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user_box | App\Twig\Components\UserBoxComponent | 12.0 MiB | 16.15 ms | |
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Input props | [ "user" => App\Entity\User {#259 +avatar: null +cover: null +email: "barsoap@lemm.ee" +username: "@barsoap@lemm.ee" +roles: [] +followersCount: 0 +homepage: "front" +about: null +lastActive: DateTime @1726883789 {#267 : 2024-09-21 03:56:29.0 +02:00 } +markedForDeletionAt: null +fields: null +oauthGithubId: null +oauthGoogleId: null +oauthFacebookId: null +oauthKeycloakId: null +hideAdult: true +showSubscribedUsers: true +showSubscribedMagazines: true +showSubscribedDomains: true +preferredLanguages: [] +featuredMagazines: null +showProfileSubscriptions: false +showProfileFollowings: true +markNewComments: false +notifyOnNewEntry: false +notifyOnNewEntryReply: true +notifyOnNewEntryCommentReply: true +notifyOnNewPost: false +notifyOnNewPostReply: true +notifyOnNewPostCommentReply: true +addMentionsEntries: false +addMentionsPosts: true +isBanned: false +isVerified: false +isDeleted: false +isBot: false +spamProtection: true +customCss: null +ignoreMagazinesCustomCss: false +moderatorTokens: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#246 …} +magazineOwnershipRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#242 …} +moderatorRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#231 …} +entries: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#189 …} +entryVotes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#161 …} +entryComments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#134 …} +entryCommentVotes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#104 …} +posts: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#77 …} +postVotes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#92 …} +postComments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1816 …} +postCommentVotes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1851 …} +subscriptions: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1868 …} +subscribedDomains: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1594 …} +follows: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1602 …} +followers: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1768 …} +blocks: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1862 …} +blockers: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1836 …} +blockedMagazines: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1846 …} +blockedDomains: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1831 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2410 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1955 …} +violations: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2399 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1911 …} +awards: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1914 …} +subscribedCategories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1884 …} +categories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1915 …} -id: 38681 -password: "$2y$13$4Ha0XqoXNRcxXKXlCwWZZOnqT/x9rQtWm6MiNEMAMrUvIjlY3cly6" -totpSecret: null -totpBackupCodes: [] -oAuth2UserConsents: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1950 …} +apId: "barsoap@lemm.ee" +apProfileId: "https://lemm.ee/u/barsoap" +apPublicUrl: "https://lemm.ee/u/barsoap" +apFollowersUrl: null +apInboxUrl: "https://lemm.ee/inbox" +apDomain: "lemm.ee" +apPreferredUsername: "barsoap" +apDiscoverable: true +apManuallyApprovesFollowers: false +privateKey: null +publicKey: null +apFetchedAt: DateTime @1723408196 {#272 : 2024-08-11 22:29:56.0 +02:00 } +apDeletedAt: null +apTimeoutAt: null +visibility: "visible " +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1691230838 {#269 : 2023-08-05 12:20:38.0 +02:00 } } "stretchedLink" => false ] |
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Component | App\Twig\Components\UserBoxComponent {#2168 +user: App\Entity\User {#259 +avatar: null +cover: null +email: "barsoap@lemm.ee" +username: "@barsoap@lemm.ee" +roles: [] +followersCount: 0 +homepage: "front" +about: null +lastActive: DateTime @1726883789 {#267 : 2024-09-21 03:56:29.0 +02:00 } +markedForDeletionAt: null +fields: null +oauthGithubId: null +oauthGoogleId: null +oauthFacebookId: null +oauthKeycloakId: null +hideAdult: true +showSubscribedUsers: true +showSubscribedMagazines: true +showSubscribedDomains: true +preferredLanguages: [] +featuredMagazines: null +showProfileSubscriptions: false +showProfileFollowings: true +markNewComments: false +notifyOnNewEntry: false +notifyOnNewEntryReply: true +notifyOnNewEntryCommentReply: true +notifyOnNewPost: false +notifyOnNewPostReply: true +notifyOnNewPostCommentReply: true +addMentionsEntries: false +addMentionsPosts: true +isBanned: false +isVerified: false +isDeleted: false +isBot: false +spamProtection: true +customCss: null +ignoreMagazinesCustomCss: false +moderatorTokens: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#246 …} +magazineOwnershipRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#242 …} +moderatorRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#231 …} +entries: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#189 …} +entryVotes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#161 …} +entryComments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#134 …} +entryCommentVotes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#104 …} +posts: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#77 …} +postVotes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#92 …} +postComments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1816 …} +postCommentVotes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1851 …} +subscriptions: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1868 …} +subscribedDomains: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1594 …} +follows: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1602 …} +followers: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1768 …} +blocks: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1862 …} +blockers: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1836 …} +blockedMagazines: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1846 …} +blockedDomains: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1831 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2410 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1955 …} +violations: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2399 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1911 …} +awards: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1914 …} +subscribedCategories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1884 …} +categories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1915 …} -id: 38681 -password: "$2y$13$4Ha0XqoXNRcxXKXlCwWZZOnqT/x9rQtWm6MiNEMAMrUvIjlY3cly6" -totpSecret: null -totpBackupCodes: [] -oAuth2UserConsents: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1950 …} +apId: "barsoap@lemm.ee" +apProfileId: "https://lemm.ee/u/barsoap" +apPublicUrl: "https://lemm.ee/u/barsoap" +apFollowersUrl: null +apInboxUrl: "https://lemm.ee/inbox" +apDomain: "lemm.ee" +apPreferredUsername: "barsoap" +apDiscoverable: true +apManuallyApprovesFollowers: false +privateKey: null +publicKey: null +apFetchedAt: DateTime @1723408196 {#272 : 2024-08-11 22:29:56.0 +02:00 } +apDeletedAt: null +apTimeoutAt: null +visibility: "visible " +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1691230838 {#269 : 2023-08-05 12:20:38.0 +02:00 } } +stretchedLink: false } |
user_actions | App\Twig\Components\UserActionsComponent | 12.0 MiB | 15.44 ms | |
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Input props | [ "user" => App\Entity\User {#259 +avatar: null +cover: null +email: "barsoap@lemm.ee" +username: "@barsoap@lemm.ee" +roles: [] +followersCount: 0 +homepage: "front" +about: null +lastActive: DateTime @1726883789 {#267 : 2024-09-21 03:56:29.0 +02:00 } +markedForDeletionAt: null +fields: null +oauthGithubId: null +oauthGoogleId: null +oauthFacebookId: null +oauthKeycloakId: null +hideAdult: true +showSubscribedUsers: true +showSubscribedMagazines: true +showSubscribedDomains: true +preferredLanguages: [] +featuredMagazines: null +showProfileSubscriptions: false +showProfileFollowings: true +markNewComments: false +notifyOnNewEntry: false +notifyOnNewEntryReply: true +notifyOnNewEntryCommentReply: true +notifyOnNewPost: false +notifyOnNewPostReply: true +notifyOnNewPostCommentReply: true +addMentionsEntries: false +addMentionsPosts: true +isBanned: false +isVerified: false +isDeleted: false +isBot: false +spamProtection: true +customCss: null +ignoreMagazinesCustomCss: false +moderatorTokens: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#246 …} +magazineOwnershipRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#242 …} +moderatorRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#231 …} +entries: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#189 …} +entryVotes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#161 …} +entryComments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#134 …} +entryCommentVotes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#104 …} +posts: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#77 …} +postVotes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#92 …} +postComments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1816 …} +postCommentVotes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1851 …} +subscriptions: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1868 …} +subscribedDomains: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1594 …} +follows: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1602 …} +followers: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1768 …} +blocks: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1862 …} +blockers: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1836 …} +blockedMagazines: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1846 …} +blockedDomains: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1831 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2410 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1955 …} +violations: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2399 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1911 …} +awards: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1914 …} +subscribedCategories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1884 …} +categories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1915 …} -id: 38681 -password: "$2y$13$4Ha0XqoXNRcxXKXlCwWZZOnqT/x9rQtWm6MiNEMAMrUvIjlY3cly6" -totpSecret: null -totpBackupCodes: [] -oAuth2UserConsents: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1950 …} +apId: "barsoap@lemm.ee" +apProfileId: "https://lemm.ee/u/barsoap" +apPublicUrl: "https://lemm.ee/u/barsoap" +apFollowersUrl: null +apInboxUrl: "https://lemm.ee/inbox" +apDomain: "lemm.ee" +apPreferredUsername: "barsoap" +apDiscoverable: true +apManuallyApprovesFollowers: false +privateKey: null +publicKey: null +apFetchedAt: DateTime @1723408196 {#272 : 2024-08-11 22:29:56.0 +02:00 } +apDeletedAt: null +apTimeoutAt: null +visibility: "visible " +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1691230838 {#269 : 2023-08-05 12:20:38.0 +02:00 } } ] |
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Component | App\Twig\Components\UserActionsComponent {#2610 +user: App\Entity\User {#259 +avatar: null +cover: null +email: "barsoap@lemm.ee" +username: "@barsoap@lemm.ee" +roles: [] +followersCount: 0 +homepage: "front" +about: null +lastActive: DateTime @1726883789 {#267 : 2024-09-21 03:56:29.0 +02:00 } +markedForDeletionAt: null +fields: null +oauthGithubId: null +oauthGoogleId: null +oauthFacebookId: null +oauthKeycloakId: null +hideAdult: true +showSubscribedUsers: true +showSubscribedMagazines: true +showSubscribedDomains: true +preferredLanguages: [] +featuredMagazines: null +showProfileSubscriptions: false +showProfileFollowings: true +markNewComments: false +notifyOnNewEntry: false +notifyOnNewEntryReply: true +notifyOnNewEntryCommentReply: true +notifyOnNewPost: false +notifyOnNewPostReply: true +notifyOnNewPostCommentReply: true +addMentionsEntries: false +addMentionsPosts: true +isBanned: false +isVerified: false +isDeleted: false +isBot: false +spamProtection: true +customCss: null +ignoreMagazinesCustomCss: false +moderatorTokens: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#246 …} +magazineOwnershipRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#242 …} +moderatorRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#231 …} +entries: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#189 …} +entryVotes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#161 …} +entryComments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#134 …} +entryCommentVotes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#104 …} +posts: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#77 …} +postVotes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#92 …} +postComments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1816 …} +postCommentVotes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1851 …} +subscriptions: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1868 …} +subscribedDomains: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1594 …} +follows: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1602 …} +followers: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1768 …} +blocks: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1862 …} +blockers: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1836 …} +blockedMagazines: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1846 …} +blockedDomains: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1831 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2410 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1955 …} +violations: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2399 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1911 …} +awards: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1914 …} +subscribedCategories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1884 …} +categories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1915 …} -id: 38681 -password: "$2y$13$4Ha0XqoXNRcxXKXlCwWZZOnqT/x9rQtWm6MiNEMAMrUvIjlY3cly6" -totpSecret: null -totpBackupCodes: [] -oAuth2UserConsents: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1950 …} +apId: "barsoap@lemm.ee" +apProfileId: "https://lemm.ee/u/barsoap" +apPublicUrl: "https://lemm.ee/u/barsoap" +apFollowersUrl: null +apInboxUrl: "https://lemm.ee/inbox" +apDomain: "lemm.ee" +apPreferredUsername: "barsoap" +apDiscoverable: true +apManuallyApprovesFollowers: false +privateKey: null +publicKey: null +apFetchedAt: DateTime @1723408196 {#272 : 2024-08-11 22:29:56.0 +02:00 } +apDeletedAt: null +apTimeoutAt: null +visibility: "visible " +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1691230838 {#269 : 2023-08-05 12:20:38.0 +02:00 } } } |
entry | App\Twig\Components\EntryComponent | 12.0 MiB | 107.18 ms | |
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Input props | [ "entry" => Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#2053 +avatar: null +cover: null +email: "AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" +username: "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" +roles: [] +followersCount: 0 +homepage: "front" +about: null +lastActive: DateTime @1703279744 {#3319 : 2023-12-22 22:15:44.0 +01:00 } +markedForDeletionAt: null +fields: null +oauthGithubId: null +oauthGoogleId: null +oauthFacebookId: null +oauthKeycloakId: null +hideAdult: true +showSubscribedUsers: true +showSubscribedMagazines: true +showSubscribedDomains: true +preferredLanguages: [] +featuredMagazines: null +showProfileSubscriptions: false +showProfileFollowings: true +markNewComments: false +notifyOnNewEntry: false +notifyOnNewEntryReply: true +notifyOnNewEntryCommentReply: true +notifyOnNewPost: false +notifyOnNewPostReply: true +notifyOnNewPostCommentReply: true +addMentionsEntries: false +addMentionsPosts: true +isBanned: false +isVerified: false +isDeleted: false +isBot: false +spamProtection: true +customCss: null +ignoreMagazinesCustomCss: false +moderatorTokens: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3322 …} +magazineOwnershipRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3324 …} +moderatorRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3326 …} +entries: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3328 …} +entryVotes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3330 …} +entryComments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3332 …} +entryCommentVotes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3334 …} +posts: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3336 …} +postVotes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3338 …} +postComments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3340 …} +postCommentVotes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3342 …} +subscriptions: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3344 …} +subscribedDomains: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3346 …} +follows: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3348 …} +followers: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3350 …} +blocks: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3352 …} +blockers: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3354 …} +blockedMagazines: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3356 …} +blockedDomains: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3358 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3360 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3362 …} +violations: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3364 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3366 …} +awards: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3368 …} +subscribedCategories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3370 …} +categories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3372 …} -id: 58242 -password: "$2y$13$3i7PHUSyAfluiZ6e8.tpUe9XsBt6UoPvQD9/KuKjoVD/.4xEdqfxe" -totpSecret: null -totpBackupCodes: [] -oAuth2UserConsents: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3374 …} +apId: "AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" +apProfileId: "https://lemmy.one/u/AdventuringAardvark" +apPublicUrl: "https://lemmy.one/u/AdventuringAardvark" +apFollowersUrl: null +apInboxUrl: "https://lemmy.one/inbox" +apDomain: "lemmy.one" +apPreferredUsername: "AdventuringAardvark" +apDiscoverable: true +apManuallyApprovesFollowers: false +privateKey: null +publicKey: null +apFetchedAt: DateTime @1707611335 {#3320 : 2024-02-11 01:28:55.0 +01:00 } +apDeletedAt: null +apTimeoutAt: null +visibility: "visible " +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1697237864 {#3321 : 2023-10-14 00:57:44.0 +02:00 } +__isInitialized__: true …2 } +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 +icon: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#3174 …} +name: "linuxmemes@lemmy.world" +title: "linuxmemes" +description: """ I use Arch btw\n \n ---\n \n Sister communities:* [LemmyMemes](https://lemmy.world/c/memes@lemmy.world): Memes * [LemmyShitpost](https://lemmy.world/c/lemmyshitpost): Anything and everything goes. * [RISA](https://startrek.website/c/risa): Star Trek memes and shitposts\n \n Community rules1. Follow the site-wide rules and [code of conduct](https://join-lemmy.org/docs/code_of_conduct.html)2. Be civil 3. Post Linux-related content 4. No recent reposts Please report posts and comments that break these rules! """ +rules: null +subscriptionsCount: 1 +entryCount: 398 +entryCommentCount: 11895 +postCount: 1 +postCommentCount: 0 +isAdult: false +customCss: null +lastActive: DateTime @1726884280 {#3171 : 2024-09-21 04:04:40.0 +02:00 } +markedForDeletionAt: null +tags: null +moderators: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3175 …} +ownershipRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3177 …} +moderatorRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3179 …} +entries: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3181 …} +posts: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3183 …} +subscriptions: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3185 …} +bans: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3191 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3199 …} +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3212 …} +logs: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3222 …} +awards: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3204 …} +categories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3228 …} -id: 83 +apId: "linuxmemes@lemmy.world" +apProfileId: "https://lemmy.world/c/linuxmemes" +apPublicUrl: "https://lemmy.world/c/linuxmemes" +apFollowersUrl: "https://lemmy.world/c/linuxmemes/followers" +apInboxUrl: "https://lemmy.world/inbox" +apDomain: "lemmy.world" +apPreferredUsername: "linuxmemes" +apDiscoverable: true +apManuallyApprovesFollowers: null +privateKey: null +publicKey: null +apFetchedAt: DateTime @1719076635 {#3172 : 2024-06-22 19:17:15.0 +02:00 } +apDeletedAt: null +apTimeoutAt: null +visibility: "visible " +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1699095615 {#3173 : 2023-11-04 12:00:15.0 +01:00 } +__isInitialized__: true …2 } +image: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#2199 …} +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#2267 …} +slug: "Linus-does-not-fuck-around" +title: "Linus does not fuck around" +url: "https://lemmy.one/pictrs/image/f5614afd-25b9-4afe-a003-00eab7c7fb34.png" +body: "An oldie, but a goodie" +type: "image" +lang: "en" +isOc: false +hasEmbed: true +commentCount: 471 +favouriteCount: 1556 +score: 0 +isAdult: false +sticky: false +lastActive: DateTime @1720068489 {#2101 : 2024-07-04 06:48:09.0 +02:00 } +ip: null +adaAmount: 0 +tags: null +mentions: null +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2268 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2266 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2200 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2246 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2260 …} +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2142 …} +children: [ 7 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1614 +user: App\Entity\User {#259 +avatar: null +cover: null +email: "barsoap@lemm.ee" +username: "@barsoap@lemm.ee" +roles: [] +followersCount: 0 +homepage: "front" +about: null +lastActive: DateTime @1726883789 {#267 : 2024-09-21 03:56:29.0 +02:00 } +markedForDeletionAt: null +fields: null +oauthGithubId: null +oauthGoogleId: null +oauthFacebookId: null +oauthKeycloakId: null +hideAdult: true +showSubscribedUsers: true +showSubscribedMagazines: true +showSubscribedDomains: true +preferredLanguages: [] +featuredMagazines: null +showProfileSubscriptions: false +showProfileFollowings: true +markNewComments: false +notifyOnNewEntry: false +notifyOnNewEntryReply: true +notifyOnNewEntryCommentReply: true +notifyOnNewPost: false +notifyOnNewPostReply: true +notifyOnNewPostCommentReply: true +addMentionsEntries: false +addMentionsPosts: true +isBanned: false +isVerified: false +isDeleted: false +isBot: false +spamProtection: true +customCss: null +ignoreMagazinesCustomCss: false +moderatorTokens: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#246 …} +magazineOwnershipRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#242 …} +moderatorRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#231 …} +entries: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#189 …} +entryVotes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#161 …} +entryComments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#134 …} +entryCommentVotes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#104 …} +posts: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#77 …} +postVotes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#92 …} +postComments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1816 …} +postCommentVotes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1851 …} +subscriptions: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1868 …} +subscribedDomains: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1594 …} +follows: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1602 …} +followers: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1768 …} +blocks: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1862 …} +blockers: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1836 …} +blockedMagazines: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1846 …} +blockedDomains: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1831 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2410 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1955 …} +violations: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2399 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1911 …} +awards: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1914 …} +subscribedCategories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1884 …} +categories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1915 …} -id: 38681 -password: "$2y$13$4Ha0XqoXNRcxXKXlCwWZZOnqT/x9rQtWm6MiNEMAMrUvIjlY3cly6" -totpSecret: null -totpBackupCodes: [] -oAuth2UserConsents: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1950 …} +apId: "barsoap@lemm.ee" +apProfileId: "https://lemm.ee/u/barsoap" +apPublicUrl: "https://lemm.ee/u/barsoap" +apFollowersUrl: null +apInboxUrl: "https://lemm.ee/inbox" +apDomain: "lemm.ee" +apPreferredUsername: "barsoap" +apDiscoverable: true +apManuallyApprovesFollowers: false +privateKey: null +publicKey: null +apFetchedAt: DateTime @1723408196 {#272 : 2024-08-11 22:29:56.0 +02:00 } +apDeletedAt: null +apTimeoutAt: null +visibility: "visible " +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1691230838 {#269 : 2023-08-05 12:20:38.0 +02:00 } } +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +body: """ Nah it’s completely fine. I vastly prefer an angry-sounding takedown over a passive aggressive takedown and a takedown Mauro definitely deserved because his code was, in fact, utter shite, *and that as a maintainer*. This isn’t “oh he’s a noob he doesn’t know how the kernel works” type of territory. Also note that this happened *after* he had been told what’s up in a neutral and factual way: Linus, even in his most management by perkele days, never made those things the first reply to anything. So Mauro got his chance to spot that he fucked up and correct his approach, he didn’t, therefore, it has to be said loudly. Simple as that.\n \n Also, no “you should be aborted retroactively” in sight anywhere. Yeah that stuff wasn’t necessary even though everyone with an ounce of social intelligence should readily spot that those insults were always so over the top as to be obviously humorous. 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Mauro gets paid to work on the kernel and is not a noob who doesn’t know better, either, he’s a maintainer who fucked up basic maintenance." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 15 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701954818 {#1572 : 2023-12-07 14:13:38.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@jose1324@lemmy.world" "@redhat" "@Synthead@lemmy.world" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1548 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1554 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1556 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1555 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1620 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1604 …} -id: 206422 -bodyTs: "'address':8 'basic':39 'better':30 'doesn':27 'either':31 'fuck':37 'get':14 'kernel':20 'know':29 'maintain':35 'mainten':40 'mauro':13 'messag':4 'might':11 'noob':25 'notic':12 'paid':15 'redhat':7 'work':17" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7083443" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701954818 {#1563 : 2023-12-07 14:13:38.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206422 } 5 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1701 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1683 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +body: """ “being a dick” and “assertive” are weasel terms which do a hell a lot of lifting in your argument there. I have no idea where your line for behaviour to be deemed acceptable actually is.\n \n IMO, no, Linus wasn’t a dick. He called out a specific attitude and behaviour which Mauro is not supposed to show in his role as maintainer. What about Mauro being a dick because he went in all self-righteous like “this is a bug in pulseaudio”?\n \n If you were a restaurant manager, and a server told a customer that he’s not going to serve beer with steak but only wine because “drinking beer with steak is obviously wrong”, what would you do? Chew them out, of course. It’s way out of line. This isn’t Linus exploding over nothing just to bully someone, that’s a thing he has *never* done.\n \n If you want someone toxic to complain about in the FOSS space pick Lennart Poettering, the kind of guy who replies to “We’d like to be able to disable various features to keep things small” with “why do you hate disabled people they need accessibility”. More generally speaking: Focussing on tone never ends up well. You can be incredibly toxic in the most flowery of idioms. """ +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 11 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701959697 {#1619 : 2023-12-07 15:34:57.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@feddylemmy@lemmy.world" "@barsoap@lemm.ee" "@oatscoop@midwest.social" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1687 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1689 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1691 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1795 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1711 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1611 …} -id: 206639 -bodyTs: "'abl':178 'accept':33 'access':196 'actual':34 'argument':19 'assert':5 'attitud':48 'beer':103,111 'behaviour':29,50 'bug':81 'bulli':141 'call':44 'chew':121 'complain':157 'cours':125 'custom':95 'd':174 'deem':32 'dick':3,42,68 'disabl':180,192 'done':150 'drink':110 'end':204 'explod':136 'featur':182 'floweri':215 'focuss':200 'foss':161 'general':198 'go':100 'guy':169 'hate':191 'hell':12 'idea':24 'idiom':217 'imo':36 'incred':210 'isn':133 'keep':184 'kind':167 'lennart':164 'lift':16 'like':77,175 'line':27,131 'linus':38,135 'lot':14 'maintain':62 'manag':89 'mauro':52,65 'need':195 'never':149,203 'noth':138 'obvious':115 'peopl':193 'pick':163 'poetter':165 'pulseaudio':83 'repli':171 'restaur':88 'righteous':76 'role':60 'self':75 'self-right':74 'serv':102 'server':92 'show':57 'small':186 'someon':142,154 'space':162 'speak':199 'specif':47 'steak':105,113 'suppos':55 'term':8 'thing':146,185 'told':93 'tone':202 'toxic':155,211 'various':181 'want':153 'wasn':39 'way':128 'weasel':7 'well':206 'went':71 'wine':108 'would':118 'wrong':116" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7085819" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701959697 {#1702 : 2023-12-07 15:34:57.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206639 } 4 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1628 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1626 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +body: "Yep this is lemmy not reddit. Switcharoos with actual substance and everyone is way more humble." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 4 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701962246 {#1630 : 2023-12-07 16:17:26.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@feddylemmy@lemmy.world" "@Windex007@lemmy.world" "@interceder270@lemmy.world" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1599 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1625 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1617 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1725 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1722 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1726 …} -id: 206790 -bodyTs: "'actual':9 'everyon':12 'humbl':16 'lemmi':4 'reddit':6 'substanc':10 'switcharoo':7 'way':14 'yep':1" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7087266" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701962246 {#1629 : 2023-12-07 16:17:26.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206790 } 3 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1737 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1734 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +body: """ > and being abusive\n \n There’s it again. What, precisely, is it that makes Linus’ comment “abusive”? Is he gaslighting? Is he attacking Mauro over what he is? All I see is calling out, harshly, what Mauro *did*, behaviour that actually occurred and that is not acceptable and that Mauro *knows* is not acceptable. “We do not break userspace” is the rule #1 of Linux development, Mauro ignored it *and* was a dick about it.\n \n Or do you disagree with the *tone* of the whole thing. Things like “Shut up” instead of “This is not up for discussion”. If so, then please for the love of the gods please shut up. 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Linus actually did it, doesn’t mean that he was an asshole before. Brash, sure, crass, yes, but actual assholes don’t calm down as easily." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 0 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701981074 {#1717 : 2023-12-07 21:31:14.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@jose1324@lemmy.world" "@redhat" "@Synthead@lemmy.world" "@barsoap@lemm.ee" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2465 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2463 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2411 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2422 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2458 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2456 …} -id: 208075 -bodyTs: "'accustom':11 'actual':27,44 'asshol':37,45 'becom':9 'brash':39 'calm':48 'crass':41 'develop':22 'doesn':30 'easili':51 'instead':16 'linus':26 'mean':32 'need':20 'other':25 'project':18 'sure':40 'us':7 'virtu':23 'wish':3 'work':13 'yes':42" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7097925" +editedAt: DateTimeImmutable @1703376112 {#1739 : 2023-12-24 01:01:52.0 +01:00 } +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701981074 {#1741 : 2023-12-07 21:31:14.0 +01:00 } +"title": 208075 } 1 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#2454 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#2455 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1559 …} +body: """ Current-day Linus wouldn’t react much differently. Cut the “shut the fuck up”, the one or other “fuck” (but not all, some need to be there for emphasis), done. It’s the real personal shit, the “should be aborted retroactively” stuff, that he cut out. “Obvious garbage and idiocy” is a technical term, programmers apply it to their own work all the time. Compilers are more technical in their language but we know what they mean.\n \n And was this mail, seen in its total impact, a hardship? He went down hard, yes, and thousands upon thousands of Linux *users* breathed a sigh of relief, seeing that Mauro’s attitude towards userland doesn’t fly.\n \n The hardest-hitting sentence in that mail is actually “You have shown yourself to not be competent in this issue”. Absolutely devastating. Taking context into account it’s the equivalent of telling a professional cook that their ingredients suck, what they did with them sucks, and most of all that the gall which which they claimed that the customer is wrong about their dinner sucking is completely, and utterly, unprofessional.\n \n Of course that’s hard on Mauro. There’s no way to tell someone about such an epic cock-up without being hard. But not going that far, avoiding that hardship for some notion of civility, now that would be right-out cruel. 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If anything, then an idiot (indirectly, by saying “I don’t want to hear that kind of garbage and idiocy from a kernel maintainer again”.\n \n How many of the people complaining about the mail being abusive or whatnot actually read it. 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+body: """ Nah it’s completely fine. I vastly prefer an angry-sounding takedown over a passive aggressive takedown and a takedown Mauro definitely deserved because his code was, in fact, utter shite, *and that as a maintainer*. This isn’t “oh he’s a noob he doesn’t know how the kernel works” type of territory. Also note that this happened *after* he had been told what’s up in a neutral and factual way: Linus, even in his most management by perkele days, never made those things the first reply to anything. So Mauro got his chance to spot that he fucked up and correct his approach, he didn’t, therefore, it has to be said loudly. Simple as that.\n \n Also, no “you should be aborted retroactively” in sight anywhere. Yeah that stuff wasn’t necessary even though everyone with an ounce of social intelligence should readily spot that those insults were always so over the top as to be obviously humorous. """ +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 40 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701954766 {#1438 : 2023-12-07 14:12:46.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@feddylemmy@lemmy.world" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1651 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1652 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1650 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1671 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1568 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1560 …} -id: 206416 -bodyTs: "'abort':127 'aggress':17 'also':57,122 'alway':154 'angri':11 'angry-sound':10 'anyth':93 'anywher':131 'approach':108 'chanc':98 'code':27 'complet':4 'correct':106 'day':84 'definit':23 'deserv':24 'didn':110 'doesn':47 'even':77,138 'everyon':140 'fact':30 'factual':74 'fine':5 'first':90 'fuck':103 'got':96 'happen':61 'humor':163 'insult':152 'intellig':146 'isn':39 'kernel':52 'know':49 'linus':76 'loud':118 'made':86 'maintain':37 'manag':81 'mauro':22,95 'nah':1 'necessari':137 'neutral':72 'never':85 'noob':45 'note':58 'obvious':162 'oh':41 'ounc':143 'passiv':16 'perkel':83 'prefer':8 'readili':148 'repli':91 'retroact':128 'said':117 'shite':32 'sight':130 'simpl':119 'social':145 'sound':12 'spot':100,149 'stuff':134 'takedown':13,18,21 'territori':56 'therefor':112 'thing':88 'though':139 'told':66 'top':158 'type':54 'utter':31 'vast':7 'wasn':135 'way':75 'work':53 'yeah':132" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7083419" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701954766 {#1700 : 2023-12-07 14:12:46.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206416 } 6 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1562 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1566 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1559 …} +body: "This is a message to an @redhat address, as you might notice. Mauro gets paid to work on the kernel and is not a noob who doesn’t know better, either, he’s a maintainer who fucked up basic maintenance." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 15 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701954818 {#1572 : 2023-12-07 14:13:38.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@jose1324@lemmy.world" "@redhat" "@Synthead@lemmy.world" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1548 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1554 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1556 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1555 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1620 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1604 …} -id: 206422 -bodyTs: "'address':8 'basic':39 'better':30 'doesn':27 'either':31 'fuck':37 'get':14 'kernel':20 'know':29 'maintain':35 'mainten':40 'mauro':13 'messag':4 'might':11 'noob':25 'notic':12 'paid':15 'redhat':7 'work':17" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7083443" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701954818 {#1563 : 2023-12-07 14:13:38.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206422 } 5 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1701 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1683 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +body: """ “being a dick” and “assertive” are weasel terms which do a hell a lot of lifting in your argument there. I have no idea where your line for behaviour to be deemed acceptable actually is.\n \n IMO, no, Linus wasn’t a dick. He called out a specific attitude and behaviour which Mauro is not supposed to show in his role as maintainer. What about Mauro being a dick because he went in all self-righteous like “this is a bug in pulseaudio”?\n \n If you were a restaurant manager, and a server told a customer that he’s not going to serve beer with steak but only wine because “drinking beer with steak is obviously wrong”, what would you do? Chew them out, of course. It’s way out of line. This isn’t Linus exploding over nothing just to bully someone, that’s a thing he has *never* done.\n \n If you want someone toxic to complain about in the FOSS space pick Lennart Poettering, the kind of guy who replies to “We’d like to be able to disable various features to keep things small” with “why do you hate disabled people they need accessibility”. More generally speaking: Focussing on tone never ends up well. You can be incredibly toxic in the most flowery of idioms. 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Switcharoos with actual substance and everyone is way more humble." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 4 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701962246 {#1630 : 2023-12-07 16:17:26.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@feddylemmy@lemmy.world" "@Windex007@lemmy.world" "@interceder270@lemmy.world" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1599 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1625 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1617 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1725 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1722 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1726 …} -id: 206790 -bodyTs: "'actual':9 'everyon':12 'humbl':16 'lemmi':4 'reddit':6 'substanc':10 'switcharoo':7 'way':14 'yep':1" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7087266" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701962246 {#1629 : 2023-12-07 16:17:26.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206790 } 3 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1737 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1734 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +body: """ > and being abusive\n \n There’s it again. What, precisely, is it that makes Linus’ comment “abusive”? Is he gaslighting? Is he attacking Mauro over what he is? All I see is calling out, harshly, what Mauro *did*, behaviour that actually occurred and that is not acceptable and that Mauro *knows* is not acceptable. “We do not break userspace” is the rule #1 of Linux development, Mauro ignored it *and* was a dick about it.\n \n Or do you disagree with the *tone* of the whole thing. Things like “Shut up” instead of “This is not up for discussion”. If so, then please for the love of the gods please shut up. """ +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 6 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701968575 {#1736 : 2023-12-07 18:02:55.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@feddylemmy@lemmy.world" "@barsoap@lemm.ee" "@oatscoop@midwest.social" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1732 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1735 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1729 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1719 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1714 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1720 …} -id: 207200 -bodyTs: "'1':62 'abus':3,16 'accept':46,53 'actual':40 'attack':22 'behaviour':38 'break':57 'call':32 'comment':15 'develop':65 'dick':72 'disagre':78 'discuss':97 'gaslight':19 'god':107 'harsh':34 'ignor':67 'instead':90 'know':50 'like':87 'linus':14 'linux':64 'love':104 'make':13 'mauro':23,36,49,66 'occur':41 'pleas':101,108 'precis':9 'rule':61 'see':30 'shut':88,109 'thing':85,86 'tone':81 'userspac':58 'whole':84" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7090782" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701968575 {#1730 : 2023-12-07 18:02:55.0 +01:00 } +"title": 207200 } 2 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1740 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1707 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1559 …} +body: "I just wish for all of us to become more accustomed to working on ourselves instead of projecting the need to develop virtue on others. Linus actually did it, doesn’t mean that he was an asshole before. Brash, sure, crass, yes, but actual assholes don’t calm down as easily." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 0 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701981074 {#1717 : 2023-12-07 21:31:14.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@jose1324@lemmy.world" "@redhat" "@Synthead@lemmy.world" "@barsoap@lemm.ee" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2465 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2463 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2411 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2422 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2458 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2456 …} -id: 208075 -bodyTs: "'accustom':11 'actual':27,44 'asshol':37,45 'becom':9 'brash':39 'calm':48 'crass':41 'develop':22 'doesn':30 'easili':51 'instead':16 'linus':26 'mean':32 'need':20 'other':25 'project':18 'sure':40 'us':7 'virtu':23 'wish':3 'work':13 'yes':42" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7097925" +editedAt: DateTimeImmutable @1703376112 {#1739 : 2023-12-24 01:01:52.0 +01:00 } +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701981074 {#1741 : 2023-12-07 21:31:14.0 +01:00 } +"title": 208075 } 1 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#2454 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#2455 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1559 …} +body: """ Current-day Linus wouldn’t react much differently. Cut the “shut the fuck up”, the one or other “fuck” (but not all, some need to be there for emphasis), done. It’s the real personal shit, the “should be aborted retroactively” stuff, that he cut out. “Obvious garbage and idiocy” is a technical term, programmers apply it to their own work all the time. Compilers are more technical in their language but we know what they mean.\n \n And was this mail, seen in its total impact, a hardship? He went down hard, yes, and thousands upon thousands of Linux *users* breathed a sigh of relief, seeing that Mauro’s attitude towards userland doesn’t fly.\n \n The hardest-hitting sentence in that mail is actually “You have shown yourself to not be competent in this issue”. Absolutely devastating. Taking context into account it’s the equivalent of telling a professional cook that their ingredients suck, what they did with them sucks, and most of all that the gall which which they claimed that the customer is wrong about their dinner sucking is completely, and utterly, unprofessional.\n \n Of course that’s hard on Mauro. There’s no way to tell someone about such an epic cock-up without being hard. But not going that far, avoiding that hardship for some notion of civility, now that would be right-out cruel. 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If anything, then an idiot (indirectly, by saying “I don’t want to hear that kind of garbage and idiocy from a kernel maintainer again”.\n \n How many of the people complaining about the mail being abusive or whatnot actually read it. 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Follow the site-wide rules and [code of conduct](https://join-lemmy.org/docs/code_of_conduct.html)2. Be civil 3. Post Linux-related content 4. No recent reposts Please report posts and comments that break these rules! 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+body: """ Nah it’s completely fine. I vastly prefer an angry-sounding takedown over a passive aggressive takedown and a takedown Mauro definitely deserved because his code was, in fact, utter shite, *and that as a maintainer*. This isn’t “oh he’s a noob he doesn’t know how the kernel works” type of territory. Also note that this happened *after* he had been told what’s up in a neutral and factual way: Linus, even in his most management by perkele days, never made those things the first reply to anything. So Mauro got his chance to spot that he fucked up and correct his approach, he didn’t, therefore, it has to be said loudly. Simple as that.\n \n Also, no “you should be aborted retroactively” in sight anywhere. Yeah that stuff wasn’t necessary even though everyone with an ounce of social intelligence should readily spot that those insults were always so over the top as to be obviously humorous. """ +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 40 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701954766 {#1438 : 2023-12-07 14:12:46.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@feddylemmy@lemmy.world" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1651 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1652 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1650 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1671 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1568 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1560 …} -id: 206416 -bodyTs: "'abort':127 'aggress':17 'also':57,122 'alway':154 'angri':11 'angry-sound':10 'anyth':93 'anywher':131 'approach':108 'chanc':98 'code':27 'complet':4 'correct':106 'day':84 'definit':23 'deserv':24 'didn':110 'doesn':47 'even':77,138 'everyon':140 'fact':30 'factual':74 'fine':5 'first':90 'fuck':103 'got':96 'happen':61 'humor':163 'insult':152 'intellig':146 'isn':39 'kernel':52 'know':49 'linus':76 'loud':118 'made':86 'maintain':37 'manag':81 'mauro':22,95 'nah':1 'necessari':137 'neutral':72 'never':85 'noob':45 'note':58 'obvious':162 'oh':41 'ounc':143 'passiv':16 'perkel':83 'prefer':8 'readili':148 'repli':91 'retroact':128 'said':117 'shite':32 'sight':130 'simpl':119 'social':145 'sound':12 'spot':100,149 'stuff':134 'takedown':13,18,21 'territori':56 'therefor':112 'thing':88 'though':139 'told':66 'top':158 'type':54 'utter':31 'vast':7 'wasn':135 'way':75 'work':53 'yeah':132" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7083419" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701954766 {#1700 : 2023-12-07 14:12:46.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206416 } 6 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1562 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1566 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1559 …} +body: "This is a message to an @redhat address, as you might notice. Mauro gets paid to work on the kernel and is not a noob who doesn’t know better, either, he’s a maintainer who fucked up basic maintenance." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 15 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701954818 {#1572 : 2023-12-07 14:13:38.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@jose1324@lemmy.world" "@redhat" "@Synthead@lemmy.world" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1548 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1554 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1556 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1555 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1620 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1604 …} -id: 206422 -bodyTs: "'address':8 'basic':39 'better':30 'doesn':27 'either':31 'fuck':37 'get':14 'kernel':20 'know':29 'maintain':35 'mainten':40 'mauro':13 'messag':4 'might':11 'noob':25 'notic':12 'paid':15 'redhat':7 'work':17" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7083443" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701954818 {#1563 : 2023-12-07 14:13:38.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206422 } 5 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1701 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1683 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +body: """ “being a dick” and “assertive” are weasel terms which do a hell a lot of lifting in your argument there. I have no idea where your line for behaviour to be deemed acceptable actually is.\n \n IMO, no, Linus wasn’t a dick. He called out a specific attitude and behaviour which Mauro is not supposed to show in his role as maintainer. What about Mauro being a dick because he went in all self-righteous like “this is a bug in pulseaudio”?\n \n If you were a restaurant manager, and a server told a customer that he’s not going to serve beer with steak but only wine because “drinking beer with steak is obviously wrong”, what would you do? Chew them out, of course. It’s way out of line. This isn’t Linus exploding over nothing just to bully someone, that’s a thing he has *never* done.\n \n If you want someone toxic to complain about in the FOSS space pick Lennart Poettering, the kind of guy who replies to “We’d like to be able to disable various features to keep things small” with “why do you hate disabled people they need accessibility”. More generally speaking: Focussing on tone never ends up well. You can be incredibly toxic in the most flowery of idioms. 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Switcharoos with actual substance and everyone is way more humble." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 4 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701962246 {#1630 : 2023-12-07 16:17:26.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@feddylemmy@lemmy.world" "@Windex007@lemmy.world" "@interceder270@lemmy.world" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1599 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1625 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1617 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1725 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1722 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1726 …} -id: 206790 -bodyTs: "'actual':9 'everyon':12 'humbl':16 'lemmi':4 'reddit':6 'substanc':10 'switcharoo':7 'way':14 'yep':1" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7087266" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701962246 {#1629 : 2023-12-07 16:17:26.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206790 } 3 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1737 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1734 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +body: """ > and being abusive\n \n There’s it again. What, precisely, is it that makes Linus’ comment “abusive”? Is he gaslighting? Is he attacking Mauro over what he is? All I see is calling out, harshly, what Mauro *did*, behaviour that actually occurred and that is not acceptable and that Mauro *knows* is not acceptable. “We do not break userspace” is the rule #1 of Linux development, Mauro ignored it *and* was a dick about it.\n \n Or do you disagree with the *tone* of the whole thing. Things like “Shut up” instead of “This is not up for discussion”. If so, then please for the love of the gods please shut up. """ +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 6 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701968575 {#1736 : 2023-12-07 18:02:55.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@feddylemmy@lemmy.world" "@barsoap@lemm.ee" "@oatscoop@midwest.social" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1732 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1735 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1729 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1719 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1714 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1720 …} -id: 207200 -bodyTs: "'1':62 'abus':3,16 'accept':46,53 'actual':40 'attack':22 'behaviour':38 'break':57 'call':32 'comment':15 'develop':65 'dick':72 'disagre':78 'discuss':97 'gaslight':19 'god':107 'harsh':34 'ignor':67 'instead':90 'know':50 'like':87 'linus':14 'linux':64 'love':104 'make':13 'mauro':23,36,49,66 'occur':41 'pleas':101,108 'precis':9 'rule':61 'see':30 'shut':88,109 'thing':85,86 'tone':81 'userspac':58 'whole':84" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7090782" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701968575 {#1730 : 2023-12-07 18:02:55.0 +01:00 } +"title": 207200 } 2 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1740 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1707 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1559 …} +body: "I just wish for all of us to become more accustomed to working on ourselves instead of projecting the need to develop virtue on others. Linus actually did it, doesn’t mean that he was an asshole before. Brash, sure, crass, yes, but actual assholes don’t calm down as easily." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 0 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701981074 {#1717 : 2023-12-07 21:31:14.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@jose1324@lemmy.world" "@redhat" "@Synthead@lemmy.world" "@barsoap@lemm.ee" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2465 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2463 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2411 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2422 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2458 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2456 …} -id: 208075 -bodyTs: "'accustom':11 'actual':27,44 'asshol':37,45 'becom':9 'brash':39 'calm':48 'crass':41 'develop':22 'doesn':30 'easili':51 'instead':16 'linus':26 'mean':32 'need':20 'other':25 'project':18 'sure':40 'us':7 'virtu':23 'wish':3 'work':13 'yes':42" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7097925" +editedAt: DateTimeImmutable @1703376112 {#1739 : 2023-12-24 01:01:52.0 +01:00 } +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701981074 {#1741 : 2023-12-07 21:31:14.0 +01:00 } +"title": 208075 } 1 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#2454 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#2455 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1559 …} +body: """ Current-day Linus wouldn’t react much differently. Cut the “shut the fuck up”, the one or other “fuck” (but not all, some need to be there for emphasis), done. It’s the real personal shit, the “should be aborted retroactively” stuff, that he cut out. “Obvious garbage and idiocy” is a technical term, programmers apply it to their own work all the time. Compilers are more technical in their language but we know what they mean.\n \n And was this mail, seen in its total impact, a hardship? He went down hard, yes, and thousands upon thousands of Linux *users* breathed a sigh of relief, seeing that Mauro’s attitude towards userland doesn’t fly.\n \n The hardest-hitting sentence in that mail is actually “You have shown yourself to not be competent in this issue”. Absolutely devastating. Taking context into account it’s the equivalent of telling a professional cook that their ingredients suck, what they did with them sucks, and most of all that the gall which which they claimed that the customer is wrong about their dinner sucking is completely, and utterly, unprofessional.\n \n Of course that’s hard on Mauro. There’s no way to tell someone about such an epic cock-up without being hard. But not going that far, avoiding that hardship for some notion of civility, now that would be right-out cruel. 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If anything, then an idiot (indirectly, by saying “I don’t want to hear that kind of garbage and idiocy from a kernel maintainer again”.\n \n How many of the people complaining about the mail being abusive or whatnot actually read it. 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I vastly prefer an angry-sounding takedown over a passive aggressive takedown and a takedown Mauro definitely deserved because his code was, in fact, utter shite, *and that as a maintainer*. This isn’t “oh he’s a noob he doesn’t know how the kernel works” type of territory. Also note that this happened *after* he had been told what’s up in a neutral and factual way: Linus, even in his most management by perkele days, never made those things the first reply to anything. So Mauro got his chance to spot that he fucked up and correct his approach, he didn’t, therefore, it has to be said loudly. Simple as that.\n \n Also, no “you should be aborted retroactively” in sight anywhere. Yeah that stuff wasn’t necessary even though everyone with an ounce of social intelligence should readily spot that those insults were always so over the top as to be obviously humorous. 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Mauro gets paid to work on the kernel and is not a noob who doesn’t know better, either, he’s a maintainer who fucked up basic maintenance." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 15 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701954818 {#1572 : 2023-12-07 14:13:38.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@jose1324@lemmy.world" "@redhat" "@Synthead@lemmy.world" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1548 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1554 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1556 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1555 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1620 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1604 …} -id: 206422 -bodyTs: "'address':8 'basic':39 'better':30 'doesn':27 'either':31 'fuck':37 'get':14 'kernel':20 'know':29 'maintain':35 'mainten':40 'mauro':13 'messag':4 'might':11 'noob':25 'notic':12 'paid':15 'redhat':7 'work':17" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7083443" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701954818 {#1563 : 2023-12-07 14:13:38.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206422 } 5 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1701 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1683 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +body: """ “being a dick” and “assertive” are weasel terms which do a hell a lot of lifting in your argument there. I have no idea where your line for behaviour to be deemed acceptable actually is.\n \n IMO, no, Linus wasn’t a dick. He called out a specific attitude and behaviour which Mauro is not supposed to show in his role as maintainer. What about Mauro being a dick because he went in all self-righteous like “this is a bug in pulseaudio”?\n \n If you were a restaurant manager, and a server told a customer that he’s not going to serve beer with steak but only wine because “drinking beer with steak is obviously wrong”, what would you do? Chew them out, of course. It’s way out of line. This isn’t Linus exploding over nothing just to bully someone, that’s a thing he has *never* done.\n \n If you want someone toxic to complain about in the FOSS space pick Lennart Poettering, the kind of guy who replies to “We’d like to be able to disable various features to keep things small” with “why do you hate disabled people they need accessibility”. More generally speaking: Focussing on tone never ends up well. You can be incredibly toxic in the most flowery of idioms. 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Switcharoos with actual substance and everyone is way more humble." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 4 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701962246 {#1630 : 2023-12-07 16:17:26.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@feddylemmy@lemmy.world" "@Windex007@lemmy.world" "@interceder270@lemmy.world" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1599 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1625 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1617 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1725 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1722 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1726 …} -id: 206790 -bodyTs: "'actual':9 'everyon':12 'humbl':16 'lemmi':4 'reddit':6 'substanc':10 'switcharoo':7 'way':14 'yep':1" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7087266" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701962246 {#1629 : 2023-12-07 16:17:26.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206790 } 3 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1737 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1734 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +body: """ > and being abusive\n \n There’s it again. What, precisely, is it that makes Linus’ comment “abusive”? Is he gaslighting? Is he attacking Mauro over what he is? All I see is calling out, harshly, what Mauro *did*, behaviour that actually occurred and that is not acceptable and that Mauro *knows* is not acceptable. “We do not break userspace” is the rule #1 of Linux development, Mauro ignored it *and* was a dick about it.\n \n Or do you disagree with the *tone* of the whole thing. Things like “Shut up” instead of “This is not up for discussion”. If so, then please for the love of the gods please shut up. 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Linus actually did it, doesn’t mean that he was an asshole before. Brash, sure, crass, yes, but actual assholes don’t calm down as easily." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 0 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701981074 {#1717 : 2023-12-07 21:31:14.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@jose1324@lemmy.world" "@redhat" "@Synthead@lemmy.world" "@barsoap@lemm.ee" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2465 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2463 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2411 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2422 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2458 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2456 …} -id: 208075 -bodyTs: "'accustom':11 'actual':27,44 'asshol':37,45 'becom':9 'brash':39 'calm':48 'crass':41 'develop':22 'doesn':30 'easili':51 'instead':16 'linus':26 'mean':32 'need':20 'other':25 'project':18 'sure':40 'us':7 'virtu':23 'wish':3 'work':13 'yes':42" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7097925" +editedAt: DateTimeImmutable @1703376112 {#1739 : 2023-12-24 01:01:52.0 +01:00 } +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701981074 {#1741 : 2023-12-07 21:31:14.0 +01:00 } +"title": 208075 } 1 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#2454 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#2455 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1559 …} +body: """ Current-day Linus wouldn’t react much differently. Cut the “shut the fuck up”, the one or other “fuck” (but not all, some need to be there for emphasis), done. It’s the real personal shit, the “should be aborted retroactively” stuff, that he cut out. “Obvious garbage and idiocy” is a technical term, programmers apply it to their own work all the time. Compilers are more technical in their language but we know what they mean.\n \n And was this mail, seen in its total impact, a hardship? He went down hard, yes, and thousands upon thousands of Linux *users* breathed a sigh of relief, seeing that Mauro’s attitude towards userland doesn’t fly.\n \n The hardest-hitting sentence in that mail is actually “You have shown yourself to not be competent in this issue”. Absolutely devastating. Taking context into account it’s the equivalent of telling a professional cook that their ingredients suck, what they did with them sucks, and most of all that the gall which which they claimed that the customer is wrong about their dinner sucking is completely, and utterly, unprofessional.\n \n Of course that’s hard on Mauro. There’s no way to tell someone about such an epic cock-up without being hard. But not going that far, avoiding that hardship for some notion of civility, now that would be right-out cruel. 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If anything, then an idiot (indirectly, by saying “I don’t want to hear that kind of garbage and idiocy from a kernel maintainer again”.\n \n How many of the people complaining about the mail being abusive or whatnot actually read it. 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+body: """ Nah it’s completely fine. I vastly prefer an angry-sounding takedown over a passive aggressive takedown and a takedown Mauro definitely deserved because his code was, in fact, utter shite, *and that as a maintainer*. This isn’t “oh he’s a noob he doesn’t know how the kernel works” type of territory. Also note that this happened *after* he had been told what’s up in a neutral and factual way: Linus, even in his most management by perkele days, never made those things the first reply to anything. So Mauro got his chance to spot that he fucked up and correct his approach, he didn’t, therefore, it has to be said loudly. Simple as that.\n \n Also, no “you should be aborted retroactively” in sight anywhere. Yeah that stuff wasn’t necessary even though everyone with an ounce of social intelligence should readily spot that those insults were always so over the top as to be obviously humorous. """ +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 40 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701954766 {#1438 : 2023-12-07 14:12:46.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@feddylemmy@lemmy.world" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1651 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1652 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1650 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1671 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1568 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1560 …} -id: 206416 -bodyTs: "'abort':127 'aggress':17 'also':57,122 'alway':154 'angri':11 'angry-sound':10 'anyth':93 'anywher':131 'approach':108 'chanc':98 'code':27 'complet':4 'correct':106 'day':84 'definit':23 'deserv':24 'didn':110 'doesn':47 'even':77,138 'everyon':140 'fact':30 'factual':74 'fine':5 'first':90 'fuck':103 'got':96 'happen':61 'humor':163 'insult':152 'intellig':146 'isn':39 'kernel':52 'know':49 'linus':76 'loud':118 'made':86 'maintain':37 'manag':81 'mauro':22,95 'nah':1 'necessari':137 'neutral':72 'never':85 'noob':45 'note':58 'obvious':162 'oh':41 'ounc':143 'passiv':16 'perkel':83 'prefer':8 'readili':148 'repli':91 'retroact':128 'said':117 'shite':32 'sight':130 'simpl':119 'social':145 'sound':12 'spot':100,149 'stuff':134 'takedown':13,18,21 'territori':56 'therefor':112 'thing':88 'though':139 'told':66 'top':158 'type':54 'utter':31 'vast':7 'wasn':135 'way':75 'work':53 'yeah':132" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7083419" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701954766 {#1700 : 2023-12-07 14:12:46.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206416 } 6 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1562 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1566 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1559 …} +body: "This is a message to an @redhat address, as you might notice. Mauro gets paid to work on the kernel and is not a noob who doesn’t know better, either, he’s a maintainer who fucked up basic maintenance." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 15 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701954818 {#1572 : 2023-12-07 14:13:38.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@jose1324@lemmy.world" "@redhat" "@Synthead@lemmy.world" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1548 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1554 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1556 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1555 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1620 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1604 …} -id: 206422 -bodyTs: "'address':8 'basic':39 'better':30 'doesn':27 'either':31 'fuck':37 'get':14 'kernel':20 'know':29 'maintain':35 'mainten':40 'mauro':13 'messag':4 'might':11 'noob':25 'notic':12 'paid':15 'redhat':7 'work':17" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7083443" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701954818 {#1563 : 2023-12-07 14:13:38.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206422 } 5 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1701 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1683 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +body: """ “being a dick” and “assertive” are weasel terms which do a hell a lot of lifting in your argument there. I have no idea where your line for behaviour to be deemed acceptable actually is.\n \n IMO, no, Linus wasn’t a dick. He called out a specific attitude and behaviour which Mauro is not supposed to show in his role as maintainer. What about Mauro being a dick because he went in all self-righteous like “this is a bug in pulseaudio”?\n \n If you were a restaurant manager, and a server told a customer that he’s not going to serve beer with steak but only wine because “drinking beer with steak is obviously wrong”, what would you do? Chew them out, of course. It’s way out of line. This isn’t Linus exploding over nothing just to bully someone, that’s a thing he has *never* done.\n \n If you want someone toxic to complain about in the FOSS space pick Lennart Poettering, the kind of guy who replies to “We’d like to be able to disable various features to keep things small” with “why do you hate disabled people they need accessibility”. More generally speaking: Focussing on tone never ends up well. You can be incredibly toxic in the most flowery of idioms. """ +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 11 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701959697 {#1619 : 2023-12-07 15:34:57.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@feddylemmy@lemmy.world" "@barsoap@lemm.ee" "@oatscoop@midwest.social" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1687 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1689 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1691 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1795 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1711 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1611 …} -id: 206639 -bodyTs: "'abl':178 'accept':33 'access':196 'actual':34 'argument':19 'assert':5 'attitud':48 'beer':103,111 'behaviour':29,50 'bug':81 'bulli':141 'call':44 'chew':121 'complain':157 'cours':125 'custom':95 'd':174 'deem':32 'dick':3,42,68 'disabl':180,192 'done':150 'drink':110 'end':204 'explod':136 'featur':182 'floweri':215 'focuss':200 'foss':161 'general':198 'go':100 'guy':169 'hate':191 'hell':12 'idea':24 'idiom':217 'imo':36 'incred':210 'isn':133 'keep':184 'kind':167 'lennart':164 'lift':16 'like':77,175 'line':27,131 'linus':38,135 'lot':14 'maintain':62 'manag':89 'mauro':52,65 'need':195 'never':149,203 'noth':138 'obvious':115 'peopl':193 'pick':163 'poetter':165 'pulseaudio':83 'repli':171 'restaur':88 'righteous':76 'role':60 'self':75 'self-right':74 'serv':102 'server':92 'show':57 'small':186 'someon':142,154 'space':162 'speak':199 'specif':47 'steak':105,113 'suppos':55 'term':8 'thing':146,185 'told':93 'tone':202 'toxic':155,211 'various':181 'want':153 'wasn':39 'way':128 'weasel':7 'well':206 'went':71 'wine':108 'would':118 'wrong':116" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7085819" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701959697 {#1702 : 2023-12-07 15:34:57.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206639 } 4 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1628 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1626 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +body: "Yep this is lemmy not reddit. Switcharoos with actual substance and everyone is way more humble." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 4 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701962246 {#1630 : 2023-12-07 16:17:26.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@feddylemmy@lemmy.world" "@Windex007@lemmy.world" "@interceder270@lemmy.world" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1599 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1625 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1617 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1725 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1722 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1726 …} -id: 206790 -bodyTs: "'actual':9 'everyon':12 'humbl':16 'lemmi':4 'reddit':6 'substanc':10 'switcharoo':7 'way':14 'yep':1" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7087266" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701962246 {#1629 : 2023-12-07 16:17:26.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206790 } 3 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1737 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1734 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +body: """ > and being abusive\n \n There’s it again. What, precisely, is it that makes Linus’ comment “abusive”? Is he gaslighting? Is he attacking Mauro over what he is? All I see is calling out, harshly, what Mauro *did*, behaviour that actually occurred and that is not acceptable and that Mauro *knows* is not acceptable. “We do not break userspace” is the rule #1 of Linux development, Mauro ignored it *and* was a dick about it.\n \n Or do you disagree with the *tone* of the whole thing. Things like “Shut up” instead of “This is not up for discussion”. If so, then please for the love of the gods please shut up. 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Linus actually did it, doesn’t mean that he was an asshole before. Brash, sure, crass, yes, but actual assholes don’t calm down as easily." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 0 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701981074 {#1717 : 2023-12-07 21:31:14.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@jose1324@lemmy.world" "@redhat" "@Synthead@lemmy.world" "@barsoap@lemm.ee" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2465 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2463 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2411 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2422 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2458 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2456 …} -id: 208075 -bodyTs: "'accustom':11 'actual':27,44 'asshol':37,45 'becom':9 'brash':39 'calm':48 'crass':41 'develop':22 'doesn':30 'easili':51 'instead':16 'linus':26 'mean':32 'need':20 'other':25 'project':18 'sure':40 'us':7 'virtu':23 'wish':3 'work':13 'yes':42" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7097925" +editedAt: DateTimeImmutable @1703376112 {#1739 : 2023-12-24 01:01:52.0 +01:00 } +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701981074 {#1741 : 2023-12-07 21:31:14.0 +01:00 } +"title": 208075 } 1 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#2454 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#2455 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1559 …} +body: """ Current-day Linus wouldn’t react much differently. Cut the “shut the fuck up”, the one or other “fuck” (but not all, some need to be there for emphasis), done. It’s the real personal shit, the “should be aborted retroactively” stuff, that he cut out. “Obvious garbage and idiocy” is a technical term, programmers apply it to their own work all the time. Compilers are more technical in their language but we know what they mean.\n \n And was this mail, seen in its total impact, a hardship? He went down hard, yes, and thousands upon thousands of Linux *users* breathed a sigh of relief, seeing that Mauro’s attitude towards userland doesn’t fly.\n \n The hardest-hitting sentence in that mail is actually “You have shown yourself to not be competent in this issue”. Absolutely devastating. Taking context into account it’s the equivalent of telling a professional cook that their ingredients suck, what they did with them sucks, and most of all that the gall which which they claimed that the customer is wrong about their dinner sucking is completely, and utterly, unprofessional.\n \n Of course that’s hard on Mauro. There’s no way to tell someone about such an epic cock-up without being hard. But not going that far, avoiding that hardship for some notion of civility, now that would be right-out cruel. 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If anything, then an idiot (indirectly, by saying “I don’t want to hear that kind of garbage and idiocy from a kernel maintainer again”.\n \n How many of the people complaining about the mail being abusive or whatnot actually read it. 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Follow the site-wide rules and [code of conduct](https://join-lemmy.org/docs/code_of_conduct.html)2. Be civil 3. Post Linux-related content 4. No recent reposts Please report posts and comments that break these rules! 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+body: """ Nah it’s completely fine. I vastly prefer an angry-sounding takedown over a passive aggressive takedown and a takedown Mauro definitely deserved because his code was, in fact, utter shite, *and that as a maintainer*. This isn’t “oh he’s a noob he doesn’t know how the kernel works” type of territory. Also note that this happened *after* he had been told what’s up in a neutral and factual way: Linus, even in his most management by perkele days, never made those things the first reply to anything. So Mauro got his chance to spot that he fucked up and correct his approach, he didn’t, therefore, it has to be said loudly. Simple as that.\n \n Also, no “you should be aborted retroactively” in sight anywhere. Yeah that stuff wasn’t necessary even though everyone with an ounce of social intelligence should readily spot that those insults were always so over the top as to be obviously humorous. 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Mauro gets paid to work on the kernel and is not a noob who doesn’t know better, either, he’s a maintainer who fucked up basic maintenance." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 15 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701954818 {#1572 : 2023-12-07 14:13:38.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@jose1324@lemmy.world" "@redhat" "@Synthead@lemmy.world" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1548 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1554 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1556 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1555 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1620 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1604 …} -id: 206422 -bodyTs: "'address':8 'basic':39 'better':30 'doesn':27 'either':31 'fuck':37 'get':14 'kernel':20 'know':29 'maintain':35 'mainten':40 'mauro':13 'messag':4 'might':11 'noob':25 'notic':12 'paid':15 'redhat':7 'work':17" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7083443" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701954818 {#1563 : 2023-12-07 14:13:38.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206422 } 5 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1701 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1683 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +body: """ “being a dick” and “assertive” are weasel terms which do a hell a lot of lifting in your argument there. I have no idea where your line for behaviour to be deemed acceptable actually is.\n \n IMO, no, Linus wasn’t a dick. He called out a specific attitude and behaviour which Mauro is not supposed to show in his role as maintainer. What about Mauro being a dick because he went in all self-righteous like “this is a bug in pulseaudio”?\n \n If you were a restaurant manager, and a server told a customer that he’s not going to serve beer with steak but only wine because “drinking beer with steak is obviously wrong”, what would you do? Chew them out, of course. It’s way out of line. This isn’t Linus exploding over nothing just to bully someone, that’s a thing he has *never* done.\n \n If you want someone toxic to complain about in the FOSS space pick Lennart Poettering, the kind of guy who replies to “We’d like to be able to disable various features to keep things small” with “why do you hate disabled people they need accessibility”. More generally speaking: Focussing on tone never ends up well. You can be incredibly toxic in the most flowery of idioms. 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Switcharoos with actual substance and everyone is way more humble." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 4 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701962246 {#1630 : 2023-12-07 16:17:26.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@feddylemmy@lemmy.world" "@Windex007@lemmy.world" "@interceder270@lemmy.world" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1599 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1625 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1617 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1725 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1722 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1726 …} -id: 206790 -bodyTs: "'actual':9 'everyon':12 'humbl':16 'lemmi':4 'reddit':6 'substanc':10 'switcharoo':7 'way':14 'yep':1" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7087266" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701962246 {#1629 : 2023-12-07 16:17:26.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206790 } 3 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1737 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1734 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +body: """ > and being abusive\n \n There’s it again. What, precisely, is it that makes Linus’ comment “abusive”? Is he gaslighting? Is he attacking Mauro over what he is? All I see is calling out, harshly, what Mauro *did*, behaviour that actually occurred and that is not acceptable and that Mauro *knows* is not acceptable. “We do not break userspace” is the rule #1 of Linux development, Mauro ignored it *and* was a dick about it.\n \n Or do you disagree with the *tone* of the whole thing. Things like “Shut up” instead of “This is not up for discussion”. If so, then please for the love of the gods please shut up. 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Linus actually did it, doesn’t mean that he was an asshole before. Brash, sure, crass, yes, but actual assholes don’t calm down as easily." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 0 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701981074 {#1717 : 2023-12-07 21:31:14.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@jose1324@lemmy.world" "@redhat" "@Synthead@lemmy.world" "@barsoap@lemm.ee" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2465 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2463 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2411 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2422 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2458 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2456 …} -id: 208075 -bodyTs: "'accustom':11 'actual':27,44 'asshol':37,45 'becom':9 'brash':39 'calm':48 'crass':41 'develop':22 'doesn':30 'easili':51 'instead':16 'linus':26 'mean':32 'need':20 'other':25 'project':18 'sure':40 'us':7 'virtu':23 'wish':3 'work':13 'yes':42" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7097925" +editedAt: DateTimeImmutable @1703376112 {#1739 : 2023-12-24 01:01:52.0 +01:00 } +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701981074 {#1741 : 2023-12-07 21:31:14.0 +01:00 } +"title": 208075 } 1 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#2454 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#2455 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1559 …} +body: """ Current-day Linus wouldn’t react much differently. Cut the “shut the fuck up”, the one or other “fuck” (but not all, some need to be there for emphasis), done. It’s the real personal shit, the “should be aborted retroactively” stuff, that he cut out. “Obvious garbage and idiocy” is a technical term, programmers apply it to their own work all the time. Compilers are more technical in their language but we know what they mean.\n \n And was this mail, seen in its total impact, a hardship? He went down hard, yes, and thousands upon thousands of Linux *users* breathed a sigh of relief, seeing that Mauro’s attitude towards userland doesn’t fly.\n \n The hardest-hitting sentence in that mail is actually “You have shown yourself to not be competent in this issue”. Absolutely devastating. Taking context into account it’s the equivalent of telling a professional cook that their ingredients suck, what they did with them sucks, and most of all that the gall which which they claimed that the customer is wrong about their dinner sucking is completely, and utterly, unprofessional.\n \n Of course that’s hard on Mauro. There’s no way to tell someone about such an epic cock-up without being hard. But not going that far, avoiding that hardship for some notion of civility, now that would be right-out cruel. 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If anything, then an idiot (indirectly, by saying “I don’t want to hear that kind of garbage and idiocy from a kernel maintainer again”.\n \n How many of the people complaining about the mail being abusive or whatnot actually read it. 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[LemmyMemes](https://lemmy.world/c/memes@lemmy.world): Memes * [LemmyShitpost](https://lemmy.world/c/lemmyshitpost): Anything and everything goes. * [RISA](https://startrek.website/c/risa): Star Trek memes and shitposts\n \n Community rules1. Follow the site-wide rules and [code of conduct](https://join-lemmy.org/docs/code_of_conduct.html)2. Be civil 3. Post Linux-related content 4. No recent reposts Please report posts and comments that break these rules! 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Mauro gets paid to work on the kernel and is not a noob who doesn’t know better, either, he’s a maintainer who fucked up basic maintenance." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 15 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701954818 {#1572 : 2023-12-07 14:13:38.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@jose1324@lemmy.world" "@redhat" "@Synthead@lemmy.world" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1548 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1554 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1556 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1555 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1620 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1604 …} -id: 206422 -bodyTs: "'address':8 'basic':39 'better':30 'doesn':27 'either':31 'fuck':37 'get':14 'kernel':20 'know':29 'maintain':35 'mainten':40 'mauro':13 'messag':4 'might':11 'noob':25 'notic':12 'paid':15 'redhat':7 'work':17" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7083443" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701954818 {#1563 : 2023-12-07 14:13:38.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206422 } 5 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1701 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1683 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +body: """ “being a dick” and “assertive” are weasel terms which do a hell a lot of lifting in your argument there. I have no idea where your line for behaviour to be deemed acceptable actually is.\n \n IMO, no, Linus wasn’t a dick. He called out a specific attitude and behaviour which Mauro is not supposed to show in his role as maintainer. What about Mauro being a dick because he went in all self-righteous like “this is a bug in pulseaudio”?\n \n If you were a restaurant manager, and a server told a customer that he’s not going to serve beer with steak but only wine because “drinking beer with steak is obviously wrong”, what would you do? Chew them out, of course. It’s way out of line. This isn’t Linus exploding over nothing just to bully someone, that’s a thing he has *never* done.\n \n If you want someone toxic to complain about in the FOSS space pick Lennart Poettering, the kind of guy who replies to “We’d like to be able to disable various features to keep things small” with “why do you hate disabled people they need accessibility”. More generally speaking: Focussing on tone never ends up well. You can be incredibly toxic in the most flowery of idioms. 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Switcharoos with actual substance and everyone is way more humble." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 4 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701962246 {#1630 : 2023-12-07 16:17:26.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@feddylemmy@lemmy.world" "@Windex007@lemmy.world" "@interceder270@lemmy.world" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1599 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1625 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1617 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1725 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1722 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1726 …} -id: 206790 -bodyTs: "'actual':9 'everyon':12 'humbl':16 'lemmi':4 'reddit':6 'substanc':10 'switcharoo':7 'way':14 'yep':1" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7087266" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701962246 {#1629 : 2023-12-07 16:17:26.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206790 } 3 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1737 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1734 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +body: """ > and being abusive\n \n There’s it again. What, precisely, is it that makes Linus’ comment “abusive”? Is he gaslighting? Is he attacking Mauro over what he is? All I see is calling out, harshly, what Mauro *did*, behaviour that actually occurred and that is not acceptable and that Mauro *knows* is not acceptable. “We do not break userspace” is the rule #1 of Linux development, Mauro ignored it *and* was a dick about it.\n \n Or do you disagree with the *tone* of the whole thing. Things like “Shut up” instead of “This is not up for discussion”. If so, then please for the love of the gods please shut up. """ +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 6 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701968575 {#1736 : 2023-12-07 18:02:55.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@feddylemmy@lemmy.world" "@barsoap@lemm.ee" "@oatscoop@midwest.social" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1732 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1735 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1729 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1719 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1714 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1720 …} -id: 207200 -bodyTs: "'1':62 'abus':3,16 'accept':46,53 'actual':40 'attack':22 'behaviour':38 'break':57 'call':32 'comment':15 'develop':65 'dick':72 'disagre':78 'discuss':97 'gaslight':19 'god':107 'harsh':34 'ignor':67 'instead':90 'know':50 'like':87 'linus':14 'linux':64 'love':104 'make':13 'mauro':23,36,49,66 'occur':41 'pleas':101,108 'precis':9 'rule':61 'see':30 'shut':88,109 'thing':85,86 'tone':81 'userspac':58 'whole':84" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7090782" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701968575 {#1730 : 2023-12-07 18:02:55.0 +01:00 } +"title": 207200 } 2 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1740 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1707 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1559 …} +body: "I just wish for all of us to become more accustomed to working on ourselves instead of projecting the need to develop virtue on others. Linus actually did it, doesn’t mean that he was an asshole before. Brash, sure, crass, yes, but actual assholes don’t calm down as easily." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 0 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701981074 {#1717 : 2023-12-07 21:31:14.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@jose1324@lemmy.world" "@redhat" "@Synthead@lemmy.world" "@barsoap@lemm.ee" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2465 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2463 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2411 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2422 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2458 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2456 …} -id: 208075 -bodyTs: "'accustom':11 'actual':27,44 'asshol':37,45 'becom':9 'brash':39 'calm':48 'crass':41 'develop':22 'doesn':30 'easili':51 'instead':16 'linus':26 'mean':32 'need':20 'other':25 'project':18 'sure':40 'us':7 'virtu':23 'wish':3 'work':13 'yes':42" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7097925" +editedAt: DateTimeImmutable @1703376112 {#1739 : 2023-12-24 01:01:52.0 +01:00 } +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701981074 {#1741 : 2023-12-07 21:31:14.0 +01:00 } +"title": 208075 } 1 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#2454 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#2455 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1559 …} +body: """ Current-day Linus wouldn’t react much differently. Cut the “shut the fuck up”, the one or other “fuck” (but not all, some need to be there for emphasis), done. It’s the real personal shit, the “should be aborted retroactively” stuff, that he cut out. “Obvious garbage and idiocy” is a technical term, programmers apply it to their own work all the time. Compilers are more technical in their language but we know what they mean.\n \n And was this mail, seen in its total impact, a hardship? He went down hard, yes, and thousands upon thousands of Linux *users* breathed a sigh of relief, seeing that Mauro’s attitude towards userland doesn’t fly.\n \n The hardest-hitting sentence in that mail is actually “You have shown yourself to not be competent in this issue”. Absolutely devastating. Taking context into account it’s the equivalent of telling a professional cook that their ingredients suck, what they did with them sucks, and most of all that the gall which which they claimed that the customer is wrong about their dinner sucking is completely, and utterly, unprofessional.\n \n Of course that’s hard on Mauro. There’s no way to tell someone about such an epic cock-up without being hard. But not going that far, avoiding that hardship for some notion of civility, now that would be right-out cruel. 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If anything, then an idiot (indirectly, by saying “I don’t want to hear that kind of garbage and idiocy from a kernel maintainer again”.\n \n How many of the people complaining about the mail being abusive or whatnot actually read it. 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I vastly prefer an angry-sounding takedown over a passive aggressive takedown and a takedown Mauro definitely deserved because his code was, in fact, utter shite, *and that as a maintainer*. This isn’t “oh he’s a noob he doesn’t know how the kernel works” type of territory. Also note that this happened *after* he had been told what’s up in a neutral and factual way: Linus, even in his most management by perkele days, never made those things the first reply to anything. So Mauro got his chance to spot that he fucked up and correct his approach, he didn’t, therefore, it has to be said loudly. Simple as that.\n \n Also, no “you should be aborted retroactively” in sight anywhere. Yeah that stuff wasn’t necessary even though everyone with an ounce of social intelligence should readily spot that those insults were always so over the top as to be obviously humorous. 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Follow the site-wide rules and [code of conduct](https://join-lemmy.org/docs/code_of_conduct.html)2. Be civil 3. Post Linux-related content 4. No recent reposts Please report posts and comments that break these rules! """ +rules: null +subscriptionsCount: 1 +entryCount: 398 +entryCommentCount: 11895 +postCount: 1 +postCommentCount: 0 +isAdult: false +customCss: null +lastActive: DateTime @1726884280 {#3171 : 2024-09-21 04:04:40.0 +02:00 } +markedForDeletionAt: null +tags: null +moderators: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3175 …} +ownershipRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3177 …} +moderatorRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3179 …} +entries: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3181 …} +posts: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3183 …} +subscriptions: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3185 …} +bans: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3191 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3199 …} +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3212 …} +logs: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3222 …} +awards: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3204 …} +categories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3228 …} -id: 83 +apId: "linuxmemes@lemmy.world" +apProfileId: "https://lemmy.world/c/linuxmemes" +apPublicUrl: "https://lemmy.world/c/linuxmemes" +apFollowersUrl: "https://lemmy.world/c/linuxmemes/followers" +apInboxUrl: "https://lemmy.world/inbox" +apDomain: "lemmy.world" +apPreferredUsername: "linuxmemes" +apDiscoverable: true +apManuallyApprovesFollowers: null +privateKey: null +publicKey: null +apFetchedAt: DateTime @1719076635 {#3172 : 2024-06-22 19:17:15.0 +02:00 } +apDeletedAt: null +apTimeoutAt: null +visibility: "visible " +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1699095615 {#3173 : 2023-11-04 12:00:15.0 +01:00 } +__isInitialized__: true …2 } +image: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#2199 …} +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#2267 …} +slug: "Linus-does-not-fuck-around" +title: "Linus does not fuck around" +url: "https://lemmy.one/pictrs/image/f5614afd-25b9-4afe-a003-00eab7c7fb34.png" +body: "An oldie, but a goodie" +type: "image" +lang: "en" +isOc: false +hasEmbed: true +commentCount: 471 +favouriteCount: 1556 +score: 0 +isAdult: false +sticky: false +lastActive: DateTime @1720068489 {#2101 : 2024-07-04 06:48:09.0 +02:00 } +ip: null +adaAmount: 0 +tags: null +mentions: null +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2268 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2266 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2200 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2246 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2260 …} +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2142 …} +children: [ 7 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1614} 6 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1562 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1566 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1559 …} +body: "This is a message to an @redhat address, as you might notice. Mauro gets paid to work on the kernel and is not a noob who doesn’t know better, either, he’s a maintainer who fucked up basic maintenance." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 15 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701954818 {#1572 : 2023-12-07 14:13:38.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@jose1324@lemmy.world" "@redhat" "@Synthead@lemmy.world" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1548 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1554 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1556 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1555 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1620 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1604 …} -id: 206422 -bodyTs: "'address':8 'basic':39 'better':30 'doesn':27 'either':31 'fuck':37 'get':14 'kernel':20 'know':29 'maintain':35 'mainten':40 'mauro':13 'messag':4 'might':11 'noob':25 'notic':12 'paid':15 'redhat':7 'work':17" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7083443" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701954818 {#1563 : 2023-12-07 14:13:38.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206422 } 5 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1701 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1683 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +body: """ “being a dick” and “assertive” are weasel terms which do a hell a lot of lifting in your argument there. I have no idea where your line for behaviour to be deemed acceptable actually is.\n \n IMO, no, Linus wasn’t a dick. He called out a specific attitude and behaviour which Mauro is not supposed to show in his role as maintainer. What about Mauro being a dick because he went in all self-righteous like “this is a bug in pulseaudio”?\n \n If you were a restaurant manager, and a server told a customer that he’s not going to serve beer with steak but only wine because “drinking beer with steak is obviously wrong”, what would you do? Chew them out, of course. It’s way out of line. This isn’t Linus exploding over nothing just to bully someone, that’s a thing he has *never* done.\n \n If you want someone toxic to complain about in the FOSS space pick Lennart Poettering, the kind of guy who replies to “We’d like to be able to disable various features to keep things small” with “why do you hate disabled people they need accessibility”. More generally speaking: Focussing on tone never ends up well. You can be incredibly toxic in the most flowery of idioms. """ +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 11 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701959697 {#1619 : 2023-12-07 15:34:57.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@feddylemmy@lemmy.world" "@barsoap@lemm.ee" "@oatscoop@midwest.social" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1687 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1689 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1691 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1795 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1711 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1611 …} -id: 206639 -bodyTs: "'abl':178 'accept':33 'access':196 'actual':34 'argument':19 'assert':5 'attitud':48 'beer':103,111 'behaviour':29,50 'bug':81 'bulli':141 'call':44 'chew':121 'complain':157 'cours':125 'custom':95 'd':174 'deem':32 'dick':3,42,68 'disabl':180,192 'done':150 'drink':110 'end':204 'explod':136 'featur':182 'floweri':215 'focuss':200 'foss':161 'general':198 'go':100 'guy':169 'hate':191 'hell':12 'idea':24 'idiom':217 'imo':36 'incred':210 'isn':133 'keep':184 'kind':167 'lennart':164 'lift':16 'like':77,175 'line':27,131 'linus':38,135 'lot':14 'maintain':62 'manag':89 'mauro':52,65 'need':195 'never':149,203 'noth':138 'obvious':115 'peopl':193 'pick':163 'poetter':165 'pulseaudio':83 'repli':171 'restaur':88 'righteous':76 'role':60 'self':75 'self-right':74 'serv':102 'server':92 'show':57 'small':186 'someon':142,154 'space':162 'speak':199 'specif':47 'steak':105,113 'suppos':55 'term':8 'thing':146,185 'told':93 'tone':202 'toxic':155,211 'various':181 'want':153 'wasn':39 'way':128 'weasel':7 'well':206 'went':71 'wine':108 'would':118 'wrong':116" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7085819" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701959697 {#1702 : 2023-12-07 15:34:57.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206639 } 4 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1628 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1626 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +body: "Yep this is lemmy not reddit. Switcharoos with actual substance and everyone is way more humble." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 4 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701962246 {#1630 : 2023-12-07 16:17:26.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@feddylemmy@lemmy.world" "@Windex007@lemmy.world" "@interceder270@lemmy.world" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1599 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1625 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1617 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1725 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1722 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1726 …} -id: 206790 -bodyTs: "'actual':9 'everyon':12 'humbl':16 'lemmi':4 'reddit':6 'substanc':10 'switcharoo':7 'way':14 'yep':1" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7087266" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701962246 {#1629 : 2023-12-07 16:17:26.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206790 } 3 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1737 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1734 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +body: """ > and being abusive\n \n There’s it again. What, precisely, is it that makes Linus’ comment “abusive”? Is he gaslighting? Is he attacking Mauro over what he is? All I see is calling out, harshly, what Mauro *did*, behaviour that actually occurred and that is not acceptable and that Mauro *knows* is not acceptable. “We do not break userspace” is the rule #1 of Linux development, Mauro ignored it *and* was a dick about it.\n \n Or do you disagree with the *tone* of the whole thing. Things like “Shut up” instead of “This is not up for discussion”. If so, then please for the love of the gods please shut up. """ +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 6 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701968575 {#1736 : 2023-12-07 18:02:55.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@feddylemmy@lemmy.world" "@barsoap@lemm.ee" "@oatscoop@midwest.social" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1732 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1735 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1729 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1719 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1714 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1720 …} -id: 207200 -bodyTs: "'1':62 'abus':3,16 'accept':46,53 'actual':40 'attack':22 'behaviour':38 'break':57 'call':32 'comment':15 'develop':65 'dick':72 'disagre':78 'discuss':97 'gaslight':19 'god':107 'harsh':34 'ignor':67 'instead':90 'know':50 'like':87 'linus':14 'linux':64 'love':104 'make':13 'mauro':23,36,49,66 'occur':41 'pleas':101,108 'precis':9 'rule':61 'see':30 'shut':88,109 'thing':85,86 'tone':81 'userspac':58 'whole':84" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7090782" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701968575 {#1730 : 2023-12-07 18:02:55.0 +01:00 } +"title": 207200 } 2 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1740 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1707 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1559 …} +body: "I just wish for all of us to become more accustomed to working on ourselves instead of projecting the need to develop virtue on others. Linus actually did it, doesn’t mean that he was an asshole before. Brash, sure, crass, yes, but actual assholes don’t calm down as easily." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 0 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701981074 {#1717 : 2023-12-07 21:31:14.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@jose1324@lemmy.world" "@redhat" "@Synthead@lemmy.world" "@barsoap@lemm.ee" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2465 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2463 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2411 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2422 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2458 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2456 …} -id: 208075 -bodyTs: "'accustom':11 'actual':27,44 'asshol':37,45 'becom':9 'brash':39 'calm':48 'crass':41 'develop':22 'doesn':30 'easili':51 'instead':16 'linus':26 'mean':32 'need':20 'other':25 'project':18 'sure':40 'us':7 'virtu':23 'wish':3 'work':13 'yes':42" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7097925" +editedAt: DateTimeImmutable @1703376112 {#1739 : 2023-12-24 01:01:52.0 +01:00 } +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701981074 {#1741 : 2023-12-07 21:31:14.0 +01:00 } +"title": 208075 } 1 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#2454 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#2455 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1559 …} +body: """ Current-day Linus wouldn’t react much differently. Cut the “shut the fuck up”, the one or other “fuck” (but not all, some need to be there for emphasis), done. It’s the real personal shit, the “should be aborted retroactively” stuff, that he cut out. “Obvious garbage and idiocy” is a technical term, programmers apply it to their own work all the time. Compilers are more technical in their language but we know what they mean.\n \n And was this mail, seen in its total impact, a hardship? He went down hard, yes, and thousands upon thousands of Linux *users* breathed a sigh of relief, seeing that Mauro’s attitude towards userland doesn’t fly.\n \n The hardest-hitting sentence in that mail is actually “You have shown yourself to not be competent in this issue”. Absolutely devastating. Taking context into account it’s the equivalent of telling a professional cook that their ingredients suck, what they did with them sucks, and most of all that the gall which which they claimed that the customer is wrong about their dinner sucking is completely, and utterly, unprofessional.\n \n Of course that’s hard on Mauro. There’s no way to tell someone about such an epic cock-up without being hard. But not going that far, avoiding that hardship for some notion of civility, now that would be right-out cruel. 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If anything, then an idiot (indirectly, by saying “I don’t want to hear that kind of garbage and idiocy from a kernel maintainer again”.\n \n How many of the people complaining about the mail being abusive or whatnot actually read it. """ +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 12 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701986185 {#2361 : 2023-12-07 22:56:25.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@maniacalmanicmania@aussie.zone" "@Shadywack@lemmy.world" "@radioactiveradio@lemm.ee" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2382 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2384 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2379 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2383 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1906 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1708 …} -id: 208387 -bodyTs: "'abus':55 'actual':58 'anyth':12,21 'call':10 'code':5,18 'complain':50 'didn':8 'fart':6,19 'fuck':1,4 'garbag':37 'hear':33 'idioci':39 'idiot':24 'indirect':25 'kernel':42 'kind':35 'less':16 'linus':7 'mail':53 'maintain':43 'mani':46 'mauro':11 'much':15 'peopl':49 'read':59 'say':27 'want':31 'whatnot':57" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7100595" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701986185 {#2364 : 2023-12-07 22:56:25.0 +01:00 } +"title": 208387 } ] -id: 20779 -titleTs: "'around':5 'fuck':4 'linus':1" -bodyTs: "'goodi':5 'oldi':2" +cross: false +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +ranking: 1702003921 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemmy.one/post/7710802" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701917521 {#1606 : 2023-12-07 03:52:01.0 +01:00 } +__isInitialized__: true …2 } +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +body: """ Nah it’s completely fine. I vastly prefer an angry-sounding takedown over a passive aggressive takedown and a takedown Mauro definitely deserved because his code was, in fact, utter shite, *and that as a maintainer*. This isn’t “oh he’s a noob he doesn’t know how the kernel works” type of territory. Also note that this happened *after* he had been told what’s up in a neutral and factual way: Linus, even in his most management by perkele days, never made those things the first reply to anything. So Mauro got his chance to spot that he fucked up and correct his approach, he didn’t, therefore, it has to be said loudly. Simple as that.\n \n Also, no “you should be aborted retroactively” in sight anywhere. Yeah that stuff wasn’t necessary even though everyone with an ounce of social intelligence should readily spot that those insults were always so over the top as to be obviously humorous. 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Follow the site-wide rules and [code of conduct](https://join-lemmy.org/docs/code_of_conduct.html)2. Be civil 3. Post Linux-related content 4. No recent reposts Please report posts and comments that break these rules! 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Mauro gets paid to work on the kernel and is not a noob who doesn’t know better, either, he’s a maintainer who fucked up basic maintenance." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 15 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701954818 {#1572 : 2023-12-07 14:13:38.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@jose1324@lemmy.world" "@redhat" "@Synthead@lemmy.world" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1548 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1554 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1556 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1555 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1620 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1604 …} -id: 206422 -bodyTs: "'address':8 'basic':39 'better':30 'doesn':27 'either':31 'fuck':37 'get':14 'kernel':20 'know':29 'maintain':35 'mainten':40 'mauro':13 'messag':4 'might':11 'noob':25 'notic':12 'paid':15 'redhat':7 'work':17" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7083443" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701954818 {#1563 : 2023-12-07 14:13:38.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206422 } 5 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1701 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1683 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +body: """ “being a dick” and “assertive” are weasel terms which do a hell a lot of lifting in your argument there. I have no idea where your line for behaviour to be deemed acceptable actually is.\n \n IMO, no, Linus wasn’t a dick. He called out a specific attitude and behaviour which Mauro is not supposed to show in his role as maintainer. What about Mauro being a dick because he went in all self-righteous like “this is a bug in pulseaudio”?\n \n If you were a restaurant manager, and a server told a customer that he’s not going to serve beer with steak but only wine because “drinking beer with steak is obviously wrong”, what would you do? Chew them out, of course. It’s way out of line. This isn’t Linus exploding over nothing just to bully someone, that’s a thing he has *never* done.\n \n If you want someone toxic to complain about in the FOSS space pick Lennart Poettering, the kind of guy who replies to “We’d like to be able to disable various features to keep things small” with “why do you hate disabled people they need accessibility”. More generally speaking: Focussing on tone never ends up well. You can be incredibly toxic in the most flowery of idioms. """ +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 11 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701959697 {#1619 : 2023-12-07 15:34:57.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@feddylemmy@lemmy.world" "@barsoap@lemm.ee" "@oatscoop@midwest.social" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1687 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1689 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1691 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1795 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1711 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1611 …} -id: 206639 -bodyTs: "'abl':178 'accept':33 'access':196 'actual':34 'argument':19 'assert':5 'attitud':48 'beer':103,111 'behaviour':29,50 'bug':81 'bulli':141 'call':44 'chew':121 'complain':157 'cours':125 'custom':95 'd':174 'deem':32 'dick':3,42,68 'disabl':180,192 'done':150 'drink':110 'end':204 'explod':136 'featur':182 'floweri':215 'focuss':200 'foss':161 'general':198 'go':100 'guy':169 'hate':191 'hell':12 'idea':24 'idiom':217 'imo':36 'incred':210 'isn':133 'keep':184 'kind':167 'lennart':164 'lift':16 'like':77,175 'line':27,131 'linus':38,135 'lot':14 'maintain':62 'manag':89 'mauro':52,65 'need':195 'never':149,203 'noth':138 'obvious':115 'peopl':193 'pick':163 'poetter':165 'pulseaudio':83 'repli':171 'restaur':88 'righteous':76 'role':60 'self':75 'self-right':74 'serv':102 'server':92 'show':57 'small':186 'someon':142,154 'space':162 'speak':199 'specif':47 'steak':105,113 'suppos':55 'term':8 'thing':146,185 'told':93 'tone':202 'toxic':155,211 'various':181 'want':153 'wasn':39 'way':128 'weasel':7 'well':206 'went':71 'wine':108 'would':118 'wrong':116" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7085819" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701959697 {#1702 : 2023-12-07 15:34:57.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206639 } 4 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1628 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1626 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +body: "Yep this is lemmy not reddit. Switcharoos with actual substance and everyone is way more humble." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 4 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701962246 {#1630 : 2023-12-07 16:17:26.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@feddylemmy@lemmy.world" "@Windex007@lemmy.world" "@interceder270@lemmy.world" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1599 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1625 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1617 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1725 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1722 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1726 …} -id: 206790 -bodyTs: "'actual':9 'everyon':12 'humbl':16 'lemmi':4 'reddit':6 'substanc':10 'switcharoo':7 'way':14 'yep':1" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7087266" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701962246 {#1629 : 2023-12-07 16:17:26.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206790 } 3 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1737 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1734 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +body: """ > and being abusive\n \n There’s it again. What, precisely, is it that makes Linus’ comment “abusive”? Is he gaslighting? Is he attacking Mauro over what he is? All I see is calling out, harshly, what Mauro *did*, behaviour that actually occurred and that is not acceptable and that Mauro *knows* is not acceptable. “We do not break userspace” is the rule #1 of Linux development, Mauro ignored it *and* was a dick about it.\n \n Or do you disagree with the *tone* of the whole thing. Things like “Shut up” instead of “This is not up for discussion”. If so, then please for the love of the gods please shut up. 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Linus actually did it, doesn’t mean that he was an asshole before. Brash, sure, crass, yes, but actual assholes don’t calm down as easily." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 0 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701981074 {#1717 : 2023-12-07 21:31:14.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@jose1324@lemmy.world" "@redhat" "@Synthead@lemmy.world" "@barsoap@lemm.ee" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2465 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2463 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2411 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2422 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2458 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2456 …} -id: 208075 -bodyTs: "'accustom':11 'actual':27,44 'asshol':37,45 'becom':9 'brash':39 'calm':48 'crass':41 'develop':22 'doesn':30 'easili':51 'instead':16 'linus':26 'mean':32 'need':20 'other':25 'project':18 'sure':40 'us':7 'virtu':23 'wish':3 'work':13 'yes':42" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7097925" +editedAt: DateTimeImmutable @1703376112 {#1739 : 2023-12-24 01:01:52.0 +01:00 } +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701981074 {#1741 : 2023-12-07 21:31:14.0 +01:00 } +"title": 208075 } 1 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#2454 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#2455 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1559 …} +body: """ Current-day Linus wouldn’t react much differently. Cut the “shut the fuck up”, the one or other “fuck” (but not all, some need to be there for emphasis), done. It’s the real personal shit, the “should be aborted retroactively” stuff, that he cut out. “Obvious garbage and idiocy” is a technical term, programmers apply it to their own work all the time. Compilers are more technical in their language but we know what they mean.\n \n And was this mail, seen in its total impact, a hardship? He went down hard, yes, and thousands upon thousands of Linux *users* breathed a sigh of relief, seeing that Mauro’s attitude towards userland doesn’t fly.\n \n The hardest-hitting sentence in that mail is actually “You have shown yourself to not be competent in this issue”. Absolutely devastating. Taking context into account it’s the equivalent of telling a professional cook that their ingredients suck, what they did with them sucks, and most of all that the gall which which they claimed that the customer is wrong about their dinner sucking is completely, and utterly, unprofessional.\n \n Of course that’s hard on Mauro. There’s no way to tell someone about such an epic cock-up without being hard. But not going that far, avoiding that hardship for some notion of civility, now that would be right-out cruel. 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If anything, then an idiot (indirectly, by saying “I don’t want to hear that kind of garbage and idiocy from a kernel maintainer again”.\n \n How many of the people complaining about the mail being abusive or whatnot actually read it. 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I vastly prefer an angry-sounding takedown over a passive aggressive takedown and a takedown Mauro definitely deserved because his code was, in fact, utter shite, *and that as a maintainer*. This isn’t “oh he’s a noob he doesn’t know how the kernel works” type of territory. Also note that this happened *after* he had been told what’s up in a neutral and factual way: Linus, even in his most management by perkele days, never made those things the first reply to anything. So Mauro got his chance to spot that he fucked up and correct his approach, he didn’t, therefore, it has to be said loudly. Simple as that.\n \n Also, no “you should be aborted retroactively” in sight anywhere. Yeah that stuff wasn’t necessary even though everyone with an ounce of social intelligence should readily spot that those insults were always so over the top as to be obviously humorous. 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Mauro gets paid to work on the kernel and is not a noob who doesn’t know better, either, he’s a maintainer who fucked up basic maintenance." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 15 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701954818 {#1572 : 2023-12-07 14:13:38.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@jose1324@lemmy.world" "@redhat" "@Synthead@lemmy.world" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1548 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1554 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1556 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1555 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1620 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1604 …} -id: 206422 -bodyTs: "'address':8 'basic':39 'better':30 'doesn':27 'either':31 'fuck':37 'get':14 'kernel':20 'know':29 'maintain':35 'mainten':40 'mauro':13 'messag':4 'might':11 'noob':25 'notic':12 'paid':15 'redhat':7 'work':17" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7083443" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701954818 {#1563 : 2023-12-07 14:13:38.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206422 } 5 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1701 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1683 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +body: """ “being a dick” and “assertive” are weasel terms which do a hell a lot of lifting in your argument there. I have no idea where your line for behaviour to be deemed acceptable actually is.\n \n IMO, no, Linus wasn’t a dick. He called out a specific attitude and behaviour which Mauro is not supposed to show in his role as maintainer. What about Mauro being a dick because he went in all self-righteous like “this is a bug in pulseaudio”?\n \n If you were a restaurant manager, and a server told a customer that he’s not going to serve beer with steak but only wine because “drinking beer with steak is obviously wrong”, what would you do? Chew them out, of course. It’s way out of line. This isn’t Linus exploding over nothing just to bully someone, that’s a thing he has *never* done.\n \n If you want someone toxic to complain about in the FOSS space pick Lennart Poettering, the kind of guy who replies to “We’d like to be able to disable various features to keep things small” with “why do you hate disabled people they need accessibility”. More generally speaking: Focussing on tone never ends up well. You can be incredibly toxic in the most flowery of idioms. 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Switcharoos with actual substance and everyone is way more humble." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 4 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701962246 {#1630 : 2023-12-07 16:17:26.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@feddylemmy@lemmy.world" "@Windex007@lemmy.world" "@interceder270@lemmy.world" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1599 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1625 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1617 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1725 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1722 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1726 …} -id: 206790 -bodyTs: "'actual':9 'everyon':12 'humbl':16 'lemmi':4 'reddit':6 'substanc':10 'switcharoo':7 'way':14 'yep':1" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7087266" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701962246 {#1629 : 2023-12-07 16:17:26.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206790 } 3 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1737 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1734 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +body: """ > and being abusive\n \n There’s it again. What, precisely, is it that makes Linus’ comment “abusive”? Is he gaslighting? Is he attacking Mauro over what he is? All I see is calling out, harshly, what Mauro *did*, behaviour that actually occurred and that is not acceptable and that Mauro *knows* is not acceptable. “We do not break userspace” is the rule #1 of Linux development, Mauro ignored it *and* was a dick about it.\n \n Or do you disagree with the *tone* of the whole thing. Things like “Shut up” instead of “This is not up for discussion”. If so, then please for the love of the gods please shut up. 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Linus actually did it, doesn’t mean that he was an asshole before. Brash, sure, crass, yes, but actual assholes don’t calm down as easily." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 0 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701981074 {#1717 : 2023-12-07 21:31:14.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@jose1324@lemmy.world" "@redhat" "@Synthead@lemmy.world" "@barsoap@lemm.ee" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2465 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2463 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2411 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2422 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2458 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2456 …} -id: 208075 -bodyTs: "'accustom':11 'actual':27,44 'asshol':37,45 'becom':9 'brash':39 'calm':48 'crass':41 'develop':22 'doesn':30 'easili':51 'instead':16 'linus':26 'mean':32 'need':20 'other':25 'project':18 'sure':40 'us':7 'virtu':23 'wish':3 'work':13 'yes':42" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7097925" +editedAt: DateTimeImmutable @1703376112 {#1739 : 2023-12-24 01:01:52.0 +01:00 } +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701981074 {#1741 : 2023-12-07 21:31:14.0 +01:00 } +"title": 208075 } 1 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#2454 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#2455 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1559 …} +body: """ Current-day Linus wouldn’t react much differently. Cut the “shut the fuck up”, the one or other “fuck” (but not all, some need to be there for emphasis), done. It’s the real personal shit, the “should be aborted retroactively” stuff, that he cut out. “Obvious garbage and idiocy” is a technical term, programmers apply it to their own work all the time. Compilers are more technical in their language but we know what they mean.\n \n And was this mail, seen in its total impact, a hardship? He went down hard, yes, and thousands upon thousands of Linux *users* breathed a sigh of relief, seeing that Mauro’s attitude towards userland doesn’t fly.\n \n The hardest-hitting sentence in that mail is actually “You have shown yourself to not be competent in this issue”. Absolutely devastating. Taking context into account it’s the equivalent of telling a professional cook that their ingredients suck, what they did with them sucks, and most of all that the gall which which they claimed that the customer is wrong about their dinner sucking is completely, and utterly, unprofessional.\n \n Of course that’s hard on Mauro. There’s no way to tell someone about such an epic cock-up without being hard. But not going that far, avoiding that hardship for some notion of civility, now that would be right-out cruel. 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If anything, then an idiot (indirectly, by saying “I don’t want to hear that kind of garbage and idiocy from a kernel maintainer again”.\n \n How many of the people complaining about the mail being abusive or whatnot actually read it. 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I vastly prefer an angry-sounding takedown over a passive aggressive takedown and a takedown Mauro definitely deserved because his code was, in fact, utter shite, *and that as a maintainer*. This isn’t “oh he’s a noob he doesn’t know how the kernel works” type of territory. Also note that this happened *after* he had been told what’s up in a neutral and factual way: Linus, even in his most management by perkele days, never made those things the first reply to anything. So Mauro got his chance to spot that he fucked up and correct his approach, he didn’t, therefore, it has to be said loudly. Simple as that.\n \n Also, no “you should be aborted retroactively” in sight anywhere. Yeah that stuff wasn’t necessary even though everyone with an ounce of social intelligence should readily spot that those insults were always so over the top as to be obviously humorous. 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Mauro gets paid to work on the kernel and is not a noob who doesn’t know better, either, he’s a maintainer who fucked up basic maintenance." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 15 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701954818 {#1572 : 2023-12-07 14:13:38.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@jose1324@lemmy.world" "@redhat" "@Synthead@lemmy.world" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1548 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1554 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1556 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1555 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1620 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1604 …} -id: 206422 -bodyTs: "'address':8 'basic':39 'better':30 'doesn':27 'either':31 'fuck':37 'get':14 'kernel':20 'know':29 'maintain':35 'mainten':40 'mauro':13 'messag':4 'might':11 'noob':25 'notic':12 'paid':15 'redhat':7 'work':17" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7083443" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701954818 {#1563 : 2023-12-07 14:13:38.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206422 } 5 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1701 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1683 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +body: """ “being a dick” and “assertive” are weasel terms which do a hell a lot of lifting in your argument there. I have no idea where your line for behaviour to be deemed acceptable actually is.\n \n IMO, no, Linus wasn’t a dick. He called out a specific attitude and behaviour which Mauro is not supposed to show in his role as maintainer. What about Mauro being a dick because he went in all self-righteous like “this is a bug in pulseaudio”?\n \n If you were a restaurant manager, and a server told a customer that he’s not going to serve beer with steak but only wine because “drinking beer with steak is obviously wrong”, what would you do? Chew them out, of course. It’s way out of line. This isn’t Linus exploding over nothing just to bully someone, that’s a thing he has *never* done.\n \n If you want someone toxic to complain about in the FOSS space pick Lennart Poettering, the kind of guy who replies to “We’d like to be able to disable various features to keep things small” with “why do you hate disabled people they need accessibility”. More generally speaking: Focussing on tone never ends up well. You can be incredibly toxic in the most flowery of idioms. """ +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 11 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701959697 {#1619 : 2023-12-07 15:34:57.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@feddylemmy@lemmy.world" "@barsoap@lemm.ee" "@oatscoop@midwest.social" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1687 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1689 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1691 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1795 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1711 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1611 …} -id: 206639 -bodyTs: "'abl':178 'accept':33 'access':196 'actual':34 'argument':19 'assert':5 'attitud':48 'beer':103,111 'behaviour':29,50 'bug':81 'bulli':141 'call':44 'chew':121 'complain':157 'cours':125 'custom':95 'd':174 'deem':32 'dick':3,42,68 'disabl':180,192 'done':150 'drink':110 'end':204 'explod':136 'featur':182 'floweri':215 'focuss':200 'foss':161 'general':198 'go':100 'guy':169 'hate':191 'hell':12 'idea':24 'idiom':217 'imo':36 'incred':210 'isn':133 'keep':184 'kind':167 'lennart':164 'lift':16 'like':77,175 'line':27,131 'linus':38,135 'lot':14 'maintain':62 'manag':89 'mauro':52,65 'need':195 'never':149,203 'noth':138 'obvious':115 'peopl':193 'pick':163 'poetter':165 'pulseaudio':83 'repli':171 'restaur':88 'righteous':76 'role':60 'self':75 'self-right':74 'serv':102 'server':92 'show':57 'small':186 'someon':142,154 'space':162 'speak':199 'specif':47 'steak':105,113 'suppos':55 'term':8 'thing':146,185 'told':93 'tone':202 'toxic':155,211 'various':181 'want':153 'wasn':39 'way':128 'weasel':7 'well':206 'went':71 'wine':108 'would':118 'wrong':116" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7085819" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701959697 {#1702 : 2023-12-07 15:34:57.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206639 } 4 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1628 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1626 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +body: "Yep this is lemmy not reddit. Switcharoos with actual substance and everyone is way more humble." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 4 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701962246 {#1630 : 2023-12-07 16:17:26.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@feddylemmy@lemmy.world" "@Windex007@lemmy.world" "@interceder270@lemmy.world" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1599 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1625 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1617 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1725 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1722 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1726 …} -id: 206790 -bodyTs: "'actual':9 'everyon':12 'humbl':16 'lemmi':4 'reddit':6 'substanc':10 'switcharoo':7 'way':14 'yep':1" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7087266" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701962246 {#1629 : 2023-12-07 16:17:26.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206790 } 3 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1737 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1734 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +body: """ > and being abusive\n \n There’s it again. What, precisely, is it that makes Linus’ comment “abusive”? Is he gaslighting? Is he attacking Mauro over what he is? All I see is calling out, harshly, what Mauro *did*, behaviour that actually occurred and that is not acceptable and that Mauro *knows* is not acceptable. “We do not break userspace” is the rule #1 of Linux development, Mauro ignored it *and* was a dick about it.\n \n Or do you disagree with the *tone* of the whole thing. Things like “Shut up” instead of “This is not up for discussion”. If so, then please for the love of the gods please shut up. """ +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 6 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701968575 {#1736 : 2023-12-07 18:02:55.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@feddylemmy@lemmy.world" "@barsoap@lemm.ee" "@oatscoop@midwest.social" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1732 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1735 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1729 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1719 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1714 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1720 …} -id: 207200 -bodyTs: "'1':62 'abus':3,16 'accept':46,53 'actual':40 'attack':22 'behaviour':38 'break':57 'call':32 'comment':15 'develop':65 'dick':72 'disagre':78 'discuss':97 'gaslight':19 'god':107 'harsh':34 'ignor':67 'instead':90 'know':50 'like':87 'linus':14 'linux':64 'love':104 'make':13 'mauro':23,36,49,66 'occur':41 'pleas':101,108 'precis':9 'rule':61 'see':30 'shut':88,109 'thing':85,86 'tone':81 'userspac':58 'whole':84" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7090782" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701968575 {#1730 : 2023-12-07 18:02:55.0 +01:00 } +"title": 207200 } 2 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1740 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1707 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1559 …} +body: "I just wish for all of us to become more accustomed to working on ourselves instead of projecting the need to develop virtue on others. Linus actually did it, doesn’t mean that he was an asshole before. Brash, sure, crass, yes, but actual assholes don’t calm down as easily." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 0 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701981074 {#1717 : 2023-12-07 21:31:14.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@jose1324@lemmy.world" "@redhat" "@Synthead@lemmy.world" "@barsoap@lemm.ee" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2465 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2463 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2411 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2422 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2458 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2456 …} -id: 208075 -bodyTs: "'accustom':11 'actual':27,44 'asshol':37,45 'becom':9 'brash':39 'calm':48 'crass':41 'develop':22 'doesn':30 'easili':51 'instead':16 'linus':26 'mean':32 'need':20 'other':25 'project':18 'sure':40 'us':7 'virtu':23 'wish':3 'work':13 'yes':42" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7097925" +editedAt: DateTimeImmutable @1703376112 {#1739 : 2023-12-24 01:01:52.0 +01:00 } +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701981074 {#1741 : 2023-12-07 21:31:14.0 +01:00 } +"title": 208075 } 1 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#2454 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#2455 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1559 …} +body: """ Current-day Linus wouldn’t react much differently. Cut the “shut the fuck up”, the one or other “fuck” (but not all, some need to be there for emphasis), done. It’s the real personal shit, the “should be aborted retroactively” stuff, that he cut out. “Obvious garbage and idiocy” is a technical term, programmers apply it to their own work all the time. Compilers are more technical in their language but we know what they mean.\n \n And was this mail, seen in its total impact, a hardship? He went down hard, yes, and thousands upon thousands of Linux *users* breathed a sigh of relief, seeing that Mauro’s attitude towards userland doesn’t fly.\n \n The hardest-hitting sentence in that mail is actually “You have shown yourself to not be competent in this issue”. Absolutely devastating. Taking context into account it’s the equivalent of telling a professional cook that their ingredients suck, what they did with them sucks, and most of all that the gall which which they claimed that the customer is wrong about their dinner sucking is completely, and utterly, unprofessional.\n \n Of course that’s hard on Mauro. There’s no way to tell someone about such an epic cock-up without being hard. But not going that far, avoiding that hardship for some notion of civility, now that would be right-out cruel. 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If anything, then an idiot (indirectly, by saying “I don’t want to hear that kind of garbage and idiocy from a kernel maintainer again”.\n \n How many of the people complaining about the mail being abusive or whatnot actually read it. 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I vastly prefer an angry-sounding takedown over a passive aggressive takedown and a takedown Mauro definitely deserved because his code was, in fact, utter shite, *and that as a maintainer*. This isn’t “oh he’s a noob he doesn’t know how the kernel works” type of territory. Also note that this happened *after* he had been told what’s up in a neutral and factual way: Linus, even in his most management by perkele days, never made those things the first reply to anything. So Mauro got his chance to spot that he fucked up and correct his approach, he didn’t, therefore, it has to be said loudly. Simple as that.\n \n Also, no “you should be aborted retroactively” in sight anywhere. Yeah that stuff wasn’t necessary even though everyone with an ounce of social intelligence should readily spot that those insults were always so over the top as to be obviously humorous. 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Mauro gets paid to work on the kernel and is not a noob who doesn’t know better, either, he’s a maintainer who fucked up basic maintenance." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 15 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701954818 {#1572 : 2023-12-07 14:13:38.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@jose1324@lemmy.world" "@redhat" "@Synthead@lemmy.world" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1548 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1554 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1556 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1555 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1620 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1604 …} -id: 206422 -bodyTs: "'address':8 'basic':39 'better':30 'doesn':27 'either':31 'fuck':37 'get':14 'kernel':20 'know':29 'maintain':35 'mainten':40 'mauro':13 'messag':4 'might':11 'noob':25 'notic':12 'paid':15 'redhat':7 'work':17" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7083443" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701954818 {#1563 : 2023-12-07 14:13:38.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206422 } 5 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1701 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1683 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +body: """ “being a dick” and “assertive” are weasel terms which do a hell a lot of lifting in your argument there. I have no idea where your line for behaviour to be deemed acceptable actually is.\n \n IMO, no, Linus wasn’t a dick. He called out a specific attitude and behaviour which Mauro is not supposed to show in his role as maintainer. What about Mauro being a dick because he went in all self-righteous like “this is a bug in pulseaudio”?\n \n If you were a restaurant manager, and a server told a customer that he’s not going to serve beer with steak but only wine because “drinking beer with steak is obviously wrong”, what would you do? Chew them out, of course. It’s way out of line. This isn’t Linus exploding over nothing just to bully someone, that’s a thing he has *never* done.\n \n If you want someone toxic to complain about in the FOSS space pick Lennart Poettering, the kind of guy who replies to “We’d like to be able to disable various features to keep things small” with “why do you hate disabled people they need accessibility”. More generally speaking: Focussing on tone never ends up well. You can be incredibly toxic in the most flowery of idioms. 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Switcharoos with actual substance and everyone is way more humble." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 4 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701962246 {#1630 : 2023-12-07 16:17:26.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@feddylemmy@lemmy.world" "@Windex007@lemmy.world" "@interceder270@lemmy.world" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1599 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1625 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1617 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1725 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1722 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1726 …} -id: 206790 -bodyTs: "'actual':9 'everyon':12 'humbl':16 'lemmi':4 'reddit':6 'substanc':10 'switcharoo':7 'way':14 'yep':1" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7087266" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701962246 {#1629 : 2023-12-07 16:17:26.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206790 } 3 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1737 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1734 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +body: """ > and being abusive\n \n There’s it again. What, precisely, is it that makes Linus’ comment “abusive”? Is he gaslighting? Is he attacking Mauro over what he is? All I see is calling out, harshly, what Mauro *did*, behaviour that actually occurred and that is not acceptable and that Mauro *knows* is not acceptable. “We do not break userspace” is the rule #1 of Linux development, Mauro ignored it *and* was a dick about it.\n \n Or do you disagree with the *tone* of the whole thing. Things like “Shut up” instead of “This is not up for discussion”. If so, then please for the love of the gods please shut up. 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Linus actually did it, doesn’t mean that he was an asshole before. Brash, sure, crass, yes, but actual assholes don’t calm down as easily." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 0 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701981074 {#1717 : 2023-12-07 21:31:14.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@jose1324@lemmy.world" "@redhat" "@Synthead@lemmy.world" "@barsoap@lemm.ee" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2465 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2463 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2411 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2422 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2458 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2456 …} -id: 208075 -bodyTs: "'accustom':11 'actual':27,44 'asshol':37,45 'becom':9 'brash':39 'calm':48 'crass':41 'develop':22 'doesn':30 'easili':51 'instead':16 'linus':26 'mean':32 'need':20 'other':25 'project':18 'sure':40 'us':7 'virtu':23 'wish':3 'work':13 'yes':42" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7097925" +editedAt: DateTimeImmutable @1703376112 {#1739 : 2023-12-24 01:01:52.0 +01:00 } +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701981074 {#1741 : 2023-12-07 21:31:14.0 +01:00 } +"title": 208075 } 1 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#2454 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#2455 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1559 …} +body: """ Current-day Linus wouldn’t react much differently. Cut the “shut the fuck up”, the one or other “fuck” (but not all, some need to be there for emphasis), done. It’s the real personal shit, the “should be aborted retroactively” stuff, that he cut out. “Obvious garbage and idiocy” is a technical term, programmers apply it to their own work all the time. Compilers are more technical in their language but we know what they mean.\n \n And was this mail, seen in its total impact, a hardship? He went down hard, yes, and thousands upon thousands of Linux *users* breathed a sigh of relief, seeing that Mauro’s attitude towards userland doesn’t fly.\n \n The hardest-hitting sentence in that mail is actually “You have shown yourself to not be competent in this issue”. Absolutely devastating. Taking context into account it’s the equivalent of telling a professional cook that their ingredients suck, what they did with them sucks, and most of all that the gall which which they claimed that the customer is wrong about their dinner sucking is completely, and utterly, unprofessional.\n \n Of course that’s hard on Mauro. There’s no way to tell someone about such an epic cock-up without being hard. But not going that far, avoiding that hardship for some notion of civility, now that would be right-out cruel. 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If anything, then an idiot (indirectly, by saying “I don’t want to hear that kind of garbage and idiocy from a kernel maintainer again”.\n \n How many of the people complaining about the mail being abusive or whatnot actually read it. 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I vastly prefer an angry-sounding takedown over a passive aggressive takedown and a takedown Mauro definitely deserved because his code was, in fact, utter shite, *and that as a maintainer*. This isn’t “oh he’s a noob he doesn’t know how the kernel works” type of territory. Also note that this happened *after* he had been told what’s up in a neutral and factual way: Linus, even in his most management by perkele days, never made those things the first reply to anything. So Mauro got his chance to spot that he fucked up and correct his approach, he didn’t, therefore, it has to be said loudly. Simple as that.\n \n Also, no “you should be aborted retroactively” in sight anywhere. Yeah that stuff wasn’t necessary even though everyone with an ounce of social intelligence should readily spot that those insults were always so over the top as to be obviously humorous. 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I vastly prefer an angry-sounding takedown over a passive aggressive takedown and a takedown Mauro definitely deserved because his code was, in fact, utter shite, *and that as a maintainer*. This isn’t “oh he’s a noob he doesn’t know how the kernel works” type of territory. Also note that this happened *after* he had been told what’s up in a neutral and factual way: Linus, even in his most management by perkele days, never made those things the first reply to anything. So Mauro got his chance to spot that he fucked up and correct his approach, he didn’t, therefore, it has to be said loudly. Simple as that.\n \n Also, no “you should be aborted retroactively” in sight anywhere. Yeah that stuff wasn’t necessary even though everyone with an ounce of social intelligence should readily spot that those insults were always so over the top as to be obviously humorous. 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I have no idea where your line for behaviour to be deemed acceptable actually is.\n \n IMO, no, Linus wasn’t a dick. He called out a specific attitude and behaviour which Mauro is not supposed to show in his role as maintainer. What about Mauro being a dick because he went in all self-righteous like “this is a bug in pulseaudio”?\n \n If you were a restaurant manager, and a server told a customer that he’s not going to serve beer with steak but only wine because “drinking beer with steak is obviously wrong”, what would you do? Chew them out, of course. It’s way out of line. This isn’t Linus exploding over nothing just to bully someone, that’s a thing he has *never* done.\n \n If you want someone toxic to complain about in the FOSS space pick Lennart Poettering, the kind of guy who replies to “We’d like to be able to disable various features to keep things small” with “why do you hate disabled people they need accessibility”. More generally speaking: Focussing on tone never ends up well. You can be incredibly toxic in the most flowery of idioms. """ +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 11 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701959697 {#1619 : 2023-12-07 15:34:57.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@feddylemmy@lemmy.world" "@barsoap@lemm.ee" "@oatscoop@midwest.social" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1687 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1689 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1691 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1795 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1711 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1611 …} -id: 206639 -bodyTs: "'abl':178 'accept':33 'access':196 'actual':34 'argument':19 'assert':5 'attitud':48 'beer':103,111 'behaviour':29,50 'bug':81 'bulli':141 'call':44 'chew':121 'complain':157 'cours':125 'custom':95 'd':174 'deem':32 'dick':3,42,68 'disabl':180,192 'done':150 'drink':110 'end':204 'explod':136 'featur':182 'floweri':215 'focuss':200 'foss':161 'general':198 'go':100 'guy':169 'hate':191 'hell':12 'idea':24 'idiom':217 'imo':36 'incred':210 'isn':133 'keep':184 'kind':167 'lennart':164 'lift':16 'like':77,175 'line':27,131 'linus':38,135 'lot':14 'maintain':62 'manag':89 'mauro':52,65 'need':195 'never':149,203 'noth':138 'obvious':115 'peopl':193 'pick':163 'poetter':165 'pulseaudio':83 'repli':171 'restaur':88 'righteous':76 'role':60 'self':75 'self-right':74 'serv':102 'server':92 'show':57 'small':186 'someon':142,154 'space':162 'speak':199 'specif':47 'steak':105,113 'suppos':55 'term':8 'thing':146,185 'told':93 'tone':202 'toxic':155,211 'various':181 'want':153 'wasn':39 'way':128 'weasel':7 'well':206 'went':71 'wine':108 'would':118 'wrong':116" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7085819" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701959697 {#1702 : 2023-12-07 15:34:57.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206639 } 4 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1628 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1626 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +body: "Yep this is lemmy not reddit. Switcharoos with actual substance and everyone is way more humble." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 4 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701962246 {#1630 : 2023-12-07 16:17:26.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@feddylemmy@lemmy.world" "@Windex007@lemmy.world" "@interceder270@lemmy.world" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1599 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1625 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1617 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1725 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1722 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1726 …} -id: 206790 -bodyTs: "'actual':9 'everyon':12 'humbl':16 'lemmi':4 'reddit':6 'substanc':10 'switcharoo':7 'way':14 'yep':1" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7087266" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701962246 {#1629 : 2023-12-07 16:17:26.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206790 } 3 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1737 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1734 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +body: """ > and being abusive\n \n There’s it again. What, precisely, is it that makes Linus’ comment “abusive”? Is he gaslighting? Is he attacking Mauro over what he is? All I see is calling out, harshly, what Mauro *did*, behaviour that actually occurred and that is not acceptable and that Mauro *knows* is not acceptable. “We do not break userspace” is the rule #1 of Linux development, Mauro ignored it *and* was a dick about it.\n \n Or do you disagree with the *tone* of the whole thing. Things like “Shut up” instead of “This is not up for discussion”. If so, then please for the love of the gods please shut up. """ +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 6 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701968575 {#1736 : 2023-12-07 18:02:55.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@feddylemmy@lemmy.world" "@barsoap@lemm.ee" "@oatscoop@midwest.social" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1732 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1735 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1729 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1719 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1714 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1720 …} -id: 207200 -bodyTs: "'1':62 'abus':3,16 'accept':46,53 'actual':40 'attack':22 'behaviour':38 'break':57 'call':32 'comment':15 'develop':65 'dick':72 'disagre':78 'discuss':97 'gaslight':19 'god':107 'harsh':34 'ignor':67 'instead':90 'know':50 'like':87 'linus':14 'linux':64 'love':104 'make':13 'mauro':23,36,49,66 'occur':41 'pleas':101,108 'precis':9 'rule':61 'see':30 'shut':88,109 'thing':85,86 'tone':81 'userspac':58 'whole':84" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7090782" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701968575 {#1730 : 2023-12-07 18:02:55.0 +01:00 } +"title": 207200 } 2 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1740 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1707 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1559 …} +body: "I just wish for all of us to become more accustomed to working on ourselves instead of projecting the need to develop virtue on others. Linus actually did it, doesn’t mean that he was an asshole before. Brash, sure, crass, yes, but actual assholes don’t calm down as easily." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 0 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701981074 {#1717 : 2023-12-07 21:31:14.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@jose1324@lemmy.world" "@redhat" "@Synthead@lemmy.world" "@barsoap@lemm.ee" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2465 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2463 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2411 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2422 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2458 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2456 …} -id: 208075 -bodyTs: "'accustom':11 'actual':27,44 'asshol':37,45 'becom':9 'brash':39 'calm':48 'crass':41 'develop':22 'doesn':30 'easili':51 'instead':16 'linus':26 'mean':32 'need':20 'other':25 'project':18 'sure':40 'us':7 'virtu':23 'wish':3 'work':13 'yes':42" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7097925" +editedAt: DateTimeImmutable @1703376112 {#1739 : 2023-12-24 01:01:52.0 +01:00 } +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701981074 {#1741 : 2023-12-07 21:31:14.0 +01:00 } +"title": 208075 } 1 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#2454 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#2455 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1559 …} +body: """ Current-day Linus wouldn’t react much differently. Cut the “shut the fuck up”, the one or other “fuck” (but not all, some need to be there for emphasis), done. It’s the real personal shit, the “should be aborted retroactively” stuff, that he cut out. “Obvious garbage and idiocy” is a technical term, programmers apply it to their own work all the time. Compilers are more technical in their language but we know what they mean.\n \n And was this mail, seen in its total impact, a hardship? He went down hard, yes, and thousands upon thousands of Linux *users* breathed a sigh of relief, seeing that Mauro’s attitude towards userland doesn’t fly.\n \n The hardest-hitting sentence in that mail is actually “You have shown yourself to not be competent in this issue”. Absolutely devastating. Taking context into account it’s the equivalent of telling a professional cook that their ingredients suck, what they did with them sucks, and most of all that the gall which which they claimed that the customer is wrong about their dinner sucking is completely, and utterly, unprofessional.\n \n Of course that’s hard on Mauro. There’s no way to tell someone about such an epic cock-up without being hard. But not going that far, avoiding that hardship for some notion of civility, now that would be right-out cruel. 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If anything, then an idiot (indirectly, by saying “I don’t want to hear that kind of garbage and idiocy from a kernel maintainer again”.\n \n How many of the people complaining about the mail being abusive or whatnot actually read it. 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Mauro gets paid to work on the kernel and is not a noob who doesn’t know better, either, he’s a maintainer who fucked up basic maintenance." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 15 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701954818 {#1572 : 2023-12-07 14:13:38.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@jose1324@lemmy.world" "@redhat" "@Synthead@lemmy.world" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1548 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1554 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1556 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1555 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1620 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1604 …} -id: 206422 -bodyTs: "'address':8 'basic':39 'better':30 'doesn':27 'either':31 'fuck':37 'get':14 'kernel':20 'know':29 'maintain':35 'mainten':40 'mauro':13 'messag':4 'might':11 'noob':25 'notic':12 'paid':15 'redhat':7 'work':17" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7083443" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701954818 {#1563 : 2023-12-07 14:13:38.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206422 } "showEntryTitle" => false "dateAsUrl" => true "showMagazineName" => false ] |
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---\n \n Sister communities:* [LemmyMemes](https://lemmy.world/c/memes@lemmy.world): Memes * [LemmyShitpost](https://lemmy.world/c/lemmyshitpost): Anything and everything goes. * [RISA](https://startrek.website/c/risa): Star Trek memes and shitposts\n \n Community rules1. Follow the site-wide rules and [code of conduct](https://join-lemmy.org/docs/code_of_conduct.html)2. Be civil 3. Post Linux-related content 4. No recent reposts Please report posts and comments that break these rules! 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I vastly prefer an angry-sounding takedown over a passive aggressive takedown and a takedown Mauro definitely deserved because his code was, in fact, utter shite, *and that as a maintainer*. This isn’t “oh he’s a noob he doesn’t know how the kernel works” type of territory. Also note that this happened *after* he had been told what’s up in a neutral and factual way: Linus, even in his most management by perkele days, never made those things the first reply to anything. So Mauro got his chance to spot that he fucked up and correct his approach, he didn’t, therefore, it has to be said loudly. Simple as that.\n \n Also, no “you should be aborted retroactively” in sight anywhere. Yeah that stuff wasn’t necessary even though everyone with an ounce of social intelligence should readily spot that those insults were always so over the top as to be obviously humorous. """ +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 40 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701954766 {#1438 : 2023-12-07 14:12:46.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@feddylemmy@lemmy.world" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1651 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1652 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1650 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1671 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1568 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1560 …} -id: 206416 -bodyTs: "'abort':127 'aggress':17 'also':57,122 'alway':154 'angri':11 'angry-sound':10 'anyth':93 'anywher':131 'approach':108 'chanc':98 'code':27 'complet':4 'correct':106 'day':84 'definit':23 'deserv':24 'didn':110 'doesn':47 'even':77,138 'everyon':140 'fact':30 'factual':74 'fine':5 'first':90 'fuck':103 'got':96 'happen':61 'humor':163 'insult':152 'intellig':146 'isn':39 'kernel':52 'know':49 'linus':76 'loud':118 'made':86 'maintain':37 'manag':81 'mauro':22,95 'nah':1 'necessari':137 'neutral':72 'never':85 'noob':45 'note':58 'obvious':162 'oh':41 'ounc':143 'passiv':16 'perkel':83 'prefer':8 'readili':148 'repli':91 'retroact':128 'said':117 'shite':32 'sight':130 'simpl':119 'social':145 'sound':12 'spot':100,149 'stuff':134 'takedown':13,18,21 'territori':56 'therefor':112 'thing':88 'though':139 'told':66 'top':158 'type':54 'utter':31 'vast':7 'wasn':135 'way':75 'work':53 'yeah':132" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7083419" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701954766 {#1700 : 2023-12-07 14:12:46.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206416 } 6 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1562} 5 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1701 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1683 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +body: """ “being a dick” and “assertive” are weasel terms which do a hell a lot of lifting in your argument there. I have no idea where your line for behaviour to be deemed acceptable actually is.\n \n IMO, no, Linus wasn’t a dick. He called out a specific attitude and behaviour which Mauro is not supposed to show in his role as maintainer. What about Mauro being a dick because he went in all self-righteous like “this is a bug in pulseaudio”?\n \n If you were a restaurant manager, and a server told a customer that he’s not going to serve beer with steak but only wine because “drinking beer with steak is obviously wrong”, what would you do? Chew them out, of course. It’s way out of line. This isn’t Linus exploding over nothing just to bully someone, that’s a thing he has *never* done.\n \n If you want someone toxic to complain about in the FOSS space pick Lennart Poettering, the kind of guy who replies to “We’d like to be able to disable various features to keep things small” with “why do you hate disabled people they need accessibility”. More generally speaking: Focussing on tone never ends up well. You can be incredibly toxic in the most flowery of idioms. """ +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 11 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701959697 {#1619 : 2023-12-07 15:34:57.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@feddylemmy@lemmy.world" "@barsoap@lemm.ee" "@oatscoop@midwest.social" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1687 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1689 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1691 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1795 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1711 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1611 …} -id: 206639 -bodyTs: "'abl':178 'accept':33 'access':196 'actual':34 'argument':19 'assert':5 'attitud':48 'beer':103,111 'behaviour':29,50 'bug':81 'bulli':141 'call':44 'chew':121 'complain':157 'cours':125 'custom':95 'd':174 'deem':32 'dick':3,42,68 'disabl':180,192 'done':150 'drink':110 'end':204 'explod':136 'featur':182 'floweri':215 'focuss':200 'foss':161 'general':198 'go':100 'guy':169 'hate':191 'hell':12 'idea':24 'idiom':217 'imo':36 'incred':210 'isn':133 'keep':184 'kind':167 'lennart':164 'lift':16 'like':77,175 'line':27,131 'linus':38,135 'lot':14 'maintain':62 'manag':89 'mauro':52,65 'need':195 'never':149,203 'noth':138 'obvious':115 'peopl':193 'pick':163 'poetter':165 'pulseaudio':83 'repli':171 'restaur':88 'righteous':76 'role':60 'self':75 'self-right':74 'serv':102 'server':92 'show':57 'small':186 'someon':142,154 'space':162 'speak':199 'specif':47 'steak':105,113 'suppos':55 'term':8 'thing':146,185 'told':93 'tone':202 'toxic':155,211 'various':181 'want':153 'wasn':39 'way':128 'weasel':7 'well':206 'went':71 'wine':108 'would':118 'wrong':116" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7085819" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701959697 {#1702 : 2023-12-07 15:34:57.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206639 } 4 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1628 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1626 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +body: "Yep this is lemmy not reddit. Switcharoos with actual substance and everyone is way more humble." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 4 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701962246 {#1630 : 2023-12-07 16:17:26.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@feddylemmy@lemmy.world" "@Windex007@lemmy.world" "@interceder270@lemmy.world" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1599 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1625 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1617 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1725 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1722 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1726 …} -id: 206790 -bodyTs: "'actual':9 'everyon':12 'humbl':16 'lemmi':4 'reddit':6 'substanc':10 'switcharoo':7 'way':14 'yep':1" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7087266" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701962246 {#1629 : 2023-12-07 16:17:26.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206790 } 3 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1737 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1734 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +body: """ > and being abusive\n \n There’s it again. What, precisely, is it that makes Linus’ comment “abusive”? Is he gaslighting? Is he attacking Mauro over what he is? All I see is calling out, harshly, what Mauro *did*, behaviour that actually occurred and that is not acceptable and that Mauro *knows* is not acceptable. “We do not break userspace” is the rule #1 of Linux development, Mauro ignored it *and* was a dick about it.\n \n Or do you disagree with the *tone* of the whole thing. Things like “Shut up” instead of “This is not up for discussion”. If so, then please for the love of the gods please shut up. """ +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 6 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701968575 {#1736 : 2023-12-07 18:02:55.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@feddylemmy@lemmy.world" "@barsoap@lemm.ee" "@oatscoop@midwest.social" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1732 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1735 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1729 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1719 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1714 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1720 …} -id: 207200 -bodyTs: "'1':62 'abus':3,16 'accept':46,53 'actual':40 'attack':22 'behaviour':38 'break':57 'call':32 'comment':15 'develop':65 'dick':72 'disagre':78 'discuss':97 'gaslight':19 'god':107 'harsh':34 'ignor':67 'instead':90 'know':50 'like':87 'linus':14 'linux':64 'love':104 'make':13 'mauro':23,36,49,66 'occur':41 'pleas':101,108 'precis':9 'rule':61 'see':30 'shut':88,109 'thing':85,86 'tone':81 'userspac':58 'whole':84" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7090782" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701968575 {#1730 : 2023-12-07 18:02:55.0 +01:00 } +"title": 207200 } 2 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1740 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1707 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1559 …} +body: "I just wish for all of us to become more accustomed to working on ourselves instead of projecting the need to develop virtue on others. Linus actually did it, doesn’t mean that he was an asshole before. Brash, sure, crass, yes, but actual assholes don’t calm down as easily." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 0 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701981074 {#1717 : 2023-12-07 21:31:14.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@jose1324@lemmy.world" "@redhat" "@Synthead@lemmy.world" "@barsoap@lemm.ee" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2465 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2463 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2411 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2422 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2458 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2456 …} -id: 208075 -bodyTs: "'accustom':11 'actual':27,44 'asshol':37,45 'becom':9 'brash':39 'calm':48 'crass':41 'develop':22 'doesn':30 'easili':51 'instead':16 'linus':26 'mean':32 'need':20 'other':25 'project':18 'sure':40 'us':7 'virtu':23 'wish':3 'work':13 'yes':42" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7097925" +editedAt: DateTimeImmutable @1703376112 {#1739 : 2023-12-24 01:01:52.0 +01:00 } +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701981074 {#1741 : 2023-12-07 21:31:14.0 +01:00 } +"title": 208075 } 1 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#2454 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#2455 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1559 …} +body: """ Current-day Linus wouldn’t react much differently. Cut the “shut the fuck up”, the one or other “fuck” (but not all, some need to be there for emphasis), done. It’s the real personal shit, the “should be aborted retroactively” stuff, that he cut out. “Obvious garbage and idiocy” is a technical term, programmers apply it to their own work all the time. Compilers are more technical in their language but we know what they mean.\n \n And was this mail, seen in its total impact, a hardship? He went down hard, yes, and thousands upon thousands of Linux *users* breathed a sigh of relief, seeing that Mauro’s attitude towards userland doesn’t fly.\n \n The hardest-hitting sentence in that mail is actually “You have shown yourself to not be competent in this issue”. Absolutely devastating. Taking context into account it’s the equivalent of telling a professional cook that their ingredients suck, what they did with them sucks, and most of all that the gall which which they claimed that the customer is wrong about their dinner sucking is completely, and utterly, unprofessional.\n \n Of course that’s hard on Mauro. There’s no way to tell someone about such an epic cock-up without being hard. But not going that far, avoiding that hardship for some notion of civility, now that would be right-out cruel. 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[LemmyMemes](https://lemmy.world/c/memes@lemmy.world): Memes * [LemmyShitpost](https://lemmy.world/c/lemmyshitpost): Anything and everything goes. * [RISA](https://startrek.website/c/risa): Star Trek memes and shitposts\n \n Community rules1. Follow the site-wide rules and [code of conduct](https://join-lemmy.org/docs/code_of_conduct.html)2. Be civil 3. Post Linux-related content 4. No recent reposts Please report posts and comments that break these rules! 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I vastly prefer an angry-sounding takedown over a passive aggressive takedown and a takedown Mauro definitely deserved because his code was, in fact, utter shite, *and that as a maintainer*. This isn’t “oh he’s a noob he doesn’t know how the kernel works” type of territory. Also note that this happened *after* he had been told what’s up in a neutral and factual way: Linus, even in his most management by perkele days, never made those things the first reply to anything. So Mauro got his chance to spot that he fucked up and correct his approach, he didn’t, therefore, it has to be said loudly. Simple as that.\n \n Also, no “you should be aborted retroactively” in sight anywhere. Yeah that stuff wasn’t necessary even though everyone with an ounce of social intelligence should readily spot that those insults were always so over the top as to be obviously humorous. """ +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 40 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701954766 {#1438 : 2023-12-07 14:12:46.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@feddylemmy@lemmy.world" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1651 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1652 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1650 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1671 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1568 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1560 …} -id: 206416 -bodyTs: "'abort':127 'aggress':17 'also':57,122 'alway':154 'angri':11 'angry-sound':10 'anyth':93 'anywher':131 'approach':108 'chanc':98 'code':27 'complet':4 'correct':106 'day':84 'definit':23 'deserv':24 'didn':110 'doesn':47 'even':77,138 'everyon':140 'fact':30 'factual':74 'fine':5 'first':90 'fuck':103 'got':96 'happen':61 'humor':163 'insult':152 'intellig':146 'isn':39 'kernel':52 'know':49 'linus':76 'loud':118 'made':86 'maintain':37 'manag':81 'mauro':22,95 'nah':1 'necessari':137 'neutral':72 'never':85 'noob':45 'note':58 'obvious':162 'oh':41 'ounc':143 'passiv':16 'perkel':83 'prefer':8 'readili':148 'repli':91 'retroact':128 'said':117 'shite':32 'sight':130 'simpl':119 'social':145 'sound':12 'spot':100,149 'stuff':134 'takedown':13,18,21 'territori':56 'therefor':112 'thing':88 'though':139 'told':66 'top':158 'type':54 'utter':31 'vast':7 'wasn':135 'way':75 'work':53 'yeah':132" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7083419" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701954766 {#1700 : 2023-12-07 14:12:46.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206416 } 6 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1562} 5 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1701 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1683 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +body: """ “being a dick” and “assertive” are weasel terms which do a hell a lot of lifting in your argument there. I have no idea where your line for behaviour to be deemed acceptable actually is.\n \n IMO, no, Linus wasn’t a dick. He called out a specific attitude and behaviour which Mauro is not supposed to show in his role as maintainer. What about Mauro being a dick because he went in all self-righteous like “this is a bug in pulseaudio”?\n \n If you were a restaurant manager, and a server told a customer that he’s not going to serve beer with steak but only wine because “drinking beer with steak is obviously wrong”, what would you do? Chew them out, of course. It’s way out of line. This isn’t Linus exploding over nothing just to bully someone, that’s a thing he has *never* done.\n \n If you want someone toxic to complain about in the FOSS space pick Lennart Poettering, the kind of guy who replies to “We’d like to be able to disable various features to keep things small” with “why do you hate disabled people they need accessibility”. More generally speaking: Focussing on tone never ends up well. You can be incredibly toxic in the most flowery of idioms. """ +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 11 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701959697 {#1619 : 2023-12-07 15:34:57.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@feddylemmy@lemmy.world" "@barsoap@lemm.ee" "@oatscoop@midwest.social" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1687 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1689 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1691 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1795 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1711 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1611 …} -id: 206639 -bodyTs: "'abl':178 'accept':33 'access':196 'actual':34 'argument':19 'assert':5 'attitud':48 'beer':103,111 'behaviour':29,50 'bug':81 'bulli':141 'call':44 'chew':121 'complain':157 'cours':125 'custom':95 'd':174 'deem':32 'dick':3,42,68 'disabl':180,192 'done':150 'drink':110 'end':204 'explod':136 'featur':182 'floweri':215 'focuss':200 'foss':161 'general':198 'go':100 'guy':169 'hate':191 'hell':12 'idea':24 'idiom':217 'imo':36 'incred':210 'isn':133 'keep':184 'kind':167 'lennart':164 'lift':16 'like':77,175 'line':27,131 'linus':38,135 'lot':14 'maintain':62 'manag':89 'mauro':52,65 'need':195 'never':149,203 'noth':138 'obvious':115 'peopl':193 'pick':163 'poetter':165 'pulseaudio':83 'repli':171 'restaur':88 'righteous':76 'role':60 'self':75 'self-right':74 'serv':102 'server':92 'show':57 'small':186 'someon':142,154 'space':162 'speak':199 'specif':47 'steak':105,113 'suppos':55 'term':8 'thing':146,185 'told':93 'tone':202 'toxic':155,211 'various':181 'want':153 'wasn':39 'way':128 'weasel':7 'well':206 'went':71 'wine':108 'would':118 'wrong':116" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7085819" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701959697 {#1702 : 2023-12-07 15:34:57.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206639 } 4 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1628 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1626 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +body: "Yep this is lemmy not reddit. Switcharoos with actual substance and everyone is way more humble." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 4 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701962246 {#1630 : 2023-12-07 16:17:26.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@feddylemmy@lemmy.world" "@Windex007@lemmy.world" "@interceder270@lemmy.world" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1599 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1625 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1617 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1725 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1722 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1726 …} -id: 206790 -bodyTs: "'actual':9 'everyon':12 'humbl':16 'lemmi':4 'reddit':6 'substanc':10 'switcharoo':7 'way':14 'yep':1" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7087266" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701962246 {#1629 : 2023-12-07 16:17:26.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206790 } 3 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1737 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1734 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +body: """ > and being abusive\n \n There’s it again. What, precisely, is it that makes Linus’ comment “abusive”? Is he gaslighting? Is he attacking Mauro over what he is? All I see is calling out, harshly, what Mauro *did*, behaviour that actually occurred and that is not acceptable and that Mauro *knows* is not acceptable. “We do not break userspace” is the rule #1 of Linux development, Mauro ignored it *and* was a dick about it.\n \n Or do you disagree with the *tone* of the whole thing. Things like “Shut up” instead of “This is not up for discussion”. If so, then please for the love of the gods please shut up. """ +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 6 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701968575 {#1736 : 2023-12-07 18:02:55.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@feddylemmy@lemmy.world" "@barsoap@lemm.ee" "@oatscoop@midwest.social" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1732 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1735 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1729 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1719 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1714 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1720 …} -id: 207200 -bodyTs: "'1':62 'abus':3,16 'accept':46,53 'actual':40 'attack':22 'behaviour':38 'break':57 'call':32 'comment':15 'develop':65 'dick':72 'disagre':78 'discuss':97 'gaslight':19 'god':107 'harsh':34 'ignor':67 'instead':90 'know':50 'like':87 'linus':14 'linux':64 'love':104 'make':13 'mauro':23,36,49,66 'occur':41 'pleas':101,108 'precis':9 'rule':61 'see':30 'shut':88,109 'thing':85,86 'tone':81 'userspac':58 'whole':84" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7090782" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701968575 {#1730 : 2023-12-07 18:02:55.0 +01:00 } +"title": 207200 } 2 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1740 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1707 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1559 …} +body: "I just wish for all of us to become more accustomed to working on ourselves instead of projecting the need to develop virtue on others. Linus actually did it, doesn’t mean that he was an asshole before. Brash, sure, crass, yes, but actual assholes don’t calm down as easily." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 0 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701981074 {#1717 : 2023-12-07 21:31:14.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@jose1324@lemmy.world" "@redhat" "@Synthead@lemmy.world" "@barsoap@lemm.ee" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2465 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2463 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2411 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2422 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2458 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2456 …} -id: 208075 -bodyTs: "'accustom':11 'actual':27,44 'asshol':37,45 'becom':9 'brash':39 'calm':48 'crass':41 'develop':22 'doesn':30 'easili':51 'instead':16 'linus':26 'mean':32 'need':20 'other':25 'project':18 'sure':40 'us':7 'virtu':23 'wish':3 'work':13 'yes':42" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7097925" +editedAt: DateTimeImmutable @1703376112 {#1739 : 2023-12-24 01:01:52.0 +01:00 } +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701981074 {#1741 : 2023-12-07 21:31:14.0 +01:00 } +"title": 208075 } 1 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#2454 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#2455 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1559 …} +body: """ Current-day Linus wouldn’t react much differently. Cut the “shut the fuck up”, the one or other “fuck” (but not all, some need to be there for emphasis), done. It’s the real personal shit, the “should be aborted retroactively” stuff, that he cut out. “Obvious garbage and idiocy” is a technical term, programmers apply it to their own work all the time. Compilers are more technical in their language but we know what they mean.\n \n And was this mail, seen in its total impact, a hardship? He went down hard, yes, and thousands upon thousands of Linux *users* breathed a sigh of relief, seeing that Mauro’s attitude towards userland doesn’t fly.\n \n The hardest-hitting sentence in that mail is actually “You have shown yourself to not be competent in this issue”. Absolutely devastating. Taking context into account it’s the equivalent of telling a professional cook that their ingredients suck, what they did with them sucks, and most of all that the gall which which they claimed that the customer is wrong about their dinner sucking is completely, and utterly, unprofessional.\n \n Of course that’s hard on Mauro. There’s no way to tell someone about such an epic cock-up without being hard. But not going that far, avoiding that hardship for some notion of civility, now that would be right-out cruel. 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If anything, then an idiot (indirectly, by saying “I don’t want to hear that kind of garbage and idiocy from a kernel maintainer again”.\n \n How many of the people complaining about the mail being abusive or whatnot actually read it. 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Mauro gets paid to work on the kernel and is not a noob who doesn’t know better, either, he’s a maintainer who fucked up basic maintenance." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 15 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701954818 {#1572 : 2023-12-07 14:13:38.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@jose1324@lemmy.world" "@redhat" "@Synthead@lemmy.world" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1548 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1554 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1556 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1555 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1620 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1604 …} -id: 206422 -bodyTs: "'address':8 'basic':39 'better':30 'doesn':27 'either':31 'fuck':37 'get':14 'kernel':20 'know':29 'maintain':35 'mainten':40 'mauro':13 'messag':4 'might':11 'noob':25 'notic':12 'paid':15 'redhat':7 'work':17" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7083443" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701954818 {#1563 : 2023-12-07 14:13:38.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206422 } ] |
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I vastly prefer an angry-sounding takedown over a passive aggressive takedown and a takedown Mauro definitely deserved because his code was, in fact, utter shite, *and that as a maintainer*. This isn’t “oh he’s a noob he doesn’t know how the kernel works” type of territory. Also note that this happened *after* he had been told what’s up in a neutral and factual way: Linus, even in his most management by perkele days, never made those things the first reply to anything. So Mauro got his chance to spot that he fucked up and correct his approach, he didn’t, therefore, it has to be said loudly. Simple as that.\n \n Also, no “you should be aborted retroactively” in sight anywhere. Yeah that stuff wasn’t necessary even though everyone with an ounce of social intelligence should readily spot that those insults were always so over the top as to be obviously humorous. 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I have no idea where your line for behaviour to be deemed acceptable actually is.\n \n IMO, no, Linus wasn’t a dick. He called out a specific attitude and behaviour which Mauro is not supposed to show in his role as maintainer. What about Mauro being a dick because he went in all self-righteous like “this is a bug in pulseaudio”?\n \n If you were a restaurant manager, and a server told a customer that he’s not going to serve beer with steak but only wine because “drinking beer with steak is obviously wrong”, what would you do? Chew them out, of course. It’s way out of line. This isn’t Linus exploding over nothing just to bully someone, that’s a thing he has *never* done.\n \n If you want someone toxic to complain about in the FOSS space pick Lennart Poettering, the kind of guy who replies to “We’d like to be able to disable various features to keep things small” with “why do you hate disabled people they need accessibility”. More generally speaking: Focussing on tone never ends up well. You can be incredibly toxic in the most flowery of idioms. 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Switcharoos with actual substance and everyone is way more humble." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 4 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701962246 {#1630 : 2023-12-07 16:17:26.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@feddylemmy@lemmy.world" "@Windex007@lemmy.world" "@interceder270@lemmy.world" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1599 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1625 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1617 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1725 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1722 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1726 …} -id: 206790 -bodyTs: "'actual':9 'everyon':12 'humbl':16 'lemmi':4 'reddit':6 'substanc':10 'switcharoo':7 'way':14 'yep':1" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7087266" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701962246 {#1629 : 2023-12-07 16:17:26.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206790 } 3 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1737 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1734 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +body: """ > and being abusive\n \n There’s it again. What, precisely, is it that makes Linus’ comment “abusive”? Is he gaslighting? Is he attacking Mauro over what he is? All I see is calling out, harshly, what Mauro *did*, behaviour that actually occurred and that is not acceptable and that Mauro *knows* is not acceptable. “We do not break userspace” is the rule #1 of Linux development, Mauro ignored it *and* was a dick about it.\n \n Or do you disagree with the *tone* of the whole thing. Things like “Shut up” instead of “This is not up for discussion”. If so, then please for the love of the gods please shut up. 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Linus actually did it, doesn’t mean that he was an asshole before. Brash, sure, crass, yes, but actual assholes don’t calm down as easily." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 0 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701981074 {#1717 : 2023-12-07 21:31:14.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@jose1324@lemmy.world" "@redhat" "@Synthead@lemmy.world" "@barsoap@lemm.ee" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2465 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2463 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2411 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2422 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2458 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2456 …} -id: 208075 -bodyTs: "'accustom':11 'actual':27,44 'asshol':37,45 'becom':9 'brash':39 'calm':48 'crass':41 'develop':22 'doesn':30 'easili':51 'instead':16 'linus':26 'mean':32 'need':20 'other':25 'project':18 'sure':40 'us':7 'virtu':23 'wish':3 'work':13 'yes':42" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7097925" +editedAt: DateTimeImmutable @1703376112 {#1739 : 2023-12-24 01:01:52.0 +01:00 } +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701981074 {#1741 : 2023-12-07 21:31:14.0 +01:00 } +"title": 208075 } 1 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#2454 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#2455 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1559 …} +body: """ Current-day Linus wouldn’t react much differently. Cut the “shut the fuck up”, the one or other “fuck” (but not all, some need to be there for emphasis), done. It’s the real personal shit, the “should be aborted retroactively” stuff, that he cut out. “Obvious garbage and idiocy” is a technical term, programmers apply it to their own work all the time. Compilers are more technical in their language but we know what they mean.\n \n And was this mail, seen in its total impact, a hardship? He went down hard, yes, and thousands upon thousands of Linux *users* breathed a sigh of relief, seeing that Mauro’s attitude towards userland doesn’t fly.\n \n The hardest-hitting sentence in that mail is actually “You have shown yourself to not be competent in this issue”. Absolutely devastating. Taking context into account it’s the equivalent of telling a professional cook that their ingredients suck, what they did with them sucks, and most of all that the gall which which they claimed that the customer is wrong about their dinner sucking is completely, and utterly, unprofessional.\n \n Of course that’s hard on Mauro. There’s no way to tell someone about such an epic cock-up without being hard. But not going that far, avoiding that hardship for some notion of civility, now that would be right-out cruel. 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If anything, then an idiot (indirectly, by saying “I don’t want to hear that kind of garbage and idiocy from a kernel maintainer again”.\n \n How many of the people complaining about the mail being abusive or whatnot actually read it. 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Mauro gets paid to work on the kernel and is not a noob who doesn’t know better, either, he’s a maintainer who fucked up basic maintenance." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 15 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701954818 {#1572 : 2023-12-07 14:13:38.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@jose1324@lemmy.world" "@redhat" "@Synthead@lemmy.world" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1548 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1554 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1556 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1555 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1620 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1604 …} -id: 206422 -bodyTs: "'address':8 'basic':39 'better':30 'doesn':27 'either':31 'fuck':37 'get':14 'kernel':20 'know':29 'maintain':35 'mainten':40 'mauro':13 'messag':4 'might':11 'noob':25 'notic':12 'paid':15 'redhat':7 'work':17" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7083443" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701954818 {#1563 : 2023-12-07 14:13:38.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206422 } +formDest: "entry_comment" +showDownvote: true -cache: Symfony\Component\Cache\Adapter\TraceableTagAwareAdapter {#600 …} } |
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Follow the site-wide rules and [code of conduct](https://join-lemmy.org/docs/code_of_conduct.html)2. Be civil 3. Post Linux-related content 4. No recent reposts Please report posts and comments that break these rules! 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I vastly prefer an angry-sounding takedown over a passive aggressive takedown and a takedown Mauro definitely deserved because his code was, in fact, utter shite, *and that as a maintainer*. This isn’t “oh he’s a noob he doesn’t know how the kernel works” type of territory. Also note that this happened *after* he had been told what’s up in a neutral and factual way: Linus, even in his most management by perkele days, never made those things the first reply to anything. So Mauro got his chance to spot that he fucked up and correct his approach, he didn’t, therefore, it has to be said loudly. Simple as that.\n \n Also, no “you should be aborted retroactively” in sight anywhere. Yeah that stuff wasn’t necessary even though everyone with an ounce of social intelligence should readily spot that those insults were always so over the top as to be obviously humorous. 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I have no idea where your line for behaviour to be deemed acceptable actually is.\n \n IMO, no, Linus wasn’t a dick. He called out a specific attitude and behaviour which Mauro is not supposed to show in his role as maintainer. What about Mauro being a dick because he went in all self-righteous like “this is a bug in pulseaudio”?\n \n If you were a restaurant manager, and a server told a customer that he’s not going to serve beer with steak but only wine because “drinking beer with steak is obviously wrong”, what would you do? Chew them out, of course. It’s way out of line. This isn’t Linus exploding over nothing just to bully someone, that’s a thing he has *never* done.\n \n If you want someone toxic to complain about in the FOSS space pick Lennart Poettering, the kind of guy who replies to “We’d like to be able to disable various features to keep things small” with “why do you hate disabled people they need accessibility”. More generally speaking: Focussing on tone never ends up well. You can be incredibly toxic in the most flowery of idioms. """ +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 11 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701959697 {#1619 : 2023-12-07 15:34:57.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@feddylemmy@lemmy.world" "@barsoap@lemm.ee" "@oatscoop@midwest.social" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1687 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1689 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1691 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1795 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1711 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1611 …} -id: 206639 -bodyTs: "'abl':178 'accept':33 'access':196 'actual':34 'argument':19 'assert':5 'attitud':48 'beer':103,111 'behaviour':29,50 'bug':81 'bulli':141 'call':44 'chew':121 'complain':157 'cours':125 'custom':95 'd':174 'deem':32 'dick':3,42,68 'disabl':180,192 'done':150 'drink':110 'end':204 'explod':136 'featur':182 'floweri':215 'focuss':200 'foss':161 'general':198 'go':100 'guy':169 'hate':191 'hell':12 'idea':24 'idiom':217 'imo':36 'incred':210 'isn':133 'keep':184 'kind':167 'lennart':164 'lift':16 'like':77,175 'line':27,131 'linus':38,135 'lot':14 'maintain':62 'manag':89 'mauro':52,65 'need':195 'never':149,203 'noth':138 'obvious':115 'peopl':193 'pick':163 'poetter':165 'pulseaudio':83 'repli':171 'restaur':88 'righteous':76 'role':60 'self':75 'self-right':74 'serv':102 'server':92 'show':57 'small':186 'someon':142,154 'space':162 'speak':199 'specif':47 'steak':105,113 'suppos':55 'term':8 'thing':146,185 'told':93 'tone':202 'toxic':155,211 'various':181 'want':153 'wasn':39 'way':128 'weasel':7 'well':206 'went':71 'wine':108 'would':118 'wrong':116" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7085819" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701959697 {#1702 : 2023-12-07 15:34:57.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206639 } 4 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1628 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1626 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +body: "Yep this is lemmy not reddit. Switcharoos with actual substance and everyone is way more humble." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 4 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701962246 {#1630 : 2023-12-07 16:17:26.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@feddylemmy@lemmy.world" "@Windex007@lemmy.world" "@interceder270@lemmy.world" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1599 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1625 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1617 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1725 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1722 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1726 …} -id: 206790 -bodyTs: "'actual':9 'everyon':12 'humbl':16 'lemmi':4 'reddit':6 'substanc':10 'switcharoo':7 'way':14 'yep':1" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7087266" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701962246 {#1629 : 2023-12-07 16:17:26.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206790 } 3 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1737 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1734 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +body: """ > and being abusive\n \n There’s it again. What, precisely, is it that makes Linus’ comment “abusive”? Is he gaslighting? Is he attacking Mauro over what he is? All I see is calling out, harshly, what Mauro *did*, behaviour that actually occurred and that is not acceptable and that Mauro *knows* is not acceptable. “We do not break userspace” is the rule #1 of Linux development, Mauro ignored it *and* was a dick about it.\n \n Or do you disagree with the *tone* of the whole thing. Things like “Shut up” instead of “This is not up for discussion”. If so, then please for the love of the gods please shut up. 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Linus actually did it, doesn’t mean that he was an asshole before. Brash, sure, crass, yes, but actual assholes don’t calm down as easily." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 0 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701981074 {#1717 : 2023-12-07 21:31:14.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@jose1324@lemmy.world" "@redhat" "@Synthead@lemmy.world" "@barsoap@lemm.ee" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2465 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2463 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2411 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2422 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2458 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2456 …} -id: 208075 -bodyTs: "'accustom':11 'actual':27,44 'asshol':37,45 'becom':9 'brash':39 'calm':48 'crass':41 'develop':22 'doesn':30 'easili':51 'instead':16 'linus':26 'mean':32 'need':20 'other':25 'project':18 'sure':40 'us':7 'virtu':23 'wish':3 'work':13 'yes':42" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7097925" +editedAt: DateTimeImmutable @1703376112 {#1739 : 2023-12-24 01:01:52.0 +01:00 } +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701981074 {#1741 : 2023-12-07 21:31:14.0 +01:00 } +"title": 208075 } 1 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#2454 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#2455 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1559 …} +body: """ Current-day Linus wouldn’t react much differently. Cut the “shut the fuck up”, the one or other “fuck” (but not all, some need to be there for emphasis), done. It’s the real personal shit, the “should be aborted retroactively” stuff, that he cut out. “Obvious garbage and idiocy” is a technical term, programmers apply it to their own work all the time. Compilers are more technical in their language but we know what they mean.\n \n And was this mail, seen in its total impact, a hardship? He went down hard, yes, and thousands upon thousands of Linux *users* breathed a sigh of relief, seeing that Mauro’s attitude towards userland doesn’t fly.\n \n The hardest-hitting sentence in that mail is actually “You have shown yourself to not be competent in this issue”. Absolutely devastating. Taking context into account it’s the equivalent of telling a professional cook that their ingredients suck, what they did with them sucks, and most of all that the gall which which they claimed that the customer is wrong about their dinner sucking is completely, and utterly, unprofessional.\n \n Of course that’s hard on Mauro. There’s no way to tell someone about such an epic cock-up without being hard. But not going that far, avoiding that hardship for some notion of civility, now that would be right-out cruel. 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If anything, then an idiot (indirectly, by saying “I don’t want to hear that kind of garbage and idiocy from a kernel maintainer again”.\n \n How many of the people complaining about the mail being abusive or whatnot actually read it. 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Mauro gets paid to work on the kernel and is not a noob who doesn’t know better, either, he’s a maintainer who fucked up basic maintenance." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 15 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701954818 {#1572 : 2023-12-07 14:13:38.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@jose1324@lemmy.world" "@redhat" "@Synthead@lemmy.world" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1548 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1554 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1556 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1555 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1620 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1604 …} -id: 206422 -bodyTs: "'address':8 'basic':39 'better':30 'doesn':27 'either':31 'fuck':37 'get':14 'kernel':20 'know':29 'maintain':35 'mainten':40 'mauro':13 'messag':4 'might':11 'noob':25 'notic':12 'paid':15 'redhat':7 'work':17" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7083443" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701954818 {#1563 : 2023-12-07 14:13:38.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206422 } ] |
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---\n \n Sister communities:* [LemmyMemes](https://lemmy.world/c/memes@lemmy.world): Memes * [LemmyShitpost](https://lemmy.world/c/lemmyshitpost): Anything and everything goes. * [RISA](https://startrek.website/c/risa): Star Trek memes and shitposts\n \n Community rules1. Follow the site-wide rules and [code of conduct](https://join-lemmy.org/docs/code_of_conduct.html)2. Be civil 3. Post Linux-related content 4. No recent reposts Please report posts and comments that break these rules! 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I vastly prefer an angry-sounding takedown over a passive aggressive takedown and a takedown Mauro definitely deserved because his code was, in fact, utter shite, *and that as a maintainer*. This isn’t “oh he’s a noob he doesn’t know how the kernel works” type of territory. Also note that this happened *after* he had been told what’s up in a neutral and factual way: Linus, even in his most management by perkele days, never made those things the first reply to anything. So Mauro got his chance to spot that he fucked up and correct his approach, he didn’t, therefore, it has to be said loudly. Simple as that.\n \n Also, no “you should be aborted retroactively” in sight anywhere. Yeah that stuff wasn’t necessary even though everyone with an ounce of social intelligence should readily spot that those insults were always so over the top as to be obviously humorous. """ +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 40 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701954766 {#1438 : 2023-12-07 14:12:46.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@feddylemmy@lemmy.world" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1651 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1652 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1650 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1671 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1568 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1560 …} -id: 206416 -bodyTs: "'abort':127 'aggress':17 'also':57,122 'alway':154 'angri':11 'angry-sound':10 'anyth':93 'anywher':131 'approach':108 'chanc':98 'code':27 'complet':4 'correct':106 'day':84 'definit':23 'deserv':24 'didn':110 'doesn':47 'even':77,138 'everyon':140 'fact':30 'factual':74 'fine':5 'first':90 'fuck':103 'got':96 'happen':61 'humor':163 'insult':152 'intellig':146 'isn':39 'kernel':52 'know':49 'linus':76 'loud':118 'made':86 'maintain':37 'manag':81 'mauro':22,95 'nah':1 'necessari':137 'neutral':72 'never':85 'noob':45 'note':58 'obvious':162 'oh':41 'ounc':143 'passiv':16 'perkel':83 'prefer':8 'readili':148 'repli':91 'retroact':128 'said':117 'shite':32 'sight':130 'simpl':119 'social':145 'sound':12 'spot':100,149 'stuff':134 'takedown':13,18,21 'territori':56 'therefor':112 'thing':88 'though':139 'told':66 'top':158 'type':54 'utter':31 'vast':7 'wasn':135 'way':75 'work':53 'yeah':132" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7083419" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701954766 {#1700 : 2023-12-07 14:12:46.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206416 } 6 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1562} 5 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1701 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1683 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +body: """ “being a dick” and “assertive” are weasel terms which do a hell a lot of lifting in your argument there. I have no idea where your line for behaviour to be deemed acceptable actually is.\n \n IMO, no, Linus wasn’t a dick. He called out a specific attitude and behaviour which Mauro is not supposed to show in his role as maintainer. What about Mauro being a dick because he went in all self-righteous like “this is a bug in pulseaudio”?\n \n If you were a restaurant manager, and a server told a customer that he’s not going to serve beer with steak but only wine because “drinking beer with steak is obviously wrong”, what would you do? Chew them out, of course. It’s way out of line. This isn’t Linus exploding over nothing just to bully someone, that’s a thing he has *never* done.\n \n If you want someone toxic to complain about in the FOSS space pick Lennart Poettering, the kind of guy who replies to “We’d like to be able to disable various features to keep things small” with “why do you hate disabled people they need accessibility”. More generally speaking: Focussing on tone never ends up well. You can be incredibly toxic in the most flowery of idioms. 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Switcharoos with actual substance and everyone is way more humble." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 4 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701962246 {#1630 : 2023-12-07 16:17:26.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@feddylemmy@lemmy.world" "@Windex007@lemmy.world" "@interceder270@lemmy.world" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1599 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1625 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1617 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1725 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1722 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1726 …} -id: 206790 -bodyTs: "'actual':9 'everyon':12 'humbl':16 'lemmi':4 'reddit':6 'substanc':10 'switcharoo':7 'way':14 'yep':1" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7087266" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701962246 {#1629 : 2023-12-07 16:17:26.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206790 } 3 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1737 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1734 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +body: """ > and being abusive\n \n There’s it again. What, precisely, is it that makes Linus’ comment “abusive”? Is he gaslighting? Is he attacking Mauro over what he is? All I see is calling out, harshly, what Mauro *did*, behaviour that actually occurred and that is not acceptable and that Mauro *knows* is not acceptable. “We do not break userspace” is the rule #1 of Linux development, Mauro ignored it *and* was a dick about it.\n \n Or do you disagree with the *tone* of the whole thing. Things like “Shut up” instead of “This is not up for discussion”. If so, then please for the love of the gods please shut up. """ +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 6 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701968575 {#1736 : 2023-12-07 18:02:55.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@feddylemmy@lemmy.world" "@barsoap@lemm.ee" "@oatscoop@midwest.social" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1732 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1735 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1729 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1719 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1714 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1720 …} -id: 207200 -bodyTs: "'1':62 'abus':3,16 'accept':46,53 'actual':40 'attack':22 'behaviour':38 'break':57 'call':32 'comment':15 'develop':65 'dick':72 'disagre':78 'discuss':97 'gaslight':19 'god':107 'harsh':34 'ignor':67 'instead':90 'know':50 'like':87 'linus':14 'linux':64 'love':104 'make':13 'mauro':23,36,49,66 'occur':41 'pleas':101,108 'precis':9 'rule':61 'see':30 'shut':88,109 'thing':85,86 'tone':81 'userspac':58 'whole':84" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7090782" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701968575 {#1730 : 2023-12-07 18:02:55.0 +01:00 } +"title": 207200 } 2 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1740 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1707 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1559 …} +body: "I just wish for all of us to become more accustomed to working on ourselves instead of projecting the need to develop virtue on others. Linus actually did it, doesn’t mean that he was an asshole before. Brash, sure, crass, yes, but actual assholes don’t calm down as easily." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 0 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701981074 {#1717 : 2023-12-07 21:31:14.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@jose1324@lemmy.world" "@redhat" "@Synthead@lemmy.world" "@barsoap@lemm.ee" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2465 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2463 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2411 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2422 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2458 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2456 …} -id: 208075 -bodyTs: "'accustom':11 'actual':27,44 'asshol':37,45 'becom':9 'brash':39 'calm':48 'crass':41 'develop':22 'doesn':30 'easili':51 'instead':16 'linus':26 'mean':32 'need':20 'other':25 'project':18 'sure':40 'us':7 'virtu':23 'wish':3 'work':13 'yes':42" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7097925" +editedAt: DateTimeImmutable @1703376112 {#1739 : 2023-12-24 01:01:52.0 +01:00 } +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701981074 {#1741 : 2023-12-07 21:31:14.0 +01:00 } +"title": 208075 } 1 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#2454 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#2455 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1559 …} +body: """ Current-day Linus wouldn’t react much differently. Cut the “shut the fuck up”, the one or other “fuck” (but not all, some need to be there for emphasis), done. It’s the real personal shit, the “should be aborted retroactively” stuff, that he cut out. “Obvious garbage and idiocy” is a technical term, programmers apply it to their own work all the time. Compilers are more technical in their language but we know what they mean.\n \n And was this mail, seen in its total impact, a hardship? He went down hard, yes, and thousands upon thousands of Linux *users* breathed a sigh of relief, seeing that Mauro’s attitude towards userland doesn’t fly.\n \n The hardest-hitting sentence in that mail is actually “You have shown yourself to not be competent in this issue”. Absolutely devastating. Taking context into account it’s the equivalent of telling a professional cook that their ingredients suck, what they did with them sucks, and most of all that the gall which which they claimed that the customer is wrong about their dinner sucking is completely, and utterly, unprofessional.\n \n Of course that’s hard on Mauro. There’s no way to tell someone about such an epic cock-up without being hard. But not going that far, avoiding that hardship for some notion of civility, now that would be right-out cruel. 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If anything, then an idiot (indirectly, by saying “I don’t want to hear that kind of garbage and idiocy from a kernel maintainer again”.\n \n How many of the people complaining about the mail being abusive or whatnot actually read it. 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Mauro gets paid to work on the kernel and is not a noob who doesn’t know better, either, he’s a maintainer who fucked up basic maintenance." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 15 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701954818 {#1572 : 2023-12-07 14:13:38.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@jose1324@lemmy.world" "@redhat" "@Synthead@lemmy.world" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1548 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1554 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1556 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1555 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1620 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1604 …} -id: 206422 -bodyTs: "'address':8 'basic':39 'better':30 'doesn':27 'either':31 'fuck':37 'get':14 'kernel':20 'know':29 'maintain':35 'mainten':40 'mauro':13 'messag':4 'might':11 'noob':25 'notic':12 'paid':15 'redhat':7 'work':17" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7083443" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701954818 {#1563 : 2023-12-07 14:13:38.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206422 } -cache: Symfony\Component\Cache\Adapter\TraceableTagAwareAdapter {#600 …} } |
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I vastly prefer an angry-sounding takedown over a passive aggressive takedown and a takedown Mauro definitely deserved because his code was, in fact, utter shite, *and that as a maintainer*. This isn’t “oh he’s a noob he doesn’t know how the kernel works” type of territory. Also note that this happened *after* he had been told what’s up in a neutral and factual way: Linus, even in his most management by perkele days, never made those things the first reply to anything. So Mauro got his chance to spot that he fucked up and correct his approach, he didn’t, therefore, it has to be said loudly. Simple as that.\n \n Also, no “you should be aborted retroactively” in sight anywhere. Yeah that stuff wasn’t necessary even though everyone with an ounce of social intelligence should readily spot that those insults were always so over the top as to be obviously humorous. 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Mauro gets paid to work on the kernel and is not a noob who doesn’t know better, either, he’s a maintainer who fucked up basic maintenance." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 15 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701954818 {#1572 : 2023-12-07 14:13:38.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@jose1324@lemmy.world" "@redhat" "@Synthead@lemmy.world" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1548 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1554 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1556 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1555 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1620 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1604 …} -id: 206422 -bodyTs: "'address':8 'basic':39 'better':30 'doesn':27 'either':31 'fuck':37 'get':14 'kernel':20 'know':29 'maintain':35 'mainten':40 'mauro':13 'messag':4 'might':11 'noob':25 'notic':12 'paid':15 'redhat':7 'work':17" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7083443" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701954818 {#1563 : 2023-12-07 14:13:38.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206422 } 5 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1701} 4 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1628 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1626 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +body: "Yep this is lemmy not reddit. Switcharoos with actual substance and everyone is way more humble." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 4 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701962246 {#1630 : 2023-12-07 16:17:26.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@feddylemmy@lemmy.world" "@Windex007@lemmy.world" "@interceder270@lemmy.world" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1599 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1625 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1617 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1725 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1722 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1726 …} -id: 206790 -bodyTs: "'actual':9 'everyon':12 'humbl':16 'lemmi':4 'reddit':6 'substanc':10 'switcharoo':7 'way':14 'yep':1" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7087266" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701962246 {#1629 : 2023-12-07 16:17:26.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206790 } 3 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1737 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1734 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +body: """ > and being abusive\n \n There’s it again. What, precisely, is it that makes Linus’ comment “abusive”? Is he gaslighting? Is he attacking Mauro over what he is? All I see is calling out, harshly, what Mauro *did*, behaviour that actually occurred and that is not acceptable and that Mauro *knows* is not acceptable. “We do not break userspace” is the rule #1 of Linux development, Mauro ignored it *and* was a dick about it.\n \n Or do you disagree with the *tone* of the whole thing. Things like “Shut up” instead of “This is not up for discussion”. If so, then please for the love of the gods please shut up. 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Linus actually did it, doesn’t mean that he was an asshole before. Brash, sure, crass, yes, but actual assholes don’t calm down as easily." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 0 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701981074 {#1717 : 2023-12-07 21:31:14.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@jose1324@lemmy.world" "@redhat" "@Synthead@lemmy.world" "@barsoap@lemm.ee" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2465 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2463 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2411 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2422 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2458 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2456 …} -id: 208075 -bodyTs: "'accustom':11 'actual':27,44 'asshol':37,45 'becom':9 'brash':39 'calm':48 'crass':41 'develop':22 'doesn':30 'easili':51 'instead':16 'linus':26 'mean':32 'need':20 'other':25 'project':18 'sure':40 'us':7 'virtu':23 'wish':3 'work':13 'yes':42" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7097925" +editedAt: DateTimeImmutable @1703376112 {#1739 : 2023-12-24 01:01:52.0 +01:00 } +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701981074 {#1741 : 2023-12-07 21:31:14.0 +01:00 } +"title": 208075 } 1 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#2454 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#2455 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1559 …} +body: """ Current-day Linus wouldn’t react much differently. Cut the “shut the fuck up”, the one or other “fuck” (but not all, some need to be there for emphasis), done. It’s the real personal shit, the “should be aborted retroactively” stuff, that he cut out. “Obvious garbage and idiocy” is a technical term, programmers apply it to their own work all the time. Compilers are more technical in their language but we know what they mean.\n \n And was this mail, seen in its total impact, a hardship? He went down hard, yes, and thousands upon thousands of Linux *users* breathed a sigh of relief, seeing that Mauro’s attitude towards userland doesn’t fly.\n \n The hardest-hitting sentence in that mail is actually “You have shown yourself to not be competent in this issue”. Absolutely devastating. Taking context into account it’s the equivalent of telling a professional cook that their ingredients suck, what they did with them sucks, and most of all that the gall which which they claimed that the customer is wrong about their dinner sucking is completely, and utterly, unprofessional.\n \n Of course that’s hard on Mauro. There’s no way to tell someone about such an epic cock-up without being hard. But not going that far, avoiding that hardship for some notion of civility, now that would be right-out cruel. 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If anything, then an idiot (indirectly, by saying “I don’t want to hear that kind of garbage and idiocy from a kernel maintainer again”.\n \n How many of the people complaining about the mail being abusive or whatnot actually read it. 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I have no idea where your line for behaviour to be deemed acceptable actually is.\n \n IMO, no, Linus wasn’t a dick. He called out a specific attitude and behaviour which Mauro is not supposed to show in his role as maintainer. What about Mauro being a dick because he went in all self-righteous like “this is a bug in pulseaudio”?\n \n If you were a restaurant manager, and a server told a customer that he’s not going to serve beer with steak but only wine because “drinking beer with steak is obviously wrong”, what would you do? Chew them out, of course. It’s way out of line. This isn’t Linus exploding over nothing just to bully someone, that’s a thing he has *never* done.\n \n If you want someone toxic to complain about in the FOSS space pick Lennart Poettering, the kind of guy who replies to “We’d like to be able to disable various features to keep things small” with “why do you hate disabled people they need accessibility”. More generally speaking: Focussing on tone never ends up well. You can be incredibly toxic in the most flowery of idioms. 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""" +rules: null +subscriptionsCount: 1 +entryCount: 398 +entryCommentCount: 11895 +postCount: 1 +postCommentCount: 0 +isAdult: false +customCss: null +lastActive: DateTime @1726884280 {#3171 : 2024-09-21 04:04:40.0 +02:00 } +markedForDeletionAt: null +tags: null +moderators: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3175 …} +ownershipRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3177 …} +moderatorRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3179 …} +entries: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3181 …} +posts: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3183 …} +subscriptions: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3185 …} +bans: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3191 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3199 …} +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3212 …} +logs: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3222 …} +awards: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3204 …} +categories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3228 …} -id: 83 +apId: "linuxmemes@lemmy.world" +apProfileId: "https://lemmy.world/c/linuxmemes" +apPublicUrl: "https://lemmy.world/c/linuxmemes" +apFollowersUrl: "https://lemmy.world/c/linuxmemes/followers" +apInboxUrl: "https://lemmy.world/inbox" +apDomain: "lemmy.world" +apPreferredUsername: "linuxmemes" +apDiscoverable: true +apManuallyApprovesFollowers: null +privateKey: null +publicKey: null +apFetchedAt: DateTime @1719076635 {#3172 : 2024-06-22 19:17:15.0 +02:00 } +apDeletedAt: null +apTimeoutAt: null +visibility: "visible " +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1699095615 {#3173 : 2023-11-04 12:00:15.0 +01:00 } +__isInitialized__: true …2 } +image: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#2199 …} +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#2267 …} +slug: "Linus-does-not-fuck-around" +title: "Linus does not fuck around" +url: "https://lemmy.one/pictrs/image/f5614afd-25b9-4afe-a003-00eab7c7fb34.png" +body: "An oldie, but a goodie" +type: "image" +lang: "en" +isOc: false +hasEmbed: true +commentCount: 471 +favouriteCount: 1556 +score: 0 +isAdult: false +sticky: false +lastActive: DateTime @1720068489 {#2101 : 2024-07-04 06:48:09.0 +02:00 } +ip: null +adaAmount: 0 +tags: null +mentions: null +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2268 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2266 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2200 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2246 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2260 …} +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2142 …} +children: [ 7 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1614 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +body: """ Nah it’s completely fine. I vastly prefer an angry-sounding takedown over a passive aggressive takedown and a takedown Mauro definitely deserved because his code was, in fact, utter shite, *and that as a maintainer*. This isn’t “oh he’s a noob he doesn’t know how the kernel works” type of territory. Also note that this happened *after* he had been told what’s up in a neutral and factual way: Linus, even in his most management by perkele days, never made those things the first reply to anything. So Mauro got his chance to spot that he fucked up and correct his approach, he didn’t, therefore, it has to be said loudly. Simple as that.\n \n Also, no “you should be aborted retroactively” in sight anywhere. Yeah that stuff wasn’t necessary even though everyone with an ounce of social intelligence should readily spot that those insults were always so over the top as to be obviously humorous. """ +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 40 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701954766 {#1438 : 2023-12-07 14:12:46.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@feddylemmy@lemmy.world" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1651 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1652 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1650 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1671 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1568 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1560 …} -id: 206416 -bodyTs: "'abort':127 'aggress':17 'also':57,122 'alway':154 'angri':11 'angry-sound':10 'anyth':93 'anywher':131 'approach':108 'chanc':98 'code':27 'complet':4 'correct':106 'day':84 'definit':23 'deserv':24 'didn':110 'doesn':47 'even':77,138 'everyon':140 'fact':30 'factual':74 'fine':5 'first':90 'fuck':103 'got':96 'happen':61 'humor':163 'insult':152 'intellig':146 'isn':39 'kernel':52 'know':49 'linus':76 'loud':118 'made':86 'maintain':37 'manag':81 'mauro':22,95 'nah':1 'necessari':137 'neutral':72 'never':85 'noob':45 'note':58 'obvious':162 'oh':41 'ounc':143 'passiv':16 'perkel':83 'prefer':8 'readili':148 'repli':91 'retroact':128 'said':117 'shite':32 'sight':130 'simpl':119 'social':145 'sound':12 'spot':100,149 'stuff':134 'takedown':13,18,21 'territori':56 'therefor':112 'thing':88 'though':139 'told':66 'top':158 'type':54 'utter':31 'vast':7 'wasn':135 'way':75 'work':53 'yeah':132" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7083419" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701954766 {#1700 : 2023-12-07 14:12:46.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206416 } 6 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1562 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1566 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1559 …} +body: "This is a message to an @redhat address, as you might notice. Mauro gets paid to work on the kernel and is not a noob who doesn’t know better, either, he’s a maintainer who fucked up basic maintenance." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 15 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701954818 {#1572 : 2023-12-07 14:13:38.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@jose1324@lemmy.world" "@redhat" "@Synthead@lemmy.world" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1548 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1554 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1556 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1555 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1620 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1604 …} -id: 206422 -bodyTs: "'address':8 'basic':39 'better':30 'doesn':27 'either':31 'fuck':37 'get':14 'kernel':20 'know':29 'maintain':35 'mainten':40 'mauro':13 'messag':4 'might':11 'noob':25 'notic':12 'paid':15 'redhat':7 'work':17" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7083443" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701954818 {#1563 : 2023-12-07 14:13:38.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206422 } 5 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1701} 4 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1628 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1626 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +body: "Yep this is lemmy not reddit. Switcharoos with actual substance and everyone is way more humble." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 4 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701962246 {#1630 : 2023-12-07 16:17:26.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@feddylemmy@lemmy.world" "@Windex007@lemmy.world" "@interceder270@lemmy.world" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1599 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1625 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1617 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1725 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1722 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1726 …} -id: 206790 -bodyTs: "'actual':9 'everyon':12 'humbl':16 'lemmi':4 'reddit':6 'substanc':10 'switcharoo':7 'way':14 'yep':1" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7087266" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701962246 {#1629 : 2023-12-07 16:17:26.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206790 } 3 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1737 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1734 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +body: """ > and being abusive\n \n There’s it again. What, precisely, is it that makes Linus’ comment “abusive”? Is he gaslighting? Is he attacking Mauro over what he is? All I see is calling out, harshly, what Mauro *did*, behaviour that actually occurred and that is not acceptable and that Mauro *knows* is not acceptable. “We do not break userspace” is the rule #1 of Linux development, Mauro ignored it *and* was a dick about it.\n \n Or do you disagree with the *tone* of the whole thing. Things like “Shut up” instead of “This is not up for discussion”. If so, then please for the love of the gods please shut up. """ +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 6 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701968575 {#1736 : 2023-12-07 18:02:55.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@feddylemmy@lemmy.world" "@barsoap@lemm.ee" "@oatscoop@midwest.social" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1732 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1735 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1729 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1719 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1714 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1720 …} -id: 207200 -bodyTs: "'1':62 'abus':3,16 'accept':46,53 'actual':40 'attack':22 'behaviour':38 'break':57 'call':32 'comment':15 'develop':65 'dick':72 'disagre':78 'discuss':97 'gaslight':19 'god':107 'harsh':34 'ignor':67 'instead':90 'know':50 'like':87 'linus':14 'linux':64 'love':104 'make':13 'mauro':23,36,49,66 'occur':41 'pleas':101,108 'precis':9 'rule':61 'see':30 'shut':88,109 'thing':85,86 'tone':81 'userspac':58 'whole':84" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7090782" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701968575 {#1730 : 2023-12-07 18:02:55.0 +01:00 } +"title": 207200 } 2 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1740 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1707 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1559 …} +body: "I just wish for all of us to become more accustomed to working on ourselves instead of projecting the need to develop virtue on others. Linus actually did it, doesn’t mean that he was an asshole before. Brash, sure, crass, yes, but actual assholes don’t calm down as easily." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 0 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701981074 {#1717 : 2023-12-07 21:31:14.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@jose1324@lemmy.world" "@redhat" "@Synthead@lemmy.world" "@barsoap@lemm.ee" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2465 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2463 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2411 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2422 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2458 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2456 …} -id: 208075 -bodyTs: "'accustom':11 'actual':27,44 'asshol':37,45 'becom':9 'brash':39 'calm':48 'crass':41 'develop':22 'doesn':30 'easili':51 'instead':16 'linus':26 'mean':32 'need':20 'other':25 'project':18 'sure':40 'us':7 'virtu':23 'wish':3 'work':13 'yes':42" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7097925" +editedAt: DateTimeImmutable @1703376112 {#1739 : 2023-12-24 01:01:52.0 +01:00 } +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701981074 {#1741 : 2023-12-07 21:31:14.0 +01:00 } +"title": 208075 } 1 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#2454 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#2455 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1559 …} +body: """ Current-day Linus wouldn’t react much differently. Cut the “shut the fuck up”, the one or other “fuck” (but not all, some need to be there for emphasis), done. It’s the real personal shit, the “should be aborted retroactively” stuff, that he cut out. “Obvious garbage and idiocy” is a technical term, programmers apply it to their own work all the time. Compilers are more technical in their language but we know what they mean.\n \n And was this mail, seen in its total impact, a hardship? He went down hard, yes, and thousands upon thousands of Linux *users* breathed a sigh of relief, seeing that Mauro’s attitude towards userland doesn’t fly.\n \n The hardest-hitting sentence in that mail is actually “You have shown yourself to not be competent in this issue”. Absolutely devastating. Taking context into account it’s the equivalent of telling a professional cook that their ingredients suck, what they did with them sucks, and most of all that the gall which which they claimed that the customer is wrong about their dinner sucking is completely, and utterly, unprofessional.\n \n Of course that’s hard on Mauro. There’s no way to tell someone about such an epic cock-up without being hard. But not going that far, avoiding that hardship for some notion of civility, now that would be right-out cruel. 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If anything, then an idiot (indirectly, by saying “I don’t want to hear that kind of garbage and idiocy from a kernel maintainer again”.\n \n How many of the people complaining about the mail being abusive or whatnot actually read it. 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I have no idea where your line for behaviour to be deemed acceptable actually is.\n \n IMO, no, Linus wasn’t a dick. He called out a specific attitude and behaviour which Mauro is not supposed to show in his role as maintainer. What about Mauro being a dick because he went in all self-righteous like “this is a bug in pulseaudio”?\n \n If you were a restaurant manager, and a server told a customer that he’s not going to serve beer with steak but only wine because “drinking beer with steak is obviously wrong”, what would you do? Chew them out, of course. It’s way out of line. This isn’t Linus exploding over nothing just to bully someone, that’s a thing he has *never* done.\n \n If you want someone toxic to complain about in the FOSS space pick Lennart Poettering, the kind of guy who replies to “We’d like to be able to disable various features to keep things small” with “why do you hate disabled people they need accessibility”. More generally speaking: Focussing on tone never ends up well. You can be incredibly toxic in the most flowery of idioms. 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date | App\Twig\Components\DateComponent | 12.0 MiB | 0.14 ms | |
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Input props | [ "date" => DateTimeImmutable @1701959697 {#1702 : 2023-12-07 15:34:57.0 +01:00 } ] |
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Component | App\Twig\Components\DateComponent {#5303 +date: DateTimeImmutable @1701959697 {#1702 : 2023-12-07 15:34:57.0 +01:00 } } |
date_edited | App\Twig\Components\DateEditedComponent | 12.0 MiB | 0.09 ms | |
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Input props | [ "createdAt" => DateTimeImmutable @1701959697 {#1702 : 2023-12-07 15:34:57.0 +01:00 } "editedAt" => null ] |
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Component | App\Twig\Components\DateEditedComponent {#5357 +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701959697 {#1702 : 2023-12-07 15:34:57.0 +01:00 } +editedAt: null } |
user_avatar | App\Twig\Components\UserAvatarComponent | 12.0 MiB | 4.36 ms | |
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vote | App\Twig\Components\VoteComponent | 12.0 MiB | 0.43 ms | |
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I vastly prefer an angry-sounding takedown over a passive aggressive takedown and a takedown Mauro definitely deserved because his code was, in fact, utter shite, *and that as a maintainer*. This isn’t “oh he’s a noob he doesn’t know how the kernel works” type of territory. Also note that this happened *after* he had been told what’s up in a neutral and factual way: Linus, even in his most management by perkele days, never made those things the first reply to anything. So Mauro got his chance to spot that he fucked up and correct his approach, he didn’t, therefore, it has to be said loudly. Simple as that.\n \n Also, no “you should be aborted retroactively” in sight anywhere. Yeah that stuff wasn’t necessary even though everyone with an ounce of social intelligence should readily spot that those insults were always so over the top as to be obviously humorous. """ +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 40 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701954766 {#1438 : 2023-12-07 14:12:46.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@feddylemmy@lemmy.world" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1651 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1652 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1650 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1671 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1568 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1560 …} -id: 206416 -bodyTs: "'abort':127 'aggress':17 'also':57,122 'alway':154 'angri':11 'angry-sound':10 'anyth':93 'anywher':131 'approach':108 'chanc':98 'code':27 'complet':4 'correct':106 'day':84 'definit':23 'deserv':24 'didn':110 'doesn':47 'even':77,138 'everyon':140 'fact':30 'factual':74 'fine':5 'first':90 'fuck':103 'got':96 'happen':61 'humor':163 'insult':152 'intellig':146 'isn':39 'kernel':52 'know':49 'linus':76 'loud':118 'made':86 'maintain':37 'manag':81 'mauro':22,95 'nah':1 'necessari':137 'neutral':72 'never':85 'noob':45 'note':58 'obvious':162 'oh':41 'ounc':143 'passiv':16 'perkel':83 'prefer':8 'readili':148 'repli':91 'retroact':128 'said':117 'shite':32 'sight':130 'simpl':119 'social':145 'sound':12 'spot':100,149 'stuff':134 'takedown':13,18,21 'territori':56 'therefor':112 'thing':88 'though':139 'told':66 'top':158 'type':54 'utter':31 'vast':7 'wasn':135 'way':75 'work':53 'yeah':132" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7083419" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701954766 {#1700 : 2023-12-07 14:12:46.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206416 } 6 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1562 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1566 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1559 …} +body: "This is a message to an @redhat address, as you might notice. Mauro gets paid to work on the kernel and is not a noob who doesn’t know better, either, he’s a maintainer who fucked up basic maintenance." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 15 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701954818 {#1572 : 2023-12-07 14:13:38.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@jose1324@lemmy.world" "@redhat" "@Synthead@lemmy.world" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1548 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1554 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1556 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1555 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1620 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1604 …} -id: 206422 -bodyTs: "'address':8 'basic':39 'better':30 'doesn':27 'either':31 'fuck':37 'get':14 'kernel':20 'know':29 'maintain':35 'mainten':40 'mauro':13 'messag':4 'might':11 'noob':25 'notic':12 'paid':15 'redhat':7 'work':17" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7083443" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701954818 {#1563 : 2023-12-07 14:13:38.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206422 } 5 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1701} 4 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1628 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1626 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +body: "Yep this is lemmy not reddit. Switcharoos with actual substance and everyone is way more humble." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 4 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701962246 {#1630 : 2023-12-07 16:17:26.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@feddylemmy@lemmy.world" "@Windex007@lemmy.world" "@interceder270@lemmy.world" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1599 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1625 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1617 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1725 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1722 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1726 …} -id: 206790 -bodyTs: "'actual':9 'everyon':12 'humbl':16 'lemmi':4 'reddit':6 'substanc':10 'switcharoo':7 'way':14 'yep':1" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7087266" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701962246 {#1629 : 2023-12-07 16:17:26.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206790 } 3 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1737 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1734 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +body: """ > and being abusive\n \n There’s it again. What, precisely, is it that makes Linus’ comment “abusive”? Is he gaslighting? Is he attacking Mauro over what he is? All I see is calling out, harshly, what Mauro *did*, behaviour that actually occurred and that is not acceptable and that Mauro *knows* is not acceptable. “We do not break userspace” is the rule #1 of Linux development, Mauro ignored it *and* was a dick about it.\n \n Or do you disagree with the *tone* of the whole thing. Things like “Shut up” instead of “This is not up for discussion”. If so, then please for the love of the gods please shut up. 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Linus actually did it, doesn’t mean that he was an asshole before. Brash, sure, crass, yes, but actual assholes don’t calm down as easily." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 0 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701981074 {#1717 : 2023-12-07 21:31:14.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@jose1324@lemmy.world" "@redhat" "@Synthead@lemmy.world" "@barsoap@lemm.ee" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2465 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2463 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2411 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2422 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2458 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2456 …} -id: 208075 -bodyTs: "'accustom':11 'actual':27,44 'asshol':37,45 'becom':9 'brash':39 'calm':48 'crass':41 'develop':22 'doesn':30 'easili':51 'instead':16 'linus':26 'mean':32 'need':20 'other':25 'project':18 'sure':40 'us':7 'virtu':23 'wish':3 'work':13 'yes':42" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7097925" +editedAt: DateTimeImmutable @1703376112 {#1739 : 2023-12-24 01:01:52.0 +01:00 } +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701981074 {#1741 : 2023-12-07 21:31:14.0 +01:00 } +"title": 208075 } 1 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#2454 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#2455 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1559 …} +body: """ Current-day Linus wouldn’t react much differently. Cut the “shut the fuck up”, the one or other “fuck” (but not all, some need to be there for emphasis), done. It’s the real personal shit, the “should be aborted retroactively” stuff, that he cut out. “Obvious garbage and idiocy” is a technical term, programmers apply it to their own work all the time. Compilers are more technical in their language but we know what they mean.\n \n And was this mail, seen in its total impact, a hardship? He went down hard, yes, and thousands upon thousands of Linux *users* breathed a sigh of relief, seeing that Mauro’s attitude towards userland doesn’t fly.\n \n The hardest-hitting sentence in that mail is actually “You have shown yourself to not be competent in this issue”. Absolutely devastating. Taking context into account it’s the equivalent of telling a professional cook that their ingredients suck, what they did with them sucks, and most of all that the gall which which they claimed that the customer is wrong about their dinner sucking is completely, and utterly, unprofessional.\n \n Of course that’s hard on Mauro. There’s no way to tell someone about such an epic cock-up without being hard. But not going that far, avoiding that hardship for some notion of civility, now that would be right-out cruel. 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If anything, then an idiot (indirectly, by saying “I don’t want to hear that kind of garbage and idiocy from a kernel maintainer again”.\n \n How many of the people complaining about the mail being abusive or whatnot actually read it. 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I have no idea where your line for behaviour to be deemed acceptable actually is.\n \n IMO, no, Linus wasn’t a dick. He called out a specific attitude and behaviour which Mauro is not supposed to show in his role as maintainer. What about Mauro being a dick because he went in all self-righteous like “this is a bug in pulseaudio”?\n \n If you were a restaurant manager, and a server told a customer that he’s not going to serve beer with steak but only wine because “drinking beer with steak is obviously wrong”, what would you do? Chew them out, of course. It’s way out of line. This isn’t Linus exploding over nothing just to bully someone, that’s a thing he has *never* done.\n \n If you want someone toxic to complain about in the FOSS space pick Lennart Poettering, the kind of guy who replies to “We’d like to be able to disable various features to keep things small” with “why do you hate disabled people they need accessibility”. More generally speaking: Focussing on tone never ends up well. You can be incredibly toxic in the most flowery of idioms. 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---\n \n Sister communities:* [LemmyMemes](https://lemmy.world/c/memes@lemmy.world): Memes * [LemmyShitpost](https://lemmy.world/c/lemmyshitpost): Anything and everything goes. * [RISA](https://startrek.website/c/risa): Star Trek memes and shitposts\n \n Community rules1. Follow the site-wide rules and [code of conduct](https://join-lemmy.org/docs/code_of_conduct.html)2. Be civil 3. Post Linux-related content 4. No recent reposts Please report posts and comments that break these rules! """ +rules: null +subscriptionsCount: 1 +entryCount: 398 +entryCommentCount: 11895 +postCount: 1 +postCommentCount: 0 +isAdult: false +customCss: null +lastActive: DateTime @1726884280 {#3171 : 2024-09-21 04:04:40.0 +02:00 } +markedForDeletionAt: null +tags: null +moderators: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3175 …} +ownershipRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3177 …} +moderatorRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3179 …} +entries: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3181 …} +posts: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3183 …} +subscriptions: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3185 …} +bans: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3191 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3199 …} +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3212 …} +logs: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3222 …} +awards: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3204 …} +categories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3228 …} -id: 83 +apId: "linuxmemes@lemmy.world" +apProfileId: "https://lemmy.world/c/linuxmemes" +apPublicUrl: "https://lemmy.world/c/linuxmemes" +apFollowersUrl: "https://lemmy.world/c/linuxmemes/followers" +apInboxUrl: "https://lemmy.world/inbox" +apDomain: "lemmy.world" +apPreferredUsername: "linuxmemes" +apDiscoverable: true +apManuallyApprovesFollowers: null +privateKey: null +publicKey: null +apFetchedAt: DateTime @1719076635 {#3172 : 2024-06-22 19:17:15.0 +02:00 } +apDeletedAt: null +apTimeoutAt: null +visibility: "visible " +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1699095615 {#3173 : 2023-11-04 12:00:15.0 +01:00 } +__isInitialized__: true …2 } +image: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#2199 …} +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#2267 …} +slug: "Linus-does-not-fuck-around" +title: "Linus does not fuck around" +url: "https://lemmy.one/pictrs/image/f5614afd-25b9-4afe-a003-00eab7c7fb34.png" +body: "An oldie, but a goodie" +type: "image" +lang: "en" +isOc: false +hasEmbed: true +commentCount: 471 +favouriteCount: 1556 +score: 0 +isAdult: false +sticky: false +lastActive: DateTime @1720068489 {#2101 : 2024-07-04 06:48:09.0 +02:00 } +ip: null +adaAmount: 0 +tags: null +mentions: null +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2268 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2266 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2200 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2246 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2260 …} +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2142 …} +children: [ 7 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1614 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +body: """ Nah it’s completely fine. I vastly prefer an angry-sounding takedown over a passive aggressive takedown and a takedown Mauro definitely deserved because his code was, in fact, utter shite, *and that as a maintainer*. This isn’t “oh he’s a noob he doesn’t know how the kernel works” type of territory. Also note that this happened *after* he had been told what’s up in a neutral and factual way: Linus, even in his most management by perkele days, never made those things the first reply to anything. So Mauro got his chance to spot that he fucked up and correct his approach, he didn’t, therefore, it has to be said loudly. Simple as that.\n \n Also, no “you should be aborted retroactively” in sight anywhere. Yeah that stuff wasn’t necessary even though everyone with an ounce of social intelligence should readily spot that those insults were always so over the top as to be obviously humorous. """ +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 40 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701954766 {#1438 : 2023-12-07 14:12:46.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@feddylemmy@lemmy.world" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1651 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1652 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1650 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1671 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1568 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1560 …} -id: 206416 -bodyTs: "'abort':127 'aggress':17 'also':57,122 'alway':154 'angri':11 'angry-sound':10 'anyth':93 'anywher':131 'approach':108 'chanc':98 'code':27 'complet':4 'correct':106 'day':84 'definit':23 'deserv':24 'didn':110 'doesn':47 'even':77,138 'everyon':140 'fact':30 'factual':74 'fine':5 'first':90 'fuck':103 'got':96 'happen':61 'humor':163 'insult':152 'intellig':146 'isn':39 'kernel':52 'know':49 'linus':76 'loud':118 'made':86 'maintain':37 'manag':81 'mauro':22,95 'nah':1 'necessari':137 'neutral':72 'never':85 'noob':45 'note':58 'obvious':162 'oh':41 'ounc':143 'passiv':16 'perkel':83 'prefer':8 'readili':148 'repli':91 'retroact':128 'said':117 'shite':32 'sight':130 'simpl':119 'social':145 'sound':12 'spot':100,149 'stuff':134 'takedown':13,18,21 'territori':56 'therefor':112 'thing':88 'though':139 'told':66 'top':158 'type':54 'utter':31 'vast':7 'wasn':135 'way':75 'work':53 'yeah':132" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7083419" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701954766 {#1700 : 2023-12-07 14:12:46.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206416 } 6 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1562 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1566 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1559 …} +body: "This is a message to an @redhat address, as you might notice. Mauro gets paid to work on the kernel and is not a noob who doesn’t know better, either, he’s a maintainer who fucked up basic maintenance." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 15 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701954818 {#1572 : 2023-12-07 14:13:38.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@jose1324@lemmy.world" "@redhat" "@Synthead@lemmy.world" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1548 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1554 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1556 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1555 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1620 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1604 …} -id: 206422 -bodyTs: "'address':8 'basic':39 'better':30 'doesn':27 'either':31 'fuck':37 'get':14 'kernel':20 'know':29 'maintain':35 'mainten':40 'mauro':13 'messag':4 'might':11 'noob':25 'notic':12 'paid':15 'redhat':7 'work':17" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7083443" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701954818 {#1563 : 2023-12-07 14:13:38.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206422 } 5 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1701} 4 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1628 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1626 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +body: "Yep this is lemmy not reddit. Switcharoos with actual substance and everyone is way more humble." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 4 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701962246 {#1630 : 2023-12-07 16:17:26.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@feddylemmy@lemmy.world" "@Windex007@lemmy.world" "@interceder270@lemmy.world" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1599 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1625 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1617 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1725 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1722 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1726 …} -id: 206790 -bodyTs: "'actual':9 'everyon':12 'humbl':16 'lemmi':4 'reddit':6 'substanc':10 'switcharoo':7 'way':14 'yep':1" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7087266" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701962246 {#1629 : 2023-12-07 16:17:26.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206790 } 3 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1737 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1734 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +body: """ > and being abusive\n \n There’s it again. What, precisely, is it that makes Linus’ comment “abusive”? Is he gaslighting? Is he attacking Mauro over what he is? All I see is calling out, harshly, what Mauro *did*, behaviour that actually occurred and that is not acceptable and that Mauro *knows* is not acceptable. “We do not break userspace” is the rule #1 of Linux development, Mauro ignored it *and* was a dick about it.\n \n Or do you disagree with the *tone* of the whole thing. Things like “Shut up” instead of “This is not up for discussion”. If so, then please for the love of the gods please shut up. 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Linus actually did it, doesn’t mean that he was an asshole before. Brash, sure, crass, yes, but actual assholes don’t calm down as easily." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 0 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701981074 {#1717 : 2023-12-07 21:31:14.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@jose1324@lemmy.world" "@redhat" "@Synthead@lemmy.world" "@barsoap@lemm.ee" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2465 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2463 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2411 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2422 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2458 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2456 …} -id: 208075 -bodyTs: "'accustom':11 'actual':27,44 'asshol':37,45 'becom':9 'brash':39 'calm':48 'crass':41 'develop':22 'doesn':30 'easili':51 'instead':16 'linus':26 'mean':32 'need':20 'other':25 'project':18 'sure':40 'us':7 'virtu':23 'wish':3 'work':13 'yes':42" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7097925" +editedAt: DateTimeImmutable @1703376112 {#1739 : 2023-12-24 01:01:52.0 +01:00 } +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701981074 {#1741 : 2023-12-07 21:31:14.0 +01:00 } +"title": 208075 } 1 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#2454 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#2455 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1559 …} +body: """ Current-day Linus wouldn’t react much differently. Cut the “shut the fuck up”, the one or other “fuck” (but not all, some need to be there for emphasis), done. It’s the real personal shit, the “should be aborted retroactively” stuff, that he cut out. “Obvious garbage and idiocy” is a technical term, programmers apply it to their own work all the time. Compilers are more technical in their language but we know what they mean.\n \n And was this mail, seen in its total impact, a hardship? He went down hard, yes, and thousands upon thousands of Linux *users* breathed a sigh of relief, seeing that Mauro’s attitude towards userland doesn’t fly.\n \n The hardest-hitting sentence in that mail is actually “You have shown yourself to not be competent in this issue”. Absolutely devastating. Taking context into account it’s the equivalent of telling a professional cook that their ingredients suck, what they did with them sucks, and most of all that the gall which which they claimed that the customer is wrong about their dinner sucking is completely, and utterly, unprofessional.\n \n Of course that’s hard on Mauro. There’s no way to tell someone about such an epic cock-up without being hard. But not going that far, avoiding that hardship for some notion of civility, now that would be right-out cruel. 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If anything, then an idiot (indirectly, by saying “I don’t want to hear that kind of garbage and idiocy from a kernel maintainer again”.\n \n How many of the people complaining about the mail being abusive or whatnot actually read it. 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I have no idea where your line for behaviour to be deemed acceptable actually is.\n \n IMO, no, Linus wasn’t a dick. He called out a specific attitude and behaviour which Mauro is not supposed to show in his role as maintainer. What about Mauro being a dick because he went in all self-righteous like “this is a bug in pulseaudio”?\n \n If you were a restaurant manager, and a server told a customer that he’s not going to serve beer with steak but only wine because “drinking beer with steak is obviously wrong”, what would you do? Chew them out, of course. It’s way out of line. This isn’t Linus exploding over nothing just to bully someone, that’s a thing he has *never* done.\n \n If you want someone toxic to complain about in the FOSS space pick Lennart Poettering, the kind of guy who replies to “We’d like to be able to disable various features to keep things small” with “why do you hate disabled people they need accessibility”. 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I vastly prefer an angry-sounding takedown over a passive aggressive takedown and a takedown Mauro definitely deserved because his code was, in fact, utter shite, *and that as a maintainer*. This isn’t “oh he’s a noob he doesn’t know how the kernel works” type of territory. Also note that this happened *after* he had been told what’s up in a neutral and factual way: Linus, even in his most management by perkele days, never made those things the first reply to anything. So Mauro got his chance to spot that he fucked up and correct his approach, he didn’t, therefore, it has to be said loudly. Simple as that.\n \n Also, no “you should be aborted retroactively” in sight anywhere. Yeah that stuff wasn’t necessary even though everyone with an ounce of social intelligence should readily spot that those insults were always so over the top as to be obviously humorous. 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Mauro gets paid to work on the kernel and is not a noob who doesn’t know better, either, he’s a maintainer who fucked up basic maintenance." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 15 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701954818 {#1572 : 2023-12-07 14:13:38.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@jose1324@lemmy.world" "@redhat" "@Synthead@lemmy.world" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1548 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1554 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1556 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1555 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1620 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1604 …} -id: 206422 -bodyTs: "'address':8 'basic':39 'better':30 'doesn':27 'either':31 'fuck':37 'get':14 'kernel':20 'know':29 'maintain':35 'mainten':40 'mauro':13 'messag':4 'might':11 'noob':25 'notic':12 'paid':15 'redhat':7 'work':17" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7083443" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701954818 {#1563 : 2023-12-07 14:13:38.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206422 } 5 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1701} 4 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1628 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1626 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +body: "Yep this is lemmy not reddit. Switcharoos with actual substance and everyone is way more humble." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 4 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701962246 {#1630 : 2023-12-07 16:17:26.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@feddylemmy@lemmy.world" "@Windex007@lemmy.world" "@interceder270@lemmy.world" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1599 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1625 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1617 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1725 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1722 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1726 …} -id: 206790 -bodyTs: "'actual':9 'everyon':12 'humbl':16 'lemmi':4 'reddit':6 'substanc':10 'switcharoo':7 'way':14 'yep':1" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7087266" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701962246 {#1629 : 2023-12-07 16:17:26.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206790 } 3 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1737 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1734 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +body: """ > and being abusive\n \n There’s it again. What, precisely, is it that makes Linus’ comment “abusive”? Is he gaslighting? Is he attacking Mauro over what he is? All I see is calling out, harshly, what Mauro *did*, behaviour that actually occurred and that is not acceptable and that Mauro *knows* is not acceptable. “We do not break userspace” is the rule #1 of Linux development, Mauro ignored it *and* was a dick about it.\n \n Or do you disagree with the *tone* of the whole thing. Things like “Shut up” instead of “This is not up for discussion”. If so, then please for the love of the gods please shut up. 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Linus actually did it, doesn’t mean that he was an asshole before. Brash, sure, crass, yes, but actual assholes don’t calm down as easily." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 0 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701981074 {#1717 : 2023-12-07 21:31:14.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@jose1324@lemmy.world" "@redhat" "@Synthead@lemmy.world" "@barsoap@lemm.ee" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2465 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2463 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2411 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2422 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2458 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2456 …} -id: 208075 -bodyTs: "'accustom':11 'actual':27,44 'asshol':37,45 'becom':9 'brash':39 'calm':48 'crass':41 'develop':22 'doesn':30 'easili':51 'instead':16 'linus':26 'mean':32 'need':20 'other':25 'project':18 'sure':40 'us':7 'virtu':23 'wish':3 'work':13 'yes':42" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7097925" +editedAt: DateTimeImmutable @1703376112 {#1739 : 2023-12-24 01:01:52.0 +01:00 } +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701981074 {#1741 : 2023-12-07 21:31:14.0 +01:00 } +"title": 208075 } 1 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#2454 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#2455 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1559 …} +body: """ Current-day Linus wouldn’t react much differently. Cut the “shut the fuck up”, the one or other “fuck” (but not all, some need to be there for emphasis), done. It’s the real personal shit, the “should be aborted retroactively” stuff, that he cut out. “Obvious garbage and idiocy” is a technical term, programmers apply it to their own work all the time. Compilers are more technical in their language but we know what they mean.\n \n And was this mail, seen in its total impact, a hardship? He went down hard, yes, and thousands upon thousands of Linux *users* breathed a sigh of relief, seeing that Mauro’s attitude towards userland doesn’t fly.\n \n The hardest-hitting sentence in that mail is actually “You have shown yourself to not be competent in this issue”. Absolutely devastating. Taking context into account it’s the equivalent of telling a professional cook that their ingredients suck, what they did with them sucks, and most of all that the gall which which they claimed that the customer is wrong about their dinner sucking is completely, and utterly, unprofessional.\n \n Of course that’s hard on Mauro. There’s no way to tell someone about such an epic cock-up without being hard. But not going that far, avoiding that hardship for some notion of civility, now that would be right-out cruel. 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If anything, then an idiot (indirectly, by saying “I don’t want to hear that kind of garbage and idiocy from a kernel maintainer again”.\n \n How many of the people complaining about the mail being abusive or whatnot actually read it. 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I have no idea where your line for behaviour to be deemed acceptable actually is.\n \n IMO, no, Linus wasn’t a dick. He called out a specific attitude and behaviour which Mauro is not supposed to show in his role as maintainer. What about Mauro being a dick because he went in all self-righteous like “this is a bug in pulseaudio”?\n \n If you were a restaurant manager, and a server told a customer that he’s not going to serve beer with steak but only wine because “drinking beer with steak is obviously wrong”, what would you do? Chew them out, of course. It’s way out of line. This isn’t Linus exploding over nothing just to bully someone, that’s a thing he has *never* done.\n \n If you want someone toxic to complain about in the FOSS space pick Lennart Poettering, the kind of guy who replies to “We’d like to be able to disable various features to keep things small” with “why do you hate disabled people they need accessibility”. More generally speaking: Focussing on tone never ends up well. You can be incredibly toxic in the most flowery of idioms. 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---\n \n Sister communities:* [LemmyMemes](https://lemmy.world/c/memes@lemmy.world): Memes * [LemmyShitpost](https://lemmy.world/c/lemmyshitpost): Anything and everything goes. * [RISA](https://startrek.website/c/risa): Star Trek memes and shitposts\n \n Community rules1. Follow the site-wide rules and [code of conduct](https://join-lemmy.org/docs/code_of_conduct.html)2. Be civil 3. Post Linux-related content 4. No recent reposts Please report posts and comments that break these rules! """ +rules: null +subscriptionsCount: 1 +entryCount: 398 +entryCommentCount: 11895 +postCount: 1 +postCommentCount: 0 +isAdult: false +customCss: null +lastActive: DateTime @1726884280 {#3171 : 2024-09-21 04:04:40.0 +02:00 } +markedForDeletionAt: null +tags: null +moderators: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3175 …} +ownershipRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3177 …} +moderatorRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3179 …} +entries: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3181 …} +posts: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3183 …} +subscriptions: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3185 …} +bans: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3191 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3199 …} +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3212 …} +logs: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3222 …} +awards: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3204 …} +categories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3228 …} -id: 83 +apId: "linuxmemes@lemmy.world" +apProfileId: "https://lemmy.world/c/linuxmemes" +apPublicUrl: "https://lemmy.world/c/linuxmemes" +apFollowersUrl: "https://lemmy.world/c/linuxmemes/followers" +apInboxUrl: "https://lemmy.world/inbox" +apDomain: "lemmy.world" +apPreferredUsername: "linuxmemes" +apDiscoverable: true +apManuallyApprovesFollowers: null +privateKey: null +publicKey: null +apFetchedAt: DateTime @1719076635 {#3172 : 2024-06-22 19:17:15.0 +02:00 } +apDeletedAt: null +apTimeoutAt: null +visibility: "visible " +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1699095615 {#3173 : 2023-11-04 12:00:15.0 +01:00 } +__isInitialized__: true …2 } +image: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#2199 …} +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#2267 …} +slug: "Linus-does-not-fuck-around" +title: "Linus does not fuck around" +url: "https://lemmy.one/pictrs/image/f5614afd-25b9-4afe-a003-00eab7c7fb34.png" +body: "An oldie, but a goodie" +type: "image" +lang: "en" +isOc: false +hasEmbed: true +commentCount: 471 +favouriteCount: 1556 +score: 0 +isAdult: false +sticky: false +lastActive: DateTime @1720068489 {#2101 : 2024-07-04 06:48:09.0 +02:00 } +ip: null +adaAmount: 0 +tags: null +mentions: null +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2268 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2266 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2200 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2246 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2260 …} +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2142 …} +children: [ 7 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1614 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +body: """ Nah it’s completely fine. I vastly prefer an angry-sounding takedown over a passive aggressive takedown and a takedown Mauro definitely deserved because his code was, in fact, utter shite, *and that as a maintainer*. This isn’t “oh he’s a noob he doesn’t know how the kernel works” type of territory. Also note that this happened *after* he had been told what’s up in a neutral and factual way: Linus, even in his most management by perkele days, never made those things the first reply to anything. So Mauro got his chance to spot that he fucked up and correct his approach, he didn’t, therefore, it has to be said loudly. Simple as that.\n \n Also, no “you should be aborted retroactively” in sight anywhere. Yeah that stuff wasn’t necessary even though everyone with an ounce of social intelligence should readily spot that those insults were always so over the top as to be obviously humorous. """ +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 40 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701954766 {#1438 : 2023-12-07 14:12:46.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@feddylemmy@lemmy.world" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1651 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1652 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1650 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1671 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1568 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1560 …} -id: 206416 -bodyTs: "'abort':127 'aggress':17 'also':57,122 'alway':154 'angri':11 'angry-sound':10 'anyth':93 'anywher':131 'approach':108 'chanc':98 'code':27 'complet':4 'correct':106 'day':84 'definit':23 'deserv':24 'didn':110 'doesn':47 'even':77,138 'everyon':140 'fact':30 'factual':74 'fine':5 'first':90 'fuck':103 'got':96 'happen':61 'humor':163 'insult':152 'intellig':146 'isn':39 'kernel':52 'know':49 'linus':76 'loud':118 'made':86 'maintain':37 'manag':81 'mauro':22,95 'nah':1 'necessari':137 'neutral':72 'never':85 'noob':45 'note':58 'obvious':162 'oh':41 'ounc':143 'passiv':16 'perkel':83 'prefer':8 'readili':148 'repli':91 'retroact':128 'said':117 'shite':32 'sight':130 'simpl':119 'social':145 'sound':12 'spot':100,149 'stuff':134 'takedown':13,18,21 'territori':56 'therefor':112 'thing':88 'though':139 'told':66 'top':158 'type':54 'utter':31 'vast':7 'wasn':135 'way':75 'work':53 'yeah':132" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7083419" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701954766 {#1700 : 2023-12-07 14:12:46.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206416 } 6 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1562 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1566 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1559 …} +body: "This is a message to an @redhat address, as you might notice. Mauro gets paid to work on the kernel and is not a noob who doesn’t know better, either, he’s a maintainer who fucked up basic maintenance." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 15 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701954818 {#1572 : 2023-12-07 14:13:38.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@jose1324@lemmy.world" "@redhat" "@Synthead@lemmy.world" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1548 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1554 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1556 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1555 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1620 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1604 …} -id: 206422 -bodyTs: "'address':8 'basic':39 'better':30 'doesn':27 'either':31 'fuck':37 'get':14 'kernel':20 'know':29 'maintain':35 'mainten':40 'mauro':13 'messag':4 'might':11 'noob':25 'notic':12 'paid':15 'redhat':7 'work':17" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7083443" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701954818 {#1563 : 2023-12-07 14:13:38.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206422 } 5 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1701} 4 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1628 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1626 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +body: "Yep this is lemmy not reddit. Switcharoos with actual substance and everyone is way more humble." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 4 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701962246 {#1630 : 2023-12-07 16:17:26.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@feddylemmy@lemmy.world" "@Windex007@lemmy.world" "@interceder270@lemmy.world" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1599 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1625 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1617 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1725 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1722 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1726 …} -id: 206790 -bodyTs: "'actual':9 'everyon':12 'humbl':16 'lemmi':4 'reddit':6 'substanc':10 'switcharoo':7 'way':14 'yep':1" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7087266" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701962246 {#1629 : 2023-12-07 16:17:26.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206790 } 3 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1737 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1734 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +body: """ > and being abusive\n \n There’s it again. What, precisely, is it that makes Linus’ comment “abusive”? Is he gaslighting? Is he attacking Mauro over what he is? All I see is calling out, harshly, what Mauro *did*, behaviour that actually occurred and that is not acceptable and that Mauro *knows* is not acceptable. “We do not break userspace” is the rule #1 of Linux development, Mauro ignored it *and* was a dick about it.\n \n Or do you disagree with the *tone* of the whole thing. Things like “Shut up” instead of “This is not up for discussion”. If so, then please for the love of the gods please shut up. """ +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 6 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701968575 {#1736 : 2023-12-07 18:02:55.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@feddylemmy@lemmy.world" "@barsoap@lemm.ee" "@oatscoop@midwest.social" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1732 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1735 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1729 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1719 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1714 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1720 …} -id: 207200 -bodyTs: "'1':62 'abus':3,16 'accept':46,53 'actual':40 'attack':22 'behaviour':38 'break':57 'call':32 'comment':15 'develop':65 'dick':72 'disagre':78 'discuss':97 'gaslight':19 'god':107 'harsh':34 'ignor':67 'instead':90 'know':50 'like':87 'linus':14 'linux':64 'love':104 'make':13 'mauro':23,36,49,66 'occur':41 'pleas':101,108 'precis':9 'rule':61 'see':30 'shut':88,109 'thing':85,86 'tone':81 'userspac':58 'whole':84" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7090782" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701968575 {#1730 : 2023-12-07 18:02:55.0 +01:00 } +"title": 207200 } 2 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1740 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1707 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1559 …} +body: "I just wish for all of us to become more accustomed to working on ourselves instead of projecting the need to develop virtue on others. Linus actually did it, doesn’t mean that he was an asshole before. Brash, sure, crass, yes, but actual assholes don’t calm down as easily." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 0 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701981074 {#1717 : 2023-12-07 21:31:14.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@jose1324@lemmy.world" "@redhat" "@Synthead@lemmy.world" "@barsoap@lemm.ee" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2465 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2463 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2411 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2422 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2458 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2456 …} -id: 208075 -bodyTs: "'accustom':11 'actual':27,44 'asshol':37,45 'becom':9 'brash':39 'calm':48 'crass':41 'develop':22 'doesn':30 'easili':51 'instead':16 'linus':26 'mean':32 'need':20 'other':25 'project':18 'sure':40 'us':7 'virtu':23 'wish':3 'work':13 'yes':42" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7097925" +editedAt: DateTimeImmutable @1703376112 {#1739 : 2023-12-24 01:01:52.0 +01:00 } +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701981074 {#1741 : 2023-12-07 21:31:14.0 +01:00 } +"title": 208075 } 1 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#2454 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#2455 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1559 …} +body: """ Current-day Linus wouldn’t react much differently. Cut the “shut the fuck up”, the one or other “fuck” (but not all, some need to be there for emphasis), done. It’s the real personal shit, the “should be aborted retroactively” stuff, that he cut out. “Obvious garbage and idiocy” is a technical term, programmers apply it to their own work all the time. Compilers are more technical in their language but we know what they mean.\n \n And was this mail, seen in its total impact, a hardship? He went down hard, yes, and thousands upon thousands of Linux *users* breathed a sigh of relief, seeing that Mauro’s attitude towards userland doesn’t fly.\n \n The hardest-hitting sentence in that mail is actually “You have shown yourself to not be competent in this issue”. Absolutely devastating. Taking context into account it’s the equivalent of telling a professional cook that their ingredients suck, what they did with them sucks, and most of all that the gall which which they claimed that the customer is wrong about their dinner sucking is completely, and utterly, unprofessional.\n \n Of course that’s hard on Mauro. There’s no way to tell someone about such an epic cock-up without being hard. But not going that far, avoiding that hardship for some notion of civility, now that would be right-out cruel. 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If anything, then an idiot (indirectly, by saying “I don’t want to hear that kind of garbage and idiocy from a kernel maintainer again”.\n \n How many of the people complaining about the mail being abusive or whatnot actually read it. 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I have no idea where your line for behaviour to be deemed acceptable actually is.\n \n IMO, no, Linus wasn’t a dick. He called out a specific attitude and behaviour which Mauro is not supposed to show in his role as maintainer. What about Mauro being a dick because he went in all self-righteous like “this is a bug in pulseaudio”?\n \n If you were a restaurant manager, and a server told a customer that he’s not going to serve beer with steak but only wine because “drinking beer with steak is obviously wrong”, what would you do? Chew them out, of course. It’s way out of line. This isn’t Linus exploding over nothing just to bully someone, that’s a thing he has *never* done.\n \n If you want someone toxic to complain about in the FOSS space pick Lennart Poettering, the kind of guy who replies to “We’d like to be able to disable various features to keep things small” with “why do you hate disabled people they need accessibility”. More generally speaking: Focussing on tone never ends up well. You can be incredibly toxic in the most flowery of idioms. 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I vastly prefer an angry-sounding takedown over a passive aggressive takedown and a takedown Mauro definitely deserved because his code was, in fact, utter shite, *and that as a maintainer*. This isn’t “oh he’s a noob he doesn’t know how the kernel works” type of territory. Also note that this happened *after* he had been told what’s up in a neutral and factual way: Linus, even in his most management by perkele days, never made those things the first reply to anything. So Mauro got his chance to spot that he fucked up and correct his approach, he didn’t, therefore, it has to be said loudly. Simple as that.\n \n Also, no “you should be aborted retroactively” in sight anywhere. Yeah that stuff wasn’t necessary even though everyone with an ounce of social intelligence should readily spot that those insults were always so over the top as to be obviously humorous. 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Mauro gets paid to work on the kernel and is not a noob who doesn’t know better, either, he’s a maintainer who fucked up basic maintenance." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 15 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701954818 {#1572 : 2023-12-07 14:13:38.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@jose1324@lemmy.world" "@redhat" "@Synthead@lemmy.world" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1548 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1554 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1556 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1555 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1620 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1604 …} -id: 206422 -bodyTs: "'address':8 'basic':39 'better':30 'doesn':27 'either':31 'fuck':37 'get':14 'kernel':20 'know':29 'maintain':35 'mainten':40 'mauro':13 'messag':4 'might':11 'noob':25 'notic':12 'paid':15 'redhat':7 'work':17" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7083443" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701954818 {#1563 : 2023-12-07 14:13:38.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206422 } 5 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1701 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1683 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +body: """ “being a dick” and “assertive” are weasel terms which do a hell a lot of lifting in your argument there. I have no idea where your line for behaviour to be deemed acceptable actually is.\n \n IMO, no, Linus wasn’t a dick. He called out a specific attitude and behaviour which Mauro is not supposed to show in his role as maintainer. What about Mauro being a dick because he went in all self-righteous like “this is a bug in pulseaudio”?\n \n If you were a restaurant manager, and a server told a customer that he’s not going to serve beer with steak but only wine because “drinking beer with steak is obviously wrong”, what would you do? Chew them out, of course. It’s way out of line. This isn’t Linus exploding over nothing just to bully someone, that’s a thing he has *never* done.\n \n If you want someone toxic to complain about in the FOSS space pick Lennart Poettering, the kind of guy who replies to “We’d like to be able to disable various features to keep things small” with “why do you hate disabled people they need accessibility”. More generally speaking: Focussing on tone never ends up well. You can be incredibly toxic in the most flowery of idioms. 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What, precisely, is it that makes Linus’ comment “abusive”? Is he gaslighting? Is he attacking Mauro over what he is? All I see is calling out, harshly, what Mauro *did*, behaviour that actually occurred and that is not acceptable and that Mauro *knows* is not acceptable. “We do not break userspace” is the rule #1 of Linux development, Mauro ignored it *and* was a dick about it.\n \n Or do you disagree with the *tone* of the whole thing. Things like “Shut up” instead of “This is not up for discussion”. If so, then please for the love of the gods please shut up. 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Linus actually did it, doesn’t mean that he was an asshole before. Brash, sure, crass, yes, but actual assholes don’t calm down as easily." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 0 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701981074 {#1717 : 2023-12-07 21:31:14.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@jose1324@lemmy.world" "@redhat" "@Synthead@lemmy.world" "@barsoap@lemm.ee" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2465 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2463 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2411 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2422 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2458 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2456 …} -id: 208075 -bodyTs: "'accustom':11 'actual':27,44 'asshol':37,45 'becom':9 'brash':39 'calm':48 'crass':41 'develop':22 'doesn':30 'easili':51 'instead':16 'linus':26 'mean':32 'need':20 'other':25 'project':18 'sure':40 'us':7 'virtu':23 'wish':3 'work':13 'yes':42" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7097925" +editedAt: DateTimeImmutable @1703376112 {#1739 : 2023-12-24 01:01:52.0 +01:00 } +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701981074 {#1741 : 2023-12-07 21:31:14.0 +01:00 } +"title": 208075 } 1 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#2454 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#2455 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1559 …} +body: """ Current-day Linus wouldn’t react much differently. Cut the “shut the fuck up”, the one or other “fuck” (but not all, some need to be there for emphasis), done. It’s the real personal shit, the “should be aborted retroactively” stuff, that he cut out. “Obvious garbage and idiocy” is a technical term, programmers apply it to their own work all the time. Compilers are more technical in their language but we know what they mean.\n \n And was this mail, seen in its total impact, a hardship? He went down hard, yes, and thousands upon thousands of Linux *users* breathed a sigh of relief, seeing that Mauro’s attitude towards userland doesn’t fly.\n \n The hardest-hitting sentence in that mail is actually “You have shown yourself to not be competent in this issue”. Absolutely devastating. Taking context into account it’s the equivalent of telling a professional cook that their ingredients suck, what they did with them sucks, and most of all that the gall which which they claimed that the customer is wrong about their dinner sucking is completely, and utterly, unprofessional.\n \n Of course that’s hard on Mauro. There’s no way to tell someone about such an epic cock-up without being hard. But not going that far, avoiding that hardship for some notion of civility, now that would be right-out cruel. 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If anything, then an idiot (indirectly, by saying “I don’t want to hear that kind of garbage and idiocy from a kernel maintainer again”.\n \n How many of the people complaining about the mail being abusive or whatnot actually read it. 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""" +rules: null +subscriptionsCount: 1 +entryCount: 398 +entryCommentCount: 11895 +postCount: 1 +postCommentCount: 0 +isAdult: false +customCss: null +lastActive: DateTime @1726884280 {#3171 : 2024-09-21 04:04:40.0 +02:00 } +markedForDeletionAt: null +tags: null +moderators: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3175 …} +ownershipRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3177 …} +moderatorRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3179 …} +entries: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3181 …} +posts: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3183 …} +subscriptions: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3185 …} +bans: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3191 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3199 …} +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3212 …} +logs: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3222 …} +awards: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3204 …} +categories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3228 …} -id: 83 +apId: "linuxmemes@lemmy.world" +apProfileId: "https://lemmy.world/c/linuxmemes" +apPublicUrl: "https://lemmy.world/c/linuxmemes" +apFollowersUrl: "https://lemmy.world/c/linuxmemes/followers" +apInboxUrl: "https://lemmy.world/inbox" +apDomain: "lemmy.world" +apPreferredUsername: "linuxmemes" +apDiscoverable: true +apManuallyApprovesFollowers: null +privateKey: null +publicKey: null +apFetchedAt: DateTime @1719076635 {#3172 : 2024-06-22 19:17:15.0 +02:00 } +apDeletedAt: null +apTimeoutAt: null +visibility: "visible " +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1699095615 {#3173 : 2023-11-04 12:00:15.0 +01:00 } +__isInitialized__: true …2 } +image: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#2199 …} +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#2267 …} +slug: "Linus-does-not-fuck-around" +title: "Linus does not fuck around" +url: "https://lemmy.one/pictrs/image/f5614afd-25b9-4afe-a003-00eab7c7fb34.png" +body: "An oldie, but a goodie" +type: "image" +lang: "en" +isOc: false +hasEmbed: true +commentCount: 471 +favouriteCount: 1556 +score: 0 +isAdult: false +sticky: false +lastActive: DateTime @1720068489 {#2101 : 2024-07-04 06:48:09.0 +02:00 } +ip: null +adaAmount: 0 +tags: null +mentions: null +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2268 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2266 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2200 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2246 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2260 …} +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2142 …} +children: [ 7 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1614 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +body: """ Nah it’s completely fine. I vastly prefer an angry-sounding takedown over a passive aggressive takedown and a takedown Mauro definitely deserved because his code was, in fact, utter shite, *and that as a maintainer*. This isn’t “oh he’s a noob he doesn’t know how the kernel works” type of territory. Also note that this happened *after* he had been told what’s up in a neutral and factual way: Linus, even in his most management by perkele days, never made those things the first reply to anything. So Mauro got his chance to spot that he fucked up and correct his approach, he didn’t, therefore, it has to be said loudly. Simple as that.\n \n Also, no “you should be aborted retroactively” in sight anywhere. Yeah that stuff wasn’t necessary even though everyone with an ounce of social intelligence should readily spot that those insults were always so over the top as to be obviously humorous. """ +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 40 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701954766 {#1438 : 2023-12-07 14:12:46.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@feddylemmy@lemmy.world" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1651 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1652 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1650 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1671 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1568 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1560 …} -id: 206416 -bodyTs: "'abort':127 'aggress':17 'also':57,122 'alway':154 'angri':11 'angry-sound':10 'anyth':93 'anywher':131 'approach':108 'chanc':98 'code':27 'complet':4 'correct':106 'day':84 'definit':23 'deserv':24 'didn':110 'doesn':47 'even':77,138 'everyon':140 'fact':30 'factual':74 'fine':5 'first':90 'fuck':103 'got':96 'happen':61 'humor':163 'insult':152 'intellig':146 'isn':39 'kernel':52 'know':49 'linus':76 'loud':118 'made':86 'maintain':37 'manag':81 'mauro':22,95 'nah':1 'necessari':137 'neutral':72 'never':85 'noob':45 'note':58 'obvious':162 'oh':41 'ounc':143 'passiv':16 'perkel':83 'prefer':8 'readili':148 'repli':91 'retroact':128 'said':117 'shite':32 'sight':130 'simpl':119 'social':145 'sound':12 'spot':100,149 'stuff':134 'takedown':13,18,21 'territori':56 'therefor':112 'thing':88 'though':139 'told':66 'top':158 'type':54 'utter':31 'vast':7 'wasn':135 'way':75 'work':53 'yeah':132" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7083419" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701954766 {#1700 : 2023-12-07 14:12:46.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206416 } 6 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1562 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1566 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1559 …} +body: "This is a message to an @redhat address, as you might notice. Mauro gets paid to work on the kernel and is not a noob who doesn’t know better, either, he’s a maintainer who fucked up basic maintenance." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 15 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701954818 {#1572 : 2023-12-07 14:13:38.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@jose1324@lemmy.world" "@redhat" "@Synthead@lemmy.world" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1548 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1554 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1556 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1555 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1620 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1604 …} -id: 206422 -bodyTs: "'address':8 'basic':39 'better':30 'doesn':27 'either':31 'fuck':37 'get':14 'kernel':20 'know':29 'maintain':35 'mainten':40 'mauro':13 'messag':4 'might':11 'noob':25 'notic':12 'paid':15 'redhat':7 'work':17" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7083443" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701954818 {#1563 : 2023-12-07 14:13:38.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206422 } 5 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1701 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1683 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +body: """ “being a dick” and “assertive” are weasel terms which do a hell a lot of lifting in your argument there. I have no idea where your line for behaviour to be deemed acceptable actually is.\n \n IMO, no, Linus wasn’t a dick. He called out a specific attitude and behaviour which Mauro is not supposed to show in his role as maintainer. What about Mauro being a dick because he went in all self-righteous like “this is a bug in pulseaudio”?\n \n If you were a restaurant manager, and a server told a customer that he’s not going to serve beer with steak but only wine because “drinking beer with steak is obviously wrong”, what would you do? Chew them out, of course. It’s way out of line. This isn’t Linus exploding over nothing just to bully someone, that’s a thing he has *never* done.\n \n If you want someone toxic to complain about in the FOSS space pick Lennart Poettering, the kind of guy who replies to “We’d like to be able to disable various features to keep things small” with “why do you hate disabled people they need accessibility”. More generally speaking: Focussing on tone never ends up well. You can be incredibly toxic in the most flowery of idioms. """ +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 11 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701959697 {#1619 : 2023-12-07 15:34:57.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@feddylemmy@lemmy.world" "@barsoap@lemm.ee" "@oatscoop@midwest.social" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1687 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1689 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1691 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1795 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1711 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1611 …} -id: 206639 -bodyTs: "'abl':178 'accept':33 'access':196 'actual':34 'argument':19 'assert':5 'attitud':48 'beer':103,111 'behaviour':29,50 'bug':81 'bulli':141 'call':44 'chew':121 'complain':157 'cours':125 'custom':95 'd':174 'deem':32 'dick':3,42,68 'disabl':180,192 'done':150 'drink':110 'end':204 'explod':136 'featur':182 'floweri':215 'focuss':200 'foss':161 'general':198 'go':100 'guy':169 'hate':191 'hell':12 'idea':24 'idiom':217 'imo':36 'incred':210 'isn':133 'keep':184 'kind':167 'lennart':164 'lift':16 'like':77,175 'line':27,131 'linus':38,135 'lot':14 'maintain':62 'manag':89 'mauro':52,65 'need':195 'never':149,203 'noth':138 'obvious':115 'peopl':193 'pick':163 'poetter':165 'pulseaudio':83 'repli':171 'restaur':88 'righteous':76 'role':60 'self':75 'self-right':74 'serv':102 'server':92 'show':57 'small':186 'someon':142,154 'space':162 'speak':199 'specif':47 'steak':105,113 'suppos':55 'term':8 'thing':146,185 'told':93 'tone':202 'toxic':155,211 'various':181 'want':153 'wasn':39 'way':128 'weasel':7 'well':206 'went':71 'wine':108 'would':118 'wrong':116" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7085819" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701959697 {#1702 : 2023-12-07 15:34:57.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206639 } 4 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1628} 3 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1737 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1734 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +body: """ > and being abusive\n \n There’s it again. What, precisely, is it that makes Linus’ comment “abusive”? Is he gaslighting? Is he attacking Mauro over what he is? All I see is calling out, harshly, what Mauro *did*, behaviour that actually occurred and that is not acceptable and that Mauro *knows* is not acceptable. “We do not break userspace” is the rule #1 of Linux development, Mauro ignored it *and* was a dick about it.\n \n Or do you disagree with the *tone* of the whole thing. Things like “Shut up” instead of “This is not up for discussion”. If so, then please for the love of the gods please shut up. """ +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 6 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701968575 {#1736 : 2023-12-07 18:02:55.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@feddylemmy@lemmy.world" "@barsoap@lemm.ee" "@oatscoop@midwest.social" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1732 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1735 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1729 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1719 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1714 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1720 …} -id: 207200 -bodyTs: "'1':62 'abus':3,16 'accept':46,53 'actual':40 'attack':22 'behaviour':38 'break':57 'call':32 'comment':15 'develop':65 'dick':72 'disagre':78 'discuss':97 'gaslight':19 'god':107 'harsh':34 'ignor':67 'instead':90 'know':50 'like':87 'linus':14 'linux':64 'love':104 'make':13 'mauro':23,36,49,66 'occur':41 'pleas':101,108 'precis':9 'rule':61 'see':30 'shut':88,109 'thing':85,86 'tone':81 'userspac':58 'whole':84" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7090782" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701968575 {#1730 : 2023-12-07 18:02:55.0 +01:00 } +"title": 207200 } 2 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1740 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1707 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1559 …} +body: "I just wish for all of us to become more accustomed to working on ourselves instead of projecting the need to develop virtue on others. Linus actually did it, doesn’t mean that he was an asshole before. Brash, sure, crass, yes, but actual assholes don’t calm down as easily." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 0 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701981074 {#1717 : 2023-12-07 21:31:14.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@jose1324@lemmy.world" "@redhat" "@Synthead@lemmy.world" "@barsoap@lemm.ee" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2465 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2463 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2411 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2422 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2458 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2456 …} -id: 208075 -bodyTs: "'accustom':11 'actual':27,44 'asshol':37,45 'becom':9 'brash':39 'calm':48 'crass':41 'develop':22 'doesn':30 'easili':51 'instead':16 'linus':26 'mean':32 'need':20 'other':25 'project':18 'sure':40 'us':7 'virtu':23 'wish':3 'work':13 'yes':42" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7097925" +editedAt: DateTimeImmutable @1703376112 {#1739 : 2023-12-24 01:01:52.0 +01:00 } +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701981074 {#1741 : 2023-12-07 21:31:14.0 +01:00 } +"title": 208075 } 1 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#2454 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#2455 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1559 …} +body: """ Current-day Linus wouldn’t react much differently. Cut the “shut the fuck up”, the one or other “fuck” (but not all, some need to be there for emphasis), done. It’s the real personal shit, the “should be aborted retroactively” stuff, that he cut out. “Obvious garbage and idiocy” is a technical term, programmers apply it to their own work all the time. Compilers are more technical in their language but we know what they mean.\n \n And was this mail, seen in its total impact, a hardship? He went down hard, yes, and thousands upon thousands of Linux *users* breathed a sigh of relief, seeing that Mauro’s attitude towards userland doesn’t fly.\n \n The hardest-hitting sentence in that mail is actually “You have shown yourself to not be competent in this issue”. Absolutely devastating. Taking context into account it’s the equivalent of telling a professional cook that their ingredients suck, what they did with them sucks, and most of all that the gall which which they claimed that the customer is wrong about their dinner sucking is completely, and utterly, unprofessional.\n \n Of course that’s hard on Mauro. There’s no way to tell someone about such an epic cock-up without being hard. But not going that far, avoiding that hardship for some notion of civility, now that would be right-out cruel. 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If anything, then an idiot (indirectly, by saying “I don’t want to hear that kind of garbage and idiocy from a kernel maintainer again”.\n \n How many of the people complaining about the mail being abusive or whatnot actually read it. 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Switcharoos with actual substance and everyone is way more humble." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 4 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701962246 {#1630 : 2023-12-07 16:17:26.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@feddylemmy@lemmy.world" "@Windex007@lemmy.world" "@interceder270@lemmy.world" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1599 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1625 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1617 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1725 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1722 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1726 …} -id: 206790 -bodyTs: "'actual':9 'everyon':12 'humbl':16 'lemmi':4 'reddit':6 'substanc':10 'switcharoo':7 'way':14 'yep':1" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7087266" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701962246 {#1629 : 2023-12-07 16:17:26.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206790 } +showMagazineName: false +showEntryTitle: false +showNested: false +level: 1 +canSeeTrash: false +dateAsUrl: true -requestStack: Symfony\Component\HttpFoundation\RequestStack {#1328 …} -authorizationChecker: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\AuthorizationChecker {#931 …} } |
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date | App\Twig\Components\DateComponent | 12.0 MiB | 0.14 ms | |
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Input props | [ "date" => DateTimeImmutable @1701962246 {#1629 : 2023-12-07 16:17:26.0 +01:00 } ] |
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Component | App\Twig\Components\DateComponent {#5907 +date: DateTimeImmutable @1701962246 {#1629 : 2023-12-07 16:17:26.0 +01:00 } } |
date_edited | App\Twig\Components\DateEditedComponent | 12.0 MiB | 0.09 ms | |
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Input props | [ "createdAt" => DateTimeImmutable @1701962246 {#1629 : 2023-12-07 16:17:26.0 +01:00 } "editedAt" => null ] |
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Component | App\Twig\Components\DateEditedComponent {#5961 +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701962246 {#1629 : 2023-12-07 16:17:26.0 +01:00 } +editedAt: null } |
user_avatar | App\Twig\Components\UserAvatarComponent | 12.0 MiB | 0.14 ms | |
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vote | App\Twig\Components\VoteComponent | 12.0 MiB | 0.44 ms | |
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Follow the site-wide rules and [code of conduct](https://join-lemmy.org/docs/code_of_conduct.html)2. Be civil 3. Post Linux-related content 4. No recent reposts Please report posts and comments that break these rules! 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I vastly prefer an angry-sounding takedown over a passive aggressive takedown and a takedown Mauro definitely deserved because his code was, in fact, utter shite, *and that as a maintainer*. This isn’t “oh he’s a noob he doesn’t know how the kernel works” type of territory. Also note that this happened *after* he had been told what’s up in a neutral and factual way: Linus, even in his most management by perkele days, never made those things the first reply to anything. So Mauro got his chance to spot that he fucked up and correct his approach, he didn’t, therefore, it has to be said loudly. Simple as that.\n \n Also, no “you should be aborted retroactively” in sight anywhere. Yeah that stuff wasn’t necessary even though everyone with an ounce of social intelligence should readily spot that those insults were always so over the top as to be obviously humorous. 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Mauro gets paid to work on the kernel and is not a noob who doesn’t know better, either, he’s a maintainer who fucked up basic maintenance." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 15 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701954818 {#1572 : 2023-12-07 14:13:38.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@jose1324@lemmy.world" "@redhat" "@Synthead@lemmy.world" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1548 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1554 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1556 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1555 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1620 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1604 …} -id: 206422 -bodyTs: "'address':8 'basic':39 'better':30 'doesn':27 'either':31 'fuck':37 'get':14 'kernel':20 'know':29 'maintain':35 'mainten':40 'mauro':13 'messag':4 'might':11 'noob':25 'notic':12 'paid':15 'redhat':7 'work':17" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7083443" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701954818 {#1563 : 2023-12-07 14:13:38.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206422 } 5 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1701 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1683 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +body: """ “being a dick” and “assertive” are weasel terms which do a hell a lot of lifting in your argument there. I have no idea where your line for behaviour to be deemed acceptable actually is.\n \n IMO, no, Linus wasn’t a dick. He called out a specific attitude and behaviour which Mauro is not supposed to show in his role as maintainer. What about Mauro being a dick because he went in all self-righteous like “this is a bug in pulseaudio”?\n \n If you were a restaurant manager, and a server told a customer that he’s not going to serve beer with steak but only wine because “drinking beer with steak is obviously wrong”, what would you do? Chew them out, of course. It’s way out of line. This isn’t Linus exploding over nothing just to bully someone, that’s a thing he has *never* done.\n \n If you want someone toxic to complain about in the FOSS space pick Lennart Poettering, the kind of guy who replies to “We’d like to be able to disable various features to keep things small” with “why do you hate disabled people they need accessibility”. More generally speaking: Focussing on tone never ends up well. You can be incredibly toxic in the most flowery of idioms. 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What, precisely, is it that makes Linus’ comment “abusive”? Is he gaslighting? Is he attacking Mauro over what he is? All I see is calling out, harshly, what Mauro *did*, behaviour that actually occurred and that is not acceptable and that Mauro *knows* is not acceptable. “We do not break userspace” is the rule #1 of Linux development, Mauro ignored it *and* was a dick about it.\n \n Or do you disagree with the *tone* of the whole thing. Things like “Shut up” instead of “This is not up for discussion”. If so, then please for the love of the gods please shut up. 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Linus actually did it, doesn’t mean that he was an asshole before. Brash, sure, crass, yes, but actual assholes don’t calm down as easily." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 0 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701981074 {#1717 : 2023-12-07 21:31:14.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@jose1324@lemmy.world" "@redhat" "@Synthead@lemmy.world" "@barsoap@lemm.ee" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2465 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2463 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2411 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2422 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2458 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2456 …} -id: 208075 -bodyTs: "'accustom':11 'actual':27,44 'asshol':37,45 'becom':9 'brash':39 'calm':48 'crass':41 'develop':22 'doesn':30 'easili':51 'instead':16 'linus':26 'mean':32 'need':20 'other':25 'project':18 'sure':40 'us':7 'virtu':23 'wish':3 'work':13 'yes':42" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7097925" +editedAt: DateTimeImmutable @1703376112 {#1739 : 2023-12-24 01:01:52.0 +01:00 } +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701981074 {#1741 : 2023-12-07 21:31:14.0 +01:00 } +"title": 208075 } 1 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#2454 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#2455 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1559 …} +body: """ Current-day Linus wouldn’t react much differently. Cut the “shut the fuck up”, the one or other “fuck” (but not all, some need to be there for emphasis), done. It’s the real personal shit, the “should be aborted retroactively” stuff, that he cut out. “Obvious garbage and idiocy” is a technical term, programmers apply it to their own work all the time. Compilers are more technical in their language but we know what they mean.\n \n And was this mail, seen in its total impact, a hardship? He went down hard, yes, and thousands upon thousands of Linux *users* breathed a sigh of relief, seeing that Mauro’s attitude towards userland doesn’t fly.\n \n The hardest-hitting sentence in that mail is actually “You have shown yourself to not be competent in this issue”. Absolutely devastating. Taking context into account it’s the equivalent of telling a professional cook that their ingredients suck, what they did with them sucks, and most of all that the gall which which they claimed that the customer is wrong about their dinner sucking is completely, and utterly, unprofessional.\n \n Of course that’s hard on Mauro. There’s no way to tell someone about such an epic cock-up without being hard. But not going that far, avoiding that hardship for some notion of civility, now that would be right-out cruel. 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If anything, then an idiot (indirectly, by saying “I don’t want to hear that kind of garbage and idiocy from a kernel maintainer again”.\n \n How many of the people complaining about the mail being abusive or whatnot actually read it. 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Switcharoos with actual substance and everyone is way more humble." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 4 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701962246 {#1630 : 2023-12-07 16:17:26.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@feddylemmy@lemmy.world" "@Windex007@lemmy.world" "@interceder270@lemmy.world" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1599 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1625 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1617 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1725 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1722 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1726 …} -id: 206790 -bodyTs: "'actual':9 'everyon':12 'humbl':16 'lemmi':4 'reddit':6 'substanc':10 'switcharoo':7 'way':14 'yep':1" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7087266" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701962246 {#1629 : 2023-12-07 16:17:26.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206790 } ] |
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---\n \n Sister communities:* [LemmyMemes](https://lemmy.world/c/memes@lemmy.world): Memes * [LemmyShitpost](https://lemmy.world/c/lemmyshitpost): Anything and everything goes. * [RISA](https://startrek.website/c/risa): Star Trek memes and shitposts\n \n Community rules1. Follow the site-wide rules and [code of conduct](https://join-lemmy.org/docs/code_of_conduct.html)2. Be civil 3. Post Linux-related content 4. No recent reposts Please report posts and comments that break these rules! 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I vastly prefer an angry-sounding takedown over a passive aggressive takedown and a takedown Mauro definitely deserved because his code was, in fact, utter shite, *and that as a maintainer*. This isn’t “oh he’s a noob he doesn’t know how the kernel works” type of territory. Also note that this happened *after* he had been told what’s up in a neutral and factual way: Linus, even in his most management by perkele days, never made those things the first reply to anything. So Mauro got his chance to spot that he fucked up and correct his approach, he didn’t, therefore, it has to be said loudly. Simple as that.\n \n Also, no “you should be aborted retroactively” in sight anywhere. Yeah that stuff wasn’t necessary even though everyone with an ounce of social intelligence should readily spot that those insults were always so over the top as to be obviously humorous. """ +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 40 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701954766 {#1438 : 2023-12-07 14:12:46.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@feddylemmy@lemmy.world" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1651 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1652 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1650 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1671 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1568 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1560 …} -id: 206416 -bodyTs: "'abort':127 'aggress':17 'also':57,122 'alway':154 'angri':11 'angry-sound':10 'anyth':93 'anywher':131 'approach':108 'chanc':98 'code':27 'complet':4 'correct':106 'day':84 'definit':23 'deserv':24 'didn':110 'doesn':47 'even':77,138 'everyon':140 'fact':30 'factual':74 'fine':5 'first':90 'fuck':103 'got':96 'happen':61 'humor':163 'insult':152 'intellig':146 'isn':39 'kernel':52 'know':49 'linus':76 'loud':118 'made':86 'maintain':37 'manag':81 'mauro':22,95 'nah':1 'necessari':137 'neutral':72 'never':85 'noob':45 'note':58 'obvious':162 'oh':41 'ounc':143 'passiv':16 'perkel':83 'prefer':8 'readili':148 'repli':91 'retroact':128 'said':117 'shite':32 'sight':130 'simpl':119 'social':145 'sound':12 'spot':100,149 'stuff':134 'takedown':13,18,21 'territori':56 'therefor':112 'thing':88 'though':139 'told':66 'top':158 'type':54 'utter':31 'vast':7 'wasn':135 'way':75 'work':53 'yeah':132" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7083419" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701954766 {#1700 : 2023-12-07 14:12:46.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206416 } 6 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1562 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1566 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1559 …} +body: "This is a message to an @redhat address, as you might notice. Mauro gets paid to work on the kernel and is not a noob who doesn’t know better, either, he’s a maintainer who fucked up basic maintenance." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 15 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701954818 {#1572 : 2023-12-07 14:13:38.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@jose1324@lemmy.world" "@redhat" "@Synthead@lemmy.world" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1548 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1554 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1556 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1555 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1620 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1604 …} -id: 206422 -bodyTs: "'address':8 'basic':39 'better':30 'doesn':27 'either':31 'fuck':37 'get':14 'kernel':20 'know':29 'maintain':35 'mainten':40 'mauro':13 'messag':4 'might':11 'noob':25 'notic':12 'paid':15 'redhat':7 'work':17" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7083443" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701954818 {#1563 : 2023-12-07 14:13:38.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206422 } 5 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1701 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1683 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +body: """ “being a dick” and “assertive” are weasel terms which do a hell a lot of lifting in your argument there. I have no idea where your line for behaviour to be deemed acceptable actually is.\n \n IMO, no, Linus wasn’t a dick. He called out a specific attitude and behaviour which Mauro is not supposed to show in his role as maintainer. What about Mauro being a dick because he went in all self-righteous like “this is a bug in pulseaudio”?\n \n If you were a restaurant manager, and a server told a customer that he’s not going to serve beer with steak but only wine because “drinking beer with steak is obviously wrong”, what would you do? Chew them out, of course. It’s way out of line. This isn’t Linus exploding over nothing just to bully someone, that’s a thing he has *never* done.\n \n If you want someone toxic to complain about in the FOSS space pick Lennart Poettering, the kind of guy who replies to “We’d like to be able to disable various features to keep things small” with “why do you hate disabled people they need accessibility”. More generally speaking: Focussing on tone never ends up well. You can be incredibly toxic in the most flowery of idioms. 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What, precisely, is it that makes Linus’ comment “abusive”? Is he gaslighting? Is he attacking Mauro over what he is? All I see is calling out, harshly, what Mauro *did*, behaviour that actually occurred and that is not acceptable and that Mauro *knows* is not acceptable. “We do not break userspace” is the rule #1 of Linux development, Mauro ignored it *and* was a dick about it.\n \n Or do you disagree with the *tone* of the whole thing. Things like “Shut up” instead of “This is not up for discussion”. If so, then please for the love of the gods please shut up. """ +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 6 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701968575 {#1736 : 2023-12-07 18:02:55.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@feddylemmy@lemmy.world" "@barsoap@lemm.ee" "@oatscoop@midwest.social" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1732 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1735 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1729 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1719 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1714 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1720 …} -id: 207200 -bodyTs: "'1':62 'abus':3,16 'accept':46,53 'actual':40 'attack':22 'behaviour':38 'break':57 'call':32 'comment':15 'develop':65 'dick':72 'disagre':78 'discuss':97 'gaslight':19 'god':107 'harsh':34 'ignor':67 'instead':90 'know':50 'like':87 'linus':14 'linux':64 'love':104 'make':13 'mauro':23,36,49,66 'occur':41 'pleas':101,108 'precis':9 'rule':61 'see':30 'shut':88,109 'thing':85,86 'tone':81 'userspac':58 'whole':84" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7090782" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701968575 {#1730 : 2023-12-07 18:02:55.0 +01:00 } +"title": 207200 } 2 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1740 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1707 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1559 …} +body: "I just wish for all of us to become more accustomed to working on ourselves instead of projecting the need to develop virtue on others. Linus actually did it, doesn’t mean that he was an asshole before. Brash, sure, crass, yes, but actual assholes don’t calm down as easily." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 0 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701981074 {#1717 : 2023-12-07 21:31:14.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@jose1324@lemmy.world" "@redhat" "@Synthead@lemmy.world" "@barsoap@lemm.ee" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2465 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2463 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2411 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2422 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2458 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2456 …} -id: 208075 -bodyTs: "'accustom':11 'actual':27,44 'asshol':37,45 'becom':9 'brash':39 'calm':48 'crass':41 'develop':22 'doesn':30 'easili':51 'instead':16 'linus':26 'mean':32 'need':20 'other':25 'project':18 'sure':40 'us':7 'virtu':23 'wish':3 'work':13 'yes':42" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7097925" +editedAt: DateTimeImmutable @1703376112 {#1739 : 2023-12-24 01:01:52.0 +01:00 } +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701981074 {#1741 : 2023-12-07 21:31:14.0 +01:00 } +"title": 208075 } 1 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#2454 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#2455 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1559 …} +body: """ Current-day Linus wouldn’t react much differently. Cut the “shut the fuck up”, the one or other “fuck” (but not all, some need to be there for emphasis), done. It’s the real personal shit, the “should be aborted retroactively” stuff, that he cut out. “Obvious garbage and idiocy” is a technical term, programmers apply it to their own work all the time. Compilers are more technical in their language but we know what they mean.\n \n And was this mail, seen in its total impact, a hardship? He went down hard, yes, and thousands upon thousands of Linux *users* breathed a sigh of relief, seeing that Mauro’s attitude towards userland doesn’t fly.\n \n The hardest-hitting sentence in that mail is actually “You have shown yourself to not be competent in this issue”. Absolutely devastating. Taking context into account it’s the equivalent of telling a professional cook that their ingredients suck, what they did with them sucks, and most of all that the gall which which they claimed that the customer is wrong about their dinner sucking is completely, and utterly, unprofessional.\n \n Of course that’s hard on Mauro. There’s no way to tell someone about such an epic cock-up without being hard. But not going that far, avoiding that hardship for some notion of civility, now that would be right-out cruel. 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If anything, then an idiot (indirectly, by saying “I don’t want to hear that kind of garbage and idiocy from a kernel maintainer again”.\n \n How many of the people complaining about the mail being abusive or whatnot actually read it. 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Follow the site-wide rules and [code of conduct](https://join-lemmy.org/docs/code_of_conduct.html)2. Be civil 3. Post Linux-related content 4. No recent reposts Please report posts and comments that break these rules! 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I vastly prefer an angry-sounding takedown over a passive aggressive takedown and a takedown Mauro definitely deserved because his code was, in fact, utter shite, *and that as a maintainer*. This isn’t “oh he’s a noob he doesn’t know how the kernel works” type of territory. Also note that this happened *after* he had been told what’s up in a neutral and factual way: Linus, even in his most management by perkele days, never made those things the first reply to anything. So Mauro got his chance to spot that he fucked up and correct his approach, he didn’t, therefore, it has to be said loudly. Simple as that.\n \n Also, no “you should be aborted retroactively” in sight anywhere. Yeah that stuff wasn’t necessary even though everyone with an ounce of social intelligence should readily spot that those insults were always so over the top as to be obviously humorous. 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Mauro gets paid to work on the kernel and is not a noob who doesn’t know better, either, he’s a maintainer who fucked up basic maintenance." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 15 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701954818 {#1572 : 2023-12-07 14:13:38.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@jose1324@lemmy.world" "@redhat" "@Synthead@lemmy.world" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1548 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1554 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1556 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1555 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1620 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1604 …} -id: 206422 -bodyTs: "'address':8 'basic':39 'better':30 'doesn':27 'either':31 'fuck':37 'get':14 'kernel':20 'know':29 'maintain':35 'mainten':40 'mauro':13 'messag':4 'might':11 'noob':25 'notic':12 'paid':15 'redhat':7 'work':17" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7083443" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701954818 {#1563 : 2023-12-07 14:13:38.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206422 } 5 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1701 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1683 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +body: """ “being a dick” and “assertive” are weasel terms which do a hell a lot of lifting in your argument there. I have no idea where your line for behaviour to be deemed acceptable actually is.\n \n IMO, no, Linus wasn’t a dick. He called out a specific attitude and behaviour which Mauro is not supposed to show in his role as maintainer. What about Mauro being a dick because he went in all self-righteous like “this is a bug in pulseaudio”?\n \n If you were a restaurant manager, and a server told a customer that he’s not going to serve beer with steak but only wine because “drinking beer with steak is obviously wrong”, what would you do? Chew them out, of course. It’s way out of line. This isn’t Linus exploding over nothing just to bully someone, that’s a thing he has *never* done.\n \n If you want someone toxic to complain about in the FOSS space pick Lennart Poettering, the kind of guy who replies to “We’d like to be able to disable various features to keep things small” with “why do you hate disabled people they need accessibility”. More generally speaking: Focussing on tone never ends up well. You can be incredibly toxic in the most flowery of idioms. 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What, precisely, is it that makes Linus’ comment “abusive”? Is he gaslighting? Is he attacking Mauro over what he is? All I see is calling out, harshly, what Mauro *did*, behaviour that actually occurred and that is not acceptable and that Mauro *knows* is not acceptable. “We do not break userspace” is the rule #1 of Linux development, Mauro ignored it *and* was a dick about it.\n \n Or do you disagree with the *tone* of the whole thing. Things like “Shut up” instead of “This is not up for discussion”. If so, then please for the love of the gods please shut up. 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Linus actually did it, doesn’t mean that he was an asshole before. Brash, sure, crass, yes, but actual assholes don’t calm down as easily." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 0 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701981074 {#1717 : 2023-12-07 21:31:14.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@jose1324@lemmy.world" "@redhat" "@Synthead@lemmy.world" "@barsoap@lemm.ee" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2465 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2463 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2411 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2422 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2458 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2456 …} -id: 208075 -bodyTs: "'accustom':11 'actual':27,44 'asshol':37,45 'becom':9 'brash':39 'calm':48 'crass':41 'develop':22 'doesn':30 'easili':51 'instead':16 'linus':26 'mean':32 'need':20 'other':25 'project':18 'sure':40 'us':7 'virtu':23 'wish':3 'work':13 'yes':42" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7097925" +editedAt: DateTimeImmutable @1703376112 {#1739 : 2023-12-24 01:01:52.0 +01:00 } +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701981074 {#1741 : 2023-12-07 21:31:14.0 +01:00 } +"title": 208075 } 1 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#2454 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#2455 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1559 …} +body: """ Current-day Linus wouldn’t react much differently. Cut the “shut the fuck up”, the one or other “fuck” (but not all, some need to be there for emphasis), done. It’s the real personal shit, the “should be aborted retroactively” stuff, that he cut out. “Obvious garbage and idiocy” is a technical term, programmers apply it to their own work all the time. Compilers are more technical in their language but we know what they mean.\n \n And was this mail, seen in its total impact, a hardship? He went down hard, yes, and thousands upon thousands of Linux *users* breathed a sigh of relief, seeing that Mauro’s attitude towards userland doesn’t fly.\n \n The hardest-hitting sentence in that mail is actually “You have shown yourself to not be competent in this issue”. Absolutely devastating. Taking context into account it’s the equivalent of telling a professional cook that their ingredients suck, what they did with them sucks, and most of all that the gall which which they claimed that the customer is wrong about their dinner sucking is completely, and utterly, unprofessional.\n \n Of course that’s hard on Mauro. There’s no way to tell someone about such an epic cock-up without being hard. But not going that far, avoiding that hardship for some notion of civility, now that would be right-out cruel. 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If anything, then an idiot (indirectly, by saying “I don’t want to hear that kind of garbage and idiocy from a kernel maintainer again”.\n \n How many of the people complaining about the mail being abusive or whatnot actually read it. 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I vastly prefer an angry-sounding takedown over a passive aggressive takedown and a takedown Mauro definitely deserved because his code was, in fact, utter shite, *and that as a maintainer*. This isn’t “oh he’s a noob he doesn’t know how the kernel works” type of territory. Also note that this happened *after* he had been told what’s up in a neutral and factual way: Linus, even in his most management by perkele days, never made those things the first reply to anything. So Mauro got his chance to spot that he fucked up and correct his approach, he didn’t, therefore, it has to be said loudly. Simple as that.\n \n Also, no “you should be aborted retroactively” in sight anywhere. Yeah that stuff wasn’t necessary even though everyone with an ounce of social intelligence should readily spot that those insults were always so over the top as to be obviously humorous. 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Mauro gets paid to work on the kernel and is not a noob who doesn’t know better, either, he’s a maintainer who fucked up basic maintenance." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 15 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701954818 {#1572 : 2023-12-07 14:13:38.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@jose1324@lemmy.world" "@redhat" "@Synthead@lemmy.world" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1548 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1554 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1556 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1555 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1620 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1604 …} -id: 206422 -bodyTs: "'address':8 'basic':39 'better':30 'doesn':27 'either':31 'fuck':37 'get':14 'kernel':20 'know':29 'maintain':35 'mainten':40 'mauro':13 'messag':4 'might':11 'noob':25 'notic':12 'paid':15 'redhat':7 'work':17" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7083443" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701954818 {#1563 : 2023-12-07 14:13:38.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206422 } 5 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1701 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1683 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +body: """ “being a dick” and “assertive” are weasel terms which do a hell a lot of lifting in your argument there. I have no idea where your line for behaviour to be deemed acceptable actually is.\n \n IMO, no, Linus wasn’t a dick. He called out a specific attitude and behaviour which Mauro is not supposed to show in his role as maintainer. What about Mauro being a dick because he went in all self-righteous like “this is a bug in pulseaudio”?\n \n If you were a restaurant manager, and a server told a customer that he’s not going to serve beer with steak but only wine because “drinking beer with steak is obviously wrong”, what would you do? Chew them out, of course. It’s way out of line. This isn’t Linus exploding over nothing just to bully someone, that’s a thing he has *never* done.\n \n If you want someone toxic to complain about in the FOSS space pick Lennart Poettering, the kind of guy who replies to “We’d like to be able to disable various features to keep things small” with “why do you hate disabled people they need accessibility”. More generally speaking: Focussing on tone never ends up well. You can be incredibly toxic in the most flowery of idioms. 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What, precisely, is it that makes Linus’ comment “abusive”? Is he gaslighting? Is he attacking Mauro over what he is? All I see is calling out, harshly, what Mauro *did*, behaviour that actually occurred and that is not acceptable and that Mauro *knows* is not acceptable. “We do not break userspace” is the rule #1 of Linux development, Mauro ignored it *and* was a dick about it.\n \n Or do you disagree with the *tone* of the whole thing. Things like “Shut up” instead of “This is not up for discussion”. If so, then please for the love of the gods please shut up. 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Linus actually did it, doesn’t mean that he was an asshole before. Brash, sure, crass, yes, but actual assholes don’t calm down as easily." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 0 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701981074 {#1717 : 2023-12-07 21:31:14.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@jose1324@lemmy.world" "@redhat" "@Synthead@lemmy.world" "@barsoap@lemm.ee" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2465 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2463 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2411 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2422 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2458 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2456 …} -id: 208075 -bodyTs: "'accustom':11 'actual':27,44 'asshol':37,45 'becom':9 'brash':39 'calm':48 'crass':41 'develop':22 'doesn':30 'easili':51 'instead':16 'linus':26 'mean':32 'need':20 'other':25 'project':18 'sure':40 'us':7 'virtu':23 'wish':3 'work':13 'yes':42" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7097925" +editedAt: DateTimeImmutable @1703376112 {#1739 : 2023-12-24 01:01:52.0 +01:00 } +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701981074 {#1741 : 2023-12-07 21:31:14.0 +01:00 } +"title": 208075 } 1 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#2454 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#2455 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1559 …} +body: """ Current-day Linus wouldn’t react much differently. Cut the “shut the fuck up”, the one or other “fuck” (but not all, some need to be there for emphasis), done. It’s the real personal shit, the “should be aborted retroactively” stuff, that he cut out. “Obvious garbage and idiocy” is a technical term, programmers apply it to their own work all the time. Compilers are more technical in their language but we know what they mean.\n \n And was this mail, seen in its total impact, a hardship? He went down hard, yes, and thousands upon thousands of Linux *users* breathed a sigh of relief, seeing that Mauro’s attitude towards userland doesn’t fly.\n \n The hardest-hitting sentence in that mail is actually “You have shown yourself to not be competent in this issue”. Absolutely devastating. Taking context into account it’s the equivalent of telling a professional cook that their ingredients suck, what they did with them sucks, and most of all that the gall which which they claimed that the customer is wrong about their dinner sucking is completely, and utterly, unprofessional.\n \n Of course that’s hard on Mauro. There’s no way to tell someone about such an epic cock-up without being hard. But not going that far, avoiding that hardship for some notion of civility, now that would be right-out cruel. 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If anything, then an idiot (indirectly, by saying “I don’t want to hear that kind of garbage and idiocy from a kernel maintainer again”.\n \n How many of the people complaining about the mail being abusive or whatnot actually read it. 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Switcharoos with actual substance and everyone is way more humble." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 4 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701962246 {#1630 : 2023-12-07 16:17:26.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@feddylemmy@lemmy.world" "@Windex007@lemmy.world" "@interceder270@lemmy.world" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1599 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1625 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1617 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1725 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1722 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1726 …} -id: 206790 -bodyTs: "'actual':9 'everyon':12 'humbl':16 'lemmi':4 'reddit':6 'substanc':10 'switcharoo':7 'way':14 'yep':1" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7087266" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701962246 {#1629 : 2023-12-07 16:17:26.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206790 } -cache: Symfony\Component\Cache\Adapter\TraceableTagAwareAdapter {#600 …} } |
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[LemmyMemes](https://lemmy.world/c/memes@lemmy.world): Memes * [LemmyShitpost](https://lemmy.world/c/lemmyshitpost): Anything and everything goes. * [RISA](https://startrek.website/c/risa): Star Trek memes and shitposts\n \n Community rules1. Follow the site-wide rules and [code of conduct](https://join-lemmy.org/docs/code_of_conduct.html)2. Be civil 3. Post Linux-related content 4. No recent reposts Please report posts and comments that break these rules! """ +rules: null +subscriptionsCount: 1 +entryCount: 398 +entryCommentCount: 11895 +postCount: 1 +postCommentCount: 0 +isAdult: false +customCss: null +lastActive: DateTime @1726884280 {#3171 : 2024-09-21 04:04:40.0 +02:00 } +markedForDeletionAt: null +tags: null +moderators: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3175 …} +ownershipRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3177 …} +moderatorRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3179 …} +entries: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3181 …} +posts: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3183 …} +subscriptions: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3185 …} +bans: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3191 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3199 …} +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3212 …} +logs: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3222 …} +awards: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3204 …} +categories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3228 …} -id: 83 +apId: "linuxmemes@lemmy.world" +apProfileId: "https://lemmy.world/c/linuxmemes" +apPublicUrl: "https://lemmy.world/c/linuxmemes" +apFollowersUrl: "https://lemmy.world/c/linuxmemes/followers" +apInboxUrl: "https://lemmy.world/inbox" +apDomain: "lemmy.world" +apPreferredUsername: "linuxmemes" +apDiscoverable: true +apManuallyApprovesFollowers: null +privateKey: null +publicKey: null +apFetchedAt: DateTime @1719076635 {#3172 : 2024-06-22 19:17:15.0 +02:00 } +apDeletedAt: null +apTimeoutAt: null +visibility: "visible " +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1699095615 {#3173 : 2023-11-04 12:00:15.0 +01:00 } +__isInitialized__: true …2 } +image: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#2199 …} +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#2267 …} +slug: "Linus-does-not-fuck-around" +title: "Linus does not fuck around" +url: "https://lemmy.one/pictrs/image/f5614afd-25b9-4afe-a003-00eab7c7fb34.png" +body: "An oldie, but a goodie" +type: "image" +lang: "en" +isOc: false +hasEmbed: true +commentCount: 471 +favouriteCount: 1556 +score: 0 +isAdult: false +sticky: false +lastActive: DateTime @1720068489 {#2101 : 2024-07-04 06:48:09.0 +02:00 } +ip: null +adaAmount: 0 +tags: null +mentions: null +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2268 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2266 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2200 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2246 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2260 …} +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2142 …} +children: [ 7 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1614 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +body: """ Nah it’s completely fine. I vastly prefer an angry-sounding takedown over a passive aggressive takedown and a takedown Mauro definitely deserved because his code was, in fact, utter shite, *and that as a maintainer*. This isn’t “oh he’s a noob he doesn’t know how the kernel works” type of territory. Also note that this happened *after* he had been told what’s up in a neutral and factual way: Linus, even in his most management by perkele days, never made those things the first reply to anything. So Mauro got his chance to spot that he fucked up and correct his approach, he didn’t, therefore, it has to be said loudly. Simple as that.\n \n Also, no “you should be aborted retroactively” in sight anywhere. Yeah that stuff wasn’t necessary even though everyone with an ounce of social intelligence should readily spot that those insults were always so over the top as to be obviously humorous. """ +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 40 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701954766 {#1438 : 2023-12-07 14:12:46.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@feddylemmy@lemmy.world" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1651 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1652 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1650 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1671 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1568 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1560 …} -id: 206416 -bodyTs: "'abort':127 'aggress':17 'also':57,122 'alway':154 'angri':11 'angry-sound':10 'anyth':93 'anywher':131 'approach':108 'chanc':98 'code':27 'complet':4 'correct':106 'day':84 'definit':23 'deserv':24 'didn':110 'doesn':47 'even':77,138 'everyon':140 'fact':30 'factual':74 'fine':5 'first':90 'fuck':103 'got':96 'happen':61 'humor':163 'insult':152 'intellig':146 'isn':39 'kernel':52 'know':49 'linus':76 'loud':118 'made':86 'maintain':37 'manag':81 'mauro':22,95 'nah':1 'necessari':137 'neutral':72 'never':85 'noob':45 'note':58 'obvious':162 'oh':41 'ounc':143 'passiv':16 'perkel':83 'prefer':8 'readili':148 'repli':91 'retroact':128 'said':117 'shite':32 'sight':130 'simpl':119 'social':145 'sound':12 'spot':100,149 'stuff':134 'takedown':13,18,21 'territori':56 'therefor':112 'thing':88 'though':139 'told':66 'top':158 'type':54 'utter':31 'vast':7 'wasn':135 'way':75 'work':53 'yeah':132" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7083419" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701954766 {#1700 : 2023-12-07 14:12:46.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206416 } 6 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1562 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1566 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1559 …} +body: "This is a message to an @redhat address, as you might notice. Mauro gets paid to work on the kernel and is not a noob who doesn’t know better, either, he’s a maintainer who fucked up basic maintenance." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 15 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701954818 {#1572 : 2023-12-07 14:13:38.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@jose1324@lemmy.world" "@redhat" "@Synthead@lemmy.world" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1548 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1554 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1556 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1555 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1620 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1604 …} -id: 206422 -bodyTs: "'address':8 'basic':39 'better':30 'doesn':27 'either':31 'fuck':37 'get':14 'kernel':20 'know':29 'maintain':35 'mainten':40 'mauro':13 'messag':4 'might':11 'noob':25 'notic':12 'paid':15 'redhat':7 'work':17" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7083443" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701954818 {#1563 : 2023-12-07 14:13:38.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206422 } 5 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1701 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1683 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +body: """ “being a dick” and “assertive” are weasel terms which do a hell a lot of lifting in your argument there. I have no idea where your line for behaviour to be deemed acceptable actually is.\n \n IMO, no, Linus wasn’t a dick. He called out a specific attitude and behaviour which Mauro is not supposed to show in his role as maintainer. What about Mauro being a dick because he went in all self-righteous like “this is a bug in pulseaudio”?\n \n If you were a restaurant manager, and a server told a customer that he’s not going to serve beer with steak but only wine because “drinking beer with steak is obviously wrong”, what would you do? Chew them out, of course. It’s way out of line. This isn’t Linus exploding over nothing just to bully someone, that’s a thing he has *never* done.\n \n If you want someone toxic to complain about in the FOSS space pick Lennart Poettering, the kind of guy who replies to “We’d like to be able to disable various features to keep things small” with “why do you hate disabled people they need accessibility”. More generally speaking: Focussing on tone never ends up well. You can be incredibly toxic in the most flowery of idioms. 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Switcharoos with actual substance and everyone is way more humble." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 4 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701962246 {#1630 : 2023-12-07 16:17:26.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@feddylemmy@lemmy.world" "@Windex007@lemmy.world" "@interceder270@lemmy.world" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1599 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1625 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1617 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1725 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1722 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1726 …} -id: 206790 -bodyTs: "'actual':9 'everyon':12 'humbl':16 'lemmi':4 'reddit':6 'substanc':10 'switcharoo':7 'way':14 'yep':1" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7087266" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701962246 {#1629 : 2023-12-07 16:17:26.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206790 } 3 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1737} 2 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1740 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1707 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1559 …} +body: "I just wish for all of us to become more accustomed to working on ourselves instead of projecting the need to develop virtue on others. Linus actually did it, doesn’t mean that he was an asshole before. Brash, sure, crass, yes, but actual assholes don’t calm down as easily." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 0 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701981074 {#1717 : 2023-12-07 21:31:14.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@jose1324@lemmy.world" "@redhat" "@Synthead@lemmy.world" "@barsoap@lemm.ee" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2465 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2463 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2411 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2422 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2458 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2456 …} -id: 208075 -bodyTs: "'accustom':11 'actual':27,44 'asshol':37,45 'becom':9 'brash':39 'calm':48 'crass':41 'develop':22 'doesn':30 'easili':51 'instead':16 'linus':26 'mean':32 'need':20 'other':25 'project':18 'sure':40 'us':7 'virtu':23 'wish':3 'work':13 'yes':42" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7097925" +editedAt: DateTimeImmutable @1703376112 {#1739 : 2023-12-24 01:01:52.0 +01:00 } +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701981074 {#1741 : 2023-12-07 21:31:14.0 +01:00 } +"title": 208075 } 1 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#2454 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#2455 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1559 …} +body: """ Current-day Linus wouldn’t react much differently. Cut the “shut the fuck up”, the one or other “fuck” (but not all, some need to be there for emphasis), done. It’s the real personal shit, the “should be aborted retroactively” stuff, that he cut out. “Obvious garbage and idiocy” is a technical term, programmers apply it to their own work all the time. Compilers are more technical in their language but we know what they mean.\n \n And was this mail, seen in its total impact, a hardship? He went down hard, yes, and thousands upon thousands of Linux *users* breathed a sigh of relief, seeing that Mauro’s attitude towards userland doesn’t fly.\n \n The hardest-hitting sentence in that mail is actually “You have shown yourself to not be competent in this issue”. Absolutely devastating. Taking context into account it’s the equivalent of telling a professional cook that their ingredients suck, what they did with them sucks, and most of all that the gall which which they claimed that the customer is wrong about their dinner sucking is completely, and utterly, unprofessional.\n \n Of course that’s hard on Mauro. There’s no way to tell someone about such an epic cock-up without being hard. But not going that far, avoiding that hardship for some notion of civility, now that would be right-out cruel. 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If anything, then an idiot (indirectly, by saying “I don’t want to hear that kind of garbage and idiocy from a kernel maintainer again”.\n \n How many of the people complaining about the mail being abusive or whatnot actually read it. 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What, precisely, is it that makes Linus’ comment “abusive”? Is he gaslighting? Is he attacking Mauro over what he is? All I see is calling out, harshly, what Mauro *did*, behaviour that actually occurred and that is not acceptable and that Mauro *knows* is not acceptable. “We do not break userspace” is the rule #1 of Linux development, Mauro ignored it *and* was a dick about it.\n \n Or do you disagree with the *tone* of the whole thing. Things like “Shut up” instead of “This is not up for discussion”. If so, then please for the love of the gods please shut up. 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I vastly prefer an angry-sounding takedown over a passive aggressive takedown and a takedown Mauro definitely deserved because his code was, in fact, utter shite, *and that as a maintainer*. This isn’t “oh he’s a noob he doesn’t know how the kernel works” type of territory. Also note that this happened *after* he had been told what’s up in a neutral and factual way: Linus, even in his most management by perkele days, never made those things the first reply to anything. So Mauro got his chance to spot that he fucked up and correct his approach, he didn’t, therefore, it has to be said loudly. Simple as that.\n \n Also, no “you should be aborted retroactively” in sight anywhere. Yeah that stuff wasn’t necessary even though everyone with an ounce of social intelligence should readily spot that those insults were always so over the top as to be obviously humorous. 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Mauro gets paid to work on the kernel and is not a noob who doesn’t know better, either, he’s a maintainer who fucked up basic maintenance." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 15 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701954818 {#1572 : 2023-12-07 14:13:38.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@jose1324@lemmy.world" "@redhat" "@Synthead@lemmy.world" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1548 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1554 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1556 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1555 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1620 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1604 …} -id: 206422 -bodyTs: "'address':8 'basic':39 'better':30 'doesn':27 'either':31 'fuck':37 'get':14 'kernel':20 'know':29 'maintain':35 'mainten':40 'mauro':13 'messag':4 'might':11 'noob':25 'notic':12 'paid':15 'redhat':7 'work':17" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7083443" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701954818 {#1563 : 2023-12-07 14:13:38.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206422 } 5 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1701 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1683 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +body: """ “being a dick” and “assertive” are weasel terms which do a hell a lot of lifting in your argument there. I have no idea where your line for behaviour to be deemed acceptable actually is.\n \n IMO, no, Linus wasn’t a dick. He called out a specific attitude and behaviour which Mauro is not supposed to show in his role as maintainer. What about Mauro being a dick because he went in all self-righteous like “this is a bug in pulseaudio”?\n \n If you were a restaurant manager, and a server told a customer that he’s not going to serve beer with steak but only wine because “drinking beer with steak is obviously wrong”, what would you do? Chew them out, of course. It’s way out of line. This isn’t Linus exploding over nothing just to bully someone, that’s a thing he has *never* done.\n \n If you want someone toxic to complain about in the FOSS space pick Lennart Poettering, the kind of guy who replies to “We’d like to be able to disable various features to keep things small” with “why do you hate disabled people they need accessibility”. More generally speaking: Focussing on tone never ends up well. You can be incredibly toxic in the most flowery of idioms. 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Switcharoos with actual substance and everyone is way more humble." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 4 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701962246 {#1630 : 2023-12-07 16:17:26.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@feddylemmy@lemmy.world" "@Windex007@lemmy.world" "@interceder270@lemmy.world" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1599 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1625 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1617 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1725 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1722 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1726 …} -id: 206790 -bodyTs: "'actual':9 'everyon':12 'humbl':16 'lemmi':4 'reddit':6 'substanc':10 'switcharoo':7 'way':14 'yep':1" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7087266" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701962246 {#1629 : 2023-12-07 16:17:26.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206790 } 3 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1737} 2 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1740 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1707 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1559 …} +body: "I just wish for all of us to become more accustomed to working on ourselves instead of projecting the need to develop virtue on others. Linus actually did it, doesn’t mean that he was an asshole before. Brash, sure, crass, yes, but actual assholes don’t calm down as easily." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 0 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701981074 {#1717 : 2023-12-07 21:31:14.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@jose1324@lemmy.world" "@redhat" "@Synthead@lemmy.world" "@barsoap@lemm.ee" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2465 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2463 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2411 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2422 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2458 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2456 …} -id: 208075 -bodyTs: "'accustom':11 'actual':27,44 'asshol':37,45 'becom':9 'brash':39 'calm':48 'crass':41 'develop':22 'doesn':30 'easili':51 'instead':16 'linus':26 'mean':32 'need':20 'other':25 'project':18 'sure':40 'us':7 'virtu':23 'wish':3 'work':13 'yes':42" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7097925" +editedAt: DateTimeImmutable @1703376112 {#1739 : 2023-12-24 01:01:52.0 +01:00 } +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701981074 {#1741 : 2023-12-07 21:31:14.0 +01:00 } +"title": 208075 } 1 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#2454 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#2455 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1559 …} +body: """ Current-day Linus wouldn’t react much differently. Cut the “shut the fuck up”, the one or other “fuck” (but not all, some need to be there for emphasis), done. It’s the real personal shit, the “should be aborted retroactively” stuff, that he cut out. “Obvious garbage and idiocy” is a technical term, programmers apply it to their own work all the time. Compilers are more technical in their language but we know what they mean.\n \n And was this mail, seen in its total impact, a hardship? He went down hard, yes, and thousands upon thousands of Linux *users* breathed a sigh of relief, seeing that Mauro’s attitude towards userland doesn’t fly.\n \n The hardest-hitting sentence in that mail is actually “You have shown yourself to not be competent in this issue”. Absolutely devastating. Taking context into account it’s the equivalent of telling a professional cook that their ingredients suck, what they did with them sucks, and most of all that the gall which which they claimed that the customer is wrong about their dinner sucking is completely, and utterly, unprofessional.\n \n Of course that’s hard on Mauro. There’s no way to tell someone about such an epic cock-up without being hard. But not going that far, avoiding that hardship for some notion of civility, now that would be right-out cruel. 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If anything, then an idiot (indirectly, by saying “I don’t want to hear that kind of garbage and idiocy from a kernel maintainer again”.\n \n How many of the people complaining about the mail being abusive or whatnot actually read it. 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What, precisely, is it that makes Linus’ comment “abusive”? Is he gaslighting? Is he attacking Mauro over what he is? All I see is calling out, harshly, what Mauro *did*, behaviour that actually occurred and that is not acceptable and that Mauro *knows* is not acceptable. “We do not break userspace” is the rule #1 of Linux development, Mauro ignored it *and* was a dick about it.\n \n Or do you disagree with the *tone* of the whole thing. Things like “Shut up” instead of “This is not up for discussion”. If so, then please for the love of the gods please shut up. 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[LemmyMemes](https://lemmy.world/c/memes@lemmy.world): Memes * [LemmyShitpost](https://lemmy.world/c/lemmyshitpost): Anything and everything goes. * [RISA](https://startrek.website/c/risa): Star Trek memes and shitposts\n \n Community rules1. Follow the site-wide rules and [code of conduct](https://join-lemmy.org/docs/code_of_conduct.html)2. Be civil 3. Post Linux-related content 4. No recent reposts Please report posts and comments that break these rules! """ +rules: null +subscriptionsCount: 1 +entryCount: 398 +entryCommentCount: 11895 +postCount: 1 +postCommentCount: 0 +isAdult: false +customCss: null +lastActive: DateTime @1726884280 {#3171 : 2024-09-21 04:04:40.0 +02:00 } +markedForDeletionAt: null +tags: null +moderators: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3175 …} +ownershipRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3177 …} +moderatorRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3179 …} +entries: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3181 …} +posts: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3183 …} +subscriptions: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3185 …} +bans: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3191 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3199 …} +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3212 …} +logs: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3222 …} +awards: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3204 …} +categories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3228 …} -id: 83 +apId: "linuxmemes@lemmy.world" +apProfileId: "https://lemmy.world/c/linuxmemes" +apPublicUrl: "https://lemmy.world/c/linuxmemes" +apFollowersUrl: "https://lemmy.world/c/linuxmemes/followers" +apInboxUrl: "https://lemmy.world/inbox" +apDomain: "lemmy.world" +apPreferredUsername: "linuxmemes" +apDiscoverable: true +apManuallyApprovesFollowers: null +privateKey: null +publicKey: null +apFetchedAt: DateTime @1719076635 {#3172 : 2024-06-22 19:17:15.0 +02:00 } +apDeletedAt: null +apTimeoutAt: null +visibility: "visible " +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1699095615 {#3173 : 2023-11-04 12:00:15.0 +01:00 } +__isInitialized__: true …2 } +image: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#2199 …} +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#2267 …} +slug: "Linus-does-not-fuck-around" +title: "Linus does not fuck around" +url: "https://lemmy.one/pictrs/image/f5614afd-25b9-4afe-a003-00eab7c7fb34.png" +body: "An oldie, but a goodie" +type: "image" +lang: "en" +isOc: false +hasEmbed: true +commentCount: 471 +favouriteCount: 1556 +score: 0 +isAdult: false +sticky: false +lastActive: DateTime @1720068489 {#2101 : 2024-07-04 06:48:09.0 +02:00 } +ip: null +adaAmount: 0 +tags: null +mentions: null +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2268 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2266 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2200 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2246 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2260 …} +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2142 …} +children: [ 7 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1614 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +body: """ Nah it’s completely fine. I vastly prefer an angry-sounding takedown over a passive aggressive takedown and a takedown Mauro definitely deserved because his code was, in fact, utter shite, *and that as a maintainer*. This isn’t “oh he’s a noob he doesn’t know how the kernel works” type of territory. Also note that this happened *after* he had been told what’s up in a neutral and factual way: Linus, even in his most management by perkele days, never made those things the first reply to anything. So Mauro got his chance to spot that he fucked up and correct his approach, he didn’t, therefore, it has to be said loudly. Simple as that.\n \n Also, no “you should be aborted retroactively” in sight anywhere. Yeah that stuff wasn’t necessary even though everyone with an ounce of social intelligence should readily spot that those insults were always so over the top as to be obviously humorous. """ +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 40 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701954766 {#1438 : 2023-12-07 14:12:46.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@feddylemmy@lemmy.world" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1651 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1652 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1650 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1671 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1568 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1560 …} -id: 206416 -bodyTs: "'abort':127 'aggress':17 'also':57,122 'alway':154 'angri':11 'angry-sound':10 'anyth':93 'anywher':131 'approach':108 'chanc':98 'code':27 'complet':4 'correct':106 'day':84 'definit':23 'deserv':24 'didn':110 'doesn':47 'even':77,138 'everyon':140 'fact':30 'factual':74 'fine':5 'first':90 'fuck':103 'got':96 'happen':61 'humor':163 'insult':152 'intellig':146 'isn':39 'kernel':52 'know':49 'linus':76 'loud':118 'made':86 'maintain':37 'manag':81 'mauro':22,95 'nah':1 'necessari':137 'neutral':72 'never':85 'noob':45 'note':58 'obvious':162 'oh':41 'ounc':143 'passiv':16 'perkel':83 'prefer':8 'readili':148 'repli':91 'retroact':128 'said':117 'shite':32 'sight':130 'simpl':119 'social':145 'sound':12 'spot':100,149 'stuff':134 'takedown':13,18,21 'territori':56 'therefor':112 'thing':88 'though':139 'told':66 'top':158 'type':54 'utter':31 'vast':7 'wasn':135 'way':75 'work':53 'yeah':132" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7083419" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701954766 {#1700 : 2023-12-07 14:12:46.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206416 } 6 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1562 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1566 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1559 …} +body: "This is a message to an @redhat address, as you might notice. Mauro gets paid to work on the kernel and is not a noob who doesn’t know better, either, he’s a maintainer who fucked up basic maintenance." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 15 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701954818 {#1572 : 2023-12-07 14:13:38.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@jose1324@lemmy.world" "@redhat" "@Synthead@lemmy.world" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1548 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1554 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1556 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1555 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1620 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1604 …} -id: 206422 -bodyTs: "'address':8 'basic':39 'better':30 'doesn':27 'either':31 'fuck':37 'get':14 'kernel':20 'know':29 'maintain':35 'mainten':40 'mauro':13 'messag':4 'might':11 'noob':25 'notic':12 'paid':15 'redhat':7 'work':17" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7083443" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701954818 {#1563 : 2023-12-07 14:13:38.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206422 } 5 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1701 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1683 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +body: """ “being a dick” and “assertive” are weasel terms which do a hell a lot of lifting in your argument there. I have no idea where your line for behaviour to be deemed acceptable actually is.\n \n IMO, no, Linus wasn’t a dick. He called out a specific attitude and behaviour which Mauro is not supposed to show in his role as maintainer. What about Mauro being a dick because he went in all self-righteous like “this is a bug in pulseaudio”?\n \n If you were a restaurant manager, and a server told a customer that he’s not going to serve beer with steak but only wine because “drinking beer with steak is obviously wrong”, what would you do? Chew them out, of course. It’s way out of line. This isn’t Linus exploding over nothing just to bully someone, that’s a thing he has *never* done.\n \n If you want someone toxic to complain about in the FOSS space pick Lennart Poettering, the kind of guy who replies to “We’d like to be able to disable various features to keep things small” with “why do you hate disabled people they need accessibility”. More generally speaking: Focussing on tone never ends up well. You can be incredibly toxic in the most flowery of idioms. 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Switcharoos with actual substance and everyone is way more humble." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 4 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701962246 {#1630 : 2023-12-07 16:17:26.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@feddylemmy@lemmy.world" "@Windex007@lemmy.world" "@interceder270@lemmy.world" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1599 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1625 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1617 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1725 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1722 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1726 …} -id: 206790 -bodyTs: "'actual':9 'everyon':12 'humbl':16 'lemmi':4 'reddit':6 'substanc':10 'switcharoo':7 'way':14 'yep':1" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7087266" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701962246 {#1629 : 2023-12-07 16:17:26.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206790 } 3 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1737} 2 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1740 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1707 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1559 …} +body: "I just wish for all of us to become more accustomed to working on ourselves instead of projecting the need to develop virtue on others. Linus actually did it, doesn’t mean that he was an asshole before. Brash, sure, crass, yes, but actual assholes don’t calm down as easily." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 0 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701981074 {#1717 : 2023-12-07 21:31:14.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@jose1324@lemmy.world" "@redhat" "@Synthead@lemmy.world" "@barsoap@lemm.ee" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2465 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2463 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2411 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2422 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2458 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2456 …} -id: 208075 -bodyTs: "'accustom':11 'actual':27,44 'asshol':37,45 'becom':9 'brash':39 'calm':48 'crass':41 'develop':22 'doesn':30 'easili':51 'instead':16 'linus':26 'mean':32 'need':20 'other':25 'project':18 'sure':40 'us':7 'virtu':23 'wish':3 'work':13 'yes':42" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7097925" +editedAt: DateTimeImmutable @1703376112 {#1739 : 2023-12-24 01:01:52.0 +01:00 } +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701981074 {#1741 : 2023-12-07 21:31:14.0 +01:00 } +"title": 208075 } 1 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#2454 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#2455 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1559 …} +body: """ Current-day Linus wouldn’t react much differently. Cut the “shut the fuck up”, the one or other “fuck” (but not all, some need to be there for emphasis), done. It’s the real personal shit, the “should be aborted retroactively” stuff, that he cut out. “Obvious garbage and idiocy” is a technical term, programmers apply it to their own work all the time. Compilers are more technical in their language but we know what they mean.\n \n And was this mail, seen in its total impact, a hardship? He went down hard, yes, and thousands upon thousands of Linux *users* breathed a sigh of relief, seeing that Mauro’s attitude towards userland doesn’t fly.\n \n The hardest-hitting sentence in that mail is actually “You have shown yourself to not be competent in this issue”. Absolutely devastating. Taking context into account it’s the equivalent of telling a professional cook that their ingredients suck, what they did with them sucks, and most of all that the gall which which they claimed that the customer is wrong about their dinner sucking is completely, and utterly, unprofessional.\n \n Of course that’s hard on Mauro. There’s no way to tell someone about such an epic cock-up without being hard. But not going that far, avoiding that hardship for some notion of civility, now that would be right-out cruel. 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If anything, then an idiot (indirectly, by saying “I don’t want to hear that kind of garbage and idiocy from a kernel maintainer again”.\n \n How many of the people complaining about the mail being abusive or whatnot actually read it. 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What, precisely, is it that makes Linus’ comment “abusive”? Is he gaslighting? Is he attacking Mauro over what he is? All I see is calling out, harshly, what Mauro *did*, behaviour that actually occurred and that is not acceptable and that Mauro *knows* is not acceptable. “We do not break userspace” is the rule #1 of Linux development, Mauro ignored it *and* was a dick about it.\n \n Or do you disagree with the *tone* of the whole thing. Things like “Shut up” instead of “This is not up for discussion”. If so, then please for the love of the gods please shut up. 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I vastly prefer an angry-sounding takedown over a passive aggressive takedown and a takedown Mauro definitely deserved because his code was, in fact, utter shite, *and that as a maintainer*. This isn’t “oh he’s a noob he doesn’t know how the kernel works” type of territory. Also note that this happened *after* he had been told what’s up in a neutral and factual way: Linus, even in his most management by perkele days, never made those things the first reply to anything. So Mauro got his chance to spot that he fucked up and correct his approach, he didn’t, therefore, it has to be said loudly. Simple as that.\n \n Also, no “you should be aborted retroactively” in sight anywhere. Yeah that stuff wasn’t necessary even though everyone with an ounce of social intelligence should readily spot that those insults were always so over the top as to be obviously humorous. """ +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 40 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701954766 {#1438 : 2023-12-07 14:12:46.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@feddylemmy@lemmy.world" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1651 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1652 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1650 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1671 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1568 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1560 …} -id: 206416 -bodyTs: "'abort':127 'aggress':17 'also':57,122 'alway':154 'angri':11 'angry-sound':10 'anyth':93 'anywher':131 'approach':108 'chanc':98 'code':27 'complet':4 'correct':106 'day':84 'definit':23 'deserv':24 'didn':110 'doesn':47 'even':77,138 'everyon':140 'fact':30 'factual':74 'fine':5 'first':90 'fuck':103 'got':96 'happen':61 'humor':163 'insult':152 'intellig':146 'isn':39 'kernel':52 'know':49 'linus':76 'loud':118 'made':86 'maintain':37 'manag':81 'mauro':22,95 'nah':1 'necessari':137 'neutral':72 'never':85 'noob':45 'note':58 'obvious':162 'oh':41 'ounc':143 'passiv':16 'perkel':83 'prefer':8 'readili':148 'repli':91 'retroact':128 'said':117 'shite':32 'sight':130 'simpl':119 'social':145 'sound':12 'spot':100,149 'stuff':134 'takedown':13,18,21 'territori':56 'therefor':112 'thing':88 'though':139 'told':66 'top':158 'type':54 'utter':31 'vast':7 'wasn':135 'way':75 'work':53 'yeah':132" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7083419" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701954766 {#1700 : 2023-12-07 14:12:46.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206416 } 6 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1562 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1566 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1559 …} +body: "This is a message to an @redhat address, as you might notice. Mauro gets paid to work on the kernel and is not a noob who doesn’t know better, either, he’s a maintainer who fucked up basic maintenance." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 15 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701954818 {#1572 : 2023-12-07 14:13:38.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@jose1324@lemmy.world" "@redhat" "@Synthead@lemmy.world" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1548 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1554 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1556 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1555 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1620 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1604 …} -id: 206422 -bodyTs: "'address':8 'basic':39 'better':30 'doesn':27 'either':31 'fuck':37 'get':14 'kernel':20 'know':29 'maintain':35 'mainten':40 'mauro':13 'messag':4 'might':11 'noob':25 'notic':12 'paid':15 'redhat':7 'work':17" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7083443" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701954818 {#1563 : 2023-12-07 14:13:38.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206422 } 5 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1701 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1683 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +body: """ “being a dick” and “assertive” are weasel terms which do a hell a lot of lifting in your argument there. I have no idea where your line for behaviour to be deemed acceptable actually is.\n \n IMO, no, Linus wasn’t a dick. He called out a specific attitude and behaviour which Mauro is not supposed to show in his role as maintainer. What about Mauro being a dick because he went in all self-righteous like “this is a bug in pulseaudio”?\n \n If you were a restaurant manager, and a server told a customer that he’s not going to serve beer with steak but only wine because “drinking beer with steak is obviously wrong”, what would you do? Chew them out, of course. It’s way out of line. This isn’t Linus exploding over nothing just to bully someone, that’s a thing he has *never* done.\n \n If you want someone toxic to complain about in the FOSS space pick Lennart Poettering, the kind of guy who replies to “We’d like to be able to disable various features to keep things small” with “why do you hate disabled people they need accessibility”. More generally speaking: Focussing on tone never ends up well. You can be incredibly toxic in the most flowery of idioms. 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Switcharoos with actual substance and everyone is way more humble." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 4 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701962246 {#1630 : 2023-12-07 16:17:26.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@feddylemmy@lemmy.world" "@Windex007@lemmy.world" "@interceder270@lemmy.world" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1599 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1625 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1617 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1725 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1722 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1726 …} -id: 206790 -bodyTs: "'actual':9 'everyon':12 'humbl':16 'lemmi':4 'reddit':6 'substanc':10 'switcharoo':7 'way':14 'yep':1" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7087266" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701962246 {#1629 : 2023-12-07 16:17:26.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206790 } 3 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1737} 2 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1740 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1707 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1559 …} +body: "I just wish for all of us to become more accustomed to working on ourselves instead of projecting the need to develop virtue on others. Linus actually did it, doesn’t mean that he was an asshole before. Brash, sure, crass, yes, but actual assholes don’t calm down as easily." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 0 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701981074 {#1717 : 2023-12-07 21:31:14.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@jose1324@lemmy.world" "@redhat" "@Synthead@lemmy.world" "@barsoap@lemm.ee" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2465 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2463 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2411 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2422 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2458 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2456 …} -id: 208075 -bodyTs: "'accustom':11 'actual':27,44 'asshol':37,45 'becom':9 'brash':39 'calm':48 'crass':41 'develop':22 'doesn':30 'easili':51 'instead':16 'linus':26 'mean':32 'need':20 'other':25 'project':18 'sure':40 'us':7 'virtu':23 'wish':3 'work':13 'yes':42" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7097925" +editedAt: DateTimeImmutable @1703376112 {#1739 : 2023-12-24 01:01:52.0 +01:00 } +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701981074 {#1741 : 2023-12-07 21:31:14.0 +01:00 } +"title": 208075 } 1 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#2454 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#2455 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1559 …} +body: """ Current-day Linus wouldn’t react much differently. Cut the “shut the fuck up”, the one or other “fuck” (but not all, some need to be there for emphasis), done. It’s the real personal shit, the “should be aborted retroactively” stuff, that he cut out. “Obvious garbage and idiocy” is a technical term, programmers apply it to their own work all the time. Compilers are more technical in their language but we know what they mean.\n \n And was this mail, seen in its total impact, a hardship? He went down hard, yes, and thousands upon thousands of Linux *users* breathed a sigh of relief, seeing that Mauro’s attitude towards userland doesn’t fly.\n \n The hardest-hitting sentence in that mail is actually “You have shown yourself to not be competent in this issue”. Absolutely devastating. Taking context into account it’s the equivalent of telling a professional cook that their ingredients suck, what they did with them sucks, and most of all that the gall which which they claimed that the customer is wrong about their dinner sucking is completely, and utterly, unprofessional.\n \n Of course that’s hard on Mauro. There’s no way to tell someone about such an epic cock-up without being hard. But not going that far, avoiding that hardship for some notion of civility, now that would be right-out cruel. 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If anything, then an idiot (indirectly, by saying “I don’t want to hear that kind of garbage and idiocy from a kernel maintainer again”.\n \n How many of the people complaining about the mail being abusive or whatnot actually read it. 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What, precisely, is it that makes Linus’ comment “abusive”? Is he gaslighting? Is he attacking Mauro over what he is? All I see is calling out, harshly, what Mauro *did*, behaviour that actually occurred and that is not acceptable and that Mauro *knows* is not acceptable. “We do not break userspace” is the rule #1 of Linux development, Mauro ignored it *and* was a dick about it.\n \n Or do you disagree with the *tone* of the whole thing. Things like “Shut up” instead of “This is not up for discussion”. If so, then please for the love of the gods please shut up. 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[LemmyMemes](https://lemmy.world/c/memes@lemmy.world): Memes * [LemmyShitpost](https://lemmy.world/c/lemmyshitpost): Anything and everything goes. * [RISA](https://startrek.website/c/risa): Star Trek memes and shitposts\n \n Community rules1. Follow the site-wide rules and [code of conduct](https://join-lemmy.org/docs/code_of_conduct.html)2. Be civil 3. Post Linux-related content 4. No recent reposts Please report posts and comments that break these rules! """ +rules: null +subscriptionsCount: 1 +entryCount: 398 +entryCommentCount: 11895 +postCount: 1 +postCommentCount: 0 +isAdult: false +customCss: null +lastActive: DateTime @1726884280 {#3171 : 2024-09-21 04:04:40.0 +02:00 } +markedForDeletionAt: null +tags: null +moderators: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3175 …} +ownershipRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3177 …} +moderatorRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3179 …} +entries: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3181 …} +posts: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3183 …} +subscriptions: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3185 …} +bans: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3191 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3199 …} +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3212 …} +logs: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3222 …} +awards: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3204 …} +categories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3228 …} -id: 83 +apId: "linuxmemes@lemmy.world" +apProfileId: "https://lemmy.world/c/linuxmemes" +apPublicUrl: "https://lemmy.world/c/linuxmemes" +apFollowersUrl: "https://lemmy.world/c/linuxmemes/followers" +apInboxUrl: "https://lemmy.world/inbox" +apDomain: "lemmy.world" +apPreferredUsername: "linuxmemes" +apDiscoverable: true +apManuallyApprovesFollowers: null +privateKey: null +publicKey: null +apFetchedAt: DateTime @1719076635 {#3172 : 2024-06-22 19:17:15.0 +02:00 } +apDeletedAt: null +apTimeoutAt: null +visibility: "visible " +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1699095615 {#3173 : 2023-11-04 12:00:15.0 +01:00 } +__isInitialized__: true …2 } +image: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#2199 …} +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#2267 …} +slug: "Linus-does-not-fuck-around" +title: "Linus does not fuck around" +url: "https://lemmy.one/pictrs/image/f5614afd-25b9-4afe-a003-00eab7c7fb34.png" +body: "An oldie, but a goodie" +type: "image" +lang: "en" +isOc: false +hasEmbed: true +commentCount: 471 +favouriteCount: 1556 +score: 0 +isAdult: false +sticky: false +lastActive: DateTime @1720068489 {#2101 : 2024-07-04 06:48:09.0 +02:00 } +ip: null +adaAmount: 0 +tags: null +mentions: null +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2268 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2266 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2200 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2246 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2260 …} +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2142 …} +children: [ 7 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1614 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +body: """ Nah it’s completely fine. I vastly prefer an angry-sounding takedown over a passive aggressive takedown and a takedown Mauro definitely deserved because his code was, in fact, utter shite, *and that as a maintainer*. This isn’t “oh he’s a noob he doesn’t know how the kernel works” type of territory. Also note that this happened *after* he had been told what’s up in a neutral and factual way: Linus, even in his most management by perkele days, never made those things the first reply to anything. So Mauro got his chance to spot that he fucked up and correct his approach, he didn’t, therefore, it has to be said loudly. Simple as that.\n \n Also, no “you should be aborted retroactively” in sight anywhere. Yeah that stuff wasn’t necessary even though everyone with an ounce of social intelligence should readily spot that those insults were always so over the top as to be obviously humorous. """ +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 40 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701954766 {#1438 : 2023-12-07 14:12:46.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@feddylemmy@lemmy.world" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1651 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1652 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1650 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1671 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1568 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1560 …} -id: 206416 -bodyTs: "'abort':127 'aggress':17 'also':57,122 'alway':154 'angri':11 'angry-sound':10 'anyth':93 'anywher':131 'approach':108 'chanc':98 'code':27 'complet':4 'correct':106 'day':84 'definit':23 'deserv':24 'didn':110 'doesn':47 'even':77,138 'everyon':140 'fact':30 'factual':74 'fine':5 'first':90 'fuck':103 'got':96 'happen':61 'humor':163 'insult':152 'intellig':146 'isn':39 'kernel':52 'know':49 'linus':76 'loud':118 'made':86 'maintain':37 'manag':81 'mauro':22,95 'nah':1 'necessari':137 'neutral':72 'never':85 'noob':45 'note':58 'obvious':162 'oh':41 'ounc':143 'passiv':16 'perkel':83 'prefer':8 'readili':148 'repli':91 'retroact':128 'said':117 'shite':32 'sight':130 'simpl':119 'social':145 'sound':12 'spot':100,149 'stuff':134 'takedown':13,18,21 'territori':56 'therefor':112 'thing':88 'though':139 'told':66 'top':158 'type':54 'utter':31 'vast':7 'wasn':135 'way':75 'work':53 'yeah':132" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7083419" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701954766 {#1700 : 2023-12-07 14:12:46.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206416 } 6 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1562 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1566 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1559 …} +body: "This is a message to an @redhat address, as you might notice. Mauro gets paid to work on the kernel and is not a noob who doesn’t know better, either, he’s a maintainer who fucked up basic maintenance." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 15 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701954818 {#1572 : 2023-12-07 14:13:38.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@jose1324@lemmy.world" "@redhat" "@Synthead@lemmy.world" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1548 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1554 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1556 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1555 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1620 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1604 …} -id: 206422 -bodyTs: "'address':8 'basic':39 'better':30 'doesn':27 'either':31 'fuck':37 'get':14 'kernel':20 'know':29 'maintain':35 'mainten':40 'mauro':13 'messag':4 'might':11 'noob':25 'notic':12 'paid':15 'redhat':7 'work':17" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7083443" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701954818 {#1563 : 2023-12-07 14:13:38.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206422 } 5 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1701 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1683 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +body: """ “being a dick” and “assertive” are weasel terms which do a hell a lot of lifting in your argument there. I have no idea where your line for behaviour to be deemed acceptable actually is.\n \n IMO, no, Linus wasn’t a dick. He called out a specific attitude and behaviour which Mauro is not supposed to show in his role as maintainer. What about Mauro being a dick because he went in all self-righteous like “this is a bug in pulseaudio”?\n \n If you were a restaurant manager, and a server told a customer that he’s not going to serve beer with steak but only wine because “drinking beer with steak is obviously wrong”, what would you do? Chew them out, of course. It’s way out of line. This isn’t Linus exploding over nothing just to bully someone, that’s a thing he has *never* done.\n \n If you want someone toxic to complain about in the FOSS space pick Lennart Poettering, the kind of guy who replies to “We’d like to be able to disable various features to keep things small” with “why do you hate disabled people they need accessibility”. More generally speaking: Focussing on tone never ends up well. You can be incredibly toxic in the most flowery of idioms. 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Switcharoos with actual substance and everyone is way more humble." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 4 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701962246 {#1630 : 2023-12-07 16:17:26.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@feddylemmy@lemmy.world" "@Windex007@lemmy.world" "@interceder270@lemmy.world" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1599 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1625 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1617 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1725 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1722 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1726 …} -id: 206790 -bodyTs: "'actual':9 'everyon':12 'humbl':16 'lemmi':4 'reddit':6 'substanc':10 'switcharoo':7 'way':14 'yep':1" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7087266" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701962246 {#1629 : 2023-12-07 16:17:26.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206790 } 3 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1737} 2 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1740 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1707 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1559 …} +body: "I just wish for all of us to become more accustomed to working on ourselves instead of projecting the need to develop virtue on others. Linus actually did it, doesn’t mean that he was an asshole before. Brash, sure, crass, yes, but actual assholes don’t calm down as easily." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 0 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701981074 {#1717 : 2023-12-07 21:31:14.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@jose1324@lemmy.world" "@redhat" "@Synthead@lemmy.world" "@barsoap@lemm.ee" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2465 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2463 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2411 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2422 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2458 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2456 …} -id: 208075 -bodyTs: "'accustom':11 'actual':27,44 'asshol':37,45 'becom':9 'brash':39 'calm':48 'crass':41 'develop':22 'doesn':30 'easili':51 'instead':16 'linus':26 'mean':32 'need':20 'other':25 'project':18 'sure':40 'us':7 'virtu':23 'wish':3 'work':13 'yes':42" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7097925" +editedAt: DateTimeImmutable @1703376112 {#1739 : 2023-12-24 01:01:52.0 +01:00 } +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701981074 {#1741 : 2023-12-07 21:31:14.0 +01:00 } +"title": 208075 } 1 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#2454 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#2455 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1559 …} +body: """ Current-day Linus wouldn’t react much differently. Cut the “shut the fuck up”, the one or other “fuck” (but not all, some need to be there for emphasis), done. It’s the real personal shit, the “should be aborted retroactively” stuff, that he cut out. “Obvious garbage and idiocy” is a technical term, programmers apply it to their own work all the time. Compilers are more technical in their language but we know what they mean.\n \n And was this mail, seen in its total impact, a hardship? He went down hard, yes, and thousands upon thousands of Linux *users* breathed a sigh of relief, seeing that Mauro’s attitude towards userland doesn’t fly.\n \n The hardest-hitting sentence in that mail is actually “You have shown yourself to not be competent in this issue”. Absolutely devastating. Taking context into account it’s the equivalent of telling a professional cook that their ingredients suck, what they did with them sucks, and most of all that the gall which which they claimed that the customer is wrong about their dinner sucking is completely, and utterly, unprofessional.\n \n Of course that’s hard on Mauro. There’s no way to tell someone about such an epic cock-up without being hard. But not going that far, avoiding that hardship for some notion of civility, now that would be right-out cruel. 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If anything, then an idiot (indirectly, by saying “I don’t want to hear that kind of garbage and idiocy from a kernel maintainer again”.\n \n How many of the people complaining about the mail being abusive or whatnot actually read it. 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What, precisely, is it that makes Linus’ comment “abusive”? Is he gaslighting? Is he attacking Mauro over what he is? All I see is calling out, harshly, what Mauro *did*, behaviour that actually occurred and that is not acceptable and that Mauro *knows* is not acceptable. “We do not break userspace” is the rule #1 of Linux development, Mauro ignored it *and* was a dick about it.\n \n Or do you disagree with the *tone* of the whole thing. Things like “Shut up” instead of “This is not up for discussion”. If so, then please for the love of the gods please shut up. 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I vastly prefer an angry-sounding takedown over a passive aggressive takedown and a takedown Mauro definitely deserved because his code was, in fact, utter shite, *and that as a maintainer*. This isn’t “oh he’s a noob he doesn’t know how the kernel works” type of territory. Also note that this happened *after* he had been told what’s up in a neutral and factual way: Linus, even in his most management by perkele days, never made those things the first reply to anything. So Mauro got his chance to spot that he fucked up and correct his approach, he didn’t, therefore, it has to be said loudly. Simple as that.\n \n Also, no “you should be aborted retroactively” in sight anywhere. Yeah that stuff wasn’t necessary even though everyone with an ounce of social intelligence should readily spot that those insults were always so over the top as to be obviously humorous. 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Mauro gets paid to work on the kernel and is not a noob who doesn’t know better, either, he’s a maintainer who fucked up basic maintenance." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 15 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701954818 {#1572 : 2023-12-07 14:13:38.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@jose1324@lemmy.world" "@redhat" "@Synthead@lemmy.world" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1548 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1554 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1556 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1555 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1620 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1604 …} -id: 206422 -bodyTs: "'address':8 'basic':39 'better':30 'doesn':27 'either':31 'fuck':37 'get':14 'kernel':20 'know':29 'maintain':35 'mainten':40 'mauro':13 'messag':4 'might':11 'noob':25 'notic':12 'paid':15 'redhat':7 'work':17" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7083443" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701954818 {#1563 : 2023-12-07 14:13:38.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206422 } 5 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1701 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1683 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +body: """ “being a dick” and “assertive” are weasel terms which do a hell a lot of lifting in your argument there. I have no idea where your line for behaviour to be deemed acceptable actually is.\n \n IMO, no, Linus wasn’t a dick. He called out a specific attitude and behaviour which Mauro is not supposed to show in his role as maintainer. What about Mauro being a dick because he went in all self-righteous like “this is a bug in pulseaudio”?\n \n If you were a restaurant manager, and a server told a customer that he’s not going to serve beer with steak but only wine because “drinking beer with steak is obviously wrong”, what would you do? Chew them out, of course. It’s way out of line. This isn’t Linus exploding over nothing just to bully someone, that’s a thing he has *never* done.\n \n If you want someone toxic to complain about in the FOSS space pick Lennart Poettering, the kind of guy who replies to “We’d like to be able to disable various features to keep things small” with “why do you hate disabled people they need accessibility”. More generally speaking: Focussing on tone never ends up well. You can be incredibly toxic in the most flowery of idioms. 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Switcharoos with actual substance and everyone is way more humble." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 4 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701962246 {#1630 : 2023-12-07 16:17:26.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@feddylemmy@lemmy.world" "@Windex007@lemmy.world" "@interceder270@lemmy.world" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1599 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1625 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1617 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1725 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1722 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1726 …} -id: 206790 -bodyTs: "'actual':9 'everyon':12 'humbl':16 'lemmi':4 'reddit':6 'substanc':10 'switcharoo':7 'way':14 'yep':1" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7087266" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701962246 {#1629 : 2023-12-07 16:17:26.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206790 } 3 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1737} 2 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1740 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1707 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1559 …} +body: "I just wish for all of us to become more accustomed to working on ourselves instead of projecting the need to develop virtue on others. Linus actually did it, doesn’t mean that he was an asshole before. Brash, sure, crass, yes, but actual assholes don’t calm down as easily." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 0 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701981074 {#1717 : 2023-12-07 21:31:14.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@jose1324@lemmy.world" "@redhat" "@Synthead@lemmy.world" "@barsoap@lemm.ee" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2465 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2463 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2411 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2422 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2458 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2456 …} -id: 208075 -bodyTs: "'accustom':11 'actual':27,44 'asshol':37,45 'becom':9 'brash':39 'calm':48 'crass':41 'develop':22 'doesn':30 'easili':51 'instead':16 'linus':26 'mean':32 'need':20 'other':25 'project':18 'sure':40 'us':7 'virtu':23 'wish':3 'work':13 'yes':42" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7097925" +editedAt: DateTimeImmutable @1703376112 {#1739 : 2023-12-24 01:01:52.0 +01:00 } +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701981074 {#1741 : 2023-12-07 21:31:14.0 +01:00 } +"title": 208075 } 1 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#2454 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#2455 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1559 …} +body: """ Current-day Linus wouldn’t react much differently. Cut the “shut the fuck up”, the one or other “fuck” (but not all, some need to be there for emphasis), done. It’s the real personal shit, the “should be aborted retroactively” stuff, that he cut out. “Obvious garbage and idiocy” is a technical term, programmers apply it to their own work all the time. Compilers are more technical in their language but we know what they mean.\n \n And was this mail, seen in its total impact, a hardship? He went down hard, yes, and thousands upon thousands of Linux *users* breathed a sigh of relief, seeing that Mauro’s attitude towards userland doesn’t fly.\n \n The hardest-hitting sentence in that mail is actually “You have shown yourself to not be competent in this issue”. Absolutely devastating. Taking context into account it’s the equivalent of telling a professional cook that their ingredients suck, what they did with them sucks, and most of all that the gall which which they claimed that the customer is wrong about their dinner sucking is completely, and utterly, unprofessional.\n \n Of course that’s hard on Mauro. There’s no way to tell someone about such an epic cock-up without being hard. But not going that far, avoiding that hardship for some notion of civility, now that would be right-out cruel. 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If anything, then an idiot (indirectly, by saying “I don’t want to hear that kind of garbage and idiocy from a kernel maintainer again”.\n \n How many of the people complaining about the mail being abusive or whatnot actually read it. 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What, precisely, is it that makes Linus’ comment “abusive”? Is he gaslighting? Is he attacking Mauro over what he is? All I see is calling out, harshly, what Mauro *did*, behaviour that actually occurred and that is not acceptable and that Mauro *knows* is not acceptable. “We do not break userspace” is the rule #1 of Linux development, Mauro ignored it *and* was a dick about it.\n \n Or do you disagree with the *tone* of the whole thing. Things like “Shut up” instead of “This is not up for discussion”. If so, then please for the love of the gods please shut up. 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I vastly prefer an angry-sounding takedown over a passive aggressive takedown and a takedown Mauro definitely deserved because his code was, in fact, utter shite, *and that as a maintainer*. This isn’t “oh he’s a noob he doesn’t know how the kernel works” type of territory. Also note that this happened *after* he had been told what’s up in a neutral and factual way: Linus, even in his most management by perkele days, never made those things the first reply to anything. So Mauro got his chance to spot that he fucked up and correct his approach, he didn’t, therefore, it has to be said loudly. Simple as that.\n \n Also, no “you should be aborted retroactively” in sight anywhere. Yeah that stuff wasn’t necessary even though everyone with an ounce of social intelligence should readily spot that those insults were always so over the top as to be obviously humorous. 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Mauro gets paid to work on the kernel and is not a noob who doesn’t know better, either, he’s a maintainer who fucked up basic maintenance." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 15 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701954818 {#1572 : 2023-12-07 14:13:38.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@jose1324@lemmy.world" "@redhat" "@Synthead@lemmy.world" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1548 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1554 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1556 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1555 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1620 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1604 …} -id: 206422 -bodyTs: "'address':8 'basic':39 'better':30 'doesn':27 'either':31 'fuck':37 'get':14 'kernel':20 'know':29 'maintain':35 'mainten':40 'mauro':13 'messag':4 'might':11 'noob':25 'notic':12 'paid':15 'redhat':7 'work':17" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7083443" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701954818 {#1563 : 2023-12-07 14:13:38.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206422 } 5 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1701 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1683 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +body: """ “being a dick” and “assertive” are weasel terms which do a hell a lot of lifting in your argument there. I have no idea where your line for behaviour to be deemed acceptable actually is.\n \n IMO, no, Linus wasn’t a dick. He called out a specific attitude and behaviour which Mauro is not supposed to show in his role as maintainer. What about Mauro being a dick because he went in all self-righteous like “this is a bug in pulseaudio”?\n \n If you were a restaurant manager, and a server told a customer that he’s not going to serve beer with steak but only wine because “drinking beer with steak is obviously wrong”, what would you do? Chew them out, of course. It’s way out of line. This isn’t Linus exploding over nothing just to bully someone, that’s a thing he has *never* done.\n \n If you want someone toxic to complain about in the FOSS space pick Lennart Poettering, the kind of guy who replies to “We’d like to be able to disable various features to keep things small” with “why do you hate disabled people they need accessibility”. More generally speaking: Focussing on tone never ends up well. You can be incredibly toxic in the most flowery of idioms. 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Switcharoos with actual substance and everyone is way more humble." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 4 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701962246 {#1630 : 2023-12-07 16:17:26.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@feddylemmy@lemmy.world" "@Windex007@lemmy.world" "@interceder270@lemmy.world" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1599 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1625 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1617 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1725 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1722 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1726 …} -id: 206790 -bodyTs: "'actual':9 'everyon':12 'humbl':16 'lemmi':4 'reddit':6 'substanc':10 'switcharoo':7 'way':14 'yep':1" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7087266" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701962246 {#1629 : 2023-12-07 16:17:26.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206790 } 3 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1737 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1734 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +body: """ > and being abusive\n \n There’s it again. What, precisely, is it that makes Linus’ comment “abusive”? Is he gaslighting? Is he attacking Mauro over what he is? All I see is calling out, harshly, what Mauro *did*, behaviour that actually occurred and that is not acceptable and that Mauro *knows* is not acceptable. “We do not break userspace” is the rule #1 of Linux development, Mauro ignored it *and* was a dick about it.\n \n Or do you disagree with the *tone* of the whole thing. Things like “Shut up” instead of “This is not up for discussion”. If so, then please for the love of the gods please shut up. """ +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 6 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701968575 {#1736 : 2023-12-07 18:02:55.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@feddylemmy@lemmy.world" "@barsoap@lemm.ee" "@oatscoop@midwest.social" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1732 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1735 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1729 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1719 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1714 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1720 …} -id: 207200 -bodyTs: "'1':62 'abus':3,16 'accept':46,53 'actual':40 'attack':22 'behaviour':38 'break':57 'call':32 'comment':15 'develop':65 'dick':72 'disagre':78 'discuss':97 'gaslight':19 'god':107 'harsh':34 'ignor':67 'instead':90 'know':50 'like':87 'linus':14 'linux':64 'love':104 'make':13 'mauro':23,36,49,66 'occur':41 'pleas':101,108 'precis':9 'rule':61 'see':30 'shut':88,109 'thing':85,86 'tone':81 'userspac':58 'whole':84" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7090782" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701968575 {#1730 : 2023-12-07 18:02:55.0 +01:00 } +"title": 207200 } 2 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1740} 1 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#2454 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#2455 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1559 …} +body: """ Current-day Linus wouldn’t react much differently. Cut the “shut the fuck up”, the one or other “fuck” (but not all, some need to be there for emphasis), done. It’s the real personal shit, the “should be aborted retroactively” stuff, that he cut out. “Obvious garbage and idiocy” is a technical term, programmers apply it to their own work all the time. Compilers are more technical in their language but we know what they mean.\n \n And was this mail, seen in its total impact, a hardship? He went down hard, yes, and thousands upon thousands of Linux *users* breathed a sigh of relief, seeing that Mauro’s attitude towards userland doesn’t fly.\n \n The hardest-hitting sentence in that mail is actually “You have shown yourself to not be competent in this issue”. Absolutely devastating. Taking context into account it’s the equivalent of telling a professional cook that their ingredients suck, what they did with them sucks, and most of all that the gall which which they claimed that the customer is wrong about their dinner sucking is completely, and utterly, unprofessional.\n \n Of course that’s hard on Mauro. There’s no way to tell someone about such an epic cock-up without being hard. But not going that far, avoiding that hardship for some notion of civility, now that would be right-out cruel. 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If anything, then an idiot (indirectly, by saying “I don’t want to hear that kind of garbage and idiocy from a kernel maintainer again”.\n \n How many of the people complaining about the mail being abusive or whatnot actually read it. 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Linus actually did it, doesn’t mean that he was an asshole before. Brash, sure, crass, yes, but actual assholes don’t calm down as easily." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 0 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701981074 {#1717 : 2023-12-07 21:31:14.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@jose1324@lemmy.world" "@redhat" "@Synthead@lemmy.world" "@barsoap@lemm.ee" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2465 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2463 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2411 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2422 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2458 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2456 …} -id: 208075 -bodyTs: "'accustom':11 'actual':27,44 'asshol':37,45 'becom':9 'brash':39 'calm':48 'crass':41 'develop':22 'doesn':30 'easili':51 'instead':16 'linus':26 'mean':32 'need':20 'other':25 'project':18 'sure':40 'us':7 'virtu':23 'wish':3 'work':13 'yes':42" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7097925" +editedAt: DateTimeImmutable @1703376112 {#1739 : 2023-12-24 01:01:52.0 +01:00 } +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701981074 {#1741 : 2023-12-07 21:31:14.0 +01:00 } +"title": 208075 } "showEntryTitle" => false "dateAsUrl" => true "showMagazineName" => false ] |
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---\n \n Sister communities:* [LemmyMemes](https://lemmy.world/c/memes@lemmy.world): Memes * [LemmyShitpost](https://lemmy.world/c/lemmyshitpost): Anything and everything goes. * [RISA](https://startrek.website/c/risa): Star Trek memes and shitposts\n \n Community rules1. Follow the site-wide rules and [code of conduct](https://join-lemmy.org/docs/code_of_conduct.html)2. Be civil 3. Post Linux-related content 4. No recent reposts Please report posts and comments that break these rules! """ +rules: null +subscriptionsCount: 1 +entryCount: 398 +entryCommentCount: 11895 +postCount: 1 +postCommentCount: 0 +isAdult: false +customCss: null +lastActive: DateTime @1726884280 {#3171 : 2024-09-21 04:04:40.0 +02:00 } +markedForDeletionAt: null +tags: null +moderators: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3175 …} +ownershipRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3177 …} +moderatorRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3179 …} +entries: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3181 …} +posts: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3183 …} +subscriptions: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3185 …} +bans: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3191 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3199 …} +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3212 …} +logs: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3222 …} +awards: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3204 …} +categories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3228 …} -id: 83 +apId: "linuxmemes@lemmy.world" +apProfileId: "https://lemmy.world/c/linuxmemes" +apPublicUrl: "https://lemmy.world/c/linuxmemes" +apFollowersUrl: "https://lemmy.world/c/linuxmemes/followers" +apInboxUrl: "https://lemmy.world/inbox" +apDomain: "lemmy.world" +apPreferredUsername: "linuxmemes" +apDiscoverable: true +apManuallyApprovesFollowers: null +privateKey: null +publicKey: null +apFetchedAt: DateTime @1719076635 {#3172 : 2024-06-22 19:17:15.0 +02:00 } +apDeletedAt: null +apTimeoutAt: null +visibility: "visible " +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1699095615 {#3173 : 2023-11-04 12:00:15.0 +01:00 } +__isInitialized__: true …2 } +image: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#2199 …} +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#2267 …} +slug: "Linus-does-not-fuck-around" +title: "Linus does not fuck around" +url: "https://lemmy.one/pictrs/image/f5614afd-25b9-4afe-a003-00eab7c7fb34.png" +body: "An oldie, but a goodie" +type: "image" +lang: "en" +isOc: false +hasEmbed: true +commentCount: 471 +favouriteCount: 1556 +score: 0 +isAdult: false +sticky: false +lastActive: DateTime @1720068489 {#2101 : 2024-07-04 06:48:09.0 +02:00 } +ip: null +adaAmount: 0 +tags: null +mentions: null +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2268 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2266 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2200 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2246 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2260 …} +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2142 …} +children: [ 7 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1614 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +body: """ Nah it’s completely fine. I vastly prefer an angry-sounding takedown over a passive aggressive takedown and a takedown Mauro definitely deserved because his code was, in fact, utter shite, *and that as a maintainer*. This isn’t “oh he’s a noob he doesn’t know how the kernel works” type of territory. Also note that this happened *after* he had been told what’s up in a neutral and factual way: Linus, even in his most management by perkele days, never made those things the first reply to anything. So Mauro got his chance to spot that he fucked up and correct his approach, he didn’t, therefore, it has to be said loudly. Simple as that.\n \n Also, no “you should be aborted retroactively” in sight anywhere. Yeah that stuff wasn’t necessary even though everyone with an ounce of social intelligence should readily spot that those insults were always so over the top as to be obviously humorous. """ +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 40 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701954766 {#1438 : 2023-12-07 14:12:46.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@feddylemmy@lemmy.world" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1651 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1652 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1650 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1671 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1568 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1560 …} -id: 206416 -bodyTs: "'abort':127 'aggress':17 'also':57,122 'alway':154 'angri':11 'angry-sound':10 'anyth':93 'anywher':131 'approach':108 'chanc':98 'code':27 'complet':4 'correct':106 'day':84 'definit':23 'deserv':24 'didn':110 'doesn':47 'even':77,138 'everyon':140 'fact':30 'factual':74 'fine':5 'first':90 'fuck':103 'got':96 'happen':61 'humor':163 'insult':152 'intellig':146 'isn':39 'kernel':52 'know':49 'linus':76 'loud':118 'made':86 'maintain':37 'manag':81 'mauro':22,95 'nah':1 'necessari':137 'neutral':72 'never':85 'noob':45 'note':58 'obvious':162 'oh':41 'ounc':143 'passiv':16 'perkel':83 'prefer':8 'readili':148 'repli':91 'retroact':128 'said':117 'shite':32 'sight':130 'simpl':119 'social':145 'sound':12 'spot':100,149 'stuff':134 'takedown':13,18,21 'territori':56 'therefor':112 'thing':88 'though':139 'told':66 'top':158 'type':54 'utter':31 'vast':7 'wasn':135 'way':75 'work':53 'yeah':132" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7083419" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701954766 {#1700 : 2023-12-07 14:12:46.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206416 } 6 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1562 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1566 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1559 …} +body: "This is a message to an @redhat address, as you might notice. Mauro gets paid to work on the kernel and is not a noob who doesn’t know better, either, he’s a maintainer who fucked up basic maintenance." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 15 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701954818 {#1572 : 2023-12-07 14:13:38.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@jose1324@lemmy.world" "@redhat" "@Synthead@lemmy.world" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1548 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1554 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1556 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1555 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1620 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1604 …} -id: 206422 -bodyTs: "'address':8 'basic':39 'better':30 'doesn':27 'either':31 'fuck':37 'get':14 'kernel':20 'know':29 'maintain':35 'mainten':40 'mauro':13 'messag':4 'might':11 'noob':25 'notic':12 'paid':15 'redhat':7 'work':17" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7083443" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701954818 {#1563 : 2023-12-07 14:13:38.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206422 } 5 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1701 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1683 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +body: """ “being a dick” and “assertive” are weasel terms which do a hell a lot of lifting in your argument there. I have no idea where your line for behaviour to be deemed acceptable actually is.\n \n IMO, no, Linus wasn’t a dick. He called out a specific attitude and behaviour which Mauro is not supposed to show in his role as maintainer. What about Mauro being a dick because he went in all self-righteous like “this is a bug in pulseaudio”?\n \n If you were a restaurant manager, and a server told a customer that he’s not going to serve beer with steak but only wine because “drinking beer with steak is obviously wrong”, what would you do? Chew them out, of course. It’s way out of line. This isn’t Linus exploding over nothing just to bully someone, that’s a thing he has *never* done.\n \n If you want someone toxic to complain about in the FOSS space pick Lennart Poettering, the kind of guy who replies to “We’d like to be able to disable various features to keep things small” with “why do you hate disabled people they need accessibility”. More generally speaking: Focussing on tone never ends up well. You can be incredibly toxic in the most flowery of idioms. 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Switcharoos with actual substance and everyone is way more humble." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 4 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701962246 {#1630 : 2023-12-07 16:17:26.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@feddylemmy@lemmy.world" "@Windex007@lemmy.world" "@interceder270@lemmy.world" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1599 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1625 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1617 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1725 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1722 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1726 …} -id: 206790 -bodyTs: "'actual':9 'everyon':12 'humbl':16 'lemmi':4 'reddit':6 'substanc':10 'switcharoo':7 'way':14 'yep':1" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7087266" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701962246 {#1629 : 2023-12-07 16:17:26.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206790 } 3 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1737 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1734 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +body: """ > and being abusive\n \n There’s it again. What, precisely, is it that makes Linus’ comment “abusive”? Is he gaslighting? Is he attacking Mauro over what he is? All I see is calling out, harshly, what Mauro *did*, behaviour that actually occurred and that is not acceptable and that Mauro *knows* is not acceptable. “We do not break userspace” is the rule #1 of Linux development, Mauro ignored it *and* was a dick about it.\n \n Or do you disagree with the *tone* of the whole thing. Things like “Shut up” instead of “This is not up for discussion”. If so, then please for the love of the gods please shut up. """ +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 6 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701968575 {#1736 : 2023-12-07 18:02:55.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@feddylemmy@lemmy.world" "@barsoap@lemm.ee" "@oatscoop@midwest.social" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1732 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1735 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1729 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1719 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1714 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1720 …} -id: 207200 -bodyTs: "'1':62 'abus':3,16 'accept':46,53 'actual':40 'attack':22 'behaviour':38 'break':57 'call':32 'comment':15 'develop':65 'dick':72 'disagre':78 'discuss':97 'gaslight':19 'god':107 'harsh':34 'ignor':67 'instead':90 'know':50 'like':87 'linus':14 'linux':64 'love':104 'make':13 'mauro':23,36,49,66 'occur':41 'pleas':101,108 'precis':9 'rule':61 'see':30 'shut':88,109 'thing':85,86 'tone':81 'userspac':58 'whole':84" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7090782" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701968575 {#1730 : 2023-12-07 18:02:55.0 +01:00 } +"title": 207200 } 2 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1740} 1 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#2454 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#2455 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1559 …} +body: """ Current-day Linus wouldn’t react much differently. Cut the “shut the fuck up”, the one or other “fuck” (but not all, some need to be there for emphasis), done. It’s the real personal shit, the “should be aborted retroactively” stuff, that he cut out. “Obvious garbage and idiocy” is a technical term, programmers apply it to their own work all the time. Compilers are more technical in their language but we know what they mean.\n \n And was this mail, seen in its total impact, a hardship? He went down hard, yes, and thousands upon thousands of Linux *users* breathed a sigh of relief, seeing that Mauro’s attitude towards userland doesn’t fly.\n \n The hardest-hitting sentence in that mail is actually “You have shown yourself to not be competent in this issue”. Absolutely devastating. Taking context into account it’s the equivalent of telling a professional cook that their ingredients suck, what they did with them sucks, and most of all that the gall which which they claimed that the customer is wrong about their dinner sucking is completely, and utterly, unprofessional.\n \n Of course that’s hard on Mauro. There’s no way to tell someone about such an epic cock-up without being hard. But not going that far, avoiding that hardship for some notion of civility, now that would be right-out cruel. 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If anything, then an idiot (indirectly, by saying “I don’t want to hear that kind of garbage and idiocy from a kernel maintainer again”.\n \n How many of the people complaining about the mail being abusive or whatnot actually read it. 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Linus actually did it, doesn’t mean that he was an asshole before. 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[LemmyMemes](https://lemmy.world/c/memes@lemmy.world): Memes * [LemmyShitpost](https://lemmy.world/c/lemmyshitpost): Anything and everything goes. * [RISA](https://startrek.website/c/risa): Star Trek memes and shitposts\n \n Community rules1. Follow the site-wide rules and [code of conduct](https://join-lemmy.org/docs/code_of_conduct.html)2. Be civil 3. Post Linux-related content 4. No recent reposts Please report posts and comments that break these rules! """ +rules: null +subscriptionsCount: 1 +entryCount: 398 +entryCommentCount: 11895 +postCount: 1 +postCommentCount: 0 +isAdult: false +customCss: null +lastActive: DateTime @1726884280 {#3171 : 2024-09-21 04:04:40.0 +02:00 } +markedForDeletionAt: null +tags: null +moderators: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3175 …} +ownershipRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3177 …} +moderatorRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3179 …} +entries: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3181 …} +posts: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3183 …} +subscriptions: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3185 …} +bans: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3191 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3199 …} +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3212 …} +logs: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3222 …} +awards: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3204 …} +categories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3228 …} -id: 83 +apId: "linuxmemes@lemmy.world" +apProfileId: "https://lemmy.world/c/linuxmemes" +apPublicUrl: "https://lemmy.world/c/linuxmemes" +apFollowersUrl: "https://lemmy.world/c/linuxmemes/followers" +apInboxUrl: "https://lemmy.world/inbox" +apDomain: "lemmy.world" +apPreferredUsername: "linuxmemes" +apDiscoverable: true +apManuallyApprovesFollowers: null +privateKey: null +publicKey: null +apFetchedAt: DateTime @1719076635 {#3172 : 2024-06-22 19:17:15.0 +02:00 } +apDeletedAt: null +apTimeoutAt: null +visibility: "visible " +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1699095615 {#3173 : 2023-11-04 12:00:15.0 +01:00 } +__isInitialized__: true …2 } +image: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#2199 …} +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#2267 …} +slug: "Linus-does-not-fuck-around" +title: "Linus does not fuck around" +url: "https://lemmy.one/pictrs/image/f5614afd-25b9-4afe-a003-00eab7c7fb34.png" +body: "An oldie, but a goodie" +type: "image" +lang: "en" +isOc: false +hasEmbed: true +commentCount: 471 +favouriteCount: 1556 +score: 0 +isAdult: false +sticky: false +lastActive: DateTime @1720068489 {#2101 : 2024-07-04 06:48:09.0 +02:00 } +ip: null +adaAmount: 0 +tags: null +mentions: null +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2268 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2266 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2200 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2246 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2260 …} +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2142 …} +children: [ 7 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1614 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +body: """ Nah it’s completely fine. I vastly prefer an angry-sounding takedown over a passive aggressive takedown and a takedown Mauro definitely deserved because his code was, in fact, utter shite, *and that as a maintainer*. This isn’t “oh he’s a noob he doesn’t know how the kernel works” type of territory. Also note that this happened *after* he had been told what’s up in a neutral and factual way: Linus, even in his most management by perkele days, never made those things the first reply to anything. So Mauro got his chance to spot that he fucked up and correct his approach, he didn’t, therefore, it has to be said loudly. Simple as that.\n \n Also, no “you should be aborted retroactively” in sight anywhere. Yeah that stuff wasn’t necessary even though everyone with an ounce of social intelligence should readily spot that those insults were always so over the top as to be obviously humorous. """ +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 40 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701954766 {#1438 : 2023-12-07 14:12:46.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@feddylemmy@lemmy.world" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1651 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1652 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1650 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1671 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1568 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1560 …} -id: 206416 -bodyTs: "'abort':127 'aggress':17 'also':57,122 'alway':154 'angri':11 'angry-sound':10 'anyth':93 'anywher':131 'approach':108 'chanc':98 'code':27 'complet':4 'correct':106 'day':84 'definit':23 'deserv':24 'didn':110 'doesn':47 'even':77,138 'everyon':140 'fact':30 'factual':74 'fine':5 'first':90 'fuck':103 'got':96 'happen':61 'humor':163 'insult':152 'intellig':146 'isn':39 'kernel':52 'know':49 'linus':76 'loud':118 'made':86 'maintain':37 'manag':81 'mauro':22,95 'nah':1 'necessari':137 'neutral':72 'never':85 'noob':45 'note':58 'obvious':162 'oh':41 'ounc':143 'passiv':16 'perkel':83 'prefer':8 'readili':148 'repli':91 'retroact':128 'said':117 'shite':32 'sight':130 'simpl':119 'social':145 'sound':12 'spot':100,149 'stuff':134 'takedown':13,18,21 'territori':56 'therefor':112 'thing':88 'though':139 'told':66 'top':158 'type':54 'utter':31 'vast':7 'wasn':135 'way':75 'work':53 'yeah':132" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7083419" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701954766 {#1700 : 2023-12-07 14:12:46.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206416 } 6 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1562 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1566 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1559 …} +body: "This is a message to an @redhat address, as you might notice. Mauro gets paid to work on the kernel and is not a noob who doesn’t know better, either, he’s a maintainer who fucked up basic maintenance." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 15 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701954818 {#1572 : 2023-12-07 14:13:38.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@jose1324@lemmy.world" "@redhat" "@Synthead@lemmy.world" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1548 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1554 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1556 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1555 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1620 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1604 …} -id: 206422 -bodyTs: "'address':8 'basic':39 'better':30 'doesn':27 'either':31 'fuck':37 'get':14 'kernel':20 'know':29 'maintain':35 'mainten':40 'mauro':13 'messag':4 'might':11 'noob':25 'notic':12 'paid':15 'redhat':7 'work':17" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7083443" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701954818 {#1563 : 2023-12-07 14:13:38.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206422 } 5 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1701 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1683 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +body: """ “being a dick” and “assertive” are weasel terms which do a hell a lot of lifting in your argument there. I have no idea where your line for behaviour to be deemed acceptable actually is.\n \n IMO, no, Linus wasn’t a dick. He called out a specific attitude and behaviour which Mauro is not supposed to show in his role as maintainer. What about Mauro being a dick because he went in all self-righteous like “this is a bug in pulseaudio”?\n \n If you were a restaurant manager, and a server told a customer that he’s not going to serve beer with steak but only wine because “drinking beer with steak is obviously wrong”, what would you do? Chew them out, of course. It’s way out of line. This isn’t Linus exploding over nothing just to bully someone, that’s a thing he has *never* done.\n \n If you want someone toxic to complain about in the FOSS space pick Lennart Poettering, the kind of guy who replies to “We’d like to be able to disable various features to keep things small” with “why do you hate disabled people they need accessibility”. More generally speaking: Focussing on tone never ends up well. You can be incredibly toxic in the most flowery of idioms. 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Switcharoos with actual substance and everyone is way more humble." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 4 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701962246 {#1630 : 2023-12-07 16:17:26.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@feddylemmy@lemmy.world" "@Windex007@lemmy.world" "@interceder270@lemmy.world" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1599 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1625 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1617 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1725 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1722 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1726 …} -id: 206790 -bodyTs: "'actual':9 'everyon':12 'humbl':16 'lemmi':4 'reddit':6 'substanc':10 'switcharoo':7 'way':14 'yep':1" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7087266" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701962246 {#1629 : 2023-12-07 16:17:26.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206790 } 3 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1737 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1734 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +body: """ > and being abusive\n \n There’s it again. What, precisely, is it that makes Linus’ comment “abusive”? Is he gaslighting? Is he attacking Mauro over what he is? All I see is calling out, harshly, what Mauro *did*, behaviour that actually occurred and that is not acceptable and that Mauro *knows* is not acceptable. “We do not break userspace” is the rule #1 of Linux development, Mauro ignored it *and* was a dick about it.\n \n Or do you disagree with the *tone* of the whole thing. Things like “Shut up” instead of “This is not up for discussion”. If so, then please for the love of the gods please shut up. """ +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 6 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701968575 {#1736 : 2023-12-07 18:02:55.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@feddylemmy@lemmy.world" "@barsoap@lemm.ee" "@oatscoop@midwest.social" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1732 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1735 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1729 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1719 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1714 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1720 …} -id: 207200 -bodyTs: "'1':62 'abus':3,16 'accept':46,53 'actual':40 'attack':22 'behaviour':38 'break':57 'call':32 'comment':15 'develop':65 'dick':72 'disagre':78 'discuss':97 'gaslight':19 'god':107 'harsh':34 'ignor':67 'instead':90 'know':50 'like':87 'linus':14 'linux':64 'love':104 'make':13 'mauro':23,36,49,66 'occur':41 'pleas':101,108 'precis':9 'rule':61 'see':30 'shut':88,109 'thing':85,86 'tone':81 'userspac':58 'whole':84" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7090782" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701968575 {#1730 : 2023-12-07 18:02:55.0 +01:00 } +"title": 207200 } 2 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1740} 1 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#2454 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#2455 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1559 …} +body: """ Current-day Linus wouldn’t react much differently. Cut the “shut the fuck up”, the one or other “fuck” (but not all, some need to be there for emphasis), done. It’s the real personal shit, the “should be aborted retroactively” stuff, that he cut out. “Obvious garbage and idiocy” is a technical term, programmers apply it to their own work all the time. Compilers are more technical in their language but we know what they mean.\n \n And was this mail, seen in its total impact, a hardship? He went down hard, yes, and thousands upon thousands of Linux *users* breathed a sigh of relief, seeing that Mauro’s attitude towards userland doesn’t fly.\n \n The hardest-hitting sentence in that mail is actually “You have shown yourself to not be competent in this issue”. Absolutely devastating. Taking context into account it’s the equivalent of telling a professional cook that their ingredients suck, what they did with them sucks, and most of all that the gall which which they claimed that the customer is wrong about their dinner sucking is completely, and utterly, unprofessional.\n \n Of course that’s hard on Mauro. There’s no way to tell someone about such an epic cock-up without being hard. But not going that far, avoiding that hardship for some notion of civility, now that would be right-out cruel. 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If anything, then an idiot (indirectly, by saying “I don’t want to hear that kind of garbage and idiocy from a kernel maintainer again”.\n \n How many of the people complaining about the mail being abusive or whatnot actually read it. 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Linus actually did it, doesn’t mean that he was an asshole before. 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I vastly prefer an angry-sounding takedown over a passive aggressive takedown and a takedown Mauro definitely deserved because his code was, in fact, utter shite, *and that as a maintainer*. This isn’t “oh he’s a noob he doesn’t know how the kernel works” type of territory. Also note that this happened *after* he had been told what’s up in a neutral and factual way: Linus, even in his most management by perkele days, never made those things the first reply to anything. So Mauro got his chance to spot that he fucked up and correct his approach, he didn’t, therefore, it has to be said loudly. Simple as that.\n \n Also, no “you should be aborted retroactively” in sight anywhere. Yeah that stuff wasn’t necessary even though everyone with an ounce of social intelligence should readily spot that those insults were always so over the top as to be obviously humorous. 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Mauro gets paid to work on the kernel and is not a noob who doesn’t know better, either, he’s a maintainer who fucked up basic maintenance." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 15 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701954818 {#1572 : 2023-12-07 14:13:38.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@jose1324@lemmy.world" "@redhat" "@Synthead@lemmy.world" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1548 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1554 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1556 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1555 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1620 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1604 …} -id: 206422 -bodyTs: "'address':8 'basic':39 'better':30 'doesn':27 'either':31 'fuck':37 'get':14 'kernel':20 'know':29 'maintain':35 'mainten':40 'mauro':13 'messag':4 'might':11 'noob':25 'notic':12 'paid':15 'redhat':7 'work':17" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7083443" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701954818 {#1563 : 2023-12-07 14:13:38.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206422 } 5 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1701 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1683 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +body: """ “being a dick” and “assertive” are weasel terms which do a hell a lot of lifting in your argument there. I have no idea where your line for behaviour to be deemed acceptable actually is.\n \n IMO, no, Linus wasn’t a dick. He called out a specific attitude and behaviour which Mauro is not supposed to show in his role as maintainer. What about Mauro being a dick because he went in all self-righteous like “this is a bug in pulseaudio”?\n \n If you were a restaurant manager, and a server told a customer that he’s not going to serve beer with steak but only wine because “drinking beer with steak is obviously wrong”, what would you do? Chew them out, of course. It’s way out of line. This isn’t Linus exploding over nothing just to bully someone, that’s a thing he has *never* done.\n \n If you want someone toxic to complain about in the FOSS space pick Lennart Poettering, the kind of guy who replies to “We’d like to be able to disable various features to keep things small” with “why do you hate disabled people they need accessibility”. More generally speaking: Focussing on tone never ends up well. You can be incredibly toxic in the most flowery of idioms. 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Switcharoos with actual substance and everyone is way more humble." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 4 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701962246 {#1630 : 2023-12-07 16:17:26.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@feddylemmy@lemmy.world" "@Windex007@lemmy.world" "@interceder270@lemmy.world" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1599 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1625 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1617 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1725 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1722 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1726 …} -id: 206790 -bodyTs: "'actual':9 'everyon':12 'humbl':16 'lemmi':4 'reddit':6 'substanc':10 'switcharoo':7 'way':14 'yep':1" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7087266" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701962246 {#1629 : 2023-12-07 16:17:26.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206790 } 3 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1737 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1734 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +body: """ > and being abusive\n \n There’s it again. What, precisely, is it that makes Linus’ comment “abusive”? Is he gaslighting? Is he attacking Mauro over what he is? All I see is calling out, harshly, what Mauro *did*, behaviour that actually occurred and that is not acceptable and that Mauro *knows* is not acceptable. “We do not break userspace” is the rule #1 of Linux development, Mauro ignored it *and* was a dick about it.\n \n Or do you disagree with the *tone* of the whole thing. Things like “Shut up” instead of “This is not up for discussion”. If so, then please for the love of the gods please shut up. 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Cut the “shut the fuck up”, the one or other “fuck” (but not all, some need to be there for emphasis), done. It’s the real personal shit, the “should be aborted retroactively” stuff, that he cut out. “Obvious garbage and idiocy” is a technical term, programmers apply it to their own work all the time. Compilers are more technical in their language but we know what they mean.\n \n And was this mail, seen in its total impact, a hardship? He went down hard, yes, and thousands upon thousands of Linux *users* breathed a sigh of relief, seeing that Mauro’s attitude towards userland doesn’t fly.\n \n The hardest-hitting sentence in that mail is actually “You have shown yourself to not be competent in this issue”. Absolutely devastating. Taking context into account it’s the equivalent of telling a professional cook that their ingredients suck, what they did with them sucks, and most of all that the gall which which they claimed that the customer is wrong about their dinner sucking is completely, and utterly, unprofessional.\n \n Of course that’s hard on Mauro. There’s no way to tell someone about such an epic cock-up without being hard. But not going that far, avoiding that hardship for some notion of civility, now that would be right-out cruel. 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If anything, then an idiot (indirectly, by saying “I don’t want to hear that kind of garbage and idiocy from a kernel maintainer again”.\n \n How many of the people complaining about the mail being abusive or whatnot actually read it. 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Linus actually did it, doesn’t mean that he was an asshole before. 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Follow the site-wide rules and [code of conduct](https://join-lemmy.org/docs/code_of_conduct.html)2. Be civil 3. Post Linux-related content 4. No recent reposts Please report posts and comments that break these rules! 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I vastly prefer an angry-sounding takedown over a passive aggressive takedown and a takedown Mauro definitely deserved because his code was, in fact, utter shite, *and that as a maintainer*. This isn’t “oh he’s a noob he doesn’t know how the kernel works” type of territory. Also note that this happened *after* he had been told what’s up in a neutral and factual way: Linus, even in his most management by perkele days, never made those things the first reply to anything. So Mauro got his chance to spot that he fucked up and correct his approach, he didn’t, therefore, it has to be said loudly. Simple as that.\n \n Also, no “you should be aborted retroactively” in sight anywhere. Yeah that stuff wasn’t necessary even though everyone with an ounce of social intelligence should readily spot that those insults were always so over the top as to be obviously humorous. 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Mauro gets paid to work on the kernel and is not a noob who doesn’t know better, either, he’s a maintainer who fucked up basic maintenance." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 15 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701954818 {#1572 : 2023-12-07 14:13:38.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@jose1324@lemmy.world" "@redhat" "@Synthead@lemmy.world" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1548 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1554 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1556 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1555 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1620 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1604 …} -id: 206422 -bodyTs: "'address':8 'basic':39 'better':30 'doesn':27 'either':31 'fuck':37 'get':14 'kernel':20 'know':29 'maintain':35 'mainten':40 'mauro':13 'messag':4 'might':11 'noob':25 'notic':12 'paid':15 'redhat':7 'work':17" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7083443" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701954818 {#1563 : 2023-12-07 14:13:38.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206422 } 5 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1701 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1683 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +body: """ “being a dick” and “assertive” are weasel terms which do a hell a lot of lifting in your argument there. I have no idea where your line for behaviour to be deemed acceptable actually is.\n \n IMO, no, Linus wasn’t a dick. He called out a specific attitude and behaviour which Mauro is not supposed to show in his role as maintainer. What about Mauro being a dick because he went in all self-righteous like “this is a bug in pulseaudio”?\n \n If you were a restaurant manager, and a server told a customer that he’s not going to serve beer with steak but only wine because “drinking beer with steak is obviously wrong”, what would you do? Chew them out, of course. It’s way out of line. This isn’t Linus exploding over nothing just to bully someone, that’s a thing he has *never* done.\n \n If you want someone toxic to complain about in the FOSS space pick Lennart Poettering, the kind of guy who replies to “We’d like to be able to disable various features to keep things small” with “why do you hate disabled people they need accessibility”. More generally speaking: Focussing on tone never ends up well. You can be incredibly toxic in the most flowery of idioms. 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Switcharoos with actual substance and everyone is way more humble." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 4 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701962246 {#1630 : 2023-12-07 16:17:26.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@feddylemmy@lemmy.world" "@Windex007@lemmy.world" "@interceder270@lemmy.world" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1599 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1625 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1617 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1725 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1722 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1726 …} -id: 206790 -bodyTs: "'actual':9 'everyon':12 'humbl':16 'lemmi':4 'reddit':6 'substanc':10 'switcharoo':7 'way':14 'yep':1" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7087266" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701962246 {#1629 : 2023-12-07 16:17:26.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206790 } 3 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1737 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1734 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +body: """ > and being abusive\n \n There’s it again. What, precisely, is it that makes Linus’ comment “abusive”? Is he gaslighting? Is he attacking Mauro over what he is? All I see is calling out, harshly, what Mauro *did*, behaviour that actually occurred and that is not acceptable and that Mauro *knows* is not acceptable. “We do not break userspace” is the rule #1 of Linux development, Mauro ignored it *and* was a dick about it.\n \n Or do you disagree with the *tone* of the whole thing. Things like “Shut up” instead of “This is not up for discussion”. If so, then please for the love of the gods please shut up. 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Cut the “shut the fuck up”, the one or other “fuck” (but not all, some need to be there for emphasis), done. It’s the real personal shit, the “should be aborted retroactively” stuff, that he cut out. “Obvious garbage and idiocy” is a technical term, programmers apply it to their own work all the time. Compilers are more technical in their language but we know what they mean.\n \n And was this mail, seen in its total impact, a hardship? He went down hard, yes, and thousands upon thousands of Linux *users* breathed a sigh of relief, seeing that Mauro’s attitude towards userland doesn’t fly.\n \n The hardest-hitting sentence in that mail is actually “You have shown yourself to not be competent in this issue”. Absolutely devastating. Taking context into account it’s the equivalent of telling a professional cook that their ingredients suck, what they did with them sucks, and most of all that the gall which which they claimed that the customer is wrong about their dinner sucking is completely, and utterly, unprofessional.\n \n Of course that’s hard on Mauro. There’s no way to tell someone about such an epic cock-up without being hard. But not going that far, avoiding that hardship for some notion of civility, now that would be right-out cruel. 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If anything, then an idiot (indirectly, by saying “I don’t want to hear that kind of garbage and idiocy from a kernel maintainer again”.\n \n How many of the people complaining about the mail being abusive or whatnot actually read it. 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Linus actually did it, doesn’t mean that he was an asshole before. Brash, sure, crass, yes, but actual assholes don’t calm down as easily." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 0 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701981074 {#1717 : 2023-12-07 21:31:14.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@jose1324@lemmy.world" "@redhat" "@Synthead@lemmy.world" "@barsoap@lemm.ee" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2465 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2463 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2411 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2422 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2458 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2456 …} -id: 208075 -bodyTs: "'accustom':11 'actual':27,44 'asshol':37,45 'becom':9 'brash':39 'calm':48 'crass':41 'develop':22 'doesn':30 'easili':51 'instead':16 'linus':26 'mean':32 'need':20 'other':25 'project':18 'sure':40 'us':7 'virtu':23 'wish':3 'work':13 'yes':42" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7097925" +editedAt: DateTimeImmutable @1703376112 {#1739 : 2023-12-24 01:01:52.0 +01:00 } +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701981074 {#1741 : 2023-12-07 21:31:14.0 +01:00 } +"title": 208075 } ] |
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---\n \n Sister communities:* [LemmyMemes](https://lemmy.world/c/memes@lemmy.world): Memes * [LemmyShitpost](https://lemmy.world/c/lemmyshitpost): Anything and everything goes. * [RISA](https://startrek.website/c/risa): Star Trek memes and shitposts\n \n Community rules1. Follow the site-wide rules and [code of conduct](https://join-lemmy.org/docs/code_of_conduct.html)2. Be civil 3. Post Linux-related content 4. No recent reposts Please report posts and comments that break these rules! """ +rules: null +subscriptionsCount: 1 +entryCount: 398 +entryCommentCount: 11895 +postCount: 1 +postCommentCount: 0 +isAdult: false +customCss: null +lastActive: DateTime @1726884280 {#3171 : 2024-09-21 04:04:40.0 +02:00 } +markedForDeletionAt: null +tags: null +moderators: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3175 …} +ownershipRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3177 …} +moderatorRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3179 …} +entries: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3181 …} +posts: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3183 …} +subscriptions: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3185 …} +bans: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3191 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3199 …} +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3212 …} +logs: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3222 …} +awards: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3204 …} +categories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3228 …} -id: 83 +apId: "linuxmemes@lemmy.world" +apProfileId: "https://lemmy.world/c/linuxmemes" +apPublicUrl: "https://lemmy.world/c/linuxmemes" +apFollowersUrl: "https://lemmy.world/c/linuxmemes/followers" +apInboxUrl: "https://lemmy.world/inbox" +apDomain: "lemmy.world" +apPreferredUsername: "linuxmemes" +apDiscoverable: true +apManuallyApprovesFollowers: null +privateKey: null +publicKey: null +apFetchedAt: DateTime @1719076635 {#3172 : 2024-06-22 19:17:15.0 +02:00 } +apDeletedAt: null +apTimeoutAt: null +visibility: "visible " +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1699095615 {#3173 : 2023-11-04 12:00:15.0 +01:00 } +__isInitialized__: true …2 } +image: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#2199 …} +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#2267 …} +slug: "Linus-does-not-fuck-around" +title: "Linus does not fuck around" +url: "https://lemmy.one/pictrs/image/f5614afd-25b9-4afe-a003-00eab7c7fb34.png" +body: "An oldie, but a goodie" +type: "image" +lang: "en" +isOc: false +hasEmbed: true +commentCount: 471 +favouriteCount: 1556 +score: 0 +isAdult: false +sticky: false +lastActive: DateTime @1720068489 {#2101 : 2024-07-04 06:48:09.0 +02:00 } +ip: null +adaAmount: 0 +tags: null +mentions: null +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2268 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2266 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2200 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2246 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2260 …} +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2142 …} +children: [ 7 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1614 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +body: """ Nah it’s completely fine. I vastly prefer an angry-sounding takedown over a passive aggressive takedown and a takedown Mauro definitely deserved because his code was, in fact, utter shite, *and that as a maintainer*. This isn’t “oh he’s a noob he doesn’t know how the kernel works” type of territory. Also note that this happened *after* he had been told what’s up in a neutral and factual way: Linus, even in his most management by perkele days, never made those things the first reply to anything. So Mauro got his chance to spot that he fucked up and correct his approach, he didn’t, therefore, it has to be said loudly. Simple as that.\n \n Also, no “you should be aborted retroactively” in sight anywhere. Yeah that stuff wasn’t necessary even though everyone with an ounce of social intelligence should readily spot that those insults were always so over the top as to be obviously humorous. """ +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 40 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701954766 {#1438 : 2023-12-07 14:12:46.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@feddylemmy@lemmy.world" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1651 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1652 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1650 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1671 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1568 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1560 …} -id: 206416 -bodyTs: "'abort':127 'aggress':17 'also':57,122 'alway':154 'angri':11 'angry-sound':10 'anyth':93 'anywher':131 'approach':108 'chanc':98 'code':27 'complet':4 'correct':106 'day':84 'definit':23 'deserv':24 'didn':110 'doesn':47 'even':77,138 'everyon':140 'fact':30 'factual':74 'fine':5 'first':90 'fuck':103 'got':96 'happen':61 'humor':163 'insult':152 'intellig':146 'isn':39 'kernel':52 'know':49 'linus':76 'loud':118 'made':86 'maintain':37 'manag':81 'mauro':22,95 'nah':1 'necessari':137 'neutral':72 'never':85 'noob':45 'note':58 'obvious':162 'oh':41 'ounc':143 'passiv':16 'perkel':83 'prefer':8 'readili':148 'repli':91 'retroact':128 'said':117 'shite':32 'sight':130 'simpl':119 'social':145 'sound':12 'spot':100,149 'stuff':134 'takedown':13,18,21 'territori':56 'therefor':112 'thing':88 'though':139 'told':66 'top':158 'type':54 'utter':31 'vast':7 'wasn':135 'way':75 'work':53 'yeah':132" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7083419" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701954766 {#1700 : 2023-12-07 14:12:46.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206416 } 6 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1562 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1566 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1559 …} +body: "This is a message to an @redhat address, as you might notice. Mauro gets paid to work on the kernel and is not a noob who doesn’t know better, either, he’s a maintainer who fucked up basic maintenance." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 15 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701954818 {#1572 : 2023-12-07 14:13:38.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@jose1324@lemmy.world" "@redhat" "@Synthead@lemmy.world" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1548 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1554 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1556 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1555 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1620 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1604 …} -id: 206422 -bodyTs: "'address':8 'basic':39 'better':30 'doesn':27 'either':31 'fuck':37 'get':14 'kernel':20 'know':29 'maintain':35 'mainten':40 'mauro':13 'messag':4 'might':11 'noob':25 'notic':12 'paid':15 'redhat':7 'work':17" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7083443" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701954818 {#1563 : 2023-12-07 14:13:38.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206422 } 5 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1701 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1683 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +body: """ “being a dick” and “assertive” are weasel terms which do a hell a lot of lifting in your argument there. I have no idea where your line for behaviour to be deemed acceptable actually is.\n \n IMO, no, Linus wasn’t a dick. He called out a specific attitude and behaviour which Mauro is not supposed to show in his role as maintainer. What about Mauro being a dick because he went in all self-righteous like “this is a bug in pulseaudio”?\n \n If you were a restaurant manager, and a server told a customer that he’s not going to serve beer with steak but only wine because “drinking beer with steak is obviously wrong”, what would you do? Chew them out, of course. It’s way out of line. This isn’t Linus exploding over nothing just to bully someone, that’s a thing he has *never* done.\n \n If you want someone toxic to complain about in the FOSS space pick Lennart Poettering, the kind of guy who replies to “We’d like to be able to disable various features to keep things small” with “why do you hate disabled people they need accessibility”. More generally speaking: Focussing on tone never ends up well. You can be incredibly toxic in the most flowery of idioms. 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Switcharoos with actual substance and everyone is way more humble." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 4 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701962246 {#1630 : 2023-12-07 16:17:26.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@feddylemmy@lemmy.world" "@Windex007@lemmy.world" "@interceder270@lemmy.world" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1599 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1625 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1617 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1725 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1722 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1726 …} -id: 206790 -bodyTs: "'actual':9 'everyon':12 'humbl':16 'lemmi':4 'reddit':6 'substanc':10 'switcharoo':7 'way':14 'yep':1" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7087266" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701962246 {#1629 : 2023-12-07 16:17:26.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206790 } 3 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1737 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1734 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +body: """ > and being abusive\n \n There’s it again. What, precisely, is it that makes Linus’ comment “abusive”? Is he gaslighting? Is he attacking Mauro over what he is? All I see is calling out, harshly, what Mauro *did*, behaviour that actually occurred and that is not acceptable and that Mauro *knows* is not acceptable. “We do not break userspace” is the rule #1 of Linux development, Mauro ignored it *and* was a dick about it.\n \n Or do you disagree with the *tone* of the whole thing. Things like “Shut up” instead of “This is not up for discussion”. If so, then please for the love of the gods please shut up. """ +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 6 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701968575 {#1736 : 2023-12-07 18:02:55.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@feddylemmy@lemmy.world" "@barsoap@lemm.ee" "@oatscoop@midwest.social" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1732 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1735 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1729 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1719 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1714 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1720 …} -id: 207200 -bodyTs: "'1':62 'abus':3,16 'accept':46,53 'actual':40 'attack':22 'behaviour':38 'break':57 'call':32 'comment':15 'develop':65 'dick':72 'disagre':78 'discuss':97 'gaslight':19 'god':107 'harsh':34 'ignor':67 'instead':90 'know':50 'like':87 'linus':14 'linux':64 'love':104 'make':13 'mauro':23,36,49,66 'occur':41 'pleas':101,108 'precis':9 'rule':61 'see':30 'shut':88,109 'thing':85,86 'tone':81 'userspac':58 'whole':84" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7090782" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701968575 {#1730 : 2023-12-07 18:02:55.0 +01:00 } +"title": 207200 } 2 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1740} 1 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#2454 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#2455 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1559 …} +body: """ Current-day Linus wouldn’t react much differently. Cut the “shut the fuck up”, the one or other “fuck” (but not all, some need to be there for emphasis), done. It’s the real personal shit, the “should be aborted retroactively” stuff, that he cut out. “Obvious garbage and idiocy” is a technical term, programmers apply it to their own work all the time. Compilers are more technical in their language but we know what they mean.\n \n And was this mail, seen in its total impact, a hardship? He went down hard, yes, and thousands upon thousands of Linux *users* breathed a sigh of relief, seeing that Mauro’s attitude towards userland doesn’t fly.\n \n The hardest-hitting sentence in that mail is actually “You have shown yourself to not be competent in this issue”. Absolutely devastating. Taking context into account it’s the equivalent of telling a professional cook that their ingredients suck, what they did with them sucks, and most of all that the gall which which they claimed that the customer is wrong about their dinner sucking is completely, and utterly, unprofessional.\n \n Of course that’s hard on Mauro. There’s no way to tell someone about such an epic cock-up without being hard. But not going that far, avoiding that hardship for some notion of civility, now that would be right-out cruel. 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If anything, then an idiot (indirectly, by saying “I don’t want to hear that kind of garbage and idiocy from a kernel maintainer again”.\n \n How many of the people complaining about the mail being abusive or whatnot actually read it. 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Linus actually did it, doesn’t mean that he was an asshole before. 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Follow the site-wide rules and [code of conduct](https://join-lemmy.org/docs/code_of_conduct.html)2. Be civil 3. Post Linux-related content 4. No recent reposts Please report posts and comments that break these rules! 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I vastly prefer an angry-sounding takedown over a passive aggressive takedown and a takedown Mauro definitely deserved because his code was, in fact, utter shite, *and that as a maintainer*. This isn’t “oh he’s a noob he doesn’t know how the kernel works” type of territory. Also note that this happened *after* he had been told what’s up in a neutral and factual way: Linus, even in his most management by perkele days, never made those things the first reply to anything. So Mauro got his chance to spot that he fucked up and correct his approach, he didn’t, therefore, it has to be said loudly. Simple as that.\n \n Also, no “you should be aborted retroactively” in sight anywhere. Yeah that stuff wasn’t necessary even though everyone with an ounce of social intelligence should readily spot that those insults were always so over the top as to be obviously humorous. 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Mauro gets paid to work on the kernel and is not a noob who doesn’t know better, either, he’s a maintainer who fucked up basic maintenance." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 15 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701954818 {#1572 : 2023-12-07 14:13:38.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@jose1324@lemmy.world" "@redhat" "@Synthead@lemmy.world" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1548 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1554 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1556 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1555 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1620 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1604 …} -id: 206422 -bodyTs: "'address':8 'basic':39 'better':30 'doesn':27 'either':31 'fuck':37 'get':14 'kernel':20 'know':29 'maintain':35 'mainten':40 'mauro':13 'messag':4 'might':11 'noob':25 'notic':12 'paid':15 'redhat':7 'work':17" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7083443" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701954818 {#1563 : 2023-12-07 14:13:38.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206422 } 5 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1701 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1683 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +body: """ “being a dick” and “assertive” are weasel terms which do a hell a lot of lifting in your argument there. I have no idea where your line for behaviour to be deemed acceptable actually is.\n \n IMO, no, Linus wasn’t a dick. He called out a specific attitude and behaviour which Mauro is not supposed to show in his role as maintainer. What about Mauro being a dick because he went in all self-righteous like “this is a bug in pulseaudio”?\n \n If you were a restaurant manager, and a server told a customer that he’s not going to serve beer with steak but only wine because “drinking beer with steak is obviously wrong”, what would you do? Chew them out, of course. It’s way out of line. This isn’t Linus exploding over nothing just to bully someone, that’s a thing he has *never* done.\n \n If you want someone toxic to complain about in the FOSS space pick Lennart Poettering, the kind of guy who replies to “We’d like to be able to disable various features to keep things small” with “why do you hate disabled people they need accessibility”. More generally speaking: Focussing on tone never ends up well. You can be incredibly toxic in the most flowery of idioms. 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Switcharoos with actual substance and everyone is way more humble." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 4 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701962246 {#1630 : 2023-12-07 16:17:26.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@feddylemmy@lemmy.world" "@Windex007@lemmy.world" "@interceder270@lemmy.world" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1599 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1625 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1617 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1725 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1722 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1726 …} -id: 206790 -bodyTs: "'actual':9 'everyon':12 'humbl':16 'lemmi':4 'reddit':6 'substanc':10 'switcharoo':7 'way':14 'yep':1" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7087266" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701962246 {#1629 : 2023-12-07 16:17:26.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206790 } 3 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1737 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1734 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +body: """ > and being abusive\n \n There’s it again. What, precisely, is it that makes Linus’ comment “abusive”? Is he gaslighting? Is he attacking Mauro over what he is? All I see is calling out, harshly, what Mauro *did*, behaviour that actually occurred and that is not acceptable and that Mauro *knows* is not acceptable. “We do not break userspace” is the rule #1 of Linux development, Mauro ignored it *and* was a dick about it.\n \n Or do you disagree with the *tone* of the whole thing. Things like “Shut up” instead of “This is not up for discussion”. If so, then please for the love of the gods please shut up. 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Linus actually did it, doesn’t mean that he was an asshole before. Brash, sure, crass, yes, but actual assholes don’t calm down as easily." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 0 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701981074 {#1717 : 2023-12-07 21:31:14.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@jose1324@lemmy.world" "@redhat" "@Synthead@lemmy.world" "@barsoap@lemm.ee" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2465 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2463 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2411 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2422 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2458 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2456 …} -id: 208075 -bodyTs: "'accustom':11 'actual':27,44 'asshol':37,45 'becom':9 'brash':39 'calm':48 'crass':41 'develop':22 'doesn':30 'easili':51 'instead':16 'linus':26 'mean':32 'need':20 'other':25 'project':18 'sure':40 'us':7 'virtu':23 'wish':3 'work':13 'yes':42" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7097925" +editedAt: DateTimeImmutable @1703376112 {#1739 : 2023-12-24 01:01:52.0 +01:00 } +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701981074 {#1741 : 2023-12-07 21:31:14.0 +01:00 } +"title": 208075 } 1 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#2454} 0 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#2372 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#2380 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#2386 …} +body: """ > " fuck you you fucking code fart"\n \n Linus didn’t call Mauro anything at all, much less a code fart. If anything, then an idiot (indirectly, by saying “I don’t want to hear that kind of garbage and idiocy from a kernel maintainer again”.\n \n How many of the people complaining about the mail being abusive or whatnot actually read it. 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Cut the “shut the fuck up”, the one or other “fuck” (but not all, some need to be there for emphasis), done. It’s the real personal shit, the “should be aborted retroactively” stuff, that he cut out. “Obvious garbage and idiocy” is a technical term, programmers apply it to their own work all the time. Compilers are more technical in their language but we know what they mean.\n \n And was this mail, seen in its total impact, a hardship? He went down hard, yes, and thousands upon thousands of Linux *users* breathed a sigh of relief, seeing that Mauro’s attitude towards userland doesn’t fly.\n \n The hardest-hitting sentence in that mail is actually “You have shown yourself to not be competent in this issue”. Absolutely devastating. Taking context into account it’s the equivalent of telling a professional cook that their ingredients suck, what they did with them sucks, and most of all that the gall which which they claimed that the customer is wrong about their dinner sucking is completely, and utterly, unprofessional.\n \n Of course that’s hard on Mauro. There’s no way to tell someone about such an epic cock-up without being hard. But not going that far, avoiding that hardship for some notion of civility, now that would be right-out cruel. 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""" +rules: null +subscriptionsCount: 1 +entryCount: 398 +entryCommentCount: 11895 +postCount: 1 +postCommentCount: 0 +isAdult: false +customCss: null +lastActive: DateTime @1726884280 {#3171 : 2024-09-21 04:04:40.0 +02:00 } +markedForDeletionAt: null +tags: null +moderators: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3175 …} +ownershipRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3177 …} +moderatorRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3179 …} +entries: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3181 …} +posts: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3183 …} +subscriptions: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3185 …} +bans: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3191 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3199 …} +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3212 …} +logs: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3222 …} +awards: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3204 …} +categories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3228 …} -id: 83 +apId: "linuxmemes@lemmy.world" +apProfileId: "https://lemmy.world/c/linuxmemes" +apPublicUrl: "https://lemmy.world/c/linuxmemes" +apFollowersUrl: "https://lemmy.world/c/linuxmemes/followers" +apInboxUrl: "https://lemmy.world/inbox" +apDomain: "lemmy.world" +apPreferredUsername: "linuxmemes" +apDiscoverable: true +apManuallyApprovesFollowers: null +privateKey: null +publicKey: null +apFetchedAt: DateTime @1719076635 {#3172 : 2024-06-22 19:17:15.0 +02:00 } +apDeletedAt: null +apTimeoutAt: null +visibility: "visible " +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1699095615 {#3173 : 2023-11-04 12:00:15.0 +01:00 } +__isInitialized__: true …2 } +image: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#2199 …} +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#2267 …} +slug: "Linus-does-not-fuck-around" +title: "Linus does not fuck around" +url: "https://lemmy.one/pictrs/image/f5614afd-25b9-4afe-a003-00eab7c7fb34.png" +body: "An oldie, but a goodie" +type: "image" +lang: "en" +isOc: false +hasEmbed: true +commentCount: 471 +favouriteCount: 1556 +score: 0 +isAdult: false +sticky: false +lastActive: DateTime @1720068489 {#2101 : 2024-07-04 06:48:09.0 +02:00 } +ip: null +adaAmount: 0 +tags: null +mentions: null +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2268 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2266 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2200 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2246 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2260 …} +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2142 …} +children: [ 7 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1614 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +body: """ Nah it’s completely fine. I vastly prefer an angry-sounding takedown over a passive aggressive takedown and a takedown Mauro definitely deserved because his code was, in fact, utter shite, *and that as a maintainer*. This isn’t “oh he’s a noob he doesn’t know how the kernel works” type of territory. Also note that this happened *after* he had been told what’s up in a neutral and factual way: Linus, even in his most management by perkele days, never made those things the first reply to anything. So Mauro got his chance to spot that he fucked up and correct his approach, he didn’t, therefore, it has to be said loudly. Simple as that.\n \n Also, no “you should be aborted retroactively” in sight anywhere. Yeah that stuff wasn’t necessary even though everyone with an ounce of social intelligence should readily spot that those insults were always so over the top as to be obviously humorous. """ +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 40 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701954766 {#1438 : 2023-12-07 14:12:46.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@feddylemmy@lemmy.world" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1651 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1652 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1650 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1671 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1568 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1560 …} -id: 206416 -bodyTs: "'abort':127 'aggress':17 'also':57,122 'alway':154 'angri':11 'angry-sound':10 'anyth':93 'anywher':131 'approach':108 'chanc':98 'code':27 'complet':4 'correct':106 'day':84 'definit':23 'deserv':24 'didn':110 'doesn':47 'even':77,138 'everyon':140 'fact':30 'factual':74 'fine':5 'first':90 'fuck':103 'got':96 'happen':61 'humor':163 'insult':152 'intellig':146 'isn':39 'kernel':52 'know':49 'linus':76 'loud':118 'made':86 'maintain':37 'manag':81 'mauro':22,95 'nah':1 'necessari':137 'neutral':72 'never':85 'noob':45 'note':58 'obvious':162 'oh':41 'ounc':143 'passiv':16 'perkel':83 'prefer':8 'readili':148 'repli':91 'retroact':128 'said':117 'shite':32 'sight':130 'simpl':119 'social':145 'sound':12 'spot':100,149 'stuff':134 'takedown':13,18,21 'territori':56 'therefor':112 'thing':88 'though':139 'told':66 'top':158 'type':54 'utter':31 'vast':7 'wasn':135 'way':75 'work':53 'yeah':132" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7083419" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701954766 {#1700 : 2023-12-07 14:12:46.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206416 } 6 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1562 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1566 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1559 …} +body: "This is a message to an @redhat address, as you might notice. Mauro gets paid to work on the kernel and is not a noob who doesn’t know better, either, he’s a maintainer who fucked up basic maintenance." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 15 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701954818 {#1572 : 2023-12-07 14:13:38.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@jose1324@lemmy.world" "@redhat" "@Synthead@lemmy.world" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1548 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1554 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1556 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1555 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1620 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1604 …} -id: 206422 -bodyTs: "'address':8 'basic':39 'better':30 'doesn':27 'either':31 'fuck':37 'get':14 'kernel':20 'know':29 'maintain':35 'mainten':40 'mauro':13 'messag':4 'might':11 'noob':25 'notic':12 'paid':15 'redhat':7 'work':17" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7083443" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701954818 {#1563 : 2023-12-07 14:13:38.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206422 } 5 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1701 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1683 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +body: """ “being a dick” and “assertive” are weasel terms which do a hell a lot of lifting in your argument there. I have no idea where your line for behaviour to be deemed acceptable actually is.\n \n IMO, no, Linus wasn’t a dick. He called out a specific attitude and behaviour which Mauro is not supposed to show in his role as maintainer. What about Mauro being a dick because he went in all self-righteous like “this is a bug in pulseaudio”?\n \n If you were a restaurant manager, and a server told a customer that he’s not going to serve beer with steak but only wine because “drinking beer with steak is obviously wrong”, what would you do? Chew them out, of course. It’s way out of line. This isn’t Linus exploding over nothing just to bully someone, that’s a thing he has *never* done.\n \n If you want someone toxic to complain about in the FOSS space pick Lennart Poettering, the kind of guy who replies to “We’d like to be able to disable various features to keep things small” with “why do you hate disabled people they need accessibility”. More generally speaking: Focussing on tone never ends up well. You can be incredibly toxic in the most flowery of idioms. """ +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 11 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701959697 {#1619 : 2023-12-07 15:34:57.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@feddylemmy@lemmy.world" "@barsoap@lemm.ee" "@oatscoop@midwest.social" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1687 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1689 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1691 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1795 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1711 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1611 …} -id: 206639 -bodyTs: "'abl':178 'accept':33 'access':196 'actual':34 'argument':19 'assert':5 'attitud':48 'beer':103,111 'behaviour':29,50 'bug':81 'bulli':141 'call':44 'chew':121 'complain':157 'cours':125 'custom':95 'd':174 'deem':32 'dick':3,42,68 'disabl':180,192 'done':150 'drink':110 'end':204 'explod':136 'featur':182 'floweri':215 'focuss':200 'foss':161 'general':198 'go':100 'guy':169 'hate':191 'hell':12 'idea':24 'idiom':217 'imo':36 'incred':210 'isn':133 'keep':184 'kind':167 'lennart':164 'lift':16 'like':77,175 'line':27,131 'linus':38,135 'lot':14 'maintain':62 'manag':89 'mauro':52,65 'need':195 'never':149,203 'noth':138 'obvious':115 'peopl':193 'pick':163 'poetter':165 'pulseaudio':83 'repli':171 'restaur':88 'righteous':76 'role':60 'self':75 'self-right':74 'serv':102 'server':92 'show':57 'small':186 'someon':142,154 'space':162 'speak':199 'specif':47 'steak':105,113 'suppos':55 'term':8 'thing':146,185 'told':93 'tone':202 'toxic':155,211 'various':181 'want':153 'wasn':39 'way':128 'weasel':7 'well':206 'went':71 'wine':108 'would':118 'wrong':116" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7085819" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701959697 {#1702 : 2023-12-07 15:34:57.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206639 } 4 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1628 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1626 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +body: "Yep this is lemmy not reddit. Switcharoos with actual substance and everyone is way more humble." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 4 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701962246 {#1630 : 2023-12-07 16:17:26.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@feddylemmy@lemmy.world" "@Windex007@lemmy.world" "@interceder270@lemmy.world" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1599 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1625 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1617 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1725 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1722 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1726 …} -id: 206790 -bodyTs: "'actual':9 'everyon':12 'humbl':16 'lemmi':4 'reddit':6 'substanc':10 'switcharoo':7 'way':14 'yep':1" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7087266" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701962246 {#1629 : 2023-12-07 16:17:26.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206790 } 3 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1737 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1734 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +body: """ > and being abusive\n \n There’s it again. What, precisely, is it that makes Linus’ comment “abusive”? Is he gaslighting? Is he attacking Mauro over what he is? All I see is calling out, harshly, what Mauro *did*, behaviour that actually occurred and that is not acceptable and that Mauro *knows* is not acceptable. “We do not break userspace” is the rule #1 of Linux development, Mauro ignored it *and* was a dick about it.\n \n Or do you disagree with the *tone* of the whole thing. Things like “Shut up” instead of “This is not up for discussion”. If so, then please for the love of the gods please shut up. """ +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 6 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701968575 {#1736 : 2023-12-07 18:02:55.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@feddylemmy@lemmy.world" "@barsoap@lemm.ee" "@oatscoop@midwest.social" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1732 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1735 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1729 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1719 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1714 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1720 …} -id: 207200 -bodyTs: "'1':62 'abus':3,16 'accept':46,53 'actual':40 'attack':22 'behaviour':38 'break':57 'call':32 'comment':15 'develop':65 'dick':72 'disagre':78 'discuss':97 'gaslight':19 'god':107 'harsh':34 'ignor':67 'instead':90 'know':50 'like':87 'linus':14 'linux':64 'love':104 'make':13 'mauro':23,36,49,66 'occur':41 'pleas':101,108 'precis':9 'rule':61 'see':30 'shut':88,109 'thing':85,86 'tone':81 'userspac':58 'whole':84" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7090782" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701968575 {#1730 : 2023-12-07 18:02:55.0 +01:00 } +"title": 207200 } 2 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1740 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1707 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1559 …} +body: "I just wish for all of us to become more accustomed to working on ourselves instead of projecting the need to develop virtue on others. Linus actually did it, doesn’t mean that he was an asshole before. Brash, sure, crass, yes, but actual assholes don’t calm down as easily." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 0 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701981074 {#1717 : 2023-12-07 21:31:14.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@jose1324@lemmy.world" "@redhat" "@Synthead@lemmy.world" "@barsoap@lemm.ee" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2465 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2463 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2411 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2422 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2458 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2456 …} -id: 208075 -bodyTs: "'accustom':11 'actual':27,44 'asshol':37,45 'becom':9 'brash':39 'calm':48 'crass':41 'develop':22 'doesn':30 'easili':51 'instead':16 'linus':26 'mean':32 'need':20 'other':25 'project':18 'sure':40 'us':7 'virtu':23 'wish':3 'work':13 'yes':42" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7097925" +editedAt: DateTimeImmutable @1703376112 {#1739 : 2023-12-24 01:01:52.0 +01:00 } +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701981074 {#1741 : 2023-12-07 21:31:14.0 +01:00 } +"title": 208075 } 1 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#2454} 0 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#2372 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#2380 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#2386 …} +body: """ > " fuck you you fucking code fart"\n \n Linus didn’t call Mauro anything at all, much less a code fart. If anything, then an idiot (indirectly, by saying “I don’t want to hear that kind of garbage and idiocy from a kernel maintainer again”.\n \n How many of the people complaining about the mail being abusive or whatnot actually read it. 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Cut the “shut the fuck up”, the one or other “fuck” (but not all, some need to be there for emphasis), done. It’s the real personal shit, the “should be aborted retroactively” stuff, that he cut out. “Obvious garbage and idiocy” is a technical term, programmers apply it to their own work all the time. Compilers are more technical in their language but we know what they mean.\n \n And was this mail, seen in its total impact, a hardship? He went down hard, yes, and thousands upon thousands of Linux *users* breathed a sigh of relief, seeing that Mauro’s attitude towards userland doesn’t fly.\n \n The hardest-hitting sentence in that mail is actually “You have shown yourself to not be competent in this issue”. Absolutely devastating. Taking context into account it’s the equivalent of telling a professional cook that their ingredients suck, what they did with them sucks, and most of all that the gall which which they claimed that the customer is wrong about their dinner sucking is completely, and utterly, unprofessional.\n \n Of course that’s hard on Mauro. There’s no way to tell someone about such an epic cock-up without being hard. But not going that far, avoiding that hardship for some notion of civility, now that would be right-out cruel. 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date | App\Twig\Components\DateComponent | 12.0 MiB | 0.14 ms | |
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Input props | [ "date" => DateTimeImmutable @1701983705 {#2457 : 2023-12-07 22:15:05.0 +01:00 } ] |
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Component | App\Twig\Components\DateComponent {#7455 +date: DateTimeImmutable @1701983705 {#2457 : 2023-12-07 22:15:05.0 +01:00 } } |
date_edited | App\Twig\Components\DateEditedComponent | 12.0 MiB | 0.14 ms | |
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Input props | [ "createdAt" => DateTimeImmutable @1701983705 {#2457 : 2023-12-07 22:15:05.0 +01:00 } "editedAt" => DateTimeImmutable @1703380929 {#2452 : 2023-12-24 02:22:09.0 +01:00 } ] |
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Component | App\Twig\Components\DateEditedComponent {#7509 +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701983705 {#2457 : 2023-12-07 22:15:05.0 +01:00 } +editedAt: DateTimeImmutable @1703380929 {#2452 : 2023-12-24 02:22:09.0 +01:00 } } |
user_avatar | App\Twig\Components\UserAvatarComponent | 12.0 MiB | 0.15 ms | |
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vote | App\Twig\Components\VoteComponent | 12.0 MiB | 0.44 ms | |
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Follow the site-wide rules and [code of conduct](https://join-lemmy.org/docs/code_of_conduct.html)2. Be civil 3. Post Linux-related content 4. No recent reposts Please report posts and comments that break these rules! 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I vastly prefer an angry-sounding takedown over a passive aggressive takedown and a takedown Mauro definitely deserved because his code was, in fact, utter shite, *and that as a maintainer*. This isn’t “oh he’s a noob he doesn’t know how the kernel works” type of territory. Also note that this happened *after* he had been told what’s up in a neutral and factual way: Linus, even in his most management by perkele days, never made those things the first reply to anything. So Mauro got his chance to spot that he fucked up and correct his approach, he didn’t, therefore, it has to be said loudly. Simple as that.\n \n Also, no “you should be aborted retroactively” in sight anywhere. Yeah that stuff wasn’t necessary even though everyone with an ounce of social intelligence should readily spot that those insults were always so over the top as to be obviously humorous. """ +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 40 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701954766 {#1438 : 2023-12-07 14:12:46.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@feddylemmy@lemmy.world" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1651 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1652 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1650 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1671 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1568 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1560 …} -id: 206416 -bodyTs: "'abort':127 'aggress':17 'also':57,122 'alway':154 'angri':11 'angry-sound':10 'anyth':93 'anywher':131 'approach':108 'chanc':98 'code':27 'complet':4 'correct':106 'day':84 'definit':23 'deserv':24 'didn':110 'doesn':47 'even':77,138 'everyon':140 'fact':30 'factual':74 'fine':5 'first':90 'fuck':103 'got':96 'happen':61 'humor':163 'insult':152 'intellig':146 'isn':39 'kernel':52 'know':49 'linus':76 'loud':118 'made':86 'maintain':37 'manag':81 'mauro':22,95 'nah':1 'necessari':137 'neutral':72 'never':85 'noob':45 'note':58 'obvious':162 'oh':41 'ounc':143 'passiv':16 'perkel':83 'prefer':8 'readili':148 'repli':91 'retroact':128 'said':117 'shite':32 'sight':130 'simpl':119 'social':145 'sound':12 'spot':100,149 'stuff':134 'takedown':13,18,21 'territori':56 'therefor':112 'thing':88 'though':139 'told':66 'top':158 'type':54 'utter':31 'vast':7 'wasn':135 'way':75 'work':53 'yeah':132" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7083419" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701954766 {#1700 : 2023-12-07 14:12:46.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206416 } 6 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1562 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1566 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1559 …} +body: "This is a message to an @redhat address, as you might notice. Mauro gets paid to work on the kernel and is not a noob who doesn’t know better, either, he’s a maintainer who fucked up basic maintenance." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 15 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701954818 {#1572 : 2023-12-07 14:13:38.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@jose1324@lemmy.world" "@redhat" "@Synthead@lemmy.world" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1548 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1554 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1556 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1555 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1620 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1604 …} -id: 206422 -bodyTs: "'address':8 'basic':39 'better':30 'doesn':27 'either':31 'fuck':37 'get':14 'kernel':20 'know':29 'maintain':35 'mainten':40 'mauro':13 'messag':4 'might':11 'noob':25 'notic':12 'paid':15 'redhat':7 'work':17" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7083443" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701954818 {#1563 : 2023-12-07 14:13:38.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206422 } 5 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1701 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1683 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +body: """ “being a dick” and “assertive” are weasel terms which do a hell a lot of lifting in your argument there. I have no idea where your line for behaviour to be deemed acceptable actually is.\n \n IMO, no, Linus wasn’t a dick. He called out a specific attitude and behaviour which Mauro is not supposed to show in his role as maintainer. What about Mauro being a dick because he went in all self-righteous like “this is a bug in pulseaudio”?\n \n If you were a restaurant manager, and a server told a customer that he’s not going to serve beer with steak but only wine because “drinking beer with steak is obviously wrong”, what would you do? Chew them out, of course. It’s way out of line. This isn’t Linus exploding over nothing just to bully someone, that’s a thing he has *never* done.\n \n If you want someone toxic to complain about in the FOSS space pick Lennart Poettering, the kind of guy who replies to “We’d like to be able to disable various features to keep things small” with “why do you hate disabled people they need accessibility”. More generally speaking: Focussing on tone never ends up well. You can be incredibly toxic in the most flowery of idioms. 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Switcharoos with actual substance and everyone is way more humble." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 4 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701962246 {#1630 : 2023-12-07 16:17:26.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@feddylemmy@lemmy.world" "@Windex007@lemmy.world" "@interceder270@lemmy.world" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1599 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1625 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1617 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1725 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1722 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1726 …} -id: 206790 -bodyTs: "'actual':9 'everyon':12 'humbl':16 'lemmi':4 'reddit':6 'substanc':10 'switcharoo':7 'way':14 'yep':1" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7087266" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701962246 {#1629 : 2023-12-07 16:17:26.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206790 } 3 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1737 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1734 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +body: """ > and being abusive\n \n There’s it again. What, precisely, is it that makes Linus’ comment “abusive”? Is he gaslighting? Is he attacking Mauro over what he is? All I see is calling out, harshly, what Mauro *did*, behaviour that actually occurred and that is not acceptable and that Mauro *knows* is not acceptable. “We do not break userspace” is the rule #1 of Linux development, Mauro ignored it *and* was a dick about it.\n \n Or do you disagree with the *tone* of the whole thing. Things like “Shut up” instead of “This is not up for discussion”. If so, then please for the love of the gods please shut up. """ +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 6 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701968575 {#1736 : 2023-12-07 18:02:55.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@feddylemmy@lemmy.world" "@barsoap@lemm.ee" "@oatscoop@midwest.social" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1732 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1735 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1729 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1719 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1714 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1720 …} -id: 207200 -bodyTs: "'1':62 'abus':3,16 'accept':46,53 'actual':40 'attack':22 'behaviour':38 'break':57 'call':32 'comment':15 'develop':65 'dick':72 'disagre':78 'discuss':97 'gaslight':19 'god':107 'harsh':34 'ignor':67 'instead':90 'know':50 'like':87 'linus':14 'linux':64 'love':104 'make':13 'mauro':23,36,49,66 'occur':41 'pleas':101,108 'precis':9 'rule':61 'see':30 'shut':88,109 'thing':85,86 'tone':81 'userspac':58 'whole':84" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7090782" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701968575 {#1730 : 2023-12-07 18:02:55.0 +01:00 } +"title": 207200 } 2 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1740 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1707 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1559 …} +body: "I just wish for all of us to become more accustomed to working on ourselves instead of projecting the need to develop virtue on others. Linus actually did it, doesn’t mean that he was an asshole before. Brash, sure, crass, yes, but actual assholes don’t calm down as easily." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 0 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701981074 {#1717 : 2023-12-07 21:31:14.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@jose1324@lemmy.world" "@redhat" "@Synthead@lemmy.world" "@barsoap@lemm.ee" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2465 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2463 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2411 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2422 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2458 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2456 …} -id: 208075 -bodyTs: "'accustom':11 'actual':27,44 'asshol':37,45 'becom':9 'brash':39 'calm':48 'crass':41 'develop':22 'doesn':30 'easili':51 'instead':16 'linus':26 'mean':32 'need':20 'other':25 'project':18 'sure':40 'us':7 'virtu':23 'wish':3 'work':13 'yes':42" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7097925" +editedAt: DateTimeImmutable @1703376112 {#1739 : 2023-12-24 01:01:52.0 +01:00 } +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701981074 {#1741 : 2023-12-07 21:31:14.0 +01:00 } +"title": 208075 } 1 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#2454} 0 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#2372 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#2380 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#2386 …} +body: """ > " fuck you you fucking code fart"\n \n Linus didn’t call Mauro anything at all, much less a code fart. If anything, then an idiot (indirectly, by saying “I don’t want to hear that kind of garbage and idiocy from a kernel maintainer again”.\n \n How many of the people complaining about the mail being abusive or whatnot actually read it. 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Cut the “shut the fuck up”, the one or other “fuck” (but not all, some need to be there for emphasis), done. It’s the real personal shit, the “should be aborted retroactively” stuff, that he cut out. “Obvious garbage and idiocy” is a technical term, programmers apply it to their own work all the time. Compilers are more technical in their language but we know what they mean.\n \n And was this mail, seen in its total impact, a hardship? He went down hard, yes, and thousands upon thousands of Linux *users* breathed a sigh of relief, seeing that Mauro’s attitude towards userland doesn’t fly.\n \n The hardest-hitting sentence in that mail is actually “You have shown yourself to not be competent in this issue”. Absolutely devastating. Taking context into account it’s the equivalent of telling a professional cook that their ingredients suck, what they did with them sucks, and most of all that the gall which which they claimed that the customer is wrong about their dinner sucking is completely, and utterly, unprofessional.\n \n Of course that’s hard on Mauro. There’s no way to tell someone about such an epic cock-up without being hard. But not going that far, avoiding that hardship for some notion of civility, now that would be right-out cruel. 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---\n \n Sister communities:* [LemmyMemes](https://lemmy.world/c/memes@lemmy.world): Memes * [LemmyShitpost](https://lemmy.world/c/lemmyshitpost): Anything and everything goes. * [RISA](https://startrek.website/c/risa): Star Trek memes and shitposts\n \n Community rules1. Follow the site-wide rules and [code of conduct](https://join-lemmy.org/docs/code_of_conduct.html)2. Be civil 3. Post Linux-related content 4. No recent reposts Please report posts and comments that break these rules! """ +rules: null +subscriptionsCount: 1 +entryCount: 398 +entryCommentCount: 11895 +postCount: 1 +postCommentCount: 0 +isAdult: false +customCss: null +lastActive: DateTime @1726884280 {#3171 : 2024-09-21 04:04:40.0 +02:00 } +markedForDeletionAt: null +tags: null +moderators: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3175 …} +ownershipRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3177 …} +moderatorRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3179 …} +entries: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3181 …} +posts: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3183 …} +subscriptions: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3185 …} +bans: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3191 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3199 …} +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3212 …} +logs: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3222 …} +awards: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3204 …} +categories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3228 …} -id: 83 +apId: "linuxmemes@lemmy.world" +apProfileId: "https://lemmy.world/c/linuxmemes" +apPublicUrl: "https://lemmy.world/c/linuxmemes" +apFollowersUrl: "https://lemmy.world/c/linuxmemes/followers" +apInboxUrl: "https://lemmy.world/inbox" +apDomain: "lemmy.world" +apPreferredUsername: "linuxmemes" +apDiscoverable: true +apManuallyApprovesFollowers: null +privateKey: null +publicKey: null +apFetchedAt: DateTime @1719076635 {#3172 : 2024-06-22 19:17:15.0 +02:00 } +apDeletedAt: null +apTimeoutAt: null +visibility: "visible " +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1699095615 {#3173 : 2023-11-04 12:00:15.0 +01:00 } +__isInitialized__: true …2 } +image: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#2199 …} +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#2267 …} +slug: "Linus-does-not-fuck-around" +title: "Linus does not fuck around" +url: "https://lemmy.one/pictrs/image/f5614afd-25b9-4afe-a003-00eab7c7fb34.png" +body: "An oldie, but a goodie" +type: "image" +lang: "en" +isOc: false +hasEmbed: true +commentCount: 471 +favouriteCount: 1556 +score: 0 +isAdult: false +sticky: false +lastActive: DateTime @1720068489 {#2101 : 2024-07-04 06:48:09.0 +02:00 } +ip: null +adaAmount: 0 +tags: null +mentions: null +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2268 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2266 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2200 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2246 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2260 …} +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2142 …} +children: [ 7 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1614 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +body: """ Nah it’s completely fine. I vastly prefer an angry-sounding takedown over a passive aggressive takedown and a takedown Mauro definitely deserved because his code was, in fact, utter shite, *and that as a maintainer*. This isn’t “oh he’s a noob he doesn’t know how the kernel works” type of territory. Also note that this happened *after* he had been told what’s up in a neutral and factual way: Linus, even in his most management by perkele days, never made those things the first reply to anything. So Mauro got his chance to spot that he fucked up and correct his approach, he didn’t, therefore, it has to be said loudly. Simple as that.\n \n Also, no “you should be aborted retroactively” in sight anywhere. Yeah that stuff wasn’t necessary even though everyone with an ounce of social intelligence should readily spot that those insults were always so over the top as to be obviously humorous. 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Mauro gets paid to work on the kernel and is not a noob who doesn’t know better, either, he’s a maintainer who fucked up basic maintenance." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 15 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701954818 {#1572 : 2023-12-07 14:13:38.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@jose1324@lemmy.world" "@redhat" "@Synthead@lemmy.world" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1548 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1554 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1556 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1555 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1620 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1604 …} -id: 206422 -bodyTs: "'address':8 'basic':39 'better':30 'doesn':27 'either':31 'fuck':37 'get':14 'kernel':20 'know':29 'maintain':35 'mainten':40 'mauro':13 'messag':4 'might':11 'noob':25 'notic':12 'paid':15 'redhat':7 'work':17" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7083443" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701954818 {#1563 : 2023-12-07 14:13:38.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206422 } 5 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1701 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1683 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +body: """ “being a dick” and “assertive” are weasel terms which do a hell a lot of lifting in your argument there. I have no idea where your line for behaviour to be deemed acceptable actually is.\n \n IMO, no, Linus wasn’t a dick. He called out a specific attitude and behaviour which Mauro is not supposed to show in his role as maintainer. What about Mauro being a dick because he went in all self-righteous like “this is a bug in pulseaudio”?\n \n If you were a restaurant manager, and a server told a customer that he’s not going to serve beer with steak but only wine because “drinking beer with steak is obviously wrong”, what would you do? Chew them out, of course. It’s way out of line. This isn’t Linus exploding over nothing just to bully someone, that’s a thing he has *never* done.\n \n If you want someone toxic to complain about in the FOSS space pick Lennart Poettering, the kind of guy who replies to “We’d like to be able to disable various features to keep things small” with “why do you hate disabled people they need accessibility”. More generally speaking: Focussing on tone never ends up well. You can be incredibly toxic in the most flowery of idioms. 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Switcharoos with actual substance and everyone is way more humble." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 4 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701962246 {#1630 : 2023-12-07 16:17:26.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@feddylemmy@lemmy.world" "@Windex007@lemmy.world" "@interceder270@lemmy.world" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1599 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1625 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1617 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1725 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1722 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1726 …} -id: 206790 -bodyTs: "'actual':9 'everyon':12 'humbl':16 'lemmi':4 'reddit':6 'substanc':10 'switcharoo':7 'way':14 'yep':1" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7087266" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701962246 {#1629 : 2023-12-07 16:17:26.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206790 } 3 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1737 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1734 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +body: """ > and being abusive\n \n There’s it again. What, precisely, is it that makes Linus’ comment “abusive”? Is he gaslighting? Is he attacking Mauro over what he is? All I see is calling out, harshly, what Mauro *did*, behaviour that actually occurred and that is not acceptable and that Mauro *knows* is not acceptable. “We do not break userspace” is the rule #1 of Linux development, Mauro ignored it *and* was a dick about it.\n \n Or do you disagree with the *tone* of the whole thing. Things like “Shut up” instead of “This is not up for discussion”. If so, then please for the love of the gods please shut up. """ +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 6 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701968575 {#1736 : 2023-12-07 18:02:55.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@feddylemmy@lemmy.world" "@barsoap@lemm.ee" "@oatscoop@midwest.social" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1732 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1735 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1729 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1719 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1714 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1720 …} -id: 207200 -bodyTs: "'1':62 'abus':3,16 'accept':46,53 'actual':40 'attack':22 'behaviour':38 'break':57 'call':32 'comment':15 'develop':65 'dick':72 'disagre':78 'discuss':97 'gaslight':19 'god':107 'harsh':34 'ignor':67 'instead':90 'know':50 'like':87 'linus':14 'linux':64 'love':104 'make':13 'mauro':23,36,49,66 'occur':41 'pleas':101,108 'precis':9 'rule':61 'see':30 'shut':88,109 'thing':85,86 'tone':81 'userspac':58 'whole':84" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7090782" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701968575 {#1730 : 2023-12-07 18:02:55.0 +01:00 } +"title": 207200 } 2 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1740 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1707 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1559 …} +body: "I just wish for all of us to become more accustomed to working on ourselves instead of projecting the need to develop virtue on others. Linus actually did it, doesn’t mean that he was an asshole before. Brash, sure, crass, yes, but actual assholes don’t calm down as easily." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 0 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701981074 {#1717 : 2023-12-07 21:31:14.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@jose1324@lemmy.world" "@redhat" "@Synthead@lemmy.world" "@barsoap@lemm.ee" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2465 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2463 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2411 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2422 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2458 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2456 …} -id: 208075 -bodyTs: "'accustom':11 'actual':27,44 'asshol':37,45 'becom':9 'brash':39 'calm':48 'crass':41 'develop':22 'doesn':30 'easili':51 'instead':16 'linus':26 'mean':32 'need':20 'other':25 'project':18 'sure':40 'us':7 'virtu':23 'wish':3 'work':13 'yes':42" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7097925" +editedAt: DateTimeImmutable @1703376112 {#1739 : 2023-12-24 01:01:52.0 +01:00 } +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701981074 {#1741 : 2023-12-07 21:31:14.0 +01:00 } +"title": 208075 } 1 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#2454} 0 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#2372 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#2380 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#2386 …} +body: """ > " fuck you you fucking code fart"\n \n Linus didn’t call Mauro anything at all, much less a code fart. If anything, then an idiot (indirectly, by saying “I don’t want to hear that kind of garbage and idiocy from a kernel maintainer again”.\n \n How many of the people complaining about the mail being abusive or whatnot actually read it. 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Cut the “shut the fuck up”, the one or other “fuck” (but not all, some need to be there for emphasis), done. It’s the real personal shit, the “should be aborted retroactively” stuff, that he cut out. “Obvious garbage and idiocy” is a technical term, programmers apply it to their own work all the time. Compilers are more technical in their language but we know what they mean.\n \n And was this mail, seen in its total impact, a hardship? He went down hard, yes, and thousands upon thousands of Linux *users* breathed a sigh of relief, seeing that Mauro’s attitude towards userland doesn’t fly.\n \n The hardest-hitting sentence in that mail is actually “You have shown yourself to not be competent in this issue”. Absolutely devastating. Taking context into account it’s the equivalent of telling a professional cook that their ingredients suck, what they did with them sucks, and most of all that the gall which which they claimed that the customer is wrong about their dinner sucking is completely, and utterly, unprofessional.\n \n Of course that’s hard on Mauro. There’s no way to tell someone about such an epic cock-up without being hard. But not going that far, avoiding that hardship for some notion of civility, now that would be right-out cruel. 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I vastly prefer an angry-sounding takedown over a passive aggressive takedown and a takedown Mauro definitely deserved because his code was, in fact, utter shite, *and that as a maintainer*. This isn’t “oh he’s a noob he doesn’t know how the kernel works” type of territory. Also note that this happened *after* he had been told what’s up in a neutral and factual way: Linus, even in his most management by perkele days, never made those things the first reply to anything. So Mauro got his chance to spot that he fucked up and correct his approach, he didn’t, therefore, it has to be said loudly. Simple as that.\n \n Also, no “you should be aborted retroactively” in sight anywhere. Yeah that stuff wasn’t necessary even though everyone with an ounce of social intelligence should readily spot that those insults were always so over the top as to be obviously humorous. 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Mauro gets paid to work on the kernel and is not a noob who doesn’t know better, either, he’s a maintainer who fucked up basic maintenance." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 15 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701954818 {#1572 : 2023-12-07 14:13:38.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@jose1324@lemmy.world" "@redhat" "@Synthead@lemmy.world" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1548 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1554 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1556 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1555 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1620 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1604 …} -id: 206422 -bodyTs: "'address':8 'basic':39 'better':30 'doesn':27 'either':31 'fuck':37 'get':14 'kernel':20 'know':29 'maintain':35 'mainten':40 'mauro':13 'messag':4 'might':11 'noob':25 'notic':12 'paid':15 'redhat':7 'work':17" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7083443" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701954818 {#1563 : 2023-12-07 14:13:38.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206422 } 5 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1701 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1683 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +body: """ “being a dick” and “assertive” are weasel terms which do a hell a lot of lifting in your argument there. I have no idea where your line for behaviour to be deemed acceptable actually is.\n \n IMO, no, Linus wasn’t a dick. He called out a specific attitude and behaviour which Mauro is not supposed to show in his role as maintainer. What about Mauro being a dick because he went in all self-righteous like “this is a bug in pulseaudio”?\n \n If you were a restaurant manager, and a server told a customer that he’s not going to serve beer with steak but only wine because “drinking beer with steak is obviously wrong”, what would you do? Chew them out, of course. It’s way out of line. This isn’t Linus exploding over nothing just to bully someone, that’s a thing he has *never* done.\n \n If you want someone toxic to complain about in the FOSS space pick Lennart Poettering, the kind of guy who replies to “We’d like to be able to disable various features to keep things small” with “why do you hate disabled people they need accessibility”. More generally speaking: Focussing on tone never ends up well. You can be incredibly toxic in the most flowery of idioms. """ +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 11 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701959697 {#1619 : 2023-12-07 15:34:57.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@feddylemmy@lemmy.world" "@barsoap@lemm.ee" "@oatscoop@midwest.social" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1687 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1689 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1691 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1795 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1711 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1611 …} -id: 206639 -bodyTs: "'abl':178 'accept':33 'access':196 'actual':34 'argument':19 'assert':5 'attitud':48 'beer':103,111 'behaviour':29,50 'bug':81 'bulli':141 'call':44 'chew':121 'complain':157 'cours':125 'custom':95 'd':174 'deem':32 'dick':3,42,68 'disabl':180,192 'done':150 'drink':110 'end':204 'explod':136 'featur':182 'floweri':215 'focuss':200 'foss':161 'general':198 'go':100 'guy':169 'hate':191 'hell':12 'idea':24 'idiom':217 'imo':36 'incred':210 'isn':133 'keep':184 'kind':167 'lennart':164 'lift':16 'like':77,175 'line':27,131 'linus':38,135 'lot':14 'maintain':62 'manag':89 'mauro':52,65 'need':195 'never':149,203 'noth':138 'obvious':115 'peopl':193 'pick':163 'poetter':165 'pulseaudio':83 'repli':171 'restaur':88 'righteous':76 'role':60 'self':75 'self-right':74 'serv':102 'server':92 'show':57 'small':186 'someon':142,154 'space':162 'speak':199 'specif':47 'steak':105,113 'suppos':55 'term':8 'thing':146,185 'told':93 'tone':202 'toxic':155,211 'various':181 'want':153 'wasn':39 'way':128 'weasel':7 'well':206 'went':71 'wine':108 'would':118 'wrong':116" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7085819" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701959697 {#1702 : 2023-12-07 15:34:57.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206639 } 4 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1628 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1626 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +body: "Yep this is lemmy not reddit. Switcharoos with actual substance and everyone is way more humble." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 4 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701962246 {#1630 : 2023-12-07 16:17:26.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@feddylemmy@lemmy.world" "@Windex007@lemmy.world" "@interceder270@lemmy.world" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1599 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1625 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1617 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1725 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1722 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1726 …} -id: 206790 -bodyTs: "'actual':9 'everyon':12 'humbl':16 'lemmi':4 'reddit':6 'substanc':10 'switcharoo':7 'way':14 'yep':1" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7087266" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701962246 {#1629 : 2023-12-07 16:17:26.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206790 } 3 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1737 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1734 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +body: """ > and being abusive\n \n There’s it again. What, precisely, is it that makes Linus’ comment “abusive”? Is he gaslighting? Is he attacking Mauro over what he is? All I see is calling out, harshly, what Mauro *did*, behaviour that actually occurred and that is not acceptable and that Mauro *knows* is not acceptable. “We do not break userspace” is the rule #1 of Linux development, Mauro ignored it *and* was a dick about it.\n \n Or do you disagree with the *tone* of the whole thing. Things like “Shut up” instead of “This is not up for discussion”. If so, then please for the love of the gods please shut up. """ +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 6 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701968575 {#1736 : 2023-12-07 18:02:55.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@feddylemmy@lemmy.world" "@barsoap@lemm.ee" "@oatscoop@midwest.social" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1732 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1735 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1729 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1719 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1714 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1720 …} -id: 207200 -bodyTs: "'1':62 'abus':3,16 'accept':46,53 'actual':40 'attack':22 'behaviour':38 'break':57 'call':32 'comment':15 'develop':65 'dick':72 'disagre':78 'discuss':97 'gaslight':19 'god':107 'harsh':34 'ignor':67 'instead':90 'know':50 'like':87 'linus':14 'linux':64 'love':104 'make':13 'mauro':23,36,49,66 'occur':41 'pleas':101,108 'precis':9 'rule':61 'see':30 'shut':88,109 'thing':85,86 'tone':81 'userspac':58 'whole':84" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7090782" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701968575 {#1730 : 2023-12-07 18:02:55.0 +01:00 } +"title": 207200 } 2 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1740 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1707 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1559 …} +body: "I just wish for all of us to become more accustomed to working on ourselves instead of projecting the need to develop virtue on others. Linus actually did it, doesn’t mean that he was an asshole before. Brash, sure, crass, yes, but actual assholes don’t calm down as easily." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 0 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701981074 {#1717 : 2023-12-07 21:31:14.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@jose1324@lemmy.world" "@redhat" "@Synthead@lemmy.world" "@barsoap@lemm.ee" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2465 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2463 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2411 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2422 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2458 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2456 …} -id: 208075 -bodyTs: "'accustom':11 'actual':27,44 'asshol':37,45 'becom':9 'brash':39 'calm':48 'crass':41 'develop':22 'doesn':30 'easili':51 'instead':16 'linus':26 'mean':32 'need':20 'other':25 'project':18 'sure':40 'us':7 'virtu':23 'wish':3 'work':13 'yes':42" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7097925" +editedAt: DateTimeImmutable @1703376112 {#1739 : 2023-12-24 01:01:52.0 +01:00 } +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701981074 {#1741 : 2023-12-07 21:31:14.0 +01:00 } +"title": 208075 } 1 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#2454} 0 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#2372 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#2380 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#2386 …} +body: """ > " fuck you you fucking code fart"\n \n Linus didn’t call Mauro anything at all, much less a code fart. If anything, then an idiot (indirectly, by saying “I don’t want to hear that kind of garbage and idiocy from a kernel maintainer again”.\n \n How many of the people complaining about the mail being abusive or whatnot actually read it. 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Cut the “shut the fuck up”, the one or other “fuck” (but not all, some need to be there for emphasis), done. It’s the real personal shit, the “should be aborted retroactively” stuff, that he cut out. “Obvious garbage and idiocy” is a technical term, programmers apply it to their own work all the time. Compilers are more technical in their language but we know what they mean.\n \n And was this mail, seen in its total impact, a hardship? He went down hard, yes, and thousands upon thousands of Linux *users* breathed a sigh of relief, seeing that Mauro’s attitude towards userland doesn’t fly.\n \n The hardest-hitting sentence in that mail is actually “You have shown yourself to not be competent in this issue”. Absolutely devastating. Taking context into account it’s the equivalent of telling a professional cook that their ingredients suck, what they did with them sucks, and most of all that the gall which which they claimed that the customer is wrong about their dinner sucking is completely, and utterly, unprofessional.\n \n Of course that’s hard on Mauro. There’s no way to tell someone about such an epic cock-up without being hard. But not going that far, avoiding that hardship for some notion of civility, now that would be right-out cruel. 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---\n \n Sister communities:* [LemmyMemes](https://lemmy.world/c/memes@lemmy.world): Memes * [LemmyShitpost](https://lemmy.world/c/lemmyshitpost): Anything and everything goes. * [RISA](https://startrek.website/c/risa): Star Trek memes and shitposts\n \n Community rules1. Follow the site-wide rules and [code of conduct](https://join-lemmy.org/docs/code_of_conduct.html)2. Be civil 3. Post Linux-related content 4. No recent reposts Please report posts and comments that break these rules! """ +rules: null +subscriptionsCount: 1 +entryCount: 398 +entryCommentCount: 11895 +postCount: 1 +postCommentCount: 0 +isAdult: false +customCss: null +lastActive: DateTime @1726884280 {#3171 : 2024-09-21 04:04:40.0 +02:00 } +markedForDeletionAt: null +tags: null +moderators: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3175 …} +ownershipRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3177 …} +moderatorRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3179 …} +entries: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3181 …} +posts: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3183 …} +subscriptions: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3185 …} +bans: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3191 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3199 …} +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3212 …} +logs: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3222 …} +awards: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3204 …} +categories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3228 …} -id: 83 +apId: "linuxmemes@lemmy.world" +apProfileId: "https://lemmy.world/c/linuxmemes" +apPublicUrl: "https://lemmy.world/c/linuxmemes" +apFollowersUrl: "https://lemmy.world/c/linuxmemes/followers" +apInboxUrl: "https://lemmy.world/inbox" +apDomain: "lemmy.world" +apPreferredUsername: "linuxmemes" +apDiscoverable: true +apManuallyApprovesFollowers: null +privateKey: null +publicKey: null +apFetchedAt: DateTime @1719076635 {#3172 : 2024-06-22 19:17:15.0 +02:00 } +apDeletedAt: null +apTimeoutAt: null +visibility: "visible " +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1699095615 {#3173 : 2023-11-04 12:00:15.0 +01:00 } +__isInitialized__: true …2 } +image: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#2199 …} +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#2267 …} +slug: "Linus-does-not-fuck-around" +title: "Linus does not fuck around" +url: "https://lemmy.one/pictrs/image/f5614afd-25b9-4afe-a003-00eab7c7fb34.png" +body: "An oldie, but a goodie" +type: "image" +lang: "en" +isOc: false +hasEmbed: true +commentCount: 471 +favouriteCount: 1556 +score: 0 +isAdult: false +sticky: false +lastActive: DateTime @1720068489 {#2101 : 2024-07-04 06:48:09.0 +02:00 } +ip: null +adaAmount: 0 +tags: null +mentions: null +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2268 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2266 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2200 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2246 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2260 …} +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2142 …} +children: [ 7 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1614 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +body: """ Nah it’s completely fine. I vastly prefer an angry-sounding takedown over a passive aggressive takedown and a takedown Mauro definitely deserved because his code was, in fact, utter shite, *and that as a maintainer*. This isn’t “oh he’s a noob he doesn’t know how the kernel works” type of territory. Also note that this happened *after* he had been told what’s up in a neutral and factual way: Linus, even in his most management by perkele days, never made those things the first reply to anything. So Mauro got his chance to spot that he fucked up and correct his approach, he didn’t, therefore, it has to be said loudly. Simple as that.\n \n Also, no “you should be aborted retroactively” in sight anywhere. Yeah that stuff wasn’t necessary even though everyone with an ounce of social intelligence should readily spot that those insults were always so over the top as to be obviously humorous. """ +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 40 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701954766 {#1438 : 2023-12-07 14:12:46.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@feddylemmy@lemmy.world" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1651 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1652 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1650 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1671 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1568 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1560 …} -id: 206416 -bodyTs: "'abort':127 'aggress':17 'also':57,122 'alway':154 'angri':11 'angry-sound':10 'anyth':93 'anywher':131 'approach':108 'chanc':98 'code':27 'complet':4 'correct':106 'day':84 'definit':23 'deserv':24 'didn':110 'doesn':47 'even':77,138 'everyon':140 'fact':30 'factual':74 'fine':5 'first':90 'fuck':103 'got':96 'happen':61 'humor':163 'insult':152 'intellig':146 'isn':39 'kernel':52 'know':49 'linus':76 'loud':118 'made':86 'maintain':37 'manag':81 'mauro':22,95 'nah':1 'necessari':137 'neutral':72 'never':85 'noob':45 'note':58 'obvious':162 'oh':41 'ounc':143 'passiv':16 'perkel':83 'prefer':8 'readili':148 'repli':91 'retroact':128 'said':117 'shite':32 'sight':130 'simpl':119 'social':145 'sound':12 'spot':100,149 'stuff':134 'takedown':13,18,21 'territori':56 'therefor':112 'thing':88 'though':139 'told':66 'top':158 'type':54 'utter':31 'vast':7 'wasn':135 'way':75 'work':53 'yeah':132" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7083419" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701954766 {#1700 : 2023-12-07 14:12:46.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206416 } 6 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1562 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1566 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1559 …} +body: "This is a message to an @redhat address, as you might notice. Mauro gets paid to work on the kernel and is not a noob who doesn’t know better, either, he’s a maintainer who fucked up basic maintenance." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 15 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701954818 {#1572 : 2023-12-07 14:13:38.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@jose1324@lemmy.world" "@redhat" "@Synthead@lemmy.world" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1548 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1554 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1556 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1555 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1620 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1604 …} -id: 206422 -bodyTs: "'address':8 'basic':39 'better':30 'doesn':27 'either':31 'fuck':37 'get':14 'kernel':20 'know':29 'maintain':35 'mainten':40 'mauro':13 'messag':4 'might':11 'noob':25 'notic':12 'paid':15 'redhat':7 'work':17" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7083443" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701954818 {#1563 : 2023-12-07 14:13:38.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206422 } 5 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1701 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1683 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +body: """ “being a dick” and “assertive” are weasel terms which do a hell a lot of lifting in your argument there. I have no idea where your line for behaviour to be deemed acceptable actually is.\n \n IMO, no, Linus wasn’t a dick. He called out a specific attitude and behaviour which Mauro is not supposed to show in his role as maintainer. What about Mauro being a dick because he went in all self-righteous like “this is a bug in pulseaudio”?\n \n If you were a restaurant manager, and a server told a customer that he’s not going to serve beer with steak but only wine because “drinking beer with steak is obviously wrong”, what would you do? Chew them out, of course. It’s way out of line. This isn’t Linus exploding over nothing just to bully someone, that’s a thing he has *never* done.\n \n If you want someone toxic to complain about in the FOSS space pick Lennart Poettering, the kind of guy who replies to “We’d like to be able to disable various features to keep things small” with “why do you hate disabled people they need accessibility”. More generally speaking: Focussing on tone never ends up well. You can be incredibly toxic in the most flowery of idioms. """ +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 11 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701959697 {#1619 : 2023-12-07 15:34:57.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@feddylemmy@lemmy.world" "@barsoap@lemm.ee" "@oatscoop@midwest.social" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1687 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1689 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1691 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1795 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1711 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1611 …} -id: 206639 -bodyTs: "'abl':178 'accept':33 'access':196 'actual':34 'argument':19 'assert':5 'attitud':48 'beer':103,111 'behaviour':29,50 'bug':81 'bulli':141 'call':44 'chew':121 'complain':157 'cours':125 'custom':95 'd':174 'deem':32 'dick':3,42,68 'disabl':180,192 'done':150 'drink':110 'end':204 'explod':136 'featur':182 'floweri':215 'focuss':200 'foss':161 'general':198 'go':100 'guy':169 'hate':191 'hell':12 'idea':24 'idiom':217 'imo':36 'incred':210 'isn':133 'keep':184 'kind':167 'lennart':164 'lift':16 'like':77,175 'line':27,131 'linus':38,135 'lot':14 'maintain':62 'manag':89 'mauro':52,65 'need':195 'never':149,203 'noth':138 'obvious':115 'peopl':193 'pick':163 'poetter':165 'pulseaudio':83 'repli':171 'restaur':88 'righteous':76 'role':60 'self':75 'self-right':74 'serv':102 'server':92 'show':57 'small':186 'someon':142,154 'space':162 'speak':199 'specif':47 'steak':105,113 'suppos':55 'term':8 'thing':146,185 'told':93 'tone':202 'toxic':155,211 'various':181 'want':153 'wasn':39 'way':128 'weasel':7 'well':206 'went':71 'wine':108 'would':118 'wrong':116" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7085819" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701959697 {#1702 : 2023-12-07 15:34:57.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206639 } 4 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1628 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1626 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +body: "Yep this is lemmy not reddit. Switcharoos with actual substance and everyone is way more humble." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 4 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701962246 {#1630 : 2023-12-07 16:17:26.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@feddylemmy@lemmy.world" "@Windex007@lemmy.world" "@interceder270@lemmy.world" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1599 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1625 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1617 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1725 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1722 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1726 …} -id: 206790 -bodyTs: "'actual':9 'everyon':12 'humbl':16 'lemmi':4 'reddit':6 'substanc':10 'switcharoo':7 'way':14 'yep':1" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7087266" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701962246 {#1629 : 2023-12-07 16:17:26.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206790 } 3 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1737 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1734 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +body: """ > and being abusive\n \n There’s it again. What, precisely, is it that makes Linus’ comment “abusive”? Is he gaslighting? Is he attacking Mauro over what he is? All I see is calling out, harshly, what Mauro *did*, behaviour that actually occurred and that is not acceptable and that Mauro *knows* is not acceptable. “We do not break userspace” is the rule #1 of Linux development, Mauro ignored it *and* was a dick about it.\n \n Or do you disagree with the *tone* of the whole thing. Things like “Shut up” instead of “This is not up for discussion”. If so, then please for the love of the gods please shut up. """ +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 6 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701968575 {#1736 : 2023-12-07 18:02:55.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@feddylemmy@lemmy.world" "@barsoap@lemm.ee" "@oatscoop@midwest.social" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1732 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1735 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1729 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1719 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1714 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1720 …} -id: 207200 -bodyTs: "'1':62 'abus':3,16 'accept':46,53 'actual':40 'attack':22 'behaviour':38 'break':57 'call':32 'comment':15 'develop':65 'dick':72 'disagre':78 'discuss':97 'gaslight':19 'god':107 'harsh':34 'ignor':67 'instead':90 'know':50 'like':87 'linus':14 'linux':64 'love':104 'make':13 'mauro':23,36,49,66 'occur':41 'pleas':101,108 'precis':9 'rule':61 'see':30 'shut':88,109 'thing':85,86 'tone':81 'userspac':58 'whole':84" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7090782" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701968575 {#1730 : 2023-12-07 18:02:55.0 +01:00 } +"title": 207200 } 2 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1740 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1707 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1559 …} +body: "I just wish for all of us to become more accustomed to working on ourselves instead of projecting the need to develop virtue on others. Linus actually did it, doesn’t mean that he was an asshole before. Brash, sure, crass, yes, but actual assholes don’t calm down as easily." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 0 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701981074 {#1717 : 2023-12-07 21:31:14.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@jose1324@lemmy.world" "@redhat" "@Synthead@lemmy.world" "@barsoap@lemm.ee" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2465 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2463 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2411 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2422 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2458 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2456 …} -id: 208075 -bodyTs: "'accustom':11 'actual':27,44 'asshol':37,45 'becom':9 'brash':39 'calm':48 'crass':41 'develop':22 'doesn':30 'easili':51 'instead':16 'linus':26 'mean':32 'need':20 'other':25 'project':18 'sure':40 'us':7 'virtu':23 'wish':3 'work':13 'yes':42" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7097925" +editedAt: DateTimeImmutable @1703376112 {#1739 : 2023-12-24 01:01:52.0 +01:00 } +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701981074 {#1741 : 2023-12-07 21:31:14.0 +01:00 } +"title": 208075 } 1 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#2454} 0 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#2372 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#2380 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#2386 …} +body: """ > " fuck you you fucking code fart"\n \n Linus didn’t call Mauro anything at all, much less a code fart. If anything, then an idiot (indirectly, by saying “I don’t want to hear that kind of garbage and idiocy from a kernel maintainer again”.\n \n How many of the people complaining about the mail being abusive or whatnot actually read it. 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Cut the “shut the fuck up”, the one or other “fuck” (but not all, some need to be there for emphasis), done. It’s the real personal shit, the “should be aborted retroactively” stuff, that he cut out. “Obvious garbage and idiocy” is a technical term, programmers apply it to their own work all the time. Compilers are more technical in their language but we know what they mean.\n \n And was this mail, seen in its total impact, a hardship? He went down hard, yes, and thousands upon thousands of Linux *users* breathed a sigh of relief, seeing that Mauro’s attitude towards userland doesn’t fly.\n \n The hardest-hitting sentence in that mail is actually “You have shown yourself to not be competent in this issue”. Absolutely devastating. Taking context into account it’s the equivalent of telling a professional cook that their ingredients suck, what they did with them sucks, and most of all that the gall which which they claimed that the customer is wrong about their dinner sucking is completely, and utterly, unprofessional.\n \n Of course that’s hard on Mauro. There’s no way to tell someone about such an epic cock-up without being hard. But not going that far, avoiding that hardship for some notion of civility, now that would be right-out cruel. 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Follow the site-wide rules and [code of conduct](https://join-lemmy.org/docs/code_of_conduct.html)2. Be civil 3. Post Linux-related content 4. No recent reposts Please report posts and comments that break these rules! 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I vastly prefer an angry-sounding takedown over a passive aggressive takedown and a takedown Mauro definitely deserved because his code was, in fact, utter shite, *and that as a maintainer*. This isn’t “oh he’s a noob he doesn’t know how the kernel works” type of territory. Also note that this happened *after* he had been told what’s up in a neutral and factual way: Linus, even in his most management by perkele days, never made those things the first reply to anything. So Mauro got his chance to spot that he fucked up and correct his approach, he didn’t, therefore, it has to be said loudly. Simple as that.\n \n Also, no “you should be aborted retroactively” in sight anywhere. Yeah that stuff wasn’t necessary even though everyone with an ounce of social intelligence should readily spot that those insults were always so over the top as to be obviously humorous. 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Mauro gets paid to work on the kernel and is not a noob who doesn’t know better, either, he’s a maintainer who fucked up basic maintenance." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 15 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701954818 {#1572 : 2023-12-07 14:13:38.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@jose1324@lemmy.world" "@redhat" "@Synthead@lemmy.world" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1548 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1554 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1556 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1555 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1620 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1604 …} -id: 206422 -bodyTs: "'address':8 'basic':39 'better':30 'doesn':27 'either':31 'fuck':37 'get':14 'kernel':20 'know':29 'maintain':35 'mainten':40 'mauro':13 'messag':4 'might':11 'noob':25 'notic':12 'paid':15 'redhat':7 'work':17" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7083443" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701954818 {#1563 : 2023-12-07 14:13:38.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206422 } 5 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1701 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1683 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +body: """ “being a dick” and “assertive” are weasel terms which do a hell a lot of lifting in your argument there. I have no idea where your line for behaviour to be deemed acceptable actually is.\n \n IMO, no, Linus wasn’t a dick. He called out a specific attitude and behaviour which Mauro is not supposed to show in his role as maintainer. What about Mauro being a dick because he went in all self-righteous like “this is a bug in pulseaudio”?\n \n If you were a restaurant manager, and a server told a customer that he’s not going to serve beer with steak but only wine because “drinking beer with steak is obviously wrong”, what would you do? Chew them out, of course. It’s way out of line. This isn’t Linus exploding over nothing just to bully someone, that’s a thing he has *never* done.\n \n If you want someone toxic to complain about in the FOSS space pick Lennart Poettering, the kind of guy who replies to “We’d like to be able to disable various features to keep things small” with “why do you hate disabled people they need accessibility”. More generally speaking: Focussing on tone never ends up well. You can be incredibly toxic in the most flowery of idioms. 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Switcharoos with actual substance and everyone is way more humble." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 4 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701962246 {#1630 : 2023-12-07 16:17:26.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@feddylemmy@lemmy.world" "@Windex007@lemmy.world" "@interceder270@lemmy.world" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1599 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1625 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1617 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1725 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1722 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1726 …} -id: 206790 -bodyTs: "'actual':9 'everyon':12 'humbl':16 'lemmi':4 'reddit':6 'substanc':10 'switcharoo':7 'way':14 'yep':1" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7087266" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701962246 {#1629 : 2023-12-07 16:17:26.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206790 } 3 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1737 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1734 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +body: """ > and being abusive\n \n There’s it again. What, precisely, is it that makes Linus’ comment “abusive”? Is he gaslighting? Is he attacking Mauro over what he is? All I see is calling out, harshly, what Mauro *did*, behaviour that actually occurred and that is not acceptable and that Mauro *knows* is not acceptable. “We do not break userspace” is the rule #1 of Linux development, Mauro ignored it *and* was a dick about it.\n \n Or do you disagree with the *tone* of the whole thing. Things like “Shut up” instead of “This is not up for discussion”. If so, then please for the love of the gods please shut up. 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Linus actually did it, doesn’t mean that he was an asshole before. Brash, sure, crass, yes, but actual assholes don’t calm down as easily." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 0 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701981074 {#1717 : 2023-12-07 21:31:14.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@jose1324@lemmy.world" "@redhat" "@Synthead@lemmy.world" "@barsoap@lemm.ee" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2465 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2463 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2411 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2422 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2458 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2456 …} -id: 208075 -bodyTs: "'accustom':11 'actual':27,44 'asshol':37,45 'becom':9 'brash':39 'calm':48 'crass':41 'develop':22 'doesn':30 'easili':51 'instead':16 'linus':26 'mean':32 'need':20 'other':25 'project':18 'sure':40 'us':7 'virtu':23 'wish':3 'work':13 'yes':42" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7097925" +editedAt: DateTimeImmutable @1703376112 {#1739 : 2023-12-24 01:01:52.0 +01:00 } +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701981074 {#1741 : 2023-12-07 21:31:14.0 +01:00 } +"title": 208075 } 1 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#2454 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#2455 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1559 …} +body: """ Current-day Linus wouldn’t react much differently. Cut the “shut the fuck up”, the one or other “fuck” (but not all, some need to be there for emphasis), done. It’s the real personal shit, the “should be aborted retroactively” stuff, that he cut out. “Obvious garbage and idiocy” is a technical term, programmers apply it to their own work all the time. Compilers are more technical in their language but we know what they mean.\n \n And was this mail, seen in its total impact, a hardship? He went down hard, yes, and thousands upon thousands of Linux *users* breathed a sigh of relief, seeing that Mauro’s attitude towards userland doesn’t fly.\n \n The hardest-hitting sentence in that mail is actually “You have shown yourself to not be competent in this issue”. Absolutely devastating. Taking context into account it’s the equivalent of telling a professional cook that their ingredients suck, what they did with them sucks, and most of all that the gall which which they claimed that the customer is wrong about their dinner sucking is completely, and utterly, unprofessional.\n \n Of course that’s hard on Mauro. There’s no way to tell someone about such an epic cock-up without being hard. But not going that far, avoiding that hardship for some notion of civility, now that would be right-out cruel. 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If anything, then an idiot (indirectly, by saying “I don’t want to hear that kind of garbage and idiocy from a kernel maintainer again”.\n \n How many of the people complaining about the mail being abusive or whatnot actually read it. 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""" +rules: null +subscriptionsCount: 1 +entryCount: 398 +entryCommentCount: 11895 +postCount: 1 +postCommentCount: 0 +isAdult: false +customCss: null +lastActive: DateTime @1726884280 {#3171 : 2024-09-21 04:04:40.0 +02:00 } +markedForDeletionAt: null +tags: null +moderators: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3175 …} +ownershipRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3177 …} +moderatorRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3179 …} +entries: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3181 …} +posts: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3183 …} +subscriptions: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3185 …} +bans: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3191 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3199 …} +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3212 …} +logs: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3222 …} +awards: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3204 …} +categories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3228 …} -id: 83 +apId: "linuxmemes@lemmy.world" +apProfileId: "https://lemmy.world/c/linuxmemes" +apPublicUrl: "https://lemmy.world/c/linuxmemes" +apFollowersUrl: "https://lemmy.world/c/linuxmemes/followers" +apInboxUrl: "https://lemmy.world/inbox" +apDomain: "lemmy.world" +apPreferredUsername: "linuxmemes" +apDiscoverable: true +apManuallyApprovesFollowers: null +privateKey: null +publicKey: null +apFetchedAt: DateTime @1719076635 {#3172 : 2024-06-22 19:17:15.0 +02:00 } +apDeletedAt: null +apTimeoutAt: null +visibility: "visible " +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1699095615 {#3173 : 2023-11-04 12:00:15.0 +01:00 } +__isInitialized__: true …2 } +image: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#2199 …} +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#2267 …} +slug: "Linus-does-not-fuck-around" +title: "Linus does not fuck around" +url: "https://lemmy.one/pictrs/image/f5614afd-25b9-4afe-a003-00eab7c7fb34.png" +body: "An oldie, but a goodie" +type: "image" +lang: "en" +isOc: false +hasEmbed: true +commentCount: 471 +favouriteCount: 1556 +score: 0 +isAdult: false +sticky: false +lastActive: DateTime @1720068489 {#2101 : 2024-07-04 06:48:09.0 +02:00 } +ip: null +adaAmount: 0 +tags: null +mentions: null +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2268 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2266 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2200 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2246 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2260 …} +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2142 …} +children: [ 7 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1614 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +body: """ Nah it’s completely fine. I vastly prefer an angry-sounding takedown over a passive aggressive takedown and a takedown Mauro definitely deserved because his code was, in fact, utter shite, *and that as a maintainer*. This isn’t “oh he’s a noob he doesn’t know how the kernel works” type of territory. Also note that this happened *after* he had been told what’s up in a neutral and factual way: Linus, even in his most management by perkele days, never made those things the first reply to anything. So Mauro got his chance to spot that he fucked up and correct his approach, he didn’t, therefore, it has to be said loudly. Simple as that.\n \n Also, no “you should be aborted retroactively” in sight anywhere. Yeah that stuff wasn’t necessary even though everyone with an ounce of social intelligence should readily spot that those insults were always so over the top as to be obviously humorous. """ +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 40 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701954766 {#1438 : 2023-12-07 14:12:46.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@feddylemmy@lemmy.world" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1651 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1652 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1650 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1671 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1568 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1560 …} -id: 206416 -bodyTs: "'abort':127 'aggress':17 'also':57,122 'alway':154 'angri':11 'angry-sound':10 'anyth':93 'anywher':131 'approach':108 'chanc':98 'code':27 'complet':4 'correct':106 'day':84 'definit':23 'deserv':24 'didn':110 'doesn':47 'even':77,138 'everyon':140 'fact':30 'factual':74 'fine':5 'first':90 'fuck':103 'got':96 'happen':61 'humor':163 'insult':152 'intellig':146 'isn':39 'kernel':52 'know':49 'linus':76 'loud':118 'made':86 'maintain':37 'manag':81 'mauro':22,95 'nah':1 'necessari':137 'neutral':72 'never':85 'noob':45 'note':58 'obvious':162 'oh':41 'ounc':143 'passiv':16 'perkel':83 'prefer':8 'readili':148 'repli':91 'retroact':128 'said':117 'shite':32 'sight':130 'simpl':119 'social':145 'sound':12 'spot':100,149 'stuff':134 'takedown':13,18,21 'territori':56 'therefor':112 'thing':88 'though':139 'told':66 'top':158 'type':54 'utter':31 'vast':7 'wasn':135 'way':75 'work':53 'yeah':132" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7083419" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701954766 {#1700 : 2023-12-07 14:12:46.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206416 } 6 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1562 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1566 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1559 …} +body: "This is a message to an @redhat address, as you might notice. Mauro gets paid to work on the kernel and is not a noob who doesn’t know better, either, he’s a maintainer who fucked up basic maintenance." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 15 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701954818 {#1572 : 2023-12-07 14:13:38.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@jose1324@lemmy.world" "@redhat" "@Synthead@lemmy.world" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1548 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1554 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1556 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1555 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1620 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1604 …} -id: 206422 -bodyTs: "'address':8 'basic':39 'better':30 'doesn':27 'either':31 'fuck':37 'get':14 'kernel':20 'know':29 'maintain':35 'mainten':40 'mauro':13 'messag':4 'might':11 'noob':25 'notic':12 'paid':15 'redhat':7 'work':17" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7083443" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701954818 {#1563 : 2023-12-07 14:13:38.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206422 } 5 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1701 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1683 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +body: """ “being a dick” and “assertive” are weasel terms which do a hell a lot of lifting in your argument there. I have no idea where your line for behaviour to be deemed acceptable actually is.\n \n IMO, no, Linus wasn’t a dick. He called out a specific attitude and behaviour which Mauro is not supposed to show in his role as maintainer. What about Mauro being a dick because he went in all self-righteous like “this is a bug in pulseaudio”?\n \n If you were a restaurant manager, and a server told a customer that he’s not going to serve beer with steak but only wine because “drinking beer with steak is obviously wrong”, what would you do? Chew them out, of course. It’s way out of line. This isn’t Linus exploding over nothing just to bully someone, that’s a thing he has *never* done.\n \n If you want someone toxic to complain about in the FOSS space pick Lennart Poettering, the kind of guy who replies to “We’d like to be able to disable various features to keep things small” with “why do you hate disabled people they need accessibility”. More generally speaking: Focussing on tone never ends up well. You can be incredibly toxic in the most flowery of idioms. """ +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 11 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701959697 {#1619 : 2023-12-07 15:34:57.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@feddylemmy@lemmy.world" "@barsoap@lemm.ee" "@oatscoop@midwest.social" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1687 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1689 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1691 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1795 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1711 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1611 …} -id: 206639 -bodyTs: "'abl':178 'accept':33 'access':196 'actual':34 'argument':19 'assert':5 'attitud':48 'beer':103,111 'behaviour':29,50 'bug':81 'bulli':141 'call':44 'chew':121 'complain':157 'cours':125 'custom':95 'd':174 'deem':32 'dick':3,42,68 'disabl':180,192 'done':150 'drink':110 'end':204 'explod':136 'featur':182 'floweri':215 'focuss':200 'foss':161 'general':198 'go':100 'guy':169 'hate':191 'hell':12 'idea':24 'idiom':217 'imo':36 'incred':210 'isn':133 'keep':184 'kind':167 'lennart':164 'lift':16 'like':77,175 'line':27,131 'linus':38,135 'lot':14 'maintain':62 'manag':89 'mauro':52,65 'need':195 'never':149,203 'noth':138 'obvious':115 'peopl':193 'pick':163 'poetter':165 'pulseaudio':83 'repli':171 'restaur':88 'righteous':76 'role':60 'self':75 'self-right':74 'serv':102 'server':92 'show':57 'small':186 'someon':142,154 'space':162 'speak':199 'specif':47 'steak':105,113 'suppos':55 'term':8 'thing':146,185 'told':93 'tone':202 'toxic':155,211 'various':181 'want':153 'wasn':39 'way':128 'weasel':7 'well':206 'went':71 'wine':108 'would':118 'wrong':116" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7085819" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701959697 {#1702 : 2023-12-07 15:34:57.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206639 } 4 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1628 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1626 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +body: "Yep this is lemmy not reddit. Switcharoos with actual substance and everyone is way more humble." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 4 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701962246 {#1630 : 2023-12-07 16:17:26.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@feddylemmy@lemmy.world" "@Windex007@lemmy.world" "@interceder270@lemmy.world" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1599 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1625 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1617 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1725 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1722 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1726 …} -id: 206790 -bodyTs: "'actual':9 'everyon':12 'humbl':16 'lemmi':4 'reddit':6 'substanc':10 'switcharoo':7 'way':14 'yep':1" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7087266" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701962246 {#1629 : 2023-12-07 16:17:26.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206790 } 3 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1737 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1734 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +body: """ > and being abusive\n \n There’s it again. What, precisely, is it that makes Linus’ comment “abusive”? Is he gaslighting? Is he attacking Mauro over what he is? All I see is calling out, harshly, what Mauro *did*, behaviour that actually occurred and that is not acceptable and that Mauro *knows* is not acceptable. “We do not break userspace” is the rule #1 of Linux development, Mauro ignored it *and* was a dick about it.\n \n Or do you disagree with the *tone* of the whole thing. Things like “Shut up” instead of “This is not up for discussion”. If so, then please for the love of the gods please shut up. """ +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 6 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701968575 {#1736 : 2023-12-07 18:02:55.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@feddylemmy@lemmy.world" "@barsoap@lemm.ee" "@oatscoop@midwest.social" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1732 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1735 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1729 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1719 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1714 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1720 …} -id: 207200 -bodyTs: "'1':62 'abus':3,16 'accept':46,53 'actual':40 'attack':22 'behaviour':38 'break':57 'call':32 'comment':15 'develop':65 'dick':72 'disagre':78 'discuss':97 'gaslight':19 'god':107 'harsh':34 'ignor':67 'instead':90 'know':50 'like':87 'linus':14 'linux':64 'love':104 'make':13 'mauro':23,36,49,66 'occur':41 'pleas':101,108 'precis':9 'rule':61 'see':30 'shut':88,109 'thing':85,86 'tone':81 'userspac':58 'whole':84" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7090782" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701968575 {#1730 : 2023-12-07 18:02:55.0 +01:00 } +"title": 207200 } 2 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1740 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1707 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1559 …} +body: "I just wish for all of us to become more accustomed to working on ourselves instead of projecting the need to develop virtue on others. Linus actually did it, doesn’t mean that he was an asshole before. Brash, sure, crass, yes, but actual assholes don’t calm down as easily." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 0 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701981074 {#1717 : 2023-12-07 21:31:14.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@jose1324@lemmy.world" "@redhat" "@Synthead@lemmy.world" "@barsoap@lemm.ee" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2465 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2463 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2411 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2422 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2458 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2456 …} -id: 208075 -bodyTs: "'accustom':11 'actual':27,44 'asshol':37,45 'becom':9 'brash':39 'calm':48 'crass':41 'develop':22 'doesn':30 'easili':51 'instead':16 'linus':26 'mean':32 'need':20 'other':25 'project':18 'sure':40 'us':7 'virtu':23 'wish':3 'work':13 'yes':42" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7097925" +editedAt: DateTimeImmutable @1703376112 {#1739 : 2023-12-24 01:01:52.0 +01:00 } +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701981074 {#1741 : 2023-12-07 21:31:14.0 +01:00 } +"title": 208075 } 1 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#2454 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#2455 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1559 …} +body: """ Current-day Linus wouldn’t react much differently. Cut the “shut the fuck up”, the one or other “fuck” (but not all, some need to be there for emphasis), done. It’s the real personal shit, the “should be aborted retroactively” stuff, that he cut out. “Obvious garbage and idiocy” is a technical term, programmers apply it to their own work all the time. Compilers are more technical in their language but we know what they mean.\n \n And was this mail, seen in its total impact, a hardship? He went down hard, yes, and thousands upon thousands of Linux *users* breathed a sigh of relief, seeing that Mauro’s attitude towards userland doesn’t fly.\n \n The hardest-hitting sentence in that mail is actually “You have shown yourself to not be competent in this issue”. Absolutely devastating. Taking context into account it’s the equivalent of telling a professional cook that their ingredients suck, what they did with them sucks, and most of all that the gall which which they claimed that the customer is wrong about their dinner sucking is completely, and utterly, unprofessional.\n \n Of course that’s hard on Mauro. There’s no way to tell someone about such an epic cock-up without being hard. But not going that far, avoiding that hardship for some notion of civility, now that would be right-out cruel. 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If anything, then an idiot (indirectly, by saying “I don’t want to hear that kind of garbage and idiocy from a kernel maintainer again”.\n \n How many of the people complaining about the mail being abusive or whatnot actually read it. 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date | App\Twig\Components\DateComponent | 12.0 MiB | 0.17 ms | |
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Input props | [ "date" => DateTimeImmutable @1701986185 {#2364 : 2023-12-07 22:56:25.0 +01:00 } ] |
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Component | App\Twig\Components\DateComponent {#8059 +date: DateTimeImmutable @1701986185 {#2364 : 2023-12-07 22:56:25.0 +01:00 } } |
date_edited | App\Twig\Components\DateEditedComponent | 12.0 MiB | 0.09 ms | |
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Input props | [ "createdAt" => DateTimeImmutable @1701986185 {#2364 : 2023-12-07 22:56:25.0 +01:00 } "editedAt" => null ] |
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Component | App\Twig\Components\DateEditedComponent {#8113 +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701986185 {#2364 : 2023-12-07 22:56:25.0 +01:00 } +editedAt: null } |
user_avatar | App\Twig\Components\UserAvatarComponent | 12.0 MiB | 0.15 ms | |
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vote | App\Twig\Components\VoteComponent | 12.0 MiB | 0.36 ms | |
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Follow the site-wide rules and [code of conduct](https://join-lemmy.org/docs/code_of_conduct.html)2. Be civil 3. Post Linux-related content 4. No recent reposts Please report posts and comments that break these rules! 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I vastly prefer an angry-sounding takedown over a passive aggressive takedown and a takedown Mauro definitely deserved because his code was, in fact, utter shite, *and that as a maintainer*. This isn’t “oh he’s a noob he doesn’t know how the kernel works” type of territory. Also note that this happened *after* he had been told what’s up in a neutral and factual way: Linus, even in his most management by perkele days, never made those things the first reply to anything. So Mauro got his chance to spot that he fucked up and correct his approach, he didn’t, therefore, it has to be said loudly. Simple as that.\n \n Also, no “you should be aborted retroactively” in sight anywhere. Yeah that stuff wasn’t necessary even though everyone with an ounce of social intelligence should readily spot that those insults were always so over the top as to be obviously humorous. 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Mauro gets paid to work on the kernel and is not a noob who doesn’t know better, either, he’s a maintainer who fucked up basic maintenance." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 15 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701954818 {#1572 : 2023-12-07 14:13:38.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@jose1324@lemmy.world" "@redhat" "@Synthead@lemmy.world" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1548 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1554 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1556 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1555 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1620 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1604 …} -id: 206422 -bodyTs: "'address':8 'basic':39 'better':30 'doesn':27 'either':31 'fuck':37 'get':14 'kernel':20 'know':29 'maintain':35 'mainten':40 'mauro':13 'messag':4 'might':11 'noob':25 'notic':12 'paid':15 'redhat':7 'work':17" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7083443" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701954818 {#1563 : 2023-12-07 14:13:38.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206422 } 5 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1701 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1683 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +body: """ “being a dick” and “assertive” are weasel terms which do a hell a lot of lifting in your argument there. I have no idea where your line for behaviour to be deemed acceptable actually is.\n \n IMO, no, Linus wasn’t a dick. He called out a specific attitude and behaviour which Mauro is not supposed to show in his role as maintainer. What about Mauro being a dick because he went in all self-righteous like “this is a bug in pulseaudio”?\n \n If you were a restaurant manager, and a server told a customer that he’s not going to serve beer with steak but only wine because “drinking beer with steak is obviously wrong”, what would you do? Chew them out, of course. It’s way out of line. This isn’t Linus exploding over nothing just to bully someone, that’s a thing he has *never* done.\n \n If you want someone toxic to complain about in the FOSS space pick Lennart Poettering, the kind of guy who replies to “We’d like to be able to disable various features to keep things small” with “why do you hate disabled people they need accessibility”. More generally speaking: Focussing on tone never ends up well. You can be incredibly toxic in the most flowery of idioms. 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Switcharoos with actual substance and everyone is way more humble." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 4 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701962246 {#1630 : 2023-12-07 16:17:26.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@feddylemmy@lemmy.world" "@Windex007@lemmy.world" "@interceder270@lemmy.world" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1599 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1625 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1617 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1725 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1722 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1726 …} -id: 206790 -bodyTs: "'actual':9 'everyon':12 'humbl':16 'lemmi':4 'reddit':6 'substanc':10 'switcharoo':7 'way':14 'yep':1" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7087266" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701962246 {#1629 : 2023-12-07 16:17:26.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206790 } 3 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1737 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1734 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +body: """ > and being abusive\n \n There’s it again. What, precisely, is it that makes Linus’ comment “abusive”? Is he gaslighting? Is he attacking Mauro over what he is? All I see is calling out, harshly, what Mauro *did*, behaviour that actually occurred and that is not acceptable and that Mauro *knows* is not acceptable. “We do not break userspace” is the rule #1 of Linux development, Mauro ignored it *and* was a dick about it.\n \n Or do you disagree with the *tone* of the whole thing. Things like “Shut up” instead of “This is not up for discussion”. If so, then please for the love of the gods please shut up. 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Linus actually did it, doesn’t mean that he was an asshole before. Brash, sure, crass, yes, but actual assholes don’t calm down as easily." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 0 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701981074 {#1717 : 2023-12-07 21:31:14.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@jose1324@lemmy.world" "@redhat" "@Synthead@lemmy.world" "@barsoap@lemm.ee" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2465 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2463 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2411 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2422 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2458 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2456 …} -id: 208075 -bodyTs: "'accustom':11 'actual':27,44 'asshol':37,45 'becom':9 'brash':39 'calm':48 'crass':41 'develop':22 'doesn':30 'easili':51 'instead':16 'linus':26 'mean':32 'need':20 'other':25 'project':18 'sure':40 'us':7 'virtu':23 'wish':3 'work':13 'yes':42" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7097925" +editedAt: DateTimeImmutable @1703376112 {#1739 : 2023-12-24 01:01:52.0 +01:00 } +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701981074 {#1741 : 2023-12-07 21:31:14.0 +01:00 } +"title": 208075 } 1 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#2454 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#2455 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1559 …} +body: """ Current-day Linus wouldn’t react much differently. Cut the “shut the fuck up”, the one or other “fuck” (but not all, some need to be there for emphasis), done. It’s the real personal shit, the “should be aborted retroactively” stuff, that he cut out. “Obvious garbage and idiocy” is a technical term, programmers apply it to their own work all the time. Compilers are more technical in their language but we know what they mean.\n \n And was this mail, seen in its total impact, a hardship? He went down hard, yes, and thousands upon thousands of Linux *users* breathed a sigh of relief, seeing that Mauro’s attitude towards userland doesn’t fly.\n \n The hardest-hitting sentence in that mail is actually “You have shown yourself to not be competent in this issue”. Absolutely devastating. Taking context into account it’s the equivalent of telling a professional cook that their ingredients suck, what they did with them sucks, and most of all that the gall which which they claimed that the customer is wrong about their dinner sucking is completely, and utterly, unprofessional.\n \n Of course that’s hard on Mauro. There’s no way to tell someone about such an epic cock-up without being hard. But not going that far, avoiding that hardship for some notion of civility, now that would be right-out cruel. 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If anything, then an idiot (indirectly, by saying “I don’t want to hear that kind of garbage and idiocy from a kernel maintainer again”.\n \n How many of the people complaining about the mail being abusive or whatnot actually read it. 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---\n \n Sister communities:* [LemmyMemes](https://lemmy.world/c/memes@lemmy.world): Memes * [LemmyShitpost](https://lemmy.world/c/lemmyshitpost): Anything and everything goes. * [RISA](https://startrek.website/c/risa): Star Trek memes and shitposts\n \n Community rules1. Follow the site-wide rules and [code of conduct](https://join-lemmy.org/docs/code_of_conduct.html)2. Be civil 3. Post Linux-related content 4. No recent reposts Please report posts and comments that break these rules! """ +rules: null +subscriptionsCount: 1 +entryCount: 398 +entryCommentCount: 11895 +postCount: 1 +postCommentCount: 0 +isAdult: false +customCss: null +lastActive: DateTime @1726884280 {#3171 : 2024-09-21 04:04:40.0 +02:00 } +markedForDeletionAt: null +tags: null +moderators: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3175 …} +ownershipRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3177 …} +moderatorRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3179 …} +entries: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3181 …} +posts: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3183 …} +subscriptions: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3185 …} +bans: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3191 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3199 …} +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3212 …} +logs: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3222 …} +awards: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3204 …} +categories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3228 …} -id: 83 +apId: "linuxmemes@lemmy.world" +apProfileId: "https://lemmy.world/c/linuxmemes" +apPublicUrl: "https://lemmy.world/c/linuxmemes" +apFollowersUrl: "https://lemmy.world/c/linuxmemes/followers" +apInboxUrl: "https://lemmy.world/inbox" +apDomain: "lemmy.world" +apPreferredUsername: "linuxmemes" +apDiscoverable: true +apManuallyApprovesFollowers: null +privateKey: null +publicKey: null +apFetchedAt: DateTime @1719076635 {#3172 : 2024-06-22 19:17:15.0 +02:00 } +apDeletedAt: null +apTimeoutAt: null +visibility: "visible " +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1699095615 {#3173 : 2023-11-04 12:00:15.0 +01:00 } +__isInitialized__: true …2 } +image: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#2199 …} +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#2267 …} +slug: "Linus-does-not-fuck-around" +title: "Linus does not fuck around" +url: "https://lemmy.one/pictrs/image/f5614afd-25b9-4afe-a003-00eab7c7fb34.png" +body: "An oldie, but a goodie" +type: "image" +lang: "en" +isOc: false +hasEmbed: true +commentCount: 471 +favouriteCount: 1556 +score: 0 +isAdult: false +sticky: false +lastActive: DateTime @1720068489 {#2101 : 2024-07-04 06:48:09.0 +02:00 } +ip: null +adaAmount: 0 +tags: null +mentions: null +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2268 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2266 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2200 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2246 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2260 …} +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2142 …} +children: [ 7 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1614 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +body: """ Nah it’s completely fine. I vastly prefer an angry-sounding takedown over a passive aggressive takedown and a takedown Mauro definitely deserved because his code was, in fact, utter shite, *and that as a maintainer*. This isn’t “oh he’s a noob he doesn’t know how the kernel works” type of territory. Also note that this happened *after* he had been told what’s up in a neutral and factual way: Linus, even in his most management by perkele days, never made those things the first reply to anything. So Mauro got his chance to spot that he fucked up and correct his approach, he didn’t, therefore, it has to be said loudly. Simple as that.\n \n Also, no “you should be aborted retroactively” in sight anywhere. Yeah that stuff wasn’t necessary even though everyone with an ounce of social intelligence should readily spot that those insults were always so over the top as to be obviously humorous. """ +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 40 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701954766 {#1438 : 2023-12-07 14:12:46.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@feddylemmy@lemmy.world" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1651 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1652 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1650 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1671 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1568 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1560 …} -id: 206416 -bodyTs: "'abort':127 'aggress':17 'also':57,122 'alway':154 'angri':11 'angry-sound':10 'anyth':93 'anywher':131 'approach':108 'chanc':98 'code':27 'complet':4 'correct':106 'day':84 'definit':23 'deserv':24 'didn':110 'doesn':47 'even':77,138 'everyon':140 'fact':30 'factual':74 'fine':5 'first':90 'fuck':103 'got':96 'happen':61 'humor':163 'insult':152 'intellig':146 'isn':39 'kernel':52 'know':49 'linus':76 'loud':118 'made':86 'maintain':37 'manag':81 'mauro':22,95 'nah':1 'necessari':137 'neutral':72 'never':85 'noob':45 'note':58 'obvious':162 'oh':41 'ounc':143 'passiv':16 'perkel':83 'prefer':8 'readili':148 'repli':91 'retroact':128 'said':117 'shite':32 'sight':130 'simpl':119 'social':145 'sound':12 'spot':100,149 'stuff':134 'takedown':13,18,21 'territori':56 'therefor':112 'thing':88 'though':139 'told':66 'top':158 'type':54 'utter':31 'vast':7 'wasn':135 'way':75 'work':53 'yeah':132" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7083419" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701954766 {#1700 : 2023-12-07 14:12:46.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206416 } 6 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1562 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1566 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1559 …} +body: "This is a message to an @redhat address, as you might notice. Mauro gets paid to work on the kernel and is not a noob who doesn’t know better, either, he’s a maintainer who fucked up basic maintenance." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 15 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701954818 {#1572 : 2023-12-07 14:13:38.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@jose1324@lemmy.world" "@redhat" "@Synthead@lemmy.world" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1548 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1554 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1556 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1555 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1620 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1604 …} -id: 206422 -bodyTs: "'address':8 'basic':39 'better':30 'doesn':27 'either':31 'fuck':37 'get':14 'kernel':20 'know':29 'maintain':35 'mainten':40 'mauro':13 'messag':4 'might':11 'noob':25 'notic':12 'paid':15 'redhat':7 'work':17" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7083443" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701954818 {#1563 : 2023-12-07 14:13:38.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206422 } 5 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1701 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1683 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +body: """ “being a dick” and “assertive” are weasel terms which do a hell a lot of lifting in your argument there. I have no idea where your line for behaviour to be deemed acceptable actually is.\n \n IMO, no, Linus wasn’t a dick. He called out a specific attitude and behaviour which Mauro is not supposed to show in his role as maintainer. What about Mauro being a dick because he went in all self-righteous like “this is a bug in pulseaudio”?\n \n If you were a restaurant manager, and a server told a customer that he’s not going to serve beer with steak but only wine because “drinking beer with steak is obviously wrong”, what would you do? Chew them out, of course. It’s way out of line. This isn’t Linus exploding over nothing just to bully someone, that’s a thing he has *never* done.\n \n If you want someone toxic to complain about in the FOSS space pick Lennart Poettering, the kind of guy who replies to “We’d like to be able to disable various features to keep things small” with “why do you hate disabled people they need accessibility”. More generally speaking: Focussing on tone never ends up well. You can be incredibly toxic in the most flowery of idioms. """ +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 11 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701959697 {#1619 : 2023-12-07 15:34:57.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@feddylemmy@lemmy.world" "@barsoap@lemm.ee" "@oatscoop@midwest.social" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1687 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1689 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1691 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1795 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1711 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1611 …} -id: 206639 -bodyTs: "'abl':178 'accept':33 'access':196 'actual':34 'argument':19 'assert':5 'attitud':48 'beer':103,111 'behaviour':29,50 'bug':81 'bulli':141 'call':44 'chew':121 'complain':157 'cours':125 'custom':95 'd':174 'deem':32 'dick':3,42,68 'disabl':180,192 'done':150 'drink':110 'end':204 'explod':136 'featur':182 'floweri':215 'focuss':200 'foss':161 'general':198 'go':100 'guy':169 'hate':191 'hell':12 'idea':24 'idiom':217 'imo':36 'incred':210 'isn':133 'keep':184 'kind':167 'lennart':164 'lift':16 'like':77,175 'line':27,131 'linus':38,135 'lot':14 'maintain':62 'manag':89 'mauro':52,65 'need':195 'never':149,203 'noth':138 'obvious':115 'peopl':193 'pick':163 'poetter':165 'pulseaudio':83 'repli':171 'restaur':88 'righteous':76 'role':60 'self':75 'self-right':74 'serv':102 'server':92 'show':57 'small':186 'someon':142,154 'space':162 'speak':199 'specif':47 'steak':105,113 'suppos':55 'term':8 'thing':146,185 'told':93 'tone':202 'toxic':155,211 'various':181 'want':153 'wasn':39 'way':128 'weasel':7 'well':206 'went':71 'wine':108 'would':118 'wrong':116" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7085819" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701959697 {#1702 : 2023-12-07 15:34:57.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206639 } 4 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1628 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1626 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +body: "Yep this is lemmy not reddit. Switcharoos with actual substance and everyone is way more humble." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 4 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701962246 {#1630 : 2023-12-07 16:17:26.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@feddylemmy@lemmy.world" "@Windex007@lemmy.world" "@interceder270@lemmy.world" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1599 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1625 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1617 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1725 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1722 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1726 …} -id: 206790 -bodyTs: "'actual':9 'everyon':12 'humbl':16 'lemmi':4 'reddit':6 'substanc':10 'switcharoo':7 'way':14 'yep':1" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7087266" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701962246 {#1629 : 2023-12-07 16:17:26.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206790 } 3 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1737 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1734 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +body: """ > and being abusive\n \n There’s it again. What, precisely, is it that makes Linus’ comment “abusive”? Is he gaslighting? Is he attacking Mauro over what he is? All I see is calling out, harshly, what Mauro *did*, behaviour that actually occurred and that is not acceptable and that Mauro *knows* is not acceptable. “We do not break userspace” is the rule #1 of Linux development, Mauro ignored it *and* was a dick about it.\n \n Or do you disagree with the *tone* of the whole thing. Things like “Shut up” instead of “This is not up for discussion”. If so, then please for the love of the gods please shut up. """ +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 6 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701968575 {#1736 : 2023-12-07 18:02:55.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@feddylemmy@lemmy.world" "@barsoap@lemm.ee" "@oatscoop@midwest.social" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1732 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1735 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1729 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1719 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1714 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1720 …} -id: 207200 -bodyTs: "'1':62 'abus':3,16 'accept':46,53 'actual':40 'attack':22 'behaviour':38 'break':57 'call':32 'comment':15 'develop':65 'dick':72 'disagre':78 'discuss':97 'gaslight':19 'god':107 'harsh':34 'ignor':67 'instead':90 'know':50 'like':87 'linus':14 'linux':64 'love':104 'make':13 'mauro':23,36,49,66 'occur':41 'pleas':101,108 'precis':9 'rule':61 'see':30 'shut':88,109 'thing':85,86 'tone':81 'userspac':58 'whole':84" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7090782" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701968575 {#1730 : 2023-12-07 18:02:55.0 +01:00 } +"title": 207200 } 2 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1740 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1707 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1559 …} +body: "I just wish for all of us to become more accustomed to working on ourselves instead of projecting the need to develop virtue on others. Linus actually did it, doesn’t mean that he was an asshole before. Brash, sure, crass, yes, but actual assholes don’t calm down as easily." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 0 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701981074 {#1717 : 2023-12-07 21:31:14.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@jose1324@lemmy.world" "@redhat" "@Synthead@lemmy.world" "@barsoap@lemm.ee" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2465 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2463 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2411 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2422 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2458 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2456 …} -id: 208075 -bodyTs: "'accustom':11 'actual':27,44 'asshol':37,45 'becom':9 'brash':39 'calm':48 'crass':41 'develop':22 'doesn':30 'easili':51 'instead':16 'linus':26 'mean':32 'need':20 'other':25 'project':18 'sure':40 'us':7 'virtu':23 'wish':3 'work':13 'yes':42" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7097925" +editedAt: DateTimeImmutable @1703376112 {#1739 : 2023-12-24 01:01:52.0 +01:00 } +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701981074 {#1741 : 2023-12-07 21:31:14.0 +01:00 } +"title": 208075 } 1 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#2454 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#2455 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1559 …} +body: """ Current-day Linus wouldn’t react much differently. Cut the “shut the fuck up”, the one or other “fuck” (but not all, some need to be there for emphasis), done. It’s the real personal shit, the “should be aborted retroactively” stuff, that he cut out. “Obvious garbage and idiocy” is a technical term, programmers apply it to their own work all the time. Compilers are more technical in their language but we know what they mean.\n \n And was this mail, seen in its total impact, a hardship? He went down hard, yes, and thousands upon thousands of Linux *users* breathed a sigh of relief, seeing that Mauro’s attitude towards userland doesn’t fly.\n \n The hardest-hitting sentence in that mail is actually “You have shown yourself to not be competent in this issue”. Absolutely devastating. Taking context into account it’s the equivalent of telling a professional cook that their ingredients suck, what they did with them sucks, and most of all that the gall which which they claimed that the customer is wrong about their dinner sucking is completely, and utterly, unprofessional.\n \n Of course that’s hard on Mauro. There’s no way to tell someone about such an epic cock-up without being hard. But not going that far, avoiding that hardship for some notion of civility, now that would be right-out cruel. 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If anything, then an idiot (indirectly, by saying “I don’t want to hear that kind of garbage and idiocy from a kernel maintainer again”.\n \n How many of the people complaining about the mail being abusive or whatnot actually read it. 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I vastly prefer an angry-sounding takedown over a passive aggressive takedown and a takedown Mauro definitely deserved because his code was, in fact, utter shite, *and that as a maintainer*. This isn’t “oh he’s a noob he doesn’t know how the kernel works” type of territory. Also note that this happened *after* he had been told what’s up in a neutral and factual way: Linus, even in his most management by perkele days, never made those things the first reply to anything. So Mauro got his chance to spot that he fucked up and correct his approach, he didn’t, therefore, it has to be said loudly. Simple as that.\n \n Also, no “you should be aborted retroactively” in sight anywhere. Yeah that stuff wasn’t necessary even though everyone with an ounce of social intelligence should readily spot that those insults were always so over the top as to be obviously humorous. 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Mauro gets paid to work on the kernel and is not a noob who doesn’t know better, either, he’s a maintainer who fucked up basic maintenance." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 15 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701954818 {#1572 : 2023-12-07 14:13:38.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@jose1324@lemmy.world" "@redhat" "@Synthead@lemmy.world" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1548 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1554 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1556 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1555 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1620 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1604 …} -id: 206422 -bodyTs: "'address':8 'basic':39 'better':30 'doesn':27 'either':31 'fuck':37 'get':14 'kernel':20 'know':29 'maintain':35 'mainten':40 'mauro':13 'messag':4 'might':11 'noob':25 'notic':12 'paid':15 'redhat':7 'work':17" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7083443" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701954818 {#1563 : 2023-12-07 14:13:38.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206422 } 5 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1701 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1683 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +body: """ “being a dick” and “assertive” are weasel terms which do a hell a lot of lifting in your argument there. I have no idea where your line for behaviour to be deemed acceptable actually is.\n \n IMO, no, Linus wasn’t a dick. He called out a specific attitude and behaviour which Mauro is not supposed to show in his role as maintainer. What about Mauro being a dick because he went in all self-righteous like “this is a bug in pulseaudio”?\n \n If you were a restaurant manager, and a server told a customer that he’s not going to serve beer with steak but only wine because “drinking beer with steak is obviously wrong”, what would you do? Chew them out, of course. It’s way out of line. This isn’t Linus exploding over nothing just to bully someone, that’s a thing he has *never* done.\n \n If you want someone toxic to complain about in the FOSS space pick Lennart Poettering, the kind of guy who replies to “We’d like to be able to disable various features to keep things small” with “why do you hate disabled people they need accessibility”. More generally speaking: Focussing on tone never ends up well. You can be incredibly toxic in the most flowery of idioms. 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Switcharoos with actual substance and everyone is way more humble." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 4 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701962246 {#1630 : 2023-12-07 16:17:26.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@feddylemmy@lemmy.world" "@Windex007@lemmy.world" "@interceder270@lemmy.world" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1599 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1625 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1617 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1725 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1722 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1726 …} -id: 206790 -bodyTs: "'actual':9 'everyon':12 'humbl':16 'lemmi':4 'reddit':6 'substanc':10 'switcharoo':7 'way':14 'yep':1" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7087266" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701962246 {#1629 : 2023-12-07 16:17:26.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206790 } 3 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1737 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1734 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +body: """ > and being abusive\n \n There’s it again. What, precisely, is it that makes Linus’ comment “abusive”? Is he gaslighting? Is he attacking Mauro over what he is? All I see is calling out, harshly, what Mauro *did*, behaviour that actually occurred and that is not acceptable and that Mauro *knows* is not acceptable. “We do not break userspace” is the rule #1 of Linux development, Mauro ignored it *and* was a dick about it.\n \n Or do you disagree with the *tone* of the whole thing. Things like “Shut up” instead of “This is not up for discussion”. If so, then please for the love of the gods please shut up. 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Linus actually did it, doesn’t mean that he was an asshole before. Brash, sure, crass, yes, but actual assholes don’t calm down as easily." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 0 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701981074 {#1717 : 2023-12-07 21:31:14.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@jose1324@lemmy.world" "@redhat" "@Synthead@lemmy.world" "@barsoap@lemm.ee" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2465 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2463 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2411 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2422 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2458 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2456 …} -id: 208075 -bodyTs: "'accustom':11 'actual':27,44 'asshol':37,45 'becom':9 'brash':39 'calm':48 'crass':41 'develop':22 'doesn':30 'easili':51 'instead':16 'linus':26 'mean':32 'need':20 'other':25 'project':18 'sure':40 'us':7 'virtu':23 'wish':3 'work':13 'yes':42" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7097925" +editedAt: DateTimeImmutable @1703376112 {#1739 : 2023-12-24 01:01:52.0 +01:00 } +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701981074 {#1741 : 2023-12-07 21:31:14.0 +01:00 } +"title": 208075 } 1 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#2454 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#2455 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1559 …} +body: """ Current-day Linus wouldn’t react much differently. Cut the “shut the fuck up”, the one or other “fuck” (but not all, some need to be there for emphasis), done. It’s the real personal shit, the “should be aborted retroactively” stuff, that he cut out. “Obvious garbage and idiocy” is a technical term, programmers apply it to their own work all the time. Compilers are more technical in their language but we know what they mean.\n \n And was this mail, seen in its total impact, a hardship? He went down hard, yes, and thousands upon thousands of Linux *users* breathed a sigh of relief, seeing that Mauro’s attitude towards userland doesn’t fly.\n \n The hardest-hitting sentence in that mail is actually “You have shown yourself to not be competent in this issue”. Absolutely devastating. Taking context into account it’s the equivalent of telling a professional cook that their ingredients suck, what they did with them sucks, and most of all that the gall which which they claimed that the customer is wrong about their dinner sucking is completely, and utterly, unprofessional.\n \n Of course that’s hard on Mauro. There’s no way to tell someone about such an epic cock-up without being hard. But not going that far, avoiding that hardship for some notion of civility, now that would be right-out cruel. 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If anything, then an idiot (indirectly, by saying “I don’t want to hear that kind of garbage and idiocy from a kernel maintainer again”.\n \n How many of the people complaining about the mail being abusive or whatnot actually read it. 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""" +rules: null +subscriptionsCount: 1 +entryCount: 398 +entryCommentCount: 11895 +postCount: 1 +postCommentCount: 0 +isAdult: false +customCss: null +lastActive: DateTime @1726884280 {#3171 : 2024-09-21 04:04:40.0 +02:00 } +markedForDeletionAt: null +tags: null +moderators: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3175 …} +ownershipRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3177 …} +moderatorRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3179 …} +entries: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3181 …} +posts: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3183 …} +subscriptions: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3185 …} +bans: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3191 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3199 …} +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3212 …} +logs: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3222 …} +awards: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3204 …} +categories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3228 …} -id: 83 +apId: "linuxmemes@lemmy.world" +apProfileId: "https://lemmy.world/c/linuxmemes" +apPublicUrl: "https://lemmy.world/c/linuxmemes" +apFollowersUrl: "https://lemmy.world/c/linuxmemes/followers" +apInboxUrl: "https://lemmy.world/inbox" +apDomain: "lemmy.world" +apPreferredUsername: "linuxmemes" +apDiscoverable: true +apManuallyApprovesFollowers: null +privateKey: null +publicKey: null +apFetchedAt: DateTime @1719076635 {#3172 : 2024-06-22 19:17:15.0 +02:00 } +apDeletedAt: null +apTimeoutAt: null +visibility: "visible " +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1699095615 {#3173 : 2023-11-04 12:00:15.0 +01:00 } +__isInitialized__: true …2 } +image: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#2199 …} +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#2267 …} +slug: "Linus-does-not-fuck-around" +title: "Linus does not fuck around" +url: "https://lemmy.one/pictrs/image/f5614afd-25b9-4afe-a003-00eab7c7fb34.png" +body: "An oldie, but a goodie" +type: "image" +lang: "en" +isOc: false +hasEmbed: true +commentCount: 471 +favouriteCount: 1556 +score: 0 +isAdult: false +sticky: false +lastActive: DateTime @1720068489 {#2101 : 2024-07-04 06:48:09.0 +02:00 } +ip: null +adaAmount: 0 +tags: null +mentions: null +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2268 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2266 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2200 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2246 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2260 …} +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2142 …} +children: [ 7 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1614 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +body: """ Nah it’s completely fine. I vastly prefer an angry-sounding takedown over a passive aggressive takedown and a takedown Mauro definitely deserved because his code was, in fact, utter shite, *and that as a maintainer*. This isn’t “oh he’s a noob he doesn’t know how the kernel works” type of territory. Also note that this happened *after* he had been told what’s up in a neutral and factual way: Linus, even in his most management by perkele days, never made those things the first reply to anything. So Mauro got his chance to spot that he fucked up and correct his approach, he didn’t, therefore, it has to be said loudly. Simple as that.\n \n Also, no “you should be aborted retroactively” in sight anywhere. Yeah that stuff wasn’t necessary even though everyone with an ounce of social intelligence should readily spot that those insults were always so over the top as to be obviously humorous. 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Mauro gets paid to work on the kernel and is not a noob who doesn’t know better, either, he’s a maintainer who fucked up basic maintenance." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 15 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701954818 {#1572 : 2023-12-07 14:13:38.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@jose1324@lemmy.world" "@redhat" "@Synthead@lemmy.world" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1548 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1554 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1556 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1555 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1620 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1604 …} -id: 206422 -bodyTs: "'address':8 'basic':39 'better':30 'doesn':27 'either':31 'fuck':37 'get':14 'kernel':20 'know':29 'maintain':35 'mainten':40 'mauro':13 'messag':4 'might':11 'noob':25 'notic':12 'paid':15 'redhat':7 'work':17" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7083443" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701954818 {#1563 : 2023-12-07 14:13:38.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206422 } 5 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1701 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1683 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +body: """ “being a dick” and “assertive” are weasel terms which do a hell a lot of lifting in your argument there. I have no idea where your line for behaviour to be deemed acceptable actually is.\n \n IMO, no, Linus wasn’t a dick. He called out a specific attitude and behaviour which Mauro is not supposed to show in his role as maintainer. What about Mauro being a dick because he went in all self-righteous like “this is a bug in pulseaudio”?\n \n If you were a restaurant manager, and a server told a customer that he’s not going to serve beer with steak but only wine because “drinking beer with steak is obviously wrong”, what would you do? Chew them out, of course. It’s way out of line. This isn’t Linus exploding over nothing just to bully someone, that’s a thing he has *never* done.\n \n If you want someone toxic to complain about in the FOSS space pick Lennart Poettering, the kind of guy who replies to “We’d like to be able to disable various features to keep things small” with “why do you hate disabled people they need accessibility”. More generally speaking: Focussing on tone never ends up well. You can be incredibly toxic in the most flowery of idioms. """ +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 11 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701959697 {#1619 : 2023-12-07 15:34:57.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@feddylemmy@lemmy.world" "@barsoap@lemm.ee" "@oatscoop@midwest.social" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1687 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1689 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1691 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1795 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1711 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1611 …} -id: 206639 -bodyTs: "'abl':178 'accept':33 'access':196 'actual':34 'argument':19 'assert':5 'attitud':48 'beer':103,111 'behaviour':29,50 'bug':81 'bulli':141 'call':44 'chew':121 'complain':157 'cours':125 'custom':95 'd':174 'deem':32 'dick':3,42,68 'disabl':180,192 'done':150 'drink':110 'end':204 'explod':136 'featur':182 'floweri':215 'focuss':200 'foss':161 'general':198 'go':100 'guy':169 'hate':191 'hell':12 'idea':24 'idiom':217 'imo':36 'incred':210 'isn':133 'keep':184 'kind':167 'lennart':164 'lift':16 'like':77,175 'line':27,131 'linus':38,135 'lot':14 'maintain':62 'manag':89 'mauro':52,65 'need':195 'never':149,203 'noth':138 'obvious':115 'peopl':193 'pick':163 'poetter':165 'pulseaudio':83 'repli':171 'restaur':88 'righteous':76 'role':60 'self':75 'self-right':74 'serv':102 'server':92 'show':57 'small':186 'someon':142,154 'space':162 'speak':199 'specif':47 'steak':105,113 'suppos':55 'term':8 'thing':146,185 'told':93 'tone':202 'toxic':155,211 'various':181 'want':153 'wasn':39 'way':128 'weasel':7 'well':206 'went':71 'wine':108 'would':118 'wrong':116" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7085819" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701959697 {#1702 : 2023-12-07 15:34:57.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206639 } 4 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1628 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1626 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +body: "Yep this is lemmy not reddit. Switcharoos with actual substance and everyone is way more humble." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 4 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701962246 {#1630 : 2023-12-07 16:17:26.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@feddylemmy@lemmy.world" "@Windex007@lemmy.world" "@interceder270@lemmy.world" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1599 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1625 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1617 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1725 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1722 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1726 …} -id: 206790 -bodyTs: "'actual':9 'everyon':12 'humbl':16 'lemmi':4 'reddit':6 'substanc':10 'switcharoo':7 'way':14 'yep':1" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7087266" +editedAt: null +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701962246 {#1629 : 2023-12-07 16:17:26.0 +01:00 } +"title": 206790 } 3 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1737 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1734 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1653 …} +body: """ > and being abusive\n \n There’s it again. What, precisely, is it that makes Linus’ comment “abusive”? Is he gaslighting? Is he attacking Mauro over what he is? All I see is calling out, harshly, what Mauro *did*, behaviour that actually occurred and that is not acceptable and that Mauro *knows* is not acceptable. “We do not break userspace” is the rule #1 of Linux development, Mauro ignored it *and* was a dick about it.\n \n Or do you disagree with the *tone* of the whole thing. Things like “Shut up” instead of “This is not up for discussion”. If so, then please for the love of the gods please shut up. 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Linus actually did it, doesn’t mean that he was an asshole before. Brash, sure, crass, yes, but actual assholes don’t calm down as easily." +lang: "en" +isAdult: false +favouriteCount: 0 +score: 0 +lastActive: DateTime @1701981074 {#1717 : 2023-12-07 21:31:14.0 +01:00 } +ip: null +tags: null +mentions: [ "@AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one" "@jose1324@lemmy.world" "@redhat" "@Synthead@lemmy.world" "@barsoap@lemm.ee" ] +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2465 …} +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2463 …} +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2411 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2422 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2458 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2456 …} -id: 208075 -bodyTs: "'accustom':11 'actual':27,44 'asshol':37,45 'becom':9 'brash':39 'calm':48 'crass':41 'develop':22 'doesn':30 'easili':51 'instead':16 'linus':26 'mean':32 'need':20 'other':25 'project':18 'sure':40 'us':7 'virtu':23 'wish':3 'work':13 'yes':42" +ranking: 0 +commentCount: 0 +upVotes: 0 +downVotes: 0 +visibility: "visible " +apId: "https://lemm.ee/comment/7097925" +editedAt: DateTimeImmutable @1703376112 {#1739 : 2023-12-24 01:01:52.0 +01:00 } +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701981074 {#1741 : 2023-12-07 21:31:14.0 +01:00 } +"title": 208075 } 1 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#2454 +user: App\Entity\User {#259} +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1579 …2} +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1585 …2} +image: null +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#2455 …} +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1559 …} +body: """ Current-day Linus wouldn’t react much differently. Cut the “shut the fuck up”, the one or other “fuck” (but not all, some need to be there for emphasis), done. It’s the real personal shit, the “should be aborted retroactively” stuff, that he cut out. “Obvious garbage and idiocy” is a technical term, programmers apply it to their own work all the time. Compilers are more technical in their language but we know what they mean.\n \n And was this mail, seen in its total impact, a hardship? He went down hard, yes, and thousands upon thousands of Linux *users* breathed a sigh of relief, seeing that Mauro’s attitude towards userland doesn’t fly.\n \n The hardest-hitting sentence in that mail is actually “You have shown yourself to not be competent in this issue”. Absolutely devastating. Taking context into account it’s the equivalent of telling a professional cook that their ingredients suck, what they did with them sucks, and most of all that the gall which which they claimed that the customer is wrong about their dinner sucking is completely, and utterly, unprofessional.\n \n Of course that’s hard on Mauro. There’s no way to tell someone about such an epic cock-up without being hard. But not going that far, avoiding that hardship for some notion of civility, now that would be right-out cruel. 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If anything, then an idiot (indirectly, by saying “I don’t want to hear that kind of garbage and idiocy from a kernel maintainer again”.\n \n How many of the people complaining about the mail being abusive or whatnot actually read it. 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Component | App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#8753 +label: "Dynamic lists" +help: "" +settingsKey: "KBIN_GENERAL_DYNAMIC_LISTS" +defaultValue: false +reloadRequired: true } |
settings_row_switch | App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent | 12.0 MiB | 0.12 ms | |
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Input props | [ "label" => "Rounded edges" "settingsKey" => "KBIN_GENERAL_ROUNDED_EDGES" ] |
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Component | App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#8816 +label: "Rounded edges" +help: "" +settingsKey: "KBIN_GENERAL_ROUNDED_EDGES" +defaultValue: false +reloadRequired: true } |
settings_row_switch | App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent | 12.0 MiB | 0.12 ms | |
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Input props | [ "label" => "Infinite scrolling" "help" => "Automatically load more content when you reach the bottom of the page." "settingsKey" => "KBIN_GENERAL_INFINITE_SCROLL" ] |
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Attributes | [] |
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Component | App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#8872 +label: "Infinite scrolling" +help: "Automatically load more content when you reach the bottom of the page." +settingsKey: "KBIN_GENERAL_INFINITE_SCROLL" +defaultValue: false +reloadRequired: true } |
settings_row_switch | App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent | 12.0 MiB | 0.12 ms | |
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Input props | [ "label" => "Sticky navbar" "help" => "The navbar will stick to the top of the page when you scroll down." "settingsKey" => "KBIN_GENERAL_FIXED_NAVBAR" ] |
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Attributes | [] |
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Component | App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#8931 +label: "Sticky navbar" +help: "The navbar will stick to the top of the page when you scroll down." +settingsKey: "KBIN_GENERAL_FIXED_NAVBAR" +defaultValue: false +reloadRequired: true } |
settings_row_switch | App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent | 12.0 MiB | 0.12 ms | |
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Input props | [ "label" => "Show top bar" "settingsKey" => "KBIN_GENERAL_TOPBAR" ] |
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Attributes | [] |
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Component | App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#8987 +label: "Show top bar" +help: "" +settingsKey: "KBIN_GENERAL_TOPBAR" +defaultValue: false +reloadRequired: true } |
settings_row_switch | App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent | 12.0 MiB | 0.12 ms | |
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Input props | [ "label" => "Turbo mode (experimental)" "settingsKey" => "KBIN_GENERAL_TURBO" ] |
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Attributes | [] |
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Component | App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#9043 +label: "Turbo mode (experimental)" +help: "" +settingsKey: "KBIN_GENERAL_TURBO" +defaultValue: false +reloadRequired: true } |
user_settings_row_switch | App\Twig\Components\UserSettingsRowSwitchComponent | 12.0 MiB | 0.23 ms | |
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Input props | [ "label" => "Mark new comments" "settingsKey" => "KBIN_MARK_NEW_COMMENTS" ] |
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Attributes | [] |
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Component | App\Twig\Components\UserSettingsRowSwitchComponent {#9101 +label: "Mark new comments" +help: "" +settingsKey: "KBIN_MARK_NEW_COMMENTS" +defaultValue: false +reloadRequired: true } |
settings_row_switch | App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent | 12.0 MiB | 0.15 ms | |
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Input props | [ "label" => "Show "Support Us" block" "settingsKey" => "KBIN_GENERAL_SUPPORT_US_BLOCK" "defaultValue" => true ] |
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Attributes | [] |
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Component | App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#9164 +label: "Show "Support Us" block" +help: "" +settingsKey: "KBIN_GENERAL_SUPPORT_US_BLOCK" +defaultValue: true +reloadRequired: true } |
user_settings_row_switch | App\Twig\Components\UserSettingsRowSwitchComponent | 12.0 MiB | 0.14 ms | |
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Input props | [ "label" => "Show subscribed users" "settingsKey" => "KBIN_SUB_CHANNEL_USERS" ] |
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Attributes | [] |
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Component | App\Twig\Components\UserSettingsRowSwitchComponent {#9222 +label: "Show subscribed users" +help: "" +settingsKey: "KBIN_SUB_CHANNEL_USERS" +defaultValue: false +reloadRequired: true } |
user_settings_row_switch | App\Twig\Components\UserSettingsRowSwitchComponent | 12.0 MiB | 0.14 ms | |
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Input props | [ "label" => "Show subscribed magazines" "settingsKey" => "KBIN_SUB_CHANNEL_MAGAZINES" ] |
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Attributes | [] |
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Component | App\Twig\Components\UserSettingsRowSwitchComponent {#9278 +label: "Show subscribed magazines" +help: "" +settingsKey: "KBIN_SUB_CHANNEL_MAGAZINES" +defaultValue: false +reloadRequired: true } |
user_settings_row_switch | App\Twig\Components\UserSettingsRowSwitchComponent | 12.0 MiB | 0.14 ms | |
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Input props | [ "label" => "Show subscribed domains" "settingsKey" => "KBIN_SUB_CHANNEL_DOMAINS" ] |
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Attributes | [] |
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Component | App\Twig\Components\UserSettingsRowSwitchComponent {#9334 +label: "Show subscribed domains" +help: "" +settingsKey: "KBIN_SUB_CHANNEL_DOMAINS" +defaultValue: false +reloadRequired: true } |
settings_row_switch | App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent | 12.0 MiB | 0.18 ms | |
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Input props | [ "label" => "Auto media preview" "help" => "Automatically expand media previews." "settingsKey" => "KBIN_ENTRIES_SHOW_PREVIEW" ] |
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Attributes | [] |
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Component | App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#9390 +label: "Auto media preview" +help: "Automatically expand media previews." +settingsKey: "KBIN_ENTRIES_SHOW_PREVIEW" +defaultValue: false +reloadRequired: true } |
settings_row_switch | App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent | 12.0 MiB | 0.13 ms | |
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Input props | [ "label" => "Compact view" "settingsKey" => "KBIN_ENTRIES_COMPACT" ] |
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Attributes | [] |
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Component | App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#9446 +label: "Compact view" +help: "" +settingsKey: "KBIN_ENTRIES_COMPACT" +defaultValue: false +reloadRequired: true } |
settings_row_switch | App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent | 12.0 MiB | 0.19 ms | |
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Input props | [ "label" => "Show users’ avatars" "settingsKey" => "KBIN_ENTRIES_SHOW_USERS_AVATARS" ] |
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Attributes | [] |
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Component | App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#9502 +label: "Show users’ avatars" +help: "" +settingsKey: "KBIN_ENTRIES_SHOW_USERS_AVATARS" +defaultValue: false +reloadRequired: true } |
settings_row_switch | App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent | 12.0 MiB | 0.13 ms | |
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Input props | [ "label" => "Show magazines’ icons" "settingsKey" => "KBIN_ENTRIES_SHOW_MAGAZINES_ICONS" ] |
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Attributes | [] |
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Component | App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#9558 +label: "Show magazines’ icons" +help: "" +settingsKey: "KBIN_ENTRIES_SHOW_MAGAZINES_ICONS" +defaultValue: false +reloadRequired: true } |
settings_row_switch | App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent | 12.0 MiB | 0.13 ms | |
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Input props | [ "label" => "Show thumbnails" "settingsKey" => "KBIN_ENTRIES_SHOW_THUMBNAILS" "defaultValue" => true ] |
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Attributes | [] |
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Component | App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#9614 +label: "Show thumbnails" +help: "" +settingsKey: "KBIN_ENTRIES_SHOW_THUMBNAILS" +defaultValue: true +reloadRequired: true } |
settings_row_switch | App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent | 12.0 MiB | 0.13 ms | |
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Input props | [ "label" => "Auto media preview" "help" => "Automatically expand media previews." "settingsKey" => "KBIN_POSTS_SHOW_PREVIEW" ] |
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Attributes | [] |
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Component | App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#9670 +label: "Auto media preview" +help: "Automatically expand media previews." +settingsKey: "KBIN_POSTS_SHOW_PREVIEW" +defaultValue: false +reloadRequired: true } |
settings_row_switch | App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent | 12.0 MiB | 0.13 ms | |
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Input props | [ "label" => "Show users’ avatars" "settingsKey" => "KBIN_POSTS_SHOW_USERS_AVATARS" "defaultValue" => true ] |
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Attributes | [] |
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Component | App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#9726 +label: "Show users’ avatars" +help: "" +settingsKey: "KBIN_POSTS_SHOW_USERS_AVATARS" +defaultValue: true +reloadRequired: true } |
settings_row_enum | App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowEnumComponent | 12.0 MiB | 0.15 ms | |
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Input props | [ "label" => "Comment reply position" "help" => "Display the comment reply form either at the top or bottom of the page. When 'infinite scroll' is enabled the position will always appear at the top." "settingsKey" => "KBIN_COMMENTS_REPLY_POSITION" "values" => [ [ "name" => "top" "value" => "TOP" ] [ "name" => "bottom" "value" => "BOTTOM" ] ] "defaultValue" => "TOP" ] |
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Attributes | [] |
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Component | App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowEnumComponent {#9782 +label: "Comment reply position" +help: "Display the comment reply form either at the top or bottom of the page. When 'infinite scroll' is enabled the position will always appear at the top." +settingsKey: "KBIN_COMMENTS_REPLY_POSITION" +values: [ [ "name" => "top" "value" => "TOP" ] [ "name" => "bottom" "value" => "BOTTOM" ] ] +defaultValue: "TOP" +reloadRequired: true } |
settings_row_switch | App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent | 12.0 MiB | 0.13 ms | |
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Input props | [ "label" => "Show Comment Avatars" "help" => "Display/hide user avatars when viewing comments on a single thread or post." "settingsKey" => "KBIN_COMMENTS_SHOW_USER_AVATAR" "defaultValue" => true ] |
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Attributes | [] |
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Component | App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#9840 +label: "Show Comment Avatars" +help: "Display/hide user avatars when viewing comments on a single thread or post." +settingsKey: "KBIN_COMMENTS_SHOW_USER_AVATAR" +defaultValue: true +reloadRequired: true } |
date | App\Twig\Components\DateComponent | 12.0 MiB | 0.13 ms | |
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Input props | [ "date" => DateTimeImmutable @1691230838 {#269 : 2023-08-05 12:20:38.0 +02:00 } ] |
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Attributes | [] |
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Component | App\Twig\Components\DateComponent {#9913 +date: DateTimeImmutable @1691230838 {#269 : 2023-08-05 12:20:38.0 +02:00 } } |
related_magazines | App\Twig\Components\RelatedMagazinesComponent | 12.0 MiB | 2.14 ms | |
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Input props | [ "magazine" => null "tag" => null ] |
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Attributes | [] |
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Component | App\Twig\Components\RelatedMagazinesComponent {#10000 +limit: 4 +tag: null +magazine: null +type: "random" +title: "random_magazines" +refreshedRandom: false -repository: App\Repository\MagazineRepository {#2438 …} -cache: Symfony\Component\Cache\Adapter\TraceableTagAwareAdapter {#600 …} -twig: Twig\Environment {#1252 …} -requestStack: Symfony\Component\HttpFoundation\RequestStack {#1328 …} } |
active_users | App\Twig\Components\ActiveUsersComponent | 12.0 MiB | 4.55 ms | |
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Input props | [ "magazine" => null ] |
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Attributes | [] |
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Component | App\Twig\Components\ActiveUsersComponent {#10065 +magazine: null -userRepository: App\Repository\UserRepository {#603 …} -cache: Symfony\Component\Cache\Adapter\TraceableTagAwareAdapter {#600 …} -twig: Twig\Environment {#1252 …} -requestStack: Symfony\Component\HttpFoundation\RequestStack {#1328 …} } |
related_categories | App\Twig\Components\RelatedCategoriesComponent | 12.0 MiB | 4.99 ms | |
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Input props | [ "magazine" => null "tag" => null ] |
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Attributes | [] |
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Component | App\Twig\Components\RelatedCategoriesComponent {#10124 +limit: 4 +tag: null +magazine: null +type: "random" +title: "random_categories" +refreshedRandom: false -repository: App\Repository\CategoryRepository {#10125 …} -cache: Symfony\Component\Cache\Adapter\TraceableTagAwareAdapter {#600 …} -twig: Twig\Environment {#1252 …} -requestStack: Symfony\Component\HttpFoundation\RequestStack {#1328 …} } |
related_posts | App\Twig\Components\RelatedPostsComponent | 12.0 MiB | 2.74 ms | |
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Input props | [ "magazine" => null "tag" => null ] |
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Attributes | [] |
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Component | App\Twig\Components\RelatedPostsComponent {#10194 +limit: 4 +tag: null +magazine: null +type: "random" +post: null +title: "random_posts" +refreshedRandom: false -repository: App\Repository\PostRepository {#1638 …} -cache: Symfony\Component\Cache\Adapter\TraceableTagAwareAdapter {#600 …} -twig: Twig\Environment {#1252 …} -requestStack: Symfony\Component\HttpFoundation\RequestStack {#1328 …} -mentionManager: App\Service\MentionManager {#1539 …} } |
related_entries | App\Twig\Components\RelatedEntriesComponent | 12.0 MiB | 3.11 ms | |
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Input props | [ "magazine" => null "tag" => null ] |
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Attributes | [] |
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Component | App\Twig\Components\RelatedEntriesComponent {#10263 +limit: 4 +tag: null +magazine: null +type: "random" +entry: null +title: "random_entries" +refreshedRandom: false -repository: App\Repository\EntryRepository {#1787 …} -cache: Symfony\Component\Cache\Adapter\TraceableTagAwareAdapter {#600 …} -twig: Twig\Environment {#1252 …} -requestStack: Symfony\Component\HttpFoundation\RequestStack {#1328 …} -mentionManager: App\Service\MentionManager {#1539 …} } |
support_us_block | App\Twig\Components\SupportUsBlock | 12.0 MiB | 0.59 ms | |
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Input props | [] |
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Attributes | [] |
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Component | App\Twig\Components\SupportUsBlock {#10332 +subject: ? App\Entity\Contracts\VotableInterface +url: ? string -twig: Twig\Environment {#1252 …} -cache: Symfony\Component\Cache\Adapter\TraceableTagAwareAdapter {#600 …} -requestStack: Symfony\Component\HttpFoundation\RequestStack {#1328 …} -partnerBlockRepository: App\Repository\PartnerBlockRepository {#10333 …} } |
featured_magazines | App\Twig\Components\FeaturedMagazinesComponent | 12.0 MiB | 0.94 ms | |
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Input props | [ "magazine" => null ] |
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Attributes | [] |
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Component | App\Twig\Components\FeaturedMagazinesComponent {#10425 +magazine: null -twig: Twig\Environment {#1252 …} -repository: App\Repository\MagazineRepository {#2438 …} } |