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Twig Components
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| user_box | App\Twig\Components\UserBoxComponent | 12.0 MiB | 7.27 ms | |
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| Input props | [ "user" => App\Entity\User {#260 +avatar: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#240 …} +cover: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#241 …} +email: "DarkGamer@kbin.social" +username: "@DarkGamer@kbin.social" +roles: [] +followersCount: 0 +homepage: "front" +about: "A man of leisure living in the present, waiting for the future." +lastActive: DateTime @1710196429 {#273 : 2024-03-11 23:33:49.0 +01:00 } +markedForDeletionAt: null +fields: null +oauthGithubId: null +oauthGoogleId: null +oauthFacebookId: null +oauthKeycloakId: null +hideAdult: true +showSubscribedUsers: true +showSubscribedMagazines: true +showSubscribedDomains: true +preferredLanguages: [] +featuredMagazines: null +showProfileSubscriptions: true +showProfileFollowings: true +markNewComments: false +notifyOnNewEntry: false +notifyOnNewEntryReply: false +notifyOnNewEntryCommentReply: false +notifyOnNewPost: false +notifyOnNewPostReply: false +notifyOnNewPostCommentReply: false +addMentionsEntries: false +addMentionsPosts: true +isBanned: false +isVerified: false +isDeleted: false +isBot: false +spamProtection: true +customCss: null +ignoreMagazinesCustomCss: false +moderatorTokens: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#230 …} +magazineOwnershipRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#226 …} +moderatorRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#215 …} +entries: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#173 …} +entryVotes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#145 …} +entryComments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#118 …} +entryCommentVotes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#88 …} +posts: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#61 …} +postVotes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#76 …} +postComments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2397 …} +postCommentVotes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1770 …} +subscriptions: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1605 …} +subscribedDomains: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2435 …} +follows: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1805 …} +followers: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1856 …} +blocks: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1817 …} +blockers: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2486 …} +blockedMagazines: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2399 …} +blockedDomains: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2420 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2417 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1921 …} +violations: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2398 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1880 …} +awards: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1866 …} +subscribedCategories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1900 …} +categories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1960 …} -id: 6561 -password: "$2y$13$FiaTwPAaMGkQnQBseD6TpuzA/Nlm3uaZdlMj/G.3IG6yY4iZgOYFK" -totpSecret: null -totpBackupCodes: [] -oAuth2UserConsents: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1973 …} +apId: "DarkGamer@kbin.social" +apProfileId: "https://kbin.social/u/DarkGamer" +apPublicUrl: "https://kbin.social/u/DarkGamer" +apFollowersUrl: "https://kbin.social/u/DarkGamer/followers" +apInboxUrl: "https://kbin.social/f/inbox" +apDomain: "kbin.social" +apPreferredUsername: "DarkGamer" +apDiscoverable: true +apManuallyApprovesFollowers: false +privateKey: null +publicKey: null +apFetchedAt: DateTime @1710030049 {#276 : 2024-03-10 01:20:49.0 +01:00 } +apDeletedAt: null +apTimeoutAt: null +visibility: "visible " +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1687391708 {#272 : 2023-06-22 01:55:08.0 +02:00 } } "stretchedLink" => false ] |
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| Component | App\Twig\Components\UserBoxComponent {#2083 +user: App\Entity\User {#260 +avatar: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#240 …} +cover: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#241 …} +email: "DarkGamer@kbin.social" +username: "@DarkGamer@kbin.social" +roles: [] +followersCount: 0 +homepage: "front" +about: "A man of leisure living in the present, waiting for the future." +lastActive: DateTime @1710196429 {#273 : 2024-03-11 23:33:49.0 +01:00 } +markedForDeletionAt: null +fields: null +oauthGithubId: null +oauthGoogleId: null +oauthFacebookId: null +oauthKeycloakId: null +hideAdult: true +showSubscribedUsers: true +showSubscribedMagazines: true +showSubscribedDomains: true +preferredLanguages: [] +featuredMagazines: null +showProfileSubscriptions: true +showProfileFollowings: true +markNewComments: false +notifyOnNewEntry: false +notifyOnNewEntryReply: false +notifyOnNewEntryCommentReply: false +notifyOnNewPost: false +notifyOnNewPostReply: false +notifyOnNewPostCommentReply: false +addMentionsEntries: false +addMentionsPosts: true +isBanned: false +isVerified: false +isDeleted: false +isBot: false +spamProtection: true +customCss: null +ignoreMagazinesCustomCss: false +moderatorTokens: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#230 …} +magazineOwnershipRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#226 …} +moderatorRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#215 …} +entries: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#173 …} +entryVotes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#145 …} +entryComments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#118 …} +entryCommentVotes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#88 …} +posts: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#61 …} +postVotes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#76 …} +postComments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2397 …} +postCommentVotes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1770 …} +subscriptions: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1605 …} +subscribedDomains: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2435 …} +follows: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1805 …} +followers: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1856 …} +blocks: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1817 …} +blockers: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2486 …} +blockedMagazines: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2399 …} +blockedDomains: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2420 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2417 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1921 …} +violations: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2398 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1880 …} +awards: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1866 …} +subscribedCategories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1900 …} +categories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1960 …} -id: 6561 -password: "$2y$13$FiaTwPAaMGkQnQBseD6TpuzA/Nlm3uaZdlMj/G.3IG6yY4iZgOYFK" -totpSecret: null -totpBackupCodes: [] -oAuth2UserConsents: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1973 …} +apId: "DarkGamer@kbin.social" +apProfileId: "https://kbin.social/u/DarkGamer" +apPublicUrl: "https://kbin.social/u/DarkGamer" +apFollowersUrl: "https://kbin.social/u/DarkGamer/followers" +apInboxUrl: "https://kbin.social/f/inbox" +apDomain: "kbin.social" +apPreferredUsername: "DarkGamer" +apDiscoverable: true +apManuallyApprovesFollowers: false +privateKey: null +publicKey: null +apFetchedAt: DateTime @1710030049 {#276 : 2024-03-10 01:20:49.0 +01:00 } +apDeletedAt: null +apTimeoutAt: null +visibility: "visible " +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1687391708 {#272 : 2023-06-22 01:55:08.0 +02:00 } } +stretchedLink: false } |
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| user_avatar | App\Twig\Components\UserAvatarComponent | 12.0 MiB | 0.45 ms | |
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| Input props | [ "user" => App\Entity\User {#260 +avatar: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#240 …} +cover: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#241 …} +email: "DarkGamer@kbin.social" +username: "@DarkGamer@kbin.social" +roles: [] +followersCount: 0 +homepage: "front" +about: "A man of leisure living in the present, waiting for the future." +lastActive: DateTime @1710196429 {#273 : 2024-03-11 23:33:49.0 +01:00 } +markedForDeletionAt: null +fields: null +oauthGithubId: null +oauthGoogleId: null +oauthFacebookId: null +oauthKeycloakId: null +hideAdult: true +showSubscribedUsers: true +showSubscribedMagazines: true +showSubscribedDomains: true +preferredLanguages: [] +featuredMagazines: null +showProfileSubscriptions: true +showProfileFollowings: true +markNewComments: false +notifyOnNewEntry: false +notifyOnNewEntryReply: false +notifyOnNewEntryCommentReply: false +notifyOnNewPost: false +notifyOnNewPostReply: false +notifyOnNewPostCommentReply: false +addMentionsEntries: false +addMentionsPosts: true +isBanned: false +isVerified: false +isDeleted: false +isBot: false +spamProtection: true +customCss: null +ignoreMagazinesCustomCss: false +moderatorTokens: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#230 …} +magazineOwnershipRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#226 …} +moderatorRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#215 …} +entries: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#173 …} +entryVotes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#145 …} +entryComments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#118 …} +entryCommentVotes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#88 …} +posts: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#61 …} +postVotes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#76 …} +postComments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2397 …} +postCommentVotes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1770 …} +subscriptions: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1605 …} +subscribedDomains: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2435 …} +follows: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1805 …} +followers: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1856 …} +blocks: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1817 …} +blockers: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2486 …} +blockedMagazines: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2399 …} +blockedDomains: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2420 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2417 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1921 …} +violations: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2398 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1880 …} +awards: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1866 …} +subscribedCategories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1900 …} +categories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1960 …} -id: 6561 -password: "$2y$13$FiaTwPAaMGkQnQBseD6TpuzA/Nlm3uaZdlMj/G.3IG6yY4iZgOYFK" -totpSecret: null -totpBackupCodes: [] -oAuth2UserConsents: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1973 …} +apId: "DarkGamer@kbin.social" +apProfileId: "https://kbin.social/u/DarkGamer" +apPublicUrl: "https://kbin.social/u/DarkGamer" +apFollowersUrl: "https://kbin.social/u/DarkGamer/followers" +apInboxUrl: "https://kbin.social/f/inbox" +apDomain: "kbin.social" +apPreferredUsername: "DarkGamer" +apDiscoverable: true +apManuallyApprovesFollowers: false +privateKey: null +publicKey: null +apFetchedAt: DateTime @1710030049 {#276 : 2024-03-10 01:20:49.0 +01:00 } +apDeletedAt: null +apTimeoutAt: null +visibility: "visible " +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1687391708 {#272 : 2023-06-22 01:55:08.0 +02:00 } } "width" => 100 "height" => 100 ] |
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| Component | App\Twig\Components\UserAvatarComponent {#2279 +width: 100 +height: 100 +user: App\Entity\User {#260 +avatar: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#240 …} +cover: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#241 …} +email: "DarkGamer@kbin.social" +username: "@DarkGamer@kbin.social" +roles: [] +followersCount: 0 +homepage: "front" +about: "A man of leisure living in the present, waiting for the future." +lastActive: DateTime @1710196429 {#273 : 2024-03-11 23:33:49.0 +01:00 } +markedForDeletionAt: null +fields: null +oauthGithubId: null +oauthGoogleId: null +oauthFacebookId: null +oauthKeycloakId: null +hideAdult: true +showSubscribedUsers: true +showSubscribedMagazines: true +showSubscribedDomains: true +preferredLanguages: [] +featuredMagazines: null +showProfileSubscriptions: true +showProfileFollowings: true +markNewComments: false +notifyOnNewEntry: false +notifyOnNewEntryReply: false +notifyOnNewEntryCommentReply: false +notifyOnNewPost: false +notifyOnNewPostReply: false +notifyOnNewPostCommentReply: false +addMentionsEntries: false +addMentionsPosts: true +isBanned: false +isVerified: false +isDeleted: false +isBot: false +spamProtection: true +customCss: null +ignoreMagazinesCustomCss: false +moderatorTokens: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#230 …} +magazineOwnershipRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#226 …} +moderatorRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#215 …} +entries: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#173 …} +entryVotes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#145 …} +entryComments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#118 …} +entryCommentVotes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#88 …} +posts: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#61 …} +postVotes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#76 …} +postComments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2397 …} +postCommentVotes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1770 …} +subscriptions: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1605 …} +subscribedDomains: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2435 …} +follows: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1805 …} +followers: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1856 …} +blocks: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1817 …} +blockers: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2486 …} +blockedMagazines: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2399 …} +blockedDomains: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2420 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2417 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1921 …} +violations: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2398 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1880 …} +awards: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1866 …} +subscribedCategories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1900 …} +categories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1960 …} -id: 6561 -password: "$2y$13$FiaTwPAaMGkQnQBseD6TpuzA/Nlm3uaZdlMj/G.3IG6yY4iZgOYFK" -totpSecret: null -totpBackupCodes: [] -oAuth2UserConsents: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1973 …} +apId: "DarkGamer@kbin.social" +apProfileId: "https://kbin.social/u/DarkGamer" +apPublicUrl: "https://kbin.social/u/DarkGamer" +apFollowersUrl: "https://kbin.social/u/DarkGamer/followers" +apInboxUrl: "https://kbin.social/f/inbox" +apDomain: "kbin.social" +apPreferredUsername: "DarkGamer" +apDiscoverable: true +apManuallyApprovesFollowers: false +privateKey: null +publicKey: null +apFetchedAt: DateTime @1710030049 {#276 : 2024-03-10 01:20:49.0 +01:00 } +apDeletedAt: null +apTimeoutAt: null +visibility: "visible " +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1687391708 {#272 : 2023-06-22 01:55:08.0 +02:00 } } +asLink: false } |
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| user_actions | App\Twig\Components\UserActionsComponent | 12.0 MiB | 0.52 ms | |
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| Input props | [ "user" => App\Entity\User {#260 +avatar: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#240 …} +cover: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#241 …} +email: "DarkGamer@kbin.social" +username: "@DarkGamer@kbin.social" +roles: [] +followersCount: 0 +homepage: "front" +about: "A man of leisure living in the present, waiting for the future." +lastActive: DateTime @1710196429 {#273 : 2024-03-11 23:33:49.0 +01:00 } +markedForDeletionAt: null +fields: null +oauthGithubId: null +oauthGoogleId: null +oauthFacebookId: null +oauthKeycloakId: null +hideAdult: true +showSubscribedUsers: true +showSubscribedMagazines: true +showSubscribedDomains: true +preferredLanguages: [] +featuredMagazines: null +showProfileSubscriptions: true +showProfileFollowings: true +markNewComments: false +notifyOnNewEntry: false +notifyOnNewEntryReply: false +notifyOnNewEntryCommentReply: false +notifyOnNewPost: false +notifyOnNewPostReply: false +notifyOnNewPostCommentReply: false +addMentionsEntries: false +addMentionsPosts: true +isBanned: false +isVerified: false +isDeleted: false +isBot: false +spamProtection: true +customCss: null +ignoreMagazinesCustomCss: false +moderatorTokens: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#230 …} +magazineOwnershipRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#226 …} +moderatorRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#215 …} +entries: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#173 …} +entryVotes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#145 …} +entryComments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#118 …} +entryCommentVotes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#88 …} +posts: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#61 …} +postVotes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#76 …} +postComments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2397 …} +postCommentVotes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1770 …} +subscriptions: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1605 …} +subscribedDomains: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2435 …} +follows: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1805 …} +followers: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1856 …} +blocks: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1817 …} +blockers: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2486 …} +blockedMagazines: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2399 …} +blockedDomains: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2420 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2417 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1921 …} +violations: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2398 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1880 …} +awards: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1866 …} +subscribedCategories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1900 …} +categories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1960 …} -id: 6561 -password: "$2y$13$FiaTwPAaMGkQnQBseD6TpuzA/Nlm3uaZdlMj/G.3IG6yY4iZgOYFK" -totpSecret: null -totpBackupCodes: [] -oAuth2UserConsents: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1973 …} +apId: "DarkGamer@kbin.social" +apProfileId: "https://kbin.social/u/DarkGamer" +apPublicUrl: "https://kbin.social/u/DarkGamer" +apFollowersUrl: "https://kbin.social/u/DarkGamer/followers" +apInboxUrl: "https://kbin.social/f/inbox" +apDomain: "kbin.social" +apPreferredUsername: "DarkGamer" +apDiscoverable: true +apManuallyApprovesFollowers: false +privateKey: null +publicKey: null +apFetchedAt: DateTime @1710030049 {#276 : 2024-03-10 01:20:49.0 +01:00 } +apDeletedAt: null +apTimeoutAt: null +visibility: "visible " +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1687391708 {#272 : 2023-06-22 01:55:08.0 +02:00 } } ] |
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| Component | App\Twig\Components\UserActionsComponent {#2285 +user: App\Entity\User {#260 +avatar: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#240 …} +cover: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#241 …} +email: "DarkGamer@kbin.social" +username: "@DarkGamer@kbin.social" +roles: [] +followersCount: 0 +homepage: "front" +about: "A man of leisure living in the present, waiting for the future." +lastActive: DateTime @1710196429 {#273 : 2024-03-11 23:33:49.0 +01:00 } +markedForDeletionAt: null +fields: null +oauthGithubId: null +oauthGoogleId: null +oauthFacebookId: null +oauthKeycloakId: null +hideAdult: true +showSubscribedUsers: true +showSubscribedMagazines: true +showSubscribedDomains: true +preferredLanguages: [] +featuredMagazines: null +showProfileSubscriptions: true +showProfileFollowings: true +markNewComments: false +notifyOnNewEntry: false +notifyOnNewEntryReply: false +notifyOnNewEntryCommentReply: false +notifyOnNewPost: false +notifyOnNewPostReply: false +notifyOnNewPostCommentReply: false +addMentionsEntries: false +addMentionsPosts: true +isBanned: false +isVerified: false +isDeleted: false +isBot: false +spamProtection: true +customCss: null +ignoreMagazinesCustomCss: false +moderatorTokens: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#230 …} +magazineOwnershipRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#226 …} +moderatorRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#215 …} +entries: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#173 …} +entryVotes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#145 …} +entryComments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#118 …} +entryCommentVotes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#88 …} +posts: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#61 …} +postVotes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#76 …} +postComments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2397 …} +postCommentVotes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1770 …} +subscriptions: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1605 …} +subscribedDomains: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2435 …} +follows: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1805 …} +followers: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1856 …} +blocks: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1817 …} +blockers: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2486 …} +blockedMagazines: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2399 …} +blockedDomains: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2420 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2417 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1921 …} +violations: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2398 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1880 …} +awards: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1866 …} +subscribedCategories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1900 …} +categories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1960 …} -id: 6561 -password: "$2y$13$FiaTwPAaMGkQnQBseD6TpuzA/Nlm3uaZdlMj/G.3IG6yY4iZgOYFK" -totpSecret: null -totpBackupCodes: [] -oAuth2UserConsents: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1973 …} +apId: "DarkGamer@kbin.social" +apProfileId: "https://kbin.social/u/DarkGamer" +apPublicUrl: "https://kbin.social/u/DarkGamer" +apFollowersUrl: "https://kbin.social/u/DarkGamer/followers" +apInboxUrl: "https://kbin.social/f/inbox" +apDomain: "kbin.social" +apPreferredUsername: "DarkGamer" +apDiscoverable: true +apManuallyApprovesFollowers: false +privateKey: null +publicKey: null +apFetchedAt: DateTime @1710030049 {#276 : 2024-03-10 01:20:49.0 +01:00 } +apDeletedAt: null +apTimeoutAt: null +visibility: "visible " +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1687391708 {#272 : 2023-06-22 01:55:08.0 +02:00 } } } |
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Be civil and nice.\n 2. Try not to excessively repost, as a rule of thumb, wait at least 2 months to do it if you *have* to. 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Your concern is Palestine resisting massacre." +url: "https://lemy.lol/pictrs/image/58833b4b-c75a-428a-bafc-29e662706343.jpeg" +body: "This meme is from 2004. History repeats itself." +type: "image" +lang: "en" +isOc: false +hasEmbed: true +commentCount: 343 +favouriteCount: 1405 +score: 0 +isAdult: false +sticky: false +lastActive: DateTime @1698815619 {#2467 : 2023-11-01 06:13:39.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +adaAmount: 0 +tags: null +mentions: null +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1739 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1740 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2464 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1405 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2389 …} +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2023 …} +children: [ 1 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1666 +user: App\Entity\User {#260 +avatar: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#240 …} +cover: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#241 …} +email: "DarkGamer@kbin.social" +username: "@DarkGamer@kbin.social" +roles: [] +followersCount: 0 +homepage: "front" +about: "A man of leisure living in the present, waiting for the future." +lastActive: DateTime @1710196429 {#273 : 2024-03-11 23:33:49.0 +01:00 } +markedForDeletionAt: null +fields: null +oauthGithubId: null +oauthGoogleId: null +oauthFacebookId: null +oauthKeycloakId: null +hideAdult: true +showSubscribedUsers: true +showSubscribedMagazines: true +showSubscribedDomains: true +preferredLanguages: [] +featuredMagazines: null +showProfileSubscriptions: true +showProfileFollowings: true +markNewComments: false +notifyOnNewEntry: false +notifyOnNewEntryReply: false +notifyOnNewEntryCommentReply: false +notifyOnNewPost: false +notifyOnNewPostReply: false +notifyOnNewPostCommentReply: false +addMentionsEntries: false +addMentionsPosts: true +isBanned: false +isVerified: false +isDeleted: false +isBot: false +spamProtection: true +customCss: null +ignoreMagazinesCustomCss: false +moderatorTokens: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#230 …} +magazineOwnershipRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#226 …} +moderatorRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#215 …} +entries: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#173 …} +entryVotes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#145 …} +entryComments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#118 …} +entryCommentVotes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#88 …} +posts: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#61 …} +postVotes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#76 …} +postComments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2397 …} +postCommentVotes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1770 …} +subscriptions: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1605 …} +subscribedDomains: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2435 …} +follows: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1805 …} +followers: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1856 …} +blocks: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1817 …} +blockers: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2486 …} +blockedMagazines: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2399 …} +blockedDomains: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2420 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2417 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1921 …} +violations: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2398 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1880 …} +awards: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1866 …} +subscribedCategories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1900 …} +categories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1960 …} -id: 6561 -password: "$2y$13$FiaTwPAaMGkQnQBseD6TpuzA/Nlm3uaZdlMj/G.3IG6yY4iZgOYFK" -totpSecret: null -totpBackupCodes: [] -oAuth2UserConsents: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1973 …} +apId: "DarkGamer@kbin.social" +apProfileId: "https://kbin.social/u/DarkGamer" +apPublicUrl: "https://kbin.social/u/DarkGamer" +apFollowersUrl: "https://kbin.social/u/DarkGamer/followers" +apInboxUrl: "https://kbin.social/f/inbox" +apDomain: "kbin.social" +apPreferredUsername: "DarkGamer" +apDiscoverable: true +apManuallyApprovesFollowers: false +privateKey: null +publicKey: null +apFetchedAt: DateTime @1710030049 {#276 : 2024-03-10 01:20:49.0 +01:00 } +apDeletedAt: null +apTimeoutAt: null +visibility: "visible " +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1687391708 {#272 : 2023-06-22 01:55:08.0 +02:00 } } +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1561 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1565 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1584 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1579 …} +body: """ Thanks! I appreciate you providing sources. You've given me a lot to chew on and it's good to have additional context.\n \n Reading some more, it seems like [there is rampant mistreatment of children on both sides of this conflict,](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Children_in_the_Israeli%E2%80%93Palestinian_conflict#) if anyone is worthy of sympathy in this conflict it's children.\n \n ---\n \n > <https://www.savethechildren.net/news/%E2%80%9Ctreated-animals%E2%80%9D-palestinian-children-face-inhumane-treatment-israeli-run-prisons> \n > <https://www.savethechildren.net/news/stripped-beaten-and-blindfolded-new-research-reveals-ongoing-violence-and-abuse-palestinian>\n \n The military prison abuse issue is one I wasn't aware of, that sounds pretty terrible. Clearly the military prisons need more oversight and the courts need reform. This one does seem like an example of systemic Israeli injustice.\n \n I wonder what the best approach is to rehabilitate kids who attack soldiers with stones? It seems like they're being treated like future enemy soldiers, which may or may not be true. In any event it seems like a self-fulfilling prophecy, given the additional animosity systemic abuse like this must engender.\n \n Wouldn't negotiating peace immediately remove Palestinians from the Israeli military court's authority? Seems like constant attacks just ensure that they remain under its jurisdiction.\n \n I haven't found any articles about attempts to address this problem, I'm curious what if anything is being done in Israel about this.\n \n ---\n \n > <https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/05/palestinian-boy-mohammed-abu-khdeir-burned-alive>\n \n The [murder of Mohammed Abu Khedir](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kidnapping_and_murder_of_Mohammed_Abu_Khdeir) was a terrible crime, and the people responsible were brought to justice *by Israel.*\n \n > [Mohammed's murderers] Ben David was sentenced to life in prison and an additional 20 years. ... On 4 February, the two minors were sentenced. One was given life imprisonment, the other was sentenced to serve 21 years.\n \n ---\n \n > <https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/how-israel-protects-its-settlers-who-burn-palestinian-children-alive>\n \n Wow, talk about a biased source!\n \n > It is hard to imagine a more hypocritical display than the crocodile tears of the same leaders who perpetrated the massacre of 2,200 Palestinians in Gaza last year, more than 500 of them children, now feigning outrage at the murder of one more.\n \n According to wikipedia [regarding the duma arson attack:](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duma_arson_attack)\n \n > On 3 January 2016, 21 year old Israeli settler Amiram Ben-Uliel was indicted for the murder, along with an Israeli minor, for participation in planning the murder. In addition, along with two others, they were both charged with one count of membership in a terrorist organization.[3][4] \n > In 2020, Ben-Uliel was convicted of three counts of murder, two counts of attempted murder, three counts of arson and of conspiring to commit a racially motivated crime,[5] as part of a "terrorist act".[6] However, he was acquitted of the charge of being a member of a terror organization.[7][8] He was sentenced to life imprisonment.[9]\n \n Again, criminals who were severely punished for their crimes *by Israel.*\n \n ---\n \n > <https://www.timesofisrael.com/ending-censorship-idf-admits-officer-jailed-in-2017-raped-a-palestinian-woman/>\n \n Rapist criminal, punished and convicted *by Israel.*\n \n ---\n \n > <https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/editorial/2023-09-05/ty-article-opinion/israels-humiliating-practice-of-strip-searching-palestinian-women/0000018a-61b0-daa9-a78f-efb765a30000> ( <https://archive.ph/e43iD> )\n \n Being strip searched sucks but if someone is suspected of being armed it doesn't seem unreasonable if there's probable cause. If there isn't probable cause the soldiers should be reprimanded. If the IDF account is credible the search seems like it was done professionally by female solders. I'm not sure why this ranks among the other grievances, but this is an op-ed after all.\n \n ---\n \n Of all these only the military prison for kids reeks of systemic injustice. Most of your examples are criminals who were punished by Israel for their crimes, motivated by the cycle of animosity. If the IDF were issuing orders to rape and murder non-combatant civilians you might have a case for equivalency but I see no evidence here of anything that can justify intentionally targeting civilians like Hamas has. 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DateTimeImmutable @1697244109 {#1752 : 2023-10-14 02:41:49.0 +02:00 } +"title": 47450 } 0 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1689 +user: App\Entity\User {#260} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1561 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1565 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1683 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1579 …} +body: """ Yes [the article I linked above](https://archive.ph/Wq1FC) discusses the revised charter. I see why you chose to share it rather than the original.\n \n Hamas' original charter of course was explicitly genocidal:\n \n > Released on August 18, 1988, the original covenant spells out clearly Hamas’s genocidal intentions. Accordingly, what happened in Israel on Saturday is completely in keeping with Hamas’s explicit aims and stated objectives. It was in fact the inchoate realization of Hamas’s true ambitions. \n > The most relevant of the document’s 36 articles can be summarized as falling within four main themes:\n > \n > 1. The complete destruction of Israel as an essential condition for the liberation of Palestine and the establishment of a theocratic state based on Islamic law (Sharia),\n > 2. The need for both unrestrained and unceasing holy war (jihad) to attain the above objective,\n > 3. The deliberate disdain for, and dismissal of, any negotiated resolution or political settlement of Jewish and Muslim claims to the Holy Land, and\n > 4. The reinforcement of historical anti-Semitic tropes and calumnies married to sinister conspiracy theories. ...\n \n > After some general explanatory language about Hamas’s religious foundation and noble intentions, the covenant comes to the Islamic Resistance Movement’s raison d’être: the slaughter of Jews. “The Day of Judgement will not come about,” it proclaims, “until Moslems fight the Jews (killing the Jews), when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Moslems, O Abdulla, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him.”\n \n Regarding the new one, the one you linked:\n \n > **A Kinder, Gentler Charter?** \n > On May 1, 2017, Hamas issued a revised charter. Gone were the “vague religious rhetoric and outlandish utopian pronouncements” of the earlier document, according to analysis prepared for the Institute of Palestine Studies. Instead, the new charter was redolent of “straightforward and mostly pragmatic political language” that had “shifted the movement’s positions and policies further toward the spheres of pragmatism and nationalism as opposed to dogma and Islamism.” Nonetheless, the analyst was struck by “the movement’s adherence to its founding principles” alongside newly crafted, “carefully worded” language suggesting moderation and flexibility. \n > Israel immediately dismissed the group’s effort to promote a kinder, gentler image of its once avowedly bloodthirsty agenda. “Hamas is attempting to fool the world, but it will not succeed,” a spokesperson from Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s office predicted. \n > In fact, the new document differs little from its predecessor. Much like the original, the new document asserts Hamas’s long-standing goal of establishing a sovereign, Islamist Palestinian state that extends, according to Article 2, from the Jordan River to the Mediterranean Sea and from the Lebanese border to the Israeli city of Eilat—in other words, through the entirety of Israel, the West Bank, and Gaza. And it is similarly unequivocal about “the right of return” of all Palestinian refugees displaced as a result of the 1948 and 1967 wars (Article 12)—which is portrayed as “a natural right, both individual and collective,” divinely ordained and “inalienable.” That right, therefore “cannot be dispensed with by any party, whether Palestinian, Arab or international,” thus again rendering negotiations or efforts to achieve any kind of political settlement between Israel and the Palestinians irrelevant, void, or both. Article 27 forcefully reinforces this point: “There is no alternative to a fully sovereign Palestinian State on the entire national Palestinian soil, with Jerusalem as its capital.” \n > The most striking departure from the 1988 charter is that the 2017 statement of principles and objectives now claims that Hamas is not anti-Jewish but anti-Zionist and, accordingly, sees “Zionists” and not “Jews” as the preeminent enemy and target of its opprobrium. The revised document therefore modulates the blatantly anti-Semitic rhetoric of its predecessor but once again decries Zionism as central to a dark, conspiratorial plot of global dimensions. \n > For centuries, Jews have been blamed for causing the anti-Semitism directed against them. 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I appreciate you providing sources. You've given me a lot to chew on and it's good to have additional context.\n \n Reading some more, it seems like [there is rampant mistreatment of children on both sides of this conflict,](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Children_in_the_Israeli%E2%80%93Palestinian_conflict#) if anyone is worthy of sympathy in this conflict it's children.\n \n ---\n \n > <https://www.savethechildren.net/news/%E2%80%9Ctreated-animals%E2%80%9D-palestinian-children-face-inhumane-treatment-israeli-run-prisons> \n > <https://www.savethechildren.net/news/stripped-beaten-and-blindfolded-new-research-reveals-ongoing-violence-and-abuse-palestinian>\n \n The military prison abuse issue is one I wasn't aware of, that sounds pretty terrible. Clearly the military prisons need more oversight and the courts need reform. This one does seem like an example of systemic Israeli injustice.\n \n I wonder what the best approach is to rehabilitate kids who attack soldiers with stones? It seems like they're being treated like future enemy soldiers, which may or may not be true. In any event it seems like a self-fulfilling prophecy, given the additional animosity systemic abuse like this must engender.\n \n Wouldn't negotiating peace immediately remove Palestinians from the Israeli military court's authority? Seems like constant attacks just ensure that they remain under its jurisdiction.\n \n I haven't found any articles about attempts to address this problem, I'm curious what if anything is being done in Israel about this.\n \n ---\n \n > <https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/05/palestinian-boy-mohammed-abu-khdeir-burned-alive>\n \n The [murder of Mohammed Abu Khedir](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kidnapping_and_murder_of_Mohammed_Abu_Khdeir) was a terrible crime, and the people responsible were brought to justice *by Israel.*\n \n > [Mohammed's murderers] Ben David was sentenced to life in prison and an additional 20 years. ... On 4 February, the two minors were sentenced. One was given life imprisonment, the other was sentenced to serve 21 years.\n \n ---\n \n > <https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/how-israel-protects-its-settlers-who-burn-palestinian-children-alive>\n \n Wow, talk about a biased source!\n \n > It is hard to imagine a more hypocritical display than the crocodile tears of the same leaders who perpetrated the massacre of 2,200 Palestinians in Gaza last year, more than 500 of them children, now feigning outrage at the murder of one more.\n \n According to wikipedia [regarding the duma arson attack:](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duma_arson_attack)\n \n > On 3 January 2016, 21 year old Israeli settler Amiram Ben-Uliel was indicted for the murder, along with an Israeli minor, for participation in planning the murder. In addition, along with two others, they were both charged with one count of membership in a terrorist organization.[3][4] \n > In 2020, Ben-Uliel was convicted of three counts of murder, two counts of attempted murder, three counts of arson and of conspiring to commit a racially motivated crime,[5] as part of a "terrorist act".[6] However, he was acquitted of the charge of being a member of a terror organization.[7][8] He was sentenced to life imprisonment.[9]\n \n Again, criminals who were severely punished for their crimes *by Israel.*\n \n ---\n \n > <https://www.timesofisrael.com/ending-censorship-idf-admits-officer-jailed-in-2017-raped-a-palestinian-woman/>\n \n Rapist criminal, punished and convicted *by Israel.*\n \n ---\n \n > <https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/editorial/2023-09-05/ty-article-opinion/israels-humiliating-practice-of-strip-searching-palestinian-women/0000018a-61b0-daa9-a78f-efb765a30000> ( <https://archive.ph/e43iD> )\n \n Being strip searched sucks but if someone is suspected of being armed it doesn't seem unreasonable if there's probable cause. If there isn't probable cause the soldiers should be reprimanded. If the IDF account is credible the search seems like it was done professionally by female solders. I'm not sure why this ranks among the other grievances, but this is an op-ed after all.\n \n ---\n \n Of all these only the military prison for kids reeks of systemic injustice. Most of your examples are criminals who were punished by Israel for their crimes, motivated by the cycle of animosity. If the IDF were issuing orders to rape and murder non-combatant civilians you might have a case for equivalency but I see no evidence here of anything that can justify intentionally targeting civilians like Hamas has. 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I see why you chose to share it rather than the original.\n \n Hamas' original charter of course was explicitly genocidal:\n \n > Released on August 18, 1988, the original covenant spells out clearly Hamas’s genocidal intentions. Accordingly, what happened in Israel on Saturday is completely in keeping with Hamas’s explicit aims and stated objectives. It was in fact the inchoate realization of Hamas’s true ambitions. \n > The most relevant of the document’s 36 articles can be summarized as falling within four main themes:\n > \n > 1. The complete destruction of Israel as an essential condition for the liberation of Palestine and the establishment of a theocratic state based on Islamic law (Sharia),\n > 2. The need for both unrestrained and unceasing holy war (jihad) to attain the above objective,\n > 3. The deliberate disdain for, and dismissal of, any negotiated resolution or political settlement of Jewish and Muslim claims to the Holy Land, and\n > 4. The reinforcement of historical anti-Semitic tropes and calumnies married to sinister conspiracy theories. ...\n \n > After some general explanatory language about Hamas’s religious foundation and noble intentions, the covenant comes to the Islamic Resistance Movement’s raison d’être: the slaughter of Jews. “The Day of Judgement will not come about,” it proclaims, “until Moslems fight the Jews (killing the Jews), when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Moslems, O Abdulla, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him.”\n \n Regarding the new one, the one you linked:\n \n > **A Kinder, Gentler Charter?** \n > On May 1, 2017, Hamas issued a revised charter. Gone were the “vague religious rhetoric and outlandish utopian pronouncements” of the earlier document, according to analysis prepared for the Institute of Palestine Studies. Instead, the new charter was redolent of “straightforward and mostly pragmatic political language” that had “shifted the movement’s positions and policies further toward the spheres of pragmatism and nationalism as opposed to dogma and Islamism.” Nonetheless, the analyst was struck by “the movement’s adherence to its founding principles” alongside newly crafted, “carefully worded” language suggesting moderation and flexibility. \n > Israel immediately dismissed the group’s effort to promote a kinder, gentler image of its once avowedly bloodthirsty agenda. “Hamas is attempting to fool the world, but it will not succeed,” a spokesperson from Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s office predicted. \n > In fact, the new document differs little from its predecessor. Much like the original, the new document asserts Hamas’s long-standing goal of establishing a sovereign, Islamist Palestinian state that extends, according to Article 2, from the Jordan River to the Mediterranean Sea and from the Lebanese border to the Israeli city of Eilat—in other words, through the entirety of Israel, the West Bank, and Gaza. And it is similarly unequivocal about “the right of return” of all Palestinian refugees displaced as a result of the 1948 and 1967 wars (Article 12)—which is portrayed as “a natural right, both individual and collective,” divinely ordained and “inalienable.” That right, therefore “cannot be dispensed with by any party, whether Palestinian, Arab or international,” thus again rendering negotiations or efforts to achieve any kind of political settlement between Israel and the Palestinians irrelevant, void, or both. Article 27 forcefully reinforces this point: “There is no alternative to a fully sovereign Palestinian State on the entire national Palestinian soil, with Jerusalem as its capital.” \n > The most striking departure from the 1988 charter is that the 2017 statement of principles and objectives now claims that Hamas is not anti-Jewish but anti-Zionist and, accordingly, sees “Zionists” and not “Jews” as the preeminent enemy and target of its opprobrium. The revised document therefore modulates the blatantly anti-Semitic rhetoric of its predecessor but once again decries Zionism as central to a dark, conspiratorial plot of global dimensions. \n > For centuries, Jews have been blamed for causing the anti-Semitism directed against them. The new Hamas charter perpetuates this libel, arguing, “It is the Zionists who constantly identify Judaism and the Jews with their own colonial project and illegal entity” and who are therefore responsible for the conflation of anti-Zionism and anti-Semitism.\n \n It seems like Hamas revised some of the more objectionable language in the original, but they are still Hamas, and their intentions are quite clear both by word and deed. 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I appreciate you providing sources. You've given me a lot to chew on and it's good to have additional context.\n \n Reading some more, it seems like [there is rampant mistreatment of children on both sides of this conflict,](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Children_in_the_Israeli%E2%80%93Palestinian_conflict#) if anyone is worthy of sympathy in this conflict it's children.\n \n ---\n \n > <https://www.savethechildren.net/news/%E2%80%9Ctreated-animals%E2%80%9D-palestinian-children-face-inhumane-treatment-israeli-run-prisons> \n > <https://www.savethechildren.net/news/stripped-beaten-and-blindfolded-new-research-reveals-ongoing-violence-and-abuse-palestinian>\n \n The military prison abuse issue is one I wasn't aware of, that sounds pretty terrible. Clearly the military prisons need more oversight and the courts need reform. This one does seem like an example of systemic Israeli injustice.\n \n I wonder what the best approach is to rehabilitate kids who attack soldiers with stones? It seems like they're being treated like future enemy soldiers, which may or may not be true. In any event it seems like a self-fulfilling prophecy, given the additional animosity systemic abuse like this must engender.\n \n Wouldn't negotiating peace immediately remove Palestinians from the Israeli military court's authority? Seems like constant attacks just ensure that they remain under its jurisdiction.\n \n I haven't found any articles about attempts to address this problem, I'm curious what if anything is being done in Israel about this.\n \n ---\n \n > <https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/05/palestinian-boy-mohammed-abu-khdeir-burned-alive>\n \n The [murder of Mohammed Abu Khedir](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kidnapping_and_murder_of_Mohammed_Abu_Khdeir) was a terrible crime, and the people responsible were brought to justice *by Israel.*\n \n > [Mohammed's murderers] Ben David was sentenced to life in prison and an additional 20 years. ... On 4 February, the two minors were sentenced. One was given life imprisonment, the other was sentenced to serve 21 years.\n \n ---\n \n > <https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/how-israel-protects-its-settlers-who-burn-palestinian-children-alive>\n \n Wow, talk about a biased source!\n \n > It is hard to imagine a more hypocritical display than the crocodile tears of the same leaders who perpetrated the massacre of 2,200 Palestinians in Gaza last year, more than 500 of them children, now feigning outrage at the murder of one more.\n \n According to wikipedia [regarding the duma arson attack:](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duma_arson_attack)\n \n > On 3 January 2016, 21 year old Israeli settler Amiram Ben-Uliel was indicted for the murder, along with an Israeli minor, for participation in planning the murder. In addition, along with two others, they were both charged with one count of membership in a terrorist organization.[3][4] \n > In 2020, Ben-Uliel was convicted of three counts of murder, two counts of attempted murder, three counts of arson and of conspiring to commit a racially motivated crime,[5] as part of a "terrorist act".[6] However, he was acquitted of the charge of being a member of a terror organization.[7][8] He was sentenced to life imprisonment.[9]\n \n Again, criminals who were severely punished for their crimes *by Israel.*\n \n ---\n \n > <https://www.timesofisrael.com/ending-censorship-idf-admits-officer-jailed-in-2017-raped-a-palestinian-woman/>\n \n Rapist criminal, punished and convicted *by Israel.*\n \n ---\n \n > <https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/editorial/2023-09-05/ty-article-opinion/israels-humiliating-practice-of-strip-searching-palestinian-women/0000018a-61b0-daa9-a78f-efb765a30000> ( <https://archive.ph/e43iD> )\n \n Being strip searched sucks but if someone is suspected of being armed it doesn't seem unreasonable if there's probable cause. If there isn't probable cause the soldiers should be reprimanded. If the IDF account is credible the search seems like it was done professionally by female solders. I'm not sure why this ranks among the other grievances, but this is an op-ed after all.\n \n ---\n \n Of all these only the military prison for kids reeks of systemic injustice. Most of your examples are criminals who were punished by Israel for their crimes, motivated by the cycle of animosity. If the IDF were issuing orders to rape and murder non-combatant civilians you might have a case for equivalency but I see no evidence here of anything that can justify intentionally targeting civilians like Hamas has. 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I see why you chose to share it rather than the original.\n \n Hamas' original charter of course was explicitly genocidal:\n \n > Released on August 18, 1988, the original covenant spells out clearly Hamas’s genocidal intentions. Accordingly, what happened in Israel on Saturday is completely in keeping with Hamas’s explicit aims and stated objectives. It was in fact the inchoate realization of Hamas’s true ambitions. \n > The most relevant of the document’s 36 articles can be summarized as falling within four main themes:\n > \n > 1. The complete destruction of Israel as an essential condition for the liberation of Palestine and the establishment of a theocratic state based on Islamic law (Sharia),\n > 2. The need for both unrestrained and unceasing holy war (jihad) to attain the above objective,\n > 3. The deliberate disdain for, and dismissal of, any negotiated resolution or political settlement of Jewish and Muslim claims to the Holy Land, and\n > 4. The reinforcement of historical anti-Semitic tropes and calumnies married to sinister conspiracy theories. ...\n \n > After some general explanatory language about Hamas’s religious foundation and noble intentions, the covenant comes to the Islamic Resistance Movement’s raison d’être: the slaughter of Jews. “The Day of Judgement will not come about,” it proclaims, “until Moslems fight the Jews (killing the Jews), when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Moslems, O Abdulla, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him.”\n \n Regarding the new one, the one you linked:\n \n > **A Kinder, Gentler Charter?** \n > On May 1, 2017, Hamas issued a revised charter. Gone were the “vague religious rhetoric and outlandish utopian pronouncements” of the earlier document, according to analysis prepared for the Institute of Palestine Studies. Instead, the new charter was redolent of “straightforward and mostly pragmatic political language” that had “shifted the movement’s positions and policies further toward the spheres of pragmatism and nationalism as opposed to dogma and Islamism.” Nonetheless, the analyst was struck by “the movement’s adherence to its founding principles” alongside newly crafted, “carefully worded” language suggesting moderation and flexibility. \n > Israel immediately dismissed the group’s effort to promote a kinder, gentler image of its once avowedly bloodthirsty agenda. “Hamas is attempting to fool the world, but it will not succeed,” a spokesperson from Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s office predicted. \n > In fact, the new document differs little from its predecessor. Much like the original, the new document asserts Hamas’s long-standing goal of establishing a sovereign, Islamist Palestinian state that extends, according to Article 2, from the Jordan River to the Mediterranean Sea and from the Lebanese border to the Israeli city of Eilat—in other words, through the entirety of Israel, the West Bank, and Gaza. And it is similarly unequivocal about “the right of return” of all Palestinian refugees displaced as a result of the 1948 and 1967 wars (Article 12)—which is portrayed as “a natural right, both individual and collective,” divinely ordained and “inalienable.” That right, therefore “cannot be dispensed with by any party, whether Palestinian, Arab or international,” thus again rendering negotiations or efforts to achieve any kind of political settlement between Israel and the Palestinians irrelevant, void, or both. Article 27 forcefully reinforces this point: “There is no alternative to a fully sovereign Palestinian State on the entire national Palestinian soil, with Jerusalem as its capital.” \n > The most striking departure from the 1988 charter is that the 2017 statement of principles and objectives now claims that Hamas is not anti-Jewish but anti-Zionist and, accordingly, sees “Zionists” and not “Jews” as the preeminent enemy and target of its opprobrium. The revised document therefore modulates the blatantly anti-Semitic rhetoric of its predecessor but once again decries Zionism as central to a dark, conspiratorial plot of global dimensions. \n > For centuries, Jews have been blamed for causing the anti-Semitism directed against them. The new Hamas charter perpetuates this libel, arguing, “It is the Zionists who constantly identify Judaism and the Jews with their own colonial project and illegal entity” and who are therefore responsible for the conflation of anti-Zionism and anti-Semitism.\n \n It seems like Hamas revised some of the more objectionable language in the original, but they are still Hamas, and their intentions are quite clear both by word and deed. 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History repeats itself." +type: "image" +lang: "en" +isOc: false +hasEmbed: true +commentCount: 343 +favouriteCount: 1405 +score: 0 +isAdult: false +sticky: false +lastActive: DateTime @1698815619 {#2467 : 2023-11-01 06:13:39.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +adaAmount: 0 +tags: null +mentions: null +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1739 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1740 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2464 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1405 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2389 …} +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2023 …} +children: [ 1 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1666 +user: App\Entity\User {#260 +avatar: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#240 …} +cover: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#241 …} +email: "DarkGamer@kbin.social" +username: "@DarkGamer@kbin.social" +roles: [] +followersCount: 0 +homepage: "front" +about: "A man of leisure living in the present, waiting for the future." +lastActive: DateTime @1710196429 {#273 : 2024-03-11 23:33:49.0 +01:00 } +markedForDeletionAt: null +fields: null +oauthGithubId: null +oauthGoogleId: null +oauthFacebookId: null +oauthKeycloakId: null +hideAdult: true +showSubscribedUsers: true +showSubscribedMagazines: true +showSubscribedDomains: true +preferredLanguages: [] +featuredMagazines: null +showProfileSubscriptions: true +showProfileFollowings: true +markNewComments: false +notifyOnNewEntry: false +notifyOnNewEntryReply: false +notifyOnNewEntryCommentReply: false +notifyOnNewPost: false +notifyOnNewPostReply: false +notifyOnNewPostCommentReply: false +addMentionsEntries: false +addMentionsPosts: true +isBanned: false +isVerified: false +isDeleted: false +isBot: false +spamProtection: true +customCss: null +ignoreMagazinesCustomCss: false +moderatorTokens: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#230 …} +magazineOwnershipRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#226 …} +moderatorRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#215 …} +entries: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#173 …} +entryVotes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#145 …} +entryComments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#118 …} +entryCommentVotes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#88 …} +posts: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#61 …} +postVotes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#76 …} +postComments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2397 …} +postCommentVotes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1770 …} +subscriptions: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1605 …} +subscribedDomains: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2435 …} +follows: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1805 …} +followers: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1856 …} +blocks: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1817 …} +blockers: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2486 …} +blockedMagazines: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2399 …} +blockedDomains: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2420 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2417 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1921 …} +violations: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2398 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1880 …} +awards: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1866 …} +subscribedCategories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1900 …} +categories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1960 …} -id: 6561 -password: "$2y$13$FiaTwPAaMGkQnQBseD6TpuzA/Nlm3uaZdlMj/G.3IG6yY4iZgOYFK" -totpSecret: null -totpBackupCodes: [] -oAuth2UserConsents: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1973 …} +apId: "DarkGamer@kbin.social" +apProfileId: "https://kbin.social/u/DarkGamer" +apPublicUrl: "https://kbin.social/u/DarkGamer" +apFollowersUrl: "https://kbin.social/u/DarkGamer/followers" +apInboxUrl: "https://kbin.social/f/inbox" +apDomain: "kbin.social" +apPreferredUsername: "DarkGamer" +apDiscoverable: true +apManuallyApprovesFollowers: false +privateKey: null +publicKey: null +apFetchedAt: DateTime @1710030049 {#276 : 2024-03-10 01:20:49.0 +01:00 } +apDeletedAt: null +apTimeoutAt: null +visibility: "visible " +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1687391708 {#272 : 2023-06-22 01:55:08.0 +02:00 } } +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1561 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1565 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1584 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1579 …} +body: """ Thanks! I appreciate you providing sources. You've given me a lot to chew on and it's good to have additional context.\n \n Reading some more, it seems like [there is rampant mistreatment of children on both sides of this conflict,](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Children_in_the_Israeli%E2%80%93Palestinian_conflict#) if anyone is worthy of sympathy in this conflict it's children.\n \n ---\n \n > <https://www.savethechildren.net/news/%E2%80%9Ctreated-animals%E2%80%9D-palestinian-children-face-inhumane-treatment-israeli-run-prisons> \n > <https://www.savethechildren.net/news/stripped-beaten-and-blindfolded-new-research-reveals-ongoing-violence-and-abuse-palestinian>\n \n The military prison abuse issue is one I wasn't aware of, that sounds pretty terrible. Clearly the military prisons need more oversight and the courts need reform. This one does seem like an example of systemic Israeli injustice.\n \n I wonder what the best approach is to rehabilitate kids who attack soldiers with stones? It seems like they're being treated like future enemy soldiers, which may or may not be true. In any event it seems like a self-fulfilling prophecy, given the additional animosity systemic abuse like this must engender.\n \n Wouldn't negotiating peace immediately remove Palestinians from the Israeli military court's authority? Seems like constant attacks just ensure that they remain under its jurisdiction.\n \n I haven't found any articles about attempts to address this problem, I'm curious what if anything is being done in Israel about this.\n \n ---\n \n > <https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/05/palestinian-boy-mohammed-abu-khdeir-burned-alive>\n \n The [murder of Mohammed Abu Khedir](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kidnapping_and_murder_of_Mohammed_Abu_Khdeir) was a terrible crime, and the people responsible were brought to justice *by Israel.*\n \n > [Mohammed's murderers] Ben David was sentenced to life in prison and an additional 20 years. ... On 4 February, the two minors were sentenced. One was given life imprisonment, the other was sentenced to serve 21 years.\n \n ---\n \n > <https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/how-israel-protects-its-settlers-who-burn-palestinian-children-alive>\n \n Wow, talk about a biased source!\n \n > It is hard to imagine a more hypocritical display than the crocodile tears of the same leaders who perpetrated the massacre of 2,200 Palestinians in Gaza last year, more than 500 of them children, now feigning outrage at the murder of one more.\n \n According to wikipedia [regarding the duma arson attack:](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duma_arson_attack)\n \n > On 3 January 2016, 21 year old Israeli settler Amiram Ben-Uliel was indicted for the murder, along with an Israeli minor, for participation in planning the murder. In addition, along with two others, they were both charged with one count of membership in a terrorist organization.[3][4] \n > In 2020, Ben-Uliel was convicted of three counts of murder, two counts of attempted murder, three counts of arson and of conspiring to commit a racially motivated crime,[5] as part of a "terrorist act".[6] However, he was acquitted of the charge of being a member of a terror organization.[7][8] He was sentenced to life imprisonment.[9]\n \n Again, criminals who were severely punished for their crimes *by Israel.*\n \n ---\n \n > <https://www.timesofisrael.com/ending-censorship-idf-admits-officer-jailed-in-2017-raped-a-palestinian-woman/>\n \n Rapist criminal, punished and convicted *by Israel.*\n \n ---\n \n > <https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/editorial/2023-09-05/ty-article-opinion/israels-humiliating-practice-of-strip-searching-palestinian-women/0000018a-61b0-daa9-a78f-efb765a30000> ( <https://archive.ph/e43iD> )\n \n Being strip searched sucks but if someone is suspected of being armed it doesn't seem unreasonable if there's probable cause. If there isn't probable cause the soldiers should be reprimanded. If the IDF account is credible the search seems like it was done professionally by female solders. I'm not sure why this ranks among the other grievances, but this is an op-ed after all.\n \n ---\n \n Of all these only the military prison for kids reeks of systemic injustice. Most of your examples are criminals who were punished by Israel for their crimes, motivated by the cycle of animosity. If the IDF were issuing orders to rape and murder non-combatant civilians you might have a case for equivalency but I see no evidence here of anything that can justify intentionally targeting civilians like Hamas has. 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DateTimeImmutable @1697244109 {#1752 : 2023-10-14 02:41:49.0 +02:00 } +"title": 47450 } 0 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1689 +user: App\Entity\User {#260} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1561 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1565 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1683 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1579 …} +body: """ Yes [the article I linked above](https://archive.ph/Wq1FC) discusses the revised charter. I see why you chose to share it rather than the original.\n \n Hamas' original charter of course was explicitly genocidal:\n \n > Released on August 18, 1988, the original covenant spells out clearly Hamas’s genocidal intentions. Accordingly, what happened in Israel on Saturday is completely in keeping with Hamas’s explicit aims and stated objectives. It was in fact the inchoate realization of Hamas’s true ambitions. \n > The most relevant of the document’s 36 articles can be summarized as falling within four main themes:\n > \n > 1. The complete destruction of Israel as an essential condition for the liberation of Palestine and the establishment of a theocratic state based on Islamic law (Sharia),\n > 2. The need for both unrestrained and unceasing holy war (jihad) to attain the above objective,\n > 3. The deliberate disdain for, and dismissal of, any negotiated resolution or political settlement of Jewish and Muslim claims to the Holy Land, and\n > 4. The reinforcement of historical anti-Semitic tropes and calumnies married to sinister conspiracy theories. ...\n \n > After some general explanatory language about Hamas’s religious foundation and noble intentions, the covenant comes to the Islamic Resistance Movement’s raison d’être: the slaughter of Jews. “The Day of Judgement will not come about,” it proclaims, “until Moslems fight the Jews (killing the Jews), when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Moslems, O Abdulla, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him.”\n \n Regarding the new one, the one you linked:\n \n > **A Kinder, Gentler Charter?** \n > On May 1, 2017, Hamas issued a revised charter. Gone were the “vague religious rhetoric and outlandish utopian pronouncements” of the earlier document, according to analysis prepared for the Institute of Palestine Studies. Instead, the new charter was redolent of “straightforward and mostly pragmatic political language” that had “shifted the movement’s positions and policies further toward the spheres of pragmatism and nationalism as opposed to dogma and Islamism.” Nonetheless, the analyst was struck by “the movement’s adherence to its founding principles” alongside newly crafted, “carefully worded” language suggesting moderation and flexibility. \n > Israel immediately dismissed the group’s effort to promote a kinder, gentler image of its once avowedly bloodthirsty agenda. “Hamas is attempting to fool the world, but it will not succeed,” a spokesperson from Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s office predicted. \n > In fact, the new document differs little from its predecessor. Much like the original, the new document asserts Hamas’s long-standing goal of establishing a sovereign, Islamist Palestinian state that extends, according to Article 2, from the Jordan River to the Mediterranean Sea and from the Lebanese border to the Israeli city of Eilat—in other words, through the entirety of Israel, the West Bank, and Gaza. And it is similarly unequivocal about “the right of return” of all Palestinian refugees displaced as a result of the 1948 and 1967 wars (Article 12)—which is portrayed as “a natural right, both individual and collective,” divinely ordained and “inalienable.” That right, therefore “cannot be dispensed with by any party, whether Palestinian, Arab or international,” thus again rendering negotiations or efforts to achieve any kind of political settlement between Israel and the Palestinians irrelevant, void, or both. Article 27 forcefully reinforces this point: “There is no alternative to a fully sovereign Palestinian State on the entire national Palestinian soil, with Jerusalem as its capital.” \n > The most striking departure from the 1988 charter is that the 2017 statement of principles and objectives now claims that Hamas is not anti-Jewish but anti-Zionist and, accordingly, sees “Zionists” and not “Jews” as the preeminent enemy and target of its opprobrium. The revised document therefore modulates the blatantly anti-Semitic rhetoric of its predecessor but once again decries Zionism as central to a dark, conspiratorial plot of global dimensions. \n > For centuries, Jews have been blamed for causing the anti-Semitism directed against them. The new Hamas charter perpetuates this libel, arguing, “It is the Zionists who constantly identify Judaism and the Jews with their own colonial project and illegal entity” and who are therefore responsible for the conflation of anti-Zionism and anti-Semitism.\n \n It seems like Hamas revised some of the more objectionable language in the original, but they are still Hamas, and their intentions are quite clear both by word and deed. 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I appreciate you providing sources. You've given me a lot to chew on and it's good to have additional context.\n \n Reading some more, it seems like [there is rampant mistreatment of children on both sides of this conflict,](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Children_in_the_Israeli%E2%80%93Palestinian_conflict#) if anyone is worthy of sympathy in this conflict it's children.\n \n ---\n \n > <https://www.savethechildren.net/news/%E2%80%9Ctreated-animals%E2%80%9D-palestinian-children-face-inhumane-treatment-israeli-run-prisons> \n > <https://www.savethechildren.net/news/stripped-beaten-and-blindfolded-new-research-reveals-ongoing-violence-and-abuse-palestinian>\n \n The military prison abuse issue is one I wasn't aware of, that sounds pretty terrible. Clearly the military prisons need more oversight and the courts need reform. This one does seem like an example of systemic Israeli injustice.\n \n I wonder what the best approach is to rehabilitate kids who attack soldiers with stones? It seems like they're being treated like future enemy soldiers, which may or may not be true. In any event it seems like a self-fulfilling prophecy, given the additional animosity systemic abuse like this must engender.\n \n Wouldn't negotiating peace immediately remove Palestinians from the Israeli military court's authority? Seems like constant attacks just ensure that they remain under its jurisdiction.\n \n I haven't found any articles about attempts to address this problem, I'm curious what if anything is being done in Israel about this.\n \n ---\n \n > <https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/05/palestinian-boy-mohammed-abu-khdeir-burned-alive>\n \n The [murder of Mohammed Abu Khedir](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kidnapping_and_murder_of_Mohammed_Abu_Khdeir) was a terrible crime, and the people responsible were brought to justice *by Israel.*\n \n > [Mohammed's murderers] Ben David was sentenced to life in prison and an additional 20 years. ... On 4 February, the two minors were sentenced. One was given life imprisonment, the other was sentenced to serve 21 years.\n \n ---\n \n > <https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/how-israel-protects-its-settlers-who-burn-palestinian-children-alive>\n \n Wow, talk about a biased source!\n \n > It is hard to imagine a more hypocritical display than the crocodile tears of the same leaders who perpetrated the massacre of 2,200 Palestinians in Gaza last year, more than 500 of them children, now feigning outrage at the murder of one more.\n \n According to wikipedia [regarding the duma arson attack:](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duma_arson_attack)\n \n > On 3 January 2016, 21 year old Israeli settler Amiram Ben-Uliel was indicted for the murder, along with an Israeli minor, for participation in planning the murder. In addition, along with two others, they were both charged with one count of membership in a terrorist organization.[3][4] \n > In 2020, Ben-Uliel was convicted of three counts of murder, two counts of attempted murder, three counts of arson and of conspiring to commit a racially motivated crime,[5] as part of a "terrorist act".[6] However, he was acquitted of the charge of being a member of a terror organization.[7][8] He was sentenced to life imprisonment.[9]\n \n Again, criminals who were severely punished for their crimes *by Israel.*\n \n ---\n \n > <https://www.timesofisrael.com/ending-censorship-idf-admits-officer-jailed-in-2017-raped-a-palestinian-woman/>\n \n Rapist criminal, punished and convicted *by Israel.*\n \n ---\n \n > <https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/editorial/2023-09-05/ty-article-opinion/israels-humiliating-practice-of-strip-searching-palestinian-women/0000018a-61b0-daa9-a78f-efb765a30000> ( <https://archive.ph/e43iD> )\n \n Being strip searched sucks but if someone is suspected of being armed it doesn't seem unreasonable if there's probable cause. If there isn't probable cause the soldiers should be reprimanded. If the IDF account is credible the search seems like it was done professionally by female solders. I'm not sure why this ranks among the other grievances, but this is an op-ed after all.\n \n ---\n \n Of all these only the military prison for kids reeks of systemic injustice. Most of your examples are criminals who were punished by Israel for their crimes, motivated by the cycle of animosity. If the IDF were issuing orders to rape and murder non-combatant civilians you might have a case for equivalency but I see no evidence here of anything that can justify intentionally targeting civilians like Hamas has. 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I see why you chose to share it rather than the original.\n \n Hamas' original charter of course was explicitly genocidal:\n \n > Released on August 18, 1988, the original covenant spells out clearly Hamas’s genocidal intentions. Accordingly, what happened in Israel on Saturday is completely in keeping with Hamas’s explicit aims and stated objectives. It was in fact the inchoate realization of Hamas’s true ambitions. \n > The most relevant of the document’s 36 articles can be summarized as falling within four main themes:\n > \n > 1. The complete destruction of Israel as an essential condition for the liberation of Palestine and the establishment of a theocratic state based on Islamic law (Sharia),\n > 2. The need for both unrestrained and unceasing holy war (jihad) to attain the above objective,\n > 3. The deliberate disdain for, and dismissal of, any negotiated resolution or political settlement of Jewish and Muslim claims to the Holy Land, and\n > 4. The reinforcement of historical anti-Semitic tropes and calumnies married to sinister conspiracy theories. ...\n \n > After some general explanatory language about Hamas’s religious foundation and noble intentions, the covenant comes to the Islamic Resistance Movement’s raison d’être: the slaughter of Jews. “The Day of Judgement will not come about,” it proclaims, “until Moslems fight the Jews (killing the Jews), when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Moslems, O Abdulla, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him.”\n \n Regarding the new one, the one you linked:\n \n > **A Kinder, Gentler Charter?** \n > On May 1, 2017, Hamas issued a revised charter. Gone were the “vague religious rhetoric and outlandish utopian pronouncements” of the earlier document, according to analysis prepared for the Institute of Palestine Studies. Instead, the new charter was redolent of “straightforward and mostly pragmatic political language” that had “shifted the movement’s positions and policies further toward the spheres of pragmatism and nationalism as opposed to dogma and Islamism.” Nonetheless, the analyst was struck by “the movement’s adherence to its founding principles” alongside newly crafted, “carefully worded” language suggesting moderation and flexibility. \n > Israel immediately dismissed the group’s effort to promote a kinder, gentler image of its once avowedly bloodthirsty agenda. “Hamas is attempting to fool the world, but it will not succeed,” a spokesperson from Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s office predicted. \n > In fact, the new document differs little from its predecessor. Much like the original, the new document asserts Hamas’s long-standing goal of establishing a sovereign, Islamist Palestinian state that extends, according to Article 2, from the Jordan River to the Mediterranean Sea and from the Lebanese border to the Israeli city of Eilat—in other words, through the entirety of Israel, the West Bank, and Gaza. And it is similarly unequivocal about “the right of return” of all Palestinian refugees displaced as a result of the 1948 and 1967 wars (Article 12)—which is portrayed as “a natural right, both individual and collective,” divinely ordained and “inalienable.” That right, therefore “cannot be dispensed with by any party, whether Palestinian, Arab or international,” thus again rendering negotiations or efforts to achieve any kind of political settlement between Israel and the Palestinians irrelevant, void, or both. Article 27 forcefully reinforces this point: “There is no alternative to a fully sovereign Palestinian State on the entire national Palestinian soil, with Jerusalem as its capital.” \n > The most striking departure from the 1988 charter is that the 2017 statement of principles and objectives now claims that Hamas is not anti-Jewish but anti-Zionist and, accordingly, sees “Zionists” and not “Jews” as the preeminent enemy and target of its opprobrium. The revised document therefore modulates the blatantly anti-Semitic rhetoric of its predecessor but once again decries Zionism as central to a dark, conspiratorial plot of global dimensions. \n > For centuries, Jews have been blamed for causing the anti-Semitism directed against them. The new Hamas charter perpetuates this libel, arguing, “It is the Zionists who constantly identify Judaism and the Jews with their own colonial project and illegal entity” and who are therefore responsible for the conflation of anti-Zionism and anti-Semitism.\n \n It seems like Hamas revised some of the more objectionable language in the original, but they are still Hamas, and their intentions are quite clear both by word and deed. 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History repeats itself." +type: "image" +lang: "en" +isOc: false +hasEmbed: true +commentCount: 343 +favouriteCount: 1405 +score: 0 +isAdult: false +sticky: false +lastActive: DateTime @1698815619 {#2467 : 2023-11-01 06:13:39.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +adaAmount: 0 +tags: null +mentions: null +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1739 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1740 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2464 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1405 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2389 …} +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2023 …} +children: [ 1 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1666 +user: App\Entity\User {#260 +avatar: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#240 …} +cover: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#241 …} +email: "DarkGamer@kbin.social" +username: "@DarkGamer@kbin.social" +roles: [] +followersCount: 0 +homepage: "front" +about: "A man of leisure living in the present, waiting for the future." +lastActive: DateTime @1710196429 {#273 : 2024-03-11 23:33:49.0 +01:00 } +markedForDeletionAt: null +fields: null +oauthGithubId: null +oauthGoogleId: null +oauthFacebookId: null +oauthKeycloakId: null +hideAdult: true +showSubscribedUsers: true +showSubscribedMagazines: true +showSubscribedDomains: true +preferredLanguages: [] +featuredMagazines: null +showProfileSubscriptions: true +showProfileFollowings: true +markNewComments: false +notifyOnNewEntry: false +notifyOnNewEntryReply: false +notifyOnNewEntryCommentReply: false +notifyOnNewPost: false +notifyOnNewPostReply: false +notifyOnNewPostCommentReply: false +addMentionsEntries: false +addMentionsPosts: true +isBanned: false +isVerified: false +isDeleted: false +isBot: false +spamProtection: true +customCss: null +ignoreMagazinesCustomCss: false +moderatorTokens: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#230 …} +magazineOwnershipRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#226 …} +moderatorRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#215 …} +entries: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#173 …} +entryVotes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#145 …} +entryComments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#118 …} +entryCommentVotes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#88 …} +posts: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#61 …} +postVotes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#76 …} +postComments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2397 …} +postCommentVotes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1770 …} +subscriptions: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1605 …} +subscribedDomains: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2435 …} +follows: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1805 …} +followers: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1856 …} +blocks: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1817 …} +blockers: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2486 …} +blockedMagazines: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2399 …} +blockedDomains: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2420 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2417 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1921 …} +violations: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2398 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1880 …} +awards: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1866 …} +subscribedCategories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1900 …} +categories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1960 …} -id: 6561 -password: "$2y$13$FiaTwPAaMGkQnQBseD6TpuzA/Nlm3uaZdlMj/G.3IG6yY4iZgOYFK" -totpSecret: null -totpBackupCodes: [] -oAuth2UserConsents: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1973 …} +apId: "DarkGamer@kbin.social" +apProfileId: "https://kbin.social/u/DarkGamer" +apPublicUrl: "https://kbin.social/u/DarkGamer" +apFollowersUrl: "https://kbin.social/u/DarkGamer/followers" +apInboxUrl: "https://kbin.social/f/inbox" +apDomain: "kbin.social" +apPreferredUsername: "DarkGamer" +apDiscoverable: true +apManuallyApprovesFollowers: false +privateKey: null +publicKey: null +apFetchedAt: DateTime @1710030049 {#276 : 2024-03-10 01:20:49.0 +01:00 } +apDeletedAt: null +apTimeoutAt: null +visibility: "visible " +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1687391708 {#272 : 2023-06-22 01:55:08.0 +02:00 } } +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1561 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1565 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1584 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1579 …} +body: """ Thanks! I appreciate you providing sources. You've given me a lot to chew on and it's good to have additional context.\n \n Reading some more, it seems like [there is rampant mistreatment of children on both sides of this conflict,](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Children_in_the_Israeli%E2%80%93Palestinian_conflict#) if anyone is worthy of sympathy in this conflict it's children.\n \n ---\n \n > <https://www.savethechildren.net/news/%E2%80%9Ctreated-animals%E2%80%9D-palestinian-children-face-inhumane-treatment-israeli-run-prisons> \n > <https://www.savethechildren.net/news/stripped-beaten-and-blindfolded-new-research-reveals-ongoing-violence-and-abuse-palestinian>\n \n The military prison abuse issue is one I wasn't aware of, that sounds pretty terrible. Clearly the military prisons need more oversight and the courts need reform. This one does seem like an example of systemic Israeli injustice.\n \n I wonder what the best approach is to rehabilitate kids who attack soldiers with stones? It seems like they're being treated like future enemy soldiers, which may or may not be true. In any event it seems like a self-fulfilling prophecy, given the additional animosity systemic abuse like this must engender.\n \n Wouldn't negotiating peace immediately remove Palestinians from the Israeli military court's authority? Seems like constant attacks just ensure that they remain under its jurisdiction.\n \n I haven't found any articles about attempts to address this problem, I'm curious what if anything is being done in Israel about this.\n \n ---\n \n > <https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/05/palestinian-boy-mohammed-abu-khdeir-burned-alive>\n \n The [murder of Mohammed Abu Khedir](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kidnapping_and_murder_of_Mohammed_Abu_Khdeir) was a terrible crime, and the people responsible were brought to justice *by Israel.*\n \n > [Mohammed's murderers] Ben David was sentenced to life in prison and an additional 20 years. ... On 4 February, the two minors were sentenced. One was given life imprisonment, the other was sentenced to serve 21 years.\n \n ---\n \n > <https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/how-israel-protects-its-settlers-who-burn-palestinian-children-alive>\n \n Wow, talk about a biased source!\n \n > It is hard to imagine a more hypocritical display than the crocodile tears of the same leaders who perpetrated the massacre of 2,200 Palestinians in Gaza last year, more than 500 of them children, now feigning outrage at the murder of one more.\n \n According to wikipedia [regarding the duma arson attack:](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duma_arson_attack)\n \n > On 3 January 2016, 21 year old Israeli settler Amiram Ben-Uliel was indicted for the murder, along with an Israeli minor, for participation in planning the murder. In addition, along with two others, they were both charged with one count of membership in a terrorist organization.[3][4] \n > In 2020, Ben-Uliel was convicted of three counts of murder, two counts of attempted murder, three counts of arson and of conspiring to commit a racially motivated crime,[5] as part of a "terrorist act".[6] However, he was acquitted of the charge of being a member of a terror organization.[7][8] He was sentenced to life imprisonment.[9]\n \n Again, criminals who were severely punished for their crimes *by Israel.*\n \n ---\n \n > <https://www.timesofisrael.com/ending-censorship-idf-admits-officer-jailed-in-2017-raped-a-palestinian-woman/>\n \n Rapist criminal, punished and convicted *by Israel.*\n \n ---\n \n > <https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/editorial/2023-09-05/ty-article-opinion/israels-humiliating-practice-of-strip-searching-palestinian-women/0000018a-61b0-daa9-a78f-efb765a30000> ( <https://archive.ph/e43iD> )\n \n Being strip searched sucks but if someone is suspected of being armed it doesn't seem unreasonable if there's probable cause. If there isn't probable cause the soldiers should be reprimanded. If the IDF account is credible the search seems like it was done professionally by female solders. I'm not sure why this ranks among the other grievances, but this is an op-ed after all.\n \n ---\n \n Of all these only the military prison for kids reeks of systemic injustice. Most of your examples are criminals who were punished by Israel for their crimes, motivated by the cycle of animosity. If the IDF were issuing orders to rape and murder non-combatant civilians you might have a case for equivalency but I see no evidence here of anything that can justify intentionally targeting civilians like Hamas has. 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DateTimeImmutable @1697244109 {#1752 : 2023-10-14 02:41:49.0 +02:00 } +"title": 47450 } 0 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1689 +user: App\Entity\User {#260} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1561 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1565 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1683 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1579 …} +body: """ Yes [the article I linked above](https://archive.ph/Wq1FC) discusses the revised charter. I see why you chose to share it rather than the original.\n \n Hamas' original charter of course was explicitly genocidal:\n \n > Released on August 18, 1988, the original covenant spells out clearly Hamas’s genocidal intentions. Accordingly, what happened in Israel on Saturday is completely in keeping with Hamas’s explicit aims and stated objectives. It was in fact the inchoate realization of Hamas’s true ambitions. \n > The most relevant of the document’s 36 articles can be summarized as falling within four main themes:\n > \n > 1. The complete destruction of Israel as an essential condition for the liberation of Palestine and the establishment of a theocratic state based on Islamic law (Sharia),\n > 2. The need for both unrestrained and unceasing holy war (jihad) to attain the above objective,\n > 3. The deliberate disdain for, and dismissal of, any negotiated resolution or political settlement of Jewish and Muslim claims to the Holy Land, and\n > 4. The reinforcement of historical anti-Semitic tropes and calumnies married to sinister conspiracy theories. ...\n \n > After some general explanatory language about Hamas’s religious foundation and noble intentions, the covenant comes to the Islamic Resistance Movement’s raison d’être: the slaughter of Jews. “The Day of Judgement will not come about,” it proclaims, “until Moslems fight the Jews (killing the Jews), when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Moslems, O Abdulla, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him.”\n \n Regarding the new one, the one you linked:\n \n > **A Kinder, Gentler Charter?** \n > On May 1, 2017, Hamas issued a revised charter. Gone were the “vague religious rhetoric and outlandish utopian pronouncements” of the earlier document, according to analysis prepared for the Institute of Palestine Studies. Instead, the new charter was redolent of “straightforward and mostly pragmatic political language” that had “shifted the movement’s positions and policies further toward the spheres of pragmatism and nationalism as opposed to dogma and Islamism.” Nonetheless, the analyst was struck by “the movement’s adherence to its founding principles” alongside newly crafted, “carefully worded” language suggesting moderation and flexibility. \n > Israel immediately dismissed the group’s effort to promote a kinder, gentler image of its once avowedly bloodthirsty agenda. “Hamas is attempting to fool the world, but it will not succeed,” a spokesperson from Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s office predicted. \n > In fact, the new document differs little from its predecessor. Much like the original, the new document asserts Hamas’s long-standing goal of establishing a sovereign, Islamist Palestinian state that extends, according to Article 2, from the Jordan River to the Mediterranean Sea and from the Lebanese border to the Israeli city of Eilat—in other words, through the entirety of Israel, the West Bank, and Gaza. And it is similarly unequivocal about “the right of return” of all Palestinian refugees displaced as a result of the 1948 and 1967 wars (Article 12)—which is portrayed as “a natural right, both individual and collective,” divinely ordained and “inalienable.” That right, therefore “cannot be dispensed with by any party, whether Palestinian, Arab or international,” thus again rendering negotiations or efforts to achieve any kind of political settlement between Israel and the Palestinians irrelevant, void, or both. Article 27 forcefully reinforces this point: “There is no alternative to a fully sovereign Palestinian State on the entire national Palestinian soil, with Jerusalem as its capital.” \n > The most striking departure from the 1988 charter is that the 2017 statement of principles and objectives now claims that Hamas is not anti-Jewish but anti-Zionist and, accordingly, sees “Zionists” and not “Jews” as the preeminent enemy and target of its opprobrium. The revised document therefore modulates the blatantly anti-Semitic rhetoric of its predecessor but once again decries Zionism as central to a dark, conspiratorial plot of global dimensions. \n > For centuries, Jews have been blamed for causing the anti-Semitism directed against them. The new Hamas charter perpetuates this libel, arguing, “It is the Zionists who constantly identify Judaism and the Jews with their own colonial project and illegal entity” and who are therefore responsible for the conflation of anti-Zionism and anti-Semitism.\n \n It seems like Hamas revised some of the more objectionable language in the original, but they are still Hamas, and their intentions are quite clear both by word and deed. 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Your concern is Palestine resisting massacre." +url: "https://lemy.lol/pictrs/image/58833b4b-c75a-428a-bafc-29e662706343.jpeg" +body: "This meme is from 2004. History repeats itself." +type: "image" +lang: "en" +isOc: false +hasEmbed: true +commentCount: 343 +favouriteCount: 1405 +score: 0 +isAdult: false +sticky: false +lastActive: DateTime @1698815619 {#2467 : 2023-11-01 06:13:39.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +adaAmount: 0 +tags: null +mentions: null +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1739 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1740 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2464 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1405 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2389 …} +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2023 …} +children: [ 1 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1666} 0 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1689 +user: App\Entity\User {#260} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1561 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1565 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1683 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1579 …} +body: """ Yes [the article I linked above](https://archive.ph/Wq1FC) discusses the revised charter. I see why you chose to share it rather than the original.\n \n Hamas' original charter of course was explicitly genocidal:\n \n > Released on August 18, 1988, the original covenant spells out clearly Hamas’s genocidal intentions. Accordingly, what happened in Israel on Saturday is completely in keeping with Hamas’s explicit aims and stated objectives. It was in fact the inchoate realization of Hamas’s true ambitions. \n > The most relevant of the document’s 36 articles can be summarized as falling within four main themes:\n > \n > 1. The complete destruction of Israel as an essential condition for the liberation of Palestine and the establishment of a theocratic state based on Islamic law (Sharia),\n > 2. The need for both unrestrained and unceasing holy war (jihad) to attain the above objective,\n > 3. The deliberate disdain for, and dismissal of, any negotiated resolution or political settlement of Jewish and Muslim claims to the Holy Land, and\n > 4. The reinforcement of historical anti-Semitic tropes and calumnies married to sinister conspiracy theories. ...\n \n > After some general explanatory language about Hamas’s religious foundation and noble intentions, the covenant comes to the Islamic Resistance Movement’s raison d’être: the slaughter of Jews. “The Day of Judgement will not come about,” it proclaims, “until Moslems fight the Jews (killing the Jews), when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Moslems, O Abdulla, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him.”\n \n Regarding the new one, the one you linked:\n \n > **A Kinder, Gentler Charter?** \n > On May 1, 2017, Hamas issued a revised charter. Gone were the “vague religious rhetoric and outlandish utopian pronouncements” of the earlier document, according to analysis prepared for the Institute of Palestine Studies. Instead, the new charter was redolent of “straightforward and mostly pragmatic political language” that had “shifted the movement’s positions and policies further toward the spheres of pragmatism and nationalism as opposed to dogma and Islamism.” Nonetheless, the analyst was struck by “the movement’s adherence to its founding principles” alongside newly crafted, “carefully worded” language suggesting moderation and flexibility. \n > Israel immediately dismissed the group’s effort to promote a kinder, gentler image of its once avowedly bloodthirsty agenda. “Hamas is attempting to fool the world, but it will not succeed,” a spokesperson from Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s office predicted. \n > In fact, the new document differs little from its predecessor. Much like the original, the new document asserts Hamas’s long-standing goal of establishing a sovereign, Islamist Palestinian state that extends, according to Article 2, from the Jordan River to the Mediterranean Sea and from the Lebanese border to the Israeli city of Eilat—in other words, through the entirety of Israel, the West Bank, and Gaza. And it is similarly unequivocal about “the right of return” of all Palestinian refugees displaced as a result of the 1948 and 1967 wars (Article 12)—which is portrayed as “a natural right, both individual and collective,” divinely ordained and “inalienable.” That right, therefore “cannot be dispensed with by any party, whether Palestinian, Arab or international,” thus again rendering negotiations or efforts to achieve any kind of political settlement between Israel and the Palestinians irrelevant, void, or both. Article 27 forcefully reinforces this point: “There is no alternative to a fully sovereign Palestinian State on the entire national Palestinian soil, with Jerusalem as its capital.” \n > The most striking departure from the 1988 charter is that the 2017 statement of principles and objectives now claims that Hamas is not anti-Jewish but anti-Zionist and, accordingly, sees “Zionists” and not “Jews” as the preeminent enemy and target of its opprobrium. The revised document therefore modulates the blatantly anti-Semitic rhetoric of its predecessor but once again decries Zionism as central to a dark, conspiratorial plot of global dimensions. \n > For centuries, Jews have been blamed for causing the anti-Semitism directed against them. The new Hamas charter perpetuates this libel, arguing, “It is the Zionists who constantly identify Judaism and the Jews with their own colonial project and illegal entity” and who are therefore responsible for the conflation of anti-Zionism and anti-Semitism.\n \n It seems like Hamas revised some of the more objectionable language in the original, but they are still Hamas, and their intentions are quite clear both by word and deed. 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I appreciate you providing sources. You've given me a lot to chew on and it's good to have additional context.\n \n Reading some more, it seems like [there is rampant mistreatment of children on both sides of this conflict,](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Children_in_the_Israeli%E2%80%93Palestinian_conflict#) if anyone is worthy of sympathy in this conflict it's children.\n \n ---\n \n > <https://www.savethechildren.net/news/%E2%80%9Ctreated-animals%E2%80%9D-palestinian-children-face-inhumane-treatment-israeli-run-prisons> \n > <https://www.savethechildren.net/news/stripped-beaten-and-blindfolded-new-research-reveals-ongoing-violence-and-abuse-palestinian>\n \n The military prison abuse issue is one I wasn't aware of, that sounds pretty terrible. Clearly the military prisons need more oversight and the courts need reform. This one does seem like an example of systemic Israeli injustice.\n \n I wonder what the best approach is to rehabilitate kids who attack soldiers with stones? It seems like they're being treated like future enemy soldiers, which may or may not be true. In any event it seems like a self-fulfilling prophecy, given the additional animosity systemic abuse like this must engender.\n \n Wouldn't negotiating peace immediately remove Palestinians from the Israeli military court's authority? Seems like constant attacks just ensure that they remain under its jurisdiction.\n \n I haven't found any articles about attempts to address this problem, I'm curious what if anything is being done in Israel about this.\n \n ---\n \n > <https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/05/palestinian-boy-mohammed-abu-khdeir-burned-alive>\n \n The [murder of Mohammed Abu Khedir](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kidnapping_and_murder_of_Mohammed_Abu_Khdeir) was a terrible crime, and the people responsible were brought to justice *by Israel.*\n \n > [Mohammed's murderers] Ben David was sentenced to life in prison and an additional 20 years. ... On 4 February, the two minors were sentenced. One was given life imprisonment, the other was sentenced to serve 21 years.\n \n ---\n \n > <https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/how-israel-protects-its-settlers-who-burn-palestinian-children-alive>\n \n Wow, talk about a biased source!\n \n > It is hard to imagine a more hypocritical display than the crocodile tears of the same leaders who perpetrated the massacre of 2,200 Palestinians in Gaza last year, more than 500 of them children, now feigning outrage at the murder of one more.\n \n According to wikipedia [regarding the duma arson attack:](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duma_arson_attack)\n \n > On 3 January 2016, 21 year old Israeli settler Amiram Ben-Uliel was indicted for the murder, along with an Israeli minor, for participation in planning the murder. In addition, along with two others, they were both charged with one count of membership in a terrorist organization.[3][4] \n > In 2020, Ben-Uliel was convicted of three counts of murder, two counts of attempted murder, three counts of arson and of conspiring to commit a racially motivated crime,[5] as part of a "terrorist act".[6] However, he was acquitted of the charge of being a member of a terror organization.[7][8] He was sentenced to life imprisonment.[9]\n \n Again, criminals who were severely punished for their crimes *by Israel.*\n \n ---\n \n > <https://www.timesofisrael.com/ending-censorship-idf-admits-officer-jailed-in-2017-raped-a-palestinian-woman/>\n \n Rapist criminal, punished and convicted *by Israel.*\n \n ---\n \n > <https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/editorial/2023-09-05/ty-article-opinion/israels-humiliating-practice-of-strip-searching-palestinian-women/0000018a-61b0-daa9-a78f-efb765a30000> ( <https://archive.ph/e43iD> )\n \n Being strip searched sucks but if someone is suspected of being armed it doesn't seem unreasonable if there's probable cause. If there isn't probable cause the soldiers should be reprimanded. If the IDF account is credible the search seems like it was done professionally by female solders. I'm not sure why this ranks among the other grievances, but this is an op-ed after all.\n \n ---\n \n Of all these only the military prison for kids reeks of systemic injustice. Most of your examples are criminals who were punished by Israel for their crimes, motivated by the cycle of animosity. If the IDF were issuing orders to rape and murder non-combatant civilians you might have a case for equivalency but I see no evidence here of anything that can justify intentionally targeting civilians like Hamas has. 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Your concern is Palestine resisting massacre." +url: "https://lemy.lol/pictrs/image/58833b4b-c75a-428a-bafc-29e662706343.jpeg" +body: "This meme is from 2004. History repeats itself." +type: "image" +lang: "en" +isOc: false +hasEmbed: true +commentCount: 343 +favouriteCount: 1405 +score: 0 +isAdult: false +sticky: false +lastActive: DateTime @1698815619 {#2467 : 2023-11-01 06:13:39.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +adaAmount: 0 +tags: null +mentions: null +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1739 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1740 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2464 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1405 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2389 …} +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2023 …} +children: [ 1 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1666} 0 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1689 +user: App\Entity\User {#260} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1561 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1565 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1683 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1579 …} +body: """ Yes [the article I linked above](https://archive.ph/Wq1FC) discusses the revised charter. I see why you chose to share it rather than the original.\n \n Hamas' original charter of course was explicitly genocidal:\n \n > Released on August 18, 1988, the original covenant spells out clearly Hamas’s genocidal intentions. Accordingly, what happened in Israel on Saturday is completely in keeping with Hamas’s explicit aims and stated objectives. It was in fact the inchoate realization of Hamas’s true ambitions. \n > The most relevant of the document’s 36 articles can be summarized as falling within four main themes:\n > \n > 1. The complete destruction of Israel as an essential condition for the liberation of Palestine and the establishment of a theocratic state based on Islamic law (Sharia),\n > 2. The need for both unrestrained and unceasing holy war (jihad) to attain the above objective,\n > 3. The deliberate disdain for, and dismissal of, any negotiated resolution or political settlement of Jewish and Muslim claims to the Holy Land, and\n > 4. The reinforcement of historical anti-Semitic tropes and calumnies married to sinister conspiracy theories. ...\n \n > After some general explanatory language about Hamas’s religious foundation and noble intentions, the covenant comes to the Islamic Resistance Movement’s raison d’être: the slaughter of Jews. “The Day of Judgement will not come about,” it proclaims, “until Moslems fight the Jews (killing the Jews), when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Moslems, O Abdulla, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him.”\n \n Regarding the new one, the one you linked:\n \n > **A Kinder, Gentler Charter?** \n > On May 1, 2017, Hamas issued a revised charter. Gone were the “vague religious rhetoric and outlandish utopian pronouncements” of the earlier document, according to analysis prepared for the Institute of Palestine Studies. Instead, the new charter was redolent of “straightforward and mostly pragmatic political language” that had “shifted the movement’s positions and policies further toward the spheres of pragmatism and nationalism as opposed to dogma and Islamism.” Nonetheless, the analyst was struck by “the movement’s adherence to its founding principles” alongside newly crafted, “carefully worded” language suggesting moderation and flexibility. \n > Israel immediately dismissed the group’s effort to promote a kinder, gentler image of its once avowedly bloodthirsty agenda. “Hamas is attempting to fool the world, but it will not succeed,” a spokesperson from Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s office predicted. \n > In fact, the new document differs little from its predecessor. Much like the original, the new document asserts Hamas’s long-standing goal of establishing a sovereign, Islamist Palestinian state that extends, according to Article 2, from the Jordan River to the Mediterranean Sea and from the Lebanese border to the Israeli city of Eilat—in other words, through the entirety of Israel, the West Bank, and Gaza. And it is similarly unequivocal about “the right of return” of all Palestinian refugees displaced as a result of the 1948 and 1967 wars (Article 12)—which is portrayed as “a natural right, both individual and collective,” divinely ordained and “inalienable.” That right, therefore “cannot be dispensed with by any party, whether Palestinian, Arab or international,” thus again rendering negotiations or efforts to achieve any kind of political settlement between Israel and the Palestinians irrelevant, void, or both. Article 27 forcefully reinforces this point: “There is no alternative to a fully sovereign Palestinian State on the entire national Palestinian soil, with Jerusalem as its capital.” \n > The most striking departure from the 1988 charter is that the 2017 statement of principles and objectives now claims that Hamas is not anti-Jewish but anti-Zionist and, accordingly, sees “Zionists” and not “Jews” as the preeminent enemy and target of its opprobrium. The revised document therefore modulates the blatantly anti-Semitic rhetoric of its predecessor but once again decries Zionism as central to a dark, conspiratorial plot of global dimensions. \n > For centuries, Jews have been blamed for causing the anti-Semitism directed against them. The new Hamas charter perpetuates this libel, arguing, “It is the Zionists who constantly identify Judaism and the Jews with their own colonial project and illegal entity” and who are therefore responsible for the conflation of anti-Zionism and anti-Semitism.\n \n It seems like Hamas revised some of the more objectionable language in the original, but they are still Hamas, and their intentions are quite clear both by word and deed. 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"https://kbin.social/m/memes@lemmy.ml/t/537174/-/comment/2948544" +editedAt: DateTimeImmutable @1697245149 {#1686 : 2023-10-14 02:59:09.0 +02:00 } +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1697245106 {#1691 : 2023-10-14 02:58:26.0 +02:00 } +"title": 47475 } ] -id: 5050 -titleTs: "'casualti':6,16 'civilian':5,15 'concern':12,18 'critic':4 'isn':13 'massacr':22 'palestin':8,20 'resist':9,21" -bodyTs: "'2004':5 'histori':6 'meme':2 'repeat':7" +cross: false +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +ranking: 1697306656 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemy.lol/post/11185015" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1697220256 {#1672 : 2023-10-13 20:04:16.0 +02:00 } +__isInitialized__: true …2 } +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1565 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1584 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1579 …} +body: """ Thanks! I appreciate you providing sources. You've given me a lot to chew on and it's good to have additional context.\n \n Reading some more, it seems like [there is rampant mistreatment of children on both sides of this conflict,](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Children_in_the_Israeli%E2%80%93Palestinian_conflict#) if anyone is worthy of sympathy in this conflict it's children.\n \n ---\n \n > <https://www.savethechildren.net/news/%E2%80%9Ctreated-animals%E2%80%9D-palestinian-children-face-inhumane-treatment-israeli-run-prisons> \n > <https://www.savethechildren.net/news/stripped-beaten-and-blindfolded-new-research-reveals-ongoing-violence-and-abuse-palestinian>\n \n The military prison abuse issue is one I wasn't aware of, that sounds pretty terrible. Clearly the military prisons need more oversight and the courts need reform. This one does seem like an example of systemic Israeli injustice.\n \n I wonder what the best approach is to rehabilitate kids who attack soldiers with stones? It seems like they're being treated like future enemy soldiers, which may or may not be true. In any event it seems like a self-fulfilling prophecy, given the additional animosity systemic abuse like this must engender.\n \n Wouldn't negotiating peace immediately remove Palestinians from the Israeli military court's authority? Seems like constant attacks just ensure that they remain under its jurisdiction.\n \n I haven't found any articles about attempts to address this problem, I'm curious what if anything is being done in Israel about this.\n \n ---\n \n > <https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/05/palestinian-boy-mohammed-abu-khdeir-burned-alive>\n \n The [murder of Mohammed Abu Khedir](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kidnapping_and_murder_of_Mohammed_Abu_Khdeir) was a terrible crime, and the people responsible were brought to justice *by Israel.*\n \n > [Mohammed's murderers] Ben David was sentenced to life in prison and an additional 20 years. ... On 4 February, the two minors were sentenced. One was given life imprisonment, the other was sentenced to serve 21 years.\n \n ---\n \n > <https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/how-israel-protects-its-settlers-who-burn-palestinian-children-alive>\n \n Wow, talk about a biased source!\n \n > It is hard to imagine a more hypocritical display than the crocodile tears of the same leaders who perpetrated the massacre of 2,200 Palestinians in Gaza last year, more than 500 of them children, now feigning outrage at the murder of one more.\n \n According to wikipedia [regarding the duma arson attack:](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duma_arson_attack)\n \n > On 3 January 2016, 21 year old Israeli settler Amiram Ben-Uliel was indicted for the murder, along with an Israeli minor, for participation in planning the murder. In addition, along with two others, they were both charged with one count of membership in a terrorist organization.[3][4] \n > In 2020, Ben-Uliel was convicted of three counts of murder, two counts of attempted murder, three counts of arson and of conspiring to commit a racially motivated crime,[5] as part of a "terrorist act".[6] However, he was acquitted of the charge of being a member of a terror organization.[7][8] He was sentenced to life imprisonment.[9]\n \n Again, criminals who were severely punished for their crimes *by Israel.*\n \n ---\n \n > <https://www.timesofisrael.com/ending-censorship-idf-admits-officer-jailed-in-2017-raped-a-palestinian-woman/>\n \n Rapist criminal, punished and convicted *by Israel.*\n \n ---\n \n > <https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/editorial/2023-09-05/ty-article-opinion/israels-humiliating-practice-of-strip-searching-palestinian-women/0000018a-61b0-daa9-a78f-efb765a30000> ( <https://archive.ph/e43iD> )\n \n Being strip searched sucks but if someone is suspected of being armed it doesn't seem unreasonable if there's probable cause. If there isn't probable cause the soldiers should be reprimanded. If the IDF account is credible the search seems like it was done professionally by female solders. I'm not sure why this ranks among the other grievances, but this is an op-ed after all.\n \n ---\n \n Of all these only the military prison for kids reeks of systemic injustice. Most of your examples are criminals who were punished by Israel for their crimes, motivated by the cycle of animosity. If the IDF were issuing orders to rape and murder non-combatant civilians you might have a case for equivalency but I see no evidence here of anything that can justify intentionally targeting civilians like Hamas has. 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| user_inline | App\Twig\Components\UserInlineComponent | 12.0 MiB | 0.21 ms | |
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| date | App\Twig\Components\DateComponent | 12.0 MiB | 0.18 ms | |
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| Input props | [ "date" => DateTimeImmutable @1697244109 {#1752 : 2023-10-14 02:41:49.0 +02:00 } ] |
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| Component | App\Twig\Components\DateComponent {#3909 +date: DateTimeImmutable @1697244109 {#1752 : 2023-10-14 02:41:49.0 +02:00 } } |
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| date_edited | App\Twig\Components\DateEditedComponent | 12.0 MiB | 0.15 ms | |
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| user_avatar | App\Twig\Components\UserAvatarComponent | 12.0 MiB | 0.24 ms | |
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Be civil and nice.\n 2. Try not to excessively repost, as a rule of thumb, wait at least 2 months to do it if you *have* to. 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Your concern is Palestine resisting massacre." +url: "https://lemy.lol/pictrs/image/58833b4b-c75a-428a-bafc-29e662706343.jpeg" +body: "This meme is from 2004. History repeats itself." +type: "image" +lang: "en" +isOc: false +hasEmbed: true +commentCount: 343 +favouriteCount: 1405 +score: 0 +isAdult: false +sticky: false +lastActive: DateTime @1698815619 {#2467 : 2023-11-01 06:13:39.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +adaAmount: 0 +tags: null +mentions: null +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1739 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1740 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2464 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1405 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2389 …} +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2023 …} +children: [ 1 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1666} 0 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1689 +user: App\Entity\User {#260} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1561 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1565 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1683 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1579 …} +body: """ Yes [the article I linked above](https://archive.ph/Wq1FC) discusses the revised charter. I see why you chose to share it rather than the original.\n \n Hamas' original charter of course was explicitly genocidal:\n \n > Released on August 18, 1988, the original covenant spells out clearly Hamas’s genocidal intentions. Accordingly, what happened in Israel on Saturday is completely in keeping with Hamas’s explicit aims and stated objectives. It was in fact the inchoate realization of Hamas’s true ambitions. \n > The most relevant of the document’s 36 articles can be summarized as falling within four main themes:\n > \n > 1. The complete destruction of Israel as an essential condition for the liberation of Palestine and the establishment of a theocratic state based on Islamic law (Sharia),\n > 2. The need for both unrestrained and unceasing holy war (jihad) to attain the above objective,\n > 3. The deliberate disdain for, and dismissal of, any negotiated resolution or political settlement of Jewish and Muslim claims to the Holy Land, and\n > 4. The reinforcement of historical anti-Semitic tropes and calumnies married to sinister conspiracy theories. ...\n \n > After some general explanatory language about Hamas’s religious foundation and noble intentions, the covenant comes to the Islamic Resistance Movement’s raison d’être: the slaughter of Jews. “The Day of Judgement will not come about,” it proclaims, “until Moslems fight the Jews (killing the Jews), when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Moslems, O Abdulla, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him.”\n \n Regarding the new one, the one you linked:\n \n > **A Kinder, Gentler Charter?** \n > On May 1, 2017, Hamas issued a revised charter. Gone were the “vague religious rhetoric and outlandish utopian pronouncements” of the earlier document, according to analysis prepared for the Institute of Palestine Studies. Instead, the new charter was redolent of “straightforward and mostly pragmatic political language” that had “shifted the movement’s positions and policies further toward the spheres of pragmatism and nationalism as opposed to dogma and Islamism.” Nonetheless, the analyst was struck by “the movement’s adherence to its founding principles” alongside newly crafted, “carefully worded” language suggesting moderation and flexibility. \n > Israel immediately dismissed the group’s effort to promote a kinder, gentler image of its once avowedly bloodthirsty agenda. “Hamas is attempting to fool the world, but it will not succeed,” a spokesperson from Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s office predicted. \n > In fact, the new document differs little from its predecessor. Much like the original, the new document asserts Hamas’s long-standing goal of establishing a sovereign, Islamist Palestinian state that extends, according to Article 2, from the Jordan River to the Mediterranean Sea and from the Lebanese border to the Israeli city of Eilat—in other words, through the entirety of Israel, the West Bank, and Gaza. And it is similarly unequivocal about “the right of return” of all Palestinian refugees displaced as a result of the 1948 and 1967 wars (Article 12)—which is portrayed as “a natural right, both individual and collective,” divinely ordained and “inalienable.” That right, therefore “cannot be dispensed with by any party, whether Palestinian, Arab or international,” thus again rendering negotiations or efforts to achieve any kind of political settlement between Israel and the Palestinians irrelevant, void, or both. Article 27 forcefully reinforces this point: “There is no alternative to a fully sovereign Palestinian State on the entire national Palestinian soil, with Jerusalem as its capital.” \n > The most striking departure from the 1988 charter is that the 2017 statement of principles and objectives now claims that Hamas is not anti-Jewish but anti-Zionist and, accordingly, sees “Zionists” and not “Jews” as the preeminent enemy and target of its opprobrium. The revised document therefore modulates the blatantly anti-Semitic rhetoric of its predecessor but once again decries Zionism as central to a dark, conspiratorial plot of global dimensions. \n > For centuries, Jews have been blamed for causing the anti-Semitism directed against them. The new Hamas charter perpetuates this libel, arguing, “It is the Zionists who constantly identify Judaism and the Jews with their own colonial project and illegal entity” and who are therefore responsible for the conflation of anti-Zionism and anti-Semitism.\n \n It seems like Hamas revised some of the more objectionable language in the original, but they are still Hamas, and their intentions are quite clear both by word and deed. 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"https://kbin.social/m/memes@lemmy.ml/t/537174/-/comment/2948544" +editedAt: DateTimeImmutable @1697245149 {#1686 : 2023-10-14 02:59:09.0 +02:00 } +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1697245106 {#1691 : 2023-10-14 02:58:26.0 +02:00 } +"title": 47475 } ] -id: 5050 -titleTs: "'casualti':6,16 'civilian':5,15 'concern':12,18 'critic':4 'isn':13 'massacr':22 'palestin':8,20 'resist':9,21" -bodyTs: "'2004':5 'histori':6 'meme':2 'repeat':7" +cross: false +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +ranking: 1697306656 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemy.lol/post/11185015" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1697220256 {#1672 : 2023-10-13 20:04:16.0 +02:00 } +__isInitialized__: true …2 } +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1565 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1584 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1579 …} +body: """ Thanks! I appreciate you providing sources. You've given me a lot to chew on and it's good to have additional context.\n \n Reading some more, it seems like [there is rampant mistreatment of children on both sides of this conflict,](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Children_in_the_Israeli%E2%80%93Palestinian_conflict#) if anyone is worthy of sympathy in this conflict it's children.\n \n ---\n \n > <https://www.savethechildren.net/news/%E2%80%9Ctreated-animals%E2%80%9D-palestinian-children-face-inhumane-treatment-israeli-run-prisons> \n > <https://www.savethechildren.net/news/stripped-beaten-and-blindfolded-new-research-reveals-ongoing-violence-and-abuse-palestinian>\n \n The military prison abuse issue is one I wasn't aware of, that sounds pretty terrible. Clearly the military prisons need more oversight and the courts need reform. This one does seem like an example of systemic Israeli injustice.\n \n I wonder what the best approach is to rehabilitate kids who attack soldiers with stones? It seems like they're being treated like future enemy soldiers, which may or may not be true. In any event it seems like a self-fulfilling prophecy, given the additional animosity systemic abuse like this must engender.\n \n Wouldn't negotiating peace immediately remove Palestinians from the Israeli military court's authority? Seems like constant attacks just ensure that they remain under its jurisdiction.\n \n I haven't found any articles about attempts to address this problem, I'm curious what if anything is being done in Israel about this.\n \n ---\n \n > <https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/05/palestinian-boy-mohammed-abu-khdeir-burned-alive>\n \n The [murder of Mohammed Abu Khedir](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kidnapping_and_murder_of_Mohammed_Abu_Khdeir) was a terrible crime, and the people responsible were brought to justice *by Israel.*\n \n > [Mohammed's murderers] Ben David was sentenced to life in prison and an additional 20 years. ... On 4 February, the two minors were sentenced. One was given life imprisonment, the other was sentenced to serve 21 years.\n \n ---\n \n > <https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/how-israel-protects-its-settlers-who-burn-palestinian-children-alive>\n \n Wow, talk about a biased source!\n \n > It is hard to imagine a more hypocritical display than the crocodile tears of the same leaders who perpetrated the massacre of 2,200 Palestinians in Gaza last year, more than 500 of them children, now feigning outrage at the murder of one more.\n \n According to wikipedia [regarding the duma arson attack:](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duma_arson_attack)\n \n > On 3 January 2016, 21 year old Israeli settler Amiram Ben-Uliel was indicted for the murder, along with an Israeli minor, for participation in planning the murder. In addition, along with two others, they were both charged with one count of membership in a terrorist organization.[3][4] \n > In 2020, Ben-Uliel was convicted of three counts of murder, two counts of attempted murder, three counts of arson and of conspiring to commit a racially motivated crime,[5] as part of a "terrorist act".[6] However, he was acquitted of the charge of being a member of a terror organization.[7][8] He was sentenced to life imprisonment.[9]\n \n Again, criminals who were severely punished for their crimes *by Israel.*\n \n ---\n \n > <https://www.timesofisrael.com/ending-censorship-idf-admits-officer-jailed-in-2017-raped-a-palestinian-woman/>\n \n Rapist criminal, punished and convicted *by Israel.*\n \n ---\n \n > <https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/editorial/2023-09-05/ty-article-opinion/israels-humiliating-practice-of-strip-searching-palestinian-women/0000018a-61b0-daa9-a78f-efb765a30000> ( <https://archive.ph/e43iD> )\n \n Being strip searched sucks but if someone is suspected of being armed it doesn't seem unreasonable if there's probable cause. If there isn't probable cause the soldiers should be reprimanded. If the IDF account is credible the search seems like it was done professionally by female solders. I'm not sure why this ranks among the other grievances, but this is an op-ed after all.\n \n ---\n \n Of all these only the military prison for kids reeks of systemic injustice. Most of your examples are criminals who were punished by Israel for their crimes, motivated by the cycle of animosity. If the IDF were issuing orders to rape and murder non-combatant civilians you might have a case for equivalency but I see no evidence here of anything that can justify intentionally targeting civilians like Hamas has. 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Your concern is Palestine resisting massacre." +url: "https://lemy.lol/pictrs/image/58833b4b-c75a-428a-bafc-29e662706343.jpeg" +body: "This meme is from 2004. History repeats itself." +type: "image" +lang: "en" +isOc: false +hasEmbed: true +commentCount: 343 +favouriteCount: 1405 +score: 0 +isAdult: false +sticky: false +lastActive: DateTime @1698815619 {#2467 : 2023-11-01 06:13:39.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +adaAmount: 0 +tags: null +mentions: null +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1739 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1740 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2464 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1405 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2389 …} +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2023 …} +children: [ 1 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1666} 0 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1689 +user: App\Entity\User {#260} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1561 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1565 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1683 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1579 …} +body: """ Yes [the article I linked above](https://archive.ph/Wq1FC) discusses the revised charter. I see why you chose to share it rather than the original.\n \n Hamas' original charter of course was explicitly genocidal:\n \n > Released on August 18, 1988, the original covenant spells out clearly Hamas’s genocidal intentions. Accordingly, what happened in Israel on Saturday is completely in keeping with Hamas’s explicit aims and stated objectives. It was in fact the inchoate realization of Hamas’s true ambitions. \n > The most relevant of the document’s 36 articles can be summarized as falling within four main themes:\n > \n > 1. The complete destruction of Israel as an essential condition for the liberation of Palestine and the establishment of a theocratic state based on Islamic law (Sharia),\n > 2. The need for both unrestrained and unceasing holy war (jihad) to attain the above objective,\n > 3. The deliberate disdain for, and dismissal of, any negotiated resolution or political settlement of Jewish and Muslim claims to the Holy Land, and\n > 4. The reinforcement of historical anti-Semitic tropes and calumnies married to sinister conspiracy theories. ...\n \n > After some general explanatory language about Hamas’s religious foundation and noble intentions, the covenant comes to the Islamic Resistance Movement’s raison d’être: the slaughter of Jews. “The Day of Judgement will not come about,” it proclaims, “until Moslems fight the Jews (killing the Jews), when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Moslems, O Abdulla, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him.”\n \n Regarding the new one, the one you linked:\n \n > **A Kinder, Gentler Charter?** \n > On May 1, 2017, Hamas issued a revised charter. Gone were the “vague religious rhetoric and outlandish utopian pronouncements” of the earlier document, according to analysis prepared for the Institute of Palestine Studies. Instead, the new charter was redolent of “straightforward and mostly pragmatic political language” that had “shifted the movement’s positions and policies further toward the spheres of pragmatism and nationalism as opposed to dogma and Islamism.” Nonetheless, the analyst was struck by “the movement’s adherence to its founding principles” alongside newly crafted, “carefully worded” language suggesting moderation and flexibility. \n > Israel immediately dismissed the group’s effort to promote a kinder, gentler image of its once avowedly bloodthirsty agenda. “Hamas is attempting to fool the world, but it will not succeed,” a spokesperson from Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s office predicted. \n > In fact, the new document differs little from its predecessor. Much like the original, the new document asserts Hamas’s long-standing goal of establishing a sovereign, Islamist Palestinian state that extends, according to Article 2, from the Jordan River to the Mediterranean Sea and from the Lebanese border to the Israeli city of Eilat—in other words, through the entirety of Israel, the West Bank, and Gaza. And it is similarly unequivocal about “the right of return” of all Palestinian refugees displaced as a result of the 1948 and 1967 wars (Article 12)—which is portrayed as “a natural right, both individual and collective,” divinely ordained and “inalienable.” That right, therefore “cannot be dispensed with by any party, whether Palestinian, Arab or international,” thus again rendering negotiations or efforts to achieve any kind of political settlement between Israel and the Palestinians irrelevant, void, or both. Article 27 forcefully reinforces this point: “There is no alternative to a fully sovereign Palestinian State on the entire national Palestinian soil, with Jerusalem as its capital.” \n > The most striking departure from the 1988 charter is that the 2017 statement of principles and objectives now claims that Hamas is not anti-Jewish but anti-Zionist and, accordingly, sees “Zionists” and not “Jews” as the preeminent enemy and target of its opprobrium. The revised document therefore modulates the blatantly anti-Semitic rhetoric of its predecessor but once again decries Zionism as central to a dark, conspiratorial plot of global dimensions. \n > For centuries, Jews have been blamed for causing the anti-Semitism directed against them. The new Hamas charter perpetuates this libel, arguing, “It is the Zionists who constantly identify Judaism and the Jews with their own colonial project and illegal entity” and who are therefore responsible for the conflation of anti-Zionism and anti-Semitism.\n \n It seems like Hamas revised some of the more objectionable language in the original, but they are still Hamas, and their intentions are quite clear both by word and deed. 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I appreciate you providing sources. You've given me a lot to chew on and it's good to have additional context.\n \n Reading some more, it seems like [there is rampant mistreatment of children on both sides of this conflict,](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Children_in_the_Israeli%E2%80%93Palestinian_conflict#) if anyone is worthy of sympathy in this conflict it's children.\n \n ---\n \n > <https://www.savethechildren.net/news/%E2%80%9Ctreated-animals%E2%80%9D-palestinian-children-face-inhumane-treatment-israeli-run-prisons> \n > <https://www.savethechildren.net/news/stripped-beaten-and-blindfolded-new-research-reveals-ongoing-violence-and-abuse-palestinian>\n \n The military prison abuse issue is one I wasn't aware of, that sounds pretty terrible. Clearly the military prisons need more oversight and the courts need reform. This one does seem like an example of systemic Israeli injustice.\n \n I wonder what the best approach is to rehabilitate kids who attack soldiers with stones? It seems like they're being treated like future enemy soldiers, which may or may not be true. In any event it seems like a self-fulfilling prophecy, given the additional animosity systemic abuse like this must engender.\n \n Wouldn't negotiating peace immediately remove Palestinians from the Israeli military court's authority? Seems like constant attacks just ensure that they remain under its jurisdiction.\n \n I haven't found any articles about attempts to address this problem, I'm curious what if anything is being done in Israel about this.\n \n ---\n \n > <https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/05/palestinian-boy-mohammed-abu-khdeir-burned-alive>\n \n The [murder of Mohammed Abu Khedir](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kidnapping_and_murder_of_Mohammed_Abu_Khdeir) was a terrible crime, and the people responsible were brought to justice *by Israel.*\n \n > [Mohammed's murderers] Ben David was sentenced to life in prison and an additional 20 years. ... On 4 February, the two minors were sentenced. One was given life imprisonment, the other was sentenced to serve 21 years.\n \n ---\n \n > <https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/how-israel-protects-its-settlers-who-burn-palestinian-children-alive>\n \n Wow, talk about a biased source!\n \n > It is hard to imagine a more hypocritical display than the crocodile tears of the same leaders who perpetrated the massacre of 2,200 Palestinians in Gaza last year, more than 500 of them children, now feigning outrage at the murder of one more.\n \n According to wikipedia [regarding the duma arson attack:](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duma_arson_attack)\n \n > On 3 January 2016, 21 year old Israeli settler Amiram Ben-Uliel was indicted for the murder, along with an Israeli minor, for participation in planning the murder. In addition, along with two others, they were both charged with one count of membership in a terrorist organization.[3][4] \n > In 2020, Ben-Uliel was convicted of three counts of murder, two counts of attempted murder, three counts of arson and of conspiring to commit a racially motivated crime,[5] as part of a "terrorist act".[6] However, he was acquitted of the charge of being a member of a terror organization.[7][8] He was sentenced to life imprisonment.[9]\n \n Again, criminals who were severely punished for their crimes *by Israel.*\n \n ---\n \n > <https://www.timesofisrael.com/ending-censorship-idf-admits-officer-jailed-in-2017-raped-a-palestinian-woman/>\n \n Rapist criminal, punished and convicted *by Israel.*\n \n ---\n \n > <https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/editorial/2023-09-05/ty-article-opinion/israels-humiliating-practice-of-strip-searching-palestinian-women/0000018a-61b0-daa9-a78f-efb765a30000> ( <https://archive.ph/e43iD> )\n \n Being strip searched sucks but if someone is suspected of being armed it doesn't seem unreasonable if there's probable cause. If there isn't probable cause the soldiers should be reprimanded. If the IDF account is credible the search seems like it was done professionally by female solders. I'm not sure why this ranks among the other grievances, but this is an op-ed after all.\n \n ---\n \n Of all these only the military prison for kids reeks of systemic injustice. Most of your examples are criminals who were punished by Israel for their crimes, motivated by the cycle of animosity. If the IDF were issuing orders to rape and murder non-combatant civilians you might have a case for equivalency but I see no evidence here of anything that can justify intentionally targeting civilians like Hamas has. 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Be civil and nice.\n 2. Try not to excessively repost, as a rule of thumb, wait at least 2 months to do it if you *have* to. 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Your concern is Palestine resisting massacre." +url: "https://lemy.lol/pictrs/image/58833b4b-c75a-428a-bafc-29e662706343.jpeg" +body: "This meme is from 2004. History repeats itself." +type: "image" +lang: "en" +isOc: false +hasEmbed: true +commentCount: 343 +favouriteCount: 1405 +score: 0 +isAdult: false +sticky: false +lastActive: DateTime @1698815619 {#2467 : 2023-11-01 06:13:39.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +adaAmount: 0 +tags: null +mentions: null +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1739 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1740 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2464 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1405 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2389 …} +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2023 …} +children: [ 1 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1666} 0 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1689 +user: App\Entity\User {#260} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1561 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1565 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1683 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1579 …} +body: """ Yes [the article I linked above](https://archive.ph/Wq1FC) discusses the revised charter. I see why you chose to share it rather than the original.\n \n Hamas' original charter of course was explicitly genocidal:\n \n > Released on August 18, 1988, the original covenant spells out clearly Hamas’s genocidal intentions. Accordingly, what happened in Israel on Saturday is completely in keeping with Hamas’s explicit aims and stated objectives. It was in fact the inchoate realization of Hamas’s true ambitions. \n > The most relevant of the document’s 36 articles can be summarized as falling within four main themes:\n > \n > 1. The complete destruction of Israel as an essential condition for the liberation of Palestine and the establishment of a theocratic state based on Islamic law (Sharia),\n > 2. The need for both unrestrained and unceasing holy war (jihad) to attain the above objective,\n > 3. The deliberate disdain for, and dismissal of, any negotiated resolution or political settlement of Jewish and Muslim claims to the Holy Land, and\n > 4. The reinforcement of historical anti-Semitic tropes and calumnies married to sinister conspiracy theories. ...\n \n > After some general explanatory language about Hamas’s religious foundation and noble intentions, the covenant comes to the Islamic Resistance Movement’s raison d’être: the slaughter of Jews. “The Day of Judgement will not come about,” it proclaims, “until Moslems fight the Jews (killing the Jews), when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Moslems, O Abdulla, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him.”\n \n Regarding the new one, the one you linked:\n \n > **A Kinder, Gentler Charter?** \n > On May 1, 2017, Hamas issued a revised charter. Gone were the “vague religious rhetoric and outlandish utopian pronouncements” of the earlier document, according to analysis prepared for the Institute of Palestine Studies. Instead, the new charter was redolent of “straightforward and mostly pragmatic political language” that had “shifted the movement’s positions and policies further toward the spheres of pragmatism and nationalism as opposed to dogma and Islamism.” Nonetheless, the analyst was struck by “the movement’s adherence to its founding principles” alongside newly crafted, “carefully worded” language suggesting moderation and flexibility. \n > Israel immediately dismissed the group’s effort to promote a kinder, gentler image of its once avowedly bloodthirsty agenda. “Hamas is attempting to fool the world, but it will not succeed,” a spokesperson from Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s office predicted. \n > In fact, the new document differs little from its predecessor. Much like the original, the new document asserts Hamas’s long-standing goal of establishing a sovereign, Islamist Palestinian state that extends, according to Article 2, from the Jordan River to the Mediterranean Sea and from the Lebanese border to the Israeli city of Eilat—in other words, through the entirety of Israel, the West Bank, and Gaza. And it is similarly unequivocal about “the right of return” of all Palestinian refugees displaced as a result of the 1948 and 1967 wars (Article 12)—which is portrayed as “a natural right, both individual and collective,” divinely ordained and “inalienable.” That right, therefore “cannot be dispensed with by any party, whether Palestinian, Arab or international,” thus again rendering negotiations or efforts to achieve any kind of political settlement between Israel and the Palestinians irrelevant, void, or both. Article 27 forcefully reinforces this point: “There is no alternative to a fully sovereign Palestinian State on the entire national Palestinian soil, with Jerusalem as its capital.” \n > The most striking departure from the 1988 charter is that the 2017 statement of principles and objectives now claims that Hamas is not anti-Jewish but anti-Zionist and, accordingly, sees “Zionists” and not “Jews” as the preeminent enemy and target of its opprobrium. The revised document therefore modulates the blatantly anti-Semitic rhetoric of its predecessor but once again decries Zionism as central to a dark, conspiratorial plot of global dimensions. \n > For centuries, Jews have been blamed for causing the anti-Semitism directed against them. The new Hamas charter perpetuates this libel, arguing, “It is the Zionists who constantly identify Judaism and the Jews with their own colonial project and illegal entity” and who are therefore responsible for the conflation of anti-Zionism and anti-Semitism.\n \n It seems like Hamas revised some of the more objectionable language in the original, but they are still Hamas, and their intentions are quite clear both by word and deed. 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"https://kbin.social/m/memes@lemmy.ml/t/537174/-/comment/2948544" +editedAt: DateTimeImmutable @1697245149 {#1686 : 2023-10-14 02:59:09.0 +02:00 } +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1697245106 {#1691 : 2023-10-14 02:58:26.0 +02:00 } +"title": 47475 } ] -id: 5050 -titleTs: "'casualti':6,16 'civilian':5,15 'concern':12,18 'critic':4 'isn':13 'massacr':22 'palestin':8,20 'resist':9,21" -bodyTs: "'2004':5 'histori':6 'meme':2 'repeat':7" +cross: false +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +ranking: 1697306656 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemy.lol/post/11185015" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1697220256 {#1672 : 2023-10-13 20:04:16.0 +02:00 } +__isInitialized__: true …2 } +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1565 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1584 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1579 …} +body: """ Thanks! I appreciate you providing sources. You've given me a lot to chew on and it's good to have additional context.\n \n Reading some more, it seems like [there is rampant mistreatment of children on both sides of this conflict,](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Children_in_the_Israeli%E2%80%93Palestinian_conflict#) if anyone is worthy of sympathy in this conflict it's children.\n \n ---\n \n > <https://www.savethechildren.net/news/%E2%80%9Ctreated-animals%E2%80%9D-palestinian-children-face-inhumane-treatment-israeli-run-prisons> \n > <https://www.savethechildren.net/news/stripped-beaten-and-blindfolded-new-research-reveals-ongoing-violence-and-abuse-palestinian>\n \n The military prison abuse issue is one I wasn't aware of, that sounds pretty terrible. Clearly the military prisons need more oversight and the courts need reform. This one does seem like an example of systemic Israeli injustice.\n \n I wonder what the best approach is to rehabilitate kids who attack soldiers with stones? It seems like they're being treated like future enemy soldiers, which may or may not be true. In any event it seems like a self-fulfilling prophecy, given the additional animosity systemic abuse like this must engender.\n \n Wouldn't negotiating peace immediately remove Palestinians from the Israeli military court's authority? Seems like constant attacks just ensure that they remain under its jurisdiction.\n \n I haven't found any articles about attempts to address this problem, I'm curious what if anything is being done in Israel about this.\n \n ---\n \n > <https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/05/palestinian-boy-mohammed-abu-khdeir-burned-alive>\n \n The [murder of Mohammed Abu Khedir](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kidnapping_and_murder_of_Mohammed_Abu_Khdeir) was a terrible crime, and the people responsible were brought to justice *by Israel.*\n \n > [Mohammed's murderers] Ben David was sentenced to life in prison and an additional 20 years. ... On 4 February, the two minors were sentenced. One was given life imprisonment, the other was sentenced to serve 21 years.\n \n ---\n \n > <https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/how-israel-protects-its-settlers-who-burn-palestinian-children-alive>\n \n Wow, talk about a biased source!\n \n > It is hard to imagine a more hypocritical display than the crocodile tears of the same leaders who perpetrated the massacre of 2,200 Palestinians in Gaza last year, more than 500 of them children, now feigning outrage at the murder of one more.\n \n According to wikipedia [regarding the duma arson attack:](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duma_arson_attack)\n \n > On 3 January 2016, 21 year old Israeli settler Amiram Ben-Uliel was indicted for the murder, along with an Israeli minor, for participation in planning the murder. In addition, along with two others, they were both charged with one count of membership in a terrorist organization.[3][4] \n > In 2020, Ben-Uliel was convicted of three counts of murder, two counts of attempted murder, three counts of arson and of conspiring to commit a racially motivated crime,[5] as part of a "terrorist act".[6] However, he was acquitted of the charge of being a member of a terror organization.[7][8] He was sentenced to life imprisonment.[9]\n \n Again, criminals who were severely punished for their crimes *by Israel.*\n \n ---\n \n > <https://www.timesofisrael.com/ending-censorship-idf-admits-officer-jailed-in-2017-raped-a-palestinian-woman/>\n \n Rapist criminal, punished and convicted *by Israel.*\n \n ---\n \n > <https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/editorial/2023-09-05/ty-article-opinion/israels-humiliating-practice-of-strip-searching-palestinian-women/0000018a-61b0-daa9-a78f-efb765a30000> ( <https://archive.ph/e43iD> )\n \n Being strip searched sucks but if someone is suspected of being armed it doesn't seem unreasonable if there's probable cause. If there isn't probable cause the soldiers should be reprimanded. If the IDF account is credible the search seems like it was done professionally by female solders. I'm not sure why this ranks among the other grievances, but this is an op-ed after all.\n \n ---\n \n Of all these only the military prison for kids reeks of systemic injustice. Most of your examples are criminals who were punished by Israel for their crimes, motivated by the cycle of animosity. If the IDF were issuing orders to rape and murder non-combatant civilians you might have a case for equivalency but I see no evidence here of anything that can justify intentionally targeting civilians like Hamas has. 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Be civil and nice.\n 2. Try not to excessively repost, as a rule of thumb, wait at least 2 months to do it if you *have* to. 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Your concern is Palestine resisting massacre." +url: "https://lemy.lol/pictrs/image/58833b4b-c75a-428a-bafc-29e662706343.jpeg" +body: "This meme is from 2004. History repeats itself." +type: "image" +lang: "en" +isOc: false +hasEmbed: true +commentCount: 343 +favouriteCount: 1405 +score: 0 +isAdult: false +sticky: false +lastActive: DateTime @1698815619 {#2467 : 2023-11-01 06:13:39.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +adaAmount: 0 +tags: null +mentions: null +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1739 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1740 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2464 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1405 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2389 …} +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2023 …} +children: [ 1 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1666} 0 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1689 +user: App\Entity\User {#260} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1561 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1565 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1683 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1579 …} +body: """ Yes [the article I linked above](https://archive.ph/Wq1FC) discusses the revised charter. I see why you chose to share it rather than the original.\n \n Hamas' original charter of course was explicitly genocidal:\n \n > Released on August 18, 1988, the original covenant spells out clearly Hamas’s genocidal intentions. Accordingly, what happened in Israel on Saturday is completely in keeping with Hamas’s explicit aims and stated objectives. It was in fact the inchoate realization of Hamas’s true ambitions. \n > The most relevant of the document’s 36 articles can be summarized as falling within four main themes:\n > \n > 1. The complete destruction of Israel as an essential condition for the liberation of Palestine and the establishment of a theocratic state based on Islamic law (Sharia),\n > 2. The need for both unrestrained and unceasing holy war (jihad) to attain the above objective,\n > 3. The deliberate disdain for, and dismissal of, any negotiated resolution or political settlement of Jewish and Muslim claims to the Holy Land, and\n > 4. The reinforcement of historical anti-Semitic tropes and calumnies married to sinister conspiracy theories. ...\n \n > After some general explanatory language about Hamas’s religious foundation and noble intentions, the covenant comes to the Islamic Resistance Movement’s raison d’être: the slaughter of Jews. “The Day of Judgement will not come about,” it proclaims, “until Moslems fight the Jews (killing the Jews), when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Moslems, O Abdulla, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him.”\n \n Regarding the new one, the one you linked:\n \n > **A Kinder, Gentler Charter?** \n > On May 1, 2017, Hamas issued a revised charter. Gone were the “vague religious rhetoric and outlandish utopian pronouncements” of the earlier document, according to analysis prepared for the Institute of Palestine Studies. Instead, the new charter was redolent of “straightforward and mostly pragmatic political language” that had “shifted the movement’s positions and policies further toward the spheres of pragmatism and nationalism as opposed to dogma and Islamism.” Nonetheless, the analyst was struck by “the movement’s adherence to its founding principles” alongside newly crafted, “carefully worded” language suggesting moderation and flexibility. \n > Israel immediately dismissed the group’s effort to promote a kinder, gentler image of its once avowedly bloodthirsty agenda. “Hamas is attempting to fool the world, but it will not succeed,” a spokesperson from Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s office predicted. \n > In fact, the new document differs little from its predecessor. Much like the original, the new document asserts Hamas’s long-standing goal of establishing a sovereign, Islamist Palestinian state that extends, according to Article 2, from the Jordan River to the Mediterranean Sea and from the Lebanese border to the Israeli city of Eilat—in other words, through the entirety of Israel, the West Bank, and Gaza. And it is similarly unequivocal about “the right of return” of all Palestinian refugees displaced as a result of the 1948 and 1967 wars (Article 12)—which is portrayed as “a natural right, both individual and collective,” divinely ordained and “inalienable.” That right, therefore “cannot be dispensed with by any party, whether Palestinian, Arab or international,” thus again rendering negotiations or efforts to achieve any kind of political settlement between Israel and the Palestinians irrelevant, void, or both. Article 27 forcefully reinforces this point: “There is no alternative to a fully sovereign Palestinian State on the entire national Palestinian soil, with Jerusalem as its capital.” \n > The most striking departure from the 1988 charter is that the 2017 statement of principles and objectives now claims that Hamas is not anti-Jewish but anti-Zionist and, accordingly, sees “Zionists” and not “Jews” as the preeminent enemy and target of its opprobrium. The revised document therefore modulates the blatantly anti-Semitic rhetoric of its predecessor but once again decries Zionism as central to a dark, conspiratorial plot of global dimensions. \n > For centuries, Jews have been blamed for causing the anti-Semitism directed against them. The new Hamas charter perpetuates this libel, arguing, “It is the Zionists who constantly identify Judaism and the Jews with their own colonial project and illegal entity” and who are therefore responsible for the conflation of anti-Zionism and anti-Semitism.\n \n It seems like Hamas revised some of the more objectionable language in the original, but they are still Hamas, and their intentions are quite clear both by word and deed. 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I appreciate you providing sources. You've given me a lot to chew on and it's good to have additional context.\n \n Reading some more, it seems like [there is rampant mistreatment of children on both sides of this conflict,](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Children_in_the_Israeli%E2%80%93Palestinian_conflict#) if anyone is worthy of sympathy in this conflict it's children.\n \n ---\n \n > <https://www.savethechildren.net/news/%E2%80%9Ctreated-animals%E2%80%9D-palestinian-children-face-inhumane-treatment-israeli-run-prisons> \n > <https://www.savethechildren.net/news/stripped-beaten-and-blindfolded-new-research-reveals-ongoing-violence-and-abuse-palestinian>\n \n The military prison abuse issue is one I wasn't aware of, that sounds pretty terrible. Clearly the military prisons need more oversight and the courts need reform. This one does seem like an example of systemic Israeli injustice.\n \n I wonder what the best approach is to rehabilitate kids who attack soldiers with stones? It seems like they're being treated like future enemy soldiers, which may or may not be true. In any event it seems like a self-fulfilling prophecy, given the additional animosity systemic abuse like this must engender.\n \n Wouldn't negotiating peace immediately remove Palestinians from the Israeli military court's authority? Seems like constant attacks just ensure that they remain under its jurisdiction.\n \n I haven't found any articles about attempts to address this problem, I'm curious what if anything is being done in Israel about this.\n \n ---\n \n > <https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/05/palestinian-boy-mohammed-abu-khdeir-burned-alive>\n \n The [murder of Mohammed Abu Khedir](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kidnapping_and_murder_of_Mohammed_Abu_Khdeir) was a terrible crime, and the people responsible were brought to justice *by Israel.*\n \n > [Mohammed's murderers] Ben David was sentenced to life in prison and an additional 20 years. ... On 4 February, the two minors were sentenced. One was given life imprisonment, the other was sentenced to serve 21 years.\n \n ---\n \n > <https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/how-israel-protects-its-settlers-who-burn-palestinian-children-alive>\n \n Wow, talk about a biased source!\n \n > It is hard to imagine a more hypocritical display than the crocodile tears of the same leaders who perpetrated the massacre of 2,200 Palestinians in Gaza last year, more than 500 of them children, now feigning outrage at the murder of one more.\n \n According to wikipedia [regarding the duma arson attack:](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duma_arson_attack)\n \n > On 3 January 2016, 21 year old Israeli settler Amiram Ben-Uliel was indicted for the murder, along with an Israeli minor, for participation in planning the murder. In addition, along with two others, they were both charged with one count of membership in a terrorist organization.[3][4] \n > In 2020, Ben-Uliel was convicted of three counts of murder, two counts of attempted murder, three counts of arson and of conspiring to commit a racially motivated crime,[5] as part of a "terrorist act".[6] However, he was acquitted of the charge of being a member of a terror organization.[7][8] He was sentenced to life imprisonment.[9]\n \n Again, criminals who were severely punished for their crimes *by Israel.*\n \n ---\n \n > <https://www.timesofisrael.com/ending-censorship-idf-admits-officer-jailed-in-2017-raped-a-palestinian-woman/>\n \n Rapist criminal, punished and convicted *by Israel.*\n \n ---\n \n > <https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/editorial/2023-09-05/ty-article-opinion/israels-humiliating-practice-of-strip-searching-palestinian-women/0000018a-61b0-daa9-a78f-efb765a30000> ( <https://archive.ph/e43iD> )\n \n Being strip searched sucks but if someone is suspected of being armed it doesn't seem unreasonable if there's probable cause. If there isn't probable cause the soldiers should be reprimanded. If the IDF account is credible the search seems like it was done professionally by female solders. I'm not sure why this ranks among the other grievances, but this is an op-ed after all.\n \n ---\n \n Of all these only the military prison for kids reeks of systemic injustice. Most of your examples are criminals who were punished by Israel for their crimes, motivated by the cycle of animosity. If the IDF were issuing orders to rape and murder non-combatant civilians you might have a case for equivalency but I see no evidence here of anything that can justify intentionally targeting civilians like Hamas has. 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Your concern is Palestine resisting massacre." +url: "https://lemy.lol/pictrs/image/58833b4b-c75a-428a-bafc-29e662706343.jpeg" +body: "This meme is from 2004. History repeats itself." +type: "image" +lang: "en" +isOc: false +hasEmbed: true +commentCount: 343 +favouriteCount: 1405 +score: 0 +isAdult: false +sticky: false +lastActive: DateTime @1698815619 {#2467 : 2023-11-01 06:13:39.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +adaAmount: 0 +tags: null +mentions: null +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1739 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1740 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2464 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1405 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2389 …} +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2023 …} +children: [ 1 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1666 +user: App\Entity\User {#260} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1561 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1565 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1584 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1579 …} +body: """ Thanks! I appreciate you providing sources. You've given me a lot to chew on and it's good to have additional context.\n \n Reading some more, it seems like [there is rampant mistreatment of children on both sides of this conflict,](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Children_in_the_Israeli%E2%80%93Palestinian_conflict#) if anyone is worthy of sympathy in this conflict it's children.\n \n ---\n \n > <https://www.savethechildren.net/news/%E2%80%9Ctreated-animals%E2%80%9D-palestinian-children-face-inhumane-treatment-israeli-run-prisons> \n > <https://www.savethechildren.net/news/stripped-beaten-and-blindfolded-new-research-reveals-ongoing-violence-and-abuse-palestinian>\n \n The military prison abuse issue is one I wasn't aware of, that sounds pretty terrible. Clearly the military prisons need more oversight and the courts need reform. This one does seem like an example of systemic Israeli injustice.\n \n I wonder what the best approach is to rehabilitate kids who attack soldiers with stones? It seems like they're being treated like future enemy soldiers, which may or may not be true. In any event it seems like a self-fulfilling prophecy, given the additional animosity systemic abuse like this must engender.\n \n Wouldn't negotiating peace immediately remove Palestinians from the Israeli military court's authority? Seems like constant attacks just ensure that they remain under its jurisdiction.\n \n I haven't found any articles about attempts to address this problem, I'm curious what if anything is being done in Israel about this.\n \n ---\n \n > <https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/05/palestinian-boy-mohammed-abu-khdeir-burned-alive>\n \n The [murder of Mohammed Abu Khedir](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kidnapping_and_murder_of_Mohammed_Abu_Khdeir) was a terrible crime, and the people responsible were brought to justice *by Israel.*\n \n > [Mohammed's murderers] Ben David was sentenced to life in prison and an additional 20 years. ... On 4 February, the two minors were sentenced. One was given life imprisonment, the other was sentenced to serve 21 years.\n \n ---\n \n > <https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/how-israel-protects-its-settlers-who-burn-palestinian-children-alive>\n \n Wow, talk about a biased source!\n \n > It is hard to imagine a more hypocritical display than the crocodile tears of the same leaders who perpetrated the massacre of 2,200 Palestinians in Gaza last year, more than 500 of them children, now feigning outrage at the murder of one more.\n \n According to wikipedia [regarding the duma arson attack:](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duma_arson_attack)\n \n > On 3 January 2016, 21 year old Israeli settler Amiram Ben-Uliel was indicted for the murder, along with an Israeli minor, for participation in planning the murder. In addition, along with two others, they were both charged with one count of membership in a terrorist organization.[3][4] \n > In 2020, Ben-Uliel was convicted of three counts of murder, two counts of attempted murder, three counts of arson and of conspiring to commit a racially motivated crime,[5] as part of a "terrorist act".[6] However, he was acquitted of the charge of being a member of a terror organization.[7][8] He was sentenced to life imprisonment.[9]\n \n Again, criminals who were severely punished for their crimes *by Israel.*\n \n ---\n \n > <https://www.timesofisrael.com/ending-censorship-idf-admits-officer-jailed-in-2017-raped-a-palestinian-woman/>\n \n Rapist criminal, punished and convicted *by Israel.*\n \n ---\n \n > <https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/editorial/2023-09-05/ty-article-opinion/israels-humiliating-practice-of-strip-searching-palestinian-women/0000018a-61b0-daa9-a78f-efb765a30000> ( <https://archive.ph/e43iD> )\n \n Being strip searched sucks but if someone is suspected of being armed it doesn't seem unreasonable if there's probable cause. If there isn't probable cause the soldiers should be reprimanded. If the IDF account is credible the search seems like it was done professionally by female solders. I'm not sure why this ranks among the other grievances, but this is an op-ed after all.\n \n ---\n \n Of all these only the military prison for kids reeks of systemic injustice. Most of your examples are criminals who were punished by Israel for their crimes, motivated by the cycle of animosity. If the IDF were issuing orders to rape and murder non-combatant civilians you might have a case for equivalency but I see no evidence here of anything that can justify intentionally targeting civilians like Hamas has. 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DateTimeImmutable @1697244109 {#1752 : 2023-10-14 02:41:49.0 +02:00 } +"title": 47450 } 0 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1689} ] -id: 5050 -titleTs: "'casualti':6,16 'civilian':5,15 'concern':12,18 'critic':4 'isn':13 'massacr':22 'palestin':8,20 'resist':9,21" -bodyTs: "'2004':5 'histori':6 'meme':2 'repeat':7" +cross: false +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +ranking: 1697306656 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemy.lol/post/11185015" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1697220256 {#1672 : 2023-10-13 20:04:16.0 +02:00 } +__isInitialized__: true …2 } +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1565 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1683 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1579 …} +body: """ Yes [the article I linked above](https://archive.ph/Wq1FC) discusses the revised charter. I see why you chose to share it rather than the original.\n \n Hamas' original charter of course was explicitly genocidal:\n \n > Released on August 18, 1988, the original covenant spells out clearly Hamas’s genocidal intentions. Accordingly, what happened in Israel on Saturday is completely in keeping with Hamas’s explicit aims and stated objectives. It was in fact the inchoate realization of Hamas’s true ambitions. \n > The most relevant of the document’s 36 articles can be summarized as falling within four main themes:\n > \n > 1. The complete destruction of Israel as an essential condition for the liberation of Palestine and the establishment of a theocratic state based on Islamic law (Sharia),\n > 2. The need for both unrestrained and unceasing holy war (jihad) to attain the above objective,\n > 3. The deliberate disdain for, and dismissal of, any negotiated resolution or political settlement of Jewish and Muslim claims to the Holy Land, and\n > 4. The reinforcement of historical anti-Semitic tropes and calumnies married to sinister conspiracy theories. ...\n \n > After some general explanatory language about Hamas’s religious foundation and noble intentions, the covenant comes to the Islamic Resistance Movement’s raison d’être: the slaughter of Jews. “The Day of Judgement will not come about,” it proclaims, “until Moslems fight the Jews (killing the Jews), when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Moslems, O Abdulla, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him.”\n \n Regarding the new one, the one you linked:\n \n > **A Kinder, Gentler Charter?** \n > On May 1, 2017, Hamas issued a revised charter. Gone were the “vague religious rhetoric and outlandish utopian pronouncements” of the earlier document, according to analysis prepared for the Institute of Palestine Studies. Instead, the new charter was redolent of “straightforward and mostly pragmatic political language” that had “shifted the movement’s positions and policies further toward the spheres of pragmatism and nationalism as opposed to dogma and Islamism.” Nonetheless, the analyst was struck by “the movement’s adherence to its founding principles” alongside newly crafted, “carefully worded” language suggesting moderation and flexibility. \n > Israel immediately dismissed the group’s effort to promote a kinder, gentler image of its once avowedly bloodthirsty agenda. “Hamas is attempting to fool the world, but it will not succeed,” a spokesperson from Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s office predicted. \n > In fact, the new document differs little from its predecessor. Much like the original, the new document asserts Hamas’s long-standing goal of establishing a sovereign, Islamist Palestinian state that extends, according to Article 2, from the Jordan River to the Mediterranean Sea and from the Lebanese border to the Israeli city of Eilat—in other words, through the entirety of Israel, the West Bank, and Gaza. And it is similarly unequivocal about “the right of return” of all Palestinian refugees displaced as a result of the 1948 and 1967 wars (Article 12)—which is portrayed as “a natural right, both individual and collective,” divinely ordained and “inalienable.” That right, therefore “cannot be dispensed with by any party, whether Palestinian, Arab or international,” thus again rendering negotiations or efforts to achieve any kind of political settlement between Israel and the Palestinians irrelevant, void, or both. Article 27 forcefully reinforces this point: “There is no alternative to a fully sovereign Palestinian State on the entire national Palestinian soil, with Jerusalem as its capital.” \n > The most striking departure from the 1988 charter is that the 2017 statement of principles and objectives now claims that Hamas is not anti-Jewish but anti-Zionist and, accordingly, sees “Zionists” and not “Jews” as the preeminent enemy and target of its opprobrium. The revised document therefore modulates the blatantly anti-Semitic rhetoric of its predecessor but once again decries Zionism as central to a dark, conspiratorial plot of global dimensions. \n > For centuries, Jews have been blamed for causing the anti-Semitism directed against them. The new Hamas charter perpetuates this libel, arguing, “It is the Zionists who constantly identify Judaism and the Jews with their own colonial project and illegal entity” and who are therefore responsible for the conflation of anti-Zionism and anti-Semitism.\n \n It seems like Hamas revised some of the more objectionable language in the original, but they are still Hamas, and their intentions are quite clear both by word and deed. 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Your concern is Palestine resisting massacre." +url: "https://lemy.lol/pictrs/image/58833b4b-c75a-428a-bafc-29e662706343.jpeg" +body: "This meme is from 2004. History repeats itself." +type: "image" +lang: "en" +isOc: false +hasEmbed: true +commentCount: 343 +favouriteCount: 1405 +score: 0 +isAdult: false +sticky: false +lastActive: DateTime @1698815619 {#2467 : 2023-11-01 06:13:39.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +adaAmount: 0 +tags: null +mentions: null +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1739 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1740 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2464 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1405 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2389 …} +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2023 …} +children: [ 1 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1666 +user: App\Entity\User {#260} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1561 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1565 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1584 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1579 …} +body: """ Thanks! I appreciate you providing sources. You've given me a lot to chew on and it's good to have additional context.\n \n Reading some more, it seems like [there is rampant mistreatment of children on both sides of this conflict,](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Children_in_the_Israeli%E2%80%93Palestinian_conflict#) if anyone is worthy of sympathy in this conflict it's children.\n \n ---\n \n > <https://www.savethechildren.net/news/%E2%80%9Ctreated-animals%E2%80%9D-palestinian-children-face-inhumane-treatment-israeli-run-prisons> \n > <https://www.savethechildren.net/news/stripped-beaten-and-blindfolded-new-research-reveals-ongoing-violence-and-abuse-palestinian>\n \n The military prison abuse issue is one I wasn't aware of, that sounds pretty terrible. Clearly the military prisons need more oversight and the courts need reform. This one does seem like an example of systemic Israeli injustice.\n \n I wonder what the best approach is to rehabilitate kids who attack soldiers with stones? It seems like they're being treated like future enemy soldiers, which may or may not be true. In any event it seems like a self-fulfilling prophecy, given the additional animosity systemic abuse like this must engender.\n \n Wouldn't negotiating peace immediately remove Palestinians from the Israeli military court's authority? Seems like constant attacks just ensure that they remain under its jurisdiction.\n \n I haven't found any articles about attempts to address this problem, I'm curious what if anything is being done in Israel about this.\n \n ---\n \n > <https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/05/palestinian-boy-mohammed-abu-khdeir-burned-alive>\n \n The [murder of Mohammed Abu Khedir](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kidnapping_and_murder_of_Mohammed_Abu_Khdeir) was a terrible crime, and the people responsible were brought to justice *by Israel.*\n \n > [Mohammed's murderers] Ben David was sentenced to life in prison and an additional 20 years. ... On 4 February, the two minors were sentenced. One was given life imprisonment, the other was sentenced to serve 21 years.\n \n ---\n \n > <https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/how-israel-protects-its-settlers-who-burn-palestinian-children-alive>\n \n Wow, talk about a biased source!\n \n > It is hard to imagine a more hypocritical display than the crocodile tears of the same leaders who perpetrated the massacre of 2,200 Palestinians in Gaza last year, more than 500 of them children, now feigning outrage at the murder of one more.\n \n According to wikipedia [regarding the duma arson attack:](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duma_arson_attack)\n \n > On 3 January 2016, 21 year old Israeli settler Amiram Ben-Uliel was indicted for the murder, along with an Israeli minor, for participation in planning the murder. In addition, along with two others, they were both charged with one count of membership in a terrorist organization.[3][4] \n > In 2020, Ben-Uliel was convicted of three counts of murder, two counts of attempted murder, three counts of arson and of conspiring to commit a racially motivated crime,[5] as part of a "terrorist act".[6] However, he was acquitted of the charge of being a member of a terror organization.[7][8] He was sentenced to life imprisonment.[9]\n \n Again, criminals who were severely punished for their crimes *by Israel.*\n \n ---\n \n > <https://www.timesofisrael.com/ending-censorship-idf-admits-officer-jailed-in-2017-raped-a-palestinian-woman/>\n \n Rapist criminal, punished and convicted *by Israel.*\n \n ---\n \n > <https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/editorial/2023-09-05/ty-article-opinion/israels-humiliating-practice-of-strip-searching-palestinian-women/0000018a-61b0-daa9-a78f-efb765a30000> ( <https://archive.ph/e43iD> )\n \n Being strip searched sucks but if someone is suspected of being armed it doesn't seem unreasonable if there's probable cause. If there isn't probable cause the soldiers should be reprimanded. If the IDF account is credible the search seems like it was done professionally by female solders. I'm not sure why this ranks among the other grievances, but this is an op-ed after all.\n \n ---\n \n Of all these only the military prison for kids reeks of systemic injustice. Most of your examples are criminals who were punished by Israel for their crimes, motivated by the cycle of animosity. If the IDF were issuing orders to rape and murder non-combatant civilians you might have a case for equivalency but I see no evidence here of anything that can justify intentionally targeting civilians like Hamas has. 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DateTimeImmutable @1697244109 {#1752 : 2023-10-14 02:41:49.0 +02:00 } +"title": 47450 } 0 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1689} ] -id: 5050 -titleTs: "'casualti':6,16 'civilian':5,15 'concern':12,18 'critic':4 'isn':13 'massacr':22 'palestin':8,20 'resist':9,21" -bodyTs: "'2004':5 'histori':6 'meme':2 'repeat':7" +cross: false +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +ranking: 1697306656 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemy.lol/post/11185015" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1697220256 {#1672 : 2023-10-13 20:04:16.0 +02:00 } +__isInitialized__: true …2 } +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1565 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1683 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1579 …} +body: """ Yes [the article I linked above](https://archive.ph/Wq1FC) discusses the revised charter. I see why you chose to share it rather than the original.\n \n Hamas' original charter of course was explicitly genocidal:\n \n > Released on August 18, 1988, the original covenant spells out clearly Hamas’s genocidal intentions. Accordingly, what happened in Israel on Saturday is completely in keeping with Hamas’s explicit aims and stated objectives. It was in fact the inchoate realization of Hamas’s true ambitions. \n > The most relevant of the document’s 36 articles can be summarized as falling within four main themes:\n > \n > 1. The complete destruction of Israel as an essential condition for the liberation of Palestine and the establishment of a theocratic state based on Islamic law (Sharia),\n > 2. The need for both unrestrained and unceasing holy war (jihad) to attain the above objective,\n > 3. The deliberate disdain for, and dismissal of, any negotiated resolution or political settlement of Jewish and Muslim claims to the Holy Land, and\n > 4. The reinforcement of historical anti-Semitic tropes and calumnies married to sinister conspiracy theories. ...\n \n > After some general explanatory language about Hamas’s religious foundation and noble intentions, the covenant comes to the Islamic Resistance Movement’s raison d’être: the slaughter of Jews. “The Day of Judgement will not come about,” it proclaims, “until Moslems fight the Jews (killing the Jews), when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Moslems, O Abdulla, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him.”\n \n Regarding the new one, the one you linked:\n \n > **A Kinder, Gentler Charter?** \n > On May 1, 2017, Hamas issued a revised charter. Gone were the “vague religious rhetoric and outlandish utopian pronouncements” of the earlier document, according to analysis prepared for the Institute of Palestine Studies. Instead, the new charter was redolent of “straightforward and mostly pragmatic political language” that had “shifted the movement’s positions and policies further toward the spheres of pragmatism and nationalism as opposed to dogma and Islamism.” Nonetheless, the analyst was struck by “the movement’s adherence to its founding principles” alongside newly crafted, “carefully worded” language suggesting moderation and flexibility. \n > Israel immediately dismissed the group’s effort to promote a kinder, gentler image of its once avowedly bloodthirsty agenda. “Hamas is attempting to fool the world, but it will not succeed,” a spokesperson from Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s office predicted. \n > In fact, the new document differs little from its predecessor. Much like the original, the new document asserts Hamas’s long-standing goal of establishing a sovereign, Islamist Palestinian state that extends, according to Article 2, from the Jordan River to the Mediterranean Sea and from the Lebanese border to the Israeli city of Eilat—in other words, through the entirety of Israel, the West Bank, and Gaza. And it is similarly unequivocal about “the right of return” of all Palestinian refugees displaced as a result of the 1948 and 1967 wars (Article 12)—which is portrayed as “a natural right, both individual and collective,” divinely ordained and “inalienable.” That right, therefore “cannot be dispensed with by any party, whether Palestinian, Arab or international,” thus again rendering negotiations or efforts to achieve any kind of political settlement between Israel and the Palestinians irrelevant, void, or both. Article 27 forcefully reinforces this point: “There is no alternative to a fully sovereign Palestinian State on the entire national Palestinian soil, with Jerusalem as its capital.” \n > The most striking departure from the 1988 charter is that the 2017 statement of principles and objectives now claims that Hamas is not anti-Jewish but anti-Zionist and, accordingly, sees “Zionists” and not “Jews” as the preeminent enemy and target of its opprobrium. The revised document therefore modulates the blatantly anti-Semitic rhetoric of its predecessor but once again decries Zionism as central to a dark, conspiratorial plot of global dimensions. \n > For centuries, Jews have been blamed for causing the anti-Semitism directed against them. The new Hamas charter perpetuates this libel, arguing, “It is the Zionists who constantly identify Judaism and the Jews with their own colonial project and illegal entity” and who are therefore responsible for the conflation of anti-Zionism and anti-Semitism.\n \n It seems like Hamas revised some of the more objectionable language in the original, but they are still Hamas, and their intentions are quite clear both by word and deed. 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| Component | App\Twig\Components\DateComponent {#4668 +date: DateTimeImmutable @1697245106 {#1691 : 2023-10-14 02:58:26.0 +02:00 } } |
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| date_edited | App\Twig\Components\DateEditedComponent | 12.0 MiB | 0.09 ms | |
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Be civil and nice.\n 2. Try not to excessively repost, as a rule of thumb, wait at least 2 months to do it if you *have* to. 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Your concern is Palestine resisting massacre." +url: "https://lemy.lol/pictrs/image/58833b4b-c75a-428a-bafc-29e662706343.jpeg" +body: "This meme is from 2004. History repeats itself." +type: "image" +lang: "en" +isOc: false +hasEmbed: true +commentCount: 343 +favouriteCount: 1405 +score: 0 +isAdult: false +sticky: false +lastActive: DateTime @1698815619 {#2467 : 2023-11-01 06:13:39.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +adaAmount: 0 +tags: null +mentions: null +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1739 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1740 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2464 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1405 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2389 …} +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2023 …} +children: [ 1 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1666 +user: App\Entity\User {#260} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1561 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1565 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1584 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1579 …} +body: """ Thanks! I appreciate you providing sources. You've given me a lot to chew on and it's good to have additional context.\n \n Reading some more, it seems like [there is rampant mistreatment of children on both sides of this conflict,](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Children_in_the_Israeli%E2%80%93Palestinian_conflict#) if anyone is worthy of sympathy in this conflict it's children.\n \n ---\n \n > <https://www.savethechildren.net/news/%E2%80%9Ctreated-animals%E2%80%9D-palestinian-children-face-inhumane-treatment-israeli-run-prisons> \n > <https://www.savethechildren.net/news/stripped-beaten-and-blindfolded-new-research-reveals-ongoing-violence-and-abuse-palestinian>\n \n The military prison abuse issue is one I wasn't aware of, that sounds pretty terrible. Clearly the military prisons need more oversight and the courts need reform. This one does seem like an example of systemic Israeli injustice.\n \n I wonder what the best approach is to rehabilitate kids who attack soldiers with stones? It seems like they're being treated like future enemy soldiers, which may or may not be true. In any event it seems like a self-fulfilling prophecy, given the additional animosity systemic abuse like this must engender.\n \n Wouldn't negotiating peace immediately remove Palestinians from the Israeli military court's authority? Seems like constant attacks just ensure that they remain under its jurisdiction.\n \n I haven't found any articles about attempts to address this problem, I'm curious what if anything is being done in Israel about this.\n \n ---\n \n > <https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/05/palestinian-boy-mohammed-abu-khdeir-burned-alive>\n \n The [murder of Mohammed Abu Khedir](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kidnapping_and_murder_of_Mohammed_Abu_Khdeir) was a terrible crime, and the people responsible were brought to justice *by Israel.*\n \n > [Mohammed's murderers] Ben David was sentenced to life in prison and an additional 20 years. ... On 4 February, the two minors were sentenced. One was given life imprisonment, the other was sentenced to serve 21 years.\n \n ---\n \n > <https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/how-israel-protects-its-settlers-who-burn-palestinian-children-alive>\n \n Wow, talk about a biased source!\n \n > It is hard to imagine a more hypocritical display than the crocodile tears of the same leaders who perpetrated the massacre of 2,200 Palestinians in Gaza last year, more than 500 of them children, now feigning outrage at the murder of one more.\n \n According to wikipedia [regarding the duma arson attack:](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duma_arson_attack)\n \n > On 3 January 2016, 21 year old Israeli settler Amiram Ben-Uliel was indicted for the murder, along with an Israeli minor, for participation in planning the murder. In addition, along with two others, they were both charged with one count of membership in a terrorist organization.[3][4] \n > In 2020, Ben-Uliel was convicted of three counts of murder, two counts of attempted murder, three counts of arson and of conspiring to commit a racially motivated crime,[5] as part of a "terrorist act".[6] However, he was acquitted of the charge of being a member of a terror organization.[7][8] He was sentenced to life imprisonment.[9]\n \n Again, criminals who were severely punished for their crimes *by Israel.*\n \n ---\n \n > <https://www.timesofisrael.com/ending-censorship-idf-admits-officer-jailed-in-2017-raped-a-palestinian-woman/>\n \n Rapist criminal, punished and convicted *by Israel.*\n \n ---\n \n > <https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/editorial/2023-09-05/ty-article-opinion/israels-humiliating-practice-of-strip-searching-palestinian-women/0000018a-61b0-daa9-a78f-efb765a30000> ( <https://archive.ph/e43iD> )\n \n Being strip searched sucks but if someone is suspected of being armed it doesn't seem unreasonable if there's probable cause. If there isn't probable cause the soldiers should be reprimanded. If the IDF account is credible the search seems like it was done professionally by female solders. I'm not sure why this ranks among the other grievances, but this is an op-ed after all.\n \n ---\n \n Of all these only the military prison for kids reeks of systemic injustice. Most of your examples are criminals who were punished by Israel for their crimes, motivated by the cycle of animosity. If the IDF were issuing orders to rape and murder non-combatant civilians you might have a case for equivalency but I see no evidence here of anything that can justify intentionally targeting civilians like Hamas has. 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DateTimeImmutable @1697244109 {#1752 : 2023-10-14 02:41:49.0 +02:00 } +"title": 47450 } 0 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1689} ] -id: 5050 -titleTs: "'casualti':6,16 'civilian':5,15 'concern':12,18 'critic':4 'isn':13 'massacr':22 'palestin':8,20 'resist':9,21" -bodyTs: "'2004':5 'histori':6 'meme':2 'repeat':7" +cross: false +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +ranking: 1697306656 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemy.lol/post/11185015" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1697220256 {#1672 : 2023-10-13 20:04:16.0 +02:00 } +__isInitialized__: true …2 } +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1565 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1683 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1579 …} +body: """ Yes [the article I linked above](https://archive.ph/Wq1FC) discusses the revised charter. I see why you chose to share it rather than the original.\n \n Hamas' original charter of course was explicitly genocidal:\n \n > Released on August 18, 1988, the original covenant spells out clearly Hamas’s genocidal intentions. Accordingly, what happened in Israel on Saturday is completely in keeping with Hamas’s explicit aims and stated objectives. It was in fact the inchoate realization of Hamas’s true ambitions. \n > The most relevant of the document’s 36 articles can be summarized as falling within four main themes:\n > \n > 1. The complete destruction of Israel as an essential condition for the liberation of Palestine and the establishment of a theocratic state based on Islamic law (Sharia),\n > 2. The need for both unrestrained and unceasing holy war (jihad) to attain the above objective,\n > 3. The deliberate disdain for, and dismissal of, any negotiated resolution or political settlement of Jewish and Muslim claims to the Holy Land, and\n > 4. The reinforcement of historical anti-Semitic tropes and calumnies married to sinister conspiracy theories. ...\n \n > After some general explanatory language about Hamas’s religious foundation and noble intentions, the covenant comes to the Islamic Resistance Movement’s raison d’être: the slaughter of Jews. “The Day of Judgement will not come about,” it proclaims, “until Moslems fight the Jews (killing the Jews), when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Moslems, O Abdulla, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him.”\n \n Regarding the new one, the one you linked:\n \n > **A Kinder, Gentler Charter?** \n > On May 1, 2017, Hamas issued a revised charter. Gone were the “vague religious rhetoric and outlandish utopian pronouncements” of the earlier document, according to analysis prepared for the Institute of Palestine Studies. Instead, the new charter was redolent of “straightforward and mostly pragmatic political language” that had “shifted the movement’s positions and policies further toward the spheres of pragmatism and nationalism as opposed to dogma and Islamism.” Nonetheless, the analyst was struck by “the movement’s adherence to its founding principles” alongside newly crafted, “carefully worded” language suggesting moderation and flexibility. \n > Israel immediately dismissed the group’s effort to promote a kinder, gentler image of its once avowedly bloodthirsty agenda. “Hamas is attempting to fool the world, but it will not succeed,” a spokesperson from Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s office predicted. \n > In fact, the new document differs little from its predecessor. Much like the original, the new document asserts Hamas’s long-standing goal of establishing a sovereign, Islamist Palestinian state that extends, according to Article 2, from the Jordan River to the Mediterranean Sea and from the Lebanese border to the Israeli city of Eilat—in other words, through the entirety of Israel, the West Bank, and Gaza. And it is similarly unequivocal about “the right of return” of all Palestinian refugees displaced as a result of the 1948 and 1967 wars (Article 12)—which is portrayed as “a natural right, both individual and collective,” divinely ordained and “inalienable.” That right, therefore “cannot be dispensed with by any party, whether Palestinian, Arab or international,” thus again rendering negotiations or efforts to achieve any kind of political settlement between Israel and the Palestinians irrelevant, void, or both. Article 27 forcefully reinforces this point: “There is no alternative to a fully sovereign Palestinian State on the entire national Palestinian soil, with Jerusalem as its capital.” \n > The most striking departure from the 1988 charter is that the 2017 statement of principles and objectives now claims that Hamas is not anti-Jewish but anti-Zionist and, accordingly, sees “Zionists” and not “Jews” as the preeminent enemy and target of its opprobrium. The revised document therefore modulates the blatantly anti-Semitic rhetoric of its predecessor but once again decries Zionism as central to a dark, conspiratorial plot of global dimensions. \n > For centuries, Jews have been blamed for causing the anti-Semitism directed against them. 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Your concern is Palestine resisting massacre." +url: "https://lemy.lol/pictrs/image/58833b4b-c75a-428a-bafc-29e662706343.jpeg" +body: "This meme is from 2004. History repeats itself." +type: "image" +lang: "en" +isOc: false +hasEmbed: true +commentCount: 343 +favouriteCount: 1405 +score: 0 +isAdult: false +sticky: false +lastActive: DateTime @1698815619 {#2467 : 2023-11-01 06:13:39.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +adaAmount: 0 +tags: null +mentions: null +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1739 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1740 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2464 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1405 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2389 …} +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2023 …} +children: [ 1 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1666 +user: App\Entity\User {#260} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1561 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1565 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1584 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1579 …} +body: """ Thanks! I appreciate you providing sources. You've given me a lot to chew on and it's good to have additional context.\n \n Reading some more, it seems like [there is rampant mistreatment of children on both sides of this conflict,](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Children_in_the_Israeli%E2%80%93Palestinian_conflict#) if anyone is worthy of sympathy in this conflict it's children.\n \n ---\n \n > <https://www.savethechildren.net/news/%E2%80%9Ctreated-animals%E2%80%9D-palestinian-children-face-inhumane-treatment-israeli-run-prisons> \n > <https://www.savethechildren.net/news/stripped-beaten-and-blindfolded-new-research-reveals-ongoing-violence-and-abuse-palestinian>\n \n The military prison abuse issue is one I wasn't aware of, that sounds pretty terrible. Clearly the military prisons need more oversight and the courts need reform. This one does seem like an example of systemic Israeli injustice.\n \n I wonder what the best approach is to rehabilitate kids who attack soldiers with stones? It seems like they're being treated like future enemy soldiers, which may or may not be true. In any event it seems like a self-fulfilling prophecy, given the additional animosity systemic abuse like this must engender.\n \n Wouldn't negotiating peace immediately remove Palestinians from the Israeli military court's authority? Seems like constant attacks just ensure that they remain under its jurisdiction.\n \n I haven't found any articles about attempts to address this problem, I'm curious what if anything is being done in Israel about this.\n \n ---\n \n > <https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/05/palestinian-boy-mohammed-abu-khdeir-burned-alive>\n \n The [murder of Mohammed Abu Khedir](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kidnapping_and_murder_of_Mohammed_Abu_Khdeir) was a terrible crime, and the people responsible were brought to justice *by Israel.*\n \n > [Mohammed's murderers] Ben David was sentenced to life in prison and an additional 20 years. ... On 4 February, the two minors were sentenced. One was given life imprisonment, the other was sentenced to serve 21 years.\n \n ---\n \n > <https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/how-israel-protects-its-settlers-who-burn-palestinian-children-alive>\n \n Wow, talk about a biased source!\n \n > It is hard to imagine a more hypocritical display than the crocodile tears of the same leaders who perpetrated the massacre of 2,200 Palestinians in Gaza last year, more than 500 of them children, now feigning outrage at the murder of one more.\n \n According to wikipedia [regarding the duma arson attack:](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duma_arson_attack)\n \n > On 3 January 2016, 21 year old Israeli settler Amiram Ben-Uliel was indicted for the murder, along with an Israeli minor, for participation in planning the murder. In addition, along with two others, they were both charged with one count of membership in a terrorist organization.[3][4] \n > In 2020, Ben-Uliel was convicted of three counts of murder, two counts of attempted murder, three counts of arson and of conspiring to commit a racially motivated crime,[5] as part of a "terrorist act".[6] However, he was acquitted of the charge of being a member of a terror organization.[7][8] He was sentenced to life imprisonment.[9]\n \n Again, criminals who were severely punished for their crimes *by Israel.*\n \n ---\n \n > <https://www.timesofisrael.com/ending-censorship-idf-admits-officer-jailed-in-2017-raped-a-palestinian-woman/>\n \n Rapist criminal, punished and convicted *by Israel.*\n \n ---\n \n > <https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/editorial/2023-09-05/ty-article-opinion/israels-humiliating-practice-of-strip-searching-palestinian-women/0000018a-61b0-daa9-a78f-efb765a30000> ( <https://archive.ph/e43iD> )\n \n Being strip searched sucks but if someone is suspected of being armed it doesn't seem unreasonable if there's probable cause. If there isn't probable cause the soldiers should be reprimanded. If the IDF account is credible the search seems like it was done professionally by female solders. I'm not sure why this ranks among the other grievances, but this is an op-ed after all.\n \n ---\n \n Of all these only the military prison for kids reeks of systemic injustice. Most of your examples are criminals who were punished by Israel for their crimes, motivated by the cycle of animosity. If the IDF were issuing orders to rape and murder non-combatant civilians you might have a case for equivalency but I see no evidence here of anything that can justify intentionally targeting civilians like Hamas has. 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I see why you chose to share it rather than the original.\n \n Hamas' original charter of course was explicitly genocidal:\n \n > Released on August 18, 1988, the original covenant spells out clearly Hamas’s genocidal intentions. Accordingly, what happened in Israel on Saturday is completely in keeping with Hamas’s explicit aims and stated objectives. It was in fact the inchoate realization of Hamas’s true ambitions. \n > The most relevant of the document’s 36 articles can be summarized as falling within four main themes:\n > \n > 1. The complete destruction of Israel as an essential condition for the liberation of Palestine and the establishment of a theocratic state based on Islamic law (Sharia),\n > 2. The need for both unrestrained and unceasing holy war (jihad) to attain the above objective,\n > 3. The deliberate disdain for, and dismissal of, any negotiated resolution or political settlement of Jewish and Muslim claims to the Holy Land, and\n > 4. The reinforcement of historical anti-Semitic tropes and calumnies married to sinister conspiracy theories. ...\n \n > After some general explanatory language about Hamas’s religious foundation and noble intentions, the covenant comes to the Islamic Resistance Movement’s raison d’être: the slaughter of Jews. “The Day of Judgement will not come about,” it proclaims, “until Moslems fight the Jews (killing the Jews), when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Moslems, O Abdulla, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him.”\n \n Regarding the new one, the one you linked:\n \n > **A Kinder, Gentler Charter?** \n > On May 1, 2017, Hamas issued a revised charter. Gone were the “vague religious rhetoric and outlandish utopian pronouncements” of the earlier document, according to analysis prepared for the Institute of Palestine Studies. Instead, the new charter was redolent of “straightforward and mostly pragmatic political language” that had “shifted the movement’s positions and policies further toward the spheres of pragmatism and nationalism as opposed to dogma and Islamism.” Nonetheless, the analyst was struck by “the movement’s adherence to its founding principles” alongside newly crafted, “carefully worded” language suggesting moderation and flexibility. \n > Israel immediately dismissed the group’s effort to promote a kinder, gentler image of its once avowedly bloodthirsty agenda. “Hamas is attempting to fool the world, but it will not succeed,” a spokesperson from Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s office predicted. \n > In fact, the new document differs little from its predecessor. Much like the original, the new document asserts Hamas’s long-standing goal of establishing a sovereign, Islamist Palestinian state that extends, according to Article 2, from the Jordan River to the Mediterranean Sea and from the Lebanese border to the Israeli city of Eilat—in other words, through the entirety of Israel, the West Bank, and Gaza. And it is similarly unequivocal about “the right of return” of all Palestinian refugees displaced as a result of the 1948 and 1967 wars (Article 12)—which is portrayed as “a natural right, both individual and collective,” divinely ordained and “inalienable.” That right, therefore “cannot be dispensed with by any party, whether Palestinian, Arab or international,” thus again rendering negotiations or efforts to achieve any kind of political settlement between Israel and the Palestinians irrelevant, void, or both. Article 27 forcefully reinforces this point: “There is no alternative to a fully sovereign Palestinian State on the entire national Palestinian soil, with Jerusalem as its capital.” \n > The most striking departure from the 1988 charter is that the 2017 statement of principles and objectives now claims that Hamas is not anti-Jewish but anti-Zionist and, accordingly, sees “Zionists” and not “Jews” as the preeminent enemy and target of its opprobrium. The revised document therefore modulates the blatantly anti-Semitic rhetoric of its predecessor but once again decries Zionism as central to a dark, conspiratorial plot of global dimensions. \n > For centuries, Jews have been blamed for causing the anti-Semitism directed against them. The new Hamas charter perpetuates this libel, arguing, “It is the Zionists who constantly identify Judaism and the Jews with their own colonial project and illegal entity” and who are therefore responsible for the conflation of anti-Zionism and anti-Semitism.\n \n It seems like Hamas revised some of the more objectionable language in the original, but they are still Hamas, and their intentions are quite clear both by word and deed. 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Be civil and nice.\n 2. Try not to excessively repost, as a rule of thumb, wait at least 2 months to do it if you *have* to. 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Your concern is Palestine resisting massacre." +url: "https://lemy.lol/pictrs/image/58833b4b-c75a-428a-bafc-29e662706343.jpeg" +body: "This meme is from 2004. History repeats itself." +type: "image" +lang: "en" +isOc: false +hasEmbed: true +commentCount: 343 +favouriteCount: 1405 +score: 0 +isAdult: false +sticky: false +lastActive: DateTime @1698815619 {#2467 : 2023-11-01 06:13:39.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +adaAmount: 0 +tags: null +mentions: null +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1739 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1740 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2464 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1405 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2389 …} +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2023 …} +children: [ 1 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1666 +user: App\Entity\User {#260} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1561 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1565 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1584 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1579 …} +body: """ Thanks! I appreciate you providing sources. You've given me a lot to chew on and it's good to have additional context.\n \n Reading some more, it seems like [there is rampant mistreatment of children on both sides of this conflict,](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Children_in_the_Israeli%E2%80%93Palestinian_conflict#) if anyone is worthy of sympathy in this conflict it's children.\n \n ---\n \n > <https://www.savethechildren.net/news/%E2%80%9Ctreated-animals%E2%80%9D-palestinian-children-face-inhumane-treatment-israeli-run-prisons> \n > <https://www.savethechildren.net/news/stripped-beaten-and-blindfolded-new-research-reveals-ongoing-violence-and-abuse-palestinian>\n \n The military prison abuse issue is one I wasn't aware of, that sounds pretty terrible. Clearly the military prisons need more oversight and the courts need reform. This one does seem like an example of systemic Israeli injustice.\n \n I wonder what the best approach is to rehabilitate kids who attack soldiers with stones? It seems like they're being treated like future enemy soldiers, which may or may not be true. In any event it seems like a self-fulfilling prophecy, given the additional animosity systemic abuse like this must engender.\n \n Wouldn't negotiating peace immediately remove Palestinians from the Israeli military court's authority? Seems like constant attacks just ensure that they remain under its jurisdiction.\n \n I haven't found any articles about attempts to address this problem, I'm curious what if anything is being done in Israel about this.\n \n ---\n \n > <https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/05/palestinian-boy-mohammed-abu-khdeir-burned-alive>\n \n The [murder of Mohammed Abu Khedir](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kidnapping_and_murder_of_Mohammed_Abu_Khdeir) was a terrible crime, and the people responsible were brought to justice *by Israel.*\n \n > [Mohammed's murderers] Ben David was sentenced to life in prison and an additional 20 years. ... On 4 February, the two minors were sentenced. One was given life imprisonment, the other was sentenced to serve 21 years.\n \n ---\n \n > <https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/how-israel-protects-its-settlers-who-burn-palestinian-children-alive>\n \n Wow, talk about a biased source!\n \n > It is hard to imagine a more hypocritical display than the crocodile tears of the same leaders who perpetrated the massacre of 2,200 Palestinians in Gaza last year, more than 500 of them children, now feigning outrage at the murder of one more.\n \n According to wikipedia [regarding the duma arson attack:](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duma_arson_attack)\n \n > On 3 January 2016, 21 year old Israeli settler Amiram Ben-Uliel was indicted for the murder, along with an Israeli minor, for participation in planning the murder. In addition, along with two others, they were both charged with one count of membership in a terrorist organization.[3][4] \n > In 2020, Ben-Uliel was convicted of three counts of murder, two counts of attempted murder, three counts of arson and of conspiring to commit a racially motivated crime,[5] as part of a "terrorist act".[6] However, he was acquitted of the charge of being a member of a terror organization.[7][8] He was sentenced to life imprisonment.[9]\n \n Again, criminals who were severely punished for their crimes *by Israel.*\n \n ---\n \n > <https://www.timesofisrael.com/ending-censorship-idf-admits-officer-jailed-in-2017-raped-a-palestinian-woman/>\n \n Rapist criminal, punished and convicted *by Israel.*\n \n ---\n \n > <https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/editorial/2023-09-05/ty-article-opinion/israels-humiliating-practice-of-strip-searching-palestinian-women/0000018a-61b0-daa9-a78f-efb765a30000> ( <https://archive.ph/e43iD> )\n \n Being strip searched sucks but if someone is suspected of being armed it doesn't seem unreasonable if there's probable cause. If there isn't probable cause the soldiers should be reprimanded. If the IDF account is credible the search seems like it was done professionally by female solders. I'm not sure why this ranks among the other grievances, but this is an op-ed after all.\n \n ---\n \n Of all these only the military prison for kids reeks of systemic injustice. Most of your examples are criminals who were punished by Israel for their crimes, motivated by the cycle of animosity. If the IDF were issuing orders to rape and murder non-combatant civilians you might have a case for equivalency but I see no evidence here of anything that can justify intentionally targeting civilians like Hamas has. 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DateTimeImmutable @1697244109 {#1752 : 2023-10-14 02:41:49.0 +02:00 } +"title": 47450 } 0 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1689} ] -id: 5050 -titleTs: "'casualti':6,16 'civilian':5,15 'concern':12,18 'critic':4 'isn':13 'massacr':22 'palestin':8,20 'resist':9,21" -bodyTs: "'2004':5 'histori':6 'meme':2 'repeat':7" +cross: false +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +ranking: 1697306656 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemy.lol/post/11185015" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1697220256 {#1672 : 2023-10-13 20:04:16.0 +02:00 } +__isInitialized__: true …2 } +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1565 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1683 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1579 …} +body: """ Yes [the article I linked above](https://archive.ph/Wq1FC) discusses the revised charter. I see why you chose to share it rather than the original.\n \n Hamas' original charter of course was explicitly genocidal:\n \n > Released on August 18, 1988, the original covenant spells out clearly Hamas’s genocidal intentions. Accordingly, what happened in Israel on Saturday is completely in keeping with Hamas’s explicit aims and stated objectives. It was in fact the inchoate realization of Hamas’s true ambitions. \n > The most relevant of the document’s 36 articles can be summarized as falling within four main themes:\n > \n > 1. The complete destruction of Israel as an essential condition for the liberation of Palestine and the establishment of a theocratic state based on Islamic law (Sharia),\n > 2. The need for both unrestrained and unceasing holy war (jihad) to attain the above objective,\n > 3. The deliberate disdain for, and dismissal of, any negotiated resolution or political settlement of Jewish and Muslim claims to the Holy Land, and\n > 4. The reinforcement of historical anti-Semitic tropes and calumnies married to sinister conspiracy theories. ...\n \n > After some general explanatory language about Hamas’s religious foundation and noble intentions, the covenant comes to the Islamic Resistance Movement’s raison d’être: the slaughter of Jews. “The Day of Judgement will not come about,” it proclaims, “until Moslems fight the Jews (killing the Jews), when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Moslems, O Abdulla, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him.”\n \n Regarding the new one, the one you linked:\n \n > **A Kinder, Gentler Charter?** \n > On May 1, 2017, Hamas issued a revised charter. Gone were the “vague religious rhetoric and outlandish utopian pronouncements” of the earlier document, according to analysis prepared for the Institute of Palestine Studies. Instead, the new charter was redolent of “straightforward and mostly pragmatic political language” that had “shifted the movement’s positions and policies further toward the spheres of pragmatism and nationalism as opposed to dogma and Islamism.” Nonetheless, the analyst was struck by “the movement’s adherence to its founding principles” alongside newly crafted, “carefully worded” language suggesting moderation and flexibility. \n > Israel immediately dismissed the group’s effort to promote a kinder, gentler image of its once avowedly bloodthirsty agenda. “Hamas is attempting to fool the world, but it will not succeed,” a spokesperson from Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s office predicted. \n > In fact, the new document differs little from its predecessor. Much like the original, the new document asserts Hamas’s long-standing goal of establishing a sovereign, Islamist Palestinian state that extends, according to Article 2, from the Jordan River to the Mediterranean Sea and from the Lebanese border to the Israeli city of Eilat—in other words, through the entirety of Israel, the West Bank, and Gaza. And it is similarly unequivocal about “the right of return” of all Palestinian refugees displaced as a result of the 1948 and 1967 wars (Article 12)—which is portrayed as “a natural right, both individual and collective,” divinely ordained and “inalienable.” That right, therefore “cannot be dispensed with by any party, whether Palestinian, Arab or international,” thus again rendering negotiations or efforts to achieve any kind of political settlement between Israel and the Palestinians irrelevant, void, or both. Article 27 forcefully reinforces this point: “There is no alternative to a fully sovereign Palestinian State on the entire national Palestinian soil, with Jerusalem as its capital.” \n > The most striking departure from the 1988 charter is that the 2017 statement of principles and objectives now claims that Hamas is not anti-Jewish but anti-Zionist and, accordingly, sees “Zionists” and not “Jews” as the preeminent enemy and target of its opprobrium. The revised document therefore modulates the blatantly anti-Semitic rhetoric of its predecessor but once again decries Zionism as central to a dark, conspiratorial plot of global dimensions. \n > For centuries, Jews have been blamed for causing the anti-Semitism directed against them. The new Hamas charter perpetuates this libel, arguing, “It is the Zionists who constantly identify Judaism and the Jews with their own colonial project and illegal entity” and who are therefore responsible for the conflation of anti-Zionism and anti-Semitism.\n \n It seems like Hamas revised some of the more objectionable language in the original, but they are still Hamas, and their intentions are quite clear both by word and deed. 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Your concern is Palestine resisting massacre." +url: "https://lemy.lol/pictrs/image/58833b4b-c75a-428a-bafc-29e662706343.jpeg" +body: "This meme is from 2004. History repeats itself." +type: "image" +lang: "en" +isOc: false +hasEmbed: true +commentCount: 343 +favouriteCount: 1405 +score: 0 +isAdult: false +sticky: false +lastActive: DateTime @1698815619 {#2467 : 2023-11-01 06:13:39.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +adaAmount: 0 +tags: null +mentions: null +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1739 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1740 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2464 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1405 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2389 …} +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2023 …} +children: [ 1 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1666 +user: App\Entity\User {#260} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1561 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1565 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1584 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1579 …} +body: """ Thanks! I appreciate you providing sources. You've given me a lot to chew on and it's good to have additional context.\n \n Reading some more, it seems like [there is rampant mistreatment of children on both sides of this conflict,](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Children_in_the_Israeli%E2%80%93Palestinian_conflict#) if anyone is worthy of sympathy in this conflict it's children.\n \n ---\n \n > <https://www.savethechildren.net/news/%E2%80%9Ctreated-animals%E2%80%9D-palestinian-children-face-inhumane-treatment-israeli-run-prisons> \n > <https://www.savethechildren.net/news/stripped-beaten-and-blindfolded-new-research-reveals-ongoing-violence-and-abuse-palestinian>\n \n The military prison abuse issue is one I wasn't aware of, that sounds pretty terrible. Clearly the military prisons need more oversight and the courts need reform. This one does seem like an example of systemic Israeli injustice.\n \n I wonder what the best approach is to rehabilitate kids who attack soldiers with stones? It seems like they're being treated like future enemy soldiers, which may or may not be true. In any event it seems like a self-fulfilling prophecy, given the additional animosity systemic abuse like this must engender.\n \n Wouldn't negotiating peace immediately remove Palestinians from the Israeli military court's authority? Seems like constant attacks just ensure that they remain under its jurisdiction.\n \n I haven't found any articles about attempts to address this problem, I'm curious what if anything is being done in Israel about this.\n \n ---\n \n > <https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/05/palestinian-boy-mohammed-abu-khdeir-burned-alive>\n \n The [murder of Mohammed Abu Khedir](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kidnapping_and_murder_of_Mohammed_Abu_Khdeir) was a terrible crime, and the people responsible were brought to justice *by Israel.*\n \n > [Mohammed's murderers] Ben David was sentenced to life in prison and an additional 20 years. ... On 4 February, the two minors were sentenced. One was given life imprisonment, the other was sentenced to serve 21 years.\n \n ---\n \n > <https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/how-israel-protects-its-settlers-who-burn-palestinian-children-alive>\n \n Wow, talk about a biased source!\n \n > It is hard to imagine a more hypocritical display than the crocodile tears of the same leaders who perpetrated the massacre of 2,200 Palestinians in Gaza last year, more than 500 of them children, now feigning outrage at the murder of one more.\n \n According to wikipedia [regarding the duma arson attack:](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duma_arson_attack)\n \n > On 3 January 2016, 21 year old Israeli settler Amiram Ben-Uliel was indicted for the murder, along with an Israeli minor, for participation in planning the murder. In addition, along with two others, they were both charged with one count of membership in a terrorist organization.[3][4] \n > In 2020, Ben-Uliel was convicted of three counts of murder, two counts of attempted murder, three counts of arson and of conspiring to commit a racially motivated crime,[5] as part of a "terrorist act".[6] However, he was acquitted of the charge of being a member of a terror organization.[7][8] He was sentenced to life imprisonment.[9]\n \n Again, criminals who were severely punished for their crimes *by Israel.*\n \n ---\n \n > <https://www.timesofisrael.com/ending-censorship-idf-admits-officer-jailed-in-2017-raped-a-palestinian-woman/>\n \n Rapist criminal, punished and convicted *by Israel.*\n \n ---\n \n > <https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/editorial/2023-09-05/ty-article-opinion/israels-humiliating-practice-of-strip-searching-palestinian-women/0000018a-61b0-daa9-a78f-efb765a30000> ( <https://archive.ph/e43iD> )\n \n Being strip searched sucks but if someone is suspected of being armed it doesn't seem unreasonable if there's probable cause. If there isn't probable cause the soldiers should be reprimanded. If the IDF account is credible the search seems like it was done professionally by female solders. I'm not sure why this ranks among the other grievances, but this is an op-ed after all.\n \n ---\n \n Of all these only the military prison for kids reeks of systemic injustice. Most of your examples are criminals who were punished by Israel for their crimes, motivated by the cycle of animosity. If the IDF were issuing orders to rape and murder non-combatant civilians you might have a case for equivalency but I see no evidence here of anything that can justify intentionally targeting civilians like Hamas has. 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'www.haaretz.com/opinion/editorial/2023-09-05/ty-article-opinion/israels-humiliating-practice-of-strip-searching-palestinian-women/0000018a-61b0-daa9-a78f-efb765a30000':467 'www.savethechildren.net':58,61 'www.savethechildren.net/news/%e2%80%9ctreated-animals%e2%80%9d-palestinian-children-face-inhumane-treatment-israeli-run-prisons':57 'www.savethechildren.net/news/stripped-beaten-and-blindfolded-new-research-reveals-ongoing-violence-and-abuse-palestinian':60 'www.theguardian.com':208 'www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/05/palestinian-boy-mohammed-abu-khdeir-burned-alive':207 'www.timesofisrael.com':458 'www.timesofisrael.com/ending-censorship-idf-admits-officer-jailed-in-2017-raped-a-palestinian-woman/':457 'year':248,269,307,339" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://kbin.social/m/memes@lemmy.ml/t/537174/-/comment/2948370" +editedAt: DateTimeImmutable @1697244310 {#1639 : 2023-10-14 02:45:10.0 +02:00 } +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1697244109 {#1752 : 2023-10-14 02:41:49.0 +02:00 } +"title": 47450 } 0 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1689} ] -id: 5050 -titleTs: "'casualti':6,16 'civilian':5,15 'concern':12,18 'critic':4 'isn':13 'massacr':22 'palestin':8,20 'resist':9,21" -bodyTs: "'2004':5 'histori':6 'meme':2 'repeat':7" +cross: false +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +ranking: 1697306656 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemy.lol/post/11185015" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1697220256 {#1672 : 2023-10-13 20:04:16.0 +02:00 } +__isInitialized__: true …2 } +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1565 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1683 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1579 …} +body: """ Yes [the article I linked above](https://archive.ph/Wq1FC) discusses the revised charter. I see why you chose to share it rather than the original.\n \n Hamas' original charter of course was explicitly genocidal:\n \n > Released on August 18, 1988, the original covenant spells out clearly Hamas’s genocidal intentions. Accordingly, what happened in Israel on Saturday is completely in keeping with Hamas’s explicit aims and stated objectives. It was in fact the inchoate realization of Hamas’s true ambitions. \n > The most relevant of the document’s 36 articles can be summarized as falling within four main themes:\n > \n > 1. The complete destruction of Israel as an essential condition for the liberation of Palestine and the establishment of a theocratic state based on Islamic law (Sharia),\n > 2. The need for both unrestrained and unceasing holy war (jihad) to attain the above objective,\n > 3. The deliberate disdain for, and dismissal of, any negotiated resolution or political settlement of Jewish and Muslim claims to the Holy Land, and\n > 4. The reinforcement of historical anti-Semitic tropes and calumnies married to sinister conspiracy theories. ...\n \n > After some general explanatory language about Hamas’s religious foundation and noble intentions, the covenant comes to the Islamic Resistance Movement’s raison d’être: the slaughter of Jews. “The Day of Judgement will not come about,” it proclaims, “until Moslems fight the Jews (killing the Jews), when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Moslems, O Abdulla, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him.”\n \n Regarding the new one, the one you linked:\n \n > **A Kinder, Gentler Charter?** \n > On May 1, 2017, Hamas issued a revised charter. Gone were the “vague religious rhetoric and outlandish utopian pronouncements” of the earlier document, according to analysis prepared for the Institute of Palestine Studies. Instead, the new charter was redolent of “straightforward and mostly pragmatic political language” that had “shifted the movement’s positions and policies further toward the spheres of pragmatism and nationalism as opposed to dogma and Islamism.” Nonetheless, the analyst was struck by “the movement’s adherence to its founding principles” alongside newly crafted, “carefully worded” language suggesting moderation and flexibility. \n > Israel immediately dismissed the group’s effort to promote a kinder, gentler image of its once avowedly bloodthirsty agenda. “Hamas is attempting to fool the world, but it will not succeed,” a spokesperson from Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s office predicted. \n > In fact, the new document differs little from its predecessor. Much like the original, the new document asserts Hamas’s long-standing goal of establishing a sovereign, Islamist Palestinian state that extends, according to Article 2, from the Jordan River to the Mediterranean Sea and from the Lebanese border to the Israeli city of Eilat—in other words, through the entirety of Israel, the West Bank, and Gaza. And it is similarly unequivocal about “the right of return” of all Palestinian refugees displaced as a result of the 1948 and 1967 wars (Article 12)—which is portrayed as “a natural right, both individual and collective,” divinely ordained and “inalienable.” That right, therefore “cannot be dispensed with by any party, whether Palestinian, Arab or international,” thus again rendering negotiations or efforts to achieve any kind of political settlement between Israel and the Palestinians irrelevant, void, or both. Article 27 forcefully reinforces this point: “There is no alternative to a fully sovereign Palestinian State on the entire national Palestinian soil, with Jerusalem as its capital.” \n > The most striking departure from the 1988 charter is that the 2017 statement of principles and objectives now claims that Hamas is not anti-Jewish but anti-Zionist and, accordingly, sees “Zionists” and not “Jews” as the preeminent enemy and target of its opprobrium. The revised document therefore modulates the blatantly anti-Semitic rhetoric of its predecessor but once again decries Zionism as central to a dark, conspiratorial plot of global dimensions. \n > For centuries, Jews have been blamed for causing the anti-Semitism directed against them. The new Hamas charter perpetuates this libel, arguing, “It is the Zionists who constantly identify Judaism and the Jews with their own colonial project and illegal entity” and who are therefore responsible for the conflation of anti-Zionism and anti-Semitism.\n \n It seems like Hamas revised some of the more objectionable language in the original, but they are still Hamas, and their intentions are quite clear both by word and deed. 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| settings_row_switch | App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent | 12.0 MiB | 0.17 ms | |
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| Input props | [ "label" => "Show users’ avatars" "settingsKey" => "KBIN_POSTS_SHOW_USERS_AVATARS" "defaultValue" => true ] |
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| Attributes | [] |
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| Component | App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#6420 +label: "Show users’ avatars" +help: "" +settingsKey: "KBIN_POSTS_SHOW_USERS_AVATARS" +defaultValue: true +reloadRequired: true } |
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| settings_row_enum | App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowEnumComponent | 12.0 MiB | 0.22 ms | |
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| Input props | [ "label" => "Comment reply position" "help" => "Display the comment reply form either at the top or bottom of the page. When 'infinite scroll' is enabled the position will always appear at the top." "settingsKey" => "KBIN_COMMENTS_REPLY_POSITION" "values" => [ [ "name" => "top" "value" => "TOP" ] [ "name" => "bottom" "value" => "BOTTOM" ] ] "defaultValue" => "TOP" ] |
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| Attributes | [] |
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| Component | App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowEnumComponent {#6476 +label: "Comment reply position" +help: "Display the comment reply form either at the top or bottom of the page. When 'infinite scroll' is enabled the position will always appear at the top." +settingsKey: "KBIN_COMMENTS_REPLY_POSITION" +values: [ [ "name" => "top" "value" => "TOP" ] [ "name" => "bottom" "value" => "BOTTOM" ] ] +defaultValue: "TOP" +reloadRequired: true } |
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| settings_row_switch | App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent | 12.0 MiB | 0.16 ms | |
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| Input props | [ "label" => "Show Comment Avatars" "help" => "Display/hide user avatars when viewing comments on a single thread or post." "settingsKey" => "KBIN_COMMENTS_SHOW_USER_AVATAR" "defaultValue" => true ] |
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| Attributes | [] |
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| Component | App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#6534 +label: "Show Comment Avatars" +help: "Display/hide user avatars when viewing comments on a single thread or post." +settingsKey: "KBIN_COMMENTS_SHOW_USER_AVATAR" +defaultValue: true +reloadRequired: true } |
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| date | App\Twig\Components\DateComponent | 12.0 MiB | 0.15 ms | |
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| Input props | [ "date" => DateTimeImmutable @1687391708 {#272 : 2023-06-22 01:55:08.0 +02:00 } ] |
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| Attributes | [] |
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| Component | App\Twig\Components\DateComponent {#6607 +date: DateTimeImmutable @1687391708 {#272 : 2023-06-22 01:55:08.0 +02:00 } } |
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| related_magazines | App\Twig\Components\RelatedMagazinesComponent | 12.0 MiB | 2.95 ms | |
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| Input props | [ "magazine" => null "tag" => null ] |
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| Attributes | [] |
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| Component | App\Twig\Components\RelatedMagazinesComponent {#6694 +limit: 4 +tag: null +magazine: null +type: "random" +title: "random_magazines" +refreshedRandom: false -repository: App\Repository\MagazineRepository {#2166 …} -cache: Symfony\Component\Cache\Adapter\TraceableTagAwareAdapter {#600 …} -twig: Twig\Environment {#1252 …} -requestStack: Symfony\Component\HttpFoundation\RequestStack {#1328 …} } |
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| active_users | App\Twig\Components\ActiveUsersComponent | 12.0 MiB | 0.24 ms | |
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| Input props | [ "magazine" => null ] |
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| Attributes | [] |
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| Component | App\Twig\Components\ActiveUsersComponent {#6759 +magazine: null -userRepository: App\Repository\UserRepository {#603 …} -cache: Symfony\Component\Cache\Adapter\TraceableTagAwareAdapter {#600 …} -twig: Twig\Environment {#1252 …} -requestStack: Symfony\Component\HttpFoundation\RequestStack {#1328 …} } |
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| related_categories | App\Twig\Components\RelatedCategoriesComponent | 12.0 MiB | 1.28 ms | |
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| Input props | [ "magazine" => null "tag" => null ] |
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| Attributes | [] |
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| Component | App\Twig\Components\RelatedCategoriesComponent {#6818 +limit: 4 +tag: null +magazine: null +type: "random" +title: "random_categories" +refreshedRandom: false -repository: App\Repository\CategoryRepository {#6819 …} -cache: Symfony\Component\Cache\Adapter\TraceableTagAwareAdapter {#600 …} -twig: Twig\Environment {#1252 …} -requestStack: Symfony\Component\HttpFoundation\RequestStack {#1328 …} } |
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| related_posts | App\Twig\Components\RelatedPostsComponent | 12.0 MiB | 1.34 ms | |
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| Input props | [ "magazine" => null "tag" => null ] |
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| Attributes | [] |
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| Component | App\Twig\Components\RelatedPostsComponent {#6888 +limit: 4 +tag: null +magazine: null +type: "random" +post: null +title: "random_posts" +refreshedRandom: false -repository: App\Repository\PostRepository {#1446 …} -cache: Symfony\Component\Cache\Adapter\TraceableTagAwareAdapter {#600 …} -twig: Twig\Environment {#1252 …} -requestStack: Symfony\Component\HttpFoundation\RequestStack {#1328 …} -mentionManager: App\Service\MentionManager {#1713 …} } |
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| related_entries | App\Twig\Components\RelatedEntriesComponent | 12.0 MiB | 3.35 ms | |
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| Input props | [ "magazine" => null "tag" => null ] |
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| Attributes | [] |
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| Component | App\Twig\Components\RelatedEntriesComponent {#6957 +limit: 4 +tag: null +magazine: null +type: "random" +entry: null +title: "random_entries" +refreshedRandom: false -repository: App\Repository\EntryRepository {#1444 …} -cache: Symfony\Component\Cache\Adapter\TraceableTagAwareAdapter {#600 …} -twig: Twig\Environment {#1252 …} -requestStack: Symfony\Component\HttpFoundation\RequestStack {#1328 …} -mentionManager: App\Service\MentionManager {#1713 …} } |
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| support_us_block | App\Twig\Components\SupportUsBlock | 12.0 MiB | 1.25 ms | |
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| Input props | [] |
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| Attributes | [] |
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| Component | App\Twig\Components\SupportUsBlock {#7026 +subject: ? App\Entity\Contracts\VotableInterface +url: ? string -twig: Twig\Environment {#1252 …} -cache: Symfony\Component\Cache\Adapter\TraceableTagAwareAdapter {#600 …} -requestStack: Symfony\Component\HttpFoundation\RequestStack {#1328 …} -partnerBlockRepository: App\Repository\PartnerBlockRepository {#7027 …} } |
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| featured_magazines | App\Twig\Components\FeaturedMagazinesComponent | 12.0 MiB | 0.85 ms | |
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| Input props | [ "magazine" => null ] |
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| Attributes | [] |
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| Component | App\Twig\Components\FeaturedMagazinesComponent {#7119 +magazine: null -twig: Twig\Environment {#1252 …} -repository: App\Repository\MagazineRepository {#2166 …} } |
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