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This page helped me understand the setup. I’ll post it here just for informational purpose. It took me a while to find this. […stackexchange.com/…/dual-mosfet-8205a-lithium-ba…](https://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/203463/dual-mosfet-8205a-lithium-battery-protection-circuit)\n
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I got these TP4056 modules from an AliExpress vendor and fail to understand how the protection circuit works or if it’s just typical Ali shovelware. It could be my limited understanding of electronics.\n
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I suppose the Drain starts participating in the circuit when one mosfet activates.\n
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Yes that I found as well but have/had trouble understanding why it would be built like this. Also why a MOSFET would be designed internally like this. If you want more power capability you’d get a bigger MOSFET rather than two tiny ones in parallel right?\n
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This page helped me understand the setup. I’ll post it here just for informational purpose. It took me a while to find this. […stackexchange.com/…/dual-mosfet-8205a-lithium-ba…](https://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/203463/dual-mosfet-8205a-lithium-battery-protection-circuit)\n
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This page helped me understand the setup. I’ll post it here just for informational purpose. It took me a while to find this. […stackexchange.com/…/dual-mosfet-8205a-lithium-ba…](https://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/203463/dual-mosfet-8205a-lithium-battery-protection-circuit)\n
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I got these TP4056 modules from an AliExpress vendor and fail to understand how the protection circuit works or if it’s just typical Ali shovelware. It could be my limited understanding of electronics.\n
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This page helped me understand the setup. I’ll post it here just for informational purpose. It took me a while to find this. […stackexchange.com/…/dual-mosfet-8205a-lithium-ba…](https://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/203463/dual-mosfet-8205a-lithium-battery-protection-circuit)\n
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Replying to myself for informational reason. Modifying voltage was more or less successful. Both optocouplers transmit a reference voltage, so both need to be adjusted simultaneously.\n
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Does anyone recognise these power supplies? They’re cheap AliExpress led drivers and I want to change its output voltage to around 22V from 12V. I’ve read that the way to do this is to adjust the REF voltage on the IC that controls it. It’s a KA3845 but I don’t understand where that reference voltage is regulated. One voltage is feedback from the output where then other should be a reference.\n
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What would be the best way to approach this? I can’t find any schematics on these boards unfortunately.\n
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Thanks.
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+body: "Thanks. I ordered the 24V model in hopes of adjusting it down to 22V. I will use that to keep a 7s Li-Ion battery at a minimum charge level whereas a solar panel array may increase that voltage higher. It looks like the 24V model’s capacitors need to be changed as well since they can’t handle the Li-Ion batterys’ max charge voltage."
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+body: "Well there certainly is some regulation because attaching a load does not decrease the voltage by much. Increasing the voltage is indeed ambitious for the 12V model but lowering the voltage of the 12V model seems doable."
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Replying to myself for informational reason. Modifying voltage was more or less successful. Both optocouplers transmit a reference voltage, so both need to be adjusted simultaneously.\n
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This can be done by changing the value of R19, a 23.2k smd resistor close to the output terminals.\n
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I’ve attached a 10k pot with a 10k and 6.8k resistor in series and successfully modified the voltage down to 22.5.\n
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The power supply itself is a piece of crap though. It claims to handle 400W but anything over 150W causes the short circuit protection to activate, never mind overheating at 150W very quickly.\n
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