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            "content": "<p>I\u2019ll give my take on it. Something many fail to grasp is that it\u2019s not about a singular thing, you need to look at the context. Let\u2019s go through some of it:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Andreas Kling, lead developer of (now-)Ladybird, rejects <a href=\"https:\/\/github.com\/SerenityOS\/serenity\/pull\/6814\" rel=\"nofollow\">PR<\/a> that changes \u201che\u201d to \u201cthey\u201d in documentation.\n<ul>\n<li>This is the most frequently mentioned example of Andreas\u2019 issues.<\/li>\n<li>The \u201che\u201d in question referred to any user, where \u201cthey\u201d is already commonly used instead by everything from companies, to news, to the Linux Kernel docs (an arguably much more important software project).<\/li>\n<li>Andreas\u2019 exact words: &quot;This project is not an appropriate arena to advertise your personal politics.&quot;<\/li>\n<li>This code was eventually merged 3 years laters in a <a href=\"https:\/\/github.com\/SerenityOS\/serenity\/pull\/24648\" rel=\"nofollow\">different PR<\/a>, this time described as \u201cGrammar fixes\u201d (it changes even more pronouns to gender neutral than the original did).\n<ul>\n<li>This PR was merged two hours after its creation and, coincidentally, around a month after Andreas announced his <a href=\"https:\/\/awesomekling.substack.com\/p\/forking-ladybird-and-stepping-down-serenityos\" rel=\"nofollow\">stepping down from the project<\/a>.<\/li>\n<li>An <a href=\"https:\/\/infosec.exchange\/@ryanc\/112719345056546400\" rel=\"nofollow\">unrelated post<\/a> by the contributor, same day.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li>Someone got his attention and <a href=\"https:\/\/xcancel.com\/LeaVerou\/status\/1808285882970935706\" rel=\"nofollow\">tried to explain to him why that\u2019s not cool<\/a>; he doubled down, assuming the worst from the original contributor.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li>Andreas Kling likes interacting with far-right, queerphobic, or otherwise controversial persons.\n<ul>\n<li>Here\u2019s him calling Brendan Eich, known homophobe, kicked out of Mozilla for\u2026 being a homophobe, now CEO of the foremost crypto browser, infamous for its <a href=\"https:\/\/old.reddit.com\/user\/lo________________ol\/comments\/1iya14j\/brave_of_them\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">bravery<\/a> and attracting like-minded fans, <a href=\"https:\/\/xcancel.com\/awesomekling\/status\/1895256766415597609\" rel=\"nofollow\">&quot;Senpai.&quot;<\/a>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/xcancel.com\/awesomekling\/status\/1858506143561101348\" rel=\"nofollow\">A far more impressive man than Andreas will ever be<\/a>.<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/xcancel.com\/awesomekling\/status\/1888222532366405835\" rel=\"nofollow\">Brendan\u2019s great<\/a> \u2026Also shouldn\u2019t have decried him in the past for being a homophobe (he did to fit in).<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/xcancel.com\/awesomekling\/status\/1895793153422344281\" rel=\"nofollow\">Memeing<\/a> about Brendan Eich\u2019s secret to success.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li>Here\u2019s him <a href=\"https:\/\/xcancel.com\/awesomekling\/status\/1895905177942868019\" rel=\"nofollow\">welcoming Vaxry<\/a>, infamous for <a href=\"https:\/\/drewdevault.com\/2023\/09\/17\/Hyprland-toxicity.html\" rel=\"nofollow\">the toxic community<\/a> of his hyprland project to the point of being kicked out of the freedesktop.org project. He\u2019s also on record saying <a href=\"https:\/\/drewdevault.com\/2024\/04\/09\/2024-04-09-FDO-conduct-enforcement.html\" rel=\"nofollow\">\u201cI do believe there could be arguments to sway my opinion towards genocide\u201d<\/a>. There is a print of this, somewhere. I will find it and put it here.<\/li>\n<li>Here\u2019s him <a href=\"https:\/\/xcancel.com\/LundukeJournal\/status\/1891603829746995267\" rel=\"nofollow\">doing a talk with Bryan Lunduke<\/a>, tech\u2019s premier <a href=\"https:\/\/lunduke.locals.com\/post\/5515463\/red-hat-vs-hyprland-silencing-political-undesirables\" rel=\"nofollow\">transphobe<\/a> anti-DEI, anti-Woke conspiracy theorist with a classic far-right victim-complex.\n<ul>\n<li>Trudging through Bryan\u2019s slop wears on the mind, but here\u2019s <a href=\"https:\/\/lunduke.locals.com\/post\/5818858\/elementary-os-asahi-linux-declare-war-on-right-wing-nerds\" rel=\"nofollow\">another example<\/a> of him being ridiculous. Highlight of the article: &quot;There are multiple Software and Computer organizations which have declared their support for the Trans fetish over the last few years\u2026&quot;\n<ul>\n<li>Read anything by Bryan, then look into what he\u2019s talking about. There are at least as many examples, as there are times Bryan has touched upon LGBT topics or linux in recent years.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li>Here\u2019s relatively prominent KDE developer <a href=\"https:\/\/nicco.love\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">Niccol\u00f2<\/a>\u2019s <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=mhqeuO9RKKk\" rel=\"nofollow\">hour long video<\/a> detailing how Bryan is a horrible, lying \u201cjournalist,\u201d and how people <em>need to stop giving him a stage.<\/em><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li>He also often interacts with other various degrees of right-leaning users on twitter, a platform he describes as <a href=\"https:\/\/xcancel.com\/awesomekling\/status\/1808037244227187179\" rel=\"nofollow\">full of positive energy<\/a>, unlike Mastodon.\n<ul>\n<li>For fun, I would like to share with you, dear reader, <a href=\"https:\/\/xcancel.com\/ThisStupidTwink\/status\/1800920600346567068\" rel=\"nofollow\">my favorite comic<\/a> about the state of twitter.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li>Other quirky things about Andreas that could be irrelevant in isolation but\u2026 come on, put the pieces together.\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/xcancel.com\/awesomekling\/status\/1307337736299393026\" rel=\"nofollow\">Thinks the left doesn\u2019t contribute to Open Source.<\/a> No idea how he measured lurkers\u2019 political leanings, must be great gut-feelings.\n<ul>\n<li>Hey, remember that time Linus Torvalds, creator of Linux, <a href=\"https:\/\/news.itsfoss.com\/linus-torvalds-woke-communists\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">called himself a \u201cwoke communist\u201d<\/a> on a public rant on the Fediverse?<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li>Self-described <a href=\"https:\/\/xcancel.com\/awesomekling\/status\/1812192555527774710\" rel=\"nofollow\">centrist<\/a>\/<a href=\"https:\/\/xcancel.com\/awesomekling\/status\/1409611469570854914\" rel=\"nofollow\">apolitical<\/a>.\n<ul>\n<li>I can elaborate on why this isn\u2019t good if needed, but <a href=\"https:\/\/thenib.com\/centrist-history\/?id=kasia-babis&amp;t=author\" rel=\"nofollow\">I think most people get it.<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/xcancel.com\/awesomekling\/status\/1897616341718224934\" rel=\"nofollow\">Wary of people publicizing likes<\/a>.\n<ul>\n<li>Someone implied that if people didn\u2019t like Andreas\u2019 views now, they would\u2019ve abhorred his Liked list before twitter privated those. It\u2019s a random person\u2019s word, don\u2019t take it as fact, but I need to share this because I\u2019ve seen similar situations before, and it wouldn\u2019t be surprising.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Would I look at that PR and say I\u2019m not touching Andreas with a ten-foot pole? Maybe that\u2019s excessive. Would I ignore all the rest and say he\u2019s just misunderstood? Hell no. For all its issues, I do hope Ladybird succeeds as a new browser engine because the internet needs more of those. But I\u2019m not touching or otherwise supporting it unless Andreas gets his shit sorted.<\/p>\n<p>P.S. writing this taught me some here not only don\u2019t mind shitty people, they get mad when others point out their shittiness. I assume they also think tech should be apolitical, just like back in the 70s when DARPA developed it for the military, or like when reddit users leave for a free and open source alternative made to be censorship resistant.<\/p>\n",
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                "content": "I'll give my take on it. Something many fail to grasp is that it's not about a singular thing, you need to look at the context. Let's go through some of it:\n\n- Andreas Kling, lead developer of (now-)Ladybird, rejects [PR](https:\/\/github.com\/SerenityOS\/serenity\/pull\/6814) that changes \"he\" to \"they\" in documentation.\n  - This is the most frequently mentioned example of Andreas' issues.\n  - The \"he\" in question referred to any user, where \"they\" is already commonly used instead by everything from companies, to news, to the Linux Kernel docs (an arguably much more important software project).\n  - Andreas' exact words: \"This project is not an appropriate arena to advertise your personal politics.\"\n  - This code was eventually merged 3 years laters in a [different PR](https:\/\/github.com\/SerenityOS\/serenity\/pull\/24648), this time described as \"Grammar fixes\" (it changes even more pronouns to gender neutral than the original did).\n    - This PR was merged two hours after its creation and, coincidentally, around a month after Andreas announced his [stepping down from the project](https:\/\/awesomekling.substack.com\/p\/forking-ladybird-and-stepping-down-serenityos).\n    - An [unrelated post](https:\/\/infosec.exchange\/@ryanc\/112719345056546400) by the contributor, same day.\n  - Someone got his attention and [tried to explain to him why that's not cool](https:\/\/xcancel.com\/LeaVerou\/status\/1808285882970935706); he doubled down, assuming the worst from the original contributor.\n- Andreas Kling likes interacting with far-right, queerphobic, or otherwise controversial persons.\n  - Here's him calling Brendan Eich, known homophobe, kicked out of Mozilla for... being a homophobe, now CEO of the foremost crypto browser, infamous for its [bravery](https:\/\/old.reddit.com\/user\/lo________________ol\/comments\/1iya14j\/brave_of_them\/) and attracting like-minded fans, [\"Senpai.\"](https:\/\/xcancel.com\/awesomekling\/status\/1895256766415597609) \n    - [A far more impressive man than Andreas will ever be](https:\/\/xcancel.com\/awesomekling\/status\/1858506143561101348).\n    - [Brendan's great](https:\/\/xcancel.com\/awesomekling\/status\/1888222532366405835) ...Also shouldn't have decried him in the past for being a homophobe (he did to fit in).\n    - [Memeing](https:\/\/xcancel.com\/awesomekling\/status\/1895793153422344281) about Brendan Eich's secret to success.\n  - Here's him [welcoming Vaxry](https:\/\/xcancel.com\/awesomekling\/status\/1895905177942868019), infamous for [the toxic community](https:\/\/drewdevault.com\/2023\/09\/17\/Hyprland-toxicity.html) of his hyprland project to the point of being kicked out of the freedesktop.org project. He's also on record saying [\"I do believe there could be arguments to sway my opinion towards genocide\"](https:\/\/drewdevault.com\/2024\/04\/09\/2024-04-09-FDO-conduct-enforcement.html). There is a print of this, somewhere. I will find it and put it here.\n  - Here's him [doing a talk with Bryan Lunduke](https:\/\/xcancel.com\/LundukeJournal\/status\/1891603829746995267), tech's premier [transphobe](https:\/\/lunduke.locals.com\/post\/5515463\/red-hat-vs-hyprland-silencing-political-undesirables) anti-DEI, anti-Woke conspiracy theorist with a classic far-right victim-complex.\n    - Trudging through Bryan's slop wears on the mind, but here's [another example](https:\/\/lunduke.locals.com\/post\/5818858\/elementary-os-asahi-linux-declare-war-on-right-wing-nerds) of him being ridiculous. Highlight of the article: \"There are multiple Software and Computer organizations which have declared their support for the Trans fetish over the last few years...\"\n      - Read anything by Bryan, then look into what he's talking about. There are at least as many examples, as there are times Bryan has touched upon LGBT topics or linux in recent years.\n    - Here's relatively prominent KDE developer [Niccol\u00f2](https:\/\/nicco.love\/)'s [hour long video](https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=mhqeuO9RKKk) detailing how Bryan is a horrible, lying \"journalist,\" and how people *need to stop giving him a stage.*\n  - He also often interacts with other various degrees of right-leaning users on twitter, a platform he describes as [full of positive energy](https:\/\/xcancel.com\/awesomekling\/status\/1808037244227187179), unlike Mastodon.\n    - For fun, I would like to share with you, dear reader, [my favorite comic](https:\/\/xcancel.com\/ThisStupidTwink\/status\/1800920600346567068) about the state of twitter.\n- Other quirky things about Andreas that could be irrelevant in isolation but... come on, put the pieces together.\n  - [Thinks the left doesn't contribute to Open Source.](https:\/\/xcancel.com\/awesomekling\/status\/1307337736299393026) No idea how he measured lurkers' political leanings, must be great gut-feelings.\n    - Hey, remember that time Linus Torvalds, creator of Linux, [called himself a \"woke communist\"](https:\/\/news.itsfoss.com\/linus-torvalds-woke-communists\/) on a public rant on the Fediverse?\n  - Self-described [centrist](https:\/\/xcancel.com\/awesomekling\/status\/1812192555527774710)\/[apolitical](https:\/\/xcancel.com\/awesomekling\/status\/1409611469570854914).\n    - I can elaborate on why this isn't good if needed, but [I think most people get it.](https:\/\/thenib.com\/centrist-history\/?id=kasia-babis&t=author)\n  - [Wary of people publicizing likes](https:\/\/xcancel.com\/awesomekling\/status\/1897616341718224934).\n    - Someone implied that if people didn't like Andreas' views now, they would've abhorred his Liked list before twitter privated those. It's a random person's word, don't take it as fact, but I need to share this because I've seen similar situations before, and it wouldn't be surprising.\n\nWould I look at that PR and say I'm not touching Andreas with a ten-foot pole? Maybe that's excessive. Would I ignore all the rest and say he's just misunderstood? Hell no. For all its issues, I do hope Ladybird succeeds as a new browser engine because the internet needs more of those. But I'm not touching or otherwise supporting it unless Andreas gets his shit sorted.\n\nP.S. writing this taught me some here not only don't mind shitty people, they get mad when others point out their shittiness. I assume they also think tech should be apolitical, just like back in the 70s when DARPA developed it for the military, or like when reddit users leave for a free and open source alternative made to be censorship resistant.",
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Let’s go through some of it:</p>\n<ul>\n<li>Andreas Kling, lead developer of (now-)Ladybird, rejects <a href=\"https://github.com/SerenityOS/serenity/pull/6814\" rel=\"nofollow\">PR</a> that changes “he” to “they” in documentation.\n<ul>\n<li>This is the most frequently mentioned example of Andreas’ issues.</li>\n<li>The “he” in question referred to any user, where “they” is already commonly used instead by everything from companies, to news, to the Linux Kernel docs (an arguably much more important software project).</li>\n<li>Andreas’ exact words: &quot;This project is not an appropriate arena to advertise your personal politics.&quot;</li>\n<li>This code was eventually merged 3 years laters in a <a href=\"https://github.com/SerenityOS/serenity/pull/24648\" rel=\"nofollow\">different PR</a>, this time described as “Grammar fixes” (it changes even more pronouns to gender neutral than the original did).\n<ul>\n<li>This PR was merged two hours after its creation and, coincidentally, around a month after Andreas announced his <a href=\"https://awesomekling.substack.com/p/forking-ladybird-and-stepping-down-serenityos\" rel=\"nofollow\">stepping down from the project</a>.</li>\n<li>An <a href=\"https://infosec.exchange/@ryanc/112719345056546400\" rel=\"nofollow\">unrelated post</a> by the contributor, same day.</li>\n</ul>\n</li>\n<li>Someone got his attention and <a href=\"https://xcancel.com/LeaVerou/status/1808285882970935706\" rel=\"nofollow\">tried to explain to him why that’s not cool</a>; he doubled down, assuming the worst from the original contributor.</li>\n</ul>\n</li>\n<li>Andreas Kling likes interacting with far-right, queerphobic, or otherwise controversial persons.\n<ul>\n<li>Here’s him calling Brendan Eich, known homophobe, kicked out of Mozilla for… being a homophobe, now CEO of the foremost crypto browser, infamous for its <a href=\"https://old.reddit.com/user/lo________________ol/comments/1iya14j/brave_of_them/\" rel=\"nofollow\">bravery</a> and attracting like-minded fans, <a href=\"https://xcancel.com/awesomekling/status/1895256766415597609\" rel=\"nofollow\">&quot;Senpai.&quot;</a>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https://xcancel.com/awesomekling/status/1858506143561101348\" rel=\"nofollow\">A far more impressive man than Andreas will ever be</a>.</li>\n<li><a href=\"https://xcancel.com/awesomekling/status/1888222532366405835\" rel=\"nofollow\">Brendan’s great</a> …Also shouldn’t have decried him in the past for being a homophobe (he did to fit in).</li>\n<li><a href=\"https://xcancel.com/awesomekling/status/1895793153422344281\" rel=\"nofollow\">Memeing</a> about Brendan Eich’s secret to success.</li>\n</ul>\n</li>\n<li>Here’s him <a href=\"https://xcancel.com/awesomekling/status/1895905177942868019\" rel=\"nofollow\">welcoming Vaxry</a>, infamous for <a href=\"https://drewdevault.com/2023/09/17/Hyprland-toxicity.html\" rel=\"nofollow\">the toxic community</a> of his hyprland project to the point of being kicked out of the freedesktop.org project. He’s also on record saying <a href=\"https://drewdevault.com/2024/04/09/2024-04-09-FDO-conduct-enforcement.html\" rel=\"nofollow\">“I do believe there could be arguments to sway my opinion towards genocide”</a>. There is a print of this, somewhere. I will find it and put it here.</li>\n<li>Here’s him <a href=\"https://xcancel.com/LundukeJournal/status/1891603829746995267\" rel=\"nofollow\">doing a talk with Bryan Lunduke</a>, tech’s premier <a href=\"https://lunduke.locals.com/post/5515463/red-hat-vs-hyprland-silencing-political-undesirables\" rel=\"nofollow\">transphobe</a> anti-DEI, anti-Woke conspiracy theorist with a classic far-right victim-complex.\n<ul>\n<li>Trudging through Bryan’s slop wears on the mind, but here’s <a href=\"https://lunduke.locals.com/post/5818858/elementary-os-asahi-linux-declare-war-on-right-wing-nerds\" rel=\"nofollow\">another example</a> of him being ridiculous. Highlight of the article: &quot;There are multiple Software and Computer organizations which have declared their support for the Trans fetish over the last few years…&quot;\n<ul>\n<li>Read anything by Bryan, then look into what he’s talking about. There are at least as many examples, as there are times Bryan has touched upon LGBT topics or linux in recent years.</li>\n</ul>\n</li>\n<li>Here’s relatively prominent KDE developer <a href=\"https://nicco.love/\" rel=\"nofollow\">Niccolò</a>’s <a href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhqeuO9RKKk\" rel=\"nofollow\">hour long video</a> detailing how Bryan is a horrible, lying “journalist,” and how people <em>need to stop giving him a stage.</em></li>\n</ul>\n</li>\n<li>He also often interacts with other various degrees of right-leaning users on twitter, a platform he describes as <a href=\"https://xcancel.com/awesomekling/status/1808037244227187179\" rel=\"nofollow\">full of positive energy</a>, unlike Mastodon.\n<ul>\n<li>For fun, I would like to share with you, dear reader, <a href=\"https://xcancel.com/ThisStupidTwink/status/1800920600346567068\" rel=\"nofollow\">my favorite comic</a> about the state of twitter.</li>\n</ul>\n</li>\n</ul>\n</li>\n<li>Other quirky things about Andreas that could be irrelevant in isolation but… come on, put the pieces together.\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https://xcancel.com/awesomekling/status/1307337736299393026\" rel=\"nofollow\">Thinks the left doesn’t contribute to Open Source.</a> No idea how he measured lurkers’ political leanings, must be great gut-feelings.\n<ul>\n<li>Hey, remember that time Linus Torvalds, creator of Linux, <a href=\"https://news.itsfoss.com/linus-torvalds-woke-communists/\" rel=\"nofollow\">called himself a “woke communist”</a> on a public rant on the Fediverse?</li>\n</ul>\n</li>\n<li>Self-described <a href=\"https://xcancel.com/awesomekling/status/1812192555527774710\" rel=\"nofollow\">centrist</a>/<a href=\"https://xcancel.com/awesomekling/status/1409611469570854914\" rel=\"nofollow\">apolitical</a>.\n<ul>\n<li>I can elaborate on why this isn’t good if needed, but <a href=\"https://thenib.com/centrist-history/?id=kasia-babis&amp;t=author\" rel=\"nofollow\">I think most people get it.</a></li>\n</ul>\n</li>\n<li><a href=\"https://xcancel.com/awesomekling/status/1897616341718224934\" rel=\"nofollow\">Wary of people publicizing likes</a>.\n<ul>\n<li>Someone implied that if people didn’t like Andreas’ views now, they would’ve abhorred his Liked list before twitter privated those. It’s a random person’s word, don’t take it as fact, but I need to share this because I’ve seen similar situations before, and it wouldn’t be surprising.</li>\n</ul>\n</li>\n</ul>\n</li>\n</ul>\n<p>Would I look at that PR and say I’m not touching Andreas with a ten-foot pole? Maybe that’s excessive. Would I ignore all the rest and say he’s just misunderstood? Hell no. For all its issues, I do hope Ladybird succeeds as a new browser engine because the internet needs more of those. But I’m not touching or otherwise supporting it unless Andreas gets his shit sorted.</p>\n<p>P.S. writing this taught me some here not only don’t mind shitty people, they get mad when others point out their shittiness. I assume they also think tech should be apolitical, just like back in the 70s when DARPA developed it for the military, or like when reddit users leave for a free and open source alternative made to be censorship resistant.</p>\n","inReplyTo":"https://lemmy.ca/comment/14983279","mediaType":"text/html","source":{"content":"I'll give my take on it. Something many fail to grasp is that it's not about a singular thing, you need to look at the context. Let's go through some of it:\n\n- Andreas Kling, lead developer of (now-)Ladybird, rejects [PR](https://github.com/SerenityOS/serenity/pull/6814) that changes \"he\" to \"they\" in documentation.\n  - This is the most frequently mentioned example of Andreas' issues.\n  - The \"he\" in question referred to any user, where \"they\" is already commonly used instead by everything from companies, to news, to the Linux Kernel docs (an arguably much more important software project).\n  - Andreas' exact words: \"This project is not an appropriate arena to advertise your personal politics.\"\n  - This code was eventually merged 3 years laters in a [different PR](https://github.com/SerenityOS/serenity/pull/24648), this time described as \"Grammar fixes\" (it changes even more pronouns to gender neutral than the original did).\n    - This PR was merged two hours after its creation and, coincidentally, around a month after Andreas announced his [stepping down from the project](https://awesomekling.substack.com/p/forking-ladybird-and-stepping-down-serenityos).\n    - An [unrelated post](https://infosec.exchange/@ryanc/112719345056546400) by the contributor, same day.\n  - Someone got his attention and [tried to explain to him why that's not cool](https://xcancel.com/LeaVerou/status/1808285882970935706); he doubled down, assuming the worst from the original contributor.\n- Andreas Kling likes interacting with far-right, queerphobic, or otherwise controversial persons.\n  - Here's him calling Brendan Eich, known homophobe, kicked out of Mozilla for... being a homophobe, now CEO of the foremost crypto browser, infamous for its [bravery](https://old.reddit.com/user/lo________________ol/comments/1iya14j/brave_of_them/) and attracting like-minded fans, [\"Senpai.\"](https://xcancel.com/awesomekling/status/1895256766415597609) \n    - [A far more impressive man than Andreas will ever be](https://xcancel.com/awesomekling/status/1858506143561101348).\n    - [Brendan's great](https://xcancel.com/awesomekling/status/1888222532366405835) ...Also shouldn't have decried him in the past for being a homophobe (he did to fit in).\n    - [Memeing](https://xcancel.com/awesomekling/status/1895793153422344281) about Brendan Eich's secret to success.\n  - Here's him [welcoming Vaxry](https://xcancel.com/awesomekling/status/1895905177942868019), infamous for [the toxic community](https://drewdevault.com/2023/09/17/Hyprland-toxicity.html) of his hyprland project to the point of being kicked out of the freedesktop.org project. He's also on record saying [\"I do believe there could be arguments to sway my opinion towards genocide\"](https://drewdevault.com/2024/04/09/2024-04-09-FDO-conduct-enforcement.html). There is a print of this, somewhere. I will find it and put it here.\n  - Here's him [doing a talk with Bryan Lunduke](https://xcancel.com/LundukeJournal/status/1891603829746995267), tech's premier [transphobe](https://lunduke.locals.com/post/5515463/red-hat-vs-hyprland-silencing-political-undesirables) anti-DEI, anti-Woke conspiracy theorist with a classic far-right victim-complex.\n    - Trudging through Bryan's slop wears on the mind, but here's [another example](https://lunduke.locals.com/post/5818858/elementary-os-asahi-linux-declare-war-on-right-wing-nerds) of him being ridiculous. Highlight of the article: \"There are multiple Software and Computer organizations which have declared their support for the Trans fetish over the last few years...\"\n      - Read anything by Bryan, then look into what he's talking about. There are at least as many examples, as there are times Bryan has touched upon LGBT topics or linux in recent years.\n    - Here's relatively prominent KDE developer [Niccolò](https://nicco.love/)'s [hour long video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhqeuO9RKKk) detailing how Bryan is a horrible, lying \"journalist,\" and how people *need to stop giving him a stage.*\n  - He also often interacts with other various degrees of right-leaning users on twitter, a platform he describes as [full of positive energy](https://xcancel.com/awesomekling/status/1808037244227187179), unlike Mastodon.\n    - For fun, I would like to share with you, dear reader, [my favorite comic](https://xcancel.com/ThisStupidTwink/status/1800920600346567068) about the state of twitter.\n- Other quirky things about Andreas that could be irrelevant in isolation but... come on, put the pieces together.\n  - [Thinks the left doesn't contribute to Open Source.](https://xcancel.com/awesomekling/status/1307337736299393026) No idea how he measured lurkers' political leanings, must be great gut-feelings.\n    - Hey, remember that time Linus Torvalds, creator of Linux, [called himself a \"woke communist\"](https://news.itsfoss.com/linus-torvalds-woke-communists/) on a public rant on the Fediverse?\n  - Self-described [centrist](https://xcancel.com/awesomekling/status/1812192555527774710)/[apolitical](https://xcancel.com/awesomekling/status/1409611469570854914).\n    - I can elaborate on why this isn't good if needed, but [I think most people get it.](https://thenib.com/centrist-history/?id=kasia-babis&t=author)\n  - [Wary of people publicizing likes](https://xcancel.com/awesomekling/status/1897616341718224934).\n    - Someone implied that if people didn't like Andreas' views now, they would've abhorred his Liked list before twitter privated those. It's a random person's word, don't take it as fact, but I need to share this because I've seen similar situations before, and it wouldn't be surprising.\n\nWould I look at that PR and say I'm not touching Andreas with a ten-foot pole? Maybe that's excessive. Would I ignore all the rest and say he's just misunderstood? Hell no. For all its issues, I do hope Ladybird succeeds as a new browser engine because the internet needs more of those. But I'm not touching or otherwise supporting it unless Andreas gets his shit sorted.\n\nP.S. writing this taught me some here not only don't mind shitty people, they get mad when others point out their shittiness. I assume they also think tech should be apolitical, just like back in the 70s when DARPA developed it for the military, or like when reddit users leave for a free and open source alternative made to be censorship resistant.","mediaType":"text/markdown"},"published":"2025-03-07T06:49:46.733583Z","updated":"2025-03-15T06:21:13.348291Z","tag":[{"href":"https://lemmy.ca/u/phoenixz","name":"@phoenixz@lemmy.ca","type":"Mention"}],"distinguished":false,"audience":"https://lemmy.world/c/linuxmemes"},"cc":["https://lemmy.world/c/linuxmemes","https://lemmy.ca/u/phoenixz"],"tag":[{"href":"https://lemmy.ca/u/phoenixz","name":"@phoenixz@lemmy.ca","type":"Mention"}],"type":"Update","audience":"https://lemmy.world/c/linuxmemes"},"cc":["https://lemmy.world/c/linuxmemes/followers"],"type":"Announce","id":"https://lemmy.world/activities/announce/update/9b9b5b9f-af89-45ae-b382-5812334b6acc"}