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Security

Token

There is no security token.

Firewall

main Name
Security enabled
Stateless

Configuration

Key Value
provider security.user.provider.concrete.app_user_provider
context main
entry_point App\Security\KbinAuthenticator
user_checker App\Security\UserChecker
access_denied_handler (none)
access_denied_url (none)
authenticators
[
  "two_factor"
  "remember_me"
  "App\Security\KbinAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\FacebookAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\GoogleAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\GithubAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\KeycloakAuthenticator"
]

Listeners

Listener Duration Response
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\ChannelListener {#723
  -map: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\AccessMap {#722 …}
  -logger: Monolog\Logger {#783 …}
  -httpPort: 80
  -httpsPort: 443
}
0.00 ms (none)
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\ContextListener {#706
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\TokenStorage {#1017 …}
  -sessionKey: "_security_main"
  -logger: Monolog\Logger {#783 …}
  -userProviders: Symfony\Component\DependencyInjection\Argument\RewindableGenerator {#705 …}
  -dispatcher: Symfony\Component\EventDispatcher\Debug\TraceableEventDispatcher {#747 …}
  -registered: false
  -trustResolver: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authentication\AuthenticationTrustResolver {#780 …}
  -sessionTrackerEnabler: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage::enableUsageTracking(): void {#703 …}
}
0.31 ms (none)
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\AuthenticatorManagerListener {#584
  -authenticatorManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Authentication\AuthenticatorManager {#595 …}
}
0.00 ms (none)
Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Http\Firewall\TwoFactorAccessListener {#582
  -twoFactorFirewallConfig: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\TwoFactor\TwoFactorFirewallConfig {#842 …}
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -twoFactorAccessDecider: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\TwoFactorAccessDecider {#581 …}
}
0.07 ms (none)
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\AccessListener {#579
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -accessDecisionManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\TraceableAccessDecisionManager {#937 …}
  -map: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\AccessMap {#722 …}
}
0.00 ms (none)
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\LogoutListener {#786
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -options: [
    "csrf_parameter" => "_csrf_token"
    "csrf_token_id" => "logout"
    "logout_path" => "app_logout"
  ]
  -httpUtils: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\HttpUtils {#841 …}
  -csrfTokenManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Csrf\CsrfTokenManager {#1015 …}
  -eventDispatcher: Symfony\Component\EventDispatcher\Debug\TraceableEventDispatcher {#747 …}
}
0.00 ms (none)

Authenticators

No authenticators have been recorded. Check previous profiles on your authentication endpoint.

Access Decision

affirmative Strategy
# Voter class
1
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\AuthenticatedVoter"
2
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
3
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
4
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\ExpressionVoter"
5
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
6
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
7
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
8
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
9
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
10
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
11
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
12
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
13
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
14
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"

Access decision log

# Result Attributes Object
1 DENIED moderate
Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#2280
  +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#3037 …}
  +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#2282 …}
  +image: null
  +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#2982 …}
  +slug: "Next-they-ll-want-us-to-sit"
  +title: "Next they'll want us to sit!"
  +url: "https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/0a3f025d-5f31-4d8c-8ba1-15bf05568e2b.jpeg"
  +body: null
  +type: "image"
  +lang: "en"
  +isOc: false
  +hasEmbed: true
  +commentCount: 13
  +favouriteCount: 132
  +score: 0
  +isAdult: false
  +sticky: false
  +lastActive: DateTime @1699811518 {#3071
    date: 2023-11-12 18:51:58.0 +01:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +adaAmount: 0
  +tags: null
  +mentions: null
  +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3078 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3080 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3082 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3084 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3086 …}
  +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3088 …}
  +children: [
    App\Entity\EntryComment {#2283
      +user: App\Entity\User {#259 …}
      +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#2280 …2}
      +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#2282 …}
      +image: null
      +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#2278 …}
      +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#2278 …}
      +body: "You’ll make the other guys jealous."
      +lang: "en"
      +isAdult: false
      +favouriteCount: 1
      +score: 0
      +lastActive: DateTime @1699803379 {#2295
        date: 2023-11-12 16:36:19.0 +01:00
      }
      +ip: null
      +tags: null
      +mentions: [
        "@blahsay@lemmy.world"
        "@Kolanaki@yiffit.net"
      ]
      +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2276 …}
      +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2275 …}
      +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2261 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2218 …}
      +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2221 …}
      +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2217 …}
      -id: 115875
      -bodyTs: "'guy':6 'jealous':7 'll':2 'make':3"
      +ranking: 0
      +commentCount: 0
      +upVotes: 0
      +downVotes: 0
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +apId: "https://lemmy.world/comment/5260401"
      +editedAt: null
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1699803379 {#2281
        date: 2023-11-12 16:36:19.0 +01:00
      }
      +"title": 115875
    }
  ]
  -id: 12240
  -titleTs: "'ll':3 'next':1 'sit':7 'us':5 'want':4"
  -bodyTs: null
  +cross: false
  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +ranking: 1699878485
  +visibility: "trashed             "
  +apId: "https://lemmy.world/post/8152094"
  +editedAt: null
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1699792085 {#3058
    date: 2023-11-12 13:28:05.0 +01:00
  }
  +__isInitialized__: true
   …2
}
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
ACCESS DENIED
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
2 DENIED moderate
Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#2280
  +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#3037 …}
  +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#2282 …}
  +image: null
  +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#2982 …}
  +slug: "Next-they-ll-want-us-to-sit"
  +title: "Next they'll want us to sit!"
  +url: "https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/0a3f025d-5f31-4d8c-8ba1-15bf05568e2b.jpeg"
  +body: null
  +type: "image"
  +lang: "en"
  +isOc: false
  +hasEmbed: true
  +commentCount: 13
  +favouriteCount: 132
  +score: 0
  +isAdult: false
  +sticky: false
  +lastActive: DateTime @1699811518 {#3071
    date: 2023-11-12 18:51:58.0 +01:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +adaAmount: 0
  +tags: null
  +mentions: null
  +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3078 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3080 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3082 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3084 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3086 …}
  +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3088 …}
  +children: [
    App\Entity\EntryComment {#2283
      +user: App\Entity\User {#259 …}
      +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#2280 …2}
      +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#2282 …}
      +image: null
      +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#2278 …}
      +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#2278 …}
      +body: "You’ll make the other guys jealous."
      +lang: "en"
      +isAdult: false
      +favouriteCount: 1
      +score: 0
      +lastActive: DateTime @1699803379 {#2295
        date: 2023-11-12 16:36:19.0 +01:00
      }
      +ip: null
      +tags: null
      +mentions: [
        "@blahsay@lemmy.world"
        "@Kolanaki@yiffit.net"
      ]
      +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2276 …}
      +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2275 …}
      +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2261 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2218 …}
      +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2221 …}
      +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2217 …}
      -id: 115875
      -bodyTs: "'guy':6 'jealous':7 'll':2 'make':3"
      +ranking: 0
      +commentCount: 0
      +upVotes: 0
      +downVotes: 0
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +apId: "https://lemmy.world/comment/5260401"
      +editedAt: null
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1699803379 {#2281
        date: 2023-11-12 16:36:19.0 +01:00
      }
      +"title": 115875
    }
  ]
  -id: 12240
  -titleTs: "'ll':3 'next':1 'sit':7 'us':5 'want':4"
  -bodyTs: null
  +cross: false
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  +downVotes: 0
  +ranking: 1699878485
  +visibility: "trashed             "
  +apId: "https://lemmy.world/post/8152094"
  +editedAt: null
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1699792085 {#3058
    date: 2023-11-12 13:28:05.0 +01:00
  }
  +__isInitialized__: true
   …2
}
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
ACCESS DENIED
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
3 DENIED ROLE_USER
null
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
ACCESS DENIED
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
4 DENIED moderate
App\Entity\EntryComment {#2283
  +user: App\Entity\User {#259 …}
  +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#2280
    +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#3037 …}
    +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#2282 …}
    +image: null
    +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#2982 …}
    +slug: "Next-they-ll-want-us-to-sit"
    +title: "Next they'll want us to sit!"
    +url: "https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/0a3f025d-5f31-4d8c-8ba1-15bf05568e2b.jpeg"
    +body: null
    +type: "image"
    +lang: "en"
    +isOc: false
    +hasEmbed: true
    +commentCount: 13
    +favouriteCount: 132
    +score: 0
    +isAdult: false
    +sticky: false
    +lastActive: DateTime @1699811518 {#3071
      date: 2023-11-12 18:51:58.0 +01:00
    }
    +ip: null
    +adaAmount: 0
    +tags: null
    +mentions: null
    +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3078 …}
    +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3080 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3082 …}
    +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3084 …}
    +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3086 …}
    +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3088 …}
    +children: [
      App\Entity\EntryComment {#2283}
    ]
    -id: 12240
    -titleTs: "'ll':3 'next':1 'sit':7 'us':5 'want':4"
    -bodyTs: null
    +cross: false
    +upVotes: 0
    +downVotes: 0
    +ranking: 1699878485
    +visibility: "trashed             "
    +apId: "https://lemmy.world/post/8152094"
    +editedAt: null
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1699792085 {#3058
      date: 2023-11-12 13:28:05.0 +01:00
    }
    +__isInitialized__: true
     …2
  }
  +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#2282 …}
  +image: null
  +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#2278 …}
  +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#2278 …}
  +body: "You’ll make the other guys jealous."
  +lang: "en"
  +isAdult: false
  +favouriteCount: 1
  +score: 0
  +lastActive: DateTime @1699803379 {#2295
    date: 2023-11-12 16:36:19.0 +01:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +tags: null
  +mentions: [
    "@blahsay@lemmy.world"
    "@Kolanaki@yiffit.net"
  ]
  +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2276 …}
  +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2275 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2261 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2218 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2221 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2217 …}
  -id: 115875
  -bodyTs: "'guy':6 'jealous':7 'll':2 'make':3"
  +ranking: 0
  +commentCount: 0
  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://lemmy.world/comment/5260401"
  +editedAt: null
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1699803379 {#2281
    date: 2023-11-12 16:36:19.0 +01:00
  }
  +"title": 115875
}
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
ACCESS DENIED
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
5 DENIED edit
App\Entity\EntryComment {#2283
  +user: App\Entity\User {#259 …}
  +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#2280
    +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#3037 …}
    +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#2282 …}
    +image: null
    +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#2982 …}
    +slug: "Next-they-ll-want-us-to-sit"
    +title: "Next they'll want us to sit!"
    +url: "https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/0a3f025d-5f31-4d8c-8ba1-15bf05568e2b.jpeg"
    +body: null
    +type: "image"
    +lang: "en"
    +isOc: false
    +hasEmbed: true
    +commentCount: 13
    +favouriteCount: 132
    +score: 0
    +isAdult: false
    +sticky: false
    +lastActive: DateTime @1699811518 {#3071
      date: 2023-11-12 18:51:58.0 +01:00
    }
    +ip: null
    +adaAmount: 0
    +tags: null
    +mentions: null
    +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3078 …}
    +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3080 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3082 …}
    +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3084 …}
    +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3086 …}
    +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3088 …}
    +children: [
      App\Entity\EntryComment {#2283}
    ]
    -id: 12240
    -titleTs: "'ll':3 'next':1 'sit':7 'us':5 'want':4"
    -bodyTs: null
    +cross: false
    +upVotes: 0
    +downVotes: 0
    +ranking: 1699878485
    +visibility: "trashed             "
    +apId: "https://lemmy.world/post/8152094"
    +editedAt: null
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1699792085 {#3058
      date: 2023-11-12 13:28:05.0 +01:00
    }
    +__isInitialized__: true
     …2
  }
  +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#2282 …}
  +image: null
  +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#2278 …}
  +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#2278 …}
  +body: "You’ll make the other guys jealous."
  +lang: "en"
  +isAdult: false
  +favouriteCount: 1
  +score: 0
  +lastActive: DateTime @1699803379 {#2295
    date: 2023-11-12 16:36:19.0 +01:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +tags: null
  +mentions: [
    "@blahsay@lemmy.world"
    "@Kolanaki@yiffit.net"
  ]
  +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2276 …}
  +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2275 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2261 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2218 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2221 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2217 …}
  -id: 115875
  -bodyTs: "'guy':6 'jealous':7 'll':2 'make':3"
  +ranking: 0
  +commentCount: 0
  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://lemmy.world/comment/5260401"
  +editedAt: null
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1699803379 {#2281
    date: 2023-11-12 16:36:19.0 +01:00
  }
  +"title": 115875
}
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
ACCESS DENIED
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
6 DENIED moderate
App\Entity\EntryComment {#2283
  +user: App\Entity\User {#259 …}
  +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#2280
    +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#3037 …}
    +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#2282 …}
    +image: null
    +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#2982 …}
    +slug: "Next-they-ll-want-us-to-sit"
    +title: "Next they'll want us to sit!"
    +url: "https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/0a3f025d-5f31-4d8c-8ba1-15bf05568e2b.jpeg"
    +body: null
    +type: "image"
    +lang: "en"
    +isOc: false
    +hasEmbed: true
    +commentCount: 13
    +favouriteCount: 132
    +score: 0
    +isAdult: false
    +sticky: false
    +lastActive: DateTime @1699811518 {#3071
      date: 2023-11-12 18:51:58.0 +01:00
    }
    +ip: null
    +adaAmount: 0
    +tags: null
    +mentions: null
    +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3078 …}
    +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3080 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3082 …}
    +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3084 …}
    +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3086 …}
    +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3088 …}
    +children: [
      App\Entity\EntryComment {#2283}
    ]
    -id: 12240
    -titleTs: "'ll':3 'next':1 'sit':7 'us':5 'want':4"
    -bodyTs: null
    +cross: false
    +upVotes: 0
    +downVotes: 0
    +ranking: 1699878485
    +visibility: "trashed             "
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        Note: They ALREADY HAVE YOUR DATA in this scenario. You’re like the fucking stupid soldier who wants to go back out there while they’re currently bleeding out… You’ve already lost by the point we’re talking about. They have your email. They have your interests. You’ve already visited their site and gotten their cookies to sign up…\n
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        Just because they CAN have trackers doesn’t make them all bad. You do not know this mailing list does, so it is blatant fear mongering.\n
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        The fear mongering made the situation WORSE because ignorant fucks were more afraid than informed.\n
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        Stop being an ignorant fearmonger.
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        “They don’t use their own service” is not the same as, “this is evidence they do in fact track via email.”\n
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          Just because they CAN have trackers doesn’t make them all bad. You do not know this mailing list does, so it is blatant fear mongering.\n
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          You may as well be complaining about how web cookies can be used for bad things. Is it true? Yes. Is it true everywhere? NO! And writing rules around it so ignorantly is how you get the GDPR clause where EVERYONE has a cookie warning popup and *hides* the tracking cookie options a couple pages in, so they STILL use tracking cookies, and now with legally “informed” consent!\n
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          “They don’t use their own service” is not the same as, “this is evidence they do in fact track via email.”\n
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    Note: They ALREADY HAVE YOUR DATA in this scenario. You’re like the fucking stupid soldier who wants to go back out there while they’re currently bleeding out… You’ve already lost by the point we’re talking about. They have your email. They have your interests. You’ve already visited their site and gotten their cookies to sign up…\n
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    If you even remotely *want* to see the email, they’re already tracking you far, FAR more than they’d be able to with email. Click on a link in there? Congratulations: It DOESN’T MATTER what’s in the email at that point. You’re back in their entire environment and you’ve signaled email helped get you there. Regardless of what was in the email.\n
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          Just because they CAN have trackers doesn’t make them all bad. You do not know this mailing list does, so it is blatant fear mongering.\n
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          “They don’t use their own service” is not the same as, “this is evidence they do in fact track via email.”\n
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          What you don’t seem to realize is, the signup ITSELF is the data they want, and click through rates. You being on a mailing list is already ample tracking compared to what most people are bitching about… You’re GIVING them the info, then whining about them having it…
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    Note: They ALREADY HAVE YOUR DATA in this scenario. You’re like the fucking stupid soldier who wants to go back out there while they’re currently bleeding out… You’ve already lost by the point we’re talking about. They have your email. They have your interests. You’ve already visited their site and gotten their cookies to sign up…\n
    \n
    If you even remotely *want* to see the email, they’re already tracking you far, FAR more than they’d be able to with email. Click on a link in there? Congratulations: It DOESN’T MATTER what’s in the email at that point. You’re back in their entire environment and you’ve signaled email helped get you there. Regardless of what was in the email.\n
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    You’re complaining about someone stealing food from your fridge and conveniently ignoring that they have to have access to your house to even try it in the first place…
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          Just because they CAN have trackers doesn’t make them all bad. You do not know this mailing list does, so it is blatant fear mongering.\n
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          You may as well be complaining about how web cookies can be used for bad things. Is it true? Yes. Is it true everywhere? NO! And writing rules around it so ignorantly is how you get the GDPR clause where EVERYONE has a cookie warning popup and *hides* the tracking cookie options a couple pages in, so they STILL use tracking cookies, and now with legally “informed” consent!\n
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          The fear mongering made the situation WORSE because ignorant fucks were more afraid than informed.\n
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          Stop being an ignorant fearmonger.
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          “They don’t use their own service” is not the same as, “this is evidence they do in fact track via email.”\n
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    Note: They ALREADY HAVE YOUR DATA in this scenario. You’re like the fucking stupid soldier who wants to go back out there while they’re currently bleeding out… You’ve already lost by the point we’re talking about. They have your email. They have your interests. You’ve already visited their site and gotten their cookies to sign up…\n
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    Just because they CAN have trackers doesn’t make them all bad. You do not know this mailing list does, so it is blatant fear mongering.\n
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    You may as well be complaining about how web cookies can be used for bad things. Is it true? Yes. Is it true everywhere? NO! And writing rules around it so ignorantly is how you get the GDPR clause where EVERYONE has a cookie warning popup and *hides* the tracking cookie options a couple pages in, so they STILL use tracking cookies, and now with legally “informed” consent!\n
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          Note: They ALREADY HAVE YOUR DATA in this scenario. You’re like the fucking stupid soldier who wants to go back out there while they’re currently bleeding out… You’ve already lost by the point we’re talking about. They have your email. They have your interests. You’ve already visited their site and gotten their cookies to sign up…\n
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          If you even remotely *want* to see the email, they’re already tracking you far, FAR more than they’d be able to with email. Click on a link in there? Congratulations: It DOESN’T MATTER what’s in the email at that point. You’re back in their entire environment and you’ve signaled email helped get you there. Regardless of what was in the email.\n
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          You’re complaining about someone stealing food from your fridge and conveniently ignoring that they have to have access to your house to even try it in the first place…
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          “They don’t use their own service” is not the same as, “this is evidence they do in fact track via email.”\n
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          What you don’t seem to realize is, the signup ITSELF is the data they want, and click through rates. You being on a mailing list is already ample tracking compared to what most people are bitching about… You’re GIVING them the info, then whining about them having it…
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    Just because they CAN have trackers doesn’t make them all bad. You do not know this mailing list does, so it is blatant fear mongering.\n
    \n
    You may as well be complaining about how web cookies can be used for bad things. Is it true? Yes. Is it true everywhere? NO! And writing rules around it so ignorantly is how you get the GDPR clause where EVERYONE has a cookie warning popup and *hides* the tracking cookie options a couple pages in, so they STILL use tracking cookies, and now with legally “informed” consent!\n
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    The fear mongering made the situation WORSE because ignorant fucks were more afraid than informed.\n
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    Stop being an ignorant fearmonger.
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          Note: They ALREADY HAVE YOUR DATA in this scenario. You’re like the fucking stupid soldier who wants to go back out there while they’re currently bleeding out… You’ve already lost by the point we’re talking about. They have your email. They have your interests. You’ve already visited their site and gotten their cookies to sign up…\n
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          “They don’t use their own service” is not the same as, “this is evidence they do in fact track via email.”\n
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          What you don’t seem to realize is, the signup ITSELF is the data they want, and click through rates. You being on a mailing list is already ample tracking compared to what most people are bitching about… You’re GIVING them the info, then whining about them having it…
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    Just because they CAN have trackers doesn’t make them all bad. You do not know this mailing list does, so it is blatant fear mongering.\n
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    You may as well be complaining about how web cookies can be used for bad things. Is it true? Yes. Is it true everywhere? NO! And writing rules around it so ignorantly is how you get the GDPR clause where EVERYONE has a cookie warning popup and *hides* the tracking cookie options a couple pages in, so they STILL use tracking cookies, and now with legally “informed” consent!\n
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    The fear mongering made the situation WORSE because ignorant fucks were more afraid than informed.\n
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    Stop being an ignorant fearmonger.
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          Note: They ALREADY HAVE YOUR DATA in this scenario. You’re like the fucking stupid soldier who wants to go back out there while they’re currently bleeding out… You’ve already lost by the point we’re talking about. They have your email. They have your interests. You’ve already visited their site and gotten their cookies to sign up…\n
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          Just because they CAN have trackers doesn’t make them all bad. You do not know this mailing list does, so it is blatant fear mongering.\n
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          Stop being an ignorant fearmonger.
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          “They don’t use their own service” is not the same as, “this is evidence they do in fact track via email.”\n
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          Just because they CAN have trackers doesn’t make them all bad. You do not know this mailing list does, so it is blatant fear mongering.\n
          \n
          You may as well be complaining about how web cookies can be used for bad things. Is it true? Yes. Is it true everywhere? NO! And writing rules around it so ignorantly is how you get the GDPR clause where EVERYONE has a cookie warning popup and *hides* the tracking cookie options a couple pages in, so they STILL use tracking cookies, and now with legally “informed” consent!\n
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          The fear mongering made the situation WORSE because ignorant fucks were more afraid than informed.\n
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          Stop being an ignorant fearmonger.
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          “They don’t use their own service” is not the same as, “this is evidence they do in fact track via email.”\n
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          What you don’t seem to realize is, the signup ITSELF is the data they want, and click through rates. You being on a mailing list is already ample tracking compared to what most people are bitching about… You’re GIVING them the info, then whining about them having it…
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          Note: They ALREADY HAVE YOUR DATA in this scenario. You’re like the fucking stupid soldier who wants to go back out there while they’re currently bleeding out… You’ve already lost by the point we’re talking about. They have your email. They have your interests. You’ve already visited their site and gotten their cookies to sign up…\n
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          Just because they CAN have trackers doesn’t make them all bad. You do not know this mailing list does, so it is blatant fear mongering.\n
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          You may as well be complaining about how web cookies can be used for bad things. Is it true? Yes. Is it true everywhere? NO! And writing rules around it so ignorantly is how you get the GDPR clause where EVERYONE has a cookie warning popup and *hides* the tracking cookie options a couple pages in, so they STILL use tracking cookies, and now with legally “informed” consent!\n
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          The fear mongering made the situation WORSE because ignorant fucks were more afraid than informed.\n
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          Stop being an ignorant fearmonger.
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          Note: They ALREADY HAVE YOUR DATA in this scenario. You’re like the fucking stupid soldier who wants to go back out there while they’re currently bleeding out… You’ve already lost by the point we’re talking about. They have your email. They have your interests. You’ve already visited their site and gotten their cookies to sign up…\n
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          Just because they CAN have trackers doesn’t make them all bad. You do not know this mailing list does, so it is blatant fear mongering.\n
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          Just because they CAN have trackers doesn’t make them all bad. You do not know this mailing list does, so it is blatant fear mongering.\n
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          Just because they CAN have trackers doesn’t make them all bad. You do not know this mailing list does, so it is blatant fear mongering.\n
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          You may as well be complaining about how web cookies can be used for bad things. Is it true? Yes. Is it true everywhere? NO! And writing rules around it so ignorantly is how you get the GDPR clause where EVERYONE has a cookie warning popup and *hides* the tracking cookie options a couple pages in, so they STILL use tracking cookies, and now with legally “informed” consent!\n
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          The fear mongering made the situation WORSE because ignorant fucks were more afraid than informed.\n
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          Stop being an ignorant fearmonger.
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    “They don’t use their own service” is not the same as, “this is evidence they do in fact track via email.”\n
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          Note: They ALREADY HAVE YOUR DATA in this scenario. You’re like the fucking stupid soldier who wants to go back out there while they’re currently bleeding out… You’ve already lost by the point we’re talking about. They have your email. They have your interests. You’ve already visited their site and gotten their cookies to sign up…\n
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          Just because they CAN have trackers doesn’t make them all bad. You do not know this mailing list does, so it is blatant fear mongering.\n
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          The fear mongering made the situation WORSE because ignorant fucks were more afraid than informed.\n
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          Stop being an ignorant fearmonger.
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    “They don’t use their own service” is not the same as, “this is evidence they do in fact track via email.”\n
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    What you don’t seem to realize is, the signup ITSELF is the data they want, and click through rates. You being on a mailing list is already ample tracking compared to what most people are bitching about… You’re GIVING them the info, then whining about them having it…
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          Note: They ALREADY HAVE YOUR DATA in this scenario. You’re like the fucking stupid soldier who wants to go back out there while they’re currently bleeding out… You’ve already lost by the point we’re talking about. They have your email. They have your interests. You’ve already visited their site and gotten their cookies to sign up…\n
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          Just because they CAN have trackers doesn’t make them all bad. You do not know this mailing list does, so it is blatant fear mongering.\n
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          You may as well be complaining about how web cookies can be used for bad things. Is it true? Yes. Is it true everywhere? NO! And writing rules around it so ignorantly is how you get the GDPR clause where EVERYONE has a cookie warning popup and *hides* the tracking cookie options a couple pages in, so they STILL use tracking cookies, and now with legally “informed” consent!\n
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          The fear mongering made the situation WORSE because ignorant fucks were more afraid than informed.\n
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          Stop being an ignorant fearmonger.
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    “They don’t use their own service” is not the same as, “this is evidence they do in fact track via email.”\n
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          Just because they CAN have trackers doesn’t make them all bad. You do not know this mailing list does, so it is blatant fear mongering.\n
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          You may as well be complaining about how web cookies can be used for bad things. Is it true? Yes. Is it true everywhere? NO! And writing rules around it so ignorantly is how you get the GDPR clause where EVERYONE has a cookie warning popup and *hides* the tracking cookie options a couple pages in, so they STILL use tracking cookies, and now with legally “informed” consent!\n
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          The fear mongering made the situation WORSE because ignorant fucks were more afraid than informed.\n
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          Stop being an ignorant fearmonger.
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          “They don’t use their own service” is not the same as, “this is evidence they do in fact track via email.”\n
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          Note: They ALREADY HAVE YOUR DATA in this scenario. You’re like the fucking stupid soldier who wants to go back out there while they’re currently bleeding out… You’ve already lost by the point we’re talking about. They have your email. They have your interests. You’ve already visited their site and gotten their cookies to sign up…\n
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          Just because they CAN have trackers doesn’t make them all bad. You do not know this mailing list does, so it is blatant fear mongering.\n
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          Hmm, it’s been a long time since I’ve seen a movie in theaters, let alone a hidden gem or grossly misadvertised one. I try to avoid ads like the plague.\n
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    Nahh, that’s just cheap Hollywood shit that’s written so poorly.\n
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        They are an easy example to demonstrate how stupid OP is. He is using language that is LITERALLY defending Nazis. He is saying the political party that *actively, literally runs Nazis on their ticket,* is LESS antisemitic than leftists… A group that doesn’t even have a political party in the US.\n
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        Don’t hunt for echo chambers. Hunt for refining your rhetoric so you can make allies no matter where you end up. Seeking echo chambers is simply defeatist reactionary behavior. Voices of all types will not be permitted in certain areas. Especially if you’re randomly spouting off things that you want agreed with.\n
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        Are you an intelligent leftist looking for allies, or a reactionary looking for an echo chamber? If it’s the former, then be happy: You don’t have to waste your time proselytizing there if you know you’ll get banned for it there. If it’s the latter, be happy: now you know it’s not your echo chamber.\n
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        Are you intelligent? Then why were you bringing up a 30+ year old tragedy in *WorldNews?* Tiananmen Square has not been news for decades. Yes, there has been many tragedies since, even tragedies that share many hallmarks. Though you using as evidence that your banning was unjust is… simply inadequate.\n
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        the *left* are the real antisemites?\n
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        They are an easy example to demonstrate how stupid OP is. He is using language that is LITERALLY defending Nazis. He is saying the political party that *actively, literally runs Nazis on their ticket,* is LESS antisemitic than leftists… A group that doesn’t even have a political party in the US.\n
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          the *left* are the real antisemites?\n
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    Don’t hunt for echo chambers. Hunt for refining your rhetoric so you can make allies no matter where you end up. Seeking echo chambers is simply defeatist reactionary behavior. Voices of all types will not be permitted in certain areas. Especially if you’re randomly spouting off things that you want agreed with.\n
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          The actual truth if you believe Christian theology. Angels AND God are fully capable of changing things, but free will is sort of like the Prime Directive in Star Trek if you want to be charitable. Uncharitably, we’re God’s play things and only a tiny fraction of the most loyal will see true reward.\n
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        The point about being omnipotent vs free will is… if he does ANYTHING to change our fate, he’s corrupting free will, which is supposed to be our greatest gift.\n
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        The entire concept of an omniprescient and all powerful being is nonsensical as described by Christians. A being LITERALLY CANNOT be all knowing, all kind, and omnipotent. Not if our reality is involved.\n
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        That is why there is so much debate over the nature of god and “good”. As described, it is literally impossible, so it becomes incredibly subjective.\n
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        Morals are subjective, and so is God.
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        That’s only the kind and charitable interpretations. There are ample stories of God directly murderizing people just for disobeying a direct order.\n
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        IMO, it’s all complete codswallop that’s been misconstrued off of the simple recordings of history and an attempt at passing on wisdom about which rulers were good and why.\n
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        After all, all it takes is some narcissistic piece of shit emperor to declare they shall be referred to as “god”, and no other rulers will even be recorded as having a similar honorific … and bam. God as described in the Bible suddenly makes perfect sense being a fickle piece of shit because he’s just a bastardized history of seemingly good rulers dealing with completely different problems in completely different ways.\n
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        I mean… Not really. Paradoxes don’t actually exist. Causality itself would fail to work if literally inconsistent things could be magically made consistent. It’s fundamentally not how the universe works. Literally. What you ask for *could* exist, but not in a universe that behaves like ours. It is fundamentally incompatible with what is observed.\n
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        Yes, completely and fundamentally incompatible. Even if God could start up a billion universes with a billion rules … ours doesn’t work like that. It’s like a game character saying, “yea well the devs could totally make this RPG a FPS game!”\n
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        Logic requires cause and effect. If you break cause and effect, logic means nothing.\n
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        If you keep logic, then again: Paradoxes don’t actually exist. At the end of the day, something is true or it’s not. If you’re dealing with something both true and not true, you are literally and quite directly dealing with something unresolved. We fundamentally do not observe unresolved things.\n
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        It is conceptually, definitionally, not compatible with observed reality. “Observed reality” *literally cannot* reference such things. The question itself is nothing but a thought experiment that far too many people fail to execute.
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        Depends entirely on the religious sect. Some believe we live happily ever after in a similar condition but in paradise, some believe the believers get ascended to godhood, literally able to create universes.\n
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        It is an entire spectrum of fantasy, and that’s just the Christian sects.
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      +body: "Oh excellent, sounds like a book I’ll have to pick up so I can put some real substance behind my hunches. Thanks for the recommend."
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        Your analogy is a little broken. God wouldn’t be simply telling you not to. God is literally changing what you want to do, or any other number of “omnipotent” actions that are not possible by someone not omnipotent.\n
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        The concept itself is incompatible with reality that operates like ours. Ours has clear, obvious, demonstrable, and repeatable rules. If those rules change, we *literally cannot* tell.\n
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        Omnipotence is quite literally a pointless point when there is literally NOTHING that demonstrates power beyond the existing rules. There is literally nothing that breaks causality in our reality. Our reality and existence is quite literally incompatible with omnipotence as described in the bible.
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        Yes, but such a universe is still fundamentally incompatible with Christian (and most other) religious teachings.\n
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        There would be absolutely NO point in praying or asking for help in a universe with absolute free will, yet that is exactly what Christians (and many others) teach. It shows up all over in how they treat others and civil policy.\n
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        It’s why they’re so pro punishment: You make a choice to do bad things, you had free will to choose not to, so you must be bad. It’s not *completely* broken logic that they use, but it is absolutely not a self-consistent set of rules.
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        The great irony is, the Prime Directive is to try and control the emotional overreaction of humans and is indeed often ignored by Star Trek for supposedly moral reasons… It is terribly ironic that it makes such a perfect analogy to how God, a supposedly far superior being, is described as acting in the Bible.\n
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        In Star Trek, it’s ignored to help people. In the Bible, it’s ignored because God is having a bad day and needs to lay down some punishment without being labeled a massive hypocrite because daddy do no wrong.
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          The actual truth if you believe Christian theology. Angels AND God are fully capable of changing things, but free will is sort of like the Prime Directive in Star Trek if you want to be charitable. Uncharitably, we’re God’s play things and only a tiny fraction of the most loyal will see true reward.\n
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        The point about being omnipotent vs free will is… if he does ANYTHING to change our fate, he’s corrupting free will, which is supposed to be our greatest gift.\n
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        The entire concept of an omniprescient and all powerful being is nonsensical as described by Christians. A being LITERALLY CANNOT be all knowing, all kind, and omnipotent. Not if our reality is involved.\n
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        That is why there is so much debate over the nature of god and “good”. As described, it is literally impossible, so it becomes incredibly subjective.\n
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        Morals are subjective, and so is God.
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        That’s only the kind and charitable interpretations. There are ample stories of God directly murderizing people just for disobeying a direct order.\n
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        After all, all it takes is some narcissistic piece of shit emperor to declare they shall be referred to as “god”, and no other rulers will even be recorded as having a similar honorific … and bam. God as described in the Bible suddenly makes perfect sense being a fickle piece of shit because he’s just a bastardized history of seemingly good rulers dealing with completely different problems in completely different ways.\n
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        I mean… Not really. Paradoxes don’t actually exist. Causality itself would fail to work if literally inconsistent things could be magically made consistent. It’s fundamentally not how the universe works. Literally. What you ask for *could* exist, but not in a universe that behaves like ours. It is fundamentally incompatible with what is observed.\n
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        Yes, completely and fundamentally incompatible. Even if God could start up a billion universes with a billion rules … ours doesn’t work like that. It’s like a game character saying, “yea well the devs could totally make this RPG a FPS game!”\n
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        Logic requires cause and effect. If you break cause and effect, logic means nothing.\n
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        If you keep logic, then again: Paradoxes don’t actually exist. At the end of the day, something is true or it’s not. If you’re dealing with something both true and not true, you are literally and quite directly dealing with something unresolved. We fundamentally do not observe unresolved things.\n
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        Depends entirely on the religious sect. Some believe we live happily ever after in a similar condition but in paradise, some believe the believers get ascended to godhood, literally able to create universes.\n
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        It is an entire spectrum of fantasy, and that’s just the Christian sects.
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        Your analogy is a little broken. God wouldn’t be simply telling you not to. God is literally changing what you want to do, or any other number of “omnipotent” actions that are not possible by someone not omnipotent.\n
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        The concept itself is incompatible with reality that operates like ours. Ours has clear, obvious, demonstrable, and repeatable rules. If those rules change, we *literally cannot* tell.\n
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        Omnipotence is quite literally a pointless point when there is literally NOTHING that demonstrates power beyond the existing rules. There is literally nothing that breaks causality in our reality. Our reality and existence is quite literally incompatible with omnipotence as described in the bible.
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        Yes, but such a universe is still fundamentally incompatible with Christian (and most other) religious teachings.\n
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        It’s why they’re so pro punishment: You make a choice to do bad things, you had free will to choose not to, so you must be bad. It’s not *completely* broken logic that they use, but it is absolutely not a self-consistent set of rules.
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        The great irony is, the Prime Directive is to try and control the emotional overreaction of humans and is indeed often ignored by Star Trek for supposedly moral reasons… It is terribly ironic that it makes such a perfect analogy to how God, a supposedly far superior being, is described as acting in the Bible.\n
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        In Star Trek, it’s ignored to help people. In the Bible, it’s ignored because God is having a bad day and needs to lay down some punishment without being labeled a massive hypocrite because daddy do no wrong.
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          The actual truth if you believe Christian theology. Angels AND God are fully capable of changing things, but free will is sort of like the Prime Directive in Star Trek if you want to be charitable. Uncharitably, we’re God’s play things and only a tiny fraction of the most loyal will see true reward.\n
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        The point about being omnipotent vs free will is… if he does ANYTHING to change our fate, he’s corrupting free will, which is supposed to be our greatest gift.\n
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        The entire concept of an omniprescient and all powerful being is nonsensical as described by Christians. A being LITERALLY CANNOT be all knowing, all kind, and omnipotent. Not if our reality is involved.\n
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        Morals are subjective, and so is God.
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        That’s only the kind and charitable interpretations. There are ample stories of God directly murderizing people just for disobeying a direct order.\n
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        After all, all it takes is some narcissistic piece of shit emperor to declare they shall be referred to as “god”, and no other rulers will even be recorded as having a similar honorific … and bam. God as described in the Bible suddenly makes perfect sense being a fickle piece of shit because he’s just a bastardized history of seemingly good rulers dealing with completely different problems in completely different ways.\n
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        I mean… Not really. Paradoxes don’t actually exist. Causality itself would fail to work if literally inconsistent things could be magically made consistent. It’s fundamentally not how the universe works. Literally. What you ask for *could* exist, but not in a universe that behaves like ours. It is fundamentally incompatible with what is observed.\n
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        Yes, completely and fundamentally incompatible. Even if God could start up a billion universes with a billion rules … ours doesn’t work like that. It’s like a game character saying, “yea well the devs could totally make this RPG a FPS game!”\n
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        Logic requires cause and effect. If you break cause and effect, logic means nothing.\n
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        Depends entirely on the religious sect. Some believe we live happily ever after in a similar condition but in paradise, some believe the believers get ascended to godhood, literally able to create universes.\n
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        Your analogy is a little broken. God wouldn’t be simply telling you not to. God is literally changing what you want to do, or any other number of “omnipotent” actions that are not possible by someone not omnipotent.\n
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        The concept itself is incompatible with reality that operates like ours. Ours has clear, obvious, demonstrable, and repeatable rules. If those rules change, we *literally cannot* tell.\n
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        Yes, but such a universe is still fundamentally incompatible with Christian (and most other) religious teachings.\n
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        There would be absolutely NO point in praying or asking for help in a universe with absolute free will, yet that is exactly what Christians (and many others) teach. It shows up all over in how they treat others and civil policy.\n
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        The great irony is, the Prime Directive is to try and control the emotional overreaction of humans and is indeed often ignored by Star Trek for supposedly moral reasons… It is terribly ironic that it makes such a perfect analogy to how God, a supposedly far superior being, is described as acting in the Bible.\n
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        In Star Trek, it’s ignored to help people. In the Bible, it’s ignored because God is having a bad day and needs to lay down some punishment without being labeled a massive hypocrite because daddy do no wrong.
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          The actual truth if you believe Christian theology. Angels AND God are fully capable of changing things, but free will is sort of like the Prime Directive in Star Trek if you want to be charitable. Uncharitably, we’re God’s play things and only a tiny fraction of the most loyal will see true reward.\n
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          That’s only the kind and charitable interpretations. There are ample stories of God directly murderizing people just for disobeying a direct order.\n
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          I mean… Not really. Paradoxes don’t actually exist. Causality itself would fail to work if literally inconsistent things could be magically made consistent. It’s fundamentally not how the universe works. Literally. What you ask for *could* exist, but not in a universe that behaves like ours. It is fundamentally incompatible with what is observed.\n
          \n
          Yes, completely and fundamentally incompatible. Even if God could start up a billion universes with a billion rules … ours doesn’t work like that. It’s like a game character saying, “yea well the devs could totally make this RPG a FPS game!”\n
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          Is the *possibility* true? Yes. Though for no reason the game character will ever comprehend nor be able to ever observe. It is fundamentally a pointless point that adds no new information to the equation.
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          Logic requires cause and effect. If you break cause and effect, logic means nothing.\n
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          If you keep logic, then again: Paradoxes don’t actually exist. At the end of the day, something is true or it’s not. If you’re dealing with something both true and not true, you are literally and quite directly dealing with something unresolved. We fundamentally do not observe unresolved things.\n
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          It is conceptually, definitionally, not compatible with observed reality. “Observed reality” *literally cannot* reference such things. The question itself is nothing but a thought experiment that far too many people fail to execute.
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          Depends entirely on the religious sect. Some believe we live happily ever after in a similar condition but in paradise, some believe the believers get ascended to godhood, literally able to create universes.\n
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          It is an entire spectrum of fantasy, and that’s just the Christian sects.
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        +body: "Oh excellent, sounds like a book I’ll have to pick up so I can put some real substance behind my hunches. Thanks for the recommend."
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          Your analogy is a little broken. God wouldn’t be simply telling you not to. God is literally changing what you want to do, or any other number of “omnipotent” actions that are not possible by someone not omnipotent.\n
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          The concept itself is incompatible with reality that operates like ours. Ours has clear, obvious, demonstrable, and repeatable rules. If those rules change, we *literally cannot* tell.\n
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          Omnipotence is quite literally a pointless point when there is literally NOTHING that demonstrates power beyond the existing rules. There is literally nothing that breaks causality in our reality. Our reality and existence is quite literally incompatible with omnipotence as described in the bible.
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          Yes, but such a universe is still fundamentally incompatible with Christian (and most other) religious teachings.\n
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          There would be absolutely NO point in praying or asking for help in a universe with absolute free will, yet that is exactly what Christians (and many others) teach. It shows up all over in how they treat others and civil policy.\n
          \n
          It’s why they’re so pro punishment: You make a choice to do bad things, you had free will to choose not to, so you must be bad. It’s not *completely* broken logic that they use, but it is absolutely not a self-consistent set of rules.
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          The great irony is, the Prime Directive is to try and control the emotional overreaction of humans and is indeed often ignored by Star Trek for supposedly moral reasons… It is terribly ironic that it makes such a perfect analogy to how God, a supposedly far superior being, is described as acting in the Bible.\n
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          In Star Trek, it’s ignored to help people. In the Bible, it’s ignored because God is having a bad day and needs to lay down some punishment without being labeled a massive hypocrite because daddy do no wrong.
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    The point about being omnipotent vs free will is… if he does ANYTHING to change our fate, he’s corrupting free will, which is supposed to be our greatest gift.\n
    \n
    The entire concept of an omniprescient and all powerful being is nonsensical as described by Christians. A being LITERALLY CANNOT be all knowing, all kind, and omnipotent. Not if our reality is involved.\n
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    That is why there is so much debate over the nature of god and “good”. As described, it is literally impossible, so it becomes incredibly subjective.\n
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    Morals are subjective, and so is God.
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          The actual truth if you believe Christian theology. Angels AND God are fully capable of changing things, but free will is sort of like the Prime Directive in Star Trek if you want to be charitable. Uncharitably, we’re God’s play things and only a tiny fraction of the most loyal will see true reward.\n
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          The vast field of ambiguity between those two points is … kinda’ the point in why there has been so much quarrel even between Christian sects.
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          That’s only the kind and charitable interpretations. There are ample stories of God directly murderizing people just for disobeying a direct order.\n
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          IMO, it’s all complete codswallop that’s been misconstrued off of the simple recordings of history and an attempt at passing on wisdom about which rulers were good and why.\n
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          After all, all it takes is some narcissistic piece of shit emperor to declare they shall be referred to as “god”, and no other rulers will even be recorded as having a similar honorific … and bam. God as described in the Bible suddenly makes perfect sense being a fickle piece of shit because he’s just a bastardized history of seemingly good rulers dealing with completely different problems in completely different ways.\n
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          Now, I don’t think that’s all of it. There is obviously much spirituality and baby’s first philosophy wrapped up in there, too.
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          I mean… Not really. Paradoxes don’t actually exist. Causality itself would fail to work if literally inconsistent things could be magically made consistent. It’s fundamentally not how the universe works. Literally. What you ask for *could* exist, but not in a universe that behaves like ours. It is fundamentally incompatible with what is observed.\n
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          Yes, completely and fundamentally incompatible. Even if God could start up a billion universes with a billion rules … ours doesn’t work like that. It’s like a game character saying, “yea well the devs could totally make this RPG a FPS game!”\n
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          Is the *possibility* true? Yes. Though for no reason the game character will ever comprehend nor be able to ever observe. It is fundamentally a pointless point that adds no new information to the equation.
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          Logic requires cause and effect. If you break cause and effect, logic means nothing.\n
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          If you keep logic, then again: Paradoxes don’t actually exist. At the end of the day, something is true or it’s not. If you’re dealing with something both true and not true, you are literally and quite directly dealing with something unresolved. We fundamentally do not observe unresolved things.\n
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          It is conceptually, definitionally, not compatible with observed reality. “Observed reality” *literally cannot* reference such things. The question itself is nothing but a thought experiment that far too many people fail to execute.
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          Depends entirely on the religious sect. Some believe we live happily ever after in a similar condition but in paradise, some believe the believers get ascended to godhood, literally able to create universes.\n
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          It is an entire spectrum of fantasy, and that’s just the Christian sects.
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        +body: "Oh excellent, sounds like a book I’ll have to pick up so I can put some real substance behind my hunches. Thanks for the recommend."
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          Your analogy is a little broken. God wouldn’t be simply telling you not to. God is literally changing what you want to do, or any other number of “omnipotent” actions that are not possible by someone not omnipotent.\n
          \n
          The concept itself is incompatible with reality that operates like ours. Ours has clear, obvious, demonstrable, and repeatable rules. If those rules change, we *literally cannot* tell.\n
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          Omnipotence is quite literally a pointless point when there is literally NOTHING that demonstrates power beyond the existing rules. There is literally nothing that breaks causality in our reality. Our reality and existence is quite literally incompatible with omnipotence as described in the bible.
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          Yes, but such a universe is still fundamentally incompatible with Christian (and most other) religious teachings.\n
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          There would be absolutely NO point in praying or asking for help in a universe with absolute free will, yet that is exactly what Christians (and many others) teach. It shows up all over in how they treat others and civil policy.\n
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          It’s why they’re so pro punishment: You make a choice to do bad things, you had free will to choose not to, so you must be bad. It’s not *completely* broken logic that they use, but it is absolutely not a self-consistent set of rules.
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          The great irony is, the Prime Directive is to try and control the emotional overreaction of humans and is indeed often ignored by Star Trek for supposedly moral reasons… It is terribly ironic that it makes such a perfect analogy to how God, a supposedly far superior being, is described as acting in the Bible.\n
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          In Star Trek, it’s ignored to help people. In the Bible, it’s ignored because God is having a bad day and needs to lay down some punishment without being labeled a massive hypocrite because daddy do no wrong.
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    The point about being omnipotent vs free will is… if he does ANYTHING to change our fate, he’s corrupting free will, which is supposed to be our greatest gift.\n
    \n
    The entire concept of an omniprescient and all powerful being is nonsensical as described by Christians. A being LITERALLY CANNOT be all knowing, all kind, and omnipotent. Not if our reality is involved.\n
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    That is why there is so much debate over the nature of god and “good”. As described, it is literally impossible, so it becomes incredibly subjective.\n
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    Morals are subjective, and so is God.
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          The actual truth if you believe Christian theology. Angels AND God are fully capable of changing things, but free will is sort of like the Prime Directive in Star Trek if you want to be charitable. Uncharitably, we’re God’s play things and only a tiny fraction of the most loyal will see true reward.\n
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          The vast field of ambiguity between those two points is … kinda’ the point in why there has been so much quarrel even between Christian sects.
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          That’s only the kind and charitable interpretations. There are ample stories of God directly murderizing people just for disobeying a direct order.\n
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          IMO, it’s all complete codswallop that’s been misconstrued off of the simple recordings of history and an attempt at passing on wisdom about which rulers were good and why.\n
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          After all, all it takes is some narcissistic piece of shit emperor to declare they shall be referred to as “god”, and no other rulers will even be recorded as having a similar honorific … and bam. God as described in the Bible suddenly makes perfect sense being a fickle piece of shit because he’s just a bastardized history of seemingly good rulers dealing with completely different problems in completely different ways.\n
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          I mean… Not really. Paradoxes don’t actually exist. Causality itself would fail to work if literally inconsistent things could be magically made consistent. It’s fundamentally not how the universe works. Literally. What you ask for *could* exist, but not in a universe that behaves like ours. It is fundamentally incompatible with what is observed.\n
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          Yes, completely and fundamentally incompatible. Even if God could start up a billion universes with a billion rules … ours doesn’t work like that. It’s like a game character saying, “yea well the devs could totally make this RPG a FPS game!”\n
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          Logic requires cause and effect. If you break cause and effect, logic means nothing.\n
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          If you keep logic, then again: Paradoxes don’t actually exist. At the end of the day, something is true or it’s not. If you’re dealing with something both true and not true, you are literally and quite directly dealing with something unresolved. We fundamentally do not observe unresolved things.\n
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          Depends entirely on the religious sect. Some believe we live happily ever after in a similar condition but in paradise, some believe the believers get ascended to godhood, literally able to create universes.\n
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          It is an entire spectrum of fantasy, and that’s just the Christian sects.
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        +body: "Oh excellent, sounds like a book I’ll have to pick up so I can put some real substance behind my hunches. Thanks for the recommend."
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          Your analogy is a little broken. God wouldn’t be simply telling you not to. God is literally changing what you want to do, or any other number of “omnipotent” actions that are not possible by someone not omnipotent.\n
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          The concept itself is incompatible with reality that operates like ours. Ours has clear, obvious, demonstrable, and repeatable rules. If those rules change, we *literally cannot* tell.\n
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          Omnipotence is quite literally a pointless point when there is literally NOTHING that demonstrates power beyond the existing rules. There is literally nothing that breaks causality in our reality. Our reality and existence is quite literally incompatible with omnipotence as described in the bible.
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          Yes, but such a universe is still fundamentally incompatible with Christian (and most other) religious teachings.\n
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          The great irony is, the Prime Directive is to try and control the emotional overreaction of humans and is indeed often ignored by Star Trek for supposedly moral reasons… It is terribly ironic that it makes such a perfect analogy to how God, a supposedly far superior being, is described as acting in the Bible.\n
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    The point about being omnipotent vs free will is… if he does ANYTHING to change our fate, he’s corrupting free will, which is supposed to be our greatest gift.\n
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    The entire concept of an omniprescient and all powerful being is nonsensical as described by Christians. A being LITERALLY CANNOT be all knowing, all kind, and omnipotent. Not if our reality is involved.\n
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    That is why there is so much debate over the nature of god and “good”. As described, it is literally impossible, so it becomes incredibly subjective.\n
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    Morals are subjective, and so is God.
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          The point about being omnipotent vs free will is… if he does ANYTHING to change our fate, he’s corrupting free will, which is supposed to be our greatest gift.\n
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          That’s only the kind and charitable interpretations. There are ample stories of God directly murderizing people just for disobeying a direct order.\n
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          I mean… Not really. Paradoxes don’t actually exist. Causality itself would fail to work if literally inconsistent things could be magically made consistent. It’s fundamentally not how the universe works. Literally. What you ask for *could* exist, but not in a universe that behaves like ours. It is fundamentally incompatible with what is observed.\n
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          Logic requires cause and effect. If you break cause and effect, logic means nothing.\n
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          Depends entirely on the religious sect. Some believe we live happily ever after in a similar condition but in paradise, some believe the believers get ascended to godhood, literally able to create universes.\n
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          Your analogy is a little broken. God wouldn’t be simply telling you not to. God is literally changing what you want to do, or any other number of “omnipotent” actions that are not possible by someone not omnipotent.\n
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          The concept itself is incompatible with reality that operates like ours. Ours has clear, obvious, demonstrable, and repeatable rules. If those rules change, we *literally cannot* tell.\n
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          Omnipotence is quite literally a pointless point when there is literally NOTHING that demonstrates power beyond the existing rules. There is literally nothing that breaks causality in our reality. Our reality and existence is quite literally incompatible with omnipotence as described in the bible.
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          Yes, but such a universe is still fundamentally incompatible with Christian (and most other) religious teachings.\n
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          There would be absolutely NO point in praying or asking for help in a universe with absolute free will, yet that is exactly what Christians (and many others) teach. It shows up all over in how they treat others and civil policy.\n
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          It’s why they’re so pro punishment: You make a choice to do bad things, you had free will to choose not to, so you must be bad. It’s not *completely* broken logic that they use, but it is absolutely not a self-consistent set of rules.
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          The great irony is, the Prime Directive is to try and control the emotional overreaction of humans and is indeed often ignored by Star Trek for supposedly moral reasons… It is terribly ironic that it makes such a perfect analogy to how God, a supposedly far superior being, is described as acting in the Bible.\n
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          In Star Trek, it’s ignored to help people. In the Bible, it’s ignored because God is having a bad day and needs to lay down some punishment without being labeled a massive hypocrite because daddy do no wrong.
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    The actual truth if you believe Christian theology. Angels AND God are fully capable of changing things, but free will is sort of like the Prime Directive in Star Trek if you want to be charitable. Uncharitably, we’re God’s play things and only a tiny fraction of the most loyal will see true reward.\n
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    The vast field of ambiguity between those two points is … kinda’ the point in why there has been so much quarrel even between Christian sects.
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          The point about being omnipotent vs free will is… if he does ANYTHING to change our fate, he’s corrupting free will, which is supposed to be our greatest gift.\n
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          The entire concept of an omniprescient and all powerful being is nonsensical as described by Christians. A being LITERALLY CANNOT be all knowing, all kind, and omnipotent. Not if our reality is involved.\n
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          That’s only the kind and charitable interpretations. There are ample stories of God directly murderizing people just for disobeying a direct order.\n
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          IMO, it’s all complete codswallop that’s been misconstrued off of the simple recordings of history and an attempt at passing on wisdom about which rulers were good and why.\n
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          After all, all it takes is some narcissistic piece of shit emperor to declare they shall be referred to as “god”, and no other rulers will even be recorded as having a similar honorific … and bam. God as described in the Bible suddenly makes perfect sense being a fickle piece of shit because he’s just a bastardized history of seemingly good rulers dealing with completely different problems in completely different ways.\n
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          I mean… Not really. Paradoxes don’t actually exist. Causality itself would fail to work if literally inconsistent things could be magically made consistent. It’s fundamentally not how the universe works. Literally. What you ask for *could* exist, but not in a universe that behaves like ours. It is fundamentally incompatible with what is observed.\n
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          Yes, completely and fundamentally incompatible. Even if God could start up a billion universes with a billion rules … ours doesn’t work like that. It’s like a game character saying, “yea well the devs could totally make this RPG a FPS game!”\n
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          Is the *possibility* true? Yes. Though for no reason the game character will ever comprehend nor be able to ever observe. It is fundamentally a pointless point that adds no new information to the equation.
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          Logic requires cause and effect. If you break cause and effect, logic means nothing.\n
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          If you keep logic, then again: Paradoxes don’t actually exist. At the end of the day, something is true or it’s not. If you’re dealing with something both true and not true, you are literally and quite directly dealing with something unresolved. We fundamentally do not observe unresolved things.\n
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          It is conceptually, definitionally, not compatible with observed reality. “Observed reality” *literally cannot* reference such things. The question itself is nothing but a thought experiment that far too many people fail to execute.
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          Depends entirely on the religious sect. Some believe we live happily ever after in a similar condition but in paradise, some believe the believers get ascended to godhood, literally able to create universes.\n
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          It is an entire spectrum of fantasy, and that’s just the Christian sects.
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        +body: "Oh excellent, sounds like a book I’ll have to pick up so I can put some real substance behind my hunches. Thanks for the recommend."
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          Your analogy is a little broken. God wouldn’t be simply telling you not to. God is literally changing what you want to do, or any other number of “omnipotent” actions that are not possible by someone not omnipotent.\n
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          The concept itself is incompatible with reality that operates like ours. Ours has clear, obvious, demonstrable, and repeatable rules. If those rules change, we *literally cannot* tell.\n
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          Omnipotence is quite literally a pointless point when there is literally NOTHING that demonstrates power beyond the existing rules. There is literally nothing that breaks causality in our reality. Our reality and existence is quite literally incompatible with omnipotence as described in the bible.
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          Yes, but such a universe is still fundamentally incompatible with Christian (and most other) religious teachings.\n
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          There would be absolutely NO point in praying or asking for help in a universe with absolute free will, yet that is exactly what Christians (and many others) teach. It shows up all over in how they treat others and civil policy.\n
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          It’s why they’re so pro punishment: You make a choice to do bad things, you had free will to choose not to, so you must be bad. It’s not *completely* broken logic that they use, but it is absolutely not a self-consistent set of rules.
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          The great irony is, the Prime Directive is to try and control the emotional overreaction of humans and is indeed often ignored by Star Trek for supposedly moral reasons… It is terribly ironic that it makes such a perfect analogy to how God, a supposedly far superior being, is described as acting in the Bible.\n
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          In Star Trek, it’s ignored to help people. In the Bible, it’s ignored because God is having a bad day and needs to lay down some punishment without being labeled a massive hypocrite because daddy do no wrong.
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    The actual truth if you believe Christian theology. Angels AND God are fully capable of changing things, but free will is sort of like the Prime Directive in Star Trek if you want to be charitable. Uncharitably, we’re God’s play things and only a tiny fraction of the most loyal will see true reward.\n
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    The vast field of ambiguity between those two points is … kinda’ the point in why there has been so much quarrel even between Christian sects.
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          The point about being omnipotent vs free will is… if he does ANYTHING to change our fate, he’s corrupting free will, which is supposed to be our greatest gift.\n
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          The entire concept of an omniprescient and all powerful being is nonsensical as described by Christians. A being LITERALLY CANNOT be all knowing, all kind, and omnipotent. Not if our reality is involved.\n
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          That is why there is so much debate over the nature of god and “good”. As described, it is literally impossible, so it becomes incredibly subjective.\n
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          Morals are subjective, and so is God.
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          That’s only the kind and charitable interpretations. There are ample stories of God directly murderizing people just for disobeying a direct order.\n
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          IMO, it’s all complete codswallop that’s been misconstrued off of the simple recordings of history and an attempt at passing on wisdom about which rulers were good and why.\n
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          After all, all it takes is some narcissistic piece of shit emperor to declare they shall be referred to as “god”, and no other rulers will even be recorded as having a similar honorific … and bam. God as described in the Bible suddenly makes perfect sense being a fickle piece of shit because he’s just a bastardized history of seemingly good rulers dealing with completely different problems in completely different ways.\n
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          I mean… Not really. Paradoxes don’t actually exist. Causality itself would fail to work if literally inconsistent things could be magically made consistent. It’s fundamentally not how the universe works. Literally. What you ask for *could* exist, but not in a universe that behaves like ours. It is fundamentally incompatible with what is observed.\n
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          Yes, completely and fundamentally incompatible. Even if God could start up a billion universes with a billion rules … ours doesn’t work like that. It’s like a game character saying, “yea well the devs could totally make this RPG a FPS game!”\n
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          Logic requires cause and effect. If you break cause and effect, logic means nothing.\n
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          If you keep logic, then again: Paradoxes don’t actually exist. At the end of the day, something is true or it’s not. If you’re dealing with something both true and not true, you are literally and quite directly dealing with something unresolved. We fundamentally do not observe unresolved things.\n
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          It is conceptually, definitionally, not compatible with observed reality. “Observed reality” *literally cannot* reference such things. The question itself is nothing but a thought experiment that far too many people fail to execute.
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          Depends entirely on the religious sect. Some believe we live happily ever after in a similar condition but in paradise, some believe the believers get ascended to godhood, literally able to create universes.\n
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          It is an entire spectrum of fantasy, and that’s just the Christian sects.
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        +body: "Oh excellent, sounds like a book I’ll have to pick up so I can put some real substance behind my hunches. Thanks for the recommend."
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          Your analogy is a little broken. God wouldn’t be simply telling you not to. God is literally changing what you want to do, or any other number of “omnipotent” actions that are not possible by someone not omnipotent.\n
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          The concept itself is incompatible with reality that operates like ours. Ours has clear, obvious, demonstrable, and repeatable rules. If those rules change, we *literally cannot* tell.\n
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          Omnipotence is quite literally a pointless point when there is literally NOTHING that demonstrates power beyond the existing rules. There is literally nothing that breaks causality in our reality. Our reality and existence is quite literally incompatible with omnipotence as described in the bible.
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          Yes, but such a universe is still fundamentally incompatible with Christian (and most other) religious teachings.\n
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          There would be absolutely NO point in praying or asking for help in a universe with absolute free will, yet that is exactly what Christians (and many others) teach. It shows up all over in how they treat others and civil policy.\n
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          It’s why they’re so pro punishment: You make a choice to do bad things, you had free will to choose not to, so you must be bad. It’s not *completely* broken logic that they use, but it is absolutely not a self-consistent set of rules.
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          The great irony is, the Prime Directive is to try and control the emotional overreaction of humans and is indeed often ignored by Star Trek for supposedly moral reasons… It is terribly ironic that it makes such a perfect analogy to how God, a supposedly far superior being, is described as acting in the Bible.\n
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          In Star Trek, it’s ignored to help people. In the Bible, it’s ignored because God is having a bad day and needs to lay down some punishment without being labeled a massive hypocrite because daddy do no wrong.
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    The actual truth if you believe Christian theology. Angels AND God are fully capable of changing things, but free will is sort of like the Prime Directive in Star Trek if you want to be charitable. Uncharitably, we’re God’s play things and only a tiny fraction of the most loyal will see true reward.\n
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            The actual truth if you believe Christian theology. Angels AND God are fully capable of changing things, but free will is sort of like the Prime Directive in Star Trek if you want to be charitable. Uncharitably, we’re God’s play things and only a tiny fraction of the most loyal will see true reward.\n
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          The point about being omnipotent vs free will is… if he does ANYTHING to change our fate, he’s corrupting free will, which is supposed to be our greatest gift.\n
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          The entire concept of an omniprescient and all powerful being is nonsensical as described by Christians. A being LITERALLY CANNOT be all knowing, all kind, and omnipotent. Not if our reality is involved.\n
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          Morals are subjective, and so is God.
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          I mean… Not really. Paradoxes don’t actually exist. Causality itself would fail to work if literally inconsistent things could be magically made consistent. It’s fundamentally not how the universe works. Literally. What you ask for *could* exist, but not in a universe that behaves like ours. It is fundamentally incompatible with what is observed.\n
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          Yes, completely and fundamentally incompatible. Even if God could start up a billion universes with a billion rules … ours doesn’t work like that. It’s like a game character saying, “yea well the devs could totally make this RPG a FPS game!”\n
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          Logic requires cause and effect. If you break cause and effect, logic means nothing.\n
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          Depends entirely on the religious sect. Some believe we live happily ever after in a similar condition but in paradise, some believe the believers get ascended to godhood, literally able to create universes.\n
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          It is an entire spectrum of fantasy, and that’s just the Christian sects.
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        +body: "Oh excellent, sounds like a book I’ll have to pick up so I can put some real substance behind my hunches. Thanks for the recommend."
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          Your analogy is a little broken. God wouldn’t be simply telling you not to. God is literally changing what you want to do, or any other number of “omnipotent” actions that are not possible by someone not omnipotent.\n
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          The concept itself is incompatible with reality that operates like ours. Ours has clear, obvious, demonstrable, and repeatable rules. If those rules change, we *literally cannot* tell.\n
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          Omnipotence is quite literally a pointless point when there is literally NOTHING that demonstrates power beyond the existing rules. There is literally nothing that breaks causality in our reality. Our reality and existence is quite literally incompatible with omnipotence as described in the bible.
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          Yes, but such a universe is still fundamentally incompatible with Christian (and most other) religious teachings.\n
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          There would be absolutely NO point in praying or asking for help in a universe with absolute free will, yet that is exactly what Christians (and many others) teach. It shows up all over in how they treat others and civil policy.\n
          \n
          It’s why they’re so pro punishment: You make a choice to do bad things, you had free will to choose not to, so you must be bad. It’s not *completely* broken logic that they use, but it is absolutely not a self-consistent set of rules.
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          The great irony is, the Prime Directive is to try and control the emotional overreaction of humans and is indeed often ignored by Star Trek for supposedly moral reasons… It is terribly ironic that it makes such a perfect analogy to how God, a supposedly far superior being, is described as acting in the Bible.\n
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          In Star Trek, it’s ignored to help people. In the Bible, it’s ignored because God is having a bad day and needs to lay down some punishment without being labeled a massive hypocrite because daddy do no wrong.
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    That’s only the kind and charitable interpretations. There are ample stories of God directly murderizing people just for disobeying a direct order.\n
    \n
    IMO, it’s all complete codswallop that’s been misconstrued off of the simple recordings of history and an attempt at passing on wisdom about which rulers were good and why.\n
    \n
    After all, all it takes is some narcissistic piece of shit emperor to declare they shall be referred to as “god”, and no other rulers will even be recorded as having a similar honorific … and bam. God as described in the Bible suddenly makes perfect sense being a fickle piece of shit because he’s just a bastardized history of seemingly good rulers dealing with completely different problems in completely different ways.\n
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    Now, I don’t think that’s all of it. There is obviously much spirituality and baby’s first philosophy wrapped up in there, too.
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            The actual truth if you believe Christian theology. Angels AND God are fully capable of changing things, but free will is sort of like the Prime Directive in Star Trek if you want to be charitable. Uncharitably, we’re God’s play things and only a tiny fraction of the most loyal will see true reward.\n
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          The point about being omnipotent vs free will is… if he does ANYTHING to change our fate, he’s corrupting free will, which is supposed to be our greatest gift.\n
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          The entire concept of an omniprescient and all powerful being is nonsensical as described by Christians. A being LITERALLY CANNOT be all knowing, all kind, and omnipotent. Not if our reality is involved.\n
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          That is why there is so much debate over the nature of god and “good”. As described, it is literally impossible, so it becomes incredibly subjective.\n
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          Morals are subjective, and so is God.
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          I mean… Not really. Paradoxes don’t actually exist. Causality itself would fail to work if literally inconsistent things could be magically made consistent. It’s fundamentally not how the universe works. Literally. What you ask for *could* exist, but not in a universe that behaves like ours. It is fundamentally incompatible with what is observed.\n
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          Logic requires cause and effect. If you break cause and effect, logic means nothing.\n
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          Depends entirely on the religious sect. Some believe we live happily ever after in a similar condition but in paradise, some believe the believers get ascended to godhood, literally able to create universes.\n
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          It is an entire spectrum of fantasy, and that’s just the Christian sects.
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          Your analogy is a little broken. God wouldn’t be simply telling you not to. God is literally changing what you want to do, or any other number of “omnipotent” actions that are not possible by someone not omnipotent.\n
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          The concept itself is incompatible with reality that operates like ours. Ours has clear, obvious, demonstrable, and repeatable rules. If those rules change, we *literally cannot* tell.\n
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          Omnipotence is quite literally a pointless point when there is literally NOTHING that demonstrates power beyond the existing rules. There is literally nothing that breaks causality in our reality. Our reality and existence is quite literally incompatible with omnipotence as described in the bible.
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          Yes, but such a universe is still fundamentally incompatible with Christian (and most other) religious teachings.\n
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          There would be absolutely NO point in praying or asking for help in a universe with absolute free will, yet that is exactly what Christians (and many others) teach. It shows up all over in how they treat others and civil policy.\n
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          The great irony is, the Prime Directive is to try and control the emotional overreaction of humans and is indeed often ignored by Star Trek for supposedly moral reasons… It is terribly ironic that it makes such a perfect analogy to how God, a supposedly far superior being, is described as acting in the Bible.\n
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          In Star Trek, it’s ignored to help people. In the Bible, it’s ignored because God is having a bad day and needs to lay down some punishment without being labeled a massive hypocrite because daddy do no wrong.
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    That’s only the kind and charitable interpretations. There are ample stories of God directly murderizing people just for disobeying a direct order.\n
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    IMO, it’s all complete codswallop that’s been misconstrued off of the simple recordings of history and an attempt at passing on wisdom about which rulers were good and why.\n
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    After all, all it takes is some narcissistic piece of shit emperor to declare they shall be referred to as “god”, and no other rulers will even be recorded as having a similar honorific … and bam. God as described in the Bible suddenly makes perfect sense being a fickle piece of shit because he’s just a bastardized history of seemingly good rulers dealing with completely different problems in completely different ways.\n
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            The actual truth if you believe Christian theology. Angels AND God are fully capable of changing things, but free will is sort of like the Prime Directive in Star Trek if you want to be charitable. Uncharitably, we’re God’s play things and only a tiny fraction of the most loyal will see true reward.\n
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          The point about being omnipotent vs free will is… if he does ANYTHING to change our fate, he’s corrupting free will, which is supposed to be our greatest gift.\n
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          The entire concept of an omniprescient and all powerful being is nonsensical as described by Christians. A being LITERALLY CANNOT be all knowing, all kind, and omnipotent. Not if our reality is involved.\n
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          I mean… Not really. Paradoxes don’t actually exist. Causality itself would fail to work if literally inconsistent things could be magically made consistent. It’s fundamentally not how the universe works. Literally. What you ask for *could* exist, but not in a universe that behaves like ours. It is fundamentally incompatible with what is observed.\n
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          Logic requires cause and effect. If you break cause and effect, logic means nothing.\n
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          Depends entirely on the religious sect. Some believe we live happily ever after in a similar condition but in paradise, some believe the believers get ascended to godhood, literally able to create universes.\n
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        +body: "Oh excellent, sounds like a book I’ll have to pick up so I can put some real substance behind my hunches. Thanks for the recommend."
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          Your analogy is a little broken. God wouldn’t be simply telling you not to. God is literally changing what you want to do, or any other number of “omnipotent” actions that are not possible by someone not omnipotent.\n
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          The concept itself is incompatible with reality that operates like ours. Ours has clear, obvious, demonstrable, and repeatable rules. If those rules change, we *literally cannot* tell.\n
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          Omnipotence is quite literally a pointless point when there is literally NOTHING that demonstrates power beyond the existing rules. There is literally nothing that breaks causality in our reality. Our reality and existence is quite literally incompatible with omnipotence as described in the bible.
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          Yes, but such a universe is still fundamentally incompatible with Christian (and most other) religious teachings.\n
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          There would be absolutely NO point in praying or asking for help in a universe with absolute free will, yet that is exactly what Christians (and many others) teach. It shows up all over in how they treat others and civil policy.\n
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          The great irony is, the Prime Directive is to try and control the emotional overreaction of humans and is indeed often ignored by Star Trek for supposedly moral reasons… It is terribly ironic that it makes such a perfect analogy to how God, a supposedly far superior being, is described as acting in the Bible.\n
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          In Star Trek, it’s ignored to help people. In the Bible, it’s ignored because God is having a bad day and needs to lay down some punishment without being labeled a massive hypocrite because daddy do no wrong.
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    That’s only the kind and charitable interpretations. There are ample stories of God directly murderizing people just for disobeying a direct order.\n
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    IMO, it’s all complete codswallop that’s been misconstrued off of the simple recordings of history and an attempt at passing on wisdom about which rulers were good and why.\n
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    After all, all it takes is some narcissistic piece of shit emperor to declare they shall be referred to as “god”, and no other rulers will even be recorded as having a similar honorific … and bam. God as described in the Bible suddenly makes perfect sense being a fickle piece of shit because he’s just a bastardized history of seemingly good rulers dealing with completely different problems in completely different ways.\n
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    Now, I don’t think that’s all of it. There is obviously much spirituality and baby’s first philosophy wrapped up in there, too.
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            The actual truth if you believe Christian theology. Angels AND God are fully capable of changing things, but free will is sort of like the Prime Directive in Star Trek if you want to be charitable. Uncharitably, we’re God’s play things and only a tiny fraction of the most loyal will see true reward.\n
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            The vast field of ambiguity between those two points is … kinda’ the point in why there has been so much quarrel even between Christian sects.
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          The point about being omnipotent vs free will is… if he does ANYTHING to change our fate, he’s corrupting free will, which is supposed to be our greatest gift.\n
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          The entire concept of an omniprescient and all powerful being is nonsensical as described by Christians. A being LITERALLY CANNOT be all knowing, all kind, and omnipotent. Not if our reality is involved.\n
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          That is why there is so much debate over the nature of god and “good”. As described, it is literally impossible, so it becomes incredibly subjective.\n
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          Morals are subjective, and so is God.
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          That’s only the kind and charitable interpretations. There are ample stories of God directly murderizing people just for disobeying a direct order.\n
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          IMO, it’s all complete codswallop that’s been misconstrued off of the simple recordings of history and an attempt at passing on wisdom about which rulers were good and why.\n
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          After all, all it takes is some narcissistic piece of shit emperor to declare they shall be referred to as “god”, and no other rulers will even be recorded as having a similar honorific … and bam. God as described in the Bible suddenly makes perfect sense being a fickle piece of shit because he’s just a bastardized history of seemingly good rulers dealing with completely different problems in completely different ways.\n
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          Logic requires cause and effect. If you break cause and effect, logic means nothing.\n
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          If you keep logic, then again: Paradoxes don’t actually exist. At the end of the day, something is true or it’s not. If you’re dealing with something both true and not true, you are literally and quite directly dealing with something unresolved. We fundamentally do not observe unresolved things.\n
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          It is conceptually, definitionally, not compatible with observed reality. “Observed reality” *literally cannot* reference such things. The question itself is nothing but a thought experiment that far too many people fail to execute.
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          Depends entirely on the religious sect. Some believe we live happily ever after in a similar condition but in paradise, some believe the believers get ascended to godhood, literally able to create universes.\n
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          It is an entire spectrum of fantasy, and that’s just the Christian sects.
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        +body: "Oh excellent, sounds like a book I’ll have to pick up so I can put some real substance behind my hunches. Thanks for the recommend."
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          Your analogy is a little broken. God wouldn’t be simply telling you not to. God is literally changing what you want to do, or any other number of “omnipotent” actions that are not possible by someone not omnipotent.\n
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          The concept itself is incompatible with reality that operates like ours. Ours has clear, obvious, demonstrable, and repeatable rules. If those rules change, we *literally cannot* tell.\n
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          Omnipotence is quite literally a pointless point when there is literally NOTHING that demonstrates power beyond the existing rules. There is literally nothing that breaks causality in our reality. Our reality and existence is quite literally incompatible with omnipotence as described in the bible.
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          Yes, but such a universe is still fundamentally incompatible with Christian (and most other) religious teachings.\n
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          There would be absolutely NO point in praying or asking for help in a universe with absolute free will, yet that is exactly what Christians (and many others) teach. It shows up all over in how they treat others and civil policy.\n
          \n
          It’s why they’re so pro punishment: You make a choice to do bad things, you had free will to choose not to, so you must be bad. It’s not *completely* broken logic that they use, but it is absolutely not a self-consistent set of rules.
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          The great irony is, the Prime Directive is to try and control the emotional overreaction of humans and is indeed often ignored by Star Trek for supposedly moral reasons… It is terribly ironic that it makes such a perfect analogy to how God, a supposedly far superior being, is described as acting in the Bible.\n
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          In Star Trek, it’s ignored to help people. In the Bible, it’s ignored because God is having a bad day and needs to lay down some punishment without being labeled a massive hypocrite because daddy do no wrong.
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    I mean… Not really. Paradoxes don’t actually exist. Causality itself would fail to work if literally inconsistent things could be magically made consistent. It’s fundamentally not how the universe works. Literally. What you ask for *could* exist, but not in a universe that behaves like ours. It is fundamentally incompatible with what is observed.\n
    \n
    Yes, completely and fundamentally incompatible. Even if God could start up a billion universes with a billion rules … ours doesn’t work like that. It’s like a game character saying, “yea well the devs could totally make this RPG a FPS game!”\n
    \n
    Is the *possibility* true? Yes. Though for no reason the game character will ever comprehend nor be able to ever observe. It is fundamentally a pointless point that adds no new information to the equation.
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            The actual truth if you believe Christian theology. Angels AND God are fully capable of changing things, but free will is sort of like the Prime Directive in Star Trek if you want to be charitable. Uncharitably, we’re God’s play things and only a tiny fraction of the most loyal will see true reward.\n
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            The vast field of ambiguity between those two points is … kinda’ the point in why there has been so much quarrel even between Christian sects.
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          The point about being omnipotent vs free will is… if he does ANYTHING to change our fate, he’s corrupting free will, which is supposed to be our greatest gift.\n
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          The entire concept of an omniprescient and all powerful being is nonsensical as described by Christians. A being LITERALLY CANNOT be all knowing, all kind, and omnipotent. Not if our reality is involved.\n
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          That is why there is so much debate over the nature of god and “good”. As described, it is literally impossible, so it becomes incredibly subjective.\n
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          Morals are subjective, and so is God.
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          That’s only the kind and charitable interpretations. There are ample stories of God directly murderizing people just for disobeying a direct order.\n
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          IMO, it’s all complete codswallop that’s been misconstrued off of the simple recordings of history and an attempt at passing on wisdom about which rulers were good and why.\n
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          After all, all it takes is some narcissistic piece of shit emperor to declare they shall be referred to as “god”, and no other rulers will even be recorded as having a similar honorific … and bam. God as described in the Bible suddenly makes perfect sense being a fickle piece of shit because he’s just a bastardized history of seemingly good rulers dealing with completely different problems in completely different ways.\n
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          Logic requires cause and effect. If you break cause and effect, logic means nothing.\n
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          Depends entirely on the religious sect. Some believe we live happily ever after in a similar condition but in paradise, some believe the believers get ascended to godhood, literally able to create universes.\n
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          It is an entire spectrum of fantasy, and that’s just the Christian sects.
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        +body: "Oh excellent, sounds like a book I’ll have to pick up so I can put some real substance behind my hunches. Thanks for the recommend."
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          Your analogy is a little broken. God wouldn’t be simply telling you not to. God is literally changing what you want to do, or any other number of “omnipotent” actions that are not possible by someone not omnipotent.\n
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          The concept itself is incompatible with reality that operates like ours. Ours has clear, obvious, demonstrable, and repeatable rules. If those rules change, we *literally cannot* tell.\n
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          Omnipotence is quite literally a pointless point when there is literally NOTHING that demonstrates power beyond the existing rules. There is literally nothing that breaks causality in our reality. Our reality and existence is quite literally incompatible with omnipotence as described in the bible.
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          Yes, but such a universe is still fundamentally incompatible with Christian (and most other) religious teachings.\n
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          There would be absolutely NO point in praying or asking for help in a universe with absolute free will, yet that is exactly what Christians (and many others) teach. It shows up all over in how they treat others and civil policy.\n
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          The great irony is, the Prime Directive is to try and control the emotional overreaction of humans and is indeed often ignored by Star Trek for supposedly moral reasons… It is terribly ironic that it makes such a perfect analogy to how God, a supposedly far superior being, is described as acting in the Bible.\n
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          In Star Trek, it’s ignored to help people. In the Bible, it’s ignored because God is having a bad day and needs to lay down some punishment without being labeled a massive hypocrite because daddy do no wrong.
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    I mean… Not really. Paradoxes don’t actually exist. Causality itself would fail to work if literally inconsistent things could be magically made consistent. It’s fundamentally not how the universe works. Literally. What you ask for *could* exist, but not in a universe that behaves like ours. It is fundamentally incompatible with what is observed.\n
    \n
    Yes, completely and fundamentally incompatible. Even if God could start up a billion universes with a billion rules … ours doesn’t work like that. It’s like a game character saying, “yea well the devs could totally make this RPG a FPS game!”\n
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    Is the *possibility* true? Yes. Though for no reason the game character will ever comprehend nor be able to ever observe. It is fundamentally a pointless point that adds no new information to the equation.
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            The actual truth if you believe Christian theology. Angels AND God are fully capable of changing things, but free will is sort of like the Prime Directive in Star Trek if you want to be charitable. Uncharitably, we’re God’s play things and only a tiny fraction of the most loyal will see true reward.\n
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          The point about being omnipotent vs free will is… if he does ANYTHING to change our fate, he’s corrupting free will, which is supposed to be our greatest gift.\n
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          The entire concept of an omniprescient and all powerful being is nonsensical as described by Christians. A being LITERALLY CANNOT be all knowing, all kind, and omnipotent. Not if our reality is involved.\n
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          That’s only the kind and charitable interpretations. There are ample stories of God directly murderizing people just for disobeying a direct order.\n
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          Logic requires cause and effect. If you break cause and effect, logic means nothing.\n
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          Depends entirely on the religious sect. Some believe we live happily ever after in a similar condition but in paradise, some believe the believers get ascended to godhood, literally able to create universes.\n
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          It is an entire spectrum of fantasy, and that’s just the Christian sects.
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          Your analogy is a little broken. God wouldn’t be simply telling you not to. God is literally changing what you want to do, or any other number of “omnipotent” actions that are not possible by someone not omnipotent.\n
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          The concept itself is incompatible with reality that operates like ours. Ours has clear, obvious, demonstrable, and repeatable rules. If those rules change, we *literally cannot* tell.\n
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          Omnipotence is quite literally a pointless point when there is literally NOTHING that demonstrates power beyond the existing rules. There is literally nothing that breaks causality in our reality. Our reality and existence is quite literally incompatible with omnipotence as described in the bible.
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          Yes, but such a universe is still fundamentally incompatible with Christian (and most other) religious teachings.\n
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          There would be absolutely NO point in praying or asking for help in a universe with absolute free will, yet that is exactly what Christians (and many others) teach. It shows up all over in how they treat others and civil policy.\n
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          The great irony is, the Prime Directive is to try and control the emotional overreaction of humans and is indeed often ignored by Star Trek for supposedly moral reasons… It is terribly ironic that it makes such a perfect analogy to how God, a supposedly far superior being, is described as acting in the Bible.\n
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          In Star Trek, it’s ignored to help people. In the Bible, it’s ignored because God is having a bad day and needs to lay down some punishment without being labeled a massive hypocrite because daddy do no wrong.
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    I mean… Not really. Paradoxes don’t actually exist. Causality itself would fail to work if literally inconsistent things could be magically made consistent. It’s fundamentally not how the universe works. Literally. What you ask for *could* exist, but not in a universe that behaves like ours. It is fundamentally incompatible with what is observed.\n
    \n
    Yes, completely and fundamentally incompatible. Even if God could start up a billion universes with a billion rules … ours doesn’t work like that. It’s like a game character saying, “yea well the devs could totally make this RPG a FPS game!”\n
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    Is the *possibility* true? Yes. Though for no reason the game character will ever comprehend nor be able to ever observe. It is fundamentally a pointless point that adds no new information to the equation.
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            The actual truth if you believe Christian theology. Angels AND God are fully capable of changing things, but free will is sort of like the Prime Directive in Star Trek if you want to be charitable. Uncharitably, we’re God’s play things and only a tiny fraction of the most loyal will see true reward.\n
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          The point about being omnipotent vs free will is… if he does ANYTHING to change our fate, he’s corrupting free will, which is supposed to be our greatest gift.\n
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          That’s only the kind and charitable interpretations. There are ample stories of God directly murderizing people just for disobeying a direct order.\n
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          I mean… Not really. Paradoxes don’t actually exist. Causality itself would fail to work if literally inconsistent things could be magically made consistent. It’s fundamentally not how the universe works. Literally. What you ask for *could* exist, but not in a universe that behaves like ours. It is fundamentally incompatible with what is observed.\n
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          Yes, completely and fundamentally incompatible. Even if God could start up a billion universes with a billion rules … ours doesn’t work like that. It’s like a game character saying, “yea well the devs could totally make this RPG a FPS game!”\n
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          Depends entirely on the religious sect. Some believe we live happily ever after in a similar condition but in paradise, some believe the believers get ascended to godhood, literally able to create universes.\n
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        +body: "Oh excellent, sounds like a book I’ll have to pick up so I can put some real substance behind my hunches. Thanks for the recommend."
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          Your analogy is a little broken. God wouldn’t be simply telling you not to. God is literally changing what you want to do, or any other number of “omnipotent” actions that are not possible by someone not omnipotent.\n
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          The concept itself is incompatible with reality that operates like ours. Ours has clear, obvious, demonstrable, and repeatable rules. If those rules change, we *literally cannot* tell.\n
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          Omnipotence is quite literally a pointless point when there is literally NOTHING that demonstrates power beyond the existing rules. There is literally nothing that breaks causality in our reality. Our reality and existence is quite literally incompatible with omnipotence as described in the bible.
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          Yes, but such a universe is still fundamentally incompatible with Christian (and most other) religious teachings.\n
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          There would be absolutely NO point in praying or asking for help in a universe with absolute free will, yet that is exactly what Christians (and many others) teach. It shows up all over in how they treat others and civil policy.\n
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          It’s why they’re so pro punishment: You make a choice to do bad things, you had free will to choose not to, so you must be bad. It’s not *completely* broken logic that they use, but it is absolutely not a self-consistent set of rules.
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          The great irony is, the Prime Directive is to try and control the emotional overreaction of humans and is indeed often ignored by Star Trek for supposedly moral reasons… It is terribly ironic that it makes such a perfect analogy to how God, a supposedly far superior being, is described as acting in the Bible.\n
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          In Star Trek, it’s ignored to help people. In the Bible, it’s ignored because God is having a bad day and needs to lay down some punishment without being labeled a massive hypocrite because daddy do no wrong.
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    Logic requires cause and effect. If you break cause and effect, logic means nothing.\n
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    If you keep logic, then again: Paradoxes don’t actually exist. At the end of the day, something is true or it’s not. If you’re dealing with something both true and not true, you are literally and quite directly dealing with something unresolved. We fundamentally do not observe unresolved things.\n
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    It is conceptually, definitionally, not compatible with observed reality. “Observed reality” *literally cannot* reference such things. The question itself is nothing but a thought experiment that far too many people fail to execute.
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            The actual truth if you believe Christian theology. Angels AND God are fully capable of changing things, but free will is sort of like the Prime Directive in Star Trek if you want to be charitable. Uncharitably, we’re God’s play things and only a tiny fraction of the most loyal will see true reward.\n
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          The point about being omnipotent vs free will is… if he does ANYTHING to change our fate, he’s corrupting free will, which is supposed to be our greatest gift.\n
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          The entire concept of an omniprescient and all powerful being is nonsensical as described by Christians. A being LITERALLY CANNOT be all knowing, all kind, and omnipotent. Not if our reality is involved.\n
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          That is why there is so much debate over the nature of god and “good”. As described, it is literally impossible, so it becomes incredibly subjective.\n
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          Morals are subjective, and so is God.
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          That’s only the kind and charitable interpretations. There are ample stories of God directly murderizing people just for disobeying a direct order.\n
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          IMO, it’s all complete codswallop that’s been misconstrued off of the simple recordings of history and an attempt at passing on wisdom about which rulers were good and why.\n
          \n
          After all, all it takes is some narcissistic piece of shit emperor to declare they shall be referred to as “god”, and no other rulers will even be recorded as having a similar honorific … and bam. God as described in the Bible suddenly makes perfect sense being a fickle piece of shit because he’s just a bastardized history of seemingly good rulers dealing with completely different problems in completely different ways.\n
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          Now, I don’t think that’s all of it. There is obviously much spirituality and baby’s first philosophy wrapped up in there, too.
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          I mean… Not really. Paradoxes don’t actually exist. Causality itself would fail to work if literally inconsistent things could be magically made consistent. It’s fundamentally not how the universe works. Literally. What you ask for *could* exist, but not in a universe that behaves like ours. It is fundamentally incompatible with what is observed.\n
          \n
          Yes, completely and fundamentally incompatible. Even if God could start up a billion universes with a billion rules … ours doesn’t work like that. It’s like a game character saying, “yea well the devs could totally make this RPG a FPS game!”\n
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          Depends entirely on the religious sect. Some believe we live happily ever after in a similar condition but in paradise, some believe the believers get ascended to godhood, literally able to create universes.\n
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          It is an entire spectrum of fantasy, and that’s just the Christian sects.
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        +body: "Oh excellent, sounds like a book I’ll have to pick up so I can put some real substance behind my hunches. Thanks for the recommend."
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          Your analogy is a little broken. God wouldn’t be simply telling you not to. God is literally changing what you want to do, or any other number of “omnipotent” actions that are not possible by someone not omnipotent.\n
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          The concept itself is incompatible with reality that operates like ours. Ours has clear, obvious, demonstrable, and repeatable rules. If those rules change, we *literally cannot* tell.\n
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          Omnipotence is quite literally a pointless point when there is literally NOTHING that demonstrates power beyond the existing rules. There is literally nothing that breaks causality in our reality. Our reality and existence is quite literally incompatible with omnipotence as described in the bible.
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          Yes, but such a universe is still fundamentally incompatible with Christian (and most other) religious teachings.\n
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          There would be absolutely NO point in praying or asking for help in a universe with absolute free will, yet that is exactly what Christians (and many others) teach. It shows up all over in how they treat others and civil policy.\n
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          It’s why they’re so pro punishment: You make a choice to do bad things, you had free will to choose not to, so you must be bad. It’s not *completely* broken logic that they use, but it is absolutely not a self-consistent set of rules.
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          The great irony is, the Prime Directive is to try and control the emotional overreaction of humans and is indeed often ignored by Star Trek for supposedly moral reasons… It is terribly ironic that it makes such a perfect analogy to how God, a supposedly far superior being, is described as acting in the Bible.\n
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          In Star Trek, it’s ignored to help people. In the Bible, it’s ignored because God is having a bad day and needs to lay down some punishment without being labeled a massive hypocrite because daddy do no wrong.
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    Logic requires cause and effect. If you break cause and effect, logic means nothing.\n
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    If you keep logic, then again: Paradoxes don’t actually exist. At the end of the day, something is true or it’s not. If you’re dealing with something both true and not true, you are literally and quite directly dealing with something unresolved. We fundamentally do not observe unresolved things.\n
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    It is conceptually, definitionally, not compatible with observed reality. “Observed reality” *literally cannot* reference such things. The question itself is nothing but a thought experiment that far too many people fail to execute.
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            The actual truth if you believe Christian theology. Angels AND God are fully capable of changing things, but free will is sort of like the Prime Directive in Star Trek if you want to be charitable. Uncharitably, we’re God’s play things and only a tiny fraction of the most loyal will see true reward.\n
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            The vast field of ambiguity between those two points is … kinda’ the point in why there has been so much quarrel even between Christian sects.
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          The point about being omnipotent vs free will is… if he does ANYTHING to change our fate, he’s corrupting free will, which is supposed to be our greatest gift.\n
          \n
          The entire concept of an omniprescient and all powerful being is nonsensical as described by Christians. A being LITERALLY CANNOT be all knowing, all kind, and omnipotent. Not if our reality is involved.\n
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          That is why there is so much debate over the nature of god and “good”. As described, it is literally impossible, so it becomes incredibly subjective.\n
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          Morals are subjective, and so is God.
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          That’s only the kind and charitable interpretations. There are ample stories of God directly murderizing people just for disobeying a direct order.\n
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          IMO, it’s all complete codswallop that’s been misconstrued off of the simple recordings of history and an attempt at passing on wisdom about which rulers were good and why.\n
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          After all, all it takes is some narcissistic piece of shit emperor to declare they shall be referred to as “god”, and no other rulers will even be recorded as having a similar honorific … and bam. God as described in the Bible suddenly makes perfect sense being a fickle piece of shit because he’s just a bastardized history of seemingly good rulers dealing with completely different problems in completely different ways.\n
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          I mean… Not really. Paradoxes don’t actually exist. Causality itself would fail to work if literally inconsistent things could be magically made consistent. It’s fundamentally not how the universe works. Literally. What you ask for *could* exist, but not in a universe that behaves like ours. It is fundamentally incompatible with what is observed.\n
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          Yes, completely and fundamentally incompatible. Even if God could start up a billion universes with a billion rules … ours doesn’t work like that. It’s like a game character saying, “yea well the devs could totally make this RPG a FPS game!”\n
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          Depends entirely on the religious sect. Some believe we live happily ever after in a similar condition but in paradise, some believe the believers get ascended to godhood, literally able to create universes.\n
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          It is an entire spectrum of fantasy, and that’s just the Christian sects.
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        +body: "Oh excellent, sounds like a book I’ll have to pick up so I can put some real substance behind my hunches. Thanks for the recommend."
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          Your analogy is a little broken. God wouldn’t be simply telling you not to. God is literally changing what you want to do, or any other number of “omnipotent” actions that are not possible by someone not omnipotent.\n
          \n
          The concept itself is incompatible with reality that operates like ours. Ours has clear, obvious, demonstrable, and repeatable rules. If those rules change, we *literally cannot* tell.\n
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          Omnipotence is quite literally a pointless point when there is literally NOTHING that demonstrates power beyond the existing rules. There is literally nothing that breaks causality in our reality. Our reality and existence is quite literally incompatible with omnipotence as described in the bible.
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          Yes, but such a universe is still fundamentally incompatible with Christian (and most other) religious teachings.\n
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          There would be absolutely NO point in praying or asking for help in a universe with absolute free will, yet that is exactly what Christians (and many others) teach. It shows up all over in how they treat others and civil policy.\n
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          It’s why they’re so pro punishment: You make a choice to do bad things, you had free will to choose not to, so you must be bad. It’s not *completely* broken logic that they use, but it is absolutely not a self-consistent set of rules.
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          The great irony is, the Prime Directive is to try and control the emotional overreaction of humans and is indeed often ignored by Star Trek for supposedly moral reasons… It is terribly ironic that it makes such a perfect analogy to how God, a supposedly far superior being, is described as acting in the Bible.\n
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    Logic requires cause and effect. If you break cause and effect, logic means nothing.\n
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    If you keep logic, then again: Paradoxes don’t actually exist. At the end of the day, something is true or it’s not. If you’re dealing with something both true and not true, you are literally and quite directly dealing with something unresolved. We fundamentally do not observe unresolved things.\n
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            The actual truth if you believe Christian theology. Angels AND God are fully capable of changing things, but free will is sort of like the Prime Directive in Star Trek if you want to be charitable. Uncharitably, we’re God’s play things and only a tiny fraction of the most loyal will see true reward.\n
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          The point about being omnipotent vs free will is… if he does ANYTHING to change our fate, he’s corrupting free will, which is supposed to be our greatest gift.\n
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          The entire concept of an omniprescient and all powerful being is nonsensical as described by Christians. A being LITERALLY CANNOT be all knowing, all kind, and omnipotent. Not if our reality is involved.\n
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          That’s only the kind and charitable interpretations. There are ample stories of God directly murderizing people just for disobeying a direct order.\n
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          I mean… Not really. Paradoxes don’t actually exist. Causality itself would fail to work if literally inconsistent things could be magically made consistent. It’s fundamentally not how the universe works. Literally. What you ask for *could* exist, but not in a universe that behaves like ours. It is fundamentally incompatible with what is observed.\n
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          Logic requires cause and effect. If you break cause and effect, logic means nothing.\n
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        +body: "Oh excellent, sounds like a book I’ll have to pick up so I can put some real substance behind my hunches. Thanks for the recommend."
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          Your analogy is a little broken. God wouldn’t be simply telling you not to. God is literally changing what you want to do, or any other number of “omnipotent” actions that are not possible by someone not omnipotent.\n
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          The concept itself is incompatible with reality that operates like ours. Ours has clear, obvious, demonstrable, and repeatable rules. If those rules change, we *literally cannot* tell.\n
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          Omnipotence is quite literally a pointless point when there is literally NOTHING that demonstrates power beyond the existing rules. There is literally nothing that breaks causality in our reality. Our reality and existence is quite literally incompatible with omnipotence as described in the bible.
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          Yes, but such a universe is still fundamentally incompatible with Christian (and most other) religious teachings.\n
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          There would be absolutely NO point in praying or asking for help in a universe with absolute free will, yet that is exactly what Christians (and many others) teach. It shows up all over in how they treat others and civil policy.\n
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          It’s why they’re so pro punishment: You make a choice to do bad things, you had free will to choose not to, so you must be bad. It’s not *completely* broken logic that they use, but it is absolutely not a self-consistent set of rules.
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          The great irony is, the Prime Directive is to try and control the emotional overreaction of humans and is indeed often ignored by Star Trek for supposedly moral reasons… It is terribly ironic that it makes such a perfect analogy to how God, a supposedly far superior being, is described as acting in the Bible.\n
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          In Star Trek, it’s ignored to help people. In the Bible, it’s ignored because God is having a bad day and needs to lay down some punishment without being labeled a massive hypocrite because daddy do no wrong.
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    Depends entirely on the religious sect. Some believe we live happily ever after in a similar condition but in paradise, some believe the believers get ascended to godhood, literally able to create universes.\n
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    It is an entire spectrum of fantasy, and that’s just the Christian sects.
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            The actual truth if you believe Christian theology. Angels AND God are fully capable of changing things, but free will is sort of like the Prime Directive in Star Trek if you want to be charitable. Uncharitably, we’re God’s play things and only a tiny fraction of the most loyal will see true reward.\n
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            The vast field of ambiguity between those two points is … kinda’ the point in why there has been so much quarrel even between Christian sects.
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          The point about being omnipotent vs free will is… if he does ANYTHING to change our fate, he’s corrupting free will, which is supposed to be our greatest gift.\n
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          The entire concept of an omniprescient and all powerful being is nonsensical as described by Christians. A being LITERALLY CANNOT be all knowing, all kind, and omnipotent. Not if our reality is involved.\n
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          That is why there is so much debate over the nature of god and “good”. As described, it is literally impossible, so it becomes incredibly subjective.\n
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          Morals are subjective, and so is God.
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          That’s only the kind and charitable interpretations. There are ample stories of God directly murderizing people just for disobeying a direct order.\n
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          After all, all it takes is some narcissistic piece of shit emperor to declare they shall be referred to as “god”, and no other rulers will even be recorded as having a similar honorific … and bam. God as described in the Bible suddenly makes perfect sense being a fickle piece of shit because he’s just a bastardized history of seemingly good rulers dealing with completely different problems in completely different ways.\n
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          I mean… Not really. Paradoxes don’t actually exist. Causality itself would fail to work if literally inconsistent things could be magically made consistent. It’s fundamentally not how the universe works. Literally. What you ask for *could* exist, but not in a universe that behaves like ours. It is fundamentally incompatible with what is observed.\n
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          Yes, completely and fundamentally incompatible. Even if God could start up a billion universes with a billion rules … ours doesn’t work like that. It’s like a game character saying, “yea well the devs could totally make this RPG a FPS game!”\n
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          Is the *possibility* true? Yes. Though for no reason the game character will ever comprehend nor be able to ever observe. It is fundamentally a pointless point that adds no new information to the equation.
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          Logic requires cause and effect. If you break cause and effect, logic means nothing.\n
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          If you keep logic, then again: Paradoxes don’t actually exist. At the end of the day, something is true or it’s not. If you’re dealing with something both true and not true, you are literally and quite directly dealing with something unresolved. We fundamentally do not observe unresolved things.\n
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          It is conceptually, definitionally, not compatible with observed reality. “Observed reality” *literally cannot* reference such things. The question itself is nothing but a thought experiment that far too many people fail to execute.
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        +body: "Oh excellent, sounds like a book I’ll have to pick up so I can put some real substance behind my hunches. Thanks for the recommend."
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          Your analogy is a little broken. God wouldn’t be simply telling you not to. God is literally changing what you want to do, or any other number of “omnipotent” actions that are not possible by someone not omnipotent.\n
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          The concept itself is incompatible with reality that operates like ours. Ours has clear, obvious, demonstrable, and repeatable rules. If those rules change, we *literally cannot* tell.\n
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          Omnipotence is quite literally a pointless point when there is literally NOTHING that demonstrates power beyond the existing rules. There is literally nothing that breaks causality in our reality. Our reality and existence is quite literally incompatible with omnipotence as described in the bible.
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          Yes, but such a universe is still fundamentally incompatible with Christian (and most other) religious teachings.\n
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          There would be absolutely NO point in praying or asking for help in a universe with absolute free will, yet that is exactly what Christians (and many others) teach. It shows up all over in how they treat others and civil policy.\n
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          It’s why they’re so pro punishment: You make a choice to do bad things, you had free will to choose not to, so you must be bad. It’s not *completely* broken logic that they use, but it is absolutely not a self-consistent set of rules.
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          The great irony is, the Prime Directive is to try and control the emotional overreaction of humans and is indeed often ignored by Star Trek for supposedly moral reasons… It is terribly ironic that it makes such a perfect analogy to how God, a supposedly far superior being, is described as acting in the Bible.\n
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          In Star Trek, it’s ignored to help people. In the Bible, it’s ignored because God is having a bad day and needs to lay down some punishment without being labeled a massive hypocrite because daddy do no wrong.
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    Depends entirely on the religious sect. Some believe we live happily ever after in a similar condition but in paradise, some believe the believers get ascended to godhood, literally able to create universes.\n
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    It is an entire spectrum of fantasy, and that’s just the Christian sects.
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            The actual truth if you believe Christian theology. Angels AND God are fully capable of changing things, but free will is sort of like the Prime Directive in Star Trek if you want to be charitable. Uncharitably, we’re God’s play things and only a tiny fraction of the most loyal will see true reward.\n
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          The point about being omnipotent vs free will is… if he does ANYTHING to change our fate, he’s corrupting free will, which is supposed to be our greatest gift.\n
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          The entire concept of an omniprescient and all powerful being is nonsensical as described by Christians. A being LITERALLY CANNOT be all knowing, all kind, and omnipotent. Not if our reality is involved.\n
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          That’s only the kind and charitable interpretations. There are ample stories of God directly murderizing people just for disobeying a direct order.\n
          \n
          IMO, it’s all complete codswallop that’s been misconstrued off of the simple recordings of history and an attempt at passing on wisdom about which rulers were good and why.\n
          \n
          After all, all it takes is some narcissistic piece of shit emperor to declare they shall be referred to as “god”, and no other rulers will even be recorded as having a similar honorific … and bam. God as described in the Bible suddenly makes perfect sense being a fickle piece of shit because he’s just a bastardized history of seemingly good rulers dealing with completely different problems in completely different ways.\n
          \n
          Now, I don’t think that’s all of it. There is obviously much spirituality and baby’s first philosophy wrapped up in there, too.
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          I mean… Not really. Paradoxes don’t actually exist. Causality itself would fail to work if literally inconsistent things could be magically made consistent. It’s fundamentally not how the universe works. Literally. What you ask for *could* exist, but not in a universe that behaves like ours. It is fundamentally incompatible with what is observed.\n
          \n
          Yes, completely and fundamentally incompatible. Even if God could start up a billion universes with a billion rules … ours doesn’t work like that. It’s like a game character saying, “yea well the devs could totally make this RPG a FPS game!”\n
          \n
          Is the *possibility* true? Yes. Though for no reason the game character will ever comprehend nor be able to ever observe. It is fundamentally a pointless point that adds no new information to the equation.
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          Logic requires cause and effect. If you break cause and effect, logic means nothing.\n
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          If you keep logic, then again: Paradoxes don’t actually exist. At the end of the day, something is true or it’s not. If you’re dealing with something both true and not true, you are literally and quite directly dealing with something unresolved. We fundamentally do not observe unresolved things.\n
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          It is conceptually, definitionally, not compatible with observed reality. “Observed reality” *literally cannot* reference such things. The question itself is nothing but a thought experiment that far too many people fail to execute.
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        +body: "Oh excellent, sounds like a book I’ll have to pick up so I can put some real substance behind my hunches. Thanks for the recommend."
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          Your analogy is a little broken. God wouldn’t be simply telling you not to. God is literally changing what you want to do, or any other number of “omnipotent” actions that are not possible by someone not omnipotent.\n
          \n
          The concept itself is incompatible with reality that operates like ours. Ours has clear, obvious, demonstrable, and repeatable rules. If those rules change, we *literally cannot* tell.\n
          \n
          Omnipotence is quite literally a pointless point when there is literally NOTHING that demonstrates power beyond the existing rules. There is literally nothing that breaks causality in our reality. Our reality and existence is quite literally incompatible with omnipotence as described in the bible.
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          Yes, but such a universe is still fundamentally incompatible with Christian (and most other) religious teachings.\n
          \n
          There would be absolutely NO point in praying or asking for help in a universe with absolute free will, yet that is exactly what Christians (and many others) teach. It shows up all over in how they treat others and civil policy.\n
          \n
          It’s why they’re so pro punishment: You make a choice to do bad things, you had free will to choose not to, so you must be bad. It’s not *completely* broken logic that they use, but it is absolutely not a self-consistent set of rules.
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          The great irony is, the Prime Directive is to try and control the emotional overreaction of humans and is indeed often ignored by Star Trek for supposedly moral reasons… It is terribly ironic that it makes such a perfect analogy to how God, a supposedly far superior being, is described as acting in the Bible.\n
          \n
          In Star Trek, it’s ignored to help people. In the Bible, it’s ignored because God is having a bad day and needs to lay down some punishment without being labeled a massive hypocrite because daddy do no wrong.
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    Depends entirely on the religious sect. Some believe we live happily ever after in a similar condition but in paradise, some believe the believers get ascended to godhood, literally able to create universes.\n
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    It is an entire spectrum of fantasy, and that’s just the Christian sects.
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            The actual truth if you believe Christian theology. Angels AND God are fully capable of changing things, but free will is sort of like the Prime Directive in Star Trek if you want to be charitable. Uncharitably, we’re God’s play things and only a tiny fraction of the most loyal will see true reward.\n
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            The vast field of ambiguity between those two points is … kinda’ the point in why there has been so much quarrel even between Christian sects.
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          The point about being omnipotent vs free will is… if he does ANYTHING to change our fate, he’s corrupting free will, which is supposed to be our greatest gift.\n
          \n
          The entire concept of an omniprescient and all powerful being is nonsensical as described by Christians. A being LITERALLY CANNOT be all knowing, all kind, and omnipotent. Not if our reality is involved.\n
          \n
          That is why there is so much debate over the nature of god and “good”. As described, it is literally impossible, so it becomes incredibly subjective.\n
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          Morals are subjective, and so is God.
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          That’s only the kind and charitable interpretations. There are ample stories of God directly murderizing people just for disobeying a direct order.\n
          \n
          IMO, it’s all complete codswallop that’s been misconstrued off of the simple recordings of history and an attempt at passing on wisdom about which rulers were good and why.\n
          \n
          After all, all it takes is some narcissistic piece of shit emperor to declare they shall be referred to as “god”, and no other rulers will even be recorded as having a similar honorific … and bam. God as described in the Bible suddenly makes perfect sense being a fickle piece of shit because he’s just a bastardized history of seemingly good rulers dealing with completely different problems in completely different ways.\n
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          Now, I don’t think that’s all of it. There is obviously much spirituality and baby’s first philosophy wrapped up in there, too.
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          I mean… Not really. Paradoxes don’t actually exist. Causality itself would fail to work if literally inconsistent things could be magically made consistent. It’s fundamentally not how the universe works. Literally. What you ask for *could* exist, but not in a universe that behaves like ours. It is fundamentally incompatible with what is observed.\n
          \n
          Yes, completely and fundamentally incompatible. Even if God could start up a billion universes with a billion rules … ours doesn’t work like that. It’s like a game character saying, “yea well the devs could totally make this RPG a FPS game!”\n
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          Is the *possibility* true? Yes. Though for no reason the game character will ever comprehend nor be able to ever observe. It is fundamentally a pointless point that adds no new information to the equation.
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          Logic requires cause and effect. If you break cause and effect, logic means nothing.\n
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          If you keep logic, then again: Paradoxes don’t actually exist. At the end of the day, something is true or it’s not. If you’re dealing with something both true and not true, you are literally and quite directly dealing with something unresolved. We fundamentally do not observe unresolved things.\n
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          It is conceptually, definitionally, not compatible with observed reality. “Observed reality” *literally cannot* reference such things. The question itself is nothing but a thought experiment that far too many people fail to execute.
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          Depends entirely on the religious sect. Some believe we live happily ever after in a similar condition but in paradise, some believe the believers get ascended to godhood, literally able to create universes.\n
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          It is an entire spectrum of fantasy, and that’s just the Christian sects.
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          Your analogy is a little broken. God wouldn’t be simply telling you not to. God is literally changing what you want to do, or any other number of “omnipotent” actions that are not possible by someone not omnipotent.\n
          \n
          The concept itself is incompatible with reality that operates like ours. Ours has clear, obvious, demonstrable, and repeatable rules. If those rules change, we *literally cannot* tell.\n
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          Omnipotence is quite literally a pointless point when there is literally NOTHING that demonstrates power beyond the existing rules. There is literally nothing that breaks causality in our reality. Our reality and existence is quite literally incompatible with omnipotence as described in the bible.
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          Yes, but such a universe is still fundamentally incompatible with Christian (and most other) religious teachings.\n
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          There would be absolutely NO point in praying or asking for help in a universe with absolute free will, yet that is exactly what Christians (and many others) teach. It shows up all over in how they treat others and civil policy.\n
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          It’s why they’re so pro punishment: You make a choice to do bad things, you had free will to choose not to, so you must be bad. It’s not *completely* broken logic that they use, but it is absolutely not a self-consistent set of rules.
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          The great irony is, the Prime Directive is to try and control the emotional overreaction of humans and is indeed often ignored by Star Trek for supposedly moral reasons… It is terribly ironic that it makes such a perfect analogy to how God, a supposedly far superior being, is described as acting in the Bible.\n
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            The actual truth if you believe Christian theology. Angels AND God are fully capable of changing things, but free will is sort of like the Prime Directive in Star Trek if you want to be charitable. Uncharitably, we’re God’s play things and only a tiny fraction of the most loyal will see true reward.\n
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            The vast field of ambiguity between those two points is … kinda’ the point in why there has been so much quarrel even between Christian sects.
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          The point about being omnipotent vs free will is… if he does ANYTHING to change our fate, he’s corrupting free will, which is supposed to be our greatest gift.\n
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          The entire concept of an omniprescient and all powerful being is nonsensical as described by Christians. A being LITERALLY CANNOT be all knowing, all kind, and omnipotent. Not if our reality is involved.\n
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          That is why there is so much debate over the nature of god and “good”. As described, it is literally impossible, so it becomes incredibly subjective.\n
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          Morals are subjective, and so is God.
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          That’s only the kind and charitable interpretations. There are ample stories of God directly murderizing people just for disobeying a direct order.\n
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          IMO, it’s all complete codswallop that’s been misconstrued off of the simple recordings of history and an attempt at passing on wisdom about which rulers were good and why.\n
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          After all, all it takes is some narcissistic piece of shit emperor to declare they shall be referred to as “god”, and no other rulers will even be recorded as having a similar honorific … and bam. God as described in the Bible suddenly makes perfect sense being a fickle piece of shit because he’s just a bastardized history of seemingly good rulers dealing with completely different problems in completely different ways.\n
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          I mean… Not really. Paradoxes don’t actually exist. Causality itself would fail to work if literally inconsistent things could be magically made consistent. It’s fundamentally not how the universe works. Literally. What you ask for *could* exist, but not in a universe that behaves like ours. It is fundamentally incompatible with what is observed.\n
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          Yes, completely and fundamentally incompatible. Even if God could start up a billion universes with a billion rules … ours doesn’t work like that. It’s like a game character saying, “yea well the devs could totally make this RPG a FPS game!”\n
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          Logic requires cause and effect. If you break cause and effect, logic means nothing.\n
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          If you keep logic, then again: Paradoxes don’t actually exist. At the end of the day, something is true or it’s not. If you’re dealing with something both true and not true, you are literally and quite directly dealing with something unresolved. We fundamentally do not observe unresolved things.\n
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          It is conceptually, definitionally, not compatible with observed reality. “Observed reality” *literally cannot* reference such things. The question itself is nothing but a thought experiment that far too many people fail to execute.
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          Depends entirely on the religious sect. Some believe we live happily ever after in a similar condition but in paradise, some believe the believers get ascended to godhood, literally able to create universes.\n
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          It is an entire spectrum of fantasy, and that’s just the Christian sects.
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          Your analogy is a little broken. God wouldn’t be simply telling you not to. God is literally changing what you want to do, or any other number of “omnipotent” actions that are not possible by someone not omnipotent.\n
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          The concept itself is incompatible with reality that operates like ours. Ours has clear, obvious, demonstrable, and repeatable rules. If those rules change, we *literally cannot* tell.\n
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          Omnipotence is quite literally a pointless point when there is literally NOTHING that demonstrates power beyond the existing rules. There is literally nothing that breaks causality in our reality. Our reality and existence is quite literally incompatible with omnipotence as described in the bible.
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          Yes, but such a universe is still fundamentally incompatible with Christian (and most other) religious teachings.\n
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          It’s why they’re so pro punishment: You make a choice to do bad things, you had free will to choose not to, so you must be bad. It’s not *completely* broken logic that they use, but it is absolutely not a self-consistent set of rules.
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          The great irony is, the Prime Directive is to try and control the emotional overreaction of humans and is indeed often ignored by Star Trek for supposedly moral reasons… It is terribly ironic that it makes such a perfect analogy to how God, a supposedly far superior being, is described as acting in the Bible.\n
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          In Star Trek, it’s ignored to help people. In the Bible, it’s ignored because God is having a bad day and needs to lay down some punishment without being labeled a massive hypocrite because daddy do no wrong.
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            The actual truth if you believe Christian theology. Angels AND God are fully capable of changing things, but free will is sort of like the Prime Directive in Star Trek if you want to be charitable. Uncharitably, we’re God’s play things and only a tiny fraction of the most loyal will see true reward.\n
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            The vast field of ambiguity between those two points is … kinda’ the point in why there has been so much quarrel even between Christian sects.
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          The point about being omnipotent vs free will is… if he does ANYTHING to change our fate, he’s corrupting free will, which is supposed to be our greatest gift.\n
          \n
          The entire concept of an omniprescient and all powerful being is nonsensical as described by Christians. A being LITERALLY CANNOT be all knowing, all kind, and omnipotent. Not if our reality is involved.\n
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          That is why there is so much debate over the nature of god and “good”. As described, it is literally impossible, so it becomes incredibly subjective.\n
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          Morals are subjective, and so is God.
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          That’s only the kind and charitable interpretations. There are ample stories of God directly murderizing people just for disobeying a direct order.\n
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          IMO, it’s all complete codswallop that’s been misconstrued off of the simple recordings of history and an attempt at passing on wisdom about which rulers were good and why.\n
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          After all, all it takes is some narcissistic piece of shit emperor to declare they shall be referred to as “god”, and no other rulers will even be recorded as having a similar honorific … and bam. God as described in the Bible suddenly makes perfect sense being a fickle piece of shit because he’s just a bastardized history of seemingly good rulers dealing with completely different problems in completely different ways.\n
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          I mean… Not really. Paradoxes don’t actually exist. Causality itself would fail to work if literally inconsistent things could be magically made consistent. It’s fundamentally not how the universe works. Literally. What you ask for *could* exist, but not in a universe that behaves like ours. It is fundamentally incompatible with what is observed.\n
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          Logic requires cause and effect. If you break cause and effect, logic means nothing.\n
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          Depends entirely on the religious sect. Some believe we live happily ever after in a similar condition but in paradise, some believe the believers get ascended to godhood, literally able to create universes.\n
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          It is an entire spectrum of fantasy, and that’s just the Christian sects.
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          Your analogy is a little broken. God wouldn’t be simply telling you not to. God is literally changing what you want to do, or any other number of “omnipotent” actions that are not possible by someone not omnipotent.\n
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          The concept itself is incompatible with reality that operates like ours. Ours has clear, obvious, demonstrable, and repeatable rules. If those rules change, we *literally cannot* tell.\n
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          Omnipotence is quite literally a pointless point when there is literally NOTHING that demonstrates power beyond the existing rules. There is literally nothing that breaks causality in our reality. Our reality and existence is quite literally incompatible with omnipotence as described in the bible.
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          Yes, but such a universe is still fundamentally incompatible with Christian (and most other) religious teachings.\n
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          The great irony is, the Prime Directive is to try and control the emotional overreaction of humans and is indeed often ignored by Star Trek for supposedly moral reasons… It is terribly ironic that it makes such a perfect analogy to how God, a supposedly far superior being, is described as acting in the Bible.\n
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          In Star Trek, it’s ignored to help people. In the Bible, it’s ignored because God is having a bad day and needs to lay down some punishment without being labeled a massive hypocrite because daddy do no wrong.
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            The actual truth if you believe Christian theology. Angels AND God are fully capable of changing things, but free will is sort of like the Prime Directive in Star Trek if you want to be charitable. Uncharitably, we’re God’s play things and only a tiny fraction of the most loyal will see true reward.\n
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          The point about being omnipotent vs free will is… if he does ANYTHING to change our fate, he’s corrupting free will, which is supposed to be our greatest gift.\n
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          That’s only the kind and charitable interpretations. There are ample stories of God directly murderizing people just for disobeying a direct order.\n
          \n
          IMO, it’s all complete codswallop that’s been misconstrued off of the simple recordings of history and an attempt at passing on wisdom about which rulers were good and why.\n
          \n
          After all, all it takes is some narcissistic piece of shit emperor to declare they shall be referred to as “god”, and no other rulers will even be recorded as having a similar honorific … and bam. God as described in the Bible suddenly makes perfect sense being a fickle piece of shit because he’s just a bastardized history of seemingly good rulers dealing with completely different problems in completely different ways.\n
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          Now, I don’t think that’s all of it. There is obviously much spirituality and baby’s first philosophy wrapped up in there, too.
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          I mean… Not really. Paradoxes don’t actually exist. Causality itself would fail to work if literally inconsistent things could be magically made consistent. It’s fundamentally not how the universe works. Literally. What you ask for *could* exist, but not in a universe that behaves like ours. It is fundamentally incompatible with what is observed.\n
          \n
          Yes, completely and fundamentally incompatible. Even if God could start up a billion universes with a billion rules … ours doesn’t work like that. It’s like a game character saying, “yea well the devs could totally make this RPG a FPS game!”\n
          \n
          Is the *possibility* true? Yes. Though for no reason the game character will ever comprehend nor be able to ever observe. It is fundamentally a pointless point that adds no new information to the equation.
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          Logic requires cause and effect. If you break cause and effect, logic means nothing.\n
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          If you keep logic, then again: Paradoxes don’t actually exist. At the end of the day, something is true or it’s not. If you’re dealing with something both true and not true, you are literally and quite directly dealing with something unresolved. We fundamentally do not observe unresolved things.\n
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          It is conceptually, definitionally, not compatible with observed reality. “Observed reality” *literally cannot* reference such things. The question itself is nothing but a thought experiment that far too many people fail to execute.
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          Depends entirely on the religious sect. Some believe we live happily ever after in a similar condition but in paradise, some believe the believers get ascended to godhood, literally able to create universes.\n
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          It is an entire spectrum of fantasy, and that’s just the Christian sects.
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        +body: "Oh excellent, sounds like a book I’ll have to pick up so I can put some real substance behind my hunches. Thanks for the recommend."
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          Yes, but such a universe is still fundamentally incompatible with Christian (and most other) religious teachings.\n
          \n
          There would be absolutely NO point in praying or asking for help in a universe with absolute free will, yet that is exactly what Christians (and many others) teach. It shows up all over in how they treat others and civil policy.\n
          \n
          It’s why they’re so pro punishment: You make a choice to do bad things, you had free will to choose not to, so you must be bad. It’s not *completely* broken logic that they use, but it is absolutely not a self-consistent set of rules.
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          The great irony is, the Prime Directive is to try and control the emotional overreaction of humans and is indeed often ignored by Star Trek for supposedly moral reasons… It is terribly ironic that it makes such a perfect analogy to how God, a supposedly far superior being, is described as acting in the Bible.\n
          \n
          In Star Trek, it’s ignored to help people. In the Bible, it’s ignored because God is having a bad day and needs to lay down some punishment without being labeled a massive hypocrite because daddy do no wrong.
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    Your analogy is a little broken. God wouldn’t be simply telling you not to. God is literally changing what you want to do, or any other number of “omnipotent” actions that are not possible by someone not omnipotent.\n
    \n
    The concept itself is incompatible with reality that operates like ours. Ours has clear, obvious, demonstrable, and repeatable rules. If those rules change, we *literally cannot* tell.\n
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    Omnipotence is quite literally a pointless point when there is literally NOTHING that demonstrates power beyond the existing rules. There is literally nothing that breaks causality in our reality. Our reality and existence is quite literally incompatible with omnipotence as described in the bible.
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            The actual truth if you believe Christian theology. Angels AND God are fully capable of changing things, but free will is sort of like the Prime Directive in Star Trek if you want to be charitable. Uncharitably, we’re God’s play things and only a tiny fraction of the most loyal will see true reward.\n
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            The vast field of ambiguity between those two points is … kinda’ the point in why there has been so much quarrel even between Christian sects.
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          The point about being omnipotent vs free will is… if he does ANYTHING to change our fate, he’s corrupting free will, which is supposed to be our greatest gift.\n
          \n
          The entire concept of an omniprescient and all powerful being is nonsensical as described by Christians. A being LITERALLY CANNOT be all knowing, all kind, and omnipotent. Not if our reality is involved.\n
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          That is why there is so much debate over the nature of god and “good”. As described, it is literally impossible, so it becomes incredibly subjective.\n
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          Morals are subjective, and so is God.
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          That’s only the kind and charitable interpretations. There are ample stories of God directly murderizing people just for disobeying a direct order.\n
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          IMO, it’s all complete codswallop that’s been misconstrued off of the simple recordings of history and an attempt at passing on wisdom about which rulers were good and why.\n
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          After all, all it takes is some narcissistic piece of shit emperor to declare they shall be referred to as “god”, and no other rulers will even be recorded as having a similar honorific … and bam. God as described in the Bible suddenly makes perfect sense being a fickle piece of shit because he’s just a bastardized history of seemingly good rulers dealing with completely different problems in completely different ways.\n
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          Now, I don’t think that’s all of it. There is obviously much spirituality and baby’s first philosophy wrapped up in there, too.
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          I mean… Not really. Paradoxes don’t actually exist. Causality itself would fail to work if literally inconsistent things could be magically made consistent. It’s fundamentally not how the universe works. Literally. What you ask for *could* exist, but not in a universe that behaves like ours. It is fundamentally incompatible with what is observed.\n
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          Yes, completely and fundamentally incompatible. Even if God could start up a billion universes with a billion rules … ours doesn’t work like that. It’s like a game character saying, “yea well the devs could totally make this RPG a FPS game!”\n
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          Is the *possibility* true? Yes. Though for no reason the game character will ever comprehend nor be able to ever observe. It is fundamentally a pointless point that adds no new information to the equation.
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          Logic requires cause and effect. If you break cause and effect, logic means nothing.\n
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          If you keep logic, then again: Paradoxes don’t actually exist. At the end of the day, something is true or it’s not. If you’re dealing with something both true and not true, you are literally and quite directly dealing with something unresolved. We fundamentally do not observe unresolved things.\n
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          It is conceptually, definitionally, not compatible with observed reality. “Observed reality” *literally cannot* reference such things. The question itself is nothing but a thought experiment that far too many people fail to execute.
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          Depends entirely on the religious sect. Some believe we live happily ever after in a similar condition but in paradise, some believe the believers get ascended to godhood, literally able to create universes.\n
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          It is an entire spectrum of fantasy, and that’s just the Christian sects.
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        +body: "Oh excellent, sounds like a book I’ll have to pick up so I can put some real substance behind my hunches. Thanks for the recommend."
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          Yes, but such a universe is still fundamentally incompatible with Christian (and most other) religious teachings.\n
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          There would be absolutely NO point in praying or asking for help in a universe with absolute free will, yet that is exactly what Christians (and many others) teach. It shows up all over in how they treat others and civil policy.\n
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          It’s why they’re so pro punishment: You make a choice to do bad things, you had free will to choose not to, so you must be bad. It’s not *completely* broken logic that they use, but it is absolutely not a self-consistent set of rules.
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          The great irony is, the Prime Directive is to try and control the emotional overreaction of humans and is indeed often ignored by Star Trek for supposedly moral reasons… It is terribly ironic that it makes such a perfect analogy to how God, a supposedly far superior being, is described as acting in the Bible.\n
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          In Star Trek, it’s ignored to help people. In the Bible, it’s ignored because God is having a bad day and needs to lay down some punishment without being labeled a massive hypocrite because daddy do no wrong.
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    Your analogy is a little broken. God wouldn’t be simply telling you not to. God is literally changing what you want to do, or any other number of “omnipotent” actions that are not possible by someone not omnipotent.\n
    \n
    The concept itself is incompatible with reality that operates like ours. Ours has clear, obvious, demonstrable, and repeatable rules. If those rules change, we *literally cannot* tell.\n
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    Omnipotence is quite literally a pointless point when there is literally NOTHING that demonstrates power beyond the existing rules. There is literally nothing that breaks causality in our reality. Our reality and existence is quite literally incompatible with omnipotence as described in the bible.
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            The actual truth if you believe Christian theology. Angels AND God are fully capable of changing things, but free will is sort of like the Prime Directive in Star Trek if you want to be charitable. Uncharitably, we’re God’s play things and only a tiny fraction of the most loyal will see true reward.\n
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            The vast field of ambiguity between those two points is … kinda’ the point in why there has been so much quarrel even between Christian sects.
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          The point about being omnipotent vs free will is… if he does ANYTHING to change our fate, he’s corrupting free will, which is supposed to be our greatest gift.\n
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          The entire concept of an omniprescient and all powerful being is nonsensical as described by Christians. A being LITERALLY CANNOT be all knowing, all kind, and omnipotent. Not if our reality is involved.\n
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          That is why there is so much debate over the nature of god and “good”. As described, it is literally impossible, so it becomes incredibly subjective.\n
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          Morals are subjective, and so is God.
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          That’s only the kind and charitable interpretations. There are ample stories of God directly murderizing people just for disobeying a direct order.\n
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          After all, all it takes is some narcissistic piece of shit emperor to declare they shall be referred to as “god”, and no other rulers will even be recorded as having a similar honorific … and bam. God as described in the Bible suddenly makes perfect sense being a fickle piece of shit because he’s just a bastardized history of seemingly good rulers dealing with completely different problems in completely different ways.\n
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          I mean… Not really. Paradoxes don’t actually exist. Causality itself would fail to work if literally inconsistent things could be magically made consistent. It’s fundamentally not how the universe works. Literally. What you ask for *could* exist, but not in a universe that behaves like ours. It is fundamentally incompatible with what is observed.\n
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          Yes, completely and fundamentally incompatible. Even if God could start up a billion universes with a billion rules … ours doesn’t work like that. It’s like a game character saying, “yea well the devs could totally make this RPG a FPS game!”\n
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          Logic requires cause and effect. If you break cause and effect, logic means nothing.\n
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          If you keep logic, then again: Paradoxes don’t actually exist. At the end of the day, something is true or it’s not. If you’re dealing with something both true and not true, you are literally and quite directly dealing with something unresolved. We fundamentally do not observe unresolved things.\n
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          Depends entirely on the religious sect. Some believe we live happily ever after in a similar condition but in paradise, some believe the believers get ascended to godhood, literally able to create universes.\n
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          It is an entire spectrum of fantasy, and that’s just the Christian sects.
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        +body: "Oh excellent, sounds like a book I’ll have to pick up so I can put some real substance behind my hunches. Thanks for the recommend."
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          Yes, but such a universe is still fundamentally incompatible with Christian (and most other) religious teachings.\n
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          There would be absolutely NO point in praying or asking for help in a universe with absolute free will, yet that is exactly what Christians (and many others) teach. It shows up all over in how they treat others and civil policy.\n
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          It’s why they’re so pro punishment: You make a choice to do bad things, you had free will to choose not to, so you must be bad. It’s not *completely* broken logic that they use, but it is absolutely not a self-consistent set of rules.
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          The great irony is, the Prime Directive is to try and control the emotional overreaction of humans and is indeed often ignored by Star Trek for supposedly moral reasons… It is terribly ironic that it makes such a perfect analogy to how God, a supposedly far superior being, is described as acting in the Bible.\n
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          In Star Trek, it’s ignored to help people. In the Bible, it’s ignored because God is having a bad day and needs to lay down some punishment without being labeled a massive hypocrite because daddy do no wrong.
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    Your analogy is a little broken. God wouldn’t be simply telling you not to. God is literally changing what you want to do, or any other number of “omnipotent” actions that are not possible by someone not omnipotent.\n
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    The concept itself is incompatible with reality that operates like ours. Ours has clear, obvious, demonstrable, and repeatable rules. If those rules change, we *literally cannot* tell.\n
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    Omnipotence is quite literally a pointless point when there is literally NOTHING that demonstrates power beyond the existing rules. There is literally nothing that breaks causality in our reality. Our reality and existence is quite literally incompatible with omnipotence as described in the bible.
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            The actual truth if you believe Christian theology. Angels AND God are fully capable of changing things, but free will is sort of like the Prime Directive in Star Trek if you want to be charitable. Uncharitably, we’re God’s play things and only a tiny fraction of the most loyal will see true reward.\n
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          The point about being omnipotent vs free will is… if he does ANYTHING to change our fate, he’s corrupting free will, which is supposed to be our greatest gift.\n
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          The entire concept of an omniprescient and all powerful being is nonsensical as described by Christians. A being LITERALLY CANNOT be all knowing, all kind, and omnipotent. Not if our reality is involved.\n
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          That is why there is so much debate over the nature of god and “good”. As described, it is literally impossible, so it becomes incredibly subjective.\n
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          Morals are subjective, and so is God.
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          That’s only the kind and charitable interpretations. There are ample stories of God directly murderizing people just for disobeying a direct order.\n
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          I mean… Not really. Paradoxes don’t actually exist. Causality itself would fail to work if literally inconsistent things could be magically made consistent. It’s fundamentally not how the universe works. Literally. What you ask for *could* exist, but not in a universe that behaves like ours. It is fundamentally incompatible with what is observed.\n
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          Logic requires cause and effect. If you break cause and effect, logic means nothing.\n
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          If you keep logic, then again: Paradoxes don’t actually exist. At the end of the day, something is true or it’s not. If you’re dealing with something both true and not true, you are literally and quite directly dealing with something unresolved. We fundamentally do not observe unresolved things.\n
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          It is conceptually, definitionally, not compatible with observed reality. “Observed reality” *literally cannot* reference such things. The question itself is nothing but a thought experiment that far too many people fail to execute.
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          Depends entirely on the religious sect. Some believe we live happily ever after in a similar condition but in paradise, some believe the believers get ascended to godhood, literally able to create universes.\n
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          It is an entire spectrum of fantasy, and that’s just the Christian sects.
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        +body: "Oh excellent, sounds like a book I’ll have to pick up so I can put some real substance behind my hunches. Thanks for the recommend."
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          Your analogy is a little broken. God wouldn’t be simply telling you not to. God is literally changing what you want to do, or any other number of “omnipotent” actions that are not possible by someone not omnipotent.\n
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          The concept itself is incompatible with reality that operates like ours. Ours has clear, obvious, demonstrable, and repeatable rules. If those rules change, we *literally cannot* tell.\n
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          Omnipotence is quite literally a pointless point when there is literally NOTHING that demonstrates power beyond the existing rules. There is literally nothing that breaks causality in our reality. Our reality and existence is quite literally incompatible with omnipotence as described in the bible.
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          The great irony is, the Prime Directive is to try and control the emotional overreaction of humans and is indeed often ignored by Star Trek for supposedly moral reasons… It is terribly ironic that it makes such a perfect analogy to how God, a supposedly far superior being, is described as acting in the Bible.\n
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          In Star Trek, it’s ignored to help people. In the Bible, it’s ignored because God is having a bad day and needs to lay down some punishment without being labeled a massive hypocrite because daddy do no wrong.
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    Yes, but such a universe is still fundamentally incompatible with Christian (and most other) religious teachings.\n
    \n
    There would be absolutely NO point in praying or asking for help in a universe with absolute free will, yet that is exactly what Christians (and many others) teach. It shows up all over in how they treat others and civil policy.\n
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    It’s why they’re so pro punishment: You make a choice to do bad things, you had free will to choose not to, so you must be bad. It’s not *completely* broken logic that they use, but it is absolutely not a self-consistent set of rules.
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            The actual truth if you believe Christian theology. Angels AND God are fully capable of changing things, but free will is sort of like the Prime Directive in Star Trek if you want to be charitable. Uncharitably, we’re God’s play things and only a tiny fraction of the most loyal will see true reward.\n
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          The point about being omnipotent vs free will is… if he does ANYTHING to change our fate, he’s corrupting free will, which is supposed to be our greatest gift.\n
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          The entire concept of an omniprescient and all powerful being is nonsensical as described by Christians. A being LITERALLY CANNOT be all knowing, all kind, and omnipotent. Not if our reality is involved.\n
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          That is why there is so much debate over the nature of god and “good”. As described, it is literally impossible, so it becomes incredibly subjective.\n
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          Morals are subjective, and so is God.
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          That’s only the kind and charitable interpretations. There are ample stories of God directly murderizing people just for disobeying a direct order.\n
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          IMO, it’s all complete codswallop that’s been misconstrued off of the simple recordings of history and an attempt at passing on wisdom about which rulers were good and why.\n
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          After all, all it takes is some narcissistic piece of shit emperor to declare they shall be referred to as “god”, and no other rulers will even be recorded as having a similar honorific … and bam. God as described in the Bible suddenly makes perfect sense being a fickle piece of shit because he’s just a bastardized history of seemingly good rulers dealing with completely different problems in completely different ways.\n
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          Now, I don’t think that’s all of it. There is obviously much spirituality and baby’s first philosophy wrapped up in there, too.
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          I mean… Not really. Paradoxes don’t actually exist. Causality itself would fail to work if literally inconsistent things could be magically made consistent. It’s fundamentally not how the universe works. Literally. What you ask for *could* exist, but not in a universe that behaves like ours. It is fundamentally incompatible with what is observed.\n
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          Yes, completely and fundamentally incompatible. Even if God could start up a billion universes with a billion rules … ours doesn’t work like that. It’s like a game character saying, “yea well the devs could totally make this RPG a FPS game!”\n
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          Logic requires cause and effect. If you break cause and effect, logic means nothing.\n
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          Depends entirely on the religious sect. Some believe we live happily ever after in a similar condition but in paradise, some believe the believers get ascended to godhood, literally able to create universes.\n
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          It is an entire spectrum of fantasy, and that’s just the Christian sects.
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        +body: "Oh excellent, sounds like a book I’ll have to pick up so I can put some real substance behind my hunches. Thanks for the recommend."
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          Your analogy is a little broken. God wouldn’t be simply telling you not to. God is literally changing what you want to do, or any other number of “omnipotent” actions that are not possible by someone not omnipotent.\n
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          The concept itself is incompatible with reality that operates like ours. Ours has clear, obvious, demonstrable, and repeatable rules. If those rules change, we *literally cannot* tell.\n
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          Omnipotence is quite literally a pointless point when there is literally NOTHING that demonstrates power beyond the existing rules. There is literally nothing that breaks causality in our reality. Our reality and existence is quite literally incompatible with omnipotence as described in the bible.
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          The great irony is, the Prime Directive is to try and control the emotional overreaction of humans and is indeed often ignored by Star Trek for supposedly moral reasons… It is terribly ironic that it makes such a perfect analogy to how God, a supposedly far superior being, is described as acting in the Bible.\n
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          In Star Trek, it’s ignored to help people. In the Bible, it’s ignored because God is having a bad day and needs to lay down some punishment without being labeled a massive hypocrite because daddy do no wrong.
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    Yes, but such a universe is still fundamentally incompatible with Christian (and most other) religious teachings.\n
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    There would be absolutely NO point in praying or asking for help in a universe with absolute free will, yet that is exactly what Christians (and many others) teach. It shows up all over in how they treat others and civil policy.\n
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    It’s why they’re so pro punishment: You make a choice to do bad things, you had free will to choose not to, so you must be bad. It’s not *completely* broken logic that they use, but it is absolutely not a self-consistent set of rules.
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            The actual truth if you believe Christian theology. Angels AND God are fully capable of changing things, but free will is sort of like the Prime Directive in Star Trek if you want to be charitable. Uncharitably, we’re God’s play things and only a tiny fraction of the most loyal will see true reward.\n
            \n
            The vast field of ambiguity between those two points is … kinda’ the point in why there has been so much quarrel even between Christian sects.
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          The point about being omnipotent vs free will is… if he does ANYTHING to change our fate, he’s corrupting free will, which is supposed to be our greatest gift.\n
          \n
          The entire concept of an omniprescient and all powerful being is nonsensical as described by Christians. A being LITERALLY CANNOT be all knowing, all kind, and omnipotent. Not if our reality is involved.\n
          \n
          That is why there is so much debate over the nature of god and “good”. As described, it is literally impossible, so it becomes incredibly subjective.\n
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          Morals are subjective, and so is God.
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          That’s only the kind and charitable interpretations. There are ample stories of God directly murderizing people just for disobeying a direct order.\n
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          IMO, it’s all complete codswallop that’s been misconstrued off of the simple recordings of history and an attempt at passing on wisdom about which rulers were good and why.\n
          \n
          After all, all it takes is some narcissistic piece of shit emperor to declare they shall be referred to as “god”, and no other rulers will even be recorded as having a similar honorific … and bam. God as described in the Bible suddenly makes perfect sense being a fickle piece of shit because he’s just a bastardized history of seemingly good rulers dealing with completely different problems in completely different ways.\n
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          Now, I don’t think that’s all of it. There is obviously much spirituality and baby’s first philosophy wrapped up in there, too.
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          I mean… Not really. Paradoxes don’t actually exist. Causality itself would fail to work if literally inconsistent things could be magically made consistent. It’s fundamentally not how the universe works. Literally. What you ask for *could* exist, but not in a universe that behaves like ours. It is fundamentally incompatible with what is observed.\n
          \n
          Yes, completely and fundamentally incompatible. Even if God could start up a billion universes with a billion rules … ours doesn’t work like that. It’s like a game character saying, “yea well the devs could totally make this RPG a FPS game!”\n
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          Is the *possibility* true? Yes. Though for no reason the game character will ever comprehend nor be able to ever observe. It is fundamentally a pointless point that adds no new information to the equation.
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          Logic requires cause and effect. If you break cause and effect, logic means nothing.\n
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          If you keep logic, then again: Paradoxes don’t actually exist. At the end of the day, something is true or it’s not. If you’re dealing with something both true and not true, you are literally and quite directly dealing with something unresolved. We fundamentally do not observe unresolved things.\n
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          It is conceptually, definitionally, not compatible with observed reality. “Observed reality” *literally cannot* reference such things. The question itself is nothing but a thought experiment that far too many people fail to execute.
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          Depends entirely on the religious sect. Some believe we live happily ever after in a similar condition but in paradise, some believe the believers get ascended to godhood, literally able to create universes.\n
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          It is an entire spectrum of fantasy, and that’s just the Christian sects.
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        +body: "Oh excellent, sounds like a book I’ll have to pick up so I can put some real substance behind my hunches. Thanks for the recommend."
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          Your analogy is a little broken. God wouldn’t be simply telling you not to. God is literally changing what you want to do, or any other number of “omnipotent” actions that are not possible by someone not omnipotent.\n
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          The concept itself is incompatible with reality that operates like ours. Ours has clear, obvious, demonstrable, and repeatable rules. If those rules change, we *literally cannot* tell.\n
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          Omnipotence is quite literally a pointless point when there is literally NOTHING that demonstrates power beyond the existing rules. There is literally nothing that breaks causality in our reality. Our reality and existence is quite literally incompatible with omnipotence as described in the bible.
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          The great irony is, the Prime Directive is to try and control the emotional overreaction of humans and is indeed often ignored by Star Trek for supposedly moral reasons… It is terribly ironic that it makes such a perfect analogy to how God, a supposedly far superior being, is described as acting in the Bible.\n
          \n
          In Star Trek, it’s ignored to help people. In the Bible, it’s ignored because God is having a bad day and needs to lay down some punishment without being labeled a massive hypocrite because daddy do no wrong.
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    Yes, but such a universe is still fundamentally incompatible with Christian (and most other) religious teachings.\n
    \n
    There would be absolutely NO point in praying or asking for help in a universe with absolute free will, yet that is exactly what Christians (and many others) teach. It shows up all over in how they treat others and civil policy.\n
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    It’s why they’re so pro punishment: You make a choice to do bad things, you had free will to choose not to, so you must be bad. It’s not *completely* broken logic that they use, but it is absolutely not a self-consistent set of rules.
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            The actual truth if you believe Christian theology. Angels AND God are fully capable of changing things, but free will is sort of like the Prime Directive in Star Trek if you want to be charitable. Uncharitably, we’re God’s play things and only a tiny fraction of the most loyal will see true reward.\n
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          The point about being omnipotent vs free will is… if he does ANYTHING to change our fate, he’s corrupting free will, which is supposed to be our greatest gift.\n
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          The entire concept of an omniprescient and all powerful being is nonsensical as described by Christians. A being LITERALLY CANNOT be all knowing, all kind, and omnipotent. Not if our reality is involved.\n
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          That is why there is so much debate over the nature of god and “good”. As described, it is literally impossible, so it becomes incredibly subjective.\n
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          Morals are subjective, and so is God.
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          That’s only the kind and charitable interpretations. There are ample stories of God directly murderizing people just for disobeying a direct order.\n
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          IMO, it’s all complete codswallop that’s been misconstrued off of the simple recordings of history and an attempt at passing on wisdom about which rulers were good and why.\n
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          After all, all it takes is some narcissistic piece of shit emperor to declare they shall be referred to as “god”, and no other rulers will even be recorded as having a similar honorific … and bam. God as described in the Bible suddenly makes perfect sense being a fickle piece of shit because he’s just a bastardized history of seemingly good rulers dealing with completely different problems in completely different ways.\n
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          I mean… Not really. Paradoxes don’t actually exist. Causality itself would fail to work if literally inconsistent things could be magically made consistent. It’s fundamentally not how the universe works. Literally. What you ask for *could* exist, but not in a universe that behaves like ours. It is fundamentally incompatible with what is observed.\n
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          Yes, completely and fundamentally incompatible. Even if God could start up a billion universes with a billion rules … ours doesn’t work like that. It’s like a game character saying, “yea well the devs could totally make this RPG a FPS game!”\n
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          Logic requires cause and effect. If you break cause and effect, logic means nothing.\n
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          If you keep logic, then again: Paradoxes don’t actually exist. At the end of the day, something is true or it’s not. If you’re dealing with something both true and not true, you are literally and quite directly dealing with something unresolved. We fundamentally do not observe unresolved things.\n
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          It is conceptually, definitionally, not compatible with observed reality. “Observed reality” *literally cannot* reference such things. The question itself is nothing but a thought experiment that far too many people fail to execute.
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          Depends entirely on the religious sect. Some believe we live happily ever after in a similar condition but in paradise, some believe the believers get ascended to godhood, literally able to create universes.\n
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          It is an entire spectrum of fantasy, and that’s just the Christian sects.
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        +body: "Oh excellent, sounds like a book I’ll have to pick up so I can put some real substance behind my hunches. Thanks for the recommend."
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          Your analogy is a little broken. God wouldn’t be simply telling you not to. God is literally changing what you want to do, or any other number of “omnipotent” actions that are not possible by someone not omnipotent.\n
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          The concept itself is incompatible with reality that operates like ours. Ours has clear, obvious, demonstrable, and repeatable rules. If those rules change, we *literally cannot* tell.\n
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          Omnipotence is quite literally a pointless point when there is literally NOTHING that demonstrates power beyond the existing rules. There is literally nothing that breaks causality in our reality. Our reality and existence is quite literally incompatible with omnipotence as described in the bible.
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          Yes, but such a universe is still fundamentally incompatible with Christian (and most other) religious teachings.\n
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          There would be absolutely NO point in praying or asking for help in a universe with absolute free will, yet that is exactly what Christians (and many others) teach. It shows up all over in how they treat others and civil policy.\n
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          It’s why they’re so pro punishment: You make a choice to do bad things, you had free will to choose not to, so you must be bad. It’s not *completely* broken logic that they use, but it is absolutely not a self-consistent set of rules.
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    The great irony is, the Prime Directive is to try and control the emotional overreaction of humans and is indeed often ignored by Star Trek for supposedly moral reasons… It is terribly ironic that it makes such a perfect analogy to how God, a supposedly far superior being, is described as acting in the Bible.\n
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    In Star Trek, it’s ignored to help people. In the Bible, it’s ignored because God is having a bad day and needs to lay down some punishment without being labeled a massive hypocrite because daddy do no wrong.
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            The actual truth if you believe Christian theology. Angels AND God are fully capable of changing things, but free will is sort of like the Prime Directive in Star Trek if you want to be charitable. Uncharitably, we’re God’s play things and only a tiny fraction of the most loyal will see true reward.\n
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            The vast field of ambiguity between those two points is … kinda’ the point in why there has been so much quarrel even between Christian sects.
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          The point about being omnipotent vs free will is… if he does ANYTHING to change our fate, he’s corrupting free will, which is supposed to be our greatest gift.\n
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          The entire concept of an omniprescient and all powerful being is nonsensical as described by Christians. A being LITERALLY CANNOT be all knowing, all kind, and omnipotent. Not if our reality is involved.\n
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          That is why there is so much debate over the nature of god and “good”. As described, it is literally impossible, so it becomes incredibly subjective.\n
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          Morals are subjective, and so is God.
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          That’s only the kind and charitable interpretations. There are ample stories of God directly murderizing people just for disobeying a direct order.\n
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          IMO, it’s all complete codswallop that’s been misconstrued off of the simple recordings of history and an attempt at passing on wisdom about which rulers were good and why.\n
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          After all, all it takes is some narcissistic piece of shit emperor to declare they shall be referred to as “god”, and no other rulers will even be recorded as having a similar honorific … and bam. God as described in the Bible suddenly makes perfect sense being a fickle piece of shit because he’s just a bastardized history of seemingly good rulers dealing with completely different problems in completely different ways.\n
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          I mean… Not really. Paradoxes don’t actually exist. Causality itself would fail to work if literally inconsistent things could be magically made consistent. It’s fundamentally not how the universe works. Literally. What you ask for *could* exist, but not in a universe that behaves like ours. It is fundamentally incompatible with what is observed.\n
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          Logic requires cause and effect. If you break cause and effect, logic means nothing.\n
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          If you keep logic, then again: Paradoxes don’t actually exist. At the end of the day, something is true or it’s not. If you’re dealing with something both true and not true, you are literally and quite directly dealing with something unresolved. We fundamentally do not observe unresolved things.\n
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          Depends entirely on the religious sect. Some believe we live happily ever after in a similar condition but in paradise, some believe the believers get ascended to godhood, literally able to create universes.\n
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        +body: "Oh excellent, sounds like a book I’ll have to pick up so I can put some real substance behind my hunches. Thanks for the recommend."
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          Your analogy is a little broken. God wouldn’t be simply telling you not to. God is literally changing what you want to do, or any other number of “omnipotent” actions that are not possible by someone not omnipotent.\n
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          The concept itself is incompatible with reality that operates like ours. Ours has clear, obvious, demonstrable, and repeatable rules. If those rules change, we *literally cannot* tell.\n
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          Omnipotence is quite literally a pointless point when there is literally NOTHING that demonstrates power beyond the existing rules. There is literally nothing that breaks causality in our reality. Our reality and existence is quite literally incompatible with omnipotence as described in the bible.
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          Yes, but such a universe is still fundamentally incompatible with Christian (and most other) religious teachings.\n
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    The great irony is, the Prime Directive is to try and control the emotional overreaction of humans and is indeed often ignored by Star Trek for supposedly moral reasons… It is terribly ironic that it makes such a perfect analogy to how God, a supposedly far superior being, is described as acting in the Bible.\n
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    In Star Trek, it’s ignored to help people. In the Bible, it’s ignored because God is having a bad day and needs to lay down some punishment without being labeled a massive hypocrite because daddy do no wrong.
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            The actual truth if you believe Christian theology. Angels AND God are fully capable of changing things, but free will is sort of like the Prime Directive in Star Trek if you want to be charitable. Uncharitably, we’re God’s play things and only a tiny fraction of the most loyal will see true reward.\n
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          The point about being omnipotent vs free will is… if he does ANYTHING to change our fate, he’s corrupting free will, which is supposed to be our greatest gift.\n
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          The entire concept of an omniprescient and all powerful being is nonsensical as described by Christians. A being LITERALLY CANNOT be all knowing, all kind, and omnipotent. Not if our reality is involved.\n
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          That’s only the kind and charitable interpretations. There are ample stories of God directly murderizing people just for disobeying a direct order.\n
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          I mean… Not really. Paradoxes don’t actually exist. Causality itself would fail to work if literally inconsistent things could be magically made consistent. It’s fundamentally not how the universe works. Literally. What you ask for *could* exist, but not in a universe that behaves like ours. It is fundamentally incompatible with what is observed.\n
          \n
          Yes, completely and fundamentally incompatible. Even if God could start up a billion universes with a billion rules … ours doesn’t work like that. It’s like a game character saying, “yea well the devs could totally make this RPG a FPS game!”\n
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          Is the *possibility* true? Yes. Though for no reason the game character will ever comprehend nor be able to ever observe. It is fundamentally a pointless point that adds no new information to the equation.
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          Logic requires cause and effect. If you break cause and effect, logic means nothing.\n
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          If you keep logic, then again: Paradoxes don’t actually exist. At the end of the day, something is true or it’s not. If you’re dealing with something both true and not true, you are literally and quite directly dealing with something unresolved. We fundamentally do not observe unresolved things.\n
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          It is conceptually, definitionally, not compatible with observed reality. “Observed reality” *literally cannot* reference such things. The question itself is nothing but a thought experiment that far too many people fail to execute.
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          Depends entirely on the religious sect. Some believe we live happily ever after in a similar condition but in paradise, some believe the believers get ascended to godhood, literally able to create universes.\n
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          It is an entire spectrum of fantasy, and that’s just the Christian sects.
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        +body: "Oh excellent, sounds like a book I’ll have to pick up so I can put some real substance behind my hunches. Thanks for the recommend."
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          Your analogy is a little broken. God wouldn’t be simply telling you not to. God is literally changing what you want to do, or any other number of “omnipotent” actions that are not possible by someone not omnipotent.\n
          \n
          The concept itself is incompatible with reality that operates like ours. Ours has clear, obvious, demonstrable, and repeatable rules. If those rules change, we *literally cannot* tell.\n
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          Omnipotence is quite literally a pointless point when there is literally NOTHING that demonstrates power beyond the existing rules. There is literally nothing that breaks causality in our reality. Our reality and existence is quite literally incompatible with omnipotence as described in the bible.
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          Yes, but such a universe is still fundamentally incompatible with Christian (and most other) religious teachings.\n
          \n
          There would be absolutely NO point in praying or asking for help in a universe with absolute free will, yet that is exactly what Christians (and many others) teach. It shows up all over in how they treat others and civil policy.\n
          \n
          It’s why they’re so pro punishment: You make a choice to do bad things, you had free will to choose not to, so you must be bad. It’s not *completely* broken logic that they use, but it is absolutely not a self-consistent set of rules.
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    The great irony is, the Prime Directive is to try and control the emotional overreaction of humans and is indeed often ignored by Star Trek for supposedly moral reasons… It is terribly ironic that it makes such a perfect analogy to how God, a supposedly far superior being, is described as acting in the Bible.\n
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    In Star Trek, it’s ignored to help people. In the Bible, it’s ignored because God is having a bad day and needs to lay down some punishment without being labeled a massive hypocrite because daddy do no wrong.
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