Symfony Profiler

Security

Token

There is no security token.

Firewall

main Name

Security enabled

Stateless

Configuration

Key	Value
provider	security.user.provider.concrete.app_user_provider
context	main
entry_point	App\Security\KbinAuthenticator
user_checker	App\Security\UserChecker
access_denied_handler	(none)
access_denied_url	(none)
authenticators	[`"two_factor" "remember_me" "App\Security\KbinAuthenticator" "App\Security\FacebookAuthenticator" "App\Security\GoogleAuthenticator" "App\Security\GithubAuthenticator" "App\Security\KeycloakAuthenticator"`]

Listeners

Listener	Duration	Response
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\ChannelListener {#723`-map: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\AccessMap {#722 …} -logger: Monolog\Logger {#783 …} -httpPort: 80 -httpsPort: 443`}	0.00 ms	(none)
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\ContextListener {#706-tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\TokenStorage {#1017 …} -sessionKey: "_security_main" -logger: Monolog\Logger {#783 …} -userProviders: Symfony\Component\DependencyInjection\Argument\RewindableGenerator {#705 …} -dispatcher: Symfony\Component\EventDispatcher\Debug\TraceableEventDispatcher {#747 …} -registered: false -trustResolver: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authentication\AuthenticationTrustResolver {#780 …} -sessionTrackerEnabler: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage::enableUsageTracking(): void {#703 …}}	0.79 ms	(none)
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\AuthenticatorManagerListener {#584`-authenticatorManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Authentication\AuthenticatorManager {#595 …}`}	0.00 ms	(none)
Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Http\Firewall\TwoFactorAccessListener {#582`-twoFactorFirewallConfig: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\TwoFactor\TwoFactorFirewallConfig {#842 …} -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …} -twoFactorAccessDecider: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\TwoFactorAccessDecider {#581 …}`}	0.03 ms	(none)
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\AccessListener {#579`-tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …} -accessDecisionManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\TraceableAccessDecisionManager {#937 …} -map: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\AccessMap {#722 …}`}	0.00 ms	(none)
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\LogoutListener {#786`-tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …} -options: [ "csrf_parameter" => "_csrf_token" "csrf_token_id" => "logout" "logout_path" => "app_logout" ] -httpUtils: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\HttpUtils {#841 …} -csrfTokenManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Csrf\CsrfTokenManager {#1015 …} -eventDispatcher: Symfony\Component\EventDispatcher\Debug\TraceableEventDispatcher {#747 …}`}	0.00 ms	(none)

Authenticators

No authenticators have been recorded. Check previous profiles on your authentication endpoint.

Access Decision

affirmative Strategy


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"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\ExpressionVoter"
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
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3	"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
4	"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\ExpressionVoter"
5	"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
6	"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
7	"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
8	"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
9	"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
10	"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
11	"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
12	"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
13	"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
14	"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"

Access decision log


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      - [!opensource@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/opensource)\n
      - [!libre_culture@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_culture)\n
      - [!technology@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/technology)\n
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    > Wayland breaks global hotkeys: I present to you: Hyprland (where you can get global hotkeys). Now, it is normally not allowed by design, as a security measure\n
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    As it happens, KDE already supports the GlobalShortcuts portal: [invent.kde.org/plasma/…/kde.portal#L3](https://invent.kde.org/plasma/xdg-desktop-portal-kde/-/blob/master/data/kde.portal#L3)\n
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    - [gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/…/47](https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/xdg-desktop-portal-gnome/-/issues/47)\n
    - [github.com/pop-os/xdg-desktop-portal-cosmic/…/4](https://github.com/pop-os/xdg-desktop-portal-cosmic/issues/4)\n
    - [github.com/emersion/xdg-desktop-portal-wlr/…/240](https://github.com/emersion/xdg-desktop-portal-wlr/issues/240)\n
    - [github.com/electron/electron/issues/38288](https://github.com/electron/electron/issues/38288)\n
    - [github.com/tauri-apps/tauri/issues/3578](https://github.com/tauri-apps/tauri/issues/3578)
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      - [!opensource@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/opensource)\n
      - [!libre_culture@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_culture)\n
      - [!technology@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/technology)\n
      - [!libre_hardware@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_hardware)\n
      \n
      Community icon by [Alpár-Etele Méder](https://www.iconfinder.com/pocike), licensed under [CC BY 3.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/)
      """
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    > Wayland breaks global hotkeys: I present to you: Hyprland (where you can get global hotkeys). Now, it is normally not allowed by design, as a security measure\n
    \n
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    \n
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    \n
    As it happens, KDE already supports the GlobalShortcuts portal: [invent.kde.org/plasma/…/kde.portal#L3](https://invent.kde.org/plasma/xdg-desktop-portal-kde/-/blob/master/data/kde.portal#L3)\n
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    Here are related tracking issues:\n
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    - [gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/…/47](https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/xdg-desktop-portal-gnome/-/issues/47)\n
    - [github.com/pop-os/xdg-desktop-portal-cosmic/…/4](https://github.com/pop-os/xdg-desktop-portal-cosmic/issues/4)\n
    - [github.com/emersion/xdg-desktop-portal-wlr/…/240](https://github.com/emersion/xdg-desktop-portal-wlr/issues/240)\n
    - [github.com/electron/electron/issues/38288](https://github.com/electron/electron/issues/38288)\n
    - [github.com/tauri-apps/tauri/issues/3578](https://github.com/tauri-apps/tauri/issues/3578)
    """
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    > Wayland breaks global hotkeys: I present to you: Hyprland (where you can get global hotkeys). Now, it is normally not allowed by design, as a security measure\n
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    Not disagreeing at all, but I’d like to add some information here to support your correction\n
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    As it happens, KDE already supports the GlobalShortcuts portal: [invent.kde.org/plasma/…/kde.portal#L3](https://invent.kde.org/plasma/xdg-desktop-portal-kde/-/blob/master/data/kde.portal#L3)\n
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    - [github.com/pop-os/xdg-desktop-portal-cosmic/…/4](https://github.com/pop-os/xdg-desktop-portal-cosmic/issues/4)\n
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    - [github.com/electron/electron/issues/38288](https://github.com/electron/electron/issues/38288)\n
    - [github.com/tauri-apps/tauri/issues/3578](https://github.com/tauri-apps/tauri/issues/3578)
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    Well, there are alternatives. There’s /e/ (murena.io now a days) and distroot, and you can use gnupg with others who also use gnupg, and with distroot you can use its own encryption as well. There’s tutanota and prrotonmail, which use their own encryption mechanisms but only work with the same providers and not with other providers…\n
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    Well, there are alternatives. There’s /e/ (murena.io now a days) and distroot, and you can use gnupg with others who also use gnupg, and with distroot you can use its own encryption as well. There’s tutanota and prrotonmail, which use their own encryption mechanisms but only work with the same providers and not with other providers…\n
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      Well, there are alternatives. There’s /e/ (murena.io now a days) and distroot, and you can use gnupg with others who also use gnupg, and with distroot you can use its own encryption as well. There’s tutanota and prrotonmail, which use their own encryption mechanisms but only work with the same providers and not with other providers…\n
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      Well, there are alternatives. There’s /e/ (murena.io now a days) and distroot, and you can use gnupg with others who also use gnupg, and with distroot you can use its own encryption as well. There’s tutanota and prrotonmail, which use their own encryption mechanisms but only work with the same providers and not with other providers…\n
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    I’m curious about this too.\n
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      I’m curious about this too.\n
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      I’m curious about this too.\n
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        I’m curious about this too.\n
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          I’m curious about this too.\n
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          I’m curious about this too.\n
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          I’d be ecstatic if they did something here, but I’m not really clear on what a solution would look like. On top of them spreading thin as you mentioned\n
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          *edited ‘domain’ service to ‘hosting’ service
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          I’m curious about this too.\n
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          A lot of self-hosted FOSS people draw the line at hosting their own mail servers. Even if Mozilla created a new domain hosting server for handling, the big three could still reject the traffic like they do for people hosting outside the three now, under the guise of spam filtering.\n
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          I’d be ecstatic if they did something here, but I’m not really clear on what a solution would look like. On top of them spreading thin as you mentioned\n
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          *edited ‘domain’ service to ‘hosting’ service
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              > In addition, we’re going to develop the tools that give people choices other than the big three.\n
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              This sentence at the very end makes me very curious. Is this a hint for a Thunderbird mail service or something similar?\n
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              On the one hand I would love to have a mail service offered by the Thunderbird team that would also fund Thunderbird development. On the other hand it’s probably not a good idea to split the development resources too thin.
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            I’m curious about this too.\n
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            A lot of self-hosted FOSS people draw the line at hosting their own mail servers. Even if Mozilla created a new domain hosting server for handling, the big three could still reject the traffic like they do for people hosting outside the three now, under the guise of spam filtering.\n
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            I’d be ecstatic if they did something here, but I’m not really clear on what a solution would look like. On top of them spreading thin as you mentioned\n
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            *edited ‘domain’ service to ‘hosting’ service
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              > In addition, we’re going to develop the tools that give people choices other than the big three.\n
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              This sentence at the very end makes me very curious. Is this a hint for a Thunderbird mail service or something similar?\n
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            I’m curious about this too.\n
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            A lot of self-hosted FOSS people draw the line at hosting their own mail servers. Even if Mozilla created a new domain hosting server for handling, the big three could still reject the traffic like they do for people hosting outside the three now, under the guise of spam filtering.\n
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            I’d be ecstatic if they did something here, but I’m not really clear on what a solution would look like. On top of them spreading thin as you mentioned\n
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            *edited ‘domain’ service to ‘hosting’ service
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              > In addition, we’re going to develop the tools that give people choices other than the big three.\n
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            I’m curious about this too.\n
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            A lot of self-hosted FOSS people draw the line at hosting their own mail servers. Even if Mozilla created a new domain hosting server for handling, the big three could still reject the traffic like they do for people hosting outside the three now, under the guise of spam filtering.\n
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            I’d be ecstatic if they did something here, but I’m not really clear on what a solution would look like. On top of them spreading thin as you mentioned\n
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            > In addition, we’re going to develop the tools that give people choices other than the big three.\n
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            This sentence at the very end makes me very curious. Is this a hint for a Thunderbird mail service or something similar?\n
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            On the one hand I would love to have a mail service offered by the Thunderbird team that would also fund Thunderbird development. On the other hand it’s probably not a good idea to split the development resources too thin.
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          I’m curious about this too.\n
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          A lot of self-hosted FOSS people draw the line at hosting their own mail servers. Even if Mozilla created a new domain hosting server for handling, the big three could still reject the traffic like they do for people hosting outside the three now, under the guise of spam filtering.\n
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          I’d be ecstatic if they did something here, but I’m not really clear on what a solution would look like. On top of them spreading thin as you mentioned\n
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          *edited ‘domain’ service to ‘hosting’ service
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    I use Mailcow and it works well. Easy to configure, and it uses Docker so it’s self-contained and very easy to move to a new server if you ever need to do that.\n
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    I’m using an SMTP relay for outbound emails, though. I didn’t want to have to deal with IP reputation issues, especially with Microsoft/Hotmail. I’m hosting my server on a VPS, and spammers in the same subnet can result in the entire subnet getting blocklisted. Configuring a relay is easy in Mailcow’s UI, and can be configured per domain.
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            > In addition, we’re going to develop the tools that give people choices other than the big three.\n
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            This sentence at the very end makes me very curious. Is this a hint for a Thunderbird mail service or something similar?\n
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          I’m curious about this too.\n
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          A lot of self-hosted FOSS people draw the line at hosting their own mail servers. Even if Mozilla created a new domain hosting server for handling, the big three could still reject the traffic like they do for people hosting outside the three now, under the guise of spam filtering.\n
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          I’d be ecstatic if they did something here, but I’m not really clear on what a solution would look like. On top of them spreading thin as you mentioned\n
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          *edited ‘domain’ service to ‘hosting’ service
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    I use Mailcow and it works well. Easy to configure, and it uses Docker so it’s self-contained and very easy to move to a new server if you ever need to do that.\n
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    I’m using an SMTP relay for outbound emails, though. I didn’t want to have to deal with IP reputation issues, especially with Microsoft/Hotmail. I’m hosting my server on a VPS, and spammers in the same subnet can result in the entire subnet getting blocklisted. Configuring a relay is easy in Mailcow’s UI, and can be configured per domain.
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            > In addition, we’re going to develop the tools that give people choices other than the big three.\n
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            This sentence at the very end makes me very curious. Is this a hint for a Thunderbird mail service or something similar?\n
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          I’m curious about this too.\n
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          A lot of self-hosted FOSS people draw the line at hosting their own mail servers. Even if Mozilla created a new domain hosting server for handling, the big three could still reject the traffic like they do for people hosting outside the three now, under the guise of spam filtering.\n
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          I’d be ecstatic if they did something here, but I’m not really clear on what a solution would look like. On top of them spreading thin as you mentioned\n
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          *edited ‘domain’ service to ‘hosting’ service
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    I use Mailcow and it works well. Easy to configure, and it uses Docker so it’s self-contained and very easy to move to a new server if you ever need to do that.\n
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    I’m using an SMTP relay for outbound emails, though. I didn’t want to have to deal with IP reputation issues, especially with Microsoft/Hotmail. I’m hosting my server on a VPS, and spammers in the same subnet can result in the entire subnet getting blocklisted. Configuring a relay is easy in Mailcow’s UI, and can be configured per domain.
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        I’m curious about this too.\n
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        A lot of self-hosted FOSS people draw the line at hosting their own mail servers. Even if Mozilla created a new domain hosting server for handling, the big three could still reject the traffic like they do for people hosting outside the three now, under the guise of spam filtering.\n
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        I’d be ecstatic if they did something here, but I’m not really clear on what a solution would look like. On top of them spreading thin as you mentioned\n
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        *edited ‘domain’ service to ‘hosting’ service
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    I edited the comment, I really meant hosting server, not domain.\n
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    Having a custom domain isn’t a big deal, it’s really where that domain is hosted that creates forwarding issues. Since the majority of email is handled by the ‘big three’, anything that’s hosted outside of that is often flagged as spam or is refused to be delivered. That’s allegedly because there are malicious senders also hosted on third party servers (and fair enough, there likely are), but this causes a bit of a potential monopoly that could easily be abused, and there’s obvious motivation to push people into a particular service for data collection.\n
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    Even if it doesn’t happen often, occasional failures can be a huge problem if you’re sending critical communication and it isn’t reaching target inboxes because of filtering. It’s enough of a headache that even most avid self-hosters tend to avoid it.
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        I’m curious about this too.\n
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        I’d be ecstatic if they did something here, but I’m not really clear on what a solution would look like. On top of them spreading thin as you mentioned\n
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    I edited the comment, I really meant hosting server, not domain.\n
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    Having a custom domain isn’t a big deal, it’s really where that domain is hosted that creates forwarding issues. Since the majority of email is handled by the ‘big three’, anything that’s hosted outside of that is often flagged as spam or is refused to be delivered. That’s allegedly because there are malicious senders also hosted on third party servers (and fair enough, there likely are), but this causes a bit of a potential monopoly that could easily be abused, and there’s obvious motivation to push people into a particular service for data collection.\n
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          > In addition, we’re going to develop the tools that give people choices other than the big three.\n
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        I’m curious about this too.\n
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        A lot of self-hosted FOSS people draw the line at hosting their own mail servers. Even if Mozilla created a new domain hosting server for handling, the big three could still reject the traffic like they do for people hosting outside the three now, under the guise of spam filtering.\n
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        I’d be ecstatic if they did something here, but I’m not really clear on what a solution would look like. On top of them spreading thin as you mentioned\n
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        *edited ‘domain’ service to ‘hosting’ service
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    I edited the comment, I really meant hosting server, not domain.\n
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    Having a custom domain isn’t a big deal, it’s really where that domain is hosted that creates forwarding issues. Since the majority of email is handled by the ‘big three’, anything that’s hosted outside of that is often flagged as spam or is refused to be delivered. That’s allegedly because there are malicious senders also hosted on third party servers (and fair enough, there likely are), but this causes a bit of a potential monopoly that could easily be abused, and there’s obvious motivation to push people into a particular service for data collection.\n
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            > In addition, we’re going to develop the tools that give people choices other than the big three.\n
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            This sentence at the very end makes me very curious. Is this a hint for a Thunderbird mail service or something similar?\n
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          I’m curious about this too.\n
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          A lot of self-hosted FOSS people draw the line at hosting their own mail servers. Even if Mozilla created a new domain hosting server for handling, the big three could still reject the traffic like they do for people hosting outside the three now, under the guise of spam filtering.\n
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          I’d be ecstatic if they did something here, but I’m not really clear on what a solution would look like. On top of them spreading thin as you mentioned\n
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          *edited ‘domain’ service to ‘hosting’ service
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      I edited the comment, I really meant hosting server, not domain.\n
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      Having a custom domain isn’t a big deal, it’s really where that domain is hosted that creates forwarding issues. Since the majority of email is handled by the ‘big three’, anything that’s hosted outside of that is often flagged as spam or is refused to be delivered. That’s allegedly because there are malicious senders also hosted on third party servers (and fair enough, there likely are), but this causes a bit of a potential monopoly that could easily be abused, and there’s obvious motivation to push people into a particular service for data collection.\n
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      Even if it doesn’t happen often, occasional failures can be a huge problem if you’re sending critical communication and it isn’t reaching target inboxes because of filtering. It’s enough of a headache that even most avid self-hosters tend to avoid it.
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            > In addition, we’re going to develop the tools that give people choices other than the big three.\n
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            This sentence at the very end makes me very curious. Is this a hint for a Thunderbird mail service or something similar?\n
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            On the one hand I would love to have a mail service offered by the Thunderbird team that would also fund Thunderbird development. On the other hand it’s probably not a good idea to split the development resources too thin.
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          I’m curious about this too.\n
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          A lot of self-hosted FOSS people draw the line at hosting their own mail servers. Even if Mozilla created a new domain hosting server for handling, the big three could still reject the traffic like they do for people hosting outside the three now, under the guise of spam filtering.\n
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          I’d be ecstatic if they did something here, but I’m not really clear on what a solution would look like. On top of them spreading thin as you mentioned\n
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          *edited ‘domain’ service to ‘hosting’ service
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      I edited the comment, I really meant hosting server, not domain.\n
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      Having a custom domain isn’t a big deal, it’s really where that domain is hosted that creates forwarding issues. Since the majority of email is handled by the ‘big three’, anything that’s hosted outside of that is often flagged as spam or is refused to be delivered. That’s allegedly because there are malicious senders also hosted on third party servers (and fair enough, there likely are), but this causes a bit of a potential monopoly that could easily be abused, and there’s obvious motivation to push people into a particular service for data collection.\n
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      Even if it doesn’t happen often, occasional failures can be a huge problem if you’re sending critical communication and it isn’t reaching target inboxes because of filtering. It’s enough of a headache that even most avid self-hosters tend to avoid it.
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            > In addition, we’re going to develop the tools that give people choices other than the big three.\n
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            This sentence at the very end makes me very curious. Is this a hint for a Thunderbird mail service or something similar?\n
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          I’m curious about this too.\n
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          A lot of self-hosted FOSS people draw the line at hosting their own mail servers. Even if Mozilla created a new domain hosting server for handling, the big three could still reject the traffic like they do for people hosting outside the three now, under the guise of spam filtering.\n
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          I’d be ecstatic if they did something here, but I’m not really clear on what a solution would look like. On top of them spreading thin as you mentioned\n
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          *edited ‘domain’ service to ‘hosting’ service
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      I edited the comment, I really meant hosting server, not domain.\n
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              This sentence at the very end makes me very curious. Is this a hint for a Thunderbird mail service or something similar?\n
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              On the one hand I would love to have a mail service offered by the Thunderbird team that would also fund Thunderbird development. On the other hand it’s probably not a good idea to split the development resources too thin.
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            I’m curious about this too.\n
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            A lot of self-hosted FOSS people draw the line at hosting their own mail servers. Even if Mozilla created a new domain hosting server for handling, the big three could still reject the traffic like they do for people hosting outside the three now, under the guise of spam filtering.\n
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            I’d be ecstatic if they did something here, but I’m not really clear on what a solution would look like. On top of them spreading thin as you mentioned\n
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            *edited ‘domain’ service to ‘hosting’ service
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        +body: "I have my own domain (even if hosted on a relatively small provider) and I don’t have that much of an issue tbh?"
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        I edited the comment, I really meant hosting server, not domain.\n
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        Having a custom domain isn’t a big deal, it’s really where that domain is hosted that creates forwarding issues. Since the majority of email is handled by the ‘big three’, anything that’s hosted outside of that is often flagged as spam or is refused to be delivered. That’s allegedly because there are malicious senders also hosted on third party servers (and fair enough, there likely are), but this causes a bit of a potential monopoly that could easily be abused, and there’s obvious motivation to push people into a particular service for data collection.\n
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        Even if it doesn’t happen often, occasional failures can be a huge problem if you’re sending critical communication and it isn’t reaching target inboxes because of filtering. It’s enough of a headache that even most avid self-hosters tend to avoid it.
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    My understanding is that it’s a combination of correctly deploying authentication (DMARC, DKIM, and SPF) and the actual IP address of the server that can get you into trouble. If you incorrectly set up authentication, OR if a malicious sender spoofs you (likely because you didn’t set up auth correctly), it can get your IP blocklisted. And unless you’re monitoring if you’re blocklisted, you often don’t know that things aren’t getting delivered until someone tells you.\n
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    And then you’re still kind of at the whim of the big players, because they could change or update their authentication standards, and if you’re not on top of it you can find yourself in the same boat, even if you’re doing everything else right.\n
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    It’s not impossible, it’s just a headache. But if i’m being honest, i’m a bit of a novice so it could be easier to a more trained network administrator.
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              > In addition, we’re going to develop the tools that give people choices other than the big three.\n
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              This sentence at the very end makes me very curious. Is this a hint for a Thunderbird mail service or something similar?\n
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              On the one hand I would love to have a mail service offered by the Thunderbird team that would also fund Thunderbird development. On the other hand it’s probably not a good idea to split the development resources too thin.
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            I’m curious about this too.\n
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            A lot of self-hosted FOSS people draw the line at hosting their own mail servers. Even if Mozilla created a new domain hosting server for handling, the big three could still reject the traffic like they do for people hosting outside the three now, under the guise of spam filtering.\n
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            I’d be ecstatic if they did something here, but I’m not really clear on what a solution would look like. On top of them spreading thin as you mentioned\n
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            *edited ‘domain’ service to ‘hosting’ service
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        I edited the comment, I really meant hosting server, not domain.\n
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        Having a custom domain isn’t a big deal, it’s really where that domain is hosted that creates forwarding issues. Since the majority of email is handled by the ‘big three’, anything that’s hosted outside of that is often flagged as spam or is refused to be delivered. That’s allegedly because there are malicious senders also hosted on third party servers (and fair enough, there likely are), but this causes a bit of a potential monopoly that could easily be abused, and there’s obvious motivation to push people into a particular service for data collection.\n
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        Even if it doesn’t happen often, occasional failures can be a huge problem if you’re sending critical communication and it isn’t reaching target inboxes because of filtering. It’s enough of a headache that even most avid self-hosters tend to avoid it.
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    My understanding is that it’s a combination of correctly deploying authentication (DMARC, DKIM, and SPF) and the actual IP address of the server that can get you into trouble. If you incorrectly set up authentication, OR if a malicious sender spoofs you (likely because you didn’t set up auth correctly), it can get your IP blocklisted. And unless you’re monitoring if you’re blocklisted, you often don’t know that things aren’t getting delivered until someone tells you.\n
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    And then you’re still kind of at the whim of the big players, because they could change or update their authentication standards, and if you’re not on top of it you can find yourself in the same boat, even if you’re doing everything else right.\n
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    It’s not impossible, it’s just a headache. But if i’m being honest, i’m a bit of a novice so it could be easier to a more trained network administrator.
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              > In addition, we’re going to develop the tools that give people choices other than the big three.\n
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              This sentence at the very end makes me very curious. Is this a hint for a Thunderbird mail service or something similar?\n
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              On the one hand I would love to have a mail service offered by the Thunderbird team that would also fund Thunderbird development. On the other hand it’s probably not a good idea to split the development resources too thin.
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            I’m curious about this too.\n
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            A lot of self-hosted FOSS people draw the line at hosting their own mail servers. Even if Mozilla created a new domain hosting server for handling, the big three could still reject the traffic like they do for people hosting outside the three now, under the guise of spam filtering.\n
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            I’d be ecstatic if they did something here, but I’m not really clear on what a solution would look like. On top of them spreading thin as you mentioned\n
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            *edited ‘domain’ service to ‘hosting’ service
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        I edited the comment, I really meant hosting server, not domain.\n
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        Having a custom domain isn’t a big deal, it’s really where that domain is hosted that creates forwarding issues. Since the majority of email is handled by the ‘big three’, anything that’s hosted outside of that is often flagged as spam or is refused to be delivered. That’s allegedly because there are malicious senders also hosted on third party servers (and fair enough, there likely are), but this causes a bit of a potential monopoly that could easily be abused, and there’s obvious motivation to push people into a particular service for data collection.\n
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        Even if it doesn’t happen often, occasional failures can be a huge problem if you’re sending critical communication and it isn’t reaching target inboxes because of filtering. It’s enough of a headache that even most avid self-hosters tend to avoid it.
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    My understanding is that it’s a combination of correctly deploying authentication (DMARC, DKIM, and SPF) and the actual IP address of the server that can get you into trouble. If you incorrectly set up authentication, OR if a malicious sender spoofs you (likely because you didn’t set up auth correctly), it can get your IP blocklisted. And unless you’re monitoring if you’re blocklisted, you often don’t know that things aren’t getting delivered until someone tells you.\n
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    And then you’re still kind of at the whim of the big players, because they could change or update their authentication standards, and if you’re not on top of it you can find yourself in the same boat, even if you’re doing everything else right.\n
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    It’s not impossible, it’s just a headache. But if i’m being honest, i’m a bit of a novice so it could be easier to a more trained network administrator.
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    Well technically, if you’re using BTRFS, you might want to check out subvolumes. Here’s my subvolume setup:\n
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      Well technically, if you’re using BTRFS, you might want to check out subvolumes. Here’s my subvolume setup:\n
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      Well technically, if you’re using BTRFS, you might want to check out subvolumes. Here’s my subvolume setup:\n
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    Can’t say I have. Haven’t used hibernation mode for years even. Sleep mode is just too good nowadays for me to use it, so I guess we could chalk that up to a fault of the setup.\n
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    Can’t say I have. Haven’t used hibernation mode for years even. Sleep mode is just too good nowadays for me to use it, so I guess we could chalk that up to a fault of the setup.\n
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      - [!libre_culture@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_culture)\n
      - [!technology@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/technology)\n
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      Community icon by [Alpár-Etele Méder](https://www.iconfinder.com/pocike), licensed under [CC BY 3.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/)
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    Can’t say I have. Haven’t used hibernation mode for years even. Sleep mode is just too good nowadays for me to use it, so I guess we could chalk that up to a fault of the setup.\n
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      - [!technology@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/technology)\n
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      Community icon by [Alpár-Etele Méder](https://www.iconfinder.com/pocike), licensed under [CC BY 3.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/)
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      - Subvolume 3, named `@srv` (/srv subvol)\n
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      Well technically, if you’re using BTRFS, you might want to check out subvolumes. Here’s my subvolume setup:\n
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      - Subvolume 5, named `@swap` (which is - you guessed it - the swap subvol)\n
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      The great thing about subvolumes is that it doesn’t do any size provisioning, unless specified by the user. All subvolumes share the space available within the partition. This means you won’t have to do any soul searching when setting up the partitions regarding use of space.\n
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      \n
      The only extra partitions I have is the EFI partition and an EXT4 partition for the `/boot` folder since I use LUKS2.
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        Well technically, if you’re using BTRFS, you might want to check out subvolumes. Here’s my subvolume setup:\n
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        The only extra partitions I have is the EFI partition and an EXT4 partition for the `/boot` folder since I use LUKS2.
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    In tools like `lsblk`? Nope. They appear as directories, usually in the top-level subvolume, which typically isn’t mounted anywhere in the system.\n
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    Then you just create mount entries in `/etc/fstab` just like you would with partitions, this time just using the `subvol=` option as mentioned above. I don’t know if there are any installers that do this for you. Archwiki – as usual – has good documentation on this.
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      - [!technology@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/technology)\n
      - [!libre_hardware@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_hardware)\n
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      Community icon by [Alpár-Etele Méder](https://www.iconfinder.com/pocike), licensed under [CC BY 3.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/)
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      - [!libre_culture@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_culture)\n
      - [!technology@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/technology)\n
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      Community icon by [Alpár-Etele Méder](https://www.iconfinder.com/pocike), licensed under [CC BY 3.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/)
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          The only extra partitions I have is the EFI partition and an EXT4 partition for the `/boot` folder since I use LUKS2.
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      In tools like `lsblk`? Nope. They appear as directories, usually in the top-level subvolume, which typically isn’t mounted anywhere in the system.\n
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      Community icon by [Alpár-Etele Méder](https://www.iconfinder.com/pocike), licensed under [CC BY 3.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/)
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          Well technically, if you’re using BTRFS, you might want to check out subvolumes. Here’s my subvolume setup:\n
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      In tools like `lsblk`? Nope. They appear as directories, usually in the top-level subvolume, which typically isn’t mounted anywhere in the system.\n
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          Well technically, if you’re using BTRFS, you might want to check out subvolumes. Here’s my subvolume setup:\n
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      In tools like `lsblk`? Nope. They appear as directories, usually in the top-level subvolume, which typically isn’t mounted anywhere in the system.\n
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      Then you just create mount entries in `/etc/fstab` just like you would with partitions, this time just using the `subvol=` option as mentioned above. I don’t know if there are any installers that do this for you. Archwiki – as usual – has good documentation on this.
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        I was thinking similar, though I'm also still on X with nVidia and XFCE and am in a weird way* with programming.\n
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        I was thinking similar, though I'm also still on X with nVidia and XFCE and am in a weird way* with programming.\n
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    Nim-lang. [some code that I actually wrote using Raylib bindings (Naylib)](https://media.kbin.social/media/77/32/7732833e1cd4f944e4e941febdcf9f56579f78499b300c430c37c8ea241be408.png) (+[what it's loading](https://media.kbin.social/media/88/53/885303dd92d06ef6ffa64a1fe64e2c749525059155c9516cdffac06a94c7602c.png))\n
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