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Yeah, and it’s a big market… all 6% of it.\n
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My point was, systemd is not the only init system, there are others. Just because it’s used by over 90% of the Linux distros out there, doesn’t mean it’s the only one, thus offering a solution that is tied to systemd is not exactly a solution. Grub already has it figured out, why complicate things further.
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> No, most popular Linux distros have every GUI app you need to do your office work. What do you need? Office suite, file manager and browser? Check, check, check. Moreover, you don’t have any office preinstalled on Windows and you even have to buy it (and the OS itself), or create a Microsoft account and use online, feature- and Internet-limited version.\n
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Yes, but have you looked at how LibreOffice looks? It looks like MS Office 1997-2003. Personally, I love that, but ask any MS Office user out there that’s not into tech and just wants to get the job done, you’ll always get the same answer, MS Office post 2007 with the ribbon interface is a lot better. People are used to that. If they’d have to chose between spending a little money and learning something new, guess what, they choose spending a little money. I know, it baffles me as well, but numbers don’t lie.\n
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And they usually see the whole MS account tied with office stuff thing as a feature, not as a drawback. Sure, they don’t get to use all the tools that the sute can offer, but who needs calcs in spreadsheets or math equations in a text editor anyway, that’s for geeks 😒.\n
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Basically, if they can write a few words and insert an image here and there, that’s more than enough for most people’s needs. Sure, they pay for that, which they can get for free, but you don’t see LibreOffice ads in Windows, do you 🤷.\n
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> Side note. You don’t always need the support, and the packages themselves can and do become available on other platforms. AUR and Nix repositories are the largest ones that have community-created packages that only available on Ubuntu or Fedora, etc.\n
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Thay is what I actually meant, we kinda troubleshoot our own packages, even if they’re repackaged from a closed source deb/rpm. If the dependencies are there and compiled against whatever is needed for the package to run, I don’t really see a reason not to offer support for other distros, or at least make a subforum or whatever for those that want to repackage stuff for other distros, so they can at least gather in one place and discuss issues regarding repackaging, with some guidelines> from the support staff of the product. But unfortunatelly, that’s rarely the case, that was my point.
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[launchpad.net/grub-customizer/](https://launchpad.net/grub-customizer/)\n
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I think that GH repo is just for reference… or maybe they (whoever made it) stopped syncing it to the main repo, IDK. 5.2.4 is the latest version and it’s released late 2023, so yeah, it’s still under active development.
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They want even those power users that are used to tweaking the OS to not tweak the OS and just get used to the new defaults (whatever they might be). A perfect example being no thin taskbar in Win11. Why? IDK, you tell me 🤷. Not everyone has a FullHD monitor (I don’t), but hey, maybe you need to buy a new one 😒. Consumerism maybe behind this, but I can’t be certain.\n
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In any case, most users will eventually get accustomed to the new defaults. Very few users will say “f this” and switch to another OS and they don’t actually care about those users, cuz they would have switched eventually anyway (if it wasn’t for this, some other thing most probably).
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Really? I think it shows the files as locked, but you can actually do whatever in root 🤔.\n
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In either case, it’s just more painless to actually let it boot all the way than to interrupt the boot process.
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> Everything just boils down that Windows was pre installed on such a huge amount of machines that “you have to be tech savvy” or whatever to use Linux.\n
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Yes, I would agree that having Windows preinstalled on almost every brand name PC/laptop there is out there is the main reason why things are what they are.\n
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But, I’d also argue that, from your everyday user’s stand point, Windows is a lot easier to get office work done. Everything is pretty much GUI based, there is no terminal in Windows (cmd and PowerShell are not the terminal, you can’t do everything you can in a GUI in the cmd or in PowerShell, and vice versa, so it’s not the same), so from a regular user’s perspective, things are simpler.\n
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> And the fact that no one wants to install anything that wasn’t installed the first time, makes it that much harder to switch to Linux.\n
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Why bother changing something that works and gets the job done 🤷… plus, they gotta learn new things if they did that, why make their lives harder.\n
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Not everyone cares about libre software… or even know it exists.\n
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> But I believe that we all are slowly spreading the word of Linux more and more with each year. We definitely will have a year of Linux for sure (eventually).\n
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If this does happen, this won’t be within a year, it will be within several years (or a decade).\n
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But, I do agree that there are changes in a positive direction. Most software products (slosed source ones) now have at least a Debian/Ubuntu .deb package (which wasn’t the case 10 years ago, which wasn’t that long ago) and even do customer support for Linux (but only limited to that particular flavor of Linux which they provide the packages for… not an ideal scenario, but it’s not bad either).\n
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So, yeah, I’m optimistic, but not too much. It might eventually happen, but not in the near future IMO.
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Yeah, and it’s a big market… all 6% of it.\n
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My point was, systemd is not the only init system, there are others. Just because it’s used by over 90% of the Linux distros out there, doesn’t mean it’s the only one, thus offering a solution that is tied to systemd is not exactly a solution. Grub already has it figured out, why complicate things further.
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> No, most popular Linux distros have every GUI app you need to do your office work. What do you need? Office suite, file manager and browser? Check, check, check. Moreover, you don’t have any office preinstalled on Windows and you even have to buy it (and the OS itself), or create a Microsoft account and use online, feature- and Internet-limited version.\n
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Yes, but have you looked at how LibreOffice looks? It looks like MS Office 1997-2003. Personally, I love that, but ask any MS Office user out there that’s not into tech and just wants to get the job done, you’ll always get the same answer, MS Office post 2007 with the ribbon interface is a lot better. People are used to that. If they’d have to chose between spending a little money and learning something new, guess what, they choose spending a little money. I know, it baffles me as well, but numbers don’t lie.\n
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And they usually see the whole MS account tied with office stuff thing as a feature, not as a drawback. Sure, they don’t get to use all the tools that the sute can offer, but who needs calcs in spreadsheets or math equations in a text editor anyway, that’s for geeks 😒.\n
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Basically, if they can write a few words and insert an image here and there, that’s more than enough for most people’s needs. Sure, they pay for that, which they can get for free, but you don’t see LibreOffice ads in Windows, do you 🤷.\n
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> Side note. You don’t always need the support, and the packages themselves can and do become available on other platforms. AUR and Nix repositories are the largest ones that have community-created packages that only available on Ubuntu or Fedora, etc.\n
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Thay is what I actually meant, we kinda troubleshoot our own packages, even if they’re repackaged from a closed source deb/rpm. If the dependencies are there and compiled against whatever is needed for the package to run, I don’t really see a reason not to offer support for other distros, or at least make a subforum or whatever for those that want to repackage stuff for other distros, so they can at least gather in one place and discuss issues regarding repackaging, with some guidelines> from the support staff of the product. But unfortunatelly, that’s rarely the case, that was my point.
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[launchpad.net/grub-customizer/](https://launchpad.net/grub-customizer/)\n
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I think that GH repo is just for reference… or maybe they (whoever made it) stopped syncing it to the main repo, IDK. 5.2.4 is the latest version and it’s released late 2023, so yeah, it’s still under active development.
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They want even those power users that are used to tweaking the OS to not tweak the OS and just get used to the new defaults (whatever they might be). A perfect example being no thin taskbar in Win11. Why? IDK, you tell me 🤷. Not everyone has a FullHD monitor (I don’t), but hey, maybe you need to buy a new one 😒. Consumerism maybe behind this, but I can’t be certain.\n
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In any case, most users will eventually get accustomed to the new defaults. Very few users will say “f this” and switch to another OS and they don’t actually care about those users, cuz they would have switched eventually anyway (if it wasn’t for this, some other thing most probably).
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Really? I think it shows the files as locked, but you can actually do whatever in root 🤔.\n
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In either case, it’s just more painless to actually let it boot all the way than to interrupt the boot process.
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> Everything just boils down that Windows was pre installed on such a huge amount of machines that “you have to be tech savvy” or whatever to use Linux.\n
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Yes, I would agree that having Windows preinstalled on almost every brand name PC/laptop there is out there is the main reason why things are what they are.\n
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But, I’d also argue that, from your everyday user’s stand point, Windows is a lot easier to get office work done. Everything is pretty much GUI based, there is no terminal in Windows (cmd and PowerShell are not the terminal, you can’t do everything you can in a GUI in the cmd or in PowerShell, and vice versa, so it’s not the same), so from a regular user’s perspective, things are simpler.\n
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> And the fact that no one wants to install anything that wasn’t installed the first time, makes it that much harder to switch to Linux.\n
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Why bother changing something that works and gets the job done 🤷… plus, they gotta learn new things if they did that, why make their lives harder.\n
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Not everyone cares about libre software… or even know it exists.\n
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> But I believe that we all are slowly spreading the word of Linux more and more with each year. We definitely will have a year of Linux for sure (eventually).\n
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If this does happen, this won’t be within a year, it will be within several years (or a decade).\n
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But, I do agree that there are changes in a positive direction. Most software products (slosed source ones) now have at least a Debian/Ubuntu .deb package (which wasn’t the case 10 years ago, which wasn’t that long ago) and even do customer support for Linux (but only limited to that particular flavor of Linux which they provide the packages for… not an ideal scenario, but it’s not bad either).\n
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So, yeah, I’m optimistic, but not too much. It might eventually happen, but not in the near future IMO.
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Yeah, and it’s a big market… all 6% of it.\n
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My point was, systemd is not the only init system, there are others. Just because it’s used by over 90% of the Linux distros out there, doesn’t mean it’s the only one, thus offering a solution that is tied to systemd is not exactly a solution. Grub already has it figured out, why complicate things further.
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> No, most popular Linux distros have every GUI app you need to do your office work. What do you need? Office suite, file manager and browser? Check, check, check. Moreover, you don’t have any office preinstalled on Windows and you even have to buy it (and the OS itself), or create a Microsoft account and use online, feature- and Internet-limited version.\n
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Yes, but have you looked at how LibreOffice looks? It looks like MS Office 1997-2003. Personally, I love that, but ask any MS Office user out there that’s not into tech and just wants to get the job done, you’ll always get the same answer, MS Office post 2007 with the ribbon interface is a lot better. People are used to that. If they’d have to chose between spending a little money and learning something new, guess what, they choose spending a little money. I know, it baffles me as well, but numbers don’t lie.\n
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And they usually see the whole MS account tied with office stuff thing as a feature, not as a drawback. Sure, they don’t get to use all the tools that the sute can offer, but who needs calcs in spreadsheets or math equations in a text editor anyway, that’s for geeks 😒.\n
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Basically, if they can write a few words and insert an image here and there, that’s more than enough for most people’s needs. Sure, they pay for that, which they can get for free, but you don’t see LibreOffice ads in Windows, do you 🤷.\n
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> Side note. You don’t always need the support, and the packages themselves can and do become available on other platforms. AUR and Nix repositories are the largest ones that have community-created packages that only available on Ubuntu or Fedora, etc.\n
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Thay is what I actually meant, we kinda troubleshoot our own packages, even if they’re repackaged from a closed source deb/rpm. If the dependencies are there and compiled against whatever is needed for the package to run, I don’t really see a reason not to offer support for other distros, or at least make a subforum or whatever for those that want to repackage stuff for other distros, so they can at least gather in one place and discuss issues regarding repackaging, with some guidelines> from the support staff of the product. But unfortunatelly, that’s rarely the case, that was my point.
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[launchpad.net/grub-customizer/](https://launchpad.net/grub-customizer/)\n
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I think that GH repo is just for reference… or maybe they (whoever made it) stopped syncing it to the main repo, IDK. 5.2.4 is the latest version and it’s released late 2023, so yeah, it’s still under active development.
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They want even those power users that are used to tweaking the OS to not tweak the OS and just get used to the new defaults (whatever they might be). A perfect example being no thin taskbar in Win11. Why? IDK, you tell me 🤷. Not everyone has a FullHD monitor (I don’t), but hey, maybe you need to buy a new one 😒. Consumerism maybe behind this, but I can’t be certain.\n
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In any case, most users will eventually get accustomed to the new defaults. Very few users will say “f this” and switch to another OS and they don’t actually care about those users, cuz they would have switched eventually anyway (if it wasn’t for this, some other thing most probably).
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Really? I think it shows the files as locked, but you can actually do whatever in root 🤔.\n
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In either case, it’s just more painless to actually let it boot all the way than to interrupt the boot process.
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> Everything just boils down that Windows was pre installed on such a huge amount of machines that “you have to be tech savvy” or whatever to use Linux.\n
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Yes, I would agree that having Windows preinstalled on almost every brand name PC/laptop there is out there is the main reason why things are what they are.\n
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But, I’d also argue that, from your everyday user’s stand point, Windows is a lot easier to get office work done. Everything is pretty much GUI based, there is no terminal in Windows (cmd and PowerShell are not the terminal, you can’t do everything you can in a GUI in the cmd or in PowerShell, and vice versa, so it’s not the same), so from a regular user’s perspective, things are simpler.\n
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> And the fact that no one wants to install anything that wasn’t installed the first time, makes it that much harder to switch to Linux.\n
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Why bother changing something that works and gets the job done 🤷… plus, they gotta learn new things if they did that, why make their lives harder.\n
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Not everyone cares about libre software… or even know it exists.\n
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> But I believe that we all are slowly spreading the word of Linux more and more with each year. We definitely will have a year of Linux for sure (eventually).\n
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If this does happen, this won’t be within a year, it will be within several years (or a decade).\n
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But, I do agree that there are changes in a positive direction. Most software products (slosed source ones) now have at least a Debian/Ubuntu .deb package (which wasn’t the case 10 years ago, which wasn’t that long ago) and even do customer support for Linux (but only limited to that particular flavor of Linux which they provide the packages for… not an ideal scenario, but it’s not bad either).\n
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So, yeah, I’m optimistic, but not too much. It might eventually happen, but not in the near future IMO.
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Yeah, and it’s a big market… all 6% of it.\n
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My point was, systemd is not the only init system, there are others. Just because it’s used by over 90% of the Linux distros out there, doesn’t mean it’s the only one, thus offering a solution that is tied to systemd is not exactly a solution. Grub already has it figured out, why complicate things further.
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> No, most popular Linux distros have every GUI app you need to do your office work. What do you need? Office suite, file manager and browser? Check, check, check. Moreover, you don’t have any office preinstalled on Windows and you even have to buy it (and the OS itself), or create a Microsoft account and use online, feature- and Internet-limited version.\n
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Yes, but have you looked at how LibreOffice looks? It looks like MS Office 1997-2003. Personally, I love that, but ask any MS Office user out there that’s not into tech and just wants to get the job done, you’ll always get the same answer, MS Office post 2007 with the ribbon interface is a lot better. People are used to that. If they’d have to chose between spending a little money and learning something new, guess what, they choose spending a little money. I know, it baffles me as well, but numbers don’t lie.\n
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And they usually see the whole MS account tied with office stuff thing as a feature, not as a drawback. Sure, they don’t get to use all the tools that the sute can offer, but who needs calcs in spreadsheets or math equations in a text editor anyway, that’s for geeks 😒.\n
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Basically, if they can write a few words and insert an image here and there, that’s more than enough for most people’s needs. Sure, they pay for that, which they can get for free, but you don’t see LibreOffice ads in Windows, do you 🤷.\n
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> Side note. You don’t always need the support, and the packages themselves can and do become available on other platforms. AUR and Nix repositories are the largest ones that have community-created packages that only available on Ubuntu or Fedora, etc.\n
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Thay is what I actually meant, we kinda troubleshoot our own packages, even if they’re repackaged from a closed source deb/rpm. If the dependencies are there and compiled against whatever is needed for the package to run, I don’t really see a reason not to offer support for other distros, or at least make a subforum or whatever for those that want to repackage stuff for other distros, so they can at least gather in one place and discuss issues regarding repackaging, with some guidelines> from the support staff of the product. But unfortunatelly, that’s rarely the case, that was my point.
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[launchpad.net/grub-customizer/](https://launchpad.net/grub-customizer/)\n
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I think that GH repo is just for reference… or maybe they (whoever made it) stopped syncing it to the main repo, IDK. 5.2.4 is the latest version and it’s released late 2023, so yeah, it’s still under active development.
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They want even those power users that are used to tweaking the OS to not tweak the OS and just get used to the new defaults (whatever they might be). A perfect example being no thin taskbar in Win11. Why? IDK, you tell me 🤷. Not everyone has a FullHD monitor (I don’t), but hey, maybe you need to buy a new one 😒. Consumerism maybe behind this, but I can’t be certain.\n
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In any case, most users will eventually get accustomed to the new defaults. Very few users will say “f this” and switch to another OS and they don’t actually care about those users, cuz they would have switched eventually anyway (if it wasn’t for this, some other thing most probably).
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Really? I think it shows the files as locked, but you can actually do whatever in root 🤔.\n
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In either case, it’s just more painless to actually let it boot all the way than to interrupt the boot process.
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> Everything just boils down that Windows was pre installed on such a huge amount of machines that “you have to be tech savvy” or whatever to use Linux.\n
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Yes, I would agree that having Windows preinstalled on almost every brand name PC/laptop there is out there is the main reason why things are what they are.\n
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But, I’d also argue that, from your everyday user’s stand point, Windows is a lot easier to get office work done. Everything is pretty much GUI based, there is no terminal in Windows (cmd and PowerShell are not the terminal, you can’t do everything you can in a GUI in the cmd or in PowerShell, and vice versa, so it’s not the same), so from a regular user’s perspective, things are simpler.\n
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> And the fact that no one wants to install anything that wasn’t installed the first time, makes it that much harder to switch to Linux.\n
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Why bother changing something that works and gets the job done 🤷… plus, they gotta learn new things if they did that, why make their lives harder.\n
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Not everyone cares about libre software… or even know it exists.\n
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> But I believe that we all are slowly spreading the word of Linux more and more with each year. We definitely will have a year of Linux for sure (eventually).\n
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If this does happen, this won’t be within a year, it will be within several years (or a decade).\n
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But, I do agree that there are changes in a positive direction. Most software products (slosed source ones) now have at least a Debian/Ubuntu .deb package (which wasn’t the case 10 years ago, which wasn’t that long ago) and even do customer support for Linux (but only limited to that particular flavor of Linux which they provide the packages for… not an ideal scenario, but it’s not bad either).\n
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So, yeah, I’m optimistic, but not too much. It might eventually happen, but not in the near future IMO.
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Yeah, and it’s a big market… all 6% of it.\n
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My point was, systemd is not the only init system, there are others. Just because it’s used by over 90% of the Linux distros out there, doesn’t mean it’s the only one, thus offering a solution that is tied to systemd is not exactly a solution. Grub already has it figured out, why complicate things further.
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> No, most popular Linux distros have every GUI app you need to do your office work. What do you need? Office suite, file manager and browser? Check, check, check. Moreover, you don’t have any office preinstalled on Windows and you even have to buy it (and the OS itself), or create a Microsoft account and use online, feature- and Internet-limited version.\n
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Yes, but have you looked at how LibreOffice looks? It looks like MS Office 1997-2003. Personally, I love that, but ask any MS Office user out there that’s not into tech and just wants to get the job done, you’ll always get the same answer, MS Office post 2007 with the ribbon interface is a lot better. People are used to that. If they’d have to chose between spending a little money and learning something new, guess what, they choose spending a little money. I know, it baffles me as well, but numbers don’t lie.\n
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And they usually see the whole MS account tied with office stuff thing as a feature, not as a drawback. Sure, they don’t get to use all the tools that the sute can offer, but who needs calcs in spreadsheets or math equations in a text editor anyway, that’s for geeks 😒.\n
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Basically, if they can write a few words and insert an image here and there, that’s more than enough for most people’s needs. Sure, they pay for that, which they can get for free, but you don’t see LibreOffice ads in Windows, do you 🤷.\n
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> Side note. You don’t always need the support, and the packages themselves can and do become available on other platforms. AUR and Nix repositories are the largest ones that have community-created packages that only available on Ubuntu or Fedora, etc.\n
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Thay is what I actually meant, we kinda troubleshoot our own packages, even if they’re repackaged from a closed source deb/rpm. If the dependencies are there and compiled against whatever is needed for the package to run, I don’t really see a reason not to offer support for other distros, or at least make a subforum or whatever for those that want to repackage stuff for other distros, so they can at least gather in one place and discuss issues regarding repackaging, with some guidelines> from the support staff of the product. But unfortunatelly, that’s rarely the case, that was my point.
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[launchpad.net/grub-customizer/](https://launchpad.net/grub-customizer/)\n
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I think that GH repo is just for reference… or maybe they (whoever made it) stopped syncing it to the main repo, IDK. 5.2.4 is the latest version and it’s released late 2023, so yeah, it’s still under active development.
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They want even those power users that are used to tweaking the OS to not tweak the OS and just get used to the new defaults (whatever they might be). A perfect example being no thin taskbar in Win11. Why? IDK, you tell me 🤷. Not everyone has a FullHD monitor (I don’t), but hey, maybe you need to buy a new one 😒. Consumerism maybe behind this, but I can’t be certain.\n
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In any case, most users will eventually get accustomed to the new defaults. Very few users will say “f this” and switch to another OS and they don’t actually care about those users, cuz they would have switched eventually anyway (if it wasn’t for this, some other thing most probably).
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Really? I think it shows the files as locked, but you can actually do whatever in root 🤔.\n
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In either case, it’s just more painless to actually let it boot all the way than to interrupt the boot process.
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> Everything just boils down that Windows was pre installed on such a huge amount of machines that “you have to be tech savvy” or whatever to use Linux.\n
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Yes, I would agree that having Windows preinstalled on almost every brand name PC/laptop there is out there is the main reason why things are what they are.\n
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But, I’d also argue that, from your everyday user’s stand point, Windows is a lot easier to get office work done. Everything is pretty much GUI based, there is no terminal in Windows (cmd and PowerShell are not the terminal, you can’t do everything you can in a GUI in the cmd or in PowerShell, and vice versa, so it’s not the same), so from a regular user’s perspective, things are simpler.\n
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> And the fact that no one wants to install anything that wasn’t installed the first time, makes it that much harder to switch to Linux.\n
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Why bother changing something that works and gets the job done 🤷… plus, they gotta learn new things if they did that, why make their lives harder.\n
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Not everyone cares about libre software… or even know it exists.\n
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> But I believe that we all are slowly spreading the word of Linux more and more with each year. We definitely will have a year of Linux for sure (eventually).\n
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If this does happen, this won’t be within a year, it will be within several years (or a decade).\n
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But, I do agree that there are changes in a positive direction. Most software products (slosed source ones) now have at least a Debian/Ubuntu .deb package (which wasn’t the case 10 years ago, which wasn’t that long ago) and even do customer support for Linux (but only limited to that particular flavor of Linux which they provide the packages for… not an ideal scenario, but it’s not bad either).\n
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So, yeah, I’m optimistic, but not too much. It might eventually happen, but not in the near future IMO.
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Yeah, and it’s a big market… all 6% of it.\n
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My point was, systemd is not the only init system, there are others. Just because it’s used by over 90% of the Linux distros out there, doesn’t mean it’s the only one, thus offering a solution that is tied to systemd is not exactly a solution. Grub already has it figured out, why complicate things further.
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> No, most popular Linux distros have every GUI app you need to do your office work. What do you need? Office suite, file manager and browser? Check, check, check. Moreover, you don’t have any office preinstalled on Windows and you even have to buy it (and the OS itself), or create a Microsoft account and use online, feature- and Internet-limited version.\n
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Yes, but have you looked at how LibreOffice looks? It looks like MS Office 1997-2003. Personally, I love that, but ask any MS Office user out there that’s not into tech and just wants to get the job done, you’ll always get the same answer, MS Office post 2007 with the ribbon interface is a lot better. People are used to that. If they’d have to chose between spending a little money and learning something new, guess what, they choose spending a little money. I know, it baffles me as well, but numbers don’t lie.\n
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And they usually see the whole MS account tied with office stuff thing as a feature, not as a drawback. Sure, they don’t get to use all the tools that the sute can offer, but who needs calcs in spreadsheets or math equations in a text editor anyway, that’s for geeks 😒.\n
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Basically, if they can write a few words and insert an image here and there, that’s more than enough for most people’s needs. Sure, they pay for that, which they can get for free, but you don’t see LibreOffice ads in Windows, do you 🤷.\n
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> Side note. You don’t always need the support, and the packages themselves can and do become available on other platforms. AUR and Nix repositories are the largest ones that have community-created packages that only available on Ubuntu or Fedora, etc.\n
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Thay is what I actually meant, we kinda troubleshoot our own packages, even if they’re repackaged from a closed source deb/rpm. If the dependencies are there and compiled against whatever is needed for the package to run, I don’t really see a reason not to offer support for other distros, or at least make a subforum or whatever for those that want to repackage stuff for other distros, so they can at least gather in one place and discuss issues regarding repackaging, with some guidelines> from the support staff of the product. But unfortunatelly, that’s rarely the case, that was my point.
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[launchpad.net/grub-customizer/](https://launchpad.net/grub-customizer/)\n
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I think that GH repo is just for reference… or maybe they (whoever made it) stopped syncing it to the main repo, IDK. 5.2.4 is the latest version and it’s released late 2023, so yeah, it’s still under active development.
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They want even those power users that are used to tweaking the OS to not tweak the OS and just get used to the new defaults (whatever they might be). A perfect example being no thin taskbar in Win11. Why? IDK, you tell me 🤷. Not everyone has a FullHD monitor (I don’t), but hey, maybe you need to buy a new one 😒. Consumerism maybe behind this, but I can’t be certain.\n
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In any case, most users will eventually get accustomed to the new defaults. Very few users will say “f this” and switch to another OS and they don’t actually care about those users, cuz they would have switched eventually anyway (if it wasn’t for this, some other thing most probably).
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Really? I think it shows the files as locked, but you can actually do whatever in root 🤔.\n
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In either case, it’s just more painless to actually let it boot all the way than to interrupt the boot process.
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> Everything just boils down that Windows was pre installed on such a huge amount of machines that “you have to be tech savvy” or whatever to use Linux.\n
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Yes, I would agree that having Windows preinstalled on almost every brand name PC/laptop there is out there is the main reason why things are what they are.\n
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But, I’d also argue that, from your everyday user’s stand point, Windows is a lot easier to get office work done. Everything is pretty much GUI based, there is no terminal in Windows (cmd and PowerShell are not the terminal, you can’t do everything you can in a GUI in the cmd or in PowerShell, and vice versa, so it’s not the same), so from a regular user’s perspective, things are simpler.\n
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> And the fact that no one wants to install anything that wasn’t installed the first time, makes it that much harder to switch to Linux.\n
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Why bother changing something that works and gets the job done 🤷… plus, they gotta learn new things if they did that, why make their lives harder.\n
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Not everyone cares about libre software… or even know it exists.\n
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> But I believe that we all are slowly spreading the word of Linux more and more with each year. We definitely will have a year of Linux for sure (eventually).\n
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If this does happen, this won’t be within a year, it will be within several years (or a decade).\n
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But, I do agree that there are changes in a positive direction. Most software products (slosed source ones) now have at least a Debian/Ubuntu .deb package (which wasn’t the case 10 years ago, which wasn’t that long ago) and even do customer support for Linux (but only limited to that particular flavor of Linux which they provide the packages for… not an ideal scenario, but it’s not bad either).\n
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So, yeah, I’m optimistic, but not too much. It might eventually happen, but not in the near future IMO.
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Yeah, and it’s a big market… all 6% of it.\n
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My point was, systemd is not the only init system, there are others. Just because it’s used by over 90% of the Linux distros out there, doesn’t mean it’s the only one, thus offering a solution that is tied to systemd is not exactly a solution. Grub already has it figured out, why complicate things further.
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> No, most popular Linux distros have every GUI app you need to do your office work. What do you need? Office suite, file manager and browser? Check, check, check. Moreover, you don’t have any office preinstalled on Windows and you even have to buy it (and the OS itself), or create a Microsoft account and use online, feature- and Internet-limited version.\n
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Yes, but have you looked at how LibreOffice looks? It looks like MS Office 1997-2003. Personally, I love that, but ask any MS Office user out there that’s not into tech and just wants to get the job done, you’ll always get the same answer, MS Office post 2007 with the ribbon interface is a lot better. People are used to that. If they’d have to chose between spending a little money and learning something new, guess what, they choose spending a little money. I know, it baffles me as well, but numbers don’t lie.\n
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And they usually see the whole MS account tied with office stuff thing as a feature, not as a drawback. Sure, they don’t get to use all the tools that the sute can offer, but who needs calcs in spreadsheets or math equations in a text editor anyway, that’s for geeks 😒.\n
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Basically, if they can write a few words and insert an image here and there, that’s more than enough for most people’s needs. Sure, they pay for that, which they can get for free, but you don’t see LibreOffice ads in Windows, do you 🤷.\n
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> Side note. You don’t always need the support, and the packages themselves can and do become available on other platforms. AUR and Nix repositories are the largest ones that have community-created packages that only available on Ubuntu or Fedora, etc.\n
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Thay is what I actually meant, we kinda troubleshoot our own packages, even if they’re repackaged from a closed source deb/rpm. If the dependencies are there and compiled against whatever is needed for the package to run, I don’t really see a reason not to offer support for other distros, or at least make a subforum or whatever for those that want to repackage stuff for other distros, so they can at least gather in one place and discuss issues regarding repackaging, with some guidelines> from the support staff of the product. But unfortunatelly, that’s rarely the case, that was my point.
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[launchpad.net/grub-customizer/](https://launchpad.net/grub-customizer/)\n
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I think that GH repo is just for reference… or maybe they (whoever made it) stopped syncing it to the main repo, IDK. 5.2.4 is the latest version and it’s released late 2023, so yeah, it’s still under active development.
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They want even those power users that are used to tweaking the OS to not tweak the OS and just get used to the new defaults (whatever they might be). A perfect example being no thin taskbar in Win11. Why? IDK, you tell me 🤷. Not everyone has a FullHD monitor (I don’t), but hey, maybe you need to buy a new one 😒. Consumerism maybe behind this, but I can’t be certain.\n
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In any case, most users will eventually get accustomed to the new defaults. Very few users will say “f this” and switch to another OS and they don’t actually care about those users, cuz they would have switched eventually anyway (if it wasn’t for this, some other thing most probably).
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Really? I think it shows the files as locked, but you can actually do whatever in root 🤔.\n
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In either case, it’s just more painless to actually let it boot all the way than to interrupt the boot process.
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> Everything just boils down that Windows was pre installed on such a huge amount of machines that “you have to be tech savvy” or whatever to use Linux.\n
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Yes, I would agree that having Windows preinstalled on almost every brand name PC/laptop there is out there is the main reason why things are what they are.\n
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But, I’d also argue that, from your everyday user’s stand point, Windows is a lot easier to get office work done. Everything is pretty much GUI based, there is no terminal in Windows (cmd and PowerShell are not the terminal, you can’t do everything you can in a GUI in the cmd or in PowerShell, and vice versa, so it’s not the same), so from a regular user’s perspective, things are simpler.\n
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> And the fact that no one wants to install anything that wasn’t installed the first time, makes it that much harder to switch to Linux.\n
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Why bother changing something that works and gets the job done 🤷… plus, they gotta learn new things if they did that, why make their lives harder.\n
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Not everyone cares about libre software… or even know it exists.\n
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> But I believe that we all are slowly spreading the word of Linux more and more with each year. We definitely will have a year of Linux for sure (eventually).\n
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If this does happen, this won’t be within a year, it will be within several years (or a decade).\n
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But, I do agree that there are changes in a positive direction. Most software products (slosed source ones) now have at least a Debian/Ubuntu .deb package (which wasn’t the case 10 years ago, which wasn’t that long ago) and even do customer support for Linux (but only limited to that particular flavor of Linux which they provide the packages for… not an ideal scenario, but it’s not bad either).\n
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So, yeah, I’m optimistic, but not too much. It might eventually happen, but not in the near future IMO.
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Yeah, and it’s a big market… all 6% of it.\n
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My point was, systemd is not the only init system, there are others. Just because it’s used by over 90% of the Linux distros out there, doesn’t mean it’s the only one, thus offering a solution that is tied to systemd is not exactly a solution. Grub already has it figured out, why complicate things further.
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> No, most popular Linux distros have every GUI app you need to do your office work. What do you need? Office suite, file manager and browser? Check, check, check. Moreover, you don’t have any office preinstalled on Windows and you even have to buy it (and the OS itself), or create a Microsoft account and use online, feature- and Internet-limited version.\n
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Yes, but have you looked at how LibreOffice looks? It looks like MS Office 1997-2003. Personally, I love that, but ask any MS Office user out there that’s not into tech and just wants to get the job done, you’ll always get the same answer, MS Office post 2007 with the ribbon interface is a lot better. People are used to that. If they’d have to chose between spending a little money and learning something new, guess what, they choose spending a little money. I know, it baffles me as well, but numbers don’t lie.\n
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And they usually see the whole MS account tied with office stuff thing as a feature, not as a drawback. Sure, they don’t get to use all the tools that the sute can offer, but who needs calcs in spreadsheets or math equations in a text editor anyway, that’s for geeks 😒.\n
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Basically, if they can write a few words and insert an image here and there, that’s more than enough for most people’s needs. Sure, they pay for that, which they can get for free, but you don’t see LibreOffice ads in Windows, do you 🤷.\n
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> Side note. You don’t always need the support, and the packages themselves can and do become available on other platforms. AUR and Nix repositories are the largest ones that have community-created packages that only available on Ubuntu or Fedora, etc.\n
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Thay is what I actually meant, we kinda troubleshoot our own packages, even if they’re repackaged from a closed source deb/rpm. If the dependencies are there and compiled against whatever is needed for the package to run, I don’t really see a reason not to offer support for other distros, or at least make a subforum or whatever for those that want to repackage stuff for other distros, so they can at least gather in one place and discuss issues regarding repackaging, with some guidelines> from the support staff of the product. But unfortunatelly, that’s rarely the case, that was my point.
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[launchpad.net/grub-customizer/](https://launchpad.net/grub-customizer/)\n
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I think that GH repo is just for reference… or maybe they (whoever made it) stopped syncing it to the main repo, IDK. 5.2.4 is the latest version and it’s released late 2023, so yeah, it’s still under active development.
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They want even those power users that are used to tweaking the OS to not tweak the OS and just get used to the new defaults (whatever they might be). A perfect example being no thin taskbar in Win11. Why? IDK, you tell me 🤷. Not everyone has a FullHD monitor (I don’t), but hey, maybe you need to buy a new one 😒. Consumerism maybe behind this, but I can’t be certain.\n
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In any case, most users will eventually get accustomed to the new defaults. Very few users will say “f this” and switch to another OS and they don’t actually care about those users, cuz they would have switched eventually anyway (if it wasn’t for this, some other thing most probably).
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Really? I think it shows the files as locked, but you can actually do whatever in root 🤔.\n
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In either case, it’s just more painless to actually let it boot all the way than to interrupt the boot process.
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> Everything just boils down that Windows was pre installed on such a huge amount of machines that “you have to be tech savvy” or whatever to use Linux.\n
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Yes, I would agree that having Windows preinstalled on almost every brand name PC/laptop there is out there is the main reason why things are what they are.\n
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But, I’d also argue that, from your everyday user’s stand point, Windows is a lot easier to get office work done. Everything is pretty much GUI based, there is no terminal in Windows (cmd and PowerShell are not the terminal, you can’t do everything you can in a GUI in the cmd or in PowerShell, and vice versa, so it’s not the same), so from a regular user’s perspective, things are simpler.\n
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> And the fact that no one wants to install anything that wasn’t installed the first time, makes it that much harder to switch to Linux.\n
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Why bother changing something that works and gets the job done 🤷… plus, they gotta learn new things if they did that, why make their lives harder.\n
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Not everyone cares about libre software… or even know it exists.\n
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> But I believe that we all are slowly spreading the word of Linux more and more with each year. We definitely will have a year of Linux for sure (eventually).\n
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If this does happen, this won’t be within a year, it will be within several years (or a decade).\n
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But, I do agree that there are changes in a positive direction. Most software products (slosed source ones) now have at least a Debian/Ubuntu .deb package (which wasn’t the case 10 years ago, which wasn’t that long ago) and even do customer support for Linux (but only limited to that particular flavor of Linux which they provide the packages for… not an ideal scenario, but it’s not bad either).\n
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So, yeah, I’m optimistic, but not too much. It might eventually happen, but not in the near future IMO.
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Yeah, and it’s a big market… all 6% of it.\n
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My point was, systemd is not the only init system, there are others. Just because it’s used by over 90% of the Linux distros out there, doesn’t mean it’s the only one, thus offering a solution that is tied to systemd is not exactly a solution. Grub already has it figured out, why complicate things further.
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> No, most popular Linux distros have every GUI app you need to do your office work. What do you need? Office suite, file manager and browser? Check, check, check. Moreover, you don’t have any office preinstalled on Windows and you even have to buy it (and the OS itself), or create a Microsoft account and use online, feature- and Internet-limited version.\n
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Yes, but have you looked at how LibreOffice looks? It looks like MS Office 1997-2003. Personally, I love that, but ask any MS Office user out there that’s not into tech and just wants to get the job done, you’ll always get the same answer, MS Office post 2007 with the ribbon interface is a lot better. People are used to that. If they’d have to chose between spending a little money and learning something new, guess what, they choose spending a little money. I know, it baffles me as well, but numbers don’t lie.\n
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And they usually see the whole MS account tied with office stuff thing as a feature, not as a drawback. Sure, they don’t get to use all the tools that the sute can offer, but who needs calcs in spreadsheets or math equations in a text editor anyway, that’s for geeks 😒.\n
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Basically, if they can write a few words and insert an image here and there, that’s more than enough for most people’s needs. Sure, they pay for that, which they can get for free, but you don’t see LibreOffice ads in Windows, do you 🤷.\n
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> Side note. You don’t always need the support, and the packages themselves can and do become available on other platforms. AUR and Nix repositories are the largest ones that have community-created packages that only available on Ubuntu or Fedora, etc.\n
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Thay is what I actually meant, we kinda troubleshoot our own packages, even if they’re repackaged from a closed source deb/rpm. If the dependencies are there and compiled against whatever is needed for the package to run, I don’t really see a reason not to offer support for other distros, or at least make a subforum or whatever for those that want to repackage stuff for other distros, so they can at least gather in one place and discuss issues regarding repackaging, with some guidelines> from the support staff of the product. But unfortunatelly, that’s rarely the case, that was my point.
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[launchpad.net/grub-customizer/](https://launchpad.net/grub-customizer/)\n
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I think that GH repo is just for reference… or maybe they (whoever made it) stopped syncing it to the main repo, IDK. 5.2.4 is the latest version and it’s released late 2023, so yeah, it’s still under active development.
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They want even those power users that are used to tweaking the OS to not tweak the OS and just get used to the new defaults (whatever they might be). A perfect example being no thin taskbar in Win11. Why? IDK, you tell me 🤷. Not everyone has a FullHD monitor (I don’t), but hey, maybe you need to buy a new one 😒. Consumerism maybe behind this, but I can’t be certain.\n
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In any case, most users will eventually get accustomed to the new defaults. Very few users will say “f this” and switch to another OS and they don’t actually care about those users, cuz they would have switched eventually anyway (if it wasn’t for this, some other thing most probably).
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Really? I think it shows the files as locked, but you can actually do whatever in root 🤔.\n
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In either case, it’s just more painless to actually let it boot all the way than to interrupt the boot process.
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> Everything just boils down that Windows was pre installed on such a huge amount of machines that “you have to be tech savvy” or whatever to use Linux.\n
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Yes, I would agree that having Windows preinstalled on almost every brand name PC/laptop there is out there is the main reason why things are what they are.\n
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But, I’d also argue that, from your everyday user’s stand point, Windows is a lot easier to get office work done. Everything is pretty much GUI based, there is no terminal in Windows (cmd and PowerShell are not the terminal, you can’t do everything you can in a GUI in the cmd or in PowerShell, and vice versa, so it’s not the same), so from a regular user’s perspective, things are simpler.\n
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> And the fact that no one wants to install anything that wasn’t installed the first time, makes it that much harder to switch to Linux.\n
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Why bother changing something that works and gets the job done 🤷… plus, they gotta learn new things if they did that, why make their lives harder.\n
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Not everyone cares about libre software… or even know it exists.\n
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> But I believe that we all are slowly spreading the word of Linux more and more with each year. We definitely will have a year of Linux for sure (eventually).\n
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If this does happen, this won’t be within a year, it will be within several years (or a decade).\n
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But, I do agree that there are changes in a positive direction. Most software products (slosed source ones) now have at least a Debian/Ubuntu .deb package (which wasn’t the case 10 years ago, which wasn’t that long ago) and even do customer support for Linux (but only limited to that particular flavor of Linux which they provide the packages for… not an ideal scenario, but it’s not bad either).\n
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So, yeah, I’m optimistic, but not too much. It might eventually happen, but not in the near future IMO.
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> No, most popular Linux distros have every GUI app you need to do your office work. What do you need? Office suite, file manager and browser? Check, check, check. Moreover, you don’t have any office preinstalled on Windows and you even have to buy it (and the OS itself), or create a Microsoft account and use online, feature- and Internet-limited version.\n
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Yes, but have you looked at how LibreOffice looks? It looks like MS Office 1997-2003. Personally, I love that, but ask any MS Office user out there that’s not into tech and just wants to get the job done, you’ll always get the same answer, MS Office post 2007 with the ribbon interface is a lot better. People are used to that. If they’d have to chose between spending a little money and learning something new, guess what, they choose spending a little money. I know, it baffles me as well, but numbers don’t lie.\n
\n
And they usually see the whole MS account tied with office stuff thing as a feature, not as a drawback. Sure, they don’t get to use all the tools that the sute can offer, but who needs calcs in spreadsheets or math equations in a text editor anyway, that’s for geeks 😒.\n
\n
Basically, if they can write a few words and insert an image here and there, that’s more than enough for most people’s needs. Sure, they pay for that, which they can get for free, but you don’t see LibreOffice ads in Windows, do you 🤷.\n
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> Side note. You don’t always need the support, and the packages themselves can and do become available on other platforms. AUR and Nix repositories are the largest ones that have community-created packages that only available on Ubuntu or Fedora, etc.\n
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Thay is what I actually meant, we kinda troubleshoot our own packages, even if they’re repackaged from a closed source deb/rpm. If the dependencies are there and compiled against whatever is needed for the package to run, I don’t really see a reason not to offer support for other distros, or at least make a subforum or whatever for those that want to repackage stuff for other distros, so they can at least gather in one place and discuss issues regarding repackaging, with some guidelines> from the support staff of the product. But unfortunatelly, that’s rarely the case, that was my point.
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[launchpad.net/grub-customizer/](https://launchpad.net/grub-customizer/)\n
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I think that GH repo is just for reference… or maybe they (whoever made it) stopped syncing it to the main repo, IDK. 5.2.4 is the latest version and it’s released late 2023, so yeah, it’s still under active development.
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They want even those power users that are used to tweaking the OS to not tweak the OS and just get used to the new defaults (whatever they might be). A perfect example being no thin taskbar in Win11. Why? IDK, you tell me 🤷. Not everyone has a FullHD monitor (I don’t), but hey, maybe you need to buy a new one 😒. Consumerism maybe behind this, but I can’t be certain.\n
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In any case, most users will eventually get accustomed to the new defaults. Very few users will say “f this” and switch to another OS and they don’t actually care about those users, cuz they would have switched eventually anyway (if it wasn’t for this, some other thing most probably).
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Really? I think it shows the files as locked, but you can actually do whatever in root 🤔.\n
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In either case, it’s just more painless to actually let it boot all the way than to interrupt the boot process.
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> Everything just boils down that Windows was pre installed on such a huge amount of machines that “you have to be tech savvy” or whatever to use Linux.\n
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Yes, I would agree that having Windows preinstalled on almost every brand name PC/laptop there is out there is the main reason why things are what they are.\n
\n
But, I’d also argue that, from your everyday user’s stand point, Windows is a lot easier to get office work done. Everything is pretty much GUI based, there is no terminal in Windows (cmd and PowerShell are not the terminal, you can’t do everything you can in a GUI in the cmd or in PowerShell, and vice versa, so it’s not the same), so from a regular user’s perspective, things are simpler.\n
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> And the fact that no one wants to install anything that wasn’t installed the first time, makes it that much harder to switch to Linux.\n
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Why bother changing something that works and gets the job done 🤷… plus, they gotta learn new things if they did that, why make their lives harder.\n
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Not everyone cares about libre software… or even know it exists.\n
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> But I believe that we all are slowly spreading the word of Linux more and more with each year. We definitely will have a year of Linux for sure (eventually).\n
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If this does happen, this won’t be within a year, it will be within several years (or a decade).\n
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But, I do agree that there are changes in a positive direction. Most software products (slosed source ones) now have at least a Debian/Ubuntu .deb package (which wasn’t the case 10 years ago, which wasn’t that long ago) and even do customer support for Linux (but only limited to that particular flavor of Linux which they provide the packages for… not an ideal scenario, but it’s not bad either).\n
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So, yeah, I’m optimistic, but not too much. It might eventually happen, but not in the near future IMO.
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Yeah, and it’s a big market… all 6% of it.\n
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My point was, systemd is not the only init system, there are others. Just because it’s used by over 90% of the Linux distros out there, doesn’t mean it’s the only one, thus offering a solution that is tied to systemd is not exactly a solution. Grub already has it figured out, why complicate things further.
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> No, most popular Linux distros have every GUI app you need to do your office work. What do you need? Office suite, file manager and browser? Check, check, check. Moreover, you don’t have any office preinstalled on Windows and you even have to buy it (and the OS itself), or create a Microsoft account and use online, feature- and Internet-limited version.\n
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Yes, but have you looked at how LibreOffice looks? It looks like MS Office 1997-2003. Personally, I love that, but ask any MS Office user out there that’s not into tech and just wants to get the job done, you’ll always get the same answer, MS Office post 2007 with the ribbon interface is a lot better. People are used to that. If they’d have to chose between spending a little money and learning something new, guess what, they choose spending a little money. I know, it baffles me as well, but numbers don’t lie.\n
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And they usually see the whole MS account tied with office stuff thing as a feature, not as a drawback. Sure, they don’t get to use all the tools that the sute can offer, but who needs calcs in spreadsheets or math equations in a text editor anyway, that’s for geeks 😒.\n
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Basically, if they can write a few words and insert an image here and there, that’s more than enough for most people’s needs. Sure, they pay for that, which they can get for free, but you don’t see LibreOffice ads in Windows, do you 🤷.\n
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> Side note. You don’t always need the support, and the packages themselves can and do become available on other platforms. AUR and Nix repositories are the largest ones that have community-created packages that only available on Ubuntu or Fedora, etc.\n
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Thay is what I actually meant, we kinda troubleshoot our own packages, even if they’re repackaged from a closed source deb/rpm. If the dependencies are there and compiled against whatever is needed for the package to run, I don’t really see a reason not to offer support for other distros, or at least make a subforum or whatever for those that want to repackage stuff for other distros, so they can at least gather in one place and discuss issues regarding repackaging, with some guidelines> from the support staff of the product. But unfortunatelly, that’s rarely the case, that was my point.
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[launchpad.net/grub-customizer/](https://launchpad.net/grub-customizer/)\n
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I think that GH repo is just for reference… or maybe they (whoever made it) stopped syncing it to the main repo, IDK. 5.2.4 is the latest version and it’s released late 2023, so yeah, it’s still under active development.
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They want even those power users that are used to tweaking the OS to not tweak the OS and just get used to the new defaults (whatever they might be). A perfect example being no thin taskbar in Win11. Why? IDK, you tell me 🤷. Not everyone has a FullHD monitor (I don’t), but hey, maybe you need to buy a new one 😒. Consumerism maybe behind this, but I can’t be certain.\n
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In any case, most users will eventually get accustomed to the new defaults. Very few users will say “f this” and switch to another OS and they don’t actually care about those users, cuz they would have switched eventually anyway (if it wasn’t for this, some other thing most probably).
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Really? I think it shows the files as locked, but you can actually do whatever in root 🤔.\n
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In either case, it’s just more painless to actually let it boot all the way than to interrupt the boot process.
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> Everything just boils down that Windows was pre installed on such a huge amount of machines that “you have to be tech savvy” or whatever to use Linux.\n
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Yes, I would agree that having Windows preinstalled on almost every brand name PC/laptop there is out there is the main reason why things are what they are.\n
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But, I’d also argue that, from your everyday user’s stand point, Windows is a lot easier to get office work done. Everything is pretty much GUI based, there is no terminal in Windows (cmd and PowerShell are not the terminal, you can’t do everything you can in a GUI in the cmd or in PowerShell, and vice versa, so it’s not the same), so from a regular user’s perspective, things are simpler.\n
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> And the fact that no one wants to install anything that wasn’t installed the first time, makes it that much harder to switch to Linux.\n
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Why bother changing something that works and gets the job done 🤷… plus, they gotta learn new things if they did that, why make their lives harder.\n
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Not everyone cares about libre software… or even know it exists.\n
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> But I believe that we all are slowly spreading the word of Linux more and more with each year. We definitely will have a year of Linux for sure (eventually).\n
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If this does happen, this won’t be within a year, it will be within several years (or a decade).\n
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But, I do agree that there are changes in a positive direction. Most software products (slosed source ones) now have at least a Debian/Ubuntu .deb package (which wasn’t the case 10 years ago, which wasn’t that long ago) and even do customer support for Linux (but only limited to that particular flavor of Linux which they provide the packages for… not an ideal scenario, but it’s not bad either).\n
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So, yeah, I’m optimistic, but not too much. It might eventually happen, but not in the near future IMO.
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Yeah, and it’s a big market… all 6% of it.\n
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My point was, systemd is not the only init system, there are others. Just because it’s used by over 90% of the Linux distros out there, doesn’t mean it’s the only one, thus offering a solution that is tied to systemd is not exactly a solution. Grub already has it figured out, why complicate things further.
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> No, most popular Linux distros have every GUI app you need to do your office work. What do you need? Office suite, file manager and browser? Check, check, check. Moreover, you don’t have any office preinstalled on Windows and you even have to buy it (and the OS itself), or create a Microsoft account and use online, feature- and Internet-limited version.\n
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Yes, but have you looked at how LibreOffice looks? It looks like MS Office 1997-2003. Personally, I love that, but ask any MS Office user out there that’s not into tech and just wants to get the job done, you’ll always get the same answer, MS Office post 2007 with the ribbon interface is a lot better. People are used to that. If they’d have to chose between spending a little money and learning something new, guess what, they choose spending a little money. I know, it baffles me as well, but numbers don’t lie.\n
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And they usually see the whole MS account tied with office stuff thing as a feature, not as a drawback. Sure, they don’t get to use all the tools that the sute can offer, but who needs calcs in spreadsheets or math equations in a text editor anyway, that’s for geeks 😒.\n
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Basically, if they can write a few words and insert an image here and there, that’s more than enough for most people’s needs. Sure, they pay for that, which they can get for free, but you don’t see LibreOffice ads in Windows, do you 🤷.\n
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> Side note. You don’t always need the support, and the packages themselves can and do become available on other platforms. AUR and Nix repositories are the largest ones that have community-created packages that only available on Ubuntu or Fedora, etc.\n
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Thay is what I actually meant, we kinda troubleshoot our own packages, even if they’re repackaged from a closed source deb/rpm. If the dependencies are there and compiled against whatever is needed for the package to run, I don’t really see a reason not to offer support for other distros, or at least make a subforum or whatever for those that want to repackage stuff for other distros, so they can at least gather in one place and discuss issues regarding repackaging, with some guidelines> from the support staff of the product. But unfortunatelly, that’s rarely the case, that was my point.
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[launchpad.net/grub-customizer/](https://launchpad.net/grub-customizer/)\n
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I think that GH repo is just for reference… or maybe they (whoever made it) stopped syncing it to the main repo, IDK. 5.2.4 is the latest version and it’s released late 2023, so yeah, it’s still under active development.
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They want even those power users that are used to tweaking the OS to not tweak the OS and just get used to the new defaults (whatever they might be). A perfect example being no thin taskbar in Win11. Why? IDK, you tell me 🤷. Not everyone has a FullHD monitor (I don’t), but hey, maybe you need to buy a new one 😒. Consumerism maybe behind this, but I can’t be certain.\n
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In any case, most users will eventually get accustomed to the new defaults. Very few users will say “f this” and switch to another OS and they don’t actually care about those users, cuz they would have switched eventually anyway (if it wasn’t for this, some other thing most probably).
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Really? I think it shows the files as locked, but you can actually do whatever in root 🤔.\n
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In either case, it’s just more painless to actually let it boot all the way than to interrupt the boot process.
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> Everything just boils down that Windows was pre installed on such a huge amount of machines that “you have to be tech savvy” or whatever to use Linux.\n
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Yes, I would agree that having Windows preinstalled on almost every brand name PC/laptop there is out there is the main reason why things are what they are.\n
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But, I’d also argue that, from your everyday user’s stand point, Windows is a lot easier to get office work done. Everything is pretty much GUI based, there is no terminal in Windows (cmd and PowerShell are not the terminal, you can’t do everything you can in a GUI in the cmd or in PowerShell, and vice versa, so it’s not the same), so from a regular user’s perspective, things are simpler.\n
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> And the fact that no one wants to install anything that wasn’t installed the first time, makes it that much harder to switch to Linux.\n
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Why bother changing something that works and gets the job done 🤷… plus, they gotta learn new things if they did that, why make their lives harder.\n
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Not everyone cares about libre software… or even know it exists.\n
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> But I believe that we all are slowly spreading the word of Linux more and more with each year. We definitely will have a year of Linux for sure (eventually).\n
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If this does happen, this won’t be within a year, it will be within several years (or a decade).\n
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But, I do agree that there are changes in a positive direction. Most software products (slosed source ones) now have at least a Debian/Ubuntu .deb package (which wasn’t the case 10 years ago, which wasn’t that long ago) and even do customer support for Linux (but only limited to that particular flavor of Linux which they provide the packages for… not an ideal scenario, but it’s not bad either).\n
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So, yeah, I’m optimistic, but not too much. It might eventually happen, but not in the near future IMO.
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Yeah, and it’s a big market… all 6% of it.\n
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My point was, systemd is not the only init system, there are others. Just because it’s used by over 90% of the Linux distros out there, doesn’t mean it’s the only one, thus offering a solution that is tied to systemd is not exactly a solution. Grub already has it figured out, why complicate things further.
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Yeah, and it’s a big market… all 6% of it.\n
\n
My point was, systemd is not the only init system, there are others. Just because it’s used by over 90% of the Linux distros out there, doesn’t mean it’s the only one, thus offering a solution that is tied to systemd is not exactly a solution. Grub already has it figured out, why complicate things further.
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[launchpad.net/grub-customizer/](https://launchpad.net/grub-customizer/)\n
\n
I think that GH repo is just for reference… or maybe they (whoever made it) stopped syncing it to the main repo, IDK. 5.2.4 is the latest version and it’s released late 2023, so yeah, it’s still under active development.
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They want even those power users that are used to tweaking the OS to not tweak the OS and just get used to the new defaults (whatever they might be). A perfect example being no thin taskbar in Win11. Why? IDK, you tell me 🤷. Not everyone has a FullHD monitor (I don’t), but hey, maybe you need to buy a new one 😒. Consumerism maybe behind this, but I can’t be certain.\n
\n
In any case, most users will eventually get accustomed to the new defaults. Very few users will say “f this” and switch to another OS and they don’t actually care about those users, cuz they would have switched eventually anyway (if it wasn’t for this, some other thing most probably).
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Really? I think it shows the files as locked, but you can actually do whatever in root 🤔.\n
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In either case, it’s just more painless to actually let it boot all the way than to interrupt the boot process.
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> Everything just boils down that Windows was pre installed on such a huge amount of machines that “you have to be tech savvy” or whatever to use Linux.\n
\n
Yes, I would agree that having Windows preinstalled on almost every brand name PC/laptop there is out there is the main reason why things are what they are.\n
\n
But, I’d also argue that, from your everyday user’s stand point, Windows is a lot easier to get office work done. Everything is pretty much GUI based, there is no terminal in Windows (cmd and PowerShell are not the terminal, you can’t do everything you can in a GUI in the cmd or in PowerShell, and vice versa, so it’s not the same), so from a regular user’s perspective, things are simpler.\n
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> And the fact that no one wants to install anything that wasn’t installed the first time, makes it that much harder to switch to Linux.\n
\n
Why bother changing something that works and gets the job done 🤷… plus, they gotta learn new things if they did that, why make their lives harder.\n
\n
Not everyone cares about libre software… or even know it exists.\n
\n
> But I believe that we all are slowly spreading the word of Linux more and more with each year. We definitely will have a year of Linux for sure (eventually).\n
\n
If this does happen, this won’t be within a year, it will be within several years (or a decade).\n
\n
But, I do agree that there are changes in a positive direction. Most software products (slosed source ones) now have at least a Debian/Ubuntu .deb package (which wasn’t the case 10 years ago, which wasn’t that long ago) and even do customer support for Linux (but only limited to that particular flavor of Linux which they provide the packages for… not an ideal scenario, but it’s not bad either).\n
\n
So, yeah, I’m optimistic, but not too much. It might eventually happen, but not in the near future IMO.
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> No, most popular Linux distros have every GUI app you need to do your office work. What do you need? Office suite, file manager and browser? Check, check, check. Moreover, you don’t have any office preinstalled on Windows and you even have to buy it (and the OS itself), or create a Microsoft account and use online, feature- and Internet-limited version.\n
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Yes, but have you looked at how LibreOffice looks? It looks like MS Office 1997-2003. Personally, I love that, but ask any MS Office user out there that’s not into tech and just wants to get the job done, you’ll always get the same answer, MS Office post 2007 with the ribbon interface is a lot better. People are used to that. If they’d have to chose between spending a little money and learning something new, guess what, they choose spending a little money. I know, it baffles me as well, but numbers don’t lie.\n
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And they usually see the whole MS account tied with office stuff thing as a feature, not as a drawback. Sure, they don’t get to use all the tools that the sute can offer, but who needs calcs in spreadsheets or math equations in a text editor anyway, that’s for geeks 😒.\n
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Basically, if they can write a few words and insert an image here and there, that’s more than enough for most people’s needs. Sure, they pay for that, which they can get for free, but you don’t see LibreOffice ads in Windows, do you 🤷.\n
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> Side note. You don’t always need the support, and the packages themselves can and do become available on other platforms. AUR and Nix repositories are the largest ones that have community-created packages that only available on Ubuntu or Fedora, etc.\n
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Thay is what I actually meant, we kinda troubleshoot our own packages, even if they’re repackaged from a closed source deb/rpm. If the dependencies are there and compiled against whatever is needed for the package to run, I don’t really see a reason not to offer support for other distros, or at least make a subforum or whatever for those that want to repackage stuff for other distros, so they can at least gather in one place and discuss issues regarding repackaging, with some guidelines> from the support staff of the product. But unfortunatelly, that’s rarely the case, that was my point.
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Yeah, and it’s a big market… all 6% of it.\n
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My point was, systemd is not the only init system, there are others. Just because it’s used by over 90% of the Linux distros out there, doesn’t mean it’s the only one, thus offering a solution that is tied to systemd is not exactly a solution. Grub already has it figured out, why complicate things further.
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[launchpad.net/grub-customizer/](https://launchpad.net/grub-customizer/)\n
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I think that GH repo is just for reference… or maybe they (whoever made it) stopped syncing it to the main repo, IDK. 5.2.4 is the latest version and it’s released late 2023, so yeah, it’s still under active development.
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They want even those power users that are used to tweaking the OS to not tweak the OS and just get used to the new defaults (whatever they might be). A perfect example being no thin taskbar in Win11. Why? IDK, you tell me 🤷. Not everyone has a FullHD monitor (I don’t), but hey, maybe you need to buy a new one 😒. Consumerism maybe behind this, but I can’t be certain.\n
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In any case, most users will eventually get accustomed to the new defaults. Very few users will say “f this” and switch to another OS and they don’t actually care about those users, cuz they would have switched eventually anyway (if it wasn’t for this, some other thing most probably).
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Really? I think it shows the files as locked, but you can actually do whatever in root 🤔.\n
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In either case, it’s just more painless to actually let it boot all the way than to interrupt the boot process.
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> Everything just boils down that Windows was pre installed on such a huge amount of machines that “you have to be tech savvy” or whatever to use Linux.\n
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Yes, I would agree that having Windows preinstalled on almost every brand name PC/laptop there is out there is the main reason why things are what they are.\n
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But, I’d also argue that, from your everyday user’s stand point, Windows is a lot easier to get office work done. Everything is pretty much GUI based, there is no terminal in Windows (cmd and PowerShell are not the terminal, you can’t do everything you can in a GUI in the cmd or in PowerShell, and vice versa, so it’s not the same), so from a regular user’s perspective, things are simpler.\n
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> And the fact that no one wants to install anything that wasn’t installed the first time, makes it that much harder to switch to Linux.\n
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Why bother changing something that works and gets the job done 🤷… plus, they gotta learn new things if they did that, why make their lives harder.\n
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Not everyone cares about libre software… or even know it exists.\n
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> But I believe that we all are slowly spreading the word of Linux more and more with each year. We definitely will have a year of Linux for sure (eventually).\n
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If this does happen, this won’t be within a year, it will be within several years (or a decade).\n
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But, I do agree that there are changes in a positive direction. Most software products (slosed source ones) now have at least a Debian/Ubuntu .deb package (which wasn’t the case 10 years ago, which wasn’t that long ago) and even do customer support for Linux (but only limited to that particular flavor of Linux which they provide the packages for… not an ideal scenario, but it’s not bad either).\n
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So, yeah, I’m optimistic, but not too much. It might eventually happen, but not in the near future IMO.
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> No, most popular Linux distros have every GUI app you need to do your office work. What do you need? Office suite, file manager and browser? Check, check, check. Moreover, you don’t have any office preinstalled on Windows and you even have to buy it (and the OS itself), or create a Microsoft account and use online, feature- and Internet-limited version.\n
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Yes, but have you looked at how LibreOffice looks? It looks like MS Office 1997-2003. Personally, I love that, but ask any MS Office user out there that’s not into tech and just wants to get the job done, you’ll always get the same answer, MS Office post 2007 with the ribbon interface is a lot better. People are used to that. If they’d have to chose between spending a little money and learning something new, guess what, they choose spending a little money. I know, it baffles me as well, but numbers don’t lie.\n
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And they usually see the whole MS account tied with office stuff thing as a feature, not as a drawback. Sure, they don’t get to use all the tools that the sute can offer, but who needs calcs in spreadsheets or math equations in a text editor anyway, that’s for geeks 😒.\n
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Basically, if they can write a few words and insert an image here and there, that’s more than enough for most people’s needs. Sure, they pay for that, which they can get for free, but you don’t see LibreOffice ads in Windows, do you 🤷.\n
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> Side note. You don’t always need the support, and the packages themselves can and do become available on other platforms. AUR and Nix repositories are the largest ones that have community-created packages that only available on Ubuntu or Fedora, etc.\n
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Thay is what I actually meant, we kinda troubleshoot our own packages, even if they’re repackaged from a closed source deb/rpm. If the dependencies are there and compiled against whatever is needed for the package to run, I don’t really see a reason not to offer support for other distros, or at least make a subforum or whatever for those that want to repackage stuff for other distros, so they can at least gather in one place and discuss issues regarding repackaging, with some guidelines> from the support staff of the product. But unfortunatelly, that’s rarely the case, that was my point.
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Yeah, and it’s a big market… all 6% of it.\n
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My point was, systemd is not the only init system, there are others. Just because it’s used by over 90% of the Linux distros out there, doesn’t mean it’s the only one, thus offering a solution that is tied to systemd is not exactly a solution. Grub already has it figured out, why complicate things further.
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[launchpad.net/grub-customizer/](https://launchpad.net/grub-customizer/)\n
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I think that GH repo is just for reference… or maybe they (whoever made it) stopped syncing it to the main repo, IDK. 5.2.4 is the latest version and it’s released late 2023, so yeah, it’s still under active development.
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They want even those power users that are used to tweaking the OS to not tweak the OS and just get used to the new defaults (whatever they might be). A perfect example being no thin taskbar in Win11. Why? IDK, you tell me 🤷. Not everyone has a FullHD monitor (I don’t), but hey, maybe you need to buy a new one 😒. Consumerism maybe behind this, but I can’t be certain.\n
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In any case, most users will eventually get accustomed to the new defaults. Very few users will say “f this” and switch to another OS and they don’t actually care about those users, cuz they would have switched eventually anyway (if it wasn’t for this, some other thing most probably).
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Really? I think it shows the files as locked, but you can actually do whatever in root 🤔.\n
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In either case, it’s just more painless to actually let it boot all the way than to interrupt the boot process.
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> Everything just boils down that Windows was pre installed on such a huge amount of machines that “you have to be tech savvy” or whatever to use Linux.\n
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Yes, I would agree that having Windows preinstalled on almost every brand name PC/laptop there is out there is the main reason why things are what they are.\n
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But, I’d also argue that, from your everyday user’s stand point, Windows is a lot easier to get office work done. Everything is pretty much GUI based, there is no terminal in Windows (cmd and PowerShell are not the terminal, you can’t do everything you can in a GUI in the cmd or in PowerShell, and vice versa, so it’s not the same), so from a regular user’s perspective, things are simpler.\n
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> And the fact that no one wants to install anything that wasn’t installed the first time, makes it that much harder to switch to Linux.\n
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Why bother changing something that works and gets the job done 🤷… plus, they gotta learn new things if they did that, why make their lives harder.\n
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Not everyone cares about libre software… or even know it exists.\n
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> But I believe that we all are slowly spreading the word of Linux more and more with each year. We definitely will have a year of Linux for sure (eventually).\n
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If this does happen, this won’t be within a year, it will be within several years (or a decade).\n
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But, I do agree that there are changes in a positive direction. Most software products (slosed source ones) now have at least a Debian/Ubuntu .deb package (which wasn’t the case 10 years ago, which wasn’t that long ago) and even do customer support for Linux (but only limited to that particular flavor of Linux which they provide the packages for… not an ideal scenario, but it’s not bad either).\n
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So, yeah, I’m optimistic, but not too much. It might eventually happen, but not in the near future IMO.
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> No, most popular Linux distros have every GUI app you need to do your office work. What do you need? Office suite, file manager and browser? Check, check, check. Moreover, you don’t have any office preinstalled on Windows and you even have to buy it (and the OS itself), or create a Microsoft account and use online, feature- and Internet-limited version.\n
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Yes, but have you looked at how LibreOffice looks? It looks like MS Office 1997-2003. Personally, I love that, but ask any MS Office user out there that’s not into tech and just wants to get the job done, you’ll always get the same answer, MS Office post 2007 with the ribbon interface is a lot better. People are used to that. If they’d have to chose between spending a little money and learning something new, guess what, they choose spending a little money. I know, it baffles me as well, but numbers don’t lie.\n
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And they usually see the whole MS account tied with office stuff thing as a feature, not as a drawback. Sure, they don’t get to use all the tools that the sute can offer, but who needs calcs in spreadsheets or math equations in a text editor anyway, that’s for geeks 😒.\n
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Basically, if they can write a few words and insert an image here and there, that’s more than enough for most people’s needs. Sure, they pay for that, which they can get for free, but you don’t see LibreOffice ads in Windows, do you 🤷.\n
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> Side note. You don’t always need the support, and the packages themselves can and do become available on other platforms. AUR and Nix repositories are the largest ones that have community-created packages that only available on Ubuntu or Fedora, etc.\n
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Thay is what I actually meant, we kinda troubleshoot our own packages, even if they’re repackaged from a closed source deb/rpm. If the dependencies are there and compiled against whatever is needed for the package to run, I don’t really see a reason not to offer support for other distros, or at least make a subforum or whatever for those that want to repackage stuff for other distros, so they can at least gather in one place and discuss issues regarding repackaging, with some guidelines> from the support staff of the product. But unfortunatelly, that’s rarely the case, that was my point.
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Yeah, and it’s a big market… all 6% of it.\n
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My point was, systemd is not the only init system, there are others. Just because it’s used by over 90% of the Linux distros out there, doesn’t mean it’s the only one, thus offering a solution that is tied to systemd is not exactly a solution. Grub already has it figured out, why complicate things further.
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> No, most popular Linux distros have every GUI app you need to do your office work. What do you need? Office suite, file manager and browser? Check, check, check. Moreover, you don’t have any office preinstalled on Windows and you even have to buy it (and the OS itself), or create a Microsoft account and use online, feature- and Internet-limited version.\n
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Yes, but have you looked at how LibreOffice looks? It looks like MS Office 1997-2003. Personally, I love that, but ask any MS Office user out there that’s not into tech and just wants to get the job done, you’ll always get the same answer, MS Office post 2007 with the ribbon interface is a lot better. People are used to that. If they’d have to chose between spending a little money and learning something new, guess what, they choose spending a little money. I know, it baffles me as well, but numbers don’t lie.\n
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And they usually see the whole MS account tied with office stuff thing as a feature, not as a drawback. Sure, they don’t get to use all the tools that the sute can offer, but who needs calcs in spreadsheets or math equations in a text editor anyway, that’s for geeks 😒.\n
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Basically, if they can write a few words and insert an image here and there, that’s more than enough for most people’s needs. Sure, they pay for that, which they can get for free, but you don’t see LibreOffice ads in Windows, do you 🤷.\n
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> Side note. You don’t always need the support, and the packages themselves can and do become available on other platforms. AUR and Nix repositories are the largest ones that have community-created packages that only available on Ubuntu or Fedora, etc.\n
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Thay is what I actually meant, we kinda troubleshoot our own packages, even if they’re repackaged from a closed source deb/rpm. If the dependencies are there and compiled against whatever is needed for the package to run, I don’t really see a reason not to offer support for other distros, or at least make a subforum or whatever for those that want to repackage stuff for other distros, so they can at least gather in one place and discuss issues regarding repackaging, with some guidelines> from the support staff of the product. But unfortunatelly, that’s rarely the case, that was my point.
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[launchpad.net/grub-customizer/](https://launchpad.net/grub-customizer/)\n
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I think that GH repo is just for reference… or maybe they (whoever made it) stopped syncing it to the main repo, IDK. 5.2.4 is the latest version and it’s released late 2023, so yeah, it’s still under active development.
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They want even those power users that are used to tweaking the OS to not tweak the OS and just get used to the new defaults (whatever they might be). A perfect example being no thin taskbar in Win11. Why? IDK, you tell me 🤷. Not everyone has a FullHD monitor (I don’t), but hey, maybe you need to buy a new one 😒. Consumerism maybe behind this, but I can’t be certain.\n
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In any case, most users will eventually get accustomed to the new defaults. Very few users will say “f this” and switch to another OS and they don’t actually care about those users, cuz they would have switched eventually anyway (if it wasn’t for this, some other thing most probably).
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Really? I think it shows the files as locked, but you can actually do whatever in root 🤔.\n
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In either case, it’s just more painless to actually let it boot all the way than to interrupt the boot process.
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> Everything just boils down that Windows was pre installed on such a huge amount of machines that “you have to be tech savvy” or whatever to use Linux.\n
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Yes, I would agree that having Windows preinstalled on almost every brand name PC/laptop there is out there is the main reason why things are what they are.\n
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But, I’d also argue that, from your everyday user’s stand point, Windows is a lot easier to get office work done. Everything is pretty much GUI based, there is no terminal in Windows (cmd and PowerShell are not the terminal, you can’t do everything you can in a GUI in the cmd or in PowerShell, and vice versa, so it’s not the same), so from a regular user’s perspective, things are simpler.\n
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> And the fact that no one wants to install anything that wasn’t installed the first time, makes it that much harder to switch to Linux.\n
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Why bother changing something that works and gets the job done 🤷… plus, they gotta learn new things if they did that, why make their lives harder.\n
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Not everyone cares about libre software… or even know it exists.\n
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> But I believe that we all are slowly spreading the word of Linux more and more with each year. We definitely will have a year of Linux for sure (eventually).\n
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If this does happen, this won’t be within a year, it will be within several years (or a decade).\n
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But, I do agree that there are changes in a positive direction. Most software products (slosed source ones) now have at least a Debian/Ubuntu .deb package (which wasn’t the case 10 years ago, which wasn’t that long ago) and even do customer support for Linux (but only limited to that particular flavor of Linux which they provide the packages for… not an ideal scenario, but it’s not bad either).\n
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So, yeah, I’m optimistic, but not too much. It might eventually happen, but not in the near future IMO.
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Yeah, and it’s a big market… all 6% of it.\n
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My point was, systemd is not the only init system, there are others. Just because it’s used by over 90% of the Linux distros out there, doesn’t mean it’s the only one, thus offering a solution that is tied to systemd is not exactly a solution. Grub already has it figured out, why complicate things further.
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> No, most popular Linux distros have every GUI app you need to do your office work. What do you need? Office suite, file manager and browser? Check, check, check. Moreover, you don’t have any office preinstalled on Windows and you even have to buy it (and the OS itself), or create a Microsoft account and use online, feature- and Internet-limited version.\n
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Yes, but have you looked at how LibreOffice looks? It looks like MS Office 1997-2003. Personally, I love that, but ask any MS Office user out there that’s not into tech and just wants to get the job done, you’ll always get the same answer, MS Office post 2007 with the ribbon interface is a lot better. People are used to that. If they’d have to chose between spending a little money and learning something new, guess what, they choose spending a little money. I know, it baffles me as well, but numbers don’t lie.\n
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And they usually see the whole MS account tied with office stuff thing as a feature, not as a drawback. Sure, they don’t get to use all the tools that the sute can offer, but who needs calcs in spreadsheets or math equations in a text editor anyway, that’s for geeks 😒.\n
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Basically, if they can write a few words and insert an image here and there, that’s more than enough for most people’s needs. Sure, they pay for that, which they can get for free, but you don’t see LibreOffice ads in Windows, do you 🤷.\n
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> Side note. You don’t always need the support, and the packages themselves can and do become available on other platforms. AUR and Nix repositories are the largest ones that have community-created packages that only available on Ubuntu or Fedora, etc.\n
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Thay is what I actually meant, we kinda troubleshoot our own packages, even if they’re repackaged from a closed source deb/rpm. If the dependencies are there and compiled against whatever is needed for the package to run, I don’t really see a reason not to offer support for other distros, or at least make a subforum or whatever for those that want to repackage stuff for other distros, so they can at least gather in one place and discuss issues regarding repackaging, with some guidelines> from the support staff of the product. But unfortunatelly, that’s rarely the case, that was my point.
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[launchpad.net/grub-customizer/](https://launchpad.net/grub-customizer/)\n
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I think that GH repo is just for reference… or maybe they (whoever made it) stopped syncing it to the main repo, IDK. 5.2.4 is the latest version and it’s released late 2023, so yeah, it’s still under active development.
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They want even those power users that are used to tweaking the OS to not tweak the OS and just get used to the new defaults (whatever they might be). A perfect example being no thin taskbar in Win11. Why? IDK, you tell me 🤷. Not everyone has a FullHD monitor (I don’t), but hey, maybe you need to buy a new one 😒. Consumerism maybe behind this, but I can’t be certain.\n
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In any case, most users will eventually get accustomed to the new defaults. Very few users will say “f this” and switch to another OS and they don’t actually care about those users, cuz they would have switched eventually anyway (if it wasn’t for this, some other thing most probably).
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Really? I think it shows the files as locked, but you can actually do whatever in root 🤔.\n
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In either case, it’s just more painless to actually let it boot all the way than to interrupt the boot process.
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> Everything just boils down that Windows was pre installed on such a huge amount of machines that “you have to be tech savvy” or whatever to use Linux.\n
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Yes, I would agree that having Windows preinstalled on almost every brand name PC/laptop there is out there is the main reason why things are what they are.\n
\n
But, I’d also argue that, from your everyday user’s stand point, Windows is a lot easier to get office work done. Everything is pretty much GUI based, there is no terminal in Windows (cmd and PowerShell are not the terminal, you can’t do everything you can in a GUI in the cmd or in PowerShell, and vice versa, so it’s not the same), so from a regular user’s perspective, things are simpler.\n
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> And the fact that no one wants to install anything that wasn’t installed the first time, makes it that much harder to switch to Linux.\n
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Why bother changing something that works and gets the job done 🤷… plus, they gotta learn new things if they did that, why make their lives harder.\n
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Not everyone cares about libre software… or even know it exists.\n
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> But I believe that we all are slowly spreading the word of Linux more and more with each year. We definitely will have a year of Linux for sure (eventually).\n
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If this does happen, this won’t be within a year, it will be within several years (or a decade).\n
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But, I do agree that there are changes in a positive direction. Most software products (slosed source ones) now have at least a Debian/Ubuntu .deb package (which wasn’t the case 10 years ago, which wasn’t that long ago) and even do customer support for Linux (but only limited to that particular flavor of Linux which they provide the packages for… not an ideal scenario, but it’s not bad either).\n
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So, yeah, I’m optimistic, but not too much. It might eventually happen, but not in the near future IMO.
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Yeah, and it’s a big market… all 6% of it.\n
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My point was, systemd is not the only init system, there are others. Just because it’s used by over 90% of the Linux distros out there, doesn’t mean it’s the only one, thus offering a solution that is tied to systemd is not exactly a solution. Grub already has it figured out, why complicate things further.
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> No, most popular Linux distros have every GUI app you need to do your office work. What do you need? Office suite, file manager and browser? Check, check, check. Moreover, you don’t have any office preinstalled on Windows and you even have to buy it (and the OS itself), or create a Microsoft account and use online, feature- and Internet-limited version.\n
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Yes, but have you looked at how LibreOffice looks? It looks like MS Office 1997-2003. Personally, I love that, but ask any MS Office user out there that’s not into tech and just wants to get the job done, you’ll always get the same answer, MS Office post 2007 with the ribbon interface is a lot better. People are used to that. If they’d have to chose between spending a little money and learning something new, guess what, they choose spending a little money. I know, it baffles me as well, but numbers don’t lie.\n
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And they usually see the whole MS account tied with office stuff thing as a feature, not as a drawback. Sure, they don’t get to use all the tools that the sute can offer, but who needs calcs in spreadsheets or math equations in a text editor anyway, that’s for geeks 😒.\n
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Basically, if they can write a few words and insert an image here and there, that’s more than enough for most people’s needs. Sure, they pay for that, which they can get for free, but you don’t see LibreOffice ads in Windows, do you 🤷.\n
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> Side note. You don’t always need the support, and the packages themselves can and do become available on other platforms. AUR and Nix repositories are the largest ones that have community-created packages that only available on Ubuntu or Fedora, etc.\n
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Thay is what I actually meant, we kinda troubleshoot our own packages, even if they’re repackaged from a closed source deb/rpm. If the dependencies are there and compiled against whatever is needed for the package to run, I don’t really see a reason not to offer support for other distros, or at least make a subforum or whatever for those that want to repackage stuff for other distros, so they can at least gather in one place and discuss issues regarding repackaging, with some guidelines> from the support staff of the product. But unfortunatelly, that’s rarely the case, that was my point.
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[launchpad.net/grub-customizer/](https://launchpad.net/grub-customizer/)\n
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I think that GH repo is just for reference… or maybe they (whoever made it) stopped syncing it to the main repo, IDK. 5.2.4 is the latest version and it’s released late 2023, so yeah, it’s still under active development.
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They want even those power users that are used to tweaking the OS to not tweak the OS and just get used to the new defaults (whatever they might be). A perfect example being no thin taskbar in Win11. Why? IDK, you tell me 🤷. Not everyone has a FullHD monitor (I don’t), but hey, maybe you need to buy a new one 😒. Consumerism maybe behind this, but I can’t be certain.\n
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In any case, most users will eventually get accustomed to the new defaults. Very few users will say “f this” and switch to another OS and they don’t actually care about those users, cuz they would have switched eventually anyway (if it wasn’t for this, some other thing most probably).
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Really? I think it shows the files as locked, but you can actually do whatever in root 🤔.\n
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In either case, it’s just more painless to actually let it boot all the way than to interrupt the boot process.
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> Everything just boils down that Windows was pre installed on such a huge amount of machines that “you have to be tech savvy” or whatever to use Linux.\n
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Yes, I would agree that having Windows preinstalled on almost every brand name PC/laptop there is out there is the main reason why things are what they are.\n
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But, I’d also argue that, from your everyday user’s stand point, Windows is a lot easier to get office work done. Everything is pretty much GUI based, there is no terminal in Windows (cmd and PowerShell are not the terminal, you can’t do everything you can in a GUI in the cmd or in PowerShell, and vice versa, so it’s not the same), so from a regular user’s perspective, things are simpler.\n
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> And the fact that no one wants to install anything that wasn’t installed the first time, makes it that much harder to switch to Linux.\n
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Why bother changing something that works and gets the job done 🤷… plus, they gotta learn new things if they did that, why make their lives harder.\n
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Not everyone cares about libre software… or even know it exists.\n
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> But I believe that we all are slowly spreading the word of Linux more and more with each year. We definitely will have a year of Linux for sure (eventually).\n
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If this does happen, this won’t be within a year, it will be within several years (or a decade).\n
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But, I do agree that there are changes in a positive direction. Most software products (slosed source ones) now have at least a Debian/Ubuntu .deb package (which wasn’t the case 10 years ago, which wasn’t that long ago) and even do customer support for Linux (but only limited to that particular flavor of Linux which they provide the packages for… not an ideal scenario, but it’s not bad either).\n
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So, yeah, I’m optimistic, but not too much. It might eventually happen, but not in the near future IMO.
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Yeah, and it’s a big market… all 6% of it.\n
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My point was, systemd is not the only init system, there are others. Just because it’s used by over 90% of the Linux distros out there, doesn’t mean it’s the only one, thus offering a solution that is tied to systemd is not exactly a solution. Grub already has it figured out, why complicate things further.
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> No, most popular Linux distros have every GUI app you need to do your office work. What do you need? Office suite, file manager and browser? Check, check, check. Moreover, you don’t have any office preinstalled on Windows and you even have to buy it (and the OS itself), or create a Microsoft account and use online, feature- and Internet-limited version.\n
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Yes, but have you looked at how LibreOffice looks? It looks like MS Office 1997-2003. Personally, I love that, but ask any MS Office user out there that’s not into tech and just wants to get the job done, you’ll always get the same answer, MS Office post 2007 with the ribbon interface is a lot better. People are used to that. If they’d have to chose between spending a little money and learning something new, guess what, they choose spending a little money. I know, it baffles me as well, but numbers don’t lie.\n
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And they usually see the whole MS account tied with office stuff thing as a feature, not as a drawback. Sure, they don’t get to use all the tools that the sute can offer, but who needs calcs in spreadsheets or math equations in a text editor anyway, that’s for geeks 😒.\n
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Basically, if they can write a few words and insert an image here and there, that’s more than enough for most people’s needs. Sure, they pay for that, which they can get for free, but you don’t see LibreOffice ads in Windows, do you 🤷.\n
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> Side note. You don’t always need the support, and the packages themselves can and do become available on other platforms. AUR and Nix repositories are the largest ones that have community-created packages that only available on Ubuntu or Fedora, etc.\n
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Thay is what I actually meant, we kinda troubleshoot our own packages, even if they’re repackaged from a closed source deb/rpm. If the dependencies are there and compiled against whatever is needed for the package to run, I don’t really see a reason not to offer support for other distros, or at least make a subforum or whatever for those that want to repackage stuff for other distros, so they can at least gather in one place and discuss issues regarding repackaging, with some guidelines> from the support staff of the product. But unfortunatelly, that’s rarely the case, that was my point.
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[launchpad.net/grub-customizer/](https://launchpad.net/grub-customizer/)\n
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I think that GH repo is just for reference… or maybe they (whoever made it) stopped syncing it to the main repo, IDK. 5.2.4 is the latest version and it’s released late 2023, so yeah, it’s still under active development.
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They want even those power users that are used to tweaking the OS to not tweak the OS and just get used to the new defaults (whatever they might be). A perfect example being no thin taskbar in Win11. Why? IDK, you tell me 🤷. Not everyone has a FullHD monitor (I don’t), but hey, maybe you need to buy a new one 😒. Consumerism maybe behind this, but I can’t be certain.\n
\n
In any case, most users will eventually get accustomed to the new defaults. Very few users will say “f this” and switch to another OS and they don’t actually care about those users, cuz they would have switched eventually anyway (if it wasn’t for this, some other thing most probably).
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Really? I think it shows the files as locked, but you can actually do whatever in root 🤔.\n
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In either case, it’s just more painless to actually let it boot all the way than to interrupt the boot process.
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> Everything just boils down that Windows was pre installed on such a huge amount of machines that “you have to be tech savvy” or whatever to use Linux.\n
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Yes, I would agree that having Windows preinstalled on almost every brand name PC/laptop there is out there is the main reason why things are what they are.\n
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But, I’d also argue that, from your everyday user’s stand point, Windows is a lot easier to get office work done. Everything is pretty much GUI based, there is no terminal in Windows (cmd and PowerShell are not the terminal, you can’t do everything you can in a GUI in the cmd or in PowerShell, and vice versa, so it’s not the same), so from a regular user’s perspective, things are simpler.\n
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> And the fact that no one wants to install anything that wasn’t installed the first time, makes it that much harder to switch to Linux.\n
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Why bother changing something that works and gets the job done 🤷… plus, they gotta learn new things if they did that, why make their lives harder.\n
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Not everyone cares about libre software… or even know it exists.\n
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> But I believe that we all are slowly spreading the word of Linux more and more with each year. We definitely will have a year of Linux for sure (eventually).\n
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If this does happen, this won’t be within a year, it will be within several years (or a decade).\n
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But, I do agree that there are changes in a positive direction. Most software products (slosed source ones) now have at least a Debian/Ubuntu .deb package (which wasn’t the case 10 years ago, which wasn’t that long ago) and even do customer support for Linux (but only limited to that particular flavor of Linux which they provide the packages for… not an ideal scenario, but it’s not bad either).\n
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So, yeah, I’m optimistic, but not too much. It might eventually happen, but not in the near future IMO.
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Yeah, and it’s a big market… all 6% of it.\n
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My point was, systemd is not the only init system, there are others. Just because it’s used by over 90% of the Linux distros out there, doesn’t mean it’s the only one, thus offering a solution that is tied to systemd is not exactly a solution. Grub already has it figured out, why complicate things further.
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> No, most popular Linux distros have every GUI app you need to do your office work. What do you need? Office suite, file manager and browser? Check, check, check. Moreover, you don’t have any office preinstalled on Windows and you even have to buy it (and the OS itself), or create a Microsoft account and use online, feature- and Internet-limited version.\n
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Yes, but have you looked at how LibreOffice looks? It looks like MS Office 1997-2003. Personally, I love that, but ask any MS Office user out there that’s not into tech and just wants to get the job done, you’ll always get the same answer, MS Office post 2007 with the ribbon interface is a lot better. People are used to that. If they’d have to chose between spending a little money and learning something new, guess what, they choose spending a little money. I know, it baffles me as well, but numbers don’t lie.\n
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And they usually see the whole MS account tied with office stuff thing as a feature, not as a drawback. Sure, they don’t get to use all the tools that the sute can offer, but who needs calcs in spreadsheets or math equations in a text editor anyway, that’s for geeks 😒.\n
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Basically, if they can write a few words and insert an image here and there, that’s more than enough for most people’s needs. Sure, they pay for that, which they can get for free, but you don’t see LibreOffice ads in Windows, do you 🤷.\n
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> Side note. You don’t always need the support, and the packages themselves can and do become available on other platforms. AUR and Nix repositories are the largest ones that have community-created packages that only available on Ubuntu or Fedora, etc.\n
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Thay is what I actually meant, we kinda troubleshoot our own packages, even if they’re repackaged from a closed source deb/rpm. If the dependencies are there and compiled against whatever is needed for the package to run, I don’t really see a reason not to offer support for other distros, or at least make a subforum or whatever for those that want to repackage stuff for other distros, so they can at least gather in one place and discuss issues regarding repackaging, with some guidelines> from the support staff of the product. But unfortunatelly, that’s rarely the case, that was my point.
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[launchpad.net/grub-customizer/](https://launchpad.net/grub-customizer/)\n
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I think that GH repo is just for reference… or maybe they (whoever made it) stopped syncing it to the main repo, IDK. 5.2.4 is the latest version and it’s released late 2023, so yeah, it’s still under active development.
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They want even those power users that are used to tweaking the OS to not tweak the OS and just get used to the new defaults (whatever they might be). A perfect example being no thin taskbar in Win11. Why? IDK, you tell me 🤷. Not everyone has a FullHD monitor (I don’t), but hey, maybe you need to buy a new one 😒. Consumerism maybe behind this, but I can’t be certain.\n
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In any case, most users will eventually get accustomed to the new defaults. Very few users will say “f this” and switch to another OS and they don’t actually care about those users, cuz they would have switched eventually anyway (if it wasn’t for this, some other thing most probably).
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Really? I think it shows the files as locked, but you can actually do whatever in root 🤔.\n
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In either case, it’s just more painless to actually let it boot all the way than to interrupt the boot process.
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> Everything just boils down that Windows was pre installed on such a huge amount of machines that “you have to be tech savvy” or whatever to use Linux.\n
\n
Yes, I would agree that having Windows preinstalled on almost every brand name PC/laptop there is out there is the main reason why things are what they are.\n
\n
But, I’d also argue that, from your everyday user’s stand point, Windows is a lot easier to get office work done. Everything is pretty much GUI based, there is no terminal in Windows (cmd and PowerShell are not the terminal, you can’t do everything you can in a GUI in the cmd or in PowerShell, and vice versa, so it’s not the same), so from a regular user’s perspective, things are simpler.\n
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> And the fact that no one wants to install anything that wasn’t installed the first time, makes it that much harder to switch to Linux.\n
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Why bother changing something that works and gets the job done 🤷… plus, they gotta learn new things if they did that, why make their lives harder.\n
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Not everyone cares about libre software… or even know it exists.\n
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> But I believe that we all are slowly spreading the word of Linux more and more with each year. We definitely will have a year of Linux for sure (eventually).\n
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If this does happen, this won’t be within a year, it will be within several years (or a decade).\n
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But, I do agree that there are changes in a positive direction. Most software products (slosed source ones) now have at least a Debian/Ubuntu .deb package (which wasn’t the case 10 years ago, which wasn’t that long ago) and even do customer support for Linux (but only limited to that particular flavor of Linux which they provide the packages for… not an ideal scenario, but it’s not bad either).\n
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So, yeah, I’m optimistic, but not too much. It might eventually happen, but not in the near future IMO.
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Yeah, and it’s a big market… all 6% of it.\n
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My point was, systemd is not the only init system, there are others. Just because it’s used by over 90% of the Linux distros out there, doesn’t mean it’s the only one, thus offering a solution that is tied to systemd is not exactly a solution. Grub already has it figured out, why complicate things further.
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> No, most popular Linux distros have every GUI app you need to do your office work. What do you need? Office suite, file manager and browser? Check, check, check. Moreover, you don’t have any office preinstalled on Windows and you even have to buy it (and the OS itself), or create a Microsoft account and use online, feature- and Internet-limited version.\n
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Yes, but have you looked at how LibreOffice looks? It looks like MS Office 1997-2003. Personally, I love that, but ask any MS Office user out there that’s not into tech and just wants to get the job done, you’ll always get the same answer, MS Office post 2007 with the ribbon interface is a lot better. People are used to that. If they’d have to chose between spending a little money and learning something new, guess what, they choose spending a little money. I know, it baffles me as well, but numbers don’t lie.\n
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And they usually see the whole MS account tied with office stuff thing as a feature, not as a drawback. Sure, they don’t get to use all the tools that the sute can offer, but who needs calcs in spreadsheets or math equations in a text editor anyway, that’s for geeks 😒.\n
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Basically, if they can write a few words and insert an image here and there, that’s more than enough for most people’s needs. Sure, they pay for that, which they can get for free, but you don’t see LibreOffice ads in Windows, do you 🤷.\n
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> Side note. You don’t always need the support, and the packages themselves can and do become available on other platforms. AUR and Nix repositories are the largest ones that have community-created packages that only available on Ubuntu or Fedora, etc.\n
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Thay is what I actually meant, we kinda troubleshoot our own packages, even if they’re repackaged from a closed source deb/rpm. If the dependencies are there and compiled against whatever is needed for the package to run, I don’t really see a reason not to offer support for other distros, or at least make a subforum or whatever for those that want to repackage stuff for other distros, so they can at least gather in one place and discuss issues regarding repackaging, with some guidelines> from the support staff of the product. But unfortunatelly, that’s rarely the case, that was my point.
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[launchpad.net/grub-customizer/](https://launchpad.net/grub-customizer/)\n
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I think that GH repo is just for reference… or maybe they (whoever made it) stopped syncing it to the main repo, IDK. 5.2.4 is the latest version and it’s released late 2023, so yeah, it’s still under active development.
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They want even those power users that are used to tweaking the OS to not tweak the OS and just get used to the new defaults (whatever they might be). A perfect example being no thin taskbar in Win11. Why? IDK, you tell me 🤷. Not everyone has a FullHD monitor (I don’t), but hey, maybe you need to buy a new one 😒. Consumerism maybe behind this, but I can’t be certain.\n
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In any case, most users will eventually get accustomed to the new defaults. Very few users will say “f this” and switch to another OS and they don’t actually care about those users, cuz they would have switched eventually anyway (if it wasn’t for this, some other thing most probably).
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Really? I think it shows the files as locked, but you can actually do whatever in root 🤔.\n
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In either case, it’s just more painless to actually let it boot all the way than to interrupt the boot process.
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> Everything just boils down that Windows was pre installed on such a huge amount of machines that “you have to be tech savvy” or whatever to use Linux.\n
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Yes, I would agree that having Windows preinstalled on almost every brand name PC/laptop there is out there is the main reason why things are what they are.\n
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But, I’d also argue that, from your everyday user’s stand point, Windows is a lot easier to get office work done. Everything is pretty much GUI based, there is no terminal in Windows (cmd and PowerShell are not the terminal, you can’t do everything you can in a GUI in the cmd or in PowerShell, and vice versa, so it’s not the same), so from a regular user’s perspective, things are simpler.\n
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> And the fact that no one wants to install anything that wasn’t installed the first time, makes it that much harder to switch to Linux.\n
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Why bother changing something that works and gets the job done 🤷… plus, they gotta learn new things if they did that, why make their lives harder.\n
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Not everyone cares about libre software… or even know it exists.\n
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> But I believe that we all are slowly spreading the word of Linux more and more with each year. We definitely will have a year of Linux for sure (eventually).\n
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If this does happen, this won’t be within a year, it will be within several years (or a decade).\n
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But, I do agree that there are changes in a positive direction. Most software products (slosed source ones) now have at least a Debian/Ubuntu .deb package (which wasn’t the case 10 years ago, which wasn’t that long ago) and even do customer support for Linux (but only limited to that particular flavor of Linux which they provide the packages for… not an ideal scenario, but it’s not bad either).\n
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So, yeah, I’m optimistic, but not too much. It might eventually happen, but not in the near future IMO.
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Yeah, and it’s a big market… all 6% of it.\n
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My point was, systemd is not the only init system, there are others. Just because it’s used by over 90% of the Linux distros out there, doesn’t mean it’s the only one, thus offering a solution that is tied to systemd is not exactly a solution. Grub already has it figured out, why complicate things further.
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> No, most popular Linux distros have every GUI app you need to do your office work. What do you need? Office suite, file manager and browser? Check, check, check. Moreover, you don’t have any office preinstalled on Windows and you even have to buy it (and the OS itself), or create a Microsoft account and use online, feature- and Internet-limited version.\n
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Yes, but have you looked at how LibreOffice looks? It looks like MS Office 1997-2003. Personally, I love that, but ask any MS Office user out there that’s not into tech and just wants to get the job done, you’ll always get the same answer, MS Office post 2007 with the ribbon interface is a lot better. People are used to that. If they’d have to chose between spending a little money and learning something new, guess what, they choose spending a little money. I know, it baffles me as well, but numbers don’t lie.\n
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And they usually see the whole MS account tied with office stuff thing as a feature, not as a drawback. Sure, they don’t get to use all the tools that the sute can offer, but who needs calcs in spreadsheets or math equations in a text editor anyway, that’s for geeks 😒.\n
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Basically, if they can write a few words and insert an image here and there, that’s more than enough for most people’s needs. Sure, they pay for that, which they can get for free, but you don’t see LibreOffice ads in Windows, do you 🤷.\n
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> Side note. You don’t always need the support, and the packages themselves can and do become available on other platforms. AUR and Nix repositories are the largest ones that have community-created packages that only available on Ubuntu or Fedora, etc.\n
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Thay is what I actually meant, we kinda troubleshoot our own packages, even if they’re repackaged from a closed source deb/rpm. If the dependencies are there and compiled against whatever is needed for the package to run, I don’t really see a reason not to offer support for other distros, or at least make a subforum or whatever for those that want to repackage stuff for other distros, so they can at least gather in one place and discuss issues regarding repackaging, with some guidelines> from the support staff of the product. But unfortunatelly, that’s rarely the case, that was my point.
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They want even those power users that are used to tweaking the OS to not tweak the OS and just get used to the new defaults (whatever they might be). A perfect example being no thin taskbar in Win11. Why? IDK, you tell me 🤷. Not everyone has a FullHD monitor (I don’t), but hey, maybe you need to buy a new one 😒. Consumerism maybe behind this, but I can’t be certain.\n
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In any case, most users will eventually get accustomed to the new defaults. Very few users will say “f this” and switch to another OS and they don’t actually care about those users, cuz they would have switched eventually anyway (if it wasn’t for this, some other thing most probably).
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Really? I think it shows the files as locked, but you can actually do whatever in root 🤔.\n
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In either case, it’s just more painless to actually let it boot all the way than to interrupt the boot process.
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> Everything just boils down that Windows was pre installed on such a huge amount of machines that “you have to be tech savvy” or whatever to use Linux.\n
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Yes, I would agree that having Windows preinstalled on almost every brand name PC/laptop there is out there is the main reason why things are what they are.\n
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But, I’d also argue that, from your everyday user’s stand point, Windows is a lot easier to get office work done. Everything is pretty much GUI based, there is no terminal in Windows (cmd and PowerShell are not the terminal, you can’t do everything you can in a GUI in the cmd or in PowerShell, and vice versa, so it’s not the same), so from a regular user’s perspective, things are simpler.\n
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> And the fact that no one wants to install anything that wasn’t installed the first time, makes it that much harder to switch to Linux.\n
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Why bother changing something that works and gets the job done 🤷… plus, they gotta learn new things if they did that, why make their lives harder.\n
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Not everyone cares about libre software… or even know it exists.\n
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> But I believe that we all are slowly spreading the word of Linux more and more with each year. We definitely will have a year of Linux for sure (eventually).\n
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If this does happen, this won’t be within a year, it will be within several years (or a decade).\n
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But, I do agree that there are changes in a positive direction. Most software products (slosed source ones) now have at least a Debian/Ubuntu .deb package (which wasn’t the case 10 years ago, which wasn’t that long ago) and even do customer support for Linux (but only limited to that particular flavor of Linux which they provide the packages for… not an ideal scenario, but it’s not bad either).\n
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So, yeah, I’m optimistic, but not too much. It might eventually happen, but not in the near future IMO.
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[launchpad.net/grub-customizer/](https://launchpad.net/grub-customizer/)\n
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I think that GH repo is just for reference… or maybe they (whoever made it) stopped syncing it to the main repo, IDK. 5.2.4 is the latest version and it’s released late 2023, so yeah, it’s still under active development.
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Yeah, and it’s a big market… all 6% of it.\n
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My point was, systemd is not the only init system, there are others. Just because it’s used by over 90% of the Linux distros out there, doesn’t mean it’s the only one, thus offering a solution that is tied to systemd is not exactly a solution. Grub already has it figured out, why complicate things further.
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> No, most popular Linux distros have every GUI app you need to do your office work. What do you need? Office suite, file manager and browser? Check, check, check. Moreover, you don’t have any office preinstalled on Windows and you even have to buy it (and the OS itself), or create a Microsoft account and use online, feature- and Internet-limited version.\n
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Yes, but have you looked at how LibreOffice looks? It looks like MS Office 1997-2003. Personally, I love that, but ask any MS Office user out there that’s not into tech and just wants to get the job done, you’ll always get the same answer, MS Office post 2007 with the ribbon interface is a lot better. People are used to that. If they’d have to chose between spending a little money and learning something new, guess what, they choose spending a little money. I know, it baffles me as well, but numbers don’t lie.\n
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And they usually see the whole MS account tied with office stuff thing as a feature, not as a drawback. Sure, they don’t get to use all the tools that the sute can offer, but who needs calcs in spreadsheets or math equations in a text editor anyway, that’s for geeks 😒.\n
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Basically, if they can write a few words and insert an image here and there, that’s more than enough for most people’s needs. Sure, they pay for that, which they can get for free, but you don’t see LibreOffice ads in Windows, do you 🤷.\n
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> Side note. You don’t always need the support, and the packages themselves can and do become available on other platforms. AUR and Nix repositories are the largest ones that have community-created packages that only available on Ubuntu or Fedora, etc.\n
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Thay is what I actually meant, we kinda troubleshoot our own packages, even if they’re repackaged from a closed source deb/rpm. If the dependencies are there and compiled against whatever is needed for the package to run, I don’t really see a reason not to offer support for other distros, or at least make a subforum or whatever for those that want to repackage stuff for other distros, so they can at least gather in one place and discuss issues regarding repackaging, with some guidelines> from the support staff of the product. But unfortunatelly, that’s rarely the case, that was my point.
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They want even those power users that are used to tweaking the OS to not tweak the OS and just get used to the new defaults (whatever they might be). A perfect example being no thin taskbar in Win11. Why? IDK, you tell me 🤷. Not everyone has a FullHD monitor (I don’t), but hey, maybe you need to buy a new one 😒. Consumerism maybe behind this, but I can’t be certain.\n
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In any case, most users will eventually get accustomed to the new defaults. Very few users will say “f this” and switch to another OS and they don’t actually care about those users, cuz they would have switched eventually anyway (if it wasn’t for this, some other thing most probably).
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Really? I think it shows the files as locked, but you can actually do whatever in root 🤔.\n
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In either case, it’s just more painless to actually let it boot all the way than to interrupt the boot process.
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> Everything just boils down that Windows was pre installed on such a huge amount of machines that “you have to be tech savvy” or whatever to use Linux.\n
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Yes, I would agree that having Windows preinstalled on almost every brand name PC/laptop there is out there is the main reason why things are what they are.\n
\n
But, I’d also argue that, from your everyday user’s stand point, Windows is a lot easier to get office work done. Everything is pretty much GUI based, there is no terminal in Windows (cmd and PowerShell are not the terminal, you can’t do everything you can in a GUI in the cmd or in PowerShell, and vice versa, so it’s not the same), so from a regular user’s perspective, things are simpler.\n
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> And the fact that no one wants to install anything that wasn’t installed the first time, makes it that much harder to switch to Linux.\n
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Why bother changing something that works and gets the job done 🤷… plus, they gotta learn new things if they did that, why make their lives harder.\n
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Not everyone cares about libre software… or even know it exists.\n
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> But I believe that we all are slowly spreading the word of Linux more and more with each year. We definitely will have a year of Linux for sure (eventually).\n
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If this does happen, this won’t be within a year, it will be within several years (or a decade).\n
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But, I do agree that there are changes in a positive direction. Most software products (slosed source ones) now have at least a Debian/Ubuntu .deb package (which wasn’t the case 10 years ago, which wasn’t that long ago) and even do customer support for Linux (but only limited to that particular flavor of Linux which they provide the packages for… not an ideal scenario, but it’s not bad either).\n
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So, yeah, I’m optimistic, but not too much. It might eventually happen, but not in the near future IMO.
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[launchpad.net/grub-customizer/](https://launchpad.net/grub-customizer/)\n
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I think that GH repo is just for reference… or maybe they (whoever made it) stopped syncing it to the main repo, IDK. 5.2.4 is the latest version and it’s released late 2023, so yeah, it’s still under active development.
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Yeah, and it’s a big market… all 6% of it.\n
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My point was, systemd is not the only init system, there are others. Just because it’s used by over 90% of the Linux distros out there, doesn’t mean it’s the only one, thus offering a solution that is tied to systemd is not exactly a solution. Grub already has it figured out, why complicate things further.
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> No, most popular Linux distros have every GUI app you need to do your office work. What do you need? Office suite, file manager and browser? Check, check, check. Moreover, you don’t have any office preinstalled on Windows and you even have to buy it (and the OS itself), or create a Microsoft account and use online, feature- and Internet-limited version.\n
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Yes, but have you looked at how LibreOffice looks? It looks like MS Office 1997-2003. Personally, I love that, but ask any MS Office user out there that’s not into tech and just wants to get the job done, you’ll always get the same answer, MS Office post 2007 with the ribbon interface is a lot better. People are used to that. If they’d have to chose between spending a little money and learning something new, guess what, they choose spending a little money. I know, it baffles me as well, but numbers don’t lie.\n
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And they usually see the whole MS account tied with office stuff thing as a feature, not as a drawback. Sure, they don’t get to use all the tools that the sute can offer, but who needs calcs in spreadsheets or math equations in a text editor anyway, that’s for geeks 😒.\n
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Basically, if they can write a few words and insert an image here and there, that’s more than enough for most people’s needs. Sure, they pay for that, which they can get for free, but you don’t see LibreOffice ads in Windows, do you 🤷.\n
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> Side note. You don’t always need the support, and the packages themselves can and do become available on other platforms. AUR and Nix repositories are the largest ones that have community-created packages that only available on Ubuntu or Fedora, etc.\n
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Thay is what I actually meant, we kinda troubleshoot our own packages, even if they’re repackaged from a closed source deb/rpm. If the dependencies are there and compiled against whatever is needed for the package to run, I don’t really see a reason not to offer support for other distros, or at least make a subforum or whatever for those that want to repackage stuff for other distros, so they can at least gather in one place and discuss issues regarding repackaging, with some guidelines> from the support staff of the product. But unfortunatelly, that’s rarely the case, that was my point.
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They want even those power users that are used to tweaking the OS to not tweak the OS and just get used to the new defaults (whatever they might be). A perfect example being no thin taskbar in Win11. Why? IDK, you tell me 🤷. Not everyone has a FullHD monitor (I don’t), but hey, maybe you need to buy a new one 😒. Consumerism maybe behind this, but I can’t be certain.\n
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In any case, most users will eventually get accustomed to the new defaults. Very few users will say “f this” and switch to another OS and they don’t actually care about those users, cuz they would have switched eventually anyway (if it wasn’t for this, some other thing most probably).
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Really? I think it shows the files as locked, but you can actually do whatever in root 🤔.\n
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In either case, it’s just more painless to actually let it boot all the way than to interrupt the boot process.
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> Everything just boils down that Windows was pre installed on such a huge amount of machines that “you have to be tech savvy” or whatever to use Linux.\n
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Yes, I would agree that having Windows preinstalled on almost every brand name PC/laptop there is out there is the main reason why things are what they are.\n
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But, I’d also argue that, from your everyday user’s stand point, Windows is a lot easier to get office work done. Everything is pretty much GUI based, there is no terminal in Windows (cmd and PowerShell are not the terminal, you can’t do everything you can in a GUI in the cmd or in PowerShell, and vice versa, so it’s not the same), so from a regular user’s perspective, things are simpler.\n
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> And the fact that no one wants to install anything that wasn’t installed the first time, makes it that much harder to switch to Linux.\n
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Why bother changing something that works and gets the job done 🤷… plus, they gotta learn new things if they did that, why make their lives harder.\n
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Not everyone cares about libre software… or even know it exists.\n
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> But I believe that we all are slowly spreading the word of Linux more and more with each year. We definitely will have a year of Linux for sure (eventually).\n
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If this does happen, this won’t be within a year, it will be within several years (or a decade).\n
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But, I do agree that there are changes in a positive direction. Most software products (slosed source ones) now have at least a Debian/Ubuntu .deb package (which wasn’t the case 10 years ago, which wasn’t that long ago) and even do customer support for Linux (but only limited to that particular flavor of Linux which they provide the packages for… not an ideal scenario, but it’s not bad either).\n
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So, yeah, I’m optimistic, but not too much. It might eventually happen, but not in the near future IMO.
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[launchpad.net/grub-customizer/](https://launchpad.net/grub-customizer/)\n
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I think that GH repo is just for reference… or maybe they (whoever made it) stopped syncing it to the main repo, IDK. 5.2.4 is the latest version and it’s released late 2023, so yeah, it’s still under active development.
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Yeah, and it’s a big market… all 6% of it.\n
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My point was, systemd is not the only init system, there are others. Just because it’s used by over 90% of the Linux distros out there, doesn’t mean it’s the only one, thus offering a solution that is tied to systemd is not exactly a solution. Grub already has it figured out, why complicate things further.
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> No, most popular Linux distros have every GUI app you need to do your office work. What do you need? Office suite, file manager and browser? Check, check, check. Moreover, you don’t have any office preinstalled on Windows and you even have to buy it (and the OS itself), or create a Microsoft account and use online, feature- and Internet-limited version.\n
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Yes, but have you looked at how LibreOffice looks? It looks like MS Office 1997-2003. Personally, I love that, but ask any MS Office user out there that’s not into tech and just wants to get the job done, you’ll always get the same answer, MS Office post 2007 with the ribbon interface is a lot better. People are used to that. If they’d have to chose between spending a little money and learning something new, guess what, they choose spending a little money. I know, it baffles me as well, but numbers don’t lie.\n
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And they usually see the whole MS account tied with office stuff thing as a feature, not as a drawback. Sure, they don’t get to use all the tools that the sute can offer, but who needs calcs in spreadsheets or math equations in a text editor anyway, that’s for geeks 😒.\n
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Basically, if they can write a few words and insert an image here and there, that’s more than enough for most people’s needs. Sure, they pay for that, which they can get for free, but you don’t see LibreOffice ads in Windows, do you 🤷.\n
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> Side note. You don’t always need the support, and the packages themselves can and do become available on other platforms. AUR and Nix repositories are the largest ones that have community-created packages that only available on Ubuntu or Fedora, etc.\n
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Thay is what I actually meant, we kinda troubleshoot our own packages, even if they’re repackaged from a closed source deb/rpm. If the dependencies are there and compiled against whatever is needed for the package to run, I don’t really see a reason not to offer support for other distros, or at least make a subforum or whatever for those that want to repackage stuff for other distros, so they can at least gather in one place and discuss issues regarding repackaging, with some guidelines> from the support staff of the product. But unfortunatelly, that’s rarely the case, that was my point.
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[launchpad.net/grub-customizer/](https://launchpad.net/grub-customizer/)\n
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I think that GH repo is just for reference… or maybe they (whoever made it) stopped syncing it to the main repo, IDK. 5.2.4 is the latest version and it’s released late 2023, so yeah, it’s still under active development.
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Really? I think it shows the files as locked, but you can actually do whatever in root 🤔.\n
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In either case, it’s just more painless to actually let it boot all the way than to interrupt the boot process.
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> Everything just boils down that Windows was pre installed on such a huge amount of machines that “you have to be tech savvy” or whatever to use Linux.\n
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Yes, I would agree that having Windows preinstalled on almost every brand name PC/laptop there is out there is the main reason why things are what they are.\n
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But, I’d also argue that, from your everyday user’s stand point, Windows is a lot easier to get office work done. Everything is pretty much GUI based, there is no terminal in Windows (cmd and PowerShell are not the terminal, you can’t do everything you can in a GUI in the cmd or in PowerShell, and vice versa, so it’s not the same), so from a regular user’s perspective, things are simpler.\n
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> And the fact that no one wants to install anything that wasn’t installed the first time, makes it that much harder to switch to Linux.\n
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Why bother changing something that works and gets the job done 🤷… plus, they gotta learn new things if they did that, why make their lives harder.\n
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Not everyone cares about libre software… or even know it exists.\n
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> But I believe that we all are slowly spreading the word of Linux more and more with each year. We definitely will have a year of Linux for sure (eventually).\n
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If this does happen, this won’t be within a year, it will be within several years (or a decade).\n
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But, I do agree that there are changes in a positive direction. Most software products (slosed source ones) now have at least a Debian/Ubuntu .deb package (which wasn’t the case 10 years ago, which wasn’t that long ago) and even do customer support for Linux (but only limited to that particular flavor of Linux which they provide the packages for… not an ideal scenario, but it’s not bad either).\n
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So, yeah, I’m optimistic, but not too much. It might eventually happen, but not in the near future IMO.
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They want even those power users that are used to tweaking the OS to not tweak the OS and just get used to the new defaults (whatever they might be). A perfect example being no thin taskbar in Win11. Why? IDK, you tell me 🤷. Not everyone has a FullHD monitor (I don’t), but hey, maybe you need to buy a new one 😒. Consumerism maybe behind this, but I can’t be certain.\n
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In any case, most users will eventually get accustomed to the new defaults. Very few users will say “f this” and switch to another OS and they don’t actually care about those users, cuz they would have switched eventually anyway (if it wasn’t for this, some other thing most probably).
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Yeah, and it’s a big market… all 6% of it.\n
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My point was, systemd is not the only init system, there are others. Just because it’s used by over 90% of the Linux distros out there, doesn’t mean it’s the only one, thus offering a solution that is tied to systemd is not exactly a solution. Grub already has it figured out, why complicate things further.
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> No, most popular Linux distros have every GUI app you need to do your office work. What do you need? Office suite, file manager and browser? Check, check, check. Moreover, you don’t have any office preinstalled on Windows and you even have to buy it (and the OS itself), or create a Microsoft account and use online, feature- and Internet-limited version.\n
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Yes, but have you looked at how LibreOffice looks? It looks like MS Office 1997-2003. Personally, I love that, but ask any MS Office user out there that’s not into tech and just wants to get the job done, you’ll always get the same answer, MS Office post 2007 with the ribbon interface is a lot better. People are used to that. If they’d have to chose between spending a little money and learning something new, guess what, they choose spending a little money. I know, it baffles me as well, but numbers don’t lie.\n
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And they usually see the whole MS account tied with office stuff thing as a feature, not as a drawback. Sure, they don’t get to use all the tools that the sute can offer, but who needs calcs in spreadsheets or math equations in a text editor anyway, that’s for geeks 😒.\n
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Basically, if they can write a few words and insert an image here and there, that’s more than enough for most people’s needs. Sure, they pay for that, which they can get for free, but you don’t see LibreOffice ads in Windows, do you 🤷.\n
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> Side note. You don’t always need the support, and the packages themselves can and do become available on other platforms. AUR and Nix repositories are the largest ones that have community-created packages that only available on Ubuntu or Fedora, etc.\n
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Thay is what I actually meant, we kinda troubleshoot our own packages, even if they’re repackaged from a closed source deb/rpm. If the dependencies are there and compiled against whatever is needed for the package to run, I don’t really see a reason not to offer support for other distros, or at least make a subforum or whatever for those that want to repackage stuff for other distros, so they can at least gather in one place and discuss issues regarding repackaging, with some guidelines> from the support staff of the product. But unfortunatelly, that’s rarely the case, that was my point.
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[launchpad.net/grub-customizer/](https://launchpad.net/grub-customizer/)\n
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I think that GH repo is just for reference… or maybe they (whoever made it) stopped syncing it to the main repo, IDK. 5.2.4 is the latest version and it’s released late 2023, so yeah, it’s still under active development.
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Really? I think it shows the files as locked, but you can actually do whatever in root 🤔.\n
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In either case, it’s just more painless to actually let it boot all the way than to interrupt the boot process.
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> Everything just boils down that Windows was pre installed on such a huge amount of machines that “you have to be tech savvy” or whatever to use Linux.\n
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Yes, I would agree that having Windows preinstalled on almost every brand name PC/laptop there is out there is the main reason why things are what they are.\n
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But, I’d also argue that, from your everyday user’s stand point, Windows is a lot easier to get office work done. Everything is pretty much GUI based, there is no terminal in Windows (cmd and PowerShell are not the terminal, you can’t do everything you can in a GUI in the cmd or in PowerShell, and vice versa, so it’s not the same), so from a regular user’s perspective, things are simpler.\n
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> And the fact that no one wants to install anything that wasn’t installed the first time, makes it that much harder to switch to Linux.\n
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Why bother changing something that works and gets the job done 🤷… plus, they gotta learn new things if they did that, why make their lives harder.\n
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Not everyone cares about libre software… or even know it exists.\n
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> But I believe that we all are slowly spreading the word of Linux more and more with each year. We definitely will have a year of Linux for sure (eventually).\n
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If this does happen, this won’t be within a year, it will be within several years (or a decade).\n
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But, I do agree that there are changes in a positive direction. Most software products (slosed source ones) now have at least a Debian/Ubuntu .deb package (which wasn’t the case 10 years ago, which wasn’t that long ago) and even do customer support for Linux (but only limited to that particular flavor of Linux which they provide the packages for… not an ideal scenario, but it’s not bad either).\n
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So, yeah, I’m optimistic, but not too much. It might eventually happen, but not in the near future IMO.
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They want even those power users that are used to tweaking the OS to not tweak the OS and just get used to the new defaults (whatever they might be). A perfect example being no thin taskbar in Win11. Why? IDK, you tell me 🤷. Not everyone has a FullHD monitor (I don’t), but hey, maybe you need to buy a new one 😒. Consumerism maybe behind this, but I can’t be certain.\n
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In any case, most users will eventually get accustomed to the new defaults. Very few users will say “f this” and switch to another OS and they don’t actually care about those users, cuz they would have switched eventually anyway (if it wasn’t for this, some other thing most probably).
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Yeah, and it’s a big market… all 6% of it.\n
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My point was, systemd is not the only init system, there are others. Just because it’s used by over 90% of the Linux distros out there, doesn’t mean it’s the only one, thus offering a solution that is tied to systemd is not exactly a solution. Grub already has it figured out, why complicate things further.
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> No, most popular Linux distros have every GUI app you need to do your office work. What do you need? Office suite, file manager and browser? Check, check, check. Moreover, you don’t have any office preinstalled on Windows and you even have to buy it (and the OS itself), or create a Microsoft account and use online, feature- and Internet-limited version.\n
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Yes, but have you looked at how LibreOffice looks? It looks like MS Office 1997-2003. Personally, I love that, but ask any MS Office user out there that’s not into tech and just wants to get the job done, you’ll always get the same answer, MS Office post 2007 with the ribbon interface is a lot better. People are used to that. If they’d have to chose between spending a little money and learning something new, guess what, they choose spending a little money. I know, it baffles me as well, but numbers don’t lie.\n
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And they usually see the whole MS account tied with office stuff thing as a feature, not as a drawback. Sure, they don’t get to use all the tools that the sute can offer, but who needs calcs in spreadsheets or math equations in a text editor anyway, that’s for geeks 😒.\n
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Basically, if they can write a few words and insert an image here and there, that’s more than enough for most people’s needs. Sure, they pay for that, which they can get for free, but you don’t see LibreOffice ads in Windows, do you 🤷.\n
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> Side note. You don’t always need the support, and the packages themselves can and do become available on other platforms. AUR and Nix repositories are the largest ones that have community-created packages that only available on Ubuntu or Fedora, etc.\n
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Thay is what I actually meant, we kinda troubleshoot our own packages, even if they’re repackaged from a closed source deb/rpm. If the dependencies are there and compiled against whatever is needed for the package to run, I don’t really see a reason not to offer support for other distros, or at least make a subforum or whatever for those that want to repackage stuff for other distros, so they can at least gather in one place and discuss issues regarding repackaging, with some guidelines> from the support staff of the product. But unfortunatelly, that’s rarely the case, that was my point.
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[launchpad.net/grub-customizer/](https://launchpad.net/grub-customizer/)\n
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I think that GH repo is just for reference… or maybe they (whoever made it) stopped syncing it to the main repo, IDK. 5.2.4 is the latest version and it’s released late 2023, so yeah, it’s still under active development.
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Really? I think it shows the files as locked, but you can actually do whatever in root 🤔.\n
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In either case, it’s just more painless to actually let it boot all the way than to interrupt the boot process.
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> Everything just boils down that Windows was pre installed on such a huge amount of machines that “you have to be tech savvy” or whatever to use Linux.\n
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Yes, I would agree that having Windows preinstalled on almost every brand name PC/laptop there is out there is the main reason why things are what they are.\n
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But, I’d also argue that, from your everyday user’s stand point, Windows is a lot easier to get office work done. Everything is pretty much GUI based, there is no terminal in Windows (cmd and PowerShell are not the terminal, you can’t do everything you can in a GUI in the cmd or in PowerShell, and vice versa, so it’s not the same), so from a regular user’s perspective, things are simpler.\n
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> And the fact that no one wants to install anything that wasn’t installed the first time, makes it that much harder to switch to Linux.\n
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Why bother changing something that works and gets the job done 🤷… plus, they gotta learn new things if they did that, why make their lives harder.\n
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Not everyone cares about libre software… or even know it exists.\n
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> But I believe that we all are slowly spreading the word of Linux more and more with each year. We definitely will have a year of Linux for sure (eventually).\n
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If this does happen, this won’t be within a year, it will be within several years (or a decade).\n
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But, I do agree that there are changes in a positive direction. Most software products (slosed source ones) now have at least a Debian/Ubuntu .deb package (which wasn’t the case 10 years ago, which wasn’t that long ago) and even do customer support for Linux (but only limited to that particular flavor of Linux which they provide the packages for… not an ideal scenario, but it’s not bad either).\n
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So, yeah, I’m optimistic, but not too much. It might eventually happen, but not in the near future IMO.
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They want even those power users that are used to tweaking the OS to not tweak the OS and just get used to the new defaults (whatever they might be). A perfect example being no thin taskbar in Win11. Why? IDK, you tell me 🤷. Not everyone has a FullHD monitor (I don’t), but hey, maybe you need to buy a new one 😒. Consumerism maybe behind this, but I can’t be certain.\n
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In any case, most users will eventually get accustomed to the new defaults. Very few users will say “f this” and switch to another OS and they don’t actually care about those users, cuz they would have switched eventually anyway (if it wasn’t for this, some other thing most probably).
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Yeah, and it’s a big market… all 6% of it.\n
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My point was, systemd is not the only init system, there are others. Just because it’s used by over 90% of the Linux distros out there, doesn’t mean it’s the only one, thus offering a solution that is tied to systemd is not exactly a solution. Grub already has it figured out, why complicate things further.
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> No, most popular Linux distros have every GUI app you need to do your office work. What do you need? Office suite, file manager and browser? Check, check, check. Moreover, you don’t have any office preinstalled on Windows and you even have to buy it (and the OS itself), or create a Microsoft account and use online, feature- and Internet-limited version.\n
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Yes, but have you looked at how LibreOffice looks? It looks like MS Office 1997-2003. Personally, I love that, but ask any MS Office user out there that’s not into tech and just wants to get the job done, you’ll always get the same answer, MS Office post 2007 with the ribbon interface is a lot better. People are used to that. If they’d have to chose between spending a little money and learning something new, guess what, they choose spending a little money. I know, it baffles me as well, but numbers don’t lie.\n
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And they usually see the whole MS account tied with office stuff thing as a feature, not as a drawback. Sure, they don’t get to use all the tools that the sute can offer, but who needs calcs in spreadsheets or math equations in a text editor anyway, that’s for geeks 😒.\n
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Basically, if they can write a few words and insert an image here and there, that’s more than enough for most people’s needs. Sure, they pay for that, which they can get for free, but you don’t see LibreOffice ads in Windows, do you 🤷.\n
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> Side note. You don’t always need the support, and the packages themselves can and do become available on other platforms. AUR and Nix repositories are the largest ones that have community-created packages that only available on Ubuntu or Fedora, etc.\n
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Thay is what I actually meant, we kinda troubleshoot our own packages, even if they’re repackaged from a closed source deb/rpm. If the dependencies are there and compiled against whatever is needed for the package to run, I don’t really see a reason not to offer support for other distros, or at least make a subforum or whatever for those that want to repackage stuff for other distros, so they can at least gather in one place and discuss issues regarding repackaging, with some guidelines> from the support staff of the product. But unfortunatelly, that’s rarely the case, that was my point.
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[launchpad.net/grub-customizer/](https://launchpad.net/grub-customizer/)\n
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I think that GH repo is just for reference… or maybe they (whoever made it) stopped syncing it to the main repo, IDK. 5.2.4 is the latest version and it’s released late 2023, so yeah, it’s still under active development.
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They want even those power users that are used to tweaking the OS to not tweak the OS and just get used to the new defaults (whatever they might be). A perfect example being no thin taskbar in Win11. Why? IDK, you tell me 🤷. Not everyone has a FullHD monitor (I don’t), but hey, maybe you need to buy a new one 😒. Consumerism maybe behind this, but I can’t be certain.\n
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In any case, most users will eventually get accustomed to the new defaults. Very few users will say “f this” and switch to another OS and they don’t actually care about those users, cuz they would have switched eventually anyway (if it wasn’t for this, some other thing most probably).
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Really? I think it shows the files as locked, but you can actually do whatever in root 🤔.\n
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In either case, it’s just more painless to actually let it boot all the way than to interrupt the boot process.
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> Everything just boils down that Windows was pre installed on such a huge amount of machines that “you have to be tech savvy” or whatever to use Linux.\n
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Yes, I would agree that having Windows preinstalled on almost every brand name PC/laptop there is out there is the main reason why things are what they are.\n
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But, I’d also argue that, from your everyday user’s stand point, Windows is a lot easier to get office work done. Everything is pretty much GUI based, there is no terminal in Windows (cmd and PowerShell are not the terminal, you can’t do everything you can in a GUI in the cmd or in PowerShell, and vice versa, so it’s not the same), so from a regular user’s perspective, things are simpler.\n
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> And the fact that no one wants to install anything that wasn’t installed the first time, makes it that much harder to switch to Linux.\n
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Why bother changing something that works and gets the job done 🤷… plus, they gotta learn new things if they did that, why make their lives harder.\n
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Not everyone cares about libre software… or even know it exists.\n
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> But I believe that we all are slowly spreading the word of Linux more and more with each year. We definitely will have a year of Linux for sure (eventually).\n
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If this does happen, this won’t be within a year, it will be within several years (or a decade).\n
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But, I do agree that there are changes in a positive direction. Most software products (slosed source ones) now have at least a Debian/Ubuntu .deb package (which wasn’t the case 10 years ago, which wasn’t that long ago) and even do customer support for Linux (but only limited to that particular flavor of Linux which they provide the packages for… not an ideal scenario, but it’s not bad either).\n
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So, yeah, I’m optimistic, but not too much. It might eventually happen, but not in the near future IMO.
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Yeah, and it’s a big market… all 6% of it.\n
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My point was, systemd is not the only init system, there are others. Just because it’s used by over 90% of the Linux distros out there, doesn’t mean it’s the only one, thus offering a solution that is tied to systemd is not exactly a solution. Grub already has it figured out, why complicate things further.
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> No, most popular Linux distros have every GUI app you need to do your office work. What do you need? Office suite, file manager and browser? Check, check, check. Moreover, you don’t have any office preinstalled on Windows and you even have to buy it (and the OS itself), or create a Microsoft account and use online, feature- and Internet-limited version.\n
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Yes, but have you looked at how LibreOffice looks? It looks like MS Office 1997-2003. Personally, I love that, but ask any MS Office user out there that’s not into tech and just wants to get the job done, you’ll always get the same answer, MS Office post 2007 with the ribbon interface is a lot better. People are used to that. If they’d have to chose between spending a little money and learning something new, guess what, they choose spending a little money. I know, it baffles me as well, but numbers don’t lie.\n
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And they usually see the whole MS account tied with office stuff thing as a feature, not as a drawback. Sure, they don’t get to use all the tools that the sute can offer, but who needs calcs in spreadsheets or math equations in a text editor anyway, that’s for geeks 😒.\n
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Basically, if they can write a few words and insert an image here and there, that’s more than enough for most people’s needs. Sure, they pay for that, which they can get for free, but you don’t see LibreOffice ads in Windows, do you 🤷.\n
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> Side note. You don’t always need the support, and the packages themselves can and do become available on other platforms. AUR and Nix repositories are the largest ones that have community-created packages that only available on Ubuntu or Fedora, etc.\n
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Thay is what I actually meant, we kinda troubleshoot our own packages, even if they’re repackaged from a closed source deb/rpm. If the dependencies are there and compiled against whatever is needed for the package to run, I don’t really see a reason not to offer support for other distros, or at least make a subforum or whatever for those that want to repackage stuff for other distros, so they can at least gather in one place and discuss issues regarding repackaging, with some guidelines> from the support staff of the product. But unfortunatelly, that’s rarely the case, that was my point.
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[launchpad.net/grub-customizer/](https://launchpad.net/grub-customizer/)\n
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I think that GH repo is just for reference… or maybe they (whoever made it) stopped syncing it to the main repo, IDK. 5.2.4 is the latest version and it’s released late 2023, so yeah, it’s still under active development.
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They want even those power users that are used to tweaking the OS to not tweak the OS and just get used to the new defaults (whatever they might be). A perfect example being no thin taskbar in Win11. Why? IDK, you tell me 🤷. Not everyone has a FullHD monitor (I don’t), but hey, maybe you need to buy a new one 😒. Consumerism maybe behind this, but I can’t be certain.\n
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In any case, most users will eventually get accustomed to the new defaults. Very few users will say “f this” and switch to another OS and they don’t actually care about those users, cuz they would have switched eventually anyway (if it wasn’t for this, some other thing most probably).
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Really? I think it shows the files as locked, but you can actually do whatever in root 🤔.\n
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In either case, it’s just more painless to actually let it boot all the way than to interrupt the boot process.
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> Everything just boils down that Windows was pre installed on such a huge amount of machines that “you have to be tech savvy” or whatever to use Linux.\n
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Yes, I would agree that having Windows preinstalled on almost every brand name PC/laptop there is out there is the main reason why things are what they are.\n
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But, I’d also argue that, from your everyday user’s stand point, Windows is a lot easier to get office work done. Everything is pretty much GUI based, there is no terminal in Windows (cmd and PowerShell are not the terminal, you can’t do everything you can in a GUI in the cmd or in PowerShell, and vice versa, so it’s not the same), so from a regular user’s perspective, things are simpler.\n
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> And the fact that no one wants to install anything that wasn’t installed the first time, makes it that much harder to switch to Linux.\n
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Why bother changing something that works and gets the job done 🤷… plus, they gotta learn new things if they did that, why make their lives harder.\n
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Not everyone cares about libre software… or even know it exists.\n
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> But I believe that we all are slowly spreading the word of Linux more and more with each year. We definitely will have a year of Linux for sure (eventually).\n
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If this does happen, this won’t be within a year, it will be within several years (or a decade).\n
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But, I do agree that there are changes in a positive direction. Most software products (slosed source ones) now have at least a Debian/Ubuntu .deb package (which wasn’t the case 10 years ago, which wasn’t that long ago) and even do customer support for Linux (but only limited to that particular flavor of Linux which they provide the packages for… not an ideal scenario, but it’s not bad either).\n
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So, yeah, I’m optimistic, but not too much. It might eventually happen, but not in the near future IMO.
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Yeah, and it’s a big market… all 6% of it.\n
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My point was, systemd is not the only init system, there are others. Just because it’s used by over 90% of the Linux distros out there, doesn’t mean it’s the only one, thus offering a solution that is tied to systemd is not exactly a solution. Grub already has it figured out, why complicate things further.
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> No, most popular Linux distros have every GUI app you need to do your office work. What do you need? Office suite, file manager and browser? Check, check, check. Moreover, you don’t have any office preinstalled on Windows and you even have to buy it (and the OS itself), or create a Microsoft account and use online, feature- and Internet-limited version.\n
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Yes, but have you looked at how LibreOffice looks? It looks like MS Office 1997-2003. Personally, I love that, but ask any MS Office user out there that’s not into tech and just wants to get the job done, you’ll always get the same answer, MS Office post 2007 with the ribbon interface is a lot better. People are used to that. If they’d have to chose between spending a little money and learning something new, guess what, they choose spending a little money. I know, it baffles me as well, but numbers don’t lie.\n
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And they usually see the whole MS account tied with office stuff thing as a feature, not as a drawback. Sure, they don’t get to use all the tools that the sute can offer, but who needs calcs in spreadsheets or math equations in a text editor anyway, that’s for geeks 😒.\n
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Basically, if they can write a few words and insert an image here and there, that’s more than enough for most people’s needs. Sure, they pay for that, which they can get for free, but you don’t see LibreOffice ads in Windows, do you 🤷.\n
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> Side note. You don’t always need the support, and the packages themselves can and do become available on other platforms. AUR and Nix repositories are the largest ones that have community-created packages that only available on Ubuntu or Fedora, etc.\n
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Thay is what I actually meant, we kinda troubleshoot our own packages, even if they’re repackaged from a closed source deb/rpm. If the dependencies are there and compiled against whatever is needed for the package to run, I don’t really see a reason not to offer support for other distros, or at least make a subforum or whatever for those that want to repackage stuff for other distros, so they can at least gather in one place and discuss issues regarding repackaging, with some guidelines> from the support staff of the product. But unfortunatelly, that’s rarely the case, that was my point.
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[launchpad.net/grub-customizer/](https://launchpad.net/grub-customizer/)\n
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I think that GH repo is just for reference… or maybe they (whoever made it) stopped syncing it to the main repo, IDK. 5.2.4 is the latest version and it’s released late 2023, so yeah, it’s still under active development.
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They want even those power users that are used to tweaking the OS to not tweak the OS and just get used to the new defaults (whatever they might be). A perfect example being no thin taskbar in Win11. Why? IDK, you tell me 🤷. Not everyone has a FullHD monitor (I don’t), but hey, maybe you need to buy a new one 😒. Consumerism maybe behind this, but I can’t be certain.\n
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In any case, most users will eventually get accustomed to the new defaults. Very few users will say “f this” and switch to another OS and they don’t actually care about those users, cuz they would have switched eventually anyway (if it wasn’t for this, some other thing most probably).
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Really? I think it shows the files as locked, but you can actually do whatever in root 🤔.\n
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In either case, it’s just more painless to actually let it boot all the way than to interrupt the boot process.
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> Everything just boils down that Windows was pre installed on such a huge amount of machines that “you have to be tech savvy” or whatever to use Linux.\n
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Yes, I would agree that having Windows preinstalled on almost every brand name PC/laptop there is out there is the main reason why things are what they are.\n
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But, I’d also argue that, from your everyday user’s stand point, Windows is a lot easier to get office work done. Everything is pretty much GUI based, there is no terminal in Windows (cmd and PowerShell are not the terminal, you can’t do everything you can in a GUI in the cmd or in PowerShell, and vice versa, so it’s not the same), so from a regular user’s perspective, things are simpler.\n
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> And the fact that no one wants to install anything that wasn’t installed the first time, makes it that much harder to switch to Linux.\n
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Why bother changing something that works and gets the job done 🤷… plus, they gotta learn new things if they did that, why make their lives harder.\n
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Not everyone cares about libre software… or even know it exists.\n
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> But I believe that we all are slowly spreading the word of Linux more and more with each year. We definitely will have a year of Linux for sure (eventually).\n
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If this does happen, this won’t be within a year, it will be within several years (or a decade).\n
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But, I do agree that there are changes in a positive direction. Most software products (slosed source ones) now have at least a Debian/Ubuntu .deb package (which wasn’t the case 10 years ago, which wasn’t that long ago) and even do customer support for Linux (but only limited to that particular flavor of Linux which they provide the packages for… not an ideal scenario, but it’s not bad either).\n
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So, yeah, I’m optimistic, but not too much. It might eventually happen, but not in the near future IMO.
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Yeah, and it’s a big market… all 6% of it.\n
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My point was, systemd is not the only init system, there are others. Just because it’s used by over 90% of the Linux distros out there, doesn’t mean it’s the only one, thus offering a solution that is tied to systemd is not exactly a solution. Grub already has it figured out, why complicate things further.
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> No, most popular Linux distros have every GUI app you need to do your office work. What do you need? Office suite, file manager and browser? Check, check, check. Moreover, you don’t have any office preinstalled on Windows and you even have to buy it (and the OS itself), or create a Microsoft account and use online, feature- and Internet-limited version.\n
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Yes, but have you looked at how LibreOffice looks? It looks like MS Office 1997-2003. Personally, I love that, but ask any MS Office user out there that’s not into tech and just wants to get the job done, you’ll always get the same answer, MS Office post 2007 with the ribbon interface is a lot better. People are used to that. If they’d have to chose between spending a little money and learning something new, guess what, they choose spending a little money. I know, it baffles me as well, but numbers don’t lie.\n
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And they usually see the whole MS account tied with office stuff thing as a feature, not as a drawback. Sure, they don’t get to use all the tools that the sute can offer, but who needs calcs in spreadsheets or math equations in a text editor anyway, that’s for geeks 😒.\n
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Basically, if they can write a few words and insert an image here and there, that’s more than enough for most people’s needs. Sure, they pay for that, which they can get for free, but you don’t see LibreOffice ads in Windows, do you 🤷.\n
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> Side note. You don’t always need the support, and the packages themselves can and do become available on other platforms. AUR and Nix repositories are the largest ones that have community-created packages that only available on Ubuntu or Fedora, etc.\n
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Thay is what I actually meant, we kinda troubleshoot our own packages, even if they’re repackaged from a closed source deb/rpm. If the dependencies are there and compiled against whatever is needed for the package to run, I don’t really see a reason not to offer support for other distros, or at least make a subforum or whatever for those that want to repackage stuff for other distros, so they can at least gather in one place and discuss issues regarding repackaging, with some guidelines> from the support staff of the product. But unfortunatelly, that’s rarely the case, that was my point.
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[launchpad.net/grub-customizer/](https://launchpad.net/grub-customizer/)\n
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I think that GH repo is just for reference… or maybe they (whoever made it) stopped syncing it to the main repo, IDK. 5.2.4 is the latest version and it’s released late 2023, so yeah, it’s still under active development.
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They want even those power users that are used to tweaking the OS to not tweak the OS and just get used to the new defaults (whatever they might be). A perfect example being no thin taskbar in Win11. Why? IDK, you tell me 🤷. Not everyone has a FullHD monitor (I don’t), but hey, maybe you need to buy a new one 😒. Consumerism maybe behind this, but I can’t be certain.\n
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In any case, most users will eventually get accustomed to the new defaults. Very few users will say “f this” and switch to another OS and they don’t actually care about those users, cuz they would have switched eventually anyway (if it wasn’t for this, some other thing most probably).
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> Everything just boils down that Windows was pre installed on such a huge amount of machines that “you have to be tech savvy” or whatever to use Linux.\n
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Yes, I would agree that having Windows preinstalled on almost every brand name PC/laptop there is out there is the main reason why things are what they are.\n
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But, I’d also argue that, from your everyday user’s stand point, Windows is a lot easier to get office work done. Everything is pretty much GUI based, there is no terminal in Windows (cmd and PowerShell are not the terminal, you can’t do everything you can in a GUI in the cmd or in PowerShell, and vice versa, so it’s not the same), so from a regular user’s perspective, things are simpler.\n
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> And the fact that no one wants to install anything that wasn’t installed the first time, makes it that much harder to switch to Linux.\n
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Why bother changing something that works and gets the job done 🤷… plus, they gotta learn new things if they did that, why make their lives harder.\n
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Not everyone cares about libre software… or even know it exists.\n
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> But I believe that we all are slowly spreading the word of Linux more and more with each year. We definitely will have a year of Linux for sure (eventually).\n
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If this does happen, this won’t be within a year, it will be within several years (or a decade).\n
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But, I do agree that there are changes in a positive direction. Most software products (slosed source ones) now have at least a Debian/Ubuntu .deb package (which wasn’t the case 10 years ago, which wasn’t that long ago) and even do customer support for Linux (but only limited to that particular flavor of Linux which they provide the packages for… not an ideal scenario, but it’s not bad either).\n
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So, yeah, I’m optimistic, but not too much. It might eventually happen, but not in the near future IMO.
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Really? I think it shows the files as locked, but you can actually do whatever in root 🤔.\n
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In either case, it’s just more painless to actually let it boot all the way than to interrupt the boot process.
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Yeah, and it’s a big market… all 6% of it.\n
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My point was, systemd is not the only init system, there are others. Just because it’s used by over 90% of the Linux distros out there, doesn’t mean it’s the only one, thus offering a solution that is tied to systemd is not exactly a solution. Grub already has it figured out, why complicate things further.
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> No, most popular Linux distros have every GUI app you need to do your office work. What do you need? Office suite, file manager and browser? Check, check, check. Moreover, you don’t have any office preinstalled on Windows and you even have to buy it (and the OS itself), or create a Microsoft account and use online, feature- and Internet-limited version.\n
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Yes, but have you looked at how LibreOffice looks? It looks like MS Office 1997-2003. Personally, I love that, but ask any MS Office user out there that’s not into tech and just wants to get the job done, you’ll always get the same answer, MS Office post 2007 with the ribbon interface is a lot better. People are used to that. If they’d have to chose between spending a little money and learning something new, guess what, they choose spending a little money. I know, it baffles me as well, but numbers don’t lie.\n
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And they usually see the whole MS account tied with office stuff thing as a feature, not as a drawback. Sure, they don’t get to use all the tools that the sute can offer, but who needs calcs in spreadsheets or math equations in a text editor anyway, that’s for geeks 😒.\n
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Basically, if they can write a few words and insert an image here and there, that’s more than enough for most people’s needs. Sure, they pay for that, which they can get for free, but you don’t see LibreOffice ads in Windows, do you 🤷.\n
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> Side note. You don’t always need the support, and the packages themselves can and do become available on other platforms. AUR and Nix repositories are the largest ones that have community-created packages that only available on Ubuntu or Fedora, etc.\n
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Thay is what I actually meant, we kinda troubleshoot our own packages, even if they’re repackaged from a closed source deb/rpm. If the dependencies are there and compiled against whatever is needed for the package to run, I don’t really see a reason not to offer support for other distros, or at least make a subforum or whatever for those that want to repackage stuff for other distros, so they can at least gather in one place and discuss issues regarding repackaging, with some guidelines> from the support staff of the product. But unfortunatelly, that’s rarely the case, that was my point.
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[launchpad.net/grub-customizer/](https://launchpad.net/grub-customizer/)\n
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I think that GH repo is just for reference… or maybe they (whoever made it) stopped syncing it to the main repo, IDK. 5.2.4 is the latest version and it’s released late 2023, so yeah, it’s still under active development.
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They want even those power users that are used to tweaking the OS to not tweak the OS and just get used to the new defaults (whatever they might be). A perfect example being no thin taskbar in Win11. Why? IDK, you tell me 🤷. Not everyone has a FullHD monitor (I don’t), but hey, maybe you need to buy a new one 😒. Consumerism maybe behind this, but I can’t be certain.\n
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In any case, most users will eventually get accustomed to the new defaults. Very few users will say “f this” and switch to another OS and they don’t actually care about those users, cuz they would have switched eventually anyway (if it wasn’t for this, some other thing most probably).
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> Everything just boils down that Windows was pre installed on such a huge amount of machines that “you have to be tech savvy” or whatever to use Linux.\n
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Yes, I would agree that having Windows preinstalled on almost every brand name PC/laptop there is out there is the main reason why things are what they are.\n
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But, I’d also argue that, from your everyday user’s stand point, Windows is a lot easier to get office work done. Everything is pretty much GUI based, there is no terminal in Windows (cmd and PowerShell are not the terminal, you can’t do everything you can in a GUI in the cmd or in PowerShell, and vice versa, so it’s not the same), so from a regular user’s perspective, things are simpler.\n
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> And the fact that no one wants to install anything that wasn’t installed the first time, makes it that much harder to switch to Linux.\n
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Why bother changing something that works and gets the job done 🤷… plus, they gotta learn new things if they did that, why make their lives harder.\n
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Not everyone cares about libre software… or even know it exists.\n
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> But I believe that we all are slowly spreading the word of Linux more and more with each year. We definitely will have a year of Linux for sure (eventually).\n
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If this does happen, this won’t be within a year, it will be within several years (or a decade).\n
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But, I do agree that there are changes in a positive direction. Most software products (slosed source ones) now have at least a Debian/Ubuntu .deb package (which wasn’t the case 10 years ago, which wasn’t that long ago) and even do customer support for Linux (but only limited to that particular flavor of Linux which they provide the packages for… not an ideal scenario, but it’s not bad either).\n
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So, yeah, I’m optimistic, but not too much. It might eventually happen, but not in the near future IMO.
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Really? I think it shows the files as locked, but you can actually do whatever in root 🤔.\n
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In either case, it’s just more painless to actually let it boot all the way than to interrupt the boot process.
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Yeah, and it’s a big market… all 6% of it.\n
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My point was, systemd is not the only init system, there are others. Just because it’s used by over 90% of the Linux distros out there, doesn’t mean it’s the only one, thus offering a solution that is tied to systemd is not exactly a solution. Grub already has it figured out, why complicate things further.
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> No, most popular Linux distros have every GUI app you need to do your office work. What do you need? Office suite, file manager and browser? Check, check, check. Moreover, you don’t have any office preinstalled on Windows and you even have to buy it (and the OS itself), or create a Microsoft account and use online, feature- and Internet-limited version.\n
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Yes, but have you looked at how LibreOffice looks? It looks like MS Office 1997-2003. Personally, I love that, but ask any MS Office user out there that’s not into tech and just wants to get the job done, you’ll always get the same answer, MS Office post 2007 with the ribbon interface is a lot better. People are used to that. If they’d have to chose between spending a little money and learning something new, guess what, they choose spending a little money. I know, it baffles me as well, but numbers don’t lie.\n
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And they usually see the whole MS account tied with office stuff thing as a feature, not as a drawback. Sure, they don’t get to use all the tools that the sute can offer, but who needs calcs in spreadsheets or math equations in a text editor anyway, that’s for geeks 😒.\n
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Basically, if they can write a few words and insert an image here and there, that’s more than enough for most people’s needs. Sure, they pay for that, which they can get for free, but you don’t see LibreOffice ads in Windows, do you 🤷.\n
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> Side note. You don’t always need the support, and the packages themselves can and do become available on other platforms. AUR and Nix repositories are the largest ones that have community-created packages that only available on Ubuntu or Fedora, etc.\n
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Thay is what I actually meant, we kinda troubleshoot our own packages, even if they’re repackaged from a closed source deb/rpm. If the dependencies are there and compiled against whatever is needed for the package to run, I don’t really see a reason not to offer support for other distros, or at least make a subforum or whatever for those that want to repackage stuff for other distros, so they can at least gather in one place and discuss issues regarding repackaging, with some guidelines> from the support staff of the product. But unfortunatelly, that’s rarely the case, that was my point.
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[launchpad.net/grub-customizer/](https://launchpad.net/grub-customizer/)\n
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I think that GH repo is just for reference… or maybe they (whoever made it) stopped syncing it to the main repo, IDK. 5.2.4 is the latest version and it’s released late 2023, so yeah, it’s still under active development.
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They want even those power users that are used to tweaking the OS to not tweak the OS and just get used to the new defaults (whatever they might be). A perfect example being no thin taskbar in Win11. Why? IDK, you tell me 🤷. Not everyone has a FullHD monitor (I don’t), but hey, maybe you need to buy a new one 😒. Consumerism maybe behind this, but I can’t be certain.\n
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In any case, most users will eventually get accustomed to the new defaults. Very few users will say “f this” and switch to another OS and they don’t actually care about those users, cuz they would have switched eventually anyway (if it wasn’t for this, some other thing most probably).
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> Everything just boils down that Windows was pre installed on such a huge amount of machines that “you have to be tech savvy” or whatever to use Linux.\n
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Yes, I would agree that having Windows preinstalled on almost every brand name PC/laptop there is out there is the main reason why things are what they are.\n
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But, I’d also argue that, from your everyday user’s stand point, Windows is a lot easier to get office work done. Everything is pretty much GUI based, there is no terminal in Windows (cmd and PowerShell are not the terminal, you can’t do everything you can in a GUI in the cmd or in PowerShell, and vice versa, so it’s not the same), so from a regular user’s perspective, things are simpler.\n
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> And the fact that no one wants to install anything that wasn’t installed the first time, makes it that much harder to switch to Linux.\n
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Why bother changing something that works and gets the job done 🤷… plus, they gotta learn new things if they did that, why make their lives harder.\n
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Not everyone cares about libre software… or even know it exists.\n
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> But I believe that we all are slowly spreading the word of Linux more and more with each year. We definitely will have a year of Linux for sure (eventually).\n
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If this does happen, this won’t be within a year, it will be within several years (or a decade).\n
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But, I do agree that there are changes in a positive direction. Most software products (slosed source ones) now have at least a Debian/Ubuntu .deb package (which wasn’t the case 10 years ago, which wasn’t that long ago) and even do customer support for Linux (but only limited to that particular flavor of Linux which they provide the packages for… not an ideal scenario, but it’s not bad either).\n
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So, yeah, I’m optimistic, but not too much. It might eventually happen, but not in the near future IMO.
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Really? I think it shows the files as locked, but you can actually do whatever in root 🤔.\n
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In either case, it’s just more painless to actually let it boot all the way than to interrupt the boot process.
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Yeah, and it’s a big market… all 6% of it.\n
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My point was, systemd is not the only init system, there are others. Just because it’s used by over 90% of the Linux distros out there, doesn’t mean it’s the only one, thus offering a solution that is tied to systemd is not exactly a solution. Grub already has it figured out, why complicate things further.
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> No, most popular Linux distros have every GUI app you need to do your office work. What do you need? Office suite, file manager and browser? Check, check, check. Moreover, you don’t have any office preinstalled on Windows and you even have to buy it (and the OS itself), or create a Microsoft account and use online, feature- and Internet-limited version.\n
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Yes, but have you looked at how LibreOffice looks? It looks like MS Office 1997-2003. Personally, I love that, but ask any MS Office user out there that’s not into tech and just wants to get the job done, you’ll always get the same answer, MS Office post 2007 with the ribbon interface is a lot better. People are used to that. If they’d have to chose between spending a little money and learning something new, guess what, they choose spending a little money. I know, it baffles me as well, but numbers don’t lie.\n
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And they usually see the whole MS account tied with office stuff thing as a feature, not as a drawback. Sure, they don’t get to use all the tools that the sute can offer, but who needs calcs in spreadsheets or math equations in a text editor anyway, that’s for geeks 😒.\n
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Basically, if they can write a few words and insert an image here and there, that’s more than enough for most people’s needs. Sure, they pay for that, which they can get for free, but you don’t see LibreOffice ads in Windows, do you 🤷.\n
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> Side note. You don’t always need the support, and the packages themselves can and do become available on other platforms. AUR and Nix repositories are the largest ones that have community-created packages that only available on Ubuntu or Fedora, etc.\n
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Thay is what I actually meant, we kinda troubleshoot our own packages, even if they’re repackaged from a closed source deb/rpm. If the dependencies are there and compiled against whatever is needed for the package to run, I don’t really see a reason not to offer support for other distros, or at least make a subforum or whatever for those that want to repackage stuff for other distros, so they can at least gather in one place and discuss issues regarding repackaging, with some guidelines> from the support staff of the product. But unfortunatelly, that’s rarely the case, that was my point.
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[launchpad.net/grub-customizer/](https://launchpad.net/grub-customizer/)\n
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I think that GH repo is just for reference… or maybe they (whoever made it) stopped syncing it to the main repo, IDK. 5.2.4 is the latest version and it’s released late 2023, so yeah, it’s still under active development.
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They want even those power users that are used to tweaking the OS to not tweak the OS and just get used to the new defaults (whatever they might be). A perfect example being no thin taskbar in Win11. Why? IDK, you tell me 🤷. Not everyone has a FullHD monitor (I don’t), but hey, maybe you need to buy a new one 😒. Consumerism maybe behind this, but I can’t be certain.\n
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In any case, most users will eventually get accustomed to the new defaults. Very few users will say “f this” and switch to another OS and they don’t actually care about those users, cuz they would have switched eventually anyway (if it wasn’t for this, some other thing most probably).
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Really? I think it shows the files as locked, but you can actually do whatever in root 🤔.\n
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In either case, it’s just more painless to actually let it boot all the way than to interrupt the boot process.
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> Everything just boils down that Windows was pre installed on such a huge amount of machines that “you have to be tech savvy” or whatever to use Linux.\n
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Yes, I would agree that having Windows preinstalled on almost every brand name PC/laptop there is out there is the main reason why things are what they are.\n
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But, I’d also argue that, from your everyday user’s stand point, Windows is a lot easier to get office work done. Everything is pretty much GUI based, there is no terminal in Windows (cmd and PowerShell are not the terminal, you can’t do everything you can in a GUI in the cmd or in PowerShell, and vice versa, so it’s not the same), so from a regular user’s perspective, things are simpler.\n
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> And the fact that no one wants to install anything that wasn’t installed the first time, makes it that much harder to switch to Linux.\n
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Why bother changing something that works and gets the job done 🤷… plus, they gotta learn new things if they did that, why make their lives harder.\n
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Not everyone cares about libre software… or even know it exists.\n
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> But I believe that we all are slowly spreading the word of Linux more and more with each year. We definitely will have a year of Linux for sure (eventually).\n
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If this does happen, this won’t be within a year, it will be within several years (or a decade).\n
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But, I do agree that there are changes in a positive direction. Most software products (slosed source ones) now have at least a Debian/Ubuntu .deb package (which wasn’t the case 10 years ago, which wasn’t that long ago) and even do customer support for Linux (but only limited to that particular flavor of Linux which they provide the packages for… not an ideal scenario, but it’s not bad either).\n
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So, yeah, I’m optimistic, but not too much. It might eventually happen, but not in the near future IMO.
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Yeah, and it’s a big market… all 6% of it.\n
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My point was, systemd is not the only init system, there are others. Just because it’s used by over 90% of the Linux distros out there, doesn’t mean it’s the only one, thus offering a solution that is tied to systemd is not exactly a solution. Grub already has it figured out, why complicate things further.
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> No, most popular Linux distros have every GUI app you need to do your office work. What do you need? Office suite, file manager and browser? Check, check, check. Moreover, you don’t have any office preinstalled on Windows and you even have to buy it (and the OS itself), or create a Microsoft account and use online, feature- and Internet-limited version.\n
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Yes, but have you looked at how LibreOffice looks? It looks like MS Office 1997-2003. Personally, I love that, but ask any MS Office user out there that’s not into tech and just wants to get the job done, you’ll always get the same answer, MS Office post 2007 with the ribbon interface is a lot better. People are used to that. If they’d have to chose between spending a little money and learning something new, guess what, they choose spending a little money. I know, it baffles me as well, but numbers don’t lie.\n
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And they usually see the whole MS account tied with office stuff thing as a feature, not as a drawback. Sure, they don’t get to use all the tools that the sute can offer, but who needs calcs in spreadsheets or math equations in a text editor anyway, that’s for geeks 😒.\n
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Basically, if they can write a few words and insert an image here and there, that’s more than enough for most people’s needs. Sure, they pay for that, which they can get for free, but you don’t see LibreOffice ads in Windows, do you 🤷.\n
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> Side note. You don’t always need the support, and the packages themselves can and do become available on other platforms. AUR and Nix repositories are the largest ones that have community-created packages that only available on Ubuntu or Fedora, etc.\n
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Thay is what I actually meant, we kinda troubleshoot our own packages, even if they’re repackaged from a closed source deb/rpm. If the dependencies are there and compiled against whatever is needed for the package to run, I don’t really see a reason not to offer support for other distros, or at least make a subforum or whatever for those that want to repackage stuff for other distros, so they can at least gather in one place and discuss issues regarding repackaging, with some guidelines> from the support staff of the product. But unfortunatelly, that’s rarely the case, that was my point.
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[launchpad.net/grub-customizer/](https://launchpad.net/grub-customizer/)\n
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I think that GH repo is just for reference… or maybe they (whoever made it) stopped syncing it to the main repo, IDK. 5.2.4 is the latest version and it’s released late 2023, so yeah, it’s still under active development.
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They want even those power users that are used to tweaking the OS to not tweak the OS and just get used to the new defaults (whatever they might be). A perfect example being no thin taskbar in Win11. Why? IDK, you tell me 🤷. Not everyone has a FullHD monitor (I don’t), but hey, maybe you need to buy a new one 😒. Consumerism maybe behind this, but I can’t be certain.\n
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In any case, most users will eventually get accustomed to the new defaults. Very few users will say “f this” and switch to another OS and they don’t actually care about those users, cuz they would have switched eventually anyway (if it wasn’t for this, some other thing most probably).
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Really? I think it shows the files as locked, but you can actually do whatever in root 🤔.\n
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In either case, it’s just more painless to actually let it boot all the way than to interrupt the boot process.
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> Everything just boils down that Windows was pre installed on such a huge amount of machines that “you have to be tech savvy” or whatever to use Linux.\n
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Yes, I would agree that having Windows preinstalled on almost every brand name PC/laptop there is out there is the main reason why things are what they are.\n
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But, I’d also argue that, from your everyday user’s stand point, Windows is a lot easier to get office work done. Everything is pretty much GUI based, there is no terminal in Windows (cmd and PowerShell are not the terminal, you can’t do everything you can in a GUI in the cmd or in PowerShell, and vice versa, so it’s not the same), so from a regular user’s perspective, things are simpler.\n
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> And the fact that no one wants to install anything that wasn’t installed the first time, makes it that much harder to switch to Linux.\n
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Why bother changing something that works and gets the job done 🤷… plus, they gotta learn new things if they did that, why make their lives harder.\n
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Not everyone cares about libre software… or even know it exists.\n
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> But I believe that we all are slowly spreading the word of Linux more and more with each year. We definitely will have a year of Linux for sure (eventually).\n
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If this does happen, this won’t be within a year, it will be within several years (or a decade).\n
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But, I do agree that there are changes in a positive direction. Most software products (slosed source ones) now have at least a Debian/Ubuntu .deb package (which wasn’t the case 10 years ago, which wasn’t that long ago) and even do customer support for Linux (but only limited to that particular flavor of Linux which they provide the packages for… not an ideal scenario, but it’s not bad either).\n
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So, yeah, I’m optimistic, but not too much. It might eventually happen, but not in the near future IMO.
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Yeah, and it’s a big market… all 6% of it.\n
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My point was, systemd is not the only init system, there are others. Just because it’s used by over 90% of the Linux distros out there, doesn’t mean it’s the only one, thus offering a solution that is tied to systemd is not exactly a solution. Grub already has it figured out, why complicate things further.
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> No, most popular Linux distros have every GUI app you need to do your office work. What do you need? Office suite, file manager and browser? Check, check, check. Moreover, you don’t have any office preinstalled on Windows and you even have to buy it (and the OS itself), or create a Microsoft account and use online, feature- and Internet-limited version.\n
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Yes, but have you looked at how LibreOffice looks? It looks like MS Office 1997-2003. Personally, I love that, but ask any MS Office user out there that’s not into tech and just wants to get the job done, you’ll always get the same answer, MS Office post 2007 with the ribbon interface is a lot better. People are used to that. If they’d have to chose between spending a little money and learning something new, guess what, they choose spending a little money. I know, it baffles me as well, but numbers don’t lie.\n
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And they usually see the whole MS account tied with office stuff thing as a feature, not as a drawback. Sure, they don’t get to use all the tools that the sute can offer, but who needs calcs in spreadsheets or math equations in a text editor anyway, that’s for geeks 😒.\n
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Basically, if they can write a few words and insert an image here and there, that’s more than enough for most people’s needs. Sure, they pay for that, which they can get for free, but you don’t see LibreOffice ads in Windows, do you 🤷.\n
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> Side note. You don’t always need the support, and the packages themselves can and do become available on other platforms. AUR and Nix repositories are the largest ones that have community-created packages that only available on Ubuntu or Fedora, etc.\n
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Thay is what I actually meant, we kinda troubleshoot our own packages, even if they’re repackaged from a closed source deb/rpm. If the dependencies are there and compiled against whatever is needed for the package to run, I don’t really see a reason not to offer support for other distros, or at least make a subforum or whatever for those that want to repackage stuff for other distros, so they can at least gather in one place and discuss issues regarding repackaging, with some guidelines> from the support staff of the product. But unfortunatelly, that’s rarely the case, that was my point.
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[launchpad.net/grub-customizer/](https://launchpad.net/grub-customizer/)\n
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I think that GH repo is just for reference… or maybe they (whoever made it) stopped syncing it to the main repo, IDK. 5.2.4 is the latest version and it’s released late 2023, so yeah, it’s still under active development.
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They want even those power users that are used to tweaking the OS to not tweak the OS and just get used to the new defaults (whatever they might be). A perfect example being no thin taskbar in Win11. Why? IDK, you tell me 🤷. Not everyone has a FullHD monitor (I don’t), but hey, maybe you need to buy a new one 😒. Consumerism maybe behind this, but I can’t be certain.\n
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In any case, most users will eventually get accustomed to the new defaults. Very few users will say “f this” and switch to another OS and they don’t actually care about those users, cuz they would have switched eventually anyway (if it wasn’t for this, some other thing most probably).
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Really? I think it shows the files as locked, but you can actually do whatever in root 🤔.\n
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In either case, it’s just more painless to actually let it boot all the way than to interrupt the boot process.
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> Everything just boils down that Windows was pre installed on such a huge amount of machines that “you have to be tech savvy” or whatever to use Linux.\n
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Yes, I would agree that having Windows preinstalled on almost every brand name PC/laptop there is out there is the main reason why things are what they are.\n
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But, I’d also argue that, from your everyday user’s stand point, Windows is a lot easier to get office work done. Everything is pretty much GUI based, there is no terminal in Windows (cmd and PowerShell are not the terminal, you can’t do everything you can in a GUI in the cmd or in PowerShell, and vice versa, so it’s not the same), so from a regular user’s perspective, things are simpler.\n
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> And the fact that no one wants to install anything that wasn’t installed the first time, makes it that much harder to switch to Linux.\n
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Why bother changing something that works and gets the job done 🤷… plus, they gotta learn new things if they did that, why make their lives harder.\n
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Not everyone cares about libre software… or even know it exists.\n
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> But I believe that we all are slowly spreading the word of Linux more and more with each year. We definitely will have a year of Linux for sure (eventually).\n
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If this does happen, this won’t be within a year, it will be within several years (or a decade).\n
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But, I do agree that there are changes in a positive direction. Most software products (slosed source ones) now have at least a Debian/Ubuntu .deb package (which wasn’t the case 10 years ago, which wasn’t that long ago) and even do customer support for Linux (but only limited to that particular flavor of Linux which they provide the packages for… not an ideal scenario, but it’s not bad either).\n
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So, yeah, I’m optimistic, but not too much. It might eventually happen, but not in the near future IMO.
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Yeah, and it’s a big market… all 6% of it.\n
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My point was, systemd is not the only init system, there are others. Just because it’s used by over 90% of the Linux distros out there, doesn’t mean it’s the only one, thus offering a solution that is tied to systemd is not exactly a solution. Grub already has it figured out, why complicate things further.
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> No, most popular Linux distros have every GUI app you need to do your office work. What do you need? Office suite, file manager and browser? Check, check, check. Moreover, you don’t have any office preinstalled on Windows and you even have to buy it (and the OS itself), or create a Microsoft account and use online, feature- and Internet-limited version.\n
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Yes, but have you looked at how LibreOffice looks? It looks like MS Office 1997-2003. Personally, I love that, but ask any MS Office user out there that’s not into tech and just wants to get the job done, you’ll always get the same answer, MS Office post 2007 with the ribbon interface is a lot better. People are used to that. If they’d have to chose between spending a little money and learning something new, guess what, they choose spending a little money. I know, it baffles me as well, but numbers don’t lie.\n
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And they usually see the whole MS account tied with office stuff thing as a feature, not as a drawback. Sure, they don’t get to use all the tools that the sute can offer, but who needs calcs in spreadsheets or math equations in a text editor anyway, that’s for geeks 😒.\n
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Basically, if they can write a few words and insert an image here and there, that’s more than enough for most people’s needs. Sure, they pay for that, which they can get for free, but you don’t see LibreOffice ads in Windows, do you 🤷.\n
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> Side note. You don’t always need the support, and the packages themselves can and do become available on other platforms. AUR and Nix repositories are the largest ones that have community-created packages that only available on Ubuntu or Fedora, etc.\n
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Thay is what I actually meant, we kinda troubleshoot our own packages, even if they’re repackaged from a closed source deb/rpm. If the dependencies are there and compiled against whatever is needed for the package to run, I don’t really see a reason not to offer support for other distros, or at least make a subforum or whatever for those that want to repackage stuff for other distros, so they can at least gather in one place and discuss issues regarding repackaging, with some guidelines> from the support staff of the product. But unfortunatelly, that’s rarely the case, that was my point.
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[launchpad.net/grub-customizer/](https://launchpad.net/grub-customizer/)\n
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I think that GH repo is just for reference… or maybe they (whoever made it) stopped syncing it to the main repo, IDK. 5.2.4 is the latest version and it’s released late 2023, so yeah, it’s still under active development.
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They want even those power users that are used to tweaking the OS to not tweak the OS and just get used to the new defaults (whatever they might be). A perfect example being no thin taskbar in Win11. Why? IDK, you tell me 🤷. Not everyone has a FullHD monitor (I don’t), but hey, maybe you need to buy a new one 😒. Consumerism maybe behind this, but I can’t be certain.\n
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In any case, most users will eventually get accustomed to the new defaults. Very few users will say “f this” and switch to another OS and they don’t actually care about those users, cuz they would have switched eventually anyway (if it wasn’t for this, some other thing most probably).
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Really? I think it shows the files as locked, but you can actually do whatever in root 🤔.\n
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In either case, it’s just more painless to actually let it boot all the way than to interrupt the boot process.
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> Everything just boils down that Windows was pre installed on such a huge amount of machines that “you have to be tech savvy” or whatever to use Linux.\n
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Yes, I would agree that having Windows preinstalled on almost every brand name PC/laptop there is out there is the main reason why things are what they are.\n
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But, I’d also argue that, from your everyday user’s stand point, Windows is a lot easier to get office work done. Everything is pretty much GUI based, there is no terminal in Windows (cmd and PowerShell are not the terminal, you can’t do everything you can in a GUI in the cmd or in PowerShell, and vice versa, so it’s not the same), so from a regular user’s perspective, things are simpler.\n
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> And the fact that no one wants to install anything that wasn’t installed the first time, makes it that much harder to switch to Linux.\n
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Why bother changing something that works and gets the job done 🤷… plus, they gotta learn new things if they did that, why make their lives harder.\n
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Not everyone cares about libre software… or even know it exists.\n
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> But I believe that we all are slowly spreading the word of Linux more and more with each year. We definitely will have a year of Linux for sure (eventually).\n
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If this does happen, this won’t be within a year, it will be within several years (or a decade).\n
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But, I do agree that there are changes in a positive direction. Most software products (slosed source ones) now have at least a Debian/Ubuntu .deb package (which wasn’t the case 10 years ago, which wasn’t that long ago) and even do customer support for Linux (but only limited to that particular flavor of Linux which they provide the packages for… not an ideal scenario, but it’s not bad either).\n
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So, yeah, I’m optimistic, but not too much. It might eventually happen, but not in the near future IMO.
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Yeah, and it’s a big market… all 6% of it.\n
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My point was, systemd is not the only init system, there are others. Just because it’s used by over 90% of the Linux distros out there, doesn’t mean it’s the only one, thus offering a solution that is tied to systemd is not exactly a solution. Grub already has it figured out, why complicate things further.
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> No, most popular Linux distros have every GUI app you need to do your office work. What do you need? Office suite, file manager and browser? Check, check, check. Moreover, you don’t have any office preinstalled on Windows and you even have to buy it (and the OS itself), or create a Microsoft account and use online, feature- and Internet-limited version.\n
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Yes, but have you looked at how LibreOffice looks? It looks like MS Office 1997-2003. Personally, I love that, but ask any MS Office user out there that’s not into tech and just wants to get the job done, you’ll always get the same answer, MS Office post 2007 with the ribbon interface is a lot better. People are used to that. If they’d have to chose between spending a little money and learning something new, guess what, they choose spending a little money. I know, it baffles me as well, but numbers don’t lie.\n
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And they usually see the whole MS account tied with office stuff thing as a feature, not as a drawback. Sure, they don’t get to use all the tools that the sute can offer, but who needs calcs in spreadsheets or math equations in a text editor anyway, that’s for geeks 😒.\n
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Basically, if they can write a few words and insert an image here and there, that’s more than enough for most people’s needs. Sure, they pay for that, which they can get for free, but you don’t see LibreOffice ads in Windows, do you 🤷.\n
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> Side note. You don’t always need the support, and the packages themselves can and do become available on other platforms. AUR and Nix repositories are the largest ones that have community-created packages that only available on Ubuntu or Fedora, etc.\n
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Thay is what I actually meant, we kinda troubleshoot our own packages, even if they’re repackaged from a closed source deb/rpm. If the dependencies are there and compiled against whatever is needed for the package to run, I don’t really see a reason not to offer support for other distros, or at least make a subforum or whatever for those that want to repackage stuff for other distros, so they can at least gather in one place and discuss issues regarding repackaging, with some guidelines> from the support staff of the product. But unfortunatelly, that’s rarely the case, that was my point.
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[launchpad.net/grub-customizer/](https://launchpad.net/grub-customizer/)\n
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I think that GH repo is just for reference… or maybe they (whoever made it) stopped syncing it to the main repo, IDK. 5.2.4 is the latest version and it’s released late 2023, so yeah, it’s still under active development.
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They want even those power users that are used to tweaking the OS to not tweak the OS and just get used to the new defaults (whatever they might be). A perfect example being no thin taskbar in Win11. Why? IDK, you tell me 🤷. Not everyone has a FullHD monitor (I don’t), but hey, maybe you need to buy a new one 😒. Consumerism maybe behind this, but I can’t be certain.\n
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In any case, most users will eventually get accustomed to the new defaults. Very few users will say “f this” and switch to another OS and they don’t actually care about those users, cuz they would have switched eventually anyway (if it wasn’t for this, some other thing most probably).
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Really? I think it shows the files as locked, but you can actually do whatever in root 🤔.\n
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In either case, it’s just more painless to actually let it boot all the way than to interrupt the boot process.
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> Everything just boils down that Windows was pre installed on such a huge amount of machines that “you have to be tech savvy” or whatever to use Linux.\n
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Yes, I would agree that having Windows preinstalled on almost every brand name PC/laptop there is out there is the main reason why things are what they are.\n
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But, I’d also argue that, from your everyday user’s stand point, Windows is a lot easier to get office work done. Everything is pretty much GUI based, there is no terminal in Windows (cmd and PowerShell are not the terminal, you can’t do everything you can in a GUI in the cmd or in PowerShell, and vice versa, so it’s not the same), so from a regular user’s perspective, things are simpler.\n
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> And the fact that no one wants to install anything that wasn’t installed the first time, makes it that much harder to switch to Linux.\n
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Why bother changing something that works and gets the job done 🤷… plus, they gotta learn new things if they did that, why make their lives harder.\n
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Not everyone cares about libre software… or even know it exists.\n
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> But I believe that we all are slowly spreading the word of Linux more and more with each year. We definitely will have a year of Linux for sure (eventually).\n
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If this does happen, this won’t be within a year, it will be within several years (or a decade).\n
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But, I do agree that there are changes in a positive direction. Most software products (slosed source ones) now have at least a Debian/Ubuntu .deb package (which wasn’t the case 10 years ago, which wasn’t that long ago) and even do customer support for Linux (but only limited to that particular flavor of Linux which they provide the packages for… not an ideal scenario, but it’s not bad either).\n
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So, yeah, I’m optimistic, but not too much. It might eventually happen, but not in the near future IMO.
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Yeah, and it’s a big market… all 6% of it.\n
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My point was, systemd is not the only init system, there are others. Just because it’s used by over 90% of the Linux distros out there, doesn’t mean it’s the only one, thus offering a solution that is tied to systemd is not exactly a solution. Grub already has it figured out, why complicate things further.
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> No, most popular Linux distros have every GUI app you need to do your office work. What do you need? Office suite, file manager and browser? Check, check, check. Moreover, you don’t have any office preinstalled on Windows and you even have to buy it (and the OS itself), or create a Microsoft account and use online, feature- and Internet-limited version.\n
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Yes, but have you looked at how LibreOffice looks? It looks like MS Office 1997-2003. Personally, I love that, but ask any MS Office user out there that’s not into tech and just wants to get the job done, you’ll always get the same answer, MS Office post 2007 with the ribbon interface is a lot better. People are used to that. If they’d have to chose between spending a little money and learning something new, guess what, they choose spending a little money. I know, it baffles me as well, but numbers don’t lie.\n
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And they usually see the whole MS account tied with office stuff thing as a feature, not as a drawback. Sure, they don’t get to use all the tools that the sute can offer, but who needs calcs in spreadsheets or math equations in a text editor anyway, that’s for geeks 😒.\n
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Basically, if they can write a few words and insert an image here and there, that’s more than enough for most people’s needs. Sure, they pay for that, which they can get for free, but you don’t see LibreOffice ads in Windows, do you 🤷.\n
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> Side note. You don’t always need the support, and the packages themselves can and do become available on other platforms. AUR and Nix repositories are the largest ones that have community-created packages that only available on Ubuntu or Fedora, etc.\n
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Thay is what I actually meant, we kinda troubleshoot our own packages, even if they’re repackaged from a closed source deb/rpm. If the dependencies are there and compiled against whatever is needed for the package to run, I don’t really see a reason not to offer support for other distros, or at least make a subforum or whatever for those that want to repackage stuff for other distros, so they can at least gather in one place and discuss issues regarding repackaging, with some guidelines> from the support staff of the product. But unfortunatelly, that’s rarely the case, that was my point.
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[launchpad.net/grub-customizer/](https://launchpad.net/grub-customizer/)\n
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I think that GH repo is just for reference… or maybe they (whoever made it) stopped syncing it to the main repo, IDK. 5.2.4 is the latest version and it’s released late 2023, so yeah, it’s still under active development.
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They want even those power users that are used to tweaking the OS to not tweak the OS and just get used to the new defaults (whatever they might be). A perfect example being no thin taskbar in Win11. Why? IDK, you tell me 🤷. Not everyone has a FullHD monitor (I don’t), but hey, maybe you need to buy a new one 😒. Consumerism maybe behind this, but I can’t be certain.\n
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In any case, most users will eventually get accustomed to the new defaults. Very few users will say “f this” and switch to another OS and they don’t actually care about those users, cuz they would have switched eventually anyway (if it wasn’t for this, some other thing most probably).
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Really? I think it shows the files as locked, but you can actually do whatever in root 🤔.\n
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In either case, it’s just more painless to actually let it boot all the way than to interrupt the boot process.
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> Everything just boils down that Windows was pre installed on such a huge amount of machines that “you have to be tech savvy” or whatever to use Linux.\n
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Yes, I would agree that having Windows preinstalled on almost every brand name PC/laptop there is out there is the main reason why things are what they are.\n
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But, I’d also argue that, from your everyday user’s stand point, Windows is a lot easier to get office work done. Everything is pretty much GUI based, there is no terminal in Windows (cmd and PowerShell are not the terminal, you can’t do everything you can in a GUI in the cmd or in PowerShell, and vice versa, so it’s not the same), so from a regular user’s perspective, things are simpler.\n
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> And the fact that no one wants to install anything that wasn’t installed the first time, makes it that much harder to switch to Linux.\n
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Why bother changing something that works and gets the job done 🤷… plus, they gotta learn new things if they did that, why make their lives harder.\n
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Not everyone cares about libre software… or even know it exists.\n
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> But I believe that we all are slowly spreading the word of Linux more and more with each year. We definitely will have a year of Linux for sure (eventually).\n
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If this does happen, this won’t be within a year, it will be within several years (or a decade).\n
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But, I do agree that there are changes in a positive direction. Most software products (slosed source ones) now have at least a Debian/Ubuntu .deb package (which wasn’t the case 10 years ago, which wasn’t that long ago) and even do customer support for Linux (but only limited to that particular flavor of Linux which they provide the packages for… not an ideal scenario, but it’s not bad either).\n
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So, yeah, I’m optimistic, but not too much. It might eventually happen, but not in the near future IMO.
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