Security

Token

There is no security token.

Firewall

main Name
Security enabled
Stateless

Configuration

Key Value
provider security.user.provider.concrete.app_user_provider
context main
entry_point App\Security\KbinAuthenticator
user_checker App\Security\UserChecker
access_denied_handler (none)
access_denied_url (none)
authenticators
[
  "two_factor"
  "remember_me"
  "App\Security\KbinAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\FacebookAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\GoogleAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\GithubAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\KeycloakAuthenticator"
]

Listeners

Listener Duration Response
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\ChannelListener {#723
  -map: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\AccessMap {#722 …}
  -logger: Monolog\Logger {#783 …}
  -httpPort: 80
  -httpsPort: 443
}
0.00 ms (none)
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\ContextListener {#706
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\TokenStorage {#1017 …}
  -sessionKey: "_security_main"
  -logger: Monolog\Logger {#783 …}
  -userProviders: Symfony\Component\DependencyInjection\Argument\RewindableGenerator {#705 …}
  -dispatcher: Symfony\Component\EventDispatcher\Debug\TraceableEventDispatcher {#747 …}
  -registered: false
  -trustResolver: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authentication\AuthenticationTrustResolver {#780 …}
  -sessionTrackerEnabler: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage::enableUsageTracking(): void {#703 …}
}
0.13 ms (none)
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\AuthenticatorManagerListener {#584
  -authenticatorManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Authentication\AuthenticatorManager {#595 …}
}
0.00 ms (none)
Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Http\Firewall\TwoFactorAccessListener {#582
  -twoFactorFirewallConfig: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\TwoFactor\TwoFactorFirewallConfig {#842 …}
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -twoFactorAccessDecider: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\TwoFactorAccessDecider {#581 …}
}
0.05 ms (none)
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\AccessListener {#579
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -accessDecisionManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\TraceableAccessDecisionManager {#937 …}
  -map: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\AccessMap {#722 …}
}
0.00 ms (none)
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\LogoutListener {#786
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -options: [
    "csrf_parameter" => "_csrf_token"
    "csrf_token_id" => "logout"
    "logout_path" => "app_logout"
  ]
  -httpUtils: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\HttpUtils {#841 …}
  -csrfTokenManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Csrf\CsrfTokenManager {#1015 …}
  -eventDispatcher: Symfony\Component\EventDispatcher\Debug\TraceableEventDispatcher {#747 …}
}
0.00 ms (none)

Authenticators

No authenticators have been recorded. Check previous profiles on your authentication endpoint.

Access Decision

affirmative Strategy
# Voter class
1
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\AuthenticatedVoter"
2
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
3
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
4
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\ExpressionVoter"
5
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
6
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
7
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
8
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
9
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
10
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
11
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
12
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
13
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
14
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"

Access decision log

# Result Attributes Object
1 DENIED ROLE_USER
null
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
ACCESS DENIED
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
2 DENIED moderate
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    +name: "privacyguides@lemmy.one"
    +title: "privacyguides"
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      *In the digital age, protecting your personal information might seem like an impossible task. We’re here to help.*\n
      \n
      This is a community for sharing news about privacy, posting information about cool privacy tools and services, and getting advice about your privacy journey.\n
      \n
      ---\n
      \n
      You can subscribe to this community from any Kbin or Lemmy instance:\n
      \n
      - [Subscribe on Kbin.social](https://kbin.social/m/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
      - [Subscribe on Lemmy.one](https://lemmy.one/c/privacyguides)\n
      - [Subscribe on Lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
      - [Subscribe on Beehaw.org](https://beehaw.org/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
      \n
      [Learn more…](https://lemmy.one/post/355)\n
      \n
      ---\n
      \n
      Check out our website at [privacyguides.org](https://www.privacyguides.org) before asking your questions here. We’ve tried answering the common questions and recommendations there!\n
      \n
      Want to get involved? The website is [open-source on GitHub](https://github.com/privacyguides/privacyguides.org), and your help would be appreciated!\n
      \n
      ---\n
      \n
      **This community is the “official” Privacy Guides community on Lemmy, which can be [verified here](https://www.reddit.com/r/PrivacyGuides/comments/13x7oe3/who_wants_to_try_out_lemmy_privacyguideslemmyone/). Other “Privacy Guides” communities on other Lemmy servers are not moderated by this team or associated with the website.**\n
      \n
      ---\n
      \n
      **Moderation Rules:**\n
      \n
      1. We prefer posting about open-source software whenever possible.\n
      2. This is not the place for self-promotion if you are not listed on privacyguides.org. If you want to be listed, [make a suggestion on our forum first](https://discuss.privacyguides.net/c/site-development/suggestions/6).\n
      3. No soliciting engagement: Don’t ask for upvotes, follows, etc.\n
      4. Surveys, Fundraising, and Petitions must be **pre**-approved by the mod team.\n
      5. Be civil, no violence, hate speech. Assume people here are posting in good faith.\n
      6. Don’t repost topics which have already been covered here.\n
      7. News posts must be related to privacy and security, and **your post title must match the article headline exactly.** Do not editorialize titles, you can post your opinions in the post body or a comment.\n
      8. Memes/images/video posts that could be summarized as text explanations should not be posted. Infographics and conference talks from reputable sources are acceptable.\n
      9. **No help vampires:** This is not a tech support subreddit, don’t abuse our community’s willingness to help. Questions related to privacy, security or privacy/security related software and their configurations are acceptable.\n
      10. No misinformation: Extraordinary claims must be matched with **evidence.**\n
      11. Do not post about VPNs or cryptocurrencies which are not listed on [privacyguides.org](https://www.privacyguides.org/en/tools/). See Rule 2 for info on adding new recommendations to the website.\n
      12. General guides or software lists are not permitted. Original sources and research about specific topics are allowed as long as they are high quality and factual. **We are not providing a platform for poorly-vetted, out-of-date or conflicting recommendations.**\n
      \n
      ---\n
      \n
      Additional Resources:\n
      \n
      - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
      - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
      - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
      - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
      - [Big Ass Data Broker Opt-Out List](https://github.com/yaelwrites/Big-Ass-Data-Broker-Opt-Out-List)
      """
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  +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#1865 …}
  +slug: "Why-Not-Store-Encrypted-Emails-in-Plaintext-Locally"
  +title: "Why Not Store Encrypted Emails in Plaintext Locally?"
  +url: null
  +body: """
    Clients like Thunderbird are great because you have everything stored locally so you can easily search offline. They also support encrypting and decrypting emails in PGP. However, they seem to have the same limitation as protonmail where you can’t search through encrypted emails.\n
    \n
    I know that protonmail can’t just store your key at their server since that would defeat the purpose, so the emails are all ciphertext to them right? But in Thunderbird, you already have the key and decrypt everything all the time. So why can’t you skip the middleman in your local machine and store everything locally in plaintext? It’s not less secure since if your local machine is compromised, your private key is also compromised.\n
    \n
    Or at the very least give us the option and have a slightly less secure but much more convenient option.
    """
  +type: "article"
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  +hasEmbed: false
  +commentCount: 19
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  +score: 0
  +isAdult: false
  +sticky: false
  +lastActive: DateTime @1700597765 {#1799
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  +adaAmount: 0
  +tags: null
  +mentions: null
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  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2480 …}
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  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1902 …}
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"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
ACCESS DENIED
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
3 DENIED edit
App\Entity\Entry {#2406
  +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#1897 …}
  +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#266
    +icon: null
    +name: "privacyguides@lemmy.one"
    +title: "privacyguides"
    +description: """
      *In the digital age, protecting your personal information might seem like an impossible task. We’re here to help.*\n
      \n
      This is a community for sharing news about privacy, posting information about cool privacy tools and services, and getting advice about your privacy journey.\n
      \n
      ---\n
      \n
      You can subscribe to this community from any Kbin or Lemmy instance:\n
      \n
      - [Subscribe on Kbin.social](https://kbin.social/m/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
      - [Subscribe on Lemmy.one](https://lemmy.one/c/privacyguides)\n
      - [Subscribe on Lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
      - [Subscribe on Beehaw.org](https://beehaw.org/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
      \n
      [Learn more…](https://lemmy.one/post/355)\n
      \n
      ---\n
      \n
      Check out our website at [privacyguides.org](https://www.privacyguides.org) before asking your questions here. We’ve tried answering the common questions and recommendations there!\n
      \n
      Want to get involved? The website is [open-source on GitHub](https://github.com/privacyguides/privacyguides.org), and your help would be appreciated!\n
      \n
      ---\n
      \n
      **This community is the “official” Privacy Guides community on Lemmy, which can be [verified here](https://www.reddit.com/r/PrivacyGuides/comments/13x7oe3/who_wants_to_try_out_lemmy_privacyguideslemmyone/). Other “Privacy Guides” communities on other Lemmy servers are not moderated by this team or associated with the website.**\n
      \n
      ---\n
      \n
      **Moderation Rules:**\n
      \n
      1. We prefer posting about open-source software whenever possible.\n
      2. This is not the place for self-promotion if you are not listed on privacyguides.org. If you want to be listed, [make a suggestion on our forum first](https://discuss.privacyguides.net/c/site-development/suggestions/6).\n
      3. No soliciting engagement: Don’t ask for upvotes, follows, etc.\n
      4. Surveys, Fundraising, and Petitions must be **pre**-approved by the mod team.\n
      5. Be civil, no violence, hate speech. Assume people here are posting in good faith.\n
      6. Don’t repost topics which have already been covered here.\n
      7. News posts must be related to privacy and security, and **your post title must match the article headline exactly.** Do not editorialize titles, you can post your opinions in the post body or a comment.\n
      8. Memes/images/video posts that could be summarized as text explanations should not be posted. Infographics and conference talks from reputable sources are acceptable.\n
      9. **No help vampires:** This is not a tech support subreddit, don’t abuse our community’s willingness to help. Questions related to privacy, security or privacy/security related software and their configurations are acceptable.\n
      10. No misinformation: Extraordinary claims must be matched with **evidence.**\n
      11. Do not post about VPNs or cryptocurrencies which are not listed on [privacyguides.org](https://www.privacyguides.org/en/tools/). See Rule 2 for info on adding new recommendations to the website.\n
      12. General guides or software lists are not permitted. Original sources and research about specific topics are allowed as long as they are high quality and factual. **We are not providing a platform for poorly-vetted, out-of-date or conflicting recommendations.**\n
      \n
      ---\n
      \n
      Additional Resources:\n
      \n
      - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
      - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
      - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
      - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
      - [Big Ass Data Broker Opt-Out List](https://github.com/yaelwrites/Big-Ass-Data-Broker-Opt-Out-List)
      """
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  +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#1865 …}
  +slug: "Why-Not-Store-Encrypted-Emails-in-Plaintext-Locally"
  +title: "Why Not Store Encrypted Emails in Plaintext Locally?"
  +url: null
  +body: """
    Clients like Thunderbird are great because you have everything stored locally so you can easily search offline. They also support encrypting and decrypting emails in PGP. However, they seem to have the same limitation as protonmail where you can’t search through encrypted emails.\n
    \n
    I know that protonmail can’t just store your key at their server since that would defeat the purpose, so the emails are all ciphertext to them right? But in Thunderbird, you already have the key and decrypt everything all the time. So why can’t you skip the middleman in your local machine and store everything locally in plaintext? It’s not less secure since if your local machine is compromised, your private key is also compromised.\n
    \n
    Or at the very least give us the option and have a slightly less secure but much more convenient option.
    """
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"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
ACCESS DENIED
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
4 DENIED moderate
App\Entity\Entry {#2406
  +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#1897 …}
  +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#266
    +icon: null
    +name: "privacyguides@lemmy.one"
    +title: "privacyguides"
    +description: """
      *In the digital age, protecting your personal information might seem like an impossible task. We’re here to help.*\n
      \n
      This is a community for sharing news about privacy, posting information about cool privacy tools and services, and getting advice about your privacy journey.\n
      \n
      ---\n
      \n
      You can subscribe to this community from any Kbin or Lemmy instance:\n
      \n
      - [Subscribe on Kbin.social](https://kbin.social/m/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
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      - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
      - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
      - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
      - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
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        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
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        3. No soliciting engagement: Don’t ask for upvotes, follows, etc.\n
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        8. Memes/images/video posts that could be summarized as text explanations should not be posted. Infographics and conference talks from reputable sources are acceptable.\n
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        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
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        3. No soliciting engagement: Don’t ask for upvotes, follows, etc.\n
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        8. Memes/images/video posts that could be summarized as text explanations should not be posted. Infographics and conference talks from reputable sources are acceptable.\n
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        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
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        \n
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        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.one](https://lemmy.one/c/privacyguides)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
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        3. No soliciting engagement: Don’t ask for upvotes, follows, etc.\n
        4. Surveys, Fundraising, and Petitions must be **pre**-approved by the mod team.\n
        5. Be civil, no violence, hate speech. Assume people here are posting in good faith.\n
        6. Don’t repost topics which have already been covered here.\n
        7. News posts must be related to privacy and security, and **your post title must match the article headline exactly.** Do not editorialize titles, you can post your opinions in the post body or a comment.\n
        8. Memes/images/video posts that could be summarized as text explanations should not be posted. Infographics and conference talks from reputable sources are acceptable.\n
        9. **No help vampires:** This is not a tech support subreddit, don’t abuse our community’s willingness to help. Questions related to privacy, security or privacy/security related software and their configurations are acceptable.\n
        10. No misinformation: Extraordinary claims must be matched with **evidence.**\n
        11. Do not post about VPNs or cryptocurrencies which are not listed on [privacyguides.org](https://www.privacyguides.org/en/tools/). See Rule 2 for info on adding new recommendations to the website.\n
        12. General guides or software lists are not permitted. Original sources and research about specific topics are allowed as long as they are high quality and factual. **We are not providing a platform for poorly-vetted, out-of-date or conflicting recommendations.**\n
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        \n
        Additional Resources:\n
        \n
        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
        - [Big Ass Data Broker Opt-Out List](https://github.com/yaelwrites/Big-Ass-Data-Broker-Opt-Out-List)
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        [Learn more…](https://lemmy.one/post/355)\n
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        Check out our website at [privacyguides.org](https://www.privacyguides.org) before asking your questions here. We’ve tried answering the common questions and recommendations there!\n
        \n
        Want to get involved? The website is [open-source on GitHub](https://github.com/privacyguides/privacyguides.org), and your help would be appreciated!\n
        \n
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        \n
        **This community is the “official” Privacy Guides community on Lemmy, which can be [verified here](https://www.reddit.com/r/PrivacyGuides/comments/13x7oe3/who_wants_to_try_out_lemmy_privacyguideslemmyone/). Other “Privacy Guides” communities on other Lemmy servers are not moderated by this team or associated with the website.**\n
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        3. No soliciting engagement: Don’t ask for upvotes, follows, etc.\n
        4. Surveys, Fundraising, and Petitions must be **pre**-approved by the mod team.\n
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        8. Memes/images/video posts that could be summarized as text explanations should not be posted. Infographics and conference talks from reputable sources are acceptable.\n
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        10. No misinformation: Extraordinary claims must be matched with **evidence.**\n
        11. Do not post about VPNs or cryptocurrencies which are not listed on [privacyguides.org](https://www.privacyguides.org/en/tools/). See Rule 2 for info on adding new recommendations to the website.\n
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        Additional Resources:\n
        \n
        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
        - [Big Ass Data Broker Opt-Out List](https://github.com/yaelwrites/Big-Ass-Data-Broker-Opt-Out-List)
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        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.one](https://lemmy.one/c/privacyguides)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        - [Subscribe on Beehaw.org](https://beehaw.org/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
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        3. No soliciting engagement: Don’t ask for upvotes, follows, etc.\n
        4. Surveys, Fundraising, and Petitions must be **pre**-approved by the mod team.\n
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        11. Do not post about VPNs or cryptocurrencies which are not listed on [privacyguides.org](https://www.privacyguides.org/en/tools/). See Rule 2 for info on adding new recommendations to the website.\n
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        Additional Resources:\n
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        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
        - [Big Ass Data Broker Opt-Out List](https://github.com/yaelwrites/Big-Ass-Data-Broker-Opt-Out-List)
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        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        You can subscribe to this community from any Kbin or Lemmy instance:\n
        \n
        - [Subscribe on Kbin.social](https://kbin.social/m/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.one](https://lemmy.one/c/privacyguides)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        - [Subscribe on Beehaw.org](https://beehaw.org/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
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        [Learn more…](https://lemmy.one/post/355)\n
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        \n
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        11. Do not post about VPNs or cryptocurrencies which are not listed on [privacyguides.org](https://www.privacyguides.org/en/tools/). See Rule 2 for info on adding new recommendations to the website.\n
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        \n
        Additional Resources:\n
        \n
        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
        - [Big Ass Data Broker Opt-Out List](https://github.com/yaelwrites/Big-Ass-Data-Broker-Opt-Out-List)
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        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        You can subscribe to this community from any Kbin or Lemmy instance:\n
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        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.one](https://lemmy.one/c/privacyguides)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
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        3. No soliciting engagement: Don’t ask for upvotes, follows, etc.\n
        4. Surveys, Fundraising, and Petitions must be **pre**-approved by the mod team.\n
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        8. Memes/images/video posts that could be summarized as text explanations should not be posted. Infographics and conference talks from reputable sources are acceptable.\n
        9. **No help vampires:** This is not a tech support subreddit, don’t abuse our community’s willingness to help. Questions related to privacy, security or privacy/security related software and their configurations are acceptable.\n
        10. No misinformation: Extraordinary claims must be matched with **evidence.**\n
        11. Do not post about VPNs or cryptocurrencies which are not listed on [privacyguides.org](https://www.privacyguides.org/en/tools/). See Rule 2 for info on adding new recommendations to the website.\n
        12. General guides or software lists are not permitted. Original sources and research about specific topics are allowed as long as they are high quality and factual. **We are not providing a platform for poorly-vetted, out-of-date or conflicting recommendations.**\n
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        \n
        Additional Resources:\n
        \n
        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
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        4. Surveys, Fundraising, and Petitions must be **pre**-approved by the mod team.\n
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        Additional Resources:\n
        \n
        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
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        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
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        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
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        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
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        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
        - [Big Ass Data Broker Opt-Out List](https://github.com/yaelwrites/Big-Ass-Data-Broker-Opt-Out-List)
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        \n
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        \n
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        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
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        \n
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        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        - [Subscribe on Beehaw.org](https://beehaw.org/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
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        3. No soliciting engagement: Don’t ask for upvotes, follows, etc.\n
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        10. No misinformation: Extraordinary claims must be matched with **evidence.**\n
        11. Do not post about VPNs or cryptocurrencies which are not listed on [privacyguides.org](https://www.privacyguides.org/en/tools/). See Rule 2 for info on adding new recommendations to the website.\n
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        Additional Resources:\n
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        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
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        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
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        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
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        \n
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        You can subscribe to this community from any Kbin or Lemmy instance:\n
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        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
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        \n
        ---\n
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        You can subscribe to this community from any Kbin or Lemmy instance:\n
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        - [Subscribe on Kbin.social](https://kbin.social/m/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.one](https://lemmy.one/c/privacyguides)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        - [Subscribe on Beehaw.org](https://beehaw.org/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
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        \n
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        3. No soliciting engagement: Don’t ask for upvotes, follows, etc.\n
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        \n
        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
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        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
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        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
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        \n
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        \n
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        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.one](https://lemmy.one/c/privacyguides)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
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        Additional Resources:\n
        \n
        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
        - [Big Ass Data Broker Opt-Out List](https://github.com/yaelwrites/Big-Ass-Data-Broker-Opt-Out-List)
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        3. No soliciting engagement: Don’t ask for upvotes, follows, etc.\n
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        Additional Resources:\n
        \n
        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
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        Additional Resources:\n
        \n
        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
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        \n
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        You can subscribe to this community from any Kbin or Lemmy instance:\n
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        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.one](https://lemmy.one/c/privacyguides)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
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        Additional Resources:\n
        \n
        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
        - [Big Ass Data Broker Opt-Out List](https://github.com/yaelwrites/Big-Ass-Data-Broker-Opt-Out-List)
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        \n
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        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
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        3. No soliciting engagement: Don’t ask for upvotes, follows, etc.\n
        4. Surveys, Fundraising, and Petitions must be **pre**-approved by the mod team.\n
        5. Be civil, no violence, hate speech. Assume people here are posting in good faith.\n
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        8. Memes/images/video posts that could be summarized as text explanations should not be posted. Infographics and conference talks from reputable sources are acceptable.\n
        9. **No help vampires:** This is not a tech support subreddit, don’t abuse our community’s willingness to help. Questions related to privacy, security or privacy/security related software and their configurations are acceptable.\n
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        11. Do not post about VPNs or cryptocurrencies which are not listed on [privacyguides.org](https://www.privacyguides.org/en/tools/). See Rule 2 for info on adding new recommendations to the website.\n
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        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
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        Additional Resources:\n
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        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
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        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
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        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
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        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
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        \n
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        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.one](https://lemmy.one/c/privacyguides)\n
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        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
        - [Big Ass Data Broker Opt-Out List](https://github.com/yaelwrites/Big-Ass-Data-Broker-Opt-Out-List)
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        3. No soliciting engagement: Don’t ask for upvotes, follows, etc.\n
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        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
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        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
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        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
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        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
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        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
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        \n
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        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        You can subscribe to this community from any Kbin or Lemmy instance:\n
        \n
        - [Subscribe on Kbin.social](https://kbin.social/m/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.one](https://lemmy.one/c/privacyguides)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        - [Subscribe on Beehaw.org](https://beehaw.org/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
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        \n
        ---\n
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        3. No soliciting engagement: Don’t ask for upvotes, follows, etc.\n
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        8. Memes/images/video posts that could be summarized as text explanations should not be posted. Infographics and conference talks from reputable sources are acceptable.\n
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        10. No misinformation: Extraordinary claims must be matched with **evidence.**\n
        11. Do not post about VPNs or cryptocurrencies which are not listed on [privacyguides.org](https://www.privacyguides.org/en/tools/). See Rule 2 for info on adding new recommendations to the website.\n
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        \n
        Additional Resources:\n
        \n
        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
        - [Big Ass Data Broker Opt-Out List](https://github.com/yaelwrites/Big-Ass-Data-Broker-Opt-Out-List)
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        \n
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        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        You can subscribe to this community from any Kbin or Lemmy instance:\n
        \n
        - [Subscribe on Kbin.social](https://kbin.social/m/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.one](https://lemmy.one/c/privacyguides)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        - [Subscribe on Beehaw.org](https://beehaw.org/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
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        ---\n
        \n
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        \n
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        3. No soliciting engagement: Don’t ask for upvotes, follows, etc.\n
        4. Surveys, Fundraising, and Petitions must be **pre**-approved by the mod team.\n
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        6. Don’t repost topics which have already been covered here.\n
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        8. Memes/images/video posts that could be summarized as text explanations should not be posted. Infographics and conference talks from reputable sources are acceptable.\n
        9. **No help vampires:** This is not a tech support subreddit, don’t abuse our community’s willingness to help. Questions related to privacy, security or privacy/security related software and their configurations are acceptable.\n
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        11. Do not post about VPNs or cryptocurrencies which are not listed on [privacyguides.org](https://www.privacyguides.org/en/tools/). See Rule 2 for info on adding new recommendations to the website.\n
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        ---\n
        \n
        Additional Resources:\n
        \n
        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
        - [Big Ass Data Broker Opt-Out List](https://github.com/yaelwrites/Big-Ass-Data-Broker-Opt-Out-List)
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        You can subscribe to this community from any Kbin or Lemmy instance:\n
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        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.one](https://lemmy.one/c/privacyguides)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        - [Subscribe on Beehaw.org](https://beehaw.org/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
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        **This community is the “official” Privacy Guides community on Lemmy, which can be [verified here](https://www.reddit.com/r/PrivacyGuides/comments/13x7oe3/who_wants_to_try_out_lemmy_privacyguideslemmyone/). Other “Privacy Guides” communities on other Lemmy servers are not moderated by this team or associated with the website.**\n
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        3. No soliciting engagement: Don’t ask for upvotes, follows, etc.\n
        4. Surveys, Fundraising, and Petitions must be **pre**-approved by the mod team.\n
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        8. Memes/images/video posts that could be summarized as text explanations should not be posted. Infographics and conference talks from reputable sources are acceptable.\n
        9. **No help vampires:** This is not a tech support subreddit, don’t abuse our community’s willingness to help. Questions related to privacy, security or privacy/security related software and their configurations are acceptable.\n
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        Additional Resources:\n
        \n
        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
        - [Big Ass Data Broker Opt-Out List](https://github.com/yaelwrites/Big-Ass-Data-Broker-Opt-Out-List)
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        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        You can subscribe to this community from any Kbin or Lemmy instance:\n
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        - [Subscribe on Kbin.social](https://kbin.social/m/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.one](https://lemmy.one/c/privacyguides)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
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        Additional Resources:\n
        \n
        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
        - [Big Ass Data Broker Opt-Out List](https://github.com/yaelwrites/Big-Ass-Data-Broker-Opt-Out-List)
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        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        You can subscribe to this community from any Kbin or Lemmy instance:\n
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        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.one](https://lemmy.one/c/privacyguides)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
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        3. No soliciting engagement: Don’t ask for upvotes, follows, etc.\n
        4. Surveys, Fundraising, and Petitions must be **pre**-approved by the mod team.\n
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        10. No misinformation: Extraordinary claims must be matched with **evidence.**\n
        11. Do not post about VPNs or cryptocurrencies which are not listed on [privacyguides.org](https://www.privacyguides.org/en/tools/). See Rule 2 for info on adding new recommendations to the website.\n
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        Additional Resources:\n
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        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
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      That’s cool but I like to have a central client for all my email providers. I’ve decided to go to fastmail which is good enough for my threat model. The thing that really convinced me is their [blog post](https://www.fastmail.com/blog/why-we-dont-offer-pgp/).\n
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        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.one](https://lemmy.one/c/privacyguides)\n
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        Additional Resources:\n
        \n
        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
        - [Big Ass Data Broker Opt-Out List](https://github.com/yaelwrites/Big-Ass-Data-Broker-Opt-Out-List)
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        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
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        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
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        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
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        3. No soliciting engagement: Don’t ask for upvotes, follows, etc.\n
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        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
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        \n
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        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        You can subscribe to this community from any Kbin or Lemmy instance:\n
        \n
        - [Subscribe on Kbin.social](https://kbin.social/m/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.one](https://lemmy.one/c/privacyguides)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        - [Subscribe on Beehaw.org](https://beehaw.org/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
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        [Learn more…](https://lemmy.one/post/355)\n
        \n
        ---\n
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        Check out our website at [privacyguides.org](https://www.privacyguides.org) before asking your questions here. We’ve tried answering the common questions and recommendations there!\n
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        \n
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        3. No soliciting engagement: Don’t ask for upvotes, follows, etc.\n
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        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
        - [Big Ass Data Broker Opt-Out List](https://github.com/yaelwrites/Big-Ass-Data-Broker-Opt-Out-List)
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        \n
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        You can subscribe to this community from any Kbin or Lemmy instance:\n
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        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.one](https://lemmy.one/c/privacyguides)\n
        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
        - [Subscribe on Beehaw.org](https://beehaw.org/c/privacyguides@lemmy.one)\n
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        \n
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        \n
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        2. This is not the place for self-promotion if you are not listed on privacyguides.org. If you want to be listed, [make a suggestion on our forum first](https://discuss.privacyguides.net/c/site-development/suggestions/6).\n
        3. No soliciting engagement: Don’t ask for upvotes, follows, etc.\n
        4. Surveys, Fundraising, and Petitions must be **pre**-approved by the mod team.\n
        5. Be civil, no violence, hate speech. Assume people here are posting in good faith.\n
        6. Don’t repost topics which have already been covered here.\n
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        8. Memes/images/video posts that could be summarized as text explanations should not be posted. Infographics and conference talks from reputable sources are acceptable.\n
        9. **No help vampires:** This is not a tech support subreddit, don’t abuse our community’s willingness to help. Questions related to privacy, security or privacy/security related software and their configurations are acceptable.\n
        10. No misinformation: Extraordinary claims must be matched with **evidence.**\n
        11. Do not post about VPNs or cryptocurrencies which are not listed on [privacyguides.org](https://www.privacyguides.org/en/tools/). See Rule 2 for info on adding new recommendations to the website.\n
        12. General guides or software lists are not permitted. Original sources and research about specific topics are allowed as long as they are high quality and factual. **We are not providing a platform for poorly-vetted, out-of-date or conflicting recommendations.**\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        Additional Resources:\n
        \n
        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
        - [Big Ass Data Broker Opt-Out List](https://github.com/yaelwrites/Big-Ass-Data-Broker-Opt-Out-List)
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        You can subscribe to this community from any Kbin or Lemmy instance:\n
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        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
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        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
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        - [Subscribe on Lemmy.one](https://lemmy.one/c/privacyguides)\n
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        - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
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        - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
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        - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
        - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
        - [Big Ass Data Broker Opt-Out List](https://github.com/yaelwrites/Big-Ass-Data-Broker-Opt-Out-List)
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    - [Subscribe on Lemmy.one](https://lemmy.one/c/privacyguides)\n
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    - [EFF: Surveillance Self-Defense](https://ssd.eff.org/)\n
    - [Consumer Reports Security Planner](https://securityplanner.consumerreports.org/)\n
    - [Jonah Aragon](https://www.jonaharagon.com) ([YouTube](https://youtube.com/@jonaharagon))\n
    - [r/Privacy](https://www.reddit.com/r/Privacy)\n
    - [Big Ass Data Broker Opt-Out List](https://github.com/yaelwrites/Big-Ass-Data-Broker-Opt-Out-List)
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