GET https://kbin.spritesserver.nl/m/star_wars@lemmy.world/t/13097/Is-there-a-good-list-of-which-materials-are-considered/oldest

Response
200 OK
IP
18.227.49.242
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Token
82b655

Security

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Firewall

main Name
Security enabled
Stateless

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Access Decision

affirmative Strategy
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"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
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"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
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 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
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      **3. No memeposts.** Memes are great and everybody loves them, but there is already [!starwarsmemes@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/starwarsmemes) for those.\n
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"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
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 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
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 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
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 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
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 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
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 ACCESS ABSTAIN
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      **3. No memeposts.** Memes are great and everybody loves them, but there is already [!starwarsmemes@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/starwarsmemes) for those.\n
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      Not precisely. The Lucasfilm group licensed and approved official EU material. There were certain limitations placed such as up until the prequels avoiding the Clone Wars era in EU fiction, and avoiding elaborating on Yoda’s race. George Lucas did have some direct contact with EU authors for feedback.\n
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    So, as a rule of thumb, only products coming from Lucasfilm directly are considered canon.\n
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    I remembered this because I was an active 501st member and remember the uproar when the EU was left out of the canon. A lot of people was pissed with the decision. But it is what it is.
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        Not precisely. The Lucasfilm group licensed and approved official EU material. There were certain limitations placed such as up until the prequels avoiding the Clone Wars era in EU fiction, and avoiding elaborating on Yoda’s race. George Lucas did have some direct contact with EU authors for feedback.\n
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      [en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars_in_other_media#…](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars_in_other_media#Holocron_database_and_canonicity)\n
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      That’s old. It all changed in 2014.\n
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        Thank you\n
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        Is this an explicit division of Canon?\n
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        What is her is not part of the Star wars universe was never explicitly stated by Lucas or by Disney right?\n
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          In short the “Disney canon” includes the 9 saga movies, rogue one and solo, the cartoon network 2008-2013 “the clone Wars” with Dave Filoni, star wars rebels, and star wars resistance. There are also of course tons of books and comics released in this canon as well but I believe there is a little overlap with old canon and Disney canon releases\n
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        Thank you\n
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        Is this an explicit division of Canon?\n
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        And none of the books have ever been considered Canon as far as you know?\n
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        What is her is not part of the Star wars universe was never explicitly stated by Lucas or by Disney right?\n
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      I think they missed the Disney shows which are of course canon.\n
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      I’m in the minority here, but I consider Obi-wan especially to be primary canon, as necessary as Movies 1-6. They retconned in the emotional core of the whole damn saga with Obi-wan and fully realized Vader’s confrontation and resolution. That moment truly bridged the OT and prequels for me like nothing else had.
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    Disney’s stated policy is that there is no longer primary/secondary canon. There is (at least supposed to be) a storygroup working for Disney to ensure everything they make fits together because everything is equally canon.\n
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          In short the “Disney canon” includes the 9 saga movies, rogue one and solo, the cartoon network 2008-2013 “the clone Wars” with Dave Filoni, star wars rebels, and star wars resistance. There are also of course tons of books and comics released in this canon as well but I believe there is a little overlap with old canon and Disney canon releases\n
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        Thank you\n
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        Is this an explicit division of Canon?\n
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        And none of the books have ever been considered Canon as far as you know?\n
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        What is her is not part of the Star wars universe was never explicitly stated by Lucas or by Disney right?\n
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      I think they missed the Disney shows which are of course canon.\n
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      I’m in the minority here, but I consider Obi-wan especially to be primary canon, as necessary as Movies 1-6. They retconned in the emotional core of the whole damn saga with Obi-wan and fully realized Vader’s confrontation and resolution. That moment truly bridged the OT and prequels for me like nothing else had.
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        Thank you\n
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        Is this an explicit division of Canon?\n
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      I think they missed the Disney shows which are of course canon.\n
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        Is this an explicit division of Canon?\n
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            In short the “Disney canon” includes the 9 saga movies, rogue one and solo, the cartoon network 2008-2013 “the clone Wars” with Dave Filoni, star wars rebels, and star wars resistance. There are also of course tons of books and comics released in this canon as well but I believe there is a little overlap with old canon and Disney canon releases\n
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          Is this an explicit division of Canon?\n
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        I think they missed the Disney shows which are of course canon.\n
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          Is this an explicit division of Canon?\n
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        I think they missed the Disney shows which are of course canon.\n
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        I’m in the minority here, but I consider Obi-wan especially to be primary canon, as necessary as Movies 1-6. They retconned in the emotional core of the whole damn saga with Obi-wan and fully realized Vader’s confrontation and resolution. That moment truly bridged the OT and prequels for me like nothing else had.
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          In short the “Disney canon” includes the 9 saga movies, rogue one and solo, the cartoon network 2008-2013 “the clone Wars” with Dave Filoni, star wars rebels, and star wars resistance. There are also of course tons of books and comics released in this canon as well but I believe there is a little overlap with old canon and Disney canon releases\n
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        Is this an explicit division of Canon?\n
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        And none of the books have ever been considered Canon as far as you know?\n
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        What is her is not part of the Star wars universe was never explicitly stated by Lucas or by Disney right?\n
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        Is this an explicit division of Canon?\n
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      I think they missed the Disney shows which are of course canon.\n
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    I get what you’re saying now. I actually double checked myself and the buyout happened in 2012, but the erasure of the old EU happened after 2014.\n
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    I get what you’re saying now. I actually double checked myself and the buyout happened in 2012, but the erasure of the old EU happened after 2014.\n
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          In short the “Disney canon” includes the 9 saga movies, rogue one and solo, the cartoon network 2008-2013 “the clone Wars” with Dave Filoni, star wars rebels, and star wars resistance. There are also of course tons of books and comics released in this canon as well but I believe there is a little overlap with old canon and Disney canon releases\n
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    I get what you’re saying now. I actually double checked myself and the buyout happened in 2012, but the erasure of the old EU happened after 2014.\n
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          Oh that’s a good point. I know about Wookiepedia but I haven’t visited it yet. I will.\n
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    Going to piggyback. When Disney got the rights and wiped out the old Expanded Universe, what was left were the original trilogy, the prequels, and the Clone Wars (the 3D one) cartoon. Everything else was decanonized.\n
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          Oh that’s a good point. I know about Wookiepedia but I haven’t visited it yet. I will.\n
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    Going to piggyback. When Disney got the rights and wiped out the old Expanded Universe, what was left were the original trilogy, the prequels, and the Clone Wars (the 3D one) cartoon. Everything else was decanonized.\n
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            Oh that’s a good point. I know about Wookiepedia but I haven’t visited it yet. I will.\n
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      Going to piggyback. When Disney got the rights and wiped out the old Expanded Universe, what was left were the original trilogy, the prequels, and the Clone Wars (the 3D one) cartoon. Everything else was decanonized.\n
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    Oh, I was wondering what Legends referred to. Thank you.\n
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            Oh that’s a good point. I know about Wookiepedia but I haven’t visited it yet. I will.\n
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            Oh that’s a good point. I know about Wookiepedia but I haven’t visited it yet. I will.\n
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      Going to piggyback. When Disney got the rights and wiped out the old Expanded Universe, what was left were the original trilogy, the prequels, and the Clone Wars (the 3D one) cartoon. Everything else was decanonized.\n
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              Oh that’s a good point. I know about Wookiepedia but I haven’t visited it yet. I will.\n
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        Going to piggyback. When Disney got the rights and wiped out the old Expanded Universe, what was left were the original trilogy, the prequels, and the Clone Wars (the 3D one) cartoon. Everything else was decanonized.\n
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      Oh, I was wondering what Legends referred to. Thank you.\n
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              Oh that’s a good point. I know about Wookiepedia but I haven’t visited it yet. I will.\n
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        Going to piggyback. When Disney got the rights and wiped out the old Expanded Universe, what was left were the original trilogy, the prequels, and the Clone Wars (the 3D one) cartoon. Everything else was decanonized.\n
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      Oh, I was wondering what Legends referred to. Thank you.\n
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