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Security

Token

There is no security token.

Firewall

main Name
Security enabled
Stateless

Configuration

Key Value
provider security.user.provider.concrete.app_user_provider
context main
entry_point App\Security\KbinAuthenticator
user_checker App\Security\UserChecker
access_denied_handler (none)
access_denied_url (none)
authenticators
[
  "two_factor"
  "remember_me"
  "App\Security\KbinAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\FacebookAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\GoogleAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\GithubAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\KeycloakAuthenticator"
]

Listeners

Listener Duration Response
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\ChannelListener {#723
  -map: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\AccessMap {#722 …}
  -logger: Monolog\Logger {#783 …}
  -httpPort: 80
  -httpsPort: 443
}
0.00 ms (none)
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\ContextListener {#706
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\TokenStorage {#1017 …}
  -sessionKey: "_security_main"
  -logger: Monolog\Logger {#783 …}
  -userProviders: Symfony\Component\DependencyInjection\Argument\RewindableGenerator {#705 …}
  -dispatcher: Symfony\Component\EventDispatcher\Debug\TraceableEventDispatcher {#747 …}
  -registered: false
  -trustResolver: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authentication\AuthenticationTrustResolver {#780 …}
  -sessionTrackerEnabler: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage::enableUsageTracking(): void {#703 …}
}
0.26 ms (none)
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\AuthenticatorManagerListener {#584
  -authenticatorManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Authentication\AuthenticatorManager {#595 …}
}
0.00 ms (none)
Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Http\Firewall\TwoFactorAccessListener {#582
  -twoFactorFirewallConfig: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\TwoFactor\TwoFactorFirewallConfig {#842 …}
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -twoFactorAccessDecider: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\TwoFactorAccessDecider {#581 …}
}
0.06 ms (none)
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\AccessListener {#579
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -accessDecisionManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\TraceableAccessDecisionManager {#937 …}
  -map: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\AccessMap {#722 …}
}
0.00 ms (none)
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\LogoutListener {#786
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -options: [
    "csrf_parameter" => "_csrf_token"
    "csrf_token_id" => "logout"
    "logout_path" => "app_logout"
  ]
  -httpUtils: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\HttpUtils {#841 …}
  -csrfTokenManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Csrf\CsrfTokenManager {#1015 …}
  -eventDispatcher: Symfony\Component\EventDispatcher\Debug\TraceableEventDispatcher {#747 …}
}
0.00 ms (none)

Authenticators

No authenticators have been recorded. Check previous profiles on your authentication endpoint.

Access Decision

affirmative Strategy
# Voter class
1
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\AuthenticatedVoter"
2
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
3
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
4
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\ExpressionVoter"
5
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
6
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
7
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
8
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
9
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
10
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
11
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
12
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
13
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
14
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"

Access decision log

# Result Attributes Object
1 DENIED ROLE_USER
null
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
ACCESS DENIED
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
2 DENIED moderate
Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#2033
  +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#2896 …}
  +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1550 …}
  +image: null
  +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#2954 …}
  +slug: "I-feel-like-the-Steam-Deck-is-the-best-proof"
  +title: "I feel like the Steam Deck is the best proof of Gabe Newell's quote that "piracy is a service issue.""
  +url: null
  +body: """
    They could have easily crammed the Steam Deck full of stuff to make it hard to use for piracy - locking down everything, making it usable only to play games you legitimately own, force you to go through who knows what hoops in order to play games on it. That’s what Nintendo or Apple or most other companies do.\n
    \n
    But they didn’t, because they realized they *didn’t have to*. It’s 100% possible to put pirated games on the Steam Deck - in fact, it’s as easy as it could reasonably be. You copy it over, you wire it up to Steam, if it’s a non-Linux game you set it up with Proton or whatever else you want to use to run it, bam. You can now run it in Steam just as easily as a normal Steam game (usually.) If you want something similar to cloud saves you can even set up SyncThing for that.\n
    \n
    But all of that is a lot of work, and after all that you still don’t have automatic updates, and some games won’t run this way for one reason or another even though they’ll run if you own them (usually, I assume, because of Steam Deck specific tweaks or install stuff that are only used when you’re running them on the Deck via the normal method.) Some of this you can work around but it’s even more hoops.\n
    \n
    Whereas if you own a game it’s just push a button and play. They made legitimately owning a game *more* convenient than piracy, and they did it without relying on DRM or anything that restricts or annoys legitimate users at all - even if a game has a DRM-free GOG version, owning it on Steam will still make it easier to play on the Steam Deck.
    """
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  +hasEmbed: false
  +commentCount: 302
  +favouriteCount: 1491
  +score: 0
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  +sticky: false
  +lastActive: DateTime @1719315732 {#2259
    date: 2024-06-25 13:42:12.0 +02:00
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  +mentions: null
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  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2951 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2948 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2982 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2978 …}
  +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2995 …}
  +children: [
    3 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#2089
      +user: App\Entity\User {#259 …}
      +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#2033 …2}
      +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1550 …}
      +image: null
      +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#2088 …}
      +root: App\Entity\EntryComment {#2011
        +user: App\Entity\User {#259 …}
        +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#2033 …2}
        +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1550 …}
        +image: null
        +parent: null
        +root: null
        +body: """
          ...?\n
          \n
          No they couldn't, it's fucking Linux. They'd have to tie the controller drivers hostage to "lock it down", and at that point they'd hit so many hiccups with legitimate users.\n
          \n
          Like they'd have to pull so many things from Linux (in particular Proton) to "DRM-ify" the steamdeck.\n
          \n
          And as I think someone else just posted, some of the stuff they'd need to lock-down aren't even things Valve has control over. Like I said Proton but Valve doesn't own proton.
          """
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        +score: 0
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          date: 2023-12-14 07:21:51.0 +01:00
        }
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        ]
        +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2021 …}
        +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2029 …}
        +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2020 …}
        +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2027 …}
        +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2031 …}
        +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2037 …}
        -id: 182185
        -bodyTs: "'aren':74 'control':15,80 'couldn':3 'd':10,27,37,68 'doesn':88 'driver':16 'drm':51 'drm-ifi':50 'els':60 'even':76 'fuck':7 'hiccup':31 'hit':28 'hostag':17 'ifi':52 'legitim':33 'like':35,82 'linux':8,45 'lock':19,72 'lock-down':71 'mani':30,42 'need':69 'particular':47 'point':25 'post':62 'proton':48,85,91 'pull':40 'said':84 'someon':59 'steamdeck':54 'stuff':66 'thing':43,77 'think':58 'tie':13 'user':34 'valv':78,87"
        +ranking: 0
        +commentCount: 0
        +upVotes: 0
        +downVotes: 0
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        +apId: "https://kbin.social/m/piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com/t/668833/-/comment/3865572"
        +editedAt: DateTimeImmutable @1702395303 {#2018
          date: 2023-12-12 16:35:03.0 +01:00
        }
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          date: 2023-11-30 22:43:31.0 +01:00
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      }
      +body: """
        And if you're going to flaunt your title you should probably actually...you know...say something that pertains to that knowledge you have.\n
        \n
        This just seems like blind fanboyism. As great as the steamdeck is there's no reason to act like it's doing things it's not actually doing. It was designed the way it was because it had to be, there doesn't need to be anything whimsical about it.
        """
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      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2092 …}
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      +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2130 …}
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      +ranking: 0
      +commentCount: 0
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      +visibility: "visible             "
      +apId: "https://kbin.social/m/piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com/t/668833/-/comment/3866893"
      +editedAt: null
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701385724 {#2064
        date: 2023-12-01 00:08:44.0 +01:00
      }
      +"title": 182462
    }
    1 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#2011}
    2 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#2079
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      +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#2033 …2}
      +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1550 …}
      +image: null
      +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#2084 …}
      +root: App\Entity\EntryComment {#2011}
      +body: """
        The...arm-based systems that use a different kind of BIOS?\n
        \n
        If even Apple isn't doing it on x86, I don't see why Valve would start.
        """
      +lang: "en"
      +isAdult: false
      +favouriteCount: 1
      +score: 0
      +lastActive: DateTime @1701385520 {#2075
        date: 2023-12-01 00:05:20.0 +01:00
      }
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        "@Yglorba@lemmy.dbzer0.com"
        "@AnonTwo@kbin.social"
        "@squaresinger@feddit.de"
      ]
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      +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2097 …}
      +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2082 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2096 …}
      +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2081 …}
      +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2098 …}
      -id: 182452
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      +ranking: 0
      +commentCount: 0
      +upVotes: 0
      +downVotes: 0
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +apId: "https://kbin.social/m/piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com/t/668833/-/comment/3866842"
      +editedAt: null
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701385520 {#2061
        date: 2023-12-01 00:05:20.0 +01:00
      }
      +"title": 182452
    }
    0 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#2138
      +user: App\Entity\User {#259 …}
      +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#2033 …2}
      +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1550 …}
      +image: null
      +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#2040 …}
      +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#2345 …}
      +body: """
        That's not moving goalposts, you're just arguing semantics. People generally think of eliminate when they say prevent in this kind of conversation....\n
        \n
        If anything if they went "prevention" and not "eliminate" like in your sense...it would be even dumber because it would just make the steamdeck a *more* restrictive x86-processor computer compared to the systems people were *already comparing it to* up until it's release\n
        \n
        Imagine how it would've gone down if people were saying "Of course you can do that, it's a PC" if people responded with "Yeah, except it's 10x harder to do things you could normally do on PC". They wanted it to be close to how a PC is, it was part of the advertising campaign.
        """
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        date: 2023-12-01 00:27:30.0 +01:00
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      ]
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      +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2351 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2332 …}
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}
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
ACCESS DENIED
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
3 DENIED edit
Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#2033
  +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#2896 …}
  +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1550 …}
  +image: null
  +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#2954 …}
  +slug: "I-feel-like-the-Steam-Deck-is-the-best-proof"
  +title: "I feel like the Steam Deck is the best proof of Gabe Newell's quote that "piracy is a service issue.""
  +url: null
  +body: """
    They could have easily crammed the Steam Deck full of stuff to make it hard to use for piracy - locking down everything, making it usable only to play games you legitimately own, force you to go through who knows what hoops in order to play games on it. That’s what Nintendo or Apple or most other companies do.\n
    \n
    But they didn’t, because they realized they *didn’t have to*. It’s 100% possible to put pirated games on the Steam Deck - in fact, it’s as easy as it could reasonably be. You copy it over, you wire it up to Steam, if it’s a non-Linux game you set it up with Proton or whatever else you want to use to run it, bam. You can now run it in Steam just as easily as a normal Steam game (usually.) If you want something similar to cloud saves you can even set up SyncThing for that.\n
    \n
    But all of that is a lot of work, and after all that you still don’t have automatic updates, and some games won’t run this way for one reason or another even though they’ll run if you own them (usually, I assume, because of Steam Deck specific tweaks or install stuff that are only used when you’re running them on the Deck via the normal method.) Some of this you can work around but it’s even more hoops.\n
    \n
    Whereas if you own a game it’s just push a button and play. They made legitimately owning a game *more* convenient than piracy, and they did it without relying on DRM or anything that restricts or annoys legitimate users at all - even if a game has a DRM-free GOG version, owning it on Steam will still make it easier to play on the Steam Deck.
    """
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        +image: null
        +parent: null
        +root: null
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          ...?\n
          \n
          No they couldn't, it's fucking Linux. They'd have to tie the controller drivers hostage to "lock it down", and at that point they'd hit so many hiccups with legitimate users.\n
          \n
          Like they'd have to pull so many things from Linux (in particular Proton) to "DRM-ify" the steamdeck.\n
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        The...arm-based systems that use a different kind of BIOS?\n
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        If even Apple isn't doing it on x86, I don't see why Valve would start.
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        That's not moving goalposts, you're just arguing semantics. People generally think of eliminate when they say prevent in this kind of conversation....\n
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    They could have easily crammed the Steam Deck full of stuff to make it hard to use for piracy - locking down everything, making it usable only to play games you legitimately own, force you to go through who knows what hoops in order to play games on it. That’s what Nintendo or Apple or most other companies do.\n
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          ...?\n
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          No they couldn't, it's fucking Linux. They'd have to tie the controller drivers hostage to "lock it down", and at that point they'd hit so many hiccups with legitimate users.\n
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          Like they'd have to pull so many things from Linux (in particular Proton) to "DRM-ify" the steamdeck.\n
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        And if you're going to flaunt your title you should probably actually...you know...say something that pertains to that knowledge you have.\n
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        This just seems like blind fanboyism. As great as the steamdeck is there's no reason to act like it's doing things it's not actually doing. It was designed the way it was because it had to be, there doesn't need to be anything whimsical about it.
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        The...arm-based systems that use a different kind of BIOS?\n
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        If even Apple isn't doing it on x86, I don't see why Valve would start.
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        That's not moving goalposts, you're just arguing semantics. People generally think of eliminate when they say prevent in this kind of conversation....\n
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        If anything if they went "prevention" and not "eliminate" like in your sense...it would be even dumber because it would just make the steamdeck a *more* restrictive x86-processor computer compared to the systems people were *already comparing it to* up until it's release\n
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          The...arm-based systems that use a different kind of BIOS?\n
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          That's not moving goalposts, you're just arguing semantics. People generally think of eliminate when they say prevent in this kind of conversation....\n
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    And if you're going to flaunt your title you should probably actually...you know...say something that pertains to that knowledge you have.\n
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          The...arm-based systems that use a different kind of BIOS?\n
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    And if you're going to flaunt your title you should probably actually...you know...say something that pertains to that knowledge you have.\n
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      They could have easily crammed the Steam Deck full of stuff to make it hard to use for piracy - locking down everything, making it usable only to play games you legitimately own, force you to go through who knows what hoops in order to play games on it. That’s what Nintendo or Apple or most other companies do.\n
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          ...?\n
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          Like they'd have to pull so many things from Linux (in particular Proton) to "DRM-ify" the steamdeck.\n
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          The...arm-based systems that use a different kind of BIOS?\n
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          That's not moving goalposts, you're just arguing semantics. People generally think of eliminate when they say prevent in this kind of conversation....\n
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    And if you're going to flaunt your title you should probably actually...you know...say something that pertains to that knowledge you have.\n
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    This just seems like blind fanboyism. As great as the steamdeck is there's no reason to act like it's doing things it's not actually doing. It was designed the way it was because it had to be, there doesn't need to be anything whimsical about it.
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          The...arm-based systems that use a different kind of BIOS?\n
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          If even Apple isn't doing it on x86, I don't see why Valve would start.
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          That's not moving goalposts, you're just arguing semantics. People generally think of eliminate when they say prevent in this kind of conversation....\n
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    ...?\n
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    No they couldn't, it's fucking Linux. They'd have to tie the controller drivers hostage to "lock it down", and at that point they'd hit so many hiccups with legitimate users.\n
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    Like they'd have to pull so many things from Linux (in particular Proton) to "DRM-ify" the steamdeck.\n
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          The...arm-based systems that use a different kind of BIOS?\n
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          If even Apple isn't doing it on x86, I don't see why Valve would start.
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          If anything if they went "prevention" and not "eliminate" like in your sense...it would be even dumber because it would just make the steamdeck a *more* restrictive x86-processor computer compared to the systems people were *already comparing it to* up until it's release\n
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      They could have easily crammed the Steam Deck full of stuff to make it hard to use for piracy - locking down everything, making it usable only to play games you legitimately own, force you to go through who knows what hoops in order to play games on it. That’s what Nintendo or Apple or most other companies do.\n
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      But they didn’t, because they realized they *didn’t have to*. It’s 100% possible to put pirated games on the Steam Deck - in fact, it’s as easy as it could reasonably be. You copy it over, you wire it up to Steam, if it’s a non-Linux game you set it up with Proton or whatever else you want to use to run it, bam. You can now run it in Steam just as easily as a normal Steam game (usually.) If you want something similar to cloud saves you can even set up SyncThing for that.\n
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      Whereas if you own a game it’s just push a button and play. They made legitimately owning a game *more* convenient than piracy, and they did it without relying on DRM or anything that restricts or annoys legitimate users at all - even if a game has a DRM-free GOG version, owning it on Steam will still make it easier to play on the Steam Deck.
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          And if you're going to flaunt your title you should probably actually...you know...say something that pertains to that knowledge you have.\n
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          This just seems like blind fanboyism. As great as the steamdeck is there's no reason to act like it's doing things it's not actually doing. It was designed the way it was because it had to be, there doesn't need to be anything whimsical about it.
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          The...arm-based systems that use a different kind of BIOS?\n
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          If even Apple isn't doing it on x86, I don't see why Valve would start.
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          That's not moving goalposts, you're just arguing semantics. People generally think of eliminate when they say prevent in this kind of conversation....\n
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          If anything if they went "prevention" and not "eliminate" like in your sense...it would be even dumber because it would just make the steamdeck a *more* restrictive x86-processor computer compared to the systems people were *already comparing it to* up until it's release\n
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          And if you're going to flaunt your title you should probably actually...you know...say something that pertains to that knowledge you have.\n
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    The...arm-based systems that use a different kind of BIOS?\n
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            ...?\n
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          And if you're going to flaunt your title you should probably actually...you know...say something that pertains to that knowledge you have.\n
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    The...arm-based systems that use a different kind of BIOS?\n
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      They could have easily crammed the Steam Deck full of stuff to make it hard to use for piracy - locking down everything, making it usable only to play games you legitimately own, force you to go through who knows what hoops in order to play games on it. That’s what Nintendo or Apple or most other companies do.\n
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            ...?\n
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            No they couldn't, it's fucking Linux. They'd have to tie the controller drivers hostage to "lock it down", and at that point they'd hit so many hiccups with legitimate users.\n
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            Like they'd have to pull so many things from Linux (in particular Proton) to "DRM-ify" the steamdeck.\n
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          And if you're going to flaunt your title you should probably actually...you know...say something that pertains to that knowledge you have.\n
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          This just seems like blind fanboyism. As great as the steamdeck is there's no reason to act like it's doing things it's not actually doing. It was designed the way it was because it had to be, there doesn't need to be anything whimsical about it.
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          That's not moving goalposts, you're just arguing semantics. People generally think of eliminate when they say prevent in this kind of conversation....\n
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            ...?\n
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    That's not moving goalposts, you're just arguing semantics. People generally think of eliminate when they say prevent in this kind of conversation....\n
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            ...?\n
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    That's not moving goalposts, you're just arguing semantics. People generally think of eliminate when they say prevent in this kind of conversation....\n
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    If anything if they went "prevention" and not "eliminate" like in your sense...it would be even dumber because it would just make the steamdeck a *more* restrictive x86-processor computer compared to the systems people were *already comparing it to* up until it's release\n
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    Imagine how it would've gone down if people were saying "Of course you can do that, it's a PC" if people responded with "Yeah, except it's 10x harder to do things you could normally do on PC". They wanted it to be close to how a PC is, it was part of the advertising campaign.
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      They could have easily crammed the Steam Deck full of stuff to make it hard to use for piracy - locking down everything, making it usable only to play games you legitimately own, force you to go through who knows what hoops in order to play games on it. That’s what Nintendo or Apple or most other companies do.\n
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            ...?\n
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          Some piracy sites do have accounts, just mostly small-scale.\n
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          Most of this complaint *really* doesn't have to do with piracy...I mean a lot of account sites don't even have anything to pirate.
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    ### Crunchyroll\n
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    1. Read the article on account deletion.\n
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    ### Crunchyroll\n
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    3. Get response: pLeASE Be awaRE cRuNChyRoll CustoMEr SUPPorT no lONGEr diReCTLY handleS CUstOmEr Data reQUests FoR gDpR, CCPa, aNd lgPd.\n
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    13. Sign an account deletion contract with the blood of your newborn.\n
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    ### Piracy\n
    \n
    Account? What is account? Can you eat account? Is account an instrument?
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    Some piracy sites do have accounts, just mostly small-scale.\n
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    Most of this complaint *really* doesn't have to do with piracy...I mean a lot of account sites don't even have anything to pirate.
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      ### Crunchyroll\n
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      1. Read the article on account deletion.\n
      2. Submit a support ticket.\n
      3. Get response: pLeASE Be awaRE cRuNChyRoll CustoMEr SUPPorT no lONGEr diReCTLY handleS CUstOmEr Data reQUests FoR gDpR, CCPa, aNd lgPd.\n
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      13. Sign an account deletion contract with the blood of your newborn.\n
      14. Support *may* delete your account, they didn’t delete my account yet.\n
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      Account? What is account? Can you eat account? Is account an instrument?
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          Not really, it's more internet in general. And if we look at social media, they have accounts as frustrating as crunchyroll to fully delete but without anything to pirate.\n
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          Like it's a fair complaint but, to be fair\n
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    Please prove me wrong and suggest me some modern ones that stand up to the older ones.\n
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    Also, why are there no 3rd person shooter/3D platformer hybrids aside from Ratchet & Clank / Jak series? This seems like an untapped genre hybridisation that works well together. Like literally why is no one making games like this. I would love some examples of 3rd person shooter platformers to prove me wrong again.\n
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        You're...just objectively wrong then. A Hat in Time was one of the best platformers released in the past 10 years, and even if *you* don't like it you can't base the entire genre on your own opinion.\n
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        I mean, I won't say everything is better, but it's not exactly as bad as you're saying either.\n
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        Sure, 1000s of games are bad. 1000s of games were bad in the 90s and 2000s too. Bugsby 3D was allowed to exist.\n
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        How many people have missed out on Hat In time exactly?
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        Like Hat in Time wasn't that long ago.\n
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        let's see...got a picture of "3D platformers in past 10 years"\n
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        3rd person shooters are *already* a small niche and that's without even including platformer!\n
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        Nobody can figure out what you're saying because you're associating "good" with a *subgenre of a subgenre*
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    Please prove me wrong and suggest me some modern ones that stand up to the older ones.\n
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    Also, why are there no 3rd person shooter/3D platformer hybrids aside from Ratchet &amp; Clank / Jak series? This seems like an untapped genre hybridisation that works well together. Like literally why is no one making games like this. I would love some examples of 3rd person shooter platformers to prove me wrong again.\n
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        You're...just objectively wrong then. A Hat in Time was one of the best platformers released in the past 10 years, and even if *you* don't like it you can't base the entire genre on your own opinion.\n
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        From what i'm gathering your issue is less that the genre is bad and more that there aren't a lot of "dark, gritty, realistic" platformers...which...there *never* was.\n
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        Like unless PS2 somehow had literally *all* of them *you haven't given examples other than ratchet and clank) You got Sonic and Mario in early 3D, Banjo Kazooie and DK 64 at the peak of early 3D, conker's bad fur day which is dark but also *extremely* cartoony...\n
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        Then you got platformers like Okami which again...cartoony. Goemon's 3D platformers and thats all cartoon\n
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        But like you're basically making a claim the entire genre currently is bad over an opinion of something that was never really that common to begin with.\n
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        edit: I even tried looking up platformers on PS2 and was greeted with Sly2, Rayman (did that have a 3d platformer?), psyconauts, Spongebob: BFBB\n
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        Like great games yeah, but the thing you're basing the entire topic on really seems to be a minority if your issue is a particular art style....
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        I mean, I won't say everything is better, but it's not exactly as bad as you're saying either.\n
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        Sure, 1000s of games are bad. 1000s of games were bad in the 90s and 2000s too. Bugsby 3D was allowed to exist.\n
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        OP isn't even able to say games back in the day were good as he has already bashed N64 and Gamecube (lame move btw, Goemon's Great Adventure I still play every year). He's very much just thinking of PS2.\n
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        How many people have missed out on Hat In time exactly?
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        Can't really work with this without examples. I don't think 3D platformer quality went down but I also think it's always been all over the place.\n
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        Like Hat in Time wasn't that long ago.\n
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        let's see...got a picture of "3D platformers in past 10 years"\n
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        I'm looking at it and honestly I need examples as to where you think Ps2 beat out this list so blatantly that there's a clear issue.
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        3rd person shooters are *already* a small niche and that's without even including platformer!\n
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    Please prove me wrong and suggest me some modern ones that stand up to the older ones.\n
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    Also, why are there no 3rd person shooter/3D platformer hybrids aside from Ratchet &amp; Clank / Jak series? This seems like an untapped genre hybridisation that works well together. Like literally why is no one making games like this. I would love some examples of 3rd person shooter platformers to prove me wrong again.\n
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        You're...just objectively wrong then. A Hat in Time was one of the best platformers released in the past 10 years, and even if *you* don't like it you can't base the entire genre on your own opinion.\n
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        From what i'm gathering your issue is less that the genre is bad and more that there aren't a lot of "dark, gritty, realistic" platformers...which...there *never* was.\n
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        Like unless PS2 somehow had literally *all* of them *you haven't given examples other than ratchet and clank) You got Sonic and Mario in early 3D, Banjo Kazooie and DK 64 at the peak of early 3D, conker's bad fur day which is dark but also *extremely* cartoony...\n
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        Then you got platformers like Okami which again...cartoony. Goemon's 3D platformers and thats all cartoon\n
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        edit: I even tried looking up platformers on PS2 and was greeted with Sly2, Rayman (did that have a 3d platformer?), psyconauts, Spongebob: BFBB\n
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        Like great games yeah, but the thing you're basing the entire topic on really seems to be a minority if your issue is a particular art style....
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        I mean, I won't say everything is better, but it's not exactly as bad as you're saying either.\n
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        Sure, 1000s of games are bad. 1000s of games were bad in the 90s and 2000s too. Bugsby 3D was allowed to exist.\n
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        OP isn't even able to say games back in the day were good as he has already bashed N64 and Gamecube (lame move btw, Goemon's Great Adventure I still play every year). He's very much just thinking of PS2.\n
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        How many people have missed out on Hat In time exactly?
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        Can't really work with this without examples. I don't think 3D platformer quality went down but I also think it's always been all over the place.\n
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        Like Hat in Time wasn't that long ago.\n
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        let's see...got a picture of "3D platformers in past 10 years"\n
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        I'm looking at it and honestly I need examples as to where you think Ps2 beat out this list so blatantly that there's a clear issue.
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        3rd person shooters are *already* a small niche and that's without even including platformer!\n
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      Please prove me wrong and suggest me some modern ones that stand up to the older ones.\n
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          I mean, I won't say everything is better, but it's not exactly as bad as you're saying either.\n
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          Sure, 1000s of games are bad. 1000s of games were bad in the 90s and 2000s too. Bugsby 3D was allowed to exist.\n
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          How many people have missed out on Hat In time exactly?
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          Can't really work with this without examples. I don't think 3D platformer quality went down but I also think it's always been all over the place.\n
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          Like Hat in Time wasn't that long ago.\n
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          let's see...got a picture of "3D platformers in past 10 years"\n
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          3rd person shooters are *already* a small niche and that's without even including platformer!\n
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          Nobody can figure out what you're saying because you're associating "good" with a *subgenre of a subgenre*
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    You're...just objectively wrong then. A Hat in Time was one of the best platformers released in the past 10 years, and even if *you* don't like it you can't base the entire genre on your own opinion.\n
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    From what i'm gathering your issue is less that the genre is bad and more that there aren't a lot of "dark, gritty, realistic" platformers...which...there *never* was.\n
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    Like unless PS2 somehow had literally *all* of them *you haven't given examples other than ratchet and clank) You got Sonic and Mario in early 3D, Banjo Kazooie and DK 64 at the peak of early 3D, conker's bad fur day which is dark but also *extremely* cartoony...\n
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    Then you got platformers like Okami which again...cartoony. Goemon's 3D platformers and thats all cartoon\n
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    Like I'm basically trying to say more games in the platformer genre were cartoony than not throughout 3D platformer history and *we need more examples of what you really mean*\n
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    But like you're basically making a claim the entire genre currently is bad over an opinion of something that was never really that common to begin with.\n
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    edit: I even tried looking up platformers on PS2 and was greeted with Sly2, Rayman (did that have a 3d platformer?), psyconauts, Spongebob: BFBB\n
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    Like great games yeah, but the thing you're basing the entire topic on really seems to be a minority if your issue is a particular art style....
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      Please prove me wrong and suggest me some modern ones that stand up to the older ones.\n
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          I mean, I won't say everything is better, but it's not exactly as bad as you're saying either.\n
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          Sure, 1000s of games are bad. 1000s of games were bad in the 90s and 2000s too. Bugsby 3D was allowed to exist.\n
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          OP isn't even able to say games back in the day were good as he has already bashed N64 and Gamecube (lame move btw, Goemon's Great Adventure I still play every year). He's very much just thinking of PS2.\n
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          How many people have missed out on Hat In time exactly?
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          Can't really work with this without examples. I don't think 3D platformer quality went down but I also think it's always been all over the place.\n
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          Like Hat in Time wasn't that long ago.\n
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          let's see...got a picture of "3D platformers in past 10 years"\n
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          3rd person shooters are *already* a small niche and that's without even including platformer!\n
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          Nobody can figure out what you're saying because you're associating "good" with a *subgenre of a subgenre*
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    You're...just objectively wrong then. A Hat in Time was one of the best platformers released in the past 10 years, and even if *you* don't like it you can't base the entire genre on your own opinion.\n
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    From what i'm gathering your issue is less that the genre is bad and more that there aren't a lot of "dark, gritty, realistic" platformers...which...there *never* was.\n
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    Like unless PS2 somehow had literally *all* of them *you haven't given examples other than ratchet and clank) You got Sonic and Mario in early 3D, Banjo Kazooie and DK 64 at the peak of early 3D, conker's bad fur day which is dark but also *extremely* cartoony...\n
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    Then you got platformers like Okami which again...cartoony. Goemon's 3D platformers and thats all cartoon\n
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    Like I'm basically trying to say more games in the platformer genre were cartoony than not throughout 3D platformer history and *we need more examples of what you really mean*\n
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    But like you're basically making a claim the entire genre currently is bad over an opinion of something that was never really that common to begin with.\n
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    edit: I even tried looking up platformers on PS2 and was greeted with Sly2, Rayman (did that have a 3d platformer?), psyconauts, Spongebob: BFBB\n
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    Like great games yeah, but the thing you're basing the entire topic on really seems to be a minority if your issue is a particular art style....
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      Please prove me wrong and suggest me some modern ones that stand up to the older ones.\n
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          I mean, I won't say everything is better, but it's not exactly as bad as you're saying either.\n
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          Sure, 1000s of games are bad. 1000s of games were bad in the 90s and 2000s too. Bugsby 3D was allowed to exist.\n
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          How many people have missed out on Hat In time exactly?
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          Can't really work with this without examples. I don't think 3D platformer quality went down but I also think it's always been all over the place.\n
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          Like Hat in Time wasn't that long ago.\n
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          let's see...got a picture of "3D platformers in past 10 years"\n
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          3rd person shooters are *already* a small niche and that's without even including platformer!\n
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          Nobody can figure out what you're saying because you're associating "good" with a *subgenre of a subgenre*
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    You're...just objectively wrong then. A Hat in Time was one of the best platformers released in the past 10 years, and even if *you* don't like it you can't base the entire genre on your own opinion.\n
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    From what i'm gathering your issue is less that the genre is bad and more that there aren't a lot of "dark, gritty, realistic" platformers...which...there *never* was.\n
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    Like unless PS2 somehow had literally *all* of them *you haven't given examples other than ratchet and clank) You got Sonic and Mario in early 3D, Banjo Kazooie and DK 64 at the peak of early 3D, conker's bad fur day which is dark but also *extremely* cartoony...\n
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    Then you got platformers like Okami which again...cartoony. Goemon's 3D platformers and thats all cartoon\n
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    edit: I even tried looking up platformers on PS2 and was greeted with Sly2, Rayman (did that have a 3d platformer?), psyconauts, Spongebob: BFBB\n
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      Please prove me wrong and suggest me some modern ones that stand up to the older ones.\n
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          You're...just objectively wrong then. A Hat in Time was one of the best platformers released in the past 10 years, and even if *you* don't like it you can't base the entire genre on your own opinion.\n
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          From what i'm gathering your issue is less that the genre is bad and more that there aren't a lot of "dark, gritty, realistic" platformers...which...there *never* was.\n
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          Like unless PS2 somehow had literally *all* of them *you haven't given examples other than ratchet and clank) You got Sonic and Mario in early 3D, Banjo Kazooie and DK 64 at the peak of early 3D, conker's bad fur day which is dark but also *extremely* cartoony...\n
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          Then you got platformers like Okami which again...cartoony. Goemon's 3D platformers and thats all cartoon\n
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          Like I'm basically trying to say more games in the platformer genre were cartoony than not throughout 3D platformer history and *we need more examples of what you really mean*\n
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          But like you're basically making a claim the entire genre currently is bad over an opinion of something that was never really that common to begin with.\n
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          edit: I even tried looking up platformers on PS2 and was greeted with Sly2, Rayman (did that have a 3d platformer?), psyconauts, Spongebob: BFBB\n
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          Like great games yeah, but the thing you're basing the entire topic on really seems to be a minority if your issue is a particular art style....
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          Can't really work with this without examples. I don't think 3D platformer quality went down but I also think it's always been all over the place.\n
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          Like Hat in Time wasn't that long ago.\n
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          let's see...got a picture of "3D platformers in past 10 years"\n
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          I'm looking at it and honestly I need examples as to where you think Ps2 beat out this list so blatantly that there's a clear issue.
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          3rd person shooters are *already* a small niche and that's without even including platformer!\n
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          Nobody can figure out what you're saying because you're associating "good" with a *subgenre of a subgenre*
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    I mean, I won't say everything is better, but it's not exactly as bad as you're saying either.\n
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    Sure, 1000s of games are bad. 1000s of games were bad in the 90s and 2000s too. Bugsby 3D was allowed to exist.\n
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    OP isn't even able to say games back in the day were good as he has already bashed N64 and Gamecube (lame move btw, Goemon's Great Adventure I still play every year). He's very much just thinking of PS2.\n
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    How many people have missed out on Hat In time exactly?
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      Please prove me wrong and suggest me some modern ones that stand up to the older ones.\n
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      Also, why are there no 3rd person shooter/3D platformer hybrids aside from Ratchet &amp; Clank / Jak series? This seems like an untapped genre hybridisation that works well together. Like literally why is no one making games like this. I would love some examples of 3rd person shooter platformers to prove me wrong again.\n
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          You're...just objectively wrong then. A Hat in Time was one of the best platformers released in the past 10 years, and even if *you* don't like it you can't base the entire genre on your own opinion.\n
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          From what i'm gathering your issue is less that the genre is bad and more that there aren't a lot of "dark, gritty, realistic" platformers...which...there *never* was.\n
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          Like unless PS2 somehow had literally *all* of them *you haven't given examples other than ratchet and clank) You got Sonic and Mario in early 3D, Banjo Kazooie and DK 64 at the peak of early 3D, conker's bad fur day which is dark but also *extremely* cartoony...\n
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          Then you got platformers like Okami which again...cartoony. Goemon's 3D platformers and thats all cartoon\n
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          But like you're basically making a claim the entire genre currently is bad over an opinion of something that was never really that common to begin with.\n
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          edit: I even tried looking up platformers on PS2 and was greeted with Sly2, Rayman (did that have a 3d platformer?), psyconauts, Spongebob: BFBB\n
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          Like great games yeah, but the thing you're basing the entire topic on really seems to be a minority if your issue is a particular art style....
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          Can't really work with this without examples. I don't think 3D platformer quality went down but I also think it's always been all over the place.\n
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          Like Hat in Time wasn't that long ago.\n
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          let's see...got a picture of "3D platformers in past 10 years"\n
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          3rd person shooters are *already* a small niche and that's without even including platformer!\n
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          Nobody can figure out what you're saying because you're associating "good" with a *subgenre of a subgenre*
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    I mean, I won't say everything is better, but it's not exactly as bad as you're saying either.\n
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    Sure, 1000s of games are bad. 1000s of games were bad in the 90s and 2000s too. Bugsby 3D was allowed to exist.\n
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    OP isn't even able to say games back in the day were good as he has already bashed N64 and Gamecube (lame move btw, Goemon's Great Adventure I still play every year). He's very much just thinking of PS2.\n
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    How many people have missed out on Hat In time exactly?
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      Please prove me wrong and suggest me some modern ones that stand up to the older ones.\n
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          You're...just objectively wrong then. A Hat in Time was one of the best platformers released in the past 10 years, and even if *you* don't like it you can't base the entire genre on your own opinion.\n
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          From what i'm gathering your issue is less that the genre is bad and more that there aren't a lot of "dark, gritty, realistic" platformers...which...there *never* was.\n
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          Like unless PS2 somehow had literally *all* of them *you haven't given examples other than ratchet and clank) You got Sonic and Mario in early 3D, Banjo Kazooie and DK 64 at the peak of early 3D, conker's bad fur day which is dark but also *extremely* cartoony...\n
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          Then you got platformers like Okami which again...cartoony. Goemon's 3D platformers and thats all cartoon\n
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          But like you're basically making a claim the entire genre currently is bad over an opinion of something that was never really that common to begin with.\n
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          Like great games yeah, but the thing you're basing the entire topic on really seems to be a minority if your issue is a particular art style....
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          Can't really work with this without examples. I don't think 3D platformer quality went down but I also think it's always been all over the place.\n
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          Like Hat in Time wasn't that long ago.\n
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          let's see...got a picture of "3D platformers in past 10 years"\n
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          3rd person shooters are *already* a small niche and that's without even including platformer!\n
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          Nobody can figure out what you're saying because you're associating "good" with a *subgenre of a subgenre*
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    I mean, I won't say everything is better, but it's not exactly as bad as you're saying either.\n
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    Sure, 1000s of games are bad. 1000s of games were bad in the 90s and 2000s too. Bugsby 3D was allowed to exist.\n
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    OP isn't even able to say games back in the day were good as he has already bashed N64 and Gamecube (lame move btw, Goemon's Great Adventure I still play every year). He's very much just thinking of PS2.\n
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    How many people have missed out on Hat In time exactly?
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      Please prove me wrong and suggest me some modern ones that stand up to the older ones.\n
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          You're...just objectively wrong then. A Hat in Time was one of the best platformers released in the past 10 years, and even if *you* don't like it you can't base the entire genre on your own opinion.\n
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          From what i'm gathering your issue is less that the genre is bad and more that there aren't a lot of "dark, gritty, realistic" platformers...which...there *never* was.\n
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          Like unless PS2 somehow had literally *all* of them *you haven't given examples other than ratchet and clank) You got Sonic and Mario in early 3D, Banjo Kazooie and DK 64 at the peak of early 3D, conker's bad fur day which is dark but also *extremely* cartoony...\n
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          Then you got platformers like Okami which again...cartoony. Goemon's 3D platformers and thats all cartoon\n
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          But like you're basically making a claim the entire genre currently is bad over an opinion of something that was never really that common to begin with.\n
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          edit: I even tried looking up platformers on PS2 and was greeted with Sly2, Rayman (did that have a 3d platformer?), psyconauts, Spongebob: BFBB\n
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          Like great games yeah, but the thing you're basing the entire topic on really seems to be a minority if your issue is a particular art style....
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          I mean, I won't say everything is better, but it's not exactly as bad as you're saying either.\n
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          How many people have missed out on Hat In time exactly?
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          3rd person shooters are *already* a small niche and that's without even including platformer!\n
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    Can't really work with this without examples. I don't think 3D platformer quality went down but I also think it's always been all over the place.\n
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    Like Hat in Time wasn't that long ago.\n
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    let's see...got a picture of "3D platformers in past 10 years"\n
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    <https://libreddit.kylrth.com/img/ad57oxhe2pfa1.png>\n
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    I'm looking at it and honestly I need examples as to where you think Ps2 beat out this list so blatantly that there's a clear issue.
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      Please prove me wrong and suggest me some modern ones that stand up to the older ones.\n
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      Also, why are there no 3rd person shooter/3D platformer hybrids aside from Ratchet &amp; Clank / Jak series? This seems like an untapped genre hybridisation that works well together. Like literally why is no one making games like this. I would love some examples of 3rd person shooter platformers to prove me wrong again.\n
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          You're...just objectively wrong then. A Hat in Time was one of the best platformers released in the past 10 years, and even if *you* don't like it you can't base the entire genre on your own opinion.\n
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          From what i'm gathering your issue is less that the genre is bad and more that there aren't a lot of "dark, gritty, realistic" platformers...which...there *never* was.\n
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          Like unless PS2 somehow had literally *all* of them *you haven't given examples other than ratchet and clank) You got Sonic and Mario in early 3D, Banjo Kazooie and DK 64 at the peak of early 3D, conker's bad fur day which is dark but also *extremely* cartoony...\n
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          Then you got platformers like Okami which again...cartoony. Goemon's 3D platformers and thats all cartoon\n
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          Like I'm basically trying to say more games in the platformer genre were cartoony than not throughout 3D platformer history and *we need more examples of what you really mean*\n
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          But like you're basically making a claim the entire genre currently is bad over an opinion of something that was never really that common to begin with.\n
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          edit: I even tried looking up platformers on PS2 and was greeted with Sly2, Rayman (did that have a 3d platformer?), psyconauts, Spongebob: BFBB\n
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          Like great games yeah, but the thing you're basing the entire topic on really seems to be a minority if your issue is a particular art style....
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          I mean, I won't say everything is better, but it's not exactly as bad as you're saying either.\n
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          Sure, 1000s of games are bad. 1000s of games were bad in the 90s and 2000s too. Bugsby 3D was allowed to exist.\n
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          OP isn't even able to say games back in the day were good as he has already bashed N64 and Gamecube (lame move btw, Goemon's Great Adventure I still play every year). He's very much just thinking of PS2.\n
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          How many people have missed out on Hat In time exactly?
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          3rd person shooters are *already* a small niche and that's without even including platformer!\n
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    Can't really work with this without examples. I don't think 3D platformer quality went down but I also think it's always been all over the place.\n
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    Like Hat in Time wasn't that long ago.\n
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    let's see...got a picture of "3D platformers in past 10 years"\n
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    I'm looking at it and honestly I need examples as to where you think Ps2 beat out this list so blatantly that there's a clear issue.
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      Please prove me wrong and suggest me some modern ones that stand up to the older ones.\n
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      Also, why are there no 3rd person shooter/3D platformer hybrids aside from Ratchet &amp; Clank / Jak series? This seems like an untapped genre hybridisation that works well together. Like literally why is no one making games like this. I would love some examples of 3rd person shooter platformers to prove me wrong again.\n
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          You're...just objectively wrong then. A Hat in Time was one of the best platformers released in the past 10 years, and even if *you* don't like it you can't base the entire genre on your own opinion.\n
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          From what i'm gathering your issue is less that the genre is bad and more that there aren't a lot of "dark, gritty, realistic" platformers...which...there *never* was.\n
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          Like unless PS2 somehow had literally *all* of them *you haven't given examples other than ratchet and clank) You got Sonic and Mario in early 3D, Banjo Kazooie and DK 64 at the peak of early 3D, conker's bad fur day which is dark but also *extremely* cartoony...\n
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          Then you got platformers like Okami which again...cartoony. Goemon's 3D platformers and thats all cartoon\n
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          But like you're basically making a claim the entire genre currently is bad over an opinion of something that was never really that common to begin with.\n
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          edit: I even tried looking up platformers on PS2 and was greeted with Sly2, Rayman (did that have a 3d platformer?), psyconauts, Spongebob: BFBB\n
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          Like great games yeah, but the thing you're basing the entire topic on really seems to be a minority if your issue is a particular art style....
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          I mean, I won't say everything is better, but it's not exactly as bad as you're saying either.\n
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          Sure, 1000s of games are bad. 1000s of games were bad in the 90s and 2000s too. Bugsby 3D was allowed to exist.\n
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          How many people have missed out on Hat In time exactly?
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          3rd person shooters are *already* a small niche and that's without even including platformer!\n
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    Like Hat in Time wasn't that long ago.\n
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    let's see...got a picture of "3D platformers in past 10 years"\n
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    I'm looking at it and honestly I need examples as to where you think Ps2 beat out this list so blatantly that there's a clear issue.
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          I mean, I won't say everything is better, but it's not exactly as bad as you're saying either.\n
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          Sure, 1000s of games are bad. 1000s of games were bad in the 90s and 2000s too. Bugsby 3D was allowed to exist.\n
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          Can't really work with this without examples. I don't think 3D platformer quality went down but I also think it's always been all over the place.\n
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          Like Hat in Time wasn't that long ago.\n
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          let's see...got a picture of "3D platformers in past 10 years"\n
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          3rd person shooters are *already* a small niche and that's without even including platformer!\n
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          You're...just objectively wrong then. A Hat in Time was one of the best platformers released in the past 10 years, and even if *you* don't like it you can't base the entire genre on your own opinion.\n
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          From what i'm gathering your issue is less that the genre is bad and more that there aren't a lot of "dark, gritty, realistic" platformers...which...there *never* was.\n
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          Like unless PS2 somehow had literally *all* of them *you haven't given examples other than ratchet and clank) You got Sonic and Mario in early 3D, Banjo Kazooie and DK 64 at the peak of early 3D, conker's bad fur day which is dark but also *extremely* cartoony...\n
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          Then you got platformers like Okami which again...cartoony. Goemon's 3D platformers and thats all cartoon\n
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          Like great games yeah, but the thing you're basing the entire topic on really seems to be a minority if your issue is a particular art style....
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          I mean, I won't say everything is better, but it's not exactly as bad as you're saying either.\n
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          Sure, 1000s of games are bad. 1000s of games were bad in the 90s and 2000s too. Bugsby 3D was allowed to exist.\n
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          How many people have missed out on Hat In time exactly?
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          Can't really work with this without examples. I don't think 3D platformer quality went down but I also think it's always been all over the place.\n
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          Like Hat in Time wasn't that long ago.\n
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          let's see...got a picture of "3D platformers in past 10 years"\n
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          I'm looking at it and honestly I need examples as to where you think Ps2 beat out this list so blatantly that there's a clear issue.
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          3rd person shooters are *already* a small niche and that's without even including platformer!\n
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          Nobody can figure out what you're saying because you're associating "good" with a *subgenre of a subgenre*
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      Please prove me wrong and suggest me some modern ones that stand up to the older ones.\n
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          You're...just objectively wrong then. A Hat in Time was one of the best platformers released in the past 10 years, and even if *you* don't like it you can't base the entire genre on your own opinion.\n
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          Like unless PS2 somehow had literally *all* of them *you haven't given examples other than ratchet and clank) You got Sonic and Mario in early 3D, Banjo Kazooie and DK 64 at the peak of early 3D, conker's bad fur day which is dark but also *extremely* cartoony...\n
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          But like you're basically making a claim the entire genre currently is bad over an opinion of something that was never really that common to begin with.\n
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          edit: I even tried looking up platformers on PS2 and was greeted with Sly2, Rayman (did that have a 3d platformer?), psyconauts, Spongebob: BFBB\n
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          I mean, I won't say everything is better, but it's not exactly as bad as you're saying either.\n
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          Sure, 1000s of games are bad. 1000s of games were bad in the 90s and 2000s too. Bugsby 3D was allowed to exist.\n
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          OP isn't even able to say games back in the day were good as he has already bashed N64 and Gamecube (lame move btw, Goemon's Great Adventure I still play every year). He's very much just thinking of PS2.\n
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          How many people have missed out on Hat In time exactly?
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          Can't really work with this without examples. I don't think 3D platformer quality went down but I also think it's always been all over the place.\n
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          Like Hat in Time wasn't that long ago.\n
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          let's see...got a picture of "3D platformers in past 10 years"\n
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          I'm looking at it and honestly I need examples as to where you think Ps2 beat out this list so blatantly that there's a clear issue.
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          3rd person shooters are *already* a small niche and that's without even including platformer!\n
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          Nobody can figure out what you're saying because you're associating "good" with a *subgenre of a subgenre*
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      Please prove me wrong and suggest me some modern ones that stand up to the older ones.\n
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          You're...just objectively wrong then. A Hat in Time was one of the best platformers released in the past 10 years, and even if *you* don't like it you can't base the entire genre on your own opinion.\n
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          Then you got platformers like Okami which again...cartoony. Goemon's 3D platformers and thats all cartoon\n
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          I mean, I won't say everything is better, but it's not exactly as bad as you're saying either.\n
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          Sure, 1000s of games are bad. 1000s of games were bad in the 90s and 2000s too. Bugsby 3D was allowed to exist.\n
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          How many people have missed out on Hat In time exactly?
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          Can't really work with this without examples. I don't think 3D platformer quality went down but I also think it's always been all over the place.\n
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          Like Hat in Time wasn't that long ago.\n
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          let's see...got a picture of "3D platformers in past 10 years"\n
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          I'm looking at it and honestly I need examples as to where you think Ps2 beat out this list so blatantly that there's a clear issue.
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          3rd person shooters are *already* a small niche and that's without even including platformer!\n
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          Nobody can figure out what you're saying because you're associating "good" with a *subgenre of a subgenre*
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      Please prove me wrong and suggest me some modern ones that stand up to the older ones.\n
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      Also, why are there no 3rd person shooter/3D platformer hybrids aside from Ratchet &amp; Clank / Jak series? This seems like an untapped genre hybridisation that works well together. Like literally why is no one making games like this. I would love some examples of 3rd person shooter platformers to prove me wrong again.\n
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          You're...just objectively wrong then. A Hat in Time was one of the best platformers released in the past 10 years, and even if *you* don't like it you can't base the entire genre on your own opinion.\n
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          From what i'm gathering your issue is less that the genre is bad and more that there aren't a lot of "dark, gritty, realistic" platformers...which...there *never* was.\n
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          Like unless PS2 somehow had literally *all* of them *you haven't given examples other than ratchet and clank) You got Sonic and Mario in early 3D, Banjo Kazooie and DK 64 at the peak of early 3D, conker's bad fur day which is dark but also *extremely* cartoony...\n
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          Then you got platformers like Okami which again...cartoony. Goemon's 3D platformers and thats all cartoon\n
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          But like you're basically making a claim the entire genre currently is bad over an opinion of something that was never really that common to begin with.\n
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          edit: I even tried looking up platformers on PS2 and was greeted with Sly2, Rayman (did that have a 3d platformer?), psyconauts, Spongebob: BFBB\n
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          Like great games yeah, but the thing you're basing the entire topic on really seems to be a minority if your issue is a particular art style....
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          I mean, I won't say everything is better, but it's not exactly as bad as you're saying either.\n
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          Sure, 1000s of games are bad. 1000s of games were bad in the 90s and 2000s too. Bugsby 3D was allowed to exist.\n
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          OP isn't even able to say games back in the day were good as he has already bashed N64 and Gamecube (lame move btw, Goemon's Great Adventure I still play every year). He's very much just thinking of PS2.\n
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          How many people have missed out on Hat In time exactly?
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          Can't really work with this without examples. I don't think 3D platformer quality went down but I also think it's always been all over the place.\n
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          Like Hat in Time wasn't that long ago.\n
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          let's see...got a picture of "3D platformers in past 10 years"\n
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          I'm looking at it and honestly I need examples as to where you think Ps2 beat out this list so blatantly that there's a clear issue.
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          3rd person shooters are *already* a small niche and that's without even including platformer!\n
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      Please prove me wrong and suggest me some modern ones that stand up to the older ones.\n
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          You're...just objectively wrong then. A Hat in Time was one of the best platformers released in the past 10 years, and even if *you* don't like it you can't base the entire genre on your own opinion.\n
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          From what i'm gathering your issue is less that the genre is bad and more that there aren't a lot of "dark, gritty, realistic" platformers...which...there *never* was.\n
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          Like unless PS2 somehow had literally *all* of them *you haven't given examples other than ratchet and clank) You got Sonic and Mario in early 3D, Banjo Kazooie and DK 64 at the peak of early 3D, conker's bad fur day which is dark but also *extremely* cartoony...\n
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          But like you're basically making a claim the entire genre currently is bad over an opinion of something that was never really that common to begin with.\n
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          edit: I even tried looking up platformers on PS2 and was greeted with Sly2, Rayman (did that have a 3d platformer?), psyconauts, Spongebob: BFBB\n
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          Like great games yeah, but the thing you're basing the entire topic on really seems to be a minority if your issue is a particular art style....
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          I mean, I won't say everything is better, but it's not exactly as bad as you're saying either.\n
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          Sure, 1000s of games are bad. 1000s of games were bad in the 90s and 2000s too. Bugsby 3D was allowed to exist.\n
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          How many people have missed out on Hat In time exactly?
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          Can't really work with this without examples. I don't think 3D platformer quality went down but I also think it's always been all over the place.\n
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          Like Hat in Time wasn't that long ago.\n
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          let's see...got a picture of "3D platformers in past 10 years"\n
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          I'm looking at it and honestly I need examples as to where you think Ps2 beat out this list so blatantly that there's a clear issue.
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      Please prove me wrong and suggest me some modern ones that stand up to the older ones.\n
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          You're...just objectively wrong then. A Hat in Time was one of the best platformers released in the past 10 years, and even if *you* don't like it you can't base the entire genre on your own opinion.\n
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          I mean, I won't say everything is better, but it's not exactly as bad as you're saying either.\n
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          Sure, 1000s of games are bad. 1000s of games were bad in the 90s and 2000s too. Bugsby 3D was allowed to exist.\n
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          How many people have missed out on Hat In time exactly?
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          Can't really work with this without examples. I don't think 3D platformer quality went down but I also think it's always been all over the place.\n
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          Like Hat in Time wasn't that long ago.\n
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          let's see...got a picture of "3D platformers in past 10 years"\n
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    3rd person shooters are *already* a small niche and that's without even including platformer!\n
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      Please prove me wrong and suggest me some modern ones that stand up to the older ones.\n
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      Also, why are there no 3rd person shooter/3D platformer hybrids aside from Ratchet &amp; Clank / Jak series? This seems like an untapped genre hybridisation that works well together. Like literally why is no one making games like this. I would love some examples of 3rd person shooter platformers to prove me wrong again.\n
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          You're...just objectively wrong then. A Hat in Time was one of the best platformers released in the past 10 years, and even if *you* don't like it you can't base the entire genre on your own opinion.\n
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          From what i'm gathering your issue is less that the genre is bad and more that there aren't a lot of "dark, gritty, realistic" platformers...which...there *never* was.\n
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          Like I'm basically trying to say more games in the platformer genre were cartoony than not throughout 3D platformer history and *we need more examples of what you really mean*\n
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          But like you're basically making a claim the entire genre currently is bad over an opinion of something that was never really that common to begin with.\n
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          edit: I even tried looking up platformers on PS2 and was greeted with Sly2, Rayman (did that have a 3d platformer?), psyconauts, Spongebob: BFBB\n
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          Like great games yeah, but the thing you're basing the entire topic on really seems to be a minority if your issue is a particular art style....
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          I mean, I won't say everything is better, but it's not exactly as bad as you're saying either.\n
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          Sure, 1000s of games are bad. 1000s of games were bad in the 90s and 2000s too. Bugsby 3D was allowed to exist.\n
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          How many people have missed out on Hat In time exactly?
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          Can't really work with this without examples. I don't think 3D platformer quality went down but I also think it's always been all over the place.\n
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          Like Hat in Time wasn't that long ago.\n
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          let's see...got a picture of "3D platformers in past 10 years"\n
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      Please prove me wrong and suggest me some modern ones that stand up to the older ones.\n
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          You're...just objectively wrong then. A Hat in Time was one of the best platformers released in the past 10 years, and even if *you* don't like it you can't base the entire genre on your own opinion.\n
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          I mean, I won't say everything is better, but it's not exactly as bad as you're saying either.\n
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          Sure, 1000s of games are bad. 1000s of games were bad in the 90s and 2000s too. Bugsby 3D was allowed to exist.\n
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          How many people have missed out on Hat In time exactly?
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          Can't really work with this without examples. I don't think 3D platformer quality went down but I also think it's always been all over the place.\n
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          Like Hat in Time wasn't that long ago.\n
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    [**My ex husband and his new wife made my daughter a back brace out of wood and steel and forced her to wear it.**](https://www.reddit.com/r/legaladvice/comments/4a97dq/my_ex_husband_and_his_new_wife_made_my_daughter_a/) - 13 March 2016\n
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    My daughter is nine and we share custody by alternating weeks. My daughter says her back hurts now and her arm is tingling. I have a doctors appointment for her on Monday and in the meantime I am trying to remain calm.\n
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    [**Update: My ex husband and his new wife made my daughter a back brace out of wood and steel and forced her to wear it (Florida)**](https://www.reddit.com/r/legaladvice/comments/4xbb4q/update_my_ex_husband_and_his_new_wife_made_my/) - 12 August 2016\n
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    Firstly I would like to thank everyone for all the support in my first post and all the supportive PM’s I received. It was really overwhelming (in a good way). A few people asked for an update so here it is.\n
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    Read the original [here](https://www.reddit.com//r/BestofRedditorUpdates/comments/yubmm1/my_ex_husband_and_his_new_wife_made_my_daughter_a/)
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      Firstly I would like to thank everyone for all the support in my first post and all the supportive PM’s I received. It was really overwhelming (in a good way). A few people asked for an update so here it is.\n
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      I confronted my ex-husband about it and all her would say was one text message where he says his new wife didn’t like how my daughter slouched at the dinner table. They aren’t doctors and there is nothing wrong with her that she needs a brace. I fucking want to kill both of them. Is there a way I can get a quick court date or see a judge because I don’t want her going back there. When we divorced it took a long time to figure out custody.\n
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      [**My ex husband and his new wife made my daughter a back brace out of wood and steel and forced her to wear it.**](https://www.reddit.com/r/legaladvice/comments/4a97dq/my_ex_husband_and_his_new_wife_made_my_daughter_a/) - 13 March 2016\n
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      My daughter is nine and we share custody by alternating weeks. My daughter says her back hurts now and her arm is tingling. I have a doctors appointment for her on Monday and in the meantime I am trying to remain calm.\n
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      [**Update: My ex husband and his new wife made my daughter a back brace out of wood and steel and forced her to wear it (Florida)**](https://www.reddit.com/r/legaladvice/comments/4xbb4q/update_my_ex_husband_and_his_new_wife_made_my/) - 12 August 2016\n
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      Firstly I would like to thank everyone for all the support in my first post and all the supportive PM’s I received. It was really overwhelming (in a good way). A few people asked for an update so here it is.\n
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      So a lot has happened since I first posted. I called in to work while I was trying to get all this sorted. One of my co-workers has a cousin who is a lawyer and she knew someone who was able to help me and file the paperwork. My husband played dumb in court but his visits got reduced to supervised and he was ordered to take a parenting class.\n
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      Read the original [here](https://www.reddit.com//r/BestofRedditorUpdates/comments/yubmm1/my_ex_husband_and_his_new_wife_made_my_daughter_a/)
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