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Security

Token

There is no security token.

Firewall

main Name
Security enabled
Stateless

Configuration

Key Value
provider security.user.provider.concrete.app_user_provider
context main
entry_point App\Security\KbinAuthenticator
user_checker App\Security\UserChecker
access_denied_handler (none)
access_denied_url (none)
authenticators
[
  "two_factor"
  "remember_me"
  "App\Security\KbinAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\FacebookAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\GoogleAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\GithubAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\KeycloakAuthenticator"
]

Listeners

Listener Duration Response
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\ChannelListener {#723
  -map: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\AccessMap {#722 …}
  -logger: Monolog\Logger {#783 …}
  -httpPort: 80
  -httpsPort: 443
}
0.00 ms (none)
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\ContextListener {#706
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\TokenStorage {#1017 …}
  -sessionKey: "_security_main"
  -logger: Monolog\Logger {#783 …}
  -userProviders: Symfony\Component\DependencyInjection\Argument\RewindableGenerator {#705 …}
  -dispatcher: Symfony\Component\EventDispatcher\Debug\TraceableEventDispatcher {#747 …}
  -registered: false
  -trustResolver: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authentication\AuthenticationTrustResolver {#780 …}
  -sessionTrackerEnabler: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage::enableUsageTracking(): void {#703 …}
}
0.23 ms (none)
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\AuthenticatorManagerListener {#584
  -authenticatorManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Authentication\AuthenticatorManager {#595 …}
}
0.00 ms (none)
Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Http\Firewall\TwoFactorAccessListener {#582
  -twoFactorFirewallConfig: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\TwoFactor\TwoFactorFirewallConfig {#842 …}
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -twoFactorAccessDecider: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\TwoFactorAccessDecider {#581 …}
}
0.42 ms (none)
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\AccessListener {#579
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -accessDecisionManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\TraceableAccessDecisionManager {#937 …}
  -map: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\AccessMap {#722 …}
}
0.00 ms (none)
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\LogoutListener {#786
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -options: [
    "csrf_parameter" => "_csrf_token"
    "csrf_token_id" => "logout"
    "logout_path" => "app_logout"
  ]
  -httpUtils: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\HttpUtils {#841 …}
  -csrfTokenManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Csrf\CsrfTokenManager {#1015 …}
  -eventDispatcher: Symfony\Component\EventDispatcher\Debug\TraceableEventDispatcher {#747 …}
}
0.00 ms (none)

Authenticators

No authenticators have been recorded. Check previous profiles on your authentication endpoint.

Access Decision

affirmative Strategy
# Voter class
1
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\AuthenticatedVoter"
2
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
3
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
4
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\ExpressionVoter"
5
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
6
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
7
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
8
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
9
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
10
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
11
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
12
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
13
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
14
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"

Access decision log

# Result Attributes Object
1 DENIED ROLE_USER
null
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
ACCESS DENIED
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
2 DENIED moderate
Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1591
  +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#2455 …}
  +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1584 …}
  +image: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#2018 …}
  +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#2081 …}
  +slug: "eat-the-rich"
  +title: "eat the rich"
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  +body: "It’s a meme"
  +type: "image"
  +lang: "en"
  +isOc: false
  +hasEmbed: true
  +commentCount: 223
  +favouriteCount: 892
  +score: 0
  +isAdult: false
  +sticky: false
  +lastActive: DateTime @1699053570 {#1910
    date: 2023-11-04 00:19:30.0 +01:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +adaAmount: 0
  +tags: null
  +mentions: null
  +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2062 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2085 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2097 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2348 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2040 …}
  +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2289 …}
  +children: [
    4 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1709
      +user: App\Entity\User {#265 …}
      +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1591 …2}
      +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1584 …}
      +image: null
      +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1668 …}
      +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1667 …}
      +body: "Under postcapitalism, the factory would be commonly-owned. The company that operates the factory would worker-controlled. That being said, there is nothing wrong with the holder of the building even in common ownership setup being compensated. What is unfair is to demand control rights over the firm for this capital and make the workers at the company your employees. Not everyone against capitalism is a communist. There can still be economic incentives for productive activity"
      +lang: "en"
      +isAdult: false
      +favouriteCount: 2
      +score: 0
      +lastActive: DateTime @1698435230 {#1439
        date: 2023-10-27 21:33:50.0 +02:00
      }
      +ip: null
      +tags: null
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        "@ThunderChunk@lemmy.dbzer0.com"
        "@porkins@sh.itjust.works"
        "@irmoz@reddthat.com"
        "@memes@lemmy.ml"
      ]
      +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1670 …}
      +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1678 …}
      +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1673 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1676 …}
      +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1586 …}
      +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1572 …}
      -id: 75147
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      +ranking: 0
      +commentCount: 0
      +upVotes: 0
      +downVotes: 0
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +apId: "https://mastodon.social/users/jlou/statuses/111308651297465174"
      +editedAt: DateTimeImmutable @1698435362 {#1435
        date: 2023-10-27 21:36:02.0 +02:00
      }
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1698435230 {#1436
        date: 2023-10-27 21:33:50.0 +02:00
      }
      +"title": 75147
    }
    3 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1525
      +user: App\Entity\User {#265 …}
      +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1591 …2}
      +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1584 …}
      +image: null
      +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1527 …}
      +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1667 …}
      +body: "Even if we ignore the artificially increased transaction costs and hold out problems associated with private ownership that make acquiring means of production more expensive, this point only justifies some sort of compensation from the workers as part of the negative fruits of their labor in production. It does not justify the capitalist appropriating 100% of the positive (legal right to produced outputs) and negative (legal liability for the used-up inputs) fruits of the workers' joint labor"
      +lang: "en"
      +isAdult: false
      +favouriteCount: 2
      +score: 0
      +lastActive: DateTime @1698435737 {#1578
        date: 2023-10-27 21:42:17.0 +02:00
      }
      +ip: null
      +tags: null
      +mentions: [
        "@ThunderChunk@lemmy.dbzer0.com"
        "@porkins@sh.itjust.works"
        "@irmoz@reddthat.com"
      ]
      +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1568 …}
      +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1567 …}
      +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1559 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1564 …}
      +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1563 …}
      +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1565 …}
      -id: 75274
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      +ranking: 0
      +commentCount: 0
      +upVotes: 0
      +downVotes: 0
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +apId: "https://mastodon.social/users/jlou/statuses/111308684503948001"
      +editedAt: null
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1698435737 {#1561
        date: 2023-10-27 21:42:17.0 +02:00
      }
      +"title": 75274
    }
    2 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1721
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      +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1591 …2}
      +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1584 …}
      +image: null
      +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1726 …}
      +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1728 …}
      +body: "A better case for worker cooperatives is just pointing out they satisfy the moral principle that legal and de facto responsibility should match. The workers are jointly de facto responsible for using up the inputs to produce the outputs, but in a capitalist firm, the employer holds sole legal responsibility for 100% the corresponding legal claim to the positive and negative result of the enterprise while employees receive 0%. In a worker coop, this mismatch is corrected"
      +lang: "en"
      +isAdult: false
      +favouriteCount: 1
      +score: 0
      +lastActive: DateTime @1698441738 {#1725
        date: 2023-10-27 23:22:18.0 +02:00
      }
      +ip: null
      +tags: null
      +mentions: [
        "@ThunderChunk@lemmy.dbzer0.com"
        "@Seraph@kbin.social"
        "@TheBeege@lemmy.world"
      ]
      +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1736 …}
      +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1737 …}
      +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1732 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1735 …}
      +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1729 …}
      +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1719 …}
      -id: 75391
      -bodyTs: "'0':69 '100':52 'better':2 'capitalist':43 'case':3 'claim':56 'coop':73 'cooper':6 'correct':77 'correspond':54 'de':19,28 'employ':46 'employe':67 'enterpris':65 'facto':20,29 'firm':44 'hold':47 'input':35 'joint':27 'legal':17,49,55 'match':23 'mismatch':75 'moral':14 'negat':61 'output':39 'point':9 'posit':59 'principl':15 'produc':37 'receiv':68 'respons':21,30,50 'result':62 'satisfi':12 'sole':48 'use':32 'worker':5,25,72"
      +ranking: 0
      +commentCount: 0
      +upVotes: 0
      +downVotes: 0
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +apId: "https://mastodon.social/users/jlou/statuses/111309077791148719"
      +editedAt: DateTimeImmutable @1698453776 {#1723
        date: 2023-10-28 02:42:56.0 +02:00
      }
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1698441738 {#1722
        date: 2023-10-27 23:22:18.0 +02:00
      }
      +"title": 75391
    }
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      +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1591 …2}
      +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1584 …}
      +image: null
      +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1621 …}
      +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1620 …}
      +body: "On the part of labor. No matter how causally efficacious capital is. It can never be de facto responsible for anything because responsibility is imputed through the tools back to the workers using them."
      +lang: "en"
      +isAdult: false
      +favouriteCount: 1
      +score: 0
      +lastActive: DateTime @1698442052 {#1558
        date: 2023-10-27 23:27:32.0 +02:00
      }
      +ip: null
      +tags: null
      +mentions: [
        "@ThunderChunk@lemmy.dbzer0.com"
        "@Zoboomafoo@lemmy.world"
        "@Maven@lemmy.world"
        "@memes@lemmy.ml"
      ]
      +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1613 …}
      +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1596 …}
      +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1702 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1683 …}
      +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1680 …}
      +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1686 …}
      -id: 75293
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      +ranking: 0
      +commentCount: 0
      +upVotes: 0
      +downVotes: 0
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +apId: "https://mastodon.social/users/jlou/statuses/111309098341830119"
      +editedAt: DateTimeImmutable @1698442068 {#1556
        date: 2023-10-27 23:27:48.0 +02:00
      }
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1698442052 {#1557
        date: 2023-10-27 23:27:32.0 +02:00
      }
      +"title": 75293
    }
    0 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1711
      +user: App\Entity\User {#265 …}
      +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1591 …2}
      +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1584 …}
      +image: null
      +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1616 …}
      +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1667 …}
      +body: "It doesn't have to work like that. Instead of capital hiring labor, labor can jointly hire capital and structure the firm as a worker coop. There are good ethical reasons for organizing production in a worker coop as well"
      +lang: "en"
      +isAdult: false
      +favouriteCount: 2
      +score: 0
      +lastActive: DateTime @1698445179 {#1692
        date: 2023-10-28 00:19:39.0 +02:00
      }
      +ip: null
      +tags: null
      +mentions: [
        "@ThunderChunk@lemmy.dbzer0.com"
        "@porkins@sh.itjust.works"
        "@irmoz@reddthat.com"
        "@memes@lemmy.ml"
        "@jlou@mastodon.social"
      ]
      +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1611 …}
      +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1630 …}
      +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1628 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1599 …}
      +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1625 …}
      +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1617 …}
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      +ranking: 0
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      +visibility: "visible             "
      +apId: "https://mastodon.social/users/jlou/statuses/111309303282558018"
      +editedAt: DateTimeImmutable @1698445834 {#1795
        date: 2023-10-28 00:30:34.0 +02:00
      }
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        date: 2023-10-28 00:19:39.0 +02:00
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  }
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1698420752 {#2380
    date: 2023-10-27 17:32:32.0 +02:00
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}
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
ACCESS DENIED
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
3 DENIED edit
Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1591
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  +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1584 …}
  +image: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#2018 …}
  +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#2081 …}
  +slug: "eat-the-rich"
  +title: "eat the rich"
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  +body: "It’s a meme"
  +type: "image"
  +lang: "en"
  +isOc: false
  +hasEmbed: true
  +commentCount: 223
  +favouriteCount: 892
  +score: 0
  +isAdult: false
  +sticky: false
  +lastActive: DateTime @1699053570 {#1910
    date: 2023-11-04 00:19:30.0 +01:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +adaAmount: 0
  +tags: null
  +mentions: null
  +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2062 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2085 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2097 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2348 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2040 …}
  +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2289 …}
  +children: [
    4 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1709
      +user: App\Entity\User {#265 …}
      +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1591 …2}
      +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1584 …}
      +image: null
      +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1668 …}
      +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1667 …}
      +body: "Under postcapitalism, the factory would be commonly-owned. The company that operates the factory would worker-controlled. That being said, there is nothing wrong with the holder of the building even in common ownership setup being compensated. What is unfair is to demand control rights over the firm for this capital and make the workers at the company your employees. Not everyone against capitalism is a communist. There can still be economic incentives for productive activity"
      +lang: "en"
      +isAdult: false
      +favouriteCount: 2
      +score: 0
      +lastActive: DateTime @1698435230 {#1439
        date: 2023-10-27 21:33:50.0 +02:00
      }
      +ip: null
      +tags: null
      +mentions: [
        "@ThunderChunk@lemmy.dbzer0.com"
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        "@irmoz@reddthat.com"
        "@memes@lemmy.ml"
      ]
      +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1670 …}
      +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1678 …}
      +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1673 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1676 …}
      +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1586 …}
      +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1572 …}
      -id: 75147
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      +ranking: 0
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      +apId: "https://mastodon.social/users/jlou/statuses/111308651297465174"
      +editedAt: DateTimeImmutable @1698435362 {#1435
        date: 2023-10-27 21:36:02.0 +02:00
      }
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1698435230 {#1436
        date: 2023-10-27 21:33:50.0 +02:00
      }
      +"title": 75147
    }
    3 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1525
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      +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1591 …2}
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        +body: "Even if we ignore the artificially increased transaction costs and hold out problems associated with private ownership that make acquiring means of production more expensive, this point only justifies some sort of compensation from the workers as part of the negative fruits of their labor in production. It does not justify the capitalist appropriating 100% of the positive (legal right to produced outputs) and negative (legal liability for the used-up inputs) fruits of the workers' joint labor"
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        +body: "A better case for worker cooperatives is just pointing out they satisfy the moral principle that legal and de facto responsibility should match. The workers are jointly de facto responsible for using up the inputs to produce the outputs, but in a capitalist firm, the employer holds sole legal responsibility for 100% the corresponding legal claim to the positive and negative result of the enterprise while employees receive 0%. In a worker coop, this mismatch is corrected"
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        +body: "On the part of labor. No matter how causally efficacious capital is. It can never be de facto responsible for anything because responsibility is imputed through the tools back to the workers using them."
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  +body: "It doesn't have to work like that. Instead of capital hiring labor, labor can jointly hire capital and structure the firm as a worker coop. There are good ethical reasons for organizing production in a worker coop as well"
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