GET https://kbin.spritesserver.nl/u/@barsoap@lemm.ee/commented

Response
200 OK
IP
18.189.184.99
Profiled on
Token
8256e6

Security

Token

There is no security token.

Firewall

main Name
Security enabled
Stateless

Configuration

Key Value
provider security.user.provider.concrete.app_user_provider
context main
entry_point App\Security\KbinAuthenticator
user_checker App\Security\UserChecker
access_denied_handler (none)
access_denied_url (none)
authenticators 
[
  "two_factor"
  "remember_me"
  "App\Security\KbinAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\FacebookAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\GoogleAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\GithubAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\KeycloakAuthenticator"
]

Listeners

Listener Duration Response 
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\ChannelListener {#723
  -map: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\AccessMap {#722 …}
  -logger: Monolog\Logger {#783 …}
  -httpPort: 80
  -httpsPort: 443
}
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Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\ContextListener {#706
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\TokenStorage {#1017 …}
  -sessionKey: "_security_main"
  -logger: Monolog\Logger {#783 …}
  -userProviders: Symfony\Component\DependencyInjection\Argument\RewindableGenerator {#705 …}
  -dispatcher: Symfony\Component\EventDispatcher\Debug\TraceableEventDispatcher {#747 …}
  -registered: false
  -trustResolver: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authentication\AuthenticationTrustResolver {#780 …}
  -sessionTrackerEnabler: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage::enableUsageTracking(): void {#703 …}
}
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Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\AuthenticatorManagerListener {#584
  -authenticatorManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Authentication\AuthenticatorManager {#595 …}
}
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Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Http\Firewall\TwoFactorAccessListener {#582
  -twoFactorFirewallConfig: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\TwoFactor\TwoFactorFirewallConfig {#842 …}
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -twoFactorAccessDecider: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\TwoFactorAccessDecider {#581 …}
}
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Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\AccessListener {#579
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -accessDecisionManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\TraceableAccessDecisionManager {#937 …}
  -map: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\AccessMap {#722 …}
}
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Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\LogoutListener {#786
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -options: [
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    "csrf_token_id" => "logout"
    "logout_path" => "app_logout"
  ]
  -httpUtils: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\HttpUtils {#841 …}
  -csrfTokenManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Csrf\CsrfTokenManager {#1015 …}
  -eventDispatcher: Symfony\Component\EventDispatcher\Debug\TraceableEventDispatcher {#747 …}
}
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Authenticators

No authenticators have been recorded. Check previous profiles on your authentication endpoint.

Access Decision

affirmative Strategy
# Voter class
1 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\AuthenticatedVoter"
2 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
3 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
4 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\ExpressionVoter"
5 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
6 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
7 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
8 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
9 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
10 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
11 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
12 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
13 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
14 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"

Access decision log

# Result Attributes Object
1 DENIED ROLE_USER 
null
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
2 DENIED moderate 
Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1592
  +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#2635 …}
  +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1579 …}
  +image: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#2655 …}
  +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#2677 …}
  +slug: "Get-to-work-crackheads"
  +title: "Get to work, crackheads"
  +url: "https://lemmy.today/pictrs/image/a34d3253-2dfc-440c-aa63-2d492c4d1b66.jpeg"
  +body: """
    EDIT: since apparently a bunch of people woke up with the wrong foot this morning or forgot to check the group they’re in:\n
    \n
    This is a joke. Do not steal or vandalize speed enforcement cameras (or anything else for that matter). That’s against the law and you will likely get arrested.\n
    \n
    If you’re addicted to crack or any other drugs, please seek professional help.
    """
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  +lang: "en"
  +isOc: false
  +hasEmbed: true
  +commentCount: 257
  +favouriteCount: 1073
  +score: 0
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  +sticky: false
  +lastActive: DateTime @1706068669 {#2236
    date: 2024-01-24 04:57:49.0 +01:00
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  +adaAmount: 0
  +tags: null
  +mentions: null
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  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2674 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2671 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2705 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2701 …}
  +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2718 …}
  +children: [
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      +user: App\Entity\User {#265 …}
      +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1592 …2}
      +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1579 …}
      +image: null
      +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#2075 …}
      +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1666 …}
      +body: """
        Why can’t you have one-way streets in a rural area? Fork off the main street on one end, merge on the other. Pedestrian and bicycle traffic can be bidirectional, cars can take a little detour they don’t use muscle energy.\n
        \n
        > > Wide enough for one pickup and no opposing traffic, but so narrow that two pickups are going to really have to negotiate to move around each other."\n
        \n
        How does that translate to "block the street for buses? If a street fits two pickups it fits two buses. They’ll have to negotiate to move around each other so if you have many (which, as I told you a lot, you shouldn’t) you should consider a one-way road, or maybe a meeting bay, or a wider street with choke points, or whatever. But it’s not “blocking the road for buses”.
        """
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      +favouriteCount: 0
      +score: 0
      +lastActive: DateTime @1705674451 {#2036
        date: 2024-01-19 15:27:31.0 +01:00
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        "@byroon@lemmy.world"
        "@Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world"
        "@barsoap@lemm.ee"
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      +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2076 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2083 …}
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      +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2062 …}
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      +ranking: 0
      +commentCount: 0
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      +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/8431263"
      +editedAt: null
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1705674451 {#2037
        date: 2024-01-19 15:27:31.0 +01:00
      }
      +"title": 322780
    }
    10 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1697
      +user: App\Entity\User {#265 …}
      +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1592 …2}
      +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1579 …}
      +image: null
      +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1667 …}
      +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1666 …}
      +body: """
        > Schools have more than one bus and they have to pass each other.\n
        \n
        No they don’t they can enter from the same side. You’re just looking for excuses. Also why do you need buses in the first place why aren’t the kids walking or biking.
        """
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        "@Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world"
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      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1674 …}
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      +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1588 …}
      -id: 320302
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      +ranking: 0
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      +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/8410335"
      +editedAt: null
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1705610331 {#1435
        date: 2024-01-18 21:38:51.0 +01:00
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      +"title": 320302
    }
    7 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#2065
      +user: App\Entity\User {#265 …}
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      +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1579 …}
      +image: null
      +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#2074 …}
      +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1666 …}
      +body: """
        > That’s a main road.\n
        \n
        [No it isn’t](https://dictionary.cambridge.org/de/worterbuch/essential-amerikanisches-englisch/main-road):\n
        \n
        > a large road that goes from one town to another:\n
        \n
        And yes you also see residential buildings on main roads. The reason this is a residential and not main road is due to its size and position away from through-traffic. It’s a road where you have a quick look and then just cross, main roads are of the “eh I can look but I probably need to get to a crossing to get across” territory.\n
        \n
        And no there’s no speed bumps why would there if the road is narrow enough and people naturally drive slow enough, there’s no through traffic, the residents don’t race on it, etc.
        """
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      +lastActive: DateTime @1705733949 {#2072
        date: 2024-01-20 07:59:09.0 +01:00
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        "@byroon@lemmy.world"
        "@Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world"
        "@barsoap@lemm.ee"
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      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2051 …}
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      -id: 325057
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      +user: App\Entity\User {#265 …}
      +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1592 …2}
      +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1579 …}
      +image: null
      +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#2018 …}
      +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1666 …}
      +body: """
        US suburbia has a higher density than the German countryside, having to travel 24km is nuts. That’d be defensible if you live in a tiny settlement 24km from a place with more than two dozen houses – I’m sure those exist in the US but suburbia isn’t that.\n
        \n
        How many pupils were there at your school? My state has 106240 pupils in 393 primary schools, that’s an average of 270. Minimum size under ordinary circumstances is 80, the smallest is on Nordstrandischmoor: An island, 18 inhabitants, five families, one school, one teacher, two students, [here it is](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.5518864,8.8108853,16z?entry=ttu). That’s because we don’t do boarding in primary education so there’s a maximum tolerable commute time/distance, once those kids are old enough they’ll spend Monday through Friday on the mainland.\n
        \n
        If your system insists that a school have at least 2k students or such then, yes, of course, walking to school will be an impossibility for most. Fix your school sizes and like 99% of students will be able to walk or bike, use buses or minivans or whatnot for the rest we do that too (not really possible in Nordstrandischmoor, thing doesn’t even have a ferry but a rail link that’s only usable when the tide is low).\n
        \n
        And no it wasn’t my school it was my Kindergarten, which wasn’t, by a long shot, the closest to home it was the one my parents chose. I mentioned it to say that biking 3.5km is something a 4yold can do, physically, without any issue at all really.
        """
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      +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1579 …}
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      +body: """
        > Roads are typically 2 lanes one in each direction. You already know this because you said a solution would be to remove the lane marker.\n
        \n
        I’m someone else.\n
        \n
        > So you have a road with an elementary school, and 2 miles further down is a middle school. Even without that you have buses passing each other during pickup because busses only pickup kids on one side of the street so you don’t have young kids crossing roads.\n
        \n
        Lots of questions here: Why can’t kids walk 500m to the next bus stop? Why are streets so unsafe so that kids can’t cross them?\n
        \n
        Why assume that there’s no larger road in between those smaller roads? Roads generally form a hierarchy, you have big ones feeding into middle ones feeding into small ones. Small ones should absolutely be safe to cross, also without explicit crossings, because they’re traffic calmed and don’t have much traffic in the first place. That’s where houses and schools are, where there’s no through-traffic because even if they aren’t cul de sacs who would drive through a road you can’t drive fast on when there’s a mid-level road that you could take.\n
        \n
        > What do you call a section of inner city bounded on all sides by a road in your country?\n
        \n
        Straßenblock. Let me put it differently: We don’t have grids and nothing is regular. [This is about as grid-y as it gets](https://www.google.com/maps/@53.5753832,9.9851206,1090m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) and if you zoom in you’ll notice that the interior streets have no lane markers and some even are cobbled. Those connect to a street ( south, Hallerstraße) with bike lanes (don’t need those on smaller streets because there’s not enough traffic to warrant them), which connects to a four-lane (plus bus lane) street, Grindelalle, west. The intersection looks a bit crazy but it’s actually safe for pedestrians and you should’ve learned how to cross streets safely and what traffic lights are in Kindergarten. You’ve also been there with your parents (going shopping or whatever) a lot of times, nothing scary really. That kind of density and housing is probably illegal to build where you are (it’s illegal pretty much everywhere in the US and Canada).\n
        \n
        And mind you Hamburg is awful when it comes to urbanism, way too car-centric. Not because of lack of public transport but because politicians are unwilling to kill off car traffic and the whole city is full of rich fucks with too much disposable income.
        """
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        Let me look at a map… maybe 1km max anywhere in my 30k town to the next primary school and that’s when you’re living on the very very edge of town. Should be under 500m for most pupils.\n
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        If you’re living in a rural area, outside of the next village (which will have a school), which is an absolute exception as things tend to cluster into villages in rural areas, it might be 5km. Not really an issue with a bike, I biked what 3.5km to Kindergarten (together with my mom). If you have less density than that you probably should have boarding schools.\n
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        For secondary education, if you’re living in a village you’ll probably have to take the bus to the nearest city. Regular public transport though the schedule will take school times into account. Yes, kids can walk 500m to the nearest station.\n
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        Bonus: All that school density – smaller but way more of them – means that there’s obvious places to hold elections as there’s a municipality-owned place in Sunday stroll distance to pretty much everywhere. The only downside are the ludicrously low tables.
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        > A block in the US doesn’t mean a square either.\n
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        Yes, great, blame a non native speaker for expressing himself incorrectly, correcting himself, and then quadruple down on it. I was thinking of unprioritised NY-style blocks you see all over the place in US cities, gridlock magnets. You know, places where people say “down the block” and generally measure distances in blocks.\n
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        > It is required that children do not cross two lane roads to be picked up by school buses. I don’t make the rules. I don’t have a solution to US car culture. But making roads unpassable by school buses isn’t an answer.\n
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        If you look back at that Hamburg link, at those streets internal to the superblock, you’ll notice that they *are* wide enough for buses to go through. There’s no regular bus lines through there (there’s two metro stations and plenty of bus stops surrounding it) but a school bus isn’t regular service, it doesn’t need to play by the same rules. You can make a pickup at one of those very spacious intersections. It’s not being done because there’s schools in walking distance and German kids can cross roads but it *could* be done. Would you, however, ever speed on those roads.
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        Things aren’t done differently, in principle, in villages. You were the one brining up blocks or did you mean “buildings surrounded by roads *and fields*”.\n
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        [This is Wacken](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.0275469,9.3755654,169m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) (*the* Wacken), I zoomed you in on the primary school. There’s surrounding villages without school so it’s bound to get bus traffic. Note how it’s on a street that’s wide enough for that, but not the main road, the one with all the through-traffic. Can you understand that principle. (Main Roads, actually, Wacken has two, Schenefelder and Hauptstraße).\n
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        > I only took issue with the ridiculous idea that the roads in front of rural US schools could be made safer by making them impassable by busses.\n
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        Noone ever said that? At least I didn’t.
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        > You have one bus going in one direction to a school passing another bus going to another school.\n
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        In front of a school? Are your schools connected directly to highways or something?\n
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        > Have you only lived in an inner city where roads can be one way because they alternate in direction every block?\n
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        We don’t have blocks.
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        > Grundschule Niederstotzingen\n
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        [That’s not on a main road](https://www.google.com/maps/place/Grundschule+Niederstotzingen/@48.5416064,10.2369723,16.33z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x479946d4d21d8af1:0x28d0eb80cb17df7f!8m2!3d48.54188!4d10.23954!16s%2Fg%2F1tgfvlcm?entry=ttu). Zoom out a bit, the main roads are the ones leading to other villages, named after those villages (or in the case of Ulm a city in that direction).\n
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        > Grundschule Pfaffenhofen\n
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        [neither](https://www.google.com/maps/place/Grundschule+Pfaffenhofen/@49.0620402,8.9749824,16.67z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x410b8f8ce5cb2efb:0x31c87e2000d06919!8m2!3d49.06201!4d8.97686!16s%2Fg%2F1tdqmls_?entry=ttu)\n
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        Didn’t check the rest\n
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        > Just like US schools, many have their own driveway that goes off the main road\n
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        Those are residential roads. [This a view of the Niederstotzingen school from the road it’s on](https://www.google.com/maps/@48.542406,10.2389314,3a,60y,119.92h,81.99t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sW-TbbzDmkVz_-XMnR0tqYg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu), the gymnasium is on the other side. Look up and down the road, there’s residential buildings there. Looking at the signage (or rather lack thereof), it’s two-way. No lane markings though small roads just don’t have them, you slow down and make sure to not shear off your side mirrors with the side mirrors of oncoming traffic. The little shack with a sign with an H is a bus stop. Only seems to be served by one bus line (at least I can’t find more), [here’s the schelude](https://www.ding.eu/fileadmin/content/downloads/ics/20230421-DING-EVG-Streik-RAB-Bus/593-Streik-RAB-Fahrten.pdf). It connects to two train stations (including thie Niederstotzingen one) roughly every 30 minutes. Frankly speaking you can walk from there you’ll be faster than waiting for the next bus.\n
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        Niederstotzingen is classed as a city btw, almost 5k inhabitants. It’s not really a size thing in Germany though and nowadays the title doesn’t have any legal meaning, city rights were granted by Kaiser Sigismund in 1430, meaning it served as the local trade hub or such. Congratulations, thanks to wikipedia I know now more about a tiny city I don’t care about in a state I don’t care for :)
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        > Cost. That separate road means buying land from someone and turning it into road. Do they have one way roads for rural schools in Germany? Because I looked at a few Grundschule in Bavaria on Google maps and didn’t see any.\n
        \n
        You’ll have a hard time finding a village with *literally* one single road. Certainly not one 1-2k which is the size that gets the school for the surrounding ones.\n
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        > It is cheaper and more convenient to have a speed camera that is active only during school hours.\n
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        And also completely ineffective at preventing anything.Heck at least use road bumps. Narrow the road only in spots so that two monster trucks if you please fit on comfortably side by side for 50-100m or such, but then it narrows down to half that for just 5m. While you’re at it build a crossing there, narrowing the roads at pedestrian crossing is standard practice in many places and it makes a hell a lot of sense. Yes, that slows down traffic because you might have to negotiate with oncoming traffic who goes first. Yes, that’s precisely the point.
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    EDIT: since apparently a bunch of people woke up with the wrong foot this morning or forgot to check the group they’re in:\n
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    If you’re addicted to crack or any other drugs, please seek professional help.
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        Why can’t you have one-way streets in a rural area? Fork off the main street on one end, merge on the other. Pedestrian and bicycle traffic can be bidirectional, cars can take a little detour they don’t use muscle energy.\n
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        How does that translate to "block the street for buses? If a street fits two pickups it fits two buses. They’ll have to negotiate to move around each other so if you have many (which, as I told you a lot, you shouldn’t) you should consider a one-way road, or maybe a meeting bay, or a wider street with choke points, or whatever. But it’s not “blocking the road for buses”.
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        > Schools have more than one bus and they have to pass each other.\n
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        No they don’t they can enter from the same side. You’re just looking for excuses. Also why do you need buses in the first place why aren’t the kids walking or biking.
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        > That’s a main road.\n
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        [No it isn’t](https://dictionary.cambridge.org/de/worterbuch/essential-amerikanisches-englisch/main-road):\n
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        > a large road that goes from one town to another:\n
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        And yes you also see residential buildings on main roads. The reason this is a residential and not main road is due to its size and position away from through-traffic. It’s a road where you have a quick look and then just cross, main roads are of the “eh I can look but I probably need to get to a crossing to get across” territory.\n
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        US suburbia has a higher density than the German countryside, having to travel 24km is nuts. That’d be defensible if you live in a tiny settlement 24km from a place with more than two dozen houses – I’m sure those exist in the US but suburbia isn’t that.\n
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        How many pupils were there at your school? My state has 106240 pupils in 393 primary schools, that’s an average of 270. Minimum size under ordinary circumstances is 80, the smallest is on Nordstrandischmoor: An island, 18 inhabitants, five families, one school, one teacher, two students, [here it is](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.5518864,8.8108853,16z?entry=ttu). That’s because we don’t do boarding in primary education so there’s a maximum tolerable commute time/distance, once those kids are old enough they’ll spend Monday through Friday on the mainland.\n
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        And no it wasn’t my school it was my Kindergarten, which wasn’t, by a long shot, the closest to home it was the one my parents chose. I mentioned it to say that biking 3.5km is something a 4yold can do, physically, without any issue at all really.
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        > Roads are typically 2 lanes one in each direction. You already know this because you said a solution would be to remove the lane marker.\n
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        I’m someone else.\n
        \n
        > So you have a road with an elementary school, and 2 miles further down is a middle school. Even without that you have buses passing each other during pickup because busses only pickup kids on one side of the street so you don’t have young kids crossing roads.\n
        \n
        Lots of questions here: Why can’t kids walk 500m to the next bus stop? Why are streets so unsafe so that kids can’t cross them?\n
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        Why assume that there’s no larger road in between those smaller roads? Roads generally form a hierarchy, you have big ones feeding into middle ones feeding into small ones. Small ones should absolutely be safe to cross, also without explicit crossings, because they’re traffic calmed and don’t have much traffic in the first place. That’s where houses and schools are, where there’s no through-traffic because even if they aren’t cul de sacs who would drive through a road you can’t drive fast on when there’s a mid-level road that you could take.\n
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        > What do you call a section of inner city bounded on all sides by a road in your country?\n
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        Straßenblock. Let me put it differently: We don’t have grids and nothing is regular. [This is about as grid-y as it gets](https://www.google.com/maps/@53.5753832,9.9851206,1090m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) and if you zoom in you’ll notice that the interior streets have no lane markers and some even are cobbled. Those connect to a street ( south, Hallerstraße) with bike lanes (don’t need those on smaller streets because there’s not enough traffic to warrant them), which connects to a four-lane (plus bus lane) street, Grindelalle, west. The intersection looks a bit crazy but it’s actually safe for pedestrians and you should’ve learned how to cross streets safely and what traffic lights are in Kindergarten. You’ve also been there with your parents (going shopping or whatever) a lot of times, nothing scary really. That kind of density and housing is probably illegal to build where you are (it’s illegal pretty much everywhere in the US and Canada).\n
        \n
        And mind you Hamburg is awful when it comes to urbanism, way too car-centric. Not because of lack of public transport but because politicians are unwilling to kill off car traffic and the whole city is full of rich fucks with too much disposable income.
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        Let me look at a map… maybe 1km max anywhere in my 30k town to the next primary school and that’s when you’re living on the very very edge of town. Should be under 500m for most pupils.\n
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        If you’re living in a rural area, outside of the next village (which will have a school), which is an absolute exception as things tend to cluster into villages in rural areas, it might be 5km. Not really an issue with a bike, I biked what 3.5km to Kindergarten (together with my mom). If you have less density than that you probably should have boarding schools.\n
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        For secondary education, if you’re living in a village you’ll probably have to take the bus to the nearest city. Regular public transport though the schedule will take school times into account. Yes, kids can walk 500m to the nearest station.\n
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        Bonus: All that school density – smaller but way more of them – means that there’s obvious places to hold elections as there’s a municipality-owned place in Sunday stroll distance to pretty much everywhere. The only downside are the ludicrously low tables.
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        > A block in the US doesn’t mean a square either.\n
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        Yes, great, blame a non native speaker for expressing himself incorrectly, correcting himself, and then quadruple down on it. I was thinking of unprioritised NY-style blocks you see all over the place in US cities, gridlock magnets. You know, places where people say “down the block” and generally measure distances in blocks.\n
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        > It is required that children do not cross two lane roads to be picked up by school buses. I don’t make the rules. I don’t have a solution to US car culture. But making roads unpassable by school buses isn’t an answer.\n
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        If you look back at that Hamburg link, at those streets internal to the superblock, you’ll notice that they *are* wide enough for buses to go through. There’s no regular bus lines through there (there’s two metro stations and plenty of bus stops surrounding it) but a school bus isn’t regular service, it doesn’t need to play by the same rules. You can make a pickup at one of those very spacious intersections. It’s not being done because there’s schools in walking distance and German kids can cross roads but it *could* be done. Would you, however, ever speed on those roads.
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        Things aren’t done differently, in principle, in villages. You were the one brining up blocks or did you mean “buildings surrounded by roads *and fields*”.\n
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        [This is Wacken](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.0275469,9.3755654,169m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) (*the* Wacken), I zoomed you in on the primary school. There’s surrounding villages without school so it’s bound to get bus traffic. Note how it’s on a street that’s wide enough for that, but not the main road, the one with all the through-traffic. Can you understand that principle. (Main Roads, actually, Wacken has two, Schenefelder and Hauptstraße).\n
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        > I only took issue with the ridiculous idea that the roads in front of rural US schools could be made safer by making them impassable by busses.\n
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        Noone ever said that? At least I didn’t.
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        > You have one bus going in one direction to a school passing another bus going to another school.\n
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        In front of a school? Are your schools connected directly to highways or something?\n
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        > Have you only lived in an inner city where roads can be one way because they alternate in direction every block?\n
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        We don’t have blocks.
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        > Grundschule Niederstotzingen\n
        \n
        [That’s not on a main road](https://www.google.com/maps/place/Grundschule+Niederstotzingen/@48.5416064,10.2369723,16.33z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x479946d4d21d8af1:0x28d0eb80cb17df7f!8m2!3d48.54188!4d10.23954!16s%2Fg%2F1tgfvlcm?entry=ttu). Zoom out a bit, the main roads are the ones leading to other villages, named after those villages (or in the case of Ulm a city in that direction).\n
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        > Grundschule Pfaffenhofen\n
        \n
        [neither](https://www.google.com/maps/place/Grundschule+Pfaffenhofen/@49.0620402,8.9749824,16.67z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x410b8f8ce5cb2efb:0x31c87e2000d06919!8m2!3d49.06201!4d8.97686!16s%2Fg%2F1tdqmls_?entry=ttu)\n
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        Didn’t check the rest\n
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        > Just like US schools, many have their own driveway that goes off the main road\n
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        Those are residential roads. [This a view of the Niederstotzingen school from the road it’s on](https://www.google.com/maps/@48.542406,10.2389314,3a,60y,119.92h,81.99t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sW-TbbzDmkVz_-XMnR0tqYg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu), the gymnasium is on the other side. Look up and down the road, there’s residential buildings there. Looking at the signage (or rather lack thereof), it’s two-way. No lane markings though small roads just don’t have them, you slow down and make sure to not shear off your side mirrors with the side mirrors of oncoming traffic. The little shack with a sign with an H is a bus stop. Only seems to be served by one bus line (at least I can’t find more), [here’s the schelude](https://www.ding.eu/fileadmin/content/downloads/ics/20230421-DING-EVG-Streik-RAB-Bus/593-Streik-RAB-Fahrten.pdf). It connects to two train stations (including thie Niederstotzingen one) roughly every 30 minutes. Frankly speaking you can walk from there you’ll be faster than waiting for the next bus.\n
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        Niederstotzingen is classed as a city btw, almost 5k inhabitants. It’s not really a size thing in Germany though and nowadays the title doesn’t have any legal meaning, city rights were granted by Kaiser Sigismund in 1430, meaning it served as the local trade hub or such. Congratulations, thanks to wikipedia I know now more about a tiny city I don’t care about in a state I don’t care for :)
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        > Cost. That separate road means buying land from someone and turning it into road. Do they have one way roads for rural schools in Germany? Because I looked at a few Grundschule in Bavaria on Google maps and didn’t see any.\n
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        You’ll have a hard time finding a village with *literally* one single road. Certainly not one 1-2k which is the size that gets the school for the surrounding ones.\n
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    If you’re addicted to crack or any other drugs, please seek professional help.
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        Why can’t you have one-way streets in a rural area? Fork off the main street on one end, merge on the other. Pedestrian and bicycle traffic can be bidirectional, cars can take a little detour they don’t use muscle energy.\n
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        How does that translate to "block the street for buses? If a street fits two pickups it fits two buses. They’ll have to negotiate to move around each other so if you have many (which, as I told you a lot, you shouldn’t) you should consider a one-way road, or maybe a meeting bay, or a wider street with choke points, or whatever. But it’s not “blocking the road for buses”.
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        > Schools have more than one bus and they have to pass each other.\n
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        No they don’t they can enter from the same side. You’re just looking for excuses. Also why do you need buses in the first place why aren’t the kids walking or biking.
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        > That’s a main road.\n
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        [No it isn’t](https://dictionary.cambridge.org/de/worterbuch/essential-amerikanisches-englisch/main-road):\n
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        > a large road that goes from one town to another:\n
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        And yes you also see residential buildings on main roads. The reason this is a residential and not main road is due to its size and position away from through-traffic. It’s a road where you have a quick look and then just cross, main roads are of the “eh I can look but I probably need to get to a crossing to get across” territory.\n
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        US suburbia has a higher density than the German countryside, having to travel 24km is nuts. That’d be defensible if you live in a tiny settlement 24km from a place with more than two dozen houses – I’m sure those exist in the US but suburbia isn’t that.\n
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        How many pupils were there at your school? My state has 106240 pupils in 393 primary schools, that’s an average of 270. Minimum size under ordinary circumstances is 80, the smallest is on Nordstrandischmoor: An island, 18 inhabitants, five families, one school, one teacher, two students, [here it is](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.5518864,8.8108853,16z?entry=ttu). That’s because we don’t do boarding in primary education so there’s a maximum tolerable commute time/distance, once those kids are old enough they’ll spend Monday through Friday on the mainland.\n
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        If your system insists that a school have at least 2k students or such then, yes, of course, walking to school will be an impossibility for most. Fix your school sizes and like 99% of students will be able to walk or bike, use buses or minivans or whatnot for the rest we do that too (not really possible in Nordstrandischmoor, thing doesn’t even have a ferry but a rail link that’s only usable when the tide is low).\n
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        And no it wasn’t my school it was my Kindergarten, which wasn’t, by a long shot, the closest to home it was the one my parents chose. I mentioned it to say that biking 3.5km is something a 4yold can do, physically, without any issue at all really.
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        > Roads are typically 2 lanes one in each direction. You already know this because you said a solution would be to remove the lane marker.\n
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        I’m someone else.\n
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        > So you have a road with an elementary school, and 2 miles further down is a middle school. Even without that you have buses passing each other during pickup because busses only pickup kids on one side of the street so you don’t have young kids crossing roads.\n
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        Lots of questions here: Why can’t kids walk 500m to the next bus stop? Why are streets so unsafe so that kids can’t cross them?\n
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        Why assume that there’s no larger road in between those smaller roads? Roads generally form a hierarchy, you have big ones feeding into middle ones feeding into small ones. Small ones should absolutely be safe to cross, also without explicit crossings, because they’re traffic calmed and don’t have much traffic in the first place. That’s where houses and schools are, where there’s no through-traffic because even if they aren’t cul de sacs who would drive through a road you can’t drive fast on when there’s a mid-level road that you could take.\n
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        > What do you call a section of inner city bounded on all sides by a road in your country?\n
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        Straßenblock. Let me put it differently: We don’t have grids and nothing is regular. [This is about as grid-y as it gets](https://www.google.com/maps/@53.5753832,9.9851206,1090m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) and if you zoom in you’ll notice that the interior streets have no lane markers and some even are cobbled. Those connect to a street ( south, Hallerstraße) with bike lanes (don’t need those on smaller streets because there’s not enough traffic to warrant them), which connects to a four-lane (plus bus lane) street, Grindelalle, west. The intersection looks a bit crazy but it’s actually safe for pedestrians and you should’ve learned how to cross streets safely and what traffic lights are in Kindergarten. You’ve also been there with your parents (going shopping or whatever) a lot of times, nothing scary really. That kind of density and housing is probably illegal to build where you are (it’s illegal pretty much everywhere in the US and Canada).\n
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        And mind you Hamburg is awful when it comes to urbanism, way too car-centric. Not because of lack of public transport but because politicians are unwilling to kill off car traffic and the whole city is full of rich fucks with too much disposable income.
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        Let me look at a map… maybe 1km max anywhere in my 30k town to the next primary school and that’s when you’re living on the very very edge of town. Should be under 500m for most pupils.\n
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        If you’re living in a rural area, outside of the next village (which will have a school), which is an absolute exception as things tend to cluster into villages in rural areas, it might be 5km. Not really an issue with a bike, I biked what 3.5km to Kindergarten (together with my mom). If you have less density than that you probably should have boarding schools.\n
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        For secondary education, if you’re living in a village you’ll probably have to take the bus to the nearest city. Regular public transport though the schedule will take school times into account. Yes, kids can walk 500m to the nearest station.\n
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        Bonus: All that school density – smaller but way more of them – means that there’s obvious places to hold elections as there’s a municipality-owned place in Sunday stroll distance to pretty much everywhere. The only downside are the ludicrously low tables.
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        > A block in the US doesn’t mean a square either.\n
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        Yes, great, blame a non native speaker for expressing himself incorrectly, correcting himself, and then quadruple down on it. I was thinking of unprioritised NY-style blocks you see all over the place in US cities, gridlock magnets. You know, places where people say “down the block” and generally measure distances in blocks.\n
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        > It is required that children do not cross two lane roads to be picked up by school buses. I don’t make the rules. I don’t have a solution to US car culture. But making roads unpassable by school buses isn’t an answer.\n
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        If you look back at that Hamburg link, at those streets internal to the superblock, you’ll notice that they *are* wide enough for buses to go through. There’s no regular bus lines through there (there’s two metro stations and plenty of bus stops surrounding it) but a school bus isn’t regular service, it doesn’t need to play by the same rules. You can make a pickup at one of those very spacious intersections. It’s not being done because there’s schools in walking distance and German kids can cross roads but it *could* be done. Would you, however, ever speed on those roads.
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        Things aren’t done differently, in principle, in villages. You were the one brining up blocks or did you mean “buildings surrounded by roads *and fields*”.\n
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        [This is Wacken](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.0275469,9.3755654,169m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) (*the* Wacken), I zoomed you in on the primary school. There’s surrounding villages without school so it’s bound to get bus traffic. Note how it’s on a street that’s wide enough for that, but not the main road, the one with all the through-traffic. Can you understand that principle. (Main Roads, actually, Wacken has two, Schenefelder and Hauptstraße).\n
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        > I only took issue with the ridiculous idea that the roads in front of rural US schools could be made safer by making them impassable by busses.\n
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        Noone ever said that? At least I didn’t.
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        > You have one bus going in one direction to a school passing another bus going to another school.\n
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        In front of a school? Are your schools connected directly to highways or something?\n
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        We don’t have blocks.
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        > Grundschule Niederstotzingen\n
        \n
        [That’s not on a main road](https://www.google.com/maps/place/Grundschule+Niederstotzingen/@48.5416064,10.2369723,16.33z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x479946d4d21d8af1:0x28d0eb80cb17df7f!8m2!3d48.54188!4d10.23954!16s%2Fg%2F1tgfvlcm?entry=ttu). Zoom out a bit, the main roads are the ones leading to other villages, named after those villages (or in the case of Ulm a city in that direction).\n
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        > Grundschule Pfaffenhofen\n
        \n
        [neither](https://www.google.com/maps/place/Grundschule+Pfaffenhofen/@49.0620402,8.9749824,16.67z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x410b8f8ce5cb2efb:0x31c87e2000d06919!8m2!3d49.06201!4d8.97686!16s%2Fg%2F1tdqmls_?entry=ttu)\n
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        Didn’t check the rest\n
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        > Just like US schools, many have their own driveway that goes off the main road\n
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        Those are residential roads. [This a view of the Niederstotzingen school from the road it’s on](https://www.google.com/maps/@48.542406,10.2389314,3a,60y,119.92h,81.99t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sW-TbbzDmkVz_-XMnR0tqYg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu), the gymnasium is on the other side. Look up and down the road, there’s residential buildings there. Looking at the signage (or rather lack thereof), it’s two-way. No lane markings though small roads just don’t have them, you slow down and make sure to not shear off your side mirrors with the side mirrors of oncoming traffic. The little shack with a sign with an H is a bus stop. Only seems to be served by one bus line (at least I can’t find more), [here’s the schelude](https://www.ding.eu/fileadmin/content/downloads/ics/20230421-DING-EVG-Streik-RAB-Bus/593-Streik-RAB-Fahrten.pdf). It connects to two train stations (including thie Niederstotzingen one) roughly every 30 minutes. Frankly speaking you can walk from there you’ll be faster than waiting for the next bus.\n
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        Niederstotzingen is classed as a city btw, almost 5k inhabitants. It’s not really a size thing in Germany though and nowadays the title doesn’t have any legal meaning, city rights were granted by Kaiser Sigismund in 1430, meaning it served as the local trade hub or such. Congratulations, thanks to wikipedia I know now more about a tiny city I don’t care about in a state I don’t care for :)
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        > Cost. That separate road means buying land from someone and turning it into road. Do they have one way roads for rural schools in Germany? Because I looked at a few Grundschule in Bavaria on Google maps and didn’t see any.\n
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        You’ll have a hard time finding a village with *literally* one single road. Certainly not one 1-2k which is the size that gets the school for the surrounding ones.\n
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          > That’s a main road.\n
          \n
          [No it isn’t](https://dictionary.cambridge.org/de/worterbuch/essential-amerikanisches-englisch/main-road):\n
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          > a large road that goes from one town to another:\n
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          And yes you also see residential buildings on main roads. The reason this is a residential and not main road is due to its size and position away from through-traffic. It’s a road where you have a quick look and then just cross, main roads are of the “eh I can look but I probably need to get to a crossing to get across” territory.\n
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          And no there’s no speed bumps why would there if the road is narrow enough and people naturally drive slow enough, there’s no through traffic, the residents don’t race on it, etc.
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          US suburbia has a higher density than the German countryside, having to travel 24km is nuts. That’d be defensible if you live in a tiny settlement 24km from a place with more than two dozen houses – I’m sure those exist in the US but suburbia isn’t that.\n
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          How many pupils were there at your school? My state has 106240 pupils in 393 primary schools, that’s an average of 270. Minimum size under ordinary circumstances is 80, the smallest is on Nordstrandischmoor: An island, 18 inhabitants, five families, one school, one teacher, two students, [here it is](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.5518864,8.8108853,16z?entry=ttu). That’s because we don’t do boarding in primary education so there’s a maximum tolerable commute time/distance, once those kids are old enough they’ll spend Monday through Friday on the mainland.\n
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          If your system insists that a school have at least 2k students or such then, yes, of course, walking to school will be an impossibility for most. Fix your school sizes and like 99% of students will be able to walk or bike, use buses or minivans or whatnot for the rest we do that too (not really possible in Nordstrandischmoor, thing doesn’t even have a ferry but a rail link that’s only usable when the tide is low).\n
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          And no it wasn’t my school it was my Kindergarten, which wasn’t, by a long shot, the closest to home it was the one my parents chose. I mentioned it to say that biking 3.5km is something a 4yold can do, physically, without any issue at all really.
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          > Roads are typically 2 lanes one in each direction. You already know this because you said a solution would be to remove the lane marker.\n
          \n
          I’m someone else.\n
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          > So you have a road with an elementary school, and 2 miles further down is a middle school. Even without that you have buses passing each other during pickup because busses only pickup kids on one side of the street so you don’t have young kids crossing roads.\n
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          Lots of questions here: Why can’t kids walk 500m to the next bus stop? Why are streets so unsafe so that kids can’t cross them?\n
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          Why assume that there’s no larger road in between those smaller roads? Roads generally form a hierarchy, you have big ones feeding into middle ones feeding into small ones. Small ones should absolutely be safe to cross, also without explicit crossings, because they’re traffic calmed and don’t have much traffic in the first place. That’s where houses and schools are, where there’s no through-traffic because even if they aren’t cul de sacs who would drive through a road you can’t drive fast on when there’s a mid-level road that you could take.\n
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          > What do you call a section of inner city bounded on all sides by a road in your country?\n
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          Straßenblock. Let me put it differently: We don’t have grids and nothing is regular. [This is about as grid-y as it gets](https://www.google.com/maps/@53.5753832,9.9851206,1090m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) and if you zoom in you’ll notice that the interior streets have no lane markers and some even are cobbled. Those connect to a street ( south, Hallerstraße) with bike lanes (don’t need those on smaller streets because there’s not enough traffic to warrant them), which connects to a four-lane (plus bus lane) street, Grindelalle, west. The intersection looks a bit crazy but it’s actually safe for pedestrians and you should’ve learned how to cross streets safely and what traffic lights are in Kindergarten. You’ve also been there with your parents (going shopping or whatever) a lot of times, nothing scary really. That kind of density and housing is probably illegal to build where you are (it’s illegal pretty much everywhere in the US and Canada).\n
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          And mind you Hamburg is awful when it comes to urbanism, way too car-centric. Not because of lack of public transport but because politicians are unwilling to kill off car traffic and the whole city is full of rich fucks with too much disposable income.
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          Let me look at a map… maybe 1km max anywhere in my 30k town to the next primary school and that’s when you’re living on the very very edge of town. Should be under 500m for most pupils.\n
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          If you’re living in a rural area, outside of the next village (which will have a school), which is an absolute exception as things tend to cluster into villages in rural areas, it might be 5km. Not really an issue with a bike, I biked what 3.5km to Kindergarten (together with my mom). If you have less density than that you probably should have boarding schools.\n
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          For secondary education, if you’re living in a village you’ll probably have to take the bus to the nearest city. Regular public transport though the schedule will take school times into account. Yes, kids can walk 500m to the nearest station.\n
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          Bonus: All that school density – smaller but way more of them – means that there’s obvious places to hold elections as there’s a municipality-owned place in Sunday stroll distance to pretty much everywhere. The only downside are the ludicrously low tables.
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          > A block in the US doesn’t mean a square either.\n
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          Yes, great, blame a non native speaker for expressing himself incorrectly, correcting himself, and then quadruple down on it. I was thinking of unprioritised NY-style blocks you see all over the place in US cities, gridlock magnets. You know, places where people say “down the block” and generally measure distances in blocks.\n
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          > It is required that children do not cross two lane roads to be picked up by school buses. I don’t make the rules. I don’t have a solution to US car culture. But making roads unpassable by school buses isn’t an answer.\n
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          If you look back at that Hamburg link, at those streets internal to the superblock, you’ll notice that they *are* wide enough for buses to go through. There’s no regular bus lines through there (there’s two metro stations and plenty of bus stops surrounding it) but a school bus isn’t regular service, it doesn’t need to play by the same rules. You can make a pickup at one of those very spacious intersections. It’s not being done because there’s schools in walking distance and German kids can cross roads but it *could* be done. Would you, however, ever speed on those roads.
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          Things aren’t done differently, in principle, in villages. You were the one brining up blocks or did you mean “buildings surrounded by roads *and fields*”.\n
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          [This is Wacken](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.0275469,9.3755654,169m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) (*the* Wacken), I zoomed you in on the primary school. There’s surrounding villages without school so it’s bound to get bus traffic. Note how it’s on a street that’s wide enough for that, but not the main road, the one with all the through-traffic. Can you understand that principle. (Main Roads, actually, Wacken has two, Schenefelder and Hauptstraße).\n
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          > I only took issue with the ridiculous idea that the roads in front of rural US schools could be made safer by making them impassable by busses.\n
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          Noone ever said that? At least I didn’t.
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          > You have one bus going in one direction to a school passing another bus going to another school.\n
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          In front of a school? Are your schools connected directly to highways or something?\n
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          > Have you only lived in an inner city where roads can be one way because they alternate in direction every block?\n
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          We don’t have blocks.
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          > Grundschule Niederstotzingen\n
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          [That’s not on a main road](https://www.google.com/maps/place/Grundschule+Niederstotzingen/@48.5416064,10.2369723,16.33z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x479946d4d21d8af1:0x28d0eb80cb17df7f!8m2!3d48.54188!4d10.23954!16s%2Fg%2F1tgfvlcm?entry=ttu). Zoom out a bit, the main roads are the ones leading to other villages, named after those villages (or in the case of Ulm a city in that direction).\n
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          > Grundschule Pfaffenhofen\n
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          [neither](https://www.google.com/maps/place/Grundschule+Pfaffenhofen/@49.0620402,8.9749824,16.67z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x410b8f8ce5cb2efb:0x31c87e2000d06919!8m2!3d49.06201!4d8.97686!16s%2Fg%2F1tdqmls_?entry=ttu)\n
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          Didn’t check the rest\n
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          > Just like US schools, many have their own driveway that goes off the main road\n
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          Those are residential roads. [This a view of the Niederstotzingen school from the road it’s on](https://www.google.com/maps/@48.542406,10.2389314,3a,60y,119.92h,81.99t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sW-TbbzDmkVz_-XMnR0tqYg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu), the gymnasium is on the other side. Look up and down the road, there’s residential buildings there. Looking at the signage (or rather lack thereof), it’s two-way. No lane markings though small roads just don’t have them, you slow down and make sure to not shear off your side mirrors with the side mirrors of oncoming traffic. The little shack with a sign with an H is a bus stop. Only seems to be served by one bus line (at least I can’t find more), [here’s the schelude](https://www.ding.eu/fileadmin/content/downloads/ics/20230421-DING-EVG-Streik-RAB-Bus/593-Streik-RAB-Fahrten.pdf). It connects to two train stations (including thie Niederstotzingen one) roughly every 30 minutes. Frankly speaking you can walk from there you’ll be faster than waiting for the next bus.\n
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          Niederstotzingen is classed as a city btw, almost 5k inhabitants. It’s not really a size thing in Germany though and nowadays the title doesn’t have any legal meaning, city rights were granted by Kaiser Sigismund in 1430, meaning it served as the local trade hub or such. Congratulations, thanks to wikipedia I know now more about a tiny city I don’t care about in a state I don’t care for :)
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          > Cost. That separate road means buying land from someone and turning it into road. Do they have one way roads for rural schools in Germany? Because I looked at a few Grundschule in Bavaria on Google maps and didn’t see any.\n
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          You’ll have a hard time finding a village with *literally* one single road. Certainly not one 1-2k which is the size that gets the school for the surrounding ones.\n
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          > It is cheaper and more convenient to have a speed camera that is active only during school hours.\n
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          And also completely ineffective at preventing anything.Heck at least use road bumps. Narrow the road only in spots so that two monster trucks if you please fit on comfortably side by side for 50-100m or such, but then it narrows down to half that for just 5m. While you’re at it build a crossing there, narrowing the roads at pedestrian crossing is standard practice in many places and it makes a hell a lot of sense. Yes, that slows down traffic because you might have to negotiate with oncoming traffic who goes first. Yes, that’s precisely the point.
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    Why can’t you have one-way streets in a rural area? Fork off the main street on one end, merge on the other. Pedestrian and bicycle traffic can be bidirectional, cars can take a little detour they don’t use muscle energy.\n
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    > > Wide enough for one pickup and no opposing traffic, but so narrow that two pickups are going to really have to negotiate to move around each other."\n
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    How does that translate to "block the street for buses? If a street fits two pickups it fits two buses. They’ll have to negotiate to move around each other so if you have many (which, as I told you a lot, you shouldn’t) you should consider a one-way road, or maybe a meeting bay, or a wider street with choke points, or whatever. But it’s not “blocking the road for buses”.
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    +slug: "Get-to-work-crackheads"
    +title: "Get to work, crackheads"
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      EDIT: since apparently a bunch of people woke up with the wrong foot this morning or forgot to check the group they’re in:\n
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      This is a joke. Do not steal or vandalize speed enforcement cameras (or anything else for that matter). That’s against the law and you will likely get arrested.\n
      \n
      If you’re addicted to crack or any other drugs, please seek professional help.
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          > Schools have more than one bus and they have to pass each other.\n
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          No they don’t they can enter from the same side. You’re just looking for excuses. Also why do you need buses in the first place why aren’t the kids walking or biking.
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          > That’s a main road.\n
          \n
          [No it isn’t](https://dictionary.cambridge.org/de/worterbuch/essential-amerikanisches-englisch/main-road):\n
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          > a large road that goes from one town to another:\n
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          And yes you also see residential buildings on main roads. The reason this is a residential and not main road is due to its size and position away from through-traffic. It’s a road where you have a quick look and then just cross, main roads are of the “eh I can look but I probably need to get to a crossing to get across” territory.\n
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          And no there’s no speed bumps why would there if the road is narrow enough and people naturally drive slow enough, there’s no through traffic, the residents don’t race on it, etc.
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          US suburbia has a higher density than the German countryside, having to travel 24km is nuts. That’d be defensible if you live in a tiny settlement 24km from a place with more than two dozen houses – I’m sure those exist in the US but suburbia isn’t that.\n
          \n
          How many pupils were there at your school? My state has 106240 pupils in 393 primary schools, that’s an average of 270. Minimum size under ordinary circumstances is 80, the smallest is on Nordstrandischmoor: An island, 18 inhabitants, five families, one school, one teacher, two students, [here it is](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.5518864,8.8108853,16z?entry=ttu). That’s because we don’t do boarding in primary education so there’s a maximum tolerable commute time/distance, once those kids are old enough they’ll spend Monday through Friday on the mainland.\n
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          If your system insists that a school have at least 2k students or such then, yes, of course, walking to school will be an impossibility for most. Fix your school sizes and like 99% of students will be able to walk or bike, use buses or minivans or whatnot for the rest we do that too (not really possible in Nordstrandischmoor, thing doesn’t even have a ferry but a rail link that’s only usable when the tide is low).\n
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          And no it wasn’t my school it was my Kindergarten, which wasn’t, by a long shot, the closest to home it was the one my parents chose. I mentioned it to say that biking 3.5km is something a 4yold can do, physically, without any issue at all really.
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          > Roads are typically 2 lanes one in each direction. You already know this because you said a solution would be to remove the lane marker.\n
          \n
          I’m someone else.\n
          \n
          > So you have a road with an elementary school, and 2 miles further down is a middle school. Even without that you have buses passing each other during pickup because busses only pickup kids on one side of the street so you don’t have young kids crossing roads.\n
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          Lots of questions here: Why can’t kids walk 500m to the next bus stop? Why are streets so unsafe so that kids can’t cross them?\n
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          Why assume that there’s no larger road in between those smaller roads? Roads generally form a hierarchy, you have big ones feeding into middle ones feeding into small ones. Small ones should absolutely be safe to cross, also without explicit crossings, because they’re traffic calmed and don’t have much traffic in the first place. That’s where houses and schools are, where there’s no through-traffic because even if they aren’t cul de sacs who would drive through a road you can’t drive fast on when there’s a mid-level road that you could take.\n
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          > What do you call a section of inner city bounded on all sides by a road in your country?\n
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          Straßenblock. Let me put it differently: We don’t have grids and nothing is regular. [This is about as grid-y as it gets](https://www.google.com/maps/@53.5753832,9.9851206,1090m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) and if you zoom in you’ll notice that the interior streets have no lane markers and some even are cobbled. Those connect to a street ( south, Hallerstraße) with bike lanes (don’t need those on smaller streets because there’s not enough traffic to warrant them), which connects to a four-lane (plus bus lane) street, Grindelalle, west. The intersection looks a bit crazy but it’s actually safe for pedestrians and you should’ve learned how to cross streets safely and what traffic lights are in Kindergarten. You’ve also been there with your parents (going shopping or whatever) a lot of times, nothing scary really. That kind of density and housing is probably illegal to build where you are (it’s illegal pretty much everywhere in the US and Canada).\n
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          And mind you Hamburg is awful when it comes to urbanism, way too car-centric. Not because of lack of public transport but because politicians are unwilling to kill off car traffic and the whole city is full of rich fucks with too much disposable income.
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          Let me look at a map… maybe 1km max anywhere in my 30k town to the next primary school and that’s when you’re living on the very very edge of town. Should be under 500m for most pupils.\n
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          If you’re living in a rural area, outside of the next village (which will have a school), which is an absolute exception as things tend to cluster into villages in rural areas, it might be 5km. Not really an issue with a bike, I biked what 3.5km to Kindergarten (together with my mom). If you have less density than that you probably should have boarding schools.\n
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          For secondary education, if you’re living in a village you’ll probably have to take the bus to the nearest city. Regular public transport though the schedule will take school times into account. Yes, kids can walk 500m to the nearest station.\n
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          Bonus: All that school density – smaller but way more of them – means that there’s obvious places to hold elections as there’s a municipality-owned place in Sunday stroll distance to pretty much everywhere. The only downside are the ludicrously low tables.
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          > A block in the US doesn’t mean a square either.\n
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          Yes, great, blame a non native speaker for expressing himself incorrectly, correcting himself, and then quadruple down on it. I was thinking of unprioritised NY-style blocks you see all over the place in US cities, gridlock magnets. You know, places where people say “down the block” and generally measure distances in blocks.\n
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          > It is required that children do not cross two lane roads to be picked up by school buses. I don’t make the rules. I don’t have a solution to US car culture. But making roads unpassable by school buses isn’t an answer.\n
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          If you look back at that Hamburg link, at those streets internal to the superblock, you’ll notice that they *are* wide enough for buses to go through. There’s no regular bus lines through there (there’s two metro stations and plenty of bus stops surrounding it) but a school bus isn’t regular service, it doesn’t need to play by the same rules. You can make a pickup at one of those very spacious intersections. It’s not being done because there’s schools in walking distance and German kids can cross roads but it *could* be done. Would you, however, ever speed on those roads.
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          Things aren’t done differently, in principle, in villages. You were the one brining up blocks or did you mean “buildings surrounded by roads *and fields*”.\n
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          [This is Wacken](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.0275469,9.3755654,169m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) (*the* Wacken), I zoomed you in on the primary school. There’s surrounding villages without school so it’s bound to get bus traffic. Note how it’s on a street that’s wide enough for that, but not the main road, the one with all the through-traffic. Can you understand that principle. (Main Roads, actually, Wacken has two, Schenefelder and Hauptstraße).\n
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          > I only took issue with the ridiculous idea that the roads in front of rural US schools could be made safer by making them impassable by busses.\n
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          Noone ever said that? At least I didn’t.
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          > You have one bus going in one direction to a school passing another bus going to another school.\n
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          In front of a school? Are your schools connected directly to highways or something?\n
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          > Have you only lived in an inner city where roads can be one way because they alternate in direction every block?\n
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          We don’t have blocks.
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          > Grundschule Niederstotzingen\n
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          [That’s not on a main road](https://www.google.com/maps/place/Grundschule+Niederstotzingen/@48.5416064,10.2369723,16.33z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x479946d4d21d8af1:0x28d0eb80cb17df7f!8m2!3d48.54188!4d10.23954!16s%2Fg%2F1tgfvlcm?entry=ttu). Zoom out a bit, the main roads are the ones leading to other villages, named after those villages (or in the case of Ulm a city in that direction).\n
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          > Grundschule Pfaffenhofen\n
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          [neither](https://www.google.com/maps/place/Grundschule+Pfaffenhofen/@49.0620402,8.9749824,16.67z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x410b8f8ce5cb2efb:0x31c87e2000d06919!8m2!3d49.06201!4d8.97686!16s%2Fg%2F1tdqmls_?entry=ttu)\n
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          Didn’t check the rest\n
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          > Just like US schools, many have their own driveway that goes off the main road\n
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          Those are residential roads. [This a view of the Niederstotzingen school from the road it’s on](https://www.google.com/maps/@48.542406,10.2389314,3a,60y,119.92h,81.99t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sW-TbbzDmkVz_-XMnR0tqYg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu), the gymnasium is on the other side. Look up and down the road, there’s residential buildings there. Looking at the signage (or rather lack thereof), it’s two-way. No lane markings though small roads just don’t have them, you slow down and make sure to not shear off your side mirrors with the side mirrors of oncoming traffic. The little shack with a sign with an H is a bus stop. Only seems to be served by one bus line (at least I can’t find more), [here’s the schelude](https://www.ding.eu/fileadmin/content/downloads/ics/20230421-DING-EVG-Streik-RAB-Bus/593-Streik-RAB-Fahrten.pdf). It connects to two train stations (including thie Niederstotzingen one) roughly every 30 minutes. Frankly speaking you can walk from there you’ll be faster than waiting for the next bus.\n
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          Niederstotzingen is classed as a city btw, almost 5k inhabitants. It’s not really a size thing in Germany though and nowadays the title doesn’t have any legal meaning, city rights were granted by Kaiser Sigismund in 1430, meaning it served as the local trade hub or such. Congratulations, thanks to wikipedia I know now more about a tiny city I don’t care about in a state I don’t care for :)
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          > Cost. That separate road means buying land from someone and turning it into road. Do they have one way roads for rural schools in Germany? Because I looked at a few Grundschule in Bavaria on Google maps and didn’t see any.\n
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          You’ll have a hard time finding a village with *literally* one single road. Certainly not one 1-2k which is the size that gets the school for the surrounding ones.\n
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          > It is cheaper and more convenient to have a speed camera that is active only during school hours.\n
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          And also completely ineffective at preventing anything.Heck at least use road bumps. Narrow the road only in spots so that two monster trucks if you please fit on comfortably side by side for 50-100m or such, but then it narrows down to half that for just 5m. While you’re at it build a crossing there, narrowing the roads at pedestrian crossing is standard practice in many places and it makes a hell a lot of sense. Yes, that slows down traffic because you might have to negotiate with oncoming traffic who goes first. Yes, that’s precisely the point.
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    Why can’t you have one-way streets in a rural area? Fork off the main street on one end, merge on the other. Pedestrian and bicycle traffic can be bidirectional, cars can take a little detour they don’t use muscle energy.\n
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    > > Wide enough for one pickup and no opposing traffic, but so narrow that two pickups are going to really have to negotiate to move around each other."\n
    \n
    How does that translate to "block the street for buses? If a street fits two pickups it fits two buses. They’ll have to negotiate to move around each other so if you have many (which, as I told you a lot, you shouldn’t) you should consider a one-way road, or maybe a meeting bay, or a wider street with choke points, or whatever. But it’s not “blocking the road for buses”.
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      EDIT: since apparently a bunch of people woke up with the wrong foot this morning or forgot to check the group they’re in:\n
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      If you’re addicted to crack or any other drugs, please seek professional help.
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          > Schools have more than one bus and they have to pass each other.\n
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          No they don’t they can enter from the same side. You’re just looking for excuses. Also why do you need buses in the first place why aren’t the kids walking or biking.
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          > That’s a main road.\n
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          [No it isn’t](https://dictionary.cambridge.org/de/worterbuch/essential-amerikanisches-englisch/main-road):\n
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          > a large road that goes from one town to another:\n
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          And yes you also see residential buildings on main roads. The reason this is a residential and not main road is due to its size and position away from through-traffic. It’s a road where you have a quick look and then just cross, main roads are of the “eh I can look but I probably need to get to a crossing to get across” territory.\n
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          And no there’s no speed bumps why would there if the road is narrow enough and people naturally drive slow enough, there’s no through traffic, the residents don’t race on it, etc.
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          US suburbia has a higher density than the German countryside, having to travel 24km is nuts. That’d be defensible if you live in a tiny settlement 24km from a place with more than two dozen houses – I’m sure those exist in the US but suburbia isn’t that.\n
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          How many pupils were there at your school? My state has 106240 pupils in 393 primary schools, that’s an average of 270. Minimum size under ordinary circumstances is 80, the smallest is on Nordstrandischmoor: An island, 18 inhabitants, five families, one school, one teacher, two students, [here it is](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.5518864,8.8108853,16z?entry=ttu). That’s because we don’t do boarding in primary education so there’s a maximum tolerable commute time/distance, once those kids are old enough they’ll spend Monday through Friday on the mainland.\n
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          If your system insists that a school have at least 2k students or such then, yes, of course, walking to school will be an impossibility for most. Fix your school sizes and like 99% of students will be able to walk or bike, use buses or minivans or whatnot for the rest we do that too (not really possible in Nordstrandischmoor, thing doesn’t even have a ferry but a rail link that’s only usable when the tide is low).\n
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          And no it wasn’t my school it was my Kindergarten, which wasn’t, by a long shot, the closest to home it was the one my parents chose. I mentioned it to say that biking 3.5km is something a 4yold can do, physically, without any issue at all really.
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          > Roads are typically 2 lanes one in each direction. You already know this because you said a solution would be to remove the lane marker.\n
          \n
          I’m someone else.\n
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          > So you have a road with an elementary school, and 2 miles further down is a middle school. Even without that you have buses passing each other during pickup because busses only pickup kids on one side of the street so you don’t have young kids crossing roads.\n
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          Lots of questions here: Why can’t kids walk 500m to the next bus stop? Why are streets so unsafe so that kids can’t cross them?\n
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          Why assume that there’s no larger road in between those smaller roads? Roads generally form a hierarchy, you have big ones feeding into middle ones feeding into small ones. Small ones should absolutely be safe to cross, also without explicit crossings, because they’re traffic calmed and don’t have much traffic in the first place. That’s where houses and schools are, where there’s no through-traffic because even if they aren’t cul de sacs who would drive through a road you can’t drive fast on when there’s a mid-level road that you could take.\n
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          > What do you call a section of inner city bounded on all sides by a road in your country?\n
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          Straßenblock. Let me put it differently: We don’t have grids and nothing is regular. [This is about as grid-y as it gets](https://www.google.com/maps/@53.5753832,9.9851206,1090m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) and if you zoom in you’ll notice that the interior streets have no lane markers and some even are cobbled. Those connect to a street ( south, Hallerstraße) with bike lanes (don’t need those on smaller streets because there’s not enough traffic to warrant them), which connects to a four-lane (plus bus lane) street, Grindelalle, west. The intersection looks a bit crazy but it’s actually safe for pedestrians and you should’ve learned how to cross streets safely and what traffic lights are in Kindergarten. You’ve also been there with your parents (going shopping or whatever) a lot of times, nothing scary really. That kind of density and housing is probably illegal to build where you are (it’s illegal pretty much everywhere in the US and Canada).\n
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          And mind you Hamburg is awful when it comes to urbanism, way too car-centric. Not because of lack of public transport but because politicians are unwilling to kill off car traffic and the whole city is full of rich fucks with too much disposable income.
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          Let me look at a map… maybe 1km max anywhere in my 30k town to the next primary school and that’s when you’re living on the very very edge of town. Should be under 500m for most pupils.\n
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          If you’re living in a rural area, outside of the next village (which will have a school), which is an absolute exception as things tend to cluster into villages in rural areas, it might be 5km. Not really an issue with a bike, I biked what 3.5km to Kindergarten (together with my mom). If you have less density than that you probably should have boarding schools.\n
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          For secondary education, if you’re living in a village you’ll probably have to take the bus to the nearest city. Regular public transport though the schedule will take school times into account. Yes, kids can walk 500m to the nearest station.\n
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          Bonus: All that school density – smaller but way more of them – means that there’s obvious places to hold elections as there’s a municipality-owned place in Sunday stroll distance to pretty much everywhere. The only downside are the ludicrously low tables.
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          > A block in the US doesn’t mean a square either.\n
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          Yes, great, blame a non native speaker for expressing himself incorrectly, correcting himself, and then quadruple down on it. I was thinking of unprioritised NY-style blocks you see all over the place in US cities, gridlock magnets. You know, places where people say “down the block” and generally measure distances in blocks.\n
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          > It is required that children do not cross two lane roads to be picked up by school buses. I don’t make the rules. I don’t have a solution to US car culture. But making roads unpassable by school buses isn’t an answer.\n
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          If you look back at that Hamburg link, at those streets internal to the superblock, you’ll notice that they *are* wide enough for buses to go through. There’s no regular bus lines through there (there’s two metro stations and plenty of bus stops surrounding it) but a school bus isn’t regular service, it doesn’t need to play by the same rules. You can make a pickup at one of those very spacious intersections. It’s not being done because there’s schools in walking distance and German kids can cross roads but it *could* be done. Would you, however, ever speed on those roads.
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          Things aren’t done differently, in principle, in villages. You were the one brining up blocks or did you mean “buildings surrounded by roads *and fields*”.\n
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          [This is Wacken](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.0275469,9.3755654,169m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) (*the* Wacken), I zoomed you in on the primary school. There’s surrounding villages without school so it’s bound to get bus traffic. Note how it’s on a street that’s wide enough for that, but not the main road, the one with all the through-traffic. Can you understand that principle. (Main Roads, actually, Wacken has two, Schenefelder and Hauptstraße).\n
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          > I only took issue with the ridiculous idea that the roads in front of rural US schools could be made safer by making them impassable by busses.\n
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          Noone ever said that? At least I didn’t.
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          > You have one bus going in one direction to a school passing another bus going to another school.\n
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          In front of a school? Are your schools connected directly to highways or something?\n
          \n
          > Have you only lived in an inner city where roads can be one way because they alternate in direction every block?\n
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          We don’t have blocks.
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          > Grundschule Niederstotzingen\n
          \n
          [That’s not on a main road](https://www.google.com/maps/place/Grundschule+Niederstotzingen/@48.5416064,10.2369723,16.33z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x479946d4d21d8af1:0x28d0eb80cb17df7f!8m2!3d48.54188!4d10.23954!16s%2Fg%2F1tgfvlcm?entry=ttu). Zoom out a bit, the main roads are the ones leading to other villages, named after those villages (or in the case of Ulm a city in that direction).\n
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          > Grundschule Pfaffenhofen\n
          \n
          [neither](https://www.google.com/maps/place/Grundschule+Pfaffenhofen/@49.0620402,8.9749824,16.67z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x410b8f8ce5cb2efb:0x31c87e2000d06919!8m2!3d49.06201!4d8.97686!16s%2Fg%2F1tdqmls_?entry=ttu)\n
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          Didn’t check the rest\n
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          > Just like US schools, many have their own driveway that goes off the main road\n
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          Those are residential roads. [This a view of the Niederstotzingen school from the road it’s on](https://www.google.com/maps/@48.542406,10.2389314,3a,60y,119.92h,81.99t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sW-TbbzDmkVz_-XMnR0tqYg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu), the gymnasium is on the other side. Look up and down the road, there’s residential buildings there. Looking at the signage (or rather lack thereof), it’s two-way. No lane markings though small roads just don’t have them, you slow down and make sure to not shear off your side mirrors with the side mirrors of oncoming traffic. The little shack with a sign with an H is a bus stop. Only seems to be served by one bus line (at least I can’t find more), [here’s the schelude](https://www.ding.eu/fileadmin/content/downloads/ics/20230421-DING-EVG-Streik-RAB-Bus/593-Streik-RAB-Fahrten.pdf). It connects to two train stations (including thie Niederstotzingen one) roughly every 30 minutes. Frankly speaking you can walk from there you’ll be faster than waiting for the next bus.\n
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          Niederstotzingen is classed as a city btw, almost 5k inhabitants. It’s not really a size thing in Germany though and nowadays the title doesn’t have any legal meaning, city rights were granted by Kaiser Sigismund in 1430, meaning it served as the local trade hub or such. Congratulations, thanks to wikipedia I know now more about a tiny city I don’t care about in a state I don’t care for :)
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          > Cost. That separate road means buying land from someone and turning it into road. Do they have one way roads for rural schools in Germany? Because I looked at a few Grundschule in Bavaria on Google maps and didn’t see any.\n
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          You’ll have a hard time finding a village with *literally* one single road. Certainly not one 1-2k which is the size that gets the school for the surrounding ones.\n
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          > It is cheaper and more convenient to have a speed camera that is active only during school hours.\n
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          And also completely ineffective at preventing anything.Heck at least use road bumps. Narrow the road only in spots so that two monster trucks if you please fit on comfortably side by side for 50-100m or such, but then it narrows down to half that for just 5m. While you’re at it build a crossing there, narrowing the roads at pedestrian crossing is standard practice in many places and it makes a hell a lot of sense. Yes, that slows down traffic because you might have to negotiate with oncoming traffic who goes first. Yes, that’s precisely the point.
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    Why can’t you have one-way streets in a rural area? Fork off the main street on one end, merge on the other. Pedestrian and bicycle traffic can be bidirectional, cars can take a little detour they don’t use muscle energy.\n
    \n
    > > Wide enough for one pickup and no opposing traffic, but so narrow that two pickups are going to really have to negotiate to move around each other."\n
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    How does that translate to "block the street for buses? If a street fits two pickups it fits two buses. They’ll have to negotiate to move around each other so if you have many (which, as I told you a lot, you shouldn’t) you should consider a one-way road, or maybe a meeting bay, or a wider street with choke points, or whatever. But it’s not “blocking the road for buses”.
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      EDIT: since apparently a bunch of people woke up with the wrong foot this morning or forgot to check the group they’re in:\n
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          Why can’t you have one-way streets in a rural area? Fork off the main street on one end, merge on the other. Pedestrian and bicycle traffic can be bidirectional, cars can take a little detour they don’t use muscle energy.\n
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          > > Wide enough for one pickup and no opposing traffic, but so narrow that two pickups are going to really have to negotiate to move around each other."\n
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          How does that translate to "block the street for buses? If a street fits two pickups it fits two buses. They’ll have to negotiate to move around each other so if you have many (which, as I told you a lot, you shouldn’t) you should consider a one-way road, or maybe a meeting bay, or a wider street with choke points, or whatever. But it’s not “blocking the road for buses”.
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          > That’s a main road.\n
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          [No it isn’t](https://dictionary.cambridge.org/de/worterbuch/essential-amerikanisches-englisch/main-road):\n
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          > a large road that goes from one town to another:\n
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          And yes you also see residential buildings on main roads. The reason this is a residential and not main road is due to its size and position away from through-traffic. It’s a road where you have a quick look and then just cross, main roads are of the “eh I can look but I probably need to get to a crossing to get across” territory.\n
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          US suburbia has a higher density than the German countryside, having to travel 24km is nuts. That’d be defensible if you live in a tiny settlement 24km from a place with more than two dozen houses – I’m sure those exist in the US but suburbia isn’t that.\n
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          How many pupils were there at your school? My state has 106240 pupils in 393 primary schools, that’s an average of 270. Minimum size under ordinary circumstances is 80, the smallest is on Nordstrandischmoor: An island, 18 inhabitants, five families, one school, one teacher, two students, [here it is](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.5518864,8.8108853,16z?entry=ttu). That’s because we don’t do boarding in primary education so there’s a maximum tolerable commute time/distance, once those kids are old enough they’ll spend Monday through Friday on the mainland.\n
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          If your system insists that a school have at least 2k students or such then, yes, of course, walking to school will be an impossibility for most. Fix your school sizes and like 99% of students will be able to walk or bike, use buses or minivans or whatnot for the rest we do that too (not really possible in Nordstrandischmoor, thing doesn’t even have a ferry but a rail link that’s only usable when the tide is low).\n
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          And no it wasn’t my school it was my Kindergarten, which wasn’t, by a long shot, the closest to home it was the one my parents chose. I mentioned it to say that biking 3.5km is something a 4yold can do, physically, without any issue at all really.
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          > Roads are typically 2 lanes one in each direction. You already know this because you said a solution would be to remove the lane marker.\n
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          I’m someone else.\n
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          > So you have a road with an elementary school, and 2 miles further down is a middle school. Even without that you have buses passing each other during pickup because busses only pickup kids on one side of the street so you don’t have young kids crossing roads.\n
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          Lots of questions here: Why can’t kids walk 500m to the next bus stop? Why are streets so unsafe so that kids can’t cross them?\n
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          Why assume that there’s no larger road in between those smaller roads? Roads generally form a hierarchy, you have big ones feeding into middle ones feeding into small ones. Small ones should absolutely be safe to cross, also without explicit crossings, because they’re traffic calmed and don’t have much traffic in the first place. That’s where houses and schools are, where there’s no through-traffic because even if they aren’t cul de sacs who would drive through a road you can’t drive fast on when there’s a mid-level road that you could take.\n
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          > What do you call a section of inner city bounded on all sides by a road in your country?\n
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          Straßenblock. Let me put it differently: We don’t have grids and nothing is regular. [This is about as grid-y as it gets](https://www.google.com/maps/@53.5753832,9.9851206,1090m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) and if you zoom in you’ll notice that the interior streets have no lane markers and some even are cobbled. Those connect to a street ( south, Hallerstraße) with bike lanes (don’t need those on smaller streets because there’s not enough traffic to warrant them), which connects to a four-lane (plus bus lane) street, Grindelalle, west. The intersection looks a bit crazy but it’s actually safe for pedestrians and you should’ve learned how to cross streets safely and what traffic lights are in Kindergarten. You’ve also been there with your parents (going shopping or whatever) a lot of times, nothing scary really. That kind of density and housing is probably illegal to build where you are (it’s illegal pretty much everywhere in the US and Canada).\n
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          And mind you Hamburg is awful when it comes to urbanism, way too car-centric. Not because of lack of public transport but because politicians are unwilling to kill off car traffic and the whole city is full of rich fucks with too much disposable income.
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          Let me look at a map… maybe 1km max anywhere in my 30k town to the next primary school and that’s when you’re living on the very very edge of town. Should be under 500m for most pupils.\n
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          If you’re living in a rural area, outside of the next village (which will have a school), which is an absolute exception as things tend to cluster into villages in rural areas, it might be 5km. Not really an issue with a bike, I biked what 3.5km to Kindergarten (together with my mom). If you have less density than that you probably should have boarding schools.\n
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          For secondary education, if you’re living in a village you’ll probably have to take the bus to the nearest city. Regular public transport though the schedule will take school times into account. Yes, kids can walk 500m to the nearest station.\n
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          Bonus: All that school density – smaller but way more of them – means that there’s obvious places to hold elections as there’s a municipality-owned place in Sunday stroll distance to pretty much everywhere. The only downside are the ludicrously low tables.
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          > A block in the US doesn’t mean a square either.\n
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          Yes, great, blame a non native speaker for expressing himself incorrectly, correcting himself, and then quadruple down on it. I was thinking of unprioritised NY-style blocks you see all over the place in US cities, gridlock magnets. You know, places where people say “down the block” and generally measure distances in blocks.\n
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          > It is required that children do not cross two lane roads to be picked up by school buses. I don’t make the rules. I don’t have a solution to US car culture. But making roads unpassable by school buses isn’t an answer.\n
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          If you look back at that Hamburg link, at those streets internal to the superblock, you’ll notice that they *are* wide enough for buses to go through. There’s no regular bus lines through there (there’s two metro stations and plenty of bus stops surrounding it) but a school bus isn’t regular service, it doesn’t need to play by the same rules. You can make a pickup at one of those very spacious intersections. It’s not being done because there’s schools in walking distance and German kids can cross roads but it *could* be done. Would you, however, ever speed on those roads.
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          Things aren’t done differently, in principle, in villages. You were the one brining up blocks or did you mean “buildings surrounded by roads *and fields*”.\n
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          [This is Wacken](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.0275469,9.3755654,169m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) (*the* Wacken), I zoomed you in on the primary school. There’s surrounding villages without school so it’s bound to get bus traffic. Note how it’s on a street that’s wide enough for that, but not the main road, the one with all the through-traffic. Can you understand that principle. (Main Roads, actually, Wacken has two, Schenefelder and Hauptstraße).\n
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          > I only took issue with the ridiculous idea that the roads in front of rural US schools could be made safer by making them impassable by busses.\n
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          Noone ever said that? At least I didn’t.
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          > You have one bus going in one direction to a school passing another bus going to another school.\n
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          In front of a school? Are your schools connected directly to highways or something?\n
          \n
          > Have you only lived in an inner city where roads can be one way because they alternate in direction every block?\n
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          We don’t have blocks.
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          > Grundschule Niederstotzingen\n
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          [That’s not on a main road](https://www.google.com/maps/place/Grundschule+Niederstotzingen/@48.5416064,10.2369723,16.33z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x479946d4d21d8af1:0x28d0eb80cb17df7f!8m2!3d48.54188!4d10.23954!16s%2Fg%2F1tgfvlcm?entry=ttu). Zoom out a bit, the main roads are the ones leading to other villages, named after those villages (or in the case of Ulm a city in that direction).\n
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          > Grundschule Pfaffenhofen\n
          \n
          [neither](https://www.google.com/maps/place/Grundschule+Pfaffenhofen/@49.0620402,8.9749824,16.67z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x410b8f8ce5cb2efb:0x31c87e2000d06919!8m2!3d49.06201!4d8.97686!16s%2Fg%2F1tdqmls_?entry=ttu)\n
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          Didn’t check the rest\n
          \n
          > Just like US schools, many have their own driveway that goes off the main road\n
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          Those are residential roads. [This a view of the Niederstotzingen school from the road it’s on](https://www.google.com/maps/@48.542406,10.2389314,3a,60y,119.92h,81.99t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sW-TbbzDmkVz_-XMnR0tqYg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu), the gymnasium is on the other side. Look up and down the road, there’s residential buildings there. Looking at the signage (or rather lack thereof), it’s two-way. No lane markings though small roads just don’t have them, you slow down and make sure to not shear off your side mirrors with the side mirrors of oncoming traffic. The little shack with a sign with an H is a bus stop. Only seems to be served by one bus line (at least I can’t find more), [here’s the schelude](https://www.ding.eu/fileadmin/content/downloads/ics/20230421-DING-EVG-Streik-RAB-Bus/593-Streik-RAB-Fahrten.pdf). It connects to two train stations (including thie Niederstotzingen one) roughly every 30 minutes. Frankly speaking you can walk from there you’ll be faster than waiting for the next bus.\n
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          Niederstotzingen is classed as a city btw, almost 5k inhabitants. It’s not really a size thing in Germany though and nowadays the title doesn’t have any legal meaning, city rights were granted by Kaiser Sigismund in 1430, meaning it served as the local trade hub or such. Congratulations, thanks to wikipedia I know now more about a tiny city I don’t care about in a state I don’t care for :)
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          > Cost. That separate road means buying land from someone and turning it into road. Do they have one way roads for rural schools in Germany? Because I looked at a few Grundschule in Bavaria on Google maps and didn’t see any.\n
          \n
          You’ll have a hard time finding a village with *literally* one single road. Certainly not one 1-2k which is the size that gets the school for the surrounding ones.\n
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          > It is cheaper and more convenient to have a speed camera that is active only during school hours.\n
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          And also completely ineffective at preventing anything.Heck at least use road bumps. Narrow the road only in spots so that two monster trucks if you please fit on comfortably side by side for 50-100m or such, but then it narrows down to half that for just 5m. While you’re at it build a crossing there, narrowing the roads at pedestrian crossing is standard practice in many places and it makes a hell a lot of sense. Yes, that slows down traffic because you might have to negotiate with oncoming traffic who goes first. Yes, that’s precisely the point.
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    > Schools have more than one bus and they have to pass each other.\n
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    No they don’t they can enter from the same side. You’re just looking for excuses. Also why do you need buses in the first place why aren’t the kids walking or biking.
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      EDIT: since apparently a bunch of people woke up with the wrong foot this morning or forgot to check the group they’re in:\n
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      If you’re addicted to crack or any other drugs, please seek professional help.
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          Why can’t you have one-way streets in a rural area? Fork off the main street on one end, merge on the other. Pedestrian and bicycle traffic can be bidirectional, cars can take a little detour they don’t use muscle energy.\n
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          > > Wide enough for one pickup and no opposing traffic, but so narrow that two pickups are going to really have to negotiate to move around each other."\n
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          How does that translate to "block the street for buses? If a street fits two pickups it fits two buses. They’ll have to negotiate to move around each other so if you have many (which, as I told you a lot, you shouldn’t) you should consider a one-way road, or maybe a meeting bay, or a wider street with choke points, or whatever. But it’s not “blocking the road for buses”.
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          > That’s a main road.\n
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          [No it isn’t](https://dictionary.cambridge.org/de/worterbuch/essential-amerikanisches-englisch/main-road):\n
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          > a large road that goes from one town to another:\n
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          And yes you also see residential buildings on main roads. The reason this is a residential and not main road is due to its size and position away from through-traffic. It’s a road where you have a quick look and then just cross, main roads are of the “eh I can look but I probably need to get to a crossing to get across” territory.\n
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          And no there’s no speed bumps why would there if the road is narrow enough and people naturally drive slow enough, there’s no through traffic, the residents don’t race on it, etc.
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          US suburbia has a higher density than the German countryside, having to travel 24km is nuts. That’d be defensible if you live in a tiny settlement 24km from a place with more than two dozen houses – I’m sure those exist in the US but suburbia isn’t that.\n
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          How many pupils were there at your school? My state has 106240 pupils in 393 primary schools, that’s an average of 270. Minimum size under ordinary circumstances is 80, the smallest is on Nordstrandischmoor: An island, 18 inhabitants, five families, one school, one teacher, two students, [here it is](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.5518864,8.8108853,16z?entry=ttu). That’s because we don’t do boarding in primary education so there’s a maximum tolerable commute time/distance, once those kids are old enough they’ll spend Monday through Friday on the mainland.\n
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          And no it wasn’t my school it was my Kindergarten, which wasn’t, by a long shot, the closest to home it was the one my parents chose. I mentioned it to say that biking 3.5km is something a 4yold can do, physically, without any issue at all really.
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          > Roads are typically 2 lanes one in each direction. You already know this because you said a solution would be to remove the lane marker.\n
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          I’m someone else.\n
          \n
          > So you have a road with an elementary school, and 2 miles further down is a middle school. Even without that you have buses passing each other during pickup because busses only pickup kids on one side of the street so you don’t have young kids crossing roads.\n
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          Lots of questions here: Why can’t kids walk 500m to the next bus stop? Why are streets so unsafe so that kids can’t cross them?\n
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          Why assume that there’s no larger road in between those smaller roads? Roads generally form a hierarchy, you have big ones feeding into middle ones feeding into small ones. Small ones should absolutely be safe to cross, also without explicit crossings, because they’re traffic calmed and don’t have much traffic in the first place. That’s where houses and schools are, where there’s no through-traffic because even if they aren’t cul de sacs who would drive through a road you can’t drive fast on when there’s a mid-level road that you could take.\n
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          > What do you call a section of inner city bounded on all sides by a road in your country?\n
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          Straßenblock. Let me put it differently: We don’t have grids and nothing is regular. [This is about as grid-y as it gets](https://www.google.com/maps/@53.5753832,9.9851206,1090m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) and if you zoom in you’ll notice that the interior streets have no lane markers and some even are cobbled. Those connect to a street ( south, Hallerstraße) with bike lanes (don’t need those on smaller streets because there’s not enough traffic to warrant them), which connects to a four-lane (plus bus lane) street, Grindelalle, west. The intersection looks a bit crazy but it’s actually safe for pedestrians and you should’ve learned how to cross streets safely and what traffic lights are in Kindergarten. You’ve also been there with your parents (going shopping or whatever) a lot of times, nothing scary really. That kind of density and housing is probably illegal to build where you are (it’s illegal pretty much everywhere in the US and Canada).\n
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          And mind you Hamburg is awful when it comes to urbanism, way too car-centric. Not because of lack of public transport but because politicians are unwilling to kill off car traffic and the whole city is full of rich fucks with too much disposable income.
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          Let me look at a map… maybe 1km max anywhere in my 30k town to the next primary school and that’s when you’re living on the very very edge of town. Should be under 500m for most pupils.\n
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          If you’re living in a rural area, outside of the next village (which will have a school), which is an absolute exception as things tend to cluster into villages in rural areas, it might be 5km. Not really an issue with a bike, I biked what 3.5km to Kindergarten (together with my mom). If you have less density than that you probably should have boarding schools.\n
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          For secondary education, if you’re living in a village you’ll probably have to take the bus to the nearest city. Regular public transport though the schedule will take school times into account. Yes, kids can walk 500m to the nearest station.\n
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          Bonus: All that school density – smaller but way more of them – means that there’s obvious places to hold elections as there’s a municipality-owned place in Sunday stroll distance to pretty much everywhere. The only downside are the ludicrously low tables.
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          > A block in the US doesn’t mean a square either.\n
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          Yes, great, blame a non native speaker for expressing himself incorrectly, correcting himself, and then quadruple down on it. I was thinking of unprioritised NY-style blocks you see all over the place in US cities, gridlock magnets. You know, places where people say “down the block” and generally measure distances in blocks.\n
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          > It is required that children do not cross two lane roads to be picked up by school buses. I don’t make the rules. I don’t have a solution to US car culture. But making roads unpassable by school buses isn’t an answer.\n
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          If you look back at that Hamburg link, at those streets internal to the superblock, you’ll notice that they *are* wide enough for buses to go through. There’s no regular bus lines through there (there’s two metro stations and plenty of bus stops surrounding it) but a school bus isn’t regular service, it doesn’t need to play by the same rules. You can make a pickup at one of those very spacious intersections. It’s not being done because there’s schools in walking distance and German kids can cross roads but it *could* be done. Would you, however, ever speed on those roads.
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          Things aren’t done differently, in principle, in villages. You were the one brining up blocks or did you mean “buildings surrounded by roads *and fields*”.\n
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          [This is Wacken](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.0275469,9.3755654,169m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) (*the* Wacken), I zoomed you in on the primary school. There’s surrounding villages without school so it’s bound to get bus traffic. Note how it’s on a street that’s wide enough for that, but not the main road, the one with all the through-traffic. Can you understand that principle. (Main Roads, actually, Wacken has two, Schenefelder and Hauptstraße).\n
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          > I only took issue with the ridiculous idea that the roads in front of rural US schools could be made safer by making them impassable by busses.\n
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          Noone ever said that? At least I didn’t.
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          > You have one bus going in one direction to a school passing another bus going to another school.\n
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          In front of a school? Are your schools connected directly to highways or something?\n
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          > Have you only lived in an inner city where roads can be one way because they alternate in direction every block?\n
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          We don’t have blocks.
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          > Grundschule Niederstotzingen\n
          \n
          [That’s not on a main road](https://www.google.com/maps/place/Grundschule+Niederstotzingen/@48.5416064,10.2369723,16.33z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x479946d4d21d8af1:0x28d0eb80cb17df7f!8m2!3d48.54188!4d10.23954!16s%2Fg%2F1tgfvlcm?entry=ttu). Zoom out a bit, the main roads are the ones leading to other villages, named after those villages (or in the case of Ulm a city in that direction).\n
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          > Grundschule Pfaffenhofen\n
          \n
          [neither](https://www.google.com/maps/place/Grundschule+Pfaffenhofen/@49.0620402,8.9749824,16.67z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x410b8f8ce5cb2efb:0x31c87e2000d06919!8m2!3d49.06201!4d8.97686!16s%2Fg%2F1tdqmls_?entry=ttu)\n
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          Didn’t check the rest\n
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          > Just like US schools, many have their own driveway that goes off the main road\n
          \n
          Those are residential roads. [This a view of the Niederstotzingen school from the road it’s on](https://www.google.com/maps/@48.542406,10.2389314,3a,60y,119.92h,81.99t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sW-TbbzDmkVz_-XMnR0tqYg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu), the gymnasium is on the other side. Look up and down the road, there’s residential buildings there. Looking at the signage (or rather lack thereof), it’s two-way. No lane markings though small roads just don’t have them, you slow down and make sure to not shear off your side mirrors with the side mirrors of oncoming traffic. The little shack with a sign with an H is a bus stop. Only seems to be served by one bus line (at least I can’t find more), [here’s the schelude](https://www.ding.eu/fileadmin/content/downloads/ics/20230421-DING-EVG-Streik-RAB-Bus/593-Streik-RAB-Fahrten.pdf). It connects to two train stations (including thie Niederstotzingen one) roughly every 30 minutes. Frankly speaking you can walk from there you’ll be faster than waiting for the next bus.\n
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          Niederstotzingen is classed as a city btw, almost 5k inhabitants. It’s not really a size thing in Germany though and nowadays the title doesn’t have any legal meaning, city rights were granted by Kaiser Sigismund in 1430, meaning it served as the local trade hub or such. Congratulations, thanks to wikipedia I know now more about a tiny city I don’t care about in a state I don’t care for :)
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          > Cost. That separate road means buying land from someone and turning it into road. Do they have one way roads for rural schools in Germany? Because I looked at a few Grundschule in Bavaria on Google maps and didn’t see any.\n
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          You’ll have a hard time finding a village with *literally* one single road. Certainly not one 1-2k which is the size that gets the school for the surrounding ones.\n
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          And also completely ineffective at preventing anything.Heck at least use road bumps. Narrow the road only in spots so that two monster trucks if you please fit on comfortably side by side for 50-100m or such, but then it narrows down to half that for just 5m. While you’re at it build a crossing there, narrowing the roads at pedestrian crossing is standard practice in many places and it makes a hell a lot of sense. Yes, that slows down traffic because you might have to negotiate with oncoming traffic who goes first. Yes, that’s precisely the point.
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    > Schools have more than one bus and they have to pass each other.\n
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    No they don’t they can enter from the same side. You’re just looking for excuses. Also why do you need buses in the first place why aren’t the kids walking or biking.
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          Why can’t you have one-way streets in a rural area? Fork off the main street on one end, merge on the other. Pedestrian and bicycle traffic can be bidirectional, cars can take a little detour they don’t use muscle energy.\n
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          How does that translate to "block the street for buses? If a street fits two pickups it fits two buses. They’ll have to negotiate to move around each other so if you have many (which, as I told you a lot, you shouldn’t) you should consider a one-way road, or maybe a meeting bay, or a wider street with choke points, or whatever. But it’s not “blocking the road for buses”.
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          > That’s a main road.\n
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          > a large road that goes from one town to another:\n
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          US suburbia has a higher density than the German countryside, having to travel 24km is nuts. That’d be defensible if you live in a tiny settlement 24km from a place with more than two dozen houses – I’m sure those exist in the US but suburbia isn’t that.\n
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          How many pupils were there at your school? My state has 106240 pupils in 393 primary schools, that’s an average of 270. Minimum size under ordinary circumstances is 80, the smallest is on Nordstrandischmoor: An island, 18 inhabitants, five families, one school, one teacher, two students, [here it is](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.5518864,8.8108853,16z?entry=ttu). That’s because we don’t do boarding in primary education so there’s a maximum tolerable commute time/distance, once those kids are old enough they’ll spend Monday through Friday on the mainland.\n
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          If your system insists that a school have at least 2k students or such then, yes, of course, walking to school will be an impossibility for most. Fix your school sizes and like 99% of students will be able to walk or bike, use buses or minivans or whatnot for the rest we do that too (not really possible in Nordstrandischmoor, thing doesn’t even have a ferry but a rail link that’s only usable when the tide is low).\n
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          And no it wasn’t my school it was my Kindergarten, which wasn’t, by a long shot, the closest to home it was the one my parents chose. I mentioned it to say that biking 3.5km is something a 4yold can do, physically, without any issue at all really.
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          > Roads are typically 2 lanes one in each direction. You already know this because you said a solution would be to remove the lane marker.\n
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          I’m someone else.\n
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          > So you have a road with an elementary school, and 2 miles further down is a middle school. Even without that you have buses passing each other during pickup because busses only pickup kids on one side of the street so you don’t have young kids crossing roads.\n
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          Lots of questions here: Why can’t kids walk 500m to the next bus stop? Why are streets so unsafe so that kids can’t cross them?\n
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          Why assume that there’s no larger road in between those smaller roads? Roads generally form a hierarchy, you have big ones feeding into middle ones feeding into small ones. Small ones should absolutely be safe to cross, also without explicit crossings, because they’re traffic calmed and don’t have much traffic in the first place. That’s where houses and schools are, where there’s no through-traffic because even if they aren’t cul de sacs who would drive through a road you can’t drive fast on when there’s a mid-level road that you could take.\n
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          > What do you call a section of inner city bounded on all sides by a road in your country?\n
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          Straßenblock. Let me put it differently: We don’t have grids and nothing is regular. [This is about as grid-y as it gets](https://www.google.com/maps/@53.5753832,9.9851206,1090m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) and if you zoom in you’ll notice that the interior streets have no lane markers and some even are cobbled. Those connect to a street ( south, Hallerstraße) with bike lanes (don’t need those on smaller streets because there’s not enough traffic to warrant them), which connects to a four-lane (plus bus lane) street, Grindelalle, west. The intersection looks a bit crazy but it’s actually safe for pedestrians and you should’ve learned how to cross streets safely and what traffic lights are in Kindergarten. You’ve also been there with your parents (going shopping or whatever) a lot of times, nothing scary really. That kind of density and housing is probably illegal to build where you are (it’s illegal pretty much everywhere in the US and Canada).\n
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          And mind you Hamburg is awful when it comes to urbanism, way too car-centric. Not because of lack of public transport but because politicians are unwilling to kill off car traffic and the whole city is full of rich fucks with too much disposable income.
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          Let me look at a map… maybe 1km max anywhere in my 30k town to the next primary school and that’s when you’re living on the very very edge of town. Should be under 500m for most pupils.\n
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          If you’re living in a rural area, outside of the next village (which will have a school), which is an absolute exception as things tend to cluster into villages in rural areas, it might be 5km. Not really an issue with a bike, I biked what 3.5km to Kindergarten (together with my mom). If you have less density than that you probably should have boarding schools.\n
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          For secondary education, if you’re living in a village you’ll probably have to take the bus to the nearest city. Regular public transport though the schedule will take school times into account. Yes, kids can walk 500m to the nearest station.\n
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          Bonus: All that school density – smaller but way more of them – means that there’s obvious places to hold elections as there’s a municipality-owned place in Sunday stroll distance to pretty much everywhere. The only downside are the ludicrously low tables.
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          > A block in the US doesn’t mean a square either.\n
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          Yes, great, blame a non native speaker for expressing himself incorrectly, correcting himself, and then quadruple down on it. I was thinking of unprioritised NY-style blocks you see all over the place in US cities, gridlock magnets. You know, places where people say “down the block” and generally measure distances in blocks.\n
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          > It is required that children do not cross two lane roads to be picked up by school buses. I don’t make the rules. I don’t have a solution to US car culture. But making roads unpassable by school buses isn’t an answer.\n
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          If you look back at that Hamburg link, at those streets internal to the superblock, you’ll notice that they *are* wide enough for buses to go through. There’s no regular bus lines through there (there’s two metro stations and plenty of bus stops surrounding it) but a school bus isn’t regular service, it doesn’t need to play by the same rules. You can make a pickup at one of those very spacious intersections. It’s not being done because there’s schools in walking distance and German kids can cross roads but it *could* be done. Would you, however, ever speed on those roads.
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          Things aren’t done differently, in principle, in villages. You were the one brining up blocks or did you mean “buildings surrounded by roads *and fields*”.\n
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          [This is Wacken](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.0275469,9.3755654,169m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) (*the* Wacken), I zoomed you in on the primary school. There’s surrounding villages without school so it’s bound to get bus traffic. Note how it’s on a street that’s wide enough for that, but not the main road, the one with all the through-traffic. Can you understand that principle. (Main Roads, actually, Wacken has two, Schenefelder and Hauptstraße).\n
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          > I only took issue with the ridiculous idea that the roads in front of rural US schools could be made safer by making them impassable by busses.\n
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          Noone ever said that? At least I didn’t.
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          > You have one bus going in one direction to a school passing another bus going to another school.\n
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          In front of a school? Are your schools connected directly to highways or something?\n
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          > Have you only lived in an inner city where roads can be one way because they alternate in direction every block?\n
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          We don’t have blocks.
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          > Grundschule Niederstotzingen\n
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          [That’s not on a main road](https://www.google.com/maps/place/Grundschule+Niederstotzingen/@48.5416064,10.2369723,16.33z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x479946d4d21d8af1:0x28d0eb80cb17df7f!8m2!3d48.54188!4d10.23954!16s%2Fg%2F1tgfvlcm?entry=ttu). Zoom out a bit, the main roads are the ones leading to other villages, named after those villages (or in the case of Ulm a city in that direction).\n
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          > Grundschule Pfaffenhofen\n
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          [neither](https://www.google.com/maps/place/Grundschule+Pfaffenhofen/@49.0620402,8.9749824,16.67z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x410b8f8ce5cb2efb:0x31c87e2000d06919!8m2!3d49.06201!4d8.97686!16s%2Fg%2F1tdqmls_?entry=ttu)\n
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          Didn’t check the rest\n
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          > Just like US schools, many have their own driveway that goes off the main road\n
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          Those are residential roads. [This a view of the Niederstotzingen school from the road it’s on](https://www.google.com/maps/@48.542406,10.2389314,3a,60y,119.92h,81.99t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sW-TbbzDmkVz_-XMnR0tqYg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu), the gymnasium is on the other side. Look up and down the road, there’s residential buildings there. Looking at the signage (or rather lack thereof), it’s two-way. No lane markings though small roads just don’t have them, you slow down and make sure to not shear off your side mirrors with the side mirrors of oncoming traffic. The little shack with a sign with an H is a bus stop. Only seems to be served by one bus line (at least I can’t find more), [here’s the schelude](https://www.ding.eu/fileadmin/content/downloads/ics/20230421-DING-EVG-Streik-RAB-Bus/593-Streik-RAB-Fahrten.pdf). It connects to two train stations (including thie Niederstotzingen one) roughly every 30 minutes. Frankly speaking you can walk from there you’ll be faster than waiting for the next bus.\n
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          Niederstotzingen is classed as a city btw, almost 5k inhabitants. It’s not really a size thing in Germany though and nowadays the title doesn’t have any legal meaning, city rights were granted by Kaiser Sigismund in 1430, meaning it served as the local trade hub or such. Congratulations, thanks to wikipedia I know now more about a tiny city I don’t care about in a state I don’t care for :)
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          > Cost. That separate road means buying land from someone and turning it into road. Do they have one way roads for rural schools in Germany? Because I looked at a few Grundschule in Bavaria on Google maps and didn’t see any.\n
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          You’ll have a hard time finding a village with *literally* one single road. Certainly not one 1-2k which is the size that gets the school for the surrounding ones.\n
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          And also completely ineffective at preventing anything.Heck at least use road bumps. Narrow the road only in spots so that two monster trucks if you please fit on comfortably side by side for 50-100m or such, but then it narrows down to half that for just 5m. While you’re at it build a crossing there, narrowing the roads at pedestrian crossing is standard practice in many places and it makes a hell a lot of sense. Yes, that slows down traffic because you might have to negotiate with oncoming traffic who goes first. Yes, that’s precisely the point.
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          Why can’t you have one-way streets in a rural area? Fork off the main street on one end, merge on the other. Pedestrian and bicycle traffic can be bidirectional, cars can take a little detour they don’t use muscle energy.\n
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          > > Wide enough for one pickup and no opposing traffic, but so narrow that two pickups are going to really have to negotiate to move around each other."\n
          \n
          How does that translate to "block the street for buses? If a street fits two pickups it fits two buses. They’ll have to negotiate to move around each other so if you have many (which, as I told you a lot, you shouldn’t) you should consider a one-way road, or maybe a meeting bay, or a wider street with choke points, or whatever. But it’s not “blocking the road for buses”.
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          > Schools have more than one bus and they have to pass each other.\n
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          No they don’t they can enter from the same side. You’re just looking for excuses. Also why do you need buses in the first place why aren’t the kids walking or biking.
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          US suburbia has a higher density than the German countryside, having to travel 24km is nuts. That’d be defensible if you live in a tiny settlement 24km from a place with more than two dozen houses – I’m sure those exist in the US but suburbia isn’t that.\n
          \n
          How many pupils were there at your school? My state has 106240 pupils in 393 primary schools, that’s an average of 270. Minimum size under ordinary circumstances is 80, the smallest is on Nordstrandischmoor: An island, 18 inhabitants, five families, one school, one teacher, two students, [here it is](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.5518864,8.8108853,16z?entry=ttu). That’s because we don’t do boarding in primary education so there’s a maximum tolerable commute time/distance, once those kids are old enough they’ll spend Monday through Friday on the mainland.\n
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          If your system insists that a school have at least 2k students or such then, yes, of course, walking to school will be an impossibility for most. Fix your school sizes and like 99% of students will be able to walk or bike, use buses or minivans or whatnot for the rest we do that too (not really possible in Nordstrandischmoor, thing doesn’t even have a ferry but a rail link that’s only usable when the tide is low).\n
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          And no it wasn’t my school it was my Kindergarten, which wasn’t, by a long shot, the closest to home it was the one my parents chose. I mentioned it to say that biking 3.5km is something a 4yold can do, physically, without any issue at all really.
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          > Roads are typically 2 lanes one in each direction. You already know this because you said a solution would be to remove the lane marker.\n
          \n
          I’m someone else.\n
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          > So you have a road with an elementary school, and 2 miles further down is a middle school. Even without that you have buses passing each other during pickup because busses only pickup kids on one side of the street so you don’t have young kids crossing roads.\n
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          Lots of questions here: Why can’t kids walk 500m to the next bus stop? Why are streets so unsafe so that kids can’t cross them?\n
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          Why assume that there’s no larger road in between those smaller roads? Roads generally form a hierarchy, you have big ones feeding into middle ones feeding into small ones. Small ones should absolutely be safe to cross, also without explicit crossings, because they’re traffic calmed and don’t have much traffic in the first place. That’s where houses and schools are, where there’s no through-traffic because even if they aren’t cul de sacs who would drive through a road you can’t drive fast on when there’s a mid-level road that you could take.\n
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          > What do you call a section of inner city bounded on all sides by a road in your country?\n
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          Straßenblock. Let me put it differently: We don’t have grids and nothing is regular. [This is about as grid-y as it gets](https://www.google.com/maps/@53.5753832,9.9851206,1090m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) and if you zoom in you’ll notice that the interior streets have no lane markers and some even are cobbled. Those connect to a street ( south, Hallerstraße) with bike lanes (don’t need those on smaller streets because there’s not enough traffic to warrant them), which connects to a four-lane (plus bus lane) street, Grindelalle, west. The intersection looks a bit crazy but it’s actually safe for pedestrians and you should’ve learned how to cross streets safely and what traffic lights are in Kindergarten. You’ve also been there with your parents (going shopping or whatever) a lot of times, nothing scary really. That kind of density and housing is probably illegal to build where you are (it’s illegal pretty much everywhere in the US and Canada).\n
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          And mind you Hamburg is awful when it comes to urbanism, way too car-centric. Not because of lack of public transport but because politicians are unwilling to kill off car traffic and the whole city is full of rich fucks with too much disposable income.
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          Let me look at a map… maybe 1km max anywhere in my 30k town to the next primary school and that’s when you’re living on the very very edge of town. Should be under 500m for most pupils.\n
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          If you’re living in a rural area, outside of the next village (which will have a school), which is an absolute exception as things tend to cluster into villages in rural areas, it might be 5km. Not really an issue with a bike, I biked what 3.5km to Kindergarten (together with my mom). If you have less density than that you probably should have boarding schools.\n
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          For secondary education, if you’re living in a village you’ll probably have to take the bus to the nearest city. Regular public transport though the schedule will take school times into account. Yes, kids can walk 500m to the nearest station.\n
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          Bonus: All that school density – smaller but way more of them – means that there’s obvious places to hold elections as there’s a municipality-owned place in Sunday stroll distance to pretty much everywhere. The only downside are the ludicrously low tables.
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          > A block in the US doesn’t mean a square either.\n
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          Yes, great, blame a non native speaker for expressing himself incorrectly, correcting himself, and then quadruple down on it. I was thinking of unprioritised NY-style blocks you see all over the place in US cities, gridlock magnets. You know, places where people say “down the block” and generally measure distances in blocks.\n
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          > It is required that children do not cross two lane roads to be picked up by school buses. I don’t make the rules. I don’t have a solution to US car culture. But making roads unpassable by school buses isn’t an answer.\n
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          If you look back at that Hamburg link, at those streets internal to the superblock, you’ll notice that they *are* wide enough for buses to go through. There’s no regular bus lines through there (there’s two metro stations and plenty of bus stops surrounding it) but a school bus isn’t regular service, it doesn’t need to play by the same rules. You can make a pickup at one of those very spacious intersections. It’s not being done because there’s schools in walking distance and German kids can cross roads but it *could* be done. Would you, however, ever speed on those roads.
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          Things aren’t done differently, in principle, in villages. You were the one brining up blocks or did you mean “buildings surrounded by roads *and fields*”.\n
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          [This is Wacken](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.0275469,9.3755654,169m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) (*the* Wacken), I zoomed you in on the primary school. There’s surrounding villages without school so it’s bound to get bus traffic. Note how it’s on a street that’s wide enough for that, but not the main road, the one with all the through-traffic. Can you understand that principle. (Main Roads, actually, Wacken has two, Schenefelder and Hauptstraße).\n
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          > I only took issue with the ridiculous idea that the roads in front of rural US schools could be made safer by making them impassable by busses.\n
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          Noone ever said that? At least I didn’t.
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          > You have one bus going in one direction to a school passing another bus going to another school.\n
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          In front of a school? Are your schools connected directly to highways or something?\n
          \n
          > Have you only lived in an inner city where roads can be one way because they alternate in direction every block?\n
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          We don’t have blocks.
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          > Grundschule Niederstotzingen\n
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          [That’s not on a main road](https://www.google.com/maps/place/Grundschule+Niederstotzingen/@48.5416064,10.2369723,16.33z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x479946d4d21d8af1:0x28d0eb80cb17df7f!8m2!3d48.54188!4d10.23954!16s%2Fg%2F1tgfvlcm?entry=ttu). Zoom out a bit, the main roads are the ones leading to other villages, named after those villages (or in the case of Ulm a city in that direction).\n
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          > Grundschule Pfaffenhofen\n
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          [neither](https://www.google.com/maps/place/Grundschule+Pfaffenhofen/@49.0620402,8.9749824,16.67z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x410b8f8ce5cb2efb:0x31c87e2000d06919!8m2!3d49.06201!4d8.97686!16s%2Fg%2F1tdqmls_?entry=ttu)\n
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          Didn’t check the rest\n
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          > Just like US schools, many have their own driveway that goes off the main road\n
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          Those are residential roads. [This a view of the Niederstotzingen school from the road it’s on](https://www.google.com/maps/@48.542406,10.2389314,3a,60y,119.92h,81.99t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sW-TbbzDmkVz_-XMnR0tqYg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu), the gymnasium is on the other side. Look up and down the road, there’s residential buildings there. Looking at the signage (or rather lack thereof), it’s two-way. No lane markings though small roads just don’t have them, you slow down and make sure to not shear off your side mirrors with the side mirrors of oncoming traffic. The little shack with a sign with an H is a bus stop. Only seems to be served by one bus line (at least I can’t find more), [here’s the schelude](https://www.ding.eu/fileadmin/content/downloads/ics/20230421-DING-EVG-Streik-RAB-Bus/593-Streik-RAB-Fahrten.pdf). It connects to two train stations (including thie Niederstotzingen one) roughly every 30 minutes. Frankly speaking you can walk from there you’ll be faster than waiting for the next bus.\n
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          Niederstotzingen is classed as a city btw, almost 5k inhabitants. It’s not really a size thing in Germany though and nowadays the title doesn’t have any legal meaning, city rights were granted by Kaiser Sigismund in 1430, meaning it served as the local trade hub or such. Congratulations, thanks to wikipedia I know now more about a tiny city I don’t care about in a state I don’t care for :)
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          > Cost. That separate road means buying land from someone and turning it into road. Do they have one way roads for rural schools in Germany? Because I looked at a few Grundschule in Bavaria on Google maps and didn’t see any.\n
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          You’ll have a hard time finding a village with *literally* one single road. Certainly not one 1-2k which is the size that gets the school for the surrounding ones.\n
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          > It is cheaper and more convenient to have a speed camera that is active only during school hours.\n
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          And also completely ineffective at preventing anything.Heck at least use road bumps. Narrow the road only in spots so that two monster trucks if you please fit on comfortably side by side for 50-100m or such, but then it narrows down to half that for just 5m. While you’re at it build a crossing there, narrowing the roads at pedestrian crossing is standard practice in many places and it makes a hell a lot of sense. Yes, that slows down traffic because you might have to negotiate with oncoming traffic who goes first. Yes, that’s precisely the point.
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    > That’s a main road.\n
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    [No it isn’t](https://dictionary.cambridge.org/de/worterbuch/essential-amerikanisches-englisch/main-road):\n
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    > a large road that goes from one town to another:\n
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    And yes you also see residential buildings on main roads. The reason this is a residential and not main road is due to its size and position away from through-traffic. It’s a road where you have a quick look and then just cross, main roads are of the “eh I can look but I probably need to get to a crossing to get across” territory.\n
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    And no there’s no speed bumps why would there if the road is narrow enough and people naturally drive slow enough, there’s no through traffic, the residents don’t race on it, etc.
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      EDIT: since apparently a bunch of people woke up with the wrong foot this morning or forgot to check the group they’re in:\n
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      This is a joke. Do not steal or vandalize speed enforcement cameras (or anything else for that matter). That’s against the law and you will likely get arrested.\n
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      If you’re addicted to crack or any other drugs, please seek professional help.
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          Why can’t you have one-way streets in a rural area? Fork off the main street on one end, merge on the other. Pedestrian and bicycle traffic can be bidirectional, cars can take a little detour they don’t use muscle energy.\n
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          > > Wide enough for one pickup and no opposing traffic, but so narrow that two pickups are going to really have to negotiate to move around each other."\n
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          How does that translate to "block the street for buses? If a street fits two pickups it fits two buses. They’ll have to negotiate to move around each other so if you have many (which, as I told you a lot, you shouldn’t) you should consider a one-way road, or maybe a meeting bay, or a wider street with choke points, or whatever. But it’s not “blocking the road for buses”.
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          > Schools have more than one bus and they have to pass each other.\n
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          No they don’t they can enter from the same side. You’re just looking for excuses. Also why do you need buses in the first place why aren’t the kids walking or biking.
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          US suburbia has a higher density than the German countryside, having to travel 24km is nuts. That’d be defensible if you live in a tiny settlement 24km from a place with more than two dozen houses – I’m sure those exist in the US but suburbia isn’t that.\n
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          How many pupils were there at your school? My state has 106240 pupils in 393 primary schools, that’s an average of 270. Minimum size under ordinary circumstances is 80, the smallest is on Nordstrandischmoor: An island, 18 inhabitants, five families, one school, one teacher, two students, [here it is](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.5518864,8.8108853,16z?entry=ttu). That’s because we don’t do boarding in primary education so there’s a maximum tolerable commute time/distance, once those kids are old enough they’ll spend Monday through Friday on the mainland.\n
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          If your system insists that a school have at least 2k students or such then, yes, of course, walking to school will be an impossibility for most. Fix your school sizes and like 99% of students will be able to walk or bike, use buses or minivans or whatnot for the rest we do that too (not really possible in Nordstrandischmoor, thing doesn’t even have a ferry but a rail link that’s only usable when the tide is low).\n
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          And no it wasn’t my school it was my Kindergarten, which wasn’t, by a long shot, the closest to home it was the one my parents chose. I mentioned it to say that biking 3.5km is something a 4yold can do, physically, without any issue at all really.
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          > Roads are typically 2 lanes one in each direction. You already know this because you said a solution would be to remove the lane marker.\n
          \n
          I’m someone else.\n
          \n
          > So you have a road with an elementary school, and 2 miles further down is a middle school. Even without that you have buses passing each other during pickup because busses only pickup kids on one side of the street so you don’t have young kids crossing roads.\n
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          Lots of questions here: Why can’t kids walk 500m to the next bus stop? Why are streets so unsafe so that kids can’t cross them?\n
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          Why assume that there’s no larger road in between those smaller roads? Roads generally form a hierarchy, you have big ones feeding into middle ones feeding into small ones. Small ones should absolutely be safe to cross, also without explicit crossings, because they’re traffic calmed and don’t have much traffic in the first place. That’s where houses and schools are, where there’s no through-traffic because even if they aren’t cul de sacs who would drive through a road you can’t drive fast on when there’s a mid-level road that you could take.\n
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          > What do you call a section of inner city bounded on all sides by a road in your country?\n
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          Straßenblock. Let me put it differently: We don’t have grids and nothing is regular. [This is about as grid-y as it gets](https://www.google.com/maps/@53.5753832,9.9851206,1090m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) and if you zoom in you’ll notice that the interior streets have no lane markers and some even are cobbled. Those connect to a street ( south, Hallerstraße) with bike lanes (don’t need those on smaller streets because there’s not enough traffic to warrant them), which connects to a four-lane (plus bus lane) street, Grindelalle, west. The intersection looks a bit crazy but it’s actually safe for pedestrians and you should’ve learned how to cross streets safely and what traffic lights are in Kindergarten. You’ve also been there with your parents (going shopping or whatever) a lot of times, nothing scary really. That kind of density and housing is probably illegal to build where you are (it’s illegal pretty much everywhere in the US and Canada).\n
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          And mind you Hamburg is awful when it comes to urbanism, way too car-centric. Not because of lack of public transport but because politicians are unwilling to kill off car traffic and the whole city is full of rich fucks with too much disposable income.
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          Let me look at a map… maybe 1km max anywhere in my 30k town to the next primary school and that’s when you’re living on the very very edge of town. Should be under 500m for most pupils.\n
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          If you’re living in a rural area, outside of the next village (which will have a school), which is an absolute exception as things tend to cluster into villages in rural areas, it might be 5km. Not really an issue with a bike, I biked what 3.5km to Kindergarten (together with my mom). If you have less density than that you probably should have boarding schools.\n
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          For secondary education, if you’re living in a village you’ll probably have to take the bus to the nearest city. Regular public transport though the schedule will take school times into account. Yes, kids can walk 500m to the nearest station.\n
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          Bonus: All that school density – smaller but way more of them – means that there’s obvious places to hold elections as there’s a municipality-owned place in Sunday stroll distance to pretty much everywhere. The only downside are the ludicrously low tables.
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          > A block in the US doesn’t mean a square either.\n
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          Yes, great, blame a non native speaker for expressing himself incorrectly, correcting himself, and then quadruple down on it. I was thinking of unprioritised NY-style blocks you see all over the place in US cities, gridlock magnets. You know, places where people say “down the block” and generally measure distances in blocks.\n
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          > It is required that children do not cross two lane roads to be picked up by school buses. I don’t make the rules. I don’t have a solution to US car culture. But making roads unpassable by school buses isn’t an answer.\n
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          If you look back at that Hamburg link, at those streets internal to the superblock, you’ll notice that they *are* wide enough for buses to go through. There’s no regular bus lines through there (there’s two metro stations and plenty of bus stops surrounding it) but a school bus isn’t regular service, it doesn’t need to play by the same rules. You can make a pickup at one of those very spacious intersections. It’s not being done because there’s schools in walking distance and German kids can cross roads but it *could* be done. Would you, however, ever speed on those roads.
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          Things aren’t done differently, in principle, in villages. You were the one brining up blocks or did you mean “buildings surrounded by roads *and fields*”.\n
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          [This is Wacken](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.0275469,9.3755654,169m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) (*the* Wacken), I zoomed you in on the primary school. There’s surrounding villages without school so it’s bound to get bus traffic. Note how it’s on a street that’s wide enough for that, but not the main road, the one with all the through-traffic. Can you understand that principle. (Main Roads, actually, Wacken has two, Schenefelder and Hauptstraße).\n
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          > I only took issue with the ridiculous idea that the roads in front of rural US schools could be made safer by making them impassable by busses.\n
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          Noone ever said that? At least I didn’t.
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          > You have one bus going in one direction to a school passing another bus going to another school.\n
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          In front of a school? Are your schools connected directly to highways or something?\n
          \n
          > Have you only lived in an inner city where roads can be one way because they alternate in direction every block?\n
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          We don’t have blocks.
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          > Grundschule Niederstotzingen\n
          \n
          [That’s not on a main road](https://www.google.com/maps/place/Grundschule+Niederstotzingen/@48.5416064,10.2369723,16.33z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x479946d4d21d8af1:0x28d0eb80cb17df7f!8m2!3d48.54188!4d10.23954!16s%2Fg%2F1tgfvlcm?entry=ttu). Zoom out a bit, the main roads are the ones leading to other villages, named after those villages (or in the case of Ulm a city in that direction).\n
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          > Grundschule Pfaffenhofen\n
          \n
          [neither](https://www.google.com/maps/place/Grundschule+Pfaffenhofen/@49.0620402,8.9749824,16.67z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x410b8f8ce5cb2efb:0x31c87e2000d06919!8m2!3d49.06201!4d8.97686!16s%2Fg%2F1tdqmls_?entry=ttu)\n
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          Didn’t check the rest\n
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          > Just like US schools, many have their own driveway that goes off the main road\n
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          Those are residential roads. [This a view of the Niederstotzingen school from the road it’s on](https://www.google.com/maps/@48.542406,10.2389314,3a,60y,119.92h,81.99t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sW-TbbzDmkVz_-XMnR0tqYg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu), the gymnasium is on the other side. Look up and down the road, there’s residential buildings there. Looking at the signage (or rather lack thereof), it’s two-way. No lane markings though small roads just don’t have them, you slow down and make sure to not shear off your side mirrors with the side mirrors of oncoming traffic. The little shack with a sign with an H is a bus stop. Only seems to be served by one bus line (at least I can’t find more), [here’s the schelude](https://www.ding.eu/fileadmin/content/downloads/ics/20230421-DING-EVG-Streik-RAB-Bus/593-Streik-RAB-Fahrten.pdf). It connects to two train stations (including thie Niederstotzingen one) roughly every 30 minutes. Frankly speaking you can walk from there you’ll be faster than waiting for the next bus.\n
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          Niederstotzingen is classed as a city btw, almost 5k inhabitants. It’s not really a size thing in Germany though and nowadays the title doesn’t have any legal meaning, city rights were granted by Kaiser Sigismund in 1430, meaning it served as the local trade hub or such. Congratulations, thanks to wikipedia I know now more about a tiny city I don’t care about in a state I don’t care for :)
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          > Cost. That separate road means buying land from someone and turning it into road. Do they have one way roads for rural schools in Germany? Because I looked at a few Grundschule in Bavaria on Google maps and didn’t see any.\n
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          You’ll have a hard time finding a village with *literally* one single road. Certainly not one 1-2k which is the size that gets the school for the surrounding ones.\n
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          > It is cheaper and more convenient to have a speed camera that is active only during school hours.\n
          \n
          And also completely ineffective at preventing anything.Heck at least use road bumps. Narrow the road only in spots so that two monster trucks if you please fit on comfortably side by side for 50-100m or such, but then it narrows down to half that for just 5m. While you’re at it build a crossing there, narrowing the roads at pedestrian crossing is standard practice in many places and it makes a hell a lot of sense. Yes, that slows down traffic because you might have to negotiate with oncoming traffic who goes first. Yes, that’s precisely the point.
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    > That’s a main road.\n
    \n
    [No it isn’t](https://dictionary.cambridge.org/de/worterbuch/essential-amerikanisches-englisch/main-road):\n
    \n
    > a large road that goes from one town to another:\n
    \n
    And yes you also see residential buildings on main roads. The reason this is a residential and not main road is due to its size and position away from through-traffic. It’s a road where you have a quick look and then just cross, main roads are of the “eh I can look but I probably need to get to a crossing to get across” territory.\n
    \n
    And no there’s no speed bumps why would there if the road is narrow enough and people naturally drive slow enough, there’s no through traffic, the residents don’t race on it, etc.
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      EDIT: since apparently a bunch of people woke up with the wrong foot this morning or forgot to check the group they’re in:\n
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      This is a joke. Do not steal or vandalize speed enforcement cameras (or anything else for that matter). That’s against the law and you will likely get arrested.\n
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      If you’re addicted to crack or any other drugs, please seek professional help.
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          Why can’t you have one-way streets in a rural area? Fork off the main street on one end, merge on the other. Pedestrian and bicycle traffic can be bidirectional, cars can take a little detour they don’t use muscle energy.\n
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          > > Wide enough for one pickup and no opposing traffic, but so narrow that two pickups are going to really have to negotiate to move around each other."\n
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          How does that translate to "block the street for buses? If a street fits two pickups it fits two buses. They’ll have to negotiate to move around each other so if you have many (which, as I told you a lot, you shouldn’t) you should consider a one-way road, or maybe a meeting bay, or a wider street with choke points, or whatever. But it’s not “blocking the road for buses”.
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          > Schools have more than one bus and they have to pass each other.\n
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          No they don’t they can enter from the same side. You’re just looking for excuses. Also why do you need buses in the first place why aren’t the kids walking or biking.
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          US suburbia has a higher density than the German countryside, having to travel 24km is nuts. That’d be defensible if you live in a tiny settlement 24km from a place with more than two dozen houses – I’m sure those exist in the US but suburbia isn’t that.\n
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          How many pupils were there at your school? My state has 106240 pupils in 393 primary schools, that’s an average of 270. Minimum size under ordinary circumstances is 80, the smallest is on Nordstrandischmoor: An island, 18 inhabitants, five families, one school, one teacher, two students, [here it is](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.5518864,8.8108853,16z?entry=ttu). That’s because we don’t do boarding in primary education so there’s a maximum tolerable commute time/distance, once those kids are old enough they’ll spend Monday through Friday on the mainland.\n
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          If your system insists that a school have at least 2k students or such then, yes, of course, walking to school will be an impossibility for most. Fix your school sizes and like 99% of students will be able to walk or bike, use buses or minivans or whatnot for the rest we do that too (not really possible in Nordstrandischmoor, thing doesn’t even have a ferry but a rail link that’s only usable when the tide is low).\n
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          And no it wasn’t my school it was my Kindergarten, which wasn’t, by a long shot, the closest to home it was the one my parents chose. I mentioned it to say that biking 3.5km is something a 4yold can do, physically, without any issue at all really.
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          > Roads are typically 2 lanes one in each direction. You already know this because you said a solution would be to remove the lane marker.\n
          \n
          I’m someone else.\n
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          > So you have a road with an elementary school, and 2 miles further down is a middle school. Even without that you have buses passing each other during pickup because busses only pickup kids on one side of the street so you don’t have young kids crossing roads.\n
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          Lots of questions here: Why can’t kids walk 500m to the next bus stop? Why are streets so unsafe so that kids can’t cross them?\n
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          Why assume that there’s no larger road in between those smaller roads? Roads generally form a hierarchy, you have big ones feeding into middle ones feeding into small ones. Small ones should absolutely be safe to cross, also without explicit crossings, because they’re traffic calmed and don’t have much traffic in the first place. That’s where houses and schools are, where there’s no through-traffic because even if they aren’t cul de sacs who would drive through a road you can’t drive fast on when there’s a mid-level road that you could take.\n
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          > What do you call a section of inner city bounded on all sides by a road in your country?\n
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          Straßenblock. Let me put it differently: We don’t have grids and nothing is regular. [This is about as grid-y as it gets](https://www.google.com/maps/@53.5753832,9.9851206,1090m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) and if you zoom in you’ll notice that the interior streets have no lane markers and some even are cobbled. Those connect to a street ( south, Hallerstraße) with bike lanes (don’t need those on smaller streets because there’s not enough traffic to warrant them), which connects to a four-lane (plus bus lane) street, Grindelalle, west. The intersection looks a bit crazy but it’s actually safe for pedestrians and you should’ve learned how to cross streets safely and what traffic lights are in Kindergarten. You’ve also been there with your parents (going shopping or whatever) a lot of times, nothing scary really. That kind of density and housing is probably illegal to build where you are (it’s illegal pretty much everywhere in the US and Canada).\n
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          And mind you Hamburg is awful when it comes to urbanism, way too car-centric. Not because of lack of public transport but because politicians are unwilling to kill off car traffic and the whole city is full of rich fucks with too much disposable income.
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          Let me look at a map… maybe 1km max anywhere in my 30k town to the next primary school and that’s when you’re living on the very very edge of town. Should be under 500m for most pupils.\n
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          If you’re living in a rural area, outside of the next village (which will have a school), which is an absolute exception as things tend to cluster into villages in rural areas, it might be 5km. Not really an issue with a bike, I biked what 3.5km to Kindergarten (together with my mom). If you have less density than that you probably should have boarding schools.\n
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          For secondary education, if you’re living in a village you’ll probably have to take the bus to the nearest city. Regular public transport though the schedule will take school times into account. Yes, kids can walk 500m to the nearest station.\n
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          Bonus: All that school density – smaller but way more of them – means that there’s obvious places to hold elections as there’s a municipality-owned place in Sunday stroll distance to pretty much everywhere. The only downside are the ludicrously low tables.
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          > A block in the US doesn’t mean a square either.\n
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          Yes, great, blame a non native speaker for expressing himself incorrectly, correcting himself, and then quadruple down on it. I was thinking of unprioritised NY-style blocks you see all over the place in US cities, gridlock magnets. You know, places where people say “down the block” and generally measure distances in blocks.\n
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          > It is required that children do not cross two lane roads to be picked up by school buses. I don’t make the rules. I don’t have a solution to US car culture. But making roads unpassable by school buses isn’t an answer.\n
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          If you look back at that Hamburg link, at those streets internal to the superblock, you’ll notice that they *are* wide enough for buses to go through. There’s no regular bus lines through there (there’s two metro stations and plenty of bus stops surrounding it) but a school bus isn’t regular service, it doesn’t need to play by the same rules. You can make a pickup at one of those very spacious intersections. It’s not being done because there’s schools in walking distance and German kids can cross roads but it *could* be done. Would you, however, ever speed on those roads.
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          Things aren’t done differently, in principle, in villages. You were the one brining up blocks or did you mean “buildings surrounded by roads *and fields*”.\n
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          [This is Wacken](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.0275469,9.3755654,169m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) (*the* Wacken), I zoomed you in on the primary school. There’s surrounding villages without school so it’s bound to get bus traffic. Note how it’s on a street that’s wide enough for that, but not the main road, the one with all the through-traffic. Can you understand that principle. (Main Roads, actually, Wacken has two, Schenefelder and Hauptstraße).\n
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          > I only took issue with the ridiculous idea that the roads in front of rural US schools could be made safer by making them impassable by busses.\n
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          Noone ever said that? At least I didn’t.
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          > You have one bus going in one direction to a school passing another bus going to another school.\n
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          In front of a school? Are your schools connected directly to highways or something?\n
          \n
          > Have you only lived in an inner city where roads can be one way because they alternate in direction every block?\n
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          We don’t have blocks.
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          > Grundschule Niederstotzingen\n
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          [That’s not on a main road](https://www.google.com/maps/place/Grundschule+Niederstotzingen/@48.5416064,10.2369723,16.33z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x479946d4d21d8af1:0x28d0eb80cb17df7f!8m2!3d48.54188!4d10.23954!16s%2Fg%2F1tgfvlcm?entry=ttu). Zoom out a bit, the main roads are the ones leading to other villages, named after those villages (or in the case of Ulm a city in that direction).\n
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          > Grundschule Pfaffenhofen\n
          \n
          [neither](https://www.google.com/maps/place/Grundschule+Pfaffenhofen/@49.0620402,8.9749824,16.67z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x410b8f8ce5cb2efb:0x31c87e2000d06919!8m2!3d49.06201!4d8.97686!16s%2Fg%2F1tdqmls_?entry=ttu)\n
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          Didn’t check the rest\n
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          > Just like US schools, many have their own driveway that goes off the main road\n
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          Those are residential roads. [This a view of the Niederstotzingen school from the road it’s on](https://www.google.com/maps/@48.542406,10.2389314,3a,60y,119.92h,81.99t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sW-TbbzDmkVz_-XMnR0tqYg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu), the gymnasium is on the other side. Look up and down the road, there’s residential buildings there. Looking at the signage (or rather lack thereof), it’s two-way. No lane markings though small roads just don’t have them, you slow down and make sure to not shear off your side mirrors with the side mirrors of oncoming traffic. The little shack with a sign with an H is a bus stop. Only seems to be served by one bus line (at least I can’t find more), [here’s the schelude](https://www.ding.eu/fileadmin/content/downloads/ics/20230421-DING-EVG-Streik-RAB-Bus/593-Streik-RAB-Fahrten.pdf). It connects to two train stations (including thie Niederstotzingen one) roughly every 30 minutes. Frankly speaking you can walk from there you’ll be faster than waiting for the next bus.\n
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          Niederstotzingen is classed as a city btw, almost 5k inhabitants. It’s not really a size thing in Germany though and nowadays the title doesn’t have any legal meaning, city rights were granted by Kaiser Sigismund in 1430, meaning it served as the local trade hub or such. Congratulations, thanks to wikipedia I know now more about a tiny city I don’t care about in a state I don’t care for :)
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          > Cost. That separate road means buying land from someone and turning it into road. Do they have one way roads for rural schools in Germany? Because I looked at a few Grundschule in Bavaria on Google maps and didn’t see any.\n
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          You’ll have a hard time finding a village with *literally* one single road. Certainly not one 1-2k which is the size that gets the school for the surrounding ones.\n
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          > It is cheaper and more convenient to have a speed camera that is active only during school hours.\n
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          And also completely ineffective at preventing anything.Heck at least use road bumps. Narrow the road only in spots so that two monster trucks if you please fit on comfortably side by side for 50-100m or such, but then it narrows down to half that for just 5m. While you’re at it build a crossing there, narrowing the roads at pedestrian crossing is standard practice in many places and it makes a hell a lot of sense. Yes, that slows down traffic because you might have to negotiate with oncoming traffic who goes first. Yes, that’s precisely the point.
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    > That’s a main road.\n
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    [No it isn’t](https://dictionary.cambridge.org/de/worterbuch/essential-amerikanisches-englisch/main-road):\n
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    > a large road that goes from one town to another:\n
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    And yes you also see residential buildings on main roads. The reason this is a residential and not main road is due to its size and position away from through-traffic. It’s a road where you have a quick look and then just cross, main roads are of the “eh I can look but I probably need to get to a crossing to get across” territory.\n
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          Why can’t you have one-way streets in a rural area? Fork off the main street on one end, merge on the other. Pedestrian and bicycle traffic can be bidirectional, cars can take a little detour they don’t use muscle energy.\n
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          > Roads are typically 2 lanes one in each direction. You already know this because you said a solution would be to remove the lane marker.\n
          \n
          I’m someone else.\n
          \n
          > So you have a road with an elementary school, and 2 miles further down is a middle school. Even without that you have buses passing each other during pickup because busses only pickup kids on one side of the street so you don’t have young kids crossing roads.\n
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          Lots of questions here: Why can’t kids walk 500m to the next bus stop? Why are streets so unsafe so that kids can’t cross them?\n
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          Why assume that there’s no larger road in between those smaller roads? Roads generally form a hierarchy, you have big ones feeding into middle ones feeding into small ones. Small ones should absolutely be safe to cross, also without explicit crossings, because they’re traffic calmed and don’t have much traffic in the first place. That’s where houses and schools are, where there’s no through-traffic because even if they aren’t cul de sacs who would drive through a road you can’t drive fast on when there’s a mid-level road that you could take.\n
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          > What do you call a section of inner city bounded on all sides by a road in your country?\n
          \n
          Straßenblock. Let me put it differently: We don’t have grids and nothing is regular. [This is about as grid-y as it gets](https://www.google.com/maps/@53.5753832,9.9851206,1090m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) and if you zoom in you’ll notice that the interior streets have no lane markers and some even are cobbled. Those connect to a street ( south, Hallerstraße) with bike lanes (don’t need those on smaller streets because there’s not enough traffic to warrant them), which connects to a four-lane (plus bus lane) street, Grindelalle, west. The intersection looks a bit crazy but it’s actually safe for pedestrians and you should’ve learned how to cross streets safely and what traffic lights are in Kindergarten. You’ve also been there with your parents (going shopping or whatever) a lot of times, nothing scary really. That kind of density and housing is probably illegal to build where you are (it’s illegal pretty much everywhere in the US and Canada).\n
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          And mind you Hamburg is awful when it comes to urbanism, way too car-centric. Not because of lack of public transport but because politicians are unwilling to kill off car traffic and the whole city is full of rich fucks with too much disposable income.
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          Let me look at a map… maybe 1km max anywhere in my 30k town to the next primary school and that’s when you’re living on the very very edge of town. Should be under 500m for most pupils.\n
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          If you’re living in a rural area, outside of the next village (which will have a school), which is an absolute exception as things tend to cluster into villages in rural areas, it might be 5km. Not really an issue with a bike, I biked what 3.5km to Kindergarten (together with my mom). If you have less density than that you probably should have boarding schools.\n
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          For secondary education, if you’re living in a village you’ll probably have to take the bus to the nearest city. Regular public transport though the schedule will take school times into account. Yes, kids can walk 500m to the nearest station.\n
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          Bonus: All that school density – smaller but way more of them – means that there’s obvious places to hold elections as there’s a municipality-owned place in Sunday stroll distance to pretty much everywhere. The only downside are the ludicrously low tables.
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          > A block in the US doesn’t mean a square either.\n
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          Yes, great, blame a non native speaker for expressing himself incorrectly, correcting himself, and then quadruple down on it. I was thinking of unprioritised NY-style blocks you see all over the place in US cities, gridlock magnets. You know, places where people say “down the block” and generally measure distances in blocks.\n
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          > It is required that children do not cross two lane roads to be picked up by school buses. I don’t make the rules. I don’t have a solution to US car culture. But making roads unpassable by school buses isn’t an answer.\n
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          If you look back at that Hamburg link, at those streets internal to the superblock, you’ll notice that they *are* wide enough for buses to go through. There’s no regular bus lines through there (there’s two metro stations and plenty of bus stops surrounding it) but a school bus isn’t regular service, it doesn’t need to play by the same rules. You can make a pickup at one of those very spacious intersections. It’s not being done because there’s schools in walking distance and German kids can cross roads but it *could* be done. Would you, however, ever speed on those roads.
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          Things aren’t done differently, in principle, in villages. You were the one brining up blocks or did you mean “buildings surrounded by roads *and fields*”.\n
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          [This is Wacken](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.0275469,9.3755654,169m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) (*the* Wacken), I zoomed you in on the primary school. There’s surrounding villages without school so it’s bound to get bus traffic. Note how it’s on a street that’s wide enough for that, but not the main road, the one with all the through-traffic. Can you understand that principle. (Main Roads, actually, Wacken has two, Schenefelder and Hauptstraße).\n
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          > I only took issue with the ridiculous idea that the roads in front of rural US schools could be made safer by making them impassable by busses.\n
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          Noone ever said that? At least I didn’t.
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          > You have one bus going in one direction to a school passing another bus going to another school.\n
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          In front of a school? Are your schools connected directly to highways or something?\n
          \n
          > Have you only lived in an inner city where roads can be one way because they alternate in direction every block?\n
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          We don’t have blocks.
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          > Grundschule Niederstotzingen\n
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          [That’s not on a main road](https://www.google.com/maps/place/Grundschule+Niederstotzingen/@48.5416064,10.2369723,16.33z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x479946d4d21d8af1:0x28d0eb80cb17df7f!8m2!3d48.54188!4d10.23954!16s%2Fg%2F1tgfvlcm?entry=ttu). Zoom out a bit, the main roads are the ones leading to other villages, named after those villages (or in the case of Ulm a city in that direction).\n
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          > Grundschule Pfaffenhofen\n
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          [neither](https://www.google.com/maps/place/Grundschule+Pfaffenhofen/@49.0620402,8.9749824,16.67z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x410b8f8ce5cb2efb:0x31c87e2000d06919!8m2!3d49.06201!4d8.97686!16s%2Fg%2F1tdqmls_?entry=ttu)\n
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          Didn’t check the rest\n
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          > Just like US schools, many have their own driveway that goes off the main road\n
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          Those are residential roads. [This a view of the Niederstotzingen school from the road it’s on](https://www.google.com/maps/@48.542406,10.2389314,3a,60y,119.92h,81.99t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sW-TbbzDmkVz_-XMnR0tqYg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu), the gymnasium is on the other side. Look up and down the road, there’s residential buildings there. Looking at the signage (or rather lack thereof), it’s two-way. No lane markings though small roads just don’t have them, you slow down and make sure to not shear off your side mirrors with the side mirrors of oncoming traffic. The little shack with a sign with an H is a bus stop. Only seems to be served by one bus line (at least I can’t find more), [here’s the schelude](https://www.ding.eu/fileadmin/content/downloads/ics/20230421-DING-EVG-Streik-RAB-Bus/593-Streik-RAB-Fahrten.pdf). It connects to two train stations (including thie Niederstotzingen one) roughly every 30 minutes. Frankly speaking you can walk from there you’ll be faster than waiting for the next bus.\n
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          Niederstotzingen is classed as a city btw, almost 5k inhabitants. It’s not really a size thing in Germany though and nowadays the title doesn’t have any legal meaning, city rights were granted by Kaiser Sigismund in 1430, meaning it served as the local trade hub or such. Congratulations, thanks to wikipedia I know now more about a tiny city I don’t care about in a state I don’t care for :)
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          > Cost. That separate road means buying land from someone and turning it into road. Do they have one way roads for rural schools in Germany? Because I looked at a few Grundschule in Bavaria on Google maps and didn’t see any.\n
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          You’ll have a hard time finding a village with *literally* one single road. Certainly not one 1-2k which is the size that gets the school for the surrounding ones.\n
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          > It is cheaper and more convenient to have a speed camera that is active only during school hours.\n
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          And also completely ineffective at preventing anything.Heck at least use road bumps. Narrow the road only in spots so that two monster trucks if you please fit on comfortably side by side for 50-100m or such, but then it narrows down to half that for just 5m. While you’re at it build a crossing there, narrowing the roads at pedestrian crossing is standard practice in many places and it makes a hell a lot of sense. Yes, that slows down traffic because you might have to negotiate with oncoming traffic who goes first. Yes, that’s precisely the point.
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    US suburbia has a higher density than the German countryside, having to travel 24km is nuts. That’d be defensible if you live in a tiny settlement 24km from a place with more than two dozen houses – I’m sure those exist in the US but suburbia isn’t that.\n
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    How many pupils were there at your school? My state has 106240 pupils in 393 primary schools, that’s an average of 270. Minimum size under ordinary circumstances is 80, the smallest is on Nordstrandischmoor: An island, 18 inhabitants, five families, one school, one teacher, two students, [here it is](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.5518864,8.8108853,16z?entry=ttu). That’s because we don’t do boarding in primary education so there’s a maximum tolerable commute time/distance, once those kids are old enough they’ll spend Monday through Friday on the mainland.\n
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    If your system insists that a school have at least 2k students or such then, yes, of course, walking to school will be an impossibility for most. Fix your school sizes and like 99% of students will be able to walk or bike, use buses or minivans or whatnot for the rest we do that too (not really possible in Nordstrandischmoor, thing doesn’t even have a ferry but a rail link that’s only usable when the tide is low).\n
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    And no it wasn’t my school it was my Kindergarten, which wasn’t, by a long shot, the closest to home it was the one my parents chose. I mentioned it to say that biking 3.5km is something a 4yold can do, physically, without any issue at all really.
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          Why can’t you have one-way streets in a rural area? Fork off the main street on one end, merge on the other. Pedestrian and bicycle traffic can be bidirectional, cars can take a little detour they don’t use muscle energy.\n
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          > That’s a main road.\n
          \n
          [No it isn’t](https://dictionary.cambridge.org/de/worterbuch/essential-amerikanisches-englisch/main-road):\n
          \n
          > a large road that goes from one town to another:\n
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          And yes you also see residential buildings on main roads. The reason this is a residential and not main road is due to its size and position away from through-traffic. It’s a road where you have a quick look and then just cross, main roads are of the “eh I can look but I probably need to get to a crossing to get across” territory.\n
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          And no there’s no speed bumps why would there if the road is narrow enough and people naturally drive slow enough, there’s no through traffic, the residents don’t race on it, etc.
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          > Roads are typically 2 lanes one in each direction. You already know this because you said a solution would be to remove the lane marker.\n
          \n
          I’m someone else.\n
          \n
          > So you have a road with an elementary school, and 2 miles further down is a middle school. Even without that you have buses passing each other during pickup because busses only pickup kids on one side of the street so you don’t have young kids crossing roads.\n
          \n
          Lots of questions here: Why can’t kids walk 500m to the next bus stop? Why are streets so unsafe so that kids can’t cross them?\n
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          Why assume that there’s no larger road in between those smaller roads? Roads generally form a hierarchy, you have big ones feeding into middle ones feeding into small ones. Small ones should absolutely be safe to cross, also without explicit crossings, because they’re traffic calmed and don’t have much traffic in the first place. That’s where houses and schools are, where there’s no through-traffic because even if they aren’t cul de sacs who would drive through a road you can’t drive fast on when there’s a mid-level road that you could take.\n
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          > What do you call a section of inner city bounded on all sides by a road in your country?\n
          \n
          Straßenblock. Let me put it differently: We don’t have grids and nothing is regular. [This is about as grid-y as it gets](https://www.google.com/maps/@53.5753832,9.9851206,1090m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) and if you zoom in you’ll notice that the interior streets have no lane markers and some even are cobbled. Those connect to a street ( south, Hallerstraße) with bike lanes (don’t need those on smaller streets because there’s not enough traffic to warrant them), which connects to a four-lane (plus bus lane) street, Grindelalle, west. The intersection looks a bit crazy but it’s actually safe for pedestrians and you should’ve learned how to cross streets safely and what traffic lights are in Kindergarten. You’ve also been there with your parents (going shopping or whatever) a lot of times, nothing scary really. That kind of density and housing is probably illegal to build where you are (it’s illegal pretty much everywhere in the US and Canada).\n
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          And mind you Hamburg is awful when it comes to urbanism, way too car-centric. Not because of lack of public transport but because politicians are unwilling to kill off car traffic and the whole city is full of rich fucks with too much disposable income.
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          Let me look at a map… maybe 1km max anywhere in my 30k town to the next primary school and that’s when you’re living on the very very edge of town. Should be under 500m for most pupils.\n
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          If you’re living in a rural area, outside of the next village (which will have a school), which is an absolute exception as things tend to cluster into villages in rural areas, it might be 5km. Not really an issue with a bike, I biked what 3.5km to Kindergarten (together with my mom). If you have less density than that you probably should have boarding schools.\n
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          For secondary education, if you’re living in a village you’ll probably have to take the bus to the nearest city. Regular public transport though the schedule will take school times into account. Yes, kids can walk 500m to the nearest station.\n
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          Bonus: All that school density – smaller but way more of them – means that there’s obvious places to hold elections as there’s a municipality-owned place in Sunday stroll distance to pretty much everywhere. The only downside are the ludicrously low tables.
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          > A block in the US doesn’t mean a square either.\n
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          Yes, great, blame a non native speaker for expressing himself incorrectly, correcting himself, and then quadruple down on it. I was thinking of unprioritised NY-style blocks you see all over the place in US cities, gridlock magnets. You know, places where people say “down the block” and generally measure distances in blocks.\n
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          > It is required that children do not cross two lane roads to be picked up by school buses. I don’t make the rules. I don’t have a solution to US car culture. But making roads unpassable by school buses isn’t an answer.\n
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          If you look back at that Hamburg link, at those streets internal to the superblock, you’ll notice that they *are* wide enough for buses to go through. There’s no regular bus lines through there (there’s two metro stations and plenty of bus stops surrounding it) but a school bus isn’t regular service, it doesn’t need to play by the same rules. You can make a pickup at one of those very spacious intersections. It’s not being done because there’s schools in walking distance and German kids can cross roads but it *could* be done. Would you, however, ever speed on those roads.
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          Things aren’t done differently, in principle, in villages. You were the one brining up blocks or did you mean “buildings surrounded by roads *and fields*”.\n
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          [This is Wacken](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.0275469,9.3755654,169m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) (*the* Wacken), I zoomed you in on the primary school. There’s surrounding villages without school so it’s bound to get bus traffic. Note how it’s on a street that’s wide enough for that, but not the main road, the one with all the through-traffic. Can you understand that principle. (Main Roads, actually, Wacken has two, Schenefelder and Hauptstraße).\n
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          > I only took issue with the ridiculous idea that the roads in front of rural US schools could be made safer by making them impassable by busses.\n
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          Noone ever said that? At least I didn’t.
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          > You have one bus going in one direction to a school passing another bus going to another school.\n
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          In front of a school? Are your schools connected directly to highways or something?\n
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          > Have you only lived in an inner city where roads can be one way because they alternate in direction every block?\n
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          We don’t have blocks.
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          > Grundschule Niederstotzingen\n
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          [That’s not on a main road](https://www.google.com/maps/place/Grundschule+Niederstotzingen/@48.5416064,10.2369723,16.33z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x479946d4d21d8af1:0x28d0eb80cb17df7f!8m2!3d48.54188!4d10.23954!16s%2Fg%2F1tgfvlcm?entry=ttu). Zoom out a bit, the main roads are the ones leading to other villages, named after those villages (or in the case of Ulm a city in that direction).\n
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          > Grundschule Pfaffenhofen\n
          \n
          [neither](https://www.google.com/maps/place/Grundschule+Pfaffenhofen/@49.0620402,8.9749824,16.67z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x410b8f8ce5cb2efb:0x31c87e2000d06919!8m2!3d49.06201!4d8.97686!16s%2Fg%2F1tdqmls_?entry=ttu)\n
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          Didn’t check the rest\n
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          > Just like US schools, many have their own driveway that goes off the main road\n
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          Those are residential roads. [This a view of the Niederstotzingen school from the road it’s on](https://www.google.com/maps/@48.542406,10.2389314,3a,60y,119.92h,81.99t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sW-TbbzDmkVz_-XMnR0tqYg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu), the gymnasium is on the other side. Look up and down the road, there’s residential buildings there. Looking at the signage (or rather lack thereof), it’s two-way. No lane markings though small roads just don’t have them, you slow down and make sure to not shear off your side mirrors with the side mirrors of oncoming traffic. The little shack with a sign with an H is a bus stop. Only seems to be served by one bus line (at least I can’t find more), [here’s the schelude](https://www.ding.eu/fileadmin/content/downloads/ics/20230421-DING-EVG-Streik-RAB-Bus/593-Streik-RAB-Fahrten.pdf). It connects to two train stations (including thie Niederstotzingen one) roughly every 30 minutes. Frankly speaking you can walk from there you’ll be faster than waiting for the next bus.\n
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          Niederstotzingen is classed as a city btw, almost 5k inhabitants. It’s not really a size thing in Germany though and nowadays the title doesn’t have any legal meaning, city rights were granted by Kaiser Sigismund in 1430, meaning it served as the local trade hub or such. Congratulations, thanks to wikipedia I know now more about a tiny city I don’t care about in a state I don’t care for :)
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          > Cost. That separate road means buying land from someone and turning it into road. Do they have one way roads for rural schools in Germany? Because I looked at a few Grundschule in Bavaria on Google maps and didn’t see any.\n
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          You’ll have a hard time finding a village with *literally* one single road. Certainly not one 1-2k which is the size that gets the school for the surrounding ones.\n
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          > It is cheaper and more convenient to have a speed camera that is active only during school hours.\n
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          And also completely ineffective at preventing anything.Heck at least use road bumps. Narrow the road only in spots so that two monster trucks if you please fit on comfortably side by side for 50-100m or such, but then it narrows down to half that for just 5m. While you’re at it build a crossing there, narrowing the roads at pedestrian crossing is standard practice in many places and it makes a hell a lot of sense. Yes, that slows down traffic because you might have to negotiate with oncoming traffic who goes first. Yes, that’s precisely the point.
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    US suburbia has a higher density than the German countryside, having to travel 24km is nuts. That’d be defensible if you live in a tiny settlement 24km from a place with more than two dozen houses – I’m sure those exist in the US but suburbia isn’t that.\n
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    How many pupils were there at your school? My state has 106240 pupils in 393 primary schools, that’s an average of 270. Minimum size under ordinary circumstances is 80, the smallest is on Nordstrandischmoor: An island, 18 inhabitants, five families, one school, one teacher, two students, [here it is](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.5518864,8.8108853,16z?entry=ttu). That’s because we don’t do boarding in primary education so there’s a maximum tolerable commute time/distance, once those kids are old enough they’ll spend Monday through Friday on the mainland.\n
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    If your system insists that a school have at least 2k students or such then, yes, of course, walking to school will be an impossibility for most. Fix your school sizes and like 99% of students will be able to walk or bike, use buses or minivans or whatnot for the rest we do that too (not really possible in Nordstrandischmoor, thing doesn’t even have a ferry but a rail link that’s only usable when the tide is low).\n
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    And no it wasn’t my school it was my Kindergarten, which wasn’t, by a long shot, the closest to home it was the one my parents chose. I mentioned it to say that biking 3.5km is something a 4yold can do, physically, without any issue at all really.
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          Why can’t you have one-way streets in a rural area? Fork off the main street on one end, merge on the other. Pedestrian and bicycle traffic can be bidirectional, cars can take a little detour they don’t use muscle energy.\n
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          > > Wide enough for one pickup and no opposing traffic, but so narrow that two pickups are going to really have to negotiate to move around each other."\n
          \n
          How does that translate to "block the street for buses? If a street fits two pickups it fits two buses. They’ll have to negotiate to move around each other so if you have many (which, as I told you a lot, you shouldn’t) you should consider a one-way road, or maybe a meeting bay, or a wider street with choke points, or whatever. But it’s not “blocking the road for buses”.
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          > Schools have more than one bus and they have to pass each other.\n
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          No they don’t they can enter from the same side. You’re just looking for excuses. Also why do you need buses in the first place why aren’t the kids walking or biking.
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          > That’s a main road.\n
          \n
          [No it isn’t](https://dictionary.cambridge.org/de/worterbuch/essential-amerikanisches-englisch/main-road):\n
          \n
          > a large road that goes from one town to another:\n
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          And yes you also see residential buildings on main roads. The reason this is a residential and not main road is due to its size and position away from through-traffic. It’s a road where you have a quick look and then just cross, main roads are of the “eh I can look but I probably need to get to a crossing to get across” territory.\n
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          And no there’s no speed bumps why would there if the road is narrow enough and people naturally drive slow enough, there’s no through traffic, the residents don’t race on it, etc.
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          > Roads are typically 2 lanes one in each direction. You already know this because you said a solution would be to remove the lane marker.\n
          \n
          I’m someone else.\n
          \n
          > So you have a road with an elementary school, and 2 miles further down is a middle school. Even without that you have buses passing each other during pickup because busses only pickup kids on one side of the street so you don’t have young kids crossing roads.\n
          \n
          Lots of questions here: Why can’t kids walk 500m to the next bus stop? Why are streets so unsafe so that kids can’t cross them?\n
          \n
          Why assume that there’s no larger road in between those smaller roads? Roads generally form a hierarchy, you have big ones feeding into middle ones feeding into small ones. Small ones should absolutely be safe to cross, also without explicit crossings, because they’re traffic calmed and don’t have much traffic in the first place. That’s where houses and schools are, where there’s no through-traffic because even if they aren’t cul de sacs who would drive through a road you can’t drive fast on when there’s a mid-level road that you could take.\n
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          > What do you call a section of inner city bounded on all sides by a road in your country?\n
          \n
          Straßenblock. Let me put it differently: We don’t have grids and nothing is regular. [This is about as grid-y as it gets](https://www.google.com/maps/@53.5753832,9.9851206,1090m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) and if you zoom in you’ll notice that the interior streets have no lane markers and some even are cobbled. Those connect to a street ( south, Hallerstraße) with bike lanes (don’t need those on smaller streets because there’s not enough traffic to warrant them), which connects to a four-lane (plus bus lane) street, Grindelalle, west. The intersection looks a bit crazy but it’s actually safe for pedestrians and you should’ve learned how to cross streets safely and what traffic lights are in Kindergarten. You’ve also been there with your parents (going shopping or whatever) a lot of times, nothing scary really. That kind of density and housing is probably illegal to build where you are (it’s illegal pretty much everywhere in the US and Canada).\n
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          And mind you Hamburg is awful when it comes to urbanism, way too car-centric. Not because of lack of public transport but because politicians are unwilling to kill off car traffic and the whole city is full of rich fucks with too much disposable income.
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          Let me look at a map… maybe 1km max anywhere in my 30k town to the next primary school and that’s when you’re living on the very very edge of town. Should be under 500m for most pupils.\n
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          If you’re living in a rural area, outside of the next village (which will have a school), which is an absolute exception as things tend to cluster into villages in rural areas, it might be 5km. Not really an issue with a bike, I biked what 3.5km to Kindergarten (together with my mom). If you have less density than that you probably should have boarding schools.\n
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          For secondary education, if you’re living in a village you’ll probably have to take the bus to the nearest city. Regular public transport though the schedule will take school times into account. Yes, kids can walk 500m to the nearest station.\n
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          Bonus: All that school density – smaller but way more of them – means that there’s obvious places to hold elections as there’s a municipality-owned place in Sunday stroll distance to pretty much everywhere. The only downside are the ludicrously low tables.
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          > A block in the US doesn’t mean a square either.\n
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          Yes, great, blame a non native speaker for expressing himself incorrectly, correcting himself, and then quadruple down on it. I was thinking of unprioritised NY-style blocks you see all over the place in US cities, gridlock magnets. You know, places where people say “down the block” and generally measure distances in blocks.\n
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          > It is required that children do not cross two lane roads to be picked up by school buses. I don’t make the rules. I don’t have a solution to US car culture. But making roads unpassable by school buses isn’t an answer.\n
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          If you look back at that Hamburg link, at those streets internal to the superblock, you’ll notice that they *are* wide enough for buses to go through. There’s no regular bus lines through there (there’s two metro stations and plenty of bus stops surrounding it) but a school bus isn’t regular service, it doesn’t need to play by the same rules. You can make a pickup at one of those very spacious intersections. It’s not being done because there’s schools in walking distance and German kids can cross roads but it *could* be done. Would you, however, ever speed on those roads.
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          Things aren’t done differently, in principle, in villages. You were the one brining up blocks or did you mean “buildings surrounded by roads *and fields*”.\n
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          [This is Wacken](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.0275469,9.3755654,169m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) (*the* Wacken), I zoomed you in on the primary school. There’s surrounding villages without school so it’s bound to get bus traffic. Note how it’s on a street that’s wide enough for that, but not the main road, the one with all the through-traffic. Can you understand that principle. (Main Roads, actually, Wacken has two, Schenefelder and Hauptstraße).\n
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          > I only took issue with the ridiculous idea that the roads in front of rural US schools could be made safer by making them impassable by busses.\n
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          Noone ever said that? At least I didn’t.
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          > You have one bus going in one direction to a school passing another bus going to another school.\n
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          In front of a school? Are your schools connected directly to highways or something?\n
          \n
          > Have you only lived in an inner city where roads can be one way because they alternate in direction every block?\n
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          We don’t have blocks.
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          > Grundschule Niederstotzingen\n
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          [That’s not on a main road](https://www.google.com/maps/place/Grundschule+Niederstotzingen/@48.5416064,10.2369723,16.33z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x479946d4d21d8af1:0x28d0eb80cb17df7f!8m2!3d48.54188!4d10.23954!16s%2Fg%2F1tgfvlcm?entry=ttu). Zoom out a bit, the main roads are the ones leading to other villages, named after those villages (or in the case of Ulm a city in that direction).\n
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          > Grundschule Pfaffenhofen\n
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          [neither](https://www.google.com/maps/place/Grundschule+Pfaffenhofen/@49.0620402,8.9749824,16.67z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x410b8f8ce5cb2efb:0x31c87e2000d06919!8m2!3d49.06201!4d8.97686!16s%2Fg%2F1tdqmls_?entry=ttu)\n
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          Didn’t check the rest\n
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          > Just like US schools, many have their own driveway that goes off the main road\n
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          Those are residential roads. [This a view of the Niederstotzingen school from the road it’s on](https://www.google.com/maps/@48.542406,10.2389314,3a,60y,119.92h,81.99t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sW-TbbzDmkVz_-XMnR0tqYg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu), the gymnasium is on the other side. Look up and down the road, there’s residential buildings there. Looking at the signage (or rather lack thereof), it’s two-way. No lane markings though small roads just don’t have them, you slow down and make sure to not shear off your side mirrors with the side mirrors of oncoming traffic. The little shack with a sign with an H is a bus stop. Only seems to be served by one bus line (at least I can’t find more), [here’s the schelude](https://www.ding.eu/fileadmin/content/downloads/ics/20230421-DING-EVG-Streik-RAB-Bus/593-Streik-RAB-Fahrten.pdf). It connects to two train stations (including thie Niederstotzingen one) roughly every 30 minutes. Frankly speaking you can walk from there you’ll be faster than waiting for the next bus.\n
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          Niederstotzingen is classed as a city btw, almost 5k inhabitants. It’s not really a size thing in Germany though and nowadays the title doesn’t have any legal meaning, city rights were granted by Kaiser Sigismund in 1430, meaning it served as the local trade hub or such. Congratulations, thanks to wikipedia I know now more about a tiny city I don’t care about in a state I don’t care for :)
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          > Cost. That separate road means buying land from someone and turning it into road. Do they have one way roads for rural schools in Germany? Because I looked at a few Grundschule in Bavaria on Google maps and didn’t see any.\n
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          You’ll have a hard time finding a village with *literally* one single road. Certainly not one 1-2k which is the size that gets the school for the surrounding ones.\n
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          > It is cheaper and more convenient to have a speed camera that is active only during school hours.\n
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          And also completely ineffective at preventing anything.Heck at least use road bumps. Narrow the road only in spots so that two monster trucks if you please fit on comfortably side by side for 50-100m or such, but then it narrows down to half that for just 5m. While you’re at it build a crossing there, narrowing the roads at pedestrian crossing is standard practice in many places and it makes a hell a lot of sense. Yes, that slows down traffic because you might have to negotiate with oncoming traffic who goes first. Yes, that’s precisely the point.
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    US suburbia has a higher density than the German countryside, having to travel 24km is nuts. That’d be defensible if you live in a tiny settlement 24km from a place with more than two dozen houses – I’m sure those exist in the US but suburbia isn’t that.\n
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    How many pupils were there at your school? My state has 106240 pupils in 393 primary schools, that’s an average of 270. Minimum size under ordinary circumstances is 80, the smallest is on Nordstrandischmoor: An island, 18 inhabitants, five families, one school, one teacher, two students, [here it is](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.5518864,8.8108853,16z?entry=ttu). That’s because we don’t do boarding in primary education so there’s a maximum tolerable commute time/distance, once those kids are old enough they’ll spend Monday through Friday on the mainland.\n
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    If your system insists that a school have at least 2k students or such then, yes, of course, walking to school will be an impossibility for most. Fix your school sizes and like 99% of students will be able to walk or bike, use buses or minivans or whatnot for the rest we do that too (not really possible in Nordstrandischmoor, thing doesn’t even have a ferry but a rail link that’s only usable when the tide is low).\n
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    And no it wasn’t my school it was my Kindergarten, which wasn’t, by a long shot, the closest to home it was the one my parents chose. I mentioned it to say that biking 3.5km is something a 4yold can do, physically, without any issue at all really.
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      EDIT: since apparently a bunch of people woke up with the wrong foot this morning or forgot to check the group they’re in:\n
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      This is a joke. Do not steal or vandalize speed enforcement cameras (or anything else for that matter). That’s against the law and you will likely get arrested.\n
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      If you’re addicted to crack or any other drugs, please seek professional help.
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          Why can’t you have one-way streets in a rural area? Fork off the main street on one end, merge on the other. Pedestrian and bicycle traffic can be bidirectional, cars can take a little detour they don’t use muscle energy.\n
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          > > Wide enough for one pickup and no opposing traffic, but so narrow that two pickups are going to really have to negotiate to move around each other."\n
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          How does that translate to "block the street for buses? If a street fits two pickups it fits two buses. They’ll have to negotiate to move around each other so if you have many (which, as I told you a lot, you shouldn’t) you should consider a one-way road, or maybe a meeting bay, or a wider street with choke points, or whatever. But it’s not “blocking the road for buses”.
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          > Schools have more than one bus and they have to pass each other.\n
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          No they don’t they can enter from the same side. You’re just looking for excuses. Also why do you need buses in the first place why aren’t the kids walking or biking.
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          > That’s a main road.\n
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          [No it isn’t](https://dictionary.cambridge.org/de/worterbuch/essential-amerikanisches-englisch/main-road):\n
          \n
          > a large road that goes from one town to another:\n
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          And yes you also see residential buildings on main roads. The reason this is a residential and not main road is due to its size and position away from through-traffic. It’s a road where you have a quick look and then just cross, main roads are of the “eh I can look but I probably need to get to a crossing to get across” territory.\n
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          And no there’s no speed bumps why would there if the road is narrow enough and people naturally drive slow enough, there’s no through traffic, the residents don’t race on it, etc.
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          US suburbia has a higher density than the German countryside, having to travel 24km is nuts. That’d be defensible if you live in a tiny settlement 24km from a place with more than two dozen houses – I’m sure those exist in the US but suburbia isn’t that.\n
          \n
          How many pupils were there at your school? My state has 106240 pupils in 393 primary schools, that’s an average of 270. Minimum size under ordinary circumstances is 80, the smallest is on Nordstrandischmoor: An island, 18 inhabitants, five families, one school, one teacher, two students, [here it is](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.5518864,8.8108853,16z?entry=ttu). That’s because we don’t do boarding in primary education so there’s a maximum tolerable commute time/distance, once those kids are old enough they’ll spend Monday through Friday on the mainland.\n
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          If your system insists that a school have at least 2k students or such then, yes, of course, walking to school will be an impossibility for most. Fix your school sizes and like 99% of students will be able to walk or bike, use buses or minivans or whatnot for the rest we do that too (not really possible in Nordstrandischmoor, thing doesn’t even have a ferry but a rail link that’s only usable when the tide is low).\n
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          And no it wasn’t my school it was my Kindergarten, which wasn’t, by a long shot, the closest to home it was the one my parents chose. I mentioned it to say that biking 3.5km is something a 4yold can do, physically, without any issue at all really.
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          Let me look at a map… maybe 1km max anywhere in my 30k town to the next primary school and that’s when you’re living on the very very edge of town. Should be under 500m for most pupils.\n
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          If you’re living in a rural area, outside of the next village (which will have a school), which is an absolute exception as things tend to cluster into villages in rural areas, it might be 5km. Not really an issue with a bike, I biked what 3.5km to Kindergarten (together with my mom). If you have less density than that you probably should have boarding schools.\n
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          For secondary education, if you’re living in a village you’ll probably have to take the bus to the nearest city. Regular public transport though the schedule will take school times into account. Yes, kids can walk 500m to the nearest station.\n
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          Bonus: All that school density – smaller but way more of them – means that there’s obvious places to hold elections as there’s a municipality-owned place in Sunday stroll distance to pretty much everywhere. The only downside are the ludicrously low tables.
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          > A block in the US doesn’t mean a square either.\n
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          Yes, great, blame a non native speaker for expressing himself incorrectly, correcting himself, and then quadruple down on it. I was thinking of unprioritised NY-style blocks you see all over the place in US cities, gridlock magnets. You know, places where people say “down the block” and generally measure distances in blocks.\n
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          > It is required that children do not cross two lane roads to be picked up by school buses. I don’t make the rules. I don’t have a solution to US car culture. But making roads unpassable by school buses isn’t an answer.\n
          \n
          If you look back at that Hamburg link, at those streets internal to the superblock, you’ll notice that they *are* wide enough for buses to go through. There’s no regular bus lines through there (there’s two metro stations and plenty of bus stops surrounding it) but a school bus isn’t regular service, it doesn’t need to play by the same rules. You can make a pickup at one of those very spacious intersections. It’s not being done because there’s schools in walking distance and German kids can cross roads but it *could* be done. Would you, however, ever speed on those roads.
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          Things aren’t done differently, in principle, in villages. You were the one brining up blocks or did you mean “buildings surrounded by roads *and fields*”.\n
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          [This is Wacken](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.0275469,9.3755654,169m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) (*the* Wacken), I zoomed you in on the primary school. There’s surrounding villages without school so it’s bound to get bus traffic. Note how it’s on a street that’s wide enough for that, but not the main road, the one with all the through-traffic. Can you understand that principle. (Main Roads, actually, Wacken has two, Schenefelder and Hauptstraße).\n
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          > I only took issue with the ridiculous idea that the roads in front of rural US schools could be made safer by making them impassable by busses.\n
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          Noone ever said that? At least I didn’t.
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          > You have one bus going in one direction to a school passing another bus going to another school.\n
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          In front of a school? Are your schools connected directly to highways or something?\n
          \n
          > Have you only lived in an inner city where roads can be one way because they alternate in direction every block?\n
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          We don’t have blocks.
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          > Grundschule Niederstotzingen\n
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          [That’s not on a main road](https://www.google.com/maps/place/Grundschule+Niederstotzingen/@48.5416064,10.2369723,16.33z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x479946d4d21d8af1:0x28d0eb80cb17df7f!8m2!3d48.54188!4d10.23954!16s%2Fg%2F1tgfvlcm?entry=ttu). Zoom out a bit, the main roads are the ones leading to other villages, named after those villages (or in the case of Ulm a city in that direction).\n
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          > Grundschule Pfaffenhofen\n
          \n
          [neither](https://www.google.com/maps/place/Grundschule+Pfaffenhofen/@49.0620402,8.9749824,16.67z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x410b8f8ce5cb2efb:0x31c87e2000d06919!8m2!3d49.06201!4d8.97686!16s%2Fg%2F1tdqmls_?entry=ttu)\n
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          Didn’t check the rest\n
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          > Just like US schools, many have their own driveway that goes off the main road\n
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          Those are residential roads. [This a view of the Niederstotzingen school from the road it’s on](https://www.google.com/maps/@48.542406,10.2389314,3a,60y,119.92h,81.99t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sW-TbbzDmkVz_-XMnR0tqYg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu), the gymnasium is on the other side. Look up and down the road, there’s residential buildings there. Looking at the signage (or rather lack thereof), it’s two-way. No lane markings though small roads just don’t have them, you slow down and make sure to not shear off your side mirrors with the side mirrors of oncoming traffic. The little shack with a sign with an H is a bus stop. Only seems to be served by one bus line (at least I can’t find more), [here’s the schelude](https://www.ding.eu/fileadmin/content/downloads/ics/20230421-DING-EVG-Streik-RAB-Bus/593-Streik-RAB-Fahrten.pdf). It connects to two train stations (including thie Niederstotzingen one) roughly every 30 minutes. Frankly speaking you can walk from there you’ll be faster than waiting for the next bus.\n
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          Niederstotzingen is classed as a city btw, almost 5k inhabitants. It’s not really a size thing in Germany though and nowadays the title doesn’t have any legal meaning, city rights were granted by Kaiser Sigismund in 1430, meaning it served as the local trade hub or such. Congratulations, thanks to wikipedia I know now more about a tiny city I don’t care about in a state I don’t care for :)
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          > Cost. That separate road means buying land from someone and turning it into road. Do they have one way roads for rural schools in Germany? Because I looked at a few Grundschule in Bavaria on Google maps and didn’t see any.\n
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          You’ll have a hard time finding a village with *literally* one single road. Certainly not one 1-2k which is the size that gets the school for the surrounding ones.\n
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          > It is cheaper and more convenient to have a speed camera that is active only during school hours.\n
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          And also completely ineffective at preventing anything.Heck at least use road bumps. Narrow the road only in spots so that two monster trucks if you please fit on comfortably side by side for 50-100m or such, but then it narrows down to half that for just 5m. While you’re at it build a crossing there, narrowing the roads at pedestrian crossing is standard practice in many places and it makes a hell a lot of sense. Yes, that slows down traffic because you might have to negotiate with oncoming traffic who goes first. Yes, that’s precisely the point.
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    > Roads are typically 2 lanes one in each direction. You already know this because you said a solution would be to remove the lane marker.\n
    \n
    I’m someone else.\n
    \n
    > So you have a road with an elementary school, and 2 miles further down is a middle school. Even without that you have buses passing each other during pickup because busses only pickup kids on one side of the street so you don’t have young kids crossing roads.\n
    \n
    Lots of questions here: Why can’t kids walk 500m to the next bus stop? Why are streets so unsafe so that kids can’t cross them?\n
    \n
    Why assume that there’s no larger road in between those smaller roads? Roads generally form a hierarchy, you have big ones feeding into middle ones feeding into small ones. Small ones should absolutely be safe to cross, also without explicit crossings, because they’re traffic calmed and don’t have much traffic in the first place. That’s where houses and schools are, where there’s no through-traffic because even if they aren’t cul de sacs who would drive through a road you can’t drive fast on when there’s a mid-level road that you could take.\n
    \n
    > What do you call a section of inner city bounded on all sides by a road in your country?\n
    \n
    Straßenblock. Let me put it differently: We don’t have grids and nothing is regular. [This is about as grid-y as it gets](https://www.google.com/maps/@53.5753832,9.9851206,1090m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) and if you zoom in you’ll notice that the interior streets have no lane markers and some even are cobbled. Those connect to a street ( south, Hallerstraße) with bike lanes (don’t need those on smaller streets because there’s not enough traffic to warrant them), which connects to a four-lane (plus bus lane) street, Grindelalle, west. The intersection looks a bit crazy but it’s actually safe for pedestrians and you should’ve learned how to cross streets safely and what traffic lights are in Kindergarten. You’ve also been there with your parents (going shopping or whatever) a lot of times, nothing scary really. That kind of density and housing is probably illegal to build where you are (it’s illegal pretty much everywhere in the US and Canada).\n
    \n
    And mind you Hamburg is awful when it comes to urbanism, way too car-centric. Not because of lack of public transport but because politicians are unwilling to kill off car traffic and the whole city is full of rich fucks with too much disposable income.
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      EDIT: since apparently a bunch of people woke up with the wrong foot this morning or forgot to check the group they’re in:\n
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      This is a joke. Do not steal or vandalize speed enforcement cameras (or anything else for that matter). That’s against the law and you will likely get arrested.\n
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      If you’re addicted to crack or any other drugs, please seek professional help.
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          Why can’t you have one-way streets in a rural area? Fork off the main street on one end, merge on the other. Pedestrian and bicycle traffic can be bidirectional, cars can take a little detour they don’t use muscle energy.\n
          \n
          > > Wide enough for one pickup and no opposing traffic, but so narrow that two pickups are going to really have to negotiate to move around each other."\n
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          How does that translate to "block the street for buses? If a street fits two pickups it fits two buses. They’ll have to negotiate to move around each other so if you have many (which, as I told you a lot, you shouldn’t) you should consider a one-way road, or maybe a meeting bay, or a wider street with choke points, or whatever. But it’s not “blocking the road for buses”.
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          > Schools have more than one bus and they have to pass each other.\n
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          No they don’t they can enter from the same side. You’re just looking for excuses. Also why do you need buses in the first place why aren’t the kids walking or biking.
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          > That’s a main road.\n
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          [No it isn’t](https://dictionary.cambridge.org/de/worterbuch/essential-amerikanisches-englisch/main-road):\n
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          > a large road that goes from one town to another:\n
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          And yes you also see residential buildings on main roads. The reason this is a residential and not main road is due to its size and position away from through-traffic. It’s a road where you have a quick look and then just cross, main roads are of the “eh I can look but I probably need to get to a crossing to get across” territory.\n
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          And no there’s no speed bumps why would there if the road is narrow enough and people naturally drive slow enough, there’s no through traffic, the residents don’t race on it, etc.
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          US suburbia has a higher density than the German countryside, having to travel 24km is nuts. That’d be defensible if you live in a tiny settlement 24km from a place with more than two dozen houses – I’m sure those exist in the US but suburbia isn’t that.\n
          \n
          How many pupils were there at your school? My state has 106240 pupils in 393 primary schools, that’s an average of 270. Minimum size under ordinary circumstances is 80, the smallest is on Nordstrandischmoor: An island, 18 inhabitants, five families, one school, one teacher, two students, [here it is](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.5518864,8.8108853,16z?entry=ttu). That’s because we don’t do boarding in primary education so there’s a maximum tolerable commute time/distance, once those kids are old enough they’ll spend Monday through Friday on the mainland.\n
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          If your system insists that a school have at least 2k students or such then, yes, of course, walking to school will be an impossibility for most. Fix your school sizes and like 99% of students will be able to walk or bike, use buses or minivans or whatnot for the rest we do that too (not really possible in Nordstrandischmoor, thing doesn’t even have a ferry but a rail link that’s only usable when the tide is low).\n
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          And no it wasn’t my school it was my Kindergarten, which wasn’t, by a long shot, the closest to home it was the one my parents chose. I mentioned it to say that biking 3.5km is something a 4yold can do, physically, without any issue at all really.
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          Let me look at a map… maybe 1km max anywhere in my 30k town to the next primary school and that’s when you’re living on the very very edge of town. Should be under 500m for most pupils.\n
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          If you’re living in a rural area, outside of the next village (which will have a school), which is an absolute exception as things tend to cluster into villages in rural areas, it might be 5km. Not really an issue with a bike, I biked what 3.5km to Kindergarten (together with my mom). If you have less density than that you probably should have boarding schools.\n
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          For secondary education, if you’re living in a village you’ll probably have to take the bus to the nearest city. Regular public transport though the schedule will take school times into account. Yes, kids can walk 500m to the nearest station.\n
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          Bonus: All that school density – smaller but way more of them – means that there’s obvious places to hold elections as there’s a municipality-owned place in Sunday stroll distance to pretty much everywhere. The only downside are the ludicrously low tables.
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          > A block in the US doesn’t mean a square either.\n
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          Yes, great, blame a non native speaker for expressing himself incorrectly, correcting himself, and then quadruple down on it. I was thinking of unprioritised NY-style blocks you see all over the place in US cities, gridlock magnets. You know, places where people say “down the block” and generally measure distances in blocks.\n
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          > It is required that children do not cross two lane roads to be picked up by school buses. I don’t make the rules. I don’t have a solution to US car culture. But making roads unpassable by school buses isn’t an answer.\n
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          If you look back at that Hamburg link, at those streets internal to the superblock, you’ll notice that they *are* wide enough for buses to go through. There’s no regular bus lines through there (there’s two metro stations and plenty of bus stops surrounding it) but a school bus isn’t regular service, it doesn’t need to play by the same rules. You can make a pickup at one of those very spacious intersections. It’s not being done because there’s schools in walking distance and German kids can cross roads but it *could* be done. Would you, however, ever speed on those roads.
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          Things aren’t done differently, in principle, in villages. You were the one brining up blocks or did you mean “buildings surrounded by roads *and fields*”.\n
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          [This is Wacken](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.0275469,9.3755654,169m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) (*the* Wacken), I zoomed you in on the primary school. There’s surrounding villages without school so it’s bound to get bus traffic. Note how it’s on a street that’s wide enough for that, but not the main road, the one with all the through-traffic. Can you understand that principle. (Main Roads, actually, Wacken has two, Schenefelder and Hauptstraße).\n
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          > I only took issue with the ridiculous idea that the roads in front of rural US schools could be made safer by making them impassable by busses.\n
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          Noone ever said that? At least I didn’t.
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          > You have one bus going in one direction to a school passing another bus going to another school.\n
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          In front of a school? Are your schools connected directly to highways or something?\n
          \n
          > Have you only lived in an inner city where roads can be one way because they alternate in direction every block?\n
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          We don’t have blocks.
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          > Grundschule Niederstotzingen\n
          \n
          [That’s not on a main road](https://www.google.com/maps/place/Grundschule+Niederstotzingen/@48.5416064,10.2369723,16.33z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x479946d4d21d8af1:0x28d0eb80cb17df7f!8m2!3d48.54188!4d10.23954!16s%2Fg%2F1tgfvlcm?entry=ttu). Zoom out a bit, the main roads are the ones leading to other villages, named after those villages (or in the case of Ulm a city in that direction).\n
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          > Grundschule Pfaffenhofen\n
          \n
          [neither](https://www.google.com/maps/place/Grundschule+Pfaffenhofen/@49.0620402,8.9749824,16.67z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x410b8f8ce5cb2efb:0x31c87e2000d06919!8m2!3d49.06201!4d8.97686!16s%2Fg%2F1tdqmls_?entry=ttu)\n
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          Didn’t check the rest\n
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          > Just like US schools, many have their own driveway that goes off the main road\n
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          Those are residential roads. [This a view of the Niederstotzingen school from the road it’s on](https://www.google.com/maps/@48.542406,10.2389314,3a,60y,119.92h,81.99t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sW-TbbzDmkVz_-XMnR0tqYg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu), the gymnasium is on the other side. Look up and down the road, there’s residential buildings there. Looking at the signage (or rather lack thereof), it’s two-way. No lane markings though small roads just don’t have them, you slow down and make sure to not shear off your side mirrors with the side mirrors of oncoming traffic. The little shack with a sign with an H is a bus stop. Only seems to be served by one bus line (at least I can’t find more), [here’s the schelude](https://www.ding.eu/fileadmin/content/downloads/ics/20230421-DING-EVG-Streik-RAB-Bus/593-Streik-RAB-Fahrten.pdf). It connects to two train stations (including thie Niederstotzingen one) roughly every 30 minutes. Frankly speaking you can walk from there you’ll be faster than waiting for the next bus.\n
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          Niederstotzingen is classed as a city btw, almost 5k inhabitants. It’s not really a size thing in Germany though and nowadays the title doesn’t have any legal meaning, city rights were granted by Kaiser Sigismund in 1430, meaning it served as the local trade hub or such. Congratulations, thanks to wikipedia I know now more about a tiny city I don’t care about in a state I don’t care for :)
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          > Cost. That separate road means buying land from someone and turning it into road. Do they have one way roads for rural schools in Germany? Because I looked at a few Grundschule in Bavaria on Google maps and didn’t see any.\n
          \n
          You’ll have a hard time finding a village with *literally* one single road. Certainly not one 1-2k which is the size that gets the school for the surrounding ones.\n
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          > It is cheaper and more convenient to have a speed camera that is active only during school hours.\n
          \n
          And also completely ineffective at preventing anything.Heck at least use road bumps. Narrow the road only in spots so that two monster trucks if you please fit on comfortably side by side for 50-100m or such, but then it narrows down to half that for just 5m. While you’re at it build a crossing there, narrowing the roads at pedestrian crossing is standard practice in many places and it makes a hell a lot of sense. Yes, that slows down traffic because you might have to negotiate with oncoming traffic who goes first. Yes, that’s precisely the point.
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    > Roads are typically 2 lanes one in each direction. You already know this because you said a solution would be to remove the lane marker.\n
    \n
    I’m someone else.\n
    \n
    > So you have a road with an elementary school, and 2 miles further down is a middle school. Even without that you have buses passing each other during pickup because busses only pickup kids on one side of the street so you don’t have young kids crossing roads.\n
    \n
    Lots of questions here: Why can’t kids walk 500m to the next bus stop? Why are streets so unsafe so that kids can’t cross them?\n
    \n
    Why assume that there’s no larger road in between those smaller roads? Roads generally form a hierarchy, you have big ones feeding into middle ones feeding into small ones. Small ones should absolutely be safe to cross, also without explicit crossings, because they’re traffic calmed and don’t have much traffic in the first place. That’s where houses and schools are, where there’s no through-traffic because even if they aren’t cul de sacs who would drive through a road you can’t drive fast on when there’s a mid-level road that you could take.\n
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    > What do you call a section of inner city bounded on all sides by a road in your country?\n
    \n
    Straßenblock. Let me put it differently: We don’t have grids and nothing is regular. [This is about as grid-y as it gets](https://www.google.com/maps/@53.5753832,9.9851206,1090m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) and if you zoom in you’ll notice that the interior streets have no lane markers and some even are cobbled. Those connect to a street ( south, Hallerstraße) with bike lanes (don’t need those on smaller streets because there’s not enough traffic to warrant them), which connects to a four-lane (plus bus lane) street, Grindelalle, west. The intersection looks a bit crazy but it’s actually safe for pedestrians and you should’ve learned how to cross streets safely and what traffic lights are in Kindergarten. You’ve also been there with your parents (going shopping or whatever) a lot of times, nothing scary really. That kind of density and housing is probably illegal to build where you are (it’s illegal pretty much everywhere in the US and Canada).\n
    \n
    And mind you Hamburg is awful when it comes to urbanism, way too car-centric. Not because of lack of public transport but because politicians are unwilling to kill off car traffic and the whole city is full of rich fucks with too much disposable income.
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      EDIT: since apparently a bunch of people woke up with the wrong foot this morning or forgot to check the group they’re in:\n
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      This is a joke. Do not steal or vandalize speed enforcement cameras (or anything else for that matter). That’s against the law and you will likely get arrested.\n
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      If you’re addicted to crack or any other drugs, please seek professional help.
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          Why can’t you have one-way streets in a rural area? Fork off the main street on one end, merge on the other. Pedestrian and bicycle traffic can be bidirectional, cars can take a little detour they don’t use muscle energy.\n
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          > > Wide enough for one pickup and no opposing traffic, but so narrow that two pickups are going to really have to negotiate to move around each other."\n
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          How does that translate to "block the street for buses? If a street fits two pickups it fits two buses. They’ll have to negotiate to move around each other so if you have many (which, as I told you a lot, you shouldn’t) you should consider a one-way road, or maybe a meeting bay, or a wider street with choke points, or whatever. But it’s not “blocking the road for buses”.
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          > Schools have more than one bus and they have to pass each other.\n
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          No they don’t they can enter from the same side. You’re just looking for excuses. Also why do you need buses in the first place why aren’t the kids walking or biking.
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          > That’s a main road.\n
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          [No it isn’t](https://dictionary.cambridge.org/de/worterbuch/essential-amerikanisches-englisch/main-road):\n
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          > a large road that goes from one town to another:\n
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          And yes you also see residential buildings on main roads. The reason this is a residential and not main road is due to its size and position away from through-traffic. It’s a road where you have a quick look and then just cross, main roads are of the “eh I can look but I probably need to get to a crossing to get across” territory.\n
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          US suburbia has a higher density than the German countryside, having to travel 24km is nuts. That’d be defensible if you live in a tiny settlement 24km from a place with more than two dozen houses – I’m sure those exist in the US but suburbia isn’t that.\n
          \n
          How many pupils were there at your school? My state has 106240 pupils in 393 primary schools, that’s an average of 270. Minimum size under ordinary circumstances is 80, the smallest is on Nordstrandischmoor: An island, 18 inhabitants, five families, one school, one teacher, two students, [here it is](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.5518864,8.8108853,16z?entry=ttu). That’s because we don’t do boarding in primary education so there’s a maximum tolerable commute time/distance, once those kids are old enough they’ll spend Monday through Friday on the mainland.\n
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          If your system insists that a school have at least 2k students or such then, yes, of course, walking to school will be an impossibility for most. Fix your school sizes and like 99% of students will be able to walk or bike, use buses or minivans or whatnot for the rest we do that too (not really possible in Nordstrandischmoor, thing doesn’t even have a ferry but a rail link that’s only usable when the tide is low).\n
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          And no it wasn’t my school it was my Kindergarten, which wasn’t, by a long shot, the closest to home it was the one my parents chose. I mentioned it to say that biking 3.5km is something a 4yold can do, physically, without any issue at all really.
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          Let me look at a map… maybe 1km max anywhere in my 30k town to the next primary school and that’s when you’re living on the very very edge of town. Should be under 500m for most pupils.\n
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          If you’re living in a rural area, outside of the next village (which will have a school), which is an absolute exception as things tend to cluster into villages in rural areas, it might be 5km. Not really an issue with a bike, I biked what 3.5km to Kindergarten (together with my mom). If you have less density than that you probably should have boarding schools.\n
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          For secondary education, if you’re living in a village you’ll probably have to take the bus to the nearest city. Regular public transport though the schedule will take school times into account. Yes, kids can walk 500m to the nearest station.\n
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          Bonus: All that school density – smaller but way more of them – means that there’s obvious places to hold elections as there’s a municipality-owned place in Sunday stroll distance to pretty much everywhere. The only downside are the ludicrously low tables.
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          > A block in the US doesn’t mean a square either.\n
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          Yes, great, blame a non native speaker for expressing himself incorrectly, correcting himself, and then quadruple down on it. I was thinking of unprioritised NY-style blocks you see all over the place in US cities, gridlock magnets. You know, places where people say “down the block” and generally measure distances in blocks.\n
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          > It is required that children do not cross two lane roads to be picked up by school buses. I don’t make the rules. I don’t have a solution to US car culture. But making roads unpassable by school buses isn’t an answer.\n
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          If you look back at that Hamburg link, at those streets internal to the superblock, you’ll notice that they *are* wide enough for buses to go through. There’s no regular bus lines through there (there’s two metro stations and plenty of bus stops surrounding it) but a school bus isn’t regular service, it doesn’t need to play by the same rules. You can make a pickup at one of those very spacious intersections. It’s not being done because there’s schools in walking distance and German kids can cross roads but it *could* be done. Would you, however, ever speed on those roads.
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          Things aren’t done differently, in principle, in villages. You were the one brining up blocks or did you mean “buildings surrounded by roads *and fields*”.\n
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          [This is Wacken](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.0275469,9.3755654,169m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) (*the* Wacken), I zoomed you in on the primary school. There’s surrounding villages without school so it’s bound to get bus traffic. Note how it’s on a street that’s wide enough for that, but not the main road, the one with all the through-traffic. Can you understand that principle. (Main Roads, actually, Wacken has two, Schenefelder and Hauptstraße).\n
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          > I only took issue with the ridiculous idea that the roads in front of rural US schools could be made safer by making them impassable by busses.\n
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          Noone ever said that? At least I didn’t.
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          > You have one bus going in one direction to a school passing another bus going to another school.\n
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          In front of a school? Are your schools connected directly to highways or something?\n
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          > Have you only lived in an inner city where roads can be one way because they alternate in direction every block?\n
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          We don’t have blocks.
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          > Grundschule Niederstotzingen\n
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          [That’s not on a main road](https://www.google.com/maps/place/Grundschule+Niederstotzingen/@48.5416064,10.2369723,16.33z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x479946d4d21d8af1:0x28d0eb80cb17df7f!8m2!3d48.54188!4d10.23954!16s%2Fg%2F1tgfvlcm?entry=ttu). Zoom out a bit, the main roads are the ones leading to other villages, named after those villages (or in the case of Ulm a city in that direction).\n
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          > Grundschule Pfaffenhofen\n
          \n
          [neither](https://www.google.com/maps/place/Grundschule+Pfaffenhofen/@49.0620402,8.9749824,16.67z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x410b8f8ce5cb2efb:0x31c87e2000d06919!8m2!3d49.06201!4d8.97686!16s%2Fg%2F1tdqmls_?entry=ttu)\n
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          Didn’t check the rest\n
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          > Just like US schools, many have their own driveway that goes off the main road\n
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          Those are residential roads. [This a view of the Niederstotzingen school from the road it’s on](https://www.google.com/maps/@48.542406,10.2389314,3a,60y,119.92h,81.99t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sW-TbbzDmkVz_-XMnR0tqYg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu), the gymnasium is on the other side. Look up and down the road, there’s residential buildings there. Looking at the signage (or rather lack thereof), it’s two-way. No lane markings though small roads just don’t have them, you slow down and make sure to not shear off your side mirrors with the side mirrors of oncoming traffic. The little shack with a sign with an H is a bus stop. Only seems to be served by one bus line (at least I can’t find more), [here’s the schelude](https://www.ding.eu/fileadmin/content/downloads/ics/20230421-DING-EVG-Streik-RAB-Bus/593-Streik-RAB-Fahrten.pdf). It connects to two train stations (including thie Niederstotzingen one) roughly every 30 minutes. Frankly speaking you can walk from there you’ll be faster than waiting for the next bus.\n
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          Niederstotzingen is classed as a city btw, almost 5k inhabitants. It’s not really a size thing in Germany though and nowadays the title doesn’t have any legal meaning, city rights were granted by Kaiser Sigismund in 1430, meaning it served as the local trade hub or such. Congratulations, thanks to wikipedia I know now more about a tiny city I don’t care about in a state I don’t care for :)
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          > Cost. That separate road means buying land from someone and turning it into road. Do they have one way roads for rural schools in Germany? Because I looked at a few Grundschule in Bavaria on Google maps and didn’t see any.\n
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          You’ll have a hard time finding a village with *literally* one single road. Certainly not one 1-2k which is the size that gets the school for the surrounding ones.\n
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          > It is cheaper and more convenient to have a speed camera that is active only during school hours.\n
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          And also completely ineffective at preventing anything.Heck at least use road bumps. Narrow the road only in spots so that two monster trucks if you please fit on comfortably side by side for 50-100m or such, but then it narrows down to half that for just 5m. While you’re at it build a crossing there, narrowing the roads at pedestrian crossing is standard practice in many places and it makes a hell a lot of sense. Yes, that slows down traffic because you might have to negotiate with oncoming traffic who goes first. Yes, that’s precisely the point.
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    > Roads are typically 2 lanes one in each direction. You already know this because you said a solution would be to remove the lane marker.\n
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    I’m someone else.\n
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    > So you have a road with an elementary school, and 2 miles further down is a middle school. Even without that you have buses passing each other during pickup because busses only pickup kids on one side of the street so you don’t have young kids crossing roads.\n
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    Lots of questions here: Why can’t kids walk 500m to the next bus stop? Why are streets so unsafe so that kids can’t cross them?\n
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    Why assume that there’s no larger road in between those smaller roads? Roads generally form a hierarchy, you have big ones feeding into middle ones feeding into small ones. Small ones should absolutely be safe to cross, also without explicit crossings, because they’re traffic calmed and don’t have much traffic in the first place. That’s where houses and schools are, where there’s no through-traffic because even if they aren’t cul de sacs who would drive through a road you can’t drive fast on when there’s a mid-level road that you could take.\n
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    Straßenblock. Let me put it differently: We don’t have grids and nothing is regular. [This is about as grid-y as it gets](https://www.google.com/maps/@53.5753832,9.9851206,1090m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) and if you zoom in you’ll notice that the interior streets have no lane markers and some even are cobbled. Those connect to a street ( south, Hallerstraße) with bike lanes (don’t need those on smaller streets because there’s not enough traffic to warrant them), which connects to a four-lane (plus bus lane) street, Grindelalle, west. The intersection looks a bit crazy but it’s actually safe for pedestrians and you should’ve learned how to cross streets safely and what traffic lights are in Kindergarten. You’ve also been there with your parents (going shopping or whatever) a lot of times, nothing scary really. That kind of density and housing is probably illegal to build where you are (it’s illegal pretty much everywhere in the US and Canada).\n
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    And mind you Hamburg is awful when it comes to urbanism, way too car-centric. Not because of lack of public transport but because politicians are unwilling to kill off car traffic and the whole city is full of rich fucks with too much disposable income.
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          Why can’t you have one-way streets in a rural area? Fork off the main street on one end, merge on the other. Pedestrian and bicycle traffic can be bidirectional, cars can take a little detour they don’t use muscle energy.\n
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          > That’s a main road.\n
          \n
          [No it isn’t](https://dictionary.cambridge.org/de/worterbuch/essential-amerikanisches-englisch/main-road):\n
          \n
          > a large road that goes from one town to another:\n
          \n
          And yes you also see residential buildings on main roads. The reason this is a residential and not main road is due to its size and position away from through-traffic. It’s a road where you have a quick look and then just cross, main roads are of the “eh I can look but I probably need to get to a crossing to get across” territory.\n
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          And no there’s no speed bumps why would there if the road is narrow enough and people naturally drive slow enough, there’s no through traffic, the residents don’t race on it, etc.
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          US suburbia has a higher density than the German countryside, having to travel 24km is nuts. That’d be defensible if you live in a tiny settlement 24km from a place with more than two dozen houses – I’m sure those exist in the US but suburbia isn’t that.\n
          \n
          How many pupils were there at your school? My state has 106240 pupils in 393 primary schools, that’s an average of 270. Minimum size under ordinary circumstances is 80, the smallest is on Nordstrandischmoor: An island, 18 inhabitants, five families, one school, one teacher, two students, [here it is](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.5518864,8.8108853,16z?entry=ttu). That’s because we don’t do boarding in primary education so there’s a maximum tolerable commute time/distance, once those kids are old enough they’ll spend Monday through Friday on the mainland.\n
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          If your system insists that a school have at least 2k students or such then, yes, of course, walking to school will be an impossibility for most. Fix your school sizes and like 99% of students will be able to walk or bike, use buses or minivans or whatnot for the rest we do that too (not really possible in Nordstrandischmoor, thing doesn’t even have a ferry but a rail link that’s only usable when the tide is low).\n
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          And no it wasn’t my school it was my Kindergarten, which wasn’t, by a long shot, the closest to home it was the one my parents chose. I mentioned it to say that biking 3.5km is something a 4yold can do, physically, without any issue at all really.
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          > Roads are typically 2 lanes one in each direction. You already know this because you said a solution would be to remove the lane marker.\n
          \n
          I’m someone else.\n
          \n
          > So you have a road with an elementary school, and 2 miles further down is a middle school. Even without that you have buses passing each other during pickup because busses only pickup kids on one side of the street so you don’t have young kids crossing roads.\n
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          Lots of questions here: Why can’t kids walk 500m to the next bus stop? Why are streets so unsafe so that kids can’t cross them?\n
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          Why assume that there’s no larger road in between those smaller roads? Roads generally form a hierarchy, you have big ones feeding into middle ones feeding into small ones. Small ones should absolutely be safe to cross, also without explicit crossings, because they’re traffic calmed and don’t have much traffic in the first place. That’s where houses and schools are, where there’s no through-traffic because even if they aren’t cul de sacs who would drive through a road you can’t drive fast on when there’s a mid-level road that you could take.\n
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          > What do you call a section of inner city bounded on all sides by a road in your country?\n
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          Straßenblock. Let me put it differently: We don’t have grids and nothing is regular. [This is about as grid-y as it gets](https://www.google.com/maps/@53.5753832,9.9851206,1090m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) and if you zoom in you’ll notice that the interior streets have no lane markers and some even are cobbled. Those connect to a street ( south, Hallerstraße) with bike lanes (don’t need those on smaller streets because there’s not enough traffic to warrant them), which connects to a four-lane (plus bus lane) street, Grindelalle, west. The intersection looks a bit crazy but it’s actually safe for pedestrians and you should’ve learned how to cross streets safely and what traffic lights are in Kindergarten. You’ve also been there with your parents (going shopping or whatever) a lot of times, nothing scary really. That kind of density and housing is probably illegal to build where you are (it’s illegal pretty much everywhere in the US and Canada).\n
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          And mind you Hamburg is awful when it comes to urbanism, way too car-centric. Not because of lack of public transport but because politicians are unwilling to kill off car traffic and the whole city is full of rich fucks with too much disposable income.
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          > A block in the US doesn’t mean a square either.\n
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          Yes, great, blame a non native speaker for expressing himself incorrectly, correcting himself, and then quadruple down on it. I was thinking of unprioritised NY-style blocks you see all over the place in US cities, gridlock magnets. You know, places where people say “down the block” and generally measure distances in blocks.\n
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          > It is required that children do not cross two lane roads to be picked up by school buses. I don’t make the rules. I don’t have a solution to US car culture. But making roads unpassable by school buses isn’t an answer.\n
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          If you look back at that Hamburg link, at those streets internal to the superblock, you’ll notice that they *are* wide enough for buses to go through. There’s no regular bus lines through there (there’s two metro stations and plenty of bus stops surrounding it) but a school bus isn’t regular service, it doesn’t need to play by the same rules. You can make a pickup at one of those very spacious intersections. It’s not being done because there’s schools in walking distance and German kids can cross roads but it *could* be done. Would you, however, ever speed on those roads.
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          Things aren’t done differently, in principle, in villages. You were the one brining up blocks or did you mean “buildings surrounded by roads *and fields*”.\n
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          [This is Wacken](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.0275469,9.3755654,169m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) (*the* Wacken), I zoomed you in on the primary school. There’s surrounding villages without school so it’s bound to get bus traffic. Note how it’s on a street that’s wide enough for that, but not the main road, the one with all the through-traffic. Can you understand that principle. (Main Roads, actually, Wacken has two, Schenefelder and Hauptstraße).\n
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          > I only took issue with the ridiculous idea that the roads in front of rural US schools could be made safer by making them impassable by busses.\n
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          Noone ever said that? At least I didn’t.
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          > You have one bus going in one direction to a school passing another bus going to another school.\n
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          In front of a school? Are your schools connected directly to highways or something?\n
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          > Have you only lived in an inner city where roads can be one way because they alternate in direction every block?\n
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          We don’t have blocks.
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          > Grundschule Niederstotzingen\n
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          [That’s not on a main road](https://www.google.com/maps/place/Grundschule+Niederstotzingen/@48.5416064,10.2369723,16.33z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x479946d4d21d8af1:0x28d0eb80cb17df7f!8m2!3d48.54188!4d10.23954!16s%2Fg%2F1tgfvlcm?entry=ttu). Zoom out a bit, the main roads are the ones leading to other villages, named after those villages (or in the case of Ulm a city in that direction).\n
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          > Grundschule Pfaffenhofen\n
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          [neither](https://www.google.com/maps/place/Grundschule+Pfaffenhofen/@49.0620402,8.9749824,16.67z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x410b8f8ce5cb2efb:0x31c87e2000d06919!8m2!3d49.06201!4d8.97686!16s%2Fg%2F1tdqmls_?entry=ttu)\n
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          Didn’t check the rest\n
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          > Just like US schools, many have their own driveway that goes off the main road\n
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          Those are residential roads. [This a view of the Niederstotzingen school from the road it’s on](https://www.google.com/maps/@48.542406,10.2389314,3a,60y,119.92h,81.99t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sW-TbbzDmkVz_-XMnR0tqYg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu), the gymnasium is on the other side. Look up and down the road, there’s residential buildings there. Looking at the signage (or rather lack thereof), it’s two-way. No lane markings though small roads just don’t have them, you slow down and make sure to not shear off your side mirrors with the side mirrors of oncoming traffic. The little shack with a sign with an H is a bus stop. Only seems to be served by one bus line (at least I can’t find more), [here’s the schelude](https://www.ding.eu/fileadmin/content/downloads/ics/20230421-DING-EVG-Streik-RAB-Bus/593-Streik-RAB-Fahrten.pdf). It connects to two train stations (including thie Niederstotzingen one) roughly every 30 minutes. Frankly speaking you can walk from there you’ll be faster than waiting for the next bus.\n
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          Niederstotzingen is classed as a city btw, almost 5k inhabitants. It’s not really a size thing in Germany though and nowadays the title doesn’t have any legal meaning, city rights were granted by Kaiser Sigismund in 1430, meaning it served as the local trade hub or such. Congratulations, thanks to wikipedia I know now more about a tiny city I don’t care about in a state I don’t care for :)
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          > Cost. That separate road means buying land from someone and turning it into road. Do they have one way roads for rural schools in Germany? Because I looked at a few Grundschule in Bavaria on Google maps and didn’t see any.\n
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          You’ll have a hard time finding a village with *literally* one single road. Certainly not one 1-2k which is the size that gets the school for the surrounding ones.\n
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          > It is cheaper and more convenient to have a speed camera that is active only during school hours.\n
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          And also completely ineffective at preventing anything.Heck at least use road bumps. Narrow the road only in spots so that two monster trucks if you please fit on comfortably side by side for 50-100m or such, but then it narrows down to half that for just 5m. While you’re at it build a crossing there, narrowing the roads at pedestrian crossing is standard practice in many places and it makes a hell a lot of sense. Yes, that slows down traffic because you might have to negotiate with oncoming traffic who goes first. Yes, that’s precisely the point.
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    Let me look at a map… maybe 1km max anywhere in my 30k town to the next primary school and that’s when you’re living on the very very edge of town. Should be under 500m for most pupils.\n
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    If you’re living in a rural area, outside of the next village (which will have a school), which is an absolute exception as things tend to cluster into villages in rural areas, it might be 5km. Not really an issue with a bike, I biked what 3.5km to Kindergarten (together with my mom). If you have less density than that you probably should have boarding schools.\n
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    For secondary education, if you’re living in a village you’ll probably have to take the bus to the nearest city. Regular public transport though the schedule will take school times into account. Yes, kids can walk 500m to the nearest station.\n
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    Bonus: All that school density – smaller but way more of them – means that there’s obvious places to hold elections as there’s a municipality-owned place in Sunday stroll distance to pretty much everywhere. The only downside are the ludicrously low tables.
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          Why can’t you have one-way streets in a rural area? Fork off the main street on one end, merge on the other. Pedestrian and bicycle traffic can be bidirectional, cars can take a little detour they don’t use muscle energy.\n
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          > > Wide enough for one pickup and no opposing traffic, but so narrow that two pickups are going to really have to negotiate to move around each other."\n
          \n
          How does that translate to "block the street for buses? If a street fits two pickups it fits two buses. They’ll have to negotiate to move around each other so if you have many (which, as I told you a lot, you shouldn’t) you should consider a one-way road, or maybe a meeting bay, or a wider street with choke points, or whatever. But it’s not “blocking the road for buses”.
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          > Schools have more than one bus and they have to pass each other.\n
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          No they don’t they can enter from the same side. You’re just looking for excuses. Also why do you need buses in the first place why aren’t the kids walking or biking.
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          > That’s a main road.\n
          \n
          [No it isn’t](https://dictionary.cambridge.org/de/worterbuch/essential-amerikanisches-englisch/main-road):\n
          \n
          > a large road that goes from one town to another:\n
          \n
          And yes you also see residential buildings on main roads. The reason this is a residential and not main road is due to its size and position away from through-traffic. It’s a road where you have a quick look and then just cross, main roads are of the “eh I can look but I probably need to get to a crossing to get across” territory.\n
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          And no there’s no speed bumps why would there if the road is narrow enough and people naturally drive slow enough, there’s no through traffic, the residents don’t race on it, etc.
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          US suburbia has a higher density than the German countryside, having to travel 24km is nuts. That’d be defensible if you live in a tiny settlement 24km from a place with more than two dozen houses – I’m sure those exist in the US but suburbia isn’t that.\n
          \n
          How many pupils were there at your school? My state has 106240 pupils in 393 primary schools, that’s an average of 270. Minimum size under ordinary circumstances is 80, the smallest is on Nordstrandischmoor: An island, 18 inhabitants, five families, one school, one teacher, two students, [here it is](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.5518864,8.8108853,16z?entry=ttu). That’s because we don’t do boarding in primary education so there’s a maximum tolerable commute time/distance, once those kids are old enough they’ll spend Monday through Friday on the mainland.\n
          \n
          If your system insists that a school have at least 2k students or such then, yes, of course, walking to school will be an impossibility for most. Fix your school sizes and like 99% of students will be able to walk or bike, use buses or minivans or whatnot for the rest we do that too (not really possible in Nordstrandischmoor, thing doesn’t even have a ferry but a rail link that’s only usable when the tide is low).\n
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          And no it wasn’t my school it was my Kindergarten, which wasn’t, by a long shot, the closest to home it was the one my parents chose. I mentioned it to say that biking 3.5km is something a 4yold can do, physically, without any issue at all really.
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          > Roads are typically 2 lanes one in each direction. You already know this because you said a solution would be to remove the lane marker.\n
          \n
          I’m someone else.\n
          \n
          > So you have a road with an elementary school, and 2 miles further down is a middle school. Even without that you have buses passing each other during pickup because busses only pickup kids on one side of the street so you don’t have young kids crossing roads.\n
          \n
          Lots of questions here: Why can’t kids walk 500m to the next bus stop? Why are streets so unsafe so that kids can’t cross them?\n
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          Why assume that there’s no larger road in between those smaller roads? Roads generally form a hierarchy, you have big ones feeding into middle ones feeding into small ones. Small ones should absolutely be safe to cross, also without explicit crossings, because they’re traffic calmed and don’t have much traffic in the first place. That’s where houses and schools are, where there’s no through-traffic because even if they aren’t cul de sacs who would drive through a road you can’t drive fast on when there’s a mid-level road that you could take.\n
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          > What do you call a section of inner city bounded on all sides by a road in your country?\n
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          Straßenblock. Let me put it differently: We don’t have grids and nothing is regular. [This is about as grid-y as it gets](https://www.google.com/maps/@53.5753832,9.9851206,1090m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) and if you zoom in you’ll notice that the interior streets have no lane markers and some even are cobbled. Those connect to a street ( south, Hallerstraße) with bike lanes (don’t need those on smaller streets because there’s not enough traffic to warrant them), which connects to a four-lane (plus bus lane) street, Grindelalle, west. The intersection looks a bit crazy but it’s actually safe for pedestrians and you should’ve learned how to cross streets safely and what traffic lights are in Kindergarten. You’ve also been there with your parents (going shopping or whatever) a lot of times, nothing scary really. That kind of density and housing is probably illegal to build where you are (it’s illegal pretty much everywhere in the US and Canada).\n
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          And mind you Hamburg is awful when it comes to urbanism, way too car-centric. Not because of lack of public transport but because politicians are unwilling to kill off car traffic and the whole city is full of rich fucks with too much disposable income.
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          > A block in the US doesn’t mean a square either.\n
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          Yes, great, blame a non native speaker for expressing himself incorrectly, correcting himself, and then quadruple down on it. I was thinking of unprioritised NY-style blocks you see all over the place in US cities, gridlock magnets. You know, places where people say “down the block” and generally measure distances in blocks.\n
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          > It is required that children do not cross two lane roads to be picked up by school buses. I don’t make the rules. I don’t have a solution to US car culture. But making roads unpassable by school buses isn’t an answer.\n
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          If you look back at that Hamburg link, at those streets internal to the superblock, you’ll notice that they *are* wide enough for buses to go through. There’s no regular bus lines through there (there’s two metro stations and plenty of bus stops surrounding it) but a school bus isn’t regular service, it doesn’t need to play by the same rules. You can make a pickup at one of those very spacious intersections. It’s not being done because there’s schools in walking distance and German kids can cross roads but it *could* be done. Would you, however, ever speed on those roads.
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          Things aren’t done differently, in principle, in villages. You were the one brining up blocks or did you mean “buildings surrounded by roads *and fields*”.\n
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          [This is Wacken](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.0275469,9.3755654,169m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) (*the* Wacken), I zoomed you in on the primary school. There’s surrounding villages without school so it’s bound to get bus traffic. Note how it’s on a street that’s wide enough for that, but not the main road, the one with all the through-traffic. Can you understand that principle. (Main Roads, actually, Wacken has two, Schenefelder and Hauptstraße).\n
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          > I only took issue with the ridiculous idea that the roads in front of rural US schools could be made safer by making them impassable by busses.\n
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          Noone ever said that? At least I didn’t.
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          > You have one bus going in one direction to a school passing another bus going to another school.\n
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          In front of a school? Are your schools connected directly to highways or something?\n
          \n
          > Have you only lived in an inner city where roads can be one way because they alternate in direction every block?\n
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          We don’t have blocks.
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          > Grundschule Niederstotzingen\n
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          [That’s not on a main road](https://www.google.com/maps/place/Grundschule+Niederstotzingen/@48.5416064,10.2369723,16.33z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x479946d4d21d8af1:0x28d0eb80cb17df7f!8m2!3d48.54188!4d10.23954!16s%2Fg%2F1tgfvlcm?entry=ttu). Zoom out a bit, the main roads are the ones leading to other villages, named after those villages (or in the case of Ulm a city in that direction).\n
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          > Grundschule Pfaffenhofen\n
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          [neither](https://www.google.com/maps/place/Grundschule+Pfaffenhofen/@49.0620402,8.9749824,16.67z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x410b8f8ce5cb2efb:0x31c87e2000d06919!8m2!3d49.06201!4d8.97686!16s%2Fg%2F1tdqmls_?entry=ttu)\n
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          Didn’t check the rest\n
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          > Just like US schools, many have their own driveway that goes off the main road\n
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          Those are residential roads. [This a view of the Niederstotzingen school from the road it’s on](https://www.google.com/maps/@48.542406,10.2389314,3a,60y,119.92h,81.99t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sW-TbbzDmkVz_-XMnR0tqYg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu), the gymnasium is on the other side. Look up and down the road, there’s residential buildings there. Looking at the signage (or rather lack thereof), it’s two-way. No lane markings though small roads just don’t have them, you slow down and make sure to not shear off your side mirrors with the side mirrors of oncoming traffic. The little shack with a sign with an H is a bus stop. Only seems to be served by one bus line (at least I can’t find more), [here’s the schelude](https://www.ding.eu/fileadmin/content/downloads/ics/20230421-DING-EVG-Streik-RAB-Bus/593-Streik-RAB-Fahrten.pdf). It connects to two train stations (including thie Niederstotzingen one) roughly every 30 minutes. Frankly speaking you can walk from there you’ll be faster than waiting for the next bus.\n
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          Niederstotzingen is classed as a city btw, almost 5k inhabitants. It’s not really a size thing in Germany though and nowadays the title doesn’t have any legal meaning, city rights were granted by Kaiser Sigismund in 1430, meaning it served as the local trade hub or such. Congratulations, thanks to wikipedia I know now more about a tiny city I don’t care about in a state I don’t care for :)
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          > Cost. That separate road means buying land from someone and turning it into road. Do they have one way roads for rural schools in Germany? Because I looked at a few Grundschule in Bavaria on Google maps and didn’t see any.\n
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          You’ll have a hard time finding a village with *literally* one single road. Certainly not one 1-2k which is the size that gets the school for the surrounding ones.\n
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          > It is cheaper and more convenient to have a speed camera that is active only during school hours.\n
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          And also completely ineffective at preventing anything.Heck at least use road bumps. Narrow the road only in spots so that two monster trucks if you please fit on comfortably side by side for 50-100m or such, but then it narrows down to half that for just 5m. While you’re at it build a crossing there, narrowing the roads at pedestrian crossing is standard practice in many places and it makes a hell a lot of sense. Yes, that slows down traffic because you might have to negotiate with oncoming traffic who goes first. Yes, that’s precisely the point.
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    Let me look at a map… maybe 1km max anywhere in my 30k town to the next primary school and that’s when you’re living on the very very edge of town. Should be under 500m for most pupils.\n
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    If you’re living in a rural area, outside of the next village (which will have a school), which is an absolute exception as things tend to cluster into villages in rural areas, it might be 5km. Not really an issue with a bike, I biked what 3.5km to Kindergarten (together with my mom). If you have less density than that you probably should have boarding schools.\n
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    For secondary education, if you’re living in a village you’ll probably have to take the bus to the nearest city. Regular public transport though the schedule will take school times into account. Yes, kids can walk 500m to the nearest station.\n
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    Bonus: All that school density – smaller but way more of them – means that there’s obvious places to hold elections as there’s a municipality-owned place in Sunday stroll distance to pretty much everywhere. The only downside are the ludicrously low tables.
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    +slug: "Get-to-work-crackheads"
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      EDIT: since apparently a bunch of people woke up with the wrong foot this morning or forgot to check the group they’re in:\n
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      This is a joke. Do not steal or vandalize speed enforcement cameras (or anything else for that matter). That’s against the law and you will likely get arrested.\n
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      If you’re addicted to crack or any other drugs, please seek professional help.
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          Why can’t you have one-way streets in a rural area? Fork off the main street on one end, merge on the other. Pedestrian and bicycle traffic can be bidirectional, cars can take a little detour they don’t use muscle energy.\n
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          > > Wide enough for one pickup and no opposing traffic, but so narrow that two pickups are going to really have to negotiate to move around each other."\n
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          How does that translate to "block the street for buses? If a street fits two pickups it fits two buses. They’ll have to negotiate to move around each other so if you have many (which, as I told you a lot, you shouldn’t) you should consider a one-way road, or maybe a meeting bay, or a wider street with choke points, or whatever. But it’s not “blocking the road for buses”.
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          > Schools have more than one bus and they have to pass each other.\n
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          No they don’t they can enter from the same side. You’re just looking for excuses. Also why do you need buses in the first place why aren’t the kids walking or biking.
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          > That’s a main road.\n
          \n
          [No it isn’t](https://dictionary.cambridge.org/de/worterbuch/essential-amerikanisches-englisch/main-road):\n
          \n
          > a large road that goes from one town to another:\n
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          And yes you also see residential buildings on main roads. The reason this is a residential and not main road is due to its size and position away from through-traffic. It’s a road where you have a quick look and then just cross, main roads are of the “eh I can look but I probably need to get to a crossing to get across” territory.\n
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          And no there’s no speed bumps why would there if the road is narrow enough and people naturally drive slow enough, there’s no through traffic, the residents don’t race on it, etc.
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          US suburbia has a higher density than the German countryside, having to travel 24km is nuts. That’d be defensible if you live in a tiny settlement 24km from a place with more than two dozen houses – I’m sure those exist in the US but suburbia isn’t that.\n
          \n
          How many pupils were there at your school? My state has 106240 pupils in 393 primary schools, that’s an average of 270. Minimum size under ordinary circumstances is 80, the smallest is on Nordstrandischmoor: An island, 18 inhabitants, five families, one school, one teacher, two students, [here it is](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.5518864,8.8108853,16z?entry=ttu). That’s because we don’t do boarding in primary education so there’s a maximum tolerable commute time/distance, once those kids are old enough they’ll spend Monday through Friday on the mainland.\n
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          If your system insists that a school have at least 2k students or such then, yes, of course, walking to school will be an impossibility for most. Fix your school sizes and like 99% of students will be able to walk or bike, use buses or minivans or whatnot for the rest we do that too (not really possible in Nordstrandischmoor, thing doesn’t even have a ferry but a rail link that’s only usable when the tide is low).\n
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          And no it wasn’t my school it was my Kindergarten, which wasn’t, by a long shot, the closest to home it was the one my parents chose. I mentioned it to say that biking 3.5km is something a 4yold can do, physically, without any issue at all really.
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          > Roads are typically 2 lanes one in each direction. You already know this because you said a solution would be to remove the lane marker.\n
          \n
          I’m someone else.\n
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          > So you have a road with an elementary school, and 2 miles further down is a middle school. Even without that you have buses passing each other during pickup because busses only pickup kids on one side of the street so you don’t have young kids crossing roads.\n
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          Lots of questions here: Why can’t kids walk 500m to the next bus stop? Why are streets so unsafe so that kids can’t cross them?\n
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          Why assume that there’s no larger road in between those smaller roads? Roads generally form a hierarchy, you have big ones feeding into middle ones feeding into small ones. Small ones should absolutely be safe to cross, also without explicit crossings, because they’re traffic calmed and don’t have much traffic in the first place. That’s where houses and schools are, where there’s no through-traffic because even if they aren’t cul de sacs who would drive through a road you can’t drive fast on when there’s a mid-level road that you could take.\n
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          > What do you call a section of inner city bounded on all sides by a road in your country?\n
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          Straßenblock. Let me put it differently: We don’t have grids and nothing is regular. [This is about as grid-y as it gets](https://www.google.com/maps/@53.5753832,9.9851206,1090m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) and if you zoom in you’ll notice that the interior streets have no lane markers and some even are cobbled. Those connect to a street ( south, Hallerstraße) with bike lanes (don’t need those on smaller streets because there’s not enough traffic to warrant them), which connects to a four-lane (plus bus lane) street, Grindelalle, west. The intersection looks a bit crazy but it’s actually safe for pedestrians and you should’ve learned how to cross streets safely and what traffic lights are in Kindergarten. You’ve also been there with your parents (going shopping or whatever) a lot of times, nothing scary really. That kind of density and housing is probably illegal to build where you are (it’s illegal pretty much everywhere in the US and Canada).\n
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          And mind you Hamburg is awful when it comes to urbanism, way too car-centric. Not because of lack of public transport but because politicians are unwilling to kill off car traffic and the whole city is full of rich fucks with too much disposable income.
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          > A block in the US doesn’t mean a square either.\n
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          Yes, great, blame a non native speaker for expressing himself incorrectly, correcting himself, and then quadruple down on it. I was thinking of unprioritised NY-style blocks you see all over the place in US cities, gridlock magnets. You know, places where people say “down the block” and generally measure distances in blocks.\n
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          > It is required that children do not cross two lane roads to be picked up by school buses. I don’t make the rules. I don’t have a solution to US car culture. But making roads unpassable by school buses isn’t an answer.\n
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          If you look back at that Hamburg link, at those streets internal to the superblock, you’ll notice that they *are* wide enough for buses to go through. There’s no regular bus lines through there (there’s two metro stations and plenty of bus stops surrounding it) but a school bus isn’t regular service, it doesn’t need to play by the same rules. You can make a pickup at one of those very spacious intersections. It’s not being done because there’s schools in walking distance and German kids can cross roads but it *could* be done. Would you, however, ever speed on those roads.
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          Things aren’t done differently, in principle, in villages. You were the one brining up blocks or did you mean “buildings surrounded by roads *and fields*”.\n
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          [This is Wacken](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.0275469,9.3755654,169m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) (*the* Wacken), I zoomed you in on the primary school. There’s surrounding villages without school so it’s bound to get bus traffic. Note how it’s on a street that’s wide enough for that, but not the main road, the one with all the through-traffic. Can you understand that principle. (Main Roads, actually, Wacken has two, Schenefelder and Hauptstraße).\n
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          > I only took issue with the ridiculous idea that the roads in front of rural US schools could be made safer by making them impassable by busses.\n
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          Noone ever said that? At least I didn’t.
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          > You have one bus going in one direction to a school passing another bus going to another school.\n
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          In front of a school? Are your schools connected directly to highways or something?\n
          \n
          > Have you only lived in an inner city where roads can be one way because they alternate in direction every block?\n
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          We don’t have blocks.
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          > Grundschule Niederstotzingen\n
          \n
          [That’s not on a main road](https://www.google.com/maps/place/Grundschule+Niederstotzingen/@48.5416064,10.2369723,16.33z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x479946d4d21d8af1:0x28d0eb80cb17df7f!8m2!3d48.54188!4d10.23954!16s%2Fg%2F1tgfvlcm?entry=ttu). Zoom out a bit, the main roads are the ones leading to other villages, named after those villages (or in the case of Ulm a city in that direction).\n
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          > Grundschule Pfaffenhofen\n
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          [neither](https://www.google.com/maps/place/Grundschule+Pfaffenhofen/@49.0620402,8.9749824,16.67z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x410b8f8ce5cb2efb:0x31c87e2000d06919!8m2!3d49.06201!4d8.97686!16s%2Fg%2F1tdqmls_?entry=ttu)\n
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          Didn’t check the rest\n
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          > Just like US schools, many have their own driveway that goes off the main road\n
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          Those are residential roads. [This a view of the Niederstotzingen school from the road it’s on](https://www.google.com/maps/@48.542406,10.2389314,3a,60y,119.92h,81.99t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sW-TbbzDmkVz_-XMnR0tqYg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu), the gymnasium is on the other side. Look up and down the road, there’s residential buildings there. Looking at the signage (or rather lack thereof), it’s two-way. No lane markings though small roads just don’t have them, you slow down and make sure to not shear off your side mirrors with the side mirrors of oncoming traffic. The little shack with a sign with an H is a bus stop. Only seems to be served by one bus line (at least I can’t find more), [here’s the schelude](https://www.ding.eu/fileadmin/content/downloads/ics/20230421-DING-EVG-Streik-RAB-Bus/593-Streik-RAB-Fahrten.pdf). It connects to two train stations (including thie Niederstotzingen one) roughly every 30 minutes. Frankly speaking you can walk from there you’ll be faster than waiting for the next bus.\n
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          Niederstotzingen is classed as a city btw, almost 5k inhabitants. It’s not really a size thing in Germany though and nowadays the title doesn’t have any legal meaning, city rights were granted by Kaiser Sigismund in 1430, meaning it served as the local trade hub or such. Congratulations, thanks to wikipedia I know now more about a tiny city I don’t care about in a state I don’t care for :)
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          > Cost. That separate road means buying land from someone and turning it into road. Do they have one way roads for rural schools in Germany? Because I looked at a few Grundschule in Bavaria on Google maps and didn’t see any.\n
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          You’ll have a hard time finding a village with *literally* one single road. Certainly not one 1-2k which is the size that gets the school for the surrounding ones.\n
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          > It is cheaper and more convenient to have a speed camera that is active only during school hours.\n
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          And also completely ineffective at preventing anything.Heck at least use road bumps. Narrow the road only in spots so that two monster trucks if you please fit on comfortably side by side for 50-100m or such, but then it narrows down to half that for just 5m. While you’re at it build a crossing there, narrowing the roads at pedestrian crossing is standard practice in many places and it makes a hell a lot of sense. Yes, that slows down traffic because you might have to negotiate with oncoming traffic who goes first. Yes, that’s precisely the point.
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    Let me look at a map… maybe 1km max anywhere in my 30k town to the next primary school and that’s when you’re living on the very very edge of town. Should be under 500m for most pupils.\n
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    If you’re living in a rural area, outside of the next village (which will have a school), which is an absolute exception as things tend to cluster into villages in rural areas, it might be 5km. Not really an issue with a bike, I biked what 3.5km to Kindergarten (together with my mom). If you have less density than that you probably should have boarding schools.\n
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    For secondary education, if you’re living in a village you’ll probably have to take the bus to the nearest city. Regular public transport though the schedule will take school times into account. Yes, kids can walk 500m to the nearest station.\n
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    Bonus: All that school density – smaller but way more of them – means that there’s obvious places to hold elections as there’s a municipality-owned place in Sunday stroll distance to pretty much everywhere. The only downside are the ludicrously low tables.
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      EDIT: since apparently a bunch of people woke up with the wrong foot this morning or forgot to check the group they’re in:\n
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      If you’re addicted to crack or any other drugs, please seek professional help.
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          Why can’t you have one-way streets in a rural area? Fork off the main street on one end, merge on the other. Pedestrian and bicycle traffic can be bidirectional, cars can take a little detour they don’t use muscle energy.\n
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          > > Wide enough for one pickup and no opposing traffic, but so narrow that two pickups are going to really have to negotiate to move around each other."\n
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          How does that translate to "block the street for buses? If a street fits two pickups it fits two buses. They’ll have to negotiate to move around each other so if you have many (which, as I told you a lot, you shouldn’t) you should consider a one-way road, or maybe a meeting bay, or a wider street with choke points, or whatever. But it’s not “blocking the road for buses”.
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          > Schools have more than one bus and they have to pass each other.\n
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          No they don’t they can enter from the same side. You’re just looking for excuses. Also why do you need buses in the first place why aren’t the kids walking or biking.
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          > That’s a main road.\n
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          [No it isn’t](https://dictionary.cambridge.org/de/worterbuch/essential-amerikanisches-englisch/main-road):\n
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          > a large road that goes from one town to another:\n
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          And yes you also see residential buildings on main roads. The reason this is a residential and not main road is due to its size and position away from through-traffic. It’s a road where you have a quick look and then just cross, main roads are of the “eh I can look but I probably need to get to a crossing to get across” territory.\n
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          US suburbia has a higher density than the German countryside, having to travel 24km is nuts. That’d be defensible if you live in a tiny settlement 24km from a place with more than two dozen houses – I’m sure those exist in the US but suburbia isn’t that.\n
          \n
          How many pupils were there at your school? My state has 106240 pupils in 393 primary schools, that’s an average of 270. Minimum size under ordinary circumstances is 80, the smallest is on Nordstrandischmoor: An island, 18 inhabitants, five families, one school, one teacher, two students, [here it is](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.5518864,8.8108853,16z?entry=ttu). That’s because we don’t do boarding in primary education so there’s a maximum tolerable commute time/distance, once those kids are old enough they’ll spend Monday through Friday on the mainland.\n
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          If your system insists that a school have at least 2k students or such then, yes, of course, walking to school will be an impossibility for most. Fix your school sizes and like 99% of students will be able to walk or bike, use buses or minivans or whatnot for the rest we do that too (not really possible in Nordstrandischmoor, thing doesn’t even have a ferry but a rail link that’s only usable when the tide is low).\n
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          And no it wasn’t my school it was my Kindergarten, which wasn’t, by a long shot, the closest to home it was the one my parents chose. I mentioned it to say that biking 3.5km is something a 4yold can do, physically, without any issue at all really.
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          > Roads are typically 2 lanes one in each direction. You already know this because you said a solution would be to remove the lane marker.\n
          \n
          I’m someone else.\n
          \n
          > So you have a road with an elementary school, and 2 miles further down is a middle school. Even without that you have buses passing each other during pickup because busses only pickup kids on one side of the street so you don’t have young kids crossing roads.\n
          \n
          Lots of questions here: Why can’t kids walk 500m to the next bus stop? Why are streets so unsafe so that kids can’t cross them?\n
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          Why assume that there’s no larger road in between those smaller roads? Roads generally form a hierarchy, you have big ones feeding into middle ones feeding into small ones. Small ones should absolutely be safe to cross, also without explicit crossings, because they’re traffic calmed and don’t have much traffic in the first place. That’s where houses and schools are, where there’s no through-traffic because even if they aren’t cul de sacs who would drive through a road you can’t drive fast on when there’s a mid-level road that you could take.\n
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          > What do you call a section of inner city bounded on all sides by a road in your country?\n
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          Straßenblock. Let me put it differently: We don’t have grids and nothing is regular. [This is about as grid-y as it gets](https://www.google.com/maps/@53.5753832,9.9851206,1090m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) and if you zoom in you’ll notice that the interior streets have no lane markers and some even are cobbled. Those connect to a street ( south, Hallerstraße) with bike lanes (don’t need those on smaller streets because there’s not enough traffic to warrant them), which connects to a four-lane (plus bus lane) street, Grindelalle, west. The intersection looks a bit crazy but it’s actually safe for pedestrians and you should’ve learned how to cross streets safely and what traffic lights are in Kindergarten. You’ve also been there with your parents (going shopping or whatever) a lot of times, nothing scary really. That kind of density and housing is probably illegal to build where you are (it’s illegal pretty much everywhere in the US and Canada).\n
          \n
          And mind you Hamburg is awful when it comes to urbanism, way too car-centric. Not because of lack of public transport but because politicians are unwilling to kill off car traffic and the whole city is full of rich fucks with too much disposable income.
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          Let me look at a map… maybe 1km max anywhere in my 30k town to the next primary school and that’s when you’re living on the very very edge of town. Should be under 500m for most pupils.\n
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          If you’re living in a rural area, outside of the next village (which will have a school), which is an absolute exception as things tend to cluster into villages in rural areas, it might be 5km. Not really an issue with a bike, I biked what 3.5km to Kindergarten (together with my mom). If you have less density than that you probably should have boarding schools.\n
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          For secondary education, if you’re living in a village you’ll probably have to take the bus to the nearest city. Regular public transport though the schedule will take school times into account. Yes, kids can walk 500m to the nearest station.\n
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          Bonus: All that school density – smaller but way more of them – means that there’s obvious places to hold elections as there’s a municipality-owned place in Sunday stroll distance to pretty much everywhere. The only downside are the ludicrously low tables.
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          Things aren’t done differently, in principle, in villages. You were the one brining up blocks or did you mean “buildings surrounded by roads *and fields*”.\n
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          [This is Wacken](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.0275469,9.3755654,169m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) (*the* Wacken), I zoomed you in on the primary school. There’s surrounding villages without school so it’s bound to get bus traffic. Note how it’s on a street that’s wide enough for that, but not the main road, the one with all the through-traffic. Can you understand that principle. (Main Roads, actually, Wacken has two, Schenefelder and Hauptstraße).\n
          \n
          > I only took issue with the ridiculous idea that the roads in front of rural US schools could be made safer by making them impassable by busses.\n
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          Noone ever said that? At least I didn’t.
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          > You have one bus going in one direction to a school passing another bus going to another school.\n
          \n
          In front of a school? Are your schools connected directly to highways or something?\n
          \n
          > Have you only lived in an inner city where roads can be one way because they alternate in direction every block?\n
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          We don’t have blocks.
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          > Grundschule Niederstotzingen\n
          \n
          [That’s not on a main road](https://www.google.com/maps/place/Grundschule+Niederstotzingen/@48.5416064,10.2369723,16.33z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x479946d4d21d8af1:0x28d0eb80cb17df7f!8m2!3d48.54188!4d10.23954!16s%2Fg%2F1tgfvlcm?entry=ttu). Zoom out a bit, the main roads are the ones leading to other villages, named after those villages (or in the case of Ulm a city in that direction).\n
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          > Grundschule Pfaffenhofen\n
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          [neither](https://www.google.com/maps/place/Grundschule+Pfaffenhofen/@49.0620402,8.9749824,16.67z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x410b8f8ce5cb2efb:0x31c87e2000d06919!8m2!3d49.06201!4d8.97686!16s%2Fg%2F1tdqmls_?entry=ttu)\n
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          Didn’t check the rest\n
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          > Just like US schools, many have their own driveway that goes off the main road\n
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          Those are residential roads. [This a view of the Niederstotzingen school from the road it’s on](https://www.google.com/maps/@48.542406,10.2389314,3a,60y,119.92h,81.99t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sW-TbbzDmkVz_-XMnR0tqYg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu), the gymnasium is on the other side. Look up and down the road, there’s residential buildings there. Looking at the signage (or rather lack thereof), it’s two-way. No lane markings though small roads just don’t have them, you slow down and make sure to not shear off your side mirrors with the side mirrors of oncoming traffic. The little shack with a sign with an H is a bus stop. Only seems to be served by one bus line (at least I can’t find more), [here’s the schelude](https://www.ding.eu/fileadmin/content/downloads/ics/20230421-DING-EVG-Streik-RAB-Bus/593-Streik-RAB-Fahrten.pdf). It connects to two train stations (including thie Niederstotzingen one) roughly every 30 minutes. Frankly speaking you can walk from there you’ll be faster than waiting for the next bus.\n
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          Niederstotzingen is classed as a city btw, almost 5k inhabitants. It’s not really a size thing in Germany though and nowadays the title doesn’t have any legal meaning, city rights were granted by Kaiser Sigismund in 1430, meaning it served as the local trade hub or such. Congratulations, thanks to wikipedia I know now more about a tiny city I don’t care about in a state I don’t care for :)
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          > Cost. That separate road means buying land from someone and turning it into road. Do they have one way roads for rural schools in Germany? Because I looked at a few Grundschule in Bavaria on Google maps and didn’t see any.\n
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          You’ll have a hard time finding a village with *literally* one single road. Certainly not one 1-2k which is the size that gets the school for the surrounding ones.\n
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          > It is cheaper and more convenient to have a speed camera that is active only during school hours.\n
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          And also completely ineffective at preventing anything.Heck at least use road bumps. Narrow the road only in spots so that two monster trucks if you please fit on comfortably side by side for 50-100m or such, but then it narrows down to half that for just 5m. While you’re at it build a crossing there, narrowing the roads at pedestrian crossing is standard practice in many places and it makes a hell a lot of sense. Yes, that slows down traffic because you might have to negotiate with oncoming traffic who goes first. Yes, that’s precisely the point.
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    > A block in the US doesn’t mean a square either.\n
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    Yes, great, blame a non native speaker for expressing himself incorrectly, correcting himself, and then quadruple down on it. I was thinking of unprioritised NY-style blocks you see all over the place in US cities, gridlock magnets. You know, places where people say “down the block” and generally measure distances in blocks.\n
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    > It is required that children do not cross two lane roads to be picked up by school buses. I don’t make the rules. I don’t have a solution to US car culture. But making roads unpassable by school buses isn’t an answer.\n
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    If you look back at that Hamburg link, at those streets internal to the superblock, you’ll notice that they *are* wide enough for buses to go through. There’s no regular bus lines through there (there’s two metro stations and plenty of bus stops surrounding it) but a school bus isn’t regular service, it doesn’t need to play by the same rules. You can make a pickup at one of those very spacious intersections. It’s not being done because there’s schools in walking distance and German kids can cross roads but it *could* be done. Would you, however, ever speed on those roads.
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      EDIT: since apparently a bunch of people woke up with the wrong foot this morning or forgot to check the group they’re in:\n
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      If you’re addicted to crack or any other drugs, please seek professional help.
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          Why can’t you have one-way streets in a rural area? Fork off the main street on one end, merge on the other. Pedestrian and bicycle traffic can be bidirectional, cars can take a little detour they don’t use muscle energy.\n
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          > > Wide enough for one pickup and no opposing traffic, but so narrow that two pickups are going to really have to negotiate to move around each other."\n
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          How does that translate to "block the street for buses? If a street fits two pickups it fits two buses. They’ll have to negotiate to move around each other so if you have many (which, as I told you a lot, you shouldn’t) you should consider a one-way road, or maybe a meeting bay, or a wider street with choke points, or whatever. But it’s not “blocking the road for buses”.
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          > Schools have more than one bus and they have to pass each other.\n
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          No they don’t they can enter from the same side. You’re just looking for excuses. Also why do you need buses in the first place why aren’t the kids walking or biking.
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          > That’s a main road.\n
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          And yes you also see residential buildings on main roads. The reason this is a residential and not main road is due to its size and position away from through-traffic. It’s a road where you have a quick look and then just cross, main roads are of the “eh I can look but I probably need to get to a crossing to get across” territory.\n
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          US suburbia has a higher density than the German countryside, having to travel 24km is nuts. That’d be defensible if you live in a tiny settlement 24km from a place with more than two dozen houses – I’m sure those exist in the US but suburbia isn’t that.\n
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          How many pupils were there at your school? My state has 106240 pupils in 393 primary schools, that’s an average of 270. Minimum size under ordinary circumstances is 80, the smallest is on Nordstrandischmoor: An island, 18 inhabitants, five families, one school, one teacher, two students, [here it is](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.5518864,8.8108853,16z?entry=ttu). That’s because we don’t do boarding in primary education so there’s a maximum tolerable commute time/distance, once those kids are old enough they’ll spend Monday through Friday on the mainland.\n
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          If your system insists that a school have at least 2k students or such then, yes, of course, walking to school will be an impossibility for most. Fix your school sizes and like 99% of students will be able to walk or bike, use buses or minivans or whatnot for the rest we do that too (not really possible in Nordstrandischmoor, thing doesn’t even have a ferry but a rail link that’s only usable when the tide is low).\n
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          And no it wasn’t my school it was my Kindergarten, which wasn’t, by a long shot, the closest to home it was the one my parents chose. I mentioned it to say that biking 3.5km is something a 4yold can do, physically, without any issue at all really.
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          > Roads are typically 2 lanes one in each direction. You already know this because you said a solution would be to remove the lane marker.\n
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          I’m someone else.\n
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          > So you have a road with an elementary school, and 2 miles further down is a middle school. Even without that you have buses passing each other during pickup because busses only pickup kids on one side of the street so you don’t have young kids crossing roads.\n
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          Lots of questions here: Why can’t kids walk 500m to the next bus stop? Why are streets so unsafe so that kids can’t cross them?\n
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          Why assume that there’s no larger road in between those smaller roads? Roads generally form a hierarchy, you have big ones feeding into middle ones feeding into small ones. Small ones should absolutely be safe to cross, also without explicit crossings, because they’re traffic calmed and don’t have much traffic in the first place. That’s where houses and schools are, where there’s no through-traffic because even if they aren’t cul de sacs who would drive through a road you can’t drive fast on when there’s a mid-level road that you could take.\n
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          > What do you call a section of inner city bounded on all sides by a road in your country?\n
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          Straßenblock. Let me put it differently: We don’t have grids and nothing is regular. [This is about as grid-y as it gets](https://www.google.com/maps/@53.5753832,9.9851206,1090m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) and if you zoom in you’ll notice that the interior streets have no lane markers and some even are cobbled. Those connect to a street ( south, Hallerstraße) with bike lanes (don’t need those on smaller streets because there’s not enough traffic to warrant them), which connects to a four-lane (plus bus lane) street, Grindelalle, west. The intersection looks a bit crazy but it’s actually safe for pedestrians and you should’ve learned how to cross streets safely and what traffic lights are in Kindergarten. You’ve also been there with your parents (going shopping or whatever) a lot of times, nothing scary really. That kind of density and housing is probably illegal to build where you are (it’s illegal pretty much everywhere in the US and Canada).\n
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          And mind you Hamburg is awful when it comes to urbanism, way too car-centric. Not because of lack of public transport but because politicians are unwilling to kill off car traffic and the whole city is full of rich fucks with too much disposable income.
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          Let me look at a map… maybe 1km max anywhere in my 30k town to the next primary school and that’s when you’re living on the very very edge of town. Should be under 500m for most pupils.\n
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          If you’re living in a rural area, outside of the next village (which will have a school), which is an absolute exception as things tend to cluster into villages in rural areas, it might be 5km. Not really an issue with a bike, I biked what 3.5km to Kindergarten (together with my mom). If you have less density than that you probably should have boarding schools.\n
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          For secondary education, if you’re living in a village you’ll probably have to take the bus to the nearest city. Regular public transport though the schedule will take school times into account. Yes, kids can walk 500m to the nearest station.\n
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          Bonus: All that school density – smaller but way more of them – means that there’s obvious places to hold elections as there’s a municipality-owned place in Sunday stroll distance to pretty much everywhere. The only downside are the ludicrously low tables.
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          Things aren’t done differently, in principle, in villages. You were the one brining up blocks or did you mean “buildings surrounded by roads *and fields*”.\n
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          [This is Wacken](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.0275469,9.3755654,169m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) (*the* Wacken), I zoomed you in on the primary school. There’s surrounding villages without school so it’s bound to get bus traffic. Note how it’s on a street that’s wide enough for that, but not the main road, the one with all the through-traffic. Can you understand that principle. (Main Roads, actually, Wacken has two, Schenefelder and Hauptstraße).\n
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          > I only took issue with the ridiculous idea that the roads in front of rural US schools could be made safer by making them impassable by busses.\n
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          Noone ever said that? At least I didn’t.
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          > You have one bus going in one direction to a school passing another bus going to another school.\n
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          In front of a school? Are your schools connected directly to highways or something?\n
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          > Have you only lived in an inner city where roads can be one way because they alternate in direction every block?\n
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          We don’t have blocks.
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          > Grundschule Niederstotzingen\n
          \n
          [That’s not on a main road](https://www.google.com/maps/place/Grundschule+Niederstotzingen/@48.5416064,10.2369723,16.33z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x479946d4d21d8af1:0x28d0eb80cb17df7f!8m2!3d48.54188!4d10.23954!16s%2Fg%2F1tgfvlcm?entry=ttu). Zoom out a bit, the main roads are the ones leading to other villages, named after those villages (or in the case of Ulm a city in that direction).\n
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          > Grundschule Pfaffenhofen\n
          \n
          [neither](https://www.google.com/maps/place/Grundschule+Pfaffenhofen/@49.0620402,8.9749824,16.67z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x410b8f8ce5cb2efb:0x31c87e2000d06919!8m2!3d49.06201!4d8.97686!16s%2Fg%2F1tdqmls_?entry=ttu)\n
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          Didn’t check the rest\n
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          > Just like US schools, many have their own driveway that goes off the main road\n
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          Those are residential roads. [This a view of the Niederstotzingen school from the road it’s on](https://www.google.com/maps/@48.542406,10.2389314,3a,60y,119.92h,81.99t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sW-TbbzDmkVz_-XMnR0tqYg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu), the gymnasium is on the other side. Look up and down the road, there’s residential buildings there. Looking at the signage (or rather lack thereof), it’s two-way. No lane markings though small roads just don’t have them, you slow down and make sure to not shear off your side mirrors with the side mirrors of oncoming traffic. The little shack with a sign with an H is a bus stop. Only seems to be served by one bus line (at least I can’t find more), [here’s the schelude](https://www.ding.eu/fileadmin/content/downloads/ics/20230421-DING-EVG-Streik-RAB-Bus/593-Streik-RAB-Fahrten.pdf). It connects to two train stations (including thie Niederstotzingen one) roughly every 30 minutes. Frankly speaking you can walk from there you’ll be faster than waiting for the next bus.\n
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          Niederstotzingen is classed as a city btw, almost 5k inhabitants. It’s not really a size thing in Germany though and nowadays the title doesn’t have any legal meaning, city rights were granted by Kaiser Sigismund in 1430, meaning it served as the local trade hub or such. Congratulations, thanks to wikipedia I know now more about a tiny city I don’t care about in a state I don’t care for :)
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          > Cost. That separate road means buying land from someone and turning it into road. Do they have one way roads for rural schools in Germany? Because I looked at a few Grundschule in Bavaria on Google maps and didn’t see any.\n
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          You’ll have a hard time finding a village with *literally* one single road. Certainly not one 1-2k which is the size that gets the school for the surrounding ones.\n
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          And also completely ineffective at preventing anything.Heck at least use road bumps. Narrow the road only in spots so that two monster trucks if you please fit on comfortably side by side for 50-100m or such, but then it narrows down to half that for just 5m. While you’re at it build a crossing there, narrowing the roads at pedestrian crossing is standard practice in many places and it makes a hell a lot of sense. Yes, that slows down traffic because you might have to negotiate with oncoming traffic who goes first. Yes, that’s precisely the point.
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    > A block in the US doesn’t mean a square either.\n
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    Yes, great, blame a non native speaker for expressing himself incorrectly, correcting himself, and then quadruple down on it. I was thinking of unprioritised NY-style blocks you see all over the place in US cities, gridlock magnets. You know, places where people say “down the block” and generally measure distances in blocks.\n
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    If you look back at that Hamburg link, at those streets internal to the superblock, you’ll notice that they *are* wide enough for buses to go through. There’s no regular bus lines through there (there’s two metro stations and plenty of bus stops surrounding it) but a school bus isn’t regular service, it doesn’t need to play by the same rules. You can make a pickup at one of those very spacious intersections. It’s not being done because there’s schools in walking distance and German kids can cross roads but it *could* be done. Would you, however, ever speed on those roads.
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          > Schools have more than one bus and they have to pass each other.\n
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          No they don’t they can enter from the same side. You’re just looking for excuses. Also why do you need buses in the first place why aren’t the kids walking or biking.
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          > That’s a main road.\n
          \n
          [No it isn’t](https://dictionary.cambridge.org/de/worterbuch/essential-amerikanisches-englisch/main-road):\n
          \n
          > a large road that goes from one town to another:\n
          \n
          And yes you also see residential buildings on main roads. The reason this is a residential and not main road is due to its size and position away from through-traffic. It’s a road where you have a quick look and then just cross, main roads are of the “eh I can look but I probably need to get to a crossing to get across” territory.\n
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          And no there’s no speed bumps why would there if the road is narrow enough and people naturally drive slow enough, there’s no through traffic, the residents don’t race on it, etc.
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          US suburbia has a higher density than the German countryside, having to travel 24km is nuts. That’d be defensible if you live in a tiny settlement 24km from a place with more than two dozen houses – I’m sure those exist in the US but suburbia isn’t that.\n
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          How many pupils were there at your school? My state has 106240 pupils in 393 primary schools, that’s an average of 270. Minimum size under ordinary circumstances is 80, the smallest is on Nordstrandischmoor: An island, 18 inhabitants, five families, one school, one teacher, two students, [here it is](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.5518864,8.8108853,16z?entry=ttu). That’s because we don’t do boarding in primary education so there’s a maximum tolerable commute time/distance, once those kids are old enough they’ll spend Monday through Friday on the mainland.\n
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          If your system insists that a school have at least 2k students or such then, yes, of course, walking to school will be an impossibility for most. Fix your school sizes and like 99% of students will be able to walk or bike, use buses or minivans or whatnot for the rest we do that too (not really possible in Nordstrandischmoor, thing doesn’t even have a ferry but a rail link that’s only usable when the tide is low).\n
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          And no it wasn’t my school it was my Kindergarten, which wasn’t, by a long shot, the closest to home it was the one my parents chose. I mentioned it to say that biking 3.5km is something a 4yold can do, physically, without any issue at all really.
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          > Roads are typically 2 lanes one in each direction. You already know this because you said a solution would be to remove the lane marker.\n
          \n
          I’m someone else.\n
          \n
          > So you have a road with an elementary school, and 2 miles further down is a middle school. Even without that you have buses passing each other during pickup because busses only pickup kids on one side of the street so you don’t have young kids crossing roads.\n
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          Lots of questions here: Why can’t kids walk 500m to the next bus stop? Why are streets so unsafe so that kids can’t cross them?\n
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          Why assume that there’s no larger road in between those smaller roads? Roads generally form a hierarchy, you have big ones feeding into middle ones feeding into small ones. Small ones should absolutely be safe to cross, also without explicit crossings, because they’re traffic calmed and don’t have much traffic in the first place. That’s where houses and schools are, where there’s no through-traffic because even if they aren’t cul de sacs who would drive through a road you can’t drive fast on when there’s a mid-level road that you could take.\n
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          > What do you call a section of inner city bounded on all sides by a road in your country?\n
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          Straßenblock. Let me put it differently: We don’t have grids and nothing is regular. [This is about as grid-y as it gets](https://www.google.com/maps/@53.5753832,9.9851206,1090m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) and if you zoom in you’ll notice that the interior streets have no lane markers and some even are cobbled. Those connect to a street ( south, Hallerstraße) with bike lanes (don’t need those on smaller streets because there’s not enough traffic to warrant them), which connects to a four-lane (plus bus lane) street, Grindelalle, west. The intersection looks a bit crazy but it’s actually safe for pedestrians and you should’ve learned how to cross streets safely and what traffic lights are in Kindergarten. You’ve also been there with your parents (going shopping or whatever) a lot of times, nothing scary really. That kind of density and housing is probably illegal to build where you are (it’s illegal pretty much everywhere in the US and Canada).\n
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          And mind you Hamburg is awful when it comes to urbanism, way too car-centric. Not because of lack of public transport but because politicians are unwilling to kill off car traffic and the whole city is full of rich fucks with too much disposable income.
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          Let me look at a map… maybe 1km max anywhere in my 30k town to the next primary school and that’s when you’re living on the very very edge of town. Should be under 500m for most pupils.\n
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          If you’re living in a rural area, outside of the next village (which will have a school), which is an absolute exception as things tend to cluster into villages in rural areas, it might be 5km. Not really an issue with a bike, I biked what 3.5km to Kindergarten (together with my mom). If you have less density than that you probably should have boarding schools.\n
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          For secondary education, if you’re living in a village you’ll probably have to take the bus to the nearest city. Regular public transport though the schedule will take school times into account. Yes, kids can walk 500m to the nearest station.\n
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          Bonus: All that school density – smaller but way more of them – means that there’s obvious places to hold elections as there’s a municipality-owned place in Sunday stroll distance to pretty much everywhere. The only downside are the ludicrously low tables.
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          Things aren’t done differently, in principle, in villages. You were the one brining up blocks or did you mean “buildings surrounded by roads *and fields*”.\n
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          [This is Wacken](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.0275469,9.3755654,169m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) (*the* Wacken), I zoomed you in on the primary school. There’s surrounding villages without school so it’s bound to get bus traffic. Note how it’s on a street that’s wide enough for that, but not the main road, the one with all the through-traffic. Can you understand that principle. (Main Roads, actually, Wacken has two, Schenefelder and Hauptstraße).\n
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          > I only took issue with the ridiculous idea that the roads in front of rural US schools could be made safer by making them impassable by busses.\n
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          Noone ever said that? At least I didn’t.
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          > You have one bus going in one direction to a school passing another bus going to another school.\n
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          In front of a school? Are your schools connected directly to highways or something?\n
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          > Have you only lived in an inner city where roads can be one way because they alternate in direction every block?\n
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          We don’t have blocks.
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          > Grundschule Niederstotzingen\n
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          [That’s not on a main road](https://www.google.com/maps/place/Grundschule+Niederstotzingen/@48.5416064,10.2369723,16.33z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x479946d4d21d8af1:0x28d0eb80cb17df7f!8m2!3d48.54188!4d10.23954!16s%2Fg%2F1tgfvlcm?entry=ttu). Zoom out a bit, the main roads are the ones leading to other villages, named after those villages (or in the case of Ulm a city in that direction).\n
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          > Grundschule Pfaffenhofen\n
          \n
          [neither](https://www.google.com/maps/place/Grundschule+Pfaffenhofen/@49.0620402,8.9749824,16.67z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x410b8f8ce5cb2efb:0x31c87e2000d06919!8m2!3d49.06201!4d8.97686!16s%2Fg%2F1tdqmls_?entry=ttu)\n
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          Didn’t check the rest\n
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          > Just like US schools, many have their own driveway that goes off the main road\n
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          Those are residential roads. [This a view of the Niederstotzingen school from the road it’s on](https://www.google.com/maps/@48.542406,10.2389314,3a,60y,119.92h,81.99t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sW-TbbzDmkVz_-XMnR0tqYg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu), the gymnasium is on the other side. Look up and down the road, there’s residential buildings there. Looking at the signage (or rather lack thereof), it’s two-way. No lane markings though small roads just don’t have them, you slow down and make sure to not shear off your side mirrors with the side mirrors of oncoming traffic. The little shack with a sign with an H is a bus stop. Only seems to be served by one bus line (at least I can’t find more), [here’s the schelude](https://www.ding.eu/fileadmin/content/downloads/ics/20230421-DING-EVG-Streik-RAB-Bus/593-Streik-RAB-Fahrten.pdf). It connects to two train stations (including thie Niederstotzingen one) roughly every 30 minutes. Frankly speaking you can walk from there you’ll be faster than waiting for the next bus.\n
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          Niederstotzingen is classed as a city btw, almost 5k inhabitants. It’s not really a size thing in Germany though and nowadays the title doesn’t have any legal meaning, city rights were granted by Kaiser Sigismund in 1430, meaning it served as the local trade hub or such. Congratulations, thanks to wikipedia I know now more about a tiny city I don’t care about in a state I don’t care for :)
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          > Cost. That separate road means buying land from someone and turning it into road. Do they have one way roads for rural schools in Germany? Because I looked at a few Grundschule in Bavaria on Google maps and didn’t see any.\n
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          You’ll have a hard time finding a village with *literally* one single road. Certainly not one 1-2k which is the size that gets the school for the surrounding ones.\n
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          > It is cheaper and more convenient to have a speed camera that is active only during school hours.\n
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          And also completely ineffective at preventing anything.Heck at least use road bumps. Narrow the road only in spots so that two monster trucks if you please fit on comfortably side by side for 50-100m or such, but then it narrows down to half that for just 5m. While you’re at it build a crossing there, narrowing the roads at pedestrian crossing is standard practice in many places and it makes a hell a lot of sense. Yes, that slows down traffic because you might have to negotiate with oncoming traffic who goes first. Yes, that’s precisely the point.
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    > A block in the US doesn’t mean a square either.\n
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    Yes, great, blame a non native speaker for expressing himself incorrectly, correcting himself, and then quadruple down on it. I was thinking of unprioritised NY-style blocks you see all over the place in US cities, gridlock magnets. You know, places where people say “down the block” and generally measure distances in blocks.\n
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    If you look back at that Hamburg link, at those streets internal to the superblock, you’ll notice that they *are* wide enough for buses to go through. There’s no regular bus lines through there (there’s two metro stations and plenty of bus stops surrounding it) but a school bus isn’t regular service, it doesn’t need to play by the same rules. You can make a pickup at one of those very spacious intersections. It’s not being done because there’s schools in walking distance and German kids can cross roads but it *could* be done. Would you, however, ever speed on those roads.
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      EDIT: since apparently a bunch of people woke up with the wrong foot this morning or forgot to check the group they’re in:\n
      \n
      This is a joke. Do not steal or vandalize speed enforcement cameras (or anything else for that matter). That’s against the law and you will likely get arrested.\n
      \n
      If you’re addicted to crack or any other drugs, please seek professional help.
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          Why can’t you have one-way streets in a rural area? Fork off the main street on one end, merge on the other. Pedestrian and bicycle traffic can be bidirectional, cars can take a little detour they don’t use muscle energy.\n
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          > > Wide enough for one pickup and no opposing traffic, but so narrow that two pickups are going to really have to negotiate to move around each other."\n
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          How does that translate to "block the street for buses? If a street fits two pickups it fits two buses. They’ll have to negotiate to move around each other so if you have many (which, as I told you a lot, you shouldn’t) you should consider a one-way road, or maybe a meeting bay, or a wider street with choke points, or whatever. But it’s not “blocking the road for buses”.
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          > Schools have more than one bus and they have to pass each other.\n
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          No they don’t they can enter from the same side. You’re just looking for excuses. Also why do you need buses in the first place why aren’t the kids walking or biking.
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          > That’s a main road.\n
          \n
          [No it isn’t](https://dictionary.cambridge.org/de/worterbuch/essential-amerikanisches-englisch/main-road):\n
          \n
          > a large road that goes from one town to another:\n
          \n
          And yes you also see residential buildings on main roads. The reason this is a residential and not main road is due to its size and position away from through-traffic. It’s a road where you have a quick look and then just cross, main roads are of the “eh I can look but I probably need to get to a crossing to get across” territory.\n
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          And no there’s no speed bumps why would there if the road is narrow enough and people naturally drive slow enough, there’s no through traffic, the residents don’t race on it, etc.
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          US suburbia has a higher density than the German countryside, having to travel 24km is nuts. That’d be defensible if you live in a tiny settlement 24km from a place with more than two dozen houses – I’m sure those exist in the US but suburbia isn’t that.\n
          \n
          How many pupils were there at your school? My state has 106240 pupils in 393 primary schools, that’s an average of 270. Minimum size under ordinary circumstances is 80, the smallest is on Nordstrandischmoor: An island, 18 inhabitants, five families, one school, one teacher, two students, [here it is](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.5518864,8.8108853,16z?entry=ttu). That’s because we don’t do boarding in primary education so there’s a maximum tolerable commute time/distance, once those kids are old enough they’ll spend Monday through Friday on the mainland.\n
          \n
          If your system insists that a school have at least 2k students or such then, yes, of course, walking to school will be an impossibility for most. Fix your school sizes and like 99% of students will be able to walk or bike, use buses or minivans or whatnot for the rest we do that too (not really possible in Nordstrandischmoor, thing doesn’t even have a ferry but a rail link that’s only usable when the tide is low).\n
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          And no it wasn’t my school it was my Kindergarten, which wasn’t, by a long shot, the closest to home it was the one my parents chose. I mentioned it to say that biking 3.5km is something a 4yold can do, physically, without any issue at all really.
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          > Roads are typically 2 lanes one in each direction. You already know this because you said a solution would be to remove the lane marker.\n
          \n
          I’m someone else.\n
          \n
          > So you have a road with an elementary school, and 2 miles further down is a middle school. Even without that you have buses passing each other during pickup because busses only pickup kids on one side of the street so you don’t have young kids crossing roads.\n
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          Lots of questions here: Why can’t kids walk 500m to the next bus stop? Why are streets so unsafe so that kids can’t cross them?\n
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          Why assume that there’s no larger road in between those smaller roads? Roads generally form a hierarchy, you have big ones feeding into middle ones feeding into small ones. Small ones should absolutely be safe to cross, also without explicit crossings, because they’re traffic calmed and don’t have much traffic in the first place. That’s where houses and schools are, where there’s no through-traffic because even if they aren’t cul de sacs who would drive through a road you can’t drive fast on when there’s a mid-level road that you could take.\n
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          > What do you call a section of inner city bounded on all sides by a road in your country?\n
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          Straßenblock. Let me put it differently: We don’t have grids and nothing is regular. [This is about as grid-y as it gets](https://www.google.com/maps/@53.5753832,9.9851206,1090m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) and if you zoom in you’ll notice that the interior streets have no lane markers and some even are cobbled. Those connect to a street ( south, Hallerstraße) with bike lanes (don’t need those on smaller streets because there’s not enough traffic to warrant them), which connects to a four-lane (plus bus lane) street, Grindelalle, west. The intersection looks a bit crazy but it’s actually safe for pedestrians and you should’ve learned how to cross streets safely and what traffic lights are in Kindergarten. You’ve also been there with your parents (going shopping or whatever) a lot of times, nothing scary really. That kind of density and housing is probably illegal to build where you are (it’s illegal pretty much everywhere in the US and Canada).\n
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          And mind you Hamburg is awful when it comes to urbanism, way too car-centric. Not because of lack of public transport but because politicians are unwilling to kill off car traffic and the whole city is full of rich fucks with too much disposable income.
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          Let me look at a map… maybe 1km max anywhere in my 30k town to the next primary school and that’s when you’re living on the very very edge of town. Should be under 500m for most pupils.\n
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          If you’re living in a rural area, outside of the next village (which will have a school), which is an absolute exception as things tend to cluster into villages in rural areas, it might be 5km. Not really an issue with a bike, I biked what 3.5km to Kindergarten (together with my mom). If you have less density than that you probably should have boarding schools.\n
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          For secondary education, if you’re living in a village you’ll probably have to take the bus to the nearest city. Regular public transport though the schedule will take school times into account. Yes, kids can walk 500m to the nearest station.\n
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          Bonus: All that school density – smaller but way more of them – means that there’s obvious places to hold elections as there’s a municipality-owned place in Sunday stroll distance to pretty much everywhere. The only downside are the ludicrously low tables.
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          > A block in the US doesn’t mean a square either.\n
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          Yes, great, blame a non native speaker for expressing himself incorrectly, correcting himself, and then quadruple down on it. I was thinking of unprioritised NY-style blocks you see all over the place in US cities, gridlock magnets. You know, places where people say “down the block” and generally measure distances in blocks.\n
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          > It is required that children do not cross two lane roads to be picked up by school buses. I don’t make the rules. I don’t have a solution to US car culture. But making roads unpassable by school buses isn’t an answer.\n
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          If you look back at that Hamburg link, at those streets internal to the superblock, you’ll notice that they *are* wide enough for buses to go through. There’s no regular bus lines through there (there’s two metro stations and plenty of bus stops surrounding it) but a school bus isn’t regular service, it doesn’t need to play by the same rules. You can make a pickup at one of those very spacious intersections. It’s not being done because there’s schools in walking distance and German kids can cross roads but it *could* be done. Would you, however, ever speed on those roads.
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          > You have one bus going in one direction to a school passing another bus going to another school.\n
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          In front of a school? Are your schools connected directly to highways or something?\n
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          > Have you only lived in an inner city where roads can be one way because they alternate in direction every block?\n
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          We don’t have blocks.
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          > Grundschule Niederstotzingen\n
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          [That’s not on a main road](https://www.google.com/maps/place/Grundschule+Niederstotzingen/@48.5416064,10.2369723,16.33z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x479946d4d21d8af1:0x28d0eb80cb17df7f!8m2!3d48.54188!4d10.23954!16s%2Fg%2F1tgfvlcm?entry=ttu). Zoom out a bit, the main roads are the ones leading to other villages, named after those villages (or in the case of Ulm a city in that direction).\n
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          > Grundschule Pfaffenhofen\n
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          [neither](https://www.google.com/maps/place/Grundschule+Pfaffenhofen/@49.0620402,8.9749824,16.67z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x410b8f8ce5cb2efb:0x31c87e2000d06919!8m2!3d49.06201!4d8.97686!16s%2Fg%2F1tdqmls_?entry=ttu)\n
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          Didn’t check the rest\n
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          > Just like US schools, many have their own driveway that goes off the main road\n
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          Those are residential roads. [This a view of the Niederstotzingen school from the road it’s on](https://www.google.com/maps/@48.542406,10.2389314,3a,60y,119.92h,81.99t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sW-TbbzDmkVz_-XMnR0tqYg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu), the gymnasium is on the other side. Look up and down the road, there’s residential buildings there. Looking at the signage (or rather lack thereof), it’s two-way. No lane markings though small roads just don’t have them, you slow down and make sure to not shear off your side mirrors with the side mirrors of oncoming traffic. The little shack with a sign with an H is a bus stop. Only seems to be served by one bus line (at least I can’t find more), [here’s the schelude](https://www.ding.eu/fileadmin/content/downloads/ics/20230421-DING-EVG-Streik-RAB-Bus/593-Streik-RAB-Fahrten.pdf). It connects to two train stations (including thie Niederstotzingen one) roughly every 30 minutes. Frankly speaking you can walk from there you’ll be faster than waiting for the next bus.\n
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          Niederstotzingen is classed as a city btw, almost 5k inhabitants. It’s not really a size thing in Germany though and nowadays the title doesn’t have any legal meaning, city rights were granted by Kaiser Sigismund in 1430, meaning it served as the local trade hub or such. Congratulations, thanks to wikipedia I know now more about a tiny city I don’t care about in a state I don’t care for :)
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          > Cost. That separate road means buying land from someone and turning it into road. Do they have one way roads for rural schools in Germany? Because I looked at a few Grundschule in Bavaria on Google maps and didn’t see any.\n
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          You’ll have a hard time finding a village with *literally* one single road. Certainly not one 1-2k which is the size that gets the school for the surrounding ones.\n
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          > It is cheaper and more convenient to have a speed camera that is active only during school hours.\n
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          And also completely ineffective at preventing anything.Heck at least use road bumps. Narrow the road only in spots so that two monster trucks if you please fit on comfortably side by side for 50-100m or such, but then it narrows down to half that for just 5m. While you’re at it build a crossing there, narrowing the roads at pedestrian crossing is standard practice in many places and it makes a hell a lot of sense. Yes, that slows down traffic because you might have to negotiate with oncoming traffic who goes first. Yes, that’s precisely the point.
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    Things aren’t done differently, in principle, in villages. You were the one brining up blocks or did you mean “buildings surrounded by roads *and fields*”.\n
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    [This is Wacken](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.0275469,9.3755654,169m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) (*the* Wacken), I zoomed you in on the primary school. There’s surrounding villages without school so it’s bound to get bus traffic. Note how it’s on a street that’s wide enough for that, but not the main road, the one with all the through-traffic. Can you understand that principle. (Main Roads, actually, Wacken has two, Schenefelder and Hauptstraße).\n
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    > I only took issue with the ridiculous idea that the roads in front of rural US schools could be made safer by making them impassable by busses.\n
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    Noone ever said that? At least I didn’t.
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      EDIT: since apparently a bunch of people woke up with the wrong foot this morning or forgot to check the group they’re in:\n
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      This is a joke. Do not steal or vandalize speed enforcement cameras (or anything else for that matter). That’s against the law and you will likely get arrested.\n
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      If you’re addicted to crack or any other drugs, please seek professional help.
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          Why can’t you have one-way streets in a rural area? Fork off the main street on one end, merge on the other. Pedestrian and bicycle traffic can be bidirectional, cars can take a little detour they don’t use muscle energy.\n
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          > > Wide enough for one pickup and no opposing traffic, but so narrow that two pickups are going to really have to negotiate to move around each other."\n
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          How does that translate to "block the street for buses? If a street fits two pickups it fits two buses. They’ll have to negotiate to move around each other so if you have many (which, as I told you a lot, you shouldn’t) you should consider a one-way road, or maybe a meeting bay, or a wider street with choke points, or whatever. But it’s not “blocking the road for buses”.
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          > Schools have more than one bus and they have to pass each other.\n
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          No they don’t they can enter from the same side. You’re just looking for excuses. Also why do you need buses in the first place why aren’t the kids walking or biking.
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          > That’s a main road.\n
          \n
          [No it isn’t](https://dictionary.cambridge.org/de/worterbuch/essential-amerikanisches-englisch/main-road):\n
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          > a large road that goes from one town to another:\n
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          And yes you also see residential buildings on main roads. The reason this is a residential and not main road is due to its size and position away from through-traffic. It’s a road where you have a quick look and then just cross, main roads are of the “eh I can look but I probably need to get to a crossing to get across” territory.\n
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          And no there’s no speed bumps why would there if the road is narrow enough and people naturally drive slow enough, there’s no through traffic, the residents don’t race on it, etc.
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          US suburbia has a higher density than the German countryside, having to travel 24km is nuts. That’d be defensible if you live in a tiny settlement 24km from a place with more than two dozen houses – I’m sure those exist in the US but suburbia isn’t that.\n
          \n
          How many pupils were there at your school? My state has 106240 pupils in 393 primary schools, that’s an average of 270. Minimum size under ordinary circumstances is 80, the smallest is on Nordstrandischmoor: An island, 18 inhabitants, five families, one school, one teacher, two students, [here it is](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.5518864,8.8108853,16z?entry=ttu). That’s because we don’t do boarding in primary education so there’s a maximum tolerable commute time/distance, once those kids are old enough they’ll spend Monday through Friday on the mainland.\n
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          If your system insists that a school have at least 2k students or such then, yes, of course, walking to school will be an impossibility for most. Fix your school sizes and like 99% of students will be able to walk or bike, use buses or minivans or whatnot for the rest we do that too (not really possible in Nordstrandischmoor, thing doesn’t even have a ferry but a rail link that’s only usable when the tide is low).\n
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          And no it wasn’t my school it was my Kindergarten, which wasn’t, by a long shot, the closest to home it was the one my parents chose. I mentioned it to say that biking 3.5km is something a 4yold can do, physically, without any issue at all really.
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          > Roads are typically 2 lanes one in each direction. You already know this because you said a solution would be to remove the lane marker.\n
          \n
          I’m someone else.\n
          \n
          > So you have a road with an elementary school, and 2 miles further down is a middle school. Even without that you have buses passing each other during pickup because busses only pickup kids on one side of the street so you don’t have young kids crossing roads.\n
          \n
          Lots of questions here: Why can’t kids walk 500m to the next bus stop? Why are streets so unsafe so that kids can’t cross them?\n
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          Why assume that there’s no larger road in between those smaller roads? Roads generally form a hierarchy, you have big ones feeding into middle ones feeding into small ones. Small ones should absolutely be safe to cross, also without explicit crossings, because they’re traffic calmed and don’t have much traffic in the first place. That’s where houses and schools are, where there’s no through-traffic because even if they aren’t cul de sacs who would drive through a road you can’t drive fast on when there’s a mid-level road that you could take.\n
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          > What do you call a section of inner city bounded on all sides by a road in your country?\n
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          Straßenblock. Let me put it differently: We don’t have grids and nothing is regular. [This is about as grid-y as it gets](https://www.google.com/maps/@53.5753832,9.9851206,1090m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) and if you zoom in you’ll notice that the interior streets have no lane markers and some even are cobbled. Those connect to a street ( south, Hallerstraße) with bike lanes (don’t need those on smaller streets because there’s not enough traffic to warrant them), which connects to a four-lane (plus bus lane) street, Grindelalle, west. The intersection looks a bit crazy but it’s actually safe for pedestrians and you should’ve learned how to cross streets safely and what traffic lights are in Kindergarten. You’ve also been there with your parents (going shopping or whatever) a lot of times, nothing scary really. That kind of density and housing is probably illegal to build where you are (it’s illegal pretty much everywhere in the US and Canada).\n
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          And mind you Hamburg is awful when it comes to urbanism, way too car-centric. Not because of lack of public transport but because politicians are unwilling to kill off car traffic and the whole city is full of rich fucks with too much disposable income.
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          Let me look at a map… maybe 1km max anywhere in my 30k town to the next primary school and that’s when you’re living on the very very edge of town. Should be under 500m for most pupils.\n
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          If you’re living in a rural area, outside of the next village (which will have a school), which is an absolute exception as things tend to cluster into villages in rural areas, it might be 5km. Not really an issue with a bike, I biked what 3.5km to Kindergarten (together with my mom). If you have less density than that you probably should have boarding schools.\n
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          For secondary education, if you’re living in a village you’ll probably have to take the bus to the nearest city. Regular public transport though the schedule will take school times into account. Yes, kids can walk 500m to the nearest station.\n
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          Bonus: All that school density – smaller but way more of them – means that there’s obvious places to hold elections as there’s a municipality-owned place in Sunday stroll distance to pretty much everywhere. The only downside are the ludicrously low tables.
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          > A block in the US doesn’t mean a square either.\n
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          Yes, great, blame a non native speaker for expressing himself incorrectly, correcting himself, and then quadruple down on it. I was thinking of unprioritised NY-style blocks you see all over the place in US cities, gridlock magnets. You know, places where people say “down the block” and generally measure distances in blocks.\n
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          > It is required that children do not cross two lane roads to be picked up by school buses. I don’t make the rules. I don’t have a solution to US car culture. But making roads unpassable by school buses isn’t an answer.\n
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          If you look back at that Hamburg link, at those streets internal to the superblock, you’ll notice that they *are* wide enough for buses to go through. There’s no regular bus lines through there (there’s two metro stations and plenty of bus stops surrounding it) but a school bus isn’t regular service, it doesn’t need to play by the same rules. You can make a pickup at one of those very spacious intersections. It’s not being done because there’s schools in walking distance and German kids can cross roads but it *could* be done. Would you, however, ever speed on those roads.
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          > You have one bus going in one direction to a school passing another bus going to another school.\n
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          In front of a school? Are your schools connected directly to highways or something?\n
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          > Have you only lived in an inner city where roads can be one way because they alternate in direction every block?\n
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          We don’t have blocks.
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          > Grundschule Niederstotzingen\n
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          [That’s not on a main road](https://www.google.com/maps/place/Grundschule+Niederstotzingen/@48.5416064,10.2369723,16.33z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x479946d4d21d8af1:0x28d0eb80cb17df7f!8m2!3d48.54188!4d10.23954!16s%2Fg%2F1tgfvlcm?entry=ttu). Zoom out a bit, the main roads are the ones leading to other villages, named after those villages (or in the case of Ulm a city in that direction).\n
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          > Grundschule Pfaffenhofen\n
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          [neither](https://www.google.com/maps/place/Grundschule+Pfaffenhofen/@49.0620402,8.9749824,16.67z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x410b8f8ce5cb2efb:0x31c87e2000d06919!8m2!3d49.06201!4d8.97686!16s%2Fg%2F1tdqmls_?entry=ttu)\n
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          Didn’t check the rest\n
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          > Just like US schools, many have their own driveway that goes off the main road\n
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          Those are residential roads. [This a view of the Niederstotzingen school from the road it’s on](https://www.google.com/maps/@48.542406,10.2389314,3a,60y,119.92h,81.99t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sW-TbbzDmkVz_-XMnR0tqYg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu), the gymnasium is on the other side. Look up and down the road, there’s residential buildings there. Looking at the signage (or rather lack thereof), it’s two-way. No lane markings though small roads just don’t have them, you slow down and make sure to not shear off your side mirrors with the side mirrors of oncoming traffic. The little shack with a sign with an H is a bus stop. Only seems to be served by one bus line (at least I can’t find more), [here’s the schelude](https://www.ding.eu/fileadmin/content/downloads/ics/20230421-DING-EVG-Streik-RAB-Bus/593-Streik-RAB-Fahrten.pdf). It connects to two train stations (including thie Niederstotzingen one) roughly every 30 minutes. Frankly speaking you can walk from there you’ll be faster than waiting for the next bus.\n
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          Niederstotzingen is classed as a city btw, almost 5k inhabitants. It’s not really a size thing in Germany though and nowadays the title doesn’t have any legal meaning, city rights were granted by Kaiser Sigismund in 1430, meaning it served as the local trade hub or such. Congratulations, thanks to wikipedia I know now more about a tiny city I don’t care about in a state I don’t care for :)
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          > Cost. That separate road means buying land from someone and turning it into road. Do they have one way roads for rural schools in Germany? Because I looked at a few Grundschule in Bavaria on Google maps and didn’t see any.\n
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          You’ll have a hard time finding a village with *literally* one single road. Certainly not one 1-2k which is the size that gets the school for the surrounding ones.\n
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          > It is cheaper and more convenient to have a speed camera that is active only during school hours.\n
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          And also completely ineffective at preventing anything.Heck at least use road bumps. Narrow the road only in spots so that two monster trucks if you please fit on comfortably side by side for 50-100m or such, but then it narrows down to half that for just 5m. While you’re at it build a crossing there, narrowing the roads at pedestrian crossing is standard practice in many places and it makes a hell a lot of sense. Yes, that slows down traffic because you might have to negotiate with oncoming traffic who goes first. Yes, that’s precisely the point.
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    Things aren’t done differently, in principle, in villages. You were the one brining up blocks or did you mean “buildings surrounded by roads *and fields*”.\n
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    [This is Wacken](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.0275469,9.3755654,169m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) (*the* Wacken), I zoomed you in on the primary school. There’s surrounding villages without school so it’s bound to get bus traffic. Note how it’s on a street that’s wide enough for that, but not the main road, the one with all the through-traffic. Can you understand that principle. (Main Roads, actually, Wacken has two, Schenefelder and Hauptstraße).\n
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    Noone ever said that? At least I didn’t.
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      EDIT: since apparently a bunch of people woke up with the wrong foot this morning or forgot to check the group they’re in:\n
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      This is a joke. Do not steal or vandalize speed enforcement cameras (or anything else for that matter). That’s against the law and you will likely get arrested.\n
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      If you’re addicted to crack or any other drugs, please seek professional help.
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          Why can’t you have one-way streets in a rural area? Fork off the main street on one end, merge on the other. Pedestrian and bicycle traffic can be bidirectional, cars can take a little detour they don’t use muscle energy.\n
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          > > Wide enough for one pickup and no opposing traffic, but so narrow that two pickups are going to really have to negotiate to move around each other."\n
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          How does that translate to "block the street for buses? If a street fits two pickups it fits two buses. They’ll have to negotiate to move around each other so if you have many (which, as I told you a lot, you shouldn’t) you should consider a one-way road, or maybe a meeting bay, or a wider street with choke points, or whatever. But it’s not “blocking the road for buses”.
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          > Schools have more than one bus and they have to pass each other.\n
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          No they don’t they can enter from the same side. You’re just looking for excuses. Also why do you need buses in the first place why aren’t the kids walking or biking.
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          > That’s a main road.\n
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          [No it isn’t](https://dictionary.cambridge.org/de/worterbuch/essential-amerikanisches-englisch/main-road):\n
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          > a large road that goes from one town to another:\n
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          And yes you also see residential buildings on main roads. The reason this is a residential and not main road is due to its size and position away from through-traffic. It’s a road where you have a quick look and then just cross, main roads are of the “eh I can look but I probably need to get to a crossing to get across” territory.\n
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          US suburbia has a higher density than the German countryside, having to travel 24km is nuts. That’d be defensible if you live in a tiny settlement 24km from a place with more than two dozen houses – I’m sure those exist in the US but suburbia isn’t that.\n
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          How many pupils were there at your school? My state has 106240 pupils in 393 primary schools, that’s an average of 270. Minimum size under ordinary circumstances is 80, the smallest is on Nordstrandischmoor: An island, 18 inhabitants, five families, one school, one teacher, two students, [here it is](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.5518864,8.8108853,16z?entry=ttu). That’s because we don’t do boarding in primary education so there’s a maximum tolerable commute time/distance, once those kids are old enough they’ll spend Monday through Friday on the mainland.\n
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          If your system insists that a school have at least 2k students or such then, yes, of course, walking to school will be an impossibility for most. Fix your school sizes and like 99% of students will be able to walk or bike, use buses or minivans or whatnot for the rest we do that too (not really possible in Nordstrandischmoor, thing doesn’t even have a ferry but a rail link that’s only usable when the tide is low).\n
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          And no it wasn’t my school it was my Kindergarten, which wasn’t, by a long shot, the closest to home it was the one my parents chose. I mentioned it to say that biking 3.5km is something a 4yold can do, physically, without any issue at all really.
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          > Roads are typically 2 lanes one in each direction. You already know this because you said a solution would be to remove the lane marker.\n
          \n
          I’m someone else.\n
          \n
          > So you have a road with an elementary school, and 2 miles further down is a middle school. Even without that you have buses passing each other during pickup because busses only pickup kids on one side of the street so you don’t have young kids crossing roads.\n
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          Lots of questions here: Why can’t kids walk 500m to the next bus stop? Why are streets so unsafe so that kids can’t cross them?\n
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          Why assume that there’s no larger road in between those smaller roads? Roads generally form a hierarchy, you have big ones feeding into middle ones feeding into small ones. Small ones should absolutely be safe to cross, also without explicit crossings, because they’re traffic calmed and don’t have much traffic in the first place. That’s where houses and schools are, where there’s no through-traffic because even if they aren’t cul de sacs who would drive through a road you can’t drive fast on when there’s a mid-level road that you could take.\n
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          > What do you call a section of inner city bounded on all sides by a road in your country?\n
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          Straßenblock. Let me put it differently: We don’t have grids and nothing is regular. [This is about as grid-y as it gets](https://www.google.com/maps/@53.5753832,9.9851206,1090m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) and if you zoom in you’ll notice that the interior streets have no lane markers and some even are cobbled. Those connect to a street ( south, Hallerstraße) with bike lanes (don’t need those on smaller streets because there’s not enough traffic to warrant them), which connects to a four-lane (plus bus lane) street, Grindelalle, west. The intersection looks a bit crazy but it’s actually safe for pedestrians and you should’ve learned how to cross streets safely and what traffic lights are in Kindergarten. You’ve also been there with your parents (going shopping or whatever) a lot of times, nothing scary really. That kind of density and housing is probably illegal to build where you are (it’s illegal pretty much everywhere in the US and Canada).\n
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          And mind you Hamburg is awful when it comes to urbanism, way too car-centric. Not because of lack of public transport but because politicians are unwilling to kill off car traffic and the whole city is full of rich fucks with too much disposable income.
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          Let me look at a map… maybe 1km max anywhere in my 30k town to the next primary school and that’s when you’re living on the very very edge of town. Should be under 500m for most pupils.\n
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          If you’re living in a rural area, outside of the next village (which will have a school), which is an absolute exception as things tend to cluster into villages in rural areas, it might be 5km. Not really an issue with a bike, I biked what 3.5km to Kindergarten (together with my mom). If you have less density than that you probably should have boarding schools.\n
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          For secondary education, if you’re living in a village you’ll probably have to take the bus to the nearest city. Regular public transport though the schedule will take school times into account. Yes, kids can walk 500m to the nearest station.\n
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          Bonus: All that school density – smaller but way more of them – means that there’s obvious places to hold elections as there’s a municipality-owned place in Sunday stroll distance to pretty much everywhere. The only downside are the ludicrously low tables.
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          > A block in the US doesn’t mean a square either.\n
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          Yes, great, blame a non native speaker for expressing himself incorrectly, correcting himself, and then quadruple down on it. I was thinking of unprioritised NY-style blocks you see all over the place in US cities, gridlock magnets. You know, places where people say “down the block” and generally measure distances in blocks.\n
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          > It is required that children do not cross two lane roads to be picked up by school buses. I don’t make the rules. I don’t have a solution to US car culture. But making roads unpassable by school buses isn’t an answer.\n
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          If you look back at that Hamburg link, at those streets internal to the superblock, you’ll notice that they *are* wide enough for buses to go through. There’s no regular bus lines through there (there’s two metro stations and plenty of bus stops surrounding it) but a school bus isn’t regular service, it doesn’t need to play by the same rules. You can make a pickup at one of those very spacious intersections. It’s not being done because there’s schools in walking distance and German kids can cross roads but it *could* be done. Would you, however, ever speed on those roads.
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          > You have one bus going in one direction to a school passing another bus going to another school.\n
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          In front of a school? Are your schools connected directly to highways or something?\n
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          > Have you only lived in an inner city where roads can be one way because they alternate in direction every block?\n
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          We don’t have blocks.
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          > Grundschule Niederstotzingen\n
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          [That’s not on a main road](https://www.google.com/maps/place/Grundschule+Niederstotzingen/@48.5416064,10.2369723,16.33z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x479946d4d21d8af1:0x28d0eb80cb17df7f!8m2!3d48.54188!4d10.23954!16s%2Fg%2F1tgfvlcm?entry=ttu). Zoom out a bit, the main roads are the ones leading to other villages, named after those villages (or in the case of Ulm a city in that direction).\n
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          > Grundschule Pfaffenhofen\n
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          [neither](https://www.google.com/maps/place/Grundschule+Pfaffenhofen/@49.0620402,8.9749824,16.67z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x410b8f8ce5cb2efb:0x31c87e2000d06919!8m2!3d49.06201!4d8.97686!16s%2Fg%2F1tdqmls_?entry=ttu)\n
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          Didn’t check the rest\n
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          > Just like US schools, many have their own driveway that goes off the main road\n
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          Those are residential roads. [This a view of the Niederstotzingen school from the road it’s on](https://www.google.com/maps/@48.542406,10.2389314,3a,60y,119.92h,81.99t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sW-TbbzDmkVz_-XMnR0tqYg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu), the gymnasium is on the other side. Look up and down the road, there’s residential buildings there. Looking at the signage (or rather lack thereof), it’s two-way. No lane markings though small roads just don’t have them, you slow down and make sure to not shear off your side mirrors with the side mirrors of oncoming traffic. The little shack with a sign with an H is a bus stop. Only seems to be served by one bus line (at least I can’t find more), [here’s the schelude](https://www.ding.eu/fileadmin/content/downloads/ics/20230421-DING-EVG-Streik-RAB-Bus/593-Streik-RAB-Fahrten.pdf). It connects to two train stations (including thie Niederstotzingen one) roughly every 30 minutes. Frankly speaking you can walk from there you’ll be faster than waiting for the next bus.\n
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          Niederstotzingen is classed as a city btw, almost 5k inhabitants. It’s not really a size thing in Germany though and nowadays the title doesn’t have any legal meaning, city rights were granted by Kaiser Sigismund in 1430, meaning it served as the local trade hub or such. Congratulations, thanks to wikipedia I know now more about a tiny city I don’t care about in a state I don’t care for :)
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          > Cost. That separate road means buying land from someone and turning it into road. Do they have one way roads for rural schools in Germany? Because I looked at a few Grundschule in Bavaria on Google maps and didn’t see any.\n
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          You’ll have a hard time finding a village with *literally* one single road. Certainly not one 1-2k which is the size that gets the school for the surrounding ones.\n
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          And also completely ineffective at preventing anything.Heck at least use road bumps. Narrow the road only in spots so that two monster trucks if you please fit on comfortably side by side for 50-100m or such, but then it narrows down to half that for just 5m. While you’re at it build a crossing there, narrowing the roads at pedestrian crossing is standard practice in many places and it makes a hell a lot of sense. Yes, that slows down traffic because you might have to negotiate with oncoming traffic who goes first. Yes, that’s precisely the point.
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    Things aren’t done differently, in principle, in villages. You were the one brining up blocks or did you mean “buildings surrounded by roads *and fields*”.\n
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    [This is Wacken](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.0275469,9.3755654,169m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) (*the* Wacken), I zoomed you in on the primary school. There’s surrounding villages without school so it’s bound to get bus traffic. Note how it’s on a street that’s wide enough for that, but not the main road, the one with all the through-traffic. Can you understand that principle. (Main Roads, actually, Wacken has two, Schenefelder and Hauptstraße).\n
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          Why can’t you have one-way streets in a rural area? Fork off the main street on one end, merge on the other. Pedestrian and bicycle traffic can be bidirectional, cars can take a little detour they don’t use muscle energy.\n
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          > Schools have more than one bus and they have to pass each other.\n
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          > That’s a main road.\n
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          US suburbia has a higher density than the German countryside, having to travel 24km is nuts. That’d be defensible if you live in a tiny settlement 24km from a place with more than two dozen houses – I’m sure those exist in the US but suburbia isn’t that.\n
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          How many pupils were there at your school? My state has 106240 pupils in 393 primary schools, that’s an average of 270. Minimum size under ordinary circumstances is 80, the smallest is on Nordstrandischmoor: An island, 18 inhabitants, five families, one school, one teacher, two students, [here it is](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.5518864,8.8108853,16z?entry=ttu). That’s because we don’t do boarding in primary education so there’s a maximum tolerable commute time/distance, once those kids are old enough they’ll spend Monday through Friday on the mainland.\n
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          If your system insists that a school have at least 2k students or such then, yes, of course, walking to school will be an impossibility for most. Fix your school sizes and like 99% of students will be able to walk or bike, use buses or minivans or whatnot for the rest we do that too (not really possible in Nordstrandischmoor, thing doesn’t even have a ferry but a rail link that’s only usable when the tide is low).\n
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          And no it wasn’t my school it was my Kindergarten, which wasn’t, by a long shot, the closest to home it was the one my parents chose. I mentioned it to say that biking 3.5km is something a 4yold can do, physically, without any issue at all really.
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          > Roads are typically 2 lanes one in each direction. You already know this because you said a solution would be to remove the lane marker.\n
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          I’m someone else.\n
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          > So you have a road with an elementary school, and 2 miles further down is a middle school. Even without that you have buses passing each other during pickup because busses only pickup kids on one side of the street so you don’t have young kids crossing roads.\n
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          Lots of questions here: Why can’t kids walk 500m to the next bus stop? Why are streets so unsafe so that kids can’t cross them?\n
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          Why assume that there’s no larger road in between those smaller roads? Roads generally form a hierarchy, you have big ones feeding into middle ones feeding into small ones. Small ones should absolutely be safe to cross, also without explicit crossings, because they’re traffic calmed and don’t have much traffic in the first place. That’s where houses and schools are, where there’s no through-traffic because even if they aren’t cul de sacs who would drive through a road you can’t drive fast on when there’s a mid-level road that you could take.\n
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          > What do you call a section of inner city bounded on all sides by a road in your country?\n
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          Straßenblock. Let me put it differently: We don’t have grids and nothing is regular. [This is about as grid-y as it gets](https://www.google.com/maps/@53.5753832,9.9851206,1090m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) and if you zoom in you’ll notice that the interior streets have no lane markers and some even are cobbled. Those connect to a street ( south, Hallerstraße) with bike lanes (don’t need those on smaller streets because there’s not enough traffic to warrant them), which connects to a four-lane (plus bus lane) street, Grindelalle, west. The intersection looks a bit crazy but it’s actually safe for pedestrians and you should’ve learned how to cross streets safely and what traffic lights are in Kindergarten. You’ve also been there with your parents (going shopping or whatever) a lot of times, nothing scary really. That kind of density and housing is probably illegal to build where you are (it’s illegal pretty much everywhere in the US and Canada).\n
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          And mind you Hamburg is awful when it comes to urbanism, way too car-centric. Not because of lack of public transport but because politicians are unwilling to kill off car traffic and the whole city is full of rich fucks with too much disposable income.
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          Let me look at a map… maybe 1km max anywhere in my 30k town to the next primary school and that’s when you’re living on the very very edge of town. Should be under 500m for most pupils.\n
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          If you’re living in a rural area, outside of the next village (which will have a school), which is an absolute exception as things tend to cluster into villages in rural areas, it might be 5km. Not really an issue with a bike, I biked what 3.5km to Kindergarten (together with my mom). If you have less density than that you probably should have boarding schools.\n
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          For secondary education, if you’re living in a village you’ll probably have to take the bus to the nearest city. Regular public transport though the schedule will take school times into account. Yes, kids can walk 500m to the nearest station.\n
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          Bonus: All that school density – smaller but way more of them – means that there’s obvious places to hold elections as there’s a municipality-owned place in Sunday stroll distance to pretty much everywhere. The only downside are the ludicrously low tables.
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          > A block in the US doesn’t mean a square either.\n
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          Yes, great, blame a non native speaker for expressing himself incorrectly, correcting himself, and then quadruple down on it. I was thinking of unprioritised NY-style blocks you see all over the place in US cities, gridlock magnets. You know, places where people say “down the block” and generally measure distances in blocks.\n
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          > It is required that children do not cross two lane roads to be picked up by school buses. I don’t make the rules. I don’t have a solution to US car culture. But making roads unpassable by school buses isn’t an answer.\n
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          If you look back at that Hamburg link, at those streets internal to the superblock, you’ll notice that they *are* wide enough for buses to go through. There’s no regular bus lines through there (there’s two metro stations and plenty of bus stops surrounding it) but a school bus isn’t regular service, it doesn’t need to play by the same rules. You can make a pickup at one of those very spacious intersections. It’s not being done because there’s schools in walking distance and German kids can cross roads but it *could* be done. Would you, however, ever speed on those roads.
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          Things aren’t done differently, in principle, in villages. You were the one brining up blocks or did you mean “buildings surrounded by roads *and fields*”.\n
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          [This is Wacken](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.0275469,9.3755654,169m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) (*the* Wacken), I zoomed you in on the primary school. There’s surrounding villages without school so it’s bound to get bus traffic. Note how it’s on a street that’s wide enough for that, but not the main road, the one with all the through-traffic. Can you understand that principle. (Main Roads, actually, Wacken has two, Schenefelder and Hauptstraße).\n
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          > I only took issue with the ridiculous idea that the roads in front of rural US schools could be made safer by making them impassable by busses.\n
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          Noone ever said that? At least I didn’t.
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          > Grundschule Niederstotzingen\n
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          [That’s not on a main road](https://www.google.com/maps/place/Grundschule+Niederstotzingen/@48.5416064,10.2369723,16.33z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x479946d4d21d8af1:0x28d0eb80cb17df7f!8m2!3d48.54188!4d10.23954!16s%2Fg%2F1tgfvlcm?entry=ttu). Zoom out a bit, the main roads are the ones leading to other villages, named after those villages (or in the case of Ulm a city in that direction).\n
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          > Grundschule Pfaffenhofen\n
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          [neither](https://www.google.com/maps/place/Grundschule+Pfaffenhofen/@49.0620402,8.9749824,16.67z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x410b8f8ce5cb2efb:0x31c87e2000d06919!8m2!3d49.06201!4d8.97686!16s%2Fg%2F1tdqmls_?entry=ttu)\n
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          Didn’t check the rest\n
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          > Just like US schools, many have their own driveway that goes off the main road\n
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          Those are residential roads. [This a view of the Niederstotzingen school from the road it’s on](https://www.google.com/maps/@48.542406,10.2389314,3a,60y,119.92h,81.99t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sW-TbbzDmkVz_-XMnR0tqYg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu), the gymnasium is on the other side. Look up and down the road, there’s residential buildings there. Looking at the signage (or rather lack thereof), it’s two-way. No lane markings though small roads just don’t have them, you slow down and make sure to not shear off your side mirrors with the side mirrors of oncoming traffic. The little shack with a sign with an H is a bus stop. Only seems to be served by one bus line (at least I can’t find more), [here’s the schelude](https://www.ding.eu/fileadmin/content/downloads/ics/20230421-DING-EVG-Streik-RAB-Bus/593-Streik-RAB-Fahrten.pdf). It connects to two train stations (including thie Niederstotzingen one) roughly every 30 minutes. Frankly speaking you can walk from there you’ll be faster than waiting for the next bus.\n
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          Niederstotzingen is classed as a city btw, almost 5k inhabitants. It’s not really a size thing in Germany though and nowadays the title doesn’t have any legal meaning, city rights were granted by Kaiser Sigismund in 1430, meaning it served as the local trade hub or such. Congratulations, thanks to wikipedia I know now more about a tiny city I don’t care about in a state I don’t care for :)
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          > Cost. That separate road means buying land from someone and turning it into road. Do they have one way roads for rural schools in Germany? Because I looked at a few Grundschule in Bavaria on Google maps and didn’t see any.\n
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          You’ll have a hard time finding a village with *literally* one single road. Certainly not one 1-2k which is the size that gets the school for the surrounding ones.\n
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          And also completely ineffective at preventing anything.Heck at least use road bumps. Narrow the road only in spots so that two monster trucks if you please fit on comfortably side by side for 50-100m or such, but then it narrows down to half that for just 5m. While you’re at it build a crossing there, narrowing the roads at pedestrian crossing is standard practice in many places and it makes a hell a lot of sense. Yes, that slows down traffic because you might have to negotiate with oncoming traffic who goes first. Yes, that’s precisely the point.
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    We don’t have blocks.
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          Why can’t you have one-way streets in a rural area? Fork off the main street on one end, merge on the other. Pedestrian and bicycle traffic can be bidirectional, cars can take a little detour they don’t use muscle energy.\n
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          > Schools have more than one bus and they have to pass each other.\n
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          No they don’t they can enter from the same side. You’re just looking for excuses. Also why do you need buses in the first place why aren’t the kids walking or biking.
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          > That’s a main road.\n
          \n
          [No it isn’t](https://dictionary.cambridge.org/de/worterbuch/essential-amerikanisches-englisch/main-road):\n
          \n
          > a large road that goes from one town to another:\n
          \n
          And yes you also see residential buildings on main roads. The reason this is a residential and not main road is due to its size and position away from through-traffic. It’s a road where you have a quick look and then just cross, main roads are of the “eh I can look but I probably need to get to a crossing to get across” territory.\n
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          And no there’s no speed bumps why would there if the road is narrow enough and people naturally drive slow enough, there’s no through traffic, the residents don’t race on it, etc.
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          US suburbia has a higher density than the German countryside, having to travel 24km is nuts. That’d be defensible if you live in a tiny settlement 24km from a place with more than two dozen houses – I’m sure those exist in the US but suburbia isn’t that.\n
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          How many pupils were there at your school? My state has 106240 pupils in 393 primary schools, that’s an average of 270. Minimum size under ordinary circumstances is 80, the smallest is on Nordstrandischmoor: An island, 18 inhabitants, five families, one school, one teacher, two students, [here it is](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.5518864,8.8108853,16z?entry=ttu). That’s because we don’t do boarding in primary education so there’s a maximum tolerable commute time/distance, once those kids are old enough they’ll spend Monday through Friday on the mainland.\n
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          If your system insists that a school have at least 2k students or such then, yes, of course, walking to school will be an impossibility for most. Fix your school sizes and like 99% of students will be able to walk or bike, use buses or minivans or whatnot for the rest we do that too (not really possible in Nordstrandischmoor, thing doesn’t even have a ferry but a rail link that’s only usable when the tide is low).\n
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          And no it wasn’t my school it was my Kindergarten, which wasn’t, by a long shot, the closest to home it was the one my parents chose. I mentioned it to say that biking 3.5km is something a 4yold can do, physically, without any issue at all really.
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          > Roads are typically 2 lanes one in each direction. You already know this because you said a solution would be to remove the lane marker.\n
          \n
          I’m someone else.\n
          \n
          > So you have a road with an elementary school, and 2 miles further down is a middle school. Even without that you have buses passing each other during pickup because busses only pickup kids on one side of the street so you don’t have young kids crossing roads.\n
          \n
          Lots of questions here: Why can’t kids walk 500m to the next bus stop? Why are streets so unsafe so that kids can’t cross them?\n
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          Why assume that there’s no larger road in between those smaller roads? Roads generally form a hierarchy, you have big ones feeding into middle ones feeding into small ones. Small ones should absolutely be safe to cross, also without explicit crossings, because they’re traffic calmed and don’t have much traffic in the first place. That’s where houses and schools are, where there’s no through-traffic because even if they aren’t cul de sacs who would drive through a road you can’t drive fast on when there’s a mid-level road that you could take.\n
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          > What do you call a section of inner city bounded on all sides by a road in your country?\n
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          Straßenblock. Let me put it differently: We don’t have grids and nothing is regular. [This is about as grid-y as it gets](https://www.google.com/maps/@53.5753832,9.9851206,1090m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) and if you zoom in you’ll notice that the interior streets have no lane markers and some even are cobbled. Those connect to a street ( south, Hallerstraße) with bike lanes (don’t need those on smaller streets because there’s not enough traffic to warrant them), which connects to a four-lane (plus bus lane) street, Grindelalle, west. The intersection looks a bit crazy but it’s actually safe for pedestrians and you should’ve learned how to cross streets safely and what traffic lights are in Kindergarten. You’ve also been there with your parents (going shopping or whatever) a lot of times, nothing scary really. That kind of density and housing is probably illegal to build where you are (it’s illegal pretty much everywhere in the US and Canada).\n
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          And mind you Hamburg is awful when it comes to urbanism, way too car-centric. Not because of lack of public transport but because politicians are unwilling to kill off car traffic and the whole city is full of rich fucks with too much disposable income.
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          Let me look at a map… maybe 1km max anywhere in my 30k town to the next primary school and that’s when you’re living on the very very edge of town. Should be under 500m for most pupils.\n
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          If you’re living in a rural area, outside of the next village (which will have a school), which is an absolute exception as things tend to cluster into villages in rural areas, it might be 5km. Not really an issue with a bike, I biked what 3.5km to Kindergarten (together with my mom). If you have less density than that you probably should have boarding schools.\n
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          For secondary education, if you’re living in a village you’ll probably have to take the bus to the nearest city. Regular public transport though the schedule will take school times into account. Yes, kids can walk 500m to the nearest station.\n
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          Bonus: All that school density – smaller but way more of them – means that there’s obvious places to hold elections as there’s a municipality-owned place in Sunday stroll distance to pretty much everywhere. The only downside are the ludicrously low tables.
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          > A block in the US doesn’t mean a square either.\n
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          Yes, great, blame a non native speaker for expressing himself incorrectly, correcting himself, and then quadruple down on it. I was thinking of unprioritised NY-style blocks you see all over the place in US cities, gridlock magnets. You know, places where people say “down the block” and generally measure distances in blocks.\n
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          > It is required that children do not cross two lane roads to be picked up by school buses. I don’t make the rules. I don’t have a solution to US car culture. But making roads unpassable by school buses isn’t an answer.\n
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          If you look back at that Hamburg link, at those streets internal to the superblock, you’ll notice that they *are* wide enough for buses to go through. There’s no regular bus lines through there (there’s two metro stations and plenty of bus stops surrounding it) but a school bus isn’t regular service, it doesn’t need to play by the same rules. You can make a pickup at one of those very spacious intersections. It’s not being done because there’s schools in walking distance and German kids can cross roads but it *could* be done. Would you, however, ever speed on those roads.
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          Things aren’t done differently, in principle, in villages. You were the one brining up blocks or did you mean “buildings surrounded by roads *and fields*”.\n
          \n
          [This is Wacken](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.0275469,9.3755654,169m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) (*the* Wacken), I zoomed you in on the primary school. There’s surrounding villages without school so it’s bound to get bus traffic. Note how it’s on a street that’s wide enough for that, but not the main road, the one with all the through-traffic. Can you understand that principle. (Main Roads, actually, Wacken has two, Schenefelder and Hauptstraße).\n
          \n
          > I only took issue with the ridiculous idea that the roads in front of rural US schools could be made safer by making them impassable by busses.\n
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          Noone ever said that? At least I didn’t.
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          > Grundschule Niederstotzingen\n
          \n
          [That’s not on a main road](https://www.google.com/maps/place/Grundschule+Niederstotzingen/@48.5416064,10.2369723,16.33z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x479946d4d21d8af1:0x28d0eb80cb17df7f!8m2!3d48.54188!4d10.23954!16s%2Fg%2F1tgfvlcm?entry=ttu). Zoom out a bit, the main roads are the ones leading to other villages, named after those villages (or in the case of Ulm a city in that direction).\n
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          > Grundschule Pfaffenhofen\n
          \n
          [neither](https://www.google.com/maps/place/Grundschule+Pfaffenhofen/@49.0620402,8.9749824,16.67z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x410b8f8ce5cb2efb:0x31c87e2000d06919!8m2!3d49.06201!4d8.97686!16s%2Fg%2F1tdqmls_?entry=ttu)\n
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          Didn’t check the rest\n
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          > Just like US schools, many have their own driveway that goes off the main road\n
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          Those are residential roads. [This a view of the Niederstotzingen school from the road it’s on](https://www.google.com/maps/@48.542406,10.2389314,3a,60y,119.92h,81.99t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sW-TbbzDmkVz_-XMnR0tqYg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu), the gymnasium is on the other side. Look up and down the road, there’s residential buildings there. Looking at the signage (or rather lack thereof), it’s two-way. No lane markings though small roads just don’t have them, you slow down and make sure to not shear off your side mirrors with the side mirrors of oncoming traffic. The little shack with a sign with an H is a bus stop. Only seems to be served by one bus line (at least I can’t find more), [here’s the schelude](https://www.ding.eu/fileadmin/content/downloads/ics/20230421-DING-EVG-Streik-RAB-Bus/593-Streik-RAB-Fahrten.pdf). It connects to two train stations (including thie Niederstotzingen one) roughly every 30 minutes. Frankly speaking you can walk from there you’ll be faster than waiting for the next bus.\n
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          Niederstotzingen is classed as a city btw, almost 5k inhabitants. It’s not really a size thing in Germany though and nowadays the title doesn’t have any legal meaning, city rights were granted by Kaiser Sigismund in 1430, meaning it served as the local trade hub or such. Congratulations, thanks to wikipedia I know now more about a tiny city I don’t care about in a state I don’t care for :)
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          > Cost. That separate road means buying land from someone and turning it into road. Do they have one way roads for rural schools in Germany? Because I looked at a few Grundschule in Bavaria on Google maps and didn’t see any.\n
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          You’ll have a hard time finding a village with *literally* one single road. Certainly not one 1-2k which is the size that gets the school for the surrounding ones.\n
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          > It is cheaper and more convenient to have a speed camera that is active only during school hours.\n
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          And also completely ineffective at preventing anything.Heck at least use road bumps. Narrow the road only in spots so that two monster trucks if you please fit on comfortably side by side for 50-100m or such, but then it narrows down to half that for just 5m. While you’re at it build a crossing there, narrowing the roads at pedestrian crossing is standard practice in many places and it makes a hell a lot of sense. Yes, that slows down traffic because you might have to negotiate with oncoming traffic who goes first. Yes, that’s precisely the point.
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    In front of a school? Are your schools connected directly to highways or something?\n
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    We don’t have blocks.
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          Why can’t you have one-way streets in a rural area? Fork off the main street on one end, merge on the other. Pedestrian and bicycle traffic can be bidirectional, cars can take a little detour they don’t use muscle energy.\n
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          > > Wide enough for one pickup and no opposing traffic, but so narrow that two pickups are going to really have to negotiate to move around each other."\n
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          How does that translate to "block the street for buses? If a street fits two pickups it fits two buses. They’ll have to negotiate to move around each other so if you have many (which, as I told you a lot, you shouldn’t) you should consider a one-way road, or maybe a meeting bay, or a wider street with choke points, or whatever. But it’s not “blocking the road for buses”.
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          > Schools have more than one bus and they have to pass each other.\n
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          No they don’t they can enter from the same side. You’re just looking for excuses. Also why do you need buses in the first place why aren’t the kids walking or biking.
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          > That’s a main road.\n
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          [No it isn’t](https://dictionary.cambridge.org/de/worterbuch/essential-amerikanisches-englisch/main-road):\n
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          > a large road that goes from one town to another:\n
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          And yes you also see residential buildings on main roads. The reason this is a residential and not main road is due to its size and position away from through-traffic. It’s a road where you have a quick look and then just cross, main roads are of the “eh I can look but I probably need to get to a crossing to get across” territory.\n
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          And no there’s no speed bumps why would there if the road is narrow enough and people naturally drive slow enough, there’s no through traffic, the residents don’t race on it, etc.
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          US suburbia has a higher density than the German countryside, having to travel 24km is nuts. That’d be defensible if you live in a tiny settlement 24km from a place with more than two dozen houses – I’m sure those exist in the US but suburbia isn’t that.\n
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          How many pupils were there at your school? My state has 106240 pupils in 393 primary schools, that’s an average of 270. Minimum size under ordinary circumstances is 80, the smallest is on Nordstrandischmoor: An island, 18 inhabitants, five families, one school, one teacher, two students, [here it is](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.5518864,8.8108853,16z?entry=ttu). That’s because we don’t do boarding in primary education so there’s a maximum tolerable commute time/distance, once those kids are old enough they’ll spend Monday through Friday on the mainland.\n
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          If your system insists that a school have at least 2k students or such then, yes, of course, walking to school will be an impossibility for most. Fix your school sizes and like 99% of students will be able to walk or bike, use buses or minivans or whatnot for the rest we do that too (not really possible in Nordstrandischmoor, thing doesn’t even have a ferry but a rail link that’s only usable when the tide is low).\n
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          And no it wasn’t my school it was my Kindergarten, which wasn’t, by a long shot, the closest to home it was the one my parents chose. I mentioned it to say that biking 3.5km is something a 4yold can do, physically, without any issue at all really.
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          > Roads are typically 2 lanes one in each direction. You already know this because you said a solution would be to remove the lane marker.\n
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          I’m someone else.\n
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          > So you have a road with an elementary school, and 2 miles further down is a middle school. Even without that you have buses passing each other during pickup because busses only pickup kids on one side of the street so you don’t have young kids crossing roads.\n
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          Lots of questions here: Why can’t kids walk 500m to the next bus stop? Why are streets so unsafe so that kids can’t cross them?\n
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          Why assume that there’s no larger road in between those smaller roads? Roads generally form a hierarchy, you have big ones feeding into middle ones feeding into small ones. Small ones should absolutely be safe to cross, also without explicit crossings, because they’re traffic calmed and don’t have much traffic in the first place. That’s where houses and schools are, where there’s no through-traffic because even if they aren’t cul de sacs who would drive through a road you can’t drive fast on when there’s a mid-level road that you could take.\n
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          > What do you call a section of inner city bounded on all sides by a road in your country?\n
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          Straßenblock. Let me put it differently: We don’t have grids and nothing is regular. [This is about as grid-y as it gets](https://www.google.com/maps/@53.5753832,9.9851206,1090m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) and if you zoom in you’ll notice that the interior streets have no lane markers and some even are cobbled. Those connect to a street ( south, Hallerstraße) with bike lanes (don’t need those on smaller streets because there’s not enough traffic to warrant them), which connects to a four-lane (plus bus lane) street, Grindelalle, west. The intersection looks a bit crazy but it’s actually safe for pedestrians and you should’ve learned how to cross streets safely and what traffic lights are in Kindergarten. You’ve also been there with your parents (going shopping or whatever) a lot of times, nothing scary really. That kind of density and housing is probably illegal to build where you are (it’s illegal pretty much everywhere in the US and Canada).\n
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          And mind you Hamburg is awful when it comes to urbanism, way too car-centric. Not because of lack of public transport but because politicians are unwilling to kill off car traffic and the whole city is full of rich fucks with too much disposable income.
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          Let me look at a map… maybe 1km max anywhere in my 30k town to the next primary school and that’s when you’re living on the very very edge of town. Should be under 500m for most pupils.\n
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          If you’re living in a rural area, outside of the next village (which will have a school), which is an absolute exception as things tend to cluster into villages in rural areas, it might be 5km. Not really an issue with a bike, I biked what 3.5km to Kindergarten (together with my mom). If you have less density than that you probably should have boarding schools.\n
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          For secondary education, if you’re living in a village you’ll probably have to take the bus to the nearest city. Regular public transport though the schedule will take school times into account. Yes, kids can walk 500m to the nearest station.\n
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          Bonus: All that school density – smaller but way more of them – means that there’s obvious places to hold elections as there’s a municipality-owned place in Sunday stroll distance to pretty much everywhere. The only downside are the ludicrously low tables.
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          > A block in the US doesn’t mean a square either.\n
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          Yes, great, blame a non native speaker for expressing himself incorrectly, correcting himself, and then quadruple down on it. I was thinking of unprioritised NY-style blocks you see all over the place in US cities, gridlock magnets. You know, places where people say “down the block” and generally measure distances in blocks.\n
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          > It is required that children do not cross two lane roads to be picked up by school buses. I don’t make the rules. I don’t have a solution to US car culture. But making roads unpassable by school buses isn’t an answer.\n
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          If you look back at that Hamburg link, at those streets internal to the superblock, you’ll notice that they *are* wide enough for buses to go through. There’s no regular bus lines through there (there’s two metro stations and plenty of bus stops surrounding it) but a school bus isn’t regular service, it doesn’t need to play by the same rules. You can make a pickup at one of those very spacious intersections. It’s not being done because there’s schools in walking distance and German kids can cross roads but it *could* be done. Would you, however, ever speed on those roads.
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          Things aren’t done differently, in principle, in villages. You were the one brining up blocks or did you mean “buildings surrounded by roads *and fields*”.\n
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          [This is Wacken](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.0275469,9.3755654,169m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) (*the* Wacken), I zoomed you in on the primary school. There’s surrounding villages without school so it’s bound to get bus traffic. Note how it’s on a street that’s wide enough for that, but not the main road, the one with all the through-traffic. Can you understand that principle. (Main Roads, actually, Wacken has two, Schenefelder and Hauptstraße).\n
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          > I only took issue with the ridiculous idea that the roads in front of rural US schools could be made safer by making them impassable by busses.\n
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          Noone ever said that? At least I didn’t.
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          > Grundschule Niederstotzingen\n
          \n
          [That’s not on a main road](https://www.google.com/maps/place/Grundschule+Niederstotzingen/@48.5416064,10.2369723,16.33z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x479946d4d21d8af1:0x28d0eb80cb17df7f!8m2!3d48.54188!4d10.23954!16s%2Fg%2F1tgfvlcm?entry=ttu). Zoom out a bit, the main roads are the ones leading to other villages, named after those villages (or in the case of Ulm a city in that direction).\n
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          > Grundschule Pfaffenhofen\n
          \n
          [neither](https://www.google.com/maps/place/Grundschule+Pfaffenhofen/@49.0620402,8.9749824,16.67z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x410b8f8ce5cb2efb:0x31c87e2000d06919!8m2!3d49.06201!4d8.97686!16s%2Fg%2F1tdqmls_?entry=ttu)\n
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          Didn’t check the rest\n
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          > Just like US schools, many have their own driveway that goes off the main road\n
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          Those are residential roads. [This a view of the Niederstotzingen school from the road it’s on](https://www.google.com/maps/@48.542406,10.2389314,3a,60y,119.92h,81.99t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sW-TbbzDmkVz_-XMnR0tqYg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu), the gymnasium is on the other side. Look up and down the road, there’s residential buildings there. Looking at the signage (or rather lack thereof), it’s two-way. No lane markings though small roads just don’t have them, you slow down and make sure to not shear off your side mirrors with the side mirrors of oncoming traffic. The little shack with a sign with an H is a bus stop. Only seems to be served by one bus line (at least I can’t find more), [here’s the schelude](https://www.ding.eu/fileadmin/content/downloads/ics/20230421-DING-EVG-Streik-RAB-Bus/593-Streik-RAB-Fahrten.pdf). It connects to two train stations (including thie Niederstotzingen one) roughly every 30 minutes. Frankly speaking you can walk from there you’ll be faster than waiting for the next bus.\n
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          Niederstotzingen is classed as a city btw, almost 5k inhabitants. It’s not really a size thing in Germany though and nowadays the title doesn’t have any legal meaning, city rights were granted by Kaiser Sigismund in 1430, meaning it served as the local trade hub or such. Congratulations, thanks to wikipedia I know now more about a tiny city I don’t care about in a state I don’t care for :)
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          > Cost. That separate road means buying land from someone and turning it into road. Do they have one way roads for rural schools in Germany? Because I looked at a few Grundschule in Bavaria on Google maps and didn’t see any.\n
          \n
          You’ll have a hard time finding a village with *literally* one single road. Certainly not one 1-2k which is the size that gets the school for the surrounding ones.\n
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          > It is cheaper and more convenient to have a speed camera that is active only during school hours.\n
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          And also completely ineffective at preventing anything.Heck at least use road bumps. Narrow the road only in spots so that two monster trucks if you please fit on comfortably side by side for 50-100m or such, but then it narrows down to half that for just 5m. While you’re at it build a crossing there, narrowing the roads at pedestrian crossing is standard practice in many places and it makes a hell a lot of sense. Yes, that slows down traffic because you might have to negotiate with oncoming traffic who goes first. Yes, that’s precisely the point.
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    > You have one bus going in one direction to a school passing another bus going to another school.\n
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    In front of a school? Are your schools connected directly to highways or something?\n
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    > Have you only lived in an inner city where roads can be one way because they alternate in direction every block?\n
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    We don’t have blocks.
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      EDIT: since apparently a bunch of people woke up with the wrong foot this morning or forgot to check the group they’re in:\n
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      This is a joke. Do not steal or vandalize speed enforcement cameras (or anything else for that matter). That’s against the law and you will likely get arrested.\n
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      If you’re addicted to crack or any other drugs, please seek professional help.
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          Why can’t you have one-way streets in a rural area? Fork off the main street on one end, merge on the other. Pedestrian and bicycle traffic can be bidirectional, cars can take a little detour they don’t use muscle energy.\n
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          > > Wide enough for one pickup and no opposing traffic, but so narrow that two pickups are going to really have to negotiate to move around each other."\n
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          How does that translate to "block the street for buses? If a street fits two pickups it fits two buses. They’ll have to negotiate to move around each other so if you have many (which, as I told you a lot, you shouldn’t) you should consider a one-way road, or maybe a meeting bay, or a wider street with choke points, or whatever. But it’s not “blocking the road for buses”.
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          > Schools have more than one bus and they have to pass each other.\n
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          No they don’t they can enter from the same side. You’re just looking for excuses. Also why do you need buses in the first place why aren’t the kids walking or biking.
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          > That’s a main road.\n
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          [No it isn’t](https://dictionary.cambridge.org/de/worterbuch/essential-amerikanisches-englisch/main-road):\n
          \n
          > a large road that goes from one town to another:\n
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          And yes you also see residential buildings on main roads. The reason this is a residential and not main road is due to its size and position away from through-traffic. It’s a road where you have a quick look and then just cross, main roads are of the “eh I can look but I probably need to get to a crossing to get across” territory.\n
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          And no there’s no speed bumps why would there if the road is narrow enough and people naturally drive slow enough, there’s no through traffic, the residents don’t race on it, etc.
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          US suburbia has a higher density than the German countryside, having to travel 24km is nuts. That’d be defensible if you live in a tiny settlement 24km from a place with more than two dozen houses – I’m sure those exist in the US but suburbia isn’t that.\n
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          How many pupils were there at your school? My state has 106240 pupils in 393 primary schools, that’s an average of 270. Minimum size under ordinary circumstances is 80, the smallest is on Nordstrandischmoor: An island, 18 inhabitants, five families, one school, one teacher, two students, [here it is](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.5518864,8.8108853,16z?entry=ttu). That’s because we don’t do boarding in primary education so there’s a maximum tolerable commute time/distance, once those kids are old enough they’ll spend Monday through Friday on the mainland.\n
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          If your system insists that a school have at least 2k students or such then, yes, of course, walking to school will be an impossibility for most. Fix your school sizes and like 99% of students will be able to walk or bike, use buses or minivans or whatnot for the rest we do that too (not really possible in Nordstrandischmoor, thing doesn’t even have a ferry but a rail link that’s only usable when the tide is low).\n
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          And no it wasn’t my school it was my Kindergarten, which wasn’t, by a long shot, the closest to home it was the one my parents chose. I mentioned it to say that biking 3.5km is something a 4yold can do, physically, without any issue at all really.
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          > Roads are typically 2 lanes one in each direction. You already know this because you said a solution would be to remove the lane marker.\n
          \n
          I’m someone else.\n
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          > So you have a road with an elementary school, and 2 miles further down is a middle school. Even without that you have buses passing each other during pickup because busses only pickup kids on one side of the street so you don’t have young kids crossing roads.\n
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          Lots of questions here: Why can’t kids walk 500m to the next bus stop? Why are streets so unsafe so that kids can’t cross them?\n
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          Why assume that there’s no larger road in between those smaller roads? Roads generally form a hierarchy, you have big ones feeding into middle ones feeding into small ones. Small ones should absolutely be safe to cross, also without explicit crossings, because they’re traffic calmed and don’t have much traffic in the first place. That’s where houses and schools are, where there’s no through-traffic because even if they aren’t cul de sacs who would drive through a road you can’t drive fast on when there’s a mid-level road that you could take.\n
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          > What do you call a section of inner city bounded on all sides by a road in your country?\n
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          Straßenblock. Let me put it differently: We don’t have grids and nothing is regular. [This is about as grid-y as it gets](https://www.google.com/maps/@53.5753832,9.9851206,1090m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) and if you zoom in you’ll notice that the interior streets have no lane markers and some even are cobbled. Those connect to a street ( south, Hallerstraße) with bike lanes (don’t need those on smaller streets because there’s not enough traffic to warrant them), which connects to a four-lane (plus bus lane) street, Grindelalle, west. The intersection looks a bit crazy but it’s actually safe for pedestrians and you should’ve learned how to cross streets safely and what traffic lights are in Kindergarten. You’ve also been there with your parents (going shopping or whatever) a lot of times, nothing scary really. That kind of density and housing is probably illegal to build where you are (it’s illegal pretty much everywhere in the US and Canada).\n
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          And mind you Hamburg is awful when it comes to urbanism, way too car-centric. Not because of lack of public transport but because politicians are unwilling to kill off car traffic and the whole city is full of rich fucks with too much disposable income.
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          Let me look at a map… maybe 1km max anywhere in my 30k town to the next primary school and that’s when you’re living on the very very edge of town. Should be under 500m for most pupils.\n
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          If you’re living in a rural area, outside of the next village (which will have a school), which is an absolute exception as things tend to cluster into villages in rural areas, it might be 5km. Not really an issue with a bike, I biked what 3.5km to Kindergarten (together with my mom). If you have less density than that you probably should have boarding schools.\n
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          For secondary education, if you’re living in a village you’ll probably have to take the bus to the nearest city. Regular public transport though the schedule will take school times into account. Yes, kids can walk 500m to the nearest station.\n
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          Bonus: All that school density – smaller but way more of them – means that there’s obvious places to hold elections as there’s a municipality-owned place in Sunday stroll distance to pretty much everywhere. The only downside are the ludicrously low tables.
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          > A block in the US doesn’t mean a square either.\n
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          Yes, great, blame a non native speaker for expressing himself incorrectly, correcting himself, and then quadruple down on it. I was thinking of unprioritised NY-style blocks you see all over the place in US cities, gridlock magnets. You know, places where people say “down the block” and generally measure distances in blocks.\n
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          > It is required that children do not cross two lane roads to be picked up by school buses. I don’t make the rules. I don’t have a solution to US car culture. But making roads unpassable by school buses isn’t an answer.\n
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          If you look back at that Hamburg link, at those streets internal to the superblock, you’ll notice that they *are* wide enough for buses to go through. There’s no regular bus lines through there (there’s two metro stations and plenty of bus stops surrounding it) but a school bus isn’t regular service, it doesn’t need to play by the same rules. You can make a pickup at one of those very spacious intersections. It’s not being done because there’s schools in walking distance and German kids can cross roads but it *could* be done. Would you, however, ever speed on those roads.
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          Things aren’t done differently, in principle, in villages. You were the one brining up blocks or did you mean “buildings surrounded by roads *and fields*”.\n
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          [This is Wacken](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.0275469,9.3755654,169m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) (*the* Wacken), I zoomed you in on the primary school. There’s surrounding villages without school so it’s bound to get bus traffic. Note how it’s on a street that’s wide enough for that, but not the main road, the one with all the through-traffic. Can you understand that principle. (Main Roads, actually, Wacken has two, Schenefelder and Hauptstraße).\n
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          > I only took issue with the ridiculous idea that the roads in front of rural US schools could be made safer by making them impassable by busses.\n
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          Noone ever said that? At least I didn’t.
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          > You have one bus going in one direction to a school passing another bus going to another school.\n
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          In front of a school? Are your schools connected directly to highways or something?\n
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          > Have you only lived in an inner city where roads can be one way because they alternate in direction every block?\n
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          We don’t have blocks.
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          > Cost. That separate road means buying land from someone and turning it into road. Do they have one way roads for rural schools in Germany? Because I looked at a few Grundschule in Bavaria on Google maps and didn’t see any.\n
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          You’ll have a hard time finding a village with *literally* one single road. Certainly not one 1-2k which is the size that gets the school for the surrounding ones.\n
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          > It is cheaper and more convenient to have a speed camera that is active only during school hours.\n
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          And also completely ineffective at preventing anything.Heck at least use road bumps. Narrow the road only in spots so that two monster trucks if you please fit on comfortably side by side for 50-100m or such, but then it narrows down to half that for just 5m. While you’re at it build a crossing there, narrowing the roads at pedestrian crossing is standard practice in many places and it makes a hell a lot of sense. Yes, that slows down traffic because you might have to negotiate with oncoming traffic who goes first. Yes, that’s precisely the point.
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    > Grundschule Niederstotzingen\n
    \n
    [That’s not on a main road](https://www.google.com/maps/place/Grundschule+Niederstotzingen/@48.5416064,10.2369723,16.33z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x479946d4d21d8af1:0x28d0eb80cb17df7f!8m2!3d48.54188!4d10.23954!16s%2Fg%2F1tgfvlcm?entry=ttu). Zoom out a bit, the main roads are the ones leading to other villages, named after those villages (or in the case of Ulm a city in that direction).\n
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    > Grundschule Pfaffenhofen\n
    \n
    [neither](https://www.google.com/maps/place/Grundschule+Pfaffenhofen/@49.0620402,8.9749824,16.67z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x410b8f8ce5cb2efb:0x31c87e2000d06919!8m2!3d49.06201!4d8.97686!16s%2Fg%2F1tdqmls_?entry=ttu)\n
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    Didn’t check the rest\n
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    > Just like US schools, many have their own driveway that goes off the main road\n
    \n
    Those are residential roads. [This a view of the Niederstotzingen school from the road it’s on](https://www.google.com/maps/@48.542406,10.2389314,3a,60y,119.92h,81.99t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sW-TbbzDmkVz_-XMnR0tqYg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu), the gymnasium is on the other side. Look up and down the road, there’s residential buildings there. Looking at the signage (or rather lack thereof), it’s two-way. No lane markings though small roads just don’t have them, you slow down and make sure to not shear off your side mirrors with the side mirrors of oncoming traffic. The little shack with a sign with an H is a bus stop. Only seems to be served by one bus line (at least I can’t find more), [here’s the schelude](https://www.ding.eu/fileadmin/content/downloads/ics/20230421-DING-EVG-Streik-RAB-Bus/593-Streik-RAB-Fahrten.pdf). It connects to two train stations (including thie Niederstotzingen one) roughly every 30 minutes. Frankly speaking you can walk from there you’ll be faster than waiting for the next bus.\n
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    Niederstotzingen is classed as a city btw, almost 5k inhabitants. It’s not really a size thing in Germany though and nowadays the title doesn’t have any legal meaning, city rights were granted by Kaiser Sigismund in 1430, meaning it served as the local trade hub or such. Congratulations, thanks to wikipedia I know now more about a tiny city I don’t care about in a state I don’t care for :)
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      EDIT: since apparently a bunch of people woke up with the wrong foot this morning or forgot to check the group they’re in:\n
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      If you’re addicted to crack or any other drugs, please seek professional help.
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          Why can’t you have one-way streets in a rural area? Fork off the main street on one end, merge on the other. Pedestrian and bicycle traffic can be bidirectional, cars can take a little detour they don’t use muscle energy.\n
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          > > Wide enough for one pickup and no opposing traffic, but so narrow that two pickups are going to really have to negotiate to move around each other."\n
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          How does that translate to "block the street for buses? If a street fits two pickups it fits two buses. They’ll have to negotiate to move around each other so if you have many (which, as I told you a lot, you shouldn’t) you should consider a one-way road, or maybe a meeting bay, or a wider street with choke points, or whatever. But it’s not “blocking the road for buses”.
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          > Schools have more than one bus and they have to pass each other.\n
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          No they don’t they can enter from the same side. You’re just looking for excuses. Also why do you need buses in the first place why aren’t the kids walking or biking.
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          > That’s a main road.\n
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          [No it isn’t](https://dictionary.cambridge.org/de/worterbuch/essential-amerikanisches-englisch/main-road):\n
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          > a large road that goes from one town to another:\n
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          And yes you also see residential buildings on main roads. The reason this is a residential and not main road is due to its size and position away from through-traffic. It’s a road where you have a quick look and then just cross, main roads are of the “eh I can look but I probably need to get to a crossing to get across” territory.\n
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          US suburbia has a higher density than the German countryside, having to travel 24km is nuts. That’d be defensible if you live in a tiny settlement 24km from a place with more than two dozen houses – I’m sure those exist in the US but suburbia isn’t that.\n
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          How many pupils were there at your school? My state has 106240 pupils in 393 primary schools, that’s an average of 270. Minimum size under ordinary circumstances is 80, the smallest is on Nordstrandischmoor: An island, 18 inhabitants, five families, one school, one teacher, two students, [here it is](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.5518864,8.8108853,16z?entry=ttu). That’s because we don’t do boarding in primary education so there’s a maximum tolerable commute time/distance, once those kids are old enough they’ll spend Monday through Friday on the mainland.\n
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          If your system insists that a school have at least 2k students or such then, yes, of course, walking to school will be an impossibility for most. Fix your school sizes and like 99% of students will be able to walk or bike, use buses or minivans or whatnot for the rest we do that too (not really possible in Nordstrandischmoor, thing doesn’t even have a ferry but a rail link that’s only usable when the tide is low).\n
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          And no it wasn’t my school it was my Kindergarten, which wasn’t, by a long shot, the closest to home it was the one my parents chose. I mentioned it to say that biking 3.5km is something a 4yold can do, physically, without any issue at all really.
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          > Roads are typically 2 lanes one in each direction. You already know this because you said a solution would be to remove the lane marker.\n
          \n
          I’m someone else.\n
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          > So you have a road with an elementary school, and 2 miles further down is a middle school. Even without that you have buses passing each other during pickup because busses only pickup kids on one side of the street so you don’t have young kids crossing roads.\n
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          Lots of questions here: Why can’t kids walk 500m to the next bus stop? Why are streets so unsafe so that kids can’t cross them?\n
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          Why assume that there’s no larger road in between those smaller roads? Roads generally form a hierarchy, you have big ones feeding into middle ones feeding into small ones. Small ones should absolutely be safe to cross, also without explicit crossings, because they’re traffic calmed and don’t have much traffic in the first place. That’s where houses and schools are, where there’s no through-traffic because even if they aren’t cul de sacs who would drive through a road you can’t drive fast on when there’s a mid-level road that you could take.\n
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          > What do you call a section of inner city bounded on all sides by a road in your country?\n
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          Straßenblock. Let me put it differently: We don’t have grids and nothing is regular. [This is about as grid-y as it gets](https://www.google.com/maps/@53.5753832,9.9851206,1090m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) and if you zoom in you’ll notice that the interior streets have no lane markers and some even are cobbled. Those connect to a street ( south, Hallerstraße) with bike lanes (don’t need those on smaller streets because there’s not enough traffic to warrant them), which connects to a four-lane (plus bus lane) street, Grindelalle, west. The intersection looks a bit crazy but it’s actually safe for pedestrians and you should’ve learned how to cross streets safely and what traffic lights are in Kindergarten. You’ve also been there with your parents (going shopping or whatever) a lot of times, nothing scary really. That kind of density and housing is probably illegal to build where you are (it’s illegal pretty much everywhere in the US and Canada).\n
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          And mind you Hamburg is awful when it comes to urbanism, way too car-centric. Not because of lack of public transport but because politicians are unwilling to kill off car traffic and the whole city is full of rich fucks with too much disposable income.
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          Let me look at a map… maybe 1km max anywhere in my 30k town to the next primary school and that’s when you’re living on the very very edge of town. Should be under 500m for most pupils.\n
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          If you’re living in a rural area, outside of the next village (which will have a school), which is an absolute exception as things tend to cluster into villages in rural areas, it might be 5km. Not really an issue with a bike, I biked what 3.5km to Kindergarten (together with my mom). If you have less density than that you probably should have boarding schools.\n
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          For secondary education, if you’re living in a village you’ll probably have to take the bus to the nearest city. Regular public transport though the schedule will take school times into account. Yes, kids can walk 500m to the nearest station.\n
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          Bonus: All that school density – smaller but way more of them – means that there’s obvious places to hold elections as there’s a municipality-owned place in Sunday stroll distance to pretty much everywhere. The only downside are the ludicrously low tables.
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          > A block in the US doesn’t mean a square either.\n
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          Yes, great, blame a non native speaker for expressing himself incorrectly, correcting himself, and then quadruple down on it. I was thinking of unprioritised NY-style blocks you see all over the place in US cities, gridlock magnets. You know, places where people say “down the block” and generally measure distances in blocks.\n
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          > It is required that children do not cross two lane roads to be picked up by school buses. I don’t make the rules. I don’t have a solution to US car culture. But making roads unpassable by school buses isn’t an answer.\n
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          If you look back at that Hamburg link, at those streets internal to the superblock, you’ll notice that they *are* wide enough for buses to go through. There’s no regular bus lines through there (there’s two metro stations and plenty of bus stops surrounding it) but a school bus isn’t regular service, it doesn’t need to play by the same rules. You can make a pickup at one of those very spacious intersections. It’s not being done because there’s schools in walking distance and German kids can cross roads but it *could* be done. Would you, however, ever speed on those roads.
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          Things aren’t done differently, in principle, in villages. You were the one brining up blocks or did you mean “buildings surrounded by roads *and fields*”.\n
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          [This is Wacken](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.0275469,9.3755654,169m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) (*the* Wacken), I zoomed you in on the primary school. There’s surrounding villages without school so it’s bound to get bus traffic. Note how it’s on a street that’s wide enough for that, but not the main road, the one with all the through-traffic. Can you understand that principle. (Main Roads, actually, Wacken has two, Schenefelder and Hauptstraße).\n
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          > I only took issue with the ridiculous idea that the roads in front of rural US schools could be made safer by making them impassable by busses.\n
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          Noone ever said that? At least I didn’t.
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          > You have one bus going in one direction to a school passing another bus going to another school.\n
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          In front of a school? Are your schools connected directly to highways or something?\n
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          > Have you only lived in an inner city where roads can be one way because they alternate in direction every block?\n
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          We don’t have blocks.
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          > Cost. That separate road means buying land from someone and turning it into road. Do they have one way roads for rural schools in Germany? Because I looked at a few Grundschule in Bavaria on Google maps and didn’t see any.\n
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          You’ll have a hard time finding a village with *literally* one single road. Certainly not one 1-2k which is the size that gets the school for the surrounding ones.\n
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          > It is cheaper and more convenient to have a speed camera that is active only during school hours.\n
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          And also completely ineffective at preventing anything.Heck at least use road bumps. Narrow the road only in spots so that two monster trucks if you please fit on comfortably side by side for 50-100m or such, but then it narrows down to half that for just 5m. While you’re at it build a crossing there, narrowing the roads at pedestrian crossing is standard practice in many places and it makes a hell a lot of sense. Yes, that slows down traffic because you might have to negotiate with oncoming traffic who goes first. Yes, that’s precisely the point.
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    > Grundschule Niederstotzingen\n
    \n
    [That’s not on a main road](https://www.google.com/maps/place/Grundschule+Niederstotzingen/@48.5416064,10.2369723,16.33z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x479946d4d21d8af1:0x28d0eb80cb17df7f!8m2!3d48.54188!4d10.23954!16s%2Fg%2F1tgfvlcm?entry=ttu). Zoom out a bit, the main roads are the ones leading to other villages, named after those villages (or in the case of Ulm a city in that direction).\n
    \n
    > Grundschule Pfaffenhofen\n
    \n
    [neither](https://www.google.com/maps/place/Grundschule+Pfaffenhofen/@49.0620402,8.9749824,16.67z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x410b8f8ce5cb2efb:0x31c87e2000d06919!8m2!3d49.06201!4d8.97686!16s%2Fg%2F1tdqmls_?entry=ttu)\n
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    Didn’t check the rest\n
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    > Just like US schools, many have their own driveway that goes off the main road\n
    \n
    Those are residential roads. [This a view of the Niederstotzingen school from the road it’s on](https://www.google.com/maps/@48.542406,10.2389314,3a,60y,119.92h,81.99t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sW-TbbzDmkVz_-XMnR0tqYg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu), the gymnasium is on the other side. Look up and down the road, there’s residential buildings there. Looking at the signage (or rather lack thereof), it’s two-way. No lane markings though small roads just don’t have them, you slow down and make sure to not shear off your side mirrors with the side mirrors of oncoming traffic. The little shack with a sign with an H is a bus stop. Only seems to be served by one bus line (at least I can’t find more), [here’s the schelude](https://www.ding.eu/fileadmin/content/downloads/ics/20230421-DING-EVG-Streik-RAB-Bus/593-Streik-RAB-Fahrten.pdf). It connects to two train stations (including thie Niederstotzingen one) roughly every 30 minutes. Frankly speaking you can walk from there you’ll be faster than waiting for the next bus.\n
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    Niederstotzingen is classed as a city btw, almost 5k inhabitants. It’s not really a size thing in Germany though and nowadays the title doesn’t have any legal meaning, city rights were granted by Kaiser Sigismund in 1430, meaning it served as the local trade hub or such. Congratulations, thanks to wikipedia I know now more about a tiny city I don’t care about in a state I don’t care for :)
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      If you’re addicted to crack or any other drugs, please seek professional help.
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          Why can’t you have one-way streets in a rural area? Fork off the main street on one end, merge on the other. Pedestrian and bicycle traffic can be bidirectional, cars can take a little detour they don’t use muscle energy.\n
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          > > Wide enough for one pickup and no opposing traffic, but so narrow that two pickups are going to really have to negotiate to move around each other."\n
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          How does that translate to "block the street for buses? If a street fits two pickups it fits two buses. They’ll have to negotiate to move around each other so if you have many (which, as I told you a lot, you shouldn’t) you should consider a one-way road, or maybe a meeting bay, or a wider street with choke points, or whatever. But it’s not “blocking the road for buses”.
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          > Schools have more than one bus and they have to pass each other.\n
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          No they don’t they can enter from the same side. You’re just looking for excuses. Also why do you need buses in the first place why aren’t the kids walking or biking.
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          > That’s a main road.\n
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          [No it isn’t](https://dictionary.cambridge.org/de/worterbuch/essential-amerikanisches-englisch/main-road):\n
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          > a large road that goes from one town to another:\n
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          And yes you also see residential buildings on main roads. The reason this is a residential and not main road is due to its size and position away from through-traffic. It’s a road where you have a quick look and then just cross, main roads are of the “eh I can look but I probably need to get to a crossing to get across” territory.\n
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          US suburbia has a higher density than the German countryside, having to travel 24km is nuts. That’d be defensible if you live in a tiny settlement 24km from a place with more than two dozen houses – I’m sure those exist in the US but suburbia isn’t that.\n
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          How many pupils were there at your school? My state has 106240 pupils in 393 primary schools, that’s an average of 270. Minimum size under ordinary circumstances is 80, the smallest is on Nordstrandischmoor: An island, 18 inhabitants, five families, one school, one teacher, two students, [here it is](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.5518864,8.8108853,16z?entry=ttu). That’s because we don’t do boarding in primary education so there’s a maximum tolerable commute time/distance, once those kids are old enough they’ll spend Monday through Friday on the mainland.\n
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          If your system insists that a school have at least 2k students or such then, yes, of course, walking to school will be an impossibility for most. Fix your school sizes and like 99% of students will be able to walk or bike, use buses or minivans or whatnot for the rest we do that too (not really possible in Nordstrandischmoor, thing doesn’t even have a ferry but a rail link that’s only usable when the tide is low).\n
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          And no it wasn’t my school it was my Kindergarten, which wasn’t, by a long shot, the closest to home it was the one my parents chose. I mentioned it to say that biking 3.5km is something a 4yold can do, physically, without any issue at all really.
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          > Roads are typically 2 lanes one in each direction. You already know this because you said a solution would be to remove the lane marker.\n
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          I’m someone else.\n
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          > So you have a road with an elementary school, and 2 miles further down is a middle school. Even without that you have buses passing each other during pickup because busses only pickup kids on one side of the street so you don’t have young kids crossing roads.\n
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          Lots of questions here: Why can’t kids walk 500m to the next bus stop? Why are streets so unsafe so that kids can’t cross them?\n
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          Why assume that there’s no larger road in between those smaller roads? Roads generally form a hierarchy, you have big ones feeding into middle ones feeding into small ones. Small ones should absolutely be safe to cross, also without explicit crossings, because they’re traffic calmed and don’t have much traffic in the first place. That’s where houses and schools are, where there’s no through-traffic because even if they aren’t cul de sacs who would drive through a road you can’t drive fast on when there’s a mid-level road that you could take.\n
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          > What do you call a section of inner city bounded on all sides by a road in your country?\n
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          Straßenblock. Let me put it differently: We don’t have grids and nothing is regular. [This is about as grid-y as it gets](https://www.google.com/maps/@53.5753832,9.9851206,1090m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) and if you zoom in you’ll notice that the interior streets have no lane markers and some even are cobbled. Those connect to a street ( south, Hallerstraße) with bike lanes (don’t need those on smaller streets because there’s not enough traffic to warrant them), which connects to a four-lane (plus bus lane) street, Grindelalle, west. The intersection looks a bit crazy but it’s actually safe for pedestrians and you should’ve learned how to cross streets safely and what traffic lights are in Kindergarten. You’ve also been there with your parents (going shopping or whatever) a lot of times, nothing scary really. That kind of density and housing is probably illegal to build where you are (it’s illegal pretty much everywhere in the US and Canada).\n
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          And mind you Hamburg is awful when it comes to urbanism, way too car-centric. Not because of lack of public transport but because politicians are unwilling to kill off car traffic and the whole city is full of rich fucks with too much disposable income.
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          Let me look at a map… maybe 1km max anywhere in my 30k town to the next primary school and that’s when you’re living on the very very edge of town. Should be under 500m for most pupils.\n
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          If you’re living in a rural area, outside of the next village (which will have a school), which is an absolute exception as things tend to cluster into villages in rural areas, it might be 5km. Not really an issue with a bike, I biked what 3.5km to Kindergarten (together with my mom). If you have less density than that you probably should have boarding schools.\n
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          For secondary education, if you’re living in a village you’ll probably have to take the bus to the nearest city. Regular public transport though the schedule will take school times into account. Yes, kids can walk 500m to the nearest station.\n
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          Bonus: All that school density – smaller but way more of them – means that there’s obvious places to hold elections as there’s a municipality-owned place in Sunday stroll distance to pretty much everywhere. The only downside are the ludicrously low tables.
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          > A block in the US doesn’t mean a square either.\n
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          Yes, great, blame a non native speaker for expressing himself incorrectly, correcting himself, and then quadruple down on it. I was thinking of unprioritised NY-style blocks you see all over the place in US cities, gridlock magnets. You know, places where people say “down the block” and generally measure distances in blocks.\n
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          > It is required that children do not cross two lane roads to be picked up by school buses. I don’t make the rules. I don’t have a solution to US car culture. But making roads unpassable by school buses isn’t an answer.\n
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          If you look back at that Hamburg link, at those streets internal to the superblock, you’ll notice that they *are* wide enough for buses to go through. There’s no regular bus lines through there (there’s two metro stations and plenty of bus stops surrounding it) but a school bus isn’t regular service, it doesn’t need to play by the same rules. You can make a pickup at one of those very spacious intersections. It’s not being done because there’s schools in walking distance and German kids can cross roads but it *could* be done. Would you, however, ever speed on those roads.
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          Things aren’t done differently, in principle, in villages. You were the one brining up blocks or did you mean “buildings surrounded by roads *and fields*”.\n
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          [This is Wacken](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.0275469,9.3755654,169m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) (*the* Wacken), I zoomed you in on the primary school. There’s surrounding villages without school so it’s bound to get bus traffic. Note how it’s on a street that’s wide enough for that, but not the main road, the one with all the through-traffic. Can you understand that principle. (Main Roads, actually, Wacken has two, Schenefelder and Hauptstraße).\n
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          > I only took issue with the ridiculous idea that the roads in front of rural US schools could be made safer by making them impassable by busses.\n
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          Noone ever said that? At least I didn’t.
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          > You have one bus going in one direction to a school passing another bus going to another school.\n
          \n
          In front of a school? Are your schools connected directly to highways or something?\n
          \n
          > Have you only lived in an inner city where roads can be one way because they alternate in direction every block?\n
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          We don’t have blocks.
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          > Cost. That separate road means buying land from someone and turning it into road. Do they have one way roads for rural schools in Germany? Because I looked at a few Grundschule in Bavaria on Google maps and didn’t see any.\n
          \n
          You’ll have a hard time finding a village with *literally* one single road. Certainly not one 1-2k which is the size that gets the school for the surrounding ones.\n
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          > It is cheaper and more convenient to have a speed camera that is active only during school hours.\n
          \n
          And also completely ineffective at preventing anything.Heck at least use road bumps. Narrow the road only in spots so that two monster trucks if you please fit on comfortably side by side for 50-100m or such, but then it narrows down to half that for just 5m. While you’re at it build a crossing there, narrowing the roads at pedestrian crossing is standard practice in many places and it makes a hell a lot of sense. Yes, that slows down traffic because you might have to negotiate with oncoming traffic who goes first. Yes, that’s precisely the point.
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    > Grundschule Niederstotzingen\n
    \n
    [That’s not on a main road](https://www.google.com/maps/place/Grundschule+Niederstotzingen/@48.5416064,10.2369723,16.33z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x479946d4d21d8af1:0x28d0eb80cb17df7f!8m2!3d48.54188!4d10.23954!16s%2Fg%2F1tgfvlcm?entry=ttu). Zoom out a bit, the main roads are the ones leading to other villages, named after those villages (or in the case of Ulm a city in that direction).\n
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    > Grundschule Pfaffenhofen\n
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    [neither](https://www.google.com/maps/place/Grundschule+Pfaffenhofen/@49.0620402,8.9749824,16.67z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x410b8f8ce5cb2efb:0x31c87e2000d06919!8m2!3d49.06201!4d8.97686!16s%2Fg%2F1tdqmls_?entry=ttu)\n
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    Didn’t check the rest\n
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    > Just like US schools, many have their own driveway that goes off the main road\n
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    Those are residential roads. [This a view of the Niederstotzingen school from the road it’s on](https://www.google.com/maps/@48.542406,10.2389314,3a,60y,119.92h,81.99t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sW-TbbzDmkVz_-XMnR0tqYg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu), the gymnasium is on the other side. Look up and down the road, there’s residential buildings there. Looking at the signage (or rather lack thereof), it’s two-way. No lane markings though small roads just don’t have them, you slow down and make sure to not shear off your side mirrors with the side mirrors of oncoming traffic. The little shack with a sign with an H is a bus stop. Only seems to be served by one bus line (at least I can’t find more), [here’s the schelude](https://www.ding.eu/fileadmin/content/downloads/ics/20230421-DING-EVG-Streik-RAB-Bus/593-Streik-RAB-Fahrten.pdf). It connects to two train stations (including thie Niederstotzingen one) roughly every 30 minutes. Frankly speaking you can walk from there you’ll be faster than waiting for the next bus.\n
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    Niederstotzingen is classed as a city btw, almost 5k inhabitants. It’s not really a size thing in Germany though and nowadays the title doesn’t have any legal meaning, city rights were granted by Kaiser Sigismund in 1430, meaning it served as the local trade hub or such. Congratulations, thanks to wikipedia I know now more about a tiny city I don’t care about in a state I don’t care for :)
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          Why can’t you have one-way streets in a rural area? Fork off the main street on one end, merge on the other. Pedestrian and bicycle traffic can be bidirectional, cars can take a little detour they don’t use muscle energy.\n
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          > That’s a main road.\n
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          [No it isn’t](https://dictionary.cambridge.org/de/worterbuch/essential-amerikanisches-englisch/main-road):\n
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          > a large road that goes from one town to another:\n
          \n
          And yes you also see residential buildings on main roads. The reason this is a residential and not main road is due to its size and position away from through-traffic. It’s a road where you have a quick look and then just cross, main roads are of the “eh I can look but I probably need to get to a crossing to get across” territory.\n
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          And no there’s no speed bumps why would there if the road is narrow enough and people naturally drive slow enough, there’s no through traffic, the residents don’t race on it, etc.
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          US suburbia has a higher density than the German countryside, having to travel 24km is nuts. That’d be defensible if you live in a tiny settlement 24km from a place with more than two dozen houses – I’m sure those exist in the US but suburbia isn’t that.\n
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          How many pupils were there at your school? My state has 106240 pupils in 393 primary schools, that’s an average of 270. Minimum size under ordinary circumstances is 80, the smallest is on Nordstrandischmoor: An island, 18 inhabitants, five families, one school, one teacher, two students, [here it is](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.5518864,8.8108853,16z?entry=ttu). That’s because we don’t do boarding in primary education so there’s a maximum tolerable commute time/distance, once those kids are old enough they’ll spend Monday through Friday on the mainland.\n
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          If your system insists that a school have at least 2k students or such then, yes, of course, walking to school will be an impossibility for most. Fix your school sizes and like 99% of students will be able to walk or bike, use buses or minivans or whatnot for the rest we do that too (not really possible in Nordstrandischmoor, thing doesn’t even have a ferry but a rail link that’s only usable when the tide is low).\n
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          And no it wasn’t my school it was my Kindergarten, which wasn’t, by a long shot, the closest to home it was the one my parents chose. I mentioned it to say that biking 3.5km is something a 4yold can do, physically, without any issue at all really.
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          > Roads are typically 2 lanes one in each direction. You already know this because you said a solution would be to remove the lane marker.\n
          \n
          I’m someone else.\n
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          > So you have a road with an elementary school, and 2 miles further down is a middle school. Even without that you have buses passing each other during pickup because busses only pickup kids on one side of the street so you don’t have young kids crossing roads.\n
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          Lots of questions here: Why can’t kids walk 500m to the next bus stop? Why are streets so unsafe so that kids can’t cross them?\n
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          Why assume that there’s no larger road in between those smaller roads? Roads generally form a hierarchy, you have big ones feeding into middle ones feeding into small ones. Small ones should absolutely be safe to cross, also without explicit crossings, because they’re traffic calmed and don’t have much traffic in the first place. That’s where houses and schools are, where there’s no through-traffic because even if they aren’t cul de sacs who would drive through a road you can’t drive fast on when there’s a mid-level road that you could take.\n
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          > What do you call a section of inner city bounded on all sides by a road in your country?\n
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          Straßenblock. Let me put it differently: We don’t have grids and nothing is regular. [This is about as grid-y as it gets](https://www.google.com/maps/@53.5753832,9.9851206,1090m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) and if you zoom in you’ll notice that the interior streets have no lane markers and some even are cobbled. Those connect to a street ( south, Hallerstraße) with bike lanes (don’t need those on smaller streets because there’s not enough traffic to warrant them), which connects to a four-lane (plus bus lane) street, Grindelalle, west. The intersection looks a bit crazy but it’s actually safe for pedestrians and you should’ve learned how to cross streets safely and what traffic lights are in Kindergarten. You’ve also been there with your parents (going shopping or whatever) a lot of times, nothing scary really. That kind of density and housing is probably illegal to build where you are (it’s illegal pretty much everywhere in the US and Canada).\n
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          And mind you Hamburg is awful when it comes to urbanism, way too car-centric. Not because of lack of public transport but because politicians are unwilling to kill off car traffic and the whole city is full of rich fucks with too much disposable income.
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          Let me look at a map… maybe 1km max anywhere in my 30k town to the next primary school and that’s when you’re living on the very very edge of town. Should be under 500m for most pupils.\n
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          If you’re living in a rural area, outside of the next village (which will have a school), which is an absolute exception as things tend to cluster into villages in rural areas, it might be 5km. Not really an issue with a bike, I biked what 3.5km to Kindergarten (together with my mom). If you have less density than that you probably should have boarding schools.\n
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          For secondary education, if you’re living in a village you’ll probably have to take the bus to the nearest city. Regular public transport though the schedule will take school times into account. Yes, kids can walk 500m to the nearest station.\n
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          Bonus: All that school density – smaller but way more of them – means that there’s obvious places to hold elections as there’s a municipality-owned place in Sunday stroll distance to pretty much everywhere. The only downside are the ludicrously low tables.
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          > A block in the US doesn’t mean a square either.\n
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          Yes, great, blame a non native speaker for expressing himself incorrectly, correcting himself, and then quadruple down on it. I was thinking of unprioritised NY-style blocks you see all over the place in US cities, gridlock magnets. You know, places where people say “down the block” and generally measure distances in blocks.\n
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          > It is required that children do not cross two lane roads to be picked up by school buses. I don’t make the rules. I don’t have a solution to US car culture. But making roads unpassable by school buses isn’t an answer.\n
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          If you look back at that Hamburg link, at those streets internal to the superblock, you’ll notice that they *are* wide enough for buses to go through. There’s no regular bus lines through there (there’s two metro stations and plenty of bus stops surrounding it) but a school bus isn’t regular service, it doesn’t need to play by the same rules. You can make a pickup at one of those very spacious intersections. It’s not being done because there’s schools in walking distance and German kids can cross roads but it *could* be done. Would you, however, ever speed on those roads.
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          Things aren’t done differently, in principle, in villages. You were the one brining up blocks or did you mean “buildings surrounded by roads *and fields*”.\n
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          [This is Wacken](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.0275469,9.3755654,169m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) (*the* Wacken), I zoomed you in on the primary school. There’s surrounding villages without school so it’s bound to get bus traffic. Note how it’s on a street that’s wide enough for that, but not the main road, the one with all the through-traffic. Can you understand that principle. (Main Roads, actually, Wacken has two, Schenefelder and Hauptstraße).\n
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          > I only took issue with the ridiculous idea that the roads in front of rural US schools could be made safer by making them impassable by busses.\n
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          Noone ever said that? At least I didn’t.
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          > You have one bus going in one direction to a school passing another bus going to another school.\n
          \n
          In front of a school? Are your schools connected directly to highways or something?\n
          \n
          > Have you only lived in an inner city where roads can be one way because they alternate in direction every block?\n
          \n
          We don’t have blocks.
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          > Grundschule Niederstotzingen\n
          \n
          [That’s not on a main road](https://www.google.com/maps/place/Grundschule+Niederstotzingen/@48.5416064,10.2369723,16.33z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x479946d4d21d8af1:0x28d0eb80cb17df7f!8m2!3d48.54188!4d10.23954!16s%2Fg%2F1tgfvlcm?entry=ttu). Zoom out a bit, the main roads are the ones leading to other villages, named after those villages (or in the case of Ulm a city in that direction).\n
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          > Grundschule Pfaffenhofen\n
          \n
          [neither](https://www.google.com/maps/place/Grundschule+Pfaffenhofen/@49.0620402,8.9749824,16.67z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x410b8f8ce5cb2efb:0x31c87e2000d06919!8m2!3d49.06201!4d8.97686!16s%2Fg%2F1tdqmls_?entry=ttu)\n
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          Didn’t check the rest\n
          \n
          > Just like US schools, many have their own driveway that goes off the main road\n
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          Those are residential roads. [This a view of the Niederstotzingen school from the road it’s on](https://www.google.com/maps/@48.542406,10.2389314,3a,60y,119.92h,81.99t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sW-TbbzDmkVz_-XMnR0tqYg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu), the gymnasium is on the other side. Look up and down the road, there’s residential buildings there. Looking at the signage (or rather lack thereof), it’s two-way. No lane markings though small roads just don’t have them, you slow down and make sure to not shear off your side mirrors with the side mirrors of oncoming traffic. The little shack with a sign with an H is a bus stop. Only seems to be served by one bus line (at least I can’t find more), [here’s the schelude](https://www.ding.eu/fileadmin/content/downloads/ics/20230421-DING-EVG-Streik-RAB-Bus/593-Streik-RAB-Fahrten.pdf). It connects to two train stations (including thie Niederstotzingen one) roughly every 30 minutes. Frankly speaking you can walk from there you’ll be faster than waiting for the next bus.\n
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          Niederstotzingen is classed as a city btw, almost 5k inhabitants. It’s not really a size thing in Germany though and nowadays the title doesn’t have any legal meaning, city rights were granted by Kaiser Sigismund in 1430, meaning it served as the local trade hub or such. Congratulations, thanks to wikipedia I know now more about a tiny city I don’t care about in a state I don’t care for :)
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    > Cost. That separate road means buying land from someone and turning it into road. Do they have one way roads for rural schools in Germany? Because I looked at a few Grundschule in Bavaria on Google maps and didn’t see any.\n
    \n
    You’ll have a hard time finding a village with *literally* one single road. Certainly not one 1-2k which is the size that gets the school for the surrounding ones.\n
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    > It is cheaper and more convenient to have a speed camera that is active only during school hours.\n
    \n
    And also completely ineffective at preventing anything.Heck at least use road bumps. Narrow the road only in spots so that two monster trucks if you please fit on comfortably side by side for 50-100m or such, but then it narrows down to half that for just 5m. While you’re at it build a crossing there, narrowing the roads at pedestrian crossing is standard practice in many places and it makes a hell a lot of sense. Yes, that slows down traffic because you might have to negotiate with oncoming traffic who goes first. Yes, that’s precisely the point.
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          Why can’t you have one-way streets in a rural area? Fork off the main street on one end, merge on the other. Pedestrian and bicycle traffic can be bidirectional, cars can take a little detour they don’t use muscle energy.\n
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          > > Wide enough for one pickup and no opposing traffic, but so narrow that two pickups are going to really have to negotiate to move around each other."\n
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          How does that translate to "block the street for buses? If a street fits two pickups it fits two buses. They’ll have to negotiate to move around each other so if you have many (which, as I told you a lot, you shouldn’t) you should consider a one-way road, or maybe a meeting bay, or a wider street with choke points, or whatever. But it’s not “blocking the road for buses”.
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          > Schools have more than one bus and they have to pass each other.\n
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          No they don’t they can enter from the same side. You’re just looking for excuses. Also why do you need buses in the first place why aren’t the kids walking or biking.
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          > That’s a main road.\n
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          [No it isn’t](https://dictionary.cambridge.org/de/worterbuch/essential-amerikanisches-englisch/main-road):\n
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          > a large road that goes from one town to another:\n
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          And yes you also see residential buildings on main roads. The reason this is a residential and not main road is due to its size and position away from through-traffic. It’s a road where you have a quick look and then just cross, main roads are of the “eh I can look but I probably need to get to a crossing to get across” territory.\n
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          And no there’s no speed bumps why would there if the road is narrow enough and people naturally drive slow enough, there’s no through traffic, the residents don’t race on it, etc.
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          US suburbia has a higher density than the German countryside, having to travel 24km is nuts. That’d be defensible if you live in a tiny settlement 24km from a place with more than two dozen houses – I’m sure those exist in the US but suburbia isn’t that.\n
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          How many pupils were there at your school? My state has 106240 pupils in 393 primary schools, that’s an average of 270. Minimum size under ordinary circumstances is 80, the smallest is on Nordstrandischmoor: An island, 18 inhabitants, five families, one school, one teacher, two students, [here it is](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.5518864,8.8108853,16z?entry=ttu). That’s because we don’t do boarding in primary education so there’s a maximum tolerable commute time/distance, once those kids are old enough they’ll spend Monday through Friday on the mainland.\n
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          If your system insists that a school have at least 2k students or such then, yes, of course, walking to school will be an impossibility for most. Fix your school sizes and like 99% of students will be able to walk or bike, use buses or minivans or whatnot for the rest we do that too (not really possible in Nordstrandischmoor, thing doesn’t even have a ferry but a rail link that’s only usable when the tide is low).\n
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          And no it wasn’t my school it was my Kindergarten, which wasn’t, by a long shot, the closest to home it was the one my parents chose. I mentioned it to say that biking 3.5km is something a 4yold can do, physically, without any issue at all really.
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          > Roads are typically 2 lanes one in each direction. You already know this because you said a solution would be to remove the lane marker.\n
          \n
          I’m someone else.\n
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          > So you have a road with an elementary school, and 2 miles further down is a middle school. Even without that you have buses passing each other during pickup because busses only pickup kids on one side of the street so you don’t have young kids crossing roads.\n
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          Lots of questions here: Why can’t kids walk 500m to the next bus stop? Why are streets so unsafe so that kids can’t cross them?\n
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          Why assume that there’s no larger road in between those smaller roads? Roads generally form a hierarchy, you have big ones feeding into middle ones feeding into small ones. Small ones should absolutely be safe to cross, also without explicit crossings, because they’re traffic calmed and don’t have much traffic in the first place. That’s where houses and schools are, where there’s no through-traffic because even if they aren’t cul de sacs who would drive through a road you can’t drive fast on when there’s a mid-level road that you could take.\n
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          > What do you call a section of inner city bounded on all sides by a road in your country?\n
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          Straßenblock. Let me put it differently: We don’t have grids and nothing is regular. [This is about as grid-y as it gets](https://www.google.com/maps/@53.5753832,9.9851206,1090m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) and if you zoom in you’ll notice that the interior streets have no lane markers and some even are cobbled. Those connect to a street ( south, Hallerstraße) with bike lanes (don’t need those on smaller streets because there’s not enough traffic to warrant them), which connects to a four-lane (plus bus lane) street, Grindelalle, west. The intersection looks a bit crazy but it’s actually safe for pedestrians and you should’ve learned how to cross streets safely and what traffic lights are in Kindergarten. You’ve also been there with your parents (going shopping or whatever) a lot of times, nothing scary really. That kind of density and housing is probably illegal to build where you are (it’s illegal pretty much everywhere in the US and Canada).\n
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          And mind you Hamburg is awful when it comes to urbanism, way too car-centric. Not because of lack of public transport but because politicians are unwilling to kill off car traffic and the whole city is full of rich fucks with too much disposable income.
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          Let me look at a map… maybe 1km max anywhere in my 30k town to the next primary school and that’s when you’re living on the very very edge of town. Should be under 500m for most pupils.\n
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          If you’re living in a rural area, outside of the next village (which will have a school), which is an absolute exception as things tend to cluster into villages in rural areas, it might be 5km. Not really an issue with a bike, I biked what 3.5km to Kindergarten (together with my mom). If you have less density than that you probably should have boarding schools.\n
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          For secondary education, if you’re living in a village you’ll probably have to take the bus to the nearest city. Regular public transport though the schedule will take school times into account. Yes, kids can walk 500m to the nearest station.\n
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          Bonus: All that school density – smaller but way more of them – means that there’s obvious places to hold elections as there’s a municipality-owned place in Sunday stroll distance to pretty much everywhere. The only downside are the ludicrously low tables.
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          > A block in the US doesn’t mean a square either.\n
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          Yes, great, blame a non native speaker for expressing himself incorrectly, correcting himself, and then quadruple down on it. I was thinking of unprioritised NY-style blocks you see all over the place in US cities, gridlock magnets. You know, places where people say “down the block” and generally measure distances in blocks.\n
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          > It is required that children do not cross two lane roads to be picked up by school buses. I don’t make the rules. I don’t have a solution to US car culture. But making roads unpassable by school buses isn’t an answer.\n
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          If you look back at that Hamburg link, at those streets internal to the superblock, you’ll notice that they *are* wide enough for buses to go through. There’s no regular bus lines through there (there’s two metro stations and plenty of bus stops surrounding it) but a school bus isn’t regular service, it doesn’t need to play by the same rules. You can make a pickup at one of those very spacious intersections. It’s not being done because there’s schools in walking distance and German kids can cross roads but it *could* be done. Would you, however, ever speed on those roads.
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          Things aren’t done differently, in principle, in villages. You were the one brining up blocks or did you mean “buildings surrounded by roads *and fields*”.\n
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          [This is Wacken](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.0275469,9.3755654,169m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) (*the* Wacken), I zoomed you in on the primary school. There’s surrounding villages without school so it’s bound to get bus traffic. Note how it’s on a street that’s wide enough for that, but not the main road, the one with all the through-traffic. Can you understand that principle. (Main Roads, actually, Wacken has two, Schenefelder and Hauptstraße).\n
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          > I only took issue with the ridiculous idea that the roads in front of rural US schools could be made safer by making them impassable by busses.\n
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          Noone ever said that? At least I didn’t.
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          > You have one bus going in one direction to a school passing another bus going to another school.\n
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          In front of a school? Are your schools connected directly to highways or something?\n
          \n
          > Have you only lived in an inner city where roads can be one way because they alternate in direction every block?\n
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          We don’t have blocks.
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          > Grundschule Niederstotzingen\n
          \n
          [That’s not on a main road](https://www.google.com/maps/place/Grundschule+Niederstotzingen/@48.5416064,10.2369723,16.33z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x479946d4d21d8af1:0x28d0eb80cb17df7f!8m2!3d48.54188!4d10.23954!16s%2Fg%2F1tgfvlcm?entry=ttu). Zoom out a bit, the main roads are the ones leading to other villages, named after those villages (or in the case of Ulm a city in that direction).\n
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          > Grundschule Pfaffenhofen\n
          \n
          [neither](https://www.google.com/maps/place/Grundschule+Pfaffenhofen/@49.0620402,8.9749824,16.67z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x410b8f8ce5cb2efb:0x31c87e2000d06919!8m2!3d49.06201!4d8.97686!16s%2Fg%2F1tdqmls_?entry=ttu)\n
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          Didn’t check the rest\n
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          > Just like US schools, many have their own driveway that goes off the main road\n
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          Those are residential roads. [This a view of the Niederstotzingen school from the road it’s on](https://www.google.com/maps/@48.542406,10.2389314,3a,60y,119.92h,81.99t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sW-TbbzDmkVz_-XMnR0tqYg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu), the gymnasium is on the other side. Look up and down the road, there’s residential buildings there. Looking at the signage (or rather lack thereof), it’s two-way. No lane markings though small roads just don’t have them, you slow down and make sure to not shear off your side mirrors with the side mirrors of oncoming traffic. The little shack with a sign with an H is a bus stop. Only seems to be served by one bus line (at least I can’t find more), [here’s the schelude](https://www.ding.eu/fileadmin/content/downloads/ics/20230421-DING-EVG-Streik-RAB-Bus/593-Streik-RAB-Fahrten.pdf). It connects to two train stations (including thie Niederstotzingen one) roughly every 30 minutes. Frankly speaking you can walk from there you’ll be faster than waiting for the next bus.\n
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          Niederstotzingen is classed as a city btw, almost 5k inhabitants. It’s not really a size thing in Germany though and nowadays the title doesn’t have any legal meaning, city rights were granted by Kaiser Sigismund in 1430, meaning it served as the local trade hub or such. Congratulations, thanks to wikipedia I know now more about a tiny city I don’t care about in a state I don’t care for :)
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    > Cost. That separate road means buying land from someone and turning it into road. Do they have one way roads for rural schools in Germany? Because I looked at a few Grundschule in Bavaria on Google maps and didn’t see any.\n
    \n
    You’ll have a hard time finding a village with *literally* one single road. Certainly not one 1-2k which is the size that gets the school for the surrounding ones.\n
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    > It is cheaper and more convenient to have a speed camera that is active only during school hours.\n
    \n
    And also completely ineffective at preventing anything.Heck at least use road bumps. Narrow the road only in spots so that two monster trucks if you please fit on comfortably side by side for 50-100m or such, but then it narrows down to half that for just 5m. While you’re at it build a crossing there, narrowing the roads at pedestrian crossing is standard practice in many places and it makes a hell a lot of sense. Yes, that slows down traffic because you might have to negotiate with oncoming traffic who goes first. Yes, that’s precisely the point.
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      EDIT: since apparently a bunch of people woke up with the wrong foot this morning or forgot to check the group they’re in:\n
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      This is a joke. Do not steal or vandalize speed enforcement cameras (or anything else for that matter). That’s against the law and you will likely get arrested.\n
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      If you’re addicted to crack or any other drugs, please seek professional help.
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          Why can’t you have one-way streets in a rural area? Fork off the main street on one end, merge on the other. Pedestrian and bicycle traffic can be bidirectional, cars can take a little detour they don’t use muscle energy.\n
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          > > Wide enough for one pickup and no opposing traffic, but so narrow that two pickups are going to really have to negotiate to move around each other."\n
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          How does that translate to "block the street for buses? If a street fits two pickups it fits two buses. They’ll have to negotiate to move around each other so if you have many (which, as I told you a lot, you shouldn’t) you should consider a one-way road, or maybe a meeting bay, or a wider street with choke points, or whatever. But it’s not “blocking the road for buses”.
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          > Schools have more than one bus and they have to pass each other.\n
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          No they don’t they can enter from the same side. You’re just looking for excuses. Also why do you need buses in the first place why aren’t the kids walking or biking.
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          > That’s a main road.\n
          \n
          [No it isn’t](https://dictionary.cambridge.org/de/worterbuch/essential-amerikanisches-englisch/main-road):\n
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          > a large road that goes from one town to another:\n
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          And yes you also see residential buildings on main roads. The reason this is a residential and not main road is due to its size and position away from through-traffic. It’s a road where you have a quick look and then just cross, main roads are of the “eh I can look but I probably need to get to a crossing to get across” territory.\n
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          US suburbia has a higher density than the German countryside, having to travel 24km is nuts. That’d be defensible if you live in a tiny settlement 24km from a place with more than two dozen houses – I’m sure those exist in the US but suburbia isn’t that.\n
          \n
          How many pupils were there at your school? My state has 106240 pupils in 393 primary schools, that’s an average of 270. Minimum size under ordinary circumstances is 80, the smallest is on Nordstrandischmoor: An island, 18 inhabitants, five families, one school, one teacher, two students, [here it is](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.5518864,8.8108853,16z?entry=ttu). That’s because we don’t do boarding in primary education so there’s a maximum tolerable commute time/distance, once those kids are old enough they’ll spend Monday through Friday on the mainland.\n
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          If your system insists that a school have at least 2k students or such then, yes, of course, walking to school will be an impossibility for most. Fix your school sizes and like 99% of students will be able to walk or bike, use buses or minivans or whatnot for the rest we do that too (not really possible in Nordstrandischmoor, thing doesn’t even have a ferry but a rail link that’s only usable when the tide is low).\n
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          And no it wasn’t my school it was my Kindergarten, which wasn’t, by a long shot, the closest to home it was the one my parents chose. I mentioned it to say that biking 3.5km is something a 4yold can do, physically, without any issue at all really.
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          > Roads are typically 2 lanes one in each direction. You already know this because you said a solution would be to remove the lane marker.\n
          \n
          I’m someone else.\n
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          > So you have a road with an elementary school, and 2 miles further down is a middle school. Even without that you have buses passing each other during pickup because busses only pickup kids on one side of the street so you don’t have young kids crossing roads.\n
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          Lots of questions here: Why can’t kids walk 500m to the next bus stop? Why are streets so unsafe so that kids can’t cross them?\n
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          Why assume that there’s no larger road in between those smaller roads? Roads generally form a hierarchy, you have big ones feeding into middle ones feeding into small ones. Small ones should absolutely be safe to cross, also without explicit crossings, because they’re traffic calmed and don’t have much traffic in the first place. That’s where houses and schools are, where there’s no through-traffic because even if they aren’t cul de sacs who would drive through a road you can’t drive fast on when there’s a mid-level road that you could take.\n
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          > What do you call a section of inner city bounded on all sides by a road in your country?\n
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          Straßenblock. Let me put it differently: We don’t have grids and nothing is regular. [This is about as grid-y as it gets](https://www.google.com/maps/@53.5753832,9.9851206,1090m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) and if you zoom in you’ll notice that the interior streets have no lane markers and some even are cobbled. Those connect to a street ( south, Hallerstraße) with bike lanes (don’t need those on smaller streets because there’s not enough traffic to warrant them), which connects to a four-lane (plus bus lane) street, Grindelalle, west. The intersection looks a bit crazy but it’s actually safe for pedestrians and you should’ve learned how to cross streets safely and what traffic lights are in Kindergarten. You’ve also been there with your parents (going shopping or whatever) a lot of times, nothing scary really. That kind of density and housing is probably illegal to build where you are (it’s illegal pretty much everywhere in the US and Canada).\n
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          And mind you Hamburg is awful when it comes to urbanism, way too car-centric. Not because of lack of public transport but because politicians are unwilling to kill off car traffic and the whole city is full of rich fucks with too much disposable income.
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          Let me look at a map… maybe 1km max anywhere in my 30k town to the next primary school and that’s when you’re living on the very very edge of town. Should be under 500m for most pupils.\n
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          If you’re living in a rural area, outside of the next village (which will have a school), which is an absolute exception as things tend to cluster into villages in rural areas, it might be 5km. Not really an issue with a bike, I biked what 3.5km to Kindergarten (together with my mom). If you have less density than that you probably should have boarding schools.\n
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          For secondary education, if you’re living in a village you’ll probably have to take the bus to the nearest city. Regular public transport though the schedule will take school times into account. Yes, kids can walk 500m to the nearest station.\n
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          Bonus: All that school density – smaller but way more of them – means that there’s obvious places to hold elections as there’s a municipality-owned place in Sunday stroll distance to pretty much everywhere. The only downside are the ludicrously low tables.
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          > A block in the US doesn’t mean a square either.\n
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          Yes, great, blame a non native speaker for expressing himself incorrectly, correcting himself, and then quadruple down on it. I was thinking of unprioritised NY-style blocks you see all over the place in US cities, gridlock magnets. You know, places where people say “down the block” and generally measure distances in blocks.\n
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          > It is required that children do not cross two lane roads to be picked up by school buses. I don’t make the rules. I don’t have a solution to US car culture. But making roads unpassable by school buses isn’t an answer.\n
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          If you look back at that Hamburg link, at those streets internal to the superblock, you’ll notice that they *are* wide enough for buses to go through. There’s no regular bus lines through there (there’s two metro stations and plenty of bus stops surrounding it) but a school bus isn’t regular service, it doesn’t need to play by the same rules. You can make a pickup at one of those very spacious intersections. It’s not being done because there’s schools in walking distance and German kids can cross roads but it *could* be done. Would you, however, ever speed on those roads.
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          Things aren’t done differently, in principle, in villages. You were the one brining up blocks or did you mean “buildings surrounded by roads *and fields*”.\n
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          [This is Wacken](https://www.google.com/maps/@54.0275469,9.3755654,169m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu) (*the* Wacken), I zoomed you in on the primary school. There’s surrounding villages without school so it’s bound to get bus traffic. Note how it’s on a street that’s wide enough for that, but not the main road, the one with all the through-traffic. Can you understand that principle. (Main Roads, actually, Wacken has two, Schenefelder and Hauptstraße).\n
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          > I only took issue with the ridiculous idea that the roads in front of rural US schools could be made safer by making them impassable by busses.\n
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          Noone ever said that? At least I didn’t.
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          > You have one bus going in one direction to a school passing another bus going to another school.\n
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          In front of a school? Are your schools connected directly to highways or something?\n
          \n
          > Have you only lived in an inner city where roads can be one way because they alternate in direction every block?\n
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          We don’t have blocks.
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          > Grundschule Niederstotzingen\n
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          [That’s not on a main road](https://www.google.com/maps/place/Grundschule+Niederstotzingen/@48.5416064,10.2369723,16.33z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x479946d4d21d8af1:0x28d0eb80cb17df7f!8m2!3d48.54188!4d10.23954!16s%2Fg%2F1tgfvlcm?entry=ttu). Zoom out a bit, the main roads are the ones leading to other villages, named after those villages (or in the case of Ulm a city in that direction).\n
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          > Grundschule Pfaffenhofen\n
          \n
          [neither](https://www.google.com/maps/place/Grundschule+Pfaffenhofen/@49.0620402,8.9749824,16.67z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x410b8f8ce5cb2efb:0x31c87e2000d06919!8m2!3d49.06201!4d8.97686!16s%2Fg%2F1tdqmls_?entry=ttu)\n
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          Didn’t check the rest\n
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          > Just like US schools, many have their own driveway that goes off the main road\n
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          Those are residential roads. [This a view of the Niederstotzingen school from the road it’s on](https://www.google.com/maps/@48.542406,10.2389314,3a,60y,119.92h,81.99t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sW-TbbzDmkVz_-XMnR0tqYg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu), the gymnasium is on the other side. Look up and down the road, there’s residential buildings there. Looking at the signage (or rather lack thereof), it’s two-way. No lane markings though small roads just don’t have them, you slow down and make sure to not shear off your side mirrors with the side mirrors of oncoming traffic. The little shack with a sign with an H is a bus stop. Only seems to be served by one bus line (at least I can’t find more), [here’s the schelude](https://www.ding.eu/fileadmin/content/downloads/ics/20230421-DING-EVG-Streik-RAB-Bus/593-Streik-RAB-Fahrten.pdf). It connects to two train stations (including thie Niederstotzingen one) roughly every 30 minutes. Frankly speaking you can walk from there you’ll be faster than waiting for the next bus.\n
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          Niederstotzingen is classed as a city btw, almost 5k inhabitants. It’s not really a size thing in Germany though and nowadays the title doesn’t have any legal meaning, city rights were granted by Kaiser Sigismund in 1430, meaning it served as the local trade hub or such. Congratulations, thanks to wikipedia I know now more about a tiny city I don’t care about in a state I don’t care for :)
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        > I’m still grateful I don’t have to jump inside one every time I need to write a python script.\n
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      > Timothée Besset, a software engineer who works on the Steam client for Valve, took to Mastodon this week to reveal: “Valve is seeing an increasing number of bug reports for issues caused by Canonical’s repackaging of the Steam client through snap”.\n
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        +body: "It’s perfectly possible to isolate a steam install, NixOS does that by default to even get it running (on NixOS nothing is where any binary blob expects it to be). There was a *very* brief issue with experimental steam when they tightened up their own sandboxing and doing sandbox-in-sandbox broke stuff but that was fixed before release as Valve is, indeed, responsive, even if the distribution isn’t officially supported. But you gotta have some professionalism and have institutional continuity, they don’t want to deal with J. Random Hacker doing a one-off packaging job. Or distros trying to be smart and replace the steam runtime with their own library versions. Basically, assume that the whole thing runs directly on the kernel, make sure to have graphics drivers, and you’ll be fine running it as-is."
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    > I’m still grateful I don’t have to jump inside one every time I need to write a python script.\n
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    Honestly, I’m on NixOS and it’s not a bother because it saves time down the line when your script would break during a system upgrade which it doesn’t on NixOS as without you telling it to, it will still use all the old dependencies. Also you already have a couple of `flake.nix` floating around you can just copy and adjust and direnv does the rest.
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        Also, it *is* a time management issue, on a cultural level. Try getting Germans to stay past their shift they’ll tell you to get better at managing. Not their department, not their problem.\n
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        Thinking “fixing this requires a socialist revolution” honestly is part of the problem: Organise to fix the issue, there, workers will see that issues can be fixed, fix more that comes up, and they’ll both be emboldened and educated about their strength. Foreplay before sex.
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          Also, it *is* a time management issue, on a cultural level. Try getting Germans to stay past their shift they’ll tell you to get better at managing. Not their department, not their problem.\n
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        The one thing they’re missing, which honestly shouldn’t happen on at least desktop distros, is the system becoming unresponsive under memory pressure because before the kernel decides to kill off anything it rather swaps its own data structures out to disk, grinding everything to such a crawl that it’s indistinguishable from a complete freeze.\n
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          Stop-gap measure like the Teletubbies. No, wait, hear me out: The whole thing is a very scientific, and successful, way to teach basic language skills to toddlers parked in front of the TV. It does the maximum possible in the situation but the results are still worse than plain old interactions with actual people.
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    The human body can’t turn dietary fluoride into harder enamel, it has to stay on the teeth, topically, for a while to soak in. As such drinking water is a suboptimal way of going about applying it to teeth. Fluoride in toothpaste is highly effective. Dentists applying highly-concentrated fluoride stuff directly to your teeth even more. In people who actually get their teeth made resilient by such measures fluoridated drinking water has exactly zero impact as the teeth can’t get more resilient, in people who don’t, well, it’s something, a little step. There’s a reason Europe isn’t fluoridating drinking water: We don’t have huge segments of the population falling through the gaps of the health system.\n
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    > is cheap AF, and is completely trivial to distribute.\n
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          Fluoride might be sufficiently safe in the drinking water and it’s slightly effective but you know what would *actually* help? Dental hygiene. Fluoride in a form that actually stays with the teeth for more than a split second and has a chance to soak in instead of being drunk, i.e. toothpaste. Fluor in tap water is an absolute stop-gap measure introduced by a country which can’t be arsed to have universal healthcare, they apparently can’t even be arsed to have a campaign to get people to brush their fucking teeth.\n
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        Social status and exclusivity plays into it in practice, for sure, in a right-out fetishistic sense: Like there’s chefs who have onions chopped so fine, using a special technique (not the usual chef technique you see) that they melt in the sauce, very labour-intensive. Now, having the onions melt into the sauce is a nice and valid thing, however, why in the everloving fuck aren’t you using a blender. Even *if* there’s a difference, which all my experience tells me there isn’t, it’s going to have such a minimal return on investment it’s utterly pointless but as an exercise in exclusivity.\n
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    Social status and exclusivity plays into it in practice, for sure, in a right-out fetishistic sense: Like there’s chefs who have onions chopped so fine, using a special technique (not the usual chef technique you see) that they melt in the sauce, very labour-intensive. Now, having the onions melt into the sauce is a nice and valid thing, however, why in the everloving fuck aren’t you using a blender. Even *if* there’s a difference, which all my experience tells me there isn’t, it’s going to have such a minimal return on investment it’s utterly pointless but as an exercise in exclusivity.\n
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          > ?(i.e.: Haute-cuisine is not that important)\n
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    Social status and exclusivity plays into it in practice, for sure, in a right-out fetishistic sense: Like there’s chefs who have onions chopped so fine, using a special technique (not the usual chef technique you see) that they melt in the sauce, very labour-intensive. Now, having the onions melt into the sauce is a nice and valid thing, however, why in the everloving fuck aren’t you using a blender. Even *if* there’s a difference, which all my experience tells me there isn’t, it’s going to have such a minimal return on investment it’s utterly pointless but as an exercise in exclusivity.\n
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          > ?(i.e.: Haute-cuisine is not that important)\n
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          Social status and exclusivity plays into it in practice, for sure, in a right-out fetishistic sense: Like there’s chefs who have onions chopped so fine, using a special technique (not the usual chef technique you see) that they melt in the sauce, very labour-intensive. Now, having the onions melt into the sauce is a nice and valid thing, however, why in the everloving fuck aren’t you using a blender. Even *if* there’s a difference, which all my experience tells me there isn’t, it’s going to have such a minimal return on investment it’s utterly pointless but as an exercise in exclusivity.\n
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          Because of the health inspector, yes. The restaurant critic, now disgraced for having talked up an “unsanitary” restaurant, is eating at the new place, happy as a clam.\n
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          The social status and renown that comes with haute cuisine indeed is unimportant, it’s the food that’s important.
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    > ?(i.e.: Haute-cuisine is not that important)\n
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          Social status and exclusivity plays into it in practice, for sure, in a right-out fetishistic sense: Like there’s chefs who have onions chopped so fine, using a special technique (not the usual chef technique you see) that they melt in the sauce, very labour-intensive. Now, having the onions melt into the sauce is a nice and valid thing, however, why in the everloving fuck aren’t you using a blender. Even *if* there’s a difference, which all my experience tells me there isn’t, it’s going to have such a minimal return on investment it’s utterly pointless but as an exercise in exclusivity.\n
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          Because of the health inspector, yes. The restaurant critic, now disgraced for having talked up an “unsanitary” restaurant, is eating at the new place, happy as a clam.\n
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          The social status and renown that comes with haute cuisine indeed is unimportant, it’s the food that’s important.
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    > ?(i.e.: Haute-cuisine is not that important)\n
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    Nah. [Confit byaldi](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confit_byaldi) is ludicrously haute-cuisine, needs three-star levels of manual prep work. The tag line is “Not everyone can be a great cook – but a great cook can come from anywhere”. And so can a good recipe or idea, that wasn’t ever new in French cuisine it’s been riffing off peasant recipes for ages, Escoffier did plenty of that.\n
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          Social status and exclusivity plays into it in practice, for sure, in a right-out fetishistic sense: Like there’s chefs who have onions chopped so fine, using a special technique (not the usual chef technique you see) that they melt in the sauce, very labour-intensive. Now, having the onions melt into the sauce is a nice and valid thing, however, why in the everloving fuck aren’t you using a blender. Even *if* there’s a difference, which all my experience tells me there isn’t, it’s going to have such a minimal return on investment it’s utterly pointless but as an exercise in exclusivity.\n
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          Social status and exclusivity plays into it in practice, for sure, in a right-out fetishistic sense: Like there’s chefs who have onions chopped so fine, using a special technique (not the usual chef technique you see) that they melt in the sauce, very labour-intensive. Now, having the onions melt into the sauce is a nice and valid thing, however, why in the everloving fuck aren’t you using a blender. Even *if* there’s a difference, which all my experience tells me there isn’t, it’s going to have such a minimal return on investment it’s utterly pointless but as an exercise in exclusivity.\n
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          > ?(i.e.: Haute-cuisine is not that important)\n
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