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Security

Token

There is no security token.

Firewall

main Name

Security enabled

Stateless

Configuration

Key	Value
provider	security.user.provider.concrete.app_user_provider
context	main
entry_point	App\Security\KbinAuthenticator
user_checker	App\Security\UserChecker
access_denied_handler	(none)
access_denied_url	(none)
authenticators	[`"two_factor" "remember_me" "App\Security\KbinAuthenticator" "App\Security\FacebookAuthenticator" "App\Security\GoogleAuthenticator" "App\Security\GithubAuthenticator" "App\Security\KeycloakAuthenticator"`]

Listeners

Listener	Duration	Response
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Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\ContextListener {#706-tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\TokenStorage {#1017 …} -sessionKey: "_security_main" -logger: Monolog\Logger {#783 …} -userProviders: Symfony\Component\DependencyInjection\Argument\RewindableGenerator {#705 …} -dispatcher: Symfony\Component\EventDispatcher\Debug\TraceableEventDispatcher {#747 …} -registered: false -trustResolver: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authentication\AuthenticationTrustResolver {#780 …} -sessionTrackerEnabler: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage::enableUsageTracking(): void {#703 …}}	0.77 ms	(none)
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\AuthenticatorManagerListener {#584`-authenticatorManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Authentication\AuthenticatorManager {#595 …}`}	0.00 ms	(none)
Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Http\Firewall\TwoFactorAccessListener {#582`-twoFactorFirewallConfig: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\TwoFactor\TwoFactorFirewallConfig {#842 …} -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …} -twoFactorAccessDecider: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\TwoFactorAccessDecider {#581 …}`}	0.04 ms	(none)
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Authenticators

No authenticators have been recorded. Check previous profiles on your authentication endpoint.

Access Decision

affirmative Strategy


"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\AuthenticatedVoter"
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\ExpressionVoter"
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"

#	Voter class
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3	"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
4	"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\ExpressionVoter"
5	"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
6	"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
7	"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
8	"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
9	"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
10	"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
11	"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
12	"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
13	"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
14	"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"

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      I know a lot of languages have some aspects that probably seem a bit strange to non-native speakers…in the case of gendered words is there a point other than “just the way its always been” that explains it a bit better?\n
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    [Shameless comm advertisement: make sure to check !linguistics@lemmy.ml, this sort of question fits nicely there!]\n
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    There are two main points: agreement and derivation.\n
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    **Agreement**: grammatical gender gives you an easy way to keep track of which word refers to which. Consider for example the following sentence:\n
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    What does “it” refer to? It’s ambiguous, it could be either “the clock” or “the glass table” (both things are breakable). In Portuguese however the sentence is completely unambiguous *due to the gender system*, as the translations show:\n
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    - puer bellus puellam amat. (boy.M.NOM pretty.M.NOM girl.F.ACC loves) = the handsome boy loves the girl\n
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    The second aspect that I mentioned is **derivation**: gender gives you a quick way to create more words, without needing new roots for that. Italian examples:\n
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    - "gatto" *cat, tomcat* vs. “gatta” *female cat*\n
    - "banana" *banana (fruit)* vs. “banano” *banana plant*\n
    - "mela" *apple (fruit)* vs. “melo” *apple tree*\n
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    Addressing some comments here: English does not have a grammatical gender system. It has a few words that refer to social gender and sex, but both concepts (grammatical gender and social gender) are completely distinct.\n
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    - [Gloss, showing word gender] The.M Ivan.M is a.F person.F very **tall.F**\n
    - [Translation] Ivan is a very tall person.\n
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    Check the adjective, “alta” *tall*. Even if “Ivan” refers to a man, you need to use the *feminine* adjective here, because it needs to agree with “pessoa” *person* - a feminine word. This kind of stuff happens all the time in gendered languages, but you don’t see it e.g. in English.
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      I don’t have gendered words in my native language, and from the outside looking in I’m not sure what gendered words actually provide in terms of context? Is there more to it that I’m not quite following?
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    [Shameless comm advertisement: make sure to check !linguistics@lemmy.ml, this sort of question fits nicely there!]\n
    \n
    There are two main points: agreement and derivation.\n
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    **Agreement**: grammatical gender gives you an easy way to keep track of which word refers to which. Consider for example the following sentence:\n
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    - The clock fell over the glass table, and it broke.\n
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    What does “it” refer to? It’s ambiguous, it could be either “the clock” or “the glass table” (both things are breakable). In Portuguese however the sentence is completely unambiguous *due to the gender system*, as the translations show:\n
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    1. O relógio caiu sobre a mesa de vidro, e **ele** quebrou. // “ele” *he/it* = the clock\n
    2. O relógio caiu sobre a mesa de vidro, e **ela** quebrou. // “ela” *she/it* = the table\n
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    It’s only one word of difference; however “ele” *he/it* *must* refer to “relógio” *clock* due to the gender agreement. Same deal with “ela” *she/it* and “mesa” *table*.\n
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    Latin also shows something similar, due to the syntactically free word order. Like this:\n
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    - puer bellus puellam amat. (boy.M.NOM pretty.M.NOM girl.F.ACC loves) = the handsome boy loves the girl\n
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    Note how the adjective between “puer” *boy* and “puella” *girl* could theoretically refer to any of those nouns; Latin is not picky with adjective placement, as long as it’s near the noun it’s fine. However, because “puer” is a masculine word and “puella” is feminine, we *know* that the adjective refers to one if masculine, another if feminine. (Note: the case marks reinforce this, but they aren’t fully reliable.)\n
    \n
    The second aspect that I mentioned is **derivation**: gender gives you a quick way to create more words, without needing new roots for that. Italian examples:\n
    \n
    - “bambino” *boy* vs. “bambina” *girl*\n
    - "gatto" *cat, tomcat* vs. “gatta” *female cat*\n
    - "banana" *banana (fruit)* vs. “banano” *banana plant*\n
    - "mela" *apple (fruit)* vs. “melo” *apple tree*\n
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    Focus on the last two lines - note how the gender system is reused to things that (from human PoV) have no sex or social gender, like trees and their fruits. This kind of extension of the derivation system is fairly common across gendered languages.\n
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    ---\n
    \n
    Addressing some comments here: English does not have a grammatical gender system. It has a few words that refer to social gender and sex, but both concepts (grammatical gender and social gender) are completely distinct.\n
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    That’s specially evident when triggering agreement in a gendered language, as English doesn’t do anything similar. Portuguese examples, again:\n
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    - [Gloss, showing word gender] The.M Ivan.M is a.F person.F very **tall.F**\n
    - [Translation] Ivan is a very tall person.\n
    \n
    Check the adjective, “alta” *tall*. Even if “Ivan” refers to a man, you need to use the *feminine* adjective here, because it needs to agree with “pessoa” *person* - a feminine word. This kind of stuff happens all the time in gendered languages, but you don’t see it e.g. in English.
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      I know a lot of languages have some aspects that probably seem a bit strange to non-native speakers…in the case of gendered words is there a point other than “just the way its always been” that explains it a bit better?\n
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      I don’t have gendered words in my native language, and from the outside looking in I’m not sure what gendered words actually provide in terms of context? Is there more to it that I’m not quite following?
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    [Shameless comm advertisement: make sure to check !linguistics@lemmy.ml, this sort of question fits nicely there!]\n
    \n
    There are two main points: agreement and derivation.\n
    \n
    **Agreement**: grammatical gender gives you an easy way to keep track of which word refers to which. Consider for example the following sentence:\n
    \n
    - The clock fell over the glass table, and it broke.\n
    \n
    What does “it” refer to? It’s ambiguous, it could be either “the clock” or “the glass table” (both things are breakable). In Portuguese however the sentence is completely unambiguous *due to the gender system*, as the translations show:\n
    \n
    1. O relógio caiu sobre a mesa de vidro, e **ele** quebrou. // “ele” *he/it* = the clock\n
    2. O relógio caiu sobre a mesa de vidro, e **ela** quebrou. // “ela” *she/it* = the table\n
    \n
    It’s only one word of difference; however “ele” *he/it* *must* refer to “relógio” *clock* due to the gender agreement. Same deal with “ela” *she/it* and “mesa” *table*.\n
    \n
    Latin also shows something similar, due to the syntactically free word order. Like this:\n
    \n
    - puer bellam puellam amat. (boy.M.NOM pretty.F.ACC girl.F.ACC loves) = the boy loves the beautiful girl\n
    - puer bellus puellam amat. (boy.M.NOM pretty.M.NOM girl.F.ACC loves) = the handsome boy loves the girl\n
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    Note how the adjective between “puer” *boy* and “puella” *girl* could theoretically refer to any of those nouns; Latin is not picky with adjective placement, as long as it’s near the noun it’s fine. However, because “puer” is a masculine word and “puella” is feminine, we *know* that the adjective refers to one if masculine, another if feminine. (Note: the case marks reinforce this, but they aren’t fully reliable.)\n
    \n
    The second aspect that I mentioned is **derivation**: gender gives you a quick way to create more words, without needing new roots for that. Italian examples:\n
    \n
    - “bambino” *boy* vs. “bambina” *girl*\n
    - "gatto" *cat, tomcat* vs. “gatta” *female cat*\n
    - "banana" *banana (fruit)* vs. “banano” *banana plant*\n
    - "mela" *apple (fruit)* vs. “melo” *apple tree*\n
    \n
    Focus on the last two lines - note how the gender system is reused to things that (from human PoV) have no sex or social gender, like trees and their fruits. This kind of extension of the derivation system is fairly common across gendered languages.\n
    \n
    ---\n
    \n
    Addressing some comments here: English does not have a grammatical gender system. It has a few words that refer to social gender and sex, but both concepts (grammatical gender and social gender) are completely distinct.\n
    \n
    That’s specially evident when triggering agreement in a gendered language, as English doesn’t do anything similar. Portuguese examples, again:\n
    \n
    - [Sentence] O Ivan é uma pessoa muito **alta.**\n
    - [Gloss, showing word gender] The.M Ivan.M is a.F person.F very **tall.F**\n
    - [Translation] Ivan is a very tall person.\n
    \n
    Check the adjective, “alta” *tall*. Even if “Ivan” refers to a man, you need to use the *feminine* adjective here, because it needs to agree with “pessoa” *person* - a feminine word. This kind of stuff happens all the time in gendered languages, but you don’t see it e.g. in English.
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      [Shameless comm advertisement: make sure to check !linguistics@lemmy.ml, this sort of question fits nicely there!]\n
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      There are two main points: agreement and derivation.\n
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      **Agreement**: grammatical gender gives you an easy way to keep track of which word refers to which. Consider for example the following sentence:\n
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      What does “it” refer to? It’s ambiguous, it could be either “the clock” or “the glass table” (both things are breakable). In Portuguese however the sentence is completely unambiguous *due to the gender system*, as the translations show:\n
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      2. O relógio caiu sobre a mesa de vidro, e **ela** quebrou. // “ela” *she/it* = the table\n
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      Latin also shows something similar, due to the syntactically free word order. Like this:\n
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      - puer bellus puellam amat. (boy.M.NOM pretty.M.NOM girl.F.ACC loves) = the handsome boy loves the girl\n
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      Note how the adjective between “puer” *boy* and “puella” *girl* could theoretically refer to any of those nouns; Latin is not picky with adjective placement, as long as it’s near the noun it’s fine. However, because “puer” is a masculine word and “puella” is feminine, we *know* that the adjective refers to one if masculine, another if feminine. (Note: the case marks reinforce this, but they aren’t fully reliable.)\n
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      The second aspect that I mentioned is **derivation**: gender gives you a quick way to create more words, without needing new roots for that. Italian examples:\n
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      - "banana" *banana (fruit)* vs. “banano” *banana plant*\n
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      Addressing some comments here: English does not have a grammatical gender system. It has a few words that refer to social gender and sex, but both concepts (grammatical gender and social gender) are completely distinct.\n
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      - [Gloss, showing word gender] The.M Ivan.M is a.F person.F very **tall.F**\n
      - [Translation] Ivan is a very tall person.\n
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      Check the adjective, “alta” *tall*. Even if “Ivan” refers to a man, you need to use the *feminine* adjective here, because it needs to agree with “pessoa” *person* - a feminine word. This kind of stuff happens all the time in gendered languages, but you don’t see it e.g. in English.
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      There are two main points: agreement and derivation.\n
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      **Agreement**: grammatical gender gives you an easy way to keep track of which word refers to which. Consider for example the following sentence:\n
      \n
      - The clock fell over the glass table, and it broke.\n
      \n
      What does “it” refer to? It’s ambiguous, it could be either “the clock” or “the glass table” (both things are breakable). In Portuguese however the sentence is completely unambiguous *due to the gender system*, as the translations show:\n
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      2. O relógio caiu sobre a mesa de vidro, e **ela** quebrou. // “ela” *she/it* = the table\n
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      Latin also shows something similar, due to the syntactically free word order. Like this:\n
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      - puer bellus puellam amat. (boy.M.NOM pretty.M.NOM girl.F.ACC loves) = the handsome boy loves the girl\n
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      Note how the adjective between “puer” *boy* and “puella” *girl* could theoretically refer to any of those nouns; Latin is not picky with adjective placement, as long as it’s near the noun it’s fine. However, because “puer” is a masculine word and “puella” is feminine, we *know* that the adjective refers to one if masculine, another if feminine. (Note: the case marks reinforce this, but they aren’t fully reliable.)\n
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      The second aspect that I mentioned is **derivation**: gender gives you a quick way to create more words, without needing new roots for that. Italian examples:\n
      \n
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      - "gatto" *cat, tomcat* vs. “gatta” *female cat*\n
      - "banana" *banana (fruit)* vs. “banano” *banana plant*\n
      - "mela" *apple (fruit)* vs. “melo” *apple tree*\n
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      Focus on the last two lines - note how the gender system is reused to things that (from human PoV) have no sex or social gender, like trees and their fruits. This kind of extension of the derivation system is fairly common across gendered languages.\n
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      Addressing some comments here: English does not have a grammatical gender system. It has a few words that refer to social gender and sex, but both concepts (grammatical gender and social gender) are completely distinct.\n
      \n
      That’s specially evident when triggering agreement in a gendered language, as English doesn’t do anything similar. Portuguese examples, again:\n
      \n
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      - [Gloss, showing word gender] The.M Ivan.M is a.F person.F very **tall.F**\n
      - [Translation] Ivan is a very tall person.\n
      \n
      Check the adjective, “alta” *tall*. Even if “Ivan” refers to a man, you need to use the *feminine* adjective here, because it needs to agree with “pessoa” *person* - a feminine word. This kind of stuff happens all the time in gendered languages, but you don’t see it e.g. in English.
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      [Shameless comm advertisement: make sure to check !linguistics@lemmy.ml, this sort of question fits nicely there!]\n
      \n
      There are two main points: agreement and derivation.\n
      \n
      **Agreement**: grammatical gender gives you an easy way to keep track of which word refers to which. Consider for example the following sentence:\n
      \n
      - The clock fell over the glass table, and it broke.\n
      \n
      What does “it” refer to? It’s ambiguous, it could be either “the clock” or “the glass table” (both things are breakable). In Portuguese however the sentence is completely unambiguous *due to the gender system*, as the translations show:\n
      \n
      1. O relógio caiu sobre a mesa de vidro, e **ele** quebrou. // “ele” *he/it* = the clock\n
      2. O relógio caiu sobre a mesa de vidro, e **ela** quebrou. // “ela” *she/it* = the table\n
      \n
      It’s only one word of difference; however “ele” *he/it* *must* refer to “relógio” *clock* due to the gender agreement. Same deal with “ela” *she/it* and “mesa” *table*.\n
      \n
      Latin also shows something similar, due to the syntactically free word order. Like this:\n
      \n
      - puer bellam puellam amat. (boy.M.NOM pretty.F.ACC girl.F.ACC loves) = the boy loves the beautiful girl\n
      - puer bellus puellam amat. (boy.M.NOM pretty.M.NOM girl.F.ACC loves) = the handsome boy loves the girl\n
      \n
      Note how the adjective between “puer” *boy* and “puella” *girl* could theoretically refer to any of those nouns; Latin is not picky with adjective placement, as long as it’s near the noun it’s fine. However, because “puer” is a masculine word and “puella” is feminine, we *know* that the adjective refers to one if masculine, another if feminine. (Note: the case marks reinforce this, but they aren’t fully reliable.)\n
      \n
      The second aspect that I mentioned is **derivation**: gender gives you a quick way to create more words, without needing new roots for that. Italian examples:\n
      \n
      - “bambino” *boy* vs. “bambina” *girl*\n
      - "gatto" *cat, tomcat* vs. “gatta” *female cat*\n
      - "banana" *banana (fruit)* vs. “banano” *banana plant*\n
      - "mela" *apple (fruit)* vs. “melo” *apple tree*\n
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      Focus on the last two lines - note how the gender system is reused to things that (from human PoV) have no sex or social gender, like trees and their fruits. This kind of extension of the derivation system is fairly common across gendered languages.\n
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      Addressing some comments here: English does not have a grammatical gender system. It has a few words that refer to social gender and sex, but both concepts (grammatical gender and social gender) are completely distinct.\n
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      That’s specially evident when triggering agreement in a gendered language, as English doesn’t do anything similar. Portuguese examples, again:\n
      \n
      - [Sentence] O Ivan é uma pessoa muito **alta.**\n
      - [Gloss, showing word gender] The.M Ivan.M is a.F person.F very **tall.F**\n
      - [Translation] Ivan is a very tall person.\n
      \n
      Check the adjective, “alta” *tall*. Even if “Ivan” refers to a man, you need to use the *feminine* adjective here, because it needs to agree with “pessoa” *person* - a feminine word. This kind of stuff happens all the time in gendered languages, but you don’t see it e.g. in English.
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