GET https://kbin.spritesserver.nl/m/asklemmy@lemmy.ml/t/1294/Best-options-for-Non-Google-cloud-storage-as-of-2022

Response
200 OK
IP
216.73.216.122
Profiled on
Token
940d9c

Security

Token

There is no security token.

Firewall

main Name
Security enabled
Stateless

Configuration

Key Value
provider security.user.provider.concrete.app_user_provider
context main
entry_point App\Security\KbinAuthenticator
user_checker App\Security\UserChecker
access_denied_handler (none)
access_denied_url (none)
authenticators 
[
  "two_factor"
  "remember_me"
  "App\Security\KbinAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\FacebookAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\GoogleAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\GithubAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\KeycloakAuthenticator"
]

Listeners

Listener Duration Response 
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\ChannelListener {#723
  -map: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\AccessMap {#722 …}
  -logger: Monolog\Logger {#783 …}
  -httpPort: 80
  -httpsPort: 443
}
 0.00 ms (none) 
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\ContextListener {#706
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\TokenStorage {#1017 …}
  -sessionKey: "_security_main"
  -logger: Monolog\Logger {#783 …}
  -userProviders: Symfony\Component\DependencyInjection\Argument\RewindableGenerator {#705 …}
  -dispatcher: Symfony\Component\EventDispatcher\Debug\TraceableEventDispatcher {#747 …}
  -registered: false
  -trustResolver: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authentication\AuthenticationTrustResolver {#780 …}
  -sessionTrackerEnabler: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage::enableUsageTracking(): void {#703 …}
}
 31.45 ms (none) 
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\AuthenticatorManagerListener {#584
  -authenticatorManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Authentication\AuthenticatorManager {#595 …}
}
 0.00 ms (none) 
Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Http\Firewall\TwoFactorAccessListener {#582
  -twoFactorFirewallConfig: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\TwoFactor\TwoFactorFirewallConfig {#842 …}
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -twoFactorAccessDecider: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\TwoFactorAccessDecider {#581 …}
}
 0.08 ms (none) 
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\AccessListener {#579
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -accessDecisionManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\TraceableAccessDecisionManager {#937 …}
  -map: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\AccessMap {#722 …}
}
 0.01 ms (none) 
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\LogoutListener {#786
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -options: [
    "csrf_parameter" => "_csrf_token"
    "csrf_token_id" => "logout"
    "logout_path" => "app_logout"
  ]
  -httpUtils: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\HttpUtils {#841 …}
  -csrfTokenManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Csrf\CsrfTokenManager {#1015 …}
  -eventDispatcher: Symfony\Component\EventDispatcher\Debug\TraceableEventDispatcher {#747 …}
}
 0.00 ms (none)

Authenticators

No authenticators have been recorded. Check previous profiles on your authentication endpoint.

Access Decision

affirmative Strategy
# Voter class
1 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\AuthenticatedVoter"
2 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
3 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
4 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\ExpressionVoter"
5 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
6 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
7 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
8 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
9 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
10 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
11 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
12 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
13 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
14 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"

Access decision log

# Result Attributes Object
1 DENIED ROLE_USER 
null
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
2 DENIED moderate 
App\Entity\Entry {#2419
  +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#1970 …}
  +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265
    +icon: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#246 …}
    +name: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
    +title: "asklemmy"
    +description: """
      A loosely moderated place to ask open-ended questions\n
      \n
      **[Search asklemmy](https://lemmy.ml/search?q=&type=Posts&listingType=All&communityId=8&page=1&sort=TopAll) 🔍**\n
      \n
      If your post meets the following criteria, it’s welcome here!\n
      \n
      1. Open-ended\n
      2. Not offensive: at this point, we do not have the bandwidth to moderate overtly political discussions\n
      3. **Not regarding using or support for Lemmy**: [context](https://lemmy.ml/post/1223478), find help in the list of support alternatives below\n
      4. Not ad nauseam inducing: please make sure it is a question that would be new to most members\n
      5. [An actual topic of discussion](https://lemmy.ml/post/1239589)\n
      \n
      Support alternatives:\n
      \n
      - [!lemmy_support@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/lemmy_support)\n
      - [!nostupidlemmyquestions@lemmy.dbzer0.com](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/nostupidlemmyquestions)\n
      - [!selfhosted@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/selfhosted)\n
      \n
      ~Icon~ ~by~ ~@Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de~
      """
    +rules: null
    +subscriptionsCount: 0
    +entryCount: 580
    +entryCommentCount: 15558
    +postCount: 7
    +postCommentCount: 129
    +isAdult: false
    +customCss: null
    +lastActive: DateTime @1689748304 {#275
      date: 2023-07-19 08:31:44.0 +02:00
    }
    +markedForDeletionAt: null
    +tags: null
    +moderators: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#237 …}
    +ownershipRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#233 …}
    +moderatorRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#222 …}
    +entries: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#180 …}
    +posts: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#138 …}
    +subscriptions: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#200 …}
    +bans: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#117 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#103 …}
    +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#81 …}
    +logs: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#71 …}
    +awards: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1346 …}
    +categories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1823 …}
    -id: 9
    +apId: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
    +apProfileId: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
    +apPublicUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
    +apFollowersUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy/followers"
    +apInboxUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/inbox"
    +apDomain: "lemmy.ml"
    +apPreferredUsername: "asklemmy"
    +apDiscoverable: true
    +apManuallyApprovesFollowers: null
    +privateKey: null
    +publicKey: null
    +apFetchedAt: DateTime @1689747596 {#269
      date: 2023-07-19 08:19:56.0 +02:00
    }
    +apDeletedAt: null
    +apTimeoutAt: null
    +visibility: "visible             "
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1686889707 {#271
      date: 2023-06-16 06:28:27.0 +02:00
    }
  }
  +image: null
  +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#1915 …}
  +slug: "Best-options-for-Non-Google-cloud-storage-as-of-2022"
  +title: "Best options for Non-Google cloud storage as of 2022?"
  +url: null
  +body: """
    What are Lemmy’s feelings about the best cloud storage options these days, if you really want to break into the 1-2TB range? I’m not there yet, probably not even halfway there, but I like the peace of mind of potentially having the space if I need it. And I think subscribing to something in the Netflix price range is maybe something I’m ready for.\n
    \n
    My thoughts so far:\n
    \n
    [pcloud](https://www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime) - Intriguing because you can pay for a “lifetime” plan of 2TB of storage. But it’s $350, which is a lot, and I don’t know that I love the interface or usability, and I don’t know if I trust them.\n
    \n
    [iDrive](https://www.idrive.com/pricing) - Super affordable. 5tb for “just” $80/year. It might be the best deal, but nothing about their identity suggests to me that they are “good guys.” By which I mean, I’m not sure I trust them to make long-term promises for any specific plan.\n
    \n
    [Mega](https://mega.io/pro) - I like its very anti-google, very encrypted attitude. Born from the ashes of megaupload, they built encryption and zero knowledge into it. I LOVE that you can connect to it through the android app Solid Explorer and therefore don’t even need the mega app if you don’t want it. I hear bad things about it though? And it’s pretty expensive at $115 per year for 2TB.\n
    \n
    My personal thoughts/reasoning/caveats:\n
    \n
    **Homebrew stuff**: I don’t *quite* trust myself to use a homebrew setup like Nextcloud or Syncthing correctly. There’s too much in terms of labor, upkeep, catastrophic single points of failure where you could lose everything. I feel like I’m 70% of the way to being smart enough to do this.\n
    \n
    **Avoiding the Bad Guys and the Free Stuff**: I’ve tried the free version of just about everything, from Google to Onedrive to Dropbox to Mediafire to Mega. There’s even an android app that offers 1 free terrabyte?? But I don’t want something from the bad guys where I’m going to be integrated into their closed source death drap: Google, Amazon, Microsoft, Apple, and I don’t want a too-good-to-be-true free service where I’m the product.\n
    \n
    I also would prefer to avoid something from the upstarts who kinda-sorta imitate the bad guys: Dropbox, Mediafire, Box. Because I’m not sure how much I can trust any specific long term promise from them.\n
    \n
    **It sounds like you’re saying nothing is good enough! What exactly do you want!?** Something from good guys, not bad guys. Something like [Standardnotes](https://standardnotes.com/), but for file storage. They emphasize privacy, good governance principles and longevity of their service. Or [Linode](https://www.linode.com/support-experience/), with their independence, sense of mission, love of Linux & free software, all of which tells me they are good guys.\n
    \n
    Probably the correct answer is (1) here’s this magical perfect source I never thought of, or (2) I’m thinking this much about it, I should probably do Nextcloud or syncthing given all the constraints that I’m putting out there.\n
    \n
    Anyway, that’s my thoughts on cloud storage. What are yours?
    """
  +type: "article"
  +lang: "en"
  +isOc: false
  +hasEmbed: false
  +commentCount: 25
  +favouriteCount: 41
  +score: 0
  +isAdult: false
  +sticky: false
  +lastActive: DateTime @1689719793 {#2414
    date: 2023-07-19 00:36:33.0 +02:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +adaAmount: 0
  +tags: null
  +mentions: null
  +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1884 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1973 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1959 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1927 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2442 …}
  +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2440 …}
  +children: []
  -id: 1294
  -titleTs: "'2022':11 'best':1 'cloud':7 'googl':6 'non':5 'non-googl':4 'option':2 'storag':8"
  -bodyTs: "'-2':23 '/),':451 '/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':77 '/pricing)':123 '/pro)':173 '/support-experience/),':471 '1':22,337,497 '115':240 '2':509 '2tb':88,244 '350':94 '5tb':126 '70':290 '80/year':129 'afford':125 'also':387 'amazon':364 'android':208,333 'answer':495 'anti':179 'anti-googl':178 'anyway':534 'app':209,220,334 'appl':366 'ash':187 'attitud':183 'avoid':301,391 'bad':229,303,348,402,444 'best':8,134 'born':184 'box':406 'break':19 'built':191 'catastroph':275 'close':359 'cloud':9,540 'connect':203 'constraint':527 'correct':265,494 'could':282 'day':13 'deal':135 'death':361 'drap':362 'dropbox':324,404 'emphas':457 'encrypt':182,192 'enough':297,433 'even':33,216,331 'everyth':284,318 'exact':435 'expens':238 'explor':211 'failur':279 'far':73 'feel':5,286 'file':454 'free':307,313,338,379,481 'given':524 'go':353 'good':147,375,432,441,459,490 'googl':180,320,363 'govern':460 'guy':148,304,349,403,442,445,491 'halfway':34 'hear':228 'homebrew':248,259 'ident':140 'idriv':120 'imit':400 'independ':474 'integr':356 'interfac':108 'intrigu':78 'kinda':398 'kinda-sorta':397 'know':103,115 'knowledg':195 'labor':273 'lemmi':3 'lifetim':85 'like':38,175,261,287,426,447 'linod':468 'linux':480 'long':163,419 'long-term':162 'longev':463 'lose':283 'lot':98 'love':106,199,478 'm':27,67,154,289,352,383,409,511,530 'magic':501 'make':161 'mayb':64 'mean':152 'mediafir':326,405 'mega':170,219,328 'mega.io':172 'mega.io/pro)':171 'megaupload':189 'microsoft':365 'might':131 'mind':42 'mission':477 'much':269,413,514 'need':50,217 'netflix':60 'never':505 'nextcloud':262,521 'noth':137,430 'offer':336 'onedr':322 'option':11 'pay':82 'pcloud':74 'peac':40 'per':241 'perfect':502 'person':246 'plan':86,169 'point':277 'potenti':44 'prefer':389 'pretti':237 'price':61 'principl':461 'privaci':458 'probabl':31,492,519 'product':385 'promis':165,421 'put':531 'quit':253 'rang':25,62 're':428 'readi':68 'realli':16 'say':429 'sens':475 'servic':380,466 'setup':260 'singl':276 'smart':296 'softwar':482 'solid':210 'someth':57,65,345,392,439,446 'sorta':399 'sound':425 'sourc':360,503 'space':47 'specif':168,418 'standardnot':448 'standardnotes.com':450 'standardnotes.com/),':449 'storag':10,90,455,541 'stuff':249,308 'subscrib':55 'suggest':141 'super':124 'sure':156,411 'syncth':264,523 'tb':24 'tell':486 'term':164,271,420 'terrabyt':339 'therefor':213 'thing':230 'think':54,512 'though':233 'thought':71,506,538 'thoughts/reasoning/caveats':247 'too-good-to-be-tru':373 'tri':311 'true':378 'trust':118,158,254,416 'upkeep':274 'upstart':395 'usabl':110 'use':257 've':310 'version':314 'want':17,225,344,371,438 'way':293 'would':388 'www.idrive.com':122 'www.idrive.com/pricing)':121 'www.linode.com':470 'www.linode.com/support-experience/),':469 'www.pcloud.com':76 'www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':75 'year':242 'yet':30 'zero':194"
  +cross: false
  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +ranking: 1642260128
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://lemmy.ml/post/149005"
  +editedAt: null
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1642173728 {#1793
    date: 2022-01-14 16:22:08.0 +01:00
  }
}
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
3 DENIED edit 
App\Entity\Entry {#2419
  +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#1970 …}
  +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265
    +icon: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#246 …}
    +name: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
    +title: "asklemmy"
    +description: """
      A loosely moderated place to ask open-ended questions\n
      \n
      **[Search asklemmy](https://lemmy.ml/search?q=&type=Posts&listingType=All&communityId=8&page=1&sort=TopAll) 🔍**\n
      \n
      If your post meets the following criteria, it’s welcome here!\n
      \n
      1. Open-ended\n
      2. Not offensive: at this point, we do not have the bandwidth to moderate overtly political discussions\n
      3. **Not regarding using or support for Lemmy**: [context](https://lemmy.ml/post/1223478), find help in the list of support alternatives below\n
      4. Not ad nauseam inducing: please make sure it is a question that would be new to most members\n
      5. [An actual topic of discussion](https://lemmy.ml/post/1239589)\n
      \n
      Support alternatives:\n
      \n
      - [!lemmy_support@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/lemmy_support)\n
      - [!nostupidlemmyquestions@lemmy.dbzer0.com](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/nostupidlemmyquestions)\n
      - [!selfhosted@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/selfhosted)\n
      \n
      ~Icon~ ~by~ ~@Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de~
      """
    +rules: null
    +subscriptionsCount: 0
    +entryCount: 580
    +entryCommentCount: 15558
    +postCount: 7
    +postCommentCount: 129
    +isAdult: false
    +customCss: null
    +lastActive: DateTime @1689748304 {#275
      date: 2023-07-19 08:31:44.0 +02:00
    }
    +markedForDeletionAt: null
    +tags: null
    +moderators: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#237 …}
    +ownershipRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#233 …}
    +moderatorRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#222 …}
    +entries: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#180 …}
    +posts: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#138 …}
    +subscriptions: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#200 …}
    +bans: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#117 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#103 …}
    +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#81 …}
    +logs: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#71 …}
    +awards: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1346 …}
    +categories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1823 …}
    -id: 9
    +apId: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
    +apProfileId: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
    +apPublicUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
    +apFollowersUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy/followers"
    +apInboxUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/inbox"
    +apDomain: "lemmy.ml"
    +apPreferredUsername: "asklemmy"
    +apDiscoverable: true
    +apManuallyApprovesFollowers: null
    +privateKey: null
    +publicKey: null
    +apFetchedAt: DateTime @1689747596 {#269
      date: 2023-07-19 08:19:56.0 +02:00
    }
    +apDeletedAt: null
    +apTimeoutAt: null
    +visibility: "visible             "
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1686889707 {#271
      date: 2023-06-16 06:28:27.0 +02:00
    }
  }
  +image: null
  +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#1915 …}
  +slug: "Best-options-for-Non-Google-cloud-storage-as-of-2022"
  +title: "Best options for Non-Google cloud storage as of 2022?"
  +url: null
  +body: """
    What are Lemmy’s feelings about the best cloud storage options these days, if you really want to break into the 1-2TB range? I’m not there yet, probably not even halfway there, but I like the peace of mind of potentially having the space if I need it. And I think subscribing to something in the Netflix price range is maybe something I’m ready for.\n
    \n
    My thoughts so far:\n
    \n
    [pcloud](https://www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime) - Intriguing because you can pay for a “lifetime” plan of 2TB of storage. But it’s $350, which is a lot, and I don’t know that I love the interface or usability, and I don’t know if I trust them.\n
    \n
    [iDrive](https://www.idrive.com/pricing) - Super affordable. 5tb for “just” $80/year. It might be the best deal, but nothing about their identity suggests to me that they are “good guys.” By which I mean, I’m not sure I trust them to make long-term promises for any specific plan.\n
    \n
    [Mega](https://mega.io/pro) - I like its very anti-google, very encrypted attitude. Born from the ashes of megaupload, they built encryption and zero knowledge into it. I LOVE that you can connect to it through the android app Solid Explorer and therefore don’t even need the mega app if you don’t want it. I hear bad things about it though? And it’s pretty expensive at $115 per year for 2TB.\n
    \n
    My personal thoughts/reasoning/caveats:\n
    \n
    **Homebrew stuff**: I don’t *quite* trust myself to use a homebrew setup like Nextcloud or Syncthing correctly. There’s too much in terms of labor, upkeep, catastrophic single points of failure where you could lose everything. I feel like I’m 70% of the way to being smart enough to do this.\n
    \n
    **Avoiding the Bad Guys and the Free Stuff**: I’ve tried the free version of just about everything, from Google to Onedrive to Dropbox to Mediafire to Mega. There’s even an android app that offers 1 free terrabyte?? But I don’t want something from the bad guys where I’m going to be integrated into their closed source death drap: Google, Amazon, Microsoft, Apple, and I don’t want a too-good-to-be-true free service where I’m the product.\n
    \n
    I also would prefer to avoid something from the upstarts who kinda-sorta imitate the bad guys: Dropbox, Mediafire, Box. Because I’m not sure how much I can trust any specific long term promise from them.\n
    \n
    **It sounds like you’re saying nothing is good enough! What exactly do you want!?** Something from good guys, not bad guys. Something like [Standardnotes](https://standardnotes.com/), but for file storage. They emphasize privacy, good governance principles and longevity of their service. Or [Linode](https://www.linode.com/support-experience/), with their independence, sense of mission, love of Linux & free software, all of which tells me they are good guys.\n
    \n
    Probably the correct answer is (1) here’s this magical perfect source I never thought of, or (2) I’m thinking this much about it, I should probably do Nextcloud or syncthing given all the constraints that I’m putting out there.\n
    \n
    Anyway, that’s my thoughts on cloud storage. What are yours?
    """
  +type: "article"
  +lang: "en"
  +isOc: false
  +hasEmbed: false
  +commentCount: 25
  +favouriteCount: 41
  +score: 0
  +isAdult: false
  +sticky: false
  +lastActive: DateTime @1689719793 {#2414
    date: 2023-07-19 00:36:33.0 +02:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +adaAmount: 0
  +tags: null
  +mentions: null
  +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1884 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1973 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1959 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1927 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2442 …}
  +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2440 …}
  +children: []
  -id: 1294
  -titleTs: "'2022':11 'best':1 'cloud':7 'googl':6 'non':5 'non-googl':4 'option':2 'storag':8"
  -bodyTs: "'-2':23 '/),':451 '/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':77 '/pricing)':123 '/pro)':173 '/support-experience/),':471 '1':22,337,497 '115':240 '2':509 '2tb':88,244 '350':94 '5tb':126 '70':290 '80/year':129 'afford':125 'also':387 'amazon':364 'android':208,333 'answer':495 'anti':179 'anti-googl':178 'anyway':534 'app':209,220,334 'appl':366 'ash':187 'attitud':183 'avoid':301,391 'bad':229,303,348,402,444 'best':8,134 'born':184 'box':406 'break':19 'built':191 'catastroph':275 'close':359 'cloud':9,540 'connect':203 'constraint':527 'correct':265,494 'could':282 'day':13 'deal':135 'death':361 'drap':362 'dropbox':324,404 'emphas':457 'encrypt':182,192 'enough':297,433 'even':33,216,331 'everyth':284,318 'exact':435 'expens':238 'explor':211 'failur':279 'far':73 'feel':5,286 'file':454 'free':307,313,338,379,481 'given':524 'go':353 'good':147,375,432,441,459,490 'googl':180,320,363 'govern':460 'guy':148,304,349,403,442,445,491 'halfway':34 'hear':228 'homebrew':248,259 'ident':140 'idriv':120 'imit':400 'independ':474 'integr':356 'interfac':108 'intrigu':78 'kinda':398 'kinda-sorta':397 'know':103,115 'knowledg':195 'labor':273 'lemmi':3 'lifetim':85 'like':38,175,261,287,426,447 'linod':468 'linux':480 'long':163,419 'long-term':162 'longev':463 'lose':283 'lot':98 'love':106,199,478 'm':27,67,154,289,352,383,409,511,530 'magic':501 'make':161 'mayb':64 'mean':152 'mediafir':326,405 'mega':170,219,328 'mega.io':172 'mega.io/pro)':171 'megaupload':189 'microsoft':365 'might':131 'mind':42 'mission':477 'much':269,413,514 'need':50,217 'netflix':60 'never':505 'nextcloud':262,521 'noth':137,430 'offer':336 'onedr':322 'option':11 'pay':82 'pcloud':74 'peac':40 'per':241 'perfect':502 'person':246 'plan':86,169 'point':277 'potenti':44 'prefer':389 'pretti':237 'price':61 'principl':461 'privaci':458 'probabl':31,492,519 'product':385 'promis':165,421 'put':531 'quit':253 'rang':25,62 're':428 'readi':68 'realli':16 'say':429 'sens':475 'servic':380,466 'setup':260 'singl':276 'smart':296 'softwar':482 'solid':210 'someth':57,65,345,392,439,446 'sorta':399 'sound':425 'sourc':360,503 'space':47 'specif':168,418 'standardnot':448 'standardnotes.com':450 'standardnotes.com/),':449 'storag':10,90,455,541 'stuff':249,308 'subscrib':55 'suggest':141 'super':124 'sure':156,411 'syncth':264,523 'tb':24 'tell':486 'term':164,271,420 'terrabyt':339 'therefor':213 'thing':230 'think':54,512 'though':233 'thought':71,506,538 'thoughts/reasoning/caveats':247 'too-good-to-be-tru':373 'tri':311 'true':378 'trust':118,158,254,416 'upkeep':274 'upstart':395 'usabl':110 'use':257 've':310 'version':314 'want':17,225,344,371,438 'way':293 'would':388 'www.idrive.com':122 'www.idrive.com/pricing)':121 'www.linode.com':470 'www.linode.com/support-experience/),':469 'www.pcloud.com':76 'www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':75 'year':242 'yet':30 'zero':194"
  +cross: false
  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +ranking: 1642260128
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://lemmy.ml/post/149005"
  +editedAt: null
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1642173728 {#1793
    date: 2022-01-14 16:22:08.0 +01:00
  }
}
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
4 DENIED moderate 
App\Entity\Entry {#2419
  +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#1970 …}
  +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265
    +icon: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#246 …}
    +name: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
    +title: "asklemmy"
    +description: """
      A loosely moderated place to ask open-ended questions\n
      \n
      **[Search asklemmy](https://lemmy.ml/search?q=&type=Posts&listingType=All&communityId=8&page=1&sort=TopAll) 🔍**\n
      \n
      If your post meets the following criteria, it’s welcome here!\n
      \n
      1. Open-ended\n
      2. Not offensive: at this point, we do not have the bandwidth to moderate overtly political discussions\n
      3. **Not regarding using or support for Lemmy**: [context](https://lemmy.ml/post/1223478), find help in the list of support alternatives below\n
      4. Not ad nauseam inducing: please make sure it is a question that would be new to most members\n
      5. [An actual topic of discussion](https://lemmy.ml/post/1239589)\n
      \n
      Support alternatives:\n
      \n
      - [!lemmy_support@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/lemmy_support)\n
      - [!nostupidlemmyquestions@lemmy.dbzer0.com](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/nostupidlemmyquestions)\n
      - [!selfhosted@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/selfhosted)\n
      \n
      ~Icon~ ~by~ ~@Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de~
      """
    +rules: null
    +subscriptionsCount: 0
    +entryCount: 580
    +entryCommentCount: 15558
    +postCount: 7
    +postCommentCount: 129
    +isAdult: false
    +customCss: null
    +lastActive: DateTime @1689748304 {#275
      date: 2023-07-19 08:31:44.0 +02:00
    }
    +markedForDeletionAt: null
    +tags: null
    +moderators: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#237 …}
    +ownershipRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#233 …}
    +moderatorRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#222 …}
    +entries: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#180 …}
    +posts: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#138 …}
    +subscriptions: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#200 …}
    +bans: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#117 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#103 …}
    +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#81 …}
    +logs: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#71 …}
    +awards: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1346 …}
    +categories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1823 …}
    -id: 9
    +apId: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
    +apProfileId: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
    +apPublicUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
    +apFollowersUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy/followers"
    +apInboxUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/inbox"
    +apDomain: "lemmy.ml"
    +apPreferredUsername: "asklemmy"
    +apDiscoverable: true
    +apManuallyApprovesFollowers: null
    +privateKey: null
    +publicKey: null
    +apFetchedAt: DateTime @1689747596 {#269
      date: 2023-07-19 08:19:56.0 +02:00
    }
    +apDeletedAt: null
    +apTimeoutAt: null
    +visibility: "visible             "
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1686889707 {#271
      date: 2023-06-16 06:28:27.0 +02:00
    }
  }
  +image: null
  +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#1915 …}
  +slug: "Best-options-for-Non-Google-cloud-storage-as-of-2022"
  +title: "Best options for Non-Google cloud storage as of 2022?"
  +url: null
  +body: """
    What are Lemmy’s feelings about the best cloud storage options these days, if you really want to break into the 1-2TB range? I’m not there yet, probably not even halfway there, but I like the peace of mind of potentially having the space if I need it. And I think subscribing to something in the Netflix price range is maybe something I’m ready for.\n
    \n
    My thoughts so far:\n
    \n
    [pcloud](https://www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime) - Intriguing because you can pay for a “lifetime” plan of 2TB of storage. But it’s $350, which is a lot, and I don’t know that I love the interface or usability, and I don’t know if I trust them.\n
    \n
    [iDrive](https://www.idrive.com/pricing) - Super affordable. 5tb for “just” $80/year. It might be the best deal, but nothing about their identity suggests to me that they are “good guys.” By which I mean, I’m not sure I trust them to make long-term promises for any specific plan.\n
    \n
    [Mega](https://mega.io/pro) - I like its very anti-google, very encrypted attitude. Born from the ashes of megaupload, they built encryption and zero knowledge into it. I LOVE that you can connect to it through the android app Solid Explorer and therefore don’t even need the mega app if you don’t want it. I hear bad things about it though? And it’s pretty expensive at $115 per year for 2TB.\n
    \n
    My personal thoughts/reasoning/caveats:\n
    \n
    **Homebrew stuff**: I don’t *quite* trust myself to use a homebrew setup like Nextcloud or Syncthing correctly. There’s too much in terms of labor, upkeep, catastrophic single points of failure where you could lose everything. I feel like I’m 70% of the way to being smart enough to do this.\n
    \n
    **Avoiding the Bad Guys and the Free Stuff**: I’ve tried the free version of just about everything, from Google to Onedrive to Dropbox to Mediafire to Mega. There’s even an android app that offers 1 free terrabyte?? But I don’t want something from the bad guys where I’m going to be integrated into their closed source death drap: Google, Amazon, Microsoft, Apple, and I don’t want a too-good-to-be-true free service where I’m the product.\n
    \n
    I also would prefer to avoid something from the upstarts who kinda-sorta imitate the bad guys: Dropbox, Mediafire, Box. Because I’m not sure how much I can trust any specific long term promise from them.\n
    \n
    **It sounds like you’re saying nothing is good enough! What exactly do you want!?** Something from good guys, not bad guys. Something like [Standardnotes](https://standardnotes.com/), but for file storage. They emphasize privacy, good governance principles and longevity of their service. Or [Linode](https://www.linode.com/support-experience/), with their independence, sense of mission, love of Linux & free software, all of which tells me they are good guys.\n
    \n
    Probably the correct answer is (1) here’s this magical perfect source I never thought of, or (2) I’m thinking this much about it, I should probably do Nextcloud or syncthing given all the constraints that I’m putting out there.\n
    \n
    Anyway, that’s my thoughts on cloud storage. What are yours?
    """
  +type: "article"
  +lang: "en"
  +isOc: false
  +hasEmbed: false
  +commentCount: 25
  +favouriteCount: 41
  +score: 0
  +isAdult: false
  +sticky: false
  +lastActive: DateTime @1689719793 {#2414
    date: 2023-07-19 00:36:33.0 +02:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +adaAmount: 0
  +tags: null
  +mentions: null
  +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1884 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1973 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1959 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1927 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2442 …}
  +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2440 …}
  +children: []
  -id: 1294
  -titleTs: "'2022':11 'best':1 'cloud':7 'googl':6 'non':5 'non-googl':4 'option':2 'storag':8"
  -bodyTs: "'-2':23 '/),':451 '/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':77 '/pricing)':123 '/pro)':173 '/support-experience/),':471 '1':22,337,497 '115':240 '2':509 '2tb':88,244 '350':94 '5tb':126 '70':290 '80/year':129 'afford':125 'also':387 'amazon':364 'android':208,333 'answer':495 'anti':179 'anti-googl':178 'anyway':534 'app':209,220,334 'appl':366 'ash':187 'attitud':183 'avoid':301,391 'bad':229,303,348,402,444 'best':8,134 'born':184 'box':406 'break':19 'built':191 'catastroph':275 'close':359 'cloud':9,540 'connect':203 'constraint':527 'correct':265,494 'could':282 'day':13 'deal':135 'death':361 'drap':362 'dropbox':324,404 'emphas':457 'encrypt':182,192 'enough':297,433 'even':33,216,331 'everyth':284,318 'exact':435 'expens':238 'explor':211 'failur':279 'far':73 'feel':5,286 'file':454 'free':307,313,338,379,481 'given':524 'go':353 'good':147,375,432,441,459,490 'googl':180,320,363 'govern':460 'guy':148,304,349,403,442,445,491 'halfway':34 'hear':228 'homebrew':248,259 'ident':140 'idriv':120 'imit':400 'independ':474 'integr':356 'interfac':108 'intrigu':78 'kinda':398 'kinda-sorta':397 'know':103,115 'knowledg':195 'labor':273 'lemmi':3 'lifetim':85 'like':38,175,261,287,426,447 'linod':468 'linux':480 'long':163,419 'long-term':162 'longev':463 'lose':283 'lot':98 'love':106,199,478 'm':27,67,154,289,352,383,409,511,530 'magic':501 'make':161 'mayb':64 'mean':152 'mediafir':326,405 'mega':170,219,328 'mega.io':172 'mega.io/pro)':171 'megaupload':189 'microsoft':365 'might':131 'mind':42 'mission':477 'much':269,413,514 'need':50,217 'netflix':60 'never':505 'nextcloud':262,521 'noth':137,430 'offer':336 'onedr':322 'option':11 'pay':82 'pcloud':74 'peac':40 'per':241 'perfect':502 'person':246 'plan':86,169 'point':277 'potenti':44 'prefer':389 'pretti':237 'price':61 'principl':461 'privaci':458 'probabl':31,492,519 'product':385 'promis':165,421 'put':531 'quit':253 'rang':25,62 're':428 'readi':68 'realli':16 'say':429 'sens':475 'servic':380,466 'setup':260 'singl':276 'smart':296 'softwar':482 'solid':210 'someth':57,65,345,392,439,446 'sorta':399 'sound':425 'sourc':360,503 'space':47 'specif':168,418 'standardnot':448 'standardnotes.com':450 'standardnotes.com/),':449 'storag':10,90,455,541 'stuff':249,308 'subscrib':55 'suggest':141 'super':124 'sure':156,411 'syncth':264,523 'tb':24 'tell':486 'term':164,271,420 'terrabyt':339 'therefor':213 'thing':230 'think':54,512 'though':233 'thought':71,506,538 'thoughts/reasoning/caveats':247 'too-good-to-be-tru':373 'tri':311 'true':378 'trust':118,158,254,416 'upkeep':274 'upstart':395 'usabl':110 'use':257 've':310 'version':314 'want':17,225,344,371,438 'way':293 'would':388 'www.idrive.com':122 'www.idrive.com/pricing)':121 'www.linode.com':470 'www.linode.com/support-experience/),':469 'www.pcloud.com':76 'www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':75 'year':242 'yet':30 'zero':194"
  +cross: false
  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +ranking: 1642260128
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://lemmy.ml/post/149005"
  +editedAt: null
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1642173728 {#1793
    date: 2022-01-14 16:22:08.0 +01:00
  }
}
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
5 DENIED ROLE_USER 
null
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
6 DENIED moderate 
App\Entity\EntryComment {#4102
  +user: App\Entity\User {#4050 …}
  +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419
    +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#1970 …}
    +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265
      +icon: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#246 …}
      +name: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +title: "asklemmy"
      +description: """
        A loosely moderated place to ask open-ended questions\n
        \n
        **[Search asklemmy](https://lemmy.ml/search?q=&type=Posts&listingType=All&communityId=8&page=1&sort=TopAll) 🔍**\n
        \n
        If your post meets the following criteria, it’s welcome here!\n
        \n
        1. Open-ended\n
        2. Not offensive: at this point, we do not have the bandwidth to moderate overtly political discussions\n
        3. **Not regarding using or support for Lemmy**: [context](https://lemmy.ml/post/1223478), find help in the list of support alternatives below\n
        4. Not ad nauseam inducing: please make sure it is a question that would be new to most members\n
        5. [An actual topic of discussion](https://lemmy.ml/post/1239589)\n
        \n
        Support alternatives:\n
        \n
        - [!lemmy_support@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/lemmy_support)\n
        - [!nostupidlemmyquestions@lemmy.dbzer0.com](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/nostupidlemmyquestions)\n
        - [!selfhosted@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/selfhosted)\n
        \n
        ~Icon~ ~by~ ~@Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de~
        """
      +rules: null
      +subscriptionsCount: 0
      +entryCount: 580
      +entryCommentCount: 15558
      +postCount: 7
      +postCommentCount: 129
      +isAdult: false
      +customCss: null
      +lastActive: DateTime @1689748304 {#275
        date: 2023-07-19 08:31:44.0 +02:00
      }
      +markedForDeletionAt: null
      +tags: null
      +moderators: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#237 …}
      +ownershipRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#233 …}
      +moderatorRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#222 …}
      +entries: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#180 …}
      +posts: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#138 …}
      +subscriptions: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#200 …}
      +bans: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#117 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#103 …}
      +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#81 …}
      +logs: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#71 …}
      +awards: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1346 …}
      +categories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1823 …}
      -id: 9
      +apId: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +apProfileId: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apPublicUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apFollowersUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy/followers"
      +apInboxUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/inbox"
      +apDomain: "lemmy.ml"
      +apPreferredUsername: "asklemmy"
      +apDiscoverable: true
      +apManuallyApprovesFollowers: null
      +privateKey: null
      +publicKey: null
      +apFetchedAt: DateTime @1689747596 {#269
        date: 2023-07-19 08:19:56.0 +02:00
      }
      +apDeletedAt: null
      +apTimeoutAt: null
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1686889707 {#271
        date: 2023-06-16 06:28:27.0 +02:00
      }
    }
    +image: null
    +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#1915 …}
    +slug: "Best-options-for-Non-Google-cloud-storage-as-of-2022"
    +title: "Best options for Non-Google cloud storage as of 2022?"
    +url: null
    +body: """
      What are Lemmy’s feelings about the best cloud storage options these days, if you really want to break into the 1-2TB range? I’m not there yet, probably not even halfway there, but I like the peace of mind of potentially having the space if I need it. And I think subscribing to something in the Netflix price range is maybe something I’m ready for.\n
      \n
      My thoughts so far:\n
      \n
      [pcloud](https://www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime) - Intriguing because you can pay for a “lifetime” plan of 2TB of storage. But it’s $350, which is a lot, and I don’t know that I love the interface or usability, and I don’t know if I trust them.\n
      \n
      [iDrive](https://www.idrive.com/pricing) - Super affordable. 5tb for “just” $80/year. It might be the best deal, but nothing about their identity suggests to me that they are “good guys.” By which I mean, I’m not sure I trust them to make long-term promises for any specific plan.\n
      \n
      [Mega](https://mega.io/pro) - I like its very anti-google, very encrypted attitude. Born from the ashes of megaupload, they built encryption and zero knowledge into it. I LOVE that you can connect to it through the android app Solid Explorer and therefore don’t even need the mega app if you don’t want it. I hear bad things about it though? And it’s pretty expensive at $115 per year for 2TB.\n
      \n
      My personal thoughts/reasoning/caveats:\n
      \n
      **Homebrew stuff**: I don’t *quite* trust myself to use a homebrew setup like Nextcloud or Syncthing correctly. There’s too much in terms of labor, upkeep, catastrophic single points of failure where you could lose everything. I feel like I’m 70% of the way to being smart enough to do this.\n
      \n
      **Avoiding the Bad Guys and the Free Stuff**: I’ve tried the free version of just about everything, from Google to Onedrive to Dropbox to Mediafire to Mega. There’s even an android app that offers 1 free terrabyte?? But I don’t want something from the bad guys where I’m going to be integrated into their closed source death drap: Google, Amazon, Microsoft, Apple, and I don’t want a too-good-to-be-true free service where I’m the product.\n
      \n
      I also would prefer to avoid something from the upstarts who kinda-sorta imitate the bad guys: Dropbox, Mediafire, Box. Because I’m not sure how much I can trust any specific long term promise from them.\n
      \n
      **It sounds like you’re saying nothing is good enough! What exactly do you want!?** Something from good guys, not bad guys. Something like [Standardnotes](https://standardnotes.com/), but for file storage. They emphasize privacy, good governance principles and longevity of their service. Or [Linode](https://www.linode.com/support-experience/), with their independence, sense of mission, love of Linux & free software, all of which tells me they are good guys.\n
      \n
      Probably the correct answer is (1) here’s this magical perfect source I never thought of, or (2) I’m thinking this much about it, I should probably do Nextcloud or syncthing given all the constraints that I’m putting out there.\n
      \n
      Anyway, that’s my thoughts on cloud storage. What are yours?
      """
    +type: "article"
    +lang: "en"
    +isOc: false
    +hasEmbed: false
    +commentCount: 25
    +favouriteCount: 41
    +score: 0
    +isAdult: false
    +sticky: false
    +lastActive: DateTime @1689719793 {#2414
      date: 2023-07-19 00:36:33.0 +02:00
    }
    +ip: null
    +adaAmount: 0
    +tags: null
    +mentions: null
    +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1884 …}
    +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1973 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1959 …}
    +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1927 …}
    +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2442 …}
    +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2440 …}
    +children: []
    -id: 1294
    -titleTs: "'2022':11 'best':1 'cloud':7 'googl':6 'non':5 'non-googl':4 'option':2 'storag':8"
    -bodyTs: "'-2':23 '/),':451 '/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':77 '/pricing)':123 '/pro)':173 '/support-experience/),':471 '1':22,337,497 '115':240 '2':509 '2tb':88,244 '350':94 '5tb':126 '70':290 '80/year':129 'afford':125 'also':387 'amazon':364 'android':208,333 'answer':495 'anti':179 'anti-googl':178 'anyway':534 'app':209,220,334 'appl':366 'ash':187 'attitud':183 'avoid':301,391 'bad':229,303,348,402,444 'best':8,134 'born':184 'box':406 'break':19 'built':191 'catastroph':275 'close':359 'cloud':9,540 'connect':203 'constraint':527 'correct':265,494 'could':282 'day':13 'deal':135 'death':361 'drap':362 'dropbox':324,404 'emphas':457 'encrypt':182,192 'enough':297,433 'even':33,216,331 'everyth':284,318 'exact':435 'expens':238 'explor':211 'failur':279 'far':73 'feel':5,286 'file':454 'free':307,313,338,379,481 'given':524 'go':353 'good':147,375,432,441,459,490 'googl':180,320,363 'govern':460 'guy':148,304,349,403,442,445,491 'halfway':34 'hear':228 'homebrew':248,259 'ident':140 'idriv':120 'imit':400 'independ':474 'integr':356 'interfac':108 'intrigu':78 'kinda':398 'kinda-sorta':397 'know':103,115 'knowledg':195 'labor':273 'lemmi':3 'lifetim':85 'like':38,175,261,287,426,447 'linod':468 'linux':480 'long':163,419 'long-term':162 'longev':463 'lose':283 'lot':98 'love':106,199,478 'm':27,67,154,289,352,383,409,511,530 'magic':501 'make':161 'mayb':64 'mean':152 'mediafir':326,405 'mega':170,219,328 'mega.io':172 'mega.io/pro)':171 'megaupload':189 'microsoft':365 'might':131 'mind':42 'mission':477 'much':269,413,514 'need':50,217 'netflix':60 'never':505 'nextcloud':262,521 'noth':137,430 'offer':336 'onedr':322 'option':11 'pay':82 'pcloud':74 'peac':40 'per':241 'perfect':502 'person':246 'plan':86,169 'point':277 'potenti':44 'prefer':389 'pretti':237 'price':61 'principl':461 'privaci':458 'probabl':31,492,519 'product':385 'promis':165,421 'put':531 'quit':253 'rang':25,62 're':428 'readi':68 'realli':16 'say':429 'sens':475 'servic':380,466 'setup':260 'singl':276 'smart':296 'softwar':482 'solid':210 'someth':57,65,345,392,439,446 'sorta':399 'sound':425 'sourc':360,503 'space':47 'specif':168,418 'standardnot':448 'standardnotes.com':450 'standardnotes.com/),':449 'storag':10,90,455,541 'stuff':249,308 'subscrib':55 'suggest':141 'super':124 'sure':156,411 'syncth':264,523 'tb':24 'tell':486 'term':164,271,420 'terrabyt':339 'therefor':213 'thing':230 'think':54,512 'though':233 'thought':71,506,538 'thoughts/reasoning/caveats':247 'too-good-to-be-tru':373 'tri':311 'true':378 'trust':118,158,254,416 'upkeep':274 'upstart':395 'usabl':110 'use':257 've':310 'version':314 'want':17,225,344,371,438 'way':293 'would':388 'www.idrive.com':122 'www.idrive.com/pricing)':121 'www.linode.com':470 'www.linode.com/support-experience/),':469 'www.pcloud.com':76 'www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':75 'year':242 'yet':30 'zero':194"
    +cross: false
    +upVotes: 0
    +downVotes: 0
    +ranking: 1642260128
    +visibility: "visible             "
    +apId: "https://lemmy.ml/post/149005"
    +editedAt: null
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1642173728 {#1793
      date: 2022-01-14 16:22:08.0 +01:00
    }
  }
  +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
  +image: null
  +parent: null
  +root: null
  +body: "Terabox has 1tb free, 2tb @54/y"
  +lang: "en"
  +isAdult: false
  +favouriteCount: 1
  +score: 0
  +lastActive: DateTime @1689719794 {#4111
    date: 2023-07-19 00:36:34.0 +02:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +tags: null
  +mentions: [
    "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
  ]
  +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4100 …}
  +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4098 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4096 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4094 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4062 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4066 …}
  -id: 20403
  -bodyTs: "'1tb':3 '2tb':5 '54/y':6 'free':4 'terabox':1"
  +ranking: 0
  +commentCount: 0
  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://feddit.it/comment/992469"
  +editedAt: null
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689571364 {#4047
    date: 2023-07-17 07:22:44.0 +02:00
  }
}
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
7 DENIED edit 
App\Entity\EntryComment {#4102
  +user: App\Entity\User {#4050 …}
  +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419
    +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#1970 …}
    +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265
      +icon: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#246 …}
      +name: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +title: "asklemmy"
      +description: """
        A loosely moderated place to ask open-ended questions\n
        \n
        **[Search asklemmy](https://lemmy.ml/search?q=&type=Posts&listingType=All&communityId=8&page=1&sort=TopAll) 🔍**\n
        \n
        If your post meets the following criteria, it’s welcome here!\n
        \n
        1. Open-ended\n
        2. Not offensive: at this point, we do not have the bandwidth to moderate overtly political discussions\n
        3. **Not regarding using or support for Lemmy**: [context](https://lemmy.ml/post/1223478), find help in the list of support alternatives below\n
        4. Not ad nauseam inducing: please make sure it is a question that would be new to most members\n
        5. [An actual topic of discussion](https://lemmy.ml/post/1239589)\n
        \n
        Support alternatives:\n
        \n
        - [!lemmy_support@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/lemmy_support)\n
        - [!nostupidlemmyquestions@lemmy.dbzer0.com](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/nostupidlemmyquestions)\n
        - [!selfhosted@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/selfhosted)\n
        \n
        ~Icon~ ~by~ ~@Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de~
        """
      +rules: null
      +subscriptionsCount: 0
      +entryCount: 580
      +entryCommentCount: 15558
      +postCount: 7
      +postCommentCount: 129
      +isAdult: false
      +customCss: null
      +lastActive: DateTime @1689748304 {#275
        date: 2023-07-19 08:31:44.0 +02:00
      }
      +markedForDeletionAt: null
      +tags: null
      +moderators: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#237 …}
      +ownershipRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#233 …}
      +moderatorRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#222 …}
      +entries: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#180 …}
      +posts: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#138 …}
      +subscriptions: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#200 …}
      +bans: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#117 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#103 …}
      +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#81 …}
      +logs: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#71 …}
      +awards: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1346 …}
      +categories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1823 …}
      -id: 9
      +apId: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +apProfileId: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apPublicUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apFollowersUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy/followers"
      +apInboxUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/inbox"
      +apDomain: "lemmy.ml"
      +apPreferredUsername: "asklemmy"
      +apDiscoverable: true
      +apManuallyApprovesFollowers: null
      +privateKey: null
      +publicKey: null
      +apFetchedAt: DateTime @1689747596 {#269
        date: 2023-07-19 08:19:56.0 +02:00
      }
      +apDeletedAt: null
      +apTimeoutAt: null
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1686889707 {#271
        date: 2023-06-16 06:28:27.0 +02:00
      }
    }
    +image: null
    +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#1915 …}
    +slug: "Best-options-for-Non-Google-cloud-storage-as-of-2022"
    +title: "Best options for Non-Google cloud storage as of 2022?"
    +url: null
    +body: """
      What are Lemmy’s feelings about the best cloud storage options these days, if you really want to break into the 1-2TB range? I’m not there yet, probably not even halfway there, but I like the peace of mind of potentially having the space if I need it. And I think subscribing to something in the Netflix price range is maybe something I’m ready for.\n
      \n
      My thoughts so far:\n
      \n
      [pcloud](https://www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime) - Intriguing because you can pay for a “lifetime” plan of 2TB of storage. But it’s $350, which is a lot, and I don’t know that I love the interface or usability, and I don’t know if I trust them.\n
      \n
      [iDrive](https://www.idrive.com/pricing) - Super affordable. 5tb for “just” $80/year. It might be the best deal, but nothing about their identity suggests to me that they are “good guys.” By which I mean, I’m not sure I trust them to make long-term promises for any specific plan.\n
      \n
      [Mega](https://mega.io/pro) - I like its very anti-google, very encrypted attitude. Born from the ashes of megaupload, they built encryption and zero knowledge into it. I LOVE that you can connect to it through the android app Solid Explorer and therefore don’t even need the mega app if you don’t want it. I hear bad things about it though? And it’s pretty expensive at $115 per year for 2TB.\n
      \n
      My personal thoughts/reasoning/caveats:\n
      \n
      **Homebrew stuff**: I don’t *quite* trust myself to use a homebrew setup like Nextcloud or Syncthing correctly. There’s too much in terms of labor, upkeep, catastrophic single points of failure where you could lose everything. I feel like I’m 70% of the way to being smart enough to do this.\n
      \n
      **Avoiding the Bad Guys and the Free Stuff**: I’ve tried the free version of just about everything, from Google to Onedrive to Dropbox to Mediafire to Mega. There’s even an android app that offers 1 free terrabyte?? But I don’t want something from the bad guys where I’m going to be integrated into their closed source death drap: Google, Amazon, Microsoft, Apple, and I don’t want a too-good-to-be-true free service where I’m the product.\n
      \n
      I also would prefer to avoid something from the upstarts who kinda-sorta imitate the bad guys: Dropbox, Mediafire, Box. Because I’m not sure how much I can trust any specific long term promise from them.\n
      \n
      **It sounds like you’re saying nothing is good enough! What exactly do you want!?** Something from good guys, not bad guys. Something like [Standardnotes](https://standardnotes.com/), but for file storage. They emphasize privacy, good governance principles and longevity of their service. Or [Linode](https://www.linode.com/support-experience/), with their independence, sense of mission, love of Linux & free software, all of which tells me they are good guys.\n
      \n
      Probably the correct answer is (1) here’s this magical perfect source I never thought of, or (2) I’m thinking this much about it, I should probably do Nextcloud or syncthing given all the constraints that I’m putting out there.\n
      \n
      Anyway, that’s my thoughts on cloud storage. What are yours?
      """
    +type: "article"
    +lang: "en"
    +isOc: false
    +hasEmbed: false
    +commentCount: 25
    +favouriteCount: 41
    +score: 0
    +isAdult: false
    +sticky: false
    +lastActive: DateTime @1689719793 {#2414
      date: 2023-07-19 00:36:33.0 +02:00
    }
    +ip: null
    +adaAmount: 0
    +tags: null
    +mentions: null
    +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1884 …}
    +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1973 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1959 …}
    +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1927 …}
    +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2442 …}
    +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2440 …}
    +children: []
    -id: 1294
    -titleTs: "'2022':11 'best':1 'cloud':7 'googl':6 'non':5 'non-googl':4 'option':2 'storag':8"
    -bodyTs: "'-2':23 '/),':451 '/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':77 '/pricing)':123 '/pro)':173 '/support-experience/),':471 '1':22,337,497 '115':240 '2':509 '2tb':88,244 '350':94 '5tb':126 '70':290 '80/year':129 'afford':125 'also':387 'amazon':364 'android':208,333 'answer':495 'anti':179 'anti-googl':178 'anyway':534 'app':209,220,334 'appl':366 'ash':187 'attitud':183 'avoid':301,391 'bad':229,303,348,402,444 'best':8,134 'born':184 'box':406 'break':19 'built':191 'catastroph':275 'close':359 'cloud':9,540 'connect':203 'constraint':527 'correct':265,494 'could':282 'day':13 'deal':135 'death':361 'drap':362 'dropbox':324,404 'emphas':457 'encrypt':182,192 'enough':297,433 'even':33,216,331 'everyth':284,318 'exact':435 'expens':238 'explor':211 'failur':279 'far':73 'feel':5,286 'file':454 'free':307,313,338,379,481 'given':524 'go':353 'good':147,375,432,441,459,490 'googl':180,320,363 'govern':460 'guy':148,304,349,403,442,445,491 'halfway':34 'hear':228 'homebrew':248,259 'ident':140 'idriv':120 'imit':400 'independ':474 'integr':356 'interfac':108 'intrigu':78 'kinda':398 'kinda-sorta':397 'know':103,115 'knowledg':195 'labor':273 'lemmi':3 'lifetim':85 'like':38,175,261,287,426,447 'linod':468 'linux':480 'long':163,419 'long-term':162 'longev':463 'lose':283 'lot':98 'love':106,199,478 'm':27,67,154,289,352,383,409,511,530 'magic':501 'make':161 'mayb':64 'mean':152 'mediafir':326,405 'mega':170,219,328 'mega.io':172 'mega.io/pro)':171 'megaupload':189 'microsoft':365 'might':131 'mind':42 'mission':477 'much':269,413,514 'need':50,217 'netflix':60 'never':505 'nextcloud':262,521 'noth':137,430 'offer':336 'onedr':322 'option':11 'pay':82 'pcloud':74 'peac':40 'per':241 'perfect':502 'person':246 'plan':86,169 'point':277 'potenti':44 'prefer':389 'pretti':237 'price':61 'principl':461 'privaci':458 'probabl':31,492,519 'product':385 'promis':165,421 'put':531 'quit':253 'rang':25,62 're':428 'readi':68 'realli':16 'say':429 'sens':475 'servic':380,466 'setup':260 'singl':276 'smart':296 'softwar':482 'solid':210 'someth':57,65,345,392,439,446 'sorta':399 'sound':425 'sourc':360,503 'space':47 'specif':168,418 'standardnot':448 'standardnotes.com':450 'standardnotes.com/),':449 'storag':10,90,455,541 'stuff':249,308 'subscrib':55 'suggest':141 'super':124 'sure':156,411 'syncth':264,523 'tb':24 'tell':486 'term':164,271,420 'terrabyt':339 'therefor':213 'thing':230 'think':54,512 'though':233 'thought':71,506,538 'thoughts/reasoning/caveats':247 'too-good-to-be-tru':373 'tri':311 'true':378 'trust':118,158,254,416 'upkeep':274 'upstart':395 'usabl':110 'use':257 've':310 'version':314 'want':17,225,344,371,438 'way':293 'would':388 'www.idrive.com':122 'www.idrive.com/pricing)':121 'www.linode.com':470 'www.linode.com/support-experience/),':469 'www.pcloud.com':76 'www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':75 'year':242 'yet':30 'zero':194"
    +cross: false
    +upVotes: 0
    +downVotes: 0
    +ranking: 1642260128
    +visibility: "visible             "
    +apId: "https://lemmy.ml/post/149005"
    +editedAt: null
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1642173728 {#1793
      date: 2022-01-14 16:22:08.0 +01:00
    }
  }
  +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
  +image: null
  +parent: null
  +root: null
  +body: "Terabox has 1tb free, 2tb @54/y"
  +lang: "en"
  +isAdult: false
  +favouriteCount: 1
  +score: 0
  +lastActive: DateTime @1689719794 {#4111
    date: 2023-07-19 00:36:34.0 +02:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +tags: null
  +mentions: [
    "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
  ]
  +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4100 …}
  +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4098 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4096 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4094 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4062 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4066 …}
  -id: 20403
  -bodyTs: "'1tb':3 '2tb':5 '54/y':6 'free':4 'terabox':1"
  +ranking: 0
  +commentCount: 0
  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://feddit.it/comment/992469"
  +editedAt: null
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689571364 {#4047
    date: 2023-07-17 07:22:44.0 +02:00
  }
}
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
8 DENIED moderate 
App\Entity\EntryComment {#4102
  +user: App\Entity\User {#4050 …}
  +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419
    +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#1970 …}
    +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265
      +icon: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#246 …}
      +name: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +title: "asklemmy"
      +description: """
        A loosely moderated place to ask open-ended questions\n
        \n
        **[Search asklemmy](https://lemmy.ml/search?q=&type=Posts&listingType=All&communityId=8&page=1&sort=TopAll) 🔍**\n
        \n
        If your post meets the following criteria, it’s welcome here!\n
        \n
        1. Open-ended\n
        2. Not offensive: at this point, we do not have the bandwidth to moderate overtly political discussions\n
        3. **Not regarding using or support for Lemmy**: [context](https://lemmy.ml/post/1223478), find help in the list of support alternatives below\n
        4. Not ad nauseam inducing: please make sure it is a question that would be new to most members\n
        5. [An actual topic of discussion](https://lemmy.ml/post/1239589)\n
        \n
        Support alternatives:\n
        \n
        - [!lemmy_support@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/lemmy_support)\n
        - [!nostupidlemmyquestions@lemmy.dbzer0.com](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/nostupidlemmyquestions)\n
        - [!selfhosted@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/selfhosted)\n
        \n
        ~Icon~ ~by~ ~@Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de~
        """
      +rules: null
      +subscriptionsCount: 0
      +entryCount: 580
      +entryCommentCount: 15558
      +postCount: 7
      +postCommentCount: 129
      +isAdult: false
      +customCss: null
      +lastActive: DateTime @1689748304 {#275
        date: 2023-07-19 08:31:44.0 +02:00
      }
      +markedForDeletionAt: null
      +tags: null
      +moderators: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#237 …}
      +ownershipRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#233 …}
      +moderatorRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#222 …}
      +entries: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#180 …}
      +posts: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#138 …}
      +subscriptions: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#200 …}
      +bans: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#117 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#103 …}
      +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#81 …}
      +logs: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#71 …}
      +awards: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1346 …}
      +categories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1823 …}
      -id: 9
      +apId: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +apProfileId: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apPublicUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apFollowersUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy/followers"
      +apInboxUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/inbox"
      +apDomain: "lemmy.ml"
      +apPreferredUsername: "asklemmy"
      +apDiscoverable: true
      +apManuallyApprovesFollowers: null
      +privateKey: null
      +publicKey: null
      +apFetchedAt: DateTime @1689747596 {#269
        date: 2023-07-19 08:19:56.0 +02:00
      }
      +apDeletedAt: null
      +apTimeoutAt: null
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1686889707 {#271
        date: 2023-06-16 06:28:27.0 +02:00
      }
    }
    +image: null
    +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#1915 …}
    +slug: "Best-options-for-Non-Google-cloud-storage-as-of-2022"
    +title: "Best options for Non-Google cloud storage as of 2022?"
    +url: null
    +body: """
      What are Lemmy’s feelings about the best cloud storage options these days, if you really want to break into the 1-2TB range? I’m not there yet, probably not even halfway there, but I like the peace of mind of potentially having the space if I need it. And I think subscribing to something in the Netflix price range is maybe something I’m ready for.\n
      \n
      My thoughts so far:\n
      \n
      [pcloud](https://www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime) - Intriguing because you can pay for a “lifetime” plan of 2TB of storage. But it’s $350, which is a lot, and I don’t know that I love the interface or usability, and I don’t know if I trust them.\n
      \n
      [iDrive](https://www.idrive.com/pricing) - Super affordable. 5tb for “just” $80/year. It might be the best deal, but nothing about their identity suggests to me that they are “good guys.” By which I mean, I’m not sure I trust them to make long-term promises for any specific plan.\n
      \n
      [Mega](https://mega.io/pro) - I like its very anti-google, very encrypted attitude. Born from the ashes of megaupload, they built encryption and zero knowledge into it. I LOVE that you can connect to it through the android app Solid Explorer and therefore don’t even need the mega app if you don’t want it. I hear bad things about it though? And it’s pretty expensive at $115 per year for 2TB.\n
      \n
      My personal thoughts/reasoning/caveats:\n
      \n
      **Homebrew stuff**: I don’t *quite* trust myself to use a homebrew setup like Nextcloud or Syncthing correctly. There’s too much in terms of labor, upkeep, catastrophic single points of failure where you could lose everything. I feel like I’m 70% of the way to being smart enough to do this.\n
      \n
      **Avoiding the Bad Guys and the Free Stuff**: I’ve tried the free version of just about everything, from Google to Onedrive to Dropbox to Mediafire to Mega. There’s even an android app that offers 1 free terrabyte?? But I don’t want something from the bad guys where I’m going to be integrated into their closed source death drap: Google, Amazon, Microsoft, Apple, and I don’t want a too-good-to-be-true free service where I’m the product.\n
      \n
      I also would prefer to avoid something from the upstarts who kinda-sorta imitate the bad guys: Dropbox, Mediafire, Box. Because I’m not sure how much I can trust any specific long term promise from them.\n
      \n
      **It sounds like you’re saying nothing is good enough! What exactly do you want!?** Something from good guys, not bad guys. Something like [Standardnotes](https://standardnotes.com/), but for file storage. They emphasize privacy, good governance principles and longevity of their service. Or [Linode](https://www.linode.com/support-experience/), with their independence, sense of mission, love of Linux & free software, all of which tells me they are good guys.\n
      \n
      Probably the correct answer is (1) here’s this magical perfect source I never thought of, or (2) I’m thinking this much about it, I should probably do Nextcloud or syncthing given all the constraints that I’m putting out there.\n
      \n
      Anyway, that’s my thoughts on cloud storage. What are yours?
      """
    +type: "article"
    +lang: "en"
    +isOc: false
    +hasEmbed: false
    +commentCount: 25
    +favouriteCount: 41
    +score: 0
    +isAdult: false
    +sticky: false
    +lastActive: DateTime @1689719793 {#2414
      date: 2023-07-19 00:36:33.0 +02:00
    }
    +ip: null
    +adaAmount: 0
    +tags: null
    +mentions: null
    +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1884 …}
    +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1973 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1959 …}
    +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1927 …}
    +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2442 …}
    +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2440 …}
    +children: []
    -id: 1294
    -titleTs: "'2022':11 'best':1 'cloud':7 'googl':6 'non':5 'non-googl':4 'option':2 'storag':8"
    -bodyTs: "'-2':23 '/),':451 '/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':77 '/pricing)':123 '/pro)':173 '/support-experience/),':471 '1':22,337,497 '115':240 '2':509 '2tb':88,244 '350':94 '5tb':126 '70':290 '80/year':129 'afford':125 'also':387 'amazon':364 'android':208,333 'answer':495 'anti':179 'anti-googl':178 'anyway':534 'app':209,220,334 'appl':366 'ash':187 'attitud':183 'avoid':301,391 'bad':229,303,348,402,444 'best':8,134 'born':184 'box':406 'break':19 'built':191 'catastroph':275 'close':359 'cloud':9,540 'connect':203 'constraint':527 'correct':265,494 'could':282 'day':13 'deal':135 'death':361 'drap':362 'dropbox':324,404 'emphas':457 'encrypt':182,192 'enough':297,433 'even':33,216,331 'everyth':284,318 'exact':435 'expens':238 'explor':211 'failur':279 'far':73 'feel':5,286 'file':454 'free':307,313,338,379,481 'given':524 'go':353 'good':147,375,432,441,459,490 'googl':180,320,363 'govern':460 'guy':148,304,349,403,442,445,491 'halfway':34 'hear':228 'homebrew':248,259 'ident':140 'idriv':120 'imit':400 'independ':474 'integr':356 'interfac':108 'intrigu':78 'kinda':398 'kinda-sorta':397 'know':103,115 'knowledg':195 'labor':273 'lemmi':3 'lifetim':85 'like':38,175,261,287,426,447 'linod':468 'linux':480 'long':163,419 'long-term':162 'longev':463 'lose':283 'lot':98 'love':106,199,478 'm':27,67,154,289,352,383,409,511,530 'magic':501 'make':161 'mayb':64 'mean':152 'mediafir':326,405 'mega':170,219,328 'mega.io':172 'mega.io/pro)':171 'megaupload':189 'microsoft':365 'might':131 'mind':42 'mission':477 'much':269,413,514 'need':50,217 'netflix':60 'never':505 'nextcloud':262,521 'noth':137,430 'offer':336 'onedr':322 'option':11 'pay':82 'pcloud':74 'peac':40 'per':241 'perfect':502 'person':246 'plan':86,169 'point':277 'potenti':44 'prefer':389 'pretti':237 'price':61 'principl':461 'privaci':458 'probabl':31,492,519 'product':385 'promis':165,421 'put':531 'quit':253 'rang':25,62 're':428 'readi':68 'realli':16 'say':429 'sens':475 'servic':380,466 'setup':260 'singl':276 'smart':296 'softwar':482 'solid':210 'someth':57,65,345,392,439,446 'sorta':399 'sound':425 'sourc':360,503 'space':47 'specif':168,418 'standardnot':448 'standardnotes.com':450 'standardnotes.com/),':449 'storag':10,90,455,541 'stuff':249,308 'subscrib':55 'suggest':141 'super':124 'sure':156,411 'syncth':264,523 'tb':24 'tell':486 'term':164,271,420 'terrabyt':339 'therefor':213 'thing':230 'think':54,512 'though':233 'thought':71,506,538 'thoughts/reasoning/caveats':247 'too-good-to-be-tru':373 'tri':311 'true':378 'trust':118,158,254,416 'upkeep':274 'upstart':395 'usabl':110 'use':257 've':310 'version':314 'want':17,225,344,371,438 'way':293 'would':388 'www.idrive.com':122 'www.idrive.com/pricing)':121 'www.linode.com':470 'www.linode.com/support-experience/),':469 'www.pcloud.com':76 'www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':75 'year':242 'yet':30 'zero':194"
    +cross: false
    +upVotes: 0
    +downVotes: 0
    +ranking: 1642260128
    +visibility: "visible             "
    +apId: "https://lemmy.ml/post/149005"
    +editedAt: null
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1642173728 {#1793
      date: 2022-01-14 16:22:08.0 +01:00
    }
  }
  +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
  +image: null
  +parent: null
  +root: null
  +body: "Terabox has 1tb free, 2tb @54/y"
  +lang: "en"
  +isAdult: false
  +favouriteCount: 1
  +score: 0
  +lastActive: DateTime @1689719794 {#4111
    date: 2023-07-19 00:36:34.0 +02:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +tags: null
  +mentions: [
    "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
  ]
  +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4100 …}
  +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4098 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4096 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4094 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4062 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4066 …}
  -id: 20403
  -bodyTs: "'1tb':3 '2tb':5 '54/y':6 'free':4 'terabox':1"
  +ranking: 0
  +commentCount: 0
  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://feddit.it/comment/992469"
  +editedAt: null
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689571364 {#4047
    date: 2023-07-17 07:22:44.0 +02:00
  }
}
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
9 DENIED ROLE_USER 
null
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
10 DENIED moderate 
App\Entity\EntryComment {#4990
  +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#4913 …}
  +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419
    +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#1970 …}
    +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265
      +icon: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#246 …}
      +name: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +title: "asklemmy"
      +description: """
        A loosely moderated place to ask open-ended questions\n
        \n
        **[Search asklemmy](https://lemmy.ml/search?q=&type=Posts&listingType=All&communityId=8&page=1&sort=TopAll) 🔍**\n
        \n
        If your post meets the following criteria, it’s welcome here!\n
        \n
        1. Open-ended\n
        2. Not offensive: at this point, we do not have the bandwidth to moderate overtly political discussions\n
        3. **Not regarding using or support for Lemmy**: [context](https://lemmy.ml/post/1223478), find help in the list of support alternatives below\n
        4. Not ad nauseam inducing: please make sure it is a question that would be new to most members\n
        5. [An actual topic of discussion](https://lemmy.ml/post/1239589)\n
        \n
        Support alternatives:\n
        \n
        - [!lemmy_support@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/lemmy_support)\n
        - [!nostupidlemmyquestions@lemmy.dbzer0.com](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/nostupidlemmyquestions)\n
        - [!selfhosted@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/selfhosted)\n
        \n
        ~Icon~ ~by~ ~@Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de~
        """
      +rules: null
      +subscriptionsCount: 0
      +entryCount: 580
      +entryCommentCount: 15558
      +postCount: 7
      +postCommentCount: 129
      +isAdult: false
      +customCss: null
      +lastActive: DateTime @1689748304 {#275
        date: 2023-07-19 08:31:44.0 +02:00
      }
      +markedForDeletionAt: null
      +tags: null
      +moderators: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#237 …}
      +ownershipRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#233 …}
      +moderatorRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#222 …}
      +entries: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#180 …}
      +posts: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#138 …}
      +subscriptions: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#200 …}
      +bans: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#117 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#103 …}
      +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#81 …}
      +logs: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#71 …}
      +awards: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1346 …}
      +categories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1823 …}
      -id: 9
      +apId: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +apProfileId: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apPublicUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apFollowersUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy/followers"
      +apInboxUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/inbox"
      +apDomain: "lemmy.ml"
      +apPreferredUsername: "asklemmy"
      +apDiscoverable: true
      +apManuallyApprovesFollowers: null
      +privateKey: null
      +publicKey: null
      +apFetchedAt: DateTime @1689747596 {#269
        date: 2023-07-19 08:19:56.0 +02:00
      }
      +apDeletedAt: null
      +apTimeoutAt: null
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1686889707 {#271
        date: 2023-06-16 06:28:27.0 +02:00
      }
    }
    +image: null
    +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#1915 …}
    +slug: "Best-options-for-Non-Google-cloud-storage-as-of-2022"
    +title: "Best options for Non-Google cloud storage as of 2022?"
    +url: null
    +body: """
      What are Lemmy’s feelings about the best cloud storage options these days, if you really want to break into the 1-2TB range? I’m not there yet, probably not even halfway there, but I like the peace of mind of potentially having the space if I need it. And I think subscribing to something in the Netflix price range is maybe something I’m ready for.\n
      \n
      My thoughts so far:\n
      \n
      [pcloud](https://www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime) - Intriguing because you can pay for a “lifetime” plan of 2TB of storage. But it’s $350, which is a lot, and I don’t know that I love the interface or usability, and I don’t know if I trust them.\n
      \n
      [iDrive](https://www.idrive.com/pricing) - Super affordable. 5tb for “just” $80/year. It might be the best deal, but nothing about their identity suggests to me that they are “good guys.” By which I mean, I’m not sure I trust them to make long-term promises for any specific plan.\n
      \n
      [Mega](https://mega.io/pro) - I like its very anti-google, very encrypted attitude. Born from the ashes of megaupload, they built encryption and zero knowledge into it. I LOVE that you can connect to it through the android app Solid Explorer and therefore don’t even need the mega app if you don’t want it. I hear bad things about it though? And it’s pretty expensive at $115 per year for 2TB.\n
      \n
      My personal thoughts/reasoning/caveats:\n
      \n
      **Homebrew stuff**: I don’t *quite* trust myself to use a homebrew setup like Nextcloud or Syncthing correctly. There’s too much in terms of labor, upkeep, catastrophic single points of failure where you could lose everything. I feel like I’m 70% of the way to being smart enough to do this.\n
      \n
      **Avoiding the Bad Guys and the Free Stuff**: I’ve tried the free version of just about everything, from Google to Onedrive to Dropbox to Mediafire to Mega. There’s even an android app that offers 1 free terrabyte?? But I don’t want something from the bad guys where I’m going to be integrated into their closed source death drap: Google, Amazon, Microsoft, Apple, and I don’t want a too-good-to-be-true free service where I’m the product.\n
      \n
      I also would prefer to avoid something from the upstarts who kinda-sorta imitate the bad guys: Dropbox, Mediafire, Box. Because I’m not sure how much I can trust any specific long term promise from them.\n
      \n
      **It sounds like you’re saying nothing is good enough! What exactly do you want!?** Something from good guys, not bad guys. Something like [Standardnotes](https://standardnotes.com/), but for file storage. They emphasize privacy, good governance principles and longevity of their service. Or [Linode](https://www.linode.com/support-experience/), with their independence, sense of mission, love of Linux & free software, all of which tells me they are good guys.\n
      \n
      Probably the correct answer is (1) here’s this magical perfect source I never thought of, or (2) I’m thinking this much about it, I should probably do Nextcloud or syncthing given all the constraints that I’m putting out there.\n
      \n
      Anyway, that’s my thoughts on cloud storage. What are yours?
      """
    +type: "article"
    +lang: "en"
    +isOc: false
    +hasEmbed: false
    +commentCount: 25
    +favouriteCount: 41
    +score: 0
    +isAdult: false
    +sticky: false
    +lastActive: DateTime @1689719793 {#2414
      date: 2023-07-19 00:36:33.0 +02:00
    }
    +ip: null
    +adaAmount: 0
    +tags: null
    +mentions: null
    +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1884 …}
    +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1973 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1959 …}
    +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1927 …}
    +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2442 …}
    +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2440 …}
    +children: []
    -id: 1294
    -titleTs: "'2022':11 'best':1 'cloud':7 'googl':6 'non':5 'non-googl':4 'option':2 'storag':8"
    -bodyTs: "'-2':23 '/),':451 '/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':77 '/pricing)':123 '/pro)':173 '/support-experience/),':471 '1':22,337,497 '115':240 '2':509 '2tb':88,244 '350':94 '5tb':126 '70':290 '80/year':129 'afford':125 'also':387 'amazon':364 'android':208,333 'answer':495 'anti':179 'anti-googl':178 'anyway':534 'app':209,220,334 'appl':366 'ash':187 'attitud':183 'avoid':301,391 'bad':229,303,348,402,444 'best':8,134 'born':184 'box':406 'break':19 'built':191 'catastroph':275 'close':359 'cloud':9,540 'connect':203 'constraint':527 'correct':265,494 'could':282 'day':13 'deal':135 'death':361 'drap':362 'dropbox':324,404 'emphas':457 'encrypt':182,192 'enough':297,433 'even':33,216,331 'everyth':284,318 'exact':435 'expens':238 'explor':211 'failur':279 'far':73 'feel':5,286 'file':454 'free':307,313,338,379,481 'given':524 'go':353 'good':147,375,432,441,459,490 'googl':180,320,363 'govern':460 'guy':148,304,349,403,442,445,491 'halfway':34 'hear':228 'homebrew':248,259 'ident':140 'idriv':120 'imit':400 'independ':474 'integr':356 'interfac':108 'intrigu':78 'kinda':398 'kinda-sorta':397 'know':103,115 'knowledg':195 'labor':273 'lemmi':3 'lifetim':85 'like':38,175,261,287,426,447 'linod':468 'linux':480 'long':163,419 'long-term':162 'longev':463 'lose':283 'lot':98 'love':106,199,478 'm':27,67,154,289,352,383,409,511,530 'magic':501 'make':161 'mayb':64 'mean':152 'mediafir':326,405 'mega':170,219,328 'mega.io':172 'mega.io/pro)':171 'megaupload':189 'microsoft':365 'might':131 'mind':42 'mission':477 'much':269,413,514 'need':50,217 'netflix':60 'never':505 'nextcloud':262,521 'noth':137,430 'offer':336 'onedr':322 'option':11 'pay':82 'pcloud':74 'peac':40 'per':241 'perfect':502 'person':246 'plan':86,169 'point':277 'potenti':44 'prefer':389 'pretti':237 'price':61 'principl':461 'privaci':458 'probabl':31,492,519 'product':385 'promis':165,421 'put':531 'quit':253 'rang':25,62 're':428 'readi':68 'realli':16 'say':429 'sens':475 'servic':380,466 'setup':260 'singl':276 'smart':296 'softwar':482 'solid':210 'someth':57,65,345,392,439,446 'sorta':399 'sound':425 'sourc':360,503 'space':47 'specif':168,418 'standardnot':448 'standardnotes.com':450 'standardnotes.com/),':449 'storag':10,90,455,541 'stuff':249,308 'subscrib':55 'suggest':141 'super':124 'sure':156,411 'syncth':264,523 'tb':24 'tell':486 'term':164,271,420 'terrabyt':339 'therefor':213 'thing':230 'think':54,512 'though':233 'thought':71,506,538 'thoughts/reasoning/caveats':247 'too-good-to-be-tru':373 'tri':311 'true':378 'trust':118,158,254,416 'upkeep':274 'upstart':395 'usabl':110 'use':257 've':310 'version':314 'want':17,225,344,371,438 'way':293 'would':388 'www.idrive.com':122 'www.idrive.com/pricing)':121 'www.linode.com':470 'www.linode.com/support-experience/),':469 'www.pcloud.com':76 'www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':75 'year':242 'yet':30 'zero':194"
    +cross: false
    +upVotes: 0
    +downVotes: 0
    +ranking: 1642260128
    +visibility: "visible             "
    +apId: "https://lemmy.ml/post/149005"
    +editedAt: null
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1642173728 {#1793
      date: 2022-01-14 16:22:08.0 +01:00
    }
  }
  +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
  +image: null
  +parent: App\Entity\EntryComment {#4102
    +user: App\Entity\User {#4050 …}
    +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419}
    +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
    +image: null
    +parent: null
    +root: null
    +body: "Terabox has 1tb free, 2tb @54/y"
    +lang: "en"
    +isAdult: false
    +favouriteCount: 1
    +score: 0
    +lastActive: DateTime @1689719794 {#4111
      date: 2023-07-19 00:36:34.0 +02:00
    }
    +ip: null
    +tags: null
    +mentions: [
      "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
    ]
    +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4100 …}
    +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4098 …}
    +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4096 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4094 …}
    +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4062 …}
    +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4066 …}
    -id: 20403
    -bodyTs: "'1tb':3 '2tb':5 '54/y':6 'free':4 'terabox':1"
    +ranking: 0
    +commentCount: 0
    +upVotes: 0
    +downVotes: 0
    +visibility: "visible             "
    +apId: "https://feddit.it/comment/992469"
    +editedAt: null
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689571364 {#4047
      date: 2023-07-17 07:22:44.0 +02:00
    }
  }
  +root: App\Entity\EntryComment {#4102}
  +body: "China based. I wouldn’t put anything private or sensitive on their servers…"
  +lang: "en"
  +isAdult: false
  +favouriteCount: 1
  +score: 0
  +lastActive: DateTime @1689702319 {#4988
    date: 2023-07-18 19:45:19.0 +02:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +tags: null
  +mentions: [
    "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
    "@Suoko@feddit.it"
  ]
  +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4991 …}
  +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4993 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4995 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4997 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4999 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5001 …}
  -id: 21972
  -bodyTs: "'anyth':7 'base':2 'china':1 'privat':8 'put':6 'sensit':10 'server':13 'wouldn':4"
  +ranking: 0
  +commentCount: 0
  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://lemmy.one/comment/1241678"
  +editedAt: null
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689702319 {#4989
    date: 2023-07-18 19:45:19.0 +02:00
  }
}
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
11 DENIED edit 
App\Entity\EntryComment {#4990
  +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#4913 …}
  +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419
    +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#1970 …}
    +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265
      +icon: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#246 …}
      +name: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +title: "asklemmy"
      +description: """
        A loosely moderated place to ask open-ended questions\n
        \n
        **[Search asklemmy](https://lemmy.ml/search?q=&type=Posts&listingType=All&communityId=8&page=1&sort=TopAll) 🔍**\n
        \n
        If your post meets the following criteria, it’s welcome here!\n
        \n
        1. Open-ended\n
        2. Not offensive: at this point, we do not have the bandwidth to moderate overtly political discussions\n
        3. **Not regarding using or support for Lemmy**: [context](https://lemmy.ml/post/1223478), find help in the list of support alternatives below\n
        4. Not ad nauseam inducing: please make sure it is a question that would be new to most members\n
        5. [An actual topic of discussion](https://lemmy.ml/post/1239589)\n
        \n
        Support alternatives:\n
        \n
        - [!lemmy_support@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/lemmy_support)\n
        - [!nostupidlemmyquestions@lemmy.dbzer0.com](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/nostupidlemmyquestions)\n
        - [!selfhosted@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/selfhosted)\n
        \n
        ~Icon~ ~by~ ~@Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de~
        """
      +rules: null
      +subscriptionsCount: 0
      +entryCount: 580
      +entryCommentCount: 15558
      +postCount: 7
      +postCommentCount: 129
      +isAdult: false
      +customCss: null
      +lastActive: DateTime @1689748304 {#275
        date: 2023-07-19 08:31:44.0 +02:00
      }
      +markedForDeletionAt: null
      +tags: null
      +moderators: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#237 …}
      +ownershipRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#233 …}
      +moderatorRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#222 …}
      +entries: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#180 …}
      +posts: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#138 …}
      +subscriptions: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#200 …}
      +bans: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#117 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#103 …}
      +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#81 …}
      +logs: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#71 …}
      +awards: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1346 …}
      +categories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1823 …}
      -id: 9
      +apId: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +apProfileId: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apPublicUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apFollowersUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy/followers"
      +apInboxUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/inbox"
      +apDomain: "lemmy.ml"
      +apPreferredUsername: "asklemmy"
      +apDiscoverable: true
      +apManuallyApprovesFollowers: null
      +privateKey: null
      +publicKey: null
      +apFetchedAt: DateTime @1689747596 {#269
        date: 2023-07-19 08:19:56.0 +02:00
      }
      +apDeletedAt: null
      +apTimeoutAt: null
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1686889707 {#271
        date: 2023-06-16 06:28:27.0 +02:00
      }
    }
    +image: null
    +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#1915 …}
    +slug: "Best-options-for-Non-Google-cloud-storage-as-of-2022"
    +title: "Best options for Non-Google cloud storage as of 2022?"
    +url: null
    +body: """
      What are Lemmy’s feelings about the best cloud storage options these days, if you really want to break into the 1-2TB range? I’m not there yet, probably not even halfway there, but I like the peace of mind of potentially having the space if I need it. And I think subscribing to something in the Netflix price range is maybe something I’m ready for.\n
      \n
      My thoughts so far:\n
      \n
      [pcloud](https://www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime) - Intriguing because you can pay for a “lifetime” plan of 2TB of storage. But it’s $350, which is a lot, and I don’t know that I love the interface or usability, and I don’t know if I trust them.\n
      \n
      [iDrive](https://www.idrive.com/pricing) - Super affordable. 5tb for “just” $80/year. It might be the best deal, but nothing about their identity suggests to me that they are “good guys.” By which I mean, I’m not sure I trust them to make long-term promises for any specific plan.\n
      \n
      [Mega](https://mega.io/pro) - I like its very anti-google, very encrypted attitude. Born from the ashes of megaupload, they built encryption and zero knowledge into it. I LOVE that you can connect to it through the android app Solid Explorer and therefore don’t even need the mega app if you don’t want it. I hear bad things about it though? And it’s pretty expensive at $115 per year for 2TB.\n
      \n
      My personal thoughts/reasoning/caveats:\n
      \n
      **Homebrew stuff**: I don’t *quite* trust myself to use a homebrew setup like Nextcloud or Syncthing correctly. There’s too much in terms of labor, upkeep, catastrophic single points of failure where you could lose everything. I feel like I’m 70% of the way to being smart enough to do this.\n
      \n
      **Avoiding the Bad Guys and the Free Stuff**: I’ve tried the free version of just about everything, from Google to Onedrive to Dropbox to Mediafire to Mega. There’s even an android app that offers 1 free terrabyte?? But I don’t want something from the bad guys where I’m going to be integrated into their closed source death drap: Google, Amazon, Microsoft, Apple, and I don’t want a too-good-to-be-true free service where I’m the product.\n
      \n
      I also would prefer to avoid something from the upstarts who kinda-sorta imitate the bad guys: Dropbox, Mediafire, Box. Because I’m not sure how much I can trust any specific long term promise from them.\n
      \n
      **It sounds like you’re saying nothing is good enough! What exactly do you want!?** Something from good guys, not bad guys. Something like [Standardnotes](https://standardnotes.com/), but for file storage. They emphasize privacy, good governance principles and longevity of their service. Or [Linode](https://www.linode.com/support-experience/), with their independence, sense of mission, love of Linux & free software, all of which tells me they are good guys.\n
      \n
      Probably the correct answer is (1) here’s this magical perfect source I never thought of, or (2) I’m thinking this much about it, I should probably do Nextcloud or syncthing given all the constraints that I’m putting out there.\n
      \n
      Anyway, that’s my thoughts on cloud storage. What are yours?
      """
    +type: "article"
    +lang: "en"
    +isOc: false
    +hasEmbed: false
    +commentCount: 25
    +favouriteCount: 41
    +score: 0
    +isAdult: false
    +sticky: false
    +lastActive: DateTime @1689719793 {#2414
      date: 2023-07-19 00:36:33.0 +02:00
    }
    +ip: null
    +adaAmount: 0
    +tags: null
    +mentions: null
    +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1884 …}
    +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1973 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1959 …}
    +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1927 …}
    +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2442 …}
    +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2440 …}
    +children: []
    -id: 1294
    -titleTs: "'2022':11 'best':1 'cloud':7 'googl':6 'non':5 'non-googl':4 'option':2 'storag':8"
    -bodyTs: "'-2':23 '/),':451 '/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':77 '/pricing)':123 '/pro)':173 '/support-experience/),':471 '1':22,337,497 '115':240 '2':509 '2tb':88,244 '350':94 '5tb':126 '70':290 '80/year':129 'afford':125 'also':387 'amazon':364 'android':208,333 'answer':495 'anti':179 'anti-googl':178 'anyway':534 'app':209,220,334 'appl':366 'ash':187 'attitud':183 'avoid':301,391 'bad':229,303,348,402,444 'best':8,134 'born':184 'box':406 'break':19 'built':191 'catastroph':275 'close':359 'cloud':9,540 'connect':203 'constraint':527 'correct':265,494 'could':282 'day':13 'deal':135 'death':361 'drap':362 'dropbox':324,404 'emphas':457 'encrypt':182,192 'enough':297,433 'even':33,216,331 'everyth':284,318 'exact':435 'expens':238 'explor':211 'failur':279 'far':73 'feel':5,286 'file':454 'free':307,313,338,379,481 'given':524 'go':353 'good':147,375,432,441,459,490 'googl':180,320,363 'govern':460 'guy':148,304,349,403,442,445,491 'halfway':34 'hear':228 'homebrew':248,259 'ident':140 'idriv':120 'imit':400 'independ':474 'integr':356 'interfac':108 'intrigu':78 'kinda':398 'kinda-sorta':397 'know':103,115 'knowledg':195 'labor':273 'lemmi':3 'lifetim':85 'like':38,175,261,287,426,447 'linod':468 'linux':480 'long':163,419 'long-term':162 'longev':463 'lose':283 'lot':98 'love':106,199,478 'm':27,67,154,289,352,383,409,511,530 'magic':501 'make':161 'mayb':64 'mean':152 'mediafir':326,405 'mega':170,219,328 'mega.io':172 'mega.io/pro)':171 'megaupload':189 'microsoft':365 'might':131 'mind':42 'mission':477 'much':269,413,514 'need':50,217 'netflix':60 'never':505 'nextcloud':262,521 'noth':137,430 'offer':336 'onedr':322 'option':11 'pay':82 'pcloud':74 'peac':40 'per':241 'perfect':502 'person':246 'plan':86,169 'point':277 'potenti':44 'prefer':389 'pretti':237 'price':61 'principl':461 'privaci':458 'probabl':31,492,519 'product':385 'promis':165,421 'put':531 'quit':253 'rang':25,62 're':428 'readi':68 'realli':16 'say':429 'sens':475 'servic':380,466 'setup':260 'singl':276 'smart':296 'softwar':482 'solid':210 'someth':57,65,345,392,439,446 'sorta':399 'sound':425 'sourc':360,503 'space':47 'specif':168,418 'standardnot':448 'standardnotes.com':450 'standardnotes.com/),':449 'storag':10,90,455,541 'stuff':249,308 'subscrib':55 'suggest':141 'super':124 'sure':156,411 'syncth':264,523 'tb':24 'tell':486 'term':164,271,420 'terrabyt':339 'therefor':213 'thing':230 'think':54,512 'though':233 'thought':71,506,538 'thoughts/reasoning/caveats':247 'too-good-to-be-tru':373 'tri':311 'true':378 'trust':118,158,254,416 'upkeep':274 'upstart':395 'usabl':110 'use':257 've':310 'version':314 'want':17,225,344,371,438 'way':293 'would':388 'www.idrive.com':122 'www.idrive.com/pricing)':121 'www.linode.com':470 'www.linode.com/support-experience/),':469 'www.pcloud.com':76 'www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':75 'year':242 'yet':30 'zero':194"
    +cross: false
    +upVotes: 0
    +downVotes: 0
    +ranking: 1642260128
    +visibility: "visible             "
    +apId: "https://lemmy.ml/post/149005"
    +editedAt: null
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1642173728 {#1793
      date: 2022-01-14 16:22:08.0 +01:00
    }
  }
  +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
  +image: null
  +parent: App\Entity\EntryComment {#4102
    +user: App\Entity\User {#4050 …}
    +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419}
    +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
    +image: null
    +parent: null
    +root: null
    +body: "Terabox has 1tb free, 2tb @54/y"
    +lang: "en"
    +isAdult: false
    +favouriteCount: 1
    +score: 0
    +lastActive: DateTime @1689719794 {#4111
      date: 2023-07-19 00:36:34.0 +02:00
    }
    +ip: null
    +tags: null
    +mentions: [
      "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
    ]
    +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4100 …}
    +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4098 …}
    +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4096 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4094 …}
    +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4062 …}
    +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4066 …}
    -id: 20403
    -bodyTs: "'1tb':3 '2tb':5 '54/y':6 'free':4 'terabox':1"
    +ranking: 0
    +commentCount: 0
    +upVotes: 0
    +downVotes: 0
    +visibility: "visible             "
    +apId: "https://feddit.it/comment/992469"
    +editedAt: null
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689571364 {#4047
      date: 2023-07-17 07:22:44.0 +02:00
    }
  }
  +root: App\Entity\EntryComment {#4102}
  +body: "China based. I wouldn’t put anything private or sensitive on their servers…"
  +lang: "en"
  +isAdult: false
  +favouriteCount: 1
  +score: 0
  +lastActive: DateTime @1689702319 {#4988
    date: 2023-07-18 19:45:19.0 +02:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +tags: null
  +mentions: [
    "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
    "@Suoko@feddit.it"
  ]
  +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4991 …}
  +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4993 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4995 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4997 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4999 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5001 …}
  -id: 21972
  -bodyTs: "'anyth':7 'base':2 'china':1 'privat':8 'put':6 'sensit':10 'server':13 'wouldn':4"
  +ranking: 0
  +commentCount: 0
  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://lemmy.one/comment/1241678"
  +editedAt: null
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689702319 {#4989
    date: 2023-07-18 19:45:19.0 +02:00
  }
}
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
12 DENIED moderate 
App\Entity\EntryComment {#4990
  +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#4913 …}
  +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419
    +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#1970 …}
    +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265
      +icon: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#246 …}
      +name: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +title: "asklemmy"
      +description: """
        A loosely moderated place to ask open-ended questions\n
        \n
        **[Search asklemmy](https://lemmy.ml/search?q=&type=Posts&listingType=All&communityId=8&page=1&sort=TopAll) 🔍**\n
        \n
        If your post meets the following criteria, it’s welcome here!\n
        \n
        1. Open-ended\n
        2. Not offensive: at this point, we do not have the bandwidth to moderate overtly political discussions\n
        3. **Not regarding using or support for Lemmy**: [context](https://lemmy.ml/post/1223478), find help in the list of support alternatives below\n
        4. Not ad nauseam inducing: please make sure it is a question that would be new to most members\n
        5. [An actual topic of discussion](https://lemmy.ml/post/1239589)\n
        \n
        Support alternatives:\n
        \n
        - [!lemmy_support@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/lemmy_support)\n
        - [!nostupidlemmyquestions@lemmy.dbzer0.com](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/nostupidlemmyquestions)\n
        - [!selfhosted@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/selfhosted)\n
        \n
        ~Icon~ ~by~ ~@Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de~
        """
      +rules: null
      +subscriptionsCount: 0
      +entryCount: 580
      +entryCommentCount: 15558
      +postCount: 7
      +postCommentCount: 129
      +isAdult: false
      +customCss: null
      +lastActive: DateTime @1689748304 {#275
        date: 2023-07-19 08:31:44.0 +02:00
      }
      +markedForDeletionAt: null
      +tags: null
      +moderators: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#237 …}
      +ownershipRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#233 …}
      +moderatorRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#222 …}
      +entries: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#180 …}
      +posts: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#138 …}
      +subscriptions: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#200 …}
      +bans: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#117 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#103 …}
      +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#81 …}
      +logs: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#71 …}
      +awards: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1346 …}
      +categories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1823 …}
      -id: 9
      +apId: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +apProfileId: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apPublicUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apFollowersUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy/followers"
      +apInboxUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/inbox"
      +apDomain: "lemmy.ml"
      +apPreferredUsername: "asklemmy"
      +apDiscoverable: true
      +apManuallyApprovesFollowers: null
      +privateKey: null
      +publicKey: null
      +apFetchedAt: DateTime @1689747596 {#269
        date: 2023-07-19 08:19:56.0 +02:00
      }
      +apDeletedAt: null
      +apTimeoutAt: null
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1686889707 {#271
        date: 2023-06-16 06:28:27.0 +02:00
      }
    }
    +image: null
    +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#1915 …}
    +slug: "Best-options-for-Non-Google-cloud-storage-as-of-2022"
    +title: "Best options for Non-Google cloud storage as of 2022?"
    +url: null
    +body: """
      What are Lemmy’s feelings about the best cloud storage options these days, if you really want to break into the 1-2TB range? I’m not there yet, probably not even halfway there, but I like the peace of mind of potentially having the space if I need it. And I think subscribing to something in the Netflix price range is maybe something I’m ready for.\n
      \n
      My thoughts so far:\n
      \n
      [pcloud](https://www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime) - Intriguing because you can pay for a “lifetime” plan of 2TB of storage. But it’s $350, which is a lot, and I don’t know that I love the interface or usability, and I don’t know if I trust them.\n
      \n
      [iDrive](https://www.idrive.com/pricing) - Super affordable. 5tb for “just” $80/year. It might be the best deal, but nothing about their identity suggests to me that they are “good guys.” By which I mean, I’m not sure I trust them to make long-term promises for any specific plan.\n
      \n
      [Mega](https://mega.io/pro) - I like its very anti-google, very encrypted attitude. Born from the ashes of megaupload, they built encryption and zero knowledge into it. I LOVE that you can connect to it through the android app Solid Explorer and therefore don’t even need the mega app if you don’t want it. I hear bad things about it though? And it’s pretty expensive at $115 per year for 2TB.\n
      \n
      My personal thoughts/reasoning/caveats:\n
      \n
      **Homebrew stuff**: I don’t *quite* trust myself to use a homebrew setup like Nextcloud or Syncthing correctly. There’s too much in terms of labor, upkeep, catastrophic single points of failure where you could lose everything. I feel like I’m 70% of the way to being smart enough to do this.\n
      \n
      **Avoiding the Bad Guys and the Free Stuff**: I’ve tried the free version of just about everything, from Google to Onedrive to Dropbox to Mediafire to Mega. There’s even an android app that offers 1 free terrabyte?? But I don’t want something from the bad guys where I’m going to be integrated into their closed source death drap: Google, Amazon, Microsoft, Apple, and I don’t want a too-good-to-be-true free service where I’m the product.\n
      \n
      I also would prefer to avoid something from the upstarts who kinda-sorta imitate the bad guys: Dropbox, Mediafire, Box. Because I’m not sure how much I can trust any specific long term promise from them.\n
      \n
      **It sounds like you’re saying nothing is good enough! What exactly do you want!?** Something from good guys, not bad guys. Something like [Standardnotes](https://standardnotes.com/), but for file storage. They emphasize privacy, good governance principles and longevity of their service. Or [Linode](https://www.linode.com/support-experience/), with their independence, sense of mission, love of Linux & free software, all of which tells me they are good guys.\n
      \n
      Probably the correct answer is (1) here’s this magical perfect source I never thought of, or (2) I’m thinking this much about it, I should probably do Nextcloud or syncthing given all the constraints that I’m putting out there.\n
      \n
      Anyway, that’s my thoughts on cloud storage. What are yours?
      """
    +type: "article"
    +lang: "en"
    +isOc: false
    +hasEmbed: false
    +commentCount: 25
    +favouriteCount: 41
    +score: 0
    +isAdult: false
    +sticky: false
    +lastActive: DateTime @1689719793 {#2414
      date: 2023-07-19 00:36:33.0 +02:00
    }
    +ip: null
    +adaAmount: 0
    +tags: null
    +mentions: null
    +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1884 …}
    +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1973 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1959 …}
    +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1927 …}
    +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2442 …}
    +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2440 …}
    +children: []
    -id: 1294
    -titleTs: "'2022':11 'best':1 'cloud':7 'googl':6 'non':5 'non-googl':4 'option':2 'storag':8"
    -bodyTs: "'-2':23 '/),':451 '/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':77 '/pricing)':123 '/pro)':173 '/support-experience/),':471 '1':22,337,497 '115':240 '2':509 '2tb':88,244 '350':94 '5tb':126 '70':290 '80/year':129 'afford':125 'also':387 'amazon':364 'android':208,333 'answer':495 'anti':179 'anti-googl':178 'anyway':534 'app':209,220,334 'appl':366 'ash':187 'attitud':183 'avoid':301,391 'bad':229,303,348,402,444 'best':8,134 'born':184 'box':406 'break':19 'built':191 'catastroph':275 'close':359 'cloud':9,540 'connect':203 'constraint':527 'correct':265,494 'could':282 'day':13 'deal':135 'death':361 'drap':362 'dropbox':324,404 'emphas':457 'encrypt':182,192 'enough':297,433 'even':33,216,331 'everyth':284,318 'exact':435 'expens':238 'explor':211 'failur':279 'far':73 'feel':5,286 'file':454 'free':307,313,338,379,481 'given':524 'go':353 'good':147,375,432,441,459,490 'googl':180,320,363 'govern':460 'guy':148,304,349,403,442,445,491 'halfway':34 'hear':228 'homebrew':248,259 'ident':140 'idriv':120 'imit':400 'independ':474 'integr':356 'interfac':108 'intrigu':78 'kinda':398 'kinda-sorta':397 'know':103,115 'knowledg':195 'labor':273 'lemmi':3 'lifetim':85 'like':38,175,261,287,426,447 'linod':468 'linux':480 'long':163,419 'long-term':162 'longev':463 'lose':283 'lot':98 'love':106,199,478 'm':27,67,154,289,352,383,409,511,530 'magic':501 'make':161 'mayb':64 'mean':152 'mediafir':326,405 'mega':170,219,328 'mega.io':172 'mega.io/pro)':171 'megaupload':189 'microsoft':365 'might':131 'mind':42 'mission':477 'much':269,413,514 'need':50,217 'netflix':60 'never':505 'nextcloud':262,521 'noth':137,430 'offer':336 'onedr':322 'option':11 'pay':82 'pcloud':74 'peac':40 'per':241 'perfect':502 'person':246 'plan':86,169 'point':277 'potenti':44 'prefer':389 'pretti':237 'price':61 'principl':461 'privaci':458 'probabl':31,492,519 'product':385 'promis':165,421 'put':531 'quit':253 'rang':25,62 're':428 'readi':68 'realli':16 'say':429 'sens':475 'servic':380,466 'setup':260 'singl':276 'smart':296 'softwar':482 'solid':210 'someth':57,65,345,392,439,446 'sorta':399 'sound':425 'sourc':360,503 'space':47 'specif':168,418 'standardnot':448 'standardnotes.com':450 'standardnotes.com/),':449 'storag':10,90,455,541 'stuff':249,308 'subscrib':55 'suggest':141 'super':124 'sure':156,411 'syncth':264,523 'tb':24 'tell':486 'term':164,271,420 'terrabyt':339 'therefor':213 'thing':230 'think':54,512 'though':233 'thought':71,506,538 'thoughts/reasoning/caveats':247 'too-good-to-be-tru':373 'tri':311 'true':378 'trust':118,158,254,416 'upkeep':274 'upstart':395 'usabl':110 'use':257 've':310 'version':314 'want':17,225,344,371,438 'way':293 'would':388 'www.idrive.com':122 'www.idrive.com/pricing)':121 'www.linode.com':470 'www.linode.com/support-experience/),':469 'www.pcloud.com':76 'www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':75 'year':242 'yet':30 'zero':194"
    +cross: false
    +upVotes: 0
    +downVotes: 0
    +ranking: 1642260128
    +visibility: "visible             "
    +apId: "https://lemmy.ml/post/149005"
    +editedAt: null
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1642173728 {#1793
      date: 2022-01-14 16:22:08.0 +01:00
    }
  }
  +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
  +image: null
  +parent: App\Entity\EntryComment {#4102
    +user: App\Entity\User {#4050 …}
    +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419}
    +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
    +image: null
    +parent: null
    +root: null
    +body: "Terabox has 1tb free, 2tb @54/y"
    +lang: "en"
    +isAdult: false
    +favouriteCount: 1
    +score: 0
    +lastActive: DateTime @1689719794 {#4111
      date: 2023-07-19 00:36:34.0 +02:00
    }
    +ip: null
    +tags: null
    +mentions: [
      "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
    ]
    +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4100 …}
    +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4098 …}
    +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4096 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4094 …}
    +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4062 …}
    +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4066 …}
    -id: 20403
    -bodyTs: "'1tb':3 '2tb':5 '54/y':6 'free':4 'terabox':1"
    +ranking: 0
    +commentCount: 0
    +upVotes: 0
    +downVotes: 0
    +visibility: "visible             "
    +apId: "https://feddit.it/comment/992469"
    +editedAt: null
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689571364 {#4047
      date: 2023-07-17 07:22:44.0 +02:00
    }
  }
  +root: App\Entity\EntryComment {#4102}
  +body: "China based. I wouldn’t put anything private or sensitive on their servers…"
  +lang: "en"
  +isAdult: false
  +favouriteCount: 1
  +score: 0
  +lastActive: DateTime @1689702319 {#4988
    date: 2023-07-18 19:45:19.0 +02:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +tags: null
  +mentions: [
    "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
    "@Suoko@feddit.it"
  ]
  +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4991 …}
  +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4993 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4995 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4997 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4999 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5001 …}
  -id: 21972
  -bodyTs: "'anyth':7 'base':2 'china':1 'privat':8 'put':6 'sensit':10 'server':13 'wouldn':4"
  +ranking: 0
  +commentCount: 0
  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://lemmy.one/comment/1241678"
  +editedAt: null
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689702319 {#4989
    date: 2023-07-18 19:45:19.0 +02:00
  }
}
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
13 DENIED ROLE_USER 
null
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
14 DENIED moderate 
App\Entity\EntryComment {#5043
  +user: App\Entity\User {#4050 …}
  +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419
    +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#1970 …}
    +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265
      +icon: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#246 …}
      +name: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +title: "asklemmy"
      +description: """
        A loosely moderated place to ask open-ended questions\n
        \n
        **[Search asklemmy](https://lemmy.ml/search?q=&type=Posts&listingType=All&communityId=8&page=1&sort=TopAll) 🔍**\n
        \n
        If your post meets the following criteria, it’s welcome here!\n
        \n
        1. Open-ended\n
        2. Not offensive: at this point, we do not have the bandwidth to moderate overtly political discussions\n
        3. **Not regarding using or support for Lemmy**: [context](https://lemmy.ml/post/1223478), find help in the list of support alternatives below\n
        4. Not ad nauseam inducing: please make sure it is a question that would be new to most members\n
        5. [An actual topic of discussion](https://lemmy.ml/post/1239589)\n
        \n
        Support alternatives:\n
        \n
        - [!lemmy_support@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/lemmy_support)\n
        - [!nostupidlemmyquestions@lemmy.dbzer0.com](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/nostupidlemmyquestions)\n
        - [!selfhosted@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/selfhosted)\n
        \n
        ~Icon~ ~by~ ~@Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de~
        """
      +rules: null
      +subscriptionsCount: 0
      +entryCount: 580
      +entryCommentCount: 15558
      +postCount: 7
      +postCommentCount: 129
      +isAdult: false
      +customCss: null
      +lastActive: DateTime @1689748304 {#275
        date: 2023-07-19 08:31:44.0 +02:00
      }
      +markedForDeletionAt: null
      +tags: null
      +moderators: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#237 …}
      +ownershipRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#233 …}
      +moderatorRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#222 …}
      +entries: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#180 …}
      +posts: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#138 …}
      +subscriptions: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#200 …}
      +bans: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#117 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#103 …}
      +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#81 …}
      +logs: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#71 …}
      +awards: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1346 …}
      +categories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1823 …}
      -id: 9
      +apId: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +apProfileId: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apPublicUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apFollowersUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy/followers"
      +apInboxUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/inbox"
      +apDomain: "lemmy.ml"
      +apPreferredUsername: "asklemmy"
      +apDiscoverable: true
      +apManuallyApprovesFollowers: null
      +privateKey: null
      +publicKey: null
      +apFetchedAt: DateTime @1689747596 {#269
        date: 2023-07-19 08:19:56.0 +02:00
      }
      +apDeletedAt: null
      +apTimeoutAt: null
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1686889707 {#271
        date: 2023-06-16 06:28:27.0 +02:00
      }
    }
    +image: null
    +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#1915 …}
    +slug: "Best-options-for-Non-Google-cloud-storage-as-of-2022"
    +title: "Best options for Non-Google cloud storage as of 2022?"
    +url: null
    +body: """
      What are Lemmy’s feelings about the best cloud storage options these days, if you really want to break into the 1-2TB range? I’m not there yet, probably not even halfway there, but I like the peace of mind of potentially having the space if I need it. And I think subscribing to something in the Netflix price range is maybe something I’m ready for.\n
      \n
      My thoughts so far:\n
      \n
      [pcloud](https://www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime) - Intriguing because you can pay for a “lifetime” plan of 2TB of storage. But it’s $350, which is a lot, and I don’t know that I love the interface or usability, and I don’t know if I trust them.\n
      \n
      [iDrive](https://www.idrive.com/pricing) - Super affordable. 5tb for “just” $80/year. It might be the best deal, but nothing about their identity suggests to me that they are “good guys.” By which I mean, I’m not sure I trust them to make long-term promises for any specific plan.\n
      \n
      [Mega](https://mega.io/pro) - I like its very anti-google, very encrypted attitude. Born from the ashes of megaupload, they built encryption and zero knowledge into it. I LOVE that you can connect to it through the android app Solid Explorer and therefore don’t even need the mega app if you don’t want it. I hear bad things about it though? And it’s pretty expensive at $115 per year for 2TB.\n
      \n
      My personal thoughts/reasoning/caveats:\n
      \n
      **Homebrew stuff**: I don’t *quite* trust myself to use a homebrew setup like Nextcloud or Syncthing correctly. There’s too much in terms of labor, upkeep, catastrophic single points of failure where you could lose everything. I feel like I’m 70% of the way to being smart enough to do this.\n
      \n
      **Avoiding the Bad Guys and the Free Stuff**: I’ve tried the free version of just about everything, from Google to Onedrive to Dropbox to Mediafire to Mega. There’s even an android app that offers 1 free terrabyte?? But I don’t want something from the bad guys where I’m going to be integrated into their closed source death drap: Google, Amazon, Microsoft, Apple, and I don’t want a too-good-to-be-true free service where I’m the product.\n
      \n
      I also would prefer to avoid something from the upstarts who kinda-sorta imitate the bad guys: Dropbox, Mediafire, Box. Because I’m not sure how much I can trust any specific long term promise from them.\n
      \n
      **It sounds like you’re saying nothing is good enough! What exactly do you want!?** Something from good guys, not bad guys. Something like [Standardnotes](https://standardnotes.com/), but for file storage. They emphasize privacy, good governance principles and longevity of their service. Or [Linode](https://www.linode.com/support-experience/), with their independence, sense of mission, love of Linux & free software, all of which tells me they are good guys.\n
      \n
      Probably the correct answer is (1) here’s this magical perfect source I never thought of, or (2) I’m thinking this much about it, I should probably do Nextcloud or syncthing given all the constraints that I’m putting out there.\n
      \n
      Anyway, that’s my thoughts on cloud storage. What are yours?
      """
    +type: "article"
    +lang: "en"
    +isOc: false
    +hasEmbed: false
    +commentCount: 25
    +favouriteCount: 41
    +score: 0
    +isAdult: false
    +sticky: false
    +lastActive: DateTime @1689719793 {#2414
      date: 2023-07-19 00:36:33.0 +02:00
    }
    +ip: null
    +adaAmount: 0
    +tags: null
    +mentions: null
    +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1884 …}
    +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1973 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1959 …}
    +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1927 …}
    +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2442 …}
    +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2440 …}
    +children: []
    -id: 1294
    -titleTs: "'2022':11 'best':1 'cloud':7 'googl':6 'non':5 'non-googl':4 'option':2 'storag':8"
    -bodyTs: "'-2':23 '/),':451 '/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':77 '/pricing)':123 '/pro)':173 '/support-experience/),':471 '1':22,337,497 '115':240 '2':509 '2tb':88,244 '350':94 '5tb':126 '70':290 '80/year':129 'afford':125 'also':387 'amazon':364 'android':208,333 'answer':495 'anti':179 'anti-googl':178 'anyway':534 'app':209,220,334 'appl':366 'ash':187 'attitud':183 'avoid':301,391 'bad':229,303,348,402,444 'best':8,134 'born':184 'box':406 'break':19 'built':191 'catastroph':275 'close':359 'cloud':9,540 'connect':203 'constraint':527 'correct':265,494 'could':282 'day':13 'deal':135 'death':361 'drap':362 'dropbox':324,404 'emphas':457 'encrypt':182,192 'enough':297,433 'even':33,216,331 'everyth':284,318 'exact':435 'expens':238 'explor':211 'failur':279 'far':73 'feel':5,286 'file':454 'free':307,313,338,379,481 'given':524 'go':353 'good':147,375,432,441,459,490 'googl':180,320,363 'govern':460 'guy':148,304,349,403,442,445,491 'halfway':34 'hear':228 'homebrew':248,259 'ident':140 'idriv':120 'imit':400 'independ':474 'integr':356 'interfac':108 'intrigu':78 'kinda':398 'kinda-sorta':397 'know':103,115 'knowledg':195 'labor':273 'lemmi':3 'lifetim':85 'like':38,175,261,287,426,447 'linod':468 'linux':480 'long':163,419 'long-term':162 'longev':463 'lose':283 'lot':98 'love':106,199,478 'm':27,67,154,289,352,383,409,511,530 'magic':501 'make':161 'mayb':64 'mean':152 'mediafir':326,405 'mega':170,219,328 'mega.io':172 'mega.io/pro)':171 'megaupload':189 'microsoft':365 'might':131 'mind':42 'mission':477 'much':269,413,514 'need':50,217 'netflix':60 'never':505 'nextcloud':262,521 'noth':137,430 'offer':336 'onedr':322 'option':11 'pay':82 'pcloud':74 'peac':40 'per':241 'perfect':502 'person':246 'plan':86,169 'point':277 'potenti':44 'prefer':389 'pretti':237 'price':61 'principl':461 'privaci':458 'probabl':31,492,519 'product':385 'promis':165,421 'put':531 'quit':253 'rang':25,62 're':428 'readi':68 'realli':16 'say':429 'sens':475 'servic':380,466 'setup':260 'singl':276 'smart':296 'softwar':482 'solid':210 'someth':57,65,345,392,439,446 'sorta':399 'sound':425 'sourc':360,503 'space':47 'specif':168,418 'standardnot':448 'standardnotes.com':450 'standardnotes.com/),':449 'storag':10,90,455,541 'stuff':249,308 'subscrib':55 'suggest':141 'super':124 'sure':156,411 'syncth':264,523 'tb':24 'tell':486 'term':164,271,420 'terrabyt':339 'therefor':213 'thing':230 'think':54,512 'though':233 'thought':71,506,538 'thoughts/reasoning/caveats':247 'too-good-to-be-tru':373 'tri':311 'true':378 'trust':118,158,254,416 'upkeep':274 'upstart':395 'usabl':110 'use':257 've':310 'version':314 'want':17,225,344,371,438 'way':293 'would':388 'www.idrive.com':122 'www.idrive.com/pricing)':121 'www.linode.com':470 'www.linode.com/support-experience/),':469 'www.pcloud.com':76 'www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':75 'year':242 'yet':30 'zero':194"
    +cross: false
    +upVotes: 0
    +downVotes: 0
    +ranking: 1642260128
    +visibility: "visible             "
    +apId: "https://lemmy.ml/post/149005"
    +editedAt: null
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1642173728 {#1793
      date: 2022-01-14 16:22:08.0 +01:00
    }
  }
  +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
  +image: null
  +parent: App\Entity\EntryComment {#4990
    +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#4913 …}
    +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419}
    +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
    +image: null
    +parent: App\Entity\EntryComment {#4102
      +user: App\Entity\User {#4050 …}
      +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419}
      +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
      +image: null
      +parent: null
      +root: null
      +body: "Terabox has 1tb free, 2tb @54/y"
      +lang: "en"
      +isAdult: false
      +favouriteCount: 1
      +score: 0
      +lastActive: DateTime @1689719794 {#4111
        date: 2023-07-19 00:36:34.0 +02:00
      }
      +ip: null
      +tags: null
      +mentions: [
        "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
      ]
      +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4100 …}
      +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4098 …}
      +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4096 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4094 …}
      +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4062 …}
      +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4066 …}
      -id: 20403
      -bodyTs: "'1tb':3 '2tb':5 '54/y':6 'free':4 'terabox':1"
      +ranking: 0
      +commentCount: 0
      +upVotes: 0
      +downVotes: 0
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +apId: "https://feddit.it/comment/992469"
      +editedAt: null
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689571364 {#4047
        date: 2023-07-17 07:22:44.0 +02:00
      }
    }
    +root: App\Entity\EntryComment {#4102}
    +body: "China based. I wouldn’t put anything private or sensitive on their servers…"
    +lang: "en"
    +isAdult: false
    +favouriteCount: 1
    +score: 0
    +lastActive: DateTime @1689702319 {#4988
      date: 2023-07-18 19:45:19.0 +02:00
    }
    +ip: null
    +tags: null
    +mentions: [
      "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
      "@Suoko@feddit.it"
    ]
    +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4991 …}
    +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4993 …}
    +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4995 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4997 …}
    +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4999 …}
    +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5001 …}
    -id: 21972
    -bodyTs: "'anyth':7 'base':2 'china':1 'privat':8 'put':6 'sensit':10 'server':13 'wouldn':4"
    +ranking: 0
    +commentCount: 0
    +upVotes: 0
    +downVotes: 0
    +visibility: "visible             "
    +apId: "https://lemmy.one/comment/1241678"
    +editedAt: null
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689702319 {#4989
      date: 2023-07-18 19:45:19.0 +02:00
    }
  }
  +root: App\Entity\EntryComment {#4102}
  +body: "I’m not sure if thinking that all China is shit is either biased or racist"
  +lang: "en"
  +isAdult: false
  +favouriteCount: 1
  +score: 0
  +lastActive: DateTime @1689712271 {#5041
    date: 2023-07-18 22:31:11.0 +02:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +tags: null
  +mentions: [
    "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
    "@Suoko@feddit.it"
    "@PeachMan@lemmy.one"
  ]
  +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5044 …}
  +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5046 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5048 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5050 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5052 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5054 …}
  -id: 22048
  -bodyTs: "'bias':14 'china':9 'either':13 'm':2 'racist':16 'shit':11 'sure':4 'think':6"
  +ranking: 0
  +commentCount: 0
  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://feddit.it/comment/1040623"
  +editedAt: null
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689712271 {#5042
    date: 2023-07-18 22:31:11.0 +02:00
  }
}
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
15 DENIED edit 
App\Entity\EntryComment {#5043
  +user: App\Entity\User {#4050 …}
  +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419
    +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#1970 …}
    +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265
      +icon: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#246 …}
      +name: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +title: "asklemmy"
      +description: """
        A loosely moderated place to ask open-ended questions\n
        \n
        **[Search asklemmy](https://lemmy.ml/search?q=&type=Posts&listingType=All&communityId=8&page=1&sort=TopAll) 🔍**\n
        \n
        If your post meets the following criteria, it’s welcome here!\n
        \n
        1. Open-ended\n
        2. Not offensive: at this point, we do not have the bandwidth to moderate overtly political discussions\n
        3. **Not regarding using or support for Lemmy**: [context](https://lemmy.ml/post/1223478), find help in the list of support alternatives below\n
        4. Not ad nauseam inducing: please make sure it is a question that would be new to most members\n
        5. [An actual topic of discussion](https://lemmy.ml/post/1239589)\n
        \n
        Support alternatives:\n
        \n
        - [!lemmy_support@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/lemmy_support)\n
        - [!nostupidlemmyquestions@lemmy.dbzer0.com](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/nostupidlemmyquestions)\n
        - [!selfhosted@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/selfhosted)\n
        \n
        ~Icon~ ~by~ ~@Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de~
        """
      +rules: null
      +subscriptionsCount: 0
      +entryCount: 580
      +entryCommentCount: 15558
      +postCount: 7
      +postCommentCount: 129
      +isAdult: false
      +customCss: null
      +lastActive: DateTime @1689748304 {#275
        date: 2023-07-19 08:31:44.0 +02:00
      }
      +markedForDeletionAt: null
      +tags: null
      +moderators: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#237 …}
      +ownershipRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#233 …}
      +moderatorRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#222 …}
      +entries: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#180 …}
      +posts: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#138 …}
      +subscriptions: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#200 …}
      +bans: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#117 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#103 …}
      +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#81 …}
      +logs: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#71 …}
      +awards: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1346 …}
      +categories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1823 …}
      -id: 9
      +apId: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +apProfileId: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apPublicUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apFollowersUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy/followers"
      +apInboxUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/inbox"
      +apDomain: "lemmy.ml"
      +apPreferredUsername: "asklemmy"
      +apDiscoverable: true
      +apManuallyApprovesFollowers: null
      +privateKey: null
      +publicKey: null
      +apFetchedAt: DateTime @1689747596 {#269
        date: 2023-07-19 08:19:56.0 +02:00
      }
      +apDeletedAt: null
      +apTimeoutAt: null
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1686889707 {#271
        date: 2023-06-16 06:28:27.0 +02:00
      }
    }
    +image: null
    +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#1915 …}
    +slug: "Best-options-for-Non-Google-cloud-storage-as-of-2022"
    +title: "Best options for Non-Google cloud storage as of 2022?"
    +url: null
    +body: """
      What are Lemmy’s feelings about the best cloud storage options these days, if you really want to break into the 1-2TB range? I’m not there yet, probably not even halfway there, but I like the peace of mind of potentially having the space if I need it. And I think subscribing to something in the Netflix price range is maybe something I’m ready for.\n
      \n
      My thoughts so far:\n
      \n
      [pcloud](https://www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime) - Intriguing because you can pay for a “lifetime” plan of 2TB of storage. But it’s $350, which is a lot, and I don’t know that I love the interface or usability, and I don’t know if I trust them.\n
      \n
      [iDrive](https://www.idrive.com/pricing) - Super affordable. 5tb for “just” $80/year. It might be the best deal, but nothing about their identity suggests to me that they are “good guys.” By which I mean, I’m not sure I trust them to make long-term promises for any specific plan.\n
      \n
      [Mega](https://mega.io/pro) - I like its very anti-google, very encrypted attitude. Born from the ashes of megaupload, they built encryption and zero knowledge into it. I LOVE that you can connect to it through the android app Solid Explorer and therefore don’t even need the mega app if you don’t want it. I hear bad things about it though? And it’s pretty expensive at $115 per year for 2TB.\n
      \n
      My personal thoughts/reasoning/caveats:\n
      \n
      **Homebrew stuff**: I don’t *quite* trust myself to use a homebrew setup like Nextcloud or Syncthing correctly. There’s too much in terms of labor, upkeep, catastrophic single points of failure where you could lose everything. I feel like I’m 70% of the way to being smart enough to do this.\n
      \n
      **Avoiding the Bad Guys and the Free Stuff**: I’ve tried the free version of just about everything, from Google to Onedrive to Dropbox to Mediafire to Mega. There’s even an android app that offers 1 free terrabyte?? But I don’t want something from the bad guys where I’m going to be integrated into their closed source death drap: Google, Amazon, Microsoft, Apple, and I don’t want a too-good-to-be-true free service where I’m the product.\n
      \n
      I also would prefer to avoid something from the upstarts who kinda-sorta imitate the bad guys: Dropbox, Mediafire, Box. Because I’m not sure how much I can trust any specific long term promise from them.\n
      \n
      **It sounds like you’re saying nothing is good enough! What exactly do you want!?** Something from good guys, not bad guys. Something like [Standardnotes](https://standardnotes.com/), but for file storage. They emphasize privacy, good governance principles and longevity of their service. Or [Linode](https://www.linode.com/support-experience/), with their independence, sense of mission, love of Linux & free software, all of which tells me they are good guys.\n
      \n
      Probably the correct answer is (1) here’s this magical perfect source I never thought of, or (2) I’m thinking this much about it, I should probably do Nextcloud or syncthing given all the constraints that I’m putting out there.\n
      \n
      Anyway, that’s my thoughts on cloud storage. What are yours?
      """
    +type: "article"
    +lang: "en"
    +isOc: false
    +hasEmbed: false
    +commentCount: 25
    +favouriteCount: 41
    +score: 0
    +isAdult: false
    +sticky: false
    +lastActive: DateTime @1689719793 {#2414
      date: 2023-07-19 00:36:33.0 +02:00
    }
    +ip: null
    +adaAmount: 0
    +tags: null
    +mentions: null
    +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1884 …}
    +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1973 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1959 …}
    +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1927 …}
    +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2442 …}
    +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2440 …}
    +children: []
    -id: 1294
    -titleTs: "'2022':11 'best':1 'cloud':7 'googl':6 'non':5 'non-googl':4 'option':2 'storag':8"
    -bodyTs: "'-2':23 '/),':451 '/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':77 '/pricing)':123 '/pro)':173 '/support-experience/),':471 '1':22,337,497 '115':240 '2':509 '2tb':88,244 '350':94 '5tb':126 '70':290 '80/year':129 'afford':125 'also':387 'amazon':364 'android':208,333 'answer':495 'anti':179 'anti-googl':178 'anyway':534 'app':209,220,334 'appl':366 'ash':187 'attitud':183 'avoid':301,391 'bad':229,303,348,402,444 'best':8,134 'born':184 'box':406 'break':19 'built':191 'catastroph':275 'close':359 'cloud':9,540 'connect':203 'constraint':527 'correct':265,494 'could':282 'day':13 'deal':135 'death':361 'drap':362 'dropbox':324,404 'emphas':457 'encrypt':182,192 'enough':297,433 'even':33,216,331 'everyth':284,318 'exact':435 'expens':238 'explor':211 'failur':279 'far':73 'feel':5,286 'file':454 'free':307,313,338,379,481 'given':524 'go':353 'good':147,375,432,441,459,490 'googl':180,320,363 'govern':460 'guy':148,304,349,403,442,445,491 'halfway':34 'hear':228 'homebrew':248,259 'ident':140 'idriv':120 'imit':400 'independ':474 'integr':356 'interfac':108 'intrigu':78 'kinda':398 'kinda-sorta':397 'know':103,115 'knowledg':195 'labor':273 'lemmi':3 'lifetim':85 'like':38,175,261,287,426,447 'linod':468 'linux':480 'long':163,419 'long-term':162 'longev':463 'lose':283 'lot':98 'love':106,199,478 'm':27,67,154,289,352,383,409,511,530 'magic':501 'make':161 'mayb':64 'mean':152 'mediafir':326,405 'mega':170,219,328 'mega.io':172 'mega.io/pro)':171 'megaupload':189 'microsoft':365 'might':131 'mind':42 'mission':477 'much':269,413,514 'need':50,217 'netflix':60 'never':505 'nextcloud':262,521 'noth':137,430 'offer':336 'onedr':322 'option':11 'pay':82 'pcloud':74 'peac':40 'per':241 'perfect':502 'person':246 'plan':86,169 'point':277 'potenti':44 'prefer':389 'pretti':237 'price':61 'principl':461 'privaci':458 'probabl':31,492,519 'product':385 'promis':165,421 'put':531 'quit':253 'rang':25,62 're':428 'readi':68 'realli':16 'say':429 'sens':475 'servic':380,466 'setup':260 'singl':276 'smart':296 'softwar':482 'solid':210 'someth':57,65,345,392,439,446 'sorta':399 'sound':425 'sourc':360,503 'space':47 'specif':168,418 'standardnot':448 'standardnotes.com':450 'standardnotes.com/),':449 'storag':10,90,455,541 'stuff':249,308 'subscrib':55 'suggest':141 'super':124 'sure':156,411 'syncth':264,523 'tb':24 'tell':486 'term':164,271,420 'terrabyt':339 'therefor':213 'thing':230 'think':54,512 'though':233 'thought':71,506,538 'thoughts/reasoning/caveats':247 'too-good-to-be-tru':373 'tri':311 'true':378 'trust':118,158,254,416 'upkeep':274 'upstart':395 'usabl':110 'use':257 've':310 'version':314 'want':17,225,344,371,438 'way':293 'would':388 'www.idrive.com':122 'www.idrive.com/pricing)':121 'www.linode.com':470 'www.linode.com/support-experience/),':469 'www.pcloud.com':76 'www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':75 'year':242 'yet':30 'zero':194"
    +cross: false
    +upVotes: 0
    +downVotes: 0
    +ranking: 1642260128
    +visibility: "visible             "
    +apId: "https://lemmy.ml/post/149005"
    +editedAt: null
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1642173728 {#1793
      date: 2022-01-14 16:22:08.0 +01:00
    }
  }
  +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
  +image: null
  +parent: App\Entity\EntryComment {#4990
    +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#4913 …}
    +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419}
    +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
    +image: null
    +parent: App\Entity\EntryComment {#4102
      +user: App\Entity\User {#4050 …}
      +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419}
      +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
      +image: null
      +parent: null
      +root: null
      +body: "Terabox has 1tb free, 2tb @54/y"
      +lang: "en"
      +isAdult: false
      +favouriteCount: 1
      +score: 0
      +lastActive: DateTime @1689719794 {#4111
        date: 2023-07-19 00:36:34.0 +02:00
      }
      +ip: null
      +tags: null
      +mentions: [
        "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
      ]
      +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4100 …}
      +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4098 …}
      +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4096 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4094 …}
      +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4062 …}
      +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4066 …}
      -id: 20403
      -bodyTs: "'1tb':3 '2tb':5 '54/y':6 'free':4 'terabox':1"
      +ranking: 0
      +commentCount: 0
      +upVotes: 0
      +downVotes: 0
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +apId: "https://feddit.it/comment/992469"
      +editedAt: null
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689571364 {#4047
        date: 2023-07-17 07:22:44.0 +02:00
      }
    }
    +root: App\Entity\EntryComment {#4102}
    +body: "China based. I wouldn’t put anything private or sensitive on their servers…"
    +lang: "en"
    +isAdult: false
    +favouriteCount: 1
    +score: 0
    +lastActive: DateTime @1689702319 {#4988
      date: 2023-07-18 19:45:19.0 +02:00
    }
    +ip: null
    +tags: null
    +mentions: [
      "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
      "@Suoko@feddit.it"
    ]
    +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4991 …}
    +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4993 …}
    +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4995 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4997 …}
    +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4999 …}
    +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5001 …}
    -id: 21972
    -bodyTs: "'anyth':7 'base':2 'china':1 'privat':8 'put':6 'sensit':10 'server':13 'wouldn':4"
    +ranking: 0
    +commentCount: 0
    +upVotes: 0
    +downVotes: 0
    +visibility: "visible             "
    +apId: "https://lemmy.one/comment/1241678"
    +editedAt: null
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689702319 {#4989
      date: 2023-07-18 19:45:19.0 +02:00
    }
  }
  +root: App\Entity\EntryComment {#4102}
  +body: "I’m not sure if thinking that all China is shit is either biased or racist"
  +lang: "en"
  +isAdult: false
  +favouriteCount: 1
  +score: 0
  +lastActive: DateTime @1689712271 {#5041
    date: 2023-07-18 22:31:11.0 +02:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +tags: null
  +mentions: [
    "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
    "@Suoko@feddit.it"
    "@PeachMan@lemmy.one"
  ]
  +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5044 …}
  +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5046 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5048 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5050 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5052 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5054 …}
  -id: 22048
  -bodyTs: "'bias':14 'china':9 'either':13 'm':2 'racist':16 'shit':11 'sure':4 'think':6"
  +ranking: 0
  +commentCount: 0
  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://feddit.it/comment/1040623"
  +editedAt: null
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689712271 {#5042
    date: 2023-07-18 22:31:11.0 +02:00
  }
}
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
16 DENIED moderate 
App\Entity\EntryComment {#5043
  +user: App\Entity\User {#4050 …}
  +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419
    +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#1970 …}
    +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265
      +icon: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#246 …}
      +name: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +title: "asklemmy"
      +description: """
        A loosely moderated place to ask open-ended questions\n
        \n
        **[Search asklemmy](https://lemmy.ml/search?q=&type=Posts&listingType=All&communityId=8&page=1&sort=TopAll) 🔍**\n
        \n
        If your post meets the following criteria, it’s welcome here!\n
        \n
        1. Open-ended\n
        2. Not offensive: at this point, we do not have the bandwidth to moderate overtly political discussions\n
        3. **Not regarding using or support for Lemmy**: [context](https://lemmy.ml/post/1223478), find help in the list of support alternatives below\n
        4. Not ad nauseam inducing: please make sure it is a question that would be new to most members\n
        5. [An actual topic of discussion](https://lemmy.ml/post/1239589)\n
        \n
        Support alternatives:\n
        \n
        - [!lemmy_support@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/lemmy_support)\n
        - [!nostupidlemmyquestions@lemmy.dbzer0.com](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/nostupidlemmyquestions)\n
        - [!selfhosted@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/selfhosted)\n
        \n
        ~Icon~ ~by~ ~@Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de~
        """
      +rules: null
      +subscriptionsCount: 0
      +entryCount: 580
      +entryCommentCount: 15558
      +postCount: 7
      +postCommentCount: 129
      +isAdult: false
      +customCss: null
      +lastActive: DateTime @1689748304 {#275
        date: 2023-07-19 08:31:44.0 +02:00
      }
      +markedForDeletionAt: null
      +tags: null
      +moderators: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#237 …}
      +ownershipRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#233 …}
      +moderatorRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#222 …}
      +entries: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#180 …}
      +posts: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#138 …}
      +subscriptions: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#200 …}
      +bans: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#117 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#103 …}
      +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#81 …}
      +logs: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#71 …}
      +awards: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1346 …}
      +categories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1823 …}
      -id: 9
      +apId: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +apProfileId: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apPublicUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apFollowersUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy/followers"
      +apInboxUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/inbox"
      +apDomain: "lemmy.ml"
      +apPreferredUsername: "asklemmy"
      +apDiscoverable: true
      +apManuallyApprovesFollowers: null
      +privateKey: null
      +publicKey: null
      +apFetchedAt: DateTime @1689747596 {#269
        date: 2023-07-19 08:19:56.0 +02:00
      }
      +apDeletedAt: null
      +apTimeoutAt: null
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1686889707 {#271
        date: 2023-06-16 06:28:27.0 +02:00
      }
    }
    +image: null
    +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#1915 …}
    +slug: "Best-options-for-Non-Google-cloud-storage-as-of-2022"
    +title: "Best options for Non-Google cloud storage as of 2022?"
    +url: null
    +body: """
      What are Lemmy’s feelings about the best cloud storage options these days, if you really want to break into the 1-2TB range? I’m not there yet, probably not even halfway there, but I like the peace of mind of potentially having the space if I need it. And I think subscribing to something in the Netflix price range is maybe something I’m ready for.\n
      \n
      My thoughts so far:\n
      \n
      [pcloud](https://www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime) - Intriguing because you can pay for a “lifetime” plan of 2TB of storage. But it’s $350, which is a lot, and I don’t know that I love the interface or usability, and I don’t know if I trust them.\n
      \n
      [iDrive](https://www.idrive.com/pricing) - Super affordable. 5tb for “just” $80/year. It might be the best deal, but nothing about their identity suggests to me that they are “good guys.” By which I mean, I’m not sure I trust them to make long-term promises for any specific plan.\n
      \n
      [Mega](https://mega.io/pro) - I like its very anti-google, very encrypted attitude. Born from the ashes of megaupload, they built encryption and zero knowledge into it. I LOVE that you can connect to it through the android app Solid Explorer and therefore don’t even need the mega app if you don’t want it. I hear bad things about it though? And it’s pretty expensive at $115 per year for 2TB.\n
      \n
      My personal thoughts/reasoning/caveats:\n
      \n
      **Homebrew stuff**: I don’t *quite* trust myself to use a homebrew setup like Nextcloud or Syncthing correctly. There’s too much in terms of labor, upkeep, catastrophic single points of failure where you could lose everything. I feel like I’m 70% of the way to being smart enough to do this.\n
      \n
      **Avoiding the Bad Guys and the Free Stuff**: I’ve tried the free version of just about everything, from Google to Onedrive to Dropbox to Mediafire to Mega. There’s even an android app that offers 1 free terrabyte?? But I don’t want something from the bad guys where I’m going to be integrated into their closed source death drap: Google, Amazon, Microsoft, Apple, and I don’t want a too-good-to-be-true free service where I’m the product.\n
      \n
      I also would prefer to avoid something from the upstarts who kinda-sorta imitate the bad guys: Dropbox, Mediafire, Box. Because I’m not sure how much I can trust any specific long term promise from them.\n
      \n
      **It sounds like you’re saying nothing is good enough! What exactly do you want!?** Something from good guys, not bad guys. Something like [Standardnotes](https://standardnotes.com/), but for file storage. They emphasize privacy, good governance principles and longevity of their service. Or [Linode](https://www.linode.com/support-experience/), with their independence, sense of mission, love of Linux & free software, all of which tells me they are good guys.\n
      \n
      Probably the correct answer is (1) here’s this magical perfect source I never thought of, or (2) I’m thinking this much about it, I should probably do Nextcloud or syncthing given all the constraints that I’m putting out there.\n
      \n
      Anyway, that’s my thoughts on cloud storage. What are yours?
      """
    +type: "article"
    +lang: "en"
    +isOc: false
    +hasEmbed: false
    +commentCount: 25
    +favouriteCount: 41
    +score: 0
    +isAdult: false
    +sticky: false
    +lastActive: DateTime @1689719793 {#2414
      date: 2023-07-19 00:36:33.0 +02:00
    }
    +ip: null
    +adaAmount: 0
    +tags: null
    +mentions: null
    +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1884 …}
    +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1973 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1959 …}
    +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1927 …}
    +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2442 …}
    +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2440 …}
    +children: []
    -id: 1294
    -titleTs: "'2022':11 'best':1 'cloud':7 'googl':6 'non':5 'non-googl':4 'option':2 'storag':8"
    -bodyTs: "'-2':23 '/),':451 '/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':77 '/pricing)':123 '/pro)':173 '/support-experience/),':471 '1':22,337,497 '115':240 '2':509 '2tb':88,244 '350':94 '5tb':126 '70':290 '80/year':129 'afford':125 'also':387 'amazon':364 'android':208,333 'answer':495 'anti':179 'anti-googl':178 'anyway':534 'app':209,220,334 'appl':366 'ash':187 'attitud':183 'avoid':301,391 'bad':229,303,348,402,444 'best':8,134 'born':184 'box':406 'break':19 'built':191 'catastroph':275 'close':359 'cloud':9,540 'connect':203 'constraint':527 'correct':265,494 'could':282 'day':13 'deal':135 'death':361 'drap':362 'dropbox':324,404 'emphas':457 'encrypt':182,192 'enough':297,433 'even':33,216,331 'everyth':284,318 'exact':435 'expens':238 'explor':211 'failur':279 'far':73 'feel':5,286 'file':454 'free':307,313,338,379,481 'given':524 'go':353 'good':147,375,432,441,459,490 'googl':180,320,363 'govern':460 'guy':148,304,349,403,442,445,491 'halfway':34 'hear':228 'homebrew':248,259 'ident':140 'idriv':120 'imit':400 'independ':474 'integr':356 'interfac':108 'intrigu':78 'kinda':398 'kinda-sorta':397 'know':103,115 'knowledg':195 'labor':273 'lemmi':3 'lifetim':85 'like':38,175,261,287,426,447 'linod':468 'linux':480 'long':163,419 'long-term':162 'longev':463 'lose':283 'lot':98 'love':106,199,478 'm':27,67,154,289,352,383,409,511,530 'magic':501 'make':161 'mayb':64 'mean':152 'mediafir':326,405 'mega':170,219,328 'mega.io':172 'mega.io/pro)':171 'megaupload':189 'microsoft':365 'might':131 'mind':42 'mission':477 'much':269,413,514 'need':50,217 'netflix':60 'never':505 'nextcloud':262,521 'noth':137,430 'offer':336 'onedr':322 'option':11 'pay':82 'pcloud':74 'peac':40 'per':241 'perfect':502 'person':246 'plan':86,169 'point':277 'potenti':44 'prefer':389 'pretti':237 'price':61 'principl':461 'privaci':458 'probabl':31,492,519 'product':385 'promis':165,421 'put':531 'quit':253 'rang':25,62 're':428 'readi':68 'realli':16 'say':429 'sens':475 'servic':380,466 'setup':260 'singl':276 'smart':296 'softwar':482 'solid':210 'someth':57,65,345,392,439,446 'sorta':399 'sound':425 'sourc':360,503 'space':47 'specif':168,418 'standardnot':448 'standardnotes.com':450 'standardnotes.com/),':449 'storag':10,90,455,541 'stuff':249,308 'subscrib':55 'suggest':141 'super':124 'sure':156,411 'syncth':264,523 'tb':24 'tell':486 'term':164,271,420 'terrabyt':339 'therefor':213 'thing':230 'think':54,512 'though':233 'thought':71,506,538 'thoughts/reasoning/caveats':247 'too-good-to-be-tru':373 'tri':311 'true':378 'trust':118,158,254,416 'upkeep':274 'upstart':395 'usabl':110 'use':257 've':310 'version':314 'want':17,225,344,371,438 'way':293 'would':388 'www.idrive.com':122 'www.idrive.com/pricing)':121 'www.linode.com':470 'www.linode.com/support-experience/),':469 'www.pcloud.com':76 'www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':75 'year':242 'yet':30 'zero':194"
    +cross: false
    +upVotes: 0
    +downVotes: 0
    +ranking: 1642260128
    +visibility: "visible             "
    +apId: "https://lemmy.ml/post/149005"
    +editedAt: null
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1642173728 {#1793
      date: 2022-01-14 16:22:08.0 +01:00
    }
  }
  +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
  +image: null
  +parent: App\Entity\EntryComment {#4990
    +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#4913 …}
    +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419}
    +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
    +image: null
    +parent: App\Entity\EntryComment {#4102
      +user: App\Entity\User {#4050 …}
      +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419}
      +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
      +image: null
      +parent: null
      +root: null
      +body: "Terabox has 1tb free, 2tb @54/y"
      +lang: "en"
      +isAdult: false
      +favouriteCount: 1
      +score: 0
      +lastActive: DateTime @1689719794 {#4111
        date: 2023-07-19 00:36:34.0 +02:00
      }
      +ip: null
      +tags: null
      +mentions: [
        "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
      ]
      +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4100 …}
      +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4098 …}
      +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4096 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4094 …}
      +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4062 …}
      +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4066 …}
      -id: 20403
      -bodyTs: "'1tb':3 '2tb':5 '54/y':6 'free':4 'terabox':1"
      +ranking: 0
      +commentCount: 0
      +upVotes: 0
      +downVotes: 0
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +apId: "https://feddit.it/comment/992469"
      +editedAt: null
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689571364 {#4047
        date: 2023-07-17 07:22:44.0 +02:00
      }
    }
    +root: App\Entity\EntryComment {#4102}
    +body: "China based. I wouldn’t put anything private or sensitive on their servers…"
    +lang: "en"
    +isAdult: false
    +favouriteCount: 1
    +score: 0
    +lastActive: DateTime @1689702319 {#4988
      date: 2023-07-18 19:45:19.0 +02:00
    }
    +ip: null
    +tags: null
    +mentions: [
      "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
      "@Suoko@feddit.it"
    ]
    +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4991 …}
    +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4993 …}
    +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4995 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4997 …}
    +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4999 …}
    +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5001 …}
    -id: 21972
    -bodyTs: "'anyth':7 'base':2 'china':1 'privat':8 'put':6 'sensit':10 'server':13 'wouldn':4"
    +ranking: 0
    +commentCount: 0
    +upVotes: 0
    +downVotes: 0
    +visibility: "visible             "
    +apId: "https://lemmy.one/comment/1241678"
    +editedAt: null
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689702319 {#4989
      date: 2023-07-18 19:45:19.0 +02:00
    }
  }
  +root: App\Entity\EntryComment {#4102}
  +body: "I’m not sure if thinking that all China is shit is either biased or racist"
  +lang: "en"
  +isAdult: false
  +favouriteCount: 1
  +score: 0
  +lastActive: DateTime @1689712271 {#5041
    date: 2023-07-18 22:31:11.0 +02:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +tags: null
  +mentions: [
    "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
    "@Suoko@feddit.it"
    "@PeachMan@lemmy.one"
  ]
  +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5044 …}
  +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5046 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5048 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5050 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5052 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5054 …}
  -id: 22048
  -bodyTs: "'bias':14 'china':9 'either':13 'm':2 'racist':16 'shit':11 'sure':4 'think':6"
  +ranking: 0
  +commentCount: 0
  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://feddit.it/comment/1040623"
  +editedAt: null
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689712271 {#5042
    date: 2023-07-18 22:31:11.0 +02:00
  }
}
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
17 DENIED ROLE_USER 
null
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
18 DENIED moderate 
App\Entity\EntryComment {#5110
  +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#4913 …}
  +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419
    +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#1970 …}
    +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265
      +icon: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#246 …}
      +name: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +title: "asklemmy"
      +description: """
        A loosely moderated place to ask open-ended questions\n
        \n
        **[Search asklemmy](https://lemmy.ml/search?q=&type=Posts&listingType=All&communityId=8&page=1&sort=TopAll) 🔍**\n
        \n
        If your post meets the following criteria, it’s welcome here!\n
        \n
        1. Open-ended\n
        2. Not offensive: at this point, we do not have the bandwidth to moderate overtly political discussions\n
        3. **Not regarding using or support for Lemmy**: [context](https://lemmy.ml/post/1223478), find help in the list of support alternatives below\n
        4. Not ad nauseam inducing: please make sure it is a question that would be new to most members\n
        5. [An actual topic of discussion](https://lemmy.ml/post/1239589)\n
        \n
        Support alternatives:\n
        \n
        - [!lemmy_support@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/lemmy_support)\n
        - [!nostupidlemmyquestions@lemmy.dbzer0.com](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/nostupidlemmyquestions)\n
        - [!selfhosted@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/selfhosted)\n
        \n
        ~Icon~ ~by~ ~@Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de~
        """
      +rules: null
      +subscriptionsCount: 0
      +entryCount: 580
      +entryCommentCount: 15558
      +postCount: 7
      +postCommentCount: 129
      +isAdult: false
      +customCss: null
      +lastActive: DateTime @1689748304 {#275
        date: 2023-07-19 08:31:44.0 +02:00
      }
      +markedForDeletionAt: null
      +tags: null
      +moderators: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#237 …}
      +ownershipRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#233 …}
      +moderatorRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#222 …}
      +entries: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#180 …}
      +posts: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#138 …}
      +subscriptions: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#200 …}
      +bans: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#117 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#103 …}
      +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#81 …}
      +logs: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#71 …}
      +awards: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1346 …}
      +categories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1823 …}
      -id: 9
      +apId: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +apProfileId: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apPublicUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apFollowersUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy/followers"
      +apInboxUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/inbox"
      +apDomain: "lemmy.ml"
      +apPreferredUsername: "asklemmy"
      +apDiscoverable: true
      +apManuallyApprovesFollowers: null
      +privateKey: null
      +publicKey: null
      +apFetchedAt: DateTime @1689747596 {#269
        date: 2023-07-19 08:19:56.0 +02:00
      }
      +apDeletedAt: null
      +apTimeoutAt: null
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1686889707 {#271
        date: 2023-06-16 06:28:27.0 +02:00
      }
    }
    +image: null
    +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#1915 …}
    +slug: "Best-options-for-Non-Google-cloud-storage-as-of-2022"
    +title: "Best options for Non-Google cloud storage as of 2022?"
    +url: null
    +body: """
      What are Lemmy’s feelings about the best cloud storage options these days, if you really want to break into the 1-2TB range? I’m not there yet, probably not even halfway there, but I like the peace of mind of potentially having the space if I need it. And I think subscribing to something in the Netflix price range is maybe something I’m ready for.\n
      \n
      My thoughts so far:\n
      \n
      [pcloud](https://www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime) - Intriguing because you can pay for a “lifetime” plan of 2TB of storage. But it’s $350, which is a lot, and I don’t know that I love the interface or usability, and I don’t know if I trust them.\n
      \n
      [iDrive](https://www.idrive.com/pricing) - Super affordable. 5tb for “just” $80/year. It might be the best deal, but nothing about their identity suggests to me that they are “good guys.” By which I mean, I’m not sure I trust them to make long-term promises for any specific plan.\n
      \n
      [Mega](https://mega.io/pro) - I like its very anti-google, very encrypted attitude. Born from the ashes of megaupload, they built encryption and zero knowledge into it. I LOVE that you can connect to it through the android app Solid Explorer and therefore don’t even need the mega app if you don’t want it. I hear bad things about it though? And it’s pretty expensive at $115 per year for 2TB.\n
      \n
      My personal thoughts/reasoning/caveats:\n
      \n
      **Homebrew stuff**: I don’t *quite* trust myself to use a homebrew setup like Nextcloud or Syncthing correctly. There’s too much in terms of labor, upkeep, catastrophic single points of failure where you could lose everything. I feel like I’m 70% of the way to being smart enough to do this.\n
      \n
      **Avoiding the Bad Guys and the Free Stuff**: I’ve tried the free version of just about everything, from Google to Onedrive to Dropbox to Mediafire to Mega. There’s even an android app that offers 1 free terrabyte?? But I don’t want something from the bad guys where I’m going to be integrated into their closed source death drap: Google, Amazon, Microsoft, Apple, and I don’t want a too-good-to-be-true free service where I’m the product.\n
      \n
      I also would prefer to avoid something from the upstarts who kinda-sorta imitate the bad guys: Dropbox, Mediafire, Box. Because I’m not sure how much I can trust any specific long term promise from them.\n
      \n
      **It sounds like you’re saying nothing is good enough! What exactly do you want!?** Something from good guys, not bad guys. Something like [Standardnotes](https://standardnotes.com/), but for file storage. They emphasize privacy, good governance principles and longevity of their service. Or [Linode](https://www.linode.com/support-experience/), with their independence, sense of mission, love of Linux & free software, all of which tells me they are good guys.\n
      \n
      Probably the correct answer is (1) here’s this magical perfect source I never thought of, or (2) I’m thinking this much about it, I should probably do Nextcloud or syncthing given all the constraints that I’m putting out there.\n
      \n
      Anyway, that’s my thoughts on cloud storage. What are yours?
      """
    +type: "article"
    +lang: "en"
    +isOc: false
    +hasEmbed: false
    +commentCount: 25
    +favouriteCount: 41
    +score: 0
    +isAdult: false
    +sticky: false
    +lastActive: DateTime @1689719793 {#2414
      date: 2023-07-19 00:36:33.0 +02:00
    }
    +ip: null
    +adaAmount: 0
    +tags: null
    +mentions: null
    +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1884 …}
    +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1973 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1959 …}
    +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1927 …}
    +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2442 …}
    +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2440 …}
    +children: []
    -id: 1294
    -titleTs: "'2022':11 'best':1 'cloud':7 'googl':6 'non':5 'non-googl':4 'option':2 'storag':8"
    -bodyTs: "'-2':23 '/),':451 '/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':77 '/pricing)':123 '/pro)':173 '/support-experience/),':471 '1':22,337,497 '115':240 '2':509 '2tb':88,244 '350':94 '5tb':126 '70':290 '80/year':129 'afford':125 'also':387 'amazon':364 'android':208,333 'answer':495 'anti':179 'anti-googl':178 'anyway':534 'app':209,220,334 'appl':366 'ash':187 'attitud':183 'avoid':301,391 'bad':229,303,348,402,444 'best':8,134 'born':184 'box':406 'break':19 'built':191 'catastroph':275 'close':359 'cloud':9,540 'connect':203 'constraint':527 'correct':265,494 'could':282 'day':13 'deal':135 'death':361 'drap':362 'dropbox':324,404 'emphas':457 'encrypt':182,192 'enough':297,433 'even':33,216,331 'everyth':284,318 'exact':435 'expens':238 'explor':211 'failur':279 'far':73 'feel':5,286 'file':454 'free':307,313,338,379,481 'given':524 'go':353 'good':147,375,432,441,459,490 'googl':180,320,363 'govern':460 'guy':148,304,349,403,442,445,491 'halfway':34 'hear':228 'homebrew':248,259 'ident':140 'idriv':120 'imit':400 'independ':474 'integr':356 'interfac':108 'intrigu':78 'kinda':398 'kinda-sorta':397 'know':103,115 'knowledg':195 'labor':273 'lemmi':3 'lifetim':85 'like':38,175,261,287,426,447 'linod':468 'linux':480 'long':163,419 'long-term':162 'longev':463 'lose':283 'lot':98 'love':106,199,478 'm':27,67,154,289,352,383,409,511,530 'magic':501 'make':161 'mayb':64 'mean':152 'mediafir':326,405 'mega':170,219,328 'mega.io':172 'mega.io/pro)':171 'megaupload':189 'microsoft':365 'might':131 'mind':42 'mission':477 'much':269,413,514 'need':50,217 'netflix':60 'never':505 'nextcloud':262,521 'noth':137,430 'offer':336 'onedr':322 'option':11 'pay':82 'pcloud':74 'peac':40 'per':241 'perfect':502 'person':246 'plan':86,169 'point':277 'potenti':44 'prefer':389 'pretti':237 'price':61 'principl':461 'privaci':458 'probabl':31,492,519 'product':385 'promis':165,421 'put':531 'quit':253 'rang':25,62 're':428 'readi':68 'realli':16 'say':429 'sens':475 'servic':380,466 'setup':260 'singl':276 'smart':296 'softwar':482 'solid':210 'someth':57,65,345,392,439,446 'sorta':399 'sound':425 'sourc':360,503 'space':47 'specif':168,418 'standardnot':448 'standardnotes.com':450 'standardnotes.com/),':449 'storag':10,90,455,541 'stuff':249,308 'subscrib':55 'suggest':141 'super':124 'sure':156,411 'syncth':264,523 'tb':24 'tell':486 'term':164,271,420 'terrabyt':339 'therefor':213 'thing':230 'think':54,512 'though':233 'thought':71,506,538 'thoughts/reasoning/caveats':247 'too-good-to-be-tru':373 'tri':311 'true':378 'trust':118,158,254,416 'upkeep':274 'upstart':395 'usabl':110 'use':257 've':310 'version':314 'want':17,225,344,371,438 'way':293 'would':388 'www.idrive.com':122 'www.idrive.com/pricing)':121 'www.linode.com':470 'www.linode.com/support-experience/),':469 'www.pcloud.com':76 'www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':75 'year':242 'yet':30 'zero':194"
    +cross: false
    +upVotes: 0
    +downVotes: 0
    +ranking: 1642260128
    +visibility: "visible             "
    +apId: "https://lemmy.ml/post/149005"
    +editedAt: null
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1642173728 {#1793
      date: 2022-01-14 16:22:08.0 +01:00
    }
  }
  +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
  +image: null
  +parent: App\Entity\EntryComment {#5043
    +user: App\Entity\User {#4050 …}
    +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419}
    +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
    +image: null
    +parent: App\Entity\EntryComment {#4990
      +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#4913 …}
      +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419}
      +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
      +image: null
      +parent: App\Entity\EntryComment {#4102
        +user: App\Entity\User {#4050 …}
        +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419}
        +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
        +image: null
        +parent: null
        +root: null
        +body: "Terabox has 1tb free, 2tb @54/y"
        +lang: "en"
        +isAdult: false
        +favouriteCount: 1
        +score: 0
        +lastActive: DateTime @1689719794 {#4111
          date: 2023-07-19 00:36:34.0 +02:00
        }
        +ip: null
        +tags: null
        +mentions: [
          "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
        ]
        +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4100 …}
        +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4098 …}
        +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4096 …}
        +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4094 …}
        +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4062 …}
        +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4066 …}
        -id: 20403
        -bodyTs: "'1tb':3 '2tb':5 '54/y':6 'free':4 'terabox':1"
        +ranking: 0
        +commentCount: 0
        +upVotes: 0
        +downVotes: 0
        +visibility: "visible             "
        +apId: "https://feddit.it/comment/992469"
        +editedAt: null
        +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689571364 {#4047
          date: 2023-07-17 07:22:44.0 +02:00
        }
      }
      +root: App\Entity\EntryComment {#4102}
      +body: "China based. I wouldn’t put anything private or sensitive on their servers…"
      +lang: "en"
      +isAdult: false
      +favouriteCount: 1
      +score: 0
      +lastActive: DateTime @1689702319 {#4988
        date: 2023-07-18 19:45:19.0 +02:00
      }
      +ip: null
      +tags: null
      +mentions: [
        "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
        "@Suoko@feddit.it"
      ]
      +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4991 …}
      +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4993 …}
      +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4995 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4997 …}
      +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4999 …}
      +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5001 …}
      -id: 21972
      -bodyTs: "'anyth':7 'base':2 'china':1 'privat':8 'put':6 'sensit':10 'server':13 'wouldn':4"
      +ranking: 0
      +commentCount: 0
      +upVotes: 0
      +downVotes: 0
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +apId: "https://lemmy.one/comment/1241678"
      +editedAt: null
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689702319 {#4989
        date: 2023-07-18 19:45:19.0 +02:00
      }
    }
    +root: App\Entity\EntryComment {#4102}
    +body: "I’m not sure if thinking that all China is shit is either biased or racist"
    +lang: "en"
    +isAdult: false
    +favouriteCount: 1
    +score: 0
    +lastActive: DateTime @1689712271 {#5041
      date: 2023-07-18 22:31:11.0 +02:00
    }
    +ip: null
    +tags: null
    +mentions: [
      "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
      "@Suoko@feddit.it"
      "@PeachMan@lemmy.one"
    ]
    +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5044 …}
    +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5046 …}
    +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5048 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5050 …}
    +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5052 …}
    +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5054 …}
    -id: 22048
    -bodyTs: "'bias':14 'china':9 'either':13 'm':2 'racist':16 'shit':11 'sure':4 'think':6"
    +ranking: 0
    +commentCount: 0
    +upVotes: 0
    +downVotes: 0
    +visibility: "visible             "
    +apId: "https://feddit.it/comment/1040623"
    +editedAt: null
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689712271 {#5042
      date: 2023-07-18 22:31:11.0 +02:00
    }
  }
  +root: App\Entity\EntryComment {#4102}
  +body: """
    Did I say that “all China is shit”? Don’t put words in my mouth.\n
    \n
    I’d like to avoid hosting personal things on Chinese servers because the Chinese government is too powerful, and surveils everything. They don’t even act otherwise.\n
    \n
    I would also totally understand if people don’t want to host things on US servers for their own reasons.\n
    \n
    Sorry for not fitting into your weird narrative.
    """
  +lang: "en"
  +isAdult: false
  +favouriteCount: 0
  +score: 0
  +lastActive: DateTime @1689719793 {#5108
    date: 2023-07-19 00:36:33.0 +02:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +tags: null
  +mentions: [
    "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
    "@Suoko@feddit.it"
    "@PeachMan@lemmy.one"
  ]
  +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5111 …}
  +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5113 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5115 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5117 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5119 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5121 …}
  -id: 22128
  -bodyTs: "'act':41 'also':45 'avoid':20 'china':6 'chines':25,29 'd':17 'even':40 'everyth':36 'fit':66 'govern':30 'host':21,54 'like':18 'mouth':15 'narrat':70 'otherwis':42 'peopl':49 'person':22 'power':33 'put':11 'reason':62 'say':3 'server':26,58 'shit':8 'sorri':63 'surveil':35 'thing':23,55 'total':46 'understand':47 'us':57 'want':52 'weird':69 'word':12 'would':44"
  +ranking: 0
  +commentCount: 0
  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://lemmy.one/comment/1250217"
  +editedAt: null
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689719793 {#5109
    date: 2023-07-19 00:36:33.0 +02:00
  }
}
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
19 DENIED edit 
App\Entity\EntryComment {#5110
  +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#4913 …}
  +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419
    +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#1970 …}
    +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265
      +icon: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#246 …}
      +name: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +title: "asklemmy"
      +description: """
        A loosely moderated place to ask open-ended questions\n
        \n
        **[Search asklemmy](https://lemmy.ml/search?q=&type=Posts&listingType=All&communityId=8&page=1&sort=TopAll) 🔍**\n
        \n
        If your post meets the following criteria, it’s welcome here!\n
        \n
        1. Open-ended\n
        2. Not offensive: at this point, we do not have the bandwidth to moderate overtly political discussions\n
        3. **Not regarding using or support for Lemmy**: [context](https://lemmy.ml/post/1223478), find help in the list of support alternatives below\n
        4. Not ad nauseam inducing: please make sure it is a question that would be new to most members\n
        5. [An actual topic of discussion](https://lemmy.ml/post/1239589)\n
        \n
        Support alternatives:\n
        \n
        - [!lemmy_support@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/lemmy_support)\n
        - [!nostupidlemmyquestions@lemmy.dbzer0.com](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/nostupidlemmyquestions)\n
        - [!selfhosted@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/selfhosted)\n
        \n
        ~Icon~ ~by~ ~@Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de~
        """
      +rules: null
      +subscriptionsCount: 0
      +entryCount: 580
      +entryCommentCount: 15558
      +postCount: 7
      +postCommentCount: 129
      +isAdult: false
      +customCss: null
      +lastActive: DateTime @1689748304 {#275
        date: 2023-07-19 08:31:44.0 +02:00
      }
      +markedForDeletionAt: null
      +tags: null
      +moderators: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#237 …}
      +ownershipRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#233 …}
      +moderatorRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#222 …}
      +entries: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#180 …}
      +posts: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#138 …}
      +subscriptions: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#200 …}
      +bans: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#117 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#103 …}
      +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#81 …}
      +logs: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#71 …}
      +awards: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1346 …}
      +categories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1823 …}
      -id: 9
      +apId: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +apProfileId: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apPublicUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apFollowersUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy/followers"
      +apInboxUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/inbox"
      +apDomain: "lemmy.ml"
      +apPreferredUsername: "asklemmy"
      +apDiscoverable: true
      +apManuallyApprovesFollowers: null
      +privateKey: null
      +publicKey: null
      +apFetchedAt: DateTime @1689747596 {#269
        date: 2023-07-19 08:19:56.0 +02:00
      }
      +apDeletedAt: null
      +apTimeoutAt: null
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1686889707 {#271
        date: 2023-06-16 06:28:27.0 +02:00
      }
    }
    +image: null
    +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#1915 …}
    +slug: "Best-options-for-Non-Google-cloud-storage-as-of-2022"
    +title: "Best options for Non-Google cloud storage as of 2022?"
    +url: null
    +body: """
      What are Lemmy’s feelings about the best cloud storage options these days, if you really want to break into the 1-2TB range? I’m not there yet, probably not even halfway there, but I like the peace of mind of potentially having the space if I need it. And I think subscribing to something in the Netflix price range is maybe something I’m ready for.\n
      \n
      My thoughts so far:\n
      \n
      [pcloud](https://www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime) - Intriguing because you can pay for a “lifetime” plan of 2TB of storage. But it’s $350, which is a lot, and I don’t know that I love the interface or usability, and I don’t know if I trust them.\n
      \n
      [iDrive](https://www.idrive.com/pricing) - Super affordable. 5tb for “just” $80/year. It might be the best deal, but nothing about their identity suggests to me that they are “good guys.” By which I mean, I’m not sure I trust them to make long-term promises for any specific plan.\n
      \n
      [Mega](https://mega.io/pro) - I like its very anti-google, very encrypted attitude. Born from the ashes of megaupload, they built encryption and zero knowledge into it. I LOVE that you can connect to it through the android app Solid Explorer and therefore don’t even need the mega app if you don’t want it. I hear bad things about it though? And it’s pretty expensive at $115 per year for 2TB.\n
      \n
      My personal thoughts/reasoning/caveats:\n
      \n
      **Homebrew stuff**: I don’t *quite* trust myself to use a homebrew setup like Nextcloud or Syncthing correctly. There’s too much in terms of labor, upkeep, catastrophic single points of failure where you could lose everything. I feel like I’m 70% of the way to being smart enough to do this.\n
      \n
      **Avoiding the Bad Guys and the Free Stuff**: I’ve tried the free version of just about everything, from Google to Onedrive to Dropbox to Mediafire to Mega. There’s even an android app that offers 1 free terrabyte?? But I don’t want something from the bad guys where I’m going to be integrated into their closed source death drap: Google, Amazon, Microsoft, Apple, and I don’t want a too-good-to-be-true free service where I’m the product.\n
      \n
      I also would prefer to avoid something from the upstarts who kinda-sorta imitate the bad guys: Dropbox, Mediafire, Box. Because I’m not sure how much I can trust any specific long term promise from them.\n
      \n
      **It sounds like you’re saying nothing is good enough! What exactly do you want!?** Something from good guys, not bad guys. Something like [Standardnotes](https://standardnotes.com/), but for file storage. They emphasize privacy, good governance principles and longevity of their service. Or [Linode](https://www.linode.com/support-experience/), with their independence, sense of mission, love of Linux & free software, all of which tells me they are good guys.\n
      \n
      Probably the correct answer is (1) here’s this magical perfect source I never thought of, or (2) I’m thinking this much about it, I should probably do Nextcloud or syncthing given all the constraints that I’m putting out there.\n
      \n
      Anyway, that’s my thoughts on cloud storage. What are yours?
      """
    +type: "article"
    +lang: "en"
    +isOc: false
    +hasEmbed: false
    +commentCount: 25
    +favouriteCount: 41
    +score: 0
    +isAdult: false
    +sticky: false
    +lastActive: DateTime @1689719793 {#2414
      date: 2023-07-19 00:36:33.0 +02:00
    }
    +ip: null
    +adaAmount: 0
    +tags: null
    +mentions: null
    +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1884 …}
    +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1973 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1959 …}
    +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1927 …}
    +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2442 …}
    +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2440 …}
    +children: []
    -id: 1294
    -titleTs: "'2022':11 'best':1 'cloud':7 'googl':6 'non':5 'non-googl':4 'option':2 'storag':8"
    -bodyTs: "'-2':23 '/),':451 '/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':77 '/pricing)':123 '/pro)':173 '/support-experience/),':471 '1':22,337,497 '115':240 '2':509 '2tb':88,244 '350':94 '5tb':126 '70':290 '80/year':129 'afford':125 'also':387 'amazon':364 'android':208,333 'answer':495 'anti':179 'anti-googl':178 'anyway':534 'app':209,220,334 'appl':366 'ash':187 'attitud':183 'avoid':301,391 'bad':229,303,348,402,444 'best':8,134 'born':184 'box':406 'break':19 'built':191 'catastroph':275 'close':359 'cloud':9,540 'connect':203 'constraint':527 'correct':265,494 'could':282 'day':13 'deal':135 'death':361 'drap':362 'dropbox':324,404 'emphas':457 'encrypt':182,192 'enough':297,433 'even':33,216,331 'everyth':284,318 'exact':435 'expens':238 'explor':211 'failur':279 'far':73 'feel':5,286 'file':454 'free':307,313,338,379,481 'given':524 'go':353 'good':147,375,432,441,459,490 'googl':180,320,363 'govern':460 'guy':148,304,349,403,442,445,491 'halfway':34 'hear':228 'homebrew':248,259 'ident':140 'idriv':120 'imit':400 'independ':474 'integr':356 'interfac':108 'intrigu':78 'kinda':398 'kinda-sorta':397 'know':103,115 'knowledg':195 'labor':273 'lemmi':3 'lifetim':85 'like':38,175,261,287,426,447 'linod':468 'linux':480 'long':163,419 'long-term':162 'longev':463 'lose':283 'lot':98 'love':106,199,478 'm':27,67,154,289,352,383,409,511,530 'magic':501 'make':161 'mayb':64 'mean':152 'mediafir':326,405 'mega':170,219,328 'mega.io':172 'mega.io/pro)':171 'megaupload':189 'microsoft':365 'might':131 'mind':42 'mission':477 'much':269,413,514 'need':50,217 'netflix':60 'never':505 'nextcloud':262,521 'noth':137,430 'offer':336 'onedr':322 'option':11 'pay':82 'pcloud':74 'peac':40 'per':241 'perfect':502 'person':246 'plan':86,169 'point':277 'potenti':44 'prefer':389 'pretti':237 'price':61 'principl':461 'privaci':458 'probabl':31,492,519 'product':385 'promis':165,421 'put':531 'quit':253 'rang':25,62 're':428 'readi':68 'realli':16 'say':429 'sens':475 'servic':380,466 'setup':260 'singl':276 'smart':296 'softwar':482 'solid':210 'someth':57,65,345,392,439,446 'sorta':399 'sound':425 'sourc':360,503 'space':47 'specif':168,418 'standardnot':448 'standardnotes.com':450 'standardnotes.com/),':449 'storag':10,90,455,541 'stuff':249,308 'subscrib':55 'suggest':141 'super':124 'sure':156,411 'syncth':264,523 'tb':24 'tell':486 'term':164,271,420 'terrabyt':339 'therefor':213 'thing':230 'think':54,512 'though':233 'thought':71,506,538 'thoughts/reasoning/caveats':247 'too-good-to-be-tru':373 'tri':311 'true':378 'trust':118,158,254,416 'upkeep':274 'upstart':395 'usabl':110 'use':257 've':310 'version':314 'want':17,225,344,371,438 'way':293 'would':388 'www.idrive.com':122 'www.idrive.com/pricing)':121 'www.linode.com':470 'www.linode.com/support-experience/),':469 'www.pcloud.com':76 'www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':75 'year':242 'yet':30 'zero':194"
    +cross: false
    +upVotes: 0
    +downVotes: 0
    +ranking: 1642260128
    +visibility: "visible             "
    +apId: "https://lemmy.ml/post/149005"
    +editedAt: null
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1642173728 {#1793
      date: 2022-01-14 16:22:08.0 +01:00
    }
  }
  +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
  +image: null
  +parent: App\Entity\EntryComment {#5043
    +user: App\Entity\User {#4050 …}
    +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419}
    +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
    +image: null
    +parent: App\Entity\EntryComment {#4990
      +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#4913 …}
      +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419}
      +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
      +image: null
      +parent: App\Entity\EntryComment {#4102
        +user: App\Entity\User {#4050 …}
        +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419}
        +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
        +image: null
        +parent: null
        +root: null
        +body: "Terabox has 1tb free, 2tb @54/y"
        +lang: "en"
        +isAdult: false
        +favouriteCount: 1
        +score: 0
        +lastActive: DateTime @1689719794 {#4111
          date: 2023-07-19 00:36:34.0 +02:00
        }
        +ip: null
        +tags: null
        +mentions: [
          "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
        ]
        +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4100 …}
        +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4098 …}
        +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4096 …}
        +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4094 …}
        +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4062 …}
        +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4066 …}
        -id: 20403
        -bodyTs: "'1tb':3 '2tb':5 '54/y':6 'free':4 'terabox':1"
        +ranking: 0
        +commentCount: 0
        +upVotes: 0
        +downVotes: 0
        +visibility: "visible             "
        +apId: "https://feddit.it/comment/992469"
        +editedAt: null
        +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689571364 {#4047
          date: 2023-07-17 07:22:44.0 +02:00
        }
      }
      +root: App\Entity\EntryComment {#4102}
      +body: "China based. I wouldn’t put anything private or sensitive on their servers…"
      +lang: "en"
      +isAdult: false
      +favouriteCount: 1
      +score: 0
      +lastActive: DateTime @1689702319 {#4988
        date: 2023-07-18 19:45:19.0 +02:00
      }
      +ip: null
      +tags: null
      +mentions: [
        "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
        "@Suoko@feddit.it"
      ]
      +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4991 …}
      +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4993 …}
      +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4995 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4997 …}
      +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4999 …}
      +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5001 …}
      -id: 21972
      -bodyTs: "'anyth':7 'base':2 'china':1 'privat':8 'put':6 'sensit':10 'server':13 'wouldn':4"
      +ranking: 0
      +commentCount: 0
      +upVotes: 0
      +downVotes: 0
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +apId: "https://lemmy.one/comment/1241678"
      +editedAt: null
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689702319 {#4989
        date: 2023-07-18 19:45:19.0 +02:00
      }
    }
    +root: App\Entity\EntryComment {#4102}
    +body: "I’m not sure if thinking that all China is shit is either biased or racist"
    +lang: "en"
    +isAdult: false
    +favouriteCount: 1
    +score: 0
    +lastActive: DateTime @1689712271 {#5041
      date: 2023-07-18 22:31:11.0 +02:00
    }
    +ip: null
    +tags: null
    +mentions: [
      "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
      "@Suoko@feddit.it"
      "@PeachMan@lemmy.one"
    ]
    +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5044 …}
    +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5046 …}
    +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5048 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5050 …}
    +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5052 …}
    +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5054 …}
    -id: 22048
    -bodyTs: "'bias':14 'china':9 'either':13 'm':2 'racist':16 'shit':11 'sure':4 'think':6"
    +ranking: 0
    +commentCount: 0
    +upVotes: 0
    +downVotes: 0
    +visibility: "visible             "
    +apId: "https://feddit.it/comment/1040623"
    +editedAt: null
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689712271 {#5042
      date: 2023-07-18 22:31:11.0 +02:00
    }
  }
  +root: App\Entity\EntryComment {#4102}
  +body: """
    Did I say that “all China is shit”? Don’t put words in my mouth.\n
    \n
    I’d like to avoid hosting personal things on Chinese servers because the Chinese government is too powerful, and surveils everything. They don’t even act otherwise.\n
    \n
    I would also totally understand if people don’t want to host things on US servers for their own reasons.\n
    \n
    Sorry for not fitting into your weird narrative.
    """
  +lang: "en"
  +isAdult: false
  +favouriteCount: 0
  +score: 0
  +lastActive: DateTime @1689719793 {#5108
    date: 2023-07-19 00:36:33.0 +02:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +tags: null
  +mentions: [
    "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
    "@Suoko@feddit.it"
    "@PeachMan@lemmy.one"
  ]
  +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5111 …}
  +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5113 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5115 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5117 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5119 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5121 …}
  -id: 22128
  -bodyTs: "'act':41 'also':45 'avoid':20 'china':6 'chines':25,29 'd':17 'even':40 'everyth':36 'fit':66 'govern':30 'host':21,54 'like':18 'mouth':15 'narrat':70 'otherwis':42 'peopl':49 'person':22 'power':33 'put':11 'reason':62 'say':3 'server':26,58 'shit':8 'sorri':63 'surveil':35 'thing':23,55 'total':46 'understand':47 'us':57 'want':52 'weird':69 'word':12 'would':44"
  +ranking: 0
  +commentCount: 0
  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://lemmy.one/comment/1250217"
  +editedAt: null
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689719793 {#5109
    date: 2023-07-19 00:36:33.0 +02:00
  }
}
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
20 DENIED moderate 
App\Entity\EntryComment {#5110
  +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#4913 …}
  +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419
    +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#1970 …}
    +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265
      +icon: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#246 …}
      +name: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +title: "asklemmy"
      +description: """
        A loosely moderated place to ask open-ended questions\n
        \n
        **[Search asklemmy](https://lemmy.ml/search?q=&type=Posts&listingType=All&communityId=8&page=1&sort=TopAll) 🔍**\n
        \n
        If your post meets the following criteria, it’s welcome here!\n
        \n
        1. Open-ended\n
        2. Not offensive: at this point, we do not have the bandwidth to moderate overtly political discussions\n
        3. **Not regarding using or support for Lemmy**: [context](https://lemmy.ml/post/1223478), find help in the list of support alternatives below\n
        4. Not ad nauseam inducing: please make sure it is a question that would be new to most members\n
        5. [An actual topic of discussion](https://lemmy.ml/post/1239589)\n
        \n
        Support alternatives:\n
        \n
        - [!lemmy_support@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/lemmy_support)\n
        - [!nostupidlemmyquestions@lemmy.dbzer0.com](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/nostupidlemmyquestions)\n
        - [!selfhosted@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/selfhosted)\n
        \n
        ~Icon~ ~by~ ~@Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de~
        """
      +rules: null
      +subscriptionsCount: 0
      +entryCount: 580
      +entryCommentCount: 15558
      +postCount: 7
      +postCommentCount: 129
      +isAdult: false
      +customCss: null
      +lastActive: DateTime @1689748304 {#275
        date: 2023-07-19 08:31:44.0 +02:00
      }
      +markedForDeletionAt: null
      +tags: null
      +moderators: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#237 …}
      +ownershipRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#233 …}
      +moderatorRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#222 …}
      +entries: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#180 …}
      +posts: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#138 …}
      +subscriptions: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#200 …}
      +bans: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#117 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#103 …}
      +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#81 …}
      +logs: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#71 …}
      +awards: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1346 …}
      +categories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1823 …}
      -id: 9
      +apId: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +apProfileId: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apPublicUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apFollowersUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy/followers"
      +apInboxUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/inbox"
      +apDomain: "lemmy.ml"
      +apPreferredUsername: "asklemmy"
      +apDiscoverable: true
      +apManuallyApprovesFollowers: null
      +privateKey: null
      +publicKey: null
      +apFetchedAt: DateTime @1689747596 {#269
        date: 2023-07-19 08:19:56.0 +02:00
      }
      +apDeletedAt: null
      +apTimeoutAt: null
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1686889707 {#271
        date: 2023-06-16 06:28:27.0 +02:00
      }
    }
    +image: null
    +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#1915 …}
    +slug: "Best-options-for-Non-Google-cloud-storage-as-of-2022"
    +title: "Best options for Non-Google cloud storage as of 2022?"
    +url: null
    +body: """
      What are Lemmy’s feelings about the best cloud storage options these days, if you really want to break into the 1-2TB range? I’m not there yet, probably not even halfway there, but I like the peace of mind of potentially having the space if I need it. And I think subscribing to something in the Netflix price range is maybe something I’m ready for.\n
      \n
      My thoughts so far:\n
      \n
      [pcloud](https://www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime) - Intriguing because you can pay for a “lifetime” plan of 2TB of storage. But it’s $350, which is a lot, and I don’t know that I love the interface or usability, and I don’t know if I trust them.\n
      \n
      [iDrive](https://www.idrive.com/pricing) - Super affordable. 5tb for “just” $80/year. It might be the best deal, but nothing about their identity suggests to me that they are “good guys.” By which I mean, I’m not sure I trust them to make long-term promises for any specific plan.\n
      \n
      [Mega](https://mega.io/pro) - I like its very anti-google, very encrypted attitude. Born from the ashes of megaupload, they built encryption and zero knowledge into it. I LOVE that you can connect to it through the android app Solid Explorer and therefore don’t even need the mega app if you don’t want it. I hear bad things about it though? And it’s pretty expensive at $115 per year for 2TB.\n
      \n
      My personal thoughts/reasoning/caveats:\n
      \n
      **Homebrew stuff**: I don’t *quite* trust myself to use a homebrew setup like Nextcloud or Syncthing correctly. There’s too much in terms of labor, upkeep, catastrophic single points of failure where you could lose everything. I feel like I’m 70% of the way to being smart enough to do this.\n
      \n
      **Avoiding the Bad Guys and the Free Stuff**: I’ve tried the free version of just about everything, from Google to Onedrive to Dropbox to Mediafire to Mega. There’s even an android app that offers 1 free terrabyte?? But I don’t want something from the bad guys where I’m going to be integrated into their closed source death drap: Google, Amazon, Microsoft, Apple, and I don’t want a too-good-to-be-true free service where I’m the product.\n
      \n
      I also would prefer to avoid something from the upstarts who kinda-sorta imitate the bad guys: Dropbox, Mediafire, Box. Because I’m not sure how much I can trust any specific long term promise from them.\n
      \n
      **It sounds like you’re saying nothing is good enough! What exactly do you want!?** Something from good guys, not bad guys. Something like [Standardnotes](https://standardnotes.com/), but for file storage. They emphasize privacy, good governance principles and longevity of their service. Or [Linode](https://www.linode.com/support-experience/), with their independence, sense of mission, love of Linux & free software, all of which tells me they are good guys.\n
      \n
      Probably the correct answer is (1) here’s this magical perfect source I never thought of, or (2) I’m thinking this much about it, I should probably do Nextcloud or syncthing given all the constraints that I’m putting out there.\n
      \n
      Anyway, that’s my thoughts on cloud storage. What are yours?
      """
    +type: "article"
    +lang: "en"
    +isOc: false
    +hasEmbed: false
    +commentCount: 25
    +favouriteCount: 41
    +score: 0
    +isAdult: false
    +sticky: false
    +lastActive: DateTime @1689719793 {#2414
      date: 2023-07-19 00:36:33.0 +02:00
    }
    +ip: null
    +adaAmount: 0
    +tags: null
    +mentions: null
    +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1884 …}
    +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1973 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1959 …}
    +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1927 …}
    +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2442 …}
    +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2440 …}
    +children: []
    -id: 1294
    -titleTs: "'2022':11 'best':1 'cloud':7 'googl':6 'non':5 'non-googl':4 'option':2 'storag':8"
    -bodyTs: "'-2':23 '/),':451 '/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':77 '/pricing)':123 '/pro)':173 '/support-experience/),':471 '1':22,337,497 '115':240 '2':509 '2tb':88,244 '350':94 '5tb':126 '70':290 '80/year':129 'afford':125 'also':387 'amazon':364 'android':208,333 'answer':495 'anti':179 'anti-googl':178 'anyway':534 'app':209,220,334 'appl':366 'ash':187 'attitud':183 'avoid':301,391 'bad':229,303,348,402,444 'best':8,134 'born':184 'box':406 'break':19 'built':191 'catastroph':275 'close':359 'cloud':9,540 'connect':203 'constraint':527 'correct':265,494 'could':282 'day':13 'deal':135 'death':361 'drap':362 'dropbox':324,404 'emphas':457 'encrypt':182,192 'enough':297,433 'even':33,216,331 'everyth':284,318 'exact':435 'expens':238 'explor':211 'failur':279 'far':73 'feel':5,286 'file':454 'free':307,313,338,379,481 'given':524 'go':353 'good':147,375,432,441,459,490 'googl':180,320,363 'govern':460 'guy':148,304,349,403,442,445,491 'halfway':34 'hear':228 'homebrew':248,259 'ident':140 'idriv':120 'imit':400 'independ':474 'integr':356 'interfac':108 'intrigu':78 'kinda':398 'kinda-sorta':397 'know':103,115 'knowledg':195 'labor':273 'lemmi':3 'lifetim':85 'like':38,175,261,287,426,447 'linod':468 'linux':480 'long':163,419 'long-term':162 'longev':463 'lose':283 'lot':98 'love':106,199,478 'm':27,67,154,289,352,383,409,511,530 'magic':501 'make':161 'mayb':64 'mean':152 'mediafir':326,405 'mega':170,219,328 'mega.io':172 'mega.io/pro)':171 'megaupload':189 'microsoft':365 'might':131 'mind':42 'mission':477 'much':269,413,514 'need':50,217 'netflix':60 'never':505 'nextcloud':262,521 'noth':137,430 'offer':336 'onedr':322 'option':11 'pay':82 'pcloud':74 'peac':40 'per':241 'perfect':502 'person':246 'plan':86,169 'point':277 'potenti':44 'prefer':389 'pretti':237 'price':61 'principl':461 'privaci':458 'probabl':31,492,519 'product':385 'promis':165,421 'put':531 'quit':253 'rang':25,62 're':428 'readi':68 'realli':16 'say':429 'sens':475 'servic':380,466 'setup':260 'singl':276 'smart':296 'softwar':482 'solid':210 'someth':57,65,345,392,439,446 'sorta':399 'sound':425 'sourc':360,503 'space':47 'specif':168,418 'standardnot':448 'standardnotes.com':450 'standardnotes.com/),':449 'storag':10,90,455,541 'stuff':249,308 'subscrib':55 'suggest':141 'super':124 'sure':156,411 'syncth':264,523 'tb':24 'tell':486 'term':164,271,420 'terrabyt':339 'therefor':213 'thing':230 'think':54,512 'though':233 'thought':71,506,538 'thoughts/reasoning/caveats':247 'too-good-to-be-tru':373 'tri':311 'true':378 'trust':118,158,254,416 'upkeep':274 'upstart':395 'usabl':110 'use':257 've':310 'version':314 'want':17,225,344,371,438 'way':293 'would':388 'www.idrive.com':122 'www.idrive.com/pricing)':121 'www.linode.com':470 'www.linode.com/support-experience/),':469 'www.pcloud.com':76 'www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':75 'year':242 'yet':30 'zero':194"
    +cross: false
    +upVotes: 0
    +downVotes: 0
    +ranking: 1642260128
    +visibility: "visible             "
    +apId: "https://lemmy.ml/post/149005"
    +editedAt: null
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1642173728 {#1793
      date: 2022-01-14 16:22:08.0 +01:00
    }
  }
  +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
  +image: null
  +parent: App\Entity\EntryComment {#5043
    +user: App\Entity\User {#4050 …}
    +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419}
    +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
    +image: null
    +parent: App\Entity\EntryComment {#4990
      +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#4913 …}
      +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419}
      +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
      +image: null
      +parent: App\Entity\EntryComment {#4102
        +user: App\Entity\User {#4050 …}
        +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419}
        +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
        +image: null
        +parent: null
        +root: null
        +body: "Terabox has 1tb free, 2tb @54/y"
        +lang: "en"
        +isAdult: false
        +favouriteCount: 1
        +score: 0
        +lastActive: DateTime @1689719794 {#4111
          date: 2023-07-19 00:36:34.0 +02:00
        }
        +ip: null
        +tags: null
        +mentions: [
          "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
        ]
        +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4100 …}
        +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4098 …}
        +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4096 …}
        +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4094 …}
        +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4062 …}
        +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4066 …}
        -id: 20403
        -bodyTs: "'1tb':3 '2tb':5 '54/y':6 'free':4 'terabox':1"
        +ranking: 0
        +commentCount: 0
        +upVotes: 0
        +downVotes: 0
        +visibility: "visible             "
        +apId: "https://feddit.it/comment/992469"
        +editedAt: null
        +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689571364 {#4047
          date: 2023-07-17 07:22:44.0 +02:00
        }
      }
      +root: App\Entity\EntryComment {#4102}
      +body: "China based. I wouldn’t put anything private or sensitive on their servers…"
      +lang: "en"
      +isAdult: false
      +favouriteCount: 1
      +score: 0
      +lastActive: DateTime @1689702319 {#4988
        date: 2023-07-18 19:45:19.0 +02:00
      }
      +ip: null
      +tags: null
      +mentions: [
        "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
        "@Suoko@feddit.it"
      ]
      +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4991 …}
      +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4993 …}
      +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4995 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4997 …}
      +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4999 …}
      +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5001 …}
      -id: 21972
      -bodyTs: "'anyth':7 'base':2 'china':1 'privat':8 'put':6 'sensit':10 'server':13 'wouldn':4"
      +ranking: 0
      +commentCount: 0
      +upVotes: 0
      +downVotes: 0
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +apId: "https://lemmy.one/comment/1241678"
      +editedAt: null
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689702319 {#4989
        date: 2023-07-18 19:45:19.0 +02:00
      }
    }
    +root: App\Entity\EntryComment {#4102}
    +body: "I’m not sure if thinking that all China is shit is either biased or racist"
    +lang: "en"
    +isAdult: false
    +favouriteCount: 1
    +score: 0
    +lastActive: DateTime @1689712271 {#5041
      date: 2023-07-18 22:31:11.0 +02:00
    }
    +ip: null
    +tags: null
    +mentions: [
      "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
      "@Suoko@feddit.it"
      "@PeachMan@lemmy.one"
    ]
    +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5044 …}
    +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5046 …}
    +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5048 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5050 …}
    +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5052 …}
    +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5054 …}
    -id: 22048
    -bodyTs: "'bias':14 'china':9 'either':13 'm':2 'racist':16 'shit':11 'sure':4 'think':6"
    +ranking: 0
    +commentCount: 0
    +upVotes: 0
    +downVotes: 0
    +visibility: "visible             "
    +apId: "https://feddit.it/comment/1040623"
    +editedAt: null
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689712271 {#5042
      date: 2023-07-18 22:31:11.0 +02:00
    }
  }
  +root: App\Entity\EntryComment {#4102}
  +body: """
    Did I say that “all China is shit”? Don’t put words in my mouth.\n
    \n
    I’d like to avoid hosting personal things on Chinese servers because the Chinese government is too powerful, and surveils everything. They don’t even act otherwise.\n
    \n
    I would also totally understand if people don’t want to host things on US servers for their own reasons.\n
    \n
    Sorry for not fitting into your weird narrative.
    """
  +lang: "en"
  +isAdult: false
  +favouriteCount: 0
  +score: 0
  +lastActive: DateTime @1689719793 {#5108
    date: 2023-07-19 00:36:33.0 +02:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +tags: null
  +mentions: [
    "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
    "@Suoko@feddit.it"
    "@PeachMan@lemmy.one"
  ]
  +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5111 …}
  +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5113 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5115 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5117 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5119 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5121 …}
  -id: 22128
  -bodyTs: "'act':41 'also':45 'avoid':20 'china':6 'chines':25,29 'd':17 'even':40 'everyth':36 'fit':66 'govern':30 'host':21,54 'like':18 'mouth':15 'narrat':70 'otherwis':42 'peopl':49 'person':22 'power':33 'put':11 'reason':62 'say':3 'server':26,58 'shit':8 'sorri':63 'surveil':35 'thing':23,55 'total':46 'understand':47 'us':57 'want':52 'weird':69 'word':12 'would':44"
  +ranking: 0
  +commentCount: 0
  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://lemmy.one/comment/1250217"
  +editedAt: null
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689719793 {#5109
    date: 2023-07-19 00:36:33.0 +02:00
  }
}
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
21 DENIED ROLE_USER 
null
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
22 DENIED moderate 
App\Entity\EntryComment {#5058
  +user: App\Entity\User {#4050 …}
  +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419
    +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#1970 …}
    +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265
      +icon: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#246 …}
      +name: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +title: "asklemmy"
      +description: """
        A loosely moderated place to ask open-ended questions\n
        \n
        **[Search asklemmy](https://lemmy.ml/search?q=&type=Posts&listingType=All&communityId=8&page=1&sort=TopAll) 🔍**\n
        \n
        If your post meets the following criteria, it’s welcome here!\n
        \n
        1. Open-ended\n
        2. Not offensive: at this point, we do not have the bandwidth to moderate overtly political discussions\n
        3. **Not regarding using or support for Lemmy**: [context](https://lemmy.ml/post/1223478), find help in the list of support alternatives below\n
        4. Not ad nauseam inducing: please make sure it is a question that would be new to most members\n
        5. [An actual topic of discussion](https://lemmy.ml/post/1239589)\n
        \n
        Support alternatives:\n
        \n
        - [!lemmy_support@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/lemmy_support)\n
        - [!nostupidlemmyquestions@lemmy.dbzer0.com](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/nostupidlemmyquestions)\n
        - [!selfhosted@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/selfhosted)\n
        \n
        ~Icon~ ~by~ ~@Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de~
        """
      +rules: null
      +subscriptionsCount: 0
      +entryCount: 580
      +entryCommentCount: 15558
      +postCount: 7
      +postCommentCount: 129
      +isAdult: false
      +customCss: null
      +lastActive: DateTime @1689748304 {#275
        date: 2023-07-19 08:31:44.0 +02:00
      }
      +markedForDeletionAt: null
      +tags: null
      +moderators: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#237 …}
      +ownershipRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#233 …}
      +moderatorRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#222 …}
      +entries: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#180 …}
      +posts: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#138 …}
      +subscriptions: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#200 …}
      +bans: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#117 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#103 …}
      +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#81 …}
      +logs: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#71 …}
      +awards: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1346 …}
      +categories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1823 …}
      -id: 9
      +apId: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +apProfileId: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apPublicUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apFollowersUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy/followers"
      +apInboxUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/inbox"
      +apDomain: "lemmy.ml"
      +apPreferredUsername: "asklemmy"
      +apDiscoverable: true
      +apManuallyApprovesFollowers: null
      +privateKey: null
      +publicKey: null
      +apFetchedAt: DateTime @1689747596 {#269
        date: 2023-07-19 08:19:56.0 +02:00
      }
      +apDeletedAt: null
      +apTimeoutAt: null
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1686889707 {#271
        date: 2023-06-16 06:28:27.0 +02:00
      }
    }
    +image: null
    +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#1915 …}
    +slug: "Best-options-for-Non-Google-cloud-storage-as-of-2022"
    +title: "Best options for Non-Google cloud storage as of 2022?"
    +url: null
    +body: """
      What are Lemmy’s feelings about the best cloud storage options these days, if you really want to break into the 1-2TB range? I’m not there yet, probably not even halfway there, but I like the peace of mind of potentially having the space if I need it. And I think subscribing to something in the Netflix price range is maybe something I’m ready for.\n
      \n
      My thoughts so far:\n
      \n
      [pcloud](https://www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime) - Intriguing because you can pay for a “lifetime” plan of 2TB of storage. But it’s $350, which is a lot, and I don’t know that I love the interface or usability, and I don’t know if I trust them.\n
      \n
      [iDrive](https://www.idrive.com/pricing) - Super affordable. 5tb for “just” $80/year. It might be the best deal, but nothing about their identity suggests to me that they are “good guys.” By which I mean, I’m not sure I trust them to make long-term promises for any specific plan.\n
      \n
      [Mega](https://mega.io/pro) - I like its very anti-google, very encrypted attitude. Born from the ashes of megaupload, they built encryption and zero knowledge into it. I LOVE that you can connect to it through the android app Solid Explorer and therefore don’t even need the mega app if you don’t want it. I hear bad things about it though? And it’s pretty expensive at $115 per year for 2TB.\n
      \n
      My personal thoughts/reasoning/caveats:\n
      \n
      **Homebrew stuff**: I don’t *quite* trust myself to use a homebrew setup like Nextcloud or Syncthing correctly. There’s too much in terms of labor, upkeep, catastrophic single points of failure where you could lose everything. I feel like I’m 70% of the way to being smart enough to do this.\n
      \n
      **Avoiding the Bad Guys and the Free Stuff**: I’ve tried the free version of just about everything, from Google to Onedrive to Dropbox to Mediafire to Mega. There’s even an android app that offers 1 free terrabyte?? But I don’t want something from the bad guys where I’m going to be integrated into their closed source death drap: Google, Amazon, Microsoft, Apple, and I don’t want a too-good-to-be-true free service where I’m the product.\n
      \n
      I also would prefer to avoid something from the upstarts who kinda-sorta imitate the bad guys: Dropbox, Mediafire, Box. Because I’m not sure how much I can trust any specific long term promise from them.\n
      \n
      **It sounds like you’re saying nothing is good enough! What exactly do you want!?** Something from good guys, not bad guys. Something like [Standardnotes](https://standardnotes.com/), but for file storage. They emphasize privacy, good governance principles and longevity of their service. Or [Linode](https://www.linode.com/support-experience/), with their independence, sense of mission, love of Linux & free software, all of which tells me they are good guys.\n
      \n
      Probably the correct answer is (1) here’s this magical perfect source I never thought of, or (2) I’m thinking this much about it, I should probably do Nextcloud or syncthing given all the constraints that I’m putting out there.\n
      \n
      Anyway, that’s my thoughts on cloud storage. What are yours?
      """
    +type: "article"
    +lang: "en"
    +isOc: false
    +hasEmbed: false
    +commentCount: 25
    +favouriteCount: 41
    +score: 0
    +isAdult: false
    +sticky: false
    +lastActive: DateTime @1689719793 {#2414
      date: 2023-07-19 00:36:33.0 +02:00
    }
    +ip: null
    +adaAmount: 0
    +tags: null
    +mentions: null
    +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1884 …}
    +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1973 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1959 …}
    +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1927 …}
    +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2442 …}
    +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2440 …}
    +children: []
    -id: 1294
    -titleTs: "'2022':11 'best':1 'cloud':7 'googl':6 'non':5 'non-googl':4 'option':2 'storag':8"
    -bodyTs: "'-2':23 '/),':451 '/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':77 '/pricing)':123 '/pro)':173 '/support-experience/),':471 '1':22,337,497 '115':240 '2':509 '2tb':88,244 '350':94 '5tb':126 '70':290 '80/year':129 'afford':125 'also':387 'amazon':364 'android':208,333 'answer':495 'anti':179 'anti-googl':178 'anyway':534 'app':209,220,334 'appl':366 'ash':187 'attitud':183 'avoid':301,391 'bad':229,303,348,402,444 'best':8,134 'born':184 'box':406 'break':19 'built':191 'catastroph':275 'close':359 'cloud':9,540 'connect':203 'constraint':527 'correct':265,494 'could':282 'day':13 'deal':135 'death':361 'drap':362 'dropbox':324,404 'emphas':457 'encrypt':182,192 'enough':297,433 'even':33,216,331 'everyth':284,318 'exact':435 'expens':238 'explor':211 'failur':279 'far':73 'feel':5,286 'file':454 'free':307,313,338,379,481 'given':524 'go':353 'good':147,375,432,441,459,490 'googl':180,320,363 'govern':460 'guy':148,304,349,403,442,445,491 'halfway':34 'hear':228 'homebrew':248,259 'ident':140 'idriv':120 'imit':400 'independ':474 'integr':356 'interfac':108 'intrigu':78 'kinda':398 'kinda-sorta':397 'know':103,115 'knowledg':195 'labor':273 'lemmi':3 'lifetim':85 'like':38,175,261,287,426,447 'linod':468 'linux':480 'long':163,419 'long-term':162 'longev':463 'lose':283 'lot':98 'love':106,199,478 'm':27,67,154,289,352,383,409,511,530 'magic':501 'make':161 'mayb':64 'mean':152 'mediafir':326,405 'mega':170,219,328 'mega.io':172 'mega.io/pro)':171 'megaupload':189 'microsoft':365 'might':131 'mind':42 'mission':477 'much':269,413,514 'need':50,217 'netflix':60 'never':505 'nextcloud':262,521 'noth':137,430 'offer':336 'onedr':322 'option':11 'pay':82 'pcloud':74 'peac':40 'per':241 'perfect':502 'person':246 'plan':86,169 'point':277 'potenti':44 'prefer':389 'pretti':237 'price':61 'principl':461 'privaci':458 'probabl':31,492,519 'product':385 'promis':165,421 'put':531 'quit':253 'rang':25,62 're':428 'readi':68 'realli':16 'say':429 'sens':475 'servic':380,466 'setup':260 'singl':276 'smart':296 'softwar':482 'solid':210 'someth':57,65,345,392,439,446 'sorta':399 'sound':425 'sourc':360,503 'space':47 'specif':168,418 'standardnot':448 'standardnotes.com':450 'standardnotes.com/),':449 'storag':10,90,455,541 'stuff':249,308 'subscrib':55 'suggest':141 'super':124 'sure':156,411 'syncth':264,523 'tb':24 'tell':486 'term':164,271,420 'terrabyt':339 'therefor':213 'thing':230 'think':54,512 'though':233 'thought':71,506,538 'thoughts/reasoning/caveats':247 'too-good-to-be-tru':373 'tri':311 'true':378 'trust':118,158,254,416 'upkeep':274 'upstart':395 'usabl':110 'use':257 've':310 'version':314 'want':17,225,344,371,438 'way':293 'would':388 'www.idrive.com':122 'www.idrive.com/pricing)':121 'www.linode.com':470 'www.linode.com/support-experience/),':469 'www.pcloud.com':76 'www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':75 'year':242 'yet':30 'zero':194"
    +cross: false
    +upVotes: 0
    +downVotes: 0
    +ranking: 1642260128
    +visibility: "visible             "
    +apId: "https://lemmy.ml/post/149005"
    +editedAt: null
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1642173728 {#1793
      date: 2022-01-14 16:22:08.0 +01:00
    }
  }
  +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
  +image: null
  +parent: App\Entity\EntryComment {#4990
    +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#4913 …}
    +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419}
    +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
    +image: null
    +parent: App\Entity\EntryComment {#4102
      +user: App\Entity\User {#4050 …}
      +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419}
      +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
      +image: null
      +parent: null
      +root: null
      +body: "Terabox has 1tb free, 2tb @54/y"
      +lang: "en"
      +isAdult: false
      +favouriteCount: 1
      +score: 0
      +lastActive: DateTime @1689719794 {#4111
        date: 2023-07-19 00:36:34.0 +02:00
      }
      +ip: null
      +tags: null
      +mentions: [
        "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
      ]
      +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4100 …}
      +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4098 …}
      +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4096 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4094 …}
      +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4062 …}
      +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4066 …}
      -id: 20403
      -bodyTs: "'1tb':3 '2tb':5 '54/y':6 'free':4 'terabox':1"
      +ranking: 0
      +commentCount: 0
      +upVotes: 0
      +downVotes: 0
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +apId: "https://feddit.it/comment/992469"
      +editedAt: null
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689571364 {#4047
        date: 2023-07-17 07:22:44.0 +02:00
      }
    }
    +root: App\Entity\EntryComment {#4102}
    +body: "China based. I wouldn’t put anything private or sensitive on their servers…"
    +lang: "en"
    +isAdult: false
    +favouriteCount: 1
    +score: 0
    +lastActive: DateTime @1689702319 {#4988
      date: 2023-07-18 19:45:19.0 +02:00
    }
    +ip: null
    +tags: null
    +mentions: [
      "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
      "@Suoko@feddit.it"
    ]
    +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4991 …}
    +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4993 …}
    +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4995 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4997 …}
    +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4999 …}
    +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5001 …}
    -id: 21972
    -bodyTs: "'anyth':7 'base':2 'china':1 'privat':8 'put':6 'sensit':10 'server':13 'wouldn':4"
    +ranking: 0
    +commentCount: 0
    +upVotes: 0
    +downVotes: 0
    +visibility: "visible             "
    +apId: "https://lemmy.one/comment/1241678"
    +editedAt: null
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689702319 {#4989
      date: 2023-07-18 19:45:19.0 +02:00
    }
  }
  +root: App\Entity\EntryComment {#4102}
  +body: "Some one could say: I wouldn’t put anything on an US server since 90% porn comes from US and they like to play with deepfake shitty vids"
  +lang: "en"
  +isAdult: false
  +favouriteCount: 0
  +score: 0
  +lastActive: DateTime @1689712378 {#5056
    date: 2023-07-18 22:32:58.0 +02:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +tags: null
  +mentions: [
    "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
    "@Suoko@feddit.it"
    "@PeachMan@lemmy.one"
  ]
  +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5059 …}
  +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5061 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5063 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5065 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5067 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5069 …}
  -id: 22050
  -bodyTs: "'90':15 'anyth':9 'come':17 'could':3 'deepfak':26 'like':22 'one':2 'play':24 'porn':16 'put':8 'say':4 'server':13 'shitti':27 'sinc':14 'us':12,19 'vid':28 'wouldn':6"
  +ranking: 0
  +commentCount: 0
  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://feddit.it/comment/1040657"
  +editedAt: null
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689712378 {#5057
    date: 2023-07-18 22:32:58.0 +02:00
  }
}
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
23 DENIED edit 
App\Entity\EntryComment {#5058
  +user: App\Entity\User {#4050 …}
  +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419
    +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#1970 …}
    +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265
      +icon: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#246 …}
      +name: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +title: "asklemmy"
      +description: """
        A loosely moderated place to ask open-ended questions\n
        \n
        **[Search asklemmy](https://lemmy.ml/search?q=&type=Posts&listingType=All&communityId=8&page=1&sort=TopAll) 🔍**\n
        \n
        If your post meets the following criteria, it’s welcome here!\n
        \n
        1. Open-ended\n
        2. Not offensive: at this point, we do not have the bandwidth to moderate overtly political discussions\n
        3. **Not regarding using or support for Lemmy**: [context](https://lemmy.ml/post/1223478), find help in the list of support alternatives below\n
        4. Not ad nauseam inducing: please make sure it is a question that would be new to most members\n
        5. [An actual topic of discussion](https://lemmy.ml/post/1239589)\n
        \n
        Support alternatives:\n
        \n
        - [!lemmy_support@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/lemmy_support)\n
        - [!nostupidlemmyquestions@lemmy.dbzer0.com](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/nostupidlemmyquestions)\n
        - [!selfhosted@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/selfhosted)\n
        \n
        ~Icon~ ~by~ ~@Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de~
        """
      +rules: null
      +subscriptionsCount: 0
      +entryCount: 580
      +entryCommentCount: 15558
      +postCount: 7
      +postCommentCount: 129
      +isAdult: false
      +customCss: null
      +lastActive: DateTime @1689748304 {#275
        date: 2023-07-19 08:31:44.0 +02:00
      }
      +markedForDeletionAt: null
      +tags: null
      +moderators: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#237 …}
      +ownershipRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#233 …}
      +moderatorRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#222 …}
      +entries: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#180 …}
      +posts: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#138 …}
      +subscriptions: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#200 …}
      +bans: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#117 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#103 …}
      +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#81 …}
      +logs: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#71 …}
      +awards: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1346 …}
      +categories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1823 …}
      -id: 9
      +apId: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +apProfileId: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apPublicUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apFollowersUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy/followers"
      +apInboxUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/inbox"
      +apDomain: "lemmy.ml"
      +apPreferredUsername: "asklemmy"
      +apDiscoverable: true
      +apManuallyApprovesFollowers: null
      +privateKey: null
      +publicKey: null
      +apFetchedAt: DateTime @1689747596 {#269
        date: 2023-07-19 08:19:56.0 +02:00
      }
      +apDeletedAt: null
      +apTimeoutAt: null
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1686889707 {#271
        date: 2023-06-16 06:28:27.0 +02:00
      }
    }
    +image: null
    +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#1915 …}
    +slug: "Best-options-for-Non-Google-cloud-storage-as-of-2022"
    +title: "Best options for Non-Google cloud storage as of 2022?"
    +url: null
    +body: """
      What are Lemmy’s feelings about the best cloud storage options these days, if you really want to break into the 1-2TB range? I’m not there yet, probably not even halfway there, but I like the peace of mind of potentially having the space if I need it. And I think subscribing to something in the Netflix price range is maybe something I’m ready for.\n
      \n
      My thoughts so far:\n
      \n
      [pcloud](https://www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime) - Intriguing because you can pay for a “lifetime” plan of 2TB of storage. But it’s $350, which is a lot, and I don’t know that I love the interface or usability, and I don’t know if I trust them.\n
      \n
      [iDrive](https://www.idrive.com/pricing) - Super affordable. 5tb for “just” $80/year. It might be the best deal, but nothing about their identity suggests to me that they are “good guys.” By which I mean, I’m not sure I trust them to make long-term promises for any specific plan.\n
      \n
      [Mega](https://mega.io/pro) - I like its very anti-google, very encrypted attitude. Born from the ashes of megaupload, they built encryption and zero knowledge into it. I LOVE that you can connect to it through the android app Solid Explorer and therefore don’t even need the mega app if you don’t want it. I hear bad things about it though? And it’s pretty expensive at $115 per year for 2TB.\n
      \n
      My personal thoughts/reasoning/caveats:\n
      \n
      **Homebrew stuff**: I don’t *quite* trust myself to use a homebrew setup like Nextcloud or Syncthing correctly. There’s too much in terms of labor, upkeep, catastrophic single points of failure where you could lose everything. I feel like I’m 70% of the way to being smart enough to do this.\n
      \n
      **Avoiding the Bad Guys and the Free Stuff**: I’ve tried the free version of just about everything, from Google to Onedrive to Dropbox to Mediafire to Mega. There’s even an android app that offers 1 free terrabyte?? But I don’t want something from the bad guys where I’m going to be integrated into their closed source death drap: Google, Amazon, Microsoft, Apple, and I don’t want a too-good-to-be-true free service where I’m the product.\n
      \n
      I also would prefer to avoid something from the upstarts who kinda-sorta imitate the bad guys: Dropbox, Mediafire, Box. Because I’m not sure how much I can trust any specific long term promise from them.\n
      \n
      **It sounds like you’re saying nothing is good enough! What exactly do you want!?** Something from good guys, not bad guys. Something like [Standardnotes](https://standardnotes.com/), but for file storage. They emphasize privacy, good governance principles and longevity of their service. Or [Linode](https://www.linode.com/support-experience/), with their independence, sense of mission, love of Linux & free software, all of which tells me they are good guys.\n
      \n
      Probably the correct answer is (1) here’s this magical perfect source I never thought of, or (2) I’m thinking this much about it, I should probably do Nextcloud or syncthing given all the constraints that I’m putting out there.\n
      \n
      Anyway, that’s my thoughts on cloud storage. What are yours?
      """
    +type: "article"
    +lang: "en"
    +isOc: false
    +hasEmbed: false
    +commentCount: 25
    +favouriteCount: 41
    +score: 0
    +isAdult: false
    +sticky: false
    +lastActive: DateTime @1689719793 {#2414
      date: 2023-07-19 00:36:33.0 +02:00
    }
    +ip: null
    +adaAmount: 0
    +tags: null
    +mentions: null
    +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1884 …}
    +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1973 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1959 …}
    +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1927 …}
    +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2442 …}
    +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2440 …}
    +children: []
    -id: 1294
    -titleTs: "'2022':11 'best':1 'cloud':7 'googl':6 'non':5 'non-googl':4 'option':2 'storag':8"
    -bodyTs: "'-2':23 '/),':451 '/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':77 '/pricing)':123 '/pro)':173 '/support-experience/),':471 '1':22,337,497 '115':240 '2':509 '2tb':88,244 '350':94 '5tb':126 '70':290 '80/year':129 'afford':125 'also':387 'amazon':364 'android':208,333 'answer':495 'anti':179 'anti-googl':178 'anyway':534 'app':209,220,334 'appl':366 'ash':187 'attitud':183 'avoid':301,391 'bad':229,303,348,402,444 'best':8,134 'born':184 'box':406 'break':19 'built':191 'catastroph':275 'close':359 'cloud':9,540 'connect':203 'constraint':527 'correct':265,494 'could':282 'day':13 'deal':135 'death':361 'drap':362 'dropbox':324,404 'emphas':457 'encrypt':182,192 'enough':297,433 'even':33,216,331 'everyth':284,318 'exact':435 'expens':238 'explor':211 'failur':279 'far':73 'feel':5,286 'file':454 'free':307,313,338,379,481 'given':524 'go':353 'good':147,375,432,441,459,490 'googl':180,320,363 'govern':460 'guy':148,304,349,403,442,445,491 'halfway':34 'hear':228 'homebrew':248,259 'ident':140 'idriv':120 'imit':400 'independ':474 'integr':356 'interfac':108 'intrigu':78 'kinda':398 'kinda-sorta':397 'know':103,115 'knowledg':195 'labor':273 'lemmi':3 'lifetim':85 'like':38,175,261,287,426,447 'linod':468 'linux':480 'long':163,419 'long-term':162 'longev':463 'lose':283 'lot':98 'love':106,199,478 'm':27,67,154,289,352,383,409,511,530 'magic':501 'make':161 'mayb':64 'mean':152 'mediafir':326,405 'mega':170,219,328 'mega.io':172 'mega.io/pro)':171 'megaupload':189 'microsoft':365 'might':131 'mind':42 'mission':477 'much':269,413,514 'need':50,217 'netflix':60 'never':505 'nextcloud':262,521 'noth':137,430 'offer':336 'onedr':322 'option':11 'pay':82 'pcloud':74 'peac':40 'per':241 'perfect':502 'person':246 'plan':86,169 'point':277 'potenti':44 'prefer':389 'pretti':237 'price':61 'principl':461 'privaci':458 'probabl':31,492,519 'product':385 'promis':165,421 'put':531 'quit':253 'rang':25,62 're':428 'readi':68 'realli':16 'say':429 'sens':475 'servic':380,466 'setup':260 'singl':276 'smart':296 'softwar':482 'solid':210 'someth':57,65,345,392,439,446 'sorta':399 'sound':425 'sourc':360,503 'space':47 'specif':168,418 'standardnot':448 'standardnotes.com':450 'standardnotes.com/),':449 'storag':10,90,455,541 'stuff':249,308 'subscrib':55 'suggest':141 'super':124 'sure':156,411 'syncth':264,523 'tb':24 'tell':486 'term':164,271,420 'terrabyt':339 'therefor':213 'thing':230 'think':54,512 'though':233 'thought':71,506,538 'thoughts/reasoning/caveats':247 'too-good-to-be-tru':373 'tri':311 'true':378 'trust':118,158,254,416 'upkeep':274 'upstart':395 'usabl':110 'use':257 've':310 'version':314 'want':17,225,344,371,438 'way':293 'would':388 'www.idrive.com':122 'www.idrive.com/pricing)':121 'www.linode.com':470 'www.linode.com/support-experience/),':469 'www.pcloud.com':76 'www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':75 'year':242 'yet':30 'zero':194"
    +cross: false
    +upVotes: 0
    +downVotes: 0
    +ranking: 1642260128
    +visibility: "visible             "
    +apId: "https://lemmy.ml/post/149005"
    +editedAt: null
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1642173728 {#1793
      date: 2022-01-14 16:22:08.0 +01:00
    }
  }
  +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
  +image: null
  +parent: App\Entity\EntryComment {#4990
    +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#4913 …}
    +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419}
    +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
    +image: null
    +parent: App\Entity\EntryComment {#4102
      +user: App\Entity\User {#4050 …}
      +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419}
      +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
      +image: null
      +parent: null
      +root: null
      +body: "Terabox has 1tb free, 2tb @54/y"
      +lang: "en"
      +isAdult: false
      +favouriteCount: 1
      +score: 0
      +lastActive: DateTime @1689719794 {#4111
        date: 2023-07-19 00:36:34.0 +02:00
      }
      +ip: null
      +tags: null
      +mentions: [
        "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
      ]
      +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4100 …}
      +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4098 …}
      +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4096 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4094 …}
      +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4062 …}
      +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4066 …}
      -id: 20403
      -bodyTs: "'1tb':3 '2tb':5 '54/y':6 'free':4 'terabox':1"
      +ranking: 0
      +commentCount: 0
      +upVotes: 0
      +downVotes: 0
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +apId: "https://feddit.it/comment/992469"
      +editedAt: null
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689571364 {#4047
        date: 2023-07-17 07:22:44.0 +02:00
      }
    }
    +root: App\Entity\EntryComment {#4102}
    +body: "China based. I wouldn’t put anything private or sensitive on their servers…"
    +lang: "en"
    +isAdult: false
    +favouriteCount: 1
    +score: 0
    +lastActive: DateTime @1689702319 {#4988
      date: 2023-07-18 19:45:19.0 +02:00
    }
    +ip: null
    +tags: null
    +mentions: [
      "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
      "@Suoko@feddit.it"
    ]
    +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4991 …}
    +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4993 …}
    +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4995 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4997 …}
    +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4999 …}
    +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5001 …}
    -id: 21972
    -bodyTs: "'anyth':7 'base':2 'china':1 'privat':8 'put':6 'sensit':10 'server':13 'wouldn':4"
    +ranking: 0
    +commentCount: 0
    +upVotes: 0
    +downVotes: 0
    +visibility: "visible             "
    +apId: "https://lemmy.one/comment/1241678"
    +editedAt: null
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689702319 {#4989
      date: 2023-07-18 19:45:19.0 +02:00
    }
  }
  +root: App\Entity\EntryComment {#4102}
  +body: "Some one could say: I wouldn’t put anything on an US server since 90% porn comes from US and they like to play with deepfake shitty vids"
  +lang: "en"
  +isAdult: false
  +favouriteCount: 0
  +score: 0
  +lastActive: DateTime @1689712378 {#5056
    date: 2023-07-18 22:32:58.0 +02:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +tags: null
  +mentions: [
    "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
    "@Suoko@feddit.it"
    "@PeachMan@lemmy.one"
  ]
  +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5059 …}
  +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5061 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5063 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5065 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5067 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5069 …}
  -id: 22050
  -bodyTs: "'90':15 'anyth':9 'come':17 'could':3 'deepfak':26 'like':22 'one':2 'play':24 'porn':16 'put':8 'say':4 'server':13 'shitti':27 'sinc':14 'us':12,19 'vid':28 'wouldn':6"
  +ranking: 0
  +commentCount: 0
  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://feddit.it/comment/1040657"
  +editedAt: null
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689712378 {#5057
    date: 2023-07-18 22:32:58.0 +02:00
  }
}
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
24 DENIED moderate 
App\Entity\EntryComment {#5058
  +user: App\Entity\User {#4050 …}
  +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419
    +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#1970 …}
    +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265
      +icon: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#246 …}
      +name: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +title: "asklemmy"
      +description: """
        A loosely moderated place to ask open-ended questions\n
        \n
        **[Search asklemmy](https://lemmy.ml/search?q=&type=Posts&listingType=All&communityId=8&page=1&sort=TopAll) 🔍**\n
        \n
        If your post meets the following criteria, it’s welcome here!\n
        \n
        1. Open-ended\n
        2. Not offensive: at this point, we do not have the bandwidth to moderate overtly political discussions\n
        3. **Not regarding using or support for Lemmy**: [context](https://lemmy.ml/post/1223478), find help in the list of support alternatives below\n
        4. Not ad nauseam inducing: please make sure it is a question that would be new to most members\n
        5. [An actual topic of discussion](https://lemmy.ml/post/1239589)\n
        \n
        Support alternatives:\n
        \n
        - [!lemmy_support@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/lemmy_support)\n
        - [!nostupidlemmyquestions@lemmy.dbzer0.com](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/nostupidlemmyquestions)\n
        - [!selfhosted@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/selfhosted)\n
        \n
        ~Icon~ ~by~ ~@Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de~
        """
      +rules: null
      +subscriptionsCount: 0
      +entryCount: 580
      +entryCommentCount: 15558
      +postCount: 7
      +postCommentCount: 129
      +isAdult: false
      +customCss: null
      +lastActive: DateTime @1689748304 {#275
        date: 2023-07-19 08:31:44.0 +02:00
      }
      +markedForDeletionAt: null
      +tags: null
      +moderators: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#237 …}
      +ownershipRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#233 …}
      +moderatorRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#222 …}
      +entries: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#180 …}
      +posts: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#138 …}
      +subscriptions: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#200 …}
      +bans: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#117 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#103 …}
      +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#81 …}
      +logs: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#71 …}
      +awards: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1346 …}
      +categories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1823 …}
      -id: 9
      +apId: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +apProfileId: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apPublicUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apFollowersUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy/followers"
      +apInboxUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/inbox"
      +apDomain: "lemmy.ml"
      +apPreferredUsername: "asklemmy"
      +apDiscoverable: true
      +apManuallyApprovesFollowers: null
      +privateKey: null
      +publicKey: null
      +apFetchedAt: DateTime @1689747596 {#269
        date: 2023-07-19 08:19:56.0 +02:00
      }
      +apDeletedAt: null
      +apTimeoutAt: null
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1686889707 {#271
        date: 2023-06-16 06:28:27.0 +02:00
      }
    }
    +image: null
    +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#1915 …}
    +slug: "Best-options-for-Non-Google-cloud-storage-as-of-2022"
    +title: "Best options for Non-Google cloud storage as of 2022?"
    +url: null
    +body: """
      What are Lemmy’s feelings about the best cloud storage options these days, if you really want to break into the 1-2TB range? I’m not there yet, probably not even halfway there, but I like the peace of mind of potentially having the space if I need it. And I think subscribing to something in the Netflix price range is maybe something I’m ready for.\n
      \n
      My thoughts so far:\n
      \n
      [pcloud](https://www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime) - Intriguing because you can pay for a “lifetime” plan of 2TB of storage. But it’s $350, which is a lot, and I don’t know that I love the interface or usability, and I don’t know if I trust them.\n
      \n
      [iDrive](https://www.idrive.com/pricing) - Super affordable. 5tb for “just” $80/year. It might be the best deal, but nothing about their identity suggests to me that they are “good guys.” By which I mean, I’m not sure I trust them to make long-term promises for any specific plan.\n
      \n
      [Mega](https://mega.io/pro) - I like its very anti-google, very encrypted attitude. Born from the ashes of megaupload, they built encryption and zero knowledge into it. I LOVE that you can connect to it through the android app Solid Explorer and therefore don’t even need the mega app if you don’t want it. I hear bad things about it though? And it’s pretty expensive at $115 per year for 2TB.\n
      \n
      My personal thoughts/reasoning/caveats:\n
      \n
      **Homebrew stuff**: I don’t *quite* trust myself to use a homebrew setup like Nextcloud or Syncthing correctly. There’s too much in terms of labor, upkeep, catastrophic single points of failure where you could lose everything. I feel like I’m 70% of the way to being smart enough to do this.\n
      \n
      **Avoiding the Bad Guys and the Free Stuff**: I’ve tried the free version of just about everything, from Google to Onedrive to Dropbox to Mediafire to Mega. There’s even an android app that offers 1 free terrabyte?? But I don’t want something from the bad guys where I’m going to be integrated into their closed source death drap: Google, Amazon, Microsoft, Apple, and I don’t want a too-good-to-be-true free service where I’m the product.\n
      \n
      I also would prefer to avoid something from the upstarts who kinda-sorta imitate the bad guys: Dropbox, Mediafire, Box. Because I’m not sure how much I can trust any specific long term promise from them.\n
      \n
      **It sounds like you’re saying nothing is good enough! What exactly do you want!?** Something from good guys, not bad guys. Something like [Standardnotes](https://standardnotes.com/), but for file storage. They emphasize privacy, good governance principles and longevity of their service. Or [Linode](https://www.linode.com/support-experience/), with their independence, sense of mission, love of Linux & free software, all of which tells me they are good guys.\n
      \n
      Probably the correct answer is (1) here’s this magical perfect source I never thought of, or (2) I’m thinking this much about it, I should probably do Nextcloud or syncthing given all the constraints that I’m putting out there.\n
      \n
      Anyway, that’s my thoughts on cloud storage. What are yours?
      """
    +type: "article"
    +lang: "en"
    +isOc: false
    +hasEmbed: false
    +commentCount: 25
    +favouriteCount: 41
    +score: 0
    +isAdult: false
    +sticky: false
    +lastActive: DateTime @1689719793 {#2414
      date: 2023-07-19 00:36:33.0 +02:00
    }
    +ip: null
    +adaAmount: 0
    +tags: null
    +mentions: null
    +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1884 …}
    +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1973 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1959 …}
    +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1927 …}
    +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2442 …}
    +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2440 …}
    +children: []
    -id: 1294
    -titleTs: "'2022':11 'best':1 'cloud':7 'googl':6 'non':5 'non-googl':4 'option':2 'storag':8"
    -bodyTs: "'-2':23 '/),':451 '/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':77 '/pricing)':123 '/pro)':173 '/support-experience/),':471 '1':22,337,497 '115':240 '2':509 '2tb':88,244 '350':94 '5tb':126 '70':290 '80/year':129 'afford':125 'also':387 'amazon':364 'android':208,333 'answer':495 'anti':179 'anti-googl':178 'anyway':534 'app':209,220,334 'appl':366 'ash':187 'attitud':183 'avoid':301,391 'bad':229,303,348,402,444 'best':8,134 'born':184 'box':406 'break':19 'built':191 'catastroph':275 'close':359 'cloud':9,540 'connect':203 'constraint':527 'correct':265,494 'could':282 'day':13 'deal':135 'death':361 'drap':362 'dropbox':324,404 'emphas':457 'encrypt':182,192 'enough':297,433 'even':33,216,331 'everyth':284,318 'exact':435 'expens':238 'explor':211 'failur':279 'far':73 'feel':5,286 'file':454 'free':307,313,338,379,481 'given':524 'go':353 'good':147,375,432,441,459,490 'googl':180,320,363 'govern':460 'guy':148,304,349,403,442,445,491 'halfway':34 'hear':228 'homebrew':248,259 'ident':140 'idriv':120 'imit':400 'independ':474 'integr':356 'interfac':108 'intrigu':78 'kinda':398 'kinda-sorta':397 'know':103,115 'knowledg':195 'labor':273 'lemmi':3 'lifetim':85 'like':38,175,261,287,426,447 'linod':468 'linux':480 'long':163,419 'long-term':162 'longev':463 'lose':283 'lot':98 'love':106,199,478 'm':27,67,154,289,352,383,409,511,530 'magic':501 'make':161 'mayb':64 'mean':152 'mediafir':326,405 'mega':170,219,328 'mega.io':172 'mega.io/pro)':171 'megaupload':189 'microsoft':365 'might':131 'mind':42 'mission':477 'much':269,413,514 'need':50,217 'netflix':60 'never':505 'nextcloud':262,521 'noth':137,430 'offer':336 'onedr':322 'option':11 'pay':82 'pcloud':74 'peac':40 'per':241 'perfect':502 'person':246 'plan':86,169 'point':277 'potenti':44 'prefer':389 'pretti':237 'price':61 'principl':461 'privaci':458 'probabl':31,492,519 'product':385 'promis':165,421 'put':531 'quit':253 'rang':25,62 're':428 'readi':68 'realli':16 'say':429 'sens':475 'servic':380,466 'setup':260 'singl':276 'smart':296 'softwar':482 'solid':210 'someth':57,65,345,392,439,446 'sorta':399 'sound':425 'sourc':360,503 'space':47 'specif':168,418 'standardnot':448 'standardnotes.com':450 'standardnotes.com/),':449 'storag':10,90,455,541 'stuff':249,308 'subscrib':55 'suggest':141 'super':124 'sure':156,411 'syncth':264,523 'tb':24 'tell':486 'term':164,271,420 'terrabyt':339 'therefor':213 'thing':230 'think':54,512 'though':233 'thought':71,506,538 'thoughts/reasoning/caveats':247 'too-good-to-be-tru':373 'tri':311 'true':378 'trust':118,158,254,416 'upkeep':274 'upstart':395 'usabl':110 'use':257 've':310 'version':314 'want':17,225,344,371,438 'way':293 'would':388 'www.idrive.com':122 'www.idrive.com/pricing)':121 'www.linode.com':470 'www.linode.com/support-experience/),':469 'www.pcloud.com':76 'www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':75 'year':242 'yet':30 'zero':194"
    +cross: false
    +upVotes: 0
    +downVotes: 0
    +ranking: 1642260128
    +visibility: "visible             "
    +apId: "https://lemmy.ml/post/149005"
    +editedAt: null
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1642173728 {#1793
      date: 2022-01-14 16:22:08.0 +01:00
    }
  }
  +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
  +image: null
  +parent: App\Entity\EntryComment {#4990
    +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#4913 …}
    +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419}
    +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
    +image: null
    +parent: App\Entity\EntryComment {#4102
      +user: App\Entity\User {#4050 …}
      +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419}
      +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
      +image: null
      +parent: null
      +root: null
      +body: "Terabox has 1tb free, 2tb @54/y"
      +lang: "en"
      +isAdult: false
      +favouriteCount: 1
      +score: 0
      +lastActive: DateTime @1689719794 {#4111
        date: 2023-07-19 00:36:34.0 +02:00
      }
      +ip: null
      +tags: null
      +mentions: [
        "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
      ]
      +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4100 …}
      +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4098 …}
      +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4096 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4094 …}
      +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4062 …}
      +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4066 …}
      -id: 20403
      -bodyTs: "'1tb':3 '2tb':5 '54/y':6 'free':4 'terabox':1"
      +ranking: 0
      +commentCount: 0
      +upVotes: 0
      +downVotes: 0
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +apId: "https://feddit.it/comment/992469"
      +editedAt: null
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689571364 {#4047
        date: 2023-07-17 07:22:44.0 +02:00
      }
    }
    +root: App\Entity\EntryComment {#4102}
    +body: "China based. I wouldn’t put anything private or sensitive on their servers…"
    +lang: "en"
    +isAdult: false
    +favouriteCount: 1
    +score: 0
    +lastActive: DateTime @1689702319 {#4988
      date: 2023-07-18 19:45:19.0 +02:00
    }
    +ip: null
    +tags: null
    +mentions: [
      "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
      "@Suoko@feddit.it"
    ]
    +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4991 …}
    +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4993 …}
    +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4995 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4997 …}
    +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4999 …}
    +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5001 …}
    -id: 21972
    -bodyTs: "'anyth':7 'base':2 'china':1 'privat':8 'put':6 'sensit':10 'server':13 'wouldn':4"
    +ranking: 0
    +commentCount: 0
    +upVotes: 0
    +downVotes: 0
    +visibility: "visible             "
    +apId: "https://lemmy.one/comment/1241678"
    +editedAt: null
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689702319 {#4989
      date: 2023-07-18 19:45:19.0 +02:00
    }
  }
  +root: App\Entity\EntryComment {#4102}
  +body: "Some one could say: I wouldn’t put anything on an US server since 90% porn comes from US and they like to play with deepfake shitty vids"
  +lang: "en"
  +isAdult: false
  +favouriteCount: 0
  +score: 0
  +lastActive: DateTime @1689712378 {#5056
    date: 2023-07-18 22:32:58.0 +02:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +tags: null
  +mentions: [
    "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
    "@Suoko@feddit.it"
    "@PeachMan@lemmy.one"
  ]
  +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5059 …}
  +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5061 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5063 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5065 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5067 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5069 …}
  -id: 22050
  -bodyTs: "'90':15 'anyth':9 'come':17 'could':3 'deepfak':26 'like':22 'one':2 'play':24 'porn':16 'put':8 'say':4 'server':13 'shitti':27 'sinc':14 'us':12,19 'vid':28 'wouldn':6"
  +ranking: 0
  +commentCount: 0
  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://feddit.it/comment/1040657"
  +editedAt: null
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689712378 {#5057
    date: 2023-07-18 22:32:58.0 +02:00
  }
}
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
25 DENIED ROLE_USER 
null
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
26 DENIED moderate 
App\Entity\EntryComment {#4137
  +user: App\Entity\User {#4121 …}
  +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419
    +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#1970 …}
    +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265
      +icon: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#246 …}
      +name: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +title: "asklemmy"
      +description: """
        A loosely moderated place to ask open-ended questions\n
        \n
        **[Search asklemmy](https://lemmy.ml/search?q=&type=Posts&listingType=All&communityId=8&page=1&sort=TopAll) 🔍**\n
        \n
        If your post meets the following criteria, it’s welcome here!\n
        \n
        1. Open-ended\n
        2. Not offensive: at this point, we do not have the bandwidth to moderate overtly political discussions\n
        3. **Not regarding using or support for Lemmy**: [context](https://lemmy.ml/post/1223478), find help in the list of support alternatives below\n
        4. Not ad nauseam inducing: please make sure it is a question that would be new to most members\n
        5. [An actual topic of discussion](https://lemmy.ml/post/1239589)\n
        \n
        Support alternatives:\n
        \n
        - [!lemmy_support@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/lemmy_support)\n
        - [!nostupidlemmyquestions@lemmy.dbzer0.com](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/nostupidlemmyquestions)\n
        - [!selfhosted@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/selfhosted)\n
        \n
        ~Icon~ ~by~ ~@Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de~
        """
      +rules: null
      +subscriptionsCount: 0
      +entryCount: 580
      +entryCommentCount: 15558
      +postCount: 7
      +postCommentCount: 129
      +isAdult: false
      +customCss: null
      +lastActive: DateTime @1689748304 {#275
        date: 2023-07-19 08:31:44.0 +02:00
      }
      +markedForDeletionAt: null
      +tags: null
      +moderators: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#237 …}
      +ownershipRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#233 …}
      +moderatorRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#222 …}
      +entries: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#180 …}
      +posts: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#138 …}
      +subscriptions: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#200 …}
      +bans: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#117 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#103 …}
      +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#81 …}
      +logs: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#71 …}
      +awards: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1346 …}
      +categories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1823 …}
      -id: 9
      +apId: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +apProfileId: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apPublicUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apFollowersUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy/followers"
      +apInboxUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/inbox"
      +apDomain: "lemmy.ml"
      +apPreferredUsername: "asklemmy"
      +apDiscoverable: true
      +apManuallyApprovesFollowers: null
      +privateKey: null
      +publicKey: null
      +apFetchedAt: DateTime @1689747596 {#269
        date: 2023-07-19 08:19:56.0 +02:00
      }
      +apDeletedAt: null
      +apTimeoutAt: null
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1686889707 {#271
        date: 2023-06-16 06:28:27.0 +02:00
      }
    }
    +image: null
    +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#1915 …}
    +slug: "Best-options-for-Non-Google-cloud-storage-as-of-2022"
    +title: "Best options for Non-Google cloud storage as of 2022?"
    +url: null
    +body: """
      What are Lemmy’s feelings about the best cloud storage options these days, if you really want to break into the 1-2TB range? I’m not there yet, probably not even halfway there, but I like the peace of mind of potentially having the space if I need it. And I think subscribing to something in the Netflix price range is maybe something I’m ready for.\n
      \n
      My thoughts so far:\n
      \n
      [pcloud](https://www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime) - Intriguing because you can pay for a “lifetime” plan of 2TB of storage. But it’s $350, which is a lot, and I don’t know that I love the interface or usability, and I don’t know if I trust them.\n
      \n
      [iDrive](https://www.idrive.com/pricing) - Super affordable. 5tb for “just” $80/year. It might be the best deal, but nothing about their identity suggests to me that they are “good guys.” By which I mean, I’m not sure I trust them to make long-term promises for any specific plan.\n
      \n
      [Mega](https://mega.io/pro) - I like its very anti-google, very encrypted attitude. Born from the ashes of megaupload, they built encryption and zero knowledge into it. I LOVE that you can connect to it through the android app Solid Explorer and therefore don’t even need the mega app if you don’t want it. I hear bad things about it though? And it’s pretty expensive at $115 per year for 2TB.\n
      \n
      My personal thoughts/reasoning/caveats:\n
      \n
      **Homebrew stuff**: I don’t *quite* trust myself to use a homebrew setup like Nextcloud or Syncthing correctly. There’s too much in terms of labor, upkeep, catastrophic single points of failure where you could lose everything. I feel like I’m 70% of the way to being smart enough to do this.\n
      \n
      **Avoiding the Bad Guys and the Free Stuff**: I’ve tried the free version of just about everything, from Google to Onedrive to Dropbox to Mediafire to Mega. There’s even an android app that offers 1 free terrabyte?? But I don’t want something from the bad guys where I’m going to be integrated into their closed source death drap: Google, Amazon, Microsoft, Apple, and I don’t want a too-good-to-be-true free service where I’m the product.\n
      \n
      I also would prefer to avoid something from the upstarts who kinda-sorta imitate the bad guys: Dropbox, Mediafire, Box. Because I’m not sure how much I can trust any specific long term promise from them.\n
      \n
      **It sounds like you’re saying nothing is good enough! What exactly do you want!?** Something from good guys, not bad guys. Something like [Standardnotes](https://standardnotes.com/), but for file storage. They emphasize privacy, good governance principles and longevity of their service. Or [Linode](https://www.linode.com/support-experience/), with their independence, sense of mission, love of Linux & free software, all of which tells me they are good guys.\n
      \n
      Probably the correct answer is (1) here’s this magical perfect source I never thought of, or (2) I’m thinking this much about it, I should probably do Nextcloud or syncthing given all the constraints that I’m putting out there.\n
      \n
      Anyway, that’s my thoughts on cloud storage. What are yours?
      """
    +type: "article"
    +lang: "en"
    +isOc: false
    +hasEmbed: false
    +commentCount: 25
    +favouriteCount: 41
    +score: 0
    +isAdult: false
    +sticky: false
    +lastActive: DateTime @1689719793 {#2414
      date: 2023-07-19 00:36:33.0 +02:00
    }
    +ip: null
    +adaAmount: 0
    +tags: null
    +mentions: null
    +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1884 …}
    +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1973 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1959 …}
    +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1927 …}
    +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2442 …}
    +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2440 …}
    +children: []
    -id: 1294
    -titleTs: "'2022':11 'best':1 'cloud':7 'googl':6 'non':5 'non-googl':4 'option':2 'storag':8"
    -bodyTs: "'-2':23 '/),':451 '/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':77 '/pricing)':123 '/pro)':173 '/support-experience/),':471 '1':22,337,497 '115':240 '2':509 '2tb':88,244 '350':94 '5tb':126 '70':290 '80/year':129 'afford':125 'also':387 'amazon':364 'android':208,333 'answer':495 'anti':179 'anti-googl':178 'anyway':534 'app':209,220,334 'appl':366 'ash':187 'attitud':183 'avoid':301,391 'bad':229,303,348,402,444 'best':8,134 'born':184 'box':406 'break':19 'built':191 'catastroph':275 'close':359 'cloud':9,540 'connect':203 'constraint':527 'correct':265,494 'could':282 'day':13 'deal':135 'death':361 'drap':362 'dropbox':324,404 'emphas':457 'encrypt':182,192 'enough':297,433 'even':33,216,331 'everyth':284,318 'exact':435 'expens':238 'explor':211 'failur':279 'far':73 'feel':5,286 'file':454 'free':307,313,338,379,481 'given':524 'go':353 'good':147,375,432,441,459,490 'googl':180,320,363 'govern':460 'guy':148,304,349,403,442,445,491 'halfway':34 'hear':228 'homebrew':248,259 'ident':140 'idriv':120 'imit':400 'independ':474 'integr':356 'interfac':108 'intrigu':78 'kinda':398 'kinda-sorta':397 'know':103,115 'knowledg':195 'labor':273 'lemmi':3 'lifetim':85 'like':38,175,261,287,426,447 'linod':468 'linux':480 'long':163,419 'long-term':162 'longev':463 'lose':283 'lot':98 'love':106,199,478 'm':27,67,154,289,352,383,409,511,530 'magic':501 'make':161 'mayb':64 'mean':152 'mediafir':326,405 'mega':170,219,328 'mega.io':172 'mega.io/pro)':171 'megaupload':189 'microsoft':365 'might':131 'mind':42 'mission':477 'much':269,413,514 'need':50,217 'netflix':60 'never':505 'nextcloud':262,521 'noth':137,430 'offer':336 'onedr':322 'option':11 'pay':82 'pcloud':74 'peac':40 'per':241 'perfect':502 'person':246 'plan':86,169 'point':277 'potenti':44 'prefer':389 'pretti':237 'price':61 'principl':461 'privaci':458 'probabl':31,492,519 'product':385 'promis':165,421 'put':531 'quit':253 'rang':25,62 're':428 'readi':68 'realli':16 'say':429 'sens':475 'servic':380,466 'setup':260 'singl':276 'smart':296 'softwar':482 'solid':210 'someth':57,65,345,392,439,446 'sorta':399 'sound':425 'sourc':360,503 'space':47 'specif':168,418 'standardnot':448 'standardnotes.com':450 'standardnotes.com/),':449 'storag':10,90,455,541 'stuff':249,308 'subscrib':55 'suggest':141 'super':124 'sure':156,411 'syncth':264,523 'tb':24 'tell':486 'term':164,271,420 'terrabyt':339 'therefor':213 'thing':230 'think':54,512 'though':233 'thought':71,506,538 'thoughts/reasoning/caveats':247 'too-good-to-be-tru':373 'tri':311 'true':378 'trust':118,158,254,416 'upkeep':274 'upstart':395 'usabl':110 'use':257 've':310 'version':314 'want':17,225,344,371,438 'way':293 'would':388 'www.idrive.com':122 'www.idrive.com/pricing)':121 'www.linode.com':470 'www.linode.com/support-experience/),':469 'www.pcloud.com':76 'www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':75 'year':242 'yet':30 'zero':194"
    +cross: false
    +upVotes: 0
    +downVotes: 0
    +ranking: 1642260128
    +visibility: "visible             "
    +apId: "https://lemmy.ml/post/149005"
    +editedAt: null
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1642173728 {#1793
      date: 2022-01-14 16:22:08.0 +01:00
    }
  }
  +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
  +image: null
  +parent: null
  +root: null
  +body: "is this thread really 2 years old?"
  +lang: "en"
  +isAdult: false
  +favouriteCount: 5
  +score: 0
  +lastActive: DateTime @1689560992 {#4143
    date: 2023-07-17 04:29:52.0 +02:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +tags: null
  +mentions: [
    "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
  ]
  +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4138 …}
  +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4129 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4132 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4127 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4125 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4123 …}
  -id: 20236
  -bodyTs: "'2':5 'old':7 'realli':4 'thread':3 'year':6"
  +ranking: 0
  +commentCount: 0
  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/comment/1030043"
  +editedAt: null
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689560992 {#4144
    date: 2023-07-17 04:29:52.0 +02:00
  }
}
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
27 DENIED edit 
App\Entity\EntryComment {#4137
  +user: App\Entity\User {#4121 …}
  +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419
    +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#1970 …}
    +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265
      +icon: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#246 …}
      +name: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +title: "asklemmy"
      +description: """
        A loosely moderated place to ask open-ended questions\n
        \n
        **[Search asklemmy](https://lemmy.ml/search?q=&type=Posts&listingType=All&communityId=8&page=1&sort=TopAll) 🔍**\n
        \n
        If your post meets the following criteria, it’s welcome here!\n
        \n
        1. Open-ended\n
        2. Not offensive: at this point, we do not have the bandwidth to moderate overtly political discussions\n
        3. **Not regarding using or support for Lemmy**: [context](https://lemmy.ml/post/1223478), find help in the list of support alternatives below\n
        4. Not ad nauseam inducing: please make sure it is a question that would be new to most members\n
        5. [An actual topic of discussion](https://lemmy.ml/post/1239589)\n
        \n
        Support alternatives:\n
        \n
        - [!lemmy_support@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/lemmy_support)\n
        - [!nostupidlemmyquestions@lemmy.dbzer0.com](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/nostupidlemmyquestions)\n
        - [!selfhosted@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/selfhosted)\n
        \n
        ~Icon~ ~by~ ~@Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de~
        """
      +rules: null
      +subscriptionsCount: 0
      +entryCount: 580
      +entryCommentCount: 15558
      +postCount: 7
      +postCommentCount: 129
      +isAdult: false
      +customCss: null
      +lastActive: DateTime @1689748304 {#275
        date: 2023-07-19 08:31:44.0 +02:00
      }
      +markedForDeletionAt: null
      +tags: null
      +moderators: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#237 …}
      +ownershipRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#233 …}
      +moderatorRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#222 …}
      +entries: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#180 …}
      +posts: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#138 …}
      +subscriptions: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#200 …}
      +bans: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#117 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#103 …}
      +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#81 …}
      +logs: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#71 …}
      +awards: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1346 …}
      +categories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1823 …}
      -id: 9
      +apId: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +apProfileId: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apPublicUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apFollowersUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy/followers"
      +apInboxUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/inbox"
      +apDomain: "lemmy.ml"
      +apPreferredUsername: "asklemmy"
      +apDiscoverable: true
      +apManuallyApprovesFollowers: null
      +privateKey: null
      +publicKey: null
      +apFetchedAt: DateTime @1689747596 {#269
        date: 2023-07-19 08:19:56.0 +02:00
      }
      +apDeletedAt: null
      +apTimeoutAt: null
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1686889707 {#271
        date: 2023-06-16 06:28:27.0 +02:00
      }
    }
    +image: null
    +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#1915 …}
    +slug: "Best-options-for-Non-Google-cloud-storage-as-of-2022"
    +title: "Best options for Non-Google cloud storage as of 2022?"
    +url: null
    +body: """
      What are Lemmy’s feelings about the best cloud storage options these days, if you really want to break into the 1-2TB range? I’m not there yet, probably not even halfway there, but I like the peace of mind of potentially having the space if I need it. And I think subscribing to something in the Netflix price range is maybe something I’m ready for.\n
      \n
      My thoughts so far:\n
      \n
      [pcloud](https://www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime) - Intriguing because you can pay for a “lifetime” plan of 2TB of storage. But it’s $350, which is a lot, and I don’t know that I love the interface or usability, and I don’t know if I trust them.\n
      \n
      [iDrive](https://www.idrive.com/pricing) - Super affordable. 5tb for “just” $80/year. It might be the best deal, but nothing about their identity suggests to me that they are “good guys.” By which I mean, I’m not sure I trust them to make long-term promises for any specific plan.\n
      \n
      [Mega](https://mega.io/pro) - I like its very anti-google, very encrypted attitude. Born from the ashes of megaupload, they built encryption and zero knowledge into it. I LOVE that you can connect to it through the android app Solid Explorer and therefore don’t even need the mega app if you don’t want it. I hear bad things about it though? And it’s pretty expensive at $115 per year for 2TB.\n
      \n
      My personal thoughts/reasoning/caveats:\n
      \n
      **Homebrew stuff**: I don’t *quite* trust myself to use a homebrew setup like Nextcloud or Syncthing correctly. There’s too much in terms of labor, upkeep, catastrophic single points of failure where you could lose everything. I feel like I’m 70% of the way to being smart enough to do this.\n
      \n
      **Avoiding the Bad Guys and the Free Stuff**: I’ve tried the free version of just about everything, from Google to Onedrive to Dropbox to Mediafire to Mega. There’s even an android app that offers 1 free terrabyte?? But I don’t want something from the bad guys where I’m going to be integrated into their closed source death drap: Google, Amazon, Microsoft, Apple, and I don’t want a too-good-to-be-true free service where I’m the product.\n
      \n
      I also would prefer to avoid something from the upstarts who kinda-sorta imitate the bad guys: Dropbox, Mediafire, Box. Because I’m not sure how much I can trust any specific long term promise from them.\n
      \n
      **It sounds like you’re saying nothing is good enough! What exactly do you want!?** Something from good guys, not bad guys. Something like [Standardnotes](https://standardnotes.com/), but for file storage. They emphasize privacy, good governance principles and longevity of their service. Or [Linode](https://www.linode.com/support-experience/), with their independence, sense of mission, love of Linux & free software, all of which tells me they are good guys.\n
      \n
      Probably the correct answer is (1) here’s this magical perfect source I never thought of, or (2) I’m thinking this much about it, I should probably do Nextcloud or syncthing given all the constraints that I’m putting out there.\n
      \n
      Anyway, that’s my thoughts on cloud storage. What are yours?
      """
    +type: "article"
    +lang: "en"
    +isOc: false
    +hasEmbed: false
    +commentCount: 25
    +favouriteCount: 41
    +score: 0
    +isAdult: false
    +sticky: false
    +lastActive: DateTime @1689719793 {#2414
      date: 2023-07-19 00:36:33.0 +02:00
    }
    +ip: null
    +adaAmount: 0
    +tags: null
    +mentions: null
    +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1884 …}
    +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1973 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1959 …}
    +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1927 …}
    +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2442 …}
    +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2440 …}
    +children: []
    -id: 1294
    -titleTs: "'2022':11 'best':1 'cloud':7 'googl':6 'non':5 'non-googl':4 'option':2 'storag':8"
    -bodyTs: "'-2':23 '/),':451 '/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':77 '/pricing)':123 '/pro)':173 '/support-experience/),':471 '1':22,337,497 '115':240 '2':509 '2tb':88,244 '350':94 '5tb':126 '70':290 '80/year':129 'afford':125 'also':387 'amazon':364 'android':208,333 'answer':495 'anti':179 'anti-googl':178 'anyway':534 'app':209,220,334 'appl':366 'ash':187 'attitud':183 'avoid':301,391 'bad':229,303,348,402,444 'best':8,134 'born':184 'box':406 'break':19 'built':191 'catastroph':275 'close':359 'cloud':9,540 'connect':203 'constraint':527 'correct':265,494 'could':282 'day':13 'deal':135 'death':361 'drap':362 'dropbox':324,404 'emphas':457 'encrypt':182,192 'enough':297,433 'even':33,216,331 'everyth':284,318 'exact':435 'expens':238 'explor':211 'failur':279 'far':73 'feel':5,286 'file':454 'free':307,313,338,379,481 'given':524 'go':353 'good':147,375,432,441,459,490 'googl':180,320,363 'govern':460 'guy':148,304,349,403,442,445,491 'halfway':34 'hear':228 'homebrew':248,259 'ident':140 'idriv':120 'imit':400 'independ':474 'integr':356 'interfac':108 'intrigu':78 'kinda':398 'kinda-sorta':397 'know':103,115 'knowledg':195 'labor':273 'lemmi':3 'lifetim':85 'like':38,175,261,287,426,447 'linod':468 'linux':480 'long':163,419 'long-term':162 'longev':463 'lose':283 'lot':98 'love':106,199,478 'm':27,67,154,289,352,383,409,511,530 'magic':501 'make':161 'mayb':64 'mean':152 'mediafir':326,405 'mega':170,219,328 'mega.io':172 'mega.io/pro)':171 'megaupload':189 'microsoft':365 'might':131 'mind':42 'mission':477 'much':269,413,514 'need':50,217 'netflix':60 'never':505 'nextcloud':262,521 'noth':137,430 'offer':336 'onedr':322 'option':11 'pay':82 'pcloud':74 'peac':40 'per':241 'perfect':502 'person':246 'plan':86,169 'point':277 'potenti':44 'prefer':389 'pretti':237 'price':61 'principl':461 'privaci':458 'probabl':31,492,519 'product':385 'promis':165,421 'put':531 'quit':253 'rang':25,62 're':428 'readi':68 'realli':16 'say':429 'sens':475 'servic':380,466 'setup':260 'singl':276 'smart':296 'softwar':482 'solid':210 'someth':57,65,345,392,439,446 'sorta':399 'sound':425 'sourc':360,503 'space':47 'specif':168,418 'standardnot':448 'standardnotes.com':450 'standardnotes.com/),':449 'storag':10,90,455,541 'stuff':249,308 'subscrib':55 'suggest':141 'super':124 'sure':156,411 'syncth':264,523 'tb':24 'tell':486 'term':164,271,420 'terrabyt':339 'therefor':213 'thing':230 'think':54,512 'though':233 'thought':71,506,538 'thoughts/reasoning/caveats':247 'too-good-to-be-tru':373 'tri':311 'true':378 'trust':118,158,254,416 'upkeep':274 'upstart':395 'usabl':110 'use':257 've':310 'version':314 'want':17,225,344,371,438 'way':293 'would':388 'www.idrive.com':122 'www.idrive.com/pricing)':121 'www.linode.com':470 'www.linode.com/support-experience/),':469 'www.pcloud.com':76 'www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':75 'year':242 'yet':30 'zero':194"
    +cross: false
    +upVotes: 0
    +downVotes: 0
    +ranking: 1642260128
    +visibility: "visible             "
    +apId: "https://lemmy.ml/post/149005"
    +editedAt: null
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1642173728 {#1793
      date: 2022-01-14 16:22:08.0 +01:00
    }
  }
  +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
  +image: null
  +parent: null
  +root: null
  +body: "is this thread really 2 years old?"
  +lang: "en"
  +isAdult: false
  +favouriteCount: 5
  +score: 0
  +lastActive: DateTime @1689560992 {#4143
    date: 2023-07-17 04:29:52.0 +02:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +tags: null
  +mentions: [
    "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
  ]
  +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4138 …}
  +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4129 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4132 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4127 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4125 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4123 …}
  -id: 20236
  -bodyTs: "'2':5 'old':7 'realli':4 'thread':3 'year':6"
  +ranking: 0
  +commentCount: 0
  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/comment/1030043"
  +editedAt: null
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689560992 {#4144
    date: 2023-07-17 04:29:52.0 +02:00
  }
}
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
28 DENIED moderate 
App\Entity\EntryComment {#4137
  +user: App\Entity\User {#4121 …}
  +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419
    +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#1970 …}
    +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265
      +icon: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#246 …}
      +name: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +title: "asklemmy"
      +description: """
        A loosely moderated place to ask open-ended questions\n
        \n
        **[Search asklemmy](https://lemmy.ml/search?q=&type=Posts&listingType=All&communityId=8&page=1&sort=TopAll) 🔍**\n
        \n
        If your post meets the following criteria, it’s welcome here!\n
        \n
        1. Open-ended\n
        2. Not offensive: at this point, we do not have the bandwidth to moderate overtly political discussions\n
        3. **Not regarding using or support for Lemmy**: [context](https://lemmy.ml/post/1223478), find help in the list of support alternatives below\n
        4. Not ad nauseam inducing: please make sure it is a question that would be new to most members\n
        5. [An actual topic of discussion](https://lemmy.ml/post/1239589)\n
        \n
        Support alternatives:\n
        \n
        - [!lemmy_support@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/lemmy_support)\n
        - [!nostupidlemmyquestions@lemmy.dbzer0.com](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/nostupidlemmyquestions)\n
        - [!selfhosted@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/selfhosted)\n
        \n
        ~Icon~ ~by~ ~@Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de~
        """
      +rules: null
      +subscriptionsCount: 0
      +entryCount: 580
      +entryCommentCount: 15558
      +postCount: 7
      +postCommentCount: 129
      +isAdult: false
      +customCss: null
      +lastActive: DateTime @1689748304 {#275
        date: 2023-07-19 08:31:44.0 +02:00
      }
      +markedForDeletionAt: null
      +tags: null
      +moderators: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#237 …}
      +ownershipRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#233 …}
      +moderatorRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#222 …}
      +entries: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#180 …}
      +posts: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#138 …}
      +subscriptions: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#200 …}
      +bans: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#117 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#103 …}
      +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#81 …}
      +logs: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#71 …}
      +awards: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1346 …}
      +categories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1823 …}
      -id: 9
      +apId: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +apProfileId: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apPublicUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apFollowersUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy/followers"
      +apInboxUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/inbox"
      +apDomain: "lemmy.ml"
      +apPreferredUsername: "asklemmy"
      +apDiscoverable: true
      +apManuallyApprovesFollowers: null
      +privateKey: null
      +publicKey: null
      +apFetchedAt: DateTime @1689747596 {#269
        date: 2023-07-19 08:19:56.0 +02:00
      }
      +apDeletedAt: null
      +apTimeoutAt: null
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1686889707 {#271
        date: 2023-06-16 06:28:27.0 +02:00
      }
    }
    +image: null
    +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#1915 …}
    +slug: "Best-options-for-Non-Google-cloud-storage-as-of-2022"
    +title: "Best options for Non-Google cloud storage as of 2022?"
    +url: null
    +body: """
      What are Lemmy’s feelings about the best cloud storage options these days, if you really want to break into the 1-2TB range? I’m not there yet, probably not even halfway there, but I like the peace of mind of potentially having the space if I need it. And I think subscribing to something in the Netflix price range is maybe something I’m ready for.\n
      \n
      My thoughts so far:\n
      \n
      [pcloud](https://www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime) - Intriguing because you can pay for a “lifetime” plan of 2TB of storage. But it’s $350, which is a lot, and I don’t know that I love the interface or usability, and I don’t know if I trust them.\n
      \n
      [iDrive](https://www.idrive.com/pricing) - Super affordable. 5tb for “just” $80/year. It might be the best deal, but nothing about their identity suggests to me that they are “good guys.” By which I mean, I’m not sure I trust them to make long-term promises for any specific plan.\n
      \n
      [Mega](https://mega.io/pro) - I like its very anti-google, very encrypted attitude. Born from the ashes of megaupload, they built encryption and zero knowledge into it. I LOVE that you can connect to it through the android app Solid Explorer and therefore don’t even need the mega app if you don’t want it. I hear bad things about it though? And it’s pretty expensive at $115 per year for 2TB.\n
      \n
      My personal thoughts/reasoning/caveats:\n
      \n
      **Homebrew stuff**: I don’t *quite* trust myself to use a homebrew setup like Nextcloud or Syncthing correctly. There’s too much in terms of labor, upkeep, catastrophic single points of failure where you could lose everything. I feel like I’m 70% of the way to being smart enough to do this.\n
      \n
      **Avoiding the Bad Guys and the Free Stuff**: I’ve tried the free version of just about everything, from Google to Onedrive to Dropbox to Mediafire to Mega. There’s even an android app that offers 1 free terrabyte?? But I don’t want something from the bad guys where I’m going to be integrated into their closed source death drap: Google, Amazon, Microsoft, Apple, and I don’t want a too-good-to-be-true free service where I’m the product.\n
      \n
      I also would prefer to avoid something from the upstarts who kinda-sorta imitate the bad guys: Dropbox, Mediafire, Box. Because I’m not sure how much I can trust any specific long term promise from them.\n
      \n
      **It sounds like you’re saying nothing is good enough! What exactly do you want!?** Something from good guys, not bad guys. Something like [Standardnotes](https://standardnotes.com/), but for file storage. They emphasize privacy, good governance principles and longevity of their service. Or [Linode](https://www.linode.com/support-experience/), with their independence, sense of mission, love of Linux & free software, all of which tells me they are good guys.\n
      \n
      Probably the correct answer is (1) here’s this magical perfect source I never thought of, or (2) I’m thinking this much about it, I should probably do Nextcloud or syncthing given all the constraints that I’m putting out there.\n
      \n
      Anyway, that’s my thoughts on cloud storage. What are yours?
      """
    +type: "article"
    +lang: "en"
    +isOc: false
    +hasEmbed: false
    +commentCount: 25
    +favouriteCount: 41
    +score: 0
    +isAdult: false
    +sticky: false
    +lastActive: DateTime @1689719793 {#2414
      date: 2023-07-19 00:36:33.0 +02:00
    }
    +ip: null
    +adaAmount: 0
    +tags: null
    +mentions: null
    +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1884 …}
    +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1973 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1959 …}
    +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1927 …}
    +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2442 …}
    +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2440 …}
    +children: []
    -id: 1294
    -titleTs: "'2022':11 'best':1 'cloud':7 'googl':6 'non':5 'non-googl':4 'option':2 'storag':8"
    -bodyTs: "'-2':23 '/),':451 '/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':77 '/pricing)':123 '/pro)':173 '/support-experience/),':471 '1':22,337,497 '115':240 '2':509 '2tb':88,244 '350':94 '5tb':126 '70':290 '80/year':129 'afford':125 'also':387 'amazon':364 'android':208,333 'answer':495 'anti':179 'anti-googl':178 'anyway':534 'app':209,220,334 'appl':366 'ash':187 'attitud':183 'avoid':301,391 'bad':229,303,348,402,444 'best':8,134 'born':184 'box':406 'break':19 'built':191 'catastroph':275 'close':359 'cloud':9,540 'connect':203 'constraint':527 'correct':265,494 'could':282 'day':13 'deal':135 'death':361 'drap':362 'dropbox':324,404 'emphas':457 'encrypt':182,192 'enough':297,433 'even':33,216,331 'everyth':284,318 'exact':435 'expens':238 'explor':211 'failur':279 'far':73 'feel':5,286 'file':454 'free':307,313,338,379,481 'given':524 'go':353 'good':147,375,432,441,459,490 'googl':180,320,363 'govern':460 'guy':148,304,349,403,442,445,491 'halfway':34 'hear':228 'homebrew':248,259 'ident':140 'idriv':120 'imit':400 'independ':474 'integr':356 'interfac':108 'intrigu':78 'kinda':398 'kinda-sorta':397 'know':103,115 'knowledg':195 'labor':273 'lemmi':3 'lifetim':85 'like':38,175,261,287,426,447 'linod':468 'linux':480 'long':163,419 'long-term':162 'longev':463 'lose':283 'lot':98 'love':106,199,478 'm':27,67,154,289,352,383,409,511,530 'magic':501 'make':161 'mayb':64 'mean':152 'mediafir':326,405 'mega':170,219,328 'mega.io':172 'mega.io/pro)':171 'megaupload':189 'microsoft':365 'might':131 'mind':42 'mission':477 'much':269,413,514 'need':50,217 'netflix':60 'never':505 'nextcloud':262,521 'noth':137,430 'offer':336 'onedr':322 'option':11 'pay':82 'pcloud':74 'peac':40 'per':241 'perfect':502 'person':246 'plan':86,169 'point':277 'potenti':44 'prefer':389 'pretti':237 'price':61 'principl':461 'privaci':458 'probabl':31,492,519 'product':385 'promis':165,421 'put':531 'quit':253 'rang':25,62 're':428 'readi':68 'realli':16 'say':429 'sens':475 'servic':380,466 'setup':260 'singl':276 'smart':296 'softwar':482 'solid':210 'someth':57,65,345,392,439,446 'sorta':399 'sound':425 'sourc':360,503 'space':47 'specif':168,418 'standardnot':448 'standardnotes.com':450 'standardnotes.com/),':449 'storag':10,90,455,541 'stuff':249,308 'subscrib':55 'suggest':141 'super':124 'sure':156,411 'syncth':264,523 'tb':24 'tell':486 'term':164,271,420 'terrabyt':339 'therefor':213 'thing':230 'think':54,512 'though':233 'thought':71,506,538 'thoughts/reasoning/caveats':247 'too-good-to-be-tru':373 'tri':311 'true':378 'trust':118,158,254,416 'upkeep':274 'upstart':395 'usabl':110 'use':257 've':310 'version':314 'want':17,225,344,371,438 'way':293 'would':388 'www.idrive.com':122 'www.idrive.com/pricing)':121 'www.linode.com':470 'www.linode.com/support-experience/),':469 'www.pcloud.com':76 'www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':75 'year':242 'yet':30 'zero':194"
    +cross: false
    +upVotes: 0
    +downVotes: 0
    +ranking: 1642260128
    +visibility: "visible             "
    +apId: "https://lemmy.ml/post/149005"
    +editedAt: null
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1642173728 {#1793
      date: 2022-01-14 16:22:08.0 +01:00
    }
  }
  +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
  +image: null
  +parent: null
  +root: null
  +body: "is this thread really 2 years old?"
  +lang: "en"
  +isAdult: false
  +favouriteCount: 5
  +score: 0
  +lastActive: DateTime @1689560992 {#4143
    date: 2023-07-17 04:29:52.0 +02:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +tags: null
  +mentions: [
    "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
  ]
  +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4138 …}
  +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4129 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4132 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4127 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4125 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4123 …}
  -id: 20236
  -bodyTs: "'2':5 'old':7 'realli':4 'thread':3 'year':6"
  +ranking: 0
  +commentCount: 0
  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/comment/1030043"
  +editedAt: null
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689560992 {#4144
    date: 2023-07-17 04:29:52.0 +02:00
  }
}
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
29 DENIED ROLE_USER 
null
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
30 DENIED moderate 
App\Entity\EntryComment {#4221
  +user: App\Entity\User {#4234 …}
  +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419
    +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#1970 …}
    +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265
      +icon: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#246 …}
      +name: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +title: "asklemmy"
      +description: """
        A loosely moderated place to ask open-ended questions\n
        \n
        **[Search asklemmy](https://lemmy.ml/search?q=&type=Posts&listingType=All&communityId=8&page=1&sort=TopAll) 🔍**\n
        \n
        If your post meets the following criteria, it’s welcome here!\n
        \n
        1. Open-ended\n
        2. Not offensive: at this point, we do not have the bandwidth to moderate overtly political discussions\n
        3. **Not regarding using or support for Lemmy**: [context](https://lemmy.ml/post/1223478), find help in the list of support alternatives below\n
        4. Not ad nauseam inducing: please make sure it is a question that would be new to most members\n
        5. [An actual topic of discussion](https://lemmy.ml/post/1239589)\n
        \n
        Support alternatives:\n
        \n
        - [!lemmy_support@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/lemmy_support)\n
        - [!nostupidlemmyquestions@lemmy.dbzer0.com](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/nostupidlemmyquestions)\n
        - [!selfhosted@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/selfhosted)\n
        \n
        ~Icon~ ~by~ ~@Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de~
        """
      +rules: null
      +subscriptionsCount: 0
      +entryCount: 580
      +entryCommentCount: 15558
      +postCount: 7
      +postCommentCount: 129
      +isAdult: false
      +customCss: null
      +lastActive: DateTime @1689748304 {#275
        date: 2023-07-19 08:31:44.0 +02:00
      }
      +markedForDeletionAt: null
      +tags: null
      +moderators: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#237 …}
      +ownershipRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#233 …}
      +moderatorRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#222 …}
      +entries: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#180 …}
      +posts: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#138 …}
      +subscriptions: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#200 …}
      +bans: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#117 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#103 …}
      +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#81 …}
      +logs: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#71 …}
      +awards: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1346 …}
      +categories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1823 …}
      -id: 9
      +apId: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +apProfileId: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apPublicUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apFollowersUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy/followers"
      +apInboxUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/inbox"
      +apDomain: "lemmy.ml"
      +apPreferredUsername: "asklemmy"
      +apDiscoverable: true
      +apManuallyApprovesFollowers: null
      +privateKey: null
      +publicKey: null
      +apFetchedAt: DateTime @1689747596 {#269
        date: 2023-07-19 08:19:56.0 +02:00
      }
      +apDeletedAt: null
      +apTimeoutAt: null
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1686889707 {#271
        date: 2023-06-16 06:28:27.0 +02:00
      }
    }
    +image: null
    +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#1915 …}
    +slug: "Best-options-for-Non-Google-cloud-storage-as-of-2022"
    +title: "Best options for Non-Google cloud storage as of 2022?"
    +url: null
    +body: """
      What are Lemmy’s feelings about the best cloud storage options these days, if you really want to break into the 1-2TB range? I’m not there yet, probably not even halfway there, but I like the peace of mind of potentially having the space if I need it. And I think subscribing to something in the Netflix price range is maybe something I’m ready for.\n
      \n
      My thoughts so far:\n
      \n
      [pcloud](https://www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime) - Intriguing because you can pay for a “lifetime” plan of 2TB of storage. But it’s $350, which is a lot, and I don’t know that I love the interface or usability, and I don’t know if I trust them.\n
      \n
      [iDrive](https://www.idrive.com/pricing) - Super affordable. 5tb for “just” $80/year. It might be the best deal, but nothing about their identity suggests to me that they are “good guys.” By which I mean, I’m not sure I trust them to make long-term promises for any specific plan.\n
      \n
      [Mega](https://mega.io/pro) - I like its very anti-google, very encrypted attitude. Born from the ashes of megaupload, they built encryption and zero knowledge into it. I LOVE that you can connect to it through the android app Solid Explorer and therefore don’t even need the mega app if you don’t want it. I hear bad things about it though? And it’s pretty expensive at $115 per year for 2TB.\n
      \n
      My personal thoughts/reasoning/caveats:\n
      \n
      **Homebrew stuff**: I don’t *quite* trust myself to use a homebrew setup like Nextcloud or Syncthing correctly. There’s too much in terms of labor, upkeep, catastrophic single points of failure where you could lose everything. I feel like I’m 70% of the way to being smart enough to do this.\n
      \n
      **Avoiding the Bad Guys and the Free Stuff**: I’ve tried the free version of just about everything, from Google to Onedrive to Dropbox to Mediafire to Mega. There’s even an android app that offers 1 free terrabyte?? But I don’t want something from the bad guys where I’m going to be integrated into their closed source death drap: Google, Amazon, Microsoft, Apple, and I don’t want a too-good-to-be-true free service where I’m the product.\n
      \n
      I also would prefer to avoid something from the upstarts who kinda-sorta imitate the bad guys: Dropbox, Mediafire, Box. Because I’m not sure how much I can trust any specific long term promise from them.\n
      \n
      **It sounds like you’re saying nothing is good enough! What exactly do you want!?** Something from good guys, not bad guys. Something like [Standardnotes](https://standardnotes.com/), but for file storage. They emphasize privacy, good governance principles and longevity of their service. Or [Linode](https://www.linode.com/support-experience/), with their independence, sense of mission, love of Linux & free software, all of which tells me they are good guys.\n
      \n
      Probably the correct answer is (1) here’s this magical perfect source I never thought of, or (2) I’m thinking this much about it, I should probably do Nextcloud or syncthing given all the constraints that I’m putting out there.\n
      \n
      Anyway, that’s my thoughts on cloud storage. What are yours?
      """
    +type: "article"
    +lang: "en"
    +isOc: false
    +hasEmbed: false
    +commentCount: 25
    +favouriteCount: 41
    +score: 0
    +isAdult: false
    +sticky: false
    +lastActive: DateTime @1689719793 {#2414
      date: 2023-07-19 00:36:33.0 +02:00
    }
    +ip: null
    +adaAmount: 0
    +tags: null
    +mentions: null
    +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1884 …}
    +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1973 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1959 …}
    +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1927 …}
    +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2442 …}
    +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2440 …}
    +children: []
    -id: 1294
    -titleTs: "'2022':11 'best':1 'cloud':7 'googl':6 'non':5 'non-googl':4 'option':2 'storag':8"
    -bodyTs: "'-2':23 '/),':451 '/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':77 '/pricing)':123 '/pro)':173 '/support-experience/),':471 '1':22,337,497 '115':240 '2':509 '2tb':88,244 '350':94 '5tb':126 '70':290 '80/year':129 'afford':125 'also':387 'amazon':364 'android':208,333 'answer':495 'anti':179 'anti-googl':178 'anyway':534 'app':209,220,334 'appl':366 'ash':187 'attitud':183 'avoid':301,391 'bad':229,303,348,402,444 'best':8,134 'born':184 'box':406 'break':19 'built':191 'catastroph':275 'close':359 'cloud':9,540 'connect':203 'constraint':527 'correct':265,494 'could':282 'day':13 'deal':135 'death':361 'drap':362 'dropbox':324,404 'emphas':457 'encrypt':182,192 'enough':297,433 'even':33,216,331 'everyth':284,318 'exact':435 'expens':238 'explor':211 'failur':279 'far':73 'feel':5,286 'file':454 'free':307,313,338,379,481 'given':524 'go':353 'good':147,375,432,441,459,490 'googl':180,320,363 'govern':460 'guy':148,304,349,403,442,445,491 'halfway':34 'hear':228 'homebrew':248,259 'ident':140 'idriv':120 'imit':400 'independ':474 'integr':356 'interfac':108 'intrigu':78 'kinda':398 'kinda-sorta':397 'know':103,115 'knowledg':195 'labor':273 'lemmi':3 'lifetim':85 'like':38,175,261,287,426,447 'linod':468 'linux':480 'long':163,419 'long-term':162 'longev':463 'lose':283 'lot':98 'love':106,199,478 'm':27,67,154,289,352,383,409,511,530 'magic':501 'make':161 'mayb':64 'mean':152 'mediafir':326,405 'mega':170,219,328 'mega.io':172 'mega.io/pro)':171 'megaupload':189 'microsoft':365 'might':131 'mind':42 'mission':477 'much':269,413,514 'need':50,217 'netflix':60 'never':505 'nextcloud':262,521 'noth':137,430 'offer':336 'onedr':322 'option':11 'pay':82 'pcloud':74 'peac':40 'per':241 'perfect':502 'person':246 'plan':86,169 'point':277 'potenti':44 'prefer':389 'pretti':237 'price':61 'principl':461 'privaci':458 'probabl':31,492,519 'product':385 'promis':165,421 'put':531 'quit':253 'rang':25,62 're':428 'readi':68 'realli':16 'say':429 'sens':475 'servic':380,466 'setup':260 'singl':276 'smart':296 'softwar':482 'solid':210 'someth':57,65,345,392,439,446 'sorta':399 'sound':425 'sourc':360,503 'space':47 'specif':168,418 'standardnot':448 'standardnotes.com':450 'standardnotes.com/),':449 'storag':10,90,455,541 'stuff':249,308 'subscrib':55 'suggest':141 'super':124 'sure':156,411 'syncth':264,523 'tb':24 'tell':486 'term':164,271,420 'terrabyt':339 'therefor':213 'thing':230 'think':54,512 'though':233 'thought':71,506,538 'thoughts/reasoning/caveats':247 'too-good-to-be-tru':373 'tri':311 'true':378 'trust':118,158,254,416 'upkeep':274 'upstart':395 'usabl':110 'use':257 've':310 'version':314 'want':17,225,344,371,438 'way':293 'would':388 'www.idrive.com':122 'www.idrive.com/pricing)':121 'www.linode.com':470 'www.linode.com/support-experience/),':469 'www.pcloud.com':76 'www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':75 'year':242 'yet':30 'zero':194"
    +cross: false
    +upVotes: 0
    +downVotes: 0
    +ranking: 1642260128
    +visibility: "visible             "
    +apId: "https://lemmy.ml/post/149005"
    +editedAt: null
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1642173728 {#1793
      date: 2022-01-14 16:22:08.0 +01:00
    }
  }
  +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
  +image: null
  +parent: null
  +root: null
  +body: "I’ve been happy with Sync for close to a decade now."
  +lang: "en"
  +isAdult: false
  +favouriteCount: 0
  +score: 0
  +lastActive: DateTime @1689479175 {#4216
    date: 2023-07-16 05:46:15.0 +02:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +tags: null
  +mentions: [
    "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
  ]
  +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4222 …}
  +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4224 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4226 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4228 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4230 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4232 …}
  -id: 19289
  -bodyTs: "'close':8 'decad':11 'happi':4 'sync':6 've':2"
  +ranking: 0
  +commentCount: 0
  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://sh.itjust.works/comment/1107243"
  +editedAt: null
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689479175 {#4217
    date: 2023-07-16 05:46:15.0 +02:00
  }
}
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
31 DENIED edit 
App\Entity\EntryComment {#4221
  +user: App\Entity\User {#4234 …}
  +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419
    +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#1970 …}
    +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265
      +icon: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#246 …}
      +name: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +title: "asklemmy"
      +description: """
        A loosely moderated place to ask open-ended questions\n
        \n
        **[Search asklemmy](https://lemmy.ml/search?q=&type=Posts&listingType=All&communityId=8&page=1&sort=TopAll) 🔍**\n
        \n
        If your post meets the following criteria, it’s welcome here!\n
        \n
        1. Open-ended\n
        2. Not offensive: at this point, we do not have the bandwidth to moderate overtly political discussions\n
        3. **Not regarding using or support for Lemmy**: [context](https://lemmy.ml/post/1223478), find help in the list of support alternatives below\n
        4. Not ad nauseam inducing: please make sure it is a question that would be new to most members\n
        5. [An actual topic of discussion](https://lemmy.ml/post/1239589)\n
        \n
        Support alternatives:\n
        \n
        - [!lemmy_support@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/lemmy_support)\n
        - [!nostupidlemmyquestions@lemmy.dbzer0.com](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/nostupidlemmyquestions)\n
        - [!selfhosted@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/selfhosted)\n
        \n
        ~Icon~ ~by~ ~@Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de~
        """
      +rules: null
      +subscriptionsCount: 0
      +entryCount: 580
      +entryCommentCount: 15558
      +postCount: 7
      +postCommentCount: 129
      +isAdult: false
      +customCss: null
      +lastActive: DateTime @1689748304 {#275
        date: 2023-07-19 08:31:44.0 +02:00
      }
      +markedForDeletionAt: null
      +tags: null
      +moderators: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#237 …}
      +ownershipRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#233 …}
      +moderatorRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#222 …}
      +entries: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#180 …}
      +posts: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#138 …}
      +subscriptions: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#200 …}
      +bans: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#117 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#103 …}
      +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#81 …}
      +logs: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#71 …}
      +awards: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1346 …}
      +categories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1823 …}
      -id: 9
      +apId: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +apProfileId: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apPublicUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apFollowersUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy/followers"
      +apInboxUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/inbox"
      +apDomain: "lemmy.ml"
      +apPreferredUsername: "asklemmy"
      +apDiscoverable: true
      +apManuallyApprovesFollowers: null
      +privateKey: null
      +publicKey: null
      +apFetchedAt: DateTime @1689747596 {#269
        date: 2023-07-19 08:19:56.0 +02:00
      }
      +apDeletedAt: null
      +apTimeoutAt: null
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1686889707 {#271
        date: 2023-06-16 06:28:27.0 +02:00
      }
    }
    +image: null
    +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#1915 …}
    +slug: "Best-options-for-Non-Google-cloud-storage-as-of-2022"
    +title: "Best options for Non-Google cloud storage as of 2022?"
    +url: null
    +body: """
      What are Lemmy’s feelings about the best cloud storage options these days, if you really want to break into the 1-2TB range? I’m not there yet, probably not even halfway there, but I like the peace of mind of potentially having the space if I need it. And I think subscribing to something in the Netflix price range is maybe something I’m ready for.\n
      \n
      My thoughts so far:\n
      \n
      [pcloud](https://www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime) - Intriguing because you can pay for a “lifetime” plan of 2TB of storage. But it’s $350, which is a lot, and I don’t know that I love the interface or usability, and I don’t know if I trust them.\n
      \n
      [iDrive](https://www.idrive.com/pricing) - Super affordable. 5tb for “just” $80/year. It might be the best deal, but nothing about their identity suggests to me that they are “good guys.” By which I mean, I’m not sure I trust them to make long-term promises for any specific plan.\n
      \n
      [Mega](https://mega.io/pro) - I like its very anti-google, very encrypted attitude. Born from the ashes of megaupload, they built encryption and zero knowledge into it. I LOVE that you can connect to it through the android app Solid Explorer and therefore don’t even need the mega app if you don’t want it. I hear bad things about it though? And it’s pretty expensive at $115 per year for 2TB.\n
      \n
      My personal thoughts/reasoning/caveats:\n
      \n
      **Homebrew stuff**: I don’t *quite* trust myself to use a homebrew setup like Nextcloud or Syncthing correctly. There’s too much in terms of labor, upkeep, catastrophic single points of failure where you could lose everything. I feel like I’m 70% of the way to being smart enough to do this.\n
      \n
      **Avoiding the Bad Guys and the Free Stuff**: I’ve tried the free version of just about everything, from Google to Onedrive to Dropbox to Mediafire to Mega. There’s even an android app that offers 1 free terrabyte?? But I don’t want something from the bad guys where I’m going to be integrated into their closed source death drap: Google, Amazon, Microsoft, Apple, and I don’t want a too-good-to-be-true free service where I’m the product.\n
      \n
      I also would prefer to avoid something from the upstarts who kinda-sorta imitate the bad guys: Dropbox, Mediafire, Box. Because I’m not sure how much I can trust any specific long term promise from them.\n
      \n
      **It sounds like you’re saying nothing is good enough! What exactly do you want!?** Something from good guys, not bad guys. Something like [Standardnotes](https://standardnotes.com/), but for file storage. They emphasize privacy, good governance principles and longevity of their service. Or [Linode](https://www.linode.com/support-experience/), with their independence, sense of mission, love of Linux & free software, all of which tells me they are good guys.\n
      \n
      Probably the correct answer is (1) here’s this magical perfect source I never thought of, or (2) I’m thinking this much about it, I should probably do Nextcloud or syncthing given all the constraints that I’m putting out there.\n
      \n
      Anyway, that’s my thoughts on cloud storage. What are yours?
      """
    +type: "article"
    +lang: "en"
    +isOc: false
    +hasEmbed: false
    +commentCount: 25
    +favouriteCount: 41
    +score: 0
    +isAdult: false
    +sticky: false
    +lastActive: DateTime @1689719793 {#2414
      date: 2023-07-19 00:36:33.0 +02:00
    }
    +ip: null
    +adaAmount: 0
    +tags: null
    +mentions: null
    +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1884 …}
    +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1973 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1959 …}
    +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1927 …}
    +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2442 …}
    +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2440 …}
    +children: []
    -id: 1294
    -titleTs: "'2022':11 'best':1 'cloud':7 'googl':6 'non':5 'non-googl':4 'option':2 'storag':8"
    -bodyTs: "'-2':23 '/),':451 '/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':77 '/pricing)':123 '/pro)':173 '/support-experience/),':471 '1':22,337,497 '115':240 '2':509 '2tb':88,244 '350':94 '5tb':126 '70':290 '80/year':129 'afford':125 'also':387 'amazon':364 'android':208,333 'answer':495 'anti':179 'anti-googl':178 'anyway':534 'app':209,220,334 'appl':366 'ash':187 'attitud':183 'avoid':301,391 'bad':229,303,348,402,444 'best':8,134 'born':184 'box':406 'break':19 'built':191 'catastroph':275 'close':359 'cloud':9,540 'connect':203 'constraint':527 'correct':265,494 'could':282 'day':13 'deal':135 'death':361 'drap':362 'dropbox':324,404 'emphas':457 'encrypt':182,192 'enough':297,433 'even':33,216,331 'everyth':284,318 'exact':435 'expens':238 'explor':211 'failur':279 'far':73 'feel':5,286 'file':454 'free':307,313,338,379,481 'given':524 'go':353 'good':147,375,432,441,459,490 'googl':180,320,363 'govern':460 'guy':148,304,349,403,442,445,491 'halfway':34 'hear':228 'homebrew':248,259 'ident':140 'idriv':120 'imit':400 'independ':474 'integr':356 'interfac':108 'intrigu':78 'kinda':398 'kinda-sorta':397 'know':103,115 'knowledg':195 'labor':273 'lemmi':3 'lifetim':85 'like':38,175,261,287,426,447 'linod':468 'linux':480 'long':163,419 'long-term':162 'longev':463 'lose':283 'lot':98 'love':106,199,478 'm':27,67,154,289,352,383,409,511,530 'magic':501 'make':161 'mayb':64 'mean':152 'mediafir':326,405 'mega':170,219,328 'mega.io':172 'mega.io/pro)':171 'megaupload':189 'microsoft':365 'might':131 'mind':42 'mission':477 'much':269,413,514 'need':50,217 'netflix':60 'never':505 'nextcloud':262,521 'noth':137,430 'offer':336 'onedr':322 'option':11 'pay':82 'pcloud':74 'peac':40 'per':241 'perfect':502 'person':246 'plan':86,169 'point':277 'potenti':44 'prefer':389 'pretti':237 'price':61 'principl':461 'privaci':458 'probabl':31,492,519 'product':385 'promis':165,421 'put':531 'quit':253 'rang':25,62 're':428 'readi':68 'realli':16 'say':429 'sens':475 'servic':380,466 'setup':260 'singl':276 'smart':296 'softwar':482 'solid':210 'someth':57,65,345,392,439,446 'sorta':399 'sound':425 'sourc':360,503 'space':47 'specif':168,418 'standardnot':448 'standardnotes.com':450 'standardnotes.com/),':449 'storag':10,90,455,541 'stuff':249,308 'subscrib':55 'suggest':141 'super':124 'sure':156,411 'syncth':264,523 'tb':24 'tell':486 'term':164,271,420 'terrabyt':339 'therefor':213 'thing':230 'think':54,512 'though':233 'thought':71,506,538 'thoughts/reasoning/caveats':247 'too-good-to-be-tru':373 'tri':311 'true':378 'trust':118,158,254,416 'upkeep':274 'upstart':395 'usabl':110 'use':257 've':310 'version':314 'want':17,225,344,371,438 'way':293 'would':388 'www.idrive.com':122 'www.idrive.com/pricing)':121 'www.linode.com':470 'www.linode.com/support-experience/),':469 'www.pcloud.com':76 'www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':75 'year':242 'yet':30 'zero':194"
    +cross: false
    +upVotes: 0
    +downVotes: 0
    +ranking: 1642260128
    +visibility: "visible             "
    +apId: "https://lemmy.ml/post/149005"
    +editedAt: null
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1642173728 {#1793
      date: 2022-01-14 16:22:08.0 +01:00
    }
  }
  +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
  +image: null
  +parent: null
  +root: null
  +body: "I’ve been happy with Sync for close to a decade now."
  +lang: "en"
  +isAdult: false
  +favouriteCount: 0
  +score: 0
  +lastActive: DateTime @1689479175 {#4216
    date: 2023-07-16 05:46:15.0 +02:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +tags: null
  +mentions: [
    "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
  ]
  +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4222 …}
  +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4224 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4226 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4228 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4230 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4232 …}
  -id: 19289
  -bodyTs: "'close':8 'decad':11 'happi':4 'sync':6 've':2"
  +ranking: 0
  +commentCount: 0
  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://sh.itjust.works/comment/1107243"
  +editedAt: null
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689479175 {#4217
    date: 2023-07-16 05:46:15.0 +02:00
  }
}
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
32 DENIED moderate 
App\Entity\EntryComment {#4221
  +user: App\Entity\User {#4234 …}
  +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419
    +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#1970 …}
    +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265
      +icon: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#246 …}
      +name: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +title: "asklemmy"
      +description: """
        A loosely moderated place to ask open-ended questions\n
        \n
        **[Search asklemmy](https://lemmy.ml/search?q=&type=Posts&listingType=All&communityId=8&page=1&sort=TopAll) 🔍**\n
        \n
        If your post meets the following criteria, it’s welcome here!\n
        \n
        1. Open-ended\n
        2. Not offensive: at this point, we do not have the bandwidth to moderate overtly political discussions\n
        3. **Not regarding using or support for Lemmy**: [context](https://lemmy.ml/post/1223478), find help in the list of support alternatives below\n
        4. Not ad nauseam inducing: please make sure it is a question that would be new to most members\n
        5. [An actual topic of discussion](https://lemmy.ml/post/1239589)\n
        \n
        Support alternatives:\n
        \n
        - [!lemmy_support@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/lemmy_support)\n
        - [!nostupidlemmyquestions@lemmy.dbzer0.com](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/nostupidlemmyquestions)\n
        - [!selfhosted@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/selfhosted)\n
        \n
        ~Icon~ ~by~ ~@Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de~
        """
      +rules: null
      +subscriptionsCount: 0
      +entryCount: 580
      +entryCommentCount: 15558
      +postCount: 7
      +postCommentCount: 129
      +isAdult: false
      +customCss: null
      +lastActive: DateTime @1689748304 {#275
        date: 2023-07-19 08:31:44.0 +02:00
      }
      +markedForDeletionAt: null
      +tags: null
      +moderators: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#237 …}
      +ownershipRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#233 …}
      +moderatorRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#222 …}
      +entries: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#180 …}
      +posts: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#138 …}
      +subscriptions: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#200 …}
      +bans: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#117 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#103 …}
      +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#81 …}
      +logs: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#71 …}
      +awards: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1346 …}
      +categories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1823 …}
      -id: 9
      +apId: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +apProfileId: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apPublicUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apFollowersUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy/followers"
      +apInboxUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/inbox"
      +apDomain: "lemmy.ml"
      +apPreferredUsername: "asklemmy"
      +apDiscoverable: true
      +apManuallyApprovesFollowers: null
      +privateKey: null
      +publicKey: null
      +apFetchedAt: DateTime @1689747596 {#269
        date: 2023-07-19 08:19:56.0 +02:00
      }
      +apDeletedAt: null
      +apTimeoutAt: null
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1686889707 {#271
        date: 2023-06-16 06:28:27.0 +02:00
      }
    }
    +image: null
    +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#1915 …}
    +slug: "Best-options-for-Non-Google-cloud-storage-as-of-2022"
    +title: "Best options for Non-Google cloud storage as of 2022?"
    +url: null
    +body: """
      What are Lemmy’s feelings about the best cloud storage options these days, if you really want to break into the 1-2TB range? I’m not there yet, probably not even halfway there, but I like the peace of mind of potentially having the space if I need it. And I think subscribing to something in the Netflix price range is maybe something I’m ready for.\n
      \n
      My thoughts so far:\n
      \n
      [pcloud](https://www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime) - Intriguing because you can pay for a “lifetime” plan of 2TB of storage. But it’s $350, which is a lot, and I don’t know that I love the interface or usability, and I don’t know if I trust them.\n
      \n
      [iDrive](https://www.idrive.com/pricing) - Super affordable. 5tb for “just” $80/year. It might be the best deal, but nothing about their identity suggests to me that they are “good guys.” By which I mean, I’m not sure I trust them to make long-term promises for any specific plan.\n
      \n
      [Mega](https://mega.io/pro) - I like its very anti-google, very encrypted attitude. Born from the ashes of megaupload, they built encryption and zero knowledge into it. I LOVE that you can connect to it through the android app Solid Explorer and therefore don’t even need the mega app if you don’t want it. I hear bad things about it though? And it’s pretty expensive at $115 per year for 2TB.\n
      \n
      My personal thoughts/reasoning/caveats:\n
      \n
      **Homebrew stuff**: I don’t *quite* trust myself to use a homebrew setup like Nextcloud or Syncthing correctly. There’s too much in terms of labor, upkeep, catastrophic single points of failure where you could lose everything. I feel like I’m 70% of the way to being smart enough to do this.\n
      \n
      **Avoiding the Bad Guys and the Free Stuff**: I’ve tried the free version of just about everything, from Google to Onedrive to Dropbox to Mediafire to Mega. There’s even an android app that offers 1 free terrabyte?? But I don’t want something from the bad guys where I’m going to be integrated into their closed source death drap: Google, Amazon, Microsoft, Apple, and I don’t want a too-good-to-be-true free service where I’m the product.\n
      \n
      I also would prefer to avoid something from the upstarts who kinda-sorta imitate the bad guys: Dropbox, Mediafire, Box. Because I’m not sure how much I can trust any specific long term promise from them.\n
      \n
      **It sounds like you’re saying nothing is good enough! What exactly do you want!?** Something from good guys, not bad guys. Something like [Standardnotes](https://standardnotes.com/), but for file storage. They emphasize privacy, good governance principles and longevity of their service. Or [Linode](https://www.linode.com/support-experience/), with their independence, sense of mission, love of Linux & free software, all of which tells me they are good guys.\n
      \n
      Probably the correct answer is (1) here’s this magical perfect source I never thought of, or (2) I’m thinking this much about it, I should probably do Nextcloud or syncthing given all the constraints that I’m putting out there.\n
      \n
      Anyway, that’s my thoughts on cloud storage. What are yours?
      """
    +type: "article"
    +lang: "en"
    +isOc: false
    +hasEmbed: false
    +commentCount: 25
    +favouriteCount: 41
    +score: 0
    +isAdult: false
    +sticky: false
    +lastActive: DateTime @1689719793 {#2414
      date: 2023-07-19 00:36:33.0 +02:00
    }
    +ip: null
    +adaAmount: 0
    +tags: null
    +mentions: null
    +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1884 …}
    +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1973 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1959 …}
    +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1927 …}
    +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2442 …}
    +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2440 …}
    +children: []
    -id: 1294
    -titleTs: "'2022':11 'best':1 'cloud':7 'googl':6 'non':5 'non-googl':4 'option':2 'storag':8"
    -bodyTs: "'-2':23 '/),':451 '/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':77 '/pricing)':123 '/pro)':173 '/support-experience/),':471 '1':22,337,497 '115':240 '2':509 '2tb':88,244 '350':94 '5tb':126 '70':290 '80/year':129 'afford':125 'also':387 'amazon':364 'android':208,333 'answer':495 'anti':179 'anti-googl':178 'anyway':534 'app':209,220,334 'appl':366 'ash':187 'attitud':183 'avoid':301,391 'bad':229,303,348,402,444 'best':8,134 'born':184 'box':406 'break':19 'built':191 'catastroph':275 'close':359 'cloud':9,540 'connect':203 'constraint':527 'correct':265,494 'could':282 'day':13 'deal':135 'death':361 'drap':362 'dropbox':324,404 'emphas':457 'encrypt':182,192 'enough':297,433 'even':33,216,331 'everyth':284,318 'exact':435 'expens':238 'explor':211 'failur':279 'far':73 'feel':5,286 'file':454 'free':307,313,338,379,481 'given':524 'go':353 'good':147,375,432,441,459,490 'googl':180,320,363 'govern':460 'guy':148,304,349,403,442,445,491 'halfway':34 'hear':228 'homebrew':248,259 'ident':140 'idriv':120 'imit':400 'independ':474 'integr':356 'interfac':108 'intrigu':78 'kinda':398 'kinda-sorta':397 'know':103,115 'knowledg':195 'labor':273 'lemmi':3 'lifetim':85 'like':38,175,261,287,426,447 'linod':468 'linux':480 'long':163,419 'long-term':162 'longev':463 'lose':283 'lot':98 'love':106,199,478 'm':27,67,154,289,352,383,409,511,530 'magic':501 'make':161 'mayb':64 'mean':152 'mediafir':326,405 'mega':170,219,328 'mega.io':172 'mega.io/pro)':171 'megaupload':189 'microsoft':365 'might':131 'mind':42 'mission':477 'much':269,413,514 'need':50,217 'netflix':60 'never':505 'nextcloud':262,521 'noth':137,430 'offer':336 'onedr':322 'option':11 'pay':82 'pcloud':74 'peac':40 'per':241 'perfect':502 'person':246 'plan':86,169 'point':277 'potenti':44 'prefer':389 'pretti':237 'price':61 'principl':461 'privaci':458 'probabl':31,492,519 'product':385 'promis':165,421 'put':531 'quit':253 'rang':25,62 're':428 'readi':68 'realli':16 'say':429 'sens':475 'servic':380,466 'setup':260 'singl':276 'smart':296 'softwar':482 'solid':210 'someth':57,65,345,392,439,446 'sorta':399 'sound':425 'sourc':360,503 'space':47 'specif':168,418 'standardnot':448 'standardnotes.com':450 'standardnotes.com/),':449 'storag':10,90,455,541 'stuff':249,308 'subscrib':55 'suggest':141 'super':124 'sure':156,411 'syncth':264,523 'tb':24 'tell':486 'term':164,271,420 'terrabyt':339 'therefor':213 'thing':230 'think':54,512 'though':233 'thought':71,506,538 'thoughts/reasoning/caveats':247 'too-good-to-be-tru':373 'tri':311 'true':378 'trust':118,158,254,416 'upkeep':274 'upstart':395 'usabl':110 'use':257 've':310 'version':314 'want':17,225,344,371,438 'way':293 'would':388 'www.idrive.com':122 'www.idrive.com/pricing)':121 'www.linode.com':470 'www.linode.com/support-experience/),':469 'www.pcloud.com':76 'www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':75 'year':242 'yet':30 'zero':194"
    +cross: false
    +upVotes: 0
    +downVotes: 0
    +ranking: 1642260128
    +visibility: "visible             "
    +apId: "https://lemmy.ml/post/149005"
    +editedAt: null
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1642173728 {#1793
      date: 2022-01-14 16:22:08.0 +01:00
    }
  }
  +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
  +image: null
  +parent: null
  +root: null
  +body: "I’ve been happy with Sync for close to a decade now."
  +lang: "en"
  +isAdult: false
  +favouriteCount: 0
  +score: 0
  +lastActive: DateTime @1689479175 {#4216
    date: 2023-07-16 05:46:15.0 +02:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +tags: null
  +mentions: [
    "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
  ]
  +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4222 …}
  +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4224 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4226 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4228 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4230 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4232 …}
  -id: 19289
  -bodyTs: "'close':8 'decad':11 'happi':4 'sync':6 've':2"
  +ranking: 0
  +commentCount: 0
  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://sh.itjust.works/comment/1107243"
  +editedAt: null
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689479175 {#4217
    date: 2023-07-16 05:46:15.0 +02:00
  }
}
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
33 DENIED ROLE_USER 
null
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
34 DENIED moderate 
App\Entity\EntryComment {#4295
  +user: App\Entity\User {#4308 …}
  +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419
    +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#1970 …}
    +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265
      +icon: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#246 …}
      +name: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +title: "asklemmy"
      +description: """
        A loosely moderated place to ask open-ended questions\n
        \n
        **[Search asklemmy](https://lemmy.ml/search?q=&type=Posts&listingType=All&communityId=8&page=1&sort=TopAll) 🔍**\n
        \n
        If your post meets the following criteria, it’s welcome here!\n
        \n
        1. Open-ended\n
        2. Not offensive: at this point, we do not have the bandwidth to moderate overtly political discussions\n
        3. **Not regarding using or support for Lemmy**: [context](https://lemmy.ml/post/1223478), find help in the list of support alternatives below\n
        4. Not ad nauseam inducing: please make sure it is a question that would be new to most members\n
        5. [An actual topic of discussion](https://lemmy.ml/post/1239589)\n
        \n
        Support alternatives:\n
        \n
        - [!lemmy_support@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/lemmy_support)\n
        - [!nostupidlemmyquestions@lemmy.dbzer0.com](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/nostupidlemmyquestions)\n
        - [!selfhosted@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/selfhosted)\n
        \n
        ~Icon~ ~by~ ~@Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de~
        """
      +rules: null
      +subscriptionsCount: 0
      +entryCount: 580
      +entryCommentCount: 15558
      +postCount: 7
      +postCommentCount: 129
      +isAdult: false
      +customCss: null
      +lastActive: DateTime @1689748304 {#275
        date: 2023-07-19 08:31:44.0 +02:00
      }
      +markedForDeletionAt: null
      +tags: null
      +moderators: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#237 …}
      +ownershipRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#233 …}
      +moderatorRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#222 …}
      +entries: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#180 …}
      +posts: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#138 …}
      +subscriptions: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#200 …}
      +bans: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#117 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#103 …}
      +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#81 …}
      +logs: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#71 …}
      +awards: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1346 …}
      +categories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1823 …}
      -id: 9
      +apId: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +apProfileId: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apPublicUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apFollowersUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy/followers"
      +apInboxUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/inbox"
      +apDomain: "lemmy.ml"
      +apPreferredUsername: "asklemmy"
      +apDiscoverable: true
      +apManuallyApprovesFollowers: null
      +privateKey: null
      +publicKey: null
      +apFetchedAt: DateTime @1689747596 {#269
        date: 2023-07-19 08:19:56.0 +02:00
      }
      +apDeletedAt: null
      +apTimeoutAt: null
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1686889707 {#271
        date: 2023-06-16 06:28:27.0 +02:00
      }
    }
    +image: null
    +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#1915 …}
    +slug: "Best-options-for-Non-Google-cloud-storage-as-of-2022"
    +title: "Best options for Non-Google cloud storage as of 2022?"
    +url: null
    +body: """
      What are Lemmy’s feelings about the best cloud storage options these days, if you really want to break into the 1-2TB range? I’m not there yet, probably not even halfway there, but I like the peace of mind of potentially having the space if I need it. And I think subscribing to something in the Netflix price range is maybe something I’m ready for.\n
      \n
      My thoughts so far:\n
      \n
      [pcloud](https://www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime) - Intriguing because you can pay for a “lifetime” plan of 2TB of storage. But it’s $350, which is a lot, and I don’t know that I love the interface or usability, and I don’t know if I trust them.\n
      \n
      [iDrive](https://www.idrive.com/pricing) - Super affordable. 5tb for “just” $80/year. It might be the best deal, but nothing about their identity suggests to me that they are “good guys.” By which I mean, I’m not sure I trust them to make long-term promises for any specific plan.\n
      \n
      [Mega](https://mega.io/pro) - I like its very anti-google, very encrypted attitude. Born from the ashes of megaupload, they built encryption and zero knowledge into it. I LOVE that you can connect to it through the android app Solid Explorer and therefore don’t even need the mega app if you don’t want it. I hear bad things about it though? And it’s pretty expensive at $115 per year for 2TB.\n
      \n
      My personal thoughts/reasoning/caveats:\n
      \n
      **Homebrew stuff**: I don’t *quite* trust myself to use a homebrew setup like Nextcloud or Syncthing correctly. There’s too much in terms of labor, upkeep, catastrophic single points of failure where you could lose everything. I feel like I’m 70% of the way to being smart enough to do this.\n
      \n
      **Avoiding the Bad Guys and the Free Stuff**: I’ve tried the free version of just about everything, from Google to Onedrive to Dropbox to Mediafire to Mega. There’s even an android app that offers 1 free terrabyte?? But I don’t want something from the bad guys where I’m going to be integrated into their closed source death drap: Google, Amazon, Microsoft, Apple, and I don’t want a too-good-to-be-true free service where I’m the product.\n
      \n
      I also would prefer to avoid something from the upstarts who kinda-sorta imitate the bad guys: Dropbox, Mediafire, Box. Because I’m not sure how much I can trust any specific long term promise from them.\n
      \n
      **It sounds like you’re saying nothing is good enough! What exactly do you want!?** Something from good guys, not bad guys. Something like [Standardnotes](https://standardnotes.com/), but for file storage. They emphasize privacy, good governance principles and longevity of their service. Or [Linode](https://www.linode.com/support-experience/), with their independence, sense of mission, love of Linux & free software, all of which tells me they are good guys.\n
      \n
      Probably the correct answer is (1) here’s this magical perfect source I never thought of, or (2) I’m thinking this much about it, I should probably do Nextcloud or syncthing given all the constraints that I’m putting out there.\n
      \n
      Anyway, that’s my thoughts on cloud storage. What are yours?
      """
    +type: "article"
    +lang: "en"
    +isOc: false
    +hasEmbed: false
    +commentCount: 25
    +favouriteCount: 41
    +score: 0
    +isAdult: false
    +sticky: false
    +lastActive: DateTime @1689719793 {#2414
      date: 2023-07-19 00:36:33.0 +02:00
    }
    +ip: null
    +adaAmount: 0
    +tags: null
    +mentions: null
    +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1884 …}
    +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1973 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1959 …}
    +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1927 …}
    +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2442 …}
    +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2440 …}
    +children: []
    -id: 1294
    -titleTs: "'2022':11 'best':1 'cloud':7 'googl':6 'non':5 'non-googl':4 'option':2 'storag':8"
    -bodyTs: "'-2':23 '/),':451 '/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':77 '/pricing)':123 '/pro)':173 '/support-experience/),':471 '1':22,337,497 '115':240 '2':509 '2tb':88,244 '350':94 '5tb':126 '70':290 '80/year':129 'afford':125 'also':387 'amazon':364 'android':208,333 'answer':495 'anti':179 'anti-googl':178 'anyway':534 'app':209,220,334 'appl':366 'ash':187 'attitud':183 'avoid':301,391 'bad':229,303,348,402,444 'best':8,134 'born':184 'box':406 'break':19 'built':191 'catastroph':275 'close':359 'cloud':9,540 'connect':203 'constraint':527 'correct':265,494 'could':282 'day':13 'deal':135 'death':361 'drap':362 'dropbox':324,404 'emphas':457 'encrypt':182,192 'enough':297,433 'even':33,216,331 'everyth':284,318 'exact':435 'expens':238 'explor':211 'failur':279 'far':73 'feel':5,286 'file':454 'free':307,313,338,379,481 'given':524 'go':353 'good':147,375,432,441,459,490 'googl':180,320,363 'govern':460 'guy':148,304,349,403,442,445,491 'halfway':34 'hear':228 'homebrew':248,259 'ident':140 'idriv':120 'imit':400 'independ':474 'integr':356 'interfac':108 'intrigu':78 'kinda':398 'kinda-sorta':397 'know':103,115 'knowledg':195 'labor':273 'lemmi':3 'lifetim':85 'like':38,175,261,287,426,447 'linod':468 'linux':480 'long':163,419 'long-term':162 'longev':463 'lose':283 'lot':98 'love':106,199,478 'm':27,67,154,289,352,383,409,511,530 'magic':501 'make':161 'mayb':64 'mean':152 'mediafir':326,405 'mega':170,219,328 'mega.io':172 'mega.io/pro)':171 'megaupload':189 'microsoft':365 'might':131 'mind':42 'mission':477 'much':269,413,514 'need':50,217 'netflix':60 'never':505 'nextcloud':262,521 'noth':137,430 'offer':336 'onedr':322 'option':11 'pay':82 'pcloud':74 'peac':40 'per':241 'perfect':502 'person':246 'plan':86,169 'point':277 'potenti':44 'prefer':389 'pretti':237 'price':61 'principl':461 'privaci':458 'probabl':31,492,519 'product':385 'promis':165,421 'put':531 'quit':253 'rang':25,62 're':428 'readi':68 'realli':16 'say':429 'sens':475 'servic':380,466 'setup':260 'singl':276 'smart':296 'softwar':482 'solid':210 'someth':57,65,345,392,439,446 'sorta':399 'sound':425 'sourc':360,503 'space':47 'specif':168,418 'standardnot':448 'standardnotes.com':450 'standardnotes.com/),':449 'storag':10,90,455,541 'stuff':249,308 'subscrib':55 'suggest':141 'super':124 'sure':156,411 'syncth':264,523 'tb':24 'tell':486 'term':164,271,420 'terrabyt':339 'therefor':213 'thing':230 'think':54,512 'though':233 'thought':71,506,538 'thoughts/reasoning/caveats':247 'too-good-to-be-tru':373 'tri':311 'true':378 'trust':118,158,254,416 'upkeep':274 'upstart':395 'usabl':110 'use':257 've':310 'version':314 'want':17,225,344,371,438 'way':293 'would':388 'www.idrive.com':122 'www.idrive.com/pricing)':121 'www.linode.com':470 'www.linode.com/support-experience/),':469 'www.pcloud.com':76 'www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':75 'year':242 'yet':30 'zero':194"
    +cross: false
    +upVotes: 0
    +downVotes: 0
    +ranking: 1642260128
    +visibility: "visible             "
    +apId: "https://lemmy.ml/post/149005"
    +editedAt: null
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1642173728 {#1793
      date: 2022-01-14 16:22:08.0 +01:00
    }
  }
  +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
  +image: null
  +parent: null
  +root: null
  +body: """
    This is perhaps for a narrower audience, but if you run a consumer version of Windows (not Server), you can get Backblaze unlimited storage for $70/year per device.\n
    \n
    They support encryption with a key you provide in the client, which is super convenient. Restoring individual files is pretty straightforward, but an entire drive was a bit of work last time I had to do it. For the price, it’s a nice piece peace of mind for 10TB+ of versioned storage.
    """
  +lang: "en"
  +isAdult: false
  +favouriteCount: 3
  +score: 0
  +lastActive: DateTime @1689702815 {#4289
    date: 2023-07-18 19:53:35.0 +02:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +tags: null
  +mentions: [
    "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
  ]
  +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4296 …}
  +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4298 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4300 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4302 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4304 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4306 …}
  -id: 19234
  -bodyTs: "'10tb':78 '70/year':26 'audienc':7 'backblaz':22 'bit':56 'client':39 'consum':13 'conveni':43 'devic':28 'drive':53 'encrypt':31 'entir':52 'file':46 'get':21 'individu':45 'key':34 'last':59 'mind':76 'narrow':6 'nice':72 'peac':74 'per':27 'perhap':3 'piec':73 'pretti':48 'price':68 'provid':36 'restor':44 'run':11 'server':18 'storag':24,81 'straightforward':49 'super':42 'support':30 'time':60 'unlimit':23 'version':14,80 'window':16 'work':58"
  +ranking: 0
  +commentCount: 0
  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://lemmy.sdf.org/comment/1069017"
  +editedAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689476746 {#4290
    date: 2023-07-16 05:05:46.0 +02:00
  }
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689474750 {#4291
    date: 2023-07-16 04:32:30.0 +02:00
  }
}
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
35 DENIED edit 
App\Entity\EntryComment {#4295
  +user: App\Entity\User {#4308 …}
  +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419
    +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#1970 …}
    +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265
      +icon: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#246 …}
      +name: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +title: "asklemmy"
      +description: """
        A loosely moderated place to ask open-ended questions\n
        \n
        **[Search asklemmy](https://lemmy.ml/search?q=&type=Posts&listingType=All&communityId=8&page=1&sort=TopAll) 🔍**\n
        \n
        If your post meets the following criteria, it’s welcome here!\n
        \n
        1. Open-ended\n
        2. Not offensive: at this point, we do not have the bandwidth to moderate overtly political discussions\n
        3. **Not regarding using or support for Lemmy**: [context](https://lemmy.ml/post/1223478), find help in the list of support alternatives below\n
        4. Not ad nauseam inducing: please make sure it is a question that would be new to most members\n
        5. [An actual topic of discussion](https://lemmy.ml/post/1239589)\n
        \n
        Support alternatives:\n
        \n
        - [!lemmy_support@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/lemmy_support)\n
        - [!nostupidlemmyquestions@lemmy.dbzer0.com](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/nostupidlemmyquestions)\n
        - [!selfhosted@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/selfhosted)\n
        \n
        ~Icon~ ~by~ ~@Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de~
        """
      +rules: null
      +subscriptionsCount: 0
      +entryCount: 580
      +entryCommentCount: 15558
      +postCount: 7
      +postCommentCount: 129
      +isAdult: false
      +customCss: null
      +lastActive: DateTime @1689748304 {#275
        date: 2023-07-19 08:31:44.0 +02:00
      }
      +markedForDeletionAt: null
      +tags: null
      +moderators: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#237 …}
      +ownershipRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#233 …}
      +moderatorRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#222 …}
      +entries: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#180 …}
      +posts: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#138 …}
      +subscriptions: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#200 …}
      +bans: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#117 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#103 …}
      +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#81 …}
      +logs: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#71 …}
      +awards: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1346 …}
      +categories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1823 …}
      -id: 9
      +apId: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +apProfileId: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apPublicUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apFollowersUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy/followers"
      +apInboxUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/inbox"
      +apDomain: "lemmy.ml"
      +apPreferredUsername: "asklemmy"
      +apDiscoverable: true
      +apManuallyApprovesFollowers: null
      +privateKey: null
      +publicKey: null
      +apFetchedAt: DateTime @1689747596 {#269
        date: 2023-07-19 08:19:56.0 +02:00
      }
      +apDeletedAt: null
      +apTimeoutAt: null
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1686889707 {#271
        date: 2023-06-16 06:28:27.0 +02:00
      }
    }
    +image: null
    +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#1915 …}
    +slug: "Best-options-for-Non-Google-cloud-storage-as-of-2022"
    +title: "Best options for Non-Google cloud storage as of 2022?"
    +url: null
    +body: """
      What are Lemmy’s feelings about the best cloud storage options these days, if you really want to break into the 1-2TB range? I’m not there yet, probably not even halfway there, but I like the peace of mind of potentially having the space if I need it. And I think subscribing to something in the Netflix price range is maybe something I’m ready for.\n
      \n
      My thoughts so far:\n
      \n
      [pcloud](https://www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime) - Intriguing because you can pay for a “lifetime” plan of 2TB of storage. But it’s $350, which is a lot, and I don’t know that I love the interface or usability, and I don’t know if I trust them.\n
      \n
      [iDrive](https://www.idrive.com/pricing) - Super affordable. 5tb for “just” $80/year. It might be the best deal, but nothing about their identity suggests to me that they are “good guys.” By which I mean, I’m not sure I trust them to make long-term promises for any specific plan.\n
      \n
      [Mega](https://mega.io/pro) - I like its very anti-google, very encrypted attitude. Born from the ashes of megaupload, they built encryption and zero knowledge into it. I LOVE that you can connect to it through the android app Solid Explorer and therefore don’t even need the mega app if you don’t want it. I hear bad things about it though? And it’s pretty expensive at $115 per year for 2TB.\n
      \n
      My personal thoughts/reasoning/caveats:\n
      \n
      **Homebrew stuff**: I don’t *quite* trust myself to use a homebrew setup like Nextcloud or Syncthing correctly. There’s too much in terms of labor, upkeep, catastrophic single points of failure where you could lose everything. I feel like I’m 70% of the way to being smart enough to do this.\n
      \n
      **Avoiding the Bad Guys and the Free Stuff**: I’ve tried the free version of just about everything, from Google to Onedrive to Dropbox to Mediafire to Mega. There’s even an android app that offers 1 free terrabyte?? But I don’t want something from the bad guys where I’m going to be integrated into their closed source death drap: Google, Amazon, Microsoft, Apple, and I don’t want a too-good-to-be-true free service where I’m the product.\n
      \n
      I also would prefer to avoid something from the upstarts who kinda-sorta imitate the bad guys: Dropbox, Mediafire, Box. Because I’m not sure how much I can trust any specific long term promise from them.\n
      \n
      **It sounds like you’re saying nothing is good enough! What exactly do you want!?** Something from good guys, not bad guys. Something like [Standardnotes](https://standardnotes.com/), but for file storage. They emphasize privacy, good governance principles and longevity of their service. Or [Linode](https://www.linode.com/support-experience/), with their independence, sense of mission, love of Linux & free software, all of which tells me they are good guys.\n
      \n
      Probably the correct answer is (1) here’s this magical perfect source I never thought of, or (2) I’m thinking this much about it, I should probably do Nextcloud or syncthing given all the constraints that I’m putting out there.\n
      \n
      Anyway, that’s my thoughts on cloud storage. What are yours?
      """
    +type: "article"
    +lang: "en"
    +isOc: false
    +hasEmbed: false
    +commentCount: 25
    +favouriteCount: 41
    +score: 0
    +isAdult: false
    +sticky: false
    +lastActive: DateTime @1689719793 {#2414
      date: 2023-07-19 00:36:33.0 +02:00
    }
    +ip: null
    +adaAmount: 0
    +tags: null
    +mentions: null
    +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1884 …}
    +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1973 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1959 …}
    +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1927 …}
    +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2442 …}
    +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2440 …}
    +children: []
    -id: 1294
    -titleTs: "'2022':11 'best':1 'cloud':7 'googl':6 'non':5 'non-googl':4 'option':2 'storag':8"
    -bodyTs: "'-2':23 '/),':451 '/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':77 '/pricing)':123 '/pro)':173 '/support-experience/),':471 '1':22,337,497 '115':240 '2':509 '2tb':88,244 '350':94 '5tb':126 '70':290 '80/year':129 'afford':125 'also':387 'amazon':364 'android':208,333 'answer':495 'anti':179 'anti-googl':178 'anyway':534 'app':209,220,334 'appl':366 'ash':187 'attitud':183 'avoid':301,391 'bad':229,303,348,402,444 'best':8,134 'born':184 'box':406 'break':19 'built':191 'catastroph':275 'close':359 'cloud':9,540 'connect':203 'constraint':527 'correct':265,494 'could':282 'day':13 'deal':135 'death':361 'drap':362 'dropbox':324,404 'emphas':457 'encrypt':182,192 'enough':297,433 'even':33,216,331 'everyth':284,318 'exact':435 'expens':238 'explor':211 'failur':279 'far':73 'feel':5,286 'file':454 'free':307,313,338,379,481 'given':524 'go':353 'good':147,375,432,441,459,490 'googl':180,320,363 'govern':460 'guy':148,304,349,403,442,445,491 'halfway':34 'hear':228 'homebrew':248,259 'ident':140 'idriv':120 'imit':400 'independ':474 'integr':356 'interfac':108 'intrigu':78 'kinda':398 'kinda-sorta':397 'know':103,115 'knowledg':195 'labor':273 'lemmi':3 'lifetim':85 'like':38,175,261,287,426,447 'linod':468 'linux':480 'long':163,419 'long-term':162 'longev':463 'lose':283 'lot':98 'love':106,199,478 'm':27,67,154,289,352,383,409,511,530 'magic':501 'make':161 'mayb':64 'mean':152 'mediafir':326,405 'mega':170,219,328 'mega.io':172 'mega.io/pro)':171 'megaupload':189 'microsoft':365 'might':131 'mind':42 'mission':477 'much':269,413,514 'need':50,217 'netflix':60 'never':505 'nextcloud':262,521 'noth':137,430 'offer':336 'onedr':322 'option':11 'pay':82 'pcloud':74 'peac':40 'per':241 'perfect':502 'person':246 'plan':86,169 'point':277 'potenti':44 'prefer':389 'pretti':237 'price':61 'principl':461 'privaci':458 'probabl':31,492,519 'product':385 'promis':165,421 'put':531 'quit':253 'rang':25,62 're':428 'readi':68 'realli':16 'say':429 'sens':475 'servic':380,466 'setup':260 'singl':276 'smart':296 'softwar':482 'solid':210 'someth':57,65,345,392,439,446 'sorta':399 'sound':425 'sourc':360,503 'space':47 'specif':168,418 'standardnot':448 'standardnotes.com':450 'standardnotes.com/),':449 'storag':10,90,455,541 'stuff':249,308 'subscrib':55 'suggest':141 'super':124 'sure':156,411 'syncth':264,523 'tb':24 'tell':486 'term':164,271,420 'terrabyt':339 'therefor':213 'thing':230 'think':54,512 'though':233 'thought':71,506,538 'thoughts/reasoning/caveats':247 'too-good-to-be-tru':373 'tri':311 'true':378 'trust':118,158,254,416 'upkeep':274 'upstart':395 'usabl':110 'use':257 've':310 'version':314 'want':17,225,344,371,438 'way':293 'would':388 'www.idrive.com':122 'www.idrive.com/pricing)':121 'www.linode.com':470 'www.linode.com/support-experience/),':469 'www.pcloud.com':76 'www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':75 'year':242 'yet':30 'zero':194"
    +cross: false
    +upVotes: 0
    +downVotes: 0
    +ranking: 1642260128
    +visibility: "visible             "
    +apId: "https://lemmy.ml/post/149005"
    +editedAt: null
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1642173728 {#1793
      date: 2022-01-14 16:22:08.0 +01:00
    }
  }
  +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
  +image: null
  +parent: null
  +root: null
  +body: """
    This is perhaps for a narrower audience, but if you run a consumer version of Windows (not Server), you can get Backblaze unlimited storage for $70/year per device.\n
    \n
    They support encryption with a key you provide in the client, which is super convenient. Restoring individual files is pretty straightforward, but an entire drive was a bit of work last time I had to do it. For the price, it’s a nice piece peace of mind for 10TB+ of versioned storage.
    """
  +lang: "en"
  +isAdult: false
  +favouriteCount: 3
  +score: 0
  +lastActive: DateTime @1689702815 {#4289
    date: 2023-07-18 19:53:35.0 +02:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +tags: null
  +mentions: [
    "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
  ]
  +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4296 …}
  +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4298 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4300 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4302 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4304 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4306 …}
  -id: 19234
  -bodyTs: "'10tb':78 '70/year':26 'audienc':7 'backblaz':22 'bit':56 'client':39 'consum':13 'conveni':43 'devic':28 'drive':53 'encrypt':31 'entir':52 'file':46 'get':21 'individu':45 'key':34 'last':59 'mind':76 'narrow':6 'nice':72 'peac':74 'per':27 'perhap':3 'piec':73 'pretti':48 'price':68 'provid':36 'restor':44 'run':11 'server':18 'storag':24,81 'straightforward':49 'super':42 'support':30 'time':60 'unlimit':23 'version':14,80 'window':16 'work':58"
  +ranking: 0
  +commentCount: 0
  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://lemmy.sdf.org/comment/1069017"
  +editedAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689476746 {#4290
    date: 2023-07-16 05:05:46.0 +02:00
  }
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689474750 {#4291
    date: 2023-07-16 04:32:30.0 +02:00
  }
}
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
36 DENIED moderate 
App\Entity\EntryComment {#4295
  +user: App\Entity\User {#4308 …}
  +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419
    +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#1970 …}
    +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265
      +icon: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#246 …}
      +name: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +title: "asklemmy"
      +description: """
        A loosely moderated place to ask open-ended questions\n
        \n
        **[Search asklemmy](https://lemmy.ml/search?q=&type=Posts&listingType=All&communityId=8&page=1&sort=TopAll) 🔍**\n
        \n
        If your post meets the following criteria, it’s welcome here!\n
        \n
        1. Open-ended\n
        2. Not offensive: at this point, we do not have the bandwidth to moderate overtly political discussions\n
        3. **Not regarding using or support for Lemmy**: [context](https://lemmy.ml/post/1223478), find help in the list of support alternatives below\n
        4. Not ad nauseam inducing: please make sure it is a question that would be new to most members\n
        5. [An actual topic of discussion](https://lemmy.ml/post/1239589)\n
        \n
        Support alternatives:\n
        \n
        - [!lemmy_support@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/lemmy_support)\n
        - [!nostupidlemmyquestions@lemmy.dbzer0.com](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/nostupidlemmyquestions)\n
        - [!selfhosted@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/selfhosted)\n
        \n
        ~Icon~ ~by~ ~@Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de~
        """
      +rules: null
      +subscriptionsCount: 0
      +entryCount: 580
      +entryCommentCount: 15558
      +postCount: 7
      +postCommentCount: 129
      +isAdult: false
      +customCss: null
      +lastActive: DateTime @1689748304 {#275
        date: 2023-07-19 08:31:44.0 +02:00
      }
      +markedForDeletionAt: null
      +tags: null
      +moderators: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#237 …}
      +ownershipRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#233 …}
      +moderatorRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#222 …}
      +entries: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#180 …}
      +posts: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#138 …}
      +subscriptions: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#200 …}
      +bans: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#117 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#103 …}
      +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#81 …}
      +logs: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#71 …}
      +awards: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1346 …}
      +categories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1823 …}
      -id: 9
      +apId: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +apProfileId: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apPublicUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apFollowersUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy/followers"
      +apInboxUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/inbox"
      +apDomain: "lemmy.ml"
      +apPreferredUsername: "asklemmy"
      +apDiscoverable: true
      +apManuallyApprovesFollowers: null
      +privateKey: null
      +publicKey: null
      +apFetchedAt: DateTime @1689747596 {#269
        date: 2023-07-19 08:19:56.0 +02:00
      }
      +apDeletedAt: null
      +apTimeoutAt: null
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1686889707 {#271
        date: 2023-06-16 06:28:27.0 +02:00
      }
    }
    +image: null
    +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#1915 …}
    +slug: "Best-options-for-Non-Google-cloud-storage-as-of-2022"
    +title: "Best options for Non-Google cloud storage as of 2022?"
    +url: null
    +body: """
      What are Lemmy’s feelings about the best cloud storage options these days, if you really want to break into the 1-2TB range? I’m not there yet, probably not even halfway there, but I like the peace of mind of potentially having the space if I need it. And I think subscribing to something in the Netflix price range is maybe something I’m ready for.\n
      \n
      My thoughts so far:\n
      \n
      [pcloud](https://www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime) - Intriguing because you can pay for a “lifetime” plan of 2TB of storage. But it’s $350, which is a lot, and I don’t know that I love the interface or usability, and I don’t know if I trust them.\n
      \n
      [iDrive](https://www.idrive.com/pricing) - Super affordable. 5tb for “just” $80/year. It might be the best deal, but nothing about their identity suggests to me that they are “good guys.” By which I mean, I’m not sure I trust them to make long-term promises for any specific plan.\n
      \n
      [Mega](https://mega.io/pro) - I like its very anti-google, very encrypted attitude. Born from the ashes of megaupload, they built encryption and zero knowledge into it. I LOVE that you can connect to it through the android app Solid Explorer and therefore don’t even need the mega app if you don’t want it. I hear bad things about it though? And it’s pretty expensive at $115 per year for 2TB.\n
      \n
      My personal thoughts/reasoning/caveats:\n
      \n
      **Homebrew stuff**: I don’t *quite* trust myself to use a homebrew setup like Nextcloud or Syncthing correctly. There’s too much in terms of labor, upkeep, catastrophic single points of failure where you could lose everything. I feel like I’m 70% of the way to being smart enough to do this.\n
      \n
      **Avoiding the Bad Guys and the Free Stuff**: I’ve tried the free version of just about everything, from Google to Onedrive to Dropbox to Mediafire to Mega. There’s even an android app that offers 1 free terrabyte?? But I don’t want something from the bad guys where I’m going to be integrated into their closed source death drap: Google, Amazon, Microsoft, Apple, and I don’t want a too-good-to-be-true free service where I’m the product.\n
      \n
      I also would prefer to avoid something from the upstarts who kinda-sorta imitate the bad guys: Dropbox, Mediafire, Box. Because I’m not sure how much I can trust any specific long term promise from them.\n
      \n
      **It sounds like you’re saying nothing is good enough! What exactly do you want!?** Something from good guys, not bad guys. Something like [Standardnotes](https://standardnotes.com/), but for file storage. They emphasize privacy, good governance principles and longevity of their service. Or [Linode](https://www.linode.com/support-experience/), with their independence, sense of mission, love of Linux & free software, all of which tells me they are good guys.\n
      \n
      Probably the correct answer is (1) here’s this magical perfect source I never thought of, or (2) I’m thinking this much about it, I should probably do Nextcloud or syncthing given all the constraints that I’m putting out there.\n
      \n
      Anyway, that’s my thoughts on cloud storage. What are yours?
      """
    +type: "article"
    +lang: "en"
    +isOc: false
    +hasEmbed: false
    +commentCount: 25
    +favouriteCount: 41
    +score: 0
    +isAdult: false
    +sticky: false
    +lastActive: DateTime @1689719793 {#2414
      date: 2023-07-19 00:36:33.0 +02:00
    }
    +ip: null
    +adaAmount: 0
    +tags: null
    +mentions: null
    +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1884 …}
    +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1973 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1959 …}
    +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1927 …}
    +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2442 …}
    +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2440 …}
    +children: []
    -id: 1294
    -titleTs: "'2022':11 'best':1 'cloud':7 'googl':6 'non':5 'non-googl':4 'option':2 'storag':8"
    -bodyTs: "'-2':23 '/),':451 '/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':77 '/pricing)':123 '/pro)':173 '/support-experience/),':471 '1':22,337,497 '115':240 '2':509 '2tb':88,244 '350':94 '5tb':126 '70':290 '80/year':129 'afford':125 'also':387 'amazon':364 'android':208,333 'answer':495 'anti':179 'anti-googl':178 'anyway':534 'app':209,220,334 'appl':366 'ash':187 'attitud':183 'avoid':301,391 'bad':229,303,348,402,444 'best':8,134 'born':184 'box':406 'break':19 'built':191 'catastroph':275 'close':359 'cloud':9,540 'connect':203 'constraint':527 'correct':265,494 'could':282 'day':13 'deal':135 'death':361 'drap':362 'dropbox':324,404 'emphas':457 'encrypt':182,192 'enough':297,433 'even':33,216,331 'everyth':284,318 'exact':435 'expens':238 'explor':211 'failur':279 'far':73 'feel':5,286 'file':454 'free':307,313,338,379,481 'given':524 'go':353 'good':147,375,432,441,459,490 'googl':180,320,363 'govern':460 'guy':148,304,349,403,442,445,491 'halfway':34 'hear':228 'homebrew':248,259 'ident':140 'idriv':120 'imit':400 'independ':474 'integr':356 'interfac':108 'intrigu':78 'kinda':398 'kinda-sorta':397 'know':103,115 'knowledg':195 'labor':273 'lemmi':3 'lifetim':85 'like':38,175,261,287,426,447 'linod':468 'linux':480 'long':163,419 'long-term':162 'longev':463 'lose':283 'lot':98 'love':106,199,478 'm':27,67,154,289,352,383,409,511,530 'magic':501 'make':161 'mayb':64 'mean':152 'mediafir':326,405 'mega':170,219,328 'mega.io':172 'mega.io/pro)':171 'megaupload':189 'microsoft':365 'might':131 'mind':42 'mission':477 'much':269,413,514 'need':50,217 'netflix':60 'never':505 'nextcloud':262,521 'noth':137,430 'offer':336 'onedr':322 'option':11 'pay':82 'pcloud':74 'peac':40 'per':241 'perfect':502 'person':246 'plan':86,169 'point':277 'potenti':44 'prefer':389 'pretti':237 'price':61 'principl':461 'privaci':458 'probabl':31,492,519 'product':385 'promis':165,421 'put':531 'quit':253 'rang':25,62 're':428 'readi':68 'realli':16 'say':429 'sens':475 'servic':380,466 'setup':260 'singl':276 'smart':296 'softwar':482 'solid':210 'someth':57,65,345,392,439,446 'sorta':399 'sound':425 'sourc':360,503 'space':47 'specif':168,418 'standardnot':448 'standardnotes.com':450 'standardnotes.com/),':449 'storag':10,90,455,541 'stuff':249,308 'subscrib':55 'suggest':141 'super':124 'sure':156,411 'syncth':264,523 'tb':24 'tell':486 'term':164,271,420 'terrabyt':339 'therefor':213 'thing':230 'think':54,512 'though':233 'thought':71,506,538 'thoughts/reasoning/caveats':247 'too-good-to-be-tru':373 'tri':311 'true':378 'trust':118,158,254,416 'upkeep':274 'upstart':395 'usabl':110 'use':257 've':310 'version':314 'want':17,225,344,371,438 'way':293 'would':388 'www.idrive.com':122 'www.idrive.com/pricing)':121 'www.linode.com':470 'www.linode.com/support-experience/),':469 'www.pcloud.com':76 'www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':75 'year':242 'yet':30 'zero':194"
    +cross: false
    +upVotes: 0
    +downVotes: 0
    +ranking: 1642260128
    +visibility: "visible             "
    +apId: "https://lemmy.ml/post/149005"
    +editedAt: null
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1642173728 {#1793
      date: 2022-01-14 16:22:08.0 +01:00
    }
  }
  +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
  +image: null
  +parent: null
  +root: null
  +body: """
    This is perhaps for a narrower audience, but if you run a consumer version of Windows (not Server), you can get Backblaze unlimited storage for $70/year per device.\n
    \n
    They support encryption with a key you provide in the client, which is super convenient. Restoring individual files is pretty straightforward, but an entire drive was a bit of work last time I had to do it. For the price, it’s a nice piece peace of mind for 10TB+ of versioned storage.
    """
  +lang: "en"
  +isAdult: false
  +favouriteCount: 3
  +score: 0
  +lastActive: DateTime @1689702815 {#4289
    date: 2023-07-18 19:53:35.0 +02:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +tags: null
  +mentions: [
    "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
  ]
  +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4296 …}
  +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4298 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4300 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4302 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4304 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4306 …}
  -id: 19234
  -bodyTs: "'10tb':78 '70/year':26 'audienc':7 'backblaz':22 'bit':56 'client':39 'consum':13 'conveni':43 'devic':28 'drive':53 'encrypt':31 'entir':52 'file':46 'get':21 'individu':45 'key':34 'last':59 'mind':76 'narrow':6 'nice':72 'peac':74 'per':27 'perhap':3 'piec':73 'pretti':48 'price':68 'provid':36 'restor':44 'run':11 'server':18 'storag':24,81 'straightforward':49 'super':42 'support':30 'time':60 'unlimit':23 'version':14,80 'window':16 'work':58"
  +ranking: 0
  +commentCount: 0
  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://lemmy.sdf.org/comment/1069017"
  +editedAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689476746 {#4290
    date: 2023-07-16 05:05:46.0 +02:00
  }
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689474750 {#4291
    date: 2023-07-16 04:32:30.0 +02:00
  }
}
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
37 DENIED ROLE_USER 
null
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
38 DENIED moderate 
App\Entity\EntryComment {#4975
  +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#4913 …}
  +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419
    +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#1970 …}
    +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265
      +icon: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#246 …}
      +name: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +title: "asklemmy"
      +description: """
        A loosely moderated place to ask open-ended questions\n
        \n
        **[Search asklemmy](https://lemmy.ml/search?q=&type=Posts&listingType=All&communityId=8&page=1&sort=TopAll) 🔍**\n
        \n
        If your post meets the following criteria, it’s welcome here!\n
        \n
        1. Open-ended\n
        2. Not offensive: at this point, we do not have the bandwidth to moderate overtly political discussions\n
        3. **Not regarding using or support for Lemmy**: [context](https://lemmy.ml/post/1223478), find help in the list of support alternatives below\n
        4. Not ad nauseam inducing: please make sure it is a question that would be new to most members\n
        5. [An actual topic of discussion](https://lemmy.ml/post/1239589)\n
        \n
        Support alternatives:\n
        \n
        - [!lemmy_support@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/lemmy_support)\n
        - [!nostupidlemmyquestions@lemmy.dbzer0.com](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/nostupidlemmyquestions)\n
        - [!selfhosted@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/selfhosted)\n
        \n
        ~Icon~ ~by~ ~@Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de~
        """
      +rules: null
      +subscriptionsCount: 0
      +entryCount: 580
      +entryCommentCount: 15558
      +postCount: 7
      +postCommentCount: 129
      +isAdult: false
      +customCss: null
      +lastActive: DateTime @1689748304 {#275
        date: 2023-07-19 08:31:44.0 +02:00
      }
      +markedForDeletionAt: null
      +tags: null
      +moderators: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#237 …}
      +ownershipRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#233 …}
      +moderatorRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#222 …}
      +entries: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#180 …}
      +posts: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#138 …}
      +subscriptions: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#200 …}
      +bans: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#117 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#103 …}
      +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#81 …}
      +logs: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#71 …}
      +awards: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1346 …}
      +categories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1823 …}
      -id: 9
      +apId: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +apProfileId: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apPublicUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apFollowersUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy/followers"
      +apInboxUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/inbox"
      +apDomain: "lemmy.ml"
      +apPreferredUsername: "asklemmy"
      +apDiscoverable: true
      +apManuallyApprovesFollowers: null
      +privateKey: null
      +publicKey: null
      +apFetchedAt: DateTime @1689747596 {#269
        date: 2023-07-19 08:19:56.0 +02:00
      }
      +apDeletedAt: null
      +apTimeoutAt: null
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1686889707 {#271
        date: 2023-06-16 06:28:27.0 +02:00
      }
    }
    +image: null
    +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#1915 …}
    +slug: "Best-options-for-Non-Google-cloud-storage-as-of-2022"
    +title: "Best options for Non-Google cloud storage as of 2022?"
    +url: null
    +body: """
      What are Lemmy’s feelings about the best cloud storage options these days, if you really want to break into the 1-2TB range? I’m not there yet, probably not even halfway there, but I like the peace of mind of potentially having the space if I need it. And I think subscribing to something in the Netflix price range is maybe something I’m ready for.\n
      \n
      My thoughts so far:\n
      \n
      [pcloud](https://www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime) - Intriguing because you can pay for a “lifetime” plan of 2TB of storage. But it’s $350, which is a lot, and I don’t know that I love the interface or usability, and I don’t know if I trust them.\n
      \n
      [iDrive](https://www.idrive.com/pricing) - Super affordable. 5tb for “just” $80/year. It might be the best deal, but nothing about their identity suggests to me that they are “good guys.” By which I mean, I’m not sure I trust them to make long-term promises for any specific plan.\n
      \n
      [Mega](https://mega.io/pro) - I like its very anti-google, very encrypted attitude. Born from the ashes of megaupload, they built encryption and zero knowledge into it. I LOVE that you can connect to it through the android app Solid Explorer and therefore don’t even need the mega app if you don’t want it. I hear bad things about it though? And it’s pretty expensive at $115 per year for 2TB.\n
      \n
      My personal thoughts/reasoning/caveats:\n
      \n
      **Homebrew stuff**: I don’t *quite* trust myself to use a homebrew setup like Nextcloud or Syncthing correctly. There’s too much in terms of labor, upkeep, catastrophic single points of failure where you could lose everything. I feel like I’m 70% of the way to being smart enough to do this.\n
      \n
      **Avoiding the Bad Guys and the Free Stuff**: I’ve tried the free version of just about everything, from Google to Onedrive to Dropbox to Mediafire to Mega. There’s even an android app that offers 1 free terrabyte?? But I don’t want something from the bad guys where I’m going to be integrated into their closed source death drap: Google, Amazon, Microsoft, Apple, and I don’t want a too-good-to-be-true free service where I’m the product.\n
      \n
      I also would prefer to avoid something from the upstarts who kinda-sorta imitate the bad guys: Dropbox, Mediafire, Box. Because I’m not sure how much I can trust any specific long term promise from them.\n
      \n
      **It sounds like you’re saying nothing is good enough! What exactly do you want!?** Something from good guys, not bad guys. Something like [Standardnotes](https://standardnotes.com/), but for file storage. They emphasize privacy, good governance principles and longevity of their service. Or [Linode](https://www.linode.com/support-experience/), with their independence, sense of mission, love of Linux & free software, all of which tells me they are good guys.\n
      \n
      Probably the correct answer is (1) here’s this magical perfect source I never thought of, or (2) I’m thinking this much about it, I should probably do Nextcloud or syncthing given all the constraints that I’m putting out there.\n
      \n
      Anyway, that’s my thoughts on cloud storage. What are yours?
      """
    +type: "article"
    +lang: "en"
    +isOc: false
    +hasEmbed: false
    +commentCount: 25
    +favouriteCount: 41
    +score: 0
    +isAdult: false
    +sticky: false
    +lastActive: DateTime @1689719793 {#2414
      date: 2023-07-19 00:36:33.0 +02:00
    }
    +ip: null
    +adaAmount: 0
    +tags: null
    +mentions: null
    +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1884 …}
    +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1973 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1959 …}
    +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1927 …}
    +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2442 …}
    +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2440 …}
    +children: []
    -id: 1294
    -titleTs: "'2022':11 'best':1 'cloud':7 'googl':6 'non':5 'non-googl':4 'option':2 'storag':8"
    -bodyTs: "'-2':23 '/),':451 '/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':77 '/pricing)':123 '/pro)':173 '/support-experience/),':471 '1':22,337,497 '115':240 '2':509 '2tb':88,244 '350':94 '5tb':126 '70':290 '80/year':129 'afford':125 'also':387 'amazon':364 'android':208,333 'answer':495 'anti':179 'anti-googl':178 'anyway':534 'app':209,220,334 'appl':366 'ash':187 'attitud':183 'avoid':301,391 'bad':229,303,348,402,444 'best':8,134 'born':184 'box':406 'break':19 'built':191 'catastroph':275 'close':359 'cloud':9,540 'connect':203 'constraint':527 'correct':265,494 'could':282 'day':13 'deal':135 'death':361 'drap':362 'dropbox':324,404 'emphas':457 'encrypt':182,192 'enough':297,433 'even':33,216,331 'everyth':284,318 'exact':435 'expens':238 'explor':211 'failur':279 'far':73 'feel':5,286 'file':454 'free':307,313,338,379,481 'given':524 'go':353 'good':147,375,432,441,459,490 'googl':180,320,363 'govern':460 'guy':148,304,349,403,442,445,491 'halfway':34 'hear':228 'homebrew':248,259 'ident':140 'idriv':120 'imit':400 'independ':474 'integr':356 'interfac':108 'intrigu':78 'kinda':398 'kinda-sorta':397 'know':103,115 'knowledg':195 'labor':273 'lemmi':3 'lifetim':85 'like':38,175,261,287,426,447 'linod':468 'linux':480 'long':163,419 'long-term':162 'longev':463 'lose':283 'lot':98 'love':106,199,478 'm':27,67,154,289,352,383,409,511,530 'magic':501 'make':161 'mayb':64 'mean':152 'mediafir':326,405 'mega':170,219,328 'mega.io':172 'mega.io/pro)':171 'megaupload':189 'microsoft':365 'might':131 'mind':42 'mission':477 'much':269,413,514 'need':50,217 'netflix':60 'never':505 'nextcloud':262,521 'noth':137,430 'offer':336 'onedr':322 'option':11 'pay':82 'pcloud':74 'peac':40 'per':241 'perfect':502 'person':246 'plan':86,169 'point':277 'potenti':44 'prefer':389 'pretti':237 'price':61 'principl':461 'privaci':458 'probabl':31,492,519 'product':385 'promis':165,421 'put':531 'quit':253 'rang':25,62 're':428 'readi':68 'realli':16 'say':429 'sens':475 'servic':380,466 'setup':260 'singl':276 'smart':296 'softwar':482 'solid':210 'someth':57,65,345,392,439,446 'sorta':399 'sound':425 'sourc':360,503 'space':47 'specif':168,418 'standardnot':448 'standardnotes.com':450 'standardnotes.com/),':449 'storag':10,90,455,541 'stuff':249,308 'subscrib':55 'suggest':141 'super':124 'sure':156,411 'syncth':264,523 'tb':24 'tell':486 'term':164,271,420 'terrabyt':339 'therefor':213 'thing':230 'think':54,512 'though':233 'thought':71,506,538 'thoughts/reasoning/caveats':247 'too-good-to-be-tru':373 'tri':311 'true':378 'trust':118,158,254,416 'upkeep':274 'upstart':395 'usabl':110 'use':257 've':310 'version':314 'want':17,225,344,371,438 'way':293 'would':388 'www.idrive.com':122 'www.idrive.com/pricing)':121 'www.linode.com':470 'www.linode.com/support-experience/),':469 'www.pcloud.com':76 'www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':75 'year':242 'yet':30 'zero':194"
    +cross: false
    +upVotes: 0
    +downVotes: 0
    +ranking: 1642260128
    +visibility: "visible             "
    +apId: "https://lemmy.ml/post/149005"
    +editedAt: null
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1642173728 {#1793
      date: 2022-01-14 16:22:08.0 +01:00
    }
  }
  +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
  +image: null
  +parent: App\Entity\EntryComment {#4295
    +user: App\Entity\User {#4308 …}
    +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419}
    +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
    +image: null
    +parent: null
    +root: null
    +body: """
      This is perhaps for a narrower audience, but if you run a consumer version of Windows (not Server), you can get Backblaze unlimited storage for $70/year per device.\n
      \n
      They support encryption with a key you provide in the client, which is super convenient. Restoring individual files is pretty straightforward, but an entire drive was a bit of work last time I had to do it. For the price, it’s a nice piece peace of mind for 10TB+ of versioned storage.
      """
    +lang: "en"
    +isAdult: false
    +favouriteCount: 3
    +score: 0
    +lastActive: DateTime @1689702815 {#4289
      date: 2023-07-18 19:53:35.0 +02:00
    }
    +ip: null
    +tags: null
    +mentions: [
      "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
    ]
    +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4296 …}
    +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4298 …}
    +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4300 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4302 …}
    +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4304 …}
    +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4306 …}
    -id: 19234
    -bodyTs: "'10tb':78 '70/year':26 'audienc':7 'backblaz':22 'bit':56 'client':39 'consum':13 'conveni':43 'devic':28 'drive':53 'encrypt':31 'entir':52 'file':46 'get':21 'individu':45 'key':34 'last':59 'mind':76 'narrow':6 'nice':72 'peac':74 'per':27 'perhap':3 'piec':73 'pretti':48 'price':68 'provid':36 'restor':44 'run':11 'server':18 'storag':24,81 'straightforward':49 'super':42 'support':30 'time':60 'unlimit':23 'version':14,80 'window':16 'work':58"
    +ranking: 0
    +commentCount: 0
    +upVotes: 0
    +downVotes: 0
    +visibility: "visible             "
    +apId: "https://lemmy.sdf.org/comment/1069017"
    +editedAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689476746 {#4290
      date: 2023-07-16 05:05:46.0 +02:00
    }
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689474750 {#4291
      date: 2023-07-16 04:32:30.0 +02:00
    }
  }
  +root: App\Entity\EntryComment {#4295}
  +body: """
    That’s what I personally use, but it’s important to note that Backblaze is meant to be a BACKUP, not “cloud storage” like OP asked about. The goal of backup is just to make sure your local files have a copy somewhere. If somebody’s asking for a cloud storage solution, they’re generally looking for an offsite place to store all their files.\n
    \n
    Obviously there’s a lot of grey area, as some cloud storage companies offer “backup” services for some (but not all) of your local files. But in general, these are two different things.
    """
  +lang: "en"
  +isAdult: false
  +favouriteCount: 0
  +score: 0
  +lastActive: DateTime @1689702710 {#4973
    date: 2023-07-18 19:51:50.0 +02:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +tags: null
  +mentions: [
    "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
    "@bmorton@lemmy.sdf.org"
  ]
  +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4976 …}
  +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4978 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4980 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4982 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4984 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4986 …}
  -id: 21976
  -bodyTs: "'area':73 'ask':26,47 'backblaz':14 'backup':20,31,80 'cloud':22,50,76 'compani':78 'copi':42 'differ':97 'file':39,65,90 'general':55,93 'goal':29 'grey':72 'import':10 'like':24 'local':38,89 'look':56 'lot':70 'make':35 'meant':16 'note':12 'obvious':66 'offer':79 'offsit':59 'op':25 'person':5 'place':60 're':54 'servic':81 'solut':52 'somebodi':45 'somewher':43 'storag':23,51,77 'store':62 'sure':36 'thing':98 'two':96 'use':6"
  +ranking: 0
  +commentCount: 0
  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://lemmy.one/comment/1241882"
  +editedAt: null
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689702710 {#4974
    date: 2023-07-18 19:51:50.0 +02:00
  }
}
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
39 DENIED edit 
App\Entity\EntryComment {#4975
  +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#4913 …}
  +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419
    +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#1970 …}
    +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265
      +icon: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#246 …}
      +name: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +title: "asklemmy"
      +description: """
        A loosely moderated place to ask open-ended questions\n
        \n
        **[Search asklemmy](https://lemmy.ml/search?q=&type=Posts&listingType=All&communityId=8&page=1&sort=TopAll) 🔍**\n
        \n
        If your post meets the following criteria, it’s welcome here!\n
        \n
        1. Open-ended\n
        2. Not offensive: at this point, we do not have the bandwidth to moderate overtly political discussions\n
        3. **Not regarding using or support for Lemmy**: [context](https://lemmy.ml/post/1223478), find help in the list of support alternatives below\n
        4. Not ad nauseam inducing: please make sure it is a question that would be new to most members\n
        5. [An actual topic of discussion](https://lemmy.ml/post/1239589)\n
        \n
        Support alternatives:\n
        \n
        - [!lemmy_support@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/lemmy_support)\n
        - [!nostupidlemmyquestions@lemmy.dbzer0.com](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/nostupidlemmyquestions)\n
        - [!selfhosted@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/selfhosted)\n
        \n
        ~Icon~ ~by~ ~@Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de~
        """
      +rules: null
      +subscriptionsCount: 0
      +entryCount: 580
      +entryCommentCount: 15558
      +postCount: 7
      +postCommentCount: 129
      +isAdult: false
      +customCss: null
      +lastActive: DateTime @1689748304 {#275
        date: 2023-07-19 08:31:44.0 +02:00
      }
      +markedForDeletionAt: null
      +tags: null
      +moderators: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#237 …}
      +ownershipRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#233 …}
      +moderatorRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#222 …}
      +entries: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#180 …}
      +posts: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#138 …}
      +subscriptions: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#200 …}
      +bans: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#117 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#103 …}
      +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#81 …}
      +logs: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#71 …}
      +awards: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1346 …}
      +categories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1823 …}
      -id: 9
      +apId: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +apProfileId: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apPublicUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apFollowersUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy/followers"
      +apInboxUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/inbox"
      +apDomain: "lemmy.ml"
      +apPreferredUsername: "asklemmy"
      +apDiscoverable: true
      +apManuallyApprovesFollowers: null
      +privateKey: null
      +publicKey: null
      +apFetchedAt: DateTime @1689747596 {#269
        date: 2023-07-19 08:19:56.0 +02:00
      }
      +apDeletedAt: null
      +apTimeoutAt: null
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1686889707 {#271
        date: 2023-06-16 06:28:27.0 +02:00
      }
    }
    +image: null
    +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#1915 …}
    +slug: "Best-options-for-Non-Google-cloud-storage-as-of-2022"
    +title: "Best options for Non-Google cloud storage as of 2022?"
    +url: null
    +body: """
      What are Lemmy’s feelings about the best cloud storage options these days, if you really want to break into the 1-2TB range? I’m not there yet, probably not even halfway there, but I like the peace of mind of potentially having the space if I need it. And I think subscribing to something in the Netflix price range is maybe something I’m ready for.\n
      \n
      My thoughts so far:\n
      \n
      [pcloud](https://www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime) - Intriguing because you can pay for a “lifetime” plan of 2TB of storage. But it’s $350, which is a lot, and I don’t know that I love the interface or usability, and I don’t know if I trust them.\n
      \n
      [iDrive](https://www.idrive.com/pricing) - Super affordable. 5tb for “just” $80/year. It might be the best deal, but nothing about their identity suggests to me that they are “good guys.” By which I mean, I’m not sure I trust them to make long-term promises for any specific plan.\n
      \n
      [Mega](https://mega.io/pro) - I like its very anti-google, very encrypted attitude. Born from the ashes of megaupload, they built encryption and zero knowledge into it. I LOVE that you can connect to it through the android app Solid Explorer and therefore don’t even need the mega app if you don’t want it. I hear bad things about it though? And it’s pretty expensive at $115 per year for 2TB.\n
      \n
      My personal thoughts/reasoning/caveats:\n
      \n
      **Homebrew stuff**: I don’t *quite* trust myself to use a homebrew setup like Nextcloud or Syncthing correctly. There’s too much in terms of labor, upkeep, catastrophic single points of failure where you could lose everything. I feel like I’m 70% of the way to being smart enough to do this.\n
      \n
      **Avoiding the Bad Guys and the Free Stuff**: I’ve tried the free version of just about everything, from Google to Onedrive to Dropbox to Mediafire to Mega. There’s even an android app that offers 1 free terrabyte?? But I don’t want something from the bad guys where I’m going to be integrated into their closed source death drap: Google, Amazon, Microsoft, Apple, and I don’t want a too-good-to-be-true free service where I’m the product.\n
      \n
      I also would prefer to avoid something from the upstarts who kinda-sorta imitate the bad guys: Dropbox, Mediafire, Box. Because I’m not sure how much I can trust any specific long term promise from them.\n
      \n
      **It sounds like you’re saying nothing is good enough! What exactly do you want!?** Something from good guys, not bad guys. Something like [Standardnotes](https://standardnotes.com/), but for file storage. They emphasize privacy, good governance principles and longevity of their service. Or [Linode](https://www.linode.com/support-experience/), with their independence, sense of mission, love of Linux & free software, all of which tells me they are good guys.\n
      \n
      Probably the correct answer is (1) here’s this magical perfect source I never thought of, or (2) I’m thinking this much about it, I should probably do Nextcloud or syncthing given all the constraints that I’m putting out there.\n
      \n
      Anyway, that’s my thoughts on cloud storage. What are yours?
      """
    +type: "article"
    +lang: "en"
    +isOc: false
    +hasEmbed: false
    +commentCount: 25
    +favouriteCount: 41
    +score: 0
    +isAdult: false
    +sticky: false
    +lastActive: DateTime @1689719793 {#2414
      date: 2023-07-19 00:36:33.0 +02:00
    }
    +ip: null
    +adaAmount: 0
    +tags: null
    +mentions: null
    +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1884 …}
    +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1973 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1959 …}
    +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1927 …}
    +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2442 …}
    +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2440 …}
    +children: []
    -id: 1294
    -titleTs: "'2022':11 'best':1 'cloud':7 'googl':6 'non':5 'non-googl':4 'option':2 'storag':8"
    -bodyTs: "'-2':23 '/),':451 '/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':77 '/pricing)':123 '/pro)':173 '/support-experience/),':471 '1':22,337,497 '115':240 '2':509 '2tb':88,244 '350':94 '5tb':126 '70':290 '80/year':129 'afford':125 'also':387 'amazon':364 'android':208,333 'answer':495 'anti':179 'anti-googl':178 'anyway':534 'app':209,220,334 'appl':366 'ash':187 'attitud':183 'avoid':301,391 'bad':229,303,348,402,444 'best':8,134 'born':184 'box':406 'break':19 'built':191 'catastroph':275 'close':359 'cloud':9,540 'connect':203 'constraint':527 'correct':265,494 'could':282 'day':13 'deal':135 'death':361 'drap':362 'dropbox':324,404 'emphas':457 'encrypt':182,192 'enough':297,433 'even':33,216,331 'everyth':284,318 'exact':435 'expens':238 'explor':211 'failur':279 'far':73 'feel':5,286 'file':454 'free':307,313,338,379,481 'given':524 'go':353 'good':147,375,432,441,459,490 'googl':180,320,363 'govern':460 'guy':148,304,349,403,442,445,491 'halfway':34 'hear':228 'homebrew':248,259 'ident':140 'idriv':120 'imit':400 'independ':474 'integr':356 'interfac':108 'intrigu':78 'kinda':398 'kinda-sorta':397 'know':103,115 'knowledg':195 'labor':273 'lemmi':3 'lifetim':85 'like':38,175,261,287,426,447 'linod':468 'linux':480 'long':163,419 'long-term':162 'longev':463 'lose':283 'lot':98 'love':106,199,478 'm':27,67,154,289,352,383,409,511,530 'magic':501 'make':161 'mayb':64 'mean':152 'mediafir':326,405 'mega':170,219,328 'mega.io':172 'mega.io/pro)':171 'megaupload':189 'microsoft':365 'might':131 'mind':42 'mission':477 'much':269,413,514 'need':50,217 'netflix':60 'never':505 'nextcloud':262,521 'noth':137,430 'offer':336 'onedr':322 'option':11 'pay':82 'pcloud':74 'peac':40 'per':241 'perfect':502 'person':246 'plan':86,169 'point':277 'potenti':44 'prefer':389 'pretti':237 'price':61 'principl':461 'privaci':458 'probabl':31,492,519 'product':385 'promis':165,421 'put':531 'quit':253 'rang':25,62 're':428 'readi':68 'realli':16 'say':429 'sens':475 'servic':380,466 'setup':260 'singl':276 'smart':296 'softwar':482 'solid':210 'someth':57,65,345,392,439,446 'sorta':399 'sound':425 'sourc':360,503 'space':47 'specif':168,418 'standardnot':448 'standardnotes.com':450 'standardnotes.com/),':449 'storag':10,90,455,541 'stuff':249,308 'subscrib':55 'suggest':141 'super':124 'sure':156,411 'syncth':264,523 'tb':24 'tell':486 'term':164,271,420 'terrabyt':339 'therefor':213 'thing':230 'think':54,512 'though':233 'thought':71,506,538 'thoughts/reasoning/caveats':247 'too-good-to-be-tru':373 'tri':311 'true':378 'trust':118,158,254,416 'upkeep':274 'upstart':395 'usabl':110 'use':257 've':310 'version':314 'want':17,225,344,371,438 'way':293 'would':388 'www.idrive.com':122 'www.idrive.com/pricing)':121 'www.linode.com':470 'www.linode.com/support-experience/),':469 'www.pcloud.com':76 'www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':75 'year':242 'yet':30 'zero':194"
    +cross: false
    +upVotes: 0
    +downVotes: 0
    +ranking: 1642260128
    +visibility: "visible             "
    +apId: "https://lemmy.ml/post/149005"
    +editedAt: null
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1642173728 {#1793
      date: 2022-01-14 16:22:08.0 +01:00
    }
  }
  +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
  +image: null
  +parent: App\Entity\EntryComment {#4295
    +user: App\Entity\User {#4308 …}
    +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419}
    +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
    +image: null
    +parent: null
    +root: null
    +body: """
      This is perhaps for a narrower audience, but if you run a consumer version of Windows (not Server), you can get Backblaze unlimited storage for $70/year per device.\n
      \n
      They support encryption with a key you provide in the client, which is super convenient. Restoring individual files is pretty straightforward, but an entire drive was a bit of work last time I had to do it. For the price, it’s a nice piece peace of mind for 10TB+ of versioned storage.
      """
    +lang: "en"
    +isAdult: false
    +favouriteCount: 3
    +score: 0
    +lastActive: DateTime @1689702815 {#4289
      date: 2023-07-18 19:53:35.0 +02:00
    }
    +ip: null
    +tags: null
    +mentions: [
      "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
    ]
    +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4296 …}
    +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4298 …}
    +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4300 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4302 …}
    +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4304 …}
    +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4306 …}
    -id: 19234
    -bodyTs: "'10tb':78 '70/year':26 'audienc':7 'backblaz':22 'bit':56 'client':39 'consum':13 'conveni':43 'devic':28 'drive':53 'encrypt':31 'entir':52 'file':46 'get':21 'individu':45 'key':34 'last':59 'mind':76 'narrow':6 'nice':72 'peac':74 'per':27 'perhap':3 'piec':73 'pretti':48 'price':68 'provid':36 'restor':44 'run':11 'server':18 'storag':24,81 'straightforward':49 'super':42 'support':30 'time':60 'unlimit':23 'version':14,80 'window':16 'work':58"
    +ranking: 0
    +commentCount: 0
    +upVotes: 0
    +downVotes: 0
    +visibility: "visible             "
    +apId: "https://lemmy.sdf.org/comment/1069017"
    +editedAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689476746 {#4290
      date: 2023-07-16 05:05:46.0 +02:00
    }
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689474750 {#4291
      date: 2023-07-16 04:32:30.0 +02:00
    }
  }
  +root: App\Entity\EntryComment {#4295}
  +body: """
    That’s what I personally use, but it’s important to note that Backblaze is meant to be a BACKUP, not “cloud storage” like OP asked about. The goal of backup is just to make sure your local files have a copy somewhere. If somebody’s asking for a cloud storage solution, they’re generally looking for an offsite place to store all their files.\n
    \n
    Obviously there’s a lot of grey area, as some cloud storage companies offer “backup” services for some (but not all) of your local files. But in general, these are two different things.
    """
  +lang: "en"
  +isAdult: false
  +favouriteCount: 0
  +score: 0
  +lastActive: DateTime @1689702710 {#4973
    date: 2023-07-18 19:51:50.0 +02:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +tags: null
  +mentions: [
    "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
    "@bmorton@lemmy.sdf.org"
  ]
  +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4976 …}
  +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4978 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4980 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4982 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4984 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4986 …}
  -id: 21976
  -bodyTs: "'area':73 'ask':26,47 'backblaz':14 'backup':20,31,80 'cloud':22,50,76 'compani':78 'copi':42 'differ':97 'file':39,65,90 'general':55,93 'goal':29 'grey':72 'import':10 'like':24 'local':38,89 'look':56 'lot':70 'make':35 'meant':16 'note':12 'obvious':66 'offer':79 'offsit':59 'op':25 'person':5 'place':60 're':54 'servic':81 'solut':52 'somebodi':45 'somewher':43 'storag':23,51,77 'store':62 'sure':36 'thing':98 'two':96 'use':6"
  +ranking: 0
  +commentCount: 0
  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://lemmy.one/comment/1241882"
  +editedAt: null
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689702710 {#4974
    date: 2023-07-18 19:51:50.0 +02:00
  }
}
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
40 DENIED moderate 
App\Entity\EntryComment {#4975
  +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#4913 …}
  +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419
    +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#1970 …}
    +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265
      +icon: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#246 …}
      +name: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +title: "asklemmy"
      +description: """
        A loosely moderated place to ask open-ended questions\n
        \n
        **[Search asklemmy](https://lemmy.ml/search?q=&type=Posts&listingType=All&communityId=8&page=1&sort=TopAll) 🔍**\n
        \n
        If your post meets the following criteria, it’s welcome here!\n
        \n
        1. Open-ended\n
        2. Not offensive: at this point, we do not have the bandwidth to moderate overtly political discussions\n
        3. **Not regarding using or support for Lemmy**: [context](https://lemmy.ml/post/1223478), find help in the list of support alternatives below\n
        4. Not ad nauseam inducing: please make sure it is a question that would be new to most members\n
        5. [An actual topic of discussion](https://lemmy.ml/post/1239589)\n
        \n
        Support alternatives:\n
        \n
        - [!lemmy_support@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/lemmy_support)\n
        - [!nostupidlemmyquestions@lemmy.dbzer0.com](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/nostupidlemmyquestions)\n
        - [!selfhosted@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/selfhosted)\n
        \n
        ~Icon~ ~by~ ~@Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de~
        """
      +rules: null
      +subscriptionsCount: 0
      +entryCount: 580
      +entryCommentCount: 15558
      +postCount: 7
      +postCommentCount: 129
      +isAdult: false
      +customCss: null
      +lastActive: DateTime @1689748304 {#275
        date: 2023-07-19 08:31:44.0 +02:00
      }
      +markedForDeletionAt: null
      +tags: null
      +moderators: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#237 …}
      +ownershipRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#233 …}
      +moderatorRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#222 …}
      +entries: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#180 …}
      +posts: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#138 …}
      +subscriptions: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#200 …}
      +bans: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#117 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#103 …}
      +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#81 …}
      +logs: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#71 …}
      +awards: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1346 …}
      +categories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1823 …}
      -id: 9
      +apId: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +apProfileId: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apPublicUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apFollowersUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy/followers"
      +apInboxUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/inbox"
      +apDomain: "lemmy.ml"
      +apPreferredUsername: "asklemmy"
      +apDiscoverable: true
      +apManuallyApprovesFollowers: null
      +privateKey: null
      +publicKey: null
      +apFetchedAt: DateTime @1689747596 {#269
        date: 2023-07-19 08:19:56.0 +02:00
      }
      +apDeletedAt: null
      +apTimeoutAt: null
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1686889707 {#271
        date: 2023-06-16 06:28:27.0 +02:00
      }
    }
    +image: null
    +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#1915 …}
    +slug: "Best-options-for-Non-Google-cloud-storage-as-of-2022"
    +title: "Best options for Non-Google cloud storage as of 2022?"
    +url: null
    +body: """
      What are Lemmy’s feelings about the best cloud storage options these days, if you really want to break into the 1-2TB range? I’m not there yet, probably not even halfway there, but I like the peace of mind of potentially having the space if I need it. And I think subscribing to something in the Netflix price range is maybe something I’m ready for.\n
      \n
      My thoughts so far:\n
      \n
      [pcloud](https://www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime) - Intriguing because you can pay for a “lifetime” plan of 2TB of storage. But it’s $350, which is a lot, and I don’t know that I love the interface or usability, and I don’t know if I trust them.\n
      \n
      [iDrive](https://www.idrive.com/pricing) - Super affordable. 5tb for “just” $80/year. It might be the best deal, but nothing about their identity suggests to me that they are “good guys.” By which I mean, I’m not sure I trust them to make long-term promises for any specific plan.\n
      \n
      [Mega](https://mega.io/pro) - I like its very anti-google, very encrypted attitude. Born from the ashes of megaupload, they built encryption and zero knowledge into it. I LOVE that you can connect to it through the android app Solid Explorer and therefore don’t even need the mega app if you don’t want it. I hear bad things about it though? And it’s pretty expensive at $115 per year for 2TB.\n
      \n
      My personal thoughts/reasoning/caveats:\n
      \n
      **Homebrew stuff**: I don’t *quite* trust myself to use a homebrew setup like Nextcloud or Syncthing correctly. There’s too much in terms of labor, upkeep, catastrophic single points of failure where you could lose everything. I feel like I’m 70% of the way to being smart enough to do this.\n
      \n
      **Avoiding the Bad Guys and the Free Stuff**: I’ve tried the free version of just about everything, from Google to Onedrive to Dropbox to Mediafire to Mega. There’s even an android app that offers 1 free terrabyte?? But I don’t want something from the bad guys where I’m going to be integrated into their closed source death drap: Google, Amazon, Microsoft, Apple, and I don’t want a too-good-to-be-true free service where I’m the product.\n
      \n
      I also would prefer to avoid something from the upstarts who kinda-sorta imitate the bad guys: Dropbox, Mediafire, Box. Because I’m not sure how much I can trust any specific long term promise from them.\n
      \n
      **It sounds like you’re saying nothing is good enough! What exactly do you want!?** Something from good guys, not bad guys. Something like [Standardnotes](https://standardnotes.com/), but for file storage. They emphasize privacy, good governance principles and longevity of their service. Or [Linode](https://www.linode.com/support-experience/), with their independence, sense of mission, love of Linux & free software, all of which tells me they are good guys.\n
      \n
      Probably the correct answer is (1) here’s this magical perfect source I never thought of, or (2) I’m thinking this much about it, I should probably do Nextcloud or syncthing given all the constraints that I’m putting out there.\n
      \n
      Anyway, that’s my thoughts on cloud storage. What are yours?
      """
    +type: "article"
    +lang: "en"
    +isOc: false
    +hasEmbed: false
    +commentCount: 25
    +favouriteCount: 41
    +score: 0
    +isAdult: false
    +sticky: false
    +lastActive: DateTime @1689719793 {#2414
      date: 2023-07-19 00:36:33.0 +02:00
    }
    +ip: null
    +adaAmount: 0
    +tags: null
    +mentions: null
    +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1884 …}
    +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1973 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1959 …}
    +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1927 …}
    +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2442 …}
    +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2440 …}
    +children: []
    -id: 1294
    -titleTs: "'2022':11 'best':1 'cloud':7 'googl':6 'non':5 'non-googl':4 'option':2 'storag':8"
    -bodyTs: "'-2':23 '/),':451 '/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':77 '/pricing)':123 '/pro)':173 '/support-experience/),':471 '1':22,337,497 '115':240 '2':509 '2tb':88,244 '350':94 '5tb':126 '70':290 '80/year':129 'afford':125 'also':387 'amazon':364 'android':208,333 'answer':495 'anti':179 'anti-googl':178 'anyway':534 'app':209,220,334 'appl':366 'ash':187 'attitud':183 'avoid':301,391 'bad':229,303,348,402,444 'best':8,134 'born':184 'box':406 'break':19 'built':191 'catastroph':275 'close':359 'cloud':9,540 'connect':203 'constraint':527 'correct':265,494 'could':282 'day':13 'deal':135 'death':361 'drap':362 'dropbox':324,404 'emphas':457 'encrypt':182,192 'enough':297,433 'even':33,216,331 'everyth':284,318 'exact':435 'expens':238 'explor':211 'failur':279 'far':73 'feel':5,286 'file':454 'free':307,313,338,379,481 'given':524 'go':353 'good':147,375,432,441,459,490 'googl':180,320,363 'govern':460 'guy':148,304,349,403,442,445,491 'halfway':34 'hear':228 'homebrew':248,259 'ident':140 'idriv':120 'imit':400 'independ':474 'integr':356 'interfac':108 'intrigu':78 'kinda':398 'kinda-sorta':397 'know':103,115 'knowledg':195 'labor':273 'lemmi':3 'lifetim':85 'like':38,175,261,287,426,447 'linod':468 'linux':480 'long':163,419 'long-term':162 'longev':463 'lose':283 'lot':98 'love':106,199,478 'm':27,67,154,289,352,383,409,511,530 'magic':501 'make':161 'mayb':64 'mean':152 'mediafir':326,405 'mega':170,219,328 'mega.io':172 'mega.io/pro)':171 'megaupload':189 'microsoft':365 'might':131 'mind':42 'mission':477 'much':269,413,514 'need':50,217 'netflix':60 'never':505 'nextcloud':262,521 'noth':137,430 'offer':336 'onedr':322 'option':11 'pay':82 'pcloud':74 'peac':40 'per':241 'perfect':502 'person':246 'plan':86,169 'point':277 'potenti':44 'prefer':389 'pretti':237 'price':61 'principl':461 'privaci':458 'probabl':31,492,519 'product':385 'promis':165,421 'put':531 'quit':253 'rang':25,62 're':428 'readi':68 'realli':16 'say':429 'sens':475 'servic':380,466 'setup':260 'singl':276 'smart':296 'softwar':482 'solid':210 'someth':57,65,345,392,439,446 'sorta':399 'sound':425 'sourc':360,503 'space':47 'specif':168,418 'standardnot':448 'standardnotes.com':450 'standardnotes.com/),':449 'storag':10,90,455,541 'stuff':249,308 'subscrib':55 'suggest':141 'super':124 'sure':156,411 'syncth':264,523 'tb':24 'tell':486 'term':164,271,420 'terrabyt':339 'therefor':213 'thing':230 'think':54,512 'though':233 'thought':71,506,538 'thoughts/reasoning/caveats':247 'too-good-to-be-tru':373 'tri':311 'true':378 'trust':118,158,254,416 'upkeep':274 'upstart':395 'usabl':110 'use':257 've':310 'version':314 'want':17,225,344,371,438 'way':293 'would':388 'www.idrive.com':122 'www.idrive.com/pricing)':121 'www.linode.com':470 'www.linode.com/support-experience/),':469 'www.pcloud.com':76 'www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':75 'year':242 'yet':30 'zero':194"
    +cross: false
    +upVotes: 0
    +downVotes: 0
    +ranking: 1642260128
    +visibility: "visible             "
    +apId: "https://lemmy.ml/post/149005"
    +editedAt: null
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1642173728 {#1793
      date: 2022-01-14 16:22:08.0 +01:00
    }
  }
  +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
  +image: null
  +parent: App\Entity\EntryComment {#4295
    +user: App\Entity\User {#4308 …}
    +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419}
    +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
    +image: null
    +parent: null
    +root: null
    +body: """
      This is perhaps for a narrower audience, but if you run a consumer version of Windows (not Server), you can get Backblaze unlimited storage for $70/year per device.\n
      \n
      They support encryption with a key you provide in the client, which is super convenient. Restoring individual files is pretty straightforward, but an entire drive was a bit of work last time I had to do it. For the price, it’s a nice piece peace of mind for 10TB+ of versioned storage.
      """
    +lang: "en"
    +isAdult: false
    +favouriteCount: 3
    +score: 0
    +lastActive: DateTime @1689702815 {#4289
      date: 2023-07-18 19:53:35.0 +02:00
    }
    +ip: null
    +tags: null
    +mentions: [
      "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
    ]
    +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4296 …}
    +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4298 …}
    +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4300 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4302 …}
    +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4304 …}
    +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4306 …}
    -id: 19234
    -bodyTs: "'10tb':78 '70/year':26 'audienc':7 'backblaz':22 'bit':56 'client':39 'consum':13 'conveni':43 'devic':28 'drive':53 'encrypt':31 'entir':52 'file':46 'get':21 'individu':45 'key':34 'last':59 'mind':76 'narrow':6 'nice':72 'peac':74 'per':27 'perhap':3 'piec':73 'pretti':48 'price':68 'provid':36 'restor':44 'run':11 'server':18 'storag':24,81 'straightforward':49 'super':42 'support':30 'time':60 'unlimit':23 'version':14,80 'window':16 'work':58"
    +ranking: 0
    +commentCount: 0
    +upVotes: 0
    +downVotes: 0
    +visibility: "visible             "
    +apId: "https://lemmy.sdf.org/comment/1069017"
    +editedAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689476746 {#4290
      date: 2023-07-16 05:05:46.0 +02:00
    }
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689474750 {#4291
      date: 2023-07-16 04:32:30.0 +02:00
    }
  }
  +root: App\Entity\EntryComment {#4295}
  +body: """
    That’s what I personally use, but it’s important to note that Backblaze is meant to be a BACKUP, not “cloud storage” like OP asked about. The goal of backup is just to make sure your local files have a copy somewhere. If somebody’s asking for a cloud storage solution, they’re generally looking for an offsite place to store all their files.\n
    \n
    Obviously there’s a lot of grey area, as some cloud storage companies offer “backup” services for some (but not all) of your local files. But in general, these are two different things.
    """
  +lang: "en"
  +isAdult: false
  +favouriteCount: 0
  +score: 0
  +lastActive: DateTime @1689702710 {#4973
    date: 2023-07-18 19:51:50.0 +02:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +tags: null
  +mentions: [
    "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
    "@bmorton@lemmy.sdf.org"
  ]
  +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4976 …}
  +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4978 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4980 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4982 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4984 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4986 …}
  -id: 21976
  -bodyTs: "'area':73 'ask':26,47 'backblaz':14 'backup':20,31,80 'cloud':22,50,76 'compani':78 'copi':42 'differ':97 'file':39,65,90 'general':55,93 'goal':29 'grey':72 'import':10 'like':24 'local':38,89 'look':56 'lot':70 'make':35 'meant':16 'note':12 'obvious':66 'offer':79 'offsit':59 'op':25 'person':5 'place':60 're':54 'servic':81 'solut':52 'somebodi':45 'somewher':43 'storag':23,51,77 'store':62 'sure':36 'thing':98 'two':96 'use':6"
  +ranking: 0
  +commentCount: 0
  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://lemmy.one/comment/1241882"
  +editedAt: null
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689702710 {#4974
    date: 2023-07-18 19:51:50.0 +02:00
  }
}
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
41 DENIED ROLE_USER 
null
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
42 DENIED moderate 
App\Entity\EntryComment {#4368
  +user: App\Entity\User {#4381 …}
  +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419
    +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#1970 …}
    +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265
      +icon: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#246 …}
      +name: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +title: "asklemmy"
      +description: """
        A loosely moderated place to ask open-ended questions\n
        \n
        **[Search asklemmy](https://lemmy.ml/search?q=&type=Posts&listingType=All&communityId=8&page=1&sort=TopAll) 🔍**\n
        \n
        If your post meets the following criteria, it’s welcome here!\n
        \n
        1. Open-ended\n
        2. Not offensive: at this point, we do not have the bandwidth to moderate overtly political discussions\n
        3. **Not regarding using or support for Lemmy**: [context](https://lemmy.ml/post/1223478), find help in the list of support alternatives below\n
        4. Not ad nauseam inducing: please make sure it is a question that would be new to most members\n
        5. [An actual topic of discussion](https://lemmy.ml/post/1239589)\n
        \n
        Support alternatives:\n
        \n
        - [!lemmy_support@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/lemmy_support)\n
        - [!nostupidlemmyquestions@lemmy.dbzer0.com](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/nostupidlemmyquestions)\n
        - [!selfhosted@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/selfhosted)\n
        \n
        ~Icon~ ~by~ ~@Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de~
        """
      +rules: null
      +subscriptionsCount: 0
      +entryCount: 580
      +entryCommentCount: 15558
      +postCount: 7
      +postCommentCount: 129
      +isAdult: false
      +customCss: null
      +lastActive: DateTime @1689748304 {#275
        date: 2023-07-19 08:31:44.0 +02:00
      }
      +markedForDeletionAt: null
      +tags: null
      +moderators: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#237 …}
      +ownershipRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#233 …}
      +moderatorRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#222 …}
      +entries: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#180 …}
      +posts: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#138 …}
      +subscriptions: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#200 …}
      +bans: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#117 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#103 …}
      +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#81 …}
      +logs: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#71 …}
      +awards: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1346 …}
      +categories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1823 …}
      -id: 9
      +apId: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +apProfileId: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apPublicUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apFollowersUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy/followers"
      +apInboxUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/inbox"
      +apDomain: "lemmy.ml"
      +apPreferredUsername: "asklemmy"
      +apDiscoverable: true
      +apManuallyApprovesFollowers: null
      +privateKey: null
      +publicKey: null
      +apFetchedAt: DateTime @1689747596 {#269
        date: 2023-07-19 08:19:56.0 +02:00
      }
      +apDeletedAt: null
      +apTimeoutAt: null
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1686889707 {#271
        date: 2023-06-16 06:28:27.0 +02:00
      }
    }
    +image: null
    +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#1915 …}
    +slug: "Best-options-for-Non-Google-cloud-storage-as-of-2022"
    +title: "Best options for Non-Google cloud storage as of 2022?"
    +url: null
    +body: """
      What are Lemmy’s feelings about the best cloud storage options these days, if you really want to break into the 1-2TB range? I’m not there yet, probably not even halfway there, but I like the peace of mind of potentially having the space if I need it. And I think subscribing to something in the Netflix price range is maybe something I’m ready for.\n
      \n
      My thoughts so far:\n
      \n
      [pcloud](https://www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime) - Intriguing because you can pay for a “lifetime” plan of 2TB of storage. But it’s $350, which is a lot, and I don’t know that I love the interface or usability, and I don’t know if I trust them.\n
      \n
      [iDrive](https://www.idrive.com/pricing) - Super affordable. 5tb for “just” $80/year. It might be the best deal, but nothing about their identity suggests to me that they are “good guys.” By which I mean, I’m not sure I trust them to make long-term promises for any specific plan.\n
      \n
      [Mega](https://mega.io/pro) - I like its very anti-google, very encrypted attitude. Born from the ashes of megaupload, they built encryption and zero knowledge into it. I LOVE that you can connect to it through the android app Solid Explorer and therefore don’t even need the mega app if you don’t want it. I hear bad things about it though? And it’s pretty expensive at $115 per year for 2TB.\n
      \n
      My personal thoughts/reasoning/caveats:\n
      \n
      **Homebrew stuff**: I don’t *quite* trust myself to use a homebrew setup like Nextcloud or Syncthing correctly. There’s too much in terms of labor, upkeep, catastrophic single points of failure where you could lose everything. I feel like I’m 70% of the way to being smart enough to do this.\n
      \n
      **Avoiding the Bad Guys and the Free Stuff**: I’ve tried the free version of just about everything, from Google to Onedrive to Dropbox to Mediafire to Mega. There’s even an android app that offers 1 free terrabyte?? But I don’t want something from the bad guys where I’m going to be integrated into their closed source death drap: Google, Amazon, Microsoft, Apple, and I don’t want a too-good-to-be-true free service where I’m the product.\n
      \n
      I also would prefer to avoid something from the upstarts who kinda-sorta imitate the bad guys: Dropbox, Mediafire, Box. Because I’m not sure how much I can trust any specific long term promise from them.\n
      \n
      **It sounds like you’re saying nothing is good enough! What exactly do you want!?** Something from good guys, not bad guys. Something like [Standardnotes](https://standardnotes.com/), but for file storage. They emphasize privacy, good governance principles and longevity of their service. Or [Linode](https://www.linode.com/support-experience/), with their independence, sense of mission, love of Linux & free software, all of which tells me they are good guys.\n
      \n
      Probably the correct answer is (1) here’s this magical perfect source I never thought of, or (2) I’m thinking this much about it, I should probably do Nextcloud or syncthing given all the constraints that I’m putting out there.\n
      \n
      Anyway, that’s my thoughts on cloud storage. What are yours?
      """
    +type: "article"
    +lang: "en"
    +isOc: false
    +hasEmbed: false
    +commentCount: 25
    +favouriteCount: 41
    +score: 0
    +isAdult: false
    +sticky: false
    +lastActive: DateTime @1689719793 {#2414
      date: 2023-07-19 00:36:33.0 +02:00
    }
    +ip: null
    +adaAmount: 0
    +tags: null
    +mentions: null
    +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1884 …}
    +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1973 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1959 …}
    +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1927 …}
    +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2442 …}
    +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2440 …}
    +children: []
    -id: 1294
    -titleTs: "'2022':11 'best':1 'cloud':7 'googl':6 'non':5 'non-googl':4 'option':2 'storag':8"
    -bodyTs: "'-2':23 '/),':451 '/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':77 '/pricing)':123 '/pro)':173 '/support-experience/),':471 '1':22,337,497 '115':240 '2':509 '2tb':88,244 '350':94 '5tb':126 '70':290 '80/year':129 'afford':125 'also':387 'amazon':364 'android':208,333 'answer':495 'anti':179 'anti-googl':178 'anyway':534 'app':209,220,334 'appl':366 'ash':187 'attitud':183 'avoid':301,391 'bad':229,303,348,402,444 'best':8,134 'born':184 'box':406 'break':19 'built':191 'catastroph':275 'close':359 'cloud':9,540 'connect':203 'constraint':527 'correct':265,494 'could':282 'day':13 'deal':135 'death':361 'drap':362 'dropbox':324,404 'emphas':457 'encrypt':182,192 'enough':297,433 'even':33,216,331 'everyth':284,318 'exact':435 'expens':238 'explor':211 'failur':279 'far':73 'feel':5,286 'file':454 'free':307,313,338,379,481 'given':524 'go':353 'good':147,375,432,441,459,490 'googl':180,320,363 'govern':460 'guy':148,304,349,403,442,445,491 'halfway':34 'hear':228 'homebrew':248,259 'ident':140 'idriv':120 'imit':400 'independ':474 'integr':356 'interfac':108 'intrigu':78 'kinda':398 'kinda-sorta':397 'know':103,115 'knowledg':195 'labor':273 'lemmi':3 'lifetim':85 'like':38,175,261,287,426,447 'linod':468 'linux':480 'long':163,419 'long-term':162 'longev':463 'lose':283 'lot':98 'love':106,199,478 'm':27,67,154,289,352,383,409,511,530 'magic':501 'make':161 'mayb':64 'mean':152 'mediafir':326,405 'mega':170,219,328 'mega.io':172 'mega.io/pro)':171 'megaupload':189 'microsoft':365 'might':131 'mind':42 'mission':477 'much':269,413,514 'need':50,217 'netflix':60 'never':505 'nextcloud':262,521 'noth':137,430 'offer':336 'onedr':322 'option':11 'pay':82 'pcloud':74 'peac':40 'per':241 'perfect':502 'person':246 'plan':86,169 'point':277 'potenti':44 'prefer':389 'pretti':237 'price':61 'principl':461 'privaci':458 'probabl':31,492,519 'product':385 'promis':165,421 'put':531 'quit':253 'rang':25,62 're':428 'readi':68 'realli':16 'say':429 'sens':475 'servic':380,466 'setup':260 'singl':276 'smart':296 'softwar':482 'solid':210 'someth':57,65,345,392,439,446 'sorta':399 'sound':425 'sourc':360,503 'space':47 'specif':168,418 'standardnot':448 'standardnotes.com':450 'standardnotes.com/),':449 'storag':10,90,455,541 'stuff':249,308 'subscrib':55 'suggest':141 'super':124 'sure':156,411 'syncth':264,523 'tb':24 'tell':486 'term':164,271,420 'terrabyt':339 'therefor':213 'thing':230 'think':54,512 'though':233 'thought':71,506,538 'thoughts/reasoning/caveats':247 'too-good-to-be-tru':373 'tri':311 'true':378 'trust':118,158,254,416 'upkeep':274 'upstart':395 'usabl':110 'use':257 've':310 'version':314 'want':17,225,344,371,438 'way':293 'would':388 'www.idrive.com':122 'www.idrive.com/pricing)':121 'www.linode.com':470 'www.linode.com/support-experience/),':469 'www.pcloud.com':76 'www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':75 'year':242 'yet':30 'zero':194"
    +cross: false
    +upVotes: 0
    +downVotes: 0
    +ranking: 1642260128
    +visibility: "visible             "
    +apId: "https://lemmy.ml/post/149005"
    +editedAt: null
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1642173728 {#1793
      date: 2022-01-14 16:22:08.0 +01:00
    }
  }
  +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
  +image: null
  +parent: null
  +root: null
  +body: "I’ve used pCloud for three years. Initially it is a lot, especially if you’re not sure if you will commit to them, but if you do, you have one less hidden big expenditure masked as subscription, which nowadays is valuable. I wish they released their Linux version through Flatpak and not Appimage, though"
  +lang: "en"
  +isAdult: false
  +favouriteCount: 2
  +score: 0
  +lastActive: DateTime @1689465833 {#4363
    date: 2023-07-16 02:03:53.0 +02:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +tags: null
  +mentions: [
    "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
  ]
  +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4369 …}
  +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4371 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4373 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4375 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4377 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4379 …}
  -id: 18697
  -bodyTs: "'appimag':54 'big':34 'commit':22 'especi':13 'expenditur':35 'flatpak':51 'hidden':33 'initi':8 'less':32 'linux':48 'lot':12 'mask':36 'nowaday':40 'one':31 'pcloud':4 're':16 'releas':46 'subscript':38 'sure':18 'though':55 'three':6 'use':3 'valuabl':42 've':2 'version':49 'wish':44 'year':7"
  +ranking: 0
  +commentCount: 0
  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://feddit.it/comment/959039"
  +editedAt: null
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689452196 {#4364
    date: 2023-07-15 22:16:36.0 +02:00
  }
}
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
43 DENIED edit 
App\Entity\EntryComment {#4368
  +user: App\Entity\User {#4381 …}
  +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419
    +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#1970 …}
    +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265
      +icon: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#246 …}
      +name: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +title: "asklemmy"
      +description: """
        A loosely moderated place to ask open-ended questions\n
        \n
        **[Search asklemmy](https://lemmy.ml/search?q=&type=Posts&listingType=All&communityId=8&page=1&sort=TopAll) 🔍**\n
        \n
        If your post meets the following criteria, it’s welcome here!\n
        \n
        1. Open-ended\n
        2. Not offensive: at this point, we do not have the bandwidth to moderate overtly political discussions\n
        3. **Not regarding using or support for Lemmy**: [context](https://lemmy.ml/post/1223478), find help in the list of support alternatives below\n
        4. Not ad nauseam inducing: please make sure it is a question that would be new to most members\n
        5. [An actual topic of discussion](https://lemmy.ml/post/1239589)\n
        \n
        Support alternatives:\n
        \n
        - [!lemmy_support@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/lemmy_support)\n
        - [!nostupidlemmyquestions@lemmy.dbzer0.com](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/nostupidlemmyquestions)\n
        - [!selfhosted@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/selfhosted)\n
        \n
        ~Icon~ ~by~ ~@Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de~
        """
      +rules: null
      +subscriptionsCount: 0
      +entryCount: 580
      +entryCommentCount: 15558
      +postCount: 7
      +postCommentCount: 129
      +isAdult: false
      +customCss: null
      +lastActive: DateTime @1689748304 {#275
        date: 2023-07-19 08:31:44.0 +02:00
      }
      +markedForDeletionAt: null
      +tags: null
      +moderators: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#237 …}
      +ownershipRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#233 …}
      +moderatorRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#222 …}
      +entries: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#180 …}
      +posts: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#138 …}
      +subscriptions: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#200 …}
      +bans: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#117 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#103 …}
      +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#81 …}
      +logs: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#71 …}
      +awards: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1346 …}
      +categories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1823 …}
      -id: 9
      +apId: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +apProfileId: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apPublicUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apFollowersUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy/followers"
      +apInboxUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/inbox"
      +apDomain: "lemmy.ml"
      +apPreferredUsername: "asklemmy"
      +apDiscoverable: true
      +apManuallyApprovesFollowers: null
      +privateKey: null
      +publicKey: null
      +apFetchedAt: DateTime @1689747596 {#269
        date: 2023-07-19 08:19:56.0 +02:00
      }
      +apDeletedAt: null
      +apTimeoutAt: null
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1686889707 {#271
        date: 2023-06-16 06:28:27.0 +02:00
      }
    }
    +image: null
    +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#1915 …}
    +slug: "Best-options-for-Non-Google-cloud-storage-as-of-2022"
    +title: "Best options for Non-Google cloud storage as of 2022?"
    +url: null
    +body: """
      What are Lemmy’s feelings about the best cloud storage options these days, if you really want to break into the 1-2TB range? I’m not there yet, probably not even halfway there, but I like the peace of mind of potentially having the space if I need it. And I think subscribing to something in the Netflix price range is maybe something I’m ready for.\n
      \n
      My thoughts so far:\n
      \n
      [pcloud](https://www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime) - Intriguing because you can pay for a “lifetime” plan of 2TB of storage. But it’s $350, which is a lot, and I don’t know that I love the interface or usability, and I don’t know if I trust them.\n
      \n
      [iDrive](https://www.idrive.com/pricing) - Super affordable. 5tb for “just” $80/year. It might be the best deal, but nothing about their identity suggests to me that they are “good guys.” By which I mean, I’m not sure I trust them to make long-term promises for any specific plan.\n
      \n
      [Mega](https://mega.io/pro) - I like its very anti-google, very encrypted attitude. Born from the ashes of megaupload, they built encryption and zero knowledge into it. I LOVE that you can connect to it through the android app Solid Explorer and therefore don’t even need the mega app if you don’t want it. I hear bad things about it though? And it’s pretty expensive at $115 per year for 2TB.\n
      \n
      My personal thoughts/reasoning/caveats:\n
      \n
      **Homebrew stuff**: I don’t *quite* trust myself to use a homebrew setup like Nextcloud or Syncthing correctly. There’s too much in terms of labor, upkeep, catastrophic single points of failure where you could lose everything. I feel like I’m 70% of the way to being smart enough to do this.\n
      \n
      **Avoiding the Bad Guys and the Free Stuff**: I’ve tried the free version of just about everything, from Google to Onedrive to Dropbox to Mediafire to Mega. There’s even an android app that offers 1 free terrabyte?? But I don’t want something from the bad guys where I’m going to be integrated into their closed source death drap: Google, Amazon, Microsoft, Apple, and I don’t want a too-good-to-be-true free service where I’m the product.\n
      \n
      I also would prefer to avoid something from the upstarts who kinda-sorta imitate the bad guys: Dropbox, Mediafire, Box. Because I’m not sure how much I can trust any specific long term promise from them.\n
      \n
      **It sounds like you’re saying nothing is good enough! What exactly do you want!?** Something from good guys, not bad guys. Something like [Standardnotes](https://standardnotes.com/), but for file storage. They emphasize privacy, good governance principles and longevity of their service. Or [Linode](https://www.linode.com/support-experience/), with their independence, sense of mission, love of Linux & free software, all of which tells me they are good guys.\n
      \n
      Probably the correct answer is (1) here’s this magical perfect source I never thought of, or (2) I’m thinking this much about it, I should probably do Nextcloud or syncthing given all the constraints that I’m putting out there.\n
      \n
      Anyway, that’s my thoughts on cloud storage. What are yours?
      """
    +type: "article"
    +lang: "en"
    +isOc: false
    +hasEmbed: false
    +commentCount: 25
    +favouriteCount: 41
    +score: 0
    +isAdult: false
    +sticky: false
    +lastActive: DateTime @1689719793 {#2414
      date: 2023-07-19 00:36:33.0 +02:00
    }
    +ip: null
    +adaAmount: 0
    +tags: null
    +mentions: null
    +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1884 …}
    +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1973 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1959 …}
    +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1927 …}
    +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2442 …}
    +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2440 …}
    +children: []
    -id: 1294
    -titleTs: "'2022':11 'best':1 'cloud':7 'googl':6 'non':5 'non-googl':4 'option':2 'storag':8"
    -bodyTs: "'-2':23 '/),':451 '/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':77 '/pricing)':123 '/pro)':173 '/support-experience/),':471 '1':22,337,497 '115':240 '2':509 '2tb':88,244 '350':94 '5tb':126 '70':290 '80/year':129 'afford':125 'also':387 'amazon':364 'android':208,333 'answer':495 'anti':179 'anti-googl':178 'anyway':534 'app':209,220,334 'appl':366 'ash':187 'attitud':183 'avoid':301,391 'bad':229,303,348,402,444 'best':8,134 'born':184 'box':406 'break':19 'built':191 'catastroph':275 'close':359 'cloud':9,540 'connect':203 'constraint':527 'correct':265,494 'could':282 'day':13 'deal':135 'death':361 'drap':362 'dropbox':324,404 'emphas':457 'encrypt':182,192 'enough':297,433 'even':33,216,331 'everyth':284,318 'exact':435 'expens':238 'explor':211 'failur':279 'far':73 'feel':5,286 'file':454 'free':307,313,338,379,481 'given':524 'go':353 'good':147,375,432,441,459,490 'googl':180,320,363 'govern':460 'guy':148,304,349,403,442,445,491 'halfway':34 'hear':228 'homebrew':248,259 'ident':140 'idriv':120 'imit':400 'independ':474 'integr':356 'interfac':108 'intrigu':78 'kinda':398 'kinda-sorta':397 'know':103,115 'knowledg':195 'labor':273 'lemmi':3 'lifetim':85 'like':38,175,261,287,426,447 'linod':468 'linux':480 'long':163,419 'long-term':162 'longev':463 'lose':283 'lot':98 'love':106,199,478 'm':27,67,154,289,352,383,409,511,530 'magic':501 'make':161 'mayb':64 'mean':152 'mediafir':326,405 'mega':170,219,328 'mega.io':172 'mega.io/pro)':171 'megaupload':189 'microsoft':365 'might':131 'mind':42 'mission':477 'much':269,413,514 'need':50,217 'netflix':60 'never':505 'nextcloud':262,521 'noth':137,430 'offer':336 'onedr':322 'option':11 'pay':82 'pcloud':74 'peac':40 'per':241 'perfect':502 'person':246 'plan':86,169 'point':277 'potenti':44 'prefer':389 'pretti':237 'price':61 'principl':461 'privaci':458 'probabl':31,492,519 'product':385 'promis':165,421 'put':531 'quit':253 'rang':25,62 're':428 'readi':68 'realli':16 'say':429 'sens':475 'servic':380,466 'setup':260 'singl':276 'smart':296 'softwar':482 'solid':210 'someth':57,65,345,392,439,446 'sorta':399 'sound':425 'sourc':360,503 'space':47 'specif':168,418 'standardnot':448 'standardnotes.com':450 'standardnotes.com/),':449 'storag':10,90,455,541 'stuff':249,308 'subscrib':55 'suggest':141 'super':124 'sure':156,411 'syncth':264,523 'tb':24 'tell':486 'term':164,271,420 'terrabyt':339 'therefor':213 'thing':230 'think':54,512 'though':233 'thought':71,506,538 'thoughts/reasoning/caveats':247 'too-good-to-be-tru':373 'tri':311 'true':378 'trust':118,158,254,416 'upkeep':274 'upstart':395 'usabl':110 'use':257 've':310 'version':314 'want':17,225,344,371,438 'way':293 'would':388 'www.idrive.com':122 'www.idrive.com/pricing)':121 'www.linode.com':470 'www.linode.com/support-experience/),':469 'www.pcloud.com':76 'www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':75 'year':242 'yet':30 'zero':194"
    +cross: false
    +upVotes: 0
    +downVotes: 0
    +ranking: 1642260128
    +visibility: "visible             "
    +apId: "https://lemmy.ml/post/149005"
    +editedAt: null
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1642173728 {#1793
      date: 2022-01-14 16:22:08.0 +01:00
    }
  }
  +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
  +image: null
  +parent: null
  +root: null
  +body: "I’ve used pCloud for three years. Initially it is a lot, especially if you’re not sure if you will commit to them, but if you do, you have one less hidden big expenditure masked as subscription, which nowadays is valuable. I wish they released their Linux version through Flatpak and not Appimage, though"
  +lang: "en"
  +isAdult: false
  +favouriteCount: 2
  +score: 0
  +lastActive: DateTime @1689465833 {#4363
    date: 2023-07-16 02:03:53.0 +02:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +tags: null
  +mentions: [
    "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
  ]
  +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4369 …}
  +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4371 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4373 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4375 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4377 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4379 …}
  -id: 18697
  -bodyTs: "'appimag':54 'big':34 'commit':22 'especi':13 'expenditur':35 'flatpak':51 'hidden':33 'initi':8 'less':32 'linux':48 'lot':12 'mask':36 'nowaday':40 'one':31 'pcloud':4 're':16 'releas':46 'subscript':38 'sure':18 'though':55 'three':6 'use':3 'valuabl':42 've':2 'version':49 'wish':44 'year':7"
  +ranking: 0
  +commentCount: 0
  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://feddit.it/comment/959039"
  +editedAt: null
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689452196 {#4364
    date: 2023-07-15 22:16:36.0 +02:00
  }
}
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
44 DENIED moderate 
App\Entity\EntryComment {#4368
  +user: App\Entity\User {#4381 …}
  +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419
    +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#1970 …}
    +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265
      +icon: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#246 …}
      +name: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +title: "asklemmy"
      +description: """
        A loosely moderated place to ask open-ended questions\n
        \n
        **[Search asklemmy](https://lemmy.ml/search?q=&type=Posts&listingType=All&communityId=8&page=1&sort=TopAll) 🔍**\n
        \n
        If your post meets the following criteria, it’s welcome here!\n
        \n
        1. Open-ended\n
        2. Not offensive: at this point, we do not have the bandwidth to moderate overtly political discussions\n
        3. **Not regarding using or support for Lemmy**: [context](https://lemmy.ml/post/1223478), find help in the list of support alternatives below\n
        4. Not ad nauseam inducing: please make sure it is a question that would be new to most members\n
        5. [An actual topic of discussion](https://lemmy.ml/post/1239589)\n
        \n
        Support alternatives:\n
        \n
        - [!lemmy_support@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/lemmy_support)\n
        - [!nostupidlemmyquestions@lemmy.dbzer0.com](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/nostupidlemmyquestions)\n
        - [!selfhosted@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/selfhosted)\n
        \n
        ~Icon~ ~by~ ~@Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de~
        """
      +rules: null
      +subscriptionsCount: 0
      +entryCount: 580
      +entryCommentCount: 15558
      +postCount: 7
      +postCommentCount: 129
      +isAdult: false
      +customCss: null
      +lastActive: DateTime @1689748304 {#275
        date: 2023-07-19 08:31:44.0 +02:00
      }
      +markedForDeletionAt: null
      +tags: null
      +moderators: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#237 …}
      +ownershipRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#233 …}
      +moderatorRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#222 …}
      +entries: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#180 …}
      +posts: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#138 …}
      +subscriptions: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#200 …}
      +bans: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#117 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#103 …}
      +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#81 …}
      +logs: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#71 …}
      +awards: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1346 …}
      +categories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1823 …}
      -id: 9
      +apId: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +apProfileId: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apPublicUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apFollowersUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy/followers"
      +apInboxUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/inbox"
      +apDomain: "lemmy.ml"
      +apPreferredUsername: "asklemmy"
      +apDiscoverable: true
      +apManuallyApprovesFollowers: null
      +privateKey: null
      +publicKey: null
      +apFetchedAt: DateTime @1689747596 {#269
        date: 2023-07-19 08:19:56.0 +02:00
      }
      +apDeletedAt: null
      +apTimeoutAt: null
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1686889707 {#271
        date: 2023-06-16 06:28:27.0 +02:00
      }
    }
    +image: null
    +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#1915 …}
    +slug: "Best-options-for-Non-Google-cloud-storage-as-of-2022"
    +title: "Best options for Non-Google cloud storage as of 2022?"
    +url: null
    +body: """
      What are Lemmy’s feelings about the best cloud storage options these days, if you really want to break into the 1-2TB range? I’m not there yet, probably not even halfway there, but I like the peace of mind of potentially having the space if I need it. And I think subscribing to something in the Netflix price range is maybe something I’m ready for.\n
      \n
      My thoughts so far:\n
      \n
      [pcloud](https://www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime) - Intriguing because you can pay for a “lifetime” plan of 2TB of storage. But it’s $350, which is a lot, and I don’t know that I love the interface or usability, and I don’t know if I trust them.\n
      \n
      [iDrive](https://www.idrive.com/pricing) - Super affordable. 5tb for “just” $80/year. It might be the best deal, but nothing about their identity suggests to me that they are “good guys.” By which I mean, I’m not sure I trust them to make long-term promises for any specific plan.\n
      \n
      [Mega](https://mega.io/pro) - I like its very anti-google, very encrypted attitude. Born from the ashes of megaupload, they built encryption and zero knowledge into it. I LOVE that you can connect to it through the android app Solid Explorer and therefore don’t even need the mega app if you don’t want it. I hear bad things about it though? And it’s pretty expensive at $115 per year for 2TB.\n
      \n
      My personal thoughts/reasoning/caveats:\n
      \n
      **Homebrew stuff**: I don’t *quite* trust myself to use a homebrew setup like Nextcloud or Syncthing correctly. There’s too much in terms of labor, upkeep, catastrophic single points of failure where you could lose everything. I feel like I’m 70% of the way to being smart enough to do this.\n
      \n
      **Avoiding the Bad Guys and the Free Stuff**: I’ve tried the free version of just about everything, from Google to Onedrive to Dropbox to Mediafire to Mega. There’s even an android app that offers 1 free terrabyte?? But I don’t want something from the bad guys where I’m going to be integrated into their closed source death drap: Google, Amazon, Microsoft, Apple, and I don’t want a too-good-to-be-true free service where I’m the product.\n
      \n
      I also would prefer to avoid something from the upstarts who kinda-sorta imitate the bad guys: Dropbox, Mediafire, Box. Because I’m not sure how much I can trust any specific long term promise from them.\n
      \n
      **It sounds like you’re saying nothing is good enough! What exactly do you want!?** Something from good guys, not bad guys. Something like [Standardnotes](https://standardnotes.com/), but for file storage. They emphasize privacy, good governance principles and longevity of their service. Or [Linode](https://www.linode.com/support-experience/), with their independence, sense of mission, love of Linux & free software, all of which tells me they are good guys.\n
      \n
      Probably the correct answer is (1) here’s this magical perfect source I never thought of, or (2) I’m thinking this much about it, I should probably do Nextcloud or syncthing given all the constraints that I’m putting out there.\n
      \n
      Anyway, that’s my thoughts on cloud storage. What are yours?
      """
    +type: "article"
    +lang: "en"
    +isOc: false
    +hasEmbed: false
    +commentCount: 25
    +favouriteCount: 41
    +score: 0
    +isAdult: false
    +sticky: false
    +lastActive: DateTime @1689719793 {#2414
      date: 2023-07-19 00:36:33.0 +02:00
    }
    +ip: null
    +adaAmount: 0
    +tags: null
    +mentions: null
    +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1884 …}
    +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1973 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1959 …}
    +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1927 …}
    +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2442 …}
    +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2440 …}
    +children: []
    -id: 1294
    -titleTs: "'2022':11 'best':1 'cloud':7 'googl':6 'non':5 'non-googl':4 'option':2 'storag':8"
    -bodyTs: "'-2':23 '/),':451 '/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':77 '/pricing)':123 '/pro)':173 '/support-experience/),':471 '1':22,337,497 '115':240 '2':509 '2tb':88,244 '350':94 '5tb':126 '70':290 '80/year':129 'afford':125 'also':387 'amazon':364 'android':208,333 'answer':495 'anti':179 'anti-googl':178 'anyway':534 'app':209,220,334 'appl':366 'ash':187 'attitud':183 'avoid':301,391 'bad':229,303,348,402,444 'best':8,134 'born':184 'box':406 'break':19 'built':191 'catastroph':275 'close':359 'cloud':9,540 'connect':203 'constraint':527 'correct':265,494 'could':282 'day':13 'deal':135 'death':361 'drap':362 'dropbox':324,404 'emphas':457 'encrypt':182,192 'enough':297,433 'even':33,216,331 'everyth':284,318 'exact':435 'expens':238 'explor':211 'failur':279 'far':73 'feel':5,286 'file':454 'free':307,313,338,379,481 'given':524 'go':353 'good':147,375,432,441,459,490 'googl':180,320,363 'govern':460 'guy':148,304,349,403,442,445,491 'halfway':34 'hear':228 'homebrew':248,259 'ident':140 'idriv':120 'imit':400 'independ':474 'integr':356 'interfac':108 'intrigu':78 'kinda':398 'kinda-sorta':397 'know':103,115 'knowledg':195 'labor':273 'lemmi':3 'lifetim':85 'like':38,175,261,287,426,447 'linod':468 'linux':480 'long':163,419 'long-term':162 'longev':463 'lose':283 'lot':98 'love':106,199,478 'm':27,67,154,289,352,383,409,511,530 'magic':501 'make':161 'mayb':64 'mean':152 'mediafir':326,405 'mega':170,219,328 'mega.io':172 'mega.io/pro)':171 'megaupload':189 'microsoft':365 'might':131 'mind':42 'mission':477 'much':269,413,514 'need':50,217 'netflix':60 'never':505 'nextcloud':262,521 'noth':137,430 'offer':336 'onedr':322 'option':11 'pay':82 'pcloud':74 'peac':40 'per':241 'perfect':502 'person':246 'plan':86,169 'point':277 'potenti':44 'prefer':389 'pretti':237 'price':61 'principl':461 'privaci':458 'probabl':31,492,519 'product':385 'promis':165,421 'put':531 'quit':253 'rang':25,62 're':428 'readi':68 'realli':16 'say':429 'sens':475 'servic':380,466 'setup':260 'singl':276 'smart':296 'softwar':482 'solid':210 'someth':57,65,345,392,439,446 'sorta':399 'sound':425 'sourc':360,503 'space':47 'specif':168,418 'standardnot':448 'standardnotes.com':450 'standardnotes.com/),':449 'storag':10,90,455,541 'stuff':249,308 'subscrib':55 'suggest':141 'super':124 'sure':156,411 'syncth':264,523 'tb':24 'tell':486 'term':164,271,420 'terrabyt':339 'therefor':213 'thing':230 'think':54,512 'though':233 'thought':71,506,538 'thoughts/reasoning/caveats':247 'too-good-to-be-tru':373 'tri':311 'true':378 'trust':118,158,254,416 'upkeep':274 'upstart':395 'usabl':110 'use':257 've':310 'version':314 'want':17,225,344,371,438 'way':293 'would':388 'www.idrive.com':122 'www.idrive.com/pricing)':121 'www.linode.com':470 'www.linode.com/support-experience/),':469 'www.pcloud.com':76 'www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':75 'year':242 'yet':30 'zero':194"
    +cross: false
    +upVotes: 0
    +downVotes: 0
    +ranking: 1642260128
    +visibility: "visible             "
    +apId: "https://lemmy.ml/post/149005"
    +editedAt: null
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1642173728 {#1793
      date: 2022-01-14 16:22:08.0 +01:00
    }
  }
  +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
  +image: null
  +parent: null
  +root: null
  +body: "I’ve used pCloud for three years. Initially it is a lot, especially if you’re not sure if you will commit to them, but if you do, you have one less hidden big expenditure masked as subscription, which nowadays is valuable. I wish they released their Linux version through Flatpak and not Appimage, though"
  +lang: "en"
  +isAdult: false
  +favouriteCount: 2
  +score: 0
  +lastActive: DateTime @1689465833 {#4363
    date: 2023-07-16 02:03:53.0 +02:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +tags: null
  +mentions: [
    "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
  ]
  +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4369 …}
  +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4371 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4373 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4375 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4377 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4379 …}
  -id: 18697
  -bodyTs: "'appimag':54 'big':34 'commit':22 'especi':13 'expenditur':35 'flatpak':51 'hidden':33 'initi':8 'less':32 'linux':48 'lot':12 'mask':36 'nowaday':40 'one':31 'pcloud':4 're':16 'releas':46 'subscript':38 'sure':18 'though':55 'three':6 'use':3 'valuabl':42 've':2 'version':49 'wish':44 'year':7"
  +ranking: 0
  +commentCount: 0
  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://feddit.it/comment/959039"
  +editedAt: null
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689452196 {#4364
    date: 2023-07-15 22:16:36.0 +02:00
  }
}
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
45 DENIED ROLE_USER 
null
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
46 DENIED moderate 
App\Entity\EntryComment {#4960
  +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#4894 …}
  +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419
    +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#1970 …}
    +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265
      +icon: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#246 …}
      +name: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +title: "asklemmy"
      +description: """
        A loosely moderated place to ask open-ended questions\n
        \n
        **[Search asklemmy](https://lemmy.ml/search?q=&type=Posts&listingType=All&communityId=8&page=1&sort=TopAll) 🔍**\n
        \n
        If your post meets the following criteria, it’s welcome here!\n
        \n
        1. Open-ended\n
        2. Not offensive: at this point, we do not have the bandwidth to moderate overtly political discussions\n
        3. **Not regarding using or support for Lemmy**: [context](https://lemmy.ml/post/1223478), find help in the list of support alternatives below\n
        4. Not ad nauseam inducing: please make sure it is a question that would be new to most members\n
        5. [An actual topic of discussion](https://lemmy.ml/post/1239589)\n
        \n
        Support alternatives:\n
        \n
        - [!lemmy_support@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/lemmy_support)\n
        - [!nostupidlemmyquestions@lemmy.dbzer0.com](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/nostupidlemmyquestions)\n
        - [!selfhosted@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/selfhosted)\n
        \n
        ~Icon~ ~by~ ~@Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de~
        """
      +rules: null
      +subscriptionsCount: 0
      +entryCount: 580
      +entryCommentCount: 15558
      +postCount: 7
      +postCommentCount: 129
      +isAdult: false
      +customCss: null
      +lastActive: DateTime @1689748304 {#275
        date: 2023-07-19 08:31:44.0 +02:00
      }
      +markedForDeletionAt: null
      +tags: null
      +moderators: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#237 …}
      +ownershipRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#233 …}
      +moderatorRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#222 …}
      +entries: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#180 …}
      +posts: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#138 …}
      +subscriptions: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#200 …}
      +bans: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#117 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#103 …}
      +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#81 …}
      +logs: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#71 …}
      +awards: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1346 …}
      +categories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1823 …}
      -id: 9
      +apId: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +apProfileId: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apPublicUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apFollowersUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy/followers"
      +apInboxUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/inbox"
      +apDomain: "lemmy.ml"
      +apPreferredUsername: "asklemmy"
      +apDiscoverable: true
      +apManuallyApprovesFollowers: null
      +privateKey: null
      +publicKey: null
      +apFetchedAt: DateTime @1689747596 {#269
        date: 2023-07-19 08:19:56.0 +02:00
      }
      +apDeletedAt: null
      +apTimeoutAt: null
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1686889707 {#271
        date: 2023-06-16 06:28:27.0 +02:00
      }
    }
    +image: null
    +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#1915 …}
    +slug: "Best-options-for-Non-Google-cloud-storage-as-of-2022"
    +title: "Best options for Non-Google cloud storage as of 2022?"
    +url: null
    +body: """
      What are Lemmy’s feelings about the best cloud storage options these days, if you really want to break into the 1-2TB range? I’m not there yet, probably not even halfway there, but I like the peace of mind of potentially having the space if I need it. And I think subscribing to something in the Netflix price range is maybe something I’m ready for.\n
      \n
      My thoughts so far:\n
      \n
      [pcloud](https://www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime) - Intriguing because you can pay for a “lifetime” plan of 2TB of storage. But it’s $350, which is a lot, and I don’t know that I love the interface or usability, and I don’t know if I trust them.\n
      \n
      [iDrive](https://www.idrive.com/pricing) - Super affordable. 5tb for “just” $80/year. It might be the best deal, but nothing about their identity suggests to me that they are “good guys.” By which I mean, I’m not sure I trust them to make long-term promises for any specific plan.\n
      \n
      [Mega](https://mega.io/pro) - I like its very anti-google, very encrypted attitude. Born from the ashes of megaupload, they built encryption and zero knowledge into it. I LOVE that you can connect to it through the android app Solid Explorer and therefore don’t even need the mega app if you don’t want it. I hear bad things about it though? And it’s pretty expensive at $115 per year for 2TB.\n
      \n
      My personal thoughts/reasoning/caveats:\n
      \n
      **Homebrew stuff**: I don’t *quite* trust myself to use a homebrew setup like Nextcloud or Syncthing correctly. There’s too much in terms of labor, upkeep, catastrophic single points of failure where you could lose everything. I feel like I’m 70% of the way to being smart enough to do this.\n
      \n
      **Avoiding the Bad Guys and the Free Stuff**: I’ve tried the free version of just about everything, from Google to Onedrive to Dropbox to Mediafire to Mega. There’s even an android app that offers 1 free terrabyte?? But I don’t want something from the bad guys where I’m going to be integrated into their closed source death drap: Google, Amazon, Microsoft, Apple, and I don’t want a too-good-to-be-true free service where I’m the product.\n
      \n
      I also would prefer to avoid something from the upstarts who kinda-sorta imitate the bad guys: Dropbox, Mediafire, Box. Because I’m not sure how much I can trust any specific long term promise from them.\n
      \n
      **It sounds like you’re saying nothing is good enough! What exactly do you want!?** Something from good guys, not bad guys. Something like [Standardnotes](https://standardnotes.com/), but for file storage. They emphasize privacy, good governance principles and longevity of their service. Or [Linode](https://www.linode.com/support-experience/), with their independence, sense of mission, love of Linux & free software, all of which tells me they are good guys.\n
      \n
      Probably the correct answer is (1) here’s this magical perfect source I never thought of, or (2) I’m thinking this much about it, I should probably do Nextcloud or syncthing given all the constraints that I’m putting out there.\n
      \n
      Anyway, that’s my thoughts on cloud storage. What are yours?
      """
    +type: "article"
    +lang: "en"
    +isOc: false
    +hasEmbed: false
    +commentCount: 25
    +favouriteCount: 41
    +score: 0
    +isAdult: false
    +sticky: false
    +lastActive: DateTime @1689719793 {#2414
      date: 2023-07-19 00:36:33.0 +02:00
    }
    +ip: null
    +adaAmount: 0
    +tags: null
    +mentions: null
    +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1884 …}
    +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1973 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1959 …}
    +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1927 …}
    +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2442 …}
    +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2440 …}
    +children: []
    -id: 1294
    -titleTs: "'2022':11 'best':1 'cloud':7 'googl':6 'non':5 'non-googl':4 'option':2 'storag':8"
    -bodyTs: "'-2':23 '/),':451 '/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':77 '/pricing)':123 '/pro)':173 '/support-experience/),':471 '1':22,337,497 '115':240 '2':509 '2tb':88,244 '350':94 '5tb':126 '70':290 '80/year':129 'afford':125 'also':387 'amazon':364 'android':208,333 'answer':495 'anti':179 'anti-googl':178 'anyway':534 'app':209,220,334 'appl':366 'ash':187 'attitud':183 'avoid':301,391 'bad':229,303,348,402,444 'best':8,134 'born':184 'box':406 'break':19 'built':191 'catastroph':275 'close':359 'cloud':9,540 'connect':203 'constraint':527 'correct':265,494 'could':282 'day':13 'deal':135 'death':361 'drap':362 'dropbox':324,404 'emphas':457 'encrypt':182,192 'enough':297,433 'even':33,216,331 'everyth':284,318 'exact':435 'expens':238 'explor':211 'failur':279 'far':73 'feel':5,286 'file':454 'free':307,313,338,379,481 'given':524 'go':353 'good':147,375,432,441,459,490 'googl':180,320,363 'govern':460 'guy':148,304,349,403,442,445,491 'halfway':34 'hear':228 'homebrew':248,259 'ident':140 'idriv':120 'imit':400 'independ':474 'integr':356 'interfac':108 'intrigu':78 'kinda':398 'kinda-sorta':397 'know':103,115 'knowledg':195 'labor':273 'lemmi':3 'lifetim':85 'like':38,175,261,287,426,447 'linod':468 'linux':480 'long':163,419 'long-term':162 'longev':463 'lose':283 'lot':98 'love':106,199,478 'm':27,67,154,289,352,383,409,511,530 'magic':501 'make':161 'mayb':64 'mean':152 'mediafir':326,405 'mega':170,219,328 'mega.io':172 'mega.io/pro)':171 'megaupload':189 'microsoft':365 'might':131 'mind':42 'mission':477 'much':269,413,514 'need':50,217 'netflix':60 'never':505 'nextcloud':262,521 'noth':137,430 'offer':336 'onedr':322 'option':11 'pay':82 'pcloud':74 'peac':40 'per':241 'perfect':502 'person':246 'plan':86,169 'point':277 'potenti':44 'prefer':389 'pretti':237 'price':61 'principl':461 'privaci':458 'probabl':31,492,519 'product':385 'promis':165,421 'put':531 'quit':253 'rang':25,62 're':428 'readi':68 'realli':16 'say':429 'sens':475 'servic':380,466 'setup':260 'singl':276 'smart':296 'softwar':482 'solid':210 'someth':57,65,345,392,439,446 'sorta':399 'sound':425 'sourc':360,503 'space':47 'specif':168,418 'standardnot':448 'standardnotes.com':450 'standardnotes.com/),':449 'storag':10,90,455,541 'stuff':249,308 'subscrib':55 'suggest':141 'super':124 'sure':156,411 'syncth':264,523 'tb':24 'tell':486 'term':164,271,420 'terrabyt':339 'therefor':213 'thing':230 'think':54,512 'though':233 'thought':71,506,538 'thoughts/reasoning/caveats':247 'too-good-to-be-tru':373 'tri':311 'true':378 'trust':118,158,254,416 'upkeep':274 'upstart':395 'usabl':110 'use':257 've':310 'version':314 'want':17,225,344,371,438 'way':293 'would':388 'www.idrive.com':122 'www.idrive.com/pricing)':121 'www.linode.com':470 'www.linode.com/support-experience/),':469 'www.pcloud.com':76 'www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':75 'year':242 'yet':30 'zero':194"
    +cross: false
    +upVotes: 0
    +downVotes: 0
    +ranking: 1642260128
    +visibility: "visible             "
    +apId: "https://lemmy.ml/post/149005"
    +editedAt: null
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1642173728 {#1793
      date: 2022-01-14 16:22:08.0 +01:00
    }
  }
  +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
  +image: null
  +parent: App\Entity\EntryComment {#4368
    +user: App\Entity\User {#4381 …}
    +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419}
    +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
    +image: null
    +parent: null
    +root: null
    +body: "I’ve used pCloud for three years. Initially it is a lot, especially if you’re not sure if you will commit to them, but if you do, you have one less hidden big expenditure masked as subscription, which nowadays is valuable. I wish they released their Linux version through Flatpak and not Appimage, though"
    +lang: "en"
    +isAdult: false
    +favouriteCount: 2
    +score: 0
    +lastActive: DateTime @1689465833 {#4363
      date: 2023-07-16 02:03:53.0 +02:00
    }
    +ip: null
    +tags: null
    +mentions: [
      "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
    ]
    +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4369 …}
    +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4371 …}
    +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4373 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4375 …}
    +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4377 …}
    +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4379 …}
    -id: 18697
    -bodyTs: "'appimag':54 'big':34 'commit':22 'especi':13 'expenditur':35 'flatpak':51 'hidden':33 'initi':8 'less':32 'linux':48 'lot':12 'mask':36 'nowaday':40 'one':31 'pcloud':4 're':16 'releas':46 'subscript':38 'sure':18 'though':55 'three':6 'use':3 'valuabl':42 've':2 'version':49 'wish':44 'year':7"
    +ranking: 0
    +commentCount: 0
    +upVotes: 0
    +downVotes: 0
    +visibility: "visible             "
    +apId: "https://feddit.it/comment/959039"
    +editedAt: null
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689452196 {#4364
      date: 2023-07-15 22:16:36.0 +02:00
    }
  }
  +root: App\Entity\EntryComment {#4368}
  +body: "I saw something about them the other day and thought to myself there is no way this is real because they were offering something like 10tb for like 800 bucks. Lifetime sub. I guess they mostly count on people just not using anywhere near that much storage."
  +lang: "en"
  +isAdult: false
  +favouriteCount: 1
  +score: 0
  +lastActive: DateTime @1689465832 {#4958
    date: 2023-07-16 02:03:52.0 +02:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +tags: null
  +mentions: [
    "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
    "@RandomVanGloboii@feddit.it"
  ]
  +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4961 …}
  +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4963 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4965 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4967 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4969 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4971 …}
  -id: 19062
  -bodyTs: "'10tb':26 '800':29 'anywher':43 'buck':30 'count':37 'day':8 'guess':34 'lifetim':31 'like':25,28 'most':36 'much':46 'near':44 'offer':23 'peopl':39 'real':19 'saw':2 'someth':3,24 'storag':47 'sub':32 'thought':10 'use':42 'way':16"
  +ranking: 0
  +commentCount: 0
  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://lemdro.id/comment/370733"
  +editedAt: null
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689465832 {#4959
    date: 2023-07-16 02:03:52.0 +02:00
  }
}
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
47 DENIED edit 
App\Entity\EntryComment {#4960
  +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#4894 …}
  +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419
    +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#1970 …}
    +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265
      +icon: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#246 …}
      +name: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +title: "asklemmy"
      +description: """
        A loosely moderated place to ask open-ended questions\n
        \n
        **[Search asklemmy](https://lemmy.ml/search?q=&type=Posts&listingType=All&communityId=8&page=1&sort=TopAll) 🔍**\n
        \n
        If your post meets the following criteria, it’s welcome here!\n
        \n
        1. Open-ended\n
        2. Not offensive: at this point, we do not have the bandwidth to moderate overtly political discussions\n
        3. **Not regarding using or support for Lemmy**: [context](https://lemmy.ml/post/1223478), find help in the list of support alternatives below\n
        4. Not ad nauseam inducing: please make sure it is a question that would be new to most members\n
        5. [An actual topic of discussion](https://lemmy.ml/post/1239589)\n
        \n
        Support alternatives:\n
        \n
        - [!lemmy_support@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/lemmy_support)\n
        - [!nostupidlemmyquestions@lemmy.dbzer0.com](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/nostupidlemmyquestions)\n
        - [!selfhosted@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/selfhosted)\n
        \n
        ~Icon~ ~by~ ~@Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de~
        """
      +rules: null
      +subscriptionsCount: 0
      +entryCount: 580
      +entryCommentCount: 15558
      +postCount: 7
      +postCommentCount: 129
      +isAdult: false
      +customCss: null
      +lastActive: DateTime @1689748304 {#275
        date: 2023-07-19 08:31:44.0 +02:00
      }
      +markedForDeletionAt: null
      +tags: null
      +moderators: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#237 …}
      +ownershipRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#233 …}
      +moderatorRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#222 …}
      +entries: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#180 …}
      +posts: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#138 …}
      +subscriptions: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#200 …}
      +bans: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#117 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#103 …}
      +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#81 …}
      +logs: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#71 …}
      +awards: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1346 …}
      +categories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1823 …}
      -id: 9
      +apId: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +apProfileId: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apPublicUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apFollowersUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy/followers"
      +apInboxUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/inbox"
      +apDomain: "lemmy.ml"
      +apPreferredUsername: "asklemmy"
      +apDiscoverable: true
      +apManuallyApprovesFollowers: null
      +privateKey: null
      +publicKey: null
      +apFetchedAt: DateTime @1689747596 {#269
        date: 2023-07-19 08:19:56.0 +02:00
      }
      +apDeletedAt: null
      +apTimeoutAt: null
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1686889707 {#271
        date: 2023-06-16 06:28:27.0 +02:00
      }
    }
    +image: null
    +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#1915 …}
    +slug: "Best-options-for-Non-Google-cloud-storage-as-of-2022"
    +title: "Best options for Non-Google cloud storage as of 2022?"
    +url: null
    +body: """
      What are Lemmy’s feelings about the best cloud storage options these days, if you really want to break into the 1-2TB range? I’m not there yet, probably not even halfway there, but I like the peace of mind of potentially having the space if I need it. And I think subscribing to something in the Netflix price range is maybe something I’m ready for.\n
      \n
      My thoughts so far:\n
      \n
      [pcloud](https://www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime) - Intriguing because you can pay for a “lifetime” plan of 2TB of storage. But it’s $350, which is a lot, and I don’t know that I love the interface or usability, and I don’t know if I trust them.\n
      \n
      [iDrive](https://www.idrive.com/pricing) - Super affordable. 5tb for “just” $80/year. It might be the best deal, but nothing about their identity suggests to me that they are “good guys.” By which I mean, I’m not sure I trust them to make long-term promises for any specific plan.\n
      \n
      [Mega](https://mega.io/pro) - I like its very anti-google, very encrypted attitude. Born from the ashes of megaupload, they built encryption and zero knowledge into it. I LOVE that you can connect to it through the android app Solid Explorer and therefore don’t even need the mega app if you don’t want it. I hear bad things about it though? And it’s pretty expensive at $115 per year for 2TB.\n
      \n
      My personal thoughts/reasoning/caveats:\n
      \n
      **Homebrew stuff**: I don’t *quite* trust myself to use a homebrew setup like Nextcloud or Syncthing correctly. There’s too much in terms of labor, upkeep, catastrophic single points of failure where you could lose everything. I feel like I’m 70% of the way to being smart enough to do this.\n
      \n
      **Avoiding the Bad Guys and the Free Stuff**: I’ve tried the free version of just about everything, from Google to Onedrive to Dropbox to Mediafire to Mega. There’s even an android app that offers 1 free terrabyte?? But I don’t want something from the bad guys where I’m going to be integrated into their closed source death drap: Google, Amazon, Microsoft, Apple, and I don’t want a too-good-to-be-true free service where I’m the product.\n
      \n
      I also would prefer to avoid something from the upstarts who kinda-sorta imitate the bad guys: Dropbox, Mediafire, Box. Because I’m not sure how much I can trust any specific long term promise from them.\n
      \n
      **It sounds like you’re saying nothing is good enough! What exactly do you want!?** Something from good guys, not bad guys. Something like [Standardnotes](https://standardnotes.com/), but for file storage. They emphasize privacy, good governance principles and longevity of their service. Or [Linode](https://www.linode.com/support-experience/), with their independence, sense of mission, love of Linux & free software, all of which tells me they are good guys.\n
      \n
      Probably the correct answer is (1) here’s this magical perfect source I never thought of, or (2) I’m thinking this much about it, I should probably do Nextcloud or syncthing given all the constraints that I’m putting out there.\n
      \n
      Anyway, that’s my thoughts on cloud storage. What are yours?
      """
    +type: "article"
    +lang: "en"
    +isOc: false
    +hasEmbed: false
    +commentCount: 25
    +favouriteCount: 41
    +score: 0
    +isAdult: false
    +sticky: false
    +lastActive: DateTime @1689719793 {#2414
      date: 2023-07-19 00:36:33.0 +02:00
    }
    +ip: null
    +adaAmount: 0
    +tags: null
    +mentions: null
    +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1884 …}
    +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1973 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1959 …}
    +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1927 …}
    +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2442 …}
    +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2440 …}
    +children: []
    -id: 1294
    -titleTs: "'2022':11 'best':1 'cloud':7 'googl':6 'non':5 'non-googl':4 'option':2 'storag':8"
    -bodyTs: "'-2':23 '/),':451 '/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':77 '/pricing)':123 '/pro)':173 '/support-experience/),':471 '1':22,337,497 '115':240 '2':509 '2tb':88,244 '350':94 '5tb':126 '70':290 '80/year':129 'afford':125 'also':387 'amazon':364 'android':208,333 'answer':495 'anti':179 'anti-googl':178 'anyway':534 'app':209,220,334 'appl':366 'ash':187 'attitud':183 'avoid':301,391 'bad':229,303,348,402,444 'best':8,134 'born':184 'box':406 'break':19 'built':191 'catastroph':275 'close':359 'cloud':9,540 'connect':203 'constraint':527 'correct':265,494 'could':282 'day':13 'deal':135 'death':361 'drap':362 'dropbox':324,404 'emphas':457 'encrypt':182,192 'enough':297,433 'even':33,216,331 'everyth':284,318 'exact':435 'expens':238 'explor':211 'failur':279 'far':73 'feel':5,286 'file':454 'free':307,313,338,379,481 'given':524 'go':353 'good':147,375,432,441,459,490 'googl':180,320,363 'govern':460 'guy':148,304,349,403,442,445,491 'halfway':34 'hear':228 'homebrew':248,259 'ident':140 'idriv':120 'imit':400 'independ':474 'integr':356 'interfac':108 'intrigu':78 'kinda':398 'kinda-sorta':397 'know':103,115 'knowledg':195 'labor':273 'lemmi':3 'lifetim':85 'like':38,175,261,287,426,447 'linod':468 'linux':480 'long':163,419 'long-term':162 'longev':463 'lose':283 'lot':98 'love':106,199,478 'm':27,67,154,289,352,383,409,511,530 'magic':501 'make':161 'mayb':64 'mean':152 'mediafir':326,405 'mega':170,219,328 'mega.io':172 'mega.io/pro)':171 'megaupload':189 'microsoft':365 'might':131 'mind':42 'mission':477 'much':269,413,514 'need':50,217 'netflix':60 'never':505 'nextcloud':262,521 'noth':137,430 'offer':336 'onedr':322 'option':11 'pay':82 'pcloud':74 'peac':40 'per':241 'perfect':502 'person':246 'plan':86,169 'point':277 'potenti':44 'prefer':389 'pretti':237 'price':61 'principl':461 'privaci':458 'probabl':31,492,519 'product':385 'promis':165,421 'put':531 'quit':253 'rang':25,62 're':428 'readi':68 'realli':16 'say':429 'sens':475 'servic':380,466 'setup':260 'singl':276 'smart':296 'softwar':482 'solid':210 'someth':57,65,345,392,439,446 'sorta':399 'sound':425 'sourc':360,503 'space':47 'specif':168,418 'standardnot':448 'standardnotes.com':450 'standardnotes.com/),':449 'storag':10,90,455,541 'stuff':249,308 'subscrib':55 'suggest':141 'super':124 'sure':156,411 'syncth':264,523 'tb':24 'tell':486 'term':164,271,420 'terrabyt':339 'therefor':213 'thing':230 'think':54,512 'though':233 'thought':71,506,538 'thoughts/reasoning/caveats':247 'too-good-to-be-tru':373 'tri':311 'true':378 'trust':118,158,254,416 'upkeep':274 'upstart':395 'usabl':110 'use':257 've':310 'version':314 'want':17,225,344,371,438 'way':293 'would':388 'www.idrive.com':122 'www.idrive.com/pricing)':121 'www.linode.com':470 'www.linode.com/support-experience/),':469 'www.pcloud.com':76 'www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':75 'year':242 'yet':30 'zero':194"
    +cross: false
    +upVotes: 0
    +downVotes: 0
    +ranking: 1642260128
    +visibility: "visible             "
    +apId: "https://lemmy.ml/post/149005"
    +editedAt: null
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1642173728 {#1793
      date: 2022-01-14 16:22:08.0 +01:00
    }
  }
  +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
  +image: null
  +parent: App\Entity\EntryComment {#4368
    +user: App\Entity\User {#4381 …}
    +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419}
    +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
    +image: null
    +parent: null
    +root: null
    +body: "I’ve used pCloud for three years. Initially it is a lot, especially if you’re not sure if you will commit to them, but if you do, you have one less hidden big expenditure masked as subscription, which nowadays is valuable. I wish they released their Linux version through Flatpak and not Appimage, though"
    +lang: "en"
    +isAdult: false
    +favouriteCount: 2
    +score: 0
    +lastActive: DateTime @1689465833 {#4363
      date: 2023-07-16 02:03:53.0 +02:00
    }
    +ip: null
    +tags: null
    +mentions: [
      "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
    ]
    +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4369 …}
    +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4371 …}
    +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4373 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4375 …}
    +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4377 …}
    +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4379 …}
    -id: 18697
    -bodyTs: "'appimag':54 'big':34 'commit':22 'especi':13 'expenditur':35 'flatpak':51 'hidden':33 'initi':8 'less':32 'linux':48 'lot':12 'mask':36 'nowaday':40 'one':31 'pcloud':4 're':16 'releas':46 'subscript':38 'sure':18 'though':55 'three':6 'use':3 'valuabl':42 've':2 'version':49 'wish':44 'year':7"
    +ranking: 0
    +commentCount: 0
    +upVotes: 0
    +downVotes: 0
    +visibility: "visible             "
    +apId: "https://feddit.it/comment/959039"
    +editedAt: null
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689452196 {#4364
      date: 2023-07-15 22:16:36.0 +02:00
    }
  }
  +root: App\Entity\EntryComment {#4368}
  +body: "I saw something about them the other day and thought to myself there is no way this is real because they were offering something like 10tb for like 800 bucks. Lifetime sub. I guess they mostly count on people just not using anywhere near that much storage."
  +lang: "en"
  +isAdult: false
  +favouriteCount: 1
  +score: 0
  +lastActive: DateTime @1689465832 {#4958
    date: 2023-07-16 02:03:52.0 +02:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +tags: null
  +mentions: [
    "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
    "@RandomVanGloboii@feddit.it"
  ]
  +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4961 …}
  +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4963 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4965 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4967 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4969 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4971 …}
  -id: 19062
  -bodyTs: "'10tb':26 '800':29 'anywher':43 'buck':30 'count':37 'day':8 'guess':34 'lifetim':31 'like':25,28 'most':36 'much':46 'near':44 'offer':23 'peopl':39 'real':19 'saw':2 'someth':3,24 'storag':47 'sub':32 'thought':10 'use':42 'way':16"
  +ranking: 0
  +commentCount: 0
  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://lemdro.id/comment/370733"
  +editedAt: null
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689465832 {#4959
    date: 2023-07-16 02:03:52.0 +02:00
  }
}
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
48 DENIED moderate 
App\Entity\EntryComment {#4960
  +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#4894 …}
  +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419
    +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#1970 …}
    +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265
      +icon: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#246 …}
      +name: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +title: "asklemmy"
      +description: """
        A loosely moderated place to ask open-ended questions\n
        \n
        **[Search asklemmy](https://lemmy.ml/search?q=&type=Posts&listingType=All&communityId=8&page=1&sort=TopAll) 🔍**\n
        \n
        If your post meets the following criteria, it’s welcome here!\n
        \n
        1. Open-ended\n
        2. Not offensive: at this point, we do not have the bandwidth to moderate overtly political discussions\n
        3. **Not regarding using or support for Lemmy**: [context](https://lemmy.ml/post/1223478), find help in the list of support alternatives below\n
        4. Not ad nauseam inducing: please make sure it is a question that would be new to most members\n
        5. [An actual topic of discussion](https://lemmy.ml/post/1239589)\n
        \n
        Support alternatives:\n
        \n
        - [!lemmy_support@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/lemmy_support)\n
        - [!nostupidlemmyquestions@lemmy.dbzer0.com](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/nostupidlemmyquestions)\n
        - [!selfhosted@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/selfhosted)\n
        \n
        ~Icon~ ~by~ ~@Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de~
        """
      +rules: null
      +subscriptionsCount: 0
      +entryCount: 580
      +entryCommentCount: 15558
      +postCount: 7
      +postCommentCount: 129
      +isAdult: false
      +customCss: null
      +lastActive: DateTime @1689748304 {#275
        date: 2023-07-19 08:31:44.0 +02:00
      }
      +markedForDeletionAt: null
      +tags: null
      +moderators: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#237 …}
      +ownershipRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#233 …}
      +moderatorRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#222 …}
      +entries: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#180 …}
      +posts: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#138 …}
      +subscriptions: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#200 …}
      +bans: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#117 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#103 …}
      +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#81 …}
      +logs: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#71 …}
      +awards: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1346 …}
      +categories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1823 …}
      -id: 9
      +apId: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +apProfileId: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apPublicUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apFollowersUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy/followers"
      +apInboxUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/inbox"
      +apDomain: "lemmy.ml"
      +apPreferredUsername: "asklemmy"
      +apDiscoverable: true
      +apManuallyApprovesFollowers: null
      +privateKey: null
      +publicKey: null
      +apFetchedAt: DateTime @1689747596 {#269
        date: 2023-07-19 08:19:56.0 +02:00
      }
      +apDeletedAt: null
      +apTimeoutAt: null
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1686889707 {#271
        date: 2023-06-16 06:28:27.0 +02:00
      }
    }
    +image: null
    +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#1915 …}
    +slug: "Best-options-for-Non-Google-cloud-storage-as-of-2022"
    +title: "Best options for Non-Google cloud storage as of 2022?"
    +url: null
    +body: """
      What are Lemmy’s feelings about the best cloud storage options these days, if you really want to break into the 1-2TB range? I’m not there yet, probably not even halfway there, but I like the peace of mind of potentially having the space if I need it. And I think subscribing to something in the Netflix price range is maybe something I’m ready for.\n
      \n
      My thoughts so far:\n
      \n
      [pcloud](https://www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime) - Intriguing because you can pay for a “lifetime” plan of 2TB of storage. But it’s $350, which is a lot, and I don’t know that I love the interface or usability, and I don’t know if I trust them.\n
      \n
      [iDrive](https://www.idrive.com/pricing) - Super affordable. 5tb for “just” $80/year. It might be the best deal, but nothing about their identity suggests to me that they are “good guys.” By which I mean, I’m not sure I trust them to make long-term promises for any specific plan.\n
      \n
      [Mega](https://mega.io/pro) - I like its very anti-google, very encrypted attitude. Born from the ashes of megaupload, they built encryption and zero knowledge into it. I LOVE that you can connect to it through the android app Solid Explorer and therefore don’t even need the mega app if you don’t want it. I hear bad things about it though? And it’s pretty expensive at $115 per year for 2TB.\n
      \n
      My personal thoughts/reasoning/caveats:\n
      \n
      **Homebrew stuff**: I don’t *quite* trust myself to use a homebrew setup like Nextcloud or Syncthing correctly. There’s too much in terms of labor, upkeep, catastrophic single points of failure where you could lose everything. I feel like I’m 70% of the way to being smart enough to do this.\n
      \n
      **Avoiding the Bad Guys and the Free Stuff**: I’ve tried the free version of just about everything, from Google to Onedrive to Dropbox to Mediafire to Mega. There’s even an android app that offers 1 free terrabyte?? But I don’t want something from the bad guys where I’m going to be integrated into their closed source death drap: Google, Amazon, Microsoft, Apple, and I don’t want a too-good-to-be-true free service where I’m the product.\n
      \n
      I also would prefer to avoid something from the upstarts who kinda-sorta imitate the bad guys: Dropbox, Mediafire, Box. Because I’m not sure how much I can trust any specific long term promise from them.\n
      \n
      **It sounds like you’re saying nothing is good enough! What exactly do you want!?** Something from good guys, not bad guys. Something like [Standardnotes](https://standardnotes.com/), but for file storage. They emphasize privacy, good governance principles and longevity of their service. Or [Linode](https://www.linode.com/support-experience/), with their independence, sense of mission, love of Linux & free software, all of which tells me they are good guys.\n
      \n
      Probably the correct answer is (1) here’s this magical perfect source I never thought of, or (2) I’m thinking this much about it, I should probably do Nextcloud or syncthing given all the constraints that I’m putting out there.\n
      \n
      Anyway, that’s my thoughts on cloud storage. What are yours?
      """
    +type: "article"
    +lang: "en"
    +isOc: false
    +hasEmbed: false
    +commentCount: 25
    +favouriteCount: 41
    +score: 0
    +isAdult: false
    +sticky: false
    +lastActive: DateTime @1689719793 {#2414
      date: 2023-07-19 00:36:33.0 +02:00
    }
    +ip: null
    +adaAmount: 0
    +tags: null
    +mentions: null
    +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1884 …}
    +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1973 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1959 …}
    +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1927 …}
    +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2442 …}
    +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2440 …}
    +children: []
    -id: 1294
    -titleTs: "'2022':11 'best':1 'cloud':7 'googl':6 'non':5 'non-googl':4 'option':2 'storag':8"
    -bodyTs: "'-2':23 '/),':451 '/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':77 '/pricing)':123 '/pro)':173 '/support-experience/),':471 '1':22,337,497 '115':240 '2':509 '2tb':88,244 '350':94 '5tb':126 '70':290 '80/year':129 'afford':125 'also':387 'amazon':364 'android':208,333 'answer':495 'anti':179 'anti-googl':178 'anyway':534 'app':209,220,334 'appl':366 'ash':187 'attitud':183 'avoid':301,391 'bad':229,303,348,402,444 'best':8,134 'born':184 'box':406 'break':19 'built':191 'catastroph':275 'close':359 'cloud':9,540 'connect':203 'constraint':527 'correct':265,494 'could':282 'day':13 'deal':135 'death':361 'drap':362 'dropbox':324,404 'emphas':457 'encrypt':182,192 'enough':297,433 'even':33,216,331 'everyth':284,318 'exact':435 'expens':238 'explor':211 'failur':279 'far':73 'feel':5,286 'file':454 'free':307,313,338,379,481 'given':524 'go':353 'good':147,375,432,441,459,490 'googl':180,320,363 'govern':460 'guy':148,304,349,403,442,445,491 'halfway':34 'hear':228 'homebrew':248,259 'ident':140 'idriv':120 'imit':400 'independ':474 'integr':356 'interfac':108 'intrigu':78 'kinda':398 'kinda-sorta':397 'know':103,115 'knowledg':195 'labor':273 'lemmi':3 'lifetim':85 'like':38,175,261,287,426,447 'linod':468 'linux':480 'long':163,419 'long-term':162 'longev':463 'lose':283 'lot':98 'love':106,199,478 'm':27,67,154,289,352,383,409,511,530 'magic':501 'make':161 'mayb':64 'mean':152 'mediafir':326,405 'mega':170,219,328 'mega.io':172 'mega.io/pro)':171 'megaupload':189 'microsoft':365 'might':131 'mind':42 'mission':477 'much':269,413,514 'need':50,217 'netflix':60 'never':505 'nextcloud':262,521 'noth':137,430 'offer':336 'onedr':322 'option':11 'pay':82 'pcloud':74 'peac':40 'per':241 'perfect':502 'person':246 'plan':86,169 'point':277 'potenti':44 'prefer':389 'pretti':237 'price':61 'principl':461 'privaci':458 'probabl':31,492,519 'product':385 'promis':165,421 'put':531 'quit':253 'rang':25,62 're':428 'readi':68 'realli':16 'say':429 'sens':475 'servic':380,466 'setup':260 'singl':276 'smart':296 'softwar':482 'solid':210 'someth':57,65,345,392,439,446 'sorta':399 'sound':425 'sourc':360,503 'space':47 'specif':168,418 'standardnot':448 'standardnotes.com':450 'standardnotes.com/),':449 'storag':10,90,455,541 'stuff':249,308 'subscrib':55 'suggest':141 'super':124 'sure':156,411 'syncth':264,523 'tb':24 'tell':486 'term':164,271,420 'terrabyt':339 'therefor':213 'thing':230 'think':54,512 'though':233 'thought':71,506,538 'thoughts/reasoning/caveats':247 'too-good-to-be-tru':373 'tri':311 'true':378 'trust':118,158,254,416 'upkeep':274 'upstart':395 'usabl':110 'use':257 've':310 'version':314 'want':17,225,344,371,438 'way':293 'would':388 'www.idrive.com':122 'www.idrive.com/pricing)':121 'www.linode.com':470 'www.linode.com/support-experience/),':469 'www.pcloud.com':76 'www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':75 'year':242 'yet':30 'zero':194"
    +cross: false
    +upVotes: 0
    +downVotes: 0
    +ranking: 1642260128
    +visibility: "visible             "
    +apId: "https://lemmy.ml/post/149005"
    +editedAt: null
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1642173728 {#1793
      date: 2022-01-14 16:22:08.0 +01:00
    }
  }
  +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
  +image: null
  +parent: App\Entity\EntryComment {#4368
    +user: App\Entity\User {#4381 …}
    +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419}
    +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
    +image: null
    +parent: null
    +root: null
    +body: "I’ve used pCloud for three years. Initially it is a lot, especially if you’re not sure if you will commit to them, but if you do, you have one less hidden big expenditure masked as subscription, which nowadays is valuable. I wish they released their Linux version through Flatpak and not Appimage, though"
    +lang: "en"
    +isAdult: false
    +favouriteCount: 2
    +score: 0
    +lastActive: DateTime @1689465833 {#4363
      date: 2023-07-16 02:03:53.0 +02:00
    }
    +ip: null
    +tags: null
    +mentions: [
      "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
    ]
    +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4369 …}
    +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4371 …}
    +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4373 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4375 …}
    +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4377 …}
    +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4379 …}
    -id: 18697
    -bodyTs: "'appimag':54 'big':34 'commit':22 'especi':13 'expenditur':35 'flatpak':51 'hidden':33 'initi':8 'less':32 'linux':48 'lot':12 'mask':36 'nowaday':40 'one':31 'pcloud':4 're':16 'releas':46 'subscript':38 'sure':18 'though':55 'three':6 'use':3 'valuabl':42 've':2 'version':49 'wish':44 'year':7"
    +ranking: 0
    +commentCount: 0
    +upVotes: 0
    +downVotes: 0
    +visibility: "visible             "
    +apId: "https://feddit.it/comment/959039"
    +editedAt: null
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689452196 {#4364
      date: 2023-07-15 22:16:36.0 +02:00
    }
  }
  +root: App\Entity\EntryComment {#4368}
  +body: "I saw something about them the other day and thought to myself there is no way this is real because they were offering something like 10tb for like 800 bucks. Lifetime sub. I guess they mostly count on people just not using anywhere near that much storage."
  +lang: "en"
  +isAdult: false
  +favouriteCount: 1
  +score: 0
  +lastActive: DateTime @1689465832 {#4958
    date: 2023-07-16 02:03:52.0 +02:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +tags: null
  +mentions: [
    "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
    "@RandomVanGloboii@feddit.it"
  ]
  +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4961 …}
  +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4963 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4965 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4967 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4969 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4971 …}
  -id: 19062
  -bodyTs: "'10tb':26 '800':29 'anywher':43 'buck':30 'count':37 'day':8 'guess':34 'lifetim':31 'like':25,28 'most':36 'much':46 'near':44 'offer':23 'peopl':39 'real':19 'saw':2 'someth':3,24 'storag':47 'sub':32 'thought':10 'use':42 'way':16"
  +ranking: 0
  +commentCount: 0
  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://lemdro.id/comment/370733"
  +editedAt: null
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689465832 {#4959
    date: 2023-07-16 02:03:52.0 +02:00
  }
}
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
49 DENIED ROLE_USER 
null
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
50 DENIED moderate 
App\Entity\EntryComment {#4443
  +user: App\Entity\User {#4456 …}
  +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419
    +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#1970 …}
    +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265
      +icon: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#246 …}
      +name: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +title: "asklemmy"
      +description: """
        A loosely moderated place to ask open-ended questions\n
        \n
        **[Search asklemmy](https://lemmy.ml/search?q=&type=Posts&listingType=All&communityId=8&page=1&sort=TopAll) 🔍**\n
        \n
        If your post meets the following criteria, it’s welcome here!\n
        \n
        1. Open-ended\n
        2. Not offensive: at this point, we do not have the bandwidth to moderate overtly political discussions\n
        3. **Not regarding using or support for Lemmy**: [context](https://lemmy.ml/post/1223478), find help in the list of support alternatives below\n
        4. Not ad nauseam inducing: please make sure it is a question that would be new to most members\n
        5. [An actual topic of discussion](https://lemmy.ml/post/1239589)\n
        \n
        Support alternatives:\n
        \n
        - [!lemmy_support@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/lemmy_support)\n
        - [!nostupidlemmyquestions@lemmy.dbzer0.com](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/nostupidlemmyquestions)\n
        - [!selfhosted@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/selfhosted)\n
        \n
        ~Icon~ ~by~ ~@Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de~
        """
      +rules: null
      +subscriptionsCount: 0
      +entryCount: 580
      +entryCommentCount: 15558
      +postCount: 7
      +postCommentCount: 129
      +isAdult: false
      +customCss: null
      +lastActive: DateTime @1689748304 {#275
        date: 2023-07-19 08:31:44.0 +02:00
      }
      +markedForDeletionAt: null
      +tags: null
      +moderators: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#237 …}
      +ownershipRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#233 …}
      +moderatorRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#222 …}
      +entries: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#180 …}
      +posts: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#138 …}
      +subscriptions: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#200 …}
      +bans: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#117 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#103 …}
      +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#81 …}
      +logs: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#71 …}
      +awards: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1346 …}
      +categories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1823 …}
      -id: 9
      +apId: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +apProfileId: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apPublicUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apFollowersUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy/followers"
      +apInboxUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/inbox"
      +apDomain: "lemmy.ml"
      +apPreferredUsername: "asklemmy"
      +apDiscoverable: true
      +apManuallyApprovesFollowers: null
      +privateKey: null
      +publicKey: null
      +apFetchedAt: DateTime @1689747596 {#269
        date: 2023-07-19 08:19:56.0 +02:00
      }
      +apDeletedAt: null
      +apTimeoutAt: null
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1686889707 {#271
        date: 2023-06-16 06:28:27.0 +02:00
      }
    }
    +image: null
    +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#1915 …}
    +slug: "Best-options-for-Non-Google-cloud-storage-as-of-2022"
    +title: "Best options for Non-Google cloud storage as of 2022?"
    +url: null
    +body: """
      What are Lemmy’s feelings about the best cloud storage options these days, if you really want to break into the 1-2TB range? I’m not there yet, probably not even halfway there, but I like the peace of mind of potentially having the space if I need it. And I think subscribing to something in the Netflix price range is maybe something I’m ready for.\n
      \n
      My thoughts so far:\n
      \n
      [pcloud](https://www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime) - Intriguing because you can pay for a “lifetime” plan of 2TB of storage. But it’s $350, which is a lot, and I don’t know that I love the interface or usability, and I don’t know if I trust them.\n
      \n
      [iDrive](https://www.idrive.com/pricing) - Super affordable. 5tb for “just” $80/year. It might be the best deal, but nothing about their identity suggests to me that they are “good guys.” By which I mean, I’m not sure I trust them to make long-term promises for any specific plan.\n
      \n
      [Mega](https://mega.io/pro) - I like its very anti-google, very encrypted attitude. Born from the ashes of megaupload, they built encryption and zero knowledge into it. I LOVE that you can connect to it through the android app Solid Explorer and therefore don’t even need the mega app if you don’t want it. I hear bad things about it though? And it’s pretty expensive at $115 per year for 2TB.\n
      \n
      My personal thoughts/reasoning/caveats:\n
      \n
      **Homebrew stuff**: I don’t *quite* trust myself to use a homebrew setup like Nextcloud or Syncthing correctly. There’s too much in terms of labor, upkeep, catastrophic single points of failure where you could lose everything. I feel like I’m 70% of the way to being smart enough to do this.\n
      \n
      **Avoiding the Bad Guys and the Free Stuff**: I’ve tried the free version of just about everything, from Google to Onedrive to Dropbox to Mediafire to Mega. There’s even an android app that offers 1 free terrabyte?? But I don’t want something from the bad guys where I’m going to be integrated into their closed source death drap: Google, Amazon, Microsoft, Apple, and I don’t want a too-good-to-be-true free service where I’m the product.\n
      \n
      I also would prefer to avoid something from the upstarts who kinda-sorta imitate the bad guys: Dropbox, Mediafire, Box. Because I’m not sure how much I can trust any specific long term promise from them.\n
      \n
      **It sounds like you’re saying nothing is good enough! What exactly do you want!?** Something from good guys, not bad guys. Something like [Standardnotes](https://standardnotes.com/), but for file storage. They emphasize privacy, good governance principles and longevity of their service. Or [Linode](https://www.linode.com/support-experience/), with their independence, sense of mission, love of Linux & free software, all of which tells me they are good guys.\n
      \n
      Probably the correct answer is (1) here’s this magical perfect source I never thought of, or (2) I’m thinking this much about it, I should probably do Nextcloud or syncthing given all the constraints that I’m putting out there.\n
      \n
      Anyway, that’s my thoughts on cloud storage. What are yours?
      """
    +type: "article"
    +lang: "en"
    +isOc: false
    +hasEmbed: false
    +commentCount: 25
    +favouriteCount: 41
    +score: 0
    +isAdult: false
    +sticky: false
    +lastActive: DateTime @1689719793 {#2414
      date: 2023-07-19 00:36:33.0 +02:00
    }
    +ip: null
    +adaAmount: 0
    +tags: null
    +mentions: null
    +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1884 …}
    +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1973 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1959 …}
    +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1927 …}
    +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2442 …}
    +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2440 …}
    +children: []
    -id: 1294
    -titleTs: "'2022':11 'best':1 'cloud':7 'googl':6 'non':5 'non-googl':4 'option':2 'storag':8"
    -bodyTs: "'-2':23 '/),':451 '/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':77 '/pricing)':123 '/pro)':173 '/support-experience/),':471 '1':22,337,497 '115':240 '2':509 '2tb':88,244 '350':94 '5tb':126 '70':290 '80/year':129 'afford':125 'also':387 'amazon':364 'android':208,333 'answer':495 'anti':179 'anti-googl':178 'anyway':534 'app':209,220,334 'appl':366 'ash':187 'attitud':183 'avoid':301,391 'bad':229,303,348,402,444 'best':8,134 'born':184 'box':406 'break':19 'built':191 'catastroph':275 'close':359 'cloud':9,540 'connect':203 'constraint':527 'correct':265,494 'could':282 'day':13 'deal':135 'death':361 'drap':362 'dropbox':324,404 'emphas':457 'encrypt':182,192 'enough':297,433 'even':33,216,331 'everyth':284,318 'exact':435 'expens':238 'explor':211 'failur':279 'far':73 'feel':5,286 'file':454 'free':307,313,338,379,481 'given':524 'go':353 'good':147,375,432,441,459,490 'googl':180,320,363 'govern':460 'guy':148,304,349,403,442,445,491 'halfway':34 'hear':228 'homebrew':248,259 'ident':140 'idriv':120 'imit':400 'independ':474 'integr':356 'interfac':108 'intrigu':78 'kinda':398 'kinda-sorta':397 'know':103,115 'knowledg':195 'labor':273 'lemmi':3 'lifetim':85 'like':38,175,261,287,426,447 'linod':468 'linux':480 'long':163,419 'long-term':162 'longev':463 'lose':283 'lot':98 'love':106,199,478 'm':27,67,154,289,352,383,409,511,530 'magic':501 'make':161 'mayb':64 'mean':152 'mediafir':326,405 'mega':170,219,328 'mega.io':172 'mega.io/pro)':171 'megaupload':189 'microsoft':365 'might':131 'mind':42 'mission':477 'much':269,413,514 'need':50,217 'netflix':60 'never':505 'nextcloud':262,521 'noth':137,430 'offer':336 'onedr':322 'option':11 'pay':82 'pcloud':74 'peac':40 'per':241 'perfect':502 'person':246 'plan':86,169 'point':277 'potenti':44 'prefer':389 'pretti':237 'price':61 'principl':461 'privaci':458 'probabl':31,492,519 'product':385 'promis':165,421 'put':531 'quit':253 'rang':25,62 're':428 'readi':68 'realli':16 'say':429 'sens':475 'servic':380,466 'setup':260 'singl':276 'smart':296 'softwar':482 'solid':210 'someth':57,65,345,392,439,446 'sorta':399 'sound':425 'sourc':360,503 'space':47 'specif':168,418 'standardnot':448 'standardnotes.com':450 'standardnotes.com/),':449 'storag':10,90,455,541 'stuff':249,308 'subscrib':55 'suggest':141 'super':124 'sure':156,411 'syncth':264,523 'tb':24 'tell':486 'term':164,271,420 'terrabyt':339 'therefor':213 'thing':230 'think':54,512 'though':233 'thought':71,506,538 'thoughts/reasoning/caveats':247 'too-good-to-be-tru':373 'tri':311 'true':378 'trust':118,158,254,416 'upkeep':274 'upstart':395 'usabl':110 'use':257 've':310 'version':314 'want':17,225,344,371,438 'way':293 'would':388 'www.idrive.com':122 'www.idrive.com/pricing)':121 'www.linode.com':470 'www.linode.com/support-experience/),':469 'www.pcloud.com':76 'www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':75 'year':242 'yet':30 'zero':194"
    +cross: false
    +upVotes: 0
    +downVotes: 0
    +ranking: 1642260128
    +visibility: "visible             "
    +apId: "https://lemmy.ml/post/149005"
    +editedAt: null
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1642173728 {#1793
      date: 2022-01-14 16:22:08.0 +01:00
    }
  }
  +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
  +image: null
  +parent: null
  +root: null
  +body: "I’m using free account on Mega. Had it for years, have my photos automagically back up there, still haven’t used all of the free storage. If that happens, I’ll probably subscribe there since it’s tested, familiar and safe. But there’s also [Proton Drive](https://proton.me/drive). Will compare both when I need it."
  +lang: "en"
  +isAdult: false
  +favouriteCount: 5
  +score: 0
  +lastActive: DateTime @1689440923 {#4438
    date: 2023-07-15 19:08:43.0 +02:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +tags: null
  +mentions: [
    "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
  ]
  +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4444 …}
  +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4446 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4448 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4450 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4452 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4454 …}
  -id: 18420
  -bodyTs: "'/drive).':51 'account':5 'also':46 'automag':15 'back':16 'compar':53 'drive':48 'familiar':40 'free':4,26 'happen':30 'haven':20 'll':32 'm':2 'mega':7 'need':57 'photo':14 'probabl':33 'proton':47 'proton.me':50 'proton.me/drive).':49 'safe':42 'sinc':36 'still':19 'storag':27 'subscrib':34 'test':39 'use':3,22 'year':11"
  +ranking: 0
  +commentCount: 0
  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://lemmy.zip/comment/881520"
  +editedAt: null
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689440923 {#4439
    date: 2023-07-15 19:08:43.0 +02:00
  }
}
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
51 DENIED edit 
App\Entity\EntryComment {#4443
  +user: App\Entity\User {#4456 …}
  +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419
    +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#1970 …}
    +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265
      +icon: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#246 …}
      +name: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +title: "asklemmy"
      +description: """
        A loosely moderated place to ask open-ended questions\n
        \n
        **[Search asklemmy](https://lemmy.ml/search?q=&type=Posts&listingType=All&communityId=8&page=1&sort=TopAll) 🔍**\n
        \n
        If your post meets the following criteria, it’s welcome here!\n
        \n
        1. Open-ended\n
        2. Not offensive: at this point, we do not have the bandwidth to moderate overtly political discussions\n
        3. **Not regarding using or support for Lemmy**: [context](https://lemmy.ml/post/1223478), find help in the list of support alternatives below\n
        4. Not ad nauseam inducing: please make sure it is a question that would be new to most members\n
        5. [An actual topic of discussion](https://lemmy.ml/post/1239589)\n
        \n
        Support alternatives:\n
        \n
        - [!lemmy_support@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/lemmy_support)\n
        - [!nostupidlemmyquestions@lemmy.dbzer0.com](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/nostupidlemmyquestions)\n
        - [!selfhosted@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/selfhosted)\n
        \n
        ~Icon~ ~by~ ~@Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de~
        """
      +rules: null
      +subscriptionsCount: 0
      +entryCount: 580
      +entryCommentCount: 15558
      +postCount: 7
      +postCommentCount: 129
      +isAdult: false
      +customCss: null
      +lastActive: DateTime @1689748304 {#275
        date: 2023-07-19 08:31:44.0 +02:00
      }
      +markedForDeletionAt: null
      +tags: null
      +moderators: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#237 …}
      +ownershipRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#233 …}
      +moderatorRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#222 …}
      +entries: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#180 …}
      +posts: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#138 …}
      +subscriptions: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#200 …}
      +bans: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#117 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#103 …}
      +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#81 …}
      +logs: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#71 …}
      +awards: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1346 …}
      +categories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1823 …}
      -id: 9
      +apId: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +apProfileId: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apPublicUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apFollowersUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy/followers"
      +apInboxUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/inbox"
      +apDomain: "lemmy.ml"
      +apPreferredUsername: "asklemmy"
      +apDiscoverable: true
      +apManuallyApprovesFollowers: null
      +privateKey: null
      +publicKey: null
      +apFetchedAt: DateTime @1689747596 {#269
        date: 2023-07-19 08:19:56.0 +02:00
      }
      +apDeletedAt: null
      +apTimeoutAt: null
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1686889707 {#271
        date: 2023-06-16 06:28:27.0 +02:00
      }
    }
    +image: null
    +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#1915 …}
    +slug: "Best-options-for-Non-Google-cloud-storage-as-of-2022"
    +title: "Best options for Non-Google cloud storage as of 2022?"
    +url: null
    +body: """
      What are Lemmy’s feelings about the best cloud storage options these days, if you really want to break into the 1-2TB range? I’m not there yet, probably not even halfway there, but I like the peace of mind of potentially having the space if I need it. And I think subscribing to something in the Netflix price range is maybe something I’m ready for.\n
      \n
      My thoughts so far:\n
      \n
      [pcloud](https://www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime) - Intriguing because you can pay for a “lifetime” plan of 2TB of storage. But it’s $350, which is a lot, and I don’t know that I love the interface or usability, and I don’t know if I trust them.\n
      \n
      [iDrive](https://www.idrive.com/pricing) - Super affordable. 5tb for “just” $80/year. It might be the best deal, but nothing about their identity suggests to me that they are “good guys.” By which I mean, I’m not sure I trust them to make long-term promises for any specific plan.\n
      \n
      [Mega](https://mega.io/pro) - I like its very anti-google, very encrypted attitude. Born from the ashes of megaupload, they built encryption and zero knowledge into it. I LOVE that you can connect to it through the android app Solid Explorer and therefore don’t even need the mega app if you don’t want it. I hear bad things about it though? And it’s pretty expensive at $115 per year for 2TB.\n
      \n
      My personal thoughts/reasoning/caveats:\n
      \n
      **Homebrew stuff**: I don’t *quite* trust myself to use a homebrew setup like Nextcloud or Syncthing correctly. There’s too much in terms of labor, upkeep, catastrophic single points of failure where you could lose everything. I feel like I’m 70% of the way to being smart enough to do this.\n
      \n
      **Avoiding the Bad Guys and the Free Stuff**: I’ve tried the free version of just about everything, from Google to Onedrive to Dropbox to Mediafire to Mega. There’s even an android app that offers 1 free terrabyte?? But I don’t want something from the bad guys where I’m going to be integrated into their closed source death drap: Google, Amazon, Microsoft, Apple, and I don’t want a too-good-to-be-true free service where I’m the product.\n
      \n
      I also would prefer to avoid something from the upstarts who kinda-sorta imitate the bad guys: Dropbox, Mediafire, Box. Because I’m not sure how much I can trust any specific long term promise from them.\n
      \n
      **It sounds like you’re saying nothing is good enough! What exactly do you want!?** Something from good guys, not bad guys. Something like [Standardnotes](https://standardnotes.com/), but for file storage. They emphasize privacy, good governance principles and longevity of their service. Or [Linode](https://www.linode.com/support-experience/), with their independence, sense of mission, love of Linux & free software, all of which tells me they are good guys.\n
      \n
      Probably the correct answer is (1) here’s this magical perfect source I never thought of, or (2) I’m thinking this much about it, I should probably do Nextcloud or syncthing given all the constraints that I’m putting out there.\n
      \n
      Anyway, that’s my thoughts on cloud storage. What are yours?
      """
    +type: "article"
    +lang: "en"
    +isOc: false
    +hasEmbed: false
    +commentCount: 25
    +favouriteCount: 41
    +score: 0
    +isAdult: false
    +sticky: false
    +lastActive: DateTime @1689719793 {#2414
      date: 2023-07-19 00:36:33.0 +02:00
    }
    +ip: null
    +adaAmount: 0
    +tags: null
    +mentions: null
    +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1884 …}
    +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1973 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1959 …}
    +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1927 …}
    +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2442 …}
    +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2440 …}
    +children: []
    -id: 1294
    -titleTs: "'2022':11 'best':1 'cloud':7 'googl':6 'non':5 'non-googl':4 'option':2 'storag':8"
    -bodyTs: "'-2':23 '/),':451 '/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':77 '/pricing)':123 '/pro)':173 '/support-experience/),':471 '1':22,337,497 '115':240 '2':509 '2tb':88,244 '350':94 '5tb':126 '70':290 '80/year':129 'afford':125 'also':387 'amazon':364 'android':208,333 'answer':495 'anti':179 'anti-googl':178 'anyway':534 'app':209,220,334 'appl':366 'ash':187 'attitud':183 'avoid':301,391 'bad':229,303,348,402,444 'best':8,134 'born':184 'box':406 'break':19 'built':191 'catastroph':275 'close':359 'cloud':9,540 'connect':203 'constraint':527 'correct':265,494 'could':282 'day':13 'deal':135 'death':361 'drap':362 'dropbox':324,404 'emphas':457 'encrypt':182,192 'enough':297,433 'even':33,216,331 'everyth':284,318 'exact':435 'expens':238 'explor':211 'failur':279 'far':73 'feel':5,286 'file':454 'free':307,313,338,379,481 'given':524 'go':353 'good':147,375,432,441,459,490 'googl':180,320,363 'govern':460 'guy':148,304,349,403,442,445,491 'halfway':34 'hear':228 'homebrew':248,259 'ident':140 'idriv':120 'imit':400 'independ':474 'integr':356 'interfac':108 'intrigu':78 'kinda':398 'kinda-sorta':397 'know':103,115 'knowledg':195 'labor':273 'lemmi':3 'lifetim':85 'like':38,175,261,287,426,447 'linod':468 'linux':480 'long':163,419 'long-term':162 'longev':463 'lose':283 'lot':98 'love':106,199,478 'm':27,67,154,289,352,383,409,511,530 'magic':501 'make':161 'mayb':64 'mean':152 'mediafir':326,405 'mega':170,219,328 'mega.io':172 'mega.io/pro)':171 'megaupload':189 'microsoft':365 'might':131 'mind':42 'mission':477 'much':269,413,514 'need':50,217 'netflix':60 'never':505 'nextcloud':262,521 'noth':137,430 'offer':336 'onedr':322 'option':11 'pay':82 'pcloud':74 'peac':40 'per':241 'perfect':502 'person':246 'plan':86,169 'point':277 'potenti':44 'prefer':389 'pretti':237 'price':61 'principl':461 'privaci':458 'probabl':31,492,519 'product':385 'promis':165,421 'put':531 'quit':253 'rang':25,62 're':428 'readi':68 'realli':16 'say':429 'sens':475 'servic':380,466 'setup':260 'singl':276 'smart':296 'softwar':482 'solid':210 'someth':57,65,345,392,439,446 'sorta':399 'sound':425 'sourc':360,503 'space':47 'specif':168,418 'standardnot':448 'standardnotes.com':450 'standardnotes.com/),':449 'storag':10,90,455,541 'stuff':249,308 'subscrib':55 'suggest':141 'super':124 'sure':156,411 'syncth':264,523 'tb':24 'tell':486 'term':164,271,420 'terrabyt':339 'therefor':213 'thing':230 'think':54,512 'though':233 'thought':71,506,538 'thoughts/reasoning/caveats':247 'too-good-to-be-tru':373 'tri':311 'true':378 'trust':118,158,254,416 'upkeep':274 'upstart':395 'usabl':110 'use':257 've':310 'version':314 'want':17,225,344,371,438 'way':293 'would':388 'www.idrive.com':122 'www.idrive.com/pricing)':121 'www.linode.com':470 'www.linode.com/support-experience/),':469 'www.pcloud.com':76 'www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':75 'year':242 'yet':30 'zero':194"
    +cross: false
    +upVotes: 0
    +downVotes: 0
    +ranking: 1642260128
    +visibility: "visible             "
    +apId: "https://lemmy.ml/post/149005"
    +editedAt: null
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1642173728 {#1793
      date: 2022-01-14 16:22:08.0 +01:00
    }
  }
  +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
  +image: null
  +parent: null
  +root: null
  +body: "I’m using free account on Mega. Had it for years, have my photos automagically back up there, still haven’t used all of the free storage. If that happens, I’ll probably subscribe there since it’s tested, familiar and safe. But there’s also [Proton Drive](https://proton.me/drive). Will compare both when I need it."
  +lang: "en"
  +isAdult: false
  +favouriteCount: 5
  +score: 0
  +lastActive: DateTime @1689440923 {#4438
    date: 2023-07-15 19:08:43.0 +02:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +tags: null
  +mentions: [
    "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
  ]
  +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4444 …}
  +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4446 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4448 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4450 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4452 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4454 …}
  -id: 18420
  -bodyTs: "'/drive).':51 'account':5 'also':46 'automag':15 'back':16 'compar':53 'drive':48 'familiar':40 'free':4,26 'happen':30 'haven':20 'll':32 'm':2 'mega':7 'need':57 'photo':14 'probabl':33 'proton':47 'proton.me':50 'proton.me/drive).':49 'safe':42 'sinc':36 'still':19 'storag':27 'subscrib':34 'test':39 'use':3,22 'year':11"
  +ranking: 0
  +commentCount: 0
  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://lemmy.zip/comment/881520"
  +editedAt: null
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689440923 {#4439
    date: 2023-07-15 19:08:43.0 +02:00
  }
}
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
52 DENIED moderate 
App\Entity\EntryComment {#4443
  +user: App\Entity\User {#4456 …}
  +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419
    +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#1970 …}
    +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265
      +icon: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#246 …}
      +name: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +title: "asklemmy"
      +description: """
        A loosely moderated place to ask open-ended questions\n
        \n
        **[Search asklemmy](https://lemmy.ml/search?q=&type=Posts&listingType=All&communityId=8&page=1&sort=TopAll) 🔍**\n
        \n
        If your post meets the following criteria, it’s welcome here!\n
        \n
        1. Open-ended\n
        2. Not offensive: at this point, we do not have the bandwidth to moderate overtly political discussions\n
        3. **Not regarding using or support for Lemmy**: [context](https://lemmy.ml/post/1223478), find help in the list of support alternatives below\n
        4. Not ad nauseam inducing: please make sure it is a question that would be new to most members\n
        5. [An actual topic of discussion](https://lemmy.ml/post/1239589)\n
        \n
        Support alternatives:\n
        \n
        - [!lemmy_support@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/lemmy_support)\n
        - [!nostupidlemmyquestions@lemmy.dbzer0.com](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/nostupidlemmyquestions)\n
        - [!selfhosted@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/selfhosted)\n
        \n
        ~Icon~ ~by~ ~@Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de~
        """
      +rules: null
      +subscriptionsCount: 0
      +entryCount: 580
      +entryCommentCount: 15558
      +postCount: 7
      +postCommentCount: 129
      +isAdult: false
      +customCss: null
      +lastActive: DateTime @1689748304 {#275
        date: 2023-07-19 08:31:44.0 +02:00
      }
      +markedForDeletionAt: null
      +tags: null
      +moderators: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#237 …}
      +ownershipRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#233 …}
      +moderatorRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#222 …}
      +entries: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#180 …}
      +posts: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#138 …}
      +subscriptions: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#200 …}
      +bans: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#117 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#103 …}
      +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#81 …}
      +logs: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#71 …}
      +awards: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1346 …}
      +categories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1823 …}
      -id: 9
      +apId: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +apProfileId: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apPublicUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apFollowersUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy/followers"
      +apInboxUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/inbox"
      +apDomain: "lemmy.ml"
      +apPreferredUsername: "asklemmy"
      +apDiscoverable: true
      +apManuallyApprovesFollowers: null
      +privateKey: null
      +publicKey: null
      +apFetchedAt: DateTime @1689747596 {#269
        date: 2023-07-19 08:19:56.0 +02:00
      }
      +apDeletedAt: null
      +apTimeoutAt: null
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1686889707 {#271
        date: 2023-06-16 06:28:27.0 +02:00
      }
    }
    +image: null
    +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#1915 …}
    +slug: "Best-options-for-Non-Google-cloud-storage-as-of-2022"
    +title: "Best options for Non-Google cloud storage as of 2022?"
    +url: null
    +body: """
      What are Lemmy’s feelings about the best cloud storage options these days, if you really want to break into the 1-2TB range? I’m not there yet, probably not even halfway there, but I like the peace of mind of potentially having the space if I need it. And I think subscribing to something in the Netflix price range is maybe something I’m ready for.\n
      \n
      My thoughts so far:\n
      \n
      [pcloud](https://www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime) - Intriguing because you can pay for a “lifetime” plan of 2TB of storage. But it’s $350, which is a lot, and I don’t know that I love the interface or usability, and I don’t know if I trust them.\n
      \n
      [iDrive](https://www.idrive.com/pricing) - Super affordable. 5tb for “just” $80/year. It might be the best deal, but nothing about their identity suggests to me that they are “good guys.” By which I mean, I’m not sure I trust them to make long-term promises for any specific plan.\n
      \n
      [Mega](https://mega.io/pro) - I like its very anti-google, very encrypted attitude. Born from the ashes of megaupload, they built encryption and zero knowledge into it. I LOVE that you can connect to it through the android app Solid Explorer and therefore don’t even need the mega app if you don’t want it. I hear bad things about it though? And it’s pretty expensive at $115 per year for 2TB.\n
      \n
      My personal thoughts/reasoning/caveats:\n
      \n
      **Homebrew stuff**: I don’t *quite* trust myself to use a homebrew setup like Nextcloud or Syncthing correctly. There’s too much in terms of labor, upkeep, catastrophic single points of failure where you could lose everything. I feel like I’m 70% of the way to being smart enough to do this.\n
      \n
      **Avoiding the Bad Guys and the Free Stuff**: I’ve tried the free version of just about everything, from Google to Onedrive to Dropbox to Mediafire to Mega. There’s even an android app that offers 1 free terrabyte?? But I don’t want something from the bad guys where I’m going to be integrated into their closed source death drap: Google, Amazon, Microsoft, Apple, and I don’t want a too-good-to-be-true free service where I’m the product.\n
      \n
      I also would prefer to avoid something from the upstarts who kinda-sorta imitate the bad guys: Dropbox, Mediafire, Box. Because I’m not sure how much I can trust any specific long term promise from them.\n
      \n
      **It sounds like you’re saying nothing is good enough! What exactly do you want!?** Something from good guys, not bad guys. Something like [Standardnotes](https://standardnotes.com/), but for file storage. They emphasize privacy, good governance principles and longevity of their service. Or [Linode](https://www.linode.com/support-experience/), with their independence, sense of mission, love of Linux & free software, all of which tells me they are good guys.\n
      \n
      Probably the correct answer is (1) here’s this magical perfect source I never thought of, or (2) I’m thinking this much about it, I should probably do Nextcloud or syncthing given all the constraints that I’m putting out there.\n
      \n
      Anyway, that’s my thoughts on cloud storage. What are yours?
      """
    +type: "article"
    +lang: "en"
    +isOc: false
    +hasEmbed: false
    +commentCount: 25
    +favouriteCount: 41
    +score: 0
    +isAdult: false
    +sticky: false
    +lastActive: DateTime @1689719793 {#2414
      date: 2023-07-19 00:36:33.0 +02:00
    }
    +ip: null
    +adaAmount: 0
    +tags: null
    +mentions: null
    +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1884 …}
    +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1973 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1959 …}
    +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1927 …}
    +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2442 …}
    +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2440 …}
    +children: []
    -id: 1294
    -titleTs: "'2022':11 'best':1 'cloud':7 'googl':6 'non':5 'non-googl':4 'option':2 'storag':8"
    -bodyTs: "'-2':23 '/),':451 '/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':77 '/pricing)':123 '/pro)':173 '/support-experience/),':471 '1':22,337,497 '115':240 '2':509 '2tb':88,244 '350':94 '5tb':126 '70':290 '80/year':129 'afford':125 'also':387 'amazon':364 'android':208,333 'answer':495 'anti':179 'anti-googl':178 'anyway':534 'app':209,220,334 'appl':366 'ash':187 'attitud':183 'avoid':301,391 'bad':229,303,348,402,444 'best':8,134 'born':184 'box':406 'break':19 'built':191 'catastroph':275 'close':359 'cloud':9,540 'connect':203 'constraint':527 'correct':265,494 'could':282 'day':13 'deal':135 'death':361 'drap':362 'dropbox':324,404 'emphas':457 'encrypt':182,192 'enough':297,433 'even':33,216,331 'everyth':284,318 'exact':435 'expens':238 'explor':211 'failur':279 'far':73 'feel':5,286 'file':454 'free':307,313,338,379,481 'given':524 'go':353 'good':147,375,432,441,459,490 'googl':180,320,363 'govern':460 'guy':148,304,349,403,442,445,491 'halfway':34 'hear':228 'homebrew':248,259 'ident':140 'idriv':120 'imit':400 'independ':474 'integr':356 'interfac':108 'intrigu':78 'kinda':398 'kinda-sorta':397 'know':103,115 'knowledg':195 'labor':273 'lemmi':3 'lifetim':85 'like':38,175,261,287,426,447 'linod':468 'linux':480 'long':163,419 'long-term':162 'longev':463 'lose':283 'lot':98 'love':106,199,478 'm':27,67,154,289,352,383,409,511,530 'magic':501 'make':161 'mayb':64 'mean':152 'mediafir':326,405 'mega':170,219,328 'mega.io':172 'mega.io/pro)':171 'megaupload':189 'microsoft':365 'might':131 'mind':42 'mission':477 'much':269,413,514 'need':50,217 'netflix':60 'never':505 'nextcloud':262,521 'noth':137,430 'offer':336 'onedr':322 'option':11 'pay':82 'pcloud':74 'peac':40 'per':241 'perfect':502 'person':246 'plan':86,169 'point':277 'potenti':44 'prefer':389 'pretti':237 'price':61 'principl':461 'privaci':458 'probabl':31,492,519 'product':385 'promis':165,421 'put':531 'quit':253 'rang':25,62 're':428 'readi':68 'realli':16 'say':429 'sens':475 'servic':380,466 'setup':260 'singl':276 'smart':296 'softwar':482 'solid':210 'someth':57,65,345,392,439,446 'sorta':399 'sound':425 'sourc':360,503 'space':47 'specif':168,418 'standardnot':448 'standardnotes.com':450 'standardnotes.com/),':449 'storag':10,90,455,541 'stuff':249,308 'subscrib':55 'suggest':141 'super':124 'sure':156,411 'syncth':264,523 'tb':24 'tell':486 'term':164,271,420 'terrabyt':339 'therefor':213 'thing':230 'think':54,512 'though':233 'thought':71,506,538 'thoughts/reasoning/caveats':247 'too-good-to-be-tru':373 'tri':311 'true':378 'trust':118,158,254,416 'upkeep':274 'upstart':395 'usabl':110 'use':257 've':310 'version':314 'want':17,225,344,371,438 'way':293 'would':388 'www.idrive.com':122 'www.idrive.com/pricing)':121 'www.linode.com':470 'www.linode.com/support-experience/),':469 'www.pcloud.com':76 'www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':75 'year':242 'yet':30 'zero':194"
    +cross: false
    +upVotes: 0
    +downVotes: 0
    +ranking: 1642260128
    +visibility: "visible             "
    +apId: "https://lemmy.ml/post/149005"
    +editedAt: null
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1642173728 {#1793
      date: 2022-01-14 16:22:08.0 +01:00
    }
  }
  +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
  +image: null
  +parent: null
  +root: null
  +body: "I’m using free account on Mega. Had it for years, have my photos automagically back up there, still haven’t used all of the free storage. If that happens, I’ll probably subscribe there since it’s tested, familiar and safe. But there’s also [Proton Drive](https://proton.me/drive). Will compare both when I need it."
  +lang: "en"
  +isAdult: false
  +favouriteCount: 5
  +score: 0
  +lastActive: DateTime @1689440923 {#4438
    date: 2023-07-15 19:08:43.0 +02:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +tags: null
  +mentions: [
    "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
  ]
  +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4444 …}
  +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4446 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4448 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4450 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4452 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4454 …}
  -id: 18420
  -bodyTs: "'/drive).':51 'account':5 'also':46 'automag':15 'back':16 'compar':53 'drive':48 'familiar':40 'free':4,26 'happen':30 'haven':20 'll':32 'm':2 'mega':7 'need':57 'photo':14 'probabl':33 'proton':47 'proton.me':50 'proton.me/drive).':49 'safe':42 'sinc':36 'still':19 'storag':27 'subscrib':34 'test':39 'use':3,22 'year':11"
  +ranking: 0
  +commentCount: 0
  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://lemmy.zip/comment/881520"
  +editedAt: null
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689440923 {#4439
    date: 2023-07-15 19:08:43.0 +02:00
  }
}
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
53 DENIED ROLE_USER 
null
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
54 DENIED moderate 
App\Entity\EntryComment {#4516
  +user: App\Entity\User {#4529 …}
  +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419
    +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#1970 …}
    +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265
      +icon: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#246 …}
      +name: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +title: "asklemmy"
      +description: """
        A loosely moderated place to ask open-ended questions\n
        \n
        **[Search asklemmy](https://lemmy.ml/search?q=&type=Posts&listingType=All&communityId=8&page=1&sort=TopAll) 🔍**\n
        \n
        If your post meets the following criteria, it’s welcome here!\n
        \n
        1. Open-ended\n
        2. Not offensive: at this point, we do not have the bandwidth to moderate overtly political discussions\n
        3. **Not regarding using or support for Lemmy**: [context](https://lemmy.ml/post/1223478), find help in the list of support alternatives below\n
        4. Not ad nauseam inducing: please make sure it is a question that would be new to most members\n
        5. [An actual topic of discussion](https://lemmy.ml/post/1239589)\n
        \n
        Support alternatives:\n
        \n
        - [!lemmy_support@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/lemmy_support)\n
        - [!nostupidlemmyquestions@lemmy.dbzer0.com](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/nostupidlemmyquestions)\n
        - [!selfhosted@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/selfhosted)\n
        \n
        ~Icon~ ~by~ ~@Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de~
        """
      +rules: null
      +subscriptionsCount: 0
      +entryCount: 580
      +entryCommentCount: 15558
      +postCount: 7
      +postCommentCount: 129
      +isAdult: false
      +customCss: null
      +lastActive: DateTime @1689748304 {#275
        date: 2023-07-19 08:31:44.0 +02:00
      }
      +markedForDeletionAt: null
      +tags: null
      +moderators: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#237 …}
      +ownershipRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#233 …}
      +moderatorRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#222 …}
      +entries: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#180 …}
      +posts: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#138 …}
      +subscriptions: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#200 …}
      +bans: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#117 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#103 …}
      +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#81 …}
      +logs: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#71 …}
      +awards: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1346 …}
      +categories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1823 …}
      -id: 9
      +apId: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +apProfileId: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apPublicUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apFollowersUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy/followers"
      +apInboxUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/inbox"
      +apDomain: "lemmy.ml"
      +apPreferredUsername: "asklemmy"
      +apDiscoverable: true
      +apManuallyApprovesFollowers: null
      +privateKey: null
      +publicKey: null
      +apFetchedAt: DateTime @1689747596 {#269
        date: 2023-07-19 08:19:56.0 +02:00
      }
      +apDeletedAt: null
      +apTimeoutAt: null
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1686889707 {#271
        date: 2023-06-16 06:28:27.0 +02:00
      }
    }
    +image: null
    +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#1915 …}
    +slug: "Best-options-for-Non-Google-cloud-storage-as-of-2022"
    +title: "Best options for Non-Google cloud storage as of 2022?"
    +url: null
    +body: """
      What are Lemmy’s feelings about the best cloud storage options these days, if you really want to break into the 1-2TB range? I’m not there yet, probably not even halfway there, but I like the peace of mind of potentially having the space if I need it. And I think subscribing to something in the Netflix price range is maybe something I’m ready for.\n
      \n
      My thoughts so far:\n
      \n
      [pcloud](https://www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime) - Intriguing because you can pay for a “lifetime” plan of 2TB of storage. But it’s $350, which is a lot, and I don’t know that I love the interface or usability, and I don’t know if I trust them.\n
      \n
      [iDrive](https://www.idrive.com/pricing) - Super affordable. 5tb for “just” $80/year. It might be the best deal, but nothing about their identity suggests to me that they are “good guys.” By which I mean, I’m not sure I trust them to make long-term promises for any specific plan.\n
      \n
      [Mega](https://mega.io/pro) - I like its very anti-google, very encrypted attitude. Born from the ashes of megaupload, they built encryption and zero knowledge into it. I LOVE that you can connect to it through the android app Solid Explorer and therefore don’t even need the mega app if you don’t want it. I hear bad things about it though? And it’s pretty expensive at $115 per year for 2TB.\n
      \n
      My personal thoughts/reasoning/caveats:\n
      \n
      **Homebrew stuff**: I don’t *quite* trust myself to use a homebrew setup like Nextcloud or Syncthing correctly. There’s too much in terms of labor, upkeep, catastrophic single points of failure where you could lose everything. I feel like I’m 70% of the way to being smart enough to do this.\n
      \n
      **Avoiding the Bad Guys and the Free Stuff**: I’ve tried the free version of just about everything, from Google to Onedrive to Dropbox to Mediafire to Mega. There’s even an android app that offers 1 free terrabyte?? But I don’t want something from the bad guys where I’m going to be integrated into their closed source death drap: Google, Amazon, Microsoft, Apple, and I don’t want a too-good-to-be-true free service where I’m the product.\n
      \n
      I also would prefer to avoid something from the upstarts who kinda-sorta imitate the bad guys: Dropbox, Mediafire, Box. Because I’m not sure how much I can trust any specific long term promise from them.\n
      \n
      **It sounds like you’re saying nothing is good enough! What exactly do you want!?** Something from good guys, not bad guys. Something like [Standardnotes](https://standardnotes.com/), but for file storage. They emphasize privacy, good governance principles and longevity of their service. Or [Linode](https://www.linode.com/support-experience/), with their independence, sense of mission, love of Linux & free software, all of which tells me they are good guys.\n
      \n
      Probably the correct answer is (1) here’s this magical perfect source I never thought of, or (2) I’m thinking this much about it, I should probably do Nextcloud or syncthing given all the constraints that I’m putting out there.\n
      \n
      Anyway, that’s my thoughts on cloud storage. What are yours?
      """
    +type: "article"
    +lang: "en"
    +isOc: false
    +hasEmbed: false
    +commentCount: 25
    +favouriteCount: 41
    +score: 0
    +isAdult: false
    +sticky: false
    +lastActive: DateTime @1689719793 {#2414
      date: 2023-07-19 00:36:33.0 +02:00
    }
    +ip: null
    +adaAmount: 0
    +tags: null
    +mentions: null
    +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1884 …}
    +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1973 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1959 …}
    +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1927 …}
    +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2442 …}
    +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2440 …}
    +children: []
    -id: 1294
    -titleTs: "'2022':11 'best':1 'cloud':7 'googl':6 'non':5 'non-googl':4 'option':2 'storag':8"
    -bodyTs: "'-2':23 '/),':451 '/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':77 '/pricing)':123 '/pro)':173 '/support-experience/),':471 '1':22,337,497 '115':240 '2':509 '2tb':88,244 '350':94 '5tb':126 '70':290 '80/year':129 'afford':125 'also':387 'amazon':364 'android':208,333 'answer':495 'anti':179 'anti-googl':178 'anyway':534 'app':209,220,334 'appl':366 'ash':187 'attitud':183 'avoid':301,391 'bad':229,303,348,402,444 'best':8,134 'born':184 'box':406 'break':19 'built':191 'catastroph':275 'close':359 'cloud':9,540 'connect':203 'constraint':527 'correct':265,494 'could':282 'day':13 'deal':135 'death':361 'drap':362 'dropbox':324,404 'emphas':457 'encrypt':182,192 'enough':297,433 'even':33,216,331 'everyth':284,318 'exact':435 'expens':238 'explor':211 'failur':279 'far':73 'feel':5,286 'file':454 'free':307,313,338,379,481 'given':524 'go':353 'good':147,375,432,441,459,490 'googl':180,320,363 'govern':460 'guy':148,304,349,403,442,445,491 'halfway':34 'hear':228 'homebrew':248,259 'ident':140 'idriv':120 'imit':400 'independ':474 'integr':356 'interfac':108 'intrigu':78 'kinda':398 'kinda-sorta':397 'know':103,115 'knowledg':195 'labor':273 'lemmi':3 'lifetim':85 'like':38,175,261,287,426,447 'linod':468 'linux':480 'long':163,419 'long-term':162 'longev':463 'lose':283 'lot':98 'love':106,199,478 'm':27,67,154,289,352,383,409,511,530 'magic':501 'make':161 'mayb':64 'mean':152 'mediafir':326,405 'mega':170,219,328 'mega.io':172 'mega.io/pro)':171 'megaupload':189 'microsoft':365 'might':131 'mind':42 'mission':477 'much':269,413,514 'need':50,217 'netflix':60 'never':505 'nextcloud':262,521 'noth':137,430 'offer':336 'onedr':322 'option':11 'pay':82 'pcloud':74 'peac':40 'per':241 'perfect':502 'person':246 'plan':86,169 'point':277 'potenti':44 'prefer':389 'pretti':237 'price':61 'principl':461 'privaci':458 'probabl':31,492,519 'product':385 'promis':165,421 'put':531 'quit':253 'rang':25,62 're':428 'readi':68 'realli':16 'say':429 'sens':475 'servic':380,466 'setup':260 'singl':276 'smart':296 'softwar':482 'solid':210 'someth':57,65,345,392,439,446 'sorta':399 'sound':425 'sourc':360,503 'space':47 'specif':168,418 'standardnot':448 'standardnotes.com':450 'standardnotes.com/),':449 'storag':10,90,455,541 'stuff':249,308 'subscrib':55 'suggest':141 'super':124 'sure':156,411 'syncth':264,523 'tb':24 'tell':486 'term':164,271,420 'terrabyt':339 'therefor':213 'thing':230 'think':54,512 'though':233 'thought':71,506,538 'thoughts/reasoning/caveats':247 'too-good-to-be-tru':373 'tri':311 'true':378 'trust':118,158,254,416 'upkeep':274 'upstart':395 'usabl':110 'use':257 've':310 'version':314 'want':17,225,344,371,438 'way':293 'would':388 'www.idrive.com':122 'www.idrive.com/pricing)':121 'www.linode.com':470 'www.linode.com/support-experience/),':469 'www.pcloud.com':76 'www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':75 'year':242 'yet':30 'zero':194"
    +cross: false
    +upVotes: 0
    +downVotes: 0
    +ranking: 1642260128
    +visibility: "visible             "
    +apId: "https://lemmy.ml/post/149005"
    +editedAt: null
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1642173728 {#1793
      date: 2022-01-14 16:22:08.0 +01:00
    }
  }
  +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
  +image: null
  +parent: null
  +root: null
  +body: """
    Another option would be to use something like Duplicati and have your backups be cloud agnostic. It fully encrypts the backups so it doesn’t matter who the vendor is or if they are good guys.\n
    \n
    This assumes you have the TB of space locally though.
    """
  +lang: "en"
  +isAdult: false
  +favouriteCount: 1
  +score: 0
  +lastActive: DateTime @1689430826 {#4511
    date: 2023-07-15 16:20:26.0 +02:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +tags: null
  +mentions: [
    "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
  ]
  +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4517 …}
  +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4519 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4521 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4523 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4525 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4527 …}
  -id: 18161
  -bodyTs: "'agnost':16 'anoth':1 'assum':38 'backup':13,21 'cloud':15 'doesn':24 'duplicati':9 'encrypt':19 'fulli':18 'good':35 'guy':36 'like':8 'local':45 'matter':26 'option':2 'someth':7 'space':44 'tb':42 'though':46 'use':6 'vendor':29 'would':3"
  +ranking: 0
  +commentCount: 0
  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://lemmy.fmhy.ml/comment/1073129"
  +editedAt: null
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689430826 {#4512
    date: 2023-07-15 16:20:26.0 +02:00
  }
}
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
55 DENIED edit 
App\Entity\EntryComment {#4516
  +user: App\Entity\User {#4529 …}
  +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419
    +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#1970 …}
    +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265
      +icon: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#246 …}
      +name: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +title: "asklemmy"
      +description: """
        A loosely moderated place to ask open-ended questions\n
        \n
        **[Search asklemmy](https://lemmy.ml/search?q=&type=Posts&listingType=All&communityId=8&page=1&sort=TopAll) 🔍**\n
        \n
        If your post meets the following criteria, it’s welcome here!\n
        \n
        1. Open-ended\n
        2. Not offensive: at this point, we do not have the bandwidth to moderate overtly political discussions\n
        3. **Not regarding using or support for Lemmy**: [context](https://lemmy.ml/post/1223478), find help in the list of support alternatives below\n
        4. Not ad nauseam inducing: please make sure it is a question that would be new to most members\n
        5. [An actual topic of discussion](https://lemmy.ml/post/1239589)\n
        \n
        Support alternatives:\n
        \n
        - [!lemmy_support@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/lemmy_support)\n
        - [!nostupidlemmyquestions@lemmy.dbzer0.com](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/nostupidlemmyquestions)\n
        - [!selfhosted@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/selfhosted)\n
        \n
        ~Icon~ ~by~ ~@Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de~
        """
      +rules: null
      +subscriptionsCount: 0
      +entryCount: 580
      +entryCommentCount: 15558
      +postCount: 7
      +postCommentCount: 129
      +isAdult: false
      +customCss: null
      +lastActive: DateTime @1689748304 {#275
        date: 2023-07-19 08:31:44.0 +02:00
      }
      +markedForDeletionAt: null
      +tags: null
      +moderators: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#237 …}
      +ownershipRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#233 …}
      +moderatorRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#222 …}
      +entries: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#180 …}
      +posts: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#138 …}
      +subscriptions: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#200 …}
      +bans: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#117 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#103 …}
      +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#81 …}
      +logs: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#71 …}
      +awards: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1346 …}
      +categories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1823 …}
      -id: 9
      +apId: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +apProfileId: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apPublicUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apFollowersUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy/followers"
      +apInboxUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/inbox"
      +apDomain: "lemmy.ml"
      +apPreferredUsername: "asklemmy"
      +apDiscoverable: true
      +apManuallyApprovesFollowers: null
      +privateKey: null
      +publicKey: null
      +apFetchedAt: DateTime @1689747596 {#269
        date: 2023-07-19 08:19:56.0 +02:00
      }
      +apDeletedAt: null
      +apTimeoutAt: null
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1686889707 {#271
        date: 2023-06-16 06:28:27.0 +02:00
      }
    }
    +image: null
    +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#1915 …}
    +slug: "Best-options-for-Non-Google-cloud-storage-as-of-2022"
    +title: "Best options for Non-Google cloud storage as of 2022?"
    +url: null
    +body: """
      What are Lemmy’s feelings about the best cloud storage options these days, if you really want to break into the 1-2TB range? I’m not there yet, probably not even halfway there, but I like the peace of mind of potentially having the space if I need it. And I think subscribing to something in the Netflix price range is maybe something I’m ready for.\n
      \n
      My thoughts so far:\n
      \n
      [pcloud](https://www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime) - Intriguing because you can pay for a “lifetime” plan of 2TB of storage. But it’s $350, which is a lot, and I don’t know that I love the interface or usability, and I don’t know if I trust them.\n
      \n
      [iDrive](https://www.idrive.com/pricing) - Super affordable. 5tb for “just” $80/year. It might be the best deal, but nothing about their identity suggests to me that they are “good guys.” By which I mean, I’m not sure I trust them to make long-term promises for any specific plan.\n
      \n
      [Mega](https://mega.io/pro) - I like its very anti-google, very encrypted attitude. Born from the ashes of megaupload, they built encryption and zero knowledge into it. I LOVE that you can connect to it through the android app Solid Explorer and therefore don’t even need the mega app if you don’t want it. I hear bad things about it though? And it’s pretty expensive at $115 per year for 2TB.\n
      \n
      My personal thoughts/reasoning/caveats:\n
      \n
      **Homebrew stuff**: I don’t *quite* trust myself to use a homebrew setup like Nextcloud or Syncthing correctly. There’s too much in terms of labor, upkeep, catastrophic single points of failure where you could lose everything. I feel like I’m 70% of the way to being smart enough to do this.\n
      \n
      **Avoiding the Bad Guys and the Free Stuff**: I’ve tried the free version of just about everything, from Google to Onedrive to Dropbox to Mediafire to Mega. There’s even an android app that offers 1 free terrabyte?? But I don’t want something from the bad guys where I’m going to be integrated into their closed source death drap: Google, Amazon, Microsoft, Apple, and I don’t want a too-good-to-be-true free service where I’m the product.\n
      \n
      I also would prefer to avoid something from the upstarts who kinda-sorta imitate the bad guys: Dropbox, Mediafire, Box. Because I’m not sure how much I can trust any specific long term promise from them.\n
      \n
      **It sounds like you’re saying nothing is good enough! What exactly do you want!?** Something from good guys, not bad guys. Something like [Standardnotes](https://standardnotes.com/), but for file storage. They emphasize privacy, good governance principles and longevity of their service. Or [Linode](https://www.linode.com/support-experience/), with their independence, sense of mission, love of Linux & free software, all of which tells me they are good guys.\n
      \n
      Probably the correct answer is (1) here’s this magical perfect source I never thought of, or (2) I’m thinking this much about it, I should probably do Nextcloud or syncthing given all the constraints that I’m putting out there.\n
      \n
      Anyway, that’s my thoughts on cloud storage. What are yours?
      """
    +type: "article"
    +lang: "en"
    +isOc: false
    +hasEmbed: false
    +commentCount: 25
    +favouriteCount: 41
    +score: 0
    +isAdult: false
    +sticky: false
    +lastActive: DateTime @1689719793 {#2414
      date: 2023-07-19 00:36:33.0 +02:00
    }
    +ip: null
    +adaAmount: 0
    +tags: null
    +mentions: null
    +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1884 …}
    +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1973 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1959 …}
    +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1927 …}
    +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2442 …}
    +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2440 …}
    +children: []
    -id: 1294
    -titleTs: "'2022':11 'best':1 'cloud':7 'googl':6 'non':5 'non-googl':4 'option':2 'storag':8"
    -bodyTs: "'-2':23 '/),':451 '/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':77 '/pricing)':123 '/pro)':173 '/support-experience/),':471 '1':22,337,497 '115':240 '2':509 '2tb':88,244 '350':94 '5tb':126 '70':290 '80/year':129 'afford':125 'also':387 'amazon':364 'android':208,333 'answer':495 'anti':179 'anti-googl':178 'anyway':534 'app':209,220,334 'appl':366 'ash':187 'attitud':183 'avoid':301,391 'bad':229,303,348,402,444 'best':8,134 'born':184 'box':406 'break':19 'built':191 'catastroph':275 'close':359 'cloud':9,540 'connect':203 'constraint':527 'correct':265,494 'could':282 'day':13 'deal':135 'death':361 'drap':362 'dropbox':324,404 'emphas':457 'encrypt':182,192 'enough':297,433 'even':33,216,331 'everyth':284,318 'exact':435 'expens':238 'explor':211 'failur':279 'far':73 'feel':5,286 'file':454 'free':307,313,338,379,481 'given':524 'go':353 'good':147,375,432,441,459,490 'googl':180,320,363 'govern':460 'guy':148,304,349,403,442,445,491 'halfway':34 'hear':228 'homebrew':248,259 'ident':140 'idriv':120 'imit':400 'independ':474 'integr':356 'interfac':108 'intrigu':78 'kinda':398 'kinda-sorta':397 'know':103,115 'knowledg':195 'labor':273 'lemmi':3 'lifetim':85 'like':38,175,261,287,426,447 'linod':468 'linux':480 'long':163,419 'long-term':162 'longev':463 'lose':283 'lot':98 'love':106,199,478 'm':27,67,154,289,352,383,409,511,530 'magic':501 'make':161 'mayb':64 'mean':152 'mediafir':326,405 'mega':170,219,328 'mega.io':172 'mega.io/pro)':171 'megaupload':189 'microsoft':365 'might':131 'mind':42 'mission':477 'much':269,413,514 'need':50,217 'netflix':60 'never':505 'nextcloud':262,521 'noth':137,430 'offer':336 'onedr':322 'option':11 'pay':82 'pcloud':74 'peac':40 'per':241 'perfect':502 'person':246 'plan':86,169 'point':277 'potenti':44 'prefer':389 'pretti':237 'price':61 'principl':461 'privaci':458 'probabl':31,492,519 'product':385 'promis':165,421 'put':531 'quit':253 'rang':25,62 're':428 'readi':68 'realli':16 'say':429 'sens':475 'servic':380,466 'setup':260 'singl':276 'smart':296 'softwar':482 'solid':210 'someth':57,65,345,392,439,446 'sorta':399 'sound':425 'sourc':360,503 'space':47 'specif':168,418 'standardnot':448 'standardnotes.com':450 'standardnotes.com/),':449 'storag':10,90,455,541 'stuff':249,308 'subscrib':55 'suggest':141 'super':124 'sure':156,411 'syncth':264,523 'tb':24 'tell':486 'term':164,271,420 'terrabyt':339 'therefor':213 'thing':230 'think':54,512 'though':233 'thought':71,506,538 'thoughts/reasoning/caveats':247 'too-good-to-be-tru':373 'tri':311 'true':378 'trust':118,158,254,416 'upkeep':274 'upstart':395 'usabl':110 'use':257 've':310 'version':314 'want':17,225,344,371,438 'way':293 'would':388 'www.idrive.com':122 'www.idrive.com/pricing)':121 'www.linode.com':470 'www.linode.com/support-experience/),':469 'www.pcloud.com':76 'www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':75 'year':242 'yet':30 'zero':194"
    +cross: false
    +upVotes: 0
    +downVotes: 0
    +ranking: 1642260128
    +visibility: "visible             "
    +apId: "https://lemmy.ml/post/149005"
    +editedAt: null
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1642173728 {#1793
      date: 2022-01-14 16:22:08.0 +01:00
    }
  }
  +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
  +image: null
  +parent: null
  +root: null
  +body: """
    Another option would be to use something like Duplicati and have your backups be cloud agnostic. It fully encrypts the backups so it doesn’t matter who the vendor is or if they are good guys.\n
    \n
    This assumes you have the TB of space locally though.
    """
  +lang: "en"
  +isAdult: false
  +favouriteCount: 1
  +score: 0
  +lastActive: DateTime @1689430826 {#4511
    date: 2023-07-15 16:20:26.0 +02:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +tags: null
  +mentions: [
    "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
  ]
  +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4517 …}
  +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4519 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4521 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4523 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4525 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4527 …}
  -id: 18161
  -bodyTs: "'agnost':16 'anoth':1 'assum':38 'backup':13,21 'cloud':15 'doesn':24 'duplicati':9 'encrypt':19 'fulli':18 'good':35 'guy':36 'like':8 'local':45 'matter':26 'option':2 'someth':7 'space':44 'tb':42 'though':46 'use':6 'vendor':29 'would':3"
  +ranking: 0
  +commentCount: 0
  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://lemmy.fmhy.ml/comment/1073129"
  +editedAt: null
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689430826 {#4512
    date: 2023-07-15 16:20:26.0 +02:00
  }
}
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
56 DENIED moderate 
App\Entity\EntryComment {#4516
  +user: App\Entity\User {#4529 …}
  +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419
    +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#1970 …}
    +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265
      +icon: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#246 …}
      +name: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +title: "asklemmy"
      +description: """
        A loosely moderated place to ask open-ended questions\n
        \n
        **[Search asklemmy](https://lemmy.ml/search?q=&type=Posts&listingType=All&communityId=8&page=1&sort=TopAll) 🔍**\n
        \n
        If your post meets the following criteria, it’s welcome here!\n
        \n
        1. Open-ended\n
        2. Not offensive: at this point, we do not have the bandwidth to moderate overtly political discussions\n
        3. **Not regarding using or support for Lemmy**: [context](https://lemmy.ml/post/1223478), find help in the list of support alternatives below\n
        4. Not ad nauseam inducing: please make sure it is a question that would be new to most members\n
        5. [An actual topic of discussion](https://lemmy.ml/post/1239589)\n
        \n
        Support alternatives:\n
        \n
        - [!lemmy_support@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/lemmy_support)\n
        - [!nostupidlemmyquestions@lemmy.dbzer0.com](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/nostupidlemmyquestions)\n
        - [!selfhosted@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/selfhosted)\n
        \n
        ~Icon~ ~by~ ~@Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de~
        """
      +rules: null
      +subscriptionsCount: 0
      +entryCount: 580
      +entryCommentCount: 15558
      +postCount: 7
      +postCommentCount: 129
      +isAdult: false
      +customCss: null
      +lastActive: DateTime @1689748304 {#275
        date: 2023-07-19 08:31:44.0 +02:00
      }
      +markedForDeletionAt: null
      +tags: null
      +moderators: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#237 …}
      +ownershipRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#233 …}
      +moderatorRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#222 …}
      +entries: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#180 …}
      +posts: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#138 …}
      +subscriptions: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#200 …}
      +bans: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#117 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#103 …}
      +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#81 …}
      +logs: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#71 …}
      +awards: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1346 …}
      +categories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1823 …}
      -id: 9
      +apId: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +apProfileId: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apPublicUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apFollowersUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy/followers"
      +apInboxUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/inbox"
      +apDomain: "lemmy.ml"
      +apPreferredUsername: "asklemmy"
      +apDiscoverable: true
      +apManuallyApprovesFollowers: null
      +privateKey: null
      +publicKey: null
      +apFetchedAt: DateTime @1689747596 {#269
        date: 2023-07-19 08:19:56.0 +02:00
      }
      +apDeletedAt: null
      +apTimeoutAt: null
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1686889707 {#271
        date: 2023-06-16 06:28:27.0 +02:00
      }
    }
    +image: null
    +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#1915 …}
    +slug: "Best-options-for-Non-Google-cloud-storage-as-of-2022"
    +title: "Best options for Non-Google cloud storage as of 2022?"
    +url: null
    +body: """
      What are Lemmy’s feelings about the best cloud storage options these days, if you really want to break into the 1-2TB range? I’m not there yet, probably not even halfway there, but I like the peace of mind of potentially having the space if I need it. And I think subscribing to something in the Netflix price range is maybe something I’m ready for.\n
      \n
      My thoughts so far:\n
      \n
      [pcloud](https://www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime) - Intriguing because you can pay for a “lifetime” plan of 2TB of storage. But it’s $350, which is a lot, and I don’t know that I love the interface or usability, and I don’t know if I trust them.\n
      \n
      [iDrive](https://www.idrive.com/pricing) - Super affordable. 5tb for “just” $80/year. It might be the best deal, but nothing about their identity suggests to me that they are “good guys.” By which I mean, I’m not sure I trust them to make long-term promises for any specific plan.\n
      \n
      [Mega](https://mega.io/pro) - I like its very anti-google, very encrypted attitude. Born from the ashes of megaupload, they built encryption and zero knowledge into it. I LOVE that you can connect to it through the android app Solid Explorer and therefore don’t even need the mega app if you don’t want it. I hear bad things about it though? And it’s pretty expensive at $115 per year for 2TB.\n
      \n
      My personal thoughts/reasoning/caveats:\n
      \n
      **Homebrew stuff**: I don’t *quite* trust myself to use a homebrew setup like Nextcloud or Syncthing correctly. There’s too much in terms of labor, upkeep, catastrophic single points of failure where you could lose everything. I feel like I’m 70% of the way to being smart enough to do this.\n
      \n
      **Avoiding the Bad Guys and the Free Stuff**: I’ve tried the free version of just about everything, from Google to Onedrive to Dropbox to Mediafire to Mega. There’s even an android app that offers 1 free terrabyte?? But I don’t want something from the bad guys where I’m going to be integrated into their closed source death drap: Google, Amazon, Microsoft, Apple, and I don’t want a too-good-to-be-true free service where I’m the product.\n
      \n
      I also would prefer to avoid something from the upstarts who kinda-sorta imitate the bad guys: Dropbox, Mediafire, Box. Because I’m not sure how much I can trust any specific long term promise from them.\n
      \n
      **It sounds like you’re saying nothing is good enough! What exactly do you want!?** Something from good guys, not bad guys. Something like [Standardnotes](https://standardnotes.com/), but for file storage. They emphasize privacy, good governance principles and longevity of their service. Or [Linode](https://www.linode.com/support-experience/), with their independence, sense of mission, love of Linux & free software, all of which tells me they are good guys.\n
      \n
      Probably the correct answer is (1) here’s this magical perfect source I never thought of, or (2) I’m thinking this much about it, I should probably do Nextcloud or syncthing given all the constraints that I’m putting out there.\n
      \n
      Anyway, that’s my thoughts on cloud storage. What are yours?
      """
    +type: "article"
    +lang: "en"
    +isOc: false
    +hasEmbed: false
    +commentCount: 25
    +favouriteCount: 41
    +score: 0
    +isAdult: false
    +sticky: false
    +lastActive: DateTime @1689719793 {#2414
      date: 2023-07-19 00:36:33.0 +02:00
    }
    +ip: null
    +adaAmount: 0
    +tags: null
    +mentions: null
    +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1884 …}
    +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1973 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1959 …}
    +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1927 …}
    +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2442 …}
    +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2440 …}
    +children: []
    -id: 1294
    -titleTs: "'2022':11 'best':1 'cloud':7 'googl':6 'non':5 'non-googl':4 'option':2 'storag':8"
    -bodyTs: "'-2':23 '/),':451 '/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':77 '/pricing)':123 '/pro)':173 '/support-experience/),':471 '1':22,337,497 '115':240 '2':509 '2tb':88,244 '350':94 '5tb':126 '70':290 '80/year':129 'afford':125 'also':387 'amazon':364 'android':208,333 'answer':495 'anti':179 'anti-googl':178 'anyway':534 'app':209,220,334 'appl':366 'ash':187 'attitud':183 'avoid':301,391 'bad':229,303,348,402,444 'best':8,134 'born':184 'box':406 'break':19 'built':191 'catastroph':275 'close':359 'cloud':9,540 'connect':203 'constraint':527 'correct':265,494 'could':282 'day':13 'deal':135 'death':361 'drap':362 'dropbox':324,404 'emphas':457 'encrypt':182,192 'enough':297,433 'even':33,216,331 'everyth':284,318 'exact':435 'expens':238 'explor':211 'failur':279 'far':73 'feel':5,286 'file':454 'free':307,313,338,379,481 'given':524 'go':353 'good':147,375,432,441,459,490 'googl':180,320,363 'govern':460 'guy':148,304,349,403,442,445,491 'halfway':34 'hear':228 'homebrew':248,259 'ident':140 'idriv':120 'imit':400 'independ':474 'integr':356 'interfac':108 'intrigu':78 'kinda':398 'kinda-sorta':397 'know':103,115 'knowledg':195 'labor':273 'lemmi':3 'lifetim':85 'like':38,175,261,287,426,447 'linod':468 'linux':480 'long':163,419 'long-term':162 'longev':463 'lose':283 'lot':98 'love':106,199,478 'm':27,67,154,289,352,383,409,511,530 'magic':501 'make':161 'mayb':64 'mean':152 'mediafir':326,405 'mega':170,219,328 'mega.io':172 'mega.io/pro)':171 'megaupload':189 'microsoft':365 'might':131 'mind':42 'mission':477 'much':269,413,514 'need':50,217 'netflix':60 'never':505 'nextcloud':262,521 'noth':137,430 'offer':336 'onedr':322 'option':11 'pay':82 'pcloud':74 'peac':40 'per':241 'perfect':502 'person':246 'plan':86,169 'point':277 'potenti':44 'prefer':389 'pretti':237 'price':61 'principl':461 'privaci':458 'probabl':31,492,519 'product':385 'promis':165,421 'put':531 'quit':253 'rang':25,62 're':428 'readi':68 'realli':16 'say':429 'sens':475 'servic':380,466 'setup':260 'singl':276 'smart':296 'softwar':482 'solid':210 'someth':57,65,345,392,439,446 'sorta':399 'sound':425 'sourc':360,503 'space':47 'specif':168,418 'standardnot':448 'standardnotes.com':450 'standardnotes.com/),':449 'storag':10,90,455,541 'stuff':249,308 'subscrib':55 'suggest':141 'super':124 'sure':156,411 'syncth':264,523 'tb':24 'tell':486 'term':164,271,420 'terrabyt':339 'therefor':213 'thing':230 'think':54,512 'though':233 'thought':71,506,538 'thoughts/reasoning/caveats':247 'too-good-to-be-tru':373 'tri':311 'true':378 'trust':118,158,254,416 'upkeep':274 'upstart':395 'usabl':110 'use':257 've':310 'version':314 'want':17,225,344,371,438 'way':293 'would':388 'www.idrive.com':122 'www.idrive.com/pricing)':121 'www.linode.com':470 'www.linode.com/support-experience/),':469 'www.pcloud.com':76 'www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':75 'year':242 'yet':30 'zero':194"
    +cross: false
    +upVotes: 0
    +downVotes: 0
    +ranking: 1642260128
    +visibility: "visible             "
    +apId: "https://lemmy.ml/post/149005"
    +editedAt: null
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1642173728 {#1793
      date: 2022-01-14 16:22:08.0 +01:00
    }
  }
  +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
  +image: null
  +parent: null
  +root: null
  +body: """
    Another option would be to use something like Duplicati and have your backups be cloud agnostic. It fully encrypts the backups so it doesn’t matter who the vendor is or if they are good guys.\n
    \n
    This assumes you have the TB of space locally though.
    """
  +lang: "en"
  +isAdult: false
  +favouriteCount: 1
  +score: 0
  +lastActive: DateTime @1689430826 {#4511
    date: 2023-07-15 16:20:26.0 +02:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +tags: null
  +mentions: [
    "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
  ]
  +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4517 …}
  +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4519 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4521 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4523 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4525 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4527 …}
  -id: 18161
  -bodyTs: "'agnost':16 'anoth':1 'assum':38 'backup':13,21 'cloud':15 'doesn':24 'duplicati':9 'encrypt':19 'fulli':18 'good':35 'guy':36 'like':8 'local':45 'matter':26 'option':2 'someth':7 'space':44 'tb':42 'though':46 'use':6 'vendor':29 'would':3"
  +ranking: 0
  +commentCount: 0
  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://lemmy.fmhy.ml/comment/1073129"
  +editedAt: null
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689430826 {#4512
    date: 2023-07-15 16:20:26.0 +02:00
  }
}
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
57 DENIED ROLE_USER 
null
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
58 DENIED moderate 
App\Entity\EntryComment {#4589
  +user: App\Entity\User {#4602 …}
  +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419
    +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#1970 …}
    +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265
      +icon: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#246 …}
      +name: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +title: "asklemmy"
      +description: """
        A loosely moderated place to ask open-ended questions\n
        \n
        **[Search asklemmy](https://lemmy.ml/search?q=&type=Posts&listingType=All&communityId=8&page=1&sort=TopAll) 🔍**\n
        \n
        If your post meets the following criteria, it’s welcome here!\n
        \n
        1. Open-ended\n
        2. Not offensive: at this point, we do not have the bandwidth to moderate overtly political discussions\n
        3. **Not regarding using or support for Lemmy**: [context](https://lemmy.ml/post/1223478), find help in the list of support alternatives below\n
        4. Not ad nauseam inducing: please make sure it is a question that would be new to most members\n
        5. [An actual topic of discussion](https://lemmy.ml/post/1239589)\n
        \n
        Support alternatives:\n
        \n
        - [!lemmy_support@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/lemmy_support)\n
        - [!nostupidlemmyquestions@lemmy.dbzer0.com](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/nostupidlemmyquestions)\n
        - [!selfhosted@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/selfhosted)\n
        \n
        ~Icon~ ~by~ ~@Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de~
        """
      +rules: null
      +subscriptionsCount: 0
      +entryCount: 580
      +entryCommentCount: 15558
      +postCount: 7
      +postCommentCount: 129
      +isAdult: false
      +customCss: null
      +lastActive: DateTime @1689748304 {#275
        date: 2023-07-19 08:31:44.0 +02:00
      }
      +markedForDeletionAt: null
      +tags: null
      +moderators: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#237 …}
      +ownershipRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#233 …}
      +moderatorRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#222 …}
      +entries: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#180 …}
      +posts: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#138 …}
      +subscriptions: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#200 …}
      +bans: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#117 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#103 …}
      +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#81 …}
      +logs: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#71 …}
      +awards: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1346 …}
      +categories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1823 …}
      -id: 9
      +apId: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +apProfileId: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apPublicUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apFollowersUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy/followers"
      +apInboxUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/inbox"
      +apDomain: "lemmy.ml"
      +apPreferredUsername: "asklemmy"
      +apDiscoverable: true
      +apManuallyApprovesFollowers: null
      +privateKey: null
      +publicKey: null
      +apFetchedAt: DateTime @1689747596 {#269
        date: 2023-07-19 08:19:56.0 +02:00
      }
      +apDeletedAt: null
      +apTimeoutAt: null
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1686889707 {#271
        date: 2023-06-16 06:28:27.0 +02:00
      }
    }
    +image: null
    +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#1915 …}
    +slug: "Best-options-for-Non-Google-cloud-storage-as-of-2022"
    +title: "Best options for Non-Google cloud storage as of 2022?"
    +url: null
    +body: """
      What are Lemmy’s feelings about the best cloud storage options these days, if you really want to break into the 1-2TB range? I’m not there yet, probably not even halfway there, but I like the peace of mind of potentially having the space if I need it. And I think subscribing to something in the Netflix price range is maybe something I’m ready for.\n
      \n
      My thoughts so far:\n
      \n
      [pcloud](https://www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime) - Intriguing because you can pay for a “lifetime” plan of 2TB of storage. But it’s $350, which is a lot, and I don’t know that I love the interface or usability, and I don’t know if I trust them.\n
      \n
      [iDrive](https://www.idrive.com/pricing) - Super affordable. 5tb for “just” $80/year. It might be the best deal, but nothing about their identity suggests to me that they are “good guys.” By which I mean, I’m not sure I trust them to make long-term promises for any specific plan.\n
      \n
      [Mega](https://mega.io/pro) - I like its very anti-google, very encrypted attitude. Born from the ashes of megaupload, they built encryption and zero knowledge into it. I LOVE that you can connect to it through the android app Solid Explorer and therefore don’t even need the mega app if you don’t want it. I hear bad things about it though? And it’s pretty expensive at $115 per year for 2TB.\n
      \n
      My personal thoughts/reasoning/caveats:\n
      \n
      **Homebrew stuff**: I don’t *quite* trust myself to use a homebrew setup like Nextcloud or Syncthing correctly. There’s too much in terms of labor, upkeep, catastrophic single points of failure where you could lose everything. I feel like I’m 70% of the way to being smart enough to do this.\n
      \n
      **Avoiding the Bad Guys and the Free Stuff**: I’ve tried the free version of just about everything, from Google to Onedrive to Dropbox to Mediafire to Mega. There’s even an android app that offers 1 free terrabyte?? But I don’t want something from the bad guys where I’m going to be integrated into their closed source death drap: Google, Amazon, Microsoft, Apple, and I don’t want a too-good-to-be-true free service where I’m the product.\n
      \n
      I also would prefer to avoid something from the upstarts who kinda-sorta imitate the bad guys: Dropbox, Mediafire, Box. Because I’m not sure how much I can trust any specific long term promise from them.\n
      \n
      **It sounds like you’re saying nothing is good enough! What exactly do you want!?** Something from good guys, not bad guys. Something like [Standardnotes](https://standardnotes.com/), but for file storage. They emphasize privacy, good governance principles and longevity of their service. Or [Linode](https://www.linode.com/support-experience/), with their independence, sense of mission, love of Linux & free software, all of which tells me they are good guys.\n
      \n
      Probably the correct answer is (1) here’s this magical perfect source I never thought of, or (2) I’m thinking this much about it, I should probably do Nextcloud or syncthing given all the constraints that I’m putting out there.\n
      \n
      Anyway, that’s my thoughts on cloud storage. What are yours?
      """
    +type: "article"
    +lang: "en"
    +isOc: false
    +hasEmbed: false
    +commentCount: 25
    +favouriteCount: 41
    +score: 0
    +isAdult: false
    +sticky: false
    +lastActive: DateTime @1689719793 {#2414
      date: 2023-07-19 00:36:33.0 +02:00
    }
    +ip: null
    +adaAmount: 0
    +tags: null
    +mentions: null
    +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1884 …}
    +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1973 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1959 …}
    +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1927 …}
    +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2442 …}
    +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2440 …}
    +children: []
    -id: 1294
    -titleTs: "'2022':11 'best':1 'cloud':7 'googl':6 'non':5 'non-googl':4 'option':2 'storag':8"
    -bodyTs: "'-2':23 '/),':451 '/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':77 '/pricing)':123 '/pro)':173 '/support-experience/),':471 '1':22,337,497 '115':240 '2':509 '2tb':88,244 '350':94 '5tb':126 '70':290 '80/year':129 'afford':125 'also':387 'amazon':364 'android':208,333 'answer':495 'anti':179 'anti-googl':178 'anyway':534 'app':209,220,334 'appl':366 'ash':187 'attitud':183 'avoid':301,391 'bad':229,303,348,402,444 'best':8,134 'born':184 'box':406 'break':19 'built':191 'catastroph':275 'close':359 'cloud':9,540 'connect':203 'constraint':527 'correct':265,494 'could':282 'day':13 'deal':135 'death':361 'drap':362 'dropbox':324,404 'emphas':457 'encrypt':182,192 'enough':297,433 'even':33,216,331 'everyth':284,318 'exact':435 'expens':238 'explor':211 'failur':279 'far':73 'feel':5,286 'file':454 'free':307,313,338,379,481 'given':524 'go':353 'good':147,375,432,441,459,490 'googl':180,320,363 'govern':460 'guy':148,304,349,403,442,445,491 'halfway':34 'hear':228 'homebrew':248,259 'ident':140 'idriv':120 'imit':400 'independ':474 'integr':356 'interfac':108 'intrigu':78 'kinda':398 'kinda-sorta':397 'know':103,115 'knowledg':195 'labor':273 'lemmi':3 'lifetim':85 'like':38,175,261,287,426,447 'linod':468 'linux':480 'long':163,419 'long-term':162 'longev':463 'lose':283 'lot':98 'love':106,199,478 'm':27,67,154,289,352,383,409,511,530 'magic':501 'make':161 'mayb':64 'mean':152 'mediafir':326,405 'mega':170,219,328 'mega.io':172 'mega.io/pro)':171 'megaupload':189 'microsoft':365 'might':131 'mind':42 'mission':477 'much':269,413,514 'need':50,217 'netflix':60 'never':505 'nextcloud':262,521 'noth':137,430 'offer':336 'onedr':322 'option':11 'pay':82 'pcloud':74 'peac':40 'per':241 'perfect':502 'person':246 'plan':86,169 'point':277 'potenti':44 'prefer':389 'pretti':237 'price':61 'principl':461 'privaci':458 'probabl':31,492,519 'product':385 'promis':165,421 'put':531 'quit':253 'rang':25,62 're':428 'readi':68 'realli':16 'say':429 'sens':475 'servic':380,466 'setup':260 'singl':276 'smart':296 'softwar':482 'solid':210 'someth':57,65,345,392,439,446 'sorta':399 'sound':425 'sourc':360,503 'space':47 'specif':168,418 'standardnot':448 'standardnotes.com':450 'standardnotes.com/),':449 'storag':10,90,455,541 'stuff':249,308 'subscrib':55 'suggest':141 'super':124 'sure':156,411 'syncth':264,523 'tb':24 'tell':486 'term':164,271,420 'terrabyt':339 'therefor':213 'thing':230 'think':54,512 'though':233 'thought':71,506,538 'thoughts/reasoning/caveats':247 'too-good-to-be-tru':373 'tri':311 'true':378 'trust':118,158,254,416 'upkeep':274 'upstart':395 'usabl':110 'use':257 've':310 'version':314 'want':17,225,344,371,438 'way':293 'would':388 'www.idrive.com':122 'www.idrive.com/pricing)':121 'www.linode.com':470 'www.linode.com/support-experience/),':469 'www.pcloud.com':76 'www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':75 'year':242 'yet':30 'zero':194"
    +cross: false
    +upVotes: 0
    +downVotes: 0
    +ranking: 1642260128
    +visibility: "visible             "
    +apId: "https://lemmy.ml/post/149005"
    +editedAt: null
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1642173728 {#1793
      date: 2022-01-14 16:22:08.0 +01:00
    }
  }
  +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
  +image: null
  +parent: null
  +root: null
  +body: """
    I use resilio, which is a peer to peer storage based on BitTorrent. I don’t remember syncthing’s base protocol, but it sounds like it meets the same goals.\n
    \n
    Resilio offers apps for my phone, NAS, Mac, pc, etc. For my phone I use selective sync for a few key folders instead of the whole thing.\n
    \n
    These don’t get me location redundancy unless I tuck another device offsite. Most people don’t have 2 secure enough locations for this.
    """
  +lang: "en"
  +isAdult: false
  +favouriteCount: 0
  +score: 0
  +lastActive: DateTime @1689430092 {#4584
    date: 2023-07-15 16:08:12.0 +02:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +tags: null
  +mentions: [
    "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
  ]
  +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4590 …}
  +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4592 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4594 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4596 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4598 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4600 …}
  -id: 18129
  -bodyTs: "'2':76 'anoth':68 'app':33 'base':11,20 'bittorr':13 'devic':69 'enough':78 'etc':40 'folder':52 'get':61 'goal':30 'instead':53 'key':51 'like':25 'locat':63,79 'mac':38 'meet':27 'nas':37 'offer':32 'offsit':70 'pc':39 'peer':7,9 'peopl':72 'phone':36,43 'protocol':21 'redund':64 'rememb':17 'resilio':3,31 'secur':77 'select':46 'sound':24 'storag':10 'sync':47 'syncth':18 'thing':57 'tuck':67 'unless':65 'use':2,45 'whole':56"
  +ranking: 0
  +commentCount: 0
  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://lemmy.world/comment/1301970"
  +editedAt: null
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689430092 {#4585
    date: 2023-07-15 16:08:12.0 +02:00
  }
}
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
59 DENIED edit 
App\Entity\EntryComment {#4589
  +user: App\Entity\User {#4602 …}
  +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419
    +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#1970 …}
    +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265
      +icon: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#246 …}
      +name: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +title: "asklemmy"
      +description: """
        A loosely moderated place to ask open-ended questions\n
        \n
        **[Search asklemmy](https://lemmy.ml/search?q=&type=Posts&listingType=All&communityId=8&page=1&sort=TopAll) 🔍**\n
        \n
        If your post meets the following criteria, it’s welcome here!\n
        \n
        1. Open-ended\n
        2. Not offensive: at this point, we do not have the bandwidth to moderate overtly political discussions\n
        3. **Not regarding using or support for Lemmy**: [context](https://lemmy.ml/post/1223478), find help in the list of support alternatives below\n
        4. Not ad nauseam inducing: please make sure it is a question that would be new to most members\n
        5. [An actual topic of discussion](https://lemmy.ml/post/1239589)\n
        \n
        Support alternatives:\n
        \n
        - [!lemmy_support@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/lemmy_support)\n
        - [!nostupidlemmyquestions@lemmy.dbzer0.com](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/nostupidlemmyquestions)\n
        - [!selfhosted@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/selfhosted)\n
        \n
        ~Icon~ ~by~ ~@Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de~
        """
      +rules: null
      +subscriptionsCount: 0
      +entryCount: 580
      +entryCommentCount: 15558
      +postCount: 7
      +postCommentCount: 129
      +isAdult: false
      +customCss: null
      +lastActive: DateTime @1689748304 {#275
        date: 2023-07-19 08:31:44.0 +02:00
      }
      +markedForDeletionAt: null
      +tags: null
      +moderators: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#237 …}
      +ownershipRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#233 …}
      +moderatorRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#222 …}
      +entries: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#180 …}
      +posts: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#138 …}
      +subscriptions: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#200 …}
      +bans: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#117 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#103 …}
      +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#81 …}
      +logs: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#71 …}
      +awards: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1346 …}
      +categories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1823 …}
      -id: 9
      +apId: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +apProfileId: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apPublicUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apFollowersUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy/followers"
      +apInboxUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/inbox"
      +apDomain: "lemmy.ml"
      +apPreferredUsername: "asklemmy"
      +apDiscoverable: true
      +apManuallyApprovesFollowers: null
      +privateKey: null
      +publicKey: null
      +apFetchedAt: DateTime @1689747596 {#269
        date: 2023-07-19 08:19:56.0 +02:00
      }
      +apDeletedAt: null
      +apTimeoutAt: null
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1686889707 {#271
        date: 2023-06-16 06:28:27.0 +02:00
      }
    }
    +image: null
    +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#1915 …}
    +slug: "Best-options-for-Non-Google-cloud-storage-as-of-2022"
    +title: "Best options for Non-Google cloud storage as of 2022?"
    +url: null
    +body: """
      What are Lemmy’s feelings about the best cloud storage options these days, if you really want to break into the 1-2TB range? I’m not there yet, probably not even halfway there, but I like the peace of mind of potentially having the space if I need it. And I think subscribing to something in the Netflix price range is maybe something I’m ready for.\n
      \n
      My thoughts so far:\n
      \n
      [pcloud](https://www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime) - Intriguing because you can pay for a “lifetime” plan of 2TB of storage. But it’s $350, which is a lot, and I don’t know that I love the interface or usability, and I don’t know if I trust them.\n
      \n
      [iDrive](https://www.idrive.com/pricing) - Super affordable. 5tb for “just” $80/year. It might be the best deal, but nothing about their identity suggests to me that they are “good guys.” By which I mean, I’m not sure I trust them to make long-term promises for any specific plan.\n
      \n
      [Mega](https://mega.io/pro) - I like its very anti-google, very encrypted attitude. Born from the ashes of megaupload, they built encryption and zero knowledge into it. I LOVE that you can connect to it through the android app Solid Explorer and therefore don’t even need the mega app if you don’t want it. I hear bad things about it though? And it’s pretty expensive at $115 per year for 2TB.\n
      \n
      My personal thoughts/reasoning/caveats:\n
      \n
      **Homebrew stuff**: I don’t *quite* trust myself to use a homebrew setup like Nextcloud or Syncthing correctly. There’s too much in terms of labor, upkeep, catastrophic single points of failure where you could lose everything. I feel like I’m 70% of the way to being smart enough to do this.\n
      \n
      **Avoiding the Bad Guys and the Free Stuff**: I’ve tried the free version of just about everything, from Google to Onedrive to Dropbox to Mediafire to Mega. There’s even an android app that offers 1 free terrabyte?? But I don’t want something from the bad guys where I’m going to be integrated into their closed source death drap: Google, Amazon, Microsoft, Apple, and I don’t want a too-good-to-be-true free service where I’m the product.\n
      \n
      I also would prefer to avoid something from the upstarts who kinda-sorta imitate the bad guys: Dropbox, Mediafire, Box. Because I’m not sure how much I can trust any specific long term promise from them.\n
      \n
      **It sounds like you’re saying nothing is good enough! What exactly do you want!?** Something from good guys, not bad guys. Something like [Standardnotes](https://standardnotes.com/), but for file storage. They emphasize privacy, good governance principles and longevity of their service. Or [Linode](https://www.linode.com/support-experience/), with their independence, sense of mission, love of Linux & free software, all of which tells me they are good guys.\n
      \n
      Probably the correct answer is (1) here’s this magical perfect source I never thought of, or (2) I’m thinking this much about it, I should probably do Nextcloud or syncthing given all the constraints that I’m putting out there.\n
      \n
      Anyway, that’s my thoughts on cloud storage. What are yours?
      """
    +type: "article"
    +lang: "en"
    +isOc: false
    +hasEmbed: false
    +commentCount: 25
    +favouriteCount: 41
    +score: 0
    +isAdult: false
    +sticky: false
    +lastActive: DateTime @1689719793 {#2414
      date: 2023-07-19 00:36:33.0 +02:00
    }
    +ip: null
    +adaAmount: 0
    +tags: null
    +mentions: null
    +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1884 …}
    +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1973 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1959 …}
    +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1927 …}
    +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2442 …}
    +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2440 …}
    +children: []
    -id: 1294
    -titleTs: "'2022':11 'best':1 'cloud':7 'googl':6 'non':5 'non-googl':4 'option':2 'storag':8"
    -bodyTs: "'-2':23 '/),':451 '/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':77 '/pricing)':123 '/pro)':173 '/support-experience/),':471 '1':22,337,497 '115':240 '2':509 '2tb':88,244 '350':94 '5tb':126 '70':290 '80/year':129 'afford':125 'also':387 'amazon':364 'android':208,333 'answer':495 'anti':179 'anti-googl':178 'anyway':534 'app':209,220,334 'appl':366 'ash':187 'attitud':183 'avoid':301,391 'bad':229,303,348,402,444 'best':8,134 'born':184 'box':406 'break':19 'built':191 'catastroph':275 'close':359 'cloud':9,540 'connect':203 'constraint':527 'correct':265,494 'could':282 'day':13 'deal':135 'death':361 'drap':362 'dropbox':324,404 'emphas':457 'encrypt':182,192 'enough':297,433 'even':33,216,331 'everyth':284,318 'exact':435 'expens':238 'explor':211 'failur':279 'far':73 'feel':5,286 'file':454 'free':307,313,338,379,481 'given':524 'go':353 'good':147,375,432,441,459,490 'googl':180,320,363 'govern':460 'guy':148,304,349,403,442,445,491 'halfway':34 'hear':228 'homebrew':248,259 'ident':140 'idriv':120 'imit':400 'independ':474 'integr':356 'interfac':108 'intrigu':78 'kinda':398 'kinda-sorta':397 'know':103,115 'knowledg':195 'labor':273 'lemmi':3 'lifetim':85 'like':38,175,261,287,426,447 'linod':468 'linux':480 'long':163,419 'long-term':162 'longev':463 'lose':283 'lot':98 'love':106,199,478 'm':27,67,154,289,352,383,409,511,530 'magic':501 'make':161 'mayb':64 'mean':152 'mediafir':326,405 'mega':170,219,328 'mega.io':172 'mega.io/pro)':171 'megaupload':189 'microsoft':365 'might':131 'mind':42 'mission':477 'much':269,413,514 'need':50,217 'netflix':60 'never':505 'nextcloud':262,521 'noth':137,430 'offer':336 'onedr':322 'option':11 'pay':82 'pcloud':74 'peac':40 'per':241 'perfect':502 'person':246 'plan':86,169 'point':277 'potenti':44 'prefer':389 'pretti':237 'price':61 'principl':461 'privaci':458 'probabl':31,492,519 'product':385 'promis':165,421 'put':531 'quit':253 'rang':25,62 're':428 'readi':68 'realli':16 'say':429 'sens':475 'servic':380,466 'setup':260 'singl':276 'smart':296 'softwar':482 'solid':210 'someth':57,65,345,392,439,446 'sorta':399 'sound':425 'sourc':360,503 'space':47 'specif':168,418 'standardnot':448 'standardnotes.com':450 'standardnotes.com/),':449 'storag':10,90,455,541 'stuff':249,308 'subscrib':55 'suggest':141 'super':124 'sure':156,411 'syncth':264,523 'tb':24 'tell':486 'term':164,271,420 'terrabyt':339 'therefor':213 'thing':230 'think':54,512 'though':233 'thought':71,506,538 'thoughts/reasoning/caveats':247 'too-good-to-be-tru':373 'tri':311 'true':378 'trust':118,158,254,416 'upkeep':274 'upstart':395 'usabl':110 'use':257 've':310 'version':314 'want':17,225,344,371,438 'way':293 'would':388 'www.idrive.com':122 'www.idrive.com/pricing)':121 'www.linode.com':470 'www.linode.com/support-experience/),':469 'www.pcloud.com':76 'www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':75 'year':242 'yet':30 'zero':194"
    +cross: false
    +upVotes: 0
    +downVotes: 0
    +ranking: 1642260128
    +visibility: "visible             "
    +apId: "https://lemmy.ml/post/149005"
    +editedAt: null
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1642173728 {#1793
      date: 2022-01-14 16:22:08.0 +01:00
    }
  }
  +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
  +image: null
  +parent: null
  +root: null
  +body: """
    I use resilio, which is a peer to peer storage based on BitTorrent. I don’t remember syncthing’s base protocol, but it sounds like it meets the same goals.\n
    \n
    Resilio offers apps for my phone, NAS, Mac, pc, etc. For my phone I use selective sync for a few key folders instead of the whole thing.\n
    \n
    These don’t get me location redundancy unless I tuck another device offsite. Most people don’t have 2 secure enough locations for this.
    """
  +lang: "en"
  +isAdult: false
  +favouriteCount: 0
  +score: 0
  +lastActive: DateTime @1689430092 {#4584
    date: 2023-07-15 16:08:12.0 +02:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +tags: null
  +mentions: [
    "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
  ]
  +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4590 …}
  +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4592 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4594 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4596 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4598 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4600 …}
  -id: 18129
  -bodyTs: "'2':76 'anoth':68 'app':33 'base':11,20 'bittorr':13 'devic':69 'enough':78 'etc':40 'folder':52 'get':61 'goal':30 'instead':53 'key':51 'like':25 'locat':63,79 'mac':38 'meet':27 'nas':37 'offer':32 'offsit':70 'pc':39 'peer':7,9 'peopl':72 'phone':36,43 'protocol':21 'redund':64 'rememb':17 'resilio':3,31 'secur':77 'select':46 'sound':24 'storag':10 'sync':47 'syncth':18 'thing':57 'tuck':67 'unless':65 'use':2,45 'whole':56"
  +ranking: 0
  +commentCount: 0
  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://lemmy.world/comment/1301970"
  +editedAt: null
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689430092 {#4585
    date: 2023-07-15 16:08:12.0 +02:00
  }
}
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
60 DENIED moderate 
App\Entity\EntryComment {#4589
  +user: App\Entity\User {#4602 …}
  +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419
    +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#1970 …}
    +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265
      +icon: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#246 …}
      +name: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +title: "asklemmy"
      +description: """
        A loosely moderated place to ask open-ended questions\n
        \n
        **[Search asklemmy](https://lemmy.ml/search?q=&type=Posts&listingType=All&communityId=8&page=1&sort=TopAll) 🔍**\n
        \n
        If your post meets the following criteria, it’s welcome here!\n
        \n
        1. Open-ended\n
        2. Not offensive: at this point, we do not have the bandwidth to moderate overtly political discussions\n
        3. **Not regarding using or support for Lemmy**: [context](https://lemmy.ml/post/1223478), find help in the list of support alternatives below\n
        4. Not ad nauseam inducing: please make sure it is a question that would be new to most members\n
        5. [An actual topic of discussion](https://lemmy.ml/post/1239589)\n
        \n
        Support alternatives:\n
        \n
        - [!lemmy_support@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/lemmy_support)\n
        - [!nostupidlemmyquestions@lemmy.dbzer0.com](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/nostupidlemmyquestions)\n
        - [!selfhosted@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/selfhosted)\n
        \n
        ~Icon~ ~by~ ~@Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de~
        """
      +rules: null
      +subscriptionsCount: 0
      +entryCount: 580
      +entryCommentCount: 15558
      +postCount: 7
      +postCommentCount: 129
      +isAdult: false
      +customCss: null
      +lastActive: DateTime @1689748304 {#275
        date: 2023-07-19 08:31:44.0 +02:00
      }
      +markedForDeletionAt: null
      +tags: null
      +moderators: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#237 …}
      +ownershipRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#233 …}
      +moderatorRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#222 …}
      +entries: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#180 …}
      +posts: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#138 …}
      +subscriptions: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#200 …}
      +bans: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#117 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#103 …}
      +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#81 …}
      +logs: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#71 …}
      +awards: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1346 …}
      +categories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1823 …}
      -id: 9
      +apId: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +apProfileId: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apPublicUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apFollowersUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy/followers"
      +apInboxUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/inbox"
      +apDomain: "lemmy.ml"
      +apPreferredUsername: "asklemmy"
      +apDiscoverable: true
      +apManuallyApprovesFollowers: null
      +privateKey: null
      +publicKey: null
      +apFetchedAt: DateTime @1689747596 {#269
        date: 2023-07-19 08:19:56.0 +02:00
      }
      +apDeletedAt: null
      +apTimeoutAt: null
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1686889707 {#271
        date: 2023-06-16 06:28:27.0 +02:00
      }
    }
    +image: null
    +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#1915 …}
    +slug: "Best-options-for-Non-Google-cloud-storage-as-of-2022"
    +title: "Best options for Non-Google cloud storage as of 2022?"
    +url: null
    +body: """
      What are Lemmy’s feelings about the best cloud storage options these days, if you really want to break into the 1-2TB range? I’m not there yet, probably not even halfway there, but I like the peace of mind of potentially having the space if I need it. And I think subscribing to something in the Netflix price range is maybe something I’m ready for.\n
      \n
      My thoughts so far:\n
      \n
      [pcloud](https://www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime) - Intriguing because you can pay for a “lifetime” plan of 2TB of storage. But it’s $350, which is a lot, and I don’t know that I love the interface or usability, and I don’t know if I trust them.\n
      \n
      [iDrive](https://www.idrive.com/pricing) - Super affordable. 5tb for “just” $80/year. It might be the best deal, but nothing about their identity suggests to me that they are “good guys.” By which I mean, I’m not sure I trust them to make long-term promises for any specific plan.\n
      \n
      [Mega](https://mega.io/pro) - I like its very anti-google, very encrypted attitude. Born from the ashes of megaupload, they built encryption and zero knowledge into it. I LOVE that you can connect to it through the android app Solid Explorer and therefore don’t even need the mega app if you don’t want it. I hear bad things about it though? And it’s pretty expensive at $115 per year for 2TB.\n
      \n
      My personal thoughts/reasoning/caveats:\n
      \n
      **Homebrew stuff**: I don’t *quite* trust myself to use a homebrew setup like Nextcloud or Syncthing correctly. There’s too much in terms of labor, upkeep, catastrophic single points of failure where you could lose everything. I feel like I’m 70% of the way to being smart enough to do this.\n
      \n
      **Avoiding the Bad Guys and the Free Stuff**: I’ve tried the free version of just about everything, from Google to Onedrive to Dropbox to Mediafire to Mega. There’s even an android app that offers 1 free terrabyte?? But I don’t want something from the bad guys where I’m going to be integrated into their closed source death drap: Google, Amazon, Microsoft, Apple, and I don’t want a too-good-to-be-true free service where I’m the product.\n
      \n
      I also would prefer to avoid something from the upstarts who kinda-sorta imitate the bad guys: Dropbox, Mediafire, Box. Because I’m not sure how much I can trust any specific long term promise from them.\n
      \n
      **It sounds like you’re saying nothing is good enough! What exactly do you want!?** Something from good guys, not bad guys. Something like [Standardnotes](https://standardnotes.com/), but for file storage. They emphasize privacy, good governance principles and longevity of their service. Or [Linode](https://www.linode.com/support-experience/), with their independence, sense of mission, love of Linux & free software, all of which tells me they are good guys.\n
      \n
      Probably the correct answer is (1) here’s this magical perfect source I never thought of, or (2) I’m thinking this much about it, I should probably do Nextcloud or syncthing given all the constraints that I’m putting out there.\n
      \n
      Anyway, that’s my thoughts on cloud storage. What are yours?
      """
    +type: "article"
    +lang: "en"
    +isOc: false
    +hasEmbed: false
    +commentCount: 25
    +favouriteCount: 41
    +score: 0
    +isAdult: false
    +sticky: false
    +lastActive: DateTime @1689719793 {#2414
      date: 2023-07-19 00:36:33.0 +02:00
    }
    +ip: null
    +adaAmount: 0
    +tags: null
    +mentions: null
    +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1884 …}
    +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1973 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1959 …}
    +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1927 …}
    +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2442 …}
    +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2440 …}
    +children: []
    -id: 1294
    -titleTs: "'2022':11 'best':1 'cloud':7 'googl':6 'non':5 'non-googl':4 'option':2 'storag':8"
    -bodyTs: "'-2':23 '/),':451 '/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':77 '/pricing)':123 '/pro)':173 '/support-experience/),':471 '1':22,337,497 '115':240 '2':509 '2tb':88,244 '350':94 '5tb':126 '70':290 '80/year':129 'afford':125 'also':387 'amazon':364 'android':208,333 'answer':495 'anti':179 'anti-googl':178 'anyway':534 'app':209,220,334 'appl':366 'ash':187 'attitud':183 'avoid':301,391 'bad':229,303,348,402,444 'best':8,134 'born':184 'box':406 'break':19 'built':191 'catastroph':275 'close':359 'cloud':9,540 'connect':203 'constraint':527 'correct':265,494 'could':282 'day':13 'deal':135 'death':361 'drap':362 'dropbox':324,404 'emphas':457 'encrypt':182,192 'enough':297,433 'even':33,216,331 'everyth':284,318 'exact':435 'expens':238 'explor':211 'failur':279 'far':73 'feel':5,286 'file':454 'free':307,313,338,379,481 'given':524 'go':353 'good':147,375,432,441,459,490 'googl':180,320,363 'govern':460 'guy':148,304,349,403,442,445,491 'halfway':34 'hear':228 'homebrew':248,259 'ident':140 'idriv':120 'imit':400 'independ':474 'integr':356 'interfac':108 'intrigu':78 'kinda':398 'kinda-sorta':397 'know':103,115 'knowledg':195 'labor':273 'lemmi':3 'lifetim':85 'like':38,175,261,287,426,447 'linod':468 'linux':480 'long':163,419 'long-term':162 'longev':463 'lose':283 'lot':98 'love':106,199,478 'm':27,67,154,289,352,383,409,511,530 'magic':501 'make':161 'mayb':64 'mean':152 'mediafir':326,405 'mega':170,219,328 'mega.io':172 'mega.io/pro)':171 'megaupload':189 'microsoft':365 'might':131 'mind':42 'mission':477 'much':269,413,514 'need':50,217 'netflix':60 'never':505 'nextcloud':262,521 'noth':137,430 'offer':336 'onedr':322 'option':11 'pay':82 'pcloud':74 'peac':40 'per':241 'perfect':502 'person':246 'plan':86,169 'point':277 'potenti':44 'prefer':389 'pretti':237 'price':61 'principl':461 'privaci':458 'probabl':31,492,519 'product':385 'promis':165,421 'put':531 'quit':253 'rang':25,62 're':428 'readi':68 'realli':16 'say':429 'sens':475 'servic':380,466 'setup':260 'singl':276 'smart':296 'softwar':482 'solid':210 'someth':57,65,345,392,439,446 'sorta':399 'sound':425 'sourc':360,503 'space':47 'specif':168,418 'standardnot':448 'standardnotes.com':450 'standardnotes.com/),':449 'storag':10,90,455,541 'stuff':249,308 'subscrib':55 'suggest':141 'super':124 'sure':156,411 'syncth':264,523 'tb':24 'tell':486 'term':164,271,420 'terrabyt':339 'therefor':213 'thing':230 'think':54,512 'though':233 'thought':71,506,538 'thoughts/reasoning/caveats':247 'too-good-to-be-tru':373 'tri':311 'true':378 'trust':118,158,254,416 'upkeep':274 'upstart':395 'usabl':110 'use':257 've':310 'version':314 'want':17,225,344,371,438 'way':293 'would':388 'www.idrive.com':122 'www.idrive.com/pricing)':121 'www.linode.com':470 'www.linode.com/support-experience/),':469 'www.pcloud.com':76 'www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':75 'year':242 'yet':30 'zero':194"
    +cross: false
    +upVotes: 0
    +downVotes: 0
    +ranking: 1642260128
    +visibility: "visible             "
    +apId: "https://lemmy.ml/post/149005"
    +editedAt: null
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1642173728 {#1793
      date: 2022-01-14 16:22:08.0 +01:00
    }
  }
  +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
  +image: null
  +parent: null
  +root: null
  +body: """
    I use resilio, which is a peer to peer storage based on BitTorrent. I don’t remember syncthing’s base protocol, but it sounds like it meets the same goals.\n
    \n
    Resilio offers apps for my phone, NAS, Mac, pc, etc. For my phone I use selective sync for a few key folders instead of the whole thing.\n
    \n
    These don’t get me location redundancy unless I tuck another device offsite. Most people don’t have 2 secure enough locations for this.
    """
  +lang: "en"
  +isAdult: false
  +favouriteCount: 0
  +score: 0
  +lastActive: DateTime @1689430092 {#4584
    date: 2023-07-15 16:08:12.0 +02:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +tags: null
  +mentions: [
    "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
  ]
  +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4590 …}
  +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4592 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4594 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4596 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4598 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4600 …}
  -id: 18129
  -bodyTs: "'2':76 'anoth':68 'app':33 'base':11,20 'bittorr':13 'devic':69 'enough':78 'etc':40 'folder':52 'get':61 'goal':30 'instead':53 'key':51 'like':25 'locat':63,79 'mac':38 'meet':27 'nas':37 'offer':32 'offsit':70 'pc':39 'peer':7,9 'peopl':72 'phone':36,43 'protocol':21 'redund':64 'rememb':17 'resilio':3,31 'secur':77 'select':46 'sound':24 'storag':10 'sync':47 'syncth':18 'thing':57 'tuck':67 'unless':65 'use':2,45 'whole':56"
  +ranking: 0
  +commentCount: 0
  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://lemmy.world/comment/1301970"
  +editedAt: null
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689430092 {#4585
    date: 2023-07-15 16:08:12.0 +02:00
  }
}
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
61 DENIED ROLE_USER 
null
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
62 DENIED moderate 
App\Entity\EntryComment {#4664
  +user: App\Entity\User {#4677 …}
  +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419
    +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#1970 …}
    +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265
      +icon: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#246 …}
      +name: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +title: "asklemmy"
      +description: """
        A loosely moderated place to ask open-ended questions\n
        \n
        **[Search asklemmy](https://lemmy.ml/search?q=&type=Posts&listingType=All&communityId=8&page=1&sort=TopAll) 🔍**\n
        \n
        If your post meets the following criteria, it’s welcome here!\n
        \n
        1. Open-ended\n
        2. Not offensive: at this point, we do not have the bandwidth to moderate overtly political discussions\n
        3. **Not regarding using or support for Lemmy**: [context](https://lemmy.ml/post/1223478), find help in the list of support alternatives below\n
        4. Not ad nauseam inducing: please make sure it is a question that would be new to most members\n
        5. [An actual topic of discussion](https://lemmy.ml/post/1239589)\n
        \n
        Support alternatives:\n
        \n
        - [!lemmy_support@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/lemmy_support)\n
        - [!nostupidlemmyquestions@lemmy.dbzer0.com](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/nostupidlemmyquestions)\n
        - [!selfhosted@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/selfhosted)\n
        \n
        ~Icon~ ~by~ ~@Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de~
        """
      +rules: null
      +subscriptionsCount: 0
      +entryCount: 580
      +entryCommentCount: 15558
      +postCount: 7
      +postCommentCount: 129
      +isAdult: false
      +customCss: null
      +lastActive: DateTime @1689748304 {#275
        date: 2023-07-19 08:31:44.0 +02:00
      }
      +markedForDeletionAt: null
      +tags: null
      +moderators: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#237 …}
      +ownershipRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#233 …}
      +moderatorRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#222 …}
      +entries: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#180 …}
      +posts: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#138 …}
      +subscriptions: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#200 …}
      +bans: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#117 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#103 …}
      +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#81 …}
      +logs: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#71 …}
      +awards: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1346 …}
      +categories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1823 …}
      -id: 9
      +apId: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +apProfileId: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apPublicUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apFollowersUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy/followers"
      +apInboxUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/inbox"
      +apDomain: "lemmy.ml"
      +apPreferredUsername: "asklemmy"
      +apDiscoverable: true
      +apManuallyApprovesFollowers: null
      +privateKey: null
      +publicKey: null
      +apFetchedAt: DateTime @1689747596 {#269
        date: 2023-07-19 08:19:56.0 +02:00
      }
      +apDeletedAt: null
      +apTimeoutAt: null
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1686889707 {#271
        date: 2023-06-16 06:28:27.0 +02:00
      }
    }
    +image: null
    +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#1915 …}
    +slug: "Best-options-for-Non-Google-cloud-storage-as-of-2022"
    +title: "Best options for Non-Google cloud storage as of 2022?"
    +url: null
    +body: """
      What are Lemmy’s feelings about the best cloud storage options these days, if you really want to break into the 1-2TB range? I’m not there yet, probably not even halfway there, but I like the peace of mind of potentially having the space if I need it. And I think subscribing to something in the Netflix price range is maybe something I’m ready for.\n
      \n
      My thoughts so far:\n
      \n
      [pcloud](https://www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime) - Intriguing because you can pay for a “lifetime” plan of 2TB of storage. But it’s $350, which is a lot, and I don’t know that I love the interface or usability, and I don’t know if I trust them.\n
      \n
      [iDrive](https://www.idrive.com/pricing) - Super affordable. 5tb for “just” $80/year. It might be the best deal, but nothing about their identity suggests to me that they are “good guys.” By which I mean, I’m not sure I trust them to make long-term promises for any specific plan.\n
      \n
      [Mega](https://mega.io/pro) - I like its very anti-google, very encrypted attitude. Born from the ashes of megaupload, they built encryption and zero knowledge into it. I LOVE that you can connect to it through the android app Solid Explorer and therefore don’t even need the mega app if you don’t want it. I hear bad things about it though? And it’s pretty expensive at $115 per year for 2TB.\n
      \n
      My personal thoughts/reasoning/caveats:\n
      \n
      **Homebrew stuff**: I don’t *quite* trust myself to use a homebrew setup like Nextcloud or Syncthing correctly. There’s too much in terms of labor, upkeep, catastrophic single points of failure where you could lose everything. I feel like I’m 70% of the way to being smart enough to do this.\n
      \n
      **Avoiding the Bad Guys and the Free Stuff**: I’ve tried the free version of just about everything, from Google to Onedrive to Dropbox to Mediafire to Mega. There’s even an android app that offers 1 free terrabyte?? But I don’t want something from the bad guys where I’m going to be integrated into their closed source death drap: Google, Amazon, Microsoft, Apple, and I don’t want a too-good-to-be-true free service where I’m the product.\n
      \n
      I also would prefer to avoid something from the upstarts who kinda-sorta imitate the bad guys: Dropbox, Mediafire, Box. Because I’m not sure how much I can trust any specific long term promise from them.\n
      \n
      **It sounds like you’re saying nothing is good enough! What exactly do you want!?** Something from good guys, not bad guys. Something like [Standardnotes](https://standardnotes.com/), but for file storage. They emphasize privacy, good governance principles and longevity of their service. Or [Linode](https://www.linode.com/support-experience/), with their independence, sense of mission, love of Linux & free software, all of which tells me they are good guys.\n
      \n
      Probably the correct answer is (1) here’s this magical perfect source I never thought of, or (2) I’m thinking this much about it, I should probably do Nextcloud or syncthing given all the constraints that I’m putting out there.\n
      \n
      Anyway, that’s my thoughts on cloud storage. What are yours?
      """
    +type: "article"
    +lang: "en"
    +isOc: false
    +hasEmbed: false
    +commentCount: 25
    +favouriteCount: 41
    +score: 0
    +isAdult: false
    +sticky: false
    +lastActive: DateTime @1689719793 {#2414
      date: 2023-07-19 00:36:33.0 +02:00
    }
    +ip: null
    +adaAmount: 0
    +tags: null
    +mentions: null
    +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1884 …}
    +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1973 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1959 …}
    +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1927 …}
    +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2442 …}
    +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2440 …}
    +children: []
    -id: 1294
    -titleTs: "'2022':11 'best':1 'cloud':7 'googl':6 'non':5 'non-googl':4 'option':2 'storag':8"
    -bodyTs: "'-2':23 '/),':451 '/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':77 '/pricing)':123 '/pro)':173 '/support-experience/),':471 '1':22,337,497 '115':240 '2':509 '2tb':88,244 '350':94 '5tb':126 '70':290 '80/year':129 'afford':125 'also':387 'amazon':364 'android':208,333 'answer':495 'anti':179 'anti-googl':178 'anyway':534 'app':209,220,334 'appl':366 'ash':187 'attitud':183 'avoid':301,391 'bad':229,303,348,402,444 'best':8,134 'born':184 'box':406 'break':19 'built':191 'catastroph':275 'close':359 'cloud':9,540 'connect':203 'constraint':527 'correct':265,494 'could':282 'day':13 'deal':135 'death':361 'drap':362 'dropbox':324,404 'emphas':457 'encrypt':182,192 'enough':297,433 'even':33,216,331 'everyth':284,318 'exact':435 'expens':238 'explor':211 'failur':279 'far':73 'feel':5,286 'file':454 'free':307,313,338,379,481 'given':524 'go':353 'good':147,375,432,441,459,490 'googl':180,320,363 'govern':460 'guy':148,304,349,403,442,445,491 'halfway':34 'hear':228 'homebrew':248,259 'ident':140 'idriv':120 'imit':400 'independ':474 'integr':356 'interfac':108 'intrigu':78 'kinda':398 'kinda-sorta':397 'know':103,115 'knowledg':195 'labor':273 'lemmi':3 'lifetim':85 'like':38,175,261,287,426,447 'linod':468 'linux':480 'long':163,419 'long-term':162 'longev':463 'lose':283 'lot':98 'love':106,199,478 'm':27,67,154,289,352,383,409,511,530 'magic':501 'make':161 'mayb':64 'mean':152 'mediafir':326,405 'mega':170,219,328 'mega.io':172 'mega.io/pro)':171 'megaupload':189 'microsoft':365 'might':131 'mind':42 'mission':477 'much':269,413,514 'need':50,217 'netflix':60 'never':505 'nextcloud':262,521 'noth':137,430 'offer':336 'onedr':322 'option':11 'pay':82 'pcloud':74 'peac':40 'per':241 'perfect':502 'person':246 'plan':86,169 'point':277 'potenti':44 'prefer':389 'pretti':237 'price':61 'principl':461 'privaci':458 'probabl':31,492,519 'product':385 'promis':165,421 'put':531 'quit':253 'rang':25,62 're':428 'readi':68 'realli':16 'say':429 'sens':475 'servic':380,466 'setup':260 'singl':276 'smart':296 'softwar':482 'solid':210 'someth':57,65,345,392,439,446 'sorta':399 'sound':425 'sourc':360,503 'space':47 'specif':168,418 'standardnot':448 'standardnotes.com':450 'standardnotes.com/),':449 'storag':10,90,455,541 'stuff':249,308 'subscrib':55 'suggest':141 'super':124 'sure':156,411 'syncth':264,523 'tb':24 'tell':486 'term':164,271,420 'terrabyt':339 'therefor':213 'thing':230 'think':54,512 'though':233 'thought':71,506,538 'thoughts/reasoning/caveats':247 'too-good-to-be-tru':373 'tri':311 'true':378 'trust':118,158,254,416 'upkeep':274 'upstart':395 'usabl':110 'use':257 've':310 'version':314 'want':17,225,344,371,438 'way':293 'would':388 'www.idrive.com':122 'www.idrive.com/pricing)':121 'www.linode.com':470 'www.linode.com/support-experience/),':469 'www.pcloud.com':76 'www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':75 'year':242 'yet':30 'zero':194"
    +cross: false
    +upVotes: 0
    +downVotes: 0
    +ranking: 1642260128
    +visibility: "visible             "
    +apId: "https://lemmy.ml/post/149005"
    +editedAt: null
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1642173728 {#1793
      date: 2022-01-14 16:22:08.0 +01:00
    }
  }
  +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
  +image: null
  +parent: null
  +root: null
  +body: "Proton Drive maybe?"
  +lang: "en"
  +isAdult: false
  +favouriteCount: 12
  +score: 0
  +lastActive: DateTime @1689430811 {#4659
    date: 2023-07-15 16:20:11.0 +02:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +tags: null
  +mentions: [
    "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
  ]
  +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4665 …}
  +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4667 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4669 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4671 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4673 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4675 …}
  -id: 18012
  -bodyTs: "'drive':2 'mayb':3 'proton':1"
  +ranking: 0
  +commentCount: 0
  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://lemmy.world/comment/1299714"
  +editedAt: null
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689425669 {#4660
    date: 2023-07-15 14:54:29.0 +02:00
  }
}
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
63 DENIED edit 
App\Entity\EntryComment {#4664
  +user: App\Entity\User {#4677 …}
  +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419
    +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#1970 …}
    +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265
      +icon: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#246 …}
      +name: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +title: "asklemmy"
      +description: """
        A loosely moderated place to ask open-ended questions\n
        \n
        **[Search asklemmy](https://lemmy.ml/search?q=&type=Posts&listingType=All&communityId=8&page=1&sort=TopAll) 🔍**\n
        \n
        If your post meets the following criteria, it’s welcome here!\n
        \n
        1. Open-ended\n
        2. Not offensive: at this point, we do not have the bandwidth to moderate overtly political discussions\n
        3. **Not regarding using or support for Lemmy**: [context](https://lemmy.ml/post/1223478), find help in the list of support alternatives below\n
        4. Not ad nauseam inducing: please make sure it is a question that would be new to most members\n
        5. [An actual topic of discussion](https://lemmy.ml/post/1239589)\n
        \n
        Support alternatives:\n
        \n
        - [!lemmy_support@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/lemmy_support)\n
        - [!nostupidlemmyquestions@lemmy.dbzer0.com](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/nostupidlemmyquestions)\n
        - [!selfhosted@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/selfhosted)\n
        \n
        ~Icon~ ~by~ ~@Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de~
        """
      +rules: null
      +subscriptionsCount: 0
      +entryCount: 580
      +entryCommentCount: 15558
      +postCount: 7
      +postCommentCount: 129
      +isAdult: false
      +customCss: null
      +lastActive: DateTime @1689748304 {#275
        date: 2023-07-19 08:31:44.0 +02:00
      }
      +markedForDeletionAt: null
      +tags: null
      +moderators: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#237 …}
      +ownershipRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#233 …}
      +moderatorRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#222 …}
      +entries: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#180 …}
      +posts: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#138 …}
      +subscriptions: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#200 …}
      +bans: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#117 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#103 …}
      +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#81 …}
      +logs: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#71 …}
      +awards: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1346 …}
      +categories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1823 …}
      -id: 9
      +apId: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +apProfileId: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apPublicUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apFollowersUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy/followers"
      +apInboxUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/inbox"
      +apDomain: "lemmy.ml"
      +apPreferredUsername: "asklemmy"
      +apDiscoverable: true
      +apManuallyApprovesFollowers: null
      +privateKey: null
      +publicKey: null
      +apFetchedAt: DateTime @1689747596 {#269
        date: 2023-07-19 08:19:56.0 +02:00
      }
      +apDeletedAt: null
      +apTimeoutAt: null
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1686889707 {#271
        date: 2023-06-16 06:28:27.0 +02:00
      }
    }
    +image: null
    +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#1915 …}
    +slug: "Best-options-for-Non-Google-cloud-storage-as-of-2022"
    +title: "Best options for Non-Google cloud storage as of 2022?"
    +url: null
    +body: """
      What are Lemmy’s feelings about the best cloud storage options these days, if you really want to break into the 1-2TB range? I’m not there yet, probably not even halfway there, but I like the peace of mind of potentially having the space if I need it. And I think subscribing to something in the Netflix price range is maybe something I’m ready for.\n
      \n
      My thoughts so far:\n
      \n
      [pcloud](https://www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime) - Intriguing because you can pay for a “lifetime” plan of 2TB of storage. But it’s $350, which is a lot, and I don’t know that I love the interface or usability, and I don’t know if I trust them.\n
      \n
      [iDrive](https://www.idrive.com/pricing) - Super affordable. 5tb for “just” $80/year. It might be the best deal, but nothing about their identity suggests to me that they are “good guys.” By which I mean, I’m not sure I trust them to make long-term promises for any specific plan.\n
      \n
      [Mega](https://mega.io/pro) - I like its very anti-google, very encrypted attitude. Born from the ashes of megaupload, they built encryption and zero knowledge into it. I LOVE that you can connect to it through the android app Solid Explorer and therefore don’t even need the mega app if you don’t want it. I hear bad things about it though? And it’s pretty expensive at $115 per year for 2TB.\n
      \n
      My personal thoughts/reasoning/caveats:\n
      \n
      **Homebrew stuff**: I don’t *quite* trust myself to use a homebrew setup like Nextcloud or Syncthing correctly. There’s too much in terms of labor, upkeep, catastrophic single points of failure where you could lose everything. I feel like I’m 70% of the way to being smart enough to do this.\n
      \n
      **Avoiding the Bad Guys and the Free Stuff**: I’ve tried the free version of just about everything, from Google to Onedrive to Dropbox to Mediafire to Mega. There’s even an android app that offers 1 free terrabyte?? But I don’t want something from the bad guys where I’m going to be integrated into their closed source death drap: Google, Amazon, Microsoft, Apple, and I don’t want a too-good-to-be-true free service where I’m the product.\n
      \n
      I also would prefer to avoid something from the upstarts who kinda-sorta imitate the bad guys: Dropbox, Mediafire, Box. Because I’m not sure how much I can trust any specific long term promise from them.\n
      \n
      **It sounds like you’re saying nothing is good enough! What exactly do you want!?** Something from good guys, not bad guys. Something like [Standardnotes](https://standardnotes.com/), but for file storage. They emphasize privacy, good governance principles and longevity of their service. Or [Linode](https://www.linode.com/support-experience/), with their independence, sense of mission, love of Linux & free software, all of which tells me they are good guys.\n
      \n
      Probably the correct answer is (1) here’s this magical perfect source I never thought of, or (2) I’m thinking this much about it, I should probably do Nextcloud or syncthing given all the constraints that I’m putting out there.\n
      \n
      Anyway, that’s my thoughts on cloud storage. What are yours?
      """
    +type: "article"
    +lang: "en"
    +isOc: false
    +hasEmbed: false
    +commentCount: 25
    +favouriteCount: 41
    +score: 0
    +isAdult: false
    +sticky: false
    +lastActive: DateTime @1689719793 {#2414
      date: 2023-07-19 00:36:33.0 +02:00
    }
    +ip: null
    +adaAmount: 0
    +tags: null
    +mentions: null
    +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1884 …}
    +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1973 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1959 …}
    +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1927 …}
    +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2442 …}
    +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2440 …}
    +children: []
    -id: 1294
    -titleTs: "'2022':11 'best':1 'cloud':7 'googl':6 'non':5 'non-googl':4 'option':2 'storag':8"
    -bodyTs: "'-2':23 '/),':451 '/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':77 '/pricing)':123 '/pro)':173 '/support-experience/),':471 '1':22,337,497 '115':240 '2':509 '2tb':88,244 '350':94 '5tb':126 '70':290 '80/year':129 'afford':125 'also':387 'amazon':364 'android':208,333 'answer':495 'anti':179 'anti-googl':178 'anyway':534 'app':209,220,334 'appl':366 'ash':187 'attitud':183 'avoid':301,391 'bad':229,303,348,402,444 'best':8,134 'born':184 'box':406 'break':19 'built':191 'catastroph':275 'close':359 'cloud':9,540 'connect':203 'constraint':527 'correct':265,494 'could':282 'day':13 'deal':135 'death':361 'drap':362 'dropbox':324,404 'emphas':457 'encrypt':182,192 'enough':297,433 'even':33,216,331 'everyth':284,318 'exact':435 'expens':238 'explor':211 'failur':279 'far':73 'feel':5,286 'file':454 'free':307,313,338,379,481 'given':524 'go':353 'good':147,375,432,441,459,490 'googl':180,320,363 'govern':460 'guy':148,304,349,403,442,445,491 'halfway':34 'hear':228 'homebrew':248,259 'ident':140 'idriv':120 'imit':400 'independ':474 'integr':356 'interfac':108 'intrigu':78 'kinda':398 'kinda-sorta':397 'know':103,115 'knowledg':195 'labor':273 'lemmi':3 'lifetim':85 'like':38,175,261,287,426,447 'linod':468 'linux':480 'long':163,419 'long-term':162 'longev':463 'lose':283 'lot':98 'love':106,199,478 'm':27,67,154,289,352,383,409,511,530 'magic':501 'make':161 'mayb':64 'mean':152 'mediafir':326,405 'mega':170,219,328 'mega.io':172 'mega.io/pro)':171 'megaupload':189 'microsoft':365 'might':131 'mind':42 'mission':477 'much':269,413,514 'need':50,217 'netflix':60 'never':505 'nextcloud':262,521 'noth':137,430 'offer':336 'onedr':322 'option':11 'pay':82 'pcloud':74 'peac':40 'per':241 'perfect':502 'person':246 'plan':86,169 'point':277 'potenti':44 'prefer':389 'pretti':237 'price':61 'principl':461 'privaci':458 'probabl':31,492,519 'product':385 'promis':165,421 'put':531 'quit':253 'rang':25,62 're':428 'readi':68 'realli':16 'say':429 'sens':475 'servic':380,466 'setup':260 'singl':276 'smart':296 'softwar':482 'solid':210 'someth':57,65,345,392,439,446 'sorta':399 'sound':425 'sourc':360,503 'space':47 'specif':168,418 'standardnot':448 'standardnotes.com':450 'standardnotes.com/),':449 'storag':10,90,455,541 'stuff':249,308 'subscrib':55 'suggest':141 'super':124 'sure':156,411 'syncth':264,523 'tb':24 'tell':486 'term':164,271,420 'terrabyt':339 'therefor':213 'thing':230 'think':54,512 'though':233 'thought':71,506,538 'thoughts/reasoning/caveats':247 'too-good-to-be-tru':373 'tri':311 'true':378 'trust':118,158,254,416 'upkeep':274 'upstart':395 'usabl':110 'use':257 've':310 'version':314 'want':17,225,344,371,438 'way':293 'would':388 'www.idrive.com':122 'www.idrive.com/pricing)':121 'www.linode.com':470 'www.linode.com/support-experience/),':469 'www.pcloud.com':76 'www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':75 'year':242 'yet':30 'zero':194"
    +cross: false
    +upVotes: 0
    +downVotes: 0
    +ranking: 1642260128
    +visibility: "visible             "
    +apId: "https://lemmy.ml/post/149005"
    +editedAt: null
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1642173728 {#1793
      date: 2022-01-14 16:22:08.0 +01:00
    }
  }
  +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
  +image: null
  +parent: null
  +root: null
  +body: "Proton Drive maybe?"
  +lang: "en"
  +isAdult: false
  +favouriteCount: 12
  +score: 0
  +lastActive: DateTime @1689430811 {#4659
    date: 2023-07-15 16:20:11.0 +02:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +tags: null
  +mentions: [
    "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
  ]
  +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4665 …}
  +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4667 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4669 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4671 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4673 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4675 …}
  -id: 18012
  -bodyTs: "'drive':2 'mayb':3 'proton':1"
  +ranking: 0
  +commentCount: 0
  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://lemmy.world/comment/1299714"
  +editedAt: null
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689425669 {#4660
    date: 2023-07-15 14:54:29.0 +02:00
  }
}
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
64 DENIED moderate 
App\Entity\EntryComment {#4664
  +user: App\Entity\User {#4677 …}
  +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419
    +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#1970 …}
    +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265
      +icon: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#246 …}
      +name: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +title: "asklemmy"
      +description: """
        A loosely moderated place to ask open-ended questions\n
        \n
        **[Search asklemmy](https://lemmy.ml/search?q=&type=Posts&listingType=All&communityId=8&page=1&sort=TopAll) 🔍**\n
        \n
        If your post meets the following criteria, it’s welcome here!\n
        \n
        1. Open-ended\n
        2. Not offensive: at this point, we do not have the bandwidth to moderate overtly political discussions\n
        3. **Not regarding using or support for Lemmy**: [context](https://lemmy.ml/post/1223478), find help in the list of support alternatives below\n
        4. Not ad nauseam inducing: please make sure it is a question that would be new to most members\n
        5. [An actual topic of discussion](https://lemmy.ml/post/1239589)\n
        \n
        Support alternatives:\n
        \n
        - [!lemmy_support@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/lemmy_support)\n
        - [!nostupidlemmyquestions@lemmy.dbzer0.com](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/nostupidlemmyquestions)\n
        - [!selfhosted@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/selfhosted)\n
        \n
        ~Icon~ ~by~ ~@Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de~
        """
      +rules: null
      +subscriptionsCount: 0
      +entryCount: 580
      +entryCommentCount: 15558
      +postCount: 7
      +postCommentCount: 129
      +isAdult: false
      +customCss: null
      +lastActive: DateTime @1689748304 {#275
        date: 2023-07-19 08:31:44.0 +02:00
      }
      +markedForDeletionAt: null
      +tags: null
      +moderators: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#237 …}
      +ownershipRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#233 …}
      +moderatorRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#222 …}
      +entries: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#180 …}
      +posts: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#138 …}
      +subscriptions: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#200 …}
      +bans: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#117 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#103 …}
      +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#81 …}
      +logs: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#71 …}
      +awards: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1346 …}
      +categories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1823 …}
      -id: 9
      +apId: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +apProfileId: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apPublicUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apFollowersUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy/followers"
      +apInboxUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/inbox"
      +apDomain: "lemmy.ml"
      +apPreferredUsername: "asklemmy"
      +apDiscoverable: true
      +apManuallyApprovesFollowers: null
      +privateKey: null
      +publicKey: null
      +apFetchedAt: DateTime @1689747596 {#269
        date: 2023-07-19 08:19:56.0 +02:00
      }
      +apDeletedAt: null
      +apTimeoutAt: null
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1686889707 {#271
        date: 2023-06-16 06:28:27.0 +02:00
      }
    }
    +image: null
    +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#1915 …}
    +slug: "Best-options-for-Non-Google-cloud-storage-as-of-2022"
    +title: "Best options for Non-Google cloud storage as of 2022?"
    +url: null
    +body: """
      What are Lemmy’s feelings about the best cloud storage options these days, if you really want to break into the 1-2TB range? I’m not there yet, probably not even halfway there, but I like the peace of mind of potentially having the space if I need it. And I think subscribing to something in the Netflix price range is maybe something I’m ready for.\n
      \n
      My thoughts so far:\n
      \n
      [pcloud](https://www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime) - Intriguing because you can pay for a “lifetime” plan of 2TB of storage. But it’s $350, which is a lot, and I don’t know that I love the interface or usability, and I don’t know if I trust them.\n
      \n
      [iDrive](https://www.idrive.com/pricing) - Super affordable. 5tb for “just” $80/year. It might be the best deal, but nothing about their identity suggests to me that they are “good guys.” By which I mean, I’m not sure I trust them to make long-term promises for any specific plan.\n
      \n
      [Mega](https://mega.io/pro) - I like its very anti-google, very encrypted attitude. Born from the ashes of megaupload, they built encryption and zero knowledge into it. I LOVE that you can connect to it through the android app Solid Explorer and therefore don’t even need the mega app if you don’t want it. I hear bad things about it though? And it’s pretty expensive at $115 per year for 2TB.\n
      \n
      My personal thoughts/reasoning/caveats:\n
      \n
      **Homebrew stuff**: I don’t *quite* trust myself to use a homebrew setup like Nextcloud or Syncthing correctly. There’s too much in terms of labor, upkeep, catastrophic single points of failure where you could lose everything. I feel like I’m 70% of the way to being smart enough to do this.\n
      \n
      **Avoiding the Bad Guys and the Free Stuff**: I’ve tried the free version of just about everything, from Google to Onedrive to Dropbox to Mediafire to Mega. There’s even an android app that offers 1 free terrabyte?? But I don’t want something from the bad guys where I’m going to be integrated into their closed source death drap: Google, Amazon, Microsoft, Apple, and I don’t want a too-good-to-be-true free service where I’m the product.\n
      \n
      I also would prefer to avoid something from the upstarts who kinda-sorta imitate the bad guys: Dropbox, Mediafire, Box. Because I’m not sure how much I can trust any specific long term promise from them.\n
      \n
      **It sounds like you’re saying nothing is good enough! What exactly do you want!?** Something from good guys, not bad guys. Something like [Standardnotes](https://standardnotes.com/), but for file storage. They emphasize privacy, good governance principles and longevity of their service. Or [Linode](https://www.linode.com/support-experience/), with their independence, sense of mission, love of Linux & free software, all of which tells me they are good guys.\n
      \n
      Probably the correct answer is (1) here’s this magical perfect source I never thought of, or (2) I’m thinking this much about it, I should probably do Nextcloud or syncthing given all the constraints that I’m putting out there.\n
      \n
      Anyway, that’s my thoughts on cloud storage. What are yours?
      """
    +type: "article"
    +lang: "en"
    +isOc: false
    +hasEmbed: false
    +commentCount: 25
    +favouriteCount: 41
    +score: 0
    +isAdult: false
    +sticky: false
    +lastActive: DateTime @1689719793 {#2414
      date: 2023-07-19 00:36:33.0 +02:00
    }
    +ip: null
    +adaAmount: 0
    +tags: null
    +mentions: null
    +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1884 …}
    +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1973 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1959 …}
    +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1927 …}
    +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2442 …}
    +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2440 …}
    +children: []
    -id: 1294
    -titleTs: "'2022':11 'best':1 'cloud':7 'googl':6 'non':5 'non-googl':4 'option':2 'storag':8"
    -bodyTs: "'-2':23 '/),':451 '/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':77 '/pricing)':123 '/pro)':173 '/support-experience/),':471 '1':22,337,497 '115':240 '2':509 '2tb':88,244 '350':94 '5tb':126 '70':290 '80/year':129 'afford':125 'also':387 'amazon':364 'android':208,333 'answer':495 'anti':179 'anti-googl':178 'anyway':534 'app':209,220,334 'appl':366 'ash':187 'attitud':183 'avoid':301,391 'bad':229,303,348,402,444 'best':8,134 'born':184 'box':406 'break':19 'built':191 'catastroph':275 'close':359 'cloud':9,540 'connect':203 'constraint':527 'correct':265,494 'could':282 'day':13 'deal':135 'death':361 'drap':362 'dropbox':324,404 'emphas':457 'encrypt':182,192 'enough':297,433 'even':33,216,331 'everyth':284,318 'exact':435 'expens':238 'explor':211 'failur':279 'far':73 'feel':5,286 'file':454 'free':307,313,338,379,481 'given':524 'go':353 'good':147,375,432,441,459,490 'googl':180,320,363 'govern':460 'guy':148,304,349,403,442,445,491 'halfway':34 'hear':228 'homebrew':248,259 'ident':140 'idriv':120 'imit':400 'independ':474 'integr':356 'interfac':108 'intrigu':78 'kinda':398 'kinda-sorta':397 'know':103,115 'knowledg':195 'labor':273 'lemmi':3 'lifetim':85 'like':38,175,261,287,426,447 'linod':468 'linux':480 'long':163,419 'long-term':162 'longev':463 'lose':283 'lot':98 'love':106,199,478 'm':27,67,154,289,352,383,409,511,530 'magic':501 'make':161 'mayb':64 'mean':152 'mediafir':326,405 'mega':170,219,328 'mega.io':172 'mega.io/pro)':171 'megaupload':189 'microsoft':365 'might':131 'mind':42 'mission':477 'much':269,413,514 'need':50,217 'netflix':60 'never':505 'nextcloud':262,521 'noth':137,430 'offer':336 'onedr':322 'option':11 'pay':82 'pcloud':74 'peac':40 'per':241 'perfect':502 'person':246 'plan':86,169 'point':277 'potenti':44 'prefer':389 'pretti':237 'price':61 'principl':461 'privaci':458 'probabl':31,492,519 'product':385 'promis':165,421 'put':531 'quit':253 'rang':25,62 're':428 'readi':68 'realli':16 'say':429 'sens':475 'servic':380,466 'setup':260 'singl':276 'smart':296 'softwar':482 'solid':210 'someth':57,65,345,392,439,446 'sorta':399 'sound':425 'sourc':360,503 'space':47 'specif':168,418 'standardnot':448 'standardnotes.com':450 'standardnotes.com/),':449 'storag':10,90,455,541 'stuff':249,308 'subscrib':55 'suggest':141 'super':124 'sure':156,411 'syncth':264,523 'tb':24 'tell':486 'term':164,271,420 'terrabyt':339 'therefor':213 'thing':230 'think':54,512 'though':233 'thought':71,506,538 'thoughts/reasoning/caveats':247 'too-good-to-be-tru':373 'tri':311 'true':378 'trust':118,158,254,416 'upkeep':274 'upstart':395 'usabl':110 'use':257 've':310 'version':314 'want':17,225,344,371,438 'way':293 'would':388 'www.idrive.com':122 'www.idrive.com/pricing)':121 'www.linode.com':470 'www.linode.com/support-experience/),':469 'www.pcloud.com':76 'www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':75 'year':242 'yet':30 'zero':194"
    +cross: false
    +upVotes: 0
    +downVotes: 0
    +ranking: 1642260128
    +visibility: "visible             "
    +apId: "https://lemmy.ml/post/149005"
    +editedAt: null
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1642173728 {#1793
      date: 2022-01-14 16:22:08.0 +01:00
    }
  }
  +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
  +image: null
  +parent: null
  +root: null
  +body: "Proton Drive maybe?"
  +lang: "en"
  +isAdult: false
  +favouriteCount: 12
  +score: 0
  +lastActive: DateTime @1689430811 {#4659
    date: 2023-07-15 16:20:11.0 +02:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +tags: null
  +mentions: [
    "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
  ]
  +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4665 …}
  +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4667 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4669 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4671 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4673 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4675 …}
  -id: 18012
  -bodyTs: "'drive':2 'mayb':3 'proton':1"
  +ranking: 0
  +commentCount: 0
  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://lemmy.world/comment/1299714"
  +editedAt: null
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689425669 {#4660
    date: 2023-07-15 14:54:29.0 +02:00
  }
}
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
65 DENIED ROLE_USER 
null
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
66 DENIED moderate 
App\Entity\EntryComment {#4944
  +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#4945 …}
  +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419
    +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#1970 …}
    +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265
      +icon: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#246 …}
      +name: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +title: "asklemmy"
      +description: """
        A loosely moderated place to ask open-ended questions\n
        \n
        **[Search asklemmy](https://lemmy.ml/search?q=&type=Posts&listingType=All&communityId=8&page=1&sort=TopAll) 🔍**\n
        \n
        If your post meets the following criteria, it’s welcome here!\n
        \n
        1. Open-ended\n
        2. Not offensive: at this point, we do not have the bandwidth to moderate overtly political discussions\n
        3. **Not regarding using or support for Lemmy**: [context](https://lemmy.ml/post/1223478), find help in the list of support alternatives below\n
        4. Not ad nauseam inducing: please make sure it is a question that would be new to most members\n
        5. [An actual topic of discussion](https://lemmy.ml/post/1239589)\n
        \n
        Support alternatives:\n
        \n
        - [!lemmy_support@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/lemmy_support)\n
        - [!nostupidlemmyquestions@lemmy.dbzer0.com](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/nostupidlemmyquestions)\n
        - [!selfhosted@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/selfhosted)\n
        \n
        ~Icon~ ~by~ ~@Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de~
        """
      +rules: null
      +subscriptionsCount: 0
      +entryCount: 580
      +entryCommentCount: 15558
      +postCount: 7
      +postCommentCount: 129
      +isAdult: false
      +customCss: null
      +lastActive: DateTime @1689748304 {#275
        date: 2023-07-19 08:31:44.0 +02:00
      }
      +markedForDeletionAt: null
      +tags: null
      +moderators: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#237 …}
      +ownershipRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#233 …}
      +moderatorRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#222 …}
      +entries: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#180 …}
      +posts: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#138 …}
      +subscriptions: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#200 …}
      +bans: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#117 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#103 …}
      +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#81 …}
      +logs: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#71 …}
      +awards: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1346 …}
      +categories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1823 …}
      -id: 9
      +apId: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +apProfileId: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apPublicUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apFollowersUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy/followers"
      +apInboxUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/inbox"
      +apDomain: "lemmy.ml"
      +apPreferredUsername: "asklemmy"
      +apDiscoverable: true
      +apManuallyApprovesFollowers: null
      +privateKey: null
      +publicKey: null
      +apFetchedAt: DateTime @1689747596 {#269
        date: 2023-07-19 08:19:56.0 +02:00
      }
      +apDeletedAt: null
      +apTimeoutAt: null
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1686889707 {#271
        date: 2023-06-16 06:28:27.0 +02:00
      }
    }
    +image: null
    +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#1915 …}
    +slug: "Best-options-for-Non-Google-cloud-storage-as-of-2022"
    +title: "Best options for Non-Google cloud storage as of 2022?"
    +url: null
    +body: """
      What are Lemmy’s feelings about the best cloud storage options these days, if you really want to break into the 1-2TB range? I’m not there yet, probably not even halfway there, but I like the peace of mind of potentially having the space if I need it. And I think subscribing to something in the Netflix price range is maybe something I’m ready for.\n
      \n
      My thoughts so far:\n
      \n
      [pcloud](https://www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime) - Intriguing because you can pay for a “lifetime” plan of 2TB of storage. But it’s $350, which is a lot, and I don’t know that I love the interface or usability, and I don’t know if I trust them.\n
      \n
      [iDrive](https://www.idrive.com/pricing) - Super affordable. 5tb for “just” $80/year. It might be the best deal, but nothing about their identity suggests to me that they are “good guys.” By which I mean, I’m not sure I trust them to make long-term promises for any specific plan.\n
      \n
      [Mega](https://mega.io/pro) - I like its very anti-google, very encrypted attitude. Born from the ashes of megaupload, they built encryption and zero knowledge into it. I LOVE that you can connect to it through the android app Solid Explorer and therefore don’t even need the mega app if you don’t want it. I hear bad things about it though? And it’s pretty expensive at $115 per year for 2TB.\n
      \n
      My personal thoughts/reasoning/caveats:\n
      \n
      **Homebrew stuff**: I don’t *quite* trust myself to use a homebrew setup like Nextcloud or Syncthing correctly. There’s too much in terms of labor, upkeep, catastrophic single points of failure where you could lose everything. I feel like I’m 70% of the way to being smart enough to do this.\n
      \n
      **Avoiding the Bad Guys and the Free Stuff**: I’ve tried the free version of just about everything, from Google to Onedrive to Dropbox to Mediafire to Mega. There’s even an android app that offers 1 free terrabyte?? But I don’t want something from the bad guys where I’m going to be integrated into their closed source death drap: Google, Amazon, Microsoft, Apple, and I don’t want a too-good-to-be-true free service where I’m the product.\n
      \n
      I also would prefer to avoid something from the upstarts who kinda-sorta imitate the bad guys: Dropbox, Mediafire, Box. Because I’m not sure how much I can trust any specific long term promise from them.\n
      \n
      **It sounds like you’re saying nothing is good enough! What exactly do you want!?** Something from good guys, not bad guys. Something like [Standardnotes](https://standardnotes.com/), but for file storage. They emphasize privacy, good governance principles and longevity of their service. Or [Linode](https://www.linode.com/support-experience/), with their independence, sense of mission, love of Linux & free software, all of which tells me they are good guys.\n
      \n
      Probably the correct answer is (1) here’s this magical perfect source I never thought of, or (2) I’m thinking this much about it, I should probably do Nextcloud or syncthing given all the constraints that I’m putting out there.\n
      \n
      Anyway, that’s my thoughts on cloud storage. What are yours?
      """
    +type: "article"
    +lang: "en"
    +isOc: false
    +hasEmbed: false
    +commentCount: 25
    +favouriteCount: 41
    +score: 0
    +isAdult: false
    +sticky: false
    +lastActive: DateTime @1689719793 {#2414
      date: 2023-07-19 00:36:33.0 +02:00
    }
    +ip: null
    +adaAmount: 0
    +tags: null
    +mentions: null
    +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1884 …}
    +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1973 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1959 …}
    +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1927 …}
    +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2442 …}
    +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2440 …}
    +children: []
    -id: 1294
    -titleTs: "'2022':11 'best':1 'cloud':7 'googl':6 'non':5 'non-googl':4 'option':2 'storag':8"
    -bodyTs: "'-2':23 '/),':451 '/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':77 '/pricing)':123 '/pro)':173 '/support-experience/),':471 '1':22,337,497 '115':240 '2':509 '2tb':88,244 '350':94 '5tb':126 '70':290 '80/year':129 'afford':125 'also':387 'amazon':364 'android':208,333 'answer':495 'anti':179 'anti-googl':178 'anyway':534 'app':209,220,334 'appl':366 'ash':187 'attitud':183 'avoid':301,391 'bad':229,303,348,402,444 'best':8,134 'born':184 'box':406 'break':19 'built':191 'catastroph':275 'close':359 'cloud':9,540 'connect':203 'constraint':527 'correct':265,494 'could':282 'day':13 'deal':135 'death':361 'drap':362 'dropbox':324,404 'emphas':457 'encrypt':182,192 'enough':297,433 'even':33,216,331 'everyth':284,318 'exact':435 'expens':238 'explor':211 'failur':279 'far':73 'feel':5,286 'file':454 'free':307,313,338,379,481 'given':524 'go':353 'good':147,375,432,441,459,490 'googl':180,320,363 'govern':460 'guy':148,304,349,403,442,445,491 'halfway':34 'hear':228 'homebrew':248,259 'ident':140 'idriv':120 'imit':400 'independ':474 'integr':356 'interfac':108 'intrigu':78 'kinda':398 'kinda-sorta':397 'know':103,115 'knowledg':195 'labor':273 'lemmi':3 'lifetim':85 'like':38,175,261,287,426,447 'linod':468 'linux':480 'long':163,419 'long-term':162 'longev':463 'lose':283 'lot':98 'love':106,199,478 'm':27,67,154,289,352,383,409,511,530 'magic':501 'make':161 'mayb':64 'mean':152 'mediafir':326,405 'mega':170,219,328 'mega.io':172 'mega.io/pro)':171 'megaupload':189 'microsoft':365 'might':131 'mind':42 'mission':477 'much':269,413,514 'need':50,217 'netflix':60 'never':505 'nextcloud':262,521 'noth':137,430 'offer':336 'onedr':322 'option':11 'pay':82 'pcloud':74 'peac':40 'per':241 'perfect':502 'person':246 'plan':86,169 'point':277 'potenti':44 'prefer':389 'pretti':237 'price':61 'principl':461 'privaci':458 'probabl':31,492,519 'product':385 'promis':165,421 'put':531 'quit':253 'rang':25,62 're':428 'readi':68 'realli':16 'say':429 'sens':475 'servic':380,466 'setup':260 'singl':276 'smart':296 'softwar':482 'solid':210 'someth':57,65,345,392,439,446 'sorta':399 'sound':425 'sourc':360,503 'space':47 'specif':168,418 'standardnot':448 'standardnotes.com':450 'standardnotes.com/),':449 'storag':10,90,455,541 'stuff':249,308 'subscrib':55 'suggest':141 'super':124 'sure':156,411 'syncth':264,523 'tb':24 'tell':486 'term':164,271,420 'terrabyt':339 'therefor':213 'thing':230 'think':54,512 'though':233 'thought':71,506,538 'thoughts/reasoning/caveats':247 'too-good-to-be-tru':373 'tri':311 'true':378 'trust':118,158,254,416 'upkeep':274 'upstart':395 'usabl':110 'use':257 've':310 'version':314 'want':17,225,344,371,438 'way':293 'would':388 'www.idrive.com':122 'www.idrive.com/pricing)':121 'www.linode.com':470 'www.linode.com/support-experience/),':469 'www.pcloud.com':76 'www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':75 'year':242 'yet':30 'zero':194"
    +cross: false
    +upVotes: 0
    +downVotes: 0
    +ranking: 1642260128
    +visibility: "visible             "
    +apId: "https://lemmy.ml/post/149005"
    +editedAt: null
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1642173728 {#1793
      date: 2022-01-14 16:22:08.0 +01:00
    }
  }
  +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
  +image: null
  +parent: App\Entity\EntryComment {#4664
    +user: App\Entity\User {#4677 …}
    +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419}
    +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
    +image: null
    +parent: null
    +root: null
    +body: "Proton Drive maybe?"
    +lang: "en"
    +isAdult: false
    +favouriteCount: 12
    +score: 0
    +lastActive: DateTime @1689430811 {#4659
      date: 2023-07-15 16:20:11.0 +02:00
    }
    +ip: null
    +tags: null
    +mentions: [
      "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
    ]
    +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4665 …}
    +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4667 …}
    +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4669 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4671 …}
    +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4673 …}
    +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4675 …}
    -id: 18012
    -bodyTs: "'drive':2 'mayb':3 'proton':1"
    +ranking: 0
    +commentCount: 0
    +upVotes: 0
    +downVotes: 0
    +visibility: "visible             "
    +apId: "https://lemmy.world/comment/1299714"
    +editedAt: null
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689425669 {#4660
      date: 2023-07-15 14:54:29.0 +02:00
    }
  }
  +root: App\Entity\EntryComment {#4664}
  +body: "Last time I checked (which was a while ago) they were still working on implementing some basic things. Do you know if it’s improved now?"
  +lang: "en"
  +isAdult: false
  +favouriteCount: 0
  +score: 0
  +lastActive: DateTime @1689430384 {#4942
    date: 2023-07-15 16:13:04.0 +02:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +tags: null
  +mentions: [
    "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
    "@asbestos@lemmy.world"
  ]
  +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4946 …}
  +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4948 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4950 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4952 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4954 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4956 …}
  -id: 18132
  -bodyTs: "'ago':9 'basic':17 'check':4 'implement':15 'improv':25 'know':21 'last':1 'still':12 'thing':18 'time':2 'work':13"
  +ranking: 0
  +commentCount: 0
  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://lemmy.world/comment/1302083"
  +editedAt: null
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689430384 {#4943
    date: 2023-07-15 16:13:04.0 +02:00
  }
}
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
67 DENIED edit 
App\Entity\EntryComment {#4944
  +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#4945 …}
  +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419
    +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#1970 …}
    +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265
      +icon: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#246 …}
      +name: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +title: "asklemmy"
      +description: """
        A loosely moderated place to ask open-ended questions\n
        \n
        **[Search asklemmy](https://lemmy.ml/search?q=&type=Posts&listingType=All&communityId=8&page=1&sort=TopAll) 🔍**\n
        \n
        If your post meets the following criteria, it’s welcome here!\n
        \n
        1. Open-ended\n
        2. Not offensive: at this point, we do not have the bandwidth to moderate overtly political discussions\n
        3. **Not regarding using or support for Lemmy**: [context](https://lemmy.ml/post/1223478), find help in the list of support alternatives below\n
        4. Not ad nauseam inducing: please make sure it is a question that would be new to most members\n
        5. [An actual topic of discussion](https://lemmy.ml/post/1239589)\n
        \n
        Support alternatives:\n
        \n
        - [!lemmy_support@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/lemmy_support)\n
        - [!nostupidlemmyquestions@lemmy.dbzer0.com](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/nostupidlemmyquestions)\n
        - [!selfhosted@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/selfhosted)\n
        \n
        ~Icon~ ~by~ ~@Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de~
        """
      +rules: null
      +subscriptionsCount: 0
      +entryCount: 580
      +entryCommentCount: 15558
      +postCount: 7
      +postCommentCount: 129
      +isAdult: false
      +customCss: null
      +lastActive: DateTime @1689748304 {#275
        date: 2023-07-19 08:31:44.0 +02:00
      }
      +markedForDeletionAt: null
      +tags: null
      +moderators: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#237 …}
      +ownershipRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#233 …}
      +moderatorRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#222 …}
      +entries: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#180 …}
      +posts: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#138 …}
      +subscriptions: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#200 …}
      +bans: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#117 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#103 …}
      +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#81 …}
      +logs: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#71 …}
      +awards: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1346 …}
      +categories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1823 …}
      -id: 9
      +apId: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +apProfileId: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apPublicUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apFollowersUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy/followers"
      +apInboxUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/inbox"
      +apDomain: "lemmy.ml"
      +apPreferredUsername: "asklemmy"
      +apDiscoverable: true
      +apManuallyApprovesFollowers: null
      +privateKey: null
      +publicKey: null
      +apFetchedAt: DateTime @1689747596 {#269
        date: 2023-07-19 08:19:56.0 +02:00
      }
      +apDeletedAt: null
      +apTimeoutAt: null
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1686889707 {#271
        date: 2023-06-16 06:28:27.0 +02:00
      }
    }
    +image: null
    +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#1915 …}
    +slug: "Best-options-for-Non-Google-cloud-storage-as-of-2022"
    +title: "Best options for Non-Google cloud storage as of 2022?"
    +url: null
    +body: """
      What are Lemmy’s feelings about the best cloud storage options these days, if you really want to break into the 1-2TB range? I’m not there yet, probably not even halfway there, but I like the peace of mind of potentially having the space if I need it. And I think subscribing to something in the Netflix price range is maybe something I’m ready for.\n
      \n
      My thoughts so far:\n
      \n
      [pcloud](https://www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime) - Intriguing because you can pay for a “lifetime” plan of 2TB of storage. But it’s $350, which is a lot, and I don’t know that I love the interface or usability, and I don’t know if I trust them.\n
      \n
      [iDrive](https://www.idrive.com/pricing) - Super affordable. 5tb for “just” $80/year. It might be the best deal, but nothing about their identity suggests to me that they are “good guys.” By which I mean, I’m not sure I trust them to make long-term promises for any specific plan.\n
      \n
      [Mega](https://mega.io/pro) - I like its very anti-google, very encrypted attitude. Born from the ashes of megaupload, they built encryption and zero knowledge into it. I LOVE that you can connect to it through the android app Solid Explorer and therefore don’t even need the mega app if you don’t want it. I hear bad things about it though? And it’s pretty expensive at $115 per year for 2TB.\n
      \n
      My personal thoughts/reasoning/caveats:\n
      \n
      **Homebrew stuff**: I don’t *quite* trust myself to use a homebrew setup like Nextcloud or Syncthing correctly. There’s too much in terms of labor, upkeep, catastrophic single points of failure where you could lose everything. I feel like I’m 70% of the way to being smart enough to do this.\n
      \n
      **Avoiding the Bad Guys and the Free Stuff**: I’ve tried the free version of just about everything, from Google to Onedrive to Dropbox to Mediafire to Mega. There’s even an android app that offers 1 free terrabyte?? But I don’t want something from the bad guys where I’m going to be integrated into their closed source death drap: Google, Amazon, Microsoft, Apple, and I don’t want a too-good-to-be-true free service where I’m the product.\n
      \n
      I also would prefer to avoid something from the upstarts who kinda-sorta imitate the bad guys: Dropbox, Mediafire, Box. Because I’m not sure how much I can trust any specific long term promise from them.\n
      \n
      **It sounds like you’re saying nothing is good enough! What exactly do you want!?** Something from good guys, not bad guys. Something like [Standardnotes](https://standardnotes.com/), but for file storage. They emphasize privacy, good governance principles and longevity of their service. Or [Linode](https://www.linode.com/support-experience/), with their independence, sense of mission, love of Linux & free software, all of which tells me they are good guys.\n
      \n
      Probably the correct answer is (1) here’s this magical perfect source I never thought of, or (2) I’m thinking this much about it, I should probably do Nextcloud or syncthing given all the constraints that I’m putting out there.\n
      \n
      Anyway, that’s my thoughts on cloud storage. What are yours?
      """
    +type: "article"
    +lang: "en"
    +isOc: false
    +hasEmbed: false
    +commentCount: 25
    +favouriteCount: 41
    +score: 0
    +isAdult: false
    +sticky: false
    +lastActive: DateTime @1689719793 {#2414
      date: 2023-07-19 00:36:33.0 +02:00
    }
    +ip: null
    +adaAmount: 0
    +tags: null
    +mentions: null
    +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1884 …}
    +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1973 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1959 …}
    +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1927 …}
    +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2442 …}
    +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2440 …}
    +children: []
    -id: 1294
    -titleTs: "'2022':11 'best':1 'cloud':7 'googl':6 'non':5 'non-googl':4 'option':2 'storag':8"
    -bodyTs: "'-2':23 '/),':451 '/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':77 '/pricing)':123 '/pro)':173 '/support-experience/),':471 '1':22,337,497 '115':240 '2':509 '2tb':88,244 '350':94 '5tb':126 '70':290 '80/year':129 'afford':125 'also':387 'amazon':364 'android':208,333 'answer':495 'anti':179 'anti-googl':178 'anyway':534 'app':209,220,334 'appl':366 'ash':187 'attitud':183 'avoid':301,391 'bad':229,303,348,402,444 'best':8,134 'born':184 'box':406 'break':19 'built':191 'catastroph':275 'close':359 'cloud':9,540 'connect':203 'constraint':527 'correct':265,494 'could':282 'day':13 'deal':135 'death':361 'drap':362 'dropbox':324,404 'emphas':457 'encrypt':182,192 'enough':297,433 'even':33,216,331 'everyth':284,318 'exact':435 'expens':238 'explor':211 'failur':279 'far':73 'feel':5,286 'file':454 'free':307,313,338,379,481 'given':524 'go':353 'good':147,375,432,441,459,490 'googl':180,320,363 'govern':460 'guy':148,304,349,403,442,445,491 'halfway':34 'hear':228 'homebrew':248,259 'ident':140 'idriv':120 'imit':400 'independ':474 'integr':356 'interfac':108 'intrigu':78 'kinda':398 'kinda-sorta':397 'know':103,115 'knowledg':195 'labor':273 'lemmi':3 'lifetim':85 'like':38,175,261,287,426,447 'linod':468 'linux':480 'long':163,419 'long-term':162 'longev':463 'lose':283 'lot':98 'love':106,199,478 'm':27,67,154,289,352,383,409,511,530 'magic':501 'make':161 'mayb':64 'mean':152 'mediafir':326,405 'mega':170,219,328 'mega.io':172 'mega.io/pro)':171 'megaupload':189 'microsoft':365 'might':131 'mind':42 'mission':477 'much':269,413,514 'need':50,217 'netflix':60 'never':505 'nextcloud':262,521 'noth':137,430 'offer':336 'onedr':322 'option':11 'pay':82 'pcloud':74 'peac':40 'per':241 'perfect':502 'person':246 'plan':86,169 'point':277 'potenti':44 'prefer':389 'pretti':237 'price':61 'principl':461 'privaci':458 'probabl':31,492,519 'product':385 'promis':165,421 'put':531 'quit':253 'rang':25,62 're':428 'readi':68 'realli':16 'say':429 'sens':475 'servic':380,466 'setup':260 'singl':276 'smart':296 'softwar':482 'solid':210 'someth':57,65,345,392,439,446 'sorta':399 'sound':425 'sourc':360,503 'space':47 'specif':168,418 'standardnot':448 'standardnotes.com':450 'standardnotes.com/),':449 'storag':10,90,455,541 'stuff':249,308 'subscrib':55 'suggest':141 'super':124 'sure':156,411 'syncth':264,523 'tb':24 'tell':486 'term':164,271,420 'terrabyt':339 'therefor':213 'thing':230 'think':54,512 'though':233 'thought':71,506,538 'thoughts/reasoning/caveats':247 'too-good-to-be-tru':373 'tri':311 'true':378 'trust':118,158,254,416 'upkeep':274 'upstart':395 'usabl':110 'use':257 've':310 'version':314 'want':17,225,344,371,438 'way':293 'would':388 'www.idrive.com':122 'www.idrive.com/pricing)':121 'www.linode.com':470 'www.linode.com/support-experience/),':469 'www.pcloud.com':76 'www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':75 'year':242 'yet':30 'zero':194"
    +cross: false
    +upVotes: 0
    +downVotes: 0
    +ranking: 1642260128
    +visibility: "visible             "
    +apId: "https://lemmy.ml/post/149005"
    +editedAt: null
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1642173728 {#1793
      date: 2022-01-14 16:22:08.0 +01:00
    }
  }
  +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
  +image: null
  +parent: App\Entity\EntryComment {#4664
    +user: App\Entity\User {#4677 …}
    +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419}
    +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
    +image: null
    +parent: null
    +root: null
    +body: "Proton Drive maybe?"
    +lang: "en"
    +isAdult: false
    +favouriteCount: 12
    +score: 0
    +lastActive: DateTime @1689430811 {#4659
      date: 2023-07-15 16:20:11.0 +02:00
    }
    +ip: null
    +tags: null
    +mentions: [
      "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
    ]
    +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4665 …}
    +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4667 …}
    +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4669 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4671 …}
    +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4673 …}
    +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4675 …}
    -id: 18012
    -bodyTs: "'drive':2 'mayb':3 'proton':1"
    +ranking: 0
    +commentCount: 0
    +upVotes: 0
    +downVotes: 0
    +visibility: "visible             "
    +apId: "https://lemmy.world/comment/1299714"
    +editedAt: null
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689425669 {#4660
      date: 2023-07-15 14:54:29.0 +02:00
    }
  }
  +root: App\Entity\EntryComment {#4664}
  +body: "Last time I checked (which was a while ago) they were still working on implementing some basic things. Do you know if it’s improved now?"
  +lang: "en"
  +isAdult: false
  +favouriteCount: 0
  +score: 0
  +lastActive: DateTime @1689430384 {#4942
    date: 2023-07-15 16:13:04.0 +02:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +tags: null
  +mentions: [
    "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
    "@asbestos@lemmy.world"
  ]
  +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4946 …}
  +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4948 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4950 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4952 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4954 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4956 …}
  -id: 18132
  -bodyTs: "'ago':9 'basic':17 'check':4 'implement':15 'improv':25 'know':21 'last':1 'still':12 'thing':18 'time':2 'work':13"
  +ranking: 0
  +commentCount: 0
  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://lemmy.world/comment/1302083"
  +editedAt: null
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689430384 {#4943
    date: 2023-07-15 16:13:04.0 +02:00
  }
}
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
68 DENIED moderate 
App\Entity\EntryComment {#4944
  +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#4945 …}
  +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419
    +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#1970 …}
    +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265
      +icon: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#246 …}
      +name: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +title: "asklemmy"
      +description: """
        A loosely moderated place to ask open-ended questions\n
        \n
        **[Search asklemmy](https://lemmy.ml/search?q=&type=Posts&listingType=All&communityId=8&page=1&sort=TopAll) 🔍**\n
        \n
        If your post meets the following criteria, it’s welcome here!\n
        \n
        1. Open-ended\n
        2. Not offensive: at this point, we do not have the bandwidth to moderate overtly political discussions\n
        3. **Not regarding using or support for Lemmy**: [context](https://lemmy.ml/post/1223478), find help in the list of support alternatives below\n
        4. Not ad nauseam inducing: please make sure it is a question that would be new to most members\n
        5. [An actual topic of discussion](https://lemmy.ml/post/1239589)\n
        \n
        Support alternatives:\n
        \n
        - [!lemmy_support@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/lemmy_support)\n
        - [!nostupidlemmyquestions@lemmy.dbzer0.com](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/nostupidlemmyquestions)\n
        - [!selfhosted@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/selfhosted)\n
        \n
        ~Icon~ ~by~ ~@Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de~
        """
      +rules: null
      +subscriptionsCount: 0
      +entryCount: 580
      +entryCommentCount: 15558
      +postCount: 7
      +postCommentCount: 129
      +isAdult: false
      +customCss: null
      +lastActive: DateTime @1689748304 {#275
        date: 2023-07-19 08:31:44.0 +02:00
      }
      +markedForDeletionAt: null
      +tags: null
      +moderators: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#237 …}
      +ownershipRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#233 …}
      +moderatorRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#222 …}
      +entries: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#180 …}
      +posts: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#138 …}
      +subscriptions: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#200 …}
      +bans: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#117 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#103 …}
      +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#81 …}
      +logs: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#71 …}
      +awards: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1346 …}
      +categories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1823 …}
      -id: 9
      +apId: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +apProfileId: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apPublicUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apFollowersUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy/followers"
      +apInboxUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/inbox"
      +apDomain: "lemmy.ml"
      +apPreferredUsername: "asklemmy"
      +apDiscoverable: true
      +apManuallyApprovesFollowers: null
      +privateKey: null
      +publicKey: null
      +apFetchedAt: DateTime @1689747596 {#269
        date: 2023-07-19 08:19:56.0 +02:00
      }
      +apDeletedAt: null
      +apTimeoutAt: null
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1686889707 {#271
        date: 2023-06-16 06:28:27.0 +02:00
      }
    }
    +image: null
    +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#1915 …}
    +slug: "Best-options-for-Non-Google-cloud-storage-as-of-2022"
    +title: "Best options for Non-Google cloud storage as of 2022?"
    +url: null
    +body: """
      What are Lemmy’s feelings about the best cloud storage options these days, if you really want to break into the 1-2TB range? I’m not there yet, probably not even halfway there, but I like the peace of mind of potentially having the space if I need it. And I think subscribing to something in the Netflix price range is maybe something I’m ready for.\n
      \n
      My thoughts so far:\n
      \n
      [pcloud](https://www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime) - Intriguing because you can pay for a “lifetime” plan of 2TB of storage. But it’s $350, which is a lot, and I don’t know that I love the interface or usability, and I don’t know if I trust them.\n
      \n
      [iDrive](https://www.idrive.com/pricing) - Super affordable. 5tb for “just” $80/year. It might be the best deal, but nothing about their identity suggests to me that they are “good guys.” By which I mean, I’m not sure I trust them to make long-term promises for any specific plan.\n
      \n
      [Mega](https://mega.io/pro) - I like its very anti-google, very encrypted attitude. Born from the ashes of megaupload, they built encryption and zero knowledge into it. I LOVE that you can connect to it through the android app Solid Explorer and therefore don’t even need the mega app if you don’t want it. I hear bad things about it though? And it’s pretty expensive at $115 per year for 2TB.\n
      \n
      My personal thoughts/reasoning/caveats:\n
      \n
      **Homebrew stuff**: I don’t *quite* trust myself to use a homebrew setup like Nextcloud or Syncthing correctly. There’s too much in terms of labor, upkeep, catastrophic single points of failure where you could lose everything. I feel like I’m 70% of the way to being smart enough to do this.\n
      \n
      **Avoiding the Bad Guys and the Free Stuff**: I’ve tried the free version of just about everything, from Google to Onedrive to Dropbox to Mediafire to Mega. There’s even an android app that offers 1 free terrabyte?? But I don’t want something from the bad guys where I’m going to be integrated into their closed source death drap: Google, Amazon, Microsoft, Apple, and I don’t want a too-good-to-be-true free service where I’m the product.\n
      \n
      I also would prefer to avoid something from the upstarts who kinda-sorta imitate the bad guys: Dropbox, Mediafire, Box. Because I’m not sure how much I can trust any specific long term promise from them.\n
      \n
      **It sounds like you’re saying nothing is good enough! What exactly do you want!?** Something from good guys, not bad guys. Something like [Standardnotes](https://standardnotes.com/), but for file storage. They emphasize privacy, good governance principles and longevity of their service. Or [Linode](https://www.linode.com/support-experience/), with their independence, sense of mission, love of Linux & free software, all of which tells me they are good guys.\n
      \n
      Probably the correct answer is (1) here’s this magical perfect source I never thought of, or (2) I’m thinking this much about it, I should probably do Nextcloud or syncthing given all the constraints that I’m putting out there.\n
      \n
      Anyway, that’s my thoughts on cloud storage. What are yours?
      """
    +type: "article"
    +lang: "en"
    +isOc: false
    +hasEmbed: false
    +commentCount: 25
    +favouriteCount: 41
    +score: 0
    +isAdult: false
    +sticky: false
    +lastActive: DateTime @1689719793 {#2414
      date: 2023-07-19 00:36:33.0 +02:00
    }
    +ip: null
    +adaAmount: 0
    +tags: null
    +mentions: null
    +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1884 …}
    +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1973 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1959 …}
    +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1927 …}
    +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2442 …}
    +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2440 …}
    +children: []
    -id: 1294
    -titleTs: "'2022':11 'best':1 'cloud':7 'googl':6 'non':5 'non-googl':4 'option':2 'storag':8"
    -bodyTs: "'-2':23 '/),':451 '/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':77 '/pricing)':123 '/pro)':173 '/support-experience/),':471 '1':22,337,497 '115':240 '2':509 '2tb':88,244 '350':94 '5tb':126 '70':290 '80/year':129 'afford':125 'also':387 'amazon':364 'android':208,333 'answer':495 'anti':179 'anti-googl':178 'anyway':534 'app':209,220,334 'appl':366 'ash':187 'attitud':183 'avoid':301,391 'bad':229,303,348,402,444 'best':8,134 'born':184 'box':406 'break':19 'built':191 'catastroph':275 'close':359 'cloud':9,540 'connect':203 'constraint':527 'correct':265,494 'could':282 'day':13 'deal':135 'death':361 'drap':362 'dropbox':324,404 'emphas':457 'encrypt':182,192 'enough':297,433 'even':33,216,331 'everyth':284,318 'exact':435 'expens':238 'explor':211 'failur':279 'far':73 'feel':5,286 'file':454 'free':307,313,338,379,481 'given':524 'go':353 'good':147,375,432,441,459,490 'googl':180,320,363 'govern':460 'guy':148,304,349,403,442,445,491 'halfway':34 'hear':228 'homebrew':248,259 'ident':140 'idriv':120 'imit':400 'independ':474 'integr':356 'interfac':108 'intrigu':78 'kinda':398 'kinda-sorta':397 'know':103,115 'knowledg':195 'labor':273 'lemmi':3 'lifetim':85 'like':38,175,261,287,426,447 'linod':468 'linux':480 'long':163,419 'long-term':162 'longev':463 'lose':283 'lot':98 'love':106,199,478 'm':27,67,154,289,352,383,409,511,530 'magic':501 'make':161 'mayb':64 'mean':152 'mediafir':326,405 'mega':170,219,328 'mega.io':172 'mega.io/pro)':171 'megaupload':189 'microsoft':365 'might':131 'mind':42 'mission':477 'much':269,413,514 'need':50,217 'netflix':60 'never':505 'nextcloud':262,521 'noth':137,430 'offer':336 'onedr':322 'option':11 'pay':82 'pcloud':74 'peac':40 'per':241 'perfect':502 'person':246 'plan':86,169 'point':277 'potenti':44 'prefer':389 'pretti':237 'price':61 'principl':461 'privaci':458 'probabl':31,492,519 'product':385 'promis':165,421 'put':531 'quit':253 'rang':25,62 're':428 'readi':68 'realli':16 'say':429 'sens':475 'servic':380,466 'setup':260 'singl':276 'smart':296 'softwar':482 'solid':210 'someth':57,65,345,392,439,446 'sorta':399 'sound':425 'sourc':360,503 'space':47 'specif':168,418 'standardnot':448 'standardnotes.com':450 'standardnotes.com/),':449 'storag':10,90,455,541 'stuff':249,308 'subscrib':55 'suggest':141 'super':124 'sure':156,411 'syncth':264,523 'tb':24 'tell':486 'term':164,271,420 'terrabyt':339 'therefor':213 'thing':230 'think':54,512 'though':233 'thought':71,506,538 'thoughts/reasoning/caveats':247 'too-good-to-be-tru':373 'tri':311 'true':378 'trust':118,158,254,416 'upkeep':274 'upstart':395 'usabl':110 'use':257 've':310 'version':314 'want':17,225,344,371,438 'way':293 'would':388 'www.idrive.com':122 'www.idrive.com/pricing)':121 'www.linode.com':470 'www.linode.com/support-experience/),':469 'www.pcloud.com':76 'www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':75 'year':242 'yet':30 'zero':194"
    +cross: false
    +upVotes: 0
    +downVotes: 0
    +ranking: 1642260128
    +visibility: "visible             "
    +apId: "https://lemmy.ml/post/149005"
    +editedAt: null
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1642173728 {#1793
      date: 2022-01-14 16:22:08.0 +01:00
    }
  }
  +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
  +image: null
  +parent: App\Entity\EntryComment {#4664
    +user: App\Entity\User {#4677 …}
    +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419}
    +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
    +image: null
    +parent: null
    +root: null
    +body: "Proton Drive maybe?"
    +lang: "en"
    +isAdult: false
    +favouriteCount: 12
    +score: 0
    +lastActive: DateTime @1689430811 {#4659
      date: 2023-07-15 16:20:11.0 +02:00
    }
    +ip: null
    +tags: null
    +mentions: [
      "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
    ]
    +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4665 …}
    +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4667 …}
    +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4669 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4671 …}
    +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4673 …}
    +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4675 …}
    -id: 18012
    -bodyTs: "'drive':2 'mayb':3 'proton':1"
    +ranking: 0
    +commentCount: 0
    +upVotes: 0
    +downVotes: 0
    +visibility: "visible             "
    +apId: "https://lemmy.world/comment/1299714"
    +editedAt: null
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689425669 {#4660
      date: 2023-07-15 14:54:29.0 +02:00
    }
  }
  +root: App\Entity\EntryComment {#4664}
  +body: "Last time I checked (which was a while ago) they were still working on implementing some basic things. Do you know if it’s improved now?"
  +lang: "en"
  +isAdult: false
  +favouriteCount: 0
  +score: 0
  +lastActive: DateTime @1689430384 {#4942
    date: 2023-07-15 16:13:04.0 +02:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +tags: null
  +mentions: [
    "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
    "@asbestos@lemmy.world"
  ]
  +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4946 …}
  +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4948 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4950 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4952 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4954 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4956 …}
  -id: 18132
  -bodyTs: "'ago':9 'basic':17 'check':4 'implement':15 'improv':25 'know':21 'last':1 'still':12 'thing':18 'time':2 'work':13"
  +ranking: 0
  +commentCount: 0
  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://lemmy.world/comment/1302083"
  +editedAt: null
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689430384 {#4943
    date: 2023-07-15 16:13:04.0 +02:00
  }
}
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
69 DENIED ROLE_USER 
null
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
70 DENIED moderate 
App\Entity\EntryComment {#5015
  +user: App\Entity\User {#4529 …}
  +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419
    +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#1970 …}
    +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265
      +icon: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#246 …}
      +name: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +title: "asklemmy"
      +description: """
        A loosely moderated place to ask open-ended questions\n
        \n
        **[Search asklemmy](https://lemmy.ml/search?q=&type=Posts&listingType=All&communityId=8&page=1&sort=TopAll) 🔍**\n
        \n
        If your post meets the following criteria, it’s welcome here!\n
        \n
        1. Open-ended\n
        2. Not offensive: at this point, we do not have the bandwidth to moderate overtly political discussions\n
        3. **Not regarding using or support for Lemmy**: [context](https://lemmy.ml/post/1223478), find help in the list of support alternatives below\n
        4. Not ad nauseam inducing: please make sure it is a question that would be new to most members\n
        5. [An actual topic of discussion](https://lemmy.ml/post/1239589)\n
        \n
        Support alternatives:\n
        \n
        - [!lemmy_support@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/lemmy_support)\n
        - [!nostupidlemmyquestions@lemmy.dbzer0.com](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/nostupidlemmyquestions)\n
        - [!selfhosted@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/selfhosted)\n
        \n
        ~Icon~ ~by~ ~@Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de~
        """
      +rules: null
      +subscriptionsCount: 0
      +entryCount: 580
      +entryCommentCount: 15558
      +postCount: 7
      +postCommentCount: 129
      +isAdult: false
      +customCss: null
      +lastActive: DateTime @1689748304 {#275
        date: 2023-07-19 08:31:44.0 +02:00
      }
      +markedForDeletionAt: null
      +tags: null
      +moderators: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#237 …}
      +ownershipRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#233 …}
      +moderatorRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#222 …}
      +entries: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#180 …}
      +posts: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#138 …}
      +subscriptions: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#200 …}
      +bans: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#117 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#103 …}
      +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#81 …}
      +logs: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#71 …}
      +awards: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1346 …}
      +categories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1823 …}
      -id: 9
      +apId: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +apProfileId: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apPublicUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apFollowersUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy/followers"
      +apInboxUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/inbox"
      +apDomain: "lemmy.ml"
      +apPreferredUsername: "asklemmy"
      +apDiscoverable: true
      +apManuallyApprovesFollowers: null
      +privateKey: null
      +publicKey: null
      +apFetchedAt: DateTime @1689747596 {#269
        date: 2023-07-19 08:19:56.0 +02:00
      }
      +apDeletedAt: null
      +apTimeoutAt: null
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1686889707 {#271
        date: 2023-06-16 06:28:27.0 +02:00
      }
    }
    +image: null
    +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#1915 …}
    +slug: "Best-options-for-Non-Google-cloud-storage-as-of-2022"
    +title: "Best options for Non-Google cloud storage as of 2022?"
    +url: null
    +body: """
      What are Lemmy’s feelings about the best cloud storage options these days, if you really want to break into the 1-2TB range? I’m not there yet, probably not even halfway there, but I like the peace of mind of potentially having the space if I need it. And I think subscribing to something in the Netflix price range is maybe something I’m ready for.\n
      \n
      My thoughts so far:\n
      \n
      [pcloud](https://www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime) - Intriguing because you can pay for a “lifetime” plan of 2TB of storage. But it’s $350, which is a lot, and I don’t know that I love the interface or usability, and I don’t know if I trust them.\n
      \n
      [iDrive](https://www.idrive.com/pricing) - Super affordable. 5tb for “just” $80/year. It might be the best deal, but nothing about their identity suggests to me that they are “good guys.” By which I mean, I’m not sure I trust them to make long-term promises for any specific plan.\n
      \n
      [Mega](https://mega.io/pro) - I like its very anti-google, very encrypted attitude. Born from the ashes of megaupload, they built encryption and zero knowledge into it. I LOVE that you can connect to it through the android app Solid Explorer and therefore don’t even need the mega app if you don’t want it. I hear bad things about it though? And it’s pretty expensive at $115 per year for 2TB.\n
      \n
      My personal thoughts/reasoning/caveats:\n
      \n
      **Homebrew stuff**: I don’t *quite* trust myself to use a homebrew setup like Nextcloud or Syncthing correctly. There’s too much in terms of labor, upkeep, catastrophic single points of failure where you could lose everything. I feel like I’m 70% of the way to being smart enough to do this.\n
      \n
      **Avoiding the Bad Guys and the Free Stuff**: I’ve tried the free version of just about everything, from Google to Onedrive to Dropbox to Mediafire to Mega. There’s even an android app that offers 1 free terrabyte?? But I don’t want something from the bad guys where I’m going to be integrated into their closed source death drap: Google, Amazon, Microsoft, Apple, and I don’t want a too-good-to-be-true free service where I’m the product.\n
      \n
      I also would prefer to avoid something from the upstarts who kinda-sorta imitate the bad guys: Dropbox, Mediafire, Box. Because I’m not sure how much I can trust any specific long term promise from them.\n
      \n
      **It sounds like you’re saying nothing is good enough! What exactly do you want!?** Something from good guys, not bad guys. Something like [Standardnotes](https://standardnotes.com/), but for file storage. They emphasize privacy, good governance principles and longevity of their service. Or [Linode](https://www.linode.com/support-experience/), with their independence, sense of mission, love of Linux & free software, all of which tells me they are good guys.\n
      \n
      Probably the correct answer is (1) here’s this magical perfect source I never thought of, or (2) I’m thinking this much about it, I should probably do Nextcloud or syncthing given all the constraints that I’m putting out there.\n
      \n
      Anyway, that’s my thoughts on cloud storage. What are yours?
      """
    +type: "article"
    +lang: "en"
    +isOc: false
    +hasEmbed: false
    +commentCount: 25
    +favouriteCount: 41
    +score: 0
    +isAdult: false
    +sticky: false
    +lastActive: DateTime @1689719793 {#2414
      date: 2023-07-19 00:36:33.0 +02:00
    }
    +ip: null
    +adaAmount: 0
    +tags: null
    +mentions: null
    +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1884 …}
    +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1973 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1959 …}
    +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1927 …}
    +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2442 …}
    +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2440 …}
    +children: []
    -id: 1294
    -titleTs: "'2022':11 'best':1 'cloud':7 'googl':6 'non':5 'non-googl':4 'option':2 'storag':8"
    -bodyTs: "'-2':23 '/),':451 '/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':77 '/pricing)':123 '/pro)':173 '/support-experience/),':471 '1':22,337,497 '115':240 '2':509 '2tb':88,244 '350':94 '5tb':126 '70':290 '80/year':129 'afford':125 'also':387 'amazon':364 'android':208,333 'answer':495 'anti':179 'anti-googl':178 'anyway':534 'app':209,220,334 'appl':366 'ash':187 'attitud':183 'avoid':301,391 'bad':229,303,348,402,444 'best':8,134 'born':184 'box':406 'break':19 'built':191 'catastroph':275 'close':359 'cloud':9,540 'connect':203 'constraint':527 'correct':265,494 'could':282 'day':13 'deal':135 'death':361 'drap':362 'dropbox':324,404 'emphas':457 'encrypt':182,192 'enough':297,433 'even':33,216,331 'everyth':284,318 'exact':435 'expens':238 'explor':211 'failur':279 'far':73 'feel':5,286 'file':454 'free':307,313,338,379,481 'given':524 'go':353 'good':147,375,432,441,459,490 'googl':180,320,363 'govern':460 'guy':148,304,349,403,442,445,491 'halfway':34 'hear':228 'homebrew':248,259 'ident':140 'idriv':120 'imit':400 'independ':474 'integr':356 'interfac':108 'intrigu':78 'kinda':398 'kinda-sorta':397 'know':103,115 'knowledg':195 'labor':273 'lemmi':3 'lifetim':85 'like':38,175,261,287,426,447 'linod':468 'linux':480 'long':163,419 'long-term':162 'longev':463 'lose':283 'lot':98 'love':106,199,478 'm':27,67,154,289,352,383,409,511,530 'magic':501 'make':161 'mayb':64 'mean':152 'mediafir':326,405 'mega':170,219,328 'mega.io':172 'mega.io/pro)':171 'megaupload':189 'microsoft':365 'might':131 'mind':42 'mission':477 'much':269,413,514 'need':50,217 'netflix':60 'never':505 'nextcloud':262,521 'noth':137,430 'offer':336 'onedr':322 'option':11 'pay':82 'pcloud':74 'peac':40 'per':241 'perfect':502 'person':246 'plan':86,169 'point':277 'potenti':44 'prefer':389 'pretti':237 'price':61 'principl':461 'privaci':458 'probabl':31,492,519 'product':385 'promis':165,421 'put':531 'quit':253 'rang':25,62 're':428 'readi':68 'realli':16 'say':429 'sens':475 'servic':380,466 'setup':260 'singl':276 'smart':296 'softwar':482 'solid':210 'someth':57,65,345,392,439,446 'sorta':399 'sound':425 'sourc':360,503 'space':47 'specif':168,418 'standardnot':448 'standardnotes.com':450 'standardnotes.com/),':449 'storag':10,90,455,541 'stuff':249,308 'subscrib':55 'suggest':141 'super':124 'sure':156,411 'syncth':264,523 'tb':24 'tell':486 'term':164,271,420 'terrabyt':339 'therefor':213 'thing':230 'think':54,512 'though':233 'thought':71,506,538 'thoughts/reasoning/caveats':247 'too-good-to-be-tru':373 'tri':311 'true':378 'trust':118,158,254,416 'upkeep':274 'upstart':395 'usabl':110 'use':257 've':310 'version':314 'want':17,225,344,371,438 'way':293 'would':388 'www.idrive.com':122 'www.idrive.com/pricing)':121 'www.linode.com':470 'www.linode.com/support-experience/),':469 'www.pcloud.com':76 'www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':75 'year':242 'yet':30 'zero':194"
    +cross: false
    +upVotes: 0
    +downVotes: 0
    +ranking: 1642260128
    +visibility: "visible             "
    +apId: "https://lemmy.ml/post/149005"
    +editedAt: null
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1642173728 {#1793
      date: 2022-01-14 16:22:08.0 +01:00
    }
  }
  +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
  +image: null
  +parent: App\Entity\EntryComment {#4944
    +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#4945 …}
    +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419}
    +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
    +image: null
    +parent: App\Entity\EntryComment {#4664
      +user: App\Entity\User {#4677 …}
      +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419}
      +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
      +image: null
      +parent: null
      +root: null
      +body: "Proton Drive maybe?"
      +lang: "en"
      +isAdult: false
      +favouriteCount: 12
      +score: 0
      +lastActive: DateTime @1689430811 {#4659
        date: 2023-07-15 16:20:11.0 +02:00
      }
      +ip: null
      +tags: null
      +mentions: [
        "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
      ]
      +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4665 …}
      +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4667 …}
      +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4669 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4671 …}
      +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4673 …}
      +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4675 …}
      -id: 18012
      -bodyTs: "'drive':2 'mayb':3 'proton':1"
      +ranking: 0
      +commentCount: 0
      +upVotes: 0
      +downVotes: 0
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +apId: "https://lemmy.world/comment/1299714"
      +editedAt: null
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689425669 {#4660
        date: 2023-07-15 14:54:29.0 +02:00
      }
    }
    +root: App\Entity\EntryComment {#4664}
    +body: "Last time I checked (which was a while ago) they were still working on implementing some basic things. Do you know if it’s improved now?"
    +lang: "en"
    +isAdult: false
    +favouriteCount: 0
    +score: 0
    +lastActive: DateTime @1689430384 {#4942
      date: 2023-07-15 16:13:04.0 +02:00
    }
    +ip: null
    +tags: null
    +mentions: [
      "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
      "@asbestos@lemmy.world"
    ]
    +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4946 …}
    +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4948 …}
    +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4950 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4952 …}
    +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4954 …}
    +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4956 …}
    -id: 18132
    -bodyTs: "'ago':9 'basic':17 'check':4 'implement':15 'improv':25 'know':21 'last':1 'still':12 'thing':18 'time':2 'work':13"
    +ranking: 0
    +commentCount: 0
    +upVotes: 0
    +downVotes: 0
    +visibility: "visible             "
    +apId: "https://lemmy.world/comment/1302083"
    +editedAt: null
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689430384 {#4943
      date: 2023-07-15 16:13:04.0 +02:00
    }
  }
  +root: App\Entity\EntryComment {#4664}
  +body: "They just released a Windows client I think so it’s definitely coming along."
  +lang: "en"
  +isAdult: false
  +favouriteCount: 6
  +score: 0
  +lastActive: DateTime @1689430636 {#5016
    date: 2023-07-15 16:17:16.0 +02:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +tags: null
  +mentions: [
    "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
    "@asbestos@lemmy.world"
    "@TheGiantKorean@lemmy.world"
  ]
  +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5010 …}
  +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5004 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5008 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5019 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5021 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5023 …}
  -id: 18147
  -bodyTs: "'along':14 'client':6 'come':13 'definit':12 'releas':3 'think':8 'window':5"
  +ranking: 0
  +commentCount: 0
  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://lemmy.fmhy.ml/comment/1073032"
  +editedAt: null
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689430636 {#5013
    date: 2023-07-15 16:17:16.0 +02:00
  }
}
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
71 DENIED edit 
App\Entity\EntryComment {#5015
  +user: App\Entity\User {#4529 …}
  +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419
    +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#1970 …}
    +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265
      +icon: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#246 …}
      +name: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +title: "asklemmy"
      +description: """
        A loosely moderated place to ask open-ended questions\n
        \n
        **[Search asklemmy](https://lemmy.ml/search?q=&type=Posts&listingType=All&communityId=8&page=1&sort=TopAll) 🔍**\n
        \n
        If your post meets the following criteria, it’s welcome here!\n
        \n
        1. Open-ended\n
        2. Not offensive: at this point, we do not have the bandwidth to moderate overtly political discussions\n
        3. **Not regarding using or support for Lemmy**: [context](https://lemmy.ml/post/1223478), find help in the list of support alternatives below\n
        4. Not ad nauseam inducing: please make sure it is a question that would be new to most members\n
        5. [An actual topic of discussion](https://lemmy.ml/post/1239589)\n
        \n
        Support alternatives:\n
        \n
        - [!lemmy_support@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/lemmy_support)\n
        - [!nostupidlemmyquestions@lemmy.dbzer0.com](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/nostupidlemmyquestions)\n
        - [!selfhosted@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/selfhosted)\n
        \n
        ~Icon~ ~by~ ~@Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de~
        """
      +rules: null
      +subscriptionsCount: 0
      +entryCount: 580
      +entryCommentCount: 15558
      +postCount: 7
      +postCommentCount: 129
      +isAdult: false
      +customCss: null
      +lastActive: DateTime @1689748304 {#275
        date: 2023-07-19 08:31:44.0 +02:00
      }
      +markedForDeletionAt: null
      +tags: null
      +moderators: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#237 …}
      +ownershipRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#233 …}
      +moderatorRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#222 …}
      +entries: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#180 …}
      +posts: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#138 …}
      +subscriptions: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#200 …}
      +bans: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#117 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#103 …}
      +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#81 …}
      +logs: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#71 …}
      +awards: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1346 …}
      +categories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1823 …}
      -id: 9
      +apId: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +apProfileId: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apPublicUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apFollowersUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy/followers"
      +apInboxUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/inbox"
      +apDomain: "lemmy.ml"
      +apPreferredUsername: "asklemmy"
      +apDiscoverable: true
      +apManuallyApprovesFollowers: null
      +privateKey: null
      +publicKey: null
      +apFetchedAt: DateTime @1689747596 {#269
        date: 2023-07-19 08:19:56.0 +02:00
      }
      +apDeletedAt: null
      +apTimeoutAt: null
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1686889707 {#271
        date: 2023-06-16 06:28:27.0 +02:00
      }
    }
    +image: null
    +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#1915 …}
    +slug: "Best-options-for-Non-Google-cloud-storage-as-of-2022"
    +title: "Best options for Non-Google cloud storage as of 2022?"
    +url: null
    +body: """
      What are Lemmy’s feelings about the best cloud storage options these days, if you really want to break into the 1-2TB range? I’m not there yet, probably not even halfway there, but I like the peace of mind of potentially having the space if I need it. And I think subscribing to something in the Netflix price range is maybe something I’m ready for.\n
      \n
      My thoughts so far:\n
      \n
      [pcloud](https://www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime) - Intriguing because you can pay for a “lifetime” plan of 2TB of storage. But it’s $350, which is a lot, and I don’t know that I love the interface or usability, and I don’t know if I trust them.\n
      \n
      [iDrive](https://www.idrive.com/pricing) - Super affordable. 5tb for “just” $80/year. It might be the best deal, but nothing about their identity suggests to me that they are “good guys.” By which I mean, I’m not sure I trust them to make long-term promises for any specific plan.\n
      \n
      [Mega](https://mega.io/pro) - I like its very anti-google, very encrypted attitude. Born from the ashes of megaupload, they built encryption and zero knowledge into it. I LOVE that you can connect to it through the android app Solid Explorer and therefore don’t even need the mega app if you don’t want it. I hear bad things about it though? And it’s pretty expensive at $115 per year for 2TB.\n
      \n
      My personal thoughts/reasoning/caveats:\n
      \n
      **Homebrew stuff**: I don’t *quite* trust myself to use a homebrew setup like Nextcloud or Syncthing correctly. There’s too much in terms of labor, upkeep, catastrophic single points of failure where you could lose everything. I feel like I’m 70% of the way to being smart enough to do this.\n
      \n
      **Avoiding the Bad Guys and the Free Stuff**: I’ve tried the free version of just about everything, from Google to Onedrive to Dropbox to Mediafire to Mega. There’s even an android app that offers 1 free terrabyte?? But I don’t want something from the bad guys where I’m going to be integrated into their closed source death drap: Google, Amazon, Microsoft, Apple, and I don’t want a too-good-to-be-true free service where I’m the product.\n
      \n
      I also would prefer to avoid something from the upstarts who kinda-sorta imitate the bad guys: Dropbox, Mediafire, Box. Because I’m not sure how much I can trust any specific long term promise from them.\n
      \n
      **It sounds like you’re saying nothing is good enough! What exactly do you want!?** Something from good guys, not bad guys. Something like [Standardnotes](https://standardnotes.com/), but for file storage. They emphasize privacy, good governance principles and longevity of their service. Or [Linode](https://www.linode.com/support-experience/), with their independence, sense of mission, love of Linux & free software, all of which tells me they are good guys.\n
      \n
      Probably the correct answer is (1) here’s this magical perfect source I never thought of, or (2) I’m thinking this much about it, I should probably do Nextcloud or syncthing given all the constraints that I’m putting out there.\n
      \n
      Anyway, that’s my thoughts on cloud storage. What are yours?
      """
    +type: "article"
    +lang: "en"
    +isOc: false
    +hasEmbed: false
    +commentCount: 25
    +favouriteCount: 41
    +score: 0
    +isAdult: false
    +sticky: false
    +lastActive: DateTime @1689719793 {#2414
      date: 2023-07-19 00:36:33.0 +02:00
    }
    +ip: null
    +adaAmount: 0
    +tags: null
    +mentions: null
    +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1884 …}
    +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1973 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1959 …}
    +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1927 …}
    +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2442 …}
    +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2440 …}
    +children: []
    -id: 1294
    -titleTs: "'2022':11 'best':1 'cloud':7 'googl':6 'non':5 'non-googl':4 'option':2 'storag':8"
    -bodyTs: "'-2':23 '/),':451 '/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':77 '/pricing)':123 '/pro)':173 '/support-experience/),':471 '1':22,337,497 '115':240 '2':509 '2tb':88,244 '350':94 '5tb':126 '70':290 '80/year':129 'afford':125 'also':387 'amazon':364 'android':208,333 'answer':495 'anti':179 'anti-googl':178 'anyway':534 'app':209,220,334 'appl':366 'ash':187 'attitud':183 'avoid':301,391 'bad':229,303,348,402,444 'best':8,134 'born':184 'box':406 'break':19 'built':191 'catastroph':275 'close':359 'cloud':9,540 'connect':203 'constraint':527 'correct':265,494 'could':282 'day':13 'deal':135 'death':361 'drap':362 'dropbox':324,404 'emphas':457 'encrypt':182,192 'enough':297,433 'even':33,216,331 'everyth':284,318 'exact':435 'expens':238 'explor':211 'failur':279 'far':73 'feel':5,286 'file':454 'free':307,313,338,379,481 'given':524 'go':353 'good':147,375,432,441,459,490 'googl':180,320,363 'govern':460 'guy':148,304,349,403,442,445,491 'halfway':34 'hear':228 'homebrew':248,259 'ident':140 'idriv':120 'imit':400 'independ':474 'integr':356 'interfac':108 'intrigu':78 'kinda':398 'kinda-sorta':397 'know':103,115 'knowledg':195 'labor':273 'lemmi':3 'lifetim':85 'like':38,175,261,287,426,447 'linod':468 'linux':480 'long':163,419 'long-term':162 'longev':463 'lose':283 'lot':98 'love':106,199,478 'm':27,67,154,289,352,383,409,511,530 'magic':501 'make':161 'mayb':64 'mean':152 'mediafir':326,405 'mega':170,219,328 'mega.io':172 'mega.io/pro)':171 'megaupload':189 'microsoft':365 'might':131 'mind':42 'mission':477 'much':269,413,514 'need':50,217 'netflix':60 'never':505 'nextcloud':262,521 'noth':137,430 'offer':336 'onedr':322 'option':11 'pay':82 'pcloud':74 'peac':40 'per':241 'perfect':502 'person':246 'plan':86,169 'point':277 'potenti':44 'prefer':389 'pretti':237 'price':61 'principl':461 'privaci':458 'probabl':31,492,519 'product':385 'promis':165,421 'put':531 'quit':253 'rang':25,62 're':428 'readi':68 'realli':16 'say':429 'sens':475 'servic':380,466 'setup':260 'singl':276 'smart':296 'softwar':482 'solid':210 'someth':57,65,345,392,439,446 'sorta':399 'sound':425 'sourc':360,503 'space':47 'specif':168,418 'standardnot':448 'standardnotes.com':450 'standardnotes.com/),':449 'storag':10,90,455,541 'stuff':249,308 'subscrib':55 'suggest':141 'super':124 'sure':156,411 'syncth':264,523 'tb':24 'tell':486 'term':164,271,420 'terrabyt':339 'therefor':213 'thing':230 'think':54,512 'though':233 'thought':71,506,538 'thoughts/reasoning/caveats':247 'too-good-to-be-tru':373 'tri':311 'true':378 'trust':118,158,254,416 'upkeep':274 'upstart':395 'usabl':110 'use':257 've':310 'version':314 'want':17,225,344,371,438 'way':293 'would':388 'www.idrive.com':122 'www.idrive.com/pricing)':121 'www.linode.com':470 'www.linode.com/support-experience/),':469 'www.pcloud.com':76 'www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':75 'year':242 'yet':30 'zero':194"
    +cross: false
    +upVotes: 0
    +downVotes: 0
    +ranking: 1642260128
    +visibility: "visible             "
    +apId: "https://lemmy.ml/post/149005"
    +editedAt: null
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1642173728 {#1793
      date: 2022-01-14 16:22:08.0 +01:00
    }
  }
  +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
  +image: null
  +parent: App\Entity\EntryComment {#4944
    +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#4945 …}
    +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419}
    +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
    +image: null
    +parent: App\Entity\EntryComment {#4664
      +user: App\Entity\User {#4677 …}
      +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419}
      +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
      +image: null
      +parent: null
      +root: null
      +body: "Proton Drive maybe?"
      +lang: "en"
      +isAdult: false
      +favouriteCount: 12
      +score: 0
      +lastActive: DateTime @1689430811 {#4659
        date: 2023-07-15 16:20:11.0 +02:00
      }
      +ip: null
      +tags: null
      +mentions: [
        "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
      ]
      +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4665 …}
      +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4667 …}
      +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4669 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4671 …}
      +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4673 …}
      +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4675 …}
      -id: 18012
      -bodyTs: "'drive':2 'mayb':3 'proton':1"
      +ranking: 0
      +commentCount: 0
      +upVotes: 0
      +downVotes: 0
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +apId: "https://lemmy.world/comment/1299714"
      +editedAt: null
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689425669 {#4660
        date: 2023-07-15 14:54:29.0 +02:00
      }
    }
    +root: App\Entity\EntryComment {#4664}
    +body: "Last time I checked (which was a while ago) they were still working on implementing some basic things. Do you know if it’s improved now?"
    +lang: "en"
    +isAdult: false
    +favouriteCount: 0
    +score: 0
    +lastActive: DateTime @1689430384 {#4942
      date: 2023-07-15 16:13:04.0 +02:00
    }
    +ip: null
    +tags: null
    +mentions: [
      "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
      "@asbestos@lemmy.world"
    ]
    +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4946 …}
    +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4948 …}
    +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4950 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4952 …}
    +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4954 …}
    +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4956 …}
    -id: 18132
    -bodyTs: "'ago':9 'basic':17 'check':4 'implement':15 'improv':25 'know':21 'last':1 'still':12 'thing':18 'time':2 'work':13"
    +ranking: 0
    +commentCount: 0
    +upVotes: 0
    +downVotes: 0
    +visibility: "visible             "
    +apId: "https://lemmy.world/comment/1302083"
    +editedAt: null
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689430384 {#4943
      date: 2023-07-15 16:13:04.0 +02:00
    }
  }
  +root: App\Entity\EntryComment {#4664}
  +body: "They just released a Windows client I think so it’s definitely coming along."
  +lang: "en"
  +isAdult: false
  +favouriteCount: 6
  +score: 0
  +lastActive: DateTime @1689430636 {#5016
    date: 2023-07-15 16:17:16.0 +02:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +tags: null
  +mentions: [
    "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
    "@asbestos@lemmy.world"
    "@TheGiantKorean@lemmy.world"
  ]
  +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5010 …}
  +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5004 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5008 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5019 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5021 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5023 …}
  -id: 18147
  -bodyTs: "'along':14 'client':6 'come':13 'definit':12 'releas':3 'think':8 'window':5"
  +ranking: 0
  +commentCount: 0
  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://lemmy.fmhy.ml/comment/1073032"
  +editedAt: null
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689430636 {#5013
    date: 2023-07-15 16:17:16.0 +02:00
  }
}
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
72 DENIED moderate 
App\Entity\EntryComment {#5015
  +user: App\Entity\User {#4529 …}
  +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419
    +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#1970 …}
    +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265
      +icon: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#246 …}
      +name: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +title: "asklemmy"
      +description: """
        A loosely moderated place to ask open-ended questions\n
        \n
        **[Search asklemmy](https://lemmy.ml/search?q=&type=Posts&listingType=All&communityId=8&page=1&sort=TopAll) 🔍**\n
        \n
        If your post meets the following criteria, it’s welcome here!\n
        \n
        1. Open-ended\n
        2. Not offensive: at this point, we do not have the bandwidth to moderate overtly political discussions\n
        3. **Not regarding using or support for Lemmy**: [context](https://lemmy.ml/post/1223478), find help in the list of support alternatives below\n
        4. Not ad nauseam inducing: please make sure it is a question that would be new to most members\n
        5. [An actual topic of discussion](https://lemmy.ml/post/1239589)\n
        \n
        Support alternatives:\n
        \n
        - [!lemmy_support@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/lemmy_support)\n
        - [!nostupidlemmyquestions@lemmy.dbzer0.com](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/nostupidlemmyquestions)\n
        - [!selfhosted@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/selfhosted)\n
        \n
        ~Icon~ ~by~ ~@Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de~
        """
      +rules: null
      +subscriptionsCount: 0
      +entryCount: 580
      +entryCommentCount: 15558
      +postCount: 7
      +postCommentCount: 129
      +isAdult: false
      +customCss: null
      +lastActive: DateTime @1689748304 {#275
        date: 2023-07-19 08:31:44.0 +02:00
      }
      +markedForDeletionAt: null
      +tags: null
      +moderators: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#237 …}
      +ownershipRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#233 …}
      +moderatorRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#222 …}
      +entries: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#180 …}
      +posts: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#138 …}
      +subscriptions: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#200 …}
      +bans: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#117 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#103 …}
      +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#81 …}
      +logs: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#71 …}
      +awards: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1346 …}
      +categories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1823 …}
      -id: 9
      +apId: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +apProfileId: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apPublicUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apFollowersUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy/followers"
      +apInboxUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/inbox"
      +apDomain: "lemmy.ml"
      +apPreferredUsername: "asklemmy"
      +apDiscoverable: true
      +apManuallyApprovesFollowers: null
      +privateKey: null
      +publicKey: null
      +apFetchedAt: DateTime @1689747596 {#269
        date: 2023-07-19 08:19:56.0 +02:00
      }
      +apDeletedAt: null
      +apTimeoutAt: null
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1686889707 {#271
        date: 2023-06-16 06:28:27.0 +02:00
      }
    }
    +image: null
    +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#1915 …}
    +slug: "Best-options-for-Non-Google-cloud-storage-as-of-2022"
    +title: "Best options for Non-Google cloud storage as of 2022?"
    +url: null
    +body: """
      What are Lemmy’s feelings about the best cloud storage options these days, if you really want to break into the 1-2TB range? I’m not there yet, probably not even halfway there, but I like the peace of mind of potentially having the space if I need it. And I think subscribing to something in the Netflix price range is maybe something I’m ready for.\n
      \n
      My thoughts so far:\n
      \n
      [pcloud](https://www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime) - Intriguing because you can pay for a “lifetime” plan of 2TB of storage. But it’s $350, which is a lot, and I don’t know that I love the interface or usability, and I don’t know if I trust them.\n
      \n
      [iDrive](https://www.idrive.com/pricing) - Super affordable. 5tb for “just” $80/year. It might be the best deal, but nothing about their identity suggests to me that they are “good guys.” By which I mean, I’m not sure I trust them to make long-term promises for any specific plan.\n
      \n
      [Mega](https://mega.io/pro) - I like its very anti-google, very encrypted attitude. Born from the ashes of megaupload, they built encryption and zero knowledge into it. I LOVE that you can connect to it through the android app Solid Explorer and therefore don’t even need the mega app if you don’t want it. I hear bad things about it though? And it’s pretty expensive at $115 per year for 2TB.\n
      \n
      My personal thoughts/reasoning/caveats:\n
      \n
      **Homebrew stuff**: I don’t *quite* trust myself to use a homebrew setup like Nextcloud or Syncthing correctly. There’s too much in terms of labor, upkeep, catastrophic single points of failure where you could lose everything. I feel like I’m 70% of the way to being smart enough to do this.\n
      \n
      **Avoiding the Bad Guys and the Free Stuff**: I’ve tried the free version of just about everything, from Google to Onedrive to Dropbox to Mediafire to Mega. There’s even an android app that offers 1 free terrabyte?? But I don’t want something from the bad guys where I’m going to be integrated into their closed source death drap: Google, Amazon, Microsoft, Apple, and I don’t want a too-good-to-be-true free service where I’m the product.\n
      \n
      I also would prefer to avoid something from the upstarts who kinda-sorta imitate the bad guys: Dropbox, Mediafire, Box. Because I’m not sure how much I can trust any specific long term promise from them.\n
      \n
      **It sounds like you’re saying nothing is good enough! What exactly do you want!?** Something from good guys, not bad guys. Something like [Standardnotes](https://standardnotes.com/), but for file storage. They emphasize privacy, good governance principles and longevity of their service. Or [Linode](https://www.linode.com/support-experience/), with their independence, sense of mission, love of Linux & free software, all of which tells me they are good guys.\n
      \n
      Probably the correct answer is (1) here’s this magical perfect source I never thought of, or (2) I’m thinking this much about it, I should probably do Nextcloud or syncthing given all the constraints that I’m putting out there.\n
      \n
      Anyway, that’s my thoughts on cloud storage. What are yours?
      """
    +type: "article"
    +lang: "en"
    +isOc: false
    +hasEmbed: false
    +commentCount: 25
    +favouriteCount: 41
    +score: 0
    +isAdult: false
    +sticky: false
    +lastActive: DateTime @1689719793 {#2414
      date: 2023-07-19 00:36:33.0 +02:00
    }
    +ip: null
    +adaAmount: 0
    +tags: null
    +mentions: null
    +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1884 …}
    +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1973 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1959 …}
    +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1927 …}
    +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2442 …}
    +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2440 …}
    +children: []
    -id: 1294
    -titleTs: "'2022':11 'best':1 'cloud':7 'googl':6 'non':5 'non-googl':4 'option':2 'storag':8"
    -bodyTs: "'-2':23 '/),':451 '/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':77 '/pricing)':123 '/pro)':173 '/support-experience/),':471 '1':22,337,497 '115':240 '2':509 '2tb':88,244 '350':94 '5tb':126 '70':290 '80/year':129 'afford':125 'also':387 'amazon':364 'android':208,333 'answer':495 'anti':179 'anti-googl':178 'anyway':534 'app':209,220,334 'appl':366 'ash':187 'attitud':183 'avoid':301,391 'bad':229,303,348,402,444 'best':8,134 'born':184 'box':406 'break':19 'built':191 'catastroph':275 'close':359 'cloud':9,540 'connect':203 'constraint':527 'correct':265,494 'could':282 'day':13 'deal':135 'death':361 'drap':362 'dropbox':324,404 'emphas':457 'encrypt':182,192 'enough':297,433 'even':33,216,331 'everyth':284,318 'exact':435 'expens':238 'explor':211 'failur':279 'far':73 'feel':5,286 'file':454 'free':307,313,338,379,481 'given':524 'go':353 'good':147,375,432,441,459,490 'googl':180,320,363 'govern':460 'guy':148,304,349,403,442,445,491 'halfway':34 'hear':228 'homebrew':248,259 'ident':140 'idriv':120 'imit':400 'independ':474 'integr':356 'interfac':108 'intrigu':78 'kinda':398 'kinda-sorta':397 'know':103,115 'knowledg':195 'labor':273 'lemmi':3 'lifetim':85 'like':38,175,261,287,426,447 'linod':468 'linux':480 'long':163,419 'long-term':162 'longev':463 'lose':283 'lot':98 'love':106,199,478 'm':27,67,154,289,352,383,409,511,530 'magic':501 'make':161 'mayb':64 'mean':152 'mediafir':326,405 'mega':170,219,328 'mega.io':172 'mega.io/pro)':171 'megaupload':189 'microsoft':365 'might':131 'mind':42 'mission':477 'much':269,413,514 'need':50,217 'netflix':60 'never':505 'nextcloud':262,521 'noth':137,430 'offer':336 'onedr':322 'option':11 'pay':82 'pcloud':74 'peac':40 'per':241 'perfect':502 'person':246 'plan':86,169 'point':277 'potenti':44 'prefer':389 'pretti':237 'price':61 'principl':461 'privaci':458 'probabl':31,492,519 'product':385 'promis':165,421 'put':531 'quit':253 'rang':25,62 're':428 'readi':68 'realli':16 'say':429 'sens':475 'servic':380,466 'setup':260 'singl':276 'smart':296 'softwar':482 'solid':210 'someth':57,65,345,392,439,446 'sorta':399 'sound':425 'sourc':360,503 'space':47 'specif':168,418 'standardnot':448 'standardnotes.com':450 'standardnotes.com/),':449 'storag':10,90,455,541 'stuff':249,308 'subscrib':55 'suggest':141 'super':124 'sure':156,411 'syncth':264,523 'tb':24 'tell':486 'term':164,271,420 'terrabyt':339 'therefor':213 'thing':230 'think':54,512 'though':233 'thought':71,506,538 'thoughts/reasoning/caveats':247 'too-good-to-be-tru':373 'tri':311 'true':378 'trust':118,158,254,416 'upkeep':274 'upstart':395 'usabl':110 'use':257 've':310 'version':314 'want':17,225,344,371,438 'way':293 'would':388 'www.idrive.com':122 'www.idrive.com/pricing)':121 'www.linode.com':470 'www.linode.com/support-experience/),':469 'www.pcloud.com':76 'www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':75 'year':242 'yet':30 'zero':194"
    +cross: false
    +upVotes: 0
    +downVotes: 0
    +ranking: 1642260128
    +visibility: "visible             "
    +apId: "https://lemmy.ml/post/149005"
    +editedAt: null
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1642173728 {#1793
      date: 2022-01-14 16:22:08.0 +01:00
    }
  }
  +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
  +image: null
  +parent: App\Entity\EntryComment {#4944
    +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#4945 …}
    +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419}
    +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
    +image: null
    +parent: App\Entity\EntryComment {#4664
      +user: App\Entity\User {#4677 …}
      +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419}
      +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
      +image: null
      +parent: null
      +root: null
      +body: "Proton Drive maybe?"
      +lang: "en"
      +isAdult: false
      +favouriteCount: 12
      +score: 0
      +lastActive: DateTime @1689430811 {#4659
        date: 2023-07-15 16:20:11.0 +02:00
      }
      +ip: null
      +tags: null
      +mentions: [
        "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
      ]
      +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4665 …}
      +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4667 …}
      +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4669 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4671 …}
      +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4673 …}
      +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4675 …}
      -id: 18012
      -bodyTs: "'drive':2 'mayb':3 'proton':1"
      +ranking: 0
      +commentCount: 0
      +upVotes: 0
      +downVotes: 0
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +apId: "https://lemmy.world/comment/1299714"
      +editedAt: null
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689425669 {#4660
        date: 2023-07-15 14:54:29.0 +02:00
      }
    }
    +root: App\Entity\EntryComment {#4664}
    +body: "Last time I checked (which was a while ago) they were still working on implementing some basic things. Do you know if it’s improved now?"
    +lang: "en"
    +isAdult: false
    +favouriteCount: 0
    +score: 0
    +lastActive: DateTime @1689430384 {#4942
      date: 2023-07-15 16:13:04.0 +02:00
    }
    +ip: null
    +tags: null
    +mentions: [
      "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
      "@asbestos@lemmy.world"
    ]
    +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4946 …}
    +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4948 …}
    +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4950 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4952 …}
    +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4954 …}
    +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4956 …}
    -id: 18132
    -bodyTs: "'ago':9 'basic':17 'check':4 'implement':15 'improv':25 'know':21 'last':1 'still':12 'thing':18 'time':2 'work':13"
    +ranking: 0
    +commentCount: 0
    +upVotes: 0
    +downVotes: 0
    +visibility: "visible             "
    +apId: "https://lemmy.world/comment/1302083"
    +editedAt: null
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689430384 {#4943
      date: 2023-07-15 16:13:04.0 +02:00
    }
  }
  +root: App\Entity\EntryComment {#4664}
  +body: "They just released a Windows client I think so it’s definitely coming along."
  +lang: "en"
  +isAdult: false
  +favouriteCount: 6
  +score: 0
  +lastActive: DateTime @1689430636 {#5016
    date: 2023-07-15 16:17:16.0 +02:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +tags: null
  +mentions: [
    "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
    "@asbestos@lemmy.world"
    "@TheGiantKorean@lemmy.world"
  ]
  +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5010 …}
  +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5004 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5008 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5019 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5021 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5023 …}
  -id: 18147
  -bodyTs: "'along':14 'client':6 'come':13 'definit':12 'releas':3 'think':8 'window':5"
  +ranking: 0
  +commentCount: 0
  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://lemmy.fmhy.ml/comment/1073032"
  +editedAt: null
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689430636 {#5013
    date: 2023-07-15 16:17:16.0 +02:00
  }
}
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
73 DENIED ROLE_USER 
null
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
74 DENIED moderate 
App\Entity\EntryComment {#5077
  +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#4945 …}
  +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419
    +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#1970 …}
    +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265
      +icon: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#246 …}
      +name: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +title: "asklemmy"
      +description: """
        A loosely moderated place to ask open-ended questions\n
        \n
        **[Search asklemmy](https://lemmy.ml/search?q=&type=Posts&listingType=All&communityId=8&page=1&sort=TopAll) 🔍**\n
        \n
        If your post meets the following criteria, it’s welcome here!\n
        \n
        1. Open-ended\n
        2. Not offensive: at this point, we do not have the bandwidth to moderate overtly political discussions\n
        3. **Not regarding using or support for Lemmy**: [context](https://lemmy.ml/post/1223478), find help in the list of support alternatives below\n
        4. Not ad nauseam inducing: please make sure it is a question that would be new to most members\n
        5. [An actual topic of discussion](https://lemmy.ml/post/1239589)\n
        \n
        Support alternatives:\n
        \n
        - [!lemmy_support@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/lemmy_support)\n
        - [!nostupidlemmyquestions@lemmy.dbzer0.com](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/nostupidlemmyquestions)\n
        - [!selfhosted@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/selfhosted)\n
        \n
        ~Icon~ ~by~ ~@Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de~
        """
      +rules: null
      +subscriptionsCount: 0
      +entryCount: 580
      +entryCommentCount: 15558
      +postCount: 7
      +postCommentCount: 129
      +isAdult: false
      +customCss: null
      +lastActive: DateTime @1689748304 {#275
        date: 2023-07-19 08:31:44.0 +02:00
      }
      +markedForDeletionAt: null
      +tags: null
      +moderators: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#237 …}
      +ownershipRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#233 …}
      +moderatorRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#222 …}
      +entries: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#180 …}
      +posts: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#138 …}
      +subscriptions: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#200 …}
      +bans: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#117 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#103 …}
      +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#81 …}
      +logs: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#71 …}
      +awards: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1346 …}
      +categories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1823 …}
      -id: 9
      +apId: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +apProfileId: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apPublicUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apFollowersUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy/followers"
      +apInboxUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/inbox"
      +apDomain: "lemmy.ml"
      +apPreferredUsername: "asklemmy"
      +apDiscoverable: true
      +apManuallyApprovesFollowers: null
      +privateKey: null
      +publicKey: null
      +apFetchedAt: DateTime @1689747596 {#269
        date: 2023-07-19 08:19:56.0 +02:00
      }
      +apDeletedAt: null
      +apTimeoutAt: null
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1686889707 {#271
        date: 2023-06-16 06:28:27.0 +02:00
      }
    }
    +image: null
    +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#1915 …}
    +slug: "Best-options-for-Non-Google-cloud-storage-as-of-2022"
    +title: "Best options for Non-Google cloud storage as of 2022?"
    +url: null
    +body: """
      What are Lemmy’s feelings about the best cloud storage options these days, if you really want to break into the 1-2TB range? I’m not there yet, probably not even halfway there, but I like the peace of mind of potentially having the space if I need it. And I think subscribing to something in the Netflix price range is maybe something I’m ready for.\n
      \n
      My thoughts so far:\n
      \n
      [pcloud](https://www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime) - Intriguing because you can pay for a “lifetime” plan of 2TB of storage. But it’s $350, which is a lot, and I don’t know that I love the interface or usability, and I don’t know if I trust them.\n
      \n
      [iDrive](https://www.idrive.com/pricing) - Super affordable. 5tb for “just” $80/year. It might be the best deal, but nothing about their identity suggests to me that they are “good guys.” By which I mean, I’m not sure I trust them to make long-term promises for any specific plan.\n
      \n
      [Mega](https://mega.io/pro) - I like its very anti-google, very encrypted attitude. Born from the ashes of megaupload, they built encryption and zero knowledge into it. I LOVE that you can connect to it through the android app Solid Explorer and therefore don’t even need the mega app if you don’t want it. I hear bad things about it though? And it’s pretty expensive at $115 per year for 2TB.\n
      \n
      My personal thoughts/reasoning/caveats:\n
      \n
      **Homebrew stuff**: I don’t *quite* trust myself to use a homebrew setup like Nextcloud or Syncthing correctly. There’s too much in terms of labor, upkeep, catastrophic single points of failure where you could lose everything. I feel like I’m 70% of the way to being smart enough to do this.\n
      \n
      **Avoiding the Bad Guys and the Free Stuff**: I’ve tried the free version of just about everything, from Google to Onedrive to Dropbox to Mediafire to Mega. There’s even an android app that offers 1 free terrabyte?? But I don’t want something from the bad guys where I’m going to be integrated into their closed source death drap: Google, Amazon, Microsoft, Apple, and I don’t want a too-good-to-be-true free service where I’m the product.\n
      \n
      I also would prefer to avoid something from the upstarts who kinda-sorta imitate the bad guys: Dropbox, Mediafire, Box. Because I’m not sure how much I can trust any specific long term promise from them.\n
      \n
      **It sounds like you’re saying nothing is good enough! What exactly do you want!?** Something from good guys, not bad guys. Something like [Standardnotes](https://standardnotes.com/), but for file storage. They emphasize privacy, good governance principles and longevity of their service. Or [Linode](https://www.linode.com/support-experience/), with their independence, sense of mission, love of Linux & free software, all of which tells me they are good guys.\n
      \n
      Probably the correct answer is (1) here’s this magical perfect source I never thought of, or (2) I’m thinking this much about it, I should probably do Nextcloud or syncthing given all the constraints that I’m putting out there.\n
      \n
      Anyway, that’s my thoughts on cloud storage. What are yours?
      """
    +type: "article"
    +lang: "en"
    +isOc: false
    +hasEmbed: false
    +commentCount: 25
    +favouriteCount: 41
    +score: 0
    +isAdult: false
    +sticky: false
    +lastActive: DateTime @1689719793 {#2414
      date: 2023-07-19 00:36:33.0 +02:00
    }
    +ip: null
    +adaAmount: 0
    +tags: null
    +mentions: null
    +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1884 …}
    +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1973 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1959 …}
    +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1927 …}
    +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2442 …}
    +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2440 …}
    +children: []
    -id: 1294
    -titleTs: "'2022':11 'best':1 'cloud':7 'googl':6 'non':5 'non-googl':4 'option':2 'storag':8"
    -bodyTs: "'-2':23 '/),':451 '/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':77 '/pricing)':123 '/pro)':173 '/support-experience/),':471 '1':22,337,497 '115':240 '2':509 '2tb':88,244 '350':94 '5tb':126 '70':290 '80/year':129 'afford':125 'also':387 'amazon':364 'android':208,333 'answer':495 'anti':179 'anti-googl':178 'anyway':534 'app':209,220,334 'appl':366 'ash':187 'attitud':183 'avoid':301,391 'bad':229,303,348,402,444 'best':8,134 'born':184 'box':406 'break':19 'built':191 'catastroph':275 'close':359 'cloud':9,540 'connect':203 'constraint':527 'correct':265,494 'could':282 'day':13 'deal':135 'death':361 'drap':362 'dropbox':324,404 'emphas':457 'encrypt':182,192 'enough':297,433 'even':33,216,331 'everyth':284,318 'exact':435 'expens':238 'explor':211 'failur':279 'far':73 'feel':5,286 'file':454 'free':307,313,338,379,481 'given':524 'go':353 'good':147,375,432,441,459,490 'googl':180,320,363 'govern':460 'guy':148,304,349,403,442,445,491 'halfway':34 'hear':228 'homebrew':248,259 'ident':140 'idriv':120 'imit':400 'independ':474 'integr':356 'interfac':108 'intrigu':78 'kinda':398 'kinda-sorta':397 'know':103,115 'knowledg':195 'labor':273 'lemmi':3 'lifetim':85 'like':38,175,261,287,426,447 'linod':468 'linux':480 'long':163,419 'long-term':162 'longev':463 'lose':283 'lot':98 'love':106,199,478 'm':27,67,154,289,352,383,409,511,530 'magic':501 'make':161 'mayb':64 'mean':152 'mediafir':326,405 'mega':170,219,328 'mega.io':172 'mega.io/pro)':171 'megaupload':189 'microsoft':365 'might':131 'mind':42 'mission':477 'much':269,413,514 'need':50,217 'netflix':60 'never':505 'nextcloud':262,521 'noth':137,430 'offer':336 'onedr':322 'option':11 'pay':82 'pcloud':74 'peac':40 'per':241 'perfect':502 'person':246 'plan':86,169 'point':277 'potenti':44 'prefer':389 'pretti':237 'price':61 'principl':461 'privaci':458 'probabl':31,492,519 'product':385 'promis':165,421 'put':531 'quit':253 'rang':25,62 're':428 'readi':68 'realli':16 'say':429 'sens':475 'servic':380,466 'setup':260 'singl':276 'smart':296 'softwar':482 'solid':210 'someth':57,65,345,392,439,446 'sorta':399 'sound':425 'sourc':360,503 'space':47 'specif':168,418 'standardnot':448 'standardnotes.com':450 'standardnotes.com/),':449 'storag':10,90,455,541 'stuff':249,308 'subscrib':55 'suggest':141 'super':124 'sure':156,411 'syncth':264,523 'tb':24 'tell':486 'term':164,271,420 'terrabyt':339 'therefor':213 'thing':230 'think':54,512 'though':233 'thought':71,506,538 'thoughts/reasoning/caveats':247 'too-good-to-be-tru':373 'tri':311 'true':378 'trust':118,158,254,416 'upkeep':274 'upstart':395 'usabl':110 'use':257 've':310 'version':314 'want':17,225,344,371,438 'way':293 'would':388 'www.idrive.com':122 'www.idrive.com/pricing)':121 'www.linode.com':470 'www.linode.com/support-experience/),':469 'www.pcloud.com':76 'www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':75 'year':242 'yet':30 'zero':194"
    +cross: false
    +upVotes: 0
    +downVotes: 0
    +ranking: 1642260128
    +visibility: "visible             "
    +apId: "https://lemmy.ml/post/149005"
    +editedAt: null
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1642173728 {#1793
      date: 2022-01-14 16:22:08.0 +01:00
    }
  }
  +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
  +image: null
  +parent: App\Entity\EntryComment {#5015
    +user: App\Entity\User {#4529 …}
    +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419}
    +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
    +image: null
    +parent: App\Entity\EntryComment {#4944
      +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#4945 …}
      +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419}
      +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
      +image: null
      +parent: App\Entity\EntryComment {#4664
        +user: App\Entity\User {#4677 …}
        +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419}
        +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
        +image: null
        +parent: null
        +root: null
        +body: "Proton Drive maybe?"
        +lang: "en"
        +isAdult: false
        +favouriteCount: 12
        +score: 0
        +lastActive: DateTime @1689430811 {#4659
          date: 2023-07-15 16:20:11.0 +02:00
        }
        +ip: null
        +tags: null
        +mentions: [
          "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
        ]
        +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4665 …}
        +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4667 …}
        +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4669 …}
        +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4671 …}
        +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4673 …}
        +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4675 …}
        -id: 18012
        -bodyTs: "'drive':2 'mayb':3 'proton':1"
        +ranking: 0
        +commentCount: 0
        +upVotes: 0
        +downVotes: 0
        +visibility: "visible             "
        +apId: "https://lemmy.world/comment/1299714"
        +editedAt: null
        +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689425669 {#4660
          date: 2023-07-15 14:54:29.0 +02:00
        }
      }
      +root: App\Entity\EntryComment {#4664}
      +body: "Last time I checked (which was a while ago) they were still working on implementing some basic things. Do you know if it’s improved now?"
      +lang: "en"
      +isAdult: false
      +favouriteCount: 0
      +score: 0
      +lastActive: DateTime @1689430384 {#4942
        date: 2023-07-15 16:13:04.0 +02:00
      }
      +ip: null
      +tags: null
      +mentions: [
        "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
        "@asbestos@lemmy.world"
      ]
      +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4946 …}
      +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4948 …}
      +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4950 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4952 …}
      +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4954 …}
      +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4956 …}
      -id: 18132
      -bodyTs: "'ago':9 'basic':17 'check':4 'implement':15 'improv':25 'know':21 'last':1 'still':12 'thing':18 'time':2 'work':13"
      +ranking: 0
      +commentCount: 0
      +upVotes: 0
      +downVotes: 0
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +apId: "https://lemmy.world/comment/1302083"
      +editedAt: null
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689430384 {#4943
        date: 2023-07-15 16:13:04.0 +02:00
      }
    }
    +root: App\Entity\EntryComment {#4664}
    +body: "They just released a Windows client I think so it’s definitely coming along."
    +lang: "en"
    +isAdult: false
    +favouriteCount: 6
    +score: 0
    +lastActive: DateTime @1689430636 {#5016
      date: 2023-07-15 16:17:16.0 +02:00
    }
    +ip: null
    +tags: null
    +mentions: [
      "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
      "@asbestos@lemmy.world"
      "@TheGiantKorean@lemmy.world"
    ]
    +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5010 …}
    +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5004 …}
    +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5008 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5019 …}
    +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5021 …}
    +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5023 …}
    -id: 18147
    -bodyTs: "'along':14 'client':6 'come':13 'definit':12 'releas':3 'think':8 'window':5"
    +ranking: 0
    +commentCount: 0
    +upVotes: 0
    +downVotes: 0
    +visibility: "visible             "
    +apId: "https://lemmy.fmhy.ml/comment/1073032"
    +editedAt: null
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689430636 {#5013
      date: 2023-07-15 16:17:16.0 +02:00
    }
  }
  +root: App\Entity\EntryComment {#4664}
  +body: "Nice, thanks. I’m using pCloud currently, which works pretty well, but I don’t think they’re as private as I would like."
  +lang: "en"
  +isAdult: false
  +favouriteCount: 1
  +score: 0
  +lastActive: DateTime @1689430800 {#5076
    date: 2023-07-15 16:20:00.0 +02:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +tags: null
  +mentions: [
    "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
    "@asbestos@lemmy.world"
    "@TheGiantKorean@lemmy.world"
    "@otterpop@lemmy.fmhy.ml"
  ]
  +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5080 …}
  +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5085 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5081 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5087 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5089 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5091 …}
  -id: 18158
  -bodyTs: "'current':7 'like':24 'm':4 'nice':1 'pcloud':6 'pretti':10 'privat':20 're':18 'thank':2 'think':16 'use':5 'well':11 'work':9 'would':23"
  +ranking: 0
  +commentCount: 0
  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://lemmy.world/comment/1302289"
  +editedAt: null
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689430800 {#5073
    date: 2023-07-15 16:20:00.0 +02:00
  }
}
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
75 DENIED edit 
App\Entity\EntryComment {#5077
  +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#4945 …}
  +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419
    +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#1970 …}
    +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265
      +icon: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#246 …}
      +name: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +title: "asklemmy"
      +description: """
        A loosely moderated place to ask open-ended questions\n
        \n
        **[Search asklemmy](https://lemmy.ml/search?q=&type=Posts&listingType=All&communityId=8&page=1&sort=TopAll) 🔍**\n
        \n
        If your post meets the following criteria, it’s welcome here!\n
        \n
        1. Open-ended\n
        2. Not offensive: at this point, we do not have the bandwidth to moderate overtly political discussions\n
        3. **Not regarding using or support for Lemmy**: [context](https://lemmy.ml/post/1223478), find help in the list of support alternatives below\n
        4. Not ad nauseam inducing: please make sure it is a question that would be new to most members\n
        5. [An actual topic of discussion](https://lemmy.ml/post/1239589)\n
        \n
        Support alternatives:\n
        \n
        - [!lemmy_support@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/lemmy_support)\n
        - [!nostupidlemmyquestions@lemmy.dbzer0.com](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/nostupidlemmyquestions)\n
        - [!selfhosted@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/selfhosted)\n
        \n
        ~Icon~ ~by~ ~@Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de~
        """
      +rules: null
      +subscriptionsCount: 0
      +entryCount: 580
      +entryCommentCount: 15558
      +postCount: 7
      +postCommentCount: 129
      +isAdult: false
      +customCss: null
      +lastActive: DateTime @1689748304 {#275
        date: 2023-07-19 08:31:44.0 +02:00
      }
      +markedForDeletionAt: null
      +tags: null
      +moderators: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#237 …}
      +ownershipRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#233 …}
      +moderatorRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#222 …}
      +entries: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#180 …}
      +posts: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#138 …}
      +subscriptions: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#200 …}
      +bans: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#117 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#103 …}
      +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#81 …}
      +logs: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#71 …}
      +awards: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1346 …}
      +categories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1823 …}
      -id: 9
      +apId: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +apProfileId: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apPublicUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apFollowersUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy/followers"
      +apInboxUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/inbox"
      +apDomain: "lemmy.ml"
      +apPreferredUsername: "asklemmy"
      +apDiscoverable: true
      +apManuallyApprovesFollowers: null
      +privateKey: null
      +publicKey: null
      +apFetchedAt: DateTime @1689747596 {#269
        date: 2023-07-19 08:19:56.0 +02:00
      }
      +apDeletedAt: null
      +apTimeoutAt: null
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1686889707 {#271
        date: 2023-06-16 06:28:27.0 +02:00
      }
    }
    +image: null
    +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#1915 …}
    +slug: "Best-options-for-Non-Google-cloud-storage-as-of-2022"
    +title: "Best options for Non-Google cloud storage as of 2022?"
    +url: null
    +body: """
      What are Lemmy’s feelings about the best cloud storage options these days, if you really want to break into the 1-2TB range? I’m not there yet, probably not even halfway there, but I like the peace of mind of potentially having the space if I need it. And I think subscribing to something in the Netflix price range is maybe something I’m ready for.\n
      \n
      My thoughts so far:\n
      \n
      [pcloud](https://www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime) - Intriguing because you can pay for a “lifetime” plan of 2TB of storage. But it’s $350, which is a lot, and I don’t know that I love the interface or usability, and I don’t know if I trust them.\n
      \n
      [iDrive](https://www.idrive.com/pricing) - Super affordable. 5tb for “just” $80/year. It might be the best deal, but nothing about their identity suggests to me that they are “good guys.” By which I mean, I’m not sure I trust them to make long-term promises for any specific plan.\n
      \n
      [Mega](https://mega.io/pro) - I like its very anti-google, very encrypted attitude. Born from the ashes of megaupload, they built encryption and zero knowledge into it. I LOVE that you can connect to it through the android app Solid Explorer and therefore don’t even need the mega app if you don’t want it. I hear bad things about it though? And it’s pretty expensive at $115 per year for 2TB.\n
      \n
      My personal thoughts/reasoning/caveats:\n
      \n
      **Homebrew stuff**: I don’t *quite* trust myself to use a homebrew setup like Nextcloud or Syncthing correctly. There’s too much in terms of labor, upkeep, catastrophic single points of failure where you could lose everything. I feel like I’m 70% of the way to being smart enough to do this.\n
      \n
      **Avoiding the Bad Guys and the Free Stuff**: I’ve tried the free version of just about everything, from Google to Onedrive to Dropbox to Mediafire to Mega. There’s even an android app that offers 1 free terrabyte?? But I don’t want something from the bad guys where I’m going to be integrated into their closed source death drap: Google, Amazon, Microsoft, Apple, and I don’t want a too-good-to-be-true free service where I’m the product.\n
      \n
      I also would prefer to avoid something from the upstarts who kinda-sorta imitate the bad guys: Dropbox, Mediafire, Box. Because I’m not sure how much I can trust any specific long term promise from them.\n
      \n
      **It sounds like you’re saying nothing is good enough! What exactly do you want!?** Something from good guys, not bad guys. Something like [Standardnotes](https://standardnotes.com/), but for file storage. They emphasize privacy, good governance principles and longevity of their service. Or [Linode](https://www.linode.com/support-experience/), with their independence, sense of mission, love of Linux & free software, all of which tells me they are good guys.\n
      \n
      Probably the correct answer is (1) here’s this magical perfect source I never thought of, or (2) I’m thinking this much about it, I should probably do Nextcloud or syncthing given all the constraints that I’m putting out there.\n
      \n
      Anyway, that’s my thoughts on cloud storage. What are yours?
      """
    +type: "article"
    +lang: "en"
    +isOc: false
    +hasEmbed: false
    +commentCount: 25
    +favouriteCount: 41
    +score: 0
    +isAdult: false
    +sticky: false
    +lastActive: DateTime @1689719793 {#2414
      date: 2023-07-19 00:36:33.0 +02:00
    }
    +ip: null
    +adaAmount: 0
    +tags: null
    +mentions: null
    +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1884 …}
    +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1973 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1959 …}
    +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1927 …}
    +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2442 …}
    +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2440 …}
    +children: []
    -id: 1294
    -titleTs: "'2022':11 'best':1 'cloud':7 'googl':6 'non':5 'non-googl':4 'option':2 'storag':8"
    -bodyTs: "'-2':23 '/),':451 '/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':77 '/pricing)':123 '/pro)':173 '/support-experience/),':471 '1':22,337,497 '115':240 '2':509 '2tb':88,244 '350':94 '5tb':126 '70':290 '80/year':129 'afford':125 'also':387 'amazon':364 'android':208,333 'answer':495 'anti':179 'anti-googl':178 'anyway':534 'app':209,220,334 'appl':366 'ash':187 'attitud':183 'avoid':301,391 'bad':229,303,348,402,444 'best':8,134 'born':184 'box':406 'break':19 'built':191 'catastroph':275 'close':359 'cloud':9,540 'connect':203 'constraint':527 'correct':265,494 'could':282 'day':13 'deal':135 'death':361 'drap':362 'dropbox':324,404 'emphas':457 'encrypt':182,192 'enough':297,433 'even':33,216,331 'everyth':284,318 'exact':435 'expens':238 'explor':211 'failur':279 'far':73 'feel':5,286 'file':454 'free':307,313,338,379,481 'given':524 'go':353 'good':147,375,432,441,459,490 'googl':180,320,363 'govern':460 'guy':148,304,349,403,442,445,491 'halfway':34 'hear':228 'homebrew':248,259 'ident':140 'idriv':120 'imit':400 'independ':474 'integr':356 'interfac':108 'intrigu':78 'kinda':398 'kinda-sorta':397 'know':103,115 'knowledg':195 'labor':273 'lemmi':3 'lifetim':85 'like':38,175,261,287,426,447 'linod':468 'linux':480 'long':163,419 'long-term':162 'longev':463 'lose':283 'lot':98 'love':106,199,478 'm':27,67,154,289,352,383,409,511,530 'magic':501 'make':161 'mayb':64 'mean':152 'mediafir':326,405 'mega':170,219,328 'mega.io':172 'mega.io/pro)':171 'megaupload':189 'microsoft':365 'might':131 'mind':42 'mission':477 'much':269,413,514 'need':50,217 'netflix':60 'never':505 'nextcloud':262,521 'noth':137,430 'offer':336 'onedr':322 'option':11 'pay':82 'pcloud':74 'peac':40 'per':241 'perfect':502 'person':246 'plan':86,169 'point':277 'potenti':44 'prefer':389 'pretti':237 'price':61 'principl':461 'privaci':458 'probabl':31,492,519 'product':385 'promis':165,421 'put':531 'quit':253 'rang':25,62 're':428 'readi':68 'realli':16 'say':429 'sens':475 'servic':380,466 'setup':260 'singl':276 'smart':296 'softwar':482 'solid':210 'someth':57,65,345,392,439,446 'sorta':399 'sound':425 'sourc':360,503 'space':47 'specif':168,418 'standardnot':448 'standardnotes.com':450 'standardnotes.com/),':449 'storag':10,90,455,541 'stuff':249,308 'subscrib':55 'suggest':141 'super':124 'sure':156,411 'syncth':264,523 'tb':24 'tell':486 'term':164,271,420 'terrabyt':339 'therefor':213 'thing':230 'think':54,512 'though':233 'thought':71,506,538 'thoughts/reasoning/caveats':247 'too-good-to-be-tru':373 'tri':311 'true':378 'trust':118,158,254,416 'upkeep':274 'upstart':395 'usabl':110 'use':257 've':310 'version':314 'want':17,225,344,371,438 'way':293 'would':388 'www.idrive.com':122 'www.idrive.com/pricing)':121 'www.linode.com':470 'www.linode.com/support-experience/),':469 'www.pcloud.com':76 'www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':75 'year':242 'yet':30 'zero':194"
    +cross: false
    +upVotes: 0
    +downVotes: 0
    +ranking: 1642260128
    +visibility: "visible             "
    +apId: "https://lemmy.ml/post/149005"
    +editedAt: null
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1642173728 {#1793
      date: 2022-01-14 16:22:08.0 +01:00
    }
  }
  +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
  +image: null
  +parent: App\Entity\EntryComment {#5015
    +user: App\Entity\User {#4529 …}
    +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419}
    +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
    +image: null
    +parent: App\Entity\EntryComment {#4944
      +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#4945 …}
      +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419}
      +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
      +image: null
      +parent: App\Entity\EntryComment {#4664
        +user: App\Entity\User {#4677 …}
        +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419}
        +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
        +image: null
        +parent: null
        +root: null
        +body: "Proton Drive maybe?"
        +lang: "en"
        +isAdult: false
        +favouriteCount: 12
        +score: 0
        +lastActive: DateTime @1689430811 {#4659
          date: 2023-07-15 16:20:11.0 +02:00
        }
        +ip: null
        +tags: null
        +mentions: [
          "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
        ]
        +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4665 …}
        +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4667 …}
        +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4669 …}
        +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4671 …}
        +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4673 …}
        +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4675 …}
        -id: 18012
        -bodyTs: "'drive':2 'mayb':3 'proton':1"
        +ranking: 0
        +commentCount: 0
        +upVotes: 0
        +downVotes: 0
        +visibility: "visible             "
        +apId: "https://lemmy.world/comment/1299714"
        +editedAt: null
        +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689425669 {#4660
          date: 2023-07-15 14:54:29.0 +02:00
        }
      }
      +root: App\Entity\EntryComment {#4664}
      +body: "Last time I checked (which was a while ago) they were still working on implementing some basic things. Do you know if it’s improved now?"
      +lang: "en"
      +isAdult: false
      +favouriteCount: 0
      +score: 0
      +lastActive: DateTime @1689430384 {#4942
        date: 2023-07-15 16:13:04.0 +02:00
      }
      +ip: null
      +tags: null
      +mentions: [
        "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
        "@asbestos@lemmy.world"
      ]
      +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4946 …}
      +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4948 …}
      +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4950 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4952 …}
      +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4954 …}
      +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4956 …}
      -id: 18132
      -bodyTs: "'ago':9 'basic':17 'check':4 'implement':15 'improv':25 'know':21 'last':1 'still':12 'thing':18 'time':2 'work':13"
      +ranking: 0
      +commentCount: 0
      +upVotes: 0
      +downVotes: 0
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +apId: "https://lemmy.world/comment/1302083"
      +editedAt: null
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689430384 {#4943
        date: 2023-07-15 16:13:04.0 +02:00
      }
    }
    +root: App\Entity\EntryComment {#4664}
    +body: "They just released a Windows client I think so it’s definitely coming along."
    +lang: "en"
    +isAdult: false
    +favouriteCount: 6
    +score: 0
    +lastActive: DateTime @1689430636 {#5016
      date: 2023-07-15 16:17:16.0 +02:00
    }
    +ip: null
    +tags: null
    +mentions: [
      "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
      "@asbestos@lemmy.world"
      "@TheGiantKorean@lemmy.world"
    ]
    +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5010 …}
    +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5004 …}
    +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5008 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5019 …}
    +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5021 …}
    +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5023 …}
    -id: 18147
    -bodyTs: "'along':14 'client':6 'come':13 'definit':12 'releas':3 'think':8 'window':5"
    +ranking: 0
    +commentCount: 0
    +upVotes: 0
    +downVotes: 0
    +visibility: "visible             "
    +apId: "https://lemmy.fmhy.ml/comment/1073032"
    +editedAt: null
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689430636 {#5013
      date: 2023-07-15 16:17:16.0 +02:00
    }
  }
  +root: App\Entity\EntryComment {#4664}
  +body: "Nice, thanks. I’m using pCloud currently, which works pretty well, but I don’t think they’re as private as I would like."
  +lang: "en"
  +isAdult: false
  +favouriteCount: 1
  +score: 0
  +lastActive: DateTime @1689430800 {#5076
    date: 2023-07-15 16:20:00.0 +02:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +tags: null
  +mentions: [
    "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
    "@asbestos@lemmy.world"
    "@TheGiantKorean@lemmy.world"
    "@otterpop@lemmy.fmhy.ml"
  ]
  +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5080 …}
  +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5085 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5081 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5087 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5089 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5091 …}
  -id: 18158
  -bodyTs: "'current':7 'like':24 'm':4 'nice':1 'pcloud':6 'pretti':10 'privat':20 're':18 'thank':2 'think':16 'use':5 'well':11 'work':9 'would':23"
  +ranking: 0
  +commentCount: 0
  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://lemmy.world/comment/1302289"
  +editedAt: null
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689430800 {#5073
    date: 2023-07-15 16:20:00.0 +02:00
  }
}
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
76 DENIED moderate 
App\Entity\EntryComment {#5077
  +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#4945 …}
  +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419
    +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#1970 …}
    +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265
      +icon: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#246 …}
      +name: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +title: "asklemmy"
      +description: """
        A loosely moderated place to ask open-ended questions\n
        \n
        **[Search asklemmy](https://lemmy.ml/search?q=&type=Posts&listingType=All&communityId=8&page=1&sort=TopAll) 🔍**\n
        \n
        If your post meets the following criteria, it’s welcome here!\n
        \n
        1. Open-ended\n
        2. Not offensive: at this point, we do not have the bandwidth to moderate overtly political discussions\n
        3. **Not regarding using or support for Lemmy**: [context](https://lemmy.ml/post/1223478), find help in the list of support alternatives below\n
        4. Not ad nauseam inducing: please make sure it is a question that would be new to most members\n
        5. [An actual topic of discussion](https://lemmy.ml/post/1239589)\n
        \n
        Support alternatives:\n
        \n
        - [!lemmy_support@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/lemmy_support)\n
        - [!nostupidlemmyquestions@lemmy.dbzer0.com](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/nostupidlemmyquestions)\n
        - [!selfhosted@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/selfhosted)\n
        \n
        ~Icon~ ~by~ ~@Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de~
        """
      +rules: null
      +subscriptionsCount: 0
      +entryCount: 580
      +entryCommentCount: 15558
      +postCount: 7
      +postCommentCount: 129
      +isAdult: false
      +customCss: null
      +lastActive: DateTime @1689748304 {#275
        date: 2023-07-19 08:31:44.0 +02:00
      }
      +markedForDeletionAt: null
      +tags: null
      +moderators: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#237 …}
      +ownershipRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#233 …}
      +moderatorRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#222 …}
      +entries: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#180 …}
      +posts: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#138 …}
      +subscriptions: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#200 …}
      +bans: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#117 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#103 …}
      +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#81 …}
      +logs: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#71 …}
      +awards: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1346 …}
      +categories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1823 …}
      -id: 9
      +apId: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +apProfileId: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apPublicUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apFollowersUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy/followers"
      +apInboxUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/inbox"
      +apDomain: "lemmy.ml"
      +apPreferredUsername: "asklemmy"
      +apDiscoverable: true
      +apManuallyApprovesFollowers: null
      +privateKey: null
      +publicKey: null
      +apFetchedAt: DateTime @1689747596 {#269
        date: 2023-07-19 08:19:56.0 +02:00
      }
      +apDeletedAt: null
      +apTimeoutAt: null
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1686889707 {#271
        date: 2023-06-16 06:28:27.0 +02:00
      }
    }
    +image: null
    +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#1915 …}
    +slug: "Best-options-for-Non-Google-cloud-storage-as-of-2022"
    +title: "Best options for Non-Google cloud storage as of 2022?"
    +url: null
    +body: """
      What are Lemmy’s feelings about the best cloud storage options these days, if you really want to break into the 1-2TB range? I’m not there yet, probably not even halfway there, but I like the peace of mind of potentially having the space if I need it. And I think subscribing to something in the Netflix price range is maybe something I’m ready for.\n
      \n
      My thoughts so far:\n
      \n
      [pcloud](https://www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime) - Intriguing because you can pay for a “lifetime” plan of 2TB of storage. But it’s $350, which is a lot, and I don’t know that I love the interface or usability, and I don’t know if I trust them.\n
      \n
      [iDrive](https://www.idrive.com/pricing) - Super affordable. 5tb for “just” $80/year. It might be the best deal, but nothing about their identity suggests to me that they are “good guys.” By which I mean, I’m not sure I trust them to make long-term promises for any specific plan.\n
      \n
      [Mega](https://mega.io/pro) - I like its very anti-google, very encrypted attitude. Born from the ashes of megaupload, they built encryption and zero knowledge into it. I LOVE that you can connect to it through the android app Solid Explorer and therefore don’t even need the mega app if you don’t want it. I hear bad things about it though? And it’s pretty expensive at $115 per year for 2TB.\n
      \n
      My personal thoughts/reasoning/caveats:\n
      \n
      **Homebrew stuff**: I don’t *quite* trust myself to use a homebrew setup like Nextcloud or Syncthing correctly. There’s too much in terms of labor, upkeep, catastrophic single points of failure where you could lose everything. I feel like I’m 70% of the way to being smart enough to do this.\n
      \n
      **Avoiding the Bad Guys and the Free Stuff**: I’ve tried the free version of just about everything, from Google to Onedrive to Dropbox to Mediafire to Mega. There’s even an android app that offers 1 free terrabyte?? But I don’t want something from the bad guys where I’m going to be integrated into their closed source death drap: Google, Amazon, Microsoft, Apple, and I don’t want a too-good-to-be-true free service where I’m the product.\n
      \n
      I also would prefer to avoid something from the upstarts who kinda-sorta imitate the bad guys: Dropbox, Mediafire, Box. Because I’m not sure how much I can trust any specific long term promise from them.\n
      \n
      **It sounds like you’re saying nothing is good enough! What exactly do you want!?** Something from good guys, not bad guys. Something like [Standardnotes](https://standardnotes.com/), but for file storage. They emphasize privacy, good governance principles and longevity of their service. Or [Linode](https://www.linode.com/support-experience/), with their independence, sense of mission, love of Linux & free software, all of which tells me they are good guys.\n
      \n
      Probably the correct answer is (1) here’s this magical perfect source I never thought of, or (2) I’m thinking this much about it, I should probably do Nextcloud or syncthing given all the constraints that I’m putting out there.\n
      \n
      Anyway, that’s my thoughts on cloud storage. What are yours?
      """
    +type: "article"
    +lang: "en"
    +isOc: false
    +hasEmbed: false
    +commentCount: 25
    +favouriteCount: 41
    +score: 0
    +isAdult: false
    +sticky: false
    +lastActive: DateTime @1689719793 {#2414
      date: 2023-07-19 00:36:33.0 +02:00
    }
    +ip: null
    +adaAmount: 0
    +tags: null
    +mentions: null
    +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1884 …}
    +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1973 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1959 …}
    +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1927 …}
    +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2442 …}
    +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2440 …}
    +children: []
    -id: 1294
    -titleTs: "'2022':11 'best':1 'cloud':7 'googl':6 'non':5 'non-googl':4 'option':2 'storag':8"
    -bodyTs: "'-2':23 '/),':451 '/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':77 '/pricing)':123 '/pro)':173 '/support-experience/),':471 '1':22,337,497 '115':240 '2':509 '2tb':88,244 '350':94 '5tb':126 '70':290 '80/year':129 'afford':125 'also':387 'amazon':364 'android':208,333 'answer':495 'anti':179 'anti-googl':178 'anyway':534 'app':209,220,334 'appl':366 'ash':187 'attitud':183 'avoid':301,391 'bad':229,303,348,402,444 'best':8,134 'born':184 'box':406 'break':19 'built':191 'catastroph':275 'close':359 'cloud':9,540 'connect':203 'constraint':527 'correct':265,494 'could':282 'day':13 'deal':135 'death':361 'drap':362 'dropbox':324,404 'emphas':457 'encrypt':182,192 'enough':297,433 'even':33,216,331 'everyth':284,318 'exact':435 'expens':238 'explor':211 'failur':279 'far':73 'feel':5,286 'file':454 'free':307,313,338,379,481 'given':524 'go':353 'good':147,375,432,441,459,490 'googl':180,320,363 'govern':460 'guy':148,304,349,403,442,445,491 'halfway':34 'hear':228 'homebrew':248,259 'ident':140 'idriv':120 'imit':400 'independ':474 'integr':356 'interfac':108 'intrigu':78 'kinda':398 'kinda-sorta':397 'know':103,115 'knowledg':195 'labor':273 'lemmi':3 'lifetim':85 'like':38,175,261,287,426,447 'linod':468 'linux':480 'long':163,419 'long-term':162 'longev':463 'lose':283 'lot':98 'love':106,199,478 'm':27,67,154,289,352,383,409,511,530 'magic':501 'make':161 'mayb':64 'mean':152 'mediafir':326,405 'mega':170,219,328 'mega.io':172 'mega.io/pro)':171 'megaupload':189 'microsoft':365 'might':131 'mind':42 'mission':477 'much':269,413,514 'need':50,217 'netflix':60 'never':505 'nextcloud':262,521 'noth':137,430 'offer':336 'onedr':322 'option':11 'pay':82 'pcloud':74 'peac':40 'per':241 'perfect':502 'person':246 'plan':86,169 'point':277 'potenti':44 'prefer':389 'pretti':237 'price':61 'principl':461 'privaci':458 'probabl':31,492,519 'product':385 'promis':165,421 'put':531 'quit':253 'rang':25,62 're':428 'readi':68 'realli':16 'say':429 'sens':475 'servic':380,466 'setup':260 'singl':276 'smart':296 'softwar':482 'solid':210 'someth':57,65,345,392,439,446 'sorta':399 'sound':425 'sourc':360,503 'space':47 'specif':168,418 'standardnot':448 'standardnotes.com':450 'standardnotes.com/),':449 'storag':10,90,455,541 'stuff':249,308 'subscrib':55 'suggest':141 'super':124 'sure':156,411 'syncth':264,523 'tb':24 'tell':486 'term':164,271,420 'terrabyt':339 'therefor':213 'thing':230 'think':54,512 'though':233 'thought':71,506,538 'thoughts/reasoning/caveats':247 'too-good-to-be-tru':373 'tri':311 'true':378 'trust':118,158,254,416 'upkeep':274 'upstart':395 'usabl':110 'use':257 've':310 'version':314 'want':17,225,344,371,438 'way':293 'would':388 'www.idrive.com':122 'www.idrive.com/pricing)':121 'www.linode.com':470 'www.linode.com/support-experience/),':469 'www.pcloud.com':76 'www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':75 'year':242 'yet':30 'zero':194"
    +cross: false
    +upVotes: 0
    +downVotes: 0
    +ranking: 1642260128
    +visibility: "visible             "
    +apId: "https://lemmy.ml/post/149005"
    +editedAt: null
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1642173728 {#1793
      date: 2022-01-14 16:22:08.0 +01:00
    }
  }
  +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
  +image: null
  +parent: App\Entity\EntryComment {#5015
    +user: App\Entity\User {#4529 …}
    +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419}
    +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
    +image: null
    +parent: App\Entity\EntryComment {#4944
      +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#4945 …}
      +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419}
      +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
      +image: null
      +parent: App\Entity\EntryComment {#4664
        +user: App\Entity\User {#4677 …}
        +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419}
        +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
        +image: null
        +parent: null
        +root: null
        +body: "Proton Drive maybe?"
        +lang: "en"
        +isAdult: false
        +favouriteCount: 12
        +score: 0
        +lastActive: DateTime @1689430811 {#4659
          date: 2023-07-15 16:20:11.0 +02:00
        }
        +ip: null
        +tags: null
        +mentions: [
          "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
        ]
        +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4665 …}
        +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4667 …}
        +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4669 …}
        +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4671 …}
        +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4673 …}
        +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4675 …}
        -id: 18012
        -bodyTs: "'drive':2 'mayb':3 'proton':1"
        +ranking: 0
        +commentCount: 0
        +upVotes: 0
        +downVotes: 0
        +visibility: "visible             "
        +apId: "https://lemmy.world/comment/1299714"
        +editedAt: null
        +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689425669 {#4660
          date: 2023-07-15 14:54:29.0 +02:00
        }
      }
      +root: App\Entity\EntryComment {#4664}
      +body: "Last time I checked (which was a while ago) they were still working on implementing some basic things. Do you know if it’s improved now?"
      +lang: "en"
      +isAdult: false
      +favouriteCount: 0
      +score: 0
      +lastActive: DateTime @1689430384 {#4942
        date: 2023-07-15 16:13:04.0 +02:00
      }
      +ip: null
      +tags: null
      +mentions: [
        "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
        "@asbestos@lemmy.world"
      ]
      +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4946 …}
      +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4948 …}
      +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4950 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4952 …}
      +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4954 …}
      +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4956 …}
      -id: 18132
      -bodyTs: "'ago':9 'basic':17 'check':4 'implement':15 'improv':25 'know':21 'last':1 'still':12 'thing':18 'time':2 'work':13"
      +ranking: 0
      +commentCount: 0
      +upVotes: 0
      +downVotes: 0
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +apId: "https://lemmy.world/comment/1302083"
      +editedAt: null
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689430384 {#4943
        date: 2023-07-15 16:13:04.0 +02:00
      }
    }
    +root: App\Entity\EntryComment {#4664}
    +body: "They just released a Windows client I think so it’s definitely coming along."
    +lang: "en"
    +isAdult: false
    +favouriteCount: 6
    +score: 0
    +lastActive: DateTime @1689430636 {#5016
      date: 2023-07-15 16:17:16.0 +02:00
    }
    +ip: null
    +tags: null
    +mentions: [
      "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
      "@asbestos@lemmy.world"
      "@TheGiantKorean@lemmy.world"
    ]
    +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5010 …}
    +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5004 …}
    +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5008 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5019 …}
    +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5021 …}
    +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5023 …}
    -id: 18147
    -bodyTs: "'along':14 'client':6 'come':13 'definit':12 'releas':3 'think':8 'window':5"
    +ranking: 0
    +commentCount: 0
    +upVotes: 0
    +downVotes: 0
    +visibility: "visible             "
    +apId: "https://lemmy.fmhy.ml/comment/1073032"
    +editedAt: null
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689430636 {#5013
      date: 2023-07-15 16:17:16.0 +02:00
    }
  }
  +root: App\Entity\EntryComment {#4664}
  +body: "Nice, thanks. I’m using pCloud currently, which works pretty well, but I don’t think they’re as private as I would like."
  +lang: "en"
  +isAdult: false
  +favouriteCount: 1
  +score: 0
  +lastActive: DateTime @1689430800 {#5076
    date: 2023-07-15 16:20:00.0 +02:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +tags: null
  +mentions: [
    "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
    "@asbestos@lemmy.world"
    "@TheGiantKorean@lemmy.world"
    "@otterpop@lemmy.fmhy.ml"
  ]
  +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5080 …}
  +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5085 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5081 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5087 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5089 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5091 …}
  -id: 18158
  -bodyTs: "'current':7 'like':24 'm':4 'nice':1 'pcloud':6 'pretti':10 'privat':20 're':18 'thank':2 'think':16 'use':5 'well':11 'work':9 'would':23"
  +ranking: 0
  +commentCount: 0
  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://lemmy.world/comment/1302289"
  +editedAt: null
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689430800 {#5073
    date: 2023-07-15 16:20:00.0 +02:00
  }
}
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
77 DENIED ROLE_USER 
null
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
78 DENIED moderate 
App\Entity\EntryComment {#4739
  +user: App\Entity\User {#4752 …}
  +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419
    +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#1970 …}
    +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265
      +icon: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#246 …}
      +name: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +title: "asklemmy"
      +description: """
        A loosely moderated place to ask open-ended questions\n
        \n
        **[Search asklemmy](https://lemmy.ml/search?q=&type=Posts&listingType=All&communityId=8&page=1&sort=TopAll) 🔍**\n
        \n
        If your post meets the following criteria, it’s welcome here!\n
        \n
        1. Open-ended\n
        2. Not offensive: at this point, we do not have the bandwidth to moderate overtly political discussions\n
        3. **Not regarding using or support for Lemmy**: [context](https://lemmy.ml/post/1223478), find help in the list of support alternatives below\n
        4. Not ad nauseam inducing: please make sure it is a question that would be new to most members\n
        5. [An actual topic of discussion](https://lemmy.ml/post/1239589)\n
        \n
        Support alternatives:\n
        \n
        - [!lemmy_support@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/lemmy_support)\n
        - [!nostupidlemmyquestions@lemmy.dbzer0.com](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/nostupidlemmyquestions)\n
        - [!selfhosted@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/selfhosted)\n
        \n
        ~Icon~ ~by~ ~@Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de~
        """
      +rules: null
      +subscriptionsCount: 0
      +entryCount: 580
      +entryCommentCount: 15558
      +postCount: 7
      +postCommentCount: 129
      +isAdult: false
      +customCss: null
      +lastActive: DateTime @1689748304 {#275
        date: 2023-07-19 08:31:44.0 +02:00
      }
      +markedForDeletionAt: null
      +tags: null
      +moderators: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#237 …}
      +ownershipRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#233 …}
      +moderatorRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#222 …}
      +entries: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#180 …}
      +posts: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#138 …}
      +subscriptions: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#200 …}
      +bans: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#117 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#103 …}
      +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#81 …}
      +logs: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#71 …}
      +awards: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1346 …}
      +categories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1823 …}
      -id: 9
      +apId: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +apProfileId: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apPublicUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apFollowersUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy/followers"
      +apInboxUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/inbox"
      +apDomain: "lemmy.ml"
      +apPreferredUsername: "asklemmy"
      +apDiscoverable: true
      +apManuallyApprovesFollowers: null
      +privateKey: null
      +publicKey: null
      +apFetchedAt: DateTime @1689747596 {#269
        date: 2023-07-19 08:19:56.0 +02:00
      }
      +apDeletedAt: null
      +apTimeoutAt: null
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1686889707 {#271
        date: 2023-06-16 06:28:27.0 +02:00
      }
    }
    +image: null
    +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#1915 …}
    +slug: "Best-options-for-Non-Google-cloud-storage-as-of-2022"
    +title: "Best options for Non-Google cloud storage as of 2022?"
    +url: null
    +body: """
      What are Lemmy’s feelings about the best cloud storage options these days, if you really want to break into the 1-2TB range? I’m not there yet, probably not even halfway there, but I like the peace of mind of potentially having the space if I need it. And I think subscribing to something in the Netflix price range is maybe something I’m ready for.\n
      \n
      My thoughts so far:\n
      \n
      [pcloud](https://www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime) - Intriguing because you can pay for a “lifetime” plan of 2TB of storage. But it’s $350, which is a lot, and I don’t know that I love the interface or usability, and I don’t know if I trust them.\n
      \n
      [iDrive](https://www.idrive.com/pricing) - Super affordable. 5tb for “just” $80/year. It might be the best deal, but nothing about their identity suggests to me that they are “good guys.” By which I mean, I’m not sure I trust them to make long-term promises for any specific plan.\n
      \n
      [Mega](https://mega.io/pro) - I like its very anti-google, very encrypted attitude. Born from the ashes of megaupload, they built encryption and zero knowledge into it. I LOVE that you can connect to it through the android app Solid Explorer and therefore don’t even need the mega app if you don’t want it. I hear bad things about it though? And it’s pretty expensive at $115 per year for 2TB.\n
      \n
      My personal thoughts/reasoning/caveats:\n
      \n
      **Homebrew stuff**: I don’t *quite* trust myself to use a homebrew setup like Nextcloud or Syncthing correctly. There’s too much in terms of labor, upkeep, catastrophic single points of failure where you could lose everything. I feel like I’m 70% of the way to being smart enough to do this.\n
      \n
      **Avoiding the Bad Guys and the Free Stuff**: I’ve tried the free version of just about everything, from Google to Onedrive to Dropbox to Mediafire to Mega. There’s even an android app that offers 1 free terrabyte?? But I don’t want something from the bad guys where I’m going to be integrated into their closed source death drap: Google, Amazon, Microsoft, Apple, and I don’t want a too-good-to-be-true free service where I’m the product.\n
      \n
      I also would prefer to avoid something from the upstarts who kinda-sorta imitate the bad guys: Dropbox, Mediafire, Box. Because I’m not sure how much I can trust any specific long term promise from them.\n
      \n
      **It sounds like you’re saying nothing is good enough! What exactly do you want!?** Something from good guys, not bad guys. Something like [Standardnotes](https://standardnotes.com/), but for file storage. They emphasize privacy, good governance principles and longevity of their service. Or [Linode](https://www.linode.com/support-experience/), with their independence, sense of mission, love of Linux & free software, all of which tells me they are good guys.\n
      \n
      Probably the correct answer is (1) here’s this magical perfect source I never thought of, or (2) I’m thinking this much about it, I should probably do Nextcloud or syncthing given all the constraints that I’m putting out there.\n
      \n
      Anyway, that’s my thoughts on cloud storage. What are yours?
      """
    +type: "article"
    +lang: "en"
    +isOc: false
    +hasEmbed: false
    +commentCount: 25
    +favouriteCount: 41
    +score: 0
    +isAdult: false
    +sticky: false
    +lastActive: DateTime @1689719793 {#2414
      date: 2023-07-19 00:36:33.0 +02:00
    }
    +ip: null
    +adaAmount: 0
    +tags: null
    +mentions: null
    +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1884 …}
    +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1973 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1959 …}
    +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1927 …}
    +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2442 …}
    +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2440 …}
    +children: []
    -id: 1294
    -titleTs: "'2022':11 'best':1 'cloud':7 'googl':6 'non':5 'non-googl':4 'option':2 'storag':8"
    -bodyTs: "'-2':23 '/),':451 '/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':77 '/pricing)':123 '/pro)':173 '/support-experience/),':471 '1':22,337,497 '115':240 '2':509 '2tb':88,244 '350':94 '5tb':126 '70':290 '80/year':129 'afford':125 'also':387 'amazon':364 'android':208,333 'answer':495 'anti':179 'anti-googl':178 'anyway':534 'app':209,220,334 'appl':366 'ash':187 'attitud':183 'avoid':301,391 'bad':229,303,348,402,444 'best':8,134 'born':184 'box':406 'break':19 'built':191 'catastroph':275 'close':359 'cloud':9,540 'connect':203 'constraint':527 'correct':265,494 'could':282 'day':13 'deal':135 'death':361 'drap':362 'dropbox':324,404 'emphas':457 'encrypt':182,192 'enough':297,433 'even':33,216,331 'everyth':284,318 'exact':435 'expens':238 'explor':211 'failur':279 'far':73 'feel':5,286 'file':454 'free':307,313,338,379,481 'given':524 'go':353 'good':147,375,432,441,459,490 'googl':180,320,363 'govern':460 'guy':148,304,349,403,442,445,491 'halfway':34 'hear':228 'homebrew':248,259 'ident':140 'idriv':120 'imit':400 'independ':474 'integr':356 'interfac':108 'intrigu':78 'kinda':398 'kinda-sorta':397 'know':103,115 'knowledg':195 'labor':273 'lemmi':3 'lifetim':85 'like':38,175,261,287,426,447 'linod':468 'linux':480 'long':163,419 'long-term':162 'longev':463 'lose':283 'lot':98 'love':106,199,478 'm':27,67,154,289,352,383,409,511,530 'magic':501 'make':161 'mayb':64 'mean':152 'mediafir':326,405 'mega':170,219,328 'mega.io':172 'mega.io/pro)':171 'megaupload':189 'microsoft':365 'might':131 'mind':42 'mission':477 'much':269,413,514 'need':50,217 'netflix':60 'never':505 'nextcloud':262,521 'noth':137,430 'offer':336 'onedr':322 'option':11 'pay':82 'pcloud':74 'peac':40 'per':241 'perfect':502 'person':246 'plan':86,169 'point':277 'potenti':44 'prefer':389 'pretti':237 'price':61 'principl':461 'privaci':458 'probabl':31,492,519 'product':385 'promis':165,421 'put':531 'quit':253 'rang':25,62 're':428 'readi':68 'realli':16 'say':429 'sens':475 'servic':380,466 'setup':260 'singl':276 'smart':296 'softwar':482 'solid':210 'someth':57,65,345,392,439,446 'sorta':399 'sound':425 'sourc':360,503 'space':47 'specif':168,418 'standardnot':448 'standardnotes.com':450 'standardnotes.com/),':449 'storag':10,90,455,541 'stuff':249,308 'subscrib':55 'suggest':141 'super':124 'sure':156,411 'syncth':264,523 'tb':24 'tell':486 'term':164,271,420 'terrabyt':339 'therefor':213 'thing':230 'think':54,512 'though':233 'thought':71,506,538 'thoughts/reasoning/caveats':247 'too-good-to-be-tru':373 'tri':311 'true':378 'trust':118,158,254,416 'upkeep':274 'upstart':395 'usabl':110 'use':257 've':310 'version':314 'want':17,225,344,371,438 'way':293 'would':388 'www.idrive.com':122 'www.idrive.com/pricing)':121 'www.linode.com':470 'www.linode.com/support-experience/),':469 'www.pcloud.com':76 'www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':75 'year':242 'yet':30 'zero':194"
    +cross: false
    +upVotes: 0
    +downVotes: 0
    +ranking: 1642260128
    +visibility: "visible             "
    +apId: "https://lemmy.ml/post/149005"
    +editedAt: null
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1642173728 {#1793
      date: 2022-01-14 16:22:08.0 +01:00
    }
  }
  +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
  +image: null
  +parent: null
  +root: null
  +body: "One thing to keep in mind with something like Syncthing is where the physical location of the other machine(s) is. The nice thing about cloud storage is that your data is in an entirely different geographic region, so if there’s a hurricane, flood, fire, etc. your data is still safe. That being said, I use Google drive at the moment so I’ll also be keeping an eye on this post for alternatives."
  +lang: "en"
  +isAdult: false
  +favouriteCount: 14
  +score: 0
  +lastActive: DateTime @1689702185 {#4734
    date: 2023-07-18 19:43:05.0 +02:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +tags: null
  +mentions: [
    "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
  ]
  +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4740 …}
  +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4742 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4744 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4746 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4748 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4750 …}
  -id: 17989
  -bodyTs: "'also':66 'altern':75 'cloud':26 'data':31,49 'differ':36 'drive':59 'entir':35 'etc':47 'eye':70 'fire':46 'flood':45 'geograph':37 'googl':58 'hurrican':44 'keep':4,68 'like':9 'll':65 'locat':15 'machin':19 'mind':6 'moment':62 'nice':23 'one':1 'physic':14 'post':73 'region':38 'safe':52 'said':55 'someth':8 'still':51 'storag':27 'syncth':10 'thing':2,24 'use':57"
  +ranking: 0
  +commentCount: 0
  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://lemmy.world/comment/1299422"
  +editedAt: null
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689424997 {#4735
    date: 2023-07-15 14:43:17.0 +02:00
  }
}
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
79 DENIED edit 
App\Entity\EntryComment {#4739
  +user: App\Entity\User {#4752 …}
  +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419
    +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#1970 …}
    +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265
      +icon: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#246 …}
      +name: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +title: "asklemmy"
      +description: """
        A loosely moderated place to ask open-ended questions\n
        \n
        **[Search asklemmy](https://lemmy.ml/search?q=&type=Posts&listingType=All&communityId=8&page=1&sort=TopAll) 🔍**\n
        \n
        If your post meets the following criteria, it’s welcome here!\n
        \n
        1. Open-ended\n
        2. Not offensive: at this point, we do not have the bandwidth to moderate overtly political discussions\n
        3. **Not regarding using or support for Lemmy**: [context](https://lemmy.ml/post/1223478), find help in the list of support alternatives below\n
        4. Not ad nauseam inducing: please make sure it is a question that would be new to most members\n
        5. [An actual topic of discussion](https://lemmy.ml/post/1239589)\n
        \n
        Support alternatives:\n
        \n
        - [!lemmy_support@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/lemmy_support)\n
        - [!nostupidlemmyquestions@lemmy.dbzer0.com](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/nostupidlemmyquestions)\n
        - [!selfhosted@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/selfhosted)\n
        \n
        ~Icon~ ~by~ ~@Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de~
        """
      +rules: null
      +subscriptionsCount: 0
      +entryCount: 580
      +entryCommentCount: 15558
      +postCount: 7
      +postCommentCount: 129
      +isAdult: false
      +customCss: null
      +lastActive: DateTime @1689748304 {#275
        date: 2023-07-19 08:31:44.0 +02:00
      }
      +markedForDeletionAt: null
      +tags: null
      +moderators: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#237 …}
      +ownershipRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#233 …}
      +moderatorRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#222 …}
      +entries: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#180 …}
      +posts: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#138 …}
      +subscriptions: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#200 …}
      +bans: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#117 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#103 …}
      +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#81 …}
      +logs: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#71 …}
      +awards: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1346 …}
      +categories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1823 …}
      -id: 9
      +apId: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +apProfileId: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apPublicUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apFollowersUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy/followers"
      +apInboxUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/inbox"
      +apDomain: "lemmy.ml"
      +apPreferredUsername: "asklemmy"
      +apDiscoverable: true
      +apManuallyApprovesFollowers: null
      +privateKey: null
      +publicKey: null
      +apFetchedAt: DateTime @1689747596 {#269
        date: 2023-07-19 08:19:56.0 +02:00
      }
      +apDeletedAt: null
      +apTimeoutAt: null
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1686889707 {#271
        date: 2023-06-16 06:28:27.0 +02:00
      }
    }
    +image: null
    +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#1915 …}
    +slug: "Best-options-for-Non-Google-cloud-storage-as-of-2022"
    +title: "Best options for Non-Google cloud storage as of 2022?"
    +url: null
    +body: """
      What are Lemmy’s feelings about the best cloud storage options these days, if you really want to break into the 1-2TB range? I’m not there yet, probably not even halfway there, but I like the peace of mind of potentially having the space if I need it. And I think subscribing to something in the Netflix price range is maybe something I’m ready for.\n
      \n
      My thoughts so far:\n
      \n
      [pcloud](https://www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime) - Intriguing because you can pay for a “lifetime” plan of 2TB of storage. But it’s $350, which is a lot, and I don’t know that I love the interface or usability, and I don’t know if I trust them.\n
      \n
      [iDrive](https://www.idrive.com/pricing) - Super affordable. 5tb for “just” $80/year. It might be the best deal, but nothing about their identity suggests to me that they are “good guys.” By which I mean, I’m not sure I trust them to make long-term promises for any specific plan.\n
      \n
      [Mega](https://mega.io/pro) - I like its very anti-google, very encrypted attitude. Born from the ashes of megaupload, they built encryption and zero knowledge into it. I LOVE that you can connect to it through the android app Solid Explorer and therefore don’t even need the mega app if you don’t want it. I hear bad things about it though? And it’s pretty expensive at $115 per year for 2TB.\n
      \n
      My personal thoughts/reasoning/caveats:\n
      \n
      **Homebrew stuff**: I don’t *quite* trust myself to use a homebrew setup like Nextcloud or Syncthing correctly. There’s too much in terms of labor, upkeep, catastrophic single points of failure where you could lose everything. I feel like I’m 70% of the way to being smart enough to do this.\n
      \n
      **Avoiding the Bad Guys and the Free Stuff**: I’ve tried the free version of just about everything, from Google to Onedrive to Dropbox to Mediafire to Mega. There’s even an android app that offers 1 free terrabyte?? But I don’t want something from the bad guys where I’m going to be integrated into their closed source death drap: Google, Amazon, Microsoft, Apple, and I don’t want a too-good-to-be-true free service where I’m the product.\n
      \n
      I also would prefer to avoid something from the upstarts who kinda-sorta imitate the bad guys: Dropbox, Mediafire, Box. Because I’m not sure how much I can trust any specific long term promise from them.\n
      \n
      **It sounds like you’re saying nothing is good enough! What exactly do you want!?** Something from good guys, not bad guys. Something like [Standardnotes](https://standardnotes.com/), but for file storage. They emphasize privacy, good governance principles and longevity of their service. Or [Linode](https://www.linode.com/support-experience/), with their independence, sense of mission, love of Linux & free software, all of which tells me they are good guys.\n
      \n
      Probably the correct answer is (1) here’s this magical perfect source I never thought of, or (2) I’m thinking this much about it, I should probably do Nextcloud or syncthing given all the constraints that I’m putting out there.\n
      \n
      Anyway, that’s my thoughts on cloud storage. What are yours?
      """
    +type: "article"
    +lang: "en"
    +isOc: false
    +hasEmbed: false
    +commentCount: 25
    +favouriteCount: 41
    +score: 0
    +isAdult: false
    +sticky: false
    +lastActive: DateTime @1689719793 {#2414
      date: 2023-07-19 00:36:33.0 +02:00
    }
    +ip: null
    +adaAmount: 0
    +tags: null
    +mentions: null
    +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1884 …}
    +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1973 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1959 …}
    +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1927 …}
    +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2442 …}
    +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2440 …}
    +children: []
    -id: 1294
    -titleTs: "'2022':11 'best':1 'cloud':7 'googl':6 'non':5 'non-googl':4 'option':2 'storag':8"
    -bodyTs: "'-2':23 '/),':451 '/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':77 '/pricing)':123 '/pro)':173 '/support-experience/),':471 '1':22,337,497 '115':240 '2':509 '2tb':88,244 '350':94 '5tb':126 '70':290 '80/year':129 'afford':125 'also':387 'amazon':364 'android':208,333 'answer':495 'anti':179 'anti-googl':178 'anyway':534 'app':209,220,334 'appl':366 'ash':187 'attitud':183 'avoid':301,391 'bad':229,303,348,402,444 'best':8,134 'born':184 'box':406 'break':19 'built':191 'catastroph':275 'close':359 'cloud':9,540 'connect':203 'constraint':527 'correct':265,494 'could':282 'day':13 'deal':135 'death':361 'drap':362 'dropbox':324,404 'emphas':457 'encrypt':182,192 'enough':297,433 'even':33,216,331 'everyth':284,318 'exact':435 'expens':238 'explor':211 'failur':279 'far':73 'feel':5,286 'file':454 'free':307,313,338,379,481 'given':524 'go':353 'good':147,375,432,441,459,490 'googl':180,320,363 'govern':460 'guy':148,304,349,403,442,445,491 'halfway':34 'hear':228 'homebrew':248,259 'ident':140 'idriv':120 'imit':400 'independ':474 'integr':356 'interfac':108 'intrigu':78 'kinda':398 'kinda-sorta':397 'know':103,115 'knowledg':195 'labor':273 'lemmi':3 'lifetim':85 'like':38,175,261,287,426,447 'linod':468 'linux':480 'long':163,419 'long-term':162 'longev':463 'lose':283 'lot':98 'love':106,199,478 'm':27,67,154,289,352,383,409,511,530 'magic':501 'make':161 'mayb':64 'mean':152 'mediafir':326,405 'mega':170,219,328 'mega.io':172 'mega.io/pro)':171 'megaupload':189 'microsoft':365 'might':131 'mind':42 'mission':477 'much':269,413,514 'need':50,217 'netflix':60 'never':505 'nextcloud':262,521 'noth':137,430 'offer':336 'onedr':322 'option':11 'pay':82 'pcloud':74 'peac':40 'per':241 'perfect':502 'person':246 'plan':86,169 'point':277 'potenti':44 'prefer':389 'pretti':237 'price':61 'principl':461 'privaci':458 'probabl':31,492,519 'product':385 'promis':165,421 'put':531 'quit':253 'rang':25,62 're':428 'readi':68 'realli':16 'say':429 'sens':475 'servic':380,466 'setup':260 'singl':276 'smart':296 'softwar':482 'solid':210 'someth':57,65,345,392,439,446 'sorta':399 'sound':425 'sourc':360,503 'space':47 'specif':168,418 'standardnot':448 'standardnotes.com':450 'standardnotes.com/),':449 'storag':10,90,455,541 'stuff':249,308 'subscrib':55 'suggest':141 'super':124 'sure':156,411 'syncth':264,523 'tb':24 'tell':486 'term':164,271,420 'terrabyt':339 'therefor':213 'thing':230 'think':54,512 'though':233 'thought':71,506,538 'thoughts/reasoning/caveats':247 'too-good-to-be-tru':373 'tri':311 'true':378 'trust':118,158,254,416 'upkeep':274 'upstart':395 'usabl':110 'use':257 've':310 'version':314 'want':17,225,344,371,438 'way':293 'would':388 'www.idrive.com':122 'www.idrive.com/pricing)':121 'www.linode.com':470 'www.linode.com/support-experience/),':469 'www.pcloud.com':76 'www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':75 'year':242 'yet':30 'zero':194"
    +cross: false
    +upVotes: 0
    +downVotes: 0
    +ranking: 1642260128
    +visibility: "visible             "
    +apId: "https://lemmy.ml/post/149005"
    +editedAt: null
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1642173728 {#1793
      date: 2022-01-14 16:22:08.0 +01:00
    }
  }
  +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
  +image: null
  +parent: null
  +root: null
  +body: "One thing to keep in mind with something like Syncthing is where the physical location of the other machine(s) is. The nice thing about cloud storage is that your data is in an entirely different geographic region, so if there’s a hurricane, flood, fire, etc. your data is still safe. That being said, I use Google drive at the moment so I’ll also be keeping an eye on this post for alternatives."
  +lang: "en"
  +isAdult: false
  +favouriteCount: 14
  +score: 0
  +lastActive: DateTime @1689702185 {#4734
    date: 2023-07-18 19:43:05.0 +02:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +tags: null
  +mentions: [
    "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
  ]
  +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4740 …}
  +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4742 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4744 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4746 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4748 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4750 …}
  -id: 17989
  -bodyTs: "'also':66 'altern':75 'cloud':26 'data':31,49 'differ':36 'drive':59 'entir':35 'etc':47 'eye':70 'fire':46 'flood':45 'geograph':37 'googl':58 'hurrican':44 'keep':4,68 'like':9 'll':65 'locat':15 'machin':19 'mind':6 'moment':62 'nice':23 'one':1 'physic':14 'post':73 'region':38 'safe':52 'said':55 'someth':8 'still':51 'storag':27 'syncth':10 'thing':2,24 'use':57"
  +ranking: 0
  +commentCount: 0
  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://lemmy.world/comment/1299422"
  +editedAt: null
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689424997 {#4735
    date: 2023-07-15 14:43:17.0 +02:00
  }
}
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
80 DENIED moderate 
App\Entity\EntryComment {#4739
  +user: App\Entity\User {#4752 …}
  +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419
    +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#1970 …}
    +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265
      +icon: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#246 …}
      +name: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +title: "asklemmy"
      +description: """
        A loosely moderated place to ask open-ended questions\n
        \n
        **[Search asklemmy](https://lemmy.ml/search?q=&type=Posts&listingType=All&communityId=8&page=1&sort=TopAll) 🔍**\n
        \n
        If your post meets the following criteria, it’s welcome here!\n
        \n
        1. Open-ended\n
        2. Not offensive: at this point, we do not have the bandwidth to moderate overtly political discussions\n
        3. **Not regarding using or support for Lemmy**: [context](https://lemmy.ml/post/1223478), find help in the list of support alternatives below\n
        4. Not ad nauseam inducing: please make sure it is a question that would be new to most members\n
        5. [An actual topic of discussion](https://lemmy.ml/post/1239589)\n
        \n
        Support alternatives:\n
        \n
        - [!lemmy_support@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/lemmy_support)\n
        - [!nostupidlemmyquestions@lemmy.dbzer0.com](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/nostupidlemmyquestions)\n
        - [!selfhosted@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/selfhosted)\n
        \n
        ~Icon~ ~by~ ~@Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de~
        """
      +rules: null
      +subscriptionsCount: 0
      +entryCount: 580
      +entryCommentCount: 15558
      +postCount: 7
      +postCommentCount: 129
      +isAdult: false
      +customCss: null
      +lastActive: DateTime @1689748304 {#275
        date: 2023-07-19 08:31:44.0 +02:00
      }
      +markedForDeletionAt: null
      +tags: null
      +moderators: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#237 …}
      +ownershipRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#233 …}
      +moderatorRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#222 …}
      +entries: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#180 …}
      +posts: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#138 …}
      +subscriptions: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#200 …}
      +bans: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#117 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#103 …}
      +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#81 …}
      +logs: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#71 …}
      +awards: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1346 …}
      +categories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1823 …}
      -id: 9
      +apId: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +apProfileId: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apPublicUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apFollowersUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy/followers"
      +apInboxUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/inbox"
      +apDomain: "lemmy.ml"
      +apPreferredUsername: "asklemmy"
      +apDiscoverable: true
      +apManuallyApprovesFollowers: null
      +privateKey: null
      +publicKey: null
      +apFetchedAt: DateTime @1689747596 {#269
        date: 2023-07-19 08:19:56.0 +02:00
      }
      +apDeletedAt: null
      +apTimeoutAt: null
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1686889707 {#271
        date: 2023-06-16 06:28:27.0 +02:00
      }
    }
    +image: null
    +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#1915 …}
    +slug: "Best-options-for-Non-Google-cloud-storage-as-of-2022"
    +title: "Best options for Non-Google cloud storage as of 2022?"
    +url: null
    +body: """
      What are Lemmy’s feelings about the best cloud storage options these days, if you really want to break into the 1-2TB range? I’m not there yet, probably not even halfway there, but I like the peace of mind of potentially having the space if I need it. And I think subscribing to something in the Netflix price range is maybe something I’m ready for.\n
      \n
      My thoughts so far:\n
      \n
      [pcloud](https://www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime) - Intriguing because you can pay for a “lifetime” plan of 2TB of storage. But it’s $350, which is a lot, and I don’t know that I love the interface or usability, and I don’t know if I trust them.\n
      \n
      [iDrive](https://www.idrive.com/pricing) - Super affordable. 5tb for “just” $80/year. It might be the best deal, but nothing about their identity suggests to me that they are “good guys.” By which I mean, I’m not sure I trust them to make long-term promises for any specific plan.\n
      \n
      [Mega](https://mega.io/pro) - I like its very anti-google, very encrypted attitude. Born from the ashes of megaupload, they built encryption and zero knowledge into it. I LOVE that you can connect to it through the android app Solid Explorer and therefore don’t even need the mega app if you don’t want it. I hear bad things about it though? And it’s pretty expensive at $115 per year for 2TB.\n
      \n
      My personal thoughts/reasoning/caveats:\n
      \n
      **Homebrew stuff**: I don’t *quite* trust myself to use a homebrew setup like Nextcloud or Syncthing correctly. There’s too much in terms of labor, upkeep, catastrophic single points of failure where you could lose everything. I feel like I’m 70% of the way to being smart enough to do this.\n
      \n
      **Avoiding the Bad Guys and the Free Stuff**: I’ve tried the free version of just about everything, from Google to Onedrive to Dropbox to Mediafire to Mega. There’s even an android app that offers 1 free terrabyte?? But I don’t want something from the bad guys where I’m going to be integrated into their closed source death drap: Google, Amazon, Microsoft, Apple, and I don’t want a too-good-to-be-true free service where I’m the product.\n
      \n
      I also would prefer to avoid something from the upstarts who kinda-sorta imitate the bad guys: Dropbox, Mediafire, Box. Because I’m not sure how much I can trust any specific long term promise from them.\n
      \n
      **It sounds like you’re saying nothing is good enough! What exactly do you want!?** Something from good guys, not bad guys. Something like [Standardnotes](https://standardnotes.com/), but for file storage. They emphasize privacy, good governance principles and longevity of their service. Or [Linode](https://www.linode.com/support-experience/), with their independence, sense of mission, love of Linux & free software, all of which tells me they are good guys.\n
      \n
      Probably the correct answer is (1) here’s this magical perfect source I never thought of, or (2) I’m thinking this much about it, I should probably do Nextcloud or syncthing given all the constraints that I’m putting out there.\n
      \n
      Anyway, that’s my thoughts on cloud storage. What are yours?
      """
    +type: "article"
    +lang: "en"
    +isOc: false
    +hasEmbed: false
    +commentCount: 25
    +favouriteCount: 41
    +score: 0
    +isAdult: false
    +sticky: false
    +lastActive: DateTime @1689719793 {#2414
      date: 2023-07-19 00:36:33.0 +02:00
    }
    +ip: null
    +adaAmount: 0
    +tags: null
    +mentions: null
    +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1884 …}
    +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1973 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1959 …}
    +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1927 …}
    +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2442 …}
    +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2440 …}
    +children: []
    -id: 1294
    -titleTs: "'2022':11 'best':1 'cloud':7 'googl':6 'non':5 'non-googl':4 'option':2 'storag':8"
    -bodyTs: "'-2':23 '/),':451 '/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':77 '/pricing)':123 '/pro)':173 '/support-experience/),':471 '1':22,337,497 '115':240 '2':509 '2tb':88,244 '350':94 '5tb':126 '70':290 '80/year':129 'afford':125 'also':387 'amazon':364 'android':208,333 'answer':495 'anti':179 'anti-googl':178 'anyway':534 'app':209,220,334 'appl':366 'ash':187 'attitud':183 'avoid':301,391 'bad':229,303,348,402,444 'best':8,134 'born':184 'box':406 'break':19 'built':191 'catastroph':275 'close':359 'cloud':9,540 'connect':203 'constraint':527 'correct':265,494 'could':282 'day':13 'deal':135 'death':361 'drap':362 'dropbox':324,404 'emphas':457 'encrypt':182,192 'enough':297,433 'even':33,216,331 'everyth':284,318 'exact':435 'expens':238 'explor':211 'failur':279 'far':73 'feel':5,286 'file':454 'free':307,313,338,379,481 'given':524 'go':353 'good':147,375,432,441,459,490 'googl':180,320,363 'govern':460 'guy':148,304,349,403,442,445,491 'halfway':34 'hear':228 'homebrew':248,259 'ident':140 'idriv':120 'imit':400 'independ':474 'integr':356 'interfac':108 'intrigu':78 'kinda':398 'kinda-sorta':397 'know':103,115 'knowledg':195 'labor':273 'lemmi':3 'lifetim':85 'like':38,175,261,287,426,447 'linod':468 'linux':480 'long':163,419 'long-term':162 'longev':463 'lose':283 'lot':98 'love':106,199,478 'm':27,67,154,289,352,383,409,511,530 'magic':501 'make':161 'mayb':64 'mean':152 'mediafir':326,405 'mega':170,219,328 'mega.io':172 'mega.io/pro)':171 'megaupload':189 'microsoft':365 'might':131 'mind':42 'mission':477 'much':269,413,514 'need':50,217 'netflix':60 'never':505 'nextcloud':262,521 'noth':137,430 'offer':336 'onedr':322 'option':11 'pay':82 'pcloud':74 'peac':40 'per':241 'perfect':502 'person':246 'plan':86,169 'point':277 'potenti':44 'prefer':389 'pretti':237 'price':61 'principl':461 'privaci':458 'probabl':31,492,519 'product':385 'promis':165,421 'put':531 'quit':253 'rang':25,62 're':428 'readi':68 'realli':16 'say':429 'sens':475 'servic':380,466 'setup':260 'singl':276 'smart':296 'softwar':482 'solid':210 'someth':57,65,345,392,439,446 'sorta':399 'sound':425 'sourc':360,503 'space':47 'specif':168,418 'standardnot':448 'standardnotes.com':450 'standardnotes.com/),':449 'storag':10,90,455,541 'stuff':249,308 'subscrib':55 'suggest':141 'super':124 'sure':156,411 'syncth':264,523 'tb':24 'tell':486 'term':164,271,420 'terrabyt':339 'therefor':213 'thing':230 'think':54,512 'though':233 'thought':71,506,538 'thoughts/reasoning/caveats':247 'too-good-to-be-tru':373 'tri':311 'true':378 'trust':118,158,254,416 'upkeep':274 'upstart':395 'usabl':110 'use':257 've':310 'version':314 'want':17,225,344,371,438 'way':293 'would':388 'www.idrive.com':122 'www.idrive.com/pricing)':121 'www.linode.com':470 'www.linode.com/support-experience/),':469 'www.pcloud.com':76 'www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':75 'year':242 'yet':30 'zero':194"
    +cross: false
    +upVotes: 0
    +downVotes: 0
    +ranking: 1642260128
    +visibility: "visible             "
    +apId: "https://lemmy.ml/post/149005"
    +editedAt: null
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1642173728 {#1793
      date: 2022-01-14 16:22:08.0 +01:00
    }
  }
  +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
  +image: null
  +parent: null
  +root: null
  +body: "One thing to keep in mind with something like Syncthing is where the physical location of the other machine(s) is. The nice thing about cloud storage is that your data is in an entirely different geographic region, so if there’s a hurricane, flood, fire, etc. your data is still safe. That being said, I use Google drive at the moment so I’ll also be keeping an eye on this post for alternatives."
  +lang: "en"
  +isAdult: false
  +favouriteCount: 14
  +score: 0
  +lastActive: DateTime @1689702185 {#4734
    date: 2023-07-18 19:43:05.0 +02:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +tags: null
  +mentions: [
    "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
  ]
  +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4740 …}
  +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4742 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4744 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4746 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4748 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4750 …}
  -id: 17989
  -bodyTs: "'also':66 'altern':75 'cloud':26 'data':31,49 'differ':36 'drive':59 'entir':35 'etc':47 'eye':70 'fire':46 'flood':45 'geograph':37 'googl':58 'hurrican':44 'keep':4,68 'like':9 'll':65 'locat':15 'machin':19 'mind':6 'moment':62 'nice':23 'one':1 'physic':14 'post':73 'region':38 'safe':52 'said':55 'someth':8 'still':51 'storag':27 'syncth':10 'thing':2,24 'use':57"
  +ranking: 0
  +commentCount: 0
  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://lemmy.world/comment/1299422"
  +editedAt: null
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689424997 {#4735
    date: 2023-07-15 14:43:17.0 +02:00
  }
}
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
81 DENIED ROLE_USER 
null
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
82 DENIED moderate 
App\Entity\EntryComment {#4912
  +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#4913 …}
  +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419
    +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#1970 …}
    +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265
      +icon: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#246 …}
      +name: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +title: "asklemmy"
      +description: """
        A loosely moderated place to ask open-ended questions\n
        \n
        **[Search asklemmy](https://lemmy.ml/search?q=&type=Posts&listingType=All&communityId=8&page=1&sort=TopAll) 🔍**\n
        \n
        If your post meets the following criteria, it’s welcome here!\n
        \n
        1. Open-ended\n
        2. Not offensive: at this point, we do not have the bandwidth to moderate overtly political discussions\n
        3. **Not regarding using or support for Lemmy**: [context](https://lemmy.ml/post/1223478), find help in the list of support alternatives below\n
        4. Not ad nauseam inducing: please make sure it is a question that would be new to most members\n
        5. [An actual topic of discussion](https://lemmy.ml/post/1239589)\n
        \n
        Support alternatives:\n
        \n
        - [!lemmy_support@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/lemmy_support)\n
        - [!nostupidlemmyquestions@lemmy.dbzer0.com](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/nostupidlemmyquestions)\n
        - [!selfhosted@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/selfhosted)\n
        \n
        ~Icon~ ~by~ ~@Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de~
        """
      +rules: null
      +subscriptionsCount: 0
      +entryCount: 580
      +entryCommentCount: 15558
      +postCount: 7
      +postCommentCount: 129
      +isAdult: false
      +customCss: null
      +lastActive: DateTime @1689748304 {#275
        date: 2023-07-19 08:31:44.0 +02:00
      }
      +markedForDeletionAt: null
      +tags: null
      +moderators: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#237 …}
      +ownershipRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#233 …}
      +moderatorRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#222 …}
      +entries: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#180 …}
      +posts: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#138 …}
      +subscriptions: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#200 …}
      +bans: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#117 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#103 …}
      +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#81 …}
      +logs: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#71 …}
      +awards: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1346 …}
      +categories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1823 …}
      -id: 9
      +apId: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +apProfileId: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apPublicUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apFollowersUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy/followers"
      +apInboxUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/inbox"
      +apDomain: "lemmy.ml"
      +apPreferredUsername: "asklemmy"
      +apDiscoverable: true
      +apManuallyApprovesFollowers: null
      +privateKey: null
      +publicKey: null
      +apFetchedAt: DateTime @1689747596 {#269
        date: 2023-07-19 08:19:56.0 +02:00
      }
      +apDeletedAt: null
      +apTimeoutAt: null
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1686889707 {#271
        date: 2023-06-16 06:28:27.0 +02:00
      }
    }
    +image: null
    +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#1915 …}
    +slug: "Best-options-for-Non-Google-cloud-storage-as-of-2022"
    +title: "Best options for Non-Google cloud storage as of 2022?"
    +url: null
    +body: """
      What are Lemmy’s feelings about the best cloud storage options these days, if you really want to break into the 1-2TB range? I’m not there yet, probably not even halfway there, but I like the peace of mind of potentially having the space if I need it. And I think subscribing to something in the Netflix price range is maybe something I’m ready for.\n
      \n
      My thoughts so far:\n
      \n
      [pcloud](https://www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime) - Intriguing because you can pay for a “lifetime” plan of 2TB of storage. But it’s $350, which is a lot, and I don’t know that I love the interface or usability, and I don’t know if I trust them.\n
      \n
      [iDrive](https://www.idrive.com/pricing) - Super affordable. 5tb for “just” $80/year. It might be the best deal, but nothing about their identity suggests to me that they are “good guys.” By which I mean, I’m not sure I trust them to make long-term promises for any specific plan.\n
      \n
      [Mega](https://mega.io/pro) - I like its very anti-google, very encrypted attitude. Born from the ashes of megaupload, they built encryption and zero knowledge into it. I LOVE that you can connect to it through the android app Solid Explorer and therefore don’t even need the mega app if you don’t want it. I hear bad things about it though? And it’s pretty expensive at $115 per year for 2TB.\n
      \n
      My personal thoughts/reasoning/caveats:\n
      \n
      **Homebrew stuff**: I don’t *quite* trust myself to use a homebrew setup like Nextcloud or Syncthing correctly. There’s too much in terms of labor, upkeep, catastrophic single points of failure where you could lose everything. I feel like I’m 70% of the way to being smart enough to do this.\n
      \n
      **Avoiding the Bad Guys and the Free Stuff**: I’ve tried the free version of just about everything, from Google to Onedrive to Dropbox to Mediafire to Mega. There’s even an android app that offers 1 free terrabyte?? But I don’t want something from the bad guys where I’m going to be integrated into their closed source death drap: Google, Amazon, Microsoft, Apple, and I don’t want a too-good-to-be-true free service where I’m the product.\n
      \n
      I also would prefer to avoid something from the upstarts who kinda-sorta imitate the bad guys: Dropbox, Mediafire, Box. Because I’m not sure how much I can trust any specific long term promise from them.\n
      \n
      **It sounds like you’re saying nothing is good enough! What exactly do you want!?** Something from good guys, not bad guys. Something like [Standardnotes](https://standardnotes.com/), but for file storage. They emphasize privacy, good governance principles and longevity of their service. Or [Linode](https://www.linode.com/support-experience/), with their independence, sense of mission, love of Linux & free software, all of which tells me they are good guys.\n
      \n
      Probably the correct answer is (1) here’s this magical perfect source I never thought of, or (2) I’m thinking this much about it, I should probably do Nextcloud or syncthing given all the constraints that I’m putting out there.\n
      \n
      Anyway, that’s my thoughts on cloud storage. What are yours?
      """
    +type: "article"
    +lang: "en"
    +isOc: false
    +hasEmbed: false
    +commentCount: 25
    +favouriteCount: 41
    +score: 0
    +isAdult: false
    +sticky: false
    +lastActive: DateTime @1689719793 {#2414
      date: 2023-07-19 00:36:33.0 +02:00
    }
    +ip: null
    +adaAmount: 0
    +tags: null
    +mentions: null
    +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1884 …}
    +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1973 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1959 …}
    +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1927 …}
    +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2442 …}
    +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2440 …}
    +children: []
    -id: 1294
    -titleTs: "'2022':11 'best':1 'cloud':7 'googl':6 'non':5 'non-googl':4 'option':2 'storag':8"
    -bodyTs: "'-2':23 '/),':451 '/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':77 '/pricing)':123 '/pro)':173 '/support-experience/),':471 '1':22,337,497 '115':240 '2':509 '2tb':88,244 '350':94 '5tb':126 '70':290 '80/year':129 'afford':125 'also':387 'amazon':364 'android':208,333 'answer':495 'anti':179 'anti-googl':178 'anyway':534 'app':209,220,334 'appl':366 'ash':187 'attitud':183 'avoid':301,391 'bad':229,303,348,402,444 'best':8,134 'born':184 'box':406 'break':19 'built':191 'catastroph':275 'close':359 'cloud':9,540 'connect':203 'constraint':527 'correct':265,494 'could':282 'day':13 'deal':135 'death':361 'drap':362 'dropbox':324,404 'emphas':457 'encrypt':182,192 'enough':297,433 'even':33,216,331 'everyth':284,318 'exact':435 'expens':238 'explor':211 'failur':279 'far':73 'feel':5,286 'file':454 'free':307,313,338,379,481 'given':524 'go':353 'good':147,375,432,441,459,490 'googl':180,320,363 'govern':460 'guy':148,304,349,403,442,445,491 'halfway':34 'hear':228 'homebrew':248,259 'ident':140 'idriv':120 'imit':400 'independ':474 'integr':356 'interfac':108 'intrigu':78 'kinda':398 'kinda-sorta':397 'know':103,115 'knowledg':195 'labor':273 'lemmi':3 'lifetim':85 'like':38,175,261,287,426,447 'linod':468 'linux':480 'long':163,419 'long-term':162 'longev':463 'lose':283 'lot':98 'love':106,199,478 'm':27,67,154,289,352,383,409,511,530 'magic':501 'make':161 'mayb':64 'mean':152 'mediafir':326,405 'mega':170,219,328 'mega.io':172 'mega.io/pro)':171 'megaupload':189 'microsoft':365 'might':131 'mind':42 'mission':477 'much':269,413,514 'need':50,217 'netflix':60 'never':505 'nextcloud':262,521 'noth':137,430 'offer':336 'onedr':322 'option':11 'pay':82 'pcloud':74 'peac':40 'per':241 'perfect':502 'person':246 'plan':86,169 'point':277 'potenti':44 'prefer':389 'pretti':237 'price':61 'principl':461 'privaci':458 'probabl':31,492,519 'product':385 'promis':165,421 'put':531 'quit':253 'rang':25,62 're':428 'readi':68 'realli':16 'say':429 'sens':475 'servic':380,466 'setup':260 'singl':276 'smart':296 'softwar':482 'solid':210 'someth':57,65,345,392,439,446 'sorta':399 'sound':425 'sourc':360,503 'space':47 'specif':168,418 'standardnot':448 'standardnotes.com':450 'standardnotes.com/),':449 'storag':10,90,455,541 'stuff':249,308 'subscrib':55 'suggest':141 'super':124 'sure':156,411 'syncth':264,523 'tb':24 'tell':486 'term':164,271,420 'terrabyt':339 'therefor':213 'thing':230 'think':54,512 'though':233 'thought':71,506,538 'thoughts/reasoning/caveats':247 'too-good-to-be-tru':373 'tri':311 'true':378 'trust':118,158,254,416 'upkeep':274 'upstart':395 'usabl':110 'use':257 've':310 'version':314 'want':17,225,344,371,438 'way':293 'would':388 'www.idrive.com':122 'www.idrive.com/pricing)':121 'www.linode.com':470 'www.linode.com/support-experience/),':469 'www.pcloud.com':76 'www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':75 'year':242 'yet':30 'zero':194"
    +cross: false
    +upVotes: 0
    +downVotes: 0
    +ranking: 1642260128
    +visibility: "visible             "
    +apId: "https://lemmy.ml/post/149005"
    +editedAt: null
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1642173728 {#1793
      date: 2022-01-14 16:22:08.0 +01:00
    }
  }
  +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
  +image: null
  +parent: App\Entity\EntryComment {#4739
    +user: App\Entity\User {#4752 …}
    +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419}
    +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
    +image: null
    +parent: null
    +root: null
    +body: "One thing to keep in mind with something like Syncthing is where the physical location of the other machine(s) is. The nice thing about cloud storage is that your data is in an entirely different geographic region, so if there’s a hurricane, flood, fire, etc. your data is still safe. That being said, I use Google drive at the moment so I’ll also be keeping an eye on this post for alternatives."
    +lang: "en"
    +isAdult: false
    +favouriteCount: 14
    +score: 0
    +lastActive: DateTime @1689702185 {#4734
      date: 2023-07-18 19:43:05.0 +02:00
    }
    +ip: null
    +tags: null
    +mentions: [
      "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
    ]
    +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4740 …}
    +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4742 …}
    +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4744 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4746 …}
    +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4748 …}
    +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4750 …}
    -id: 17989
    -bodyTs: "'also':66 'altern':75 'cloud':26 'data':31,49 'differ':36 'drive':59 'entir':35 'etc':47 'eye':70 'fire':46 'flood':45 'geograph':37 'googl':58 'hurrican':44 'keep':4,68 'like':9 'll':65 'locat':15 'machin':19 'mind':6 'moment':62 'nice':23 'one':1 'physic':14 'post':73 'region':38 'safe':52 'said':55 'someth':8 'still':51 'storag':27 'syncth':10 'thing':2,24 'use':57"
    +ranking: 0
    +commentCount: 0
    +upVotes: 0
    +downVotes: 0
    +visibility: "visible             "
    +apId: "https://lemmy.world/comment/1299422"
    +editedAt: null
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689424997 {#4735
      date: 2023-07-15 14:43:17.0 +02:00
    }
  }
  +root: App\Entity\EntryComment {#4739}
  +body: "Right, if you’re relying on self-hosted storage you need an offsite backup. Backblaze is cheap."
  +lang: "en"
  +isAdult: false
  +favouriteCount: 0
  +score: 0
  +lastActive: DateTime @1689702176 {#4910
    date: 2023-07-18 19:42:56.0 +02:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +tags: null
  +mentions: [
    "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
    "@roostopher@lemmy.world"
  ]
  +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4914 …}
  +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4916 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4918 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4920 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4922 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4924 …}
  -id: 21970
  -bodyTs: "'backblaz':16 'backup':15 'cheap':18 'host':9 'need':12 'offsit':14 're':4 'reli':5 'right':1 'self':8 'self-host':7 'storag':10"
  +ranking: 0
  +commentCount: 0
  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://lemmy.one/comment/1241623"
  +editedAt: null
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689702176 {#4911
    date: 2023-07-18 19:42:56.0 +02:00
  }
}
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
83 DENIED edit 
App\Entity\EntryComment {#4912
  +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#4913 …}
  +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419
    +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#1970 …}
    +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265
      +icon: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#246 …}
      +name: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +title: "asklemmy"
      +description: """
        A loosely moderated place to ask open-ended questions\n
        \n
        **[Search asklemmy](https://lemmy.ml/search?q=&type=Posts&listingType=All&communityId=8&page=1&sort=TopAll) 🔍**\n
        \n
        If your post meets the following criteria, it’s welcome here!\n
        \n
        1. Open-ended\n
        2. Not offensive: at this point, we do not have the bandwidth to moderate overtly political discussions\n
        3. **Not regarding using or support for Lemmy**: [context](https://lemmy.ml/post/1223478), find help in the list of support alternatives below\n
        4. Not ad nauseam inducing: please make sure it is a question that would be new to most members\n
        5. [An actual topic of discussion](https://lemmy.ml/post/1239589)\n
        \n
        Support alternatives:\n
        \n
        - [!lemmy_support@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/lemmy_support)\n
        - [!nostupidlemmyquestions@lemmy.dbzer0.com](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/nostupidlemmyquestions)\n
        - [!selfhosted@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/selfhosted)\n
        \n
        ~Icon~ ~by~ ~@Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de~
        """
      +rules: null
      +subscriptionsCount: 0
      +entryCount: 580
      +entryCommentCount: 15558
      +postCount: 7
      +postCommentCount: 129
      +isAdult: false
      +customCss: null
      +lastActive: DateTime @1689748304 {#275
        date: 2023-07-19 08:31:44.0 +02:00
      }
      +markedForDeletionAt: null
      +tags: null
      +moderators: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#237 …}
      +ownershipRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#233 …}
      +moderatorRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#222 …}
      +entries: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#180 …}
      +posts: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#138 …}
      +subscriptions: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#200 …}
      +bans: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#117 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#103 …}
      +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#81 …}
      +logs: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#71 …}
      +awards: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1346 …}
      +categories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1823 …}
      -id: 9
      +apId: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +apProfileId: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apPublicUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apFollowersUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy/followers"
      +apInboxUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/inbox"
      +apDomain: "lemmy.ml"
      +apPreferredUsername: "asklemmy"
      +apDiscoverable: true
      +apManuallyApprovesFollowers: null
      +privateKey: null
      +publicKey: null
      +apFetchedAt: DateTime @1689747596 {#269
        date: 2023-07-19 08:19:56.0 +02:00
      }
      +apDeletedAt: null
      +apTimeoutAt: null
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1686889707 {#271
        date: 2023-06-16 06:28:27.0 +02:00
      }
    }
    +image: null
    +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#1915 …}
    +slug: "Best-options-for-Non-Google-cloud-storage-as-of-2022"
    +title: "Best options for Non-Google cloud storage as of 2022?"
    +url: null
    +body: """
      What are Lemmy’s feelings about the best cloud storage options these days, if you really want to break into the 1-2TB range? I’m not there yet, probably not even halfway there, but I like the peace of mind of potentially having the space if I need it. And I think subscribing to something in the Netflix price range is maybe something I’m ready for.\n
      \n
      My thoughts so far:\n
      \n
      [pcloud](https://www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime) - Intriguing because you can pay for a “lifetime” plan of 2TB of storage. But it’s $350, which is a lot, and I don’t know that I love the interface or usability, and I don’t know if I trust them.\n
      \n
      [iDrive](https://www.idrive.com/pricing) - Super affordable. 5tb for “just” $80/year. It might be the best deal, but nothing about their identity suggests to me that they are “good guys.” By which I mean, I’m not sure I trust them to make long-term promises for any specific plan.\n
      \n
      [Mega](https://mega.io/pro) - I like its very anti-google, very encrypted attitude. Born from the ashes of megaupload, they built encryption and zero knowledge into it. I LOVE that you can connect to it through the android app Solid Explorer and therefore don’t even need the mega app if you don’t want it. I hear bad things about it though? And it’s pretty expensive at $115 per year for 2TB.\n
      \n
      My personal thoughts/reasoning/caveats:\n
      \n
      **Homebrew stuff**: I don’t *quite* trust myself to use a homebrew setup like Nextcloud or Syncthing correctly. There’s too much in terms of labor, upkeep, catastrophic single points of failure where you could lose everything. I feel like I’m 70% of the way to being smart enough to do this.\n
      \n
      **Avoiding the Bad Guys and the Free Stuff**: I’ve tried the free version of just about everything, from Google to Onedrive to Dropbox to Mediafire to Mega. There’s even an android app that offers 1 free terrabyte?? But I don’t want something from the bad guys where I’m going to be integrated into their closed source death drap: Google, Amazon, Microsoft, Apple, and I don’t want a too-good-to-be-true free service where I’m the product.\n
      \n
      I also would prefer to avoid something from the upstarts who kinda-sorta imitate the bad guys: Dropbox, Mediafire, Box. Because I’m not sure how much I can trust any specific long term promise from them.\n
      \n
      **It sounds like you’re saying nothing is good enough! What exactly do you want!?** Something from good guys, not bad guys. Something like [Standardnotes](https://standardnotes.com/), but for file storage. They emphasize privacy, good governance principles and longevity of their service. Or [Linode](https://www.linode.com/support-experience/), with their independence, sense of mission, love of Linux & free software, all of which tells me they are good guys.\n
      \n
      Probably the correct answer is (1) here’s this magical perfect source I never thought of, or (2) I’m thinking this much about it, I should probably do Nextcloud or syncthing given all the constraints that I’m putting out there.\n
      \n
      Anyway, that’s my thoughts on cloud storage. What are yours?
      """
    +type: "article"
    +lang: "en"
    +isOc: false
    +hasEmbed: false
    +commentCount: 25
    +favouriteCount: 41
    +score: 0
    +isAdult: false
    +sticky: false
    +lastActive: DateTime @1689719793 {#2414
      date: 2023-07-19 00:36:33.0 +02:00
    }
    +ip: null
    +adaAmount: 0
    +tags: null
    +mentions: null
    +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1884 …}
    +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1973 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1959 …}
    +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1927 …}
    +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2442 …}
    +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2440 …}
    +children: []
    -id: 1294
    -titleTs: "'2022':11 'best':1 'cloud':7 'googl':6 'non':5 'non-googl':4 'option':2 'storag':8"
    -bodyTs: "'-2':23 '/),':451 '/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':77 '/pricing)':123 '/pro)':173 '/support-experience/),':471 '1':22,337,497 '115':240 '2':509 '2tb':88,244 '350':94 '5tb':126 '70':290 '80/year':129 'afford':125 'also':387 'amazon':364 'android':208,333 'answer':495 'anti':179 'anti-googl':178 'anyway':534 'app':209,220,334 'appl':366 'ash':187 'attitud':183 'avoid':301,391 'bad':229,303,348,402,444 'best':8,134 'born':184 'box':406 'break':19 'built':191 'catastroph':275 'close':359 'cloud':9,540 'connect':203 'constraint':527 'correct':265,494 'could':282 'day':13 'deal':135 'death':361 'drap':362 'dropbox':324,404 'emphas':457 'encrypt':182,192 'enough':297,433 'even':33,216,331 'everyth':284,318 'exact':435 'expens':238 'explor':211 'failur':279 'far':73 'feel':5,286 'file':454 'free':307,313,338,379,481 'given':524 'go':353 'good':147,375,432,441,459,490 'googl':180,320,363 'govern':460 'guy':148,304,349,403,442,445,491 'halfway':34 'hear':228 'homebrew':248,259 'ident':140 'idriv':120 'imit':400 'independ':474 'integr':356 'interfac':108 'intrigu':78 'kinda':398 'kinda-sorta':397 'know':103,115 'knowledg':195 'labor':273 'lemmi':3 'lifetim':85 'like':38,175,261,287,426,447 'linod':468 'linux':480 'long':163,419 'long-term':162 'longev':463 'lose':283 'lot':98 'love':106,199,478 'm':27,67,154,289,352,383,409,511,530 'magic':501 'make':161 'mayb':64 'mean':152 'mediafir':326,405 'mega':170,219,328 'mega.io':172 'mega.io/pro)':171 'megaupload':189 'microsoft':365 'might':131 'mind':42 'mission':477 'much':269,413,514 'need':50,217 'netflix':60 'never':505 'nextcloud':262,521 'noth':137,430 'offer':336 'onedr':322 'option':11 'pay':82 'pcloud':74 'peac':40 'per':241 'perfect':502 'person':246 'plan':86,169 'point':277 'potenti':44 'prefer':389 'pretti':237 'price':61 'principl':461 'privaci':458 'probabl':31,492,519 'product':385 'promis':165,421 'put':531 'quit':253 'rang':25,62 're':428 'readi':68 'realli':16 'say':429 'sens':475 'servic':380,466 'setup':260 'singl':276 'smart':296 'softwar':482 'solid':210 'someth':57,65,345,392,439,446 'sorta':399 'sound':425 'sourc':360,503 'space':47 'specif':168,418 'standardnot':448 'standardnotes.com':450 'standardnotes.com/),':449 'storag':10,90,455,541 'stuff':249,308 'subscrib':55 'suggest':141 'super':124 'sure':156,411 'syncth':264,523 'tb':24 'tell':486 'term':164,271,420 'terrabyt':339 'therefor':213 'thing':230 'think':54,512 'though':233 'thought':71,506,538 'thoughts/reasoning/caveats':247 'too-good-to-be-tru':373 'tri':311 'true':378 'trust':118,158,254,416 'upkeep':274 'upstart':395 'usabl':110 'use':257 've':310 'version':314 'want':17,225,344,371,438 'way':293 'would':388 'www.idrive.com':122 'www.idrive.com/pricing)':121 'www.linode.com':470 'www.linode.com/support-experience/),':469 'www.pcloud.com':76 'www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':75 'year':242 'yet':30 'zero':194"
    +cross: false
    +upVotes: 0
    +downVotes: 0
    +ranking: 1642260128
    +visibility: "visible             "
    +apId: "https://lemmy.ml/post/149005"
    +editedAt: null
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1642173728 {#1793
      date: 2022-01-14 16:22:08.0 +01:00
    }
  }
  +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
  +image: null
  +parent: App\Entity\EntryComment {#4739
    +user: App\Entity\User {#4752 …}
    +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419}
    +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
    +image: null
    +parent: null
    +root: null
    +body: "One thing to keep in mind with something like Syncthing is where the physical location of the other machine(s) is. The nice thing about cloud storage is that your data is in an entirely different geographic region, so if there’s a hurricane, flood, fire, etc. your data is still safe. That being said, I use Google drive at the moment so I’ll also be keeping an eye on this post for alternatives."
    +lang: "en"
    +isAdult: false
    +favouriteCount: 14
    +score: 0
    +lastActive: DateTime @1689702185 {#4734
      date: 2023-07-18 19:43:05.0 +02:00
    }
    +ip: null
    +tags: null
    +mentions: [
      "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
    ]
    +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4740 …}
    +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4742 …}
    +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4744 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4746 …}
    +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4748 …}
    +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4750 …}
    -id: 17989
    -bodyTs: "'also':66 'altern':75 'cloud':26 'data':31,49 'differ':36 'drive':59 'entir':35 'etc':47 'eye':70 'fire':46 'flood':45 'geograph':37 'googl':58 'hurrican':44 'keep':4,68 'like':9 'll':65 'locat':15 'machin':19 'mind':6 'moment':62 'nice':23 'one':1 'physic':14 'post':73 'region':38 'safe':52 'said':55 'someth':8 'still':51 'storag':27 'syncth':10 'thing':2,24 'use':57"
    +ranking: 0
    +commentCount: 0
    +upVotes: 0
    +downVotes: 0
    +visibility: "visible             "
    +apId: "https://lemmy.world/comment/1299422"
    +editedAt: null
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689424997 {#4735
      date: 2023-07-15 14:43:17.0 +02:00
    }
  }
  +root: App\Entity\EntryComment {#4739}
  +body: "Right, if you’re relying on self-hosted storage you need an offsite backup. Backblaze is cheap."
  +lang: "en"
  +isAdult: false
  +favouriteCount: 0
  +score: 0
  +lastActive: DateTime @1689702176 {#4910
    date: 2023-07-18 19:42:56.0 +02:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +tags: null
  +mentions: [
    "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
    "@roostopher@lemmy.world"
  ]
  +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4914 …}
  +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4916 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4918 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4920 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4922 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4924 …}
  -id: 21970
  -bodyTs: "'backblaz':16 'backup':15 'cheap':18 'host':9 'need':12 'offsit':14 're':4 'reli':5 'right':1 'self':8 'self-host':7 'storag':10"
  +ranking: 0
  +commentCount: 0
  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://lemmy.one/comment/1241623"
  +editedAt: null
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689702176 {#4911
    date: 2023-07-18 19:42:56.0 +02:00
  }
}
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
84 DENIED moderate 
App\Entity\EntryComment {#4912
  +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#4913 …}
  +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419
    +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#1970 …}
    +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265
      +icon: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#246 …}
      +name: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +title: "asklemmy"
      +description: """
        A loosely moderated place to ask open-ended questions\n
        \n
        **[Search asklemmy](https://lemmy.ml/search?q=&type=Posts&listingType=All&communityId=8&page=1&sort=TopAll) 🔍**\n
        \n
        If your post meets the following criteria, it’s welcome here!\n
        \n
        1. Open-ended\n
        2. Not offensive: at this point, we do not have the bandwidth to moderate overtly political discussions\n
        3. **Not regarding using or support for Lemmy**: [context](https://lemmy.ml/post/1223478), find help in the list of support alternatives below\n
        4. Not ad nauseam inducing: please make sure it is a question that would be new to most members\n
        5. [An actual topic of discussion](https://lemmy.ml/post/1239589)\n
        \n
        Support alternatives:\n
        \n
        - [!lemmy_support@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/lemmy_support)\n
        - [!nostupidlemmyquestions@lemmy.dbzer0.com](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/nostupidlemmyquestions)\n
        - [!selfhosted@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/selfhosted)\n
        \n
        ~Icon~ ~by~ ~@Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de~
        """
      +rules: null
      +subscriptionsCount: 0
      +entryCount: 580
      +entryCommentCount: 15558
      +postCount: 7
      +postCommentCount: 129
      +isAdult: false
      +customCss: null
      +lastActive: DateTime @1689748304 {#275
        date: 2023-07-19 08:31:44.0 +02:00
      }
      +markedForDeletionAt: null
      +tags: null
      +moderators: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#237 …}
      +ownershipRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#233 …}
      +moderatorRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#222 …}
      +entries: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#180 …}
      +posts: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#138 …}
      +subscriptions: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#200 …}
      +bans: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#117 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#103 …}
      +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#81 …}
      +logs: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#71 …}
      +awards: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1346 …}
      +categories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1823 …}
      -id: 9
      +apId: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +apProfileId: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apPublicUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apFollowersUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy/followers"
      +apInboxUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/inbox"
      +apDomain: "lemmy.ml"
      +apPreferredUsername: "asklemmy"
      +apDiscoverable: true
      +apManuallyApprovesFollowers: null
      +privateKey: null
      +publicKey: null
      +apFetchedAt: DateTime @1689747596 {#269
        date: 2023-07-19 08:19:56.0 +02:00
      }
      +apDeletedAt: null
      +apTimeoutAt: null
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1686889707 {#271
        date: 2023-06-16 06:28:27.0 +02:00
      }
    }
    +image: null
    +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#1915 …}
    +slug: "Best-options-for-Non-Google-cloud-storage-as-of-2022"
    +title: "Best options for Non-Google cloud storage as of 2022?"
    +url: null
    +body: """
      What are Lemmy’s feelings about the best cloud storage options these days, if you really want to break into the 1-2TB range? I’m not there yet, probably not even halfway there, but I like the peace of mind of potentially having the space if I need it. And I think subscribing to something in the Netflix price range is maybe something I’m ready for.\n
      \n
      My thoughts so far:\n
      \n
      [pcloud](https://www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime) - Intriguing because you can pay for a “lifetime” plan of 2TB of storage. But it’s $350, which is a lot, and I don’t know that I love the interface or usability, and I don’t know if I trust them.\n
      \n
      [iDrive](https://www.idrive.com/pricing) - Super affordable. 5tb for “just” $80/year. It might be the best deal, but nothing about their identity suggests to me that they are “good guys.” By which I mean, I’m not sure I trust them to make long-term promises for any specific plan.\n
      \n
      [Mega](https://mega.io/pro) - I like its very anti-google, very encrypted attitude. Born from the ashes of megaupload, they built encryption and zero knowledge into it. I LOVE that you can connect to it through the android app Solid Explorer and therefore don’t even need the mega app if you don’t want it. I hear bad things about it though? And it’s pretty expensive at $115 per year for 2TB.\n
      \n
      My personal thoughts/reasoning/caveats:\n
      \n
      **Homebrew stuff**: I don’t *quite* trust myself to use a homebrew setup like Nextcloud or Syncthing correctly. There’s too much in terms of labor, upkeep, catastrophic single points of failure where you could lose everything. I feel like I’m 70% of the way to being smart enough to do this.\n
      \n
      **Avoiding the Bad Guys and the Free Stuff**: I’ve tried the free version of just about everything, from Google to Onedrive to Dropbox to Mediafire to Mega. There’s even an android app that offers 1 free terrabyte?? But I don’t want something from the bad guys where I’m going to be integrated into their closed source death drap: Google, Amazon, Microsoft, Apple, and I don’t want a too-good-to-be-true free service where I’m the product.\n
      \n
      I also would prefer to avoid something from the upstarts who kinda-sorta imitate the bad guys: Dropbox, Mediafire, Box. Because I’m not sure how much I can trust any specific long term promise from them.\n
      \n
      **It sounds like you’re saying nothing is good enough! What exactly do you want!?** Something from good guys, not bad guys. Something like [Standardnotes](https://standardnotes.com/), but for file storage. They emphasize privacy, good governance principles and longevity of their service. Or [Linode](https://www.linode.com/support-experience/), with their independence, sense of mission, love of Linux & free software, all of which tells me they are good guys.\n
      \n
      Probably the correct answer is (1) here’s this magical perfect source I never thought of, or (2) I’m thinking this much about it, I should probably do Nextcloud or syncthing given all the constraints that I’m putting out there.\n
      \n
      Anyway, that’s my thoughts on cloud storage. What are yours?
      """
    +type: "article"
    +lang: "en"
    +isOc: false
    +hasEmbed: false
    +commentCount: 25
    +favouriteCount: 41
    +score: 0
    +isAdult: false
    +sticky: false
    +lastActive: DateTime @1689719793 {#2414
      date: 2023-07-19 00:36:33.0 +02:00
    }
    +ip: null
    +adaAmount: 0
    +tags: null
    +mentions: null
    +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1884 …}
    +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1973 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1959 …}
    +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1927 …}
    +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2442 …}
    +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2440 …}
    +children: []
    -id: 1294
    -titleTs: "'2022':11 'best':1 'cloud':7 'googl':6 'non':5 'non-googl':4 'option':2 'storag':8"
    -bodyTs: "'-2':23 '/),':451 '/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':77 '/pricing)':123 '/pro)':173 '/support-experience/),':471 '1':22,337,497 '115':240 '2':509 '2tb':88,244 '350':94 '5tb':126 '70':290 '80/year':129 'afford':125 'also':387 'amazon':364 'android':208,333 'answer':495 'anti':179 'anti-googl':178 'anyway':534 'app':209,220,334 'appl':366 'ash':187 'attitud':183 'avoid':301,391 'bad':229,303,348,402,444 'best':8,134 'born':184 'box':406 'break':19 'built':191 'catastroph':275 'close':359 'cloud':9,540 'connect':203 'constraint':527 'correct':265,494 'could':282 'day':13 'deal':135 'death':361 'drap':362 'dropbox':324,404 'emphas':457 'encrypt':182,192 'enough':297,433 'even':33,216,331 'everyth':284,318 'exact':435 'expens':238 'explor':211 'failur':279 'far':73 'feel':5,286 'file':454 'free':307,313,338,379,481 'given':524 'go':353 'good':147,375,432,441,459,490 'googl':180,320,363 'govern':460 'guy':148,304,349,403,442,445,491 'halfway':34 'hear':228 'homebrew':248,259 'ident':140 'idriv':120 'imit':400 'independ':474 'integr':356 'interfac':108 'intrigu':78 'kinda':398 'kinda-sorta':397 'know':103,115 'knowledg':195 'labor':273 'lemmi':3 'lifetim':85 'like':38,175,261,287,426,447 'linod':468 'linux':480 'long':163,419 'long-term':162 'longev':463 'lose':283 'lot':98 'love':106,199,478 'm':27,67,154,289,352,383,409,511,530 'magic':501 'make':161 'mayb':64 'mean':152 'mediafir':326,405 'mega':170,219,328 'mega.io':172 'mega.io/pro)':171 'megaupload':189 'microsoft':365 'might':131 'mind':42 'mission':477 'much':269,413,514 'need':50,217 'netflix':60 'never':505 'nextcloud':262,521 'noth':137,430 'offer':336 'onedr':322 'option':11 'pay':82 'pcloud':74 'peac':40 'per':241 'perfect':502 'person':246 'plan':86,169 'point':277 'potenti':44 'prefer':389 'pretti':237 'price':61 'principl':461 'privaci':458 'probabl':31,492,519 'product':385 'promis':165,421 'put':531 'quit':253 'rang':25,62 're':428 'readi':68 'realli':16 'say':429 'sens':475 'servic':380,466 'setup':260 'singl':276 'smart':296 'softwar':482 'solid':210 'someth':57,65,345,392,439,446 'sorta':399 'sound':425 'sourc':360,503 'space':47 'specif':168,418 'standardnot':448 'standardnotes.com':450 'standardnotes.com/),':449 'storag':10,90,455,541 'stuff':249,308 'subscrib':55 'suggest':141 'super':124 'sure':156,411 'syncth':264,523 'tb':24 'tell':486 'term':164,271,420 'terrabyt':339 'therefor':213 'thing':230 'think':54,512 'though':233 'thought':71,506,538 'thoughts/reasoning/caveats':247 'too-good-to-be-tru':373 'tri':311 'true':378 'trust':118,158,254,416 'upkeep':274 'upstart':395 'usabl':110 'use':257 've':310 'version':314 'want':17,225,344,371,438 'way':293 'would':388 'www.idrive.com':122 'www.idrive.com/pricing)':121 'www.linode.com':470 'www.linode.com/support-experience/),':469 'www.pcloud.com':76 'www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':75 'year':242 'yet':30 'zero':194"
    +cross: false
    +upVotes: 0
    +downVotes: 0
    +ranking: 1642260128
    +visibility: "visible             "
    +apId: "https://lemmy.ml/post/149005"
    +editedAt: null
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1642173728 {#1793
      date: 2022-01-14 16:22:08.0 +01:00
    }
  }
  +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
  +image: null
  +parent: App\Entity\EntryComment {#4739
    +user: App\Entity\User {#4752 …}
    +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419}
    +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
    +image: null
    +parent: null
    +root: null
    +body: "One thing to keep in mind with something like Syncthing is where the physical location of the other machine(s) is. The nice thing about cloud storage is that your data is in an entirely different geographic region, so if there’s a hurricane, flood, fire, etc. your data is still safe. That being said, I use Google drive at the moment so I’ll also be keeping an eye on this post for alternatives."
    +lang: "en"
    +isAdult: false
    +favouriteCount: 14
    +score: 0
    +lastActive: DateTime @1689702185 {#4734
      date: 2023-07-18 19:43:05.0 +02:00
    }
    +ip: null
    +tags: null
    +mentions: [
      "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
    ]
    +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4740 …}
    +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4742 …}
    +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4744 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4746 …}
    +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4748 …}
    +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4750 …}
    -id: 17989
    -bodyTs: "'also':66 'altern':75 'cloud':26 'data':31,49 'differ':36 'drive':59 'entir':35 'etc':47 'eye':70 'fire':46 'flood':45 'geograph':37 'googl':58 'hurrican':44 'keep':4,68 'like':9 'll':65 'locat':15 'machin':19 'mind':6 'moment':62 'nice':23 'one':1 'physic':14 'post':73 'region':38 'safe':52 'said':55 'someth':8 'still':51 'storag':27 'syncth':10 'thing':2,24 'use':57"
    +ranking: 0
    +commentCount: 0
    +upVotes: 0
    +downVotes: 0
    +visibility: "visible             "
    +apId: "https://lemmy.world/comment/1299422"
    +editedAt: null
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689424997 {#4735
      date: 2023-07-15 14:43:17.0 +02:00
    }
  }
  +root: App\Entity\EntryComment {#4739}
  +body: "Right, if you’re relying on self-hosted storage you need an offsite backup. Backblaze is cheap."
  +lang: "en"
  +isAdult: false
  +favouriteCount: 0
  +score: 0
  +lastActive: DateTime @1689702176 {#4910
    date: 2023-07-18 19:42:56.0 +02:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +tags: null
  +mentions: [
    "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
    "@roostopher@lemmy.world"
  ]
  +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4914 …}
  +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4916 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4918 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4920 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4922 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4924 …}
  -id: 21970
  -bodyTs: "'backblaz':16 'backup':15 'cheap':18 'host':9 'need':12 'offsit':14 're':4 'reli':5 'right':1 'self':8 'self-host':7 'storag':10"
  +ranking: 0
  +commentCount: 0
  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://lemmy.one/comment/1241623"
  +editedAt: null
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689702176 {#4911
    date: 2023-07-18 19:42:56.0 +02:00
  }
}
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
85 DENIED ROLE_USER 
null
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
86 DENIED moderate 
App\Entity\EntryComment {#4928
  +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#4929 …}
  +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419
    +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#1970 …}
    +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265
      +icon: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#246 …}
      +name: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +title: "asklemmy"
      +description: """
        A loosely moderated place to ask open-ended questions\n
        \n
        **[Search asklemmy](https://lemmy.ml/search?q=&type=Posts&listingType=All&communityId=8&page=1&sort=TopAll) 🔍**\n
        \n
        If your post meets the following criteria, it’s welcome here!\n
        \n
        1. Open-ended\n
        2. Not offensive: at this point, we do not have the bandwidth to moderate overtly political discussions\n
        3. **Not regarding using or support for Lemmy**: [context](https://lemmy.ml/post/1223478), find help in the list of support alternatives below\n
        4. Not ad nauseam inducing: please make sure it is a question that would be new to most members\n
        5. [An actual topic of discussion](https://lemmy.ml/post/1239589)\n
        \n
        Support alternatives:\n
        \n
        - [!lemmy_support@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/lemmy_support)\n
        - [!nostupidlemmyquestions@lemmy.dbzer0.com](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/nostupidlemmyquestions)\n
        - [!selfhosted@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/selfhosted)\n
        \n
        ~Icon~ ~by~ ~@Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de~
        """
      +rules: null
      +subscriptionsCount: 0
      +entryCount: 580
      +entryCommentCount: 15558
      +postCount: 7
      +postCommentCount: 129
      +isAdult: false
      +customCss: null
      +lastActive: DateTime @1689748304 {#275
        date: 2023-07-19 08:31:44.0 +02:00
      }
      +markedForDeletionAt: null
      +tags: null
      +moderators: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#237 …}
      +ownershipRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#233 …}
      +moderatorRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#222 …}
      +entries: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#180 …}
      +posts: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#138 …}
      +subscriptions: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#200 …}
      +bans: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#117 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#103 …}
      +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#81 …}
      +logs: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#71 …}
      +awards: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1346 …}
      +categories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1823 …}
      -id: 9
      +apId: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +apProfileId: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apPublicUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apFollowersUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy/followers"
      +apInboxUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/inbox"
      +apDomain: "lemmy.ml"
      +apPreferredUsername: "asklemmy"
      +apDiscoverable: true
      +apManuallyApprovesFollowers: null
      +privateKey: null
      +publicKey: null
      +apFetchedAt: DateTime @1689747596 {#269
        date: 2023-07-19 08:19:56.0 +02:00
      }
      +apDeletedAt: null
      +apTimeoutAt: null
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1686889707 {#271
        date: 2023-06-16 06:28:27.0 +02:00
      }
    }
    +image: null
    +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#1915 …}
    +slug: "Best-options-for-Non-Google-cloud-storage-as-of-2022"
    +title: "Best options for Non-Google cloud storage as of 2022?"
    +url: null
    +body: """
      What are Lemmy’s feelings about the best cloud storage options these days, if you really want to break into the 1-2TB range? I’m not there yet, probably not even halfway there, but I like the peace of mind of potentially having the space if I need it. And I think subscribing to something in the Netflix price range is maybe something I’m ready for.\n
      \n
      My thoughts so far:\n
      \n
      [pcloud](https://www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime) - Intriguing because you can pay for a “lifetime” plan of 2TB of storage. But it’s $350, which is a lot, and I don’t know that I love the interface or usability, and I don’t know if I trust them.\n
      \n
      [iDrive](https://www.idrive.com/pricing) - Super affordable. 5tb for “just” $80/year. It might be the best deal, but nothing about their identity suggests to me that they are “good guys.” By which I mean, I’m not sure I trust them to make long-term promises for any specific plan.\n
      \n
      [Mega](https://mega.io/pro) - I like its very anti-google, very encrypted attitude. Born from the ashes of megaupload, they built encryption and zero knowledge into it. I LOVE that you can connect to it through the android app Solid Explorer and therefore don’t even need the mega app if you don’t want it. I hear bad things about it though? And it’s pretty expensive at $115 per year for 2TB.\n
      \n
      My personal thoughts/reasoning/caveats:\n
      \n
      **Homebrew stuff**: I don’t *quite* trust myself to use a homebrew setup like Nextcloud or Syncthing correctly. There’s too much in terms of labor, upkeep, catastrophic single points of failure where you could lose everything. I feel like I’m 70% of the way to being smart enough to do this.\n
      \n
      **Avoiding the Bad Guys and the Free Stuff**: I’ve tried the free version of just about everything, from Google to Onedrive to Dropbox to Mediafire to Mega. There’s even an android app that offers 1 free terrabyte?? But I don’t want something from the bad guys where I’m going to be integrated into their closed source death drap: Google, Amazon, Microsoft, Apple, and I don’t want a too-good-to-be-true free service where I’m the product.\n
      \n
      I also would prefer to avoid something from the upstarts who kinda-sorta imitate the bad guys: Dropbox, Mediafire, Box. Because I’m not sure how much I can trust any specific long term promise from them.\n
      \n
      **It sounds like you’re saying nothing is good enough! What exactly do you want!?** Something from good guys, not bad guys. Something like [Standardnotes](https://standardnotes.com/), but for file storage. They emphasize privacy, good governance principles and longevity of their service. Or [Linode](https://www.linode.com/support-experience/), with their independence, sense of mission, love of Linux & free software, all of which tells me they are good guys.\n
      \n
      Probably the correct answer is (1) here’s this magical perfect source I never thought of, or (2) I’m thinking this much about it, I should probably do Nextcloud or syncthing given all the constraints that I’m putting out there.\n
      \n
      Anyway, that’s my thoughts on cloud storage. What are yours?
      """
    +type: "article"
    +lang: "en"
    +isOc: false
    +hasEmbed: false
    +commentCount: 25
    +favouriteCount: 41
    +score: 0
    +isAdult: false
    +sticky: false
    +lastActive: DateTime @1689719793 {#2414
      date: 2023-07-19 00:36:33.0 +02:00
    }
    +ip: null
    +adaAmount: 0
    +tags: null
    +mentions: null
    +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1884 …}
    +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1973 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1959 …}
    +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1927 …}
    +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2442 …}
    +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2440 …}
    +children: []
    -id: 1294
    -titleTs: "'2022':11 'best':1 'cloud':7 'googl':6 'non':5 'non-googl':4 'option':2 'storag':8"
    -bodyTs: "'-2':23 '/),':451 '/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':77 '/pricing)':123 '/pro)':173 '/support-experience/),':471 '1':22,337,497 '115':240 '2':509 '2tb':88,244 '350':94 '5tb':126 '70':290 '80/year':129 'afford':125 'also':387 'amazon':364 'android':208,333 'answer':495 'anti':179 'anti-googl':178 'anyway':534 'app':209,220,334 'appl':366 'ash':187 'attitud':183 'avoid':301,391 'bad':229,303,348,402,444 'best':8,134 'born':184 'box':406 'break':19 'built':191 'catastroph':275 'close':359 'cloud':9,540 'connect':203 'constraint':527 'correct':265,494 'could':282 'day':13 'deal':135 'death':361 'drap':362 'dropbox':324,404 'emphas':457 'encrypt':182,192 'enough':297,433 'even':33,216,331 'everyth':284,318 'exact':435 'expens':238 'explor':211 'failur':279 'far':73 'feel':5,286 'file':454 'free':307,313,338,379,481 'given':524 'go':353 'good':147,375,432,441,459,490 'googl':180,320,363 'govern':460 'guy':148,304,349,403,442,445,491 'halfway':34 'hear':228 'homebrew':248,259 'ident':140 'idriv':120 'imit':400 'independ':474 'integr':356 'interfac':108 'intrigu':78 'kinda':398 'kinda-sorta':397 'know':103,115 'knowledg':195 'labor':273 'lemmi':3 'lifetim':85 'like':38,175,261,287,426,447 'linod':468 'linux':480 'long':163,419 'long-term':162 'longev':463 'lose':283 'lot':98 'love':106,199,478 'm':27,67,154,289,352,383,409,511,530 'magic':501 'make':161 'mayb':64 'mean':152 'mediafir':326,405 'mega':170,219,328 'mega.io':172 'mega.io/pro)':171 'megaupload':189 'microsoft':365 'might':131 'mind':42 'mission':477 'much':269,413,514 'need':50,217 'netflix':60 'never':505 'nextcloud':262,521 'noth':137,430 'offer':336 'onedr':322 'option':11 'pay':82 'pcloud':74 'peac':40 'per':241 'perfect':502 'person':246 'plan':86,169 'point':277 'potenti':44 'prefer':389 'pretti':237 'price':61 'principl':461 'privaci':458 'probabl':31,492,519 'product':385 'promis':165,421 'put':531 'quit':253 'rang':25,62 're':428 'readi':68 'realli':16 'say':429 'sens':475 'servic':380,466 'setup':260 'singl':276 'smart':296 'softwar':482 'solid':210 'someth':57,65,345,392,439,446 'sorta':399 'sound':425 'sourc':360,503 'space':47 'specif':168,418 'standardnot':448 'standardnotes.com':450 'standardnotes.com/),':449 'storag':10,90,455,541 'stuff':249,308 'subscrib':55 'suggest':141 'super':124 'sure':156,411 'syncth':264,523 'tb':24 'tell':486 'term':164,271,420 'terrabyt':339 'therefor':213 'thing':230 'think':54,512 'though':233 'thought':71,506,538 'thoughts/reasoning/caveats':247 'too-good-to-be-tru':373 'tri':311 'true':378 'trust':118,158,254,416 'upkeep':274 'upstart':395 'usabl':110 'use':257 've':310 'version':314 'want':17,225,344,371,438 'way':293 'would':388 'www.idrive.com':122 'www.idrive.com/pricing)':121 'www.linode.com':470 'www.linode.com/support-experience/),':469 'www.pcloud.com':76 'www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':75 'year':242 'yet':30 'zero':194"
    +cross: false
    +upVotes: 0
    +downVotes: 0
    +ranking: 1642260128
    +visibility: "visible             "
    +apId: "https://lemmy.ml/post/149005"
    +editedAt: null
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1642173728 {#1793
      date: 2022-01-14 16:22:08.0 +01:00
    }
  }
  +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
  +image: null
  +parent: App\Entity\EntryComment {#4739
    +user: App\Entity\User {#4752 …}
    +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419}
    +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
    +image: null
    +parent: null
    +root: null
    +body: "One thing to keep in mind with something like Syncthing is where the physical location of the other machine(s) is. The nice thing about cloud storage is that your data is in an entirely different geographic region, so if there’s a hurricane, flood, fire, etc. your data is still safe. That being said, I use Google drive at the moment so I’ll also be keeping an eye on this post for alternatives."
    +lang: "en"
    +isAdult: false
    +favouriteCount: 14
    +score: 0
    +lastActive: DateTime @1689702185 {#4734
      date: 2023-07-18 19:43:05.0 +02:00
    }
    +ip: null
    +tags: null
    +mentions: [
      "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
    ]
    +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4740 …}
    +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4742 …}
    +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4744 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4746 …}
    +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4748 …}
    +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4750 …}
    -id: 17989
    -bodyTs: "'also':66 'altern':75 'cloud':26 'data':31,49 'differ':36 'drive':59 'entir':35 'etc':47 'eye':70 'fire':46 'flood':45 'geograph':37 'googl':58 'hurrican':44 'keep':4,68 'like':9 'll':65 'locat':15 'machin':19 'mind':6 'moment':62 'nice':23 'one':1 'physic':14 'post':73 'region':38 'safe':52 'said':55 'someth':8 'still':51 'storag':27 'syncth':10 'thing':2,24 'use':57"
    +ranking: 0
    +commentCount: 0
    +upVotes: 0
    +downVotes: 0
    +visibility: "visible             "
    +apId: "https://lemmy.world/comment/1299422"
    +editedAt: null
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689424997 {#4735
      date: 2023-07-15 14:43:17.0 +02:00
    }
  }
  +root: App\Entity\EntryComment {#4739}
  +body: "Similar boat to you. The “perk” of using Google Drive, is that I use it for everything else so it keeps everything in the same place for me."
  +lang: "en"
  +isAdult: false
  +favouriteCount: 0
  +score: 0
  +lastActive: DateTime @1689502735 {#4926
    date: 2023-07-16 12:18:55.0 +02:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +tags: null
  +mentions: [
    "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
    "@roostopher@lemmy.world"
  ]
  +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4930 …}
  +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4932 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4934 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4936 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4938 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4940 …}
  -id: 19650
  -bodyTs: "'boat':2 'drive':10 'els':18 'everyth':17,22 'googl':9 'keep':21 'perk':6 'place':26 'similar':1 'use':8,14"
  +ranking: 0
  +commentCount: 0
  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://feddit.uk/comment/983205"
  +editedAt: null
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689502735 {#4927
    date: 2023-07-16 12:18:55.0 +02:00
  }
}
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
87 DENIED edit 
App\Entity\EntryComment {#4928
  +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#4929 …}
  +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419
    +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#1970 …}
    +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265
      +icon: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#246 …}
      +name: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +title: "asklemmy"
      +description: """
        A loosely moderated place to ask open-ended questions\n
        \n
        **[Search asklemmy](https://lemmy.ml/search?q=&type=Posts&listingType=All&communityId=8&page=1&sort=TopAll) 🔍**\n
        \n
        If your post meets the following criteria, it’s welcome here!\n
        \n
        1. Open-ended\n
        2. Not offensive: at this point, we do not have the bandwidth to moderate overtly political discussions\n
        3. **Not regarding using or support for Lemmy**: [context](https://lemmy.ml/post/1223478), find help in the list of support alternatives below\n
        4. Not ad nauseam inducing: please make sure it is a question that would be new to most members\n
        5. [An actual topic of discussion](https://lemmy.ml/post/1239589)\n
        \n
        Support alternatives:\n
        \n
        - [!lemmy_support@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/lemmy_support)\n
        - [!nostupidlemmyquestions@lemmy.dbzer0.com](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/nostupidlemmyquestions)\n
        - [!selfhosted@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/selfhosted)\n
        \n
        ~Icon~ ~by~ ~@Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de~
        """
      +rules: null
      +subscriptionsCount: 0
      +entryCount: 580
      +entryCommentCount: 15558
      +postCount: 7
      +postCommentCount: 129
      +isAdult: false
      +customCss: null
      +lastActive: DateTime @1689748304 {#275
        date: 2023-07-19 08:31:44.0 +02:00
      }
      +markedForDeletionAt: null
      +tags: null
      +moderators: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#237 …}
      +ownershipRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#233 …}
      +moderatorRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#222 …}
      +entries: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#180 …}
      +posts: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#138 …}
      +subscriptions: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#200 …}
      +bans: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#117 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#103 …}
      +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#81 …}
      +logs: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#71 …}
      +awards: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1346 …}
      +categories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1823 …}
      -id: 9
      +apId: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +apProfileId: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apPublicUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apFollowersUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy/followers"
      +apInboxUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/inbox"
      +apDomain: "lemmy.ml"
      +apPreferredUsername: "asklemmy"
      +apDiscoverable: true
      +apManuallyApprovesFollowers: null
      +privateKey: null
      +publicKey: null
      +apFetchedAt: DateTime @1689747596 {#269
        date: 2023-07-19 08:19:56.0 +02:00
      }
      +apDeletedAt: null
      +apTimeoutAt: null
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1686889707 {#271
        date: 2023-06-16 06:28:27.0 +02:00
      }
    }
    +image: null
    +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#1915 …}
    +slug: "Best-options-for-Non-Google-cloud-storage-as-of-2022"
    +title: "Best options for Non-Google cloud storage as of 2022?"
    +url: null
    +body: """
      What are Lemmy’s feelings about the best cloud storage options these days, if you really want to break into the 1-2TB range? I’m not there yet, probably not even halfway there, but I like the peace of mind of potentially having the space if I need it. And I think subscribing to something in the Netflix price range is maybe something I’m ready for.\n
      \n
      My thoughts so far:\n
      \n
      [pcloud](https://www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime) - Intriguing because you can pay for a “lifetime” plan of 2TB of storage. But it’s $350, which is a lot, and I don’t know that I love the interface or usability, and I don’t know if I trust them.\n
      \n
      [iDrive](https://www.idrive.com/pricing) - Super affordable. 5tb for “just” $80/year. It might be the best deal, but nothing about their identity suggests to me that they are “good guys.” By which I mean, I’m not sure I trust them to make long-term promises for any specific plan.\n
      \n
      [Mega](https://mega.io/pro) - I like its very anti-google, very encrypted attitude. Born from the ashes of megaupload, they built encryption and zero knowledge into it. I LOVE that you can connect to it through the android app Solid Explorer and therefore don’t even need the mega app if you don’t want it. I hear bad things about it though? And it’s pretty expensive at $115 per year for 2TB.\n
      \n
      My personal thoughts/reasoning/caveats:\n
      \n
      **Homebrew stuff**: I don’t *quite* trust myself to use a homebrew setup like Nextcloud or Syncthing correctly. There’s too much in terms of labor, upkeep, catastrophic single points of failure where you could lose everything. I feel like I’m 70% of the way to being smart enough to do this.\n
      \n
      **Avoiding the Bad Guys and the Free Stuff**: I’ve tried the free version of just about everything, from Google to Onedrive to Dropbox to Mediafire to Mega. There’s even an android app that offers 1 free terrabyte?? But I don’t want something from the bad guys where I’m going to be integrated into their closed source death drap: Google, Amazon, Microsoft, Apple, and I don’t want a too-good-to-be-true free service where I’m the product.\n
      \n
      I also would prefer to avoid something from the upstarts who kinda-sorta imitate the bad guys: Dropbox, Mediafire, Box. Because I’m not sure how much I can trust any specific long term promise from them.\n
      \n
      **It sounds like you’re saying nothing is good enough! What exactly do you want!?** Something from good guys, not bad guys. Something like [Standardnotes](https://standardnotes.com/), but for file storage. They emphasize privacy, good governance principles and longevity of their service. Or [Linode](https://www.linode.com/support-experience/), with their independence, sense of mission, love of Linux & free software, all of which tells me they are good guys.\n
      \n
      Probably the correct answer is (1) here’s this magical perfect source I never thought of, or (2) I’m thinking this much about it, I should probably do Nextcloud or syncthing given all the constraints that I’m putting out there.\n
      \n
      Anyway, that’s my thoughts on cloud storage. What are yours?
      """
    +type: "article"
    +lang: "en"
    +isOc: false
    +hasEmbed: false
    +commentCount: 25
    +favouriteCount: 41
    +score: 0
    +isAdult: false
    +sticky: false
    +lastActive: DateTime @1689719793 {#2414
      date: 2023-07-19 00:36:33.0 +02:00
    }
    +ip: null
    +adaAmount: 0
    +tags: null
    +mentions: null
    +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1884 …}
    +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1973 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1959 …}
    +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1927 …}
    +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2442 …}
    +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2440 …}
    +children: []
    -id: 1294
    -titleTs: "'2022':11 'best':1 'cloud':7 'googl':6 'non':5 'non-googl':4 'option':2 'storag':8"
    -bodyTs: "'-2':23 '/),':451 '/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':77 '/pricing)':123 '/pro)':173 '/support-experience/),':471 '1':22,337,497 '115':240 '2':509 '2tb':88,244 '350':94 '5tb':126 '70':290 '80/year':129 'afford':125 'also':387 'amazon':364 'android':208,333 'answer':495 'anti':179 'anti-googl':178 'anyway':534 'app':209,220,334 'appl':366 'ash':187 'attitud':183 'avoid':301,391 'bad':229,303,348,402,444 'best':8,134 'born':184 'box':406 'break':19 'built':191 'catastroph':275 'close':359 'cloud':9,540 'connect':203 'constraint':527 'correct':265,494 'could':282 'day':13 'deal':135 'death':361 'drap':362 'dropbox':324,404 'emphas':457 'encrypt':182,192 'enough':297,433 'even':33,216,331 'everyth':284,318 'exact':435 'expens':238 'explor':211 'failur':279 'far':73 'feel':5,286 'file':454 'free':307,313,338,379,481 'given':524 'go':353 'good':147,375,432,441,459,490 'googl':180,320,363 'govern':460 'guy':148,304,349,403,442,445,491 'halfway':34 'hear':228 'homebrew':248,259 'ident':140 'idriv':120 'imit':400 'independ':474 'integr':356 'interfac':108 'intrigu':78 'kinda':398 'kinda-sorta':397 'know':103,115 'knowledg':195 'labor':273 'lemmi':3 'lifetim':85 'like':38,175,261,287,426,447 'linod':468 'linux':480 'long':163,419 'long-term':162 'longev':463 'lose':283 'lot':98 'love':106,199,478 'm':27,67,154,289,352,383,409,511,530 'magic':501 'make':161 'mayb':64 'mean':152 'mediafir':326,405 'mega':170,219,328 'mega.io':172 'mega.io/pro)':171 'megaupload':189 'microsoft':365 'might':131 'mind':42 'mission':477 'much':269,413,514 'need':50,217 'netflix':60 'never':505 'nextcloud':262,521 'noth':137,430 'offer':336 'onedr':322 'option':11 'pay':82 'pcloud':74 'peac':40 'per':241 'perfect':502 'person':246 'plan':86,169 'point':277 'potenti':44 'prefer':389 'pretti':237 'price':61 'principl':461 'privaci':458 'probabl':31,492,519 'product':385 'promis':165,421 'put':531 'quit':253 'rang':25,62 're':428 'readi':68 'realli':16 'say':429 'sens':475 'servic':380,466 'setup':260 'singl':276 'smart':296 'softwar':482 'solid':210 'someth':57,65,345,392,439,446 'sorta':399 'sound':425 'sourc':360,503 'space':47 'specif':168,418 'standardnot':448 'standardnotes.com':450 'standardnotes.com/),':449 'storag':10,90,455,541 'stuff':249,308 'subscrib':55 'suggest':141 'super':124 'sure':156,411 'syncth':264,523 'tb':24 'tell':486 'term':164,271,420 'terrabyt':339 'therefor':213 'thing':230 'think':54,512 'though':233 'thought':71,506,538 'thoughts/reasoning/caveats':247 'too-good-to-be-tru':373 'tri':311 'true':378 'trust':118,158,254,416 'upkeep':274 'upstart':395 'usabl':110 'use':257 've':310 'version':314 'want':17,225,344,371,438 'way':293 'would':388 'www.idrive.com':122 'www.idrive.com/pricing)':121 'www.linode.com':470 'www.linode.com/support-experience/),':469 'www.pcloud.com':76 'www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':75 'year':242 'yet':30 'zero':194"
    +cross: false
    +upVotes: 0
    +downVotes: 0
    +ranking: 1642260128
    +visibility: "visible             "
    +apId: "https://lemmy.ml/post/149005"
    +editedAt: null
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1642173728 {#1793
      date: 2022-01-14 16:22:08.0 +01:00
    }
  }
  +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
  +image: null
  +parent: App\Entity\EntryComment {#4739
    +user: App\Entity\User {#4752 …}
    +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419}
    +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
    +image: null
    +parent: null
    +root: null
    +body: "One thing to keep in mind with something like Syncthing is where the physical location of the other machine(s) is. The nice thing about cloud storage is that your data is in an entirely different geographic region, so if there’s a hurricane, flood, fire, etc. your data is still safe. That being said, I use Google drive at the moment so I’ll also be keeping an eye on this post for alternatives."
    +lang: "en"
    +isAdult: false
    +favouriteCount: 14
    +score: 0
    +lastActive: DateTime @1689702185 {#4734
      date: 2023-07-18 19:43:05.0 +02:00
    }
    +ip: null
    +tags: null
    +mentions: [
      "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
    ]
    +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4740 …}
    +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4742 …}
    +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4744 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4746 …}
    +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4748 …}
    +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4750 …}
    -id: 17989
    -bodyTs: "'also':66 'altern':75 'cloud':26 'data':31,49 'differ':36 'drive':59 'entir':35 'etc':47 'eye':70 'fire':46 'flood':45 'geograph':37 'googl':58 'hurrican':44 'keep':4,68 'like':9 'll':65 'locat':15 'machin':19 'mind':6 'moment':62 'nice':23 'one':1 'physic':14 'post':73 'region':38 'safe':52 'said':55 'someth':8 'still':51 'storag':27 'syncth':10 'thing':2,24 'use':57"
    +ranking: 0
    +commentCount: 0
    +upVotes: 0
    +downVotes: 0
    +visibility: "visible             "
    +apId: "https://lemmy.world/comment/1299422"
    +editedAt: null
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689424997 {#4735
      date: 2023-07-15 14:43:17.0 +02:00
    }
  }
  +root: App\Entity\EntryComment {#4739}
  +body: "Similar boat to you. The “perk” of using Google Drive, is that I use it for everything else so it keeps everything in the same place for me."
  +lang: "en"
  +isAdult: false
  +favouriteCount: 0
  +score: 0
  +lastActive: DateTime @1689502735 {#4926
    date: 2023-07-16 12:18:55.0 +02:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +tags: null
  +mentions: [
    "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
    "@roostopher@lemmy.world"
  ]
  +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4930 …}
  +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4932 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4934 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4936 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4938 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4940 …}
  -id: 19650
  -bodyTs: "'boat':2 'drive':10 'els':18 'everyth':17,22 'googl':9 'keep':21 'perk':6 'place':26 'similar':1 'use':8,14"
  +ranking: 0
  +commentCount: 0
  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://feddit.uk/comment/983205"
  +editedAt: null
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689502735 {#4927
    date: 2023-07-16 12:18:55.0 +02:00
  }
}
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
88 DENIED moderate 
App\Entity\EntryComment {#4928
  +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#4929 …}
  +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419
    +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#1970 …}
    +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265
      +icon: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#246 …}
      +name: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +title: "asklemmy"
      +description: """
        A loosely moderated place to ask open-ended questions\n
        \n
        **[Search asklemmy](https://lemmy.ml/search?q=&type=Posts&listingType=All&communityId=8&page=1&sort=TopAll) 🔍**\n
        \n
        If your post meets the following criteria, it’s welcome here!\n
        \n
        1. Open-ended\n
        2. Not offensive: at this point, we do not have the bandwidth to moderate overtly political discussions\n
        3. **Not regarding using or support for Lemmy**: [context](https://lemmy.ml/post/1223478), find help in the list of support alternatives below\n
        4. Not ad nauseam inducing: please make sure it is a question that would be new to most members\n
        5. [An actual topic of discussion](https://lemmy.ml/post/1239589)\n
        \n
        Support alternatives:\n
        \n
        - [!lemmy_support@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/lemmy_support)\n
        - [!nostupidlemmyquestions@lemmy.dbzer0.com](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/nostupidlemmyquestions)\n
        - [!selfhosted@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/selfhosted)\n
        \n
        ~Icon~ ~by~ ~@Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de~
        """
      +rules: null
      +subscriptionsCount: 0
      +entryCount: 580
      +entryCommentCount: 15558
      +postCount: 7
      +postCommentCount: 129
      +isAdult: false
      +customCss: null
      +lastActive: DateTime @1689748304 {#275
        date: 2023-07-19 08:31:44.0 +02:00
      }
      +markedForDeletionAt: null
      +tags: null
      +moderators: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#237 …}
      +ownershipRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#233 …}
      +moderatorRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#222 …}
      +entries: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#180 …}
      +posts: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#138 …}
      +subscriptions: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#200 …}
      +bans: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#117 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#103 …}
      +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#81 …}
      +logs: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#71 …}
      +awards: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1346 …}
      +categories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1823 …}
      -id: 9
      +apId: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +apProfileId: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apPublicUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apFollowersUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy/followers"
      +apInboxUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/inbox"
      +apDomain: "lemmy.ml"
      +apPreferredUsername: "asklemmy"
      +apDiscoverable: true
      +apManuallyApprovesFollowers: null
      +privateKey: null
      +publicKey: null
      +apFetchedAt: DateTime @1689747596 {#269
        date: 2023-07-19 08:19:56.0 +02:00
      }
      +apDeletedAt: null
      +apTimeoutAt: null
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1686889707 {#271
        date: 2023-06-16 06:28:27.0 +02:00
      }
    }
    +image: null
    +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#1915 …}
    +slug: "Best-options-for-Non-Google-cloud-storage-as-of-2022"
    +title: "Best options for Non-Google cloud storage as of 2022?"
    +url: null
    +body: """
      What are Lemmy’s feelings about the best cloud storage options these days, if you really want to break into the 1-2TB range? I’m not there yet, probably not even halfway there, but I like the peace of mind of potentially having the space if I need it. And I think subscribing to something in the Netflix price range is maybe something I’m ready for.\n
      \n
      My thoughts so far:\n
      \n
      [pcloud](https://www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime) - Intriguing because you can pay for a “lifetime” plan of 2TB of storage. But it’s $350, which is a lot, and I don’t know that I love the interface or usability, and I don’t know if I trust them.\n
      \n
      [iDrive](https://www.idrive.com/pricing) - Super affordable. 5tb for “just” $80/year. It might be the best deal, but nothing about their identity suggests to me that they are “good guys.” By which I mean, I’m not sure I trust them to make long-term promises for any specific plan.\n
      \n
      [Mega](https://mega.io/pro) - I like its very anti-google, very encrypted attitude. Born from the ashes of megaupload, they built encryption and zero knowledge into it. I LOVE that you can connect to it through the android app Solid Explorer and therefore don’t even need the mega app if you don’t want it. I hear bad things about it though? And it’s pretty expensive at $115 per year for 2TB.\n
      \n
      My personal thoughts/reasoning/caveats:\n
      \n
      **Homebrew stuff**: I don’t *quite* trust myself to use a homebrew setup like Nextcloud or Syncthing correctly. There’s too much in terms of labor, upkeep, catastrophic single points of failure where you could lose everything. I feel like I’m 70% of the way to being smart enough to do this.\n
      \n
      **Avoiding the Bad Guys and the Free Stuff**: I’ve tried the free version of just about everything, from Google to Onedrive to Dropbox to Mediafire to Mega. There’s even an android app that offers 1 free terrabyte?? But I don’t want something from the bad guys where I’m going to be integrated into their closed source death drap: Google, Amazon, Microsoft, Apple, and I don’t want a too-good-to-be-true free service where I’m the product.\n
      \n
      I also would prefer to avoid something from the upstarts who kinda-sorta imitate the bad guys: Dropbox, Mediafire, Box. Because I’m not sure how much I can trust any specific long term promise from them.\n
      \n
      **It sounds like you’re saying nothing is good enough! What exactly do you want!?** Something from good guys, not bad guys. Something like [Standardnotes](https://standardnotes.com/), but for file storage. They emphasize privacy, good governance principles and longevity of their service. Or [Linode](https://www.linode.com/support-experience/), with their independence, sense of mission, love of Linux & free software, all of which tells me they are good guys.\n
      \n
      Probably the correct answer is (1) here’s this magical perfect source I never thought of, or (2) I’m thinking this much about it, I should probably do Nextcloud or syncthing given all the constraints that I’m putting out there.\n
      \n
      Anyway, that’s my thoughts on cloud storage. What are yours?
      """
    +type: "article"
    +lang: "en"
    +isOc: false
    +hasEmbed: false
    +commentCount: 25
    +favouriteCount: 41
    +score: 0
    +isAdult: false
    +sticky: false
    +lastActive: DateTime @1689719793 {#2414
      date: 2023-07-19 00:36:33.0 +02:00
    }
    +ip: null
    +adaAmount: 0
    +tags: null
    +mentions: null
    +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1884 …}
    +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1973 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1959 …}
    +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1927 …}
    +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2442 …}
    +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2440 …}
    +children: []
    -id: 1294
    -titleTs: "'2022':11 'best':1 'cloud':7 'googl':6 'non':5 'non-googl':4 'option':2 'storag':8"
    -bodyTs: "'-2':23 '/),':451 '/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':77 '/pricing)':123 '/pro)':173 '/support-experience/),':471 '1':22,337,497 '115':240 '2':509 '2tb':88,244 '350':94 '5tb':126 '70':290 '80/year':129 'afford':125 'also':387 'amazon':364 'android':208,333 'answer':495 'anti':179 'anti-googl':178 'anyway':534 'app':209,220,334 'appl':366 'ash':187 'attitud':183 'avoid':301,391 'bad':229,303,348,402,444 'best':8,134 'born':184 'box':406 'break':19 'built':191 'catastroph':275 'close':359 'cloud':9,540 'connect':203 'constraint':527 'correct':265,494 'could':282 'day':13 'deal':135 'death':361 'drap':362 'dropbox':324,404 'emphas':457 'encrypt':182,192 'enough':297,433 'even':33,216,331 'everyth':284,318 'exact':435 'expens':238 'explor':211 'failur':279 'far':73 'feel':5,286 'file':454 'free':307,313,338,379,481 'given':524 'go':353 'good':147,375,432,441,459,490 'googl':180,320,363 'govern':460 'guy':148,304,349,403,442,445,491 'halfway':34 'hear':228 'homebrew':248,259 'ident':140 'idriv':120 'imit':400 'independ':474 'integr':356 'interfac':108 'intrigu':78 'kinda':398 'kinda-sorta':397 'know':103,115 'knowledg':195 'labor':273 'lemmi':3 'lifetim':85 'like':38,175,261,287,426,447 'linod':468 'linux':480 'long':163,419 'long-term':162 'longev':463 'lose':283 'lot':98 'love':106,199,478 'm':27,67,154,289,352,383,409,511,530 'magic':501 'make':161 'mayb':64 'mean':152 'mediafir':326,405 'mega':170,219,328 'mega.io':172 'mega.io/pro)':171 'megaupload':189 'microsoft':365 'might':131 'mind':42 'mission':477 'much':269,413,514 'need':50,217 'netflix':60 'never':505 'nextcloud':262,521 'noth':137,430 'offer':336 'onedr':322 'option':11 'pay':82 'pcloud':74 'peac':40 'per':241 'perfect':502 'person':246 'plan':86,169 'point':277 'potenti':44 'prefer':389 'pretti':237 'price':61 'principl':461 'privaci':458 'probabl':31,492,519 'product':385 'promis':165,421 'put':531 'quit':253 'rang':25,62 're':428 'readi':68 'realli':16 'say':429 'sens':475 'servic':380,466 'setup':260 'singl':276 'smart':296 'softwar':482 'solid':210 'someth':57,65,345,392,439,446 'sorta':399 'sound':425 'sourc':360,503 'space':47 'specif':168,418 'standardnot':448 'standardnotes.com':450 'standardnotes.com/),':449 'storag':10,90,455,541 'stuff':249,308 'subscrib':55 'suggest':141 'super':124 'sure':156,411 'syncth':264,523 'tb':24 'tell':486 'term':164,271,420 'terrabyt':339 'therefor':213 'thing':230 'think':54,512 'though':233 'thought':71,506,538 'thoughts/reasoning/caveats':247 'too-good-to-be-tru':373 'tri':311 'true':378 'trust':118,158,254,416 'upkeep':274 'upstart':395 'usabl':110 'use':257 've':310 'version':314 'want':17,225,344,371,438 'way':293 'would':388 'www.idrive.com':122 'www.idrive.com/pricing)':121 'www.linode.com':470 'www.linode.com/support-experience/),':469 'www.pcloud.com':76 'www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':75 'year':242 'yet':30 'zero':194"
    +cross: false
    +upVotes: 0
    +downVotes: 0
    +ranking: 1642260128
    +visibility: "visible             "
    +apId: "https://lemmy.ml/post/149005"
    +editedAt: null
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1642173728 {#1793
      date: 2022-01-14 16:22:08.0 +01:00
    }
  }
  +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
  +image: null
  +parent: App\Entity\EntryComment {#4739
    +user: App\Entity\User {#4752 …}
    +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419}
    +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
    +image: null
    +parent: null
    +root: null
    +body: "One thing to keep in mind with something like Syncthing is where the physical location of the other machine(s) is. The nice thing about cloud storage is that your data is in an entirely different geographic region, so if there’s a hurricane, flood, fire, etc. your data is still safe. That being said, I use Google drive at the moment so I’ll also be keeping an eye on this post for alternatives."
    +lang: "en"
    +isAdult: false
    +favouriteCount: 14
    +score: 0
    +lastActive: DateTime @1689702185 {#4734
      date: 2023-07-18 19:43:05.0 +02:00
    }
    +ip: null
    +tags: null
    +mentions: [
      "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
    ]
    +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4740 …}
    +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4742 …}
    +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4744 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4746 …}
    +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4748 …}
    +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4750 …}
    -id: 17989
    -bodyTs: "'also':66 'altern':75 'cloud':26 'data':31,49 'differ':36 'drive':59 'entir':35 'etc':47 'eye':70 'fire':46 'flood':45 'geograph':37 'googl':58 'hurrican':44 'keep':4,68 'like':9 'll':65 'locat':15 'machin':19 'mind':6 'moment':62 'nice':23 'one':1 'physic':14 'post':73 'region':38 'safe':52 'said':55 'someth':8 'still':51 'storag':27 'syncth':10 'thing':2,24 'use':57"
    +ranking: 0
    +commentCount: 0
    +upVotes: 0
    +downVotes: 0
    +visibility: "visible             "
    +apId: "https://lemmy.world/comment/1299422"
    +editedAt: null
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689424997 {#4735
      date: 2023-07-15 14:43:17.0 +02:00
    }
  }
  +root: App\Entity\EntryComment {#4739}
  +body: "Similar boat to you. The “perk” of using Google Drive, is that I use it for everything else so it keeps everything in the same place for me."
  +lang: "en"
  +isAdult: false
  +favouriteCount: 0
  +score: 0
  +lastActive: DateTime @1689502735 {#4926
    date: 2023-07-16 12:18:55.0 +02:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +tags: null
  +mentions: [
    "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
    "@roostopher@lemmy.world"
  ]
  +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4930 …}
  +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4932 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4934 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4936 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4938 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4940 …}
  -id: 19650
  -bodyTs: "'boat':2 'drive':10 'els':18 'everyth':17,22 'googl':9 'keep':21 'perk':6 'place':26 'similar':1 'use':8,14"
  +ranking: 0
  +commentCount: 0
  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://feddit.uk/comment/983205"
  +editedAt: null
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689502735 {#4927
    date: 2023-07-16 12:18:55.0 +02:00
  }
}
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
89 DENIED ROLE_USER 
null
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
90 DENIED moderate 
App\Entity\EntryComment {#4812
  +user: App\Entity\User {#4825 …}
  +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419
    +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#1970 …}
    +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265
      +icon: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#246 …}
      +name: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +title: "asklemmy"
      +description: """
        A loosely moderated place to ask open-ended questions\n
        \n
        **[Search asklemmy](https://lemmy.ml/search?q=&type=Posts&listingType=All&communityId=8&page=1&sort=TopAll) 🔍**\n
        \n
        If your post meets the following criteria, it’s welcome here!\n
        \n
        1. Open-ended\n
        2. Not offensive: at this point, we do not have the bandwidth to moderate overtly political discussions\n
        3. **Not regarding using or support for Lemmy**: [context](https://lemmy.ml/post/1223478), find help in the list of support alternatives below\n
        4. Not ad nauseam inducing: please make sure it is a question that would be new to most members\n
        5. [An actual topic of discussion](https://lemmy.ml/post/1239589)\n
        \n
        Support alternatives:\n
        \n
        - [!lemmy_support@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/lemmy_support)\n
        - [!nostupidlemmyquestions@lemmy.dbzer0.com](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/nostupidlemmyquestions)\n
        - [!selfhosted@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/selfhosted)\n
        \n
        ~Icon~ ~by~ ~@Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de~
        """
      +rules: null
      +subscriptionsCount: 0
      +entryCount: 580
      +entryCommentCount: 15558
      +postCount: 7
      +postCommentCount: 129
      +isAdult: false
      +customCss: null
      +lastActive: DateTime @1689748304 {#275
        date: 2023-07-19 08:31:44.0 +02:00
      }
      +markedForDeletionAt: null
      +tags: null
      +moderators: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#237 …}
      +ownershipRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#233 …}
      +moderatorRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#222 …}
      +entries: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#180 …}
      +posts: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#138 …}
      +subscriptions: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#200 …}
      +bans: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#117 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#103 …}
      +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#81 …}
      +logs: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#71 …}
      +awards: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1346 …}
      +categories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1823 …}
      -id: 9
      +apId: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +apProfileId: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apPublicUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apFollowersUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy/followers"
      +apInboxUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/inbox"
      +apDomain: "lemmy.ml"
      +apPreferredUsername: "asklemmy"
      +apDiscoverable: true
      +apManuallyApprovesFollowers: null
      +privateKey: null
      +publicKey: null
      +apFetchedAt: DateTime @1689747596 {#269
        date: 2023-07-19 08:19:56.0 +02:00
      }
      +apDeletedAt: null
      +apTimeoutAt: null
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1686889707 {#271
        date: 2023-06-16 06:28:27.0 +02:00
      }
    }
    +image: null
    +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#1915 …}
    +slug: "Best-options-for-Non-Google-cloud-storage-as-of-2022"
    +title: "Best options for Non-Google cloud storage as of 2022?"
    +url: null
    +body: """
      What are Lemmy’s feelings about the best cloud storage options these days, if you really want to break into the 1-2TB range? I’m not there yet, probably not even halfway there, but I like the peace of mind of potentially having the space if I need it. And I think subscribing to something in the Netflix price range is maybe something I’m ready for.\n
      \n
      My thoughts so far:\n
      \n
      [pcloud](https://www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime) - Intriguing because you can pay for a “lifetime” plan of 2TB of storage. But it’s $350, which is a lot, and I don’t know that I love the interface or usability, and I don’t know if I trust them.\n
      \n
      [iDrive](https://www.idrive.com/pricing) - Super affordable. 5tb for “just” $80/year. It might be the best deal, but nothing about their identity suggests to me that they are “good guys.” By which I mean, I’m not sure I trust them to make long-term promises for any specific plan.\n
      \n
      [Mega](https://mega.io/pro) - I like its very anti-google, very encrypted attitude. Born from the ashes of megaupload, they built encryption and zero knowledge into it. I LOVE that you can connect to it through the android app Solid Explorer and therefore don’t even need the mega app if you don’t want it. I hear bad things about it though? And it’s pretty expensive at $115 per year for 2TB.\n
      \n
      My personal thoughts/reasoning/caveats:\n
      \n
      **Homebrew stuff**: I don’t *quite* trust myself to use a homebrew setup like Nextcloud or Syncthing correctly. There’s too much in terms of labor, upkeep, catastrophic single points of failure where you could lose everything. I feel like I’m 70% of the way to being smart enough to do this.\n
      \n
      **Avoiding the Bad Guys and the Free Stuff**: I’ve tried the free version of just about everything, from Google to Onedrive to Dropbox to Mediafire to Mega. There’s even an android app that offers 1 free terrabyte?? But I don’t want something from the bad guys where I’m going to be integrated into their closed source death drap: Google, Amazon, Microsoft, Apple, and I don’t want a too-good-to-be-true free service where I’m the product.\n
      \n
      I also would prefer to avoid something from the upstarts who kinda-sorta imitate the bad guys: Dropbox, Mediafire, Box. Because I’m not sure how much I can trust any specific long term promise from them.\n
      \n
      **It sounds like you’re saying nothing is good enough! What exactly do you want!?** Something from good guys, not bad guys. Something like [Standardnotes](https://standardnotes.com/), but for file storage. They emphasize privacy, good governance principles and longevity of their service. Or [Linode](https://www.linode.com/support-experience/), with their independence, sense of mission, love of Linux & free software, all of which tells me they are good guys.\n
      \n
      Probably the correct answer is (1) here’s this magical perfect source I never thought of, or (2) I’m thinking this much about it, I should probably do Nextcloud or syncthing given all the constraints that I’m putting out there.\n
      \n
      Anyway, that’s my thoughts on cloud storage. What are yours?
      """
    +type: "article"
    +lang: "en"
    +isOc: false
    +hasEmbed: false
    +commentCount: 25
    +favouriteCount: 41
    +score: 0
    +isAdult: false
    +sticky: false
    +lastActive: DateTime @1689719793 {#2414
      date: 2023-07-19 00:36:33.0 +02:00
    }
    +ip: null
    +adaAmount: 0
    +tags: null
    +mentions: null
    +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1884 …}
    +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1973 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1959 …}
    +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1927 …}
    +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2442 …}
    +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2440 …}
    +children: []
    -id: 1294
    -titleTs: "'2022':11 'best':1 'cloud':7 'googl':6 'non':5 'non-googl':4 'option':2 'storag':8"
    -bodyTs: "'-2':23 '/),':451 '/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':77 '/pricing)':123 '/pro)':173 '/support-experience/),':471 '1':22,337,497 '115':240 '2':509 '2tb':88,244 '350':94 '5tb':126 '70':290 '80/year':129 'afford':125 'also':387 'amazon':364 'android':208,333 'answer':495 'anti':179 'anti-googl':178 'anyway':534 'app':209,220,334 'appl':366 'ash':187 'attitud':183 'avoid':301,391 'bad':229,303,348,402,444 'best':8,134 'born':184 'box':406 'break':19 'built':191 'catastroph':275 'close':359 'cloud':9,540 'connect':203 'constraint':527 'correct':265,494 'could':282 'day':13 'deal':135 'death':361 'drap':362 'dropbox':324,404 'emphas':457 'encrypt':182,192 'enough':297,433 'even':33,216,331 'everyth':284,318 'exact':435 'expens':238 'explor':211 'failur':279 'far':73 'feel':5,286 'file':454 'free':307,313,338,379,481 'given':524 'go':353 'good':147,375,432,441,459,490 'googl':180,320,363 'govern':460 'guy':148,304,349,403,442,445,491 'halfway':34 'hear':228 'homebrew':248,259 'ident':140 'idriv':120 'imit':400 'independ':474 'integr':356 'interfac':108 'intrigu':78 'kinda':398 'kinda-sorta':397 'know':103,115 'knowledg':195 'labor':273 'lemmi':3 'lifetim':85 'like':38,175,261,287,426,447 'linod':468 'linux':480 'long':163,419 'long-term':162 'longev':463 'lose':283 'lot':98 'love':106,199,478 'm':27,67,154,289,352,383,409,511,530 'magic':501 'make':161 'mayb':64 'mean':152 'mediafir':326,405 'mega':170,219,328 'mega.io':172 'mega.io/pro)':171 'megaupload':189 'microsoft':365 'might':131 'mind':42 'mission':477 'much':269,413,514 'need':50,217 'netflix':60 'never':505 'nextcloud':262,521 'noth':137,430 'offer':336 'onedr':322 'option':11 'pay':82 'pcloud':74 'peac':40 'per':241 'perfect':502 'person':246 'plan':86,169 'point':277 'potenti':44 'prefer':389 'pretti':237 'price':61 'principl':461 'privaci':458 'probabl':31,492,519 'product':385 'promis':165,421 'put':531 'quit':253 'rang':25,62 're':428 'readi':68 'realli':16 'say':429 'sens':475 'servic':380,466 'setup':260 'singl':276 'smart':296 'softwar':482 'solid':210 'someth':57,65,345,392,439,446 'sorta':399 'sound':425 'sourc':360,503 'space':47 'specif':168,418 'standardnot':448 'standardnotes.com':450 'standardnotes.com/),':449 'storag':10,90,455,541 'stuff':249,308 'subscrib':55 'suggest':141 'super':124 'sure':156,411 'syncth':264,523 'tb':24 'tell':486 'term':164,271,420 'terrabyt':339 'therefor':213 'thing':230 'think':54,512 'though':233 'thought':71,506,538 'thoughts/reasoning/caveats':247 'too-good-to-be-tru':373 'tri':311 'true':378 'trust':118,158,254,416 'upkeep':274 'upstart':395 'usabl':110 'use':257 've':310 'version':314 'want':17,225,344,371,438 'way':293 'would':388 'www.idrive.com':122 'www.idrive.com/pricing)':121 'www.linode.com':470 'www.linode.com/support-experience/),':469 'www.pcloud.com':76 'www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':75 'year':242 'yet':30 'zero':194"
    +cross: false
    +upVotes: 0
    +downVotes: 0
    +ranking: 1642260128
    +visibility: "visible             "
    +apId: "https://lemmy.ml/post/149005"
    +editedAt: null
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1642173728 {#1793
      date: 2022-01-14 16:22:08.0 +01:00
    }
  }
  +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
  +image: null
  +parent: null
  +root: null
  +body: "Don’t use cloud storage at all, use syncthing. If you really need a lot of disk space, that’s going to be the cheapest anyway."
  +lang: "en"
  +isAdult: false
  +favouriteCount: 8
  +score: 0
  +lastActive: DateTime @1689447147 {#4807
    date: 2023-07-15 20:52:27.0 +02:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +tags: null
  +mentions: [
    "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
  ]
  +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4813 …}
  +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4815 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4817 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4819 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4821 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4823 …}
  -id: 17962
  -bodyTs: "'anyway':26 'cheapest':25 'cloud':4 'disk':17 'go':21 'lot':15 'need':13 'realli':12 'space':18 'storag':5 'syncth':9 'use':3,8"
  +ranking: 0
  +commentCount: 0
  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://lemmy.ml/comment/108718"
  +editedAt: null
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1642197483 {#4808
    date: 2022-01-14 22:58:03.0 +01:00
  }
}
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
91 DENIED edit 
App\Entity\EntryComment {#4812
  +user: App\Entity\User {#4825 …}
  +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419
    +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#1970 …}
    +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265
      +icon: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#246 …}
      +name: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +title: "asklemmy"
      +description: """
        A loosely moderated place to ask open-ended questions\n
        \n
        **[Search asklemmy](https://lemmy.ml/search?q=&type=Posts&listingType=All&communityId=8&page=1&sort=TopAll) 🔍**\n
        \n
        If your post meets the following criteria, it’s welcome here!\n
        \n
        1. Open-ended\n
        2. Not offensive: at this point, we do not have the bandwidth to moderate overtly political discussions\n
        3. **Not regarding using or support for Lemmy**: [context](https://lemmy.ml/post/1223478), find help in the list of support alternatives below\n
        4. Not ad nauseam inducing: please make sure it is a question that would be new to most members\n
        5. [An actual topic of discussion](https://lemmy.ml/post/1239589)\n
        \n
        Support alternatives:\n
        \n
        - [!lemmy_support@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/lemmy_support)\n
        - [!nostupidlemmyquestions@lemmy.dbzer0.com](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/nostupidlemmyquestions)\n
        - [!selfhosted@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/selfhosted)\n
        \n
        ~Icon~ ~by~ ~@Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de~
        """
      +rules: null
      +subscriptionsCount: 0
      +entryCount: 580
      +entryCommentCount: 15558
      +postCount: 7
      +postCommentCount: 129
      +isAdult: false
      +customCss: null
      +lastActive: DateTime @1689748304 {#275
        date: 2023-07-19 08:31:44.0 +02:00
      }
      +markedForDeletionAt: null
      +tags: null
      +moderators: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#237 …}
      +ownershipRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#233 …}
      +moderatorRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#222 …}
      +entries: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#180 …}
      +posts: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#138 …}
      +subscriptions: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#200 …}
      +bans: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#117 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#103 …}
      +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#81 …}
      +logs: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#71 …}
      +awards: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1346 …}
      +categories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1823 …}
      -id: 9
      +apId: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +apProfileId: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apPublicUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apFollowersUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy/followers"
      +apInboxUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/inbox"
      +apDomain: "lemmy.ml"
      +apPreferredUsername: "asklemmy"
      +apDiscoverable: true
      +apManuallyApprovesFollowers: null
      +privateKey: null
      +publicKey: null
      +apFetchedAt: DateTime @1689747596 {#269
        date: 2023-07-19 08:19:56.0 +02:00
      }
      +apDeletedAt: null
      +apTimeoutAt: null
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1686889707 {#271
        date: 2023-06-16 06:28:27.0 +02:00
      }
    }
    +image: null
    +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#1915 …}
    +slug: "Best-options-for-Non-Google-cloud-storage-as-of-2022"
    +title: "Best options for Non-Google cloud storage as of 2022?"
    +url: null
    +body: """
      What are Lemmy’s feelings about the best cloud storage options these days, if you really want to break into the 1-2TB range? I’m not there yet, probably not even halfway there, but I like the peace of mind of potentially having the space if I need it. And I think subscribing to something in the Netflix price range is maybe something I’m ready for.\n
      \n
      My thoughts so far:\n
      \n
      [pcloud](https://www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime) - Intriguing because you can pay for a “lifetime” plan of 2TB of storage. But it’s $350, which is a lot, and I don’t know that I love the interface or usability, and I don’t know if I trust them.\n
      \n
      [iDrive](https://www.idrive.com/pricing) - Super affordable. 5tb for “just” $80/year. It might be the best deal, but nothing about their identity suggests to me that they are “good guys.” By which I mean, I’m not sure I trust them to make long-term promises for any specific plan.\n
      \n
      [Mega](https://mega.io/pro) - I like its very anti-google, very encrypted attitude. Born from the ashes of megaupload, they built encryption and zero knowledge into it. I LOVE that you can connect to it through the android app Solid Explorer and therefore don’t even need the mega app if you don’t want it. I hear bad things about it though? And it’s pretty expensive at $115 per year for 2TB.\n
      \n
      My personal thoughts/reasoning/caveats:\n
      \n
      **Homebrew stuff**: I don’t *quite* trust myself to use a homebrew setup like Nextcloud or Syncthing correctly. There’s too much in terms of labor, upkeep, catastrophic single points of failure where you could lose everything. I feel like I’m 70% of the way to being smart enough to do this.\n
      \n
      **Avoiding the Bad Guys and the Free Stuff**: I’ve tried the free version of just about everything, from Google to Onedrive to Dropbox to Mediafire to Mega. There’s even an android app that offers 1 free terrabyte?? But I don’t want something from the bad guys where I’m going to be integrated into their closed source death drap: Google, Amazon, Microsoft, Apple, and I don’t want a too-good-to-be-true free service where I’m the product.\n
      \n
      I also would prefer to avoid something from the upstarts who kinda-sorta imitate the bad guys: Dropbox, Mediafire, Box. Because I’m not sure how much I can trust any specific long term promise from them.\n
      \n
      **It sounds like you’re saying nothing is good enough! What exactly do you want!?** Something from good guys, not bad guys. Something like [Standardnotes](https://standardnotes.com/), but for file storage. They emphasize privacy, good governance principles and longevity of their service. Or [Linode](https://www.linode.com/support-experience/), with their independence, sense of mission, love of Linux & free software, all of which tells me they are good guys.\n
      \n
      Probably the correct answer is (1) here’s this magical perfect source I never thought of, or (2) I’m thinking this much about it, I should probably do Nextcloud or syncthing given all the constraints that I’m putting out there.\n
      \n
      Anyway, that’s my thoughts on cloud storage. What are yours?
      """
    +type: "article"
    +lang: "en"
    +isOc: false
    +hasEmbed: false
    +commentCount: 25
    +favouriteCount: 41
    +score: 0
    +isAdult: false
    +sticky: false
    +lastActive: DateTime @1689719793 {#2414
      date: 2023-07-19 00:36:33.0 +02:00
    }
    +ip: null
    +adaAmount: 0
    +tags: null
    +mentions: null
    +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1884 …}
    +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1973 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1959 …}
    +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1927 …}
    +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2442 …}
    +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2440 …}
    +children: []
    -id: 1294
    -titleTs: "'2022':11 'best':1 'cloud':7 'googl':6 'non':5 'non-googl':4 'option':2 'storag':8"
    -bodyTs: "'-2':23 '/),':451 '/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':77 '/pricing)':123 '/pro)':173 '/support-experience/),':471 '1':22,337,497 '115':240 '2':509 '2tb':88,244 '350':94 '5tb':126 '70':290 '80/year':129 'afford':125 'also':387 'amazon':364 'android':208,333 'answer':495 'anti':179 'anti-googl':178 'anyway':534 'app':209,220,334 'appl':366 'ash':187 'attitud':183 'avoid':301,391 'bad':229,303,348,402,444 'best':8,134 'born':184 'box':406 'break':19 'built':191 'catastroph':275 'close':359 'cloud':9,540 'connect':203 'constraint':527 'correct':265,494 'could':282 'day':13 'deal':135 'death':361 'drap':362 'dropbox':324,404 'emphas':457 'encrypt':182,192 'enough':297,433 'even':33,216,331 'everyth':284,318 'exact':435 'expens':238 'explor':211 'failur':279 'far':73 'feel':5,286 'file':454 'free':307,313,338,379,481 'given':524 'go':353 'good':147,375,432,441,459,490 'googl':180,320,363 'govern':460 'guy':148,304,349,403,442,445,491 'halfway':34 'hear':228 'homebrew':248,259 'ident':140 'idriv':120 'imit':400 'independ':474 'integr':356 'interfac':108 'intrigu':78 'kinda':398 'kinda-sorta':397 'know':103,115 'knowledg':195 'labor':273 'lemmi':3 'lifetim':85 'like':38,175,261,287,426,447 'linod':468 'linux':480 'long':163,419 'long-term':162 'longev':463 'lose':283 'lot':98 'love':106,199,478 'm':27,67,154,289,352,383,409,511,530 'magic':501 'make':161 'mayb':64 'mean':152 'mediafir':326,405 'mega':170,219,328 'mega.io':172 'mega.io/pro)':171 'megaupload':189 'microsoft':365 'might':131 'mind':42 'mission':477 'much':269,413,514 'need':50,217 'netflix':60 'never':505 'nextcloud':262,521 'noth':137,430 'offer':336 'onedr':322 'option':11 'pay':82 'pcloud':74 'peac':40 'per':241 'perfect':502 'person':246 'plan':86,169 'point':277 'potenti':44 'prefer':389 'pretti':237 'price':61 'principl':461 'privaci':458 'probabl':31,492,519 'product':385 'promis':165,421 'put':531 'quit':253 'rang':25,62 're':428 'readi':68 'realli':16 'say':429 'sens':475 'servic':380,466 'setup':260 'singl':276 'smart':296 'softwar':482 'solid':210 'someth':57,65,345,392,439,446 'sorta':399 'sound':425 'sourc':360,503 'space':47 'specif':168,418 'standardnot':448 'standardnotes.com':450 'standardnotes.com/),':449 'storag':10,90,455,541 'stuff':249,308 'subscrib':55 'suggest':141 'super':124 'sure':156,411 'syncth':264,523 'tb':24 'tell':486 'term':164,271,420 'terrabyt':339 'therefor':213 'thing':230 'think':54,512 'though':233 'thought':71,506,538 'thoughts/reasoning/caveats':247 'too-good-to-be-tru':373 'tri':311 'true':378 'trust':118,158,254,416 'upkeep':274 'upstart':395 'usabl':110 'use':257 've':310 'version':314 'want':17,225,344,371,438 'way':293 'would':388 'www.idrive.com':122 'www.idrive.com/pricing)':121 'www.linode.com':470 'www.linode.com/support-experience/),':469 'www.pcloud.com':76 'www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':75 'year':242 'yet':30 'zero':194"
    +cross: false
    +upVotes: 0
    +downVotes: 0
    +ranking: 1642260128
    +visibility: "visible             "
    +apId: "https://lemmy.ml/post/149005"
    +editedAt: null
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1642173728 {#1793
      date: 2022-01-14 16:22:08.0 +01:00
    }
  }
  +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
  +image: null
  +parent: null
  +root: null
  +body: "Don’t use cloud storage at all, use syncthing. If you really need a lot of disk space, that’s going to be the cheapest anyway."
  +lang: "en"
  +isAdult: false
  +favouriteCount: 8
  +score: 0
  +lastActive: DateTime @1689447147 {#4807
    date: 2023-07-15 20:52:27.0 +02:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +tags: null
  +mentions: [
    "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
  ]
  +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4813 …}
  +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4815 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4817 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4819 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4821 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4823 …}
  -id: 17962
  -bodyTs: "'anyway':26 'cheapest':25 'cloud':4 'disk':17 'go':21 'lot':15 'need':13 'realli':12 'space':18 'storag':5 'syncth':9 'use':3,8"
  +ranking: 0
  +commentCount: 0
  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://lemmy.ml/comment/108718"
  +editedAt: null
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1642197483 {#4808
    date: 2022-01-14 22:58:03.0 +01:00
  }
}
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
92 DENIED moderate 
App\Entity\EntryComment {#4812
  +user: App\Entity\User {#4825 …}
  +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419
    +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#1970 …}
    +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265
      +icon: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#246 …}
      +name: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +title: "asklemmy"
      +description: """
        A loosely moderated place to ask open-ended questions\n
        \n
        **[Search asklemmy](https://lemmy.ml/search?q=&type=Posts&listingType=All&communityId=8&page=1&sort=TopAll) 🔍**\n
        \n
        If your post meets the following criteria, it’s welcome here!\n
        \n
        1. Open-ended\n
        2. Not offensive: at this point, we do not have the bandwidth to moderate overtly political discussions\n
        3. **Not regarding using or support for Lemmy**: [context](https://lemmy.ml/post/1223478), find help in the list of support alternatives below\n
        4. Not ad nauseam inducing: please make sure it is a question that would be new to most members\n
        5. [An actual topic of discussion](https://lemmy.ml/post/1239589)\n
        \n
        Support alternatives:\n
        \n
        - [!lemmy_support@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/lemmy_support)\n
        - [!nostupidlemmyquestions@lemmy.dbzer0.com](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/nostupidlemmyquestions)\n
        - [!selfhosted@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/selfhosted)\n
        \n
        ~Icon~ ~by~ ~@Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de~
        """
      +rules: null
      +subscriptionsCount: 0
      +entryCount: 580
      +entryCommentCount: 15558
      +postCount: 7
      +postCommentCount: 129
      +isAdult: false
      +customCss: null
      +lastActive: DateTime @1689748304 {#275
        date: 2023-07-19 08:31:44.0 +02:00
      }
      +markedForDeletionAt: null
      +tags: null
      +moderators: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#237 …}
      +ownershipRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#233 …}
      +moderatorRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#222 …}
      +entries: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#180 …}
      +posts: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#138 …}
      +subscriptions: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#200 …}
      +bans: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#117 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#103 …}
      +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#81 …}
      +logs: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#71 …}
      +awards: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1346 …}
      +categories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1823 …}
      -id: 9
      +apId: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +apProfileId: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apPublicUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apFollowersUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy/followers"
      +apInboxUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/inbox"
      +apDomain: "lemmy.ml"
      +apPreferredUsername: "asklemmy"
      +apDiscoverable: true
      +apManuallyApprovesFollowers: null
      +privateKey: null
      +publicKey: null
      +apFetchedAt: DateTime @1689747596 {#269
        date: 2023-07-19 08:19:56.0 +02:00
      }
      +apDeletedAt: null
      +apTimeoutAt: null
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1686889707 {#271
        date: 2023-06-16 06:28:27.0 +02:00
      }
    }
    +image: null
    +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#1915 …}
    +slug: "Best-options-for-Non-Google-cloud-storage-as-of-2022"
    +title: "Best options for Non-Google cloud storage as of 2022?"
    +url: null
    +body: """
      What are Lemmy’s feelings about the best cloud storage options these days, if you really want to break into the 1-2TB range? I’m not there yet, probably not even halfway there, but I like the peace of mind of potentially having the space if I need it. And I think subscribing to something in the Netflix price range is maybe something I’m ready for.\n
      \n
      My thoughts so far:\n
      \n
      [pcloud](https://www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime) - Intriguing because you can pay for a “lifetime” plan of 2TB of storage. But it’s $350, which is a lot, and I don’t know that I love the interface or usability, and I don’t know if I trust them.\n
      \n
      [iDrive](https://www.idrive.com/pricing) - Super affordable. 5tb for “just” $80/year. It might be the best deal, but nothing about their identity suggests to me that they are “good guys.” By which I mean, I’m not sure I trust them to make long-term promises for any specific plan.\n
      \n
      [Mega](https://mega.io/pro) - I like its very anti-google, very encrypted attitude. Born from the ashes of megaupload, they built encryption and zero knowledge into it. I LOVE that you can connect to it through the android app Solid Explorer and therefore don’t even need the mega app if you don’t want it. I hear bad things about it though? And it’s pretty expensive at $115 per year for 2TB.\n
      \n
      My personal thoughts/reasoning/caveats:\n
      \n
      **Homebrew stuff**: I don’t *quite* trust myself to use a homebrew setup like Nextcloud or Syncthing correctly. There’s too much in terms of labor, upkeep, catastrophic single points of failure where you could lose everything. I feel like I’m 70% of the way to being smart enough to do this.\n
      \n
      **Avoiding the Bad Guys and the Free Stuff**: I’ve tried the free version of just about everything, from Google to Onedrive to Dropbox to Mediafire to Mega. There’s even an android app that offers 1 free terrabyte?? But I don’t want something from the bad guys where I’m going to be integrated into their closed source death drap: Google, Amazon, Microsoft, Apple, and I don’t want a too-good-to-be-true free service where I’m the product.\n
      \n
      I also would prefer to avoid something from the upstarts who kinda-sorta imitate the bad guys: Dropbox, Mediafire, Box. Because I’m not sure how much I can trust any specific long term promise from them.\n
      \n
      **It sounds like you’re saying nothing is good enough! What exactly do you want!?** Something from good guys, not bad guys. Something like [Standardnotes](https://standardnotes.com/), but for file storage. They emphasize privacy, good governance principles and longevity of their service. Or [Linode](https://www.linode.com/support-experience/), with their independence, sense of mission, love of Linux & free software, all of which tells me they are good guys.\n
      \n
      Probably the correct answer is (1) here’s this magical perfect source I never thought of, or (2) I’m thinking this much about it, I should probably do Nextcloud or syncthing given all the constraints that I’m putting out there.\n
      \n
      Anyway, that’s my thoughts on cloud storage. What are yours?
      """
    +type: "article"
    +lang: "en"
    +isOc: false
    +hasEmbed: false
    +commentCount: 25
    +favouriteCount: 41
    +score: 0
    +isAdult: false
    +sticky: false
    +lastActive: DateTime @1689719793 {#2414
      date: 2023-07-19 00:36:33.0 +02:00
    }
    +ip: null
    +adaAmount: 0
    +tags: null
    +mentions: null
    +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1884 …}
    +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1973 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1959 …}
    +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1927 …}
    +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2442 …}
    +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2440 …}
    +children: []
    -id: 1294
    -titleTs: "'2022':11 'best':1 'cloud':7 'googl':6 'non':5 'non-googl':4 'option':2 'storag':8"
    -bodyTs: "'-2':23 '/),':451 '/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':77 '/pricing)':123 '/pro)':173 '/support-experience/),':471 '1':22,337,497 '115':240 '2':509 '2tb':88,244 '350':94 '5tb':126 '70':290 '80/year':129 'afford':125 'also':387 'amazon':364 'android':208,333 'answer':495 'anti':179 'anti-googl':178 'anyway':534 'app':209,220,334 'appl':366 'ash':187 'attitud':183 'avoid':301,391 'bad':229,303,348,402,444 'best':8,134 'born':184 'box':406 'break':19 'built':191 'catastroph':275 'close':359 'cloud':9,540 'connect':203 'constraint':527 'correct':265,494 'could':282 'day':13 'deal':135 'death':361 'drap':362 'dropbox':324,404 'emphas':457 'encrypt':182,192 'enough':297,433 'even':33,216,331 'everyth':284,318 'exact':435 'expens':238 'explor':211 'failur':279 'far':73 'feel':5,286 'file':454 'free':307,313,338,379,481 'given':524 'go':353 'good':147,375,432,441,459,490 'googl':180,320,363 'govern':460 'guy':148,304,349,403,442,445,491 'halfway':34 'hear':228 'homebrew':248,259 'ident':140 'idriv':120 'imit':400 'independ':474 'integr':356 'interfac':108 'intrigu':78 'kinda':398 'kinda-sorta':397 'know':103,115 'knowledg':195 'labor':273 'lemmi':3 'lifetim':85 'like':38,175,261,287,426,447 'linod':468 'linux':480 'long':163,419 'long-term':162 'longev':463 'lose':283 'lot':98 'love':106,199,478 'm':27,67,154,289,352,383,409,511,530 'magic':501 'make':161 'mayb':64 'mean':152 'mediafir':326,405 'mega':170,219,328 'mega.io':172 'mega.io/pro)':171 'megaupload':189 'microsoft':365 'might':131 'mind':42 'mission':477 'much':269,413,514 'need':50,217 'netflix':60 'never':505 'nextcloud':262,521 'noth':137,430 'offer':336 'onedr':322 'option':11 'pay':82 'pcloud':74 'peac':40 'per':241 'perfect':502 'person':246 'plan':86,169 'point':277 'potenti':44 'prefer':389 'pretti':237 'price':61 'principl':461 'privaci':458 'probabl':31,492,519 'product':385 'promis':165,421 'put':531 'quit':253 'rang':25,62 're':428 'readi':68 'realli':16 'say':429 'sens':475 'servic':380,466 'setup':260 'singl':276 'smart':296 'softwar':482 'solid':210 'someth':57,65,345,392,439,446 'sorta':399 'sound':425 'sourc':360,503 'space':47 'specif':168,418 'standardnot':448 'standardnotes.com':450 'standardnotes.com/),':449 'storag':10,90,455,541 'stuff':249,308 'subscrib':55 'suggest':141 'super':124 'sure':156,411 'syncth':264,523 'tb':24 'tell':486 'term':164,271,420 'terrabyt':339 'therefor':213 'thing':230 'think':54,512 'though':233 'thought':71,506,538 'thoughts/reasoning/caveats':247 'too-good-to-be-tru':373 'tri':311 'true':378 'trust':118,158,254,416 'upkeep':274 'upstart':395 'usabl':110 'use':257 've':310 'version':314 'want':17,225,344,371,438 'way':293 'would':388 'www.idrive.com':122 'www.idrive.com/pricing)':121 'www.linode.com':470 'www.linode.com/support-experience/),':469 'www.pcloud.com':76 'www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':75 'year':242 'yet':30 'zero':194"
    +cross: false
    +upVotes: 0
    +downVotes: 0
    +ranking: 1642260128
    +visibility: "visible             "
    +apId: "https://lemmy.ml/post/149005"
    +editedAt: null
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1642173728 {#1793
      date: 2022-01-14 16:22:08.0 +01:00
    }
  }
  +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
  +image: null
  +parent: null
  +root: null
  +body: "Don’t use cloud storage at all, use syncthing. If you really need a lot of disk space, that’s going to be the cheapest anyway."
  +lang: "en"
  +isAdult: false
  +favouriteCount: 8
  +score: 0
  +lastActive: DateTime @1689447147 {#4807
    date: 2023-07-15 20:52:27.0 +02:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +tags: null
  +mentions: [
    "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
  ]
  +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4813 …}
  +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4815 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4817 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4819 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4821 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4823 …}
  -id: 17962
  -bodyTs: "'anyway':26 'cheapest':25 'cloud':4 'disk':17 'go':21 'lot':15 'need':13 'realli':12 'space':18 'storag':5 'syncth':9 'use':3,8"
  +ranking: 0
  +commentCount: 0
  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://lemmy.ml/comment/108718"
  +editedAt: null
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1642197483 {#4808
    date: 2022-01-14 22:58:03.0 +01:00
  }
}
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
93 DENIED ROLE_USER 
null
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
94 DENIED moderate 
App\Entity\EntryComment {#4901
  +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#4894 …}
  +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419
    +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#1970 …}
    +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265
      +icon: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#246 …}
      +name: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +title: "asklemmy"
      +description: """
        A loosely moderated place to ask open-ended questions\n
        \n
        **[Search asklemmy](https://lemmy.ml/search?q=&type=Posts&listingType=All&communityId=8&page=1&sort=TopAll) 🔍**\n
        \n
        If your post meets the following criteria, it’s welcome here!\n
        \n
        1. Open-ended\n
        2. Not offensive: at this point, we do not have the bandwidth to moderate overtly political discussions\n
        3. **Not regarding using or support for Lemmy**: [context](https://lemmy.ml/post/1223478), find help in the list of support alternatives below\n
        4. Not ad nauseam inducing: please make sure it is a question that would be new to most members\n
        5. [An actual topic of discussion](https://lemmy.ml/post/1239589)\n
        \n
        Support alternatives:\n
        \n
        - [!lemmy_support@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/lemmy_support)\n
        - [!nostupidlemmyquestions@lemmy.dbzer0.com](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/nostupidlemmyquestions)\n
        - [!selfhosted@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/selfhosted)\n
        \n
        ~Icon~ ~by~ ~@Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de~
        """
      +rules: null
      +subscriptionsCount: 0
      +entryCount: 580
      +entryCommentCount: 15558
      +postCount: 7
      +postCommentCount: 129
      +isAdult: false
      +customCss: null
      +lastActive: DateTime @1689748304 {#275
        date: 2023-07-19 08:31:44.0 +02:00
      }
      +markedForDeletionAt: null
      +tags: null
      +moderators: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#237 …}
      +ownershipRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#233 …}
      +moderatorRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#222 …}
      +entries: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#180 …}
      +posts: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#138 …}
      +subscriptions: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#200 …}
      +bans: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#117 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#103 …}
      +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#81 …}
      +logs: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#71 …}
      +awards: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1346 …}
      +categories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1823 …}
      -id: 9
      +apId: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +apProfileId: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apPublicUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apFollowersUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy/followers"
      +apInboxUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/inbox"
      +apDomain: "lemmy.ml"
      +apPreferredUsername: "asklemmy"
      +apDiscoverable: true
      +apManuallyApprovesFollowers: null
      +privateKey: null
      +publicKey: null
      +apFetchedAt: DateTime @1689747596 {#269
        date: 2023-07-19 08:19:56.0 +02:00
      }
      +apDeletedAt: null
      +apTimeoutAt: null
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1686889707 {#271
        date: 2023-06-16 06:28:27.0 +02:00
      }
    }
    +image: null
    +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#1915 …}
    +slug: "Best-options-for-Non-Google-cloud-storage-as-of-2022"
    +title: "Best options for Non-Google cloud storage as of 2022?"
    +url: null
    +body: """
      What are Lemmy’s feelings about the best cloud storage options these days, if you really want to break into the 1-2TB range? I’m not there yet, probably not even halfway there, but I like the peace of mind of potentially having the space if I need it. And I think subscribing to something in the Netflix price range is maybe something I’m ready for.\n
      \n
      My thoughts so far:\n
      \n
      [pcloud](https://www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime) - Intriguing because you can pay for a “lifetime” plan of 2TB of storage. But it’s $350, which is a lot, and I don’t know that I love the interface or usability, and I don’t know if I trust them.\n
      \n
      [iDrive](https://www.idrive.com/pricing) - Super affordable. 5tb for “just” $80/year. It might be the best deal, but nothing about their identity suggests to me that they are “good guys.” By which I mean, I’m not sure I trust them to make long-term promises for any specific plan.\n
      \n
      [Mega](https://mega.io/pro) - I like its very anti-google, very encrypted attitude. Born from the ashes of megaupload, they built encryption and zero knowledge into it. I LOVE that you can connect to it through the android app Solid Explorer and therefore don’t even need the mega app if you don’t want it. I hear bad things about it though? And it’s pretty expensive at $115 per year for 2TB.\n
      \n
      My personal thoughts/reasoning/caveats:\n
      \n
      **Homebrew stuff**: I don’t *quite* trust myself to use a homebrew setup like Nextcloud or Syncthing correctly. There’s too much in terms of labor, upkeep, catastrophic single points of failure where you could lose everything. I feel like I’m 70% of the way to being smart enough to do this.\n
      \n
      **Avoiding the Bad Guys and the Free Stuff**: I’ve tried the free version of just about everything, from Google to Onedrive to Dropbox to Mediafire to Mega. There’s even an android app that offers 1 free terrabyte?? But I don’t want something from the bad guys where I’m going to be integrated into their closed source death drap: Google, Amazon, Microsoft, Apple, and I don’t want a too-good-to-be-true free service where I’m the product.\n
      \n
      I also would prefer to avoid something from the upstarts who kinda-sorta imitate the bad guys: Dropbox, Mediafire, Box. Because I’m not sure how much I can trust any specific long term promise from them.\n
      \n
      **It sounds like you’re saying nothing is good enough! What exactly do you want!?** Something from good guys, not bad guys. Something like [Standardnotes](https://standardnotes.com/), but for file storage. They emphasize privacy, good governance principles and longevity of their service. Or [Linode](https://www.linode.com/support-experience/), with their independence, sense of mission, love of Linux & free software, all of which tells me they are good guys.\n
      \n
      Probably the correct answer is (1) here’s this magical perfect source I never thought of, or (2) I’m thinking this much about it, I should probably do Nextcloud or syncthing given all the constraints that I’m putting out there.\n
      \n
      Anyway, that’s my thoughts on cloud storage. What are yours?
      """
    +type: "article"
    +lang: "en"
    +isOc: false
    +hasEmbed: false
    +commentCount: 25
    +favouriteCount: 41
    +score: 0
    +isAdult: false
    +sticky: false
    +lastActive: DateTime @1689719793 {#2414
      date: 2023-07-19 00:36:33.0 +02:00
    }
    +ip: null
    +adaAmount: 0
    +tags: null
    +mentions: null
    +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1884 …}
    +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1973 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1959 …}
    +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1927 …}
    +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2442 …}
    +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2440 …}
    +children: []
    -id: 1294
    -titleTs: "'2022':11 'best':1 'cloud':7 'googl':6 'non':5 'non-googl':4 'option':2 'storag':8"
    -bodyTs: "'-2':23 '/),':451 '/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':77 '/pricing)':123 '/pro)':173 '/support-experience/),':471 '1':22,337,497 '115':240 '2':509 '2tb':88,244 '350':94 '5tb':126 '70':290 '80/year':129 'afford':125 'also':387 'amazon':364 'android':208,333 'answer':495 'anti':179 'anti-googl':178 'anyway':534 'app':209,220,334 'appl':366 'ash':187 'attitud':183 'avoid':301,391 'bad':229,303,348,402,444 'best':8,134 'born':184 'box':406 'break':19 'built':191 'catastroph':275 'close':359 'cloud':9,540 'connect':203 'constraint':527 'correct':265,494 'could':282 'day':13 'deal':135 'death':361 'drap':362 'dropbox':324,404 'emphas':457 'encrypt':182,192 'enough':297,433 'even':33,216,331 'everyth':284,318 'exact':435 'expens':238 'explor':211 'failur':279 'far':73 'feel':5,286 'file':454 'free':307,313,338,379,481 'given':524 'go':353 'good':147,375,432,441,459,490 'googl':180,320,363 'govern':460 'guy':148,304,349,403,442,445,491 'halfway':34 'hear':228 'homebrew':248,259 'ident':140 'idriv':120 'imit':400 'independ':474 'integr':356 'interfac':108 'intrigu':78 'kinda':398 'kinda-sorta':397 'know':103,115 'knowledg':195 'labor':273 'lemmi':3 'lifetim':85 'like':38,175,261,287,426,447 'linod':468 'linux':480 'long':163,419 'long-term':162 'longev':463 'lose':283 'lot':98 'love':106,199,478 'm':27,67,154,289,352,383,409,511,530 'magic':501 'make':161 'mayb':64 'mean':152 'mediafir':326,405 'mega':170,219,328 'mega.io':172 'mega.io/pro)':171 'megaupload':189 'microsoft':365 'might':131 'mind':42 'mission':477 'much':269,413,514 'need':50,217 'netflix':60 'never':505 'nextcloud':262,521 'noth':137,430 'offer':336 'onedr':322 'option':11 'pay':82 'pcloud':74 'peac':40 'per':241 'perfect':502 'person':246 'plan':86,169 'point':277 'potenti':44 'prefer':389 'pretti':237 'price':61 'principl':461 'privaci':458 'probabl':31,492,519 'product':385 'promis':165,421 'put':531 'quit':253 'rang':25,62 're':428 'readi':68 'realli':16 'say':429 'sens':475 'servic':380,466 'setup':260 'singl':276 'smart':296 'softwar':482 'solid':210 'someth':57,65,345,392,439,446 'sorta':399 'sound':425 'sourc':360,503 'space':47 'specif':168,418 'standardnot':448 'standardnotes.com':450 'standardnotes.com/),':449 'storag':10,90,455,541 'stuff':249,308 'subscrib':55 'suggest':141 'super':124 'sure':156,411 'syncth':264,523 'tb':24 'tell':486 'term':164,271,420 'terrabyt':339 'therefor':213 'thing':230 'think':54,512 'though':233 'thought':71,506,538 'thoughts/reasoning/caveats':247 'too-good-to-be-tru':373 'tri':311 'true':378 'trust':118,158,254,416 'upkeep':274 'upstart':395 'usabl':110 'use':257 've':310 'version':314 'want':17,225,344,371,438 'way':293 'would':388 'www.idrive.com':122 'www.idrive.com/pricing)':121 'www.linode.com':470 'www.linode.com/support-experience/),':469 'www.pcloud.com':76 'www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':75 'year':242 'yet':30 'zero':194"
    +cross: false
    +upVotes: 0
    +downVotes: 0
    +ranking: 1642260128
    +visibility: "visible             "
    +apId: "https://lemmy.ml/post/149005"
    +editedAt: null
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1642173728 {#1793
      date: 2022-01-14 16:22:08.0 +01:00
    }
  }
  +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
  +image: null
  +parent: App\Entity\EntryComment {#4812
    +user: App\Entity\User {#4825 …}
    +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419}
    +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
    +image: null
    +parent: null
    +root: null
    +body: "Don’t use cloud storage at all, use syncthing. If you really need a lot of disk space, that’s going to be the cheapest anyway."
    +lang: "en"
    +isAdult: false
    +favouriteCount: 8
    +score: 0
    +lastActive: DateTime @1689447147 {#4807
      date: 2023-07-15 20:52:27.0 +02:00
    }
    +ip: null
    +tags: null
    +mentions: [
      "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
    ]
    +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4813 …}
    +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4815 …}
    +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4817 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4819 …}
    +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4821 …}
    +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4823 …}
    -id: 17962
    -bodyTs: "'anyway':26 'cheapest':25 'cloud':4 'disk':17 'go':21 'lot':15 'need':13 'realli':12 'space':18 'storag':5 'syncth':9 'use':3,8"
    +ranking: 0
    +commentCount: 0
    +upVotes: 0
    +downVotes: 0
    +visibility: "visible             "
    +apId: "https://lemmy.ml/comment/108718"
    +editedAt: null
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1642197483 {#4808
      date: 2022-01-14 22:58:03.0 +01:00
    }
  }
  +root: App\Entity\EntryComment {#4812}
  +body: "What’s the difference between syncthing and just setting up a NAS? basically just not having to buy the hardware and using the computer you already have?"
  +lang: "en"
  +isAdult: false
  +favouriteCount: 2
  +score: 0
  +lastActive: DateTime @1689439072 {#4902
    date: 2023-07-15 18:37:52.0 +02:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +tags: null
  +mentions: [
    "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
    "@dessalines@lemmy.ml"
  ]
  +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4893 …}
  +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4891 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4889 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4904 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4906 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4908 …}
  -id: 18350
  -bodyTs: "'alreadi':26 'basic':13 'buy':18 'comput':24 'differ':4 'hardwar':20 'nas':12 'set':9 'syncth':6 'use':22"
  +ranking: 0
  +commentCount: 0
  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://lemdro.id/comment/359872"
  +editedAt: null
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689439072 {#4899
    date: 2023-07-15 18:37:52.0 +02:00
  }
}
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
95 DENIED edit 
App\Entity\EntryComment {#4901
  +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#4894 …}
  +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419
    +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#1970 …}
    +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265
      +icon: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#246 …}
      +name: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +title: "asklemmy"
      +description: """
        A loosely moderated place to ask open-ended questions\n
        \n
        **[Search asklemmy](https://lemmy.ml/search?q=&type=Posts&listingType=All&communityId=8&page=1&sort=TopAll) 🔍**\n
        \n
        If your post meets the following criteria, it’s welcome here!\n
        \n
        1. Open-ended\n
        2. Not offensive: at this point, we do not have the bandwidth to moderate overtly political discussions\n
        3. **Not regarding using or support for Lemmy**: [context](https://lemmy.ml/post/1223478), find help in the list of support alternatives below\n
        4. Not ad nauseam inducing: please make sure it is a question that would be new to most members\n
        5. [An actual topic of discussion](https://lemmy.ml/post/1239589)\n
        \n
        Support alternatives:\n
        \n
        - [!lemmy_support@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/lemmy_support)\n
        - [!nostupidlemmyquestions@lemmy.dbzer0.com](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/nostupidlemmyquestions)\n
        - [!selfhosted@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/selfhosted)\n
        \n
        ~Icon~ ~by~ ~@Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de~
        """
      +rules: null
      +subscriptionsCount: 0
      +entryCount: 580
      +entryCommentCount: 15558
      +postCount: 7
      +postCommentCount: 129
      +isAdult: false
      +customCss: null
      +lastActive: DateTime @1689748304 {#275
        date: 2023-07-19 08:31:44.0 +02:00
      }
      +markedForDeletionAt: null
      +tags: null
      +moderators: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#237 …}
      +ownershipRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#233 …}
      +moderatorRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#222 …}
      +entries: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#180 …}
      +posts: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#138 …}
      +subscriptions: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#200 …}
      +bans: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#117 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#103 …}
      +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#81 …}
      +logs: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#71 …}
      +awards: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1346 …}
      +categories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1823 …}
      -id: 9
      +apId: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +apProfileId: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apPublicUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apFollowersUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy/followers"
      +apInboxUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/inbox"
      +apDomain: "lemmy.ml"
      +apPreferredUsername: "asklemmy"
      +apDiscoverable: true
      +apManuallyApprovesFollowers: null
      +privateKey: null
      +publicKey: null
      +apFetchedAt: DateTime @1689747596 {#269
        date: 2023-07-19 08:19:56.0 +02:00
      }
      +apDeletedAt: null
      +apTimeoutAt: null
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1686889707 {#271
        date: 2023-06-16 06:28:27.0 +02:00
      }
    }
    +image: null
    +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#1915 …}
    +slug: "Best-options-for-Non-Google-cloud-storage-as-of-2022"
    +title: "Best options for Non-Google cloud storage as of 2022?"
    +url: null
    +body: """
      What are Lemmy’s feelings about the best cloud storage options these days, if you really want to break into the 1-2TB range? I’m not there yet, probably not even halfway there, but I like the peace of mind of potentially having the space if I need it. And I think subscribing to something in the Netflix price range is maybe something I’m ready for.\n
      \n
      My thoughts so far:\n
      \n
      [pcloud](https://www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime) - Intriguing because you can pay for a “lifetime” plan of 2TB of storage. But it’s $350, which is a lot, and I don’t know that I love the interface or usability, and I don’t know if I trust them.\n
      \n
      [iDrive](https://www.idrive.com/pricing) - Super affordable. 5tb for “just” $80/year. It might be the best deal, but nothing about their identity suggests to me that they are “good guys.” By which I mean, I’m not sure I trust them to make long-term promises for any specific plan.\n
      \n
      [Mega](https://mega.io/pro) - I like its very anti-google, very encrypted attitude. Born from the ashes of megaupload, they built encryption and zero knowledge into it. I LOVE that you can connect to it through the android app Solid Explorer and therefore don’t even need the mega app if you don’t want it. I hear bad things about it though? And it’s pretty expensive at $115 per year for 2TB.\n
      \n
      My personal thoughts/reasoning/caveats:\n
      \n
      **Homebrew stuff**: I don’t *quite* trust myself to use a homebrew setup like Nextcloud or Syncthing correctly. There’s too much in terms of labor, upkeep, catastrophic single points of failure where you could lose everything. I feel like I’m 70% of the way to being smart enough to do this.\n
      \n
      **Avoiding the Bad Guys and the Free Stuff**: I’ve tried the free version of just about everything, from Google to Onedrive to Dropbox to Mediafire to Mega. There’s even an android app that offers 1 free terrabyte?? But I don’t want something from the bad guys where I’m going to be integrated into their closed source death drap: Google, Amazon, Microsoft, Apple, and I don’t want a too-good-to-be-true free service where I’m the product.\n
      \n
      I also would prefer to avoid something from the upstarts who kinda-sorta imitate the bad guys: Dropbox, Mediafire, Box. Because I’m not sure how much I can trust any specific long term promise from them.\n
      \n
      **It sounds like you’re saying nothing is good enough! What exactly do you want!?** Something from good guys, not bad guys. Something like [Standardnotes](https://standardnotes.com/), but for file storage. They emphasize privacy, good governance principles and longevity of their service. Or [Linode](https://www.linode.com/support-experience/), with their independence, sense of mission, love of Linux & free software, all of which tells me they are good guys.\n
      \n
      Probably the correct answer is (1) here’s this magical perfect source I never thought of, or (2) I’m thinking this much about it, I should probably do Nextcloud or syncthing given all the constraints that I’m putting out there.\n
      \n
      Anyway, that’s my thoughts on cloud storage. What are yours?
      """
    +type: "article"
    +lang: "en"
    +isOc: false
    +hasEmbed: false
    +commentCount: 25
    +favouriteCount: 41
    +score: 0
    +isAdult: false
    +sticky: false
    +lastActive: DateTime @1689719793 {#2414
      date: 2023-07-19 00:36:33.0 +02:00
    }
    +ip: null
    +adaAmount: 0
    +tags: null
    +mentions: null
    +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1884 …}
    +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1973 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1959 …}
    +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1927 …}
    +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2442 …}
    +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2440 …}
    +children: []
    -id: 1294
    -titleTs: "'2022':11 'best':1 'cloud':7 'googl':6 'non':5 'non-googl':4 'option':2 'storag':8"
    -bodyTs: "'-2':23 '/),':451 '/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':77 '/pricing)':123 '/pro)':173 '/support-experience/),':471 '1':22,337,497 '115':240 '2':509 '2tb':88,244 '350':94 '5tb':126 '70':290 '80/year':129 'afford':125 'also':387 'amazon':364 'android':208,333 'answer':495 'anti':179 'anti-googl':178 'anyway':534 'app':209,220,334 'appl':366 'ash':187 'attitud':183 'avoid':301,391 'bad':229,303,348,402,444 'best':8,134 'born':184 'box':406 'break':19 'built':191 'catastroph':275 'close':359 'cloud':9,540 'connect':203 'constraint':527 'correct':265,494 'could':282 'day':13 'deal':135 'death':361 'drap':362 'dropbox':324,404 'emphas':457 'encrypt':182,192 'enough':297,433 'even':33,216,331 'everyth':284,318 'exact':435 'expens':238 'explor':211 'failur':279 'far':73 'feel':5,286 'file':454 'free':307,313,338,379,481 'given':524 'go':353 'good':147,375,432,441,459,490 'googl':180,320,363 'govern':460 'guy':148,304,349,403,442,445,491 'halfway':34 'hear':228 'homebrew':248,259 'ident':140 'idriv':120 'imit':400 'independ':474 'integr':356 'interfac':108 'intrigu':78 'kinda':398 'kinda-sorta':397 'know':103,115 'knowledg':195 'labor':273 'lemmi':3 'lifetim':85 'like':38,175,261,287,426,447 'linod':468 'linux':480 'long':163,419 'long-term':162 'longev':463 'lose':283 'lot':98 'love':106,199,478 'm':27,67,154,289,352,383,409,511,530 'magic':501 'make':161 'mayb':64 'mean':152 'mediafir':326,405 'mega':170,219,328 'mega.io':172 'mega.io/pro)':171 'megaupload':189 'microsoft':365 'might':131 'mind':42 'mission':477 'much':269,413,514 'need':50,217 'netflix':60 'never':505 'nextcloud':262,521 'noth':137,430 'offer':336 'onedr':322 'option':11 'pay':82 'pcloud':74 'peac':40 'per':241 'perfect':502 'person':246 'plan':86,169 'point':277 'potenti':44 'prefer':389 'pretti':237 'price':61 'principl':461 'privaci':458 'probabl':31,492,519 'product':385 'promis':165,421 'put':531 'quit':253 'rang':25,62 're':428 'readi':68 'realli':16 'say':429 'sens':475 'servic':380,466 'setup':260 'singl':276 'smart':296 'softwar':482 'solid':210 'someth':57,65,345,392,439,446 'sorta':399 'sound':425 'sourc':360,503 'space':47 'specif':168,418 'standardnot':448 'standardnotes.com':450 'standardnotes.com/),':449 'storag':10,90,455,541 'stuff':249,308 'subscrib':55 'suggest':141 'super':124 'sure':156,411 'syncth':264,523 'tb':24 'tell':486 'term':164,271,420 'terrabyt':339 'therefor':213 'thing':230 'think':54,512 'though':233 'thought':71,506,538 'thoughts/reasoning/caveats':247 'too-good-to-be-tru':373 'tri':311 'true':378 'trust':118,158,254,416 'upkeep':274 'upstart':395 'usabl':110 'use':257 've':310 'version':314 'want':17,225,344,371,438 'way':293 'would':388 'www.idrive.com':122 'www.idrive.com/pricing)':121 'www.linode.com':470 'www.linode.com/support-experience/),':469 'www.pcloud.com':76 'www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':75 'year':242 'yet':30 'zero':194"
    +cross: false
    +upVotes: 0
    +downVotes: 0
    +ranking: 1642260128
    +visibility: "visible             "
    +apId: "https://lemmy.ml/post/149005"
    +editedAt: null
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1642173728 {#1793
      date: 2022-01-14 16:22:08.0 +01:00
    }
  }
  +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
  +image: null
  +parent: App\Entity\EntryComment {#4812
    +user: App\Entity\User {#4825 …}
    +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419}
    +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
    +image: null
    +parent: null
    +root: null
    +body: "Don’t use cloud storage at all, use syncthing. If you really need a lot of disk space, that’s going to be the cheapest anyway."
    +lang: "en"
    +isAdult: false
    +favouriteCount: 8
    +score: 0
    +lastActive: DateTime @1689447147 {#4807
      date: 2023-07-15 20:52:27.0 +02:00
    }
    +ip: null
    +tags: null
    +mentions: [
      "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
    ]
    +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4813 …}
    +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4815 …}
    +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4817 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4819 …}
    +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4821 …}
    +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4823 …}
    -id: 17962
    -bodyTs: "'anyway':26 'cheapest':25 'cloud':4 'disk':17 'go':21 'lot':15 'need':13 'realli':12 'space':18 'storag':5 'syncth':9 'use':3,8"
    +ranking: 0
    +commentCount: 0
    +upVotes: 0
    +downVotes: 0
    +visibility: "visible             "
    +apId: "https://lemmy.ml/comment/108718"
    +editedAt: null
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1642197483 {#4808
      date: 2022-01-14 22:58:03.0 +01:00
    }
  }
  +root: App\Entity\EntryComment {#4812}
  +body: "What’s the difference between syncthing and just setting up a NAS? basically just not having to buy the hardware and using the computer you already have?"
  +lang: "en"
  +isAdult: false
  +favouriteCount: 2
  +score: 0
  +lastActive: DateTime @1689439072 {#4902
    date: 2023-07-15 18:37:52.0 +02:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +tags: null
  +mentions: [
    "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
    "@dessalines@lemmy.ml"
  ]
  +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4893 …}
  +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4891 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4889 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4904 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4906 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4908 …}
  -id: 18350
  -bodyTs: "'alreadi':26 'basic':13 'buy':18 'comput':24 'differ':4 'hardwar':20 'nas':12 'set':9 'syncth':6 'use':22"
  +ranking: 0
  +commentCount: 0
  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://lemdro.id/comment/359872"
  +editedAt: null
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689439072 {#4899
    date: 2023-07-15 18:37:52.0 +02:00
  }
}
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
96 DENIED moderate 
App\Entity\EntryComment {#4901
  +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#4894 …}
  +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419
    +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#1970 …}
    +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265
      +icon: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#246 …}
      +name: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +title: "asklemmy"
      +description: """
        A loosely moderated place to ask open-ended questions\n
        \n
        **[Search asklemmy](https://lemmy.ml/search?q=&type=Posts&listingType=All&communityId=8&page=1&sort=TopAll) 🔍**\n
        \n
        If your post meets the following criteria, it’s welcome here!\n
        \n
        1. Open-ended\n
        2. Not offensive: at this point, we do not have the bandwidth to moderate overtly political discussions\n
        3. **Not regarding using or support for Lemmy**: [context](https://lemmy.ml/post/1223478), find help in the list of support alternatives below\n
        4. Not ad nauseam inducing: please make sure it is a question that would be new to most members\n
        5. [An actual topic of discussion](https://lemmy.ml/post/1239589)\n
        \n
        Support alternatives:\n
        \n
        - [!lemmy_support@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/lemmy_support)\n
        - [!nostupidlemmyquestions@lemmy.dbzer0.com](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/nostupidlemmyquestions)\n
        - [!selfhosted@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/selfhosted)\n
        \n
        ~Icon~ ~by~ ~@Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de~
        """
      +rules: null
      +subscriptionsCount: 0
      +entryCount: 580
      +entryCommentCount: 15558
      +postCount: 7
      +postCommentCount: 129
      +isAdult: false
      +customCss: null
      +lastActive: DateTime @1689748304 {#275
        date: 2023-07-19 08:31:44.0 +02:00
      }
      +markedForDeletionAt: null
      +tags: null
      +moderators: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#237 …}
      +ownershipRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#233 …}
      +moderatorRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#222 …}
      +entries: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#180 …}
      +posts: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#138 …}
      +subscriptions: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#200 …}
      +bans: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#117 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#103 …}
      +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#81 …}
      +logs: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#71 …}
      +awards: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1346 …}
      +categories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1823 …}
      -id: 9
      +apId: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +apProfileId: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apPublicUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apFollowersUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy/followers"
      +apInboxUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/inbox"
      +apDomain: "lemmy.ml"
      +apPreferredUsername: "asklemmy"
      +apDiscoverable: true
      +apManuallyApprovesFollowers: null
      +privateKey: null
      +publicKey: null
      +apFetchedAt: DateTime @1689747596 {#269
        date: 2023-07-19 08:19:56.0 +02:00
      }
      +apDeletedAt: null
      +apTimeoutAt: null
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1686889707 {#271
        date: 2023-06-16 06:28:27.0 +02:00
      }
    }
    +image: null
    +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#1915 …}
    +slug: "Best-options-for-Non-Google-cloud-storage-as-of-2022"
    +title: "Best options for Non-Google cloud storage as of 2022?"
    +url: null
    +body: """
      What are Lemmy’s feelings about the best cloud storage options these days, if you really want to break into the 1-2TB range? I’m not there yet, probably not even halfway there, but I like the peace of mind of potentially having the space if I need it. And I think subscribing to something in the Netflix price range is maybe something I’m ready for.\n
      \n
      My thoughts so far:\n
      \n
      [pcloud](https://www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime) - Intriguing because you can pay for a “lifetime” plan of 2TB of storage. But it’s $350, which is a lot, and I don’t know that I love the interface or usability, and I don’t know if I trust them.\n
      \n
      [iDrive](https://www.idrive.com/pricing) - Super affordable. 5tb for “just” $80/year. It might be the best deal, but nothing about their identity suggests to me that they are “good guys.” By which I mean, I’m not sure I trust them to make long-term promises for any specific plan.\n
      \n
      [Mega](https://mega.io/pro) - I like its very anti-google, very encrypted attitude. Born from the ashes of megaupload, they built encryption and zero knowledge into it. I LOVE that you can connect to it through the android app Solid Explorer and therefore don’t even need the mega app if you don’t want it. I hear bad things about it though? And it’s pretty expensive at $115 per year for 2TB.\n
      \n
      My personal thoughts/reasoning/caveats:\n
      \n
      **Homebrew stuff**: I don’t *quite* trust myself to use a homebrew setup like Nextcloud or Syncthing correctly. There’s too much in terms of labor, upkeep, catastrophic single points of failure where you could lose everything. I feel like I’m 70% of the way to being smart enough to do this.\n
      \n
      **Avoiding the Bad Guys and the Free Stuff**: I’ve tried the free version of just about everything, from Google to Onedrive to Dropbox to Mediafire to Mega. There’s even an android app that offers 1 free terrabyte?? But I don’t want something from the bad guys where I’m going to be integrated into their closed source death drap: Google, Amazon, Microsoft, Apple, and I don’t want a too-good-to-be-true free service where I’m the product.\n
      \n
      I also would prefer to avoid something from the upstarts who kinda-sorta imitate the bad guys: Dropbox, Mediafire, Box. Because I’m not sure how much I can trust any specific long term promise from them.\n
      \n
      **It sounds like you’re saying nothing is good enough! What exactly do you want!?** Something from good guys, not bad guys. Something like [Standardnotes](https://standardnotes.com/), but for file storage. They emphasize privacy, good governance principles and longevity of their service. Or [Linode](https://www.linode.com/support-experience/), with their independence, sense of mission, love of Linux & free software, all of which tells me they are good guys.\n
      \n
      Probably the correct answer is (1) here’s this magical perfect source I never thought of, or (2) I’m thinking this much about it, I should probably do Nextcloud or syncthing given all the constraints that I’m putting out there.\n
      \n
      Anyway, that’s my thoughts on cloud storage. What are yours?
      """
    +type: "article"
    +lang: "en"
    +isOc: false
    +hasEmbed: false
    +commentCount: 25
    +favouriteCount: 41
    +score: 0
    +isAdult: false
    +sticky: false
    +lastActive: DateTime @1689719793 {#2414
      date: 2023-07-19 00:36:33.0 +02:00
    }
    +ip: null
    +adaAmount: 0
    +tags: null
    +mentions: null
    +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1884 …}
    +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1973 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1959 …}
    +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1927 …}
    +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2442 …}
    +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2440 …}
    +children: []
    -id: 1294
    -titleTs: "'2022':11 'best':1 'cloud':7 'googl':6 'non':5 'non-googl':4 'option':2 'storag':8"
    -bodyTs: "'-2':23 '/),':451 '/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':77 '/pricing)':123 '/pro)':173 '/support-experience/),':471 '1':22,337,497 '115':240 '2':509 '2tb':88,244 '350':94 '5tb':126 '70':290 '80/year':129 'afford':125 'also':387 'amazon':364 'android':208,333 'answer':495 'anti':179 'anti-googl':178 'anyway':534 'app':209,220,334 'appl':366 'ash':187 'attitud':183 'avoid':301,391 'bad':229,303,348,402,444 'best':8,134 'born':184 'box':406 'break':19 'built':191 'catastroph':275 'close':359 'cloud':9,540 'connect':203 'constraint':527 'correct':265,494 'could':282 'day':13 'deal':135 'death':361 'drap':362 'dropbox':324,404 'emphas':457 'encrypt':182,192 'enough':297,433 'even':33,216,331 'everyth':284,318 'exact':435 'expens':238 'explor':211 'failur':279 'far':73 'feel':5,286 'file':454 'free':307,313,338,379,481 'given':524 'go':353 'good':147,375,432,441,459,490 'googl':180,320,363 'govern':460 'guy':148,304,349,403,442,445,491 'halfway':34 'hear':228 'homebrew':248,259 'ident':140 'idriv':120 'imit':400 'independ':474 'integr':356 'interfac':108 'intrigu':78 'kinda':398 'kinda-sorta':397 'know':103,115 'knowledg':195 'labor':273 'lemmi':3 'lifetim':85 'like':38,175,261,287,426,447 'linod':468 'linux':480 'long':163,419 'long-term':162 'longev':463 'lose':283 'lot':98 'love':106,199,478 'm':27,67,154,289,352,383,409,511,530 'magic':501 'make':161 'mayb':64 'mean':152 'mediafir':326,405 'mega':170,219,328 'mega.io':172 'mega.io/pro)':171 'megaupload':189 'microsoft':365 'might':131 'mind':42 'mission':477 'much':269,413,514 'need':50,217 'netflix':60 'never':505 'nextcloud':262,521 'noth':137,430 'offer':336 'onedr':322 'option':11 'pay':82 'pcloud':74 'peac':40 'per':241 'perfect':502 'person':246 'plan':86,169 'point':277 'potenti':44 'prefer':389 'pretti':237 'price':61 'principl':461 'privaci':458 'probabl':31,492,519 'product':385 'promis':165,421 'put':531 'quit':253 'rang':25,62 're':428 'readi':68 'realli':16 'say':429 'sens':475 'servic':380,466 'setup':260 'singl':276 'smart':296 'softwar':482 'solid':210 'someth':57,65,345,392,439,446 'sorta':399 'sound':425 'sourc':360,503 'space':47 'specif':168,418 'standardnot':448 'standardnotes.com':450 'standardnotes.com/),':449 'storag':10,90,455,541 'stuff':249,308 'subscrib':55 'suggest':141 'super':124 'sure':156,411 'syncth':264,523 'tb':24 'tell':486 'term':164,271,420 'terrabyt':339 'therefor':213 'thing':230 'think':54,512 'though':233 'thought':71,506,538 'thoughts/reasoning/caveats':247 'too-good-to-be-tru':373 'tri':311 'true':378 'trust':118,158,254,416 'upkeep':274 'upstart':395 'usabl':110 'use':257 've':310 'version':314 'want':17,225,344,371,438 'way':293 'would':388 'www.idrive.com':122 'www.idrive.com/pricing)':121 'www.linode.com':470 'www.linode.com/support-experience/),':469 'www.pcloud.com':76 'www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':75 'year':242 'yet':30 'zero':194"
    +cross: false
    +upVotes: 0
    +downVotes: 0
    +ranking: 1642260128
    +visibility: "visible             "
    +apId: "https://lemmy.ml/post/149005"
    +editedAt: null
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1642173728 {#1793
      date: 2022-01-14 16:22:08.0 +01:00
    }
  }
  +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
  +image: null
  +parent: App\Entity\EntryComment {#4812
    +user: App\Entity\User {#4825 …}
    +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419}
    +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
    +image: null
    +parent: null
    +root: null
    +body: "Don’t use cloud storage at all, use syncthing. If you really need a lot of disk space, that’s going to be the cheapest anyway."
    +lang: "en"
    +isAdult: false
    +favouriteCount: 8
    +score: 0
    +lastActive: DateTime @1689447147 {#4807
      date: 2023-07-15 20:52:27.0 +02:00
    }
    +ip: null
    +tags: null
    +mentions: [
      "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
    ]
    +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4813 …}
    +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4815 …}
    +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4817 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4819 …}
    +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4821 …}
    +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4823 …}
    -id: 17962
    -bodyTs: "'anyway':26 'cheapest':25 'cloud':4 'disk':17 'go':21 'lot':15 'need':13 'realli':12 'space':18 'storag':5 'syncth':9 'use':3,8"
    +ranking: 0
    +commentCount: 0
    +upVotes: 0
    +downVotes: 0
    +visibility: "visible             "
    +apId: "https://lemmy.ml/comment/108718"
    +editedAt: null
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1642197483 {#4808
      date: 2022-01-14 22:58:03.0 +01:00
    }
  }
  +root: App\Entity\EntryComment {#4812}
  +body: "What’s the difference between syncthing and just setting up a NAS? basically just not having to buy the hardware and using the computer you already have?"
  +lang: "en"
  +isAdult: false
  +favouriteCount: 2
  +score: 0
  +lastActive: DateTime @1689439072 {#4902
    date: 2023-07-15 18:37:52.0 +02:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +tags: null
  +mentions: [
    "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
    "@dessalines@lemmy.ml"
  ]
  +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4893 …}
  +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4891 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4889 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4904 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4906 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4908 …}
  -id: 18350
  -bodyTs: "'alreadi':26 'basic':13 'buy':18 'comput':24 'differ':4 'hardwar':20 'nas':12 'set':9 'syncth':6 'use':22"
  +ranking: 0
  +commentCount: 0
  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://lemdro.id/comment/359872"
  +editedAt: null
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689439072 {#4899
    date: 2023-07-15 18:37:52.0 +02:00
  }
}
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
97 DENIED ROLE_USER 
null
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
98 DENIED moderate 
App\Entity\EntryComment {#5027
  +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#5028 …}
  +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419
    +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#1970 …}
    +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265
      +icon: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#246 …}
      +name: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +title: "asklemmy"
      +description: """
        A loosely moderated place to ask open-ended questions\n
        \n
        **[Search asklemmy](https://lemmy.ml/search?q=&type=Posts&listingType=All&communityId=8&page=1&sort=TopAll) 🔍**\n
        \n
        If your post meets the following criteria, it’s welcome here!\n
        \n
        1. Open-ended\n
        2. Not offensive: at this point, we do not have the bandwidth to moderate overtly political discussions\n
        3. **Not regarding using or support for Lemmy**: [context](https://lemmy.ml/post/1223478), find help in the list of support alternatives below\n
        4. Not ad nauseam inducing: please make sure it is a question that would be new to most members\n
        5. [An actual topic of discussion](https://lemmy.ml/post/1239589)\n
        \n
        Support alternatives:\n
        \n
        - [!lemmy_support@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/lemmy_support)\n
        - [!nostupidlemmyquestions@lemmy.dbzer0.com](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/nostupidlemmyquestions)\n
        - [!selfhosted@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/selfhosted)\n
        \n
        ~Icon~ ~by~ ~@Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de~
        """
      +rules: null
      +subscriptionsCount: 0
      +entryCount: 580
      +entryCommentCount: 15558
      +postCount: 7
      +postCommentCount: 129
      +isAdult: false
      +customCss: null
      +lastActive: DateTime @1689748304 {#275
        date: 2023-07-19 08:31:44.0 +02:00
      }
      +markedForDeletionAt: null
      +tags: null
      +moderators: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#237 …}
      +ownershipRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#233 …}
      +moderatorRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#222 …}
      +entries: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#180 …}
      +posts: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#138 …}
      +subscriptions: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#200 …}
      +bans: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#117 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#103 …}
      +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#81 …}
      +logs: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#71 …}
      +awards: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1346 …}
      +categories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1823 …}
      -id: 9
      +apId: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +apProfileId: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apPublicUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apFollowersUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy/followers"
      +apInboxUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/inbox"
      +apDomain: "lemmy.ml"
      +apPreferredUsername: "asklemmy"
      +apDiscoverable: true
      +apManuallyApprovesFollowers: null
      +privateKey: null
      +publicKey: null
      +apFetchedAt: DateTime @1689747596 {#269
        date: 2023-07-19 08:19:56.0 +02:00
      }
      +apDeletedAt: null
      +apTimeoutAt: null
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1686889707 {#271
        date: 2023-06-16 06:28:27.0 +02:00
      }
    }
    +image: null
    +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#1915 …}
    +slug: "Best-options-for-Non-Google-cloud-storage-as-of-2022"
    +title: "Best options for Non-Google cloud storage as of 2022?"
    +url: null
    +body: """
      What are Lemmy’s feelings about the best cloud storage options these days, if you really want to break into the 1-2TB range? I’m not there yet, probably not even halfway there, but I like the peace of mind of potentially having the space if I need it. And I think subscribing to something in the Netflix price range is maybe something I’m ready for.\n
      \n
      My thoughts so far:\n
      \n
      [pcloud](https://www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime) - Intriguing because you can pay for a “lifetime” plan of 2TB of storage. But it’s $350, which is a lot, and I don’t know that I love the interface or usability, and I don’t know if I trust them.\n
      \n
      [iDrive](https://www.idrive.com/pricing) - Super affordable. 5tb for “just” $80/year. It might be the best deal, but nothing about their identity suggests to me that they are “good guys.” By which I mean, I’m not sure I trust them to make long-term promises for any specific plan.\n
      \n
      [Mega](https://mega.io/pro) - I like its very anti-google, very encrypted attitude. Born from the ashes of megaupload, they built encryption and zero knowledge into it. I LOVE that you can connect to it through the android app Solid Explorer and therefore don’t even need the mega app if you don’t want it. I hear bad things about it though? And it’s pretty expensive at $115 per year for 2TB.\n
      \n
      My personal thoughts/reasoning/caveats:\n
      \n
      **Homebrew stuff**: I don’t *quite* trust myself to use a homebrew setup like Nextcloud or Syncthing correctly. There’s too much in terms of labor, upkeep, catastrophic single points of failure where you could lose everything. I feel like I’m 70% of the way to being smart enough to do this.\n
      \n
      **Avoiding the Bad Guys and the Free Stuff**: I’ve tried the free version of just about everything, from Google to Onedrive to Dropbox to Mediafire to Mega. There’s even an android app that offers 1 free terrabyte?? But I don’t want something from the bad guys where I’m going to be integrated into their closed source death drap: Google, Amazon, Microsoft, Apple, and I don’t want a too-good-to-be-true free service where I’m the product.\n
      \n
      I also would prefer to avoid something from the upstarts who kinda-sorta imitate the bad guys: Dropbox, Mediafire, Box. Because I’m not sure how much I can trust any specific long term promise from them.\n
      \n
      **It sounds like you’re saying nothing is good enough! What exactly do you want!?** Something from good guys, not bad guys. Something like [Standardnotes](https://standardnotes.com/), but for file storage. They emphasize privacy, good governance principles and longevity of their service. Or [Linode](https://www.linode.com/support-experience/), with their independence, sense of mission, love of Linux & free software, all of which tells me they are good guys.\n
      \n
      Probably the correct answer is (1) here’s this magical perfect source I never thought of, or (2) I’m thinking this much about it, I should probably do Nextcloud or syncthing given all the constraints that I’m putting out there.\n
      \n
      Anyway, that’s my thoughts on cloud storage. What are yours?
      """
    +type: "article"
    +lang: "en"
    +isOc: false
    +hasEmbed: false
    +commentCount: 25
    +favouriteCount: 41
    +score: 0
    +isAdult: false
    +sticky: false
    +lastActive: DateTime @1689719793 {#2414
      date: 2023-07-19 00:36:33.0 +02:00
    }
    +ip: null
    +adaAmount: 0
    +tags: null
    +mentions: null
    +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1884 …}
    +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1973 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1959 …}
    +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1927 …}
    +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2442 …}
    +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2440 …}
    +children: []
    -id: 1294
    -titleTs: "'2022':11 'best':1 'cloud':7 'googl':6 'non':5 'non-googl':4 'option':2 'storag':8"
    -bodyTs: "'-2':23 '/),':451 '/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':77 '/pricing)':123 '/pro)':173 '/support-experience/),':471 '1':22,337,497 '115':240 '2':509 '2tb':88,244 '350':94 '5tb':126 '70':290 '80/year':129 'afford':125 'also':387 'amazon':364 'android':208,333 'answer':495 'anti':179 'anti-googl':178 'anyway':534 'app':209,220,334 'appl':366 'ash':187 'attitud':183 'avoid':301,391 'bad':229,303,348,402,444 'best':8,134 'born':184 'box':406 'break':19 'built':191 'catastroph':275 'close':359 'cloud':9,540 'connect':203 'constraint':527 'correct':265,494 'could':282 'day':13 'deal':135 'death':361 'drap':362 'dropbox':324,404 'emphas':457 'encrypt':182,192 'enough':297,433 'even':33,216,331 'everyth':284,318 'exact':435 'expens':238 'explor':211 'failur':279 'far':73 'feel':5,286 'file':454 'free':307,313,338,379,481 'given':524 'go':353 'good':147,375,432,441,459,490 'googl':180,320,363 'govern':460 'guy':148,304,349,403,442,445,491 'halfway':34 'hear':228 'homebrew':248,259 'ident':140 'idriv':120 'imit':400 'independ':474 'integr':356 'interfac':108 'intrigu':78 'kinda':398 'kinda-sorta':397 'know':103,115 'knowledg':195 'labor':273 'lemmi':3 'lifetim':85 'like':38,175,261,287,426,447 'linod':468 'linux':480 'long':163,419 'long-term':162 'longev':463 'lose':283 'lot':98 'love':106,199,478 'm':27,67,154,289,352,383,409,511,530 'magic':501 'make':161 'mayb':64 'mean':152 'mediafir':326,405 'mega':170,219,328 'mega.io':172 'mega.io/pro)':171 'megaupload':189 'microsoft':365 'might':131 'mind':42 'mission':477 'much':269,413,514 'need':50,217 'netflix':60 'never':505 'nextcloud':262,521 'noth':137,430 'offer':336 'onedr':322 'option':11 'pay':82 'pcloud':74 'peac':40 'per':241 'perfect':502 'person':246 'plan':86,169 'point':277 'potenti':44 'prefer':389 'pretti':237 'price':61 'principl':461 'privaci':458 'probabl':31,492,519 'product':385 'promis':165,421 'put':531 'quit':253 'rang':25,62 're':428 'readi':68 'realli':16 'say':429 'sens':475 'servic':380,466 'setup':260 'singl':276 'smart':296 'softwar':482 'solid':210 'someth':57,65,345,392,439,446 'sorta':399 'sound':425 'sourc':360,503 'space':47 'specif':168,418 'standardnot':448 'standardnotes.com':450 'standardnotes.com/),':449 'storag':10,90,455,541 'stuff':249,308 'subscrib':55 'suggest':141 'super':124 'sure':156,411 'syncth':264,523 'tb':24 'tell':486 'term':164,271,420 'terrabyt':339 'therefor':213 'thing':230 'think':54,512 'though':233 'thought':71,506,538 'thoughts/reasoning/caveats':247 'too-good-to-be-tru':373 'tri':311 'true':378 'trust':118,158,254,416 'upkeep':274 'upstart':395 'usabl':110 'use':257 've':310 'version':314 'want':17,225,344,371,438 'way':293 'would':388 'www.idrive.com':122 'www.idrive.com/pricing)':121 'www.linode.com':470 'www.linode.com/support-experience/),':469 'www.pcloud.com':76 'www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':75 'year':242 'yet':30 'zero':194"
    +cross: false
    +upVotes: 0
    +downVotes: 0
    +ranking: 1642260128
    +visibility: "visible             "
    +apId: "https://lemmy.ml/post/149005"
    +editedAt: null
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1642173728 {#1793
      date: 2022-01-14 16:22:08.0 +01:00
    }
  }
  +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
  +image: null
  +parent: App\Entity\EntryComment {#4901
    +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#4894 …}
    +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419}
    +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
    +image: null
    +parent: App\Entity\EntryComment {#4812
      +user: App\Entity\User {#4825 …}
      +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419}
      +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
      +image: null
      +parent: null
      +root: null
      +body: "Don’t use cloud storage at all, use syncthing. If you really need a lot of disk space, that’s going to be the cheapest anyway."
      +lang: "en"
      +isAdult: false
      +favouriteCount: 8
      +score: 0
      +lastActive: DateTime @1689447147 {#4807
        date: 2023-07-15 20:52:27.0 +02:00
      }
      +ip: null
      +tags: null
      +mentions: [
        "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
      ]
      +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4813 …}
      +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4815 …}
      +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4817 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4819 …}
      +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4821 …}
      +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4823 …}
      -id: 17962
      -bodyTs: "'anyway':26 'cheapest':25 'cloud':4 'disk':17 'go':21 'lot':15 'need':13 'realli':12 'space':18 'storag':5 'syncth':9 'use':3,8"
      +ranking: 0
      +commentCount: 0
      +upVotes: 0
      +downVotes: 0
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +apId: "https://lemmy.ml/comment/108718"
      +editedAt: null
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1642197483 {#4808
        date: 2022-01-14 22:58:03.0 +01:00
      }
    }
    +root: App\Entity\EntryComment {#4812}
    +body: "What’s the difference between syncthing and just setting up a NAS? basically just not having to buy the hardware and using the computer you already have?"
    +lang: "en"
    +isAdult: false
    +favouriteCount: 2
    +score: 0
    +lastActive: DateTime @1689439072 {#4902
      date: 2023-07-15 18:37:52.0 +02:00
    }
    +ip: null
    +tags: null
    +mentions: [
      "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
      "@dessalines@lemmy.ml"
    ]
    +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4893 …}
    +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4891 …}
    +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4889 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4904 …}
    +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4906 …}
    +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4908 …}
    -id: 18350
    -bodyTs: "'alreadi':26 'basic':13 'buy':18 'comput':24 'differ':4 'hardwar':20 'nas':12 'set':9 'syncth':6 'use':22"
    +ranking: 0
    +commentCount: 0
    +upVotes: 0
    +downVotes: 0
    +visibility: "visible             "
    +apId: "https://lemdro.id/comment/359872"
    +editedAt: null
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689439072 {#4899
      date: 2023-07-15 18:37:52.0 +02:00
    }
  }
  +root: App\Entity\EntryComment {#4812}
  +body: "Not having to setup and maintain an additional machine would be my guess. So yea exactly what you said"
  +lang: "en"
  +isAdult: false
  +favouriteCount: 2
  +score: 0
  +lastActive: DateTime @1689443605 {#5025
    date: 2023-07-15 19:53:25.0 +02:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +tags: null
  +mentions: [
    "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
    "@dessalines@lemmy.ml"
    "@Resolved3874@lemdro.id"
  ]
  +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5029 …}
  +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5031 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5033 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5035 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5037 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5039 …}
  -id: 18495
  -bodyTs: "'addit':8 'exact':16 'guess':13 'machin':9 'maintain':6 'said':19 'setup':4 'would':10 'yea':15"
  +ranking: 0
  +commentCount: 0
  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://iusearchlinux.fyi/comment/745548"
  +editedAt: null
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689443605 {#5026
    date: 2023-07-15 19:53:25.0 +02:00
  }
}
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
99 DENIED edit 
App\Entity\EntryComment {#5027
  +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#5028 …}
  +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419
    +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#1970 …}
    +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265
      +icon: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#246 …}
      +name: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +title: "asklemmy"
      +description: """
        A loosely moderated place to ask open-ended questions\n
        \n
        **[Search asklemmy](https://lemmy.ml/search?q=&type=Posts&listingType=All&communityId=8&page=1&sort=TopAll) 🔍**\n
        \n
        If your post meets the following criteria, it’s welcome here!\n
        \n
        1. Open-ended\n
        2. Not offensive: at this point, we do not have the bandwidth to moderate overtly political discussions\n
        3. **Not regarding using or support for Lemmy**: [context](https://lemmy.ml/post/1223478), find help in the list of support alternatives below\n
        4. Not ad nauseam inducing: please make sure it is a question that would be new to most members\n
        5. [An actual topic of discussion](https://lemmy.ml/post/1239589)\n
        \n
        Support alternatives:\n
        \n
        - [!lemmy_support@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/lemmy_support)\n
        - [!nostupidlemmyquestions@lemmy.dbzer0.com](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/nostupidlemmyquestions)\n
        - [!selfhosted@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/selfhosted)\n
        \n
        ~Icon~ ~by~ ~@Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de~
        """
      +rules: null
      +subscriptionsCount: 0
      +entryCount: 580
      +entryCommentCount: 15558
      +postCount: 7
      +postCommentCount: 129
      +isAdult: false
      +customCss: null
      +lastActive: DateTime @1689748304 {#275
        date: 2023-07-19 08:31:44.0 +02:00
      }
      +markedForDeletionAt: null
      +tags: null
      +moderators: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#237 …}
      +ownershipRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#233 …}
      +moderatorRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#222 …}
      +entries: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#180 …}
      +posts: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#138 …}
      +subscriptions: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#200 …}
      +bans: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#117 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#103 …}
      +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#81 …}
      +logs: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#71 …}
      +awards: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1346 …}
      +categories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1823 …}
      -id: 9
      +apId: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +apProfileId: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apPublicUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apFollowersUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy/followers"
      +apInboxUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/inbox"
      +apDomain: "lemmy.ml"
      +apPreferredUsername: "asklemmy"
      +apDiscoverable: true
      +apManuallyApprovesFollowers: null
      +privateKey: null
      +publicKey: null
      +apFetchedAt: DateTime @1689747596 {#269
        date: 2023-07-19 08:19:56.0 +02:00
      }
      +apDeletedAt: null
      +apTimeoutAt: null
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1686889707 {#271
        date: 2023-06-16 06:28:27.0 +02:00
      }
    }
    +image: null
    +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#1915 …}
    +slug: "Best-options-for-Non-Google-cloud-storage-as-of-2022"
    +title: "Best options for Non-Google cloud storage as of 2022?"
    +url: null
    +body: """
      What are Lemmy’s feelings about the best cloud storage options these days, if you really want to break into the 1-2TB range? I’m not there yet, probably not even halfway there, but I like the peace of mind of potentially having the space if I need it. And I think subscribing to something in the Netflix price range is maybe something I’m ready for.\n
      \n
      My thoughts so far:\n
      \n
      [pcloud](https://www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime) - Intriguing because you can pay for a “lifetime” plan of 2TB of storage. But it’s $350, which is a lot, and I don’t know that I love the interface or usability, and I don’t know if I trust them.\n
      \n
      [iDrive](https://www.idrive.com/pricing) - Super affordable. 5tb for “just” $80/year. It might be the best deal, but nothing about their identity suggests to me that they are “good guys.” By which I mean, I’m not sure I trust them to make long-term promises for any specific plan.\n
      \n
      [Mega](https://mega.io/pro) - I like its very anti-google, very encrypted attitude. Born from the ashes of megaupload, they built encryption and zero knowledge into it. I LOVE that you can connect to it through the android app Solid Explorer and therefore don’t even need the mega app if you don’t want it. I hear bad things about it though? And it’s pretty expensive at $115 per year for 2TB.\n
      \n
      My personal thoughts/reasoning/caveats:\n
      \n
      **Homebrew stuff**: I don’t *quite* trust myself to use a homebrew setup like Nextcloud or Syncthing correctly. There’s too much in terms of labor, upkeep, catastrophic single points of failure where you could lose everything. I feel like I’m 70% of the way to being smart enough to do this.\n
      \n
      **Avoiding the Bad Guys and the Free Stuff**: I’ve tried the free version of just about everything, from Google to Onedrive to Dropbox to Mediafire to Mega. There’s even an android app that offers 1 free terrabyte?? But I don’t want something from the bad guys where I’m going to be integrated into their closed source death drap: Google, Amazon, Microsoft, Apple, and I don’t want a too-good-to-be-true free service where I’m the product.\n
      \n
      I also would prefer to avoid something from the upstarts who kinda-sorta imitate the bad guys: Dropbox, Mediafire, Box. Because I’m not sure how much I can trust any specific long term promise from them.\n
      \n
      **It sounds like you’re saying nothing is good enough! What exactly do you want!?** Something from good guys, not bad guys. Something like [Standardnotes](https://standardnotes.com/), but for file storage. They emphasize privacy, good governance principles and longevity of their service. Or [Linode](https://www.linode.com/support-experience/), with their independence, sense of mission, love of Linux & free software, all of which tells me they are good guys.\n
      \n
      Probably the correct answer is (1) here’s this magical perfect source I never thought of, or (2) I’m thinking this much about it, I should probably do Nextcloud or syncthing given all the constraints that I’m putting out there.\n
      \n
      Anyway, that’s my thoughts on cloud storage. What are yours?
      """
    +type: "article"
    +lang: "en"
    +isOc: false
    +hasEmbed: false
    +commentCount: 25
    +favouriteCount: 41
    +score: 0
    +isAdult: false
    +sticky: false
    +lastActive: DateTime @1689719793 {#2414
      date: 2023-07-19 00:36:33.0 +02:00
    }
    +ip: null
    +adaAmount: 0
    +tags: null
    +mentions: null
    +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1884 …}
    +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1973 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1959 …}
    +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1927 …}
    +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2442 …}
    +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2440 …}
    +children: []
    -id: 1294
    -titleTs: "'2022':11 'best':1 'cloud':7 'googl':6 'non':5 'non-googl':4 'option':2 'storag':8"
    -bodyTs: "'-2':23 '/),':451 '/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':77 '/pricing)':123 '/pro)':173 '/support-experience/),':471 '1':22,337,497 '115':240 '2':509 '2tb':88,244 '350':94 '5tb':126 '70':290 '80/year':129 'afford':125 'also':387 'amazon':364 'android':208,333 'answer':495 'anti':179 'anti-googl':178 'anyway':534 'app':209,220,334 'appl':366 'ash':187 'attitud':183 'avoid':301,391 'bad':229,303,348,402,444 'best':8,134 'born':184 'box':406 'break':19 'built':191 'catastroph':275 'close':359 'cloud':9,540 'connect':203 'constraint':527 'correct':265,494 'could':282 'day':13 'deal':135 'death':361 'drap':362 'dropbox':324,404 'emphas':457 'encrypt':182,192 'enough':297,433 'even':33,216,331 'everyth':284,318 'exact':435 'expens':238 'explor':211 'failur':279 'far':73 'feel':5,286 'file':454 'free':307,313,338,379,481 'given':524 'go':353 'good':147,375,432,441,459,490 'googl':180,320,363 'govern':460 'guy':148,304,349,403,442,445,491 'halfway':34 'hear':228 'homebrew':248,259 'ident':140 'idriv':120 'imit':400 'independ':474 'integr':356 'interfac':108 'intrigu':78 'kinda':398 'kinda-sorta':397 'know':103,115 'knowledg':195 'labor':273 'lemmi':3 'lifetim':85 'like':38,175,261,287,426,447 'linod':468 'linux':480 'long':163,419 'long-term':162 'longev':463 'lose':283 'lot':98 'love':106,199,478 'm':27,67,154,289,352,383,409,511,530 'magic':501 'make':161 'mayb':64 'mean':152 'mediafir':326,405 'mega':170,219,328 'mega.io':172 'mega.io/pro)':171 'megaupload':189 'microsoft':365 'might':131 'mind':42 'mission':477 'much':269,413,514 'need':50,217 'netflix':60 'never':505 'nextcloud':262,521 'noth':137,430 'offer':336 'onedr':322 'option':11 'pay':82 'pcloud':74 'peac':40 'per':241 'perfect':502 'person':246 'plan':86,169 'point':277 'potenti':44 'prefer':389 'pretti':237 'price':61 'principl':461 'privaci':458 'probabl':31,492,519 'product':385 'promis':165,421 'put':531 'quit':253 'rang':25,62 're':428 'readi':68 'realli':16 'say':429 'sens':475 'servic':380,466 'setup':260 'singl':276 'smart':296 'softwar':482 'solid':210 'someth':57,65,345,392,439,446 'sorta':399 'sound':425 'sourc':360,503 'space':47 'specif':168,418 'standardnot':448 'standardnotes.com':450 'standardnotes.com/),':449 'storag':10,90,455,541 'stuff':249,308 'subscrib':55 'suggest':141 'super':124 'sure':156,411 'syncth':264,523 'tb':24 'tell':486 'term':164,271,420 'terrabyt':339 'therefor':213 'thing':230 'think':54,512 'though':233 'thought':71,506,538 'thoughts/reasoning/caveats':247 'too-good-to-be-tru':373 'tri':311 'true':378 'trust':118,158,254,416 'upkeep':274 'upstart':395 'usabl':110 'use':257 've':310 'version':314 'want':17,225,344,371,438 'way':293 'would':388 'www.idrive.com':122 'www.idrive.com/pricing)':121 'www.linode.com':470 'www.linode.com/support-experience/),':469 'www.pcloud.com':76 'www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':75 'year':242 'yet':30 'zero':194"
    +cross: false
    +upVotes: 0
    +downVotes: 0
    +ranking: 1642260128
    +visibility: "visible             "
    +apId: "https://lemmy.ml/post/149005"
    +editedAt: null
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1642173728 {#1793
      date: 2022-01-14 16:22:08.0 +01:00
    }
  }
  +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
  +image: null
  +parent: App\Entity\EntryComment {#4901
    +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#4894 …}
    +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419}
    +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
    +image: null
    +parent: App\Entity\EntryComment {#4812
      +user: App\Entity\User {#4825 …}
      +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419}
      +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
      +image: null
      +parent: null
      +root: null
      +body: "Don’t use cloud storage at all, use syncthing. If you really need a lot of disk space, that’s going to be the cheapest anyway."
      +lang: "en"
      +isAdult: false
      +favouriteCount: 8
      +score: 0
      +lastActive: DateTime @1689447147 {#4807
        date: 2023-07-15 20:52:27.0 +02:00
      }
      +ip: null
      +tags: null
      +mentions: [
        "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
      ]
      +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4813 …}
      +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4815 …}
      +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4817 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4819 …}
      +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4821 …}
      +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4823 …}
      -id: 17962
      -bodyTs: "'anyway':26 'cheapest':25 'cloud':4 'disk':17 'go':21 'lot':15 'need':13 'realli':12 'space':18 'storag':5 'syncth':9 'use':3,8"
      +ranking: 0
      +commentCount: 0
      +upVotes: 0
      +downVotes: 0
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +apId: "https://lemmy.ml/comment/108718"
      +editedAt: null
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1642197483 {#4808
        date: 2022-01-14 22:58:03.0 +01:00
      }
    }
    +root: App\Entity\EntryComment {#4812}
    +body: "What’s the difference between syncthing and just setting up a NAS? basically just not having to buy the hardware and using the computer you already have?"
    +lang: "en"
    +isAdult: false
    +favouriteCount: 2
    +score: 0
    +lastActive: DateTime @1689439072 {#4902
      date: 2023-07-15 18:37:52.0 +02:00
    }
    +ip: null
    +tags: null
    +mentions: [
      "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
      "@dessalines@lemmy.ml"
    ]
    +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4893 …}
    +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4891 …}
    +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4889 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4904 …}
    +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4906 …}
    +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4908 …}
    -id: 18350
    -bodyTs: "'alreadi':26 'basic':13 'buy':18 'comput':24 'differ':4 'hardwar':20 'nas':12 'set':9 'syncth':6 'use':22"
    +ranking: 0
    +commentCount: 0
    +upVotes: 0
    +downVotes: 0
    +visibility: "visible             "
    +apId: "https://lemdro.id/comment/359872"
    +editedAt: null
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689439072 {#4899
      date: 2023-07-15 18:37:52.0 +02:00
    }
  }
  +root: App\Entity\EntryComment {#4812}
  +body: "Not having to setup and maintain an additional machine would be my guess. So yea exactly what you said"
  +lang: "en"
  +isAdult: false
  +favouriteCount: 2
  +score: 0
  +lastActive: DateTime @1689443605 {#5025
    date: 2023-07-15 19:53:25.0 +02:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +tags: null
  +mentions: [
    "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
    "@dessalines@lemmy.ml"
    "@Resolved3874@lemdro.id"
  ]
  +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5029 …}
  +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5031 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5033 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5035 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5037 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5039 …}
  -id: 18495
  -bodyTs: "'addit':8 'exact':16 'guess':13 'machin':9 'maintain':6 'said':19 'setup':4 'would':10 'yea':15"
  +ranking: 0
  +commentCount: 0
  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://iusearchlinux.fyi/comment/745548"
  +editedAt: null
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689443605 {#5026
    date: 2023-07-15 19:53:25.0 +02:00
  }
}
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
100 DENIED moderate 
App\Entity\EntryComment {#5027
  +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#5028 …}
  +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419
    +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#1970 …}
    +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265
      +icon: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#246 …}
      +name: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +title: "asklemmy"
      +description: """
        A loosely moderated place to ask open-ended questions\n
        \n
        **[Search asklemmy](https://lemmy.ml/search?q=&type=Posts&listingType=All&communityId=8&page=1&sort=TopAll) 🔍**\n
        \n
        If your post meets the following criteria, it’s welcome here!\n
        \n
        1. Open-ended\n
        2. Not offensive: at this point, we do not have the bandwidth to moderate overtly political discussions\n
        3. **Not regarding using or support for Lemmy**: [context](https://lemmy.ml/post/1223478), find help in the list of support alternatives below\n
        4. Not ad nauseam inducing: please make sure it is a question that would be new to most members\n
        5. [An actual topic of discussion](https://lemmy.ml/post/1239589)\n
        \n
        Support alternatives:\n
        \n
        - [!lemmy_support@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/lemmy_support)\n
        - [!nostupidlemmyquestions@lemmy.dbzer0.com](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/nostupidlemmyquestions)\n
        - [!selfhosted@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/selfhosted)\n
        \n
        ~Icon~ ~by~ ~@Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de~
        """
      +rules: null
      +subscriptionsCount: 0
      +entryCount: 580
      +entryCommentCount: 15558
      +postCount: 7
      +postCommentCount: 129
      +isAdult: false
      +customCss: null
      +lastActive: DateTime @1689748304 {#275
        date: 2023-07-19 08:31:44.0 +02:00
      }
      +markedForDeletionAt: null
      +tags: null
      +moderators: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#237 …}
      +ownershipRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#233 …}
      +moderatorRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#222 …}
      +entries: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#180 …}
      +posts: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#138 …}
      +subscriptions: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#200 …}
      +bans: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#117 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#103 …}
      +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#81 …}
      +logs: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#71 …}
      +awards: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1346 …}
      +categories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1823 …}
      -id: 9
      +apId: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +apProfileId: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apPublicUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apFollowersUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy/followers"
      +apInboxUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/inbox"
      +apDomain: "lemmy.ml"
      +apPreferredUsername: "asklemmy"
      +apDiscoverable: true
      +apManuallyApprovesFollowers: null
      +privateKey: null
      +publicKey: null
      +apFetchedAt: DateTime @1689747596 {#269
        date: 2023-07-19 08:19:56.0 +02:00
      }
      +apDeletedAt: null
      +apTimeoutAt: null
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1686889707 {#271
        date: 2023-06-16 06:28:27.0 +02:00
      }
    }
    +image: null
    +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#1915 …}
    +slug: "Best-options-for-Non-Google-cloud-storage-as-of-2022"
    +title: "Best options for Non-Google cloud storage as of 2022?"
    +url: null
    +body: """
      What are Lemmy’s feelings about the best cloud storage options these days, if you really want to break into the 1-2TB range? I’m not there yet, probably not even halfway there, but I like the peace of mind of potentially having the space if I need it. And I think subscribing to something in the Netflix price range is maybe something I’m ready for.\n
      \n
      My thoughts so far:\n
      \n
      [pcloud](https://www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime) - Intriguing because you can pay for a “lifetime” plan of 2TB of storage. But it’s $350, which is a lot, and I don’t know that I love the interface or usability, and I don’t know if I trust them.\n
      \n
      [iDrive](https://www.idrive.com/pricing) - Super affordable. 5tb for “just” $80/year. It might be the best deal, but nothing about their identity suggests to me that they are “good guys.” By which I mean, I’m not sure I trust them to make long-term promises for any specific plan.\n
      \n
      [Mega](https://mega.io/pro) - I like its very anti-google, very encrypted attitude. Born from the ashes of megaupload, they built encryption and zero knowledge into it. I LOVE that you can connect to it through the android app Solid Explorer and therefore don’t even need the mega app if you don’t want it. I hear bad things about it though? And it’s pretty expensive at $115 per year for 2TB.\n
      \n
      My personal thoughts/reasoning/caveats:\n
      \n
      **Homebrew stuff**: I don’t *quite* trust myself to use a homebrew setup like Nextcloud or Syncthing correctly. There’s too much in terms of labor, upkeep, catastrophic single points of failure where you could lose everything. I feel like I’m 70% of the way to being smart enough to do this.\n
      \n
      **Avoiding the Bad Guys and the Free Stuff**: I’ve tried the free version of just about everything, from Google to Onedrive to Dropbox to Mediafire to Mega. There’s even an android app that offers 1 free terrabyte?? But I don’t want something from the bad guys where I’m going to be integrated into their closed source death drap: Google, Amazon, Microsoft, Apple, and I don’t want a too-good-to-be-true free service where I’m the product.\n
      \n
      I also would prefer to avoid something from the upstarts who kinda-sorta imitate the bad guys: Dropbox, Mediafire, Box. Because I’m not sure how much I can trust any specific long term promise from them.\n
      \n
      **It sounds like you’re saying nothing is good enough! What exactly do you want!?** Something from good guys, not bad guys. Something like [Standardnotes](https://standardnotes.com/), but for file storage. They emphasize privacy, good governance principles and longevity of their service. Or [Linode](https://www.linode.com/support-experience/), with their independence, sense of mission, love of Linux & free software, all of which tells me they are good guys.\n
      \n
      Probably the correct answer is (1) here’s this magical perfect source I never thought of, or (2) I’m thinking this much about it, I should probably do Nextcloud or syncthing given all the constraints that I’m putting out there.\n
      \n
      Anyway, that’s my thoughts on cloud storage. What are yours?
      """
    +type: "article"
    +lang: "en"
    +isOc: false
    +hasEmbed: false
    +commentCount: 25
    +favouriteCount: 41
    +score: 0
    +isAdult: false
    +sticky: false
    +lastActive: DateTime @1689719793 {#2414
      date: 2023-07-19 00:36:33.0 +02:00
    }
    +ip: null
    +adaAmount: 0
    +tags: null
    +mentions: null
    +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1884 …}
    +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1973 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1959 …}
    +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1927 …}
    +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2442 …}
    +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2440 …}
    +children: []
    -id: 1294
    -titleTs: "'2022':11 'best':1 'cloud':7 'googl':6 'non':5 'non-googl':4 'option':2 'storag':8"
    -bodyTs: "'-2':23 '/),':451 '/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':77 '/pricing)':123 '/pro)':173 '/support-experience/),':471 '1':22,337,497 '115':240 '2':509 '2tb':88,244 '350':94 '5tb':126 '70':290 '80/year':129 'afford':125 'also':387 'amazon':364 'android':208,333 'answer':495 'anti':179 'anti-googl':178 'anyway':534 'app':209,220,334 'appl':366 'ash':187 'attitud':183 'avoid':301,391 'bad':229,303,348,402,444 'best':8,134 'born':184 'box':406 'break':19 'built':191 'catastroph':275 'close':359 'cloud':9,540 'connect':203 'constraint':527 'correct':265,494 'could':282 'day':13 'deal':135 'death':361 'drap':362 'dropbox':324,404 'emphas':457 'encrypt':182,192 'enough':297,433 'even':33,216,331 'everyth':284,318 'exact':435 'expens':238 'explor':211 'failur':279 'far':73 'feel':5,286 'file':454 'free':307,313,338,379,481 'given':524 'go':353 'good':147,375,432,441,459,490 'googl':180,320,363 'govern':460 'guy':148,304,349,403,442,445,491 'halfway':34 'hear':228 'homebrew':248,259 'ident':140 'idriv':120 'imit':400 'independ':474 'integr':356 'interfac':108 'intrigu':78 'kinda':398 'kinda-sorta':397 'know':103,115 'knowledg':195 'labor':273 'lemmi':3 'lifetim':85 'like':38,175,261,287,426,447 'linod':468 'linux':480 'long':163,419 'long-term':162 'longev':463 'lose':283 'lot':98 'love':106,199,478 'm':27,67,154,289,352,383,409,511,530 'magic':501 'make':161 'mayb':64 'mean':152 'mediafir':326,405 'mega':170,219,328 'mega.io':172 'mega.io/pro)':171 'megaupload':189 'microsoft':365 'might':131 'mind':42 'mission':477 'much':269,413,514 'need':50,217 'netflix':60 'never':505 'nextcloud':262,521 'noth':137,430 'offer':336 'onedr':322 'option':11 'pay':82 'pcloud':74 'peac':40 'per':241 'perfect':502 'person':246 'plan':86,169 'point':277 'potenti':44 'prefer':389 'pretti':237 'price':61 'principl':461 'privaci':458 'probabl':31,492,519 'product':385 'promis':165,421 'put':531 'quit':253 'rang':25,62 're':428 'readi':68 'realli':16 'say':429 'sens':475 'servic':380,466 'setup':260 'singl':276 'smart':296 'softwar':482 'solid':210 'someth':57,65,345,392,439,446 'sorta':399 'sound':425 'sourc':360,503 'space':47 'specif':168,418 'standardnot':448 'standardnotes.com':450 'standardnotes.com/),':449 'storag':10,90,455,541 'stuff':249,308 'subscrib':55 'suggest':141 'super':124 'sure':156,411 'syncth':264,523 'tb':24 'tell':486 'term':164,271,420 'terrabyt':339 'therefor':213 'thing':230 'think':54,512 'though':233 'thought':71,506,538 'thoughts/reasoning/caveats':247 'too-good-to-be-tru':373 'tri':311 'true':378 'trust':118,158,254,416 'upkeep':274 'upstart':395 'usabl':110 'use':257 've':310 'version':314 'want':17,225,344,371,438 'way':293 'would':388 'www.idrive.com':122 'www.idrive.com/pricing)':121 'www.linode.com':470 'www.linode.com/support-experience/),':469 'www.pcloud.com':76 'www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':75 'year':242 'yet':30 'zero':194"
    +cross: false
    +upVotes: 0
    +downVotes: 0
    +ranking: 1642260128
    +visibility: "visible             "
    +apId: "https://lemmy.ml/post/149005"
    +editedAt: null
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1642173728 {#1793
      date: 2022-01-14 16:22:08.0 +01:00
    }
  }
  +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
  +image: null
  +parent: App\Entity\EntryComment {#4901
    +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#4894 …}
    +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419}
    +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
    +image: null
    +parent: App\Entity\EntryComment {#4812
      +user: App\Entity\User {#4825 …}
      +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419}
      +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
      +image: null
      +parent: null
      +root: null
      +body: "Don’t use cloud storage at all, use syncthing. If you really need a lot of disk space, that’s going to be the cheapest anyway."
      +lang: "en"
      +isAdult: false
      +favouriteCount: 8
      +score: 0
      +lastActive: DateTime @1689447147 {#4807
        date: 2023-07-15 20:52:27.0 +02:00
      }
      +ip: null
      +tags: null
      +mentions: [
        "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
      ]
      +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4813 …}
      +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4815 …}
      +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4817 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4819 …}
      +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4821 …}
      +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4823 …}
      -id: 17962
      -bodyTs: "'anyway':26 'cheapest':25 'cloud':4 'disk':17 'go':21 'lot':15 'need':13 'realli':12 'space':18 'storag':5 'syncth':9 'use':3,8"
      +ranking: 0
      +commentCount: 0
      +upVotes: 0
      +downVotes: 0
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +apId: "https://lemmy.ml/comment/108718"
      +editedAt: null
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1642197483 {#4808
        date: 2022-01-14 22:58:03.0 +01:00
      }
    }
    +root: App\Entity\EntryComment {#4812}
    +body: "What’s the difference between syncthing and just setting up a NAS? basically just not having to buy the hardware and using the computer you already have?"
    +lang: "en"
    +isAdult: false
    +favouriteCount: 2
    +score: 0
    +lastActive: DateTime @1689439072 {#4902
      date: 2023-07-15 18:37:52.0 +02:00
    }
    +ip: null
    +tags: null
    +mentions: [
      "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
      "@dessalines@lemmy.ml"
    ]
    +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4893 …}
    +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4891 …}
    +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4889 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4904 …}
    +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4906 …}
    +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4908 …}
    -id: 18350
    -bodyTs: "'alreadi':26 'basic':13 'buy':18 'comput':24 'differ':4 'hardwar':20 'nas':12 'set':9 'syncth':6 'use':22"
    +ranking: 0
    +commentCount: 0
    +upVotes: 0
    +downVotes: 0
    +visibility: "visible             "
    +apId: "https://lemdro.id/comment/359872"
    +editedAt: null
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689439072 {#4899
      date: 2023-07-15 18:37:52.0 +02:00
    }
  }
  +root: App\Entity\EntryComment {#4812}
  +body: "Not having to setup and maintain an additional machine would be my guess. So yea exactly what you said"
  +lang: "en"
  +isAdult: false
  +favouriteCount: 2
  +score: 0
  +lastActive: DateTime @1689443605 {#5025
    date: 2023-07-15 19:53:25.0 +02:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +tags: null
  +mentions: [
    "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
    "@dessalines@lemmy.ml"
    "@Resolved3874@lemdro.id"
  ]
  +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5029 …}
  +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5031 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5033 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5035 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5037 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5039 …}
  -id: 18495
  -bodyTs: "'addit':8 'exact':16 'guess':13 'machin':9 'maintain':6 'said':19 'setup':4 'would':10 'yea':15"
  +ranking: 0
  +commentCount: 0
  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://iusearchlinux.fyi/comment/745548"
  +editedAt: null
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689443605 {#5026
    date: 2023-07-15 19:53:25.0 +02:00
  }
}
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
101 DENIED ROLE_USER 
null
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
102 DENIED moderate 
App\Entity\EntryComment {#5095
  +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#4894 …}
  +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419
    +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#1970 …}
    +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265
      +icon: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#246 …}
      +name: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +title: "asklemmy"
      +description: """
        A loosely moderated place to ask open-ended questions\n
        \n
        **[Search asklemmy](https://lemmy.ml/search?q=&type=Posts&listingType=All&communityId=8&page=1&sort=TopAll) 🔍**\n
        \n
        If your post meets the following criteria, it’s welcome here!\n
        \n
        1. Open-ended\n
        2. Not offensive: at this point, we do not have the bandwidth to moderate overtly political discussions\n
        3. **Not regarding using or support for Lemmy**: [context](https://lemmy.ml/post/1223478), find help in the list of support alternatives below\n
        4. Not ad nauseam inducing: please make sure it is a question that would be new to most members\n
        5. [An actual topic of discussion](https://lemmy.ml/post/1239589)\n
        \n
        Support alternatives:\n
        \n
        - [!lemmy_support@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/lemmy_support)\n
        - [!nostupidlemmyquestions@lemmy.dbzer0.com](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/nostupidlemmyquestions)\n
        - [!selfhosted@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/selfhosted)\n
        \n
        ~Icon~ ~by~ ~@Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de~
        """
      +rules: null
      +subscriptionsCount: 0
      +entryCount: 580
      +entryCommentCount: 15558
      +postCount: 7
      +postCommentCount: 129
      +isAdult: false
      +customCss: null
      +lastActive: DateTime @1689748304 {#275
        date: 2023-07-19 08:31:44.0 +02:00
      }
      +markedForDeletionAt: null
      +tags: null
      +moderators: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#237 …}
      +ownershipRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#233 …}
      +moderatorRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#222 …}
      +entries: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#180 …}
      +posts: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#138 …}
      +subscriptions: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#200 …}
      +bans: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#117 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#103 …}
      +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#81 …}
      +logs: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#71 …}
      +awards: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1346 …}
      +categories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1823 …}
      -id: 9
      +apId: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +apProfileId: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apPublicUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apFollowersUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy/followers"
      +apInboxUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/inbox"
      +apDomain: "lemmy.ml"
      +apPreferredUsername: "asklemmy"
      +apDiscoverable: true
      +apManuallyApprovesFollowers: null
      +privateKey: null
      +publicKey: null
      +apFetchedAt: DateTime @1689747596 {#269
        date: 2023-07-19 08:19:56.0 +02:00
      }
      +apDeletedAt: null
      +apTimeoutAt: null
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1686889707 {#271
        date: 2023-06-16 06:28:27.0 +02:00
      }
    }
    +image: null
    +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#1915 …}
    +slug: "Best-options-for-Non-Google-cloud-storage-as-of-2022"
    +title: "Best options for Non-Google cloud storage as of 2022?"
    +url: null
    +body: """
      What are Lemmy’s feelings about the best cloud storage options these days, if you really want to break into the 1-2TB range? I’m not there yet, probably not even halfway there, but I like the peace of mind of potentially having the space if I need it. And I think subscribing to something in the Netflix price range is maybe something I’m ready for.\n
      \n
      My thoughts so far:\n
      \n
      [pcloud](https://www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime) - Intriguing because you can pay for a “lifetime” plan of 2TB of storage. But it’s $350, which is a lot, and I don’t know that I love the interface or usability, and I don’t know if I trust them.\n
      \n
      [iDrive](https://www.idrive.com/pricing) - Super affordable. 5tb for “just” $80/year. It might be the best deal, but nothing about their identity suggests to me that they are “good guys.” By which I mean, I’m not sure I trust them to make long-term promises for any specific plan.\n
      \n
      [Mega](https://mega.io/pro) - I like its very anti-google, very encrypted attitude. Born from the ashes of megaupload, they built encryption and zero knowledge into it. I LOVE that you can connect to it through the android app Solid Explorer and therefore don’t even need the mega app if you don’t want it. I hear bad things about it though? And it’s pretty expensive at $115 per year for 2TB.\n
      \n
      My personal thoughts/reasoning/caveats:\n
      \n
      **Homebrew stuff**: I don’t *quite* trust myself to use a homebrew setup like Nextcloud or Syncthing correctly. There’s too much in terms of labor, upkeep, catastrophic single points of failure where you could lose everything. I feel like I’m 70% of the way to being smart enough to do this.\n
      \n
      **Avoiding the Bad Guys and the Free Stuff**: I’ve tried the free version of just about everything, from Google to Onedrive to Dropbox to Mediafire to Mega. There’s even an android app that offers 1 free terrabyte?? But I don’t want something from the bad guys where I’m going to be integrated into their closed source death drap: Google, Amazon, Microsoft, Apple, and I don’t want a too-good-to-be-true free service where I’m the product.\n
      \n
      I also would prefer to avoid something from the upstarts who kinda-sorta imitate the bad guys: Dropbox, Mediafire, Box. Because I’m not sure how much I can trust any specific long term promise from them.\n
      \n
      **It sounds like you’re saying nothing is good enough! What exactly do you want!?** Something from good guys, not bad guys. Something like [Standardnotes](https://standardnotes.com/), but for file storage. They emphasize privacy, good governance principles and longevity of their service. Or [Linode](https://www.linode.com/support-experience/), with their independence, sense of mission, love of Linux & free software, all of which tells me they are good guys.\n
      \n
      Probably the correct answer is (1) here’s this magical perfect source I never thought of, or (2) I’m thinking this much about it, I should probably do Nextcloud or syncthing given all the constraints that I’m putting out there.\n
      \n
      Anyway, that’s my thoughts on cloud storage. What are yours?
      """
    +type: "article"
    +lang: "en"
    +isOc: false
    +hasEmbed: false
    +commentCount: 25
    +favouriteCount: 41
    +score: 0
    +isAdult: false
    +sticky: false
    +lastActive: DateTime @1689719793 {#2414
      date: 2023-07-19 00:36:33.0 +02:00
    }
    +ip: null
    +adaAmount: 0
    +tags: null
    +mentions: null
    +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1884 …}
    +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1973 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1959 …}
    +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1927 …}
    +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2442 …}
    +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2440 …}
    +children: []
    -id: 1294
    -titleTs: "'2022':11 'best':1 'cloud':7 'googl':6 'non':5 'non-googl':4 'option':2 'storag':8"
    -bodyTs: "'-2':23 '/),':451 '/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':77 '/pricing)':123 '/pro)':173 '/support-experience/),':471 '1':22,337,497 '115':240 '2':509 '2tb':88,244 '350':94 '5tb':126 '70':290 '80/year':129 'afford':125 'also':387 'amazon':364 'android':208,333 'answer':495 'anti':179 'anti-googl':178 'anyway':534 'app':209,220,334 'appl':366 'ash':187 'attitud':183 'avoid':301,391 'bad':229,303,348,402,444 'best':8,134 'born':184 'box':406 'break':19 'built':191 'catastroph':275 'close':359 'cloud':9,540 'connect':203 'constraint':527 'correct':265,494 'could':282 'day':13 'deal':135 'death':361 'drap':362 'dropbox':324,404 'emphas':457 'encrypt':182,192 'enough':297,433 'even':33,216,331 'everyth':284,318 'exact':435 'expens':238 'explor':211 'failur':279 'far':73 'feel':5,286 'file':454 'free':307,313,338,379,481 'given':524 'go':353 'good':147,375,432,441,459,490 'googl':180,320,363 'govern':460 'guy':148,304,349,403,442,445,491 'halfway':34 'hear':228 'homebrew':248,259 'ident':140 'idriv':120 'imit':400 'independ':474 'integr':356 'interfac':108 'intrigu':78 'kinda':398 'kinda-sorta':397 'know':103,115 'knowledg':195 'labor':273 'lemmi':3 'lifetim':85 'like':38,175,261,287,426,447 'linod':468 'linux':480 'long':163,419 'long-term':162 'longev':463 'lose':283 'lot':98 'love':106,199,478 'm':27,67,154,289,352,383,409,511,530 'magic':501 'make':161 'mayb':64 'mean':152 'mediafir':326,405 'mega':170,219,328 'mega.io':172 'mega.io/pro)':171 'megaupload':189 'microsoft':365 'might':131 'mind':42 'mission':477 'much':269,413,514 'need':50,217 'netflix':60 'never':505 'nextcloud':262,521 'noth':137,430 'offer':336 'onedr':322 'option':11 'pay':82 'pcloud':74 'peac':40 'per':241 'perfect':502 'person':246 'plan':86,169 'point':277 'potenti':44 'prefer':389 'pretti':237 'price':61 'principl':461 'privaci':458 'probabl':31,492,519 'product':385 'promis':165,421 'put':531 'quit':253 'rang':25,62 're':428 'readi':68 'realli':16 'say':429 'sens':475 'servic':380,466 'setup':260 'singl':276 'smart':296 'softwar':482 'solid':210 'someth':57,65,345,392,439,446 'sorta':399 'sound':425 'sourc':360,503 'space':47 'specif':168,418 'standardnot':448 'standardnotes.com':450 'standardnotes.com/),':449 'storag':10,90,455,541 'stuff':249,308 'subscrib':55 'suggest':141 'super':124 'sure':156,411 'syncth':264,523 'tb':24 'tell':486 'term':164,271,420 'terrabyt':339 'therefor':213 'thing':230 'think':54,512 'though':233 'thought':71,506,538 'thoughts/reasoning/caveats':247 'too-good-to-be-tru':373 'tri':311 'true':378 'trust':118,158,254,416 'upkeep':274 'upstart':395 'usabl':110 'use':257 've':310 'version':314 'want':17,225,344,371,438 'way':293 'would':388 'www.idrive.com':122 'www.idrive.com/pricing)':121 'www.linode.com':470 'www.linode.com/support-experience/),':469 'www.pcloud.com':76 'www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':75 'year':242 'yet':30 'zero':194"
    +cross: false
    +upVotes: 0
    +downVotes: 0
    +ranking: 1642260128
    +visibility: "visible             "
    +apId: "https://lemmy.ml/post/149005"
    +editedAt: null
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1642173728 {#1793
      date: 2022-01-14 16:22:08.0 +01:00
    }
  }
  +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
  +image: null
  +parent: App\Entity\EntryComment {#5027
    +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#5028 …}
    +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419}
    +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
    +image: null
    +parent: App\Entity\EntryComment {#4901
      +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#4894 …}
      +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419}
      +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
      +image: null
      +parent: App\Entity\EntryComment {#4812
        +user: App\Entity\User {#4825 …}
        +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419}
        +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
        +image: null
        +parent: null
        +root: null
        +body: "Don’t use cloud storage at all, use syncthing. If you really need a lot of disk space, that’s going to be the cheapest anyway."
        +lang: "en"
        +isAdult: false
        +favouriteCount: 8
        +score: 0
        +lastActive: DateTime @1689447147 {#4807
          date: 2023-07-15 20:52:27.0 +02:00
        }
        +ip: null
        +tags: null
        +mentions: [
          "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
        ]
        +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4813 …}
        +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4815 …}
        +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4817 …}
        +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4819 …}
        +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4821 …}
        +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4823 …}
        -id: 17962
        -bodyTs: "'anyway':26 'cheapest':25 'cloud':4 'disk':17 'go':21 'lot':15 'need':13 'realli':12 'space':18 'storag':5 'syncth':9 'use':3,8"
        +ranking: 0
        +commentCount: 0
        +upVotes: 0
        +downVotes: 0
        +visibility: "visible             "
        +apId: "https://lemmy.ml/comment/108718"
        +editedAt: null
        +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1642197483 {#4808
          date: 2022-01-14 22:58:03.0 +01:00
        }
      }
      +root: App\Entity\EntryComment {#4812}
      +body: "What’s the difference between syncthing and just setting up a NAS? basically just not having to buy the hardware and using the computer you already have?"
      +lang: "en"
      +isAdult: false
      +favouriteCount: 2
      +score: 0
      +lastActive: DateTime @1689439072 {#4902
        date: 2023-07-15 18:37:52.0 +02:00
      }
      +ip: null
      +tags: null
      +mentions: [
        "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
        "@dessalines@lemmy.ml"
      ]
      +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4893 …}
      +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4891 …}
      +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4889 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4904 …}
      +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4906 …}
      +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4908 …}
      -id: 18350
      -bodyTs: "'alreadi':26 'basic':13 'buy':18 'comput':24 'differ':4 'hardwar':20 'nas':12 'set':9 'syncth':6 'use':22"
      +ranking: 0
      +commentCount: 0
      +upVotes: 0
      +downVotes: 0
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +apId: "https://lemdro.id/comment/359872"
      +editedAt: null
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689439072 {#4899
        date: 2023-07-15 18:37:52.0 +02:00
      }
    }
    +root: App\Entity\EntryComment {#4812}
    +body: "Not having to setup and maintain an additional machine would be my guess. So yea exactly what you said"
    +lang: "en"
    +isAdult: false
    +favouriteCount: 2
    +score: 0
    +lastActive: DateTime @1689443605 {#5025
      date: 2023-07-15 19:53:25.0 +02:00
    }
    +ip: null
    +tags: null
    +mentions: [
      "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
      "@dessalines@lemmy.ml"
      "@Resolved3874@lemdro.id"
    ]
    +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5029 …}
    +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5031 …}
    +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5033 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5035 …}
    +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5037 …}
    +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5039 …}
    -id: 18495
    -bodyTs: "'addit':8 'exact':16 'guess':13 'machin':9 'maintain':6 'said':19 'setup':4 'would':10 'yea':15"
    +ranking: 0
    +commentCount: 0
    +upVotes: 0
    +downVotes: 0
    +visibility: "visible             "
    +apId: "https://iusearchlinux.fyi/comment/745548"
    +editedAt: null
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689443605 {#5026
      date: 2023-07-15 19:53:25.0 +02:00
    }
  }
  +root: App\Entity\EntryComment {#4812}
  +body: "Makes sense. I would want it to back up my main machine somewhere though. I guess I would have to go cloud or finally bite the bullet on a NAS."
  +lang: "en"
  +isAdult: false
  +favouriteCount: 1
  +score: 0
  +lastActive: DateTime @1689447136 {#5093
    date: 2023-07-15 20:52:16.0 +02:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +tags: null
  +mentions: [
    "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
    "@dessalines@lemmy.ml"
    "@Resolved3874@lemdro.id"
    "@ipipip@iusearchlinux.fyi"
  ]
  +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5096 …}
  +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5098 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5100 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5102 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5104 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5106 …}
  -id: 18578
  -bodyTs: "'back':8 'bite':25 'bullet':27 'cloud':22 'final':24 'go':21 'guess':16 'machin':12 'main':11 'make':1 'nas':30 'sens':2 'somewher':13 'though':14 'want':5 'would':4,18"
  +ranking: 0
  +commentCount: 0
  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://lemdro.id/comment/363199"
  +editedAt: null
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689447136 {#5094
    date: 2023-07-15 20:52:16.0 +02:00
  }
}
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
103 DENIED edit 
App\Entity\EntryComment {#5095
  +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#4894 …}
  +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419
    +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#1970 …}
    +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265
      +icon: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#246 …}
      +name: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +title: "asklemmy"
      +description: """
        A loosely moderated place to ask open-ended questions\n
        \n
        **[Search asklemmy](https://lemmy.ml/search?q=&type=Posts&listingType=All&communityId=8&page=1&sort=TopAll) 🔍**\n
        \n
        If your post meets the following criteria, it’s welcome here!\n
        \n
        1. Open-ended\n
        2. Not offensive: at this point, we do not have the bandwidth to moderate overtly political discussions\n
        3. **Not regarding using or support for Lemmy**: [context](https://lemmy.ml/post/1223478), find help in the list of support alternatives below\n
        4. Not ad nauseam inducing: please make sure it is a question that would be new to most members\n
        5. [An actual topic of discussion](https://lemmy.ml/post/1239589)\n
        \n
        Support alternatives:\n
        \n
        - [!lemmy_support@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/lemmy_support)\n
        - [!nostupidlemmyquestions@lemmy.dbzer0.com](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/nostupidlemmyquestions)\n
        - [!selfhosted@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/selfhosted)\n
        \n
        ~Icon~ ~by~ ~@Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de~
        """
      +rules: null
      +subscriptionsCount: 0
      +entryCount: 580
      +entryCommentCount: 15558
      +postCount: 7
      +postCommentCount: 129
      +isAdult: false
      +customCss: null
      +lastActive: DateTime @1689748304 {#275
        date: 2023-07-19 08:31:44.0 +02:00
      }
      +markedForDeletionAt: null
      +tags: null
      +moderators: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#237 …}
      +ownershipRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#233 …}
      +moderatorRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#222 …}
      +entries: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#180 …}
      +posts: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#138 …}
      +subscriptions: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#200 …}
      +bans: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#117 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#103 …}
      +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#81 …}
      +logs: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#71 …}
      +awards: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1346 …}
      +categories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1823 …}
      -id: 9
      +apId: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +apProfileId: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apPublicUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apFollowersUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy/followers"
      +apInboxUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/inbox"
      +apDomain: "lemmy.ml"
      +apPreferredUsername: "asklemmy"
      +apDiscoverable: true
      +apManuallyApprovesFollowers: null
      +privateKey: null
      +publicKey: null
      +apFetchedAt: DateTime @1689747596 {#269
        date: 2023-07-19 08:19:56.0 +02:00
      }
      +apDeletedAt: null
      +apTimeoutAt: null
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1686889707 {#271
        date: 2023-06-16 06:28:27.0 +02:00
      }
    }
    +image: null
    +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#1915 …}
    +slug: "Best-options-for-Non-Google-cloud-storage-as-of-2022"
    +title: "Best options for Non-Google cloud storage as of 2022?"
    +url: null
    +body: """
      What are Lemmy’s feelings about the best cloud storage options these days, if you really want to break into the 1-2TB range? I’m not there yet, probably not even halfway there, but I like the peace of mind of potentially having the space if I need it. And I think subscribing to something in the Netflix price range is maybe something I’m ready for.\n
      \n
      My thoughts so far:\n
      \n
      [pcloud](https://www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime) - Intriguing because you can pay for a “lifetime” plan of 2TB of storage. But it’s $350, which is a lot, and I don’t know that I love the interface or usability, and I don’t know if I trust them.\n
      \n
      [iDrive](https://www.idrive.com/pricing) - Super affordable. 5tb for “just” $80/year. It might be the best deal, but nothing about their identity suggests to me that they are “good guys.” By which I mean, I’m not sure I trust them to make long-term promises for any specific plan.\n
      \n
      [Mega](https://mega.io/pro) - I like its very anti-google, very encrypted attitude. Born from the ashes of megaupload, they built encryption and zero knowledge into it. I LOVE that you can connect to it through the android app Solid Explorer and therefore don’t even need the mega app if you don’t want it. I hear bad things about it though? And it’s pretty expensive at $115 per year for 2TB.\n
      \n
      My personal thoughts/reasoning/caveats:\n
      \n
      **Homebrew stuff**: I don’t *quite* trust myself to use a homebrew setup like Nextcloud or Syncthing correctly. There’s too much in terms of labor, upkeep, catastrophic single points of failure where you could lose everything. I feel like I’m 70% of the way to being smart enough to do this.\n
      \n
      **Avoiding the Bad Guys and the Free Stuff**: I’ve tried the free version of just about everything, from Google to Onedrive to Dropbox to Mediafire to Mega. There’s even an android app that offers 1 free terrabyte?? But I don’t want something from the bad guys where I’m going to be integrated into their closed source death drap: Google, Amazon, Microsoft, Apple, and I don’t want a too-good-to-be-true free service where I’m the product.\n
      \n
      I also would prefer to avoid something from the upstarts who kinda-sorta imitate the bad guys: Dropbox, Mediafire, Box. Because I’m not sure how much I can trust any specific long term promise from them.\n
      \n
      **It sounds like you’re saying nothing is good enough! What exactly do you want!?** Something from good guys, not bad guys. Something like [Standardnotes](https://standardnotes.com/), but for file storage. They emphasize privacy, good governance principles and longevity of their service. Or [Linode](https://www.linode.com/support-experience/), with their independence, sense of mission, love of Linux & free software, all of which tells me they are good guys.\n
      \n
      Probably the correct answer is (1) here’s this magical perfect source I never thought of, or (2) I’m thinking this much about it, I should probably do Nextcloud or syncthing given all the constraints that I’m putting out there.\n
      \n
      Anyway, that’s my thoughts on cloud storage. What are yours?
      """
    +type: "article"
    +lang: "en"
    +isOc: false
    +hasEmbed: false
    +commentCount: 25
    +favouriteCount: 41
    +score: 0
    +isAdult: false
    +sticky: false
    +lastActive: DateTime @1689719793 {#2414
      date: 2023-07-19 00:36:33.0 +02:00
    }
    +ip: null
    +adaAmount: 0
    +tags: null
    +mentions: null
    +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1884 …}
    +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1973 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1959 …}
    +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1927 …}
    +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2442 …}
    +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2440 …}
    +children: []
    -id: 1294
    -titleTs: "'2022':11 'best':1 'cloud':7 'googl':6 'non':5 'non-googl':4 'option':2 'storag':8"
    -bodyTs: "'-2':23 '/),':451 '/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':77 '/pricing)':123 '/pro)':173 '/support-experience/),':471 '1':22,337,497 '115':240 '2':509 '2tb':88,244 '350':94 '5tb':126 '70':290 '80/year':129 'afford':125 'also':387 'amazon':364 'android':208,333 'answer':495 'anti':179 'anti-googl':178 'anyway':534 'app':209,220,334 'appl':366 'ash':187 'attitud':183 'avoid':301,391 'bad':229,303,348,402,444 'best':8,134 'born':184 'box':406 'break':19 'built':191 'catastroph':275 'close':359 'cloud':9,540 'connect':203 'constraint':527 'correct':265,494 'could':282 'day':13 'deal':135 'death':361 'drap':362 'dropbox':324,404 'emphas':457 'encrypt':182,192 'enough':297,433 'even':33,216,331 'everyth':284,318 'exact':435 'expens':238 'explor':211 'failur':279 'far':73 'feel':5,286 'file':454 'free':307,313,338,379,481 'given':524 'go':353 'good':147,375,432,441,459,490 'googl':180,320,363 'govern':460 'guy':148,304,349,403,442,445,491 'halfway':34 'hear':228 'homebrew':248,259 'ident':140 'idriv':120 'imit':400 'independ':474 'integr':356 'interfac':108 'intrigu':78 'kinda':398 'kinda-sorta':397 'know':103,115 'knowledg':195 'labor':273 'lemmi':3 'lifetim':85 'like':38,175,261,287,426,447 'linod':468 'linux':480 'long':163,419 'long-term':162 'longev':463 'lose':283 'lot':98 'love':106,199,478 'm':27,67,154,289,352,383,409,511,530 'magic':501 'make':161 'mayb':64 'mean':152 'mediafir':326,405 'mega':170,219,328 'mega.io':172 'mega.io/pro)':171 'megaupload':189 'microsoft':365 'might':131 'mind':42 'mission':477 'much':269,413,514 'need':50,217 'netflix':60 'never':505 'nextcloud':262,521 'noth':137,430 'offer':336 'onedr':322 'option':11 'pay':82 'pcloud':74 'peac':40 'per':241 'perfect':502 'person':246 'plan':86,169 'point':277 'potenti':44 'prefer':389 'pretti':237 'price':61 'principl':461 'privaci':458 'probabl':31,492,519 'product':385 'promis':165,421 'put':531 'quit':253 'rang':25,62 're':428 'readi':68 'realli':16 'say':429 'sens':475 'servic':380,466 'setup':260 'singl':276 'smart':296 'softwar':482 'solid':210 'someth':57,65,345,392,439,446 'sorta':399 'sound':425 'sourc':360,503 'space':47 'specif':168,418 'standardnot':448 'standardnotes.com':450 'standardnotes.com/),':449 'storag':10,90,455,541 'stuff':249,308 'subscrib':55 'suggest':141 'super':124 'sure':156,411 'syncth':264,523 'tb':24 'tell':486 'term':164,271,420 'terrabyt':339 'therefor':213 'thing':230 'think':54,512 'though':233 'thought':71,506,538 'thoughts/reasoning/caveats':247 'too-good-to-be-tru':373 'tri':311 'true':378 'trust':118,158,254,416 'upkeep':274 'upstart':395 'usabl':110 'use':257 've':310 'version':314 'want':17,225,344,371,438 'way':293 'would':388 'www.idrive.com':122 'www.idrive.com/pricing)':121 'www.linode.com':470 'www.linode.com/support-experience/),':469 'www.pcloud.com':76 'www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':75 'year':242 'yet':30 'zero':194"
    +cross: false
    +upVotes: 0
    +downVotes: 0
    +ranking: 1642260128
    +visibility: "visible             "
    +apId: "https://lemmy.ml/post/149005"
    +editedAt: null
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1642173728 {#1793
      date: 2022-01-14 16:22:08.0 +01:00
    }
  }
  +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
  +image: null
  +parent: App\Entity\EntryComment {#5027
    +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#5028 …}
    +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419}
    +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
    +image: null
    +parent: App\Entity\EntryComment {#4901
      +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#4894 …}
      +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419}
      +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
      +image: null
      +parent: App\Entity\EntryComment {#4812
        +user: App\Entity\User {#4825 …}
        +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419}
        +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
        +image: null
        +parent: null
        +root: null
        +body: "Don’t use cloud storage at all, use syncthing. If you really need a lot of disk space, that’s going to be the cheapest anyway."
        +lang: "en"
        +isAdult: false
        +favouriteCount: 8
        +score: 0
        +lastActive: DateTime @1689447147 {#4807
          date: 2023-07-15 20:52:27.0 +02:00
        }
        +ip: null
        +tags: null
        +mentions: [
          "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
        ]
        +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4813 …}
        +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4815 …}
        +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4817 …}
        +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4819 …}
        +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4821 …}
        +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4823 …}
        -id: 17962
        -bodyTs: "'anyway':26 'cheapest':25 'cloud':4 'disk':17 'go':21 'lot':15 'need':13 'realli':12 'space':18 'storag':5 'syncth':9 'use':3,8"
        +ranking: 0
        +commentCount: 0
        +upVotes: 0
        +downVotes: 0
        +visibility: "visible             "
        +apId: "https://lemmy.ml/comment/108718"
        +editedAt: null
        +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1642197483 {#4808
          date: 2022-01-14 22:58:03.0 +01:00
        }
      }
      +root: App\Entity\EntryComment {#4812}
      +body: "What’s the difference between syncthing and just setting up a NAS? basically just not having to buy the hardware and using the computer you already have?"
      +lang: "en"
      +isAdult: false
      +favouriteCount: 2
      +score: 0
      +lastActive: DateTime @1689439072 {#4902
        date: 2023-07-15 18:37:52.0 +02:00
      }
      +ip: null
      +tags: null
      +mentions: [
        "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
        "@dessalines@lemmy.ml"
      ]
      +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4893 …}
      +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4891 …}
      +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4889 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4904 …}
      +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4906 …}
      +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4908 …}
      -id: 18350
      -bodyTs: "'alreadi':26 'basic':13 'buy':18 'comput':24 'differ':4 'hardwar':20 'nas':12 'set':9 'syncth':6 'use':22"
      +ranking: 0
      +commentCount: 0
      +upVotes: 0
      +downVotes: 0
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +apId: "https://lemdro.id/comment/359872"
      +editedAt: null
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689439072 {#4899
        date: 2023-07-15 18:37:52.0 +02:00
      }
    }
    +root: App\Entity\EntryComment {#4812}
    +body: "Not having to setup and maintain an additional machine would be my guess. So yea exactly what you said"
    +lang: "en"
    +isAdult: false
    +favouriteCount: 2
    +score: 0
    +lastActive: DateTime @1689443605 {#5025
      date: 2023-07-15 19:53:25.0 +02:00
    }
    +ip: null
    +tags: null
    +mentions: [
      "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
      "@dessalines@lemmy.ml"
      "@Resolved3874@lemdro.id"
    ]
    +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5029 …}
    +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5031 …}
    +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5033 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5035 …}
    +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5037 …}
    +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5039 …}
    -id: 18495
    -bodyTs: "'addit':8 'exact':16 'guess':13 'machin':9 'maintain':6 'said':19 'setup':4 'would':10 'yea':15"
    +ranking: 0
    +commentCount: 0
    +upVotes: 0
    +downVotes: 0
    +visibility: "visible             "
    +apId: "https://iusearchlinux.fyi/comment/745548"
    +editedAt: null
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689443605 {#5026
      date: 2023-07-15 19:53:25.0 +02:00
    }
  }
  +root: App\Entity\EntryComment {#4812}
  +body: "Makes sense. I would want it to back up my main machine somewhere though. I guess I would have to go cloud or finally bite the bullet on a NAS."
  +lang: "en"
  +isAdult: false
  +favouriteCount: 1
  +score: 0
  +lastActive: DateTime @1689447136 {#5093
    date: 2023-07-15 20:52:16.0 +02:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +tags: null
  +mentions: [
    "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
    "@dessalines@lemmy.ml"
    "@Resolved3874@lemdro.id"
    "@ipipip@iusearchlinux.fyi"
  ]
  +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5096 …}
  +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5098 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5100 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5102 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5104 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5106 …}
  -id: 18578
  -bodyTs: "'back':8 'bite':25 'bullet':27 'cloud':22 'final':24 'go':21 'guess':16 'machin':12 'main':11 'make':1 'nas':30 'sens':2 'somewher':13 'though':14 'want':5 'would':4,18"
  +ranking: 0
  +commentCount: 0
  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://lemdro.id/comment/363199"
  +editedAt: null
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689447136 {#5094
    date: 2023-07-15 20:52:16.0 +02:00
  }
}
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
104 DENIED moderate 
App\Entity\EntryComment {#5095
  +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#4894 …}
  +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419
    +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#1970 …}
    +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265
      +icon: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#246 …}
      +name: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +title: "asklemmy"
      +description: """
        A loosely moderated place to ask open-ended questions\n
        \n
        **[Search asklemmy](https://lemmy.ml/search?q=&type=Posts&listingType=All&communityId=8&page=1&sort=TopAll) 🔍**\n
        \n
        If your post meets the following criteria, it’s welcome here!\n
        \n
        1. Open-ended\n
        2. Not offensive: at this point, we do not have the bandwidth to moderate overtly political discussions\n
        3. **Not regarding using or support for Lemmy**: [context](https://lemmy.ml/post/1223478), find help in the list of support alternatives below\n
        4. Not ad nauseam inducing: please make sure it is a question that would be new to most members\n
        5. [An actual topic of discussion](https://lemmy.ml/post/1239589)\n
        \n
        Support alternatives:\n
        \n
        - [!lemmy_support@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/lemmy_support)\n
        - [!nostupidlemmyquestions@lemmy.dbzer0.com](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/nostupidlemmyquestions)\n
        - [!selfhosted@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/selfhosted)\n
        \n
        ~Icon~ ~by~ ~@Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de~
        """
      +rules: null
      +subscriptionsCount: 0
      +entryCount: 580
      +entryCommentCount: 15558
      +postCount: 7
      +postCommentCount: 129
      +isAdult: false
      +customCss: null
      +lastActive: DateTime @1689748304 {#275
        date: 2023-07-19 08:31:44.0 +02:00
      }
      +markedForDeletionAt: null
      +tags: null
      +moderators: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#237 …}
      +ownershipRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#233 …}
      +moderatorRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#222 …}
      +entries: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#180 …}
      +posts: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#138 …}
      +subscriptions: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#200 …}
      +bans: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#117 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#103 …}
      +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#81 …}
      +logs: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#71 …}
      +awards: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1346 …}
      +categories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1823 …}
      -id: 9
      +apId: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
      +apProfileId: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apPublicUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
      +apFollowersUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy/followers"
      +apInboxUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/inbox"
      +apDomain: "lemmy.ml"
      +apPreferredUsername: "asklemmy"
      +apDiscoverable: true
      +apManuallyApprovesFollowers: null
      +privateKey: null
      +publicKey: null
      +apFetchedAt: DateTime @1689747596 {#269
        date: 2023-07-19 08:19:56.0 +02:00
      }
      +apDeletedAt: null
      +apTimeoutAt: null
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1686889707 {#271
        date: 2023-06-16 06:28:27.0 +02:00
      }
    }
    +image: null
    +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#1915 …}
    +slug: "Best-options-for-Non-Google-cloud-storage-as-of-2022"
    +title: "Best options for Non-Google cloud storage as of 2022?"
    +url: null
    +body: """
      What are Lemmy’s feelings about the best cloud storage options these days, if you really want to break into the 1-2TB range? I’m not there yet, probably not even halfway there, but I like the peace of mind of potentially having the space if I need it. And I think subscribing to something in the Netflix price range is maybe something I’m ready for.\n
      \n
      My thoughts so far:\n
      \n
      [pcloud](https://www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime) - Intriguing because you can pay for a “lifetime” plan of 2TB of storage. But it’s $350, which is a lot, and I don’t know that I love the interface or usability, and I don’t know if I trust them.\n
      \n
      [iDrive](https://www.idrive.com/pricing) - Super affordable. 5tb for “just” $80/year. It might be the best deal, but nothing about their identity suggests to me that they are “good guys.” By which I mean, I’m not sure I trust them to make long-term promises for any specific plan.\n
      \n
      [Mega](https://mega.io/pro) - I like its very anti-google, very encrypted attitude. Born from the ashes of megaupload, they built encryption and zero knowledge into it. I LOVE that you can connect to it through the android app Solid Explorer and therefore don’t even need the mega app if you don’t want it. I hear bad things about it though? And it’s pretty expensive at $115 per year for 2TB.\n
      \n
      My personal thoughts/reasoning/caveats:\n
      \n
      **Homebrew stuff**: I don’t *quite* trust myself to use a homebrew setup like Nextcloud or Syncthing correctly. There’s too much in terms of labor, upkeep, catastrophic single points of failure where you could lose everything. I feel like I’m 70% of the way to being smart enough to do this.\n
      \n
      **Avoiding the Bad Guys and the Free Stuff**: I’ve tried the free version of just about everything, from Google to Onedrive to Dropbox to Mediafire to Mega. There’s even an android app that offers 1 free terrabyte?? But I don’t want something from the bad guys where I’m going to be integrated into their closed source death drap: Google, Amazon, Microsoft, Apple, and I don’t want a too-good-to-be-true free service where I’m the product.\n
      \n
      I also would prefer to avoid something from the upstarts who kinda-sorta imitate the bad guys: Dropbox, Mediafire, Box. Because I’m not sure how much I can trust any specific long term promise from them.\n
      \n
      **It sounds like you’re saying nothing is good enough! What exactly do you want!?** Something from good guys, not bad guys. Something like [Standardnotes](https://standardnotes.com/), but for file storage. They emphasize privacy, good governance principles and longevity of their service. Or [Linode](https://www.linode.com/support-experience/), with their independence, sense of mission, love of Linux & free software, all of which tells me they are good guys.\n
      \n
      Probably the correct answer is (1) here’s this magical perfect source I never thought of, or (2) I’m thinking this much about it, I should probably do Nextcloud or syncthing given all the constraints that I’m putting out there.\n
      \n
      Anyway, that’s my thoughts on cloud storage. What are yours?
      """
    +type: "article"
    +lang: "en"
    +isOc: false
    +hasEmbed: false
    +commentCount: 25
    +favouriteCount: 41
    +score: 0
    +isAdult: false
    +sticky: false
    +lastActive: DateTime @1689719793 {#2414
      date: 2023-07-19 00:36:33.0 +02:00
    }
    +ip: null
    +adaAmount: 0
    +tags: null
    +mentions: null
    +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1884 …}
    +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1973 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1959 …}
    +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1927 …}
    +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2442 …}
    +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2440 …}
    +children: []
    -id: 1294
    -titleTs: "'2022':11 'best':1 'cloud':7 'googl':6 'non':5 'non-googl':4 'option':2 'storag':8"
    -bodyTs: "'-2':23 '/),':451 '/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':77 '/pricing)':123 '/pro)':173 '/support-experience/),':471 '1':22,337,497 '115':240 '2':509 '2tb':88,244 '350':94 '5tb':126 '70':290 '80/year':129 'afford':125 'also':387 'amazon':364 'android':208,333 'answer':495 'anti':179 'anti-googl':178 'anyway':534 'app':209,220,334 'appl':366 'ash':187 'attitud':183 'avoid':301,391 'bad':229,303,348,402,444 'best':8,134 'born':184 'box':406 'break':19 'built':191 'catastroph':275 'close':359 'cloud':9,540 'connect':203 'constraint':527 'correct':265,494 'could':282 'day':13 'deal':135 'death':361 'drap':362 'dropbox':324,404 'emphas':457 'encrypt':182,192 'enough':297,433 'even':33,216,331 'everyth':284,318 'exact':435 'expens':238 'explor':211 'failur':279 'far':73 'feel':5,286 'file':454 'free':307,313,338,379,481 'given':524 'go':353 'good':147,375,432,441,459,490 'googl':180,320,363 'govern':460 'guy':148,304,349,403,442,445,491 'halfway':34 'hear':228 'homebrew':248,259 'ident':140 'idriv':120 'imit':400 'independ':474 'integr':356 'interfac':108 'intrigu':78 'kinda':398 'kinda-sorta':397 'know':103,115 'knowledg':195 'labor':273 'lemmi':3 'lifetim':85 'like':38,175,261,287,426,447 'linod':468 'linux':480 'long':163,419 'long-term':162 'longev':463 'lose':283 'lot':98 'love':106,199,478 'm':27,67,154,289,352,383,409,511,530 'magic':501 'make':161 'mayb':64 'mean':152 'mediafir':326,405 'mega':170,219,328 'mega.io':172 'mega.io/pro)':171 'megaupload':189 'microsoft':365 'might':131 'mind':42 'mission':477 'much':269,413,514 'need':50,217 'netflix':60 'never':505 'nextcloud':262,521 'noth':137,430 'offer':336 'onedr':322 'option':11 'pay':82 'pcloud':74 'peac':40 'per':241 'perfect':502 'person':246 'plan':86,169 'point':277 'potenti':44 'prefer':389 'pretti':237 'price':61 'principl':461 'privaci':458 'probabl':31,492,519 'product':385 'promis':165,421 'put':531 'quit':253 'rang':25,62 're':428 'readi':68 'realli':16 'say':429 'sens':475 'servic':380,466 'setup':260 'singl':276 'smart':296 'softwar':482 'solid':210 'someth':57,65,345,392,439,446 'sorta':399 'sound':425 'sourc':360,503 'space':47 'specif':168,418 'standardnot':448 'standardnotes.com':450 'standardnotes.com/),':449 'storag':10,90,455,541 'stuff':249,308 'subscrib':55 'suggest':141 'super':124 'sure':156,411 'syncth':264,523 'tb':24 'tell':486 'term':164,271,420 'terrabyt':339 'therefor':213 'thing':230 'think':54,512 'though':233 'thought':71,506,538 'thoughts/reasoning/caveats':247 'too-good-to-be-tru':373 'tri':311 'true':378 'trust':118,158,254,416 'upkeep':274 'upstart':395 'usabl':110 'use':257 've':310 'version':314 'want':17,225,344,371,438 'way':293 'would':388 'www.idrive.com':122 'www.idrive.com/pricing)':121 'www.linode.com':470 'www.linode.com/support-experience/),':469 'www.pcloud.com':76 'www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime)':75 'year':242 'yet':30 'zero':194"
    +cross: false
    +upVotes: 0
    +downVotes: 0
    +ranking: 1642260128
    +visibility: "visible             "
    +apId: "https://lemmy.ml/post/149005"
    +editedAt: null
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1642173728 {#1793
      date: 2022-01-14 16:22:08.0 +01:00
    }
  }
  +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
  +image: null
  +parent: App\Entity\EntryComment {#5027
    +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#5028 …}
    +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419}
    +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
    +image: null
    +parent: App\Entity\EntryComment {#4901
      +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#4894 …}
      +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419}
      +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
      +image: null
      +parent: App\Entity\EntryComment {#4812
        +user: App\Entity\User {#4825 …}
        +entry: App\Entity\Entry {#2419}
        +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#265}
        +image: null
        +parent: null
        +root: null
        +body: "Don’t use cloud storage at all, use syncthing. If you really need a lot of disk space, that’s going to be the cheapest anyway."
        +lang: "en"
        +isAdult: false
        +favouriteCount: 8
        +score: 0
        +lastActive: DateTime @1689447147 {#4807
          date: 2023-07-15 20:52:27.0 +02:00
        }
        +ip: null
        +tags: null
        +mentions: [
          "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
        ]
        +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4813 …}
        +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4815 …}
        +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4817 …}
        +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4819 …}
        +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4821 …}
        +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4823 …}
        -id: 17962
        -bodyTs: "'anyway':26 'cheapest':25 'cloud':4 'disk':17 'go':21 'lot':15 'need':13 'realli':12 'space':18 'storag':5 'syncth':9 'use':3,8"
        +ranking: 0
        +commentCount: 0
        +upVotes: 0
        +downVotes: 0
        +visibility: "visible             "
        +apId: "https://lemmy.ml/comment/108718"
        +editedAt: null
        +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1642197483 {#4808
          date: 2022-01-14 22:58:03.0 +01:00
        }
      }
      +root: App\Entity\EntryComment {#4812}
      +body: "What’s the difference between syncthing and just setting up a NAS? basically just not having to buy the hardware and using the computer you already have?"
      +lang: "en"
      +isAdult: false
      +favouriteCount: 2
      +score: 0
      +lastActive: DateTime @1689439072 {#4902
        date: 2023-07-15 18:37:52.0 +02:00
      }
      +ip: null
      +tags: null
      +mentions: [
        "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
        "@dessalines@lemmy.ml"
      ]
      +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4893 …}
      +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4891 …}
      +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4889 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4904 …}
      +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4906 …}
      +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#4908 …}
      -id: 18350
      -bodyTs: "'alreadi':26 'basic':13 'buy':18 'comput':24 'differ':4 'hardwar':20 'nas':12 'set':9 'syncth':6 'use':22"
      +ranking: 0
      +commentCount: 0
      +upVotes: 0
      +downVotes: 0
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +apId: "https://lemdro.id/comment/359872"
      +editedAt: null
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689439072 {#4899
        date: 2023-07-15 18:37:52.0 +02:00
      }
    }
    +root: App\Entity\EntryComment {#4812}
    +body: "Not having to setup and maintain an additional machine would be my guess. So yea exactly what you said"
    +lang: "en"
    +isAdult: false
    +favouriteCount: 2
    +score: 0
    +lastActive: DateTime @1689443605 {#5025
      date: 2023-07-15 19:53:25.0 +02:00
    }
    +ip: null
    +tags: null
    +mentions: [
      "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
      "@dessalines@lemmy.ml"
      "@Resolved3874@lemdro.id"
    ]
    +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5029 …}
    +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5031 …}
    +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5033 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5035 …}
    +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5037 …}
    +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5039 …}
    -id: 18495
    -bodyTs: "'addit':8 'exact':16 'guess':13 'machin':9 'maintain':6 'said':19 'setup':4 'would':10 'yea':15"
    +ranking: 0
    +commentCount: 0
    +upVotes: 0
    +downVotes: 0
    +visibility: "visible             "
    +apId: "https://iusearchlinux.fyi/comment/745548"
    +editedAt: null
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689443605 {#5026
      date: 2023-07-15 19:53:25.0 +02:00
    }
  }
  +root: App\Entity\EntryComment {#4812}
  +body: "Makes sense. I would want it to back up my main machine somewhere though. I guess I would have to go cloud or finally bite the bullet on a NAS."
  +lang: "en"
  +isAdult: false
  +favouriteCount: 1
  +score: 0
  +lastActive: DateTime @1689447136 {#5093
    date: 2023-07-15 20:52:16.0 +02:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +tags: null
  +mentions: [
    "@abbenm@lemmy.ml"
    "@dessalines@lemmy.ml"
    "@Resolved3874@lemdro.id"
    "@ipipip@iusearchlinux.fyi"
  ]
  +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5096 …}
  +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5098 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5100 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5102 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5104 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#5106 …}
  -id: 18578
  -bodyTs: "'back':8 'bite':25 'bullet':27 'cloud':22 'final':24 'go':21 'guess':16 'machin':12 'main':11 'make':1 'nas':30 'sens':2 'somewher':13 'though':14 'want':5 'would':4,18"
  +ranking: 0
  +commentCount: 0
  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://lemdro.id/comment/363199"
  +editedAt: null
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1689447136 {#5094
    date: 2023-07-15 20:52:16.0 +02:00
  }
}
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
105 DENIED edit 
App\Entity\Magazine {#265
  +icon: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#246 …}
  +name: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
  +title: "asklemmy"
  +description: """
    A loosely moderated place to ask open-ended questions\n
    \n
    **[Search asklemmy](https://lemmy.ml/search?q=&type=Posts&listingType=All&communityId=8&page=1&sort=TopAll) 🔍**\n
    \n
    If your post meets the following criteria, it’s welcome here!\n
    \n
    1. Open-ended\n
    2. Not offensive: at this point, we do not have the bandwidth to moderate overtly political discussions\n
    3. **Not regarding using or support for Lemmy**: [context](https://lemmy.ml/post/1223478), find help in the list of support alternatives below\n
    4. Not ad nauseam inducing: please make sure it is a question that would be new to most members\n
    5. [An actual topic of discussion](https://lemmy.ml/post/1239589)\n
    \n
    Support alternatives:\n
    \n
    - [!lemmy_support@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/lemmy_support)\n
    - [!nostupidlemmyquestions@lemmy.dbzer0.com](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/nostupidlemmyquestions)\n
    - [!selfhosted@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/selfhosted)\n
    \n
    ~Icon~ ~by~ ~@Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de~
    """
  +rules: null
  +subscriptionsCount: 0
  +entryCount: 580
  +entryCommentCount: 15558
  +postCount: 7
  +postCommentCount: 129
  +isAdult: false
  +customCss: null
  +lastActive: DateTime @1689748304 {#275
    date: 2023-07-19 08:31:44.0 +02:00
  }
  +markedForDeletionAt: null
  +tags: null
  +moderators: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#237 …}
  +ownershipRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#233 …}
  +moderatorRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#222 …}
  +entries: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#180 …}
  +posts: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#138 …}
  +subscriptions: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#200 …}
  +bans: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#117 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#103 …}
  +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#81 …}
  +logs: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#71 …}
  +awards: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1346 …}
  +categories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1823 …}
  -id: 9
  +apId: "asklemmy@lemmy.ml"
  +apProfileId: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
  +apPublicUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy"
  +apFollowersUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy/followers"
  +apInboxUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/inbox"
  +apDomain: "lemmy.ml"
  +apPreferredUsername: "asklemmy"
  +apDiscoverable: true
  +apManuallyApprovesFollowers: null
  +privateKey: null
  +publicKey: null
  +apFetchedAt: DateTime @1689747596 {#269
    date: 2023-07-19 08:19:56.0 +02:00
  }
  +apDeletedAt: null
  +apTimeoutAt: null
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1686889707 {#271
    date: 2023-06-16 06:28:27.0 +02:00
  }
}
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details