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Security

Token

There is no security token.

Firewall

main Name
Security enabled
Stateless

Configuration

Key Value
provider security.user.provider.concrete.app_user_provider
context main
entry_point App\Security\KbinAuthenticator
user_checker App\Security\UserChecker
access_denied_handler (none)
access_denied_url (none)
authenticators
[
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  "remember_me"
  "App\Security\KbinAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\FacebookAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\GoogleAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\GithubAuthenticator"
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Listener Duration Response
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0.24 ms (none)
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0.03 ms (none)
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0.00 ms (none)
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}
0.00 ms (none)

Authenticators

No authenticators have been recorded. Check previous profiles on your authentication endpoint.

Access Decision

affirmative Strategy
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2
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3
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5
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7
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8
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11
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12
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13
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
14
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ACCESS ABSTAIN
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"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
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ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
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ACCESS ABSTAIN
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ACCESS ABSTAIN
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      \n
      Distributions include the Linux kernel and supporting system software and libraries, many of which are provided by the GNU Project. Many Linux distributions use the word “Linux” in their name, but the Free Software Foundation uses the name GNU/Linux to emphasize the importance of GNU software, causing some controversy.\n
      \n
      ### Rules\n
      \n
      - Posts must be relevant to operating systems running the Linux kernel. GNU/Linux or otherwise.\n
      - No misinformation\n
      - No NSFW content\n
      - No hate speech, bigotry, etc\n
      \n
      ### Related Communities\n
      \n
      - [!opensource@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/opensource)\n
      - [!libre_culture@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_culture)\n
      - [!technology@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/technology)\n
      - [!libre_hardware@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_hardware)\n
      \n
      Community icon by [Alpár-Etele Méder](https://www.iconfinder.com/pocike), licensed under [CC BY 3.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/)
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    While I think that 5h of battery life with yt videos running is ok for a t490 you could still try to recalibrate the battery with tlp.\n
    \n
    I have a t470s (has two internal batteries) where suddenly the performance of one of the batteries somehow got really bad. After calibration it works as good as before (upower says it’s at about 80%). I did the calibration in windows tho with Lenovo vantage as I’m still running a dual boot setup and didn’t know about tlp before.
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ACCESS DENIED
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ACCESS ABSTAIN
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ACCESS ABSTAIN
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ACCESS ABSTAIN
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ACCESS ABSTAIN
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ACCESS ABSTAIN
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ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
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      \n
      Distributions include the Linux kernel and supporting system software and libraries, many of which are provided by the GNU Project. Many Linux distributions use the word “Linux” in their name, but the Free Software Foundation uses the name GNU/Linux to emphasize the importance of GNU software, causing some controversy.\n
      \n
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      - No misinformation\n
      - No NSFW content\n
      - No hate speech, bigotry, etc\n
      \n
      ### Related Communities\n
      \n
      - [!opensource@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/opensource)\n
      - [!libre_culture@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_culture)\n
      - [!technology@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/technology)\n
      - [!libre_hardware@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_hardware)\n
      \n
      Community icon by [Alpár-Etele Méder](https://www.iconfinder.com/pocike), licensed under [CC BY 3.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/)
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    While I think that 5h of battery life with yt videos running is ok for a t490 you could still try to recalibrate the battery with tlp.\n
    \n
    I have a t470s (has two internal batteries) where suddenly the performance of one of the batteries somehow got really bad. After calibration it works as good as before (upower says it’s at about 80%). I did the calibration in windows tho with Lenovo vantage as I’m still running a dual boot setup and didn’t know about tlp before.
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ACCESS DENIED
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ACCESS ABSTAIN
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ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
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ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
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      From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia\n
      \n
      Linux is a family of open source Unix-like operating systems based on the Linux kernel, an operating system kernel first released on September 17, 1991 by Linus Torvalds. Linux is typically packaged in a Linux distribution (or distro for short).\n
      \n
      Distributions include the Linux kernel and supporting system software and libraries, many of which are provided by the GNU Project. Many Linux distributions use the word “Linux” in their name, but the Free Software Foundation uses the name GNU/Linux to emphasize the importance of GNU software, causing some controversy.\n
      \n
      ### Rules\n
      \n
      - Posts must be relevant to operating systems running the Linux kernel. GNU/Linux or otherwise.\n
      - No misinformation\n
      - No NSFW content\n
      - No hate speech, bigotry, etc\n
      \n
      ### Related Communities\n
      \n
      - [!opensource@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/opensource)\n
      - [!libre_culture@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_culture)\n
      - [!technology@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/technology)\n
      - [!libre_hardware@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_hardware)\n
      \n
      Community icon by [Alpár-Etele Méder](https://www.iconfinder.com/pocike), licensed under [CC BY 3.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/)
      """
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    While I think that 5h of battery life with yt videos running is ok for a t490 you could still try to recalibrate the battery with tlp.\n
    \n
    I have a t470s (has two internal batteries) where suddenly the performance of one of the batteries somehow got really bad. After calibration it works as good as before (upower says it’s at about 80%). I did the calibration in windows tho with Lenovo vantage as I’m still running a dual boot setup and didn’t know about tlp before.
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        > He did mention the murder of his wife and said he would detail his regret to anyone who asked.\n
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        This is true - I’m reacting more to the title than the content. It’s a very peculiar choice of words.\n
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      Well, no, neither approach is better than the other, it’s apples and oranges.\n
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    > I’m still grateful I don’t have to jump inside one every time I need to write a python script.\n
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    It’s not just noobs that appreciate flatpak. Flatpak is good all-round.\n
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        Debian is one of the distros where flatpaks are most appropriate lol, it’s the best way to not have programs that are really old\n
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            Debian is one of the distros where flatpaks are most appropriate lol, it’s the best way to not have programs that are really old\n
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            Adding weird third party repositories that can cause all kinds of issues probably isn’t the best idea
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        It’s not just noobs that appreciate flatpak. Flatpak is good all-round.\n
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        And the problem of Debian packages being old is very much not imaginary lol. Debian has only *just* moved beyond Gnome 3.38/Plasma 5.20/kernel version 5.10.\n
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        That’s ancient. And that’s not to mention the other software repos, which are often updated at an even slower pace.\n
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    I didn’t ignore anything.\n
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    And you don’t need to be so defensive. Nobody said Debian is bad or that you can’t use it to make money, just that it being severely outdated can be an issue, and it can. Flatpak helps, but it doesn’t completely fix it.\n
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            Debian is one of the distros where flatpaks are most appropriate lol, it’s the best way to not have programs that are really old\n
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            Adding weird third party repositories that can cause all kinds of issues probably isn’t the best idea
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        It’s not just noobs that appreciate flatpak. Flatpak is good all-round.\n
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        And the problem of Debian packages being old is very much not imaginary lol. Debian has only *just* moved beyond Gnome 3.38/Plasma 5.20/kernel version 5.10.\n
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        That’s ancient. And that’s not to mention the other software repos, which are often updated at an even slower pace.\n
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    +body: "you normally skip reading half of the comments you reply to, eh? :) ciao ciao from my debian system which does everything, including paying my rent and a bit more, w/o this shit ;)"
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    I didn’t ignore anything.\n
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    And you don’t need to be so defensive. Nobody said Debian is bad or that you can’t use it to make money, just that it being severely outdated can be an issue, and it can. Flatpak helps, but it doesn’t completely fix it.\n
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            Debian is one of the distros where flatpaks are most appropriate lol, it’s the best way to not have programs that are really old\n
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            Adding weird third party repositories that can cause all kinds of issues probably isn’t the best idea
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        It’s not just noobs that appreciate flatpak. Flatpak is good all-round.\n
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        And the problem of Debian packages being old is very much not imaginary lol. Debian has only *just* moved beyond Gnome 3.38/Plasma 5.20/kernel version 5.10.\n
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        That’s ancient. And that’s not to mention the other software repos, which are often updated at an even slower pace.\n
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    I didn’t ignore anything.\n
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    And you don’t need to be so defensive. Nobody said Debian is bad or that you can’t use it to make money, just that it being severely outdated can be an issue, and it can. Flatpak helps, but it doesn’t completely fix it.\n
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    My comment wasn’t meant to hurt your feelings.
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              Debian is one of the distros where flatpaks are most appropriate lol, it’s the best way to not have programs that are really old\n
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              Adding weird third party repositories that can cause all kinds of issues probably isn’t the best idea
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          It’s not just noobs that appreciate flatpak. Flatpak is good all-round.\n
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          And the problem of Debian packages being old is very much not imaginary lol. Debian has only *just* moved beyond Gnome 3.38/Plasma 5.20/kernel version 5.10.\n
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          That’s ancient. And that’s not to mention the other software repos, which are often updated at an even slower pace.\n
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      +body: "you normally skip reading half of the comments you reply to, eh? :) ciao ciao from my debian system which does everything, including paying my rent and a bit more, w/o this shit ;)"
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      I didn’t ignore anything.\n
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      And you don’t need to be so defensive. Nobody said Debian is bad or that you can’t use it to make money, just that it being severely outdated can be an issue, and it can. Flatpak helps, but it doesn’t completely fix it.\n
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              Debian is one of the distros where flatpaks are most appropriate lol, it’s the best way to not have programs that are really old\n
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              Adding weird third party repositories that can cause all kinds of issues probably isn’t the best idea
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          It’s not just noobs that appreciate flatpak. Flatpak is good all-round.\n
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          And the problem of Debian packages being old is very much not imaginary lol. Debian has only *just* moved beyond Gnome 3.38/Plasma 5.20/kernel version 5.10.\n
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          That’s ancient. And that’s not to mention the other software repos, which are often updated at an even slower pace.\n
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      +body: "you normally skip reading half of the comments you reply to, eh? :) ciao ciao from my debian system which does everything, including paying my rent and a bit more, w/o this shit ;)"
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      I didn’t ignore anything.\n
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      And you don’t need to be so defensive. Nobody said Debian is bad or that you can’t use it to make money, just that it being severely outdated can be an issue, and it can. Flatpak helps, but it doesn’t completely fix it.\n
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              Debian is one of the distros where flatpaks are most appropriate lol, it’s the best way to not have programs that are really old\n
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              Adding weird third party repositories that can cause all kinds of issues probably isn’t the best idea
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          It’s not just noobs that appreciate flatpak. Flatpak is good all-round.\n
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          And the problem of Debian packages being old is very much not imaginary lol. Debian has only *just* moved beyond Gnome 3.38/Plasma 5.20/kernel version 5.10.\n
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          That’s ancient. And that’s not to mention the other software repos, which are often updated at an even slower pace.\n
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          Don’t assume that just because you want extremely outdated packages, everyone else must want the same.
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      +body: "you normally skip reading half of the comments you reply to, eh? :) ciao ciao from my debian system which does everything, including paying my rent and a bit more, w/o this shit ;)"
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      I didn’t ignore anything.\n
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      And you don’t need to be so defensive. Nobody said Debian is bad or that you can’t use it to make money, just that it being severely outdated can be an issue, and it can. Flatpak helps, but it doesn’t completely fix it.\n
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                Debian is one of the distros where flatpaks are most appropriate lol, it’s the best way to not have programs that are really old\n
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                Adding weird third party repositories that can cause all kinds of issues probably isn’t the best idea
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            +body: "tbf, flatpaks are problematic shit noobs tend to appreciate because *reasons*. That said, beside the fact steam ships its own chroot, I’m a happy sid user and I don’t even have this imaginary problem of things being ‘very old’ sooo … but I can confirm you shouldn’t add weird third party repos or shitty flatpaks :)"
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            It’s not just noobs that appreciate flatpak. Flatpak is good all-round.\n
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            And the problem of Debian packages being old is very much not imaginary lol. Debian has only *just* moved beyond Gnome 3.38/Plasma 5.20/kernel version 5.10.\n
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            That’s ancient. And that’s not to mention the other software repos, which are often updated at an even slower pace.\n
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            Don’t assume that just because you want extremely outdated packages, everyone else must want the same.
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        +body: "you normally skip reading half of the comments you reply to, eh? :) ciao ciao from my debian system which does everything, including paying my rent and a bit more, w/o this shit ;)"
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        I didn’t ignore anything.\n
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        And you don’t need to be so defensive. Nobody said Debian is bad or that you can’t use it to make money, just that it being severely outdated can be an issue, and it can. Flatpak helps, but it doesn’t completely fix it.\n
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        My comment wasn’t meant to hurt your feelings.
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    I dunno, it sounds awfully defensive to me. It wasn’t meant to hurt you, it’s just a discussion about software packaging. There’s no personal attacks here.\n
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    I did read your comments, and despite trying to change the topic, create strawmen, and shout ad-hominems, it doesn’t change the fact that it’s reasonable to say Debian packages are often very, very old and outdated. Because they are.\n
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    That may not be an issue for you, but it is for many.\n
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    You shouldn’t let that make you upset, it doesn’t invalidate your use-case.
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                +body: "I use debian, I’m happy and definitely have no idea what you are talking about :)"
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                Debian is one of the distros where flatpaks are most appropriate lol, it’s the best way to not have programs that are really old\n
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                Adding weird third party repositories that can cause all kinds of issues probably isn’t the best idea
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            +body: "tbf, flatpaks are problematic shit noobs tend to appreciate because *reasons*. That said, beside the fact steam ships its own chroot, I’m a happy sid user and I don’t even have this imaginary problem of things being ‘very old’ sooo … but I can confirm you shouldn’t add weird third party repos or shitty flatpaks :)"
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            It’s not just noobs that appreciate flatpak. Flatpak is good all-round.\n
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            And the problem of Debian packages being old is very much not imaginary lol. Debian has only *just* moved beyond Gnome 3.38/Plasma 5.20/kernel version 5.10.\n
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            That’s ancient. And that’s not to mention the other software repos, which are often updated at an even slower pace.\n
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            Don’t assume that just because you want extremely outdated packages, everyone else must want the same.
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        +body: "you normally skip reading half of the comments you reply to, eh? :) ciao ciao from my debian system which does everything, including paying my rent and a bit more, w/o this shit ;)"
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        I didn’t ignore anything.\n
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        And you don’t need to be so defensive. Nobody said Debian is bad or that you can’t use it to make money, just that it being severely outdated can be an issue, and it can. Flatpak helps, but it doesn’t completely fix it.\n
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        My comment wasn’t meant to hurt your feelings.
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    +body: "lol I’m not defensive at all hahahaha rest assured my opinions aren’t changed by such a stupid zealot conversation, also this fact you don’t entirely read comments you’re replying about contibute to the lulz. Don’t react too bad to the money thing, one day or another you could also start working in this industry but if I could choose I’d go w/ dog training (I’m speaking for me, I’d really go that way). Cheers my friend"
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    I dunno, it sounds awfully defensive to me. It wasn’t meant to hurt you, it’s just a discussion about software packaging. There’s no personal attacks here.\n
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    I did read your comments, and despite trying to change the topic, create strawmen, and shout ad-hominems, it doesn’t change the fact that it’s reasonable to say Debian packages are often very, very old and outdated. Because they are.\n
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                Debian is one of the distros where flatpaks are most appropriate lol, it’s the best way to not have programs that are really old\n
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                Adding weird third party repositories that can cause all kinds of issues probably isn’t the best idea
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            It’s not just noobs that appreciate flatpak. Flatpak is good all-round.\n
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            That’s ancient. And that’s not to mention the other software repos, which are often updated at an even slower pace.\n
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        +body: "you normally skip reading half of the comments you reply to, eh? :) ciao ciao from my debian system which does everything, including paying my rent and a bit more, w/o this shit ;)"
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        I didn’t ignore anything.\n
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        And you don’t need to be so defensive. Nobody said Debian is bad or that you can’t use it to make money, just that it being severely outdated can be an issue, and it can. Flatpak helps, but it doesn’t completely fix it.\n
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        My comment wasn’t meant to hurt your feelings.
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    I dunno, it sounds awfully defensive to me. It wasn’t meant to hurt you, it’s just a discussion about software packaging. There’s no personal attacks here.\n
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    I did read your comments, and despite trying to change the topic, create strawmen, and shout ad-hominems, it doesn’t change the fact that it’s reasonable to say Debian packages are often very, very old and outdated. Because they are.\n
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    That may not be an issue for you, but it is for many.\n
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    You shouldn’t let that make you upset, it doesn’t invalidate your use-case.
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                  Debian is one of the distros where flatpaks are most appropriate lol, it’s the best way to not have programs that are really old\n
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              +body: "tbf, flatpaks are problematic shit noobs tend to appreciate because *reasons*. That said, beside the fact steam ships its own chroot, I’m a happy sid user and I don’t even have this imaginary problem of things being ‘very old’ sooo … but I can confirm you shouldn’t add weird third party repos or shitty flatpaks :)"
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              It’s not just noobs that appreciate flatpak. Flatpak is good all-round.\n
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              And the problem of Debian packages being old is very much not imaginary lol. Debian has only *just* moved beyond Gnome 3.38/Plasma 5.20/kernel version 5.10.\n
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              That’s ancient. And that’s not to mention the other software repos, which are often updated at an even slower pace.\n
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              Don’t assume that just because you want extremely outdated packages, everyone else must want the same.
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          +body: "you normally skip reading half of the comments you reply to, eh? :) ciao ciao from my debian system which does everything, including paying my rent and a bit more, w/o this shit ;)"
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          I didn’t ignore anything.\n
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          And you don’t need to be so defensive. Nobody said Debian is bad or that you can’t use it to make money, just that it being severely outdated can be an issue, and it can. Flatpak helps, but it doesn’t completely fix it.\n
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          My comment wasn’t meant to hurt your feelings.
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      +body: "lol I’m not defensive at all hahahaha rest assured my opinions aren’t changed by such a stupid zealot conversation, also this fact you don’t entirely read comments you’re replying about contibute to the lulz. Don’t react too bad to the money thing, one day or another you could also start working in this industry but if I could choose I’d go w/ dog training (I’m speaking for me, I’d really go that way). Cheers my friend"
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      I dunno, it sounds awfully defensive to me. It wasn’t meant to hurt you, it’s just a discussion about software packaging. There’s no personal attacks here.\n
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      I did read your comments, and despite trying to change the topic, create strawmen, and shout ad-hominems, it doesn’t change the fact that it’s reasonable to say Debian packages are often very, very old and outdated. Because they are.\n
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      That may not be an issue for you, but it is for many.\n
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      You shouldn’t let that make you upset, it doesn’t invalidate your use-case.
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                        +body: "Would be cool if they just straight up supported flatpaks. That’s been my main way of gaming for a couple years now, and it works great. The downside is that the folder structure is confusing so it makes things like modding pretty difficult."
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                      +body: "or, you know, you can use your distro packages"
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                  +body: "I use debian, I’m happy and definitely have no idea what you are talking about :)"
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                  Debian is one of the distros where flatpaks are most appropriate lol, it’s the best way to not have programs that are really old\n
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                  Adding weird third party repositories that can cause all kinds of issues probably isn’t the best idea
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              +body: "tbf, flatpaks are problematic shit noobs tend to appreciate because *reasons*. That said, beside the fact steam ships its own chroot, I’m a happy sid user and I don’t even have this imaginary problem of things being ‘very old’ sooo … but I can confirm you shouldn’t add weird third party repos or shitty flatpaks :)"
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              It’s not just noobs that appreciate flatpak. Flatpak is good all-round.\n
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              And the problem of Debian packages being old is very much not imaginary lol. Debian has only *just* moved beyond Gnome 3.38/Plasma 5.20/kernel version 5.10.\n
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              That’s ancient. And that’s not to mention the other software repos, which are often updated at an even slower pace.\n
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              Don’t assume that just because you want extremely outdated packages, everyone else must want the same.
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          +body: "you normally skip reading half of the comments you reply to, eh? :) ciao ciao from my debian system which does everything, including paying my rent and a bit more, w/o this shit ;)"
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          I didn’t ignore anything.\n
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          And you don’t need to be so defensive. Nobody said Debian is bad or that you can’t use it to make money, just that it being severely outdated can be an issue, and it can. Flatpak helps, but it doesn’t completely fix it.\n
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          My comment wasn’t meant to hurt your feelings.
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      +body: "lol I’m not defensive at all hahahaha rest assured my opinions aren’t changed by such a stupid zealot conversation, also this fact you don’t entirely read comments you’re replying about contibute to the lulz. Don’t react too bad to the money thing, one day or another you could also start working in this industry but if I could choose I’d go w/ dog training (I’m speaking for me, I’d really go that way). Cheers my friend"
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      I dunno, it sounds awfully defensive to me. It wasn’t meant to hurt you, it’s just a discussion about software packaging. There’s no personal attacks here.\n
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      I did read your comments, and despite trying to change the topic, create strawmen, and shout ad-hominems, it doesn’t change the fact that it’s reasonable to say Debian packages are often very, very old and outdated. Because they are.\n
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      That may not be an issue for you, but it is for many.\n
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      You shouldn’t let that make you upset, it doesn’t invalidate your use-case.
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  +body: "hahaha I swear to you that seeing you strain so hard to push your fallacies who knows where makes me laugh. Believe it or not, there remains a world of people out there laughing at those who use this garbage, and your social media woes will not, as usual, shift half an ounce of reality :) believe it or not, lemmy is not reality, outside those servers there is a real world :) but please, feel welcomed to keep supporting I don’t know what theory, you’re welcome, at least at this party :PP"
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                  Debian is one of the distros where flatpaks are most appropriate lol, it’s the best way to not have programs that are really old\n
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                  Adding weird third party repositories that can cause all kinds of issues probably isn’t the best idea
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              It’s not just noobs that appreciate flatpak. Flatpak is good all-round.\n
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              And the problem of Debian packages being old is very much not imaginary lol. Debian has only *just* moved beyond Gnome 3.38/Plasma 5.20/kernel version 5.10.\n
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              That’s ancient. And that’s not to mention the other software repos, which are often updated at an even slower pace.\n
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          I didn’t ignore anything.\n
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          And you don’t need to be so defensive. Nobody said Debian is bad or that you can’t use it to make money, just that it being severely outdated can be an issue, and it can. Flatpak helps, but it doesn’t completely fix it.\n
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      I dunno, it sounds awfully defensive to me. It wasn’t meant to hurt you, it’s just a discussion about software packaging. There’s no personal attacks here.\n
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      I did read your comments, and despite trying to change the topic, create strawmen, and shout ad-hominems, it doesn’t change the fact that it’s reasonable to say Debian packages are often very, very old and outdated. Because they are.\n
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      That may not be an issue for you, but it is for many.\n
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      You shouldn’t let that make you upset, it doesn’t invalidate your use-case.
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                    Debian is one of the distros where flatpaks are most appropriate lol, it’s the best way to not have programs that are really old\n
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                +body: "tbf, flatpaks are problematic shit noobs tend to appreciate because *reasons*. That said, beside the fact steam ships its own chroot, I’m a happy sid user and I don’t even have this imaginary problem of things being ‘very old’ sooo … but I can confirm you shouldn’t add weird third party repos or shitty flatpaks :)"
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                It’s not just noobs that appreciate flatpak. Flatpak is good all-round.\n
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                And the problem of Debian packages being old is very much not imaginary lol. Debian has only *just* moved beyond Gnome 3.38/Plasma 5.20/kernel version 5.10.\n
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                That’s ancient. And that’s not to mention the other software repos, which are often updated at an even slower pace.\n
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                Don’t assume that just because you want extremely outdated packages, everyone else must want the same.
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            +body: "you normally skip reading half of the comments you reply to, eh? :) ciao ciao from my debian system which does everything, including paying my rent and a bit more, w/o this shit ;)"
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            I didn’t ignore anything.\n
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            And you don’t need to be so defensive. Nobody said Debian is bad or that you can’t use it to make money, just that it being severely outdated can be an issue, and it can. Flatpak helps, but it doesn’t completely fix it.\n
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            My comment wasn’t meant to hurt your feelings.
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        +body: "lol I’m not defensive at all hahahaha rest assured my opinions aren’t changed by such a stupid zealot conversation, also this fact you don’t entirely read comments you’re replying about contibute to the lulz. Don’t react too bad to the money thing, one day or another you could also start working in this industry but if I could choose I’d go w/ dog training (I’m speaking for me, I’d really go that way). Cheers my friend"
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        I dunno, it sounds awfully defensive to me. It wasn’t meant to hurt you, it’s just a discussion about software packaging. There’s no personal attacks here.\n
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        I did read your comments, and despite trying to change the topic, create strawmen, and shout ad-hominems, it doesn’t change the fact that it’s reasonable to say Debian packages are often very, very old and outdated. Because they are.\n
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        That may not be an issue for you, but it is for many.\n
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        You shouldn’t let that make you upset, it doesn’t invalidate your use-case.
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                          +body: "Would be cool if they just straight up supported flatpaks. That’s been my main way of gaming for a couple years now, and it works great. The downside is that the folder structure is confusing so it makes things like modding pretty difficult."
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                    +body: "I use debian, I’m happy and definitely have no idea what you are talking about :)"
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                    Debian is one of the distros where flatpaks are most appropriate lol, it’s the best way to not have programs that are really old\n
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                    Adding weird third party repositories that can cause all kinds of issues probably isn’t the best idea
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                +body: "tbf, flatpaks are problematic shit noobs tend to appreciate because *reasons*. That said, beside the fact steam ships its own chroot, I’m a happy sid user and I don’t even have this imaginary problem of things being ‘very old’ sooo … but I can confirm you shouldn’t add weird third party repos or shitty flatpaks :)"
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                It’s not just noobs that appreciate flatpak. Flatpak is good all-round.\n
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                And the problem of Debian packages being old is very much not imaginary lol. Debian has only *just* moved beyond Gnome 3.38/Plasma 5.20/kernel version 5.10.\n
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                That’s ancient. And that’s not to mention the other software repos, which are often updated at an even slower pace.\n
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                Don’t assume that just because you want extremely outdated packages, everyone else must want the same.
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            +body: "you normally skip reading half of the comments you reply to, eh? :) ciao ciao from my debian system which does everything, including paying my rent and a bit more, w/o this shit ;)"
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            I didn’t ignore anything.\n
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            And you don’t need to be so defensive. Nobody said Debian is bad or that you can’t use it to make money, just that it being severely outdated can be an issue, and it can. Flatpak helps, but it doesn’t completely fix it.\n
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            My comment wasn’t meant to hurt your feelings.
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        +body: "lol I’m not defensive at all hahahaha rest assured my opinions aren’t changed by such a stupid zealot conversation, also this fact you don’t entirely read comments you’re replying about contibute to the lulz. Don’t react too bad to the money thing, one day or another you could also start working in this industry but if I could choose I’d go w/ dog training (I’m speaking for me, I’d really go that way). Cheers my friend"
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        I dunno, it sounds awfully defensive to me. It wasn’t meant to hurt you, it’s just a discussion about software packaging. There’s no personal attacks here.\n
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        I did read your comments, and despite trying to change the topic, create strawmen, and shout ad-hominems, it doesn’t change the fact that it’s reasonable to say Debian packages are often very, very old and outdated. Because they are.\n
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        That may not be an issue for you, but it is for many.\n
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        You shouldn’t let that make you upset, it doesn’t invalidate your use-case.
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    +body: "hahaha I swear to you that seeing you strain so hard to push your fallacies who knows where makes me laugh. Believe it or not, there remains a world of people out there laughing at those who use this garbage, and your social media woes will not, as usual, shift half an ounce of reality :) believe it or not, lemmy is not reality, outside those servers there is a real world :) but please, feel welcomed to keep supporting I don’t know what theory, you’re welcome, at least at this party :PP"
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                    Debian is one of the distros where flatpaks are most appropriate lol, it’s the best way to not have programs that are really old\n
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                    Adding weird third party repositories that can cause all kinds of issues probably isn’t the best idea
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                It’s not just noobs that appreciate flatpak. Flatpak is good all-round.\n
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                And the problem of Debian packages being old is very much not imaginary lol. Debian has only *just* moved beyond Gnome 3.38/Plasma 5.20/kernel version 5.10.\n
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                That’s ancient. And that’s not to mention the other software repos, which are often updated at an even slower pace.\n
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            I didn’t ignore anything.\n
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            And you don’t need to be so defensive. Nobody said Debian is bad or that you can’t use it to make money, just that it being severely outdated can be an issue, and it can. Flatpak helps, but it doesn’t completely fix it.\n
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            My comment wasn’t meant to hurt your feelings.
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        +body: "lol I’m not defensive at all hahahaha rest assured my opinions aren’t changed by such a stupid zealot conversation, also this fact you don’t entirely read comments you’re replying about contibute to the lulz. Don’t react too bad to the money thing, one day or another you could also start working in this industry but if I could choose I’d go w/ dog training (I’m speaking for me, I’d really go that way). Cheers my friend"
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        I dunno, it sounds awfully defensive to me. It wasn’t meant to hurt you, it’s just a discussion about software packaging. There’s no personal attacks here.\n
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        I did read your comments, and despite trying to change the topic, create strawmen, and shout ad-hominems, it doesn’t change the fact that it’s reasonable to say Debian packages are often very, very old and outdated. Because they are.\n
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        That may not be an issue for you, but it is for many.\n
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        You shouldn’t let that make you upset, it doesn’t invalidate your use-case.
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                      +body: "I use debian, I’m happy and definitely have no idea what you are talking about :)"
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                      Debian is one of the distros where flatpaks are most appropriate lol, it’s the best way to not have programs that are really old\n
                      \n
                      Adding weird third party repositories that can cause all kinds of issues probably isn’t the best idea
                      """
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                  +body: "tbf, flatpaks are problematic shit noobs tend to appreciate because *reasons*. That said, beside the fact steam ships its own chroot, I’m a happy sid user and I don’t even have this imaginary problem of things being ‘very old’ sooo … but I can confirm you shouldn’t add weird third party repos or shitty flatpaks :)"
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                  It’s not just noobs that appreciate flatpak. Flatpak is good all-round.\n
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                  And the problem of Debian packages being old is very much not imaginary lol. Debian has only *just* moved beyond Gnome 3.38/Plasma 5.20/kernel version 5.10.\n
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                  That’s ancient. And that’s not to mention the other software repos, which are often updated at an even slower pace.\n
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                  Don’t assume that just because you want extremely outdated packages, everyone else must want the same.
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              +body: "you normally skip reading half of the comments you reply to, eh? :) ciao ciao from my debian system which does everything, including paying my rent and a bit more, w/o this shit ;)"
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              I didn’t ignore anything.\n
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              And you don’t need to be so defensive. Nobody said Debian is bad or that you can’t use it to make money, just that it being severely outdated can be an issue, and it can. Flatpak helps, but it doesn’t completely fix it.\n
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              My comment wasn’t meant to hurt your feelings.
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          +body: "lol I’m not defensive at all hahahaha rest assured my opinions aren’t changed by such a stupid zealot conversation, also this fact you don’t entirely read comments you’re replying about contibute to the lulz. Don’t react too bad to the money thing, one day or another you could also start working in this industry but if I could choose I’d go w/ dog training (I’m speaking for me, I’d really go that way). Cheers my friend"
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          I dunno, it sounds awfully defensive to me. It wasn’t meant to hurt you, it’s just a discussion about software packaging. There’s no personal attacks here.\n
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          I did read your comments, and despite trying to change the topic, create strawmen, and shout ad-hominems, it doesn’t change the fact that it’s reasonable to say Debian packages are often very, very old and outdated. Because they are.\n
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          That may not be an issue for you, but it is for many.\n
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          You shouldn’t let that make you upset, it doesn’t invalidate your use-case.
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      +body: "hahaha I swear to you that seeing you strain so hard to push your fallacies who knows where makes me laugh. Believe it or not, there remains a world of people out there laughing at those who use this garbage, and your social media woes will not, as usual, shift half an ounce of reality :) believe it or not, lemmy is not reality, outside those servers there is a real world :) but please, feel welcomed to keep supporting I don’t know what theory, you’re welcome, at least at this party :PP"
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  +body: "I don’t know man, the important thing is that you stay calm while I continue to mind my own business. Say hello to the computer vegans from me, and ofc stay hydrated :P and please, PLEASE, do not mumble 3h again your next response sweetie &lt;3"
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                      +body: "I use debian, I’m happy and definitely have no idea what you are talking about :)"
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                      Debian is one of the distros where flatpaks are most appropriate lol, it’s the best way to not have programs that are really old\n
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                      Adding weird third party repositories that can cause all kinds of issues probably isn’t the best idea
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                  +body: "tbf, flatpaks are problematic shit noobs tend to appreciate because *reasons*. That said, beside the fact steam ships its own chroot, I’m a happy sid user and I don’t even have this imaginary problem of things being ‘very old’ sooo … but I can confirm you shouldn’t add weird third party repos or shitty flatpaks :)"
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                  It’s not just noobs that appreciate flatpak. Flatpak is good all-round.\n
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                  And the problem of Debian packages being old is very much not imaginary lol. Debian has only *just* moved beyond Gnome 3.38/Plasma 5.20/kernel version 5.10.\n
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                  That’s ancient. And that’s not to mention the other software repos, which are often updated at an even slower pace.\n
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                  Don’t assume that just because you want extremely outdated packages, everyone else must want the same.
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              +body: "you normally skip reading half of the comments you reply to, eh? :) ciao ciao from my debian system which does everything, including paying my rent and a bit more, w/o this shit ;)"
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              I didn’t ignore anything.\n
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              And you don’t need to be so defensive. Nobody said Debian is bad or that you can’t use it to make money, just that it being severely outdated can be an issue, and it can. Flatpak helps, but it doesn’t completely fix it.\n
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              My comment wasn’t meant to hurt your feelings.
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          +body: "lol I’m not defensive at all hahahaha rest assured my opinions aren’t changed by such a stupid zealot conversation, also this fact you don’t entirely read comments you’re replying about contibute to the lulz. Don’t react too bad to the money thing, one day or another you could also start working in this industry but if I could choose I’d go w/ dog training (I’m speaking for me, I’d really go that way). Cheers my friend"
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          I dunno, it sounds awfully defensive to me. It wasn’t meant to hurt you, it’s just a discussion about software packaging. There’s no personal attacks here.\n
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          I did read your comments, and despite trying to change the topic, create strawmen, and shout ad-hominems, it doesn’t change the fact that it’s reasonable to say Debian packages are often very, very old and outdated. Because they are.\n
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          That may not be an issue for you, but it is for many.\n
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          You shouldn’t let that make you upset, it doesn’t invalidate your use-case.
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      +body: "hahaha I swear to you that seeing you strain so hard to push your fallacies who knows where makes me laugh. Believe it or not, there remains a world of people out there laughing at those who use this garbage, and your social media woes will not, as usual, shift half an ounce of reality :) believe it or not, lemmy is not reality, outside those servers there is a real world :) but please, feel welcomed to keep supporting I don’t know what theory, you’re welcome, at least at this party :PP"
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                      Debian is one of the distros where flatpaks are most appropriate lol, it’s the best way to not have programs that are really old\n
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                      Adding weird third party repositories that can cause all kinds of issues probably isn’t the best idea
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                  +body: "tbf, flatpaks are problematic shit noobs tend to appreciate because *reasons*. That said, beside the fact steam ships its own chroot, I’m a happy sid user and I don’t even have this imaginary problem of things being ‘very old’ sooo … but I can confirm you shouldn’t add weird third party repos or shitty flatpaks :)"
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                  It’s not just noobs that appreciate flatpak. Flatpak is good all-round.\n
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                  And the problem of Debian packages being old is very much not imaginary lol. Debian has only *just* moved beyond Gnome 3.38/Plasma 5.20/kernel version 5.10.\n
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                  That’s ancient. And that’s not to mention the other software repos, which are often updated at an even slower pace.\n
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                  Don’t assume that just because you want extremely outdated packages, everyone else must want the same.
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              +body: "you normally skip reading half of the comments you reply to, eh? :) ciao ciao from my debian system which does everything, including paying my rent and a bit more, w/o this shit ;)"
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              I didn’t ignore anything.\n
              \n
              And you don’t need to be so defensive. Nobody said Debian is bad or that you can’t use it to make money, just that it being severely outdated can be an issue, and it can. Flatpak helps, but it doesn’t completely fix it.\n
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              My comment wasn’t meant to hurt your feelings.
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          +body: "lol I’m not defensive at all hahahaha rest assured my opinions aren’t changed by such a stupid zealot conversation, also this fact you don’t entirely read comments you’re replying about contibute to the lulz. Don’t react too bad to the money thing, one day or another you could also start working in this industry but if I could choose I’d go w/ dog training (I’m speaking for me, I’d really go that way). Cheers my friend"
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          I dunno, it sounds awfully defensive to me. It wasn’t meant to hurt you, it’s just a discussion about software packaging. There’s no personal attacks here.\n
          \n
          I did read your comments, and despite trying to change the topic, create strawmen, and shout ad-hominems, it doesn’t change the fact that it’s reasonable to say Debian packages are often very, very old and outdated. Because they are.\n
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          That may not be an issue for you, but it is for many.\n
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          You shouldn’t let that make you upset, it doesn’t invalidate your use-case.
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      +body: "hahaha I swear to you that seeing you strain so hard to push your fallacies who knows where makes me laugh. Believe it or not, there remains a world of people out there laughing at those who use this garbage, and your social media woes will not, as usual, shift half an ounce of reality :) believe it or not, lemmy is not reality, outside those servers there is a real world :) but please, feel welcomed to keep supporting I don’t know what theory, you’re welcome, at least at this party :PP"
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  +body: "I don’t know man, the important thing is that you stay calm while I continue to mind my own business. Say hello to the computer vegans from me, and ofc stay hydrated :P and please, PLEASE, do not mumble 3h again your next response sweetie &lt;3"
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          Debian is one of the distros where flatpaks are most appropriate lol, it’s the best way to not have programs that are really old\n
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      It’s not just noobs that appreciate flatpak. Flatpak is good all-round.\n
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    I don’t mind the old packages (I’m typing from Debian Stable right now). If that’s a bother for other people Debian Stable isn’t the way to go. Even I wouldn’t recommend Stable on a desktop/laptop unless that person knew what they were getting themselves into. I used to run Sid a while back, but didn’t want to have to deal with the mild breakage from time to time. Generally speaking it’s “stable enough” for most people, especially on a daily driver.\n
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          Debian is one of the distros where flatpaks are most appropriate lol, it’s the best way to not have programs that are really old\n
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      It’s not just noobs that appreciate flatpak. Flatpak is good all-round.\n
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    I don’t mind the old packages (I’m typing from Debian Stable right now). If that’s a bother for other people Debian Stable isn’t the way to go. Even I wouldn’t recommend Stable on a desktop/laptop unless that person knew what they were getting themselves into. I used to run Sid a while back, but didn’t want to have to deal with the mild breakage from time to time. Generally speaking it’s “stable enough” for most people, especially on a daily driver.\n
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            Debian is one of the distros where flatpaks are most appropriate lol, it’s the best way to not have programs that are really old\n
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        It’s not just noobs that appreciate flatpak. Flatpak is good all-round.\n
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        And the problem of Debian packages being old is very much not imaginary lol. Debian has only *just* moved beyond Gnome 3.38/Plasma 5.20/kernel version 5.10.\n
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        That’s ancient. And that’s not to mention the other software repos, which are often updated at an even slower pace.\n
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      I don’t mind the old packages (I’m typing from Debian Stable right now). If that’s a bother for other people Debian Stable isn’t the way to go. Even I wouldn’t recommend Stable on a desktop/laptop unless that person knew what they were getting themselves into. I used to run Sid a while back, but didn’t want to have to deal with the mild breakage from time to time. Generally speaking it’s “stable enough” for most people, especially on a daily driver.\n
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    Yeah. And if it works for you, it’s good. I have a headless Debian home server running in my house right now.\n
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            Debian is one of the distros where flatpaks are most appropriate lol, it’s the best way to not have programs that are really old\n
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        It’s not just noobs that appreciate flatpak. Flatpak is good all-round.\n
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        And the problem of Debian packages being old is very much not imaginary lol. Debian has only *just* moved beyond Gnome 3.38/Plasma 5.20/kernel version 5.10.\n
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        That’s ancient. And that’s not to mention the other software repos, which are often updated at an even slower pace.\n
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      I don’t mind the old packages (I’m typing from Debian Stable right now). If that’s a bother for other people Debian Stable isn’t the way to go. Even I wouldn’t recommend Stable on a desktop/laptop unless that person knew what they were getting themselves into. I used to run Sid a while back, but didn’t want to have to deal with the mild breakage from time to time. Generally speaking it’s “stable enough” for most people, especially on a daily driver.\n
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    Yeah. And if it works for you, it’s good. I have a headless Debian home server running in my house right now.\n
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            Debian is one of the distros where flatpaks are most appropriate lol, it’s the best way to not have programs that are really old\n
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            Adding weird third party repositories that can cause all kinds of issues probably isn’t the best idea
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        It’s not just noobs that appreciate flatpak. Flatpak is good all-round.\n
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        And the problem of Debian packages being old is very much not imaginary lol. Debian has only *just* moved beyond Gnome 3.38/Plasma 5.20/kernel version 5.10.\n
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        That’s ancient. And that’s not to mention the other software repos, which are often updated at an even slower pace.\n
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      I don’t mind the old packages (I’m typing from Debian Stable right now). If that’s a bother for other people Debian Stable isn’t the way to go. Even I wouldn’t recommend Stable on a desktop/laptop unless that person knew what they were getting themselves into. I used to run Sid a while back, but didn’t want to have to deal with the mild breakage from time to time. Generally speaking it’s “stable enough” for most people, especially on a daily driver.\n
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    Yeah. And if it works for you, it’s good. I have a headless Debian home server running in my house right now.\n
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              Debian is one of the distros where flatpaks are most appropriate lol, it’s the best way to not have programs that are really old\n
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          It’s not just noobs that appreciate flatpak. Flatpak is good all-round.\n
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          And the problem of Debian packages being old is very much not imaginary lol. Debian has only *just* moved beyond Gnome 3.38/Plasma 5.20/kernel version 5.10.\n
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          That’s ancient. And that’s not to mention the other software repos, which are often updated at an even slower pace.\n
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        I don’t mind the old packages (I’m typing from Debian Stable right now). If that’s a bother for other people Debian Stable isn’t the way to go. Even I wouldn’t recommend Stable on a desktop/laptop unless that person knew what they were getting themselves into. I used to run Sid a while back, but didn’t want to have to deal with the mild breakage from time to time. Generally speaking it’s “stable enough” for most people, especially on a daily driver.\n
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      Yeah. And if it works for you, it’s good. I have a headless Debian home server running in my house right now.\n
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              Debian is one of the distros where flatpaks are most appropriate lol, it’s the best way to not have programs that are really old\n
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          It’s not just noobs that appreciate flatpak. Flatpak is good all-round.\n
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          And the problem of Debian packages being old is very much not imaginary lol. Debian has only *just* moved beyond Gnome 3.38/Plasma 5.20/kernel version 5.10.\n
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          That’s ancient. And that’s not to mention the other software repos, which are often updated at an even slower pace.\n
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        I don’t mind the old packages (I’m typing from Debian Stable right now). If that’s a bother for other people Debian Stable isn’t the way to go. Even I wouldn’t recommend Stable on a desktop/laptop unless that person knew what they were getting themselves into. I used to run Sid a while back, but didn’t want to have to deal with the mild breakage from time to time. Generally speaking it’s “stable enough” for most people, especially on a daily driver.\n
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      Yeah. And if it works for you, it’s good. I have a headless Debian home server running in my house right now.\n
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              Debian is one of the distros where flatpaks are most appropriate lol, it’s the best way to not have programs that are really old\n
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              Adding weird third party repositories that can cause all kinds of issues probably isn’t the best idea
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          It’s not just noobs that appreciate flatpak. Flatpak is good all-round.\n
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          And the problem of Debian packages being old is very much not imaginary lol. Debian has only *just* moved beyond Gnome 3.38/Plasma 5.20/kernel version 5.10.\n
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          That’s ancient. And that’s not to mention the other software repos, which are often updated at an even slower pace.\n
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        I don’t mind the old packages (I’m typing from Debian Stable right now). If that’s a bother for other people Debian Stable isn’t the way to go. Even I wouldn’t recommend Stable on a desktop/laptop unless that person knew what they were getting themselves into. I used to run Sid a while back, but didn’t want to have to deal with the mild breakage from time to time. Generally speaking it’s “stable enough” for most people, especially on a daily driver.\n
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      Yeah. And if it works for you, it’s good. I have a headless Debian home server running in my house right now.\n
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                Debian is one of the distros where flatpaks are most appropriate lol, it’s the best way to not have programs that are really old\n
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                Adding weird third party repositories that can cause all kinds of issues probably isn’t the best idea
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            +body: "tbf, flatpaks are problematic shit noobs tend to appreciate because *reasons*. That said, beside the fact steam ships its own chroot, I’m a happy sid user and I don’t even have this imaginary problem of things being ‘very old’ sooo … but I can confirm you shouldn’t add weird third party repos or shitty flatpaks :)"
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            It’s not just noobs that appreciate flatpak. Flatpak is good all-round.\n
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            And the problem of Debian packages being old is very much not imaginary lol. Debian has only *just* moved beyond Gnome 3.38/Plasma 5.20/kernel version 5.10.\n
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            That’s ancient. And that’s not to mention the other software repos, which are often updated at an even slower pace.\n
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            Don’t assume that just because you want extremely outdated packages, everyone else must want the same.
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          I don’t mind the old packages (I’m typing from Debian Stable right now). If that’s a bother for other people Debian Stable isn’t the way to go. Even I wouldn’t recommend Stable on a desktop/laptop unless that person knew what they were getting themselves into. I used to run Sid a while back, but didn’t want to have to deal with the mild breakage from time to time. Generally speaking it’s “stable enough” for most people, especially on a daily driver.\n
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        Yeah. And if it works for you, it’s good. I have a headless Debian home server running in my house right now.\n
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                Debian is one of the distros where flatpaks are most appropriate lol, it’s the best way to not have programs that are really old\n
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                Adding weird third party repositories that can cause all kinds of issues probably isn’t the best idea
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            It’s not just noobs that appreciate flatpak. Flatpak is good all-round.\n
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            And the problem of Debian packages being old is very much not imaginary lol. Debian has only *just* moved beyond Gnome 3.38/Plasma 5.20/kernel version 5.10.\n
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            That’s ancient. And that’s not to mention the other software repos, which are often updated at an even slower pace.\n
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          I don’t mind the old packages (I’m typing from Debian Stable right now). If that’s a bother for other people Debian Stable isn’t the way to go. Even I wouldn’t recommend Stable on a desktop/laptop unless that person knew what they were getting themselves into. I used to run Sid a while back, but didn’t want to have to deal with the mild breakage from time to time. Generally speaking it’s “stable enough” for most people, especially on a daily driver.\n
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        Yeah. And if it works for you, it’s good. I have a headless Debian home server running in my house right now.\n
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                Debian is one of the distros where flatpaks are most appropriate lol, it’s the best way to not have programs that are really old\n
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            It’s not just noobs that appreciate flatpak. Flatpak is good all-round.\n
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