023/09/27/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-express-discontent-i-repeatedly-told-them-nato-manuals-didn-t-apply_6140349_4.html)\n
            - [spiegel.de/…/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-…](https://www.spiegel.de/politik/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-deutschen-pannen-panzern-a-cd9421ae-4a96-4d4f-983a-6205a063ae15)\n
            - [archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73](https://archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73)\n
            - [telegraph.co.uk/…/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-…](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/12/27/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-tide-war-ukraine/)\n
            - [www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/…/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/ukraine-war-victory-hopes-dim-intl/index.html)\n
            - [cbc.ca/…/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232](https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232)\n
            \n
            and here’s some analysis from military strategists for you\n
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            - [www.russiamatters.org/…/whats-ahead-war-ukraine](https://www.russiamatters.org/analysis/whats-ahead-war-ukraine)\n
            - […substack.com/…/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukra…](https://mearsheimer.substack.com/p/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukraine)\n
            - [rusi.org/…/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challeng…](https://www.rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challenges-and-innovations)\n
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            Russia will win this war, and the only thing the west has achieved was to help destroy Ukraine by sabotaging negotiations in 2022.
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          +body: "Share a source for NATO invading Yugoslavia, Libya, Syria, and Afghanistan, is that what you’re asking there little buddy?"
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          +body: "No, I’m saying that anybody can type in words NATO and Yugoslavia or NATO and Libya into Google and see that you’re a liar."
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          +body: "Here’s an idea go sign up as a volunteer in Ukraine and fight yourself instead of cheering on for other people to die for you, you disgusting sack of shit."
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            The fact that the west was deeply involved in the coup is well documented even in western media\n
            \n
            - [quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukr…](https://www.quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukraines-2014-revolution-was-due-to-a-CIA-coup) ([archive.ph/BAxYc](https://archive.ph/BAxYc))\n
            - [consortiumnews.com/…/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-i…](https://consortiumnews.com/2022/12/29/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-in-kiev/)\n
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            The foundations of my beliefs are that the west saw itself as the winner of the cold war after USSR dissolved, and decided to renege on all the promises that were made in the 90s. This created increasing tensions with Russia, and eventually led to the war we’re seeing play out in Ukraine. This is a proxy war between NATO and Russia, and it’s following the script that [was outlined by RAND](https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR3063.html).\n
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            The west made a huge miscalculation thinking that it could defeat Russia militarily and economically, and now the whole thing is starting to backfire. NATO is finding that it lacks the industrial base to sustain the conflict. Russia managed to reroute its trade away from the west, which caused immeasurable economic damage to Europe. The world outside the G7 has been increasingly aligning towards Russia and China and away from the west. This proxy war is heralding the end of the unipolar moment that US enjoyed and ushering in multipolarity.\n
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            > I have been using Google for long enough to know that it often shows us what we want to see, not that which is most likely to be correct. :)\n
            \n
            Have you considered that this might be why you still think that Ukraine is winning despite all the evidence to the contrary?\n
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            > Regarding Russian economic data you seem to be flaunting, Russia has made it hard for outside sources to verify any of it.\n
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            Every mainstream western outlet, including the IMF, agrees that Russian economy is growing. No serious economists dispute this.\n
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            > You seem to derive a lot of your opinions from mearsheimer.substack.com source but the sources the author uses to prove your points often come from rt.com which is like, the worst source for this discussion.\n
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            Mearsheimer is just one example, and he is a preeminent political scientist in the US. The reality is that there is propaganda in the west just like there is in Russia, and western media often omits covering things that RT covers. Simply dismissing information based on the source is frankly absurd.\n
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            Incidentally, Mearsheimer gave an entire lecture back in 2014 predicting the events in Ukraine that are currently unfolding, seems to me that he might know what he’s talking about [www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4)\n
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            > I will, however, refrain from posting on lemmy.ml in the future, because I can see that you are a mod of several communities on this instance and your overall conduct in this post has been rather childish and disrespectful. I feel like mods should hold themselves to a higher standard.\n
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            Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
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            The actual truth is that it’s NATO that’s been constantly expanding towards Russia. It’s also NATO that’s been invading and destroying countries since the end of USSR. Syria, Libya, and Yugoslavia being some prominent examples.\n
            \n
            Meanwhile, Russia tried to resolve this situation diplomatically since 2008 with Minsk agreements that western leaders now openly admit were a delaying tactic by the west.\n
            \n
            Finally, section IX of Ukraine’s 1990 Declaration of State Sovereignty states the following:\n
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            [The Ukrainian SSR solemnly declares its intention of becoming a permanently neutral state that does not participate in military blocs and adheres to three nuclear free principles: to accept, to produce and to purchase no nuclear weapons.](https://web.archive.org/web/20130615031823/https://static.rada.gov.ua/site/postanova_eng/Declaration_of_State_Sovereignty_of_Ukraine_rev1.htm)\n
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            The whole legal basis for the existence of state of Ukraine is predicated on Ukraine staying neutral and not joining military blocs. Ukraine broke the very basis of this agreement when it tried to join NATO.\n
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            Now, thanks to western “help”, Ukraine will lose far more territory than it would have if the deal was done last year, and it may even cease to exist as a state. I can’t wait for you to explain how this actually helps people of Ukraine.
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          +body: "NATO is an aggressive alliance that has invaded and destroyed numerous countries. The fact that you keep pretending that it’s a defensive alliance just shows how utterly dishonest you are."
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            > False equivalence.\n
            \n
            It’s not.\n
            \n
            > Because Russia attacked them.\n
            \n
            No, Ukraine has been engaged in atrocities in Donbas since 2014 as even western media reported at the time.\n
            \n
            > It is in fact the opposite. No neutral country stays that way for long when Russia wants it’s territory.\n
            \n
            I see you have problems with reading comprehension.\n
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            > If the West had not helped, there would be no Ukraine either. We would be condemning them to a decade of guerilla warfare and oppression. Emboldened by his victory, Putin would look further west.\n
            \n
            If the west didn’t run a coup to overthrow a democratically elected government then there would’ve been no troubles in Ukraine. Period.\n
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            > Ukrainians now fight Russia, both sides are getting exhausted and it all depends on what help Ukraine gets. Your magical peace treaty would just mean Russia trying this again in 5 years or less.\n
            \n
            That’s complete and utter nonsense, and even western media now admits this.\n
            \n
            > You could have used the same arguments to make peace with the Nazis in 1941 and the world would only be worse for it.\n
            \n
            Now that’s what actual false equivalence looks like.
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            > Russian propaganda talking point.\n
            \n
            Ah yes, Russian propaganda point as reported by CNN back in 2014 [twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296](https://twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296)\n
            \n
            There’s even an hour long documentary from France on this [www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs)\n
            \n
            Pretending this just didn’t happen is the height of intellectual dishonesty.\n
            \n
            > Euromaidan was not a coup.\n
            \n
            Yes, it was and there’s overwhelming evidence for it.\n
            \n
            > Cite sources for the first point and military strategy analysts for the second.\n
            \n
            Are you just incapable of using google, I guess that would explain why you believe in nonsense. Here you go. First of all Russian economy is now rapidly growing while the west is going into a recession. This is not a country that’s showing any signs of being exhausted:\n
            \n
            - [newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-op…](https://www.newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-opinion-1861645)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-rosstat-2023-12-13/)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russian-factory-activity-expands-fa…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russian-factory-activity-expands-fastest-pace-seven-years-dec-pmi-2023-12-29/)\n
            \n
            and here’s some recent mainstream media reporting on the state of the war for you to chew on\n
            \n
            - [www.nytimes.com/2024/…/ukraine-russia-war.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/13/world/europe/ukraine-russia-war.html)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defen…](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defence-minister-says-2024-01-10/)\n
            - [lepoint.fr/…/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d…](https://www.lepoint.fr/monde/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d-une-debacle-05-01-2024-2549049_24.php)\n
            - [lemonde.fr/…/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-ex…](https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2023/09/27/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-express-discontent-i-repeatedly-told-them-nato-manuals-didn-t-apply_6140349_4.html)\n
            - [spiegel.de/…/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-…](https://www.spiegel.de/politik/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-deutschen-pannen-panzern-a-cd9421ae-4a96-4d4f-983a-6205a063ae15)\n
            - [archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73](https://archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73)\n
            - [telegraph.co.uk/…/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-…](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/12/27/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-tide-war-ukraine/)\n
            - [www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/…/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/ukraine-war-victory-hopes-dim-intl/index.html)\n
            - [cbc.ca/…/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232](https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232)\n
            \n
            and here’s some analysis from military strategists for you\n
            \n
            - [www.russiamatters.org/…/whats-ahead-war-ukraine](https://www.russiamatters.org/analysis/whats-ahead-war-ukraine)\n
            - […substack.com/…/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukra…](https://mearsheimer.substack.com/p/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukraine)\n
            - [rusi.org/…/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challeng…](https://www.rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challenges-and-innovations)\n
            \n
            Russia will win this war, and the only thing the west has achieved was to help destroy Ukraine by sabotaging negotiations in 2022.
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          +body: "Share a source for NATO invading Yugoslavia, Libya, Syria, and Afghanistan, is that what you’re asking there little buddy?"
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          +body: "No, I’m saying that anybody can type in words NATO and Yugoslavia or NATO and Libya into Google and see that you’re a liar."
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            The fact that the west was deeply involved in the coup is well documented even in western media\n
            \n
            - [quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukr…](https://www.quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukraines-2014-revolution-was-due-to-a-CIA-coup) ([archive.ph/BAxYc](https://archive.ph/BAxYc))\n
            - [consortiumnews.com/…/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-i…](https://consortiumnews.com/2022/12/29/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-in-kiev/)\n
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            The foundations of my beliefs are that the west saw itself as the winner of the cold war after USSR dissolved, and decided to renege on all the promises that were made in the 90s. This created increasing tensions with Russia, and eventually led to the war we’re seeing play out in Ukraine. This is a proxy war between NATO and Russia, and it’s following the script that [was outlined by RAND](https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR3063.html).\n
            \n
            The west made a huge miscalculation thinking that it could defeat Russia militarily and economically, and now the whole thing is starting to backfire. NATO is finding that it lacks the industrial base to sustain the conflict. Russia managed to reroute its trade away from the west, which caused immeasurable economic damage to Europe. The world outside the G7 has been increasingly aligning towards Russia and China and away from the west. This proxy war is heralding the end of the unipolar moment that US enjoyed and ushering in multipolarity.\n
            \n
            > I have been using Google for long enough to know that it often shows us what we want to see, not that which is most likely to be correct. :)\n
            \n
            Have you considered that this might be why you still think that Ukraine is winning despite all the evidence to the contrary?\n
            \n
            > Regarding Russian economic data you seem to be flaunting, Russia has made it hard for outside sources to verify any of it.\n
            \n
            Every mainstream western outlet, including the IMF, agrees that Russian economy is growing. No serious economists dispute this.\n
            \n
            > You seem to derive a lot of your opinions from mearsheimer.substack.com source but the sources the author uses to prove your points often come from rt.com which is like, the worst source for this discussion.\n
            \n
            Mearsheimer is just one example, and he is a preeminent political scientist in the US. The reality is that there is propaganda in the west just like there is in Russia, and western media often omits covering things that RT covers. Simply dismissing information based on the source is frankly absurd.\n
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            Incidentally, Mearsheimer gave an entire lecture back in 2014 predicting the events in Ukraine that are currently unfolding, seems to me that he might know what he’s talking about [www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4)\n
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            > I will, however, refrain from posting on lemmy.ml in the future, because I can see that you are a mod of several communities on this instance and your overall conduct in this post has been rather childish and disrespectful. I feel like mods should hold themselves to a higher standard.\n
            \n
            Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
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            The actual truth is that it’s NATO that’s been constantly expanding towards Russia. It’s also NATO that’s been invading and destroying countries since the end of USSR. Syria, Libya, and Yugoslavia being some prominent examples.\n
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            > False equivalence.\n
            \n
            It’s not.\n
            \n
            > Because Russia attacked them.\n
            \n
            No, Ukraine has been engaged in atrocities in Donbas since 2014 as even western media reported at the time.\n
            \n
            > It is in fact the opposite. No neutral country stays that way for long when Russia wants it’s territory.\n
            \n
            I see you have problems with reading comprehension.\n
            \n
            > If the West had not helped, there would be no Ukraine either. We would be condemning them to a decade of guerilla warfare and oppression. Emboldened by his victory, Putin would look further west.\n
            \n
            If the west didn’t run a coup to overthrow a democratically elected government then there would’ve been no troubles in Ukraine. Period.\n
            \n
            > Ukrainians now fight Russia, both sides are getting exhausted and it all depends on what help Ukraine gets. Your magical peace treaty would just mean Russia trying this again in 5 years or less.\n
            \n
            That’s complete and utter nonsense, and even western media now admits this.\n
            \n
            > You could have used the same arguments to make peace with the Nazis in 1941 and the world would only be worse for it.\n
            \n
            Now that’s what actual false equivalence looks like.
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            > Russian propaganda talking point.\n
            \n
            Ah yes, Russian propaganda point as reported by CNN back in 2014 [twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296](https://twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296)\n
            \n
            There’s even an hour long documentary from France on this [www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs)\n
            \n
            Pretending this just didn’t happen is the height of intellectual dishonesty.\n
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            > Euromaidan was not a coup.\n
            \n
            Yes, it was and there’s overwhelming evidence for it.\n
            \n
            > Cite sources for the first point and military strategy analysts for the second.\n
            \n
            Are you just incapable of using google, I guess that would explain why you believe in nonsense. Here you go. First of all Russian economy is now rapidly growing while the west is going into a recession. This is not a country that’s showing any signs of being exhausted:\n
            \n
            - [newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-op…](https://www.newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-opinion-1861645)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-rosstat-2023-12-13/)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russian-factory-activity-expands-fa…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russian-factory-activity-expands-fastest-pace-seven-years-dec-pmi-2023-12-29/)\n
            \n
            and here’s some recent mainstream media reporting on the state of the war for you to chew on\n
            \n
            - [www.nytimes.com/2024/…/ukraine-russia-war.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/13/world/europe/ukraine-russia-war.html)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defen…](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defence-minister-says-2024-01-10/)\n
            - [lepoint.fr/…/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d…](https://www.lepoint.fr/monde/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d-une-debacle-05-01-2024-2549049_24.php)\n
            - [lemonde.fr/…/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-ex…](https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2023/09/27/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-express-discontent-i-repeatedly-told-them-nato-manuals-didn-t-apply_6140349_4.html)\n
            - [spiegel.de/…/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-…](https://www.spiegel.de/politik/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-deutschen-pannen-panzern-a-cd9421ae-4a96-4d4f-983a-6205a063ae15)\n
            - [archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73](https://archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73)\n
            - [telegraph.co.uk/…/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-…](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/12/27/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-tide-war-ukraine/)\n
            - [www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/…/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/ukraine-war-victory-hopes-dim-intl/index.html)\n
            - [cbc.ca/…/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232](https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232)\n
            \n
            and here’s some analysis from military strategists for you\n
            \n
            - [www.russiamatters.org/…/whats-ahead-war-ukraine](https://www.russiamatters.org/analysis/whats-ahead-war-ukraine)\n
            - […substack.com/…/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukra…](https://mearsheimer.substack.com/p/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukraine)\n
            - [rusi.org/…/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challeng…](https://www.rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challenges-and-innovations)\n
            \n
            Russia will win this war, and the only thing the west has achieved was to help destroy Ukraine by sabotaging negotiations in 2022.
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            The fact that the west was deeply involved in the coup is well documented even in western media\n
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            - [quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukr…](https://www.quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukraines-2014-revolution-was-due-to-a-CIA-coup) ([archive.ph/BAxYc](https://archive.ph/BAxYc))\n
            - [consortiumnews.com/…/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-i…](https://consortiumnews.com/2022/12/29/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-in-kiev/)\n
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            The foundations of my beliefs are that the west saw itself as the winner of the cold war after USSR dissolved, and decided to renege on all the promises that were made in the 90s. This created increasing tensions with Russia, and eventually led to the war we’re seeing play out in Ukraine. This is a proxy war between NATO and Russia, and it’s following the script that [was outlined by RAND](https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR3063.html).\n
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            The west made a huge miscalculation thinking that it could defeat Russia militarily and economically, and now the whole thing is starting to backfire. NATO is finding that it lacks the industrial base to sustain the conflict. Russia managed to reroute its trade away from the west, which caused immeasurable economic damage to Europe. The world outside the G7 has been increasingly aligning towards Russia and China and away from the west. This proxy war is heralding the end of the unipolar moment that US enjoyed and ushering in multipolarity.\n
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            > I have been using Google for long enough to know that it often shows us what we want to see, not that which is most likely to be correct. :)\n
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            Have you considered that this might be why you still think that Ukraine is winning despite all the evidence to the contrary?\n
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            > Regarding Russian economic data you seem to be flaunting, Russia has made it hard for outside sources to verify any of it.\n
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            Every mainstream western outlet, including the IMF, agrees that Russian economy is growing. No serious economists dispute this.\n
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            > You seem to derive a lot of your opinions from mearsheimer.substack.com source but the sources the author uses to prove your points often come from rt.com which is like, the worst source for this discussion.\n
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            Mearsheimer is just one example, and he is a preeminent political scientist in the US. The reality is that there is propaganda in the west just like there is in Russia, and western media often omits covering things that RT covers. Simply dismissing information based on the source is frankly absurd.\n
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            Incidentally, Mearsheimer gave an entire lecture back in 2014 predicting the events in Ukraine that are currently unfolding, seems to me that he might know what he’s talking about [www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4)\n
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            > I will, however, refrain from posting on lemmy.ml in the future, because I can see that you are a mod of several communities on this instance and your overall conduct in this post has been rather childish and disrespectful. I feel like mods should hold themselves to a higher standard.\n
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            Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
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      Russian economy is growing while the west is going into a recession. [Russian factory activity grows at fastest pace in over six years](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-factory-activity-grows-fastest-pace-over-six-years-sept-pmi-2023-10-02/), meanwhile [while US manufacturing activity shrinks the most in three years.](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-07-03/us-manufacturing-activity-shrinks-by-most-in-three-years). UK now [can’t even make steel from raw materials.](https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/jan/18/tata-steel-to-shut-down-port-talbot-blast-furnaces-3000-jobs-at-risk)\n
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          +body: "After two years, it’s pretty clear that the west is not capable of doing anything of the sort. All the west managed to achieve was to ensure that hundreds of thousands of people died, and that Ukraine lost large parts of its territory in the process. We now have admissions from Ukrainian negotiators that a peace deal was close to being reached last March before the west sabotaged it."
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            The actual truth is that it’s NATO that’s been constantly expanding towards Russia. It’s also NATO that’s been invading and destroying countries since the end of USSR. Syria, Libya, and Yugoslavia being some prominent examples.\n
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            Meanwhile, Russia tried to resolve this situation diplomatically since 2008 with Minsk agreements that western leaders now openly admit were a delaying tactic by the west.\n
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            Finally, section IX of Ukraine’s 1990 Declaration of State Sovereignty states the following:\n
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            The whole legal basis for the existence of state of Ukraine is predicated on Ukraine staying neutral and not joining military blocs. Ukraine broke the very basis of this agreement when it tried to join NATO.\n
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            Now, thanks to western “help”, Ukraine will lose far more territory than it would have if the deal was done last year, and it may even cease to exist as a state. I can’t wait for you to explain how this actually helps people of Ukraine.
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          +body: "NATO is an aggressive alliance that has invaded and destroyed numerous countries. The fact that you keep pretending that it’s a defensive alliance just shows how utterly dishonest you are."
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            > False equivalence.\n
            \n
            It’s not.\n
            \n
            > Because Russia attacked them.\n
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            No, Ukraine has been engaged in atrocities in Donbas since 2014 as even western media reported at the time.\n
            \n
            > It is in fact the opposite. No neutral country stays that way for long when Russia wants it’s territory.\n
            \n
            I see you have problems with reading comprehension.\n
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            > If the West had not helped, there would be no Ukraine either. We would be condemning them to a decade of guerilla warfare and oppression. Emboldened by his victory, Putin would look further west.\n
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            If the west didn’t run a coup to overthrow a democratically elected government then there would’ve been no troubles in Ukraine. Period.\n
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            > Ukrainians now fight Russia, both sides are getting exhausted and it all depends on what help Ukraine gets. Your magical peace treaty would just mean Russia trying this again in 5 years or less.\n
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            That’s complete and utter nonsense, and even western media now admits this.\n
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            > You could have used the same arguments to make peace with the Nazis in 1941 and the world would only be worse for it.\n
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            Now that’s what actual false equivalence looks like.
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            > Russian propaganda talking point.\n
            \n
            Ah yes, Russian propaganda point as reported by CNN back in 2014 [twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296](https://twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296)\n
            \n
            There’s even an hour long documentary from France on this [www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs)\n
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            Pretending this just didn’t happen is the height of intellectual dishonesty.\n
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            > Euromaidan was not a coup.\n
            \n
            Yes, it was and there’s overwhelming evidence for it.\n
            \n
            > Cite sources for the first point and military strategy analysts for the second.\n
            \n
            Are you just incapable of using google, I guess that would explain why you believe in nonsense. Here you go. First of all Russian economy is now rapidly growing while the west is going into a recession. This is not a country that’s showing any signs of being exhausted:\n
            \n
            - [newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-op…](https://www.newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-opinion-1861645)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-rosstat-2023-12-13/)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russian-factory-activity-expands-fa…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russian-factory-activity-expands-fastest-pace-seven-years-dec-pmi-2023-12-29/)\n
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            and here’s some recent mainstream media reporting on the state of the war for you to chew on\n
            \n
            - [www.nytimes.com/2024/…/ukraine-russia-war.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/13/world/europe/ukraine-russia-war.html)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defen…](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defence-minister-says-2024-01-10/)\n
            - [lepoint.fr/…/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d…](https://www.lepoint.fr/monde/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d-une-debacle-05-01-2024-2549049_24.php)\n
            - [lemonde.fr/…/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-ex…](https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2023/09/27/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-express-discontent-i-repeatedly-told-them-nato-manuals-didn-t-apply_6140349_4.html)\n
            - [spiegel.de/…/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-…](https://www.spiegel.de/politik/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-deutschen-pannen-panzern-a-cd9421ae-4a96-4d4f-983a-6205a063ae15)\n
            - [archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73](https://archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73)\n
            - [telegraph.co.uk/…/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-…](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/12/27/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-tide-war-ukraine/)\n
            - [www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/…/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/ukraine-war-victory-hopes-dim-intl/index.html)\n
            - [cbc.ca/…/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232](https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232)\n
            \n
            and here’s some analysis from military strategists for you\n
            \n
            - [www.russiamatters.org/…/whats-ahead-war-ukraine](https://www.russiamatters.org/analysis/whats-ahead-war-ukraine)\n
            - […substack.com/…/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukra…](https://mearsheimer.substack.com/p/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukraine)\n
            - [rusi.org/…/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challeng…](https://www.rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challenges-and-innovations)\n
            \n
            Russia will win this war, and the only thing the west has achieved was to help destroy Ukraine by sabotaging negotiations in 2022.
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          +body: "Share a source for NATO invading Yugoslavia, Libya, Syria, and Afghanistan, is that what you’re asking there little buddy?"
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            The fact that the west was deeply involved in the coup is well documented even in western media\n
            \n
            - [quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukr…](https://www.quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukraines-2014-revolution-was-due-to-a-CIA-coup) ([archive.ph/BAxYc](https://archive.ph/BAxYc))\n
            - [consortiumnews.com/…/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-i…](https://consortiumnews.com/2022/12/29/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-in-kiev/)\n
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            The foundations of my beliefs are that the west saw itself as the winner of the cold war after USSR dissolved, and decided to renege on all the promises that were made in the 90s. This created increasing tensions with Russia, and eventually led to the war we’re seeing play out in Ukraine. This is a proxy war between NATO and Russia, and it’s following the script that [was outlined by RAND](https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR3063.html).\n
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            The west made a huge miscalculation thinking that it could defeat Russia militarily and economically, and now the whole thing is starting to backfire. NATO is finding that it lacks the industrial base to sustain the conflict. Russia managed to reroute its trade away from the west, which caused immeasurable economic damage to Europe. The world outside the G7 has been increasingly aligning towards Russia and China and away from the west. This proxy war is heralding the end of the unipolar moment that US enjoyed and ushering in multipolarity.\n
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            > I have been using Google for long enough to know that it often shows us what we want to see, not that which is most likely to be correct. :)\n
            \n
            Have you considered that this might be why you still think that Ukraine is winning despite all the evidence to the contrary?\n
            \n
            > Regarding Russian economic data you seem to be flaunting, Russia has made it hard for outside sources to verify any of it.\n
            \n
            Every mainstream western outlet, including the IMF, agrees that Russian economy is growing. No serious economists dispute this.\n
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            > You seem to derive a lot of your opinions from mearsheimer.substack.com source but the sources the author uses to prove your points often come from rt.com which is like, the worst source for this discussion.\n
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            Mearsheimer is just one example, and he is a preeminent political scientist in the US. The reality is that there is propaganda in the west just like there is in Russia, and western media often omits covering things that RT covers. Simply dismissing information based on the source is frankly absurd.\n
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            Incidentally, Mearsheimer gave an entire lecture back in 2014 predicting the events in Ukraine that are currently unfolding, seems to me that he might know what he’s talking about [www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4)\n
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            > I will, however, refrain from posting on lemmy.ml in the future, because I can see that you are a mod of several communities on this instance and your overall conduct in this post has been rather childish and disrespectful. I feel like mods should hold themselves to a higher standard.\n
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            Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
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      Russian economy is growing while the west is going into a recession. [Russian factory activity grows at fastest pace in over six years](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-factory-activity-grows-fastest-pace-over-six-years-sept-pmi-2023-10-02/), meanwhile [while US manufacturing activity shrinks the most in three years.](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-07-03/us-manufacturing-activity-shrinks-by-most-in-three-years). UK now [can’t even make steel from raw materials.](https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/jan/18/tata-steel-to-shut-down-port-talbot-blast-furnaces-3000-jobs-at-risk)\n
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          +body: "After two years, it’s pretty clear that the west is not capable of doing anything of the sort. All the west managed to achieve was to ensure that hundreds of thousands of people died, and that Ukraine lost large parts of its territory in the process. We now have admissions from Ukrainian negotiators that a peace deal was close to being reached last March before the west sabotaged it."
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            The actual truth is that it’s NATO that’s been constantly expanding towards Russia. It’s also NATO that’s been invading and destroying countries since the end of USSR. Syria, Libya, and Yugoslavia being some prominent examples.\n
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            Meanwhile, Russia tried to resolve this situation diplomatically since 2008 with Minsk agreements that western leaders now openly admit were a delaying tactic by the west.\n
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            Finally, section IX of Ukraine’s 1990 Declaration of State Sovereignty states the following:\n
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            [The Ukrainian SSR solemnly declares its intention of becoming a permanently neutral state that does not participate in military blocs and adheres to three nuclear free principles: to accept, to produce and to purchase no nuclear weapons.](https://web.archive.org/web/20130615031823/https://static.rada.gov.ua/site/postanova_eng/Declaration_of_State_Sovereignty_of_Ukraine_rev1.htm)\n
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            The whole legal basis for the existence of state of Ukraine is predicated on Ukraine staying neutral and not joining military blocs. Ukraine broke the very basis of this agreement when it tried to join NATO.\n
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            Now, thanks to western “help”, Ukraine will lose far more territory than it would have if the deal was done last year, and it may even cease to exist as a state. I can’t wait for you to explain how this actually helps people of Ukraine.
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          +body: "NATO is an aggressive alliance that has invaded and destroyed numerous countries. The fact that you keep pretending that it’s a defensive alliance just shows how utterly dishonest you are."
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            > False equivalence.\n
            \n
            It’s not.\n
            \n
            > Because Russia attacked them.\n
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            No, Ukraine has been engaged in atrocities in Donbas since 2014 as even western media reported at the time.\n
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            > It is in fact the opposite. No neutral country stays that way for long when Russia wants it’s territory.\n
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            I see you have problems with reading comprehension.\n
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            > If the West had not helped, there would be no Ukraine either. We would be condemning them to a decade of guerilla warfare and oppression. Emboldened by his victory, Putin would look further west.\n
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            If the west didn’t run a coup to overthrow a democratically elected government then there would’ve been no troubles in Ukraine. Period.\n
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            > Ukrainians now fight Russia, both sides are getting exhausted and it all depends on what help Ukraine gets. Your magical peace treaty would just mean Russia trying this again in 5 years or less.\n
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            That’s complete and utter nonsense, and even western media now admits this.\n
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            > You could have used the same arguments to make peace with the Nazis in 1941 and the world would only be worse for it.\n
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            Now that’s what actual false equivalence looks like.
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            > Russian propaganda talking point.\n
            \n
            Ah yes, Russian propaganda point as reported by CNN back in 2014 [twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296](https://twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296)\n
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            There’s even an hour long documentary from France on this [www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs)\n
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            Pretending this just didn’t happen is the height of intellectual dishonesty.\n
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            > Euromaidan was not a coup.\n
            \n
            Yes, it was and there’s overwhelming evidence for it.\n
            \n
            > Cite sources for the first point and military strategy analysts for the second.\n
            \n
            Are you just incapable of using google, I guess that would explain why you believe in nonsense. Here you go. First of all Russian economy is now rapidly growing while the west is going into a recession. This is not a country that’s showing any signs of being exhausted:\n
            \n
            - [newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-op…](https://www.newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-opinion-1861645)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-rosstat-2023-12-13/)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russian-factory-activity-expands-fa…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russian-factory-activity-expands-fastest-pace-seven-years-dec-pmi-2023-12-29/)\n
            \n
            and here’s some recent mainstream media reporting on the state of the war for you to chew on\n
            \n
            - [www.nytimes.com/2024/…/ukraine-russia-war.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/13/world/europe/ukraine-russia-war.html)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defen…](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defence-minister-says-2024-01-10/)\n
            - [lepoint.fr/…/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d…](https://www.lepoint.fr/monde/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d-une-debacle-05-01-2024-2549049_24.php)\n
            - [lemonde.fr/…/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-ex…](https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2023/09/27/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-express-discontent-i-repeatedly-told-them-nato-manuals-didn-t-apply_6140349_4.html)\n
            - [spiegel.de/…/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-…](https://www.spiegel.de/politik/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-deutschen-pannen-panzern-a-cd9421ae-4a96-4d4f-983a-6205a063ae15)\n
            - [archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73](https://archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73)\n
            - [telegraph.co.uk/…/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-…](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/12/27/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-tide-war-ukraine/)\n
            - [www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/…/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/ukraine-war-victory-hopes-dim-intl/index.html)\n
            - [cbc.ca/…/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232](https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232)\n
            \n
            and here’s some analysis from military strategists for you\n
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            - [www.russiamatters.org/…/whats-ahead-war-ukraine](https://www.russiamatters.org/analysis/whats-ahead-war-ukraine)\n
            - […substack.com/…/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukra…](https://mearsheimer.substack.com/p/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukraine)\n
            - [rusi.org/…/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challeng…](https://www.rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challenges-and-innovations)\n
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            Russia will win this war, and the only thing the west has achieved was to help destroy Ukraine by sabotaging negotiations in 2022.
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          +body: "Share a source for NATO invading Yugoslavia, Libya, Syria, and Afghanistan, is that what you’re asking there little buddy?"
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            Russian economy is growing while the west is going into a recession. [Russian factory activity grows at fastest pace in over six years](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-factory-activity-grows-fastest-pace-over-six-years-sept-pmi-2023-10-02/), meanwhile [while US manufacturing activity shrinks the most in three years.](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-07-03/us-manufacturing-activity-shrinks-by-most-in-three-years). UK now [can’t even make steel from raw materials.](https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/jan/18/tata-steel-to-shut-down-port-talbot-blast-furnaces-3000-jobs-at-risk)\n
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            Yes, people still bleat about a weaker Russia. 🤡
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            The fact that the west was deeply involved in the coup is well documented even in western media\n
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            - [quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukr…](https://www.quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukraines-2014-revolution-was-due-to-a-CIA-coup) ([archive.ph/BAxYc](https://archive.ph/BAxYc))\n
            - [consortiumnews.com/…/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-i…](https://consortiumnews.com/2022/12/29/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-in-kiev/)\n
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            The foundations of my beliefs are that the west saw itself as the winner of the cold war after USSR dissolved, and decided to renege on all the promises that were made in the 90s. This created increasing tensions with Russia, and eventually led to the war we’re seeing play out in Ukraine. This is a proxy war between NATO and Russia, and it’s following the script that [was outlined by RAND](https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR3063.html).\n
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            The west made a huge miscalculation thinking that it could defeat Russia militarily and economically, and now the whole thing is starting to backfire. NATO is finding that it lacks the industrial base to sustain the conflict. Russia managed to reroute its trade away from the west, which caused immeasurable economic damage to Europe. The world outside the G7 has been increasingly aligning towards Russia and China and away from the west. This proxy war is heralding the end of the unipolar moment that US enjoyed and ushering in multipolarity.\n
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            > I have been using Google for long enough to know that it often shows us what we want to see, not that which is most likely to be correct. :)\n
            \n
            Have you considered that this might be why you still think that Ukraine is winning despite all the evidence to the contrary?\n
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            > Regarding Russian economic data you seem to be flaunting, Russia has made it hard for outside sources to verify any of it.\n
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            Every mainstream western outlet, including the IMF, agrees that Russian economy is growing. No serious economists dispute this.\n
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            > You seem to derive a lot of your opinions from mearsheimer.substack.com source but the sources the author uses to prove your points often come from rt.com which is like, the worst source for this discussion.\n
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            Mearsheimer is just one example, and he is a preeminent political scientist in the US. The reality is that there is propaganda in the west just like there is in Russia, and western media often omits covering things that RT covers. Simply dismissing information based on the source is frankly absurd.\n
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            Incidentally, Mearsheimer gave an entire lecture back in 2014 predicting the events in Ukraine that are currently unfolding, seems to me that he might know what he’s talking about [www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4)\n
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            > I will, however, refrain from posting on lemmy.ml in the future, because I can see that you are a mod of several communities on this instance and your overall conduct in this post has been rather childish and disrespectful. I feel like mods should hold themselves to a higher standard.\n
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            Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
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            The actual truth is that it’s NATO that’s been constantly expanding towards Russia. It’s also NATO that’s been invading and destroying countries since the end of USSR. Syria, Libya, and Yugoslavia being some prominent examples.\n
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            Meanwhile, Russia tried to resolve this situation diplomatically since 2008 with Minsk agreements that western leaders now openly admit were a delaying tactic by the west.\n
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            Finally, section IX of Ukraine’s 1990 Declaration of State Sovereignty states the following:\n
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            [The Ukrainian SSR solemnly declares its intention of becoming a permanently neutral state that does not participate in military blocs and adheres to three nuclear free principles: to accept, to produce and to purchase no nuclear weapons.](https://web.archive.org/web/20130615031823/https://static.rada.gov.ua/site/postanova_eng/Declaration_of_State_Sovereignty_of_Ukraine_rev1.htm)\n
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            The whole legal basis for the existence of state of Ukraine is predicated on Ukraine staying neutral and not joining military blocs. Ukraine broke the very basis of this agreement when it tried to join NATO.\n
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            Now, thanks to western “help”, Ukraine will lose far more territory than it would have if the deal was done last year, and it may even cease to exist as a state. I can’t wait for you to explain how this actually helps people of Ukraine.
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          +body: "NATO is an aggressive alliance that has invaded and destroyed numerous countries. The fact that you keep pretending that it’s a defensive alliance just shows how utterly dishonest you are."
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            > False equivalence.\n
            \n
            It’s not.\n
            \n
            > Because Russia attacked them.\n
            \n
            No, Ukraine has been engaged in atrocities in Donbas since 2014 as even western media reported at the time.\n
            \n
            > It is in fact the opposite. No neutral country stays that way for long when Russia wants it’s territory.\n
            \n
            I see you have problems with reading comprehension.\n
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            > If the West had not helped, there would be no Ukraine either. We would be condemning them to a decade of guerilla warfare and oppression. Emboldened by his victory, Putin would look further west.\n
            \n
            If the west didn’t run a coup to overthrow a democratically elected government then there would’ve been no troubles in Ukraine. Period.\n
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            > Ukrainians now fight Russia, both sides are getting exhausted and it all depends on what help Ukraine gets. Your magical peace treaty would just mean Russia trying this again in 5 years or less.\n
            \n
            That’s complete and utter nonsense, and even western media now admits this.\n
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            > You could have used the same arguments to make peace with the Nazis in 1941 and the world would only be worse for it.\n
            \n
            Now that’s what actual false equivalence looks like.
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            > Russian propaganda talking point.\n
            \n
            Ah yes, Russian propaganda point as reported by CNN back in 2014 [twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296](https://twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296)\n
            \n
            There’s even an hour long documentary from France on this [www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs)\n
            \n
            Pretending this just didn’t happen is the height of intellectual dishonesty.\n
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            > Euromaidan was not a coup.\n
            \n
            Yes, it was and there’s overwhelming evidence for it.\n
            \n
            > Cite sources for the first point and military strategy analysts for the second.\n
            \n
            Are you just incapable of using google, I guess that would explain why you believe in nonsense. Here you go. First of all Russian economy is now rapidly growing while the west is going into a recession. This is not a country that’s showing any signs of being exhausted:\n
            \n
            - [newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-op…](https://www.newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-opinion-1861645)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-rosstat-2023-12-13/)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russian-factory-activity-expands-fa…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russian-factory-activity-expands-fastest-pace-seven-years-dec-pmi-2023-12-29/)\n
            \n
            and here’s some recent mainstream media reporting on the state of the war for you to chew on\n
            \n
            - [www.nytimes.com/2024/…/ukraine-russia-war.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/13/world/europe/ukraine-russia-war.html)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defen…](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defence-minister-says-2024-01-10/)\n
            - [lepoint.fr/…/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d…](https://www.lepoint.fr/monde/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d-une-debacle-05-01-2024-2549049_24.php)\n
            - [lemonde.fr/…/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-ex…](https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2023/09/27/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-express-discontent-i-repeatedly-told-them-nato-manuals-didn-t-apply_6140349_4.html)\n
            - [spiegel.de/…/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-…](https://www.spiegel.de/politik/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-deutschen-pannen-panzern-a-cd9421ae-4a96-4d4f-983a-6205a063ae15)\n
            - [archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73](https://archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73)\n
            - [telegraph.co.uk/…/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-…](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/12/27/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-tide-war-ukraine/)\n
            - [www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/…/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/ukraine-war-victory-hopes-dim-intl/index.html)\n
            - [cbc.ca/…/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232](https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232)\n
            \n
            and here’s some analysis from military strategists for you\n
            \n
            - [www.russiamatters.org/…/whats-ahead-war-ukraine](https://www.russiamatters.org/analysis/whats-ahead-war-ukraine)\n
            - […substack.com/…/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukra…](https://mearsheimer.substack.com/p/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukraine)\n
            - [rusi.org/…/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challeng…](https://www.rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challenges-and-innovations)\n
            \n
            Russia will win this war, and the only thing the west has achieved was to help destroy Ukraine by sabotaging negotiations in 2022.
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            Russian economy is growing while the west is going into a recession. [Russian factory activity grows at fastest pace in over six years](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-factory-activity-grows-fastest-pace-over-six-years-sept-pmi-2023-10-02/), meanwhile [while US manufacturing activity shrinks the most in three years.](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-07-03/us-manufacturing-activity-shrinks-by-most-in-three-years). UK now [can’t even make steel from raw materials.](https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/jan/18/tata-steel-to-shut-down-port-talbot-blast-furnaces-3000-jobs-at-risk)\n
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            Yes, people still bleat about a weaker Russia. 🤡
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            The fact that the west was deeply involved in the coup is well documented even in western media\n
            \n
            - [quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukr…](https://www.quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukraines-2014-revolution-was-due-to-a-CIA-coup) ([archive.ph/BAxYc](https://archive.ph/BAxYc))\n
            - [consortiumnews.com/…/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-i…](https://consortiumnews.com/2022/12/29/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-in-kiev/)\n
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            The foundations of my beliefs are that the west saw itself as the winner of the cold war after USSR dissolved, and decided to renege on all the promises that were made in the 90s. This created increasing tensions with Russia, and eventually led to the war we’re seeing play out in Ukraine. This is a proxy war between NATO and Russia, and it’s following the script that [was outlined by RAND](https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR3063.html).\n
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            The west made a huge miscalculation thinking that it could defeat Russia militarily and economically, and now the whole thing is starting to backfire. NATO is finding that it lacks the industrial base to sustain the conflict. Russia managed to reroute its trade away from the west, which caused immeasurable economic damage to Europe. The world outside the G7 has been increasingly aligning towards Russia and China and away from the west. This proxy war is heralding the end of the unipolar moment that US enjoyed and ushering in multipolarity.\n
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            > I have been using Google for long enough to know that it often shows us what we want to see, not that which is most likely to be correct. :)\n
            \n
            Have you considered that this might be why you still think that Ukraine is winning despite all the evidence to the contrary?\n
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            > Regarding Russian economic data you seem to be flaunting, Russia has made it hard for outside sources to verify any of it.\n
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            Every mainstream western outlet, including the IMF, agrees that Russian economy is growing. No serious economists dispute this.\n
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            > You seem to derive a lot of your opinions from mearsheimer.substack.com source but the sources the author uses to prove your points often come from rt.com which is like, the worst source for this discussion.\n
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            Mearsheimer is just one example, and he is a preeminent political scientist in the US. The reality is that there is propaganda in the west just like there is in Russia, and western media often omits covering things that RT covers. Simply dismissing information based on the source is frankly absurd.\n
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            Incidentally, Mearsheimer gave an entire lecture back in 2014 predicting the events in Ukraine that are currently unfolding, seems to me that he might know what he’s talking about [www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4)\n
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            > I will, however, refrain from posting on lemmy.ml in the future, because I can see that you are a mod of several communities on this instance and your overall conduct in this post has been rather childish and disrespectful. I feel like mods should hold themselves to a higher standard.\n
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            Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
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          +body: "After two years, it’s pretty clear that the west is not capable of doing anything of the sort. All the west managed to achieve was to ensure that hundreds of thousands of people died, and that Ukraine lost large parts of its territory in the process. We now have admissions from Ukrainian negotiators that a peace deal was close to being reached last March before the west sabotaged it."
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            The actual truth is that it’s NATO that’s been constantly expanding towards Russia. It’s also NATO that’s been invading and destroying countries since the end of USSR. Syria, Libya, and Yugoslavia being some prominent examples.\n
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            Meanwhile, Russia tried to resolve this situation diplomatically since 2008 with Minsk agreements that western leaders now openly admit were a delaying tactic by the west.\n
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            Finally, section IX of Ukraine’s 1990 Declaration of State Sovereignty states the following:\n
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            The whole legal basis for the existence of state of Ukraine is predicated on Ukraine staying neutral and not joining military blocs. Ukraine broke the very basis of this agreement when it tried to join NATO.\n
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            Now, thanks to western “help”, Ukraine will lose far more territory than it would have if the deal was done last year, and it may even cease to exist as a state. I can’t wait for you to explain how this actually helps people of Ukraine.
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          +body: "NATO is an aggressive alliance that has invaded and destroyed numerous countries. The fact that you keep pretending that it’s a defensive alliance just shows how utterly dishonest you are."
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            > False equivalence.\n
            \n
            It’s not.\n
            \n
            > Because Russia attacked them.\n
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            No, Ukraine has been engaged in atrocities in Donbas since 2014 as even western media reported at the time.\n
            \n
            > It is in fact the opposite. No neutral country stays that way for long when Russia wants it’s territory.\n
            \n
            I see you have problems with reading comprehension.\n
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            > If the West had not helped, there would be no Ukraine either. We would be condemning them to a decade of guerilla warfare and oppression. Emboldened by his victory, Putin would look further west.\n
            \n
            If the west didn’t run a coup to overthrow a democratically elected government then there would’ve been no troubles in Ukraine. Period.\n
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            > Ukrainians now fight Russia, both sides are getting exhausted and it all depends on what help Ukraine gets. Your magical peace treaty would just mean Russia trying this again in 5 years or less.\n
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            That’s complete and utter nonsense, and even western media now admits this.\n
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            > You could have used the same arguments to make peace with the Nazis in 1941 and the world would only be worse for it.\n
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            Now that’s what actual false equivalence looks like.
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            > Russian propaganda talking point.\n
            \n
            Ah yes, Russian propaganda point as reported by CNN back in 2014 [twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296](https://twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296)\n
            \n
            There’s even an hour long documentary from France on this [www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs)\n
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            Pretending this just didn’t happen is the height of intellectual dishonesty.\n
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            > Euromaidan was not a coup.\n
            \n
            Yes, it was and there’s overwhelming evidence for it.\n
            \n
            > Cite sources for the first point and military strategy analysts for the second.\n
            \n
            Are you just incapable of using google, I guess that would explain why you believe in nonsense. Here you go. First of all Russian economy is now rapidly growing while the west is going into a recession. This is not a country that’s showing any signs of being exhausted:\n
            \n
            - [newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-op…](https://www.newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-opinion-1861645)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-rosstat-2023-12-13/)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russian-factory-activity-expands-fa…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russian-factory-activity-expands-fastest-pace-seven-years-dec-pmi-2023-12-29/)\n
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            and here’s some recent mainstream media reporting on the state of the war for you to chew on\n
            \n
            - [www.nytimes.com/2024/…/ukraine-russia-war.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/13/world/europe/ukraine-russia-war.html)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defen…](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defence-minister-says-2024-01-10/)\n
            - [lepoint.fr/…/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d…](https://www.lepoint.fr/monde/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d-une-debacle-05-01-2024-2549049_24.php)\n
            - [lemonde.fr/…/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-ex…](https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2023/09/27/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-express-discontent-i-repeatedly-told-them-nato-manuals-didn-t-apply_6140349_4.html)\n
            - [spiegel.de/…/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-…](https://www.spiegel.de/politik/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-deutschen-pannen-panzern-a-cd9421ae-4a96-4d4f-983a-6205a063ae15)\n
            - [archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73](https://archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73)\n
            - [telegraph.co.uk/…/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-…](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/12/27/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-tide-war-ukraine/)\n
            - [www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/…/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/ukraine-war-victory-hopes-dim-intl/index.html)\n
            - [cbc.ca/…/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232](https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232)\n
            \n
            and here’s some analysis from military strategists for you\n
            \n
            - [www.russiamatters.org/…/whats-ahead-war-ukraine](https://www.russiamatters.org/analysis/whats-ahead-war-ukraine)\n
            - […substack.com/…/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukra…](https://mearsheimer.substack.com/p/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukraine)\n
            - [rusi.org/…/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challeng…](https://www.rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challenges-and-innovations)\n
            \n
            Russia will win this war, and the only thing the west has achieved was to help destroy Ukraine by sabotaging negotiations in 2022.
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            Russian economy is growing while the west is going into a recession. [Russian factory activity grows at fastest pace in over six years](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-factory-activity-grows-fastest-pace-over-six-years-sept-pmi-2023-10-02/), meanwhile [while US manufacturing activity shrinks the most in three years.](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-07-03/us-manufacturing-activity-shrinks-by-most-in-three-years). UK now [can’t even make steel from raw materials.](https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/jan/18/tata-steel-to-shut-down-port-talbot-blast-furnaces-3000-jobs-at-risk)\n
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            Yes, people still bleat about a weaker Russia. 🤡
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            The fact that the west was deeply involved in the coup is well documented even in western media\n
            \n
            - [quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukr…](https://www.quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukraines-2014-revolution-was-due-to-a-CIA-coup) ([archive.ph/BAxYc](https://archive.ph/BAxYc))\n
            - [consortiumnews.com/…/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-i…](https://consortiumnews.com/2022/12/29/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-in-kiev/)\n
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            The foundations of my beliefs are that the west saw itself as the winner of the cold war after USSR dissolved, and decided to renege on all the promises that were made in the 90s. This created increasing tensions with Russia, and eventually led to the war we’re seeing play out in Ukraine. This is a proxy war between NATO and Russia, and it’s following the script that [was outlined by RAND](https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR3063.html).\n
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            The west made a huge miscalculation thinking that it could defeat Russia militarily and economically, and now the whole thing is starting to backfire. NATO is finding that it lacks the industrial base to sustain the conflict. Russia managed to reroute its trade away from the west, which caused immeasurable economic damage to Europe. The world outside the G7 has been increasingly aligning towards Russia and China and away from the west. This proxy war is heralding the end of the unipolar moment that US enjoyed and ushering in multipolarity.\n
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            > I have been using Google for long enough to know that it often shows us what we want to see, not that which is most likely to be correct. :)\n
            \n
            Have you considered that this might be why you still think that Ukraine is winning despite all the evidence to the contrary?\n
            \n
            > Regarding Russian economic data you seem to be flaunting, Russia has made it hard for outside sources to verify any of it.\n
            \n
            Every mainstream western outlet, including the IMF, agrees that Russian economy is growing. No serious economists dispute this.\n
            \n
            > You seem to derive a lot of your opinions from mearsheimer.substack.com source but the sources the author uses to prove your points often come from rt.com which is like, the worst source for this discussion.\n
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            Mearsheimer is just one example, and he is a preeminent political scientist in the US. The reality is that there is propaganda in the west just like there is in Russia, and western media often omits covering things that RT covers. Simply dismissing information based on the source is frankly absurd.\n
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            Incidentally, Mearsheimer gave an entire lecture back in 2014 predicting the events in Ukraine that are currently unfolding, seems to me that he might know what he’s talking about [www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4)\n
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            > I will, however, refrain from posting on lemmy.ml in the future, because I can see that you are a mod of several communities on this instance and your overall conduct in this post has been rather childish and disrespectful. I feel like mods should hold themselves to a higher standard.\n
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            Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
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          +body: "After two years, it’s pretty clear that the west is not capable of doing anything of the sort. All the west managed to achieve was to ensure that hundreds of thousands of people died, and that Ukraine lost large parts of its territory in the process. We now have admissions from Ukrainian negotiators that a peace deal was close to being reached last March before the west sabotaged it."
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            The actual truth is that it’s NATO that’s been constantly expanding towards Russia. It’s also NATO that’s been invading and destroying countries since the end of USSR. Syria, Libya, and Yugoslavia being some prominent examples.\n
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            Meanwhile, Russia tried to resolve this situation diplomatically since 2008 with Minsk agreements that western leaders now openly admit were a delaying tactic by the west.\n
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            Finally, section IX of Ukraine’s 1990 Declaration of State Sovereignty states the following:\n
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            [The Ukrainian SSR solemnly declares its intention of becoming a permanently neutral state that does not participate in military blocs and adheres to three nuclear free principles: to accept, to produce and to purchase no nuclear weapons.](https://web.archive.org/web/20130615031823/https://static.rada.gov.ua/site/postanova_eng/Declaration_of_State_Sovereignty_of_Ukraine_rev1.htm)\n
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            The whole legal basis for the existence of state of Ukraine is predicated on Ukraine staying neutral and not joining military blocs. Ukraine broke the very basis of this agreement when it tried to join NATO.\n
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            Now, thanks to western “help”, Ukraine will lose far more territory than it would have if the deal was done last year, and it may even cease to exist as a state. I can’t wait for you to explain how this actually helps people of Ukraine.
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          +body: "NATO is an aggressive alliance that has invaded and destroyed numerous countries. The fact that you keep pretending that it’s a defensive alliance just shows how utterly dishonest you are."
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            > False equivalence.\n
            \n
            It’s not.\n
            \n
            > Because Russia attacked them.\n
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            No, Ukraine has been engaged in atrocities in Donbas since 2014 as even western media reported at the time.\n
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            > It is in fact the opposite. No neutral country stays that way for long when Russia wants it’s territory.\n
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            I see you have problems with reading comprehension.\n
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            > If the West had not helped, there would be no Ukraine either. We would be condemning them to a decade of guerilla warfare and oppression. Emboldened by his victory, Putin would look further west.\n
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            If the west didn’t run a coup to overthrow a democratically elected government then there would’ve been no troubles in Ukraine. Period.\n
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            > Ukrainians now fight Russia, both sides are getting exhausted and it all depends on what help Ukraine gets. Your magical peace treaty would just mean Russia trying this again in 5 years or less.\n
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            That’s complete and utter nonsense, and even western media now admits this.\n
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            > You could have used the same arguments to make peace with the Nazis in 1941 and the world would only be worse for it.\n
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            Now that’s what actual false equivalence looks like.
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            > Russian propaganda talking point.\n
            \n
            Ah yes, Russian propaganda point as reported by CNN back in 2014 [twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296](https://twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296)\n
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            There’s even an hour long documentary from France on this [www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs)\n
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            Pretending this just didn’t happen is the height of intellectual dishonesty.\n
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            > Euromaidan was not a coup.\n
            \n
            Yes, it was and there’s overwhelming evidence for it.\n
            \n
            > Cite sources for the first point and military strategy analysts for the second.\n
            \n
            Are you just incapable of using google, I guess that would explain why you believe in nonsense. Here you go. First of all Russian economy is now rapidly growing while the west is going into a recession. This is not a country that’s showing any signs of being exhausted:\n
            \n
            - [newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-op…](https://www.newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-opinion-1861645)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-rosstat-2023-12-13/)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russian-factory-activity-expands-fa…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russian-factory-activity-expands-fastest-pace-seven-years-dec-pmi-2023-12-29/)\n
            \n
            and here’s some recent mainstream media reporting on the state of the war for you to chew on\n
            \n
            - [www.nytimes.com/2024/…/ukraine-russia-war.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/13/world/europe/ukraine-russia-war.html)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defen…](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defence-minister-says-2024-01-10/)\n
            - [lepoint.fr/…/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d…](https://www.lepoint.fr/monde/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d-une-debacle-05-01-2024-2549049_24.php)\n
            - [lemonde.fr/…/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-ex…](https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2023/09/27/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-express-discontent-i-repeatedly-told-them-nato-manuals-didn-t-apply_6140349_4.html)\n
            - [spiegel.de/…/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-…](https://www.spiegel.de/politik/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-deutschen-pannen-panzern-a-cd9421ae-4a96-4d4f-983a-6205a063ae15)\n
            - [archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73](https://archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73)\n
            - [telegraph.co.uk/…/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-…](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/12/27/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-tide-war-ukraine/)\n
            - [www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/…/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/ukraine-war-victory-hopes-dim-intl/index.html)\n
            - [cbc.ca/…/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232](https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232)\n
            \n
            and here’s some analysis from military strategists for you\n
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            - [www.russiamatters.org/…/whats-ahead-war-ukraine](https://www.russiamatters.org/analysis/whats-ahead-war-ukraine)\n
            - […substack.com/…/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukra…](https://mearsheimer.substack.com/p/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukraine)\n
            - [rusi.org/…/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challeng…](https://www.rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challenges-and-innovations)\n
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            Russia will win this war, and the only thing the west has achieved was to help destroy Ukraine by sabotaging negotiations in 2022.
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          +body: "Share a source for NATO invading Yugoslavia, Libya, Syria, and Afghanistan, is that what you’re asking there little buddy?"
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            Russian economy is growing while the west is going into a recession. [Russian factory activity grows at fastest pace in over six years](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-factory-activity-grows-fastest-pace-over-six-years-sept-pmi-2023-10-02/), meanwhile [while US manufacturing activity shrinks the most in three years.](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-07-03/us-manufacturing-activity-shrinks-by-most-in-three-years). UK now [can’t even make steel from raw materials.](https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/jan/18/tata-steel-to-shut-down-port-talbot-blast-furnaces-3000-jobs-at-risk)\n
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            Yes, people still bleat about a weaker Russia. 🤡
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            The fact that the west was deeply involved in the coup is well documented even in western media\n
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            - [quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukr…](https://www.quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukraines-2014-revolution-was-due-to-a-CIA-coup) ([archive.ph/BAxYc](https://archive.ph/BAxYc))\n
            - [consortiumnews.com/…/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-i…](https://consortiumnews.com/2022/12/29/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-in-kiev/)\n
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            The foundations of my beliefs are that the west saw itself as the winner of the cold war after USSR dissolved, and decided to renege on all the promises that were made in the 90s. This created increasing tensions with Russia, and eventually led to the war we’re seeing play out in Ukraine. This is a proxy war between NATO and Russia, and it’s following the script that [was outlined by RAND](https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR3063.html).\n
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            The west made a huge miscalculation thinking that it could defeat Russia militarily and economically, and now the whole thing is starting to backfire. NATO is finding that it lacks the industrial base to sustain the conflict. Russia managed to reroute its trade away from the west, which caused immeasurable economic damage to Europe. The world outside the G7 has been increasingly aligning towards Russia and China and away from the west. This proxy war is heralding the end of the unipolar moment that US enjoyed and ushering in multipolarity.\n
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            > I have been using Google for long enough to know that it often shows us what we want to see, not that which is most likely to be correct. :)\n
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            Have you considered that this might be why you still think that Ukraine is winning despite all the evidence to the contrary?\n
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            > Regarding Russian economic data you seem to be flaunting, Russia has made it hard for outside sources to verify any of it.\n
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            Every mainstream western outlet, including the IMF, agrees that Russian economy is growing. No serious economists dispute this.\n
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            > You seem to derive a lot of your opinions from mearsheimer.substack.com source but the sources the author uses to prove your points often come from rt.com which is like, the worst source for this discussion.\n
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            Mearsheimer is just one example, and he is a preeminent political scientist in the US. The reality is that there is propaganda in the west just like there is in Russia, and western media often omits covering things that RT covers. Simply dismissing information based on the source is frankly absurd.\n
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            > I will, however, refrain from posting on lemmy.ml in the future, because I can see that you are a mod of several communities on this instance and your overall conduct in this post has been rather childish and disrespectful. I feel like mods should hold themselves to a higher standard.\n
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            The actual truth is that it’s NATO that’s been constantly expanding towards Russia. It’s also NATO that’s been invading and destroying countries since the end of USSR. Syria, Libya, and Yugoslavia being some prominent examples.\n
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            Meanwhile, Russia tried to resolve this situation diplomatically since 2008 with Minsk agreements that western leaders now openly admit were a delaying tactic by the west.\n
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            Finally, section IX of Ukraine’s 1990 Declaration of State Sovereignty states the following:\n
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            [The Ukrainian SSR solemnly declares its intention of becoming a permanently neutral state that does not participate in military blocs and adheres to three nuclear free principles: to accept, to produce and to purchase no nuclear weapons.](https://web.archive.org/web/20130615031823/https://static.rada.gov.ua/site/postanova_eng/Declaration_of_State_Sovereignty_of_Ukraine_rev1.htm)\n
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            The whole legal basis for the existence of state of Ukraine is predicated on Ukraine staying neutral and not joining military blocs. Ukraine broke the very basis of this agreement when it tried to join NATO.\n
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            Now, thanks to western “help”, Ukraine will lose far more territory than it would have if the deal was done last year, and it may even cease to exist as a state. I can’t wait for you to explain how this actually helps people of Ukraine.
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          +body: "NATO is an aggressive alliance that has invaded and destroyed numerous countries. The fact that you keep pretending that it’s a defensive alliance just shows how utterly dishonest you are."
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            > False equivalence.\n
            \n
            It’s not.\n
            \n
            > Because Russia attacked them.\n
            \n
            No, Ukraine has been engaged in atrocities in Donbas since 2014 as even western media reported at the time.\n
            \n
            > It is in fact the opposite. No neutral country stays that way for long when Russia wants it’s territory.\n
            \n
            I see you have problems with reading comprehension.\n
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            > If the West had not helped, there would be no Ukraine either. We would be condemning them to a decade of guerilla warfare and oppression. Emboldened by his victory, Putin would look further west.\n
            \n
            If the west didn’t run a coup to overthrow a democratically elected government then there would’ve been no troubles in Ukraine. Period.\n
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            > Ukrainians now fight Russia, both sides are getting exhausted and it all depends on what help Ukraine gets. Your magical peace treaty would just mean Russia trying this again in 5 years or less.\n
            \n
            That’s complete and utter nonsense, and even western media now admits this.\n
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            > You could have used the same arguments to make peace with the Nazis in 1941 and the world would only be worse for it.\n
            \n
            Now that’s what actual false equivalence looks like.
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            > Russian propaganda talking point.\n
            \n
            Ah yes, Russian propaganda point as reported by CNN back in 2014 [twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296](https://twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296)\n
            \n
            There’s even an hour long documentary from France on this [www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs)\n
            \n
            Pretending this just didn’t happen is the height of intellectual dishonesty.\n
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            > Euromaidan was not a coup.\n
            \n
            Yes, it was and there’s overwhelming evidence for it.\n
            \n
            > Cite sources for the first point and military strategy analysts for the second.\n
            \n
            Are you just incapable of using google, I guess that would explain why you believe in nonsense. Here you go. First of all Russian economy is now rapidly growing while the west is going into a recession. This is not a country that’s showing any signs of being exhausted:\n
            \n
            - [newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-op…](https://www.newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-opinion-1861645)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-rosstat-2023-12-13/)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russian-factory-activity-expands-fa…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russian-factory-activity-expands-fastest-pace-seven-years-dec-pmi-2023-12-29/)\n
            \n
            and here’s some recent mainstream media reporting on the state of the war for you to chew on\n
            \n
            - [www.nytimes.com/2024/…/ukraine-russia-war.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/13/world/europe/ukraine-russia-war.html)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defen…](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defence-minister-says-2024-01-10/)\n
            - [lepoint.fr/…/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d…](https://www.lepoint.fr/monde/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d-une-debacle-05-01-2024-2549049_24.php)\n
            - [lemonde.fr/…/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-ex…](https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2023/09/27/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-express-discontent-i-repeatedly-told-them-nato-manuals-didn-t-apply_6140349_4.html)\n
            - [spiegel.de/…/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-…](https://www.spiegel.de/politik/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-deutschen-pannen-panzern-a-cd9421ae-4a96-4d4f-983a-6205a063ae15)\n
            - [archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73](https://archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73)\n
            - [telegraph.co.uk/…/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-…](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/12/27/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-tide-war-ukraine/)\n
            - [www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/…/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/ukraine-war-victory-hopes-dim-intl/index.html)\n
            - [cbc.ca/…/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232](https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232)\n
            \n
            and here’s some analysis from military strategists for you\n
            \n
            - [www.russiamatters.org/…/whats-ahead-war-ukraine](https://www.russiamatters.org/analysis/whats-ahead-war-ukraine)\n
            - […substack.com/…/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukra…](https://mearsheimer.substack.com/p/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukraine)\n
            - [rusi.org/…/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challeng…](https://www.rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challenges-and-innovations)\n
            \n
            Russia will win this war, and the only thing the west has achieved was to help destroy Ukraine by sabotaging negotiations in 2022.
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            Russian economy is growing while the west is going into a recession. [Russian factory activity grows at fastest pace in over six years](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-factory-activity-grows-fastest-pace-over-six-years-sept-pmi-2023-10-02/), meanwhile [while US manufacturing activity shrinks the most in three years.](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-07-03/us-manufacturing-activity-shrinks-by-most-in-three-years). UK now [can’t even make steel from raw materials.](https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/jan/18/tata-steel-to-shut-down-port-talbot-blast-furnaces-3000-jobs-at-risk)\n
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            Yes, people still bleat about a weaker Russia. 🤡
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            The fact that the west was deeply involved in the coup is well documented even in western media\n
            \n
            - [quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukr…](https://www.quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukraines-2014-revolution-was-due-to-a-CIA-coup) ([archive.ph/BAxYc](https://archive.ph/BAxYc))\n
            - [consortiumnews.com/…/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-i…](https://consortiumnews.com/2022/12/29/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-in-kiev/)\n
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            The foundations of my beliefs are that the west saw itself as the winner of the cold war after USSR dissolved, and decided to renege on all the promises that were made in the 90s. This created increasing tensions with Russia, and eventually led to the war we’re seeing play out in Ukraine. This is a proxy war between NATO and Russia, and it’s following the script that [was outlined by RAND](https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR3063.html).\n
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            The west made a huge miscalculation thinking that it could defeat Russia militarily and economically, and now the whole thing is starting to backfire. NATO is finding that it lacks the industrial base to sustain the conflict. Russia managed to reroute its trade away from the west, which caused immeasurable economic damage to Europe. The world outside the G7 has been increasingly aligning towards Russia and China and away from the west. This proxy war is heralding the end of the unipolar moment that US enjoyed and ushering in multipolarity.\n
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            > I have been using Google for long enough to know that it often shows us what we want to see, not that which is most likely to be correct. :)\n
            \n
            Have you considered that this might be why you still think that Ukraine is winning despite all the evidence to the contrary?\n
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            > Regarding Russian economic data you seem to be flaunting, Russia has made it hard for outside sources to verify any of it.\n
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            Every mainstream western outlet, including the IMF, agrees that Russian economy is growing. No serious economists dispute this.\n
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            > You seem to derive a lot of your opinions from mearsheimer.substack.com source but the sources the author uses to prove your points often come from rt.com which is like, the worst source for this discussion.\n
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            Mearsheimer is just one example, and he is a preeminent political scientist in the US. The reality is that there is propaganda in the west just like there is in Russia, and western media often omits covering things that RT covers. Simply dismissing information based on the source is frankly absurd.\n
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            Incidentally, Mearsheimer gave an entire lecture back in 2014 predicting the events in Ukraine that are currently unfolding, seems to me that he might know what he’s talking about [www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4)\n
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            > I will, however, refrain from posting on lemmy.ml in the future, because I can see that you are a mod of several communities on this instance and your overall conduct in this post has been rather childish and disrespectful. I feel like mods should hold themselves to a higher standard.\n
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            Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
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            The actual truth is that it’s NATO that’s been constantly expanding towards Russia. It’s also NATO that’s been invading and destroying countries since the end of USSR. Syria, Libya, and Yugoslavia being some prominent examples.\n
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            > False equivalence.\n
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            It’s not.\n
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            > Because Russia attacked them.\n
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            No, Ukraine has been engaged in atrocities in Donbas since 2014 as even western media reported at the time.\n
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            I see you have problems with reading comprehension.\n
            \n
            > If the West had not helped, there would be no Ukraine either. We would be condemning them to a decade of guerilla warfare and oppression. Emboldened by his victory, Putin would look further west.\n
            \n
            If the west didn’t run a coup to overthrow a democratically elected government then there would’ve been no troubles in Ukraine. Period.\n
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            > Ukrainians now fight Russia, both sides are getting exhausted and it all depends on what help Ukraine gets. Your magical peace treaty would just mean Russia trying this again in 5 years or less.\n
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            That’s complete and utter nonsense, and even western media now admits this.\n
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            > You could have used the same arguments to make peace with the Nazis in 1941 and the world would only be worse for it.\n
            \n
            Now that’s what actual false equivalence looks like.
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            > Russian propaganda talking point.\n
            \n
            Ah yes, Russian propaganda point as reported by CNN back in 2014 [twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296](https://twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296)\n
            \n
            There’s even an hour long documentary from France on this [www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs)\n
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            Pretending this just didn’t happen is the height of intellectual dishonesty.\n
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            > Euromaidan was not a coup.\n
            \n
            Yes, it was and there’s overwhelming evidence for it.\n
            \n
            > Cite sources for the first point and military strategy analysts for the second.\n
            \n
            Are you just incapable of using google, I guess that would explain why you believe in nonsense. Here you go. First of all Russian economy is now rapidly growing while the west is going into a recession. This is not a country that’s showing any signs of being exhausted:\n
            \n
            - [newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-op…](https://www.newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-opinion-1861645)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-rosstat-2023-12-13/)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russian-factory-activity-expands-fa…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russian-factory-activity-expands-fastest-pace-seven-years-dec-pmi-2023-12-29/)\n
            \n
            and here’s some recent mainstream media reporting on the state of the war for you to chew on\n
            \n
            - [www.nytimes.com/2024/…/ukraine-russia-war.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/13/world/europe/ukraine-russia-war.html)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defen…](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defence-minister-says-2024-01-10/)\n
            - [lepoint.fr/…/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d…](https://www.lepoint.fr/monde/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d-une-debacle-05-01-2024-2549049_24.php)\n
            - [lemonde.fr/…/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-ex…](https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2023/09/27/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-express-discontent-i-repeatedly-told-them-nato-manuals-didn-t-apply_6140349_4.html)\n
            - [spiegel.de/…/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-…](https://www.spiegel.de/politik/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-deutschen-pannen-panzern-a-cd9421ae-4a96-4d4f-983a-6205a063ae15)\n
            - [archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73](https://archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73)\n
            - [telegraph.co.uk/…/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-…](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/12/27/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-tide-war-ukraine/)\n
            - [www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/…/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/ukraine-war-victory-hopes-dim-intl/index.html)\n
            - [cbc.ca/…/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232](https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232)\n
            \n
            and here’s some analysis from military strategists for you\n
            \n
            - [www.russiamatters.org/…/whats-ahead-war-ukraine](https://www.russiamatters.org/analysis/whats-ahead-war-ukraine)\n
            - […substack.com/…/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukra…](https://mearsheimer.substack.com/p/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukraine)\n
            - [rusi.org/…/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challeng…](https://www.rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challenges-and-innovations)\n
            \n
            Russia will win this war, and the only thing the west has achieved was to help destroy Ukraine by sabotaging negotiations in 2022.
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            Russian economy is growing while the west is going into a recession. [Russian factory activity grows at fastest pace in over six years](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-factory-activity-grows-fastest-pace-over-six-years-sept-pmi-2023-10-02/), meanwhile [while US manufacturing activity shrinks the most in three years.](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-07-03/us-manufacturing-activity-shrinks-by-most-in-three-years). UK now [can’t even make steel from raw materials.](https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/jan/18/tata-steel-to-shut-down-port-talbot-blast-furnaces-3000-jobs-at-risk)\n
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            The fact that the west was deeply involved in the coup is well documented even in western media\n
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            - [quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukr…](https://www.quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukraines-2014-revolution-was-due-to-a-CIA-coup) ([archive.ph/BAxYc](https://archive.ph/BAxYc))\n
            - [consortiumnews.com/…/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-i…](https://consortiumnews.com/2022/12/29/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-in-kiev/)\n
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            The foundations of my beliefs are that the west saw itself as the winner of the cold war after USSR dissolved, and decided to renege on all the promises that were made in the 90s. This created increasing tensions with Russia, and eventually led to the war we’re seeing play out in Ukraine. This is a proxy war between NATO and Russia, and it’s following the script that [was outlined by RAND](https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR3063.html).\n
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            The west made a huge miscalculation thinking that it could defeat Russia militarily and economically, and now the whole thing is starting to backfire. NATO is finding that it lacks the industrial base to sustain the conflict. Russia managed to reroute its trade away from the west, which caused immeasurable economic damage to Europe. The world outside the G7 has been increasingly aligning towards Russia and China and away from the west. This proxy war is heralding the end of the unipolar moment that US enjoyed and ushering in multipolarity.\n
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            > I have been using Google for long enough to know that it often shows us what we want to see, not that which is most likely to be correct. :)\n
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            Have you considered that this might be why you still think that Ukraine is winning despite all the evidence to the contrary?\n
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            > Regarding Russian economic data you seem to be flaunting, Russia has made it hard for outside sources to verify any of it.\n
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            Every mainstream western outlet, including the IMF, agrees that Russian economy is growing. No serious economists dispute this.\n
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            > You seem to derive a lot of your opinions from mearsheimer.substack.com source but the sources the author uses to prove your points often come from rt.com which is like, the worst source for this discussion.\n
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            Mearsheimer is just one example, and he is a preeminent political scientist in the US. The reality is that there is propaganda in the west just like there is in Russia, and western media often omits covering things that RT covers. Simply dismissing information based on the source is frankly absurd.\n
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            Incidentally, Mearsheimer gave an entire lecture back in 2014 predicting the events in Ukraine that are currently unfolding, seems to me that he might know what he’s talking about [www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4)\n
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            > I will, however, refrain from posting on lemmy.ml in the future, because I can see that you are a mod of several communities on this instance and your overall conduct in this post has been rather childish and disrespectful. I feel like mods should hold themselves to a higher standard.\n
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            Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
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          +body: "After two years, it’s pretty clear that the west is not capable of doing anything of the sort. All the west managed to achieve was to ensure that hundreds of thousands of people died, and that Ukraine lost large parts of its territory in the process. We now have admissions from Ukrainian negotiators that a peace deal was close to being reached last March before the west sabotaged it."
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            The actual truth is that it’s NATO that’s been constantly expanding towards Russia. It’s also NATO that’s been invading and destroying countries since the end of USSR. Syria, Libya, and Yugoslavia being some prominent examples.\n
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            Meanwhile, Russia tried to resolve this situation diplomatically since 2008 with Minsk agreements that western leaders now openly admit were a delaying tactic by the west.\n
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            Finally, section IX of Ukraine’s 1990 Declaration of State Sovereignty states the following:\n
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            The whole legal basis for the existence of state of Ukraine is predicated on Ukraine staying neutral and not joining military blocs. Ukraine broke the very basis of this agreement when it tried to join NATO.\n
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            Now, thanks to western “help”, Ukraine will lose far more territory than it would have if the deal was done last year, and it may even cease to exist as a state. I can’t wait for you to explain how this actually helps people of Ukraine.
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          +body: "NATO is an aggressive alliance that has invaded and destroyed numerous countries. The fact that you keep pretending that it’s a defensive alliance just shows how utterly dishonest you are."
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            > False equivalence.\n
            \n
            It’s not.\n
            \n
            > Because Russia attacked them.\n
            \n
            No, Ukraine has been engaged in atrocities in Donbas since 2014 as even western media reported at the time.\n
            \n
            > It is in fact the opposite. No neutral country stays that way for long when Russia wants it’s territory.\n
            \n
            I see you have problems with reading comprehension.\n
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            > If the West had not helped, there would be no Ukraine either. We would be condemning them to a decade of guerilla warfare and oppression. Emboldened by his victory, Putin would look further west.\n
            \n
            If the west didn’t run a coup to overthrow a democratically elected government then there would’ve been no troubles in Ukraine. Period.\n
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            > Ukrainians now fight Russia, both sides are getting exhausted and it all depends on what help Ukraine gets. Your magical peace treaty would just mean Russia trying this again in 5 years or less.\n
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            That’s complete and utter nonsense, and even western media now admits this.\n
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            > You could have used the same arguments to make peace with the Nazis in 1941 and the world would only be worse for it.\n
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            Now that’s what actual false equivalence looks like.
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            > Russian propaganda talking point.\n
            \n
            Ah yes, Russian propaganda point as reported by CNN back in 2014 [twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296](https://twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296)\n
            \n
            There’s even an hour long documentary from France on this [www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs)\n
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            Pretending this just didn’t happen is the height of intellectual dishonesty.\n
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            > Euromaidan was not a coup.\n
            \n
            Yes, it was and there’s overwhelming evidence for it.\n
            \n
            > Cite sources for the first point and military strategy analysts for the second.\n
            \n
            Are you just incapable of using google, I guess that would explain why you believe in nonsense. Here you go. First of all Russian economy is now rapidly growing while the west is going into a recession. This is not a country that’s showing any signs of being exhausted:\n
            \n
            - [newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-op…](https://www.newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-opinion-1861645)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-rosstat-2023-12-13/)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russian-factory-activity-expands-fa…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russian-factory-activity-expands-fastest-pace-seven-years-dec-pmi-2023-12-29/)\n
            \n
            and here’s some recent mainstream media reporting on the state of the war for you to chew on\n
            \n
            - [www.nytimes.com/2024/…/ukraine-russia-war.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/13/world/europe/ukraine-russia-war.html)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defen…](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defence-minister-says-2024-01-10/)\n
            - [lepoint.fr/…/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d…](https://www.lepoint.fr/monde/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d-une-debacle-05-01-2024-2549049_24.php)\n
            - [lemonde.fr/…/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-ex…](https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2023/09/27/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-express-discontent-i-repeatedly-told-them-nato-manuals-didn-t-apply_6140349_4.html)\n
            - [spiegel.de/…/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-…](https://www.spiegel.de/politik/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-deutschen-pannen-panzern-a-cd9421ae-4a96-4d4f-983a-6205a063ae15)\n
            - [archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73](https://archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73)\n
            - [telegraph.co.uk/…/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-…](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/12/27/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-tide-war-ukraine/)\n
            - [www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/…/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/ukraine-war-victory-hopes-dim-intl/index.html)\n
            - [cbc.ca/…/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232](https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232)\n
            \n
            and here’s some analysis from military strategists for you\n
            \n
            - [www.russiamatters.org/…/whats-ahead-war-ukraine](https://www.russiamatters.org/analysis/whats-ahead-war-ukraine)\n
            - […substack.com/…/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukra…](https://mearsheimer.substack.com/p/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukraine)\n
            - [rusi.org/…/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challeng…](https://www.rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challenges-and-innovations)\n
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            Russia will win this war, and the only thing the west has achieved was to help destroy Ukraine by sabotaging negotiations in 2022.
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          +body: "Share a source for NATO invading Yugoslavia, Libya, Syria, and Afghanistan, is that what you’re asking there little buddy?"
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            Russian economy is growing while the west is going into a recession. [Russian factory activity grows at fastest pace in over six years](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-factory-activity-grows-fastest-pace-over-six-years-sept-pmi-2023-10-02/), meanwhile [while US manufacturing activity shrinks the most in three years.](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-07-03/us-manufacturing-activity-shrinks-by-most-in-three-years). UK now [can’t even make steel from raw materials.](https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/jan/18/tata-steel-to-shut-down-port-talbot-blast-furnaces-3000-jobs-at-risk)\n
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          +body: "Here’s an idea go sign up as a volunteer in Ukraine and fight yourself instead of cheering on for other people to die for you, you disgusting sack of shit."
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            The fact that the west was deeply involved in the coup is well documented even in western media\n
            \n
            - [quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukr…](https://www.quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukraines-2014-revolution-was-due-to-a-CIA-coup) ([archive.ph/BAxYc](https://archive.ph/BAxYc))\n
            - [consortiumnews.com/…/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-i…](https://consortiumnews.com/2022/12/29/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-in-kiev/)\n
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            The foundations of my beliefs are that the west saw itself as the winner of the cold war after USSR dissolved, and decided to renege on all the promises that were made in the 90s. This created increasing tensions with Russia, and eventually led to the war we’re seeing play out in Ukraine. This is a proxy war between NATO and Russia, and it’s following the script that [was outlined by RAND](https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR3063.html).\n
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            The west made a huge miscalculation thinking that it could defeat Russia militarily and economically, and now the whole thing is starting to backfire. NATO is finding that it lacks the industrial base to sustain the conflict. Russia managed to reroute its trade away from the west, which caused immeasurable economic damage to Europe. The world outside the G7 has been increasingly aligning towards Russia and China and away from the west. This proxy war is heralding the end of the unipolar moment that US enjoyed and ushering in multipolarity.\n
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            > I have been using Google for long enough to know that it often shows us what we want to see, not that which is most likely to be correct. :)\n
            \n
            Have you considered that this might be why you still think that Ukraine is winning despite all the evidence to the contrary?\n
            \n
            > Regarding Russian economic data you seem to be flaunting, Russia has made it hard for outside sources to verify any of it.\n
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            Every mainstream western outlet, including the IMF, agrees that Russian economy is growing. No serious economists dispute this.\n
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            > You seem to derive a lot of your opinions from mearsheimer.substack.com source but the sources the author uses to prove your points often come from rt.com which is like, the worst source for this discussion.\n
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            Mearsheimer is just one example, and he is a preeminent political scientist in the US. The reality is that there is propaganda in the west just like there is in Russia, and western media often omits covering things that RT covers. Simply dismissing information based on the source is frankly absurd.\n
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            Incidentally, Mearsheimer gave an entire lecture back in 2014 predicting the events in Ukraine that are currently unfolding, seems to me that he might know what he’s talking about [www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4)\n
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            > I will, however, refrain from posting on lemmy.ml in the future, because I can see that you are a mod of several communities on this instance and your overall conduct in this post has been rather childish and disrespectful. I feel like mods should hold themselves to a higher standard.\n
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            Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
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          +body: "After two years, it’s pretty clear that the west is not capable of doing anything of the sort. All the west managed to achieve was to ensure that hundreds of thousands of people died, and that Ukraine lost large parts of its territory in the process. We now have admissions from Ukrainian negotiators that a peace deal was close to being reached last March before the west sabotaged it."
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            The actual truth is that it’s NATO that’s been constantly expanding towards Russia. It’s also NATO that’s been invading and destroying countries since the end of USSR. Syria, Libya, and Yugoslavia being some prominent examples.\n
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            Meanwhile, Russia tried to resolve this situation diplomatically since 2008 with Minsk agreements that western leaders now openly admit were a delaying tactic by the west.\n
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            Finally, section IX of Ukraine’s 1990 Declaration of State Sovereignty states the following:\n
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            [The Ukrainian SSR solemnly declares its intention of becoming a permanently neutral state that does not participate in military blocs and adheres to three nuclear free principles: to accept, to produce and to purchase no nuclear weapons.](https://web.archive.org/web/20130615031823/https://static.rada.gov.ua/site/postanova_eng/Declaration_of_State_Sovereignty_of_Ukraine_rev1.htm)\n
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            The whole legal basis for the existence of state of Ukraine is predicated on Ukraine staying neutral and not joining military blocs. Ukraine broke the very basis of this agreement when it tried to join NATO.\n
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            Now, thanks to western “help”, Ukraine will lose far more territory than it would have if the deal was done last year, and it may even cease to exist as a state. I can’t wait for you to explain how this actually helps people of Ukraine.
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          +body: "NATO is an aggressive alliance that has invaded and destroyed numerous countries. The fact that you keep pretending that it’s a defensive alliance just shows how utterly dishonest you are."
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            > False equivalence.\n
            \n
            It’s not.\n
            \n
            > Because Russia attacked them.\n
            \n
            No, Ukraine has been engaged in atrocities in Donbas since 2014 as even western media reported at the time.\n
            \n
            > It is in fact the opposite. No neutral country stays that way for long when Russia wants it’s territory.\n
            \n
            I see you have problems with reading comprehension.\n
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            > If the West had not helped, there would be no Ukraine either. We would be condemning them to a decade of guerilla warfare and oppression. Emboldened by his victory, Putin would look further west.\n
            \n
            If the west didn’t run a coup to overthrow a democratically elected government then there would’ve been no troubles in Ukraine. Period.\n
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            > Ukrainians now fight Russia, both sides are getting exhausted and it all depends on what help Ukraine gets. Your magical peace treaty would just mean Russia trying this again in 5 years or less.\n
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            That’s complete and utter nonsense, and even western media now admits this.\n
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            > You could have used the same arguments to make peace with the Nazis in 1941 and the world would only be worse for it.\n
            \n
            Now that’s what actual false equivalence looks like.
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            > Russian propaganda talking point.\n
            \n
            Ah yes, Russian propaganda point as reported by CNN back in 2014 [twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296](https://twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296)\n
            \n
            There’s even an hour long documentary from France on this [www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs)\n
            \n
            Pretending this just didn’t happen is the height of intellectual dishonesty.\n
            \n
            > Euromaidan was not a coup.\n
            \n
            Yes, it was and there’s overwhelming evidence for it.\n
            \n
            > Cite sources for the first point and military strategy analysts for the second.\n
            \n
            Are you just incapable of using google, I guess that would explain why you believe in nonsense. Here you go. First of all Russian economy is now rapidly growing while the west is going into a recession. This is not a country that’s showing any signs of being exhausted:\n
            \n
            - [newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-op…](https://www.newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-opinion-1861645)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-rosstat-2023-12-13/)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russian-factory-activity-expands-fa…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russian-factory-activity-expands-fastest-pace-seven-years-dec-pmi-2023-12-29/)\n
            \n
            and here’s some recent mainstream media reporting on the state of the war for you to chew on\n
            \n
            - [www.nytimes.com/2024/…/ukraine-russia-war.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/13/world/europe/ukraine-russia-war.html)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defen…](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defence-minister-says-2024-01-10/)\n
            - [lepoint.fr/…/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d…](https://www.lepoint.fr/monde/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d-une-debacle-05-01-2024-2549049_24.php)\n
            - [lemonde.fr/…/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-ex…](https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2023/09/27/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-express-discontent-i-repeatedly-told-them-nato-manuals-didn-t-apply_6140349_4.html)\n
            - [spiegel.de/…/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-…](https://www.spiegel.de/politik/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-deutschen-pannen-panzern-a-cd9421ae-4a96-4d4f-983a-6205a063ae15)\n
            - [archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73](https://archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73)\n
            - [telegraph.co.uk/…/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-…](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/12/27/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-tide-war-ukraine/)\n
            - [www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/…/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/ukraine-war-victory-hopes-dim-intl/index.html)\n
            - [cbc.ca/…/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232](https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232)\n
            \n
            and here’s some analysis from military strategists for you\n
            \n
            - [www.russiamatters.org/…/whats-ahead-war-ukraine](https://www.russiamatters.org/analysis/whats-ahead-war-ukraine)\n
            - […substack.com/…/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukra…](https://mearsheimer.substack.com/p/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukraine)\n
            - [rusi.org/…/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challeng…](https://www.rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challenges-and-innovations)\n
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            Russia will win this war, and the only thing the west has achieved was to help destroy Ukraine by sabotaging negotiations in 2022.
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          +body: "Share a source for NATO invading Yugoslavia, Libya, Syria, and Afghanistan, is that what you’re asking there little buddy?"
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          +body: "No, I’m saying that anybody can type in words NATO and Yugoslavia or NATO and Libya into Google and see that you’re a liar."
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            Russian economy is growing while the west is going into a recession. [Russian factory activity grows at fastest pace in over six years](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-factory-activity-grows-fastest-pace-over-six-years-sept-pmi-2023-10-02/), meanwhile [while US manufacturing activity shrinks the most in three years.](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-07-03/us-manufacturing-activity-shrinks-by-most-in-three-years). UK now [can’t even make steel from raw materials.](https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/jan/18/tata-steel-to-shut-down-port-talbot-blast-furnaces-3000-jobs-at-risk)\n
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            Yes, people still bleat about a weaker Russia. 🤡
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          +body: "Here’s an idea go sign up as a volunteer in Ukraine and fight yourself instead of cheering on for other people to die for you, you disgusting sack of shit."
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            The fact that the west was deeply involved in the coup is well documented even in western media\n
            \n
            - [quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukr…](https://www.quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukraines-2014-revolution-was-due-to-a-CIA-coup) ([archive.ph/BAxYc](https://archive.ph/BAxYc))\n
            - [consortiumnews.com/…/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-i…](https://consortiumnews.com/2022/12/29/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-in-kiev/)\n
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            The foundations of my beliefs are that the west saw itself as the winner of the cold war after USSR dissolved, and decided to renege on all the promises that were made in the 90s. This created increasing tensions with Russia, and eventually led to the war we’re seeing play out in Ukraine. This is a proxy war between NATO and Russia, and it’s following the script that [was outlined by RAND](https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR3063.html).\n
            \n
            The west made a huge miscalculation thinking that it could defeat Russia militarily and economically, and now the whole thing is starting to backfire. NATO is finding that it lacks the industrial base to sustain the conflict. Russia managed to reroute its trade away from the west, which caused immeasurable economic damage to Europe. The world outside the G7 has been increasingly aligning towards Russia and China and away from the west. This proxy war is heralding the end of the unipolar moment that US enjoyed and ushering in multipolarity.\n
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            > I have been using Google for long enough to know that it often shows us what we want to see, not that which is most likely to be correct. :)\n
            \n
            Have you considered that this might be why you still think that Ukraine is winning despite all the evidence to the contrary?\n
            \n
            > Regarding Russian economic data you seem to be flaunting, Russia has made it hard for outside sources to verify any of it.\n
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            Every mainstream western outlet, including the IMF, agrees that Russian economy is growing. No serious economists dispute this.\n
            \n
            > You seem to derive a lot of your opinions from mearsheimer.substack.com source but the sources the author uses to prove your points often come from rt.com which is like, the worst source for this discussion.\n
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            Mearsheimer is just one example, and he is a preeminent political scientist in the US. The reality is that there is propaganda in the west just like there is in Russia, and western media often omits covering things that RT covers. Simply dismissing information based on the source is frankly absurd.\n
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            Incidentally, Mearsheimer gave an entire lecture back in 2014 predicting the events in Ukraine that are currently unfolding, seems to me that he might know what he’s talking about [www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4)\n
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            > I will, however, refrain from posting on lemmy.ml in the future, because I can see that you are a mod of several communities on this instance and your overall conduct in this post has been rather childish and disrespectful. I feel like mods should hold themselves to a higher standard.\n
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            The actual truth is that it’s NATO that’s been constantly expanding towards Russia. It’s also NATO that’s been invading and destroying countries since the end of USSR. Syria, Libya, and Yugoslavia being some prominent examples.\n
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            > False equivalence.\n
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            It’s not.\n
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            > Because Russia attacked them.\n
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            No, Ukraine has been engaged in atrocities in Donbas since 2014 as even western media reported at the time.\n
            \n
            > It is in fact the opposite. No neutral country stays that way for long when Russia wants it’s territory.\n
            \n
            I see you have problems with reading comprehension.\n
            \n
            > If the West had not helped, there would be no Ukraine either. We would be condemning them to a decade of guerilla warfare and oppression. Emboldened by his victory, Putin would look further west.\n
            \n
            If the west didn’t run a coup to overthrow a democratically elected government then there would’ve been no troubles in Ukraine. Period.\n
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            > Ukrainians now fight Russia, both sides are getting exhausted and it all depends on what help Ukraine gets. Your magical peace treaty would just mean Russia trying this again in 5 years or less.\n
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            That’s complete and utter nonsense, and even western media now admits this.\n
            \n
            > You could have used the same arguments to make peace with the Nazis in 1941 and the world would only be worse for it.\n
            \n
            Now that’s what actual false equivalence looks like.
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            > Russian propaganda talking point.\n
            \n
            Ah yes, Russian propaganda point as reported by CNN back in 2014 [twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296](https://twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296)\n
            \n
            There’s even an hour long documentary from France on this [www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs)\n
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            Pretending this just didn’t happen is the height of intellectual dishonesty.\n
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            > Euromaidan was not a coup.\n
            \n
            Yes, it was and there’s overwhelming evidence for it.\n
            \n
            > Cite sources for the first point and military strategy analysts for the second.\n
            \n
            Are you just incapable of using google, I guess that would explain why you believe in nonsense. Here you go. First of all Russian economy is now rapidly growing while the west is going into a recession. This is not a country that’s showing any signs of being exhausted:\n
            \n
            - [newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-op…](https://www.newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-opinion-1861645)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-rosstat-2023-12-13/)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russian-factory-activity-expands-fa…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russian-factory-activity-expands-fastest-pace-seven-years-dec-pmi-2023-12-29/)\n
            \n
            and here’s some recent mainstream media reporting on the state of the war for you to chew on\n
            \n
            - [www.nytimes.com/2024/…/ukraine-russia-war.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/13/world/europe/ukraine-russia-war.html)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defen…](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defence-minister-says-2024-01-10/)\n
            - [lepoint.fr/…/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d…](https://www.lepoint.fr/monde/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d-une-debacle-05-01-2024-2549049_24.php)\n
            - [lemonde.fr/…/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-ex…](https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2023/09/27/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-express-discontent-i-repeatedly-told-them-nato-manuals-didn-t-apply_6140349_4.html)\n
            - [spiegel.de/…/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-…](https://www.spiegel.de/politik/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-deutschen-pannen-panzern-a-cd9421ae-4a96-4d4f-983a-6205a063ae15)\n
            - [archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73](https://archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73)\n
            - [telegraph.co.uk/…/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-…](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/12/27/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-tide-war-ukraine/)\n
            - [www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/…/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/ukraine-war-victory-hopes-dim-intl/index.html)\n
            - [cbc.ca/…/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232](https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232)\n
            \n
            and here’s some analysis from military strategists for you\n
            \n
            - [www.russiamatters.org/…/whats-ahead-war-ukraine](https://www.russiamatters.org/analysis/whats-ahead-war-ukraine)\n
            - […substack.com/…/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukra…](https://mearsheimer.substack.com/p/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukraine)\n
            - [rusi.org/…/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challeng…](https://www.rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challenges-and-innovations)\n
            \n
            Russia will win this war, and the only thing the west has achieved was to help destroy Ukraine by sabotaging negotiations in 2022.
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            Russian economy is growing while the west is going into a recession. [Russian factory activity grows at fastest pace in over six years](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-factory-activity-grows-fastest-pace-over-six-years-sept-pmi-2023-10-02/), meanwhile [while US manufacturing activity shrinks the most in three years.](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-07-03/us-manufacturing-activity-shrinks-by-most-in-three-years). UK now [can’t even make steel from raw materials.](https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/jan/18/tata-steel-to-shut-down-port-talbot-blast-furnaces-3000-jobs-at-risk)\n
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            The fact that the west was deeply involved in the coup is well documented even in western media\n
            \n
            - [quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukr…](https://www.quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukraines-2014-revolution-was-due-to-a-CIA-coup) ([archive.ph/BAxYc](https://archive.ph/BAxYc))\n
            - [consortiumnews.com/…/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-i…](https://consortiumnews.com/2022/12/29/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-in-kiev/)\n
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            The foundations of my beliefs are that the west saw itself as the winner of the cold war after USSR dissolved, and decided to renege on all the promises that were made in the 90s. This created increasing tensions with Russia, and eventually led to the war we’re seeing play out in Ukraine. This is a proxy war between NATO and Russia, and it’s following the script that [was outlined by RAND](https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR3063.html).\n
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            The west made a huge miscalculation thinking that it could defeat Russia militarily and economically, and now the whole thing is starting to backfire. NATO is finding that it lacks the industrial base to sustain the conflict. Russia managed to reroute its trade away from the west, which caused immeasurable economic damage to Europe. The world outside the G7 has been increasingly aligning towards Russia and China and away from the west. This proxy war is heralding the end of the unipolar moment that US enjoyed and ushering in multipolarity.\n
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            > I have been using Google for long enough to know that it often shows us what we want to see, not that which is most likely to be correct. :)\n
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            Have you considered that this might be why you still think that Ukraine is winning despite all the evidence to the contrary?\n
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            > Regarding Russian economic data you seem to be flaunting, Russia has made it hard for outside sources to verify any of it.\n
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            Every mainstream western outlet, including the IMF, agrees that Russian economy is growing. No serious economists dispute this.\n
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            > You seem to derive a lot of your opinions from mearsheimer.substack.com source but the sources the author uses to prove your points often come from rt.com which is like, the worst source for this discussion.\n
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            Mearsheimer is just one example, and he is a preeminent political scientist in the US. The reality is that there is propaganda in the west just like there is in Russia, and western media often omits covering things that RT covers. Simply dismissing information based on the source is frankly absurd.\n
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            Incidentally, Mearsheimer gave an entire lecture back in 2014 predicting the events in Ukraine that are currently unfolding, seems to me that he might know what he’s talking about [www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4)\n
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            > I will, however, refrain from posting on lemmy.ml in the future, because I can see that you are a mod of several communities on this instance and your overall conduct in this post has been rather childish and disrespectful. I feel like mods should hold themselves to a higher standard.\n
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            Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
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          +body: "After two years, it’s pretty clear that the west is not capable of doing anything of the sort. All the west managed to achieve was to ensure that hundreds of thousands of people died, and that Ukraine lost large parts of its territory in the process. We now have admissions from Ukrainian negotiators that a peace deal was close to being reached last March before the west sabotaged it."
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            The actual truth is that it’s NATO that’s been constantly expanding towards Russia. It’s also NATO that’s been invading and destroying countries since the end of USSR. Syria, Libya, and Yugoslavia being some prominent examples.\n
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            Meanwhile, Russia tried to resolve this situation diplomatically since 2008 with Minsk agreements that western leaders now openly admit were a delaying tactic by the west.\n
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            Finally, section IX of Ukraine’s 1990 Declaration of State Sovereignty states the following:\n
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            The whole legal basis for the existence of state of Ukraine is predicated on Ukraine staying neutral and not joining military blocs. Ukraine broke the very basis of this agreement when it tried to join NATO.\n
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            Now, thanks to western “help”, Ukraine will lose far more territory than it would have if the deal was done last year, and it may even cease to exist as a state. I can’t wait for you to explain how this actually helps people of Ukraine.
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          +body: "NATO is an aggressive alliance that has invaded and destroyed numerous countries. The fact that you keep pretending that it’s a defensive alliance just shows how utterly dishonest you are."
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            > False equivalence.\n
            \n
            It’s not.\n
            \n
            > Because Russia attacked them.\n
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            No, Ukraine has been engaged in atrocities in Donbas since 2014 as even western media reported at the time.\n
            \n
            > It is in fact the opposite. No neutral country stays that way for long when Russia wants it’s territory.\n
            \n
            I see you have problems with reading comprehension.\n
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            > If the West had not helped, there would be no Ukraine either. We would be condemning them to a decade of guerilla warfare and oppression. Emboldened by his victory, Putin would look further west.\n
            \n
            If the west didn’t run a coup to overthrow a democratically elected government then there would’ve been no troubles in Ukraine. Period.\n
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            > Ukrainians now fight Russia, both sides are getting exhausted and it all depends on what help Ukraine gets. Your magical peace treaty would just mean Russia trying this again in 5 years or less.\n
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            That’s complete and utter nonsense, and even western media now admits this.\n
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            > You could have used the same arguments to make peace with the Nazis in 1941 and the world would only be worse for it.\n
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            Now that’s what actual false equivalence looks like.
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            > Russian propaganda talking point.\n
            \n
            Ah yes, Russian propaganda point as reported by CNN back in 2014 [twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296](https://twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296)\n
            \n
            There’s even an hour long documentary from France on this [www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs)\n
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            Pretending this just didn’t happen is the height of intellectual dishonesty.\n
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            > Euromaidan was not a coup.\n
            \n
            Yes, it was and there’s overwhelming evidence for it.\n
            \n
            > Cite sources for the first point and military strategy analysts for the second.\n
            \n
            Are you just incapable of using google, I guess that would explain why you believe in nonsense. Here you go. First of all Russian economy is now rapidly growing while the west is going into a recession. This is not a country that’s showing any signs of being exhausted:\n
            \n
            - [newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-op…](https://www.newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-opinion-1861645)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-rosstat-2023-12-13/)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russian-factory-activity-expands-fa…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russian-factory-activity-expands-fastest-pace-seven-years-dec-pmi-2023-12-29/)\n
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            and here’s some recent mainstream media reporting on the state of the war for you to chew on\n
            \n
            - [www.nytimes.com/2024/…/ukraine-russia-war.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/13/world/europe/ukraine-russia-war.html)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defen…](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defence-minister-says-2024-01-10/)\n
            - [lepoint.fr/…/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d…](https://www.lepoint.fr/monde/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d-une-debacle-05-01-2024-2549049_24.php)\n
            - [lemonde.fr/…/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-ex…](https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2023/09/27/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-express-discontent-i-repeatedly-told-them-nato-manuals-didn-t-apply_6140349_4.html)\n
            - [spiegel.de/…/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-…](https://www.spiegel.de/politik/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-deutschen-pannen-panzern-a-cd9421ae-4a96-4d4f-983a-6205a063ae15)\n
            - [archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73](https://archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73)\n
            - [telegraph.co.uk/…/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-…](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/12/27/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-tide-war-ukraine/)\n
            - [www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/…/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/ukraine-war-victory-hopes-dim-intl/index.html)\n
            - [cbc.ca/…/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232](https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232)\n
            \n
            and here’s some analysis from military strategists for you\n
            \n
            - [www.russiamatters.org/…/whats-ahead-war-ukraine](https://www.russiamatters.org/analysis/whats-ahead-war-ukraine)\n
            - […substack.com/…/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukra…](https://mearsheimer.substack.com/p/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukraine)\n
            - [rusi.org/…/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challeng…](https://www.rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challenges-and-innovations)\n
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            Russia will win this war, and the only thing the west has achieved was to help destroy Ukraine by sabotaging negotiations in 2022.
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          +body: "Share a source for NATO invading Yugoslavia, Libya, Syria, and Afghanistan, is that what you’re asking there little buddy?"
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            Russian economy is growing while the west is going into a recession. [Russian factory activity grows at fastest pace in over six years](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-factory-activity-grows-fastest-pace-over-six-years-sept-pmi-2023-10-02/), meanwhile [while US manufacturing activity shrinks the most in three years.](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-07-03/us-manufacturing-activity-shrinks-by-most-in-three-years). UK now [can’t even make steel from raw materials.](https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/jan/18/tata-steel-to-shut-down-port-talbot-blast-furnaces-3000-jobs-at-risk)\n
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          +body: "Here’s an idea go sign up as a volunteer in Ukraine and fight yourself instead of cheering on for other people to die for you, you disgusting sack of shit."
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            The fact that the west was deeply involved in the coup is well documented even in western media\n
            \n
            - [quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukr…](https://www.quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukraines-2014-revolution-was-due-to-a-CIA-coup) ([archive.ph/BAxYc](https://archive.ph/BAxYc))\n
            - [consortiumnews.com/…/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-i…](https://consortiumnews.com/2022/12/29/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-in-kiev/)\n
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            The foundations of my beliefs are that the west saw itself as the winner of the cold war after USSR dissolved, and decided to renege on all the promises that were made in the 90s. This created increasing tensions with Russia, and eventually led to the war we’re seeing play out in Ukraine. This is a proxy war between NATO and Russia, and it’s following the script that [was outlined by RAND](https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR3063.html).\n
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            The west made a huge miscalculation thinking that it could defeat Russia militarily and economically, and now the whole thing is starting to backfire. NATO is finding that it lacks the industrial base to sustain the conflict. Russia managed to reroute its trade away from the west, which caused immeasurable economic damage to Europe. The world outside the G7 has been increasingly aligning towards Russia and China and away from the west. This proxy war is heralding the end of the unipolar moment that US enjoyed and ushering in multipolarity.\n
            \n
            > I have been using Google for long enough to know that it often shows us what we want to see, not that which is most likely to be correct. :)\n
            \n
            Have you considered that this might be why you still think that Ukraine is winning despite all the evidence to the contrary?\n
            \n
            > Regarding Russian economic data you seem to be flaunting, Russia has made it hard for outside sources to verify any of it.\n
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            Every mainstream western outlet, including the IMF, agrees that Russian economy is growing. No serious economists dispute this.\n
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            > You seem to derive a lot of your opinions from mearsheimer.substack.com source but the sources the author uses to prove your points often come from rt.com which is like, the worst source for this discussion.\n
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            Mearsheimer is just one example, and he is a preeminent political scientist in the US. The reality is that there is propaganda in the west just like there is in Russia, and western media often omits covering things that RT covers. Simply dismissing information based on the source is frankly absurd.\n
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            Incidentally, Mearsheimer gave an entire lecture back in 2014 predicting the events in Ukraine that are currently unfolding, seems to me that he might know what he’s talking about [www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4)\n
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            > I will, however, refrain from posting on lemmy.ml in the future, because I can see that you are a mod of several communities on this instance and your overall conduct in this post has been rather childish and disrespectful. I feel like mods should hold themselves to a higher standard.\n
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            Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
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          +body: "After two years, it’s pretty clear that the west is not capable of doing anything of the sort. All the west managed to achieve was to ensure that hundreds of thousands of people died, and that Ukraine lost large parts of its territory in the process. We now have admissions from Ukrainian negotiators that a peace deal was close to being reached last March before the west sabotaged it."
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            The actual truth is that it’s NATO that’s been constantly expanding towards Russia. It’s also NATO that’s been invading and destroying countries since the end of USSR. Syria, Libya, and Yugoslavia being some prominent examples.\n
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            Meanwhile, Russia tried to resolve this situation diplomatically since 2008 with Minsk agreements that western leaders now openly admit were a delaying tactic by the west.\n
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            Finally, section IX of Ukraine’s 1990 Declaration of State Sovereignty states the following:\n
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            [The Ukrainian SSR solemnly declares its intention of becoming a permanently neutral state that does not participate in military blocs and adheres to three nuclear free principles: to accept, to produce and to purchase no nuclear weapons.](https://web.archive.org/web/20130615031823/https://static.rada.gov.ua/site/postanova_eng/Declaration_of_State_Sovereignty_of_Ukraine_rev1.htm)\n
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            The whole legal basis for the existence of state of Ukraine is predicated on Ukraine staying neutral and not joining military blocs. Ukraine broke the very basis of this agreement when it tried to join NATO.\n
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            Now, thanks to western “help”, Ukraine will lose far more territory than it would have if the deal was done last year, and it may even cease to exist as a state. I can’t wait for you to explain how this actually helps people of Ukraine.
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          +body: "NATO is an aggressive alliance that has invaded and destroyed numerous countries. The fact that you keep pretending that it’s a defensive alliance just shows how utterly dishonest you are."
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            > False equivalence.\n
            \n
            It’s not.\n
            \n
            > Because Russia attacked them.\n
            \n
            No, Ukraine has been engaged in atrocities in Donbas since 2014 as even western media reported at the time.\n
            \n
            > It is in fact the opposite. No neutral country stays that way for long when Russia wants it’s territory.\n
            \n
            I see you have problems with reading comprehension.\n
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            > If the West had not helped, there would be no Ukraine either. We would be condemning them to a decade of guerilla warfare and oppression. Emboldened by his victory, Putin would look further west.\n
            \n
            If the west didn’t run a coup to overthrow a democratically elected government then there would’ve been no troubles in Ukraine. Period.\n
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            > Ukrainians now fight Russia, both sides are getting exhausted and it all depends on what help Ukraine gets. Your magical peace treaty would just mean Russia trying this again in 5 years or less.\n
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            That’s complete and utter nonsense, and even western media now admits this.\n
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            > You could have used the same arguments to make peace with the Nazis in 1941 and the world would only be worse for it.\n
            \n
            Now that’s what actual false equivalence looks like.
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            > Russian propaganda talking point.\n
            \n
            Ah yes, Russian propaganda point as reported by CNN back in 2014 [twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296](https://twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296)\n
            \n
            There’s even an hour long documentary from France on this [www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs)\n
            \n
            Pretending this just didn’t happen is the height of intellectual dishonesty.\n
            \n
            > Euromaidan was not a coup.\n
            \n
            Yes, it was and there’s overwhelming evidence for it.\n
            \n
            > Cite sources for the first point and military strategy analysts for the second.\n
            \n
            Are you just incapable of using google, I guess that would explain why you believe in nonsense. Here you go. First of all Russian economy is now rapidly growing while the west is going into a recession. This is not a country that’s showing any signs of being exhausted:\n
            \n
            - [newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-op…](https://www.newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-opinion-1861645)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-rosstat-2023-12-13/)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russian-factory-activity-expands-fa…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russian-factory-activity-expands-fastest-pace-seven-years-dec-pmi-2023-12-29/)\n
            \n
            and here’s some recent mainstream media reporting on the state of the war for you to chew on\n
            \n
            - [www.nytimes.com/2024/…/ukraine-russia-war.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/13/world/europe/ukraine-russia-war.html)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defen…](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defence-minister-says-2024-01-10/)\n
            - [lepoint.fr/…/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d…](https://www.lepoint.fr/monde/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d-une-debacle-05-01-2024-2549049_24.php)\n
            - [lemonde.fr/…/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-ex…](https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2023/09/27/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-express-discontent-i-repeatedly-told-them-nato-manuals-didn-t-apply_6140349_4.html)\n
            - [spiegel.de/…/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-…](https://www.spiegel.de/politik/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-deutschen-pannen-panzern-a-cd9421ae-4a96-4d4f-983a-6205a063ae15)\n
            - [archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73](https://archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73)\n
            - [telegraph.co.uk/…/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-…](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/12/27/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-tide-war-ukraine/)\n
            - [www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/…/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/ukraine-war-victory-hopes-dim-intl/index.html)\n
            - [cbc.ca/…/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232](https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232)\n
            \n
            and here’s some analysis from military strategists for you\n
            \n
            - [www.russiamatters.org/…/whats-ahead-war-ukraine](https://www.russiamatters.org/analysis/whats-ahead-war-ukraine)\n
            - […substack.com/…/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukra…](https://mearsheimer.substack.com/p/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukraine)\n
            - [rusi.org/…/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challeng…](https://www.rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challenges-and-innovations)\n
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            Russia will win this war, and the only thing the west has achieved was to help destroy Ukraine by sabotaging negotiations in 2022.
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          +body: "Share a source for NATO invading Yugoslavia, Libya, Syria, and Afghanistan, is that what you’re asking there little buddy?"
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          +body: "No, I’m saying that anybody can type in words NATO and Yugoslavia or NATO and Libya into Google and see that you’re a liar."
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            Russian economy is growing while the west is going into a recession. [Russian factory activity grows at fastest pace in over six years](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-factory-activity-grows-fastest-pace-over-six-years-sept-pmi-2023-10-02/), meanwhile [while US manufacturing activity shrinks the most in three years.](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-07-03/us-manufacturing-activity-shrinks-by-most-in-three-years). UK now [can’t even make steel from raw materials.](https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/jan/18/tata-steel-to-shut-down-port-talbot-blast-furnaces-3000-jobs-at-risk)\n
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            Yes, people still bleat about a weaker Russia. 🤡
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          +body: "Here’s an idea go sign up as a volunteer in Ukraine and fight yourself instead of cheering on for other people to die for you, you disgusting sack of shit."
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            The fact that the west was deeply involved in the coup is well documented even in western media\n
            \n
            - [quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukr…](https://www.quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukraines-2014-revolution-was-due-to-a-CIA-coup) ([archive.ph/BAxYc](https://archive.ph/BAxYc))\n
            - [consortiumnews.com/…/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-i…](https://consortiumnews.com/2022/12/29/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-in-kiev/)\n
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            The foundations of my beliefs are that the west saw itself as the winner of the cold war after USSR dissolved, and decided to renege on all the promises that were made in the 90s. This created increasing tensions with Russia, and eventually led to the war we’re seeing play out in Ukraine. This is a proxy war between NATO and Russia, and it’s following the script that [was outlined by RAND](https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR3063.html).\n
            \n
            The west made a huge miscalculation thinking that it could defeat Russia militarily and economically, and now the whole thing is starting to backfire. NATO is finding that it lacks the industrial base to sustain the conflict. Russia managed to reroute its trade away from the west, which caused immeasurable economic damage to Europe. The world outside the G7 has been increasingly aligning towards Russia and China and away from the west. This proxy war is heralding the end of the unipolar moment that US enjoyed and ushering in multipolarity.\n
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            > I have been using Google for long enough to know that it often shows us what we want to see, not that which is most likely to be correct. :)\n
            \n
            Have you considered that this might be why you still think that Ukraine is winning despite all the evidence to the contrary?\n
            \n
            > Regarding Russian economic data you seem to be flaunting, Russia has made it hard for outside sources to verify any of it.\n
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            Every mainstream western outlet, including the IMF, agrees that Russian economy is growing. No serious economists dispute this.\n
            \n
            > You seem to derive a lot of your opinions from mearsheimer.substack.com source but the sources the author uses to prove your points often come from rt.com which is like, the worst source for this discussion.\n
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            Now, thanks to western “help”, Ukraine will lose far more territory than it would have if the deal was done last year, and it may even cease to exist as a state. I can’t wait for you to explain how this actually helps people of Ukraine.
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          +body: "NATO is an aggressive alliance that has invaded and destroyed numerous countries. The fact that you keep pretending that it’s a defensive alliance just shows how utterly dishonest you are."
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            > False equivalence.\n
            \n
            It’s not.\n
            \n
            > Because Russia attacked them.\n
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            No, Ukraine has been engaged in atrocities in Donbas since 2014 as even western media reported at the time.\n
            \n
            > It is in fact the opposite. No neutral country stays that way for long when Russia wants it’s territory.\n
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            I see you have problems with reading comprehension.\n
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            > If the West had not helped, there would be no Ukraine either. We would be condemning them to a decade of guerilla warfare and oppression. Emboldened by his victory, Putin would look further west.\n
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            If the west didn’t run a coup to overthrow a democratically elected government then there would’ve been no troubles in Ukraine. Period.\n
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            > Ukrainians now fight Russia, both sides are getting exhausted and it all depends on what help Ukraine gets. Your magical peace treaty would just mean Russia trying this again in 5 years or less.\n
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            That’s complete and utter nonsense, and even western media now admits this.\n
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            > You could have used the same arguments to make peace with the Nazis in 1941 and the world would only be worse for it.\n
            \n
            Now that’s what actual false equivalence looks like.
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            > Russian propaganda talking point.\n
            \n
            Ah yes, Russian propaganda point as reported by CNN back in 2014 [twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296](https://twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296)\n
            \n
            There’s even an hour long documentary from France on this [www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs)\n
            \n
            Pretending this just didn’t happen is the height of intellectual dishonesty.\n
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            > Euromaidan was not a coup.\n
            \n
            Yes, it was and there’s overwhelming evidence for it.\n
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            > Cite sources for the first point and military strategy analysts for the second.\n
            \n
            Are you just incapable of using google, I guess that would explain why you believe in nonsense. Here you go. First of all Russian economy is now rapidly growing while the west is going into a recession. This is not a country that’s showing any signs of being exhausted:\n
            \n
            - [newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-op…](https://www.newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-opinion-1861645)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-rosstat-2023-12-13/)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russian-factory-activity-expands-fa…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russian-factory-activity-expands-fastest-pace-seven-years-dec-pmi-2023-12-29/)\n
            \n
            and here’s some recent mainstream media reporting on the state of the war for you to chew on\n
            \n
            - [www.nytimes.com/2024/…/ukraine-russia-war.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/13/world/europe/ukraine-russia-war.html)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defen…](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defence-minister-says-2024-01-10/)\n
            - [lepoint.fr/…/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d…](https://www.lepoint.fr/monde/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d-une-debacle-05-01-2024-2549049_24.php)\n
            - [lemonde.fr/…/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-ex…](https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2023/09/27/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-express-discontent-i-repeatedly-told-them-nato-manuals-didn-t-apply_6140349_4.html)\n
            - [spiegel.de/…/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-…](https://www.spiegel.de/politik/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-deutschen-pannen-panzern-a-cd9421ae-4a96-4d4f-983a-6205a063ae15)\n
            - [archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73](https://archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73)\n
            - [telegraph.co.uk/…/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-…](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/12/27/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-tide-war-ukraine/)\n
            - [www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/…/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/ukraine-war-victory-hopes-dim-intl/index.html)\n
            - [cbc.ca/…/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232](https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232)\n
            \n
            and here’s some analysis from military strategists for you\n
            \n
            - [www.russiamatters.org/…/whats-ahead-war-ukraine](https://www.russiamatters.org/analysis/whats-ahead-war-ukraine)\n
            - […substack.com/…/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukra…](https://mearsheimer.substack.com/p/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukraine)\n
            - [rusi.org/…/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challeng…](https://www.rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challenges-and-innovations)\n
            \n
            Russia will win this war, and the only thing the west has achieved was to help destroy Ukraine by sabotaging negotiations in 2022.
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            Russian economy is growing while the west is going into a recession. [Russian factory activity grows at fastest pace in over six years](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-factory-activity-grows-fastest-pace-over-six-years-sept-pmi-2023-10-02/), meanwhile [while US manufacturing activity shrinks the most in three years.](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-07-03/us-manufacturing-activity-shrinks-by-most-in-three-years). UK now [can’t even make steel from raw materials.](https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/jan/18/tata-steel-to-shut-down-port-talbot-blast-furnaces-3000-jobs-at-risk)\n
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            Yes, people still bleat about a weaker Russia. 🤡
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            The fact that the west was deeply involved in the coup is well documented even in western media\n
            \n
            - [quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukr…](https://www.quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukraines-2014-revolution-was-due-to-a-CIA-coup) ([archive.ph/BAxYc](https://archive.ph/BAxYc))\n
            - [consortiumnews.com/…/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-i…](https://consortiumnews.com/2022/12/29/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-in-kiev/)\n
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            The foundations of my beliefs are that the west saw itself as the winner of the cold war after USSR dissolved, and decided to renege on all the promises that were made in the 90s. This created increasing tensions with Russia, and eventually led to the war we’re seeing play out in Ukraine. This is a proxy war between NATO and Russia, and it’s following the script that [was outlined by RAND](https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR3063.html).\n
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            The west made a huge miscalculation thinking that it could defeat Russia militarily and economically, and now the whole thing is starting to backfire. NATO is finding that it lacks the industrial base to sustain the conflict. Russia managed to reroute its trade away from the west, which caused immeasurable economic damage to Europe. The world outside the G7 has been increasingly aligning towards Russia and China and away from the west. This proxy war is heralding the end of the unipolar moment that US enjoyed and ushering in multipolarity.\n
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            > I have been using Google for long enough to know that it often shows us what we want to see, not that which is most likely to be correct. :)\n
            \n
            Have you considered that this might be why you still think that Ukraine is winning despite all the evidence to the contrary?\n
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            > Regarding Russian economic data you seem to be flaunting, Russia has made it hard for outside sources to verify any of it.\n
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            Every mainstream western outlet, including the IMF, agrees that Russian economy is growing. No serious economists dispute this.\n
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            > You seem to derive a lot of your opinions from mearsheimer.substack.com source but the sources the author uses to prove your points often come from rt.com which is like, the worst source for this discussion.\n
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            Mearsheimer is just one example, and he is a preeminent political scientist in the US. The reality is that there is propaganda in the west just like there is in Russia, and western media often omits covering things that RT covers. Simply dismissing information based on the source is frankly absurd.\n
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            Incidentally, Mearsheimer gave an entire lecture back in 2014 predicting the events in Ukraine that are currently unfolding, seems to me that he might know what he’s talking about [www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4)\n
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            > I will, however, refrain from posting on lemmy.ml in the future, because I can see that you are a mod of several communities on this instance and your overall conduct in this post has been rather childish and disrespectful. I feel like mods should hold themselves to a higher standard.\n
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            Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
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            The actual truth is that it’s NATO that’s been constantly expanding towards Russia. It’s also NATO that’s been invading and destroying countries since the end of USSR. Syria, Libya, and Yugoslavia being some prominent examples.\n
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            Meanwhile, Russia tried to resolve this situation diplomatically since 2008 with Minsk agreements that western leaders now openly admit were a delaying tactic by the west.\n
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            Now, thanks to western “help”, Ukraine will lose far more territory than it would have if the deal was done last year, and it may even cease to exist as a state. I can’t wait for you to explain how this actually helps people of Ukraine.
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          +body: "NATO is an aggressive alliance that has invaded and destroyed numerous countries. The fact that you keep pretending that it’s a defensive alliance just shows how utterly dishonest you are."
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            > False equivalence.\n
            \n
            It’s not.\n
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            > Because Russia attacked them.\n
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            No, Ukraine has been engaged in atrocities in Donbas since 2014 as even western media reported at the time.\n
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            > It is in fact the opposite. No neutral country stays that way for long when Russia wants it’s territory.\n
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            I see you have problems with reading comprehension.\n
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            If the west didn’t run a coup to overthrow a democratically elected government then there would’ve been no troubles in Ukraine. Period.\n
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            That’s complete and utter nonsense, and even western media now admits this.\n
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            > You could have used the same arguments to make peace with the Nazis in 1941 and the world would only be worse for it.\n
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            Now that’s what actual false equivalence looks like.
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            > Russian propaganda talking point.\n
            \n
            Ah yes, Russian propaganda point as reported by CNN back in 2014 [twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296](https://twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296)\n
            \n
            There’s even an hour long documentary from France on this [www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs)\n
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            Pretending this just didn’t happen is the height of intellectual dishonesty.\n
            \n
            > Euromaidan was not a coup.\n
            \n
            Yes, it was and there’s overwhelming evidence for it.\n
            \n
            > Cite sources for the first point and military strategy analysts for the second.\n
            \n
            Are you just incapable of using google, I guess that would explain why you believe in nonsense. Here you go. First of all Russian economy is now rapidly growing while the west is going into a recession. This is not a country that’s showing any signs of being exhausted:\n
            \n
            - [newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-op…](https://www.newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-opinion-1861645)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-rosstat-2023-12-13/)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russian-factory-activity-expands-fa…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russian-factory-activity-expands-fastest-pace-seven-years-dec-pmi-2023-12-29/)\n
            \n
            and here’s some recent mainstream media reporting on the state of the war for you to chew on\n
            \n
            - [www.nytimes.com/2024/…/ukraine-russia-war.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/13/world/europe/ukraine-russia-war.html)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defen…](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defence-minister-says-2024-01-10/)\n
            - [lepoint.fr/…/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d…](https://www.lepoint.fr/monde/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d-une-debacle-05-01-2024-2549049_24.php)\n
            - [lemonde.fr/…/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-ex…](https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2023/09/27/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-express-discontent-i-repeatedly-told-them-nato-manuals-didn-t-apply_6140349_4.html)\n
            - [spiegel.de/…/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-…](https://www.spiegel.de/politik/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-deutschen-pannen-panzern-a-cd9421ae-4a96-4d4f-983a-6205a063ae15)\n
            - [archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73](https://archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73)\n
            - [telegraph.co.uk/…/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-…](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/12/27/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-tide-war-ukraine/)\n
            - [www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/…/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/ukraine-war-victory-hopes-dim-intl/index.html)\n
            - [cbc.ca/…/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232](https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232)\n
            \n
            and here’s some analysis from military strategists for you\n
            \n
            - [www.russiamatters.org/…/whats-ahead-war-ukraine](https://www.russiamatters.org/analysis/whats-ahead-war-ukraine)\n
            - […substack.com/…/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukra…](https://mearsheimer.substack.com/p/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukraine)\n
            - [rusi.org/…/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challeng…](https://www.rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challenges-and-innovations)\n
            \n
            Russia will win this war, and the only thing the west has achieved was to help destroy Ukraine by sabotaging negotiations in 2022.
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            Russian economy is growing while the west is going into a recession. [Russian factory activity grows at fastest pace in over six years](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-factory-activity-grows-fastest-pace-over-six-years-sept-pmi-2023-10-02/), meanwhile [while US manufacturing activity shrinks the most in three years.](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-07-03/us-manufacturing-activity-shrinks-by-most-in-three-years). UK now [can’t even make steel from raw materials.](https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/jan/18/tata-steel-to-shut-down-port-talbot-blast-furnaces-3000-jobs-at-risk)\n
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            The fact that the west was deeply involved in the coup is well documented even in western media\n
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            - [quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukr…](https://www.quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukraines-2014-revolution-was-due-to-a-CIA-coup) ([archive.ph/BAxYc](https://archive.ph/BAxYc))\n
            - [consortiumnews.com/…/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-i…](https://consortiumnews.com/2022/12/29/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-in-kiev/)\n
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            The foundations of my beliefs are that the west saw itself as the winner of the cold war after USSR dissolved, and decided to renege on all the promises that were made in the 90s. This created increasing tensions with Russia, and eventually led to the war we’re seeing play out in Ukraine. This is a proxy war between NATO and Russia, and it’s following the script that [was outlined by RAND](https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR3063.html).\n
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            The west made a huge miscalculation thinking that it could defeat Russia militarily and economically, and now the whole thing is starting to backfire. NATO is finding that it lacks the industrial base to sustain the conflict. Russia managed to reroute its trade away from the west, which caused immeasurable economic damage to Europe. The world outside the G7 has been increasingly aligning towards Russia and China and away from the west. This proxy war is heralding the end of the unipolar moment that US enjoyed and ushering in multipolarity.\n
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            > I have been using Google for long enough to know that it often shows us what we want to see, not that which is most likely to be correct. :)\n
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            Have you considered that this might be why you still think that Ukraine is winning despite all the evidence to the contrary?\n
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            > Regarding Russian economic data you seem to be flaunting, Russia has made it hard for outside sources to verify any of it.\n
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            Every mainstream western outlet, including the IMF, agrees that Russian economy is growing. No serious economists dispute this.\n
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            > You seem to derive a lot of your opinions from mearsheimer.substack.com source but the sources the author uses to prove your points often come from rt.com which is like, the worst source for this discussion.\n
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            Mearsheimer is just one example, and he is a preeminent political scientist in the US. The reality is that there is propaganda in the west just like there is in Russia, and western media often omits covering things that RT covers. Simply dismissing information based on the source is frankly absurd.\n
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            Incidentally, Mearsheimer gave an entire lecture back in 2014 predicting the events in Ukraine that are currently unfolding, seems to me that he might know what he’s talking about [www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4)\n
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            > I will, however, refrain from posting on lemmy.ml in the future, because I can see that you are a mod of several communities on this instance and your overall conduct in this post has been rather childish and disrespectful. I feel like mods should hold themselves to a higher standard.\n
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            Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
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          +body: "After two years, it’s pretty clear that the west is not capable of doing anything of the sort. All the west managed to achieve was to ensure that hundreds of thousands of people died, and that Ukraine lost large parts of its territory in the process. We now have admissions from Ukrainian negotiators that a peace deal was close to being reached last March before the west sabotaged it."
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            The actual truth is that it’s NATO that’s been constantly expanding towards Russia. It’s also NATO that’s been invading and destroying countries since the end of USSR. Syria, Libya, and Yugoslavia being some prominent examples.\n
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            Meanwhile, Russia tried to resolve this situation diplomatically since 2008 with Minsk agreements that western leaders now openly admit were a delaying tactic by the west.\n
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            Finally, section IX of Ukraine’s 1990 Declaration of State Sovereignty states the following:\n
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            The whole legal basis for the existence of state of Ukraine is predicated on Ukraine staying neutral and not joining military blocs. Ukraine broke the very basis of this agreement when it tried to join NATO.\n
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            Now, thanks to western “help”, Ukraine will lose far more territory than it would have if the deal was done last year, and it may even cease to exist as a state. I can’t wait for you to explain how this actually helps people of Ukraine.
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          +body: "NATO is an aggressive alliance that has invaded and destroyed numerous countries. The fact that you keep pretending that it’s a defensive alliance just shows how utterly dishonest you are."
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            > False equivalence.\n
            \n
            It’s not.\n
            \n
            > Because Russia attacked them.\n
            \n
            No, Ukraine has been engaged in atrocities in Donbas since 2014 as even western media reported at the time.\n
            \n
            > It is in fact the opposite. No neutral country stays that way for long when Russia wants it’s territory.\n
            \n
            I see you have problems with reading comprehension.\n
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            > If the West had not helped, there would be no Ukraine either. We would be condemning them to a decade of guerilla warfare and oppression. Emboldened by his victory, Putin would look further west.\n
            \n
            If the west didn’t run a coup to overthrow a democratically elected government then there would’ve been no troubles in Ukraine. Period.\n
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            > Ukrainians now fight Russia, both sides are getting exhausted and it all depends on what help Ukraine gets. Your magical peace treaty would just mean Russia trying this again in 5 years or less.\n
            \n
            That’s complete and utter nonsense, and even western media now admits this.\n
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            > You could have used the same arguments to make peace with the Nazis in 1941 and the world would only be worse for it.\n
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            Now that’s what actual false equivalence looks like.
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            > Russian propaganda talking point.\n
            \n
            Ah yes, Russian propaganda point as reported by CNN back in 2014 [twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296](https://twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296)\n
            \n
            There’s even an hour long documentary from France on this [www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs)\n
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            Pretending this just didn’t happen is the height of intellectual dishonesty.\n
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            > Euromaidan was not a coup.\n
            \n
            Yes, it was and there’s overwhelming evidence for it.\n
            \n
            > Cite sources for the first point and military strategy analysts for the second.\n
            \n
            Are you just incapable of using google, I guess that would explain why you believe in nonsense. Here you go. First of all Russian economy is now rapidly growing while the west is going into a recession. This is not a country that’s showing any signs of being exhausted:\n
            \n
            - [newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-op…](https://www.newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-opinion-1861645)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-rosstat-2023-12-13/)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russian-factory-activity-expands-fa…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russian-factory-activity-expands-fastest-pace-seven-years-dec-pmi-2023-12-29/)\n
            \n
            and here’s some recent mainstream media reporting on the state of the war for you to chew on\n
            \n
            - [www.nytimes.com/2024/…/ukraine-russia-war.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/13/world/europe/ukraine-russia-war.html)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defen…](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defence-minister-says-2024-01-10/)\n
            - [lepoint.fr/…/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d…](https://www.lepoint.fr/monde/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d-une-debacle-05-01-2024-2549049_24.php)\n
            - [lemonde.fr/…/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-ex…](https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2023/09/27/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-express-discontent-i-repeatedly-told-them-nato-manuals-didn-t-apply_6140349_4.html)\n
            - [spiegel.de/…/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-…](https://www.spiegel.de/politik/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-deutschen-pannen-panzern-a-cd9421ae-4a96-4d4f-983a-6205a063ae15)\n
            - [archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73](https://archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73)\n
            - [telegraph.co.uk/…/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-…](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/12/27/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-tide-war-ukraine/)\n
            - [www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/…/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/ukraine-war-victory-hopes-dim-intl/index.html)\n
            - [cbc.ca/…/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232](https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232)\n
            \n
            and here’s some analysis from military strategists for you\n
            \n
            - [www.russiamatters.org/…/whats-ahead-war-ukraine](https://www.russiamatters.org/analysis/whats-ahead-war-ukraine)\n
            - […substack.com/…/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukra…](https://mearsheimer.substack.com/p/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukraine)\n
            - [rusi.org/…/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challeng…](https://www.rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challenges-and-innovations)\n
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            Russia will win this war, and the only thing the west has achieved was to help destroy Ukraine by sabotaging negotiations in 2022.
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          +body: "Share a source for NATO invading Yugoslavia, Libya, Syria, and Afghanistan, is that what you’re asking there little buddy?"
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            Russian economy is growing while the west is going into a recession. [Russian factory activity grows at fastest pace in over six years](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-factory-activity-grows-fastest-pace-over-six-years-sept-pmi-2023-10-02/), meanwhile [while US manufacturing activity shrinks the most in three years.](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-07-03/us-manufacturing-activity-shrinks-by-most-in-three-years). UK now [can’t even make steel from raw materials.](https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/jan/18/tata-steel-to-shut-down-port-talbot-blast-furnaces-3000-jobs-at-risk)\n
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            Yes, people still bleat about a weaker Russia. 🤡
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          +body: "Here’s an idea go sign up as a volunteer in Ukraine and fight yourself instead of cheering on for other people to die for you, you disgusting sack of shit."
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            The fact that the west was deeply involved in the coup is well documented even in western media\n
            \n
            - [quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukr…](https://www.quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukraines-2014-revolution-was-due-to-a-CIA-coup) ([archive.ph/BAxYc](https://archive.ph/BAxYc))\n
            - [consortiumnews.com/…/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-i…](https://consortiumnews.com/2022/12/29/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-in-kiev/)\n
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            The foundations of my beliefs are that the west saw itself as the winner of the cold war after USSR dissolved, and decided to renege on all the promises that were made in the 90s. This created increasing tensions with Russia, and eventually led to the war we’re seeing play out in Ukraine. This is a proxy war between NATO and Russia, and it’s following the script that [was outlined by RAND](https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR3063.html).\n
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            The west made a huge miscalculation thinking that it could defeat Russia militarily and economically, and now the whole thing is starting to backfire. NATO is finding that it lacks the industrial base to sustain the conflict. Russia managed to reroute its trade away from the west, which caused immeasurable economic damage to Europe. The world outside the G7 has been increasingly aligning towards Russia and China and away from the west. This proxy war is heralding the end of the unipolar moment that US enjoyed and ushering in multipolarity.\n
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            > I have been using Google for long enough to know that it often shows us what we want to see, not that which is most likely to be correct. :)\n
            \n
            Have you considered that this might be why you still think that Ukraine is winning despite all the evidence to the contrary?\n
            \n
            > Regarding Russian economic data you seem to be flaunting, Russia has made it hard for outside sources to verify any of it.\n
            \n
            Every mainstream western outlet, including the IMF, agrees that Russian economy is growing. No serious economists dispute this.\n
            \n
            > You seem to derive a lot of your opinions from mearsheimer.substack.com source but the sources the author uses to prove your points often come from rt.com which is like, the worst source for this discussion.\n
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            Mearsheimer is just one example, and he is a preeminent political scientist in the US. The reality is that there is propaganda in the west just like there is in Russia, and western media often omits covering things that RT covers. Simply dismissing information based on the source is frankly absurd.\n
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            Incidentally, Mearsheimer gave an entire lecture back in 2014 predicting the events in Ukraine that are currently unfolding, seems to me that he might know what he’s talking about [www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4)\n
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            > I will, however, refrain from posting on lemmy.ml in the future, because I can see that you are a mod of several communities on this instance and your overall conduct in this post has been rather childish and disrespectful. I feel like mods should hold themselves to a higher standard.\n
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            Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
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            The actual truth is that it’s NATO that’s been constantly expanding towards Russia. It’s also NATO that’s been invading and destroying countries since the end of USSR. Syria, Libya, and Yugoslavia being some prominent examples.\n
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          +body: "NATO is an aggressive alliance that has invaded and destroyed numerous countries. The fact that you keep pretending that it’s a defensive alliance just shows how utterly dishonest you are."
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            > False equivalence.\n
            \n
            It’s not.\n
            \n
            > Because Russia attacked them.\n
            \n
            No, Ukraine has been engaged in atrocities in Donbas since 2014 as even western media reported at the time.\n
            \n
            > It is in fact the opposite. No neutral country stays that way for long when Russia wants it’s territory.\n
            \n
            I see you have problems with reading comprehension.\n
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            > If the West had not helped, there would be no Ukraine either. We would be condemning them to a decade of guerilla warfare and oppression. Emboldened by his victory, Putin would look further west.\n
            \n
            If the west didn’t run a coup to overthrow a democratically elected government then there would’ve been no troubles in Ukraine. Period.\n
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            > Ukrainians now fight Russia, both sides are getting exhausted and it all depends on what help Ukraine gets. Your magical peace treaty would just mean Russia trying this again in 5 years or less.\n
            \n
            That’s complete and utter nonsense, and even western media now admits this.\n
            \n
            > You could have used the same arguments to make peace with the Nazis in 1941 and the world would only be worse for it.\n
            \n
            Now that’s what actual false equivalence looks like.
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            > Russian propaganda talking point.\n
            \n
            Ah yes, Russian propaganda point as reported by CNN back in 2014 [twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296](https://twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296)\n
            \n
            There’s even an hour long documentary from France on this [www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs)\n
            \n
            Pretending this just didn’t happen is the height of intellectual dishonesty.\n
            \n
            > Euromaidan was not a coup.\n
            \n
            Yes, it was and there’s overwhelming evidence for it.\n
            \n
            > Cite sources for the first point and military strategy analysts for the second.\n
            \n
            Are you just incapable of using google, I guess that would explain why you believe in nonsense. Here you go. First of all Russian economy is now rapidly growing while the west is going into a recession. This is not a country that’s showing any signs of being exhausted:\n
            \n
            - [newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-op…](https://www.newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-opinion-1861645)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-rosstat-2023-12-13/)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russian-factory-activity-expands-fa…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russian-factory-activity-expands-fastest-pace-seven-years-dec-pmi-2023-12-29/)\n
            \n
            and here’s some recent mainstream media reporting on the state of the war for you to chew on\n
            \n
            - [www.nytimes.com/2024/…/ukraine-russia-war.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/13/world/europe/ukraine-russia-war.html)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defen…](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defence-minister-says-2024-01-10/)\n
            - [lepoint.fr/…/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d…](https://www.lepoint.fr/monde/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d-une-debacle-05-01-2024-2549049_24.php)\n
            - [lemonde.fr/…/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-ex…](https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2023/09/27/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-express-discontent-i-repeatedly-told-them-nato-manuals-didn-t-apply_6140349_4.html)\n
            - [spiegel.de/…/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-…](https://www.spiegel.de/politik/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-deutschen-pannen-panzern-a-cd9421ae-4a96-4d4f-983a-6205a063ae15)\n
            - [archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73](https://archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73)\n
            - [telegraph.co.uk/…/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-…](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/12/27/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-tide-war-ukraine/)\n
            - [www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/…/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/ukraine-war-victory-hopes-dim-intl/index.html)\n
            - [cbc.ca/…/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232](https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232)\n
            \n
            and here’s some analysis from military strategists for you\n
            \n
            - [www.russiamatters.org/…/whats-ahead-war-ukraine](https://www.russiamatters.org/analysis/whats-ahead-war-ukraine)\n
            - […substack.com/…/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukra…](https://mearsheimer.substack.com/p/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukraine)\n
            - [rusi.org/…/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challeng…](https://www.rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challenges-and-innovations)\n
            \n
            Russia will win this war, and the only thing the west has achieved was to help destroy Ukraine by sabotaging negotiations in 2022.
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          +body: "Share a source for NATO invading Yugoslavia, Libya, Syria, and Afghanistan, is that what you’re asking there little buddy?"
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          +body: "No, I’m saying that anybody can type in words NATO and Yugoslavia or NATO and Libya into Google and see that you’re a liar."
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            Russian economy is growing while the west is going into a recession. [Russian factory activity grows at fastest pace in over six years](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-factory-activity-grows-fastest-pace-over-six-years-sept-pmi-2023-10-02/), meanwhile [while US manufacturing activity shrinks the most in three years.](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-07-03/us-manufacturing-activity-shrinks-by-most-in-three-years). UK now [can’t even make steel from raw materials.](https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/jan/18/tata-steel-to-shut-down-port-talbot-blast-furnaces-3000-jobs-at-risk)\n
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            The fact that the west was deeply involved in the coup is well documented even in western media\n
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            - [quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukr…](https://www.quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukraines-2014-revolution-was-due-to-a-CIA-coup) ([archive.ph/BAxYc](https://archive.ph/BAxYc))\n
            - [consortiumnews.com/…/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-i…](https://consortiumnews.com/2022/12/29/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-in-kiev/)\n
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            The foundations of my beliefs are that the west saw itself as the winner of the cold war after USSR dissolved, and decided to renege on all the promises that were made in the 90s. This created increasing tensions with Russia, and eventually led to the war we’re seeing play out in Ukraine. This is a proxy war between NATO and Russia, and it’s following the script that [was outlined by RAND](https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR3063.html).\n
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            The west made a huge miscalculation thinking that it could defeat Russia militarily and economically, and now the whole thing is starting to backfire. NATO is finding that it lacks the industrial base to sustain the conflict. Russia managed to reroute its trade away from the west, which caused immeasurable economic damage to Europe. The world outside the G7 has been increasingly aligning towards Russia and China and away from the west. This proxy war is heralding the end of the unipolar moment that US enjoyed and ushering in multipolarity.\n
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            > I have been using Google for long enough to know that it often shows us what we want to see, not that which is most likely to be correct. :)\n
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            Have you considered that this might be why you still think that Ukraine is winning despite all the evidence to the contrary?\n
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            > Regarding Russian economic data you seem to be flaunting, Russia has made it hard for outside sources to verify any of it.\n
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            Every mainstream western outlet, including the IMF, agrees that Russian economy is growing. No serious economists dispute this.\n
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            > You seem to derive a lot of your opinions from mearsheimer.substack.com source but the sources the author uses to prove your points often come from rt.com which is like, the worst source for this discussion.\n
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            Mearsheimer is just one example, and he is a preeminent political scientist in the US. The reality is that there is propaganda in the west just like there is in Russia, and western media often omits covering things that RT covers. Simply dismissing information based on the source is frankly absurd.\n
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            Incidentally, Mearsheimer gave an entire lecture back in 2014 predicting the events in Ukraine that are currently unfolding, seems to me that he might know what he’s talking about [www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4)\n
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            > I will, however, refrain from posting on lemmy.ml in the future, because I can see that you are a mod of several communities on this instance and your overall conduct in this post has been rather childish and disrespectful. I feel like mods should hold themselves to a higher standard.\n
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            Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
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          +body: "After two years, it’s pretty clear that the west is not capable of doing anything of the sort. All the west managed to achieve was to ensure that hundreds of thousands of people died, and that Ukraine lost large parts of its territory in the process. We now have admissions from Ukrainian negotiators that a peace deal was close to being reached last March before the west sabotaged it."
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            The actual truth is that it’s NATO that’s been constantly expanding towards Russia. It’s also NATO that’s been invading and destroying countries since the end of USSR. Syria, Libya, and Yugoslavia being some prominent examples.\n
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            Meanwhile, Russia tried to resolve this situation diplomatically since 2008 with Minsk agreements that western leaders now openly admit were a delaying tactic by the west.\n
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            Finally, section IX of Ukraine’s 1990 Declaration of State Sovereignty states the following:\n
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            The whole legal basis for the existence of state of Ukraine is predicated on Ukraine staying neutral and not joining military blocs. Ukraine broke the very basis of this agreement when it tried to join NATO.\n
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            Now, thanks to western “help”, Ukraine will lose far more territory than it would have if the deal was done last year, and it may even cease to exist as a state. I can’t wait for you to explain how this actually helps people of Ukraine.
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          +body: "NATO is an aggressive alliance that has invaded and destroyed numerous countries. The fact that you keep pretending that it’s a defensive alliance just shows how utterly dishonest you are."
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            > False equivalence.\n
            \n
            It’s not.\n
            \n
            > Because Russia attacked them.\n
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            No, Ukraine has been engaged in atrocities in Donbas since 2014 as even western media reported at the time.\n
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            > It is in fact the opposite. No neutral country stays that way for long when Russia wants it’s territory.\n
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            I see you have problems with reading comprehension.\n
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            > If the West had not helped, there would be no Ukraine either. We would be condemning them to a decade of guerilla warfare and oppression. Emboldened by his victory, Putin would look further west.\n
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            If the west didn’t run a coup to overthrow a democratically elected government then there would’ve been no troubles in Ukraine. Period.\n
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            > Ukrainians now fight Russia, both sides are getting exhausted and it all depends on what help Ukraine gets. Your magical peace treaty would just mean Russia trying this again in 5 years or less.\n
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            That’s complete and utter nonsense, and even western media now admits this.\n
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            > You could have used the same arguments to make peace with the Nazis in 1941 and the world would only be worse for it.\n
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            Now that’s what actual false equivalence looks like.
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            > Russian propaganda talking point.\n
            \n
            Ah yes, Russian propaganda point as reported by CNN back in 2014 [twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296](https://twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296)\n
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            There’s even an hour long documentary from France on this [www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs)\n
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            Pretending this just didn’t happen is the height of intellectual dishonesty.\n
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            > Euromaidan was not a coup.\n
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            Yes, it was and there’s overwhelming evidence for it.\n
            \n
            > Cite sources for the first point and military strategy analysts for the second.\n
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            Are you just incapable of using google, I guess that would explain why you believe in nonsense. Here you go. First of all Russian economy is now rapidly growing while the west is going into a recession. This is not a country that’s showing any signs of being exhausted:\n
            \n
            - [newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-op…](https://www.newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-opinion-1861645)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-rosstat-2023-12-13/)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russian-factory-activity-expands-fa…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russian-factory-activity-expands-fastest-pace-seven-years-dec-pmi-2023-12-29/)\n
            \n
            and here’s some recent mainstream media reporting on the state of the war for you to chew on\n
            \n
            - [www.nytimes.com/2024/…/ukraine-russia-war.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/13/world/europe/ukraine-russia-war.html)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defen…](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defence-minister-says-2024-01-10/)\n
            - [lepoint.fr/…/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d…](https://www.lepoint.fr/monde/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d-une-debacle-05-01-2024-2549049_24.php)\n
            - [lemonde.fr/…/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-ex…](https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2023/09/27/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-express-discontent-i-repeatedly-told-them-nato-manuals-didn-t-apply_6140349_4.html)\n
            - [spiegel.de/…/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-…](https://www.spiegel.de/politik/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-deutschen-pannen-panzern-a-cd9421ae-4a96-4d4f-983a-6205a063ae15)\n
            - [archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73](https://archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73)\n
            - [telegraph.co.uk/…/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-…](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/12/27/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-tide-war-ukraine/)\n
            - [www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/…/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/ukraine-war-victory-hopes-dim-intl/index.html)\n
            - [cbc.ca/…/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232](https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232)\n
            \n
            and here’s some analysis from military strategists for you\n
            \n
            - [www.russiamatters.org/…/whats-ahead-war-ukraine](https://www.russiamatters.org/analysis/whats-ahead-war-ukraine)\n
            - […substack.com/…/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukra…](https://mearsheimer.substack.com/p/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukraine)\n
            - [rusi.org/…/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challeng…](https://www.rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challenges-and-innovations)\n
            \n
            Russia will win this war, and the only thing the west has achieved was to help destroy Ukraine by sabotaging negotiations in 2022.
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            Russian economy is growing while the west is going into a recession. [Russian factory activity grows at fastest pace in over six years](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-factory-activity-grows-fastest-pace-over-six-years-sept-pmi-2023-10-02/), meanwhile [while US manufacturing activity shrinks the most in three years.](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-07-03/us-manufacturing-activity-shrinks-by-most-in-three-years). UK now [can’t even make steel from raw materials.](https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/jan/18/tata-steel-to-shut-down-port-talbot-blast-furnaces-3000-jobs-at-risk)\n
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            The fact that the west was deeply involved in the coup is well documented even in western media\n
            \n
            - [quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukr…](https://www.quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukraines-2014-revolution-was-due-to-a-CIA-coup) ([archive.ph/BAxYc](https://archive.ph/BAxYc))\n
            - [consortiumnews.com/…/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-i…](https://consortiumnews.com/2022/12/29/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-in-kiev/)\n
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            The foundations of my beliefs are that the west saw itself as the winner of the cold war after USSR dissolved, and decided to renege on all the promises that were made in the 90s. This created increasing tensions with Russia, and eventually led to the war we’re seeing play out in Ukraine. This is a proxy war between NATO and Russia, and it’s following the script that [was outlined by RAND](https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR3063.html).\n
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            The west made a huge miscalculation thinking that it could defeat Russia militarily and economically, and now the whole thing is starting to backfire. NATO is finding that it lacks the industrial base to sustain the conflict. Russia managed to reroute its trade away from the west, which caused immeasurable economic damage to Europe. The world outside the G7 has been increasingly aligning towards Russia and China and away from the west. This proxy war is heralding the end of the unipolar moment that US enjoyed and ushering in multipolarity.\n
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            > I have been using Google for long enough to know that it often shows us what we want to see, not that which is most likely to be correct. :)\n
            \n
            Have you considered that this might be why you still think that Ukraine is winning despite all the evidence to the contrary?\n
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            > Regarding Russian economic data you seem to be flaunting, Russia has made it hard for outside sources to verify any of it.\n
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            Every mainstream western outlet, including the IMF, agrees that Russian economy is growing. No serious economists dispute this.\n
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            > You seem to derive a lot of your opinions from mearsheimer.substack.com source but the sources the author uses to prove your points often come from rt.com which is like, the worst source for this discussion.\n
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            Mearsheimer is just one example, and he is a preeminent political scientist in the US. The reality is that there is propaganda in the west just like there is in Russia, and western media often omits covering things that RT covers. Simply dismissing information based on the source is frankly absurd.\n
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            Incidentally, Mearsheimer gave an entire lecture back in 2014 predicting the events in Ukraine that are currently unfolding, seems to me that he might know what he’s talking about [www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4)\n
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            > I will, however, refrain from posting on lemmy.ml in the future, because I can see that you are a mod of several communities on this instance and your overall conduct in this post has been rather childish and disrespectful. I feel like mods should hold themselves to a higher standard.\n
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            Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
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          +body: "After two years, it’s pretty clear that the west is not capable of doing anything of the sort. All the west managed to achieve was to ensure that hundreds of thousands of people died, and that Ukraine lost large parts of its territory in the process. We now have admissions from Ukrainian negotiators that a peace deal was close to being reached last March before the west sabotaged it."
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            The actual truth is that it’s NATO that’s been constantly expanding towards Russia. It’s also NATO that’s been invading and destroying countries since the end of USSR. Syria, Libya, and Yugoslavia being some prominent examples.\n
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            Meanwhile, Russia tried to resolve this situation diplomatically since 2008 with Minsk agreements that western leaders now openly admit were a delaying tactic by the west.\n
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            Finally, section IX of Ukraine’s 1990 Declaration of State Sovereignty states the following:\n
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            [The Ukrainian SSR solemnly declares its intention of becoming a permanently neutral state that does not participate in military blocs and adheres to three nuclear free principles: to accept, to produce and to purchase no nuclear weapons.](https://web.archive.org/web/20130615031823/https://static.rada.gov.ua/site/postanova_eng/Declaration_of_State_Sovereignty_of_Ukraine_rev1.htm)\n
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            The whole legal basis for the existence of state of Ukraine is predicated on Ukraine staying neutral and not joining military blocs. Ukraine broke the very basis of this agreement when it tried to join NATO.\n
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            Now, thanks to western “help”, Ukraine will lose far more territory than it would have if the deal was done last year, and it may even cease to exist as a state. I can’t wait for you to explain how this actually helps people of Ukraine.
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          +body: "NATO is an aggressive alliance that has invaded and destroyed numerous countries. The fact that you keep pretending that it’s a defensive alliance just shows how utterly dishonest you are."
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            > False equivalence.\n
            \n
            It’s not.\n
            \n
            > Because Russia attacked them.\n
            \n
            No, Ukraine has been engaged in atrocities in Donbas since 2014 as even western media reported at the time.\n
            \n
            > It is in fact the opposite. No neutral country stays that way for long when Russia wants it’s territory.\n
            \n
            I see you have problems with reading comprehension.\n
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            > If the West had not helped, there would be no Ukraine either. We would be condemning them to a decade of guerilla warfare and oppression. Emboldened by his victory, Putin would look further west.\n
            \n
            If the west didn’t run a coup to overthrow a democratically elected government then there would’ve been no troubles in Ukraine. Period.\n
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            > Ukrainians now fight Russia, both sides are getting exhausted and it all depends on what help Ukraine gets. Your magical peace treaty would just mean Russia trying this again in 5 years or less.\n
            \n
            That’s complete and utter nonsense, and even western media now admits this.\n
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            > You could have used the same arguments to make peace with the Nazis in 1941 and the world would only be worse for it.\n
            \n
            Now that’s what actual false equivalence looks like.
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            > Russian propaganda talking point.\n
            \n
            Ah yes, Russian propaganda point as reported by CNN back in 2014 [twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296](https://twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296)\n
            \n
            There’s even an hour long documentary from France on this [www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs)\n
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            Pretending this just didn’t happen is the height of intellectual dishonesty.\n
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            > Euromaidan was not a coup.\n
            \n
            Yes, it was and there’s overwhelming evidence for it.\n
            \n
            > Cite sources for the first point and military strategy analysts for the second.\n
            \n
            Are you just incapable of using google, I guess that would explain why you believe in nonsense. Here you go. First of all Russian economy is now rapidly growing while the west is going into a recession. This is not a country that’s showing any signs of being exhausted:\n
            \n
            - [newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-op…](https://www.newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-opinion-1861645)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-rosstat-2023-12-13/)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russian-factory-activity-expands-fa…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russian-factory-activity-expands-fastest-pace-seven-years-dec-pmi-2023-12-29/)\n
            \n
            and here’s some recent mainstream media reporting on the state of the war for you to chew on\n
            \n
            - [www.nytimes.com/2024/…/ukraine-russia-war.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/13/world/europe/ukraine-russia-war.html)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defen…](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defence-minister-says-2024-01-10/)\n
            - [lepoint.fr/…/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d…](https://www.lepoint.fr/monde/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d-une-debacle-05-01-2024-2549049_24.php)\n
            - [lemonde.fr/…/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-ex…](https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2023/09/27/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-express-discontent-i-repeatedly-told-them-nato-manuals-didn-t-apply_6140349_4.html)\n
            - [spiegel.de/…/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-…](https://www.spiegel.de/politik/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-deutschen-pannen-panzern-a-cd9421ae-4a96-4d4f-983a-6205a063ae15)\n
            - [archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73](https://archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73)\n
            - [telegraph.co.uk/…/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-…](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/12/27/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-tide-war-ukraine/)\n
            - [www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/…/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/ukraine-war-victory-hopes-dim-intl/index.html)\n
            - [cbc.ca/…/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232](https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232)\n
            \n
            and here’s some analysis from military strategists for you\n
            \n
            - [www.russiamatters.org/…/whats-ahead-war-ukraine](https://www.russiamatters.org/analysis/whats-ahead-war-ukraine)\n
            - […substack.com/…/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukra…](https://mearsheimer.substack.com/p/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukraine)\n
            - [rusi.org/…/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challeng…](https://www.rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challenges-and-innovations)\n
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            Russia will win this war, and the only thing the west has achieved was to help destroy Ukraine by sabotaging negotiations in 2022.
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          +body: "Share a source for NATO invading Yugoslavia, Libya, Syria, and Afghanistan, is that what you’re asking there little buddy?"
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            Russian economy is growing while the west is going into a recession. [Russian factory activity grows at fastest pace in over six years](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-factory-activity-grows-fastest-pace-over-six-years-sept-pmi-2023-10-02/), meanwhile [while US manufacturing activity shrinks the most in three years.](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-07-03/us-manufacturing-activity-shrinks-by-most-in-three-years). UK now [can’t even make steel from raw materials.](https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/jan/18/tata-steel-to-shut-down-port-talbot-blast-furnaces-3000-jobs-at-risk)\n
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            Yes, people still bleat about a weaker Russia. 🤡
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          +body: "Here’s an idea go sign up as a volunteer in Ukraine and fight yourself instead of cheering on for other people to die for you, you disgusting sack of shit."
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            The fact that the west was deeply involved in the coup is well documented even in western media\n
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            - [quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukr…](https://www.quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukraines-2014-revolution-was-due-to-a-CIA-coup) ([archive.ph/BAxYc](https://archive.ph/BAxYc))\n
            - [consortiumnews.com/…/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-i…](https://consortiumnews.com/2022/12/29/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-in-kiev/)\n
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            The foundations of my beliefs are that the west saw itself as the winner of the cold war after USSR dissolved, and decided to renege on all the promises that were made in the 90s. This created increasing tensions with Russia, and eventually led to the war we’re seeing play out in Ukraine. This is a proxy war between NATO and Russia, and it’s following the script that [was outlined by RAND](https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR3063.html).\n
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            The west made a huge miscalculation thinking that it could defeat Russia militarily and economically, and now the whole thing is starting to backfire. NATO is finding that it lacks the industrial base to sustain the conflict. Russia managed to reroute its trade away from the west, which caused immeasurable economic damage to Europe. The world outside the G7 has been increasingly aligning towards Russia and China and away from the west. This proxy war is heralding the end of the unipolar moment that US enjoyed and ushering in multipolarity.\n
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            > I have been using Google for long enough to know that it often shows us what we want to see, not that which is most likely to be correct. :)\n
            \n
            Have you considered that this might be why you still think that Ukraine is winning despite all the evidence to the contrary?\n
            \n
            > Regarding Russian economic data you seem to be flaunting, Russia has made it hard for outside sources to verify any of it.\n
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            Every mainstream western outlet, including the IMF, agrees that Russian economy is growing. No serious economists dispute this.\n
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            > You seem to derive a lot of your opinions from mearsheimer.substack.com source but the sources the author uses to prove your points often come from rt.com which is like, the worst source for this discussion.\n
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            Mearsheimer is just one example, and he is a preeminent political scientist in the US. The reality is that there is propaganda in the west just like there is in Russia, and western media often omits covering things that RT covers. Simply dismissing information based on the source is frankly absurd.\n
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            Incidentally, Mearsheimer gave an entire lecture back in 2014 predicting the events in Ukraine that are currently unfolding, seems to me that he might know what he’s talking about [www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4)\n
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            > I will, however, refrain from posting on lemmy.ml in the future, because I can see that you are a mod of several communities on this instance and your overall conduct in this post has been rather childish and disrespectful. I feel like mods should hold themselves to a higher standard.\n
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            Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
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            The actual truth is that it’s NATO that’s been constantly expanding towards Russia. It’s also NATO that’s been invading and destroying countries since the end of USSR. Syria, Libya, and Yugoslavia being some prominent examples.\n
            \n
            Meanwhile, Russia tried to resolve this situation diplomatically since 2008 with Minsk agreements that western leaders now openly admit were a delaying tactic by the west.\n
            \n
            Finally, section IX of Ukraine’s 1990 Declaration of State Sovereignty states the following:\n
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            [The Ukrainian SSR solemnly declares its intention of becoming a permanently neutral state that does not participate in military blocs and adheres to three nuclear free principles: to accept, to produce and to purchase no nuclear weapons.](https://web.archive.org/web/20130615031823/https://static.rada.gov.ua/site/postanova_eng/Declaration_of_State_Sovereignty_of_Ukraine_rev1.htm)\n
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            The whole legal basis for the existence of state of Ukraine is predicated on Ukraine staying neutral and not joining military blocs. Ukraine broke the very basis of this agreement when it tried to join NATO.\n
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            Now, thanks to western “help”, Ukraine will lose far more territory than it would have if the deal was done last year, and it may even cease to exist as a state. I can’t wait for you to explain how this actually helps people of Ukraine.
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          +body: "NATO is an aggressive alliance that has invaded and destroyed numerous countries. The fact that you keep pretending that it’s a defensive alliance just shows how utterly dishonest you are."
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            > False equivalence.\n
            \n
            It’s not.\n
            \n
            > Because Russia attacked them.\n
            \n
            No, Ukraine has been engaged in atrocities in Donbas since 2014 as even western media reported at the time.\n
            \n
            > It is in fact the opposite. No neutral country stays that way for long when Russia wants it’s territory.\n
            \n
            I see you have problems with reading comprehension.\n
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            > If the West had not helped, there would be no Ukraine either. We would be condemning them to a decade of guerilla warfare and oppression. Emboldened by his victory, Putin would look further west.\n
            \n
            If the west didn’t run a coup to overthrow a democratically elected government then there would’ve been no troubles in Ukraine. Period.\n
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            > Ukrainians now fight Russia, both sides are getting exhausted and it all depends on what help Ukraine gets. Your magical peace treaty would just mean Russia trying this again in 5 years or less.\n
            \n
            That’s complete and utter nonsense, and even western media now admits this.\n
            \n
            > You could have used the same arguments to make peace with the Nazis in 1941 and the world would only be worse for it.\n
            \n
            Now that’s what actual false equivalence looks like.
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            > Russian propaganda talking point.\n
            \n
            Ah yes, Russian propaganda point as reported by CNN back in 2014 [twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296](https://twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296)\n
            \n
            There’s even an hour long documentary from France on this [www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs)\n
            \n
            Pretending this just didn’t happen is the height of intellectual dishonesty.\n
            \n
            > Euromaidan was not a coup.\n
            \n
            Yes, it was and there’s overwhelming evidence for it.\n
            \n
            > Cite sources for the first point and military strategy analysts for the second.\n
            \n
            Are you just incapable of using google, I guess that would explain why you believe in nonsense. Here you go. First of all Russian economy is now rapidly growing while the west is going into a recession. This is not a country that’s showing any signs of being exhausted:\n
            \n
            - [newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-op…](https://www.newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-opinion-1861645)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-rosstat-2023-12-13/)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russian-factory-activity-expands-fa…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russian-factory-activity-expands-fastest-pace-seven-years-dec-pmi-2023-12-29/)\n
            \n
            and here’s some recent mainstream media reporting on the state of the war for you to chew on\n
            \n
            - [www.nytimes.com/2024/…/ukraine-russia-war.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/13/world/europe/ukraine-russia-war.html)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defen…](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defence-minister-says-2024-01-10/)\n
            - [lepoint.fr/…/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d…](https://www.lepoint.fr/monde/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d-une-debacle-05-01-2024-2549049_24.php)\n
            - [lemonde.fr/…/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-ex…](https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2023/09/27/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-express-discontent-i-repeatedly-told-them-nato-manuals-didn-t-apply_6140349_4.html)\n
            - [spiegel.de/…/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-…](https://www.spiegel.de/politik/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-deutschen-pannen-panzern-a-cd9421ae-4a96-4d4f-983a-6205a063ae15)\n
            - [archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73](https://archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73)\n
            - [telegraph.co.uk/…/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-…](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/12/27/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-tide-war-ukraine/)\n
            - [www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/…/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/ukraine-war-victory-hopes-dim-intl/index.html)\n
            - [cbc.ca/…/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232](https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232)\n
            \n
            and here’s some analysis from military strategists for you\n
            \n
            - [www.russiamatters.org/…/whats-ahead-war-ukraine](https://www.russiamatters.org/analysis/whats-ahead-war-ukraine)\n
            - […substack.com/…/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukra…](https://mearsheimer.substack.com/p/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukraine)\n
            - [rusi.org/…/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challeng…](https://www.rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challenges-and-innovations)\n
            \n
            Russia will win this war, and the only thing the west has achieved was to help destroy Ukraine by sabotaging negotiations in 2022.
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          +body: "Share a source for NATO invading Yugoslavia, Libya, Syria, and Afghanistan, is that what you’re asking there little buddy?"
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          +body: "No, I’m saying that anybody can type in words NATO and Yugoslavia or NATO and Libya into Google and see that you’re a liar."
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            Russian economy is growing while the west is going into a recession. [Russian factory activity grows at fastest pace in over six years](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-factory-activity-grows-fastest-pace-over-six-years-sept-pmi-2023-10-02/), meanwhile [while US manufacturing activity shrinks the most in three years.](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-07-03/us-manufacturing-activity-shrinks-by-most-in-three-years). UK now [can’t even make steel from raw materials.](https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/jan/18/tata-steel-to-shut-down-port-talbot-blast-furnaces-3000-jobs-at-risk)\n
            \n
            Yes, people still bleat about a weaker Russia. 🤡
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          +body: "Here’s an idea go sign up as a volunteer in Ukraine and fight yourself instead of cheering on for other people to die for you, you disgusting sack of shit."
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            The fact that the west was deeply involved in the coup is well documented even in western media\n
            \n
            - [quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukr…](https://www.quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukraines-2014-revolution-was-due-to-a-CIA-coup) ([archive.ph/BAxYc](https://archive.ph/BAxYc))\n
            - [consortiumnews.com/…/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-i…](https://consortiumnews.com/2022/12/29/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-in-kiev/)\n
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            The foundations of my beliefs are that the west saw itself as the winner of the cold war after USSR dissolved, and decided to renege on all the promises that were made in the 90s. This created increasing tensions with Russia, and eventually led to the war we’re seeing play out in Ukraine. This is a proxy war between NATO and Russia, and it’s following the script that [was outlined by RAND](https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR3063.html).\n
            \n
            The west made a huge miscalculation thinking that it could defeat Russia militarily and economically, and now the whole thing is starting to backfire. NATO is finding that it lacks the industrial base to sustain the conflict. Russia managed to reroute its trade away from the west, which caused immeasurable economic damage to Europe. The world outside the G7 has been increasingly aligning towards Russia and China and away from the west. This proxy war is heralding the end of the unipolar moment that US enjoyed and ushering in multipolarity.\n
            \n
            > I have been using Google for long enough to know that it often shows us what we want to see, not that which is most likely to be correct. :)\n
            \n
            Have you considered that this might be why you still think that Ukraine is winning despite all the evidence to the contrary?\n
            \n
            > Regarding Russian economic data you seem to be flaunting, Russia has made it hard for outside sources to verify any of it.\n
            \n
            Every mainstream western outlet, including the IMF, agrees that Russian economy is growing. No serious economists dispute this.\n
            \n
            > You seem to derive a lot of your opinions from mearsheimer.substack.com source but the sources the author uses to prove your points often come from rt.com which is like, the worst source for this discussion.\n
            \n
            Mearsheimer is just one example, and he is a preeminent political scientist in the US. The reality is that there is propaganda in the west just like there is in Russia, and western media often omits covering things that RT covers. Simply dismissing information based on the source is frankly absurd.\n
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            Incidentally, Mearsheimer gave an entire lecture back in 2014 predicting the events in Ukraine that are currently unfolding, seems to me that he might know what he’s talking about [www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4)\n
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            > I will, however, refrain from posting on lemmy.ml in the future, because I can see that you are a mod of several communities on this instance and your overall conduct in this post has been rather childish and disrespectful. I feel like mods should hold themselves to a higher standard.\n
            \n
            Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
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          +body: "NATO is an aggressive alliance that has invaded and destroyed numerous countries. The fact that you keep pretending that it’s a defensive alliance just shows how utterly dishonest you are."
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            > False equivalence.\n
            \n
            It’s not.\n
            \n
            > Because Russia attacked them.\n
            \n
            No, Ukraine has been engaged in atrocities in Donbas since 2014 as even western media reported at the time.\n
            \n
            > It is in fact the opposite. No neutral country stays that way for long when Russia wants it’s territory.\n
            \n
            I see you have problems with reading comprehension.\n
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            > If the West had not helped, there would be no Ukraine either. We would be condemning them to a decade of guerilla warfare and oppression. Emboldened by his victory, Putin would look further west.\n
            \n
            If the west didn’t run a coup to overthrow a democratically elected government then there would’ve been no troubles in Ukraine. Period.\n
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            > Ukrainians now fight Russia, both sides are getting exhausted and it all depends on what help Ukraine gets. Your magical peace treaty would just mean Russia trying this again in 5 years or less.\n
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            That’s complete and utter nonsense, and even western media now admits this.\n
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            > You could have used the same arguments to make peace with the Nazis in 1941 and the world would only be worse for it.\n
            \n
            Now that’s what actual false equivalence looks like.
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            > Russian propaganda talking point.\n
            \n
            Ah yes, Russian propaganda point as reported by CNN back in 2014 [twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296](https://twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296)\n
            \n
            There’s even an hour long documentary from France on this [www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs)\n
            \n
            Pretending this just didn’t happen is the height of intellectual dishonesty.\n
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            > Euromaidan was not a coup.\n
            \n
            Yes, it was and there’s overwhelming evidence for it.\n
            \n
            > Cite sources for the first point and military strategy analysts for the second.\n
            \n
            Are you just incapable of using google, I guess that would explain why you believe in nonsense. Here you go. First of all Russian economy is now rapidly growing while the west is going into a recession. This is not a country that’s showing any signs of being exhausted:\n
            \n
            - [newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-op…](https://www.newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-opinion-1861645)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-rosstat-2023-12-13/)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russian-factory-activity-expands-fa…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russian-factory-activity-expands-fastest-pace-seven-years-dec-pmi-2023-12-29/)\n
            \n
            and here’s some recent mainstream media reporting on the state of the war for you to chew on\n
            \n
            - [www.nytimes.com/2024/…/ukraine-russia-war.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/13/world/europe/ukraine-russia-war.html)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defen…](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defence-minister-says-2024-01-10/)\n
            - [lepoint.fr/…/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d…](https://www.lepoint.fr/monde/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d-une-debacle-05-01-2024-2549049_24.php)\n
            - [lemonde.fr/…/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-ex…](https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2023/09/27/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-express-discontent-i-repeatedly-told-them-nato-manuals-didn-t-apply_6140349_4.html)\n
            - [spiegel.de/…/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-…](https://www.spiegel.de/politik/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-deutschen-pannen-panzern-a-cd9421ae-4a96-4d4f-983a-6205a063ae15)\n
            - [archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73](https://archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73)\n
            - [telegraph.co.uk/…/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-…](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/12/27/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-tide-war-ukraine/)\n
            - [www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/…/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/ukraine-war-victory-hopes-dim-intl/index.html)\n
            - [cbc.ca/…/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232](https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232)\n
            \n
            and here’s some analysis from military strategists for you\n
            \n
            - [www.russiamatters.org/…/whats-ahead-war-ukraine](https://www.russiamatters.org/analysis/whats-ahead-war-ukraine)\n
            - […substack.com/…/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukra…](https://mearsheimer.substack.com/p/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukraine)\n
            - [rusi.org/…/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challeng…](https://www.rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challenges-and-innovations)\n
            \n
            Russia will win this war, and the only thing the west has achieved was to help destroy Ukraine by sabotaging negotiations in 2022.
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          +body: "Share a source for NATO invading Yugoslavia, Libya, Syria, and Afghanistan, is that what you’re asking there little buddy?"
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          +body: "No, I’m saying that anybody can type in words NATO and Yugoslavia or NATO and Libya into Google and see that you’re a liar."
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            Russian economy is growing while the west is going into a recession. [Russian factory activity grows at fastest pace in over six years](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-factory-activity-grows-fastest-pace-over-six-years-sept-pmi-2023-10-02/), meanwhile [while US manufacturing activity shrinks the most in three years.](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-07-03/us-manufacturing-activity-shrinks-by-most-in-three-years). UK now [can’t even make steel from raw materials.](https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/jan/18/tata-steel-to-shut-down-port-talbot-blast-furnaces-3000-jobs-at-risk)\n
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            Yes, people still bleat about a weaker Russia. 🤡
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      The fact that the west was deeply involved in the coup is well documented even in western media\n
      \n
      - [quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukr…](https://www.quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukraines-2014-revolution-was-due-to-a-CIA-coup) ([archive.ph/BAxYc](https://archive.ph/BAxYc))\n
      - [consortiumnews.com/…/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-i…](https://consortiumnews.com/2022/12/29/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-in-kiev/)\n
      \n
      The foundations of my beliefs are that the west saw itself as the winner of the cold war after USSR dissolved, and decided to renege on all the promises that were made in the 90s. This created increasing tensions with Russia, and eventually led to the war we’re seeing play out in Ukraine. This is a proxy war between NATO and Russia, and it’s following the script that [was outlined by RAND](https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR3063.html).\n
      \n
      The west made a huge miscalculation thinking that it could defeat Russia militarily and economically, and now the whole thing is starting to backfire. NATO is finding that it lacks the industrial base to sustain the conflict. Russia managed to reroute its trade away from the west, which caused immeasurable economic damage to Europe. The world outside the G7 has been increasingly aligning towards Russia and China and away from the west. This proxy war is heralding the end of the unipolar moment that US enjoyed and ushering in multipolarity.\n
      \n
      > I have been using Google for long enough to know that it often shows us what we want to see, not that which is most likely to be correct. :)\n
      \n
      Have you considered that this might be why you still think that Ukraine is winning despite all the evidence to the contrary?\n
      \n
      > Regarding Russian economic data you seem to be flaunting, Russia has made it hard for outside sources to verify any of it.\n
      \n
      Every mainstream western outlet, including the IMF, agrees that Russian economy is growing. No serious economists dispute this.\n
      \n
      > You seem to derive a lot of your opinions from mearsheimer.substack.com source but the sources the author uses to prove your points often come from rt.com which is like, the worst source for this discussion.\n
      \n
      Mearsheimer is just one example, and he is a preeminent political scientist in the US. The reality is that there is propaganda in the west just like there is in Russia, and western media often omits covering things that RT covers. Simply dismissing information based on the source is frankly absurd.\n
      \n
      Incidentally, Mearsheimer gave an entire lecture back in 2014 predicting the events in Ukraine that are currently unfolding, seems to me that he might know what he’s talking about [www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4)\n
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      > I will, however, refrain from posting on lemmy.ml in the future, because I can see that you are a mod of several communities on this instance and your overall conduct in this post has been rather childish and disrespectful. I feel like mods should hold themselves to a higher standard.\n
      \n
      Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
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          +body: "After two years, it’s pretty clear that the west is not capable of doing anything of the sort. All the west managed to achieve was to ensure that hundreds of thousands of people died, and that Ukraine lost large parts of its territory in the process. We now have admissions from Ukrainian negotiators that a peace deal was close to being reached last March before the west sabotaged it."
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            The actual truth is that it’s NATO that’s been constantly expanding towards Russia. It’s also NATO that’s been invading and destroying countries since the end of USSR. Syria, Libya, and Yugoslavia being some prominent examples.\n
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            Meanwhile, Russia tried to resolve this situation diplomatically since 2008 with Minsk agreements that western leaders now openly admit were a delaying tactic by the west.\n
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          +body: "NATO is an aggressive alliance that has invaded and destroyed numerous countries. The fact that you keep pretending that it’s a defensive alliance just shows how utterly dishonest you are."
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            > False equivalence.\n
            \n
            It’s not.\n
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            > Because Russia attacked them.\n
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            No, Ukraine has been engaged in atrocities in Donbas since 2014 as even western media reported at the time.\n
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            > It is in fact the opposite. No neutral country stays that way for long when Russia wants it’s territory.\n
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            I see you have problems with reading comprehension.\n
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            If the west didn’t run a coup to overthrow a democratically elected government then there would’ve been no troubles in Ukraine. Period.\n
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            That’s complete and utter nonsense, and even western media now admits this.\n
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            > You could have used the same arguments to make peace with the Nazis in 1941 and the world would only be worse for it.\n
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            Now that’s what actual false equivalence looks like.
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            > Russian propaganda talking point.\n
            \n
            Ah yes, Russian propaganda point as reported by CNN back in 2014 [twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296](https://twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296)\n
            \n
            There’s even an hour long documentary from France on this [www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs)\n
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            Pretending this just didn’t happen is the height of intellectual dishonesty.\n
            \n
            > Euromaidan was not a coup.\n
            \n
            Yes, it was and there’s overwhelming evidence for it.\n
            \n
            > Cite sources for the first point and military strategy analysts for the second.\n
            \n
            Are you just incapable of using google, I guess that would explain why you believe in nonsense. Here you go. First of all Russian economy is now rapidly growing while the west is going into a recession. This is not a country that’s showing any signs of being exhausted:\n
            \n
            - [newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-op…](https://www.newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-opinion-1861645)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-rosstat-2023-12-13/)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russian-factory-activity-expands-fa…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russian-factory-activity-expands-fastest-pace-seven-years-dec-pmi-2023-12-29/)\n
            \n
            and here’s some recent mainstream media reporting on the state of the war for you to chew on\n
            \n
            - [www.nytimes.com/2024/…/ukraine-russia-war.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/13/world/europe/ukraine-russia-war.html)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defen…](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defence-minister-says-2024-01-10/)\n
            - [lepoint.fr/…/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d…](https://www.lepoint.fr/monde/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d-une-debacle-05-01-2024-2549049_24.php)\n
            - [lemonde.fr/…/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-ex…](https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2023/09/27/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-express-discontent-i-repeatedly-told-them-nato-manuals-didn-t-apply_6140349_4.html)\n
            - [spiegel.de/…/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-…](https://www.spiegel.de/politik/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-deutschen-pannen-panzern-a-cd9421ae-4a96-4d4f-983a-6205a063ae15)\n
            - [archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73](https://archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73)\n
            - [telegraph.co.uk/…/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-…](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/12/27/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-tide-war-ukraine/)\n
            - [www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/…/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/ukraine-war-victory-hopes-dim-intl/index.html)\n
            - [cbc.ca/…/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232](https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232)\n
            \n
            and here’s some analysis from military strategists for you\n
            \n
            - [www.russiamatters.org/…/whats-ahead-war-ukraine](https://www.russiamatters.org/analysis/whats-ahead-war-ukraine)\n
            - […substack.com/…/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukra…](https://mearsheimer.substack.com/p/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukraine)\n
            - [rusi.org/…/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challeng…](https://www.rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challenges-and-innovations)\n
            \n
            Russia will win this war, and the only thing the west has achieved was to help destroy Ukraine by sabotaging negotiations in 2022.
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            Russian economy is growing while the west is going into a recession. [Russian factory activity grows at fastest pace in over six years](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-factory-activity-grows-fastest-pace-over-six-years-sept-pmi-2023-10-02/), meanwhile [while US manufacturing activity shrinks the most in three years.](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-07-03/us-manufacturing-activity-shrinks-by-most-in-three-years). UK now [can’t even make steel from raw materials.](https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/jan/18/tata-steel-to-shut-down-port-talbot-blast-furnaces-3000-jobs-at-risk)\n
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      The fact that the west was deeply involved in the coup is well documented even in western media\n
      \n
      - [quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukr…](https://www.quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukraines-2014-revolution-was-due-to-a-CIA-coup) ([archive.ph/BAxYc](https://archive.ph/BAxYc))\n
      - [consortiumnews.com/…/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-i…](https://consortiumnews.com/2022/12/29/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-in-kiev/)\n
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      The foundations of my beliefs are that the west saw itself as the winner of the cold war after USSR dissolved, and decided to renege on all the promises that were made in the 90s. This created increasing tensions with Russia, and eventually led to the war we’re seeing play out in Ukraine. This is a proxy war between NATO and Russia, and it’s following the script that [was outlined by RAND](https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR3063.html).\n
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      The west made a huge miscalculation thinking that it could defeat Russia militarily and economically, and now the whole thing is starting to backfire. NATO is finding that it lacks the industrial base to sustain the conflict. Russia managed to reroute its trade away from the west, which caused immeasurable economic damage to Europe. The world outside the G7 has been increasingly aligning towards Russia and China and away from the west. This proxy war is heralding the end of the unipolar moment that US enjoyed and ushering in multipolarity.\n
      \n
      > I have been using Google for long enough to know that it often shows us what we want to see, not that which is most likely to be correct. :)\n
      \n
      Have you considered that this might be why you still think that Ukraine is winning despite all the evidence to the contrary?\n
      \n
      > Regarding Russian economic data you seem to be flaunting, Russia has made it hard for outside sources to verify any of it.\n
      \n
      Every mainstream western outlet, including the IMF, agrees that Russian economy is growing. No serious economists dispute this.\n
      \n
      > You seem to derive a lot of your opinions from mearsheimer.substack.com source but the sources the author uses to prove your points often come from rt.com which is like, the worst source for this discussion.\n
      \n
      Mearsheimer is just one example, and he is a preeminent political scientist in the US. The reality is that there is propaganda in the west just like there is in Russia, and western media often omits covering things that RT covers. Simply dismissing information based on the source is frankly absurd.\n
      \n
      Incidentally, Mearsheimer gave an entire lecture back in 2014 predicting the events in Ukraine that are currently unfolding, seems to me that he might know what he’s talking about [www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4)\n
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      > I will, however, refrain from posting on lemmy.ml in the future, because I can see that you are a mod of several communities on this instance and your overall conduct in this post has been rather childish and disrespectful. I feel like mods should hold themselves to a higher standard.\n
      \n
      Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
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          +body: "After two years, it’s pretty clear that the west is not capable of doing anything of the sort. All the west managed to achieve was to ensure that hundreds of thousands of people died, and that Ukraine lost large parts of its territory in the process. We now have admissions from Ukrainian negotiators that a peace deal was close to being reached last March before the west sabotaged it."
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            The actual truth is that it’s NATO that’s been constantly expanding towards Russia. It’s also NATO that’s been invading and destroying countries since the end of USSR. Syria, Libya, and Yugoslavia being some prominent examples.\n
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            Meanwhile, Russia tried to resolve this situation diplomatically since 2008 with Minsk agreements that western leaders now openly admit were a delaying tactic by the west.\n
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            Finally, section IX of Ukraine’s 1990 Declaration of State Sovereignty states the following:\n
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            [The Ukrainian SSR solemnly declares its intention of becoming a permanently neutral state that does not participate in military blocs and adheres to three nuclear free principles: to accept, to produce and to purchase no nuclear weapons.](https://web.archive.org/web/20130615031823/https://static.rada.gov.ua/site/postanova_eng/Declaration_of_State_Sovereignty_of_Ukraine_rev1.htm)\n
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            The whole legal basis for the existence of state of Ukraine is predicated on Ukraine staying neutral and not joining military blocs. Ukraine broke the very basis of this agreement when it tried to join NATO.\n
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            Now, thanks to western “help”, Ukraine will lose far more territory than it would have if the deal was done last year, and it may even cease to exist as a state. I can’t wait for you to explain how this actually helps people of Ukraine.
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          +body: "NATO is an aggressive alliance that has invaded and destroyed numerous countries. The fact that you keep pretending that it’s a defensive alliance just shows how utterly dishonest you are."
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            > False equivalence.\n
            \n
            It’s not.\n
            \n
            > Because Russia attacked them.\n
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            No, Ukraine has been engaged in atrocities in Donbas since 2014 as even western media reported at the time.\n
            \n
            > It is in fact the opposite. No neutral country stays that way for long when Russia wants it’s territory.\n
            \n
            I see you have problems with reading comprehension.\n
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            > If the West had not helped, there would be no Ukraine either. We would be condemning them to a decade of guerilla warfare and oppression. Emboldened by his victory, Putin would look further west.\n
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            If the west didn’t run a coup to overthrow a democratically elected government then there would’ve been no troubles in Ukraine. Period.\n
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            > Ukrainians now fight Russia, both sides are getting exhausted and it all depends on what help Ukraine gets. Your magical peace treaty would just mean Russia trying this again in 5 years or less.\n
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            That’s complete and utter nonsense, and even western media now admits this.\n
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            > You could have used the same arguments to make peace with the Nazis in 1941 and the world would only be worse for it.\n
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            Now that’s what actual false equivalence looks like.
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            > Russian propaganda talking point.\n
            \n
            Ah yes, Russian propaganda point as reported by CNN back in 2014 [twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296](https://twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296)\n
            \n
            There’s even an hour long documentary from France on this [www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs)\n
            \n
            Pretending this just didn’t happen is the height of intellectual dishonesty.\n
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            > Euromaidan was not a coup.\n
            \n
            Yes, it was and there’s overwhelming evidence for it.\n
            \n
            > Cite sources for the first point and military strategy analysts for the second.\n
            \n
            Are you just incapable of using google, I guess that would explain why you believe in nonsense. Here you go. First of all Russian economy is now rapidly growing while the west is going into a recession. This is not a country that’s showing any signs of being exhausted:\n
            \n
            - [newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-op…](https://www.newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-opinion-1861645)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-rosstat-2023-12-13/)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russian-factory-activity-expands-fa…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russian-factory-activity-expands-fastest-pace-seven-years-dec-pmi-2023-12-29/)\n
            \n
            and here’s some recent mainstream media reporting on the state of the war for you to chew on\n
            \n
            - [www.nytimes.com/2024/…/ukraine-russia-war.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/13/world/europe/ukraine-russia-war.html)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defen…](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defence-minister-says-2024-01-10/)\n
            - [lepoint.fr/…/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d…](https://www.lepoint.fr/monde/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d-une-debacle-05-01-2024-2549049_24.php)\n
            - [lemonde.fr/…/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-ex…](https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2023/09/27/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-express-discontent-i-repeatedly-told-them-nato-manuals-didn-t-apply_6140349_4.html)\n
            - [spiegel.de/…/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-…](https://www.spiegel.de/politik/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-deutschen-pannen-panzern-a-cd9421ae-4a96-4d4f-983a-6205a063ae15)\n
            - [archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73](https://archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73)\n
            - [telegraph.co.uk/…/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-…](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/12/27/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-tide-war-ukraine/)\n
            - [www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/…/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/ukraine-war-victory-hopes-dim-intl/index.html)\n
            - [cbc.ca/…/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232](https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232)\n
            \n
            and here’s some analysis from military strategists for you\n
            \n
            - [www.russiamatters.org/…/whats-ahead-war-ukraine](https://www.russiamatters.org/analysis/whats-ahead-war-ukraine)\n
            - […substack.com/…/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukra…](https://mearsheimer.substack.com/p/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukraine)\n
            - [rusi.org/…/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challeng…](https://www.rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challenges-and-innovations)\n
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            Russia will win this war, and the only thing the west has achieved was to help destroy Ukraine by sabotaging negotiations in 2022.
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          +body: "Share a source for NATO invading Yugoslavia, Libya, Syria, and Afghanistan, is that what you’re asking there little buddy?"
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            Russian economy is growing while the west is going into a recession. [Russian factory activity grows at fastest pace in over six years](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-factory-activity-grows-fastest-pace-over-six-years-sept-pmi-2023-10-02/), meanwhile [while US manufacturing activity shrinks the most in three years.](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-07-03/us-manufacturing-activity-shrinks-by-most-in-three-years). UK now [can’t even make steel from raw materials.](https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/jan/18/tata-steel-to-shut-down-port-talbot-blast-furnaces-3000-jobs-at-risk)\n
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            Yes, people still bleat about a weaker Russia. 🤡
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          +body: "Here’s an idea go sign up as a volunteer in Ukraine and fight yourself instead of cheering on for other people to die for you, you disgusting sack of shit."
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      The fact that the west was deeply involved in the coup is well documented even in western media\n
      \n
      - [quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukr…](https://www.quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukraines-2014-revolution-was-due-to-a-CIA-coup) ([archive.ph/BAxYc](https://archive.ph/BAxYc))\n
      - [consortiumnews.com/…/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-i…](https://consortiumnews.com/2022/12/29/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-in-kiev/)\n
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      The foundations of my beliefs are that the west saw itself as the winner of the cold war after USSR dissolved, and decided to renege on all the promises that were made in the 90s. This created increasing tensions with Russia, and eventually led to the war we’re seeing play out in Ukraine. This is a proxy war between NATO and Russia, and it’s following the script that [was outlined by RAND](https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR3063.html).\n
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      The west made a huge miscalculation thinking that it could defeat Russia militarily and economically, and now the whole thing is starting to backfire. NATO is finding that it lacks the industrial base to sustain the conflict. Russia managed to reroute its trade away from the west, which caused immeasurable economic damage to Europe. The world outside the G7 has been increasingly aligning towards Russia and China and away from the west. This proxy war is heralding the end of the unipolar moment that US enjoyed and ushering in multipolarity.\n
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      > I have been using Google for long enough to know that it often shows us what we want to see, not that which is most likely to be correct. :)\n
      \n
      Have you considered that this might be why you still think that Ukraine is winning despite all the evidence to the contrary?\n
      \n
      > Regarding Russian economic data you seem to be flaunting, Russia has made it hard for outside sources to verify any of it.\n
      \n
      Every mainstream western outlet, including the IMF, agrees that Russian economy is growing. No serious economists dispute this.\n
      \n
      > You seem to derive a lot of your opinions from mearsheimer.substack.com source but the sources the author uses to prove your points often come from rt.com which is like, the worst source for this discussion.\n
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      Mearsheimer is just one example, and he is a preeminent political scientist in the US. The reality is that there is propaganda in the west just like there is in Russia, and western media often omits covering things that RT covers. Simply dismissing information based on the source is frankly absurd.\n
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      Incidentally, Mearsheimer gave an entire lecture back in 2014 predicting the events in Ukraine that are currently unfolding, seems to me that he might know what he’s talking about [www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4)\n
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      > I will, however, refrain from posting on lemmy.ml in the future, because I can see that you are a mod of several communities on this instance and your overall conduct in this post has been rather childish and disrespectful. I feel like mods should hold themselves to a higher standard.\n
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      Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
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            The actual truth is that it’s NATO that’s been constantly expanding towards Russia. It’s also NATO that’s been invading and destroying countries since the end of USSR. Syria, Libya, and Yugoslavia being some prominent examples.\n
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          +body: "NATO is an aggressive alliance that has invaded and destroyed numerous countries. The fact that you keep pretending that it’s a defensive alliance just shows how utterly dishonest you are."
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            > False equivalence.\n
            \n
            It’s not.\n
            \n
            > Because Russia attacked them.\n
            \n
            No, Ukraine has been engaged in atrocities in Donbas since 2014 as even western media reported at the time.\n
            \n
            > It is in fact the opposite. No neutral country stays that way for long when Russia wants it’s territory.\n
            \n
            I see you have problems with reading comprehension.\n
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            > If the West had not helped, there would be no Ukraine either. We would be condemning them to a decade of guerilla warfare and oppression. Emboldened by his victory, Putin would look further west.\n
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            If the west didn’t run a coup to overthrow a democratically elected government then there would’ve been no troubles in Ukraine. Period.\n
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            > Ukrainians now fight Russia, both sides are getting exhausted and it all depends on what help Ukraine gets. Your magical peace treaty would just mean Russia trying this again in 5 years or less.\n
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            That’s complete and utter nonsense, and even western media now admits this.\n
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            > You could have used the same arguments to make peace with the Nazis in 1941 and the world would only be worse for it.\n
            \n
            Now that’s what actual false equivalence looks like.
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            > Russian propaganda talking point.\n
            \n
            Ah yes, Russian propaganda point as reported by CNN back in 2014 [twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296](https://twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296)\n
            \n
            There’s even an hour long documentary from France on this [www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs)\n
            \n
            Pretending this just didn’t happen is the height of intellectual dishonesty.\n
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            > Euromaidan was not a coup.\n
            \n
            Yes, it was and there’s overwhelming evidence for it.\n
            \n
            > Cite sources for the first point and military strategy analysts for the second.\n
            \n
            Are you just incapable of using google, I guess that would explain why you believe in nonsense. Here you go. First of all Russian economy is now rapidly growing while the west is going into a recession. This is not a country that’s showing any signs of being exhausted:\n
            \n
            - [newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-op…](https://www.newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-opinion-1861645)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-rosstat-2023-12-13/)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russian-factory-activity-expands-fa…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russian-factory-activity-expands-fastest-pace-seven-years-dec-pmi-2023-12-29/)\n
            \n
            and here’s some recent mainstream media reporting on the state of the war for you to chew on\n
            \n
            - [www.nytimes.com/2024/…/ukraine-russia-war.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/13/world/europe/ukraine-russia-war.html)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defen…](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defence-minister-says-2024-01-10/)\n
            - [lepoint.fr/…/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d…](https://www.lepoint.fr/monde/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d-une-debacle-05-01-2024-2549049_24.php)\n
            - [lemonde.fr/…/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-ex…](https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2023/09/27/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-express-discontent-i-repeatedly-told-them-nato-manuals-didn-t-apply_6140349_4.html)\n
            - [spiegel.de/…/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-…](https://www.spiegel.de/politik/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-deutschen-pannen-panzern-a-cd9421ae-4a96-4d4f-983a-6205a063ae15)\n
            - [archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73](https://archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73)\n
            - [telegraph.co.uk/…/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-…](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/12/27/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-tide-war-ukraine/)\n
            - [www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/…/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/ukraine-war-victory-hopes-dim-intl/index.html)\n
            - [cbc.ca/…/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232](https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232)\n
            \n
            and here’s some analysis from military strategists for you\n
            \n
            - [www.russiamatters.org/…/whats-ahead-war-ukraine](https://www.russiamatters.org/analysis/whats-ahead-war-ukraine)\n
            - […substack.com/…/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukra…](https://mearsheimer.substack.com/p/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukraine)\n
            - [rusi.org/…/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challeng…](https://www.rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challenges-and-innovations)\n
            \n
            Russia will win this war, and the only thing the west has achieved was to help destroy Ukraine by sabotaging negotiations in 2022.
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          +body: "Share a source for NATO invading Yugoslavia, Libya, Syria, and Afghanistan, is that what you’re asking there little buddy?"
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          +body: "No, I’m saying that anybody can type in words NATO and Yugoslavia or NATO and Libya into Google and see that you’re a liar."
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            Russian economy is growing while the west is going into a recession. [Russian factory activity grows at fastest pace in over six years](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-factory-activity-grows-fastest-pace-over-six-years-sept-pmi-2023-10-02/), meanwhile [while US manufacturing activity shrinks the most in three years.](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-07-03/us-manufacturing-activity-shrinks-by-most-in-three-years). UK now [can’t even make steel from raw materials.](https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/jan/18/tata-steel-to-shut-down-port-talbot-blast-furnaces-3000-jobs-at-risk)\n
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            Yes, people still bleat about a weaker Russia. 🤡
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      The fact that the west was deeply involved in the coup is well documented even in western media\n
      \n
      - [quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukr…](https://www.quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukraines-2014-revolution-was-due-to-a-CIA-coup) ([archive.ph/BAxYc](https://archive.ph/BAxYc))\n
      - [consortiumnews.com/…/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-i…](https://consortiumnews.com/2022/12/29/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-in-kiev/)\n
      \n
      The foundations of my beliefs are that the west saw itself as the winner of the cold war after USSR dissolved, and decided to renege on all the promises that were made in the 90s. This created increasing tensions with Russia, and eventually led to the war we’re seeing play out in Ukraine. This is a proxy war between NATO and Russia, and it’s following the script that [was outlined by RAND](https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR3063.html).\n
      \n
      The west made a huge miscalculation thinking that it could defeat Russia militarily and economically, and now the whole thing is starting to backfire. NATO is finding that it lacks the industrial base to sustain the conflict. Russia managed to reroute its trade away from the west, which caused immeasurable economic damage to Europe. The world outside the G7 has been increasingly aligning towards Russia and China and away from the west. This proxy war is heralding the end of the unipolar moment that US enjoyed and ushering in multipolarity.\n
      \n
      > I have been using Google for long enough to know that it often shows us what we want to see, not that which is most likely to be correct. :)\n
      \n
      Have you considered that this might be why you still think that Ukraine is winning despite all the evidence to the contrary?\n
      \n
      > Regarding Russian economic data you seem to be flaunting, Russia has made it hard for outside sources to verify any of it.\n
      \n
      Every mainstream western outlet, including the IMF, agrees that Russian economy is growing. No serious economists dispute this.\n
      \n
      > You seem to derive a lot of your opinions from mearsheimer.substack.com source but the sources the author uses to prove your points often come from rt.com which is like, the worst source for this discussion.\n
      \n
      Mearsheimer is just one example, and he is a preeminent political scientist in the US. The reality is that there is propaganda in the west just like there is in Russia, and western media often omits covering things that RT covers. Simply dismissing information based on the source is frankly absurd.\n
      \n
      Incidentally, Mearsheimer gave an entire lecture back in 2014 predicting the events in Ukraine that are currently unfolding, seems to me that he might know what he’s talking about [www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4)\n
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      > I will, however, refrain from posting on lemmy.ml in the future, because I can see that you are a mod of several communities on this instance and your overall conduct in this post has been rather childish and disrespectful. I feel like mods should hold themselves to a higher standard.\n
      \n
      Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
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            > False equivalence.\n
            \n
            It’s not.\n
            \n
            > Because Russia attacked them.\n
            \n
            No, Ukraine has been engaged in atrocities in Donbas since 2014 as even western media reported at the time.\n
            \n
            > It is in fact the opposite. No neutral country stays that way for long when Russia wants it’s territory.\n
            \n
            I see you have problems with reading comprehension.\n
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            > If the West had not helped, there would be no Ukraine either. We would be condemning them to a decade of guerilla warfare and oppression. Emboldened by his victory, Putin would look further west.\n
            \n
            If the west didn’t run a coup to overthrow a democratically elected government then there would’ve been no troubles in Ukraine. Period.\n
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            > Ukrainians now fight Russia, both sides are getting exhausted and it all depends on what help Ukraine gets. Your magical peace treaty would just mean Russia trying this again in 5 years or less.\n
            \n
            That’s complete and utter nonsense, and even western media now admits this.\n
            \n
            > You could have used the same arguments to make peace with the Nazis in 1941 and the world would only be worse for it.\n
            \n
            Now that’s what actual false equivalence looks like.
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            > Russian propaganda talking point.\n
            \n
            Ah yes, Russian propaganda point as reported by CNN back in 2014 [twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296](https://twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296)\n
            \n
            There’s even an hour long documentary from France on this [www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs)\n
            \n
            Pretending this just didn’t happen is the height of intellectual dishonesty.\n
            \n
            > Euromaidan was not a coup.\n
            \n
            Yes, it was and there’s overwhelming evidence for it.\n
            \n
            > Cite sources for the first point and military strategy analysts for the second.\n
            \n
            Are you just incapable of using google, I guess that would explain why you believe in nonsense. Here you go. First of all Russian economy is now rapidly growing while the west is going into a recession. This is not a country that’s showing any signs of being exhausted:\n
            \n
            - [newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-op…](https://www.newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-opinion-1861645)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-rosstat-2023-12-13/)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russian-factory-activity-expands-fa…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russian-factory-activity-expands-fastest-pace-seven-years-dec-pmi-2023-12-29/)\n
            \n
            and here’s some recent mainstream media reporting on the state of the war for you to chew on\n
            \n
            - [www.nytimes.com/2024/…/ukraine-russia-war.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/13/world/europe/ukraine-russia-war.html)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defen…](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defence-minister-says-2024-01-10/)\n
            - [lepoint.fr/…/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d…](https://www.lepoint.fr/monde/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d-une-debacle-05-01-2024-2549049_24.php)\n
            - [lemonde.fr/…/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-ex…](https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2023/09/27/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-express-discontent-i-repeatedly-told-them-nato-manuals-didn-t-apply_6140349_4.html)\n
            - [spiegel.de/…/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-…](https://www.spiegel.de/politik/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-deutschen-pannen-panzern-a-cd9421ae-4a96-4d4f-983a-6205a063ae15)\n
            - [archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73](https://archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73)\n
            - [telegraph.co.uk/…/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-…](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/12/27/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-tide-war-ukraine/)\n
            - [www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/…/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/ukraine-war-victory-hopes-dim-intl/index.html)\n
            - [cbc.ca/…/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232](https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232)\n
            \n
            and here’s some analysis from military strategists for you\n
            \n
            - [www.russiamatters.org/…/whats-ahead-war-ukraine](https://www.russiamatters.org/analysis/whats-ahead-war-ukraine)\n
            - […substack.com/…/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukra…](https://mearsheimer.substack.com/p/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukraine)\n
            - [rusi.org/…/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challeng…](https://www.rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challenges-and-innovations)\n
            \n
            Russia will win this war, and the only thing the west has achieved was to help destroy Ukraine by sabotaging negotiations in 2022.
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          +body: "Share a source for NATO invading Yugoslavia, Libya, Syria, and Afghanistan, is that what you’re asking there little buddy?"
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            Russian economy is growing while the west is going into a recession. [Russian factory activity grows at fastest pace in over six years](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-factory-activity-grows-fastest-pace-over-six-years-sept-pmi-2023-10-02/), meanwhile [while US manufacturing activity shrinks the most in three years.](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-07-03/us-manufacturing-activity-shrinks-by-most-in-three-years). UK now [can’t even make steel from raw materials.](https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/jan/18/tata-steel-to-shut-down-port-talbot-blast-furnaces-3000-jobs-at-risk)\n
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      The fact that the west was deeply involved in the coup is well documented even in western media\n
      \n
      - [quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukr…](https://www.quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukraines-2014-revolution-was-due-to-a-CIA-coup) ([archive.ph/BAxYc](https://archive.ph/BAxYc))\n
      - [consortiumnews.com/…/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-i…](https://consortiumnews.com/2022/12/29/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-in-kiev/)\n
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      The foundations of my beliefs are that the west saw itself as the winner of the cold war after USSR dissolved, and decided to renege on all the promises that were made in the 90s. This created increasing tensions with Russia, and eventually led to the war we’re seeing play out in Ukraine. This is a proxy war between NATO and Russia, and it’s following the script that [was outlined by RAND](https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR3063.html).\n
      \n
      The west made a huge miscalculation thinking that it could defeat Russia militarily and economically, and now the whole thing is starting to backfire. NATO is finding that it lacks the industrial base to sustain the conflict. Russia managed to reroute its trade away from the west, which caused immeasurable economic damage to Europe. The world outside the G7 has been increasingly aligning towards Russia and China and away from the west. This proxy war is heralding the end of the unipolar moment that US enjoyed and ushering in multipolarity.\n
      \n
      > I have been using Google for long enough to know that it often shows us what we want to see, not that which is most likely to be correct. :)\n
      \n
      Have you considered that this might be why you still think that Ukraine is winning despite all the evidence to the contrary?\n
      \n
      > Regarding Russian economic data you seem to be flaunting, Russia has made it hard for outside sources to verify any of it.\n
      \n
      Every mainstream western outlet, including the IMF, agrees that Russian economy is growing. No serious economists dispute this.\n
      \n
      > You seem to derive a lot of your opinions from mearsheimer.substack.com source but the sources the author uses to prove your points often come from rt.com which is like, the worst source for this discussion.\n
      \n
      Mearsheimer is just one example, and he is a preeminent political scientist in the US. The reality is that there is propaganda in the west just like there is in Russia, and western media often omits covering things that RT covers. Simply dismissing information based on the source is frankly absurd.\n
      \n
      Incidentally, Mearsheimer gave an entire lecture back in 2014 predicting the events in Ukraine that are currently unfolding, seems to me that he might know what he’s talking about [www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4)\n
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      > I will, however, refrain from posting on lemmy.ml in the future, because I can see that you are a mod of several communities on this instance and your overall conduct in this post has been rather childish and disrespectful. I feel like mods should hold themselves to a higher standard.\n
      \n
      Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
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          +body: "After two years, it’s pretty clear that the west is not capable of doing anything of the sort. All the west managed to achieve was to ensure that hundreds of thousands of people died, and that Ukraine lost large parts of its territory in the process. We now have admissions from Ukrainian negotiators that a peace deal was close to being reached last March before the west sabotaged it."
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            The actual truth is that it’s NATO that’s been constantly expanding towards Russia. It’s also NATO that’s been invading and destroying countries since the end of USSR. Syria, Libya, and Yugoslavia being some prominent examples.\n
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            Meanwhile, Russia tried to resolve this situation diplomatically since 2008 with Minsk agreements that western leaders now openly admit were a delaying tactic by the west.\n
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            Finally, section IX of Ukraine’s 1990 Declaration of State Sovereignty states the following:\n
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            The whole legal basis for the existence of state of Ukraine is predicated on Ukraine staying neutral and not joining military blocs. Ukraine broke the very basis of this agreement when it tried to join NATO.\n
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            Now, thanks to western “help”, Ukraine will lose far more territory than it would have if the deal was done last year, and it may even cease to exist as a state. I can’t wait for you to explain how this actually helps people of Ukraine.
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          +body: "NATO is an aggressive alliance that has invaded and destroyed numerous countries. The fact that you keep pretending that it’s a defensive alliance just shows how utterly dishonest you are."
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            > False equivalence.\n
            \n
            It’s not.\n
            \n
            > Because Russia attacked them.\n
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            No, Ukraine has been engaged in atrocities in Donbas since 2014 as even western media reported at the time.\n
            \n
            > It is in fact the opposite. No neutral country stays that way for long when Russia wants it’s territory.\n
            \n
            I see you have problems with reading comprehension.\n
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            > If the West had not helped, there would be no Ukraine either. We would be condemning them to a decade of guerilla warfare and oppression. Emboldened by his victory, Putin would look further west.\n
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            If the west didn’t run a coup to overthrow a democratically elected government then there would’ve been no troubles in Ukraine. Period.\n
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            > Ukrainians now fight Russia, both sides are getting exhausted and it all depends on what help Ukraine gets. Your magical peace treaty would just mean Russia trying this again in 5 years or less.\n
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            That’s complete and utter nonsense, and even western media now admits this.\n
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            > You could have used the same arguments to make peace with the Nazis in 1941 and the world would only be worse for it.\n
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            Now that’s what actual false equivalence looks like.
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            > Russian propaganda talking point.\n
            \n
            Ah yes, Russian propaganda point as reported by CNN back in 2014 [twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296](https://twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296)\n
            \n
            There’s even an hour long documentary from France on this [www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs)\n
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            Pretending this just didn’t happen is the height of intellectual dishonesty.\n
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            > Euromaidan was not a coup.\n
            \n
            Yes, it was and there’s overwhelming evidence for it.\n
            \n
            > Cite sources for the first point and military strategy analysts for the second.\n
            \n
            Are you just incapable of using google, I guess that would explain why you believe in nonsense. Here you go. First of all Russian economy is now rapidly growing while the west is going into a recession. This is not a country that’s showing any signs of being exhausted:\n
            \n
            - [newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-op…](https://www.newsweek.com/how-russia-won-sanctions-war-west-opinion-1861645)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russias-q3-gdp-growth-confirmed-55-rosstat-2023-12-13/)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/russian-factory-activity-expands-fa…](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/russian-factory-activity-expands-fastest-pace-seven-years-dec-pmi-2023-12-29/)\n
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            and here’s some recent mainstream media reporting on the state of the war for you to chew on\n
            \n
            - [www.nytimes.com/2024/…/ukraine-russia-war.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/13/world/europe/ukraine-russia-war.html)\n
            - [reuters.com/…/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defen…](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/time-diplomacy-ukraine-italys-defence-minister-says-2024-01-10/)\n
            - [lepoint.fr/…/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d…](https://www.lepoint.fr/monde/dans-l-est-de-l-ukraine-l-angoisse-d-une-debacle-05-01-2024-2549049_24.php)\n
            - [lemonde.fr/…/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-ex…](https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2023/09/27/ukrainian-soldiers-trained-abroad-express-discontent-i-repeatedly-told-them-nato-manuals-didn-t-apply_6140349_4.html)\n
            - [spiegel.de/…/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-…](https://www.spiegel.de/politik/ukraine-krieg-kiews-problem-mit-den-deutschen-pannen-panzern-a-cd9421ae-4a96-4d4f-983a-6205a063ae15)\n
            - [archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73](https://archive.is/8FXrT#selection-391.0-391.73)\n
            - [telegraph.co.uk/…/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-…](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/12/27/russia-electronic-warfare-turn-tide-war-ukraine/)\n
            - [www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/…/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/29/europe/ukraine-war-victory-hopes-dim-intl/index.html)\n
            - [cbc.ca/…/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232](https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ukraine-russia-congress-europe-1.7067232)\n
            \n
            and here’s some analysis from military strategists for you\n
            \n
            - [www.russiamatters.org/…/whats-ahead-war-ukraine](https://www.russiamatters.org/analysis/whats-ahead-war-ukraine)\n
            - […substack.com/…/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukra…](https://mearsheimer.substack.com/p/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukraine)\n
            - [rusi.org/…/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challeng…](https://www.rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/russias-artillery-war-ukraine-challenges-and-innovations)\n
            \n
            Russia will win this war, and the only thing the west has achieved was to help destroy Ukraine by sabotaging negotiations in 2022.
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          +body: "Share a source for NATO invading Yugoslavia, Libya, Syria, and Afghanistan, is that what you’re asking there little buddy?"
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            Russian economy is growing while the west is going into a recession. [Russian factory activity grows at fastest pace in over six years](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-factory-activity-grows-fastest-pace-over-six-years-sept-pmi-2023-10-02/), meanwhile [while US manufacturing activity shrinks the most in three years.](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-07-03/us-manufacturing-activity-shrinks-by-most-in-three-years). UK now [can’t even make steel from raw materials.](https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/jan/18/tata-steel-to-shut-down-port-talbot-blast-furnaces-3000-jobs-at-risk)\n
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            Yes, people still bleat about a weaker Russia. 🤡
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      The fact that the west was deeply involved in the coup is well documented even in western media\n
      \n
      - [quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukr…](https://www.quora.com/Is-there-any-credible-evidence-that-Ukraines-2014-revolution-was-due-to-a-CIA-coup) ([archive.ph/BAxYc](https://archive.ph/BAxYc))\n
      - [consortiumnews.com/…/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-i…](https://consortiumnews.com/2022/12/29/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-in-kiev/)\n
      \n
      The foundations of my beliefs are that the west saw itself as the winner of the cold war after USSR dissolved, and decided to renege on all the promises that were made in the 90s. This created increasing tensions with Russia, and eventually led to the war we’re seeing play out in Ukraine. This is a proxy war between NATO and Russia, and it’s following the script that [was outlined by RAND](https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR3063.html).\n
      \n
      The west made a huge miscalculation thinking that it could defeat Russia militarily and economically, and now the whole thing is starting to backfire. NATO is finding that it lacks the industrial base to sustain the conflict. Russia managed to reroute its trade away from the west, which caused immeasurable economic damage to Europe. The world outside the G7 has been increasingly aligning towards Russia and China and away from the west. This proxy war is heralding the end of the unipolar moment that US enjoyed and ushering in multipolarity.\n
      \n
      > I have been using Google for long enough to know that it often shows us what we want to see, not that which is most likely to be correct. :)\n
      \n
      Have you considered that this might be why you still think that Ukraine is winning despite all the evidence to the contrary?\n
      \n
      > Regarding Russian economic data you seem to be flaunting, Russia has made it hard for outside sources to verify any of it.\n
      \n
      Every mainstream western outlet, including the IMF, agrees that Russian economy is growing. No serious economists dispute this.\n
      \n
      > You seem to derive a lot of your opinions from mearsheimer.substack.com source but the sources the author uses to prove your points often come from rt.com which is like, the worst source for this discussion.\n
      \n
      Mearsheimer is just one example, and he is a preeminent political scientist in the US. The reality is that there is propaganda in the west just like there is in Russia, and western media often omits covering things that RT covers. Simply dismissing information based on the source is frankly absurd.\n
      \n
      Incidentally, Mearsheimer gave an entire lecture back in 2014 predicting the events in Ukraine that are currently unfolding, seems to me that he might know what he’s talking about [www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4)\n
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      > I will, however, refrain from posting on lemmy.ml in the future, because I can see that you are a mod of several communities on this instance and your overall conduct in this post has been rather childish and disrespectful. I feel like mods should hold themselves to a higher standard.\n
      \n
      Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
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        Privacy has become a very important issue in modern society, with companies and governments constantly abusing their power, more and more people are waking up to the importance of digital privacy.\n
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        ### Related communities\n
        \n
        - [Lemmy.ml libre_culture](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_culture)\n
        - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
        - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
        - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
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        ### Chat rooms\n
        \n
        - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
        - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
        \n
        much thanks to @gary_host_laptop for the logo design :)
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Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowEnumComponent {#23737
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Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#23809
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Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#23872
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Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#23928
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Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#23987
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[
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Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#24043
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[
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Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#24099
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Input props
[
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Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\UserSettingsRowSwitchComponent {#24157
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Input props
[
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Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#24220
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Input props
[
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]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\UserSettingsRowSwitchComponent {#24278
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Input props
[
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]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\UserSettingsRowSwitchComponent {#24334
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Input props
[
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Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\UserSettingsRowSwitchComponent {#24390
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Input props
[
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Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#24446
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Input props
[
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]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#24502
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Input props
[
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Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#24558
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Input props
[
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Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#24614
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Input props
[
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Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#24670
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Input props
[
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Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#24726
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Input props
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]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#24782
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Input props
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Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowEnumComponent {#24838
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Input props
[
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Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#24896
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[
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]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\DateComponent {#24969
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related_magazines App\Twig\Components\RelatedMagazinesComponent 22.0 MiB 3.13 ms
Input props
[
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]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\RelatedMagazinesComponent {#25056
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Input props
[
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]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\ActiveUsersComponent {#25121
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Input props
[
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]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\RelatedCategoriesComponent {#25180
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related_posts App\Twig\Components\RelatedPostsComponent 22.0 MiB 1.54 ms
Input props
[
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]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\RelatedPostsComponent {#25250
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[
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]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\RelatedEntriesComponent {#25319
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support_us_block App\Twig\Components\SupportUsBlock 22.0 MiB 0.20 ms
Input props
[]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SupportUsBlock {#25388
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Input props
[
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]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\FeaturedMagazinesComponent {#25481
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}