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Security enabled

Stateless

Configuration

Key	Value
provider	security.user.provider.concrete.app_user_provider
context	main
entry_point	App\Security\KbinAuthenticator
user_checker	App\Security\UserChecker
access_denied_handler	(none)
access_denied_url	(none)
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Listener	Duration	Response
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affirmative Strategy


"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\AuthenticatedVoter"
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\ExpressionVoter"
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"

#	Voter class
1	"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\AuthenticatedVoter"
2	"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
3	"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
4	"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\ExpressionVoter"
5	"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
6	"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
7	"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
8	"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
9	"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
10	"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
11	"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
12	"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
13	"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
14	"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"

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      - [!technology@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/technology)\n
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      - [!technology@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/technology)\n
      - [!libre_hardware@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_hardware)\n
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      Community icon by [Alpár-Etele Méder](https://www.iconfinder.com/pocike), licensed under [CC BY 3.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/)
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    I recommend [SolDoesTech](https://github.com/SolDoesTech/HyprV4) or [My Linux for Work](https://gitlab.com/stephan-raabe/dotfiles). Both have full guides on Youtube as well for “easy” Arch + Hyprland installs.
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        video games started LONG before NES or Sega …\n
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      The oldest crpg I ever played was called [advent](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colossal_Cave_Adventure), because the Vax computers could only use 6 characters for file names and so the people who ported it couldn’t use the actual name “adventure.” It was basically the same as the game infocom shipped as Zork.\n
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    - [Colossal Cave Adventure](https://if50.substack.com/p/1976-adventure)\n
    - [Get Lamp](http://www.getlamp.com/)
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        video games started LONG before NES or Sega …\n
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    - [Colossal Cave Adventure](https://if50.substack.com/p/1976-adventure)\n
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          I don’t think stallman would say videogames being proprietary is evil, I believe he made an exception for art.\n
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            +body: "but older videogames were extremely proprietary… like NES or Sega… So it would be something different."
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            I don’t think stallman would say videogames being proprietary is evil, I believe he made an exception for art.\n
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            And bear in mind, every vintage console emulator to play those games are open source.
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        +body: "[Here it is, straight from the horse’s mouth](https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/nonfree-games.en.html)"
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            I don’t think stallman would say videogames being proprietary is evil, I believe he made an exception for art.\n
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            And bear in mind, every vintage console emulator to play those games are open source.
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            I don’t think stallman would say videogames being proprietary is evil, I believe he made an exception for art.\n
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        +body: "[Here it is, straight from the horse’s mouth](https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/nonfree-games.en.html)"
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      I don’t think stallman would say videogames being proprietary is evil, I believe he made an exception for art.\n
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          I don’t think stallman would say videogames being proprietary is evil, I believe he made an exception for art.\n
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            I don’t think stallman would say videogames being proprietary is evil, I believe he made an exception for art.\n
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            And bear in mind, every vintage console emulator to play those games are open source.
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            I don’t think stallman would say videogames being proprietary is evil, I believe he made an exception for art.\n
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              I don’t think stallman would say videogames being proprietary is evil, I believe he made an exception for art.\n
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              +body: "but older videogames were extremely proprietary… like NES or Sega… So it would be something different."
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              I don’t think stallman would say videogames being proprietary is evil, I believe he made an exception for art.\n
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              I don’t think stallman would say videogames being proprietary is evil, I believe he made an exception for art.\n
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    I have never owned a console, but have been playing games since I was 4 (that would be 1981). Also I can’t remember paying for anything in those days :-) Everything came on cassettes and floppies.\n
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      I’ve spoken to another user who has the same issue as me and they made a couple suggestions including disabling certain options in BIOS or trying a distribution with a newer kernel.\n
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    I feel you. The bugs that get the machine to crash and you have zero chance of getting any useful debug information, are by far the most annoying ones.\n
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      I’ve spoken to another user who has the same issue as me and they made a couple suggestions including disabling certain options in BIOS or trying a distribution with a newer kernel.\n
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        I’ve spoken to another user who has the same issue as me and they made a couple suggestions including disabling certain options in BIOS or trying a distribution with a newer kernel.\n
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      I feel you. The bugs that get the machine to crash and you have zero chance of getting any useful debug information, are by far the most annoying ones.\n
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        I’ve spoken to another user who has the same issue as me and they made a couple suggestions including disabling certain options in BIOS or trying a distribution with a newer kernel.\n
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      I feel you. The bugs that get the machine to crash and you have zero chance of getting any useful debug information, are by far the most annoying ones.\n
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    To this day I have no idea how to even get journalctl errors from exactly before that crash.\n
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        I’ve spoken to another user who has the same issue as me and they made a couple suggestions including disabling certain options in BIOS or trying a distribution with a newer kernel.\n
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      I feel you. The bugs that get the machine to crash and you have zero chance of getting any useful debug information, are by far the most annoying ones.\n
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    To this day I have no idea how to even get journalctl errors from exactly before that crash.\n
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          I’ve spoken to another user who has the same issue as me and they made a couple suggestions including disabling certain options in BIOS or trying a distribution with a newer kernel.\n
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        I feel you. The bugs that get the machine to crash and you have zero chance of getting any useful debug information, are by far the most annoying ones.\n
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      To this day I have no idea how to even get journalctl errors from exactly before that crash.\n
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    On my debian machine something like `journalctl -b 1 -k` shows stuff. There’s also lots of debug files in /var/log/ like *boot.log* *debug*, *kern.log*, *messages*, *syslog*.\n
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    But it somehow needs to be able to store the log on your disk. If the system craps out completely, it won’t get written to disk. The magic SysRequest keys might help if it only freezes. I learned “Raising elephants is so utterly boring.” You might wanna goggle that and learn how to do it.\n
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            If your laptop periodically freezes, switching distros won’t fix it.  \n
            Identifying the underlying issue (which is most likely a hardware defect) would be a better use of your time.  \n
            Your first step would be to try and reproduce the issue. See under what circumstances it happens. See if it happens from a live USB or only from your installed system (If it does, this eliminates the SSD as most probable culprit). Do a RAM test. Then ask for help with further trouble-shooting.
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          I’ve spoken to another user who has the same issue as me and they made a couple suggestions including disabling certain options in BIOS or trying a distribution with a newer kernel.\n
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          At first I thought it was issues with iGPU and dGPU switching but I’m beginning to suspect that’s not the case.\n
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          Reproducing when it freezes is a challenge because it’s very inconsistent and does not leave and crash reports.\n
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          The only improvement I’ve seen yet is switching from Linux Mint 21.2 to LMDE 6 but the kernel is still older compared to the versions that I was suggested for my hardware.\n
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        I feel you. The bugs that get the machine to crash and you have zero chance of getting any useful debug information, are by far the most annoying ones.\n
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        In my experience it’s most of the time some driver issues in the kernel or the (NVidia) proprietary drivers. Or an hardware issue. On Debian I can install several kernel versions alongside each other. So there would be no need for me to install more than one distribution. Most of the times a proper crash isn’t caused by the userspace anyways, so it boils down to the different kernel versions and configurations anyways. You could also try an older kernel.
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      To this day I have no idea how to even get journalctl errors from exactly before that crash.\n
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    On my debian machine something like `journalctl -b 1 -k` shows stuff. There’s also lots of debug files in /var/log/ like *boot.log* *debug*, *kern.log*, *messages*, *syslog*.\n
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    But it somehow needs to be able to store the log on your disk. If the system craps out completely, it won’t get written to disk. The magic SysRequest keys might help if it only freezes. I learned “Raising elephants is so utterly boring.” You might wanna goggle that and learn how to do it.\n
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            If your laptop periodically freezes, switching distros won’t fix it.  \n
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          I’ve spoken to another user who has the same issue as me and they made a couple suggestions including disabling certain options in BIOS or trying a distribution with a newer kernel.\n
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          At first I thought it was issues with iGPU and dGPU switching but I’m beginning to suspect that’s not the case.\n
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        I feel you. The bugs that get the machine to crash and you have zero chance of getting any useful debug information, are by far the most annoying ones.\n
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        In my experience it’s most of the time some driver issues in the kernel or the (NVidia) proprietary drivers. Or an hardware issue. On Debian I can install several kernel versions alongside each other. So there would be no need for me to install more than one distribution. Most of the times a proper crash isn’t caused by the userspace anyways, so it boils down to the different kernel versions and configurations anyways. You could also try an older kernel.
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      To this day I have no idea how to even get journalctl errors from exactly before that crash.\n
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      Like all this `journalctl -r -b 1` and all that doesnt seem to show the right ones.
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    On my debian machine something like `journalctl -b 1 -k` shows stuff. There’s also lots of debug files in /var/log/ like *boot.log* *debug*, *kern.log*, *messages*, *syslog*.\n
    \n
    But it somehow needs to be able to store the log on your disk. If the system craps out completely, it won’t get written to disk. The magic SysRequest keys might help if it only freezes. I learned “Raising elephants is so utterly boring.” You might wanna goggle that and learn how to do it.\n
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    Other than that, I mostly look at all logs (no ‘-b1’ and search for the place where it rebooted. Sometimes you find other related stuff while scrolling. But my own (old) thinkpad doesn’t ever crash.\n
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          If your laptop periodically freezes, switching distros won’t fix it.  \n
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        I’ve spoken to another user who has the same issue as me and they made a couple suggestions including disabling certain options in BIOS or trying a distribution with a newer kernel.\n
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        At first I thought it was issues with iGPU and dGPU switching but I’m beginning to suspect that’s not the case.\n
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        The only improvement I’ve seen yet is switching from Linux Mint 21.2 to LMDE 6 but the kernel is still older compared to the versions that I was suggested for my hardware.\n
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        I would like to try a newer kernel just for the sake of trying.
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      I feel you. The bugs that get the machine to crash and you have zero chance of getting any useful debug information, are by far the most annoying ones.\n
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      In my experience it’s most of the time some driver issues in the kernel or the (NVidia) proprietary drivers. Or an hardware issue. On Debian I can install several kernel versions alongside each other. So there would be no need for me to install more than one distribution. Most of the times a proper crash isn’t caused by the userspace anyways, so it boils down to the different kernel versions and configurations anyways. You could also try an older kernel.
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    I have an AMD + AMD setup but apparently the Dell G5 series has issues with linux so it’s been an uphill challenge.\n
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          If your laptop periodically freezes, switching distros won’t fix it.  \n
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        I’ve spoken to another user who has the same issue as me and they made a couple suggestions including disabling certain options in BIOS or trying a distribution with a newer kernel.\n
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      I feel you. The bugs that get the machine to crash and you have zero chance of getting any useful debug information, are by far the most annoying ones.\n
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        I’ve spoken to another user who has the same issue as me and they made a couple suggestions including disabling certain options in BIOS or trying a distribution with a newer kernel.\n
        \n
        At first I thought it was issues with iGPU and dGPU switching but I’m beginning to suspect that’s not the case.\n
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        Reproducing when it freezes is a challenge because it’s very inconsistent and does not leave and crash reports.\n
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        The only improvement I’ve seen yet is switching from Linux Mint 21.2 to LMDE 6 but the kernel is still older compared to the versions that I was suggested for my hardware.\n
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        I would like to try a newer kernel just for the sake of trying.
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      I feel you. The bugs that get the machine to crash and you have zero chance of getting any useful debug information, are by far the most annoying ones.\n
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      In my experience it’s most of the time some driver issues in the kernel or the (NVidia) proprietary drivers. Or an hardware issue. On Debian I can install several kernel versions alongside each other. So there would be no need for me to install more than one distribution. Most of the times a proper crash isn’t caused by the userspace anyways, so it boils down to the different kernel versions and configurations anyways. You could also try an older kernel.
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    I have an AMD + AMD setup but apparently the Dell G5 series has issues with linux so it’s been an uphill challenge.\n
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    I did see that LMDE 6 makes it easy to boot different kernels at startup which is handy. I tried looking at Liquorix Kernel but I don’t think it’s ready for LMDE 6 just yet. I can’t recall exactly why but I got a big nope when trying to download it. I think I tried looking at the Zen Kernel as well but couldn’t figure out if it’s just for Arch or if it’s compatible with Debian.\n
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    Too much to learn and now enough hours or attention span. Slow progress but I guess it’s a thing to do besides watching my plants grow.
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            If your laptop periodically freezes, switching distros won’t fix it.  \n
            Identifying the underlying issue (which is most likely a hardware defect) would be a better use of your time.  \n
            Your first step would be to try and reproduce the issue. See under what circumstances it happens. See if it happens from a live USB or only from your installed system (If it does, this eliminates the SSD as most probable culprit). Do a RAM test. Then ask for help with further trouble-shooting.
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          I’ve spoken to another user who has the same issue as me and they made a couple suggestions including disabling certain options in BIOS or trying a distribution with a newer kernel.\n
          \n
          At first I thought it was issues with iGPU and dGPU switching but I’m beginning to suspect that’s not the case.\n
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          Reproducing when it freezes is a challenge because it’s very inconsistent and does not leave and crash reports.\n
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          The only improvement I’ve seen yet is switching from Linux Mint 21.2 to LMDE 6 but the kernel is still older compared to the versions that I was suggested for my hardware.\n
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          I would like to try a newer kernel just for the sake of trying.
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        I feel you. The bugs that get the machine to crash and you have zero chance of getting any useful debug information, are by far the most annoying ones.\n
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        In my experience it’s most of the time some driver issues in the kernel or the (NVidia) proprietary drivers. Or an hardware issue. On Debian I can install several kernel versions alongside each other. So there would be no need for me to install more than one distribution. Most of the times a proper crash isn’t caused by the userspace anyways, so it boils down to the different kernel versions and configurations anyways. You could also try an older kernel.
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      I have an AMD + AMD setup but apparently the Dell G5 series has issues with linux so it’s been an uphill challenge.\n
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      I did see that LMDE 6 makes it easy to boot different kernels at startup which is handy. I tried looking at Liquorix Kernel but I don’t think it’s ready for LMDE 6 just yet. I can’t recall exactly why but I got a big nope when trying to download it. I think I tried looking at the Zen Kernel as well but couldn’t figure out if it’s just for Arch or if it’s compatible with Debian.\n
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      Too much to learn and now enough hours or attention span. Slow progress but I guess it’s a thing to do besides watching my plants grow.
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    pages like [this](https://www.dell.com/support/kbdoc/en-us/000123145/dell-g5-5505-performance-issues-during-intense-gpu-usage) also suggest things like updating the BIOS and the graphics card firmware with some AMD tool. And I’ve read several times you should try the kernel parameter `amdgpu.runpm=0`\n
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    Make sure to do all of that first. And observe if the freezes happen in certain circumstances. Maybe you can deduct something from that. Maybe it happens while gaming (GPU). Or when under load. Or if you move it around (loose connection), or when hot or after a certain time even if idle. Disable power management and see if that helps. Should be less effort than installing 5 operating systems. (If the crash isn’t super rare) And try using the [magic SysReq keys](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key) to force linux to sync and reboot to see if the kernel is still alive somehow.
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            If your laptop periodically freezes, switching distros won’t fix it.  \n
            Identifying the underlying issue (which is most likely a hardware defect) would be a better use of your time.  \n
            Your first step would be to try and reproduce the issue. See under what circumstances it happens. See if it happens from a live USB or only from your installed system (If it does, this eliminates the SSD as most probable culprit). Do a RAM test. Then ask for help with further trouble-shooting.
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          I’ve spoken to another user who has the same issue as me and they made a couple suggestions including disabling certain options in BIOS or trying a distribution with a newer kernel.\n
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          At first I thought it was issues with iGPU and dGPU switching but I’m beginning to suspect that’s not the case.\n
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          Reproducing when it freezes is a challenge because it’s very inconsistent and does not leave and crash reports.\n
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          The only improvement I’ve seen yet is switching from Linux Mint 21.2 to LMDE 6 but the kernel is still older compared to the versions that I was suggested for my hardware.\n
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          I would like to try a newer kernel just for the sake of trying.
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        I feel you. The bugs that get the machine to crash and you have zero chance of getting any useful debug information, are by far the most annoying ones.\n
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        In my experience it’s most of the time some driver issues in the kernel or the (NVidia) proprietary drivers. Or an hardware issue. On Debian I can install several kernel versions alongside each other. So there would be no need for me to install more than one distribution. Most of the times a proper crash isn’t caused by the userspace anyways, so it boils down to the different kernel versions and configurations anyways. You could also try an older kernel.
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      I have an AMD + AMD setup but apparently the Dell G5 series has issues with linux so it’s been an uphill challenge.\n
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      Too much to learn and now enough hours or attention span. Slow progress but I guess it’s a thing to do besides watching my plants grow.
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    pages like [this](https://www.dell.com/support/kbdoc/en-us/000123145/dell-g5-5505-performance-issues-during-intense-gpu-usage) also suggest things like updating the BIOS and the graphics card firmware with some AMD tool. And I’ve read several times you should try the kernel parameter `amdgpu.runpm=0`\n
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    Make sure to do all of that first. And observe if the freezes happen in certain circumstances. Maybe you can deduct something from that. Maybe it happens while gaming (GPU). Or when under load. Or if you move it around (loose connection), or when hot or after a certain time even if idle. Disable power management and see if that helps. Should be less effort than installing 5 operating systems. (If the crash isn’t super rare) And try using the [magic SysReq keys](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key) to force linux to sync and reboot to see if the kernel is still alive somehow.
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            If your laptop periodically freezes, switching distros won’t fix it.  \n
            Identifying the underlying issue (which is most likely a hardware defect) would be a better use of your time.  \n
            Your first step would be to try and reproduce the issue. See under what circumstances it happens. See if it happens from a live USB or only from your installed system (If it does, this eliminates the SSD as most probable culprit). Do a RAM test. Then ask for help with further trouble-shooting.
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          I’ve spoken to another user who has the same issue as me and they made a couple suggestions including disabling certain options in BIOS or trying a distribution with a newer kernel.\n
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          At first I thought it was issues with iGPU and dGPU switching but I’m beginning to suspect that’s not the case.\n
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          Reproducing when it freezes is a challenge because it’s very inconsistent and does not leave and crash reports.\n
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          The only improvement I’ve seen yet is switching from Linux Mint 21.2 to LMDE 6 but the kernel is still older compared to the versions that I was suggested for my hardware.\n
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          I would like to try a newer kernel just for the sake of trying.
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        I feel you. The bugs that get the machine to crash and you have zero chance of getting any useful debug information, are by far the most annoying ones.\n
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        In my experience it’s most of the time some driver issues in the kernel or the (NVidia) proprietary drivers. Or an hardware issue. On Debian I can install several kernel versions alongside each other. So there would be no need for me to install more than one distribution. Most of the times a proper crash isn’t caused by the userspace anyways, so it boils down to the different kernel versions and configurations anyways. You could also try an older kernel.
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      I have an AMD + AMD setup but apparently the Dell G5 series has issues with linux so it’s been an uphill challenge.\n
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      I did see that LMDE 6 makes it easy to boot different kernels at startup which is handy. I tried looking at Liquorix Kernel but I don’t think it’s ready for LMDE 6 just yet. I can’t recall exactly why but I got a big nope when trying to download it. I think I tried looking at the Zen Kernel as well but couldn’t figure out if it’s just for Arch or if it’s compatible with Debian.\n
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      Too much to learn and now enough hours or attention span. Slow progress but I guess it’s a thing to do besides watching my plants grow.
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    pages like [this](https://www.dell.com/support/kbdoc/en-us/000123145/dell-g5-5505-performance-issues-during-intense-gpu-usage) also suggest things like updating the BIOS and the graphics card firmware with some AMD tool. And I’ve read several times you should try the kernel parameter `amdgpu.runpm=0`\n
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    Make sure to do all of that first. And observe if the freezes happen in certain circumstances. Maybe you can deduct something from that. Maybe it happens while gaming (GPU). Or when under load. Or if you move it around (loose connection), or when hot or after a certain time even if idle. Disable power management and see if that helps. Should be less effort than installing 5 operating systems. (If the crash isn’t super rare) And try using the [magic SysReq keys](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key) to force linux to sync and reboot to see if the kernel is still alive somehow.
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              If your laptop periodically freezes, switching distros won’t fix it.  \n
              Identifying the underlying issue (which is most likely a hardware defect) would be a better use of your time.  \n
              Your first step would be to try and reproduce the issue. See under what circumstances it happens. See if it happens from a live USB or only from your installed system (If it does, this eliminates the SSD as most probable culprit). Do a RAM test. Then ask for help with further trouble-shooting.
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            I’ve spoken to another user who has the same issue as me and they made a couple suggestions including disabling certain options in BIOS or trying a distribution with a newer kernel.\n
            \n
            At first I thought it was issues with iGPU and dGPU switching but I’m beginning to suspect that’s not the case.\n
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            Reproducing when it freezes is a challenge because it’s very inconsistent and does not leave and crash reports.\n
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            The only improvement I’ve seen yet is switching from Linux Mint 21.2 to LMDE 6 but the kernel is still older compared to the versions that I was suggested for my hardware.\n
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            I would like to try a newer kernel just for the sake of trying.
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          I feel you. The bugs that get the machine to crash and you have zero chance of getting any useful debug information, are by far the most annoying ones.\n
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          In my experience it’s most of the time some driver issues in the kernel or the (NVidia) proprietary drivers. Or an hardware issue. On Debian I can install several kernel versions alongside each other. So there would be no need for me to install more than one distribution. Most of the times a proper crash isn’t caused by the userspace anyways, so it boils down to the different kernel versions and configurations anyways. You could also try an older kernel.
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        I have an AMD + AMD setup but apparently the Dell G5 series has issues with linux so it’s been an uphill challenge.\n
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      pages like [this](https://www.dell.com/support/kbdoc/en-us/000123145/dell-g5-5505-performance-issues-during-intense-gpu-usage) also suggest things like updating the BIOS and the graphics card firmware with some AMD tool. And I’ve read several times you should try the kernel parameter `amdgpu.runpm=0`\n
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      Make sure to do all of that first. And observe if the freezes happen in certain circumstances. Maybe you can deduct something from that. Maybe it happens while gaming (GPU). Or when under load. Or if you move it around (loose connection), or when hot or after a certain time even if idle. Disable power management and see if that helps. Should be less effort than installing 5 operating systems. (If the crash isn’t super rare) And try using the [magic SysReq keys](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key) to force linux to sync and reboot to see if the kernel is still alive somehow.
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    Fortunately I updated my BIOS from windows before switching to Linux and as of recently, I still have the latest version.\n
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    I also found that adding `processor.max_cstate=1` has made my system even more stable and I haven’t had a freeze up in days now. [This](https://gist.github.com/dlqqq/876d74d030f80dc899fc58a244b72df0) page gives a nice run down of what it does.\n
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              If your laptop periodically freezes, switching distros won’t fix it.  \n
              Identifying the underlying issue (which is most likely a hardware defect) would be a better use of your time.  \n
              Your first step would be to try and reproduce the issue. See under what circumstances it happens. See if it happens from a live USB or only from your installed system (If it does, this eliminates the SSD as most probable culprit). Do a RAM test. Then ask for help with further trouble-shooting.
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            I’ve spoken to another user who has the same issue as me and they made a couple suggestions including disabling certain options in BIOS or trying a distribution with a newer kernel.\n
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            At first I thought it was issues with iGPU and dGPU switching but I’m beginning to suspect that’s not the case.\n
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            Reproducing when it freezes is a challenge because it’s very inconsistent and does not leave and crash reports.\n
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            The only improvement I’ve seen yet is switching from Linux Mint 21.2 to LMDE 6 but the kernel is still older compared to the versions that I was suggested for my hardware.\n
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            I would like to try a newer kernel just for the sake of trying.
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          I feel you. The bugs that get the machine to crash and you have zero chance of getting any useful debug information, are by far the most annoying ones.\n
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          In my experience it’s most of the time some driver issues in the kernel or the (NVidia) proprietary drivers. Or an hardware issue. On Debian I can install several kernel versions alongside each other. So there would be no need for me to install more than one distribution. Most of the times a proper crash isn’t caused by the userspace anyways, so it boils down to the different kernel versions and configurations anyways. You could also try an older kernel.
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        I have an AMD + AMD setup but apparently the Dell G5 series has issues with linux so it’s been an uphill challenge.\n
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        I did see that LMDE 6 makes it easy to boot different kernels at startup which is handy. I tried looking at Liquorix Kernel but I don’t think it’s ready for LMDE 6 just yet. I can’t recall exactly why but I got a big nope when trying to download it. I think I tried looking at the Zen Kernel as well but couldn’t figure out if it’s just for Arch or if it’s compatible with Debian.\n
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        Too much to learn and now enough hours or attention span. Slow progress but I guess it’s a thing to do besides watching my plants grow.
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      pages like [this](https://www.dell.com/support/kbdoc/en-us/000123145/dell-g5-5505-performance-issues-during-intense-gpu-usage) also suggest things like updating the BIOS and the graphics card firmware with some AMD tool. And I’ve read several times you should try the kernel parameter `amdgpu.runpm=0`\n
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      Make sure to do all of that first. And observe if the freezes happen in certain circumstances. Maybe you can deduct something from that. Maybe it happens while gaming (GPU). Or when under load. Or if you move it around (loose connection), or when hot or after a certain time even if idle. Disable power management and see if that helps. Should be less effort than installing 5 operating systems. (If the crash isn’t super rare) And try using the [magic SysReq keys](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key) to force linux to sync and reboot to see if the kernel is still alive somehow.
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    Fortunately I updated my BIOS from windows before switching to Linux and as of recently, I still have the latest version.\n
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    I also found that adding `processor.max_cstate=1` has made my system even more stable and I haven’t had a freeze up in days now. [This](https://gist.github.com/dlqqq/876d74d030f80dc899fc58a244b72df0) page gives a nice run down of what it does.\n
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              If your laptop periodically freezes, switching distros won’t fix it.  \n
              Identifying the underlying issue (which is most likely a hardware defect) would be a better use of your time.  \n
              Your first step would be to try and reproduce the issue. See under what circumstances it happens. See if it happens from a live USB or only from your installed system (If it does, this eliminates the SSD as most probable culprit). Do a RAM test. Then ask for help with further trouble-shooting.
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            I’ve spoken to another user who has the same issue as me and they made a couple suggestions including disabling certain options in BIOS or trying a distribution with a newer kernel.\n
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            At first I thought it was issues with iGPU and dGPU switching but I’m beginning to suspect that’s not the case.\n
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            Reproducing when it freezes is a challenge because it’s very inconsistent and does not leave and crash reports.\n
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            The only improvement I’ve seen yet is switching from Linux Mint 21.2 to LMDE 6 but the kernel is still older compared to the versions that I was suggested for my hardware.\n
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            I would like to try a newer kernel just for the sake of trying.
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          I feel you. The bugs that get the machine to crash and you have zero chance of getting any useful debug information, are by far the most annoying ones.\n
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          In my experience it’s most of the time some driver issues in the kernel or the (NVidia) proprietary drivers. Or an hardware issue. On Debian I can install several kernel versions alongside each other. So there would be no need for me to install more than one distribution. Most of the times a proper crash isn’t caused by the userspace anyways, so it boils down to the different kernel versions and configurations anyways. You could also try an older kernel.
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        I have an AMD + AMD setup but apparently the Dell G5 series has issues with linux so it’s been an uphill challenge.\n
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        I did see that LMDE 6 makes it easy to boot different kernels at startup which is handy. I tried looking at Liquorix Kernel but I don’t think it’s ready for LMDE 6 just yet. I can’t recall exactly why but I got a big nope when trying to download it. I think I tried looking at the Zen Kernel as well but couldn’t figure out if it’s just for Arch or if it’s compatible with Debian.\n
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        Too much to learn and now enough hours or attention span. Slow progress but I guess it’s a thing to do besides watching my plants grow.
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      pages like [this](https://www.dell.com/support/kbdoc/en-us/000123145/dell-g5-5505-performance-issues-during-intense-gpu-usage) also suggest things like updating the BIOS and the graphics card firmware with some AMD tool. And I’ve read several times you should try the kernel parameter `amdgpu.runpm=0`\n
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    Fortunately I updated my BIOS from windows before switching to Linux and as of recently, I still have the latest version.\n
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                If your laptop periodically freezes, switching distros won’t fix it.  \n
                Identifying the underlying issue (which is most likely a hardware defect) would be a better use of your time.  \n
                Your first step would be to try and reproduce the issue. See under what circumstances it happens. See if it happens from a live USB or only from your installed system (If it does, this eliminates the SSD as most probable culprit). Do a RAM test. Then ask for help with further trouble-shooting.
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              I’ve spoken to another user who has the same issue as me and they made a couple suggestions including disabling certain options in BIOS or trying a distribution with a newer kernel.\n
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              At first I thought it was issues with iGPU and dGPU switching but I’m beginning to suspect that’s not the case.\n
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              Reproducing when it freezes is a challenge because it’s very inconsistent and does not leave and crash reports.\n
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              The only improvement I’ve seen yet is switching from Linux Mint 21.2 to LMDE 6 but the kernel is still older compared to the versions that I was suggested for my hardware.\n
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              I would like to try a newer kernel just for the sake of trying.
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            I feel you. The bugs that get the machine to crash and you have zero chance of getting any useful debug information, are by far the most annoying ones.\n
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            In my experience it’s most of the time some driver issues in the kernel or the (NVidia) proprietary drivers. Or an hardware issue. On Debian I can install several kernel versions alongside each other. So there would be no need for me to install more than one distribution. Most of the times a proper crash isn’t caused by the userspace anyways, so it boils down to the different kernel versions and configurations anyways. You could also try an older kernel.
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          I have an AMD + AMD setup but apparently the Dell G5 series has issues with linux so it’s been an uphill challenge.\n
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          I did see that LMDE 6 makes it easy to boot different kernels at startup which is handy. I tried looking at Liquorix Kernel but I don’t think it’s ready for LMDE 6 just yet. I can’t recall exactly why but I got a big nope when trying to download it. I think I tried looking at the Zen Kernel as well but couldn’t figure out if it’s just for Arch or if it’s compatible with Debian.\n
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          Too much to learn and now enough hours or attention span. Slow progress but I guess it’s a thing to do besides watching my plants grow.
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        pages like [this](https://www.dell.com/support/kbdoc/en-us/000123145/dell-g5-5505-performance-issues-during-intense-gpu-usage) also suggest things like updating the BIOS and the graphics card firmware with some AMD tool. And I’ve read several times you should try the kernel parameter `amdgpu.runpm=0`\n
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        Make sure to do all of that first. And observe if the freezes happen in certain circumstances. Maybe you can deduct something from that. Maybe it happens while gaming (GPU). Or when under load. Or if you move it around (loose connection), or when hot or after a certain time even if idle. Disable power management and see if that helps. Should be less effort than installing 5 operating systems. (If the crash isn’t super rare) And try using the [magic SysReq keys](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key) to force linux to sync and reboot to see if the kernel is still alive somehow.
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      Fortunately I updated my BIOS from windows before switching to Linux and as of recently, I still have the latest version.\n
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      I added `amdgpu.runpm=0` and that did increase stability considerably. My system froze up way less often which was great.\n
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      I also found that adding `processor.max_cstate=1` has made my system even more stable and I haven’t had a freeze up in days now. [This](https://gist.github.com/dlqqq/876d74d030f80dc899fc58a244b72df0) page gives a nice run down of what it does.\n
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      I wouldn’t be surprised if there is a freeze up in the future but overall my system has been a lot more stable making everything far more enjoyable.
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                If your laptop periodically freezes, switching distros won’t fix it.  \n
                Identifying the underlying issue (which is most likely a hardware defect) would be a better use of your time.  \n
                Your first step would be to try and reproduce the issue. See under what circumstances it happens. See if it happens from a live USB or only from your installed system (If it does, this eliminates the SSD as most probable culprit). Do a RAM test. Then ask for help with further trouble-shooting.
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              I’ve spoken to another user who has the same issue as me and they made a couple suggestions including disabling certain options in BIOS or trying a distribution with a newer kernel.\n
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              At first I thought it was issues with iGPU and dGPU switching but I’m beginning to suspect that’s not the case.\n
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              Reproducing when it freezes is a challenge because it’s very inconsistent and does not leave and crash reports.\n
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              The only improvement I’ve seen yet is switching from Linux Mint 21.2 to LMDE 6 but the kernel is still older compared to the versions that I was suggested for my hardware.\n
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              I would like to try a newer kernel just for the sake of trying.
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            I feel you. The bugs that get the machine to crash and you have zero chance of getting any useful debug information, are by far the most annoying ones.\n
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            In my experience it’s most of the time some driver issues in the kernel or the (NVidia) proprietary drivers. Or an hardware issue. On Debian I can install several kernel versions alongside each other. So there would be no need for me to install more than one distribution. Most of the times a proper crash isn’t caused by the userspace anyways, so it boils down to the different kernel versions and configurations anyways. You could also try an older kernel.
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          I have an AMD + AMD setup but apparently the Dell G5 series has issues with linux so it’s been an uphill challenge.\n
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          I did see that LMDE 6 makes it easy to boot different kernels at startup which is handy. I tried looking at Liquorix Kernel but I don’t think it’s ready for LMDE 6 just yet. I can’t recall exactly why but I got a big nope when trying to download it. I think I tried looking at the Zen Kernel as well but couldn’t figure out if it’s just for Arch or if it’s compatible with Debian.\n
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          Too much to learn and now enough hours or attention span. Slow progress but I guess it’s a thing to do besides watching my plants grow.
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        pages like [this](https://www.dell.com/support/kbdoc/en-us/000123145/dell-g5-5505-performance-issues-during-intense-gpu-usage) also suggest things like updating the BIOS and the graphics card firmware with some AMD tool. And I’ve read several times you should try the kernel parameter `amdgpu.runpm=0`\n
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        Make sure to do all of that first. And observe if the freezes happen in certain circumstances. Maybe you can deduct something from that. Maybe it happens while gaming (GPU). Or when under load. Or if you move it around (loose connection), or when hot or after a certain time even if idle. Disable power management and see if that helps. Should be less effort than installing 5 operating systems. (If the crash isn’t super rare) And try using the [magic SysReq keys](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key) to force linux to sync and reboot to see if the kernel is still alive somehow.
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      Fortunately I updated my BIOS from windows before switching to Linux and as of recently, I still have the latest version.\n
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      I added `amdgpu.runpm=0` and that did increase stability considerably. My system froze up way less often which was great.\n
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      I also found that adding `processor.max_cstate=1` has made my system even more stable and I haven’t had a freeze up in days now. [This](https://gist.github.com/dlqqq/876d74d030f80dc899fc58a244b72df0) page gives a nice run down of what it does.\n
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      I wouldn’t be surprised if there is a freeze up in the future but overall my system has been a lot more stable making everything far more enjoyable.
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                If your laptop periodically freezes, switching distros won’t fix it.  \n
                Identifying the underlying issue (which is most likely a hardware defect) would be a better use of your time.  \n
                Your first step would be to try and reproduce the issue. See under what circumstances it happens. See if it happens from a live USB or only from your installed system (If it does, this eliminates the SSD as most probable culprit). Do a RAM test. Then ask for help with further trouble-shooting.
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              I’ve spoken to another user who has the same issue as me and they made a couple suggestions including disabling certain options in BIOS or trying a distribution with a newer kernel.\n
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              At first I thought it was issues with iGPU and dGPU switching but I’m beginning to suspect that’s not the case.\n
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              Reproducing when it freezes is a challenge because it’s very inconsistent and does not leave and crash reports.\n
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              The only improvement I’ve seen yet is switching from Linux Mint 21.2 to LMDE 6 but the kernel is still older compared to the versions that I was suggested for my hardware.\n
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              I would like to try a newer kernel just for the sake of trying.
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            I feel you. The bugs that get the machine to crash and you have zero chance of getting any useful debug information, are by far the most annoying ones.\n
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            In my experience it’s most of the time some driver issues in the kernel or the (NVidia) proprietary drivers. Or an hardware issue. On Debian I can install several kernel versions alongside each other. So there would be no need for me to install more than one distribution. Most of the times a proper crash isn’t caused by the userspace anyways, so it boils down to the different kernel versions and configurations anyways. You could also try an older kernel.
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          I have an AMD + AMD setup but apparently the Dell G5 series has issues with linux so it’s been an uphill challenge.\n
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          I did see that LMDE 6 makes it easy to boot different kernels at startup which is handy. I tried looking at Liquorix Kernel but I don’t think it’s ready for LMDE 6 just yet. I can’t recall exactly why but I got a big nope when trying to download it. I think I tried looking at the Zen Kernel as well but couldn’t figure out if it’s just for Arch or if it’s compatible with Debian.\n
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          Too much to learn and now enough hours or attention span. Slow progress but I guess it’s a thing to do besides watching my plants grow.
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        pages like [this](https://www.dell.com/support/kbdoc/en-us/000123145/dell-g5-5505-performance-issues-during-intense-gpu-usage) also suggest things like updating the BIOS and the graphics card firmware with some AMD tool. And I’ve read several times you should try the kernel parameter `amdgpu.runpm=0`\n
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        Make sure to do all of that first. And observe if the freezes happen in certain circumstances. Maybe you can deduct something from that. Maybe it happens while gaming (GPU). Or when under load. Or if you move it around (loose connection), or when hot or after a certain time even if idle. Disable power management and see if that helps. Should be less effort than installing 5 operating systems. (If the crash isn’t super rare) And try using the [magic SysReq keys](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key) to force linux to sync and reboot to see if the kernel is still alive somehow.
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      Fortunately I updated my BIOS from windows before switching to Linux and as of recently, I still have the latest version.\n
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      I added `amdgpu.runpm=0` and that did increase stability considerably. My system froze up way less often which was great.\n
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      I also found that adding `processor.max_cstate=1` has made my system even more stable and I haven’t had a freeze up in days now. [This](https://gist.github.com/dlqqq/876d74d030f80dc899fc58a244b72df0) page gives a nice run down of what it does.\n
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      I wouldn’t be surprised if there is a freeze up in the future but overall my system has been a lot more stable making everything far more enjoyable.
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            If your laptop periodically freezes, switching distros won’t fix it.  \n
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          I’ve spoken to another user who has the same issue as me and they made a couple suggestions including disabling certain options in BIOS or trying a distribution with a newer kernel.\n
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          At first I thought it was issues with iGPU and dGPU switching but I’m beginning to suspect that’s not the case.\n
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        I feel you. The bugs that get the machine to crash and you have zero chance of getting any useful debug information, are by far the most annoying ones.\n
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        In my experience it’s most of the time some driver issues in the kernel or the (NVidia) proprietary drivers. Or an hardware issue. On Debian I can install several kernel versions alongside each other. So there would be no need for me to install more than one distribution. Most of the times a proper crash isn’t caused by the userspace anyways, so it boils down to the different kernel versions and configurations anyways. You could also try an older kernel.
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      I have an AMD + AMD setup but apparently the Dell G5 series has issues with linux so it’s been an uphill challenge.\n
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          I’ve spoken to another user who has the same issue as me and they made a couple suggestions including disabling certain options in BIOS or trying a distribution with a newer kernel.\n
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          At first I thought it was issues with iGPU and dGPU switching but I’m beginning to suspect that’s not the case.\n
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        I feel you. The bugs that get the machine to crash and you have zero chance of getting any useful debug information, are by far the most annoying ones.\n
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        In my experience it’s most of the time some driver issues in the kernel or the (NVidia) proprietary drivers. Or an hardware issue. On Debian I can install several kernel versions alongside each other. So there would be no need for me to install more than one distribution. Most of the times a proper crash isn’t caused by the userspace anyways, so it boils down to the different kernel versions and configurations anyways. You could also try an older kernel.
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      I have an AMD + AMD setup but apparently the Dell G5 series has issues with linux so it’s been an uphill challenge.\n
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      I did see that LMDE 6 makes it easy to boot different kernels at startup which is handy. I tried looking at Liquorix Kernel but I don’t think it’s ready for LMDE 6 just yet. I can’t recall exactly why but I got a big nope when trying to download it. I think I tried looking at the Zen Kernel as well but couldn’t figure out if it’s just for Arch or if it’s compatible with Debian.\n
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      Too much to learn and now enough hours or attention span. Slow progress but I guess it’s a thing to do besides watching my plants grow.
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            If your laptop periodically freezes, switching distros won’t fix it.  \n
            Identifying the underlying issue (which is most likely a hardware defect) would be a better use of your time.  \n
            Your first step would be to try and reproduce the issue. See under what circumstances it happens. See if it happens from a live USB or only from your installed system (If it does, this eliminates the SSD as most probable culprit). Do a RAM test. Then ask for help with further trouble-shooting.
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          I’ve spoken to another user who has the same issue as me and they made a couple suggestions including disabling certain options in BIOS or trying a distribution with a newer kernel.\n
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          At first I thought it was issues with iGPU and dGPU switching but I’m beginning to suspect that’s not the case.\n
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          Reproducing when it freezes is a challenge because it’s very inconsistent and does not leave and crash reports.\n
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          The only improvement I’ve seen yet is switching from Linux Mint 21.2 to LMDE 6 but the kernel is still older compared to the versions that I was suggested for my hardware.\n
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          I would like to try a newer kernel just for the sake of trying.
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        I feel you. The bugs that get the machine to crash and you have zero chance of getting any useful debug information, are by far the most annoying ones.\n
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        In my experience it’s most of the time some driver issues in the kernel or the (NVidia) proprietary drivers. Or an hardware issue. On Debian I can install several kernel versions alongside each other. So there would be no need for me to install more than one distribution. Most of the times a proper crash isn’t caused by the userspace anyways, so it boils down to the different kernel versions and configurations anyways. You could also try an older kernel.
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      I have an AMD + AMD setup but apparently the Dell G5 series has issues with linux so it’s been an uphill challenge.\n
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      I did see that LMDE 6 makes it easy to boot different kernels at startup which is handy. I tried looking at Liquorix Kernel but I don’t think it’s ready for LMDE 6 just yet. I can’t recall exactly why but I got a big nope when trying to download it. I think I tried looking at the Zen Kernel as well but couldn’t figure out if it’s just for Arch or if it’s compatible with Debian.\n
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      Too much to learn and now enough hours or attention span. Slow progress but I guess it’s a thing to do besides watching my plants grow.
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