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> But opening up that definition\n
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> But opening up that definition means we need another way to refer to people who are physically transitioning, because there are meaningful differences in their experiences and needs.\n
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> But opening up that definition means we need another way to refer to people who are physically transitioning, because there are meaningful differences in their experiences and needs.\n
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No we don’t. Not everyone who undergoes medical transition undergoes the same journey. Some folk want surgery, some folk want HRT, some folk want both, some folk want one but not the other. Some folk want to micro dose, some folk want to replicate cis hormone levels.\n
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> Defining “trans” to be narrower than the wider definition is only wrong because we’re attached to the current definition\n
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No we don’t. Not everyone who undergoes medical transition undergoes the same journey. Some folk want surgery, some folk want HRT, some folk want both, some folk want one but not the other. Some folk want to micro dose, some folk want to replicate cis hormone levels.\n
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There is no meaningful catch all term that summarises the needs of all of those folk. Trying to find a single term to capture that spectrum leads to a single narrative of what medical transition looks like, and makes it harder for people to transition on their own terms.\n
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The language we need to talk about these things already exists, and is improving and changing with time. Nothing is gained by returning to the old days of binary terms and all or nothing language.\n
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> there’s nothing inherently gatekeeping about it;\n
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Yes there is. It’s defining folk who medically transition as being a different class of trans folk. We’re not a different class. We *all* of us have unique needs, and the language should focus on those individual needs, whether they’re medical, social or other.\n
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> Defining “trans” to be narrower than the wider definition is only wrong because we’re attached to the current definition\n
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This is exactly the sort of thing I was talking about in my original reply. I’m a binary trans woman, who medically transitioned with all of the bells and whistles, and so I get lumped in with people who genuinely believe statements like this.\n
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I actively, loudly and strongly disagree with what you’ve said here, and I hate that people often assume I share beliefs like that. Defining the term trans to be narrower than it is is gatekeeping, end of story. It denies people the right to their own identity. That is inherently bad. People define for themselves, even in a hypothetical scenario where bad faith actors try and fuck it up
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